Fore Play - Matt Fitzpatrick, Morikawa briefly, Kirk Minihane, and TaylorMade’s Adrian Rietveld

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

Matt Fitzpatrick. Collin Morikawa. Kirk Minihane. TaylorMade Club guru Adrian Rietveld. It’s a packed one; we’re live from The PLAYERS. Full interview with Fitz (19:46-46:17) discussing his Netflix portrayal and if LIV’ers should be allowed back. Collin Morikawa interrupts to address his Fore Man Scramble availability. Adrian Rietveld (49:09-01:23:40) details fitting Kurt Kitayama before the API victory and bringing on Nelly Korda. Notorious gamblers Riggs and Kirk Minihane (01:25:19-1:55:24) debut the unnamed golf gambling show, giving picks for this week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he always knives to the cross the green.

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Harry. Harry Potter. Radcliffe, Rappaport and Frankie Borelli. We are on the grounds at TPC Sawgrass. It's the Players Week. We're in front of an amazing clubhouse here. I don't know how we're standing here. I think I say that when we have our guest who is joining us very shortly.

We got a couple of guests. We've got a lot of guests. But Adrian Rittfeld. Yep. He is the Club Whisperer for Taylor Made. He tells amazing stories. We've always had him on before these big tournaments, but he tells amazing stories about working with Kurt Kittiyama.

week grinding over what driver he's going to use with three ways he's going to use and the guy fucking wins now we're working with rory switching him over to a new driver and the whole deal who he likes this week and the whole entire stuff is amazing to hear from adrian we also have matthew fitzpatrick on the show with danny rappaport an amazing interview as always and then we have a gambling segment brought to you by kurt minahan kirk i just said kurt sorry kurt it's kirk minnehan i was i had kurt kitty on he's going to love that kirk minahan and riggsie boy Sam Bezoin. They do a little new segment that they're trying to work out, and apparently it's really good. Kirk has been red hot. Red hot. I did take it last week. Top 10 Ricky Fowler at Bay Hill. Didn't work out.

But before that, he's just been on fire, so much so that he wanted to do a golf gambling show. So he's doing one now. So listen to his picks because he's been on fire. You and Maddie Fitz. Yeah. You got a lot of stuff coming out with Maddie Fitz. Yeah, we've got a lot of stuff coming out of Maddie Fitz. Yeah, we've been teasing these sort of new video concepts that I've been I was the first one. I think people are going to love it. I think people are going to love it. We did it in his rental house, which was right on the beach. Alex Bush was with me. It was just a beautiful home, a beautiful modern home with floor to ceiling windows right on the water.

The sun was setting, and life's good as the raining U.S. Open champion. We're not going to suck you off too much, but I think you're fine on your stride right now. I think we've talked about this a lot. We've been pretty open about it. Like Danny on the show, it was different. It was like him joining the brand was at a time where like golf literally, you said you signed the day after the tour championship. So, I mean, that's tough to be the insider guy, the guy that we brought on to

give us all this extra knowledge on the game of golf and the PGA tour and like bring a new spin when there literally wasn't a PGA tour and a new spin. So now that we're off and running, you're getting guys like Kirk Kiddiama the second that he walks off the 18th green. You're getting these guys that we never would have had access to. It's fucking awesome for our listeners. We got Lurch back in the mix for a lot of videos. That video is crushing it.

That video's crushing a Billy Horshowell. Lurch is officially back. He's going to do a whole video. talking about how he's back. So he's back with the videos. Danny's crushing it with this new fucking Maddie Fitz video is insane. We're so excited to get that to come out. So with all that said, the players championship.

Oh, I guess we'll just talk about, we haven't talked about the Billy Horshiel video yet. We didn't want to tease it. Yeah, well, how did he compare to what you guys were expecting? In terms of his game or his personality? His personality. I mean, everybody kind of knows the reputation he has just of the clips that you see from golf tournaments. He runs hot. Yeah, he runs hot.

And we've obviously had history with him. We've tweeted about it. Um, he came, put that in the video. Did you notice that? Yeah. Did you watch it? Oh yeah. They put us calling him a psychopath.

So yeah. Yeah. And we, we had him on the show, what, like a year ago. And the first thing he said was like, well, this will be very interesting because he knows what people say. And then we played with him out here at TBC Sawgrass. And he was the greatest guy ever. Really?

It all came together very fast. Dr. Brett McKay facilitated it. Two days before we were like, hey, Billy, would you want to play us in a four-man scramble? And he's like, yeah, I'll come out there and I'll give you 45 hours of my time. and no he was very very cool he still had some of his Billy Horshal

moments while playing us that's good you want that absolutely getting out of the straw he comes up short he goes fuck Billy fuck you he calls himself Billy a lot he does but we've talked about that with Brett McCabe and John Rom about how they like you don't want to change who you are because who you are is a very professional and very successful golfer yeah so like keep doing that

and just funnel it in a right way and I really can't say enough about how great Billy was he was very nice very cool told a bunch of stories the feed mainly the feedback we've gotten from the video from people who have watched are just like I'm a billy guy now that's why people all the approach should do these videos because they get so many fans I know so many when you're a fringe like do I like that guy or not like that guy kind of guy you got to do that I mean ROM is like everyone loves ROM now you got to do those videos um the course when we played it saw grass obviously no breaking news at this point we won the match um we were

up big and then we kind of slip there was a lot of slipping going on we were slipping to slide in and then we ended up going to 17 which all in all was a great thing that we actually got to play 17 in a match where only one up. Like that was crazy that that got to that point. Trent Ryan hit the green. I hit the green. Just a really big moment for me because I was very nervous. We were all very nervous.

I just caught the right side. If it were a Sunday pin, it'd be a tap in. Really? Right over the bunker there? Right over the bunker. Nice. You know, the rest of us kind. You didn't end up on.

I'm dry, but I'm on the fringe. If I were you, I would say I hit the green. You're on land. on the land. It's not a green regulation though. You're not wet. Riggs ended up. Riggs was on the green. Riggs on the green right in front of the fringe and Lurch. Lurch was top of it. Lurch was, I mean, you needed one of those. He just, it was a disaster. He's not here to defend himself, but Lurch is playing some horrific golf right now.

He shot like a 93 at Pebble and like he was off the planet. He didn't really play that well at Spanish Bay. He got trounced by Josh Isner and some of the singles from the Dabod Classic. We'll save all the Dad Bot Classic stuff for when Riggs is back because I don't want to talk about that too much, but we did win that by classic. I lost. You lost. I'm on the other team. So you lurch and rigs on one team. Yes. Todd Martin on that team. Yeah, it was just a really good time.

I played really well. Trent actually played really well. Lurch did not. Dude, the course is really, really difficult. TBC Sawgrass is an iconic course. You know every single hole when you're playing it. You've played the video games. You've done the whole entire thing. What's, Danny Rap, you've been out here for a few days.

You've been about here all week. What's sort of your takeaway so far of the, the property, how it feels. Yeah. They're doing a good job, I think, of not trying to push the major stuff anymore. And Adrian kind of talked about this. Like, you know, this tournament doesn't need to be anything different than what it already is. That was a really interesting point that Adrian made.

I hadn't heard that. It's like, you almost, you want to be called the fifth major because people think it's so important that they think it should be a major. But also, it's the players. It's a different category. If you're talking about someone's professional career, you say they won this many majors, they won this many players. Right.

Yeah. There's no need to try to combine those two. Look, I'm a big. fan of the big fields and the cut the old school format that's here and it's going to stay here and this feels like a really really pure test of golf and like adrian was saying it doesn't favor one type of player it's not like a bomber has an advantage it's not like you know that there's one type of guy who's won here so there's there's 25 guys who can

win this week and i think we're going to see another just electric leaderboard and a great week for golf did you guys talk about the cut situation on tuesday show yeah we did okay we did we talked about a lot i'm i'm not a fan of no cuts they're trying to get rid of our bet. We're trying to get rid of our weekly bet. We saw that we were gaining some steam and the, and the league is taking it away from us. What's going on? They, we started a for the cut bet that we do every week. We were on fire. We're not so much on fire anymore, I will say. But then, it's like, they, then the biggest change in golf, they got rid of the cuts. That's insane. Yeah. You know, I think, I don't have a problem with the limited field. People listen, I don't need

to go into this. They know how I feel about it, but this is a good week. Brian Harmon fucked me in the last. Dead last. Dead last. Dead last. dead fucking last. I said he was going to go low on the, on the scorecard, but he went low on the leaderboard. If you looked at it and you're scrolling, I couldn't believe that tiny guy was at the bottom of that,

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man. And I don't know if that's it's my first time here, so everything's new to me. Oh, you haven't been to the players. Never been to the players. Like I was saying walking through like the entrance, you hear all the music coming out of the flowers. It's very Augusta-like where everything's pure and manicured. There's not a blade of grass

out of position. And yeah, the course looks great. The stadium seating around 17 is fucking amazing. It's mind-blowing. Everyone's sitting on that hill is so cool. The grass is so luscious, it feels fake. You can't believe that this place is real. And yeah,

it might be the best viewing course. Oh, yeah. On tour. And that's one of the reasons it's called stadium is because they built it with fans in mind. Right. So every hole is sort of in like a little bit of a valley. So there's really, you're never not going to be able to see. Our merch is in the tent. Just crazy, man. On the we rode

in the car with Pilar on the way here. We're 50% sold already. It's Wednesday it's Wednesday morning. Now, we've gotten a lot of messages. Like, is it sold online? Like, why? I also if we get there on Sunday, why is it not there? This is like our first go-around of this thing. It's kind of a proof of concept being like,

can we sell your guys merch in a professional golf setting? Yeah, and I want to be clear that we're not buying low amounts. Like the waste management sold out on Friday. The players bought four times as much. Exactly. The waste man, yes. So it's like we're not buying a small amount on purpose. It's like we're getting more in there.

And they also, they buy a fixed number. So it's not like if it's not like if we're sold out, Yo. Colmore Cowell was a bad tip. Can we just say? Can we have you say like one word and then we can use you as a special guest? Four man scramble. Announce the date. Announce the date. 2026, 2026 four man scramble. Call on a car.

Wins five. You're the guy from full swing. You know what? My dog gets noticed, I think, more than I do. You know what? I think I figured something out. You just figured something out just now? Yeah, like earlier this week.

All right. It's a secret. Top secret information. Yeah, it's top secret. Always with secrets. It's nice when you don't think about it. You're going to go from the miscut to a win this week? I mean, that'd be nice.

Why not? We've done it before. I have done it before. When did you do it? Uh, Traveler's workday. You're members. This guy keeps her seats. I can love this guy.

See ya. He's got something else that other people just got a little pizzazz. Yeah. He's got like, I'm going to murder you in your sleep type of like, with a small. Killer instinct. Yeah. Like, I'm fucking Colin Morcar. Yeah.

It's like he's the look in his eye, but he's never going to say it. No. But he had a look in his eye. That 2026. That's guy. You can walk right through, man. We want you on that camera. Come on through.

It's fine. That's no problem. Uh, 2026, four-minute scramble hurt my feelings a little bit. Yeah, that's all right. We're going to get it sooner. We're going to get him. We're going to get him. He wants it.

