Fore Play - Live from Torrey Pines: It’s U.S. Open Week

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Podcasting live from the cliffs of Southern California, and joined by Craig Annis the chief branding officer for the USGA, we’re previewing the 121st U.S. Open championship. And we go through the hi...story of our relationship with the USGA, both the ups and downs. Also: Rickie responded to Trent’s DM, Trent shot 122, Man Of Streel bought Riggs dinner, and Lurch accidentally exposed himself at Pebble.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I'm at Barstool Sports. We are live from Tori Pines. It is U.S. Open Week, and we have replaced our very own Frankie Brelli, the pizza maker, with the chief brand officer at the United States Golf Association, the association, as I call you guys. Tough shoes to fill. You got to try to articulate better than...
Starting point is 00:00:27 You got any hockey takes you want to get out? He fills that. That's what he does on this show. I can't really say much because I'm a Bruins fan, so I better just keep my mouth shut with Frankie on that one. We were talking about that earlier that you considered during the series firing off some texts to Frankie. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You're happy now that you didn't. After this third game, I was ready to fire off a few, but thought better. Well, Craig, we're here, obviously, at Torrey Pines. We've got a beautiful view behind us. We do. Looking at the clubhouse. Looking at the range. Kind of looking at all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah, this is cool. This is a good spot that we picked. Oh, he said view behind us. Not in front of us. Both. Well, I should not be talking about the things that I can see because the viewers cannot see that. The camera trends actually look in the exact direction. Oh, yeah, yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:01:07 That was a tough one. View behind us is pretty great, I will say. Craig, initial kind of thoughts as we enter the week, Tori Pines, you know, fans, what's the situation? How is the United States Golf Association feel? We're excited. This has been a long time coming. A year off without fans and a year off without qualifying was tough for everyone. who loves the game.
Starting point is 00:01:31 You know, we got through it. But excited to welcome, you know, probably between 8 to 10,000 fans here, starting on Thursday. So you'll be able to feel the electricity and the excitement, which gets us all pretty pumped up. And then to be back at Tori, where, you know, 2008, for those of you that love golf,
Starting point is 00:01:50 love the U.S. Open, the Tiger Rocko 18 holes, was pretty spectacular. So we know this venue has a lot of history, and we're looking forward to making some more. more this week. Again, not to talk about things that are behind the camera, but I believe on these things here, it's like a whole ode to Tiger's 2008 win, yeah? It absolutely is. Yeah, it's the whole chronicling of the history of the win for Tiger Woods
Starting point is 00:02:12 in 2008, which I know Riggs is a really big fan of Tiger, I think, is what I heard, so I know he'll love that. Yeah, this podcast likes Tiger. It's a pro-Tiger Woods podcast, but it's also a pro-USGA podcast. We've been referring to you folks as our close personal friend for a long time. How do you think our relationship is? I think it's, um, I think it's, um, It's blooming. It's blooming, I'd say, yeah. I don't know where that was going to go. It didn't feel like a blooming answer. Well, there have been some low points. I like to be thoughtful in my response.
Starting point is 00:02:40 What would you describe as some of the low points? I like to focus on the high points. Okay. The high points only. The high points only. Yeah, the blooming. The blooming. We love to have you out here. Really love to have you at the Women's Open.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So thank you. Happy to be there. All of the content that you shared during the Women's Open in particular was just spectacular. and it's such, you know, a great thing for all of you to shine a light on the women's game. I need advocates, and you guys stepped up in a big way, so we're thankful for that. I will say going to Olympic was extremely cool. I know Pebble Beach is coming up, I believe, in two years as well, so the women are starting to get, you know, their kind of shake, their shot at some of the more iconic venues.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You guys got to be pumped about that because it's been wildly successful. Absolutely. And I'd just say wait for it because, you know, in the next three, four months, we're going to make some announcements around 2026 to 2030, and there are going to be some phenomenal locations as well. But definitely pumped for 2023 at Pebble Beach. First time the Women's Open will go there. I know having talked to players two weeks ago, they're excited about it. The Pebble folks were at Olympic, checking things out.
Starting point is 00:03:44 They had tons of ideas about what they're going to do to celebrate the Women's Open and all the athletes that compete in it. So we have a lot of great venues coming up, including Aaron Hills. I know another one of your favorite, 2025. Trent Hills, we call them sometimes. Yeah, well, Yeah, I shot 102 there. What did you shoot that day rigs?
Starting point is 00:03:59 102 as well. Which Frankie was right there with you, too. The three of you were... It was a bad day for us. That really explains golf really well. It's like the worst day you've had in years, and it was the best day I've had in you. Same score. Sneaky part about that was that I had to make like a six-footer to tie you.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And we had finished right before you, and I was standing on the green watching you. After I jinxed you. You shot a 102 at Aaron Hills? I did, yeah. That's impressive. Thank you. That's impressive. It was by far the best day of golf I've had in years.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So for those that don't recall, when we did the podcast here a month and a half ago, we are obviously right next to a base, and you get, you know, those that are protecting our country flying routes all over this place. So it gets extremely loud at times. So if that's what you hear in the background, you know, that's just what it is. Which is cool. We like America. We're big fans of that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We're also big fans at Owens Mixers. So I'm going to do an ad reader here real quick, Craig. But Owens Mixers, I don't know if you've had Owens, but it's quite delicious. you probably don't want to step on any toes. The Barstle transfusion, fantastic. You can get it at CVS now I saw, which is awesome, get it on Amazon delivered right to you. Lurch, what kind of drink do you like?
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yes. I think it starts with a pee. Trent? Paloma. Yep, mailed it. Love it. Grapefruit. They got the grapefruit and lime mix that you put in there,
Starting point is 00:05:13 so big thanks to Owens Mixers. Craig, I believe at one point, one of the taglines on Sirius Radio said, fuck the USGA on Barstle Sports. And I want to say you can't say that, but I think that was one of our low points. that we've brought up offline. That was absolutely a low point.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Thank you for reminding. Definition of a low point. Thank you for reminding me. Although I do recall, I think we were on the receiving end of the first apology, official apology by Dave Portnoy in his entire life. He does not give those out very often. Extremely rare. You guys were misguided.
Starting point is 00:05:48 We corrected the situation. Yeah, we were misled. Yeah, and we got the apology. That was all part of the bloom. uh the blooming yeah i think it's when things started to recover but yeah absolutely if plant's dead you give a little water and then it starts so you know might not be blooming in that moment so i want to go back to uh because i don't think we've ever had you on the show and discuss the story but when we first came into contact was 2018 a month or so before the u.s.
Starting point is 00:06:13 opening chennaecke we got another plane flying so i want to make sure but that i think people can hear us right jake that's just that's just a little background noise it's if you don't like that you don't like America, you can go fuck yourself. This is the United States Golf Association's tournament championship. I caught myself there. But 2018, a month before the U.S. Open Championship at Chinatak Hills, we were debating ferociously all across Barcelona sports,
Starting point is 00:06:37 this idea of Mulligan's Mulligan challenge. Could Dave Portnoy with his limited skill set in the game of golf win the U.S. Open with unlimited Mulligans? And then you reached out to me. I did. I did. It was our first interaction. We had a bunch of folks that were listening and saying,
Starting point is 00:06:54 hey, look, is this ever anything that we would consider? We called our friends at Shinnecock, and they said, absolutely, let's do it. Let's let them try it out. Because I think a lot of people, when we talk about that, they're like, I cannot believe Shinnecock Hills allowed you guys to do this. Yeah, no, there are a lot of fans, a lot of fans. In fact, it was interesting when we were going out there. There were fans that heard you were coming,
Starting point is 00:07:12 and they were, you know, on the lining some of the streets clapping. But, no, it was great. I mean, other than that, you know, we had to get put on the clock at one. point because there were so many puts. Besides that, it was a lot of fun. What was your first, you know, thoughts, reactions, were you panicking at all when we sort of arrived? We were a bit of a carnival, a bit of a circus. We had a crew, all kinds of different backgrounds, people doing different gigs. There was a lot of cameras. What was sort of your reaction when we first showed up that day? I would characterize my feelings as cautiously optimistic. We get that a lot, actually.
Starting point is 00:07:51 cautiously optimistic. We got that originally for, as I believe from maybe PJ Tour, but Barstall Sports as a whole, that's kind of the tagline for when we go into new avenues, I would say. Yeah, I think that's very fair. Yeah. Causciously optimistic, I think. Yeah, yeah. How do you think it turned out? It turned out really well.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It was a fun day. We had Matt Parzialli out there, firefighter from Brockton tied for the low AM that year, mid-am champ, which was great, the connection, the Massachusetts connection, which I'm also from Massachusetts. So that was nice to hear some similar accents, even though Dave has given his up. You don't have an accent, though, either. I've given mine up, too, to be fair. Where are you from originally? Haverill. Haverill, Massachusetts, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Does that just mean it's been sculpted by other experiences? I just lived outside so many years that sort of goes away. So you're what? Bruins, Pats? No, you're not Pat. Of course. Patriots, Bruins, Red Sox, Celtics. And I now am a Tampa Bay Buccaneer fan, just to be clear as well.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah, you're with Brunswick. I'm a Brady, yeah, I'm a Brady guy. That's on your Super Bowl. Thanks, thanks. It's not even a trace of an accent, because Dave still has his. It'll pop. It's still there, but I don't hear it from you at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We're a little bit more refined in Haveral than they are in Swamp, Scott. Gotcha. Yeah. I don't know about that. I don't either. I actually don't know anything about that. So Pioneers. We love Pineers here.
