Fore Play - Live from Pebble with Kevin Kisner (oh and we met Tiger Woods)
Episode Date: June 11, 2019We caught up with Tiger Woods at Pebble Beach. It was awesome. We tell the story and talk running into Bryson, JT, and being on property day one. Then for an hour we catch up with Kevin Kisner (48:43)... and caddie Dewey from Kiz's rental house to talk U.S. Open, how Pebble's playing, get stories, and laugh with Kiz. Major show for a major week!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Big thanks to our very close personal friend, the United States Golf Association.
They're the best.
They put on a fantastic tournament every single year.
We are out in Pebble Beach.
We are live from a mansion in Pebble, an unbelievable house.
It's a smart house, which has actually given us a lot of issues.
because we're not that smart and the house is very smart.
It's very modern, all the technology and all that.
But we are live from Pebble Beach.
We're coming off of, I don't know,
maybe the biggest single moment in the history of foreplay.
Has to be.
A little hangout, a little meet and greet, chit chat.
A little chit chat.
I'd call the chit chat.
The reigning Masters champion, Tiger Woods,
15-time major champion, Tiger Woods,
81-time PGA Tour champion, Tiger Woods,
a guy who some referred to as the boss man and others would say that we take care of the boss man
and tonight we we caught up with a one eldrick tiger woods and uh and it was glorious it was
absolutely glorious we're going to get all through that we're going to go through the details of that
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So today, day one at Pebble Beach.
We also have Kevin Kisner on this show.
Okay, Kiz.
We did like an hour with kids at his house.
Kiz and Dewey.
With him and Dewey is catty.
His fucking, Kiz always delivers.
He was laugh out loud, funny.
We're not going to go through a ton of U.S. Open preview stuff
because we did a lot of it with kids.
kids we talked about the course we talked about the greens how the greens are different what he likes
about him what kids doesn't like about him what's key hitting fairways which holes are the toughest like
we went through a lot of that stuff with kids and then obviously you get a lot of a clown show type
stuff with kids a lot of funny stories do we kind of chirping kids at the same time so that's awesome
that's coming up in a few minutes first we got to go through the kind of the entire day you know we
had an awesome time at the pGA championship there's no doubt about that
that. PGA of Bethpage was
a little bit of our coming out party
to this kind of phase of
for play and us
being in the mix. That's a phrase you're going to hear
a lot just in the mix being around.
We are so in the mix. No one's ever been
more in the fucking mix than we are in the
we're in the blender. We're in the bowl. Mix it
up, baby. Check mix.
That happened at the BGA.
And again, we had Bryson,
was given Frankie the chipping lesson. We're
chatting it up with Jordan Span. We did
so well at the PGA.
I actually thought that we were like,
I was like nervous going to the U.S.
Open.
Like how the fuck are we going to like,
you know,
we're going to out the U.S.
Open.
Are these guys even going to interact with us anymore?
Are we like going to be like,
I don't know.
It felt like we should our load too early,
not to get a little too gross.
I know all different ages
listen to this podcast.
It's like really do.
I don't want to blow my load too early.
And that could be about anything.
It felt like we were due for a letdown.
For sure.
Because the P.J.
did go extremely well.
P.J.
felt like it was.
set up for us to succeed. We're at like my home course. We're in New York. A lot of
stoolies. Like now we're going across the fucking North American continent. Well, not only that
is, but it's when like the first time you do something, you're just, you're just sort of
wandering around and anything that happens, you have no expectations, right? Like we're
just like, if any, if we get anything, that's going to be what we wanted to happen. And now
we're headed to the U.S. Open after killing it to the PJ Championship. And there are our expectations.
People are like, it was so good the first time. Now, we're going to be able to, now.
let's see if they can do it again.
And, you know, luckily we had the biggest day in the history of the show.
Monday.
Monday, just first day, Monday.
We're still three days away from the beginning of the tournament.
Pebble Beach, the venue, as we've touched on a little bit.
We were out here a couple weeks ago and played the course, got our asses kicked.
But it's Pebble Beach.
It's as iconic as it gets.
I think this is the sixth U.S. Open that will be held at Pebble.
Tiger Woods won here by 15 shots in the year 2000.
Jacks won here.
Tom Watson chipped in on 17 to win here.
Just it's Pebble Beach.
Everybody knows everything about Pebble Beach.
It's as gorgeous, spectacular venue as it gets in the world for any sporting event.
Today was like 70, I don't know, 80 something degrees.
It was actually pretty hot today.
It was hot today.
Yeah.
Sunny, very little wind.
It was a spectacular day at Pebble Beach.
You guys, before I even got here, because I was in St. Louis last night before game six, which did not go our way.
Didn't go great.
Did not go great at all.
We still have a game seven.
That's coming up, which is going better than how the ice.
Islanders. Well, I knew that I was coming.
I'm just, we're not talking about the Islanders.
Last night did not go great if you were a blues fan.
It didn't go great.
That's a fact.
So I got great for a fucking Carolina hurricanes either.
No, it didn't.
They got swept by the team that's.
And then we stopped the penguin.
Who also traded Ryan,
if we're going to throw a lot of people under the bus, like,
oh, you're bringing Whitney.
Yeah, bro, Whitney in there.
Whitney will be here apparently Wednesday.
He's going to be here for game seven in time for that.
Whitney's going to be in the mix with us.
Oh, yeah.
We're doing radio with him.
We're doing this podcast probably with him.
He's going to be in the mix.
Doing probably the rundown with it might be?
Oh, yeah.
We're doing rundown.
We're going to be doing radio 4 to 6 p.m. Eastern, so Barstool Radio, we're going to be in charge of that.
And we're going to do the podcast.
So Whitney's going to be here.
It's only Monday.
Okay, but you guys started off before I got here.
You ran into Bryson D. Shambo, I believe, was the first person you guys ran into.
Yep.
Just like at the PGA championship, first person we ran into, we walked onto the driving range.
Essentially in the same spot we did at Beth Page, like right walking onto the driving range.
We run to Bryson.
He gives us that look like, oh, oh, man.
And, like, I think at this point when guys in our little inner circle now,
see us, they know it's a major championship.
Like, that's his first notice that he's at a major is when he's, like,
these fucking guys are back.
Like, he can play in all his RBC tournaments and all these other fucking tournaments,
like, you know, the John Deere classics of the world and all this shit.
You pause.
All those dog shit tournaments that just really don't mean.
You pause, and I gave you a look saying, don't do it.
We've had a great day.
We don't need negativity on the show.
He sees our face.
He knows it's a fucking major.
He's not at the John Deer Classic, which real quickly,
it's not about the John Deer Classic.
I heard some things about the John Deer Classic that I want to bring up on this very here podcast.
Are we doing it right now?
Just really quick.
Okay.
Triggs, did you know that the John Deer Classic isn't even in fucking Iowa?
It's in Illinois.
What the fuck is going on here, Trent?
The tournament that you claim isn't even in your own goddamn state?
It's in my part of the country.
It doesn't matter.
There's tournaments in New Jersey that I don't claim.
Beth Page is my tournament.
John, your classic is my tournament.
It's in Illinois.
It's in the Quad Cities.
We've been making jokes about Iowa this whole time.
It's not even in Iowa.
You let us make all these wisecracks about Iowa?
It's not even in Iowa.
I still claim the tournament.
I still love the tournament.
God, we don't have to get too much into it.
I also had a Uber driver that grew up in Iowa.
He says it stands for idiots only wandering around.
Idiots out walking around.
Idiots out walking around.
It's a beautiful place.
You guys are very mean to my home state.
Someone could say that.
and then put it over footage of Trent chasing his golf ball around,
like Bethpage Black.
I don't like the direction that this podcast can went.
It would be a real shame if somebody did that.
Just to put a little bow tie on this.
When Bryson sees our faces.
That's your new little phrase.
You keep saying put a bow tie on this.
It's just physically.
Like, I like to have imagery when I speak.
It's just like the way I speak.
I speak a little bow tie.
I like to think of it like to tie a bow on it.
Physically taking the words that I just said, taking a.
nice red bow wrapping it softly around all the words and then tying it nicely and tight.
You say that during the kids interview too.
I say bow tie a lot.
Yeah, you like that one.
Anyway, Mr.
Bowtie.
Just a little tie it up.
When he sees our faces,
he sees those bad guys walking on the driving range,
he's like, holy fuck, it's time.
Because he gave us that look, Bryson.
Yeah.
Where he looked up at the sky and came over, chuckling.
He's like, my guys.
And me and Bryson, we've had a roller coaster of a relationship.
I used to trash the shit out of him on this very podcast.
But I think I'm best friends of them now.
He's just such a cool dude.
Bryson is great.
He is the nicest guy.
We've all come full circle on him, I believe.
At one point, all of us were pretty much, we weren't sold.
He was getting a lot of commercial time.
We weren't sold.
We thought it was maybe a schick.
It was annoying.
It was undeserved now that we've gotten to know him many, many different times that we've run into him,
encountered them from calling into the podcast and roasting Frankie to giving Frankie chipping lessons
and being incredibly sincere while doing it to just running into us this week.
I mean, we ran into him today twice.
Second time he was listening to some trance stuff on his phone.
He said trance meditation, I thought.
And then it was just Kygo.
Yeah, you know, the second meeting was more of that roller coaster.
It was like there was a ton of ups when we first met him.
and he's talking us about like planet Cyprus and all this stuff.
He says he's going to invite us on Cyprus, all this shit.
And then all the way down is when we noticed that he's an Android user on his phone.
He's listening to like transmeditation, all this weird shit.
We're like, because if you see pictures of Bryson during his practice rounds,
he's got these fucking headphones in.
They're like these little black circles in his earlobes.
It's like, what the fuck you doing out there, Bryson, with these headphones on?
I said that to him.
I go, what's with the Bluetooth?
What is that?
It looks like a nightclub.
manager.
Or he looked at a nickel manager like one of these like volunteers that like stand
there and like check your fucking badges.
So anyways,
a couple interactions with,
with Bryson.
Then we had a great meeting with Justin Thomas.
We of course,
last year we were very hard on JT at times for certain incidents.
Although we very much respected him,
a Ryder Cup.
He was dominant in the Ryder Cup.
Two years ago, we had an unbelievable season.
So we respected JT.
But we were hard on about some of the on and off course stuff.
Had him on the show.
January 1st.
I think it was the first or second,
basically the first day of the year that we were back at work.
We had JT on the show.
For a full hour he called in,
he gave us his time.
He answered any and all questions we had
from some of the stuff we were ragging on him pretty good,
all the way down to when we were kind of busting his balls
about the happy game day, you guys,
and he had a great answer for that.
Saying go in from like 350 with a three wood,
he had a great story for that.
So he was great.
But we hadn't seen him since then.
He was out during the PGA with a wrist injury,
ran into him on the range
put a video out of us chit-chatting
with him for a good minute and a half couple minutes
we dap the shit of him i'm just like i kind of just
scroll by it on my twitter and it was a hell
of a fucking dapp up it was like uh boys
hadn't seen each other in 15 years
we went we went full hand and we brought it in i know
anyone everyone's been chirping the shit out of me
recently i thought you were only doing cali daps
well i'm sorry that we
fucking met uh bryson justin thomas
and tiger woods and i didn't have the fucking like
mental fortitude to calli dapp him
because I'm not that really upset about that
I am upset about it because everyone's like oh
I thought you were going to cally dapp and cali well I'm
still working on it's Monday have you calli dapped anybody
we've been calli dapping all day I've been calli dapping
all day I've been calli dapped these two cali teens
oh yeah these two like surfer bro teens that were huge
four play guys like Frankie I'm like what up
quick clean slick calli dab I'm like
did you guys from cali did you guys just did it because of the pod they're like
no bro that shit was fucking that shit was local
I'm like oh fuck
You're so weird sometimes.
That shit was local, boy.
Because I was there and they didn't say that.
And you just made it so much weirder.
They didn't say any of that.
Why do you keep lying?
JT called you out for a line.
You lied to JT.
You lied about what day you got to bellow.
JT's like, so when do you all get here?
I was like, I got here today.
I was like, no, no, you didn't.
You gave me a look.