That's what's going to. He told me to check in after the after Zurich. Okay. He also said check in the off season and then he said check in. Listen, he's a busy guy. These guys schedules are insane. Yeah. You watch in full swing in the Netflix stock.

He's spending a full day touching fabrics. I mean, come on. The guy's got a lot of things going on. With our merch, amazing. So yes, we did order four times as much here. We have future plans to be in more merchandise tents where you're actually going to be able to buy it online. So that's really exciting going forward. Yeah.

So, you know, our merchandise team has been killing it. Quinn on the whole wholesale and partnership side has been absolutely crushing it. So thank you to them. Thank you to everyone wearing our merchandise here at the event. If you're listening and you bought something. amazing. We're seeing so many people wearing the hats, the hoodies. I mean, the hoodies are already selling out. There's no more small. There's no more mediums. The pole sold out on on Saturday, the week before the tournament, because they opened this place up.

Thursday, Thursday. Yeah, they open it Friday Saturday. No ticket sold. You're allowed to just walk in. Yeah, because I guess it was a different entrance. So the merch tent was open before the course was even open. Sold out 25% before the thing even started. So amazing. It's, it's, you walk into that place and you see like these huge structures. Nike has a store in there. I mean, pillars and huge fucking displays. And then you look to the left and there's Barstool Gough and then we have six racks.

We're right off the entrance. We're right off like the walkway. And the place is hounded. And then Nike had like zero people in that spot. It's like what's happening? Why? Why? Like why is this happening to us?

Like why are people buying it? It's crazy. Nike's not, you know? I mean, I love Nike stuff, but people are you going to go on Nike? People want a rep. No, absolutely not.

It still sell some Nike stuff. But, I mean, it's just we got the players right across the chest. It's amazing. We can go on and on about it. So thank you to everybody. Yeah, I mean, I'm really excited for this. I can't wait to watch this on TV. I think this is one of the best tournaments that you can possibly watch.

You sit down. It's the players. It means something. These guys all want to win it. Colin just figured something out. He's buzzing over to the fucking truck wherever he's going to do now and tell someone what he just figured out. I'm juiced up right now. I am absolutely juiced up.

I can tell. Yeah. It's an exciting time. I don't know. Was there anything else to get to? I got really nothing else. I mean. Tossed to those interviews.

Jacksonville has been good. It's kind of like a nice. It's kind of like a cool area to come to. I always thought it was like shitty. No, Jack's Beach is definitely cool. A lot of young people. I like it. I mean, good time to go out there too.

All right. Anything else happened to us? I mean, we've been traveling time, but we can talk about that. Oh, we went to Pebble. We have been traveling a ton. Went to the Barclips off a hurdle. Yeah, I got pulled over.

Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah. Give us a breakdown. So we really stressed about getting to that Barstall Classic. We talked about it on the podcast at length. It took a red eye, right? No. So we ended up playing Spanish Bay on Sunday morning.

We had a 710 tea time. Dude, listen to this. Me and Trent room together, he snores a lot. But that's something that's something I got to go to the doctor about. I saw the AirPods in on noise reduction. Oh, God. I mean, it was crazy. Dude, we have a 710 tea time at 7.

7 o'clock we left the hotel and as we're walking out a ball hits the fucking hotel hits a window and just falls into my hand. Now this is 200 to 300 yards left of the first T-S-Bash match and it was one of our guys in the Dad-Bodd-Back. I caught his ball. Did you figure out who it was? Yeah, this guy Delaney. Delaney. Like a fucking lunatic that used to work with, uh, I used to work with Lurch at another company. Crazy.

I caught his ball. Dude, it literally I didn't even have to. It was like as my arm was swinging. So that's how we started that day. 710 tea time. Played Spanish Bay. We have a 150 flight from Monterey to Dallas. That got in around like 7.30.

8.45 flight from Dallas to Charleston. That got us in around like a 12. We had about an hour situation trying to get into a rental car. Now we get into a rental car around like 1250, 1, 2 hour drive up to Myrtle Beach. Yep. We get there around 3 a.m. Got to be out of the hotel by 7 a.m. to make it to the Myrtle Beach event.

Shout to everybody who came, by the way. Shout to everybody who came. It was the first Barsoe Classic of the Year. Amazing. Dude, we have like three hours of sleep. We're running on fumes at this point, all that travel. We're like, dude, let's try and make it just before morning announcements. We told all of our guys behind the scenes we're going to be there.

You were there making the announcements, telling all the rules, all that stuff. It's around like 830, let's say it is. 829, we're rolling in. And I'm driving and I'm, we're going, we're going. And all the Barstoo Classics in the parking lot. And they're all, they have their phones out. And I'm like, holy shit. This is a moment.

I'm like, they love us. Like, we're fucking rock stars. I was about to get out of the car and run and grab the mic and sing the national anthem. And as I jump out of the car, someone screams, get back in the car. And I turn around. It's a police officer. And I was like, he has all the lights on. I'm like, oh, shit.

So I jump back in the car. Trent gets back in the car. He comes over. He goes, you were speeding in here. He's like, license registration. I'm like, dude, we got 150 guys staring at us right now. Like, I'm sorry. Like, I don't know what else.

I didn't see you. Why, you told him. You were like, I'm the show. I didn't say that. I'm like, bro, to be honest, like, I didn't mean, I wasn't trying to be dangerous. I'm trying, like this that we were looking at. I'm trying to get to this. Well, the other part of it is, too, is that, so we had packed all of our gear in the back.

We didn't see the back. And you can't see behind you with all the clubs and the luggage. And he didn't hit the siren. Right. The noise wasn't on. Right. So we didn't see him. And then when we got out, he was like, get back in there.

We're like, we didn't even know you're there. Like, we're not trying to be assholes. Yeah. We'll get in. We'll give you everything. He let us off with a warning, which was great. It was good. But yeah, it was just all. People thought we had a police escort. I thought you had a police escort. When you guys were rolling in, I was like, wow, these guys are ball-in. In reality, we just got pulled over. In classic, me fashion, I'm getting pulled over in front of the whole Barstow classic, out of control. So that was just the most wild situation. And that night, we drove down six hours of Jacksonville. That night, we drive down at Jacksonville. So that's the story behind getting almost arrested and tased because I jumped out of the car. The guy's like, whoa! He, like, grabbed something. He's like, what are you doing? Why are you doing? Why?

why you, why you, he didn't know that I thought I was a rock star running into the fucking Mike. Three hours of sleep going crazy. All right, guys. I mean, I think that's it. We've got Adrian, we've got Maddie Fitz, and we've got the gambling. And Colin, Colin. And Colin Mori-Cawa.

We throw that in the fucking in the title. Thumb now for sure. I mean, I feel like we should just keep this mic on just in case anyone else walks around here. But until then, maybe if we get anyone, you'll hear about it. But if not, here are the interviews. Thank you for listening. It's the players. Thanks to everyone with the merchandise.

I love you all. Do we say hit it hard now or hit it hard? We are joined by the reigning U.S. Open champion. You're probably, that's like your first name now, raining U.S. Open champion. Yeah, I like that. You only get it for like a couple more months. I might put it on my birth certificate.

It'll just become reigning U.S. to open champion. Will champion. World champion. Well, if the Americans had their way, the U.S. Open would be the world championship. It's like the World Series. Yeah. Okay, we're with Matt Fitzpatrick,

friend of the program. probably been on more than most professional golfers. This is our first time catching up in a while. You've been a busy guy all over the world, major champion. You're only like three spots higher than you were when you won that major. And yet I feel like your world is a very different place right now than it was 12 months ago. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just, yeah, it's just very busy. Yeah, it's just very busy. Just a lot of things going on. just a little bit more demand on time you know sponsors kind of want their piece of the pie which is you know more than more than happy to do obviously yeah yeah absolutely um very lucky with that um but yeah it's just yeah it's just a lot going on and just like i said earlier i'm just trying to show up and play golf and go home yeah is it i mean are you almost looking forward to i don't know you obviously want to be the rain chamber forever but you just even say it well i was just going to say like

to having because you're not a guy who loves attention no i was i was would still, I'd still, I'd take the last nine months. So if I did it all again, yeah, no, it's not even a question. Yeah, that was probably a question. Yeah, not even a question. We're here at your rental house for the players championship. This is a tournament that you've had decent success, I would say, in the past. I remember you were in the final group a couple years ago. Yeah, on Saturday with Westwood. Don't think you had a great weekend, but you're a fan of the golf course? Yeah, I do like the golf course. I think it's a great golf course. I think it's difficult. tests all aspects of your game.

I'd like it to get firm and fast, ideally. I don't know if it is. I don't know how the weather's going to look, but yeah, I think it's a really good challenge. Your game is in an all right spot. It's not the start to the year that you had last year where you were kind of living in the top 10. You had a decent finish in Phoenix,

missed the cut at Riviera, missed the cut at Pebble. I think you finished 14th at Bay Hill. You're dealing with some sort of neck thing. I get a lot of messages being like, oh, Fitsy ruined his neck by, you know, chasing distance, blah, blah, blah. what's going on with the neck and do you think it has anything to do with your workout schedule?

It doesn't really matter how I answer that question because everyone probably still thinks it's going to be to do with that. I'm just not even going to, I'm not even going to waste some time answering that one. But yeah, it's fine. Like what is it? Is it like a strain? No, it's just like I'd just rather not go into it basically. It's just like a it's a slight issue basically in the disc. So, like, I just got to manage it from, like, pretty much every day.

Just kind of doing, like, pouring rehab kind of stuff for posture. And then, yeah, just trying to, you know, play golf on top of that as well. It's just like a balancing act, really. It's a secret injury. Yeah, secret injury. But, you know, hitting drivers and stuff is obviously, you know, the load is higher on my neck than just hitting wedges, chips and ports. it is purely just trying to, you know, manage the situation and kind of figure out how it's going to,

how it reacts daily. Literally, that's what it is. It's at every day kind of just, is it a little bit better? Yes. Is it a bit better? No. And then just going from there, really. So we were just talking about you, for your T-14 at Bay Hill, you made was over $300,000,

which is basically as much as you made when you used to win golf tournaments in Europe. So things have changed on the PJ Tour. Obviously, everyone's talking about designated. event model. You were one of the Delaware 20. You know, you had just won the U.S. That's what they're calling it.

The Delaware 20. You never heard that. You're really, you're really off media, aren't you? I'm off the grid. Yeah. Like,

are you off the grid? The Delaware 20th. That's what it's called, dude. Sounds like some kind of superhero cold. It is a, you guys reshaved an American institution in 24 hours. Delaware 20.

I like that. You should get that tatted on you. I like being part of that, yeah. But what I was getting at was, obviously the tour just announced the new, the new format for the designated events next year. They're going to be smaller fields, no cut.

So I guess just kind of zooming out, you are part of the Delaware 20, whether you like it or not. How involved were you in that meeting and how involved have you been since in sort of this? Zero. Just showed up. I just show up, listen, think about if I've got any good points. Normally someone else mentions my points and that's it. Yeah.

Like I've said it this year a lot. Like I just kind of want to turn up like golf and leave. you know, that's my voice, me giving my opinion on what I think or an idea, that's not going to get pushed through. So it's irrelevant really what I think. You know, the important people, in my opinion, is Tiger Woods, Rory McElroy, those boys that they, you know, they, I feel like they have it under control. And it's an honor to be part of the Delaware 20. Delaware 20. But no, it is, genuinely is, you know, to be part of that group, it has been pretty special, to be fair. I was going to say, have the guys welcomed you in a little bit?

