Fore Play - Let Them Play: How It Happened

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

Huge show. We’re joined by Mississippi State women’s head golf coach Charlie Ewing (25:28) to talk through the debacle in Baton Rouge and the subsequent birth of the Let Them Play Classic. What led to the infamous staircase announcement? How did a program like Mississippi State first react to Barstool getting involved? How is the team preparing now? What is their excitement level like? Also, it’s a MAJOR WEEK. Trent, Frankie and Jake are at Kiawah Island. Who do we like this week? Who are our picks? Favorites vs dark horses? Lurch has played Kiawah — what’s he think? All this and, obviously, much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, tonight barstool sports. It is a massive week for the fellas. We're all over the country right now. We've got the LTP Classic. We've got the PGA Championship at Kiwa Island. Jake Bass, Trent Ryan, Frankie Borrelli, who I'm sure we're going to get to the islanders.

They are live from Kiwa that are on the island. Trent has like a tree behind them. I'm hearing a lot of stuff about tree houses. I just came for World Win Golf Club, where we will be hosting out of the clouds, a two-day college women's golf tournament to finish their season at the end of this week. So there's a lot going on. There's a lot to be excited about,

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So, big thanks to Owens. Go check them out. They're on Amazon. You can get that shit delivered right to you. That's what most people were doing. They're in a ton of retail stores now, Publix, Kroger's, all kinds of good stuff. So big thanks to Owens mixers. We're having a meetup. Yeah, we're having a meetup. Trent's just in the other room. We're screaming at each other now. We're trying to get the first word. And that actually was weird because it was very echoy, Trent. I see what you're saying. Appreciate it. Where's the place we're going to? Uptown social. Uptown social. If you're in the Charleston area, apparently it's the best place

in Charleston. So we're going to be going there. I think now this is me just spitballing out my ass, but I think like there's a transfusion night at the, is it the mud dogs? Is it the Charleston? River Dogs. River Dogs game. There's a transfusion night. And I think Josh from Owens is like throwing out the first pitch.

Now he offered for me to come and Trent to come throw out the first pitch. I politely had to decline because it's Islanders, it's Islanders game there. Like it is the, like it's Islanders game three. And I said, you know what, man? like I really appreciate that. I will be enjoying my transfusions at the meet and greet. We are going to just stay all day. I am going to get what they like to call Liddy Titty

because I'm going straight from PGA Championship watching with all of our friends. If you're in the Charleston area, you better come down. We are staying there. If you're not going to the River Dogs game, we're staying there and we're watching Islanders hockey in Charleston, South Carolina. I don't know if there's a big fan base, but I know I will create one. Wow. I will say, when I thought I was going to Kiowa, I declined that invite.

as well, but I was because I thought it was a careful calculation that it's a lose-lose for somebody like me to throw first pitch. Like, I'm a hockey guy. I can't throw. So if it were at like a fucking MLB game and the exposure is worth the potential risk, right, but we're talking a fucking ice river dog game where like the only thing that can happen is I fucking duck hook one into the ground and I get laughed at forever. I'm not doing that.

Now, like throwing out a first pitch was like a childhood dream of mine. I'm a huge baseball guy. I play my whole if I can barely lift my arm because of, of all the balls I've thrown. All those, shout out to all the water, shout out to all the waterlogged baseballs at the East Meadow.

Literally used to make us toss around that we all just have completely torn labrums and arms and elbows. But I would love to, but I can't, I can't as Frankie Burrelli, New York Islanders fan, in my right mind,

be standing there, tossing baseballs around at a minor league stadium while the New York Islanders play play playoff hockey at the Coliseum. So thank you, Josh. Thank you, Owens Mixers. I hope you throw a strike.

But when you're done with that, come back to what's the place called uptown social uptown social and we will be liddy titty off owen mixers yeah we're going to be there at four o'clock if you're in the charleston definitely come out and say what's up and drink some transfusions you know uh riggsie mike martine's oh yeah martin's great dude yeah i didn't know he was he's good friends was obviously uh uh owens mixer so he'll be there hanging out he was at wondering if i was going to be down there for the weekend so the first time i met josh from owen's mixtures and the way this whole thing started was through Mike,

aka Marty, as all his Prince called him, at the Super Bowl when we were there a couple weeks ago doing radio from the Super Bowl week in Miami. And we played around with Ryan McDermott, who's one of our best guys at our company, and Marty and Josh Ramon's mixers. And then he was mixing up and we were talking transfusions and Palomas, and the next thing you know,

we had our own drink. So, so yeah, you boys have fun at the little meetup. I'm jealous. I'm not going to be there. Things have changed dramatically, obviously, in the last three or four days. Jake Bass is now taking my credential. I'm going to be at the PGA championship. It is major championship week, but I don't know that we're going to start this show talking about a major championship. I don't think we can. We have a major championship on the horizon. What's transpired over the last, I'd say, 72 hours. I mean, maybe it's a little bit more than that, but it's actually preposterous what's happened. Things kind of just fall into

Barstools lap sometimes and what we're able to do and run with it is what no other company can't even replicate it, right? Like, we're able to just throw funds and, and the backing of all these influencers and all these people on social media behind something. And we can turn it into legitimately its own major. And what you're doing, Riggs is absolutely insane. Finding a golf course. I mean, go into it for anyone that doesn't know. Maybe people aren't on social media. So you can explain it better than I can. Yeah. So it's, it's been a whirlwind of four days now. I mean, we're recording on Monday. This all really started, I guess, on Wednesday night when that video went viral of the official coming down the staircase, the infamous staircase now in Baton Rouge

at LSU announcing that the golf course was playable but not championship level playable. And thus, the regionals for the NCAA women's golf championships were canceled and they were just going to go based purely off rankings in the top six of the 18 teams that had flown all the way down to Baton Rouge were going to advance to Greyhawk, which is happening this weekend out in Scottsdale, Arizona. There were a few people started to immediately ask questions. He just walked up, turned around, and just disappeared. And they started screaming and yelling.

There were videos and photos all over of the course and how it was actually playable. Yeah, maybe they'd have to move up some teas or they'd have to tee off from the fairway on some holes, but that it was playable. They all wanted to play. They'd flown down there with their families. A lot of them, grandparents had come down, parents had come down. Because as we know, like we all, played, you know, athletics to some competitive degree, high school, college, whatever it was.

And like that last game, when your season's ending, when your career is ending, like, it's emotional, there's flowers, there's pictures, there's, it's such a huge part of your life. And you put your blood, sweat, and tears into everything. It consumes your life. It's who you travel with. You're in the van. You're in the hotel room with all these people. And it's supposed to end a certain way.

And everybody knows that. supposed to end on the field, on the golf course, on the ice, wherever that is. It's not supposed to end with some fucking clown saying that the course is playable, but not championship playable in a viral video where people were screaming at him and he just disappears. I didn't know how much you were going to go into that announcement, but one of the all-time bad announcements in the history of human existence, just sort of meekly walking down those steps, putting his hand, which you did a great job replicating with your press conference.

Really good. And then them just turning around as people are screaming at them being like, let them play. And they're just like, all right, see you guys later. It was really bad. They were like the Ministry of Magic from like from Harry Potter where it's just like they come in this group. They announce this horrible thing and they kind of just go back into the darkness. Right. I couldn't believe it.

I was like one of the all time to Transpoint, worst announcements to everybody's point, like there's no more wrong side of the coin or wrong side of the equation that you could be on except with that announcement and how bad it was. But I think the only other thing that was worse than that, but they just announced it and just left. It was absolutely ridiculous. And so to capitalize on that in the barstool way, it's like you, Riggs and the team, like, you could be on the better side of the equation. Like, it is, it was preposterous. And obviously, it's such a good place now. And it went viral for all the wrong reasons. And it's tricky for us, right? Because trying to put on this event, we cannot throw the finger up at the NCAA because they have to sign off on it. And now we're getting waivers so that,

you know, the players can play as teams. So we're not looking at the event as like an FU to the NCAA. We're looking at the event as like, hey, it sucks that they didn't get to play. Do we think it was the wrong decision? Yes. Do we think they handled that conference horrifically? Yes. But we're not looking at the past. Like, we're trying to put on an event that's going to have, you know, these 12 teams playing in Phoenix. And then the next day, Saturday, the championship, kick off for the other teams in Scottsdale 30 minutes away, and we're all going to be celebrating women's college golf, and it's going to be great.

So that's kind of the angle that we obviously have to take. But my point is that the, and we're going to have the Mississippi State head coach on here barely soon. Charlie Ewing, he's awesome. But, you know, we're all tweeting about it, right? When that video went crazy, we were all tweeting about it, where you had to. And a few of the responses started to be like,

usually you guys should bring them to a Barstool Classic or host a Barstool Classic or invite these girls to a local, you know, whichever one's closest to where they're from so they can play. It started to get a little bit of steam. The wheel started to turn a little bit. And we were all together because we were in Southern California putting on a Barstow Classic Thursday morning. So, you know, myself, Lisa, Ian, the whole team that's there, Trisha, like we were all together.

And we started to talk a little bit about, well, then I get a text from Dave Portnoy at about 6 a.m. local time on Thursday morning that said, you know, you really should put on a tournament for these teams that got canceled. And I just said, like, you know, do we have, like, do we have kind of the backing and what we need? And he said, you have the full backing of basketball sports, like get it done. And so right then we called Erica, myself and Lisa Litvak, who runs all of our live events, all of our Barstall Classic events. She puts on Rough and Rowdy.

She puts on the pond hockey. She puts on when Spitting Chicklets does a live show, like she's fucking there. She was extremely into it. And I would say, fellas, like, we're very busy guys, all of us on this show. we've been we've had hectic crazy days especially a major championship where you guys are you know we put out like 10 sponsor videos a week that we put out we do two podcasts a week we're putting on 30 events across the country this year um we're just putting out shit all the time Thursday to like friday midday was the most hectic and crazy time of my life at barstool sports by far and it all

happened on a putting green overlooking the pacific ocean at monarch beach while we were putting on an event with 108 golfers drinking truilies and walking around all over the place and like asking like, Riggs, who the fuck you're talking to over there? And I was like, oh, I'm talking to a compliance guy. Mississippi State. The whole thing was ridiculous. But Barstool Sports, like working at a place like Barstall Sports, as we've all had these moments, is so unbelievably cool.

And sometimes it's because it puts you in front of Tiger Woods. Sometimes it gets you to a spot where the whole New York Islanders are eating dinner with you at Borrellys. like sometimes it gets you carrying out a luggage suitcase at at at you know in in in peru or wherever trent was like sometimes it gets lurch hitting a ball to four feet against pat Perez and sometimes it gets you where like we mobilized so many things in such a short period of time to put on a golf tournament that changed the next week and the whole ending of like 48 now girls college golf careers and we did it in like half a day and it was like it was crazy

and the amount of people that were into it, I called the Thunderbirds who obviously put on the waste management at Phoenix Open. My buddy Brent Talley, who's awesome. He was on a plane with 80 Thunderbirds on their way to Cabo to play a golf weekend. And he was like, we're on it. We're going to find a place like we're calling people.

