Fore Play - Live from Whistling Straits, We’re Ready

Episode Date: September 23, 2021

Dylan Dethier, senior writer for Golf.com and Golf Mag, joins us live from Whistling Straits to break down Ryder Cup prep. Who’s looking sharp? Who’s not? What differs this week from any other week? How does it affect the players? Plus, Frankie & Trent continue to grill Riggs on his European “fandom.”You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen to Ad-Free on Amazon Music. Forwardplay, observed by Barstool Sports. We are live from the Rider Cup. We're at Whistling Straits. We're on the first tee in the stands. I will say that if you're watching on YouTube, the view that you currently see is worse than our view, because we're just looking kind of the ocean.

Or now we're going to actually, you just cold it the ocean? It's a fucking lake loser. Yeah, we're going to. Frankie also pointed when we were at my. to the Pacific Ocean and said, what body of water is that? No, I was asking for the, I was asking for the specific, yeah, Pacific Ocean. I was asking for the specific name of what body of water is there by Pebble Beach. You know, there's like that, yeah, but like there's that little area by six and seven.

You were looking for like still water co. You know what I mean? There's still water cold. Don't look to me for defense here. This doesn't seem like my fight to get into. We have a guest on the show. We're joined by Dylan DeCere, who if you were to look at his name phonetically, you'd be unlikely to get there. I would say it's like deathier.

Credit to you, Riggs, for getting that right, actually. First try there. The only reason I got that right is because you texted it to me one time, I think. I was just like, what's going on with your last name? Yeah, it looks like death ear. It's a problem. I mean, it's not going away this issue. And, yeah, I mean, I've thought about should I just change it so that it's said how it looks

because there's no possible way you'd get it correct first try. I would say that it is pound for pound, the most difficult. name to pronounce I've ever seen. Because if someone has like 37 letters, it's hard, obviously. But it's like short and impossible. Once you hear it, though, I mean, this is how I describe it. It's just like what you're sitting in. It's the chair. And that's it.

Once you know. Really good. Once you know, then you kind of know. It's just if you don't know, you would have no chance. It's like when Guy Fieri, who then corrected Dave to say Guy Fietti, I guess that's the correct way to say it. He goes, you have a guy named Eddie and you all I'm a fee. Fietti. Yeah. Fiatty.

Yeah. That really helps. That's nice. The chair helps too. The chair. Spell it. D-E-T-H-I-E-R. Yeah, death year.

That's how I would almost say that. So you just live your whole life just correcting people. Yeah, or I just kind of let it go. But yeah, I really appreciate you guys getting it right. You're a bunch of professionals. I don't care what people say about you. Has you ever been on the podcast? Never.

No, never. Never invited even. We've had many run-ins with Dylan basically at every single tournament or championship we come to. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We've spent some time walking inside the road. Like you guys, I like to get out and explore the space a little bit, walk the property, watch some golf, spend as little time in the media center as possible. Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like you're a friendly face.

For sure. In like the media, like, gaggle of people, you're a friendly face, I think. Talk about your gig a little bit. My gig. Yeah, so I'm a senior writer. Senior makes me feel old, but for a golf magazine and golf.com. So, yeah, I mean, that kind of means. Like a little bit of everything, some podcasting, some video stuff.

But yeah, mostly writing. I would say you do what like my, like, aunt thinks I do. When I say, yeah, I work in, like, media, I do golf. You kind of do, I think, closer to what they think. I don't think that's the compliment you thought it was. I don't. Really? Or the description that you thought.

I'm not sure how to take that. Yeah, yeah. I would like to think of myself. I think I tell people I'm a journalist and reporter. Yeah, yeah, which maybe you don't. No. No. No.

But if I'm trying to get out of the conversation, then without really explaining it, yes. Because that's a conversation. Oh, I'm a journalist. Everyone's like, all right. Conversation over. Right now what I'm saying right now? Those are your strong suits.

Like, you do find, like, interesting, good stories, and you write it in, like, a compelling way that people can actually, like, process it. If we start to do that, we look like fucking idiots because we don't have to write, we don't want to speak. But, like, our form of being able to talk about the game of golf is us playing it and us being here and like interacting with fans like you get you get a different viewpoint of it which i think everyone needs that's how people just process golf information they

get you they get us it's perfect symmetry i appreciate that yeah i mean and if i what i try to do basically is is bring a little bit of a modern touch to this world of golf journalism which obviously is like a field dominated by people that are older than we are and have maybe been doing this for a while Got to put them in a home. Those people you're describing, they hate us, as I'm sure you're over. Put them at home. Put them at home. I've noticed you're starting to put out a lot more videos, like where you walk with a player

and you interview them with more like. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot easier. I mean, you guys know this, but it's a lot easier some weeks than other weeks. Yeah. And the PJ tour, no chance, because rights are just a lockdown. But some weeks like this, I don't know, people love to see a little video. They love to see people in action, I guess, being.

being normal, like not turning on camera face or camera voice or whatever media voice, but just like inaction. So yeah, I've been trying to do a little bit more of that. Yeah, I would say like we're pretty extreme one way, right? Well, we're in no way journalists. Nothing we do is anywhere close to journalism. And we're kind of like a little like now we're like YouTubey podcasty. And then there's like the Bob Herrick who like they've been writing about golf for a long time.

and we get along well with Bob now. I think you're kind of in between that. You sort of blend the two. I appreciate that, which is good. Yeah, I think there's still a need for it, right? Banks is a writer. Yeah, Banks is a golf journalist at this point. He likes to report on the golf stuff.

I would say he's a golf blogger. Golf blogger. Yeah, okay. He's not here actually getting to stuff. Like, Dylan, though, you combed through and you go into, like, press conferences and you come out with, like, information. I read a lot of transcript. Right, right.

It's like, it's become, like, compulsory. sit for me. I'm like, oh, man. But you enjoy that. Monday morning, kind of combed through the fortinet, you know, final round transcript. See what Max Homa said. Right. Yeah, I think it's interesting. I think it's like, I think, I think figuring out how these guys think or how they deal with success or how they deal with fame, like there's little stuff that I think is really interesting. And I don't know, I think if there's something I do in my writing, it's probably zoom in on little stuff and then try to apply that to, I guess, more general concept.

So if you learn something little about Patrick Cantley, maybe that explains who he is a little bit more. Right, definitely, which we need. And it helps him. It helps the game. Any fan, right, like, you clearly play golf a very high level, which we'll get into a little bit.

But, like, taking those tidbits, information, quotes, reporting, and being able to then repackage into something that's interesting, right, is what makes it, like, what makes you incredibly valuable versus just like a newswire like if you're just reading a newswire we don't want to read those fucking transcripts we want you to read through them and then be like this is the interesting stuff put context into it and then it's readable so i think like what's as much as we may shit occasionally on like traditional journalists and the old people that need to be put in a home

that writing and stuff there's always going to be a need for that and i i do think it's cool my tires are like inflated right now no wonder people like coming on your guys podcast well have the things that we say on this podcast probably come from stuff that you've reported on. You know what I mean? Sometimes we just read your tweets. I go straight to your Twitter and just plagiarize half of it just on this podcast. Not a journalist. Anything that comes straight from, like, anything that sounds like I know what I'm talking about comes from Dylan's Twitter, basically.

Is what I mean? It's like the stuff that's happening on the PGA tour. Like I would never know it if I didn't follow you. Yeah. I remember our first, I think the first time I met you, Frankie, was we were walking at Beth Page. and now I'm remembering because we were following Francesco Molinari. Oh, here we go. And there were so many people in the crowd screaming like Frankie Butter Nives.

And Francesco Mollinari was so confused. He kept looking around, kind of like waving to people. And I was like, damn, these guys are big time. Like there is a... That is so funny. I mean, and look, to some extent it's like a time and place, right? Because, all right, I always think about PJ2 or golfers. They aren't really famous.

They're not real life famous. But in the world that they exist, they're extremely famous. Like, you know, Justin Thomas, if he walks into a restaurant in, you know, Chicago this week, probably not really going to get recognized. But out here, every single person knows who he is. You guys probably run into some of the same stuff. Totally. Yeah.

This is like our theater right now. Like when we walk through this place, people go, it's insane. Makes is literally signing autographs on the 18th Fairway yesterday. yesterday. Which, by the way, what I'll say is it's weird because, like, Riggs isn't how I signed my name. No. So you have to create an alternate, like, signature. Yeah, I saw you just wrote Riggs.

I just write Rigg. It's not a signature. I don't know. I don't know. It's very, it's very bizarre. But you're right in this world, like, because this is what we do, we do golf. But you're right. Like, if we...

Oh, my God. Just touched your hand, dude. Sorry. I have two bad elbows, so I don't know. I don't know. I don't know between the two you back there. I just grabbed his hand. I got two bad elbows, so it's like, I don't have...

We will have that footage, though. I'll say, though, he has two bad elbows and, like, a bad knee and, like, turf toes. And I've got horrible heartburn right now. How has it been walking around then for you? Because this is one of the tougher walks that I've been to. There are so, even going up to the range, there's, like, these fucking inclines and declines and it's bad. But, yeah, my knees and shambles. Yeah, but just to wrap that up, it is crazy that, like, when you go, like you're saying, to a place where you know there's going to be people who recognize.

Nizu? Like, it is, it's magnified by a million. And I can normally imagine what it's like for the golfers where, like, a guy like Scotty Sheffler. I mean, you know, not to shit on Scottie Sheffler, he's our guy, but it's like, if that guy walks into a pizza place or anywhere in New York, no one knows who the hell he is. He comes out here. People are screaming his name. There was like a lady like shrieking when he walked into the driver. Dude, today, like Cole Swindell's here, okay, he's got millions of followers. He posts every day he's on tour and he posts these videos of him up on stage surrounded by people trying to grab at him. Dude,

he walked around with me for like 10 or 15 minutes today. Not one person said a word to him. But like tomorrow night he'll be in Cincinnati in front of 20,000 people. No exactly who. Who literally have been listening to his album for a two-week straight year after this concert. And like, they're going to take a picture from 200 yards away with him in the background. And be like, I got a picture of Cole Smith out. Right.

So it is very time and place. I'm dropping stuff left right. We got to do Owens. Then we're going to get in some Rider Cup stuff. speaking to owens we got an event tomorrow so when people are listening to this we're going to be at the bands par three course at uh black black wolf run part three course every time i bring it up to somebody out here they're like that place is great it's cool and unfortunately they couldn't get registered because it's sold out in eight minutes but we're excited to go there and owens is representing the whole thing

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You know the whole spiel about Owens. just poured him in his favorite liquor. You got an awesome cocktail. It's great. All right, Dylan. One of the big reasons we wanted to have you on is not just to gas you up and then have you and return gas us up. That's a good start though.

Just a gas up fast. But, you know, we're out here. We've been watching golf for a few days. You make, like, actual astute observations, right? Like, we just talk about, like, Frankie's knee hurts and, like, whatever. Where are we going to dinner? And we're, like, how we had to, like, know, the trials and tribulations of having to, like, sign our middle names on shit and, like, dumb stuff.

you actually make like real observations about the golf so what has been you know a couple days here what was one of your takeaways going into the golf all right yeah it's a lot of pressure to put on me my my biggest takeaway from today was like this seems exhausting for the players this whole lead-up like they got here on monday they were here last week too for a couple days but it's like monday tuesday wednesday thursday that's more lead up than they usually have and normally in practice rounds like they can kind of shut it down stick to themselves be boring They're not like super social creatures But this week, they're just talking to each other nonstop

To the there's too many assistant captains nonstop It's like you're just on on on And I don't know, it just made me think like by the time they get to the actual golf Like they must be wiped and so guys that are better at managing that Probably gonna have better rider cups I don't know how we we turn that into like picking anyone But that was my thought from today The driving range has been strange though

And we noticed that too where at a normal tour event there's usually a million people walking around and everybody's talking and everybody kind of gets lost in everything that's going on. Now every time we're out there, like we were just out there like 30 minutes ago and it was Bryson and Brooks and everybody was looking at them. And everyone was focused on them and they know that everyone's focused at them. Some people are yelling at them. So you're right. They don't have that ability to sort of go off into the background and just prepare how they normally would. Everyone is watching them all the time.

