Fore Play - Masters Week with Trevor Immelman

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

The 2008 Masters champion and now lead analyst for CBS Golf Trevor Immelman joins the show (41:46) for over an hour. Trevor details expectations and traditions for the Tuesday night Champions Dinner, his nervousness and preparation for being in the booth with Jim Nantz calling the Masters as lead analyst for the first time, and working with Frankie’s brain on ‘Fixing Frankie.’ We’ve also got exclusive Barstool Sportsbook bets for this week, discuss Brooks’ good LIV form, Tiger waltzing around the first nine on Sunday evening, Rose Zhang winning the ANWA and much, much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's spring fever, it's Masters fever, green shirt, hat that is just so money. I'm going green watch for you guys. Oh, my gosh. I'm all in on April, springtime, Augusta National, greatest tournament on Earth, the Masters. let's go Oh I got chills

That got me fired up Oh, Rick What's up my brother I got a buddy who struggles With that shot A lot, his name's Frankie Barrelli So the guys actually gave him A nickname of butter knives

Because he always Knives it across the green Broc 100 Now you gotta break 90 We appreciate what you guys do for golf It's been really cool Thank you You're making it cool, we appreciate it

I was like hey Phil You only fucking 29-99 grabs a hundred. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 at least yesterday. He goes, take 100 and you go fuck yourself. What? What are you that? It's a hobby.

Four play, present right barstool sports. Big thanks to Trevor Irman, our guy. What an intro from him. There's no way that we could allow that type of intro, that kind of energy, that kind of fire from a guy who's going to be at the champions dinner. He's going to be the main voice that you hear outside of Jim Nance's all week. He's going to be a Butler Cabby. He's going to be everywhere.

So now he's on this. podcast. We have about an hour and a half with them total. We preview, obviously, the biggest week of the year in golf. We talk about his win. We talk about fixing Frankie, my putting stroke, all kinds of good stuff from Trevor Ellman, a great friend of the program. And then we got a lot to really jump to at the beginning here. It's myself and Trent. We got kind of the whole, we got myself, Trent and Frankie for the Trevor Ellman interview. Thursday, we got Saw Hith, who was with Dan Rabaport. Dan Rapport's there already. So we're all over the place. We're going to be at Augusta all week. We're doing a live show Tuesday. And then programming note that

we are going to be doing reaction podcasts every day of tournament play. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Soon as play concludes, bang, we go into the recording. As soon as that recording's done, we're going to get it up. We're seeing if we can do live capabilities and put it on YouTube in real time so you can watch it like it's live from coverage. And then we've got two Scotty Schaeffler videos coming out this week as well on our YouTube page. He's the defending champion. So a lot going on. I'm excited to get to Augusta. We're traveling there tomorrow.

And I like to start by saying, sorry, Trent, for your loss for Iowa. Sorry that your girl got just absolutely mocked ruthlessly for the last 10 seconds of the game. But what a run for your Iowa Hawkeyes, you know? Yeah, it's an unfortunate loss. We're recording this on Sunday. So it literally just happened.

We're hopping on right after the game ended. LSU played really well. It was a ref show. If anybody watched it or if you were on Twitter at all, it was a complete and total ref show. Kaelin Clark got a technical foul for something that no one should ever get a technical foul for. And then Kim, the head coach of LSU,

is basically a sixth player on the court at all times. And borderline assaulting the refs and she gets no technicals. And the arguable, the greatest player of this generation, gets a tickey tack technical that gives her the fourth foul. And now she's got to be, you know, she can't be as aggressive because five fouls are out of the game. It was a disaster. I do want to say that. I think LSU played great.

The first half that they had was out of this world. So it wasn't like the rest completely cost them. Iowa, the game, but it certainly had something to do with it. Yeah, I was blown away at the, uh, just at the taunting there at the end. And I'm a little bit blown away at the reaction. Like I get that it's, it is. It is a serious lack of sportsmanship, and we're probably a little bit jaded in the other way because we cover golf. And I was thinking, like, imagine it.

Imagine the 72nd hole at the Masters tournament on Sunday. And Brooks Kebke and Roy McRoy in the final group. And Keppka's going to win. He's got like a two-shot lead walking up 18. He just turns around while he's walking up 18 and does like the jacket sign to like Rory or something. That would be just chaos in our sport. And it was kind of chaos on Twitter and such. once you've won at that moment in that type of sport too,

where it's very physical. You can kind of do whatever you want. I do believe that turns them into serious villains. That'll be remembered for a long time. I would not have done that. I wouldn't want my teams to do that. I wouldn't want the blues. I'm trying to think of like the team that I follow the most.

St. Louis Blues to be doing something like that. But once you've won in that moment, you can kind of do whatever you want. I enjoyed the reaction to it, seeing people freak out. I'm just, you know, bummed out that it was your squad. What a run, though. what a fucking run. Daylon Clark is insane. How good she is.

She's not done either. She's not done at Iowa. So we still got another year left with her. So I'm, I mean, yeah, she is, she has done what,

what people always want to happen. Like, if you're a big women's basketball fan, she has pulled eyes onto the sport that regularly do not watch anything of, of that. So like the numbers for the games, the viewership has been insane. Yeah,

she transcended the sport. You know, she kind of was able to get women's college basketball to the effect to a degree of like what Tiger's able to do for golf where it's like people are paying attention because of her that otherwise just wouldn't be paying attention at all. I was I was pretty much one of them. Once that storyline in the final four captured me, you kind of had to watch everything. She did how many, you're like, how many points did she have? And that going in, they already know she's the best. And then she still has that many points. So, and then she gets the technical.

All of it is just kind of, it made you. you watch you're right so uh so what a run what a finish uh the the taunting at the end i didn't see that cover and i that part like i know that people are going crazy about that on twitter and like there's a bunch of sides of the arguments but like and i get that katelyn is brash and she does the you can't see me and she's standing up and she's going crazy the only weird part about the angel reese thing to me was how long she followed kately like while the clock was going down that was bizarre like i get talking shit pointing to the ring finger doing the you can't see me like that's all talk and that's sports and that's fun and that's going to make that a great rivalry going

forward it was just the following that was like listen man katelyn's probably not going to give you what you want here like she wanted a reaction of like fuck but she wasn't giving it to her and she just kept trying that was the only strange part to me yeah even she had to feel awkward at that of like i'm doing this too long like how do you not kind of read the room a little bit there but anyways bummer for you all right the bow tie i uh i saw so i played a little uh little charity hockey game with the Arizona Warriors hockey. It is an amazing program for veterans. It's rehabilitation, camaraderie for veterans around hockey.

My man, Colin, invited me out. We played a fantastic game down at Mullet Arena in Tempe on Saturday. And I have to give a credit and a shout out to them because they got the Chevy Suburban, which what Scottie Shephy for, defending champion drives, the Chevy Suburban custom wrapped for the game. And I like all Chevys, but this thing, custom. custom wrap with that Chevy bow tie, the iconic Chevy bow tie, popping right on the front grill right there. I took like 100 pictures of it.

It's an absolutely gorgeous thing. And then I now can't wait and cannot explain how exciting it is that you take that technology, take that history. You take how iconic 100 years of history in the bow tie, put it into electric vehicles, put it into the future. Pumped for my current lease to be up so that I can get one of these things I've been talking about, whether it's a blazer, whether it's a the Silverado. Last time you guys were in Arizona, we got to drive one of the Silverado EVs. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever seen something as impressive as that Silverado. It's one of the more impressive vehicles. Yeah, I think it's certainly the most impressive vehicle that I've ever been in. There's just, there's no doubt. It made me like nervous to hit

the gas pedal on that thing because it's also how quiet those things are. Remember how quiet it was? They don't make a sound. They don't make a single sound. You're used to like a gas powered car or whatever, making the requisite noises that it needs to make so you can go from place to place. Those are just completely silent and you can still go as fast and wherever you want to go. It's wild. So Chevrolet is committed to making EVs available for all Americans. It's a growing network of public charging stations. I'm sure you've seen them popping up a lot of different places.

There's over 1900 certified Chevy EV dealerships. Chevy has convenient ways to research, research and shop EVs online. So reminder, go check out those EVs from Chevy Online. Chevy EVs for everyone everywhere. What a week. What a week we've got coming up. The Live players playing in the Masters tournament, Brooks Kefka just won on Liv. I think he's won two of his last six starts.

It's hard for me to get my time, like the time right on things because full swing came out a couple months ago. In full swing, it looked like Brooks Keppka again was being held hostage at his own home by Genesis. Sims. He can't make a whatever that short putt was he was trying to make and he's all frustrated in the prejudice. That was like over. That was a year ago that that was going on because full swing comes out a year later. So, you know, thinking and real. And then we had Brooks with the pylon and yelling and the Panthers game and then he wins. And so I think that I, you know, because my timing's all screwed up, I had a little bit of a false sense that Brooks was out of sorts completely coming into this. And you got to remember that was a year ago. It wasn't playing well. He's played better now.

He just won on the live tour. He very, very, very reasonably could have won the 2019 Masters when Tiger won. And he's going to be coming in here with a good amount of momentum. I saw that the three favorites, basically, far and away the favorites on the Barstville sports book, are the three that you would guess. It's Scotty at plus 650. Rory at plus 700. John Rahm at plus 800. And then I wrote down the next closest is Pat Cantlay at plus 6. So he's twice the odds of Rob. So you really kind of fall off a cliff before you get to anybody. It's in that top three. What is Brooks at? Because I remember this was something we talked about when the live stuff was happening

about how are we going to contextualize how good these guys are actually playing with the live events, as opposed to them being PJ tour events where you kind of know what the field is going to be like. If you have it in front of you, I would be curious to know what Brooks is because, yeah, he's playing well, well enough to win a live event. But I don't know what like what would a sports book, like how would they feel? about that. It's got to be very difficult for them to handicap it. And, you know, they take this stuff more seriously than we could ever know to the point where when we had the whole and one bet going

on, you know, half the events that they would tell us, they, we can't handicap the whole and one on this. We can't get it right on the number that we feel competent in. So we, we're not, you know, doing it. So now I imagine trying to figure that out with the live guys and the combination, Brooks is plus 3,500 to win. He's 35 to 1. Cam Smith is the highest. odds or the best odds of live golfers. He's at plus 2000, so he's 20 to 1. And then you really

got to go. DJ is right there. He's 3,000. Brooks is 3,500. So those guys are really kind of far and away, I feel like, from the live crew, Joachim Neiman's right there. No, he's double the odds. He's 6,600. So yeah, those four are kind of up in there in the top

10 or 15 in terms of the odds. But it's tough to handicap with those guys. Who the hell knows? Clearly the big three are Scotty Rory and Rahm. Did you see what Greg Norman said or reportedly said about the live players? And if a live player wins. So there's 18 live guys in the field. And if a live guy does win on Sunday that all the other 17 guys are going to stick around

and they are going to congratulate the winner of the Masters, if it happens to be a live player. That sounds like something he didn't run by anybody, Greg Norman. unless it's in their contract, there's going to be probably at least a couple live guys that missed the cut. Do they then have to stick around and congratulate the one live player who's wearing a green jacket? It's a very interesting thing. Are they even allowed to?

Do they have to, like, buy a badge? Like if those guys miss the cut and then they're just like, yeah, I'm going to hang around inside the ropes on Sunday. I think Fred Ridley's like, no, you're not. I could go, go away. Get out of here. I did not see that. You know, from everything that we have heard leading up to this,

And from that press conference that a lot of the Livbot accounts were quote tweeting, where it was, I believe, Reed, Brooks and Bubba maybe that we're up there talking about next year or next week, which is obviously this past week and only talking about next week, which is this coming week at Augusta. And how there's not going to be any awkwardness, how they've already reached out to guys about practice rounds and everything's totally fine. And the media are the only people talking it out from everything we're hearing. Those guys are going in trying to cause no issues whatsoever. They're just trying to go in, have a good time, have a normal experience. The one thing that all those people did leave out is that, like, Tiger Woods himself said it was going to be awkward.

