Fore Play - Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Waltrip, and Our First LPGA Performance

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

We competed in an LPGA Tour event and we’re here to breakdown our individual and team performances. Then we’re joined by Larry Fitzgerald (01:19:13), who challenges Frankie and all of Fore Play to pickle ball matches and talks trash to Riggs. Finally we’ve got NASCAR legend and all-around hilarious guy Michael Waltrip (01:49:10), who tells tales of getting into fights on the track with other drivers and opens our eyes to the beauty of motor racing.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butterknives because he always knives sitting across the green.

Rock 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. We're freaking it. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99.

And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that? It's ain't a hobby. Four players of my barstool sports. Brought to you by our best friends at Chevrolet.

Chevy, there are our trusted sponsor for the entire year. So big thanks to Chevy. Big show. We got two huge interviews. We got Larry Fitzgerald. We got Michael Walter. trip, who was a trip, an incredible interview with both of them. Larry Fitz is a golf nut. He's a pickleball nut. He loves to chirp and get after it. And you probably saw a bunch of videos on social of

what happened in the aftermath of that. So you get the interview that happened right before that. It led to us playing pickleball for like seven hours straight with Larry Fitz. And then Michael Waltrip, I mean, he literally ran over to a few other driver's cars during NASCAR crashes and punched them in the face. So he's amazing. He was a laugh out loud. funny interview. He's a little bit like Nick and KB kind of, where you don't know if he's serious or kidding or where the hell he's at half the time in an amazing way. So, so those two interviews are coming up. The second half of the show, the first half, we're obviously going to recap our performance. We played in a, we played essentially alongside LPGA players in the event

from the same T's at Lake Nona, which Brooke Henderson ended up winning. So we got a lot to break down. We got myself. We got Trent, Frankie, Dan. And we got a big week as well. We're flying out to San Diego in a couple days. And then Thursday show is going to be just myself, Randall Schambly and Gary McCord, who riff as best as they possibly can.

Gary McCord is amazing. He's got phenomenal stories. His filter is completely off. So I think people are going to go nuts for that one. So a big week for us. Gentlemen, happy Monday. The show's coming out on Tuesday, and I'm speaking to you on Monday.

I hope everyone's well. Doing great. doing fantastic. A really, really fun week in Orlando. It was a great week. I love that place. One of my favorite places on Earth. I got to say Orlando always delivers.

It's got the magic. It's got the pickleball. It's got the golf. Everything about Orlando, I'm a fan of. It's got Disney. It's got Disney is what it's got. That's what it's got. I mean, those other things are great,

but the reason you love it so much. I said it had the magic. Disney is located there. I said it had the magic. And we'll talk about a Disney trip real quick. But Larry Fitzgerald, man. That guy is a competitor. The guy had more.

tackles than dropped passes in his NFL career. Is that right? You look that up? Wow. What are the numbers on that? 2,335, I think, something around that number. T targets, 29 drops. Wow.

17 seasons, and he had 41 tackles. So fumble, he goes and chases that and the guy. Interception tackles the guy. Now, a dropped pass is to the discretion of the scorekeeper. and he says that the only person that made that ball drop is the wide receiver, right? The throw was there. No one tipped it, but it's 100% on the wide receiver, which if you watch any football game, that happens like three or four times a game.

Guys run in a slant route hits him right in the fucking hands. He didn't realize the ball was coming to him. He wasn't paying attention. Hits him with his 29 times that only happened. You throw that ball to Larry Fitzgerald, and if it doesn't get tipped, he's catching it. Yeah. Less than two drops a year for like 18 years. now what we're talking about guys is the greatest hand-eye coordinator of all time

like in any sport he has to be up there you're talking throwing a moving projectile at a man who is also moving at high speed and he's catching that ball every single time that's nuts that's fucking nuts so we played pickle ball the best and he obviously didn't play this year I don't think he's officially retired right he never had like a ceremony or anything yet no I think he likes it this way he's sort of just around you know there's some you have to file some sort of retirement paperwork and I don't believe he's done that. I don't think like Brett Gardner's retired it from the Yankees. There's like all these weird things.

But he's got a fat ass double cheeked up on a Sunday every Sunday. And it's fucking, I never seen anything like it. We played pickleball against this guy and we just like, you could tell that he is, he's still in that mode where he's looking to latch on to some sort of competitive edge and like murder somebody like in competition where like I was on the other side of the pickleball court with him and he saw something. And we were playing a doubles match. Who are we with?

We were with Georgia and Ryan O'Toole. We were with two LPGA players. Yeah, Georgia Hall and Ryan O'Toole. Georgia Hall won a major. She's like sick. I haven't realized like I went and looked at her stats. She's a fucking phenomenal golfer. She's a badass.

They are athletes too. I mean, it was great watching them play because they're, they're just like Larry. They're fiercely competitive. They're skilled. Yeah. And I think Georgia was like her second time ever played pickleball.

She was nuts. 10 times better than Iowa. I mean, she was fantastic. We did a doubles match. And at one point, it was like 8,8. And I looked over on the other side and it was me and Ryan versus Georgia and Larry Fitz. And I looked over and I'm like, we're coming.

And he took that extremely personal. And he looked at me. He goes, Frankie, he stopped me from serving. And he goes, I want you to look me in the eyes when I tell you this. You weren't born for this. And then he pointed at himself and he goes, you don't have this. And then I'm like, holy shit. And then as I'm hitting, I'd serve.

and he goes, come on, Frankie, get to the net, Frankie. Like, screaming at me to try and push him harder, hit a harder shot at him. Give him a shot that he has to move to. Is that all you got? And then at the end, he called me a fucking coward. Oh, when I tell you, when I tell you, Larry Fitzgerald calling you a coward made me as happy as I've been in a very long time, I watched that clip over and over and over again. He means it.

He, like, he says it in a way where it just, it just comes out. He doesn't think about calling you a coward. he just comes out of him he sees what you're doing he's like that over there is a coward and I'm going to call him one he goes you're a loser and you always will be a loser yep that's what he goes you're a soft loser and you will always be a loser I think he called me doughy like he was just really just going off he wasn't laughing he was not laughing when he said these things no I'll tell you what when you hang out with a guy like Larry fits and you play him in pickle ball or anything competitive it really makes me realize that I just never ever had a future in sports like when I played football I was I was I was I was a guy like larry fits and you play football I was I was I was was thinking about like, oh man, maybe I'll play like D3 and you know, if I get lucky, who knows. But then you play against somebody who's really, really competitive and incredibly skilled, incredibly talented, all of those things. And you realize that there's just a million of those guys at the higher level and they would, they'll just eat you alive. Like, like Frankie's saying, he's playing against Larry Fitzgerald, one of the greatest wide receivers in

the history of the national football league. And there's a reason. He's super competitive. He'll get in your head. And he's just incredibly skilled in his mind. He will not lose anything. No, right. So I say this about Brock Nelson all the time. I play him in ping pong. He won't let me win. I play him in Cornell. He won't let me win.

And if I even come close, he takes it personally and he was going to do everything he can to beat you. They will not accept losing. Larry Fitz is like, you're not getting another point. You will not get another point on me and I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that happens. We don't possess that. Our brains didn't come with that part of it. We don't have this igniter that's like, okay, it's go time. You can't lose now.

We just kind of like coward and lose. Think about all those guys that we have had the pleasure of hanging out with and playing competitively against. And they all look at a Michael Jordan. Think about how competitive he must be. If all of these Uber competitive people that we hang out with are then like that's the guy who's the most competitive. It's psychopathic. Yeah. He, uh, at one point, I think you guys were up like seven or eight to one in one game, Frankie.

Oh, yeah. And you were starting to chirp a little bit, but like you were still locked in, whatever. and I just watched him. No, not one millimeter of his person believed they weren't going to win that game the whole time. And they came back and won, you know, and that was when he had the clip calling you a coward. It was like a 10-9 game and they get the final point.

And I was watching him being like, they're going to lose. Like they're getting killed at 7, 8-1. Like they can't get a point to save their life. Like his partner at the time didn't have it. And he didn't even, like it didn't even cross his mind that they could possibly lose and they didn't lose. It's like, of course they weren't going to lose.

And then afterwards, the best part is like, he's not smiling. He's calling you a coward. Then afterwards, he's texting you. Like, let's play tomorrow. Frankie. Yeah. I got a text from my Fitz and I had to cross reference with like three different people to make sure it was his number.

I was like, is this the real? Fitzgerald asking me to go to like play pickleball tomorrow because like this guy's obsessed with this sport. As am I. I am a pickleball fucking fanatic now. I'm playing four days in a row. It's the best sport ever. But fun time in Orlando.

I can't wait to recap my Disney experience with our producer. I went with resident nerd Alex. I went with Brendan Jones. It was nice to see those guys. You know, enjoy a night where they weren't filming us playing golf poorly or editing a podcast. We got to just experience the magic of Disney. But yeah,

it was a fun week. I'm like sad to be home. It was an amazing week. A huge shout out to the Hilton Grand Vacations, LPGA tournament of champions to our guy Brian who sets everything up, gets us down there. I mean, Sando,

what's his little name on his, on his, what's the name he has on there? Sando, something. Does he call him Sando, I believe? Bush, Brian.

We'll find that out. But anyways, doesn't know fucking anything. The bills sucked, the life out of him. He works his ass off to get us down there every year and set it up. And it works. I mean,

I was there for the minimal amount of time, but we still got, what, five interviews. We got a video of us, play a pickleball of Larry Fitz, played in the golf tournament. Shout out to Frankie and to Dan,

who beat me. A photo finish from Frankie coming down the stretch. I will So obviously we play We each played our own Dan got 31 points Frankie got 21 I got 20

Trent got 9 I will admit that I was torn watching Frankie Because I did I did get a true Satisfaction when you stood up And striped one I was like

Fuck yeah Frankie But then I also was like It was close enough If you would have been able to get us In contention or get us in the money However that works I would have been

But once we were like T50 at one point clearly weren't going to make a charge. You got like 10 points on the front. You were right on the line. I knew there were some tough T shots on the back nine that you were playing with water all down the right. I was like, I wouldn't hate if Frankie came in at 19. So when I saw a few doubles up there, it was like, and I was like, should I be rooting?

And I was like, no, I'm rooting against him at this point. So I did not. I clearly did not want you to beat me. I knew that par five last hole was looming, which was not good for me. There's really no water. you were driving it pretty well. So yeah, credit to Frank, you beat me. I got to get better.

Yeah, it was fucking tough out there. I mean, we're going to get right into it. It's a stableford. And there's a lot of points available. Obviously, birdies were four. And like, you're really chasing to get all these points because you want to put up a good score. Danny did great. Like, you know, he didn't really start off as the way he wanted to.

I was so nervous on the first four holes. That's what I was going to get to, dude, is like, I don't know. We get all these tweets this week about like, how. how, oh, I thought you guys were a golf podcast. And when I watch you play at Ozarks, you shoot 79 and 78, like, what the fuck happened there? You shoot an 87 in a tournament when they actually keep your score. It's like, it's a little bit of a different atmosphere.

It's, it, I just couldn't. And shout out to Dr. Brett McCabe. His process really did help me because I would have shot 102 with how nervous I was. Like, I was able to kind of like try and block out the noise and just worry about like when I'm staying behind the ball. What am I going to do when I approach it? Where am I going to try and hit it? But I, I will admit, every.

single time I took that club back, there were thoughts of like, don't fucking miss the ball. Like, this is so, like that would be so embarrassing. There was a, I played on Sunday. There was a fucking a lot. And Trent played on Saturday. He probably saw the weekend crew. There was a lot of people there, man. When I was coming down 18, there was like 5,000 people. Like, it was, it was insane. It was the, the fairway was lined with people. And the green had a huge grandstand around the entire. I'm like, of course I'm going to fuck this up. You know what I mean? Like every shot and then it gets so quiet as you approach the ball. And I don't know.

I couldn't put because I was so nervous about how fast the greens were. It's just not a regular round of golf. You're not playing with Big Rob at Colonial Springs Country Club where you can choose 79 because no one gives a fuck. You're playing under a lot of scrutiny and your brain kind of like melts down. It's amazing how fast it flips too, right? Like you're warming up on the range and it feels like it basically in the other round because the range is just never going to be a nervous place and the music is playing and

it was casual in our caddy. I think we all have the same caddy. Everyone had Nick, right? Yep. Yeah, Nick was a really cool dude, and he was, you know, making us feel really comfortable. And I striped it on the range. I mean, I flushed it.

Every shot was pure. You get up to the first hole, and all of a sudden you start shaking, and I hit this nervy, like, chunk pole for iron into the left rough. And Nick and I are walking up, and we're like, where did that come from? I didn't hit a single shot like that on the range.

It's every single time. The gun starts. You're in competition. There's nowhere to hide. and you just don't feel comfortable. You never, that little shakiness in your hands never goes away. And for me, what happens is it's just a lot harder to make solid contact with the iron shots. And especially with how fast those greens were, if you weren't controlling your spin,

it was going to land on the green, it was going to run off and it was going to go into some area way below the greening your putting upper ridge to greens that were running, you know, 13 or 14. You're also kind of trying to stay out of the way, you know, because these women are playing for a lot of money. This is a serious tournament. So you're really trying not to impede. them in any way. You're being very deferential. If they want to go first, you let them go first. If they want to play, you let them play. You kind of stay out of the way. Um, so yeah, I was really,

really nervous. And I, you know, what you were saying earlier, Riggs about not really rooting for Frangie, I was nervous after I made those, those first four bogeys. I was like, am I going to lose to Riggs? That was definitely went through my heart. Totally. One thing that we all were not prepared for that we didn't know what was going to happen was the live scorecard online. Yeah. That was a a stunner. When Riggs started playing, you could see what he was making on each hole and the internet knew and everybody was tweeting about it. Everybody was putting up on Instagram. That is a whole new world for us because normally we play and then it's, you know, you see it as it goes, whatever. It's, it's never been a live scorecard in a professional tournament ever. And that adds to the pressure.

And at the end of the day, like, I see some of the tweets that comments to. At the end of day, it's like, how cool is it that we get to be the ones in there that they're talking about? Like that's like when your heart's racing like that, when you're like, what real life environment makes you that like nervous and uncomfortable? You know, maybe if you're a top sales guy and you got a huge pitch in front of your team, like you get legitimate butterflies and you get nervous. But like as an adult person that's graduated from playing real sports that like with a real team and you think it matters, like when in reality would you really be in a scenario where you feel so like alive that you're nervous, that you're like caring that you're. And that's it. And you go from your head spinning, you're racing, you're standing up. You can't your arms feel different.

Everything feels different. It's not like you don't have them, but like everything just feels different. And you stand over it. And you've hit horrible shots before. So that starts to creep in of like, well, when my body feels like this, I'm not going to be able to hit a good shot. I'm not going to be able to hit any shot. Like, what am I going to do here? And then you're racing.

I saw Monday Q had a great tweet. He said, I know most of you, I know almost all of you know a scratch can't beat an LPGA pro, but just for the few out there. Here is the celebrity leaderboard from this week's event and their handicap. Brooke Henderson won the event at minus 16. Also a reminder that celebs picked up at a double boge. I believe the yards we were playing were about $6,400 or so. Marty Fish, who's a plus three handicap who won.

He was eight under for the week. Then Mark Mulder, who's a scratch, was eight over. Chad Pfeiffer, who's a scratch, was 11 over. Jeremy Roanick, who's a scratch, was 13 over. Derek Lowe, who's a one, was 16 over. John Smolz, who we had on the show, who obviously had hip issues, is a plus 1.5 handicap and has won a bunch of events. He was 24 over.