So it has to be exhausting. So yeah, I think, like, Brooks had this explosive interview in Golf Digest last week or whatever where people are like, oh, he doesn't care about the Ryder Cup. Because he kind of said how he was describing how weird a week it is. And that's what I keep coming back to is like, you get out here, Fred Couples and Davis Love are watching Jordan Speeth hit wedges on the range. And it's, you know, it'd be like NBA guys going to an all-star game and suddenly another coach is, like, working on their jumper with them.

It's got to be a little bit strange. It's cool. I mean, like, those guys are awesome. Yeah. But yeah, it's got to be a little bit funky. Yeah. Do you think the range stuff? Because I've noticed there's a lot of chatter.

And one of Riggs's big points, and one of the reasons he's rooting for Europe, is because they're all boys. They like to play paddy cake. They like to have, like, you know, shake hands and dance on the driving range. You saw the video of John Ron putting on the cheese head and going crazy. It's like, do you think any of this is being juiced up because, like, they know everyone wants to see them all talk and have fun? Like, half of this stuff is not even, like, natural.

Right. I'm noticing it. Like, on the driving range, like, they're all fucking laughing out loud. Like, no one has real conversations like that. Like, Brooks was like better, though, right? It's like, oh, you got a wedge? Ha, ha, ha. And they're like, yeah.

It's like, yeah. It's like, that's like, through a ball at Scotty Schaeffler and he's like, whoa. And, like, he, like, dodged the ball. Yeah, but what's happening right now? It's like, the Europeans pull that stuff up, like, naturally. I know, but even them, like, when they did the photo, like, everyone knows that they're tight, so they're knocking each other over. It's like at some point, I get it.

Everyone's kind of friendly. You know what I mean? I think it is kind of performative. And I think they lean into it. But I do think also they come in like feeling loose. And that's like their main goal is to feel loose and chop it up. They don't really feel the pressure. Even Ian Poulter today was talking about how, you know, basically he thinks that the course is set up for the Americans.

He thinks everything indicates that Team USA should win. So he's just like jacking up that underdend. dog mentality leaning into it and then I think that that ultimately he thinks is going to be helpful. That's great. I love doing that. Talk about how there's no chance you can be in. There's no, how can we possibly win? They've got short rough. They're in they've got no fans here. Yeah. It is interesting to hear about, you know, or to be here and have sort of those same kinds observations about how different of a week it is. And you know, like Scotty Schaeffler, for example, is a guy again. And we love him. He's found out in the last month.

He's, like, the biggest Barstle fan of the world. He's listening to like every Trent Bachelo show. He's just deep in the Marcewell stuff, and he's awesome. And he's super nice dude. He goes, Trent, are you going on cutting stems tonight? Last night after he got done putting for four and a half hours. Right, yeah. It's the Ryder Cup, and he just wanted to talk about how Demi is no longer on Paradise.

He's like, I'm really bummed. She really brings, like, a good electricity to the show. He's right. He's right. He's about the Ryder Cup? He's like, I don't know. He's a great example of a guy who, on a typical tournament round, even Saturday, if he's close to contention, he's not going to have a fraction of the amount of people following

his group that were following him in the practice rounds the last couple days. Massive. Like he hit a wedge in there, like, kind of close, and the crowd went bananas today on, like, the 11th hole in a practice round. And so that, like you're saying, changes things from their preparation at a point. That actually does make me a little bit more sympathetic towards the Berkskekeke comments, because, you know, what he was saying was just that, like, if I do want to just leave the course and go take like a nap, I really can't

because like we got to be on the bus at this time. We got to do all this other stuff that like from an average fan standpoint, it's like, oh, you have to play in the writer cup. But in terms of trying to get ready and go out there under this intense pressure, this wind, all that stuff, and try to hit really, really good golf shots, you do want to be kind of prepared.

And then a lot of those days, if you're one of the top dogs, I mean, Friday, Saturday, you might be playing golf from, I mean, if you, 7.05, I think it's the first seat time. So you get here at six, you know, and go through your whole warm up from 6 a.m. until like 6 p.m., you might be playing golf. basically.

And that's kind of, that's wild and very different for them. I think we're on TV, by the way. People are tweeting at us that were in the background. Oh, really? Oh, really?

Right there. Come on. This is big for me. So I'm on Live From and Forkla at the same time. What a big. It's just like there was a blob of just people sitting there and a camera right in front of it on this tweet I just got. That's hilarious.

That's us, I guess. We didn't even know they were over there. I didn't know that was the studio. I want to have like some other insightful insights for you guys. Well, how do you feel about the, right? In practice rounds, I guess one thing that I wasn't prepared for is them playing alternate shot in practice rounds.

It's just so weird for me to even, I mean, yes, it makes sense they would do that, but I've never seen it. So when you watch it in person, it's very bizarre. It's a confusing fan experience, too, I think. Like people that come out to the practice rounds, like God bless you, but I hope you just kind of get a drink and post up and like enjoy watching it all because it's hard to really make sense of it. Dude, they'd be like, who hit that one in there?

I'd be like, I think it was DJ, but then like, more Kyle would come up and put it. Yeah. And they'd be like, I thought you said it was DJ. I was like, DJ would hit another one in. It's like they're both playing alternate shot at the same time. I think the Europeans were playing literally, you know, Fleetwood hits one, Lowry hits the next one and so on. They just play one ball, but the Americans were doing like two-ball alternate shot.

I mean, the Americans might just overthink like every single step of this thing. For sure, yeah, which would not be the most surprising thing. I will say, like, getting here, I'd never been a, whistling straits before and I'm curious what you guys think of this but it felt especially today with the wind much more i don't know european much lynxier than i would have expected like there are fairly wide fairways but when the wind is ripping like the targets start to look a little bit smaller uh there's definitely a lot of crap like that seems very in play guys getting some weird squirly lies i still think the americans are going to win but i think that less than than before i got here

I would say today was chaos out there. Yeah. You know, following basically the Speeth, J.T. Cantlay. Zander. Zander group for five or six holes. There were some horrible T-shots. Speath hit, yeah. So, I mean, the good example of the 12th hole, right, 142 yards today.

J.T. hit seven iron. Speeth hit at 30 yards left. Like Bryson hit two different T. shots didn't hit the green i mean it gets hard especially because if you have if you have to start it over the ocean yeah shout out frankie the ocean there you go um i love you could have just kept saying ocean and not one of us at this point we like already forgot that it's like a lake i'm looking at white caps right yeah it looks very oceany it's a lake yeah that was right because what do you think j t seven iron is traditionally one one 85 yeah one yeah it's a 40 40 yard wind yeah that he basically

So he played that and he hit it pin high. And so you think of these rider cups, right, especially when the U.S. sets it up as like a birdie fest, if the wind is blowing like this, it is, and I think that it's going to really put a premium on ball striking more, you know, than I, because a lot of times, you know, we've been hyping up the putting

and, like, you have to make putts to win, but like, you're hitting fescue and shit and, like, missing fairways out here at this place. Yeah. Look at what we're looking at. It's an insanely intimidating first hole. Like, if I'm playing this just as me, Frankie Brearley,

I'm not happy about this first hole. That green is up on a plateau, which is an absolute nightmare around it. I mean, I'm obviously in a bunker off the T. It's just you're walking away with a seven to start your day at Whistling Street. It's not fun. I think it's going to be an awesome match play course because there's a bunch of shortish par fours.

Bryson can, you know, get weird and probably hit it right up around the greens. But then there's also going to be a bunch of parforce playing into the wind and they're going to be like long irons, five woods, into greens. So I think it's going to be a good mix. Have you heard any of these guys talk about with alternate shot how they have to play, like, the other guy's ball? Yeah. If it's like a Callaway versus like a Tattos, how do they go about that? Most of the Americans play ProV-1s, I think.

So it's not like a massive deal, but I think people were saying that about Zander. I don't know. He and Cantlay seem like truly on the same page. They just want him vacation together. Like, it doesn't seem like it's an issue. Is that right? But it is a funny thing. A little thing.

A little bit of Napa. Oh, that's a little Vino spent some of Cantley's money. Oh, that is right. Yeah, I was going to say, a little bit of that, you know, kind of 20-Schmillion, I feel like, that he's one this year. It's like this bromance built on, like, hating social media. It's like the low-key boys, can't lay in Shafley. And I think they're the best U.S. team. You think so?

Yeah. Yeah, I would say that that would be the last team that I would want to have to go up against. I think they're better than J.T. and Speed? I think right now they are. I think they're just both rock-solid. I don't know. looking at like top point score, Shoffley jumped out to me because, you know, he's going to play with Kantley probably every time. And then his odds were a bunch higher, like 15 to 1, which seemed like too much.

Yeah, I would say I saw some horrible T shots from Speath today. But then I also, as much as I'm like talking about you, like, followed a European group for one hole on maybe 13. I think it was. And every one of them missed a fair way about like 30 yards left. So it's like, yeah. When the wind's blowing like that, it's just hard. It doesn't matter really who you are. And also, it's like, it's just impossible to know what to make of practice.

Or, like, range sessions. Like, the word is that Sergio is hitting it awesome. Watch Rory for a few holes yesterday. He lipped out for a hole in one on 17 and then hit it to, like, five feet on 18. Like, he looks like he's flushing it. Paul Casey, it sounds like he's flushing it. I don't know what to do with that information. Yeah, because then these guys were at Kiowa, and they were like,

dude, we saw Phil a couple days before the tournament started, and he was in a house of horror. He looked like he didn't know what a golf club was. He didn't know what was that. driving range of Kiowa, I said to Trent, I said, can you believe Phil Mickelson's at the end of this driver engine, no one cares? Dude, he'd been out there for two, three hours? One fan was over there, he was just like grinding over

drivers, getting different drivers handed to him, looking at his team. I'm like, dude, this guy's an absolute lunatic. He walked by us, deep breathing, and then he fucking won the PGA. Right. This place is more similar to Kiowa than I thought it would be. Yeah. I mean, I know they have like the same architect, but

there are different parts of the country. I didn't really expect there would be any similarities. it's more similar than I thought What are you most looking forward to? Like is there a storyline that you're I mean are you getting caught up in this whole Bryson Brooks thing? Not so much the Bryson Brooks thing but more like just the Bryson thing

like how does this guy fit into a team environment? It's funny that he's like he seems like such an asset like an obvious asset especially for four balls guys that can hit it a mile make a bunch of birdies but I feel like he's being slept on they're kind of talking about

you know where who can they pair him with, which is funny conversation to be having for like the seventh ranked player in the world. Right. So I'm interested to see how that works out. I think he's going to play with Harris English and Scotty Sheffler is what it looks like. And then just to see like the thoroughbreds kind of showdown. Like the U.S. now has some of these established teams, which I think is smart. J.T. and Spee, Zander and Cantlay, DJ and Morikawa, which is funny because they're the top two ranked players in the world, but they feel like a big question mark.

Yeah, I was saying today walking around for whatever reason, like DJ doesn't seem like an automatic win for me. Like when, you know, when he goes out there, it's almost like, eh-huh. I don't know if that's like history. I don't know because he's got so much history in the Ryder Cup, then that's not been great history, clearly, for the last two decades. But, yeah, I don't know. And DJ was so mysterious this year, right?

Because last year there was a stretch of two months where it was like, oh, this guy's just going to be the best player in the world for the next 10 years. he's unstoppable he's winning by 11 shots he's shooting 30 under he's winning the masters and then all of a sudden this year I don't know it was like how does he lose that much steam it felt like there wasn't much to it and now he's going to try to bring that to the rider cup which again he's not necessarily like oh he's not running around with a fire under his ass it doesn't seem like yeah he's playing us with fucking left-handed so it the whole yeah DJ I don't know the end morikawa he's been all right DJ's been a little better than people think I think he's got like four top tens in his last six starts okay morikawa's been Funky, he tweaked his back, basically beat no one in the FedEx Cup playoffs. I mean, he finished, like, last place just about. Ever since he wore that, ever since he wore that suit.

You think that's what did it? I talked him to wearing a suit to the Northern Tress, and I don't think he made a par since he wore the suit. I mean, he was dead lad. But he says he's 100%. So if you believe him. Yeah, that'll be an interesting pairing because he's not the, I mean, one of the things that sets him back from being like the best in the world is probably his putting, right,

from Orcawa. I mean, he's an unbelievable approach player and iron player. So it'll be interesting to see how he pairs up with DJ. Because I just think, dude, and there's a part of me that agrees with you, Riggs, where you're like, you don't know how he's going to be. But also, like, we've seen him up close. He's the most competitive dude in the world. So you got to, yeah, you got to think DJ just brings it.