Like when he was asked, he literally would not give anybody a pass. He would not just brush over this entire thing. He very much was like, yeah, this is going to be a little bit of a problem. This could be a little bit awkward. And the other thing that people don't quite understand. And in that same thing, one of the comments was from Bubba or Brooks, that was like, I don't in any way, you know, hold it against anybody else where they choose themselves to play golf. And so I don't know why they'd hold it against me.

That's all fine until your guys are suing the other guys. Like that's, you know, and we've mentioned that a million times on this show, but it's like they keep like overlooking that fact of, you guys didn't just go somewhere else and that would be fine. But you went somewhere else and then sued multiple of the entities all involved, and especially the PJ tour at the time last year,

to try to get back into the tour championship to the point where we had guys that were hanging out in their car trying to, to get in, Taylor Gooch, and then, like, couldn't believe they weren't able in in the weird shit like that. So, so, you know, and Rory being served on Christmas Eve, I think it was by Pat, you know, and all that type of stuff. Like, that is beyond, you're just playing golf where you choose to play. And so that's the one part that I'm like, they want to hype it up. Like, oh, the media is the only ones that care. Tiger Woods himself said is probably going to be awkward. And the fucking legal actions that are being taken are mean that the media are not the

only people that care. Right. The media can create an error is it's one of the things that we're great at. But what the media doesn't do, is like force Fred couples to say the things that he's been said. Right. We, we just react to those things. He's the one who's saying all this stuff about Phil and the guys who went. And yeah, no, I think it's going to be awkward. They can say all they want that.

Like, oh, no, I don't think it's going to be. We're going to do anything crazy. It's like those other guys just don't feel they don't like you right now. And you guys are all going to have to be in the same place for an extended period of time. And that will be interesting. Yep. I think Fred Ridley most likely at that dinner. is going to speak first.

I think he's going to kind of gather everybody and make, he's going to have a plan. He's going to be prepared. He's going to say something to the effect of we're here to celebrate Scottie. I'm glad we get everybody back in the same room. You know, no matter what's going on, blah, blah, blah,

everyone's probably going to be like totally fine. And they're going to be good. I don't see Freddie couple making any jabs of people. I hope that he does. I hope that I'm wrong. But I think it's going to be fine. I think we're going to see people playing practice rounds together. And things overall are not going to be that dramatic.

It's Augusta after all. They're pretty good at just controlling things. not letting stuff get out of hand. I did see that, and I don't know if this has been updated, but as of a couple days ago, I saw that maybe Cam Smith was the only live player listed to do interviews. I did see that. And I don't know if that has changed, but I saw that as well.

I saw Phil Mickelson was not on there, obviously. I saw DJ. I saw a lot of guys that are just not on there if Cam Smith is the only guy, which is quite interesting. Phil's a talker. He always talks. He's one of the most, you know, notorious. press conference guys in history.

So for him to not be doing it press conference as three-time champion and with everything else going on, pretty surprising. Weather, I'm trying to go through a little bit of the nuggets. Looked at the weather, Trent Daddy. It's looking a little dicey. It's going to be nice all the way up. Monday might get a little bit of rain. This is coming out on Tuesday so people will know if it rain or not already.

Friday, 50% chance of rain. Saturday, 80% chance of rain. Sunday, 40% chance of rain. Now, I don't necessarily see like the, the lightning thing on there. So rain is just rain. You get that in April in Augusta. That could be fine and hopefully not that big of a deal.

Saturday for our guy, I didn't see it goes from 84 Thursday to the high 71 Friday. That's fine. And then Saturday, the high is 55 with rain. If you remember that Saturday last year where kids and Tiger played together and it was really cold. I do remember that. They're wearing winter hats and stuff. Just if you look at the history of our guy in his body and

injuries and the things that are holding him together. We don't love cold weather for our man. No. So I don't like to see at 55 degrees. I just, I don't like that at all. And then Sunday, high is 65, low of 46 with a 40% chance rate.

So it could be a little bit dicey on the weekend. Regardless, I'm excited to get there. I'm going into the tournament for at least a little bit on Thursday. I think we're still trying to lock down a couple more badges so we can all go in there because I do want that first reaction show on Thursday. that we put out to be like we were in there. I think that's just cool or better

and talking about the experience and whatnot. Barstool bets. We got exclusive bets for this year. I'm very excited about these. Very excited. The Barstool Sportsbook team, me too. And we've got, one bet we've got is Tiger Woods total number of greens and regulation in round one.

And we are going to boost the over on whatever that number is. So obviously the Barstville Sportsbook, we still got a few days till this thing begins. They're handicapped and working everything out. Once that number comes out, we're going to get it all over social. But that is going to be an exclusive Barstool Sportsbook, boosted odds of Tiger Woods round one on Thursday over under Greens and Regulation hit. You just have to be excited about a bet like that. If you're a Tiger guy, which we are and a large portion of the world is, you're rooting for him to play well.

That's what that bet is. We're calling it for the Green. It's Tiger Woods over under Greens and Regulations hit. if you want him to play well and get off to a great start and potentially win the Masters another time, you've got to bet the over on his greens and regulation for his first round. It has to start that day. We're going to be all over. Like Rick said, we don't know what the number is yet.

But as soon as we know it, I'm going, we're going over, over. If you're a tiger guy, if you love Tiger Woods, you have to bet the over because then we're just rooting for good golf from our man. Look, man, they show every shot. They cut to Tiger all the time. So every time they panned to him with an iron in his hand, we get to go nuts when that puppy hits the green, holds the green. So we're going to be hammering the over responsibly on Tiger Woods, Greens, Regulation in round one.

And then the Unders Club is back. If people recall, last year, the Unders Club lost in perhaps the most devastating bad beat fashion. The Unders Club is we pick a number. Again, that'll be released. The Barstall Sports Sports Club in that number release it. the winning score number last year I think it was what 12 under somewhere around there yeah and if the winning score is that number or lower so 12 under 13 under 14 15 under 16 under whatever it might be or lower the unders club hits last year scotty was under and then he four putted the 18th hole in the final round on sunday to have the unders club missed by i believe one or two shots devastating just a crushing moment in the history of the Unders Club. So we're back. It's a

comeback. It's a bounce back year. It's a revenge year. That's what we need. Revenge? Revenge isn't right. Redemption. Redemption. Redemption. Redemption. Redemption. Redemption year for the club. So that puppy's going to be up as well. And then we're going to have for the cut. Am I missing anything else special that we're doing? No, I think that's it. I think those are our two specials. So those are going to be boosted.

Those are going to be exclusively on the Barcelona Sportsbook. I'm so fired up for that. Tiger one. I really am. We can get an early, early win in the week. It's an early win and it's an opportunity to like, it's not one green regulation.

It's not, he's always got to hit one fairway. It's, he's just got to play well. So if, if he plays well and hits a bunch of greens, then not only do you win the boosted bet, but also Tiger is probably going to be in a pretty good spot.

So it's a lot of things to root for. Exactly. And it's not, you know, sometimes there's a lag time on a green regulation. You have to get it in before, you know, three or four holes before they get there or the fair

way and regulation. This one is just, you know what you're rooting for. You're rooting for greens and regulation. That means you needed to hit good drives so that he's in a better position. That means you need to hit good iron. You know, the whole deal. So I'm pumped for that. The Under's Club is a classic.

It's a staple at this point. Pump for that. And then for the cut is back. We've been on a little bit of a skid. We had an unbelievably hot start. We hit like a plus 425. We hit like a plus 825. We hit a plus 9.25.

We hit a bunch. And then we just have gone cold ever since. So we do have for the cut returning for the Masters, the biggest one yet. Frank Borelli, the third, who was trying to survive his bachelor party in Nashville and will be rejoining the mothership once we get to Augusta, Georgia, has submitted his pick. And so has Dan Rappaport. Frank Borelli went with a one Tony Fee now, Netflix star, family man, has played very well, obviously, at Augusta. He had the year where he ripped his ankle to shreds after he got a whole one in the part three contest. And then still finished top five or top ten that year.

And then revealed his ankle after his outrageous. 2019 he had the year where he was in that final group with Tiger and Francesco Moinari before he hit one in the water on 12. So he's had great showings there before. Frankie went with Tony Fienow. And then Dan Rappaport went with Sahith de Gala, who's going to be on Thursday show. Dan was just down in Houston. Houston with him. Yep.

Last week. So he's clearly got quite the, it's an emotional pick for him. He said, and, and this comes from Alex Bush. So my source on this is Alex Bush, who reported to me what Dan Rappaport said. He said, Dan Rappboard said, no-brainer, easiest pick yet is what he said on that. Alex, Alex, Alex, really, and I liked what you did there, Alex, but you really put Dan up against it. I hope you understand. Dan told me specifically to tell you that.

So that was not, that was not behind. his back. I thought that was intel that you gathered and then passed off to the other co-hosts. He specifically wanted you to know that. Okay. All right. It's, it is an emotional pick for him, but if he's that confident, then that I'm happy with it. Trent Ryan, um, who are you thinking who you got here? I mean, I'm also going to go with an emotional pick. I'm going to go with Roy McElroy. Just, it's, it's got to happen. And I know this isn't for the win, but it's for him to make the cut and just to potentially finally get that great. green jacket that he has been chasing for so many years now.

And I want it to happen. I mean, there's a couple of guys that I would love to see when. And he's certainly on that list. He's high up on that list. So you got to make the cut. If you're going to win, you got to make the cut. That's what people say. So I'm going to go with Rory McElroy is my pick.

It's probably not going to help our odds, I will say. But I just want Roy McElroy to advance. Dude, I looked at Roy McElroy's, uh, um, master's results because obviously he hasn't won a major since 2014, the whole deal. He needs the master's tournament. to win the grand slam, career grand slam. Everybody's going to talk about that.

He has gone. In 2011, he finished tied for 15th after blowing that massive lead where he melted down and was hitting shots out of play basically. And he leaned his head on his driver and then the next major championship

he won the U.S. open by like a million. Yep. In 2015, he went tied for 15th, then tie 40th, then tied for 25th. And then he went T8, 4th, T10, T7, T, T, T-5, T-21, T-5 cut solo second. Wow. So, no, he has not won the Masters tournament, but boy, is he capable of winning

this tournament? He's right there all the time. Remember that one year? He was in the final group, Patrick Reed. Everybody thought he was going to be the guy that year. Last year, he posted the final round 64, including that pullout. So his last tournament round at Augusta was a 64, where he hold out, went crazy with Calamore Cowah on the 72nd hole.

He's obviously playing really well coming into this puppy. You know, he had a whole, like the whole driver, and he's got the shorter shaft, and he's got the putter, and then he feels great with. He almost won the WGC match play. It felt like he was going to win the whole time. Like I said, took that nap. I woke up and all of a sudden he was out of the tournament,

but it felt like he was going to win that old thing. And then coming in here, he's played very well pretty much his entire career. So, so Rory, obviously, you know, we can't win the four-the-cut bet, unless everybody makes the cut. So if you think he's going to make the cut, that's a good pick. I'm a little bit torn between two guys. I was thinking Hideki Matsuyama or Tommy Fleetwood.

Both been playing well lately. Hideki especially, they're pretty similar odds overall to win the whole thing. So that means I imagine they're pretty close on the fourth of the cut too. I'm going to go with Hideki. He's obviously won here. It wasn't that long ago. He's playing well overall.

I'm going Hadeki Matsuyama. So the four-the-cut bet, which will be boosted on the Barstall-Sports book as well, up there with our other two that we just mentioned. We got Finaw, Tagala, Matsuyama, and McElroy. Those are our four guys to make the cut. I don't see a world where they don't. The only guy that really bothers or concerns me at all is Sawhith Fagala. He's never played the tournament before.

