Fore Play - LinksGems, a voice to the name

Episode Date: October 31, 2019

Course photographer @LinksGems, also known as Jon Cavalier, joins the show for the first time (~45:52). We talk about shooting courses, stopping at sketchy rest stops to upload photos, and his reckless history with drones. The crew also previews our upcoming Pinehurst trip, complete with private jets, Jake Owen concerts, and a weekend at Kisner's!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Special guest on today's show, our friend Linksjims. John Cavalier is his real name. He came in studio, probably about 45 minutes. We chatted with him. Great guy. You've heard us plug him a lot.

If you don't follow his accounts, you're an idiot. He's at Linksjems on Instagram and Twitter. Very interesting conversation. We get into his photos, how he takes such good photos. photos, why he takes way better photos than the average person. Tells funny stories about stopping at like rest stops and the type of personnel that are in there. To his drone history, he's been through seven different drones crashing him. He's a very reckless drone flyer.

So it's a very funny, very interesting. And we talk obviously a lot of golf. He talks about how much he loves golf, what it means to him, different courses. So people are going to like that. It was very cool to put, I guess, a voice to the name for a lot of the listeners. So we're going to go through some headlines here, maybe a couple from the galleries. and then we will hit you with the Links Gems interview. Supreme Golf, reminder.

Go book your damn T-Times. Go book them right now. Get out there. You might not be able to play after another week or two, depending on where you live in this great country or in this world. We do have a surprising Australia following. We do. We have mates.

Mates. The callers that called in with the one golf bag, right, are from Australia? Remember that? Well, they emailed in, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. but I love that group We have a lot of mates down under

A couple mates Yep It's just a shame we can't get Jason Day On this damn show Down under Just the big white whale Who loves us apparently It won't come on the show

Went out of his way To say how much he likes us Australia I'm really excited to use the word Cunt When talking about Australians Okay That's the change that you're excited to make

I mean that's what they say I get it But like the toilet bowl flushes the opposite way Right I don't know I don't know Or is that a myth? All things that I'm pretty excited about.

Do they have the different outlets? You know, in Europe, they got the different outlets? Something look into. You got to plug in your phone? Nope. You got to go to, like, the CVS and find one. I've never been out of the country. I've got a lot.

It's aside from the little part on the other side of the Niagara Falls. There's a fun little town over there with some ladies at the night. Is that London, Ontario? No. Niagara. I know, but like the other side in the other country. Niagara Canada, I think it's called. Is that right?

Yes. Where's London? Is that even close to there? I'm not. I didn't think so. England. That's a different. Got Trent going.

I like that. I love that one. Down under. We are going to Australia. I think that's like 95% in the books that we're going to Australia around the president. It's so absurd. Yeah, I don't think that's really settled in on like. Australia is like going to another country.

That's another. Oh, my God. Another planet. Ha ha ha. She it. She it. She it. Like, she it.

She it. Take back. Take back. Take back. It's like. That one's going to haunt you, man. Get me out of the year. I want to run.

It's like, Frank, are you sitting down right now? I got to scream it out. Hold on. Let me pull up Google Earth real quick, Frank. You're going to lose you. Another planet. I don't know if I can do that. I think that's with a layover in L.A., but still, like, a couple-hour layover.

So, like, you basically just stop to pee and then you're back on. Yeah, I might have to take some heavy drugs on that. Anyway, when we go to Australia, we can use Supreme Golf to book our T-Times. They're international, and they're just the best. They've got every other T-time app you've ever heard of, plus thousands more. So if you use T-Off or Golf Now or any of those other moronic ones, that's on you, and you should stop doing that because it makes no sense because Supreme Golf has all of them under their umbrella.

So you go to spring golf.com slash barstool or you go to your app store download SpringGoff and use it to book tea times. You are welcome. You are very much going to enjoy it. Happy Halloween. It's Halloween when this podcast has come out. Is that your little scary voice?

That's good. That's good foresight in terms of what day it's going to be. Andrew put that in the notes. Good call. Happy Halloween. What did you all dress that? Franky. Are you a big Halloween guy, Frankie?

I used to be. I'm not surprised. I used to be a real. big one. I think everybody used to. Did you guys have mischief night? Huh? Did you have mischief night?

No. What is that? Was that like the purge? The night before Halloween in Jersey, we used to run around with like toilet paper and eggs and vandalize people's houses? Vandalized the whole neighborhood. It's so stupid. We got to a little police or whatever?

I think that's break the law night. It is. We got to. But it was like socially okay. No, I know. Yeah, we did a little mischief. I remember, uh, we all went to a, shaving cream on a, um, a windshield with a quarter.

supposedly it froze like we never did this but that was you know horrible I guess we never did this yeah clearly no we never did let me break down how to do it but I swear to God we never did it we never did we had this um we had a elementary school by my house and we had this guy and he always we called him the pubs what's that that's a police uh oh yeah oh an alarm's going off they're cleaning the um that feels like a police car they're cleaning the uh smoke detectors is that going to drive you guys crazy I think it's okay We have it's like a strobe.

Oh, it's off. All right, the alarm just went off as I was speaking. But we have these guys who call, I guess they're public safety people. They're not police officers. They just drive around the schools to make sure no hooligans are running around the fields. They're riffraff, called the pubs. And I don't know. That was kind of a mean thing to say to them.

I would say so. And there was one night where we all just egg the one pub car. And I'm talking like probably 150 kids all rained down. Like it was a scene from 300 where like he was just sitting in his car. And he just was like, fuck my life, man. I'm just a security card. Guy, what do you do? He turned on his windshield hyper and just let them.

And all these eggs just, like, peppered them. Right, you guys went home giggling. He's like, all right, well, now I've just got to clean this car off with all the eggs on it. It's like in a super bed where he like drops all the fucking beer. And the guy's just like, are you going to clean that up? No, he's just like. He says fuck my life. Yeah, he's like, somebody should probably clean this up.

He's like, fuck my life, man. That's exactly what that pew was thinking. So happy Halloween. I'm not going to dress up as anything, I don't think. My dad was a slice of pizza. Stunning. Yeah. This year, yeah.

He went to like a thing. What do you mean he went? It's not Halloween yet. Yeah, but they went to like a Halloween themed like birthday party last weekend. Yeah, people are, people have trouble like deciding what weekend for it to be. Like last weekend a lot of people were dressing up. I would imagine people would dress up in November. Some girl in my office is spearheading like outfits or whatever.

It's like I'm called costumes. Yeah, I'm just so against it. But we're in a team. You can't be against. What are your Halloween? Grinch. What are you going to be? From Dodgeball, Ben Stiller's team.

You know, just. That's disgusting. It's all right. This is such an office life. You walk in with like spikes on your shoulder. It's just like sitting down your desk. You're the cobras. You've got certain feelings to people.

You're the cobras. I'm the cobras. So I'll be cobring. Yes. Ben just take a alert, taking a conference call just with like spikes sticking up. He's can barely hold on his phone. Just take a dodge ball and pegs.

Yeah, right. Just to be in costume. What are you doing? I'm in costume. I just pegged that kid in the face. You're out. Some guys on the phone, you just peg him right in the,

right in the noggin. He's just like a message from Jake that my laptop sounds like it's going to explode. And it is. One of these days, if anyone was just listening and heard a fan or like a jet plane taking off, that was just my laptop trying to export a pizza review.

That's what's been happening. I can still hear it from here. It's just so loud. It sounds like, yeah, when you put on one of those soft fans to go to sleep to, you know, white noise.

That's what your, your laptop. Yeah, you're putting your microphone up to it. Nice. That's crazy, man. Purely Patricia, we did a piece of you with her. She's a walking ball circus.

She's a ball of color. And it's a 10-minute review. It's taking every single part of energy out of my laptop to produce this thing. Lurchy, I wanted to get your take. We kind of roasted you on the earlier show this week about the fact that you said blimp in the radar. Yep, blip. It's something that's the same thing. Did you think it was blimp or did you misspe?

No, I just misspeak. Are you sure? Yeah. You didn't think it was a blimp? I miss speak. Yeah, I miss speak. I miss speak to blimp. All right, Mr. Concent. I mean, give it a break.

You're wrong again. Sorry. I don't always listen to you. Blimp. Did you say blimp? I said blimp, I guess. I tried to go with blip. I mean, we are blimp people.

Remember when we found out that they travel over 70 miles an hour? One of the more wild facts. We do talk about blimps more probably than any other podcast unless there's a blimp specific podcast. Somebody just sent me a video just a blimp ripping over like an old city and I loved it. Yeah. I'll never forget. I went down with the ice thing to the second floor in that hotel to fill up my ice. bucket and the guys like oh yeah we're big fans of the forplay show we work on the blimp team

I was like oh that's cool I said let me ask you question how fast that thing go or how do you get that thing from one event to the other you guys say we fly it what is yeah it goes 70 miles an hour holy shit nothing funnier in my mentions between the u.s open and the pj championship then people randomly taking picture of blimps and being like here it is it's on its way i wonder what that feels like it's heading across the country have you ever been in like An old Jeep where if you push it to 80, 85, you can feel it start to wobble a little bit. It doesn't feel safe? My original car was like that.

Same. If you push a blimp to 70 miles an hour, are you starting to feel the effects of what's going on outside or do you feel like it's comfortable? No, I think it's so high up in the air and it's like 70. I feel like you're not even moving, to be honest. Yeah, I would think that too. 70 miles an hour up there in the air is like nothing. Think about if you're in a plane that's going to fall out of the sky. You probably would fall out of the sky.

It's actually probably pretty horrifying being in a blimp. Blim setting sucks. because I think like 99% of it especially if you've seen the old footage of the Hindenberg yes especially you've seen that footage you are not a blimp fan no one who was a blimp pilot saw that at too early of an age because they're like

they're not scared of it now a good transition here quickly my grandfather has a piece of the Hindenberg he just jumped he just stomped out your train I had to mention that because I got to sit in here all day with a match trying to light this little fire

I just got it going you just came in with this big fucking lurchy feet stomped all over it. It's gone. All right. Do you want to do the now? What did you say, Lurge? I just said that my grandfather has a piece of the Hindenberg.

That's kind of cool. Very cool. I don't know, a piece of the side, piece of the blimp. Piece of the balloon. I got to tell you, not to call your grandpa a liar, but... I've seen it. Doesn't that thing just burn up? Yes, which is shocking that he has a piece, but, you know...

