Fore Play - Lurch Returns
Episode Date: January 17, 2023The big fella returns to the show. We catch up on: diets, health, pickle ball, Alistair Docherty’s start on the Korn Ferry Tour, the ace and Fore The Cut bets hitting at the Sony, our upcoming week,... Riggs’ new grip, the crew tubing together and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Oh, Rick!
What's up, my brother?
I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot.
He'll know, his name's Frankie Burrilli.
So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butterknives because he always knives to cross the green.
Brok of 100.
Now you've got to break 90.
We appreciate what you guys do for golf.
It's been really cool.
Thank you.
You're making it cool.
we appreciate it.
I was like, hey, Phil,
you only fucking $29.99.
And he grabs 100.
He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday.
He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself.
What?
What are you guys different with?
It's ain't a hobby.
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We've got a big show today.
We've got the return of the lurched man,
the big fella with a huge wallet find right before we hit record.
But boy, oh, boy.
was the video of Lurchy coming around the corner at Paines Valley so well received that we said
we got to get the big guy back on at the beginning of 2020, and see what's going on.
So Lurchy fellow, welcome back to the podcast.
Well, let me tell you, the wallet find is peace of mind.
And that gives you everything because you can't really do anything in life if you don't
have your cell phone or your wallet.
Half your body, half your existence is gone.
So that's a pleasure to kick things off before we get gone.
but yeah, I didn't even see that promo coming
because, like, you know, I'm still on the group thread,
but I don't, I don't, I'm not even part of it.
It just kind of goes on without me really even chiming in it all.
And then the video with the people going wild gave me a chuckle
where I was like, I didn't see that coming,
but Jake Bass, eBugged, whoever put that together, Bush, like,
that's a job all done because that gave me a pretty funny laugh.
And I don't even remember having my legs swing as much as I did
as I moved from left to right.
But I will say that property is as big as a property can be.
It's expansive.
And I had to find you guys from God knows where I started in a golf cart.
And there's no real like GPS thing there.
So at least I don't remember it.
I was trying to figure out how to get to the right hole.
And when I saw you guys,
I got so excited.
But then I had to like cut back swerve.
And you know,
so excitement was hot.
And I found my way there.
If you would have given me the task,
If you started me at the front entrance and said, go find the 10th hole of Paines Valley,
I'm out there forever.
I'm still there right now looking for it.
It is an insanely difficult place.
I mean, even leaving the 18th hole of Paines Valley takes 25 minutes to get up to the top to the cabin.
So it is, it's a, it's a property for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just not really a spot.
Yeah, it's not really a spot that you could just, that you could just get down there to.
And then we know how to explain it.
We're like, yeah, you just got to go down the giant cliffs.
And then where's.
buy a pod. Like, you just need to, you just need to find us. And it took a while. There's 32 pawns out
there, too. So it's not, you know, that's not so descriptive, but I appreciate the effort. It was.
Alert. You just found your wallet. I just came back from a ski house for the weekend. And I got this
notification. All these new Apple pieces of technology basically alert you when you've left it. Like,
if you have like new AirPods or an iPad or a MacBook, you don't even need the tags anymore, but the piece is
actually letting the piece of technology is letting you know that you've left it behind. So I had my iPad
with me at the ski house. We're there the whole weekend. Obviously a huge cleanup today and you don't
know what's being left in Pennsylvania and what's not and you're hoping that you got everything.
And all of a sudden I get this notification like an hour into the drive. Like you've left like you are no
longer near iPad and like the and the location was just in Pennsylvania. So now I'm on like the major
Dagan wherever the fuck I am. I'm like about to go over the cross Bronx, go over the,
uh, the, the, the, the tri borough bridge. And all of a sudden,
I'm like, we have to stop the car.
The car has to stop.
And I have to like check what's going on because I've got this notification.
Turns out the iPad was dead.
And it just alerted me that like the last time it got a signal was last night.
And it didn't give me that information that like the time is.
It just said that you've left it behind.
So I'm in a panic driving on the fucking highway being like, you can't do that to me.
You have to be a hundred percent sure that that's not on my persons.
I agree.
There's good technology out there and there's bad technology.
I'll put that in the bad bucket.
Big good bucket is the Wi-Fi share thing that you get and you click and your buddies
and it just says share and there's no 30 to that.
That's the best.
I had a buddy say no to me yesterday on that.
I had a buddy.
I actually thought I should have punched him.
I actually thought I should have to go now into the group chat and try and find
when like your girlfriend put the fucking Wi-Fi password in there.
There's a million texts about dinner.
Is it a deliberate?
He's like,
he looked at me from across the room, smirked and hit.
cancel. He was the only one around. That could have been. He goes, he goes, I just say no.
He goes, I'm just going to choose to not allow you to have the password right now.
I'm not going to ski house and that's one bar and there's, you don't have good connectivity.
So that he like owns you. He fully controls you. Yeah. Dude, I bought a bunch of those Apple tags a few months ago and they're great. I slip him in my golf bag and in all the luggage that I have.
It's weird. It feels illegal even when I'm doing it to myself. There's something about putting a tracker onto something that just feels inherent.
wrong, but it's the best little thing that you could buy.
If you travel a ton, you just slip it into like a pocket that you don't normally use on the luggage.
And you know where it is at all times.
Even when you fly, the airlines will tell you kind of where the bags are generally.
But if you have the tags, you know if they're on the flight 100%.
And it is, it's a life hack.
Do they not die?
They really don't.
They like, they, I don't know how, I don't know if they're fucking solar power.
They like, they stay.
I have them and I don't even.
I will say nobody, there's no comment that just general people on the internet like to make more than if you say you lost your luggage and then they get to say that you should have had an air tag in it.
That's just the favorite.
They just love doing that.
Everybody loves doing that.
They do it all the time.
All the time.
It's insane.
The worst thing to get to is like, I love that nobody plays the airline.
It's like, the airline will say like, all your bags on this flight, but it's not on the flight.
So it's like, yeah, they fucking left your bag and skis.
Got one for 42 days.
Those tags do kind of fuck airlines.
If they want to lie to you about, oh, no, it's going to get on the next one.
And the next one.
Like, when we went to abandon, they kept saying, it's going to be on the next one.
It's going to be on the next one.
It's going to be the next one.
With Apple tags, they can't lie.
They can't say, oh, it's actually here and it's on its way.
It's just sitting in Denver somewhere.
I know it.
I can see it.
You know, it's another funny piece of bad technology that's out there to be on the topic is when you're flying
and you're connected to Wi-Fi.
And then you get a push notification that says your planes landed.
and your bags are over at, you know, baggage claim six, and you're still in the air.
It's like, no, I mean, I haven't landed yet, and this is just ridiculous.
You think you're in that horrible TV show where they like, they went back in time in the air?
What was that fucking show that just, I think it only lasted one season or, oh, no, it lasted a bunch of seasons actually.
Yeah, a bunch of lost, lost.
No, no, no, no.
Imagine if he couldn't come up and lost.
No, it's like, it was a more recent one.
Is it called Manifest?
It's called Manifest, basically these.
People are on the plane.
They get a little bit of turbulence.
They land and everyone's waiting for them outside the plane being like, what the fuck?
Like you've been gone for 20 years.
Like where'd you guys go?
Like we thought.
And then it should have been one of the greatest shows ever.
Like they're coming back to like this light.
I heard it's horrible.
It's the worst show ever with the best idea.
Like, you know, they're coming back and there's like, there's, you know, their wives have new husbands.
And they're like, what do you mean?
I took a two hour flight.
Like I just came back from work.
Like, you know, you know, they're coming back.
Like, yeah, we hit a little bit turbulence.
What do you mean we have like a, our kid is in college now?
This is insane.
And then, dude, they started like incorporating like ghosts and shit.
And it was, it got weird.
It got really weird.
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everywhere. I got into a big debate with a couple guys this weekend about turbulence. And I guess
they came in from New York, flew into Phoenix, hang out. And I guess for whatever reason on Thursday,
it was like the worst turbulence ever in the last 30 minutes landing from that direction in Phoenix.
And I was like, man, that's pretty, that's scary. And that somebody was like, well, actually,
no, like no planes ever crashed in history due to turbulence. And I was like, well, I was like, well,
whole like let's back up a second here like there's no there's no scenario in which a plane is
like less likely to crash if it's shaking all over the place in the air and i'm not that's right
i'm not saying just like general turbulence is the direct reason but like i have to think that
when a plane went down due to horrific weather over the ocean it it wasn't like man i wish this would
just been more turbulent and we would have never crashed.
Like it had to be,
it has to be horrifically turbulent
before planes crash most of the time or like
involved in a lot of the time.
So I was like in general, your mindset
must just be better if it's just
not shaking uncontrollably, right?
Was the person who said a plane has never crashed
due to turbulence on the flight that they were referring to?
Yes. And they
they. Interesting. Yes. And they were arguing, again, they were like,
well, you understand like stats are
no plane has ever crashed like due to turbulence.
I just was like I don't I we we weren't getting very far on it because it
again it's like there's all these other reasons that planes crash I think also happen to
involve a turbulent experience throughout the process.
Oh I would also venture to guess and I've never been on a plane that has crashed knock on wood
but I'd imagine that moment or those moments feel a lot like turbulence.
So you in your head as you're on a plane that has turbulence and we had a pile we had a
pilot on like a like a year ago or whatever who said he was fantastic and he said pilots don't worry
about turbulence and that has helped me with turbulence when I'm on a plane but I still think about
like when turbulence is happening I'm still scared for for the most part it was tough timing because
that plane went down in Nepal yesterday and it's just like you know that commercial airliner
went down 75 people passed away and that and the guy was live streaming the video did you guys see
this? No. Well, unfortunately, I watched it. Unfortunately, I watched it and I would never
like wish that upon anyone else. I don't know why I watched it. It just came across my, my desk.
And usually things that come across my desk are a lot better than that. But boy, oh boy, is this,
it was a bad man. The guy was basically filming himself on, on, on Facebook being like, we're about to
land, like coming into Nepal. And then it just fucking took a nose dive. And then all of a sudden,
the next, the next scene is just fire and people screaming.
