Fore Play - Matthew Fitzpatrick On The Return Of Golf
Episode Date: June 16, 2020Our favorite Englishman Matthew Fitzpatrick (35:14) joins the show while driving a minivan across South Carolina to discuss what it was like to be back out on tour with no fans, social distancing amon...g the tour crew, designing his home course on The Golf Club video game, taking on the Fore Man Scramble and MUCH more. Before Fitz, Sir Nick is rattling Riggs’ cage, Frankie updates progress on Knives Creek, and we breakdown everything from this past week’s Charles Schwab Challenge including Berger’s win, Bryson’s bombs, Spieth’s resurgence and everything else!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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PGA Tour was back.
First weekend in three months that we've had professional golf.
It was great.
A lot of people were following.
I noticed KFC was tweeting about it and Mush was tweeting about it.
A bunch of folks were into golf because something that we've been talking about four months during this entire pandemic is, hey, golf's a sport that could come back.
It could come back earlier.
There's natural social distancing.
So it did come back.
Almost everybody play.
I mean, there are a few names who didn't.
Tiger Woods, obviously, who is an enigma.
Everyone knows that.
But Rory, J.T., Brooks, there were huge names in the mix.
Going into a weekend, we had kind of an all-star leaderboard.
So there's a lot to break down.
We have Matthew Fitzpatrick on the show, the People's Eurogoffer, who's one of our guys.
he, of course, took issue with Frankie saying he could beat him up at the BGA
championship at Beth Page.
His caddy, we think, could potentially be what, like an Irish mobster and grabbed
Frankie kind of by the neck.
And ever since then, he's been one of our boys.
So he's been through a lot.
He was overseas across the pond.
We talked to him a couple months ago.
I don't know when that was two, three months ago.
And he just had like a net.
And he was hitting balls into a net.
And he's come all the way from there to play.
in the PJ tour event.
He finished, I believe, tied for 32nd at the Charles Schwab Challenge this past weekend.
So we get into all that.
He's in like a minivan van driving across Hilton Head.
So we get into it, Matthew Fitzpatrick.
It's summertime, by the way.
It's summertime.
It's hot.
People are out and about.
We talk about that a lot during the show.
We talk about people out in the streets in New York, maybe down at the lounge,
the Rider Cup lounge here at the Carolina Hotel in Pinehurst, the drum and quill,
all the different bars in town are now.
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There's cubed ice.
There's a bunch of different kinds of ice.
It's a whole ice industry.
Yeah.
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You just want to order it.
You want to get it.
You want to unbox it.
And then you want to take the ice out.
They're quick, but they're not that quick.
They're not that quick.
Yeah.
So the order of operations, right, if you remember back to math,
and if you get that order of operations wrong
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yeah that's right
ice really is all about timing
you know like you
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I actually popped it we put on their Instagram store
I popped in Owen's mixers
and mix it with a little new am
and vodka to celebrate the opening of Borrellis.
And it was just good vibes.
The opening of the world, it feels like people are finally leaving their house and, you know,
having drinks at establishments.
And I decided to celebrate with a nice Owens mixer and vodka.
And it felt great.
It actually went down real smooth.
I've still never gotten a great answer as to how they kept things cold during the warm months before refrigerators.
and freezers were created.
Ice blocks, right?
Like, the ice just melts.
Like, what do you mean?
It's like, where do you get ice?
Holy shit, that ruined my day.
Did they?
I was hoping you don't have a freezer.
How are you going to make ice?
They not have anything cold?
They didn't have anything cold?
Don't they put stuff in the ground?
That makes the temperature is lower down there.
You dig a hole.
You tell me right now, Triff, I go put a bunch of ice in the fucking ground.
Put you in a hole.
It's not going to melt.
I didn't think you were going to press me.
I was hoping I was going to say we were going to be like.
Excavator and just dig out a hole in the ground, throw you in it.
I think there's an excavator.
Something to do with digging into the ground.
Okay.
Was there, I mean, there wasn't, when was the invention of like ice cubes?
That had to have been an invention, right?
Well, I think they had ice, but like, I know that they had ice.
How did, like, people, how did people in the,
1800s in
Arizona have ice.
I don't think that they did.
That's the only
conclusion I can come up with.
Where the fuck when they get it from?
So they lived their whole life with that drink and a cold drink.
A cold drink is a modern delicacy.
That's what you're trying to tell me?
In certain places.
A cold.
Hot all the time, how are you going to get ice?
And ice cold water is a
is a modern day delicacy.
It was,
they were so,
Arizona was so shocked when they had a first beverage.
they made an iced tea and they made Arizona
She's telling me like Rome
Like Roman emperors
Didn't have ice cold drinks
So I think that's different
Because I think the ice box thing that we said
I think they could get it so readily
That like they could get stuff
Within a few weeks if it came in gigantic quantities
They had ways to like insulate it
So it wouldn't melt
But like if it's the middle of summer
I don't think that they did
How's it going to get from fucking cold places
to alarm places and not melt.
We need a Frankie fax
on this quick. Yeah, I don't
have an answer.
Trent said just put it in the fucking ground.
I think that's part of it.
It's colder in the ground.
Look, the whole point of this is
Owensmanches.com.
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You get 15% off. You can make a cocktail.
But don't put the ice in now
because like before the freezer
was invented, it'll just fucking melt.
So you got to wait.
and then you put it in when they get the always.
But boys, it's nice to be back.
It's nice to have watched a little bit of golf.
How are we doing?
I'm doing fantastic.
I'm doing this thing where I don't think I speak into the microphone.
It just goes into my ear.
So if it sounds like I'm far away,
I think I'm just talking through the computer.
Was great to watch golf.
It was a beautiful weekend in New York.
I don't know about anywhere else in the world,
but I know that the weather was perfect here.
nice go out catch some sun catch some rays maybe take a little dip in the pool come inside with a
cocktail and watch golf like boy was that living like it felt good to be back for a little bit there
um the golf was cruel i thought that it showed the highs and lows of what the sport can do and how
fucked up and insane it is that you can have like great rounds you can be a top of the line player
you can be on top of the world and then you just lip out because maybe like i don't know the hole was
on like it was not cut correctly or something like i'm seeing a lot of things on twitter
now. I mean, there's no reason those balls
shouldn't have gone in. That was crazy, especially
Shafley's went inside the cup and popped out.
Oh, absolutely criminal. Interesting, actually. There's like
somebody talking about, like,
that hole wasn't cut correctly because it was the
same hole for both those guys that it was just
brutal lip-outs. Yeah, that's more a cow.
Could have been a little bit... There's rumors.
It could have been a little bit too low. Like, the cup was
centered, like, was too low in the ground.
Maybe a little bit too much dirt or
there was a lip inside or something
maybe it was on a little bit of an angle.
You know, shit like that needs to be thought about, man.
That ball went inside the hole.
Well, now that you're a course architect,
you've got to think about all that stuff.
Right.
I actually made a bet on Morikawa
when he pushed his like T-shot right in the rough
because his odds went up to plus 175.
So I took a bet and then I was all amped up
when he had that short little par putt and then completely devastated
when that was out.
He choked his putt a little bit more.
Like, Shafleys was inside center cup.
Yes.
Chawberies, I thought, was shoved a little bit, too.
I thought, like, it was so, yeah.
Because we saw who was in Woodland, who came through, like, two groups earlier.
Woodland came through, like, two groups earlier, and they were like, yeah, that putt tricks people.
It kind of goes the other way a little bit.
And then that's exactly what happened to Zandis.
That's slow-mo, though, man.
It goes in the cup, man.
Like, touches the bottom of the cup and comes back out.
Fully was submerged at one point.
Like, I mean, how does that not go in the hole?
Well, and more couch should have made the put on 18, too.
Correct.
He should have made that, and it would have been over.
But shout out to Daniel Berger.
I mean, he played a great round.
He was just very consistent, and he got it done, man.
He's not that exciting of a player from me to Roof 4.
I'm never going to be like a Daniel Berger stand, but, you know, it is what is.
What are you looking at, Trent?
Can you guys hear that?
Yeah, I can hear that.
What is that?
Everybody can hear that.
I don't know.
It's in New York City.
World's that noise.
People are honking?
Somebody's driving down second half.
Is that a voo-z-zala?
Is this the World Cup?
Yeah, it's, uh, some of the United States.
Somebody's just driving down Second Avenue.
Remember those fucking vooosales?
Those things were a problem.
Everybody knew what they were.
And then everyone had to mute their...
There's just nonstop.
That is exactly what that sounded like.
That's a good poll by you.
Burger.
Yeah, we had burger on the show in like September.
It was weird because he had a stretch.
He had won twice before this was his third win.
He was at one point he was part of the President's Cup team at Liberty National.
He had made the comment when people were talking about...
Because you remember the U.S. team basically won.
it on Saturday.
Like,
you didn't even have to play on Sunday.
Yeah,
I asked him something about the lopsided
and it's the competition.
He was like,
I hope we stop him by even more tomorrow.
Like that was,
you know,
I want to win.
And he kind of got roasted for that.
People like,
he's this cocky,
whatever.
And so it was nice to,
to, again,
see him kind of come back
because he wasn't playing.
But he was also on the losing end
of that speed at the travelers.
When Speed holed hold out from the bunker
and then threw his wedge
across the fucking golf course
and jumped into Michael Greller's arms.
Like,
uh,
Burger was on the losing end of that. So it was cool. It was nice to see a guy like that
get back into the winner's circle. This also felt like a bigger tournament. I mean, I know
that it's just the fucking colonial, the Charles Schwab Challenge, but it felt huge. Like,
they were more eyeballs on it. I'm sure the ratings were higher. Rory was in the field. J.T.
Brooks, all these megastars were in the field. So it felt huge. I also, I want to say, like,
Sir Nick, I know he likes to roast me and he likes to share a vessel of it. Like, they don't get
enough shit for how wrong they are. Like on that put, on, um, Morikawa's put on 18 to win the tournament.
Sir Nick's like, yep, you just got to like start this on the left half and it should fall in there.
And it just blatantly like broke to the left. And you can see Morcao was stunned by it too.
But it's like nobody holds those guys accountable for that. I guess some of those like 17 and
18 it did feel like guys were kind of mis-triks once, sir Nick. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. That's a freebie shot.
That's a Frankie shot when he's not around. You, you, you did preface and you say, yeah, we got a history
with him yet he chirped you by your entire lifestyle the last time he was on the show but boy that was the
first time you've ever gone after an analyst like that and it just so happened to be sir nick faldo well he's
also doing the thing where he's like trying he he's had multiple tweets trying to chirp me about tiger's
yacht thing like i claimed that like my my scoop was that tiger's definitely playing the tournament
my scoop was very accurate i was like this is just where tiger was his yacht is that's like what i
reported i and that's correct we've crossed over to the point where you're actually mad at sir
Nick Fault, though. Like before he was ball busting and now it has turned into something else.