How did he get you run in there and grab it? How did he get a piece? He has this old bathroom that's got just tremendous... like old relics. And one is that he's got he was, my grandfather was a famous pilot, famous push pilot. He also has the first American flag,

I believe, to travel across the Atlantic Ocean in air, in a flight. Again, he might as just been a liar. No, no, no, no, it's signed by some serious people. It's very cool. According to who. Hey, gang. You just got to trust me on this one.

Okay, it sounds cool. I'll try to find some pictures and send him. Okay. Cool. Proofs in the pudding. That sounds cool. Like very cool. Almost too cool.

My grandfather was really good. He also, does he have the flag from the moon? Now you're mimicking my grandfather, who we call trapper. He's a beast. We're not mimicking. We're mocking just more you in the way that you're telling it. Well, I just think that it's a little mean that you guys don't believe what I'm telling you. How are there so many people in Hindenberg?

Huh? Where do they all sit? I think the thing under it is bigger than we're realizing. Yeah, then you give it credit for. Yeah, because that's always way up there. Is it 100 people in there? I want to say In a blimp,

there's like six pilots in a blimp. What was the Hindenberg doing? He was flying. I don't know. It wasn't transporting anything, right? It's just air. I really don't know.

What is the Hindenberg? I've been too afraid to ask. I mean, I know what it is. That is a spectacular explosion. I'm looking at this thing. What was it? There's video of it, no?

Yeah, but what happened? It was an airship. A ship like, it's just transported people? Yeah. Like it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't like wasn't like, it wasn't getting sky shots

of a Super Bowl. I doubt that's what it was. It wasn't on its way until the U.S. open. Was it built for the military or is it built for transportation? It was Nazi, right? No. It wasn't.

Maybe next topic. I'm really sorry. I cut you off on that little matcher. It was such a perfect little transition. That thing was Nazi as fuck. So tell us about your grandfather. That's your last name? Let's not get into all the details.

Yeah. Boy, oh boy. Hit that transition. Unless you like that match. Riggs looks deep into Hindenburg Wikipedia. He's a history guy too, so we can't stop reading. It was German, but it went down in New Jersey. So it's not surprising maybe that a lurch relative would have this thing.

Okay. Alerchy relative. All right. I'm sorry. I already feel it all. I already feel guilty about questioning your grandfather. So speaking. Another fact.

Oh, my grandfather. No way. This is great. At one point, they were trying to quarantine in the city so people couldn't get in and out. And he was like the only pilot that they let land, I believe, on Pier 46 to prove that you could get things in and out of the city without letting people come in and out of the city. Okay. Speaking of Blimps. All right.

And we're going to fly private on Friday morning. Yeah. Flying down to the Jake Owen Foundation event. Jake, our good friend Jake sent us a plane, which is really an incredible thing in and of itself. but it got us talking on radio yesterday about will our private plane crash is where a lot of people are talking about. There's a pretty decent chance we go down. So we were doing some research and we were talking about it and it says five small plane crashes crash every day.

It's an outrageous staff. One went down in Atlanta this morning. Correct. This morning? One went down in New Jersey yesterday. Yeah. We're just another statistic. That's all we are, guys.

It's a very exciting thing that we get to be able to. to have the opportunity to do it. Thank you, Jay going. Right. Big thanks. Yeah, yeah, yesterday during radio, it kind of took a dark turn, but I think we're going to be okay.

And people are going to clip that now if it doesn't go okay. But like, what can you do? Figures from the National Transportation Safety Board indicate that a staggering 97% of aviation fatalities occur in general aviation, not in commercial flights. What we are partaking in on Friday morning is general aviation. According to ABC News,

there is an average of five small plane crashes each day, resulting in approximately 500 deaths annually. Understandably, the NTSAB placed the concern of general aviation on its list of most wanted safety improvements. In fact, the NTSB believes that such crashes could actually be avoided with proper training. Speak if you want to fly commercial. One of the big things, the numbers, I don't know where the numbers fall on this. A lot of people are saying that some of those crashes are from people who own planes and they're like, I wanted to become a pilot.

I hope so. So I'm going to try. But when you get the numbers for professional pilots flying private planes, it's the numbers, it's pretty normal. It's pretty standard. Is that just a theory or do you know that? It's a mix of both. Okay. I hope and think that you're correct.

How much? Sorry. This plane that I did see that went down in Atlanta today. Yeah. I looked up the model and it's like a little rinky dink plane. I think it seats like two, maybe four people, including the pilot. And it's a lot smaller of an operation. I think ours is like a private fucking.

jet with real pilots. I said, as long as we get up and away from all the birds and anything that may impact these small little engines, I think we're fine. I think the takeoff is the biggest part. Frankie did have the very profound point that the takeoff is the most part, which, I mean, the last two incidents that we talked about, which again, no RIP to everyone, that's terrible stuff, but those, they crash, like, right after takeoff. Yeah.

So I think if we take off well, we're in good shape. Hey, once we're up above the clouds, it's over. We're fine. We're smooth sailing. Champagne? I mean, at that point, as long as a wing doesn't fall off, you're golden. Honestly. Do wings fall off?

Probably, man. I'll be staring at those wings the whole time now. I said, when I'm in that plane, I'm going to now think that it's just going to drop in the middle of the middle. There's a picture on Jake Owen's Instagram of him getting off a jet. And I don't know if this is his jet or a charter or whatever. But it looks substantial this thing. Okay. So I think we're all fine.

Yeah. I'm nervous and I've always been nervous about flying. But like I've now with this job, I've learned to like just. I have to just like take it and like just do it. And like we take a lot of private flights with Dave and we'll take these little fucking things into West Virginia and like Pittsburgh and like small little areas. And Buffalo, we took one that was horrifying. Saratoga. I took one that was really scary.

Like as long as it's just a little bit bigger than what those small ones are, then I'm going to be fine. The small ones are a death trap to me. I will say a lot of people keep pointing out like, oh, Jake Owen's playing. I don't think like I don't think Jake Owen sends for us the same plane that they send. end for Jake Owen. Agreed. No. Good point.

Unless there's like, unless like Jake Owens are already going to be in Florida and his plane is in New York from when he came here. I don't think he has a plane. Like I get that Jake Owen's a star. I don't think Jake Owen has a plane. I think he has like an account or whatever with like these private aviation and he can hook people up and he gets taken care of. But I don't think Jake Owen owns a plane.

Yeah. And he's like, he's like, oh yeah. Send that up for the four play boys. I don't. My guess is that that's not. what's happening. Right. I don't know, man, but like you could they, he could. Like, I don't know, like, we looked into like, get, like, like, like, like, Dave, like, once looked at prices, like, what would it, what would it cost? We were just arguing. We were just like, our, we were, like,

debating, like, what it would cost. And I remember it being, like, if you were, like, pretty wealthy, which I think Jake fucking Owen is at this point, like, I think you could get it done. I'm pretty sure. I, I just don't think it would make sense, because I feel like a huge piece of the cost and, like, why planes go down is because they're not looked after. And so if you do the shared account with whatever company. Then you just split all those charges of maintenance, upkeep, whatever goes into looking after a plane. And I think that's why we're 100% safe.

I wouldn't say 100%. 100%. 99. It seems really, really high. And I had said this yesterday, but I'm a little concerned about it being Jake Owen's rented jet. And if it goes down, we're in it. He's not.

People think that he's in it. And people are like, oh, my God, I can't believe Jake Owen. I love his music. And then they're like, oh, he wasn't on it. And then they're like, thank God, Jake Owen's alive. And our bodies are just, you know, in some field in North Carolina. And it's like, nobody cares about us. We kind of, we get buried a little bit.

No, no pun. A little bit. Big time. Not only are we getting buried, but the tweets are all going to be like, oh, my God, I'm so happy. Thank God Jake Owen's okay. Yeah. After that scare this morning.

And meanwhile, we're just still dead. What do you think the CNN headline is? Turns out Jake Owen's fine. Because for the first hour, it'll be Jake Owen's probably playing those down before. before they combed to the wreckage and they reach out to Jake Owen and it's like, oh, he's not on there. And then is it just plane goes down

or is it podcasters on plane? I'm not worried about that. I'm just wondering what it would say. When podcasters go down, 70s Cohen, Jay Cohen's fine. Because if Frank goes down on a plane on the way to a college football show, it's founder Dave Portnoy plane goes down.

With us, we're all general nobody's in the grand scheme of things. So it's like, I'm just curious what it would be. We don't have to batting around, but what do you think? We'll never find out. What do you think it would do to the downloads of this particular podcast? Through the Root. Especially this episode in a long, long time.

This clip would get played. They'd be like prepare yourself for this eerie clip of podcasters talking about what happens. Yeah, it'd be on CNN everywhere. Die on a plane crash. Dick J. Cohen died on a plane board. I'll give them a little excerpt here. I don't want to die on this plane. Please don't make me go on it.

Oh. God. I already have seen that being broadcasts in homes all across America. Yeah. My name is Frankie Borelli. I work at Parcel Sports. And if I die in this plane crash, tell everyone that I know I love them.

Oh! That's horrifying, dude. You guys are talking your way out of the producer. I might not get you another thing. Yeah, man. Like, play that shit on the news. I love you all. Now I can't not say it.

I mean, to anybody I know. I love you. Absolutely going down. Yes. No. I disagree with that. All right, here's the other thing. I want the New York Islanders to maybe wear some sort of patch or at least, or at least,

or at least do something on the big screen for the game that is after I die. I want. Friday night there's a game against Tampa Bay. Put my name up. It would mean a lot to me if the boss man made some kind of comment about us dying. Maybe he wears a ribbon. I don't even know if he has to go that far, but if he just made a comment of like, yeah, I really heard about those guys.

I know they're big fans. I like them a lot. That would go. This is all funny games, but we're actually getting on a plane, which could actually fall down. 97% of aviation fatalities, Frankie, are in the type of aviation that we're like to like it's going to fall down. And I will say when these things fall down, they don't get back up.