Starting point is 00:09:12 We've filmed a lot of videos of Pioneers. We've done a lot of stuff there, clearly. You guys, it's your first anchor site that you've announced that you've done. a partnership with it's going to be there every five or six years up until what 2040? 2042 I think. 2042. What else goes into that deal? What are the other things that are part of Pinehurst and the USGA partnering together long term?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah, really exciting project. So obviously bringing the U.S. open there that frequently and naming the site that far into the future is a first for us. They're a wonderful partner. Bob Dedman, the owner, his family, Tom Pashley, the whole team. but even more than the U.S. opens, there's a number of other championships that are going to be played there on a regular basis. We're also going to have sort of like an HQ2.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So we're going to have a second headquarters. We'll have about 50 or so people that are going to be based there. We're going to have the test center. All the balls and clubs that you use that are tested in the U.S. right now are tested in New Jersey at our headquarters. We're building a brand new facility in Pinehurst, thanks to the state of North Carolina, which was kind enough to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And so all the testing in the U.S. is going to take place right in Pinehurst, North Carolina, which is really exciting. So that will open up in about two and a half years or so. So in addition to all these championships, we also have people that are going to be working there on a permanent basis. So is this going to be publicly accessible, this testing stuff? It is. Yeah, we'll do tours. We're also having a museum experience. We're going to try to highlight a lot of not only U.S. Open, but golf history there as well. So we famously want to match there.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Are we going to, is that going to be in the museum? Oh, that's a good point. I have to think about it. During a pandemic for charity, no less. Yeah, we'll have to think about that whether or not there's an opportunity there. No, it didn't say no. It didn't say no. Didn't say yes either, but I said, let's think about it.
Starting point is 00:11:00 We'll table it. You'll table it. Yeah. Absolutely. So is there any insight into other potential anchor sites? Like, are you guys, from the USDA standpoint, everybody's familiar with the British Open Rota. Like, is that sort of what we're looking at or where are we going? Well, we talk to players.
Starting point is 00:11:19 we talked to fans a couple of years ago, and it was clear from all of our stakeholders. They want the U.S. Open to go to fewer places more frequently, to go to iconic places that are synonymous with the U.S. Open and that have a lot of history. And clearly that's what the signals that we're moving towards. And so while I'm not prepared today to share where those next sites will be in the next, I don't know, four or five months, will definitely be in a place that will share that publicly. But you can expect fewer places more frequently, you know, a mix of, the classic iconic courses as well as some other places like Tori.
Starting point is 00:11:53 We want to celebrate municipal golf. This is an amazing place. I was out yesterday visiting the other two out of three municipal courses in San Diego. They're just phenomenal places. Parking lots full. People are playing golf all over the place. So it's also important to bring the America's championship to a municipal course or resort course as well as private courses. So we'll have a good mix of them.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But I think what you'll see in the near future is a much more defined. list of places that we go with the frequency condensed from where it's been in the past. I think my friend Lurch was looking at you like he had a question a minute ago. No, I was just, I was interested at your thoughtful answers. Yeah. Very thoughtful. Well, this is what's almost like he represents the brand. Very much so.
Starting point is 00:12:36 The testing facility. Yeah. Talk to me a little bit more about that. Yeah. So, right, I mean, right now, first of all, you guys should come out to New Jersey before that that testing facility goes away and the new one's built. Well, we'll come out to Pioneer, so I don't know about New Jersey. Jersey. I love New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah. I live right there. Yeah, come on out. Liberty Corner. He'll have you out there. Which is now a different country for him. Buddy, I now, you wouldn't believe how. I drove here. Don't be anti-New Jersey. But anyways.
Starting point is 00:13:01 117 degrees this week in Arizona. Literally, yeah. All, you know, a lot of the research science and innovation, turf grass, research, all that kind of stuff that we do to support the game and golf courses is all done. Not only in that facility with those folks, but also in our headquarters, the bulk of that is going to, as I said, it's going to move to North Carolina. But in the meantime, literally, we have Iron Byron.
Starting point is 00:13:25 You see this machine that hits balls out all day long, test clubs. Iron Byron? That's his name? Yep. The fucking robot that hits the balls? That's what he's been named, yeah. Come on. You got to check it out. Mimicked after, like, Nelson's swing?
Starting point is 00:13:39 You know, I honestly don't, I'm not going to try to fool you on this. I don't know the history. I should know the history, but I don't. I'll get that for you. I mean, I got to see this guy. It's amazing. So they got John Spitzer, the whole team over there, they do an amazing job. But they literally are testing for conformance all the products that golfers use, clubs, balls, everything.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So it all happens right there in New Jersey and will happen in your new hometown soon. Yeah. That's very cool. Yeah, because I wasn't sure what that really meant either. Like, you know, are you guys testing stuff all day? Every day? Is it just you do it once every year? Like, nobody really understands what all goes into that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 people instead just like to lobby attacks at you online. Yeah. Especially on Twitter about, you know, equipment, decisions, distance, and all that. So essentially you're saying this is where you guys are coming up with your... Yeah, look, when you're the governing body, you get feedback and we welcome that. We do. There's a lot of diverse perspectives. I think what's cool about it is everyone shares those perspectives in support of the game.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So, you know, it's up to us collectively to figure out which direction to go. But a lot of good work happens there. And, you know, also the turf grass research stuff. So, you know, the grass that's in your front yard, your backyard that the Kansas City Chiefs play on, all of that has benefited directly from the research done by the USDA there on that facility. So it's also pretty remarkable trying to figure out how to make grass grow better, less water, less resources, less pesticides, all those kinds of things. So that's another thing that we do at the USAA that a lot of people don't know about. So I can come down there with the new one and watch you guys test grass?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Sounds fun. Yeah. Testing grass is it like an instant? I'll be honest. Yeah, right. You're going to stand there for like six months? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't think you have the patience for that. No, a little change in humidity here. No, that is cool. And the byproducts of that, I would have never known that.
Starting point is 00:15:25 You said that there's been advancements and grass that they use for other sports and tour for everything else. Well, I mean, the whole key is to help golf course operators and owners dramatically reduce the use of water and of other resources. You know, and that then delivers value for the golfer, right? If there are less costly inputs in the front end, then the golfer on the back end isn't going to have to cover those costs and greens fees. And so it's really important work that we do in collaboration with a lot of different universities throughout the country. Player feedback. Usually, you know, I feel like we get a lot more chatter going into ES Open. That tends to lean negative about, you know, who knows what.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Depends on the venue, depends on the year. But I feel like this year, so far player chatter has been low. Do you guys feel like that? I haven't really heard much. I haven't seen any quotes come out in the last couple weeks or anything that have been like going after anything. How much are you guys monitoring that? Yeah, well, look, a couple of years ago, we built a player relations team led by Jason Gore with two guys. I think, no, you've met him.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Great guy, you know, was on the tour. Actually, he tried to qualify for the U.S. Open this year in Dallas, and I think it was pretty close. He played well. He just had, what, his knees replaced? Or hip? He had some surgery. Back? How he had a back surgery.
Starting point is 00:16:39 That's what it was. Yeah, but so great guy, and he knows the players. He is, was a player. So, you know, he's just having conversations that we frankly just didn't have before. So he's, you know, he's taken on board that feedback, and you're seeing it incorporated in terms of the player experience this week and course setup and other things. And so, you know. Yeah, because Trent's hero famously said you a lot, you know. Well, yeah, I mean, you guys are clearly setting up golf courses to put Zach Johnson out a disadvantage. I don't know if you want to address those allegations today, but, I mean, that's clearly happening on an annual basis.
Starting point is 00:17:10 That's a great question. Thank you for that one. Do you, oh, I got a question. Do you guys have a dartboard with Zach Johnson's face on it around the office? Wow. Well, he, um, this is the guy who's not watched Top Gun. True. True. I don't know the listeners should know that, but you and Jake Bass have never seen Top Gun? Yeah, and I've been pretending to get references for decades. I've never seen Godfather. Yeah, we're not just near a base. We're near Miramar. We're near the Top Gun base. Which I didn't know. You said right out there is where. or goose, you know, unfortunately passed.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I don't think many people would know that, though. Yeah, well, especially not a guy who hasn't watched Top Gun. Like yourself. Maybe. Maybe. Right there. Do you have a leather jacket? I once did.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I don't need more. Really? Yeah. People probably don't realize your Belgian roots. I did live there for a few years, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:01 That's kind of cool. I dig it. I think it's very cool. It's a great country. So overall, we're feeling good about the week. We do. We're excited. Again, have fans back here. You guys will see them start to trickle in.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Players are arriving. I mean, right over here on the left, viewers can't see it, but the range, they're warming up. We've got the short game area over here. Players are coming in, and so there's a lot of excitement building up. And, you know, we've been counting down the day, so looking forward to Thursday. All right, Craig, we appreciate it. Thank you. Oh, you have any insight into the parings? I don't. No, you'll have to wait for that. Maybe tomorrow you'll hear about that. Oh, Tuesday. Yeah, but it'll be Tuesday, sorry, but it'll be exciting. No, it's a good little teaser because all of our folks are listening now.
Starting point is 00:18:41 They should be frantically updating the website, Twitter, for updates on the Parings for the United States Open Championship. Yeah, check out USopin.com. And if you're so inclined, you can sign up for the Victory Club, which is free, which gives you all sorts of insider access and information. What do you get for the Victory Club? You get early access to tickets. You get great content. You guys know about content, right? I do.
Starting point is 00:19:03 You get great content. You get early access to tickets. Merch can you get merch as well, which is another specialty I know of all of you. So we're dabbling in it Some good stuff Merchandise tent right back here too If you guys want to go buy some stuff Would you buy?
Starting point is 00:19:15 I bought so I've been dying All these tournaments we go to All these golf courses we go to They never have hoodies Yeah Which is like what I like to wear When I'm not on a golf course And no one ever has them
Starting point is 00:19:25 But you guys You know you got a nice Torrey Pines U.S. Open hoodie that I bought I like that It's great, it's very comfortable It's on my list You're a little red one number You got on's nice too
Starting point is 00:19:34 Where their new trophy logo Trophy collection That's cool It's going to be available for the general public very soon. Online? Online. I'll let you know when. Yeah, we like a good merch plug for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, absolutely. All right, Craig Annis, Chief Brand Officer at the USGA. Have a great week. We appreciate it. Thanks for having us. Thanks for being out here. Thanks, Craig. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I appreciate it. All right, Taylor-Made golf. We were just talking a little bit about testing. We were talking about equipment. Well, we went and got fitted. We went and got the best equipment that there is in the world of golf. Thanks to our friends at Taylor Made. The Sim, too, is such.