Yeah, I think, you know, there's definitely probably a close-knit group, I think, than probably before. We're not going to dinner every night and stuff, but, like, I definitely think there's a little bit more friendliness around that, which is great. and um but i you know i'm just i don't know what's right for the tour it's not that's not my job yeah it's like you didn't go to school well you didn't really go to school at all but no you didn't go to i didn't go to i didn't go to i didn't go to school to become jane monahann you know i i i that's i didn't think that was my job like i thought it wasn't for the first years of your pro career and and like i say i'm delighted to be part of that and you know be able to give my opinion, but I don't really have much to say. So you mentioned Tiger Woods is a big part of this,

and he is, but I'm a little surprised because when Tiger, I'm surprised they went no cut. And we were talking about this earlier. When Tiger was at his Hall of Fame ceremony or induction, he did an interview and I remember they asked him, all the records that you've set, what's the record that you're most proud of? No hesitation, my cut streak, 142 cuts in a row. There are going to be weeks when you show up. You don't have it. You're on the wrong side of the draw. I was better than half my competitors. It just felt like, a part of the PGA tour that even symbolically was a differentiator from Liv. You know, Jay Monaghan said himself, pure competition, right?

We're about pure competition on the PGA tour. Do you see how at least, and I, you know, you probably don't know this because you're off the grid, but Lee Westwood and, you know, Polter, they were all talking shit last week about oh, you copied our model, you copied our model. Do you see how someone can see this and think they basically copied the homework? Yeah. I totally, yeah, I get that, yeah. We play four rounds, though, so that's, you know, didn't quite copy it.

I wouldn't get thrown out of college for that. But, no, I mean, I get that, yeah. Like I said to you, kind of before we started this, I would like to know what the fans would want to see, you know. I don't know how you would go about doing that if that's even possible, but that would be where I would. go you know what do fans want to see do they want to see the best playing with each other every week do they want to see us go and play i don't know old classic golf courses do they want us play with

wooden clubs i don't know what's what is what is going to all tell you make the fans tune in that surely is the most important thing so i'll tell you if you guys if they said we're going to do a tournament with hickories at pine valley fans would love that would you be young for that would would they though that's my yes they would i tell you but who but who's that you're a golf perv sicko I prefer sicko. Yeah. So you would, you're a golf sicko.

So you would, you would love that. And I don't know. Andy Johnson would love that. Yeah, but would, Steve, who lives in,

you know, I don't know, Delaware. Delaware 20. Would, would he want to watch that? Who just tunes in not that regularly,

like, he's going to be like, what the hell's a hiccary? Well, you're going to get different answers from different people. I know, I know you are,

but there's, you'd like to think there's kind of a, pretty much rough idea of what people would want. What that is? I've got no idea. Is, you know, team golf more important? Is no cuts important? It's 54 holes better.

Is 72 holes better? I don't know. Is the best players playing week in week out? I would say so. In my opinion, I would probably say you would want, in an ideal world, you would want the top 30 players in the world coming down the last nine holes of the golf tournament

every single week. But I will say it's been nice. So at Genesis, you had Nick Taylor making a run. Or not Genesis, in Phoenix. You had Nick Taylor making a run. Last week, Kurt won the tournament. So I do think there's, you know, it's good that they didn't keep it so small where there's still the opportunity for these guys. Don't disagree with that, yeah.

Where, like, you know, no one really knew who Kirk Cudiyama was two weeks ago. Now everybody knows who he is. And that is one of the big differences between this and the live model is like if you're playing well, you can get into these things. You can play, yeah. And that's always the answer is, you know, if you play well, you'll get. awarded. Yeah. No, it's,

I mean, it's, unless, you know, these designated events next year, if you don't get in those ones, you can play your way in, but also,

you're going to be playing for 10 million in the other events. Like, that's, that's the point I really didn't get. When, when they're talking about the rank and file guys. It's not really the end of the world. You know,

I had the season of my life last year, did really, really well for myself. There wasn't any elevated events last year. You just played the majors, the players, and that was it. So it's not like you can't play well. If that's what people are worried about. I don't know what people are worried about.

Is it the money? Is it the well, ranking points? What is it? When you say people, you mean other tour players? Well, I guess so, yeah, yeah. And even some fans, you know. What they're concerned about, and we were talking about this earlier, is that there's going to be basically two tours, you know,

the A tour and the B tour. And the guys who are on the A tour are going to be rewarded more and more. But like, when people say stars or, top players like that's just another word for best players yeah yeah and and i don't i don't have this why i don't have a problem with the limited fields is like if you're playing the best and you're the best of your job you deserve to be rewarded well yeah it's like you know it's like premier league and championship as simple as that yeah that's if you play shit yeah you get relegated yeah and if you're mad about this stuff you know like play better has been bastardized you know and been made

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Yeah, I thought it came out great. I'm incredibly grateful of how they did it and everything that they did. I've had a lot of positive feedback from a lot of people, which has been obviously amazing. You know, I think they did a great job. I couldn't really knock it. There's a couple of things,

obviously, that I kind of mentioned to them about. Do you listen to PG-Tor radio as you're driving to the golf course? I don't do that. No, I don't do that. I did see a couple people say that I think there might have been hosts on that, that show.

And they were like, oh, you'd listen to that. I was like, No, I don't. Knowing you, that is, you'd actually be more likely to be listening to Concerto No. 9 from Mozart than PGA Tour Radio. Yeah, probably, yeah.

Yeah, probably. But other than that, you know? No, I thought it was great, yeah. Yeah, it was great. So season two, you'll be all over it. You're a star now? Yeah, hopefully, I don't know. You're getting recognized more now from the Netflix effect?

Because I'll tell you, me personally, I've been getting recognized a little bit more. I don't know. I guess a little bit, but probably I'd hope it's more from US Open than Netflix. It's a very, very good point. But 275 million households, a lot of households. That's a lot of households. That's where they are.

There's one thing I wanted to ask you about because there's starting to be a little bit of chatter. There was a little bit of noise that Brooks Kepka might have cold feet or whatever. There is eventually going to be someone who wants to come back. These deals are not forever. I personally think after that, at the end of this year, there's going to be guys whose contracts are up and they want back into the PG tour ecosystem. How are you guys going to feel about that? I would not let them back. At all.

No. Lifetime ban. Yeah. You've made your choice. You've made your choice. In my opinion, you've made your choice to jump ship because you think there's a better product out there. So that's where you've gone. And I don't think you should be allowed back.

Yeah. Right. Like if someone leaves Coke to work for Pepsi, Coke isn't going to rehire them. My thing is, you know, you wanted to go play somewhere for more money, less events, for all the reasons that they give. So why should you be allowed to come back and take someone else's spot who's committed to the PJ tour? That would be my argument. With 50 million in your pocket. Exactly.

So no, mine, I would say no. Do you think that that is going to be? And I think certain people, if you ask DJ, DJ, would be like, yeah, I don't really care. Like, I'm happy as Larry. If you ask other players, they might be a little bit myth that I just said that. People are going to try to come back. I can think of one person that wouldn't be happy with people coming back and he's the guy that moves the needle. Mr. Woods.

Yeah. He also wouldn't be happy with the no-cut stuff though. I can't imagine he is. But still, I think he'd rather have no cuts and no live players than live players and cuts. Do you think, is that something you guys have talked about it all is like, because that is, again, that's the next like real drama, I think. Have you talked to guys about how they would feel about it? Have you heard anyone talk about it? Because it's kind of happened.

Honestly, no. It's the first you're hearing of it. I know. No, someone mentioned it last week about Brooks, but I didn't really buy into it. I'm like, wise, you know. It's just a chip-knuck story. It could be, you know. Who knows?

Looking forward to this year. I mean, this is like, it's funny because, you mean, we've had these designated events and it feels like there's been a lot of big golf already, but everything's still there. I mean, these are the players in the format. I mean, everything's still in front of you. Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's seen just getting started. You know, I think it is going to be interesting.

The one thing I would say is that's not disappointing, but it's not necessarily right, is that, you know, FedEx Cup points, you look at all these top players playing these designated events, less top players are playing these other events, but they're still worth the same points. So are they? Or maybe it's like 550 versus 500? Yeah, 500, but that's not enough.

You know, that's not enough difference. So all of a sudden, you've got top guys. taking points off each other. You know, if you had the top 30 playing in a designated and the guy who finishes 30th gets 30th points, but then the following week there's only 15, but he finishes 15th, then he's getting more points than the guy that finished 30th. So for me, that's a little bit. Where are you?

I assume you're not happy with where you are in the, where are you like in the 80s, no, listen, I'm 85th or something, but I've not, you know, I've played six events this year and one of those I didn't feel 100. percent so but i can always go and play more you know i could have played the honda it's my you know it's my choosing which events i play um i just think from from a points perspective and this has been talked about amongst certain players and um it you know it's kind of in your face that literally the best players are playing against each other they're taking points off each other now so we we just had a call with the pGA tour with um

Tyler Dennis and Andy Pazer and they were saying they're going to unveil these points. There needs to be more points for the designated events. I just feel like the other players are going to fight back on that because they're going to say, they're going to say it's harder and harder for us to crack into the top 50. And it feels like, and from my perspective, and you might feel differently, there's going to be a growing divide between, you know, for a lot of times, life was pretty good for the rank and file PJ tour player. Now there's a little bit more, it's like a little bit more almost.

capitalistic or meritocratic of like doggy dogs. Yeah. I think it is but again it goes back to my point. You know what what you're worried about you the world you're going to be able to play your way into these the big events so if you play well you can play the big events you basically playing against less competition because the top players are playing these less of these less events you're playing for the same money that you were

um you know it's it's a difficult one it is you're not going to you're not going to make everyone you can't please everyone that's just the way it is i think the long and short of it is if you play well and compete and beat the best players then you'll be you'll be rewarded that's as simple it's as simple as that like you know it's not a game of you know everyone gets a participation medal it's it's who's the best player it's who the best player gets the best reward yeah is that it's a rider cup here yes do you think having a fellow northwestern wildcat as the captain means that you will finally be allowed to play four balls as they yeah have i made that jones no i've been asked that like three times already this year uh i've told luke not to not to pick me for four balls i just said don't even bother so hopefully it's like reverse psychology so we might but no no i i think i have a good chance has the team i've got to make the team first though has the team building started a little bit you guys have a little bit we've had a couple dinners like at the end of last year and stuff.