So it's like, I get that you can definitely go out there and play well. And the most, you know, one of the biggest cliches in golf is there's golf and there's tournament golf. No one in this show outside of Dan who played well has any tournament golf experience really, like ever. And so being put inside there, like Trent said, where they're posting your score online, absolutely it's different and is it like oh your ball has to go in the hole that's different you guys aren't picking up i three putted once the whole day and i don't think i missed a single put from like six to like two feet the whole day so that the greens were so good that it was actually easier to make those i agree you just had just get it started and it's pretty much going to go in unless you miss your line on three put seven times dude i was i was nervous 16 hours leading up to it like when i went to bed i went to bed at 10 p.m i took some melton and i was like i want to get some good sleep because I want to be ready for the big day tomorrow. My body woke up at 4 a.m. and it would not go back to sleep.

I woke up at 4 and I just laid in bed until I had to go to the course at 7 and I was as nervous as I could possibly be. Like that is just not something that's going to happen when I'm like Frankie's saying, we go out to Colonial. I'm not going to wake up four hours before my tea time because my body refuses to sleep.

And then I'm neur like my heart rate on the first tee was probably like 180. Like it's just different. And they're not excuses. There's just reality of the situation. And aside for, from the nerves, it was, it was like the most fun thing of all time. Like I was still hitting really good shots.

I was hitting good drives. I was hitting wedges into the green like right around the stick and people going crazy. Like that is a simulation. We talk about how Barstall is one of the only places on earth that regular people are able to step into these arenas where it's, it's a fake life. You get to go do Rough and Rattie where you walk out with a theme song and all this music playing and you're about to fight in a in a primetime boxing match. Whoever gets to do that literally ever.

you get to fucking go out and play at a LPGA tour event and I'm standing over a T ball, which is a very familiar look. I'm looking at my ball down on the T and I'm like, oh, this is a familiar look. And then I slowly look up to the fairway and there is a huge fucking grandstand going down the entire 18th fairway and then a huge size is this Hilton Grand Vacation tournament of champions. And I'm looking out. I'm like, oh, it's about like 10,000 people in my view right now. And then you look back down and everything's dead silent.

you hit the ball. It goes right down the middle with a little draw. Everyone starts clapping. You pick up the tea and you walk in the fairway. That's a fucking dream. All right. So I three putt eight holes and I could have shot in 82 because my putting was off and I rimmed out a couple of times. I felt like I actually performed all right.

Like I think we all fucking did pretty decent. We didn't keep on ourselves. We hit the ball. We were hitting good shots into the green. We didn't kill anybody. Didn't kill anybody. What do people expect of us? I don't understand why we've become the podcast where everyone thinks that we have to be the best because

we talk about our handicaps like bro we just all I do is I play golf and I put it in that little app and whatever the number tells me it is it is what it is I was a 10 in the beginning of the season that's not believable it's insane it's also talking about it's can't believe you claim to be that hey can't believe that you're the one running I want to be a lower number I have to get more strokes to my buddies yeah I'll tell you what I'll tell you what doesn't help the introductions so I played with Anna Norquist and Clay Buckholtz, and I went third. And Anna gets introduced three-time major champion. She's a stud. She's incredible. Pipes it. And I play in Clay Buckholts, two-time World Series champion. He pipes it. And then it's the host of the Barstool Sports Four Play Golf

podcast, Trent, and no last name. And you just, you just step up there. And I luckily hit a, I hit my best drive of the day. But you still, the whole situation is, what's this guy going to do? He's the one we got to keep our eye on because we don't know how he's actually going to play. They didn't even say my name. Really? Yeah. Host of the barstool podcast for play.

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And I was kind of in bad spirits. And Nick, our caddy said going to 18, which was the ninth hole, it was a part of five. He's like, let's go make a birdie, man. Go make a birdie. Because my goal of the day was to get us to 50 points. And I was at 48. And I think a birdie was three points. So a par would have gotten us to 50 and a birdie would have gotten us to 51.

I had a really, really good T shot. I had my second shot short of the green. There were a bunch of people walking around. And I said to myself, let's give these people a show. Let's, let's give these people what they want. And I hit a chip from probably 25 yards to about seven feet. and I'm expecting a lot of applause and I get nothing. Absolutely nothing to the point where Celine Boutier,

number 12 golfer in the world, turns around to me and she's like, tough crowd, huh? Like, they didn't give me anything. And then I poured the putt, made the birdie, thank the crowd, tip the cap. Like, that's the stuff that you grow up wanting to do. That's the stuff that you grow up. It's like, imagine this put is for something and people are watching and you make it with your friends and you pretend to do like a little wave to the crowd.

This was a real wave to the crowd. I actually wave to the crowd and thank them for their applause. So just, yeah, it was one of those days where it's like you look around. I was playing with Taylor Twelman, who's a big soccer guy, I'm a big soccer guy. You want to talk about athletes. This guy went to Maryland on a baseball scholarship, quit baseball, played two years at Maryland, went to Germany, pro and soccer, then came back, was one of the best players in MLS history. Now he was a plus two handicap.

I don't know what he finished, but it sounds like he was worse than John Small, so plus 25 under. So yeah, they had a tough week for the handicap police. I think I'm like a plus point five right now. I shot 78, which I thought was very respectable given my start. given how nervous I was. It was just, I made an eagle, which was awesome. It was, I can't wait to come back next year. I just can't, I can't wait.

Hopefully they'll have us back because it is, there's just nothing like it. There's nothing like golf that matters. I play with Nana Courts-Madson. She's from Denmark. She was awesome. She was a little bit more standoffish where like I didn't want to talk to her for the beginning of the round because you got to remember they're playing for positioning. It's a real tournament.

They're there to make money. It's a, it's their job. job. So me being a fucking idiot, taking pictures of people and everyone asking me where Dave is, it's like it's just kind of taken away from her experience playing at this tournament. But then towards the end, when obviously she realized she wasn't in contention and like things were starting to loosen up. And I also play with Keira Dixon. So it was just like a, you know, good looking crew and then just an absolute fucking ogre of me just standing in there and like my pale body is, it was a little absurd, like just the combination between like what was happening in that group.

but then Nana at one point at the end of the round, I think it was like our 16th hole. She just shanked one on a par three, like cold shank into a tree and it came right back onto the T-box. And everyone just stood there in dead silence. No one knew how to react. And she just broke out like a maniacal laugh, like laughing so hard that like I'd never seen anyone laugh that hard.

And I was like, maybe she's going to start crying. Like I didn't know if it was going to turn to cry. And then we all are just walking to the green and dead silence and her catty. they're both these Danish, like very funny, like nice people. And the caddies just starts dying. And he's like, there's just something funny about the ball coming back to you. And I was just like, and everyone just had like the biggest left.

We're all like, oh, thank God we can joke about this. But it brings my point is like it was hard to like focus on like your own game when you were also a little bit nervous about what was going on around you on in your own group. Like like I wasn't even focusing on putts half the time when I was like worrying about where I was standing and like who goes next. Like everything in the game of golf that I'm not used to was so magnified. Like, all right, who's further away? Like, I always just fucking, my buddy robs in this. I'm just going to go. Like, I understand the etiquette.

But this was like magnified times a billion. Dude, like sometimes like if you would go tap in a ball, like I was marking it. Like I didn't know what the fuck the right thing was. Like if she had to go, I had to go. So yeah, it was, you were walking on eggshells a little bit. But you know what the most stressful part of the day for me was. I mean, there were a lot playing out there. You're going to say.

Yeah, you know what you're going to say. Because I fuck mine. signing the scorecard. Oh, big time. Big time. Dude, I have never done that. And Clay has played in this four times. Anna's obviously a pro, literally.

So they all know what to do. They're walking over there. And I'm just following them. I'm a lost puppy. We just tapped in on 18 and I'm ready to just, you know, go lay down because I'm so relieved that it's over, although I had a good time. And then you have to go in the scoring tent and they're reading off numbers. They're signing things.

I didn't know what to do. And luckily, they helped me. but all I could think about was I'm going to do something wrong here and she is going to get DQed and that is going to be. Why did they put us in charge of getting the LPGA? I had to do Nana's also. I'm like, are you guys dumb? I had Taylor's.

Yeah. See, I had Ryan's and luckily Ryan O'Too is the coolest person out there. She's fucking awesome. Like she during our round even, there are times like I'd be reading a put and I'd be away. And she would just be like, rigs, I'm going to go. I'd be like, awesome, go. Like just pretend like I'm not here. And she would literally just step up, hit it and like giggle.

and playing in this fucking LPGA tour round. And she played great. She hit it well. But then after like the fourth hole, I said to her, I just go, I got to be honest to you. The most nerve-racking part of my entire day is I got this scorecard in my hand that has your fucking name on it. And I'm so nervous that I'm just going to write something down wrong and get you disqualified from the tournament, even though you didn't do anything wrong.

So like just, I'm watching you like a hawk out of everything she did. I'm like, that was four. That was definitely four. But then, you know how it is like you don't want to ask somebody how many they had because you don't want to be in their kitchen all day. So you're every hole, I'm not going to be like, that was four, right? That was like I.

So you're like watching. And then afterwards when they go through the whole thing again, I'm like, if, if mine's wrong, I don't care. Like we, it's nothing about me and my person in this event matters. You're the pro just like whatever you want. There was one hole where like she made a, uh, Larry, Larry made a birdie and she made a par. And we walk up the tea and she's like, Larry, you got the honor. Go ahead.

And he was like, oh, no, we're not taking the honor. from you all day. You'd pretend like we're not here. And she was like, okay, and she just couldn't have cared last. So luckily, she was fucking awesome and just did not care at all. And she also,

like very early on established that like a lot of the times, because, you know, when you start putting and everyone's on the green, you have the right to finish. Like that's, you know, per the rules, whatever. And so she basically just did that pretty much the whole time. And I was like, look, you,

if you need to finish and you're going to be in my line or anything, again, pretend like I don't exist. and just do your thing. And so she was cool and just took over that way the whole time. But Trent, I knew you were going to say that because the minute that I got that card and I saw that official tag on it that said Ryan O2, I was like, I'm going to go down in history as getting this girl disqualified from the tournament. I know I am. I can just picture myself getting on my flight that night and then buying the Wi-Fi once I'm in the air and seeing a bunch of messages and Twitter going crazy.

Like, can you believe that Barstool Trent got a three-time major champion DQed from this event? And I, you know, like I said, I was just a puppy dog and they were like, do this, do that. And I did it. And we got out of there and it seems like everything was okay. But that was by far the most stressful part of the route. We started on the 10th hole. So I obviously accidentally just wrote all the scores on the front. Obviously. And like seven holes in.

I'm like, hmm, I don't think she doubled seven. I'm like, why is it say she made a five on this part three? And our caddy, Nick was like, dude, you're just on the wrong side of the scorecard. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? So then like you have to erase it. And obviously all the score she ended up making the front didn't really match up with the numbers I was writing. So like you just saw all these crazy things. And she looked at my scorecard at the end.

She's like, what is this? I'm like, I just fucked up the whole thing. At one point, I looked up at like the scoring table thing and I like changed one of the scores to the correct one. I just had I was like a fucking. I knew I like didn't dude. I almost had the wrong one. And then finally I'm like, wait, no, no. I'm like no.

She definitely had a four on that one. Like I, because I had it on the wrong side, dude. I was started on the back and then the front. We got it all figured out before we put. I will say the main concern kind of like we're saying is just staying out of their way because it is their job and they want to do their best and you don't want to screw that up in any way. But Anna was great. Like she was the same as as Ryan was like where it was, you know, just put it out, do whatever you want. Just she never like gave that.

There was no attitude on any part from anybody. It was just, yeah, we're out here playing. But your main, like your main concern should be playing well. But in a tournament like that, the main concern actually is don't fuck up the person who's trying to make money. out here. Dan, you asked Taylor Twillman plus two handicap again. I think the course playing about 6,400 yards. He was 25 over par

through four rounds of golf with automatic doubles. He shot 79, 77, 77, 80. He finished 9. He beat me by 1 when we played, huh? All right, Taylor. He beat, yeah, he finished 9th, sorry, Eagle. Or he finished 11th, I believe, in the tournament. And so, yeah, it's just fucking hard out there.

I will say, credit to us. Larry Fitz is on the show. We talked about how competitive he is. We beat Larry Fitzgerald. He had 76 points. Forward Played Podcasts had 81. We tied with Kira Dixon, who's just an angel. She's awesome. Shout to Kira Dixon.

Way better than I. I mean, she's Miss America. She's got all that going for her. She fucking hits the shit out of the golf ball. I mean. Pretty good, right? Through our front nine, she was just waxing my ass. Like, I couldn't catch her in points.

Like every whole, every single. Well, I did have an itchy butt. And she said, thank you for not telling her that. Yeah. I mean, you can't. I'm glad you, you didn't tell anybody out there, did you, right? I just told the camera to like 200,000 people, but I, but yeah, you can't be, I'd rather you tell 200,000 people you're with.

We can't have, you know, officials coming out being like, we got Frankie talking about and I don't know where it came out of, like, I didn't take a poop that morning. Like, I didn't, I definitely didn't, like, fart out there. Like, I don't know what happened, but it was a very debilitating. Probably just moisture. It was a debilitating itchy butthole. And I know Dude White's tweeted I mean that they are a friend of the podcast. They've been a sponsor of the classic for years in the pod.

Listen, I was nervous. I forgot about the dude wipes. I was out there in front of all these people. I didn't know what to do. It hit me on the 10th hole. I was about to hit the T-shot. I'm like, oh, man, this is tough to be dealing with this out here. So I ended up, you know, powering through it.

But one last shout out to Caddy Nick, who at one point, I'm walking up to the T-box on like our fifth hole and I'm under my breath. We're walking. He's in front of me. I'm behind him. And I go, man, I could really go for one of those uncrust. that Trent had yesterday. And mid-stride, he takes one out of his bib and flips it over his shoulder and I just catch it. I'm talking within a second. The next step he took after I said the word on Crestable, he went boom, and it was in my hand. And I just couldn't believe that. That guy is a professional caddy. He's on the LBGA tour now. He's got a new girl that he's going to be carrying his bag for. I'm excited for him. Do you say his meeting went well? He said it went very well. They had dinner. He met her manager. She wanted to come out and watch him caddy for me. me and she's like I want to see my new guy like caddying he's like not a reflection of his

cadding skills yeah stay home today because we didn't make a put all day and he's like dude he's like dude I don't know if it's like my reads I'm like it's not your reads man I just don't know what five feet is dude I was I was thinking it's very funny how even in this environment we just stay true to our games like yeah you're striping it out there and you just couldn't quite get the ball in the hole I'm hitting it all over the planet and you and I ended up like within a point. It's just, our games are just our games.

Like you are, like Larry said, you just are who you thought. I thought Trent of all people. I mean, Dan, you got the most points. But I think Trent,

like, probably delivered the most. Dude, when you came out with like a couple bogeys and then a par and you had like five points through five holes or something, I was like, Trent's going to beat me and he's fucking. Like,

you were, you were hitting it dead straight. Dude, after making a bogey on the first hole was as big as it gets. Because I was talking the couple days leading up, like I'm going to hand this off to Frankie after scoring three points. And then I got five hours of sleep. I've been up since 4 a.m.

I'm as nervous as I've ever been on this first T. Like anything could happen. Like you don't even, you, I could, you know, I could just double all of them. We had that in what was the name, Michael Ray. He doubled every single hole out of two, except for two. For the whole week, he had incredible. His ball 70 times out of 72 points. He put up three.