Starting point is 00:20:08 a weapon and the best part about the damn thing that I've been that I've been noticing on the feedback on the DMs on the responses that I get is the sound of it. The SIM 2 sound, no matter how you actually hit it, no matter where you actually hit it, the thing sounds like you just hit a 340-yard missile down the middle every time. What do they say when we visited the kingdom? How many sound engineers do they have? 11. 11. One of my favorite statistics. It's so cool. It's really good. They thought of everything with that club. 11 is preposterous. How do you not just land on 10 or maybe you go to 15? They could have done it with three, maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:42 No, yeah, but 11 sounds way better. Like, I love the day of 11 as a tournament athlete, but they could have probably done it with three. But just think about, like, if you're like the manager, you think about human bandwidth, how many hits they can hear a day. And so, you know, a person can hear a couple thousand hits of the golf club a day. You know, you do a thousand. Yeah. That feels like possible.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I'm also picturing them sitting in the waiting room like they're waiting for an audition. where it's like, they're all just sitting around looking at each other. Like, are you a sound engineer? Like, yeah, I'm a sound engineer. That's my job. Why are we all here? And it's like, there's 11 of us here. Do you think they all listen to the same sound?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Do you think they treat it like a jury where it's like, if 10 of the, is there like a hung jury, and they're going to go back to the lab? I think that's where I was going. Like, they all listen to one sound, one driver hit the golf ball. Then they all provide their feedback, really get some thoughts on a paper. And then they come back and all, like, like, kind of vote on. I think you guys are close. I think it's got to be one and then like, oh, he's a really good sound energy ear.
Starting point is 00:21:41 He really knows about low ball flight sounds, you know, or something like that. Sound injured energy ear, is that what you said? Yeah, those guys are lethal. Barstlesports.com slash tailor-made. We have our own landing page. That thing's about to land, hopefully, because it'll be a little quieter, land safely. Also, there is an amazing amount of Raptors, F-22s, whatever you want to call them to. How much fuel that they go through?
Starting point is 00:22:03 No idea. But today's more than most. Maybe they're getting ready for something to Tories. Was you your grandfather a pilot? Can you tell us about that? Would you like to know about it? I didn't notice how many there were until we started doing the podcast. Like if we hadn't been doing something where we had recording devices in front of us,
Starting point is 00:22:18 I wouldn't have realized it, but as soon as we started recording, you hear a lot of them. Yeah. I mean, I would say this is the safest place to play golf. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. No bad guys are not going to be in a good place over here. Barswells.com slash Taylor made the tour responsible, by the way, is fantastic as well. I know it's summertime.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You're going out. You're getting golf balls. Maybe you don't want to spend the maximum amount. You get a golf ball that is extremely high quality, tour quality. It's called a tour response. So, barstualsports.com slash tailor-made. All right, gentlemen. Big thanks to Craig Joyne.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And we told the story if it did get a few times on a few different mediums, platforms of kind of how our relationship with the USGA grew. And there was that time when we were fighting with Whitney about the match, and the reason I brought that up is because, you know, shout out to our headline team. We've had the headline school at Barstle many times. Blogger school. Well, the headline team that day that was doing the serious accent crushes. I remember Craig, I think he just texted me and sent me a picture.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And it was just, it just said, fuck the USDA. And he's like, man, I really thought we were pretty good buddy. So we've had our ups and downs. But overall, ups, it's just been a few downs. The ultimate clickbait. Yeah. I may have to back the relationship with the Zach Johnson talk a little bit. He didn't want that one.
Starting point is 00:23:31 No, he didn't. No, that was funny, Trent. Okay. But I thought it was a great question because, like, yeah, I mean, To the public eye, they're longer, harder, and that's just way harder. It's harder for our boy kids. I mean, like, he gave honest feedback and being like, I can't win. I mean, it's just too hard.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Well, learn to hit the ball farther. Exactly. It's just, I don't know what to tell you. Come on, ZJ. Roll out there, too. It's like it helps to hit it farther. You know, sorry. That was when ZJ said, obviously, they've lost control of the golf course.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like, it was going to attack people. I got to give a shout out to trailer Phelms. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Has a longtime listener to the show. Great. Sent me a DM or maybe it was a tweet or something. something that I saw and I was like, oh, okay, well, I saw it. So now I have to give him.
Starting point is 00:24:10 What did it say? Just, Hey, Riggs, it's my birthday on Tuesday? Hey Riggs, big fan of the show. If on the next show, you could give me a shout-out because it's my birthday. That'd be awesome. When's his birthday? You know, I think he just kind of said generally, it's my birthday. So maybe it was the day that he tweeted at me, which was like yesterday. So happy belated birthday. Well, happy, like, I think a lot of folks now in the social media age are in birthday week, kind of. So it's just kind of. I don't love birthday week. I'll be honest. I'll just say happy birthday and whenever I was. Frank, he's a big birthday
Starting point is 00:24:37 week guy. Well, selfish guy. I mean, it'd be really off brand if we just buried him and sewered him. He's not here, but... He would respect that. He would never do that to anybody else.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I am a little surprised that we're wishing someone a happy birthday when we don't know the date. Well, I think that's part of it. We're just announcing that the earth is in a pretty similar position relative to the sun where I was when this person was born. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, really close. That works for me. Yeah. So happy birthday. Trail or Phelps. think that's his name. Trailer? Yeah, like that pulls something. Right, and how would you spell this name? It's a T-R-A-Y-L-O-R. And then Phelps like the Olympian. Right. And then another couple, we got, so now we've got a handful of our own little things that have happened to us over the last five days to go through.
Starting point is 00:25:25 The first one I'm going to say is behind the green. So that's going to come out Wednesday night, 8 p.m. Eastern Frankie and E-Bug. They flew out here last week to finish up. That's probably their, what, fourth trip out here this year? Something like that, yeah. job well done by those two of them been grinding. They've been got interviews with all kinds of different people footage, drone footage. They were like hang glide. The whole thing's ridiculous. So they even worked really hard.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And then they took a red eye flights back, I believe over Saturday or Sunday to get back so that they can edit it. And so that Frankie can live stream the Islanders, which is a monster right now. So that's why he's not here. But make sure you tune in because we won't do another show until Thursday. So make sure you tune in 8 p.m. Eastern on our YouTube channel behind the Greens. Episode three now? Yes. But this will be the second US Open one.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And the one last year was maybe the most impressive thing we've ever produced. And I would agree with that. And I've seen some of the footage from the Torrey Pines one, and it's the same level of quality. The video is going to be fantastic. So, yeah, Wednesday night, 8 p.m., behind the greens, Tori Pines. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Do you know if we're still going with that kind of like fight-themed music, too? Because I appreciated it that last time. Yeah, when it's like... The music was kind of like... It was almost like Gladiator, their first scene of Gladiator where you were going into the U.S.O. Yeah, well, there's a legitimate battle about to happen between the golf course. and all that are behind.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm sure it's similar to that. Frankie is very involved in the music part, so I'm sure he made it good. Yeah, he's like fucking Beethoven, scores his own, scores his own teasers. To the point where he is discussed, like setting up a little studio,
Starting point is 00:26:48 I don't know where, at the office or at his house or whatever, to like actually make the music. What a preposterous human being he is. That's great. But, man, I'm excited for behind the greens. They do a great job. So big credit to them,
Starting point is 00:26:59 and yeah, I'm excited to watch that. I have to give a shout out to Kevin Streal. Okay. So Kevin Streelman bought me dinner on Saturday night. No way. Well, I had a couple of friends that were inviting me to this steakhouse for a bite to eat and like a little nightcap, which is right near my apartment in Scottsdale. And I'd been out Saturday with a couple friends and I hadn't eaten dinner. Things got away me. I'm like, I'm like, I'm starving. But he's like, why don't you come here, get a bite and we'll have a drink?
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm like, all right. Well, I get there and Kevin Streelman's there at the table. Do you think we're closer to creating the shirt? Potentially. Are you telling me the man of Streel bought you dinner? It's a mandatory show now. So Mr. Manavisdriel himself, it comes towards the end here. And I had been, they had all finished their meals like an hour before I got there. And I'm starving.