And I'm sure we'll have some, as the year goes on. But, you know, so far I think Luke's doing a good job. We've spent a lot of time talking about, I mean, we just did a video, the best day of your life, or one of the best days of your life, when in the U.S. Open. I remember watching you, you know,

after you fatted that ball into the water against Daniel Berger, was that the lowest moment you found on the golf course? No, no, no. That was, you know, that was terrible, but literally two weeks later, I went on one balderama, so I was like, it was kind of, you seem to forget about,

about it but I can't think I mean I've been very very lucky with my career that it's had a steady incline I would say that I wouldn't say that I've had too many big drop-offs but I would like to get a point for Europe that's for sure about half a point no I would like one full point half would be progress half would be a progress that's how it would probably be the definition but but like you know those weeks are so special but when you look back at that one is it a sour taste because of how lopsided it was because they were drinking beers in the fair way or is it still a moment you look back with pride i look at it and we lost that's that's it's it it doesn't matter how they act or how i i can't even remember the score we lost that's simple as it

that's a lot of not as money yeah that's all it was in my mind we lost i didn't get a point so that's it with with the way that the schedule is going to change right so you guys are going to be done i think in august so are you going to go back to europe and play in the fall what's going to happen i don't know it depends how the schedule looks um it really does um you know europe schedule's kind of odd it's obviously released already but it's normally released late so i'll just kind of look at the events that are coming um the three that i've kind that i've got two that i'm kind of looking at tp world and um in dubai at the end of the year and then went with as well um but that's about it one thing i did want to ask you about the

European tours. There's, there's been a lot of chatter. Um, and the live guys were hammering this about the strategic alliance and how it seems like it's not really very mutually beneficial. It seems like, you know, all the powers in the PJ tour. You're a kid who, you know, you cut your teeth on the European tour. That's where you got your start. But it was always kind of the plan to come over here. Is there any sadness in what's playing out or is it just sort of a natural progression? Yeah, no, I'll be honest. Like there is a definite sadness. Um, I don't think the strategic alliance is being that useful. What's strategic for that?

Yeah, I don't feel like there's been, I don't feel like there's been enough help given to Europe. Whether it's money, whether it starts with the players, it's definitely we can come a feeder tour, as that's what everyone said. It's the 10 best guys that don't have a card in Europe this year will come to playing in America. That is, you know, that's disappointing. No offense to events in Dallas or events in Memphis.

I don't know. Just random places in the U.S. that you're playing a generic golf course, that's not a patch I'm playing a golf course in Rome, or that's not a patch I'm playing a golf course in Switzerland. Yeah, it's like nowhere near as good. Okay. Going to Dallas or going to Rome, you know, I live in Palm Beach. Going to Rome compared to Palm Beach is very, very different.

And I just think that there's so much more opportunity in Europe to be had by the PJ tour to use the strategic alliance, to build better tournaments, to have better fields, to bring more people into golf. How sick would it be if it was like F1? I know there's a lot of comparisons where it's like you've got. Yeah, that's just that's another story. But I'm saying where if it's like Rome and London. Yeah, careful where you're going with this because that sounds very similar to another tour. No, they're not really playing in that cool places. No, they're not playing in Europe that much.

They're playing Tucson and Oklahoma. No, but I definitely think there's an opportunity that's been missed. Why don't make BMW, why don't make Wentworth a designated event? Why not make the Italian Open? Totally. Yeah, I don't understand that. I think there's an opportunity that's been missed there. And hopefully down the line it can be used.

But, you know, playing January to, particularly for European guys, I don't think it does not matter in the slightest for the US guys. But European guys that play on the European tour that have a. commitment and like that they'll play January to August, 22 events or whatever it is, the seasonal end. And then it's like, well, God, I feel obligated to go and play in Europe now. There's two or three, four events there. Okay, I'll go play those.

And before you know it, you know, your off season is done in November. I mean, listen, I'm playing golf for a living. I'm not like, oh, wow, this is the worst thing ever. Yeah. But I just think the strategic alliance isn't what it's made out to be. And maybe I don't understand it enough. I just think it could be better. Have you up, was there any other, any guys in Europe who,

because you always had the ambition of playing here, and you text yourself against players. Were there guys who are just like, I'm good, stay in Europe? Yeah, I wouldn't know who. I wouldn't know who. I mean, I think guys don't necessarily like coming over here to the US. Don't necessarily want to live here. That's fair enough.

You know, you do what makes you happy. But I've always wanted to live here since I was a kid. Really? In the States. Yeah, yeah. I used to come on holiday with my parents and just love being in America. With college a little in the US. Well, yeah, that was kind of, yeah.

But yeah, I love being here in the States and love where I am in my life and love where I live and stuff like that and everything else off the course is great. So it's, you know, that's me personally, but other guys don't have that or don't necessarily want that. Well, you're happy. You're in a very good place. We're in a beautiful home that obviously was not cheap. So things are going very well.

You're playing a tournament where the purse is a gazillion. I think it's 25 this year. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Is it 25? I think so. What does the winner get? $10 billion. Is that right?

Yeah. One trillion dollars. Well, there's a lot of money to be made this week. There is a cut though. There is a code, yeah. So we're going to have to be better than half. We're going to have to make that. So that's the first order of business.

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In the world I can't believe that they're allowing us to do this I don't think they're allowing us to do this I don't think they're allowing it We just kind of wandered over here And I think at some point we might get ushered off It's the players week We're very excited we are joined by one of our favorite guests, Adrian Rittfeldt.

Nice. Did that correctly? Nailed it. Amazing. So Adrian, obviously, the Taylor Made guru, the fitter of all the golf clubs. You're the guy that makes the stuff happen behind the scenes. We love talking before these huge tournaments, these championships. I want to get a little bit, I want to get right into this.

We had Kurt Kittiam on the last show. We've heard that you worked with him with a fitting with a new driver and a three wood last week. What went into that? He put a whole new setup in and then ends up winning at Bay Hill. What went into that? How did you get to that point? Amazing, really. Yeah.

I mean, what a win for him. Those kind of things, you know, it's nice when a player like gets hold of you with his team a lot like earlier in the weeks. So really I had a long discussion with his coach the Wednesday before the. JC, yeah, yeah, Florida coach. Great guy, honestly. and he's um so he he basically asked me to send a couple of drivers over he feels that that at the time he was like listen mate curtie's playing unbelievable golf and if you look at his like records and he's like stats and stuff and you see how he's trending the guy's like really really hot at

the moment but if we looked at his driver and his three wood uh he was he was that the way we said it he was like seven out of ten so this we called like the guys playing well it's 10 out of 10 but The woods are only seven out of ten right now. Is there anything we can do? So I sent a couple of drivers to Vegas to his house. They tested on Friday. JC calls me Friday night. Our conversation.

Drivers didn't work, man. Our conversation about a driver. How is that possible? Well, the drivers that I sent, you know, that they didn't work. And he was basically going through, you know, you know, Kurt was pretty frustrated about this. So it was a pretty serious conversation. And I was like, well, listen, mate, I'm flying in. to Bay Hill, I land first thing Monday morning, I'll go to the course, I'm going to prepare

this time it's like, because sometimes what happens is, I mean, you know that I'll say, and there's sometimes too many cooks in the kitchen. And sometimes you can get like that when you've got so many people involved with the player at the highest level. So I was like, like, I'm doing this one. Like, let me just put together the options, you know, plan A, plan B, and then we'll take it from there. And I, you know, our message, Kurt, I said, look, I'm going to meet you first thing Monday morning, whether it takes me one day, two days, or all three of those days. Like, I'm yours this week to get this right for you.

And, yeah, we went straight to work. I built up a bunch of options that I had, like, what I thought would work for him in one hand. But what I also did is like, so I've been working with this stuff since like the middle of last year. So using like my experience on the tens and the, like the tendencies and the trends of the club, I kind of tried to just build up some things that he wouldn't have even tried. I wouldn't have hit before. What might that look like? Different lofts, different shafts?

Yeah, you're talking about like CG locations, right? So for him, for him, like you guys can move that around. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So you think of like a, it's a carbon head now, man. So the shell weight is so light. I mean, the shell weight's probably, you know, one, you could probably get some to like 160 grams. And then normal head weights is probably about 195 maybe. For him, it's a little bit shorter than standard.

you can get up to 200 grams. So you've got, you know, you could have nearly 40 grams of weight to play with. To play with. And like a gram is like a brick. So you got, you know what I mean? You got a lot. So, so like my thing for him was like the guys like 180 plus ball speed just on a smooth one, which is, you know, to put that into perspective, that's what Rory is.

You know, so he's his potential. So the cool thing about Kurt is that he has so much. in the tank that you can actually explore like stuff that gives him dispersion like like accuracy and he's not going to give up anything to the field when it comes to like like that out and out performance so yeah we went to work um i ended off switching him from the one model head the the normal stealth two core head into the plus head uh the reason i did that is the the plus head in is it it actually comes out the mold two degrees flatter than the other head. And I knew that with Kurtz, if you're doing like a static fitting,

he's like a short, stocky guy. So that was going to help with the strike, getting the strike up the face. And then I made the club just as forgiving as I could. You know, you'd get the weight back. So weight back would make the club more forgiving. Weight forward would make it spin lower. He needs forgiveness. So I did that.

And we just tested. And once we're done with the driver, you build a, I just said, okay, now I'm going to build a three wood to match the driver. Yeah, I was going to ask that. You want to have the feels match up. Well, this is the thing, right? So the options, the cool thing about it is right at the end of the session, he's got two options that are doing the same thing to my eye. So then it's up to him now, right? So now you're talking about what are you feeling? What are you seeing? Are you, and he goes, well, I prefer the feel of this option. Then that, that's the right option to go for, because it's

stuff that you can't really measure. Unbelievable, man, just to watch him play. And he has, he's one of these guys. He hits it really good, but he does have like a wild one in. Or, you know, we can relate to that. Yeah, and when you talk to him about the shots, he's like, yeah, I didn't kind of just missed it. And, you know, and that's the thing with Bay Hill.

That's very different to this place. Like, I think, I think Sawgrass is as difficult as Bay Hill. but I just feel like sawgrass is going to whereas Bay Hill is just hard for everybody you know the sawgrass is really going to separate the guys who are actually playing really well versus you know a guy who's struggling and the separation in the field I think is going to be quite high this week

because the guy who hits it long and straight and hits greens in the right portions of the greens which is why I love this place as well it's not only about hitting greens it's it's kind of augustalike where you've got to hit the right section I think this is my favorite week of the year What a week for you to be working with the guy so vigorously and like your guys are trying to figure this out. And then he goes out and wins.

Did you like talk to him after the wind? Be like, we got a row. Oh, yeah. On the plane. So we were, we were, I was obviously, I was on a flight from San Diego to Jacksonville and everything was going on. I was kind of watching him. That putty hit on the last. I watched that putt scanning my boarding pass to get onto the plane.

So it was, I was so into it. I mean, I've known me and Kurt go way back, you know. I mean, you've seen the list of all the tours that he's played on basically every tour known to man. So when, you know, I worked in Europe on the European tour for, you know, six, seven years. And I would, you know, that schedule was so vast. So I would always, so Kurt, you know, I would be with Kurt in China. I would be with him in Singapore. I would be with him in India.

You know, all these places. So we go. So it was a big deal for me to see him kind of break through like that. And man, he's 19 in the world now. But he was playing. There was all tailorman guys up there. It was him. It was Rory.

It was Scotty. Are you admitting to rooting for one tailorman guy over the others? Well, I thought it was Rory's all day long. You know, those last few holes are so tough. And Rory hit such a good putt on the last as well. You know, that's, you know, Rory's going to make that put nine out of ten times. But putt, you know, when you look at Kurt, he didn't, nobody gave him that tournament, man. That shot he hit on 17.