And it was, like legit, like a horror movie.
I didn't even come across my,
it didn't even come across my desk.
I don't know what the reasoning was.
I know like Nepal is one of the craziest,
um,
landing areas like in the world.
If you watch it on YouTube,
I don't know,
Lurch might know more about it,
but apparently that runway is like out of this world.
Like you're going over.
They literally would like clip fucking power lines just like landing
because everything's so tight and like built over around the airport.
Um, interesting.
It's a wild fucking scene.
It's that, yeah.
No, it was bad.
It's bad.
That's as heavy as it gets there.
You know?
I'm sitting here.
Well, the problem is that I'm sitting here listening to you guys talking about.
Never know what you're going to get like a plane crashing.
And I'm thinking about this thing that I watched yesterday.
And I'm thinking about this tragedy that just happened.
And I'm like,
I was even thinking about it without you guys bringing that up because I can't stop thinking about it.
I don't know why I watched that video.
I got a fly tomorrow.
I might take a train.
I might take a train to Florida.
Wow.
It's also one of those situations.
I'm going to force Trent to watch it because I had to watch it.
I know.
I can already feel like coming.
I know.
Nepal, have you guys watched the earthquake documentary on Netflix?
No.
No.
It's all about with that area and whatever, yeah, whatever year it was where it's like Mount Everest and then a couple other valleys and the earthquake hits.
And it's, I think it's like a three-parter.
I got through the first two.
And it is one of those again.
That's very heavy, very, very.
I didn't watch that one.
I did watch, I watched that volcano one from New Zealand.
That was insane.
I haven't watched that one yet.
I watched the Alpinist the other night.
And that's as dark as it gets too.
You know what I mean?
Like that's,
that rifts your heart out.
Dude,
Frankie recommended that to me.
That's a weird recommend.
That's a Frankie recommendation.
It's like the number one show on.
Yeah,
it was,
I mean,
it was always popping up on my,
on my Netflix.
And I was like,
oh,
all right,
maybe I'll watch it.
And then Frankie had said,
watch this.
Didn't tell me anything about it,
really.
And I saw I'm watching it.
I'm watching it.
I'm watching it.
The thing happens.
And I,
I called Frankie.
He was in the middle of a restaurant somewhere.
And I was just yelling into my phone.
Do you remember that?
Dude,
because you just recommended it like,
oh,
you could watch this,
you know,
this rom-com or you could watch the alpinist.
I was like,
I'll watch the alpanist.
Both are rom-coms.
I watched it.
And then the ending happens,
and I so couldn't believe it
that I just called him and started yelling.
Because it is,
it's a stunner.
But that one,
yeah,
that's dark.
It's dark.
I also finally watch Molly's game.
No,
you didn't.
I did.
No,
you fucking didn't.
How good is that movie?
It's good.
It's not Scent of a woman.
Come on.
It's not even close.
It was on a plane.
I was like,
oh,
here's Molly's game.
Boom.
Watch it.
You know,
it's good.
It's real good.
It's just not Scent of a woman.
It's not even close to Senn of a woman.
I got to watch Sennive a woman.
I've never seen Sene of a woman,
so I can't even argue at this point.
But I mean, gosh,
that's just such an entertaining movie.
You know,
When I'm on the pot in a year, I hope that you watch it by that time.
So we'll get you to catch up in a year.
Maybe they have it on the plane tomorrow.
All right.
We got much to get to.
What are our videos coming out this week?
Do we got a Bushman from the clouds there?
What a conversation we just had to.
Lurch coming back and then we just get into fucking some deep dark shit right there.
That's which I would even say Lurch is like a big bringer of deep dark conversation.
It's not usually part of your.
It's usually like how many bagels you ate for breakfast on Saturday.
Not.
Yeah.
Not to live streaming.
Real quick before we get into the housekeeping stuff, I did go to a ski house.
And I did not ski.
Is that a weird thing to do?
You know, I enjoyed myself.
I just didn't feel like getting hurt.
It's one of those things we're about the travel a lot.
It's the beginning of the year.
I'm not the best snowboarder.
You guys have seen me on skis before.
So that wasn't an option on water.
I don't even know if we've seen you on, technically on skis.
No, no, you've seen me strapped in.
But that's a bad thing.
Skis or near your person.
I think that video is actually coming out this week.
Alex,
you can jet in here and let me know,
but I'm pretty sure that video is now.
Yeah, that's episode three.
So that'll be coming out Thursday.
Okay,
so Thursday is my first attempt at water skiing ever.
When we played,
what was that,
Ozark National?
Mm-hmm.
So that,
yeah,
that's a hell of a video.
I cannot believe some of that stuff
that's going to be on the internet.
Brendan Jones is sending me screenshots of me and Larch Topless,
and it's just something I didn't think would ever,
ever, ever be seen by hundreds of thousands.
of people.
Me just completely pal with the worst fucking farmer's tan of all time.
Lurch is laughing at me.
There's one picture of Lurch caressing me and his whole hands and everything is just so much
bigger than like my shoulder.
Like every,
his whole body is just on my arm.
It's just like I look so,
I look like I need to go to the hospital and hooked up to an IV.
I really do.
So that's that's,
is this tube time?
Is this tube time?
This is,
um,
full everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The photo of what you were describing.
Oh,
I wanted you up on those skis,
I was your number one fan
trying to get your eyes up on the fuck.
Dude,
there's still,
I don't know if I've ever laughed harder
in my entire fucking life
than when me,
Lurch and Trent were on that too.
And we're hitting these fucking,
you're hitting these fucking ways.
Room!
You guys ever hear him I left behind?
And then,
and then we survive it.
We survive.
We survive it.
And you look to the right and Trent's gone.
We had lost him somewhere in that moment.
And every time I looked to the right and I didn't see him there, I legit almost had a heart attack.
I laughed so hard.
Because when you're on the tube, you're buddies, you're loyal.
It's like a band of brothers.
It's an army.
And so you're kind of bouncing around.
You're holding the damn thing.
And you're kind of going, going, going.
And you'd look left and right.
You were laughing.
And then it was that one bump.
And Tea Daddy was gone, gone.
You could be, I don't even know where we lost them.
Then I almost died because my life jacket almost killed me.
it was over my head.
I couldn't.
It wasn't working properly.
And then you guys are trying to pull me.
I mean,
you guys are going to see this in the video where you watch,
but they're trying to pull me back up onto the tube.
And I legit thought,
this is it.
This is where I go.
I die on this lake.
And that was,
that's just going to be the end.
It's the thought of you letting go that really,
really made me laugh.
Like at one point,
you just couldn't take it anymore and you just released.
Also,
he didn't make a noise.
There was no notification that T was gone.
No,
we never knew.
Gone.
Yep.
So yeah, I went to ski house.
I didn't ski because, you know, it's one of those things.
And we went to Pennsylvania, kind of a smaller mountain.
They're making their own snow and shit.
It's not like you're going to Utah where everything's like fluffy.
I mean, the Lerich just went.
Telleride, wherever the hell he was going.
I saw his post knee high snow.
The whole thing was insane.
For me, it's like I saw a bunch of these guys that were going and there's snowboarders.
And he's like, man, I even fell five times and I'm like a fantastic snowboard.
It's fucking ice out there.
It's Martin Luther King weekend.
there's kids all over the place.
He said it was a nightmare.
I enjoyed my beers, the hot tub, the sauna, the, you know, the ambiance of the wood,
all of that stuff to me was very enjoyable.
I did not need to go out there and really hurt myself.
So I don't know.
I definitely felt weird because that's like the purpose of going and then you just don't go.
I think ski trips are more R&R, though.
I don't think you're kind of crazy to not ski, especially if there's not good snow.
Like, dude, I'll go to the spa.
I'll have a beer.
I mean, like, if you want to be outdoorsy, which I know is not your cup of tea, but like you could go snowshoeing, you could go cross-country skiing, you could get a little workout.
But I feel like you were just fart in a hot tub having an IPA, and that's good too.
That's right.
See the videos from your trip lurch.
It made me want to try skiing.
I've never skied.
I think I tried snowboarding one time and it was a disaster.
But skiing, I've heard, is much easier.
It's more manageable.
And I, it looked like a hell of a time, wherever you were.
It was incredible.
And the thing that got me laughing was,
T-Dady sent me a ping was like,
dude,
this trip looks awesome.
Like,
you know,
how's it going?
And we started talking about heart rates
because,
like,
you're up at elevation and it's beaten.
And then I saw the clip,
like,
the next day from the KFC radio show or whatever,
that T-Dady just went to Maui and back
and told no one.
And I was like,
talk about fucking trips.
What are we doing here?
That you're just a solo cat,
not a word was shared and you're in Maui.
I mean,
Maui is not Pennsylvania.
No, and we did.
We talk and we were talking about how far Maui is and I was like, it is super far.
But I didn't want to be like, oh, I'm on this great ski trip and then I was going to be like, by the way, I was in Hawaii.
I liked the information about your trip.
But yeah, I went to Maui by myself and didn't talk to really anybody.
I was actually going to ask you that when we were talking about your trip.
Aside from service people, you know, behind the counter, getting coffee, restaurant, did you talk to anyone in Maui?
aside from people that were directly giving you a product.
No.
That's unbelievable.
In top of one regular person,
not a single person that was around you in the whole island,
you know,
16 hours away,
nothing.
Why would I,
why would I be saying hi to them?
You strike a conversation with someone.
How's the weather today?
What's the ocean look like?
Didn't even happen by accident.
No one asked you for something.
Oops,
sorry.
Because you open the door too quick.
Thank you.
Something.
it.
Do you think or no?
I don't think so.
Not that I remember.
T,
you're a sorry and oops guy.
There had to be one slip up where you were like,
oops, sorry, I'm in the way.
Oops.
Maybe, but nothing that led to, you know,
oh, where are you from?
What are you doing here?
What's the deal?
Nothing like that.
No.
Right.
Okay.
I'm on record and I don't know if I said it on this show.
I think I did.