So I'm a little bit concerned about that one. Yeah. But Dan says it's a no-brainer, easiest pick yet. So we'll see. We will see. Okay. A few other programming notes. So we've got Scotty Shephyr videos are coming out.

And Bushman, remind me here. We got one Scotty video coming out Monday night. The other one coming out Wednesday night. Is that correct? Yeah. So we have first is the one club. And then Wednesday will be the Colin and Scotty punishment pies. Wow.

So we've got a one club with Scotty coming out, which again, this guy's number one ranked player on the planet earth. He's going to be a defending champion at the Masters, Tuesday. day he's hosting champions dinner we got a video with him coming out uh that's already on youtube that you guys can already go watch right now if you're listening to show um which is a little one club challenge against scotty which i have to say he was insanely impressive in uh and then tomorrow night you're listening on wednesday night on our youtube page we got a little punishment pies with scotty shephy we're in calomorcawa we put those two in the same videos that you're telling me

yeah this is basically we took the concept of you know if you have you have you had a five footer. If you had five, five footers and everyone you made, you got $10 million and everyone you missed. You had to do a year in prison. We said, how can we bring something to the table that is in some way similar? So we did with Scotty and we did with Colin was we came up with punishment pies. Essentially every time you accomplish the task at hand, you're good to go. You're clean. Every time you don't, you get pied in the face. We did this series of videos with these two superstars. And I have to say that it delivered an amazing fashion. I think some of the come out of this are probably going to be recycled and reused for decades of

the visuals are insane they have to be yeah uh and you know and it got dice you I mean we thought even they're like management teams were looking at us like who the fuck are these idiots and what are they doing to our superstars here so uh so right at one point so there's we got two guys in this video one of them participate and he has to complete the task that we put in front of him or we the four play podcast gets to pie them one of the best golfers in the world in the face they put that on the line it's it's it's an incredible video the the tension the dramatics the theatrics they're all in there it's really amazing it's all in there it's coming out wednesday night i know bush has been editing this and he's been giggling his little face off there

so um so make sure you check that on our youtube page two videos coming out this week scottie chef for Kalamorkawa, us down at a golf course, having ourselves a good time. It'll get you a little light mood going into going into the biggest week of the year for all of the golf. All right. I saw Tiger Woods. I was going to say. Tigers are on premises.

He's there. He's wearing a shirt that I, a type of shirt that you don't see him in that often, which is, it's usually he's a bold colored guy. And he was wearing a striped Nike shirt. I thought he looked great. He did look really good. I saw that big old smile. His big Tigerwood smile that he had, that he had had me smiling and laughing at how great he looked.

He's out there just walking with his putter and his wedge, I believe the front nine maybe with, with Joey, which is what he did in 2019 when he won, just him being up there and being around. It's already got me going. It made me think a lot back to last year and how questionable things were last year. Like at this point, at this point in the week last year, he still hadn't said if he was playing or not. Right. Twitter, so Twitter gave me a reminder or Instagram did. I'd put a tweet up on Instagram and my stories on April 1st that said, if your April Fool's joke includes Tiger Woods and the Masters, you're dead to me. So April 1st last year, we still had no idea, but we were waiting to find out obviously like what was going to happen. Yeah, it went on really late.

Really late. And I remember he, uh, I remember finally in like maybe his Tuesday or Wednesday presser where he finally said like, as long as no setbacks from here on out. I'm playing. I'm playing and I'm playing. But up until that, it was like, we were only like four or five days removed from seeing footage leak out of him walking all week down in Florida trying to see if he could do it to get ready for the Masters. Nobody on Earth thought there's any chance he was going to play the Masters tournament

until like a couple days beforehand. Everybody thought he was going to pretty much save it for the open. And he was going to do the 100th Open at St. Andrews shows up. He shot. What did he shoot one or two under in the first round? I think he just blew everybody away. We're like, oh my God. he's just back. He looks great.

And now here we are one year later. He's got a handful of tournaments under his belt. Last time we saw him overall, he looked amazing at Riviera. He made the Eagle. He shot, I think, what was it, four under 67 in Saturday's round to get himself kind of, you know, a little bit into the tournament, have a solid finish. So that's the last time we saw him. And he looked damn good. His game looked good. Everybody's been kind of hyped up his game. It's just Kenny Walk type of thing. So we're going to find out a lot. Augusta is not an easy place to walk. sure they're going to harp on that on the coverage and on live from whenever they talk about Tiger.

But our boy's going to be out there. And all I say this every time. But I guarantee you that that man Tiger Woods believes there's a chance that he could win this tournament. That means if he believes there's a chance he could win this tournament, there's a chance he could win this tournament. Dude, he's what, 46 or 47 now? I'll believe that he can win at Augusta until he's 95. That's just a place where he can win. He clearly can.

He's done it a bunch of times. He's done it recently within the last couple of years. Every time he shows up there, it's not ceremonial like you're saying. He's not going there just to be like, oh, you know, I love the master so much. I just want to come here and hang out. No, he wants another green jacket. He wants that, he wants that sixth one. He wants another one.

And that's why he's there. And we're excited to watch him play there. And this man, honestly, honestly, his entire life, his entire year, planning out his schedule, planning out how much of a load his body can handle. his entire life is pretty much for this week. It's like everything that he does, all the comments that he makes, but I'm not sure I'm able to play a full PGA tour schedule

ever again in my career, but I'm going to try to be able to be there and be able to contend in the big ones. Well, this is the big one. This is it. This we get this. You got the Open championship. Those are kind of the two that really pop out.

US Open even play in last year. US Open and PGA, similar characteristics in terms of course set up at least, narrow fairways, long rough, all that. Doesn't necessarily suit our guy? This tournament in the Open Championship, my man, he can contend. He believes he can contend at any time.

So there's a couple weeks that you hear that he lives for, and this is one of them. And he's here. He's here early. He's here on Sunday afternoon walking around with Joey with a wedged up putter. That doesn't get you excited. Then you listen to the wrong fucking podcast. True. All right.

I don't think I missed anything. Did I? Women's amateur. Rose Zhang. I think she's like the greatest amateur. the history of golf. We're actually almost going to have her on. She's very busy today at Augusta National. You could imagine there's a drive chip of buck going on. Playoff. That thing, if you go back to the original and the original battle there and God, I guess that was pre-COVID. So was it like 2019? It was

maybe the first ANW and then they got screwed year two because of COVID. So it's like I had all this momentum after the first year, battling down the stretch. And here we have, again, insane drama down the stretch, getting to see that golf course a week before we used to ever get to see it, seeing how much it means to the women, to the mostly like young women, obviously, we're playing college golf. The fact that they get to be out at Augusta, they're sort of building this history, right? Like the masters, you know, we love it because of the history and the tradition.

And it is, it's in this infant infancy stage still where they are literally, creating that history. So when they do get those moments where it comes down the stretch, where it goes from looking like Roseang is going to kind of blow everybody out to didn't have her best, then found it under pressure, was clutch and was able to get the win. Kind of, I feel like is what that event needs to be like, yes, we have this incredible history. And so, yeah, just seeing the golf course and seeing all the smiles, even the Friday practice round when everybody in the field, you know, they didn't make the cut and they're all out there and they've got those photos forever of them playing Augusta.

what is that two days before Tiger Wood shows up on site to play his practice round for the masters how cool is that that they do that now it is very cool and they are trying to build a history they've got you know a leg up on other historical building things because they're playing at augustin national but they also have rose zang who like you said and i don't know the specifics of it i would i don't know everything about every uh amateur that's ever lived but she's probably got to be the best women's amateur that has ever lived so to have her winning and to have her talking about how she gets the nerves at a place like Augusta and shoots 76 on Sunday and has to win in a playoff. Like that is how you build history. Like we talk a lot with Trevor Oman, which you guys

are going to hear coming up next about the 15th hole. And Rose Zhang on the 15th hole, she went for it. She tried, she had like 230 yards in. And her and her caddy, who happens to be her dad, we're discussing like, what are we going to do here? They decide to go for it. She doesn't hit a great shot it goes in the water and now her two shot lead it ends up being a one shot lead and then it ends up being no lead at all so it is a it's a really really fun tournament to follow especially because like you're saying you get to see augusta national the week before you're going to be watching it every single day i think the event is is really great wild dude i feel like i've been like i've seen her name as the top dog in you know women's amateur golf forever and she's 19 years old she's 19 years old

like what what planned am i living on like night Couldn't tie my shoes when I was 19 years old. Here she is. I'm always amazed too when someone, and we see this in golf so much, the most common phrase there is, cliche, is it's just really hard to win a golf tournament. And I'm always amazed when someone, like she's got the whole tournament in her control, she comes out final round, doesn't have her best day.

I think she fired a 76. Doesn't have her best day, like you said, rents is one on 15, and then gathers herself and wins in a playoff. that to me is insane. Like it's like if you're reeling, everything, all the evidence, everything says you should just reel yourself right out of the tournament. You're not going to win it.

For people that are able to bounce back in those conditions with that, because all it takes in golf too is the second that you think you don't have it, the second that you stand over a T shot and iron, wherever it is, and you're like, I don't know if I have it right now. I'm kind of hitting it all over the place. And to rally and be able to stand up in a playoff in the biggest thing that you play in and get the job done. It's insanely impressive.

And when we hear about. golfers reeling on a stage like that, they shoot like a 71 or a 72. Right. It's like, whoa. But she shot a 76. That's actually reeling because I think the second worst score in the field that day was 74. And everybody, somebody else shot like a 66 or 65. So it's like you can score out there.

It's not like everybody's shooting 72, 73, 74, 75. So she was really reeling. And yeah, she somehow figured out a way to get it back on course enough to end up winning the whole thing. It's, yeah, it's pretty wild. It was incredibly impressive, especially to do it on that 10th hole. We've seen all kinds of crazy scores on that 10th hole and how difficult that thing can play. So, yeah, that event just continues to grow, continues to build.

I remember I was really bummed last year when we went because I went into the pro shop. And the main thing that I wanted was a good ANW item that I wanted from the pro shop. And they only had like one option at that point in the week. So I'm hoping we could go. I mean, obviously you should probably go a week earlier next year so that I can go before all this stuff might be out. but I'm hoping this year they have more options. I think that's an insanely cool item to get. But yeah, congrats to her.

I believe from everything I'm understanding that she's probably going to go pro now. It seems like the move. Feels like you got me. You got to go. But now with the NIL, she cashed it in probably anyway. So I don't know. There's as much of a rush. But I think that's kind of what I heard.

That's sort of what people seem to be believing. So what a way to go out if that's true. And if not, she would get to come back. I imagine and probably just dust everybody next year again. So she's insanely impressive. Number one, ranked amateur in the world and then go win is never easy. Okay. Trevor Emelman, you can't really preview the Masters any better than this.

So we're going to go with a great friend of the show, a man who sat down with Frankie Burrell, or not sat down, showed up to a golf course with Frankie Borrelli and said, I'm going to give you my time today, try to help you to figure out and improve your putting. We talk about that. We talk a lot about the Masters, Champions Dinner, him winning the Masters, Tiger Woods,

broadcasting what to expect, his preparation for that. If he's nervous going to be in the booth in Butler Cabin, the whole deal. So there's no better way to kick off Masters Week than a nice preview with Trevor Eleman. Did you know that 80% of people are not drinking enough water to stay fully hydrated? Hydration, I can't tell you, I live out in the desert. Hydration is everything here. The second that you don't really give the attention that you should be giving to your

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Go to drink biolite.com to get 10% off your first case. Did you get some fried oysters while you're down there, Trent? I did not get any fried oysters actually. I completely missed the boat on that. I've had them before and they're incredible. The first time I went, we didn't get them either, but last year I went, Mincey came down. He gave us the whole walkthrough of the, and great national anthem by him, by the way,

and great flag waving by you to hold the whole thing down. but I can't remember the name of the restaurant that they have there that's on the water at LaBerge, but they've got the fried oysters and they're delicious. But like we're talking about, if you're going to have fried oysters, a bunch of cocktails, enjoy all the amenities that that place has to offer, that next morning when you pop up,

you're going to want some BioLite. So go to drinkbiolite.com, use the code classic. So golf, we're going to talk about anything else. Well, we'll probably both. That's a good question. That's a great start to the podcast, I think.

