Fore Play - Masters Recap — Hideki Matsuyama Wins For Japan

Episode Date: April 12, 2021

Instant Masters reactions. Hideki wins as things tightened down the stretch. Augusta shined with great conditions. Xander came up short under pressure again. Zach Johnson looks like an astronaut. Bill...y Horschel is a lunatic. Spieth and Greller made things interesting. Bryson hasn’t figured out Augusta. Much more. Full 2021 Masters recap.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I present right barstool sports. We have just finished up the 2021 Masters Tournament, Hadeki Matsuyama. We're watching him on TV. He's in Butler Cabin. A huge win for, obviously, Japan. He's been under intense pressure.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I know we talked a few years ago. I think it was after the 2017 PGA championship, which JT won. there's an awesome article, which I'm going to try to pull up and tweet out, but about how some journalists kind of found Hadeki after that round. He was in the lead. He had a really good chance to win that week. Kind of like, I believe he was kind of doubled over or kneeling behind like a grandstand, just trying to get away from all the press and all the pressure.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Very emotional guy. He deals with an insane amount of pressure. He is, I believe, the second biggest star in all of Japan. He's just a mega star over there. He has a huge press pool that follows him all the time. And he just won the master's sermon. And who's number one, Shohay Otani? I believe so.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah. I believe that's what they were talking about. I think it was on live from where they were kind of going through that. And they were saying, people don't understand that they are such a media-driven, especially around their celebrity stars that play overseas and play in America culture and that they, like, worship him. And he has an insane amount of pressure. He's kind of just a quiet guy that wants to go through it.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I'm watching him put on the green jacket right now, and it's awesome. But amazing performance. His kind of back nine on Saturday after the rain. rain delay will always be remembered he was six under through the last eight holes took over the golf tournament and here we are hadaki matziamas the 2021 master's champ we got a lot to get to ton to get to man this has been a very very fun week lots of ups and downs um i have a little bit of a voice issue going on right now your voice is the crack you know i i've said some shit on riggs's throat before and i you know that's come back to you said i have a weak voice right and you know my throat
Starting point is 00:01:56 has let me down this week. But what didn't let us down was the golf course. Augusta National was out in full force this week. Carnage. We saw a lot of it. The greens were glass. Back to being in April. I mean, honestly.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah, April's huge for us. I also thought Augusta had a clear agenda day one. Like we heard all week that the course was firm and fast. And you don't really get to see it. Like as a fan Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Like there's not much footage of like balls bouncing or whatever that Thursday when we came out I mean kids even made the comment after like I feel bad for anyone who's first masters it is that that played in November for the first time because they don't know what the hell they're doing today it was firm
Starting point is 00:02:39 fast scores were brutal rose went low but other than that the course just dominated people I think Augusta was out for like hey that one off in November thing was cute but I don't want you guys to get comfortable with that we got used to it we got used to it as the week went on but Thursday seeing those greens they were brown we were like one of What is happening? Well, Kiz made a comment, too. I mean, he, I think alluded to the fact that he played the best, or he struck the ball better than he has in a long time.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And he was like, yeah, just to hit a green spot or a brown spot from 180 yards is difficult. And it has a different bounce, depending on where it hits. Yeah, I thought that was one of the only comments I saw that seemed almost like he was saying. It was almost unfair kind of that way. Not unfair, but just like, you need good luck. But he backed it up by saying, like, I hope it plays like this the whole week. He loved it. So that did kind of come off a little bit to me.
Starting point is 00:03:25 of like you got to hit a random bouncy spot. And it was weird as a viewer to see it because we're used to just perfectly green. And I do think there's, you know, Phil made some pretty aggressive comments in his presser leading up to the tournament about like,
Starting point is 00:03:40 yeah, it's been a decade or so since we've seen it like this. I wish we had course conditions like this. He started talking about angles and all the bullshit. And I think that like one of my theories, I think a lot of other people's theories is that like Augusta wants it to present green.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Right? Like they care what it looks. like on TV down to everybody hears about they spray paint stuff they fucking put dye in the water like they wanted to look perfect on TV and so do we but when you get it firm and fast it doesn't look perfect on TV the greens look like they're brown even though they're just like not we had people tweeting at us that were at the tournament that were that were patrons almost called them spectators that were patrons they were like it doesn't look like that in person it just kind of looks like that on TV but once we got over that I think you're right frankie but like day
Starting point is 00:04:21 two I didn't even notice it I wonder how much of this we're seeing now as a years ago on like different like little details in augusta because of these 8k cameras the crazy camera angles the drone shots like who knows what the course looked like in 1985 because it was this like 420p right you had two cameras out two cameras out there you didn't have guys point them where you want them now there's cameras everywhere cameras in the trees yeah cameras in the trees so i do i do contribute a lot of that to just advancements and to advancements in technology advancements in tech man advancements is a weird word advancements in technology
Starting point is 00:04:56 feels like your voice is barely holding on. No, it's actually good. If I really try and I talk like this, I'm going to be fine. I'm going to be perfectly fine. Okay. You sound nice there. Well, and since the podcast behind the Greens master stories where people said that they have put cameras
Starting point is 00:05:12 all around against the National, I think a couple people have tweeted out as pictures of it and it is like no joke, surveillance, big brother type cameras. They are. It has nothing to do with the broadcast, but I just, it's, it's crazy to think how many cameras are out there. Cameras, man.
Starting point is 00:05:27 We live in a camera, heavily populated camera society and world these days. That'd be interesting. How many cameras do you think are at Augusta? Total or that are contributing to the broadcast? Total. Over a thousand? Oh, I mean, it's got to be under a thousand.
Starting point is 00:05:43 There's only 18 holes. But inside, outside, all the like maintenance shed. Surveillance. Right. I'd be comfortable saying there's 200 cameras. That's the exact number I had my head. I was right around there too. How could a secure,
Starting point is 00:05:55 security guard or team even manage more than 200 cameras. Motion detectors? I know, but that's just insane. I don't even think a mall like has 200 fucking security cameras. I would like to know. I would tell me over on 200. Really? All those stores and banks and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, okay. I would pound me over on 200. You would, really. I wish we can get the answer to this. Me too. We're not counting like cell phones that are improper. No, no, no, no. Cameras on them.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Okay. Because I know you could get into a weird spot. Masters just ended. What's our instant reaction to Hadecki, uh, That's a Yamma winning. Well, my first reaction is I love in Owens' transfusion. There we go. One of my main key reactions.
Starting point is 00:06:30 We had a bunch this weekend. Anyone who followed along the live stream, we very much appreciate it. And we saw a lot of folks getting in and dabbling and all the reviews are extremely, extremely positive. Owen's getting into way more stores now, by the way. Kroger's, which is a huge thing, Publix, which is all over in Florida. What do you point out right now? That TV said Kroger as soon as you said. Come on.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Just so you know, I didn't even see that. You said Kroger and it popped up to the point where I thought you saw it. and remember. And it like triggered my brain. Right. Wow. That's pretty cool. Public's awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Publix, I think I've said this on the podcast, but they definitely made their name with that X or the, or the ass at the end because old people add that to where they're going anyway. Walmarts, Chipotle's, Bar Spice. You think that was a strategy. And just public. It's just easy to stay for older people and older people live in Florida. You know what? That's true because do you have like older family members and stuff that call it bar stools?
Starting point is 00:07:23 100%. Yeah. You do have that. I've got family members that call it Barnes and Nobles. Exactly. They call Barstool? Barstools. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They say Barnes and Noble as Barnes and Nobles. Oh, that was just another example. I'm sorry if that was confusing. But Barstools is a huge one. Barstools is very funny. My dad does that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Right. That's an older person move. You're right. You're right. You're right not honest. Like them calling it public would all would already be changed to public. So good on them and also good on them. Good on them for having transfusions.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Uh, Lurge, what's your one? What's one of your face? favorite drinks. Paloma. Oh, interesting. You know what that is? Tell me about it. You sure?
Starting point is 00:08:00 You want to know? Yeah. It's a little grapefruit. Okay. Okay. A little tequila. Add a little salsa in there. Little lime.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Ooh, boy, is that good. Well, Owens is taken care of that. They've got a great mix of it. Fill up the glass is a lot of little stuff. Hmm? Do you get to the top of the glass with all that little stuff? Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:08:16 What do you, well, nothing is significant in that drink? Do you think just because there's little stuff, you can't fill up a glass? Well, my question is nothing like, there's not one significant. Well, seltzer could be a huge ingredient. Okay. So I would say, I would say equal barred tequila,
Starting point is 00:08:31 Seltzer, splash of grapefruit, little lime. There you go. Now, you're talking like a bartender. Which the grapefruit lime mixer from Owens covers all that. Exactly. And you're in a great spot. So anyways, you go to Amazon, you get Owens. You can go to Owensmixtures.com.
Starting point is 00:08:45 You can go to store. com and you can check the store locators on their website if you'd like. Go check out some Owens. It's great. My reaction to Hadeki winning. I would say I was a little bit more moved at the end than I thought I was going to be. When he was like tearing up a little bit, the video that's going viral right now is his caddy, taking off his hat, grabbing the flag from the pin, putting the pin back in on 18 and then bowing to the golf course.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I mean, if that's not symbolic of kind of Japanese culture and them getting a W at Augusta National, that was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. And it's just ultimate respect. It's just like, you know, my naive, I'm like, yeah, August is a religious experience. but that is just, I think in their old culture, it's just a respect factor of, like, this course has my full undivided attention. I appreciate every moment out here,
Starting point is 00:09:32 which I think is so damn cool. Let me ask you, if you played Augustine, I would you do anything similar to that at any point during the round or after the round, or maybe you take your hat off and, like, look at the course as, like, a thank you or any, like sometimes if you go on, like, a really cool trip or something, at the end of the trip after everybody's packed up,
Starting point is 00:09:51 and people could, sometimes you'll kind of walk around, I'd do one last lap around like the really cool spot and just kind of look and soak it up and be like, this was fucking awesome. So I'm wondering if you would think about doing anything of that when you played Augusta? I wouldn't do anything different, but like I would try to soak it in as much I could, but that's to me. You know, everybody's different in terms of how, you know, he soaks it up, a deck he's catty and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But to me, no, I mean, you guys make fun of me because sometimes I'd blink if I try to snap a mental image of, you know, the picture. Jim and Pam. Right. Like if I was on the 13th, I'd blink a pretty. your time. I mean, it did look like a painting today. We'd comment on that, but I would do nothing different. I would still try to soak it in as much as possible, honestly, you know, because it's just a once in a lifetime experience, but no, I don't think I'd bow or anything, Trent. You know how
Starting point is 00:10:35 senior college basketball players, and they come off the floor for the last time, they kiss the floor? I might kiss the 18th green. I might plant a big old wet one on the 18th green. What's wrong with that? Is there anything wrong? I think there's nothing wrong with them. Nothing. I love it. I thought people might be weirded out by wanting to kiss the ground. You think they replaced divvets there or no At Augusta? Yeah Or they just come back with seed
Starting point is 00:10:57 Only reason I add Well I want your answer So we've been now Luckily we've been like chirped and yelled at enough On the end to realize that There is a difference based on like grass And where the climate and stuff that you're in
Starting point is 00:11:14 Whether you just are supposed to reseed it Whether a car sounds horrible Whether you're supposed to reseed it Whether you're supposed to replace a divvit or yourself or sometimes you're supposed to do nothing and like the ground screw goes out and fills them with their own special stuff at the end I will say I don't I think at a gust they receipt I don't think it's a filling I think that you so yeah I can't think of any examples in my head quickly of caddies and players running up grabbing the divot running back and putting it in no
Starting point is 00:11:43 I feel like you see that when they're doing it so the reason I say that is if I took one of my lurchy divvets that's a shovel would I be able to keep that little patch of grass and take it home because I would love to take that home. Let me say this. You can make your own judgment based on this. I'm going to say this is going to make us all think, no, you can't. But a good number of the emails that we got for the submissions that I read through about Augusta stories, maybe two or three of them were, hey, my buddy went and played Augusta as a guest.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Got a whole and won. Augusta said afterwards, congratulations, it's amazing. You know, we're going to get a photograph of it, of the situation. And what they did was like everybody, one person, I believe, is usually allowed to have a phone or a camera. People take pictures throughout. You can't share them anywhere, but you have them for your own personal use. So people take photos, whether it's like they're shot after on the tee or them getting the ball out of the hole or whatever. And then Augusta took one of those photos.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And again, there are multiple stories of this, and said, we're going to get this all framed up, Augusta, fie it, whatever, and like, send it to you. Great. It said it took a couple months, and then they got a painting of it, not an actual photo, but a painting of it. And the envelope and information that came with it said,
Starting point is 00:13:04 we invite you to keep this painting, but here's what it's going to cost. And the invoice for it was like 50 grand. No way. And both parties said, and again, this was a, multiple emails said that the buddy, the person, the guest, like, thought about it for weeks and was like, that's an amazing amount of money. Like, I don't know what to do, but that both of them
Starting point is 00:13:29 ultimately were like, it sucks and it's hard, but I'm going to do it. Like, that means the world to me. Paid the 50K for the painting. Augusta then responded to that by inviting both of them to be members of the club because they proved how much it meant to them to get an ace at Augusta National. No way. This was two completely separate emails. I'm speechless. So it's just a fucking game they're playing? So my point to bring it back is like if you think you can just sneak out of there with a little divot from you?
Starting point is 00:14:03 I don't know. I think it's a no. I think it's a no. You see me like sneak a divot into my bag and I just. And we have talked to enough people who have played Augusta now that somebody would have mentioned that they took one of their divvits. That they were like, oh, and I also at my house under like a glass case. I have one of my divvets. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Mental games, they're playing. What I mean? Well, they, who wasn't for the longest time? Who wanted to be a member there? And that was the reason why they didn't allow them to be a member. Was it Bill Gates? Yeah, so if you're so desperate to be a member at Augusta National, they're like, we don't want you. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:34 If they're like poking around and you're begging, they're like, you're not our kind of guy. It's all head game. What the hell's happening in that, in that board room at Augusta National? These guys are just chuckling, like, how they can, like, how they can fuck with people's brains as much as they possibly can. Well, they've got everybody by the ball. Oh, yeah. It's a place that everyone wants to go.