And I definitely said on KVSI radio where I wish I had a dinner buddy.
I want,
I do, I'm not so off the reservation that
I like, I'm a sociopath, psychopath, whatever you want to call it.
Like, I do still enjoy human interaction.
And I missed it while I was out there.
I would have loved to have had a dinner buddy that I could talk to.
Dinner buddy is like a, and it has like a beginning, middle,
and end and you can get away from it.
Whereas if somebody was with you the whole trip, there's no end until the trip's over.
So that you'd rather just have that scheduled time each night.
Yes, that is what I would prefer.
You'd like a, kind of a service date.
is what you're going for a paved day yeah no no no no I'm just saying yeah I mean no that's right
and then we talked about this on cave three or two you know it's like yeah you're like yeah you
have for that word it's just dudes going out to dinner together it's like we all know where that goes
i I i would wish like I wish my brother was there I wish one of you guys were there like
someone that I know and we can spend a little bit of time together but it's not dominated by that
every day isn't wake up and be like here's what we're doing it's more it's more of like an
abstract friend on a on a trip but someone that I know would be preferable all right well tell your ride
imagine if you're if you're interested in a ski trip I know rigs you just did one frankie you you just
did one tea daddy I don't think you're hitting the slopes but it is though I think I would dude it is so
fun I mean first time I had ski first time in tell your ride have you ever been to tell your ride riggs
because you've done some Colorado stuff no no that's one of the more where is that
have been to. Where is it compared to like Aspen and all that? It's like kind of the southwest corner.
It's like a six hour, seven hour drive from there. It's like kind of, it's truly in a valley.
Like you drive into tell your ride and the end is just a dead end because it's a you of mountains,
right? So you drive into it and like Main Street looks down at these like beautiful mountains.
Sounds awesome. It's exceptional. I will say that's a runway that will make you give you a little
Yeah, your video is insane.
Wow, too, after that, Nepal.
Yeah, we can't really talk about it because we have a flame in 12 hours.
It is, skiing is the best.
I was just breathing heavy.
Resting heart weight rate was like north of a hundred.
I mean, it was a mess.
Just because you're at altitude, it's trying to get oxygen.
Like, I'm not sleeping well because your air is like, where is it kind of thing?
But it is, ski trips are, that's just the best.
Dude, one of our, our production guys had a meeting with some of the people from Taylor made the other day and I was in the office and I kind of was walking by and I popped in and said hi to Essie and all these and all the people on on the Zoom.
And one of the people at Taylor Made, she was in Telleride at the same time that you were and she basically turned her camera on because it was just like her little like avatar for the first time.
And she was at one of those coffee shops and you saw all the mountains around her.
I'm like, is that a fake back?
It legitimately looked like a fake backdrop with how, like you're saying, it's a wall of mountains and then a really cool, like updated town.
It's not like it was like some shit town.
Like all restaurants, bars, it looked like she was in like a pretty updated place.
It's really cool stuff.
It's like updated town.
I like it.
But I'm saying you would, you would picture a fucking mountain town to be like, I don't know, like everything's kind of just like shit and kind of falling apart.
Like a hot tub time machine?
Yeah.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
So the thing that makes tell your ride quite unique is that on the flight in, it's the
It's like I see like a welcome to Telluride magazine.
And so they've limited the number of houses you can build.
They're like there's a gondel and a chairlift that pretty much go right into the town.
So it's every like building a ski on, ski off.
But what they don't tell you and actually we found like a pretty good rental that was not that expensive.
Every property in Telluride starts at $4 million.
So there's where the update like a shed.
Honestly, something the size of like two like I would say a.
a little bit bigger than like a sweet like a nice hotel room that's going to cost you about 2.5
to 3 million so and then like she not that big of a house maybe like a two three bedroom
two bath kitchen nice you're looking at 8 to 12 it's just like it's a it's a it's there's got
I wasn't I was joking my friends it's like there's got to be a bubble and tell your right I don't know
what's going on but there's to be people just everybody
everybody's buying an $8 to $12 million.
Right.
That's not,
that can't be real.
The skiing,
we were talking when we went ours over New Year's like skiing is at the point now.
It's,
it's unreasonable.
I don't know how you would take a family to a ski trip at a place like
Teller Ride or Vail or somewhere like that.
Like it used to be,
I feels like not that long ago that like a lift ticket at a veil or something.
It was like 120 or 150 bucks and like that was still pretty steep,
whatever.
Now the good ones are like.
like 250, 300 plus per person per day.
Plus you have to fly there per day.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
It's like it makes golf look like,
right.
Like you're going to a public park.
It's going to get the ski gear.
You got to like each meal is massively upticked because like Lurcha said,
you can only get in there by fucking barely surviving a flight.
Like it's it's crazy.
So if you have a family of like,
you have like three kids,
you got a normal job in life in the Midwest.
You want to go out to Colorado or something.
you spend like 15 grand
I feel like I don't know how you could do it
right I think Aspen was like talking about
how a family trip out there is like 20 grand
and you're like God
but everything's turning into this
you take your kids to fucking Disney
and you're looking at like 15 to 20 grand
if you're staying in the hotel you got four kids
the fast passes you're eating there every night
it's chaos right now
everything is just absurd
the only place that stays true to its name is
Augusta National
you can get a fucking sandwich for $3 and it's the best
Sam, don't have it all year.
The owners have $2.8 billion per person.
It makes it a little nicer.
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All right, a couple things to discuss.
Obviously, the big cedar, the next episode, which is, if you've been waiting for it,
it's really turned into a Lurch versus Dan, heated, heated golf match.
I sat out that day, did not play.
Obviously, Frankie and Trent were involved, and it was a two-on-two, but it really, you know,
I think the spectators out there, I was one of them, could really sense the Lurch versus Dan thing that was going on,
which was great Ozarks National, which is a stunning.
golf course,
Corcoran Chal,
you had Phil Mickelson actually won his first
champions tour event on that golf course,
and it's beautiful,
the Ozarks,
the whole deal.
So that puppy comes out Thursday night.
Is that right, Bush?
Yeah, Thursday night,
probably six again,
I'd assume.
Okay.
So,
so yeah,
it was a heated one.
It felt like the stakes were high.
Frankie's dream.
Frankie just kept saying,
I think Frankie actually played well that day.
He was like,
no,
no,
no,
kill by fire here somebody just death somebody's got a dying
whispering in each one of your years saying like did you hear what he said
I think that's really getting under his skin like shit like your wife dude
he said something fucked out about your family I was looking at the graphic with
Brendan the other day in the office and it was like yeah it was like three of us
were in the 30s and I was like we played like a really good front nine he's like yeah
dude he's like and you didn't act like you were playing it was insane he's like it was
all about like the bad blood between something like you wanted them to
hit each other, which, yeah, of course, I do.
Of course you do.
You need no brain. So we've got, we got that match, plus the, the extracurriculars on the
water, rented a boat, had a nice time at Big Cedar.
So prepare for that one.
Start with a boy Alistair.
So Alistair Doherty, our first ever sponsored athlete, golfer, got his season kicked off.
I got to say maybe the worst app on planet Earth is this, the PG.
tour app section that has the corn fairy tour the scores aren't even fucking right i just found out like 30
minutes ago that he shot two shots worse than i shot he thought he shot today i'm filing it the whole
fucking day it's horrible you try to star it you try to star your guy and then when you try to find him it like
unstars him so you have to like try to find him again on the app it's been a total disaster you can't watch
it anywhere but regardless i can't tell you how much of a sweat it is having our guy now for the first
time like a real person that's our friend that's you know got the barstool stuff and him and his
caddy sam are fucking great two of my best buddies out here and like i've understood what all goes in
behind the scenes and his mom acts like his manager and like tries to help him book out his years so
he can just focus on golf and then it i was thinking about it today it's like it almost feels like
lord of the rings and we sent like sam and froto off to like go do the thing now and they're just
they're just off on this adventure going through middle earth trying to like do the thing for the
for the rest of the year and they're just like they're just in the Bahamas just like
trying to play the best golf in the world together and it's blowing 100 miles an hour and you're
getting these updates uh I I think he's T-34 at one under par right now uh shot three under
yesterday shot two over today started his whole tournament with an eagle which was crazy
uh but he's just our guys out there just playing on the corn fairy tournament he did he eagle the whole
one two days in a row they had that originally and then they changed it so that's
another thing with their I don't know
who that's unacceptable.
You can't throw the double circles on a on a on a on a score card and then just be like,
oops.
Sorry.
Because I even was like this guy.
They should rename that hole the Alistair.
I mean, that's like the craziest thing ever.
The guy eagles it back to back days.
Come on.
He said day one first round, first hole.
He had driver seven iron into that par five and hit it like seven feet and canned it.
And he was like, yeah, you think there was any pent up, you know, excitement because like he
kind of spoke about it on the show.
I mean, he got through final stage, two months.
months ago, and he's all hyped up.
He's got first eight starts forever.
And then he just has to wait two months.
Like he hasn't been able to play in a competitive golf event, really, in two months.
That's great.
That's like if you're playing in another sport, you had a huge win to like keep your season
alive, and then you didn't get to play another football game for like two months or so
I'd be like, what?
Like, no, you're ready to rock.
So he's ready to go, pumped.
And they're, yeah, they're just out there doing it.
Made the cuts.
Now he gets to play stress free this weekend.
but boy it has been just it's been just a ride it's uh it's fun watching them it's very intense
it's following the app is almost more intense than watching it on tv because you're just
i'm with rigs i was just refreshing it all the time just like what did he shoot what did he shoot
and until we started this podcast i thought he shot even part today it sounds so it sounds like
he shot two over but it's super duper intense and i don't know i was going to ask you guys this
how much am i allowed to be messaging alistair waller
this is going on. Like, what is his demeanor? Because after his first day, I was messaging him.
And I thought, like, maybe I shouldn't be fucking with him while he's in the middle of a tournament.
And I'm not fucking with him. I'm giving, I'm being like, you're awesome. Like, keep it rolling.