Trune Golf, who owns a ton of golf courses, including Trune, where we played Pat Perez and a million other courses around. They were on the case, and they ultimately came up with Whirlwind. I got a call from Whirlwind that was like, hey, we've got to be. some tea times, but like we can move people around and we can do it and we're going to do it for

free. Like we're so behind this cause that we're not going to charge anything for the golf. So then we had a golf course, the compliance shit, dude. Like I got guys in my phone contacts now that like after after like six hours of texting nonstop, I actually had to be like, hey, what is your name by the way? Like I don't know. Like this guy called me from Mississippi State. He's this name Steve Smith. He's awesome. Great name. But he's like called me out of the blue kind of. We got his contact from the coach and was like, I'm going into a compliance meeting right now with like Mississippi State compliance office and the NCAA, I need, I got to ask you like 10 questions because I need to know what you're trying to do here. And then he goes into this meeting and fights on our behalf and then

comes out with answers. And then he and I are talking, the Purdue Compliance Department are talking. I've got like the captains of some of these teams that me and Lisa were doing Zoom calls with. So like just we're just been doing whatever the fuck it takes. And Lisa, let back, we all know, just like sent me an email the other day that was just like, I think it was yesterday. It was just like, like in 15 years of putting on events and working in this industry, she's like, this is the most fulfilling thing I've ever worked on. And it's been like, it's been crazy and, but it's been awesome. Like it's not stressful because it's hectic, but you're like, every note that comes in that's like presents another issue comes with,

thank you guys so much for doing this and like 10 exclamation points. So it's been nuts. I'm a cryer, so like this week, man, I'm obviously going to cry 10 times during the whole thing. These are tears for a while. These are tears on point that people get. These aren't tears leaving finers, which confuse the world. These ones make sense because it is fundamentally, I think, like, the best thing that we've ever done under this umbrella. Like, it's without question.

Power to you, power to the team of basketball sports. Like them announcing that when everybody's playing the same golf course is just basically the golf kind of, like, can lead us that like we don't understand and we push back again. So the fact that this happened, the announcement came, and then this whole tournament spun up behind it is so damn cool. The gear, everything is just so spot on. So these are where the tears make sense and where the public can get these tears because it truly is a feel good story of, no, your career should end on that last field, that last effort where you're pushed out of the game, not like someone's just like, no, no, you can't play this game that you played all your life. Like it's just over. Like that's not how

these things go. Right. It's, it's rare where you have a situation where one side is clearly the right thing to do. And this is just the right thing to do. Yeah, the NCAA, they fumbled it. Like, I know you guys are working with them now and we don't want to say whatever, but like, it was just the right thing to do. And I honestly think that Barstool Sports is the only company on the planet that could do something this quickly. Like when Dave and Erica say you have our full backing, they fucking mean it. And they will just give you everything you possibly need. And Riggs, like, you're obviously great at putting tournaments together. You've been running the classic like a motherfucker these last couple years. And so when you combine those forces

and it's the right thing to do and people want you to do it, it's just the best possible scenario. And it seems like we're going to pull it off and it's going to be incredible. Yeah. Also, kudos to like the golf community also, right? Like I feel like golf in general is the only kind of sport that would have people rally together like this. Like finding tea times and golf courses like everyone just wants people to play at some point. They love the game. They want to promote the game and when you find like that that that niche of people or that group of people that riggs has gotten in his phone book where like everyone just wants to help out and like and get it done like sometimes like you know you find these like rich assholes on golf courses

and like we have all these perceptions of people in golf but like sometimes these guys that own these golf courses or the thunderbirds that put on these they're like the nicest people in the fucking world that genuinely want to like promote the game and help people help the little guy or the little girl in this in this uh in this situation and it's going to be fucking awesome for these people that they're like you said a million times that they're not ending their careers in a parking lot uh from a bunch of weirdos on a on on steps telling them you have to go home now it's over so i'm very excited for it uh i wish we were there i can't believe this is all happening in the same week like me and trent were just sitting in the airport like how are we not going to be at

that tournament but then like you have to like step back and be like it's the fucking pGA championship also like i just don't know how this all happened it's crazy crazy that it's all happening in the same day. But that's also Barstool. Like fucking Dave is in 15 different states at once. So that's just the way we kind of operate. It is, man. And like, dude, Dave's been texting me every day.

Like, what's the, what's the commitment list? Who's committed? What's the deal? You know, Quinnipiac was originally a no. And then they reversed. And he saw, like, me post and he's texted me like, oh, but it be flipped. And I'm like, yeah.

And he's been like, he's been very glued into the whole thing. Erica's been calling me every day. And, uh, and yeah, I mean, to get all that stuff done, right? Like, dude, we had the merch department, like, mobilized and fire. And also. The merch is fire. The logo, obviously, like a less important note, the logo when it first came out is just incredible.

Who made that? Who had our company made that? So, dude, we sent it to graphics, right? And so it was actually me, me and Tricia. So Tricia basically works underneath Lisa at the classic. And I was like, I think just LTP like a Dodgers. or like St. Louis Cardinals style logo would be fire. And the first one that they did,

they actually kind of nailed it, but it was a little too like masculine. It was like Blocky and Lisa and Trisha were like, we just need to make it like a little bit more feminine. And I was like, I don't know what that means, but you're right. My forehead.

So then they sit back like another rendition. And literally like within an hour or two of us requesting it, it was we saw that one. And I was like, that's it. That's perfect. And then they put the circle around it with like a little green and just nailed it.

And we had a bunch of renditions and, and they just nailed it. But like we had to, we had to get the graphics department fired also. We had to get the merch team firing. We had to get the business team because they had to get sponsors to raise the money to pay for all the expenses for all of the players. We had to get the finance department to like figure out how much it was going to cost

and can we get that money. We had to get our legal team. Our poor guy Paul, who Erica said has been a lawyer for us for a cup of coffee, where all of a sudden like, hey buddy, grabbing it by the neck. And we're like, answer all these fucking questions about NCAA compliance. And he's like, Jesus Christ.

So we got like the legal team on it. The events team is obviously all over it. And then our golf branch has been, you know, all over. We got to get social teams out here. We got to get the production teams out here to cover it. So, but everybody's just been all in. It's been really, really cool. And again, the, you know, like we were on a,

we and Lisa were on a Zoom call Saturday morning at like 7 a.m. 8 a.m. with four girls from Oregon State who had like 20 questions about everything before they could commit. And, you know, like they're college girls, right? So they're like, they're curious, they're inquisitive. They were ready. They were very prepared. And we answered them and chatted with them.

And they were all very confident. And then at the end, they did a very heartfelt like, I can't express like how much this means to us. You know, what you've done. And I just text Lisa. I was like, I have to get off of Zoom calling. I'm going to just start crying. Water works. We lost your picture.

I don't know. Sal Regsy there. Yeah, right. No, my bad service. I'm good. I'm just like doing push-ups and stuff. Don't worry about it. So, yeah, it's going to be like, if you think I cried just leaving Pineshurst,

imagine what's going to happen at this golf course the next couple days. So it's going to be awesome. Now we're trying to focus on putting on an event. And we're going to have on here in a few moments, the coach from Mississippi State, who is awesome. and like one of the people I've leaned on because like we've never run a college women's golf tournament for. So now all of a sudden we're putting on like their finale tournament that's going to have all the eyeballs, more eyeballs than they've probably ever had on it.

And so, you know, understanding like how many people should we invite, how do you guys usually travel, how many rounds should we play? Should we do 36 both days? Should we do 36 one day? Do they get to have carts? What's the format? What's the team format going to be? All of that stuff has been.

been like we just have to talk to people because we don't know. And Charlie from Mississippi State, like I said, has been awesome. And I know he's got some stories from being there on site because the things that happened in Baton Rouge were crazy. Nobody saw that video and just thinks like, oh yeah, that was just that was it. It was just the surface. That was clearly just the surface of some crazy shit that had to be going on. So I'm very excited to talk to him. But yeah, it's going to be wild that this is all going to be happening while you guys are also down. at the PGA Championship with a very select few media members

that have credentials to this. Right. That's the one thing that I think like, you know, I kind of just like had to take a step back and be like, yeah, we have to go to PGA because one of the things that's really important for us as a brand is just being on site, right? Like today, like we saw Steinberg and Seth Waz on the plane. And it's just like for us as barstool sports,

the idiots that talk about golf on this podcast that somehow put together this incredible tournament that we just got talking about. and like all the stupid things that we do, the fact that we're able to be inside the ropes at a major championship helps us just grow our brand so much that like things that may not necessarily be on video or talked about or blogged about helps us like get the Justin Thomas videos or the or the potential interviews or the Rory Macaroys of the future. So we do we're going to be boots on the ground, but we do have Charlie in here. I see that he just joined the Zoom. So I want to make sure we don't ignore that. No, we got them.

We got to be a weird ignore. I'll say that. Imagine we just did the whole show and just Charlie just had to listen to it. To see if he would interject or not, just the most bizarre thing of all that. That would be a good bit. Just invite someone that we kind of don't like and just never actually unmute his mic. Old man media, just bring him in and just never unmute him. The day we get Ian Polter, you guys just never talk to him.

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I mean, other than about the foot of high. difference. I mean, my dad, my dad's actually five, five and a half. So I think that right there just goes ahead and shuts down everything about and there's not an athletic bone in anybody in the Ewing family, this Ewing family. So I mean, I imagine you guys got to be pretty much packed to get ready to go, right? Yeah, so we're, we're basically today was our day of making plans. You know, the NCAA waiver kind of made a big deal on what our plans were going to look like.

as far as actually booking the plans, it wasn't going to affect our participation, but as far as actually making plans work and stuff, that was a big deal. So this morning, our compliance officer, Steve Smith, literally was sprinting down the hallway to come tell me that that waiver had cleared from the NCAA and how excited we were to be able to travel out there as a team. And so we got our plans finalized. We're in the packing process and ready to go. And, I mean, you got to tell them what that meant for your travel plans because it's pretty

baller. Yeah, so we have a pretty awesome university. Mississippi State loves to step up and support the athletic program. So we're going to be stepping on to the private jet tomorrow morning, flying out to Arizona, playing a few days, private jet back home. That's good living. That is so cool.

That's good vibes in the way of the tournament. It is. There's no other way we'd want to do it, that's for sure. That's so awesome. And it is. It's a big, big school. that's got a lot of powerhouse programs. And so, yeah, I mean, it makes a lot of sense.

We were just kind of going over it, and I wanted to go over it, you know, with just our crew before someone that was actually there so we could kind of give our take, just what happened. But we weren't down there. We weren't in Baton Rouge. You know, you were. All we saw was the video,

and then we all read a few articles and a few quotes and saw pictures of videos from some of the players and some of the coaches. But from your perspective, you know, like, What really led up to that video and what happened in that video? Yeah, so, you know, unfortunately, there's a lot of questions that we have that are still kind of unanswered of really, you know, what was going into the decision, where that decision came from. But, you know, going into the weekend, looking at the forecast on Thursday, Friday, there was no secret that it was going to be a wet golf tournament. And really being, you know, being a college golfer myself and a junior golfer and then coaching college golf and, you know, my wife playing professional golf.