He parted his 71st hole. He had a be at a bar on 17. So it is one of those things like where you just, I bogeed the first toll and I was like all right I can actually play out here now I doubled a lot of the holes a couple of them were pickups where it would have been much more than a double like that's just how the tournament works but yeah score in nine points and not killing anybody having a good time talking to clay buckholz talking to anna like we had it was a I was a normal person out there which is what I was looking for yeah yeah I thought that was very impressive I thought like

frankie made the best but we had a pretty fucking good showing overall wasn't our best golf everybody I think wishes they could do it again or get out there. Like if you got four rounds in like all the other celebrities. Yeah. Practice round would have been nice too. Yeah. And we never seen the court, whatever.

But like if you put, you know, if you could probably put one or two good rounds up out of four to like showcase that you can really do it. But like overall, dude, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. Practice rounds, play them better. Dude, we just, we all, we got one round. We did the baton thing like we said we're going to.

I think it was a really fun format. It was. It was, we had a good time. Each of us played well in different ways. And we're going to play again next year. We're going to try to beat our spot. I don't know where we end up finishing up on the leaderboard. 40th, I think.

T40th. So we're going to try to beat that next year. We're just going to keep rolling. We'll be better. We'll play more leading up. I didn't play golf. We were in New York. I didn't play golf for a month and a half before we went.

We're going to play better. Yeah, but like the competitive juices get into you. Once you out there, you want to play better. I left three birdie puts short within the heart of the fucking thing. And then like missed that coming. Like I, I sit back. in bed last night, I'm like, I could have fucking played so much better. And you want that.

You want to play better. The best part is everybody thinks that. Right. You want to do more. Like, you're just like, I fucking wish I could do it again. And so that's what I'm most looking forward to next year. Like, I don't want to just be like, like, I want to play better. Like, I'm like, that was a fucking simulation and you want to do it again.

Like, you want to live that dream again. As soon as I get home, I went to the range three days in row. I was like, I want to play better. I'm going to be better. Let's go. My biggest takeaway. it's going to sound like an ad because we're tailor-made athletes. I put my stealth two in the bag, the driver, for the first time,

and I drove the ball incredibly. Now, people will probably bring up the ninth hole, which was the 18th hole, where I just completely healed one into the water. It would have hit someone if they were standing next to me. But every other drive, like that thing is a weapon. I don't know why it's different. I don't know what's different about it. But when I look down and I swing it, the stealth two is just an incredible improvement.

And I think for the breaking 90 going forward, that's going to be the difference. And it's going to help us get to the actual 89 because that thing was incredible. Shout out to Brooke Henderson, who went wire to wire with this new stealth 2 plus and a full bag of tailor made equipment. She was, I think, the newest, most recent announced tailor made athlete and went out there with the stealth 2 plus and just ripped that course apart and won the tournament. I couldn't agree with you more, Trent Daddy. We were all texted about it, not even going public with this. we were just texting about like the stealth too that thing is a weapon that thing is a problem it looks so good that mere finish on the top that extra um i know they're calling it fargiveness that

extra um forgivability that it has is amazing like the misses just go pretty fucking straight i feel like yeah i feel like they don't curve offline i hit a bunch of pushes that held their line and a bunch of pulls that really held their line which is which is what you want to see i play with clay buckles like I said, and he pumps the ball off the T. And the first hole where I was really nervous, our balls literally in the fairway ended up right next to each other. And I was like, that was like a real, I hit like a real drive.

Normally they, you know, everybody knows. They don't go. Might don't go as far as everybody else's, but I had so much adrenaline and I hit the stealth too so well that I ended up right next to Clay Buckholtz. And I was like, this thing,

this thing's staying in the bag forever, maybe. Merchandise. I love merchandise. I love merchandise. I haven't walked into a pro shop maybe in my life and not. just scoured around, bought a few things because you just love having gear merch. It's huge for us.

It allows us to keep the lights on, as Dave's always said, allows us to be us, do whatever we would like to do. So we put a lot of time and effort into making the best merchandise that we can. I got this Peter Milar, lava wash hoodie on. I've got the unreal joggers on right now. The best pants in the world. You see how fucking co- Best pants in the world. Telling you guys, at this point, you know, Black Friday's over. Christmas pushes over. At this point, we're just letting you know what the best stuff is. Obviously, we're very appreciative during those times. But we end up pushing everything because we have so much stuff to give out. We want everyone to get everything. But now in these days when like all the holiday season is over, we're really just genuinely telling you what our favorite stuff is. And I swear to God, I think the sweat, the pants are my favorite things I've ever, ever worn. Ever. They're amazing. Four different colors. I got the black, the blue, the gray and then the Trent khakis.

Oh, look that. Me too. They're so comfortable. Ain't no hobby. There's a whole line of that. We've got Travis Matthew hats. This one I wear it so much. It's got sweat right through the middle of it, but classics.

We're working with the best bands. The best brands. The breast bands. We're working with the best brands. We've got Travis Matthew. We've got Peter Millar. We've got Unreal. It's just the list goes on and on.

And even our Barstool Sports branded collared shirts right now. the polos are fucking phenomenal quality. When I put those on, man, I'm like, it's hard for me to pick another one out of my closet. I don't know what they did. I don't know who's making those. It says Barstle sports on the tag. I don't know who's making them. They're definitely a cheaper.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, is that like, is Frank the tank in the office? Like sewing these fucking doggy shirts together. I don't know. But all I know is is that they're really high quality. Check those out because they're definitely more affordable than the higher priced ones and they're elite quality. So go to store.barshalsports.com.

We obviously prefer if you go to the golf, you go to the foreplay tab, check out a bunch of our options. But go anywhere. Go check out that entire website. All the other brands work just as hard as we do. Our merch team is the best of the business. Allison, Pilar, Alex, Quinn, everybody over there, they just absolutely crush it. They work really hard. We're going to have merch in a couple big tournaments this year at the PGA tour.

We're going to have merchandise in the tent at the waste management. uh, Phoenix open. We're going to have merchandise in the tent at TBC Sawgrass. So a little tease. We're going to talk more about that. Jeez. Those items are going to be available at that in there on our website as well. So I want people to keep there.

I mean, that tournament's coming up. We got to get it out there. I know. That's like breaking. I mean, that's breaking news. I told a couple of people that this weekend when we were in Florida and they like took a step back.

And like, what the fuck do you mean? You guys are selling merchandise at waste management in the tent with the waste management logo. I'm like, 16 whole. WM logo with the Barstool Golf logo all on the same merchandise that our team, those four folks that I just mentioned in Coots with this team here,

worked incredibly hard going through mocks, getting the coolest fucking items that we possibly could. All the stuff that we like to get in the pro shop, like hoodies, really cool polos, like the stuff that when we go into a tournament, we're like, why don't they have hoodies with like just the clean logo on the chest?

I want to show people that I went to the waste management. Why don't they ever have that? We did that. and it's collaborative with our logo on it also. We've got polos. I can't believe we're announcing this right now. I think it's the biggest step that we've taken as a podcast ever that we're like, I mean,

in that sector for sure. I mean, we've obviously done the content side. We've taken huge things. We walk with Tiger Woods. This is business from talking. Business though, bro. We're in the tent at a PGA tour event,

the biggest one of the year probably for like our demographic. Come on, man. Come on, bro. Point is merchandise, stored uparshalsports.com, go check out a bunch and then keep your eyes and ears peeled because we got big stuff coming. We're going to show you these designs. We're going to show you what's in the tent. We're going to have them on the website so you can get it. Players' championship, waste management. There's even a little something coming up in the fall that we're going to talk about.

But anyways, stored uparshaltsports.com. Go support us. Go get some merchandise. All right. A couple more things to get to get to. I'm going to first give a big shout out to my guys at Warrior hockey. So last night I got back on the ice, laced them back up again. These guys, they reached out to me, asked me to come skate whenever I'm in town. They have a standing ice time on Sunday nights. These are veterans who run this program, Warrior Hockey, and they run it to essentially provide for any veterans that want to get involved an opportunity to get in with a group, camaraderie, rehabilitation, as we all know and probably don't know well enough. Like veterans, when they come back from deployment, from service, years and years of service, they, a lot of them don't know what to do, right?

Like, they've got this camaraderie. They've got this group. They're boys, their girls, their crew that they're with for years and years. They go through unbelievable stuff together. And then when they get out, they're just civilians. And that's really, really, really difficult. Warrior hockey serves as a program, an opportunity for them to go skate. They do other events.

They go to a couple tournaments a couple times a year. My guy Colin invited me. I went and skated with him last night and then we got a couple beers afterwards. Just like literally our nation's finest, these guys. And one of them's a chef. Another guy works for Uber. Another guy's got a black car company. And they're just like, they're just, it's hard to process that they're just normal, great,

principled people like us who happen to have decided like, oh, I'm just going to literally risk my entire life. so that Riggs and Frankie and Dan and Trent can go fuck around in an LPGA event and like be a little bit upset that they shot 88, not 82. And it's like it was just very humbling. It was a it was a little bit of perspective pie hanging out with them. So again, our nation's finest warrior hockey. Go check them out if you can. I'm going to skate with them every week if I can.

And they're just elite, elite folks. I want to give a big shout to those guys for having me skating last night. It was a blast. And I'm sure you'll hear and see a lot more because they're fantastic guys. and I imagine we'll form some pretty good friendships and hang out. How did it feel to get back on the ice? Great. It felt good.

I love skating. I mean, I know me and Frankie whenever we've done a couple of the chicklets cups, like we go on this big ranch just about how great it is. And we're doing it with pickleball a little bit. It's like anytime we can find ways to work out that aren't just going to work out for workout sake, aka just going to a gym, it's insane how good it feels. I feel like I need to pick up like mountain biking.

I'm trying to pick up pickleball, trying to skate more. Like anything that will actually get me to exercise without just going to a gym like a fucking hamster. It's sitting on a bike. I can't do that. I despise to do that. Skating is it's, it's really weird when you get there for somebody like me because it was, I mean, hockey was my entire life for 20 years, just my entire life.

And now it's been 15 or 10 or 15 or so where it's like I've skated once in three years since the beginning of COVID. And then you get back out there and it's like, dude, when you're gliding around the ice, there's something spiritual by it. I think about Mighty Ducks. I think it's Mighty Ducks too when he's out there in the morning, just skating around.

And it's this like romantic scene. That's like you become that person the second you get on the ice and you start just gliding around. It's really, really, really hard to then process that like you're not skating every day. And my first instinct was like, I need to find a team and skate seven days a week because you just miss it a lot. You do worry that you're going to get hurt. That's like the big.

because you you you instinctually do stuff that you just can't physically do anymore like you try to chase down a puck or you try to like pivot one way real quick and like your your legs are not even close to responding the way that your brain is used to them responding and you're like I could just ruin my knee and be fucking dead for six months so that's the one fear but it felt great felt great to get out there and skate around a little bit yeah we're getting more active as a podcast I mean Brendan and I we were saying like we're bringing our paddles everywhere we go now we're going to just start doing and more things. Like, it felt so good to just not do golf, dinner hotel, where you just feel like a piece of shit, like sitting in your hotel, eating fucking lava cakes, watching TV. Like, we were under the lights,

70 degree weather, playing for two hours, take a quick shower, get to the airport. Like, it felt like your heart's moving. You're sweating. You're active.

Your legs felt good. Like, we literally walked, I mean, Brendan walked four straight days with us, filming every single shot. He played pickleball for three hours with us with Larry Fitch. Gerald. We walk all of Disney, three different parks in one night. And then the next day,

walks another fucking round with me and then played pickleball because I forced him to right before we end up going on the airport. And he's just like, I feel great, man. He's like, he's like, this is the best trip that I've felt ever because we always just do nothing. Like we just golf and then we just sit there and we do nothing. This is, it's a nice, hopefully we can keep this. It's not like a New Year's resolution, but it's nice that we're doing this new way of thinking on these trips. Because we're active to just keep moving. You got to keep moving. I think Larry Fitzgerald inspired us, honestly.

Like he, and people are going to see in the interview, the way he talks, where he gets you going. Like, dude, he is on, and tuned athlete. We went on and on about it.

But we're talking about it with him afterwards. He doesn't drink alcohol like ever. He plays pickleball, like three hours a day with his kids. He's got a bunch of business ventures. He's on the phone all day. He plays golf. Like,

he's just active. And that's just how you stay alive. Like, I think, like, literally that's how you just, keep your body active and alive and moving and burning. And like, that's just how you stay alive,

I think. And so it is good. Pickleball is interesting in that you can play a bunch like in 20 minutes or whatever and you're dead. And then you sit around for 10 minutes and you can do it again and you do that again and over and over again. It's not, it's very strange to me. It's not like if you play two matches, then you've got to just go home because you're so tired.

For whatever reason, your body bounces back pretty quickly. And you can just play for like, seven hours like Larry Fitzschild does it's pretty incredible no it's a great sport uh real quick before we get into anything i know we got to get to john round the guy's an absolute problem on the golf course but disney shout to jordan edwards our guy he's out you got that roofing company down in florida he played in the l pga events as well he was an amateur he actually did pretty well i can't talk enough about this fucking guy and his disney hookup he is like that you know he's got the whole

club thing remember last year we talked about this with the club 33 you can get these different areas and people can't believe that he's a member at this thing he's like you know we're kind of met like i think brenden saw him on the drive range he's like you know frankie was thinking about going to disney whatever and he doesn't even let you finish the sentence where he's just like i'm going to send you the tickets and you're going to have the best day of your life he like looks you in the eyes like you're going to have the best thing in your life tomorrow and you're just like all right i can't fucking wait i just can't i can't thank him enough for being a part of my life Jordan that word because we we got to do everything man we were in Hollywood studios then we were in

Epcot walking around the world Brendan's eat drinking this like Coca-Cola mixed with bourbon thing in Germany and then we're drinking sake in Japan and then you're going over to Canada and there's all the it's the cool you guys would love Epcot it doesn't have the magic but it's basically it's the world's best street fair every 10 feet you walk is a new country and you have all this new architecture and all the music and then all the food and restaurants and bars and then you walk another 10 feet and you're in a whole new part of the world all you hear is that music and that it's nuts and you can just get completely shit-faced there's no children around everything's very more catered to the adults and the rides are awesome gardens the galaxy

mission to mars it's fucking sick um so yeah that was awesome and then we ended our night at the fucking at the magic kingdom man we went and saw that bitch of a castle and we went on splash Mountain, which is closing forever today. Last ride ever. And we got to go on with these fast passes. We went down. We got our picture taking on the Splash Mountain. It's done.

It's gone forever. It's the last ride. Most iconic ride at Disney, Splash Mountain. The whole ride with the fucking bears inside. Gone, done. We got to do it the last day. So shout out to Jordan Edwards.

Dude, Brendan and Alex were like making fun of me the old day being like, whatever. They're like, you love this too much. We got out of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. And as we're walking out, it's dark out. We're walking out.

We look up. We just had an awesome experience on this ride. We're all smiling. And then there's fireworks over our head. And like you can see him coming through the trees and right over our head. And I looked at Alex. I'm like, this place has the juice.

And he's like, I see it now. It's like someone created the coolest night ever. And you just get to do that. You know what I mean? You just get to do that. Like everything's lit up. I don't know.

I fucking love Disney. I'm a Disney Intel. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, these guys went after my round on Saturday. And as soon as I finished, as soon as I got through the hairwing process of signing the scorecards, Alex and Brendan were like, we're getting texts from Crazy Frankie being like, where are you guys? Why aren't you back at the hotel? We need as much time at Disney as we can. And we, so we get in the car, we drive back to the hotel.