But I also, like, I think we've talked to golfers before where they don't talk to anybody until the
tournament is over. And then they talk to their swing coach. And then they talk to whoever. So I don't
want to be getting in his head talking to him throughout this whole tournament. Well, I mean,
live update the guy's on a boat right now are we allowing him to do you can't see it through my camera
are we allowing him to just be out there just like he says afternoon cruise he's just on a boat i mean is that
acceptable for our guy is he allowed to fucking do there should we send him back to the hotel i mean
he's just on a boat is he drinking out there i mean come on dude you guys what i mean how
makes his first cut makes his first cut on the cornberry tour and he's already cruising around the bahami
bahami in water i mean come on man it's a great question Trent because i i feel the same thing and i
I know going into the year he was, he was feeling pretty just stressed about everything.
You got to get all your ducks in order.
You got to have money so you can actually fly from event to event.
And then you have to actually play golf.
And he's like, you know, just so you know with this, I know, I know you guys want me to take
footage so that we could show off the merch, but like I'm not on my phone at all.
So I didn't know.
But then he is him and his caddy Sam, we got a group text.
And he is hitting me up after each round going through a little bit of the round.
And then I've got his caddy.
Sam texts me on the side a little bit.
and he was texting me about today's round.
And I absolutely love this.
He's like, told me today, he's like, dude, Alistair,
I've never seen him have a better attitude in the first round.
He was patient.
It's blowing out there.
It's hard.
And he's like, today I had to have a talking with him with like three holes left.
And I had to be like, he had to literally stop him and be like, hey, everyone's going
to get bad breaks.
You're playing an amazing golf.
It's a long year.
And so that I'm going back and forward with his caddy.
And his caddies being like, he goes, he got a.
a few bad breaks and got rather upset about them today.
So it's like going through that.
And then Alistair kind of said after the round,
he finally texted our group like an hour and a half after.
And he's like, he just goes like, what a roller coaster.
I need some beach time.
So I think he just needed to like decompress and be like, all right, the stress of the first
two rounds are over.
I need to fucking chill out for a little bit.
It's a fine line because I want him to know that we're rooting for him.
We're pulling for him.
We're excited.
where, you know, there's an incredible opportunity.
Those eight starts and we are behind him.
We are incredibly supportive.
But I also don't want to put that pressure on him where he's like fucking rigs and
Trent key message him.
And then I'm just trying to play golf.
Totally.
I feel the same way.
Just checking boxes, making the cut in your first one's huge, right?
I mean, like we're already moving forward.
We're getting points, right?
I really don't know how the whole system works.
But like making cuts, playing good golf, making eagles on your first hole in fucking
corn fairy has to be all positive stuff.
We're feeling good right now going.
into the weekend or definitely we're actually so weird how the fucking third rounds on it i know
well the fucking whole thing is i thought they were doing it this way for tv time and i don't even
think it's on tv when the when the fuck are we going to watch i don't yeah i couldn't find
it i don't think uh but dude like to trend your point like we feel good about it i think these
athletes and i really struggled with this when i started to become friendly with some of the guys
in the islanders i was always so nervous to talk to them about actual hockey and then you realize
like they're in the midst of the greatest time of their lives and they want to talk about it
They want to talk about their games.
Obviously, you don't, like, fucking make fun of them or something.
If there's something bad happens, you know, they're going to be pissed off.
But, like, I love talking.
Like, like, Alastair for sure wants to, like, break down his round.
He's fucking playing professional golf.
That's, like, the coolest thing to him of all time.
So, like, yeah, like, it's probably a little nerve-wracking to, like, are you going to say
the wrong thing?
Is it going to make him more nervous?
He doesn't, dude, that guy is a professional athlete at this level.
He can take it all out of his head.
He has something that we don't.
Like, he's able to just completely wipe it all away.
He's not thinking.
about like well Trent really wants me to do it so I have to fucking now I'm really nervous you know
I mean like that's how I used to think I used to be like dude let's walk and win tonight and be like
fuck now they think I like need them to win it's like no they don't even fucking remember they're just
going to go play their sport and then we're going to have beers after everyone's going to have fun
and he's going to become professional golfer on the pGA torrents and it's and be great
and everything's uh balance you know with yours you as a specific person right like if alister
was just gym driving range gym play his round go home he would probably be miserable
not play as well, right? It's like everything's a little bit of a balance. He is a normal person.
Yes, he does a lot of that. He grinds too, but like he probably needs a few hours to just fucking
chill out. And then he's going to be better off for it. So that stuff, I'm with you. It's like,
I don't know how to be like, I would text me. I get off that boat. Why aren't you in the fucking
gym? You know, it's like what you don't. It's like, I think you just say, I need to clear my headspace
and just walk you. So you're done. So yeah. But I was thinking of that too, like after the round. And
you don't know what kind of headspace there.
Like he might have,
he might have felt like he played a great round the last couple holes and he's all pumped
after and instead he's pissed and it's like the last time he ever wants to hear from
you.
Whereas yesterday's round,
he texts us right afterwards and was like,
what a start for the fellas.
It was a grind out there,
but like let's go.
So it's just fucking up and down,
a mental headcase and whatever.
But our guy,
he's under par.
He made the cut.
And yeah,
it's just going to be all year like this.
It's just a different,
it's a different feeling.
It's like every time he tees it up,
it's nervous.
I really like it.
I really like it.
I mean, like, there's going to be some sleepless nights probably, but I really like it.
I like checking up on him.
I like seeing where he's at.
If he's playing well, fucking awesome, if he's not, whatever.
But when he's playing well, I get fucking real excited.
And what I love, too, is he's the opposite of when me and Lurch bet Everton.
And we thought it would be a really fun year.
And, like, they just lose every game one nothing.
They never score.
Alistair is the complete opposite.
He's a big hitter.
He's got Eagles, doubles, like, following his card is fucking, it's what.
trying to follow his scored card because he just goes for everything.
It hits it, like I said, a mile, makes a ton of birdies and a ton of other shit.
And it's very compelling a lot.
So, yeah, it'll be fun throughout you every year.
I think I've made the worst bets out of anybody on this podcast.
I think I'm probably without question, the worst game.
I would say Everton was the worst bet I've ever made because to bet on like the 93 devils
that just sit back, play defense and counterattack, but don't have the skills that the devil's
So really you're just getting abused and losing every game from one zero to four zero.
That was the worst experience I've ever I've ever done.
So we'll never do that again.
I'm glad this guy is.
Bogies and Eagles are you can live with that.
That's fun.
All right, quick solo interruption before we get into this segment.
In this segment, we talk about the four golfers we're going to put in the four
the cut bet.
We as a group collectively, stupidly, we were supposed to get the names in before.
and we did. I submitted one, Dan submitted one, Frankie submitted one, and Riggs submitted one.
Those are the names that are going to go into it. In this segment that you're about to hear,
Lurch gives a name, but that one is not going to be included because we added it on too late.
So before the cut bet, the four golfers are going to be Sam Burns, Tom Kim, Harris English,
and Taylor Montgomery. Those are the four guys who are going to be in the four of the cut bet.
Also during the segment that you're about to hear, we talk about a Ricky Fowler,
top five bet. That bet is also still going to be available on the Barstall sports book. So go bet that.
Bet the four of the cut. Again, just to be clear, the four names are Sam Burns, Tom Kim, Harris,
English, and Taylor Montgomery. So go bet that on the Barstall sports book. Apologies. We are idiots.
We will continue to be idiots. But this is just to clear up any sort of confusion.
Dude, speaking of gambling, shout out to everybody who tailed me and Riggs on the hole in one bet.
Oh, wow. I think that thing hit. Day one.
day one it hit Thursday and then it hit again it doesn't matter but there were two whole
and ones at this tournament so that's something we bet it out the first week we bet out of spite
because the odds were so bad and it didn't happen and then we bet it again this last tournament
and it hit so i think we might be on to something and to make the cut bet hit so i mean we're
kind of on a roll right now i mean that was a pretty good that was a pretty good tournament for the
four play guys in terms of gambling we delivered a plus four 25 for the folks out there we thought
our way through it. We each had our own play.
We came up with the four-the-cut bet,
and we nailed it. So shout to all those players
that played well on our team that we
picked. That was huge. So now
we're rolling. We're in the positive
a couple weeks in here. The hole-in-one
bet again, if you're not rooting for fun, then
I feel bad for you. I feel sorry for you as a
person. Whole-in-ones, ACEs are great
and fun. They're exciting. People are high-fiving and going
crazy. You should get paid out
double, I think, if there's another hole-in-one.
So I might have to talk to Westie about that.
I mean, they just keep
dunk at them. You know, the odds are like 2,500 to 1. These guys keep making them.
So it's like, that's got to help us, I think. So I might just talked about that.
But so I was looking at the Marshall Sportsbook and we might have a little bit of an issue.
I don't see the whole and one bet this week. Do we have the power to make there be a
whole in one bet this week? We have the power. We're going to make that happen.
Because I really want to keep doing this. People are super into it. I got me and Rick's got maybe
70 tweets over the weekend being like, whole in one, let's go, pay it off.
Let's go.
So if we can keep doing that, because I want to bet it every week.
Every single week, the odds this last week were like minus 114, something like that.
So I mean, I'm whatever it is, the odds, I'm going to take it every single week.
And when you, I got to tell you, when they cut, you got the coverage on and they cut like,
oh, we're going to go back over to 16 and we're going to show this guy's like three over,
getting ready to tee off on a part three.
You're like, oh, okay.
This is going to be pretty close.
And then he makes it.
Everybody goes crazy.
Yeah, we're doing that every week.
I'm in.
We're one in one so far.
And then, yeah, for the cut bet.
So we're going to go through it.
We all took our picks beforehand.
I grinded hard over this.
There is a player in the field this week that we're going to have to talk about.
Ricky Fowler.
So Ricky Fowler has completely changed his golf swing from a visual standpoint.
It looks, I mean, it looks like JT swing.