I like that you got your, is that like this, is that the special pro shop hat that you got there? I mean, I am, it's, it's spring fever, it's Masters fever, green shirt, hat that is just so money. I'm going green watch for you guys. Oh my gosh. I'm all in on April, springtime, Augusta National, greatest tournament on Earth, the Masters. Let's go. Oh, I got chills. That got me fired up.

Somehow, even like from the last time we had you on, you're even better at speaking. I don't know if that's just because now you're just like the voice of golf. But that, I mean, you're really starting around into form here, Trevor, when it comes to like getting people like going in the hype train. Are you like, are you starting to find your own voice on how, like what like what your style is going to be when you start doing these types of things? I don't know. I just make it up as I go along. But the underlying. the underlying factor, Frankie, is that, you know, I really love the game.

And what's quite interesting to me is that I think I only started to actually figure this out when I started doing TV. When I was competing, and, you know, in some way, shape, or form I've been competing since I was five, six years old, just on this run of trying to be as good as I could be. whatever level I was playing. I was just so focused on improving, improving, improving, trying to win competing. And you can become a little jaded at points because the game is so tough and it beats the crap out of you for the most part. You spend your career losing.

And unless you're Tiger Woods or Jack Nicholas. But since I've gone all in on the TV and actually stopped competing at the end of 2019, I've really, really come to realize how much I love the sport. So for me, that's the underlying factor. It's general, it's authentic excitement and love for the sport and the venues and the tournaments and how good these players are. I just try and let that come out. How much casual golf are you playing since you stopped playing professionally? That's a good one.

I'm a little bit, starting to play a little bit. starting to play a little bit more. I've had a little bit of a problem with it because my mind still thinks I'm good, but I'm not. And so it's still frustrating for me. You know, I still get certain situations, certain shots, and I think back to the way I would use to play it or how I would be able to hit the shot. Because I don't practice and because I don't work at it, it's, the results aren't quite the same. So I'm still in like that frustrated mode. I would love to get to a point. My goal really is to be able to just play, to enjoy it, no matter how I hit it, what I shoot, what I look like in front of other people. And so that's my goal. That's my goal. But I just had a sweet

weekend trip with my son. We played Augusta National. We played TPC Sawgrass. So I'm slowly but surely like getting to a point to where I can just get out there and play golf because I love it and not worry about the result. How like watching your son sort of experience that kind of weekend. I imagine that has to help you let go a little bit of this sort of frustration that you're not, you know, what you obviously were when you're at your peak with golf.

That has to help just witnessing him, I imagine, soak up Augusta and saw grass. Yeah, for sure, because I'm so focused on his experience and trying to sort of ride the coattails on his excitement and feed off of his excitement and energy being able to play golf courses like that. It truly is a thrall. And when I play golf here, there's a couple members at our club that are good golfers that I play with all the time. and then when I get a chance with Jacob, my kid, we go out there and play. How did Jacob do? He played pretty solid, but early on he got a for how Augusta National is. So I was quite proud of him.

We played on Friday afternoon, and it was perfect conditions, mid-80s, like a 10 to 15 mile an hour wind. course was firm and fast like it was like you know the greens were getting that like that little purple look to them when they really start getting firm and we get up on one

and he's clearly nervous but he just stripes his t-shot down the middle and that was a really cool moment for him and the whole location was back center and he's

between five and six iron for his second, and he decides to go with the five. Great shot. And it lands, you know, like about 10 feet away and just straight over the back. So, I mean, that is like never, never, ever, ever hit it there in any circumstance. Okay, there's just that is one of the worst places you could leave the ball at Augusta National. So we're walking up to the Green Alam, I'm like, good luck. You know, good luck with what you're about to be faced with. So very quickly, he realized, you know, the strategy to playing that course.

And if you're in between clubs or a little unsure, there's places where you can leave it and get away with it. And then there's places that, well, will just give you a massive headache. So he got a little taste of that. But he played well. He played well, didn't have too many three putts, and played from the Masters T's T. So he got a full experience of it. That's incredible. We just had, I guess they would have heard it last week, Keegan Bradley on, and he said that he thinks Augusta National is the hardest golf course in the world.

And he said if the rough was up, that he can't even imagine what the scores would be. And we asked him what it is. And he said it's just, it's the precision. where, like you said, it's on like the edge of a knife. Everything legitimately is either the perfect shot or the worst shot you've ever hit. Yeah. I actually think that the course would be more difficult if they completely got rid of the second cut. Because in a lot of cases, that second cut, it slows the ball down from rolling into the pine straw and the trees.

So for me, you know, that's how was, you know, Let's just call it 80s and 90. 99, which happened to be the first one I played as an amateur, was the first time there was second cut. That was when that was introduced. And there's certain spots now where I noticed it wasn't there this last weekend. Down the left side of number two, the par five, right around that dog leg there, that ball is just going to keep rolling into the trees

and down into two. little ravine down there. There's some azaleas. It's nasty. Bob Golby always used to tell a funny story. Great storyteller. He always used to say, if you miss it left on two off of the T, there's a delta ticket counter down there. You may as well go ahead and make your booking because you'll be missing the cut on Friday. He always used to say that. It was a really good one. So that was one spot I noticed it. And then also the right side of the fairway on nine. The fairway goes right into the pine straw and the trees now. Yeah, well, there's a, there's a good debate now among a lot of the golf Twitter and the architecture people and all that about growing up the rough versus just shaving everything down around the greens, especially because of the debate issue and the potential of rolling back to golf ball.

And then you get into the conversations about, you know, well, to protect score, you don't necessarily have to roll back the golf ball. You can change course setups. for you was it always, you know, and so people get on the rough, it's like a lot of greens, obviously are a little bit elevated. And if you have rough right off the edge of the green, that ball that lands on the green and rolls over instead of going where your son's ball went on the first hole, you know, it sits a couple feet over the green with an uphill lie, even though there's rough. It's not the hardest shot in the world.

Whereas that rolls 20, 30 feet down and it's a shaved area and you got to pitch it up over those hills. You know, it's a lot tougher. Do you feel like courses and golf has gotten a little bit more boring in terms of trying to make it more difficult with all the rough? Or do you think that that's necessary to kind of keep up with how far guys are hitting it and to try to test guys? Yeah, I'm definitely in the it's boring camp. I'm not a rough guy at all. I do think it has been a response with people thinking that pro athletes or pro golfers are hitting it too far. And so they think that they can defend their golf course by growing thick rough. And since they probably can.

But the reason I say it's boring is I don't think when rough gets a certain level to like four or five, six inches, you're not able to show your skill set. as a great golfer. You know, all of us, whether, you know, you put the four of us, you add Rory McElroy, for instance. All of us are at different levels of how good we are, but we'll all have to hit the same shot from six inch rough. It's just a hackout. It's a hackout trying to advance the ball as far down there as you can.

Whereas if it's two inch rough, now Rory has the ability to go, okay, watch this guys, watch how high I'm going to hit this to be able to land it on the ground. the green and stop it in time. The rest of us may not have that ability, but because he's so good, he can show off his skills from a situation like that. So I think it's so much better. And the example you give around the greens as well, for the ball to be able to keep feeding off. And then what that also does is it give golfers the opportunity to use their imagination around the greens. You can put it. You could use a hybrid, a five wood, a four iron. You could use your lob wedge and try and hit a spin up there and it just gives people options of how they want to go ahead and play from around

the green. So I'm much more for keeping the rough to a minimum. Yeah. Yeah, I think I have been too for sure. You know, I think of a shot like Phil's shot in 2010 from the Piedistraw on 13. You know, if that's just thick rough like in a U.S. Open, he can't even try that shot. I think he hit a six iron in there or whatever it was. And, you know, Tiger shot on 16 when he hold it in 2005. That's like if that's just thick rough, he can't nip one up there into that slope and try to like hit this heroic shot. It's sort of open the face and chop it out of there.

So golf's a game of recovery, man. That's like where the excitement comes from. The excitement doesn't come from a guy driving at dead center and then hitting one to 20 feet. Like the excitement comes with a guy's in a crazy spot. You're like, holy shit, because people hit the ball over the place. So I agree. I do think like our boy Brandel was always on the other side of that.

He's always on the like grow the, grow the thick rough. That's how you kind of defend it. And he makes good points in that. So it's always tough if we're kind of all on the same side. But talking about changes and course set up, I think next week we're going to hear endlessly about the 13th hole. You've seen it now.

You've been up there and played. What are we looking at with the changes to probably the most, the best and most famous par five on plant earth? The new tea is beautiful. It's been pulled back, you know, 35 to 40 yards. As with anything at Augusta National, you know, it just gets done so perfectly. The stone walling around the tea, the trees and bushes and flowers. I mean, it's really quite something.

And the way the whole place now is different for sure. You're looking at about on a direct. line from the T straight through without any curve. You look at at about 300 yards. So it's going to be different because in the last few years, we've seen a lot of players who don't curve it, then they run it through into the pine straw and those trees down there. Whereas now we're going to see more guys hit a straight shot, possibly stay in the edge of the fairway, and then have this huge decision to make with the ball feels like 18 inches above your feet. Wow.

You know, now how are you going to try and hit the shot in there? Anything I can see from five woods, hybrids, to five and six ions, depending on the conditions, how firm it is, the wind direction. But for sure, bring that risk-reward factor back in. And we're going to see anything from threes to sevens and eights there. So that's what I want to see out of it. That's what I want to see out of 13 and 15. I think, you know, from a fan perspective, watching it on TV, that's what makes those holes so exciting,

is if you're near the lead, you can make two eagles on those par fives on Sunday and be right in there, or you can have the lead and just completely throw it away if you start to find the pond on 15 or the creek on 13. So I think it's awesome. The first day I hit like a towie skanky. tea shot down the left side stayed out of the creek and the tree I wasn't far enough around the corner so the trees were hanging over couldn't go for the green had to lay up way to the right hand side to give myself a best angle to where the whole location was the second day I had a beautiful

tea shot turned it just around the corner and had a four eye on it it's going to be it's it's going to be cool but when you stand back on the tea now and pulled back into like a little shoot sort of like 18 and you feel like you got so much fairway to the right between the creek and really the 12th T you've got a lot of space there and now it's up to you

where do you want to be where are you in the tournament do you need a birdie here to try and make the cut on Friday do you have a lead on Sunday and you're just trying to hang on and then you hit a three wood down to the right because you know you'll be way away from water and then you lay up and then you see if you can get a wedge on and make a putt.

So the strategy is going to start playing into it again, which I'm excited about. Yeah, because it used to be if you hit a decent T shot, it's go zone no matter what. I remember, I think it was Bubba for the first time that I kind of remember watching that hole where he almost made it obsolete. He had like a pitching wedge in because obviously the lefty, you could hit that high cut over those trees much easier. And then it seemed like, like we said, if somebody hit a pretty good T shot, they went for the quick T pickup on 13.

It was like they're going to be able to get a mid-iron in. I think Rory said, you know, because he had done his trip a week or so ago. And he said last week, he was like, yeah, it basically makes the T-shot straight, you know, for the most part. Maybe you turn it over a little bit, but like a straight T-shot. And he's like, and now it's, you know, went from a seven, eight iron to maybe like a five-iron in. And if Rory's hitting a five-iron in with good drive, that means other players with a really good drive. like you said, hitting five woods, making that call. I just get that's going driver off the deck.