I heard you had lunch first, which is fucking insane. We did have lunch. I wasn't sure if they were going to tell you or not. I did. I didn't eat. And then I hadn't eaten all day. Yeah. I had played like 10 minutes later.

They had food 10 minutes later wherever you're going to go. All right. And then so we drove back to the hotel after we ate lunch. And Frankie is, I thought he's going to be in the lobby. He's standing in the valet area just waiting with his arm, with his hands on his hips, like, when are we going to give this car headed towards Disney? So he is, he's very into it. And we met Paris Hilton, which was cool.

We did meet Paris Hilton. She was at the hotel. She has a person that gets a full time salary to hold a light for her and like, and a fan. Like so when someone wants to take a selfie, or a picture, she has perfect lighting. So the guy was actually physically holding a light. Of course she looks.

I don't know what that's her business. Right. I don't know what Paris Hilton means to you guys, but I was legitimately starstruck. I mean, I mean, my whole time growing up, it's like Parasilton, Paraselton, Paraselton.

And then, yeah, and then, you know, she's got this new career as a DJ, and she's kind of over the place. But I saw her in the lobby and I was legitimately starstruck. My brother, uh, who was nine years older than me, gave me one night in Paris for my 10th birthday.

Well, so it means she means quite a lot to me. What the fuck is one night in Paris? We don't have to, we don't have to go into detail about it. But is that the porno? That's the porno that she is. Oh, yeah. I didn't know how to fucking. I didn't know it had a title.

Oh, yeah. What are we talking about? Most definitely does. I didn't know that either. I thought we were just talking about the video of her blowing that guy. I want to be clear. I was not talking. Have I seen the video.

When I was saying that she was talking to my life. Of course. I was. I was saying like she was just, she's a pop culture figure. She is like as much in the pop culture as someone can be. So when Frankie was out front and he was like, oh, by the way, I just got a picture of Parisilton. I couldn't have got my seatbelt off fast enough. Like I just wanted a picture with it.

She's a megastar. Paraseltz. She's a mega star. I can't believe you got lunch. Dude, I can't believe it has a title. I didn't know it has a title. Oh, it's very, very famous title. I remember the, I remember the, I had the physical DVD and I remember exactly what drawer was in.

I'd hide for my parents. Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought it was jazz. She thought it was like a open. It's a little sticky. Okay.

We're going to transition from that. And I think Dan has been doing his big J stuff this morning. I have been doing my Big J stuff this morning. We got some details on TGL, right, which is the Tomorrow Sports League, the one that's going to be like kind of simulator. So they've signed this. This is Tiger and Rory. This is Tiger and Rory's thing, right?

That JT and ROM also committed to. Today, someone else reported. We don't talk about other people on that. their reporting reported that Adam Scott was was joining and then I was able to confirm that Colin Morikawa so they got six guys we know what this league is going to look like it's going to be 18 players six teams of three there's going to be uh matches that all take place who reported the other way I can't we can't be those guys that sports illustrator who gives them funny we got yeah nobody cares we get I mean what are we're going to not say names of who gets reported that

out of people actually care who reports it like I didn't care like I don't care who it comes from ever Do you guys care about who it comes from? You care. You love John Heyman. When did I say I love John Heyman? You were like, well, whenever when the Aaron Judge thing went down and I was saying like, oh, I think he's been wrong in the past. You were like, no, no, no, John Heyman's the guy. I said, I don't think he's ever fucked up.

I think you guys were like recency bias. I was like, I don't think he's ever like fucked up his career like he did for the judge thing because you guys were like, oh, he always fucks up. I was like, I don't really think he's ever fucked up. But I don't like get my, I don't think I like get my rocks off from like who were reports shit. I just know, but I do think it matters that people can build the reputation of being the person. Like I think that matters. Like when Schfter, like when they report something, that's like, fucking God's word that you know what I'm saying. But I don't like, um, I don't like have an allegiance to Schaefter over like fucking Rappaport. No, but what I'm saying is like if, if, if I tweeted something

about football news like that once you get to that level, but Shepter does why does like after after because he's reported it right so many times. Right. Yeah. I think that builds up. Woj, shams, Rappaport, all those guys. Yeah, those guys, I agree with you, Frankie, that I, at the, once it happens, I don't care. But once I, when I see it, it matters.

Yeah. Who it is? Who, who reported the other one? Sports Illustrated? Okay. Yeah. No, you're fine. No, you're fine.

Also, I don't think when it's an entity, it matters. Sorry, Dan. Like, if it's fucking just Sports Illustrated or ESPN report, who gives a fuck? But I do think of it's like, this. person who's fucking working like there's that personal connection to it it's like fuck yeah that guy's in there he's got the connect for my perspective it's like it's a it's a game that you want to win it's like you're a competition and you want to be the best guy um so they're all these they're going to build this arena a special arena in palm beach there's going to be 15 regular season matches i don't

know i guessing this arena is going to be some combination of of launch monitors so like a trackman and then have you guys seen those putt swing uh yeah or full full swing and then have you seen those putting putting, putting greens that move that some of these guys have in their house. Yeah, put view. So I think there's going to be some combination where they're going to be hitting shots into the simulator and then there's going to be a putting situation. So there's going to be 15 matches that is obviously one three men team against another. There's going to be semi-finals and finals. 18 players. It's going to be on Monday nights starting in January 2024. So this is another way that the PJ tour, in addition to the player impact program,

it's another perk. It's another perk of staying on the PJ tour. The tour is part of this? The tour is absolutely part of this. The tour, PJ Tour, Tomorrow Sports, our partners in this. So Adam Scott was always one of the guys who seemed like a natural target for Lib. He's from Australia. Same as Greg Norman. He's 40 years old. He's 40 years old. Whatever does want to play that much. I guess he's decided that this kind of perk, handsome, you know, getting into the player impact program, getting to participate in TGL, which is, you know, more money is another reason for these guys to stay. So it's something that the PJ Tour is doing to keep these guys in the fold. And Adam Scott appears to be staying on the PGA tour. So it's going to be fun. I think people,

the reaction is people are excited for this. It is like, you know, Liv is kind of halfway between the like traditional golf tournament of 72 whole stroke play and then completely gamified, you know, kind of in the middle. The PJ Tour now has the 72 old stroke play bands and they have this thing on the complete other side, which is very much for television.

It's not trying to be real golf. So they kind of have both their bases covered. And I think people are excited to watch these guys kind of talk trash on Monday nights. I want to see the stadium. I want to see the stadium. this fucking stadium. My sources are saying, my sources are saying that they're actually going to try and use real grass for the putt view. It's going to be the first time ever that they can maneuver real grass. And that's coming out of the Michigan state agronomy sector of Michigan state, which is the powerhouse,

which is just the powerhouse of all these superintendents. See now if you tweeted that, I'd be like, I don't trust that. But I do because I know you. Totally. Right. Right. But I'm saying it wouldn't matter if it came from me, like it wouldn't matter if it came from Adam Schafter or Ian Rapport. If you got that information, you wouldn't be like an allegiance to one or the other. It's a, uh, true.

That just reminded me and, and don't look up when they're in the Oval Office and they're giving them the update on the asteroids, going to take out the earth. And, uh, Jonah Hill's like, where, where'd you guys say you study astronomy?

And they're like, Michigan State. And he's like, ah, okay. All right. We'll get our people on it. We'll get our people on it.

We'll get up. But yeah, no, they, they can figure out how to fucking maneuver like real soil and grass. I mean, I don't know how like much of a difference that makes for the visuals. of just watching it on TV, but for the players, how cool would that be?

Well, I think that's what's cool about it being in one stadium as opposed to, like, moving around and they're basically just going to install simulators to have a stadium that the whole purpose is for this event and is designed for this event. And they still have a whole year to put it together. I think it could be kind of mind-blowing what they produce. Hopefully it translates to watching on TV, though. Like, does, like, will all that work to like figure out how to move grass so that like it's a left-to-right put and then it's a right-to-left put matter to me watching it on TV as opposed to it just being

fake turrets? I don't know. Like, you know what I mean? There might be, might be like the most game changing technology in golf history and like we're going to see all these promotions for it. And like,

I should be like, well, that could have just been, that could have just been fake and who are the, who are the commentators going to be? I don't know. That I don't know. That's very important.

They should have no commentators. Just be fucking mic up. You say no commentators? Just mic them all up. I want to hear raw shit. And, wait, this is going to be on like network television or is this going to be on?

Yeah, it's going to be two hour broadcast windows too, which is, also really nice. So they're going to be all pre-recorded. So, you know, I think it's going to be like the greatest hits. I don't think it's going to be like, you know, the weird dead zone where you watch one of these matches. And for like an hour, it's not really fun to watch because they're playing bad or whatever. They're quiet. I think they're going to make it into this like jam-packed thing. Do you guys fear that this is going to turn into like that that putting show that like Rob Briggle like did

or like, or like American Ninja Warrior or something where it's going to be like. American Ninja Warrior would be pretty dope. Super. Yeah, I'm just saying like super over. And you just, yeah, they should. They should. Like, just like super overproduced and like not like like, you know, if it's like pre-recorded, like you're not going to get those. I mean, I'm sure they'll put them in, but like, I don't know. I just fear like this like late night network TV type. I'm picturing like those lights like like the spotlights behind them. And it's all dark and they walk out and slow motion.

You're like, I don't know if golfer should be doing this. Yeah. Look, I'm, I'm excited to test and watch. dip in to this, but do I think it's going to be overall amazing? No, of course not. It's fucking simulator golf. Why would it be that? Yeah.

You know? Wait, I actually think it might be live. So that might have been premature on the pre-recorded thing. So you might get some, yeah, that would be better, I think, right?

Live is for sure better. And these guys are all shit talkers. You know, Tiger Woods, I mean, you get these guys out there with live mics and who knows what's going to be said. I want to hear beeps. I want to hear them like saying real stuff.

I want real competition. That's what's going to make me tune in. I don't want some. highlight package of fucking them hitting good shots into a simulator it's just going to be the same shit we always see yeah i want real stuff yeah i mean look i hope it's amazing and again i think it'll be worth watching but i i'd be surprised if it's like yeah i'd be surprised if it becomes this gigantic tv success you know it's it's just it's exciting that they're doing they're trying stuff yeah right that is definitely that is definitely a direct result of live golf i mean for sure they're

trying things they're you know the the the tour that looks nothing like it did last year this is something that they've never done before. They're throwing things at the wall because they have to. And I think, you know, when you hear guys talk about saying, I think the emergence of live is good for the golf ecosystem as a whole. This is the kind of stuff that it's producing that supports that hypothesis. It likes a fire under your ass, you know, if you're on the tour or, you know, whatever. Did you guys see the Pro Bowl is adding like a long drive contest to it?

Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. What? The Pro Bowl in the NFL is doing a long drive contest to see who can hit the longest. It's no longer a game. like a skills competition, the whole Pro Bowl. And so one of them is the long drive contest.

Josh Allen versus Aaron Rogers, who can hit their longest drive. It's not, they don't do a game at all anymore. No more game anymore. That's smart. That was stupid that they did that for so long. So dumb. It's like the most violent sport possible when you're doing an exhibition with guys who. You bet the best players in your league.

They get beat up fucking 17 games a year. It's like you can't be just playing exhibition games. But all right. So they do long drives. They do. So they put other sports into it? I think golf might be the only one that they're putting into it. But like, you know, you got to catch one with one hand.

All those like crazy. One-on-one pickleball game to 11? One-on-one pickleball game. I think, yeah, I think, I don't know. The NFL Pro Bowl has always been a mess. But at this point, it should just be like, hey, you would, you, this is an award that you get. It doesn't have to be like a home run derby's king when it comes to all-star games. But then they still fuck that up.

They still fucked that up. Yeah, I thought they had the format figured out a couple years ago. and then they switch it every year. Just give me 10 outs. Just give me 10 outs. I don't care how long it is. I don't care how many home runs and how tired the guys get because they hit 30 home runs. Listen,

if a guy hits 30 home runs like fucking Josh Hamilton did at Yankee Stadium and he gets tired out and doesn't win in the end, that's his fault. Like that was his strategy. He went to put on a show. He hit unlimited home runs in a round where it didn't matter and he just fucking kept going. He ended up not winning. At the end of the day, at the end of the time thing sucks. How many home runs can you hit in three minutes?

I feel like you would get hurt more with time. because you're you're asking 10 outs is 10 outs but when you do a timer you're just like swing as many times and as hard as you can in this amount of time that feels like a recipe for an injury i used to love like they'd take a couple pitches and you'd be like all right like he's taking his time he's got nine outs he's waiting for that fucking groove like that was the best man and also like you can put him against like the the mcguire years and the sosa years like now you can't it's like a new category i fucking hate when they change that shit i uh i remember the the NHL skills competition

all start game when Ray Bork would win the most accurate shot every year and it would be this dramatic because it's all this hype and he would always win it and then he would come up because they would do the four targets on the net and I think he had a couple of times where he came up and just went four for four as like the top dog and people went crazy

but but yeah there's not much juice for all star hockey's pretty good fastest shot hardest slap shot fastest skater and then the accuracy is like pretty electric I mean I'm hoping my guy Brock Nelson's in the accuracy one this year that'll be fun to watch them in I actually do like the um the three point contest with NBA dunk contest is zero but the three point contest is really really fun yeah true um last thing I got do you guys take any vitamins no yeah from time of time stretches where I'll all I'll see one YouTube clip and I'll be like I'm gonna change

my life but then I abandoned it a couple days I did vitamin D vitamin C during the winter I just bought like a one a men's one a day day, I don't know, a month or so ago, just because I was seeing a bunch of that type of stuff, Trent. I just was wondering if that's, like, felt like from what was coming across my desk that I was like the only person on earth not taking like a vitamin. So I just bought a one, a random one a day. Like a gummy? Like one of these yummy gummies?

I didn't do the gummy. I did just the pill. It's all business. Feels more adult. I mean, it definitely felt more adult. I wasn't sure. How are you feeling? You feeling any different?

I feel like Superman. I feel pretty good. I feel pretty good. Yeah. I don't know. It's just, yeah. I don't. Yeah.

You kind of feel like when you take one in the next five minutes, you do feel a little bit like a superhero where like the vitamins are going to the right spots, you know? I think they call that the placebo effect. I know that they do. You're like John Rom now. You're like a plus 12 winning every tournament. So John Robb's just unstoppable now. Is that the situation?

He might not lose. I mean, the guy is on an absolute rampage. Feels like he's taking another world. I mean, he's still only number three in the world despite winning four of his last six events. But you don't need an algorithm to tell you who's playing the best golf. of the world at the moment. It's that big, hairy Spanish winning machine. It is, but it, but it's also

like Rory hasn't played yet. Yeah, he's the only one playing is. Yeah. Right. The last time Rory was playing, he was that, yeah, he was just winning everything. So we could have a great Rory Rob situation, but you're right. I mean, right now, Rob is, I mean, yeah, he's fucking unstoppable. He's winning everything. Fucking guy. And the way he swings and with his guy, it feels like he can't really miss. And this was the place where he was, he was bitching about it being a, uh, uh, putting contest last year and then shout out to him coming full circle and not like shy it away from where in the post round rest of he's like yeah i won the putting contest this year so he did like a little callback to his own viral kind of clip which i loved so yeah john rom's just as hot as it gets right now

it's it's it's hard to fathom how well he's playing yeah no he's he's not missing at all and obviously we were at this tournament uh for the l pga so we didn't get much um viewing of the american express but from everything I saw on Twitter, the guy's just a fucking problem. He is a full-blown issue out there, and you hear all these things. He would be like, you'd have to, if you played him one-on-one,

you'd have to get like 22 strokes from him at your local country club, and he'd still wax your ass. It's not so good he is at golf. It's insane. So you're telling me, if you started with a 22-stroke lead against John round one-on-one, you would lose?