Starting point is 00:14:49 It's a place that everybody wants to be a member at so they can do whatever they want with their membership. Yeah, it's a rare piece of America that's actually international waters, as we've said. Yeah. Where they can do whatever they want at Augustus. Whatever they know. You also have to be in a place where you can spend 50 grand on a painting where you think you're getting a picture of your whole and want. But the point. So like the let down, the excitement.
Starting point is 00:15:10 That was kind of the point that was like both these guys, you know, the people sending it in was like, these guys aren't guys that could just spend 50K on a paint. Like, you can't, who can do that? Right. Nobody could do that. I also like that Augusta also sort of treats itself like a courtroom where cameras aren't allowed in, where things that happen are sometimes turned into paintings. Like, it's making me think about, it's making me think about the Tom Brady picture where it's like, obviously, hopefully the Augusta painters are better than that. But they view their grounds as so sacred that cameras sometimes aren't even allowed to capture what's going on. We just watch it in 8K for like seven straight days on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Like, we know what the golf course looks like. Yeah. And they were like, no, we're not even going to put this photograph into a frame, which is all you wanted. We're going to now commission our own painting, send it to you and force you to buy it. That is next level mind games. It is. But it also makes me love it even more. Would you pay 50 grand for a whole and one?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Now that I know the story that there's like. Knowing that you won't become a member after, one and done. I'm just not in a spot to spend 50 grand. No. It's just a non. It's not even a talking point. But like, if I had that. And 50 grand was a check that I could write and feel no pain from.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Then maybe I could get myself to do it. But I don't think that was the case. Anybody would if they couldn't feel pain. So you think the people that you went back and forth. I know they said this. They were like, I could not just spend 50 cash. Oh,
Starting point is 00:16:32 Oh, they said that. Oh, they were like that's why I was an uncomfortable amount of money. And how to become a member. Well, I don't think it's that crazy once you're a member. I think it's really old school. It's like how they have dollar 50 pimento cheese sandwich.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Right, right. Right. Holy shit. Wow. But don't they send you, like, don't you just get assessments that you're just ready? Like, you don't know how much they're going to be and they just hit your household. I would assume, again, in these situations, like, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I don't know if it's like to be a member of a guy. The other story was that they, um, the, what they kicked two people out for a reason I can't remember now from behind the Greens episode. And because, but when you, the way, the way you find out is they just don't send you your fees every year. Yeah. It just stopped. It just stops. It just stopped. Evans.
Starting point is 00:17:11 In January, you hit them up in February. Like, I never, in January, I just never got like my bill. And they're like, they're like, they just go radio silent. They ghost you. We just remove the problem. Office space. We fix the glitch. We fix the glitch.
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Starting point is 00:20:39 It was, I would say, five and a half feet under. It had, you know, seven out of the eight nails were in the coffin. And then all of a sudden, Hideki hits a four iron or whatever from 2.35, over the green on 15. into the water. Zander almost holds out for Eagle, makes birdie. We got a two shots tournament, two shot swing. Stand up on 16T. Zander hits it in the water and makes fucking triple.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Devastating. If you go back to the Masters Preview podcast, I had two picks. I had Colin Morcala and I had Zander Shoffley. And I felt really good about Zander going into Sunday. I tweeted about Zander Day. I tweeted about it a million times. I really felt like he had a really good chance, even though it felt like Hadeki, even at the start of Sunday,
Starting point is 00:21:19 had a pretty good lead on everybody. But that never, you know, ends up being the case for the whole day. And then after the first hole, Hadeki makes bogey. And for 15 minutes, it's a one-stroke lead for Hideke. So I felt really good about Zander the whole day. And then on 15, I obviously felt fantastic. He had a great bunker shot. he made birdie
Starting point is 00:21:38 I just don't know what happened on 16 I really don't even know what happened I think we got to catch a little bit of him talking to Ballionis post round he didn't really talk to the shot or at least the part that we saw he's talking a lot about scar tissue about how he keeps coming up short in big tournaments but man he just needed a good shot there
Starting point is 00:21:58 and he didn't he put it in the water and that's the last thing you can do on a whole where a lot of people hit good shots like the you know we were gambling all week on the Barstville sports book and we were taking Greens regulation and birdies And like the odds for people to make birdie on 16 were almost a pickum because it was such a birdie hole, such a gull. And for him to be playing that well, he birdied four holes in a row to get himself back in the tournament, showed a ton of guts. And then they hit that shot.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You know, Dottie, I think said it hit a wall of wind. I love the way they say Dottie. All different types of, of, of, uh, mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, like that. Frankie just froze. He just didn't have it. Yeah. accents.
Starting point is 00:22:36 accents. We got too many TV's out in front of me. I'm like, it's just, I'm like a little baby that just like see something. Oh, all these different accents, the way they say Doddy, it's amazing. I've mentioned this before, but Doddy Pepper is one of the people who has me blocked on Twitter. What? I wonder what you said. For no reason.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I'm pretty sure I've never tweeted about, I definitely have not tweeted at her. Maybe I maybe I tweeted. She just finds you repulsive. Yeah, she finds my, me, my face, my commentary, my body, just everything about me. She's repulsifying. She's like, that's a block. you come up on her on her t-l and she's just like uh never again just never a block gone i don't know what the reason is block too you're permanently dead to her dead you're gone she can't even see anything
Starting point is 00:23:18 that you're associated with do you guys ever block people yeah i'll block someone like here and there i will too i will mostly um based upon dms only almost like if you if you send me personally a malicious message that to me grounds for you're just gone you well i think you're like blocked was my friend It's it. I just blocked my buddy. You didn't want him to see anything? No, we kind of just go back and forth, but that's the only person I've never wanted. I don't get it. That's like a joke?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. Oh, okay. I've never blocked anyone on Twitter because I don't like giving people the satisfaction like that. I mute everybody. Well, that's a peat thing that trolls and people listening and all these people that want to like get under our fucking skin. The mute button, they don't understand that we just don't see what they said. I have thousands of people who do not like me on Twitter screaming into the abyss. The only time I just don't see those people.
Starting point is 00:24:05 They just have no clue that you don't see it. They have no clue that the mute button's a thing. And that's amazing. I've got, I've probably got guys that have been ragging on me for seven years. And they just think that it eats away at me every time. And it doesn't. I just,
Starting point is 00:24:17 I just, there's no way to see it. We can't even go in and look. So I'll do that. But then also, I'll block someone that, like, I noticed that they made an account just to shit with shit on us, right?
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah. So it's like a brand new account. Because that's not a real account. And I'm just like, like, just like, just as Lurch says, whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Just fucking. Who cares? You're out of here. You're out of here. It does feel like you're out of here. And I will say, I don't completely buy into the like if somebody blocks you, if you block somebody, you're giving them the satisfaction of like, because I think that person is devastated. They just like, they don't even have the option to see anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:48 They're gone. Yeah, that's the punishment, right? You no longer get to consume my Twitter content. Right. But it seems like these, the people that I would block but don't and mute instead, they, they just hate me. The mute, I would say on Twitter, the mute is, is the go-to. It's mostly on Instagram. if I notice someone, if they send me a malicious thing,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and I'll occasionally click on, like, go through D. I try to respond to people, especially like they send nice messages, wherever, try to respond to people sometimes. And like, if they have a string of just sending malicious stuff, in my head, I add it up. And I almost like when the NHL player safety, when they're like based on, you know, player history. I'm like, you're out of here.
Starting point is 00:25:26 This is a permanent suspension. You're blocked. Not to interrupt the Twitter conversation, but Tiger Woods has tweeted, making Japan proud Hideki congratulations on such oh my phone went dark such a huge accomplishment for you and your country this historical at the master's win
Starting point is 00:25:40 will impact the entire golf world so I saw that and again happy that Tiger is able to in a place where he's watching the Masters tweet out his thoughts a thing related to us that we have to address is Tiger tweeted out last week
Starting point is 00:25:57 another blue background statement that was one the LA County Sheriff came out and said that their investigation had concluded. Is that right? Are we down to four now? I think we said five. That's right. We put a number on it.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Until he like this. I mean, this one has been. This one's the conclusion of a really dark time in his life. And then so the next one of, of that we're going to get from Tiger, I would imagine that's like that is what would it be? It's not going to be any more like this thing feels done now. This first tournament back.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Right. That's, that was my thought. I, I think we could see another related to this. Because stuff has leaked since then. To the what? To the accident. Okay. The speeding?
Starting point is 00:26:38 One more, do you think? Stuff is leaked. Like, there was the, um, right after we published the podcast, it leaked that there was like an unlabeled pill bottle and that he was like combative with authorities when he immediately upon, which like he was in shock. So who, and it was like New York Post. I missed those two pieces. But the one piece that I did see was that when asked, where are you?
Starting point is 00:27:01 He said Florida. I saw that. Which is now the opposite. It's the flip of the Jupiter. When he was in Florida, they asked him where he was and he said Southern California. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Which, again, I think is very defensive by like he was in shock. His car just flipped over three times going 85 miles an hour. But my point is that I'm not saying he's going to tweet. I wouldn't be stunned if we got another blue background tweet maybe to put a real, put a real nail on this whole thing
Starting point is 00:27:29 and try to put it to bed. You could be right. I'm hoping now we've, we've gotten. past all of this and the next few tweets are going to be ones like the Hideki one and then also this is looking a little bit more in the future
Starting point is 00:27:40 him putting up a video of him chippin or him hitting cups. Because last time I remember he did like a simulator shot right and we were like ooh and then he just ripped a driver he had like the Sunday red on he just posted a driver swing and we were like oh man do you think he's going to build back up to it that way? Yeah I think it'll be a similar progression
Starting point is 00:27:57 I will say if we get more than one blue background tweet we're in a bad spot. Right if we hit Two before a tournament it's over. Something's up. One is the max he can have before he plays again. Really? Two's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Trying to think about things related. What could come out in two more of these blue background tweets? I'm trying to think about things related to his life that would constitute a blue background tweet. And it's been sneaky. He kind of hits you with it sometimes out of the clouds with something that you don't think of. Maybe the passing of someone with his mom. True. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What? I'm just saying. Jesus. He said passing his someone. I said someone with his mom and I get the G. Oh, I thought you were saying. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:42 I think he thought you were saying in relation to mine. Oh, no, I just, Sunday night, man, we just watched the matches. I will say these don't count.
Starting point is 00:28:51 These just, no, no, no, because I can see them. I literally read that off in my front screen. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So I know what it's said. That's safe. Anyways, I'm glad that he's out there tweeting. It did, I do think we're down into the very low single digits. You're right. on Blue Background tweets from Tiger before one of them could be a problem,
Starting point is 00:29:07 a real problem. Because we were saying that it's a countdown to the retirement one. Right. Do you think, do you think we're in a position now, based on everything that's come out and like the stories about from Rory and JT about visiting Tiger, are you in a position now where you think it's significantly more likely
Starting point is 00:29:27 that he will play again than you were within the weeks after the accident? Yes. Yeah, totally. Okay. Me too. You're more confident that he'll play now than you were weeks after? Yes. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Really? Yeah. Tell me why. We didn't even know if he was going to get out of the hospital like. Right, but nobody's seen like he could be in a wheelchair. Maybe he's tweeting about golf. It's like he's moved up. Like his life is now progressing.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Right. The week after, we hadn't heard from him. We hadn't even seen anything. He very easily could have been radio silent this whole time. And then things, you're like, what's going on? The Masters is going on. And he hasn't said anything. All these things are happening in the golf.
Starting point is 00:30:03 off world and he still hasn't said anything. Right. What's going on? Now that we know he's conversational, it sounds like the conversations he's had with Justin Thomas and. True. And Roy are pretty light. What has had in the last couple weeks?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Like, where is he? That would make it worse than right after the accident. If anything, just because you hadn't seen him. But to transpoint him actually having conversations, the people is big. Like you tweeting stuff. It's like you can't tell him he's the person typing this information into his phone.
Starting point is 00:30:27 No, I think he is. I think he what? No, I agree with you, Riggs. I think ever since the accident, and the tweets that have come out, I think those are right off his fingers. Not the blue ones, but the real tweets.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Correct. Yeah, yeah, like the one about DJ, about like, I really wish I could run up DJ's tab. That's a dad joke that he would tell in the presser. Like,
Starting point is 00:30:46 what are you doing with my phone? That is, what are you doing with the microphone? So let me tell you. You kind of look like your rocks are ripping on stage. Right. You're just like, you just hit the note.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You're ready mercury up there's ripping. I'll tell you. It's like he's literally about to hit the high note. If I lay it flat, it doesn't get close enough to my face that I have to then lean forward and almost do an ab crunch the whole fucking show. Whereas if I just hold it at a tilt,
Starting point is 00:31:10 my arm's not strenuous and it's in the perfect place where I can just lounge and chill because if I lean forward, it's not a natural show. I have to look left, look right all day, backwards almost. Now I'm in a conversational pose. You're like sailing, like pitching out of a sailboat.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I'm just doing what's necessary to get the audio show done. Think about the tweets we were getting from Tiger before the accident. It was every couple weeks you'd get shout out to my TGR Foundation event. And it would. It would be that. And it was very much, it was very clear that it wasn't coming from him. These last tweets like the DJ one, like that Hedecki one that just came out, these all feel like a voice of an actual person. And I think they are coming from Tiger. I agree. And we'll never know, but I think so. And I, you know what? I would say next time when Tiger is, back and we're all out happy and kumbaya again um i think one of it i'm gonna ask robbie back i'm gonna say hey give me give me a little insider like how how many of those tweets is tiger actually tweet out i think he'll tell us i think so too i think he'll tell us i think i could see him like do you think he text those to somebody that puts them out or do you think he just he logs in and it's like you
Starting point is 00:32:23 know what i'm gonna fire off a tweet right now who who was the guy who would text them and then someone would put him out um celebrity i cannot think of who it was. Larry King? I think Larry King has a flip phone and then he would text. Had, I'm sorry. R-IP. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And then he would text someone. One of the best to ever do it, Larry King. Yeah, a lot of interviews. I'm jaded because cousin Mike and cousin Murray, who you and I once hosted a radio show with, they love him. They hated him. Well, they love to hate him, but they love to bring him up, I mean. They rest in peace again, but they thought he was a talentless hack.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah, but they love to just. Good for Twitter. I would argue that anyone that they hated, love because they're consumed with him. That's so true. You know what I'm saying? It's a little bit different. People probably don't know what we're talking about, cousin Mike, cousin Murray,
Starting point is 00:33:09 who we love very much. They're great people. Dave Portnoy's dad and then, you know, his dad's best friend, cousin Murray. And they're a great time. Trent and I have done shows of them for a long time. Anyways. Bringing it back to this tweet about Hadeki, this historical masters will impact the entire golf world is a very true statement.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh, yeah. It's been one of the main themes kind of this weekend, once had Kyi took over the tournament is you know in the women's game clearly we've seen it and like you know 10 15 years ago um Asian women coming out and and having a ton of success has now spawned a dominance in the game and it has led to a lot of tournaments going over there a lot more people playing it hasn't we haven't fully seen that in the men's game I think this is going to catapult that dramatically people are playing a lot of golf in Japan and it's like not like any of the four of us know all those stats, but again, watching the live from like those on golf channel that do that job,
Starting point is 00:34:06 pulling up a lot of the information about how big golf has become in Japan in the last several years and how Hadeki is like the face of that. And now him winning is going to lead to the tiger effect in a lot of the parts of the world that it hasn't had that effect. The same kind of effect that happened here is clearly going to happen, you know, over there. And in a lot of places where we don't know the culture, we don't pay attention much, It's very different. Language is different, whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:32 It's going to have a huge impact. Right. That's a regional winner. Like, when you think about golf, I feel like you think about Europe, the U.S., Australia, South Africa, and then. A little bit of Canada. A little bit, but like North America call it. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But this is just going to be a massive win. I mean, it's just going to be incredible. Right. Asia loves them. And there are so many people there. Insane amount. You know what's awesome, too? It's like you always love to see the first, right?