Which means he's winning. Oh, yeah. What do you mean? Like him, like he's constantly berating you.
He's constantly coming at you. He's hitting you with one, two punches every single day where it's
daily night. The way you start the videos, your content, and then your scoops, like you just can't
take the punches from Sir Nick that now you're lashing out at the way he read a put in the broadcast.
I don't get that Sir Nick's
So Sir Nick's able to chirby, I'm just
chirping him back here and now it's not like lashing
out, I'm just responding.
This is my platform to respond.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
It's quite a rivalry that's developed.
It's a little bit of a, it's fine.
It's a good rivalry.
I like that we have a little rivalry.
For sure.
It's also like I think it's, he came on and was like trying to say like we
shouldn't do ads in our show and like the entire internet's losing their mind
over how many commercials they're doing.
Like you got to pay.
your salary, we got to pay our salary.
So I'm just, you know, I mean, maybe,
maybe Sir Nick just like to fire.
I'm trying to fire back.
I will, you, one of your tweets you said something about up here in the high road.
I don't know if you're up there anymore.
Yeah, that was a little bit sarcastic.
That's like, I'm going to take the high road,
then I'm going to, I'm going to chirp them.
That's, you know, that was part of the deal.
Talking about the broadcast, I thought that it was fine without fans.
I actually didn't even notice at one point.
Like, I almost, like, had to remind myself that there wasn't fans there.
Sometimes you'd see like, you know, especially during the beginning of the week when Ricky was like,
miced up and stuff on Thursday and Friday, like he'd do the little like, oh, thank you, thank you.
And you're like, oh yeah, they're making a joke because there's no fans there.
But aside from that, man, like, fine, keep the fans out.
I don't give a shit.
I mean, unless I'm personally missing, like, I want to see like Tiger Woods or whatever going to an event, like for right now to keep the world where it is and let us have sports.
Like, I'm completely fine with there being no fans at golf events.
Yeah, I watched all weekend.
And the only time that I noticed was, I believe it was Xander's putt on 16, where he made another long one.
And it was like, oh, that's a huge moment.
And it was completely crickets.
But other than that, you didn't know.
But even so, when you're watching a TV, like, I made a noise when that put happened.
So, like, it wasn't even like, I wasn't waiting for that shot of, like, the crowd going crazy.
I was just like, boom, like in my own living room.
You know what I mean?
So, like, you don't even, you don't even feel it.
Like, I feel like at baseball games or football games, you, like, want the crowd to be, like, at the
same level as you when you're watching it.
Like you almost get into it more when you hear the crowd in the background.
Like a power play during a hockey game, you hear them all start to get up it.
But for golf, like, it's after the event, it's after like he hits the long putt
and then you make the noise.
So like there's no buildup for that.
You know what does that make any sense what I'm saying?
Like I'm washing out what the noise would have been because I'm screaming in my,
like a lunatic of my own living room.
I hear what you're saying.
There's no buildup noise.
There's nothing, right.
Momentum and energy and like a good shift in hockey.
it's literally just like you there's no precursor to a good shot.
Yes.
Right.
I just know that that was the one time where it felt like to me,
that would have been where the crowd would have gone crazy.
And instead it was just,
all right,
Zander's going to go get his ball out of the hole and that's it.
We can ask,
my brains.
So is Matthew Fitzpatrick going to be on the show as of right now?
Or this is the beginning?
This is,
I think he hasn't been on.
He wants you to guess.
He hasn't been on yet,
but we've also already talked to him for a little bit.
Yeah, we try.
Yeah, we've failed.
an absolute nightmare.
I don't know how we're going to get back into that.
But Matthew,
I want to ask Fitsy,
is that what,
I don't know why,
I would just call it.
That's fucking disgusting.
I want to ask Fits,
is that okay?
Yeah.
I want to ask Fitz,
like,
part of me almost felt like it was like an eerie,
almost more nerve-wracking experience with no fans.
Like I could almost imagine
stepping up to that like 17th hole,
like that put or even 18,
and having a complete,
complete dead silence knowing you have to hit a tournament clinching or like tying put and it being even more nerve wracking with no one there.
And also that there's no one there, but you know that behind and inside of those camera lenses, there's even more people watching than normal because fans can't be out.
I was passing a radio as if it was 1950. I overheard a radio. I think it was Boomer and Geo.
and I think they said that Saturday
had 50% higher viewers
in last year's tournament
I believe that
I believe that I mean this tournament right
it's not like this is usually a huge draw
it's like it has huge numbers
and it's gonna have
like probably I would guess it will have
some of the bigger PGA tour event type numbers
you know like a
like when if Tiger or somebody like playing
like Bay Hill or I don't know that it's going to be
as high as players championship but
there's a lot of fucking people watching
and that was very obvious on Twitter.
With the fans thing,
I didn't really notice it either.
One thing that I thought was cool was like
when Berger was able to just walk out of the clubhouse
and stand on the balcony and watch
Morikawa Putt to try to win the tournament.
And he was just right there.
He was the only person watching,
literally on the premise.
So it was,
that was,
but the fan thing,
I couldn't agree more.
I didn't even notice it.
Like,
I didn't think I noticed it once.
There was no fans.
The only other one,
which I saw kind of recycle on Twitter today,
was the Kang hole in one when he didn't even know it went in.
Yeah, that's true.
Because there's no fan.
So he just like, he hit it.
It went into the hole.
The cameras saw going the hole.
He just took his glove off and just started walking around the pond.
Yeah.
No clue that he had an ace.
Now, I thought for a second.
When they hit good ones, they don't watch it.
Like when I hit a good one, I watch it the whole way.
They just hit a good one and he's already like picking up his tea and just like
thinking about the pot he's going to have to make that's probably inside like five feet.
I thought for a second that he like almost.
almost new and just like was playing it's so cool.
I think he found out like under the tree like as he walked around the pond.
But at first I'm like, is this guy fucking kidding me?
Like I'm saying to myself like, look at this fucking guy.
Like the balls on him to just take your glove off and be like, ho-hum, just another day.
Like just a one.
Just put me in for a dash there.
It's like, you kidding me?
Yeah, he, I think he found out.
I think the Barstow tweet said that too.
like what a casual reaction to home one.
But it's like, no, he just didn't,
and he just didn't know that he got a whole on one.
But outside of that, like the broadcast, you know,
they were doing the confessional cameras,
which was, I mean, it was a little bit weird,
but also under the circumstances, fine.
You know, you got a couple little tidbits.
Like you got some funny moments like kids and Dewey
walking behind the camera on that one
and like giving a little love to the camera.
There was a lot of the controversy about, you know,
people have been saying that folks should be miced up.
folks should be miced up on the tour and that Ricky was the only one that said yes and then i think
adam hadwin came over the top and was like actually i volunteered like weeks ago um so it was a
little bit of like he said she said um trying to figure out all that who who really right i wish they
were like we've had literally no one volunteer except for hadwin but we obviously like imagine they
said that like we're not fucking micing that guy up he sucks and then it's like we had no real
people that volunteered.
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the broadcast no shortage and i say no shortage of bryson d shambeau jokes just as many as they could
pack into the broadcast i get that he gained a lot of weight he now looks like the incredible
hulk but every time i looked up and was tuned into my television there was another bison b shambo
well that short video he put out i mean he prompted it all on top of the way he looked we haven't talked
about that video yet no no no no worst video on the internet
Yes, it is.
Like, put, like, like, there's a lot of bad things happen in the world, so I won't say,
like, I won't say it as far as that.
But, like, actually trying to create content, it's the worst video ever put out.
I don't understand how you watch that video back as Bryson D. Shambau, and it's 15 minutes long.
There's no talking.
Zero.
None.
I don't know.
There are a few, a couple words up front.
There's a few words up front.
And then it's dead.
It's literally the move drive.
You ever see you?
So for anyone that doesn't know what the fuck we're talking about, Bryce and DeShambeau put up
this quarantine recap video.
It's 15 minutes long on his Instagram story.
There's shots of him looking outside the window, like, thinking.
There's shots of him, like, washing his car.
Hold on.
Can you stop there?
Because that's...
He trims his trees.
He cleans his pool.
He walks on a tie rope.
He drives his belly.
He goes and scouts out of what I were supposed to assume is going to be his future home.
He drives his belly some more.
He washes his belly.
He gets grocery.
he's in his Bentley. He goes to Chris Cuomo's house. He shoots hoops in his living room. He practices
a swing in Chris Cuomo's living, Cuomo's living room. I can't say that name. I get it confused
with Andrew Cuomo. And it's just, there's no talking. It's the most absurd video I've ever seen.
And there's like these, it's completely like, like, there's a production value that you've never
quite seen before in a video like this. Like there's shots from the ceiling of him waking up,
walking to the kitchen.
And I almost want to throw him a bone and say that he had really nothing to do with
like the look of this.
Maybe he had the idea like, hey, I want to shoot like a recap video.
I want to show the people what I've been doing like during the quarantine.
I think it'd be like engaging content, like, you know, give people a peek behind the curtain
of what I've been doing.
But it came out horrible.
It came out worse than you could imagine.
It's just it's the, you watch it and you just scream, douchebag.
And I don't think Bryson is a douchebag.
No.
I don't know.
It's just really hard to watch.
And we put out fucking dumb videos all the time too.
People shit on our stuff.
So Bryson, if this ends up, I mean, I'm sure you listen to this because he comments and all the stuff that we say bad about him.
But like, I'm not knocking you for trying to make it.
I actually think it's a good idea.
I think it's engaging.
I think people do want to see it.
I think that little stuff like that.
Like how often do you get to see an athlete walk from his bed to the fucking kitchen?
Like that's actually something that's like pretty cool.
He had the camera on 24-7.
I just don't like the style that it was shot in.
I don't think it's so serious.
Like, bro, there's a lot of shit going on the world.
Yeah, it was almost like they shot it in two days, right?
Yes.
And like him walking home for the first time, like it seems staged that he was like,
that's not real.
And then him not talking to the camera or showing his personality.
Because I actually think his personality, if you're a pro side,
is the one that drives the bus, like of how he thinks through things and like his mind.
and he didn't share any of that.
And then you're just watching him
become the Incredible Hulk
like two or whatever days before the tournament
actually played.
And then when you see him out there,
he looked preposterous
and to the fact his shirt
looked like the bottom was black.
So it looked like it was a back brace
holding up his just Hulk like arms.