Like, when he steps up to the first state at the Ryder Cup, he may not show the emotion because he puts people to sleep when he does interviews. But he's got to have that fire. I mean, he had that fire, like you said, playing us on a par five with a seven iron. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree. He's actually not necessarily one that his competitors. I just think, I don't know, for every reason, it's like it hasn't.

Who did he use to be? He played like Bubba Watson or something that he used to play with Dylan in Rider Cups. You know, and it was like the two of the... He's been all over the place. He's just... It's just... In the President's Cup. It's funny, though, the interview thing, like he had...

This was my favorite moment of the week so far was today. Can't Lay... Because Cantlay, like, suddenly loves to talk and then he realized that... He's kind of doing the Brooks thing from four years ago. Yeah, he won. Now it's cool. And we're going to, he can't lay in a month. He was going through, here, I just pulled it up.

And he's going through, you know, why Europe keeps beating the U.S. And he was saying, like, you know, golf is very chancy. He said, you go to Vegas, you play roulette and the chances are 50-50, but skewed towards the house a little. It could hit red six times in a row. And as he's talking about this, DJ walks in because he's doing the next interview. And Cantley goes, look, that's not abnormal. You flip a quarter, it would be weird if the quarter flip tails heads, tails heads, tails heads, tails head.

And DJ is just like, turns and looks up with just like quizzical expression on his face. It was so funny. And then after Cantlay finished, that was the last question. DJ looks out and he's like, my answers are going to be a lot shorter than that. So perfect. Yeah, I saw some of the Can't Lay stuff. And like to a degree, he's probably right. But it's also like it's, you know, like with the roulette, you know, it's like you roll one.

ball like the writer cup is you know 28 matches or whatever it's like it's a pretty good sample size each time of just like running your talent against their talent of a handful of different times and over 12 different guys so I thought that like that was one thing that stuck out to me

it's different I do like that can't like clearly is speaking more like clearly is more thoughtful you know than people probably gave them a ton of credit for and that's why we got you here to give those quotes and shit we would have never come with that you know what I mean I got to bounce unfortunately guys you got a spotted cow waiting for me but I appreciate you having me on.

How do you feel about the spotted cows? Wisconsin beer, yeah? Yeah. I mean, it's good. I don't know. I feel like any time you have a beer and someone says, oh, it's a great local beer, it just always tastes good. Spotted cow has...

It almost always tastes the standard, like local beer tastes. Yeah, you guys make a logger too. Whoa. All right, thanks guys. All right, Dylan. Thank you. Check him out. He's on Twitter, Dylan DeCere, not DeFier.

And he's on Golf.com, Golf Magazine. Thank you, Dylan. Thank you. All right. See you, man. The podcast is going to get much less, you know. Informative. Thank God.

Now we can just sit. Yeah, man, thanks for doing it. Now we can say our typical. How's your knee, Frankie? Typical. Really bad. So how about the ice cream here? Oh, I thought you were being serious.

No, I don't care. We don't care about your knee. Because my knee was, I thought you saw me struggling. No. Barcel golf time. It was a good time. Should I do Barsoe golf time right now? Yeah, do it.

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review, your pictures, your videos, all that stuff. Every time you play golf, just go do that. Simple as that. I agree with you, Frankie. There's also a second email that I have to read. about real quick. I almost, by the way, Jake Bass warned me about this. I almost went to the first one and blew it. Oh. So big credit to me that I didn't. Um, book and play Wednesday September 22nd to Wednesday, September 29th and wheel grant bonus points. Here we go. Depending on who wins. If Frankie Trent and Team USA win, bookings will receive 1,000 bonus points. If Riggs and team Europe win, booking points will receive 500 bonus points. Oh. Well, that seems a little skewed against me there. Nope. That makes sense. In addition to the bonus points, if it's your first time booking on

Burrtle Golf Time, you will get a free golf polo after you play. Watch out for an email after you play to claim your shirt. Okay, so again, so if Europe wins, you get 500 bonus points. If USA wins, you get 1,000 bonus points. So again, the DAC's pretty stacked against rigs there in terms of just likelihoodness. So that's a little tough. But go to your app store and download the Barstow Golf Time app. Speaking of USA versus Europe, now that we've been here for a couple days,

you can't possibly be happy with what your situation is, right? Well, surprise me. you guys act you guys very much act like you don't have a brain and understand how we got to this point how we got to this point yeah you were drunk and you tweeted that's how we got to this point but what what is right what's confusing to me is like this

um notion of like when we did the when I did the Tiger Woods thing I was like yeah Tiger Woods shows up like obviously I'm like that's an out and you guys are like well you can't have an out because you did this but then when we're here you guys were like How are you possible in for USA? Well, it's like you can't. Well, no, we're just kind of like not letting you forget that you are not rooting to the United States of America. It's our job to make sure that you never forget, just like we don't forget.

I will say, I feel from a betting standpoint happy. And the reason is, let me just say real quick, the reason is because I think this has become pretty much a pickum in terms of who's going to win, and Europe's two to one. So I think from a value standpoint, yeah, I'm very happy with that. I mean, at that point, you can bet on anything. You can hedge your happiness. You can do all of this stuff. But I'm talking about walking around here, seeing all these stars. We're sitting here on the amazing grandstand on the first T-box of Whistling Straits.

There's going to be, I don't know how many thousand people can fit in these grandstands. It's going to be an amazing scene. You're just going to be rooting against all of this. And that's cool to you. You love that. And we did get reports from the driving range from people who were standing behind us saying, saying, boy, it sure seemed like Riggs followed Team America a lot today. Like, you were oogling and looking at them like, boy, I really love these boys.

And then you're just going to be rooting for, you're going to be rooting for Team Europe. Yeah. No way, it was Oogling. And it's like, as a golf media, like we're following the people that are in the tournament. I was following Europe, following USA. Both of those things were true. Which one do you think you followed more? Today?

Yeah. Probably Team USA. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they just happen to be. Keeping his eye on the competition maybe? First. Yeah.

I mean, that was kind of part of the year. He's like scouting. I'm trying to see, you know, maybe if I wanted to get on some prop bets, who's playing well, who's not? Like, I'm trying to get a full look at the field. But at the end of the day, like, the best outcome for me would be for Team USA to have picked Kevin Kisser. And yeah, we'd be all in on that.

But I think that they made a bad decision. And I am very much committing to what I said if they don't. And I think that I'm going to be proven right. That's what I think. It's just a shame because it would have been better had you just admitted you made a mistake with the tweet. instead you're now on the side of being like I can't go back on my word because like my word is sacred yes you can you can't say you're going to do something and then not do it's yeah you can't

you literally can't root for USA your entire life and then just not do that you're turning your back and you're going back on all of the things that you've done for 30 years this podcast flip-flops on every single every single subject but I think when you put something in words it's different you guys know but still like something in writing it's different your passion for Team USA should outweigh your passion for wanting to back up a tweet about Kevin Kisner. That's where a lot of the fans and people and the listeners and us find that to be insane, that you're able to continuously keep talking about why you should be doing that. Yeah, I've had multiple people tweeting me and just say, he could just say I didn't mean the tweet

and I can now root for Team USA. Well, no, because I think a lot of the genesis of the tweet, as I've explained many times, comes from a very real point in frustration. That's where we disagree. I don't even know if you believe in that. I do. But we've, like, talked about how you kind of don't. Like, you like the way the team is looking.

Like, you, except for just one guy. We've done this five weeks in a row now. But it's not just one guy, though. It's like, if it was just one guy, then we wouldn't be in this place, clearly. But I think it's an entire, like, ethos of the team over two decades. And it's, like, arrogance and it's like weird. The team hasn't been that bad, dude. And a lot of people have helped me out with the argument.

Even today, screaming out me being like, dude, in 2012, they had an epic collapse on Sunday singles. Like, they should have won that. that year. They were the better team. 2014, they won. 2016, they got fucking blown. 2014, they got killed. 2016, they won. And then 2018, they get fucking blown out. But like Sky Shephler, like Patrick Cantley's saying, sometimes

it doesn't always go red at the roulette table. And it is kind of a flip. When you're here at Western Straits, it is the flip of a coin. Both these teams are fucking fantastic at golf. You never know what's going to happen. So it's like, how could you possibly just think? They could possibly win two out of the last three Ryder Cups. Like, why is that

a bad ethos? Why is that a team that's crumbling and not having good leadership. That's a winning team. Well, I think they're two and seven. That is horrible. I don't know how you can argue against that. Because like the teams in 2002, they're not even playing on, no one on that

team is on this team. This is like the first time Phil Mickelson hasn't been on a Router Cup team since like 1994. And don't you agree that that's a good decision that they made? Right, but my point is that like all those teams did have a lot of the same guys. But the fact that they don't have Phil Mickelson, the fact that they don't have Patrick Green and they're making changes and they're trying to win and trying to create a better ethos. That's

everything that you said they wouldn't do. And that's the only reason why you're not rooting for USA. And they're doing all the stuff. But I don't know that they're trying. They literally are. You just said it's a first time Phil Mickelson's not on the team since fucking 19th. Like, okay. Eventually he's going to be too old.

I think Patrick Greed is a better point. That they left him off. I'm agreeing with you. They're making changes is my point. They're moving on. They're younger. They're guys like Phil Mickelson are no longer on the team. It's not the,

you can't keep making the same arguments about the team from 1998 as you are about the team in 2021. It's just not fair. It's not fair to the team that's playing currently right now. You can say that in a lot of sports too. I hate when people do that. Well, I've also very much not blamed the players. I've blamed the leadership.

And I don't, like, that's exactly why I've been upset. I don't think that, like, the leadership has done the right things and taken the right steps and the right moves. And I think that you're right, if it was just one rider cup or if it was even three or four rider cups, I don't know that it would be like this, in my mind, this, wow, we really need to, like, look and change and try to create a a winning formula going forward because that wouldn't be when it's been nine and when you've been favored the majority of them in your two and seven I think that's a significant problem.

There are only two wins since then, yeah, have come on home soil when you get to set up the course exactly how you want. You get to do all the things exactly how you want to. So you are a massive favorite typically when you're at home and they've never, they haven't won on the road since whatever, the early 90s and they've gotten stomped. They lost by nine points twice. We got beat by, I believe, seven points in France, despite being heavy favorites in terms of world rankings and all that. So I think, yeah, like the United States team.

Just like you just said. Absolutely. And I get all that. But, like, you're up one in 2012 on the road. Like, they've found ways to win on the road. And we just, like, have it. And I think, again, that when you look at that, you have to at some point look at, like, what are the reasons for that? I don't think you can just say, like, well, it's like a roulette wheel.

I think that's, like, not caring that much when you just say that. I think you need to, like, really, really, really want to win. to a point and I think Europe has proven that like I think Europe has gone out there and clearly figured out a formula despite having players world rankings all that that is like less talented that is considered to be not as good

that's why they're not the favorite most often to win and I think like that clearly shows through I shake my head it's just shaking your damn head yeah SMDH how do you think there's not the fucking answer to this thing it's just he's our buddy

he's just it's crazy to see this It really is, man. It's, you have this deep-roof- Team USA Golf. And you think that it's Kevin Kisner's the answer because he's going to go play billiards with Scotty Sheffler, and they're going to have a hoo-rah-rah. You can't get over it because that's one of your main points.

Every time you talk about kids, you say it's that he's 16-5-and-1 in matchplay. He's never played in the Ryder Cup. Like, you have no idea what he would do. Okay, he played in the President's Cup. He was undefeated. Right, but, like, I mean, they won the... Like, they play well in the President's Cup. Well, yeah, that year they had the most historic win of all time.

It's the only time he's ever been an American team. Like, I think that helps my case, not hurts it. What do you think the response from the fans has been, like, so far out here at Whistling Straits? More or less negativity than you had thought? Way less than I would have thought. I agree. Way less. It's unfortunate.

You know, it's been a lot of, like, Riggs, you trade her. Can I get a picture? Been a lot of that. I just don't know how you come back from this. Like, in Rome, you're just going to, like, root for them. What does Kisner think about this? I would love to know that. I don't even think he gives a fuck. What does he think about you rooting for team Europe

on behalf of him not being selected to the writer-trial trial? He so off-brand if he cared. Well, I know Kevin Kisner is rooting obviously for Team USA. 100%. I know that. That was a very political answer. You needed to say that. I don't know what he... You don't know? I haven't asked. Oh, wow.

