Fore Play - Megatron & The Fishers Islanders

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

Calvin Johnson joins the show (1:18:14). We discuss entering enemy territory as a known dominant figure, playing golf with his unique frame, and the underrated Michigan golf scene. Before Megatron, the crew delves into Brooks’ PGA celebration tour, Frankie’s day playing American top-10 track Fishers Island, Trent strapping into goalie pads vs Brooke Henderson, Michael Block haters (Kirk) vs DRap, Orca Whales sinking ships, Rose Zhang going back-to-back at Natty’s, and Chimp Empire.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he was always knives to the cross the green. Bro, 100.

Now you've got to break 90s. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. we were you going to go. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 2999. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000

these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What do you have a hit with? It's ain't a hobby. Four play. It's right. Barstool Sports and by our very, very good friends at Chevy. Go to Chevy.com. Check out their EVs. They're the best Silverado phenomenal vehicle. Okay. Father's Day. We got Father's Day gear on. The boys are

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I guess it's like a mint. I'm not sure what the official. Really. Wow. No, you're looking at me, Dan. No, I'm looking at both of you and they both look white. It's like a mint. It's like a blue mint.

But I don't understand how sometimes you can be like, nah, you guys are overdoing how colorblind I am and then say something like that. I think I'm as blue as any of the same color right now. It's a light blue. Yeah. I just see white. Fiji, like underwater bungalow blue like Dave says.

This isn't going to be the most appealing description, but it's like a mouthwash blue. Yeah. Okay. It's a mint blue. But at the end of the day, what I was going to say was my buddy has this and said, do you know if Pita,

if a rowback ever told you guys if there was a limit on how many days in a row you can wear the same hoodie? Because he's never, ever in his life felt a hoodie that was as comfortable as this rowback. What do we call this hoodie again? like what's like the the um it's not like the crossover that's the unreal one whatever the name is you got to go on the website and look for the blue the aqua mint blue and you're not going to believe what that thing feels like you can go to sleep in it it's the most comfortable hoodie of all time really they're very

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so he only gets a few months of the year to play and the advice that we gave him when he was on the show which people will hear is that he's just got to move south so he can play way more golf. He's really, if you wants to get better and play more, he's living in the wrong state. I'm a Midwest guy. I know. If you live up there,

you get like four or five good months of golf. So, but he was, I mean, it's Megatron, dude, it was crazy. He's a legend. Calvin,

and this is not the actual Megatron, because I know Transformers is coming out in the movie theaters right now. So this is kind of confusing. Oh, it is. They're looking on that. Their TV screens. They're seeing all these Megatron commercials.

And then we say we have Megatron on the show. We do not have that Megatron on. What a get for a booking team. that would be though if we had to be an actual transformer on show we will fly to the ends of the galaxy fucking love megachia never seen a transformers movie what so it's the only like dumb action like guys getting shot and like crazy stupid noises like i don't like all those like action movies right you're not a john wick guy which is not a john wick guy i just can't get into i need a storyline i am a fast and furious guy i do love those so i guess that's also where i get my fix but i love like the original you

original Transformers with Shia LeBuff is just a fantastic movie, man. It's just easy, it's easy watching. Megan Fox. Pending over that car. Come on.

Wow. I feel like that was like the OG first boner. Yeah, exactly. I don't have it. It's not getting boners like crazy before there. Like cropped top thing.

She's not that my taste is above transforms because I love Fast and Fierce. I love John Wick. I love the equalizer. I love all of these. Oh, you'd love Transformers. Yeah. I just got to watch them.

Autobots. You won't believe. leave Megan Fox in this thing, Trent Ryan. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Anyway, we don't have that one on. We have Calvin Johnson. When you hear that name, Calvin Johnson, wide receiver, all time great.

He only played a certain amount of seasons. Was it like nine seasons in the NFL? He retired early. That guy could have been maybe the greatest of all time. The way that they had to double team him, triple team him, every single defense was catered to stopping Megatron. And we get all that kind of information out of them, what it was like to go up against the type of defense is. It was fun talking about that. Yeah, man.

Like he's like, he was his dominant. I'm talking to Calvin Johnson. You're thinking back to like fantasy football. He's the number one guy off the board. He's the guy in the NFL for a long time. It was like him, Larry Fitz. I mean, like it was him going against Thoreau, Revis. It was fucking, that was the NFL at that point.

Obviously, you had the Tom Brady and the Peyton Mason, but they were, Calvin Johnson was the guy that they were throwing to, like the number one name that I used to love. So talking to him was pretty surreal, actually. We've told someone, we've told people in the past week that we had Megatron on and they've been like, like, beside themselves. They're like, Calvin Johnson's on your show.

It's like the craziest name I've ever heard. Yeah, he's an eye guest. He's an absolute icon. Now he's into golf. So yeah, Calvin Johnson's coming up at the end of the show. Second half of the show. You know we've been a part of the Chevy EV family. Hopefully you've heard the big news.

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we did about an hour and a half recap, I went through all of our feelings on Brooks Keppka and Live, Ryder Cup, what it's going to mean, PJ versus Live and everything that's going on. So last two shows, if you haven't listened, make sure you listen to those. Speaking of the block party, I saw a little Dan versus Kirk,

one of my favorite rivalries on Twitter. I mean, I don't even know if it's a rivalry. I don't respond. I don't really, like, I'm not interested in getting into a back and forth with him. So he can take a shot all he wants. A quick, Dan tweeted, it seems like the general narrative from the cool kids

is that all the Michael Block stuff is too much slash actually starting to make fun of the story. Imagine being that cynical in life. Some things we can all just enjoy. Kirk Maynhan quote tweeted that and wrote, fuck off. Yeah, fuck off. That was, so you know, you know, Kirk obviously likes to poke fun at me.

It's fine. I can handle it. I'm not going to, I'm definitely not going to respond because I feel like that's going to make everything better, but, you know, it is what it is. I mean, it's funny. I know we're supposed to be like a team and the camaraderie and we all have good vibes, but I think I'm team Kirk on this one because Kirk just makes me laugh. It's not anti-Dan, but like anytime Kirk kind of does that to you, I just laugh at it. Oh, it's definitely funny.

I'm not like mad. Like, it's definitely funny that he does it. I just know that me responding will make everything 20 times worse. So, like, I thought it was funny too. I got a kick out of it. And he's going to do it again next week. I don't wait. I don't know.

