Fore Play - Masters Thursday Reactions

Episode Date: April 7, 2023

Instant, knee jerk reactions from the crew on Thursday’s action at the Masters. We discuss Tiger’s scary shot on 18, Morikawa’s ball-marking clip, Hovland, Rahm, and Koepka going low, an amateur... making a run, MANY names in great position, and much, much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. He'll like, his name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butterknives because he always knifes it across the green. Brok 100.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. we agree with you. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 2999. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you guys? It's ain't a hobby. Okay. We're live. This is a recap of day one of the
Starting point is 00:00:49 2020-23 Masters Tournament Thursday. What a leaderboard, fellas. I can't see Trent. Something's going on. I'm on my iPad. I'm still in Augusta. You guys, left Augusta. I went to the Masters Tournament all day today. Didn't see my phone for a good 12 hours straight. Dan Rap Report still in Augusta. A lot happening. Crazy leaderboard. Tiger Woods almost
Starting point is 00:01:11 broke his legs in half again. All kinds of wild things happening. Max Homa did a walk and talk on TV during the Masters tournament, which I even know was going on. I just checked my phone and I looked at Twitter. I was like, what the fuck is happening here? What a day. I love that tournament. I cannot tell
Starting point is 00:01:28 you, pretty much every event on earth, I think, should just start taking cell phones. It is the most liberating thing on earth. Everybody's walking around. Nobody can take pictures of anything. After you get through the first 10 or 15 minutes of just reaching for your leg 8,000 times, you're just released. It's release me from the movie Independence Day. Release me. And they just release you and you're just hanging all fucking day. So it was a great time. We got some big names up there, some surprising names. Brooks Kefka's now in the mix, which is fantastic for everything going on. But yeah, what a first day of the Masters tournament.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah, I mean, it's a freeing feeling. You feel lighter on your feet when you don't have that technology in you, burning a hole in your leg. And you're just engaging with people. Like, you know, it's like you don't have another choice. It's, it's how humanity was supposed to be, really. It's like where evolution went to of like, all right, now you don't like, you're not as hunched over and you're like looking up and you're supposed to experience
Starting point is 00:02:24 the world in front of you. And we're actually reversing it by looking back down as like cavemen did. And like, you know, we were like apes like walking around the fucking planet. And now we're like, oh shit. Like these guys actually evolved to like look up and look at people in the eye. And we're just ignoring that. And the Masters has brought that back. I actually think there's research that shows like one of the reasons people are so willing to be so mean to each other on the internet is because it disassociates them with like the actual faces because you're looking at a screen.
Starting point is 00:02:52 If everywhere was like Augusta where we didn't have our phones and we had to look at each other when we said these horrific things to each other and would. see the reaction of horror of them being like, oh my God, I can't believe you said that. People would stop doing it. That's why you look out the window when you're trying to like get into someone else's lane. You're like, look at me. I'm a person who's trying to get into this lane. You also realize, I also realize when you're out there and you don't have your phone, how unimportant all the things I need to look up on my phone are.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Like you're talking to someone. You're like, oh, where did this person go to college? And you're just like, yeah, I don't know. Whereas before, it'd be like, I got to find that out right away. Yeah. You also, you realize how unimportant everything that is. set on the internet is nobody cares everyone's just there and and we're like no no this life and world that we're in right now is just better than whatever you're doing or saying on the internet we're at
Starting point is 00:03:40 augustin national we're at a man corner so i got last week i got a text message from my friend nick who i went to college with and said i got a handful of tickets we got an extra one for thursday friday i'm sure you're all set but if not i got one for thursday friday i said i'm not all set I would absolutely love one. So I went today with myself, a handful of college buddies that I know very well. Myself and Nick were the only people that had ever been to the Masters before. None of the other guys had been. We got there at like 7.30.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We bought chairs immediately, which they only sell the chairs for $35, which is outrageous, bought chairs instantly, walked to 12, put chairs behind the 12th tee, and then walked up to the clubhouse, watched Tiger Woods play the second hole. We got a few beers. We got breakfast sandwiches. We saw a bunch of different people warm up. playing golf and then the afternoon we went back and we just sat behind the tee on 12 we watched people play 11 watch them see off on 12 magical day without touching your phone the entire day