Starting point is 00:27:44 We're at the steakhouse and I had a couple drinks. So I'm feeling like loose and like pretty liberal with my funds. And I'm like, I'm going to get a filet and like mashed potatoes. And a guy get, which is like $70. You know, something preposterousal. I'm like, I'm going to pay for it. It's good. Well then, you know, the check comes.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And he's like, yeah, just one like when I wasn't even paying attention. Thing comes and I pull some cash out. And I'm like, oh, let me pay it because I got it like thing. He's like, no, no, no, really? I went like, I ordered a preposter's meal. Yeah. And he's like, no, honestly. And he was super cool.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And he's like, I just say something nice about me. Ha, ha. We were kind of laughing. So Kevin Streel bought me like a $150 dinner on Saturday night. Man of Streel. Does he have any awareness of Man of Streel? None. Like, was he at dinner like that?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Dude, no. If he pulled, like, sometimes just wearing a jacket with like a t-shirt underneath and just opened it up and it just said the Man of Striel. Or I would even like, even if there's nothing under there. when he makes a big putt if he was like like Cam Newton Yeah, that'd be awesome Kind of thing that we get like men of Striegel shirts
Starting point is 00:28:40 And follow him around maybe Thursday Done, not bad I think we have to Done I think we have to just go in town And get someone to custom print us a couple shirts That's right That's easy
Starting point is 00:28:51 Right, we can do that Simple, super nice guy Like as nice as they come I believe it Yeah, he was great So big thanks to him That's what a story The Man of Striel
Starting point is 00:29:00 Just that right next to At dinner for like an hour and a half I knew he had something to him. Super friendly. Kind of like a sneaky, you know, dry, quiet, little sense of humor, but pretty funny. And just super friendly. He was great.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I want him on the show now. We'll get him on. Okay. Yeah. We'll definitely get him on. I'll tell you this. I think there's a good chance that on Thursday show that people will hear from the man of Striel. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Wow. We can make that happen. That is exciting. Uh-huh. I mean, I owe him some exposure now. I mean, he got some pip. Bop. Bont me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Got some pit points in my pocket. Exactly. Okay. Now, we've teased people long enough, but what they really came to this show for was Trent on the last episode of Forplay, golf podcast, play barstle sports. Sponsed by Owens. Trent crafted a direct message to a very popular player on the PGA tour, Ricky Fowler, which is his stablemate. Yeah. Yeah, stablemate. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Which is his stablemate. And you just tweeted out. out in the show business fashion. He has responded. I will reveal what he said. I don't even know this yet. I'm so excited. Well, yeah, because we all crafted this together.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Because what I had said was, I want, it was for selfish reasons, which most decisions are made. But I wanted Ricky Fowler to, when I break 100, when I break 100, I want to be congratulated by my stable mate, Ricky Fowler. Because I thought that would be really cool and that'd be really nice.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And you would congratulate him if he were to say win a golf tournament. Right, and that's kind of where we got to, where it was like you guys then asked me, like, well, have you ever said, hey, congratulations on all of your success or anything like that? And I said, no. And I was like, maybe we should DM him right now. Let's craft it together. So we did that. Here's the original deal. And what did you say to Ricky Fowler. Your stableman. Yeah. I said, hey, stablemate. I put in John Tiller in parentheses. Tough one this week, but we have things trending in the right direction. Loved what we saw at the PGA and the memorial. We got this man. Let's keep this thing rolling. Hashtag Tillgate. Which the hashtag Till Gang was a Trent creation that you floated by us, that we had initial shock reaction, but ultimately all agreed absolute. It's a great hashtag. Yeah, just because it's, you know, yeah, Frankie didn't like it at first, but then he came around on it. You guys were on board immediately, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:31:19 We were red hot on it immediately. Yeah, so hashtag Tillgang. So I sent that, I think we recorded Tuesday night. Wednesday afternoon, I get this response from Ricky Fowler. He said, ha, ha, let's go, man. Definitely heading the right way and back to just playing golf. Hard to find better people than Tillery. Hashtag Till Gang.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Whoa. Best clothes in the world. Bang. Hashtag Till gang. That's it. He's with you. Right. Well, we're all in this together.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Going in to that exchange, that is the best possible outcome of a response from Ricky. Right. Because my initial thought when we sent it was he's never even going to see it. Ever. He'll leave you on red, bro. Right. And then not only did he see it, he responded and used the hashtag hashtag tillgang. The fact that he also hashtag till ganged it is I would have never seen that coming. I thought maybe he would even have just liked it. You know how somebody just double taps like, like fuck I read it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And I got to respond to it. He hashtag till ganged you. I mean, I think you guys are coexisting now in the till gang. And I think he's down for it. Yeah, I feel good about it. Because I was never sure. where our relationship with Ricky Fowler was. It's been one of those spots where we can never guess. We're just kind of like, I don't know. Totally. You know, when we see him, we don't know. All that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 So to get that response from him, and for him to use that hashtag, I thought was very cool. Now, is there another T-shirt coming with just your two faces on, like, Mount Rushmore? With question marks left and right. Yeah. James Tilleri, looking at you guys? I wanted, we potentially might make Tilgang shirts. But I also, like, I would wear one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Kevin Kisner would wear one, hopefully. Hopefully Ricky Fowler would wear one. Anyone in under John Tilleries's umbrella. If Kiz had any space left on any of his merch, then we could put hashtag Till Gang on there somewhere. I would love for him to put it on his bag somewhere. Oh, yeah. He might do that.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Or on a towel. White embroidered Till Gang somewhere on there? We might have to talk about that. We could do that easily. Yeah. We'll bring an embroidery person next. We'll bring him out here tomorrow. Put it on Kiz's fucking bag.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Make men of streel shirts and make a Till gang. We will be the men of Streel. That's a great response. Oh, yeah. But I'm just, he's down to clown. Right. Which I appreciate. Typical fashion that this whole thing now has only arrived
Starting point is 00:33:42 another pressing question, which, what the hell do you say to that? Okay. So I did respond. Yeah. And with no help from this group, by the way. He had a lot of things going on, which we'll get into your part of it with Bryson and all that here in a minute. We didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:55 In that group, chat, that you clearly didn't see because you didn't know about that response. Because I immediately sent it to you guys. And you, yeah. And you did say, what the hell do I say? I was like, what is happening? And then you put your thing in there and everything got lost in the shuffle. And thank you for your service. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:14 So I was now doing it alone. I was doing my response alone. And how did that go? I'm going to say it and then you guys can be the judges. All right, all right. How much time did you give it, first off? About a day. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Okay. That seems like a long time probably to the listeners. but I don't, Ricky Fowler, he still hasn't seen the response that I gave it. Yeah, and you guys are, you were already on kind of a one day delay. Right. That was your average response time. Do you think that means he puts you in kind of general or where do he put you? Yeah, the fact that he hasn't seen, he hasn't seen this response.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But again, he's Ricky Fowler. Right. Yeah. He's just like, I'll throw this guy one bone. What'd you say? Okay. My response to Ricky Fowler was, glad to hear it, man. JT is the best.
Starting point is 00:34:59 He's helped me a ton with my game. Best of luck with everything going forward. You read it like you're 85 years old and you're a professor. I think it's really clean. Also, it's important to enunciate those types of messages because the wording, everybody's hanging on the pens and needles out there. Right. So that was my response.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I think you did a great job. Yeah, I did. Keep it clean. You know, you've made contact. You don't overdo it. You want to overstep. But you've established. And I think you guys are in a good place.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Right. And then in the future, should something come along where we may, maybe want to reach out to him to do something, an interview, or a four-man scramble, anything, I can be like, oh, he's in the Till gang. I can hit him up. Totally. You guys are in his table mates. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Shout out to John Tillery. Shout out to Ricky Fowler. We got to run into JT. We haven't seen JT yet. No, we have not. I got to see him in person for the first time since I shot 122 at Brookville Country Club. That's right. I'm all nervous to see your guy.
Starting point is 00:35:56 You know. It's going back into the, it's like getting. You ever fail a test? You had to get it signed by your parents. It feels like you've got to take your game and get it signed by JT right now. Well, listen, we were definitely in the honeymoon period when the original video came out. People like, oh, I love this stuff. This is great.
Starting point is 00:36:15 It's entertaining, but it's also informative. So you're living in a place where it's like, oh, people love this stuff. And then you have to go put it into practice on the golf course. Yeah. And it doesn't go all that well. No. That man's reputation is all that well. It is about his reputation.
Starting point is 00:36:30 That man's reputation. It's not about mine. My reputation doesn't matter. I don't have one. That man now could be known as the guy that took Trent from... Oh, Trent's shooting 104. That's cute. He's right there.
Starting point is 00:36:41 To like Trent shooting 122? What'd you do to him? Right. So, yeah, I just haven't seen... Did you break his legs off of his body? Like, how come he can't... Did you want to say 104 is cute or close? Was that just the wrong C word?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Oh, cute. I thought it's kind of cute. That is just the most polluting statement I've ever heard. I thought 104 was adorable. I think I do too. I thought we were a real cute zone. He's having a good time. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:37:05 He's not too, like, passionate about it. He's just kind of there. 122 is dark. 122 is more scary. And what was your back time? It was like a 70? Jesus Christ. So, yeah, I'm nervous.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I'm nervous to see JT. I'm nervous to see JT. Because he's going to be like, he's going to be like, hey, man, remember when you came down to Georgia and I taught you how to play golf in a better way. And what we said a lot in the video, Frankie and I, it was a lot of talk of this is growing pains. I just had surgery. Now this is physical therapy.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It's going to take a little bit. But still, I mean, no one has played the game of golf, genuinely tried to make impactful, noticeable changes, and immediately been better. True. It's always a, you get worse before you get better. You take a step back and then hopefully you take two or three forward.
Starting point is 00:38:00 That's kind of the whole. point when you change to be super uncomfortable. You got to get that muscle memory built up. You got to get comfortable with it. You got to be able to trust it. You got to have that's what our friend, our friend Hal Sutton was just saying, like, you got to be committed to the shot. When you got a brand new swing, can you really be committed over the ball? That being said, 70 is close to forgetting how to do anything in his life.
Starting point is 00:38:20 70s. But he is on nine-holes. You play Rikki. He plays nine holes. You play nine holes. Yeah. You shoot whatever he shoot. He's got to double his score every hole.