You've turned on your country and you don't even know if the guy like you don't know what his stance is. All over it. You've turned on the country for this guy. Well, it wasn't about his stance. It was like I, it was just deeper than like, oh, my friend gets on the team. That's what I'm trying to explain. Like, I think he literally would help this team win. I think that putting more guys like a Kevin Kisner on this team and having the balls to do it over the last two decades would have delivered many more wins.

Who's like a Kevin Kisner? Not a lot of people like Kevin Kisner. Okay. That seems like it's just Kiz. You put Paparaz on the team? Is sure or no, I would know. Okay. Would you?

No. I wouldn't put Kiz on either. Wow. That's different. You haven't said that yet. That's the first time you've said that, I believe. That's fine. I just don't know that he's, I don't know that he's like the yes or no answer.

I think Kiz would even admit that. I just don't know that he is the guy that's going to change this, what you're claiming is a 20-year problem that's deep-rooted in the United States golf in competitive play, team play. You think Kevin Kisner is the one and only change? I've never not once said he's the one. want to change. No, but you're alluding to it.

I think if the team showed, in my opinion, they're going in the direction where they're like, yep, in terms of what we're trying to cultivate and build, Kevin Kisner is a central part of that. That would say to me a lot of the things that I want to hear from the United States team that I think they're missing. Right. I'm just saying,

I do not think he's the one and only answer. So there isn't any other guy on tour that you would put on this team to try to create that culture. It's just Kevin Kisner? I wouldn't say there's not any other guys. I'm saying like from what I looked at this year, like I thought Scotty Schaeffer was a great choice. Agreed. I think adding like a Kevin Kisner with another guy like a Scotty Schaefford would have

been a couple guys that I think are extremely well liked who putt very well, who also would be like Rider Cup rookies, which I get to have. But like I want, you know, in my opinion, I think more guys that the Ryder Cup would mean the world to them, I think also helps. And I think that would have been huge for a guy like Kevin Kisner. Think the Ryder Cup means the world or it doesn't mean the to Daniel Berger? I don't know. So you just know that it would for kids because he's like your buddy. Yeah, I believe that it would.

In my heart of hearts, I believe, yeah, that this would be like the biggest. It seems not fair to Daniel Berger. Why? He played better golf than Kevin Kisner, and you're at assuming he does not care about it. But I never said he doesn't care. Well, you just said it would mean the world. I think that's different. I think caring and then something being the world to you is different.

I think like the big part of the reason. Do you not know what means the world to Daniel Berger? Well, I think a big part of the reason that you not. United States team hasn't played that well for that since because we've had guys who, by the way, it's been very clear in the media. They've said, like, we need to be paid that stuff, that the Ryder Cup is not the world to them. And I think that

when you have guys on your team, that this event is the world to them. It is the biggest thing that they will ever play. And it'll be the biggest week, golf-wise, career-wise, of their life. I think that breeds a winning culture and a winning passion that clearly Europe has had in the United States team

has not. Jordan Speath says he has his first T-Shout from the Ryder Cup painted over his bedroom bed in his room. It's the only thing he's ever gotten done. That's the guy who's had some big moments. Oh, yeah. And I think Spieth has had a great rider cup. I think J.T. has also had one.

I think that the guys that are in the leadership have not. The world to. It means the world to these guys. Everything you're saying that you think this team has, we have it. Do you think it means the world of Brooks Kepka? Do you think it means the world of Bryson-Shambo? No, but do you know that it means the world to... of the guys. Weasberger? Or are you just assuming that because they all drink beers together?

I'm assuming that they have that because their team has been less talented yet continued to win. So again, we've talked about this a million times. Right. I've explained this to you a million times. I'm not explaining. When a team is less talented, then you have to look at the next factors that are making the difference. And I think that's what I've looked at as the difference. So if they lose this year, that's two out of three years, what's the difference for Europe? They're just not as good then?

Their camarader didn't matter. I think that would be the... No, I think that you would... Probably the first thing you would look at is are they... Is the United States team just better at golf than we are? I think you could probably just check that box and say, yeah. So we don't get any good camaraderie, nothing from the other...

Like the guys that care, like, the guys who are getting paintings on top of their bedroom walls? Well, so what would be your checklist when your team loses? What's the first thing you would look at? Are they better or worse? Right. But I also think the teams can care very much. Like, guys can care extreme amounts and still lose a sports competition. I don't think so.

I think that you just drawing this line in the sand and saying like the only reason that they would lose since they are two to one favorites. The only reason they would lose is because they do not care. There are guys that come out with horrible quotes about like getting paid and like that's a different scenario and all this stuff. It's also the just shacklefords of the world that are trying to drum up controversy because we see these guys out here practicing, wanting to care, loving it. They love golf. They want to win when they're on the T-box. We've all admitted that. We've all confirmed that we think that Brooks Keppgoe wants to win when he steps up to the.

the first T on Friday. So I just don't think that you could, it's fair to say that the only reason that they're not winning over the last 20 years is because they do not care. Like I just think you win and lose in sports. It just happens. Like guys just lose. Better teams lose all the time. It happens all the time.

But I think, and they are on a winning, like they're on the winning turnaround if they do win this, this week. But I think people, literally it's their entire jobs. People get paid millions of dollars to be put into places where their job is to take what you just described and figure out why a team is not winning. So, like, that's not uncommon in sports. That's actually universally occurs in sports, where if a team is not winning, you don't go, again, you don't just say, like, well, roulette wheels, like, right,

49% of the time, tough break. Like, you look very critically at your team, at your talents, at what you're shortcoming. And I think that that's... These guys just, like, close their eyes and pick a Ryder Cup team. No, I do think that they do that. That's what we're doing right now and talking about it. And my answer is what I've been saying.

that I think that's what lacks because clearly it's not the talent that lacks. The American team is more talented. 11 of the top 12 ranked players in this entire tournament are Team USA. Like, it's not the talent that lacks. So my point is like, if it's not that, then Frankie, what do you think it is? Like, why do you think Team USA has lost seven or the last night? I just think that they've lost the sport that they're playing. They got the balls in the hole not as little amount as the other team.

that's genuinely what I think I think that every single guy that plays the United States at the end of the day tries to win that match that they're playing in I do but I never said they don't try right but like so I that's what I'm saying I just think they lose and I don't know why that's not an acceptable

answer I don't know why you always have to come up with like a reason front office in the world that would accept front office but like like in sports there's front office right I know in sports there's the front office like we have a front office they made changes they left Patrick Redolph like I just think at some point they just go out and play the sport They always assess the team as best as they can. They just happen to leave your friend off.

I don't know why we're talking about this team, this year, at this Ryder Cup, and we're talking about the team from 2002. Like we're talking about the last 20 years, the last two decades of United States golf, and you're trying to pinpoint why they haven't won. And we've talked about Ryder Cups, they have won. But I think that's what we do in sports. We try to pinpoint why results happen and why they didn't. That's literally like we dissect stuff and we react to it.

And I think just giving the answer of like, they just played better golf. I don't like, why is that not a little answer? But we are the ones who say that and then, but we don't do the work because we're not the captains. They actually do the work. So it's like we can say like, yeah, I mean, they just played better than the other team did because that's all that we can control. Right. Why is it not an acceptable answer say they lost?

They just lost. Why is it not acceptable to say in France they just didn't play well? So when you Let me ask this Like when the islanders lose to the Tampa Bay lighting When you sit down to the bar afterwards With your dad or with players of the team Or whatever

Does the conversation just end that Well they played better hockey We're going to do the exact same thing And we'll just hope we play better hockey next year See I don't think so I think that you're able to talk about certain Like skill levels and all this stuff So what do you guys say?

What do you like if you're trying to get to We're going to try to beat Tampa Bay Lightning next year what would be some of your ideas? You could bring in a new player based off of skill level. I would never ever go down to like, oh, like they didn't care enough. That would never be the first thing that I would ever say. I would say, like, you know what, they just weren't good enough to beat them. They need to bring in a goal score.

They need a pure goal score. They need a guy that can sit on the dot and rip one-timers. They don't have that. They don't possess that. They do not own that player. So, like, that's something that I would talk about. I would never say, oh, you know, like Leo Comrov didn't give a fuck out there. We need the guys drinking beers at the fucking a lot.

Your answer isn't just, well, they got the puck in the net more than we did. Your answer is we need to bring something in. I think they genuinely have a front office that does that. You think that they don't look at the beers aspect. They don't look at the playing darts at the end of the night aspect. So my point is just that we disagree on what needs to be changed. But we do agree there's something that needs to be changed. And they change it each time.

Don't they bring in new guys? Why can't we just say they play better golf? My point would be just like you can't say. With those changes though? He's saying they did change those things. and it just didn't work. You act like there's just like dark cloud over USA doesn't want them to win or like they don't want them to have fun. And like that's the reason they lose.

Like because we have all these better players, they never change the team. They do change a team every time. But what I'm saying is like, A, I don't think we'll know the answer to that question until the end of the Ryder Cup. And what I would say is that the issues that I think a lot of people have that look at the team USA and why they've lost and who who spout the same reasons that I have spouted will point to things. like the negative bullshit in the media that has been a plenty leading up to this Ryder Cup. That was a plenty at the end of the last Ryder Cup. That has been a plenty for the last two decades and say, like, have they really changed? Like, if two of the guys have to put out a video that is trying to convince everyone that they really do like each other,

is that really, like, has that changed? Like, has that team? So we'll know after. Obviously, if they lost his Ryder Cup, but like, I think, I've never said they don't care. I'm asking you for a question. No, that won't be the answer. I don't know. Like, We won't know until we see it happen. I ask them, well, if they lose, you'll think that it's not because they just played worse golf. You think, like, they didn't make enough changes this year, obviously, because you think they didn't put Kevin Kisner? It depends, like, how they lose. I think that matters.

Like, how, like, seeing it unfold, seeing what comments are made, what pairings are made, how those unfold. Like, that will determine, I think, like, my reaction and my breakdown of why they did or didn't lose or whoever wins. But my point is just that, like, when there's a team that loses, like, I, I don't think that it would be an acceptable answer for you if someone just said, like, yeah, they put more nucks in the net. That's it. Like, I think you would want to go way deeper, dude. I think you would want to be way deeper into, like, the differences between the teams.

How come Tampa's won two cups in row and the islanders haven't? Like, I think you would want to go way deeper and try to get answers so that you can solve it in your own brain, even if you don't have front office power, and talk about your team and then get that team to a winning level. Like, I think that's what people want to do. I think that's totally acceptable. I just think that you're not seeing that Team USA does that. Because I don't think it's been any proof that they have. Yeah, I mean, but that's the part that drives me crazy. And I don't know about anyone else that's listening to this or Trent.

But if you didn't send out that tweet, we wouldn't be talking about any of this. And you're like sitting here trying to explain to us why you think the United States team has this horrible ethos around them. And like they are this destroyed. The inner workings are all just, like collapsing at the seams. But if you didn't send the tweet, I think we'd all just be here being like this fucking team rocks and we're ready to rock. And this team looks like they're ready to go.

And Jordan Speath has paintings on his fucking wall. When he goes to sleep, he kisses it at night. And Justin Thomas has all these fucking we the people cleats. And Bryson's hitting bombs into the parking lot. You need all be jacked. But instead, you're trying to explain to us why we are like sheep, accepting that the United States doesn't make any changes. It's all because you sent one tweet that you have a totally different viewpoint on this team,

I think. That's genuinely what I think. It's infuriating to listen to you. Like, you're talking down to us about how we don't see why this team is not winning. It's like, dude, like you'd be in the same position as us, rooting on your team had you not, like, met Kevin Kisner and then become friends with them. I think if you went back to 2018, you would see very clearly many similar sentiments, especially after that Ryder Cup about how much of a fucking disaster team. But that was a disaster and they made changes. It was a disaster. They were like going to the newspaper and fucking like, they're still going to the newspaper doing shit. But like, you're golf. Because how did it made that many changes? Use all the fact, still a problem. She's still tweeting about shit. Yeah, but they're not part of the team. Like, my point is that, like, they were a fucking problem. No one talked to each other. Tiger Woods is a part of that team.

