Fore Play - Live From Big Cedar, Featuring Alfonso Ribeiro

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

The crew is live from Big Cedar Lodge, the site of the next Travel Series. We discuss fireworks, The ‘Roman Empire,’ Riggs’ match with Max Homa, and more. Then Frankie and Trent interview Alfonso Ribeiro live in studio (47:08), where they break down the mental side of golf, Frankie’s improving game, Trent’s new swing and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. How do you feel about my boy going to a 10-finger grip on the tea? Oh, you got physically sick at the alpha. He's taking a sip of water. Foreplay, brought to you by Barstall Sports, presented by Chevy. Our very good friends, it's Chevy, Chevrolet, which we're going to get to. We're live in Missouri, Southern Missouri, Branson area, just outside of Branson, I guess.

at Big Cedar Lodge. We got a bunch of videos we're filming. We're probably going to put out five, six videos from this whole thing. We just got here, so it's still pretty fresh. We played Top of the Rock this morning. We got Paines Valley, which is behind us in the view from these lovely cameras. If you're watching on YouTube, we're viewing a clip on social media. Paines Valley, Tiger Woods, course, behind us.

We're getting ready to play. And then we're playing Ozarks National, which is Cork Crenshaw tomorrow. We got Mountain Top, which is a carry player, part three track. And then we've got Buffalo Ridge, which is the Faz. Fosio. Tom Fasio. So we got a lot of golf coming up. But anyways, gentlemen, how are you?

How's everybody feeling? Very good, very good. I was going to say first time in Missouri, but that's just a lie. I've been to St. Louis. This is my first time in Missouri. But definitely the first time. You were there for Blues Bruins for the radio shows? Yep.

Yeah. First time I'm seeing the landscape, seeing, you know, the Ozarks, for sure, looking for Marty and Wendy Birds. The second time I said that. But yeah, no, it's just a really, really nice place. Missouri's in, obviously my home state. I lived here for the first 15 years. my life or so and then I come back here all the time. It's my home state. But Missouri is a little

interesting in that sort of the top third of it or so, I guess, is pretty flat. Like you would guess, like Cornfields, Iowa, that kind of terrain. And then when you get a little bit into the middle, middle, southern part of the state, it's very kind of like, I want to call it mountainous, but it's hilly. Definitely hilly. It's the Ozark Mountains, they call it. They're not mountains like the Rocky mountains, but it's very hilly. And you got all kinds of bluffs and peaks. And, a lot of wildlife and hunting and fishing and there's like black bears that kind of have seeped their way up even into like southern Missouri, Arkansas area. So it's a lot different than you might guess when you just think. Yeah, I was telling you guys that the most experience I've had in Missouri is we used to drive right across the border and buy fireworks here. Yep.

Because it was a three hour drive from Cedar Rapids to the Missouri, Iowa border. And Iowa at the time, fireworks were illegal, which I think they've legalized them since then. But they were illegal when I was a kid and me and my buddies, we would just drive right across. And they would have warehouse. just right over the border and you could just buy. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. And it's smart and we would buy our years worth of fireworks and we'd cross right over. Sometimes there were cops sitting on the border, but I think they were just trying to scare that. I was not illegal, right?

You know, you can transfer them across state lines. That's not illegal, is it? I don't know. It feels illegal, you think? It might be. Almost so illegal. Well, if there were cops there was something they were looking out for. This is my first time in Missouri and I'm blown away.

Can you get arrested in retrospect of like, like they can be like, oh, you just admitted to doing that? So they're going to come get you out of that? Listen, if they want to come track me down because me and my buddies bought firecrackers 15 years ago. You know, say 2011. They got bigger than firecrackers. You bought the good stuff. Yeah, we bought Roman candles. We bought bottle rockets.

We bought firecrackers. We bought. Roman candles the big one that shoots them off. Yeah. You can hold. Oh, those are just. We would hold. You could have Roman candle wars where you'd stand on different sides and shoot them at each other.

Fireworks huge for us. I got a crazy fireworks story. I got to talk about Chevy first. We love Chevy. Chevy EVs. I've been noticing a lot of Chevvys. You got a Chevy Malibou. I had a chance to rent another car that was technically, it might have been like a higher classification,

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Chevy's just the best. It's the absolute best. You see the logo. You know it's American. You know that it's just, it's... We've been singing that all morning. There's a lot of rocks around here, so we've been saying... Strong as that could be.

Lagoa. Yeah, that's Chevy commercial. Wow. You just got that? Well, we were singing it, and I thought it was another brand. I was thinking, like, we shouldn't really be singing that because we're Chevy guys now. I didn't know that was a Chevy. That is a Chevy.

It comes over the mountain. It's like the silver ice. Oh, like a rock. Bumping around. I would have joined you guys. You can join in now. Go forward. There it is.

No, Chevy's the best, man. Bob's, I was eager. Yeah, that's right. Like a... I actually didn't realize that was... Dude, it's an album. Really?

Yeah, because I was looking it up on Spotify. I got the itch when we started singing. I was like, I got to listen to that song. It's so good. And I clicked on Lager Rock, expecting it to just play. And it wouldn't play. And I was like, what's going on? I looked down and you have to actually pick Liga Rock from the Lago Rock album, I think.

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Thank you, Chevy. We're also on a patio just in the middle of a restaurant. So if you hear... Everyone in a restaurant. No, you can't hear anything. They can't hear anything. They can't hear shit out. That's boy, Alex Bush. You know what?

You want to know something though? They can hear us. I think so? That's something that's happening for sure. Yeah, but we... It's like we're just having a regular lunch conversation. I was going to tell you guys how I'm constipated. Just talk at this volume.

I think we're good. I've been having trouble pooping. It's first time probably in my adult life. Remind me to come back to my fireworks. No, I haven't. I would actually like to hear that. Oh, yeah, no, go ahead. Frankie can't get anything.

I've got no fireworks. I pay for fireworks right now. Prang would stick a fire crack up that thing. So to put a bow on the fireworks discussion, we're huge fireworks people in Missouri. Yep. Which is obviously why my dad loved buying fireworks. That'd be as big time to shine once a year,

which is very out of character for my dad. Not a flashy guy. No. Drives pickup trucks, likes his farm, likes to hunt and fish, the whole thing, fix his teeth. fireworks for whatever reason he fucking loves fireworks. I get it. Every year, we would usually go down actually to Table Rock Lake, which is this lake that we're on here.

We would go to kind of the southern, actually, the Arkansas side of it, to Holiday Island. They had a nice beach where we'd shoot off fireworks. One year, we just did it. We lived in a cul-de-sac, you know, four or five homes in the circle. And we would go out with the neighbors. There were a couple neighbors that were still in town in the middle of the cul-de-sac and fire off the fireworks. Yeah. And it was awesome.

We started to build a little bit of a crowd. People see this is going on. Again, my dad gets enough fireworks that it was a seat. And my brother, who was in like probably college maybe at the time, his buddies kind of a couple of his buddies were over. Anyways, we get to the finale. And the finale is like a 30 firework deal that you light the candle. And then it, boom, boom, everybody goes crazy. It's really fun.

Well, I think, I want to believe we were shooting them off a bucket. Okay. And you do it for the bucket. Like a flipped over bucket? Yep. Okay. And you do it for the bucket for. you know, so you don't put all kinds of issues

and whatever on the actual street forever. They don't burn the ground. In the middle of the street and all that. So you don't have a bucket. Well, the thing malfunctions and falls off the bucket. And now it's shooting missiles sideways. Chaos. Into homes.

Oh, my God. On the cul-de-sack? Yeah. I'm telling you. People start like, like screaming. That's a war zone. That's legitimately.

That is a war zone. The thing is shooting fireworks at home. It's like a Tusha rocket. So my, you know, my dad. like sprints into the garage and fires up the hose. Okay. Because this thing's still shooting. People are ducking for cover,

diving behind bushes. Shoots one into the bushes in front of my home that are super. I mean, it's fucking July and Missouri. Right. Super burned out bushes. So now we've got flames, two story home.

Oh my God. Not to brag. And the flames are flying over the house. They're so high. What? To the point where one of my dad, one of my brothers, buddies had actually heroically come down like the hill behind.

And I think he actually. got to the hose first. And so we got a couple people with hoses trying to put this out. It like burnt and like syringed the, um, the, what are netting? Windows called. Oh. Screened in. Screening in the screen on the windows. Yeah. On the second floor and first floor, it like burned those. That's how close our home was to burn. Was it like a special occasion or just like a Saturday. Fourth of July, baby. Oh, fourth of July. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Fourth of July. Okay. Yeah. That was a big time. It was a fucking show. And the show took a turn into a horror story. I mean, firing me.

missiles at homes in the coldest that's a disaster and just one another you know one after the other just into the you know bligginsworth house into the Johnson's boom everyone's like oh this is amazing it's almost like you couldn't tell them as part of the show at first this seems like a problem it was

the neighbors have a much different telling of this story yeah it's a horror it's a horror show it's at the other side of it fireworks are fun man and we were kidding you know we're hiding behind the pole being like this is great too many negative stories about fireworks well i feel like jason pierre paul did he scared the shit out of the country

for the firework industry who was it Columbus Blue Jagg it's goalie St. Bash year died died died oh I don't remember 22 years old got hit right in the chest so he was sitting in the hot tub I'm with you I'm not I don't share

my father's starting goal I feel bad now the starting goalie was with him in the hot tub and he like got out of the way he was the backup yeah young rookie hit him like right in the heart right

right the chest just killed them Fireworks are scary I mean you're really shooting all that happened was like It was Fourth of July. I'm not a big fireworks guy. Turned over and just shot right at him.

That's obviously. He died on the Fourth of July. Incredibly unfortunate. No, it's horrible. But it's the point being that like, obviously you're, you're right that it was a horror show. It's scary. It's very, very scary when it comes to fireworks. It's part of it, though, isn't it?

So the fact that it is illegal makes sense. I mean, you're just, you're allowing average citizens that are probably having some drinks. For sure. Just to just shoot off explosives. Yeah. That's, I mean. Yeah, we used to do it. It seems like an open and closed case illegal.

We used to do it until the cops would show up. We would like, it'd be fun to do a bunch of them and be like, cops will be here in like 10 minutes and we would just watch them go by. I get super scared still when we fire up when we shoot. I don't go anywhere near. No, I don't go anywhere. The problem is you don't have to be near them and they're still dangerous. I'm not a big fireworks guy.