Skip one over the creek. And then 15, I think last year was the first year that they sort of extended 15. But 15, I feel like as a viewer or as a patron going there for the first time, you realize how just not as easy as the pros make that whole look that that whole is. Like that green, when you're standing there as a patron. like I said for the first time, it looks like there's nowhere to hit the ball. Like if you're a yard short, you're in the water. If you're a yard long, it hits off that down slope and goes in the water a good amount of that time.

So I feel like that hole, too, is especially now since they moved it back and guys aren't chasing it down that hill, that that hole is significantly, or not significantly, but it's a little trickier too than it used to be when we would watch it down the stretch. Yeah, for sure. Look, that T-shot has changed a lot over the years. When I first started watching the Masters in the mid-80, and they didn't have any trees down the right-hand side and just had those huge mounds.

You just used to see guys, even though they had these small little persimmun-headed woods, they were just swinging for the fences. I vividly remember guys like Seve and Nicholas and Tom Kite, guys like that, just lashing it as hard as they could off of 15. But that T-shot has changed quite a bit now with all the pines that have been put in between 15 and 17. And now the T being pulled back last year.

So all depends on the wind direction. Because like you said, that green is, it's tiny. It's tiny. And even though you're hitting, let me find a good way to explain this. Even though you're hitting downhill is perched up down at the bottom of the valley. So there's runoffs on all sides of the green. and you come up a little short down into the pond.

If you're going in with some sort of long iron or fairway wood and you land it a yard over the green, there's a steep slope there and as that ball comes in it just kicks straight forward into the pond on 60. So if you want to get it a green with your second shot, you've only got three yards to work with.

So think about this, okay? That's crazy. I'm actually getting in my own. head. I'm glad I don't have to play the tournament next week. Yeah, right. But you've got, you're standing on top of the hill. You've got anywhere between 200 and let's call it 190 and 240. So we'll give like a 50 yard gap there. You're standing 10 yards above the green. So you have this elevation to deal with. You've got to make that adjustment. And then also, because you perched up on top of the hill, that means the ball stays in the air longer.

so if there's any sort of wind, the wind has more time to affect the flight of your ball. So, man, this thing's halfway down there and a breeze pops up into you, starts that slow, trickle down into the pond. It's a cool shot, but pretty demanding. Just like the shots of the Augusta National,

like I said, the whole round feels like it's on a knife edge. And that's why at 15, we see a lot of guys play toward the right side and then they can use the bunker to the right of the green as a little bit of insurance. They know if they get it in the bunker, it'll stay in the bunker

and then you still have a decent shot of getting it up and down unless you're Trent, then you're probably going to have a nightmare. 15 is the scariest hole in the world to me. It's like, it looks like you're,

the green to me looks like you're trying to hit it onto like a saddle. Like it's that thin. Yeah, it's perfect. I like that. A saddle. That's cool. If you feel free to you,

use that on the broadcast. I'm going to actually. Okay. And then I would that would be great. And then yeah, the bunker, if I get stuck in the bunker, then I'm screwed. There's water everywhere. It's a very scary hole. Even the way you just described it made me afraid. Yeah. I'm just writing down the word saddle for 15 green. Oh, shit. Wow. So the second you hear Trevor say, it's like you're hitting onto a saddle. I want that clipped and tweeted to us and I want to see that. We're going to go crazy. give me like tiger versus Rory and like tigers standing in the in the fairway on 15 over a four ironed his hands

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Yeah, I do. I do for sure. One of the reasons I love it so much. There's a lot of reasons I love it. And I mean doing the TV. I love the team atmosphere and camaraderie of being in a team trying to achieve something, whether it be just for that show or for the tournament as a whole. That part really gets me going.

And then the adrenaline rush that I get about to go on and during the show is identical to what I used to feel when I was playing. That have I done enough preparation? Have I done the right preparation? Will I find the right words in the right moment the same as will I be able to make the correct swings in the correct moment? So I get a lot of the same feels. is cool because golfers, that's one of the things that you strive on is that feeling of, you know, we hear so many great players over the years they talk about, it's just nice to be back in the hunt because you get those juices flowing.

And so I get that, which is great. And now it's been full circle, starting at the Masters as an amateur, 19-year-old in 99, and then starting to play there and then eventually winning. and then going back year after year as a champion and now having the ability to sit in Butler Cabin next to such a legend in Jim Nance. It's going to add an extra layer for me. I've had so many experiencing experiences

at Augusta National and during the Masters. You know, another one just this weekend playing with my son there for the first time. But now, to add this, to be calling the action at a golf course and a tournament that changed my life, it's going to be seriously cool. So, absolutely, I'm nervous. I'm nervous to not say something stupid.

I'm nervous to be able to find the right words at the right time, to give the right explanations of how the course is playing or what a player is facing. So, you know, the last few weeks, for sure. I'm thinking about different ways to be able to explain things and get my point across quickly. Even though the broadcast, one of the interesting things, tricky things about doing golf on TV is even though it's a long show and it feels like it can move quite slowly when you're watching it, when you're doing the broadcast, it moves really quickly. And you go and shot to shot to shot. It's not like now. I'm giving you guys three, four minute answers for every question.

on TV I've got three or four seconds. Right. And so I got to be able to pull something and get that point across to you to where you're not going, gosh, I've got to mute this guy. I can't take any more of this. So that's the challenge. It's so interesting here and you talk about that because I've had a lot of conversations with Brandel about that and how difficult it is to say pretty much a lot of the same things or to talk a lot about the same people, the same golfers, the same courses. but not say it in a cliche or in a way that everyone else says it or in a way that someone just said it an hour before.

And actually like feel bad a little bit about roasting nota baguay the other day because it's like when you're up there covering golf for that long and covering shots and like, you know, at some level you're kind of just talking about the same thing over and over and over again and putting context to it or trying to make it interesting is insanely difficult. And so even doing that a decent, you know, doing a decent job at that is probably a really good job. So, so yeah, that's, that's always been interesting to me trying to fill that much time because it's so much different than what we do. And so many people are listening intently. And that's kind of their only chance to, like, witness this golf that's going to ever occur.

And if people go back and rewatch that final round for decades to come, like what you say is going to be tied to what happened forever. And that's just a lot different pressure than our. dumb ass show here. We could say whatever it just edit it if we need to. Yeah. The, uh, first of all, Noda is a beauty. He's one of my favorites. I love that guy. But, but. Asshole. Yes.

It's my bad. I'm not, I don't dislike the guy. We were just three. He's having a little fun with the broadcast. I love him. But he, uh, it's a trick for an announcer to grapple with all the time. And it boils down to preparation. Look, how much work have you done? What do you know about Macquarie? What do you know about this new driver he's put in his bag? What do you know about the fact that he's shortened it? Why has he shortened it? It's to affect the lie angle on the club.

That's why he's shortened it. The new putter. Why is he enjoying it? Why does he feel more athletic? You've got to be able to have all these kinds of explanations and nuggets for all the players in the field. And so a lot of it boils down to preparation. And then what you grapple with throughout, the broadcast is you realize that you are being, you're being paid to talk. You have that in the

back of your mind and really it goes down to how confident are you and how comfortable are you with saying nothing at all rather than saying something stupid or something cliched. And that is, you've got to have a lot of confidence to be able to do that. And at the masters, great opportunity to say nothing because it's so beautiful to watch on TV. You can hear the noise of the patrons and how excited they are and the sound of the strike as it like reverberates through the trees. That to me is probably cooler than anything that I could say in that moment. So, it's just say nothing and let people experience it. You can always throw. a little something in on the back end after the shot's been hit. But that's what that's what golf

commentators fight with all the time is do I have the confidence to say nothing here. Yeah. That example what you just said is, or just described is, is Nance and Faldo after Tiger won in 2019, where there was a full two plus minutes after he won where they didn't say a word on that broadcast and it was perfect. It was just Tiger walking, hugging Charlie, walking through the crowd, high five of people dapping it up with all the guys with their green jackets on and they didn't say a word for two plus minutes whatever it was you're like that's perfect uh are you pheldo feldor always jokes about that he says it was his best work they actually they actually won an emmy for not saying anything he loves to tell that that story is great that's incredible uh are you

for the butler cabinet of the ceremonial stuff do you guys do like rehearsals for that because I remember we had Doug Gim on, and he won low amateur in 2018, I believe. And he told the whole story about after, because he finished way earlier. He's like the only amateur to make the cut. And then he's like, I kind of, I was told like, yeah, you have to be in there for the presentation. You won low amateurs. You'll be there with the master's winner. And he's like, I kind of go to the cabin.

And like, I didn't really know where I was supposed to be. And I was almost missed it. Do you have for all the different kind of places that you're going to need to be for the ceremonies and the broadcast? and when you're in the cabin, do you guys do like rehearsals? Do you have an itinerary? Like, how's that work? Yeah, absolutely.

We do rehearsals. For the players, they don't have to be a part of that, obviously, because they've got other things that they're taking care of. But we could sit in as the players for the rehearsals if you need so.

No doubt. A couple of warm bodies. Well, I mean, you guys are going to be there, right? Well, let's see if we can get on the grounds. I mean, who knows at this point? We'll be in the area, for sure.

Sure. We'll be in the area for the week. We'll be in the same zip code as the golf course. Okay. Well, that's the start. That's a start. It's like, you know, it's like they're the old saying, you can't, you can't win if you don't compete. So, I mean, there you guys. You guys are in the same area. That's very good. You got an extra pair of binoculars are something, Trevor. We'll, uh, you know. Maybe a helicopter. How's the view from the hooters across the street?

Don't know. Never been there. But yeah, the answer is we do, we do. We do us all of that stuff to make sure. that it's going to look good and feel good and be able to hit all the different things we need to hit. Incredible. That makes sense. It makes a lot of sense. Your pre-tournament kind of planning and, you know, notes and all that, how long you've been doing that? How, you know, how long in advance do you start to start to prep? And I remember, I can't remember which commentator was, but I think it might have been the Danny Willett year where he was talking about like I had on all the top you know 30 players

that could have possibly won I had done like two hours of research on all of them except Danny Willett that year whoever it was so how early on do you start it never ends really rigs to be honest with you you're just in this process I see it as my job and my profession so I'm constantly paying attention put a lot of work in as I was starting as lead analyst for the West Coast swing and really wanted to start off strong. And, you know, even while we've been off over the last five or six weeks, I've watched a lot of golf. I've read a lot of articles.

I've listened to all of the podcasts. So you just keep picking up nuggets and learning new things. And then on top of that, I have all of my notes since I've been doing the master's broadcast in 2020. So I keep all of those. I actually keep all the stuff I do every tournament. You know, when we go back the following year, then I go over that, you know, pick out different nuggets that I liked or things that I could use again.

So I got all my notes over the last couple of years. And I really were actually going up Saturday. Sunday I'm playing the course again, which is going to be amazing. So I get the last look at Bill as to how the course is. It was just as good as can be this last weekend. And I'm on the grounds. I'm on the practice area. I'm moving around the golf course.

I'm inside the clubhouse and the locker room. And I'm just gathering. I'm gathering as much information as I can that I think would be interesting to the viewer. Because there's a couple of things that you're trying to nail every week. you're trying to nail the tournament, the golf course, and, you know, what's going on with the players. But at the end of the day, most important thing is you have to entertain the viewer. You have to entertain the viewer. They are taking their precious time on a weekend to sit down, turn on CBS, the golf.

And they're there to have a great time and be entertained. So that is always at the forefront of my mind along with howls and why. My job as lead analyst is how's and wise. You know, how did that just happen? Why did it just happen? What could possibly happen next? That's my role. It's a bit more of like the 30,000-foot view.

And then every now and then you dive into a reason as to why we're seeing what we're seeing what we're seeing. Did you put this much preparation into fixing Frankie? Did you take like four weeks prior writing notes on how you were going to try and fix my putting? Because that'd be rude. Well, Frankie, I mean, I don't want to sound arrogant, but I arrive, of course, with all of those little gadgets. You know, that takes a little foreshadowing, making sure that I had the right things to be able to explain to you what's going on with your puttick. 100%. Thank you again for that.