I was like, yeah, JT, I got here today.
And you gave me a look.
I'm like, you know what, Trent's about to call me out on this bullshit.
I was like, you know what, JT, I actually lied to you.
We got here last night.
I have no idea why I said today.
I consciously lied.
I knew we got there last night.
To the point, he took to Twitter to comment on...
Because I wrote on Twitter, I put out the video.
It's on my Twitter, and it's also on the four-play Twitter.
I said, I don't know why I lied to Justin Thomas about when we got to Pebble.
And he responded, the confidence you said today with two, he just made it.
Was that you?
Have a good day, buddy.
You're gone.
Such a good tweet.
Good callback by him.
Oh, unbelievable callback.
They have that type of just fucking confidence to be like, you know what?
I know that everyone knows me about this moment.
I know that I'm always going to hear that chirp.
You're gone, buddy.
And he just tweets it at us.
It's unbelievable.
So, so self-aware.
Yep.
So great little catch up with JT.
We're going to see a lot more from him of him this week.
We also had, we ran into Pat and Kazair.
We ran into Stu Hagastod, who was the low.
at the Masters a couple years ago.
Great, dude.
I've got some mutual buddies with him.
So I chit-chat with him quite a bit here and there.
He's a fucking awesome guy.
He qualified for the U.S. Open, so everybody should be rooting for him.
We ran into him, caught up with him for a few minutes.
He had a lot of great points, basically saying, look, the U.S.
Overt's supposed to be hard.
I love the way the U.S.GA sets it up.
I love the fact that it's really difficult, that it's always been really difficult,
hugely positive about the U.S.J.
And they're set up and all that.
We love to, so it should be root for him, ran into Matt Parsy,
Giacalli, uh, Brockton firefighter from mass, low amorty tied for low amateur last year at the
US Open.
A lot more of a Boston accent that I remember the first time.
Where the hell that thing come from?
Really?
Oh my God.
We had him on radio at Shinnecock and talked to him for 20, 25 minutes.
Didn't think I noticed it.
And then today it was there.
It was really there.
Today was like the car, the guys are at the car and they're coming down.
I was like, Jesus, this guy's from fucking Brockton or some shit.
He is from Brockton.
He is from Brockton.
It's not some shit.
He is.
Yeah, that's where you call out.
No, I think he just said Brockton.
I literally just said.
He's a Brockton firefire.
And you were thinking like, you were, I don't know what the deep, what a deep Boston accent town is.
But it's, that's what you were trying to think of.
I'm thinking of, uh, Dorsuch in the town.
Dorchester.
Dorchester.
Dorchester.
Dorchester.
Dorchester.
Dorchester.
Dochester.
Dorchester, dude.
I don't just sound like Grinley.
Love y'all stuff.
Love y'all stuff.
Oh, that's also a new thing for.
from our four playlists.
And it was butter and eyes every time we hear when we're walking down the golf course.
And now I love y'all stuff.
And it's so smooth.
And it's so nice.
It's kind of peaceful.
I do like when people say it to us.
Ran into Pat and Gassier, who he was inside the ropes with kids in the practice round at the PGA.
So we got to, we caught up with him there.
He was on this show like a year ago, a year and a half ago.
Ran into him.
So we just ran into a bunch of people.
I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple folks because it was a hectic day.
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He's played well at Pebble Beach before.
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half of the day uh and there's a lot that went into this folks have i'm sure seen the video it's got
millions of views already we haven't even gone to sleep yet tiger woods so it's a great story
how this came to be.
You've all heard the first real core of the story,
which is a couple interactions we've had with Joe Likava,
a couple interactions we've had with Robbie Mac.
Appreciate you guys taking care of the boss man.
All that stuff of us really going above and beyond,
doing anything and everything we can,
whether it was at Bethpage, whether it was last fall,
whenever we got a chance to meet up with Joe La Cava or Robbie Mac or whoever,
and just put our best foot forward, show that we're there, we're always around.
Show that we're normal dudes that, like, they can, like, shoot the shit with and, like,
that we're not always, like, we're thinking about the guys who help the boss man as well,
not just the boss man.
Always defending the boss man on the blog, defending him on Twitter,
defending him on the rundown, on radio, on this very podcast, because he's our guy.
Tiger Woods is our guy.
We defended him against some potential trolling or slurs from Jack Nicholas that we have.
witnessed over the last game some mind games I think's probably the best way to
spend those off and we know that he can't be a mouthpiece for that the boss man
the people around him so we are that mouthpiece correct and just really taking
care of the boss man and making sure that we did all that well this afternoon you
know we have a beautiful booth right where the booth boys people know that we got a
beautiful booth overlooks the fucking what is it silver stillwater stillwater
cove okay that's what it is stillwater co the ocean well it's a cove
God.
I mean, it is the same water that's in the ocean, but it's a cove.
Yep. Pacific.
Yeah, Pacific Ocean.
Frankie wishes he didn't say that.
Nope.
He's like, he's just like, oh boy.
I wish I didn't.
Well, it's late.
It's been a long couple days.
So, so long story short, you know, we got this, we got the booth down there by the water.
We were going to meet down there on the way down there.
There's this practice screen that's not, not in the, by the main range.
It's kind of down by the first T.
and at like 4.15, 4.30 in the evening,
you guys text me, like, we just found Tiger Woods alone on the practice.
Yeah, we went and grabbed something to eat from the media center,
and you would gone down to the booth because you hadn't been down there yet,
and we decided.
I think actually we should confess to something here.
Okay.
We told Riggs to go down to the booth and we'll meet you there in 10 minutes.
All right, this is at 305, 310.
Me and Trent, we wander up to the media center.
and we're like, you know what, let's go.
Trends just slowly smirk at me.
We're like, let's go to their little restaurant area
and see what they have in there.
Maybe we'll grab an ice cream sandwich
or maybe we'll grab an ice cold.
There is a freezer full of ice cream.
Yeah, brand new, hog and dais.
Unbelievable.
I've had three already.
Unreal.
And we're like, you know, let's go check it out.
We walk in, the place is empty.
Not one person in this fucking restaurant.
I'm like, what is going on right now?
Why is no one in this media dining?
You mean the media dining?
Media dining.
It's not a restaurant.
Why are you called a restaurant?
It's media dining.
It's like a cafeteria.
Proceed.
You are right.
You're both right.
Yeah, I mean.
Well, I'm right.
No, you're right.
Yeah, you're not.
He's not right.
Can you get it?
Can you, is there a buffet at a restaurant?
That's, that's not the same.
Nobody has that.
I think there's a word restaurant on it.
It says media dining.
It says media dining on top of it.
So we're in the media dining and we walk around.
It's fucking empty.
We're looking around.
We're like, oh, fuck.
Like, what are we going to do?
The lady in there says that there's no food until 4 o'clock.
And me and Trent looked at each other.
And we said,
Now, what are we going to fucking do?
Because we're so hungry.
Riggs is waiting down by the fucking booth.
And we have 50 minutes to kill.
So we sat there and waited.
We waited.
And we waited for chips and dip.
That's all we waited for.
Chips, guac.
Gwack, salsa, and artichoke dip.
Yes.
And we're going to make Riggs wait down there.
You know they sell food on the course.
We just got in a burger or something.
We waited for 50 minutes while you stood there.
You know how this story ends.
So you should be happy to wait.
This is why I'm saying it.
This is the only reason why we're going to.
why I bring it up.
I got to tell you know what I was doing?
What were you doing?
So I walked out by the 18th green.
I was just kind of soaking things up.
Here comes that psychopath John Rob, playing 18.
I just stood right there alone.
Well, he came in, played 18 with a couple of other guys.
He was chipping hitting great chip shots.
Walked right by me, and part of me thought, like, he might say something to me.
Did he?
No.
Oh, Jesus.
But then, lucky.
As I'm standing there on 18, beautiful evening, no group's coming there on like the T.
So you got a good 15, 20 minutes before that group comes through.
get a call for my dad.
So I took a nice call for my father and just standing right over there looking over the cove on the phone with my pops for a few minutes.
That's nice.
So this makes you feel a little better.
So it worked out fine.
Because this whole time, I'm like, well, Riggs is just sitting there pacing, waiting for us for over an hour now while we're eating fucking chips and dip.
I thought I had great patience.
You did have great patience.
And the reason why I bring this up and I wasn't afraid to say it is because we're like, all right, I think we've waited way more than enough time.
and we should start fucking getting down to that little area by rigs.
We got to go to the golf course to go see Kisner's something.
We got to go do something.
We start walking down this weird path.
We're walking down all these like dirt roads.
We tried to take a shortcut to meet you.
And it ended up just dropping us off at this putting green.
And I stopped walking.
I didn't even tell Trent what I saw.
I literally stopped walking.
He goes, what the fuck's going on?
I'm like, Tiger Woods is alone on the putting green.
He's like, what?
I'm like straight ahead.
And we looked straight ahead.
And there was Tiger Woods just.
putting with three golf balls. He had his
little tea alignment thing that he always does
and no one else was with him. Not one
other golfer was on the putting green.
Not Joe Lakava was to be seen.
Not Robbie Mack was to be seen. No one.
Not one bag was to be seen.
So now that we've been to a couple of these tournaments, when
Tiger is on the putting green or
he's at the driving range, there's always a couple
of components that are there. It's either
Robbie Mac is there, Joe Lakov is there
or the bag is there. It's some
combination of those three, and usually it's all
three of those things. There were none of
those things on the putting green it was a stunning stunning and it was like not that big of a gallery
around it was like maybe one line of people just around the fence just watching tiger casually hit
putts yeah and he was listening to music in his headphones and he was just like he didn't give a
fuck it looked as though like he walked outside his front door and we're just like I'm just going to
put a couple balls I'm not going to tell anyone about it and I'm just going to do it yep so you guys
text me this you're like tigers alone on the putting green it's majestic and like what are you talking
about tigers while in the practice game what does it what does that even mean you just said he left we thought
he had left two hours ago we had heard somebody had there the rumblings were that he was like he played uh played
played nine he's done for the day i'm like all right so i buzz up meet you guys in the practice
cream tiger at this point one or two other people had sort of congregated tiger's there he's got his
red shoes on like the back of the shoes are red what are they called Nike prestos Nike prestos
these things are fucking never seen him wear but they're cool been watching him for decades now
never seen him wear footwear like that he's
He's got those on.
He's got headphones in.
I even knowing after getting text from you guys that he was there, I see him from across the other side of the green, I'm like, where's Tiger?
I don't see Tiger on the green because he looks so unlike he ever looks.
Usually as an entourage, there's nobody around.
I start to meander over there.
JT is in the middle of the green.
The JT was now on the green.
Tiger's there.
And there's one other person on the green.
I can't remember who it was.
And that's it.
It's a pretty big green, pretty big crowd starting to form.
But it's just those guys now Tiger and J.T are starting to mix it up.
They're starting to kind of get in.
Tigers grabbing everybody's putter.
He's grabbing JT's putter, hitting putts with it.
He's chit-chat, and he goes over and tells JT at one point, I believe.
Like, bro, you're lined up so far left.
He's like, you're lined up crazy left.
Like, kind of like chirping JT.
They pass each other's putters back and forth again.
Next thing, you know, out of the clouds here comes Joey.
Yep.
Joey comes like just, again, like out of the trees.
Joey just appears.
Joey actually walked right across us, and I, like, locked eyes with him.
And he looked at me and gave me like that head nod, like, what's up, buddy?
And I just pointed my water bottle of him, like, Joey.
And I texted you because you're on this out of the green.
I'm like, I just got a what up buddy from Joey.
And at that moment, I felt like something was brewing.
Like, this is like, this putting green is, is.
It was the shoes to me.
The shoes, everything just felt so unt Tiger-like.
Relax.
Relax.
Producer, big giggled at that.
But it was when I saw those shoes, something was up.
When Tiger Woods is wearing his normal, like, everything that he does, like his, I'm going to fuck this golf course up on a Sunday outfit, he's unapproachable.
He's not a human being.
Right.
He's inhumane.
But when he's rocking those shoes and he's, he's listening to music and Joey's like saying what up.
And he's mixing up with J.T.