Or like a 20-minute. He's a plus-13, they said? Yeah, they're saying like around plus 12, roughly. Yeah, I'd probably get, roughly a shot a hole probably maybe even a little yeah and i think he would win right i mean yeah i mean it depends on how hard the like the harder the golf courses the more chance he because these guys shoot 63 on really hard courses yeah and the difference is match play if you do match play right it's like you can just lose a hole by four strokes you lose it by one it's not a big deal but if you did a stroke

play if you did a stroke play four-day tournament against john rob he beat us by a hundred i mean oh that's yeah it's true though like easy easily. Yeah, it would be stupid. Like, what are we doing here? But Madge play, I think if you get to stroke hole, you could give him a little bit of a run if you heat up, but fuck, he's good at call. All right. Larry Fitz. Wait, we got to talk about this fungus really quick. We got to talk about fungus really quick. Fungus is a problem. It's something that's going undetected in this world. We're talking about bacteria, talking about COVID, talking about all these things. Fungus is an issue. Fungus is an absolute issue. It basically turns people, it hasn't turned people yet, but it turns

ants and insects into zombies. It takes over their brains. It keeps them alive just enough so that they can move these ants and insects towards other ants and insects and then they can reach their sports. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Bro, fungus.

So this show on HBO, The Last of Us, is a zombie show. And basically, without giving anything away, but fungus is like the reason why all these, there was an apocalypse, right? And fungus essentially got into people's brains and then it was able to take over their brain. And that's how

they eat people or whatever. So I'm looking it up. I'm like, is the thing in The Last of Us real? And it is. Like the stuff they talk about, the type of fungus is absolutely real. It's just in our world, it can't exist inside a human

because it can't exist in a temperature over 98 degrees. So to clear up the ant point was the fungus needs sunlight. And when they can't reach sunlight, what the fungus will do is take over an ant. And the ant, it will make the ant climb up towards, the sun onto a tree and when it gets to the sunlight it'll start to grow. It becomes a parasite onto something that can reach sunlight.

If you were to put it on the ground, it would just start going up again. Its brain is broken to how it just keeps on climbing. It's nuts. And there's videos of these ants just being overtaken. Like there's all the ants are in line and they're all going toward the hill. And then all of a sudden one just steps out of line and just starts climbing the fucking tree. And it's like, what's that one doing? And then it gets to the top and it just explodes into like a mushroom.

It's fucking insane. And up until this point, it has. has not translated over to humans yet. No, because it can't exist in like our system. Actually, some, I think in like the Chinese culture, they've actually used it as medicine right now. So like it is, it's like comforting knowing that like that feels like a bad idea. That feels like a bad idea.

Right, right. Yeah, absolutely. That's how this happens. Yeah, 100%. Absolutely. Yeah. It's just going to cure us. Absolutely.

Everybody's climbing trees and exploding into mushrooms. Yeah. So right now it just like can't live and like we can't be host for it. but basically like the the idea behind the last of us is like what if it just like what if it just adapts and like what if like the earth gets warmer and like like the fungus starts like adapting to try and survive you know what I mean like if something something just happens the re the scariest part is that there is no there is no medicine there is no vaccine dude at one point in the show the lady just goes but like bomb every like bomb just bomb you have to just bomb everything and

She's like, she's crying. She's like, bomb. He's like, what do we do? She's like atomic bomb. Because you can't. There's no, it's just, it spreads. It goes. It goes, it goes, it goes, it goes.

And it's over. It's done. So, yeah, no, it's something, it's called, um, cordyceps and opio corticeps. These are the fungus that are formerly known as just cortisps. They infect insects and ants like other invertebrates. And they do essentially turn themselves into zombies. The fungi, fungi take over their minds and bodies, causing them to behave in such a way so that they can spread spores at their other kind.

And that's what they use in The Last of Us. So just something to think about. It's something to think about that came across my desk late last night on the plane. I was thinking about fungus taking over my brain. And it's just scary, man. We live in this world. We really don't think about, you know, the end. And I think that could, I think that could be it.

I think I see fungus being the end. Wow. Okay. There's a lot of candidates for the end. It just depends on which one's going to take the opportunity, you know? bombs. There are a lot of candidates. Fungi.

But I think a fungus will eventually get into someone and then we'll just start bombing. For the cut bet, we've got to make some picks. Oh. Hold on there. I know we went a little long, even with the interview,

but you guys have to listen to Michael Waltrip and Larry Fitz. All right. Let me pull this up here. Because they're unbelievable. I'm taking Sawyth. Okay. Put it on the board.

That's one for the cut. Who missed it last week, by the way? Oh, that's a great question. I know we didn't hit it because nobody was tweeting at me. That's my indicator as well. And I saw it. Would you have to be 10 under to make the cut? Yeah, 10 under, I think, was the...

I mean, what are we doing out there? 10 under is tough. So you're going, Sawhith? Yeah. I'm just pulling the Barso Sportsbook. Hold on. I'm going to go Harry Higgs. Whoa.

He had, what are you shoot at 63 at one point? I saw something, I saw something come across where he had a really nice round. I saw him repost, I think, a scorecard. I saw a lot of fucking circles on that scorecard. I love Harry Higgs. We had one of our better interviews we've ever done about a year ago with Harry Higgs, maybe a little over a year ago. So I just saw that name when I was scrolling through the field. Harry Higgs is going to make the cut this week.

Okay. I actually really like that. I love rooting for that guy. He's an easy guy to root for him. Oh, yeah, shirts off. Fucking. Oh, Ricky Fowler. I'm obviously going

Ricky Fowler. Okay. Farmers Insurance, California boy, hometown, you know, the whole deal. He played solid last week. I think he was in the top 20. He was around there. He made the cut. Yeah, no, I'm taking Ricky Fowler.

Absolutely. I don't know if we've talked about it. I think we might have, because he might have done it last year, two or two years ago. He has started to do the thing where he wears all black. Yep. We had said on this show, if he starts going by Rick, and if he starts wearing all black,

that he's going to be that guy now. You kind of grow out of, you mature out of looking like a highlighter. Is he doing that now? Dude, he wore all black this weekend. Rick, dude, I'm telling you, we had that whole change for him. Stop being Ricky.

Stop wearing the creamsicle popsicles and start going by Rick and wear black. That's great. Let me change this to Rick Fowler. All right. So we got Sothith, the gala, Harry Higg, Rick Fowler, and Trent.

We need one more. One mas, for favor. I'm just going through these names. It's a value ad. you want a value add yeah i got a scroll a little bit then yeah give us a couple scrolls like you talk about that ball that hit that pin and didn't go in on 17 from our from our boy there did you guys see that fucking clip yeah i don't think it was going in right i mean it was in for sure i don't know dude i think you're blind if you think that ball wasn't going to the middle of the hole and

it still wasn't like that close to going in i think it was move i think it was gaining speed there's a hole there and that puppy was hit in the back of that cup of going in that hole. There's no doubt about it. But the one thing I will say is that I don't like when people just don't seem to understand physics

and people were like, yeah, if he would have just hit a little softer, it would have been in. Well, no, it would have missed the line. It would not have the line, yeah. Correct. Like, you have to match line and speed. So it's like, I was just carrying a little too much speed. If he hits that a little better pace, it's in. I was like, no, it would have just missed right, like low and right.

So that part, I don't like that. I do think if he were to take him the pin out, but he always keeps the pin in for that long of puts to help with speed control whatnot. So there's really like nothing different. I don't think he would have done. But I do believe firmly that thing was so square that I think it had it. It would have had the car.

It hits the back, does the little hop and then goes in. Maybe a little hop, but I think it's in. I think it was so dead center that it's in. And I think it was so dead center on like that pin that I still. don't really understand how it didn't go in, but I, I, I'm of the firm belief that puppy was going in. I really, it's, it's crazy the millimeter difference because the, the birdie putt that Rob made on 16 was, just caught the low lip and really, really, really almost missed.

So that one follows Davis Thompson's doesn't. If it goes the other way, then Davis Thompson wins out right. That's, yeah, that's, uh, dead center. What's Davis Thompson, 23 years old or something like that? He's like 23 or 24 rookie out of Georgia, really, really, really good player. Guy you've been hearing about for a couple years. Calam Terran. That's going to be my go.

Calum Terran, our guy. Put them on the four-the-cut bet. Hopefully they can actually take ours this way, the way that we wanted it. So we've got Rick Fowler, hopefully wearing all black all week, coming in like a fucking Harley, Harry Higgs, Sahith, the Gala,

and Colum Terran, our boy, our English chap. So we'll get that up on the Barstool Sportsbook for the cut. And then we're going to do everything we can to get the hole in one bat, activated again. I don't believe there was a whole one one this week, right? I didn't see anything. I didn't see anything. No, I got no tweets or nothing. I think we actually saved. That's a wait. So yeah, we saved your bankroll a little bit. You're welcome. Barstville Sportsbook. We're going to, we're going to fight tooth and nail to get that whole and one bet back up for the farmers.

I would imagine it's going to be pretty decent odds because this is a major championship type course. Obviously, it's a little different setup than it is for US Open. But tough track, tough tracks. And so, yeah, hopefully we get that up in the Barcelona. book for the cut. We're going to get those four fellas in there. We're going to try to get you some good odds. We're going to boost it and we're going to get some wins. All right.

Interview time. So let's throw it to two legends. Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Waltrip. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. All right.

We just jump right in. We're here. Larry Fitzgerald. I just played a little round of golf with you at the Hilton Grand Vacations tournament of champions LPJ. We're having a great time. Big thanks then for having us. This is pretty much turned into a pickleball podcast.

before we start. You don't go anywhere without your pickleball ring it? I don't. Golf clubs and pickleball, you know, we play golf in their day and then pickleball at night, yeah. How long have you been playing pickleball? So I would say, like, most people, I would say, not most people, but a lot of people during 2020 the pandemic, like, nothing else to do. And so, like, I literally built one in my backyard.

And I would play against my kids. You didn't build. Somebody built. Yeah, somebody built. But it got built, and that's essentially what we would do. I mean, and, you know, the kids would do the online schooling, and then we would go out there and have some fun in the backyard. Were you into racket sports before? Like, just play tennis at all?

No. I played ping pong at, you know, like boys and girls clubs and stuff like that, but never any tennis or racquetball or bad men, nothing like that. Yeah. Pickle, you got to be pretty good. You cover your wingspan. Yeah. You know, the game that I play singles, I'm better at singles than I am in doubles. So it's a much different, faster, quicker game.

And singles and doubles, you just see. you got to be able to communicate with your partner and really be able to, you know, cover where their blind spots are. And, you know, it's fun. It's great. It's great. And it's one of the few sports that,

no, for you to pick up a golf club for the first time, it would take you six months to be able to go out and play. At least. Like, as if you're hitting balls every day, working on all the fastest of your game, to be able to go out and actually enjoy around. Right. Right.

And pick a ball. If you get four people who are starting the first time that day, everybody's equal in terms of skill level. everybody understands the rules you will have a good time in five minutes like a good time laughing having the ball hitting good shots right hitting good shots yes there's no there's no other there's no other sport that i've seen that you can pick it up so quickly and have such a good time frankie's been saying that because he's been bringing pickle ball up a lot on this show and he also apparently traveled with his pickleball paddle well i've just got the bug i got you got you

brought your paddle i brought my paddle it's an easy thing to travel with i mean you throw it in your I'm going to humble your ass in a little bit. That's what I've heard. You know, I told you I'm going to dominate the kitchen on your ass and we're going to be brum-rushing the net. But now I'm thinking about a superstar all-time great athlete running around the fucking court. I might not be able to keep up with that. I want to smoke. Listen, I'm ready for the challenge.

I'm excited to see what like a, because I've been playing with my buddies, like what you're saying. We all kind of just started going to these indoor facilities in the winter. We rent the court almost every night now. We're just there for three hours and we love it. You get a sweat. And I was saying one of the more satisfying things about it is you can crush. the ball and it doesn't go that hard. So you're getting that satisfying feeling of absolutely

whaling on it. It depends on what ball you're playing. Playing a durable. Okay. See, I don't know that much about all the balls yet. Yes, yeah. I'll say I feel a lot pressure because the whole MO on pickleball is like a little lady can pick it up. It's easy. You'll get used to the rules, especially in doubles. Okay. Where like you can't hit it on the return.

You have to let it bounce. A lot of like first timers will just go up and hit it in the air. You can't step into the kitchen. We'll teach you all that stuff. Yeah, what's the kitchen. I heard about the kitchen is right around the net. area where you can't step in unless the ball bounces in that area. It stops you from being able. It's kind of like the same place at your house, like the place you never go into. Yeah.

I actually, dude, I had two to half years in my apartment. I've never used my stove. That's not one. That was insane. Dude, I didn't even realize I guess it's got like a double oven or something in my apartment,

which is really cool. It's a nice feature. I guess people love that. My buddy came and visited last week. He's like, oh, this double oven is sick. And I was like, I have a double oven.

What is that even mean? So you're right. The kitchen. I like that there's a thing called the kitchen. So we're going to get that going going to be really exciting. I think I will get humbled, but I'm going to have some sort of confidence

to say that I think I'll be able to keep up to do. Well, the pressure is on the professional, I think I would say. Yeah, I like that pressure. Singles are going to fucking crush me. I think we have a chance of doubles. Like, at least to keep it competitive. Yeah, it'll be competitive for sure. So I think we're playing with Ryan and Georgia Hall, right?

So Ryan, too, we play with today, who is awesome. Yeah. We're going to have her on the show. She played well today. She's shot 72, but her personality-wise, she was, I mean, she was gawking at Larry's ass. before we teed up yeah it's like the first thing she said to me out of the putting her and she goes you see larry Fitzgerald's ass you know the the funniest thing about that is Ryan actually came to me

like midway she was like you know Riggsie keeps talking about your ass like so he's trying to he's putting on her he's projecting that's what he was saying and like that's that's you're just not buying it what is not telling us something right it's like I'm back with a uh our NASCAR guy yeah well we just saw Walt Tripped he was doing the the same thing. He took us for a trip. He's telling us. He's something. Dude, he was telling, he was like, A historical revisionist.

When did you get obsessed with golf? So, it was 2013. My former teammate, he plays with the Carolina Panthers name, Carolina Panthers now. His name is Andre Roberts, kickoff, all pro, kickoff return specialists. And one day after practice, he was like,

Fitz, what are you going to do? I was like, I'm just going to go home. He was like, man, no, come play golf with me. I was like, golf. I like watching golf but I have no desire to play it takes forever he's like trust me just come out and play so I went out he had a little charity scramble and I hit it like shit I hit it all over the place but I hit a few shots and you know it's all it takes

you know you can press a golf ball and it goes in the direction that you want you're like oh man yeah like and then me being just a competitor that I am like I just started playing and playing and playing and I got really pretty good I got down to like a two and like since I retired I've actually played a lot less golf than I would anticipate it. Why is that? You know, because I realize that golf was something I really, really love to do, but it like it wasn't the main thing, right?