I like to see professional fireworks. That's what I'm saying. I'm good for like the show, you know. Oh yeah. Nothing better. Go to Borrellys, you go on the roof. You watch them at Eisenhower Park and then you go back down and you have your drinks. I don't need to be set that off.

You ever seen some of the videos when those massive fireworks show go wrong. No. Yeah. Oh my gosh. On the fire and stuff. They usually got like a barge full of them. And something goes wrong out there. People are diving off.

They're explosive. Giant. They're explosives. They're a barge full of explosives. They're purposely exploded. Yeah. It's crazy. I'd light a firework right now.

I like fireworks, but I just get too scared of them. They're fun. I'm not saying that like I'm a tough guy. I just think they're fun. Well, the danger is definitely part of it. Of course. You know what I mean?

That's part of the rush is the adrenaline of like this could go horribly wrong. Plus, I'm just a pretty clumsy person in general. Yeah. It's not you're clumsy with something. I'm clumsy with a golf club or something and I hit myself in the shin. It's like, oh, I hurt, whatever. I'm talking about explosives, man. It's crazy. We said that we have Alfonso-Rabre on the show today.

We said that? No, we're about to say it. Just now. Happened just now. I wasn't there for it. Was he amazing? He's amazing. Honestly, like, at one point I say, does anyone understand the comedy and the fact that Alfonza Ribeiro, Carlton from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air is like the greatest swing coach on the planet?

I don't understand why we just act like that's a normal thing. Like, we listen to him. He gives breakdowns on the, take back, the follow through, where your hip should be at impact, where your head should be, the angle. He's giving us tips on, like, what drills to be practicing. This is Alfonso Ribeiro. He's great.

You know what I mean? He's the fucking host of America's funniest videos. Super analytical man. Dancing with the stars. And then we're just listening to, he's an amazing golf mind. One of the best in the country. I think he plays golf, sorry, I think he plays golf at Lakeside in L.A., which is like the coolest place in the world.

It's like where all the celebrities hang out. talking about Lakeside. It's like I've played at Lakeside a few times and it's on Friday afternoons they'll play in, you know, six sums and and everyone just out there drinking and booze. So in this podcast, he actually says that when he's playing a place like Tahoe and he's like kind of nervous, he thinks about being on like the sixth hole at Lakeside. He kept saying like the six whole lake side. Is that right? Easy seven. Six or seven. He could, he kept like going back on before. Yeah. Yeah, he did say whatever. Yeah. He was basically saying like that's just my comfort spot. I can just envision it. And then when he said, you were doing today. That's what I was doing.

You're on the range. About to have a good day with the boys. We're on like the eighth hole. I just can't hit the ball. I can't hit the ball and I don't go to the range. I don't know how you guys do it. I don't know how anyone listening to this can just step up and just plague off without warming up. We didn't get to hit balls before.

And Frankie's on like the eighth hole. And he's like, you're having a really solid range session. The range session's going really well. Part three course. We're here at the top of the rock. And like by the eighth hole, I don't be hit.

By the eighth hole, I'd only hit like seven irons. And like half of them are different clubs. So it's like each club I hit once. I'm just not warmed up. It's a very hard thing to do to just go out there and just perform. I mean, Riggs played phenomenal. It was impressive.

You played well today. I think a couple under the last few holes. It was good. Yeah, I had a good run. Great save on nine. Look, I'm coming off a bad performance at Myrtle Beach.

Not going to give anything away. It's not out yet, but I was embarrassed. You know, when you're on camera and you can't find it. It stinks. Yeah, so I needed to have a good performance.

We're only one round in. Nine holes, really. Part three. So still a lot of golf to be played, but I'm feeling good. Got some mojo. I feel like this is a good track for you to get the driver straightened out to because you said is wide as hell.

Big time. You can hit it anywhere. So we're playing Paines Valley today. Yep. Tiger Woods. You can see this green behind you back here? Can you see that, Brick? That one with the, that one's really cool.

That one is really cool. But most of them are not like that. That one has a lot of water. That's incredible. Is that a par four? So short par three. And mid range, like 150, 160. That's an incredible hole.

Really, really good hole. I'm excited. We watched this hole on the match a couple years ago with JT and Tiger and Justin. I think Rory was there as well. In Rores. That was when Rory and JT had the Domino's conversation. Oh, right. Yeah.

Where Rory was hyping up Dominoes. Yeah, I mean, anytime Tiger Woods' name is on something, I think it's pretty significant. And to plug my old employer, Golf Digest, I believe this won the Golf Digest best new public course last year.

It deserves it. I think they spent like $10 billion. I think that's what I'm saying. I think it was $10 billion. Is that actually true? It's got to be up there, though. Bro, I ask someone that work here,

I said, how much did it cost to build this? And the guy said billions. With an ass. With an ass. because I mean the money is endless when you think about it these rocks these boulders like they're just bringing stuff in the grass is immaculate the landscape I mean the amount of land that they own out here is just forever it's forever and I mean all the amenities are insane Mr. Morris are ridiculous the restaurants are insane you guys are I'm glad you guys are enjoying it we're just getting a taste we haven't even really seen it you're kind of just looking around but it's it's big Cedar Lodge so I used to vacation here when we were younger we came to Big Cedar Lodge a couple times but it was known as like this.

It was like above us. Really? The Cedar Lodge is like. We can't. Cream of the crop. We would maybe like once every five years and we did our trip to the southern part. We would like swing by here, maybe on the way home or something. And we would maybe do dinner.

But we couldn't like stay at the lodge. I mean, I think like one time we got to stay at the lodge or we were like, ooh, and you know, it's almost like Jurassic Park. It was like you would drive through. They have like, I think we'll see it if we go to the main lodge. I think they still have it. But you literally, even as a normal civilian. car you would drive through a stream

a stream oh wow would go across the road but it was like very very shallow it was so shallow but it was a real stream there'd be like a little tiny um kind of you know waterfally like spring to your right and then it would dribble across the road and you would

have to slow down and drive across and we'd be like ooh-hoo and they had the real cool mini golf course it was unbelievable so we would vacation here a lot in the last you know eight 10 years even less really they've put a bunch effort into expanding this as kind of a golf destination. And I think bringing Tiger Woods isn't is clearly a big part of that. It's phenomenal.

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I don't have that anymore. although I did I we got back from some trip recently and I realized that I'd kept the key cards in there for a couple days I'll tell but I threw them out good I threw them out I'm guessing I had to be hard back in the day that was like a crazy not back in the day is is about a month ago and I would keep not like well I would keep all the hotel key cards in my wallet because at a certain point because at a certain point it gets stretched out and you have to have cards right otherwise it's too loose because if I took out all the hotel cards at a certain point of a wizard it's just a sleeve of a lizard of a sleeve of a wizard really fucked up your wallet. I know, but now I've got a better one and curve is perfect for it. So was this a drawn out dramatic moment, like in some movies when the alcoholic is standing there with like the beers over the sink and you can't quite pour it out that eventually does? It's just my wallet just broke. Yeah, well, you threw the key cards away.

Oh, this last time. I felt good about it. I felt like I was making progress. You'd be like Johnny Cash and what's her name, June, where she's like dumping all those pills in the in the toilet. And he's like, where are my pills, June? Where are my key cards, June? Where are those key cards at? My wallet needs it.

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If I have to recommend one piece of entertainment for you to go home and watch, it's going to be a little boring in the beginning. And then you're going to get to this, it's called A Trip to Infinity. It's on Netflix. It's going to be a little bit boring in the beginning. You're going to be like, who are these nerds talking about the number infinity and what the concept of infinity is? It kind of catches your attention.

you're like, I stopped on it briefly when I was scrolling. Infinity is a very unique and interesting thing to think about. Hard to wrap your head around. Because like mathematicians can't actually prove that infinity is what it is. They don't understand. You can't mathematically say it can't infinity is this because they actually show like if you have like infinity

plus one should equal infinity but if you take away the infinity and then the equals like one equals zero. So they're saying it's impossible. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? If you do a math equation and logically it's very hard to prove. Logically it makes no sense. Yeah. So.

As you're watching this documentary, you're like, all right, infinity, infinity, infinity. They give you this really cool model on the infinity hotel. This guy describes the infinity hotel basically being like, if there's a hotel called the infinity hotel and it goes on forever and someone wants to check into it, what happens? You can't go to the top. So basically they have to have every person in the room go from one to two, two, two to three, three to four and then someone comes in. That's how they basically gauge what infinity is.

You go from the beginning to the end. I feel like it doesn't really bring us any closer to it. It doesn't bring you any closer. You don't know where it ends because it doesn't end. But does it end? So the whole question of this documentary is, Does the universe go on forever? Everyone keeps saying it's infinite, but does it?

So there's this one part. And I'm probably, you have to watch this because this is fucking Frankie Brelly talking about. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm just a viewer that watch it once. Half the show is Frankie Brewerly reviews on things and recats. And we have no idea what the fuck we're talking about. And it's not going to ruin it because it's not really getting the point. That's exactly my point.

That's exactly my point. Couldn't ruin it if you tried. It's not a spoiler because you're just going to fucking watch it. It's going to be different. But basically, you're going to get to this part where they talk about it. Guys watch it. He can say anything about it. Not what he talked about.

They talk about a box. And he goes, think about a box. And this is where my life changed. My life changed you the night. I'll never think the same. I'll never think the same after this. We've done a lot of talking about like simulation theory and all this shit. Essentially he was saying like if you put an apple in a, in a perfect box, it's got no openings in it.

It's just a box that's going to stay there forever. And you put an apple inside. They basically show the simulation of what would happen to the apple over a year, over two years, over 10 years, over 100,000. over 100,000 years, over a billion years. The apple decays, it turns into nothing, but then there's all these protons and neutrons. And after billions of years, it's experienced every life form of itself.

Like all of these neutrons and electrons and protons are like firing. It essentially looks like a solar system in there. You know what I'm saying? Like this piece of life form has now expanded into all these different things. And their argument is essentially like if that is what's happening in that box, it's like experiencing all these different things. It's changing constantly. but it's still the apple.