That's macho. I mean, there's not many people that can hit that shot, you know, because you need speed, you need height, you need that. And then he goes in and rolls the putt. So there's, there's, there's, and then, and then you look at 18. I mean, when I spoke to him, I went into him in the, in the clubhouse on, on Monday. And he was like, a little, a little, like, tired. And, yeah, like, I said to him, like, I was, like, for sure he was going to have, he was going to need to make, like, an eight-footer to win this tournament. Like, you know, I mean, you know, I mean, you.

Everybody shaking. Caddy, everybody. He was sipping water. I never seen that. The caddy was giving him water and he was sipping it as he was reading the pipe. Super nervous. Yeah. Like visibly nervous, like trying to swallow the puke that was coming up.

You mentioned Rory. There was a lot of talk about Rory hadn't switched to the new driver yet. You end up working with him, right? I'm assuming. Keith, Keith, my boss, the driver that he's playing now was he actually got, Rory got fitted into that driver. in January. Wow.

Yeah. But didn't want to put it in play. Well, he wasn't, you know, he was coming off a long stretch. You know, when I say coming off a long stretch, he was coming off a stretch of the best golf anyone's ever played ever. If you look at it statistically, you know, there's nobody that's played as good at golf. This is kind of, you're looking at Tiger's prime era when. Yeah, the strokes game numbers are like the run that ROM's on right now and the run that Rory's on right now.

Yeah, you look at it and you look at, especially if you go, if you went into, Calum Taran, sorry to interrupt you there. You pulled up everything in January and you looked at the last six months of Rory's golf. He was statistically playing the best golf he's ever played in his life. So when you come off a break, I think that when you come off off a break, you've had Christmas, you've had, you know, you've got to keep the variables the same and then kind of find your golf swing. Right. I mean, Rory won in Dubai with his B game and he'll tell you that as well, right? And, you know, we bumped.

I was there. I was, I was in Dubai with him. You know, he was, he was fine. He could have, you could have played any driver, really. Right. You know, but, but it's, I think, I think, I think Rory's matured so much over the, this latest stage of his career that, you know, there's, there's no timeline for him to do anything, you know. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, it's going to find

its way into players bags, just like it did Scotty Shefflers. I mean, look at you. You've got the number one and two player in the world, like by none at the time. You know, you throw a ROM in there as well, but I mean, you know, Scotty had to switch as well, but he's not switching for, unless it's full performance. And when did Scottie switch? When did Scottie switch? We ended Scottie switch, waste management. He won. Great. Great. Amazing. Let's move on from that. You know, so we're in a good place, and I think that's, there's, there's nothing more rewarding than, than that. Yeah. And I, I honestly have had a great time with the product, and I feel like it's something that you really can't, like it says what it says on the range and on the monitors and stuff.

But when you take it on the golf course, the playability of it, I'm getting such good feedback from on the golf course. And that that's what counts. It's amazing. We've all felt that. Like, Trent was saying that he loves it. I love my stuff. too. Like it's as I'm hitting the driver as good as I can right now. I mean, it goes all the way down. Like we're talking about the top of the top and then we're talking about the bottom of the bottom.

And like it's it's an amazing club. And this isn't like an ad. This isn't this isn't something that we're trying to just push for no reason. Like you hear these stories that you're telling. You're literally speaking about the guys winning the professional tournaments that we're all watching and they're making these changes to the new clubs that we are pushing and we do have advertising for, but it's working. That's the thing that's amazing. Like you worked with Kurt, you got his driver and his three wood working, and he won. You work with Scotty, he changes over and he won. So who'd you work with this week?

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And I gave him the hoodie and he goes, I'm going to wear this into the clubhouse every day this week. He's wearing this hoodie into the clubhouse. He loves it. He loves it. And he plays well around you. What was he trying to tweak? Well, we basically, he's got the gap in his bag.

is he played a three iron last week, and this week we're actually trying to find a club that goes like 1 to 235, but all through the air. So we tested a 7 wood and went too far. So the 7 wood was kind of like, it was kind of going 244, 240, 240, 245. So now we're testing a 9 wood, believe it or not. Oh, my God. A 9 wood. So, I mean, it's pretty wind and higher. It's pretty windy.

Are there any 9 wood? Well, DJ used to play. You played a nine word? Yeah. Wow. But it's, you should see this thing, man. This thing is like to the moon. So it's 23.

23. 23. I think we bent it down to 22 now. So 22 and it's like like 58 lie. But it's a, what a monster club. Well, look at the wind. So you see, so basically we'll decide between the three iron. Okay.

And the nine word. The three iron will cut into the wind. Yeah. Just depending on the weather conditions. Obviously, today is no good. today's win but you know you look at like where the the tour is going now you know you're going into like the match play and then Augusta Augusta like he's he will tell you right now that that three iron is useless at Augusta you got to hold those drinks yeah so so so you know trying

to you know so now we'll you know it's nice prep for that if if this week is you know a little windy and it doesn't doesn't go in the bag this week but you know it's nice nice to be prepared part of my forehead I just got to get sun on it I wear tats too much and this son. I get that crazy golfer line. He's got a wedding. He's got a wedding. I'm really trying to expose a forehand of the sun. Do you kind of feel like you're just on a roll? Like, everything's kind of rolling with Rory, Kurt, Nellie, Scottie, Scottie. Like, it's just, when you're on a roll, it's the last thing you want to do is talk about it, but we're going to, like, do you just kind of feel like everything's working

in the right way? I think we've got, I think we have the most balanced, stable of players that we've ever had at our company. And when I talk about balanced time, I'm talking about like your icons on the PGA tool, your icons on the LPGA, you know, who we feel really move the needle. And then as you go kind of down that, you know, our European tour is full of, our European tour staff players are full of people that are, you know, not even 20, you know, the average age is probably 23. Right. You know, which means we're looking for the next guys to fill, to fill that gap. And then you kind of go down there into the college systems and the development. And when you look at the whole pyramid, it's really a strategy of ours that we've worked on

really hard for a long time. So that's great to yell. Like, and like one of my, like we've had like Thorben Ollison one is one this year, Rory's one, Scottie's one, Kurt's one, you know, Brooke Henderson's one. But one of the best things that jumped out of me this year was like that first round of that first LPGA event and you had you had nelly brook and charlie hole which were like one two and three and that that's cool for us because it's like that don't just happen man those are those are world-class players and and and we have we haven't nellie was a huge signing mega she's i would say

probably the biggest i think she's number two in the world but she's probably the biggest star in women's golf right now have you worked with her and then you know because i i had the guys the were so amazed like kisner and homo when they played with her they were so amazed by her what's it been like Well, I was, I was, this was in the time that I was kind of, I was traveling to, uh, the, the race to Dubai finals in Dubai. And, um, yes, that was kind of a big testing period. Um, and our, uh, a guy, Ryan Ressa, who's, who's done an amazing job with Nellie. I mean, yeah, what a, what a, what a legend, man. And he's a, you know, super hardworking. And he was, um, I went with him for one visit to, to, to, to, to, to see Nelly. I like, I, I, like, I, I was,

I was just happy to be involved and just to see where she was, because where she was with the equipment, and if he needed any kind of brains to pick or I could help him anyway. And I'll tell you what, I came away from that day. I called my boss Keith. I called Eddie,

who's, you know, he's also, you know, one of our bosses. And I was like, this is, this has got to be, this has got to be the best golfer I've ever seen. Really? She was phenomenal.

Cheers. Whether it was around a chipping green, whether it was in a bunker, whether it was on a putting, on a putting green. I mean, it was, I was so impressed. So, so impressed. And I was like, you know, if, if Nelly takes 18 months to switch her, she had no tailor-made equipment. Right. You've got to remember that, right? She was a full bag titleist?

She was, yeah, I think she had, she had a ping rescue or something like that. But anyway, anyway, long story short, like my, my feedback was, as long as it takes to get her comfortable and in tailor-made stuff that performs better than hers, take that time. Like just sign her. Sign it up. Right. But that's how impressed I was.

Hand-a-paper. And I've seen it, man. I've seen 12, 13 years of the best of the best. Yep. In their own environments hitting balls and in precious situations hitting balls, she in one day was, was. And she was bubbly and personality-wise. And you just walk away from that and you go like, wow, what a player to hang your hat on.

And what was amazing, which is why I give Ryan rest all the so much credits is like, I mean, she was, we were literally working on the driver. And all the other clubs in her bag were so good already, so dialed, you know. And she was like pretty much ready to go. she was just obviously doing a little bit more ball testing. You know, the ball's so important. And obviously the ball fits in with all the clubs. So it was a lot of like a lot of revisits, revisits, revisits, revisits to find out exactly what was right for it.

And she's, you can see how she's playing now. I mean, she's playing great golf. She's super comfortable in the, she's super comfortable in the product. She's happy to be with us. And yeah, we're really happy to have it. Speaking of the ball, we've got to get into from the gallery, presented by Taylor Made. Our friends of Taylor Made golf, which is you, Adrian,

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would be like, no, it doesn't matter what ball you're using. And the other side would be like, yes, it does matter. But for like, my argument was a 30 handicapper goes out there. Is the ball, even at that level, affecting their game to the point where they would see an improvement? Or do you have to get to a certain level of like ball striking, hitting the driver, where you're actually advancing the ball. I mean, I think, I think ball fitting is, is got to be.

And for amateurs, this is what I would say for, for your recreational golfer. in the rules of golf, professionals have to use the same ball the whole round. In the amateur game, they don't. And that, for me, scares the hell on me. Because now you've got somebody who's got a bag full of 10 different golfers. I mean, could you imagine that? Imagine. Right, it opens the door for them, just be like, I'll use the law.

Yeah, I'll just use that. But you'd be, the amount of precision and testing that goes into a golf ball to make it perform a certain way for a player is huge. So when you look at like and you're going like extreme there, you're talking about a 30 handicapper. Like a 30 handicapper can 100% identify his weaknesses. And that's the thing with the golf ball, right? Is it supposed to help your weaknesses? If you're somebody who struggles to spin the golf ball, I don't know, you know, you need a golf ball that helps you spin it. Right.

You know, so you're identifying a weakness and then you're... Are you saying I struggle to spin it? No, I'm just saying. You were following the butterfly. flies. Yeah, I was watching a little, there's a screen over there. I'm very like, yeah, that makes sense. That totally makes sense. Well, I was saying also, this was actually a question that you could probably answer. Let's say you're a horrific golfer and you go out to end and you spin the ball off the planet and it goes all the way over there. Would a, would a better golf will

actually hurt you more because it's, the technology is so good that it's actually spinning more or no? No, so you could, you could get, what you'd probably get is a more of a harder golf ball that spins less. Because the more spin that's on the golf ball, the more it's moving. Because that's basically what's happening. There's a force on the ball and the spin is making it move off line. It's like if you hit a wedge, right, and a wedge rises, why is it rising so much? Because it's spinning so much. So if you're hitting it left or right, it's going to be moving either way.

So like, you know, and if you're doing that, you're probably not hitting the ball very far. So I probably use a distance golf ball as well. Right. So a hard ball that has distance in it. You know, you don't need to spin. The ball matters. It matters. It definitely does.

Absolutely. Well, you were saying when you got fitted at the kingdom that the ball was the biggest thing that you guys talked about. Yeah. I was always using a TP5X and they switched into the TP5 because it was night and day. Yeah. Like, spin rate, all of that stuff was so different between the 5x and the 5. And now I'm TP5 and I'm just like, I never in a million years would have thought that that made a difference. Because for me, I don't feel a difference.