The vibes were very different today.
So you, Frankie, you texted at 432, you said things are happening.
And that was right after the Joey.
a little what's up buddy so things did things started to happen there's a casual relaxed vibe
probably another 45 minutes go by where eventually Robbie mac rolls out we're just hanging
we're right there at that point we're the only media there we got these bright fucking orange
usGA inside the ropes lanyards on that you cannot miss there's one there's a there's a foot
or two of rough and that's all that you stand on we're basically on the green it's very tight
so we're right there you just can't miss us no it's just we're three idiots jakes with us
So there's like four of us.
We're a whole little pop.
You look ridiculous.
Just there, right in your face.
And eventually, after maybe 45 minutes an hour,
Robbie Mack, who's been there now for a good 20, 30 minutes, something like that.
He, of course, had the whole thanks.
We appreciate you.
Always taking care of the boss, man.
Give you guys the golf balls at Beth Page.
You know, I've met him a couple times when I had the whole Vegas thing and all that.
He walked right up to us and introduced and said, hey, and legit looked like,
right at Frankie and said Frankie looked right at Trent said Trent looked right at me and said
rigs he said to me he's like Frankie you're way too nice for giving up that golf ball he's like laughing
he's like you're just too nice of a guy buddy I'm like I know I had to do he's like yeah you did like
giving me like a joke like he knew everything that we've been doing I reminded about how we called
him a tiger woods horrocks meaning that you can't kill tiger woods until you kill all the
other horrocks is which from harry potter and that Robbie mac is one uh the scotty cameron
is one green jacket is one um Steve willie willie
Williams is one that he had in Australia.
So we kind of, we chit-chatted with Robbie Mac about that.
He was dying laughing.
And we just kind of, we just kind of shot the shit with him for a few minutes.
It was a great little chat.
And then he, you know, he again, he said, all right, fellas, like, we'll see you around this week.
You know, thanks again for everything.
It's great to see you guys.
And then he just walked five feet behind him to Tiger.
And then him and Tiger and Joey and doing all that.
And then, I don't know, five or ten minutes later, Joe Likava comes over.
Yep.
And again, same deal.
I'm like, Joe, what's up?
We talked about how we met his son, Joe Jr. at the PGA, who's a great kid.
And we, next thing, you know, like Brad Faxson walks over.
So now it's like us, Joe Likava, Brad Faxon, we're talking for like 15 or 20 minutes.
We chatted with Joe Likava forever.
We were like best friends.
And he is the nicest guy on the planet.
He's talking about getting the chipping lessons from Bryson.
Yeah.
We're talking about the giants.
Talking about the giants.
Sequin Barclay.
Yeah, he's just like.
and he knew, I think his son's a huge fan.
He knew a lot.
He knew so much about the, about the podcast and, like, what we do.
And, like, us as, like, he just knew how much.
He just knows us.
Like, you know, talking to him felt like I was talking to someone that I've known for 30 years, Joe Likava.
It's just like, he knew what we do.
Some lady came over and asked him to autograph her head.
And he was like, I'm just a catty.
You know, you got the wrong guy.
I'm just a cat.
It was in that moment that I wanted to grab him and be like, you're Tiger Woods is catty.
That's a very different thing.
Like you're maybe the second most important signature at the golf course.
She's like, no, I know you're just a caddy, but you're, you're Tiger Woods.
He's like, no, no, here's a golf ball from Tiger Woods.
But he goes, let's not get crazy people.
He kept saying that.
He kept saying that.
He goes, let's not get crazy.
Yeah, he does not forget, like, I'm just a caddy.
He did say that.
He did say that.
He did not get fucking nuts here.
So incredibly humble guy.
And again, once you talk to Joey for maybe 15 seconds, you realize, like, he is just
the most normal guy.
He's talking about pizza.
He's like, which one of you guys goes to Roseland, a pizza.
I'm like me.
He's like, that's my spot.
Like we're just talking about pizza, our favorite pizza places.
It was incredible.
We're very comfortable at this point.
I think I was standing on the green at that point.
Just in the middle of the green.
We're chatting.
And eventually he goes, all right, I've got to go act like I'm doing something.
And walks back over and meets up a tag.
Tiger at this whole time had hit a thousand puts.
This is legit going on two straight hours of Tiger grinding on the practice green
with basically no one else around golf wise at Pebble Beach on Monday before the USO.
Yeah, because at that moment, we were while we were talking to Joey, because we did talk to him for quite a long time.
We talked about the Giants, we talked about all those things.
And at that, in those moments, we're waiting for Tiger to get done putting while we're talking to Joey, because then we're thinking Tiger has to walk over to Joey and talk to him.
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Like, dude, we've already had two interactions now in a row with Tiger's guys.
There's no one else in his crew.
he may just be like, all right, I got to go talk to these guys,
and maybe he recognizes his rigs or something.
Like, he has to come over here.
Maybe if he gets done putting, he'll stroll on over here while Joey's here,
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Like, I'll see it.
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And then it got to a point finally after forever.
And we were like, man, I hope he stops putting sometimes
so that we like have a chance to have a moment here.
He does, you can tell.
He starts, he was very cocky too.
He's like flipping his balls to Joey.
he kind of like he starts to he's wrapping up his session it's very obvious to toss two balls to those kids
oh yeah toss a couple balls to some kids so he's wrapping up and we you know now at this point we're
starting to like really get into some a serious formation over here of like something might be
happening something might be happening joey and tiger uh are together tiger starts to walk a few
feet away from joey joey with the most heroic move of all time grabs tiger's attention points
right over to us and goes hey like these are your guys over here like we couldn't hear exactly
I'm not exactly what he said, but it was something along the line.
Those are your guys.
These are our guys over here.
Pointed right over at us.
Tiger looked, immediately recognized, walked right at us.
It's insane.
I walked right out towards him.
He said something like muttered like, Rick, so that I gave like, hey, Tiger, great to see you again.
Or no, I think I said, sup, Tiger.
Yeah.
That's what I said.
Introduces himself to you guys for the first time.
Purest handshake I've ever had in my entire life.
Eyeballs right into each other's pupils, just locking each other's eyes.
as if like we couldn't lock off like it was just the most pure handshake a man could give
another man absolutely firm handshake stares you right in the eye we all introduced ourselves
i then in a in a move that looking back i'm stunned i did but i slapped tiger on the shoulder
or the arm and said congrats on one of the masters and then he like bro slapped me back in the
chest and was like how about that shit huh it was done
You just know he loves that move.
Like, I don't know how you pulled it out of you.
I don't know what happened.
Oh, I don't either.
But you know him slapping you on the chest.
He's being like, because we always hear, like, he likes to be one of the guys.
And that interaction right there, that's being one of the guys.
Think about what we did when Tiger Woods won the Masters.
We were running around, crying, pissing our pants.
Like, we couldn't fucking believe this guy won the Masters.
We live and die by this guy.
And you slapped him, that person, that mythical creature, that guy that we never thought was going to golf again in front of our eyes.
Well, like, people in the world didn't think we was going to do this again.
We always thought it.
But, we, like, there's that moment where it's like, this guy's not real, and he's never going to do it.
And he did it.
And now you're talking to him saying, how about that fucking masters that we just went crazy about?
And he's like, yeah, how about that shit, huh?
Like, what world are we living in?
We talked a couple weeks ago about how, like, it's amazing we got to watch him perform in front of our eyes.
And now we're talking to him about the thing that he performed.
I mean, who the fuck am I that I just hit him?
Like, why did I touch Tiger?
What part of me thought I could just touch Tiger?
In what world are you living in rigs that you think that you can touch this fucking mythical creature?
What was that?
Be like, hey, nice fucking job with the mess.
Like, luckily he's the man and was like, yeah, how about that shit?
I dominated.
I just slapped him and then he just slapped him.
What if he fucking caught your hand and was like, nope?
And just, and just like squeezed your fucking fingers together.
It was like, you don't touch me.
just broke my forearm in half and then just continued talking to you guys i mean he absolutely could
have done that i don't know what i that move my brain didn't come up with that it just was instinctual
he's he hit me back we chatted i went full chris farley mode and just said that was awesome that was
i was like you did when you won that master man that was because you know what trit it was
it was fucking it was i wanted to tell him to his face how awesome i thought that was and i did that's
amazing i did that was awesome you said that was awesome you said
Awesome.
And then Trent had probably the best moment of the entire conversation, which is when Tiger
asked the question and he directed it directly at Trent for some reason.
And he said, so where are you guys stationed?
And Trent just looked at him.
What? And said, oh.
I did.
And that was what you came up with.
I couldn't muster anything else.
Like you said, he looked me right in the eyes.
And he said, so where are you guys stationed?
And at that point, I just lost all consciousness.
I just didn't know what he meant
I didn't know if he meant where
Is that meaning tiger station where
Where is I didn't know if he meant where is Barstall HQ
Where are you guys at this week
Or I don't know what is your house
Where's your house where's your house
He said station and it just
So where you got station?
And he starts looking around
Like as if it's gonna pop up like um
And I just couldn't muster anything
Luckily rigs came to your fucking
He saved the day for me
Where are you guys stationed will be on your tombstone
I think so.
I think so, too.
I'm going to be stationed.
If he asked me that right now, I think I would react the exact same way.
Do you still know where we're stationed?
I don't know where we're stationed.
I don't have a clue.
What a bizarre thing to ask.
I'm glad that this, well, two things.
One, I'm glad that it was, he didn't ask me something normal and I reacted that way.
I can at least think in my head that he asked a question in a strange way.
It's such a strange thing.
And if he had said, I wonder what you would have said if he would have said to you, like, hey, Trent, what colors is grass?
Yeah.
Would you have a good like.
I think you would have been like, well, why the fuck's he asking me if he obviously knows.
So maybe...
And two...
Maybe it's not green.
I'm almost glad I did react that way because I feel like that's how I should react.
Yes.
When I'm talking to Tiger Woods, this is the first time I've met him.
I'm meeting him for the first time.
He's looking at me in the eye.
If I was cool, calm, and collected, I don't think that would be a genuine reaction.
Someone wrote to me on the internet, act like you've been there before.
Are you fucking kidding?
Are you fucking kidding?
Are you fucking kidding me?
act like I've been there before?
Where have I been in that user?
You think I've been in the fucking
eyesight of Tiger Woods?
Right. Where have you been?
So if he says where are you stationed?
I'm like, we're stationed right down by 18.
If I had reacted like that, I don't think it would have been as genuine.
I didn't think that.
Having my brain turned to complete and utter mush
because I'm talking to one of the greatest athletes of all time,
I think that's the right reaction.
Tiger Woods, you don't act.
that you've been there before with Tiger Woods
because you've never been there before.
Every meeting with Tiger Woods is like
the greatest thing that's ever happened to anyone.
Right. So like to ask, I
froze up like a fucking,
I don't even know. I was, I was
stone looking at Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods
looked at me and I turned into stone.
And Frankie, you had a great moment
at the end where
we, you know, Tiger Woods very clearly
said, we were like, oh yeah, what are you up to?
Kind of a little small talk. Basketball time.
He's like, it's tip off time.
get ready to tip off.
We're like, oh, what do you got?
He's like, not my Lakers.
We belly laughed our dicks off.
Hardest who ever laughed at the entire lives.
So you guys were riffing with them.
You said the master's thing.
Trent's brain broke,
which also broke my brain because I looked to the right.
I had two things I said.
Oh, we talked about Dave.
I said, I did the fake phone call about Dave.
And then I said, oh, you're really grinding out here with the putting.
And I felt like I made it come back there.
And he like, yeah.
He's like, yeah, I've been out here.
Yeah, I've been out here.
And I remember my, I was like, I got to get something in.
here and I tried to voice who you got tonight in basketball and I just didn't have anything behind it.
I didn't. I had nothing behind it. I took it from you. And you took it from me. You heard me.
Because I knew you didn't because I knew he didn't hear you. Dude, I'm telling you, I've never been so
nervous in my life. I've never been so starstruck and I've never been so choked. Like I was so choked.