And, like, I don't understand. Like, there's no way you would feel this way had you not sent that tweet. That's the only part that really makes me aggravated. If we were having this conversation and... I don't know that I'd be rooting for Europe, but I would feel this way. I would very much feel... But you love these changes they made. You love this team.

You're here at Whistling Straits. You're seeing these guys. I would be discouraged by all. lot of stuff though. Like the Brooks Bryce and stuff. But they're here and they're fucking grinding. Like they're literally grinding. Of course they're grinding. Of course they were grinding. Like they grind at Tormons. They still are putting quotes out there that like are bad for it. They put a couple quotes out there. Like and the media goes fucking crazy. They still want to win, dude.

They still want to win this thing. We've all agreed about that. They still want to win. But no one's arguing that they don't want to win. It's like you wouldn't be as discouraged is my point. Like you're like feeding in. You're the sheep when it comes to the media. Like you're like feeding into these too bad stories. lines which now like we're here no one's even caring about that like they're going crazy when they step up to the t-box they're going crazy they don't care they don't care the two of them don't the two of them don't even care they want to win well you said last week or a couple episodes ago is very true if you watch them on the driving range like they don't actually hate each other like there's not this huge like beef where they see each other every day and they're yelling at

each other like fuck you they see each other on the range and i i get that people are watching so maybe some of it is you know performative or whatever but they're sitting right and next to each other, standing right next to each other, hitting balls, talking a little bit, like, the media has definitely, and we've for sure played into this, I'm not denying that, but we, they don't really care as much as we thought. Bro, they're not, like, it's not fucking Spider-Man versus, like, the Green Goblin. They're not, like, legitimate villain hero people where they go fighting and they throw each other through walls and shit.

They're just, like, they make comments. So it's like to say that that's going to bring down this team. Like, I just don't, I don't know. To me, it's just crazy. Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter literally hated each other for 10 years and they won a World Series together because you just end up doing it. It doesn't mean that the locker room is a horrible place to be in. You just figure it out.

I don't know. If they lose this Ryder Cup, it's not because Bryson DeCampo and Brooks Keppga don't like each other on Twitter. It's because they just didn't play as good golf. Like Bryson pulled a bunch of drives and couldn't keep it on a fair way. That's the reason why they lose. And I don't know. You can not agree with me.

That's my opinion. I just think it's going to come down to the golf. I think everyone here cares. Yeah, I think it always comes down to the golf. I agree. I just think you can do things that make it so that your team is more likely to play their best when it comes to team golf. I think there's a lot that you can do. I think Europe's done a better job of it.

That is the way that I explained the 2 and 7 record. Everybody can disagree. Totally fine. That's just the way that I see it and the way that I explain it. And again, I think if you went and listened to podcasts from 2018, that was pretty in line with the takeaway of like, holy shit, everyone's coming into this after the 2017 President's Cup. when USA won the thing literally on Saturday, it was mathematically over. It was a complete route. Everyone's talking about U.S. has JT.

we have Spieth. We have Berger was at that 2017 President's Cup. Everyone's like, DJ, this is over. Like, we're just going to win every event. And then they lost by seven on foreign soil. And there were the comments in the time. And I think that we had very similar reactions then of like, how does a team that is so good have such a bad performance?

And again, I think you have to, in my opinion, the way that I would try to dissect it is I would look at other extraculicular stuff. and that stuff wasn't going well. So that's the way that I see it. Clearly, we see it differently. I don't think we see it differently. I think they made changes. I think they all looked at it,

and I think this is a different, different U.S. team that we saw in France. We'll see. You don't agree? You don't think it's a different outlook. You don't think that they've assessed the team and the changes. What I do see, clearly, if there's six, like, rookies, it's going to be different personalities.

So there's a change there, whether it was, like, forced or whether they, like, either way, that's a good thing, I think. What you don't know is, like, the other stuff, I think, which is, like, you just don't, like, they're going to put out video-wise, like stuff that makes them look good and they're going to hype it up. What is the other stuff? Like the genuine, like, beers? Beer.

Is it beers? Is it beers? Is it beers? Let's level with us. Because you quote tweeted the joke that Ian Poulter said, or someone said, they've got a ping pong table, we've got a bar. It's like, is that always come down to beers with these guys? How many beers is going to solve this thing?

How come you act like team chemistry doesn't matter? It does it come down to the guy that drinks the most on tour to be a part of the team? Well, no, now you're just being ridiculous. Well, not being ridiculous. Well, yeah, it is. You don't believe that. But every single time we talk about this and every time you've brought up Kiz and you can go back and listen to your points, you say, like, Kevin Kisner makes the point that we should all like go bowling and drink beers together.

Like that is like one of the main reasons he should have been a part of the team. So my question is like what are the other stuff that we're not seeing since they're clearly putting out, quote, unquote, fake reaction videos. Who said that? I'm saying you just said like they put out these videos to try and show publicly that they're all friends. You don't think that they do? Well, my point is like, what's the other stuff

that they should be doing? But then if they do none of that, then you're like, oh, there's no team captain. What's the other stuff? Because you keep saying other stuff, like, what's the stuff they should be doing? What should Team USA be doing today? So here's a good example.

It's like the Patrick Reed stuff from the last Radica. We didn't know any of that stuff was going on or anybody's upset until afterwards when Patrick Reed called the media. and called New York Times and said, yeah, we were fucking pissed. We were upset about this. We were upset with Spee. We were upset with Furik.

When Phil Nicholson went after Tom Watson, he revealed in that press conference like, yeah, when I got sat on Saturday, I was furious. I went to Tom Watson. We don't know those things. We don't know how that's all going. We don't know how those relationships are going. We don't know how those things are going to play out until they play out. So my point is that like, yes, all of it now in terms of the talent, the skill, the captain's picks, the personnel, that service level stuff is very obvious. And I think so far, you're right.

I think, like, having the six rookies, bringing in guys, like, I think Berger is feisty. And, like, there's definitely a chance he could be that kind of polter-like figure or even filling, like, what I was hoping Kevin Gisner would be in the Ryder Cup. Shafelor, I've talked about that positive. But that other stuff that's gotten revealed in a very negative light afterwards, we won't know until the Ryder Cup happens. Okay.

I guess that's hard to speculate on the stuff that is positive that might be happening. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, definitely. But again, I think a lot of that gets revealed in the performance of the team. Like, I think when they go out there and if they're jelling and playing incredibly well, and they've got a lot of faith in each other as, like, teammates, and they're, and they let the, that that propels and builds on itself for them to play their best golf,

and they go out and get the win. Like, I think that that will be revealed that, like, oh, yeah, this is the real team. This is, like, what they've been trying to build. Shouldn't you have waited until after the Ryder Cup then to switch your allegiances? Yeah, because you don't know this stuff's not happening. Just because one guy. all the good things that are happening prior to the year. I know it hasn't been happening for two decades.

Well, yeah, Tom Watson and Phil Mickelson are both tying their white shoes in their home right now. It's not this isn't Tom Watson's fucking rider cup team. Everything you just described about the United States team, you got to be jacked up right now. You're like that, like you just described an unreal team. Daniel Burger, feisty, ready to go. Like these stricker fucking picked a great team. All we know, we have no idea what's going on behind the doors. We don't know if they're drinking beers.

We don't have to play in ping pong. We don't know if they're watching movies. We'll find out after. But shouldn't you have waited until after? there since you just described a great newfound team? What I've said is I'll be the first one to put my hand up if I was wrong and say that I was wrong and say, yeah, this is actually awesome. This is the team USA that I was hoping they would have built.

This is the team USA that I'm excited now going forward. But you see why we're like, he's in the speeds and all that for decades to come has now been part of a fostered winning environment and that's fantastic. You could have easily done that from this side of the fence. Right, but you see like why we're so like you're saying that we're going to have to wait until the end to see if all the stuff that you've been arguing against us is true. And we're like, well, why don't you just come on our side? And we're having like massive debates about if this team is like the team that you're saying they are if they are. And we'll never know until the end.

We're saying we like everything that we see. And you're like trying to explain to us why it's like deep rooted into Tom Watson's fucking Ryder Cup team. It's like, well, no, like we're actually pretty excited about this team. And you're saying, yeah, you should be. But what if at the end, it's everything I'm saying? It's like not a fair thing for us to be on the other side of. You're not letting us win at all. Like it's crazy. It's a debate. said I'll be the first one to put my hand out and say I was wrong. That would be winning. Yeah, but that's like, you're saying, if they win, it's like everything that you said they should

have changed. It's like, no matter what happens, you win. No, but I think there's a chance. I think there's a world where the U.S. eaks out a win and I still think, like, I could not love what I saw. Like, it could be fucking, there could be infighting. There could be clips of, like, some guys bitching at the captain about it. And they, like, I think that's a realistic world where I'm like, yeah, that got it done,

you know, when their favorites they got there, but that's still not like the Team USA going forward. They can go into Rome. They can go into anywhere and get it done. Like, I think that's a possibility. Certainly is a possibility. I think it's, I hope it's unlikely.

Like, I don't want that. That's not what I want. What I wanted was Kevin Kisnerby on this team, this team to then have all the awesome positive traits of a winning team, foster a winning environment going forward. They come here, they win, and we're all happy, but that didn't happen. Beers. It has to, it comes back to beer.

It comes back to beer. It comes back to beer. It comes back to beer. It comes back to those. Those beers, man. They drank 12 to 18 more beers together. How many beers are straw man? How many beers is it going to take?

How many beers is it going to take for this team? I don't know. I don't feel like we've done enough. Look at the straw man. Doesn't feel like we've drank enough beers. You know what else they might need cigars? Here we go. Macanoodos.

Maconudo from General Star. We can all agree on this. True. Can we? I think so. Well, depending on white versus red. I like, I mean, I like them both, but the white cigars are my favorite. What's the name of the white ones?

Inspirado White? Yeah, yeah. Just the best cigar. The best sit back, relax, put your feet up. Maybe you're looking at some water. Maybe you're looking at some trees. We smoked a couple abandoned. It's just there's nothing better for a trip like that than a bunch of macanudo cigars.

They light so easy. They go down. They go into your mouth and out your mouth as nice as anything that goes into my mouth. Just goes in and comes back out. It goes back in and comes back over and over again. and it's just really pleasurable. The Inspirato Orange is the European-based tobacco, medium-bodied, smooth, creamy. You probably like that one.

Citrus flavor. I love that one. The Inspirto white. What was that? Ecuador. It's European-based tobacco. You know, it's kind of hard. I got to admit, it is hard to do a three-week-long debate podcast with people that you're going to just be with for a fucking week's long.

I know. We've been together for fucking a month. And we're just arguing with each other every week and get mad at each other and try to shit down. This crew is, it's a good crew, but this crew can spend six days together. Well, no. We're literally arguing about shit. It's like not that easy to like fucking do that.

But, you know, at the end of the day, it's all about golf, which is good. Ecuador, Connecticut based is the Inspirato White, grown tobacco, volcanic region, yields a ton of flavor, mellow in strength, but lots of flavor. So your guys is the white that you guys love is Connecticut based. The orange which I love is European-based tobacco. How about that? It says that right here in the ad copy. How about that?

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actually being there aside from like an islander's fucking eastern conference finals game you know what i mean like for me this is as this is probably cooler for a fan aspect than it was going to augusta as nuts as that sounds i'm i'm ready for the rowdy crowd right like where we're sitting right now uh in the grand stanza on the first tee the scene on Friday morning here is going to be unmatched. It's going to be like nothing we've ever experienced before. Everyone waking up early like getting here when it's dark

waiting online. Singing singing, running to the fucking grandstand, finding their seat, a comfortable seat at that. Excuse me. These seats are comfortable. More comfortable than I thought they were going to be. We're sitting in them. You're watching this on YouTube. We've been sitting in them for the last probably two hours. However long we've been

doing this shit. Bitching at each other. You just blacked out for two hours as you guys were on. You know what Dylan was here? It feels like a long time. I'm shivering now because the sun went down. It did. I'm literally shaking like a child. But yeah, I'm excited for it. When I say I wanted to be over, I meant for podcast reasons. Like, I don't know that we can talk about this anymore.

I just want the results to happen. The winners are the winners. The losers are the losers. The people that are right are right and the people that are wrong or wrong. That will just happen in a week. That's exciting to know that that's coming. But I do want to just take in the actual moment. I cannot wait to watch the first tee ball.