It was incredible.
Or it looked like his pants were up to his nipple.
That's what it looks like.
Yeah, it did.
You know like the cartoons
of the really strong guys
where their pants are all the way up to their fucking nipples
and they're just walking around with their big shoulders.
He looks massive, but he's also hitting the golf ball.
I was just, I was going to say.
So he led the field in driving distance with an average of 340 yards this week.
An average.
An average of 340 yards.
That's a fucking disgusting.
Gloria McElroy, who was considered probably the best driver of the golf ball
in the history of golf, average 340 yards.
315 yards this week.
Bryson 340, he was driving it accurately.
He was driving it miles.
He was taking lines on this fucking golf course at Colonial that were laughable.
He's playing with Justin Rose at one point.
And Justin Rose had to take like the Speeth line, if you recall at Glen Oaks on the 18th hole.
And everyone was like, oh my God, when DJ just won the fucking tournament by hitting it over the bunker and over the lake.
And speed had to hit a way out to the right.
He did that to Justin Rose, who is not a short hitter at all.
He was pounding.
Listen to these drive numbers.
Longest drives of the week for Bryson D. Shambu.
367, 365, 365, 357, 355, 354, 354, 353, 359, and on and on it goes.
So what he is doing and what he has set his mind to doing is working, right?
And he's driving it accurately.
So for that, you have to give him credit.
And he could have easily won yesterday's tournament.
Yes.
And overall, right, his other stuff was great, like his touch and a clear.
to have a chance to win a fucking golf tournament
that has the best players in the world there
except for Tiger Woods the best player of all time
and he should have. I mean, he hit some puts down the stretch
that very easily could have gone in.
He is doing everything and it is working.
And like, you know, I was trying to think right
because we've been trained for years now
to hear Brandl Shambly go on and talk about, you know,
Rory beefing up and Tiger beefing up
and how they get injured and how it never works
and it's a detriment. You should never go down that path.
Well, I heard Brandl make a really good analogy
metaphor yesterday where he at one point he said you know because because I think it was rich
learned it was asking him kind of the same thing and and brandle said you know on some level like
it's just working he got stronger and is hitting the ball way farther and brandle made the metaphor
of you know you try to you try to bang a nail into a wall and you're using a pencil and it just
won't work you bang a hammer into a wall using a hammer and it fucking works and he was like
Mass matters, and clearly Bryson has figured that out and is hitting it way farther and straight,
and you just can't knock that.
It changes everything about golf, and it's fucking true.
Like, we, the video I agree with Frankie that, like, I love the idea.
I hope this doesn't deter him from revealing more.
You just got to go back to the drawing board with the style.
You got to go back.
You got to workshop it and say, you know, that didn't really work.
We're going to try it a different way.
He should keep doing that because I think putting out that kind of content is fucking awesome.
it just needs to be better because that was awful
and it was impossible to watch.
And overall, what he's doing works.
Like he made, he also told the world in like fucking November or October like,
oh, by the way, I'm going to go get Jack because I want to hit it way farther.
I was like, oh, okay.
And then we laughed at him in December.
He looked ridiculous in December.
Now he's three times the size and it all worked.
So it's like on some level, he's fucking, he figured something out.
Dude, I wish I had an expression for how much I flip flop.
I'm more of like a, I don't know, pancake maker at I hop or something like that.
But listen to me, I think I'm coming back on Team Bryson.
And I know I've hated on him.
I've loved him.
He is so unlikable at times and also so likable at the same exact time.
It's one of the more perplexing things in all of sports.
Like I do think he's got a very, very thin skin.
And that pisses me off because like, bro, you're fucking,
you're like this young, really cool golfer that hits the ball,
367 yards. Who cares if someone says something bad about your golf game? No one's like disparaging like
your life or your family and shit. Who cares? You know what I mean? Like it's about golf. We're leaving it
all on the golf course. So at that point like stop commenting on our Instagram page every time we
write something bad and being like, oh, you're never going to hear me on the pot again. That's stupid
shit. When it comes to this stuff, like watching that video is hilarious to how bad it was.
But then also watching him walk down the fair way is laugh out loud funny. Just him being him is now
funny. Him hitting the ball, 365
yards is laugh out loud funny.
Everything about him makes me laugh.
And then he actually
gets in contention to tournament. So like, I'm
kind of going to be rooting for him to win now.
I think I'm back on Team Bryson.
I was rooting so hard for him to win
yesterday. And it's crossed over, right?
Because I had a KFCU
was tweeting about it. He was texting me
about Bryson, how preposterous
he looks. But it is crossing over to people
being like, what is going on
over here in the golf world? Just, you know,
24 months ago, this guy was rail thin.
He was wearing the Ben Hogan hat and everybody was like,
oh, he loves using a pro tractor out there.
And now he looks like the incredible Hulk, what the hell is going on?
So he brings in eyeballs from people who are normally watching golf.
So I'm on his side in that respect.
The fact that he went from the nerd to the jock within four months is hilarious.
After I'm pretty sure in this, he could dispute this.
And maybe I'm wrong on the timeline after him and Brooks got into the tussle on the
driving range being like, oh, you're taking too long.
And then I feel like he started packing on a month.
That had to be at least one of the motivations for turning into what he is.
But I almost, man, a lot of these guys have things that irk me and Brooks being the fact that he is,
and I think I've used this analogy before, but Brooks is the guy where he, oh, oh, look at this.
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we are joined for the third time
by a good buddy of ours,
our English mate. He is the 25th ranked player in the world. He's coming off a T-32 this past week when
golf resumed five-time European tour winner. Also a 2013 U.S. Amateur champ, and I'm pretty sure he told
us he didn't even know what the tournament was when he won the tournament. Matthew Fitzpatrick,
welcome to the show, my friend. Thank you. Good to be back.
So you're aware right now? You're in a little rental car. Is that what's going on?
I'm in a minivan
Yeah
As you're an American
It would be a
Soccer mom
Car
Why'd you go with the minivan?
Because this week
Normally we're lucky enough to get
Like given
BMW or something
But this
This week there's no cars
courtesy cars
A miniband left
Is that okay
I'm like yeah
It's gonna get me from A to B
That's fine
I can't wait
I want a video of you rolling up
to the golf course, like with, you know, Tiger would have rolled up on, like, his yacht and, like, Phil
Phil probably coming on like a chopper.
And Matthew Fitzpatrick's rolling in in a soccer mom, like Toyota, whatever.
I don't even know what a name of a mini-vary.
Like a Toyota Sienna.
Yeah.
I just picture fits in the backseat, maybe in one of the captain's seats with a little drop-down
TV there and just enjoying the ride.
That's great.
Yeah, if you're, I will say, if you're in, like,
like the final, final group, you know, the camera crew, they're all over the arrivals now.
So you got to, like, we really need you this week to roll in in that minivan on Sunday.
The only problem is I might 20 yards from the first T.
So, I mean, I can fake it for you guys.
I can drive in, even though I'd be driving like 10 yards.
But I can do that if I'm up there, okay?
Okay.
Can you make that promise to us that if you're in the mix in the last couple of final groups,
you have to get in your minivan and drive to the course?
Yeah, that's perfect, perfect. Boom.
So, you know, there's been a lot going on.
Last time you talked to us like three months ago, you were back home, we were across the pond.
It was like, are we ever even going to be able to see you again?
You got border issues.
You got to go, you know, traveling between countries, getting back.
What has your journey been like to now have played in a PGA tour event,
gotten back over to the States, gotten out of the UK?
What's kind of the whole journey been?
like? It's been it's been good to be fair. The journey over was was pretty smooth. It was easy. The only
thing was when I got to the to the airport in the UK, there was a US customs agent and he was like,
you know, where you're going? I was like, well, to America. And he was like, well, to America.
and they was like, well, how are you going to get in, you know?
And I said, well, I've been given this special waiver
that allows me to get in.
And then he heard nothing about it.
And he had to go make some calls for like 20 minutes.
This is all before checking in.
So I was at this point, I'm thinking,
what if it's not gone through yet?
What if it's not attached to my passport, whatever it is?
And basically he came back and he was like, you're all good.
So as soon as I got the door clear from the UK side,
just got on the plane and I was good to go, really.
So that was smooth.
And then quarantine was also very smooth.
It was one of those things that I could still practice, so that was good.
And I could still play.
So, yeah, it was pretty easy.
When you were having that discussion with the securities agent, did you tell him you were a golfer or did he not recognize you?
Because if not, he probably thought you were a spy of some sort or how did that go down?
No, I mean, I told him that as a golfer.
I took like the press release from the, well, yeah, I guess it'd be from the U.S. government website.
There was a press release saying that there was going to be special waivers given to
given to athletes all over the world to allow them entry into the country to compete and stuff.
So he kept that.
He was like, can I have a copy of that?
I was like, sure.
So he kept the press release, which was literally just printed out.
I mean, it could have been anything.
I was just going to say, be funny.
You're like, I'm a golfer.
He's like, yeah, I'm a golfer, too, pal.
I'm like, get the back of a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not coming in.
You're not coming in.
I also would have loved that.
Do you know who I am, meltdown video.
Do you know who I am?
I'm Matthew Fitzman.
Then he gets back to America and just gets in his minivan and tries to off.
Let's go to win.
So golf-wise, you know, now you arrived last week.
I was kind of texting you, like, should we have you on the show?
And like, we want to hear what it's been like.
But now you've been through an entire week, like, you know, how did you get there?
Did you take kind of a, was there a charter yet to get there?
Did you just fly commercial to the Charles Schwab to Colonial?
Oh.
Fitz, you hear me?
Can you guys hear me?
Yep.
I think he might have just, uh, he was on the parkway.
Oh, he said he was going in a tunnel or the, what did he say?
He's going on the highway and he won't be able to call back in.
How are you?
Good, Maddie.
How are you doing?
Same body type as Bryson right here.
We were just talking about Bryson and his, uh, changed.
body. Yeah, I have a similar build, right? What, you got to have that lanyard to get around or something?
Yeah, otherwise they won't let you in. It looks like a volunteer. Don't give me that one. I've
had ball boy, I've had volunteer, you name it. Oh, wow. All right. All right, so we started with
fits earlier. People, you guys just heard that. And then, you know, the minivan, I guess you cut out,
maybe you went into a tunnel or something. Yeah, it was, it was bad. That car.
is not great.
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Let's pick up where we were.
We had asked, you know, we were getting into a little bit of getting to the states
from being back in England, back home,
and we were talking about arriving at the tournament
and sort of what the whole process was like,
getting to colonial and restarting the PGA tour.
Yeah.
I mean, it was really easy last week.
Everything was sort of, sort of, yeah, just organized really, really well.