Starting point is 00:38:30 and you have a match. I don't like it. You would win. Here's the kind of guy JT. is, though. So I, the putting was a big problem in that video. For anybody who watched, it was a big, big problem. But very funny clip from your Georgia trip. Right. And then in the Georgia trip, we found the part where I said to JT with a straight face said,
Starting point is 00:38:55 if you were to ask me what the strongest part of my game was, I'd say putting. You know, I can't read Greens very well. but I can get the speed. I like this putter that I have. You know, I know what it's going on with my putter. And I tweeted that out. No caption or anything like that. Just, you know, make a light of the situation after I shot 122.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And JT. Quote tweeted that and was like, no, no, no, this is on me. We got to work on putting. We got to work on, you know, all these different parts of his game. It falls on me. And that's the kind of guy he is. That's a guy you want to work with. I saw that tweet.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Somebody hit you with the narrator. He did not know what he was doing. and that made me cackle out of it's a good tweet yeah again credit to you put the video out there you kind of you put it on tea for him and the guy you know knocked it out of the out of the park you do I mean our jobs you really open yourself up to criticism which I don't necessarily care about but like tips golf tips which we've talked a lot around the show oh yeah I've just been deleting all messages that I get I know people's hearts are in the right place but they're just like they are sending me non-stop being like hey instead of doing this do this instead of doing this
Starting point is 00:40:00 I understand that like that's part of golf culture, where when someone's really struggling, you want to help them out. I just... But it's not, though. It's like when I'm playing with rigs or we're playing together or we're all playing together, it's like, I'm not giving them a tip. You know, it's like, oh, you're doing this. Unless the person is in such a bad place that you're out there, like, asking for it.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. I think the difference is usually when people are on, you know, the internet or more so on TV, they're a world-class golfer. Right. this group ain't world class No We stink But so what my message
Starting point is 00:40:34 To those people would be that Like This guy only listens to John Taylor Yeah That's it That I was gonna say that That was gonna be my advice There's one
Starting point is 00:40:42 Don't listen to me Don't listen to lurch Don't listen to Frankie Don't listen to any Well you guys are actively We're doing against me Not to break 100 I know that's right
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah That's right No no I'm for it I know the series I wanted to go for forever We can just transition it To break you 90 I think it's a long game
Starting point is 00:40:57 To root for Trent Series is over But what you're doing right now is fantastic I know you're being genuine alert And I appreciate that and I also know on the flip side of that Riggs and Frankie are like They're getting on their hands They're getting on their knees at night and praying
Starting point is 00:41:11 When that 122 text came in I mean I was very happy Right No part of me was like oh I'm bum for trail I was like oh we got a series It's even worse that you guys pretend to do it You guys go oh no And like a sarcastic amount of O's and it's like
Starting point is 00:41:27 All right well I you know this isn't even a safe place anymore. For the record, I actually, when I did text that, I thought I was texting it from a genuine place. But I immediately, when you called me out for that being really sarcastic, I was like, that's actually the place that subconsciously that it came from. Right. Yeah. I understand it. But, you know, we're, the 122, I'm not a 122 golfer. No, no, no. I'm just, that's just not what I am. So, you know, we're going to keep. You're a way better athlete than 122. I know. But we're going to keep working at it. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Putting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, we went to Australia two years ago and going into that trip, everyone's like he's going to do it on this trip. Right. That's two years ago. Yeah, and I just never. Did it? No, no, definitely.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Way to take his words right out of his mouth. I never did it. But also. That was me. It was a gun punch. I mean. I've earned it. I, like, we're obviously always trying to get better.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Like, that's just as a golfer, you always want to get better. But I was never, like, really trying. I would just go play. Right. And I'd go to the range. But your swing was like so, it was pure enough on that little cut that I was like, he's just going to do it. He's going to make enough pars and bogies that like he's just going to get under a hundred.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. And you're right. You never actually worked on it. So this is the first time you're actually trying to get better. And I would say that had you kept on the other path that Lurch's talking about, I think you would have broken 100, but it would have been close. And you wouldn't have lived in a place much lower than that. I think you're now on a path that you can get to a place where you live in like the 80s.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I think that's very reason. I agree. You know what I mean? But you would have never gotten there just kind of clinging to like the skeleton of a swing and bullshit that you were doing before. Like you were close to getting to like 90 something, but... I'll be honest. I mean, I'm rooting for you? Yeah. If we're talking living in the 80s versus 122, there's plenty of work to be done here. I mean, I'm the biggest pro.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I want you to do it all time, but I think we got a temper expectation. Now there's support coming from over here. I only put my Michael closer to years here. No, I'm just trying to be. be realistic. I think 70 is near close to 80, you know. I will say, Wriggs, when you said, living in the 80s, it sort of like took my breath away.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I don't think that's that crazy. I mean, I've seen you get out there and you hit, like, every fairway. I think that your issue with your last thing was, like, you didn't compress the ball at all. So, like, even if you would hit a million fareways, like, the irons were, they couldn't get them in the air a lot of times. You hit way behind the ball. And then around the greens, it was like kind of, whereas I think now, like,
Starting point is 00:43:58 like you're going to be able to, you're already like improved with the driving. You're like hitting 280 bombs. It's going a lot further. Pretty straight still. Yep. And you're able to like compress the iron. So I think that like getting more reps in with that, I don't think it's that crazy because we've all played rounds with you where guys have looked over and been like, when's the last time
Starting point is 00:44:16 Trent had like a double? He's just making pars and bogeys all over the place. And I'm pretty sure when you had that up, it's somewhere in the 80s. So I will say, I think that, well, I think it's more likely you become an 80s golfer than a 120s golf. I hope that's true. I think it is. Shout out to everybody who's watched as well.
Starting point is 00:44:33 What's that? Next episode comes out Thursday night? No, the following Thursday, the 24th. Okay. Because we've got our Torrey Pines video coming out. We've got behind the greens coming out. And then we've got our full round of Tori, which was filmed before I saw John Tilleri. I'm going to make that extremely clear.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I'm actually going to ask Brendan if he'll put a disclaimer at the beginning of that video. Just so people know, because the timelines are all screwed up because we came out. for media day a couple months ago, whatever. And then the following Thursday, which I believe is June 24th, that will be the next episode of Breaking 100. That's my birthday, by the way. Oh, my birthday. Oh, my gosh.
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Starting point is 00:45:45 And if you were going to say, here's some vitamin B, what does that do for you? I want that too. What does it do? Makes me smile. Any idea? Makes Trent smile. I was hoping you guys have the answer. Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:45:57 Pull it up. I mean... Do you know what it does? No idea. Vitamin B. Well, I bet if they put it on this list, it means it's good for you. Yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I mean, eat your vitamins. Isn't vitamin D like the Sun one? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what B is, though. What a risk you ran there. No, no, no. Why?
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Starting point is 00:47:27 Okay. What vantage point or angle is that image and thought? Weird. My gut, my honest answer. What you're looking at it right now? In your head, you're looking at your own golf swing. What's it? Where are you standing when you're looking at that?
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm behind myself, okay? I'm perpendicular to myself, I guess. I'm standing on the opposite looking back at me. Like, I'm looking at you right now, but I'm, you. Okay, so you're down at the ball. Okay, so you're looking at your head head on. Unlike Trent, I do down the line. Which made me start thinking,
Starting point is 00:48:00 how come none of us ever think about our golf swing from the vantage point of you are you taking the golf swing? First person. Right. No, I always think down the line. Me too, always. You guys think down the line? Yeah, like what it looks like from behind.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Never thought about that angle once in my life. Just because I've been watching. That's how you watch golf. Yeah, on TV. No, I always think about it like this. you're thinking about it like when you watch film of your swing no but you're hold on lurch you're saying right here you're looking at it
Starting point is 00:48:28 like your chest is looking at the yeah right here so weird really that's the only way I've ever thought of it then you kind of think about like how how far it goes to perpendicular and stuff I'm trying to think like what do you like when you think about it that way because like when I look from behind I always think about when they get it in the slot and stuff I think about that you know what I mean that look that visual from the tour guys when they show on camera I never think about that once I only think about
Starting point is 00:48:50 impact. When I think about my golf swing, it's always at impact. I will say, I think most people will have your answer, Lurch. I almost feel like no now. I think they're all going to have a large. I don't know. But what I was thinking, because I was at the range last night, I was hitting a couple balls. And I was thinking about some stuff that I've been trying to work on. And as I was thinking about those things, I realized that I was
Starting point is 00:49:10 immediately not even, the image of my brain wasn't even of me standing here over the ball. It was actually out of body, removed, and standing behind me where the cameraman would be standing on PG tour. And I thought in my head, why the fuck would I not be thinking about my swing from the viewpoint of me over the ball? Because that's how you can actually do it. I guess the only thing that I would say about that is when you're trying to think about your swing in a different way and how to improve it, you're trying to look at it from a different angle. Like if you're thinking,
Starting point is 00:49:39 all right, I'm in the first person. This is how I swing. Like you're not be able to come out of it and look at it. You're just in there. I will say, are you posting driver swings these days? because you think he've really found something? Because I will say, I've seen two videos now, and they look way better. That's why I'm doing it. But I just want you to get in front of this one. That's why I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Now, in my defense, I have posted many really bad stuff. Right. The last two I've seen looked like you should be playing in the tournament. I found something. I texted. So I was getting ready to play. Max invited me out to Silver Leaf on Saturday. And Friday, I was at the range.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And we've been on the road for like, so Saturday was the first round of golf I played in probably over two weeks, which for me is like forever long. There's a few times I've snuck out and played one hole and filmed it for the rig first or I've done the daily nine. But a lot of times those are just you run out with nine balls. You hit nine puts real quick. You fold up the fucking camera equipment.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You get back and you keep going because we've been doing Barstall classics and everything. So I just hadn't played many rounds of golf. So I got home Wednesday night. Wednesday night we had a bender. We were the whole Barstall Classic team. There's like six or seven people that kind of go at every stop. And we've been going all over the country and it was like 85 or 88 in Austin, but felt like 1.30 because of how humid it was.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And then we drove five hours to Lake Charles, got there. And we had the Thursday stop at Lake Charles at La Berres, which is Penn Property, great casino. So Wednesday was like kind of the almost the end of the road trip, not quite because we had the event the next day, but almost the end. So long story short. La Bearers, we had like a cabana at the pool and then a big desert reservation. So we got after it Wednesday. Had just an awesome time. Got like two hours of sleep.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Woke up Thursday, did the Barstle Classic all day. We were like chit-chat with people. It's really hot. Then drove three hours at the airport, then flew three and a half hours home. So Thursday I got home, got $18 worth of Taco Bell on the way home. Passed out until like 10 a.m. on Friday. And then Friday, I really didn't have that much to do it. So I was like, I'm going to like dingle, dattle around, go to the range and actually like work on some stuff because I just like haven't a while.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And I actually, during that range section, I texted Max. I knew we were playing the next day. And I said, I said to him, I have something controversial to say. He said, do it. I said, this is exclusively off a range session, not course tested yet, but I think I figured out golf. And he said, yes. And then I said, the chair thing, man, I think we're on to something. And he said, let's fucking go, baby.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I think you are too. So the chair thing I picked up. That's why I told this story was so I give people a tip ultimately. Or at least tell people the tip. people love that stuff like when kisner gave you the knuckle thing exactly they do yeah max was telling caleb presley when we were all playing together like a month ago yeah i overheard him saying this to caleb he's like i want you to feel like in your back swing like you are sitting down in a chair and i took that tip so just just to be clear when you go back your cheeks