Starting point is 00:04:35 and then trying to catch up on everything afterwards is wild it's almost like we're all it was a very depressing walk from the merch tent which is where we finish the day to your where you re-get your phone and it's just like we're all looking at each other like you're leaving a trip for the end of the time even though we're still going to hang out for a bit of like ah what a what a bummer And everybody opens their phones. So the next 10 minutes we walk to the car, everybody's just like this. Look it down at your phone. You're hoping obviously the world didn't blow up.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And then trying to capture and reconnect with everything that's going on because as great, obviously, as it is being there, it's impossible to know what the hell is going on in the golf tournament. They do have the old school leaderboards, which are cool, but they only have like 12 names up there. The fact that they don't have Woods as name on there at all times is fucking insane. Every person you ran into said the exact same thing. They should have leader, right? They do like the past champions of the big events, not past champions of the masters. They have like Scotty Sheffler, Matthew Fitzpatrick, Justin Thomas. They have the amateur winners.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And then they have the actual leaders of the tournament. And then they should just have woods, like Tiger Woods. I don't care if he's 17 over in green letters and not red. You got to have Woods on there. So that's the only miss really all day. But this leaderboard, Victor Hovah, John, Rob, Brooks Kevka, all tied at 7 under. you got young day five under lowry zander scott our friend scott woodland scotty sheffler Bennett the amateur who fucking dominated burns all at four under morocawa speed at three
Starting point is 00:06:06 fienows at three the leaderboard's fucking crazy town already oh it's crazy and watching it on tv you just saw no one was oh man nobody was going away like everyone was just continuously making birdies it felt like people were going to fall off and then they just didn't you're like this guy bennett's not going to be able to play with these guys today. There's no chance. And then he goes, Bertie Eagle for like the first time since they started keeping that stat of like, what,
Starting point is 00:06:30 shot length since they started keeping this, the stat. And then like 10 minutes later, somebody did it again with the Sam Burns just came in and went birdie eagle on top. I think some, was it Trevor Immelman or, or,
Starting point is 00:06:40 um, I think who the fuck was it that was like, congratulations, Sam, you had a record at the Masters for seven minutes. Like it was that, it was that, it was that,
Starting point is 00:06:48 it was one of those days that the golf course just looked really easy and then you would they would flash to a guy like tiger woods who was really battling and you that's what's amazing about augusta is that like if you're playing well and you're hitting the right spots it looks like you can score there and then if you're not it looks like the hardest golf course in the fucking world you're putting defensively you can't keep it on the green you're putting the ball into the creek like fucking jordan speed and you just like can't figure it out i fucking yeah i think it's going to change dramatically over the next three days and i think they they know that with the forecast coming in so today was the day that's what tiger said right when he came
Starting point is 00:07:22 off. He was like, today was the day to take it low and I didn't take it low. I, you know, it's seven under par. I still don't think the winning score will be like much, much lower than 12 to 15 because it's supposed to be really, really nasty. So today was a day about like, you got to keep pace. You got to shoot three, four under par and keep yourself in it. I think the rest of the week is going to be a battle. And I think anyone who didn't shoot under part of it is basically out of it. I just, I wouldn't want to be, you can't chase on this golf course because like you said, if you start getting aggressive and you hit it in the wrong spots, you're dead. You have to take what this course gives you. It's not a place to play from behind. Yeah, I mean, we saw it in the same
Starting point is 00:07:55 group with Victor Hovlin and Tiger Woods. They looked like they were playing completely different golf courses. I kept waiting for Victor Hovlin to screw up and he just didn't. On the 10th hole, it looked like that was, that's where it was going to happen where that second shot flared it out right. And then he had an incredible chip to get up and down for part. It was unbelievable. And then they would cut to Tiger Woods. And I mean, Tiger hit hit a bunch of greens as, you know, if you got on the four the greens, bet on the bars for sportsbook, cashed it. 13. I think you have 13 greens. By the way, we have breaking news. That bet is back tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Tiger Woods, greens and regulation day two. It's going to be earlier. It's going to be fiercer. It's going to be more fierce. Every single hole is going to matter just as much, if not more. And we're going to watch that like a hawk. We're not sure what the numbers that yet. I think we're going to get it. 11 and a half. Oh, we've run it back. 11 and a half. We're running it back. Tiger Woods to hit 12 greens and regulation tomorrow on the Barstle sports book in only Barstle sports book legal states and he must be 21 plus or over. But that is an amazing
Starting point is 00:08:54 bad. One hundred gambler. That is an amazing, exciting bet because like we said when you came up with it, Tiger Woods doesn't have to win the masters for you to have fun while you're watching this bet because you are saying just hit the green. And he hit a lot of them guys. He was seven out of eight to start the round. His putter was ice cold. This is the thing that's frustrating me about Tiger Woods. His leg is amputated almost. He's got a million different fused backs. He's hitting the ball
Starting point is 00:09:16 315 yards to 330 yards would carry. He's fucking hitting every single greener regulation. And his putter sucks. Well, like, has nothing to do with his leg. I know it has to do with competitive rounds played. And I saw, Dan, you had a great tweet about like, this is why he's not going to be able to really compete because he's not playing that often. And your short game suffers when that happens.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But it's frustrating from a physical ailment standpoint that the only thing holding this guy back is the thing that he's supposed to be the best ever at. It's also his irons and his wedges to a degree because he was putting it on the green, but it wasn't particularly close. Like he, he wasn't throwing him in there. Trent, he had 18 putts on the front nine and he, one putt.