Being around golf so much, I mean, the weather is something that impacts every single golf tournament. So you look at a forecast like that. You see, you see how wet it's going to be. And you really don't do anything other than prepare yourself for a wet golf course. So the conversations that we have as a team are, you know, we might have some. on and off play. They might call us off the golf course for lightning. They might send us back out.

You might have pools in the fairways. You might have a little bit pooling on the greens. But it's really just a preparation for not perfect. And so that's really what it was leading into Monday. But on Sunday, we had perfect weather for the practice round. And, you know, in hindsight, I know there was a little bit of conversation that came up. But in hindsight, you know, Sunday was a day that we really wished we could have utilized as you know maybe get in the practice run in the morning, play that afternoon.

You know, whether, I don't know if that is allowed right now for the NCAA, but there's definitely something that should be allowed going forward, just that flexibility to play. But, you know, we get to Monday morning and the forecast was spot on. It was dead on what was supposed to be. And it's raining that morning. And so we never left the hotel that morning. And we just keep getting, you know, update after,

update and then finally it gets to noon and golf is called for the day and and it was really it was really disappointing and it was really frustrating for it to be called at noon because the forecast did show that the morning was supposed to be pretty messy as far as the weather goes but the whole afternoon was going to be high of 85 sunshine and you know and we were we were ready to play in that so that that was a little that brought up a lot of questions in our head of you know how how in how intentional are we about getting this golf tournament in? And how much effort are we really putting into getting this golf course going? So we're really just confused.

So we spent the afternoon at top golf kind of a way to, you know, kind of be entertained, but also get a little bit of practice in at the same time. Forecast comes in on, you know, for Tuesday, it's going to look just like Monday. And after Monday, there really wasn't a ton of optimism that Tuesday was going to get in. If Monday was deemed to be unplayable, then Tuesday surely would be deemed to be unplayable because it's the same forecast, but a little bit wetter golf course. You get to Wednesday a little bit more of the same. So there's really just not a lot of optimism the later we get into the week about what the,

you know, how much golf we were going to be able to get in. And then, of course, just the what really triggered the most questions and the most frustration was there at the end when the golf course was deemed to be playable, but we didn't play any golf. So we really sit here having a lot of questions. But, you know, of course there's, you know, you kind of turn those questions into, you know, what can we do now to prevent this from happening in the future?

You know, because you can't fix it now, but it's not something that you want anybody ever have to go through again. So that's kind of where we stand now of trying to figure out, you know, how can we better the, you know, the manual and the process, make sure it doesn't happen again? what has been the process of trying to get those answers, right? Because for me, you know, having worked hard to put all this together with a lot of different

people, it's like people have questions all the time. And we just fucking answer it. It's like it's really not. If somebody has a question, we just answer it. It's really not that complicated. And if we don't have the answer, we send a quick note and say, don't know that right now. Let me get on it. And then you try to come up with the answers.

So, you know, now it's been half a week. it's been five days or four days since then, you know, what has that process been to try to get answers? So really, you know, what it starts with is, I think it's very fair to say that the NCAA has, they've taken notice of what happened. And, you know, in this whole process, you know, that kind of goes into what's happened with this,

this let them play tournament coming up this week is they actually have been responsive to, to, and, an understanding of the situation. And I think that's number one. It's just for every party to be willing to work with each other and be understanding of each other, rather than it being a finger-pointing contest or just bashing and ripping.

So that's something that we've seen a good response, I think, on all lens. There's been a ton of support for women's golf. So I think that's the first step. But here, I know we have access to, you know, to communicate with the NCAA. and those that oversee men's and women's golf and have, you know, get those conversations going about how can we change the manual, change the process and change the procedures that can help this be

something that doesn't happen again. And I think it's really important. What I'm really hopeful for is for the coaches to be involved, the ones that are at the college tournaments every single week, you know, week in and week out at, you know, 10 or 12 golf tournaments a year to kind of talk about the things that, that, that, we see throughout a bunch of different terms that see a bunch of really bad weather and see just kind of the different ways to cope with those types of things aren't how to make them the best out of a situation because we play an outdoor sport

and we played on sometimes hundreds of acres. So to expect things are going to be perfect, it's just not realistic. So you just have to have the ability to be flexible to make sure that when things aren't perfect, you can make things right. Right. And look, that's definitely the right approach. Undoubtedly, it is, yeah, I know like when we first started mobilizing on Thursday and you and I first started speaking and we started talking a lot of them, folks, a lot of the immediate feedback was, like, there's no way that the NCAA is going to work with you on that. There's no way that they're going to sign off or you're going to be able to get approval that quickly. So it does, it does,

I think showed that they have since then, like you said, they've had to respond and they have and they've had to have meetings, you know, with Steve Smith and with the Purdue Compliance Departments and with our, you know, legal representation. And they have and they've gotten the waivers in place, which is all you can do since then. And, you know, we were talking earlier about how the fact that like, yes, that was probably the most preposterous announcement I've ever seen in my entire in my life. I think like you can't help but just laugh at how how bad it was. Like how can you possibly handle an announcement that way?

Like did you stand in front of a mirror and practice it at least? Like how did you like how do you do it that badly? I would also I would also argue that there was no way that the NCAA couldn't work with you guys at a certain point, right? Because the PR like the bad PR was so bad that if they tried to not allow girls to play in the Let Them Play Classic, then you're just like, you're even more the evil empire. Yeah. And like, and one of the things, so, you know, we were, we had started about, we get to the

Barstall Classic around 6.30 a.m. and we started talking about it. And there's people arriving and we're putting on an event in real time. And we're talking to Dave and Erica and we start reaching out to coaches. And we talk to Charlie. And I, you know, and about maybe an hour and a half later, around like nine or so, I just said to Lisa, I'm like, I'm just going to tweet it into existence. I said, I'm just going to, I'm just going to tweet it. I think if I just tweet it, then it just becomes real. And so she was like, I love it. And so that's pretty much what I did. I just was like,

I'm just going to tweet that we're doing it. And then we don't have a choice to go backwards. And amazingly, like, I think that turned out to be an incredibly strategic thing because it picked up so much momentum that, you know, we started to be able to get in touch with coaches, with players, compliance offices. And it said a lot of things in motion. But, but, you know, it's amazing how, I guess to me, having now been through it for three or four days and seen how far we've come, it's amazing that other options just weren't figured out, right?

Because, like, you can just figure it out. It's not that crazy. There's golf courses everywhere. There's ways you can manipulate the course or tweak it or do whatever you have to do to just let them play. Like, you just got to let them play because everyone's there. The families are there. Grandparents came down.

Parents came down. It's going to be, you know, potentially a lot of them, their last time competing. You can't just not let them play. You just can't. Yeah, and that's what's really tough to swallow is, is especially you look at the course of the season. And you look at really any collegiate sport. And maybe college football might be the exception where they,

they just choose the best of the best to compete in the in the playoff. But everything else, you spend the entire postseason, you're working for that bid into your NCAA postseason tournament. And that's what we did. We spent the season and we earned a ranking that got us that invitation in the postseason tournament. And when you get there, the slate's white clean. You have a three-day golf tournament. You have 54 holes.

And the best six teams at each side are going to be the ones that advanced to the national championship. So you have 18 teams and six individuals that are just chomping at the bit for this opportunity that you've spent the entire season looking forward to. And then all the sudden, snap of a finger, really for the second year in a row, COVID last year. And now this year with, you know, there's kind of what happened last week. You're for the second year in a row, you can't complete your season. And so you just, you just look at your seniors, but you look at your entire team because whether if you look at it through the lens of a senior, you know, your career's over. And fortunately, it's it now it's not.

You know, their career is not over. We could go play golf in Arizona and we get to compete one more time as a team. But every team is different. So every year is a new team. You have seniors that leave and you have freshmen that come in. So even the freshman, sophomores, juniors are going to look around at who's in that hell of your team and the faces are going to be different next year. So, and I'm going to look around.

It's going to be different faces that are in that group and in that family. So you're going to look at every single year entirely unique and very separate of each other and remember the emotions and the experiences that you had within each year. And now for the second year in a row, you just look back at a year that ends in a way that the golf didn't decide how the year ended. And it's tough to swallow. And you really just feel for those student athletes because my goals and aspirations as a coach, are to go to regionals year after year after year. And I hope I have dozens of invitations to regional golf tournaments.

But as a student athlete, you get a maximum of four opportunities. And a really good career is going to consist of multiple opportunities. And when you can't compete in one of them or two of them, you really just want more for the student athletes. And you just, especially seeing as hard as they work, you just want them to have that opportunity to let their golf clubs decide, you know, their fate at the end of the season. The Bush and now Wingman is one of the greatest additions to my golf bag,

probably in the history of me playing golf in my entire career. The Wingman, if you don't know what it is, it is a GPS distance, audible distance feature speaker. It's got premium sound quality so you can enjoy your favorite tunes on the course, so whenever you want out there. And then you keep this thing that's like a ballmarker in your pocket, you press a button, and it just audibly gives you the front, back, and middle to the green. on that hole you sync it up to the bushnell app so it gives you maybe the most underrated part of it is on your phone it just gives you a bird's eye visual of the hole so if you've never been to a course

before you just look at that you hit a button and it just tells you the distance to the front back of middle it's awesome yeah it's the ultimate thing to have on the golf course um you know actually it was my girlfriend's dad's birthday and we got him one because he was like looking for watches and range finders and all these things and he's a big music guy. And I was like, man, this is just like, at the end of the day, it's so perfect because you don't have to like wear anything. You don't have to worry about any of that stuff like on your body. You're legitimately, you're entertaining the person in your cart with music. And then you're also getting the perfect yardage, front, middle and back with this little clicker in your in your pocket. And it's such a showstopper. It's such a conversation starter.

Like being able to do that on the course makes you look cool. It makes you look hip, especially for an older person. It's like, oh, look at this technology. It seems like you're doing so much. Meanwhile, you're just pressing a button. So it's the ultimate gift to get. And I honestly, it's changed my experience on the golf course because it's just the music quality is so freaking good that I actually use it at home too. Like, I'm in the shower and I legitimately brought into the bathroom and just like- Oh, that's a really good visual, Frankie. I know. Anytime I'm taking clothes off is not good for ad reads because it just gets nasty. And, gets like sick, but what I want to tell you is that the base factor out of these speakers is

really good when you have those reverb actions in the shower. Nothing like a good shower reverb. You ever give a good shower whistle? Oh, man. It's the only speaker though that has like the magnet. So you just slap it on the side of the cart and like it's perfect where you got to waste a cup holder or whatever and it's bouncing around the whole time. It's got like an industry proof magnet and you just slap on It's out of the golf. Can't be wasting cup holders out there. You can't be wasting cup holders. Magnet's all my fucking mind, man.

Oh, boy. Whoa. Bushnellgolf.com slash four. Go get your speaker today. I had to cut Frankie off there. We'd be here for another 30 minute. Bushnellgolf.com slash for, go get your speaker.