Starting point is 00:52:41 instantly go down yes almost exactly like you're preparing to like sit yourself into a chair and that what is that supposed to give you more rotation that's like the sensation that he told me, that he told Caleb that I stole and didn't even think about, and then like, and like a week later or something, I was on the course struggling, and I was like, you know, I'm going to just do that thing. And I hit four shots in row that were just striped. And then I didn't get to play golf for like two weeks or whatever. And then did this rain session.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I was doing it. And I was just striping the ball. And I was like, oh, my God. I think I figured out caught. Huh. That tips a no for me. I just did one of those that's just a no for me. Dude, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I don't think about anything else. I just do that. And all of a sudden, it looks better. I've been hitting the ball really well. I'm just not sitting in a seat I think the seat's too low for me maybe for you guys Briggs you're closer to the seat
Starting point is 00:53:27 It doesn't say sit in a chair It says feel like you're sitting in a chair We're getting down If that's the So Yeah To me it feels like you just And this has been a big part of my game now
Starting point is 00:53:39 With JT is activating the lower body And it does feel like it starts that process In a positive way Right It might not work for everybody But I'm telling you And especially my driver has been unlike anything I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And we went to the course the next day, Silver Leap, I drove it fantastically. Well, tips are so weird because, like, we spoke earlier, everybody hates tips. I don't give me a tip why I'm playing. Now you get a tip and you find some success. People want tips. So it's like, it's this.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Halfway through that I felt like a hypocrite. Because I'm listening to a tip that's being given to every segment of this show. I feel like I will say. When you're a tip guy, when you're collecting tips and you're open to tips, usually your golf games in a horrible spot. Like usually Like not to be I feel like you're pretty actually
Starting point is 00:54:22 Receptive of tips Like you one guy told you One guy told you You heard somebody say Strength of your grip And you started gripping the club So your fingers were bleeding Well that's because I was pulling
Starting point is 00:54:33 Every golf ball So he was like You just got to strengthen your grip That was very funny So I was just holding as hard as you could And the things were going even further left So my golf game was in a bat Yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:54:43 Exactly no It's a different type grip Yeah no I feel like to put tips in play though I'll take a tip, but again, if my golf game's in a bad spot, like then, I was like, I need to change my grip because I can't hit anything even closely to the right side of the course. Michael Breed telling you to take the angles out of your putting stroke. But I'll take a tip at that time. Okay. Don't tell me how to hit an iron currently.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I think I'm hitting them pretty good. Yeah, you do a great iron player. But anyways. It's past weekend. The reason I've been posting those videos is because I think my driver's swing is really especially. And my irons, I'm hitting much better too. It's just a little bit different. I've got to dial that in still.
Starting point is 00:55:15 But, man, my driver's been on point. Right. I just thought, I knew there was a reason. You were talking about the range. I saw two videos escape, which usually, you know, you're fair. You post, you're an average swing. Good, bad, ugly, whatever. But these last two felt like they were a position in a way that was like, no, no, I'm on to something. Well, he's also just off of having his swing shown in 4D. And I'm sure that people weren't like, you know, super positive about that. But see, they're not, no. No.
Starting point is 00:55:45 So if you start having good driver swings, you're like, I'm going to put these out there just so people know that I can still swing a golf club in a good one. Yeah, it's a little bit of a spin zone. It's fair. That's right. And we've got another one coming up. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Going to do 4D here at. So I think by probably Wednesday or Thursday, folks will see because Cisco is going to have on the U.S. Open app as well, the ability to go in and see all the player swings in 4D. So in order to promote that a little bit, we work with Cisco. They're great. It's Cisco WebEx, which we're not doing right now because we're just in person. But it'd be weird if we did that because we're just standing right next to each other.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It would just be more tech, unneeded tech. Yeah, that's right. But their tech's great. We're going to put our swings out there in 4D. How do you guys feel about that? Fresh off of 122, I'm nervous. That's my, those are my true thoughts. I mean, I know my swing is foul.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Like, it's just not right. Like, it's not the proper way to hit a golf. Nobody ever said, take an iron out, pretend it's a shovel, and throw it at the golf ball. So, like, I know mine's wrong. Well, have some fun with it. Yeah. We'll see how much fun you guys have with it.
Starting point is 00:56:50 We're going to find out. You get a lot of fun with Bush now with the wingman. It has totally revolutionized my golf experience. The wingman. You just pull that thing out of your bag every time. Sink it up to the app, which takes two seconds. Slap it onto the bar with that bite magnet. Is that what they call it, right track?
Starting point is 00:57:05 It's a bite magnet. It just bites onto the bar. Makes me think of a lion or a tiger biting onto something. Yeah. That's what it makes. makes me think of because it really does stay on there. It doesn't matter if you're going down a hill, bumpy hill, wherever you're at on the golf course,
Starting point is 00:57:17 that thing is going to stay on your golf cart. You know what my favorite things to do with this thing right now is? Been in a lot of hotel rooms. Bring it with me. Find the doorframe or something metal between like the bathroom and the actual bedroom of your hotel room. I just slap it on there and then it almost is surround sound for me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeah, it's really nice. This thing's great. It's got 10 hours of battery life, so it last 36 holes. It's got great sound quality, as we've talked about. You hit the little button. It gives you yardages at any point in the golf course. You sync it up to the app, and it gives you a visual bird's eye view of the hole. So you know exactly what you're looking at.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And it's just a really, really good device. And something that's sneaky. You go to bushnellgolf.com slash four and pick yours up right now. Bushnellgolf.com slash four. But, look, you're familiar with this feature where you can go on and you can give it a command to say? And then when you hit the button, it says whatever you wanted it to say. So I haven't played with this just yet, but I know that it's out there. You can chirp people.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Which is fun. Yeah. But I haven't done that yet. Have you? I actually have not put that feature into play yet. My favorite is really the flyover. We all play a ton of new courses. That app, you just like, oh, no, you never play them either.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And then you like do your flyover and then your buddy hits in the water. You're like, oh, who knew that water was there? Yeah. I did. I got the Bushnowee, man. I went to Bushnogoff.com. You didn't. So go to that link.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It's a good time. Lurch, you were just at Pebble Beach. I was. A little getaway. It is. A little getaway. Can you tell me the first T story that you told me? Oh, yeah, sure thing.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, so, woo-ee. Anyways, a little getaway, great guys, Ernie, Josh, Connor, great people. Good crew. Great crew. DBC crew. Dad-Bod guys, yeah. Very much so. I would say three with a real dad-bod body.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Ernie, not as much of that dad-bod. He's a slender guy. Yeah. But they are part of the dad-bod. Bad Bad Classic. For anybody listening, that we've talked about the Dadbot Classic so they know a little bit about the personnel on the trip. It's a whole DBC crew.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Oh, yeah, I wasn't saying that they had DadBods. I did come off that way. Yeah, that's what I thought. But, yeah, Riggs out of the necessary context. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, so I got a long travel day. I think I left Chicago at 4 a.m.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Make my flight. Anyways, get out to Monterey. Sight. Don't check in my room until the end of the day because we're kind of drinking. can carry on, just being excited for the next couple days of our lives. Perfect time. Anyways, we have kind of late night. I might go back to my room at like 1.30, something like that.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Stumble in, pass out that night, and I haven't opened the windows yet. And, you know, I tend to sleep in the nude. So, anyways. I always sleep in the nude. I do as well, by the way. It's the best way to sleep. Just a little fun fact about me. I actually mix it up between, you know, that, that pair of,
Starting point is 01:00:10 or those Tommy John pajama pants that gave us? Yeah. A lot of times I wear just those. But I'm on the road so much if I forget to pack them which is frequent
Starting point is 01:00:19 then I'll just sleep in the nude. Right. Those are top notch. Oh, you're pretending to be in the nude that's right. You're just embarrassed of your own body. Somehow more...
Starting point is 01:00:28 So, anyways, I wake up the next morning for anybody that saw my Instagram stories this weekend they know exactly where my room was. I open up the blinds, ass naked, and throw them apart just to see what's out there.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Like a movie seat. And then, lo and behold, there are four people on the T-box just 25 feet from me. Looking right at me. This is the first team. With their tatties, the whole bit. Right. First team at Pebble, you're about to have maybe the best golf experience of your life. 100%.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And then who's there? This ogre of a body that's just ass-naked. So I threw them open and looked and just. panic shut them both. You know, so that was my start. That story made me laugh. That's a funny visual for just, and also the confidence of you to be like, hey, I'm naked, but I'm open to these blinds trying to get some light in here.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Somebody said like, oh, it's on the first stairway. These are the windows. It was like French door. But I mean, never mind. There was. But I'm saying that her two-way street. Like when you open the window, it's like that's, that could, like, unless there's a a building on the other side, immediately, like, there's a decent chance on the other side of the
Starting point is 01:01:39 know someone's been able to see you in. Yeah, but I was so, somebody said, oh, yeah, you're on the first fairway. So I was thinking, like, I'm just looking out to the, you know, the first corner there at Pebble Beach. And I was like, great, nothing. And then I threw these things open, who shut those quickly to try to preserve that experience. And then if they're one day lucky enough to play Pebble Beach, I hope that happens for you. I want you to look over at that little, what do you got like a bungalow or. Yeah, it was just the second story right off the first tee.