No chance. And neither do we. So anyways, that's Friday morning. And we've got a hell of a trip. We're going to be at Vero Beach for three days. Then we're going to North Carolina. We're going to be all over that damn state. Pinehurst, Tobacco Road we're playing.

and then we're going to Aiken, South Carolina, and we are visiting our good buddy, Kevin Kisner, for the Kisner Foundation event. You can go check out our tweets and our Instagrams about how you can get involved in a raffle, how you can get involved in Kisner's Foundation to help he and his wife and his foundation out for the great work that they're doing for kids.

We're going to be there helping out as much as we can as well. We're the only media invited to the Kisner event. We'll be all over that damn place. So come Friday morning, if we land in Vero Beach safely, we will be partaking in about a 10-day trip. Yeah, so let's break that down real quick, what we're doing. We get down on Friday when we're playing Quail Valley. Is that the golf club?

Yep. So anyone that knows that in Vero Beach, Florida, the place looks sick. I mean, there's like island greens everywhere. There's people walking on top of bridges to get to the greens. Looks awesome. Then what's like the right? So Friday evening's kind of up to us. I think we're able to just kick it in the Euro Beach.

Or we're playing Friday morning. Friday at like noon. Gotcha. There's like a shotgun. It's part of the. Jake Owen thing. We're going to be hanging out with him. Then afterwards, you know, I mean, we're kind of, we're friends with Jake Owen. So I don't know if he invites us to like hang out with him Friday night. If we just hit the town on our own, we go to the beach and just relax. And they

bring some of those hangover drinks. There you go. And then Saturday is the actual big concert and like barbecue and all that. So Jimmy Buffett's playing. And then, uh, just like Jimmy Buffett is not just playing. He's playing an acoustic 30 minute set for like a private party. Correct. Which is outrageous. My tattoo is Jimmy Buffett, the first four notes of one of Jimmy Buffett's songs. Yeah, because he's a huge storm. We talked about this last year. Oh, hey, no.

You are relaxed with that. My parents listen to this. Oh, shit. I mean, you were grateful dead. No, it's fine. Yeah, you were grateful. You're not hiding anything. No one's looking at you, Jake, and being stunned that that's, you know.

This could be on the final show. I'm just going to turn my mic off. You're a free spirit, man. That's cool. Yeah, this could be if we do go down one of the all-time, loaded box. Just heads up 100% chance rain tomorrow morning when we take off. Friday?

Yes. 100% chance? Yeah. You'd never see 100. 100. What a balsy call from the media. Just call the shot like 100% when you boys are taking off. I will say it feels like it's more likely you go down when there's bad weather.

This doesn't help my case, but that's actually tomorrow morning, not Friday morning. Okay. So Drake tried to do a little thing where he guessed what day it was going to be when this released and he messed up. Okay. That's good, though. Friday's probably That's your great mess up.

Oh, thank goodness. We'll take that. Can we get some Friday? So we're doing Quail Valley on Friday. Playing golf. Saturday is the whole Jake Owen Foundation event, which we're there. We're going to have cameras.

We're going to be filming and interacting and hanging out. We're not playing in the event Saturday. There is no golf Saturday. Oh, I thought that's what you were just saying. I thought there was like an extra event Saturday. I've misread that. No, no. Can I just explain the thing real quick?

No. Anybody interrupting at one point in the show would be really cool. Okay. So then Saturday, like I said, there's like a there's you know people pay a good amount to come to this thing get to interact and hang out with jake o'n and a couple other country music stars and then go to this concert and again it's all the proceeds he has a foundation does a lot of great work jake owen then will be on stage he's doing a concert at vero beach and he asked after hanging out with us at the uh barstful classic

championship if frankie and myself would introduce him at the concert and like interview him for a couple minutes about what that means the foundation and and like have a lighthearted chat with him. So I think that we're kind of going to be on stage with Jake Owen at his concert in his hometown, introducing and like chatting with him for a couple of minutes. Sure. Sounds great.

And the Jimmy Buffet thing's happening, all of that. Then we wake up Sunday. We are flying to Raleigh, North Carolina. We're getting situated Sunday. Monday, we're going to be at Tobacco Road. And then Monday night, we're going over to Pinehurst. We're going to be a Pinehurst Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night.

We're going to be playing different courses. We're going to be filming. We're being all kinds of cool shit. And then we're buzzing right over to Aiken, South Carolina, Friday morning. I think we're going to Palmetto. We're meeting Kiz and Tyler Farr there, who's the headlining Kisner's Foundation concert on Saturday night. We're hanging out with Kiz and the crew. There's a bunch of PGA tour pros that are going to be there.

We're the only media invited. Saturday is a whole deal. They're doing like a clinic, Dewey and Kiz, who we're obviously very tight with. Then there's like a cocktail hour. Then there's like a VIP dinner. I'm emceeing that, so I'll be chit-chatting with kids up on stage and maybe a couple other pros. Then there's a big concert. And then Sunday we finally fly home.

I think that's November 10th. So we got a hell of a stretch coming up. We'll be doing two podcasts per usual live on the trip. So we'll be updating everybody on what the hell's going on. And that's kind of the situation. I'm excited. It's hell of a trip. It's crazy.

I'm going to be so jealous on Sunday. So for the listeners out there, I won't be able to make it due to my real job. On Sunday when I leave you and you are headed to Pondon. Well, you are making it to Vera Beach. Yes, yes. Sorry. So I'll be down with you there. Viro will have a great weekend.

Sunday. I'm actually headed to Chicago for a conference. That will be a sad time. I dropped off a large bag of laundry at my laundry place this morning. Just hoping that I have enough to get me through the trip. That's my biggest concern right now. I think I got it. I counted everything out.

I think I got enough to cover it. But it's just a lot of laundry that I gave to my person this morning. I'm smart I still need to do laundry and it's probably not going to get done and I'm going to just arrive on a 10 day trip with a lot of dirty and imperfect clothing options

I've done that if I know the Airbnb has a washer and dryer I'll just throw dirty clothes in my golf bag and just do it as soon as I get there that's not a bad idea I just I'm trying to plan ahead but it's probably going to go haywire I mean especially with our like same unit washer and dryer in our apartment it's pretty much worthless

So you just, I mean, if he's a week out and he hasn't started yet, there's no chance he can get it done. Five hours it takes to do the dryer, five hours. And 14 minutes. You guys don't do wash and full in New York City? No, no. We have a washer dryer in our apartment. But not really. But no, but really, we do.

Yeah. Yeah, but you know what I mean. Good things take time. No, but I go to, so I drop my laundry off of this place right across the street from my apartment. I dropped it off there this morning on my way to work. When I get home, it'll be in the lobby of my building, ready for. for me to take up. And it's just, it's a ton of laundry.

And it gets done. Put it cost money, though. Yeah, but like, I would pay triple of what they charge me right now instead of having to go through what you guys go through every time you do laundry. But for me, it's really not that hard. You throw it in, you hit the button. You sit down on the couch. And then when it's out, you like change it and put it on dryer mode.

And then when it gets out, you just take it out and fold it. You're ready to go. I get there like, yeah, sometimes you have to steam a couple of things, but we've gotten a little bit better at it. And it's really not the way we do. And the main thing that you wash is just you run your socks and your boxers through it all the time. All right.

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uh hopefully he's somehow finds his way on the team. I know Dustin Johnson, Brooks Kepka, nursing some injuries. I imagine they'll be fine and ready to play. Maybe Kepka's is a little more serious because he had an actual operation on it. And let's be honest, the President's Cup is not more important than the tournament starting up in January and February and getting ready for the masters and all that good stuff. If that's the case, I think we may need someone to be injured for kids to get on the team, which again, you don't want to root for someone to get injured, but you do want to root for kids to get on the team. I think that like the way... The injury has already happened,

we can we're okay with that right yeah you're not looking for just hoping they don't push themselves you know yeah just don't recover so fast yeah take it easy take it easy so the way that i see it i think tiger gary woodland um ricky fowler and there's another name and i'm forgetting like i don't know how they're not on the team who would all have to be captain's picks uh which would be a tough break for kids but i do think he's right there and i think that he again with his matchplay prowess uh with how good he was and how much of a locker room guy he is they all like him a lot the fact that he drives the ball, straight puts the ball really well.

I think he'd be a good addition, but we'll see. So we're rooting for kids. Obviously, next time we do the show, we should know. Some people are making the argument that Tiger shouldn't play, not because he's not good enough or anything like that, but because he really, if he has to pick his spots, which we've talked about a lot on the show, do you want him playing in the Bahamas right up through Saturday

and then flying across the world, or, as Frank, you would say, to a different country? Yeah. for the President's Cup in Australia and then having to play in that last time he did something I guess that we would consider similar was like when he went to Dubai straight from what California and withdrew and had surgery and then got DUIs and almost died

so we don't want that no we do not that is what happens I want to exit that plan quick yeah let's avoid that part that you did but yeah I mean I mean we want to watch him play that's the thing big time that's the selfish part of us where it's like I want to see him play in the President's Cup.

And we're going to be down there, so I'd like to chat with him. Yeah. I do agree. I mean, we will. He'll be there no matter what. Yeah, I agree with him as a player. If we're picking our places, I don't need him playing in the President's Cup. That's sort of a lot of people's theory.

That's a lot of people's theory of like, I almost wouldn't be that upset if he just didn't pick himself. Right. Yeah, because he's going to be there and we're going to be there. That would be our biggest thing, but he's going to be there no matter what. Even if he's like, even if he's not playing, it's almost like better for us if he's just like walking around. I don't know that that matters that much. No? Maybe.

I mean, yeah, I guess it would give us a couple more windows. More opportunities. Yeah, of opportunity. Not like locked in. He's more like Coach Tiger as opposed to. I feel like he's going to take Coach Tiger. Captain Tiger very seriously. True.

Like he does not want. He does not want an L on his record. That's got to be. I don't care how good of a golfer you are if you're Justin Thomas. Any of these guys that like I know that they're nailed and that they have, you know, they've played against Tiger and they've done better than Tiger in tournaments. I saw the Joker with him. They saw the Joker with them.

They're buddies with them. Eight Domino's with him standing up. A captain tiger standing behind you in like a quarter zip and like a earpiece and his hat just like in his sunglasses and he's watching you hit a shot like for your for his team. That's a nerve-wracking swing. Yes. I don't care where you've been in your life, what tournaments you've won, how many majors you've won. Tigerwood's standing right behind you knowing that he has no, he's not doing anything else but watching you and how you produce that day is nerve-wracking. Is your computer about to take off?