I dealt with this with Ryan Whitney. Every time he tweeted at me, I couldn't even respond because any response I would have, he would respond to that. And he had so many like minion followers that every time he did it, he'd get 10,000 likes on a, on a chirp to me. And I'd get like 13. There's like a big dick Dan Rappaport like spoof Twitter account that tweets like, it's actually really funny.

It's like days until I'm inside the ropes out of Gustav. Dude, I'll be honest. I somewhat disagree with your strategy, though, because I do think if you went on Kirk's show, it would, I mean, you guys would go back and forth about whatever, but that's been the case forever. Like, if you go on there and you guys hash it out a little bit, I think it comes around a little faster for you. But if you don't, if you don't want to respond, that's, I learned that too. I learned that too. Kirk just wants you to play along. That's all I really cares about is you play along. But I do. They have a one of the spoof callers too is big dick Dan Rappaport calls it. And just the shit. It's very funny. But I, I, I, I, We just recorded the, or we just did the live, live show, definitely not recorded pre-live, live golf gambling show for a Colonial this week. And on that show, he did make some points about like Golf Digest tweeting out, who's going to play Michael Block in the movie and that type of stuff is clearly sending Kirk over the edge of like he now hates Michael Block and hates all the people that love Michael Block, which I get to a degree of like people just overdo it. They can't let it be glorious. It was glorious for a few days. I was even texting with him after like day two a little bit.

He's like, I'm so fucking over Michael Block. And I was like, I get it. I get it. And then he kept delivering. So I kept being into the hype. But eventually, like you said, like it's just you can't do it forever. It's the guy. You know, what else was like?

I see people saying he should be in the fucking masters. He's like, the guy finished 15th of the PGA championship. And he gets into the masters. What the fuck are we talking about? And I, and I think. part of his point was something that Frankie had said on our original recap show where he was saying people are acting like Michael Block isn't

a great golfer, but the things that are coming out are he plays with these pros. Sometimes he beat these pros. I know Bo Hossler was tweeting about it or putting up Insta stories. Like there is, for people who don't follow golf all that closely, I think there's this perception that he is this guy that they pulled off the street and oh my gosh,

he finished 15th of the PGA championship when that is not the case. This was like his fourth PGA championship, wasn't it? Yeah, it was his fifth and qualified for a couple majors. I didn't see the stuff about golf digest that is a little bit silly about about the masters. I just think it's like it's Wednesday. I mean, he hit the hole in one on Sunday. It's not like we're, it's like it's three weeks later and we're still talking about Michael Block. Like I would have he shoots 77 tomorrow. We will stop talking about Michael Block. But for these three days, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday,

I feel like Michael Block is fair game. I would also say that you are a golf podcast or a golf writer. And this is one of the bigger stories that has happened to the world. Yeah. Like I understand. And if there's, if other media outlets that cover just general sports are still like, they still hammer the Michael Block thing. They're like, who's going to play him in the movie? I know that was golf digest. But if everybody else is talking about it, maybe that can get on people's nerves because it doesn't go away. But in our particular lane, this is a pretty big story.

Yeah. I mean, but he's like, uh, he's blowing this whole, she's sucking this whole story's dick. Like you guys, you know you'd make fun of that. I'm like, yeah, that's why we have Dan. Dan's a little supposed to be a little different. Do his thing. He's the golf rider. He's covering it.

It's a massive story in the world. world of golf. So you do your thing. Kirk does his. He tells you to fuck off. It's all good. It's great. It's all fucking great. Uh, I got a really good chuckle out of that. Um, it's definitely funny. It's objectively funny. No, it's it's, I'm very into it. I think it's absolutely. I, I laughed out loud when I saw his tweet that just said fuck off. Because I didn't see yours at first. So I saw fuck off. Then red years and then said fuck off again in my head and I laughed very hard. I did. Just as a person who has followed sports for my whole life and I'm sure you guys saw this too. you saw that this was coming.

There was just so much coverage. And there's the people who are big Brooks guys who are like, you guys aren't talking about Brooks enough. You guys are talking about Michael Block like and you guys are ignoring Brooks. And I understand that side of it too. But I knew at some point somebody was going to turn on the Michael Block stuff. And it was going to happen. I also think it's funny that there's all these people online who just thinks,

who just think that they are like the arbiters of how the media should cover a story and acting like it's not a business. in milk state stories. Like we know, we all know what this is. You know what I mean? The days of Walter Cronkite and like, we're going to do one minute on this and we're going to do seven minutes on like,

you know, the war in whatever country. Like we're in the business of likes and engagement and that's how this works. Oh yeah, that golf digest who's going to play them in a movie? They don't, they don't really care. They but they were probably banged.

They probably got a ton of comments. That's just what it is. And half of them might have been there's no fucking way they're going to make a movie about this. And then that golf digest person that post that's already on to the next post. They're like, whatever, dude. Like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

None of it matters. Signups available for the tournament. That's right. All eight stops. Signups are available. Let me double check here. I didn't want. I shouldn't have done that.

Off, I just open. I shouldn't have done that. Dan, one of my old friends, one of my old friends from, sorry. No,

no, you go ahead. I was just going to say one of my old friends from golf, from golf digest, um, tried to call me to like talk about like this. And I was like, I'm not answering.

that phone call. Like I, I got nothing to do with this. I got no answers for you. All right. What do you want me to say? Let's move to your new job. I, we, we saw you putting up some contents, some pictures with Fafras. You've dreamed about that. I don't give anything away, but how did, fellow avid golfers alongside one of your favorite golf partner. Now is your chance. Because yeah, there wasn't a chance for the last five years. Definitely not. How did it go just like overall with, with that crew? Crew is great. Those guys are exactly what you expect them to be like. Robbie Berger is such a talent. It's kind of insane.

And I'm not saying that Fat Perez is not. But that guy, Robbie Burger, like, if he's not on SNL or movies or like, I think he's that level of fun. You just, you cannot teach that delivery. You can't teach you. It's the voice and the delivery is just there's, it's not replicable.

So it was a lot of fun. Golf course was beautiful Kesswick Hall down in like outside Charlotte'sville, Virginia. We did a little stuff for their channel. with you all this stuff for our channel. I think people are going to like it. Don't know who's going to be first to market. That'll be interesting to see.

Awesome. Is it a race? Is it an arms race? You know, that's a question for Kyle Tims and for Brendan Jones and for Alex Bush, but I don't know. Kyle Timms is producing this podcast. Kyle Tims, you can say hi from the cloud if you like. Oh, there I am.