Starting point is 01:02:06 So if you're playing the whites, I mean, man, you're. not 20 feet from my room. Just be glad that you don't see a butt-ass naked lurch, just letting the day in. You really got lucky if you don't see that. If you go play Pelop Beach and you didn't see that, you got lucky. But you might see it. You never know.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I hope not. So how'd you play? I actually played pretty long. It was like standard. You know, hit it really well, didn't put well, you know, shot a low 80. Yeah, it's pretty standard. That's good stuff. That's the large golf experience.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, exactly. Welcome to it. It's frustrating. as hell. Sounds fantastic. Well, 80s, I mean, well, as a guy who's soon going to be living in the 80s, I look forward to that. Per, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:47 From your sources. Per rigs barstool. Okay, U.S. Open. We're going to, big thanks to Craig, obviously, coming on, but we'll talk a little bit about the field. A couple things going into it. Probably the biggest one is Phil Mickelson, who's a local guy, who's finished second runner-up at the U.S. Open six times, but never won it.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He's got six major championships now. Um, he has won at Torrey Pines before. And now he will be coming here as the most recent major champ as a 50 year old. Matt, does he always his birthday during US open week. Yeah, people always sing a happy birthday. Birthday is probably coming up pretty soon. So it'll be 51 pretty soon. But Phil coming into Tori, um, with the chance to complete the career grand slam win
Starting point is 01:03:30 his seventh major and finally get that US open. It's one of those things that had you told me four weeks ago, you know, that that'd be a story I would have said it's infinitely more likely that he misses the cut than that he finishes top, what, 15, even, you know, and instead, he comes in as the most recent major champ. Right, it's... His birthday's on Wednesday, by the way. Oh, wow. Really? Quick facts by T-Bof-1.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Good job. Google. Yeah, I mean, if you were going to be on the Barstville sports book and you were looking at a place of wager, it feels, I can't tell which side's dumber. to be Phil's going to win this thing or he's going to miss the cut? Yeah. Yeah. I think winning is dumber. You do?
Starting point is 01:04:15 I think, look, Phil's just a missed the cut guy. Like, it's not, when you look, he could be in contention or he could be 13 over, and you wouldn't be surprised either way. So winning it, I mean, yeah, I guess winning it is so impossible. It's just hard to win. 100%. But, like, the upside on winning is plus 25,000 again or whatever. it's going to be for old Phil. Dude, he's going to be, yeah, I would imagine,
Starting point is 01:04:41 so I'm going to pull it up right now. See you have the highest odds of anybody winning the last major of all time? I wonder what they were. I don't even know on the partial sportsbook. I don't know exactly. But I imagine, I mean, now, going into it, he's not going to be as ridiculous, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:56 as he was being the local guy, but he's still not in any way is he considered like a favorite. He's 66 to 1. Right. Yeah. You know? Like, that's a payout.
Starting point is 01:05:06 that's a payout for the guy again that just won and he you know he's hitting the ball far he was able to like he I don't know I don't know if he was if he's able to win at Kiowa right like you're hitting it pretty far and pretty straight in order to do that it's not crazy to think that him with his local knowledge um but then again if he just missed the cut by 15 shots yeah right totally of course he did yeah he peaked I can't imagine we're living in a world where Phil Mickelson wins two majors in a row No. In 2021. That'd be crazy. I mean, it's been a weird year. Yeah, it's been a weird two year.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah. It's been a weird, we've been on a weird run. But like... Would that be the best storyline that we could get out of this? Yeah. Or would Brooks versus Bryson? Oh. Final group.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Coming down the stretch. I'm still... I understand people want, you know, they want the Brooks and Bryson pairing on Thursday. They want the USGA to make that happen. Or they want, or like the scenario we had talked about, like you're saying, They actually play well enough where they end up in the final group at a major. I think that's going to take a lot out of the whole rivalry. Because they're not going to do anything.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Nothing's going to happen. Maybe, you know what I mean? So then would you put them Thursday? Just because it's so rare that they'll ever be to capitalize on everything that's gone on, do you put them together on Thursday? Because the risk is that they'll never actually be one-on-one in a major coming down the final stretch. I actually don't care either way about the pairings. I just know that the most entertaining stuff from this rivalry is going to happen on social media.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It's never going to be more interesting than that. People want them to meet on the first tee when they're paired up together and, you know, exchange looks and then maybe get into a fight. But it's like, it's just not going to happen. They would shake hands. They probably wouldn't say a word to each other all day and that would be it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Like one of them will beat the other by three or four shots like they usually do it around a golf and everyone would be like, oh, all right, that was cool. And then as far as we know what the rivalry, it's not over. but it's like it reached a point that everybody wanted it to reach and with nothing happening I think it would cool off. You had an interaction with Bryson on social media. Yeah, Bryson shared my Instagram story. How'd you feel about that? What was that?
Starting point is 01:07:23 So you made some good points. I'll be honest, I did kind of set it up to be shared. Of course. Yeah, it was. Welcome to the game. Correct. It was a little bit of like, I think if I write this and tag those guys, there's a chance to be like, oh, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And it was. But also, I think that it was, that was like something I would have said. on the podcast, which is in that environment, you're able to say it more articulately because you're able to just take your time. But it was true because we've gone, I don't want to say back and forth, but we've had a lot of opinions on the whole Brooks Bryson thing that could make it seem again like we're instantly contradicting ourselves, being like, oh, we're kind of over it, but also we love it. Look, I think undoubtedly it's good for golf.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I think it is transcendent golf. I think on ESPN and people that typically only follow golf at the, you know, Masters or the U.S. Open Championship, you know, are now, like, well aware of this Brooks-Pricson thing. Parcel Rundown, they talk about it almost every time it happens. There you go. Barometer for any legitimate news store. So I think there's just no doubt that it is transcending the game a little bit, which is great. It's fantastic for golf.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Now, as people that follow it pretty closely, you know, day in and day out, talk about it twice a week for an hour and a half, two hours every time. Like, we just thought it got to a point where it got a little bit corny. now that's not doesn't mean it's bad like for the game it's still cool it's still good i think they still don't like each other but it got a little bit corny with some of the responses when when brooks brought the ad in like i thought that was corny and we went all through that stuff so um but ultimately when i when i saw um the comments from brooks and and now they've both been environments where they've been asked about it just directly at pressures where they've just been asked like well what do you think and brooks said like i think it's good for the game and and i was thinking
Starting point is 01:09:05 And I was like, you know what, it is. It is good for the game. It gets people involved. It's interesting. The game should lean into rivalries, not like tried to basically smother and recover them up, which kind of feels like that's what the tour is always done. Yeah. And then Bryson shared it, which clearly he feels the same fucking way.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yeah. It's good for the game. It is. If you take your, if you take like you're not picking a side or you're not doing whatever, it's like people are talking about this sport more than they have, you know, recently. And you need Like you can't We used to mock all the time
Starting point is 01:09:41 Your stable mate was one of these guys Who like when somebody would win You know a tournament or a major That like they wait for all their buddies And they all shake the guy's hand It's adorable for the first time But at the end of the day It's a lot cooler than that
Starting point is 01:09:54 Is if like it's reported that the two other guys That finished second like declined to talk to the media And they're fucking pissed And like you know what I mean Like that's better for the sport Yeah You need more than a pitching wedge gets stuffed by a hundred yard like and then like to an inch tap in and the guy wins a golf
Starting point is 01:10:09 tournament like the storylines between golfers is what drives it and you need to promote that because you know as a storyline guy Trent like you want to I mean you want the next storyline you want to know what's going on with the players you want to know that you know he's pissed off and he stormed off and like why did he storm off and I think that's what makes it interesting and like when when the books about tiger came out or when Hank Haney wrote his or when our you know our buddy Armin Coutain, who wrote that book. Yeah, I can't remember it. Whatever the, whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:38 It was about Tiger Woods. He made a documentary about it, too. Good back. Based on it, yeah. His face on it, and it was, it's kind of like the face of Tiger Woods. Very good. Very, very thorough. Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 01:10:49 That's the name of the book. You're right. So if you're looking for that, that's what you call it, if you want to search it in Google or books or whatever. But what they, some of the stories they would tell in that were of when Tiger would, like, make a little side comment to, Stevie about like Phil or something And you were like oh fuck you like that is the juiciest stuff That is when you're like that is raw That's the stuff you never get to see
Starting point is 01:11:11 That's the stuff that like you know is in there And you know and we've talked about There's what 200 something players that have like PGA tour status You put 200 people of all kinds of different backgrounds Or different countries that have different personalities They're not all gonna fucking like each other It's not you have five people We go on a road trip we're like really good friends
Starting point is 01:11:28 We all go on a road trip for four days We fucking hate each other So it's like you get these people that are playing together 25, 30 weeks a year that are also competing for money and livelihood and sponsorship dollars and now pit points. Like, there just are people that do not fucking like each other. And we don't know about any of them, except now we know about, like, one of them. I want to know about all of them. You too.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Totally. You know, and you are right that the tour has made an effort over the years to not show that stuff. But, like, and I get why to a degree, but also if you start showing more of that stuff, interest is going to explode. Totally. I mean, it's like the NHL, you just have to be fan of hockey. You know, it's like, well, no, I want to be fan of this person or that group of people because the way that they play.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And golf, if they just allow that, they can because each player is almost a team or the way they play or their personalities, how they go about it. You know, you can get behind that and you can create fans within the game and, like, they like people, they don't like others. And I think that's only good. And it's cool. Like, you can tell in hockey that, you know, the team's almost. almost forced themselves to hate the other teams quickly, right?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Like in the first scrum of the first shift of the first game of a seven-game series, they're like, you know, they're face washing the other guy. And they're getting his glove up in his fucking nose and in his teeth because, like, you want to create that hate because hate drives like the passion and the fire and you want to get out there and you play with that emotion and that makes you play at a higher level. And it's like that with football. With basketball, it's much more natural in the game golf, it's not. Because they say, they highlight all the time the fact like,
Starting point is 01:13:01 I'm not playing against the other guys. I'm playing against the golf course. It's like, you can't, what are you out here fucking hating the golf course? Like, yeah, they are. They actually bitched the USGA. That's how they get around it. But ultimately, yeah, that pussy. But ultimately, they clearly do not like each other.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And I, you know, and again, not to be like hypocritical, but it does feel good that a couple of them have channeled it at each other now because you know that that animosity has to exist. Right. Just has to. ZJ is looking for a pitching puck. each one Hey Craig Can we make this a pigeon pot Make this a real golf course
Starting point is 01:13:35 What the hell just happened We're talking about Brooks and Bryson No We're talking about being critical To like the air of show I will storm off of this show I will storm out of it And look at that
Starting point is 01:13:45 It hasn't even been an hour We already hate each other Yeah right yeah No it's it's all good And we're so close to it Because it's the sport that we cover That at a certain point We do have to say like
Starting point is 01:13:55 Oh I like Brooks more Oh I like Bryson more But if you take two seconds and zoom out, it's all good for the game. Totally. How about we're just looking at the Pacific Ocean right now? This is a cool spot. Do you think Frankie would know what that is?