I was always playing ball. And like it's it's therapeutic for me to be able to go out and play. It kind of takes me off of the things that I'm working on and things that I'm doing. Yeah, for sure. But when I was doing it every single day for the thing, like it just, it was wearing me down a little bit because I was put. too much pressure on myself. Like I wanted to be a scratch player.

And like it was, it was kind of messing with me. And so, um, so I haven't played as much. And my kids are getting to that age now where this is really labor intensive. I got a 15 year old freshman. And I have a, uh, nine year old fourth grader and a six, six year old first grader. And they just basketball, football, you know, chess club. I just, I'm the lowest paid Uber driver in the valley. Never got a five-star rating either.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I can relate to that a little bit because we've been the last few years, especially, like, our job's taking us to the point where, like, we play golf a ton. Almost a lot of people think we play it for our job. And there are certain trips we go on, even where you're out there, you're kind of like, it is almost more fun when it's like you work. Not more for, but it's like you get more jacked up almost for it and therefore play even better. When it's you work, you grind and then you sneak out the afternoon with your buddies and you, like, weren't expected it to bonus round or something. Yeah.

So that is funny to hear you. You say that because I know now you talked a lot about all people who probably don't know this about you, but like you're obsessed with businesses. You invest in a bunch of different stuff. You're busier now than you're playing. For sure. I mean, like when you're playing sports, like your focus and attention is concentrated on that. Right. Now when you're done, you know, like some of the business I'm involved don't require like 40 hour a week, 50 hour a week commitment. I can do it. I can manage it. I can, you know, get the right people in place to be able to, you know, keep it on the rails. And I can, you know, engage in different things. And so I really enjoy, like, the flexibility and creativity, you know, when you're done to kind of get involved in things that you find interesting. But, you know, I do miss, you know, the camaraderie, the fellowship and just being able to be focused on something that's, you know, bigger than yourself with a bunch of team, with the teammates. And so, like, there's components that I like now and there's certain components that you miss. Yeah.

I can imagine, like, the competitiveness in you for being in such a high level for so long. you're always trying to scratch that itch, right? Just a little bit, like, to pickleball later. You're probably going to want to, like, murder me out there. Like, and just make sure that I'm not getting a single point on you because, like, does something igniting you just in the back of your brain? For sure. Like, that competitive spirit never goes away.

It doesn't matter if we're playing chess, you know, if we're playing pickleball, if we're playing golf, like, whatever it is, you know, you need to have that competitive issue. I was playing, like, crap today. And I asked Rick's like, let's get a little game. And he hit me with, like, let's do a 5, 5, 5, 5. I'm like, five, five. This is revision.

Like, he's so cheap, bro. Like, I finally pushed him to do, like, you know, a $50 close out, and that was painful for him, you know. And it was bad, man. Like, he wouldn't give me the juice that I really needed today. Well, you got to think you were... I agreed to the juice. I agreed to the juice that I want.

So that's one thing we're not talking about here. I did feel bad. You didn't have your best. I actually, the main reason I want to stick around down, if your game's going to stay the way it is. But let's just keep it 100, though. When we played the last time over Mountain Shadows, I beat the brakes off of you.

Like, you stopped talking to me for a while. We died. No, no, no, no. There's a lot of revisionist history going on. I actually did tell that story. That's not what happened. That's a great story when I roll up on the first team. I got after him over at Mountain Shadows.

And like, it got, I didn't hit it great today. But Riggily was complaining about him, you know, not being at Whisper Rock yet. And, you know, everything that, you know, all the wolves is me's and all that. stuff out there. He really singing the sad sob swords. He actually has a real accurate account of what none of this is true.

This is we're back with NASCAR. You are, is a two-time champion of the 18th Beach? I am. I am. But a lot of people online who are saying that if you're a two-time champion of a net tournament, that maybe something's a little fishy with the handicapped. No, Strills is spectacular. Kevin Strillman. With those three

courses, a man of Strill something just ignites in him. He plays well. He's got a different look in his eyes on the West Coast swings. How did you get synced up with him? You know, Estrills, I met Kevin in 2013 when I first got into Whisper Rock, and what I love about Strills, what I love about Strills, though, is, like, you guys are all play golf,

and you guys are all low handicappers and understand what it's like to play with high handicappers, you know, looking for balls and telling them to pick up the spike marks, hey, that's your tense shot, pick the shit up, let's go, we're throwing the group down behind them. You know, so like you understand that. And Strzzo's played with me when I was just starting. He would give me 20 shots. You know, sometimes, you know, even higher than that. And he loved on me, taught me, hung with me.

So I just always had a really strong love for Strills and does. So get a chance to spend four days with him out there, Pebble Beach. And, you know, he makes it so much fun for me. Yeah. I heard last time you were out at Shadow Creek, you took a little bit off of our favorite person to take money with a little cold cash. Well, Colt knows cash. It's not easy to get it from him. No, it's hard.

You know, he hits the driver about, you know, 2.10. If he hits a sprinkler head, 2.15, you know. But he never misses the fairway. And he puts it lights out, man. Lights out. And so, you know, he wasn't playing that great. You know, he probably working on about two hours of sleep. And so I caught him with his pants down.

Yeah. Yeah, you call me. How many struck did he give me that day at Smash Bay? Was it 14? I think so. We pushed on 18 because he had three putt, three jacked on 18, and I was doing tumble salt off the green. He'll never recover from that, ever. God, he is an infuriating golfer to play with. How far you hit your driver? That thing is a beast. Yeah, you know, it's directionally challenged, unfortunately. But, you know, if I'd catch it, I'd usually, you know, 315 carry or so. Carry. Yeah, and if it's soft, they'll roll out a little bit further. That was your straightest club nation.

to hit that all day. Yeah. I didn't have enough balls, though. I only brought six balls. And, you know, I didn't want to be like our boy. What was the movie where he kept hitting the ball in the water? Ten cup. I ain't want to be like that round of balls, you know.

So I need it to, I needed to conserve. You got the seminal hat on. And I know that you have maybe the coolest whole-in-one of all time. Can you tell us about that three years ago? Four years ago? Yeah. So I got a chance to play with Glenn Hutchins, Jimmy Dunn, who was the president at Semino

and I got a chance to play with President Obama and we got to the 13th hole and he hit a really tight shot in there like no, President Obama hit it to probably like six feet and he was chirping. You call him, President? What do you call him? President Obama. President Obama.

Or 44. He hit in there tight. He did in there tight and he was chirping and I was like that was a great shot. I was a great shot and I stepped up. A-iron. It was blowing into it was probably like 15. hit a nice little tight cut.

Like the winch lit it up and it dropped and just rolled in. And like, he got excited, you know. And I didn't know how to respond because I saw, you know, the Secret Service in front of us and the back of us that I saw the guns. And I just like, can you, can you tackle him? Can you hug him? You know, like, thank you. Thank you, thank you, very.

Don't make any quick movements, you know. And it was, it was awesome. And no, it's a moment I'll never, I'll never forget. And I remember Jimmy, you know, making a couple phone calls. Next thing you know, I was on golf channel by the end of the day. And it was, it was a cool. He waived that there's a no cell phone rule, right? But he let you guys talk about.

It was his cell phone. Okay. Yeah, he's the president. Yeah, I would never have pulled my phone out. That's fair. How nerve-wracking is it to play with the president? Like, when you get on property, you're like, holy shit. Well, that was the first time I actually met him, too.

Okay. And so I think it made it even more nervous. And, you know, spending time, if you guys have ever spent time with the president, you know, you realize, like, these are some special, special people. Right. I mean, he could talk, you know, finance, he can talk, you know, agriculture, he can talk sports, he can talk, you know, political economic, like, whatever the subject you want to talk about, like, he's got it. He's got that in the tool bag. And it's spectacular and interesting to be able to spend four hours with somebody who's just that well-versed in everything in life. Definitely.

Closest trink got was a missed handshake from Georgia. W. We were at the President's Cup this year, and he's walking through the tunnel after the first T. And, you know, I'm like, I got to take a photo with the president. It's just a cool thing to be around a president. So I'm like, Trent, you grab one for me. So I go, Mr. President, can I take a photo?

He goes, sure. And Trent, as that's happens, going to get a handshake. So in the middle of the video, you just see Trent's hand going like this. What is George W's video? He was trying to get a picture with Frank. He said, snap that son of a gun. Let's get going to snap that son of a gun. And I kept going like this, shake his hand.

So when you get around a president, The air is different. It is. It is. It is. It is. Yeah. Was he pretty chit-chattie? I wouldn't say he was chit-chatti, but he was definitely conversational. He mean, he's really down the earth, easy-go. But all of them are like that. Yeah. You meet President Biden and, you know, Bill Clinton's awesome. Yeah. You know, President Bush. I mean, they're all. Yeah. You don't, you can't get that high. You got to win an election. Yeah, you do. And then you just, you're privy to so much information and knowledge and you have so many intelligent people around you. that are, you know, helping you just digest everything that there is to digest. It's a really special. What a whole one.

Yeah. Is that your only one? No, no, that was my second one. I have four. Yeah, I got four. So you've had two cents then? Yeah. How much golf are you playing?

I play a lot, but the key is not how much is just hitting it close to the pen. Something that you did not do very much every day. I killed you today. What is going on here? This guy just never tells the truth. It's the power of the micro, like, I just believe him. I don't believe you. I don't care what the facts are.

There's just numbers out there. It's just hard. Simple as that. Where's your favorite place to play golf? You know what? People ask me that often, and it's not so much about, like, the favorite places who I play with. I've been at some, you know, top ten courses, and I play with people who, like, nice people,

but not people that you want to spend four hours of your time with. And then I played in the, you know, the dark at Mountain Shadows with a bunch of, you know, degenerate friends that I love playing $5 closeouts and have just the best time in my life, you know, talking, talking crap. Yeah, the company is more important than the venue. The company is so much more important. Yeah.

Like, would you agree that the older you guys have gotten closer your circles have become, you say you probably play with a smaller amount of people? Totally. You know. You don't want to play with the people you kind of know. No. Yeah. You want to know what you're getting into.

Isn't funny how that happens? You spend so much time building out this network and more and then eventually you hone it back in on there's like, you know, a handful people I really like to play with. And that's pretty much it. Four hours is a long time. Long time. This is not a meet you at the coffee shop. Let's chat for 30. This is four hours of your time, you know.

And you do something you really enjoy doing too. Right. Like spending it with somebody that you don't necessarily want to be around for that longer time when you're doing something you really, really enjoy. They're messing up your vibe. Yeah. Yeah. experience. You play a place like Beth paid where it takes like six and a half hours public course. It's just like you better have the three people that you love around you because that's a

tough day out there. And that's why I love Strills so much, you know, because those are some long rounds out there. You know, you've got inclement weather, it can rain at any time and you're spending five and a half hours with somebody you really, really like and enjoy, you know, you know, Strills has made a lot of great life decisions. One day I don't particularly like, you know, going to Duke. You could have went to North Carolina, you know, where the winters go. But he chose Duke. But besides that, he's as solid as they come. When you were on the road going to different cities,

what was your schedule like when you had a game? Were you able to bring your clubs to road games? So if we played anywhere east of the Mississippi, we would usually travel two days in advance. So we would leave Friday after practice. And then if that happened, we always play golf. Saturday. So we played, you know, like we played in D.C.

We play over at congressional. Do you have someone that's like getting into tea times? I would do it. Yeah, I would do it. Wow. And, you know, for the most part, you know, they would always be able to get us in, you know, play Chicago golf and, and, you know, what's the Oakland Hills and Detroit. Like, we played some awesome places, man. It was a lot of fun.

And, you know, it would put me in a really relaxed mood because most of the time we would walk. And so, like, I wouldn't be tired. You know, you're not tired, you know, playing one round of golf. But I'll get back and go to meetings. But I would sleep great. I was sleep nine and a half hours. And I wake up and I would be energized. And mentally, like, it allowed me to kind of just disconnect as well.

You know, like you sitting around the hotel room, you're thinking about this, and what am I going to do with this route, and this defender's going to do? You know, it kind of just takes your mind to somewhere really easy and allows you just to kind of chill. Have you found that in your golf game, that that mindset has slipped into golf? Are you, like, analytical what you're thinking? And are you, like, seeing all your shots as if you would see your route? No, I mean, I kind of envision what I'm trying to do,

but I don't even take a practice swing. The less I think over the golf ball, the better I play usually. You know, golf is so unique because I play the reactionary sport. You know, when a ball is thrown, like, I don't have time to think about the win. I don't have time to think about, you know, is the grain growing into me that I'm jumping off? Or I don't have time to think of, like all these things that golfers think, when you're walking to your ball, like, damn, it looks like, it's in a divot. I mean, it's a pin on the right side, but the green is like all these things, all this information that you have in golf.

I don't, I didn't have that. So it doesn't do anything. I can't execute the shot anyway. way most of the time so like why am I concerned about all of these things just step up and hit it you know and then hit it again it's interesting Sam Ryder when we played with him he talked about how he grew up playing baseball and he played a sport where you had to hit a 95-mile-hour fastball and you couldn't really think you got to hit it so what he did was he did his whole pre-shot routine before he addressed the ball so he'd think about the shot kind of like talk to himself about what his decision was and then when

he addressed the ball it was like reactionary go time just no practice swing kind of go right into it flow into the ball and then go and I asked him why and he's like I'm not used to stopping over, staring at it. I hit a moving ball my whole life. And now that I happen to be a professional golf, I have to kind of link that in. So it's interesting that athletes like that have to kind of do that. Not all of them are like that.

I've been around some guys who are human rain delays. Take their time out there. Human rain delay. That's what I call on. Through the AT&T, you've played with a bunch of pros, I would imagine. Who's the pro whose game most impressed you up close other than Truman? I played in this event three years ago with Jesse. Jessica Cordo, and I was, I had her card in my hand when she shot 60.

60. 60. Yeah. And so, like, you know, you see, you see these great rounds on TV, right? But when you're walking next to a person and you hear the dialogue with their caddy, so like, I want to hit this seven iron. I want to hold it up against this right to left wind. And the green is going to slope from right to left.

Like, and then she stands over the ball and she hits a cut that holds up against the wind. And then it lands softly and then bows to the rows of the pin for, three feet. Like, you know, it's, it's one thing to try to execute and think about executing a shot and then do it consistently time after time, after time, after time after time for four hours. And so I was just unbelievable, I was just mesmerized by watching it. And, you know, it was like, you know, she was in Fuego. I mean, you know, people talk about, you know, being in that kind of that space where, you know, you see Steph Curry or Clay Thompson when they hit 12, three-pointers in the game where, like the basket must look like it's, you know, it must look like it's this big.

Just in the zone. When you're completely in the zone. And to be able to see that in person, that close, was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Were you talking to her? Or was it kind of like a pitcher with a no hitter where you just want to let her do her thing? So I got to about the 12th hole and she came to me. She's like, Larry, you haven't really been talking the last couple holes. I was like, Jess, I don't know if you.