I unmuted myself. Hi, everybody. Hey, Kyle. Let's fucking go, Kyle. Kyle's a big part of our editing and production team. And we've kind of got this system now that Brendan Jones has implemented where he hires people and then just sticks them in a fucking cave for like a year while they just edit stuff and learn the system and then their big break is like they get to go outside for a couple hours

and film something and Kyle Tim's big break I think the first one was that the Billy Horschel video is that kind of the first main one that you were there filming yeah that was the actual first one yeah that was uh that was the first time we saw he's like just pale-ass skin because he'd been inside for a year straight just editing stuff and now he's working literally working his way up out there And then he was on the Myrtle Beach shoot with the dads, too. So he was out there for that. Okay. See, let's fucking go.

We had Jared. We had a Jared. Another guy who I hadn't met before was on this shoot. I think that was his big break. And his eyes watered so bad. His allergies were so bad. He looked so stoned the entire week. And it's probably because he has allergies, but it might also be because he hasn't been outside in four and a half weeks.

Jared's a real cool guy. He wears like, he wears like pointer finger rings. and like cool jewelry. He's like a Brooklyn guy. He's real cool. Okay. He's just a cool cat, like waiting on the platform

for the train to come in. You know what I mean? Like one of those cool cats. And I really like him. Pinter finger rings, huh? I think it was a pointer finger. I think it was a point of finger. He's a really cool guy and he came out to the,

we've got a lot of things going on right now. Obviously, Dan did those videos with the Bob Doe Sports guys. We have a bunch of these bar still golfs videos being filmed and start to be edited. We did Jersey Jerry and Jared was there for that. And he had, he actually at one point, dropped the camera and that part will not be on film because he said he was laughing so hard he couldn't hold the camera like facing it at jerry thankfully we had on gopro but like he's really starting to get a feel

for just like how much fun those shoots can be but like it was it was an introduction to like he got to just power through the laughing you know what i mean he's like dude like i like literally dropped the camera he was crying he was in heavy yesterday because he was in heavy yesterday because he's an old school bob bob fan and he was saying that he used to be like in the patrions like when is that how he pronounced when they used to do the live shows. And Bob was like, ah, and I'm like, don't get any ideas, Bobby's on our team. It's on our fucking team. Just checked all venues.

The Golf Digest Open have open spots still. So just if you're looking to sign up. It's a joke of an event. It's a joke of an event. I'll tell you what's not a joke. I'll tell you what's not a joke in event is the Barstow Classic. And there was the first one in Iowa. How was that?

It was awesome. It went so well. It was really a lot of fun. A couple people I knew in the field that I didn't know were signed up. There was a guy, Luke Wrecker, who was a star for Iowa basketball who was there. And I was like starstruck. When he came up to the putting contest, I was like, are you Luke Rucker? He was like, yeah.

I was like, what's up to? He's like, I live in Iowa City now, whatever. So it was great to meet him, took a picture with him. A guy, Josh, who I went to high school with, haven't seen him in 15 years, was in the field. It was great to see him. It was just awesome, man. Finkbine was great. The staff there was great.

everybody had a really good time the greens were tough the pins were tough people were saying that but we're fine with that everybody's playing the same golf course fucking golf tournament yeah no i i would love to and you know this is a conversation for us i would love to go back there again that is it was so much fun people were like we were going back there absolutely yeah absolutely yeah so it was a blast thanks thanks everybody came out we should do one and everybody's you know everybody should have a home home spot i think we pretty much do at this point but it's kind of a no brainer it is fun when you see a bunch of people you didn't know uh it was very wholesome seeing you up there doing the announcements at Iowa, Trent, it's lovely to see.

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Last night he's at the heat game. He's just going everywhere with the Wanamaker, that big-ass trophy. Was he shit-faced? He didn't blink for like two and a half minutes. It might be a different stimulant. Consensus was, yeah, that he wasn't just perfectly sober, I guess.

And you could draw whatever conclusions you want. But from even the night before he was on, yeah, it was a wild clip. I was a wild clip. I'm going to watch these guys. Guys, fuck to play some hockey right now. But I enjoy that I enjoy when a guy like Brooks is just out there and up front with celebrating his victory. We see it a lot like Morikawa is a guy that comes to mind of like he's pretty muted and quiet and he's not like public with getting if he's celebrating.

If he does celebrate, if he does go out. The fact that Brooks Kevka right after he won was like, I'm going to get shit faced and he's talking about part of my take. I'm chugging out of the trophy. and then you literally see him the next two days instead of just sitting at home with his with his wife or hey whatever he's out of the padders game in an interesting state of mind he's at the heat game

he's just celebrating i like that people just fucking celebrate when they win a major like that so kudos to brooks keppka i saw a really interesting hypothetical this guy matt wiley tweeted if brooks kebka went back to the pga tour he would be the biggest star in golf by like a million miles yeah i mean he's had a great year he wouldn't have been the biggest but he's had a fantastic year. He probably would have won two pretty big elevated events the way he's been playing.

He's obviously been doing well on live. He would have had a massive, massive year. Like I feel like if people, if people, if he went back, people like, because there's still probably some people who don't like him for that move. It feels like everyone else likes him who's, who's not about that. If he decided, because I remember there were those rumblings before that, you know, maybe he wasn't feeling great about it. He said at the Masters that if he was playing better, it would have been a harder decision.

I just think like, I'm not saying that he should or he should. But I think if he went back, if that was any sort of any probably won't now because he's got five majors. But like his stock, it's more of a comment on how high his stock is right now. I don't know, man. Like it's not like when he was winning those four majors in two years that he was a bigger star on tour than Rory or Spieth. Like, I don't think he was. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like something about this.

I think the comeback. I think the Netflix. I think, you know, him admitting that he, the live stuff was sort of because he was, I just feel like everyone loves a comeback story. and I feel like his stock has probably never been hired despite doing something that was so polarizing just a year ago. I do think the story of him leaving live and coming back to the PJ tour would be obviously a huge story. And there might be people who are like, all right, I'm back in on this guy because he clearly just admitted that it wasn't. He didn't make the decisions for the right reasons to steal something from The Bachelor. But now he's back.

He's still old Brooks. Let's get behind this guy. I don't know. I don't know if he'd be the biggest star. I don't know a guy that got booed on the first tee. like last week. But those people I think would flip maybe if we're if in the context of this, those people were booing because he's a live guy.