Like my my my my whole body turned numb and I was like, who do you got tonight? And turns like, who do you
got tonight in the game and he's like oh not my
Lakers and I'm like okay you got you got you got
you got the question I'm like okay we got it
because I heard you say that and he almost like
he kind of turned out a little bit and then I
I gave it back because I was like we got to get
you guys were rolling right I was just
after the month after my brain turned to mush
I got a couple questions in there yeah a nice recovery
where I felt like the recovery was going well although
I will say when he said the first time he said now it's
basketball I in my head I thought he was going to play basketball
glad I didn't say anything yeah wow that would have been like
Where are your sneakers?
Where's the hoop?
Where do you guys play?
Where's your, where's your hoop station?
So I'm glad I didn't, but then, yeah, I took Frankie.
And then Frankie had what some people was their favorite part of the whole thing,
which was that after he, we said goodbye.
And he turned around and was not facing us.
There's just a screenshot of you just waving goodbye to Tiger Woods.
I don't even, I didn't even know that was on camera at that point.
I was staring at Tiger.
walked away and I'm just like, oh my God, what just happened?
Like the fact that we got away from that interaction, we did it and we got away from it
without making complete and total asses of ourselves is such a huge win.
I can't tell people enough how genuine the handshake was.
And I think that's what made us feel so fucking calm.
Like he came over immediately, was so assertive like he's going to talk to us.
Like he's the one approaching us and like reach.
his hand out to all of us like I'm gonna fucking talk to you guys and he was great too
to you rigs I'm gonna talk to you Frank yeah I'm here for smile you laugh him yeah he was great too
because you slapped him on the arm about the master's right back and then we like the next couple
things that we said were about Dave taking a fake phone call which he knows nothing about yeah but he
laughed it off he was like that's great he was like that's great so he like he did he's a intimidating
person but he made us feel very comfortable in that moment crazy to look him in the eyes man like
I'll never forget that.
I'll never forget the view.
I mean, I'm sure that, like, this Tiger Woods story and Foreplay story is not even close to being over.
It's actually just started.
Right.
I think.
And it's just, I don't think I'll ever get used to looking at Tiger Woods like that.
We felt that way when we met Spief.
We did.
At Beth Page.
But Spieth, I, like, Spith, I can, like, turn my brain into thinking like he's one of my buddies.
No, you're right.
But just think about that's how, like, crazy it is.
When we looked at Spieth, we said to ourselves, we talked afterwards where it was like, I'm looking at Jordan Spieth.
He's extremely accomplished golfer
And then, but then it happens a million
Full of a tiger
It's so much different
It's way different
It was staring at every little part of his face
It sounds so fucking weird to say stuff like that
But like anyone in the situation
Would do the same like you're looking at every part of him
And you're like this guy's real right now
It's Tiger Woods
This is not looking at him through YouTube
Or fucking like all these amazing fucking videos
Of him winning the masters
And being the best golfer of our generation
Of all time
Shout out Jack
That was fucking I
I'm not gonna get into Jack
right now. We're not here to talk about Jack. We're not here to talk about
Jack. There's a lot of Jack fans that don't
like me right now. We're not here to talk about them. No, we're not.
But you're looking at this guy in person and you have to, like
you said, you have to remind yourself, this is fucking real.
And it was. He was holding a Scott. He was
holding Scotty. He was
dangling it. Early on. Early on
in the thing, he flips it upside down and then just
like cleans the face of Scotty and then flips it back
while he's just talking to us.
It's just an inch of way.
well I'm like slapping them on the back.
It's so crazy, man.
It's fucking crazy town.
Tiger fucking Woods.
Someone wrote to me,
uh,
Tiger Woods.
I can't believe the same podcast that talks about like Frankie hitting the wrong
hole at a retirement facility in Boca Raton, Florida.
Like not even a year later now.
And like the people that fucking talk about the John Deere classic and all these fucking
golf,
these golf,
these golf fucking stories and all these,
us just shooting the shit.
Now was talking to Tiger Woods and touching.
and touching him and being like,
we're in your fucking grill mix,
and he's right back in our grill mix.
He was great.
Just in the mix.
In the mix.
We said we'd say that.
Mix.
What a moment.
It was something we were all giddy.
You can see it on the video afterwards.
Shout to that cop who tried to play it real smooth.
Oh, yeah.
It was like, oh, now I recognize you.
You're a player, right?
It's just, no, not even close.
Shout out to Jake's camera work.
Crupted it.
Oh, Jake, who's sitting right here with us.
Just nailed it.
Because Tiger's a really.
Absolutely nailed it.
Tiger's a tricky one.
You don't know if he wants
to be, I mean, you would assume he just doesn't want to be on camera.
He never walks up to media and does that.
Like, you think fucking Tiger Woods isn't to see someone from Fox or one of these other companies
and just be like, hey, I'm going to come talk to you.
Like, no, he wants to run away from those people.
He wants to bury them.
Like, he hates that shit.
A hundred percent.
And he comes up to us, like, and like, it is a nerve-wracking moment where Jake's like,
oh, do I, like, stick it right in his face?
Do I want to get, is it getting the audio?
This is the biggest moment in Fortplay history.
That's a fucking nerve-wracking moment, but it fucking came out great.
He nailed it.
He absolutely nailed it.
He absolutely nailed it.
All the interactions.
Phenomenal.
Every word, every interaction, all the handshakes, the slaps of the back to the waves, to the cop.
All that stuff was captured.
So, shout to Jake Nailing that.
And we do all that with an iPhone.
That's just kind of our grassroots.
Our rogue operation is get right there with an iPhone.
It's a lot more intimate, I think.
It's a lot more kind of like.
It's like the viewer or anyone on Twitter or Instagram that's watching the video is like was essentially just like was there.
And there's just no way.
Jake's got a fucking mosquito just put it put his
Oh a spider
I don't like spiders
So Jake just got attacked by a spider
One of the crazier things I've ever seen
My entire life
I'm looking at the spider now
It's not very big
I don't know why he'd be that
It's actually not big
He's just freaked out
Like he's never seen a spider report
But also Tiger doesn't talk to us if we
Sometimes we do walk around with a big camera
And if that had been posted up right in his face
he'd probably just been like,
hey, it's good to see you guys, we'll see you later.
So everything worked out.
It was incredible.
We got a big week ahead of us still.
We got Kevin Kisner up next.
Kiz is the man, him and Dewey.
Chat and all about Kiz's team.
He's got his swing coach and his short game coach are in the room as a recording,
but they don't have microphones, so he's chirping them.
Dewey's chirping back at Kiz.
They're telling stories talking about Pebble.
Awesome.
Awesome interview is always big thank you to Kiz, Kevin Kisner,
and Dewey for their time, inviting us into their rental home.
We had a couple of beers while doing this.
Great chat, so enjoy this with Kevin Kisner.
We'll be back on Thursday for our second show of the week, live from Pebble Beach.
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We're live in somewhere near Pebble.
Are we in Pebble?
Are we in Pebble?
Monterey.
We're in Monterey.
Which, you know,
it's pretty damn close to Pebble,
so I probably should be able to guess that.
We're at Kevin Kisner's house.
We got Dewey and Kis Dewey is of course
Kiz's caddy with the best
By far the best calves on tour
Pretty famous for those calves actually Dewey
They're um yeah they've been worked out today
Yeah how they look
I mean they look good look like they're glistin because it's 15,000 degrees in here
You should go upstairs
It's hotter up there
You would think it's hot as fuck in this house
Your record and you know the millions of dollars that you've made on tour
Which you are very familiar with the
number that you'd be able to get a better place that has AC.
He has to pay me, though.
And these other clowns that are here.
And then y'all.
You got a whole crew.
I got to ask you, who all is in your crew?
There's like 10 people at your house.
JT.
Tim, they all try to tell me how to do stuff better, but I don't listen to them.
It is sometimes alarming that, like, we'll walk the driving range and we'll see these
guys, like, big, big name golfers, and all of a sudden you look at Kevin Kisner,
he's got a crew.
He's got a can't.
Because look at y'all.
You follow me around everywhere.
True.
You all are part of that crew.
Every time I turn around, you're like, kids, where are we going?
What are we doing next?
Kids, where are you holding on?
Chip here.
Let's go do this.
Kids, come here, yeah.
We like actually.
Exactly.
Everywhere you turn, we're just right there.
Because I'm fun.
Counds are not.
It's true.
I mean, that's just a fact.
But again, I don't think you need, it does look like you're running a fucking camp on the driving
range sometimes.
It takes a lot of people to make a 5, 10, 160 pound white boy play good.
in golf. Is that what it is? So what's ever, so what all the guys do? JT's my swing coach and life
coach and Tim's my other life coach and short game coach. They get yelled at a lot.
What's that like when they get yelled at by the boss man? What did they just tell me at dinner?
I have high expectations and he expects highly of all of us to.
That was how they put it. What is that? He says he's laughing. He's like they have high
expectations. He's cracking. And I come back with I'm 5, 10, 160 pounds.
I've played in 20 straight majors, so we got to have high expectations.
That's pretty good.
So the people were demanding that you come back on because you haven't technically been on the podcast since you won at the match play.
I know because y'all don't pay enough.
We don't pay anything.
I know.
That's not enough.
No, nothing.
We just say.
That's what I tell everybody in the crowd.
When you're going back on for play, I said when Prez starts paying me, I'll get on that.
Everything comes back to money with kids.
You are a constant topic on the show.
I think we talk about you every week.
Well, I'm at T-21.
You have to talk about that one still?
I can't do it anymore.
That was my favorite streak in the history of sports.
Did people yell at you a lot?
Non-stop.
About the streak?
No.
Every fucking thing else y'all talk about.
They yell at me.
Bar-stool this and bar-stool that.
The streak was money.
Were you aware of the streak?
I think I told Dewey, like...
We had pressure coming down at the RBC.
I think it was number 16.
He said we got to fucking make two more birdies
so we can skit in the top 20 somehow.
That's what I'm talking about.
On Sunday?
I think we did make two birdies,
but we had one boogie in there.
Rewened it.
Yeah, we ruined it.
I mean, you guys were on, again,
it was one of the great streaks, really,
in the history of sports.
I think it was like six or seven times in a row
that you finished T20 something.
And then you won.
That's what broke the streak is.
So we need to get back on the 20 straight.
I mean, listen.
Some people were upset that you want.
They're like, what?
Yeah, ruined it.
Really?
And 20-something.
So winning, what's like, what changed?
How come you're able to just win?
How come you go from Mr. T-20-something to I'm going to fucking win now?
Because they put us on match boys so I can make my usual three bogeys and eight birdies and beat people?
No, I have no idea why I won that week.
What about, like, do your life coaches and everything kick in and tell you, like, why you won that week?
No.
Do we raise his hand?
I think he said he's the reason.
Tell us, do he?
Um, I, no, I don't have an answer.
We got there Tuesday at 3.30 in the afternoon.
We played seven holes in a practice round and we teed off Wednesday morning and lost in one, one point seven five million dollars.
So you tell me how it worked.
I think, I think what happened.
That's why you got to come on this podcast more.
That's such a good answer.
What a dumb fucking tournament.
Yeah.
You win that thing.
I mean, how could they let me win that?
A bunch of bullshit that is.
It was funny today.
I play with Cooch and then.
Everybody left and it was Coochina, we had three holes left, and he yells across the fairly on 10,
and goes, let's play from here out, 20 a hole or something.
And JT.
up there goes, we've already seen this movie.
Yeah, no, I mean, he's been through the ringer with it a little bit.
So we kind of rolled in here, just checking out your digs.
You know, what's it, like, what's a normal week in terms of stocking up, gearing up, like, grocery?
What do you need?
This is when I really need my wife, not these guys.
My wife would have this place looking like Whole Foods Market in here.
The only thing I saw on the fridge was beer.
Exactly.
Here it is.
Frat House City over here.
That's all you rock with.
We got some bananas, probably.
Maybe some water.
I did see.
Our great close personal friends at the USGA will feed us all week, though.
I saw water and beer.
Those were the two things that I saw.
Is that not the essential?
No, that's very essential.
I was just curious.
U.S. Open, you have to really drink a lot at night to get over what you just went through.
So, USGA, who again is our close personal friend, we're big fans, very tight.