Starting point is 00:09:55 He's just not so he was putting horrific. He's just not sharp. You know what I mean? Like the tools are there. It's just, and I know I've said this a bunch of times, but, you know, you go back to 2019,
Starting point is 00:10:04 he was playing so much. You need, you can practice at home all you want when it's under the gun in the major championship. It's not like he's hitting it fat or he's mishitting him. It's just a little bit off. And at this golf course, you can't afford to be a little bit off. The third hole was stunning. When he hit the end drive and then he had, what, a 40-yard chip and he didn't even get it on the green.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah, he wrote up the face. That's the kind of boneheaded mistake that he would just never make if he had reps, if he was sharp. So he knows that, you know, he knows, but there's nothing you can do about it. Colt Nost and Scott Fawcett were going at it. I know Colt Nose was, he's very mad. Colt Nose doesn't understand why guys hit driver on three. He's like, you keep saying it yourself with like a really hard chip show. at a green where the pins in the front right and you just can't control the spin from that angle
Starting point is 00:10:49 and that distance. If you have more distance coming in, it can get it higher and you can control the spin, you can rip it back towards the green. And then Scott Fawcett, in classic Scott Fawcett fashion, put out a fucking image of like from the bunker to the green and saying like, oh, I think there's a new rule at Augustine National that allows you to place your ball 120 yards in between a 20 yard left to right area between the bunker and the heavy rough. And that's where you're allowed to just place the ball if you choose to not use driver, basically saying that, oh, if you use an iron, you're just like going to drop it in this 20 yard wide landing area.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like, that's impossible. They use driver because they can rip it out as far as they want and it just goes out left and you have a chip shot. That was very funny. And then Colt's like, it was, quote it at Scott Fawcett while he was on the broadcast and just goes, it's an opinion. He's like, he's like, he's like, Scott, it's an opinion. He did say it. Colt was saying it over and over again, but he did.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Colts aware. Colts has a lot of self-awareness. He was saying, like, these guys know a lot more than I do. So if they're going to hit driver and because they just want to get it as close as they possibly can, that clearly must be what they think is right. He just thinks a full shot in he would fare better on that hole. And the amazing part about this is, first, I was with Colt knows last night. And he was telling me I was going to be doing the Tiger broadcast. And he was all jacked up.
Starting point is 00:12:06 That didn't stop him from having a bunch of cocktails last night. Brennan Jones, he was with us. And two, I actually talked with Robbie Mack on the golf course today while Tiger was playing the second hole about what he was going to do on the third hole. He told me because I said, you think he's going to give it a go on three. And he goes, yeah, with where the pin is today, he's going to give it a go because most likely where his driver's going to end up is on that up slope. And I was like, oh, is that pretty much where he chipped in from? And everybody was talking about the other day when he chipped in for Eagle during the practice round. And he was like, yep, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So for the most part, most of his drives are going to end up, even if he doesn't drive the green on an up slope. and that upslope chip to certain pins with the exception of like one is a better shot for him than trying to hit a wedge perfectly where if you don't hit it perfectly, it ends up at a bad spot. And then he literally said that. And then I get out the golf course
Starting point is 00:12:52 and I see all this, you know, bickering back and forth. And I was like, oh, that's amazing because Robbie Mac had literally just talked me through the strategy. My buddies that I was with were like, we just heard basically from Tiger's mouth what his strategy is on three, right? I was like, yeah, that's exactly what just happened.
Starting point is 00:13:06 So, but I like that shit. That is actually like, boss it as like smartest guy in the room annoying fucking attitude as that is that's when he's his best like that and he was correct he also is right because he's saying the third hole with that pin placement is already playing as an expected like bogey essentially it's a very hard hole
Starting point is 00:13:27 so why would you ever take the chance of not of going into a bunker like you might as well have a flip wedge in when you're expect when bogey's expected like let's try and make something other he's saying yeah he's saying that the layup is just like not easy and if you If you miss the layup, then you're, you're doubly screwed. So, yeah, if you could place your ball, that's what he's saying. If you could place your ball in the middle of the highway, maybe you'd want a wedge shot.
Starting point is 00:13:48 He just, yeah, he just doesn't have a lot of bedside manner. We'll put it that way. I'm not a shot for shot like a story when it comes to Tiger Woods. So I don't remember if he used to do this one in his heyday. But is he just off the teep like finding the flat spots? Or did he always used to do that? Because he was aiming on certain spots. Like he was never, ever fucking around with those crazy slow.
Starting point is 00:14:10 and you could tell that he would take a little bit off off the T to leave himself with a really nice flat lie. He would go in all the way left, even though it wouldn't be a perfect view at the green because it would give him a flat lie. Is that like a new leg tiger? Or did he always use to manipulate where his ball was going to land off the kid? He's always been like a tactician with where he wants to leave it. But I do think that part of it is just wanting to limit the amount of, you know, sidehill lies that he has. He has to be really, really careful about it. But Tiger's a conservative player by nature.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's a thing. Like if you go back, he's not, he's never been a guy who just wails away. way at Driver. And it is sort of an old school way to play. And I, he said this. I don't remember. It was last year somewhere. No, it was at Southern Hills last year. And he was hitting Iron like all day when the guys in his group were hitting Driver. And he's like, yeah, I know. That's not how the game's played anymore. Everyone just hits Driver. And if you're hot, you're going to be up there by the lead. He's just a stubborn guy. He said it in this press conference. That's the, you know, his biggest trait might be his stubbornness. And I think he's just attached to that way of playing. He doesn't
Starting point is 00:15:03 want to switch it up now. Today, I will say, we watched him on the second hole. He hit it, I think, into that bunker we couldn't tell. We were like, yeah. And we just know that he laid up, laid up. We saw his ball. And he legitimately walked. He came out from around the bunker, and he walked around the edge of the fairway where it was flattest over by the patrons in a very purposeful manner to literally he was just looking for the flattest stuff. And he had plenty of time because Hoblin hit like an unbelievable drive there and had the shortest in that we saw all day. But you can tell he very deliberately was just looking for the flatest land and walked around the fairway instead of just going straight down the hill to his ball because he's looking for the flat stuff. So it was clear on his mind that he's trying to find the flat land.