Now I don't know if that's true or not. But those people would be like, oh, wow, he came back to the PJ tour. Those booze would cease. I didn't think he'd ever have a path back to the PGA tour, but after seeing Rory like kiss his neck and congratulate him, that was like the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. Did you guys see Rory legitimately like. Yeah, he said something really gentle in his ear. Oh my God.

And then gave him like that, that guy like, shrug on his shoulder that like that squeeze right on top of the shoulder the the the double squeeze it's like buddy you'll be hearing from me tonight like in a touch i actually thought the most interesting part of that and the whole thing was interesting but it was when brooks was walking away and he's like i'll give you a shout later so like what are they talking about on the phone later like what are they saying on in that phone call that they can't talk about in front of the cameras that all is very interesting it is funny i do want to say that um winning really does cure everything because we shit all over Brooks Kepko when he was in Nashville for his bachelor party, going

crazy and partying and being out in public. And we were like, this is kind of weird. Like, what's this guy doing? You add a trophy to that and it's like, this is the coolest shit ever. Yeah. Big time. I just want to be open and honest about that. Tiger Woods taught us that lesson many times in his career.

If you just win, if you win tournaments that we consider a big deal and then you celebrate and you drink out of the trophy that you won, we're fine with it. But if you do all those things and we have a. seen you in a while, we think you have a problem with it. There's something wrong with you. But if you have a trophy, everything's fine. I remember with Bryson, it was like that before the U.S. Open, it was like everyone was just dunking on him. And then overnight it was like, you have to respect him.

You have to respect his grind and what he's done and how much of a trailblazer he is. Hold a trophy and you can do just about anything. He like led the field and strokes gained off the T, even though he's dialing it back now at the PJ Championship. So, you know, shout to to Bryson, by the way. Just, I don't know if we talked enough about how he, just switch directions. He just went from beefing up, hitting the ball eight trillion miles, and went in the

U.S. Open and trying to drive the green on the fifth hole at Bay Hill and driving the first green at the Ryder Cup at Whistling Straits and going crazy making an eagle to now he has just gone the other way, slim down, and it's like, yeah, it's all about finding fairways. It's just, it's hilarious.

It also kind of makes you think that all the protein shakes are kind of a waste. Like, you can find speed without becoming... He still has a ton of speed. And he was saying that It's like fast twitch muscles. And he's saying, because like, remember Jamie Sedlowski? He was kind of like the OG long drive guy. He was not like that big.

It's about like training your twitch muscles or something. Well, look at a guy like Maddie fits. He's not all that much bigger than he used to be. And he pipes the ball now. So part of me just thinks Bryson was like, I want to look huge and jacked. And I'll just act like I'm hitting the ball further when I can just hit the ball as far when I'm skinny.

It was jarring seeing his jaw line this week. Like, like there, he was doing a couple of interviews with Amanda Ballionis, where like from the side and like he had a jaw line that I hadn't seen in like at least three years. He looks 10 years younger. He's a handsome cat. He's a handsome cat. He's a pretty handsome guy. He too like he just looks healthier. He looks like every part of him looks better. He looks normal. He looks like hell. He just looks like a normal. He's like healthy before. You know, nobody looks at a bodybuilder and goes, there's the picture of health. You don't, you know, you look at you're like, oh my gosh. Like that's some sort of mutant that is trying to lift as much weight as they can. And then it's sustainable. your joints are going to fall apart. It's a disaster.

Yeah, but it's a disaster. Good to see his jawline. Shout to Rose-Zang. So we got the NCAAs going on here. NCAA championships. She has now, she won, she was four shots back going to follow around.

I actually watched the whole thing the other night. It's that Greyhawk. That's where I, that's kind of my home course around here. I'm there all the time. I know the course really, really well. It's always cool.

And you know the course. You get to watch it on TV. She was tied for the, essentially, the lead in wins for collegiate, Stanford especially, with Tiger Woods and Patrick Rogers, I believe. They had like 11 wins. It was like Tiger had 11 wins in like 20 something starts. Patrick Rogers, 11 wins and like 45 starts, something along those lines. She had 11 wins and 19 starts. And I believe now she has 12 wins, the record, in just 20 starts in college golf. She's a sophomore.

Those wins also include two NCAA individual titles, the Augusta National Women's Amateur, and a few other very prestigious ones on top of like a handful of collegiate wins. So she came back from four shots, I believe, in the final round. I don't think she made a single bogey. She wasn't a scoreboard watcher either. She was just kind of slow, steady, made a handful of birdies while other people kind of fell down, made a couple mistakes, got it done, one back-to-back national championships. I believe she's the first ever woman to win back-to-back NCAA women's individual title.

So she's just an absolute badass. She's going to go out there and win on the LPGA tour. So that's a name people. I'm sure I've heard here and there, but now you're really going to want to hear it because, you know, the writing's probably on the wall. We'll probably see her out there relatively soon in professional golf, see her on leaderboards.

If she does do even another year of collegiate golf, she'll be up there very soon on major championship LPGA. board. So she's an absolute badass. And then all the collegiate golf is on golf channel. It's on Wednesday night. It's on this next week. The men have a couple of practice rounds, a couple individual rounds. And then you'll see them doing the individual finals and the match play at Greyhawk as well. So again, reminder to watch on golf channel. With Rose-ang, I think it'd be really big for women's golf in this country to have another massive superstar like on the level of Nelly Cora. Stars drive the game. And Danielle Kang is a big star. And Lexi-Tan,

Thompson's been a big star, and Nelly Court has been a big star. So to add another American to that mix, I think, would be really big for the growth of the women's game in this country. Shout Danielle Kane. We should get her back on the show suit. I miss Daniel King. We haven't had the people's women's golfer on in a while. We played her in a scramble match a couple years ago.

It was the last time we really hung out with her. She actually stayed at my pie in her house during the women's open last year at pie needles. Amazing person, by the way. We had, this was, God, this was a year ago. so we were very early and like renting it out and all that. And we had a group in there the weekend before. And she arrived on like Sunday night for the U.S. women's open at Pine Needles.

And I guess the cleaning crew that we had, would you drop your phone, Frank? Yeah. The cleaning crew that we had. I don't think it was a crack noise. You know when you know if it was a crack noise. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

The cleaning crew that we had come in, they had come in, seeing that people hadn't left the house yet. So they left. They just decided to come back the next day. Well, Danielle King came in that night, arrived at the home. And literally, they were like empty beer cans and shit all over the place. And me and my brother completely panicked.

