Fore Play - Maury? Shack? Jerseys? featuring Matt Stell

Episode Date: October 22, 2020

A lot happening. We’re joined by 6’7 country star Matt Stell (47:57) to talk college aliases, golfing with other stars, zoom songwriting & much more. In headlines, our “old” friend Geoff Shackelford couldn’t figure out his zoom for a question with Tiger, Maury dragged Riggs’ swing, several From The Galleries, can adults wear jerseys to games, and a whole lot more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is episode 301. We have a lot to talk about, actually. I got some topics that I'm quite excited about. We're finally going to get to the, from the galleries. We've got Matt Stel, who is a country musician. We haven't spoken to him yet.

Don't know a ton about him. He's actually got a fascinating story. So excited to hear some things and a big golf guy from him. So stay tuned, listen to that. We got some Jeff Shackaford for this pop back up. Old Man Golf Media. Mori, fucking Mori, is in our timeline today. So there's a lot to get to.

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You're just going to keep drinking them. Trust me. I know everybody's always looking for new. too. Everybody likes to go up and order just the stale, same old drink that you always drink. You don't get excited about it. Not the situation. You make a nice Moscow on a mule. You can do all kinds of good stuff. So big thanks to Owens. I got, you know, we did a little memory lane situation at the beginning of last show that people loved. It was actually very fun to do. It was a little therapeutic, and it was sort of very reflective to see how far we've come and how we got there.

And I got a great email from Tyler, one of our listeners who says, congrats on the 300th episode. I remember listening to the first podcast on my way to ask my future father-in-law if I could marry his daughter. It took some of the nerves away listening to you and Trent, glad to still be listening today. And I followed it up and said, well, I mean, are you like still married now? And he was like, yes, yes, yes, very happily married.

Everything worked out great. So he's been listening to every show. And he said, we took the nerves off a little bit. So shout out to Tyler. That would have been incredible if he was like, well, it was going well. and then Frankie and Lurch joined the podcast. Honestly, things couldn't have gone worse. I mean, Frankie's voice screaming made us drive off the road,

and then we got a ticket, and then the finances. She took half my money. She took half my money. And the finances, dot, dot, dot is a great time. And then the finances. That's just what, like, a bunch of idiots called, like, complicated stuff. We just say finances. Exactly.

Just, what happened? The finances. I wrote, like, an employer. I wrote like an important email today, very lurch-like. I wrote like an email to a company and like I wrote et cetera. And that felt really cool. I was like blah, da, da, da, et cetera, et cetera. I said et cetera a lot.

Did you put a period after it? Yeah. What's weird is when you finish like a clause with et cetera, period, then comma. So ETC period comma. Do you finish a sentence with et cetera? Yeah. So do you put two dots there? I don't think so because then it's almost

it could be interpreted as like and something's coming up next but it's really not. Also, big thanks, a big shout to Jake Bass to Brendan Jones, who are the guys behind the scenes. They make us sound good, look as good as we possibly can and crank out all the stuff

that you guys see and that you guys hear. So big thanks to those guys, as always. It's Thursday. The show has come out this Thursday. Tiger Woods is playing golf. Adam Scott's not playing golf due test positive for COVID-19. But the point is, since it's Thursday at noon, our green and yellow-themed golf line,

we're going to call it, is now available at stored up varsalsport.com. It's a fire. It's absolutely fire stuff. Like usually we call it our spring themed, but it's just not the spring. And then if we call it fall themes, like that's not correct.

It's not fall colors. So it's just green and yellow themed stuff. That's what we're going to call it. And Frankie's got the quarter zip on from Peter Milar. I got one of these rope hats on. We're big rope hat guys. I don't know if we quite cold rope hats off. It's amazing how good you look in that rope hat rigs

and how not great Frankie looked in it the other day. I think he's going to get it right now. He just doesn't have the head for it. No, yeah. What do you mean? No. It's just a no for you. What do you mean?

No. Are you supposed to bend them? I'm not really a Ropat guy either. Oh, shit, I'm getting text messages now. Go on. I was thinking about going for a run last night. I was like, maybe I know I'm not cool enough, but maybe I'll do the backwards rope hat run look.

And I think tonight I'm going to give that a shot. We'll see how it goes, but it might go wrong. I don't think I look terrible. My head's too big for your standard hat. That's why I go Viser to let it all escape. Yeah, and your head's almost. too small, Frankie. Yeah.

Really? Like, you look great in the Travis Matthews hats, but these rope hats are not. I'm kind of bending it to my size there. You don't think this looks better? It's getting better. It looks like a helmet or something on it. What if I tighten it up here, right? Like, you don't think, no?

I don't think your head goes to the top of the hat. Maybe tighten the head. It just doesn't. I've got a feminine forehead. Is that it? Right. Just feel like you could push down a couple inches of the hat and before you got to your head.

Right. Riggs is just fits. Riggs is just fits. Riggs looks great. Thank you. That's very nice. I sent one of these to Brock Nelson, an American hero, and he's going to rock the shit out of it. Because he rocks the racets like you wouldn't believe. Something about these athletes, man, they can just make stuff look better than us,

and hence why I wore that outfit to the wedding and it was a huge miss. This is a big hockey guy hat, I think, the rope hats. Huge. Roe pads are going through the hockey world, like the mumps. The mumps. Remember when Cindy Crosby got the mumps, it was the most outrageous photo of all time. He was sitting there like, yeah, I think I can play tonight. It was just like fucking all the way out here.

They're like, do you have a gobb stopper in your mouth or something? It looked like it had a tumor in his head. Jawbreaker. You guys ever eat a jawbreaker? Oh, yeah, the big round. You got to suck on it for three years. You don't suck out. You lick it.

And then your tongue becomes so raw and so fucked. because you've been licking to change the colors. Dude, those jawbreakers, the big ones I'm talking about. You got one maybe for your birthday. Some like crazy aunt or uncle would give you a jawbreaker, and you're like, ah, it's a ball of sugar, and you lick it. Are you saying you're holding it like an apple? And then you're holding it.

Yeah, dude, it's a fucking baseball of sugar. Is this thing like a giant, jolly rancher, basically? Are you guys don't know what this is? I know what it is, but I'm as big as a baseball. They were like the size of like maybe a quarter in diameter. And you'd throw that thing in there, maybe a little bigger. And like you'd like lick on it, suck on it. But then it was still too big.

And you'd go for the jawbreak. And it would just, it would be impossible to get through. But you just work at it. Mega bruiser, mega bruiser giant jawbreaker. These things are like fucking, they're like, they're like pool balls. And you just got. Yeah.

Oh, my God. You just got to lick it and then it becomes a brillo pad your tongue. You can't, you're a big, Mommy, I can't, I can't drink the water anymore. You're literally, you can't, you can't believe what you just did to your body, but you're also so hyped up. And then there's a little fucking gumball in the middle. That's the prize.

Dude, those things are huge. I just took a look at that. That's massive. The biggest things ever. Imagine a child trying to like eliminate that thing with just like, you put it in a cup. And it's a month process. You just keep going.

Yeah, see, we never had those. We got the smaller ones that you could pop in your mouth. Then you would suck on it and suck on and suck on. We never got one the size of a boulder that we had to carry around with us. And look at the progress I've made on my jawbreaker. That's crazy. I can see Mr. Borrelli just like, all right, Frank Jr., just shut up. Here's your giant little job.

Yeah, here you go. I'm going to take this hat off. And that doesn't mean you guys shouldn't buy it. It's just I can't really rock it. No, the gear is sick, and it looks awesome on most people. Frankie, you can't rock that hat. I'm going to wear this to a goddamn golf course and no one's going to say a word. My dad did that to me one time, though.

He was trying to, we got to a hotel really late. And I was like a little kid. He threw me up on like the concierge desk. And I was just like blabbering away and wouldn't shut up. And all he wanted to do was book the hotel. And so he literally took like one of the apples from the bowl of apples and just shoved it in my mouth so I couldn't talk. And then he went on booked in the hotel and off we went.

Kids are the worst. Yeah, they are. Kids are the work. It is fun. We're a whole show of four guys with no kids, so it's easy for us to say. Yeah. Thanks for. Anyways, go to store.

Dot barstalsports.com. Check out our new green and yellow themed barstow golf line. I think you're going to like it. Mentioned Memory Lane earlier. I wouldn't hate if we did like a story or show. I saw Alertters Respondents and tweets. People were requesting more and more information, stories, backstory, because we picked up a lot of listeners along the way.

One of them that I saw a clip. from a couple of days ago that reminded me of it was the golf cart bounty story when this is early on this must have been maybe was this the first summer trend that we were doing for play you think was that 2017 or 2018 I think it was 2017 if I had to get I do too I do too and this was when the craze on social media was guys just running over their buddies with golf carts like somebody's legit standing over the golf ball they take their back swing and they just get demolished by a full speed golf card. All their buddies are laughing.

Now, where you run, our four-play Instagram account is a mix of, like, promoting our own stuff, putting up funny stuff from PGA tour events, and putting up viral golf videos. Like, it might be a gender reveal, or somebody hit the golf ball off of a cliff or some funny, somebody hitting a tree, and it hits the camera guy in the face. Everybody goes, ah, ah, it's very funny. And at the time, we were clearly getting tagged in by Barstool and posting, like our social team posting these clips of guys running over their friends with golf carts all the time.

And Trent and I were like, you know, I don't like this trend. I think this is a bad trend. People should not be running over other human beings in golf carts. It's dangerous. It's a bad look. It was just, it was bad. So we actually spoke up and said something. And eventually it got to Dave.