Yeah. And, you know, I know you were on the fire pit with Matt Janella, who's a good buddy of mine, and he and I were talking about just deeper. And people should go listen to that when he puts it out because he does a deeper dive into the stories. a really good storyteller.

But one thing that I didn't even really realize is, he was talking about your guys program and Houston and some of these other programs that, you know, like, you guys could make a serious run at national championships. Like it's, you know, and so to have this regional be decided by just who was the rankings,

like, talk a little bit about, you know, A, the rankings are less meaningful than they've ever been because of COVID and kind of the limited amount of golf that's being played. And it's in no way is it like the top six teams in those rankings just automatically advanced. That probably never even happened.

So talk a little bit like your program and these other programs, you know, now the 11 different schools and the individuals of resets are like, you guys are really good programs that could easily advance. And then once you get to match play in national championships and could win the whole thing. Yeah. And we're coming off a performance at our conference. championship where we finished runner up and we lost in the finals at the SEC match play. So we were a team coming in with a lot of momentum. We went into the tournament as

a 12 C out of 14 teams. And so we, the SEC is obviously a very strong conference, but we're basically, we're exactly what you're talking about, a team that's that cannot wait to get to the postseason because the slight's white clean, we have momentum, we're ready to go compete and ready, we're ready to go do again what, you know, what we know we can do it. perform the way we know we can perform. And you see it every year at March Madness. I mean, that's the only reason that March Madness is what it is, is because you have the 12s beat in the fives.

Every single year, there's one or two, 12s that beat the fives. So you get to where that slave swipe plane. And ultimately, you're looking for the best teams in the country, but we all know how it goes. The hottest teams are going to be the ones that, you know, that they're holding the trophy there at the end. And we were hopeful that we could be that team or one of those teams that found ourselves in the mix of it.

And, you know, of course, you know, now we'll, we'll never find out what this team was capable of accomplishing that postseason. But yeah, you're exactly right. You know, so much can happen. And especially the way that golf is set up now with match play, match play is, it's just unlimited fireworks. I mean, it's, anything can happen. And it is absolutely a blast to compete in,

compete in match play and watch match play. And I think that's been such an attraction to college. golf over the last couple of years is conference championships and national championship going to match play. So, so yeah, I mean, you're exactly right that you get to this point of the season and the teams that are hot are just, you just can't wait to get out there and peg it because you know that your opportunity is right there and you want to go take it. God, next year I'm going to have to do a match play tournament. We just got to do a match play tournament. God, that's right. But yeah, yeah, that's what

everybody who doesn't know. I mean, when you make it to national championships, there's rounds of stroke play that determine the seeds. And then once you get to, what is the last eight teams that are the top eight teams, it's match play. And anything can happen in matchplay. So now all of a sudden, you know, you're in Scottsdale, you're at Greyhawk, you're playing match play against any of those other seven teams and you could win the whole thing.

And that's all just ripped away. So now talk about kind of the process of the, you know, the LTP and how we got to this point from your vantage point because I've told a lot of the story about, you know, what all went down from my perspective. I'm really curious from, you know, a head coach at an SEC large program perspective of, you know, first hearing about it, initial thoughts on it, communicating it to your girls,

getting it approved by your school, and try to talk through that whole process. So it's funny hearing you talking about just tweeting it into existence because when that, when you sent the tweet, I'm getting screenshots of it from our players and from other people in the coaching world. And as soon as anybody sees a statement like that from anybody affiliated with Barstool, it's like, okay, that's no joke, that's for real. And that was my response to like, wow, barstool's in this.

Something's about to happen. Because I know it's, you all don't mess around with that type of stuff. And you see just the impact that that y'all have. in a bunch of different ways. I was like, okay, this, there's a bunch of people that could say, hey, you know, you could, somebody should throw a golf tournament

and you're just going to scroll right past it. But this is like, okay, this is for real. Let's see what, let's see what can really come from this. Because these student athletes deserve something. And it looks like somebody really willing to step up and support it. So when that started having, a lot of chatter starts going.

My first reaction was, let's, let's be a part of this. Because there's been an incredible response to, what happened last week that has created a lot of positive support for women's golf. And if we're just going to be honest here, women's golf is not something that is in the center of media attention across the sports world. And when we can get positive support like this on a nationwide platform, it's really, really exciting.

So this has been, of course, are we glad what happened? happen. No, of course not. But the response to it has been, you know, kind of a silver lining. And it's been something that I think it has a really great impact in women's golf for the long term. So we start thinking about those types of things that, you know, there's a lot of really good people that are stepping up to support women's golf right now. And that's something we want to be a part of. So, you know, pretty quickly, you know, I'm sliding into Riggs DMs, you know, trying to figure out how to how to get this thing going. And I'm just like, hey, you know, I'm in college. college golf. You know, if I can be a resource of any kind, let me know. So, you know, we connect pretty

quickly and I'm reaching out to our compliance department pretty quickly. And I'm telling them basically, you know, my thoughts of, you know, when, you're kind of just saying the same thing. When Barstool gets involved, it's no joke. So there's really a reality. We need to be prepared for this to become a reality. And he said that, well, if it's going to become a reality, we're going to be a part of it. And we're going to do everything we can to make sure that the student athletes at Mississippi State are going to be right in the middle of this thing and participate. And so the response was incredibly supportive from, from our athletic department. Our student athletes were, you know, a lot of our student athletes are fans of a bunch of different,

you know, Barstall platforms. And it's something that they wanted to be a part of, not just, you know, not just for the reason that, you know, Barstall wants to do something, but it's also, you know, be a part of that response that's positive support for women's golf where we can help, we can help things move forward. And if there's a way that we can help create, positive change in our game, then we want to be a part of that. So there's all those types of emotions going on.

And then every minute that goes by, it seems like, you know, the details come in and the support comes in a little bit stronger. And you start to realize, okay, well, it sounds like there might be a golf course secured. And these teams are tweeting about it as well. And now you've got all these teams that are starting to jump in and buy in. And it was just the domino effect. It's like once one or two, from my perspective, it seemed like,

Once one or two teams got in, then there was a third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and I mean, this thing just snowballed into something. And now the student athletes are pouring in more and more. So it's just the last five days, the last four or five days, you know, with the involvement of this LTP classic have been absolute madness. And it's been the coolest thing seeing it all come together. Because I didn't think a golf tournament could come together in seven days before the first tea time. But it's happened.

and it happened in four days, and it's been really, really special to be part of it. And everybody here is just absolutely thrilled to be a part of it to be able to participate in this tournament and celebrate together one last time as a team and let those seniors have that last walk-up 18th fairway. When you talk about how important a barstool tweet is in the world that made me just rethink a lot of the times I tweet about like growing man boobs and stuff, like I really need to take a step back and realize that there are people out of that. that they're like, hold on, this means something right now. Let me see this tweet and then they see a picture of just my like jiggle face. Are the girls like jacked up for this like for the actual competition? Like are they going to go there and try and win this thing or is it more of like a celebratory

end to their career or season? We have a very competitive team. It's a, it's a little bit out of control. So we have a team that is very, very excited for the competitive aspect. And that was something that was such an exciting thing about this NCAA waiver getting passed is saying that they can go out there and compete as a team. And so everybody is really, really excited about getting out there and competing. And I can assure you that regardless of how anybody feels about the competitive, the competitive aspect of it right now, when you get out there on the golf course, you're not going to be able to help it. I mean, it's going to get very, very competitive. And I know our team's not even trying to shy away from that. We're going out there to compete and

play as well as we can as we can in this golf tournament because, If we have opportunity to tee up and represent our program, then we're going to do that to the best part ability. Yeah, totally. I mean, the eyeballs on this thing, like you're saying, it is a silver lining. It's a blessing in disguise almost where it's like the eyeballs on this golf tournament are preposterously different than what they would have been prior, right?

So it's like, I mean, you've got every Barstool fan America on the edge of their seat to see who's going to win the LTP classic. Like, it's just like they, the scope of this is times a. billion now. They are under the, the bright lights now, which is freaking awesome. I mean, I have JJ Watt DM me about this thing. I had Anika

Sorenstan DM me about this thing. I had Michelle weed, DME today about this thing and said, how can I help? And those are just three to name hundreds. So I had Alex Colloran, the Tampa Bay Lightning. They won yesterday, the first round game. And he texts me out of the clouds

an hour after the game and just said, dude, whatever's going on with this LDP is awesome. can I help with it. So like people people are supporting it like crazy and and we're very focused. I was at the course all day today with Louie and Drew and the staff up there and they are they are treating this as big as they can. They have like a plaque where they think they've put like a little walkway and they put plaques up for all their big championships they've had and they're like we're going to have to add a plaque for like the LDP of whoever wins this thing. So kind of the things have shifted to,

to, okay, we're not going to take a victory lab just because it happened. Like, we're going to make it special. And we've got a lot of pretty cool things playing, like the partners that have come on are taking all the steps that they're allowed to take and that they can possibly take to make it really special. And it's been, you know, it's been interesting to hear and see a lot of the girls, the young women now posts and videos. of them swing because like it's a grind.

Like they're they're not just like oh we're going to show up and have fun. Like they're here to win a golf tournament, which is, which is what they've been working towards for a year or five years or however long they've been, you know, at school. And it's very funny to hear you talk about the domino effect because I, I sent some very rude emails to some people in graphics and in other places that I was like, I don't have fucking time to wait. Like we need to let people know that people are signing up for this thing.

because if they know they're going, and they're going to say, well, if that school's going, we got to go. So it was like that I could sense that those things were happening. And it was like if we missed the window, then, you know, their best player gets on a plane and goes back to her home country and their team can't come. And so all these things were happening so fast.

And Charlie, you've been huge, man. Like I've leaned on people, you know, throughout this thing that I didn't know existed until, you know, Thursday morning. And you've been huge. Steve Smith's been huge. from your compliance office and the visual that you gave like of him running you know literally running through the hallways trying to get these announcements in about the the the approvals and the waiver processes it's it's just been crazy man it's been it's been hectic but I described

it is like hectic but not stressful you know because it's been it's been a positive thing that just keep delivering good news since basically obviously the bad news but ever since then it feels like we've kind of somehow been able to get a little win after little win that's going to make this a pretty cool event. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I think, you know, what you'll touch on is you see the, how many people are taking interest in this, whether it's the, you know, 10 plus million followers on Instagram of

Barstool and J.J. Watt and stuff. And what all that is is, it's positive attention and positive support that's coming to, you know, these student athletes that work so hard. and you know, into women's golf at the collegiate level. It's really, I wish y'all could, you know, really seemfully understand, you know, how much that means to us and how much it means these student athletes. Because a lot of these golf tournaments we play and you can go win a golf tournament.

And it's just the next day, it's just kind of on to the next thing. But just to right now, there's this continual focus on how, on the betterment of women's golf. And it's really, really special. And I hope you all really understand how, grateful and thankful the collegiate golf world is right now for what's going on because it's having

an incredible impact. You're going to make me cry, Charlie. I can't have this. It's Monday, man. I can't be crying on Monday. Those tear ducts are going to be empty by Wednesday and Thursday. You're not going to have any tears left.

