Fore Play - Markergate: The Greatest Story Rarely Told

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

Riggs is back and so is Tiger. Speaking of Tiger, we recount when TW took a marker from Frankie’s friend which led to quite the debacle. We run our annual audit of Sam Snead’s wins, Frankie Facts makes an appearance, discuss a scary story out of the Pinehurst , and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot, his name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he was nice to it across the green. Nice to be here, boys.

Congratulations on all that you're doing is as mediocre as a, as a nice name. it is. Brok 100. Yeah. Now you gotta break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool.

Thank you. You're making it cool. We appreciate it. After watching you this year, I'm very much thinking about getting so I have a fusion surgery. Skip that. I was like, hey, Phil,

you only fucking 2999. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. Oh my God. Take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you guys taking with it?

It's ain't a hobby. For Play, brought to you by Barstools. sports presented by our very good friends at Chevy. We love Chevy. You had a Chevy on the T-box of Barstool Classic last week, which was, I believe, Erica Nardini's biggest dream at the very beginning of the Barstool Classic. And Lisa Litvak texted her picture of that Chevy, EUV, on the T-box, the 11th hole of talent last week.

And she said, my dream has finally come true. She was like hounding the sales team four years ago. We got to get a car in T-box. I feel like that's a legitimate tournament. And Chevy made it happen. So big thanks to Chevy. Dan, I got to ask you, how was the Bahamas? I know I wasn't on last show.

I was jealous you were in the Bahamas. How was the Bahamas? The Bahamas was a kick and sack being. You say, were the Bahamas? Was the Bahamas? How, uh, I think the Bahamas is singular. Did you see multiple Bahamas? Were you at like, uh, yeah, actually, because my hotel was on, uh, Paradise Island

Island and the golf course was on New Providence. The Bahamas was great. It was definitely a kick in the sack being on a plane to Atlanta and getting the notification that Tiger Woods had withdrawn. I have Tiger Woods. I have Tiger Woods tweet notifications set on my phone because you just never know when things are going to pop off. I think he's the only one. I think he might be the only one who I have like anytime Tiger tweet something, whether it's about the TGR Foundation or withdrawing for tournament. I get a notification. So that sucked. But yeah, it was great. I mean, that's just the greatest week of all time. It's, it's,

Albany is such not a real place. It's so hard to explain. Like you, you guys got to come next year. It's an incredible week. And fruit salad is like $26 and it's just billionaires only and it's crazy. I'd go to the Bahamas. Yeah. A lot of yachts, I feel like a lot of yachts. A lot of yachts and the guy who built the place, this guy Joe Lewis who owns. The boxer?

No, not the boxer. I think it's called more, more like the Jewish financier. We're trying to get us fired on our on the right cylinders for a dozen tribute. We got a dozen trivia. Anything that comes in my head, I'm just going to stay because I got to keep myself fresh. So he built this incredible place Albany.

He built this marina and his yacht doesn't fit. His yacht's too big for the marina. So he has to park his yacht somewhere else. That's fucking incredible. Good for him. Good for him. Good for him. That's right.

Victor Hovlin, you know, the whatever, 18 people. Is that how many people play in that event now these days? 20. 20 people, tigers out there with Charlie. We got a great from the gallery question, actually. That was like, I tuned into the hero. I noticed, let me make sure this guy gets some love. Daniel, favorite, truly flavored black cherry.

But he said, I tune in to the hero Sunday, and Tiger and Charlie are in their red shirts. And he's from the gallery question was like, how many days of the year do you think Tiger go suits up and goes red shirt? And I thought that was a great question. Like, is there, is it commercial shoots? Does he always go red shirt for commercial shoots? Does he just like, what would determine I'm going to go? Sunday Red for a commercial shoot if it's on like Tuesday, did he

visit not big enough for him to do? And got me thinking a lot about how often does Tiger actually suit up in Sunday Red? Because the thought of him on Sunday, just to go like hand out a trophy and sit on the broadcast for a few minutes and go full suit up is really fucking funny that he does that. Well, we got a little bit of a look into this

when we were at Taylor Made Media Day because his rack, the great rack of him and Rory, was right next to the table. And on the end, Did we ever tell that story publicly? We did, yeah. I don't know. Did we tell that story?

I think so. I'm pretty sure we did. It might have been the hardest one Macaro has ever laughed, ever. I thought we did tell it. We'll tell it then. Well, we were sitting there at Taylor Made Media Day and we're just kind of staring at all the things around us. And they have all these clothes on racks. They have Rory Macaroid.

They have Tiger Woods on the same one. They've got Ricky out there. They've got Scotty Sheffler, Colin Morikawa, the whole deal. And I'm kind of sitting there and, you know, all the workers are getting ready and they're getting ready for the photo shoots. And I say out loud, I said, that's just a great rack. And then there's a woman. And then there's a woman at the table. A female worker there that was steaming the shirts on the tiger rack.

And I obviously was only looking at the tiger red shirt. And her chest was facing us. Right. So then the whole table's like, Jesus. Like Taylor made looks at me. They're like, whoa. And I was just like, no, no, no. like the red shirt, the Tiger Woods shirt plus the Rory Macroix.

That's an all-time rack. That's the best rack of all time. Wow. I didn't, I was right up there with Dolly Parton. That rack is so good. It's between Dolly Parton and that rack. If you think I had any thoughts in my head aside from that red staring at me. I mean, that is, you know, people go to museums all the time to see like historical artifacts and

like what did this guy? What did Winston Churchill where when he signed this document? You go to this like old school historical place. and you're like, oh, look at that's the pen they use. And dude, we were looking at the red mock neck sitting there in a fucking hall. Like it was a grand hall. And this lady was just like steaming it. That's like one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life.

I touched it. We walked by and I kind of just like rubbed my finger on it. Touch what? I touched the shirt on the rack. Touch the rack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, we were walking by and I kind of just stuck my finger at and just grazed my pinky on the red shirt. I mean, if we had all turned around and it had just been a woman standing there,

we wouldn't take Frankie in public anymore. We would not allow him to be public facing on this podcast. No, it was. It was just, you know, the phrase, wow, that's a great rat.

It's just not usually applicable to almost anything other than someone like derogatorily commenting on a woman. So you're not going to get me to say I don't enjoy, I enjoy all forms of racks. I like racks of ribs. I like racks of ribs. I like racks of tits. I like racks of clothing. I love.

them all. I like racks of clothes. I'm sorry, racks of money like Danny was just doing. You got to spray the money around. Listen, I love all racks. Racks are all created equal. This one happened to be the best one. It had Tiger Woods's shirt. And you then told that story to Rory McElroy and he laughed a lot. He thought it was hilarious. He thought it was hilarious. I mean, one of the odds of you being able to use the term rack when there's multiple racks involved. It's like insane. That's what I'm saying. That almost that situation is almost it reminded me of. of, oh my God. It reminds me of awesome.

It reminded me of awesome powers. We're like, oh, my gosh, look at that huge. And then he's like, and then they never say that. Yeah. Yeah, Johnson. Yeah, that's true. So Tiger for this shoot did go to that great rack where he had a red polo. So I'm wondering, do we?

I asked him once. What do you say? He said that it's actually a final round thing. It's not, it's like, it's really like a mean business thing. It's not necessarily a Sunday thing. No, I get that,

but I'm saying like, does he like, he doesn't wear it when he's not playing, he said on Sundays. But I'm saying like the, what's the criteria for red versus purple at like an appearance? Because for the Taylor Made thing, he was going like,

they had red and black at Taylor Made Media Day. Is there a time when he's like, this sponsor isn't big enough? We're not. going red we're going like fucking white. Is that how does that work? I guess it's a peek into his psychology. Like, like Dan just said, when he asked him, it was business like it's not necessarily

on Sundays. I'm going to try to win this tournament. It's is this event important enough to me that I'm going to put on the red? Taylor made, you know, I'm guessing they pay him a decent amount of money every year. He's like, all wear the red. Yeah, I don't know if he chooses his outfits though for shoots. I think that's there's like a wardrobe situation. But he's got to say in it, right?

Yeah, I guess if he does a. want to wear a shirt. He's not fucking wearing the shirt. Like, think about, you know, I'm sure he's very serious about his, you know, he's building these golf courses, right? But I have definitely seen him out in with hilarious picture, scouting land in like cargo pants on cargo pants, like a blue shirt and like weird, weird shoes. So maybe it's clearly important to him, but it's not, I'm not going to wear the red polo to scout out this property. Right. Right. So yeah, I think that's an interesting cutoff of like this is big enough today i'm going i'm going i'm going i'm going going red fucking polo and i i was amazed that he did it for the broadcast i'm trying to

think there was something else that we were blown away that he should he showed up in the full suit up i'm trying to remember what that was but um but yeah it's it's it's a good question it's interesting look into his psychology i want the i want the i want the pj tour to retire that uniform once he's done yeah hang in the rafters hang in the red polo it's like No one's wearing, you know, no one's wearing 42 in, that's probably wasn't the best comparison. Either way. How far have we come from when Phil Mickelson was wearing the Sunday red after Tiger's accident? I mean, wow.

Remember when Patrick Reed would just occasionally wear it just on a normal day? And we're like, what's happening? Yeah. That's a peak in his thing. I just really like the way red looks on my complexion. The red in the black is a really good look for me. From Bolt to Blazer, Equinox to Silverado, Chevy EVs are for everyone everywhere. I know what you talked about Chevy a little bit in the car and the classic and the whole deal.

This, this, um, bolt EUV that we had on the T-box, first time I actually really got to look at one of these EVs. It is fantastic. And the fact that it just doesn't have an engine and they're just runs on a battery is incredible. And now the fact that Chevy is making these puppies in all kinds of different styles that you've come to know and love. How can he not just be a huge Chevy guy at this point? I think Frankie has, Frankie may have put a soft promise on becoming a Chevy guy pretty soon. Did you?

Yeah. So I said I got my email from my current car company saying that you have to make your decision in the next five months. You have your lease coming up. What do you want to do? Do you want to extend? Do you want to do that? You want to buy it back?

You want to get a new one. So the first thing I did was I closed out of that email and I went to Chevrolet.com. And I just started building. And I said last, last episode, there's nothing more fun than building out specs of cars. You do the different trims, the different interiors, get wacky with it. Oh, a beige interior on a black car. Wow, that looks classy. So it's very, very fun to be able to do that.

There's no better time than this time right now. Like when you get the car, you have the car. It's just like a part of your life. But like the buildup, going to the place, talking to the guys, seeing it inside the showroom. I'm excited for all that. I'm really excited for all that. I agree. You're making a lot of sense.

They're affordable now. So you don't have to be some rich person. to get an EV with an established full-line brand like Chevrolet can offer all kinds of EV vehicles with the value in the variety and the value of customers all over the world have come to expect Chevrolet EVs for everyone everywhere. Speaking of Tiger Woods, did you see, did you see Pat Perez's wife like absolutely went crazy on Tiger Woods? I don't know.