And we went into Dave's office. And Dave's like, you're telling me you don't want us, Barstool, to tag you for play in like the most viral golf craze going on right now and like what are you talking about we're like no we think it discredits our brand we think it makes like idiots that like just if that's all we're doing in the world of golf is running people over golf cards like we're trying to interview guys we're at least trying to show some degree of respectfulness towards other human beings on a golf course and it turned into a large debate dude dude i remember i remember that's one of the few maybe the only time it was me, you sitting in Dave's office with Gaz and Dave.

We basically got into a shouting match about how we were going to go forward with the Instagram, because it's exactly what you were saying. We were like, it's not good for the brand. It's not the sort of vibe we want to put out there. They were like, do you guys want followers, this and that? And then Dave, being a smart guy that he is, was like, we'll bring you guys on radio and we'll yell about it on radio. So at least the world knows that you guys don't approve of these videos and it'll go out

and play out that way. And it did end up petering out like the track. thankfully. But I remember for a while there was pretty fucking heated. It was heated to the point. It was like near death experiences. Like somebody was at the top of the swing just through their down swing and then boom, they get blindsided by a golf cart. I mean, yeah, there's a crime. It's a crime. It's a crime. It's a felony. Like what they were doing was a felony to other people. And so we just

weren't standing for it. And like Trent said, Dave was very smart. And he said, well, we might make you guys, I just hit the table. He said, we might make you guys keep putting these up, but at least you can come on to radio and publicly say that you're against them so that you'll have some defense. Well, that turned into a heated debate where I was like, Dave, you're an idiot. You don't, you don't get it. And then at that point, Big Cat had his scooter in the office. And so it got so heated with Dave that I then hid outside the radio studio when they came out of radio, I was going to run Dave over with Big Cat's scooter. Well, YP part of Team Portnoy, Frankie, part of Team Portnoy, alerted Dave to this.

And then I ended up getting busted. And Dave then said, I'm going to put a $1,000 bounty on. If somebody runs rigs over with a golf cart on camera and sends the video in, I will pay you $1,000. And that luckily, it was like for the summer, nobody did it. I kept my head on a swipple. And then it fizzled out and the bounty was over. But that was a very heated moment in the growth of foreplay and figuring out where we were going to go with everything because we were not happy about our account post. I remember, I remember feeling betrayed by Frankie Borelli in that moment.

This was long before he would join the fourplay crew. And I was, it had to be 2017 because I just moved to New York. So I don't know how anything works at all. I'm like a dull-eyed fucking idiot. And I didn't understand why Frankie would rat out rigs that Dave was going to get a run over by a scooter. It all makes sense now because Frankie's Dave's guy, and if he lets that happen, Frankie's in more trouble than anybody. But at the time, I remember feeling very betrayed by Frankie.

Dude, you guys put me in a position which I knew what was about to happen, and I am the right-hand man to the man that's about to happen. It's like being a secret service agent and seeing someone about to do something, and you not doing something about it. You can't. I was the head secret service agent at the time. My job was still raw, I was still new. me and Dave were just starting a vibe together. Imagine I'm just like, go on, see you later.

Like, I know you're about to get attacked. I can't do that. That's not what a loyal right-hand man does. Now, in times like this, I think I'd still have my allegiance to Dave, because Dave is our, we now know in the year 2020, we are now three years moving that. Dave Portnoy is more of an influence on us than, like, God. So at the end of the day, we do whatever we can to make them happy.

And if you think I'm letting him get run over by any of you fucking schmucks, You're crazy. I would do it twice today. What's the point now where I might lay down in front of that scooter? I mean, you just have to. Like, I just, you know how everything works now, and I think I lay down in front of that scooter. You have to.

Riggs, if you say Frankie didn't speak up and you're taking that little, like, you know, motorcycle, tricycle at Dave, what is your end goal? Like, when he sees you and potentially you nudge him in the side, Like, do you continue to hit him or what happens there if Frankie and, you know, his guards don't call you off? You know, I was so caught up in emotion. I hadn't thought that far through it.

But the scooter wasn't going to physically harm, Dave, I don't think. But it was going to alter his trajectory. So, like, he could have stumbled into the wall or something. And I thought it would have been a great clip, like a very funny clip. And if I ran him over with the scooter, I'd have. the graph. Like, we would have had the deal with those repercussions. I don't know what those would be. But I was very upset at the time. And I was like, the best way to get him back is he's going to come out of the radio studio. I'm going to run him over with one of those scooters that,

like, a disabled person drives around. That's what I was going to do. I'm pretty sure. I'm picturing you, Riggs, like, with, like, crazy eyed, like, your hair going nuts. And you're revving a motorized, like, electrical scooter outside. Like, I'm going to do it. I'm actually going to do it. And then that old office and just there's not much room anywhere to begin with. And then here comes rigs a little powered scooter. There's a picture somewhere of it. Yeah. And I think I had a giant Dunkin' Donuts cup too. And I was just like ready to go. I was heated. I was upset. I felt wrong. And I was ready to go. And then my plan just got thwarted. And I ended up getting dragged back on the radio and he put a bounty on my head to get right over by

a golf cart. Did he ever come close to getting hit by a golf cart? Did anyone, ever, like anything? Did you see anything from a distance? Because we were figuring like you'd just be out golfing and someone would come. I think what was it, 10 grand? It might have been a couple grand. I thought it was around a thousand, but it might have been a couple grand he was going. Because Dave also wasn't his rich back then. I thought it was a pretty decent bounty for someone to maybe go do it. Also, the podcast was smaller back then, like just in numbers. But I bet you today, if that went out there, there might be somebody who runs rigs over. And I'm just talking about it now.

Technically the bounty is still alive, right? Isn't that how a bounty works? Like, he still needs your head. So, like, I mean, I don't want to get that going now. But, like, it's still. That might have to be edited out. I would say, Dage is a lot wealthier now. So I would have a lawsuit would be in so it was Barstool.

So I would be, it would be an interesting situation to be in. Because I think hitting hit by those golf cards, like we said. I mean, you can do serious, serious. That's a crime. Riggs would have to sue two people. They'd sue the psychopath or ran them over. And then also Dave would be liable as well. I mean, also, in order to run somebody over with a golf cart,

you have to have complete disregard for the life. I mean, like, you have to hate them. That is like, that's a kill crime. You'll have to be in their group. You have to be in their group. You can't come from like another direction. It's like, I think that distance would totally. get like you'd notice and you'd hear something coming up but if the guy's driving you're looking

for your ball business like you see rigged over there and like you're like oh I shanked it over here and like no I'm just gonna look don't worry and then rig's got his ball and then here comes the goal I'm thinking just like the guy's in your cart and you're like maybe 10 yards ahead and you just hit the gas like you're in there you're in there watching I still think you would hear it and be able to like dodge it I mean we saw videos of people getting absolutely fucking cranked I don't know when I'd from that injury, but when I did, I would take a sand wedge to that person's house. That was another line that I said,

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boys, the incident that really blew up with, which is another good store. We were just in a van together driving around Tazzi, Tasmania, Australia. We had nothing else to do for an hour and a half, so we just started responding to people bitching about our cool video, fist bumping Tiger Woods. And next thing, you know, we were in a war with Old Man Golf Media as we were about to play Barnboogle on the shores of Tasmania. But anyways, Jeff Shackleford of Old Man Golf Media,

all-time clip. I watched this last night probably 50 times, and I just laughed out loud every single time, where Jeff Shackleford, who, again, he's not even technically that old. That was one of his big claims to on the show, and people point that out that, like, Jeff Shackford is not even that old of a guy.

Well, this fucking guy is in the queue to ask Tiger Woods a question, a Zoom question, at the Zozo Championship. And they cut, they're like, okay, next Jeff Shackleford. And then after like six seconds, they're like, Jeff, I think you're on mute. And then another like eight seconds goes by. And then they just go to somebody else. And then like two questions later, they go, okay, I think we have Jeff again. And then five seconds later, they go, Jeff, I think you're on mute.

And then finally, when they go to somebody else, Jeff comes in. And then Tiger just starts laughing at Jeff Shagher's face about how this old man can't figure out fucking Zoom. It was so reflective of everything. I just, it's one of my favorite videos. He's not old in years or like human years, dog years. At the end of the day, he's old in his soul. He has an old mind. He has an old way of thinking.

He has an old. habits. Everything about him is old except for maybe his bones. The fact that he fell into this trap of not knowing the technology, I saw him going on Twitter being like they lied about my connection issues when I was on the podcast. Like, dude, you couldn't speak into the camera. You couldn't speak into the phone on the podcast. We couldn't get you to get like the connection, whether it was you were in a bad spot. You just couldn't figure it out one of the only ones in poor play history that couldn't get the connection. action right in the beginning. And then you get here, you get Tiger Woods standing there.

Having Tiger Woods' attention is maybe the most time sensitive, important moment of your life. Regardless of how many times Jeff Schackford has done it, Tiger Woods is looking into a camera and you have to now communicate with him. And that is a do-or-die moment. And you- Not easy to do. Sometimes, though. Some people freeze. And that's a mental freeze, though. That's something that Tiger's Gore does. That's not like, oh, I don't know how to work these young little tablets. Like, he's sitting there hitting buttons being like, I don't know. Hello, he's dusting off.

He's blowing into the N64 cartridge. He doesn't understand what's going on. He couldn't get there. He couldn't figure it out. And that's sad for Jeff, because honestly, if, you know, the way he bitched about us getting all this access in Australia and all

stuff, I don't think that they should allow Jeff Shackofford to talk to Tiger Woods anymore. That guy is off his rocker. We need to put him in a home. He doesn't, why do we not get to speak to Tiger Woods in the fucking Zozo Championship? but Jeff Shackleford gets to put up a one-on-one fucking question.