Go in the air. The crowd go crazy. Here's a question. Do you think Justin Thomas is going to be a guy like Bubba where he gets the crowd going? Or do you think he'll like bask in the silence? I think there's a beauty to the deafening silence on this tea. Speed said he closed his eyes and just swung and it was lucky that he hit the ball. When?

On his first. No way. He goes, I just basically close my eyes and hit the ball. And the fact that I went to the fairways, like the luckiest I've ever been on a golf course. I prefer when they get the. crowd going and they let them cheer through the They were doing that a lot of Solheim. Yeah.

Yeah. It's so unique. You don't see stuff like that. But also the deafening silence is unique because you don't usually get a burst of cheering as the contact is hit. You know what I mean? When Tiger Woods tease off at Augusta National on hole number one, there's that deafening silence.

We're used to that. And then there's like a little bit of a roar after because everyone's Tiger Woods fans, but you're not getting World Series Game 7 type roars after a fucking tee shot and a golf tournament. The other thing I remembered from 2018, I was watching the highlights the other night from 2018 in France was like, Tiger was on the tea and every practice

swing he took, the whole crowd went, oh, oh, oh. So he's literally standing there trying to just take practice. Didn't he hit his first shot? Wasn't it just not a good first tea shot? No, he, well, I know the ones... I didn't it? The ones that I watched, he piped. Okay. A few, like, five

woods he was at off the TV like Ricky hit it in the water it was a hard t-shot there was like all these bunkers were looking at right now we're looking at the first hole at whistling straits all these bunkers were basically water right on the left and then it was a dog leg right so like anybody who pulled it a little bit left it just went in the water I thought I remembered like everyone getting jacked up and he just like kind of pulled it maybe it just went in the rough I also could be completely wrong but um yeah no I'm I'm super excited I'm jacked up for guys to take risks I'm hearing there's a lot of risk reward holes out here with these drivable par fours and They're going to leave them in.

And I'm excited to walk the course and see it. Trent and I are going to kind of be in, like, the crowd. Riggsie Redcoat's got a fucking media pass. It's nice. You're going to be inside the ropes. You're going to be inside the ropes. We're going to be outside the ropes. But hopefully we'll find ourselves in some good positions where we can see some good golf.

I actually don't know if the red coat that I got gets me Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Oh. I think it does, right? Just keep it. Yeah, definitely. Maybe they change it to, like, yellow coats. The crowds, I got to tell you, the crowds were heavy out there. Yeah.

Yeah, dude, we saw them piling in. We were on the driving or just on piling in all day. I mean, the fucking, the merch tent. Shout out Peter Millar. They're over there. We saw Todd Martin today. The guy is... The Silver Fox?

I don't know if I've ever met anyone with such an aura that you just have to, like, laugh and love him as much as Todd Martin. Like, he just requires love and laughter. You see him? You want to hug him. You want to just like smack him a little bit. Be like, whoa. Make me laugh. I was like hitting him on like the back.

How you been, bro? He's like, ugh. It is always a pleasure to see him. It's a pleasure. And we thought we were going to see him in the merch tent, and instead we ran into him. He was walking somewhere else, and we were walking towards the merch tent. And it was just a surprise, and it was a great surprise. Talk to him for about 10 minutes.

Todd Martin's the best, and obviously so was Peter Millar. But it was good to see him. Yeah, he can't. My brother's call me. Kyle. I'm doing podcasts. I call you right back. I know.

Bye. I said, hopefully you're not freezing on the podcast like last time. freezing in a different way like literally frozen which they did Game of Thrones me Todd Martin's the best guy ever The best fox got a silver fucking silver head of hair

And he always looks like a million dollars He's dressing people are clearly And he is a funny motherfucker He goes waiting to you see what we got going on For the Dad Bog Classic this year I was like God man He goes last year was rushed This year's just infinitely

And last year was easily the greatest package Of merch I've ever gotten Oh my God Over the span of four days We're doing stuff. I was like, oh, my God. Think about this. That's in five months.

Like, what's at the top of his mind is like, boys. First thing you said. Wait, you see you see we're doing for the Dad Bodd Clash. We saw Todd Martin, who's at the top of Peter Millar at the Ryder Cup. He's got the best setup inside the Ryder Cup merch tent. The first thing he said to us was about the Dad Bod Classic. That's just not real life. That's what's on that guy's brain.

Yeah, not like, oh, like, do we have enough inventory here? I mean, the place is getting ramshackled. I mean, I've never seen so many people inside a fucking media tent. inside a merch tent in my entire life and it's it's wednesday this thing doesn't start till friday how many millions they're going through in that thing dude i just don't know how they have the inventory i was looking at that like every every shirt every size is in stock and i know it's only wednesday but still the amount of people that were in there you'd think that everyone would just clear it out but instead like they're constantly filling it up dude like the the the ops that go

into this and and a big and a big tournament like this is really insane by the way This is called an event, right? Yeah. What do you mean? Like, you don't call it like a tournament. You don't call it like a championship. I will say, I have been calling it a tournament too much. I don't think you're supposed to.

It's an event. It's like an exhibition and an event. A match? A match. A match. A match. But those are individual matches. This is almost like the tennis talk where it's like there's a match, a game, a set.

If you would ask me before, I would have said tournament. It can't be. That's not right. No. It's literally nothing on tournament based about it. Yeah, you're right. Tournament's not right. It's just the Rider Cup.

Speaking of Rider Cup. event in merchnet how do you guys i mean we talked about before the rider cup 2020 logo i i bought a hat that has and i think it says 20 20 it does it's unfortunate yeah i bought a i bought a hoodie and i bought a bany that i'm sure they say 20 20 20 20 and you know what else i bought i went in there and i got a hat it's and in the beginning of the day when we were sitting around our our breakfast table um in the house i looked at uh ebug who had bought a rope hat uh nice rope hat, you know, it's whistling straights.

It's got the logo on it. And I said, man, something about rope pads make you look like a douche bag. You did say that. You said that. But then I just went into the fucking merch tent and bought myself a rope hat. Like, that is.

I only said it to him because, like, I was really staring at it. I'm like, dude, there's just something about, like, why do we put this little piece of rope on the hat? But then you see it and you wear it. Like, it looks amazing on him. It does. And that's what we said at the table, too,

that, like, you and I are, rope pack guys. You have to be a rope pack guy. Right. And they have facial hair. They have like a bigger head. Yes. And so it just works for them. But then of course, classic Frankie Borelli just went in and bought a rope hat. I've, I've been so jealous. I've seen people wearing some of our rope hats that we sell. We sell like four play rope hats and barstle golf ones. And like they just look. You wear the less than breaking 100. I wear the break in 100 one. That's the rope. That's the only rope hat you wear. Somebody asked me to describe Frankie Borelli to them. I would say, well, he woke up one more. He looked at somebody wearing a rope hat and said, you know what? You look like a

douchebag. And then he went and bought two rope. Right. Smash cut two nine hours later and he's wearing a rope out. I just, you know, it's whatever whatever the time calls for. I will say that your rope is significantly thinner. Less

thick than... Yeah, this is a thick rope. There's something about it. You know, I got the white one, which is nice. The rope just outlines it. Roepats are sick. You don't like a douche. I respect you, swall when you're going to be like, no, I want that. Well, that's why I say you should just went back on your tweet. Right, that's what we do on this podcast. We say one thing and we do the other. That's a perfect example. I literally called this guy a douchebag, and then I wouldn't bought the same hat.

Yeah, it's just, when you put it in writing, it's different. Delete it. That would have been more fun deleting it and acting like it never happened. We're like, I don't know what you're talking about. If I showed up here on Tuesday and just deleted that tweet and was like, let's go baby. I saw it and be like, pull it up. And be like, oh, no, that's what I would have done. I would have deleted it.

I would be honest, in hindsight, I wish I would have done that. Because you're fighting people so much about it. Just you do, really. No, I know, but, like, you have to fight on behalf of Europe. I would have just loved to fight all the people that say I'm not allowed to root for the United States. It's like the same fight. It's just you get to now root for the United States. That's my point.

It's like, if people are going to call you out and be like, no, well, you tweeted this. I'm like, well, now I don't care anymore. I root for United States. But then the problem is nothing you tweak is, like, hold day. No one cares, not that shit, too. Nobody cares. They care. You think they keep a receipt.

It's like the White Sox Dave with him, like, chaining himself to a statue. It's like, you just got to do it. I don't even think about that anymore. I don't know. I'll always think of it as that guy. I'll think of it because John went, Fidelberg went and was like, this is so easy.

I just walked right up here. It was like the cop, bring him a coffee or something. The cop drove by and he was like, look, and they just like keep going. They don't care. That's a great, that's a great reference. Justin Thomas chirp me today.

Yeah, you would mention that. So we were walking off 18 Green, and there's like a big kind of walkway, staircase path, trail, whatever, up this hill. and he was like right in front of me and Rizzi walked by me he uh the Europeans were hitting their shots from the fairway into the green and he goes oh you're gonna stick around and watch your guys and I was like ah that's you know those are my guys or whatever and then he was he was like

how you doing bro how is everything I was like good I was like your shoes are you guys see JT shoes yep they look very cool and he was like these came out unreal right and I was like yeah and then that was pretty much it but his first thing first thing that the you know maybe the top American here, one of the top Americans here said to me was he chirmed me about the European thing. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, I mean, I think that does make sense. SESL. SESL is a buy-now pay-later solution that allows you to get what you want today while paying for it over time

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pick one Saturn Saturn dude how about growing up that's a safe one to shit on it feels Saturn the only reason I brought that up growing up I always would tell my dad be like dude I want to drive a Saturn he'd be like I think that's going to change yeah there's no one car that I wanted to drive when I was a kid was a Mitsubishi eclipse. All right. Because Paul Walker drove one in the first Fast and Furious. I... Oh, really? Oh yeah. It's the car that pulls up. It's that green car.

Yeah. I had the idea and almost closer to rigs. I used to get picked up from the older kids in in like my town. Picked up or picked on? Probably both. But picked up by this kid that lived... That was nice. That lived around me around the block. And he drove this

fucking old-ass, like, Nissan Ultima. It was like beige with like beige interior and like the car like had like a noisy motor and I thought that was so cool it almost sounded like a go-cart so I was like man I want that car like that was my like aspirations is to like look like the senior that had a car you know what I mean yeah like I didn't want like some nice car that was quiet you know what I mean like some fucking totally like I don't know I ended up having my parents like hand me down car and it was nice one was Mazda tribute but it was just like I don't know I was like this car's not we have a tribute

We had a tribute. Yeah, the monster was a nice car. We used to make fun of it all the time. My dad's, he bought it and hated it. Yeah, I had a good thing. He sucks. Dude,

and like, it was nice car. I just thought I'd rather have the shitty one because it looked cooler. He was like lower to the ground. Like the interior. The interior just seemed cool. Dude, my dad bought tribute,

you know, because he's outdoors me. He's like, it's kind of a little SUV thing. It'll be great. And then he tried to give it to my brother because he's like, yeah, like I feel like you're graduate.

You know, you really, you should have this car. He's great. My brother was like, yeah, I'll take it. Awesome. But then after a few years, he too was like, this car kind of sucks. Yeah, dude, I had the tribute for a lot of years.

The tribute. Barstles Sports Store and Shop Now, Pay Later with Sezzell. The other thing I wanted to be growing up was a trash man because they would stand on the back while they drive between. And they would just jump out, sling those things in there, and then just hop on the side. And I was like, that looks like a ride almost. It's the best. You see some of these fucking new age gas. I mean, garbage trucks?

I've seen them in Colorado before. Where they drive down the street and this like claw comes out. Picks the fucking garbage up, throws it in and then goes on its way. It's horrifying. Yeah, that's like big brother could just snatch up like a small child. So, fucking two jobs away from guys. Yeah, that's true. Oh, true.

Yeah, no, I don't like it. I don't like it as much. I don't know what else I wanted to be when I grew up. I used to have my sister like flash the lights in my baseball. in my basement. We used to have like sport court tile on the basement

so I could like skate around like rollerblade and she used to flash the lights and I used to come out to the islander's intro and I used to do it

now entering the Coliseum number 29 I'm like seven years old and crazy and she would and I'd skate around a little circle

and then I'd go to the face off and then they'd go upstairs and like call a therapist That's a good sister Yeah I also dropped me on my head you try to do a Backstreet Boys dance. I see the Backstreet Boys are in sync.