And we're like, I'm so sorry. We'll get you hotel rooms like, holy shit. It's a major championship week. She didn't respond for a couple hours. Then she texted us back. It was like, guys, it's totally cool. Me and my mom just cleaned the house. Now we're going for a walk.

Thank you so much for having us at the house. So she's just the best person. I love Danielle Kang. Last time I saw Daniel Kang was at the Lake Nona LPGA event that we all played in the in the event, I guess. And I'd gotten like four hours of sleep the night before because I was so nervous about playing. I wasn't out partying anything. I was literally in bed staring at the ceiling being like, oh, my God, I'm going to screw this entire thing up.

And I saw Daniel Kang on the putting green and she just messed with me for 45 minutes. I was looking for comfort and someone to say, it's going to be fine, you know, whatever you shoot, it's not going to matter. And she was like, is a big deal. She was like, you better play well. You better hit a good tee shot when you tee off. And I had to switch putting green because she was making me. so nervous. So we love Daniel Kahn. Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It is the golf capital of the world. It was recently

voted America's favorite buddies trip destination. They got over 70 golf courses there. They've got something for every price points. If you're going to reach out to us and be like, fellas, here's the deal. I'm on this budget. I'm on a tight budget. I want to go to a place that's a great golf course. Great buddies golf destination. We're just out of college. We don't have a ton of money. Here's a amount we're about to spend. Myrtle Beach is your answer. You can do it on a tight budget. You can splurge and go crazy. You can stay on the beach. You can stay in a golf course villa. You can go to all kinds of different restaurants. You can like rip apart

shrimp as a giant communal crew. You can go to a nice steakhouse. You can go card and you can do anything in Myrtle Beach. That's why it's the number one buddy's golf trip destination in this great country. It's also on the ocean. And I know that's going to sound obvious for people who know that. But you know, you hear about California, you hear about Florida. You hear about all this all this ocean side stuff. And Myrtle Beach is on the ocean. When we were there with our fathers, we stayed on the ocean. You go outside and you see the ocean. It's fucking beautiful.

And there's a ton of golf course. There's a ton of restaurants there. If you get a group of buddies together and you go to Myrtle Beach, I guarantee that you will have fun. I guarantee it. It's the best. There's just so many options for golf buddies trips now. Like golf has exploded and all these resorts have popped up. You go online.

You look at some of these places and they're booked for three, four years, you feel like. You can't get out. It's the travel's a nightmare. You're in the middle of America. You're in Iowa. You're at Finkbine. You're talking. You're texting with your buddies that you haven't seen in 15 years.

You're looking at the basketball player. They used to play for Iowa Hawkeyes. And you're like, I want to. The entire Iowa classic experience. And you're like, I want to. And you're like, I want to go on a buddies trip with these guys. Let's go somewhere really cool. And it's like a last minute decision.

Like, oh, should we go this fall? I'm telling you right now. Myrtle Beach is number one, when it comes. comes to that decision. It is affordable. It is getting there is super easy. They always have options for you. All these golf courses are so accommodating. The stays are incredible. You're on the ocean. The restaurants are great. The bars are fantastic. There are so many things to do. The entertainment is through the roof. I'm, I'm not even kidding. I know we've done a lot of Myrtle Beach stuff this year. And it seems like we're just like a shell for these guys where it's like, we're just going to

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Wow. What an experience from beginning to end, really. I don't know how it's considered New York. I guess it's right. It's in international waters. I mean, it's in between Connecticut and New York, but it's got the New York zip code. So I went with the, it was just a crazy day. I ended up going with Brock Nelson, Anderson, Andersley, and Kyle Palmary, three of just

like the top players on New York Islanders. Obviously, for me, that's a huge deal. Lucky enough to become buddies with these guys. So to get that invite was insane. Thank you, Matt Martin, for not playing and dropping out at the last minute. That was a huge, huge dropout in addition for me. me. Yeah, these guys, so we drive all the way kind of around New York and through Connecticut and you go over into this, I don't even know how you say it, like, Nia, I don't know how you say the town,

but there's a little town on the water, basically across from Fisher's Island on the Connecticut side. And you meet this guy, Wild Bill, is who we had to ask for. So you're like, you pull up to this shack and there's a guy outside and Brock rolls on the window. And he's like, yeah, we're looking for the boat. And he's like, who are you looking for? Poppy? And he goes, no, wild. And he goes, you got them. And just like starts unloading the golf bags out of our car. And he throws them on this little white boat, just that fits three people on it. And he's like, you all ready to go?

He said, yep. And he had some seats ready for us. He dried them all off, kept them in the sun. And he just fucking rips over to Fisher's Island. I'm talking a nine minute boat ride just ripping, contacts flying out of your eyes. You're getting soaked. And you're like, this is a crazy. Like, we're going to golf right now.

What time the morning is. this. What time is it at this point? I mean, I woke up at 4.45 a.m. This was probably at like 8 o'clock in the morning. So like 7.45, 8 and maybe even earlier, 7.30. And you're just like, how often are you playing golf where you just roll out of bed and like you go, you get in the shower, you get in your car, you go to the range. And it's very like methodical. You're, I'm on a boat holding on for my life. I'm like, we're about, we're going straight to the first tea right now. This is insane. So we're all, you know, nerves were high. You see. in a very Bay-owned way, you start to see the golf course come up as he slows down and you see

it just all right there. The property of Fisher's Island is just, you can't believe they have a golf course there. It's surrounded by water. Every hole has water around it. What is it? Like 16 out of 18 holes have a water feature somehow, some way as mixed in. So you go there. They have carts waiting for you at the end of the dock. You're just getting a cart by yourself. You rip it up to the clubhouse. and now you're just there. The clubhouse is immaculate. The people working there are so nice. I did say at one point it felt like you're definitely like on like a secluded island.

It felt like these people like don't talk to people that often. I don't know. It's just like every interaction was kind of like they're just like so happy to see people. It sounds like Gulf Shutter Island. It is. I looked up the population. The year round population of Fisher's Island is 236. Dude, it's crazy.

So I'm like, is there a range? They're like it's two miles down the road. But like if you want to like make it happen. And I was like, stop, like, it's fine. They were like trying to figure out to get us there. We're like, we're fine. We don't need to hit any balls. We go and chip, we put.