He's speaking to no one. He's not even asking the question. It's going on Jeff Shackleford.com. His names lit up like the fucking Hollywood sign in West Hollywood. The guy's a fucking joke. And I think, I'm sure a lot of people like Jeff Shacklerford. But the fact that he gets that opportunity. I don't.

I really, as being pretty connected to the golf world, they really don't. The fact that this guy gets to talking to his own to Tiger, goddamn Woods, fucking Eldrick, big Dick Eldrick. And he's standing there being,

what, Jeff? What? What, Jeff with a G, G off? Come on, give me a question. And he's like, I can't communicate with you. You got to put him in a home. Put them in home. I'll say the first lesson for people in the home, too,

is just how to get in and out of Zoom cleaner. If you can get that, you can do a lot. That stumble, looking around, and then when they gave it to somebody else, and then that's when he started to speak up, was all time. And then Tiger Woods laughing at his face was just like, maybe time to move on here.

because I agree his habits and just his personality is just ancient. He also, Jeff Shackford has nothing else to do. This is the biggest moment of Jeff Shaggavard's mother. Like he doesn't, he's not a golf channel anymore. He doesn't do anything. Like he had, the only thing he has is his little blog where he tweets out a blog and gets like two likes on his blog. So he has nothing.

Now he gets, he's in this situation. The tournament at Sherwood has come, it's come to his home. state. He finally gets this moat. And he's just not ready so much so like Frankie said, he's hitting buttons, he's flipping off, light switches. How do I get this fucking screen to be able to hear what I'm asking Tiger Woods? He can't figure it out. It was the most put him in a home clip that I've ever seen maybe. And for it to come a, you know, less than a year after our falling out versus old man golf media, it's a tough thing to come back from. So anytime, anytime somebody tries to claim that Jeff Shaggaford is not like old bank off

music just just put the clip in it's like no Jeff just can you get off mute for us Jeff like on Zoom can you get off mute is are you do we need to send a fucking nurse to your house to get you off of mute like it was it was great and I enjoyed every second he's dead you guys kill Jeff Schaferred right there two minutes is he's a dead person I don't I don't need to add anything we rest our case it's over for Jeff Shagggeberg I will say one thing, the funniest part of that, one of the funniest parts of the interview that we did with him was when he was like, I don't make it about myself. It's not about me. It's about the work. And then Frankie's like, but you work from jeff-shackleford.com. And he was like, oh, yeah. It's like, all right. That's your time. We'll see you later. The name you could come up with. The more we hear about, like, Rick said, he's more connected. Like, he's like rude with people. He's just been in the media world for a long time and hasn't made many friends in it. And for that,

reason I'm out on him. Like when you're in at this many tournaments, you're complaining about this many people. I'm just, you know who he is? He's the guy. He's the guy that says she and her to Siri. Oh, what, what did she say? Or get her on there. Get that Siri on there. Like my grandma does that. Oh, what's she say? Where is she going? The GPS, I can't hear her. Put it up. Like, it's, first of all, it's a computer system. It's called AI. And actually, it's going to take over the where one day we're all just succumbing to this artificial intelligence and we're all going to die and they're going to end up going into our brains. Elon Musk is going to put fucking chips inside our brains and then at one point they're just going to combust and we're not going to know

where to go left or right. Honestly, I've been reading a lot into this that Elon Musk is putting into us and someone said a really good point. What if someone just hacks that chip? Right? Like you're putting a chip into your brain to then allow artificial intelligence to help you think. They say may help Alzheimer's. It may help critical thinking in like in areas of where you like you need to like do double time and guys are trying to figure out formulas that's going to help you fucking synapses synapses. What happens if someone fucking hacks that shit? It's like all this craziness like noise and and signs.

Like I can't get it out of my head. You're just going to put a bullet to your head. What are you going to do? Welcome. Welcome to the rebellion, Frankie. Everybody else is on Elon Musk. I don't want to get into an Elon Musk thing. But you're right, that neurolink that he is already connected to pigs his brains.

He's like, oh, we're about to go to market in the next 18 months. Good luck. Good luck when somebody hacks it and takes over the world. I think it's a good idea. My question is what happens when someone hacks it. Good question. Nobody's putting a chip in my brain. I'd rather be stuck with this thing forever than risk.

Elon Musk taking over my brain. Because at the end of the day, if we had one at Jeff Shackleford, he would have asked fucking Teggerwood's a seamless question. We wouldn't have wasted the boss man's time. So there is good and there is bad to it. Jeff Shackerelford needs a chip. He needs to be first in line.

He's a chip. To go a little bit of a different direction, Mori, the fucking guy, you're not the father guy. That's a guy who has it. He's got it all together. What a well-spoken human being. Oh, my God.

That's a guy. Who I love Mori, by the way. Mori's got to figure it out. That guy's had that gig and born to do that role. more than anyone's ever been kind of role destiny. It's just him. That's the job. That's his gig.

That's what he'll be remembered as. And he does a great job. Mori is a big golfer apparently. He's like a one or two handicapped, even though he's 82 years old, but he's outrageous. 82? What?

I looked it up. Mori's going to be 82 in January. And he's a two handicap or whatever. Like, that's crazy. Whoa. I think he's like a two or three. Like he's a stick. People send him me DMs that have like catty for him.

there like, Mori is a hardcore golfer and he's a player. I was like, oh, Mori, this is the second time something like this happened. He's on Barstool breakfast a couple weeks ago. People start to alert me that during the interview,

Mori's like, hey, hey, hey, by the way, while we're talking basketball, you know, are you guys familiar with this rigs guy? I,

uh, what's going on with his swing and starts talking about me swing? So then KFC radio, Kevin fights some of our good friends. They put out this clip yesterday from their show where it appears to be the end of the show and Mori will not let the show in he's like hey you guys do you guys know rigs

and they're like yeah of course we know rigs and he's like all right this guy posts his videos of him swinging all over the fucking world can you tell him these guys stop taking the club so far back inside and he starts getting into how that's going to lead to him coming over the top

he's going to push it out and slice it or if he whips his hand through he's going to hook and he starts going on this rant about my golf swing so then everybody's coming after me like like Mori, the fucking paternity test guy, buried me in my golf game, which I don't fully agree with.

Frankie did one of the early tweets about it, about Mori. And I don't, like, Mori, I think was trying to help Riggs out. I think Mori was saying, hey, I've stumbled upon these videos and I watched them on the internet and what that fucking Riggs guy needs to do,

because Mory's 82, I can speak however we want, what that Riggs guy needs. to do is take his club, you know, a little more outside on the back. And I appreciated that advice because I love more. Well, it came from a frustration place, I think. He's a consumer of your content. He's like, can you guys get in contact with this guy that I watch every day? Because we've all experienced stuff like that where like you're watching something, you're enjoying something, and you have a little quirk and you really want to get into that guy's head. Like you're like,

I need to speak to that person, even though I'll never be able to. And more he found a situation, which he'd be able to speak to you, finally get his information to you, and he cannot watch one more rigsverse with you coming inside anymore, or else he's just going to lose it. More he may see the end of his days if you don't get that ball,

that ball to stop moving from left to right. He needs you to come outside the end, he needs you to take it back straight, and he was going to do anything he could to have that information displayed on a KSC radio fucking video so that you could see it. He needed that to happen, and honestly, I was so stunned

when I saw that. Oh my God. I cannot, dude, my fucking brain is... Do you need a chip? Do you need a chip in that? Joey Langgoe, one of my fucking, one of my pals. I love Joey Langonegoe, and he's a Borelli's fucking customer. The guys, Joey Langone's been coming to Borelli since before he was hired.

He used to come once a week and just tweet out, like, my dad, like your dad helped me out, whatever, and then he finally got the job at Barser, at Barsal with K's Grady. Joey Langone is one of the greatest tweeters of all time. He's just not even close. So he brought me over to his death and he's like, watch this clip. And I'm like, all right, Joe Lang Gowin's telling me to watch a clip. It's a must watch clip. And he had that tweet constructed like he had made the graphic, the whole thing.

And I was like, what am I watching right? I think Trent, when you saw it, you said, I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe right now. Because it was like a KSU radio interview and all of a sudden we're like listening to these words that are very familiar to us. Griggs is swing. music on the set of the Mori show. So it's like, it's almost like when you're watching a movie and the person that's like, you're watching TV and the person just looks into the TV and like, that's right, Billy.

Like, I'm talking to you. It's like, whoa, wait a minute. Mori's talking to us right now? What the fuck is that? Yeah. I mean, we, I've been watching Mori just like everybody else for my entire life. And I've, I heard him utter the words of, you know, you are the father, you're not the father. And then a couple days ago, I hear him saying, you guys know this Riggs fella and he's

talking about your golf swing, it really felt like an alternate universe. I agree. I couldn't believe it. I mean, like, yeah, your swing, everybody in dogs in your swing. I went on Twitter to try to defend you, to try to find the good within your swing that has created such evil thoughts and everybody's eyes. That is, that's just honest. That is.

That is honest to God true. Because I was like, he is a good. Look at the phrasing of your tweet. But you said, I didn't see it. The phrasing of his tweet, nobody on earth could find. this to be a defense because you literally say, you literally say waiting to hear the first backer of Riggs-Barshal's swing. I mean, he plays to a 4.2 handicap. Can anyone besides him defend his swing? Are there any positives to his motion? You're saying that's a tweet defending me?

Is there anybody out there anybody out there who can defend Riggs's swing? It just goes into a canyon. So don't you know about the English language? So I was, and then I tagged the teachers of our generation that might know what you're doing well about your swing. Because I don't know anything about the golf swing. I'll be the first one to say that. I know nothing about how it really works. But I was interested to know, since you're a good golfer, by all accounts, I played with you a bunch.