It's doing it again? Yes. We saw him with the last president. It's so distant and explodes. We saw him at the last President's Cup and he was all business. All white. All business. Earpiece and everything.

So, yeah, he's an intimidating figure out of that. That was just a couple months, like a month before he then teed it up at the hero and looked great. Yes. And started the run that he's now on where he has won the Masters and reached 82 career wins, which really should be the most old time because we went to, we're not going to go into that. No. But I'm someone tweeted at me scams, Sneed. Yeah, pretty good.

That's funny. Real good, actually. Which we would call him if we cared and were in the business. I think we can come out with scams need shirts. Scams, Sneed Army. It's not bad. Davis Love the 3rd has been added to the CBS team. We talked on last show about how Costas and McCord are out.

They were surprisingly to moat many people not renewed. Their contracts were not renewed. They went with Davis Love the 3rd. He's won 21 times. on the PGA tour, including 1997 PGA Championship, capped in the U.S. Rider Cup team twice, 2012, where they collapsed at Medina and 2016, where they won at Hazeltine.

He'll make his broadcast debut for CBS at the Farmers Insurance Open, which Frankie predict it Speeth would win. Yep, Jordan Spee. In late January, and he'll also be included in the network's coverage of the Masters and the PGA championship. Kind of a weird move. When we talked about this on the last show,

the theory was they're going to get some young blood in there, and they went and did it. They got 55-year-old Davis-Love as opposed to 72-year-old Gary McCord or Peter Costas. So, okay. Yeah, again, not, I don't think anybody's out there like hate the movie. He's going to be terrible. But it's more just, why would you get rid of those guys and then get in somebody that doesn't necessarily check a lot of different boxes? Got to be cheaper.

Yeah, more, maybe like, yeah, we're Costas and McCord, like coming in with, like, we want all this a ton of money. I don't know. Because it didn't seem like they left on good terms. I mean, McCord started to hit some pointed comments of like, you know, this really wasn't my decision. Like, I wanted to stay and it wasn't loud. Stale. I think the word he used was that they said they got rid of him because they didn't want the coverage to be stale or something like that.

It's a pretty hard knock. You can leave the grapes out for too long or something like that. Imagine that meeting. I could have just made that out. We just broke not true news. I could have just made that out. We just broke a lot. But I love picturing, I don't love picturing it, but walking into the,

the negotiations and there's just a big whiteboard behind him that just says stale on it. You love picturing that? No, I don't, I wish I hadn't used that adjective, but it's, I find that entertaining to picture, I suppose. Not that it's someone's job at stake. You make the stale comment up? I, I, trying to pick it up. He said something, and it was a word like stale that could have been stale, but I just don't

know. Okay. So for the listeners. Static? No, I don't know. I don't know. I'm coming too static. I know.

It was something along those lines. Man, I know it was. I can't find it. I'm panicking. But anyways, you get the gist. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Folks have gotten the gist.

Yeah. Of what happened. So you will see Davis Love on your television. He's going to be right there on your TV. During CBS broadcast. And then the Asian swing, I think, concludes this week. WGC, China in Shanghai. So look out for that.

It'll be another kind of wild timing with, you know, nighttime golf, essentially. So if you, If that gets you all hot and bothered, get excited for that. I believe that that's pretty much all I have. I did see one headline just as we came in here. I didn't add it to the list or anything, but there was a it's golf.com anonymous pro survey. So they asked polling was conducted to the Safeway Open in September.

Over two days, each player was asked 46 questions among the respondents, a bunch of two or ones of that. One of the spiciest topics on this year's survey regarded playing partners. Who's the most and least enjoyable guy to get paired with? Who do you guys think the least, or the most desirable person to get paired with on the PJ tour is. Bryson. No, most.

Oh, most desirable? Most desirable. Who do they want to play with? Kisner? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's number one.

Number one? Said among the preferred partners, Kevin Kisner, Charles Howell of the third, Harold Varner the third, received the most votes earning 9, 7 and 7% of the total total tell respectively. Kisner got nine.

Wow. He's number one, our guy. That's no surprise to us. That's something. Isn't that great? Yeah. That's awesome.

What are the odds that two of the thirds are in there and the most preferred? I guess there's something about people who are the third that's really good. Yeah, Charles Howell and Harold Varner. Is that because you're the third? That's correct. Yeah. Should I put the third thing in my name all the time? Probably.

Yeah, I think it's, it makes you distinguished. Frank, you can work with your mausolel and how you go about certain things. It would definitely help. Maybe we start calling you Trey. Trey. F.B. Trey. It's up Trey. Good point, Trey.

F-B-T-T-R. You're like a president. F-B-T-R-R-E-R-E-R-F-B-T-T-R-E-R-F-B-T-R-E-R-E-Y. I might start calling you Trey. Sounds like you have to wrap, though, with that. I'm too, yeah. I'm too milky to call me T-B-R-E-Y. Yeah, but just T-R-E-Y, and then you're just kind of like a...

No, I'm the third. Right. We'll call you Trey. Don't call me Trey. And then when it comes to least favorite playing partner is the most common response was anyone who plays slowly, and then it was Bryson D. shambo and uh rory sabatini damn and and martin laird

that's not a list you want to be on anytime you're on the list with uh rory sabatini that's the wrong rory you don't want to be on that list yeah but our guy kisner that's i thought that was great he's proof that we are uh all right yeah i was touching my mic i always do that i fidget with things andrew just can't he did he didn't say anything he pawed me away he he pawed you um yeah Kevin kisner

anybody doesn't ball of yarn at the end of the it did it's like there's a ball of yarn and Trent just can't stop you I do. We were doing like a thing in here yesterday, like a little meeting of the pot, and I was playing with a ball, and you had to, like, you had to push it down. It was blocking our view of each other. I was talking to Riggs through a volleyball. And Trent was just holding it up at the perfect height so that I wouldn't see it.

You actually, like, it was like a strain on your arms. It was like when you sit down at dinner and the giant flowers are between you and the one person you're eating dinner with. And you're like, well, what are we doing here? And I'd move and Trem would just move the ball a little bit, like, to further block my. I'm a little fidgety. Riggs, you weren't wrong with a stale comment, actually. No, I know. I was right.

Oh, good. We think CBS is getting a little stale. We need to go in another direction. McManus is the CBS exec who said this, or who's quoted is saying this. I think stale, they might have mistaken stale for comfort. Like, I think when people turn on CBS, maybe they like hearing McCord and Costa. It's like a comfort food when you know what you're getting. I'm not saying that they made the right or wrong decision,

But it's like when you turn on CBS, you kind of know, I'm going to get this guy, I'm going to get that guy. Maybe they thought that was stable. What's a comfort food for you? I like it. I like a comfort food. I was thinking like a comfort like a good like soup, like a thick, creamy soup. Like what's up? It's raining outside.

You're like a little down in the dumps. You're like, you know what? I'm just going to, I'm going to eat like my comfort food. I'm going to make myself feel good. Vanilla ice cream. Yeah? Oh, yeah. I'll go walk right across the street.

There's an asson across the street and myself a nice tub of vanilla ice cream. Anything on it or just plain? I love it plain. Wow. I mean, if they have some... Yeah, if they have a little syrup or something that piques my interest that day, fine. I'm not against it. I do like sprinkles a lot.

Okay. Feels a little childish, but I mean, that's what we're doing. That's all right. What's yours? F.B. Trey. You know... Don't feel weird about what you're going to say. You look nervous.

You look like you're about to change it because you don't think it's going to be... Human remains. Like, I'm a cannibal. I'm now coming out as a cannibal on this podcast. I'd say mine is like cookies. I love it. I love it. Is it like comfort food though?

No, when I think of comfort food, I think of like something in a crock pot. I think of a roast or or stir-friam chowder or chili, something like that. Exactly. Something that once you eat it, you're shut down. Okay. You're on the couch with like a blanket. For me in that category, it's home. My mom's homemade chili.

Yeah. And she puts a big thing of sour cream in the middle. You take chit down. chips and I can sit in front of the TV, like, watching football. Shut it down. And just, like, you get the scoop of the, of the scoops, the tostito scoops, gets a little bit of the chili and the sour cream. Yeah, my mom makes a, my mom makes a great clam chowder.

So whenever I, whenever I do that, like when I'm home, she makes clam chowder. Fresh clam chowder in Iowa. Yeah. You wouldn't believe it, but straight from the bay. Yeah, just fish it right out of Palo Lake. and you just I don't know I never really thought about it

to be honest until now but it's just delicious he put a bunch of crackers in it and it's just you shut down afterwards that's the food

you're looking for yeah Frankie painted it to me like when you're depressed like you're like a divorcee what are you doing and that's why I'm with ice cream

well no I think ice cream could be a comfortable food like a tub of ice cream do you want to change do you want to do a different answer like when girls have their when girls have like their period

they always like to sit down their ice cream why you're laughing why did it Jake What did you just say? I mean, say it again and try not to laugh. When girls get their period, they like to sit there and eat ice cream, tubs of ice cream.

Why is that bad? Why is that bad? Is that just the truth? I don't know. I don't think that's true on the root. That's not stereotyped. That's not stereotype. This is when other people just back out of the room.

There's nothing wrong about saying that. Well, he said comfort food. It's all in all the movies, right? they're sitting there. It's all the movies. It's like, yeah, like a girl.

How many movies do you see with that? Dude, there are movies in which a girl sitting there in her like pajamas and eating a tub of ice cream and they're like talking to their friends like I'm like have mood swings and stuff. Am I the only person that's ever seen this? I'm not familiar with that scene. That's like when they like get broken up with her.

They're pregnant. Not like. Correct. Which is why I went with the divorcee kind of thing earlier and you went a different direction. Direction. They say golf is 90% mental. Which means even the small.

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All right, we are now joined by a very special guest, a man who has become a good friend of mine. You probably know him as Link's Gems. He's all over social. He's all over Twitter and Instagram. John Cavalier is his real name. Do you ever feel like a mystery figure? A little bit.

Yeah, a little bit. I mean, it's like you have an alter ego on the social media. And it gets a little weird sometimes. But yeah, I feel like, I feel like Link's Gems has developed its whole personality on its own. And now I've got to be two people at one time. Link's Jim's like your character. That's right. Yeah, John's like who you really are.