And then you're just on the first team, man. It's crazy. You're just there immediately. Balls are in the air nine minutes after Wild Bill was ripping you across the sound. And you're just in one. So we had a nice match. First hole's immaculate. You know what you're about to get.

The place is pristine. It has that like Long Island on the water look. Like, I know like lead, like a very public golf course in on Long Island is called Lido, which is the second iteration of the OG Lido Golf Club, which was like the most prestigious country club of all time. Now it's just like a public kind of dog track on the water. But it always had that same kind of vibe where it's like the type of grass that's there. It seems like it's the only type of grass that can exist on a water golf course in the northeast. I'm not sure what type it is, but like the marsh looks the same.

But this place is just different, man. You can tell why it's a top whatever it is in the world, not just coming in the world. not just number nine according to the people that run the golf digest open it's ranked number nine in the rankings in the country that's fucking crazy single digits my friend dude it's it's it's there man every hole is memorable and i i had a nice hybrid a nice hybrid off one just striped right down the middle got it to the front of the green ended up making five because i three put but at the end of the day i'm having a fine day the only thing that i would say that i didn't like about my experience every single hole was in incredible. One, two is incredible. Three is insane. Nine, four, four, it's like the best four ever. Grow, the punch bowl on four is like, what are we talking about? Five is crazy. Six. It's, I can go through every single one. I'm remembering each hole. Nine is insane. Nine is like off a cliff. And they're all, and they're all seven. Ten. Ten's insane. We're talking. Eleven. Eleven's nuts. Twelve is even crazy here. Four. Well, wait and take it. Tell me there's 18 of these things. Fifteen might be the

about a toll. Fifteen. Fifteen. Fifteen. 16, 17, 17, 18 holes in Fisher. What a finisher. We had two mistakes at Fisher's Island. Number one was we didn't have a member or caddy there. So we're flying blind with four guys. Oh, you didn't know where to hit. Yeah.

Seth Rainer golf course on the water, you have no idea where you're going. I would say, and I don't know what the number is, but maybe 30 to 40% of the holes have a blind T shot, like over a crazy mound. Beyond that mound, you don't know if the hole was left or right. Like, there were times, like, four, we're like, I think I've heard the story. that it goes to the right. Like, there's supposed to be a huge, like, like, a light flagpole behind it. But, like, we couldn't really see it. So we're, like, I think this goes right.

We're, like, ripping drives, not knowing where it's going. So a lot of that, which I think affected our scores, not to make any excuses. But, like, there were a couple moments where, like, all four of us lost drives because we hit it over a mound. And then you go over the mound, and it's like, it's water and marsh. And you're like, fuck. So now you're, like, dropping them on the fairway hitting four because you're not going back to the T.

And, like, you're making a six. So, like, there was making a six or seven. at best. So there was a lot of moments where that was happening. I think that took away from the experience on the playing side. If I could go back now that I know every single hole, I would fucking go crazy to play that golf course again because you're so taken away by the views. It's Pebble Beach of the Northeast. It really looks like it. There's cliffs. Like there's legit the same types of like cliffs and rock formation that Pebble Beach has. It just doesn't have the seals that are like oinking next to you. And I was just taken back the entire day. I took a million photos.

Every single guy in our group took a million photos. The second mistake we had that we made was we didn't get the iconic sandwich that everyone talks about because we couldn't find the halfway house. We just like we just didn't eat the whole time. We just couldn't find the halfway house. We were out there alone. We went up to one house that was a house. Like we thought that was the house and it was a house that someone was living at.

It was like this house. It was a house. I was like walking up to the door. I'm like, this is not it. Boys, this. I'm watching at someone reading the newspaper. It's not a halfway house. There's no hot dogs in here.

They have this iconic sandwich that's a PB&J with bacon on it. And even in the pro shop, they sell T-shirts. That's a PB&J with bacon logo on it. And it's supposed to be the most iconic sandwich of all time. We even went to the cart person and said, could you go to the club out? Could you go to the halfway house and just grab us as many of them as you can? She said, no.

She said, no. She said, you know what she said? She said no. We looked at her. I was like, I actually, I was like, why? Why can't? Why? It was like 40 year old virgin where you have those shoes. I was like, I literally held up money. I said, I have this money that I'm willing to give you a lot of to go get those PB&J sandwiches. Can you drive this cart? Act like you're just driving it to like another hole. Like just go take this golf cart and go to that halfway house. Meander in there. Purchase a bunch of these sandwiches and then come back to us. And then we'll just give you even more money for doing that. And she looked at it. She goes, no. That's not a lot of money on Fisher's Island. Fisher's Island money is different money.

So we didn't get the sandwich. We did have the rum punches, which are also like the famous, like, duo. You get the rum punch. You get the PB&J and bacon sandwich. You're supposed to have the best day of all time. We did not. We had a great match. I hit like a 10 foot or like 15 foot uphill kind of left to right put to push the match all

square. Me and Brock, the lefties, verse Kyle and Anders, the righties. I ended up beating Brock and my solo with that putt. So like everything came down to the 18th hole. We didn't play that great. a bunch of high 80s, but like everyone broke 80. We all felt pretty, everyone broke 90. We all felt pretty good about it.

We need another crack at that place because fuck, man, when you don't know where you're going at an all-time golf course like that, it kind of takes away from the playing experience. Seth Rainer's a motherfucker. Do it this summer. I want to get back out. I played, uh, I know he is. I know he is. A lot of blind T shots is.

He loves that shit. But I played it. The only time I played Fisher's, I played with Link's gyms, our boy John Cavalier, a fantastic podcast guest. He has an insane write-up on this place. Every single hole he's written it up. And Anders kind of wrote down little notes in a notepad. And Anders would give us his spiel on every T.

Unfortunately, he never told us where the hole was going in any of these write-ups. He would just write the 10th hole. The green repels all balls front, left, and right of the pin. So then every time we'd hit into the green, we would just be like, repel! And the ball would repel off the green. And we all would end up coming short. Dude, I'm telling you, we scream. repell like 19 times like the ball would be going out like dude that's on the stick and then

anders from across the barrage go repel and the ball would repel off the green to 60 yards away and you're like what's happening out here uh he uh i played with him and his father one time like probably four or five years ago and it was amazing beautiful day but the greens were punched so it's not like that place isn't it's luckily it's not a course that is a wing foot or an oakmont experience where the whole thing is kind of the greens are unreal complex. It's a T to green kind of course with the views and with the wild, you know, template holes and all that. So it didn't ruin the experience at all. We still had a great match as well.