I can defend your scores. You play to a, you have a good golfer. And why didn't you say that in the tweet? You should have said, hey, I know one person that could defend you, me. I know your game. But I can defend. The only thing I can do is I can defend the outcome of your game. I think you have a good golf game.

What I can't defend is your swing. I can't defend my swing. I want to know, like, there's got to be. That is the defense. Nobody cares about the actual swing. It's like that is the defense. What? The result.

That is the defense. So that, yes, that is the defense. But I want to know, like, if there's some sort of part of your swing through impact, Ledbetter said that you actually use the grand. own well, which I was like, oh, that's interesting. That was so sarcastic tweet. Oh, my God. You know what?

You know what? Lurch is so bad at Twitter that I almost believe him. Same. Halfway through that little like that little motto, whatever you just did that you were spilling out like your heart there, I actually believed in you. Dude, I swear, it came from a good place. Now, sensitive rigs did not think so. But it did come from a good place.

It was not communicated as if it came from a good place. Like, if you can't, nobody would say, waiting to hear the first backer, I mean he plays to a 4.2 handicap. That is saying, I've never seen anything defending that he could play to that handicap. It's you. You're the one that could defend.

We play golf together all the time. Right. So you're spot on. I think reads as though that you're saying he's like, not a 4 handicap. Correct. that you're saying that you can't believe that he says that. Is there anyone out there in the world that can defend this guy and his handicap?

And the answer would be Larch, this writer of the tweet. So yes, I am the first one to defend it. But I'm just interested to know if your club gets to good positions, when and where and why. That's what I don't know. Obviously, at some point it gets to a good position. That's like a dumb thing. Now I'm switching on the other side.

Like you weren't looking for like one person that well actually at impact he squares it up because like if he's a poor handicap obviously at some point he squares it up like your tweet made it look like he's saying that you made it look like you're questioning his handicap based off of his swing and you're saying is there anyone out there that can justify him being a four handicap with this swing anyone out there at all aside from himself coming from the guy that plays probably more golf with me the only guy that could have justified it. So my thought was he's a four. He has to be doing things well. Hey, coaches that are out there that know the golf swing, what is he doing well? Because I don't understand. So that's so nasty. Right.

What I'm learning right now is that you are a liability when it comes to communication. Like the fact that you actually meant between a positive way, when any person who reads that thinks, boy, that's a negative thing to say about someone, is really stunning. Anyone in the world that reads that would think that that's a negative connotation to that.

The other thing, though, that I'm not good at is obviously, well, Twitter is one thing. I don't know how well people can catch, like if I retweet my own tweet. So when I retweeted that tweet and then Riggs took a screenshot of that was I laughed out loud. And when I just saw that, I had a lot of laugh, again, to a normal person that consumes the English language on social media, on blogs, all kinds of places. What I saw was a mean-spirited tweet. That was then retweeted by the creator of that tweet within a few hours. Now what the fuck's going on?

I kind of like it now. You got me guessing. I don't know what's going on. You're allowed to send that tweet. Yeah. Stand by it. Like we all fucking rag on each other swings and stuff. You just can't sit here and act like that came from a good place.

It's like, I fucking wrote, Mori put, put Riggs in the fucking coffin. He's dead. He's murdered. Two o'clock in the afternoon, Mori just killed Riggs. We need a new podcast host. Like, it's over.

But you're like, well, no, I was like on your side. I was like, just say that you were, you wrote that with a smirk. Like, is there anyone out there? So I wrote it with, it came from maybe not a good place, but more than a good place. And I was,

I was acutely interested, and I still am, in what part of Riggs, his golf swing is going to keep. Like if your golf swing was 100%, or like you're looking at the whole picture of the golf swing and it's like kind of, I don't know, like a pie chart, what percentage would you want to keep of that golf swing

is what I want to hear from the pro teachers? I see. That you need to be more specific, I think, if that is in any way what you actually intended that tweet to be. Trent doesn't want that because he loves that you're just, you're such an ambiguous. He was Twitter. Is he on my side?

Are you against me? Are you with old man golf media now? Nobody knows, really. The whole thing is very confusing. But again, when I saw someone right, what could only be interpreted as an extremely mean-spirited tweet about my golf game and then retweeted it themselves and tagged a bunch of people with large following, I did not take kindly to that. There. Fair to think so. I will say we didn't learn anything from it.

But yeah, I mean, I'll work on my, I'll make sure. Actually, I kind of like living in this ambiguous world because you don't know, you're kind of guessing, all three of you are guessing of how I feel and how I'm coming at it. So maybe I'll try to keep on this kind of, I don't know, this edge that I live on. You can say you're living like a conscious effort, but just keep being yourself. That's it. You just keep being yourself and it's going to come off as ambiguous. on Twitter.

I said, now, what the fuck is this tweet? What's going on on this tweet? I see a bunch of George Gankis. I see Hank Haynes. What is going on this tweet here? And I just didn't come off as being particularly kind to old Wigze here. Going back in for the self-retweet is quite a move. Just like, I don't think enough people saw this first time around.

I was looking to drum up some more interest. So that's when I went with a, let's go ahead and retweet this thing. That's incredible. But then when I saw his picture, because it says, like, Lurch tweeted this, like, it's just your actual tweet. But then right above it, it says Lurch retweeted. So it just, it looks like the most desperate cry in the picture. And that's when I really had a good laugh when I saw that. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer.

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And boom, I have now taken, I think, my fifth COVID test and tested negative. I did not. I did not. On Monday, I felt horrific. Had a sore throat. Thought for sure I had COVID. Supposed to go to a wedding this weekend. I was panicking.

I got the rapid test. I got the other test, whichever they call it, P, something. And then I also got the antibody test. I'm waiting for those results. just a little tidbit about myself. But Adam Scott has tested positive. He's out. And then Tiger Woods.

Everyone has that feeling. Like you're allowed to have other sicknesses. I've said this now that COVID has taken away other sicknesses from us, where we go and get tested, we get negative. And then we're like, we're perfect. We're fine. Like I'm walking around. I've gotten six COVID tests.

I'm negative every time. But something's wrong with me. Like maybe it's something worse. Maybe it's something worse. I can't. I'm tired. every night like I'm fucking I have a headache like it's not COVID but I'm acting like I'm jolly fucking free before COVID having this whatever's going on me right now was a bad thing now it's like oh no

you're fine honey well well just seven months ago if I was feeling this way I'd be like rushed to the hospital people would be like he has like problems he's sleeping too much like you can't eat you can't put that so I think that it's taking you know what I mean though like every time you get that negative testing you're like I'm Scott free you know well it's like seven months ago I want You were just sick. It's a binary skits. Like you either have COVID or you're totally fine. Those are the only two options.

And that's just not true. Like there are thousands of terrible sicknesses. How do you know I don't have one of those? I could just have one of the other ones. So it did feel like I was trying to convince myself that I have one of the other ones. And then I did. Like I went and I got the COVID test. And then I came back and I just still had a sore throat that night.

And I was like, well, now wait. I'm still just not good. I'm not, you guys didn't fix me by telling me I don't have COVID-19. So anyways, I do not. All the other diseases in the world is just the other ones is laugh out loud funny. No, no, I just, I didn't have that, but I just have one of the other ones. Like, give me anything else on the shelf. It's like you get like water and there's like just like supermarket brands.

You just, I don't know, I'll just have one of the other ones. Or it's like, no, it's like, no, I don't have COVID-19. I do have the flu, but I can go to this wedding. and people won't get mad at me. Yeah, right. Like, as long as you don't have the thing that people are going to get the most mad at you about, you can go to that wedding.

Show up to the wedding, they're like, man, you look horrible. It's like, dude, I got COVID tests, and I'm fine. It's just cancer. Don't worry about it. Like, I'm going to be fine. Don't worry. It's no one else is getting it.

It's like, okay. All right, all right, hey, twist his show, boy. Oh, shout. Lift him on my chair. He's good. Oh, oh, oh. I feel like I've been yet.

into this mic a lot of this episode. I can see that being an S&L skit when like maybe, I don't know that the world would really be able to laugh about the same point, but that is there's some dark humor in that, in that little scenario right there. I think there's some humor in there. That's like some Kirk Minnaugan humor in there. Yes.

And then the last thing I was going to say is Tiger Woods just said he might add Houston, might add Houston to the schedule before the, the Masters tournament, depending on how everything goes this week, and he canceled the Hero World Challenge. I think he's expected an 18 field event down at Albany and the Bahamas. He's just not doing that. That's one last week that we're going to get to watch Tiger. And he may add Houston. Hopefully, I mean, I assume that means if everything goes well this week, he's probably not going to add it.

Like if he's playing good and he feels healthy, he's probably just going to be like, no, I'm good to go. So in an ideal world, he plays well, wins, and then probably doesn't play Houston and then plays the master's tournament. So enjoy the hero or the not the hero world challenge. I was confused because that's Sherwood is where the Hero World Challenge was for a while. The Zozo Championship, Tiger Woods is the champion. We got some from the gallery stuff, but we are going to go to Matt Stel first. All right, folks, we're joined by a very special guests coming to us from Nashville. He's even got a guitar back there.

He's got Pieders number two hat on. We just saw Piner's flag that I'm sure we'll get into. Matt Stel. What's going on, my friend? Man, just living. living the dream here as much as you can in these times, but good's a relative term, but I'm doing good. You got all you, all you, every time we speak to one of you guys, you just got that voice, you got that accent right away that's just like, this guy's a singer. Yeah, well, it's because

none of us can sing any other kind of music. We didn't have any options. We had to go sing singing country music. You sing a cold play song and it sounds like Garth Brooks, so you kind of have to like do your thing. So, look, you got a, you got kind of a crazy story. We're looking through some of your stuff, some of your background, some of your history from, like, LeBron to playing Tiger Woods games to Harvard Medical School. Like, what is your, what is your story? How did you end up in Nashville?