And I obviously went for a test on the Monday after I landed,
and that was very straightforward.
We just sort of parts up, got out, went into this little tent,
gave your name, got this thing stuck so far up your nose.
Touched the brain.
Literally touched the brain, yeah.
And then two hours later, you get the results and you get given a special pass that allows you to go in the clubhouse.
And then, I mean, you could practice all you want even before getting the results.
So it wasn't really a problem.
And, yeah, everything was easy.
The PJ tour, to be fair, I've done a really good job to make it really smooth.
So, like, two hours seems really quick.
Like how was the rest of kind of the people handling it, the other players, the other caddies right away?
Like, were people, some people weirder about the social distancing than others, people strict, some not?
Like, how would people handle that?
No, I mean, no one was social distancing at all.
The PJTor kept sending texts around saying, you know, please, social distance is important for our sport and health and safety.
and yeah it just I mean for me personally if you've tested negative and your caddies tested negative
like there's no problem to be to be around around them really but yeah there wasn't really much
social distancing going on which obviously isn't great but I mean there was talks at first that
the caddy had to carry the bag and then stand six feet away from the bag when they put it down
and then you could only pull the club
and they couldn't pull the club
and I think that went out of the window very fast.
I suppose that's more about optics, right?
Because like you're saying,
if you're all tested,
then you're not going to give it or get it
or get it from anyone.
So it's really for the people watching on TV
who are kind of maybe weirded out
by people not social distancing.
Yeah, and I have to admit
I've been watching TV shows
and all sorts of series
and like people are shaking hands and stuff
and I'm thinking,
why are people doing it like that?
And then I realized that, you know, it's not real life.
Right.
Well, I guess that's like what's happening in real life, though.
At restaurants and bars and stuff, we're slowly opening up the country now.
And you're seeing a nice weekend in New York this past weekend.
And everyone's on the streets of New York City.
And we're all acting like, you know, you're back in the mix.
But then you have to take a step back and say, well, this is only step two.
And we do have.
So I see where the PGA tour is coming from because you want to slowly.
We don't ever want to go.
go through this again, right? So you might as well deal with all the bullshit now so that we don't
have to do this anymore so we can we can start going to golf events, right? Absolutely. Absolutely.
I mean, it needs, yeah, golf events definitely need fans again after I've done now.
We were just talking about that. So, so I actually thought when I was watching it, I didn't notice it
that much, right? Like you, the camera's always on you guys, there's shots, whatever, around the
greens, you notice it a little bit, but for you playing, was it like almost eerie? Was it almost more
nerve-wracking not having fans there because that's how I felt like you guys no i mean i mean
like nothing it was it was fine for me because i was like middle of the pack and no one was bothered
about watching me anyway so it was like normal um but like for the guys at the top and i watched like
two shots in the playoff and the guys coming down the stretch i'm thinking i mean you just must be so
shit like you know you make a long put to get in the lead and there's just silence and it's just like
a well done from your playing partner and it's just like a bit awkward if anything so for me like
the playoff ended and he was like is is it over in there was people didn't really know what to do and
and i think that's that's the bit that's going to be missed the most is like when things are
coming down the stretch people win and you know someone could win by 12 and the crowd could be going
wild like here on on sunday and it's just going to be silence and it's going to be like well done
you've won by 12 and it's just like a pat on the back but there's no there's no motions there's
no feeling around the place so he's just very very strange right like that long zander put you guys
would have heard it inside the clubhouse yeah exactly that's the other thing you know the master's
is always a great example and the rider cup if you're watching it on tv you hear the cheers you're
like oh shit someone's done something on 13 augusta or rider cook or someone's hold of put
two matches behind or whatever and and then they sort of show it but i mean like right now someone
someone does that it's just silence you've no idea does that like does that take away from part of like
your guys enjoyment of it right because like as a competitor you know you work your whole life to get up
to this level and like the money's great and all that but like on some level you love it you love
the competition you love thriving off the crowd like we talk about that in every sport thriving
off the crowd home field advantage and you get that in golf you get like big roars when you
you do good things and I'm sure that sort of like propels you momentum.
Do you feel like that sort of takes away part of the enjoyment at all?
Not for me personally.
I think if anything, it's more for you guys at home.
You know, the calling missed to lose, people, you're going to hear the crowd react to that.
And that's what people at home want to hear really to make it sort of feel like they're almost there themselves.
and right now, obviously, with no fans.
Like I say, I didn't really mind it all all week,
but watching it on TV,
I just felt like it was a little bit awkward almost,
and that, you know, there was nothing really to go on with it.
Yeah, it did feel a little awkward on TV.
Were you, like, nervous getting back going, like Thursday?
Were you a little more, I mean, three, four-month layoff?
not really not really um fortunately the first t-shot was driver and you can just leather it so
you just let it go and and it doesn't really matter and then you just you're like right we're off
so um that wasn't too bad but um i mean for me i'd just i'd been practicing like the two weeks prior
so it almost felt normal anyway that we were so it's just back playing if anything i feel like
there was more excitement.
Like, then sometimes you kind of, it can, sorry.
Sorry, lost you there.
Sometimes.
Sometimes it can feel like a bit of a job.
That's Corona, yeah.
We can, I was saying, a little cup of water.
I'm surprised someone at the PGA Tourd and just sticks something up your nose,
like, as you're finishing that cop,
a guy comes up underneath the camera and just sleeps into your brain.
Or puts him in a lot.
It's just like,
yeah.
I forgot where we win.
I don't know.
Yeah,
I forgot to.
But what I was going to say is,
you said,
like,
the first T's driver,
you just grip it and rip it,
which is crazy to me
because when it's first whole driver
for me,
I'm like,
this could go anywhere
because it's a bigger,
it's a bigger miss
and the whole thing.
What's like the one,
like,
club that you're like,
oh, shit,
we got to start with this?
Like,
what's your least favorite?
club is it like a low stinger that you have to hit off the first year?
Yeah, it'd be starting with like a three, like an awkward three wood hole that's like a really,
you know, you know if you rip it, like it might just run out, but if you neck it, you've got like
250 and it's just like a really awkward hole.
It makes you think too early, right?
You're using your brain.
Exactly. Yeah, you just want to swing.
Yeah.
So in terms of 17, I don't know.
we were like talking just right before you came on about the cup on 17 you played it on 17 or you
played it on Sunday did you see any of the missed putts from zander and from
yeah so i saw her a couple but the the whole location was weird it was really far and back right
and i hit the fairway but was blocked by a tree somehow and chipped it up by the green
chipped it about 15 foot short and then the put like kind of goes up and over right to
left and then down left to right.
So the hole is definitely like on a slant of some,
some sort.
And I mean,
the puts there did crazy,
crazy things.
But yeah,
I may pass.
I don't have a problem.
Is that something that rings throughout like,
you know,
the locker rooms and stuff where you guys are basically talking like,
like did the guy who put the hole and did he mess up?
Was it on a slant?
Was it too deep?
Or like,
are you guys constantly talking?
about stuff like that or or or you don't really like chirp the the way that the hole was no no certainly
certainly sometimes like pins will be in certain positions and we'll just be like why if they put it there
there's the whole of the green to put it and they put it on this mound that's like crazy golf right and
you just like have no idea and that that that gets said a lot about a few a few places we play that have
crazy greens that the greenkeepers put them on there.
Well, it's not the greenkeepers, actually.
It's the tournament officials.
They pick the pin and then the greenkeepers put them on.
But that one didn't really stand out at the time.
I wasn't thinking anything of it.
But I mean, when I look back, you know,
there is a bit of a slope there that it could catch people out.
What else do you guys chatter about?
You guys like, man, that food, you know,
when you go to the memorial, that food in that place.
So I like, what are you?
What else?
Yeah.
Memorial's great food, though.
Last week's food was unreal.
Where else is good food?
Where's bad food?
I'm trying to think where's bad food.
If you say New York, we're going to fight again.
No, no.
Food is good at Bethpage, actually.
I don't know.
I feel like in America, the food is very consistent.
It's like, it's probably,
just above average to always good.
Whereas in Europe, you know,
obviously it's a little bit more,
can be a bit more funky to put it politely.
Not a raving review of either spot, I guess, but it's okay.
Exactly.
I mean, it's tournament food, right?
Yeah, exactly.
It's just a five-star restaurant, yeah.
Just doing a job.
Where people go, like, did anybody go,
did you go out to any restaurants or anything last week?
I didn't last week.
because I wasn't really sure what the deal was,
because before we actually went to the tournament,
the PJ tour were like,
you can only eat in the hotel,
you can only get delivery,
or you can have room service.
So that's what we got told,
and it was prohibited to go out for dinner.
But then, like, three nights in,
I'm hearing guys like,
yeah, we just went down the road
and we went to this place and this place,
and I'm like, oh, great.
So, yeah, a few people,
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So you shot me a text on Friday night
about Tiger
and not make it into the tournament.
I mean,
we got screwed on the yacht tracker, man.
Yeah.
I mean,
maybe he's just here watching this week.
Maybe he wants to be a fan.
Why would he go up there?
I don't get it.
Why is his yacht going towards Hilton?
Maybe he just fancied a family vacation before he gets back to work, you know?
No, rangerous location to pick.
Like, the whole world is going to get up in arms.
Like, you can't go anywhere else.
You can go literally anywhere else in the world.
He's starting to think that's why he did it.
Like, he's not even on the yacht.
He's like, yeah, send it up there.
Let's make people start talking about it.
And I'll just see he's sitting at Jupiter like, I love that idea that he did that.
Just trolled the world.
Yeah.
I really love that he called Steiny and he's like,
Steinie,
let's,
let's play,
let's trick the public.
Let's trick up.
Probably caught,
right?
Like the maintenance fee,
probably cost him 100 grand.
He's like,
just send it up there.
I just want to see this.
He's worth it for the media.
I love the idea that Tiger's yacht is almost like,
what was it called?
Like Sputnik rushes like probe they sent that into outer space and it makes that
noise like,
ooh,
and like you just don't know where he actually is,
but you can almost like feel him coming, right?
Like all the PGA tour like felt this yacht making its way down and we're like, what's about to happen?
Like is he about to unleash fury on us or is we going to be safe this week?
And welcome for you guys.
You're safe.
I do.
I get emails at noon every day from this fucking app about it tells me where the vessel is.
How much did you pay for that thing?
$4.99.
That's crazy.
Although I pay like seven bucks for a weather app.
It like changed my life.
That's a little bit more practical probably than the, I mean, mine's.
It's literally called marine traffic.
You don't know how many yachts are out there.
And that's the only boat that you track.
That's the only one.
I mean, what other boats?