There's one music video. It's a famous one where they actually do a split. And then you step over it. You step over the guy. He grabs him between his legs, flips him forward through his legs, and then the guy supposed to land. She tried that on me when I was four, and I landed on my head. I'm 98% sure that was in sync.

In sync. All right. But that's also the reason why I am who I am. Yeah, like I stopped. I dropped me on my head like that when I'm four. It's damaged. Kids do that, though. Like in the backyard, we had the, uh, uh,

like cement back there with a hoop and I would pretend that I was Michael Jordan making a like I'd count down like five four and he'd always have the fadeaway jumper and I would just turn around and shoot and I would if I missed I would just ignore that it happened and if I made it I'd be like I'm Michael Jordan

yeah dude one time my brother and sister ductate me to a chair and put it in the basement my parents left they went out to dinner or something brother and sister four and five years older than me respectively so you know I'm like fuck let's say I'm eight or something you know and they're like 12 and 13

Dude, they fucking put me in the base, unfinished basement. We had, like, just a basement window, you know, so you could see outside. It was like a lightning out night. Oh, my God. They ducked me to a chair in the basement. And I fucking got so...

I was screaming. I was screaming a lot right now. Right, for sure. And I'm looking out of a horror show, like... I mean, that's terrorism. I was so rattle. I rocked a chair, fell back, hit my head on the concrete floor,

and split my head open. Holy fuck. Holy shit, dude. And then the screaming really changed. They came down and they were like, oh, fuck. Yeah. So then they're like, totally. They're like, oh, my God.

Because when you split your head open with like a tiny little cut, like bleeds like a motherfucker. Sure. There's like blood everywhere. They're like, oh, my God. Ended up being totally fine. And then they at that point, they like begged me to like not say anything to mom and dad. Yeah.

Luckily, it could have just threatened me. It could have been like, we're going to do this again. Yeah. But I think. And again, I was really young. But I think I was like, all right, guys. Just let's all be friends. Yeah.

That'd be cool. That was the smart way to do it. It was to not rat. Totally. I was like... I got dressed up like a female. I did. My sister just dressed me up as a girl.

By the way, I think I did too. I know. I think you said that. I told you guys in confidence. I provided photo evidence and showed it to the internet. Dude, I don't know if I've ever laughed at all that podcast. Yeah,

I remember we cut up a promo clip of just us laughing about it. And we laughed for like 50 seconds. I think I puked. Just because it was so out of nowhere because we're talking about... Can we put it? that clip of when he talks to us? You just said it out of nowhere.

Well, we were, I think we were talking about, I think it was similar topic that we were talking about right now, like how we were picked on or our older siblings did things like tie, you know, duct tape into a chair.

And I was just like, yeah, they used to dress me up as a girl, which is true. Yes. Yeah. I remember that. My sisters used to dress me up as a girl.

Like how dressed up are we talking? Make up? makeup? You were lipstick and like eye shadow. Are you not going to bring that up? I don't know how deep we were going. I don't know.

I didn't know, all right? But I figured if we're all sharing, this is kind of a nice moment for the show. I figured I'd really I'd really, I'd really take it. What happened? We'd wear any skirts? Oh yeah, I'd be wearing a dress.

What? Tread comes... How old are you? Tren comes walking out of the room. He's just in a dress, just like, all right. Am I beautiful? Dude, then I would do the move with my brother when we'd be, because we play video games in the basement. And if he'd always beat me, because he's fucking older than I wasn't better at it.

And then I would just, if he was being mean or something, I would just go, Ow, Mom! Oh, that's classic. She would come down and be like, Kyle, what are you doing? and he would be like, I didn't do anything. And I'd be like, he just had no chance. He'd be like, you're so fucking dead.

Like my sister once turned the channel on me. Like, she just changed the channel. I threw a pen and hit her in the eyeball, and she almost lost her vision. I was rattled. I was just like, fucking take this. And it just tossed a weapon at her. And it just hit her eyeball.

And she was like, Mom. No offense to people who are an only child, but like, having siblings is one of the weirder experiences you have as a person. Yeah. Because you're just, it's people that you grow up in a house with. You spend all your time together and weird shit happens. You hate them, you love. Right.

I'm crazy. I mean, I'm super tight with them, but, you know, there's 10-year gap between me and my oldest sister. So I didn't have as much young interactions with her as much as they did. But my other sister, where I think we're only five or six years apart. But yeah, it is weird that, like, you're watching them grow up. And then, like, you're seeing things that they're doing. And then, like, you're then doing it. It's very weird to be in different parts of your life all living in the same.

I remember when I was young. You're like roommates, but you're five years apart. So my older brother and sister are six years older than I am. And they would start to throw parties in high school. And I'd be like, this is wrong. What's going on right now? They're underage and they're drinking. That's what's happening right now.

I'm not going to tell anybody, but I know that this is wrong. Smash cut to six years later doing the exact same thing. Dude, I remember I was in the same boat. And then they probably yelled at you, like, you shouldn't be doing this. Right, they're like, I've fucking watched you do this. Right, right. I remember because, like, my brother's, you know, friends would be, who I'm like very good friends with now, but they'd get, like, fucked up, you know, at these parties and, like, come hang out with me. And I'd be like, what the hell is wrong with you people?

Right, they change. You guys do it. Yeah, why are he different than you were three hours ago? Just talk normal to me. Like, what? What? Yeah, it's women's life. It is strange.

I was say, I think also not having, you guys have brothers, so not having brother, so not having brother, definitely. scoped me out to be who I, I'm, there's a reason why I am why I am. It's definitely because I didn't have a brother that would just, like, beat the shit on you when I was a little brat or like an asshole, you know what I mean? Yeah, I had like sisters that just, like, thought I was the best thing in the world. So it's like, I walk around. You're God's gift to the earth. God's gift to the earth.

You know, the third, Frankie Borelli. They literally weren't going to take over the restaurant. They weren't, yeah, I was supposed to. They weren't, they weren't going to have another kid, I don't think. That's why they're such a gap. You were a mistake. Wait, say again? No, they weren't going to have another child, I don't think.

Maybe they were, but they waited a little bit. No, no, I was the opposite. My grandfather, Frank Borelli Sr., like, demanded that they continuously try and have kids until he gets a third. He wanted, like, the name to keep going on because there was no other Borelli boy. His other two daughters, they married. So, like, my dad's the only Borelli. Right. You know what I mean?

So he had to have another Borelli. Like, I have to have, my dad will stand over me and force me to have a thousand children, I think. Right? You know what I mean? I don't think it'll let it. if I just keep popping out girls, I don't know when it ends. He'd just be like, again. Again.

Miracle. Again. Roman swipes. No, no Roman swipes. You want the opposite. He's just going to take that thing off himself. You keep going, kid. My point is that I'm pretty sure that that's what happened.

Like, they say, dude, like, they didn't get, they didn't know what my sisters were going to be. They just got surprised. Sure. And, like, when they went, like, three months into the pregnancy with me, they all had, like, a massive party at the doctor to make sure it was a boy. When it was a boy, he like, my grandfather looked at, like, my parents were like, okay, you're good.

All right, everything's fine. And then my little shit came out. Dude, when I was trying to, when I was being a brat and my brother and sister wanted to be really mean to me again, they would be like, they would always do the accident thing. It'd be like, yeah, you know, like, mom and dad didn't want you. Yeah, that's classic. And I'd be like, yeah, and I'd be like, don't you think it's weird that, like, we're both one year apart and you're four years later?

Dude, I got so much of that. Because obviously mine was harder to disprove because I was on the front page of the paper. That's a gigantic baby. I just pulled that up. Big baby. I just pulled that up at dinner two nights ago. I pulled up that picture. I googled that.

I saw a Trent Big Baby picture. It's right there on Google. Only one that I know. Is that what it says? Big baby? Is that big baby? I showed it to my girlfriend's family. They couldn't believe it.

Nobody believes it. We had to do research to like see like it was like a C-Sysol. section or natural birth. Like, we couldn't believe it. It was, uh, it was a C-section. It's right there on the newspaper. It's like, yeah, that's, I'll tell you, newspapers are, have changed a lot.

It's there. Because they give you, back then, they would give you a lot of information. He gave out the home address of my parents. Is it on the newspaper? No way. Um, it's on that one. They don't live there anymore, so it doesn't matter anything. But like, but like, but yeah, it says like,

Trent fan showing up at the former house, but it says like, these two live at blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The reason why I said that we had to look that because we were like, imagine a 14 pound baby going through the pelvis. I don't know if that's possible. Come on. I don't know if that's possible. I know. Come on. You and my mom are good friends now. Yeah, what happened? What happened? What do you mean?

What happened recently? She texted you? Yeah, we were texting back and forth after I left Cedar Rapids and she was just like, have a great week, you know, and also tell Frankie Brelia. This is unbelievable. Yeah. And, you know, the sickos on the internet are saying like, oh, you know, your mom's got a crush on Frank. It's not that. She, like, thinks of you as another son. Watch out Gary. No, come on. This is not what I want. Joy thinks of you as another son. Joy to the world is what I say.

This I don't like. This is getting... This I don't like at all. We're going to go there maybe. Should we do an ad read? Yeah. And then we can talk about that. Do you like us do an ad read, Trent?

Yeah, let's do it. We're still on... I want people to realize that you've been listening to this. I'm sure you've heard the wind a little bit. Maybe not. Just, yeah, ever so often. I see, I see. We're just still at the fucking grandstand at Whistling Street's Rider Cup, just sitting here by yourself.

We are now officially. Those people are even right up there at the top. Right. We are now officially... What are you doing over here? Who? Oh. Where are you? We guys got a Wisconsin hoodie on.

What's up, dude? What's it up? We just got one stool who just sitting here listening to the whole show. She's getting a free... You got a free show. It's a live show. What's your name? Alex.

Come over here, Alex. Before you just add, you. We got an extra mic for you, Alex. Is this thing on, Jake? All right, we got Alex, who's been sitting here listening to us, do this show. He's been, like, just staring at the Wisconsin hoodie on, so you got the local guy. You got John Deere, uh, sponsored hat on.

Oh, Eastlake. You look like you work in the golfing. Talk into that thing. Put that wrap on your face. That you good. Let me guess. Let me guess you. You work on a turf team at a golf course?

Fango was. Fucking right, dude. He looks like it, you know? Yeah. You just look like a turf guy. I feel unbelievable. Got the beard. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. You throw a lot of that. Plus, you cake on sunskewing. You're out there on the busy days. Dude, also your hats got... My ginger ass meat. Constant. John Deer, but it's also got a little bit of dirt all in, like,

Like sweat all over it? The sweat is how I knew because he's a hard-working man. I had to get the red, white, and blue going. Totally. No, you're a hard-working man. I totally appreciate that. So where you from, really? So I'm from a little town.

I always tell people if this is Wisconsin. I'm from right here. Right in the heart of it? Right in the heart of it. You just put his palm up and it's right in the middle of his palm. Right. So all this like farmland we've been driving through, is it kind of like where you're from? Yeah.

Just a lot of nothing? Yeah. Don't let him talk to you like that. What? I mean, it is amazing. It's not nothing out there. That's feeding this country. It's feeding the world.

We had a good conversation about that driving. I'm just like, these people are living the same lives that people lived 200 years ago. These people. You people. These people. All right. What was your name again? Because I'm so bad.

I'm so bad. You just don't listen to it. His name's Alex. Alex, Alex, Alex. Alex, Alex. Alex. What are you doing here? You're just here to watch the Ryder Cup?

Yeah, here to watch the Ryder Cup. I get in free every day through the GCSAA and the WSGA. So I'm living in Milwaukee now working at a country club. GCC golf course. Superintendents. Superintendents. Of America. You know, I actually had a phone call.

It hits a lot of letters. What's his name? I don't remember. I was just going to ask you. Phone call with the president of it. Of the GCSA. Yeah, it changes every year. Oh, they do every year?

Yeah. Every year it's a different superintendent. What's your job? What do you actually? So I'm an assistant superintendent. Okay. Unreal. Is there a CEO of the GCSA?