Well, I don't know. I started writing songs in college. Like, I fell in love with it. I, you know, I was playing basketball, and it's a winter sport, right? on campus a whole spring break. And I'm in spring, the whole winter break. And yeah, I got bored to playing Tiger Woods and my teammates and my mom

brought this guitar up for me that she got me and I was like 12 that I never messed with. I just sat in front of a computer just like this and learning how to play all the songs that you learn on guitar. And that turned into the frat houses and that turned into the, you know, vent, you know, like,

playing out a little bit. And I started writing songs as soon as I could play guitar. And I just kind of, man, I stuck with it. I was really not very good for a long time. And I kept grinding because I loved it and it didn't feel like work. And yeah, I mean, one thing led to another, had some success riding in Texas and then that scene and touring around and moved to Nashville thinking I could do it here. And man, I got lucky met the right people and here we sit. How tall are you? Like six, seven.

So we got a six, seven guy who can play the guitar with that voice showing up to like frat party with your fucking guitar. Yeah, but I was, I was so drunk. I wasn't a danger to anybody but myself. I wasn't going to cut your throat. Crazy to me that you just like pick up the guitar like that and say I'm going to wing this. but you had to have had some sort of passion for music leading into that, right? It's not like something you just pick up on YouTube. Like you probably had to have like sang a little bit, right?

Like you know you have a good voice. You don't just like come into that. Yeah, I mean, I felt like I could sing, but I never like did in church or anything. I never, I was not that guy. I was, I was a ball player. I had a musical family. You know, I knew they were musical. I just, I guess because a lot of my family was pretty musical,

I just assumed everybody love music the way that I did. and it just remained a passion. You know what I mean? It was like it wasn't like I started loving it more. It was just like a lot of other things went away. And especially when I graduated college, you know, I was so sick of basketball anyway. But, you know, that dream was kind of like done and music fit in that. And it was just I didn't know I was that passionate about it.

I just thought that's just everybody was. And it's just still kind of been that way. I mean, we were talking about before, you know, the pandemic, it sucks for every reason you can think of, but one reason it doesn't is because I have so much time to write songs. I just got off a Zoom right with like two legends and writing songs, and I get as pumped about

that as I do, you know, playing a ballgame or going to play Pinehurts or something like that. You know, it's just, I don't know, it's just a passion. What are these Zoom, the Zoom rights? Are they, how different are they than, you know, typical songwriting's all been? Yeah, man, you know,

at this point now, everybody kind of knows what to expect going in. When we were kind of starting, it's a little touch and go, and it's easier to do it when you're doing it with people that you already know. Like kind of a cold call, if you will, like riots can be tough. But now, and I've known both of these guys today, but yeah, everybody's just kind of used to it. It's just kind of now it's business as usual. And, you know, there's some benefits to it.

You know, it's a little more efficient in some ways because you can't, you know, kind of divides the work a little bit more. But I get in the room still some now, and I wouldn't trade that for it. But it's just nice to do it. So I got to hear about this. Something I'm seeing here is that you started playing gigs. You already talked about that while you're playing ball. You came up with an alias so that your coach wouldn't find out that you were actually doing

that's on the side. And your alias was Paul Wayne Walker. Is that right? That's right. Yep, yeah, Paul Wayne. I mean, look, everybody's always dreamed about coming up with like an alias. Yeah. Where's the alias come from?

Man, I was really into a, I was really into a singer-songwriter from Mississippi named Paul Thorne there for a while, and he was just cool. And so his name was like, Paul, he would tell these stories in his show. Like Paul Wayne would be what his story. So I just stole that. and then my mother's made name with Walker and it just kind of worked that way. And so yeah,

O'Paul, Wayne Walker. I kind of missed those days. I don't know if you watch Parks and Rec, but you're the real life Ron Swanson. You're Duke Silver without doing your gigs. He doesn't have gigs and he doesn't want anybody at the parks department to know who he is. That's a real life version.

Exactly. Exactly. You zig when they're zagging. Yep. Yeah, what was your, like, inspirations of music? Like, girl, like, I know you're, probably were country and you said like a Mississippi writer and stuff like that but did you like did you like other types of music rock like you know pop rock all that stuff yeah man i mean

the first you know country radio is kind of the deep off setting you know that that was what was playing everywhere but the music i think the first music i ever bought would have been like aladdin more sets jagged little bill and uh i love that all that 90s like alternative music i just i still love it like who does You know, it's kind of weird, but you're like, hoody and the blowfish and Oasis and, man, so many of those bands from that time were just, like, even to this day, I still, and they're just really influential, I feel like. You know, you mix that with country music and, man, you know, I played basketball my whole

life, so I'm no stranger to hip hop either. So, like, all those kind of get mixed up together. And, you know, like everybody, nobody listens to one kind of music. And I'm, right. So when we were in Nashville a couple weeks ago, we were there with Jake Owen, Hardy, a bunch of these guys. I understand you did a golf trip with these guys. But when I was, I played a little practice around a couple days before our match with Jake. And in the cart, he was singing this like rap song that he's been working on with his boys.

Like, do you guys fuck around with that other stuff a lot? Is that even help? Like, does it help to kind of inspire and get you going in the music that you're obviously like specializes? Edd? 100% man. Yeah. I mean, you know,

I just take a feature on a rap song here not too long ago from a guy that I had the opportunity to just because like, I don't know. I would think that'd be the cool.

Like Nate Dogg had the coolest job, man. He just went on and was just hard as hell on all these other rappers records about, you know, how badass they were. And, you know, he just, the voice of all of them singing the hook.

I was like, that's the coolest shit ever. So, yeah, man. Like, anytime I'm, like, I can get outside the box and do it. It's just, you know, it's like anything else, man. You kind of get stuck doing one thing. And even if you love it, you want to, you want to branch out so that you can, when you do come back to what you do, you at least have a different perspective and have some fun. Yeah. Trent's our big rap guy, so he's all pumped right now. I mean, I love Nate Dogg. He was, what a legend. He's the greatest ever do it, the greatest

hook singer would ever do it. I mean, honestly, the goat, you know. you're really really comfortable obviously in your setting now when you step on the golf course is it is it a nerve-wracking place what's your vibes like on the golf course do you get the first tee jitters or where's your game at right now well um i do get the first tea jitters but that's part of like what i love about it is like it's one of the few things like that and singing a national anthem or like the most nerve-wracking things if i'm like on a guy's trip or something i'm playing a So, but up until the last few weeks, I had been playing a lot of golf. But even when I was on that, that Pinehurst trip, I've been playing the worst golf that I

have in like all of 2020 for sure, like, at the wrong time, you know. Like, it's one thing to go play, you know, Pinehurst number two, and it's going to kick your ass anyway. But then to just be absolutely hitting it like hammered dog shit, it's just a real exercise in character because I just wanted to break every club, you know, and then I didn't want everybody to have a bad time. And it sucked. It was great, but it sucked.

And you're playing your worst golf amongst friends and people that you want to, like, play well in front of, right? Like, you finally get a boys trip together and you're playing like shit, it's embarrassing. You don't, you have to like make excuses. Everyone's looking at you like you're the odd man out. It's the worst feeling. As you can tell, I'm very familiar with that situation. I was going to say, you just wrote my mind.

life right there. If you can make that shit rhyme, then we'll have a song. Frankie Shanks. That happened to me this year. We went to me, Lurch, our friend Josh, and our guy Gordon got out to play Cyprus finally. I mean, Cyprus is up there with like a Gus, like a top two courts you could possibly play. And we were so excited. Perfect weather. Our host was such a nice guy and he's, he busted my balls about barstool and we'll play a little bit on the range. We get out there and get a couple holes and then played the first couple holes decently. And then, I mean, I couldn't hit a T shot in play.

And Cyprus is like a place, you can't even lose a ball at Cyprus. I lost a ball on everything. Like, it was just, it was, and, you know, there were some moments on like nine and ten when you know these holes like 14, 15, 16, 17 are coming up that are like the most iconic holes in the world. You're like, okay, you've got to find something. But then I hit a T-shot, you know, 170 yards right out of play. And I just was hanging in my head and I was like, find a way, like you said, it was the most trying moment of trying to like hold on to my character that I've ever had. So I'm like, nobody else cares that you're playing bad, but you're really

sad about it. So just try to stay positive. And it was really difficult. Yeah, man. That's the challenge for it because, God, playing good golf is. the best. The playing shitty golf is the absolute worst. Talk to me about being a... You don't know how to fix it either. You know, like for us, like if it goes bad, that thing, no ability to write the ship because I don't have a trust-forthy swing. We all picked up golf after like high school or grade school or whatever. Exactly. Exactly. You just don't have a swing to go back to. So then it's just a mess

if it goes off the rails. Oh, it's like when I play basketball even to this day, I don't think about what my elbow and about beef and shit. You know, I go shoot the damn ball. And with golf, I'm like, okay, let me, you know, I know exactly what you made. Yeah. And then your buddy has like the balls that will be like, dude, I think you're just like swaying a little bit or like says some comment to you. And you weren't even in that like stratosphere of thought. Right.