Too early in the week, brother. It's too early in the week for that. Just wait until you see a senior finish their career. I mean, there's not going to be a dry eye in the house. I can assure you. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Charlie, you said something,

our players are going to be so fired up and go flag it. What was your line? There was a good line. Pegging. Sticking the peg in the ground. We got to get that on a shirt. LD. It's such a good line.

Women's golf is sick. We've talked about that a lot. Once you take distance out of it, they're just like extremely incredible golfers that would beat us all any day of the week. Right? Like ladies golf is far. fucking awesome.

And the fact that they're going to go out there and compete and like peg it and just hit absolute rocket ship drives and just darts onto the green. Like the competition is there. Like I was having that talk this weekend with a couple of my friends where I'm like, dude, this is actually going to be like the best competition that Barstall, like Barstall Classic has a bunch of fucking idiots playing it. This is like real fucking competition of girls who know how to play golf. Right.

Like actual golf is going to be played in a Barstle tournament, which for us, is just as valuable and awesome as it is for their, for like their sake, right? Like for us, like we are actually hosting a real tournament. And to us, like, we should be just as proud on our part,

uh, that we have these girls that are this, this talented and this devoted to the game that are actually playing in a barstool event. Like we should be thanking them for like actually coming to us. Like, that's crazy if you really think about it. Like like barstool sports is actually getting these collegiate athletes to like, like trust us to come and play in a tournament.

Like we're actually at that level where we can accept that. That's crazy to me. I don't even think we deserve that. That's insane. Well, I can't wait for, for y'all and everybody to really see them play because it's, it really is special. There are some, there's some absolute talents. And there are some really, really good players.

And the more you follow the LPJ tour, there's going to be a lot of players at this golf tournament that you're going to see their names, you know, down the road on, you know, on LPJ tour. It's really cool. So I'm, I'm really excited for, for this, for this level of golf to get showed. case because I think everybody's going to really find out how how specially talented everybody is. It's pretty cool. Hell yeah, man.

Great. Well, congrats on the season and congrats now on the opportunity and I'm so pumped that this all came together because obviously it's just it's simply incredible. Like it really is. I think Barstool is, it's great to see the name recognition of someone tweeted this out and know like Riggs and we're just going to tweet this into actually happening. But to be Barstool to be that big to have that kind of name brand, that power. and then the belief that no, they still operate as like a startup in terms of how fast they can move to actually get this thing going, I think it is just wildly cool. So, yeah, I think you can do us a favor since, you know, I have another job, which I'm work and Frankie and Trent won't be there.

If you can get as much content of Riggs crying and we can put together a day, that would be ideal. I'll just have my phone just buried, but I'll be crying right next to them. It's also going to selfie mode and where it's going to be crying next to each other, wiping tears on each other's shirts. It'll just be what it is. It's hot in the desert too, man. We're going to be dehydrated, crying all over the place. It's going to be, it's going to be dangerous, be real dangerous. I'm a crier, so it's going to be a serious problem this week.

It would be a real serious problem. Well, I'm a crier too, so we can just lay on each other. Hell yeah, man. All right, Charlie. I appreciate him, man. Yeah, Frankie did cry literally at Jimmy Fallon. It wasn't Jimmy. It wasn't the content.

It was more of the theatrics of the whole thing. The lights came on. I'd never seen a thing open up like that, you know, the curtain. So whatever, LTP classic. Let's fucking go, man. Thank you, Charlie Ewing. Absolutely no affiliation with the other Patrick Ewing. But you were a great guest, man.

You were a really good speaker. I didn't know how you were going to do on this. Like you just throw a college golf coach on a podcast for hundreds of thousands of people. And I think you fucking nailed it. Well, I'm glad you didn't say the hundreds of thousands of people before now because I appreciate it a lot. Thank you very much for having us on and for having me on. I cannot wait for this week.

So y'all are awesome and really appreciate the support. Y'all are great. Thanks, Charlie. I'll see you this week. All right. Take care. See you, man.

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I want to say, that guy was great. I want to say that I'm excited to beat the PJ Championship and I'm excited to see what sort of shenanigans that Frankie and I can get ourselves involved in over the next couple days. But you guys talking about how we are now running a real golf tournament with these young women, these young collegiate golfers. I want to watch that now. But I'm sad that I can't be there. We're going to be having a fun time here. But that's going to be fucking awesome.

Dude, coming down like 18, like I don't know what the format is. Is there going to be like a final hole? Like what is the format? I don't know that you've really explained that yet. Yeah, so it's a good question. So there's two simultaneous competitions going on, which is there's 54 holes of stroke play. That doesn't change. That's just what it is. Everybody plays three rounds of golf. There's an individual competition. So just whichever individual shoots the lowest score over three rounds of golf, very simple. There's a champion. We're getting trophies for first, second, and third. There's also now, which was greenlit by the NCAA via a waiver, as a champion. allowed to be an official team competition. So it's up to me to ultimately make this call, but what they would usually do would be five scores. So they travel a lot of times with six or seven or eight or nine, and they pick their top five. They want that round to play. And they

just do a cumulative score to par. And after however many rounds, whoever's got the lowest score is the team, like wins that tournament. And for the, this for the LTP, it's different because not every team's able to send all of their girls. Some of them flew home. Some of them couldn't make it. You know, we have 48 committed now out of what the possible 78. So if a school just has four, like I don't want them to not be eligible for the team competition. We don't only have three teams in the whole thing. So what we're going to do is we're either going to count three, but you can start as many

as you brought to the tournament and you just get your top three. So if your team only sent three, you have clearly a little bit of a disadvantage because all three of your girls have to play really well. Or we could do four, which would eliminate a couple teams. Oregon State sending three. And I think a few others are only sending three. I'm leaning towards doing three scores count every round, but you can use all of your team. Yeah, I like that. You got to do three.

It's let them play. Get everybody involved with this thing. Thank you. Thank you. Imagine having a let them play competition and not allowing the teams that's three to play. That would be the ultimate. That's a misnomer.

Yeah. Yeah, he just didn't let them play. It's crazy. You guys would love it though. Like, there are the coaches from the different teams now, depending on how many people they're bringing, are lobbying me behind the scenes. So like the teams that brought five are like, well, yeah, if you, this is what we do every week if you didn't bring five.

Like, you're not eligible. for the team competition. So there's a lot of lobbying going on. You know, and so I think it would be... Backdoor deals happening here. There's no deals. There's no deals.

Like, I very clearly at the beginning was like, I need to lean on you guys because I really want to make sure we do it, like what's consistent with how, you know, the girls usually play. And then now I'm like, actually, I'm just going to make all the call. There's not, you know. So when you say like the NCAA has greenlit this and there's a waiver, I think I'm very confused on what that actually means.

Like is this like count towards these guys, these girls stats? Does it count towards like the school stats? Like what does this actually mean? So it's a it's a permitted but not NCAA sanctioned event. And what that means is before they submitted this waiver or they approved this waiver that they approved this morning, Monday morning. we actually weren't even necessarily getting like a green light or any approvals from the NCAA. We were mostly just going around rules that could have been violation. So what we were doing was like the girls can play, the young women can play in an offseason event as an individual whenever they want.

Like that's just as long as they're not, you know, getting anything that violates NCA compliance from a gift standpoint and prizes and all that. So we were just one of those, like their seasons over. and if they want to play and compete as an individual, whether it's trying to win the U.S. Amateur or whether it's trying to win the LTP Classic, like, good for you, go for it. You're not doing anything wrong. But that's clearly not the spirit of college golf

because college golf is about going with your teammates and you all, you know. And so what Charlie there and Steve Smith at Mississippi State and what Purdue's compliance office and what our legal team, we hired outside counsel, by the way, who specializes in NCAA compliance to work on this stuff, what they were able to get approved was this waiver that the NCAA actually had to sign off on and approve

where they will allow the coaches to coach their players because that's not allowed in the individual competition if it was only that either. So they can literally give them reads and help them out about club selections and stuff. And they get to compete as a team wearing their school gear. So they get to wear their stuff and compete as a collegiate,

college golf women's golf team which they weren't going to be allowed to do up until this morning so when when steve smith was running through the hallways trying to find charlie there and and give him the good news that's what he was giving them which is really cool that's awesome that'll be huge like school colors school the whole thing then wear the the bags probably the the uniforms and all that's going to make it very very legit and just right the bags is huge i'm not ready for the The college golf bags are awesome. Hearing that Steve Smith is running through the hallways is like reading a book where I think everybody in this room and everybody listening just has a different image of who the Steve Smith got here.

I want to see a picture of this man. Carolina Panthers. I'm yeah, I'm picturing the football player. I think that's what everybody's picturing. Steve Smith in full Carolina pads and uniform running down the hallway with a sheet of paper that says this is now an NCAA sanctioned. The senior is that is that is? Right. My brain's telling me that's not possible, but there's a little piece of me. Like, no, that's Steve Smith from the Carolina Panther that went to Utah. He just running down the hall.

I don't know what Steve Smith, the football player's doing. He could be a compliance guy at Mississippi State. I don't know. What a career pivot that would be. Could you imagine? I still, I don't want to go too far away from this, but I still really don't know what happened in Baton Rouge. I don't have a clue. Like, it seems like there's more to it than there, than anyone is letting on. Like, for them to the, just make that announcement and say it's playable, but it's not playable at a championship level. And then, like Riggs said, when we were talking to Charlie,

just figure it out. Like, figure out a new place to go play or figure, move the T's or, or do something. The fact that they were just like, we can't figure it out, so we're just going to scrap this whole thing. It just doesn't,

it doesn't add up in my mind. I think he also mentioned in the same golf course. It's like, yeah. Right. And, and Mr. Ewing there said,

like, are you guys just not like doing everything you can to just make it happen. I think that's the real open-ended question. I mean, we can go around and around a million times. NCA has to just answer that at some point where it's like, yeah, like, we didn't, like, I mean, they may never answer the question, but it seems as though that was the thing. Like, do you want to go out and spend the money or make the workers go out there and like squeegee the fucking fairways just like they did last week for the men in the PGA tournament where they were getting dumped on and they just figured it out and they finished a golf tournament and that's just what

happens, right? Like, you just figure it out and they saw this tournament and they're like, nope, we're not going to figure it out. We'd rather just not do that and just move on. Top six teams advance. The rest of you go home. So yeah, I don't know that we'll ever get that answer to be honest. I don't like, what are they going to do? Like, yeah, we just didn't care. Like, they're never going to say that. And it's, you know, I've heard whispers of like, there were, there were people trying to force their way into like committee meetings that were happening that weren't like being allowed into meetings. There's, um, an underlying fact that like this thing was at LSU.

LSU was one of the teams that was just waived through because of the, you know, like the top teams just go go through in advance. So it's like there's just a lot of smoke and there was a really bad result. And clearly there's more to the story. And again, I know like Matt Janelle, who's a storyteller has been like, he's been texting me that he's got some tea,

as the kids say on the whole situation. So there's clearly more to the story. We're not like journalists or reporters, so we'd probably never get to the bottom of it. We just, shocker. We kind of actually just make really vague, like, takes on the whole thing that it could be true or not. Well, what we do is- We tweet it into existence. Right.