I don't like knowing your real name. I know, Frankie. I know Frankie still wishes I was just a mystery man with no face. I thought that Link's Gems was just a camera at one point. And he had some sort of software that allowed him to put up pictures with incredible captions. But I found out he's a real living person. He's a delight. He's a delight to be around.

He is. Well, that's kind of you. That's kind of you. I am sorry, though, to actually have to put a face to the name. Your pictures are so insane. For anyone listening, we talked about Links Jems. How many times? I mean, we talk about Link's Jems probably every single show.

I mean, I get mad on this show because he's, doesn't have nearly enough as me. You should have two million followers. You should have two million followers. No, that's kind of you to say. And you guys have been incredibly kind to me and generous. And I know that we now have a lot of follower overlaps since a good chunk of my guys have come from from your stuff. So thank you for that. Absolutely. Try to help you out a little bit. Every time you mention me on your pot or on your channels, I wake up in the morning and I see that I have hundreds of new followers and I automatically assume that somebody at Barstool must have given me a shout out because otherwise there's

no explanation. So it's always fun. appreciate that. Absolutely. So you've got incredible work. You've got 48,000 followers on Instagram. We've got 29,000 on Twitter. Were you originally on Twitter only? Yes. Yeah. So it was a real stretch for me to even get on Twitter in the beginning. And my friends finally convinced me to do it. I was very much against it, which looking back is now incredibly stupid. But, you know, so I did Twitter at first. And we can talk about this a little bit. But Twitter lends itself to the blurbage that I like to do on my photos, the little write-ups. All the captions are. That's right. You know what I always. say. That's right. That's right. For the photos. Stay for the captions. Absolutely. So,

Instagram came later when it became obvious that people were into the photos, which was really great to see. And so, you know, Instagram obviously lends itself more to a photo sharing platform. So I got on Instagram, I want to say maybe four or five months after I started my Twitter account. And since then, Instagram has sort of taken off past the Twitter account. So as you see there, it's now almost double what I what I do on Twitter, which is fine. they both kind of serve different audiences, which is good. So how did you, I mean, how did you originally get into the social media game? How did you get into like, because you have to have been taking, you know, photos and photography

has to have been a big part of your life for a long time. When were you like, okay, I'm going to turn this into some golf social media action? So I was always a gadget guy, even more so than a photo guy. You know, I always like the technical toys that we all play with nowadays. I know you just got your drone and your new camera. So you know where I'm coming from. I'm a gadget guy too now. Absolutely.

So, you know, photography and gadgets nowadays sort of go hand in hand. So I've always sort of wanted to stay involved in that. I mean, I have a past life as a tech guy, which sort of lends itself to the same kind of thing. And I got into taking golf photos just sort of offhand. I was playing these better courses, and I wanted to do something to memorialize them and to have them for myself. So I just started taking pictures. And it turns out that golf courses tend to photograph really well. So I took some of us sharing them on websites like Golf Club Atlas here and there or sharing them with the clubs.

But I did want to do something with them really for myself to kind of put them out there and generate some conversation about them and have some people talk about them. And just let people see like, hey, look, if you're in this area, this is a great course to play and here are some photos of it. So I started a Twitter account. And from there, it just kind of, I certainly never intended or expected for it to turn into anything like it has become. So it's been a really fun ride in that respect. Was Link's Jim's the original name? So honestly, it's sort of nice to have now that it's become almost a little bit of a brand. But had I known it was going to turn into something like this, I probably would have put a little bit more thought into the name.

But yes, that's the first one I came up with. I think it's perfect. It's simple. It gets right to the point. It's short. You know, that's what I was going for. But I still remember. I mean, I came up with the name as I was walking my dog around the block one night thinking like, all right, well, I got to do a Twitter account.

I don't want to just put my name on it. What can I do that's both golf related and photo related? you know, I have a tendency to call really nice golf courses gems, and I've always done that. So, you know, Link's gems. There it is. Really good. Not a whole lot of background or market research into that name before the fact, though.

It's just so easy to say. So I'm a huge hockey fan, Islander fan, and I actually sent your account to many of the Islanders, and they now, before games, will just share. They're like, you see Links Gem just put up, you know, Bay-owned, and that's like that's how they get ready for Islander games. Like Brock Nelson is the biggest linkshams fan of all time. It's crazy.

It's crazy. These pictures are just so good that you can't. I find myself going back and just going through your, I've seen the pictures 10 times. I just re-look at them. Yeah, because you scroll for hours. It's even easier on Twitter, I like it more because you can click on the photos and they become like full size on your computer. Remember when he started dabbling in those, the panoramic slideovers? I mean, I know what you're doing over there.

How often do you, like, do you, do you? do you kind of reach out, jump out, dabble with like some new stuff, like the panos? Is that always like, oh, my followers are going to run out? When you debuted the panos, I dropped my phone. They came out nicer than I expected. That worked out really well. And it's sort of hilarious. But my wife, who is a big Instagram user, actually drives a lot of this stuff.

I mean, I riggs bust my stones all the time about the stories. Like, I don't really know how to do Instagram stories, which is pathetic. It's on my sheet to ask you about that. It's good. I'm glad. We can talk about it. He's on a mission. His wife has him on a mission to learn how to do Instagram stories. That's right.

So like every once in a while I'll either see something that I like or, you know, my wife will put up a post. I'm like, it's really cool. How the hell do you have a story with music playing and the lyrics and all that stuff? So I'll try or I'll dabble in that. And the, the panos came up the same way. And wouldn't you know it? But golf courses really lend themselves well to nice wide shots. And my shots are generally wider anyway.

I get crap from people sometimes because, you know, the Instagram crop is a more is a tall crop on the screen and I just ignore it and crop everything, you know, wide. So for Panos, it's perfect for me. So it worked out pretty well. Yeah. How obligated do you feel to like stick just to course photos? Like do you like, do you get, do you get pushback from your followers if you start to like takes out there on like Tiger or anything like that?

So, uh, I'm a Sixers fan. I'm from Philadelphia. So last year during the playoffs, I got a little carried away with the Sixers and threw up a picture of Joel Embeddead. after they won a game. And the amount of shit that I got for going off brand taught me to never, ever do that again. So, you know, you'll see some pictures of my dog on golf courses. Sometimes I drag my dad with me to golf courses, but it's pretty unlikely that you're going to

see anything on my account that has to do with anything other than golfers. I can see a linkstress die hard just look like going through the feeling. He got a notification. Link steps, but I know a picture. And he goes to what the hell is this shit. Right. I get shit for it. I like that the way.

Where's a bunker? Like if you want to involve other parts of your life, you have to drag those people onto a golf course. Like, come on mom, come on, dad. Like, if we're going to take a picture, we got to be on golf course. Absolutely. He's like, he gets a new job. He's like some personal news and he's just holding a folder on a golf course. That's right.

That's absolutely right. It will involve golf somehow. So what's the daily routine look like with, do you like schedule outposts? I think like the evening time is when your stuff comes out. Money hour. Yep, that's the money hour. So what's your, do you like write the captions in the morning? Do you think about them all day long?

When do you, when do the captions materialize in Link's Jim's brain? So my, my daily workflow is I go to my real job every day, or most days, if I'm not playing golf. And I come home, I do my, I fulfill my domestic responsibilities, you know, walk the dog, take care of the wife, have some dinner, all that stuff. She goes to bed early. I post up on the couch for a couple hours and I go through my photos, whatever strikes my fancy on a given day. Or if I played around that day, I'll pull some photos. If I'm feeling creative, I'll knock the blurbs out right there. Sometimes I get writers block, and it is a huge pain in the ass to come up with something interesting to say about a particular golf course on a given day.

I mean, it can really, it can really take a while sometimes. Other times it's like got it, nailed it, done. So sometimes you're sitting there's sitting there like, come on, leagues, gems. That's right. You've got to have something to say. There's something interesting here. That's right. Sometimes I'll do some research, you know, I'll do a little Wikipedia reading or I'll go on golf club atlis or somewhere and do some searching.

come up with some kind of interesting fact to say. And hopefully it doesn't take too long. But sometimes it takes a while. Interesting. So I notice sometimes you post like right after you play. You can't help it. Right. And you just fire off.

That's the addiction showing through. That's right. Because you are, and I've told this story before, but the handful of times or whatever it is, six or seven times we've played together, you don't even make it home every time. You're like, I'm on the side of the road. I just edit it up and you'll start sending it just texting me photos.

That's right. And the beauty of playing up here a lot, is that there's always, you know, little rest stops and gas stations to pull off on the side of the road. So I know all of the, you know, the easy on, easy off gas stations. So that when I'm on my way home, you know, I'll pop the card in as I go. Once they're all transferred to the iPad, I know that maybe 20 minutes into the ride, I can stop, do a little editing, throw some photos out there, you know, send him over to Riggsie if he played that day. And, you know, we'll get it going that way. People at those rest stops probably seem like, there's that guy again.

What's he doing in his car? I think they probably, right. I think they're either used to be by now or they think that, you know, one of those guys just hanging out in rest stops doing strange things on a computer. So there's two things happening at rest stops. That's right. That's right. That's right. There's Jim's editing Sleepy Hollow and then there's a guy in a truck that hasn't like. That's right.

That's right. He hasn't felt the warmth of the of a woman in quite some time. Right. So he's either trolling Craigslist for some companionship or, you know. Or he's on like Adobe Photoshop messing around with like the color lighting. That's right. Yeah. So what's your – sorry, did you want to – did you want to explain that?

Please, Reiki. Go ahead. So what's your process when you get to a golf course, and, like, how do you know which holes to shoot? Where to – what's the best angle? Like, are you – do you do your homework before you get there? Like, what's your process? So, yeah, I try to. And a lot of it will depend on what I'm doing on a given day.

I mean, a lot of my photos come out of normal rounds. You know, some of the rounds I've played with Rigsie would be the same way. It's just you show up, you're playing golf, and the photos are sort of a byproduct of the round of golf. So if I'm playing at noon, I'm playing at noon, and the photos will come from that time period. Sometimes if I'm going to a course specifically to shoot, I will try to plan it out a little bit better. I like to shoot, obviously, early in the mornings, late at night, when the light is better. In a perfect world, if I'm really trying to shoot up a golf course, or if I'm there because the course is asking me to come to shoot photos for them,

or on some occasions hiring me to do that, I will sketch out the whole day. And I always like to play the golf course first because I feel like. in order to get interesting, compelling photos of a course, you need to have played the golf course. You need to know what the signature holes are. You need to know what the really, the best shots of the day are, where the interesting angles are, how the course generally gets played by most people. And I think those kinds of things can help you figure out what the compelling aspects of a golf course. Because otherwise, you're just out there shooting landscape photos. And they'll look pretty, but they won't really say much about the course.