All of a sudden I looked at it's just a completely different look.
he is he has gone from a a swing instructor that is quite intimately close to this podcast to
someone else in the last several months and so i don't know if anybody here's rooting necessarily
against rickie follower to do well but i saw him pop up on my radar as like he was like a
top 10 or 15 favorite i think to win this week um and i think dan rabbitport wanted to take him for
top five. So I'm going to throw that one out there. Dan was getting a lot of shit for his
Tom Kim bet this week. I think Tom Kim missed the cut in at the Sony. Is that right? What did he take
him as? Did he take him as the favor to win or as to make the cut? It must have been to win.
To win. That's right. Yeah. Okay. He was like there's no way he doesn't win. He doesn't
have any fatigue and all that. Now, I will say it's like a 13 to 1. Obviously, if a 13 to 1 doesn't
hit, you don't deserve to be ridiculed for that. But anyways, he wanted Ricky Fowler top five.
going to pick our guys for the for the cut bet i've got sam burns last time i really recall
watching a lot of sam burns action in golf was at the president's cup i know he didn't have the
record that he necessarily wanted but he was playing fantastic throughout and i saw his name jump
up to my list for the mx so i'm going to go my pick sam burns is going to be part of the make the
cut crew well before i give my pick i i want to say that feels like you're trying to to bait me
into saying something about rickie fowler and his swing and what's going on i i want to be
removed from that narrative. I will not be commenting
whether or not I'm rooting for
or against him. He's just, he's
another golfer out on tour.
For make the cut,
I am, I'm going with Tom Kim. I made that
pick. I think he's going to make the cut.
I mean, people can yell me if they want.
But first of all,
you got to bet the whole and one because that's where
my real, that's where the real money is
for me personally. I'm putting a lot
on a whole and one. And I think Tom Kim
is going to make the, he's going to make the cut.
He's just, he's a young, hungry,
superstar in the making and he's not going to play bad every week.
There's no way.
I've got Harris English.
I have no reason to pick him other than the fact that I really like his name because it's a
thinker for me.
I like saying his name because I always put an H at the end of his first name.
Harris English.
It's just a thing that I do.
I struggle with it.
And I always have to think very, very confidently like, all right, right.
Right now let's say this with some confidence.
Harris English.
So when I say that, it feels like the guy's going to play some good golf.
I think he is definitely going to make the cut.
So that is my submission and Lurch.
We have Lurch now.
So there's a lot of pressure here because Danny last time submitted his guy to make the cut.
Right.
And then he did.
That's why we won.
Now you are,
you're our fourth.
So this isn't just the Lurchy's loose in the distance to try to snout.
This is a part of the cut.
You could ruin it for everyone.
Or I can be a multiple and make people more money because I'm taking.
an outside guy looking at.
True.
I love it.
You do what you got to do,
but I'm just letting you know
that we're one and no since we started this thing
and let's go for two and oh.
Mm-hmm.
That is the goal.
The goal is to try to find the highest,
the least likely person to make the cut
that's going to make the cut.
It's a scroll.
You want to scroll.
You know what I mean?
Chappie is at the bottom of this field
and he's a friend of the podcast,
but he's, you know, he's on the outside looking at.
He'd be a moneymaker.
Hold on.
Now hold on a second.
Was that a 10 second?
can scroll. How long was that scroll? How many flicks?
You know, I got a quick finger.
Okay. Let's be reasonable. Instincts. Hey, we do this on the dozen, by the way.
Congratulations. So, us with the dozen. We'll get into that after this. But, um, you want to go with instincts. If your instinct is, is chappy, I think you throw them in. I mean, imagine that hits. That's got to be insane. We're looking at a plus maybe a thousand.
We'll go chappy. Come on.
We'll go chaffee. Wow. Okay. What's the last time you've been in a cut?
that's amazing i would also like to say and and maybe i just didn't look hard enough back to the
whole and one thing quickly i cannot find hole in one stats i mean i looked for three minutes so
that could be the problem but also like i wanted something to pop up right away where it was like
this is how many there were this is the tournaments where they happened this is how frequent they
are like i would love to know out of all of the the events last year how many of them had whole
in one. Dude, stat people are insane. The guys that are staticians that actually have that information
are extremely valuable. The Islanders have a guy, Eric Hornick, I think is his name on Twitter. He legitimately
has a job because he has all of the data that you just can't find online. Like, you'd have to spend
years trying to find how many times Brock Nelson has taken a shot on low blocker side against the
National Predators. He has it. He just, I don't know what it is. I don't know what his database looks like,
but he just has the information.
So maybe each night he divvies it up into an Excel sheet and like everything that happened,
it all goes into like the forever stat.
I don't get it.
But there's a guy for the PGA tour that for sure knows every single swing that's ever
happened on PGA tour since that stats been collected and he knows how many whole ones there's been,
but we're not those guys.
And honestly, the internet is not, is not there yet.
That's why they're still valuable, those statisticians.
If you guys had to guess what overall throughout the,
of the PJ tour season, how many of those events percentage have a whole in one take place?
And it's just one or zero kind of thing.
So if there's like six in an event, it just counts as one, just counts as covers that tournament.
Yeah, for this, like when does it happen?
Okay.
I mean, how many events are there?
I'm going to guess.
30 something.
37% of PJ tour events have a whole and one.
Really?
Wow.
I thought it would be higher.
Oh, I think it would be lower.
We just had two in the last one.
Yeah, you had none the week before.
It's your 50.
It's a really good point.
I think it's right about a third.
I think it's about a third.
Yeah.
You think that's my guess.
I have no idea.
That sounds low.
I would have said 25.
Because honestly,
so there's four tournaments a month.
And it feels like there's,
it's closer to 50% honestly.
Same.
But yeah.
You know,
like it's a big deal when it happens every time.
I know,
but.
I'm moving mine up.
I'm going to go right in the middle, 50%.
I'm with Lurch.
Really?
I'm sticking strong.
I'm going instinct.
I'm going Trent,
the dozen instinct,
37%.
If someone can get those numbers for me,
please send them because I would love to look at them.
So who's our official for the cut now?
We've got to text that to Jake Bass.
Chappie.
I was between him and Doug Gim,
but I'm going to go on Chappie.
I love Doug Gim.
Tom Kim,
Harris English.
Sam Burns.
Sam Burns.
Now, here's a question.
Dan submitted one, but do we take it?
There's five, two, is we five crazy and we're just committing suicide?
Oh, he, oh, he did submit one.
Uh-huh.
Well, this is, this is Lurchis called.
Does he want, do you want to be there, do you want it to stay as a four or do you want to make it a five?
I mean, if you guys are one and one, I don't want to ruin the vibe.
Is there, you can't, you can't obviously be two because you want to keep on a solo
increases the odds if we're adding a fifth.
Right.
So I think you go with your four because Chappi is a dark.
Are you insane?
If you don't think we're going with Chavill because you know he's going to make the cut now,
if we miss that,
if we don't include him in,
that's disastrous.
People can add him and make a custom parlorer,
but they won't get the boost.
You know what I mean?
So go out there at him for a nice booster play.
But I would say you want to put like one unit on the core four.
Then maybe you just want to do it.
No, we're keeping at the four for now.
It's nothing against Dan's submission, but on Thursday's show, maybe we can talk about why we didn't include his or whatever.
We'll have a discussion about going forward who's going to have the picks.
I think four is the way.
It's for the cut, four picks.
You got to make it.
All right.
So Kevin Chappell, Tom Kim, Harris, English, Sam Burns.
And please remember, you must be 21 or over to gamble.
That's something that's very important.
And if you do gamble, do it responsibly, right?
Lurch, everyone's got to do it responsibly.
You have to set limits, stick to your budget.
And if you have a problem, you call 1,800 gambler.
Simple as that.
A big week for us this week.
We're going to be going, the three of us, along with Dan,
we'll be going to the Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions on the LPGA tour.
We're playing in the event.
So we're doing a relay, basically, is the best way I think I can describe it.
We are one person.
We are collectively one person, exactly.
And one of us plays Thursday, another person plays Friday, another Saturday, another Sunday.
and we're going to see how we finish in this event.
We're going to record a bunch of interviews on Wednesday.
We're going to be around the kickoff event for the LPGA tour this year down in Orlando for the week.
So we're traveling tomorrow.
We're going to be kicking around in Orlando at Lake Nona.
We're going to be hanging out.
Like I said, we're going to be interviewing folks adding to the podcast, banked some interviews.
So if you're in the area, you want to come to the event, check it out.
And then we're going to be on television, the events on television on Thursday, Friday,
Saturday, Friday, I believe, and Saturday from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on golf channel.
So hopefully we do something special. Imagine somebody gets a hole in one or holes out.
They're going to show us. And we're just playing in a, we're just playing in this pro app.
I think Brendan may have mentioned that Sunday might be on NBC or some version of NBC, whether it's on Peacock or something, which is insane.
Sunday. It looks like from 2 to 5 p.m. it's on NBC. Which is nuts. So here's the, here's the,
the here's the rotation by the way i think it goes rigs on thursday danny on friday trent ryan
in the cleanup poll on on on uh on saturday and then i'm coming in on sunday i have to pick up
whatever trent did and that's gonna be all right i didn't know what dad was playing isn't clean up
four cleanup yeah i don't know why i said that i was like baseball guy kind of well i wanted trent to be
the cleanup guy but i knew i knew that it wasn't didn't work halfway through and i kind of look for
your reactions to, like, correct me and no one did.
And I was like, I'm just going to let that fly.
But Trent is way more of a cleanup guy than I am.
I'm like a number one or number nine guy.
I used to get bad at number ninth.
And they're like, oh, it's like a second leadoff position.
It's a second lead off spot.
They used to tell me.
I'm like that's a good player kind of stuff.
That's a guy that's just, you know, he's going to see a lot of balls.
I'm going to foul off a lot and I'm just going to make the pitcher work.
But I'm not a second leadoff player.
That's not happening.
So yeah, I am going Saturday.
You're going Saturday.
That's right.
Okay.
Yeah.
And what's our, what's the caddy situation?
Because I know they gave us the option where we could catty for each other or we could have a real
cat.
We're getting real caddies.
We're trying to win the thing.
You know what I mean?