Starting point is 00:34:58 This is like, this is such a big accomplishment. for his culture and his people. Like you always like the first African American to win at Augusta National. And we saw Lee Elder on the tea box for the ceremonial first tea. Now you have the first Asian golfer to win at Augusta National. You love to see like guys breaking through, especially at a place like Augusta with all the history and all just like the bad stuff that's happened. Like having a guy walking to that fucking cabin and putting on a green jacket, it's just so huge
Starting point is 00:35:25 for just his people. And like they have to feel like, all right, we're like we're in there now. You know what I mean? Jim Nance made it the theme of his, you know, after he makes the final putt. Jim Nance is like, this is Japan's first winner at Augusta National. Like, that's a big fucking deal. It looked like he almost came out of like a blackout when he was putt. And then you talked about it in the beginning show, Riggs.
Starting point is 00:35:45 When he's walking up the hill, it's like he didn't know that he won the Masters. And then Frankie made a comment, he's still holding his putter. Like as he's walking into putt like his court court at. To Butler Cabin with his putter. Yeah, you could see the, it hit him. And then his facial reaction change almost with every. step as he moved up the hill to the cabin enter his court court i thought you could visually notice it too you could legit see the weight of it all kind of come off his shoulders and him enter almost like
Starting point is 00:36:11 in a celebratory phase and like the gallery was fistpuping him a little bit and and he was semi blacked out because he's carrying his fucking putter up to like the score it's a great call out by frame yeah that's awesome that is so cool and it did it was like moving a little bit you're like oh man pretty fucking crazy and this is getting deep and like serious but like you know in america right now there's a ton of Asian hate. It's all over the news right now. Asian American hate. Like they're getting fucking beaten up in the streets. They're getting like like murder rates are through the roof right now. People are legitimately pinning a coronavirus on them. It's insane. To watch a guy at a gut, like our biggest fucking thing of the year. And that's a Deke Matsuyama. Like how fucking cool is that
Starting point is 00:36:50 for his people now. I'd be like, yeah, fuck you guys. Your fucking white sport at Augustine National. Our fucking guy just fucking dominated. I love it. I just, I love like, groundbreaking. shit like that. I'm a big story guy. I like headlines. And I hate when the boring guy wins. I just fucking despise it. And the fact that Hideki Matsiyama is our champion this year is fucking awesome. And like hats off to him, his team, and everyone in fucking Japan probably going nuts at like
Starting point is 00:37:17 10 o'clock in the morning that he just won the fucking masters. I was going to say it's, how awesome. Dude, it's such a good point. And it's 8 o'clock at night here, you know, East Coast. And I cannot wait. Like, we finish this tonight to go and watch like video reaction. actions around Japan to see like the the headlines from the different papers and the segments that they have on the news of like what it means right because like we we pretty much have like one person to us a lot of the times as golf fans encompasses an entire nation of Japan that's it we just see one person right oh yeah that's just a exes like in matziana but that guy is legit representing like millions and millions if not billions of people that are like that's our fucking guy and he just won't. for them and seeing the fallout in a good way of like what this meant to those people is going
Starting point is 00:38:07 to like add such perspective they just send their guy over here right we have a fucking hundreds of guys in the field they just send their guy over here and he wins that's fucking awesome also has huge testicles because he went to the bunker of the second shot on 18 and that was a pretty scary moment for i'd say everyone well i asked i was we were all nervous watching it was very nerve-racking. Like, I asked you guys what your, like, instant reaction was. And for me, it's, it is amazing every time I watch Augusta or the Masters, obviously, um, how I just can't comprehend how guys are able to walk up 18 and get it done.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. And like, you know, a week goes by, whatever, you watch all the fucking footage of him hitting the last pot or hitting the, and you're like, that's just what guys do. But when you're in it, my instant reaction is always, how is he about to do this? Well, Riggs and I can't imagine, but I don't feel like that with any other. the tournament. Like maybe in the moment during the U.S. Open, during the open and all the stuff, I'm like, this guy's got to be super nervous. But something about 18 at Augusta, you're just like, there's no way he's even going to get the club face on the ball. There's no way. Well, Riggs and I
Starting point is 00:39:12 were saying with that third shot of the bunker, we'd sooner walk off the course and never finish our round before we'd climb into that bunker and try to win the Masters. Like, that's such a scary shot. Yes, it's the fact that there's all this buildup and conversation and press conferences and debates and podcasts about hitting golf shots. And then it all boils down to hitting one golf shot. And then there's actually a human on earth who was born from other humans, just like we were, who actually now has to step into that bunker and hit the golf shot.
Starting point is 00:39:42 He has to like literally physically move his limbs and then deliver a fucking club face into a sand bunker and hit a ball near a hole to win the master of all these people. Like that's like how does he not just pass out? Right. That is crazy. We watch so much golf and so much professional golf, and these guys are so good that it seems somewhat automatic, but we all play golf, right?
Starting point is 00:40:03 And we know how hard these shots actually are. And it can just happen where he hits a bad shot. Yeah. That can easily happen. Very, very possible. And obviously he didn't, he made it, he didn't make it up and down. But he did it. He won the Masters, but he could have just easily bladed it over the green.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And now it's a nightmare. And he would have been ridiculed forever, but I wouldn't have blamed him because it's like, dude, you lose, when you think. feel that much pressure, nothing is what it, what it otherwise is. You're not hitting a bunker shot.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You're actually just trying to control your arms and not, and not like fly the club into the air and kill somebody in the gallery because you just can't even like hold on to anything. You don't know what's going on. Right. And for him like, again, to like,
Starting point is 00:40:44 you know, Trent made a point where he's like, I can't believe he's about to like hit this shot where it's like, I couldn't even fathom being told, like my caddy would have to be like, dude, you have to get climb into that bunker. And you need to hit the shot. You have,
Starting point is 00:40:56 otherwise, like, We can't. The tournament's not going to end. It's possible for him to do what he did where he hits a great shot, two putts and he wins the Masters. Or it's also possible that he could throw up and pass out. And now we have to have a half hour before he can hit the ball because we got to wake up at Edeke Matsuyama.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He's like, who he gets back up. He's like, I'm going to need a fucking second over here. He's like, I apologize for doing that, but you guys got to understand this is an incredibly nerve-racking. This is crazy. But instead, he steps up, hits a shot and whatever. But, yeah, it's moments like that. And you're right, Frankie, that the master's, it's just a whole different level.
Starting point is 00:41:27 and, you know, he got it done. But like we were saying also, we were rooting for him in that moment. A couple of us had bets on Shoffley, a couple of us had bets on speed. Like, we had bets everywhere, but if the wheels were going to come off, we would have wanted it, quote, unquote,
Starting point is 00:41:40 to happen during 15 and 16, where it was like, that felt like a natural point where the tournament could slip away from a decky. You don't want it to be on 18 coming out of a bunker. That was going to be my question. What was a more nervy shot, you think, that chip on the other side of 15
Starting point is 00:41:54 after it just hit in the water? or that bunker shot on 18. I would say 15 for sure. Those shots behind 15. That was also, I think that's the first moment where it hit him of like, ooh, I could be doing the thing here. Right. I'm like, I could be, I just hit one in the water.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Everything was in total control. I had a four-shot lead. Now, like, I'm 30 yards over the green. I got a huge hill to go over. There's water on the other side. This motherfucker's about to make birdie. Like, what is going on? And Fowdo called it.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Fowdo was like, don't be a hero. Just like, don't try to land this on the green. If you try to land this on the green, you very much run the risk of putting it into the other water and now you are the guy who lost the tournament. Credit to him because we talk a lot about like how many times have we sort of immortalized almost like moments where people blew it or like we just like those are moments that get talked about forever and they get broken down of like Vandeville. It was like dude, why don't you should have six iron, six iron, six iron and win the tournament so easy. And he basically had actually ended up winning by a shot. he essentially did like whatever needed to be done to just win the golf tournament.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He like chipped it up short on that whole made bogey. Then like Xander went in the water on 16. So he like hit one a little right, made another bogey, but it's like that's fine. Then he ripped a couple T shots. He made a little bit of sloppy bogey on 18. But guess what? He didn't need to make barge. Just need to make bogey.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And he won the golf tournament. What are you going to say? No, I was just say that it's obviously a language barrier, especially for people in America, but like, which I'm assuming why they don't have mics all up on him with his caddy. but I would love to know how involved his caddy was going down 15, 16, 17, 18 to try and get him to like 15, what kind of conversation did they have? Did they have the Nick Faldo? Let's not be a hero here?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Or does Hideki make a lot of his own decisions? Like, we don't really know that relationship because we obviously don't know what the hell they're saying and we don't know like where his head's at in that moment. I would love to know where his head was that going at 15, 16, 17, 17, 18. Hedekhi did make points, though, where now he's got a Japanese coach. and so that might shed some light on the fact that he does take input in. You know what I mean? If you're going to take a coach,
Starting point is 00:43:58 then you probably will at least hear what your caddy has to say. And I'll even argue that you can add 12 into that mix of he's in the back bunker. Yeah, yeah. Chips it out, two putts, par or bogey rather than makes a four. And like, I think he executed 12, 15, and 18 perfectly. He had shots to give. He played arguably one of the best back nines Augusta's ever seen. on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah. And just, you know, and had some strokes to give. And he kept doing that and kept making bogeys and never made the big blowup and power to him because, I mean, exceptional weekend. Sometimes he's just got to take your medicine. You just don't want to overdo it. If you put yourself into a position like on 15 where let's make a bogey, let's not try to make a miracle par, then that's how you win a tournament.
Starting point is 00:44:44 It's the way if you try to be a hero and you go crazy, that's where you lose a tournament like that. And I remember, you know, two years ago when Tiger won of thinking after he flared, that, you know, approach shot on 18. And we're all like, okay, he can make a bogey here. You know, and he walked up and he's surveying it. And you're thinking like, okay, he's got like a 30 yard chip. Like Tiger can hit the green. But then it's like, dude, what was it?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Four years ago where he had the complete yips. And it's like if there was ever a time when the chipping yips would come out, it could be now. Like, all he has to do is catch this a groove thin or a groove heavy. And he's in the same spot. Now he has to get up and down. So like that, and he's got all these people watching. And they go down there and he clips one perfectly in the middle of green,
Starting point is 00:45:22 two putts, doesn't try to be here on wins the tournament. It's like, that's what it takes sometimes to just win. We don't give people enough credit. And like you were just saying Lurch that like it wasn't like he collapsed but didn't collapse fully so he was able to hang on. It's like no, he earned and built that lead and he gave himself that cushion. And the reason that he did that, like over 72 holes, he just played better than everybody else. We've seen eight, yeah, eight full rounds at Augustine Ashland, since Tiger made that shot.
Starting point is 00:45:46 We haven't seen as bad of a shot, a second shot in 18 since Tiger did that, I feel like. that flared out shot he hit on his 72nd hole at Augusta National was I still get the hebie G was thinking about him having to hit that off a tight lie up onto the green like I remember sitting there in 2019 being like there's no way he wins the tournament was that confirmed intentional or unintentional no he said he wiped it he's like I just completely we've never we haven't not seen a ball down there since now granted he knew you know I think he did say after you know that I knew I couldn't go left so I was just trying to cut one out to the right and I could always just make a bogey from there.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And he's like, but then I just totally like because he was a slightly blocked out. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But those moments, man, like those are now, almost no one ever talks about that or breaks it down because it's like, oh, yeah, Tiger just like won the tournament, not a problem. But it could easily be talked about forever. Like, oh, that guy blew it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And that's the most pressure a golfer has ever had after everything to win the masters again after all that time. Like that makes me like my skin crawl. So you think there was more pressure on Tiger to win than there was on Hadeki today? That's an interesting question. I would say way more on Heddeke today. A very different kind of pressure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I don't know, dude. Tiger's pretty scrutinized, man. I know, I know. He's calling Tiger Woods his win like the best win of his career. People are calling it all day during the broadcast. So best win, but more pressure. Like, do you think on Tiger or Hodecki? I mean, arguably, he's never going to get back there again.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like, you know what I mean? Like, I would like him standing over that ball in 2018. He has to get that thing up. It's also, I would say, tough for us to say because we know Tiger's pressure. Right. You don't, you can't really. That's a good point. There's no.
Starting point is 00:47:31 There's no. There's no. There's no. We're not over there, right? Like, maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. I don't know. But it's, they're both up there and him to get it done and both them to get it done.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Kind of in a similar-ish way where like they bogey the last hole. That's all they needed to do. It was just cool. It's really, really good for, the game globally. It's awesome to see someone get that kind of monkey off their back, win a major championship.