We pick up the pieces, you know what we do? And Riggs in particular in this scenario, we figure it out. Like, you just figure it out. That's, Riggs did what the NCA, and I don't want to harp on them too much because I know you're working with them a little bit. But, like, you figure it out when they just couldn't figure it out. And now it's a huge opportunity for barstool. This is going to be under the barstool umbrella, this collegiate women's golf tournament.

It's going to be fantastic. And the NCAA just dropped the ball and we picked it up. It's going to be fun, man. This week is going to be really fun. When they arrive, they got practice rounds on Wednesday. And it's going to be, you know, we put on 30-something events now. And like Frankie was saying,

this is going to be very different. Like these are the best girls of their age that are, you know, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 years old at playing golf in the country. Like, they are Division I college golfers who have advanced to regionals and have a chance to go to nationals and contend for a national championship. Like, they are the future of golf and they're really good and they work really hard and they grind. And they're just going to be playing in a tournament that we put together in spearheaded.

And it's going to be fun to watch. It'd be fun to watch, like, really good golf. It'd be fun to announce them all on the tea. I'm going to, I have to study names because at the Barstool Classic, I can just fuck up people's names, and it's funny. But this feels like it'd be disrespectful if I'm butchering people's names up on the first tee with a microphone in my hand. So we're going to be announcing them on the tea.

We got a few surprises in store that we can't reveal yet, but we'll be revealed at the tournament that I think we're going to be really cool. So, yeah, I'm excited. I think a lot of people are excited. we'll be putting out footage all over. I know people are like broadcast it, live stream it. We are going to obviously go live on social media. There's no way we could broadcast a golf tournament.

Like the people that are actually paid to broadcast the tournament can't even broadcast a tournament well. So, but we're going to be putting stuff all over every social media channel and going live and doing live streams from the T and from the 18th Green. So there'll be plenty of coverage. Hey, are there going to be fans? there will be fans i just met with the golf course today and um and i i went and observed the first tea area in the 18th green area and i just said you know how do you guys feel about spectators like

yeah we're very open to spectators and i said you know like if i tweet about this like people are going to show up right and they were like yeah and i was like i i had a guy email me that was like hey i'm on a bachelor party with 16 people um we're going to cancel our golf Thursday We're coming. I was like, you know, you guys got, like people are coming. So, you know, they're teeing off early Thursday. So the plan is 7.30 a.m. T-times on Thursday, and then they'll tee off on the other course.

So they're going to be playing the cat tail course Thursday morning. And then the Devil's Claw course starting at about 12.31 p.m. in the afternoon. So I think by the time we get to that first tea in the afternoon, maybe around noon, one o'clock, it's a nice, you know, 90-degree day. here in sunny, Phoenix, Arizona. I think you might see some stuff. And then Friday, the first tee times 9 a.m.,

and the girls are going to basically be finishing their seasons and their college careers, you know, around 1, 2, 3 o'clock on a Friday afternoon, like, A, I'm going to be bowling my eyes out. And B, there's probably going to be some people there. And it's going to be really cool. It's just going to be so cool. I'm very excited here. I'm picturing now like the waste management, just like it just.

Yeah. Pretty much. People are canceling their bachelor body. Like the LTV could be now just the premier college end of career golf tournament that just happens. Like this could be now just an annual thing. Just like Charlie was saying when he first saw Riggs's tweet where he tweeted the tournament into existence, if we put out word that, hey, spectators are allowed, come on to our golf tournament. People will show up. They will.

Oh, God, yeah. And that's what I was explaining. They're like, do we need like beverage cards? And I was like, how many do you guys? because it's going to be yeah yeah i mean yeah i think people were going to show up so if you're around show up like these these girls haven't these these these girls young women and and i will say that um i saw some people that were like um trying to correct me they're like don't call them girls call them women and i'm like well look if i was talking about when i played college hockey i wouldn't

be like oh yeah um me and like the men have a 7 p.m. game would be like yeah me and the boys got a game at like 7 p.m so it's like that's that's people when you talk to the college hockey i wouldn't be like oh yeah um you coach like yeah my girls are ready to go they're fired up so uh so that's just like anybody that's kind of driving me crazy people are freaking out i was actually having a conversation about that just the other day when does girls switch to a woman when when does that take place that you say like no the women are playing i don't think the four of us are going to make that no well like the same with like boys and men like when does that i'm still not a man right right so like maybe it's different right right right maybe it is based on like personality maybe it's like what is you

your maturity level. But for me, like even today, it's like, me and the boys got a tea time at like at 2 o'clock. and it's like, you know, that's just what it is. So, well, well, listen, the people who are correcting that or whatever you want to say, it's been a tough couple days. It's been a tough couple days with the bar still haters, I will say. So, yeah, it has big.

Like, if that's the only thing they can pick, then that's what it's going to be. Fair. So I'm trying to say young women as much as I can. But even that just doesn't, that doesn't even sound real. That sounds like I'm sure. It makes you sound like an asshole that's trying too hard. It's like, no, the girls are playing. Let the girls fucking play.

There's nothing wrong with that. So I'm just saying girls, and people have an issue with it, we'll cross that bridge. We'll solve that issue another time. But anyways, it's been it's been hectic. It's going to be so cool, like seeing them arrive Wednesday and check out the course for the first time. They're going to be serious. I know that. Like, they're going to be taking notes.

They're going to be grinding on the golf course. They're going to be coming up with strategy. What clubs are going to hit on certain T's going over with coaches? like and they're ready to go they're like they're it's it's competition they're fired up um it's just going to be it's going to be a very meaningful thing that that we're doing and um and it's going to be happening at the same time as a major championship which you guys are at which is just hard to comprehend i think i'm a cigar guy on the golf course now fellas let's go i think i'm just a cigar guy on the golf course i um i want to talk a little bit more about this you know on

Thursday show when we can let it air out and breathe a little bit more. But amid all this chaos of putting together this tournament, I planned this just like bucketless weekend with my brother in Pebble because we were going to be out in California anyways for the classic. And we got to Pebble on Friday afternoon. My brother flew all the way across the country from St. Louis. He's got two young kids. And we were the last tee time off, Pebble Beach. We played 17 and 18, like right as the sun was setting. And it was getting dark and on the 10th tea we just lit up a couple macanudo cigars i went with the orange label he went with the white and uh and my buddy chad was there he went with the orange as well and man i can't tell you how many times everybody just took it at said this is so enjoyable right now it really

enhances your experience man it's uh for pictures for experience like for the for actually being there just everything about it just makes it look cooler right like you just know you're in a moment. Whenever I'm smoking a cigar, and especially a mac and noodle, I know that it's a moment. I actually became, over the years, the guy in my friend group that would bring the cigars to big moments. It would be like New Year's Eve. We'd all be going to a place. And they knew like at some point of the night, I was going to just like kind of flash like a big bag of just mac and new like 10 maconood cigars. And everyone was going to be like, oh, like he brought the cigars. And we're going to go outside on a cold evening. and we're going to fuck and we're going to toke those things.

Is it toke? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's toke with a tea. So, I don't know if you're toke a cigar. I think you're toking it. I think you're toking it. I'm pretty confident in that, to be honest. I think you toke a cigar. We'll shelf that for a little bit.

But what I want to say is it just enhances your experience and it makes it a moment. So when you're at Pebble Beach, that's a moment. You're not just golfing. you have a cigar and and it just adds to it. There's just something about it. Sorry to stop there. It really brought the show to a halt there. It was a very pointed way that you know.

That was a moment. Somebody should have lit up a cigar there because that was a real moment. I wish I could have, man. And you know what? We learned how to do it from maconudos. And I've now adopted what they've said. Like you have all these cutters and stuff and you really don't need to cut. but the side that you're going to be smoking out of,

you just need, you can use your fingertips, your fingernail, and just all you have to do is expose that side of the cigar. There's a very fine, thin casing on the side that you are going to be actually putting your mouth on, and you just need to expose that part to enjoy the cigar. So don't be chopping off lumber off that thing. Take as little amount off as possible so that you have an enjoyable experience.

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Yeah. Really? He just won the history. The guy doesn't want to major in seven years. Yeah, but when he was winning, he won one here by eight strokes. So I think he feels pretty comfortable here. You can get on the Barstall Sportsbook, Kevin Kisner, a 250. to one to win this major championship.

You throw a hundred bucks on this guy. Throw a hundred bucks on this guy. You're cashing in $25,000. I mean, I'd be careful with that. Because his swing coach might be preoccupied with me because I'm going to go over that. I need to talk to JT. One of my favorite things that I'm looking forward to this week is that. Yes.

What's the word I'm looking for? The rekindling, the rekindling maybe of JT and his baby cub now. I mean, that's what Trent is to JT. He has this, he has this deer that's trying to walk on the ice, Bambi style, and he's trying to turn him into this nice fucking grizzled animal on the golf course. Lurch, you haven't been on the podcast in a minute, and you really have missed a lot of like the, you know, we talked about Trent and I went to go break 100 the other day,

and his swing, it's got, it's a locomotive now. I mean, it's the, the knees are moving from left to right. It's unbelievable what's going on in the, lower body. But it's very much... What the driver I saw him hit was off the charts. It's one of, it's Bambi though. It's Bambi on ice and we just don't know how to walk yet.

So I'm very interested to see your guys' relationship up close because he's got a lot of work with you to go. T, do you have a lot of power now? You find it some power in that bottom hat? Yes. How far do you think my first drive went, Frankie? Sorry, what was that? Oh, how far do you think my first drive went off the first T?

275 with a nice draw right down the middle. Shut. split the fairway right in half. He split the fair way better than the fucking maintenance crew did. Yeah. But again, we're dancing around it. But like I,

you know, I got to be able to do. I'm not over exaggerating either. It was like 275. It was a good drive. I piped one. He was 20 yards ahead of me. It was crazy.

Yeah, you're going to have probably a bigger miss. Like it's going to get worse before it gets better, but you're all in a better path. We said it was he went through surgery. And now it's time for, he went through post-op a little bit. Now it's physical therapy.

And sometimes physical therapy, it hurts more before it gets better. And, you know, we just got to get these guys on the bands. We got to get him. We got to get him doing wrist curls. And it's going to be a fucking grind. You're going to hate your physical therapist. You're going to fucking hate him at times. Nope.

I'm sure you're just like, fuck you, J.T. Like, why do I have to bend this thing, this bowling ball in half? But you know what? He's going to fucking, I'm sorry about that. But he's going to make you do things that you're not used to. And we're going to see that. series like you're laying on the ground in these previews right so jake has been going through all the footage and there's a there's a lot of footage and we're chopping it all up and we're trying to

figure out what the release dates are what what the videos are going to be and there are parts of these videos where i am just so exhausted and i sweat is pouring off my head it's basically falling on the jt as he tries to you know ignite my lower half and it's you know i love jt he him and I, we get along great. He took me out on the lake, obviously, and I tried to wake surf. But yeah, I'm excited to see him on this trip. I'm just part of his stable now.