They're basically saying that like, we could be in that box. And there could be other versions of boxes where we're just changing, even though it's the same Adam. You know what I'm saying? There could be apples in a million different boxes, infinite apples and infinite boxes. And they're all changing,

but they're all the same. I would say they're most likely are. So I could be, there could be legitimately a Frankie Burelli at Big Cedar wearing a blue shirt. And there could be a Frankie Borelli at Big Cedar wearing a yellow shirt that has like a frog for hands. And you're standing on your head. And you're standing on your head. You understand?

Because, like, this Apple went through all these transformations. You have to mansplain to me. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. This Apple would do all these. Oh, because of Liz Gonzalez. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't understand.

Which is funny. Yeah. But see, that's my argument with Liz Gonzalez. That's how I talk. I wasn't actually. I agree. I had not to do it. It was like, you know, for mansplaining something?

It was the Yankees, Red Sox. The Yankees lost. Dave didn't do any favors either. Dave goes. No, the Yankees lost in the, it was the ALCS. The LDS. I don't remember. I think it was a,

ALDS. It was the first round and the Yankees lost of the Red Sox and then she did this viral video of her saying, I'm going to go to sleep with my 27 rings that that's okay, something like that. And it went viral. And at the time in the old office, it was just like every, every group had to like survive on its own. Because you're banning together as Yankee fans against an office of maybe 25 people. That's all that was in there. And they're all Red Sox fans. Every single one of them are like these asshole diehard red Sox fans. So it's like we have this Yankee fan that just went viral for the worst take of all time. It was gas, Potterberg, Dave, fucking everybody. We don't say 27 rings.

That's legitimately like, that's like what you don't say. That's what everyone. A parody of Yankee fans. So then we're arguing on the rundown and I'm like, I finally said at one point, I'm like, you, I was like, the red socks are in a better place than the Yankees today. You get that. Oh, God. And she goes, oh, do I get that? And the whole place went, oh.

You can. No. And I screamed. I remember being on my laptop being like, oh. I tried to take it back. Did she say. mansplained? Oh, yeah.

If you watch the clip, and I don't know if we can find it, if you can put the audio in, but visually watching it as the best because former employee Jared Karabas, just books. He just gets off screen as fast as he came. And I apologize to Liz. I just didn't mean to say it. I mean, like, when your team loses, you don't be like, I want to become a red sock man. We're just saying, like, they're in a better spot than us. Do you get that?

Oh, do I get that? Like, are you mansplaining? Are you mansplaining? That we just, just, just, just, just, yeah. You mean there's not another game breaking? No, that's not a man. You mean there's not another game? The season's over?

No, I mean, like, tell me. What's next? Great part two is Dave's facial expression goes perfectly in timing with everything else. So like the minute that you say it, he starts to go like, oh, no face. And then as soon as Liz goes, did you just, so Dave starts to go, yep. He could sense it coming. He wanted it. So, like, for me, that's the first time I was in real controversy.

and like a bar stool store and Dave loved it because he's like, oh my God, my guy's getting into something now. So yeah, but moral of the story is and I probably butchered like the whole apple and like why there's multiple boxes. There's a reason why there's multiple boxes. I can't remember that. You know what I mean?

I got to be honest. I don't think I don't quite understand. It's okay. I'm going to watch it tonight. You're going to watch it. You have to watch it and see what you say. Like an hour and a half? Yeah, I just get to the box part.

Everything else is the box part. What's in the box? That's what she said. Yeah. I've been, uh, I want to throw in a quick referral that you get. To me, Riggs. Get to the box. Get to the box.

So, so good, right? It's so good. So you and I, there's tities in that. Oh yeah. Yep. Which is stunning.

Cometists likes tities. Like they can't show that. I was like, oh, this is Caligula. When I first, I watched one, two episodes.

It's really good. Yeah. Marks O'Raleas. Yeah. I mean, like now I'm starting to know names of history, like Marcus Aurelius is his name.

Yeah, that's, Comedus's father. And he was like a fucking war guy. Meditation. and he was like a fucking war guy and he wants a comedist to like come in and become like a warrior and he was a little bitch boy

fucking all his tities and shit. So essentially what I first thought was wow this would be an amazing thing for a social studies teacher to show in school right? Like what an amazing form of great job. Yeah it's amazing because you're learning everything and it's really

visually cool. It's like Game of Thrones. I mean there's drone shots there's animations and then all a sudden there's like titty fucking in it so I was just like. I don't know if there was actual No, there wasn't titty fuck. There was titty and fucking. I feel like if you're a social studies teacher, it makes you a bit redundant, though. I don't think I would show that because that's the stuff that you want to tell your kids.

Yeah, but you're just, you know, you're not good at it, you know, or you just don't want to be that bad. It is really good. My point is they can't show it in school, which is just a bummer because it's really good. So Trent came up to me a couple weeks ago and we were somewhere. I can't remember. We were all over the fucking place. And you were like, I started Roman Empire. It's really good.

And one of the keys that you said at the time, which I think is a really crucial point, is that they do film it. in such a unique way, or they produce it, I guess, which is a, it's a, it's a, it's a show. Like it's a, right. It's an fiction, but based fully on nonfiction with nonfiction interviews. Yeah. They're like real nonfiction. It's like reenactments.

Experts, it is. It is right. But the reenactment is good. Yeah. And it's good. The acting is better than you expect. Right. Yeah.

Which is what I said to Riggs where you'll see people try to do this with a different type of show. And the acting is horrific. Yeah. It's like a little, it takes the, it's like the, it's like the drama. It's like the drama of the porn scenes. You're like, like, just get it over with. Right. And what I really like about them plugging in the...

I like the drama in the porn scenes, actually. Yeah, me too. What I do like... I'm a big plot guy. But you always fast forward through it a little bit. Uh-uh. You always fast forward to like two... I watch the...

I want to know context. I want to know where they just come from. Okay. Or if the guy comes in with a pizza, you really don't know the fucking... I want to know how long to make that pizza. What kind of pizza is it? What kind of pizza is is he arguing with someone? Like, who does he have at home and the whole thing?

She, like, mad at her boyfriend? Exactly. I want to know it all. Huge context, if I don't see context, I'm out. Never saying porn again on this podcast.

I'm out. We are in the middle of the restaurant, by the way, and we're like, oh yeah, the people have eaten. So I've watched all of commonists and I've watched

fucking loud before. Like, I've watched like five episodes. I said titty fucking really loud about three times. Did it, did we get eyeballs? Alex had to turn the decibels down here. He screamed.

John Kelly said yes, we got eyeballs. Fuck. Oh, I completely forgot. That's all right. I just forgot. I just forgot.

We're young. We're like the young. is we're doing this. We're doing the show. The show's more important these people's fucking lunch. It's fine. They eat lunch every day.

I can't be saying. Literally every day they eat lunch. We only do this twice a week. What were we talking about? Roman Empire. What I love about them mixing in the interviews that sometimes when they do the reenactments like that, you get lost in believing that it's really that real.

You think like, oh, they're starting to veer a little bit. And those fucking interviews bring you right back to like, they tell you how it is. And you're like, this is real. I'm watching real stuff. Those stories in that show get off to Roman history. Think about how specific their studies. That's what they've been doing their whole lives.

And in the trip to infinity, waiting to see these mathematicians talk about the concept of infinity. They chuckle as they talk about it. Now they're on Netflix. Let me tell you about the Infinity Hotel. I've been thinking about this for years. It's like, holy shit. I also love in the show how the Roman experts are not afraid to say that they don't know,

which I think is nice. Yeah, true. They were talking about, you know, why did Marcus Aurelius, pick comitist. Why is this guy who had such incredible judgment? Why do he believe that his screw up son was going to be a good emperor and all the experts

are like, I don't know. We don't know. So he was the first one to say like it's just going to be my son my son. My son. Just one in a while. I think the first one in a long time maybe ever. Because like they would adopt they would adopt people that they thought were going to be good emperors. And so technically be their son but it wasn't their born son. Yeah.

They would basically do it more on merit. Yeah. Which is actually interesting something that made the Mongol Empire like 1200 years later so unbelievably powerful was that they would actually when they took over other armies they would keep a lot of their generals that they actually captured that they had respect for that fought till the death they would keep them alive and then basically nurture them and mold them into their own army right did you listen to that podcast uh hardcore history dan carlin yeah phenomenal but anyways that was like the first i think they went through the way i understand it i don't know i've read i've watched a lot of

the same show you guys watched at this point the way i understand it the empire went through different kind of like phases and the phase leading up to Marcus Aurelius, Marcus Rillius, considered one of the better emperors of all time, was that it was merit base and they would adopt people based on who was good, all that. And then he for whatever reason was obsessed with like, no, my son, Comatus is going to be the guy. Yeah. And then when he died and Combinus took over, there's no way no. It was a shit show. The guy sucked. And then the Colligula one, have you watched that one yet? No, I'm like 80% through Caesar. I will say the Caligula one, and we all have our Caliglia as like a pretty off reference,

just like kind of like disgusting, like degenerate, you know, bad guy. Yep. They do, you can tell now that we're in a little bit of a new era in the last five, 10 years because they now paint the full picture of like his childhood traumas that happened to him as a child. Not just shitting on him. Right. And how that like led to almost like, of course he was going to be a messed up person. That's what I liked about comitist because when you think about commonus before watching that,

you think about gladi. of the movie. You know, like, this guy is just pure evil. Yeah. Piece of shit. And then you find out like,

comitist, like there were moments throughout his reign where he tried to figure it out. And it just didn't work out. The Senate was fucking with him. And he just, at a certain point,

it's like, I'm, I give up. So the, totally. And it's, and it's, you're right,

because you just, we live in such a headline culture that you just kind of get a headline about a person, even though they lived 2,000 years ago. You're like, that person sucked. Whereas the colligula one, he did suck.

But they talk a lot about, like his dad was the most cherished general and basically considered who was going to be most likely the successor to the throne. And then like was just killed out of the clouds. And his dad was basically rooming him. No, like very, he was basically murdered. They think he was probably poisoned or whatever. And he then, Caligula was like separated from his sisters and his mother. And his mother ended up having to go into exile because she was super powerful.