I think it was enough letters. He's got some crazy name. Yes. God, I can't even remember his name right now. Whatever. This guy goes like, I remember we were supposed to have a phone call about possibly doing, we were supposed to do a behind the greens with the GCSA. I was like trying to get them involved.

And he was like, I'm going to, I'm going to hike like Mount Kilimajaro. I'll be back in three months. I was like, I just... That's not going to work. Rhett Evans? Red. That's it. Rhett.

What a name. Which is a name that we... People think that we should call Garrett, who has the worst name of all time. Red. That's much better. Sounds like a... Garrett.

Frog. But, dude, Rhett was a very nice man. Great guy. Shitty name. I hope that everything went well with his excursions. All right, so you're out here. You're from the heart of Wisconsin. Right in the middle of his palm.

Right in the middle of your palm. You're here to watch the Rider Cup. Have you ever been to a... event like this ever is your first experience so i worked at aaron hills on the grounds crew for the u.s open unreal yeah i loved that place i worked with hanky-panky yeah so i got volunteering hanky's a shout out to hanky-panky one of our favorite you ever go to erin hills request hanky-panky on the bag he's a good guy he's awesome so what's your history with golf course maintenance like how did you let how how how is this your life like why why that i started off working at the local

country club when i was 16 and i just like liked being outside. Yeah. My worst nightmare is working a cubicle. Breach. Nine to five jobs. So I started working there, really liked it. Then I moved over to Sand Valley.

I was on the build crew there. Holy shit. Build crew. Yeah. You built a golf course. Mammoth Dunes, yeah. Unreal. With Damocle kid.

Sculpting, like digging out fucking bunkers and shit. Shaping. Shaping. Shaping. Shaping. Shaping. A lot of hydroceeding. Whoa.

Look at this. Hydro seat. What hell is that? Um, so basically it's a big tank with this like cotton fiber that you put into it with a bunch of water. And that acts like the, like you ever see newly seeded grass with hay over it to keep the moisture in. It does that, but it like sprays it out and it cakes it on. I love to explain that to us like we were five. That was really, really informative.

That was huge. Hey, most things I need explain to me like I've got five, so that's just how I explain. Right. Thank you. What's his name? Alex. Yes. Oh.

Yeah, that was a good one. Good thing. It's easy to remember. It is. It's right there in the top of the office. Dude, that's amazing. You ever have any accidents? Accidents?

Yeah. Or drive something into like a lake or you ever do anything stupid? Honestly, the only accident I ever had, it was actually in the winter. Snow removal. I was in a bobcat and I had a brush on the front and I just smoked a pillar on the side of our clubhouse. I got a little bit too close. That's what we were looking for. Knocked a shitload of bricks off.

But, no, I've seen guys. drive mowers into ponds. Dude, I used to work valet. I just backed a car into a parked car went to right into it. You ever watch that series on Amazon, Red Oaks? No, no.

It's like about country club life. Really? Yeah, but it's set back in the 80s and like opening scene, it's a bunch of valets smoking weed at a country club and it's like, oh my God, I know those stoners. I've never heard of that.

It's a catty javic series. Yeah, it came out a couple years ago and I actually found it this past summer And I was like, oh, this is a good little recommendation from Alex. Yeah. Do I finally watch the Marty Fish documentary? It's spectacular. I got to, yeah, I've actually watched a little bit of the beginning of it

And you can tell it's going to be really good. And my buddy watch it. He said it's a phenomenal documentary. It's very inspirational, I would say, which I, like, I didn't expect. Oh, he's overcome. Oh, how much he's overcome? He, like, totally re-basely, like, reshaped his entire life

and then, like, suffered mental health. and then has overcome that, but talks about how he still fights it every day, and he's just the man. He's awesome. Really good. So you look at a course, like Whistling Straits, like, I mean, as a turf guy and a guy who works in a golf course, like, what are you seeing from the course right now? Like, are you excited for this Ryder Cup?

Do you think it's going to show its teeth? As the people in the golf industry, like to say? Show its teeth. Especially with the weather outlook for this week, it's not going to rain. It's going to be windy. It's going to help the course really dry down, and they're going to get everything dialed in. Fuck you. You guys hate rain, huh?

What? You hate rain? Uh, depends. If it's a normal week, I love rain because, especially if it's paired with lightning, I work maybe five hours that day as opposed to 16. That's a good point, yeah. But, like, especially preparing for turn.

The lightning's awesome. Oh, light makes the best. It's like, boom, there we go. OSHA says I get 30 minutes indoors at least. That's awesome. It is such a grind. It's just like that little bit of drift. That's constant through a day.

That's what sucks. You guys industry is insane, man. It's an absolute grind. You're never not working. And it just seems like it's endless. It's an endless, endless, endless, endless, thankless job. You're just constantly fucking working on golf courses. Alex, don't go anywhere.

Whoop.com. I'm going to check my whoop status right now, actually. Oh, we too. God, we died. Mine was almost dying the other day, and it's just been getting beat. But I will say that I was at a, like, record strain. with my whoop. My brother and them texted me the other day. I was at like 20.6.

Oh my God. I'd have been when we were at Bandon. Probably. We were doing so much water for stuff. Yeah, I had like a 16.5 at Bannon, which I thought was pretty high for me. I'm an 81% today. I got 7 hours and 57 minutes of sleep last night. I noticed trend checks as Woop. So much that it's like unbelievable. What do you mean?

You just like are always on the app. Like every time I look over your shoulder and try and read your text messages, you're always you're always on Woop. Well, what is going on is I always keep it open. That's what I've noticed. I never close to time. Every time at your phone to see who you're texting, it's crazy how I always see that whoop thing. Because when we first got it, they said the way to keep it up to date with what's going on, you always leave it

open. It's the app that is always open. So yeah, I mean, I love my whoop. And I really do use it every single day. I track my strain. I'm addicted to tracking my sleep. Check your heart rate a lot. Is that something you're probably scares you so you don't? What was I? Big baby. What was I nervous about earlier today? When Bryson was walking over. Yes. I noticed it. Yes. I was looking to see your texting, and I ended up looking at your phone. I can't talk shit about Frankie, my text, I guess.

We'll see him. I saw him. So Bryson walked over to us and threw a... He hasn't talked to us, by the way. I think it's officially over. I think it's safe to say. He hates us. And, like, his team hates us.

They all looked at us with disgusted... I mean, it's impossible to ignore us where we were standing behind him on the driver range, and he did. He looked me in the eye and kind of just looked down. it like it was like he wanted to physically stop the vision in between us and then walks over to us throws up uh which is a very nice move i called it an all-time good guy move he tossed a you're trying to cater to him a little bit yeah i filmed this interaction i saw it happening a little kid screaming little kid screaming bryson brison he ignored him the whole time while he hit bombs and then walked

over and threw him two signed gloves him and the kid next to him so i thought that was a great move But that moment he walked over to us. And there was like that thought that maybe Bryson is going to say something. And Trent was standing there. It didn't happen. He didn't fucking say anything to us. But I looked over at Trent to say like, holy shit, what a moment. And Trent's on his whoop app looking at his heart rate.

I felt myself getting nervous. Yeah. And I was like, when I'm at this level of nervousness that I'm at right now, I want to know what my heart rate said. 88. Whoa. That's not bad. Yeah, because I was surprised by it too. I thought it was going to be in the triple digits.

Right. No, it was definitely going, but I could just feel like it was beaten faster than usual. Because not only did I think Bryson might say something, I thought he might say like, it's over guys. Like, we're never talking again. Right. So I thought it could get contentious like that. Instead, he looked right through us like we were played a glass. He did DM that to me.

He's DM that to me in the last few months. Right. It's over. And Frankie's right. It's over. Like, it's over. Oh, it's over. Today it was bad.

Today it's over. But if you want to check your Rup like me when you get nerds, and see what your heart rate is at, get yourself one. What a cool little tool. It is cool. I like tracking that. Cool little tool. Whoop.com, W-H-O-O-P-O-P-com, code 415, F-O-R-E-5, and you get 15% off.

So go to whoop. com, get situated, get set up, get whoop, get your account, and you can check your info like that. And if Bryson hates you, too, you can check your heart rate when he walks by. At whoop.com, code 415, F-O-R-E-15. We're getting a sunset over Lake. Oh, fuck. This is going to be Lake.

Don't say it. All right. All right, so... There's five of them. So it's Lake Michigan. There it is. There we go. That was a pretty good hint, if we're going to be honest.

You just gave him, like, the name. I would have maybe said Lake Erie. Okay. Which I think is in... That's where Cleveland's at. Okay. That's the mistake on the lake. Alex is helping him.

He is. You said the mistake on the lake? Cleveland? Cleveland, Ohio. Oh, mistake on the lake. Fuck, man. She got murdered. You guys just said, who...

Cleveland just got absolutely. Is he fucking destroyed? No, I just have to have Cleveland be the shitty city on the lake up north so that Milwaukee looks at least a little better. It flew into Milwaukee. I don't notice much about Milwaukee. A bucks and six, baby. Bucks and six.

I think I threw a lime scooter in the Milwaukee River that night. You know somebody might come after you now that you just said that. You know what, though? You didn't get my last name. No, we didn't. How many Alexes? There's a ton of Alexes in the world. Yeah, a ton of Alexes in the world.

A ton of Alexes that work at the fucking golf courses that live in the heart of fucking. Ah, shit. You know? That's all right. It'll be fine. Damn. I think you're okay. If they can track me down, they deserve to get my, what's one of those costs?

Like, $200. Yeah, I think you're fine. I'm fine. What else? We got anything else? Because I'm starting to fucking freeze up here. Yeah, it's cold out here. I'm excited to eat dinner.

Yeah. I'm going to get a beer. Bears, you know? Yeah, we're going to be such good friends. Bears. We might go win the Ryder Cup. Who knows? What are we doing?

Are we playing on doing what we were thinking about doing? or is that out of the picture? Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. That feels like it's out of... That feels like it's out of the picture. It's an hour. From here, it's like... Yeah, 45 minutes out.

I think we still try and do it, boys. We'll talk about it. So what I'm talking about, and I'm going to publicly say it, so now we have to probably do it is... We know, we're not. We don't have to. We don't have to.

We don't have to do it. There you go. See, you're getting it. Wow. What a teed up, baby. If you got a chance to do it, go see it. Bro, they're saying that we can go to Lambo tonight and walk through the tunnel

and go on the field. Like, to me, that seems like an absolute, fucking no-brainer. So we had to sign this thing. Only, like, three of us could go on. Our other guys just couldn't even make it. So it's like, I think we got to go. You got to go. It's an all-time sports moment.

No, I agree. Well, you're hungry. Oh, you fucking. You hungry? Why are you going to make it like a child? Like adults are hungry. Just stop at a Culver's on the way up there. Stop at a what?

Colvers. Colvers. Oh, is that. Colvers is good. Colvers is really good. I text him a picture every time. Oh, it's fast. Like burgers?

Yeah. It's good. Really good ice cream. Yep. Oh, yeah. We should take you to a Culver's. I think we go to Lambo and we go to Culver's. Okay.

I'm not opposed to that. That's a Wisconsin night for you. Is it? And maybe we finish it off with a spotted cow. Maybe find some cheese curds. Did you do that just so I would go? You threw the beer there? Yeah.

If you want a really good burger that's close to Lambo, go to Krolls east or west. One of the cralls. It's right across the street from Lambo. Okay. And they have amazing. It's true. I just said probably his dream walking on Lambo through the tunnel.

Yeah, he was like, every in the palm of Wisconsin person dreams of Lambeau Field. And we're acting like we may not go. We have to go. For Alex. For Alex. Do it for me, Frank. I will. I will walk through that. I will walk through that tunnel and I will go on that field.

Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. It's free. Are we done? It's cold. Yeah, I don't got anything else. It's a riot. People, I mean, what day is it today?

Today is Thursday. Also, people will not hear us until after one of them. is correct or not correct or who knows what happens. The next show probably will just do, I imagine we'll do an emergency show Sunday night. Send it out, put it out. Just put it out and be on our way. So let's go team USA.

Trent, let's go, baby. We're going to be here on Friday morning. This place is going to be fucking crazy. I can't wait for it. Riggs is going to be boo-hooing himself down the fairway, rooting for Europe with fucking Lee Westman. Yuck! Yuck!

I like Lee Westwood. It's going to be fun. Golly. We don't. Not this week. We don't. Be the more guy. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Thanks, Alex.