Starting point is 00:15:52 On 18, I don't know if this came across to the broadcast, but Victor Hovlin's up and down from that bunker after he just watched Teller Woods not be able to basically get it up and out or get it close. He was so in between shots and we were literally, we could hear him talking. walking to his caddy being like, are you sure that downslope is too severe? I think I could go right at it. It was almost like he was going to try to jar it. And then instead he hit this sick bunker shot way out to the right that barely like didn't crest the hill too far and dribble all the way down to four, five, six feet and made it. But he like three times, and I don't know what they showed on TV, he like three times shifted
Starting point is 00:16:29 where he was going to aim from directly at the hole to hitting it way up to the right. And it was very fun to watch. And ultimately ended him going that shot and get up and down. But one of the things they did show that was pretty startling was when Max Homa was on the green and he was doing the air pod, how chaotic the green is when those guys are reading it. And maybe even more so at Augusta because those things are like, it's like reading fucking braille. They're down on their knees almost. They're like checking out every single speck of grass. And he had the air pod in the whole time while putting, which was really cool.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Rory did the AirPods thing today. I don't know if you saw that, Rick. It was insane. Rory did the airport thing walking down the fair. he was the first one I ever do it at Augustine it was insane like walking so he did it before max yeah yeah yeah wow didn't see that yeah like didn't hit it on i forget what holy did it but he didn't do it he didn't get it up on the shelf that he wanted to do and like Trevor's like oh you didn't hit it in the right spot rory he's just like no it's like he was really he was really into it um it was making
Starting point is 00:17:24 me nervous though it's like rory mackroy wants to win the master's so bad and he's taking i was surprised he said a couple weeks ago that he would need some convincing and then like fast forward three weeks and the one major he hasn't won he's doing in the first It was bizarre, but when Max was reading the green, one of the things that I noticed was like, he did the aim point thing where he's standing in front of his ball. And he looks at Joe and he's like, I can't feel the ground like in this spot. And that was really, you could tell like how, how like blind they are out there sometimes. Like you think that these pro golfers know every single break.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They know every single speed. It's just like one little thing goes wrong each time. He was out there being like, I just, I don't know. Like is it right here and Joe is like staying like I think it's right there. I wonder how often that really does happen. And then when it goes in, they look at each other being like, holy shit. Like, we fucking got away with one there. It was interesting because on 11, you know how it is in a golf term.
Starting point is 00:18:13 When you're posted up in the same holes, you watch the same puts and the same shots over and over and over again. And you watch these tendencies. And we watched guys on 11 where they had that back pen. We watched every single guy, multiple guys like Rory, three putted, Shepworth, three putted from below the hole. They had longer putts. But every guy was missing low and left from. that like kind of back riotish pin all day.
Starting point is 00:18:39 We watched every single pot. You want to go down there and just grab them and be like, what are you not seeing here? This is what this does. And it's every single player. So you're right when they get tricked out. And Dan, Augusta has never allowed the heat map. Yeah, so that's one of the things I was going to bring up about when you're talking about
Starting point is 00:18:55 the putting is they've never allowed the laser technology out there. So there's no green book. So there's no like renderings. And there's also the yardage book is so much more bare bones in the normal yardage book. So normal yardage book, PGA tour, it'll tell you like how far it is from the T to a certain spot. And then what the slope difference is. So it'll be one spot of the fairway that will say, you know, it's 153 to the front of the green and it's plus five. They don't have any slope numbers at Augusta.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And it's crazy. Think about how, how hilly that golf course is. Slope isn't a super important thing to know. And Soth was saying today that like on nine, he kind of got thrown off because it's more uphill to the left side of the green than it is to the right side of the green. the course has so many subtleties and they have protected it from being like lasered to death you know like yeah you're almost flying blind like frankie said i love that wow it was a lot i love that too and they're walking like there's traffic on the green scott he's walking past max and max is walking around him am i in your line and then it was like bennett was there it was crazy i know i you just can't