It's like me, Kevin Kisner, Ricky Fowler. It's just, we're all in this together, and I'm excited to see him. And I need to talk to him about the last round that we played because I need to clean some things up. Do we have, we're not, we're not revealing that behind locked, I'll close doors, seal it forever. I'll text you the number when we're doing.

I'd like to see his facial reaction when you send it. Can you send it now? Yeah, I get to see this. Do I haven't seen it either? Oh, you want, yeah, all right. Why do we do that? I'm picturing why he's, why he's doing this. I'm picturing Trent's face on like Bambi,

just like who is going everywhere of it? All right. I just sent it. We're going to have to give it's money. Whoa! Wow. Wow. Wow.

Whoa. Where was this at? Brookville. Brookville Country Club. Joey La Cava was on the scene. We've talked about that a little bit. And yeah, it was a scene. But that video is going to come out,

and it's going to be fucking awesome. And people are going to be along for the ride. What I do want to get out of you guys before we do end this podcast is I want to get everyone's picks. It's Monday of a major championship. Things are going to change. Some guys are going to come out with practice videos. We're going to see guys on the,

me and Trent are going to be up close and personal on the range. we're going to be able to get a good vibe so i want to do something going in ice cold everyone give a pick uh maybe we'll give a real pick and then we'll also give a sleeper someone that would just fucking shock the world do you guys that wants to be a real pick by the golf course that no what is it going to be a little over 7 800 yards yeah it's a fucking poke so that's why kevin kisersers 250 to want correct kevin kisner can't play that golf course he would tell us that it's south carolina it's nice weather like kis likes this shit you know what i mean like it's kind of Kind of close to his home, right?

I mean, kind of, I guess. I don't know. Where are we in relation to where he is? Pretty fucking south. I mean, yeah, he's just from, he's just from that, that. This like area, right? So I mean, like, that state. So it's like, yeah, that's.

We're going to say state for sure. That's good. If it wasn't 7,800 yards, man. Um, I'll go. So I, um, I placed a wager before we left Philadelphia. on Jordan Speed at 14 to 1 plus 1,400 on the Barcelona Sportsbook to win the PGA championship. And I was up big. I had a great, great showing in Philadelphia.

And I put $500 on Jordan Speed to win the PGA championship. And that's the only wager that I have on it because I'm now not in a state where it's legal. So I am picking Jordan Speeat. he shot 18 under par this past week and finished tied for nine. So I like that. That was like, you know, he hasn't played much golf, really, since the master's, like almost none. And people might not know this because I really didn't want to,

I didn't want to talk about it, but I played the member guest tournament a few weeks ago. And I played in a match against Michael Greller and Bones, who were just awesome guys. And we had beers for like an hour afterwards. And the vibe that I got about him and his feeling. about Jordan Speed's game. That's my pick for this week.

And people understand that like, you know, when you, when we're in the kind of some of the circles that we somehow find ourselves in, which is amazing, you don't want to violate that stuff and be the guy that, like, tells every word that you've ever had. So I'll just say that Bones and Greller are just salt of the earth guys you can possibly be. And the vibe that I got from Greller was that Jordan Speed is on to something pretty special right now. So I've got Jordan Speeds winning the PJ championship. Wow.

Lurch You fucking like that Lurch I do I'm gonna take John Rom Actually Rambo Oh 14 to 1

14 to 1 I'm gonna take Rom to come in And take this thing Do you have any That now What does speed that now Did he change Speed is still at 1401

Oh he is Oh good Hell yeah So Long shot You want a long shot too Frank Yeah

Give me someone Just from the back pocket Like you're just Keeping them away tucked in there For a nice fucking warm day Keep back

keep that guy tucked in there about your side. Fitzpatrick, I'll think. Oh, I think he was rolling in a 33 to 1. He's not as bad as it was. Yeah, 50 to 1. All right. 51, that's deep. 501 is deep.

Trent, you got a guy from me this week? I'm just scrolling the Barstall Sportsbook app right now, trying to look at some names here. You know what would be amazing if Tony Fiena just broke all the way through and won a major? That would make me very, very happy. He's 33 to 1 right now. I'm going to... Pina is 30.

That's good odds for that, man. How about this one? How about this one? Tommy Fleetwood is plus 6,600 to win the BGA Jimmage in. There's value on the back half. Yeah. 66 to 1. Even Mark Leishman.

I'm going to go, I'm going to go, Mark Leishman. That's my bet. Mark Leashman is going to be my daughter. is going to be my dark horse 55 to 1 he's plus 5,500 in the martial sports book Leash is going to be my pick my dark horse pick.

You want to know who my fucking dark horse is and I think this guy, we've talked about him in the last couple podcast. You know, I was between him but for some reason his name just keeps popping up. He popped up on an ad the other day when I was going through something

and I looked at him and I was like, I couldn't believe he was still alive. And now I'm trying to look at what his odds were. They have to be horrible. Hold on now. Who is it? Francesco Molinari. I think he's legitimately 150 to 1 out here. And I just, I don't think that he would win, but I want to put Francesco Molinari in a top 25 bet on the Barstow sports book, right? Like, get this guy back in the mix. I saw him in this ad. It was like he was promoting some sort of, whatever, and he just looked like to Francesco Molinari of like early 2019. I'm like, that guy. You thought he was back. you thought he was back.

It's just like that guy has it in him, right? Just like we've argued about Jordan Speeth and Rory Macer at some point, like Francesca Bolandari did it. He stared into Tiger Woods's soul during the open and just fucking beat, like you know what I mean? Like this guy can do it. He knows how to do it. And when you have that much value on a guy in a major championship,

a guy that knows how to tame the crowds and a guy that knows how to stare down the belly of the beast, Francisco Bolanari, when you're talking about putting 50, 25 bucks on a guy, Why not Francesco Molinari? Why not Frankie? I love some of the things you say. Stare down the belly of the beast. You just threw two sayings together.

And I appreciate that. Now what's the belly of the beast? You're just in the belly of the beast. Right? Yeah, but then Frankie is staring down the belly of the beast. And he's not scared. No, I'm picturing that whale, like old school. What's the, like, Mobee Dick or something?

I feel like I've heard that before. I'm just like walking into the mouth. I'm fucking in the belly of the beast. I think you walk into the belly of the beast. Is it Moby Dick? Is that where that comes from? No idea. I was envisioning Moby Dick too.

Jonah. Jonah. Is that biblical? It's biblical. Jonah and the whale? So Frankie, who's your favorite pick, though? So you got Molnari in the back pocket?

It sucks. It sucks, but it's Justin Thomas. Like, Justin Thomas has to win a fucking golf tournament. I think he's 14-01. he maybe 14 or 18 to 1 I will ride Justin Thomas

I will get that in I I'm telling you right now this guy has to he Justin Thomas is going to come here to Kiwa and he's going to have bro he's putting up fucking videos he's feeling good He put up one today Are kind of feeling each other You know what it is though

I'm I think I'm getting I think I'm getting swindled by this PIP thing These guys are so much more on social media It's crazy Justin Thomas put up a video that I shared like With a bunch of my buddies like He put up a video It was like a hundred and he goes 205 to the pin

It's playing 185 to the front 15 mile an hour in the wind What are you taking? And it got me going I'm like what are you taking? He's taking a four iron I'm like fuck He's getting like more money now Because I just shared it 10 times

And the analytics are like These guys have me by the ball It's working But like the PGA Tours thing That they did is working That's why I like Yeah I know

I'm gonna actually That's organic conversation Created by Justin Thompson I hope we see Justin Time Samar Because I'm gonna chirp him a little bit Yeah Yeah

to chirp him a little bit about his. He's just like, I love the player impact program. Yeah. That's a good program. Let's grow the game. Grow the game. You know what I would like to win? I want Patrick Reed to win just to piss off some people.

I feel like we haven't had Patrick Reed pissing people off lately. And I need some more. That's a good one. That's a real good one. I'd also like to run into him this week. I want to talk to Patrick. We'd love to run into Patrick Reed. And Justin Thomas doesn't know what he has coming to him.

He put up that fucking Penguins post. And he's entered the belly of the beast. And, you know, he's got me down his throat this week. He thinks he has Kiwa in 7,800 yards. That guy never should have stepped into my world because I'm going to be giving it to him tomorrow. He's playing you like a fiddle. He shared the video. You re-shared it.

He's now got you in his bag pocket. You know what? In the pip world, yes. But in the hockey world, I'm fucking on him. Right. When you start talking about hockey, Frankie's just got blinders on. He'll walk into any trap he sees. Lurch wasn't here, but like Joey La Cava, we're having a drink with them.

He mentioned like the Rangers. I'm like, Joey, you're fucking dead, buddy. I'm like, I basically, like, pushed him into a corner. I had a finger on his, on his chest. I'm like, Joey, your Rangers stink. Just the nicest man in the world. He had no idea what happened. Boys, you know what I'm holding right here?

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I was going to say those look very nautical, very swimming. Yeah, because they're seaside. Very swimming. That's the guy who's in the ocean all the time. Those are very swimming. Huge ocean guy. I'm going to take this.

I'm going to take five on this ad read here because we all know I'm not wearing shorts anytime soon. Lurch, you weren't on the last podcast when we did a Peter Millar ad read, but I think I'm going to become a shorts guy this summer. And I'm going to wear a bunch of Peter Malar shorts. Oh, those are nice prints. That's great. What swayed you?

Was it the nautical line? No, well, yeah, the seaside line is great, and that definitely was a step in the right direction. But someone, I think it might have been our producer, Jake, when we were in Georgia, he made a comment about my legs, and it gave me a little bit of confidence, and now I kind of want to showcase them a little bit more. I think I'm going to.

Yeah, you should. You just, like Frankie, like, you guys got to get early in the season, show your legs because nobody wants to see a set of pasty whites in July or August. You got to have some confidence. The pigment's not my issue, dude. The pigman's not my issue, dude. It's like when you get a nice basket of like on the bone chicken wings, you go after the meaty ones first and then those little ones that just have a little bit of skin around the bone.

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Everything about this place looks very cool, very coastal, very in the trees. But you can almost like hear the ocean. in the background. So I'm very excited. Trent and I are actually going to go, you know, find a place to eat. I don't know. I think places are like just open here in South Carolina on Kiwa Island. It may be kind of tough. But, you know, it's about 9 o'clock on a Monday. We'll see what's open. We'll see if we can get some local grub as the people say, as the tourists say. So I'm excited. It's a major championship week. So it's a big week for the boys. Yeah, it's huge. Speaking of the boys, it's a big week for the boys. We're making some things happen.

I'm just very excited for you guys to get to the course and and start firing up the text group about it because I've heard that Keowa is stunning. I know Lurch has been there. I heard it's just like it's stunning. Well, dude, I looked up pictures because I, when you see it online, right, you see it. Obviously, the 2012 PGA was here, but you don't like, you can't understand how people can come and like attend this venue. There's just fucking bunkers everywhere. There's no grass. It's just, it's like dunes.