Starting point is 00:47:55 This is Hideki's sixth PGA Tour win. Interestingly, his other five, three of them were in a playoff, and then the other two were blowouts. He won by seven and he won by five. So it's like, he's just proven really to be clutch. Like, when he's had leads,
Starting point is 00:48:10 he builds on him and dust people. And when he's had it really tight and goes into a playoff, he just wins. His ball striking is incredible. Like, his hits at irons, miles in the air, I feel like. And then when he had to hit a towering high draw with his driver, he just did. And then going into today, I saw a stat where his scrambling percentage was 86%. Converting being off the green at 86% is a mind-boggling statistic.
Starting point is 00:48:34 At that place? He is to, he remains to be, and you know how good his ball striking is because, man, he fools you so much with his body, English body language after he hits a shot. It is never going to not happen because, like, there is a one to two second window as a fan where you just don't know. You have no idea where the ball's going. You only see the player's face and their body language. And when he misses duty, he doesn't miss by much. He had one today on 11 where it was like he looked rattled. He almost like he had a slight half like one-handed fin it.
Starting point is 00:49:06 301 right down the middle. There was a couple years ago where there was a stretch where he was doing it all the time. And you and I were very critical of it because it drives you crazy because you do try to judge the reactions of the guys and where you think the shot's going to land. And then you get shots like that and it lands, yeah, 301. It's a perfect drive. But we were also saying today that if Hedekhi Matsuyama is finally going to break through and win a major, it feels fitting that he's going to have a couple of these shots where he
Starting point is 00:49:29 hits it, reacts like it's the worst shot of all time and it's completely fine. So it's almost become endearing of Hedki Matsuyama when he does that, especially on a day like today. It's funny too because you, I mean, you guys are talking like Frankie and Trent especially today of how much you hate people that club twirl too much. Got to get rid of the twirl. And then Hideki's doing it on the other side of like, no, I hit a great shot twirl and Heddecki thinks every shot he's hit,
Starting point is 00:49:52 the worst shot he's like you could possibly hit in a situation. The twirl is a problem right now. And it's not, I don't want to get rid of the twirl every, like I'm not banning the twirl. I'm banning the usage of the twirl that like Jordan Speeth uses it. He fucking twirls every single iron. And when you're betting,
Starting point is 00:50:11 when you're on the Barstles Sportsbook app, and all you have is that one shot from like in front of him on the fairway. and they're just zooming in on his face and he gives you a twirl and then all of a sudden you see the next camera and it's flew the green and it's like not even close
Starting point is 00:50:23 you can't utilize the twirl there we have to use the twirl like tiger twirls where it's like holy fuck that guy just twirled and put the fucking sword in and now we go it's the best shot of the day
Starting point is 00:50:35 all we ask is that the reaction somewhat match the result of the ball they have to match somewhat because like it's the opposite like you're saying Matsuyama that doesn't match it at all a club twirl
Starting point is 00:50:46 with a world a ball that doesn't land on the green, that doesn't match the outcome of the ball. Like, we just need it. And I agree with you. The club twirl, it has to be a goddamn good shot. It's getting crazy now.
Starting point is 00:50:56 It's almost like, it's becoming borderline like somebody bat flipping and it being a fly out. Like warning track pop out. Right. It's like, we had that. We had that.
Starting point is 00:51:07 We're just to twirl a couple today that were horrible shot. They were like over the green. It's almost getting to the point where it's bat flipping, bat flipping on a ground out. Dude, on some of these. We're not even over. It's so bad. Everyone just watched the Masters for four days, and maybe you guys weren't watching as intently as we were on these twirls because we were like, I was living and dying responsibly on every single reaction of these guys to make sure that, like, we were betting birdie or better. And when these reproach shots are coming in, I need to know if that thing's hitting the green. These guys twirl and it's not just beef. They twirl every single iron. It's like, it's like, that's their follow through now. It's a twirl. And it's not all of them. It's not all of them, do.
Starting point is 00:51:45 No. Riggs made a good point where like Tiger Rips one, Stinger down like the fairway, you can twirl it because it's in the fair way he ripped it. My counterpoint to Trent was like Patrick Reed did it today on the third hole. He nipped it, twirled the club, thought it was perfect. Third green just impossible to hit it skipped off the back. Like do you really fault him for that?
Starting point is 00:52:05 Because he thought it was going to stop. Yes, because it has to be good. So the outcome has to match. It's like Swaggy P turning around on that three-pointer and put, it was the Swaggy P? Yeah. He put up the fucking threes and it's that famous giff and the ball just bounces off the fucking rim. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, it looked perfect until it wasn't. And I would say now, especially when we were gambling on it and gambling golf is going to continue to be huge, that we've, this week, I think, proved that the tracer is not that reliant. Like, it's just wrong a good amount of the time. So you're more, like the batter always knows, right? Like we say that all the time. Like a golfer, these guys, how good they are, their yardage. When they flush one and they know the, they just know. and so when they twirl, it usually almost always means it's a great result.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And we have a few people who are just getting a little bit too liberal now with their twirl usage. And it's infuriating as a fan, especially one who is monetarily invested in the outcome. Right. Yeah. My counter to what you were saying with Patrick Reed is that don't twirl as much if you don't know. You got to know. You just got to know. Reed spot there, since it's a super difficult spot, three green where the pin is on Sunday,
Starting point is 00:53:11 it's nearly impossible to hit. So don't twirl because you're not 100%. You might be 90% sure. Because you nipped it, but you, you're putting yourself out there if you're twirling. Or I would say this. When that happens, that should be a monumental Twitter moment
Starting point is 00:53:25 that we make fun of for a long time. Like this, like the Swipee, like that should be a thing. It happens like every hour of the company. Right. So Frankie's saying it's happening so much that we can't criticize all of that.
Starting point is 00:53:35 That should be a big thing. We're like, oh, we twirled. They always, these are tight. Oh my God. Look, we ended up.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And we make fun of it up. a while and it's kind of a funny moment. Instead, it just happens all the time. We're like, we're like immune to it now. It's taking away the good twirls too. Correct. A good twirl on a Tigerwood shot where he just stiffs like a four iron. Like I'm picturing a few shots of my head.
Starting point is 00:53:56 President's Cup one's huge. Yep, exactly. When he had the Argyle sweater on. Right. Oh, man. And Tiger takes a second to process it. It's just how easy. If you think about it.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Like he looks up. He does like a little lick of the lip and then twirls it in. And you're like, oh my God, this is going to end up on a highlight of the rest of my life. But instead, today, you're getting these fucking twirls and these, what's the word I've been looking for this whole podcast? I have no idea. When you put a sword in.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Sheath. A sheath. Sheath. Sheath. Sheath. Sheath. Like a reed. Sheath.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Hey, great sheath is a gladiator. Yeah. He's begging for help. And the guy steps up and go, sheath your swords. Sheat your sword. All right. Yeah. We're seeing she's.
Starting point is 00:54:37 You were looking for accent earlier. So I don't know what word you're like. And I don't even think accent work there. It's common. It's that pussy begs for hell. For Doddy, you were like different accents. It's just like they said it different. I don't even know what that word is.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Like a Faldo and a gym, Nance, they have different accents, right? That's true. But like everyone just saying Doddy in different ways. Their approach to the word was different. Yeah, and like Farity and all these like. Yeah, you got Farity. You've got Faldo.
Starting point is 00:54:58 You've got Nance all hitting Doddy with like just saying Doddy. You got everybody's with different. Three different ways to say in Dottie. It just throws you off. You mentioned kind of licking your lips earlier there. You know what makes me do that. Chef's Cut beef jerky
Starting point is 00:55:11 Oh I fucking I fucking love chefs cut Isn't it the best I'm not even kidding dude Your voice okay Yeah I'm well I got really excited about chefs cut Um Bit long
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Starting point is 00:55:29 Bill Tong They sent us this Bill Tong And it's basically Pursuit Like it's just It's chewy meat And they also sent
Starting point is 00:55:36 The Zero Sugar Bill Tong Beant B-I-L-T-O-N-J. Dude, it is the tastiest shit I've ever had in my entire life. I put that in my golf bag now, and I played golf. I played a rock-filling shot out of Rockville Lings. And I had Bill Tong in my bag.
Starting point is 00:55:49 And I was just like, oh, man, I'm a little hungry right now. I took it out of my golf bag. I ate it. I gave it to some people I was playing with. They're like, what is this? What is this chewy, salty, amazing meat I'm eating? And I'm like, it's Bill Tong. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Zero sugar, too. It was the zero sugar one. I thought it would be like diet meat. No, it wasn't no diet meat. It was fucking fantastic. Dude, chef's cut, shout out to you. I love beef jerky. They keep sending us these very nice
Starting point is 00:56:12 complimentary packages of beef jerky and I want to put it in my golf bag. There's no way it's making it to my golf bag. I just plow right through that stuff. The first time we had the ad read, I had already eaten all my chef's cut. They sent me more. And now that we are doing another ad read,
Starting point is 00:56:25 I've already consumed all the chef's cut that they sent me. It's just the best snack. It is. Beef jerky is the best snack and chef's cut is the best. And the golf course, man. You're out there for four or five, six hours sometimes you get out there early it's really difficult to plan when you're going to be hungry when you're not going to be you don't want to be like on a totally full stomach because you're
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Starting point is 00:57:13 Chefscut real jerky. com code is CC4Play. CC4Play 25% off. Chef's cut real jerky. com. Okay. Zander, like we talked about earlier, he did have some very,
Starting point is 00:57:28 because he's clearly getting the rap and we were talking, Frankie's talking about, like is he just a guy that can't close now? And he clearly knows that people are talking about that. So it'll be something that'll be fascinating to watch going forward.
Starting point is 00:57:38 This is now, you know, the second, third time that he's had a good chance to win the Masters tournament. Didn't get it done. Hopefully he doesn't have demons forever. He seems like a pretty cool cat, cool customer that can get over it. A lot of things to go over from the week. I'm going to kind of go back. Just generally rattle them off and we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Billy Horschell meltdowns. He's a lunatic. I mean, it's confirmed. Is he the craziest guy on tour? Yeah. I think it's pretty damn cool. Rory Sabatini's up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:03 That guy's a crazy person. Especially after what Spies said. Like we drove into him. He's like, that's the worst God Heard here, too. Thank God he kind of likes me. We joke around on the show. We tell jokes you try to make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We use hyperbole to make our points. Billy Horshiel is a legit psychopath. I'm not kidding. He's a real actual. Come he's a psychopat. That hurts so much more for him. He just is. The one clip that came out today of him,
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't even know what happened on the shot. All the video was was him. individually grabbing the clubs, seems like he set a couple words to each one and slam them back into the bag. For a guy who knows, well, there's clearly patrons out there, there's going to be cameras on him at some point,
Starting point is 00:58:47 and to still act like that, that is a psychopath. Legit. He's a problem. He's an absolute problem. He's aggressive. He's angry. He does sarcastic laughing.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That is a sign. When you're, like, maniacally sarcastically laughing, like clearly showcasing the world that you're so pissed off that you're trying to avoid. it by laughing. This is hilarious. I legitimately think Billy Horshiel is 100 times crazier than John Rom.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Dude, John Rom. He's not even close. John Rom is crazy on the golf course because he knows how good he is and how good he should be playing. And it's got to be incredibly frustrating when the golf ball doesn't go where you want it, when you're a guy with as much talent as John Rom. But when you're Billy Horshaw and you're just angry,
Starting point is 00:59:31 it doesn't matter if you were good at golf or if you were just an accountant at a normal job, I think he would be just a just. as angry as he is all the time now, and that is a scary proposition. He looks like a guy that could really hurt your feelings. You know, like he would just absolutely belittle you. He looks like a guy at a cookout when you have friends over who could very easily make things uncomfortable for everyone. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Or everyone's just sort of like, no, no, no, don't say anything. Just don't say anything. Oh, yeah. It'll pass. Don't worry about it. Like, that's Billy Horchell. Anytime you're going like, oh, Billy, Billy, Billy, but like, smirk smiling, you're, you're off the rock.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Like, you can't say your own. own name, smirk, smile, and like, be level-headed. It just doesn't. The slamming, oh, the slant, sorry, the Islander Ranger. He didn't tell people what that. Rangers almost got the second goal to tie up. I saw that net move, and I was like, oh, boy. Rangers almost just scored that.
Starting point is 01:00:21 That's with that noise. The slamming of the clubs was really just, you know, that, that solidified it. Because we had seen, you know, he's taking his shoes off every five seconds. He's walking around barefoot. He's walking through the creeks. He's like, he fell the day before. He fell the day before and, like, maniacally. laughed at everyone looking at him. It's just
Starting point is 01:00:38 and then when he started slamming those clubs in today in a tournament that he had no chance in winning or even coming close in, like, that was, that was all I needed to see. Yeah, he was the subject of a conversation a few weeks ago when he won the match play and we talked about
Starting point is 01:00:54 he's just not, he's just not very likable. It's like you couldn't really pinpoint it you know, it's not the worst. He just solidified it I think this week with a lot of the clips and that one slamming the clothes in the bag, which Again, a lot of people have been incredibly angry on the golf course and make jokes about I've been incredibly angry in the golf course. Like you said, for him to do that with everybody around, with people paying attention with patrons, with him in the masters, with him coming off a win two weeks ago and knowing cameras are everywhere, like, that just looked like a crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Right. I quote tweeted that video or I tweet video that or whatever. I put it out there being like, this is a real psychopath and everyone like beware if you're ever around Billy Horsal. And I had people respond and being like, I don't know what you mean. That's like a relatable golfer. He's just mad at his clubs. there's a very big difference between being mad and like a relatable terrible golfer and being a fucking crazy person and yelling at your clubs and slamming them. Billy Horshiel does not fall in the relatable category.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And in terms of the way he reacted after that shot. And if that was the only incident ever, it would be like a little more maybe like that plus all the other stuff plus like it's just been building up. It was like, okay, dude, plus the stuff at Chambers Bay when he was like doing the wave thing at the greens. He all pissed off about the greens. He was like maniacally laughing then like a crazy person even though he's pissed off. So I think it's all adding up to a very clear picture of Billy Horch.