I don't know if you've seen what you've done in the front. But I'm going to stay away from you. We chat after the round. And, you know, I want her to shoot the 59. I mean, I've never seen it. before. And so I just, I was, I was pulling for, I remember when Jim Fierich shot that 58 up there in Connecticut and watched it on TV and the announcer was talking about it. And, you know, it's, it's the craziest thing is no matter what you shoot in a round of golf, like if I shoot my best

round of, you know, 70, I think about four holes where I could have done this or I can have dead and that. I remember Jim Fierke's interview after the round, he's like, man, if I would have done this and I'm like, bro, you shot 58. What was that? Nobody in the history of golf ever has ever done that on tour before in the tour event you're talking about the shots that you miss you know so like that's what i love about the game is the shot of you know it's it's it's you know you're gonna miss you know is just how how good can your misses be and hogan said that a great round of golf is if he hits three perfect shots of 68 yeah that amazing what tony finna do on instagram was that i whisperer no that was in utah

was in utah he was in utah what he shoot a 60 yeah he shot on instagram story he was going live on instagram and then like i remember watching it for an hour and i remember watching it for an hour and I'm like, he's missing a lot of puts. Like, he was actually, he could have shot 55 in my head. Like, you're thinking about all the ones that he really, but then you think back to, like, the 325-foot bombs he hits, and it's like it kind of all evens out. He was, like, flying at 400 yards too.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those really, really good rounds, it is funny how it feels like they could have gone lower. Yeah. You know, I remember watch because, like, you know, a big Tiger Woods fans. I know you're a huge Tiger fan.

It's like, I remember watching his rounds. And even, like, when he would shoot 65, just, you'd be like, yeah, but, like, like he was on he could have shot 60 what he could have shot 60 you know you feel like these 10 footers they don't miss but when they're that good like even Ryan today it was like she didn't really miss a shot no shot even par and it's like that must be infuriating because like what's your job right she hits she missed like maybe a couple iron shots maybe like two and like birdied a couple of par fives and like shot even par and I was thinking like too every time I'm like now she's going

to get hot now she's going to get hot she's going to blight out and she just barely miss barely miss that must be infuriating. They hit it that good. I think if you talk about Tiger, like, I mean, everybody talks about, you know,

his greatness. Like, the things that, I guess, really stand out to me is, his ability to get around the golf course when he didn't have his A game. Yep.

Right? And I think when you're, like today, I didn't have my A game at all. No. And it was a struggle. But, I mean, you think, you know,

Tiger, he could always depend on hitting a seven iron. He could hit hold off. Like, like, there's a shot that you can go to. You saw last year. in the PGA with Justin Thomas, you know, with the driver. Like he teed it low and was hitting the, like, you know, that little cut, low stinger, right?

Totally. Because he didn't feel like he could. Yeah, the squeezer. The squeezer. Like when you can do shots like that, when you don't have your A game, you know, other guys will falter. They'll make mistakes. But you consistently can just just put it in play and plot it around until the other guy makes it. Like, that's what, that was, that's amazing.

You know, to have that. That's amazing. That really was Tiger's M.O. The great moments people know about. But if you were to go back and watch all of the tournaments that he won, it was him being able to shoot even par when guys couldn't break bar at all. He was like a lot of final round 70s. Yes.

You know, just like squeeze the life out of a tournament. Do you remember the masters he won when, when, uh, when, uh, when, uh, when he dusted. No, no, no, no. But yes. Yeah, 2019. Yes. No, but the group, he was in a group. It was, what three was it?

Tony, Francesco and him. Yes. they both hit the ball in the water on 12. He was hitting last, and he hit it, I'm talking about as far left as you possibly can. Right over the bunker. Left the putt short about five feet. But he wasn't even curious about hitting that ball anywhere past close to that hole. That's right.

These dudes are both in the water. They're going to bank big numbers. Let me make a three. Get out of here. You know, when we stood on the green while those guys are there. Yeah. He's standing in the middle of the green. He's a savage.

Yeah. I mean, he's got those things too. Let's go. Maybe, like, we thought that maybe he, like, lost 11 so he could watch them. Like, because he, like, you hit after the guys. You know what I mean? I think he thought that. He was paying close attention, though.

He was because in the group of head. It's so diabolical. Everyone was hitting in the water, too. Everyone was hitting in the water. And I remember he said that. He goes, I know, I know Brooks hit a nine iron. And I know he flights it better than I do. And I was hit nine iron.

So I knew I had to be left to the bunker. It's like, wow. Yeah. That's locked in. But the most impressive thing I saw Tiger, due at the master still to me when he made 10 on 12 in 2020

yeah and went 5 30 under from from 13 on yeah like that just shows you the 4 to 4 or 2 this dude has for no reason because I probably would have walk to the car like I have 15 majors like what I don't need to strife why right right I'm gonna prove it to myself

I'm gonna prove it like and that just I love that That just really stood out to me. And he was limping like crazy. I remember he couldn't even really get out of the bunker on 12. I know. And Bertie's 13, 15, 16, 17, 19. For no other reason than pure pride.

Yeah. But you relates out as an athlete where it's like, even if they're losing, if you're losing a game, you're still going to make that grab. Yeah, I mean, I've been a lot of blowout games and playing my heart out still because it's about it's about building good habits, right? You know, and I talk to my kids often about that. It's like, you're not going to win every game, but it's about creating good winning habits.

And laying it down, becoming. easier every time you do it right so just getting the habit of creating good work ethic creating good habits and you know are you going to win every time no but it'll make it more likely the better you do it i was impressed how well you laid down today that was great i can't wait for pickleball i can't wait i've never played you changed the flight yet i yeah you did you did you let you let you let everybody know back home that you're not going to make it tonight the high date did you got the day i was You're going to go with 10. I was going to watch Netflix to like three of the morning. You told me you had to date at Dominic's night.

That's your restaurant. Great establishment. Shout to Oliver. Yeah. You ever play golf with Oliver? I've never played golf with Oliver. I've never played golf with Oliver. Maybe the best attitude on a golf course ever seen.

He's got the best attitude, period. Yeah. There's this guy, me and Josh know him well, and he's a big steakhouse guy out in the Scottsdale, Arizona, which he invested. He's an awesome guy. And Josh brought him out to Whisp Rock. And I've never seen some about. He plays like once a year, so he didn't play well. He's out of pretty much every hole.

And he would, like, hit another iron, like off a tree out of play. And he, dead serious would just be like, is there literally anything better than this boy? A little fresh air. Literally every hole. And Josh goes, if I had his attitude, I'd be on the BJ tour. He'd be like, ah, how beautiful is it on here. So nice.

I love that guy. He's great. He's fantastic. He is. How are we going to do this pickleball? Who's going to go get our paddles? We got to change. We got to change of clothes.

Yeah. Let's get it going. Some shoes. So we're good for 5.30? 530. Let's do that. You've got the court. Bring that money.

All right. I got plenty of your money. I know, so I'm saying bring it. I'll bring that money. I'll have to call my dad or something. My dad's going to talk to one of his guys in Long Island. Larry Fitzgerald. Absolute.

Thank you guys for having me. Thank you for doing it. This is awesome. We appreciate it. You're the man. All right. Folks, we're live from Florida. We're at the Tournament of Champions, LPGA event here,

and we're joined, I think, we got Michael Walter, who I believe you're our first NASCAR guest ever. I believe that's right. Yeah, that's right. In history? Yeah, certainly for this show. Barstool is really dived or dove? Diving.

Is diving deep into NASCAR in the last couple of years. I've been to a couple events with Dave, and it's been a lot of fun to see the interactions with all the drivers, but definitely the first golf NASCAR mix. I went to New York to, I did a documentary about my racing career, and I went to New York to promote it, and I went to Barstool for an interview, and old Dave came out and said hello.

That was cool. Hi, Dave. What's it like going on one of those media tours? Is that something you enjoy, or is it, by the end of it, you're probably like, boy. I've done, you know, I've raised cars my whole life, so I've done media stuff, been, you know, done things that, um, that your sponsors ask you to do. And it's, it's,

it's like life. Some of it's great. Some of it's not so great. But the, going to New York City. So we went to New York City and, um, I don't know how much you know about me, but I grew up like a fan of my brother's, watched my brother race. I didn't really know him. I just was his fan. What was the age difference? 16 years. So he was off on his, on his own. And then I became friends with Richard Petty. Yep. And, uh, I lived with the king for a bit. And the funny thing. And the Funny thing I'm telling you the story to tell you is we went to New York City to watch the debut of the documentary and the king came. So I sat next to Richard Petty. And so in 1984, when I lived with them, we would sit on the couch at night and eat popcorn and watch TV.

And then fast forward to 2017. I'm not good at math, but that's 37 years later. And I'm sitting there watching this documentary with Richard Petty. Nothing changed. I know, that was about me. I don't think that, I didn't see this one coming. How, I mean, documentaries now are changing the game for a lot of different sports. We talk a lot about the Formula One documentary and Drive to Survive on this show.

Has that, have you seen a boost in NASCAR from that? I think people appreciate the story. It was very well done. And it was honest, and it was everybody that had anything to do with that day. in Daytona when Dale died. Dale Jr. was on it. Richard Petty was on it. My ex-wife was on it. So, yeah, it...

Now Sony Pictures has optioned it to make it into a feature film. And so we'll see how that goes. I told him, I said, I think maybe Vince Vaughn should play me. Yeah, who would you have it? Yeah, maybe Vince Vaughn because he's tall and handsome and funny, like me. Three for three. And then maybe Rosie O'Donnell plays Max White. It's a good choice.

That's a good choice. Yeah, that's solid. That's going to Taladega Nights. That's one for, that's going to be a... That's a documentary, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. On who's like?

On whose life? Being first or last. Yeah. Is there any... Is racing a skill where it could translate if one of the NASCAR drivers went to Formula One or one of the Formula One drivers came over here? Or is it so different where it would be too big of a learning current? Nope.

I think it's 100%. Like if you got the top NASCAR driver, you put him in a Formula One car, he'd figure that shit out. Yeah. And a great example. Kyle Larson just committed or announced he's going to run the 24 Indy 500. And we've seen NASCAR drivers do the double run Indy 500 World 600 on the same day. That's happened four times, I think. Kurt Busch was the last maybe.

So Kyle was going to do that next. But Kyle Larson, if he was a, if he grew up in Europe or if his, if his past, Pat took him to Formula One, he would win. So the Indies in the morning and then they fly over? Yeah. Where's the second race? Charlotte. Got it.

So it's the Coke 600. Memorial Day weekend celebration. What a beautiful event. A really, really nice, they do a great job of thanking and appreciating our fallen soldiers. And they stop the race in the middle of it and turn off the engines to have a moment of silence. Oh, wow. That's pretty cool. It's intense.

It's really a special evening, and that's a great day. You have Monaco in the morning, and then you have Indian in midday, and then the Coke's at night. It's a hell of a racing day. Wow. That's a racing day. I love every bit of that. Unfortunately, for the last 30-some years, have been busy on Memorial Day, either driving

or doing TV. So I've never really got to enjoy it from, you know, just set back and take it all in. but that'll happen one day. It sounds like a great day with your buddies. You start drinking in the morning and never stop. And see who's able to stand up at the end of 600 miles. How much as a driver are you in tune with the nuts and bolts of the car? So I think all of us, especially back in the day, we had to work in our cars.

So we had to understand the nuts and bolts of it. And maybe that's changed a bit over the years where it's not so much that. It's not as necessary. Okay. Because, you know, that's not the path you're on. but I'm not much of a mechanic. I did whatever they told me to do. They point me at a project and I try to knock it out for them.

You got over there diagnosing it and everything. I don't know how to do all that kind of stuff. But today, the more important piece of the puzzle is simulation and data. You know, these guys have to sort through so many pieces of information so that they understand. And I don't think a lot of people that follow or watch NASCAR know how precise and technical it is. Just up there and make a left. And then go down there and make a left. And do that like a thousand times.

That's a race. That's a race. Just do it faster to everybody else. I think if people understood exactly how precise and technical it is, they would even like it more. It's like a baseball game. You know, when they might hit and run or sack. You know, if you know all that stuff, it makes it more interesting. And the same with NASCAR.

A lot of people, I don't think, really get the technicalities of it all. But it's pretty intense. Has that part of it changed? Like baseball with Moneyball and golf with, you know, all the technology and the data. Go blue! My daughter went to Michigan. Okay. So it's changed.

Yeah, tough loss. We had, yeah, that's... Good season. Jim's back. Jim is back. Who saw that coming, though? No one, right? Nobody.

You knew TCU was going to get pumped after that, you know, they expended all of their energy. Did you know that? You bet on that? No. Then you probably didn't know that. Okay. I would have liked to know that.

It got crushed. It would help me. I had TCU minus 13. Yeah, I did. Plus 13. Lost by a, or plus 13, lost by a billion. So it's tough. Yeah.

I, uh, I like how people, so you guys, are smart, you know, obviously. But you're listening to the show last year. You talk to your buddy like, put your house on Michigan. No way, T.C. You know, I was playing golf that

day and I sat down with the four guys I played with and they're like telling me everything to bet and I don't bet much. Like I like to bet occasionally, but I don't really get into it like they were. Literally everything they said was wrong. And that's betting, right?

Yeah. No matter what you know, it's always going to be something sneaks in and get you. The best gamblers in the world are like 55%. And they're the best in the world. And you know why that is? Because they have really nice hotels in Vegas. Like your house doesn't look anything like a hotel in Vegas. No.

There's a reason for that. Yeah. That's right. You're the reason why they have those hotels. Yeah, I'm the dumb guy on the other side. So racing has gotten more analytical. More, yeah, very much. So, like, if you think about like this, the engineers,

they will look back over the last, say the last 10 Charlotte races. And even if the car is evolved and it's different, the trends, you know, if there's, if there's 10 laps run and the caution comes out, what is what has the leaders or what has been the most position gained? They have all these programs. Wow. They just type it in. So then the crew chief is setting on the box and the caution comes out. You know, he has to understand, he has like literally seconds to maybe a couple of minutes at most to understand what trends have always been the most successful at that point in the race.

And what we should start chasing at this point. And then the driver has to be able to communicate to the team how, on a scale of 1 to 10, how difficult his challenges are. And then they type into a computer and it says you should take a half a pound of air pressure out of the right rear. should take a little bit of wedge out. It's insane. I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's happening so fast. It's happening live fucking loud out there. And by the way, loud as fuck, by the way, uh, too loud. That's another story I've been preaching for about 20 years. Why does that have to be so loud?

Some ear plugs, no, is that what you guys do? I would, I thought that was going to be one of our questions. Why? What the hell? So here's what I think with you. This is what I think the meeting at NASCAR was like. Great question. You know, they rolled this car in and they started it up. And there was like 10 guys in Sportcoats. And it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

That sounds awesome. That's beautiful. We want that. They forgot to multiply it by 40. Right. And then they go out there and the cars are all making all this noise. And if you're a first time fan, you'll be like, this awesome. You hear it.

It's awesome. Are they going to keep doing that? Hold on. That's why it's going to be? Because I can't hear nothing. So I've been, the cars need mufflers, and anybody that would argue with that is an idiot. They just need to be, they just need to sound less offensive.

They're just waiting through up. So I'm stupid. Is that an easy, like, could that just be done? It could be done yesterday. I mean, make it quiet or what do we do it? They don't do it because the fans like the, The roar? They think they do.

Yeah. But the ones that like it the most probably can't hear that well anymore. Right. It's piercingly loud. Did you, Frankie, when you went, would you wear earplugs? You have to. Yeah, when we went down to the pit, you had to. If you took them off, you felt like you were going to pass out.

Right. Is that loud? No, it's offensive. So hopefully, though, I think they're going to run after my, tell you how much they listen to me, after about 20 years of saying this, I think they're going to run mufflers at the Coliseum. Wow. Just kind of test it out?

Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. That's something that gets on my nerves. How often does the best car win a race? Probably more often than not. But the problem is there's 20 cars that are like right there on the verge of being the best. And it's a pound of air pressure or a round of wedge. It's just one adjustment away from making that car. And then I like to tell people all the time too.