I don't know anyone else that owns a boat.
I don't know many boats.
Trent, you don't know one person that owns a boat, do you?
I don't know a single one.
Not many people from Iowa own a boat.
No.
Landlock.
He's landlocked.
I grew up in a landlocked place.
It's fine.
So how do you,
how are you thinking and feeling about,
we talked about right when you came on,
about Bryson's new look and move.
Are you going to get bulked up?
Or what are you going to do?
That's a lot of work.
That is a lot of work.
You know,
yeah,
that's not for me.
I mean,
fair play to him.
He said he was going to do it and he has done.
But,
yeah,
to maintain that is tough.
I mean,
six protein shakes,
50 PB&Js or whatever they are on the course.
It's like,
God bless that plumbing system.
My goodness.
I mean, you quite literally can't have six protein shakes
without your farts being absolutely diabolical.
He's just...
Bryson has to be, like, farting and shitting his pants,
walking down.
He's putting up thumping on that hotel room.
He has to be.
You're playing with him, like,
he's already as slowest player on door.
Now he's just farting all over the place and hitting it 80 yards past you.
Well, I played with him in Abu Dhabi, actually.
two rounds and I think he missed the,
I think he did miss the cup,
but then obviously he's put even more size on since then,
you know,
the quarantine break. I mean,
the distance he's hitting it is actually obscene to play
regular professional golf and not long drive championships.
He was averaging, he averaged 340 this week.
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
But let me tell you, he's not going to average 340 this week.
No, you can't.
there you can't no chance no chance how do you feel about this this track harbour top it's great yeah
it's one of my favorites it's uh it's yeah it's it's it's gonna be interesting to see what condition it is
um like this time of year i've never been here this time of year it's obviously always in in april um
so i don't know whether the grass is different or um whether the condition will be better um but i think
the weather should be better at least normally in april it can be pretty windy and
cold some days so hopefully it's going to be a little bit more consistent this week you had a nice
little quip about the firmness of the greens about the commentary yesterday the dumbest thing ever
they said they said the greens were firming up and they were absolutely nowhere near firming up
i mean i was off in 10-20 by the time i got to the seventh hole it must have been 12ish so it's getting
hot now this time and then I proceeded to spin my gap wedge back 15 yards from the middle of the
fairway so there's no way it was ever going to firm up so that gap wedge was still in your head
when you fired that tweet off it was for sure it was only finished only finished the 20 yard short
that's incredible um I know you like it firmer right I mean you like it firmer yeah to be fair
If that golf course was firm last week, it would have been like unplayable.
It would have been so hard.
Yeah.
Yeah, this week, I like, I like, I feel like a lot more guys can win at Harbourtown.
It's obviously like placing it around and it's, it'll be nice that it gets a little bit out, out of the shadow of the masters.
So like the field's going to be strong.
Yeah, that's true.
That's good, good point.
Good point, Riggs.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
You probably didn't get those things.
Briggs always gets a good question, good point.
We never get it.
Never once, I don't think.
Anyone's ever asked me a good question.
Maybe Armant Cittain told you like 10 times good question.
That was where it started.
That was where it started.
By the way, documentary, I know this has nothing to do if it's Patrick,
but documentary is coming out on HBO based off of that book with Tiger Woods' face
on the front.
And it's based off Armicotelian's version of it.
Pretty sick, but we can go on.
I'm out no if he's anything like the joan
frankly that's unreal
just get me all the documentaries right now
I want to know everything about every
iconic player in the history of the world like last night
was sammy sosa and mark maguire
you got the jordan documentary
i want tiger woods i'll watch anything
Lance Armstrong i haven't watched that one yet but
heard he's he's quite the piece
though
um fits i had a question
so you obviously watch jordan documentary
yes
I watched, I caught up with it last week.
It's amazing.
It gets me fired up, but I'm not like an athlete.
I'm not a professional athlete.
So when I get fired up, there's really not much I can do.
I can just like, I can just practice my putting for like five minutes and I just get tired and I go to bed.
But like when you watch that and you see Michael Jordan and like 10 episodes documenting his greatness, his full approach, his decision to like get stronger and then to optimize his body and to learn the game.
game and then rebuild his team so they're going to win and like winning at all costs,
does that like fire you up and change your approach at all?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like, you definitely want to go out and practice and get better.
There's no doubt about it.
So when I was watching it, like every episode, it was so intense.
And I thought he came across as such a great guy as well as like, you know, he always wanted
to win.
But as well as just being like a really.
really good person.
So I think that's what stood out most for me.
He worked so hard.
And the funny thing was,
it's different to ask for because, like,
it's not as easy to influence it.
But he would always say,
he gave, like, 10 examples through the whole thing
when people pissed him off.
And then all of a sudden,
he'd just go and win the game.
And it's just like, unfortunately,
you know, people piss me off,
but I can't just go out and shoot 59, you know?
We've got to find ways to live.
piss you off, man.
We're going to say that's our job.
Everyone's got to say the greens are firming up and then.
Yeah, that's it.
She's so angry.
That's it.
Then I will shoot 59, yeah.
Yeah.
That was fast.
Like,
I feel like Tiger's been documented to do that where he finds ways to, like, motivate
himself.
Yeah.
He did that with Stephen Ames.
Yeah, that was a good.
Yeah.
The funny thing about the MJ ones were some of them were made up.
He made them up in his head.
They weren't even real.
That's how psychotic he was.
He was like, I think that guy just slighted me
and the guy standing up there like, I didn't do anything.
Yeah.
Drops 55 in his face.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
He's a winner.
He's a winner.
We're going to start telling.
I'm just going to lie to you and say that people, like, other guys on tour,
text me talking mad shit about Matthew and Vince Patrick.
And just see if you start going low.
Or if you shoot like 90, I'm like, oh, shit.
Yeah, I was going to say, I'll be like, I'll show them.
81.
So what's the plan with the approach to the schedule?
I mean, obviously everything's different.
And then you guys are chartering.
There's this theory of like staying in a bubble.
There's extra testing.
How's all that affecting your choice of where to play and win?
Yeah, it's not really at all.
I'm going to play.
I'm purely playing on what works well, what flows well.
So I'm going to play these next two.
And then I've got week off.
Then I'll play the two of Memorial.
week off, then FedEx, USPGA.
So up until then it sort of flows really well, playing some and then a week off, playing
some and then a week off.
So kind of sort of sort itself out really for me and made it easy to decide what to play.
Yeah, the back-to-back at Mirfield is going to be interesting.
That would be weird.
Yeah, I'm going to be really interested because I feel like the course is just going to be
destroyed. Honestly, I feel like
the course will be destroyed. So, unless
they're going to relay the greens and the fairways,
then it could be
interesting. Yeah, with like the divvets and all that.
Because even when they did back to back, US opens
at Pioneers at number two, they have
the men and then the women the next week, and there were
huge concerns about divots and all that.
So yeah, that could be, I didn't even think about that.
I know the local, I play
at Jack Nicholas's club in
Florida the Bears, and
Jack hates
if you're in a divot in the fairway.
So the local rule there is it's ground on the repair,
so you just get free drop.
So maybe we'll play that for those two weeks
because it's his course.
So he might be like, yeah,
GUR guys, just take a free drop.
I love that rule.
That's the most thing of all time,
especially for the pros,
because you guys take such great divvits.
I can't take any grass on mine,
so I don't really affect anyone.
But like with you guys,
I mean, it's so often
when the ball rolls into the divot, it's crazy.
Yeah.
You guys hit it in the same range and then like you take a bunch of divvets and you hit a ton of
fairways and it just would make like I think it's a good rule to implement.
There's no, there shouldn't be a penalty there.
Stripe the bar down the middle and you have a bad lot.
Yeah.
The only issue with it is it's like how do you, how do you do it?
Like because if it's within like a club length, well then people could be like right
next to the green and take, you know, so it's like it's kind of good.
I don't think you can ever take relief and drop it onto the green.
so you can still be in the fairway and fudge it yeah it just it gets tricky but i do it is one of the
worst rules like it's the fairway is not there's not like you're not trying to hit it
no you should be afforded you should be rewarded you should be what reward that's it um question on
four man scramble i think you probably saw that we're undefeated undefeated yeah one from one
yeah we're sort of a force kind of out on the circuit now and so cocky we're so cocky we're so
Like I've been saying things like we're going to win a U.S. Open.
I mean.
It's just the dumbest.
I mean, why is that dumb?
We've already proven.
Beat us, right?
But it's.
Beat us.
Fitz laughed so hard at that last part.
I think he knocked his mic off.
Like,
no sound like,
his head was back,
cartoonishly laughing when he's doing it again.
Dude,
one of the islanders,
Brock Nelson texted me saying,
you know,
I respect you.
I think of you as a friend,
but when you said that you guys could win a major,
I thought about, like, deleting your phone number.
He's like,
it's the dumbest thing.
Anyone's,
he goes,
just because you guys,
he goes,
you guys shot a 68 grade on you from,
for Piner's with no pressure,
not on any sort of TV,
not in any,
in any mix.
And you,
you did it in one day,
it was like lurched in a 215 yard,
seven iron to five feet,
whatever fuck you shot.
And it's just like,
Like, it kind of opened my eyes a little bit, but my counter argument is we're 1 and 0 and beat us.
Like, prove us wrong.
The day we get proven wrong, we're wrong.
It's a good point.
It's a good point.
So what do you think?
So I'm sure you saw some of the highlights.
You know, you watched the way that the format happened and the way kids actually played lights out.
I mean, for just stepping up there and not playing that much.
Did you just have to.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
So what we did, we played a classic.
like four-man scramble, but we have to drop.
We don't get to place.
We don't get a club length.
We just have to drop.
Drop.
The ball that we pick.
Yeah.
He was very adamant about that.
Like, we almost had like a little, like, a little tiff the night before me.
Because I said like, like, it's not a modified four-man scramble versus Kevin Kisner.
It's just a four-man scramble.
So we get to do the thing you do.
Like, you get a club length.
And he's like, well, then I want a club length.
Well, no, it's not a four-man scramble while Kevin Kisner gets a club-law.
length challenge. Like, that's not what it is. We're four absolute schmose who hit hundreds and
98th on the golf course. Like, we're trying to beat you. That's why we came up with this challenge.
But you know what, though, it made sense for the drop, right? Because there were times where like,
especially at Pinehurst where you're in those sandy areas. If we were allowed a club length
from that, we just have perfect lies. So, yeah, I think it's a, it'd be a fun challenge.
Be a fun challenge, sure. We got to do it. We got to do it over the,
over the pond across the pond you got to come to my golf course in the UK so that's our
challenge to you we want to come into your your home we're going to go on foreign soil and we're
going to come in as the cocky Americans with tons of momentum who are they wear American flag
pants oh yeah you have to you all have to wear American flag pants then so it's your home
course what do you shoot at your home course like if you're really trying to go low like
Like, you know, there's no pressure.
You're out there with maybe your coach or your caddy
and you're trying to shoot as low as possible.
What are you going to shoot during that four-man scramble?
Well, the other week I had to birdie the last for 59.
So that means we're in trouble.
Brett almost just fainted.
I mean, we had a lot of benefit because Kisner didn't even know that.
Like, there were some T-boxes he stepped up to
and he, like, forgot what whole this was.
And it's 7,600 yards of Piner's number two,
one of the hardest golf courses in America.
And Riggs has been there for three years.
To be fair, to be fair, 68, four-man scramble around there.
That's actually, that's good.
That's decent.
We played great.
That's decent.
And he was calling us the one-shot wonders because three guys would hit awful shots
and then one guy would just stick one out of the fucking cloud.
So you're telling me.
The point of the scramble, right?
Let's say Fitz puts up, let's say Fitz puts up a 63.
He plays pretty fucking solid.
We got to go.
You're telling me we got to.
go 10 under?
It'll only be nine.
You're all right.
It's only nine.
Okay.
Yeah, we have to go.
How deep is this place?
What's it,
what's it played from the back?
He's six,
five of the backs.
It's not long.
Okay.
All right.
So it's a thousand yards.
Such a disadvantage for us, man.
Oh, it's brutal.
He's driver wedge to three inches,
tap in every single hole.
We're blading them over the three.
And we're going to go all the way to cross the pond for this.
Man.
I better go see the queen or something to make my trip worth it.
We got to go to courses where birdies are tough.
If we go to tough, I know a few of them as well.
We can go one of them as well.
Fuck.
Yeah, I do think harder courses help us.
But I also like, we are kind of, like, we did a relative home game, I would say.
So we kind of are due for an away game.
I don't know that we can say no.
There you go.
In the Fitz's.
Yeah, there you go.
Surely Bostle will fund that trip.
Yeah, no problem.
Hey, we're going to go to a cross-continental,
or wherever you're going to call that type of flight,
so that we can get absolutely dismantled by Matt Fitzpatrick,
and he's going to probably beat me up afterwards
because I said I could beat him up.
And then his catty, who's probably in the fucking,
what's that Irish show that we all like?
picky blinders.
Pinky blinders.
Your fucking catty straight out of peeky blinders.
He's going to shank me in the neck because we even,
thought about trying to beat you in a four-man scramble.
Yeah, sign the check,
Barstool.
Thanks.
Cross Continental.
Cross Continental.
Was that Continental breakfast?
Jesus, crazy.
Eggs Benedict and you?
That would be so much fun.
You got to do it, though.
That would be so much fun.
Eggs.
Ben, is one of my favorite.
Cross Continental may be the worst thing I've ever said.
You know what's great about Eggs Benedict is
it's not only is an adult.
delicious meal, but every time if you're out to breakfast with a bunch of people and you order
eggs Benedict, someone will say, ooh, good choice. Yes. Yeah. Yep. It means you have
the best. You have class and you also like have experience, right, with that order. Yeah.
You're not just saying, can I have like scrambled eggs? You're like, I want eggs, but this is the way I
want you to do them. Yeah. A little bit of class touched on it. Right. Like that wasn't a child
that just pointed at something he knew on the menu and took it. That man like understands the menu,
digested it and then went with a good order. You go to places where there's not necessarily
pictures of the food on the menu.
Trent's just thinking of Denny's right now.
Bro, I love Denny's.
And I love Waffle House, too.
I'm a huge Waffle House, man.
Have you ever had Waffle House, Fitz?
I have, yeah, many times.
It's an American dream right there.
It is.
What, do you guys have anything similar over there?
No, no such thing.
We don't, we, like, McDonald's is probably the
closest we have.
Do you guys have, like, buffets or,
over there?
Yeah, we do.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that's shit.
Okay.
I always thought that was like an American, like, oh, we're so fat.
We, like, have unlimited food.
You know, I wish that was a very American.
We'd put it out in troughs.
Yeah.
As much as I can.
Bro, there's this comedian, and he passed away, actually.
He's this fat, and I can't believe I'm forgetting his name.
I almost want to look it up because it's this good of a joke.
But he's a famous old-time comedian, and he tells this joke about,
him at the buffet and he's just like these people like look at me because he goes I go up there
and they're like you again like are you kidding me and the way he does this joke you guys talk
I'm just going to say the name is it Ralphie Mae I don't know I have to look it up
okay but I am glad I'm glad you said that because I did I've been to England and I did not
love the food I didn't think it was phenomenal John Panetti Chinese he goes to a Chinese
buffet. It's one of the funniest jokes of all time.
He just can't believe how many times he goes up there.
And he's like, if you give me the option to stay here all day, I will.
Like, I'm just going to keep eating everything you have here.
All right, Fitz. I imagine you have better things to do.
Oh, 100% event.
I go go try some three woods.
You're going to need that puppy out there.
I am giving my one just keeps going right.
Fitz, have you ever played this golf game that I'm trying to build a golf course on?
Yeah, you can, Frankie, you can go practice at my course. I built my course.
You what?
I built my course on the game. I had that much free time in quarantine.
Wait a minute. So you can't go, yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yeah.
So what process did you? Because I'm building Knives Creek Golf Club right now.
It's prestigious. It's got class, but it's also fun. And I'm only one hole deep right now.
So, dude, it's impossible. How did you build that?
That was such a maniacal app.
Did you watch a ton of YouTube videos or did you just like...
No, I just did it myself, but I just used Google Maps on like,
based on my open course, obviously.
But you can also like copy paste loads of bushes and shit to make it a little easier.
Yeah, I've seen, so like I've been talking to a ton of people like that.
I mean, everyone wants me to build this thing, all these architects.
And like the better ways to do it on PC, apparently you can like just move all those
but I'm like I'm on a police station.
I'm planting trees one at a time.
It's insane.
It's fucking crazy.
Do like five and then copy plates and do five, you know, and do it like that.
The biggest thing for me is like making it look.
So like I have the look.
It's just making it look like real.
Like where is there supposed to be high grass around like creating?
Like where is it supposed to do like the slopes and shit like that too?
You need to add those in.
So what's the home course?
I want to play it.
My home course.
called Hallamshire Golf Club.
But I think there's two of them, and I think it might be like,
I think my first effort was Hallamshire G.C.,
but the better one is Hallamshire Golf Club.
I will be playing it within the next hour.
There will be a lot of people playing that.
I want to hear your feedback.
I want to hear your feedback.
Okay.
I want to play out for our match, too.
Do you have, and then my last question is,
I want to ask this to anyone that we have on here,
do you have a request as to what one of the holes should be?
Like,
What's your favorite golf hole?
When you step up to a hole, what should it look like?
Any one of these holes at Harbourtown or the 7th, Augusta.
Okay.
Dead straight, tight as anything.
Lots of tall trees.
Beautiful.
There you go.
Beautiful.
Let's go dial in that three wood there, Fitz.
Right.
Thanks, buddy.
See you, bro.
See you, Fitz.
Thanks, mate.
Cheers.
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Wow.
He built the course.
That's crazy.
What a drop that was.
I'm going to ask that.
That's crazy.
I haven't played a video game in 10 years.
I'm a professional golfer.
But he was like, no, no, I built my own course.
someone just texted me that there's all these golfers you can play with in that new PGA 2K21 thing and Kiz is just one of them.
Yeah, did you see the graphic.
Can you beat Kiz?
Oh, yeah, I did say it.
But I also heard like a rumor that you may not be out to play with these guys, but now it's like I saw this article that says that it's playable.
The complete list of playable PGA tour 2K21 players.
I mean, if they don't make Bryson, Bryson's on the list.
If they don't make Bryson look like the Incredible Hulk, then they completely ruin the game.
I saw a conspiracy theory out there that 2K tweeted out the KIS won on purpose so that we would jump all over it.
I don't think that that tweet hadn't been up for 45 seconds when I quote tweeted it and boom roasted Kevin Kisner.
So maybe they're on to something.
You see like you see how cocky I've been getting with the four-man scramble?
So like Brock just texted me.
He's like, you guys should replace Kevin Kisner in the PGA 2K game.
Because I mean, we are better than him in one round.
Like you we are undefeated against the PGA tour pro.
That's not an opinion, right?
No, the only evidence that we have is that we are better than kids.
We've never once shown that we can't compete or we can't win.
Right.
Never.
No one knows, like, what if that was our bad round is my point, right?
There's not enough data.
What if we were supposed to go even lower?
All I know is that Lurch said that he made a nine, right, to shoot a 78.
Yeah.
And if you play like that on a short course, like, and Riggs shoots a 78 or 79, we are going to be lights out.
I couldn't agree more.
I don't think this is what Kevin Chappell, I was texting Chapley, but I like, hey, we're coming for your ass.
We're fucking really hot on the circuit right now.
Watch out.
And he was like, if you come play, like, our home course will kill you, we make a bunch of birdies.
And I was like, well, then so will we.
Like, this is, we made, we shot 68 at.
an impossible golf course.
Like give us a normal golf course
and a four-man scramble,
we're gonna go out
and make a bunch of birdies too.
Like that's just,
we played the same golf course
that Kevin Kisner played
and just beat him.
So like if he,
if he's shooting 63 of that course,
guess what?
So are we?
I think those pros
outside of like,
whatever,
their strikes zone
of like 15 to 20 feet,
probably than any other course
in the world at Pinehurst number two.
So like if you get to a shorter course,
they're going to have,
much like so many more looks for birdie than Kisner did and that's the thing is that we don't
tag it inside that 15 20 foot mart much but we do have the ability to grind out cars we have a putter
two for 59 fits like we can't touch that oh 59 we're smoke 59 we got no shot I think 64 I think if
we went out to a fucking competitive scramble against a pro with cameras and the whole the hype and
stuff and we put up like a 64, I think is like incredibly impressive.
So if we lose to that, then we just lose.
If it fits shoots a 63, we like, yeah, we lost.
Okay.
We were talking about our rounds real quick.
Lurch, by the way, you having a, you made a nine on the last hole and shot 78.
What?
How's that fun?
So it was a great, we had a great fun.
We had great fun.
It was cons, my buddy, D.I. and I.
And then.
Anyways, we're playing, had a few drinks, got to the 18th, was feeling good.
I was leaking oil a little bit through 15, 16, 17, 18, cold top to drive to the right.
Then stepped up, I was like, oh, just make it up with my three wood and lace it because the ball was sitting up in the rough.
I proceeded to hit my three wood right under the golf ball, made a divot.
The ball didn't go anywhere, but just dropped into the divot that I had to take pitching wedge, pitching wedge again into the sand trap, and then four puck.
It was a mess to finish up.
We're putted.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it was a tough hole.
But yeah, shot an eye.
So I got to give a shout out to our buddy, Link's Jim's, John Cavalier, who was texting
about his game.
And he texted me the other day that he shot 88 with a 20 on the 18th hole.
What?
What?
He made a 20 on the 18th hole.
Come on, links, gems.
Don't get dramatic.
Yeah.
Like pick up the ball.
I'm committed to do something bad.
I mean, also it's like, I don't even believe you.
Unless the, like, the hole was literally impossible.
How do you make a 20?
Yeah.
Yeah, like, and come from me, how do you make a 20?
Also, like, that's just so many.
Like, I can't even.
He told me that he was in a tight match.
And the guy that he was playing with was also blowing up on this hole.
And that's why he kept playing.
And then at some point was like, well, like, I've come this far.
I want to see what I'm actually going to make.
on this hole and the guy won the hole with a nine.
Lings Jeff made a 20.
Did he get mugged during the head?
Like what happened?
He laid it all out, but I don't have it with me right now.
He's dealing like our text, but he laid it out.
He said he got, he said that he hit it into a fairway bunker and that he, it was like a
lip and he kept trying to basically hit like a long iron or something out of this fairway
bunker and just kept hitting the lip and going back into the bunker.
That's essentially why it added up to one.
but my point was that that's not the first time that I've heard of some bad finishes lately
and then I would like to say that I pulled a move and I'm not sure I want to hear your guys thoughts on
but I've tweeted this out the other day like one of my huge I've obviously been here forever
Pioneers number two is a really hard golf course I'm getting inside two weeks now before we're out of here we're going to go
Chicago for barstool classic and so one of my huge goals before I leave is to break 80 from the blue T's of
Pioneers number two which are about 7,000 yards the other day I had a horrible front nine
and then I'm just caught fire on the bag nine,
get to the 18th T.
It's 9 p.m.
And I'm at 7 over par.
So if I make par in the 18th hole,
I shoot 79 and I've accomplished my goal.
Well, I hit my T shot.
I go up, I'm looking.
It's not in the fairway.
And I can't see anything because it's so dark
in the waste areas,
but I'm looking, looking, look, and can't find it.
So I decide, I look forever,
which is obviously like once you're over three minutes,
technically it's a thing,
but when you're playing by yourself, who gives a fuck?
So I couldn't find it.
So I said, fuck it.
I'm going to come back out in the morning and try to find it.
Went back out in the morning, found it, ended up making a bogey and shooting 80.
Do you think that's like a crazy move to go back out and try to finish the route?
Isn't that a crazy move to go back?
I don't think so.
No.
I think that's fine.
It's one of your goals so you want to get it done.
It's like that, I understand.
There's no way we're not going to say it's not crazy to go out and like finish.
That's like that's a little crazy.
but like there's a lot of stuff that goes into it you've been trying to do it you played all night
you played until 9 p.m you knew where the ball was you couldn't find it also not many people
have like the opportunity to go back out to the same course the next day look for the ball before
anyone tees off that whole thing so in that in itself it is crazy because that situation's insane
yeah I agree with that I agree with that like in a normal situation who the fuck would do that
but I was like well it's like a couple minute trip I can just come back out in the
morning people tee off of the first hole so it'll take them hours to get to the 18th hole so it'll
just be open until like 10 a.m. So I might as well just go fucking play the hole. So that's what I did
made probe shot 80. So to kind of put a bow on trying to finish out rounds and post good scores,
sounds like Lurch is playing great, which is huge. Sounds like Frankie, you've been playing pretty
well lately. I'm playing well. I think our four-man scrimmon. Trent hasn't been out of his apartment
in a month again since I was kidding. But I think our four-man scramble. I think we're a legitimate
at force. I don't know. I want to get why we wouldn't win the next match. I want another one. I want
more data, like Frankie's saying, like we need more data because right now we're riding high and I love
it. But I would love to just play another one just to see. I just want to see what it's like again.
Well, like, Casey's point about playing the Islanders before man scramble, that's where we lose.
Like, if we just play against better golfers in a four-man scramble, we're going to lose.
So I wouldn't go down that road too far. I would stick to the Scramble versus pro.
Right, because I got, I may have had a cold pop of me.
over the weekend and I was like, well, like I told the Islanders
that we're just going to destroy them in the scramble.
And they said, but all four of us are better than all four of you.
That's right.
That's where we lose.
So we can't do those.
So I said, well, we're all so sick, I said.
And I think I was, I was like, well, we're sicking up because we're one and O.
And they're like, you're fucking done.
But yeah, like Cal Clutterbuck's a scratch, right?
Like, Brocks of five, Taves is a six.
And then, like, they're going to round it out with like, Everly, who's a
sick. So it's like who
you compare it with me and Trent? Like,
at least you enlarge can get up there.
Like, Clutterbuck could have a bad day. But then
on average, they're going to shoot
way below what we're going to
choose. Because of course. We've got to be better
negotiators. We can't let them, right? Like,
we got to play against guys. Like, yeah,
we're going to play the Islanders, but like, we've got
to find a way to do it on a date when like
Clutterbuck can't make it. And you know what I'm
saying? Correct.
That's our strategy. But yeah, so
yeah, we've been playing good golf. I've just
been playing a lot more, so I just feel like certain swings are getting a lot more consistent.
Like, I'm taking, today I played Rockville again. And I'm just getting so much more, like,
smarter, which probably isn't the right way to say that. So why am I getting more smarter,
more smarter? Cross continental. I'm getting much smarter. Is that a smarter? It's
smarter and on a word? Much smarter. I'm getting much smarter off the T's where I know the course
so much more now where like I'm, I'm maybe pulling driver three or four times on entire
golf the entire golf course.
Just placing
three woods and hybrids off T's because I figure
why the fuck am I hitting a drive
275, 280, just to have an 80-yard
bladed wedge over a green when I can hit
a hybrid that's going to go 220,
2.30, and I'm going to leave myself with a nice
eight iron or a nine iron
and it's going to be a perfect height and I'm going to
get on the ground, I'm a two-putt. So I'm doing that a lot
more. Today I had a huge blow up on the first
couple holes, but then I pard
like eight out of my next nine holes. I was
just playing good golf.
Like six-foot birdie puts, missing, obviously all of them, didn't make one birdie.
But it's just, like, fun to actually play the course with that kind of style.
And, like, you know that if you step up to a tee, it's not going to go all over the place.
When I take a driver and I'm trying to put it over trees on a dog leg left, who am I?
Like, what am I trying to do?
What am I, Phil Mickelson blasting it, like, in that match where he's like, I'm about to hit a fucking bomb to the back of the screen?
No, I'm Frankie Borelli.
I can barely put the club on the ball.
dude this one this one guy is like he must be a four play fan he was one of the one of the groundskeepers
pulled up behind me and he had to stop because he knew i had a horrendous wed shot like coming up
it was i was in a bunker and my feet were no i was outside of a bunker but my feet were in the
bunker it was a baseball type swing and i have this fucking butter knife in my hand and he's just
looking at me like oh no like what are you going to do i think he made a comment like you're going to blink
before you're swing on this one or something like that and i'm
like, what do I do here? I should have putt it. And he watched me. I know he had his phone out.
There's a video of this somewhere on this fucking guy's phone. And I just like baby it and I hit it
twice. Like it, I make contact and then I make contact again and it goes sideways into the bunker.
And he just made this noise like, oh God. And drove away. It's just like, there's your show,
you asshole. There's the show. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks for stopping by. We'll see you next week.
Come on.
fuck it is amazing how much playing a course and feeling comfortable at a golf course
makes you play better it goes such a long way uh into score and that's also a reason like you get
a lot of guys who are cool be like a three handicapped at their home course and they don't travel
well like you ever you met those and it's like no he can shoot bucking 75 all day at you know
his home trap you get him on another course and it's just like can't break 80 so you get that
type of shit all the time too, but it does matter. And that's why, I mean, you've seen,
you've seen Tiger Woods that like four or five different venues is won eight times. And then at
Riviera, like, he's never won. So it's like you get certain, it's just, that's just how it is
in golf, mental confidence and all that is a fucking huge factor. Speaking of mental confidence,
Jordan Spieth had a hell of a run. At one point was leading the tournament, was the solo leader of the
tournament on Saturday afternoon, ended up finishing four, I think four shots back, tied for 10th place.
which is not bad.
He had a 68, 71 on the weekend.
71 final round is not great after going 65, 65.
But for a guy who's been talked about a ton,
who it's been documented,
he hasn't won a tournament since the 2017 British Open.
And he was Mr. Speath.
He was all over the fucking place.
And then he came out, first tournament in three months,
had a great showing,
finished just four shots back and had a chance to win it.
Very good to see Speeds back.
Love y'all stuff.
Rollercoaster.
at times. I mean, he was starting to make those 20-30-footers again. I think Riggs's friend,
Nick Fowledo, started calling it the Spee's zone. I don't know if that's a new thing or an old
thing, but it was the first time I'd heard it. He was making those putts, but then he would,
he had four-putt or he'd miss these short-putts, and it was, I feel like at times it's got to be
the most frustrating thing in the world to be Jordan Spee, you know? You've got all this
town in the world, you've proven it before, and then you sort of lost it, but then you
sort of get it back, but then you lose it again. I don't know. If I was him, I'd be, I'd be
crawling up a wall.
Yeah, left.
It's got to be frustrating.
Frankie literally, I mean, you said Crawford Wall and Frankie just left, left the room,
so I don't really know what he's doing.
Now he's, is he looking for something?
I don't know.
You're all right, Frankie?
My laptop was on 1%.
My laptop was on 1%.
I just saved the shit out of it.
Yeah, Jordan Spee was all over the place.
No, I'm not a hero.
I don't want that labeled.
I'm just a guy who sits on a couch and just talks about golf.
Ed's Pizza.
But what I want to say is that Jordan Spieth was fun to watch this week.
And I also love how much people know how much he's in his own head.
Every single time now you watch someone talk about him or any of the analysts are like,
man, it's fun to watch him back and grind it on those putting greens before the rounds
and after the rounds.
He's really giving it to himself.
It's like, boy, he's really let people know how much of a disaster is in his brain during these
these rounds because he's just, he wears it on his sleeve.
boy, it's crazy.
He does.
And it's, it's got to compound the issue, right?