But same kind of way, Frankie, where I'd like to go and have a full pure fishers experience because that plays, you know, I just looked on again, golf digest, Dan's friends that do the open, which is still available spots, all eight stops. The number nine, it's ahead of Pebble Beach. It's literally ranked at a pebble beach in their rankings. I'm telling you, it's a special layout. Like every single hole you're like, this is, I said after 11, I looked at Brock, I said every single one of those holes is just as memorable as playing Pebble for the first time. Like you're thinking back to four and you're like, that's just six at Pebble. Like you're just like, you walk up this huge fucking hill.

And it's just, you just can't believe that this place exists. Yeah. And I played it once and I told you guys, it was the foggiest day that I've ever played golf and at a place like that it just rips you of all the view so it sounds like we all kind of need another crack at this place yeah we all need to get one of the best plays plays in the world yeah we all need to get a crack at pine valley four of us i think i agree i have that one photo of them i think it was on three of anders and brock walking up to the green and it was the indifery that was a great so sick that will probably end up on my back wall at some point i think

that was an amazing picture is it weird to print that of two other people no because dude you're gonna in 40 years you're gonna look back and be like i've played with these islander I play with these Islander grates at this incredible golf. Picture is going to get cooler and cooler with every passing year. When did you think of that caption? Did you think of that caption before or after you woke up that day? I thought of it as I was looking at the photos and I said it to the guys we were on the boat back. And I was like, what a day, Fisher's Island.

And I was like Fisher's Islanders. And they started laughing. And then Brock's like Fisher's Island dur's because they called Durr and Durr's Durs. And it was all perfect. It all kind of worked. It's a perfect caption. It's nice. Dude, with that photo in the future like dancing, you can Titanic, the movie, the movie,

yourself into that. You'll see it and then you'll kind of like reenter that you were the one that took that photo. You'll remember walking up that fairway. Yeah. I do have a lot of photos of them all walking like 150 yards ahead of me on my phone. I was like, was I just really slow all day. I don't understand why I was in the position to take all these. Like that photo, they were 150 yards ahead of me. I don't know what I was doing on that creed. I was, I was glad you had the one video on your Instagram story of your swing because you, I could tell, I could see from how everything was unfolding that you had a day like I have a lot with my buddies where you're the only one taking photos of pictures the whole day and you're sort of like is anyone going to like get like you take

something to me like a me maybe yeah I know for my rest of my life that'd be cool yeah luckily this was such a beautiful place and the sun was perfect and the weather was perfect that they all were taking videos like I have a bunch of stuff um but yeah it was uh it was a day for the books man that was uh fisher's island there's no denying that that that the ranking is true like no way shape or form did I feel like it was too high ranked or it was too overhyped or anything. Every single aspect of it was amazing. That's unreal.

I'm so giddy about this summer about being back in New York to play New York tri-state golf. Like there is just, the New England golf is so fucking good. It's insane. Like playing fishers, playing sleepy, playing a bunch of the different Long Island

course. Quaker Ridge. Quaker, I've never done Quaker. we're lucky enough to sneak out. Frankie's invited. We snuck out there. We did. We snuck out there. I can't believe you two were allowed on proper.

What kind of disguise did you guys wear when you played out there? I mean, I don't even remember, but I can't believe that we were presented with the opportunity to get out. We had to follow all the mowers and the and the, uh, the, the, uh, the blowers because they, we had to blend in with the maintenance. So they were saying if we just drive our cart to the right of the people that were maintaining the golf course and they never saw who we were, then we were fine. Dude, I'm looking at, I'm just looking at top Seth Rayner courses, Fox Chapel, which I've played, which is like 10 minutes away from Oakmont in the Pittsburgh area, is same kind of way, a bunch of like template holes. Seth Rainer. Also, St. Louis Country Club, which is like the most prestigious place in St. Louis that doesn't get talked about enough because they have all the major championships at Belarief. I played it once like 20 years ago before I had any idea what any of this stuff was.

I didn't know it was Seth Rainer. I didn't know it was like considered cool architecturally has back-to-back par threes at St. Louis Country Club. Yeah, man. We got back-to-backer. Part 3's at Quaker Ridge, too. Nine and 10, Quaker Ridge, par 3s, but it's on Seth Rainer. That's how it is at Rockville too, right?

Nine and 10. Really? Yeah. Par 3's? Yep, nine and 10. So Rockville has par 5 on 8. Yep. Par 3 on 9.

Par 3 on 10. Par 5 on 11, which is crazy. it's a good stretch it's like 5335 which i fucking love that's sick that's sick i love that a bunch of scoring there dan you got to go yeah i'm playing sleepy hollow today and it's a nice day which there's not there's not much better than that so i'm off that's a top 10 for me that's a top 10 course i've ever played sleepy hollow i fuck of those template that redan are you reverse redan i love all that shit redan radan radan rapaport are you still trying to qualify for the man amateur that's going to be there yeah that's the plan i got to let you

lesson from Mark Blackburn. Guys, an absolute genius, fixed my golf game in about 30 minutes. So we'll have some content for you guys on that front very shortly. Love it. Baby, this could be considered a practice round in Sleepy Hollow today. Dan Grapport's playing Sleepy Hollow today.

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Okay. Okay. I got a couple other things to address. Let's see. I put on my notes. I put on my notes here. I did purchase a hoodie yesterday at Fisher. his island and I wasn't going to get it because it was quite expensive. But the guy behind the

fucking counter was like, he looked at me and just goes, get it. Like under his breath. He saw me looking at multiple colors. And I heard a faint just get it. And I was like, serious? He goes, I'm telling. And I was like, I looked at him like, he's serious. He's like, dude, he's like, you're a fisher. Like, get it. And I was like, fuck, man. Dude, that's how I felt at Carnusty. I was looking at all these hoodies. And I was like, am I getting, there's so many, I don't know what to pick. It's a little pricey. But then in my own head, I said, dude. it. And I bought it. And I bought it. And I was so, it was very, and I, I kind of like, I kind of like, I walked up to the club. I walked up to the little camera. I'm like, all like, all like,

under my breath. I'm like, you talk to me into this shit. He's like, aren't you happy though? I put it on. And we're all like, oh, they were going crazy. Like, ah, don't fucking talk to me about it. Was it, was, uh, was it, can we guess how expensive it was? Oh. Yeah. Yeah, you could. Yeah, you could guess. I'm going to say, I mean, you said it like it's expensive and like that. I know, I know, but think of a hoodie. It's expensive. It's expensive hoodie. Dude.