Starting point is 00:19:56 believe how many angles they they take to to read it green it makes me think about myself where it's like i just go up there. I like look for the spot. I do the Trevor Emelman now. And it's just like I feel like I'm doing something. But these guys take fucking 10 minutes to really analyze. And then just to finish off a tiger, him choosing to hit that shot on 18 was one of the more psychotic thing. That was that entire life. The guy's fucking one over for the tournament or was he two over at the time. He was one. Yeah. He was one over. And it's just like, all right, we get it that you're trying to get back to even and you made two birdies in a row and you're like rolling. Fuck, dude. You cannot get that ball in the green even with a
Starting point is 00:20:32 1999 Tiger Woods leg I don't know that he can get that ball on the green it was like impossible it was on the ledge he is one foot all the way back his bad foot is in the bunker he's literally he's approaching the ball and then looking at his horrifically damaged leg and being like is this gonna hold me up
Starting point is 00:20:48 like at that point just hit the ball lefty it's always going to be a layup yeah it's it's I just don't understand what was going on his mind what was like the what was like the the miracle he said they I don't even think he had one he was trying to hit it way left into the gallery. He felt like that, then he could kind of have enough space to get it up and down. That would have been the mess. That would have hit me. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, he said that a few times that he tries to hit in the guy. He was saying that like to the left pin on two, you know, the par five where it's all the way up there on the left. He said that Raymond Floyd told him the first time we played together that you just aim at the crowd and hit it at the crowd because then it just stops it and you can chip right up the green. J.T. did that today once into the crowd. He was in the pine straw under the trees and he just ripped one at the crowd and it hit some guy's chair and just stopped right in the rough. The guy saved him like 40 yards of just the ball rolling out and it going into probably like a little like bathroom lot. Dude on uh on two we watched Abraham answering a good drive down the left. He goes forward to an iron. He just low yanks one hits a tree
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Starting point is 00:23:54 gift. So to enter you simply send us a video of you doing the hashtag fireball rip the nip challenge. Show us your streaming set up with fireball if you'd like submit those by sending us a DM or tagging us on your post on Twitter, Instagram, we'll see them. Big thanks to fireball. Go pick up a 10 pack of Fireball next time you're out playing with the guys, the gals, your crew, whoever it might be. Fireball is obviously going to make the experience great. How about Phil Mickelson today? At one point, I looked up. That motherfucker was too. under par and i said holy shit is bill micklesing gonna shoot something to the 60s i thought he was dead there was a very funny like quad tweet of photos of like phil's back and it was him in the woods
Starting point is 00:24:35 hit the driver off the deck him hitting righty with a driver upside down him like finishing like this it's just phil is out of control he's a character out there he's been definitely quiet like they barely showed him on the cover he's been neutered the only time they showed him on the coverage i swear was on 12 i don't even remember seeing him throughout the whole day. I mean, unless, right, on the featured coverage with Trevor, I did not see Phil really all day. Yeah, I didn't see him much at all. I saw him hit it on 12 and he fucking stuck one right short of the green, right short of the fan is unbelievable. He really has been neutered. I know we talked, I think we talked about on the last show because the champion dinner had just happened on the last podcast where it was said
Starting point is 00:25:12 that he didn't utter a single word the whole night that he was just sitting in a corner sulking. And I don't know. I wonder, I wonder if that's the actual feel, but it does feel like he has been, I guess, I guess, guess Danny has been out there, but like what's it actually felt like with Phil Nicholson? Because it feels like it's been quiet. Yeah, the fans still really love Phil. That's, I don't think that's ever going to change. But I just think that he was burned so bad by Alan Shipnuck that I think he's just, the media is never going to get that like gregarious guy anymore. I just think he's like, why, why would I do that? I, you know, so the fans love him. The fans don't hold anything against him. But I don't think that we're going
Starting point is 00:25:51 to see Phil being super like jovial with media. anymore. Fair. I think we will. You think it'll take a couple of years? I just think that guy can't help it. That's he is who he is. You know, I think right now he's a little bit muted. He's got, you know, there's probably seeing therapists and the gambling stuff and the family and all the stuff going on with live. Obviously put him in a crazy place and he took some time off last year. I get all that and he's muted this year, which I thought again, him not saying anything.