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process and sort of mindset is during a round because I think a lot of people when they look at your photos probably think like man I want to start trying to take more photos and you and I you know that you and I both get this of people we tell them what cameras are used people go buy it and then you're like I want to take my own photos so just talk a little bit about like okay

what is your approach how often are you trying to be like I'm fully committed and in the round and engaging my playing partners but also I'm going to like you might not see me for 10 minutes I'm going to be over in the fucking weeds and in the trees taking photos sure so part of that depends on what course I'm playing I mean, if I'm playing a new course for the first time, it's really pretty and I don't have any photos of it,

I'm going to want to take more than I normally would. For a course that I've shot many times before, like Sleepy Hollow, the last round we played, I'll take less and I'll be focused on specific things. But I will tell you this. I mean, I've done this now so much that it has really become second nature. I mean, there's nothing that prevents me from playing around a golf and feeling completely engaged in it and also taking photos. Now, there is a difference between taking thousands of photos during a round that I might do if I was there just to shoot or if I was playing a new place. The first time I played Cypress Point, I took a million photos during the round. I didn't know if I'd ever be back, and it was just spectacular.

So the camera comes out and it fires for the entire round. And the round of golf is almost, I don't want to say secondary to that, but, you know, it's six of one, half dozen of the other. But really, it just comes with practice. I mean, it's like anything else with golf. I'm so used to it now that it really doesn't interfere at all. And there are sometimes where if I'm playing somewhere and I'm not at least thinking about shooting a photo here or there, it almost feels weird. So it's really just like anything else. It's practice, you know, that Malcolm Gladwell, 10,000 hours thing.

I mean, I've been shooting photos of golf courses for a hell of a lot longer than that now. So it just kind of, it's a process now that is almost like autopilot. I will say I've noticed now that I take and again I'm I mean I'm nowhere near and I want to get into this later too but I'm nowhere near I'm actually getting embarrassed when I send you photos I'm like I just feel like you're looking at it going like he went with that angle or like does he know if he waited 10 minutes for the sun how much better that I think about that but I also have noticed now that I'm I love taking photos that like any any even like remotely beautiful or compelling shot that I see in real life I feel like if I don't take a picture of it, I'm, like, rattled the rest of the day that I missed it. Sure. So how much of you, like, can you even go through your daily life now without, like, if you know, if you see something beautiful, like, I have to take a picture of that. It's, it's funny that you say that I was just up in Maine with my wife and I said the same thing to her. It's like you, you shoot photos as much as I do and we do now.

And it's almost like you can't help but look around and see things that would make a great photo. You know, you, you happen to look at a certain landscape and it's like, wow, I really wish I had my nice. camera. And it can get a little strange and a little uncomfortable sometimes, to be honest with you. It's just, it's weird that you're constantly seeing those kinds of things. So I completely take your point. And there are rare occasions on a golf course when for whatever reason I don't have a camera with me. And, you know, the sun comes out a certain way or a hole is looking a certain way and you're just like, damn, I would really like to be able to snap that thing right now and you can't do it. And that just, again, it sort of goes with that autopilot process I was talking about. You know, if something throws it off,

it can be disruptive, which is bizarre. When you're on the course, how important is it for you to take photos of just the golf course and not like people playing it? Because I very rarely do you post photos of anyone. It's always just the golf course. I don't like people in my photos. I don't like people in my photos.

People stink. Yeah. I mean, occasionally, if I'm playing with people and I want to snap a photo of somebody hitting a shot on a nice hole, I will do that on purpose. But, you know, the shots where guys are randomly out there walking around or the group in front of us is still on the green, I hate it.

It's like my little pet peeve. I can't stand seeing people in my photos. How much editing goes into your photos? As little as possible, to be honest with you, I hate editing photos. I find it to be incredibly boring. I shoot in JPEG, not raw, which a lot of, you know, I'm not a very technical photographer. You know, a lot of these guys who are into photos will talk for hours about the specs of their camera or about, you know, this new lens that they got is an F2.8, it is, you know, 72 millimeter zoom. And it's like I just, I don't, I am not into that stuff at all.

I like, I try to take a photo that captures what I see on a course. And the equipment is a way to do that, but it's not really the, the motivation behind it. I mean, I'm into the gear, but I am not that into the technical specs of it. So, you know, it's, the same goes for editing. I do everything on this pad right here, this iPad Pro that I use. I don't use a computer in my workflow. I certainly like to crop my photos to get it, you know, the frame to look the way I wanted to. and I'll tweak some levels and some curves and some brightness,

but it just takes far too long to edit batches upon batches of photos. And I just, the returns you get from it are not worth the time invested. It's a lot easier to get it right in the camera so that you don't have to do any of that boring work after the fact. Have you ever, have you like studied photography before? No. No.

Take any classes or anything? No. So how much of it do you attribute to just like, you just have like a natural vision and ability? because, you know, like I said, like I can take photos with the same equipment, and mine stink, and yours are phenomenal. I don't know that I'd agree with you that your photos stink. But, you know, the framing and you'll get like a tree in this part and the sun in this part and the lighting on that, and it's just like, holy shit, how did you see it like that? It's nice of you to say.

I do not know, and I do not really think that I would say that I have a natural talent for it, but I do have a lot of practice, and I do love golf, and I do love taking photos of golf courses, and I've taken countless photos of courses. And this is the same thing I tell people when they ask me. And I get asked a lot. You know, what can I do to take better photos? That's probably the number one question I get. My photos stink. I was standing in the same spot that you were on the same day that you were, took a photo, and it looks like shit.

Of course, it sounds like they're threatening you. Yeah, why, right. Like, what can I do? What is the secret? Right. What can I do to get this closer to that? And the answer is really just you've got to take a lot of photos. And after you've taken them, you've got to look at them and you've got to see, well, what worked in this photo,

what didn't, what looks better. why does this photo look good and this one stink? Is it is the the the zoom different? Is the the lighting different? Why does this look like I wanted to and this one looks like shit? And after you do that, dozens of times, you will start to realize in the moment, you know, this could be a really nice shot. But if I walked 50 steps over here and caught the light coming in this way, it will look how I wanted to look. And I think that's really the, you know, to the extent there is a secret. I think that's probably it. Yeah, I remember when we were out at fish, And we were doing like that we were doing emergency nine afterwards and I remember that you, you know, we were on like the fourth or fifth. I can't remember which one is the punchable? The fourth. The fourth. And, you know, and you had the drone out, which I want to get to your recklessness with the drone. Yes.

You had the drone out. And you had your nice camera out and all that. And we were going out of the next T and you basically, you made the comment of like, no, no, Riggs. I got to stay here. And you were like, in about five minutes, those clouds are going to clear. And these are going to be the money shots. And I was like, you know, and I was more focused on the golf than the photos and we were having a good match, whatever. And sure enough, you know, when you were going through your photos later, it was like that sun broke through and all that.

So I does feel like you have a very like this sense and sort of this understanding of like, no, those clouds are going to move in five minutes and this place is going to brighten up like you've never seen before. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, two things. First of, I had been to Fisher several times before. So, you know, you guys were playing it for your first time. And not only that, but as I recall, you were killing it during that emergency nine. So I get that you were focused on the golf. I do remember that very clearly.

I think it bears mentioning. Thank you. No problem. The other thing is I have wanted that aerial shot of the punch ball for years. Years. And it is not easy to get on Fisher's Island, number one, as I'm sure most of your listeners know. And beyond that, it's not easy to get there. And it's not easy to schedule.

It's on a little island in the middle of Long Island Sound. So the weather is not always all that cooperative. So I think I've been there five or six times over the last couple of years. and every single time there has been an issue. It's been cloudy. It's been foggy. It's been rainy. The sun wasn't coming out. The course was punched up. You know, something that would keep me from getting it.

So when we were over there that day, and I'm looking up at the sky, and I see the clouds passing, and I see some blue in the distance blowing over this way, you know, the nerd, the photography nerd in me got really perked up and was ready to pounce on that. And they came out pretty well. I mean, the photos, they sort of speak for themselves. So it was worth, it was worth the stuff. stay there. That was like, you ever seen the movie Gone in 60 seconds?

Absolutely. He talks about Eleanor the car. Precisely. That is what, that's what it sounded like you were describing. That is exactly what. Fischer's, that's how he describes it. I have wanted that photo. And there are not many photos where I'm really like, I got to get this at some point

in my life. That is a photo from over the water, looking back from the air that I've wanted for a long, long, long time. So I mentioned it earlier. You are, I believe, the most reckless drone flyer I've ever met in my life. but you're courageous with it you get the shots you are on what drone number now number seven you're on number seven you're on number seven I got two dead bodies in my car right from from prior drones one of them died at fishers that day that's right we didn't know it at the

time but it eventually two days later it fell out of the sky from 500 feet I was over at somerset hills that was uh that was fun but yeah drone number seven so let's go through I want to go through the you know, the life and the history of your drone. Okay. Drone, like one, what happened to drone one? So first of all, I was a very early adopter of drones for golf photography. I'm not going to say I was the first one doing it, but I was, it occurred to me very clearly early on that, like, this was a really great tool for showing a golf course.

So I, my first drone was like a DJI Phantom one, like the very first consumer photography drone that rolled out. And this thing was dangerous in and of itself. I mean, all the sensors you get on it now that will keep. keep it from running into trees and stuff like that, none of it. I mean, now it's like if you run out of batteries or whatever, the drone will come back automatically, none of that stuff. You had to manually set home points and, you know, manually tell it where to go if something bad

happened every single time you flew it. So that one, I think I was flying it in the city one night. This is before, you know, all the cities said stop doing that. Right. I was flying it in the city and I had forgotten to set the home point. And when I turned the drone on, because it wasn't connected yet, it figured, oh, I better go fly home to the last point that you had set. So it just took off and I flew into some overhead train wires and big spark show, and that was the end of it. Okay.