Like the fact that everybody knows that you're going through sort of a mental headcase thing for a couple of years makes you the mental headcase a little bit.
And that's obviously, like, I don't want to be insensitive with like mental headcase.
But like there's some players who are just cool comp collected all the time.
Ricky Zander, you know, show the emotion, kids.
And then you've got Jordan who's clearly like jittery and like all that.
So there's a lot going on in there.
and when everybody knows there's a lot going on in there,
it makes even more go on in there.
I felt like this was an important tournament for Speed, though,
just to be back in the mix, get his name back in there.
Everyone had a really long layoff, and it may have helped him.
I know they talked about that during the broadcast,
that some guys benefited from it more than others.
Like John Ron was on fire before, and then he stops.
Like Roar was on fire, and then they stopped.
A guy like Spieth, who wasn't playing as well,
is able to catch up, I guess, right?
With you have all that time off and get to work out on things
and putting. So, you know, it was kind of a, I don't want to know what I want to say a milestone
type golf tournament for him. But speaking of the word milestone, did you guys know that the word
milestone? Yeah, milestone, I knew you were. I was like, wait, I was like,
first of all, it was way too strong of a word, like speed having a milestone tournament by
not winning and sort of putting 10. Like, come on. Yeah. So the word milestone actually comes from
the Romans. When they'd walk from place to
place. They wanted to know exactly how far
they placed. So they would actually
leave a stone
for about each mile
that they walked. And they'd
drop it on the ground. They would engrave
what mile it was. So that
would be called a milestone.
You got to a certain place. The stone
was down in the ground. That is a
mile stone that the Romans
put in. It also is how we have like
the interstate markers, right? Like we like
mark down each mile. It like helped the whole
system of knowing how far you go.
I don't hit that fact.
I believe that fact.
Also,
there's sometimes like a stone to, like, guide you on the trail.
Correct.
I will throw the endorsement behind that one.
Milestone.
I was also going to a lot.
We haven't come that far.
Like you were saying, Frankie, like, we still basically have milestones all over the highway.
Every mile, there's a mile marker.
We just, we haven't, you know, advanced that far.
Correct.
That's a good one.
That is a good one.
Because you say these words, oh, it's a milestone thing.
It's like, you know, I'm thinking about a dude in sandals walking down a fucking desert
near fucking in like a Roman Empire
just putting down stones
trying to get somewhere
and see how the hell he's gonna get home.
I love how every time we do
with these like Frankie Facts or whatever,
you come back to that same point
of being like, you know,
because you say these things,
but we don't know why we're saying it.
Like we don't get it.
Like it's cool.
It's a initial bit.
Yeah.
It's a description of the Frankie Fact
why they exist every time.
I like it.
You're constantly.
Why you guys like it is
I tell you why you like it.
Also, shout out to Kisner, T-29.
I love that guy, man.
He's never not Kevin Kisner.
It's crazy.
I couldn't believe that when I saw it.
I saw it late, and I was going through the standings
just to look at just like the money winners.
I always find that interesting.
And I saw it T-29, Kevin Kisner.
Never change.
What I find about the money that's so interesting?
Just the fact that they make so much each weekend.
Just the huge amounts.
I know.
I like working at that, too.
I don't even have to really, like, on their level,
you did well, but you didn't do great, right?
But they still make so much money.
Kizner made $51,000 at T-209.
Burger took home 1.3.
I saw Fitz got like $42,000 for like 30-something.
I don't know if it's a personal question to ask these guys,
but I want to know what makes it worth it.
Like that's 51,000 is obviously making it worth it.
But like where's the threshold?
I just making the cut, I think, is worth it.
I don't know because like that,
Kiz has done the breakdown before of like,
you know, if he makes 50, right,
well, 25% or so is gone because of taxes.
Then he's got to like give Dewey gets like 10%.
So now you're down to what, 2250.
Then he's got like a swing coach.
He's got expenses for like buying his flights and all that.
So now he's down and like what I don't know exactly what he'd be down to,
but it's like closer to like 15,000 that he actually takes home.
Right.
Because to me, to us, to the normal person, we're thinking, because I don't have a coach,
I don't have a caddy, I don't have any of that.
I just, 51,000 is a clean 51,000 that goes right into my bank account.
It's just like, that's not how it works.
No, that's not how it works at all.
So he has, like, said, he's, I don't, like, I'm trying to think what that number,
it's obviously different for everybody.
But yeah, I don't know.
I think if it's like in the 30s, you're probably like, that wasn't, that wasn't worth it.
That'd be my guess.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I just got tagged in an Instagram video, where,
It's like, are you blading chips?
And the guy blades the first one.
The second one, he puts a T down in front of the ball, down in the ground,
and then just, like, says, like, hit the T with the ball behind it.
And he perfectly takes, like, he perfectly hits this ball.
And obviously, he's a pro.
But I love that drill.
And this is just the swing training video that you saw.
So you got basically, yeah.
I mean, there might be a million of those that go out of day.
I know.
but I like this.
I get a million of them,
but I like this one the most.
Look at that.
You actually have a target.
Everyone like draws a,
like Bryson drew a fake line.
And I'm showing you guys it now,
but like you basically just attack that tea.
And the tea even comes up a little bit
when you make contact with it.
And the ball is perfectly lofted.
I don't hit ball first with my wedge.
I just don't.
Try it.
Let us know how it goes.
I want to let the people know
a little update on Knives Creek.
I've got a ton.
of messages about it this weekend.
I mean a ton.
And, you know, architects are reaching out,
people that want to give me input on how to do it.
It's going to take a lot of time.
So that guy,
Crazy Canuck, he's got that YouTube page.
He even reached out to me.
He's like, bro, like, I can help you with this.
I can be like your architectural guidance guy.
How do you want to, do you want to stream it?
Do you want me to come on with you and teach you how to do it?
I don't know what the best way to do it is because I've already built,
I built four holes of one, and it came out horrible.
And I scratched it.
and I'm redoing it because it's got to be good.
We want to have like tournaments on it.
We want it to be good.
It's my first baby.
And you can't build Rome, which was the baby of milestones.
They didn't build Rome in one day.
It took a lot of milestones to get out to those places to build it.
So for me, I want to take my time.
I don't know what the best way to do it is.
Do I do the whole thing myself?
Or do I have a guy like Crazy Canuck build it,
which he can get it done within a fucking month, like a couple weeks.
because he's sick.
And he does it on the PC.
So like they said,
they can send it to different people
and they can do it as a team.
Like he does whole one,
two, three,
whatever.
And I can just do the layout
and go on Twitch with them
and make sure that,
like basically he's just the robot
that's fucking building it
and I have the idea.
Or do I physically build this thing
with my hands?
Because, bro,
it's really,
really hard.
Well,
if it's that hard
and it's going to take that much time
and you want it to happen in a timely manner, which we do because people are jacked up about it,
you might have to outsource it to Crazy Canuck, and you are just the puppet master.
Yeah, what do we got to just, can we just plug Crazy Canuck on our Instagram or something,
like if he does it?
Yeah, he says, I think he's got a YouTube page, and it's actually really fascinating for anyone
that wants to fucking build their own thing.
He's got great videos on there.
But like, I think he would just, I think he wants to be in the mix, right?
But I don't, I think I want to test him being my advisory, right?
Like maybe he comes on as like a split screen thing and he's like, no, no, no, you don't put the tree there.
This is how you lift it.
And maybe I learn, right?
Like, I'm not dumb.
I should be able to learn a little bit.
It's not like he's the only person in the world that can build this golf course.
I should be able to build a golf course, right?
If I just learn how to do it.
You should be able to relay the information he has in his noggin.
I will say my first whole, so I first had like this boreal.
I don't even know if that's the term, but it was New York style, all green trees, pine trees,
maple trees, all this bullshit.
And I've now switched to an autumn.
theme where all the trees are different colors.
I'm talking, when you're on this first tee, you got reds, yellows, greens, all lining the
fairway.
It's a fucking beauty.
It's a masterpiece.
But there's little things like the creek that goes through the first tea.
It comes out of nowhere.
There's no continuity.
There's no realism.
Like this creek just shows up and it's got jagged edges.
It's a hard you across the fairway.
When you watch Crazy Canuck, he's got motherfucking steam coming out of these things.
Crazy Canuck has steam coming off of his creeks with like frogs leaping on to fucking lily pads and shit.
So for me, I need to figure out how to get to that level.
Bro, you can maneuver the sun to where you want it in the world as opposed to height
and how much haze is going to come across the course.
I'm talking, you can have your hand into every little part of this golf.
Yeah.
I'm watching it's a video game of Whole One and him do it on.
this crazy Kinnock channel.
He's incredible.
He's an artist.
Yeah, I guess it is, it could be a mix of both.
Like him trying to teach you would be very funny on streams.
And maybe he does some parts of the golf course.
I don't know, but I want to, I just want to see a finished product of it.
I want to play the creek.
I want to play Knives Creek.
I want to have the logo on my golf bag.
I want to have a hoodie.
I want the whole fucking deal.
The first hole is such a, you.
want to drive it because it's so high, so elevated, and it's a beautiful rolling first fairway,
but I put the creek in a position in which you cannot use driver. It's so stupid. You have to go
three wood. You can't get it over the creek with a driver. You can't. So you have to go three wood.
It's like such a mind fuck. You're like, oh, look at this first tee. Let's go, baby. Crush it.
It's 85 feet in the air. It's a fucking mountain. And then you have to just rip like three wood or maybe even
iron off the first day.
Just not you.
And I don't know how to fix it.
So like that's the thing.
I made the creek too far.
And I can't just, you don't just edit.
When you dig into the ground, it's over.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, it's done.
Oh, yeah.
No, you got to lift the ground back up.
And now when I try and lift the ground back up and just a little part, it comes up like
a mountain inside the river.
It's crazy.
Boy, boy.
Oh, all right.
You stick a pin in the ground in the middle of the trees and the
pins are sideways and you have to figure out how to get it to be flat.
It's like, are you kidding me?
And then when you go, oh, you could play the hole.
Like, it's like, oh, play the hole as it is right now.
And you try and go on those greens without flattening them out.
And the fucking those little beads that show you the break put up and it just goes off the green.
Oh, man.
It's fun shit.
That's like, yeah, like Rick's just said, there's your Knives Creek update.
Things are going really well.
I'm going to grind at it.
Listen, I want it to happen.
And you can play on a simulator.
That's a fact.
Awesome, boys.
We are, we're out of here.
Big thanks to Fitz.
Big thanks to all of our listeners.
We'll be back on Thursday.
It's Harbottown Week.
Lurch has to go slings of software.
Right.
It's hard.
Sell it, sell it, sell it.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