Totally.
We discussed us cadding for each other.
It's like, I need someone to tell me where to put the ball.
I'm not, it's also going to be a nightmare.
There's like fans out there.
I want to be very clear that I'm very nervous.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Like really nervous.
How many people have we interviewed that have played in like celebrity appearance go out of it?
We've been like, how do you feel when all the fans are like?
up on the ropes and you just send like a hazel missile into the fans and they're like I feel
terrible I feel horrible about that so if there's any fans lining this place whatsoever uh we're
going to be a problem in Orlando I love the idea when we pitched it and heard it and agreed to it
as we as it has approached I've gotten much more nervous I think if you're a fan going to a pro
am you've got almost a little bit of a death wish you know what I mean yep yeah yeah remember the one
we saw Liberty National crazy that was it's it's it's it's it's
It's mixed into the event.
So even if someone was like, oh, I want to go to this LPJ event,
but there's also going to be these maniacs hitting golf balls as well.
So it's almost like a, you're tricking them.
It's a four-day pro-am.
If you're standing on the front lines, you're like Civil War type stuff.
You know what I mean, where they just line up and just half the people go down
and the next group of people stand up.
I mean, front lines are pro-am.
Also, you can see the guy's posture.
It just, you know, if you're,
you're closer to a hazel than not.
The fact that we're playing golf on TV is outrageous.
Like real, real round of golf, you know, who knows how many shots they put on there,
but I'm assuming I think Riggs is playing with like a superstar athlete on Thursday.
Yeah, I am.
So it's like they're going to put him on TV for sure.
I mean, I'm pretty sure you're playing with Larry Fitzgerald.
I don't know if that's like official, but like they're obviously going to show Larry
and like you're going to be there maybe chipping like who knows how your game is right now.
I know you had a grip change.
We can talk about that, but holy fuck, is the nerve going to start coming down?
If I see that red light on top of a TV camera pointing at me, who knows what the result's going to be.
Is that what we're looking for, the red light?
Is that how we're going to know?
I think that's how they know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got to say, I feel pretty good, but still nervous because we're still not that good, but like, about as good as I could be all things considered right now because I did just strengthen the shit out of my left hand.
And it changed everything.
and all of a sudden I'm hitting the ball really nice.
So I'm excited for that part of it.
I'm pretty positive.
I am playing with Larry Fitzgerald, who's fantastic.
He's a friend of the program.
He's a friend of a lot of our friends out here in Arizona.
He's a great dude.
I played with him at the 3M, and we did the little,
there was like the celebrity thing at the end with Thielen,
a bunch of other people, and somehow I was in there.
And he's awesome.
So I'm excited to play with Larry.
He, you know, he likes to compete.
So I imagine he and I are going to have a little action going,
which hopefully that gets me kind of locked in.
I'm a little nervous as the leadoff guy.
Like I don't, you know, if I, like, you can't, right, you can't win it on Thursday,
but like this crew could lose it.
Like this crew could lose the whole tournament on Thursday.
No, no doubt about it.
We could be the most out of the team in the whole thing.
Trent, you might get, you might get, you might get the reins, you know, you might get this,
what do they, what do they pass?
The baton.
The baton.
The baton.
You might get this baton.
on Saturday with like a pretty deep like we might be up there like maybe top 10 like who who knows
what rigs and day might go low danny might go out there and shoot a 68 you know he's got to get the
competitive juice is going he's he's a competitive golfer he's really good under pressure all that
stuff he loves tournament atmosphere this guy rigs might choose 77 78 who knows if riggs has his
great and then danny shoots a fucking 70 and then all of a sudden everyone's like holy shit trend
Trent's a top 10 golfer right now on golf channel.
Look at this guy first, T.
What are you going to do?
Baby cut right down the middle.
Of course you are.
And then we're just off and running.
Who knows?
You should a 99.
T, I got a question for you.
Because Riggs, I would say, has the biggest delta of any good golfer that I know.
Like, when his game's on point, it's like, wow, he's just hitting it down the middle and he can chip and put.
But occasionally he gets those wayward rights with the driver.
And then what are we doing?
Are you rooting for?
are you rooting for good golf out of rigs or are you rooting to take the pressure off golf so you know
Saturday you're just kind of taking a nice straw.
Well, now you're asking me to answer a question that I'm not sure I'm comfortable answering.
No, I think you want.
I think you absolutely want to be the guy that didn't play the worst.
So by that nature, you would want one of the first two people that play to play terrible.
Alligators chasing the four of us.
I just don't want to be the last like the slowest guy.
That's all you're trying to know.
That's right. That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's how I feel.
You have to.
Like, I feel amazing knowing I'm going after Trent.
But then that could, my day could get ruined if Trent goes out there and plays the round of his life.
Imagine Trent goes out there and breaks 90 on golf channel.
The place is going crazy.
And then I have to like, they're like, all right, Frank, if you just shoot an 82, we're
top five in this professional golf tournament.
And it's going to be a huge success.
You're not going to win the thing, but you're going to,
fucking be really and then I go out there and shoot 105 which I'm extremely capable of doing.
I'll, I'll never want to be seen again.
I'll just go to whatever meekinos and you'll never see me ever, ever again.
I'm going to fucking vanish.
I'm going to try not to think about any of it because I'm going to be nervous.
So, you know, there's going to be some hilarious swings out there, man.
Also, and you're going to be, we're going to be playing with, you know, pros.
So that's another level pressure.
It's almost less about, I mean, the crowds are terrifying and they should also be terrified.
But it's, you're playing with a pro.
They're trying to win a tournament and there's going to be fucking me like, wow, I can't even like it's just duffin irons and wedges.
Like that's insane.
That's not having swung in a while either.
Like this is.
Yeah, this is coming fast, man.
Are you going to try to you going to grind on the range like during the, during the trip?
I mean, I got to get some swings in for sure before I go out there on.
Saturday. Yeah, I'm going to be out there probably every day. I personally see a Disney trip in our
future this week. That's something that I know I'm going to probably try and put into the itinerary.
So I don't know if that's going to take away from Trent's range time, but I definitely see me
experiencing some Disney fun, whether it's the Animal Kingdom so I can go see the Avatar land or
something that I haven't seen before. I want to experience that. So Trent, you can make the decisions
on how serious you want to take your game. But I know you'll find me at Disney one of those.
days where I should have been hitting balls and practicing putting.
I know that.
That's who I am.
And I'm never going to go away from who I am.
I can't.
Like you said about Alistair.
If Alistair was this guy that hit the gym and it was hitting balls and went to
the gym, no, he has to go on the beach.
I got to go to Disney.
I got to go to the gym.
Lurch, where are we at with like health?
You know, we're on the, we're on the, we're becoming more cognizant of it.
You know, I'm not going to say we've done any substantial changes, but we're certainly
aware that the health is not.
not a good thing. Actually, I haven't been to my doctor yet, so there's been no change there.
Dude, but I didn't, I went to the dentist, which was a nice start.
That's nice. And they told me I've got a bunch of good teeth and two that needs more.
So, you know, at least we're checked in there. But yeah, nothing on the primary care yet.
So we're, that's a, that's a Q1 goal this year. You know, we're going to try to get over there and say, hey, buddy, this is my body.
and see if they give me any real update or glimmer of hope.
Just a cleanse.
Yeah, we're trying to actually over the Axon world.
We're going to kick off a little like team workout thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Every team's got like this little, you know, whatever,
a team of people compete again, you know, whatever for a workout.
And so I'm hoping that pushes me into some sort of work.
workout routine where I'm doing it, call it three times a week, but I'd love to get to four or five,
but that's a, that's probably not going to happen.
So body sticks.
I mean, bodies, body's the same way as you remember it, you know, a year ago, whatever.
How's yours, Dave?
Dude, I went, I went to the doctor like a week ago.
Nice.
And we as a society, one thing we got to get rid of is the old school scales that they have in
the doctor's office.
It's, it's not the digital ones.
It's where you stand there.
go kachunk kachunk and i'm a guy i'm a guy who wears it pretty well like i look like on
two 35 i'm not and so the nurse is looking at me and i hop on there and she's got a general
idea of what she thinks i weigh and i'm not that so she just keeps moving that weight that big
one to the right side big what and i just wanted to be like we it's more than you think like let's
just let's get down to the right side here because i just way too much and we kept moving that
think to the right. And I would have preferred to have a digital scale that was just like,
here's what you are, as opposed to going through the grueling process of trying to get it to balance
out because it took much longer than I would have preferred.
Dude, like the last time I went to the doctor, they did that to me.
Because I'm another where, well, I think kind of guy, but I will say when you see me in
pictures, I'm like, oh, no, that's fucking, that guy is really big.
And I forget, I think I told on this podcast years ago.
But I mean, I literally was like, she stripped me down.
I took my weight and you're right, that kachunk,
ka chunk, because when you hit that
250 kachunk, it's like
now people are looking.
They're like, now she's like,
that's a big boy is the scale okay.
Yeah, he's dense.
He's real dense.
And I'll never forget this like,
it was just,
it was right after college.
I was living in Boston and I'm sitting there and your feel
you're so humbled, right?
You're sitting there.
I'm pretty much naked.
I got like my bag of goods sitting in my lap.
And this UPenn doctor comes in.
She's like, now, sorry to say, you are in fact overweight and actually you are obese.
And due to the BMI statistics or whatever and just, and I'm literally almost in the nude.
I've got like a little like kitchen wrap.
You're obese.
Dude.
Yeah. She's like, you are, you are in fact overweight and you are obese.
And like, and that was it.
And I was just like, okay.
And that's probably why I took attendance.
I would have said to her.
Dude, so I, so after I get waited by that fucking mouth, get out of here.
After I got waited by the nurse, the doctor comes in and I'm already like, I'm firing stuff at him.
I'm like, I know I'm fat.
Like I just, I know.
Like, I know you saw the weight that I got.
And he goes, let me stop you right there.
You're not fat.
You're obese.
Oh, I will say that BMI statistic, though, that's from like the 1800s.
We got to change that thing.