It's like, I can't hit the ball and be like that was softer or whatever. I mean, come on. Like, I'm barely trying, I'm barely getting the ball on the club base. Like, I'm an amateur golfer. But when you see the numbers on the trackman and the full swing, you're like, wow. Yeah. And if you start to, like, accumulates and you take like an average of like 20 shots, 30 shots, 40 shots. Now all of a sudden you're seeing like your good shots being better and your worst shots being worse with the other one.

Dude, even the angle where the ball would hit the green. What's that called? The descent. The descent angle, yeah. Was like, they were like, it's coming way too high because it's spinning up in the air. Yeah. It's going to spin back on. to hit grounds.

Yeah. So like, say like 45 degrees. So let's say so as as the ball kind of lands more flatter, so let's say then it goes 44, 43, 42, they reckon the difference in the rollout of the ball is minimal, like hardly anything. But as you get to like 38, 37, 36, it's like a tipping point. And then all of a sudden it's triples. Wow. So you could, so let's say you got like five yards of run with your driving.

and your angle of descent was say 43 degrees and all of a sudden you had a golf ball that spun better and landed better and that went down to like 36 or you you'd probably hit it 20 yards that's crazy see that's very interesting you know angle of descent how many listeners even know what angle of descent is but that's a huge stat people people make like like an assumption like oh I hit it 20 yards further with this new driver it's a combination of the driver it's a combination of the driver the driver's a combination of the driver's but also, you know, the golf ball, the fitting, like where you've, you know, how you've kind of dialed yourself in. So to wrap it up here, what are you excited about going into the players? Is there anything that we should be looking for? Have you worked with anyone? I know it's Wednesday right now. So is there anything that? You were saying this is panic time Wednesday afternoon.

I can't believe we got you for this podcast. Yeah, yeah. We heard we couldn't do this podcast on the truck because it's too busy. Too many players running around. Things are changing. It's a factory. What, I mean, this for me is, is. Like, what I like is that it's not called the fifth major anymore.

It's the Players Championship, which is a standalone tournament. I love the field. I mean, you can see the reason it's the best tournament of the year for me is the facilities. I mean, have you been to the back of that range? No. They don't let us on the range this week. Oh, man, you have to go. If you can sneak there, if you can get there.

Oh, like where the pros practice? Well, it's the other side. It's the best practice facilities in the world, by none. They offered us to go over there when we played the scramble. Did they? We're just going to hit the regular range. Oh man, bro. It's the back side of the range is like mythical stuff.

So you can, so even like today, like, you see how windy it is? If you wanted to hit balls in an area that was like, had no wind, you could literally, there's, everything's at different angles. You can hit in every, into any wind direction or any slope. You can go off like down slopes, upslows, side hill. It's so good. When we play Billy Orshall, they're like, if you guys want to go hit that players range, you're free to, and we're like, no, we're just going to hit with, like, there was a team next to us. We had a, um, we, we did a set. on Monday there with Rory it was like pretty pretty quiet and he was she was

just hidden him a bunch of three woods and just kind of dialing in his launch conditions I it was it was so impressive man but even him had when we when we got to hitting driver he had to move like we were hitting he was like yeah we should just move back to like the fence and head just in case we hit it across the other side of the range it was it's pretty impressive yeah but it's like I say this you can feel the the the the the the the the attention amongst the players. This is one that they all won away. Oh yeah. You can you can you know the service that's provided to the players to their to their support to people like us is second to

know. They don't make you parked the truck across the road. Every single thing about this tournament is is literally designed around convenience and performance for the players. That's what I love it and you know you go and walk the course. Have you guys walked on the course yet? Not this week but we just played it like a month ago. So it was It's just such good. And the rough is so consistent and so like you can just see the ball. It's a pure test of ball. Yeah. And it tests every shot, right?

So I walked, what did, Sheffler's caddy, I said to him, do you like this week? And I said, I love it. And he was, and he luckily, he was holding like Sheffler's bag there and he pointed in the bag. And he says, we will use every single club in this bag. That's awesome. Yeah. And we will hit every single shot. that's amazing from you know you know in order to perform win this tournament do you have a kurt

for this week has there been anyone that you've been like specifically like that's been hounding you all week and you're like you're my guy i think you know it's i've been we're doing a little bit of time but actually when i think about it you know we did we did something something with sheplea collins Collins working hard in his game uh rory we did that that nice bit of work with on on monday keith Keith, my boss is, you know, he's buzzing about Rory, you know. Come on, I got the chills again. You always give me the chills and talk about Rory. Which is cool.

He's buzzing about Rory. Come on, yeah, and then you got like, like, you know, why not Kurt, right? Why not Kurt again? Can you imagine? Oh, wow. You went back to maybe top 10 in the world. Yeah. And then, yeah, you got Lucas Herbert, who's, you know, we did, he's,

Lucas Herbert's probably got, in my opinion, probably one of the most underrated short games in the world. it's like coming from Australia always playing on like hard pan kind of turf he's got no bounce on his wedges zero bounce and you just watch him or in a bunker and he's the best he's probably the best putter on the PJ at all or maybe Taylor Montgomery another Taylor big guy

you know so I think and when you look at the history of the winners of this it's a tough one man yeah it's like the masters you're like you're like 20 guys it's gonna be one of those 20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, where's... Right. This place is very augusta-e.

Like, you could... Just the way that they do everything, the manicuring of, like, the walk-in, there's, like, music playing behind the flowers, and you're like, they're trying to do something here, and they're... It's working. It's working. It's working. I know we got to get you back.

You're a busy man on a Wednesday, so I appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. It's so cool to see how involved you guys really are in producing not only the golf that we watch, but, like, the way. Like that's the difference when all these guys every guy can hit every club every company. I'm sure. But like you're the difference. Like that's why Taylor made's better than the other ones because of you. That's fucking crazy.

I love these and these like the way the tour is kind of moving and that with the elevated events and you know these strong strong strong fields that just adds to the you know the excitement of the Sundays. There's a certain tension. Yeah. You want to what you want to win and you got you got good horses man. Not to pump you up too much, but we talked to someone at Taylorman. I can't remember who it was when we went and did their tour again last month.

And they were like, all these guys, there's a lot of guys that have the option to go to any company they want. And like, Adrian is the guy that they're like, that's why I'm going. That's got to feel real cool, man. You know who said that was Trevor Hillman. Trevor Hillman came out to me and goes, I was like, why did you like, why are you playing Taylorman? he goes Adrian. He's like, you kidding me? He's like, the people there.

The people there are the reason why. Yeah. He goes, we could hit any club. It's the people behind the clubs that make the biggest difference. It's like it's the pit crew in NASCAR. All those cars go the same speed and all the same. It's who knows how to put the fuel on the right time and all that shit. It's like you hear Callow, your title is you're tailor made and you think about the golf clubs.

But it's really at this level, it's people. Right. Yeah. That's cool, man. Finding good people is so important. You're cool. Keeping hold of them. Thank you.

I love you guys. You're my new best face. Can we do dinner? You're the best, dude. We do it, dinner. Yes, we should. He's Doc Redmond. He's sporting a nice little mustache.

He's stylish. He is stylish. He's a flat brim. Adrian, you're the best. Yeah, you're the best man. Thanks so much, guys. Thanks again. That's a lot.

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We have no guidance for this. I've never done a gambling thing in my life. All the other gambling things I've seen on Barcelona are horrifically bad. I don't even know what's going on. It's a blonde person and a fat guy just giggling with each other. So this is, I think, maybe it's going to be different. Maybe not. It's a golf podcast.

I'm here. Riggs is here from, of course, four play and those other wonderful things. I've got a couple proposed names. I got a couple proposed names. And we've got a bunch of them. So go ahead. Yeah. I'm willing to have the conversation.

I didn't see any of the ones that anybody else proposed. But I came up with a couple that I, thought I could float. If we hate them, we won't go with them. If we like them, we can obviously pick one. I thought kind of based on your history of being humble in the way that you name all the shows that I've seen you appear on, I was thinking that one of the options would be K-M-S-G-G-G-G-S-F-B-F-A-W,

which is obviously Kirkmanahan show, Golf Gambling Show, From Barstool, featuring another person as well. That's not bad. There's something too bad. I could see. That's got a good hashtag. tag. That's not the worst thing I ever heard. There's worse names of bar store, so I will say that. Sleep on it. And the other one that I was coming up with was I was thinking kind of our,

two of us have sort of a lusus, parapholical situation on the top of our heads. And there might be a little entendre with the theme of the show. So I was thinking two thin lines. It could be a good I was staring. It was a tough day for you. I obviously after the mini golf collapse, but I was staring at your hair at that dinner. Like the Brandon Walker, your hair is, what's going where where are we at with that what was going on at the time it was it was long so i mean it's not like i have a great hairline obviously but at time it was long it was when you when you have such a problem like a long and you're trying to figure yeah it was it was it was it was a problem i was thinking during the dinner it'd be like a dark enough room nobody really noticed and obviously

you didn't say anything in the moment and you wait it could be we could be 50 000 feet underneath a cave and it wouldn't have been i would have seen it it's it's unbelievable so we still have no name. Sounds like we still have no name for our show. We search still for a name. Well, those are okay. We'll see. I guess people can, whatever, you know, tweeted rigs or something.

I don't know. Names to me are not, what are you for names? You're going to make golf picks and talk a little bit about golf. You talk about golf for a living, so I know you don't want to, you know, you do enough of that, but we'll do a little bit here and then we'll make some picks. Everyone told me, whether it's Hank, Gazz, Portnoy himself. Keep this show quick because they say golf gambling bets have no shelf life, which is, I guess,

true, like who six months from now is to go back and say, gee, Remember Valero, Texas Open Week when Kirk and Riggs? Maybe the content will be so good that people years from that will want to be part of it. I don't know. Who knows? So let's go quick. We're going to do our best. A couple of guys that are known for being very succinct.

We're going to go quick. We're going to get through this puppy fast. This is live. We're putting this as a live show on the Barstville gambling. Nobody like you said really gave us any direction. They're like, they sort of like, oh, you guys want to do a golf gambling show? And they're like, all right, when would you guys like it to air? What do you think is the bet?

We're like, well, no, that's, aren't there dozens of? people that are paid to know when it's going to benefit the most. As usual, you're screwing this up. What happened first was, they went to me and they were like, hey, like you've struck, you know, I've had some good, as you know, some good records from golf picks.

I'm the number one golf handicapper in America. It's what it is, North America. That's what it is. And they said, oh, why don't you start doing this? They got like, you know how it is with these guys. They got four tweets from MNafans. They're like, oh, we better do something here. So I said to them, well, gee, you know,

Riggs is my friend. I'm not sure. So they said, so I reached out to you. You're like, oh, you know, I don't know why we do it together. I said, great. I then told my producer that. And their response to that was, okay, sure. And we haven't heard from them since gas can be different. For only though, gas could have drowned in somewhere in Florida with, you know, with a crew of 22-year-old IG models or something. So I have no, I have no idea. So it's you and I on our own. Okay. I think that's better. I think that's best. Then obviously, if anything goes south, we got colonn A and that can straighten out the ship. So we should be in.