So some drivers can take their windshields are bigger, is how I like to explain it. So if their car isn't quite right, it's out on the right edge of the, or on the edge of the windshield, some drivers can deal with that. They can overcome it. And then some drivers,

their car winds up really close to perfect, and they can take it, you know, they can win then. but the difference in my opinion is the driver. Okay. Like there's so many great cars in that garage area. And when I say the driver, obviously he has to communicate with the crew to get the right adjustments.

But I would start with the driver and have him be the key part of the equation. And then his crew chief that he talks to as an engineers, those are all things that are hugely important as well. But you get one guy behind the wheel who's a different. conference maker, that's the most important. That was going to be my next question. Is it most important to have the best car or the best driver? Well, it's easy to build the best car. It's not easy.

But with science and technology, there's a lot of great cars. There's at least 20. That's one of the things that kind of bums me out about Formula One is you feel like there's only two or three cars that realistically win the race. So you're saying there's a lot more parity in NASCAR. Yes. You know, there's six, eight organizations that have all. all the resources, all the funding they need to go out and put the best car on the track. Now, that doesn't mean they're going to be able to necessarily accomplish that

because then they have to navigate between the rules of NASCAR and their creativity and the way they predict or simulate what they see goes onto the racetrack. Like, there's a huge plan put into play way before you see a car on the track. I was going to say, and that plan changes based every week. Yes, and based on what happened last week. Like we got our ass kick. What are we going to do? And then you, you, you, you, um, sometimes you have four cars on one team.

And do you, do you send them all four alike? Do you send them all four slightly different? They're all built alike. You, you, you assume. Um, and what does it take to make that, make the difference? And then at some tracks like Daytona, Talladega, with the draft and all the craziness that goes on with three wide racing, you know, a lot of times. just got to get lucky and miss a wreck or two

and then be in the right place at the right time. Yeah, I was going to say, so if it's windy out, are they going to change the car? No, but the driver understands it. You know, and the crew chief will be on the radio center. There's pretty good head breeze off too, you know, which means there's a tail breeze off turn four, and it's going to affect the way the car handles.

The driver just has to be cognizant of it and understand that that's what's happening. But they have a spotter on the top of the roof. I don't know if you've listened to much NASCAR, but that's insane. All the information these spotters are delivering to their driver. They're up top so they can see the whole course. And like your driver might be running third or fourth. And he'll say, fast car on the track is running lower on his entry to turn one.

And this driver's like, yeah, well, I don't care. Fuck him. I'm going to do what I do. And then he might be like, well, darn, I might ought to. You know, he take, I might have to, I might need to swing out more when I go in the corner. And so, uh, that's, that's a big part of it as well, communication between the crew chief and the spotter and the driver. And I imagine it's a, it's a preferential thing per driver.

Some probably don't want to take any of that information. Yeah. Back in the day, especially. Like, yeah, like I might say, shut up. Like, I need some space. I'm the driver. Yeah. But now I think, I think it's become more and more. They just, they take all that information and digest it makes the difference. And it helps them be better racers.

Wow. Something I've always found interesting about NASCAR is your guys arena is amongst cars, which is something we all experience every day. We're driving on a highway. We see cars like my windshield. I'm seeing almost a, like, I'm seeing a thing that is very familiar to you as a driver. When you're a professional golfer, your arena's out on a golf course. It's very specific to this area.

Do you ever like when you're driving on a regular street, Do something never like snap you or like brings you back to that time of driving a NASCAR? Like someone cuts you off and gets that juices going or something. Here's what's funny. What are y'all doing? I'm doing an interview. You can't call it that. I was talking about the guys that I golfed with today and what a pleasure it was.

But you're also a known liar. I don't remember being known as a liar. I don't think a liar would. I'm a little. That might have been a lie. So, yeah, it's just, it's just, you know, it's just really hard to explain to people how difficult racing a car in a circle is. Right, yeah. Because they get in their car and they drive to work.

And they're like, well, I do this. Right. And so they're like, I could do that. Right. But they also try to golf. And then they know they can't golf. off like Tiger Woods. You know, they can't hit a shot like Phil

Mickleton. They know that. Right. But they don't know that they can't drive. Right. Like the NASCAR boys do or the IndyCar Formula One. It's just such a, it's such a mental game. It's so, it's so precise and so tight. Right. It's just much

harder than people, I think, give it credit because they know when they watch football, they can't run, they can't jump, they can't tackle, but they're like, well, I drive to work. I could do that. What's the etiquette like when another driver ruins your race? Because, you know, we've all seen those clips of guys get out of the car.

Yeah, I punched a guy once. 92 and 95. I think he went straight fist to cups, right? Well, there's a few of them. So is it you can tell it when it's like a chief show. The funny one was I was at Bristol. And I got wrecked by this guy named Mike Dillon and it pissed me off. And I went after Mike Dillon.

And I hit him, you know, went like that. and he didn't budge. It was like hitting that tree. And I'm like, oh no. Mike Dillon was a big boy. He's country strong. I have made a mistake here because as soon as I hit him with all my energy and I bounced off of them, I was on the ground. And then I punched the guy that's on the internet.

The thing is 95. So, yeah, yeah. What happens? He just made me mad. You get fined? Yeah, 10 grand. A lot of money back then. Oh, no shit.

Yeah, that was a bad decision as well. But you can tell when it's like a cheap shot versus an accident. Well, he, I just got mad at him because it was, it was a dumb. Daniel King's just tossing T's any champ. Nice to see you. That's dangerous. You're going to poke an eye out. Give it some more height.

We're trying to be professionally conducted an interview. Yeah, more tradge. I don't know if you see the professionalism that we're exploiting over here. and so if you would if we love can build a bridge don't you think it's time don't you think it's time

I really wish I knew what song you were singing I was going to join in but I didn't have it. It was the Judds, Wyoming and Nevada. You don't got that one true? I don't have that one. Nothing. Hi y'all. Nice to see you. It feel good to punch somebody though after they wrecked it.

Like, I'm a punch this guy. I did. I punched him twice. Yeah. Cool. But he had his helmet on. And I'll tell you, like a lot of people don't know this, but he had on a full face helmet and a clear shield. And he had on a pair of gargoyles, the sunglasses gargoyles.

He had a pair of pink gargoyles on. And I leaned in, I was just going to tell him what an idiot I thought he was. And then I saw those glasses and I lost it. Start laughing. They just pissed you off. I just pissed you off. I have to punch this guy. He's got pink glasses on.

I just have to punch them. Yeah. Well, it's so much different than a lot of other sports. Like, we're big hockey fans. And when you get a playoff series and the teams play the same players over and over again, they always start to hate each other. You guys, you're racing against the same people all the time. Yeah.

You have to, like, those feuds have to just play. No, they're there. And, you know, everybody has opinions on who's an asshole and who's nice and who races right. But there's certainly an etiquette among the top drivers. like they're going to race each other next week just like you just said right so you can't be you can't be running over people repeatedly or it's there's going to be payback what do you think your etiquette was amongst the other drivers or like your how are you perceived yeah um i don't know i think you know pretty good at some places not so good at others i don't

think I ever really, I don't, I don't know. That's a difficult question to answer. In 2005, I believe, Robbie Gordon called you a piece of shit. He did. But didn't he end up joining your team years later? No. You guys. No. Okay. So you guys didn't get along. But we're friends now. Okay. So he's the heat of the moment. He ran me into the wall and so I wrecked him. And then he threw his helmet at me. And then he called me a piece of shit. Like one, does that decision happen where you're like, okay, this guy ran me into the wall. Now I'm going to ruin my race and his race. Well, I ruined his. You were still going. I didn't ruin mine. Well, that's as good. That's got to be the best feeling in the world. You got to make sure you're reason. You got a, you know, there's hundreds of people that work on your car. Yeah. You can't just be one person. You got to understand, you know, you're on a team and doing something to end your day just because you got mad isn't acceptable. Right. Because then the crew will be pissed at you. Right. Yeah. And that that won't go over well. Yeah, Robbie Gordon was a very talented racer and has won all across ever, so many different genres of racing.

So I respected him, but he made me mad that day. It's understandable. So I wrecked him. And then, oh, I forgot. Yeah, I got fine $10,000 for Punching Lake Speed. And I had to pay it. They called me in December and said, you hadn't paid your fine. yet before we'll issue your license for

2019 or 1990, whatever it was. We need that money. So I just tried to not pay it. And then with Robbie Gordon, they find me $10,000 for flipping them off. So I put, when he came to throw that helmet at me, I kind of, they said I did that.

But I just don't get weird. Danny was giving them three fingers. I said, you know, that I just was, I was just like, I don't know. But it, I went to an appeals committee and I got off of that 10 grand time. I think it was not clearly a. They should be paying you 10 grand because, like, we're talking about these are the things that people remember. Like having a fist fight, those are the best clips.

So they should be, that should be promoting the sport. I think they've, I think they've really loosened up over the last few years. They put up with more stuff. They're more tolerable with, with, you know, reaction and just emotion, which is nice, I think. Yeah, emotion's a good thing. You hear some funny story about my hat. I was just looking at that. I was dating this girl named Joy, and I got this hat because it's Joy and Mike.

No way. That's not true. I was at Denny Hamlins and Mark from Hootie, the Pro Am Jam. So it's a jam. What a horrible decision it would have been if it was Joy and Mike. And then if you were still wearing it. She broke up with me and I'm really not over it yet. I like her a lot.

And so I told her that I got 10 of these hats for the groomsmen for our wedding. Did she think it was funny? She thought it was funny. That's good. She's a good woman. But we broke up now. So I'm single. I still don't know.

I don't know if anything you've said to us is factual or truthful. That's true. Okay. You made a good point. Joy doesn't exist. Joy, is a real person? No way. Yeah, joy exists.

She lives near me. I mean, racing stuff I trust you. Now that we're off. She don't watch the internet much, so I don't think she'll hear this story. I think you're a catch. I think I do too. You know?

Vince Bonham play in a movie. I know. I want him to. I heard they're going to, I heard maybe that guy that played El Albus. Austin, Boston Butler.

He's going to play me. Yeah, he's a good, he's a good looking cat. Why do you find that so funny? I was young once, too, you know. It's like a royal rebel between Austin Butler, Brad Pitt, George Clooney. Everybody's like, all right,

Austin Butler played Elvis. And now he's going to play Michael Waltrip. Yeah. Wow, that's good stuff. I know. I think they're talking to him about playing me in my movie. That would be amazing. I know.

I can't wait. His I and DP movie. I can't wait to see his interpretation of me. He's pretty good at accents. He can nail it. Yeah. Man, that's good stuff. Well, we appreciate you stopping by.

Nice. Yeah, thanks for rapping. I see what you did there. You know, we've got a couple looks. You got it? You got anybody else? No, I think, you know, I don't want to keep you here. You just played golf.

How'd you play? I made two birdies. I never made two. Oh. I shot 89. My handicaps, uh, 15. So I would have had to be. a big day. If I did this tomorrow, I would have beaten half the field, I bet. For sure. The

birdies help a lot. Yeah, no doubt. Is this thing handicapped this week, by the way? No. Okay. You just get your scores. So, um, damn. Derek Lowe won last year, right? I think so. He's a good player. He's awesome. We're playing. We're doing like a baton pass. He's playing Thursday. He's playing Friday, Sunday. We're picking up where the guy left off. Nice. We're very nervous. You get it. You get it. You get it. You get a, you your own score? No, it's all one cumulative score. But I mean, you get a score. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got a team score. So is Barstool? Yeah. That's cool. What? The name of the podcast is for play. The one I'm on. Yes, sir. Yeah. You comfortable with that? It's a, it's a play on the pre-sex

joke, like the word for the things that happened before sexual intercourse, but it's also four. Does he think I'm an idiot? I don't know. He's the idiot. Don't worry about it. What is for play? Frankie, what's it? What's your favorite, Put it for play. Explain it. Kissing and scribes in. Robin, Patton.

All right. Petten. What about, how are you doing? That's part of it. It's got to start somewhere. That's pretty good right there, wasn't it? How you doing?

How you doing? Four play. All right. Well, nice to meet y'all. This has been great. This has been fantastic. Yeah. Let me know if you ever need me to come back during the,

the midst of the NASCAR season. I would love your updates. I don't have much going on. We've got that, we've got a NASCAR podcast, Rubbins'Rubbins racing. Yeah. Spider and, uh. Spider and larger, unbelievable. Spiders all in on it.

So, uh, they're fantastic. I'm sure you did it when you went to New York. Yeah. I'm actually talking to large. He wants us. How many of y'all are there? At the company? 400 employees now.

400. Doing, doing content. Probably 60 or 70. You do it? I don't know. Closer to 100. 100. Yeah, but 90 to 100 content people.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, sales and merchandise. We do a lot. We just do kind of golf and bullshit like this. Yeah, well, do me a favor. We do four play.

How you do? Do me a favor and give the folks at home an update on how I'm doing over the next four days. We will. We will. We absolutely will. A lot of people wondering. Two birdies around. You're going to be doing great.

My whole gig is to beat Larry the Cable Guy. Okay. You guys got a wager? Yep, a hundred a day. Okay. do we like our chances 100 oh yeah is his game

is he also a 15 last year probably last year I beat 10 people that was the most ever beat we were saying what a good gig Larry the cable guy has that he can just show up to any event just dressed however he wants

I know I saw him today that amazing thing to like have like last night he was wearing what tank top he was wearing tank top and flip rocks you show up to a black tie wedding and people would be fired up that he's dressed up like that we're pulling for you thank you have our

I can't wait to get started tomorrow. Usually, if you're wondering where I'll be, they send me off 10 at 8 in the morning so that by the time I get to the front nine, the good players are on the back nine. I've never walked by a TV stand that didn't have tarps over it. So the chances of me getting on TV are highly unlikely. Yeah, probably going to do that to us. I need to either chip in or make a hole in one or something. and hope they have just the, you know, when the camera's just rolling. Yeah. Just leave it on. Yeah. See a faint red light in the distance. Maybe somebody catches it on their phone.

I was going to tell you, I tell you that, to tell you this, that's the kind of guess you're attracting here. Good. People that won't get on TV. That's right at bar out. This is an audio medium. What do you think? What are, what am I? This is an audio medium.

We don't know what that means. You know what that means. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all right. You look like Justin Thomas. I do look like Justin. He does a lot of people say that. So we went to this sushi place in San Diego, Ken Sushi Workshop.

And we're sitting there and the chef comes out. I think his name is Ken. He owns a shot. Comes out. We're with the full swing launch monitor guys. They know him personally. So he's giving us a whole chef's table worth of sushi. We don't even know what he's bringing out.

It comes up to me. We find out halfway through that he thinks I'm Justin. Thomas. So he comes over. You got all that because he thought you were Justin Thomas? Yeah, he blesses me and says you're going to win a major this year. Yeah. And he did.

He did. He did. He did. He did. He didm. But you didn't win a major. I was going to say, what did that have to do with Justin Thomas? I'm just saying, I think in the universe, you were his prox?

Someone blessed this man to win a major and he did. Right on. Regardless of if it was actually, I may have just been his host, you know, not the brain. Right. Are we going to get Ken sushi next week? Yeah, absolutely. We've got to make a reservation now. It's in San Diego.

Wow. That's exciting. All right. Well, I guess I'll leave now. All right, Michael. I'd love to have you on again, honestly. This has been a real pleasure. Y'all, let me know.

Have your people get... I don't have people anymore. Have your people get a hold to me. We'll just get directly in touch. Smoke signals. We'll do... That's your joy. Yeah, we'll find joy.

I love you, Joy. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Michael, Walter. There's this other lady that's going to be really mad there. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha