Fore Play - Massive Golf Guys, with DeMarcus Ware

Episode Date: April 23, 2020

Super Bowl champ DeMarcus Ware joins the show live from his in-home golf simulator. The 9-time Pro Bowler is now obsessed with GOLF and has some hilarious input from his perspective (90:23). In Headlines, Tiger Woods and Peyton Manning vs Phil Mickelson and Tom Brady is confirmed happening next month and Rory McIlroy says a fan-less Ryder Cup is “not a Ryder Cup.” In From The Gallery, what’s the lowest score you think you’ll ever shoot in your career, and how many golf balls do you typically carry to make sure you won’t run out during a round???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Got him for, I don't know, it's going to turn out to be about 20 minutes. He began the interview in his golf simulator, which was awesome. What a friendly guy, big smile. He's obsessed with golf. But the connections sucked in the golf simulator. It just was awful.

So we eventually convinced him to go to a different room. And then he had a way better connection. So by the time we get the real good audio out of the whole thing, it would probably be about 20 minutes. But it was great. I mean, he's a Super Bowl champ. He talks about the mass that his clubs are. It's like his putter grip, his driver.

How far he hits his driver. And he does it all with just a big smile on his face. So he is the nicest fucking friendliest guy ever. So DeMarcus Ware, huge golf guy. We have him on at the tail end of this show for, like I said, about 20 minutes or so it's going to turn out to be. Frankie's just in a big pickle kick right now. Lean it back.

I'm crushing pickle. I'm crushing pickles right now. I'm crushing pickles. I'm crushing B&G. Kosher Dill Spears. Just kosher dill. They're crunchy. They're delicious.

Now, do you eat pickles like in a lot of your meals? I, you know, I got on this little pickle kick. The other day we had, we made some burgers. We grilled some burgers here. And my mom put out this jar of pickles.

I was like, you know what? like I haven't had a pickle. You know, like it's one of those things you don't think about to eat that often. I was like, I haven't had a pickle in a long time.

I put my hand right in that jar, and now it's mine because of COVID. Like, now it's just my jar. And I, now it's just my, my jar in the fridge. No one can touch it.

And I'm crushing pickles. I mean, I ate five pickles at the table. I don't have a pickle on my, on my burger. I'll have a pickle. I'll have a pickle. Sunday mornings.

I get tuna. I get, like a tuna salad on a sesame bagel. That's your morning? Afternoon. Like a Sunday afternoon. I don't get breakfast. I'll like wait for it.

And it's a nice tuna fish bagel with a nice rock hard crispy pickle. Calm down. And then a macaroni salad on the side. I used to do tuna with tuna fish in a bowl mixed up with cut up pickles, mustard, and hot sauce. It's just a little snack. I'll tell you what, that's awesome. Here's a great snack for anyone. Pickle juice in there.

Tuna fish in a bowl, just straight up tuna fish in a bowl, and then you take some crackers and you dip the crackers in there. It's that crunch plus the tuna. Bro. Bro. That's nice. You don't want to overdo, don't want to overdue tuna, though. But if you do it occasionally, it's delicious.

I went to the grocery store the other day, and I had a moment where I was going by getting all the essentials, you know, and then I went by, like, the sweet, like, snack. heart and I just I did a double take and I saw zebra cakes you guys ever have zebra cake? Oh. And I said, you know, Regs, you're an adult. You're an adult and you're able to now just buy these if you want and eat them. And I've been eating them for like a week.

Oh my God. From like the Bonnie to my Clyde, little Debbie, she is the queen. She is, she makes such good products. Zebra cakes, man. You put them in the, you can put them in the freezer. That's a good move too. Oh, I haven't done that move. Yep.

I go do that as soon as this shows over. But I will say during my grocery store, I had my first mask wearing experience. Oh, boy. Oh. How'd that go? Yeah, it's a little annoying to breathe at first, but then you just get used to it. And in the grocery store, I noticed the minute that you become a mask guy, that you look at everyone that's not a mask person, like they're a total detriment to society. Yeah.

I was going to grow up a store without a mask on. So I can't imagine people who are looking to me like. I was scoffing at the, I was scoffing at the, you know, I was scoffing at the, at the lurches in the grocery store, like, ugh, have you no honor? Like, where you're going to ruin the whole world because there's a global pandemic on and you're just breathing out corona all over everybody without knowing it. Well, I'm in a situation in New York City where you just can't go outside without a mask on. Like, you will, you might get arrested.

I don't know if it's a law yet or not. Rivel up and die. Right, right. And I haven't, I don't have a mask. So I ordered a couple and they haven't got here yet. And I need to go grocery shopping. So now I'm waiting for a mask. to get here so I can go to the grocery store.

It's quite a situation. It's when you do one thing good in the world, how you look at others, like how could you not be doing this already? Yeah. Like the arrogance of rates to put one on for 10 seconds to look around, like the person behind him that hasn't even got to the mask area yet,

he's like, you're an idiot, like get your mask off. Yeah, it's, you can't help it. It's a natural, I was just looking at these people like, what is wrong with you? And they're all, like, you arrogant young person. You're a death missile walking around. What's wrong with it? That's the first time I ever want a mask in my life.

I've been rocking masks like crazy. Just like making deliveries and all that shit. It's just like becoming a lifestyle. It's so weird, man. I go downstairs, I put the gloves on, and then I'll put the mask on and I leave the house. When I do leave the house. I'm like Pirelli's, we have like them all in different stations.

It's crazy, man. It's just a way of life. Well, when things eventually start to open up, whenever that is, masks are going to be a thing going forward for the foreseeable future. even when we get the all clear and everybody's like, all right, we can start to reopen the economy and all that.

People are just going to be like, well, I'm wearing a mask all the time. I saw it because the all clear is going to be different for everybody. Like you see state saying yes, but towns are saying no. So on that level, if it's not like,

you know, obviously in sync, like your neighbors are going to handle it way differently when it quote unquote opens up. Why do you say neighbors like that? Neighbors? You're a neighbor. I don't know.

Did I say it? Was that the only like cyborg, but neighbors. name or by the way what's your favorite in sync what's your favorite in sync song bye bye bye bye bye bye I think it's gotta be me like that one too is that insane I think it's called it's gonna be me is god got put a little more time on you is that in sync God spent a little more time on you maybe yeah that is yeah it is yeah it is it's an emotional right now yeah that is it that is it um Just referring back to DeMarcus Ware for one second.

It was short, but he was a guy who was, we're going to do stuff in the future, no doubt. He was so nice and cool. DeMarcus wears that kind of name where it's like, oh, that superstar football player that, like, you only see on Sunday night football. Like, that's a guy that you don't talk to, like, on a podcast. Like, DeMarcus wears a name that you, sorry, I'm just putting my pickas away, is a name that, like, you just see, like, splattered across ESPN and, like, and newspapers, like, DeMarcus. where it's just an NFL name yeah at like NFL 100 like demarcus where walks down to the field and like waves to the crowd like you don't like talk to him in his simulator at his house during quarantine

he almost you only exclusive we see him on Sunday night football or Monday night football or in the playoffs like he's not even exists yeah he doesn't exist aside from that so to see him like sitting there he's got those cute little dimples um he's got a great smile he's fucking he's a great looking dude man yeah he is ripped to shreds and you Like just a fucking brick shit house. It was so frustrating the connection would work because you could tell he was so excited to enter the conversation from his golf simulator. Yeah. Talk to the golf podcast.

Lert. Lerge. You should have at one point his connection was so bad. And then he just like popped back and he was just swinging in the simulator. Like that's what like he was using the time that we were. It was like he was using the time that we needed to like reestablish a connection to get like maybe another shot in a simulator. It was. Yep. Yeah.

How did his swing look? We didn't get to see it. It was never smooth enough during the simulator. So then we directed him down to like the kitchen. And he came in clear. And I will say it was like he like kind of transformed into a Greek god when he got that really clear connection. It like he went from a standard definition to HD and he just popped.

It was like also. Also it took him like a half an hour to walk to the kitchen. Yeah. Well, when you also said that a simulator is upstairs, I'm just thinking that the house has to be huge. Yeah. Massive. For kitchen.

If you have a golf streamer, it's like tucked away in like the one air of your basement that maybe like your wife like doesn't get to or whatever. But like you've made it work somehow. To just have it upstairs means it's your house is just a mansion. He strikes me as a guy who probably has. Oh my God. Sorry. I don't see Frankie Deep throw that pickle. I mean, he's, did you go down the throat and pull it back out?

Your pickle obsession is almost about you. You want to get fucked by pickle. No, bro. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't go deep. I can't tell you how mad I am about that. because I'm trying to get a screenshot of Frankie eating pickles this whole time. And that would have been the, get it, get it.

All right, I got it. That was the way. He wants to get fucked by a pickle. It's just what it is. I put my tongue on it that time. Wait until you see this fucking picture I got. Yeah, get one too. Get it out there, Trent Daddy.

I get, I'm going to make a bet that I bet Trent screenshots way better than Lurches. No. Maybe. Who knows? It's probably all the same, though. I've got pickle juice falling all over my floor now. All right. We got actual golf chatter to get to.

We have a bunch of really good from the galleries today. We've got Rory with some headlines, some news, some reaction to Rider Cup news, Ryder Cup rumors about fans, no fans. I'm still down here in Pirates. There's the, there's Frank. Sorry, Frank. That's a good picture. Before we get to that, we have an official.

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which ties John Powell, 86 years old and shot a 64 in 2017 to trying to get this into the Guinness World Record book. Boyden Atwood is apparently the guy's name. Oh, man. 89. What, you don't believe it? You think that guy, what do you shoot? That's incredible.

I'd like to know the distance. that is incredible. I'm down with a healthy bit of skepticism, but I like to look at the best in people. You know, congrats to that old bag, but you know what? Congratulations, man.

Congratulations. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical. Don't take anything away from them. I'm not going to take anything away from them. I, you know, it's just,

that's a stunningly low number for an 89-year-old to be able to put up. I'm thinking of like, like you can't make a mistake. You're drilling greens and pins and making birdies at a high, clip. Like you're you're you're constantly with birdie chances and you're constantly driving these

balls to to large distances and your wedges are are money like how is he like what is this guy what is this guy doing? How far is he hit in the golf ball? I'm looking at Boone right now. There's four T's blue, white, golds and reds. Reds are the shortest and they play from 5,096 yards. The tips play from 6,600, you know, almost 6,700 yards. So it's a pretty standard country club golf course. Yeah, I mean. Interesting. He said that, like, the approvers from Gennett or whoever, like,

they got to confirm it. Gett is, like, investigating. They talk to the other people in his group. They have to, like, interview the other people in the group and other people from the club to see how verifiable and legitimate the score is. I'm rooting for him. Authenticate. Authenticate.

Authenticate. authenticate. I was trying to, I didn't hear anything you said after you said confirmers. I was like, I'm thinking of the word. He's trying to think of. Oh, confirmers wasn't right? Like a fucking transformer, but you confirm things. That is. That's crazy. Great story. Great story. Great athletic ability. It's a score I'll never shoot in my life. You can give me, I mean, you'll give me 60 more years to do that and I won't do it. Yeah. No. What do you think your low score in your life is going to be?

I'm going to go ahead and say, that my low score will be an even par 72. I think. I'm fearful my lowest has already happened, and that's even par. I agree with that. Like, I just think there's going to be one day that I'm just like,

I'm just on. And I'm like maybe, I'm like two under through eight. And I finish the front like two under or one under. And the back, I'm just like people are rallying around me. Like, holy shit. And I'm making a big mockery of it.

And I'm going crazy. I just think like maybe I have a put to break par and like I miss it and like all right that's the best I'll ever do is a 72 like ever that's it because the other like the other day like cherry valley or now it's not the other day it was like a month ago at this point but like I shot at 78 and like I made just some stupid mistakes like I swung and missed at one point like I was against a tree and I swung a miss so it's like I think that the more we play and the more we have this podcast and the more I keep rolling these putts on this putting green. Like, I'm actually, I hopefully will one day shoot it.

But there's a chance I just never do that. I think there's a chance I shot my roll around I'll ever shoot too. What was ours? I shot 72 at Fryers had like two years. Absolutely dumbied me. Dude, I couldn't miss. I had three birdies in a row. I think you guys could get below par.

I think you guys are selling yourself short. I mean, certainly that's my goal. Like when I started golf, it was like to break 90, then it was to break 80, then it was just to shoot even par. and if I ever did that, I'd be like happy and I could stop, but that's just not the case. And now it's to shoot under par and like, where my golf game is,

if you see me, if you saw me on the range the other day, Frankie, you'd be like, this guy can't break 100. I know, but I've seen you guys at your left, like when you were in Australia, you were going to shoot under par.

And then you just started, you fell over top of yourself. Yeah, I did. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you should. That was two rounds towards the second half of last year. One was at Mammoth Dufans, and one was at Barnbougal,

the Dune's course. You legitimately should have shot multiple strokes under par, which means something close to the 60s. You were playing lights out. I know, I know. I played with guys that have shot 69 in amateur groups. Like I've played with like a, he's like the assistant pro at the club. He's shot like a 70, 69.

It was no problem. Like it was like I could see you guys just having that kind of day. Like you had the ability. I think your swings there. Like, I think everybody, like, you could just make it. You know, it's just mental mistakes add up so fast. So I'll say this. I've been thinking about this.

My, um, I played, I play with a guy who was like a 15 handicap or something and shot like one, one 10. And I was thinking the whole time, like, how does, Trent, you're way better than this guy. And I was like, how does Trent, this guy's 15 handicap who I know has shot scores like in the high 80s and. 90s. I think Trent, you should be shooting like 90 or 95 consistently. Yeah, no, I think that's right. I read close. I need to be able to play more. I just need to, it's just reps. That's all that it is. I think the tools are definitely there for like a low 90s, mid 90s now, but like I just don't get out enough. Certainly not right now. Here's also the reality situation too. Trent plays a crazy style where like he plays every like all every single

swing. Like you're giving yourselves 11s and 12s on these holes where like, we're like, 15 handicaps, like your average hack that's going out there and shoot 110 is like taking a seven, is taking a seven on a par four that maybe they hit it out of bounds and like they didn't want to hold up the group and like, all right, seven, like, you're taking a, dude, you're taking a 12. Dude, I don't like, in my eyes, that makes the most sense. I know that. I get that they get it for like the handicap. Like you can't score more and you can't have a quadruple bogey.

Like I know how your fucking strokes, you assholes. Like I don't care about some imaginary number that you're going to put into a system. I want to know how many strokes I had that day. I don't give a fuck about that number. I love that about that. I love that about you. I don't love that about other people. No, I hear you because sometimes it's great.

I mean, if you enter a tournament, it's like, what's Trent going to shoot? He, like, knows the number where other people who are like, weekend hacks were just like, oh, what did you get? Like, oh, they gave up. So just give me a bogey. It's like, well, Trent actually played the last three holes. And he just told me at Bethpage that he went 11, 12, 8, 13. I'm basically, yeah.

I'm basically playing it like what's my going to be my tournament score. It's not going to be anything like a handicap number. Yeah, I like that. And you wait until you get the ball in the hole. There's a lot of strokes. Like you shoot 101. Three or four of those were like more than give me putts that you missed. Yeah.

Which is not. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I know. You're going to, I think you're going to get to a point, Trent Derry, where you're like, you're consistently on the edge of breaking 90. that's where you're going to get to. I think so too. I think it's definitely there. In terms of

like my ceiling like you guys are talking about, I don't know if it goes much further than that. I think like the ceiling is the roof. Mid to low, mid to low 80s would be like my ceiling. But I think if I can start to play more consistently, obviously a little more difficult right now, I think I could definitely be in the mid-90s. I forgot to tell you guys this last weekend I got back out to Tobacco Road. What? What? Played it for the second time. First time since we were there. And I went 44 37 wow god

dude that back nine must be just a lot easier because I played great on the back nine as well I know 50 40 it was like I had I had for the third time of my career I had three birdies in a row I burtied 10 11 and 12 and I was like wait am I just gonna birdie every hole like it was fucking insane but it was funny when those

that front nine is treacherous it is fucking impossible like even the first hole is your you're standing there and like we played it before. We kept saying we've been talking to each other for months since November about like when we get back out, we got to play tobacco at a second time because now that we know it would be good. And all,

all, it was me and Eric Mitchell, who was the guy we met who's the head brewer here at Pinehurst. We got out there in the fairway and then we just looked and there's just all you could see are these fucking bunkers and like hills and mounds. And I just said like, what the fuck? What's happening here?

Like, what do we do? Where do we go? And it's like, I thought you've been here before. I have. I don't know, like, where to go. And the front nine just murders you.

Like, it kicks that fucking par five, that dog leg left around the huge bunker, like, that just ate our lunch. That was where Frankie was deep in the greed. It hit, like, an amazing shot. But that just beats your ass. What about this carry bag? I've got a ton of compliments via text messages about your carry bag that you bought. That's got to be the age.

That's the Iowner's group for sure. It has to be. Yeah, they can't believe you bought that bag. They said it's an automatic elite purchase, is the wording, I think. Yep. And actually a conversation sparked amongst the players.

And are, is someone, now this is a good conversation for a lot of the things, but is someone allowed to be sitting at home right now and buy that bag without ever going to, now I know that they technically could, right, like on a website, but like is it morally or ethically okay to buy that,

specific like cradle type Pinehurst number four whatever that bag was carry bag or any sort of merch like that that you know that you're going to get compliments on without ever going there or playing it I'll tell you it's not okay for as your girlfriend's father. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Correct. So, you know. I waited on that. I missed Augusta National for a good hour to get in that. You should troll him and just buy courses where he's just never been crazy. I'll get him These bags send it to him. So the bag you're talking about is a McKenzie golf bag. It's a Sunday bag.

So it's the smaller, you know, minimalist bag. It's orange. It pops. It's a Pioneer's number four bag. It says Pinehurst and it just has number four logo. Full disclosure, I like probably two days a week or so with a couple guys that work in the pro shop. When they get off work and I'm done with all my work, it sinks up where we go out and play the cradle at like 6.30 p.m. for like an hour or two hours.

Like maybe once or twice a week. We're out there. We're social distancing. It's like three of us. We have a little money game. And I've been saying for fucking three weeks, every time we play and I'm carrying my clubs like a schlep. And maybe got a beer like Owen's mixture.

I got a little cocktail out there. And I'm carrying all my clubs. And I'm like, you know what I need? I need that fucking McKinsey bag that's in the pro shop. And finally yesterday, they were like, hey, I'm going to take hundreds of dollars off you this afternoon. we're going to dust you. I was like, I need to show up with that bag to this,

to this round at the cradle. So I bought that thing. It is expensive, but boy, is it worth that thing. It is, I like how your voice cracks when you talk about expensive. I mean,

although I would have bought it. I mean, what is it? Is it like 200 bucks? Like how? 50. Higher. What?

425. You're at way higher. What? And 425? 550. Hold on. Stop talking. Shut up.

Hold on. Hold on. I need another pickle. All right. All right. 5.70. This is my sixth pickle I've eaten during the podcast, by the way. 6.95.

That's accurate. Shut up. Oh. Dude, it's a $700 golf bag. It's a $700 golf bag. Bro. Holy cock in my ass, bro. Are you kidding?

So me. Holy pickle in your ass. Holy soft pickle. Are you kidding? If it wasn't $700, I would have had it two months ago when I fucking first got here. But I kept thinking about that. that thing and being like, man, can I... I'm going to text them right now and be like, how much he's a bag with?

People are going to be able to believe it. So the thing with the McKinsey bags is they hand-make every single one of them that have this really cool... They're better. And all the old... I was just made with a machine. Dude, I want their sweat and blood on the bag. They're not.

I want their sweat and blood on the bag. I want to see that people, like, cut their fingers, like, knitting it. Yeah. Now look. Seven... there's a lot at play where it's like for the first several weeks I was here, you know, I got some really good friends down here that put me up. So I wasn't spending much money.

Pinehurst with the exposure and the help with like the fundraiser and all that. They're happy to give me access to pretty much all the golf. So I was like, I'm not spending a ton of money. All the food and everything's cheaper down here. I was doing all this rationalization of my head for weeks. I finally just went in there yesterday and said, that orange fucking bag, that's almost $1,000. Give it to me.

I'm leaving with that bag. No discount. You're only going to use it. You're only going to use it. You're only going to use it when you play the cradle, right? Or are you going to use that thing on the golf course? If you don't think I'm going to try to use that thing every time I hit a golf shot, I mean, it costs $700, frankly.

I think for something like that to go back to your original question, I don't, I wouldn't, I think I would try like a golf bag or anything like that. I would not rock unless I've been there and played the course. I got one PXG iron I'm like stunned in the silence by how much that thing costs that's crazy or like when you go you're going to use it Did you win the golf match?

Did that shock them enough to win the cradle? Dusted my buddy Dave, I was up like 50 bucks on him yesterday. So it really only cost you 645. Well, correct. Correct. We're right there. You know, and a couple weeks that thing was going to be free.

We'll be good. So yeah. I'm down here. I mean, that G4 sent me this bag that's off the charts. I've got our Barstool Golf, the Jones bags that we rock.

So I've got like three golf bags down here. So, you know, you never know what you're going to get when I roll up in my little, in my cart. I could have any bag on there. But that bag is hot fire.

It was not cheap. It's not cheap at all, man. It's a sick bag, though. It says $6.98 on the website. At that point, every dollar matters. $6.98. I just couldn't keep saying higher.

I was going to fucking fall off the bed over here. also I said 450 and Trent didn't want to go higher but he had to so it just goes 470 I mean I can't tell you what my brain was thinking when you guys were like okay 470 that has to be ridiculous I said what is it 200 Frankie started at 200 and was like that's outrageous yeah no way higher so yeah a little bit of a dent a little bit of a dent but it's my my bag now. We don't talk about it. Yeah, that's just, that's just what I did. It's like I, it's like I bought a vacation. I went somewhere. It's like a flight, $700 roundtrip flight, not terrible. I said, how much you think that bag was? They said, we saw $700.

Yeah, but it's mine now. I own it. And you can't put a price on, you know, that beautiful of a purchase. You can. Actually, it's really expensive, but, but I act like you can't. Okay. Jack says he wants to shout out his dad Pearlie, who just kicked Corona's ass. Wow. Way to go, Pearlie. Pearlie. Way to go.

Fuck yeah. Jack, thank you for giving us that shout out. And then we got to give one more mention that, again, this isn't really necessary what we do on this show. But Nova Scotia, that's where Cabot is. That's where Lurch and I have been to Cabot twice now and spent a lot of time with the people of Nova Scotia. We've talked a lot about my catty Dylan who went with us to Pebble, who spent a bunch of time up there.

There was an awful, awful mass shooting up there. And they ended up being like the deadliest of Canadian history over the past week. I had a few different people reached out and said, hey, it would just mean a lot to everybody in Nova Scotia. You guys could, you know, just kind of mention it and whatnot. And again, it's not necessarily like what we do on this show. And we try to kind of be the escape from people from any horrible, any negative stuff in your life. make you laugh a little bit, but boy, are the people of Nova Scotia, Canada, the nicest, friendliest, most hospitable people on planet Earth.

So for something like this, awful to happen up there, I know the chicklets guys have obviously been doing some stuff with hockey being so big up in Canada and Nova Scotia and all that. But be remiss if we didn't mention it and say that we're thinking about all the people of Nova Scotia in Canada, a place is incredibly special and I cannot wait to get back to Cabot. Hopefully this year, if not next year, but that place is awesome. Nova Scotian people you guys rock and stay positive and like I said Lurch you've been there a couple of times with me

yeah yeah I've been up there people are always great yeah so just thoughts obviously to that community and all everybody within Nova Scotia but Canada itself so tough times only get tougher but thoughts to them headlines we got

we gotta keep rolling we're going to get to from the gallery here in a minute too we got a bunch of good from the galleries from all of the listeners the match the match two, whatever you want to call it, Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, which Tiger amazingly lost last time, but that's the important thing is that he met Riggs from Barcelona the next day. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, matches confirm.

Rovel was tweeting it out. I think Jason Stobel was tweeting it out, and he was kind of, he was cited in a lot of these confirmed reports. It's going to happen. It sounds like it's Tiger and Peyton against Phil and Brady. It's going to happen next month in May. some of the other details are not yet confirmed, which course sounds like they're maybe targeting medalists,

which is Tiger's home course down in Florida. May 24th is sort of one possible rumored date, but that's not locked in yet either. All proceeds from the event are going to go to COVID-19 relief, which is obviously a really fantastic thing, but pretty cool, pretty exciting. I mean, it's sports. But it's something, right?

It's definitely something. We'll see how live, hopefully, it's live hopefully it's like all like raw and stuff and like I don't know how they're going to pull that off I mean in just a month but hopefully it's like a good production even if it's not like just put a camera on tiger just let him walk around selfie style and that's I mean put that on a VC prime time I mean tiger woods gonna be playing golf on TV like tiger was gonna be playing tiger golf on TV I'm in like it doesn't matter the patent stuff the time brace up that's all that's all just extra yeah it is and it's like last time you know Like I was there, so I don't know what the TV product was like.

I mean, I watched, like, highlights. People said it was, it was pretty, like, drag. The commentators were a nightmare. They were awful. It was terrible. I mean, the joke, like, there was just, there wasn't enough golf to fill the air. So I think, I think with this, and we talked about this before, it would be Tiger and Phil and potentially these two, Brady and Peyton as well.

Like, there will be banter back and forth going up the fairways. There'll be, like, you know, maybe some dad jokes, whatever, that will fill the airwaves. I think they'll really help it. And it's just sports. But we're now on the right. That's the point. What you just said, it's sports. Like all the naysayers from the match the first time around were mad about production.

They were mad about the commentators. They were mad about not enough banter. Now we just need anything. We just want anything. Look at the buildup that it was for the last dance on Sunday. That's a documentary about things that have already happened. And people were like, holy shit, this is going to be amazing. I can't wait for it.

And it was amazing. But like now we're talking about actual live sports. Just give me anything. Like Frankie said, if it's Tiger Woods and a selfie stick, I'm in. I just need something live. I'm looking at, sorry. The, so, you know, the format and all that, it's interesting. I think I've said on this show before, I can never remember if I just fucking told

somebody that said a bar or back on bars are a thing or if I talked about it on the show. But, like, a pure alternate shot. So it says here in this same report, Peyton Manning is a 6.4 handicapped. Tom Brady has an 8.1 handicap index. So, like, if you did a pure alternate shot with this crew where, you know, on the first hole, on the first tee, it's Tiger and Phil tee off, and then it's pure alternate shot from there. That would mean second T, four T, T, six T, all going forward.

You'd have a 6.4 and an 8.1 index, like, teeing off. And then the conversation, the bander-bagged for between, like, shot choices and Tiger trying to talk to Peyton about, like, how, how, to play this shot, where to put me so that I can get up and down. And all that stuff would be fascinating. Any other format's going to feel like too complicated with strokes or how do you handicap it? Do you handicap it? All that kind of jazz.

So the format, I think they got a nail. I think if they did pure alternate shot, it could be pretty fucking riveted. Yeah, it's like us playing with Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson. Just going out there and seeing how we would do with them using half our shots, which is in a fantastic layout. The fact that it's like, hey, like, Frankie and Tiger versus Riggs and and Phil Mickelson, it's like essentially like the same thing. I mean, they're a little bit better than me, I guess, like, but you're better than them. Isn't your index lower than that?

Or like, like, where are you at right now? I'm pretty close. I'm like a, I think I'm a 6.4 exactly right now. Okay. So it's like, it's pretty damn even. Like, man, that's good stuff. Like that has to be alternate shot. Has to be.

I love the way you said that, Frankie. It's like, how good can. Highgo Woods make my golf score with half my strokes. Like he's going to get to hit half my balls. Like how good can, how much lower can he bring my score is actually an amazing way to think about it? Yeah, it really is. It's a great one.

Yeah. So I'm actually reading a report. The only thing, so PGA has to give an exemption approval before potentially this goes, which I assume they'll do. But like, it is nice, you know, for the PGA to like hold on to the first event. But I assume that for the good of the game. They'll do it though, because even like Seth Wawa was like something's going to be coming soon hopefully for you guys and like people have been hinting like big news is coming like

i think this has been talked about and especially with the covid um money uh is all going to that that's a no brainer but it'd be a tough look if they were like no and they would be the obstacle in the way people would be like well we fucking hate you now yeah because they want to save all the dollars for when they make the profits next month right you can't you can't hold this charity event because we want all the dollars in like a month right this is why you talk it through the four-play board room right here. That's what you know you come to your conclusion. Well, well done. Yeah, so I'm sure they'll sign off. I'm sure they'll be fine. They had two for the Tiger Phil match too. I mean, that was like a technically a PGA tour

sanction thing. It was on there. If you go to like PGA tour website, you go to schedule. That match in Vegas was literally on the schedule. So they have to have sanction when it comes to these events. So fine, that's part of it. I'm sure they'll figure that out. But it's exciting. It's something to look forward to in about a month. And, I mean, go Tiger. I guess if you're, like, if you're a huge Brady fan now, like, then you're not even, he's not even a Patriot. So we, we had talked about it the last time that this news had gotten brought up,

that it would be awesome for it to be Tiger and Brady versus Manning and Phil. But that is, that man. One versus the two. It's over before it starts. So they had to put Tiger Payton. On ESPN Plus, they have like, it actually was playing for free the other day, ESPN. They had, like, Peyton Manning has this TV show.

show or it's like he like it's like the hundred years of the NFL and he like goes to different people it's actually a really cool show like he was like in the babe ruth's home and i guess ohio is it like Cincinnati ohio was baby ruth born i think um and like he goes to his old home and like in the basement of bay Bruce home is like just like a hall of fame like it's got like all these like NFL awards and stuff like it's basically like a safe of all these really cool old jerseys and stuff it's wild it's almost like a national treasure thing um and also one of the episodes they like show up at Jim Nance's house and it's a whole it's him and Tom Brady and it's a whole buffet of bits like they're trying to lot they're trying to um they're trying to like

get through the gate and they're like doing all these things like hello friends or welcome back friends and all this stuff I forgot what like wording to get into the gate ended up getting in maybe it was like Magnolia lane or something maybe it was like Magnolia lane or something like whatever but um they're hitting in his backyard and like Jim Nance's backyard like all time like he's got that That's a seven-pole replica, yeah. And they're, like, hitting off his house and shit. It was wild. They actually were, like, hitting off his house.

Like, he wasn't home was the storyline, and they were just using his backyard. But, like, they were actually, like, going back and forth. I know they were, like, mucked it up and doing a buffet of bits. But, like, at one point, Brady's, like, you know, you guys thought I was coming into your locker rooms and giving you warm gatorade. Like, what the fuck is that all about? Like, you think we're pumping in noise, like, and, oh, my guys, rip my jeans.

I mean, how does that happen? What are you nervously itching your jeans? I just like went to go itch my jeans. I just, like, you were talking during that. I was just like, I was talking, man. I just, that's crazy. Do you rip on your pants every time as you're talking? I guess so.

I mean, might as well just turn these into shorts, you know what I'm saying? Get these yams out. Let's get these things going. Get those things covered. But, but yeah, they were going back and forth. forth giving it to each other like Peyton Manning's like you know like you should just stay away from our stuff next time like it was it was pretty good so if they like I have a feeling that they really could like say some cool things that would be like headline type things I mean they've had

their fucking share of history yeah the flake gate was against like the Colts and was the fake was he on the team no he wasn't no it was post it was post but um but I'm concerned if you keep telling the story that you're going to be naked by the end of it so I know I know My point being is I do like the fact that they, like they, they're, they're not shy of going after each other because they had such a good career of going after each other on the football field. And there's definitely animosity. And it makes sense. Like, Brady roasted Peyton when he quote tweeted our four play tweet about golf. I was like, oh, yeah.

Like, I don't know why everybody's saying that, you know, we should, we're going to be on the same level. We're favored because, you know, he's been, he's had so much more time on the golf course last couple of years. Like, he just roasted them. So it's going to be that kind of stuff. My favorite pair of jeans I just read. It would be good. I'm sorry to hear that, Frankie. Well, yeah, match next month.

Exciting stuff. It's some live golf. So let's look forward to that. Rory says that a fanless rider cup is just not the writer cup. He said it's, quote, not a rider cup. That's from a European going, this is more of Rory's quote. He says that's coming from a European, going to America, knowing that I'm going to get abuse.

Obviously, it would be better for Europeans to play without fans because we wouldn't have to deal with some of the stuff that you have to put up with. But at the same time, it wouldn't be a, great spectacle. There would be no atmosphere. So if it came down to whether they had to choose between not playing the Ryder Cup or playing it without fans, I would just say delay it a year. I think that's pretty much what we said on the show. That is what we said on the show. But how about Rory just sneaking in a couple of times in there being like American fans are fucking assholes, huh? Yeah. That was my main takeaway. Yeah, he did. He basically said what we said delay it. But boy,

does Roy not like American fans? Well, look, we were at the President's Cup and like we heard what the fans were yelling at Bryson, were yelling at Patrick Reed. True. And I was at the Ryder Cup in Paris with Logan two years ago, and like, they yell shit. They yell just like,

so you just get abused from both sides. So I can't stand when it gets painted more, like Americans are like outrageously different, especially at Rider Cups, than these European fans, like maybe at the average European tour event compared to like the fucking Honda Classic or the waste management.

But when it comes to the Ryder Cup, like the Ryder Cup fans to the opposing teams are ruthless everywhere. So are they in the President's Cup. We were fucking there in Australia. 100%. So I don't think when it gets pegged that way, it's particularly fair. They like to pile on to American fans and call us like obnoxious and like over the top. I think that gets overdone, especially when you're talking about the President or the Rider Cup. But outside of that, I agree with where, I mean, you can't have the writer cup without fans.

It's the one golf tournament that is pretty much like as about the fans in the atmosphere as anything that they play. The Masters is about the golf course. Obviously, we love the history. We love like all this other stuff. The Masters is about Augustine National. You know, the U.S. Open is about the toughness, the carnage. The British Open is about links. The PGA is obviously struggled forever to find their identity.

But they're there about the PGA professionals and how many of them get in and it's the toughest feel because it's all pros. And it's a major championship of tough conditions. The writer comes about the fucking fans in the atmosphere. That's like pretty much what separates. Yep. I totally agree. And I think that Rory, especially, someone of his stature, right? Is that the word?

Yep. Yeah. Someone of his stature coming out and saying, thank you. Someone coming out and saying that, that basically puts it, you know, in stone. Like that's, it's over. Like there's no chance. That's the decision, I feel like. When you have a guy like Rory coming out saying that, if they do have to come with no fans,

are just going to say we're going to delay it. You can't have a guy like Rory now playing in it with no fans when he now made these comments saying like we might as well just not be doing this. This is stupid. Like that's just not worth the headache and all the media that's going to be around that. Like, well, Rory, now you're here. Like, how stupid is this? Like, yeah, I know.

It's like, I don't know why we're doing this. Like, why would you even want that? So if it comes down to the point where they can't have fans, no doubt about it. Cancel it. Delay it. Yeah, I think, I think delayed it as well. But like, who would have final say? Like, is there, do, does the American side have any, like, more power because we're hosting it?

Yeah. So, like, you could troll Rory, you know, being on that side and be like, are we okay with no fans? Well, let's give us an edge. The way I understand it, just, and I could be wrong about this, but that when it's in the U.S., it's the PGA of America, pretty much runs as the show. Seth Watt. Seth Watt. They obviously, he was on our show, no big deal.

Really powerful person. He decided to talk to us. I text him about peanut butter and jails. jelly if I want to. He's my best friend. That's great, Frank. Good. Everything except exiting a Zoom chat. Yeah, he can't exit a Zoom chat. Too poor. Every time we have, every time we, every time we, every time we, every time we, every

time we have a new guest now, I'm like a little fall, like, like, how's this exit going to go? DeMarcoor was great. Who was perfect? Oh. Jeff McNeil? Squirrel. Yeah, Jeff Mingdeal was perfect. Jeff McNeil was fucking in and out just so smooth. When you see people, when you see them fish, their, their finger goes up to the top of the screen, then you don't it's a big moment like if their finger then comes back down and they're still there you're in for a fucking bad

felt like an eternity that Sethwa was left leave the room we're looking at his ceiling the floor his finger was like and he realized it too he's like I can't get out of here can't I but the way I understand it when it's in America

he and the PGA of America have a ton of say they obviously work with the European tour but then when it's over in Europe, it's their European tour show. So I'm not, there's no way that Seth Wyn and they're going to like, just override the European tour and be like, fuck you, this is the decision.

But they ultimately, I believe if it came down to it, it's like, what does Seth Wai want to do? That's pretty much, I think, the final, that's where the buck stopped. Maybe we'll have it back on the pod to make his decision or while he's making his decision. Live announcement on 4-Play? Imagine. That's like not crazy, which is weird.

Not crazy at all. No, that's kind of a realistic thing that could happen. But anyways, that's kind of the latest with Rory. I think we all agree on that. As folks know, I've been down at Pioneers for, I think this is day like 36. And I don't have a car. So the way to get around, I did have a golf cart for a little while. But I always wanted an electric bike.

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It's saving me down at Pinehurst. It's fantastic. Okay. We are back. Oh, I see Frankie's, he's even set up his golf clubs back there. You got a nice little set that you built. Something gets added every time we come on.

I know. And my girlfriend doesn't like it because I completely mess up my room just to have this background. Like I, like everything behind this camera, what you guys see is just all the stuff that's supposed to be over there. There's lights or it's crazy. But I think it looks nice.

It's a nice aesthetic. That's a tough word. Aesthetic? Aesthetic. Okay, there you go. Well, you were saying aesthetic earlier. Well, it's just tough. It's hard to get the TH in there.

S-T-H. That's one of the, I mean, A-S-T-H. Aesthetic. Aesthetic. Aesthetic. Anyway, you know, I got the, and you know what's a really good touch behind me, and it doesn't help anyone listening to the podcast, but I have the flags up there and they go in year order.

Oh, 17, 18, 19. we call that chronological. Yeah, and at first I had them up just randomly, and it was like 1917, 18, no, 1917, 18. And I was like, well, I could just rearrange us and it's a nice, you know, chronological order. Very nice.

I have a Master's 2019 hat, even though we weren't there. How do you guys feel about that? Oh, did we answer the fact that, like, if you can buy that bag? Yeah, like, I, like, I, have a bunch of masters gear like i'd i wear it but i don't love it like i'd rather have been somewhere to wear something can you buy that mackenzie bag if you've never been to piner's no i think that's a weird

move no but i also don't like buying buying a like a master's piece of apparel that is branded with the year on if you if you're not there if you're not there i agree but if you are there it's cool because that's like your memory you're no no that's yeah yeah because i've got cups i've got everything when we went 17 and 18 but like if you bought a 2019 thing or somebody bought it for you that's a little weird now you know i've got cups also but i have change in them and i think that i've ruined i can never drink out of them again because change has been sitting in them for so long that like it's deeped into the plastic metallic kind of uh to your drink yeah you don't want that um i was going to say that obviously 2019 is when tiger won so my goal with this hat i think it was

Daniela maybe from the office who her dad went and got it for me and so then my goal now I have to bring it I have to remember to bring it to any tournaments that we go to then if I get Tiger to sign it then we're in business it legitimizes it right how about so what is the process

like when you buy a golf bag at a golf resort or a golf or a golf course maybe a private course like what do you you just like go home with two bags like let's say you flew to pine earth right and you wanted to buy a new Piner's bag. Like, what are you doing there? Like, what do you do there?

You travel home with two bags or you just toss the other one. Or maybe they might. I bet they have, I bet most pro shops have such an efficient system for this that they'll just ship them to use it though. They'll ship one of them home for you. Are you at the point rigs now where you have like your own locker there at Piner's? Like, where are your clubs?

Where do they stay? Do they stay at Pinerst or do you take them home every night? Well, there was a stretch, like I mentioned earlier, where I didn't have a golf cart. That was when I was on my rad bike all the time. But I have now reacquired a golf cart. So my clubs sit, looped into the back of this golf cart forever. They're just there all the time. And then I drive to this golf cart cruises.

I mean, it goes two or three times the speed of like a normal golf cart. Oh, that's fun. And I just, I cruise around the village in this thing. and then I just arrive at Piner's, and then whatever I want to do from there, like if I'm going to go play Piner's number two, for example, I could park this puppy pretty damn close to the first T, carry my bag over there, and then just tee off,

or if I'm going to go play Piner's number one, for example, where you can take golf carts, I will just take my, I'll just drive right over to the, you know, I go say hi to the guys in the shop and make sure it's cool and kosher that I can go play, but if I do, then I just go play, we're going to play the cradle.

There's a little fucking grassy, spot where everybody parks their cart right by the cradle. I just park my fucking cart right by the cradle first tee. I walk 20 yards. I just tee off and then I just get back in by car. It's got lights on it. When I go home at night, I turn the lights on. I'm going to be on the street. I cart right back to the garage. Park that bitch and the fucking club stay on the back. It's great. I just got to remember to charge the cart one time. How long of a drive is it? Six minutes and 15 seconds. Listen, things are, things are bad, right? Like, things are bad globally right now. But do you ever just stop when you're down there at Pioneers?

And you're like, I think I died and went to heaven. Because like a month ago, you were just in New York City all the time. We were going to an office. You were working in an office every day. And now there's just this stretch of your life that you will remember forever. Where you were like, yeah, I just got to hang out at Pioneers for a month plus. Is coronavirus the best thing it's ever happening to you? That's not what I was trying to say.

It's, well, this is kind of reminds me a little bit how, you know, Trent was all excited about the John Deer Classic benefiting from coronavirus. Right. All I can say to that effect, Trent Daddy, is that I think that everybody can, all that you can do in this situation is try to be safe and make the best of it.

And I think that I've done a pretty successful job making the best of it. I really honestly do. Yeah, my life day to day right now is better than it probably was day to day in Manhattan. I, you know. How many people listen to him is just go, oh, F you.

And I didn't want to put Riggs in that position, but I was just thinking about like, Like this, well, you did. Yeah, I did. This is like,

right in the corner over there. It's kind of your dream life. It's, it's, it's, it's the best thing that's ever happened to. You can say, like,

it's a joke, but it's like, like he lives at Piner's now. He has no, he has no responsibilities or obligations to work in New York City right now at his office and his job.

And he's now doing his job from one of the best, the worst part of my life in the world. The worst part of my life and most stressful part of right now is this shit with you guys that I gotta do.

Right, yeah. Yeah, everything else is just now. It's, I'll say, I think I brought this up a few weeks ago, but like I have very much realized that my favorite part about golf has nothing to do with playing golf. It's like being with people

and like having a match and like chatting and laughing and having fucking stupid dad jokes and somebody hits a certain shot. All of that stuff is like, is now what I've learned that I love about golf. There's always a peaceful spiritual aspect to like walking a golf course.

by yourself having a little $700 carry bag with you and especially if that course is Pioneer's number two or any course of Pioneers but you realize pretty quickly that like while that might have been like especially when I was really fresh into the game like I would pretty frequently because all my buddies weren't into golf as much

as I was when I first got into it and maybe they weren't readily available or we were home at different times from like college break or whatever and I would go play golf pretty frequently by myself and be like, this is fucking great because I cared so much about what I shot. Like, that's what I'm going to, that's what I'm going to measure myself against. It's like now I've gotten to the point where golf is like about,

I don't care really that much, like what my final number is. I care way more about like a match, fucking laughing it up, having a couple cocktails and like remembering the day that way than I do about the actual hitting the golf shots. So it's not quite as awesome as it could. It's not like it's a buddy strip the whole time. Right. I've said that, I've got it pretty good.

Dude, you know what I just thought about? And it's completely left my mind since we've started golfing all these incredible golf courses. And, like, I have more people now that I can golf with at any time I can find three or four people that, like, want to golf on a weekend or whatever. When I was growing up, the way I started golfing was like my dad would take me an hour. Sometimes we'd sneak on afterwards and we'd go whatever, like after everyone left and we'd go for twilight and hit a couple balls or whatever. But the majority of my upbringing of playing golf was showing up to like eyes and

and me and my dad would get paired up with like another two-sum and like some just random people. Like that's and I haven't done that in so long. But that is like how I used to golf. Like I used to golf with just random strangers all the time. Like none of my friends really add into it. And I used to just show up as like an 11 year old. And my dad would sometimes drop me off like get me my ticket and I'd go out and play at the hour blue course and I'd be with three adult males like just like we just play golf together.

and I knew nothing about them. But, like, I feel like, that is, like, what you're talking about, like, the camaraderie. Like, I used to, like, learn about people. And, like, it was like, we haven't done, I haven't done that in forever. If I did that now, that would fill me with anxiety. Like, you was just, like, as that kid, you just didn't realize how it wasn't strange, but that's just, like, an interesting way to get into the game. Yeah, I mean, like, even, like, when I was with my dad, we were just like, oh, yeah,

like, you just meet the guy on the first tee. Hey, my name's Frank. My dad would always, my dad always, always. always said the same joke every single time he says the same joke to this day he goes frank and i and he goes hey i'm frank this is my son frank easy for you just got to remember one name every single time i'm talking every single time just one name you got to remember frank and frank that's it easy for you huh and the guy's like ha ha yeah it's like it is annoying when you have to remember like oh it's bob it's john like oh is that Bob or is that John's like that's Frank it is like we get a ton of the from the gallery submissions are

like protocol and awkwardness around being paired up with random people and I just like now with us either playing all the time together like around New York it's it's usually like you can fill out a force him with your buddies that like I haven't done that in a really long time either and it's it's it's I don't know you kind of miss it a little bit is like that's how you got started the game and those rounds when I would go play by myself like I was talking about it's like you get paired up with two random dudes who were out there after work and like the first couple holes you don't really talk much like oh yeah hi i'm like rigs whatever and then by like the third hole they're like if they're like weed guys they're fucking like oh yeah they're just like you want to smoke you want

to hit this with us and like drinking and then by the end of it you know these guys really well or you can't spend two and a fucking hours with people and like not know them pretty well in golf or four hours or whatever it is so uh so yeah it's a it's an interesting part of golf that i do feel like we haven't experienced in a long by the way i got many i got many responses from people talking about smoking on the golf course after the last episode. I got the whole range of people being like, I don't play around the golf without smoking two or three joints. And I also got the people who were closer to my level where they were like,

if I smoke even a little bit, I'm scared to touch the ball. So that was a lot of people were hitting me up about that. A lot of people apparently do smoke on the course, which isn't that surprising, I guess. Yeah, I was just getting videos of people smoking up on the course. Yeah, I like that's cool. We were talking about like new quarantine chirps and like how you can say, like, oh, your social distancing over there. the other fairway and someone said to me which i thought it was a hilarious chirp that he always

uses he says um that's a great shot for you when someone hits on and that one just that reminds me of something like david would say from uh from schitz creek where it's like that's a great shot for you sweetie dude you like said it in david's voice because that's the first thing i thought of too right it's like it's just it hurts deep and i can't wait to use that like when someone like thinks they hit a good shot like maybe they like chucked it up there towards the gray it's like, oh, yeah, that's a great shot for you. Dude, my buddy holds that over to me. We're like, I'm a better, I'm a better handicap than he is right now.

But he still will say that. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I shot E2. He'll be like, oh, that's good for you. And you're like, you know, like. Dude, it's like, it feels like a kidney shot in boxing. Like, it's just like, it just completely debilitates you. Why can't it just be good? Like, good for you.

It's just good. Pooh-po-pooh. That shot and that score is just good. In the realm of what's possible for you on a golf course, that's good for you. That is just cut so fucking deep every time. We almost, going back to your last point, though, Riggs, when you were, or we're talking about getting paired up with random people, I played the other day with a buddy down here.

And we went to the starter and he was adamant that all two-soms play together. However, during this whole corona thing, this husband and wife had brought their two kids. Now, only the husband and wife were going to play golf. but these two kids were going to just run around with golf course, I guess, why they played. And I was trying to avoid this like the plague. I mean, I was just like, this is going to be a mess. I mean, the kids are like six and eight.

They're not going to play, and they're just going to run around. Thank God. The starter, like, was maybe 150 yards away from the actual first T-box. So we got up there, and the family was like, no, no, no, no, don't worry about it. Like, go players or two soon. I was like, thank God. Respect. Yeah, right now it's tough with that.

I first couple weeks here I told the story about the old the 70 fucking 8 year old couple that we're like you're the you're the 320 we're going to join you and I was like actually you know no like with everything going on you're not you're just not going to we're not going to play together and they're like

excuse us okay well I mean I'm going to fucking kill you if I have corona and I don't know it and you're ancient and your lungs are weak because they've been around for 80 years you're going to die that's not I don't want that to be my fault so no we're not going to play golf together but it's hard to explain to people because everybody at that time everybody too was taking the

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It was nuts. Yeah. Yeah, he's got another violent storm. Yep. Oh, big time. Big time. It was crazy, dude. Like, it came out of nowhere, like 60, 70-mile-hour winds.

It sounded like my roof was going to come off. And then it was hailing like crazy. My dad took this video from Borrelli's like, he was like, whoo. April 21st, 2001, 2020. Look at this. And I was like, are you on an amusement park ride or is the world ending? Like, what is happening? The hail was coming in.

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First, I noticed that like the houses, how much better the house looks just based on the lawn? I'll be like, wow, what a gorgeous home that is. And the actual home can be significantly shittier. But the person, this guy had a lawn. He's out there. He had a huge bag of the Scots. and he had this bright, like, blush his green lawn next to some schmuck who didn't.

The house was just, it was like when someone tries to do Christmas lights and they just look pathetic. And the person next to them, you know, it looks like they're at the fucking North Pole. And it's like, it's such a stark contrast.

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It's maybe the biggest like contrast in a neighborhood is what Riggs is talking about when you go house to house. And like the guy has the perfect grass that's mowed perfectly. It's mowed perfectly. That's just like beautifully green. and then there's no fence or anything, but the yard stops, and then the other one starts, and it's just like dead, it's crab grass.

It's like not like it's grown at different lengths. It's a mess. By the way, you're like, that guy's job's a mess. He doesn't have anything organized. His marriage is falling apart, everything about that guy.

By the way, Frankie just put up a picture, and I saw this picture earlier today too. Gary Player retweeted it. It was when Yao Ming met Gary Player, and it's just a hilarious picture. Yao Ming standing next to Indian. Anybody is funny, but we have met Mr. Gary Player, and he is on the shorter end. So him and Yao Ming is just, it's hilarious.

It's just outrageous. That can't be real. That can't be your real picture. It does look like it's Photoshop. No, it's real. I know it's real, but it does. It looks like, it looks like honey, I think the kids. I mean, Gary Player looks, his, his hip-ls are at Yao Ming's belt.

Yao Ming is a fucking monster. For a long time on Barstlesports.com, I had a blog series where it would just be Yao Ming standing next to somebody. And like anytime Yao Ming took a picture, it's like, here's Yao Ming staying next to like Shaquille O'Neal and Shaq's looking up at Yao. It's really, really something. Are you going to, you should blog that picture, Gary? I think I will.

Bring that back. How about we stayed at Gary Player's house at the Masters? Yeah, I didn't do that. Yeah, that was me in rigs. That feels, now that feels like 10 years ago. But that's definitely a thing we did. When we first got there, we finally found the right house, which was a nightmare. And then once we found it, a guy let us inside and was like, hey, you guys got to be pretty quiet so you don't wake Mr. Gary player because he was sleeping.

Yep. And then the first time we actually met him, he was just having a snack in the kitchen. He loves berries. He crushes berries. Like a little bull of berries. They're so good for he says and he keeps him fit. And that's how he's Mr. Gary player. Davis says, is there a max number of balls in the bag? A player is allowed to have a PGA tour round. many balls would you need in your bag to make it through a whole round without losing them playing

in order to not be disqualified? I actually look this up. There's no requirement. It did say that the average tour guy keeps about nine balls in their bag. I don't know how they would know that unless they like pulled everybody. But it did say it's around nine that most guys have. There's that famous story of Tiger Woods with Stevie Williams. I think it was the Friday round of the 2000 U.S. open. 18th hole, they had to come back the next morning, Saturday morning and play the 18th hole or play like five or six holes because of darkness the day before. And Tiger, at the end of the round, had taken like four or five balls from his bag

to go practice putting in like his hotel room or whatever. And Stevie, the next morning, didn't replenish the bag with balls. So we only had like two, or we only had three golf balls in his bag. And Tiger had to play, I think, 13 through 18 at Pebble. He had like an eight shot lead at the time. he said he hit like a cart path or something on the 13th hole or a wedge that scuffed the ball. So Tiger gives it to a fan. So Stevie's like,

I'm down to two. Then if you remember, Tiger hooked his T shot on 18 at Pebble into the water. And that's when they caps her on the mic being like, you motherfucker like cursing himself. So then Tiger's like, give me the ball. Stevie hands of another ball.

Tiger keeps the driver out. And Stevie's standing there going. If this ball goes in the water, I'm either fine in it or we're discus. qualified from the tournament and he has an eight-shot lead and he's like I almost said something to tiger about like hey my one to hit like a six eye and uh and tiger striped it down the middle ended up making bogey so a birdie on the second ball and they got out of there but for us i do think about this a lot because especially around when you're carrying your bag or push card or

whatever balls like they kind of add up how heavy they are and we're not that good so some rounds I'll need two golf balls, some rounds I'll need 10. So it's like how many is that perfect number where you know you're not going to lose all of them, but it's not going to be too heavy? I would probably say at any given time I've got eight to 10 golf balls. I usually for a good round, I bring a fresh brand new sleeve. And then if I go through that sleeve, I just use the crummy ones that have been scuffed up in the bottom of the bag. It's kind of how I go about it.

When I'm playing a really nice golf course or a big round that I'm in, participating for a long time. I'll get one of the big boxes of the sleeves with the four sleeves in it, and I'll dump all 12 golf balls in there. That's amazing. Just so, like, it feels like a pro bag, right? When you go in there, you just got 12, like, ProV-1s or, or, like, T-P. Hand-touches all of them, and you're just like, I have a plethora of these things,

and I can do anything today. I can spray this ball anywhere I want, and I'm going to find another one in my bag. I'm not going to be that asshole, that ass for it. There's no worse feeling than, like, knowing you're playing poorly, and knowing you're running out of golf balls and you're like, oh man, this is it? Like if I lose this one, I just go home. I don't know what else to do.

I don't have another ball. Like, hey, you have a ball I could, like, play with because I don't have a golf ball? And what if he's like, no? And you're like, all right, I go home. I'm going in. How am I going to play the game now? Like the golf game, I don't.

You got to have a golf ball. I wonder if that's ever happened to anyone where they literally ran out. I mean, it had to have, right? You play by yourself, maybe. You just run out of golf balls. and you're just like, I'm done. You see that trying to find one.

I mean, like, yeah, when I have a bad hole, I just go up the left hand or right-hand side and just walk through the hazard and just pluck a couple golf balls. Yeah. DeMarcus Ware actually talks about how they have a funny game with their buddies. It's just whoever comes away with them more golf balls

that in the other round wins the whole thing. Tom says, if you got a hole in one on the first hole of the round, what would your expectations be for your final score and how much pressure you're putting on yourself to now post a low score. If you score higher, you have a shitty round, does it lessen the initial excitement of the hole in one? The reason I put this in here, and we can talk more about that, is that my brother, the only one I've ever seen in like an eight,

like a legitimate like hole in one, not on like a par three course, was my brother at Band of Dunes, which I told the story, on the 10th hole at Pacific Dunes. And then I realized on the next T, like, oh shit, this is going to be a scorecard that like, my brother's going to save, frame, share, and have it as home forever. And my score is on it.

And so I need to post something respectable here or every time that we're like throwing darts in my brother's man cave or garage, I'm going to get roasted because the whole one story is going to come up. There's Rick's who shot fucking 94. And so it was super stressful from there on out. Every time somebody's like, yeah, that puts like good if you want it. I was like, done. I'll take it.

See, that makes sense for you to feel that way. And I've obviously never gotten a hole in one. None of us have it. So you don't know how you're going to feel. But I think if I made a hole in one, I don't give two shits about what my final score is because people are going to look at that scorecard. Yeah, maybe it says 108. It's like, that's not great.

But it's also like look at that hole in one on there. However, the guy I played with, which was rigs in that situation, you definitely would care. But if I got a hole in one, I don't give a fuck. No, I wouldn't assume I'd want my score to be better, but I just wouldn't care and I wouldn't assume it would be any better. It would still be between like, you know, 80 and 84 probably or whatever it's going to be. So I just wouldn't care either.

As long as I said one on it. But I do get the pressure from Riggs's side. That makes total sense of being like, I'm like eight over through five right now. Like I got to get this in check. This isn't just a round. This is a famous round for us. For our family. I have to post it.

Like with the one round, like most rounds you just forget about. This is the one that is going to be remembered forever. I would, yeah, I'd want to think that I'd care that much, but I would end up taking it just like I'd do with like a birdie being like, all right, now I can bogey the next two and I'm back to bogey health. You know what I mean? Totally. Like if I, like, oh man, now I can literally bogey two and three and I'm even baby. I'm even through, I'm even through three. No problem.

The thing I didn't tell you guys about tobacco road earlier where I made three birdies in a row is then I then made a double on a par five that's like reachable right after. Oh, I hate that. Yeah. Isn't it the best, though, to be like, all right, I made a double. but now I technically made two pars in a row. I always do that mentally on the next tee. Like if I make a birdie and then, if I make a birdie and like a bogey,

it's like, well, I just made, you know, I made a par. Dude, that's the beauty of the fives that lurched taught me. Where like you can start piling up strokes. And if you make a fucking seven,

but if you made a three on the par three, you're good. Great. Love that. I think I eat too many pickles, if we're being honest. Yeah, you were really,

like, I think it was like more of like, you know, I was just doing it and we're talking about pickles. I had seven pickles. I mean, that's got to be it's got to be a lot no you were yeah you were kind of eating pickles out of entertainment it's not like necessity you know or hungry you know how you do that sometimes you eat

just because you're bored or all the time you do that i've never been pickle stuff i mean that's got to be a different kind of good man seven pickles is like that's got to make your stomach a little bit it is turning man poor frankie uh a couple a couple people said this idea in zach and connor had the same kind of idea. They said, what if the tour, when they return, have a dedicated sanitation guy who goes out and cleans the hole and the pin after every group comes through? Kind of like a ball retriever guy in tennis or something.

He runs out there, like, real low and just gives it a quick little fucking... Or maybe like the basketball court cleaners. You know, when they fall and they got to get it. Yeah. So he's going to do it just like a stripper pole clean? Yeah, I think so. I like the idea. It makes a lot of sense.

I mean, I still think the problem for golf is the logistics. all the people getting there. Not so much the golfers themselves, but the people that are like making it go and making it be able to be... I like that idea. I just like also the fact that the pros will have to deal with the same shit

that the amateurs and everyday USGA type players are going to have to deal with. Like the pins in and all that stuff. Like I kind of like that. I like that it's like a new era. I mean, it's going to be a different era of golf, obviously, especially the end of this year. Whatever happens this season is just different.

So it's like, might as well go all in. Like the master's going to be in fucking whenever. When is it going to be in November? The master's going to be in November. So the fucking weekend is the Barstall Classic Championship. Have you made a decision on that? Not to go behind the scenes, but. No.

Okay. Yeah. I got to be, that's tough, man. Like, I may watch the Masters. I may watch the Masters. That's Sunday. Yeah, no shit. We're all going to like the Masters.

You know what I mean? Like, I think I think I'm just going to like watch the Masters on that day. Nobody's saying that. The way it would work is the Barstville Classic Championship would start at like 8 a.m. It would be done by the time everybody tees off. I thought maybe you'd go head to head with the boss man. Yep. No, what am I an idiot?

No, the plan would be the thinking of to continue to do it is that it could be a really cool golf weekend where like the golf and the golf and the Barstall Classic is played in the mornings. By the time of leaders tee off at 2.30 in the afternoon or whatever on Saturday and Sunday, it's all cool golf people together at Pinehurst watching the Masters. That's cool. And I guess it doesn't really matter. Is it going to be like, I mean,

yeah, for the people that are playing it as long as they get to watch it. Like everyone else, all the Barso fans won't matter. Knowing your luck and the luck is already shit because the Masters is in fucking November this year, they would have a situation like 2019 where all the rains are coming in,

so we got to have early tea times and then it's all fuck. Then what am I doing? I'm like, I'm trying to run this tournament that we've been putting on for two years. And it's like, an incredible championship like at Pinehurst like that's fucking tough again

what were the odds when we booked this thing November 15th that it would coincide with the master there were no odds that's just no odds on that because it's so astron of this goddamn 8 trillion to one that chair looks awful

it's like it's so old and it's like breaking apart and I like to put this little thing over it and then when it gets I'm the only one that you always have a chair issue I don't know, man. I'm just trying to figure it all out, you know. Do you think if the PJ Tour came back and they were having events that they would adopt what, like, courses are doing right now for amateur golfers?

I don't think they would. I think they would much more lean towards the suggestion that these guys made, where you have somebody on every hole cleaning out the hole and the pin. I'd love to see some pool noodles at, like, at, like, TPC sawgrass. It'd be hilarious. I mean, I could see the John Deere Classic comes back with something stupid. Listen, I have a long said, and we talk about it on the podcast, that I wanted to be the testing ground for all the new shit.

If we got to put pool noodles in the holes at TPC Deer Run, let's do it. Let's be the testing ground, and I'm in. Yeah, you know, I don't know that Tor can really play a golf tournament where, like, the hole is just this deep into, right? Like when they do the PVC pipe here, like that's how deep it is. So I actually, I was just thinking like as much golf as I've played, which is a lot. I can't think of one instance where like the PVC pipe cost the ball to not go in. Now, the PJ Torpo is a much more accurate.

So somebody could like slam dunk one from with an iron shot and approach that would just bounce 30 feet in the air and go over the green. That otherwise would have gone down into the hole and stuff like that. So that's, like, you can't have that. So I don't know what they're going to do. It's a lot to figure out in the, and supposedly in the next two months. Right. There's, yeah, June, June feels unlikely. Zero.

I'm going to put that percent chance at zero. When do you think we're back in the office now? Anybody change in there? I'm now updating. Everyone's asking me how long are you being in Pinehurst when you're going home. I'm now saying I'll be here until at least June 1st. Yes. Yeah, I think that's good.

I would say... There's no way we're back next month. Yeah, I don't... I mean, I don't think you're before anybody's back in an office before June 15th, you know? Like, yeah, I would say closer to July. Like, I don't think our group's going back until July. Right. And the only reason I would ever...

Like, the only reason I would have to leave Pinehurst in this magical life here in this village with all these 10, 9 and a half golf courses that are... Because if people start getting healthy, which is what you don't want. You want carnage. You don't want that vaccine coming out. You don't want that vaccine. You got to stay at Piner's, man. I'm like Novak Djokovic just against the vaccine.

Just, nope. I just don't fucking, like, we're just going to go back and, like, how is, like, I don't know, man. How is it all just going to be all right? And, like, we're going to sit a foot away from each other and that, like, germ-infested gross off. Just spread diseases even outside of the coronavirus to each? No, you can't do that. Now you can get into the whole like logistics of what the actual lockdown is supposed to be. And like I saw someone commenting once on some, I don't know, some article it was like the lockdown is not supposed to be to make everyone not get the virus.

It's supposed to like stop the curve. Like it's supposed to like by being everyone locked in. It's not like everyone's not going to get it. It's about hospitalizations. Hospitalization. Stopping the curve to the point that like when you do get sick because they're expecting you to get sick that you're going to be able to go to the hospital and have like a ventilator and. get it done. But like, so at some point, like, we're just going to be released back into the world and like, we're going to get sick. We're going to get it. Right? Like you're like,

their plan is for you to just be able to go to the hospital if you need it. Yeah, them to be able to handle it. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Because they're saying this fucking fucking thing's coming back with a vengeance in the fall and winter. It could be worse. It will be worse. The fucking WH, whatever that shit said, the W.HO. Yeah. It's scary, man. The world's going to be so much more different than I think even we're anticipating. Like I think a lot of people thinking we're all just going to go back and it'll be

all right and, you know, we'll deal with it, but I think it's going to be much, much different. Playoffs are supposed to be right now for hockey. And like, I was looking back at like memories, they pop up on your phone and like I was at the Coliseum. The Islanders were up like 3-0 against the Penguins in the series. I was

jumping on people's backs at the Coliseum. This old vendor, he was like, popcorn, and I'm jumping on his back. Like, I'll never be able to do that, I don't think. Like, you'll never be able to just be in a rock. It's fucking just sliming all over each other. Like, it's just going to be unacceptable to do that. Yeah, could you imagine jumping on somebody's back after a big playoff goal and going nuts or high, even high fiving?

Dude, think about when like your playoff goal, you're all like, I grab, I grab everyone around me at those games. I put them in headlocks. I'm like, we did it. And now it's like, I'll just be put in jail. Dude, think about this. I got a package here. at my apartment, so I got to go down and get it. I saw someone in the hallway, and I, like,

I, like, jumped. Like, I, I got scared. Like, we got to, we're talking about basic human interaction that we have been told that we cannot do. So when you, I saw one person, I was like, oh, fuck. Like, that's fucked up. You haven't seen anybody a long time, Trent? No. For a while. People haven't seen Trent in a long time.

Yeah. It's a two-way street. Oh, you. Don't worry about it, man. dude it's going to be that feeling again where you like when we are all in the office it's almost like when you see someone from tv and you see them in person we're all going to look a little bit different we're going to be like shorter than you remember or like you know what i mean because we haven't seen each other in months like i don't know like when i saw like dave portnoy for the

first time i was like oh he looks just like different than when i watched him for 10 years and people are going to have beards they're going to weigh more they're going to weigh less that's just going to be a different feeling you know it's like oh yeah that's what you're like. Yeah, you see yourself every day so you don't notice the change, but everyone else is, you look very different. Well, no, I'm not, I'm not, but you are. It's going to be fucking bizarre.

I need some vitamin D. That's what I need to get. I've been taking, vitamin D, like, gumming. I've been taking a one a day. I've been getting too much done. Did you know that I've been taking a one a day also, and it's two, you take two a day? I, like, I wanted to, like, rant about

that. That is a right. It sounds like a Seinfeld bit. Yeah, that does. Dude, it's recommended. If I go on mine, it's going to say serving size two. Yes, dude. It's sad, what a day? Why am I taking it twice a day? Is he going to get it right now?

What voice did you just make right there? Seinfeld. That was Jerry. I told my best. That's not a very good Seinfeld, but. No, but I knew what you were going for. I knew what you're doing. It's a really, yeah, it's a very, um, exaggerated version.

Yeah, it's a, it's fine. You made your point. Yeah, you did it. Is Frankie going to get that right now? Is that what's happening? I mean, he's got the stuff in for the day. During this show, has he just gotten up during a lot, during a show? Oh, wait.

This is. Wow, he's got the headson. I will say, this has been our most, like, relaxed-ish show, and I like it. Me too. And I got packages. We can do an unboxing, you know, like father-like son. Wow. So I got this, this little, like, one-a-day thing here, right?

And this is like the off-brand. This is like a CVS brand or whatever. It says one-a-day, are they all in there? Yeah, it's a one-a-day. And I had the one-day. as well. The only reason I know that that this is because I read the one a day package. It says serving size

two adults chew two gums per day. No. It says it on the thing. It says two gums per day. Is the title? Is there something on the other side that says it's a one a day? Men's daily multivitamins.

No, no. Not this one, but the one of day ones did say two a day. Oh, shit. my finger. You're not going to have the same one I had if it's pills. I had gummies. Right, but yours doesn't say one a day. Yeah, it just doesn't.

Yours on the labeling doesn't say one of day. But my, I had the labeling one is what I'm saying. It's just, I had the one of day ones. It's how it started. I argued on your guy's point with my dad. My dad took two of them like that you're just not doing what it says,

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and I said I was an idiot stupid no I didn't you're just hearing things because you're sensitive rigs let's tie it up please enjoy this interview with demarcus wear you're going to love demarcus he's such a nice sweet gentleman which is the opposite one of a day something you're supposed to take to each other demarcus wears up next yearbo champ big golf guy you're going to love it I'll uh I'll see you guys next week hit it hard it all right it all do it what's up man Hey, what is up, man? What's you guys up to?

We're just hanging. Look, I mean, our setup ain't as good as yours. Look at this. Hey, dude, I'm in here probably about three hours a day, man, but I went out of this crazy quarantine inside in this dog simulator room. That simulator is insane. I have to hit balls into a, I got to hit balls into a pillow. You're hitting them on a virtual pebble beach.

Hey, dude, actually, they have Pebble Beach over here. They got Colonial. I mean, you just go online and just play the courses, man. I feel like on my side a little bit. Oh, my God. Man, DeMarge is where. I mean, we should just get right into this. Yeah, what's up, man?

I could do a whole intro, but your Super Bowl champ, long time cowboy, won the Super Bowl with Denver Broncos. We get to all that. I heard you're a huge golf guy, and then you pop up on our screen in your insane simulator. Is this in your house? This is my house. It's upstairs.

I changed the theater room into a golf simulator room. I said I'll get more use out of it. Jeez. So you're just a huge. golf guy? When did you get into golf? You know what, man, ever since I retired, I tried to find something where I can still compete in and kick somebody's butt and swinging clubs is where it was at, right? But the thing is, it was one of those sports where I never could perfect.

Oh, my God, man, every single swing has a result when that white ball tries to go down that fairway, man, and it's crazy. And I try to perfect it every day. I mean, I didn't even have to spend this much time playing football. You don't know. I'm saying? Yeah, buddy, if you're pretty sure to the choir, we talk for about an hour and a half twice a week about how infuriating golf is and how no matter what we do, we can't get anywhere close to good at it. And that's kind of you do the whole thing.

Yeah, and you can get beat by anybody. I mean, they can be 75 or they can be 14. It doesn't matter. I mean, there's no, no guidelines for sure. We got this eight-year-old that messages me on Twitter and us on Twitter. He just talks smack. The guy, he's going to beat me hands down in a golf match. He's eight years old, and he's just a stick.

Yeah, so that's what it goes to show. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter what, like, you have these, like, I'm a skinny guy hit it further than rigs, not to bring that up. But, like, it doesn't matter about muscles. It doesn't matter about muscles, all of stuff. Like, as long as you got that swing, that ball can go anywhere. Dude, technique. It's all about technique.

And when you're talking about the ball going everywhere, that's what mine goes. It doesn't always go straight, man. And I've had a problem where I have so much power because sometimes I'm swinging like 175 mile now on the, I mean, with the clothes. Yeah, man. I'm watching it on here because I don't really know how to equate all the numbers yet and what they mean, right?

Some guys are like, hey, your trajectory is this, and this is the reason why it goes to the right. And so I'm learning how to use the vectors and stuff on this G2 machine. But they're like, you have all the power, but you can't control it. You're not, your club faces open majority of the time. I have that baseball swing because I played baseball in high school. So I want to dip the majority of the time.

And the ball goes straight up, dude. And I'm trying to correct that still right now. So when DeMarcus Ware really gets a hole of a golf ball on a drive, how far does that thing go? I can bring my driver out. I'll use like my five, and I hit it probably about. 240. I use like my five iron and hit about 240, but my driver, I can't even control it. So, but when I get a hold to one, like, dude, I can get it probably, let's say 375, 400 yards.

I can hit it easy. That sounds about right. I mean, is that club just like a toothpick to you? Is that club just being like a toothpick to you? Dude, I just broke one yesterday. I just broke one of my club yesterday. That's surprising at all. One of my three irons are broke yesterday.

Hold on one second. Hold on. Okay. I got you right here. Yeah, let me see this thing. Dude, I was golfing yesterday. Look at this. Oh, my God.

That's a broken golf club. My day I asked me off. You know what I mean? So how are you guys game? We're struggling with the connection a little bit. I think the connection may be off a little bit. I think that's why we're kind of off on this connection. I lost it.

He's frozen. These are the... I can hear him. It's like a transformer a little bit. Oh, you're hitting balls. He's just grinding in between connections on the show. He's just hitting balls. No wasted time.

Demargas, connections, a little. spotty. I wonder if maybe a different room. Can you hear us? So our games, Frankie, I don't know if you could hear us, but Frankie's probably the worst player with a wedge in his hands in America. Yeah, I was saying before, I mean, it's like a mental block. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure you being a world-class athlete, you've never been able, you've never had a situation which you can't overcome it. I can't overcome the wedge yet. No matter, I've been taught by professional golfers. I've been brought on the range by Bryson D. Chambot at the PGA championship. the Wednesday before major, he taught me on the range, and I still couldn't figure it out.

So I just can't do it. One of these days, it'll just snap and something will just connect, and I'll be able to flush those wedges, and I'll be able to hit off tight lies. But for now, for everyone standing around, it's a problem because balls are going at heads, balls are going at chins. They're not going on the green. I'll tell you that. Dude, it was crazy when I got to play at the Century Tournament in Tahoe for the first time.

And, you know, I practiced for like two months. You know, and these guys are practiced for six years. You know what I'm saying? And I went there, and the first swing, you know, they call your name. You go up there, your first drive. And I'm like, why the hell is it so quiet, right? Everybody's quiet. There's thousands of fans and they're right beside you.

I said, hold up, wait a minute. Everybody needs to move back because somebody is going to get hit with this golf And they were like, no, we're okay. Just hit us. We're in a lot of fire. And so I almost hit somebody on the first drive of the tournament. And guys are like, man, that's normal. I said, that's normal?

It was crazy to me, man, those tournaments like that. Yeah, I like, I've always wondered how the hell of those people stand there when there's PGA tour players? And when you've got guys that, like, are amateur average golfers? Like, it's a death wish. Like, what the hell are these people? Suicide. Yeah.

It's suicide. Hmm. We're back. It's back. Yeah. Who, who, I mean,

who were some of the, when you first started playing a lot, do you play with like Peyton or who do you get out there with? He's a big golfer. You know, the thing is I played with Romo a lot. I mean, he played during training camp every single day during training camp.

Because we was in Oxnard, California. It was a really good golf course by the hotel. So we, you know, a couple of guys who were, got there and just clear our minds after practice because we had a little free time. And then like the guys here, like Jason Whitten, you know, Jason Hatcher, the name of you, I mean, some guys that play golf every single day.

I think they're trying to get out of the house at least for four or five hours without being messed with. But they play every day. I know that hurting right now because they can get out there. Well, football is also a sport where it doesn't really affect any, because you guys aren't swinging in football, right? So it's like it's not going to, we just talked to Jeff McNeil on the Mets. I'm swinging bows and I was saying, I said, I say I'm swinging bows.

That's true. That's damn right. Causes on a nightmare is for offensive linemen. Yeah, we were going to say you were a problem for quarterbacks and offensive linemen, but you may be more of a problem for golf clubs and balls from with 170 mile an hour swing speed. But we were talking to Jeff McNeil on the Mets and I was wondering like if it affected him, like, you know, going from a baseball swing to a,

golf swing because he was playing on his off base. But for golf, for football, like for Tony Romo, like, yeah, going out there every day. That's not, that's just, that's more relaxing and, like, and getting away mentally and being able to play. So it's a great sport, I think, for football players. Yeah, it's totally different, man. And the thing is, struggling with the connection. Connection's real spotty right now.

DeMarcus, we want to talk off with you so bad, but we can't really hear what you're saying. He's gone, he's gone. Oh, is it better? Oh, you're clear. Oh, good. Holy shit, are you clear? Oh, shit. Yeah, you're looking clear.

All right. It must have been a bad connection somewhere, man. All right. Well, now we're back. So, yeah, I mean, we were, look, we're talking about who you're playing golf with and, you know, Romo and those guys playing church. Talk about how obviously football is not necessarily like baseball,

where those guys are worried that maybe their swing will get messed up, swimming about golf. And you were just saying basically you're swinging bows and football. Hey, I'm throwing bows, man. You said we don't swing in our football. We're swinging bowls and knocking those guys down for sure. So we're swinging something, but not club. I know one of you guys said earlier that golf is a good sport, you know,

for any athlete, man, because you know how you've got to think about a thousand things in each one of the sports. And then golf is the same thing. right before you swing that club you got to think about all the things you did before that but then where you're going to be going and where you're going to hit the ball at going for but then it's also the sport where they say try not to think about anything but that's impossible because people tell you a million different things and then they're like once you go over the ball just don't think about anything and it just never goes the way you want it for your mind they say

free your mind what does that mean i got a million things from the time i lift that club back my brain's going a mile in a minute. Nobody's free in that mind. No one's free in my mind. No shit. It's a lot of green space out there, but I'm going to tell you what, that little white boggles everywhere. Everywhere. Do you guys play like money games?

Are those guys big gamblers? What those matches? We do play a lot of money games, man. You got to always bring the competition up for sure. I mean, we'll bet, you know, probably sometimes each swing, sometimes by, you know, who gets to the hole first? It's whatever the situation is. Sometimes we'll just ball count.

We'll see how, if you start with eight, we'll see how many you're going to have at the end of the game. And if you add a ball, that's $200. If you add a ball. So if you start with eight and you finish, let's say if you're on whole eight and you lost eight of them, guess what? Do you add a ball?

That's $200. If you have a ball, that's $200. So it has a... see now we're talking that's like a if you come out positive with golf balls you could shoot 1 30 you had a great day yeah what's the what would you say the strongest part of your game is your golf game and the weakest part right now I think the uh the weakest part I'll start with the weakest part in this driving I mean because I can't control it and the strongest part of my short game I mean I can get those irons and I can I'm pretty consistent with with those um and I would

say two weeks, two week parts in pudding. Pudding is a beast. Pudding and driving, beginning and the end, I have a big problem with those, but everything in between, I'm a pretty, I'm a beast at that. Man, I feel like you, like, it'd be very funny. Like, how big is your putter? Do you have, like, a giant putter?

Dude, dude, I got one of those huge, even like the jumbo rips. I got, like, double jumbo grips. You know how when you go in the PGA. golf plays. They actually what kind of grips you want. And they put the jumbo grips on them. Like, man, I can't even probably hold the club.

So they, like, doubled it up. They double wrapped it. It's almost, it feels like a baseball bat. All of my golf clubs, man. But I add, like, almost like, extra weight on them. They're like, hey, how much weight? That's what I'm going to do. Yeah.

As much weight as you want to put on that one right. So you've, I mean, you've obviously, you've been, football got forever coaches. You guys have a million different coaches for all kinds of stuff. You got like a golf coach that helps you out? You know what I do now. I started last year. It was a guy named Rich Sheriff Shamrock at the Dallas Cowboys Golf Course.

And he's been helping me out so much, man, just trying to be able to calm everything. Now we actually do lessons from him because he has a simulator at his house. And so we'll go back and forth and he'll teach me even like fitness moves, like fitness stuff that I should do. but then we'll go over a whole class probably about once a week. What kind of you doing some crazy-ass golf fitness drills? Like what do you? You know, it's more swinging, getting flexible, getting everything lined up, making sure your swings right

because he said, you know what it's all about muscle memory? I said, well, my muscle got a much memory is I can get, because I play about three hours a day. But what do I need to do to make sure it's consistent, you know? You got too many muscles. You got more muscle memory than most people. You got more muscle memory than me, I'll tell you that. Oh, man.

Oh, man. I could see. Like, how far as your, like, seven iron go? Dude, seven, actually, I just had that seven iron. And so I had it about one, about 180, 200 with the seven iron. What's your game at right now? I feel like we haven't gotten that.

Like, what's your, do you keep a handicap or are you just going out there and trying to get as low as possible? Like, I'm just consistent like 90. I'll be probably about 90. And on a good day, I'm an 85 net. that's the best you want to get out of me because I mean my pudding is not that good and every once in a while when one of those crazy drives you know I got to find a drop somewhere right it adds up quick yeah real quick real quick what's the status down there with

golf courses can you play right now can you play right now with everything going on yeah some of the golf courses are open it's like when you go in and you drive up to the golf course and you got your clubs and they're all walking no golf parts so you did just you sign up online they come in and know you come in and you just start walking and you just start playing as long as they have your money before you even get there they think they're good and uh some of the uh driving ranges too all of the driving ranges are open and because they're so spaced out so that's pretty good yeah that's not bad it's crazy to me that like you lived such a like fast lane like rushing offenses type life. Like you're in these football stadiums. You're banging against guys. You're throwing

bows. And then now like now you're so removed from that and you're on like you're in like serenity on a golf course like as much as you can. Like what about like that like juxtaposition. Like do you love like the total opposite of it right now? Like like were you done with that? Were you done with the hectic like madness? And now you're out there with like the trees and the birds and hitting a golf ball around a grass. You know what's so crazy man? I find as much serenity. when I played than I am. I'm actually more busy now

because I probably have about three or four interviews a day. I would have to usually do a lot of video stuff but that's more of a mental challenge for me. So that's been, that's different than a physical challenge like football. Football is like my oasis to where I didn't have to think. I just had to go, you know, beat people up

and, you know, sack the quarterback. It was all about technique and preparation, but it was a different type of preparation. And, but now it's like surrendering. I had that, fast life. And now it's like, relax, chill, competing business, do some business things. And I've been doing a lot of stuff in fitness, too. And I'm building fitness programs, but I know there's a lot of people out there that's trying to get fit and healthy.

So I know I performed in a way to where I was a small guy for my position, but I accomplished big thing. So I want them to do the same thing in their lives. How do you feel about the elliptical for fitness? We got our buddy. Oh, I like that. Huge. Yeah. Huge elliptical. My knees, my knees and my ankles are so bad. and had three back surgery. So the lip-up machine, good. You can do some good interval training on there. You add some dumbbells to that, bands, and you're good.

I promise you, you're good. Hell yeah. No, that's the best. You should talk about back surgeries. What do you think about our guy, Tiger Woods, being able to be at the top of his game after multiple back injuries and surgeries? That's straight dedication because I remember after my first back surgery, I couldn't even walk, and I had another back surgery after that just to be able to walk.

and him actually coming back to golf knowing how you've got to be so consistent in your swing and you're having back surgery, meaning that you probably could have mechanical problems after that, and he comes back and he wins. And then he wins again. That's like the total definition of a champion saying that, hey, I'm not going to let what happens in my life

change who I really am. And it was a cool thing to see. I love that. I just love talking. I'm sorry, I love talking about Tiger Woods. Any interview we can. Dude, he's a beast, dude. I just love talking about him.

Frankie heard back surgery. It was like, we can talk about it. Yeah, we can fit that. The Marcus had three of them, but we can talk about tigers. You said that you said you're doing fitness stuff. So I'm quarantined in New York City right now. I can't go outside, really. I can't do anything.

What's like one thing I can do a day so I don't come out of this, just a gigantic human being? The thing is, man, I mean, watch your calories and what you eat. I mean, I get at home. And sometimes what makes me feel good is eating in cakes and them pies and all the sweet stuff. Stay away from the sweet stuff. The thing is, like, do a little bit more active stuff, body weight. You know, body weight exercises.

If it's, you know, body weight squats, lunges, I mean, you can do pushups. There are so many exercises with high tempo. Make sure the majority of all this stuff is high, tempo, low impact. And if you are doing or still trying to keep your muscle, do more time on attention stuff. like go slower like doing a not a fast pushup but down for three up for one down for three up for one that then that makes it creates more time on attention for your muscles and when you do that that also builds that that endurance and get you get your right for sure okay I do all that and then eliminate the one bag of uh of sour patch kids you eat tonight I was going to say you'll be

everything might be shut down in New York City, but insomnia cookie is still delivering. And that's a problem. I had a Pazuki last night. That's chocolate, chocolate and vanilla ice cream with a hot cookie in this pan. Dude, I might get that tonight. He's looking at it. We're doing some dirty talk on four playing out. Now we're talking dirty.

I'm going to do three push-ups, and I'm going to order whatever DeMarcus is talking about. There you go. There you go. All right, DeMarcus Ware. Well, look, we finally figured out the connection. We started in the golf simulator, which, again, if you're going to do a golf podcast, a great way to start. And we'll have to get out. We'll have to try to play sometimes. Hey, for sure.

Let me know, man. You know where, man. I'm in Texas. So come holler at me. We've got to get down. We haven't really played much golf in Texas. Yeah, come on down. Hey, the part five's a huge. You know, you know, you're being in Texas.

I don't know if I need any bigger part. five's but we'll look out and check it out Super Bowl champ and now he's got the golf bug demarcus wear thanks again for the time man all right peace out fellas take care thanks man thanks all right