If anyone hadn't seen it's on YouTube, Fixing Frankie episode. three with Trevor Immelman. We got so much good feedback from that episode on how many people are able to take that to their own practice green at their golf course. And they're so excited with the golf starting to, you know, the weather's turning around the northeast. People are starting to get the golf courses. Everyone just can't wait.

I have buddies saying that they sprinted to a golf course to just try that stuff. They're all getting the chalk lines and they're working on putting to a straight line. Like that's just really cool that. that video we did that took us, what, two hours, maybe even less, is changing people's experience with a game that they love. I find that to be so amazing that something that's simple can change people's perspective on how they play the game. And I can't even imagine what that feels like to be able to broadcast and change people's experience when watching something like the Masters. So it's got to be a really cool feeling knowing that you're

actually changing their perception of the greatest golf tournament in the world, regardless of what you say, you know what I mean? That, that to me, because I felt it on such a smaller level with fixing Frankie. Like, I'm getting messages being like, you're changing the way that I like to play this game. That's so weird to me. That's cool. That's cool. I had a blast doing that with you guys. And, you know, I texted you immediately. I watched it. My son watched it first as soon as it came out at like 7 o'clock or whenever you guys put it out there. He went to his room and watched it on his phone. And he was like, it's pretty good, it's pretty good. And then And I watched it the next day.

And I was really impressed. I thought you guys did a brilliant job putting it all together and making it feel so good. So I enjoyed watching it. We've got to get rigs. We've got to sort rigs out. Maybe rigs should, like, use it as some kind of meditation or something like it. You should fall asleep listening to that episode, Ricks. Like, have your iPods here.

I just try, like, try and get it in there something. Just absorb it something. It's like the war tapes that Tiger listened to when he was a kid. Yeah, you got to fall in asleep. You got to fix the putting. So here's the issue that I run into is that, and these guys, I think, would attest to this, is that when we play golf, I'm a, I think I'm a pretty fucking good putter. Yeah, he's the best putter in the group.

It's like, it's an all-tourist thing. So I get all these messages and then, well, what happens then is like when I'm out doing a video or whatever, I get in my mind of like, okay, everybody, tells me this sucks. Trevor Irman tells me it sucks, so it must suck. So I'm going to try to fix it. When in reality, it seems crazy to me because when I play matches, even like my buddies, it's like, they just always consider me that like inside six, eight feet, they're like, yeah, he pretty much always makes it. So it's like, why am I, so I'm in this weird spot with that where it might look like shit, but I make a lot of putts, I feel like.

You've done enough daily nine as to where you get so much practice that you're just starting to get better. I mean, I think, I think it's really cool. And the other. thing is what's fascinating is your bad putting stroke is one of the things that has made you famous there's just no there's no point of changing it now you got to keep rolling with true although kegan bradley said on the last episode that he found he's not the best putter and he talks about it he's like struggling he struggled with it he's trying to get back but bet a bet of this season right and he was saying that like putting to that straight line or just getting to your target doesn't matter how you get there as long as he get it to that target he's finding

mentally like you see Zalotoris you see all these guys they'll come as long as it's consistent who cares about the actual path he was saying in his mind where it's like let me just get it to the right spot which i found interesting like let's just get this ball to the right spot as opposed to Riggs's point who how do who cares how it gets there i was really struggling with the point which man now that you gave me all that stuff to work on it's been it's like um it's like i could finally like it's like getting LASIC or something or like putting on glasses for the first time i can finally read a green. It's truly incredible, like once you get that new tip. So, so simple too.

Bob Rottella, who I worked with for a long time, and here is just a legend of a man, he always used to say to me, you've got to give up control to gain control in golf. And that's that sort of freeing mindset that you reference there with what Kegan said. You eventually get to a point to where you're just like, you know what, I'm just going to start it on this line. I don't care how it looks. And he absolutely is putting better. But I have, Rick. If you are interested, why you take it back so far inside.

Oh. So we may have to address that when you're ready. I largely, I think I know why I take it back inside as well. We're having a standoff. Go on. We have two guys who think they know. We do have a little bit of a standoff here. Well, Riggs, why don't you say why you think you take it back inside?

I'm going to confirm. I bet Trevor knows. I want, yeah, I'm pretty, I'm sure it's because of my eyes. eyes in my head position. You're right. Which, and I was made fun of this forever, and it's fine. I deserve to me, but it's because my eyes and my right eye for my whole life has been until I had surgery and it's still not perfect, like a severely lazy eye.

So my left eye has been so much more dominant that in order for my, my dominance in eyes, and obviously this matters a lot in golf and in skeet shooting, as I've discussed a lot on the show. But my left eye in order for it to be basically more center and not feel like this. Like when I'm like this or feel pretty straight, it literally feels like my head is like this because my eyes for my whole life have been so used to compensating with one another. My left dominate my right. That over the ball and over putting, I stand like this, which promotes an inside out past. So I've had people send me like, I think potter putters before was a guy on Instagram sent me a bunch of videos like three or four years ago. being like, if you really want to straighten it out, you need to basically like not to go like this.

When I look down like that, it feels like I'm going to fall over and it feels so insanely awkward. But on video, when I do that, I take it way straighter back and way straighter through. So that's my understanding of it, but I could be wrong. No, you've absolutely nailed it. That is exactly what I think. So you have a decision to make. You either just keep rolling with it understanding your tendencies. And, you know, this is part of the thing that I went through with Frankie.

So you go and hit 10 right to lefters from 10 feet and you start to notice a pattern. And then you go to left to right, you start to notice a pattern. You go to straight. You start to notice a pattern. And then you just, you work with that. And you understand your strengths and your weaknesses and you understand, okay, well, I always miss left to ride as low. So the rider, whatever I think the break is, I'm just going to give it more because I know. Literally what I do.

That's like exactly what I do. So if I, that's right. When I have right to left putts, I always play way straighter because I know that I come inside, cut across it and hit my putts with like a fraction of cut spin. And I know on my left to riders, especially shorter ones where you have to hit it with such a softer stroke generally that I will play if I think it's a ball outside left, I'll play it a little bit more than a ball and just trust that it's going to kind of cut in there, which is not the most comfortable.

feeling in the world, but that's literally what you just described is exactly what I do. Well, I'm actually, you sound like you understand it so well that I think I'm going to have to stop making fun of you. No, no, no. You actually sound like you actually sound like you know what you're talking about. It's quite alarming, Briggs. It's alarming. Again, I think like I usually make a pretty good amount of putt, so it's this weird like dichotomy

for me and my life and my buddy's talking about us all the time. They're like, we've been playing with you for 20 years where the hell it's been. Like, you're always the best putter in our group. And then we go on Instagram and everyone's like, this guy literally shouldn't be allowed to have a putter. It's just this weird thing in my brain.

And I get it. But if I just explain it like that, it's not that entertaining that it kind of ends the whole thing. And like you said, people like my putting stroke. It is what it is where weekend golfers for the most part. So it is what it is. But I would still very gladly like do anything with you around putting.

It's not like I make every putt. It's not like I'm the best putter in the world. I'm just relatively decent at it for our skill level, I would say. Well, we need to sit that up at some point. The golf capital of the world, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, plays host to more than 3 million rounds per year. You should be part of that number. Caledonia Golf and Fish Club,

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find my line bring the straight line all the way in front of the ball i'd find my spot i'd pick it out i'm doing the whole thing i'm working on i'm practicing on it i'm doing your practice drills and for some reason I know the reason this guy at Barso Classic was like staring at the hole from like 10 feet and he made a put and I was like that was so interesting why did you do that and he was like it feels like I'm throwing a ball at it

and it gets my pace down. Jordan Smith but he did it from so deep. I tried it a couple times and I was like I didn't love the feeling of it because it's so far and it felt very strange to like almost miss the golf ball you felt like you were going to. But then around like four or five feet I was walking around the hole and I was staring at it.

And I didn't like the way I felt, but I would, I would look at the hole when I knew that I needed to make it, right? Like I wasn't worrying about the break. I'm like, just get this to the back of the hole and let's just drain this put. I was looking at the hole and then I'd kind of bring my eyes to that spot, almost in one fluid motion. I'd start at the hole, start my back swing, bring the, the eyes down. And I was making like everything.

And I started working on this when we were playing with Trent the other day here at a local golf course and I was like it's just helping me get the ball around the hole a little bit more pace wise I'm fine I'm still working on the line the way that you told me to I'm still picking out that point but kind of looking at the very last second at the hole is giving my brain something like that's how far that is yeah I don't know if that's kind of throwing me off like would you say I should stop trying that I mean I know another okay I love it I was nervous to tell you it's kind of like it's kind of like a basketball player like a shooter in basketball, you know, as they catch it, they have an understanding of where the hoop is as

they're moving around. It's part of their genius. But as they catch it, I mean, they're looking up and letting go all in one motion. It's so athletic and so fun to watch. I kind of like that for you. Because it takes that split second away where tension could creep in. Totally. Or you could start paying attention to thought. Basically, what you want to get to, you're going to, is you don't pay attention to any of the stuff that could come into your mind. You're just like, okay, there's the hole that feels good. Boom. Go.

And it's almost like my brain is allowing me to square it up more because it's like, wait, no, that's where it is. Like almost as I take it back, then once I go to the ball and I'm standing over it the way that we worked on, it's so straight that I'm like, oh, now I know where that hole is. Like the last thing I saw when I looked up, I can visualize exactly where it is. as opposed I look up, I look down. Now it's just been erased from my memory. I have no idea what's going on.

So, yeah, I mean, I don't know that it'll be my forever putting routine, but, like, I think finding what works for you and adding it to the technique and the practice that you work on with someone like you, I think that's like the happy medium of trying to find out how do you actually apply it to your game. You know what I mean? As opposed to trying to morph into something that doesn't feel right. It's like I felt, I found something that, oh man, like, it's something clicked where it's like, it's all working right now. I mean, I didn't put lights out, but like I putt way better.

And it was, yeah, we'll see if it works. It's only been like two rounds. Absolutely. There's just nothing like feeling free in golf. It's the best. It doesn't. It can be fleeting. It can be very, very fleeting no matter what level you're at.

It is when you're in that little zone of just feeling like I could just let it go. I feel comfortable. It's, it's quite something. How about you, Trent? How have you been playing? I've actually been playing way better. My game's starting to come around. We've been playing a lot at that local club that Frankie mentioned. I've just been going out there and hitting balls. I was saying on the last podcast, I got a little bit of the poles left with my irons. I used to just have like that sort of fade that would just sort of die off to the right. And it wasn't great. But now I feel like

I'm squaring the ball up. But I am coming through it more than the contact is better. But I've I've got the poles to the left. So the ball's going way further. My irons have been great. I've been hit my driver way better. So we're on the right path. I just got to, I just got to figure out those pulls left because where we play,

there's a stretch of holes that out of bounds is, it's all down the left. It's a cemetery and it's just, and when you hit balls out of there, you're dead. But I actually feel very confident. No pun. It's a cemetery.

I just, I feel, I feel good about my game, but I just got to figure that out, but I'm on the right path. He needs that freeing thing that we just talked about where he feels like he can aim a little bit more now down the fairway and it's going to go there. So do you-

For how many years did he think he needed to aim at the trees? Right. Does the ball start, lift, straight and curvil. And it goes pretty straight. No, it's start, in my, from my understanding, when I saw you last week we filmed Adam Scott, you were starting it left, but it was flying straight. That's like he's nutting a baseball.

like left center fielded to the upper deck. He's like, like, arms, like shoulders kind of like up. And it's just like bang. And it's flying, cutting through the wind like he's never done before. The other day, like I said, he hit like a 1905 iron through the wind. Just hit the front lip of the green. Like Trent never gets that pop. And it's just not coming back.

Is it cutting, drawing? No, it's just going dead straight. Yeah. Pretty straight. That's what I thought too. Okay. So what that means is your club face and your part, if it's a pretty strong, straight shot that's just a pull for a right-handed golfer.