You last time, I believe, said that you had no chance to win a pebble because the USDA's running it.
No, I don't think I said no chance here.
I said it depends on what they screw up this time.
That's true.
I think you said, no chance of Beth Page, which I was 100% correct, as usual.
You were.
You shot like a million over par missed a cut.
So I think what you did say, you're right, you correct to me,
was you said, I really like Pebble if the USGA weren't setting it up.
That's right.
So what's the issues with the USDA setting it up?
You got a bunch of lawyers and doctors that think they're geniuses at golf.
And they just don't know, you don't.
We do this all week long on the PGA tour all year long.
We do this weekend and a week out.
They need to ask for others' opinions.
So who's?
The tour, the people that do this every week.
What are they doing that's different than you see on a regular week?
T's where they're trying to play from.
They're just making it almost unfair, brutal.
Right.
I mean, I understand it's the U.S. Open.
I'm not bitching about that.
It's supposed to be hard.
Right.
But we don't have to take it.
Like last year, it was just a joke.
I mean, you got to the arguably top five greatest player of all time hitting as ball while it's moving.
You got big issues.
Right.
Is that a move we're going to see from kids in the future?
I can see you doing that.
Doing what?
It's a frustrated ball.
ball moving you're just going to whack it now you have too much too much respect for the game no
I don't have that much respect for the game I just don't have enough energy to run after it
it's too much respect in fact and I don't think it would ever cross my mind to be honest I'd probably
just pick it up and put in my pocket he would tell me to go get it right boys it's it fucking
hot in here I mean that's I mean there's really no getting around that I'm gonna have to
take my well you are wearing a sweater and it's 85 out 85 out and 85 hit he doesn't
He doesn't show his skin.
No, I don't show much skin.
I got too fair skin and everything's just too like, you know, everything's too skinny too.
It's like, you know, I like to put on as much layers as I possibly can.
You got a nice facial hair, though.
All right.
I mean, that's a little bit of a.
I mean, it looks like it.
Mine did when I was 12.
Okay.
I mean, I knew that was coming.
I can't grow facial hair.
I just can't do it.
It's funny because you have no facial hair.
That's the joke.
Yeah, no.
That's the joke you're saying.
That's what it is.
How old are you?
Like 22?
25?
Or 25?
What would you guess?
I guess 22.
Yeah.
I mean, I still get ID.
When I was going to church, like with my mom, I used to get a question to take, like, the Eucharist up front.
You have to be, like, eight for that.
I remember I was, like, 14 once.
I looked down.
I'm like, you know, I've been doing this since I was, like, six years old.
They're like, yeah, you look like you're eight years old.
So I've been getting ID.
I've been getting ID for the past, I mean, my whole entire life.
I'm not aware of it.
Movie theaters can't go into a rated art movie.
You've been carrying that Eucharist thing with you for a while, haven't you?
You never once said that.
You can tell that what touches us.
I'm not kidding.
I think I was in high school.
I think I was like,
I was a senior in high school on like Christmas night.
And I went up there.
I'm like,
put my hand out and they're like,
are you allowed to have this?
I'm like, are you fucking kidding?
I'm like,
my eight-year-old cousin just.
Yeah.
I think I was like,
my eight-year-old cousin just took this.
I'm going straight to hell.
You've wanted to say that for a long time,
haven't you, Brachie?
He and Trent are also just sharing a mic here, so we're doing a little bit of a past...
So every time you guys...
That's because I'm high maintenance than Dewey, and we had to have our own mics.
Well, I think it's more important to see that as another one.
I think it's more important for Dewey to have a mic than me, for sure.
I mean, he's electric.
So you guys are going to be doing a lot of fade-ins.
There's a lot of fade-ins.
It's going to sell you're fading in every single time.
Yeah.
Kids, let's talk about your schedule.
Go for it.
Are you sick or something?
You're sick.
That's what happens when you have kids.
You just cough on you all the time.
I'm just sweat it out in this house.
This house might be.
good for you.
This house is not good for me.
Okay.
I'm going to contract.
But we're going to be freezing our balls off by Thursday, you know.
Yep.
Is that concerned you?
No.
That's what I don't pebble I know.
Today was freaking me out.
I didn't know what was going on out there.
Dewey and I were talking about how every time you guys play here in February,
the weather just stinks.
So bad.
We were getting, what was that, hell or sleet?
Yeah, on Sunday we had sleep walking down number nine.
I looked back at Dughey.
And he had the umbrella.
I'm back there just getting hammering my ears.
He's got his shoulders so scrunched.
up that is
I mean his shoulder blades are touching his
ears and I look back and it's so cold
and that hell is hitting off his ears
and he's like I said are you all right buddy
he goes my ears man my fucking ears
I'm gonna add that old video
it's the most priceless video
my ears man he's like what is wrong with you
I'm like you have the umbrella that's what's wrong
with me
uh it's priceless
so this
This is better.
Obviously, it was 70-something degrees today.
But you...
85.
It was 85 degrees today?
It definitely hit 80.
It was hot today.
I know it's 85 degrees.
You talked to a local here.
You'd think they're...
110.
You, in our world, pretty famously, just didn't show up to bed page
until Tuesday because it was like 48 degrees the day before.
So are you concerned that it's going to be cold and you're kind of a little bitch boy when it comes to cold?
No, really a bitch boy when it's cold and the golf course is 8,000 yards with stupid angles
and you can't hit a fair wave and you hit a 270.
Yes, well, bitch.
There's reasoning behind it.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, I hate the course before I came and 48 didn't make it much better.
I'm surprised you came.
Why'd you come?
I told doing the same thing on Thursday.
Same exact quote.
We were walking down, it was number seven.
He goes, why did I even come here this week?
So all I do is just make me play worse.
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Is part of you kind of at like your last straw with us?
Because whenever you do stuff with us, you haven't, you know, seems.
to go on and
No, I'm not superstitious
Okay, thank God
No, like what
Beth Page
I already told you
What was gonna happen
Before I went
Well, I wanted to reiterate
That to you
I still like that hoodie
Though,
That video is epic
I need to
That is a really good video
That hoodie
Do you always call Tiger
Tee Weezy?
All the time
He loves me
He loves me
What'd you say
You called him
The other day
Tee wee
Tee wee
I shortened it up
I don't know why
It just came out
I'm like
What up Teeee?
He's like
If it works
It works
It works.
You took your...
And the funny thing is, I don't know anyone in the world that calls him that.
And I do.
And then I went T-Wee, and then he still answered me.
Are you going to advance it to T?
If you call him T, I mean, that's...
Oh, I call him T all the time.
You call him T?
Yeah.
Yeah, he always comes up with dumb nicknames.
Yeah.
So we make fun of him.
Well, we said that, well, we actually met Taggerwood.
It's not a big deal.
We said if he ever was to approach you Trent, and he called you Trenti,
would you just accept that nickname?
Can we talk about Trent's...
I don't know when you're opposed.
in this, but Trent's video from today.
Oh, man.
Tiger's interaction today.
My brain.
Tiger froze Trent's brain.
Yes.
Can we just agree?
Can we all just agree?
Everybody in this room that's saying stationed is a weird word to use in that situation.
Tiger said to-
I told you he texts like he's a Navy SEAL.
You have to get used to it.
Yeah, you didn't tell us that until afterwards.
Oh, well, now you know.
What do you mean he texts like a Navy SEAL?
It's 10-4s and Rogers and.
All that.
I love that.
He's a machine.
Yeah, he's a machine.
He's a fucking machine.
So Tyre says, he says to us and he looks right to trip.
He goes, so where are you guys stationed?
And Trent just goes, uh, the face, though, dude.
You can't even make that face up.
I feel like I fell off a cliff.
I didn't know what I was doing.
I was caught in a wave.
I didn't know what was up or what was down.
You got to see this video of his face.
His face is like, I'm talking to Tiger Woods.
Yeah.
It was the, I think it was the first time in the conversation that he had directed
a question of me and I was like all right I'm ready let's do this and then he said stationed and I just
my brain went out the window I'm about to answer Tiger was fucking question looking at right
so ready for this question yeah I've been waiting my whole life for this so where you guys
station he says station was like and I was like it does he mean where we are headquartered as barster
sports where we are right now or where our booth is and in that time I just said uh
That was tough.
It was tough.
I'll tell you.
It was tough.
But it was great meeting, Tiger.
That is something, Trit Daddy.
I'm impressed.
Thank you.
So T. Weezy, I guess.
I'd never heard him call that before.
But you all right.
You became the star of that video.
When you came just sauntering across there, you sniffed that something, something was happening.
Something was going on.
No, when Frankie was telling me to get the fuck out of here.
We don't have time for you right now, kids.
That's all I remember.
We saw you know about you with your ridiculous hat, your little, what?
What would we call that?
What would we even call that thing?
Well, it looked like you'd never worn a winter hat in your entire life.
And we found that out the next day or in the practice round when you actually put it on correct.
You came out looking like a fucking Eskimo walking out of it.
It's all good, man.
That's what I like to do.
Keep people on edge.
They never know what to expect from me.
You're disguising the fact you didn't know how to wear a hat.
No, I'm just disguising the fact that I didn't want to be in a fucking long island.
It was 45.
All right.
Oh, okay.
All right.
You had a great meal.
No, I did.
I just meant when it was 45 degrees.
I'm out on that.
You know, the temperature really doesn't have much to do with the setting.
You know, it's just, it's a lot to do.
I heard how many times do you think we had to hear about fucking Borelli's?
Yeah, how was Borelli's?
How was Borelli?
You're going to Borelli's tonight, kids?
It was so irritating.
Pat Perez says, if I hear fucking Borelli's one more time, kids.
Because I don't even know what the fuck it is, but I'm what the fuck they're talking about.
I have no idea what the fuck that is.
Pepper's like, what the fuck is going on?
He's so mad.
What's the fucking Borrelli?
Pepo Perez shoots 80 and he goes, throws bricks through Borelli's window.
Fuck, Barrelli.
He's going to find out what it is to burn that place to the ground.
I don't even know what the fuck it is.
But if I hear it one more time.
When we were walking with Tiger and Moulinari, people were screaming
Frankie buttern eyes and Mollinarre was looking up like, what's a butter?
Because Frankie, it's like, oh, what's a butter knife?
Like, what is his butter knife?
He was, perplex.
He's like, I don't understand.
Like, these fans, the for Play fans are, they come out in waves.
I was going to ask you this.
Memorial, you got a huge base in Columbus, obviously.
We got to go there.
Dude, that was as much as New York.
Really?
Really?
Yeah, it was.
Crazy.
How many years you've been on the tour?
Eight, nine.
It'd be eight, I guess.
How surreal is it now that, like, after these last, like, probably what, like, year and a half?
When's, like, the first time he came on Foreplay?
Like, has there been, like, a big, noticeable jump for you with, like, fans and, like,
guys coming up to you and calling you brownie always says my boy from home he's like all right
kids well we're going to have to hear today from these fuckers this ain't no hobby there you go uh
what else do they yell at me all the time but it was always burrell is this ain't no hobby
who lit the kids um that's not theirs um hey well it doesn't matters what they say that doesn't
matter i mean um somebody yelled barstool today who some old man i mean he was like
70 years old. It says something about bar
stools. It's a wild demo.
People's golfing and the People's Caddy.
How's kids to People's Caddy?
I love it. Oh my goodness.
What he?
The People's Caddy. How's kids treat you out there?
Terrible.
Well, no, that's what I love
I love, no, seriously.
I mean, I love when
Tim and JT are here because they take the
pressure off on Monday Tuesday, Wednesday.
Because when he starts bitching, it's always bitching at them.
So I just sit back and I'm fine.
But it's bitching as in getting me better.
type of deal.
Constructive bitching?
Yeah, constructive bitching.
But then when Wednesday comes around, then it's like, okay, put on your hard hat, let's go.
What's he constructively bitch about?
The wind, the yardage.
What are we doing here?
Why do we get that club?
The turf.
The fuck is his turf.
That was a nice read.
What do you mean?
Yeah, nice read.
I mean, it's just, you know.
It's just part of being a twerk ad.
Yeah.
I mean.