And whoever killed his father, who was most likely the emperor at the time, whoever killed his father was. was very paranoid that the mother was going to become super powerful. So she was put in exile and then killed. And so he literally was like raised with this horrific trauma. And then he had to spend six years on this fucking island with the shitty, shitty emperor at the time who basically had him on house arrest and was showing him all these horrific things. And then he takes over.

And his first like six or seven months, he actually was like phenomenal, like doing really well. And then he goes through, they think he has like a stroke or a brain fog. or something. And then when he comes back from that, he's like the worst person ever.

He literally would invite senators over to dinner parties and stuff and then like steal their wives and go bang their wives and stuff like to improve his power like he was a psychopath. Yeah, that's, um, I don't like thinking about that. You start to realize like, there's always more to the story. It's never just like,

this person's pure evil. They've always been that way. You can tell they, they've clearly implemented a lot more into understanding like psychology. Yeah. And more sympathizing the brain and things like that. And what happens to the brain over, you know, traumatic experiences and they apply that more to the Caligula one and to the

commonest one which paints a lot better picture I feel like of their I agree it's great it's just literally called Roman Empire I'm laughing so hard while you guys are talking about this are you talking about something right now I'm gonna talk about Tommy John okay talking about Tommy John right now so am I he's keeping everything nice and tight while I'm dealing with this bum issue that I got going on speaking of that here's how Tommy John starts fall is chaos in your pants that's right yeah that's true a lot of wings a lot of beer you're overheating one side second, freezing the next. Are you a, um, like a maple syrup and then, um, uh, cinnamon around the

rim, pumpkin beer guy? Yep. Yeah. Big time. Yeah. Because I'm the same way with my margaritas, too. That's right. Um, but that just reminds me of fall, but it also just creates chaos in your pants. Like you're just drinking these really, really just heavy pumpkin fall beers. You've got all this syrup and sugar. And then you sit down after like, like, you drink in six of those watching football Sunday and you're like, br- What kind of a, really? What kind of a, really? What's that special kind of salt they put on spicy margs around the rim? Tajine. That might be it.

That's right. It's phenomenal. Tajine is great. Messing your pants. Thank God for Tommy John. We got to get you some Tommy John's, Dan. They're on the way. I just haven't been home.

I'm like, really? Yeah. A lot of things in my apartment that I just don't have because we've been traveling like crazy. But October 7th, we're back. Yeah. We're giving people now 20% off.

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Yep. Same. Every single pair. Every single pair. All right. What were you going to say? Well, so we're talking about Frank the Tank. We were just having lunch,

and Frank the Tank has just been going on an absolute rampage today. It's like, it's as if he's taking a victory lap because his team failed to win the division, which is very, very funny. But Tommy Smokes, our dear friend Tommy Smokes tweeted this out that, and I have to read this little passage from Frank the Tank's blogging today because it's just making me laugh so hard.

And if you're not a baseball fan, obviously the Mets had like a, a, what was it, a 10. a half game lead in division. It was like a month or two ago. In August or July. Braves caught them. And the Braves caught them. They had a do-or-die series to win the division this week against the Braves. And they got swept.

Yikes. So Frank the Tank, obviously, a cartoon character at the office who's like the best at stirring the pot with the Mets wrote this blog and Tommy writes, The Matter of Fact tone in which this is written as if it's simple reporting of facts is amazing. So listen to what Frank grew up. The Mets did not get any clutch hitting, and their pitching failed, as Jacob de Grom, likely making his final start with the Mets, struggled on Friday, while Max Scherer failed on Saturday. Chris Bassett got the start on Sunday and did not do better, as the Braves dominated the series setting the Mets franchise back to mediocrity, as they will be swept by the Padres in the wild card and will not make the playoffs again for several years. With every major free agent, including DeGrom, Bassett, and Edwin Diaz leaving for better teams and better chances to win, as the Mets will be able to win,

never compete for a world series ever again after this disaster in Atlanta. He's painting as this is his masterpiece. He went full Big J for the first like two paragraphs and then he, uh, someone said to imagine a local news anchor reading this in a monotone matter of fact way. I mean, he's talking about just absolute disaster for the three agents will leave and it'll be a disaster. Speaking of like Dan Carlin hardcore history, there's like a certain Greek, um, it's like the Lacedonians or something like that that are known for this type of right.

Whereas like when you look at the Athenians or, you know, the Spartans in a certain way, like they would write with color and their philosophers. And it's, I think it's the Lacedonians who literally would write like the army was eviscerating. Army was big. Defeated other armies. Get on with it. Just get on with it. Yeah. I like that.

It's so good. It's next level comedy writing. It is. It's like so good comedy. So I played in a big golf match on Friday. Yeah. Oh, yeah. In Scotts to Arizona.

Oh, yeah. My partner was Max Homa. He was maybe the hottest golfer in the world right now. Really good. Or at least up there. He's won five times in the last couple of years. Four and O at the President's Cup. He won the week before the whole shebang.

We played against Cold Nose. And then Joe Griner, who's Max's caddy. Joe Griner's a really good player. He's probably a plus three, I think he is. He's lost in the semifinals at the USGA four ball at Chambers Bay, which was last year. Oh, I remember that. Yeah, and that was when Bones caddy for Max during the PGA championship because Joe had made a deal with Max. That's right.

That's right. you know, midam or the four ball. Four ball finals he could play. So he's a really good player. Cole knows who I spend a lot of time out on Scottsdale and he's a chatter,

a chirp box. That's all he does is chirp. We love him when he see him. Subpar, go check those guys out if you haven't. Him and Slees do a great job. But Cole, you know, he's as chirpies as it gets.

The first time we ever had him on the show was when he had been chirping about like lurch with the whole Bud Cully thing and then Frankie. And he just loves to Sure. I have to say, Colt won the U.S. Amateur in like 2007 or whatever that was. Cole's game is so good, but he's also so, he's the only really, really, really good player I've ever played with that he almost inspires you because if he can do this, I can do this. Right. Makes it look easy. It makes it look simple.

Yes. He literally hits it like 260 down, dead straight down the middle every time, hits it right at the flag or right where he's aiming every time and puts it. phenomenally. We played 7,200 yards, and it was soft out there, but it's in the desert, so it probably evened out to about playing the yardage. He shots 4 under 68 from 7200 yards. Like, no problem. Yeah. Pudding for Bertie on every hole. Barely whipped out. Max beat him by two. Max is one of the best players in world right now. Yeah. And so Colton Joe. That's crazy. Dude, and Max, and Max, you know, hits it well. He didn't make a ton of puts. He didn't make really any puts. He made one, maybe. So he could have putted a little better, but Max still shot 600, 66, with no blemish.

is not even close and like hits it so good hits it so much farther than me than colt than joe and like colt can just fire a 4168 no problem golf is cool man and then walking around and with a broadcasting backpack and hits a 260 and he loses by two to maybe the best player in the world it really teaches you that like dude if you can just like the whole ride home i was like there's i can be as good as colt and i know in my heart of hearts that's not even close to just hit every shot perfect Never ever, ever, will that ever be close to true? But like you, in your mind, you start thinking like, what is this guy doing that like I'm not?

He just literally steps up, swings his driver, 102 miles an hour. It goes dead straight and with like a one yard draw. And then he just hits his iron, the right yardage in the middle of green or at the flag. And like makes a couple of puts. And the rest, he never three puts. And like, he just shoots 68. I used to have that feeling when I would watch tour pros.

And then after a week of watching tour pros, I'm like, it just doesn't look that out of. reach. You know what I mean? Like it's just, just hit my good shots just do it every time. And and then you go out there and you're two over through five and you're like, what the fuck is going on? And it's funny because Max does put it out of reach. And I say, we say this a lot about Rory. Like when I watch Rory swing, I'm like, I can't do that. I can never do that. But it's more for me like the hundred yards and in. They don't swing very hard. They don't. It's not like, you know, when they're ripping driver 3.30, that's one thing. But it's just like watching them

hit eight irons really consistently middle of the green. Like that doesn't look that. No. And it's funny to think about like how, yeah, like Colt and Max pretty much shot. almost the same round, but like that would have been an eight-shot victory for Max in a golf tournament. Yeah. Right? He would have dusted him. Like, even if that's if they had that same score each day, he beats him by eight. That's like he blew him out of the water.

But in your face in the moment, it's like they played the same game. Max, I will say, like Max, his ball striking and swing, he was shot making their certain, like, the first hole. What course was it? Whisper Rock, the lower course, which is more of the players course, the one that Phil designed, the one that all, like, the better players prefer to play. and do Mac stepped up on the very first hole and hit like a low piercing driver on purpose like squeeze cut that cut like a yard and like that one's a little bit narrow a little bit more awkward of a tee shot I guess like I was kind of like trying to pick his brain and not be the annoying guy that's like interviewing the whole fucking round we're literally in cart together um and then like he had a few times where he pulled a three wood out and just hit this blistering like with a divot just missile stinger and I was I literally said him I was like you need to announce that next time I need to get my phone out like this is insane. He's like, I'm just playing around a golf. And his striking ability with the golf ball is so it's like laughable how good he is at hitting the ball. Especially right now. You got at like the

peak. There's no chance it like misses. There's no chance it was going to be not like not only not in play like way down there. First only out drove me by 64 yards. And I hit a pretty good like I pulled it a little bit but even a pole goes farther. Yeah. I've, you know, I probably hit it out there, 270 or something, you know, and he was like, you know,

whatever the fuck it was. And you're just looking at max is unachievable. How good he is at golf? It's almost like, if I were to see him play a tournament round next week, he's playing again,

and he doesn't shoot 60, six or better. I'm like, how is that possible? He hits every shot perfect. Every shot's perfect. He hits it up on or near the green and a par five into every single hole.

Any short par four, which there's going to be a couple on every, like he's going to be on or near the And then in the off chance that he does miss, it's an unbelievable bunker shot or it's a chance of going in. He's trying to hold it. So, yeah, when you're playing with it, like, it's just so automatic. But then you also realize, like, he's just a person.

Like, he had the president's cup bag and all the stuff. And then he's, like, on his phone, we're laughing about the same shit on Twitter. He's, like, tweeting it stuff in real. And you're like, he's just a human. They're like, now it's his, like, it was just my turn to hit for the last 15 seconds. And now it's just, like, his turn to hit from the same spot. And we're just going to, like, keep doing that for 18 times. And then that's just, we're just doing the exact same thing.