So that one, that one died. That one died of fiery death. Drone two. So drone two, I think, was a DJI Phantom three. That one, I can't, I was definitely crashed. I think I crashed it at, I think the wind blew that. into a tree. Maybe it's Sleepy Hollow. So number three survived.

The wind blew it into a tree. Yeah. It was trying to... Like I said, it doesn't have these safety sensors on it like you get now. I mean, these were old school drones. What are we talking like four or five years ago? Yeah, probably. 2012, 2013 in that range. Okay.

So drone three. So drone three survives and survives to this day. When I bought drone four, I gave drone three to a buddy of mine on the West Coast since he was really looking to get into it. Okay. A really good friend of mine. And he managed to not crash it somehow. So it's still out there doing work.

Drone 4. So drone 4 that I bought to replace drone 3. I think drone 4 was the one that just stopped working one day. Like it just stopped connecting to the remote, you know, no drama involved that just stopped working. And to get these things fixed is a real pain in the air. You have to send them to Japan to DJI headquarters and all that. So it's like... You're not doing that.

No, I'm not doing that. So then you just moved on, you bought drone 5. That's right. Which was? Which was the drone 5 was the last. Phantom that I bought. The, you know, the phantom's the big one with the, you know, the big white ones with the stand on the bottom.

Yep. And that one definitely crashed. So that one, it nipped the tree at Sleepy Hollow and knocked one of the propellers off, fell straight down like 50 feet, hit the ground on the soft ground on the grass, bounced back up in the air. Like, it just shot right back up in the air about another hundred feet. And I'm thinking, oh, this one might make it through this. And then it fell 100 feet right on a car path and blew it a million pieces.

So that was gone. Right of the car possessed, like when Harry Potter gets possessed. That was, that was tragic, too, because I had a couple shoots scheduled for right after that. So it was like, I just literally the thing crashed. And on the way home that day, I had to stop and buy another one, which was. So now we're on the drone six. And so that one really pissed me off. So at that point, I'm like, I'm done with the phantoms.

I'm going to go over to the Mavik, which is nice because it's way more portable. So instead of having this giant backpack that would just fit the drone, now it fits in, as you know, So you just got one. It fits in like this nice little case. And of course, you have to buy all new batteries for it because that's how they get you. But whatever. Just go into the MAVIC. So I've had the MAVIC like three weeks and I'm loving the thing.

It's great. And as you said, I'm being a little aggressive with it, flying it around. We're at Fisher's Island. And I'm shooting the par five, sixth hole from pretty far away. Like, I can't see the drone. It's around the corner. And all of a sudden, it's like, I don't know how it got there. But it's like in this copse of trees.

And like the sensors are all lighting up. no way out of it, you know, won't let me fly anywhere because the sensors won't let you fly it into a tree. So I'm driving over there trying to get there with my cart and it hits a branch and plops right down on the car path and gets dinged up. But I'm thinking like, hey, this is okay. So it works for the rest of the rounded Fisher's. That's where I got the photos from Fisher's Island with that drone. Yeah, it came out, great, survived. And it's a little dinged up. You know, there's some scuffs. A couple of plastic pieces are broken on it. Like two days later, I'm flying it at Somerset Hills and I got it way up in the air. And I'm shooting these overheads.

all of a sudden, you know, I can hear it make this awful sound. Oh, Christ. And the next thing, I can't see it, but I'm looking at my remote where you get the picture. And it's just, it's like spiraling, spiraling down. So I'm like, I look up over and there, it is just falling straight out of the sky, you know, lands on the course. Picture, of course, goes completely dark right away. And I'm like, you know, I got to at least find the drone because the thing with these drones is the pictures are stored on the drone. So if you lose the drone, you lose all the photos.

And I'm like, I want to find these photos. So I'm walking around Somerset Hills in complete darkness with my phone out, the flashlight on trying to find this dead drone laying somewhere in the weeds. And after about an hour, I found it, you know, packed it up and stopped it best by on the way home again. Bought anyone. Now we're on drone seven. Which is, to this day, you know, a month and a half into its life, flawless. No crashes, no dings.

Yeah, because I was going to ask, so all the photos come from like, there's a memory card in there. That's right. Because when Liberty National, I saw you, you were taking some screenshots from, I guess, is that just a preview on your phone? So when you're using the remote, the phone access the screen. And when you trigger the photos, it will take a photo and it'll show you on your phone that you took a photo, but it stores the full photo on the drone. Got you card.

Yeah, I think on your phone it stores like a shittier version of it. Like a thumbnail. Right, right, right. So that you can actually like see that you took a photo, but it's not the high quality. That's right. That's exactly right. So, folks, when you see those drone photos come in from links jams, you've got to know that that has been... Six drones died for that.

Six. Yes. Some of them badly. Look at that one. Are you ever scared that's going to hit somebody? I mean, that one coming out of the sky, that'll... 500 feet. So I will tell you, like, I am, even though I'm reckless with the drone itself, I am...

True. It does hate people. I am very, I'm very cautious with and respectful of, like, people on courses. So, like, if there's people out there, I won't fly my drone any. anywhere near them. I won't fly over them. I don't fly my drone over golf course property when there's people out there. We had a match out in Seattle and Riggs flew his drone right on top of my partner's head as we're chipping on the green in a tight match. As a strategic move, I think that does have merit. If you're involved in the match. I will say it's such a controversial move

that he, Devon Taze was just in here a few minutes ago and he came back in to be like, hey, how's that drone doing? Because that one you flew over my head. And I pulled up the footage and you can see the footage of like him trying to hit his second. It's right over him. It's right over. And you can kind of see you come up behind him probably saying like, hey, can he believe he's flying a drone? Well, it's the biggest trip of the entire day.

And all of a sudden, you just hear these bees flying towards you. And then it becomes like, we're under attack. You got to, sometimes you've got to make the moves, though. So that I can respect. But if I don't know the people, I try not to bother them with my drone. And to be honest with you, I think there's too much of that out there now with guys flying these drones over golf courses when, you know, people are trying to play. And, you know, it's happened to me.

and it annoys me. So the last thing I want to do is annoy anybody else. So anyway, I'm very careful with the drone when there are people anywhere in the vicinity. So when I was shooting Somerset, the course was totally empty. But it did scare me. You know, I mean, for it to plunge 500 feet out of the sky on an empty golf course, I mean, yeah, if there was anything underneath it, that could have been bad. Even worse, had that happened at Fisher's, chances are it would have plopped right into Long Island Sound, never to be seen again. And all those Fisher's photos that have been waiting years and years to get would have been,

the bottom of the sea. Tragic. Tragic. Sea turtles. Tragic. That's right. Yeah, they've been checking out. Oh, look at these links.

Yeah, around there. That's right. Some scuba diver, 200 years from now. Oh, my God. What's sick. Exactly. Photos of fishers. Exactly.

So like you said, this is not your full-time gig. Yes. Which I think probably surprised some people. You have a full-time job. This is more of a hobby. And I want to get into a little bit of, you know, there are others who do golf course photography. is their profession.

I imagine you don't want to name names. You don't want to name clubs, anything like that. But I think people would be fascinated to hear some of the little interactions or feathers that have been ruffled with lynx jims coming onto the scene in the course photog game. Sure. So let me say this. You're right.

This is not, I've tried really hard not to make this a job. I have a job. I have a job that I really like and enjoy doing. And I don't want two jobs. So I've tried very hard to keep it. as a side hobby. The other thing is, you know, and this is one of the reasons I really love what you guys do.

You know, golf by its nature and its history is really an exclusionary game, right? I mean, you think back about it and it's, you know, golf has excluded people based on race, religion, sex, age, the money in your pocket. And even now today in the U.S., there's this whole discussion about private clubs versus public courses and whether more courses in the U.S. should adopt the British model where they open their doors to the public. So a big part of what I try to do is to bring these places to people who love golf, which I think is a lot. One of the reasons why we have always gotten along so well is because that's really what you guys do. You know, you're trying to bring the game to the masses in a way that they can enjoyably consume. And I like that and I respect that.

So that's really one of my main goals in doing this. To your point, golf is so insular in this way, and everybody has their corner. And as soon as somebody comes along and tries to nudge in on somebody else's corner, people get really pissy about it. You see it in photography. You see it in the writers. You see it in these guys who, you know, a guy who wrote a book on this player or this architect. You know, God forbid somebody else might come along and have something to say about that particular person.

We can certainly attest to that. I'm sure you can. Oh, yes. Yeah, I'm sure you can. So it's like, you know, these people have these beliefs that, like, they own a spot. And I've always tried to get along with all these other photographers, and I've supported them and I throw business their way. And for the most part, once I meet them, we tend to get along pretty well.

But to your point, yeah, I mean, there has been some interesting commentary from certain professional, you know, with quotes, professional photographers of golf courses out there who really get irritated when they think that you're stealing business from them. And I don't see myself as doing that because I'm just out there doing what I want to do for, you know, my own reasons and sharing it. And I, you know, I'm not out there hocking my photos. I don't market my photos for sale. I don't, you know, the only thing I sell every year is a calendar. So I don't really see myself as their competitor as somebody who's taking business from them, as I've tried to sort of step back and see things from their point of view, I can see why they would feel less than thrilled about

what they view as the competition. But, you know, so be it as far as I'm concerned. I think that's fair. Hell yeah. You know, I mean, it's like I've always tried to put it in my own terms with my work. It's like if some guy, you know, hung a shingle next to my law office and said, I'm going to either undercut you on rates or on, you know, whatever. I would say fine. I'll compete with you on quality or on price or whatever I've got to do to compete in the market. And for some reason, it just doesn't seem like golf is geared that way. But like I said, I mean, I just, I hate to make it sound simple, but I just do what I do.

And if somebody gets pissy about it, that's really on them. You ever get in trouble with any clubs for post some pictures? No, I've been very fortunate in that way. I mean, I get permission from everywhere that I shoot before I do it. And there have been, I think, over all the hundreds of courses that I've shot, there have been maybe two times where, despite having permission from, you know, either my host or the club itself, somebody along the chain of command after the fact says, what are these photos, why are they out there?