Starting point is 00:26:18 A champion dinner is fucking crazy town for a guy that likes to be the smartest guy in the room but he always talks about how much he knows about everything, about food and about this and that, for him to not say anything, he's going through a little something, he's going through a little, you know, maybe he realized that all the, all the eyeballs are kind of on this live versus the PGA tour, that he's probably, he's playing terribly, and so he's not going to really get in that mix and whatever, but he cannot help it. He's at his core, you are who you are. And Phil Mickelson, for the same reason that he said those things to Alan Shipnuck, is in my,
Starting point is 00:26:52 opinion the same reason that he's eventually just going to be out there talking if you look at some of the interviews from the live events and stuff he's in the mix talking with the media and like he chimes in about like interesting that the tour's doing this now and he was on twitter what a month or so ago he started tweeting again this is this is calculated we said this was calculated when he had the aviators on when he showed up like a biker gang guy we were like what the fuck's this and like Trent was like the guy's calculated remember when we were talking about like everything he does is super calculated this is just he talked to someone he talked to like a crisis management team and they're like go there act like a sad puppy everyone's yeah bad for you and like
Starting point is 00:27:30 crowd's gonna fucking cheer for you on 12 and at the tournament you're gonna finish like t 37 and everyone's gonna love you and they're gonna be like oh we'll just see you next year phil yeah thanks guy and he's still kind of posting on it's it's valid and fair like the tour did make changes so he is still the guy who forced those changes regardless of how feel about the things that he said and the things that he did, he's still kind of the guy who was like, oh, now the tour is going to do this because in a response to live. So you can kind of live off of that. If you're just quiet, the thing people are going to talk about is how you're, you know, a martyr for the sport. Yeah. And the fans love him. Imagine he went the other way though and was like,
Starting point is 00:28:06 you're welcome after every T shot. You're welcome. The players love it. The players absolutely love him because they know he put money in their pockets. And the fans don't have anything against any of the live guys. The live guys have been saying for a long time that this is like a media thing, a media thing and like they might be kind of right again hand up it's great for us it's great content it's great conflict but you come here and maybe it's because they're on their best behavior because it's augustin national and they don't want to overshadow the masters but it's just it's just not a thing it is also you watch the it's everything's a media thing though nothing's real and also you watch the part three contest everybody's out there with their kids
Starting point is 00:28:41 and it's like ah you know because that's real life that's real life media is not real life like You're never going to get 100,000 people going into a fucking event to, like, boo somebody because of, like, one of these decisions. Like, that only happens to, like, presidents and, like, the biggest people where, like, actually, you can see a difference in real life. Like, a real person interacting with you is going to be, like, an asshole. Like, I just don't see that happening to golfers. No one's going to. I mean, we say it all the time. People tell me, like, oh, Frankie, you fucking feminine looking piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And then, like, in person, they're like, hey, you can. Like, you would never, ever, ever going to get a crazy reaction. out of people out of a great example is the uh fred couples and phil mickleson right so fred couple is called phil mickleson a nutbag and that got taken off into into a headline and there were all these tweets about how fred and phil and then we asked fred on tuesday he's like i'd love to play with phil he's one of the greatest players who's ever lived it's you take these things out of context and you communicate through tweets and through headlines and it's so different as you were saying trent it's so different than when you're just face to face with someone on the tee
Starting point is 00:29:47 and you're like, I don't hate you. Yeah, that's true. Right. Right. And I do think the fans that way, but I will say, like, being in the gallery today, I heard plenty of, like, if Abe Anser walked by or something, plenty of guys, the old guys being like, he's one of them, lives scumbags, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:30:02 There's plenty of that out there. That's insane. It's like, there's definitely plenty of that. I don't think it's, like, only media. And, like, we said on. I should have Darth Vader music, like, trailing behind each guy. And again, most people, even if that guy says that, and then he watched Abe answer in that case,
Starting point is 00:30:21 he had a wedge to two feet. He's like, oh, yeah, what he got. So, you know what I mean? It's like, he might at his core be like, that's not my favorite that that guy went and did that, but he's not going to boo the guy. In the same way, it's just different. So, so, yeah, I do think that Phil is doing a pity party situation
Starting point is 00:30:37 with the media, and he knew that would get out that, like, I didn't say anything. He didn't say a word of the championship or whatever. And then when he's in his live circle, you know he probably does more media and chatters and hopefully comes on with us and like i want to hear from bill bill always has shit to say i'm sure he not saying anything this week i bet is so hard for him has to be impossible for him the guy loves to talk but again i saw him up there two under he finished one under um yeah impressive fred couples uh shot a one under uh 71 insanely impressive i know tiger
Starting point is 00:31:11 said uh obviously this is the day if you look at the weather it's going to be pretty horrific for the rest of the entire tournament. Rain does make things softer, but it's supposed to be windy and stormy, and there's going to be start, stops, it's going to be cold, which makes it tough. The ball's not going to fly. So it's only going to get harder and harder, which is great. So you can tell out there, even being out there, it did feel like the course just wasn't playing that difficult.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I don't know. We watched 60 shots on 12 today, and it looked like the easiest shot of all times. Like, how has any one guy that was with us goes, does that water? ever come into play on 12. Like he literally said he just didn't know, he just didn't know golf that well. And like the way we were watching it today, he's like,
Starting point is 00:31:51 is that water ever come into play? Because it was just pretty benign out there. But yeah, it's going to get. 17 at Sawgrass or? Oh. It's going to get, today. Yeah, I mean, yeah, with no conditions, it's pretty easy. I mean, with no conditions, which one's easier or which ones are?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Well, I mean, we all hit the green on the 17th. Right. Frankie, I hit the green. I felt like that was pretty easy. I think 12 is a much harder shot. It's a much narrower green. 17, for as for as iconic as it is, the green's pretty big.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But the debate, and we're not going to get into this because, you know, the New York Islander's person. The debate is what if you had a 10 handicap to make up, to make the lowest score, what are you most confident in then making the lowest score on? Is that the, I don't even. I don't even remember. I don't even. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:38 That was the choice. It was lowest. Yes, it was where it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, come on. you remember. That was the debate. Well, we debated it so many different times that like that was the original debate. I was like me.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Like if you had like a 10 handicap at the time because now fixing Frankie, I've gotten a little bit better, I was like, where would I have a better chance at making a lower score? I genuinely thought it would be 12 because I said that I could skull one and go into a bunker and now at least I'm dry. And I have a chance to then play the golf hole from there. And if I got the skulls or the shanks on 17, it's endless. It was endless. Like a 15 coming to play. We replied by like, Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:33:16 hit it into a bunker there a couple years ago and made a 10 on the hole because it's not like if you're just on land. But then I also replied with like guys making like 80s on fucking 17. So I mean, it goes back and forth. All I'm saying is that today we played really, really easy. I'm sure there's days of 17 played extremely easy too. We all hit the green except alert your top under the water. Amazing leaderboard, like I said, we got an amateur up there that said.