What's the most, like, in the middle, during around, what's the most of these bitched at you?
Um, actually it's the week, it's funny because, I mean, you know, we, I told the story last time we were, I was with you guys who told the story about Beth Page and, you know, it's like four weeks later or four tournaments later we win at like RSM. And then, you know, we, we had a little spat at, uh, at Tampa. And then the next week we win the, win the match play, you know, so it's like, I think we just got, like, that will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What happened in Tampa? What happened in Tampa?
It's like a global event that everybody knows about.
I said, I pay you a lot of money to make mistakes like that.
And he goes, get the fuck out of here, kids.
Don't bring up how much money I make.
And I'm like, oh, he's mad.
He's real mad.
That one struck a court.
And I remember, I turned around and just walked away,
and Bones was there with NBC or whoever he's working for.
And he was like sitting there and he kind of just like looked at me like,
because he had me, I guess he just went to the next door.
I just wanted to the next day.
And I'm like, this motherfucker.
I mean, I'm just cussing them for the next 50 yards.
Did you hit in the drink or something?
No.
No, it was just, it was all about.
Where to miss.
Core strategy and how to play a certain hole and all that other stuff.
But the, you know, the wind's blown gusting 20 miles an hour.
And then I couldn't chip because I got no help from Tim that week.
And then I shouldn't have hit a pull hook with my six iron because JT wasn't there that week.
So. Remind the time and Jake, they're both in the room.
watching this all unfold.
Yeah, they can't talk back.
That's what I'm talking.
How nice is this?
It's so good.
They just got to get bad,
just banter over there all night.
So let me give Dewey a chance now.
Like what was the kids?
What's the best call he's ever made?
Doey?
Is there any like big moment where he fucking talked you off a shot?
He talks me into every shot.
So I don't know.
One of my favorite is,
I was telling that story today was against Hal Tong Lee in the match play.
I was six up with six to play and they got to the drive bowl in the back.
I think it was 13.
And it was like, even I could drive it over the water that day.
So it was straight down wind and short.
And I was like, it was just blow driver in the grandstand.
And then we'll chip back.
And he's like, no, dumbass.
You're six up with six to play.
Hit a five iron and a lob wedge and let's go eat lunch.
It's like, yeah, you're probably right.
So we did.
And we went and ate lunch.
How much say does do we have?
Like, does he call every shot?
Or do you sometimes just like, fuck off.
This is what I'm doing.
I'm weird, dude.
I change.
like week to week daily.
So when I'm in the zone,
I don't even talk to him.
When I'm struggling, I talk to him all the time.
I don't, wouldn't you say?
I'm kind of, all over the place.
That's part of our relationship.
We've been together for 10 years.
It's a matter of knowing when to speak of.
I mean, a lot of what I do is reading kids and just, you know,
his mannerisms and, you know, okay, just let him be.
I mean, the guy's on strikes.
I mean, if we're at Hilton Head and I'm striping it,
I don't need to talk to them.
It's like playing my home course.
And it also depends on how familiar we are with where we're at as well.
You know, when he knows a golf course, it's just stay out of the way, you know.
How much scoreboard watching you guys do?
I look at every one of them.
No matter what you're...
Having a blogging leaderboard and you never checking to see how you are.
I mean, how often you look at the podcast, see how you're doing?
Rankings all the time.
Exactly.
So, what's strange when people say they don't look at all.
They say they try to ignore that.
But it seems...
I don't get it.
Yeah.
I'm supposed to know how I'm doing.
I don't see how my peers are doing,
the only people I want to beat.
Yeah, they got it right up there.
Yeah.
They should tell you how they're doing.
They're going to tell me how I'm doing on every hole.
Yeah, right.
I'm going to check it out.
You put them there for a fucking reason.
I mean, it changes your whole strategy, right?
Right.
If I'm cut line or having a chance to win
or having a chance of top 10 or whatever coming down the stretch,
I want to know what I've got to do.
It changes my whole strategy.
I mean, 18 here, this week's a great risk reward hole.
And if you're looking at the leaderboard, you know what you got to do.
I mean, we've hit three iron off that tee a bunch, but we've hit driver a bunch.
So it all depends on where I am, what I need to make.
I mean, obviously, I can't make Eagle with three iron off the tee that often.
But I think that's what's great about the match play.
You guys asked earlier about match play.
Because we're always scoreball watching, sort of speak, because we're playing with that guy.
So we know exactly what we have to do during the round for each shot.
So, I mean, but that's why we watch the leaderboard.
I seem to do better when I know what I've got to do.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, you know what you do more often.
Yeah, make more birdies and a lot less bogeys.
So talk to me about 18.
Like, what's the, when are you going to hit driver?
When are you going to hit three iron?
How much is it changed the line?
It's all situational on the wind and what needs to happen.
If it's ever into the wind or off the left, I don't really love it because if I push it,
it goes out of bounds.
But if it's ever down off the right, I'm hammering it all day.
because we play that draw
got to sling it rigs
you know how we do
you sling it a little more
than I do though
Chabby's just
he needs to shut the fuck up
Talking about our guy
Yeah
I love chap
I love my best friend out here
We had an unbelievable
Ryan have you
Have you told kids about this
He sent me the video
Chappie's saying
If kids's ball doesn't hook
At least that much
He would never
Just yell
I put this video on Instagram
My ugly ass
and me like slinging like a 40-yard draw in there and hook and just right away chap he's just
down on one knee just doing like he's a fucking the most casual commentary all the time he goes
and i kevin kisner wish he could hit that shot right there that's what he wants his ball to draw
that much every time he just commented on it like shut the fuck up he's a really good dude
he's one of the best buddy oh he was awesome all there was a spectacular place uh so pebble like prep work
Obviously, the place has changed.
We already talked about weather-wise is completely different in February to June, but course-wise,
I mean, how much you guys getting out there, like, mapping out how different the fairways are, the rough,
how different is the golf course now than it was in February?
Well, it was a good thing I played the pro-am earlier this year, so I saw that the fairways moved in.
So I know those lines already, but the biggest difference is the rough, obviously, is way deeper, way more penal.
And then the thing I've noticed is they used all the runoffs to the ocean.
They've shaved all those down.
So your runouts because it's firmer than it is in February.
Obviously, we just hit wherever your ball lands basically in February.
It stops.
So now you've got holes like four, five, or four, six, eight.
They even mowed it down.
There's usually a patch.
All the way to the cliff.
All the way to cliff.
So the chip out now from the, so if you're in the rough off of eight, you got to chip out
because you can't go across.
I love that you're mapping out the chip.
How much you practice the chip out on eight?
Never.
But I'll be doing it one day.
Don't you worry?
If you want to know how to play eight,
I mean,
I was waiting.
I was waiting here.
I mean,
we played eight just a couple weeks ago.
I striped a three wood,
nice little baby draw.
I had what,
maybe 10 yards away from the rough,
perfectly in the fairway,
took a nice five iron,
drew it right in behind the hole.
Man,
you hit your five iron pretty short.
I do hit my, yeah, what was it, like 190?
Oh, man.
Yeah, you were, yeah.
It was about 190.
What's your five iron angle?
Well, I don't think he's fucking hurting if he was 10 yards from the cliff.
Well, yeah, he doesn't know.
I don't know how many yards I was from this.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You were too busy chasing down Perez's ball.
Ask him how tall you think these ceilings are in this, in this place right now, Frank.
Eight feet.
What?
What do you mean?
Why are you laughing?
That's probably spot on.
10.
Yeah,
I bet they're 10.
They're definitely 10.
My dad's a contractor.
Your dad's a contractor?
Your dad's a contractor?
Yeah.
So he's got the worst
perception of like spatial
depth perception of all time?
No,
you're chipping,
just technique sucks.
Horrifying.
Horrifying.
But anyway,
what's wrong with his technique?
He goes to slow to fast.
It's awesome.
It's awesome.
We need to get Tim on here.
Tim will show him how to do it.
Tim,
you teach me how to chunk and skull chips
so he can probably fix Frankie.
he's laughing
We are getting little laughs
From the boys
You know
Just put a little bow to
Regardless of how far
It was from the fucking ledger
All you have to do is watch
Frankie from when the club stops
Going back to going down
That's the fastest part
Of the whole motion
That one little second
There's like
Hooh
Zorro went off right here
And the rest of it's like
I don't know what just happened
But I know shit went real bad back there
Oh yeah
That's absolutely incredible
We're also
We're watching this game
Five right now
It's getting dicey
It's getting really intense.
I made a par on eight.
I'm just going to say it.
I'm just going to say you guys wouldn't let me finish that story.
I made a par.
I missed a 30 putt.
All right.
So.
I was the only part in the group today.
He won the hole.
Who did you play with?
Play with Kooch and Brendan Todd and Sep Straca.
Our caddy said to me that on Thursday of the U.S.
Open, professional golfers will take the way I played that hole.
100%.
You said that.
The caddy didn't say that.
I said that to him and he agreed.
Yeah, I would take it right now.
He's like, I'll take that right now.
What's the hardest hole in the property?
for Kisner
8 or 9
depending on if you hit the
Fairwell and 8 if you hit the Farrell and 8 it's not a big deal
But he's got something to say
9 number 2 just because it's a shitty
Oh yeah I don't even count that as a par 4 though
Yeah I just
You're just playing it as a par 5
Yeah
So that's got to be the hard
I mean that's typical USGA bullshit
You know they turn par 5 and it's par 4
I don't know what are we taking
Are we taking that rigs or what?
They're allowed to say what they want in this podcast
I love it
I will say
you know when we played it
I will say that whole changes and becomes like
when they make it from a 5 to a 4
it just becomes a huge advantage to the bomber
we couldn't believe it became a 4
we actually asked a couple guys from the u.s.g.
they're like that you have to have the scorecard incorrect
there's no way it's a 4 because i think it's a 5 right
for everyone else that plays like yeah yeah it's a 5 all the time
it's a 5 even if you play the blue t's here
which are it's a 5 from in front of where they put the usGA t's
the U.S. Open T's.
We'll probably play the box.
What's the reasoning for that?
Is that to try and make the...
They like PAR. They like to show people that people are shooting over PAR.
Like PAR matters.
Correct.
It doesn't matter.
To us it matter.
What matters?
To us Simpleton viewers, it matters.
Just shoot the lowest score.
The problem is it messes with your brain when you're a player.
Right.
So now you just made bogey and you hit a beautiful three iron
and then plugged in the front right bunker like mine did today,
10 feet from the flag.
Why did you hit that?
Why'd you hit it right like that?
That was JT's fault.
It's because we had 233 to pin.
Wind off the right and it's about as narrow as this room right.
10 foot ceiling.
How do you plug a three?
Not sure.
Ask your close personal friends.
Typical USGA bullshit.
Fucking Raptors are going to win the fucking champion.
Kauai is just fully taken over the end of this game and now it looks like they're up by six with three minutes.
We do.
So people are going to be listening to us.
They're going to know.
Tomorrow, they're going to know, unless this goes into an unprecedented series of overtimes, 30 to 35 overtimes.
They're going to know, and it looks like the Raptors are about to win the first game.
Do you care?
Are you basketball, guy?
Not really.
I mean, I like to watch the finals, but I don't watch the NBA regularly.
I watch college basketball.
Yeah, I agree.
I like college basketball more, too.
Are you trying to mush my San Luis, by the way?
Yeah, I was.
How about that?
Why y'all play so dirty?
I don't know shit about hockey
But you're always roughing them up
Yeah, we're a very hard-hitting physical team
Yeah
And they're just way more finesse
They got way more skill
That's just not true
They've been a little more blue collar
This series for sure
Blue collar
Why did you get all you like perked up
How big is that Chara guy by the way
He's a huge freak
Are you fucking kidding me?
Are you fucking kidding me Siri?
Listen to this shit
What was that?
What is happening?
It's just
It just said, hey, Siri, blue collar.
Are you kidding?
Did your shit?
It's on mute.
It's on mute.
It's 2019.
You don't have a phone that works, probably?
Siri does this.
If you say anything around, see, it's bizarre.
You didn't say Siri, though.
I didn't.
You just started yelling.
That's like the third time in this podcast.