I'm asking you guys. That was real. Wow. I think so, right? She's a bit of a wild card. But what a fall from Grace, that relationship's turning into V. the Tiger Paperez one. I'm working on a piece for next week that's kind of a wrap up of the whole year and stuff

and just going back through because this was just the craziest year of old. Wrap up. Yeah, wrap up. And yeah, you're right. Are you referring to like what he said. I remember at Riviera when he was like, I don't know what's going on with Phil. Like, I'm with Tiger all the way. I love the way tigers handled this whole thing.

We've eaten dinner at Paperez's ass and he made like a speech like over drinks being like Tiger Woods is our Lord and Savior and all these other fucking assholes that don't give this guy like every single piece of like everything they own is because of this man. What you think I'm I give a fuck because I don't have a bigger checkbook. No, I shouldn't have any money. I was doing nothing my life. And Tiger Woods is the reason why he did this whole. We were right, right, right, run through a wall.

Right. Because he's a really interesting case of he is one of the guys who came up with Tiger and saw all the purses expand while Tiger was dominating. So he is, he is, he had a front row seat to that. And yeah, like Frankie's saying at dinner, he is just saying, we owe everything to this guy. He's a loyal motherfucker to Tiger Woods. He was, yeah, like he would get very passionate about it. So it is interesting to see where that relationship has gone.

Yeah. And then, I mean, somebody writes him a check and he's like, well, I got to take that check. Yeah. I mean, none of that other stuff matters, which I get. I don't, you know, but it is publicly, it's tough to you because that dinner, Ashley Perez cooked us that dinner. She, like, made us dinner. We're at the home.

They're great people. Don't get me wrong. They've always been a fantastic human beings. It doesn't, where they get their money to me doesn't change who they are. It's just now if you're going on Instagram, my gosh. Like you can't. She wrote something about like, oh, is this what happens when people drive under the influence? Like how many people could you have killed?

She went low. She went. Jesus Christ, man. Like, let's just like turn the phone off. It is a situation where, you know, like not to get into politics, but when like the world is so politicized. And you have people in your life that think differently than you. and you allow those biases or thoughts to separate your friendship. When that's not the way it should be at all.

Like you, you just got to look through the bullshit and be like, we're friends like at the end of it. Like I get that. Where is this money coming from? Who's on what side? Like it's getting in the golf world, it's getting to a point now where it's never,

ever been before where Phil is coming out during a press conference and saying, you know, I think I'm on the right side of history here, which basically makes everyone try or makes everyone pick a side. And that gets very ugly. So, and then it goes down the hill, down the hill to the point where Pat Perez, who loves Tiger Woods. And I think they had a great relationship in the past. People in their circles are now talking shit about the other side because of all of this golf drama, which is insane that it's gotten here.

Well, yeah. We went from like, hey, I'm going to play in this other golf tournament this weekend instead of that one to like, well, actually, you pretty much killed seven people when you drove your car off a cliff. we went there overnight. Like what the hell? And you're kind of like, uh, what? Like we're just,

yeah, it's just people playing different golf, golf course, golf tournaments, whatever, which we've obviously discussed at length, but you're right. And so it is,

I think it flipped a couple things, which we talked about. One is when the Trumpster got involved, because that just, when it was at whatever, Bedminster, wherever it was, that instantly ignited a lot of feelings for different people,

just seeing them out there, seeing them involved in the program, the whole deal. And then the lawsuit, which every pro we've had on, we had Harris English on, we've had all these different folks on. They've been like, yeah, it was all cool. You know, I get it until they fucking sued us. And then it got really personal. And that feels like things heavily flipped.

But those were, yeah, those were aggressive. Those are our Instagram is where she was fired off. It was a comment underneath something. Yeah, it's a weird one. We've talked about this, just how fast everything's happened. Because, again, the first live event was like less than six months ago. I think it was five months ago, just how fast all of this has happened. And Pat Perez, again, was what was looking through kind of his year because he's, he's been

someone that, you know, it's an interesting prism to look through the live stuff through this guy. Remember when there were those rumors about, oh, like, I don't know if the money is front loaded or if it's like an advance against future earnings? And someone asked him, you know, about his $10 million. He goes, oh, nope, it all came in one piece. It was fucking unbelievable. That's what he said. And listen, Pat Perez has been huge for this brand.

The guy gave us a shot to go out there and play with him. he opened us, he opened up his doors to us legitimately, like showed us the tour of his house, all his Jordans. I'm a Pat Perez guy. I enjoy him and his personality. I think he was huge for the PGA tour. He was an awesome guy. It's just I think he's catching himself into some like weird shit right now.

And it comes with that, that's like when you signed on that dotted line with Liv, you knew this was going to happen. And he probably knows it. I mean, he's like the most real guy out there. You don't think he's sitting there telling people like, oh, I'm going to get a fucking shit ton of shit for this. Like you just, you know he was saying that to his buddies being like, it's over for me. like my public perception is going to change forever.

But I also just got to check for however many millions of dollars to come and play a sport that wasn't even making the cut on. It's like crazy. Yeah, he's made a killing by that move too, not just the upfront money. I mean, he's on the fucking aces or whatever their team is. He made a million, right?

Remember when that he made $8 million? Remember that he didn't break 80 twice? And then I think it was like he didn't break 80 twice, but made three million that week. And he made more than the winner on the PGA tour. It's insane. It's hard to hate on that. It's just hard to hate on that move by Pat Perez.

Any more the suit with all the money on it. He's been a character. Someone gave me $30 million. I think I'd wear a suit with money on it. Fuck yeah. You guys know, I'm a man for theatrics. I'll show up with a fucking money tie on for sure. It's like I have all this.

I love it. It's not only in my bank accounts on my clothes. It's everywhere. I got money everywhere. A couple administrative things. We got Myrtle Beach. Episode 3 is coming out. Is that right?

We're on episode 3 now. Yep. That's right. Tonight. Myrtle Beach was great. We had ourselves an absolute blast. We played every course we played was very different, which I liked. And a couple of them really, really popped.

This started to get into the point of the trip. We're now Dan. this is like two days after he joined the crew is when we're doing this episode three here starting to get heated you like to win i like to win we're on the same team um we're in kind of a must win situation against borelli and trent ryan um and things came down to the absolute wire in this match yes for the shark tooth obviously very very important for the shark tooth yeah this the whole entire series was great. I think it's a totally different side that we haven't seen where it was like I mean a lot of our videos are mainly like here's the golf course. This is why you should come to this

place. That's what the travel series really is. It's like look how cool this spot is. Look at all the amazing people that work here. We're going to give you drone footage and then we're also going to play a fun match and there's probably going to be a bunch of laughs. This I felt like was the first time where it was like on the 12th hole of this match. It's me and trying to look at each other being like, if we don't win this, we're going to like, we're going to, kill ourselves. I think you said, I think you said fuck these guys at some,

I did. At one point I just fuck these guys. Like that was weird. It just got very, very intense. Like it was just, we had to just keep playing better golf. So it was fun to get back into that mode.

I don't know if it was like the home run derby aspect. Like I just felt like very sporty that week. Like I felt very competitive in Myrtle Beach. And then we also, Myrtle Beach is that kind of place. You can play all your, you can play all your matches with your buddies. And then you can go have like,

uh, one of those crazy blue shark. drinks like overlooking the ocean and then you have like a ferris wheel in the background so a lot of it's very fun um it's very laid back but also the golf is pristine i mean come on guys that's some of the best golf we've seen ever there's like a million courses there's like yeah there's like 70 courses or something within the myrtle beach confines which is a lot of a lot of golf we saw all over the place a lot of really good ones different style so um so yeah it was fun showcasing myrtle beach like you're saying is this episode the one where we did have

that, what do we get like fish and chips or something and then drinks on the water and like that like pier we were at? Oh yeah. I don't even know what episode that. That might have been in the last episode. I remember that. That was fantastic. I don't think I was there.

I think that might have been the first episode. I think that might have been the first episode. We fillet a fish too. Yeah. We did filet a fish. Is that in this episode? I don't know what's. I can't remember, man.

But we did a lot of shit in Myrtle Beach. It's an amazing place. What a tease we're doing right now. We just don't know what's in the video. But it could be in any of them. So you got to check them all out, you know? That guy was like a food, Food Network star in the making that guy.

That guy was incredible. That guy should have his own show for sure. I think he was ready for the camera. He's a camera friendly person, big time. Very much so. And then we got our merchandise is coming out in PGA Tour 2K. Is that correct now, too? Yeah, starting today.

Yeah, this is the Mark Burns tweet from a couple days ago where we talked about it a little bit on the last show, but starting December 8th through the 14th is the breaking 90 game mode challenge on PJT tour. or 2K 23 and the more times you break 90, the more barstool golf merch that will be available to you. You hear that sentence. You hear that sentence, Trent, you just take a step back and just like examine that sentence.

I know. I've done, yeah, we, you know, we talked about it a little bit last show, but yeah, I mean,

I just sometimes sit and I think about it. It's pretty amazing that we, you know, did breaking 100, breaking 90 and then people liked it enough where they're like, 2K was like, hey, we'll put this in the video game and try to get people to do what you're trying to do.

It's very cool. It's very cool. getting into a video game is so insane you can be a professional athlete and not even like obviously you're in the game but they won't like curate your face to look like you because you're kind of just like not a star player you have your name in there but it doesn't look anything like you like the fact that they're doing this for us is otherworldly he tweeted us was like jealous i can't believe you're in this game and i'm not in the fucking game yeah no it's stunning so yeah go check it out obviously pGA tour 2k is um it's a blast They've got so many golf courses. They're going to have us merchandise, the whole deal in there. So make sure you check that puppy out. And then Friday, so tomorrow, for everyone listening, is the last day that you can order merchandise from the Barstville store

and have a guaranteed delivery by Christmas. So store dot Barstlesports.com. We would prefer it if you click that little Foreplay tab there. You can go to Brands, Foreplay, Scroll through that puppy. We got Mac Weldon. We got Peter Malar in there. We got Roeback, Unreal, Unr-R-L, hats, accessories. head covers, the whole deal, all in the shop still.

So I know we did the whole deal for Black Friday, Cyber Monday. You probably saw us tweeting about it. You probably saw us put stuff on Instagram. Well, you can still get that stuff. It's not 20% off anymore, but you can still just get stuff. So if you missed it, make sure you go to store. dot parcel sports.com. Check out a bunch of our gear.

Order that shit by Friday. And it's guaranteed delivery by Christmas. I've got a couple announcements in regards to merchandise. I want to announce the two names of our winners. So this is a big moment. Last year we had, so this is Trent and I's winners. So you guys,

How do we find the winners? Can I find the winners? Yeah, I just like, I've been working on it. I don't know. You can go find your winners. I've been working on it.