Starting point is 01:02:13 He also seems unapproachable. Like you can't tell me that like you'd, if you walked up to him three different times, you get any consistency of self. Like he might say hi to you. He might like weirdly laugh at you and the other time he might lose it on you. I've also seen him multiple times tell quote unquote jokes to a reporter that only he laughs at. And that's a problem too. That's almost his best quality right there.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But that's with you. Like consistency of self, I think it's a great way to put Billy Horschel and he has none of that. None. None. You don't know who you're going to get. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I mean, he's a lunatic. Do your point when you're like, we try to make people laugh on the show and like you're setting up and, you know, he's just a complete lunatic. It feels like we're kind of burying Billy Horshiel here, but I think he deserves it.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, he did. His performance was a little tough. And look, we're trying to speak our minds and, like, beyond, I think we represent what a lot of golf fans see you. Like he's just not.
Starting point is 01:03:04 He just looks like a crazy person on the golf course. Another thing is the Nike outfits. Burtle. Two thumbs down. As many thumbs as we got in this room, all those thumbs are down. It wasn't all of them. Cameron Champ, I thought,
Starting point is 01:03:16 had a pretty good look going, especially today on Sunday. He was kind of like murdered out. He had his shirt was like faded a little bit. It was more specifically Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy Fleetwood never looked good. Tony Feetow had a couple horrific shirts where they had kind of the,
Starting point is 01:03:29 the just abstract like designs on the Nike. shirt and the hats and they looked awful. The joke going around with Fleetwood was that like clearly after he got the ace, um, that'll be played forever. He's going to be devastated that he was wearing that shirt the day that he got the ace. But then the next three days in a row, he came out in the same fucking shirt, basically, just different color.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It's a really weird pattern pattern from Nike. I don't know what it signifies. I don't know what it looks. I don't know what look they're trying to go with, but I mean, you're making your people look ridiculous. Right. I was saying that at some point when Tommy Fleetwood gets the email from Nike saying, here's their script for Masters Week.
Starting point is 01:04:05 He's got to stand up and just say, no. I'm not doing that. I'm Tommy Flewwood. I'm one of the best golfers in the world. I get to say yes or no to what outfits I'm going to be wearing at the biggest tournament of the year. And these outfits that you sent me, there are no. There are a no.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Just do that. Because what are they going to do? Be like, oh, you can't play? That's not how that works. They would just be like, all right, we'll put you in more outfits that are like Cameron champs. The fact that he knew what he was going to wear, it would be more believable that they sprung those outfits on him that week
Starting point is 01:04:33 or like every morning they were like this is what you're wearing he's like ah I got nothing else to wear you think he has no say in the approval process he has to have a say right yeah he's at some point he's got to be able to say no I'm not going to wear that thong that you want me to put on I know what I'm saying is like do is there any of this that we can
Starting point is 01:04:52 are we putting all of the blame on Nike or does some of it go on Tommy because not everyone was dressed like an asshole that was wearing Nike some guys look fine I think certainly it's I would say 50-50. Okay. He also might be just a super nice guy. Where he just accepts it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:11 He is a nice guy. I know he's a nice guy. He might just be like, yeah, I don't love these outfits, but I'll wear them. Right. The marketing person says, like, we'd like you to wear these. He's like, okay. The whole and one thing is a very great point. He's going to watch that forever and just be like, boy.
Starting point is 01:05:25 That wouldn't, that's not, that doesn't work in any era. The other Brooks Kepka, when he first came out on Thursday with his outfit, he had the aggressive pink hat along with the aggressive pink quarter zip, which actually didn't look like that terrible. But then he took off the quarter zip and like his whole outfit with the aggressive pink hat, not matching any of what he was wearing. He looked ridiculous as well. So it was him plus Tommy on day one and they looked preposterous.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yeah, Frankie and I were saying Brooks, the patterns on Brooks's shirt looks like the, the floaties that you see sometimes in the corner of your eye when you're like not focus on something and something floats by. Yeah. That's the pattern on Brooks's shirt. And that's not a good, that's not, it's not going to be compared to that in terms of fashion. No, it's bad. I gave a lot of shit to Jordan Spee for his outfit.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Under Armour just never can get it done correctly. They just always take a simple golf outfit and put one thing on there that it's almost worse than what Nike's doing because like it's a regular golf shirt that he had on Saturday was it? I think it was Friday. It was a regular golf shirt. And then they just put a line on his, a stripe on, on his arms, his sleeves. It just makes the whole thing look absolutely. absurd. So that was really bad. But then I think leader in the clubhouse for the worst outfits of the week was Victor Hovlin. Adam Scott. I thought you were going to say Adam Scott.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I don't know. Adam Scott's a bad color coordinator. But Victor Hovlin looked absolutely preposterous the whole week. I don't know what that thing was yesterday. It was a it was he was like he was wearing. Did you see the whole it went all the way down his chest? Yeah. And then the one before that he looked like he's wearing a newspaper. I mean, Victor Hovlin and here come the Rangers on three and two. Victor Hovlin by far was the worst dress at the, at the, at the, at the, at the entire time. But you know what I respect a little bit about him? No.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Those are gigantic swings. And this is. And misses. Sometimes you miss. Sometimes you hit him. And Tommy Fleetwood was a big swing too, wasn't it? Um, but I,
Starting point is 01:07:11 yeah. Like to me, Adam Scott is more is worse. No, here's what I'm, my opinion. I don't know how to sky on tour. But here's my opinion is that the Adam Scott outfit,
Starting point is 01:07:21 I thought was almost, we're almost considering it so bad relative to how hot he is and how good it could have looked. Not that the outfit was actually. bad whereas these other outfits on their own just looking at them on a rack are like pathetic if you ever all on a manikin you're saying they're worse all on a mannequin worse you picked up hovlin's outfit on a mannequin you need to be put straight into prison the only thing that bothers me the most about the adam scott outfits is they're pretty the top and the bottom is
Starting point is 01:07:49 they're pretty much the same color just a little bit of a different shade and that is infuriated they were like baggy brown right he doesn't cut they don't what are we doing here we sound like we're fashion experts, which we're clearly not. We've been staged this week. But I, well, true. Shout out. We're still wearing our Peter Malar stuff right now. But there's just you, there's stuff you see and you know it doesn't look good.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And I think everyone we've mentioned so far, if you look in the mirror, you just know that it's not a, it's not an A plus outfit. Clearly. And I, I think some of those clearly stood out. I thought that, um, Abe answered today on Sunday, they showed him. And he had on, I think an all black outfit and just a, um, an aggressive red hat. with his tequila company on it. I thought that looked great. So I think you can do the move where the hat isn't matching with anything in the outfit
Starting point is 01:08:35 and look good. I thought he pulled it off. But some of the all-time bad outfits were out there this week, and Nike just kept delivering with a bunch of them, and it was shocking. I've said it before, and I think Frankie has disagreed with me. I like, for the most part, Bryce and Deschambeau outfits. I think he keeps it pretty simple. Solid colors, and then like a khaki or a darker khaki pant and like a solid blue or a solid black
Starting point is 01:08:58 or a solid gray on the, top. I'm very simplistic in terms of fashion, as everyone knows. But like, if you just don't try to take too big of a swing like a Victor Hovlin and you go pretty standard, you're good in my book for the most part. I will say Nike had some,
Starting point is 01:09:13 they obviously sponsor a ton of players. Like Cameron Champ, his outfit killed it all weekend. Like black on black. Like, you know, he just, I thought he looked good all the whole time. I thought Jason Day when he was playing looked good. Jason Day is usually hit or miss, though. Sometimes he has awful outfits.
Starting point is 01:09:28 It's awful. All right. Well, either. Yeah. Okay. But I, yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:33 he, for the most part, he does. Yeah. He does a similar thing where it's black on black or it's blue on blue. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:38 It's simple. Yeah, he kind of does the adidas. The abstract colors. The DJ or the, or the, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Um, I thought, a nice pink shirt. I thought a pink shirt that grew on me. Because he's a blue, he's a blue gray guy. Mm-hmm. Was it Thursday?
Starting point is 01:09:51 I think it was Thursday. Thursday. day he wore the pink shirt that I thought looked bad at first and then it grew on me as the day went on. I thought the best outfits of the whole weekend were the foreplay guys in their Pia and their Pia Lard stuff. Absolutely. I have to say that. I'm still rocking my lavender. Trent, you've got a nice item on right there. Yeah, this is like this thin jacket. I don't know. I really love it. I thought it was a quarter zip when I first pulled out my scripting and then I was like, oh, this is like a nicer item. I love it. So the Peter Milar crown sport apparel is trusted on tour by pros like
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Starting point is 01:11:10 They've got a couple pair of jogger pants that Frankie was getting compliments on. The best. That ass is popping. The absolute best. If you want to look like a cool guy, you want to look like a hockey player on his day off. You got to get the jogger pants.
Starting point is 01:11:21 It is, yeah. It is hockey player on his day off. I think it's like the ankle pant is what they're calling them on the website. Okay. The ankle pant. Don't iron them. Don't. No,
Starting point is 01:11:30 I started to. I tried to, and then it just stuck to the iron. He burned them. They stuck to the, they just burnt right through. Well, yeah,
Starting point is 01:11:37 they're basically like that athletic. Because it's not that type of like material. One thing that I found out, and actually, shout out to me, I think I turned Frankie on on Saturday with my Peter Millah. Oh, it was really good.
Starting point is 01:11:48 He kept looking at me and goes, that's the best you ever look. Oh, you did look good. You did look good. And usually you dress like a. Right. I just don't matter. It's like I do the, you know, blueberry, whatever. You do.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I was, I was curious today. I heard you sort of a little bit down on your blueberry outfit. I was surprised because I've seen you purposely dress yourself. Right. Do you think I'm in that corner? I'm all in that corner of blueberry. Right today? I mean, I've been doing blueberry a lot recently.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Well, blue is such a good color. It's great. And you know what's great about it for you and me? Finning. Oh, you sure is. Whoever sent me my Peter Mallard scripting, shout out to them for real, because they know me. They send me all dark colors. Those are the real ones.
Starting point is 01:12:24 They just know. Like, they're given, they're given, yeah. They're sending the guy named Lurch. They're giving Frankie whites, which she looks good, and they're giving rigs these beautiful purples. You throw that on me, and it's just, it's on me because my body is terrible. So they know they give me the dark blues, and I look fantastic. But the one thing about Frankie burning his pants with the iron is, like, there are so many different thicknesses of quartersip. that now I'm privy, like you have the feather weight,
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Starting point is 01:13:19 The pin location on the sixth hole on Friday was awesome. It was the back right pin that was just barely over the knob. And man, we were watching people land balls within three or four feet of it, left of it or short of it, that were rolling 60 feet away. Justin Rose at one point hit one of those shots. It rolled all the way to the front left of the green. Then he hit a put that came back to his feet. And then he two putted from there for bogey.
Starting point is 01:13:43 We saw chips. I think the first time they panned that hole on Friday. VJ Singh had like a 10-footer for double and there's no water on the hole I was like what is going on here and then he showed the replay and he hit you know he hit it just short a pin rolled back off the front
Starting point is 01:13:57 tried to chip it up rolled back off the front tried to chip it up rolled back off the front putted it up and then made like a 10-footer for double so that pin location on six big credit to Augusta it was awesome brutal yeah just brutal it is no I mean it shows you like we were talking about what we could shoot there but when you hear those stories
Starting point is 01:14:16 is like I can break 200. I mean, you have to hit it on dinner play. You have to put. It was hard to lagging up. Then I just remember. Yeah. Right. Just looked impossible.
Starting point is 01:14:24 One person was double digits under Hedecki. Yeah. Think about that. Like that is, think about how good those guys are. And that's not a golf course that only has two par fives. That's a golf course with four par fives that pretty much everybody in the field can reach every time. And for them, for the winner to only be 10 under.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Right. That's crazy. That's why I love it so much because on the back nine today, like, we had a golf tournament. from the walk from 15 to 16, I would say. It was pretty much like the peak of the golf tournament excitement is literally the walk off 15 to 16. Correct. But the finish of that with 13 and 15, both getable, hit a good drive, here we go, is so exciting for a finish. I just don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:05 I don't know if there's no course that's better in my eyes for just a finish. And also having the ability to bring scores from multiple, like if you're five under and one, under you can bring those people together in a split second yes and it's um and you know the holes right so that like which always always helps it's it's and i get that like on tour they play a lot of courses where you know but none of the courses are like augustin national and none of them mean as much as a major championship so seeing it all come down on a course that you know and having augusta be as perfect as it is having it be to um kind of a second shot golf course and a recovery golf course is so cool in the sense that, you know, people are rarely out of the hole, like off the tea.
Starting point is 01:15:47 There's a few instances, obviously, but a lot of times, like, you see a guy spray it into the woods, and then you might see something awesome. Like, when they cut to Hedeky right after the rain delay on 11 on Saturday, like, he was in the trees way right, and he hit, like, this sick cut punch shot to the back right pin on 11 made birdie and then, you know, was six under on his last eight. It's like, that's cool. Kids from a similar spot, you know, on Thursday, I think it was, like made triple from there. So it's like you just don't know, and it is a recovery.
Starting point is 01:16:16 It's a recovery golf course. Like, Spieth on Friday, Thursday, Saturday, Spieth on Saturday, you know, when it looked like he really had a chance for the golf tournament. On the eighth hole, we hit one so far left on eight that he was like talking to the winds and the green coats and looking around how he could like. And then he hit the most amazing recovery shot made birdie on the hole. So it's like Augusta destroys people. It is, like I said, four reachable par fives.
Starting point is 01:16:41 and only four people were better than six under for the whole week. Like that's crazy. So the rest of the course holding up, you know, that well against everyone without there being much trouble off the tea. It's just such an awesome golf course. It's honestly just refreshing to have a week of golf where scoring isn't one of the topics of discussion, whether it's really, really high scores or really, really low scores. That's when you know the golf course is just playing fantastic where, oh, it's not like all that Zach Johnson, and they lost control of the golf course
Starting point is 01:17:12 and people can't do anything out there or they're going 25 under. Like it's nice just to have a golf tournament play out. Scores are here and there. Only one guy double digit under par. And then you have a winner. Like that's kind of a nice refreshing week to have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:24 And I thought too, like they lengthened the fifth hole, which was talked about a couple years ago. They lengthened it by like 50 yards, you know. And I do think I love that hole now because I do think you get a little bit of a taste of like US Open in there a little bit. Like the fourth hole is 240 par three.