I also want to say that my doctor and I have like a good rapport.
He's a funny guy and like we fuck with each other.
So it was, he said it in a joke.
way, but he stopped me dead in my tracks and was like, you're not fat, you're obese.
And it is BMI.
Like my BMI is, it's a 60 out of, it needs to be like a 21.
Yeah.
I guess.
Yeah.
He should be.
He should be.
He should be direct with you, right?
There's no, like, he should be.
If there's one time in place, I need to be honest with this guy right now.
I just, I need to tell him what, what it is.
He can't be.
It was funny.
When he said it, we both laughed because he was like, dude, if you think you're fat,
you're missing the point.
You're missing the whole thing completely.
What did he say you need to do?
You give you like a roadmap?
It's what everybody says.
It's eat better and work out.
Yeah.
Like you can,
everybody can tell you what to do in a different way.
But at the end of the day,
it's always just eat better and work out.
So no cooler ranch Doritos or no,
those are no good and stickers bars.
No.
Okay.
I eat much sugar.
Like,
but it's,
yeah.
It's always the same thing at the end of the day.
You just,
you got to eat less and work.
out and I you know I don't adhere to that at any point yeah I took anybody feeling good though it's
January I mean nope maybe rings because you're in Arizona it's like but if you're in the northeast
and it's January the whole the whole section of the country looks like hell I would say yeah
January is it's gray I would say that I took a stand and it definitely subliminally without
me understanding that I was doing it it was the new year like you almost you sign up for the gym
you don't realize that you're doing it and it's like it's such a fucking pathetic move to
show up and start working out just because the calendar change. But, you know, right around Christmas,
right around New Year's, I started doing a little bit more, finally hop back on the bike, totally,
totally just took a stand on my diet. And I was like, I'm trying to get rid of the fat face. I want
the jaw line to come back. We have a big year this year. I was getting bigger and bigger and bigger,
and I just didn't want to keep doing that. Started playing a lot of pickle ball. That's making me sweat,
working out like three or four times a week, got the Peloton. You move the screen. You're doing the
workout regimens. I've got the resistance bands. So I'm actually in a routine right now where like
when I work out, I actually feel really good. It actually makes my like mood better. I feel like
I have better posture. One of the things that like I was talking to people about was like, you know,
when you're not working out, you're laying in bed all day, your posture sucks. Your belly sticks out.
You have man tits. Like that's like where it all comes from. You have to like now I'm like I feel like I'm
walking like more of a man than a child. I feel like this past couple weeks. And it actually feels good.
I definitely had a set back at the ski house.
There's no doubt about it.
Just way too much food.
The first day I tried to fucking like ignore the pizza rolls and the fucking hell of a good French onion dip.
And my dad made breakfast pizza for us with just cheese and stuff.
I couldn't.
I was like, no, I'm fine.
I'll just get like a salad later.
And everyone's like, what?
So then I just,
I fucking just stuck my face in it all.
And it was a nightmare.
I ate a whole thing of Tastito sco sco.
and salsa, the whole thing.
The whole bag and the whole entire container salsa was all me.
So that was a setback.
When I was going on dates with girls or whatever, because I would just, I hammer food.
I cook a whole meal for dinner prior to the date or whatever.
We go out for drinks and then we'd have dinner after and then I could have a casual meal
with them.
So like, I would just like the double meals are a nightmare if you're getting into that game.
So anybody out there try to eat for a family or just a person of one.
Well, actually calorie deficiency for you.
being able to like limit your calorie intake from what it usually is.
It's probably super easy because you just have to stop making two dinners.
Yeah, you say that, but it's like super hard because like, for sure.
I'm saying when you're eating outrageous amounts of food, it might be a slightly easier
to limit that to just a ton of food.
No, because you're used to eating that much.
It's all relative.
Right.
Like, dude, I have one bagel and my body's like, we are getting hungry.
And then I have four and you're like, now we're kind of full.
And then I go start my day.
I have figured out my body to the point.
where I'll, like, I want to kick sugar.
I eat so much sugar.
Like, people actually wouldn't believe it.
And it, like, I think people would like have a sugar.
They would be like, bro, that's, dude, someone wrote on Twitter yesterday.
I'm a volume guy.
What's something that's legal that you would make illegal?
And I was going to say like salt and sugar should be illegal.
But I know you need it.
You need a lot of salt.
I see all these athletes drinking these like salt waters now.
There's like a whole new kick that salt is actually extremely good for you to replenish all of
stuff. I don't know.
The fucking stuff changes every single.
Right.
And sometimes Frank,
he'll say to me like,
oh,
I was talking to this guy,
he's a,
he's a hockey player and he like does this.
Like we,
those guys are aliens.
We can't,
what they do is not what we should be doing.
Like I saw Anders Lee walking with this thing called like,
it was called like Excel or something.
It was a box and it was a picture of him walking into the locker room with
this fucking box.
And I,
I typed it in.
And I never heard of the brand before.
And it was salt water.
And you would click on this link and it's just all these fucking.
like all these quotes about like how salt is like the thing that you need now like that but also now
I'm thinking like as I'm reading that yeah of course the guy drains so much fucking sweat and
calories and fat every single day he's a machine if I'm sitting there drinking salt water watching
fucking Netflix Wednesday Adams on fucking Netflix and my neck is going to look like a fucking
balloon well I remember when I played high school football I
would hammer three mountain dues a day and it wouldn't matter because you nothing the practices were
so intense and you sweat so much that it wouldn't matter but me now with sugar i'll go one day fine
two days fine end of the third day i'm ready to commit crimes for sugar and i just go to the convenience
store and i i stock up and it's a problem it's a problem what is it two weeks you got to go two weeks
to like really generate a habit is that what it is there's a we there's bodies in my basement if i go
two weeks without sugar.
I need to go to a doctor.
I think it's just like a general doctor.
No.
I just don't,
I don't go to a doctor.
I don't have a doctor.
I don't.
You should get a primary care out there,
I would imagine.
Right.
Right.
Why don't I just have that?
I don't,
I don't do that.
When I get my blood work done,
like as big of a piece of shit that I am,
I get blood work done and my blood work's totally fine.
They're like,
because I think that I'm my,
you know,
whatever the sign for diabetes is,
I'm like,
well, that's going to be,
that's going to break the scale.
And they're like, your blood is totally, totally fine.
So it's just about feeling better and looking better.
Get healthy, boys.
You know what I mean?
23.
Lurch, pickleball is a hell of a sport.
It's a good game.
Pickleball, too.
Good game, dude.
I saw that you got some paddles.
Yep.
That Viking company, they're a big paddle, like, platform tennis company.
Yes.
I use a lot of their stuff.
But, yeah, dude, it's a great game.
So here's the thing I could play?
Could I play?
For sure.
Anybody can play pickle.
It's like a ball kind of comes to you a little bit.
Now, to play competitive and stuff is hard, but it's basically like you hit a wiffle ball.
So it doesn't, you know, it's like Batman kind of where you like in gym class,
you'd smack it and then it just kind of slows down.
It's pretty similar for like pickup ball as well.
But it's a great game.
Yeah, I've said that's the satisfying part about it.
You're able to crush it.
You get like a satisfying feeling on the paddle and the ball doesn't go that far where it like
ruins the game.
Like I feel like if you try and hit those kill shots in any other paddle game, whether it be tennis or ping pong, whatever, like the point's over because like you've made that move.
You've, you've generated all of that energy to smack it as hard as you can and either you succeeded or you hit it into the net and you failed.
And in pickleball, I feel like there's a lot of that satisfying feeling of like, oh, I'm giving it to them and they're still volleying it back.
So it's a I find that to be the most fun part of the game aside from like the dinking and the strategy.
and moving people and setting them up to fucking pop it up to you i love that i love the shy down
that i've seen when you go on like when sports center or one of these like instagrams posts a pickleball
like really good rally it gets so much shit like so many people are like pathetic sport might as well
put fucking ping pong in the olympics all this shit i i none of those people have played like
i understand that there's a stigma about that 95 year old susy luke can play it but 95 year old suzy lukem
fucking really do anything at whatever 95 year old Susie Lou at her level you know what I mean like
obviously older people can play anything it's just it's going to be a completely different level
of skill and and strength and speed like when I play with my buddies it's a fucking workout it's
it's extremely like intense and I think there's a lot of hand eye coordination people shit on this
sport I'm like what the fuck dude it's a great game like I my brother and I I think you know on here
I tall like we joined this uh well it was basically a pro it was like the Vero B
each pro pickle tournament or whatever.
We joined like the division that was pro level or whatever.
And I had only played once before that.
And like we're, you know, you kind of like dink it cross-cord and there's a lot of rallies
and then sometimes you explode one at the net got.
And I had no idea, but that move, Frankie that you're probably familiar with and maybe, you know,
rigs and T you are as well.
But like you can, foot position is everything.
So there's like the kitchen and where you're located.
But you can actually like jump outside the court.
and then smack a forehand.
It's insane.
And then you can get up on the net.
So the kitchen blocks you out, whatever that like two and a half, three foot zone is.
But so some guy did that to me to start like one of the matches.
And I was like, whoa, I've only played in the backyard here.
Like, I don't know what we're doing.
But it is a good game.
There's a good strategy.
It's good fun.
I mean, maybe Olympic sports a little nuts for it.
But maybe, I don't know.
There's like college level now.
It's just another game, you know, the people invented with a ball.
It feels like it's exploded.
You know, outside of the Instagram comments, it feels like everybody else is like, let's play.
Like social media won't accept it yet.
Everybody plays it.
Social media won't accept yet, but every person that has tried to play it during this wave has fucking fallen in love with it.
I've seen it in my own group of friends.
One guy, Big Rob was playing.
He's losing fucking tournaments to.
Is he smiling?
He was not smiling because he was puking.
He was so out of shape, but he made it to the championship that he was puking in between every single match.
They actually had to disqualify him.
It was a health DQ.
He disqualified him from the finals because he was puking on the court and they're like,
we can't have you die out here.
And he's like,
let me have it.
He lost to a fucking 12 year old.
It's the funniest picture of all time.