He's just so good at it. It was amazing to watch him hit the ball. And I have to give Colt just the most credit of all time because he's, I can't believe how good he is at golf. It's infuriating how good he is. Hopefully. Hopefully. Our T-T times in 10 minutes.

I don't know about the range. I'm hitting the range. We got time. We're last group off. Okay, good. We're last group off. Okay, beautiful. So we got nobody behind us.

Sunset is scheduled for 653. I feel like that's usually pretty consistent. It doesn't change. It's 120. So if we tee off at 2, we got a good five hours at least, we'll be fine. Yeah, that's fine. We'll move it along. You know what we're going to be using today out there to play good golf?

Taylormane. Yep. Taylorman, always. I shot 78 when I play with those guys from 7,200 yards with a double on 18. I have to give all the credit to my new wedges that I got, my mill grind threes. Range finder rigs. Or booty. I gave Barbudi, and you guys can appreciate this,

full control of my stamps and my wedges. I ordered, I said, hey, I need new wedges. It's been a couple years. I need new MG3s. He goes, no problem. We'll get him sent out to your specs. And I go, is it possible to get creative with him? And he's like, what do you mean by creative?

This is when Barbudi took over the whole text chain. It's like Barbudy and Essie. He's like, what do you mean creative? And I was like, I don't know, stamps, something fun? Like, is that like too late? Would that take like months? He's like, no, we can do that within like a week or two. And I was like, unbelievable.

He was like, what do you want? I was like, Barb booty, more I think about it, why don't you just do it? Like, literally think about me and what I like and just do whatever you want. He's like, you want blues colors? I was like, yeah. He's like, all right. He came up with rangefinder rigs. Has anyone ever called you that before?

What does that even mean? I don't know. And then he just texts afterwards. I send him a picture of all the wedges and he just goes, rangefinder rigs is so good. Are you like a big rangefinder guy? Like, not more than normal, are you? I guess. I mean, good luck in inside the brain of Michael.

I don't want it out. You know? That's just who you are now. I don't want to know. But anyways, Taylor Made, their gear for the last two years, pretty much. We've been decked out. Dan Ravippoor is a new Taylor Made guy, and he's loving it playing phenomenal golf, lost in a playoff to get into a pretty serious tournament using his Taylor Maids for, like,

the second round of using. Playing good. You hit the ball in myel, by the way. Yeah, these are good. I like the P7 MCs are money. I really, really like them. We're going to be going to Tower of Media Day in a couple weeks. We're going to be seeing all kinds of new stuff.

some of the best players in the world that rock. Taylor made, obviously the number one right player in the world. Scotty Sheffler, Taylor-May guy, number one driver of the golf ball, probably in the history of the game of golf. And number two in the world. What's that? And he's number two. Number one and number two right now, but he's number two? Clean sweep at the top for the fellas, using the telemed stealth

driver. Some point is if you're not using it and the best players in the world are using it, what are you doing? And then we're also using it. So go check out Taylormade. I think where I'm going to pull up the link. I think it's what? Taylormadegolf.com slash barstool. Is that right? Taylormaicolff.com slash bars stool to get your stealth driver. You can customize yourselves too.

Matt Barzow, if you haven't seen the video that we put up on our YouTube channel, who's an extremely hot guy. I think I said it too many times. Yeah, but you meant it. I think I said he's hot too many times. I was watching the clips. Too many times for what?

I was thinking about him watching those back being like, I'm never going to talk to that guy again. Like I met him that day. Won't stop talking about how hot he is. I'm sure he gets that a lot. But like, boy, I said it a bunch. I meant it. He's probably thinking like Trent's a beauty.

That blue and orange, customized stealth is insane. I mean, now you're starting to see the stealth's been out for a year. Or maybe, has it even been a year? No. No, he came out in January, January, February. Now you're starting to see the customized ones roll out. I feel like it was always the red face. You saw it.

You saw the black and the red now. Out in the wild, I know Avery from Barstool has, he's like one of our. He's macrodosing guys. Macrodosing. Macrodicing. Macrodicing producer. He's got some crazy colors on his. I think it might have been Rangers colors. Yeah, I think the customization of the stealth

has gone underreported. It's gone way underreported. Go on the website. Check it out. You're going to get the stealth anyway, so just customize it. Yep. TremantGoff.com slash barstool. Why carbon? It gives you better energy transfer and faster ball speeds across the face. So taorme.com slash barstool. All right, boys, we're about to go play golf.

Let's throw it to our boy, Alfonso Ribero, who we described the beginning of the show. You guys sat down with them. I wasn't there for it, so I'm excited to listen. We'll be back on Thursday for yet another big show. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

All right, we are now joined by probably the most special guest, the most recur, special recurring guests of Foreplay History. I think this is the third or fourth time. It's a third. Third one. Third one, I think we did the one in studio, and then we did the one online. That's right.

That one time. So we've got the host of America's Phonious Videos and the co-hosts of Dancing with the Stars, former winner of Dancing with the Stars. Yes. Alfonso Ribeiro, welcome to the show again. It's always great to see you. Great to see you guys. Your energy is unmatched. I can't wait to see what's going on with everybody's swing. Oh. Well, Frankie actually, he brought this up to me right before we started. He has gone

through some serious mental changes in this game and it was inspired by you. I think you led me on that road to see, all right, if the technical stuff isn't really there, right? Maybe there's something else that I need to go pursue. Of course. So I actually, I started this series called fixing Frankie. It hasn't come out yet. I feel like it's going to be that like where we just keep saying this series. It just hasn't come out yet. It's almost what talk show host always said Matt Damon was going to come out. Oh, I think it was. Is it a Kimmel? Kimmel. Yeah. So that's going to be my fixing Frankie series. But I went to go see this this guy, Dr. Brett McCabe. Okay. And he works with John Rom. He works at Billy Horshill. He works with all these athletes, pitchers, whatever. And we really just talked out the just my game and my decision making.

And what am I thinking over over a chip? And it unlocked something. I'm telling you the next day when I went on the course with him, the game felt easier. I was thinking in the right mindset. I wasn't getting down. Every time I'd duff a chip or I'd hit one sideways, he'd be like, who cares? Let's think about the next shot. And why are you thinking negatively or where are you aiming on the shot? Why are you trying the hero shot?

Let's get the ball to the middle of the green so that your expectations aren't as high. And then all of a sudden your goals become easier to reach. Absolutely. It was crazy. And I went from a 10-5 handicap to a 4-9, I'm currently. Wow. In one summer. And a lot of it is process, right?

It's process. So standing behind the ball, looking at my target. Right. And then for me, it was... See small, miss small. Yes, but also my personality, I'm so just eccentric and I'm crazy and I like to like curse at myself and scream. And then he said, let's use that.

Let's not change who you are. Right. Before your shot, why don't you loudly say what you're trying to do? Speak it out loud. I'm trying to hit this ball over this bunker right now. Right. Tell the people. So it's almost like you're about to show them something.

Of course. And it worked. Yes. When I'm to myself, it doesn't work. So that's very much like Tom Watson, right? He used to hit a bad shot. And the first thing he would say to his caddy is, watch this. Because he's like, I'm about to do this next one is going to be amazing.

Yeah. Right. So it's automatically taking a negative and turning it immediately into a positive. Right. And then taking that energy all the way from where you are to the ball, to the process. to then hitting the shot that you know you're going to hit something special. Now, Tom Watts is going to hit something, watch this meant I was going to do something really amazing.

But even, but the process of it all is all relative is like, hey, this next one's about to be great. Yes. Because the odds are that it's like, you mess up and then you get a good one. Right, right. So let's focus on the good one. I found it very interesting that like he said, he works with John Rom, Dr. Brett McCabe, and you don't want to change who John Rom is. You watch John Rom on the golf course.

He's fiery. caught under the collar. He can get frustrated. And Dr. Brett McKay is not going to change that because he was the number one player in the world for a long time. Right. Like you don't want to change him so much that he's no longer John Rom, the potential number one golfer in the world.

I thought that was really interesting. You still got to be yourself out there. You have to be who you are. Right. Right. Because your authentic self will always show up when you're not thinking. Right. Right?

Like you're, when you're thinking about something, you can maybe be somebody else. But when you're just out there doing it, you're going to be you. So how do you use that? How do you, how do you, you know, it's when you play tournaments, right, you see guys to a completely different setup, completely different morning. You know, the routine is different. And then you go, well, how'd you play? I played really badly. Wonder what changed.

Yeah. Right. Your routine changed, right? So this year, right, Tahoe. I was like every year I grind before Tahoe, right? And for some reason, I would get up there and the worst game would show up. And I'd be like, what? So this year I was like, I'm not going to play golf before Tahoe and just go up there, practice the days before and play the tournament and just be like, whatever.

And I said to myself, I was like, hey, Al, guess what? you probably have the best time of your life right now. Like you have the job that you want, the next job that you wanted, and life is great, the kids are great, the family's great, who cares? Yep. What happens up here this week? My best finish in the last like seven years. There you go.

It's mindset. Right? And it was just because when you hit a bad shot, you're like, I haven't been playing. Yeah, that's right. Right? So the expectations were like, I got a reason in my mind. I haven't been playing. So it's fine.

It's okay. that I didn't hit the perfect shot every shot like I did at home. It's a different circumstance. Now let's hit the next one. And it was easier and had more fun even when I had a bad shot. Very interesting. Yeah, and a lot of people will say to me, my buddies in particular, where they're like, you're playing the most golf of your life,

how are you having a couple bad holes? Like you should be playing well every time. Or why are you so mad that you're playing bad? Isn't your handicap at the lowest it's ever been? And I say it's unlocked higher expectations for me now. Like I know I went out and shot. 75 ball and hole it's the best I've ever played right now than when I shoot in 87 I'm like well I just lost 12 strokes on my best game now that's my potential is so much more than it ever had been so

that's a new struggle so that I'm dealing with so now if I'm if I'm doing coaching here we go yes yes right like a guy goes out and shoots 61 how often does he back that up yeah once in a lifetime right Right? Very rarely. He typically will shoot 71, 72 the next day, right? Because I've always felt like golf is like, well, you're going to have this many great holes this year. And sometimes they get clumped together and sometimes the bad one gets clumped together, right? Yeah. So you might have a day every once in a while.