Remo shape. Yeah, we're great. So this week is the Players Championship, the fifth major. I would rather win the Players Championship in the PGA myself. So, you know, I'm looking forward. We're away from that horrific dog track of Bay Hill last week, which I hated. I hate that tournament. I like the field.

I like the Honda better than Bay Hill, but who cares? We're done with that. So we go on to the players now. Why? Why do you like Honda? It's a better TV golf course. I just like it better. I wish that field.

You big bear trap guy. you love the huge bear on yeah yeah it's a good dramatic course it's tough bay hill stinks the green stink the course has no personality i was texting about this weekend it's awful the field's great if you switch the fields no one even well i understand arnold palmer i get all that wonderful fantastic but i watch it but that tournament does nothing for me that's why i said we'll start this week i'm not starting with bay hill okay look i get it before they made it designated people were bayon as soon as arnie passed away they were gone so probably a lot of sentiment behind what you were saying so i get it i think so look at the designated shit too enough just enough

yeah i mean it's yeah we talk about a lot on four play we're not here to talk about that so let's get to the picks baby we got players championship like i said to you this is the first week of the year that i pretty much go wall to wall uh watching golf i can't get enough of it i rewatched alive from stuff i just want to hear what those guys are saying uh my god my job's actually to kind of play golf for the most part uh and then film it and then put it on in short pieces that that people consume in short video content. But I watched. I watched the TPC thing with,

with Billy Horshle and a homeless guy, the fat guy used to be on your show. You brought him along too. I saw that. It was very good. Very good show. I enjoyed that. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm glad you liked it. I'm glad you liked it. So anyways, we're here to talk about the players championship. I get fired up for this week like you. It is, uh,

it's really the only thing that's close to the masters in that it has the prestige and it has the same course every year. Correct. So I think that people that tune in, you get very. intimate, you have a very intimate kind of relationship with the, with the closing stretch with the last six or seven holes. Obviously, 17 gets all the highlights, but you sort of understand when group after group comes in. If somebody's even in there, if they're in third or fourth to last group,

you watch them play those holes, you know those holes and you understand exactly what the other guys coming through were going to be playing because you've watched it so many times. So it's really the only course or the only tournament outside the match, like I said, that has that US Open all those. maybe you remember from seven or eight years ago if they went to shinnock or whatever but for the most part this is very very few this is one of very few weeks i feel like where even the average sports fan just kind of knows what to expect in the last hour or two of coverage um which is fantastic so having said that this is a course as we all know where anybody can win right when we get web simpson we get roy mackroy we get people that can bomb it people that just wedge it around the place uh from what i've heard thus

far sounds like they could kind of do whatever they want with the course they could make it really firm they could make it soft so that it plays longer thus far which would play into the first thing that i said where really nobody's game in particular style player whatever has a huge advantage uh and then there's never been a defending champion uh or back-to-back champion i believe in something that will continue this year right that should be safe i was looking for camsmith that's made the cut i wasn't available on barcel sports book so that's going to hold this year So let's get to some picks. You've been red hot.

I are for the cut thing, I will say has done extremely well. But what people do need to understand is that there's what that wasn't meant to be serious. And then all of a sudden it started hitting and now it's pretty serious. I think Frankie picked Adam Scott one week because he had a new social media manager. Next to you know, we were up like 25 units or something. So it started to get a little bit more serious. I'm seven and oh in that. I picked the guy to make a cut every week.

And he's made it. And yeah, I've obviously picked some, some favorites, but I picked Doug, Doug Gim one week. Easy for me to say Doug Gim one week, who he had a lot of good history at Rivieri, almost won the U.S.

Amateur there. He had missed like four cuts in a row or something. And then I had the top five, Adam Scott, or Jason Day, which you gave me. And then I had the top five Shane Lowry at the Honda, where I got fucked with this dead heat rule thing that you and I didn't even know

exists. I didn't even know about us. Tell him, explain this. to me. Well, it speaks to kind of why we're the go-to guys for a new gambling show. Well, I'm just, we're learning with everyone else. This is a process.

Welcome to Massachusetts, by the way. Welcome to Massachusetts. Correct. So we T5, right? If you fucking T5, then not only do you not get paid out in full, but they just divide it by however many people finished T5. So essentially the same as

as the pale for the player. No, because well, those guys get their pay slice. You know what I'm saying? They get their pay sliced, but I think you get it sliced. So if you want, so if you want, if you thought you were going to win $40 because you finished fifth, what would you have won? If, well, you, what happened to me is I believe. So for me, it was about, I think he was like four to one.

So that works out well. So I ended up, uh, breaking even. Okay. Oh, really? And it's right. Instead of winning a little bit because my point in what you just said is that they add up, you know, fifth through ninth or whatever it would be and then divide them evenly. So they still are more profitable than I would have been because they just divide this directly

by five, which is bullshit because a lot of times it feels like you don't really see a solo fifth or a solo fourth. It's always people jumbled at that part of the leaderboard. So that's steering me away from top fives going into this whole thing. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. I'm now emotionally out on top fives.

Okay. Okay. Well, I know I like that going forward. By the way, there are any odds in the Barstool sports book on who has the most punchable face of the company. Dan Rapaport would completely, I mean, those IG videos where he's got that look on this face. You just want to smack them around, true or false. That's in right now. That's also posting videos because who is it Jack Mack that does those at Barstall? Another, another guy. You just want to, you don't want to be near this human being. That's it. That's it.

That guy's got like the biggest growth in TikTok and social media over the last few years. Are you and I going to start doing this for this for this series? If it's going to get the views that these fucking things get, I will do it. We're here. We're company man. I got. I bought this shirt. We're company guys. We're doing, you know, so, so I'm in. So that's pretty much if we can get a punchable face in front of like a news story talking about news stories.

Right. People fucking love that on TikTok. So that's what we're trying to get to. Yeah, the kid does it too, the Castellani kid. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of those. The kid who was away for, in rehab for an hour to half. Yeah, the guy that call it has zero.

And I mean zero. Yeah. All right. So you want to go first? I have three picks I feel good about. So I'll tell you this right now. I have a top 30. I have a top 10 and I have a winner.

Now, I will say I'm not here to, you know, picking a winner in a golf tournament is not like picking a winner in a football game. But I'm just telling you, I have a top 30. I have a top 10 and I have a winner. So if you want to go first or I can go first either way, that that's whatever you want. Okay. I have a top 20 that is my, is my biggest pick, my most confident pick. I have a top 10 that's a little bit more of a stretch, but I still. still feel pretty good about.

And then I'm debating a, uh, a top nationality finish as well. Oh, I like that. Okay. All right. Okay.

I'll lead off. I'm going to go, uh, I'm going to go to Erl Hatton to finish top 20. Uh, what's the, uh, that's plus 150.

So obviously it's not a massive stretch, but that's still a pretty good return. If you get a basketball game or hockey and whatever, you see plus 150. Uh, and that hits. That's, obviously a hell of a hit.

There's a couple of reasons that I'm going with it. His last four starts, he's finished in the top 13, three out of four. He had a T4, T40, T6, and a T-13 last year at the Players' Championship. He tied four-th-th-thirty-th. So obviously, I'm more of a subscriber of if they're just playing well coming in. Play well last week, yeah. And if they've played well at the course historically, but it doesn't hurt. And then the last reason is that he's riveting to watch.

And obviously, if you're going to pick a player that you're going to want to be invested in, anytime you tune into Tirol Hatton, you could see anything. I mean, last week, people were trying to win the golf tournament on the 18th hole, and he's just standing. I thought he was going to break his putter over the rocks, which is in the background of, like, Scotty Shephyr, I think he was trying to finish out and get into a playoff. So he's riveting to watch. Anytime you tune into this guy, he's great.

Most people out there are incredibly boring. So I've got Tirol Hatton top 20, which is plus 150. I logged on to PGA Tour 2K23, and I got hit with a ridiculous notification that our players merch, our hats, our polos, are in the game. Is that true? That's true. Our hats are in the game, so you got to go and play it. It's crazy that every time I don't even get emails about this anymore.

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which is plus 250. A guy who played well last week is quietly 32nd in the world. Ryan Fox, who I think is going to have a, I think he's going to win a big tournament at some point this year. It's not this week. I don't think. He won Dunhill, I think last year, is playing really well. Like I said, a good final round last week. Not a lot of history of the players.

But I only got matters that much of top 30. He absolutely bombs it. I think he's going to be top 30 this week. And honestly, it's probably the pick. It's not the sexiest pick. It's probably the pick I like best. Ryan Fox plus 250 top 30. You got to think one of those guys.

if he makes the cut, you know, you're looking, it just, it feels like you're, you're in a pretty good spot. So I, you know, he can get off to, um, a decent start. I was surprised with guys like that. I was looking at the, to make the cut odds. Yeah. Um, because there's plenty of guys like Adam Scott's a good one this year who has had his Thursday, Friday rounds have been great. And then his Saturday, Sunday rounds have sucked. But even somebody like him, he was like minus 160 or something to make the cut, which I didn't like. No. Which I didn't like, okay, I like Ryan Fox. That's again, a name that I bet you're getting a little. little extra juice there too because he's not a big name.

I got. Yeah, I get hurt by the Hatton thing because he's probably a pretty popular pick. I saw Hatton's up there in the FedEx Cup this year too. So he's been playing well in general. But, um, but I like that. Okay. Okay. My next pick, I'm going to go Keegan Bradley top 10 at plus 400.

So he's four to one. Uh, he's third in the FedEx Cup this year. So he's been playing well. He obviously had a win, uh, this wrap around season. And then last year, uh, uh, at the player's championship. He finished fifth. He finished solo fifth at the player.

So he's got good history. Clearly, I went with kind of the same blueprint for Trial Hatton. He's a fidgety guy. So again, if you're, if you're getting nervous about your pick, you're going to be kind of rioting with him

and how fidgety he's going to be. He's going to be backing off the shots. We're just going to drive you nuts. And that's what you want. I think if you're trying to sweat out a four to one wind down the stretch, Saturday, Sunday at sawgrass, water all over the fucking place.

I think somebody that's fidgety is going to make things really interesting. Like I said, if you're gambling and you're just trying to look for a smooth, simple, boring win, kind of missing the whole point as two expert long-term gambling guys here can tell you. So I'm going with Keegan Bradley top 10 plus 400. It's interesting about that is he's plus 450 to win. I know that because I am picking him to win the tournament in my pick. Keegan Bradley. Again, I don't, I like your pick.

But the thing about Keegan last year, too, if you remember, last year was that the tournament had that crazy weather on Saturday last year. JT. Everybody sitting in the water? Yeah, he had that wild round J.T. So the tournament finished on Monday, late on Monday.

Kegan was in the mix and put it in the water on 18. He was right there. I mean, had a real chance to win. That was that round where J.T. hit a five wood from like one ninety three and then also hit a pitching wedge from like 199 in the same round, I think.