Starting point is 01:17:40 that's got a very shallow green. So it's very hard for guys to make good scores there. And then they go to the fifth hole, which is a bear. And it's like they've got to try to get through this hole. And like a PAR is a really good score there. And that feels a little bit US opening. And then like once they get through, you know, seven, depending on where the pin is on seven,
Starting point is 01:17:57 it's like eight's very much a birdie or eagle hole. Nine, you know, they can all pretty much hit the fairway. They have a shot to get to 10, 11, but like some of the pins on 12 are good. Then 13, 50. It's like birdies, Eagles. It's like, it just gives you such a good. cool mix and it's like you know you can since you know it so well and since the course is so cool and has such good variety you can almost like get inside the player's head a little bit of what
Starting point is 01:18:22 they're thinking of like i know this guy this par putt from 12 feet on five is huge for this guy because if he just gets through here with a par he knows he can make some make some strokes up and it's just like cool to be in their heads a little bit well when matty i'm was standing on 15 uh the discussion was he has one swing left. Yes. If he puts a good swing on this, lands it anywhere on the green, this tournament is over.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And he obviously did what he did. He blew it through and put it in the water. But we were all saying we knew what he was thinking. I guarantee that's what he was thinking. He was thinking, if I had a good shot here, this tournament is absolutely mine. And if I don't,
Starting point is 01:18:59 I'm in real fucking trouble. Well, that also played out on 12 because he just made a bow. He gave one back. And then we made a bet on Barstville Sportsbook that he's going to miss the fairway. Because only miss,
Starting point is 01:19:09 you can't go you can't pull it left so in order for him to commit to a draw around the corner is just insane and so what does he do he pushes it like out to the right misses the fairway boys collect a little change yeah he um he just navigated his way to that victory man and it's cool to watch him do it because you knew where all the trouble spots are in augusta it just continues to deliver brooks kevary talked about his outfits already uh you know he had a very disappointing showing he did look ridiculous with his knee and you know some of the stances which I mean, you applaud him coming off surgery three weeks later and trying to play. And his presser, after he missed the cut on Friday, he was asked, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:46 hey, can you just talk about the disappointment of the cut? And he immediately responded to how fucking disappointed do you think I am. I work my ass off just to get here. And then to play like this is pretty disappointing. What do we think of that pretty aggressive response? I think if you're a journalist in 2021, you can't do the talk about question. I think that drives people crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:05 If you don't ask it, it's not even a question. I shouldn't have said question there. if you just say talk about how disappointed you were about this like is there a question in there what do you want me to do like talk about how you didn't do what you wanted to do this weekend that's a very frustrating
Starting point is 01:20:20 thing and in terms of how I feel about his aggressive response I just think that he had to be so frustrated although in the back of his mind he had to be thinking somewhere like should I even be out here I can't I can't bend this neat like it seems crazy but I guess
Starting point is 01:20:36 he just he really thought he had a chance so he's frustrated i don't know and that's the power of augusta too i mean like people want to play you see all over social media the players are like psyched to just play another round at augusta even if they're not like don't have a chance to win the tournament but they've made the weekend they're just excited to play another round so was a little early for kebka it looked like it you know i mean if you can't bend your knee you can't tell me it's 100%. definitely looked like you know yeah i i agree with the with the question aspect that is that is the reporter saying i'm only here to get negativity and news made out of negativity.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So just go on here and I'm going to put this frustrating thing out there and I want you to just kind of deliver a sound bite for me in a negative way. And that was literally all that was said. It was like negativity plays on the news. So I know you're going through a real negative emotional state right now and I have to capitalize on that. So just talk about that negativity real quick. Talk about how negative.
Starting point is 01:21:30 That's all he said to it. Kind of like Ballionis last year with DJ. It's the opposite because it's not a bad thing, but she kept trying to make him cry. she's like so he was like I can't answer your next question because I'm about to cry he's like I'm sorry and she's like how does it feel that everything that's that's led up to this point in your life like is now staring you in the eyes like you're he's like Pauline is that he's just like everything you've ever wanted accomplishes happen how does that make you stop you got to stop you got to stop right she's like okay I hear you what about your team what do they mean to you
Starting point is 01:21:59 what does it mean to have your brother on the bag yeah that's a good way to do it though Because then you get a good emotional clip. That was like the most human eye. Right. This was the opposite of that. They used to have this girl at the Islander games back in like the dark days, like the fucking early 2000s when no one was coming to the arenas. And they used to have the little kids come out there for the shootout.
Starting point is 01:22:19 And she'd pull one of the guys over, the little kids over. And she'd always ask the same questions. Did you score? And clearly he scored. That's why she pulled him. And the kid would go, yeah. How do you feel? Good.
Starting point is 01:22:32 And the thing would be over. It's just like, what do you think this three-year-old? that just played on this fucking ice is going to answer to that question. I think that's more about just pictures for the parents. No, it was like to the whole arena. We're all sitting there. It was like breaking down these fucking questions.
Starting point is 01:22:46 It just was like some of these fucking reporters questions and obviously it's not to these three-year-olds skating on the ice. I mean, you guys can clearly tell that that used to drive me fucking. No, but I'm with you. Like, what is this three old? What is this kid going to? Actually, when I woke up this morning, I was insane. It's insane. Like the fact the kid even got on the ice was amazing.
Starting point is 01:23:03 You think this kid's going to fucking give you a full break. breakdown interview? You're just mad that you weren't on the eye? That's what I was thinking. Is there any little jealousy out there? No, I guess it was one of those like you had to be there things since she did it every game.
Starting point is 01:23:13 That was a window in just how long Frankie has been angry. She never got... Decades. You never got an answer other than good once. 41 straight games I'd go to. Never once did the kids say anything other than good.
Starting point is 01:23:25 What was the first thing that was repetitive that was under your skin that you hated? Like, what was the first thing that you hated? I don't know. Red lights? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Think about it. Come back to that.
Starting point is 01:23:35 the next time because I got to be pretty early I got to be fucking pee man I've been drinking water like a fish you've said that so many times I mean I drank 10 bottles of water a day here you've been drinking a lot yeah as someone who only did you have 15 one day do you fish drink water I don't know I was
Starting point is 01:23:53 trying to think about that too they live in water clearly but do they drink it need water to survive like to actually get the oxygen out of it they do but I don't know that they drink it is I consider drinking it or is it like almost like closer like a photosynthesis type thing that goes through your
Starting point is 01:24:07 There's no way they need water the way they need water They're not thirsty Like if they're thirsty They just open their mouth Yeah And if they're really thirsty They're dead
Starting point is 01:24:16 Good point You know tricky What do we do if I have to really Pee? We just keep rolling Well yeah And you can just get up And go to go to the rest
Starting point is 01:24:25 From a couple shows ago You know It's part of the gig Bryson Bryson De Shambo Has not clearly figured out
Starting point is 01:24:32 Augusta National I do enjoy when I turn on the live from that like Brandl loves this you can tell he just loves that like golf is about painting a picture and the artistry and shot shaping and that Bryson is just not an artist that he's just a robot and you know it's very clear
Starting point is 01:24:49 I think he said like trying to put a square peg into like a round circle or round hole it's like you just can't he just can't quite figured out and I think that that's right there are a ton of par 67 jokes going around even though he shot 67 on Friday he shot like 76 on Thursday and then just did not play well over the weekend I think he ended up I don't know four or five over par whatever it was
Starting point is 01:25:11 but um the Bryson has not figured out Augusta National and I for one I kind of enjoy that he hasn't figured out Augusta I do too and I'm sure over the years as if he doesn't figure it out and he doesn't win a green jacket for a long time people are going to continue to use the PARs 67 joke they're going to run it into the ground but he made that bet and he totally deserves for that to be brought up every single year that he doesn't win. And I'm with you, Riggs. I enjoy watching him struggle at Augusta National because
Starting point is 01:25:40 going into the November Masters, he was putting on the green jacket on Tuesday. And there were people on his side being like, he's just going to bomb it over this whole place and he's going to win. It's going to be no problem. So every time he doesn't achieve that goal and every time that place gives him fits, it makes me feel warm inside. And I don't, I don't, I don't, we talk about it on this podcast all the time. And I honestly don't want to react. hash it again about how we feel about Bryson. But like seeing him struggle, a guy who, anytime you watch
Starting point is 01:26:09 someone who's overconfident and thinks they have something figured out and they fail, it feels good for everybody else. Especially in a game that we all know is humbling and extremely difficult and more difficult than he's leading on. Right. And the par 67 thing, I think another main reason people love making fun of it is that
Starting point is 01:26:25 it is a ridiculous thing to say. Like, just because you can in theory hit it the distance to get up near something, doesn't mean that it changes that whole par and especially the third hole. The third hole, like, if you're calling it a par 67, you're saying that like he just drives it into the middle of the green right time because that's what a par means. A par is like, takes you two shots to hit it on to the green on three. It doesn't take him one shot to hit it on the green on the three. Nobody hits it on the green on the right. Nobody, Bryce,
Starting point is 01:26:50 you can't hit the green with a wedge. He's in green with the driver. Right. No. So like him calling it par 67. If anything, if he said par 68, we could all understand that. Yeah, yeah, four reachable par fives. Ha ha, ha, tiger. People used to laugh that it was par 68 for Tiger. That's cool. the minute he went one stroke lower and he brought in the third hole as like an automatic birdie hole Karma immediately kicked him in the dick last year when he lost his T-shot on the third hole
Starting point is 01:27:12 as like oh yeah this is now just a reachable hole that's a part three for you no it isn't that hole's a possible so I think like people love like we just said to you know see someone who was overly cocky about something not achieve that something because it grounds them and all of us
Starting point is 01:27:30 and Bryce is going through that I imagine and maybe someday he will figure out Augusta. Maybe he'll win there, but it's not right now, and it's kind of nice to see. Totally great. And it's also, if you're going to, like, take a knock at the most prestigious and most beloved golf course in the world, and it punches you back in the face,
Starting point is 01:27:49 like the world is going to appreciate that. Yes. You know, and, like, that's what's happened, I think, for the whole golf world. And so I like to see Bryson succeed, and I want to see that, you know, his length really, like, change the game in some capacities. but when you make that little like joke about Augusta and oh it's a par 67 and you're right like to call the third hole of part three is ridiculous like I don't know if there's ever been in the history of the masters somebody to birdie that all four days like I just I can't believe that to be true and so yeah it's it's great to see it punch him back in the face and him make the cut both times and struggle like it's almost we'll let you into the tournament but you're going to die for Saturday and Sunday and like you're going to have to have to have to have the most pain of anybody out on this
Starting point is 01:28:33 call course. Yeah. Yeah, and the Part 68 stuff with Tiger, that's earned. The stuff with Bryson is stupid, airheaded cockiness. Right. It's glitch in the system, which is what I love for him. What do you mean? Like, just, yeah. Like, you know that he goes back and he had this number and he had all these calculations and he had this assessment of how he was going to do scientifically,
Starting point is 01:28:54 mathematically, the whole bit. He cannot figure out why that's not working. And it keeps him up at night. And it's going to reroute his whole system. Like, I, I mean, we kind of thought that in November, and I think he did pretty well after that, right? Like, he's played, I mean, he won in Bay Hill. Totally. Right, I knew something.
Starting point is 01:29:11 But he hasn't like dominated. No, but like, you just got to think that like this drives him so fucking crazy. Dude, he was so befuddled after the November Masters that he had every medical test done on his body that was available to the public. Like he just had himself tested and tested and tested
Starting point is 01:29:27 because he couldn't believe he thought it had to be something else. It had to be something wrong with his vibe. And that's why we all hate him. Yeah. I think. I don't know if I'm speaking for you guys, but that's. No,
Starting point is 01:29:37 at times, everyone hates him. At times everyone hates him. He's just a squid. Like that, like that word just like always just comes in my head with him where it's just like, what do you mean you're sick or like you have to get fucking tested? You didn't play good golf this week.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Well, the other thing is, it's literally a par 68 for the majority of the field. You know, like the majority of the field can get home on every par five and two. Could you call it a 68? Like, yeah, like, DJ could call it a 68. Is he, like, do you go out and state that and say it, especially before to Trent's point, you don't earn anything of calling it that?
Starting point is 01:30:10 Like, could Tiger say like, yeah, I mean, I treated it as that because I thought this is where I could take advantage of the golf course. It is a par 72. But, you know, every par five, I was looking at it as a party to get one back. Like, you could stay that now after you've accomplished all. To say it prior is like, what do you do? You get a couple shots on a fucking driving range and walked in and said it's a par 67. Well, the VJ clip is all time. I mean,
Starting point is 01:30:33 you're right. He doesn't even, he just, he just, he was hitting balls really far in a living room somewhere and he decided in his brain it's par 67 at a gun. Like yeah, it's a par 67 in that track man thing with Chris Como.
Starting point is 01:30:48 But it's not a par 667 at Augustine National in front of VJ sing on the drive range anymore. Like that's not the fucking real world. No, and even calling it a par 68, it's like, well then that's, A,
Starting point is 01:30:59 that's, that's such a bad mindset because look at how hard the rest of the course plays then. Everyone then is shooting, you know, two, three over on average. Because, you know, the field, there was only, what, 20 guys that shot under par. So, like, the rest of the field, the average score is if you're looking at somebody that shot, say, two over for the entire week, well, then they were, what, eight over for the entire week. If you're caught it, 10, 12 over more. If you're looking at it as like a par 68, which is not.
Starting point is 01:31:26 So it's a crazy mindset to go in with privately. and then to say it publicly was a bit more like into his mind of how poorly he is with understanding public relations and like the general conversation around the public and golf and social and it just comes to bite him in the ass. So long story short, the part 67 jokes are going to continue and he deserves it. Totally. I mean, if you're going to think, like you think Bryson would think about it more of I'm just going to add up the scoring average across all the holes and that's going to be my par. And that's how I'm going to compete for 18 matches over the course of this. round because you look at the fifth hole scoring average is probably four and a half so if you get a
Starting point is 01:32:03 four on that hole you're picking up a half stroke on the field you know and like just right you'd think he'd almost be more like rather than stating it but the yeah your point and everybody's point is accurate in terms of him saying it publicly is just like dude you're so detached from reality yes when he misses a put he looks up into the sky and blinks a million times like he just can't fucking he can't that that drives me no I can't fathom that the ball didn't go in based on his talk and what he's Insulting to everyone else in the field when the only reason that he played poorly in November was because of some like metaphysical issue that had to be diagnosed by 30 doctors when it's like oh well all the other 90 guys that didn't win the masters this year They just played like shit but not me. I actually had like a
Starting point is 01:32:45 A physical biological issue that I couldn't have overcome right on top. Yeah, you just played like shit on top of everything. Yeah, the lack of accountability just that it's actually his fault is Is how you you turn off the masses immediately. And perhaps that is the best way for it to work for him and his process. And good for him. He's U.S. Open champ. And he'll be very successful, make millions. In terms of his likability and people like us, it's going to turn us off forever. Whoever is PR rep actually is just horrible.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Like whoever's managing his image is like the videos. Clearly the videos. Yeah. It's just a mess. His team's bad. Yeah, really bad. The U.S. Open trophy with the leg. Or you could argue that they just get eyeballs.