Like you have a day where it's like, I don't know what that was. Yeah. I have no clue who that guy was on the golf. horse today. Yep. But guess what? Tomorrow? It's going to be the guy I know.

Because that happens. It happens to the best of them. It happens to Tiger. It happens to Jack Nicholas. It happened to Arnie. It happens to Rahm. It happens to the best of them. They go out and they have a great day and you'll see it every once in a while, even in the

middle of a round. Guy has it going. And all of a sudden he gets one bad shot and it's like, uh-oh. Can he get it back or does he lose it for the rest of the round? You see it all the time. So it's like, you have bad days. It's allowed. When you're playing in Tahoe, we were talking a couple of guys at the

President's Cup down in Charlotte. It's a different game for them when they have adrenaline going as opposed to when they're playing on Thursday at 930 and no one's watching them. Do you feel like you're that, have you gotten to the point where you're used to that and being able to harness? Because now all of a sudden you're a Tahoe. It's a huge event. There's fans everywhere.

You're obviously a very recognizable person on there. So you're drawing a lot of eyeballs. Have you been able to harness that like energy and, Do you have two different games now? So I recognize what I'm feeling now. Oh, nice. Whereas there was a time when I wouldn't know what I was feeling. And I couldn't figure out why I couldn't concentrate.

Right? So I would be like, why do I feel overwhelmed? And it was like, oh, because my nerves in this energy. Now I'm able to recognize it and use it as a tool. So, oh, beginning of the round. Hey, Al, take less club. Yep. You have adrenaline.

Right? So let's play to the front edge rather than play to the middle of the green. Because I know that I'm going to hit this ball is going to go further than it normally does for two holes. That makes a huge difference. Right? When it's tournament. Right? And then you've used up your adrenaline. You start, like, it's something as simple as looking at your hand.

Is it shaken? Is it steady? Hell yeah. Do you put your hand in your pocket and it feels easy? Or is it like, is there tension? Right? all of those things that you become totally aware of your feelings because now I am comfortable it's this is what it is I'm going to walk out there and it'll be you know it's experience

a thousand people at the first tee watching what is it going to feel like you go all right it's there today so let's play to the front edge that's like guys on tour will say that same thing if they're trying to get their first one it's way harder than the second third and fourth because they don't know they didn't know what it felt like the first time And then the second time, they're like, oh, I know what being in contention feels like. I'm over this putt and it feels like it did the first time. I know what that is. I know what that feels like.

And I know what my tendency is. Right. So it's not that. So you'll see it every once in a while and you'll see the commentators who are really smart and really good at what they do will say, oh, his whole routine has picked up. He's faster. Right? Oh, that's a bad sign. because now that adrenaline is making him play golf differently.

When you think about practice like you play, and I use this with my kids all the time because they're in baseball now, and I say practice like you play. I need you pitching the ball to me as if there's a batter standing here and as if you need to make a pitch or you're going to walk this guy. That's how you have to practice every time. And so you create this ease. I noticed it with me that when I'm out hanging out with my boys and I'm just playing golf,

I say this all the time to my guys. All right, I'm on 17 in Tahoe. I got to hit a little nice draw into this shot and it'll be on a hole. And I'm like picturing Tahoe and going, here we go. And as for some reason, it's always easier. So I reversed it. When I got the Tahoe, I got 17 and I was like, hey, you're in hole 15 at Lakeside. Go ahead and just make a nice smooth swing here.

And it's a good shot. Wow. Right? I won the closest to the whole Friday. They did like a little outside tournament thing. And I hit the first one to like five feet and third one and the second one to like three feet. And it was, I literally had the moment where I was like, you're at eight. When you're at Lakeside, I was on six.

And I was like, this is perfect six. Just draw this one right into the cup. And visualize the hole and then get up and hit the shot. And it works. It works in your mind. This game is all here. Once you build your swing, your swing is your swing.

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wasn't going where I wanted to go. And he said, let's have two different range sessions, one to warm up. I don't care where the ball goes. Just swing and get loose. He goes, if you watch a pro range session, they don't care where the first 10 or 15 go. They're just talking to their caddy. They're talking to their teacher. And they're just hitting ball sideways long. They're just loosening up their arms. And then every shot from then on out, once you're done and you're stretched out, let's actually have a process and a thing that we're trying to accomplish on the range. I never used to do that. I try and get the ball in the air. That's what I try and do in the range. So I'll do that now and I'll hit the ball. And then I'll say,

all right, you're on the first tee, and I know the first tea at Colonial has trees on the left and trees on the right. And I picture it. And my drive is always like worse or different like than they were right before I actually envisioned that because now of a sudden there's pressure involved. Right. And there's a target. So, you know, to all, I mean, and I get messages about this from all our listeners like they're starting to take these mental practices onto the range and when they practice because like you're saying, you have to practice like you play. That applies to golf more than anything. More than any other. When do we ever just hit the ball on the, on a golf course and don't care where it goes.

We care every inch of where it goes. Right. And not just the direction, but specifics. Right. Right. Right. Like this far on this line. Exactly. Right.

So one of the things that I started to really, that really changed my game, I feel like my game is the best right now that it's ever been in terms of being able to take breaks and still be able to go out and play. Wow. Right. Because I used to just grind all the time, right? And never really stop hitting balls. Now I can stop for a month, come out, and shoot 73, 74, right?

Because I built a swing now that I know what has to happen. And I have a go-to shot. What is it? Draw. Okay. Right? So I know. I can hit a draw whenever I want.

So for me, it's, hey, this is a hard hole. What's your shot shape? It's a draw. comfortable. I know I can hit it. Right? Set up, fall there, slight closed face,

go ahead and let the hands drop, swing through it, that ball's going left. Yeah. Right? So when I see water on the right, I'm like, perfect. This ball is nowhere near that water

where it ends up. Right. I'm going to start it inside the water in case it don't. But, right? Like, don't be mad at yourself. be like, well, why'd you aim for the water? I don't aim for it.

Aim inside of it. But I know that the ball's moving away from the water. And it just, when you know that and you have that shot, now there's no tension. So on a draw, tension will not let you draw the ball because you won't release. Right. I see. You'll hold on. Yeah.

Tension has you holding on. So now you hit a block. Right? So I know that I've got to be relaxed to hit that draw. So I make sure that I'm relaxed. before I stand over that ball and I know it's going to draw. So I've created this by practice.

Practice where I'm on the driving range and I'm like, that pin out there is water. Every shot for the next 10 shots has to be left of that pin. It helps a lot. I started at the pin, but every one of them have to go left. And so now when you get on the course, you've eliminated half of the golf course, essentially.

I've eliminated the trouble. Right. That's what Butch Harmon taught DJ. right? Yes. He said stop hitting multiple shapings of your shots. Just hit a drop.

Or hit a cut. And DJ's hit a cut. Sorry. So DJ hasn't hit a draw in like four years or something like that. And ever since then, he was number one player in the world at that point. But like the only reason why he wasn't number one

was when he would take breaks and take a minute to come back. Right. But if you eliminate, now most pros do that. Now they can hit both ways, but they have a go-to. You have to.

Right? For DJ specifically with Butch, it was, let's never hit a draw. Yes. But for most players, it's what's your go-to? When you stand on a T-box,

what do you see? Right. Rory just hits that towering, that draw. Right. It's insane. Right. And where he gets in troubles

when he tries to cut. Yep. Right? The minute he tries to cut, hmm, yeah, some things might. It's trouble.

Because his natural transition is a fall. If that hands fall, that natural transition that he has is always going to produce a draw. And the only difference is he hits, he hits a whole,

off and then it actually ends up being more of a block than ever a cut. Right. But it's know your tendencies. Know your best shots, know the quality of your shots, and know what the missing is, right? So one time I had this kid, he's a young aspiring pro, right? And he caddied for me in an event. And he taught me something I'd never seen.

His name is Tripp Morris and he's working, James Morris, his real name, but we call him Tripp. and he's working toward trying to get to the tour. And he goes, okay, here's what we're going to do. And this was brilliant. He goes, all right, 5% 10% rule, meaning that if you're in the fairway, we're going to figure out what the 5% miss is, because that's what your miss should be out of the fairway.

Out of the rough, we're calling it a 10% miss, right? So you've got 150 yards in the fairway. 5% of that, right, is what? You got, Trent, can you answer that question? 5% of 150? Yeah. Oh, boy. You're not going to trip me up on some basic masks.

Well, by the way, 10% would be 15, so we go 7.5. So, 7.5 yards, 7.5 yards in all directions of the pin. Now when you look at the green, where's your miss? Right? So if the pin is four yards. from the right edge, you can't aim at the pin. You got to aim three or four yards left of the pin. Because if you accidentally hit it right,

the five-yard miss is on the edge of the green. If it's short, that puts you on the green. You got to then hit a couple extra yards because the 5% miss. The goal is to get it on the green. When we're playing in the tournament, we're playing in the Hilton Grand Vacations tournament down in Orlando. And he caddied for me and he was like, okay,

So we're not going at that pin today. I was like, why are we not going at that pin? I got 102 yards to it. He goes, yeah. But if you do the 5% miss, there's a drop off right before the pin, right of it. If you hit the drop off, you're going all the way down to the bottom of that hill. And that's the worst place that you can be to that pin because you can't actually then get it close even if you're chipping. So we need to go left of it and we need to go three yards long of it.

I was like, okay, right? and then the pro in our group and the other celebrity, we're all down there. And I was like, that was brilliant. And then the 10% rule if you're in the rough because that's a typical miss out of the rough, you figure out where the actual pin for you on that shot is because sometimes it's not the pin

because of the misfactor changed the way that I saw the game from that point forward because now everything is, I'm not necessarily going at that pin, I'm going where I have the best percentage of where I can hit this green that will allow me an easy put. Now, sometimes that might be, it's sometimes better to misdegrate. Right. Than to be above it, side, whatever.

Yeah. But being able to come up with that 5, 10% rule was, I was like, dude, that was brilliant. It was brilliant because I hit more greens in regulation than I ever had, ever in any tournament. Right. Because I was just putting it on the green. We were putting it in a safe spot. on the green, allowing my putter a chance to either save me, do something great, or protect me. And it was the best playing, and it changed the way that I saw how to play in tournaments.