Tim Cook, just trying to check you out.
How about this?
When we talked to Tiger Woods today, my fucking alarm went off 10 seconds after he walked away.
It just would have just been ringing.
Well, you always got Phantom alarm.
arms going on it's insane my phone is just a problem it's a problem there's no way of just expense a new one to
yeah that's what i got to do uh so what's the kevin kisner and dewy key to success this week what do you
what's kids got to do well i got to hit fairways then i'll be fine but that's what you do you hit
that's right and i don't need it to rain it doesn't look like it's going to no rain kills you because
you hit it so short yeah so short you want to go have a long drive for your income well i'm a blogger you're
So short.
Whose fault is it if you don't have a
longest person in this room?
Oh yeah.
Frankie moves it out there pretty good.
I may be able to get you out there.
I doubt it.
We did.
I would actually,
I have no idea
because we just make one of you and say you're short.
We went to hit it way farther.
I think you do.
I have no idea.
We went to Minnesota,
Minnesota's golf team's little practice facility
and we were on the track man.
I don't know.
know how I mean I'm assuming it was pretty good you guys use the trackman all the time
i mean trackman's pretty legit and I hit it what 303 you're not every time but yeah it's a good
yeah well trackman puts like 30 yards a roll so that's why I mean I knew you're gonna say that
why is what do you mean where's that comment come from why does it do that I have no idea I'm
invent it I just can read it you track man guy I don't even tell you the last time I was on it
I can just really yeah what do you think of uh Paul Casey when he arrives he looks like a businessman
walking in with his trackman.
All these guys use it for different reasons.
They all check numbers all the time,
and I'm just not that big into it.
I'm more of a field guy.
Like swing speed and all that stuff?
Well, they just do wedges and, like, to warm up.
Like, DJ hits 30 minutes on it every round before they hit wedges.
DJ does?
Yeah.
Just wedges on the track man?
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Do you ever look up on the...
I don't get that many wedges like he does, so...
That's true.
I'm not hitting eight iron.
No, you're not.
It's just grinding on the eight to six.
It's exciting.
Top Tracer puts your guys stats up on the driver range.
Do you ever look at that and like base like your swings off of that or no?
Yeah, but who's right?
You know, we all just trusting a bunch of geeks that made up this algorithm to tell us how far we hit it.
I said that all the time.
I don't know.
So track man, we walked by the range today and it had Scott Pearson with 179 mile an hour ball speed.
And I'm like, there's no fucking way that guy hits at 179.
So who's right?
I mean, Trackman probably said he had 168 ball speed.
How do you figure out who's right?
I have no idea.
What is right?
I know how far my ball goes when I hit it
because I can walk out there and tell you how far it was.
There you go.
I like that.
So you're just to all feel.
That's what you're focused.
I mean, I have a pretty good idea how far it's going,
but I'm not just trusting some little boxes
as much as a Honda Accords sitting behind me,
tell me how far it is.
So what are we working on right now?
Whew.
Never stops, Riggs.
What's in the lab right now?
What's in the Kiz lab?
Just always grinding.
my full swing.
Pudding's pretty normal all the time.
You're a great putter.
I'm pretty good at that.
I have to be, though.
So do you not be where I am if I don't.
Do you work on your putting a ton to be that good at it?
I put a lot.
Do you enjoy it?
Because it's more fun.
I like doing shit I'm good at.
You just like seeing the ball go in the home?
Yeah, I just like practicing it because I know I need to put good every week.
Do you look at your stroke or you just feel it out?
Never once.
I look at my stroke.
You just feel it out.
No, I don't feel anything.
I just work on my lines and my setup.
So, like, I always want to start it where I'm, where I think I'm looking,
and I always want to be the same distance from the ball,
and I always want my setup to be the same ball position.
Interesting.
How much is, like, the different green speeds every week, fuck with you?
It's not bad.
It's more the surface than the speed.
Like, this week is great because the poana's firm,
but normally I hate poena because it's so bumpy.
Because it's a little shaggy or it's bumpy.
That's right.
But this week is great.
Great. But I love Bermuda, because that's what I grew up on.
I feel like that's pretty, like a lot of the guys, whatever grass they grew up on is when they, when they put, do you pick tournaments around that?
Absolutely.
I love when all the California boys have to come to Bermuda, and they're like, kids, what is this grain shit?
Why is this hole eating out?
Like, what are you talking about, man? That's what I'm used to.
That's when you thrive.
Exactly.
I got to tell you, I've never known how to re-grain in my entire life.
Grain grows downhill rig, so it doesn't really matter.
then why the fuck do you guys talk about it all the time i don't that felt like a riddle that i didn't get
everybody else does that was a riddle that's what it felt like grain grows down they say grain
grows towards like the sun grain grows downhill what do you think tim tim said definitely downhill
what is tim though he studies it i don't i just tell you which way i see the grain growing all
what's tim's resume he's your swing guy short game he's a short game guy he watches me putt really
good. And then just tells me, damn, that looked good. I don't know how that went in.
Damn, that look good, too. Tim just said, keep doing that.
All right, kids, what's the prediction for this week? How you feel?
I think I'm going to do all right. Yeah. That's the most confidence he's had in a major in a while,
I feel like. Ever. What do you mean? I tell you what I'm going to do good. Carnusti, I could have told you I was going to have a
chance before we started.
you had a fucking real good chance of
what happened on number two there
couldn't get out of that fucker
that bunker yeah
I thought I might just be buried there
actually the last
the one I got out was the one I said like never
we had a real problem
remember when we were like we don't know who to fucking
root for it we had a serious problem
Kisner's in the fucking mix tigers in the mix
where the fucking Kisner come from
like this guy's gonna win the fucking tournament
I remember that being a real problem
no it was we were at the bar we started drinking
like 9 a.m.
because you get a place.
It was a scene over there.
Yeah, because then like Tiger fell out and then we're like,
but Kisner can still win and it was nuts.
That was,
I remember that being very, very,
very much.
Do you feel a ton more pressure in majors or no?
No.
I don't really get that fired up about me.
I can't,
I can't imagine he would ever feel pressure.
You gave a fist pump when you made that put to beat Kooch,
the match put.
Yeah,
I didn't have to walk up that hill to 17.
We,
we didn't have to walk up.
I tell people all the time.
I said,
I think Dewey was more excited that he didn't have to walk up
the hill than I did he was that I won he had a broken toe 70 miles that week on a broken
toe what yeah how come we didn't hear more about that we got a 103 103 game right
because they came all the way back insane this is fucking crazy the fact that stuff in real time
oh no oh no oh yeah what
what oh shit huge nuts wow dragging on the ground this doie can you tell you
when Kiz has it, like on a Monday?
Like, how early can you tell?
No, no.
Not until.
Never.
No.
You can't?
Really, and not until.
Tournament days, it's not even Thursday and Friday, but it's Sunday morning.
You can tell.
If we're in the mix, the way he comes out and just the communication with things he says,
the way he carries himself.
Yeah.
You get the feeling.
Right.
It's just different.
Yeah.
Just the look and really in his face and how he carries himself.
Right.
So even like match play.
Sunday you knew like man we can we're gonna fucking win this thing um yeah I mean I mean
to be honest with you all week I mean I love the match play the week the year before we
lost in the finals um in a close but I mean I think the scary matches when we were I think
we were three down after six old or something to be now right um tell them what you told me on that
T um it was six or seven T yeah he gets me now he said um he said um he says um he says
something about
our plans for the week
I said,
I said,
well,
if you don't see
fucks are playing better,
I mean,
we're going to be going home tomorrow.
You know,
we're not going to,
it was something that
like that can't exactly remember what it was.
What are your plans for the week?
Go home tomorrow because of how dog shoes.
So it looked like you're going home tomorrow if you don't start making
a birdies.
Right in front of Tony.
We were waiting.
Tony and Greg.
His caddy just started dying laughing.
Oh,
shit.
Should I open up the American Airlines app right now and start making my
flight.
Don't do
American.
Don't worry.
He was doing
that at Best page.
Yeah.
My fucking app won't load.
I got four holes left.
It wouldn't.
I mean,
it sucked.
I'm trying to get my flight
out of JFK to go home
and I couldn't get my,
I have an inside my yardage book.
I'm like,
the fucking thing won't load.
What are you guys on?
We were on the front.
We were finishing on the front.
It started,
yeah, it started like on five.
That is incredible.
Pull it out the.
Four holes left.
He's like, I can't get a fucking flight out of here.
The app would not load.
Oh, I'm already texting.
What flight am I on?
Who do you got?
You got a guy for that?
Yeah.
One of your life coaches?
No.
Why?
Do you have a guy for that?
Got a guy for that.
You do?
I mean, you do.
You do it.
You're texting.
Absolutely.
Can't text American Airlines.
Hey, kids, I need a flight.
No.
I text.
She takes care of it.
We're all good.
All right.
Well, good.
I hope you're feeling good.
Hey, Riggs?
You not have any questions, Trent?
Riggs?
Hey, Riggs.
No.
I don't have a guy for that.
No, you're going to go.
That's why you're walking down the, you know.
That's why I'm trying to get my up to work.
Yeah, at Beth page, like, God, this fucking service sucks out here.
I can't get a flight.
There's too many fucking people out here.
Those are his people, though.
He's from Long Island.
Yes, sir.
You're from Long Island?
He's from New Hampton.
Oh, wow.
It's way out there.
All right.
It's a different part out there.
Every time.
Like, these whole new world.
Yeah.
Whole new world.
Dewey stories tonight on the way home. Tim's driving, like a good old Southern boy from
Mississippi about five miles an hour on the speed limit. And some car just randomly pulls out in
front of him and stops. And Tim's like, what is this guy doing? What do I do? And Dewey reaches across
him and holds the horn down for 30 seconds. He goes, that's what you fucking do, Tim. That's what you do.
New York right there. That is New York. To a fucking team.
with you guys.
I can't go to sleep without hearing horns honking anymore.
It puts me to sleep.
That's how used to it I am.
He puts me to sleep.
Jesus Christ.
All right, kids.
Well, kids and Dewey.
Good luck this week.
We got to watch it into this game.
22 seconds left.
Yeah, we might as well keep this rolling.
I guess we got to do live commentary here.
106, 105 Golden State.
Oh, wow.
What did he call?
The call.
What?
No, they called a foul on fucking Steph Curry.
Come on.
I think Cousin was setting a moving screen.
Oh, wow.
Terrible call.
Great.
So we're going to have,
Kauai Leonard's going to take a last second shot here.
With 15 seconds left.
Toronto's down by one.
To win the title.
I hope, man,
I hope we get a buzzer beater here.
I think he's,
I think he's draining the...
No,
No, we don't need volume.
I think there's no way he doesn't make this.
14 seconds.
You got to shoot with four left, though.
Are they going to take a time out?
Nope.
Where's Kau?
There is.
he is. I like the rebound.
Quay's got the ball.
Seven, six, five.
He passed it.
What are you doing?
Oh, no.
Put it up for the title.
Oh, it hit.
Ball game.
That's game.
All right.
Hit off the side of the backboard.
We got a couple people upset.
That was a beautiful shot.
Kyle Lowry with the chance to win it all and it just didn't go.
Not even close.
That was a horrific shot.
Now we got a little bit of a series here.
Yeah.
But KD's never come back.
Buggy Cousins is furious.
He looks rough.
I did.
I think his leg.
absolutely exploded.
We're getting the way of the player.
We got to do better than this, Nick Nurse.
I mean,
Kauai Leonard's got to take that shot.
Yeah, what does he do?
You have to take that shot if you're Quy Leonard.
I mean, I understand he got doubled,
but find a way to get him the ball.
Did he get the side of the ball?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that was.
He barely got it off.
Yikes.
Steff Curry.
Talking shit.
Yep.
All right.
All right.
Now, that is what it is.
I mean, I know how I know about shank and shots.
No, you know a lot about it because you can't, you know, you can't chip.
How you got in game seven?
Wednesday, Riggs.
I got the St. Louis Blues.
You think so?
Yeah.
What's the line?
I think the Bruins are like, I don't know.
It's got to be like minus 150.
That's right.
My guess is minus 150.