Was it a singles match?
It was singles,
yeah.
In the dead heat at like city field in the parking lot.
Like fucking right on the blacktop.
Yeah.
So,
but he started.
He plays with his dad.
His dad's fucking one of those like 50 and older like,
complete, like elite pickleball player shows up and everyone knows his name. It's awesome. But he started
and now I started playing. Kyle starts playing. Sean starts playing. Everyone's buying paddles.
Like you could tell it's not just everyone becomes obsessed with it. So that's how I know it's like a
true rise of a sport. Same thing happened with golf. You brought one guy out golf and in your crew.
All of a sudden he's like, bro, I need to get clubs. Like I need to start one of the range.
Same thing with pickleball. I know it's a fucking stupid sport. I know that there's not much movement to it.
should just play tennis if you're more athletic.
I've seen all the fucking comments.
It's fucking fun when you play, man.
It's awesome.
Yeah, I totally agree.
I mean, like...
Tennis is so hard.
It's just different.
You know, I think they're just different games.
So, you know, there's good games.
There's the Padel that like the Spaniards play or, you know, that that's a great game.
Have you seen any of that on Instagram?
I think platform tennis is awesome too, which I got to get into it.
Yeah.
Because that's the one in tennis, country clubs.
Yeah.
Tennis, too, is a problem because the...
You can't really...
really play with people that are better than you.
Like even if they're a little better than you, they just kill you and you can't play.
Whereas like golf, there's a handicap system, pick a ball.
Like you were saying, Lurch, feels like it kind of like it bunches everybody up a little bit more.
Same with paddle tennis.
Paddle tennis, Frankie is like it bunches everybody up because you learn to just, you can play it off the wall.
And it's harder to hit winners so everybody could kind of play together.
Tennis, it's like, if one person is a half of a percent better than the other person, it's not even a match.
Yeah.
It's also, it's harder to play.
like because you're close proximity in paddle and pickle.
So like we can play together and still have a lot of fun because like you don't like hammer it at the, you know, whatever.
You're like playing more.
But tennis, it's like hard to play like in a kind way to somebody else on the other side of the court because you are right.
Like if someone's a little bit better and that's why golf is exploded because it's so good.
You don't play the other person.
You play the golf course, the handicapped system.
You know, that's why it's truly like amazing to play with your.
friends where it doesn't matter at all because it is you know yeah tennis separates quickly
pickleball is it's great i've only heard pushback that i've seen it's like i think legitimate
is that since it's all now in these like public parks and a lot of areas it's a loud game
and i've heard like there's like a lot of lawsuits and like people pushing back on that side it's a
loud game yeah because it's basically that wiffle ball hits the racket court racket court racket court
and it's a lot and it's like
sometimes at net
and so people that were like
I used to live next to this peaceful court
where like sometimes people play basketball or whatever
they're like this is shit
can we put some hours of regulation on this
because it is loud.
I didn't think of that.
I sometimes understand that argument
because it's not like golf course
where it's like you move next to it like it's shut up
like it's just it was already there
this new like amusement park
has just moved next to you
and I do get that it's like
like, all right, let's play between, you know, 9 and 5 p.m.
So it's kind of during the hours of the day.
But every single court.
It's quite loud.
Every single court in America right now is filled.
So from 9 a.m. till sun set.
Oh, yeah.
From sunrise to the sunset, it is filled and there is fucking noise to be had.
I didn't even think of that.
When you go to these indoor facilities, I guess I never really picked up on it,
but it's fucking loud in there.
It's echoing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It might be on the anti pickleball.
I might become one of those.
people on social media.
You move next to a tennis court.
That's an oasis.
You move next to a tennis court, you're like, oh, that noise is synonymous with wealth and
like leisure.
Like you hear that behind your trees in your backyard.
You're like, is that a tennis court back there?
You're like, yeah, they play over there.
There's a high school.
So now pickle balls like, what the fuck is that going on?
It's also, tennis, tennis you max out for like two hours if you're growing up because it is a,
like, pickle, you can play.
all day.
You can play 32 matches.
It doesn't matter.
That's the next, that's the invention.
You've got to find like a paddle or a ball that deadens the sound.
There you go.
Is that possible?
Let's do that.
I'm sure, but nobody in this group is going to do it.
I started,
I started watching Point Break on Netflix, Lurch.
Oh, nice.
I was just, I was going to glue into that the other night,
but then I turned on the Alpinest again and just watch that.
And so it got sad, but, uh, because it was,
One of those nights when I go to bed, I want to watch something I know.
It's like weird that is.
Yeah.
But I've already seen that.
Yeah, you don't want to have to lock your brain in on anything.
You just kind of mindlessly fall asleep.
Point breaks the surfing movie, right?
Point breaks the new tennis.
And I believe it's a break point.
Yeah, yeah, which is different.
But I do what you meant.
Yeah, but point break is the surfing movie.
Okay.
True.
You got a point break.
Good one.
That's a good movie.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, it's a shit.
I think it's Dave Portnoy's like favorite movie.
It's a great movie.
Yeah, he loves point break.
And I think there was a point break themed bar in New York City that I remember I walked by with him.
And he was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
And then I think it went out of business.
I think they remade that movie recently.
Yes, they did.
I don't think he liked it as much as he liked the original.
I don't think so.
No, the original is way better with Johnny Utah.
Yeah, Johnny Utah.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, that's when Swayze is at the top of his game.
I mean, Sways was everything from sex to drugs, to athletic, to,
golden brown skin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my mom loves Patrick Swayzee.
You have to.
I do.
Don't put baby in a corner.
You know what I mean?
Like the guy was just...
Was he ghost?
He was ghost, right?
He was a ghost.
Yeah, my mom was real into ghost.
And dirty dancing was at him as well?
Dirty dancing, was that him in the corner.
That's one of the old-time friends.
Yeah.
Yeah, my mom would...
She talked about him a lot.
Like, it was almost a little bit too much.
Me and Balls had an all-time practice Swayzee
highlights without rights.
where I was Swayze and he was Chris Farley.
That's right.
Chippendales.
That was a great one.
Chippin' nails like six years ago.
It's come in a long time.
He did in 2009.
No.
Long time ago.
Yeah.
Swayze.
That was a long time ago.
I thought it was way more recent than that.
No.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Holy s crazy.
All right.
Anybody got anything else?
When are you guys flying in tomorrow?
Tomorrow.
Yep.
I got to go.
meet my dad. It's my dad's birthday today.
So you want to wish him a happy birthday.
He went bowling today.
And now they're going to a Mexican restaurant.
I'm going to meet them there.
I'm actually down in the Orlando area right now.
No way.
How long are you going to be there?
I'm leaving tomorrow.
So, you know, hello, goodbye kind of stuff.
I didn't even know about your trip down here.
No.
Well, it's been in the group, but that's a, that's a flyby.
Yeah, I mean, there was a.
Yeah.
So many.
messages in there that there's no way you're reading too many i i i pay attention to that group chat
there's too many well yeah i mean that's your guys that's your job you're coming out you're coming out
west with us right yeah i'll be there i'll be in uh Vegas the couple days before but i think what that's on
next or saturday or friday yeah yeah big announcement big announcement in that line nelly
quarter signs with taylor may golf um huge oh big week for her big week for her she signed with nike apparel
then she signed with Taylor-made golf.
So just a big stretch for her.
She's, I saw our boy, Adrian, who is, uh, who's Rory's guy.
We've had on a handful of times.
He was fucking awesome.
He was tweeting about Nellie's hitting the stealth to HD and how it's perfect for it.
He was going through it.
It's like she's just a tailoring athlete now.
So hopefully we can do some cool stuff with her because I know we've talked about it here.
I think it was during the, the P&C, the family event a couple weeks ago or a month ago,
when we were talking about her.
swing was just mesmerizing everyone and max homel and kevin kisner were talking about and their press were just
being like i've never played with someone who didn't miss a shot the entire day and that's how she plays
golf all time so all of a sudden bang she's a terra-made athlete uh which is really cool so hopefully
we can do some cool stuff with her that'd be good luck to her brother in the australian open you know
i mean athletic family australian open starting up how about kirios will tell you out knee
surgery devastating bummer that's the problem with tennis dude as long as you like lock it in i think
he gets a $50,000 check for the first round.
So it's like so stupid to announce now.
But anyways, it's a whole.
He's such a head case to me as an outsider looking in that do you ever like, like, like,
you don't, you look through an injury like this and it's almost like something else as opposed
to a new injury?
Is he legit?
Like is he actually like withdrawing for medical reasons and like physical.
I think he is.
I mean, he's Australian.
I assume he would love to play in the Australian Open.
Yeah.
He's playing some great tennis these days.
Like I think that's real.
You know, who's to say, though?
I can see being a guy that just like backs up because he doesn't want to play that
week and some fucking politics behind the scenes where he's just like,
fuck you,
I'm not coming.
And there's like, say,
I have a knee injury.
He's just like,
he's so wishy-washy that like somebody might have said like F you,
Curios.
And he's like,
you know what?
Screw the Australian country.
I'm not playing.
You know,
and then just pulls out.
Like I could,
I could see him flip flopping pretty fast.
But no,
I mean,
I think it's legit.
Who knows.
All right.
Well,
anyways,
It's good seeing your boys' faces.
Yeah, this is fun.
Enjoy Orlando.
I don't know when we'll cross the weather.
A couple weeks would be fun.
Absolutely stunning.
I can get some color out there or what?
Yeah, I mean, like this week, it's supposed to be mid-70s or something like that.
Looks great.
I haven't seen the sun on Long Island in three weeks.
Yeah, it's ugly stuff.
It's crazy.
It's gray every day.
I'm actually going to go play a little golf in a couple minutes right now and my brother.
Oh, there you go.
Lovely.
Live like a king this week.
Well, seriously.
We'll see you next week out west where we'll have the whole.
And then I'll see your two mugs tomorrow in Orlando.
That's right.
All right. Travel safe.
All right.
Travel safe, everyone.
Hit it hard.
Hit hard.
Hit hard.
Hit hard.