Starting point is 00:33:39 It was just an absolute savage pretty much the entire day. All the big names are still kind of in it with maybe like rural. he's not out of it by any stretch of the imagination, but he shot a very disappointing even par today. I saw Kevin Kisner out there today, him and Dewey. I don't know how you don't love those guys. They were just kind of Where'd he finished even? He finished even
Starting point is 00:33:58 par. He shot, he's tied for 37th. He finished even far. Harold Warner the third, I don't know if you guys read his explosive Washington boasts. Crazy. And if you look, within the last couple weeks, I said it's only going to take it just a matter of time, and we're getting
Starting point is 00:34:14 close to that point where all the people that went over there are people that usually voice their opinion about stuff and aren't happy with stuff. That's going to start coming out and bang, I clockwork. It comes out that he had scathing stuff to say about Liv and obviously it gets painted
Starting point is 00:34:30 in headlines as pretty scathing. It's pretty honest, like honest and obvious stuff about Liv of like, yeah, I mean, everybody's talking about growing the game. Nobody over here gives a fuck about growing the game. Everybody's just trying to make a bunch of money and everyone's like, yeah, that's what we've been saying for about a year that all the people went there to make money.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Very funny that he talked about how when he signed up there, they sent him this like PR packet about what you're supposed to say. And he just like didn't even open it and they put an Instagram story up being like, I come from nothing. This allowed me generational wealth that'll provide for me and my family. I did it. And everyone was like, okay. Yeah, it was a great.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah, it was a great article. I mean, he really goes in on it. But how did he play today? He shot even. I have a question for you guys. If you had to choose someone from now, if you could like redo your pick, who would you take? Who's going to win the turn?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Scotty Shepleer. Yeah, I'm with you. It was the quietest four under, wasn't it? It was like just kind of creeping up there. John Rout's a problem, dude. Yeah, for John Rond to shoot nine under over his last 17 holes. So he doubles the first hole and then he said that he swung so hard on that ball at number two because he was so angry and he carried the trees.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He's like wouldn't be able to carry the trees if he didn't hit it hard. And that's what he was telling you guys in his interview. It helps him. It helps him play better golf. Yeah. When he swings aggressively like that on 18, I couldn't believe. I want to see the number of his swing speed on 18.
Starting point is 00:35:48 It was like he just like wills the ball through that fucking shoot with just like straight power, man. It's like it had no chance to go and left or right. It's just fucking just, it's a rocket ship straight. He is a problem and he was putting lights out. He's, you know, else is the fucking issue is Cameron Young.
Starting point is 00:36:06 That guy hits the ball so fucking far. He's just E.R. out there. So another fucking bird. He doesn't give a fuck. He literally will, he'll have. the best drive you've ever seen in your life. I mean, we're talking like 360 carry,
Starting point is 00:36:20 and the ball runs out to 3.72. He hits one to two feet, taps and burgl. You guys are forgetting about the big bad boogie man of majors, and it's Brooks Kepka. That guy might just win it, dude. He might just... You could pull 200 years from now. Dig him up, and he's going to win a major.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It's like, put him in the Masters, put him in the PGA, put him in the U.S. Open. It doesn't matter that he's been playing live events where the field, a guy will shoot 100 in the turn. It doesn't matter. This dude wins majors. You want to hate it for him saying like, fuck regular golf.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I only play for the majors, bro. But it's like he does. He only plays for the majors, bro. It's insane. I have to admit, we made fun of him a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 00:37:00 with the Florida Panthers video and how he was held hostage at home and the whole deal. And then he wins on the lip tour. And when I saw them, because on the leaderboard, when they take a name down and they put a new one up, you know that new name is going to be
Starting point is 00:37:12 doing something notable. And they put up Brooks, kebka and everyone got excited it was like brooks kebka and they posted he was like four under through eight or whatever the hell it was and we were all like yes so i just have to admit we got excited that adds so much spice to this leaderboard no fuck me no i still hate him i'm i'm with you that he's not my favorite but in terms of the overall storyline going into friday it's like brooks kebka being up there at seven under in the mix with like the the the bad boy of the whole thing i love it The fact that we got Hovlin, Rob Kepka, Young Day, Lowry, Zander,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Adam Scott, in front of the program, Gary Woodland Major Champ, Sheffler, Defending Champ, Sam Burns just won the Amateur Bennett, Rose Major Champ, Moracalla, two-time Major Champ, Spieth, Major Champ, Fianneau, who was a favorite of Kirkmanahan, like all these guys are right there, JT's two under, did you? Yeah, he came over and tapped me on the back and shook my hand and then, yeah, that was it. It was good. He likes to have a good. go at me, so I appreciate the impersonal.