Worked with the merchandise team. We went through. There was thousands of people to choose from. So we ended up just curating it into a system in which just randomly picked the name. I couldn't do it on one of those spin wheel things on my own. on my own system because there was over there was thousands of names so they had to do it in their back end where they basically just hit this button and it shot out of name so i've got two guys

that now are going to be playing golf with trent and i a colonial springs golf club here on long island then we're going to go get a feast at borelli's these are two separate times so these are two separate winners all you have to do was spend a hundred dollars in the barstool store on four play merch and you automatically entered our two winners last year we had anthony testy and he brought his buddy Angus and it was a great time. Tony Ballsack. Unfortunately, this time, we don't have the funniest names. I wish that we had more names that had to do with male genitalia, but we do not.

Zach Barroner is the first winner. Zach Barroner, I believe he might be from Chicago, if I can remember correctly. I don't know, but if you're Zach Barroner, you reach out to me. I don't know if you have a Twitter. I don't know if you have a Facebook. I don't know if you have an Instagram, but you have to reach out to be Zach Barroner is the first winner. and then Anthony Vincent.

I believe this guy's from the Pittsburgh area. Anthony Vincent, two first names. So you always have to be weary about guys like that. Hopefully that's like, yeah, I mean, Trent Ryan, you guys are going to fit right in. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, that's correct. So Anthony Vincent and Zach Barroner, you are the winners.

We always come through. We have our winners. So for anyone that did not win that competition, you still have Danny Rapaport's Quaker, Forsom, which is incredible. And then Riggs has a couple of them that are insane. So Riggs obviously has the cottage and then at Greyhawk, the foursomes.

I'll do mine next week. My announcement, I don't want to steal your thunder of Barroner and the two first name guys. So I'm not going to steal your thunder. But next week I'll announce. I got, I think, a three nights stay is what I offered up for the Pioneer's house. We had to talk about Pioneers by the crazy situation going on. I was going to ask you if you're plugged in on that. I was a little plugged out of everything for the last four or five days, but I got, I'm being,

I'm being plugged back in. I mean, domestic terrorism in pinesers. They are near piner's, but they basically went to two different power stations and shot them up like in a very deliberate way. So there's just no power in southern pines or piner's for, I think they said the earliest it would be is like Friday or Saturday is the earliest the power would be back.

When you say shot them up, what do you mean? Like AR-15s and they purposely like shot the like bullets into to basically destroy the power like transfusions, I guess they are, whatever. That sounds like a call-of-duty mission. Did they kill humans or no? I don't think, from what I've seen, there weren't any fatalities or injuries, but they, like, in a very deliberate act, I think the sheriff came out and said, like, these people knew

what they were doing. They have no idea what the motive was. They have no idea who any suspects are. But they went with AR-15s and shot, I believe, two different, like, stations. And so the power is out. At Piner's, they had to. relocate everyone to the Carolina hotel. And then

they're trying to do food service because they have a generator there or something like that. But I've been trying to get up to date on the situation. Obviously, I don't live there. So I didn't really know what was going on, but no power at the house. So I imagine the freezer and all that, everything's ruined. But hopefully everything's fine. I think it's pretty chilly there at night and

stuff. So people have no fucking power. It's amazing how much news is happening on any given day where that didn't even come across my radar. Didn't come across. It doesn't look like it came across Frankie's desk. come across my radar. That is that's really something. Dude. And you know, I got my buddies in town. So we've been drinking it, starting at 8 a.m. every day playing golf, having big matches, having a good time. And I'm seeing this like, uh, domestic, uh, terrorism and piner's come across

my desk. I'm like, what? Like, what is going on here? So, um, so yeah, pretty wild situation. Hopefully the power will be back on by the time, uh, one of these winners gets to go to the home for three nights and enjoy their stay. And then I'm also going to bring a foursome. So one of the winners will bring three friends out. We'll go play at Greyhawk. Obviously, the host of the Barstall Classic Championship, great relationship with them up there.

They're the fucking best. So we'll go out there. We'll have a couple cocktails, couple truilies, play a little bit of golf and enjoy ourselves. So I got two winners to announce next week. Awesome. I guess I'll do the week after. We'll roll it out before the holidays.

Hell yeah. We'll roll it out. Game time, baby. We're talking on this show. We talk about the blues, the islanders, going to games, going to venues, going to concerts, whatever. Nothing better. Nothing better.

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We're in the jersey right now. I'm sure they've got a bunch of games coming up. If you want to go to a hockey game, like Rick said, anything, hockey, basketball, concert, game time is the place to go. Islanders are going to Arizona in the next week or two. So you got to go check them out at that little high school rink you guys got there in Arizona. I want to see, but apparently the environment in there is fantastic. Yeah. You keep saying that.

$1,500. Yeah, it's very, very small capacity, but I think the place does get electric. We've been going all year. I've been using game time legitimately all year, starting with the Yankees. I went to a bunch of Yankees games this year, thanks to game time, last minute. Nothing better than just sitting around being like, what do you want to do tonight? You want to go to a movie? You want to go to bowling.

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yesterday, which is a public course near the airport in Phoenix. Kind of an awesome spot. One of those that you get- I grew up. Just keep myself fresh. Smart. That's a good idea. One of those courses that a lot of people highlight as underrated and good value. Golf is very expensive in Phoenix Castle area, very expensive. Raven is not crazy. It's like 130 or something, but fantastic. And I know 130 is expensive, but compared to like TPC goes for like four or five hundred bucks this time of year.

It's not. So Raven, great spot. But we're out there. And we're behind two foursums. and two foursomes of Asian ladies that are probably middle age. We didn't like, yeah, I think they were like middle age, Asian ladies. And they were great. They played lightning fast.

They're having a great time. And then afterwards, they were in the bar and they were having a bunch of drinks, had a nice lunch. And we have our demographic, right? If we walk into a sports bar and there are, you know, a table of eight, like 28-year-old white dudes with like Taylor made hats on, we're like, oh, they're probably going to know who we are. These ladies were, again, they're awesome.

It was like our crew, me and my three buddies and their crew were like the two groups at this bar on a fucking Monday having drinks after a round of golf, whatever. And then on their way out, they stopped and we're like, hey, we're huge barstool fans. Can we take a picture? I was like, I got to be honest. I didn't like, we never get this from this demographic. Our demographic, like I said, is pretty fucking straightforward. and doesn't veer a ton, even though we're trying to get better at that.

And they stopped and were like, we'd love to take a picture. We're big fans, took a quick picture. And they marched on their way out and had a great day. It just blew me away. I was completely shocked at apparently the reach that we have now. That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful story. It was great.

Did you ask them what kind of, like are they, do they listen to the podcast? Do they watch the YouTube? I'll be honest. They didn't speak. From my knowledge, they weren't like, I don't think English was their first language. So even when they asked to like take a picture. They very quickly were just kind of like, hey, do you like, we take a picture real quick. It wasn't a ton of conversation.

I was like, yeah, absolutely. And then they said, thank you. They were super nice. They went on their way. So it wasn't, we didn't have like a deep conversation. It all was very quick. Interesting. That's awesome though.

Nice to know. Nice to know that we're broad like that. Yeah, I got a couple selfie requests. I mean, the increase since I've joined this podcast is is really something. Like I went to my, went to the country club or the course where I grew up. And I, there was like five people who came. about to me and we're like, you know, awesome. So you guys are the one where Frank you and Trent aren't allowed out there.

Yeah. You're talking about. No, they played. I still haven't finished my investigation as to how they were allowed in. No, I have a little, a little tail as well. I was playing golf this last weekend and I was playing with three other guys, three buddies, Harris Rabin. I know you're listening.

I was playing with Harris Rabin. And they're all carrying their backs very clearly that they're going to carry their bags. And I kind of ask for a push cart because I, my back, why, we talk about my back being, being a bit of an issue on this podcast. and they were like, yeah, sorry, we don't have a good stretch. Obviously, fucking Gumby. Exactly. And obviously, I wasn't going to be the one guy who took a cart.

So once there was, the cart wasn't an option and the push cart wasn't an option. Then I carried my bag. My back completely locked after 14 holes. Yeah. I played, I played 14 holes in even par. And I didn't, I couldn't even finish the last five because my back, do you guys carry your bags? Like, I guess it's been, it probably been like a year or two. I know that people are going to say, oh, it would have been.

pussy blah blah you know we we push we take cards when we film i use push cards like pretty frequently i don't carry my bag very often um i don't think i can play today still caddies at your elite clubs and stuff other people carrying your bag when's the last time we carried you think i'm what i carried pretty recently i have not carried in a while fall golf i played and just carried this is carry season this is carry season where it's a little chilly out you get leaves all over the place nice to stay a little warmer. I care only go to St. Louis at Bogie Hills Country Club where they're having the we're having the Barstall Classic there this

next coming year. But they do Carpath only from like fucking October through March, which is stupid by the way. That's tough. So it's and it's a short course. So it's like if you're going to do Carpath only the whole time, it's more fun to just walk if you're in a walking spot. So we just walk good about. But I like walking. Walk it's nice. But yeah, my back hasn't been

thrown out. I have a crazy story from yesterday too. We're on. We're on the ninth hole at Raven. And it's a pretty tree-lined place. It actually has some Sage Valley type vibe. Some of the images. It's like very green, beautiful kind of like corridors that go through, which is why it's so cool because you're in Phoenix.

You don't expect it. Whatever. So we haven't long-star show. We haven't really seen anyone all day. A couple times away on the, or like the, we let like a threesome behind us go because they were flying and we were trying to chill and hang out. Other than that, we almost didn't see really anyone or chat with you're kind of on your own hole you get to the tea maybe you see somebody out in the

favorite video and see that many people whatever we get to the ninth hole my buddy jeremy who actually played pretty well throughout the day had his his worst shot of the day it's like this low you know like barely off the ground way left driver that goes into these bushes like 50 40 yards in front of the tea gone in the bushes and we're just like oh shit bad you know whatever bummer jay you got to reload whatever five seconds later australia guy comes out of those bushes and it's like he's like, oh, he almost got my kneecap there, mate. And he's got on a full fly fishing garb and a fly fishing rod. And we were just like, and he was far enough away that we didn't really get to talk to him.

He kind of just walked like away behind the T-box and went away. And we were like, we're in Arizona. Like there can't be a trout for a thousand miles. Right. How was the fishing in Arizona? I was like, did I miss the pond in this story? It took me five minutes after that because I was just in tears. Like, we just were standing there like, what the fuck? And then we actually invoked Frankie. We were like, that's a simulation. Like, that guy can't have just been there. Like, there's no way that comes. That's a glitch in the system. Like, they unfortunately, when they, when they were plotting us all around, they put a, they put a fisherman in the middle of the desert. and they're like, fucking Larry, you put a fisherman in Scottsdale.

Why did you have to do that? What the fuck did you do, Larry? And he just, third time this week, we found a guy outside of his own. It was to this moment, the most perplexing thing I've probably ever witnessed in my whole life.

Just Australian guy in Phoenix in full fly fishing gear, behind some bushes on the ninth tee at Raven. And then he just walked away. That's just a lot to handle. Did your guy find his ball? Was it near him over there? No, he goes, he goes,

he goes, oh, it almost took off. my kneecap there mate but it's just it's right over here by me you'll see it like all right great we got up there never found never found it yeah that's definitely that guy was that guy probably yeah that guy did not exist i don't think you never actually saw anybody yesterday boy we were like do we need to leave like we can't this is like west world totally you're like yeah it was what is the squad that's out there rigs are these college friends who who's who's who's there uh three of my best buddies from home uh just kind of like day ones we went to you know we played high school hockey and middle school hockey

together, street hockey, whatever. And they're the guys that I do the most golf trips with. They probably do two Arizona trips a year, I would say, and then we usually do a Pioneer's trip or two. And then we have our big trip that's 12 guys. That's the one we're doing Big Cedar next year. We did Pioneer's this year. Last year we did Aaron Hills, the year before we couldn't do because of COVID.

We had COVID it out. And then the year before that, we went to Cabot. So I think actually in two years we're going to do five-year anniversary of the trip, we're going to do, or the fifth annual trip, we're going to do Cabot. We're going to return to there. But, but yeah, it's like, he's got, my brother, my brother, four or five of his best buddies and then four or five of my best buddies from growing up. And we kind of do a handful of golf trips here.

We're recording this on Tuesday. So the Islanders are playing the blues tonight. On Long Island, the Blues are in town. They lost a heartbreaker to the Rangers last night. So hopefully they can lose two in a row. I hate when a team is on a back-to-back and they lose a heartbreaker the night before. You know they're coming in with fucking. bad blood today. I agree. I agree. I think this is a trap game for betting because people are going to be like, oh, they're back to back. They're on the road, whatever. I think the blues are going to win tonight, but they are a weird hockey team, dude. They're fucking, they're like 11 and 14 now and they started 3 and O'O. They lost eight in a row. Then they won seven in a row. And now they've lost like four in a row. It's really weird.

Thomas Grace, the old Islander is playing against us tonight. A lot of signs are showing a bet against the Islanders, even though they're like minus 185 favorites tonight. So it should be an interesting one to bet. I'm obviously riding hard on the aisles, but, oh, speaking of hockey, fuck, I always keep, how many times am I going to have to wear this guy's jersey? I mean, I'll hold it up today. I thought you only had to do it one time. No, I told him, like, I got to go back through. I thought about it was like four shows or something like that. I think you committed to a shockingly long period.

I'll put it on. He texted me this morning, like, what a way to start the show. The guy listens to every single show. We get him pumped up for his ice hockey games. And then he beats the Islander. If the Islanders missed the playoffs by four points, I'm taking Matthew Shane's life. Like, he's beating the Islanders. twice and then like laughed about it in my face after each one.

Uh, I think, I think Frank is not a very good negotiator. I saw a video of bars. I, you know, I followed Islanders on Twitter, so that's kind of the way I follow them. That guy still looks incredible. That guy still looks incredible even after a full hockey. I watched, I watched an interview with him.

He's a hot guy. He's a hot guy. He's a hot guy. Barzal. Oh my God. He cut his hair. Hockey might be the sport where the guys look the most, like, beaten up after a game. Because football, I don't, I mean, football, I don't know if it's the helmets or maybe

they're not sweating quite as much, but hockey, you just look like you've been. Dude, I sat on the glass the other night and I obviously, I've watched hockey my whole life. I played a little bit of roller hockey guy here in Beth Page at the roller ring. Like the Z league. Point per game roller hockey player is just what I am statistically. But they, uh, you know, things like, you get some bruises because guys are hitting into you pretty hard and like, they're like giving you little checks in the corner. But then you watch a professional ice hockey game. And I was sitting on the glass the other day. And you can't believe these guys like have regular skin.

Like every single moment they're getting destroyed. I'm talking sticks in their arms and their backs. How are they not just completely bruised up from toe to their head? Do they just have like the strongest skin of all time now? Have they just developed no blood vessels underneath their skin? They probably are quite bruised, I would guess, right, Riggs? But like, oh yeah. The amount they get hit is, is actually.

laughable. It's laughable. Like a defenseman in the NHL is maybe the hardest job in the world. During like NHL playoffs, once you get to a third and fourth round, they talk like not a single person on the team is even close to 100% health. Yeah. Not a single person. You're just so bruised and battered. But you're right.

I think it was whenever 10 or 15 years ago, I remember ESPN did this like analytical judgment of like the hardest, physically, hardest sports to play. And hockey was number two behind boxing. Boxing was number one. hockey was literally number two.

We were talking about this. We talk a lot about it, like my buddies and I obviously, like, who played hockey forever. And like when we go to a game, like you're talking about Frankie or look, I'm like, I cannot believe we did that. Like that is, that's unimaginable that I could just go do that. I couldn't. I even close. Well, Riggs, we were talking about this with J.T. Comfer on the, on the abs.

And I was asking, because I, you know, I'm basically a hockey novice before I started this podcast. And I was asking, you know, in the end, the NBA, the best players play like 38 minutes. right, 39 minutes out of 40, whatever it is, 48 minutes. And you guys were telling me that, like, the best players in the league don't even play half the game. And that was astounding to me. Yeah. That's how taxing it is.

That there's never been one human who's just a cyborg who's like, he plays 75% of the game because he's just that fit. It's that difficult. For no one on 35 seconds. I was going to say, like the, especially forwards, like I bet, you know, McDavid and those guys like Crosby, they play under 20 minutes a game in the game. games are 60 minutes long. Defensemen can play almost half the game because they can just kind of park the bus

a little bit more in the D zone and they don't have to like. But forward, you know, you're forechecking. You're kind of skating the whole length of the ice full speed. And I always equated to people of like, it's basically riding a bike up a mountain for the whole time. That's like, that's what a shift in hockey is. So you almost can't do it longer than 40, 50 seconds at full speed. otherwise you lose that edge because you just run out of gas.

And that little difference is like somebody will just skate around you and score. Like you just can't compete. You can't skate hard because you're out of gas. You have to get off the ice. That's why there's so much like the strategy around dumping the puck in and just like changing is huge because you just have to change. What's it? Mighty Ducks 2 when she's like, change players. She's like trying to figure out what the terminology is.

But you do have to do that all the time. Otherwise you'll just get dominated when you're tired out there. Sometimes when I watch football, I miss the contact a little bit. I miss those days when you're just roughing it. But then you'll watch again. Like I watched, I don't even remember what game or what teams were playing. A guy was going across the middle and just got basically decapitated, basically how every tackle was in the 90s in the NFL. And then you remember like, oh, yeah, that's not, that's not something I want to sign up for.

I like, you know, guys being dudes hitting each other. That's fun. But then when like a real hit happens, you don't want to be involved with that. I remember, Riggs, like you're saying where like teams aren't nearly healthy enough, like at a certain point during the season. I remember when we, every year when we played football, like five or six games in, they would always give us the, there's a difference between hurt and injured speech. And you just got, they're basically saying like, suck it up and get out there. That stuff I don't miss, but sometimes I miss roughing it up a little bit.

I agree with that. I definitely agree with that. I'm a, I'm a competitor. So like, dude, the fact that you get, like, we used to be able to physically just compete against another human being and something that mattered at the time, like it really mattered is such a crazy He's on 35 now. It's been fucking 15 years or whatever. It's like to be actually preparing all week and then all day for a moment where I'm going to go out there. And I'm going to face off against other human beings that are preparing to. And I'm physically going to try to and I'm going to defeat them is fucking crazy.

Because now it's like we just have cocktails and talk about this dumb ass fucking show and hit a couple golf balls around and laugh about it afterwards. We like, oh, I lost five bucks because of nassol and we pressed. okay that's such a foreign concept to think right that's why i love golf though and that's what frankie was saying when we got really competitive in myrtle beach is because this is the only arena where we still have that available to us dudes we need to have a serious chat about your bathroom habits it's time to quit shitty scratchy toilet paper and switch to dude wipes i actually very real story had uh one of my friends this last weekend on the trip had to use the rest of we were a little bit we were a little

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That is like top tier. If you want to be a good host, you have to have the moist towelettes. You have to because there's no better way of cleaning something. Would you attack trying to clean something with a drone? dry paper towel. No, that'd be a, that'd be a less. You gotta have something wet. You go to dudewipes.com, use the code 4Play20. That's all one word, F-O-R-E-P-L-A-Y-2-0, 4-P-2-2 for 20% off your entire order at

dudewipes.com. I will say the chicklets cup got pretty real this year in February. It's like when you get out there, do you just, you just don't want to lose to another person. It's almost like, it's almost like when they show those clips on like planet Earth of like the male species fighting for the pen. It's like I just can't let this other person out here defeat me. I just can't. I'm going to, I'm going to defeat them and I can't help it. I'm going to not stop at any lengths until I win or I die. It's like you just can't help. So Trent, you played all the way

through high school football. Yeah. Yep. Were you guys good? Uh, yeah. You seen his highlight tape? No, I have not. It's on YouTube. Check it out. Barstle trend football tape. It's incredible. I, we were. We got it. We got it. I'm jealous. We were okay. We didn't win any state titles or really even make any deep playoff runs, but I think senior year, we were 7-2, so we were pretty decent. Like the high division or like the...

Yeah, yeah. What is it? 4A probably would be the division that we played in. We were okay, but we certainly weren't like they're not writing any books about our teams, but it was still super fucking fun. I played from fourth grade all the way through senior year, and I loved it. Concussions? Any concussion issues?

None that I, that were like medically diagnosed as concussions. And I don't remember ever getting my bell rung to the point. Like I remember a buddy of mine we were playing. I think it was probably sophomore year and got his bell rung real bad. And that was the first time I'd seen a concussion like that up close to the point where I would ask. It was a Saturday morning when we were playing. And I was like, what day of the week do you think it is? And he was like, what are days of the week?

And it's like, holy shit. That's when you really, that was a bad one. And they're all pretty bad. but there's there's different degrees but I never got a concussion I don't think I never broke a bone I never did any of that stuff I was pretty durable hopefully when you were playing football nobody turned a blind eye to concussions and I got to tell you something about the term the blind eye turn a blind eye that was so obvious that you were doing something it was like you had been grinding on that for five minutes over it's when he looks not exactly not exactly on my screen 20 looks away from the camera it's when he looks like that's like you know something's up in that brain something's up in that brain when he looks away. I figured it out. I got it.

It's really interesting, actually. The British naval hero, Admiral Horatio Nelson, had a blind eye. Once when the British forces signaled to have him stop attacking a fleet of Danish ships, he held up a telescope to his one blind eye and said, I do not see the signal. He continued his vicious attack and was majorly victorious. Wow. Yeah, so they were waving the white flag. He looks up with his fucking telescope.

Nope, don't see anything. Let's just keep it rolling. That's ruthless. And now they call that turn. Turning a blind eye to ignore situations, facts, or reality. What a bit. Well, he committed to the bit. That's pretty epic.

Yeah, that is legit. The more you know, Frankie Fax. Wow. That's nice. Yeah. I like to. How about fun fact? my dad's high school football team,

they tied the state championship. There was no mechanism for determining the winner. Exactly. They literally, like, they just hadn't, like the whoever's on the committee, hadn't put in the bylaws anything for a tie. And I guess he tells a story all the time, but I guess that it was like a total mud bowl pouring rain six to six. And he's still to this day.

was pissed that their kicker, who I guess was some hot shot cocky guy, missed an extra point to win the game. So they tied six to six. And I guess right after the regulation was done, they had like they all had a big meeting and they were just like, we got nothing. That's just a tie. When your dad tells that tale,

does he say it in a positive light or a negative? Because I could see some people being like, it was, okay. You'd rather have lost, you think? Totally. He doesn't claim himself to be a champion. at all. Because some people would be like, you know, it was nice that we split it.

It was a good, a hard fought game, six to six and tough conditions. And we all get to take a piece of this title back home with us. Or you can be like, we should have played rock paper, scissors afterwards to determine this thing. No, he's pissed because my dad was, uh, uh, uh, strong side safety. And so I guess the quarterback on the other team, like went to Missouri or something. It was like he was a stud. And my dad looks at it as total pride that they shut this fucking asshole down and just total disappointment that their kicker let them down because he in his mind believes that the defense,

the boys did everything that they needed to do to win a state championship and they just couldn't get it done as a team. Interesting that happened during that time because I feel like that generation's always like there were no ties when I was younger. It was always a winner and a loser. No one went home with two trophies. Like there was never, there was a winner. And you'd go home and you'd learn how to be a loser.

So no, that's very interesting to hear that back in the day that they did have that. Right. The way those stories normally end is we took our best guy. They took their best guy and they fought to the death. And that's how we determined. They had the gullies at the beginning of Troy when that giant guy comes out and he just. Well, they should have done a coin toss? Like, have you guys seen Friday Night Lights when they have to determine who gets into the playoffs

and they do a coin toss at the bus stop. And they ask everybody like, what kind of quarter are you got? One guy's like, I got a 1950 silver dollar. This guy's like, I just have a quarter. Well, yeah, I've said this on the podcast before, but that generation that always says that we're, us millennials are so soft and we love like second place and third place. And we give out all these trophies. They forget that they're the ones that fucking built the trophies and hand them out,

not the little kids. I'll die on that. He'll be like, you guys made this fucking generation. generation saw. You gave the kids the iPad. Right now. Is that what we're sticking up for us? I just,

you know, it's Christmas time. You got like uncles and aunts and everyone, all the people. Trent mentioned it before. You have people in your family that you have to argue with and everyone has like politics and all this stuff. And this,

I'm just getting ready for the debates when them, I'm ready for the backhanded under the breath comments being like, you guys are just so soft. You don't know what it was like back of the day. It's like, you're the one that gave the kids the iPad at the dinner table. I hate when they're like, oh,

the kid doesn't even look up from the dinner table. Who bought the, the iPad. That's true. You are actually. You're like having an argument with nobody on this show. Well, I'm borderline Gen Z.

You guys are, you guys are like right in the middle of millennials. And I, especially Trent and Riggs, you guys are like millennium, millennium. I think I'm, I think I'm like fringe Gen Z.

So I see things, I don't know what I am. I think you're millennial as well. 29. So my, yeah, I think millennials is like 90, uh,

Gen Z's like kind of 94, 95. Frankie, it doesn't matter how old you are once you are, a part of a certain category. You're going to be that forever. He's like up 29 He becomes a baby boomer

You and me Will be the same distance In age forever No I got that I didn't know how old you had to be to be in Like to be born into Gen Z Lennie I think it's a cutoff

Oh boy I might be 80 I don't know I don't know But you're definitely you're a millennia I have a game at home A little Like a table game called Mind the Gap

And it's like all questions from Gen Z, Gen X, Gen X, Boomers, and then, like, something else. It's a very fun game. All the questions are really hard when you start getting older. Millennial is 1980 to 1995.

Oh, yeah, I'm right in this week. 80 to 1995? Yeah. I was born in 1993. Yeah, so that puts you in there. I remember, this is, I'm dating myself, but I was like,

Y2K was a huge thing. I remember a huge thing. They didn't think the computer was going to understand. What was happening? All the banks were going to like just get fucked up. The computers weren't built with this idea that it's going to flip from 1999 to 2000 and understand it.

So the whole system was just going to come crashing out. People were like, it was like COVID. Except it was like COVID, but it didn't actually happen. Whereas COVID actually happened. It was like people were buying up toilet paper paper towel. It was over. I mean, over. And then as they were preparing for that switch were people creating little code so that

pennies on the dollar were going into their own bank account. That's a little office space. Office space. They did that for the turn of this, for the turn of the century, didn't they? Right. They did. Oh, yeah.

I believe that's what the premise was. Yeah, it was like, we have to change all of this because like the banks and like the computers don't understand that it's like it's got a switch for like 1999 to 2000. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. I'm like 99% sure that that was for the turn of the millennium. Something like that. It was a millennium. Yeah.

Not the century. Fuck. I think that's right. It was a century too. All right. We got, move on. Someone,

someone throw me a fucking bone out here. It wasn't a turn of a century. I think, yeah. I was trying to get to the point where the whole show is you just argue with yourself, for you the whole show.

Dude, it'd be so easy. It'd be so easy to do that. Just throw two things out of him and he's like, well, it's this thing and then it's this thing, actually. Yeah,

I'm a big fan of your coward, and he talks by himself for three hours. And I think for Frankie, I think it takes a special brain to do it. And I think you could do it. I think you could have a radio show by yourself where you just talk to yourself for three hours. You're like, what are we talking about here? What's going on?

You'll be the only like solo hosted show that's also just like first take where there's like two guys just battling with each other. It's just one guy on the show. I genuinely think you brought up Call on Coward and I know Mike Francesa, who I was less familiar with before I got involved with Barstool, but Coward was a lot of a national guy that I would listen to when I was much younger. And people kind of shit on them as dinosaurs or whatever. But that's a real skill. Hell yeah.

Oh yeah. They do it for three or four hours. And you listen to it and it's entertaining. Like it's it's not that you listen to it and you're like, this sucks. There's a reason that dude is a national radio host. It's really interesting that that is just such a hard thing to do. Francesa is must listen. Like he, when he, his shows are fantastic.

He doesn't even know what he's talking about. Coward wasn't national, was he or was I, am I wrong about that? Well, no, it was, yeah, it was WFAN. So you could get it on national. No, he wasn't national though. Okay. I didn't want to. New York.

Yeah, Coward is syndicated. Coward is a verbal gymnast. He's like, and that's the one that really gets me is the way, the different ways he moves his voice around is really. The thing that always got me with Coward was the way he used pauses. I always thought that was so interesting. And the reason was, was to get people to tune back in. because you think about it, you're listening to a radio show in your car or whatever.

And then if the guy goes silent for just long enough, you'll recheck in and be like, is my radio? And then they'll start talking again. And they get your attention again. He was the best at that. He's just the best there is. His analogies. We start doing that. His analogies are incredible.

He's talking about how Jordan is a Ferrari, whereas LeBron is a Tesla because he's newer and more efficient. I mean, the guy's the greatest there is. I could go on this. like this guy. I love calling coward. I love calling coward. Shopify makes it simple to sell to anyone from anywhere, whether you're selling warmups or wall hangers. It's time to start selling with Shopify and join the platform simplifying commerce for millions of businesses worldwide. We do a little bit of a trip down memory lane on this very show talking about how we built our business and our entire brand. Building a business is just fun. It's fulfilling. It's a very, very, very cool thing to do.

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Is he going to play? The course is awesome. I think he's going to play. Let's talk about the health of this guy. I think he's buzzing around in the car. How about him just, I mean, Riggs, we missed, we missed your, your reaction on this, him just casually dropping that he's shooting 63s and 64s back home and medalist.

I love it. I love it. He ain't dropping that. There's nothing that man does when it comes to golf and talking to golf media that isn't really calculated. So him saying that stuff out there, putting it out into the world for everybody to know, that's very purposeful. And I took note of that.

I thought that was when he said that, I was like, okay, this guy's, he wants us to know he's not fucking done. Hey, he's just got to figure out the walking. I think he's going to play so well. I got a feeling he's going to play so well in the entire time. The entire internet is going to be like, just get this man a golf cart. Just get this man a golf cart. And he's going to look in the eye just like you looked in my eyes, dead in my eyes in the Bahamas.

When I asked him, would you take a golf cart? He looked to my eyes and he said, I would never do that. So. God. That was when you were, yeah, you got that question off this time. That was huge. I got that question off and he just, there was no two ways about it. He's never going to do it.

I think he'd rather not play. Would the guys on this podcast think differently? podcast think differently about him if he took a cart and won or was competing. Like how would you guys feel about him taking a cart? I would I would I would die on that sword and argue for him for the rest of my life. I would say that had he won with the leg that they should give him two because they should give him two champions just because he's winning with a broken leg. I mean, the guy legitimately can not even walk.

You're forcing a guy who can't compete physically to. to play the way everyone else is playing on a healthy leg. And however, it got to that situation is not the point, Pat Perez's wife. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the fact that this guy is still out there with a PJ tour card trying to get this thing done and that he should be able to have whatever it takes to get that ball in the hole. That's my argument.

It's a good one. Do you think after, let's say, Tiger takes a cart and wins the masters? and it's a huge deal and it's a beautiful thing. Do you think there would be any pros who in their press conference would be like, well, he won the car. Throw a little shot across the bow. For sure. Yeah.

Phil Nicholson would say something. I actually go the other way on this one. I think there's something almost like noble and romantic and sort of tragic about him just refusing to do this thing that he could very much do because that's out of principle. And he feels so strongly about the. integrity of competition that he will not take a shortcut even though he knows it is probably the only roadblock between him and challenging to break the PGA tour record or to start his chase of Jack Nicklis's major championship.

I just think there's asterisk everywhere. Like a Jack won against like not as better athletes and they played in smaller fields and the courses were shorter and easier. Like there's always ways to compare different errors. Like if he just won a couple in a cart, I don't know. I don't see that being any different. It doesn't make me go through Sam's needs bullshit. Sam Sneed won against like a woman.

It was like a woman's college event that he like showed up to in one. What? Don't make me. It was crazy. It was crazy. It was like, come on. At the end of the day, are we really going to compare all these guys as if they're equals?

Like they play in different times. Different things happen. Different things are allowed. I mean, the clubs are getting different. Everything's just different. So you can't say like he had this and this guy didn't have this. There's a little,

million things that he had. The argument against that is the one constant almost is that people were walking the whole time. Yeah, but like tiger has to walk longer distances. Courses are longer. Yeah, but the other guys he's playing against, you know, it's a level playing field on that. He's playing, yes, it's not a level comparison. What if John Day would have won these recent years when he's taking his cart?

Like, would anyone be fucking going crazy about it? Or it's just because he's John Dill and he's drinking Diet Coke? I think it would be a bad look for golf in general. It'll be like this fat-watered one in a cart. Three of Sam Sneed's wins were only 36 holes. One tournament. was only 18 holes. So Tiger can walk for 18 holes and then takes a cart.

That's fair. Sneed won the Palm Beach round Robin five times. What does that mean? It was like the group stage of the World Cup. He just, the 36th old tournament, the 1946 World Championship at golf, which is one of his wins,

had four players in it. Come on. Four. Okay. Yeah, if you counted the hero, If you counted the hero, Tiger would already have broken his record because Tiger won the hero like five times. Sam Sneed's got six wins against fields of 15 players or fewer. In the 1950, Crosby Proab, instead of a playoff, four players just were tied and given the win.

Oh, my God. What are we doing? That's actually worse than I remember. Oh, it's bad. But Tiger was can't take a cart against Scotty Sheffler and Colomor Cowan. these guys. It's like, come on. You're arguing against Tiger. Tiger, he can do this. I know. I'm just, I'm

well within his rights to put it in a request. I'm ready. Like, I'm already, I'm fighting off Big Cat and Dave and them saying like, how can you call us a win? It's like, well, there's been, there's been all these weird things in the history of golf where guys have been given wins when they, you know, now that they don't do those things.

Sure, Mr. Sneed's a great guy. I've heard nothing but positive things. Was a great guy. But, and we're not, I'm sure, if they wanted to credit me with these fucking bullshit wins, I would probably take them. So it's not his fault. Is there anything we can take away from Jack or he won him all legit? I think he was pretty legit.

Pretty legit. He was legit. That guy is pretty legit. But we're going to be talking about legitimacy of wins here. I mean, I think it's just important to go through some of these Sam Sneed Ws. Yeah, I don't think he'll ever do it. But I think that, like, as a fan, I think it's bullshit to be like, oh, it's like another notch on his competitive belt. Fuck that, dude.

I want to see this guy holding the propeas. not it's just like I feel like looking back in 30 years it's just going to be something that people look up and look at and they're like you know what that's an honorable man that's a guy who felt so strongly about the integrity of competition that he was not willing to take a single shortcut can't believe she's tied at 82 it's like he didn't just peel off one more right I thought he's going to do it there was that period of time for the end of 2019 where I legitimately when we watched him you guys were there in Australia you guys were causing a racket in my media center and I remember

he was the greatest played on Earth for like that three months If he didn't go flying off that cliff He was gonna win 15 more tournaments He was unbelievable I mean can we talk about how good he was in Australia You guys remember that?

Oh yeah he was so sick In the whole thing Oh by far dude By far Every shot he was hitting that car accident That's yeah that's a real shame With that it's insane If you think about how insane that is

Yeah On the list of believable things And not believable things I know. I'm just saying, like, we already got through the comeback, and he was back to where we were grinding and fighting tooth and nail for him to get to. He was there. He was the top of the game again. Won the Masters was dominating the fucking President's Cup. He was flying, flying. Be it like, like, like, I was always saying, I need another reign of Tiger Woods. Like, I felt it goes too young. And we were about to get it. I felt like we were about to get it. He almost won the open. We did get it. We did get it. He won the Masters. I know. I mean, should have won the open, too. And he finished second in the PG8.

Remember when we were at the fucking Ainsworth? We thought he was going to win the open championship. Oh, yeah. And then Kisner almost wanted it. Wedge on the 10th hole out of that bunker to the front of the green. We were like, it's hope he's going to win his tournament. And then Francesco Molonari of all people.

Spat down our throat. Not in the way I like it. But I don't know. If he wins there, I don't know that he ends up winning the Masters. And him winning the Masters, I think, was far cooler. Like him coming up 18.

Come on. Are you, and the hug with Charlie in the waterworks all time? No, not saying a fucking word for like five minutes. That was incredible

when he did that. Yeah, I was the best sports moments about the islanders had just beaten the penguins at the same time in the playoffs. We had two screens going and I'm like looking right and left being like,

what's happening right now? Is this real? Game of Thrones return? Game of Thrones. Was that nice? That nice? that night. Yes.

Dude, that was a crazy day. Remember, we got really lucky because they moved the tea times up because it was raining. Like crazy, the thunderstorms were coming.

So they, for the first time in history at the Masters, they teed off super early and it gave us, selfishly, enough time to celebrate, record the podcast and then get home and watch the finale.

And it helped Tiger, didn't it? Tiger says like that helped him a lot. Yeah, because he was able to be in the final group with Fienau and Moinari. So he was able to like keep his fucking vision right on him and stand.

and stand basically in front of their golf balls in their T&O. Yeah, I mean, we look back at that picture at 12, that those five minutes ruined Francesco Molinari's career. I remember I was working in Sports Illustrated at the time, and we had like a group chat. And do you guys remember the Sports Illustrated cover from any one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember when they put,

they put that and they were like, we're going no words for only the third time in our history. And the other two were like Mickey Mantle died and the miracle in ICE. And that was a moment. Yeah, that was great. It was a cover without words. I think there's only been three. I know one of them was Mickey Mantle.

died and I think the other one is the miracle on ice. And it was one of those moments where you're sitting there. You're like, yeah, this is actually, we're not being prisoners in the moment. This moment is that special. And then like two months later, the St. Louis Blues won the Stanley Cup. Are you fucking, what a year, 2019 was. We were on Fuego. We were flying as a society.

We went to Australia. We went to Australia. We went to a pebble. Absolutely dusted Jeff Shagher put him in a home. Like, what a year? that was and then fuck and then Kobe died and then COVID and everything was just way worse for a I hope our listeners realized just like how insane this ride has been like I feel like there's a lot of new golf brands popping up and everyone's like you got to keep with the times it's like go back

and look at our fucking history of what we 2019 was an insane year we went to australia really started like blowing up for you guys well yes because tiger won the masters and then we met him at then we met him at pebble beach and it was like the craziest shit of all time. I think we're getting nice. Sorry, I'm getting more ice water. I'm very hung up. What do you guys mean you met him at Pebble?

Like what was that? We went to the U.S. Open and he was putting. And I remember we had a radio station for Varsal Radio. We had a set up behind 18. Was it Pebble or was this a Bethpage when the whole thing went down? This is Pebble. Okay. Definitely pebble.

Yeah. But we also, Beth Page was, Bethpage was maybe a. like a bigger week for us. Frankie was on the driving range. Getting lessons on Wednesday night from Bryson to Shambo on the driving range at a major championship because Bryson was trying to get him to stop skull fucking his wedges. And people from the crowd were heckling. And Bryson was telling Frankie,

don't listen to them. Stay focused. Here's what I need you to do in a fucking video that we put out during a major championship. I had to run to the parking lot and just. pull a lefty wedge out of someone's car. I don't even remember how I got it. Wasn't it like Alex Beaches like caddy or something like that? I think it was. I think someone was like I got a lefty club in my in my car like let's go get it and we fucking sprinted. And then that was also when we did we roasted the players walking in. Kiz showed up with his um, his, um, his wear hat. We talked about

justine Reed just walking across the putting green in front of everyone, which was amazing. Right. Yeah, those are two good ones. Beth page work. Frank, it could beat up fits. Also that was that whole thing right yeah that was that video dude that was also for us you're right frankie that was the first week that we convinced barcel sports like send our whole crew to a golf tournament for a whole week we stayed in like hotels on long island we had jake bass was out there was brenn jones with us yet at that point no no jones you got hired during the pandemic nick balbo came to borelli he yeah like yes and we convinced barscel like send us we're not going to be in the office we're not going to be in the office the whole week we're going to be at a golf tournament.

They were like, all right, we'll see if you guys can get anything. And every day we put out banger after banger is insane. And just had the biggest week ever. We were like, holy shit, we were credentialed media at a major championship. And it actually worked. That was like, that was insanity. We were the first bad boys to get credentialed at a media event and shake things up like the world had never seen before. And I'll stand by that statement for the rest of my life.

There's no, I have a true statement. It's just a truth. Like golf media had no idea what was hitting them when we showed up to that driving range at Beth Page. They put my name. No. Because it was the first time that workers at an event were starting to like kind of get a little

loose with like allowing us to do things. They put my name up on the on the top tracer scoreboard when Bryson was teaching me. And everyone's watching all of my bladed wedges go next to like, I mean, Kadeki Matsuyama was up there. It was like crazy, all the names that were up there. So yeah, it was fucking nuts that that actually happened in real life. Today's episode brought to you by our friends over at Woop, the official fitness wearable of the PGA tour.

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whole looks like. It was a crazy view. And I'm like, are we allowed to be here right now? It's insane. That was an electric gas tournament too because he was collapsing and the New York fans were loving it and they were chanting DJ's name. Yep. And that was in Frankie's backyard. Like Frankie's fucking home course basically.

Oh yeah. Steve said Jake Bass. That's right. Love y'all's stuff. That was when Speed, love y'all's stuff. That's where that came from. We saw him on the putting together because I love y'all's stuff. It's like, holy shit. What's happening this week? into Harold Varner on the way out. He was double fist and bud lights. Like it was quite a time. Oh yeah. There's a video of me. So my buddy, my buddy, we call him the Guido Torpedo. He's one of my best friends. He is, uh, he was a state trooper. Um, and he was assigned

to Tiger Woods that week. So he was Tiger's personal police officer. So, so, so Guido torpedo was sending me text being like, everyone thinks Tiger's getting here at seven and he's actually getting here at 530. If you guys want to be in this side of the parking lot. And then he'd be like, he's heading over to the driving range and we would literally get to the driving range. And there's a video of me and the Guido Torpedo laughing behind Tiger. We're on golf channel. We're just standing there and you see me. Tiger hits a shot and I lick my lips.

I literally watch the ball go up. I go and I just smack them. It was a crazy week. It was a fucking crazy week. That was his first tournament after the Masters. Remember he didn't play for like a month because he just let the whole thing sink in. And so when he showed up, it was like, is this guy just going to run. Jake just remember when I sold that kid's pen?

Oh my God. that's like a story that is hard to tell, honestly. Unless you were there, that is one of the funniest things. Danny, the Guido Torpedo obviously worked for Tiger the whole entire week, and he had this plan. He had a professional,

he found a shot on Getty images of him standing right next to Tiger Woods, like legit on the T-box. And he's like wearing his fucking big cap and tiger's looking like tiger. And he printed it out in black and white. And he's like, I want him to sign this in a marker. Like, I want to bring it to him.

I have to walk him to his car after the tournament, and I want to bring it to him. So Anthony, who's been, he was helping me the whole entire week was like, hey, can you get me a marker? He's texting me. He's like, I'm walking to this guy's car and can you find me a marker? And we were on the putting green. And I'm looking around. I'm like, where the fuck am I going to get a marker? So we go over to like the little fan section where all the little kids are getting.