Your club face and your path are matching to the left at impact. Okay. So you need to find a way to get your club face probably, this is the crazy thing about golf. You've got to find a way to get your club base like probably one or two degrees more open at impact when you strike the ball. So there's a couple different ways you could try that. You could set up. You could keep your grip the same.

You could just set up with the club face a little more open and see what happens. Or you could actually weaken your grip a little bit, which would mean turning your hands to the left and make the same swing. And all things being equal, that would give you a greater chance to have that face just being a touch more open at impact. Yeah, because my left hand is pretty strong. If he keeps a swing path the same, would that now bring back the fade, though, you open up that club face and it keeps the swing path the same?

Yes, because the path would be less of the face. Right. But here's the problem. This is why it's so delicate and the sport is so delicate and it's this balancing act. You always, you know, it always comes in twos. If you change one thing, you've probably got to change another thing. If you kept your club face two square, you started swinging out to the right, now you would start hooking. A disaster.

So the other option for you would be to keep your face where it is now, which is slightly left. Yeah, that would be a disaster. Swing more left. So if you could find a way to get your path, the face, then it would be a start, then it would be a proper fade, a start left fade. Okay. So those are the options that you've got to see which one you like best or which one gives you the best result. I kind of like the weakening of the grip because right now I'm,

It's a strong, I make sure it is, and then I just, I go for it. So I think that could, that might be where I start. Yeah, just see what happens. But Frankie, Frankie's right. If the face gets more open and the path stays left, there will be a tipping point to where you start, start the ball straight and then start losing it to the right. So that's the balancing act that you've got to figure out. All right. I'm excited to find out, though.

It is fun to watch him. I mean, we've obviously done breaking 100, breaking 90. there's been all this talk it's been it's dominated uh our mentions on twitter and instagram when we're rolling with these videos but like everyone wants them to get better and you really see how much of an improvement it's been sure we play a ton of golf sure we have the best access to trevor emelmins and all the equipment we get all that but at some point the game is freaking hard to go from a he shot a 125 i think on breaking 100 the first attempt and now we're like 122 yeah 22 and now we're just consistently 93 94 i mean that's a that's a that's a that's a

wild improvement to play ball and hole. If he was playing match play, he'd be breaking 90 every single every single round. It's a tough, it's a tough ask to say you have to drop 20 strokes in a year and he's doing it. So it's been fun to see how much of an improvement is where now we're like, always hitting it too well to the left. How do we now tweak that? And you see it. It's like you can sculpt this guy. It's amazing. That's cool. He's coachable. He's coachable. He is coachable. I'm a little, Frankie is really coachable. Watching that video, Frankie's more coachable than I am for sure. But I got a little bit of that. Yeah. That's cool. Keep at it, man. Keep at it. The last, the last time you went for it,

you had the best golfers of the world giving you a good luck message before you went out there. How do you like that? That was incredible. Frankie put that together. I had no idea. And then right before we stepped to the first tea, it's like, here's some of the greatest golfers who have ever lived. They're rooting you on. It's like, holy shit. Pretty couples. It was like, if you don't break 90, what? Rinse me off your list. I don't want to hear from these guys again if you can't break 90 today. There's my number. I made an eight on one. It was over.

The other day I went out and I was telling these guys I played and I played nine holes. It was like 55 degrees here in New York. It was like the first day the golf course was open. Nobody was out there. Nobody knew the course was even open. I was by myself. I walked. I played as if I was playing in the Masters.

I felt like I was. was Trevor in women out there. I was waving to the crowd. I was like walking with my chest up high and like up to the T-box. I said I even started to walk like my back was fused like Tiger. You know how you like walk out of the clubhouse and just make sure every step is perfect. I was doing that. And I just played the most enjoyable round of golf for nine holes where I went driver, easy swing, whole entire system. I had it all ready to go preparation. I went driver, fairway, onto the green with a birdie putt. And I shot a 36. and I just played unbelievably sound and just in my own body golf.

And I've been chasing that feeling now for the last three or four times I've played. Like it's reignited, like my love for wanting to like like appreciate every single swing and every single shot. Like I feel like we're always like in carts and bouncing around and driving on cart pass and like rushing to the ball and hitting it and like taking a video and be like, ah, like we're fucking assholes, like whatever. And this was like it was just. me and golf and I'd never felt that in years man like I don't even know if I've ever felt that I really don't it was spiritual it was and this was that colonial swings I wasn't at Augusta national

this was fucking the trees are still barely alive right now and nothing even looked beautiful the greens were sandy and I just fell in love with the game that day I don't know what it was something about taking your time oh my gosh I think walking it makes a big difference you and I walk just the other day when we played huge difference it's just it's way I don't want to say better. It's just different. Like Frankie said with the carts, you get in a car, you hit your shot, you get in the card again. It's more of a golf experience. It's more of a golf experience. Yeah.

Yeah. Take your time. It's nice. And you get into the rhythm of the round so much better. It's, uh, when you're, when you're out there with people you enjoy walking, it's great too. Because you, you know, it's fun how the conversation, like you start a conversation, you get going and then, okay, this guy goes over here, hits a shot, you hit your shot.

And you come back, you pick right up on the same conversation. You keep going. There's a lovely rhythm to that. I think one of the biggest things for you is, and we all do this, but I think you do it a lot, especially because you're on breaking 90 and people see it all the time. But just put your phone on silent and put it in your golf bag, even when you're in a cart in a video. And then it, A, it keeps you from like detaching, right?

Because you're like in the round, in it with the guys. then you detach to Twitter and then you do that much again everybody does it but yeah I notice a lot if I just right when I start put my phone on do not to start put it in my golf bag like beneath my pullover so I can't even get it if I really wanted to and then the other thing is like when you pull up to another guy's shot like even if it's not your cartners or if it's the other cart like get out of the cart that's another big one too is like I just get out of the cart and like just be around like just be you know and just I just grab a thing of sand and like when that guy hits like fill the divot with the sand and you're instead of being like kind of that detached where you're

in your cart and your thing and obviously walking takes care of all of this but if you're not walking and you're in a cart I've like I think those couple things which again it kind of takes an effort to do that but they keep you for being in this other world and they sort of if you could do a couple of those things I feel like it keeps you in the round because the other way you can make a you could tee off and in four minutes you made a nine and you're like what just happened you know what I mean like you're driving you're driving 30 miles an hour on this golf cart and you're like holy I mean it's happened in breaking 90 almost every episode we're like every episode we're like these they have they have no limiters on these carts and we're already at the

green and we lost three balls we have no idea what happened right it's just happens so fast and you know at least walking it's a little bit slower of a death and Maybe you're like, let's not lose this one. Let's just keep this one in play. Let's just hit it right there so we don't have to walk right or left. Riggs, did you just invent a new word, cartners? I've never heard that in my life before. Cardner's a great one.

Carter's a great one. I definitely didn't invent that. But that is an all-time like, okay, you arrive with your pals, you throw balls up or you do it randomly or you go by handicaps. This is my partner for the day. NASA, us two against you two. This is my cartner. Let's ride.

That was the name of my golf playlist was Cartner. It's just like it's the best, it's the best, it's the best word ever. Because that's what it is. You guys are just ride or die. I mean, me and Trent, our cartons is breaking 90. It's like we live and die by every single shot. Although I think the next episode we should maybe try and walk. I love that.

That's a good idea. That's a good idea. It's not a bad idea. I don't know about the filming, but it might make a huge difference. Maybe you get a caddy out there that's helping you, you know. We've talked about that and I think he would have already, the problem is, is like, don't you think that like we're trying to get him to achieve his goal that if we had a caddy who knew everything about the course and like knew everything about his game, that it would be like less of a, I don't know, just because we've already had so many of him just trying to attempt it with no help that it's like we need him to do it on his own. Maybe it would be a cool experiment to see if it works or doesn't work. Yeah.

I think it would work, which is just like I know people hate when I say that. because they're like, why wouldn't you just do it then? But I know I see both sides of it because I would like to do it on my own, but I would also, I mean, when you have caddies, then I say we don't want a caddy and I just like, I, and then I like, I can put all my, like, I'll be like, oh, no, there was one break in 90 where I'm like, we're not taking a fucking caddy. I was going crazy. I'm like, everyone that said we need a caddy or a loser, you're a moron. And then the first hole, I'm like, all right, Trent, I think you got to take a driver and it's on the right side. And I was like, we're too 90 away from that bunker, so we're fine.

And I was just catting for him. And they're like, you can't do that. Just get someone that knows what they're talking about. Maybe we'll get one. Yeah. Who knows what will happen? You guys are kind of inspiring me to want to, I mean, Arizona might be the most cart place place in the world.

Everybody carts everywhere. You're kind of inspiring me to want to just get out there and. Maybe, maybe that's the show, Trent, is I caddy for you. Oh, wow. I know. I know. I see. I've gotten offers like, but you'll get them.

You'll get me there. You'll get him there. You'll get him there. That's what Justin Thomas said in that hype up video. He's like, I would get you at an 85 tomorrow. Yeah. Let me try a couple more times on my own. And if we get to like, if Frankie and I are about to get you in 84, Trevor would get you.

Oh, Trevor would get you. I know. We might break 90 and 80 in the same video. I know. It'd be funny if we started arguing of a club choice and stuff like that. It'd be so funny. I want to hit the time at no, Trent. You're just going to take the four iron and hit it down.

Oh, the fire. Four iron is my is a problem for me right now. but we'll get there. You should go down and play a full, like play nine holes with them and see like how that goes. Like imagine like if you, if you just gave up your being to Trevor Emelman for nine holes, like how low could you go?

And then we would see like, wait a minute. If we did a full 18, you like this is, this is it. This is how we get there. True. That's a good.

A little experiment. They can Zurich Classic Week. I think that's our time to do it. Are you guys going to be back there this year? Oh yeah. We are going to be there. We're going to be back there. That's a week for you.

That's not as crazy, I imagine, as Master's Week, obviously. I'll be there for sure. Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah. See? I mean, try to whip something up that. You might have to try that. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. We have to ask Trevor about that, what poll would we lose our one ball at Augusta? Yeah, so we had a listener question from last show that was, if you were playing Augusta National, us, and you had one golf ball. And the minute you lose the golf ball, you're done for the round, how many holes would we make it into the round? It's quite hard to lose a ball at Augusta National.

You know, there's only a few holes where water comes into play. And you have some space. So if you're aiming into the right areas, you know, 11 is really going to be the first time you have an issue, but you have space to bail out to the right. 12 is a problem. 13 is a problem. 15 is a problem. 15 is a problem. Yeah,

15 is a problem. Saddle Green and 15 catches a lot of people. It looks like an 11. Saddle green. Yeah, I really, the more I've been thinking about this, I've been, I think,

I don't think I would lose one until 12. Because if I think, if the whole purpose of the question is like, you're there not to just play your best round, and then all of a sudden you find out that you only had one ball like Steve Williams and Tiger Woods in 2000, it's like,

no, if that's the purpose, I think I could get through 11, and I think 12 is the first real, like, 50, 50 or worse, because I think you just have to hit kind of, you have to hit a good golf shot there. There's really not a lot of other options. Yeah, I mean, you're not going to have a problem at one. Two, if you go less, you could have a problem. You could lose one down there. Three, no issues. Four, no issues. Five, no issues. Six, nothing. Seven, nothing. Eight. nothing, nine, nothing. Ten, if you snip one off the T, you could lose one. Okay.

I mean, those left misses. I think that's probably where I end up. I think that's where my day ends. Ten, you're over by Rory. But the thing about 10 is that you, you know, with the T shot, you're aiming quite far to the right. Because you're trying to turn the ball around the corner. So you're giving yourself some room there because you're aiming so far down the right-hand side to hook it. Yeah, I think so.