I've never seen, I can't imagine how they're going to do this. So I looked up pictures from 2012 and guys are just standing in the bunkers. I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of people legitimately just standing in dunes like dirty as can be. And that's another thing. Like I have all like light colored pants like a fucking idiot. Now I'm just thinking about that. I'm going to look like a mess walking around the dirt. I don't have one pair of dark pants in my entire fucking luggage now that I think about it.

I'm going to take so many pictures of you. That's going to be great. God damn. I'm going to look like a. fucking, I don't know, I'm going to look like I just crawled out of Shawshank Redemption. That course. That course is incredible, though. It's like, it's mind bygone.

Are you guys going to go walk it tomorrow or get a sense of it or what's the plan? We're there early tomorrow. We're going to get there right when the doors open. So we'll be there when the first guys tee off for their practice round. We'll be there until the last guy tees off. Then we got Islanders hockey. And then we'll be there Wednesday. And then Thursday, we're heading into Charleston so though we can do the meet and greet.

And we can get Liddy Titty as they can. could say. So tomorrow's a big day. That's the course where we did an impromptu buddies trip, four of us, went down, played great at Turtle, and then had, I think I've told this story in a podcast where I had 17 double vodkas, couldn't see straight the next day, shot 101, lost every which way I possibly could to my buddies. But it's an amazing golf course that's honestly just if the wind blows. I don't know how people are going to do that. For like J. Q's point, I think that's the 17th that hole, that part three that's 220 all carryover water with a thousand alligators honestly in that little

pond um so it's going to be a great week to golf and it's going to butcher people and the scores are going to be outrageous uh i can't wait to watch so uh so i just texted max homa who has been um is extremely supportive about the lTP in texombe and i said if i had to read one thing from max homa live on the pod right now about keowa what would it be and he said if you drive it really long and straight. You can definitely make at least a couple birdies a day if you hit your irons well, L.O. And then he said, I really hope that's actually going on the pod because that actually just made me laugh a little bit. I think the M.O. is playing very hard. And that's what we like to see. I may take one for the boys tomorrow. So it's like 80 degrees here. But I thought maybe if I wear,

we, no, I'm not going to take, wear shorts. I'm going to actually do the opposite. We have these barstool golf, um, four play hoodies, right? These champion hoodies that they're on the barstle store. And this is a fucking huge four play logo on your chest. And I'm like, man, that'd be nice to wear because it like out here, it's kind of hard like for guys to, especially with masks on. Sometimes you're in the ropes, like, who is who. I'm walking around with a fucking advertisement on my chest. Like that may be nice for like, like getting a guy's eye and like, oh, fuck, it's four play guys. Let's let me go say hi to him. But the other thing is like, it's going to be 80 degrees. Am I wearing a hoodie around here? So I may have to take one for the boy.

and I mean, you guys know I don't like to show skin, so I'll be happy as a fucking clam. But I think I'm going to do that tomorrow. I think I'm going to wear a hoodie to fucking Kiwa. Be the only person on the property. For sure. Do it for the team. Please do it for the team.

Did either one, what kind of shoes did you guys pack? I got my G4, those blue ones, the blue just kind of like walking shoes. Because, you know, they're dark. I figure walking in the dirt. And they have a little bit of traction. So I kind of kill two birds at one stone there.

I'm not going to get made fun of by the fucking golf. the people that call us golf artists for wearing golf shoes to golf championships because they do look like sneakers and what they do not know is that they're actually turf shoes and they have traction. I just straight up brought golf shoes. So, you know, I just, I'm going to be wearing.

They're the nice, they're the white G4 ones. So they kind of look like sneakers, but I don't give a fuck. They're going to get dirty. They're going to get dirty, but they're going to be comfortable. Like,

I'm going to wear what's going to be comfortable and I just don't care what anyone thinks. It's just what it boils down to. All right, fellas Well, look, I'm excited to see the coverage I'm very excited to hear your guys Impulse reactions From getting out to Kiowa for the first time Because I've heard it like I said that it's just awesome

Got two idiots Like me and Trent are just like These two guys just like I can't It's just gonna be fucking awesome walking in there Like every time we get these fucking passes I'm like are you guys sure Are you sure you want to give me these things?

Like it's no secret that we're fucking idiots It's like, I don't know. Like, Riggs is pretty, he's a professional guy. And he kind of keeps me and Frankie in line for the most part. And so, like it's, I mean, this is going to be three days of the Brian Baum, Baumgartner interview. Just, we're just at a major championship. Me and Frankie get to do whatever we want. Like, that's a, that's a nightmare scenario potential.

Mom and dad left you guys home alone for the first time. And it's like, who knows what's going to happen. And our goal is to talk to a couple of really good golfers about the championship that they are about to participate in. And if we can get a couple chuckles out of them, then you know what? It's a great weekend. And we go to the uptown social and we fucking clash and clang some Owens mixers. And we celebrate a great week and we get ready for the LTP classic. All we need is for these guys to just give us a little bit of the time of the day.

That's all like it's, we are the people at home. This is what I've said all the time. And this is what about this is what it is about Barstool. In fact that Trent and I have these inside the ropes passes means like you listening to this. Like you basically have the inside the rope pass. Like we are just you, the guy who's like, like pushing a lawnmower right now, like working for fucking $12 an hour. Like that's who we are.

That's who I was. I was making pizzas fucking five years ago. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing at here, but somehow, some way, we have a voice inside the ropes and we're going to try and figure out what the fuck that means, what the fuck that is. And if we don't get anything, I'll just jump in the ocean. It doesn't matter. I'll just go back to Borrellys.

And if we do get something, it's awesome. So we're just here. We're out here. It's a practice round. And I can't wait to see it. Awesome. Absolutely awesome. Well, good luck out there, boys.

just gave me and everybody a ton of confidence. So you guys are our guys. Through the game. This is the representation right here. If you're at Kiwa, if you're listening to this and you're going to Kiwa, come say what's up to us.

We will be all over that golf course. I will not fucking miss an inch of that course. I'm walking 1 to 18. I won't miss a guy to you off. We're going to be fucking committed tomorrow. Come say hi to us. We won't buy a drink. You buy us a drink.

Whatever happens, happens. Dude, I will tell you, if you're going to walk that whole thing and you're in a sweatshirt tomorrow, you are going to be drunk. Because it is out all the way as far as you can see, 8,000 yards and all the way back. And then the walk from 9 to 10 might as well be a half mile.

Where if you're playing it, they'll pick you up in a golf cart and ship you down because it's so far. So where the billboard, Frankie, sweat it out. And then I will say it, Uptown Social, might be one of the better spots to watch a playoff hockey game outside. If you're at that top bar, it is honestly, it's outside, playoff atmosphere. I would pay for one of your islanders friends to come down,

so you got good vibes down there because it is a spectacular place to watch a game. I know we're running along and we'll wrap up here, but the walk at Kiowa cannot be longer than the walk we did today from security to our gate at the airport. It took, all told, a real 20 minutes to get from security to our gate. It was one of the more outrate. We had to take three escalators. 26. So when I was faster than them.

Charlotte. No, this is JFK Terminal 4. And you know what? All these people want these big fucking airports and these luxurious places. They're essentially just shopping malls. So if you really want a brand new airport, like all you want is like a Swarvarsky crystal place and like a fucking like and a Louis Vuitton fucking outlet. I don't I don't understand why we need these huge airports. Like just get us in and out.

like dude we walked legitimately 26 minutes of of true walking like not stopping you know how long that is dude that's got to be a couple miles frankie got through security before i did and and i i you know they pulled my bag aside because i had this spray bottle whatever and frankie's already at the gate and he's texting me being like you're not going to believe how long it takes you to get from where you are right now to where i'm sitting right now and that is just the last thing you want to hear when you're about to walk for 25 minutes. It was far, man. It was far. I do agree with you. The other thing that blows my mind is the luggage sale in airports. Like if you're showing up there with no fucking luggage, I don't understand. You bought something? I had to. I had to. So I'm on my way somewhere. I think I was with

Dave Portnoy and I had this bag that we had gotten. It was an awesome bag. We got it at Kyle Rudolph's Celebrity Golf Tournament that we did in Minnesota like four years ago. And I loved this fucking duffel bag. And for some, I, I, I loved it so much that I took it on every single trip that we went to and it started to get broken. Like, you know, the zipper was going one way, the zipper was going the other way and I just really couldn't contain the clothes to the point where, you know, when you get a bag that's so old and so messed up that like only you can close it and open it. And if someone else tries to maneuver it one way or another, it's over. Like I had these fucking, it basically was open on the sides and I had the zipper just touching

in the middle. And I'm like, if someone touches this, it's going to explode. And of course, they found like a deodorant that they didn't like in my bag and they the guy just ripped it open and it was over the zipper went flying in the air and I'm like oh my god and I had all these clothes in my hand so the guy I'm like what are my options now because I legitimately can't it's over like I barely fit this so he's like there's a luggage shop right there $400 for a rolling you guys see it it it's a silver fucking horrible looking the apple logo on it that you put out yeah it's got the um it was three Oklahoma State. Go pokes. Go pox. The thing's got fucking $350. So yeah,

I'm the asshole that bought fucking luggage in the airport. Fair enough. Fair enough. All right. I got to go eat something, fellas.

Yeah, we got to go eat. I don't know. If you're going to time an airport walk and you ever get to Zir. Time that out. That's a 45-minute walk. Where?

Zurich. Like the Zurich classic? Like Switzerland. Oh. it's the biggest airport I've ever been to. Really? Yeah. It was a 30 plus 35 minute walk.

How, right? It's honesty time, okay? Yeah. Raise the hands, raise of hands, who knew that Zurich was a place in Switzerland? I'm still on the fence if it's there in Switzerland, but I think that's where it is. I did not know. I don't even know if it's actually in Switzerland. Let me look.

Well, Zurich is like a company that my buddy worked for, so I was just like, oh, I don't know is that like in new york city ziric switch oh we're good we're good i was 50 50 when i said switzerland i was like oh my friend kyle worked in europe and i think this is it but i'm so no i wouldn't have been able to come up with that because i actually was thinking germany because i was thinking munich ah okay ziric munich i was all i would have been off in the wrong country who i learned something yeah i like the honesty test that's a good that's a good one

i was nervous kicking that out I was like, oh, this could be anywhere, and I've been there. So this is going to be a real, real shot at me if I don't know. All right, boys. Well, go get them tomorrow. I'm rooting for you guys out there. I'm going to text like kids and be like, can you just keep an eye out on for me and just make sure they don't do anything?

We're going to be strolling in the middle of a ferry by accident. It's going to be 80 degrees of Frank. He's going to be wearing a fucking hoodie. And they're going to be like, what is that guy? Helicopter is going to come in. on like 16 or wherever like the furthest part of the golf courses like 11 or something and then they're going to have to helicopter me off the fucking rough because I've gotten heat stroke shout out the rigs for putting that putting this whole thing let them play a thing together

man yeah this is some cool shit man thanks boys good luck good luck this week I'm excited to follow along and we'll be back on Thursday hit it hard hit it hard hard hit it hard hit it hard