Who are they from? They reach out to me and they say, hey, listen, you know, we're really sorry that we your permission, but our Greens chair really doesn't want any photos of the course out the way it looks right now. Or, you know, our, our superintendent or our head pro didn't realize that you were out there shooting. So can you, you know, can you take them down? And of course, I always say, sure, you know, no problem. I think that's happened twice in six years. That's not bad. No, not bad at all. Most courses are really, I mean, at this point, most courses are happy for the exposure. So you've been able to play, obviously, like you mentioned, a lot of pretty phenomenal places.

What, you know, if you could go out and shoot one course tomorrow with perfect sun, perfect weather, whatever, what's your course that I've already played? National Golf Links out on Long Island is my favorite course. I love everything about it. It's incredibly photogenic, and I will never get tired of shooting pictures there. The other one that comes to mind is Cyprus Point on the West Coast. I love the West Coast. For my money, golf doesn't get any more beautiful than Cyprus.

You know, even now, it's been almost a year to the day since I've been to Cyprus. And even now on days like this where it's crappy outside, sometimes I'll page through my photos of that golf course just to just to daydream about it. It is, it's so incredible. Hell yeah. So those two are the ones that. That's up. That's right. That's right.

It's like, oh, man, it's cloud. It's my, my human touch. I feel that rain coming. I'm going to go look at Cyprus, man. Look at that sunset. That's right. What about is, is somewhere at a place like Cyprus. I mean, is flying the drone, do you have to go through some intense steps?

Because some of these places, it's almost like sacrilegious to even have a phone out. That's right. Buzzing a drone around. Like, what is that process like? That's right. And I will tell you, like, as drones have gotten more popular and more accessible, like, you see them a lot more. And I've been sort of predicting this for a while. This is going to become a problem.

Because now every time you go out to Monterey, you see tons of people standing around trying to shoot their drone up in the air. And Pebble Beach itself doesn't allow drones. So, you know, Monterey is sort of a weird place. You have Pebble Beach and then you have the rest of the area. And what I generally do is, you know, if I have, like I said you before, there are people out there, I wouldn't fly it anyway. So, you know, and I've been, I've played Cyprus Point when there has been a drone

10 feet over my head while I'm on the 16th hole. And I wasn't thrilled about it. So, again, like I don't want to, I don't want to put anybody else in that position. So I try to avoid it. So if I don't have, like if I'm at Cyprus and I'll give you a real world example, the member who hosted me says, hey, listen, you know, I really want to hang some aerial photos of my club in my house. Can you can you take something for me? I said, sure. You know, in that kind of a situation, I just won't fly over the golf course.

You know, I'll take the photos from from good angles around the perimeter of the course so that I'm not over golf club property. which I think is a fair compromise if I'm not actually there at either the behest of or with the explicit permission of the club itself as an entity. And most of the time where possible I would rather have the permission of the club itself, but sometimes that's not always possible. So in those situations, if a member is giving me permission to shoot his course, I'll take that permission and I'll do it that way. What's the bucket list course?

What are up there? What's number one? Well, in the U.S., certainly, I mean, I've played almost everywhere I've wanted to play in the U.S. I've been lucky in that regard. But, you know, Augusta is one. I actually went there to the Masters for the first time. I've been holding out. I've been saying I don't want to play Augusta until I'm there.

As a player, don't want to go to the Masters. And finally, I needed to go because I needed photos for something. So I went down there for a practice round. I took photos. And I actually thought being there would make me want to play it less, you know, having seen it and been there, and it was the complete opposite. It was better than I ever imagined it was, and now I'm just dying to get down there in place.

So, you know, one day, fingers crossed and all that. Other than that, it's really international courses I want to focus on. I'm really dying to go to Scotland, which I might actually do in the next couple weeks if the weather permits really desperate to see the old course. Royal County Down is probably my number one worldwide bucket list course. North Barrack is another one that I'm really dying, to see the original Redan, the pit, all those cool holes.

I mean, look, the list somehow keeps growing as opposed to getting shorter. So it's, you know, it's as long today as it ever was. I will say I've noticed that too. Like now that we've been so fortunate to play so many different courses, you actually learn how many more are out there. And as you play them, it continues to grow. I think it's very surprising that you haven't, you've never been to Scotland, right? I've never been to Scotland.

It was very surprising. Actually, I went to England for the very first time this spring, and was absolutely blown away. I played the courses around London and along the southeast coast, and it was just mind-blowing for me. So now I'm just, all I want to do is go to the UK

and knock off random courses. Let's say your account gets to like 500,000 followers. This is going to be a full-time job? Like, if you just become the premier photographer of golf courses. You said he didn't want two jobs, but what if it just turns into one? Yeah, that's the thing. Do you see it evolving into one?

I try not to think about it, which I know sounds weird because I know everybody is always concerned with growing their brand and all of that. Right. But I really have tried hard not to make this work. You know, I enjoy it and I don't want to kill that by turning it into a business. Right. And look, in some respects, it has morphed into sort of something along the lines of a business just by its own momentum, really. And I can't do anything about that. But I really, it would really upset me to one day wake up and realize that like I'm going to shoot a golf course today.

And it's like, I'm dreading it because it's work. I mean, that's really the ultimate goal here is to avoid that. If I avoid that, I don't care how many followers I have. I don't care where this goes in the future. As long as I never stop enjoying it, then I will be happy. Hell of you, brother. I mean, that passion is what makes it great. So much passion.

I can feel it. That's all. It's gone and 60 seconds. That's what it is. You're right. Yeah. What's the car's name? name?

Eleanor. It's a Shelby Mustang, right? Yes. Shelby G.T. That's right. You said, like, if weather permits for Scott, how important is that to you? Because I've noticed when we book tea times even, or we plan to play on the weekend. And he's like, yeah, I'm free both Saturday and Sunday, but I'm really pushing for Sunday

because the weather looks like it's going to be a little sunnier. Like, how important is that for you to book a trip? Because a lot of people, they're like, no, no, we've had this buddy's trip or whatever booked for a year. I don't care of a dumps and it's 50 degrees the whole time. We're going and we're going to have a great time. Right. And I am the same way.

I mean, I will never cancel golf for weather. I mean, if it's raining, I don't care. And that goes for my random Saturday rounds or a trip. But certainly, if I'm hoping to also shoot photos on that trip, the weather makes an enormous difference. I don't care about cold. You know, I play into the winter when it's, you know, the high is below freezing. That doesn't bother me at all.

But when it's rainy and shitty like it is today, it's really hard to get decent golf photos. So if I'm going to a place like Scotland for the first. time, it would really be nice to be able to get some nice photos to share on the account. So would it cause me to cancel a trip if the weather was bad? No, I would still go. You know, I've been telling you, you've got to get to Cabot next year. I know. I know. I almost had it last week. I think we talked about it. I almost had it. You know, it was, I was ready to go. I was going to drag my wife up there with me. And, you know, it just, we couldn't line up the dates to make it work right. So it will be priority

number one in 2020 for sure well links jims a friend johnny you got any questions for us no listen i really i just wanted to tell you guys that i i can't tell you how much i appreciate the support that you have given me i mean from the very beginning and i said this on on frankie's birthday a while ago you know you guys have been August 13 that's right big day during his whole birthday week right that's a good photo on that day that's right that's right we got to honor the birthday Crazy. Right. Honor the week.

But in all seriousness, you guys have been super supportive of what I've been doing since the very beginning. And it's made an enormous difference, you know, getting to know you guys, getting to know what you guys do, and seeing the impact you make on golf and in the golf community has been great. And I respect it. I appreciate it. And certainly to the extent you have thrown some of that my way. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. That was very, that whole thing was worth it

just so that you would give that little monologue. Yeah, that was really nice. Trying to plug you guys. That was really nice. Go follow him, Instagram, Twitter. He is at Lynx Jim's. Great guy, loves golf,

takes the best photos, and like we always say, you come for the photos, you stay for the cards. Right. We appreciate it, Johnny. Thank you, buddy. Sure thing.

Oh, one last thing, Rigsie. Yep. Calendar launches this week. The 2019, 2020, Link's Jim's calendar. I got mine hanging above my bed from last year. That's right.

Profits to charity. You know, if you want to, if you want to buy one or 10, like some crazy people do, come on over. That's a great gift. It is such a good gift. It's holiday season, and you should buy one for yourself. Good call. Stock and stuffer.

Where do they get them? You'll post the links to your account. Yeah. When it launches, whenever this goes live, I will post the links. But my website is linksjemsgolf.com, and really all I use it for is so that people can buy the calendar. How much do you kind of like battle over the whole year of like which month should get which photo? A ridiculous amount.

An amount that like if normal people knew, they would think that I belong in an asylum. And now that it's coming down to the final, the final days of choices, it's driving to me crazy. You only get, there's only 12 options? 13 with the cover. Oh, with the cover. With the cover. He knows. That's a whole big thing too.

The cover, you know, who gets the cover. I don't know. I got a couple lines. up I think it'll be nice, but picking the final, the final 13 is harder than it should be. What do you narrow down to like, you start, you narrow down like 100 and then like 50 years? Yes. That is exactly. As I go through the year, I have a folder on this pad where it's like calendar photos.

And if one is really good, I throw it in the folder. By the end of the year, I'm hoping to have like 20, 25 great ones. And inevitably, I get there and it's 200 photos that I got to go through. And it's giant pain in the ass. But generally speaking, the calendar comes out nice. People tend to like it, which is really cool. I mean, I never really expected to do it. anything with it, but people have responded to it in a way that, you know, I get messages all the time

this time of year, like, when's the calendar coming out? It's really nice to hear, so. And anybody who's bought a calendar, I appreciate it. And yeah, profits to, uh, to animal charities. Anybody who follows me knows that I, uh, I love animals. So, uh, Gracie is that, uh, Gracie's the dog. She's my rescue pup. Yeah. Comes with me to play, you know, she's a, uh, she's a sweetie. She's seen you get a whole in one, right? She has. She was the only witness? Only witness. Only witness. Luckily, luckily, it wasn't my first. Yeah, okay. So that would have been having a dog have to attest the card would have been a problem. Look her in the eyes and be like, that's my challenge, what are you doing?

That's right. Kind of look you giving her. That's right. So check them out at Link's Gems. Next couple weeks, I'll have the calendar link, buy some calendars, profits, go to charity. Johnny, we appreciate it. Guys, thank you so much. Thank you.

Thanks for coming in. Thank you.