I mean, Bruins are the favorite anyway, right?
They were the favorite going in the series, yeah.
I bet a pretty good amount on the beginning of the series for them to win, the blues, obviously.
I think they were plus 130 maybe, something like that.
So, look, the blues are one of the best road teams the entire.
So you got to get it down on the road.
It's going to complete their story.
Who do you got?
I think the bees are going to take it down for title town.
Do you even watch the hockey?
I watched the whole game on the playing.
I remember I was asking you what was some rules things?
Yeah, you were.
He did.
He goes, why was that a penalty?
It looks like every other hit.
But you can't hit a person if they're facing the boards that you're from behind.
Yep.
It's all a lot of it is arbitrary.
It's like if they, a lot of it depends on how strong the person are that you hit.
Like a lot of times they're just strong.
they just won't go down and then it's just not a penalty.
Speaking of that, Chara, does he play for you?
He plays for the Bruins.
Big motherfucker.
He's like 7 feet tall.
God, how big is that guy?
He's a gladiator.
He's got to be the slowest guy ever, but he is a monster.
On skates, too, he's like eight feet tall.
Good God.
He is a monster out there.
And he just plounds your boys around.
He's always the dude pushing your guy out of the way in front of the net.
Always.
I mean, dude, he's like 42 now.
Forty-three, maybe, something like that.
I would be so mad if I was the blues guy that had to go against him.
the whole game.
I just feel like I was dead.
It'd be a hard day at work.
Hard day of work.
You come in a locker and like,
whew, my dogs are barking.
How bad does it hurt when you get smashed into the boards, though?
Honestly, a lot of times it's the crowd reaction makes it sound way worse than it actually is.
It's worse when you get hit on the ice, when you fall under the ice.
It's hard.
It's hard.
It's way harder than the boards.
The boards are usually a little bit forgiving.
Give to you.
When you fall on the ice, it's like, oh, fuck.
And nobody makes it big of a noise.
Like, you just fall and stumble and hit something on the ice and nobody, like, notices.
When you get crashed on the boards, it's super loud.
It's like, ooh, you fall on the ice, nobody says a fucking word.
You got an elbow that's got a softball-sized bruise on it for the next two weeks.
It sounds like you spend a lot of time on the ice in your day.
I was pretty weak.
I just wasn't very strong out there.
Skill guy.
We can see that in your golf swing.
All right, I think, are you guys got any more questions?
Are we done with these clowns?
I'm done with these clowns.
I'll say this clown because I don't think, Dewey's not a clown.
I'm definitely not a clown.
No.
I'm definitely not a clown.
Boys, good luck this week.
We appreciate you taking the time.
Thank you.
In the hottest house in the state of California.
Cooling off.
My face is, I feel like it's a thousand degrees.
You're getting a little red right now.
I'm so hot.
I'm always red.
I was going to give you nice compliment too at the hours of this.
I was going to say, you know, it's every single.
time we talk to you this duo it's unbelievable that you guys are this normal and cool and then
you just make a shit ton of money playing golf it just doesn't make any sense it's like you broke
the system it's insane how much like us you are hanging out and how much better you are at us than
golf growing up like even when you were growing up like you like you had to have thought that being
a professional athlete or a guy that can reach your level had to be like some sort of fucking robot
right like another level of like mind like mind games that they play like we just like like tiger
Woods is a fucking robot.
Like all these other guys are like Bryson.
Like you talk to him and he's like he's just a he's just a computer.
Like and then you talk to you and like I can meet you at a fuck.
It's true.
I got friends.
I was playing my friends on Saturday.
I hit an eight iron in the bunker and they're like you're fucking terrible.
What was that?
But it's amazing that that guy can also go out and fucking make fucking money and play professional
golf.
It's crazy.
Well, I appreciate it.
Frankie.
Yeah.
I mean, you're the 27th best player in the world.
in the world.
That's fucking stupid.
How many people
that are in the world?
A lot.
You know how many more guys are...
How many guys are more like...
And they look more like...
They just look like they, like, they like...
But you just do it.
Like, it...
What's what happens?
Yeah, you just do it.
Get the job done.
Just get the job done.
How's your skinny little white ass
the 27th best golfer in the world?
Because I'll put.
That is the reason, right?
Everything...
You ever wake up and just be like, like,
how am I on a PGA tour?
No.
It's all I ever known.
See, you're confident.
I like that.
Yeah.
All right.
And I can play you with Just a Five Iron.
You think he beat me with Just a Five Iron?
100%.
I mean...
All bullshit aside.
I mean, he's 25th and 27th in the world because he's got a good team behind him.
There you go, Dewey.
Do you think he could beat him with Just a Five Iron?
No.
You don't think I could beat Riggs with Just a Five Iron?
Oh, I thought, yes, if I could beat...
No, no.
I could beat Riggs.
I'm going to shoot 80.
I haven't seen Riggs play.
That's about,
oh,
from the back T's,
be close.
Around what I shoot.
And if I didn't break 40,
I had to keep playing.
Can he use a putter,
a five-hiner and a putter?
So I'm like a six-point.
Just play it way back
and lean the shaft.
Just basically like a putter.
I'm like a 6.5 right now.
Where are you playing?
We're definitely playing on Palmetto.
Then no.
We can't play your whole track.
A little story about,
Let's play Augusta.
Let's do it at Augusta.
Yeah, let's just do it in Augusta.
Okay.
Why don't we'll line that up.
Well, I'll see you all there next year.
Okay.
I mean, we're absolutely doing that, though.
Yeah, we're doing kids.
Kis versus Riggs.
Fis plays with just a five-iron.
Tell, let Dewey tell his story about playing in this podcast.
It was, uh, to end this podcast.
I started working for Kiz in 2009 and the first year was out on the web tour on 2010.
And so out there, it's a little less, it's a little more relaxed and
So we're, after a round, we're like chipping.
He's like, all right, let's have a little chipping contest.
So I would grab his other wedge and we would chip.
And I played a little bit of golf.
And so he's like, all right, first one to five,
the first one to get five up wins, you know, 50 bucks or whatever.
I go five up, kids.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
Nobody's going to get five.
I said, if you played me on a golf course,
you wouldn't get five up in 18 holes.
I mean, there's no way.
Right.
So we're chipping and chipping and chipping.
So he doesn't say anything.
So he takes me to the Palm medal for the first time.
and he doesn't tell me he doesn't say a word and I am seven down after seven
and he looks at me he goes uh you'd never be five now will you and I'm like holy fuck
this place is hard but I mean like the first hole I hit a shot up there I'm like all right
I go to the car and he goes he looks back here she comes I look up here's that fucking ball
rolling back off the green oh man what's going on here palmetto just impossible no it's not
impossible but old school out of McKinsey we are not I didn't know it was a McKinsey
Yeah, they roll off everywhere.
It's a great place.
I would challenge him there just to go play it.
Well, no, I want to, I don't, I know I understand it's probably awesome.
I care way more about winning than I do about playing.
Well, then you better not play them.
We got to do this somewhere.
Where should we do this?
Where should we do this?
And I don't think you can handle the shit talking.
What?
The shit talking will be.
You play with all these posties on the PGA tour all day.
I play with people that just shit talking.
So what do you do on 130-yard part?
What do you do in 130-yard part three of that?
5 iron we're not going to play 130 yard part 3 we're playing the back t's okay 100s all right
there's got to be like 165 170 right let's see you think a guy can hit a 5 hour 170 it's like
chippy cut soft swing it just doesn't make sense to me but i guess so and then on the par fours i'm
gonna lay up to 1 95 on every one of them so if it's 400 what are you gonna hit like a chipie like
you can hit it to 195 every time no wait hey riggs he's 20 you just said he's 27th in the world
I think he can play it to 1 to 190 or whatever he needs to play.
We have to do this.
Trust me, I can do it.
It's not like I just thought of it out of blue.
Yeah, but I speak your ass.
Have you played a full round with just a five iron?
Yeah.
You have.
And you shot 80.
My overrunner's 40 on the nine holes.
We got to do this, man.
That's crazy town.
What do you do in a green side bunker?
Open it up, dog.
He practices it.
I mean, we practice with five irons out of bunkers.
I got a video in a swing.
Because if you can do it a five iron.
you know how easy it looks with a lob wedge?
I'll tell you what.
You want to know what a weapon is?
Me with a five iron in a green side bunker.
That's a fucking weapon.
That needs to be approved by like the FDA and shit.
The FDA.
Food and drug administration.
Yes.
I made no sense.
They need their head.
They need their eyes on that.
They need their eye on there.
There's a hallucinogens going on.
This has to be illegal.
All right.
We got to pick a trap.
We're doing it.
We got to figure out a bet.
We can do it at Augustine National right here.
I got it on my video.
How about if he beats you that?
How about if he beats you?
You have to bring him out in Augusta.
If he beats me?
Yeah.
He's not going to play unless he takes his brother.
I already know the rules.
People don't know that.
I do have a rule.
So then you got to bring that,
you got to abide by that rule.
You got to bring them both out?
I can't.
It's hard enough to get one idiot.
You think I can get two?
God, that place is crazy.
kids has told me he would take me out to augusta but i said i'm i can't take an invite unless my brother
let's give this straight for the podcast i can't promise you anything that's true we can cut that part
listen if he wants to be proud and bring his brother and wait you can take me
i'll be straight up frankie sliding in there i don't need to take i don't need to take anyone i don't
blame him as a smart i don't need to take anybody kill his own dad just
i just saw my dad just came up on the text message just like see you
Cancel.
You're dead to me, Dad.
I'm going to Augusta.
Yeah.
You're pulling up a five iron from Augusta video right now.
Yeah, if I can find it.
It's from a couple years ago.
I hit this sick five iron bunker shot in a practice round.
Me and Chappie, actually, were having a contest from left on 17 to a pin four from the left.
And I hit it six feet short-sighted.
What?
Yeah, it was a joke.
I don't think I haven't anymore.
You, like, lobbed it out there?
Yeah.
It came out like a lob wedge.
It was so pure.
You just trying to rattle you right now with your five iron.
I'm going to own you with my five iron.
And I'm going to talk shit the entire time.
We're doing it.
We're absolutely playing a match where I get my full bag.
Match play and each person loses a hole has a shotgun of beer.
Fine.
For the next T shot.
Fine.
You're going to definitely lose that now.
You'll be so drunk by the end of it.
You're 130 pounds.
That has never slowed me down.
We got to come up with the stakes.
I would like it to be something.
And we're going to come up with the course.
We're not playing Palmetto.
I'll tell you that much right now.
Palmetto Golf Club.
Yeah, it sounds like you're great.
You already got invited there once and you didn't show up.
Hey, you want to plug your foundation?
Yeah, hell yeah.
So you boys are coming to do my foundation event.
Hell yeah, we'll be that.
In November 9th and 10th, Sage Valley, sick golf course, sick facility.
You have a concert, big auction, a lot of drinks.
and party and 18 pros plan.
18?
Mm-hmm.
How many of them were better than you?
If I can find anybody that likes me enough to come.
You found us?
I found you.
Y'all just bring the pros, right?
That's true.
Maybe we'll get T. Weezy on there.
That would be something.
Yeah, he'll be real quick to come up, let me tell you.
Is there a website?
Yeah, KisnerFoundation.com.
I think all the details were just released last week.
So all you out there listening, KisnerFoundation.com, go help out, go check it out.
Kids is doing good work.
Kids, right?
And Riggs is him seeing the auction, so that should be interesting.
I am.
Are you actually?
The auction.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be a scene.
Yeah, it's got to be totally sober, too.
He said, you just got to be drunk and funny.
And I was like, yeah, cool.
I'm good at that.
That's all I wrote back.
All right.
All right, Kevin Kisner, good luck this week at the ESO.
Doey.
We appreciate you hopping on.
Everybody root for these guys.
That's all I got.
Always.
All right.
Go back to your mansion and your AC and leave my hot house.
Our house is so important.
Stop drinking my beer.
How about this?
They all show up.
No beer.
They're staying in a $50 million mansion, but they have no beer.
They've got to take mine.
Wow.
I said I'd been moody.
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks, boys.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
See ya.