Starting point is 01:33:26 and that's exactly what they try and do. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Like, he or she was managing him doesn't go to fucking people actually like him. He or she that's running and saying like, oh, yeah, I'm just getting you all these fucking advertising and all these people are watching. He does have a billion sponsorship.
Starting point is 01:33:42 He has so many sponsors. So it's like, they're putting logos on your chest. It's also just kind of like hard to hide a squid. Yes. He's going to be asked questions and he's going to answer them. He leaves an ink trail. That's right. You know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 01:35:01 He had a lot of, he's just got like a really unique look to him. He looks like he's wire thin because he is. He's sneaky tall, I think, which is why like that 165 that we came up with because we were asking. How much is that guy weigh? 110? He's like 165. He's sneaky tall. Pounds the golf ball.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Hits it on a string. Hits it pure. He finished tied for six at the U.S. Open. at Wingfoot. And then he comes in at the Masters and has an awesome showing. He was really one of the only gutsy ones throughout most of the day. He ended up finishing solo second one shot behind Hadecki.
Starting point is 01:35:37 You know, the big story that they hammered home probably too much, beat a dead horse, whatever, was just that, you know, he doesn't have tour status even. He's clearly going to be, I think, a very consistent star. He looks like Happy Gilmore's caddy to the point where he engraved it on his wedges, so he's embracing all that. Did he do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:56 He had it in great. You see Adam Sandler tweeted out today? Like, good luck today. Mr. Gilmore is looking out for you. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. That's excellent. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:36:04 So he shot a two under 70 in the final round today. You know, under... God, he had it going too. He had it going. He looked good. He really looked good to hold that. He never looked like uncomfortable. He never looked like he wasn't, he wasn't going to be a factor.
Starting point is 01:36:18 He just kind of stayed right there. He made some mistakes, but everybody did. And ultimately, again, he finished one shot back. after all of that with all the pressure being kind of a nobody he did have the great quote of like well if it was dumb to think i could even be here then it's clearly dumb for me to think i can win the masters so why not and he almost did he's one shot back um just nothing of positive things to say about it and he it's also crazy for this 24 year old guy that you're saying doesn't have tour status this whole thing for us to have that much confidence in him the way we did watching him on sunday like especially on like barsal sports book and all this stuff like putting in bets for him to like hit greens and make birdies on tough holes. Like I never once wavered on Zalotaurus to ever like really have a big blow up, which to me is insane. It's Augusta National. It's Sunday. And we're putting in all this confidence in this guy. That just shows how
Starting point is 01:37:07 fucking good he is. Yeah, I liked his comments too about, you know, making puts for Monday qualifying and like how hard that is because that's before you achieve success and get big paychecks and you're trying to earn it. Obviously, you know, it's a different mental state of, you know, being at Augusta. versus those, but they're still, like, vitally important to your golf career. And, yeah, he made a bunch of good comments. He's obviously got a ton of game. He's got, I think he got the fastest hips I've ever seen moved through a golf ball.
Starting point is 01:37:36 But it was great to see him come out, and obviously he played tremendously well. And it goes to show you you need to make every shot because he cans a 20-footer on 18 that felt irrelevant. And then all of a sudden, it was so massively potentially important as that key he has to get up and two put from there. Yeah, he earned a lot of fans. I think he's going to, you know, he'll be remembered for a long time. It's like that young fucking kid because even though he is, what is he, 24, is that right?
Starting point is 01:38:01 Right. This blew my mind too. Right around 24, right? He looks like he's 17. So it's like when you, to a degree, especially in the interviews and stuff, it comes off, I would say as more mature and older and whatever. But like that, you know, as a fan, you pretty much see that silhouette of them from behind when they're like, or from the side, I guess, when they're, when they're hitting a shot. And like he's wiry with the long hair that looks like a little bit. body on it's a little bit immature to have like the hair like unkempt and flowing out of the hat and his wiery little body body and you're like who isn't this high school kid that's like a little mustache you know just like he's like barely getting facial hair he's a young person but in a young man's body he's like frankie yeah yeah yeah you know like yeah he gets stopped at the movie theater for rated our movies right he looks a little young yeah he'll be getting carded till he's like 45 yeah he's trying to get a drink like yeah he just looks really young um
Starting point is 01:38:54 But man, he was badass all week. And his game, there's really not much to say, like, his game was just solid. He hit it straight. You know, they said that his biggest knack on him was his, or negative on him was his putting, that he's, like, worked really hard on it. And he putted pretty damn well, you know, comparatively speaking. And he just continued to hit it great. Every time that cut to him, dude, he was hitting an absolute missile dead straight,
Starting point is 01:39:16 it felt like. Yep. Totally great. His ball striking is incredible. The other thing that I thought you were going to say about how young he is and then how young the field is. Something that blew my mind is he played in like a junior event with Speath when he was nine and Speeth was 11. And just to think about how young he is and the career that he has in front of him, Speath is still so damn young and he's just accomplished so much
Starting point is 01:39:39 in this game. And the roller coaster of career, I guess, that he had, but now that he obviously back on the up and up, it just, I don't know, it goes to show you that there's just so much more for him to accomplish too. There is. There is. It's like, it's pretty shocking. It's, it's pretty shocking that it's been, you know, four years since Speed's won a major. Because we're looking at those numbers. When you hear it, he's 27, you're like, wait, he was only 23. When he locked up those three majors and was going for the Career Grand Slam, it was like, he could have won the Career Grand Slam when he was 23 if he would have won that
Starting point is 01:40:09 PGA when he gave the thumbs up to Jason Day. And you're just like, how is that possible? Right. So he's got a lot to give. Speed had a good week. He had a very good week. What he, T3? I think he was T3. he was pretty good week of the master seven under par he was tied for 30 he finished only three shots back and and he had a speed like week where it was like he was muttering to himself he didn't look fully comfortable it never really felt like he was in full control of his game and he almost won the fucking masters right so that's kind of speed that's why we love him he's a roller coaster man it's just you're gonna lose your mind on 16th year it's a roller coaster that's now around every week again like the roller coaster it had some deep deep valleys where we didn't see you're going to lose your mind it's a roller coaster that's now around every week again like the roller coaster it had some deep deep valleys where we didn't see him for two or three years.
Starting point is 01:40:53 And it was like, holy shit. And then when it came back up, you know, the beginning of this year and at waste management, obviously. But now it's still a roller coaster, but it's, it's more steady than it has been. And it's, it's good just to like turn on the coverage and speed is up near the top of the leaderboard. And you know you're going to watch them all day. Like that's just a better place for the game of golf for speed, obviously, than it has
Starting point is 01:41:14 been the last couple of years. And I get enjoyment out of that. Dude, I ask this question because he's just so much, right? and Brian Harmon was playing with him today on Sunday at Augusta. They're both trying to win a master's green jacket. I mean, they both had a chance all day. There's no question about it. And I just like,
Starting point is 01:41:32 I can't wrap my head around playing with a guy like Jordan Speath in a fucking major. The way he has his ups and downs to the point where I'm like, do you think if you're Brian Harmon, you're getting swept up in all the theatrics with Jordan Speeth? Like they were standing on the 16th T and Jordan was taking his hat off, like going back and forth with Greler. changing clubs like Brian Harmon's just in that now like his his journey to winning his own master's is now just fully fully like ingrained in Jordan Speets day he knows everything that
Starting point is 01:42:04 he's talking about he's watching this guy go crazy I you know to throw you off it's more on par threes too because like par fours or par fives you drive on out there you pick a line but then you separate because somebody hits it left to right but certainly on 16 that was a point in the day where frank was like it's enough I mean he's going to back and forth four times he keeps talking to grellar he keeps wiping the towel like i just he's imparting his like roller coaster of emotions on harmon like this is now more difficult for harman even when harman was like hitting you could they still had the camera on speech and he's like hitting his leg a little bit and like talking and like taking his house it's like dude the guy who's on the t-box is is trying to
Starting point is 01:42:40 do the same thing as you can we just like relax for a second it's just it's just an overflow of his ups and downs to me you realize if you put this this clip on twitter some people might respond and be like Spider-Man gift to you. What do you mean? But you're that person? Yeah, that's like that I,
Starting point is 01:42:57 and we talk a little bit about that too, but Speed seems to have more of a running commentary. I just don't. Frankie'll be down in the dumps and then he'll get quiet. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:43:07 It's speed that's, it never stops. The printer keeps printing out pages and it just never, ever stops. But I would assume he gets quiet when like Harmon's hitting. He's not like talking.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Yeah, yeah. No, he's definitely, he's not disrespectful, but I do understand what Frankie's, saying where you can't not notice it i would imagine it's got to be significantly tougher i would say to play with spith than it is to play with like patrick can't let who's just
Starting point is 01:43:35 quiet right like in his own world without question yeah and so yeah i would agree with that i'm sure it's distracting i'm sure it's like has to be but what do you think was more distracting to brian harmon today was it spith's running commentary about his game or michael grell are not having a beard because I think it's probably Greller not having a beard. Stunning move. Riggs, you made a good point when we were all stunned on the first T. You were like, oh, they're just trying to change it up. But.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Can't do that. It's just too much. He's been too much. He's had a great year. How do you change up your fucking beard on Sunday? When I saw that he had no beard, Greller, I literally bet against Pete to lose the first only did. That was a good bet.
Starting point is 01:44:10 That was such a good bet. Yeah, it was a great bet. You think there had to be some sort of internal build off like, hey, that's going to help us achieve success. We're going to rally around you shaving your. There had to be something. Yeah, if you're Grellar, you don't shave that without asking Spieth? No.
Starting point is 01:44:26 For sure. That was clearly right. Yeah. Was it the 2017 British where Spieth shaved his head? Do you remember that? Dude, they got a lot of weird things going on that curled. Speed did not shave his head. Dude, they were like buzzed it.
Starting point is 01:44:36 He buzzed it. And it was noticeable. I remember that. He was answering all questions about it. No, no. He's thin up top already. No, but he's got hair and you can see it under the hat. Like the head.
Starting point is 01:44:45 That happened. I'll try and find a picture of it, but it was very clear. Yeah, they have some. something going on. They have to have something going on. Because, yeah, like, Greller doesn't just come out Sunday of the master when you're in the third or fourth the last group,
Starting point is 01:44:59 clean shaving for the first time in his career. Right. And it wasn't a thing. Like, Jordan doesn't see him on the range and be like, oh, you decided to shave. That's cool. No chance that. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:08 This isn't a member day. Like, it's not just like, you can't shock your player right before he goes. Right on the range. He's over a wedge. He's like, what did you do with my caddy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Like, that was amazing. Look at that hair. Oh, yeah. No, it's not shaving, but high and tight. Right. And you could tell when he had the hat on it just looked like he had changed something. And he, like, he addressed it, right? Didn't he say he went to a local, he went to a local barbershop?
Starting point is 01:45:31 I think he did say that. Yeah. But that's a thing where Sunday of a major, they're shaving a body part. Right. And sometimes it's parts we don't see. They've got like a little thing going. Yeah. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:45:41 They shave stuff. Shavegate. They shave stuff. They shave stuff. I don't know how else to say it. Speeaves him. Yeah, maybe it gets real personal, depending on how big the tournament is. DJ missed the cut.
Starting point is 01:45:56 I don't know. We're not going to necessarily analyze that. Who cares to a degree? Like he won the tournament. He won the Masters of November. He was crying. It was awesome. He's a stud.
Starting point is 01:46:04 He's a number one player in the world. He'll be totally fine. I got a question for you, though, about his win. Do you think that him having the scoring record in November and that, like, does that get a caveat? Or is that just? I think it'll always get addressed. I don't think it'll ever be like, oh, yeah, DJ has a scoring record at 20 under. I think they'll be like, DJ has a scoring record.
Starting point is 01:46:20 what you got in November when it was soft. Yeah, like I think people will always kind of talk about it a little bit. I don't think, though, his win will ever have like, or nobody to think of it as needing like an asterisk or anything. It's like he won the master. It was awesome. Right. I also say that speaks to him as a player.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Like, if it wasn't Dustin Johnson who won it, it was somebody else. Good point. But the fact that it's Dustin Johnson, it's like he was, he could have won that blindfolded. He was just the best player at that time and that's a no-brainer. Of course, could have played like it did this week. He would have won that week. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Like if it was the same condition. Bryce went into that thing. He was a par 67. I didn't even come close. That's right. Same term. I mostly want to know what DJ did the last two days
Starting point is 01:46:54 because it seems like... He played golf today, right? He did play golf, we heard. Where? Champions, something. Oh, champions are a treat. We were there. That's where Gary players.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Our friend Mr. Gary Players was... That's right. But I just want to know what his... His weekend looks like. Right, because he missed a cut Friday, but he has to present the jacket Sunday. Right. We were thinking he was going to PJ it right back to Florida.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Not that, like, money's a huge concern. But that would be to PJ it back and then PJ it back and then PJ it back home would be a good like 100 grand maybe probably 30 grand a flight something like that pretty good amount to spend yeah does he have a PJ sponsorship I don't know if he does does he have like wheels up on there I it's hard to keep track all or net jets wheel like there he's got something I'm guessing he stuck around and just like hung out it seems like he did if he played golf today he definitely did yeah good right j lives a life he's the paulina and he's just seems to enjoy himself he's the mother-law is wayne gretsky that's true
Starting point is 01:47:48 Boys with Waino. He's got a great thing going. Abe Ancer was penalized for the grazing of a bunker on Thursday. I think to the casual, not even the casual, just like the average golf fan. This was infuriating. We talked about it a good amount here in the room. And then, you know, it's frustrating because there's no way that penalty gets called without like super slow-mo magnified television cameras.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Right. They might have been using the 8K camera looking at that bunker. That's what it felt like. There's just so many opportunities to call people on that that don't have the camera on them. Like we were saying, I forgot what hole it was, but I think it was Thursday or Friday, or the same day that Abraham Hanser got this, Bryson was in the fucking bushes behind the par three and like taking practice swings and moving bushes and trees. Like you're telling me if you had an 8K super slow-mo camera that that fucking golf ball sitting on pine straw inside a bush is not wiggling and moving from its original spot to the point where he would also.