It's very similar to a decade ago. That's what I was going to ask you. Is there any, because you know more about it than I do. Scott Fawcett is a teacher, and he worked with Will Zalotaurus. And he works about basically it's every shot has like that has a chart to it where it could go a little bit to the left. that could go a little bit to right. And he finds out how many yards from the center of that shot you can go and he finds you a target.

And that's off the T, it's off the fairway shots onto the green. Yep, yep. And yeah, I mean, Will, I mean, Scott Foss has turned into kind of a wild boy on Twitter and he gets himself into some trouble. But his actual process is incredible. Right. It's incredible the way that he can work it. And it's very similar to the 5% and 10%.

I need to pay attention to him. But yeah, yeah, you will. He's got all these seminars and stuff and all these pros. I mean, we talked to Kisner about it. They all abide by his. Stuart Sink uses it. He got a couple wins recently. They go by his process, and he's kind of like up in your face about it being like,

I fixed the game at golf, I changed it. No one's ever been thinking about the game this way. Give me all the praise. And it's like kind of annoying. I actually worked with him on fixing Frankie. He's a great guy. When you're with him, it's great. But I brought him out to our course.

And the first four or five holes, I just played my way. And I went like boogie, bogey, par, bogey. And then we played the decade golf way. And I went par, par, par, birdie. par and it was insane. It was like, we were talking. The game just got so much easier. If you create the proper thoughts

over every shot, the miss becomes so much better. And the game of golf is about your misses and not about your great shots. You have to prepare for the misses, essentially. You have to, you try to hit a great shot and prepare for the miss.

So Willis Al Torres was always going, what was he? He was always laying up on like par fives and then trying, to get really close or going towards pins. And he wasn't making as many birdies. He definitely wasn't making that many eagles. And Scott Fawcett taught him how to like go for the middle of the green and two and just like rip it to the center. And then ever since then Will made the most eagles he ever made in his career.

He was making the most birdies. Almost won the masters. He's all over. Because he unlocked something that he hadn't done because he was preparing. Even if I miss going for it, I'm still in the same spot that I would have been had I laid up. Right. So like you're preparing for that miss. Anytime you can take, eliminate a shot.

Yes. That's a shot you've eliminated. Yes. That's huge. I mean, it's as stupid as what I just said, but it's exactly that. I used to always go for it on par fives. Part fives, man, I'm hitting this driver as hard as I can so that I have a little less on the next one to try to get it there and two. And even if I can't get there and two is my chipping game.

better than my 120 yards out game. Right? I think it is. You'd have to think that I could get it inside of more often than not from 20 yards than I could from 110, 120. Right. Like you have to believe in that.

And by the way, and if that's not the case, now you know what to work on. It's real simple when you practice, where am I going today? I'm going to chip. I'm going to pitch. because that's the area that I have the ability today to actually make a difference.

My game has always been I could hit the ball far. And then I would be afraid to go for it and two. And then I was like, that's stupid. Like you need to, because I couldn't chip. Right. I learned how to chip. Now whatever. You've said that so many times in the past,

not that you've gotten fixed, but you would be like, I would be more comfortable hitting a 110 shot than a 60-yard shot. They used to avoid it. I used to avoid hitting. And now that I'm, I have a more full game. I wait for that opportunity to have like a 35 yard over a bunker chip. I know I'm going to zip it right next to the pin.

You feel comfortable with it. I just feel comfortable with this. So that unlocks more than just that shot and it unlocks more shot before. And the shot before that. And the shot before that because like now I'm more aggressive or I can even be less aggressive and I know my next shot's going to be really close to the pin. It's just changed my whole game and my whole outlook on where I'm going to try and attack. You can be aggressive with your driver because your second shot,

even if it's from the trees, you could get it to 35 yards and know that you can still get up and down. That's exactly right. Right? You're not putting yourself behind on a shot necessarily. Maybe you won't be able to make birdie, but you know you can make par

and completely eliminate the double as long as you keep it in the park. 100%. Right? So that's always like being aggressive, you have to time it. You have to do it at the right time, but be aggressive.

Yeah. Go hit that thing. Right? Like I stand on the T-box and I'm very rarely unless I know that there's real danger by hitting the driver, man, I'm, let's go rip. Let's go, baby. We're about to smash it grab. Let's go, you know, and just smash it.

And then, okay, I hit it great. Now I'm in position. Yeah. Didn't hit it great, all right? Yeah. I get out of trouble. I can move the ball however I want. So if I need to keep it low underneath some branches or I need to, well, hit the shot.

And I'll get it to a comfortable yardage and then I'll get on. But you ain't going to make eagles unless you're going. Right. Boys, would you pay a tennis instructor to improve your putting game? No. No. Hard no. Would you want to get your haircut by someone not trained in men's hair?

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I know you got America's funniest videos. You got Dancing with the Stars. You seem like you're very, very busy. Are you the busiest you've ever been right now? Probably the most like the busiest in terms of multiple shows. Okay. Like obviously when I was doing Fresh Prince, right? Like it was a five day a week job and dancing is not, you know,

Dancing with the Stars is not a five day a week job. It's a three day a week job. And then AFE is a two day a week job, right? Which equals the five. But, but AFE's not every week, right? So I do have more time. But because it's the beginning of Dancing Winter Stars for me, I'm putting a lot of extra effort into really making sure that each week I am fully,

fully prepared and ready and I'm building relationships. I feel like at the beginning of this show, like my job is, I'm doing the interviews, right? So I'm up in the skybox and I'm talking and giving the contestants an opportunity for them to sell themselves to America, but I got to know them. And they also have to be comfortable with me.

And so we need our inside jokes and we need our time. You can only do that with time with those people. The only time I have because of their rehearsal schedule is Sunday. So Sunday I go in and I just sit there all day. And each group comes in, hang out with them for a little bit. they go away, the next one comes in, and all day long I'm building these relationships and I'm learning information and I'm going back to the producers and I'm saying, ooh, they were telling me about this. I think that's a better question than what we have planned.

So let's incorporate that into what we, because they really want to talk about that and they light up when they're talking about it. So the golf game is right now on pause, but in a few weeks it'll be where I'm able to get back out there a bit more right now. I've kind of gotten like two rounds in in the last month. And that for me is like, what? Yeah. But that's fine.

But this new swing, it's not a full, it wasn't like necessarily a change in the swing, but it was a trigger in my swing has allowed me to take time off and come right back, right? I'm really focusing on my lower body. My upper body does what it does. I've got great hands. I've got the ability to get the club back to the ball however I want to bring it in there. So I can hit my cut. I can hit my draw.

I can manipulate the hands however I want in the swing. But really getting this lower body turning and going before. There's a very interesting story how I got to this. So became friends with Nick Faldo at AT&T this year. We're up at Pebble Beach. And we're texting back and forth. We're like, hey, let's go to dinner. Right.

So we go to dinner and we have a great night and we're talking. And he's talking a little bit about swing, but mostly about life. The next day he comes on the rain. He's an interesting cat, Nick Falto. And he's great. He's great. We get to the range the next day, and I'm on the range, and he walks up and he's like, all right, let's see it. Right? And I'm like, oh, goodness. So I, you know, but I'm hitting it decent, right? Not great, but decent. And I'm hitting, hitting, hidden. And he then proceeds to give me a 45-minute lesson. Wow. The day before the first round. That's tough. Right? And he's changing 15 things. And you're like, oh, God, oh, God, what do I say?

Right. Right. And my. Caddy, who happens to be a pro, you know, a club pro, is like, so after he leaves, he goes, how much of that are you planning on using? Because that could be a problem. I was like, two things. Okay.

I'm using two things of that. I'm going to do this and that. And really it was, I'm going to set the lower body on the takeaway, really set the knee, and I'm going to drag the club away, which would give me some extension. And I played great, right? Made the cut. My pro, Brian Gay.

you know, and I was often the way I said this at one of the functions, it was like he was six over and we were 22 under, right? Yeah. Like that means that I played really well, right? Right. But it was actually, but those numbers are not represented properly because he also had a nine on a hole that I made birdie. Sure. So, right? So there were holes where he blew up and I would cover us, but, and I made a bunch of birdies and he made a bunch of birdies.

and he made a bunch of birdies, because he had Jekyll and Hyde golf. Yeah. Right? And so what would happen is he'd make a birdie and then he'd make a bogey. But on those bogeys, I was making par. Right? So I helped the team, but not necessarily with the birdies.

So that move. But with getting that information from Nick, it fixed all of the little issues that I used to have with my swing that I had to have reps to actually be good at, right? To be able to get past those little things. that would have made me better. He fixed all of those. So now the swing doesn't,

I don't need the reps to stay in timing. Right. Timing's just there. Yeah. Right? The lower body starts and then when it stops, the hands and everything else finishes, it's like,

it just made it easy. So I give Nick Faldo a ton of credit for the fact that now I can take breaks and it works. It's also a credit to you to find the two things and everything that he was telling you because that's a lot of information.

It was a lot of information. But you found the two. things that helped you and that's huge. Yes. And it was great. And it was fantastic. Right. It's amazing. We worked, we were in Scotland right before the open and we worked with this guy where I worked with this guy, Chris Ryan, who's a, he's an Englishman. I think he was English, right? I believe so. Yeah. Okay. But he basically just popped up on this driving range and he is like famous on YouTube for teaching people really quickly how to fix their game. Okay. And it's amazing what you're saying, like just that one steadiness of the lower body and then like the sweeping motion. Chris Ryan essentially

taught me to get my club to his hand, he'd catch my hand. And then every, he goes, everything from here is just going to happen on its own. Right. So get it here and it's just going to drop, go through the ball, you're going to hit up on it, and you're going to hit a bomb. Right. And I've thought of that every single time I've taken the club back. I picture him standing there.

And I just get my club to his hand. Right. I can feel it. I can see him. I can feel him grabbing the club still to this day. And obviously, if your weight is in the right spot, then you have nothing to fix. Exactly. Right? Like the first thing whenever I see somebody, the first tip, the first thing I look at are hips, right? And on the takeaway, whatever the back hip would be,

whether you're right or your left, so if you're right of your right hip, left to your left, if does the hip rotate or go up? Right. If the hip goes up, you have a slice. Yep. I did that forever. If the hip rotates and stays level, you can hit either one. Right. And so whenever you're looking at somebody, I'm like, did the hip go up or the hips up? You're hitting a slice. And so then you go, let me work with this feeling of, and Drew Steckle gave me this feeling of take your right butt cheek straight back and that will rotate your hips. Right?