What about, I think that's right. I think that's right. What do you guys got? I got to ask you a question about, you guys ever go to Boston Market? Yeah. Yeah. Boston Market.

I do. I love Boston Market. Okay. So Boston Market, great spot. It's like a rotisserie chicken and, right? That's what you get there. Exactly. It's like a chicken pot place.

Yeah. The sweet potato is always good there. Oh, yeah. I haven't had Boston Market there. Probably 15 years. It's good. It's so good. It's delicious.

It's delicious. It's like you get a touch a bunch of your food groups. It's really quick. Anyways, I go there. I've been going to this one here in Scottsdale. And I hadn't been there in like a year. I'm pretty streaky. I used to go a bunch.

But anyways, I started go. I went back there again this week for the first couple of times. I get the half chicken, mac and cheese, mashed potatoes. I get a little side salad. It's a great little meal. And then you go to bet. It's delicious. But I go in there and it's a drive-through place, right?

So I go in there. And yesterday or two days ago when I go for the first time, as I come up to the window that, you know, they do the things. thing where they don't take your credit card they like send the thing out to you you know yeah to put like the little machine and it's facing me and it's and it just says on there like how much do you want to tip and I'm like well we're at a I mean it's like a fast food place basically and so I put the thing in I say zero because I'm like I'm not going to be shyster here because you threw the thing in my face nobody nobody says anything and at the time I do I feel that you feel

a little bit like, what am I supposed to do here? Like, this is it? Like, are we just going to tip everywhere? So then last night, I go back again and they hand the thing back to me. And it's a different person. And she's like, oh, I'm going to hand this thing to you. And you just hit a couple of buttons. I do the same thing again.

And then she literally goes, oh, or you just hit one button. And then takes the thing back in. And so I'm literally, I'm sitting in my car. I'm like, well, I don't like I, I don't, and she was super nice after that. So I don't know if she really meant it that way, but it came off clearly like, okay, I saw that you didn't tip anything. So I don't are in that situation, are we tipping it like? I mean, it's a new way.

It's a new. That's a new thing at the Islander games. They have a spot where you go and grab your own beer, you scan your own beer and the ladies are standing back there. But you do the whole thing yourself. You grab the beer, you scan it. You put your chip in. And then a thing pop.

up that says would you like to give a 20 and it starts at 20 percent I've just I always hit like 25 percent and I kind of look at her I'm just like what are we doing what are we doing right now this is crazy it's already $25 beer but it is funny I don't know they got that kind of it's a wild world that they throw it in your face like that well you might have to stop going to bust in market drink yeah I yeah I know I know and I'm happy to like I'm I'm more of the Dave Portnoy school of tipping largely too, which is he always says, I, he always says, I always says, I tip out of fear, not out of generosity. He's like, I just want people to not call me like this cheap asshole. So I always tip like, you know, as much as I possibly can, basically. And so I've pretty much

always been that way too. I give the cart guys 10 or 20 bucks every time they clean the clubs. It's like, you're trying to make sure everybody's cool, whatever. And then there I just was like, I kind of took a stand a little bit of like, well, if I'm just like walking down the street and somebody just shoves a thing in my face of like, would you like to tip? I'm like, well, some level we got to say, like, no. And so I just, I don't know. I don't know if I go back there now and just hand them 10 bucks and be like, I'm sorry, please don't think I'm a jerk.

I don't know what to do. I think, I think you're going to have to, I think you're going to have to build a few extra bucks into what you think you're paying for, Boston market and just, just go for it. I think you're right. I think you can get a tip out of me. If you force a tip onto me, I'll, I'm going to give you a tip. Like if I'm put in that situation, I'm gonna, no matter what it is. I could have done, I could have built the house and I'll still tip you for whatever.

100%. I don't know why we don't, why the culture hasn't really moved to tipping like flight attendants. They basically do the same thing that like a waiter or waitress would do at a restaurant. They do way more. Gosh, imagine if you got a plane full of like 300 people and everybody's tipping is a flight attendant. That'd be sweet. That's a great gig. Unbelievable.

See that. Think about it. They're getting your drink constantly. They're getting food. What can I get you? You need headphones. I mean, they're in the service industry.

Are they not? That crossed my mind the other day. Now cash is going to come back. Cash is going to start to bring cash back. I like cash. That's how you bring cash back. Cash, one of the few hobbies or whatever,

lifestyles in the world where you really do need cash is if you're in the golf world. Do you just need cash? If you're going to gamble against buddies, if you're going to tip the cart guys out or the beverage cart, or whomever, you just kind of need cash, I feel like, in the golf world. But yeah, man, I guess we're just tipping everywhere now. I'll do it. I'm fine.

I'll go back. I'm going to go there tonight. I'm going to get the half chicken. I'm going to get that mac of cheese. I'm going to hand them. I'm eating too much boss in market. So here's the question. Are you going to tip on tonight's meal?

Are you retroactively going to tip for all the meals that you haven't tipped over the last couple of weeks? Well, I think it's like, if you can just bring the whole staff out, I got a couple people I've got to pay out. That's the issue. He just done. Just sending money. Yeah, just throwing money into the window.

If it's someone I've never seen before, I think it becomes difficult to start tipping retroactively. But if it's someone that, you know, because you want credit for it, right? I mean, isn't that the only reason you're really tipping is so people don't look at you like you're an asshole for the most part? They're in quite a spot. Maybe you should just start fresh.

Because you like, if you like Boston Market, that's great. I do. Start fresh. Go to another Boston Market. I'm sure they run the same system and tip like it's your first time and then they'll be like oh this guy's the best

and then every time you go there I would just cut off the place you've been going to. I think I kind of have to. I'm more of a Kentucky fried chicken double down chicken sandwich guy myself so. Yeah well.

Yeah. I don't really like Boston Market. It's different. Boston Market is very different. It's got kind of a healthy vibe to it I feel like a little bit more so. I'm not really opposed to it. My favorite is probably more.

I mean, I like Chick-fil-A every now and then. Actually, I had Chick-fil-A the other night. Chipotle, I like, too. Do you tip when you go to Chick-fil-A? No. The opposite man. What's the difference? We're driving through the window.

What's the difference? I want to get Chipotle right now. Because somebody shoved the thing in my face now. It's like, I'm, it's just, it was weird, man. It didn't settle the right way with me. Just shove that thing in your car. She put it into my car, basically. I think Trevor's right.

I think Trevor's right. You can't go to that restaurant anymore. That's not, man. All right. And you've got to turn the page there, Rick. Sadd or... Peloton is more than just a bike company. They actually make a treadmill and a rower as well.

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It's going to be shown the hour before the final round coverage next Sunday. trailer is actually coming out today. It's me spending time and interviewing Tiger, Jack, and Scotty Sheffler. Wow. Wow. Who? Yeah, yeah. Just a couple guys who may have heard of. That's so cool.

It's unbelievable. I went back there. That was part of the reason I went up this last weekend was for us to just put the finishing touches on some things in and around the clubhouse. and just, you know, driving down Magnolia Lane, talking about it, and having all of these memories flood back from the first time I went to the first time I took my children, to seeing my children grow up at the Masters and watching me play and cutting in the path three and now coming as I'm doing the TV, it's such a huge part of my life as best. Wow

So cool But check out that show It shows gonna be Gonna be cool You know Obviously you've got the world number one And the defending champion Scotty Schaeffler

But you don't often get Tiger and Jack In the same room And so it was It was a thrill for me To be able to be a part of that 13 green cheesburger Sliders or what

13 green jackets Because that's The number that we've all won together Obviously two of those guys I've won the majority of them. You're still part of that. They have a living and then Scotty and I have won a piece, but still, it adds up to 13. That's a good group to include yourself in it.

Would have been called 12 green jackets without you, so, I mean, you ready to eat some cheeseburger sliders or what? And it looks great to me. I like spicy food, so it sounds to me like it's going to be pretty good. Hard to have a bad meal at the Champions dinner. It'll be spicy. It'll be spicy. All right.

I'm excited. I'm excited to hear about everything that has to do with that. That's got to be the most famous dinner in the world that's coming up. I mean, I don't know another dinner that has more hype. It's always the most famous dinner, but this year in particular, you know, there's some differing opinions in the room, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Look, the pro sport has been divided for a couple of years.

You've got guys on both sides that have different opinions, self-discipline. see how all of that plays out, it remains to be seen. But for me, you know, I just keep coming back to like this. We're there for a couple reasons. We're there to celebrate the guys that have won that tournament and we're there to celebrate Scotty Sheffler, who's the defending champion and who had such an amazing performance there to win last year. So I just keep, you know, the other stuff is just noise. I keep falling back to that. This is Scotty Shephelers' evening,

and he's coming in there, defending champion, world number one, and he deserves all the respect in the world. That's what your pal, Adam Scott, told us last week, too. He was like this, that whole night's pretty much about

Scotty Shuffler, and I expect it to be, to be that way like it always is. Yeah, Scotty, both Scotty, but Adam Scott, in this case, one of the coolest guys, isn't he? He has. He had the nicest things to say about you.

You guys travel the world together. Called you a child prodigy growing up. They kind of all looked at you as like, how the hell are we going to beat that guy? That's why we were talking about the casual golf up top because I was thinking about Adam Scott and what he said about how when they ran into Trevor Illman, he was the guy who was always trying to be the most professional.

And he always was. And he was always practicing and always doing this. So I was wondering how that new life of casual golf has gone because Adam Scott did say you were the guy that everybody looked at like that's the right way to do it. Yeah. So maybe that is part of my problem is I've always been invested in every single little thing that I'm doing. And so now just to have golf with all of that history, just to have golf as like an enjoyment outlet is something I'm not familiar with. It's like I'm learning a new skill really. is to just be able to go out there and let go and laugh at bad shots,

laugh at, you know, making big scores and hitting balls in the water and stuff like that. I've just never really been wired that way. So it's a new skill that it's a goal of mine to learn for sure because it's such a great sport. It's just the absolute best. You know, the last few, you know, half an hour or 45 minutes or something. So that's what we've been talking about. I've been talking about all of our different game.

Frankie with the putting and train has got the pulls. And we're trying to figure out how we can get this sorted so that you can go out there and have a personal best. And Riggs explaining his eye line. I mean, we're all going through, we're all on the spectrum of, you know, Rory McElroy and Scotty Schaeffler on one end, and we're somewhere on the spectrum to the worst golfer on this side. And we're all just trying to get better, no matter who we are.

It's just a fascinating sport like that. So, you know, it's my goal to be able to go out there because so often I get invited by people to go play these amazing golf courses. And at times it's been like, I mean, then I got to start practicing and I got to be able to play it at a certain level. And I want to be able to get rid of all that and just going, yeah, hell yeah, I want to come with you and play such and such. We can't have a blast. I can't wait and not even care what I shoot or how I hit it off the first tee. that for me is a goal for sure. I love it.

Well, if you're trying to find, you know, a crew to talk to about just hitting the water and being fine with it, I think you're on the right show. It's like they say when you go to like a bar with like a bunch of ugly dudes, you like you look better. Like you like, just by like process of elimination.

So if you just constantly golf with us, you'll always be the best golfer in the group. Sure. You'll never have any sort of doubts about your game. You're going to win a million matches. Yeah, but whenever you guys, wherever you guys are around, there's cameras following. So then all this stuff will be documented.

That's true. That's true. All right, Trevor. Have a great week at Master's Week. I'm going to listen back and watch back, actually, your intro to this entire show. And you might have given me more Masters hype and excitement than I could have possibly imagined having. So I'm so, so excited for Master's Week, 2023. You're as big a part of it as anybody.

So for you to take this much time, chat with us, always pretty surreal for us. So we very much appreciate it. No problem, guys. I'm a, as you know, a huge fan of all of you and the pod and all the stuff that you guys do. So blast for me to join you guys for a little while. Thank you, Trevor. Thank you, Trevor. Thank you, Trevor.

Thank you, Trevor. No problems. See you soon.