Kids are autographs, yeah. Kids are getting autographs from Victor Hovlin and Jordan Speath. And I go, does anyone have a marker on here? And this kid gives me his marker. And I'm like, thank you, man. I'll give this right back. So I go, I run and give Anthony this marker. He goes to Tiger's thing, gets everything signed insane, by the way.

You have to see this guy's stuff. He's got like six different things to Anthony assigned or whatever. An hour goes by and the Guido torpedo has left. Like he never brought the pen back. He took the pen, right? He stole that kid's pen. So now we're still standing on this putting green kind of waiting for things to happen. We're waiting for speed to come over.

And the kid just, very faithful. You got that pen back? I'm waiting for the guy. He yelled, he screamed, Am I ever going to get my marker back? Hey, Jake, if we don't put this out, I want my own personal copy of the marker saga because this is fucking ridiculous.

Am I ever gonna get my thing back? I don't know, man. At this point, there is no way to know. You ever get your goddamn marker back. So I'm like, I'm ignoring him now. I'm ignoring the kid. I'm like, I have my back to him. I said, oh, my God.

How old are we talking? Seven, six. So I'm like, guys, he won't fucking drop this thing. And it's just him now. It's just him. Because this was like, this was Friday. Tiger missed that cut. He missed the cut.

Yeah. So this was Friday. Me and Trim were trying to like distance ourselves. Oh, yeah. Friday night. Bring your fucking pen saga over the last. Friday night, Tiger just missed the cut. It's like, it's about to get dark.

And this kid's out there just grinding trying to get fucking autographs. And I stole his only marker. I'm telling you he was the only one out there. So no one else would give him a marker. So another player walks by and he goes, Can I get that marker back? There's a guy walking right here. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, I don't have a fucking market for this kid.

So I mean, this went on so much that we ended up walking away and he's screaming to the top of where we walk across one of those player. We were going up the player bridges. And he's and he's screaming to us. You can just shock and give me my pen ever like ever. He's like crying. Like look at the dad. He stole it. He stole the pen.

I don't know. And the dad. Dad's looking at me like, I don't know. You don't have a pen anymore, dude. Oh, God. Turns out I never gave him the pen. Oh, and the finale of this story is, earlier in that day, Justin Thomas was paired up with Tiger Woods and saw me standing

there looking at Tiger. He goes into Tiger Woods's bag, takes one of the balls out and tosses it at me. And I wasn't even paying attention. It hits me in the foot. And he goes, Frankie, look down. And we had never had any interaction with J.T. at this point. Bridgestone with the tiger on it. Brickstone Tiger and I'm like holy shit out of his bag it was still warm I could feel it was like

you knew Tiger it touched this thing it smelled like it's just smelled like greatness like everything about it was warm moist that he knew he sweat on it so I'm holding this thing turns out at the end of the night I had to fucking go over to this little kid and give him that ball and I was like listen I lost your fucking marker that's nice that's nice I know that I know that you fucking didn't get any autographs from Alex Beach but here's Tiger Woods is golf ball from his bag that he used today. It was such an internal dilemma and we were all sitting there and this kid again is like it's like the Titanic's going down and he's screaming as he's getting dragged under like,

where's my pet? And we're like, Frankie's like, dude, I got nothing. And then we're like, dude, you know what you do have. And you're like the tiger golf ball. And we're like, yep. And you for like 10 minutes, you're like, fuck, I don't. I really don't know if I can do that. And eventually you're like, I'm going to give him the golf ball.

And it was. Dude, I get put in these situations all the time. Remember when we were in New Orleans? In New Orleans, I'm playing in that three whole celebrity shootout with Trent. And I had just hit the ball like right next to the hole with fucking boomer and all these guys were going crazy. It was like the craziest fucking athletic achievement I've ever had in my life. And this little kid goes, can I have your hat? And I'm just like, fuck.

It's on hold like two. I'm like, I don't want to give him my hat. And the whole crowd, dude, there was like a thousand people following us. The whole crowd's like, give him the hat. I was just like, fuck, I don't want to give this. Give him my hat. Like I just walked around with no hat on. And I'd like ask them for like a like a St. Jude Children's Hospital hat that didn't fit me.

And I look ridiculous in all the photos. It's just like, come on, man. You just got to give the kids a fucking piece of flair, I guess. It's just like, that's the part of the job. I just wasn't prepared for any of that. Did you ever get another tiger ball? I got to think you know what I think Joey had heard that story and tossed me one remember that yeah I think so a couple days later or something a couple days later so where the boss man nickname

came from and I'm having trouble remembering who came up with it I know it was it was Robbie Mac and it was after around and we were hanging with him shooting the shit he's telling stories and we're in heaven because we're so giddy over the whole deal and then Tiger came walking around the corner and he just abruptly Robbie back without saying a word to like Tiger Man. He just ended his conversation with us and just goes, oh, there's the boss man. I got to go.

And we after that took the nickname, the boss man. That's pretty awesome. It's pretty epic. So good week. It was a good week. So good. Rob,

Rob kind of walks around with those with a couple of those balls in his pocket. It's a pretty cool thing to be able to give out to people. For sure. True. Like he'll see like a five-year-old, you know, in the crowd. And he'll just kind of go over there and hand him a ball. and just make the guys weak. You know, and it's crazy that like the shock factor was obviously there at that time.

It was 2019. So it's like it felt different. It was a first time doing it. But like we're still getting these moments as it goes on. Like I mean, this year at the US Open, Tulsa was insane. Trent and I went to in Boston what had a fucking full blown conversation with Rory McRae on the TV on the driving range for the first time like really ever that he acknowledged us during an event.

And we like congratulated him on. winning the Canadian Open. It was insane. We're like, what's actually happening? That video did like a million views. We were like, this is fucking Rory right now. Dude, six months ago, seven months ago, we walked the fairway. Oh my God. Yeah. That was seven months ago. That feels like seven years ago. That was seven months ago. Dude, we walked the fairway with Tiger Woods at the PGA championship. Briggs hit him on the fucking arm and they made it, he made a joke with him. We don't walk with them for an hour. I have a funny trip. I basically fell in the creek. when we were walking around with Tiger Woods.

I did. That's actually all things considered, that was the craziest thing that's ever happened to us. And the fact that only happened six months ago just shows like, this fucking ship is still rising. It's like it's fucking insane. So that was on a Monday, I believe,

because I remember I got there on Monday night and my, our slack was blowing up because your guys stuff was going crazy. And they were like, Dan, like why aren't you there? And I'm like, what? Like,

do you think that, that I'm going to, like me, I'm going to walk with him and then someone's going to video it. and then there's going to be five million people that what like what what what I'm just remember that that was such a big thing and went so crazy that they were like dad do something I'm like well well we had also heard that like some very real like TV entities were mad that that happened because they were like I thought we like we want to get our time of tiger why are

these three guys getting time of tiger when in reality it was just organic because Frankie has you know established a relationship with joie la Cava and rangers. Islanders, they play golf together. We've all played golf together. And then when we were heading to the 17th T or whatever it was with a fair way, Joey was like, come on and join us. Like, that's what people don't get sometimes is that like all these big, I mean, Barstow's big now, but all these other media companies, they want their time because maybe they've paid for it or they've, you know, they've been promised this or that from people who aren't even Tiger's real inner circle. And then there's guys like us come around where we've just sort of whatever way worked our way into. it, you know, been friendly, talk to the guys around him where they're just like, yeah, come walk the fairway. We know that you're normal guys.

So come on in the fairway and we'll walk a couple holes and it'll be great. That to me is ultimately been the difference with what we've done and then what these other big media companies try to do. Right. That's absolutely right. Yeah. And I know that there's always whispers of like, oh, that must be part of their deal with Taylor May or something's like, no, they just like us.

And I will say, like, we publicly suck Tiger's dick all the time. So he better like us because we're out there. I mean, we're, you know, so if he's going to have an opinion on it, it's like we basically have been North Korean media for him at times. We need to be.

So, so yeah, obviously there's one guy that might be like, okay, these guys usually do me a couple favors or whatever, cover me favorably. That's our number one guy. So it's still the most surreal thing in the world that we got to walk the

very way with him and that was not that long ago. That feels like, no way, Jake Bass. Jake Bass has like all this unreleased footage of Marker Gate that we never really put out. So he's going to put it, if you're listening to this, go to YouTube. He's going to put this into the YouTube version of the podcast. And you can watch exactly what we were just describing.

It's as it's as dramatic and anxiety filled as you can imagine. I remember that too because that's why I said before you told the story. The story was actually great. And I had said before you started like it's hard to tell you weren't there. And I remember we had that same discussion when we were putting the video together because there weren't like enough things. but now that people know the context of the whole thing, it's an insanely funny situation. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's you. It's just perfect that it's, that it's you in this dilemma the whole time. So I think this whole conversation started because we're talking, Tiger Woods is playing in a match on Saturday night. Great match. Big names, Rory, Spee, J&T, Tiger, Under the Lights.

These are fun. I know people like to shit on them, which is kind of like when people shit on our merch. It's like, you don't have to watch this. So if you're shooting on it, you're an idiot. Like, it just doesn't, just don't turn on your stream or on your TV. I love these.

I think they're great. They're different. You get some personality. You get to watch Tiger Woods hit golf shots. This is basically the same format or, you know, whatever, one of these matches they did at Paines Valley. And we got some great clips out of that. That was the Rory and JT. Domino's conversation.

Remember that conversation? Oh, yeah. Really good. It's so good. It's just so good. He's right. He is right. It's fucking delicious.

So you get so much good stuff from these. And, you know, no, it's not Tiger trying to win the Masters and ending Francesco Moinar's career. You're not going to get something like that. But you're going to get some entertainment. Tigers will play golf. We haven't seen it's golf games since the old course at Santers. So, so yeah, I'm excited.

I believe I was a contributor. Maybe the whole show was about all put it on me for sure that like when the Brooks Bryson thing happened, people were down on it because it had kind of fizzled. It was, you were like, it's not. If it had happened six months or 12 months before it's happening, then it would have been the hottest thing in the streets. Obviously, we had the connection where Dave and Brooks were supposed to play, so we weren't thrilled about that. But with these four guys, like, they're going to be interesting no matter what. Certainly with Tiger and the situation that he's in now, like, how is he going to look?

He didn't play when he was supposed to play. Now he's going to play. He's going to have a car. Like, that makes this super interesting and the personalities that are involved are just larger than life. Yeah, I'm really excited. Did you guys watch the hero shot thing from this last week? I think we talked about this a little bit where he was commenting on Max. That was cool.