Now I got no, I don't even know up from down now. Yeah. And you're like, actually, buddy, how about I was thinking you should. go fuck yourself. That's like what else was like, why did you just leave my swing alone right now? I'm in my own place. So Pires trip was quite the crew. I mean, you guys, you had Jake Owen, you had Hardy. What's a trip like that? I mean, you got a bunch of country stars. Like, what's a trip like that like? Well, you know, first of all, it was great because it was like organized and everybody knew what they were doing. Chris Lane put it all, man. And yeah, I met a

of people that I didn't know what, you know, on that trip and that I just kind of barely knew and got to spend some time with some folks. And I mean, it's just like, just a golf trip with your guys and you, you know, you want to, you want to play well. It's really no different. Unless you get around like, you know, when there's like when Jake is there and when, like, Charles Kelly, you know, he was there and you kind of get to get to those guys, you know, it's a little bit different for for them in terms of being in public, you know, maybe. Brett Young a little bit too. And like, you know, but for me, like, one out of, not that many people know who I am

and I don't really on a golf course anyway. So it's not like, just like a boy's trip, honestly. It's great, though. Piner's, we've all had some good times of Pynos. Yeah, Briggs lived there for 185 days. There's 99. Dude, talk to me about being a 6-7 golfer. Do you come across problems with clubs and stuff?

Do you have to get everything, like, extended? What's that like? yeah man I do and it's a nice built-in excuse you know it's like it's like oh well you know there's there's not a lot of tall golfers out there but uh you know like I guess there are but that's my excuse so that's nice but yeah you just got to get shit this longer and um yeah it's like buying pants I mean it's the same thing no it's just hard because like when you learn right like you probably learned on shorter clubs and stuff like you pick up the clubs that like dick sporting goods and then like you know

then have when you figure out like for me the biggest thing that was the most eye-opened experience in golf was getting fitted for clubs with shafts and the and the and the and the stiffness and the lofts and all that like I just always picked up clubs off the rack and just use them and I can't imagine being seven inches tall or eight inches tall or ever tall I am like that I would just I'd be like oh this is just how you play you hunch over you barely reach the ground with the club and that's how you play and then finally you get a fitting it's like oh shit I can actually do this now it must have been like it must have been like it must have been like it must have like putting on glasses for the first time like this is a whole new world exactly man it's like

but again it's another built-in excuse so that's nice you know that i can just be like well it's the equipment to the reason that i'm not as good as as all y'all have you have you ever had to rent clubs like renting clubs must be a nightmare for you if you show up there you're like no i can't play with these clubs like i can't yeah man like i've rented clothes before but honestly at this point now, I bring my clothes a lot of the time. Like, probably, almost all the time. I've got a guitar on my back in the airport, and my clothes are checked. Because I do, I love the play when we're on the road.

I keep them under the bus. But yeah, renting clubs is just kind of like, can't really do it. You know, I can play long irons, you know, that's fine. And my driver and stuff like that, no, that's longer. I just kind of get closer to it. But, yeah, when it gets down to, like, short irons and wedges, it's like, I can't. I can't do it. I feel like golf's contagious in that Nashville area, man.

Every one of you guys, every one of you guys we talk to, you all got a bunch of buddies that are in the music industry that we know that, like, they're all golfing. It's real contagious down there. I get the vibe. Yeah, man. And it's a lot of, you know, a lot of people, a lot of us play ball, you know, in high school, a lot of college as well. And there's something about that that, you know, music is definitely a competitive thing, but not, it's like indirectly competitive. You know, I can't, like my input, like what I wrote the song today is not going to show up the way, you know, a fair way in regulation does. And so there's something about keeping score that way that I know I really love.

It's a little more objective and it's a little more, you know, input output. And so that's definitely part of it. And I think a lot of the guys, especially ones that play ball, any kind of ball, you know, before music is kind of that work. I feel like, too, the country music seems very collaborative. I feel like all you guys know each other, help each other out, right together. I feel like it's, I don't know, it just seems more collaborative than I would get. Yeah, and it's Nashville's kind of a small town. and, you know, we're all just a bunch of bros, to be honest with you.

And we all like all the same stuff. Like, we're all gambling on football. We're all playing golf, gambling on that. We're all drinking beer. We're all playing music. Like, you end up having so much in common that it's like, well, after we get done working today, let's go hang out. And that's really a great part of the community and a great part of what makes Nashville great

because it really is kind of just a big old small town. It comes like you guys got a pretty good life going on now now. Maybe I should try my hand at Nashville. Yeah, come on down. Come on down. Man, when it works, it's great. It's great for sure. I don't think this voice would sustain any sort of lifestyle down there.

It kick you. Remember, like, Lurch, there's a couple places as large you can't go, I don't think. Arizona is just too hot for your big person. And Nashville, I think your voice is too tromboney to be allowed around. I did play the trombone in a third and fourth grade band, though. That's when I knew. Music's probably not for me. It's like a deep voice, but it's not like Johnny Cash.

It's like a bad deep voice. It's terrible how toned up I am. Off-putting. Rhone in a rap battle once told someone that they're uncomfortable to be around. You're uncomfortable to listen to. That reminds me last year, almost a year ago today, I finished not dead last in a rap battle at a bar after a show in somewhere in Iowa. So it's like Iowa, so whatever.

But hey, I didn't come in a laugh. I'm from Iowa. I'm from Iowa. There you go. That's a bad break. You just ain't out. That's a bad break. Well, how come if you're from Iowa, then how come y'all don't have better taste in bars that I was spitting out there?

How come I didn't win? I mean, I can't speak to your bars because I wasn't there, but I mean, I don't know. Maybe they're just not as educated in the rap game as I am being from Iowa. You have a guy named Rhone, Roney Baby, the Prince. He's one of the most talented people at Barstall Sports. He is a rap battle champion, like, like Return of the King. He goes to this place. King of the Dot.

The King of the Dot in Toronto. It's like the ultimate rap battles like place. And his videos, honestly, if you ever have time to kill, go type in Rone rap battles. You will laugh so hard at how much he did. Something about rap battling is like, it's not just like getting in like the rhythm and getting that like lyrics and the rhyme, but he destroys this person on every single level of their body. Like he goes to like their history, their parents, their ex-girlfriend. He's like, and he's tying it all together with words. You can't imagine.

It's like he's a lyrical genius. Honestly, you have to check this out. It's insane. What's it called Rone or what? His name's Rone. So if you type in Rone. Roan, R-O-N-E, and there's like rap battle, like Roan versus, I don't know, there'll be a million.

A lot will come up, a ton will come up. Dude, he is just, and the crowd goes crazy, and he's pulling words. Like, you can't, he'll, like, say Ron Ar-Test and then say something that Ryan's at Ryan-R-O-N-R-Test, but it's about a game Ron Ar-Test was in. It's crazy, so, yeah, you don't get me going about rap battle, because I watch those on YouTube all day long. I love it. That's badass.

I, the only rap battles I ever knew about was, like, you know, eight mile. So I walked in this bar and they were just like doing it. And they needed some more people to do it. And I was like, fuck it. I'll do it. And it was like, I've seen the movie. I'll do it. Yeah, I've seen the movie. Yeah, it's mom's spaghetti. This is easy. But like, I don't want to give the impression that I was in any way good at it. Like I was not. I was not. But I, uh, I was a mark for somebody. But anyway. Yeah, it's like, it's just like when somebody asks, like, oh, you play a lot of golf. And you're like, no, no, I'm, uh, I'm not. I'm, uh, I'm not. I'm, uh, I was a mark. I'm not in any way good at it, but I play it, I love it.

I just suck at it. Exactly. Exactly. All right, Matt. Well, hey, man, this is a lot of fun. We got to get out and play golf sometimes. It's a bummer. We missed you for the four-man scramble.

We absolutely destroyed your peers a couple weeks ago. Man, I heard y'all gave them the business. Yeah. We kind of brought it. Like, we suck all year round when we play golf on camera. and then when these matches we peak, we're like Brooks Kept. We like peek for the real big ones.

And then where you can miss the cut every other week when you miss cut. I think Jake going got transfusioned. I think Jake lost his edge when he had a couple of transfusions. So that was a huge advantage for us. He was really loose with his wings. It's part of the game. It's kind of his fault going in and not being prepared.

You know, you've got to work up to that. Yeah. Golf the metal game. Yeah. Like if you're the guy and you're forcing that just got, too drunk and couldn't keep it together in the back back back. Like that's on you. That's part of the game. So I was drinking a bunch too. I still made the put to win. So it's like you got to find the balance. Yeah. You know, some people, some just champions. They're just born, born winners.

And that's what it sounds like. I wasn't going to say there is a couple board players in here. Darrys Rucker on like the second hole as Jake was putting, like the ball is rolling. And Darris is like some people are just born with the clutch gene. And then the ball just just missed. It was such a good line. Jake missed the putt by maybe four and a half feet left. It was so funny. It's in the video. We were like, I remember when we were watching the end, I almost like told Brennan to take it out because it was like embarrassing for

Darius, but honestly, it's going to live on that video forever. He's like, some people are just pulling with the clutch gene. And it didn't even touch. They made two bogies early as being a scramble. Like, I don't even think we played that well. If you're just saying, like, wasn't somebody's day, it was not their day as a And they're all. I'm not played with, I don't know anything about Morgan's game,

but Hardy can play. I mean, he's pretty good. Jake, Jake is obviously great. And everybody says Darius is unbelievable. So, I would honestly, like, if you ran that match back a hundred times, I'm not convinced we would win 51 times. But that day, that day, we won pretty handily. Hell yeah.

One time. Hell yeah. You're a true movie, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's sick out there. All right, Matt. Well, hey, man, I'm sure you got some, you know, some Zoom writing or some golf would be playing or something better to be on it. So we appreciate you taking the time. Hey, let's, let's swing them soon. That's why they make handicaps. Love that. Let's get out and play. We appreciate it.

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That's my answer. Yeah. I was just wondering if anybody knew because it's rare, but it does happen. I don't know why. Where's that up? Oh, man. Maybe it's just like they feel like that grabs people. You can remember it.

Like I may remember on unr-unr-l.com more than just dot-com because it's different. I'm sure there's something where they're like, where are they stationed, where are their servers, what kind of network are they on? I don't know. I don't know the answer, but I'm guessing it has something to do with that. What's the difference to net and dot com? Dot co is used as a second-level domain and the domain name system used to route internet traffic domain registrates registrants register second level domains in the form of dot CO

what a country code gig why do you go boring that's so boring why do you choose to read stuff that doesn't explain anything like that's what i don't get wouldn't you read it's not going to tell anybody anything and then decide not to read it with the tone as if like it's a lot to like take in so at that point why even say it like you're like dot co is a secondary it's like i i can't even process what you're saying right now the tone you're reading it in was like you're not going to understand what i'm about that that was audio ambient what we were listening to dot co well dot co is the domain extension that's more expensive than dot com there you go all right that that's a that's a good succinct answer the reason for the higher

price is to deter domain name buyers from purchasing domains with dot co okay all right If Dave wanted Barstall.co, it would have been more expensive. There's an answer, Jake. So my advice going forward would be read through a little bit before you just start regurgitating it in a very sleepworthy tone, and I think will be good. But I do appreciate you giving us the answer, Jake. I wasn't trying to be rude.

All good. He's mad. Dude, listen back to that. Good. Listen back to that interjection. Tell me that that doesn't sound like the most impossible thing to understand what you're even saying. Oh, for sure.

But that's kind of my M.O, my dot M.O. I'm just going to type this into the Google machine and then just read whatever it says, the first line. Exactly. From the gallery, forwardplay at varseselsports.com. That's how you email us. And we will, if it's good, read it on the show and discuss it. Austin, we talked a good amount about Mike Weir on the last show.

We were really kind of dog Mike Weir for no reason. He seemed like a great guy, but it was just a very funny contrast. Phil Mickelson out there hitting bombs and destroying 50-plus-year-old golfers, and then Mike Weir, one of those golfers. Austin said, hello, boys, quick comment story about Mike Weir that you might like. Both Mike and my mom grew up in the same town in Southern Canada. The two actually ended up dating for years all throughout high school. My mom decided to break up with him when he told her that he needed to move to the states to pursue golf.

She didn't fully understand or believe what he was telling her about his future in golf, she ended up breaking up with him and obviously found a student ended up between my dad several months later. Fast forward to about two years ago, my mom told me and my brother this story. We could not believe the fact that we both could be 10 times better at golf than we are right now if we had just had Mike Weir as our dad. Yes, we love our current dad, but come fucking on. How cool indeed to have your dad as a master's champion, first lefty and first Canadian as well. Ironically, both me and my bro play golf. left-handed just like Mike, and we both have played really well at Mike's home course in Canada.

Love how you guys ripped him a little bit, made me laugh about how I could be in Florida right now, hitting bombs with Mike Weir as my father and not freezing cold shooting 87 in Canada, a long-time listener loved the show. Now, this guy being like, my dad could just be Mike Weir is a very ridiculous thing to say. Just saying like, but, like, just get in a fight with your dad, and I was just throwing this like haymaker under his like, dad's like, persona and who he is, is like, oh, no, like, that could have been my dad. And then also the thought that you just be the same person and then, like, just swap out dad for Mike Weir is just an incredible thought on its own. I mean, yeah. Not really understanding golf or how life works.

Not to get too gross, but that's a completely different seed. You're not a, you're not you, man. You wouldn't, you're not you at all. It's totally. Right. Right. Like, who knows? Like weird doesn't have swimmers. Like, you don't know. Like, you don't know what, like, what. I said if weird isn't swimmers. Swimmers. Like, you just don't know, man.

Like, like, that's how, like, chromosomes and all that stuff works. It's the fucking, the fucking, the fucking, you want to give all the zos of the bees? Frankie? This is us telling you. Right. That's right. So, yeah, you just wouldn't, you wouldn't be you. That's not really how it.

Like, he might not be a list. His person. might be so different that he doesn't listen to this podcast, then he doesn't listen to like you, we don't get that email, like it's a butterfly effect like everything else. Also, he's not he, like, you know what I mean? It's impossible.

Mike's just starting to have a gym, so I don't know if he'd have a bull. There you go. I probably won't have a boy. I don't have it. Takes a man to make a man. It's a very funny email for that guy. That's not true actually. It's just random. It's totally random based on

just randomness. Really? Yeah. Well, I know I can't, like, I can't produce a basketball. I can't produce, like, a tall person, like a basketball player, football player. It has to be, yeah, I'm not, yeah, but you didn't say, you're talking about genetics. We're just talking about the randomness of having a male versus a female. Right.

I also meant just like a man. Like, like, I can't make a man. Oh, gotcha. You're saying you might even have produced a feminine male. Yes. Yes. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with that.

No, nothing wrong. It would be like another me, which sucks. I like that email from that guy, though. That was a very funny email. I died. I loved it. Jared, J-E-R-O-D, Gerard, Jared, Jared, Gerard, he says, me and my playing partners have a rule that we enact and we all hit our T-shots OB. If everyone does it, we all tee it up again, don't take the penalty, and we just call it a team re-tee. I know your question, yes, there have been a multiple, there have been a few times where we had multiple team retis on the same T-box.

Is this kosher? Absolutely. I think we've all been in a situation where, first of all, golf's all about just having fun and enjoying yourself. So, like, if you really want to be a stickler about the handicapped system and you should take the penalty, whatever, this isn't really about that. This is four guys out there having a good time playing golf.

And everybody has seen three balls, especially on, like, a par three with water, where, like, the first three guys hit in the water. And everyone's like, all right, fourth guy, hit it in the fucking water, please, so that we can all just read. Yeah, I like that. I like that rule a lot. The fourth guy being rooted against by his partners is hilarious. I like that very much. We did that the other day. We're on like the 14th hole even. And first three guys just like ripped it to Never, Neverland. And it was starting to become like dusk and you couldn't really see the ball, a little cold. You didn't even want to search for it. And then everybody just starts rooting against the fourth guard is shank it. And it was a par five actually. And there was a lot of people playing. So we wanted to keep up pace of the play.

So we said to him, if you shanked this ball, we'll just go up there, drop four balls from 250 out and just play from there. So it was definitely, it was multiple levels of cheating. But who cares? We're out there for the enjoyment. Yeah, but it's also, it's not cheating because if everybody just agrees to do the same thing, who cares? Right.

Eric with a K says, I know this isn't a hockey podcast, but at what age is too old to wear a jersey to a game? or is it okay if the player whose jersey you are wearing is older than you? Yeah. Frankie jumped all over that one. Right, because it was like directed at it. I've worn a Josh Bailey jersey. I wore a Josh Bailey jersey every single game like five years ago.

Every single game, same one. There's fucking ketchup stains all over the white part of the island of Jersey, the whole thing. It's disgusting. Never watched it. And then, yeah, and then like you start to meet these guys. and like for me like I don't know I think it's a little tough like I think I have to now wear retired players or like guys it's like during the playoffs this year I wore a Michael Pecka jersey

and like guys that you know like I wore a Bailey jersey one night and they got blown out and I think I burnt it they they when you like realize like Brock Nelson's like my age and he's like one of my buddies now like I can't I don't know it's like you're showing support but also it's like you can't be wearing the guy's name on your back right like I don't know I I make sorry champ were you gonna go no but I was just gonna say in like uh there's something strange about wearing a jersey of someone that's younger than you it's I don't know why but it just feels different maybe it shouldn't be that way but if if you were to put on a jersey of someone who was like two years younger than you it just feels strange yeah it's also like you're

saying, you're saying like that, that man is better than I am, which like when you're not, when you're not quite as old as they are yet, it's like, no, I still could catch up. So like, in theory, that I could, I'm looking up to that person and I could get there because they're still older than I am. When they're younger, you're just like, I'm pathetic. And that man I'm the back of my jersey is like, cucked my life. And he's so much better at it that I'm wearing his journey. But if you're big, yeah, it depends. It's probably like those people. So like when you're a kid, you, like, want to become, like, the right winger for the St. Louis Blues. But then when you get to that age, like, I still have a Richter jersey that I wear

to some game sometimes, and it's a great jersey. You got the Stanley Cup match on the shoulder. I didn't hear what you said. The Hitting area of it. Like, if I were to get another jersey. The disgusting jersey, I've seen you when it looks like the flimps the fucking remax things for the, I've seen you in that jersey before, from across the garden. So if I were to get another jersey, I would just get a range of, jersey jersey but with no name on me or is he just ignored he's like you're speaking when i'm speaking

so i honestly have no idea what you're saying well then you then you said i you said i don't know what you're saying and then you kept talking like i was trying because i was just getting my point out well i said you looked horrible in that richter jersey i've seen you at madison square guard from across the day you look you look you look like the remax blimp that drops the little 25% off your first uh your first, like, call with them or whatever, and some little blimpers around. It's like the blue and orange and the white. The sides look like the fucking,

you looked like you actually had to buy two seats at the garden. I remember looking at you. You were on that corner. I was on the other corner. I said, look at that fucking guy on the other corner. That jersey is huge on you. It's like a triple X-L. Yeah, it's a goalie jersey, man.

Massive. Go on. No, I was it. If I were going to get another jersey, it would be nameless. I don't know. I think, like, I could still see myself rocking a Brock Nelson or like a Barzell jersey even like even though like it's a little weird because I like you know these guys but strange I didn't go wait are you friends with these guys but my point is like

imagine seeing them wearing their name on the back of your jersey it feels very inferior but you're but that's such a specific instance like I that could happen anything like you're walking you're walking to your car and they're walking to their car or something that they just like see your like they see you wearing their name on the back of Jersey. It's like, wow. Like that guy's 19 years older than me. Like for a Barzell seeing like a dad wearing it, it's got to be a little weird.

I have no problem with it. I have no problem with it. I think like if that's your team and that's your guy, where are the, like that's, you're supporting your team. Also, also. Do you wear a Coraca jersey? In the situation that you laid out with yours,

like if you have aspirations, if you had aspirations to play that's for, and become pro in that sport, then yeah, maybe it is weird if you end up buying a jersey where it's like, yeah, I want to do this, but this guy is clearly better than me. But I think other than that scenario, I think I'm okay with it. Yeah, I think it's like all just how you like think about it and defend about it. Like, I think if I were to get a jersey, I'm just a fan of the Rangers now. I don't really care so much about what the players, like who the players are on the team. I just like Rangers to win. so I think he was the Rangers jersey with no name.

Jones has his eBug. Is that your plate? Is that your plate from your jersey as an ebug? Yeah, they gave it to you at the end of the year. That's awesome. I think I would rock a Brendan Jones jersey. That's what I'm saying. Thank you, Trent.

Thank you, Trent. I would wear a, I would wear a Ebug New York Islanders jersey for sure. For sure. Definitely. That'd be cool. That'd be like, that's like supporting a guy, though. Frankie's instance a little different. Like, if Frank doesn't go up with Brock Nelson, be way easier to wear his jersey,

but now that, like, Frankie's been, like, mercil to these people, it's a bit... Do you know that? Well, Rick, it's like, would you wear... Would you show up to, let's say, like, Justin Thomas invited you to, like, watch a tournament and you, like, went to the tournament? Would you wear, like, a Justin Thomas, like, a little shirzy? It's, like, team titleist on the back. It says, Thomas on the back.

And then, you know, that's different. No, that's different. Why? That's not... That's different because they don't wear jerseys on the courts. Like that's not what they do. All right, but like, it's the same shit. Like, they don't wear like, they don't wear shirzies in baseball,

but everyone wears like the fucking shirzy to a baseball game. It's like, it's just like your team, it's your player. Tiger Woods is my guy. I wore a fucking Tiger Woods outfit when I met Jack Nicklaus. Right. Tiger Woods is like older and that he's like that guy that's, that's exactly what we said. He's the ricketer. He's the fucking, he's the guy you look up to.

Everyone can rock a Tiger Woods fucking shirt. would you mimic like wearing like what bryson wears on the golf course in support of bryson like would you wear that hat his outfit his sponsors a serious setting he's like hey come for drinks after after we play at the players i want you to like meet my buddies and like you show up in a fucking yes yes i think that be incredible right but it would be like a comical thing yeah but the difference is nobody does that and go like in sports lots of people do that you go You literally go to the pro shop in the merchandise store all up and down the concourse. They have jerseys everywhere to be bought.

I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I don't know where I stand on it. I think it's fine. I don't judge anybody who has that going. That is my point, actually. I've never judged someone for doing it. So I don't know where I fall. Like I've seen millions of people wear jerseys and I like it.

Like that's what makes going to games good. I just, I've stopped wearing them recently just because of, like I'm not because of why? The older I get the less I wear jerseys. That's just a fact. I mean like I can't rock jerseys like Coley Mick. Coley Mick can wear a jersey every day. Yeah. Looks good wearing jerseys.

Yeah, I agree. I think I almost wish I could wear jerseys anytime I want, but there are specific people who are jersey people and it's not a knock on them or anything. It's just that they wear jerseys well. Glennie balls. Glennie ball is a huge jersey. I don't know if the rest of his life and be fine. Yeah.

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Tiger Woods is playing this weekend. Very exciting stuff. That would be cool. It will be cool. Frank, you down in the dumps right now? No. Okay. I thought maybe

the Jersey thing made you sad No, no, no, no, not at all. Okay. I'm making sure. I don't, you know, don't, what do they say? Don't go to sleep mad or don't go to bed angry.

This is like, don't end a podcast if you guys, if we got something to talk about. No, I, I'm genuinely trying to think of like where I stand on that, on that topic. Lurch, are you all right?

I feel like, Frank, you got under your skin with the three XL comment. Oh, my skin with that. No, I just, I wasn't, I didn't even hear. hear what you said. It's like, whatever. It's just another Frankie comment. Oh, that sounds a lot like somebody. Well, I mean, what am I supposed to react? I'm just observing. I'm just observing.

Oh, it's a podcast. Like you said something. I said something. And usually you respond. You don't like ignore the person because it's like an audio. But you said like the jersey was huge. What am I supposed to say? Like, yeah, it was a goalie. Well, I couldn't get that point across because you said, I can't hear you right now. So I said, all right, let me say it again. And then you continuously, you continue to do the thing. I think rewinding and going back through this is probably not great podcast. Oh, God. I have a friend just like you that doesn't talk about it.

Like, you just don't hear. I'll talk about it. Like I said it was a goalie jersey. What would be the better reaction, Frankie? No, yeah, the goalie jersey response was fine. That was after, that was two minutes after we talked over each other on it. My point is that you said, I can't hear you right now. So I did everything I could to get you to hear my statement.

And you continuously did the thing that stopped you hearing me. You're calling your jab. I was just trying to get to the point. I was just trying to finish what I wanted to say about the jersey. I honestly think, like, the next jersey that I'll buy will just be a nameless jersey, just because I don't care so much about the players. I just care about the team. And honestly, like, as just being a fan for the last, whatever, 20 years, 30 years,

like, you realize you just don't really care so much about the players. You know, it's like if the team wins excellent, but it's such a business that people come in and out rarely does, like, a player like, Messier stay around for a while and have like, you know, an impacting like on the on the team itself. That part I disagree with slightly. Just like, yeah, I always want to rock the emblem on the front,

but still, like I still get worked up about every single player no matter what season it is. If we get a, if we get a rental, I'll buy that jersey if I have to. Like, I still get jacked up. The players are what makes the team.

Right. I was going to say that the players, the players are the team, but one thing that I, would sort of like, I've almost, my fandom for the same with blues is almost more allegiance to the other people that are fans. Like, I almost want the blues to win because I want my brother and my dad and my boys and me to be like happy more than I care about like the management of the blues to be happy. So in that sense, it's almost like the aura and the fandom of like my

team is more important to me than the actual team. I'm buying a Brock Nelson jersey right now. Yeah, and that goes in the other side of it. Like if you're going to buy a lot of jerseys, then like, yeah, you do buy players. But for me, like, I'm just going to buy one jersey and don't, like, I'm definitely not going to buy a rent. Just be the guy. Put fucking lurch on the back of that thing.

And then you're... Lurch 0,0, like the guy from Seinfeld that put the devil's jersey. What the hell is his name? Oh, my God. Buddy. Buddy. Thank God. Buddy.

Buddy. I would get a buddy jersey. Buddy, yeah, good jersey. Quick story. Just go ahead. Quick story. My boy, one of my best friends who's definitely listening to his show right now. He is, his, I think it was like, fiancee or girlfriend of the time, now his wife, wanted to get him a blues jersey for his birthday, I believe it was, and actually asked the other guys, like, hey, I think I'm going to get his last name and his hockey number on the back of the jersey. you think that's a good idea and then we're like, yes, definitely. And so he still wears that jersey to games all the time. And every time he wears it, he's like,

you motherfuckers screwed me for life. That is such a good one. His last thing is like growing up number is like the biggest troll job and the history is for. Or like when Dwight buys Michael a jersey and it just says from Dwight on the back? Yes. 20 shit man

Frank have you settled in your mind of what jersey like wear on this jersey debate you stand? Yeah I think it's fine to wear jerseys Like I've worn jerseys I just like never really thought about it that much I think it goes just along with the person's attitude Like if you think you're going to like go and like join the team here in two weeks

Like well then you're a full-fledged idiot And just like I don't really want to be a fan with you But if you're just supporting the team and like buy jerseys I think it's great. Also, I think it reduces in our world, like the corporate environment that you feel if you're sitting at the lower seats. Like, it's great to see other people in jerseys because you feel like we're actually fans of the team and like we're excited to have a beer and actually cheer for like the hockey team rather than just, hey, it's like a corporate meeting and I'm taking my client out to this game and then do dinner. Like that sucks because then they're not going to cheer and they're just not going to get engaged with the fun and enjoy just the, athletic product that you're watching. I think as long as you get to that level, then it's great. Then I'm psyched to watch a game with you. Yeah, you got,

you see somebody at a game in a jersey on that that's a fan. I'm a person fan of the team. I spent my biggest argument about the reason why I'm flip-flopping is like, I want to be able to say that it's like cool and not wear a jersey, but then that's my biggest argument against Madison Square Garden where everyone shows up in a fucking suit and tie from their office building because they got free tickets from like the MetLife organization or whatever. And they just show up to watch a hockey game and do business. Meanwhile, they call themselves the greatest fans on Earth. They can't even go home and bring a fucking jersey

and their kid to a game. It's a big, dismayed and relax. Gardens are disgrace. Kids can't go to games. You can't be a kid. A kid on Long Island, it's like a fucking once-in-a-lifetime chance to go to the Garden and watch the Rangers play.

Meanwhile, you can go watch your favorite team. The Islanders play every single night. If we keep doing this, we're going to have to fade you out again at the end of this show. Can we fade them out? Can we fade them out? We're doing it. Oh, this doesn't matter because tomorrow.

We're doing a live stream tonight. That should be fun. Yeah. I'm pro jersey. I'm, I've decided to go to pro jersey. I'm pro-fanhood and making it a better environment at the game. I'm, I'm for that. Agreed. All right. Cool at games. We're fucking watching a sport anyway. The point is it's not a hockey podcast. So, Eric, you were right. It's definitely not. We didn't. We don't talk hockey at all on this show. We're going to leave you now,

and I hope you enjoy the golf this weekend. Watch rough and rowdy by R&R.com. It is the 23rd. And we'll be back Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. It hard.