Starting point is 01:48:48 get like a penalty. To me, it's just crazy that we penalize people because they happen to be in front of a really HD camera on a certain specific hole. Dude, Bryson in that moment looked like
Starting point is 01:48:58 he was playing basketball and like trying to get into the low post. He was trying to get low post positioning on the tree line at Augusta. Because yeah, you're right. There's no way that ball didn't move. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:49:09 No chance. He's anything, dude. Right. That's the points. If you think about that over, you know, 93 golfers or 89,
Starting point is 01:49:16 however many it was this week, 88. who were playing, you know, 72 holes and all the different incidents you get into. Like, even in this tournament alone, that might not have been the only spot where somebody accidentally grazed a few grains of sand and you're going to penalize this one person, two strokes because you happen to have to get. It just seems a little bit ridiculous and nitpicky. I hate that rule.
Starting point is 01:49:35 I hate that, like, if it wasn't determinable in, in like, real life and then when you look at the replay, if it's not blatantly obvious to the naked eye, I don't think you can penalize that. That piece of sand, I bet you that Abraham answered didn't even know he didn't. did that until someone showed him the video. Yeah, definitely. It was so light that sand. There was basically nothing that, that, like, I don't even know that he saw it. Number one, number two, like, even thought it would ever be an issue because it was just
Starting point is 01:50:00 a little piece behind the ball that was already, that, that piece of sand was going to go with the club regardless. I mean, did you see the way it just fucking, yeah. So, but it's appeared on, on contact. I agree with you to play devil's advocate. If that's read, do you have the same stance? I personally would because I've backed. to read on some of that stuff being like, do we think that
Starting point is 01:50:20 this guy's really out there, like, knowing the difference between bringing that club back an inch and getting that one piece of hand. Right. What that does the golf ball? Right. Like, or just like having the fucking world ball to be able to do that. You sit in the same spot. I think all the HD camera shit's fucking bullshit. Okay. And it does
Starting point is 01:50:36 seem each time with Reed, there's some logical discrepancies. There's some, it's different. It's not a super zoom. It's not a super zoomed in camera. Super HD. in one grain of sand falls. It's like, well, that ball, how would it bounce and then embed?
Starting point is 01:50:53 You have more questions than just like, oh, it's a really super high-deaf camera. So I don't know if they're necessarily comparable. I understand what you're saying. To the general public, it's probably like people would look at it differently if it's Patrick Reed or if it's Abraham answer. But I do think the situations that Patrick Reed finds himself in seem to be a little blurier. And I agree with you on that.
Starting point is 01:51:12 But what if Reed found him in his stance where, you know, we're not talking about the ball that bounce and then embedded or. the thing in Australia where he seemingly moved more sand um but like if this was read this time where do you think you would sit if literally only by seeing through an 8k camera whatever the case is that you saw a movie like how would you feel i like to think i would sit where frankie said okay it would not be he'd get murdered no it wouldn't be murdered he'd get murdered and the the difference just for me on these is like the the read clips thus far that have all surfaced it's like people are literally noticing it taking cell phone footage of the TV of the camera being like across the
Starting point is 01:51:52 fairway right this was like no one on earth knew or said a word about it until there was a super high-deaf zoomed in slow-mo of it they were like those couple grades of sand are gone fair it's also where golf opens itself up to criticism where people who don't people who are just watching masters weekend where they watch that and they're like well this is the dumbest sport in the world that you guys are talking about this. You guys realize how stupid that is, right? Yes. That you get a two-stroke penalty for something that is only seen by the most expensive camera in the world.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Like, come on. That's preposterous. So I think we're all pretty much on the same page of that. I don't think they're necessarily made the wrong, like, ruling, but the ruling just needs to change. So that that can't happen with slow motion cameras basically giving people penalties. Zach Johnson, we had wherever the fuck you finish this week, who cares. But Frankie had a great. early call. That wasn't even a shot at Zach Johnson.
Starting point is 01:52:47 You know what? I forgot what the topic you're about to bring up and I was like, why are we talking about that? There was a Ruth was shot at Trentford. Yeah. No, I trust me. I like that John's like a nice guy. Midwestern fellow. Yeah. Frankie had the amazing call. I think it was Thursday, Friday. How did it come about? I think we were
Starting point is 01:53:03 just seeing a lot of Zach Johnson. It was our first day gambling on the sports book. I think he was out early on Thursday. So we were seeing a lot of Zach Johnson out there. He had the Trans America logo on. Sorry, Panera was just coming in on two on one.
Starting point is 01:53:19 It's really fun watching Frankie. Well, it's just, watching the hockey game. Just for a little fucking, like, background here. It's two, two,
Starting point is 01:53:26 Islanders, Rangers with eight minutes to go in the third period. So things are starting to tighten up over here inside these Peter Millar five pocket pants. You may not have hurt Frankie's like,
Starting point is 01:53:36 Pete for the last 10 minutes for a reason. We saw, we saw a lot of Zach Johnson, and I'm like, man, this guy just looks like a, we just need to clear this puck. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:43 This is fucking crazy, man. I mean, we are just in one right now. Okay, thank God. Oh, we didn't get out. I know this is a master's podcast, probably like the biggest golf weekend of the year, but we just got to get this Islander game going. Like, this is crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:58 There is so much pressure in this offensive zone. There's a thing. They can't get the puck out. Here's the thing. They can't get the puck out. They've got it in the slag. They just got to get it out now. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:10 If you have hitched, if you have hitched, your podcast wagon to forplay? You know what's going on. You are aware of what this is. Any new listeners, I'm sorry, you can leave now. Like, that's just what we're going to. Stick around.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Stick around. Because we got a good Zach Johnson thing coming out. Anyway, I saw this guy and I'm like, this guy just, for some reason, looks like an astronaut. And you guys looked at me like I had fucking 10 heads. You're like, what does that even mean? So then our fucking producer, Jake Bass puts a fucking, uh, Photoshop. I don't know why I'm just saying fucking right now.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I'm just so stressed. You're trying to put sentences together while watching this game. Right. Now it's a Photoshop. Joan, you can grind here. Put the Photoshop together of Zach Johnson on an astronaut, like stock astronaut photo. And I mean, we put it on social media and someone responded, is this, they actually thought that that was a real astronaut that happened to look like Zach Johnson. Go look on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:54:58 You'll see it on our Instagram. No one's ever looked like an astronaut more than Zach Johnson. Which I think is an incredible compliment to him. Yeah. Astronauts are here. I think it's like, I think it's like, that's tough. What they do is heroic for sure. I think they all have a look of like a fit mathematician,
Starting point is 01:55:16 which is like its own category of astronaut. You know what I mean? Like, Zach Johnson looks like he knows that it do a lot of complex math equations, and he also can like hit a golf ball. You know what I mean? Totally. Like there's certain mathematicians that are just nerds.
Starting point is 01:55:30 It's the most perfect fit of all time. Like, if you put your head on that astronaut, it looks ridiculous. You put Dander Schaubles on that doesn't fit. Exactly. He's the guy that it's spot on perfect. It's the nose. It's the square head. It's just.
Starting point is 01:55:42 It is the square head. It's just it fits. Distinguished chin. His head was born to be inside a space suit. The most important part of this, and I think you're probably going to backtrack this now. But you said that that picture might have turned you into a Zach Johnson fan. Oh, I did. I thought the idea of being able to tweet that out when he wins or plays well is a huge plus for me. There's a real chance that ends up on a bar stool shirt, stored out Barstool Sport at some point. A shirt. A hoodie. Yeah, something with the rider cup. Something going on because if if not it, I'm going to have Welker. make me a one of one and I'm going to wear it around because I love it. It was a great photo. It was just
Starting point is 01:56:16 fun to look at even. It is. It's just hilarious. A total-looking photo. Frankie, by the way, I have utilized the Barstool Sportsbook to put a little bit of money on the New York Island. Okay. Six minutes left. We are grind in right now. Two, two, six minutes left. Looks like we have a little bit of a commercial break right here. That's huge. Perfect for us.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Sewo Kim broke his putter and then used his three wood to put on the last three holes. This, I believe, was like Friday afternoon, Friday the evening and he was only like three shots off the lead at the time he was playing great golf he was four or five hundred for the tournament and then on the 15th hole and see who kem there's some uh you know rumors out there that he runs really hot he you know he missed a putter so i didn't see what he missed or what he did on 15 but he's standing waiting to hit you know he had like a 15
Starting point is 01:56:59 footer up the hill and he just gives gives the old like hardcore slam lean on the putter standing on that little slope on 15 green right before the water and just his putter broke right where it kind of meets the steel. Putter breaks. So then he very calmly just motioned to his caddy of like, yeah, you're going to need to bring that three wood over here. And then he putted with the three wood for the rest of the round. Two putted 15, two putt at 16, two putt at 16 and two putt at 18.
Starting point is 01:57:25 All of which I would say were putts that like he wasn't, he wasn't expected to make with a putter anyways. And they were pretty solid two bucks, especially on I think it was like 17. He had like a 30 footer. Was it three or five? I'm not sure. It was a wood.
Starting point is 01:57:40 It was like a faraway wood. Because I remember saying, like, how do you not use, like, the bottom of a wedge? Like, isn't that just a lot more of a natural stroke? But a three wood to me is so big. Like, five wood, I can understand as closer to a hybrid. Like, you, I would never be able to putt with a bigger head like that. I just would never be able to keep that plane going. I bet it was a three wood because it has less loft.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Like, five wood, you're starting to bump it up more. True. But, yeah, I don't know. I think I'd go with a wedge. I think I'd blade a wedge. Same. I think I might try. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:09 I think I might try the. the three wood move. Because I think it's close, the closest club that you can really use to like a putter. The issue with a three wood for like short putts that you just like need to get the ball on a line. Like that club is long and it's out there. You know what I mean? It was got jump.
Starting point is 01:58:27 I feel like for long putts, I don't have an issue with the three wood because it's more about just trying to get in a three foot circle around the hole. But like when you're there, that's where I'd be like, I bring over the wedge now. It was funny on 16 because he did. He had a decent look for. birdie and he hit it like two feet by the hole or something.
Starting point is 01:58:42 And so he had like a two foot tap in and he was standing like five feet away for the ball. Right. His three would so long. So it just proportionally you looked at it. You're like, what's going on here? You weren't queued into what was going on. So that was a fascinating moment.
Starting point is 01:58:54 But other than that, man, it was a great, it was a great masters that was borderline. It was in, it was leaking towards this is going to be boring bullshit on the back nine. When Hedekhi, I think at one point had like a six shot lead, five or six shot lead and still had a couple par fives to come up. But Augusta delivers. It's very hard to win a golf tournament, especially that one. There's water all over the place. It's nerve-wracking.
Starting point is 01:59:19 It got really close, and Hadeki pulled it off. So I'm excited to look at all the kind of the reactions, see what it means in Japan, kind of fully understand that more. And then other people are talking about the champions in there next year. That might be a little bit of a curveball for a lot of people. I hope he goes full like Hibachi. Me too. Like bringing Hibachi in the middle.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Somebody cook in the middle. Yes. You have to. That would be. You have to bring in Habachi. That would be awesome. Great call. Sabi bombs.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Like the whole thing. Right. Imagine like DJ, Tiger, them all going like, sake, like hitting the ground, having the bombs go in the whole thing. Thinking of a Gary player doing like leg kit to the middle with like a Bajio. You got to go all in. Like this is such a, this is such a different like winner. Such a cultural change.
Starting point is 02:00:01 You have to go all in on it. I hope he does. I hope he doesn't get swayed and do like fucking pimento cheese sandwiches. That's not Hideki Matsuyama. No. Dude, if he does go full Habi Bacchi Matsuami. You're right. We're already getting the bows to the golf course. We're getting like it's a cultural difference. It's a different winner go all in do the habachi But it was great good for Dheki Matsuyama for his whole team for Japan
Starting point is 02:00:21 It's really really cool I hope everybody's kind of his understanding as we are of like how meaningful it is and what that guy goes through and the pressure that he plays under And congratulations to Hideke I think that's all I got I agree one last point I thought you're gonna bring up with a bad rule like bad rulings and things that turn people off from off is Matt Wolfe turning in the wrong score on 17 getting DQed from the tournament. That's just, it's another rule to me that's like, right. I agree with you. He's not a high school player trying to like cheat the score and because like the other guy was going on.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Right. The Greenish sand's being noticed. You can't tell me that like we don't know that he made a four or three. It's like just get whatever. Next thing. If we have the technology to like track these balls on TV and stuff, like we obviously know the scores being tracked by some. I will say they did screw up shopway today too.
Starting point is 02:01:09 they said that like on remember that one yeah they did yeah but again you all know what they shot right eventually everybody they know what they get corrected just go to the footage you can't yep Matthew wolf was never gonna trick anyone being like oh yeah I actually got three on that right come on anyone he wasn't even close to making the cut it's just an innocent mistake right it's just it's just a bad it's just another one of like golf's rules it turns people off I think it's that high nose like you don't know how to write you on your focus rope on you see that ground sand or let me look at you with my monocle. It is stupid, I agree.
Starting point is 02:01:41 But we love the game. So who are we? We're here. We're doing it. We're enjoying it, but it can always get a little better. And just make common sense rulings. Yep. Make common sense rulings.
Starting point is 02:01:48 100%. That's really as simple as it gets. All right. We will be back on Thursday. Master's Week, it's as good as it gets. We get three majors, three months in a row coming up here. We got Keow as the next one. Should be pretty much a full crowd from what it sounds like at Kiowa for the PGA.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Then we're U.S. Open. Then we're British Open. or Open Championship if you still get upset about that. So we got a lot of major championship golf ahead. Congrats to Hadeki. Hit it hard.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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