So this butt cheek is going this way. Then it can't go this way. So you rotate and now you're locked in as long as your right knee doesn't go straight. Yeah. Right? It can straighten up a little bit. but as long as you have some tension on that, now that right leg hasn't become locked.

And now from there, it's go. Right. And then everything else becomes easy following. So between the two, right, of making that go back and not up, but then using my upper body to sway off with this dragging motion has created length without this getting outside my right foot thing that I used to have to have, used to happen all the time.

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How do you feel about my boy going to a 10-finger grip on the tea? Oh, you got physically sick at the alpha. He's taking a sip of water. It's still in its early stages. We played a four-minute scramble against the Colorado Avalanche, Stanley Cup champions, and this guy, Kel McCar. So they're golfers? They're golfers.

No, they're not golfers. They're pretty good. So I can't hit it very far off the T And I was like, I'm just going to try this I'm going to try, because usually I'm interlocked. I'm going to try the 10 finger grip. And I did it like three or four times during that round And I was pounding the ball.

His ball speed had to have gone up 10 miles an hour. I'm talking instant. Right. It was just jumping off it. And we think that it unlocked the 10 finger grip for him unlocked his right arm and hand coming through the ball as it never had been right. I just feel more athletic that way.

We don't know how to now bring that back into interlock where it's like what was he missing with the? Here's the question. Does it need to be interlock? Can it be overlap? I don't know. You're doing a 10-finger group with space in between it, aren't you? Yeah, it's great.

It's pretty nuts. It's pretty nuts. I will start by saying I don't like it. I think that's fair. Right? That's not for me, right? Because what you're ultimately doing is you're making a right-handed, if you're right-handed, you're making a right-handed golf swing.

And it's the right-hand, in my opinion, should absolutely. be involved in the swing. It shouldn't be completely passive. But you're, you're, it's a timing issue. Right. That when you get off, you're going to be light years off. I've done it a couple times. Right. Versus trying to, and golf to me is about small misses, right? So you want to do this to your misses, not this to your misses while gaining this. Because yes, it's important to get that, But golf is played on a golf course. It's not played on a driving range, right? Right.

So the 10-finger grip, especially if you're creating this more of a hockey, right, swing versus a golf swing. But where that speed is coming from is in this. Yep. Right? You might as well not even have a left hand on the club. Agreed. Right? You just, bam, right?

Sorry, I've hit the mic. Bam, you could hit that all day long, right? Are you saying I should do that? No. Okay. What I'm saying is the overlap will still allow you to still have some feeling in the right hand, but not be complete with the right hand. Because this dragging is where extension comes from, right?

And extension is speed. You just haven't tapped into what parts of your body your energy needs to come from. not necessarily like we all play baseball right so if you play baseball you want to feel your hands golf isn't about feeling the hands it's about knowing where the hands are okay it's amazing that Alvonne Ribero's the greatest

golf coach that we have on the show it's fucking hilarious for sure there's comedy in that so it's the drag right it's it's length it's body it's body right so I used to do this in the beginning and we'll kind of move away from the mic just for a second

to do this, right? We're on YouTube. People can sit. Grab my hand. Right? Now, if I'm doing it with my hands, I have a certain amount of power. Yeah.

Right? If I do it with my body, it's a lot more. Okay? It's a lot more. So because I do it with my body, that pulling motion, right, is so much more powerful.

The problem is that you don't know how to time it. Yep. So you can time this because you've done it your whole life. But it's about this pull motion. If your left hip, it's very simple, if your right hip goes back at the takeaway and your left hip comes through on the swing, now once your left hip stops going back, that's when the upper body and everything else continues. But you're using your entire left side.

If you'll notice whenever you see DJ or whoever, some of the bigger hitters, they work the Smith bar big time. They're constantly. You see Lexi, right, working in the gym. She's constantly working on this because you're building your lats, you're building your abs, your left side abs, you're building your left hip, you're building your left quad. And that is where all of this speed really comes from

and then you just release this. Yeah. Right? Whereas bang. Bang feels good now. Yeah. You can't control it. Stop banging.

Yeah, the 10 finger grip, I know that it's dirty. There's something dirty. Like it's wrong. You can't control it. No. So you're trying to do something that feels good. Feels great. Right?

It feels good. Uh-huh. But you're not going to play better golf with it. Yeah. You're right. Because now what happens, what do you do on a chip shot? I know. We've only used it off the tee, right?

Yeah. Like this disease hasn't spread through the whole. Well, it's a good thing it didn't spread. Yeah. Right? Because, you know, you can take down the whole city. We can take us all out. You don't feel so damn good.

That bang is not worth it. But, you know, my wife could say to you, you know, everything that feels good ain't a good thing. So, you know, it might feel good, but it ain't, it's not a good thing. You're right. Because you're, you're, you're hurting other aspects of the golf swing for the one thing that you're, that you're gaining, which is distance. But there's other ways to get distance that will also support the rest of the golf swing. No more. I know.

I'm just always thinking about my second shot. I want to be hitting a seven or an eight iron as opposed to a five or six. We're doing this Breaking 90 series. We did Breaking 100 trying to accomplish it. We're doing Breaking 90. It's ball and hole. USGA rules. And we're at what,

episode nine now? Yeah. It's an amazing series because it's a dude just going out there to try and break 90. Right. Right. And we get a lot of comments and a lot of people like are on this journey with us. But they're all saying like, oh, like move him up. Like stop playing from 6400, play from 5800 and stop playing from 70 to par 70.

two play at par 70. It's like, yeah, but that's, we're saying like, he's just going to get better. We're not going to try and, like, move him closer to the hole. Because at that point, we could just put him on the green. Yeah, by the way, by the way, we're not even teeing off anymore. Right. So, you know what? We're going to put putt, putt, and he broke 90. So that's one, that's one, that's one, like, well, how do we get him more distance? Because he is hitting on par fours from 200 yards out. And it's too much for him,

because he's hitting only 220 off the T sometimes. Right. And it's like, well, now it's like, breaking 90 is actually pretty difficult from back there because a par four is. is not that easily reached from 210 when a guy's only hitting 220 off the tee. Right. So we're trying to figure out ways to get more because he has it there.

The guy's fucking huge. He's an athlete. I mean, he's got the good swing too. It's so I'm not sure I mentioned this one of the first, one of the first times I think I was here, I talked about, remember when you were a kid and you'd whip with the towel? Yeah.

Right? I find that to be one of the best drills for golf. So you get the towel. You wrap it up, right, and you get a thing. And then you go, right? You feel this flip at the end of your hand. And this is not what you're going to do in the golf swing. But what you are feeling is the end of that towel.

Leg. Right? You're going to feel, you're feeling something in space. So if you're able to feel something in space with your left hand, what you're also going to be able to do is know where the head of that club is. So if you know where the head of the club is, you know how to help get more. whip at the bottom because you're aware of something that's in space. Yeah. Once you're aware of it in space, you can go faster because you know where it is. What happens when people who don't know where the head of the club is and they go faster,

they hit it further right because they get out in front of it. Your right hand going to your 10-finger grip is I know where it is because I feel it here and I'm holding it tight and I'm whipping it at the ball so I don't need to know where this is in space. I know where my hand is. If you know where the head of the club is in space with your left hand, you will gain speed. Eventually you will gain speed because you know where it is. You can make adjustments as the club is coming down. And you also get to know the whip, right? So I'm going to whip harder. So to whip it harder doesn't mean you throw your hands harder. No.

You whip it harder. Okay. Why does that work in a golf swing? Because when each body part stops, the next one continues all the way to the head of the club. You load your hips go. Hips stop. Body turns. Body reaches a point where it can't go anymore and the hands release.

Right? So through the swing as things are stopping, each one gains more power. Each one gains more speed as long as you don't stop one in between. What I mean by stop one is not have it reach the end of its life. Yeah. Right? It has to all work all the way to wham. And then it's catching back up over here.

But those hips, I showed you, how much more power. power by turning the body. So much more. Now I got lag. Right? Yeah. Now that lag is going to create so much more speed at the bottom because when it finally goes, it's all going.

You're not releasing some of the energy along the way. Yeah. Right? Being right-handed, you're creating this whip at the bottom. You're doing what I'm telling you to do, but you're doing it with the wrong hand. Let's create the whip. in the left hand, not in the right. And that will create a bang at the bottom.

By rotating until it stops. You can't rotate with your right hand. We got to get you a towel. I want to swing a golf club so bad. We got to get your towel first. I know we're running a little late and he's got to go. I mean, we can't. Legitimately five hours.

We just keep doing this. But we know you got AFB out. You've got Dancing with the Stars. When is this all airing? So AFE starts October. second. So it's coming right up. We premiere on ABC Sunday nights at 7 6th Central. And every Monday night we are live streaming. The first live streaming

television show ever on Disney Plus is Dancing with the Stars. And it's 8-7 Central live across the country. You know, you used to be if you lived in California, you had to watch it at 8 o'clock. Right. And they would delay it. And you couldn't vote. This is live streaming to everybody in the U.S., Canada, and Puerto Rico, and it's the first ever. And it's, so now, because it's streaming, there's no commercials. So you're going, it's a two-hour show that is jam-packed of dancing, of fun, comedy, good times, heartfelt stories, all of it in one. Amazing. Incredible. It's a good time. Awesome. We're looking forward to seeing you again. We'll be down in Orlando, right? We're going to be in Orlando. Yes, we'll be back

So you'll be down at the Hilton. I'm hoping I've already put the dates into my team. And I'm like, please. Right. Please, I'd like to play in it again. I really do love it. So hopefully I get to see you guys and come hang out. And I would love to maybe we can go out and do a practice round if you're there.

And I'll take a look at it also. Listen, I'm not a real swing coach. But I think I do know enough that I can assist in what you're trying to go for. Yep. Right? Like you can't teach somebody to have good hands, but you can't teach them to have a good body to use their body. And that is a simple, it's a very simple way to help people in their golf swing.

Well, I'd love to play with you guys. Thanks again, Alfonso. And to see you now as a four. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Keep doing it. You don't have to get me strokes. Oh, yeah.