Starting point is 00:38:16 What was Kirk's great? What was going on with Morikawa? I saw clips going around. Please, I need some info. Dude, people are just you got to be objective here. Okay, he marked his ball, and then the ball rolled back when he was already, when he was already
Starting point is 00:38:32 like crouching over it, the ball rolled back. So when that happens and you didn't cause it to move, you were supposed to move it back. So what he did is he marked it in its old spot and then he picked up the ball and moved and like, couldn't get it to sit still because obviously the reason it rolled back was because it was on some like ridge or something. So he's kind of like futs in with the ball. He finally gets it to stay.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And then he moves his mark from where he marked it after the movement to its original spot, which is what you're supposed to do. But they cut the video so that you couldn't see the ball roll back initially. So it just looked like he was moving his marker up. And it was like there's just no chance that he. So you're saying where he where he, where we saw him move that ball up is where his ball originally. was then it rolled back like over the mark i guess and then like like went closer to his like his body and then he took the mark from where originally was put it there took the ball and then tried to find the spot that he so i think it i think it moved before he marked it it it marked it but because the ball had come to rest and he didn't cause it to move you're supposed to move the ball back
Starting point is 00:39:34 so he marked it he marked it to pick it up from where it had finished he got he got dogged and no one's going to hear this explanation no one's i don't care Like, it's just, people are, people who are, the tweets do it pretty well. I need the full video. No, I know, but like general public, like my dad's like, more cows out there moving golf balls. Like, no one knows. Nobody knows, like with that whole story. They dogged him, man.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It's like a bad headline in the newspaper. Like, no. It's right. You know what I mean? Like, you can't get that back. They put it on page 37. Nobody gives a fuck. No, it's just fucking that, oh, there goes Trent Ryan.
Starting point is 00:40:10 They're just, he's gone. Like, it sucks. But, um, yeah, that makes total sense. So at least now it's cleared up for me because I was like, that's a wild clip. He wouldn't just do that at the masses. The thing that was crazy is moving it left and right.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Like he was like cleaning it. I'm like, he's doing that with the mark like six inches behind the ball. I was like screaming at the TV. Like, what is he doing? And if there's one tournament to not try and pull a fast one, it's the one where there's cameras on every single hole. Like it would be so obvious.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And he's playing in a big group. Like he's not like, you know, he's Colin Marie Caller. Like it would be so blatant. Yes. Happy to hear. Hey, Trent, you're back. Incredible, incredible first day.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I love the tournament. There's nothing like it on planet Earth. Go into that event. There will just never be anything as efficient as Augustin National, as perfect. I can't get over the guys walking around with the little scoopers that just pick up one piece of trash at a time with a pole that's like six feet long. And they just walk around and like in between your legs, you might have like a bag of chips and they just grab it. And the guy walks five feet over, puts it in the trash can. It is as good as it gets.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So what a day at the national. We got a bunch of people up there. Tiger Woods, although we didn't post the lowest score we'd ever seen. Got the bet. We can get it again tomorrow. Over 11 and a half. Big thanks to Fireball whiskey. Make sure you go get yourself a 10-pack, throw in your golf bag.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Enjoy it with your crew whenever you go out. And then we're going to be back Friday, Saturday, Sunday, immediately after play. That's all I got. You guys got anything else? I mean, Tiger played what, one under from hole like eight to 18. He was three over through the first like seven holes, I believe. So that's something to build off of guys. He has like he has a, he has enough energy.
Starting point is 00:41:53 He made a bunch of birdies coming in. He was hitting every single fairway. He hit almost every green on the front nine. The guy is fucking playing golf. I also think he's going to do well tomorrow. The leg is obviously bad, but I don't know how much worse it's getting. Like I at no point today did I think, oh, it's getting worse. It's just bad all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:11 No, but he's, I never. think that it's like, oh, he's going to, he's out of here. He's going to withdraw because of the leg. It's just like pain management at this point. Like can he just like withstand the, the, the, the, uh, the pain. But no, I'm really excited for tomorrow. Brooks Kepka, the whole, the whole deal. It's going to be great. I'm rooting for Rom and Scotty. I want them to duke it out at the end. That's like my two guys. I want to see those two guys on Sunday. Dude, I really want Ron versus Scott. Bro, we need a live guy in the mix. We have we need a live guy in the mix. And if it's Brooks, that's the best case scenario.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Outside of Phil. Fuck, I do not want him to win at all. No, I don't either. Not because of the live stuff. I just, ever since he told me and Dave to go, fuck ourselves with that match, I've hated. But isn't that great down the stretch that you have? It's like you got the, you know, you get your arch rival against your squad at the end and you have a reason to be like, all right, Rory or Shephel or Rahm, like, we need you here.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Like, come on. I don't think you're going to have a choice. I think he's going to be there. He doesn't seem like he's going to. Anyway, we're going somewhere, which is Tibet. The next time people see me, I will have driven from Augusta to Atlanta. I will have gotten on an airplane and flown back to Phoenix, Arizona, and then bang, I'll be ready to rock for more golf. Frankie's got the Islander game.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Come on, baby. We'll be right back at it pretty soon. So we'll see everybody tomorrow. Big thanks to Fireball whiskey. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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