Crazy. Yeah. I would have liked to have seen some of that footage in that Netflix series, but I guess they weren't at Sawgrass. But yeah, go ahead. So Kegan is not, he's plus 4,500 to clarify for you,

which is... Oh, I beg it apart. What I say? You said plus 450, but I knew... Oh, 4,500. I apologize. Yes. Yes. And again, any any, uh, any, any, uh, gambling expert wouldn't know that that's what you meant. So, uh, Keegan Bradley plus 4,500 to win. I like that we're both on him this week. I like that a lot. Well, you know, quietly, 20th in the world. I think he's going to be on the Ryder Cup team. I think he's going to, you know, he's playing honestly the best he's ever played. Like, I know he won a major and all that stuff. But right now he's playing the best conseason. Great shape. Best consistent stretch ever. His record of the players is awesome. And he's playing great.

right now played well last week, finished second earlier this year at Torrey Pines. You know, like is basically playing, other than the, the guys, you know, those three or four guys that we know

I'm not going to touch here this week. He's playing as good as anybody else. So I mean, to me, it's, you know, he does make me nervous in big spots. He is fidgety.

But for those numbers, 4,500, Kegan, to me is a good pick. Top 10 is a really good. Does it make you feel better or worse that we're both on Kegan? It makes me worse.

that you're picking them. Yeah. I think if you at the 11th of that mini golf tournament, you have a loser sort of stench to you still. You're not getting over that emotionally. For the record, first competitive mini golf tournament ever. So if you go look just historically,

even in a lot of great champions, Tom Watson, a lot of great players that end up with stellar careers. Early on in major championships where they had big chances. You learn a lot. And so I feel good about that. I would have liked to gotten over the hump,

but you learn more from the losses than you do from the wins. One final, it was a barso mini golf tournament if people don't know. Did Hannah Cook break 100 that round? I don't remember. At one point, I will say she picked up,

which I don't think so she's out. What didn't appear to be captured by the cameras as well as I would have liked it to have been captured. But I will say to her credit, she was in the four play group minus myself with, you know, screen video, Dan and then Trent and Frankie. And she was the only one that made the cut out of that whole group.

So you got to give her credit there, but she kind of melted that. We call them red light rigs. Red light rigs we call it. On the back nine there. So good. Final, final pick. Or maybe not your final pick,

but I have one more. Go ahead. I've got, again, this is, it's just more of a fun one that I'm going to go. Top Asian this week. Oh,

can I take a guess? Tom Kim. Tom Kim. I like him this week too, yeah. Yeah, top Asian, Tom Kim,

plus 300. He is the second favorite in the Asian group. Sung J. M is plus 275. C. Wu Kim, was obviously one here is plus 350. Hedeky's plus 450.

I kind of thought that, but he just hasn't been playing that well. And then Tom Kim, I just, for the fact, he's not a long hitter. And like we said, this is a course that can allow shorter hitters to prevail. He's been big under pressure. Obviously, the President's Cup. Young guy plays a lot of golf. He's obsessed with golf. It's all he does.

He said after the President's Cup this year was the first party he's ever been to, ever in his whole life, like any type of party. No birthday party is nothing. So all he does is play golf. He rises to the occasion. So top Asian plus 300, Tom Kim. Okay. My pick is not as exciting.

This is kind of my boring one. Top 10. Let me make sure this is right. Plus 275, Victor Hovland. So, you know, played okay. You have a look like you look like you're surprised with this pick, no? I just, I can't get the, uh, my pick him the win.

I don't trust to get to win, but he hits the ball so well. To me, that's a ball striker's course. He's second, by the way, this year all around on PG. Gator's. His iron numbers are unbelievable. He can't, he chips like, he literally chips like a eight handicapped. He's gotten better. And he's got better. So I don't trust him.

I don't trust him to win here. But he play well, you know, for most of the time last week. I kind of a, kind of a lousy finish. But top 10, Victor Hovon at two, I say 275, is that right? At 275, you know, feels like pretty good value. I would say of the three picks, it's the one I would probably rank, well, picking Kegan, the win is sort of a long shot. but I would say this is probably second.

I would say Fox would be first. But I mean, I just feel like he hits the ball so well. I feel like he's always in the mix. And he has a pretty good record here. Play well. I think he finished ninth last year. So I like a Havel plus 275. I'm always amazed at how well his,

how good his ball striking is because it looks like he's taking a little bit of an unbacked lash at it. And it just feels like that would go more sideways than it does. But his ball striking is going to, I feel like, prevail a lot of the time. But I just can't get the taste out of my mouth. like watching him pretty frequently it feels like late in tournaments. Oh, well,

that's why I'm picking the win. So, um, so yeah, I like top 10. Uh, did you see any of these prop bets? Have you,

have you, have you been, uh, interested in any of the tournament props? There's a couple that's, I did see. These kind of scare me. I'm going to have to dive into these as we go forward here for the next 10,

15 years in this podcast. I don't, I'm not there yet. Go ahead. Right. Yeah. We'll get a little more comfortable. Give me,

give me one or two. Uh, I'll give you. Um, winning margin. So winning margin. 2. Two strokes is plus 350. Playoff is plus 400.

And what's what is there one? You say three or more strokes or no? Three or more. It's on here. I didn't write it down. Plus 550. Yeah. If you had to pick one,

I'm not, I'm not picking one here. It's been, is there not a lot of playoffs this year? Obviously, I have one a couple weeks ago. I feel like we've seen a lot of playoffs. Feels like we used to see more.

I don't really know why that is. But who knows. I didn't see anything that I particularly. really loved if any of two strokes at 350 felt good. Not bad. I don't know why. I don't know why, but it doesn't seem like that really sticks out to either one of us.

And then, um, an ace this week is minus 186, which I thought seemed aggressive. Well, it's because of 17, right? 17. They think somebody's to make a 1 that's 17.

I assume nobody makes a 1. Well, that's not true. Some people, nobody makes a 1 at 8. Do they do the pin in the front multiple days or just one day? I think they do it multiple days. multiple days.

Yeah. So if they do it multiple days, I could see that because what I then saw was to bet the 17th hole only for an ACE is plus two 10. Oh, right. So I was thinking if they're going to do two of the four days where that pin is in that front shelf or front swale,

I guess you would call, then I like it a lot. But if they only do one day, because obviously Sunday it'll be back right. They always have a day where it's kind of like middle right over the ridge and you see guys landed right next to the pin at one hops into the water. Oh, spins back off that thing and they have they have a problem for total balls in the water on 17 or

no. So I, we tried to get them to do this last year, I believe, and there's a, there's a provision against negative that. There's like legitimately a, a legal concern about,

focusing bets purely on negativity or something along those lines. I guess that makes sense. Yeah. So I don't know that they're allowed to do it. I would love to see it. I would bet the, I would bet the whole one. If I had to,

I wouldn't. but I would go with the no plus 130. But, but, you know, if I was going to, for fun, like 20 bucks or something,

you bet yes plus 210 and 17, you get to watch it. You guys makes a whole of one, then you win a little bit of money. That's kind of what I was thinking. So I might sprinkle a little bit on that. But other than that, uh,

you know, that's pretty much where we're at. I like that. I know you hate that. I like that. Well, you're picking the winner. I'm not saying gambling wise,

or who are you picking the win. I, you know, I bet, picking at tournament's very difficult. Obviously. Obviously. is not life or death.

We talked about that quite a bit. I don't hate, I don't hate Jordan Speeth. And I know that that's a nuts pick. I do think he's been, he's clearly been playing much better. He did probably what, three of the last five holes two days ago to go from what would have been

outright winning to finish in, you know, tied for fifth or whatever the hell it was. I think he's still waiting for, I know he's still waiting for that. Like he's actually back. kind of win. He had the win in Texas, whatever that was a year ago, year and a half ago. South Carolina, right? He was in Hilton Head. Well, he won Hilton. Oh, yeah, he won Hilton head. And then he also won in Texas, whatever that was two years ago. He's won a couple of

events. But he hasn't felt like he's Jordan Spieth again and like truly back, whatever. He's got to get to there at some point. He is 33 to 1. He's plus he's plus 3,300. If he was like one of these plus 1,500 guys, obviously wouldn't take it. And I just, I just, emotionally, I like follow speed like everybody does he's a heart pick so so no i i don't it's not like i'm telling anybody to go real hard on that jordan spith but um just scrolling through here i don't hate jordan spith i think it'd be fun down the stretch and um and yeah if you saw a lot of my picks i like if he's entertaining to watch i've always found jordan speed to be entertaining to watch all right so so uh all right so you'll be there right or you're not going to be there for a couple of those days i'm going to be there i'll be

there friday through sunday i'll be at the event okay oh yeah i saw the merchant that fantastic all the merchandise for sale there all that crazy stuff. Congratulations on that. Thank you. Thank you. It's, yeah, it's been a, it's been a hell of a come up from us because we used to have quite the, you know, negative relationship, I guess you would say, with the PGA tour. We didn't necessarily get along, arguably well. And, and now we've gotten to the point we have merchandise in their kind of flagship event. So it's pretty cool. Look at you. And I think I will be, I think, like, sitting around watching this with some barstool guys. Yeah, you're doing, I know your favorite sort of format of content that you've been raised. about for years. I don't, I think I'm participating this with just a bunch of these fatos just sitting around and looking at their phones for four hours. Are you going to wear like a, are you

going to wear like a backwards flat brim and a footy and just chow down on chips and yeah, yeah, okay. All right. Cool. I might, I might do some chew. Who knows? I think that's a good idea. Some Zen. You're going to get some Zen going to get some Zen going? Sure. I think anything's in place. I'm excited to watch that. How times I was like I go to do it, you know? I was thinking about Saturday instead of going to the tournament, I was going to just sit it in my hotel room and watch you guys on the live stream for the whole for the whole day. I thought that, yeah, that'd be riveting. And I bet you got some college basketball picks, right?

We got a tournament. Oh, yeah. When, you know, when I bet on, you know, whoever to hit the fairway on 12 when he does it, I'll jump up and chest bump with Jersey Jerry and scream at the thing. I think I think it's to do. So we still goes live in Massachusetts Friday. Yeah, the 10th, right? Is that Friday?

Yes, at 10 a.m. is I think I'm, am I hearing that correctly? If I'm not, they'll, they'll correct it. But I think that's right. So, you know, you can go and do all your stuff there. And I think a bunch of people, I guess, I'm not even, again, like I did, I have no idea where or what, what time or what's going on, but a bunch of people will be in Massachusetts gambling this weekend.

I think I'll be among them for some period of time. Is it like the old Milton office? Are they doing something like that? I don't know if they're going to be a plane rage or the, I have, I have, I'm, when I tell you, I have no idea. Dana Beer's parents house or something. Maybe, maybe. Okay.

Okay. My parents grave. I have no idea. It could be absolutely anyway. The hell knows. That'd be pretty spicy, right? That'd be happy as can be. All right.

So that's episode one in the books. We're back next week. Next week the tour is, where do we go next week? Oh, we're, um, Balspar? Okay. Balspar's next week. Yeah, so we'll be there. All right.

All right. So Riggs. And I guess, I don't know, anything else we have to promote or say or no. I don't know. I don't know. I'm asking you. I don't know why he's weighing on. What's that?

Cohen ain't waited on that? He's shaking his head for some reason. Gotcha. Yeah, no, he's the, like I said, he's kind of the last stop here on any information or decisions. Oh, good. So as long as colonnades good and things that we did a good show, I feel like, I'm all set. All right. Okay.

We'll talk to you later. Goodbye.