Starting point is 01:14:08 No, no. I also love, though, T-Dady's first comment of like, it's beautiful behind us. I know, we got the clubhouse. We got a couple sides. Yeah, that was stupid. I'm one of those stupid people you hear about. Oh, right here. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 01:14:52 which is one word at checkout. You save 15%. That's code 4-play, checkout, 15%. It gives you your sleep. which is huge. I'm an 81% today. Long travel day yesterday. Those cross-country flights, they're just, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:04 It's a little. Yeah, they wear you down. Yeah, they wear you down. So I probably fell asleep. Well, I can tell you. I fell asleep at 836 last night, which was 1130 East Coast time. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:15 But then I just slept in, I'm not at 81%. What time did you get up? Let's see here. 620. Okay. Yeah. I got 71%. Anytime you're in the green,
Starting point is 01:15:24 it almost feels like you got like a shot of a of healthiness right like prepar like you were just shot with like oh you're good to go today because i look at that i'm like oh it's like a drug right yeah really good drug right it's good healthy drug it's healthy which are common uh-huh um i'm at 71 percent guess what time though my sleep i went to bed at 1037 got up at 423 well i decided to drive here so i got it got it got it um not a bad drive actually about five and a half hours yeah that's terrible phoenix i almost thought about doing that the other day Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah. As I was flying down from Monterey, there wasn't too many direct flights. I almost did that. Flew to Phoenix. Yeah, I was originally, I had been slated to fly. But I was like, you know what? Door to door. It's really not that much different.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I probably would have saved an hour and a half or so each way. See a little countryside. See a countryside. You're able to, like, stop and go and pee. You're not like, you know, schlepping around the airport. I got all these bags with me, which I was going to have to check anyways. And now that we're here, I have my car. So it's like, we want to buzz to a course or arrange or hit balls or go to dinner or whatever to do with cars.
Starting point is 01:16:27 You have a car. just general things that you do with the car. I can now do that. We can get in it and it will take us some ways, which is pretty incredible. You just sold us the value of a car. I'm a car salesman now. I'm actually, I was thinking the other day about how ridiculous cars are. That we just have these machines that every one of us pretty much has or has access to.
Starting point is 01:16:51 That you simply just get in it and you can go anywhere really fast. That's crazy. Like you could never do that ever and then now you can just do it Well think about when you turn 16 how freeing that is I remember that feeling like when you're 15 you're like you're like I'm just stuck here But I can I know that there is is a vehicle that is in that garage that once I turn this age I can just get in it and go wherever I want anywhere I can go anywhere hear those things above us you know to talk about flight going somewhere real fast
Starting point is 01:17:23 Yeah but I personal aircraft harder harder harder harder barrier Oh yeah big time you know Almost no barrier entry to a car. Very little. I wouldn't say no. I said almost no. It's very little. It is.
Starting point is 01:17:35 You have to make a very small car payment or you can get a cheaper car and you can pretty much just like the license to get like the license to even partake and drive a car. Oh yeah. The barrier is very very little. Which is actually scary when you think about it. Would you have to get like a 70 or something on the test? I mean you're, yeah. It's like if you're breathing, what, do you fail it or something?
Starting point is 01:17:51 No, no, no, no. I didn't. That had the noise of, whoa. Now, that K-turn. I did take months. I still can't parallel park. But I did take like months of driver's head. Oh yeah, I did that.
Starting point is 01:18:05 It was one of my classes. Months sounds like a long time. No, mine was like a whole semester. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that was very nervous.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah. I mean, I went through the process. Whatever it was. But then to fly a plane, it's a whole other thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cars are sweet. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Anything else you'd like to share about the aspect of a car, the vehicle? That's nice to have by now and do all the things that you can do with a car like I described earlier. It's just cool. 100%. It was a nice drive. It wasn't as cool as I thought, to be honest. Not as scenic?
Starting point is 01:18:31 No, I was a little bit just kind of the desert. Yeah, well, I was just going to say, like, you do live in the desert. No, but I... It's a shocker to see a building there. It wasn't shocking. Nobody should be there. I wasn't looking for buildings. I thought maybe, like, it'd be a little bit more mountainous or, like, I thought once you got
Starting point is 01:18:45 towards the California side, that it'd be, like, kind of foresty and mountain. Because there's like a, um, something, something forest that you, like, kind of go right by. And I was like, oh, that could be, like, beautiful. And it just wasn't. And then at one point, you get so. close to the border. I got a text message and said, welcome to Mexico. Would you like to apply or would you like
Starting point is 01:19:03 opt into these data things? And I was like I panicked and was like, did I drive into Mexico? Are I in Mexico? Oh, fuck. Because I don't have anything. I'm not prepared to me in Mexico. Can I get out of Mexico? Like, what am I going to do? So that was really scary. Were you down by El Paso? Look, I plug in the destination
Starting point is 01:19:19 and I followed a blue line and then I get out of the car. So your car allows you to be braved up. Were you or were you not down by El Paso? I know nothing else. Literally. That's so true. I mean, that's so true. I could have gone by.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Where's that line going? Toronto. It's also so zoomed in that like you lose any perspective on where you are. No, you're just like, I don't know. The car that's got the car play thing now, you know, it just lists it. Yeah. It doesn't give you the, because I like to zoom out. Like you're saying, I like a little bit of context.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Right. Where's the border? Right. So then I had to like. Where's the border? I'm in Mexico. Totally. I was like, dude, and I kind of, I was able to piece together.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I thought like what had happened that like I'm close enough that my phone just thought I was there. but then I tried to zoom out and like I mean I was right on the board I actually went by Border Patrol they stopped me yeah you roll down the window they look in the back seat and they're like all right you're good there's a whole deal oh and so you did cross the border
Starting point is 01:20:07 no it's like border patrols just there to like so they saw your car coming and we're like hey we're gonna stop everyone everyone has to stop it's like you went through like a whole thing feels weird to have without going to cross the border I think you went to Mexico I mean yeah I mean it just feels very weird to go through Border Patrol without crossing the border they stamp my passport
Starting point is 01:20:23 said Mexico And then, you know, I had to come back and say you as, I don't know. You're not going to believe it. When I turned around, I went through Border Patrol again. Can't believe it. He made me show him a car. Yeah, I think a visa. It was a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:20:38 But it felt like I went to Mexico. I honestly don't think I went to Mexico. It was just a Border Patrol thing. They were stopping people. Pretty standard. It felt like, but I was saying, we pull up until it was very scary because they had, like, I'm not good. I think they all had, like, ripe. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Yeah. No, I mean, that sounds right like you were on the border. I was like, right? What the fuck are you in here? Pretty strict about the whole border. It's a different part of the country than Missouri, man. Very different. No, I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Trent, have you ever seen a highway where they just pull you over and they say, hey, this is the border? No. You're not actually crossing the border. I've never come across that. I've got to tell you. No. Rick, that happened to you, though, huh?
Starting point is 01:21:12 So what they did was, they literally, the guy put his hand out like that to stop. And it felt, and almost. He was like, sir, this is Mexico. You know that right? Are you trying to go to Mexico? And I rolled down the way. know and he was just like how you doing there i was like good and he's like can you roll down the back window i was like yeah no problem he literally just peered in with like a flashlight real
Starting point is 01:21:29 quick and then he was like all right you're good and i just drove by was it wow dynamite good thing i didn't have anything problematic back there no yeah who knows where i could be right now i've been working for a drug cartel yeah could be man i met with a border patrol the other day and i'll tell you what if you crossed them bad mistake i was super nice too they're thinking about getting some drugs i have a border patrols coin. God gave me at the Arizona Classic stop. Okay. Yeah. Is it like, get out of jail free card?
Starting point is 01:21:59 No. It's just kind of, I think, a cool coin. Is it a challenge coin? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's sick. People love those. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. It's got like the sun on it and like, right, because of Arizona and their whole thing. Right. But yeah, the guy gave me one. It was just like, thanks for putting on this tournament. You know, that's down at border. And then I shouted them out in my kind of
Starting point is 01:22:17 finale thing. So I'm tight with Border Patrol. I was, I was ready to drop that. I was ready to be like, dude, look. I got this coin. played my turnaround i got this coin in my apartment i can go get it but i didn't come to that three hours i got to cross the border again i didn't cross the border it didn't come to that okay um all right you might have anything else on this lovely evening this is great by the way how nice is it really nice i am you guys are lucky you're facing this way i'm catching a substantial burn on the right side of my you're acting like the suns's not directly on the back of my head i put sundan lotion on the yeah i didn't know suntan lotion today so i'm giving a little turn here i will say from that i will
Starting point is 01:22:51 have a deeper snapback tanned into the back of my head now because of where I've been standing. Stuart Singh. Behind the greens, watch it. Watch it. Wednesday night, 8 p.m. Eastern. Those guys were working really hard. Ebug and Frankie. And we'll be back on Thursday.
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