That was really cool. And hearing Tiger talk about other people's swings, I think is really cool. Got me really excited for the golf league. I was talking with this on the podcast earlier. Yeah, these guys are just like four really, really good personalities. And guys are starting to give Tiger shit in ways that, like, I don't know if they used to. Did you notice Tommy Fleetwood? So we were talking about how Tiger and Rings, I don't know if you heard this part,

but they didn't show this on the video, but Tiger hit six wedges and not one of them found in dry land. It was actually like kind of dark and kind of sad in the conference. in the competition he got up there. I don't want to talk about that. And Tommy Fleetwood's like, you ever played golf before, Tiger? I was like, wow.

That was big from Tommy Ladd. I wasn't expecting that. I like that. I think J.T. is like, and J.T. obviously, he's close enough to Tiger where he feels like he could give him crap for anything.

So I think we're going to hear some good, some funny stuff on Saturday. All these guys seem closer than ever now, right? Especially with the Rory Tiger partnership, the live stuff going crazy. They were all, they had this meeting in the Bahamas on at four, because I was supposed to interview.

I was supposed to do an interview at 4 o'clock on Tuesday, and I got a text being like, hey, we have another one of these, like, you know, meetings. Right. And so they watched the end of the soccer game and then they had this meeting where they just discussed the future of the PJ tour. And they swore themselves secrecy.

And I couldn't get a freaking word out of anybody. I went to the, I went to all my guys. And they said, sorry, Dan. Not this one. I do think that it will make for a better product. Maybe not in like a super noticeable way. But just having guys who are closer is going to be a better rapport between the four of them 100%.

Yeah. They're going to get a lot of Ricky Fowlers where they can graduate their buddy on the green afterwards, a bunch of that. Yeah. So my friend Jeremy, I'm actually going to name one of them this time. My friend Jeremy finally,

a couple weeks ago, committed. He bought a pair of G4s. He'd been wearing other stuff forever. He bought a pair of G4s. He wore them this week for the first time on our little golf trip. He said about halfway through the round, he goes, all right,

I got to be honest. I heard you guys hyping them up. You got the MG4s, MG4 pluses, which are the style that we always call the most comfortable shoe on planet Earth. He goes, I know you guys have been hyping them up. I wasn't expecting to be as impressed as I am. And he goes, these are the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn and it's not even close. They make a real difference. A real difference.

They make every other golf shoe look or feel unwearable. Did Jeremy speak that in class? What? Jeremy spoke. I don't know that reference. That's not good. Trent, what is it?

I didn't know. I don't know that either. Pearl jam? Jeremy. Wait, say again? Pearl jam? I'm not a big cold jam. Jeremy Sproker.

Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I would be curious what percentage of the country would get that off the dome. I guess I'm not a big pearl jam guy. So I apologize. G4 has teed up some new limited edition releases just in time for me to add them to my wish list for the holidays. I kind of nailed that, by the way.

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Then we've got this weekend is the QBE used to be the shark shootout. Is that right? It's the anti-shark shootout. It's just, yeah, not right. Any other fish shootout. It was basically what they're calling it now. So we got kids and Max Homa are together.

We got a boost in the Barstville sports book. Plus 750, I think it is, that those two guys win the whole thing. Max Homa's obviously having an unbelievable year. Kids is a phenomenal putter. So them in this format, it's just a scramble. I think there's, is it just a scramble? I get this one, because I know with Sezuric, they do one day alternate shot. Right.

And one day, that's ball. I don't know if this is just a scramble. We did a little alternate shot in the afternoons for the, for the emergency nine rounds this last week when my buddies were in town. And I know we did it at Big Cedar Lodge. I think we did it one round. But alternate shot is way underrated. We need to, we as a society. of golf people that like golf,

we need to start playing alternate shot more. It's totally agree. And I think it was great at the Barstow Classic Championship and we've got videos coming out in the future where we did an alternate shot match. It's just super fun for the people involved. And I think it's going to be really entertaining for people that watch.

It's just different. It's really fun. And I agree. I think we should incorporate in our stuff way more. Yeah. Yeah, the beginning of ours, I think Frankie was ready to kill. me, which is what's awesome about ultimate shot. It's like it just puts, it just flips it. It's so

pressure packed. I don't think I've ever hit better drives in my life. And it's just like we weren't. Nothing was really happening. It's just like we kept losing holes. I'm like, man, I don't know how much more are you going to get out of me today. One point, Frankie, I found out that Frankie turned to the camera. I was like, if he doesn't hit the greener regulation here, I'm going to quit. I'm, I'm quitting. You get that type of dynamic that you just never get with regular. you know, stroke play or whatever you're doing. I guess if you're going on like a trip, it's hard to say you're not going to play your own ball.

I know a lot of people are going to feel that way. But if you're just, if you get with your group of buddies that you play golf with all the time, you're at your local public course or you're at your local country club, it's insane to not include alternate shot. Like once a week I'm talking. Like that's how much fun it is. Like get your groups together,

get your standings ready, see who the best pairings are. And let's just, let's breeze through this round of golf because it's fast. It's really, really fast. You're playing half fast. That's the key, though, I think, is that it can't be the main event, right? If you're playing once a week, you're not going to want to play alternate shot.

But if you're on a trip or if you play with your group all the time, it's absolutely worth throwing in the rotation. It's good for the camaraderie and the team chem, too, because you roll up to the tea and you don't even have a club. You're just all in on basically cat. Just typing your boy up. Yeah. It's great. But yeah, other than that, I don't have much else. I think we're pretty much done here.

I talked about, I talked about yesterday in the podcast that, I had a rattling going on in the top, like above my bed. So we have this whole situation above our, our room. It's like all the air conditioning and the heating units and the connoissee pumps and all this bullshit that's going on in the attic. And around like 11 or 12 o'clock every night, it sounds like a little mini man is just hitting this fucking pipe with a hammer. Never really heard anything like it.

So I think it's the gas. So I had the gas guy come and the gas guy said everything from outside the house is perfect. They were attached the new gas line. They did the whole thing. So I'm like, he goes, once the pipes go into the house, we can no longer help you. Because obviously you can maneuver pipes however you want once you're doing like reconstructions. And that's not on the gas companies watch. You know what I mean? It's not their jurisdiction. It's not their jurisdiction. Come into the house and see what you've done. And if you've messed anything up. That's not their problem. So I'm hearing this noise and no one knows what it is. Like, you know, we've got family members that

are HVAC people. They're like, it can't be the fucking heating and all this system. I don't. understand. It's like, whatever. They're giving me all these explanations. You're pulling in cool air from the outside and it's not fucking going up a chimney. It's going outside. It makes me want to fucking puke. All I know is, as a simple man, I'm hearing a noise, right? And I keep telling people, you guys can give me all the fucking words you want. I'm still hearing that noise. So, so I said, what if I stake this thing out? Because every time someone's come over, I've bumped up the heat all the way and then we stand there and we like, we sip on water and we talk. And we're like when the fuck is this thing going to make a noise? It never does. So much to the fact that I think

the place is haunted because every time someone goes in the attic to check it or I pump up the heat, nothing makes a noise. No other person other than me has heard this noise yet. So I'm either going insane. It's haunted or we're just bad luck. So last night, I staked this thing out. I went upstairs in the attic. I got a pillow. I put it under my ass. I brought my phone upstairs and I sat there. 20 minutes. Freezing up there, by the way. You know, an attic's fucking cold. It's just wood.

You can, like, hear the outside. 20 minutes go by. 40 minutes go by. 40 minutes is a long time to be sitting in an attic. That is a long time to be sitting in a dark attic. An hour and 20 minutes goes by. And now I'm getting to the point where I'm saying, I've stood up here for an hour and 20 minutes.

If I go downstairs and I don't hear this noise and then I hear it tonight, I'm going to fucking light this place on fire. It's gotten so long that I have to stay up here all night. I should have just quit at 20. You know what I mean? 20 minutes here and there. You go up there. An hour and 20 minutes.

Dude, I tell you guys, I shit you not. I stood up there for two hours. I went through all the systems. It's on a schedule. So I knew it like 1135. The heat was going to kick back on and then it was going to kick off because we like a cold at night. So I knew like, all right, I got to just get past 1135. I've already been up here an hour and 30 minutes, but I got to get to 1135.

I have to because I know 1135 comes nothing. This thing's not even turning on because it's just fucking just sitting there. I'm staring at it. Like I'm trying to will this thing to make this noise. I'm not, this sounds like a made-up Frankie story. I go downstairs after an hour, like about two hours.

It was like an hour and 50 minutes. I go downstairs. I close up the fucking ladder. I close up the attic. I go in. I take my contacts out. I brush my teeth. I wash my hands.

I lay down. I turn on Wednesday from Netflix. I'm sitting there watching Netflix. 10 minutes into the show. All of a sudden I heard, like the fucking man is upstairs. Hitting my fucking pipes. I said,

no way. I'm screaming. now. I'm screaming in the house at 1 o'clock in the morning and be like, are you fucking kidding me? I run over there, try and get a video of it, it stops. I swear this place is haunted. I swear it's haunted. I sat there for

two fucking hours. I didn't hear a word. What were you doing? Just death scrolling Twitter? Oh, I was just, yeah, on Twitter, searching all the hubs you could possibly find, doing whatever I was, I mean, it was freezing up there. I know what you were doing. But wait. I was freezing. Did you have your phone? Were you videoing it up there? Like through the

two hours? No, you know, I had You don't want to be video on what he was doing. I had my, no, you didn't. I had my phone open, but like, if you heard the noise, it goes on for five or six seconds. So I knew I'd have enough time to open up the thing. And then at least I'd see, like, I got to see which pipe it's coming from. It's coming from something. Then I realized, like, maybe you just can't hear it from the attic.

You can only hear it from, like, within the walls. Like, now I was driving myself insane. Dude, put your arm. Maybe it's not in the attic. Maybe the noise is not in the attic, even though it has to be. Put your Simply Safe camera up there. I thought about that also, but Simply Safe is motion censored. So I don't know.

Then if that goes off, then you've got a real problem. Then I have a real problem. Dude, my Simply Safe goes off in my backyard all the time. Then I'll check it and there's no one there. And I'm like, well, that's just unfortunate. You know what I mean? That used to happen. We had the security lights in our backyard growing up where the lights will come on if it senses motion.

And the light would come on. And I'd stick my head out there. And I'd be like, well, that's just something I'm going to have to deal with for the next eight hours. Until that sun comes up, I got to deal with that. Well, we've got a, we've got like this palm tree thing that I bought for the summer. It's like in a plant. It's in a planter. And it kind of like sway.

And now it's like dead. It's obviously the winter. But it kind of sway. And I think that sets it off from time to time. And I'll just check. It'll be like, you have motion in your backyard. And I'm like, do I though? Because I'm looking and there's nobody there.

So either. And it'll be at night too. It's like, eish. I don't like that. But yeah. So tonight's steakout number two. I will find this noise. Once I get it, I'll show you guys.

We'll plug it into the podcast. Good. Good. All right. We're done here. We'll be back next week per usual. We'll have to respond and react to Tiger Woods playing in the match and the whole deal. Hopefully, kids and Homa win the shootout.

And I hope everybody has a great weekend. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.