I'm going to say, I'll say 200 bucks. Yeah, dude. It was like $205. Oh, wow. Wow. That's good. It's expensive. It's worth a good, a good, a good hoodie.

A little clothing item is worth it. Oh, yeah. That's nice. Dude, golf course logos. Is there anything cool than golf course logos? And Fisher's Islands up there. It's just that like raggedy ass thin island and you're like, where's that?

And you're like, it's fishers, man. It's fucking fissues. Yeah. It's really good. Did you save your pencil? Hopefully you saved your pencil. You know, I did save my pencil. So maybe I can start this whole thing now.

I'm going to have to go way back. I'm going to start ordering them online, the place that we've gone. Can you just do that? I know. I know. I don't know if you can order them online. Maybe pencils? I don't know if they just have like.

Messing the pro shop and just say send me one. I will say, I noticed that once I started talking about on the podcast, I started getting a ton of messages, emails being like, I work at so and so or I'm going to so and so. I'll just get a pencil and send it to you. So that'd be great. Thank you. Wow. Have you made, are you only putting pencils in a places you've played?

That would make sense, right? Yeah, the only exception is the guys at Oak Hill gave me a pencil while we were there. So my whole board, it's like 100 spots or something. I don't have 100. I probably have 60% of them. And so I'm starting a column on the top left. That's just cool pencils of places that I haven't played until the whole board is full of place I have played. then those will get removed.

Then you have to make your own top 100 with the pencils in order. That's a sick day. I get the feeling we're going to play O'Kill at some point. I think we will too. I want to go to Roger. Wow, that looks awesome. That's a great little momentum thing to have. Isn't that really cool?

And then this just... It's so easy. Look at this puppy. Extremely jealous of that. To get the glass out, put new ones in. Yeah, why are you shaking? Stop shaking it, dude. Slide it out.

Oh, like that? I was worried that you were going to knock them all out. I guess I don't know how secure that. I would have them exposed almost. I don't even know if I would put the glass on it. You think that's cool? I think it's cooler just exposed. You can kind of rub your finger on it.

Dude, how cool are fucking golf pencils, dude, with all the fucking different colors and they're way better than Ed Mangano's. Aaron Hills, Big Cedar, Prestwick. Presswick is a good one. Did you take one from Presswick? Dude, I found it in my bag that I used that whole week. I was going through when I moved all my shit. Why did I not do this?

We've gone to the coolest places ever. How about the press wig, dude? I jumped around in circles in my apartment yesterday when I found the presswick what. I was like, ah, let's go. Because you realize these little pockets in your golf bag that you just stuff shit, I was going through.

How many times I get thrown out a pencil? I'd probably thrown out. So many cool pencils. Frankie's played an MPCC. He's like, I'm not going to need that thing. Literally. Played it twice, I think.

Leaving it in the cart. Just flicking it. Yeah, dude. Breaking it after a miss fucking putt. No, rigs, that's using it. What you got going on there is good.

I'm using it up to do like the dozen trivia show bonus rounds. What's that? Musselboro. Wow. Where we use the old, the old hickory ones. Yeah.

Yeah, dude, that one's right in the middle. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, these things are a great call. I had no idea how cool and excited I would get over pencils. But yeah,

this thing delivers. All right. Wow. All right. Oh, you know another one I found? What? Another one I fucking found, boys.

Let's see it. Oh, can you guys? Bailey Farm. Michigan. Sick. Yeah, dude. It's got,

it's got like his website on there, which I love. I like that. I love it. Yeah, what's it's insane? Traverse CityGolf.com. So yeah, this thing is really. cool. Really, really, really cool.

Do we have a video coming out? Is it tonight? I would assume. But it's our tonight. Yeah. We've got Brooke Henderson. I think it's Wednesday night. I think it's tonight. I think it's tonight. So if you're listening to this, it just came out last night on our YouTube page, Brooke Henderson hitting stingers against Trent Ryan, who was in hockey equipment. One of my favorite moments. One of my favorite moments of anything we've ever done.

Obviously Canadian. She's a huge star. Hockey. you know hockey family hockey is part of their culture for sure and we were talking to her a little bit about hockey she was a Ottawa Senators fan was is that what she was maybe maybe dude she's like a top three biggest athlete or five in Canada they love I know it's huge

it's huge so we've got that video she was awesome and then we just ripped we just started ripping as many low four iron three iron stingers as we possibly could as hard as I could scare I was going literally as hard as I could at Trent from maybe 35 40 yards away. So trying to go top shelf on a hockey net. It's one of our funny, just goofy videos. Obviously, it's

not going to change the world in regards to the game of golf, but it's a fun video, good vibes. Trent Ryan's sweating his fucking ball sack off in this hockey gear equipment. And yeah, it's a great video. I had a lot of fun doing it. It's really good. It was scary. Leading up to the video, we had

to take a bunch of rubber bands and wrap them around the eye holes of the hockey helmet because we didn't want me to take a TP5X. in the eye, which was good. I wish I did not end up happening, but it was, it was fun. Once I got in net, I felt, oh, yeah, there's the thumbnail right there. It's a great thumb.

After you get a couple shots ripped at you, you get more comfortable. And I was, I was snagging them. I was taking them in the chest. Happy Gilmore style. So, yeah, check that video out if you haven't. Dude, us tying like, what are those little, what are the little plastic tie things that you use for like a bag of a loaf of breeder? that you kind of put on zip ties us putting those zip ties across your fucking eyes Trent

and trying to make sure you just didn't lose an eye socket while we were filming this video is probably probably the least comfortable I felt because it was like if this fails oh it's it's I mean it's over it's like the worst thing we also got the equipment from do we get it from a PJ tour golfer a Canadian PJ tour golfer didn't we pick it up from his house yes yes so It was the whole thing. Canadian PGA tour golfer and I just can't think of his damn name. Look at this guy's that gear.

Brendan went to his house and he wasn't even home. He had to like go in his garage and get it. Yeah, his wife gave gave us the equipment. No, it's a fun video. Like Frankie's saying, it's not going to change the golf world, but if you want to have some laughs. And maybe we'll get some, a lot of Canadian views. Maybe Brooke Henderson will move the needle in Canada. She obviously does.

Maybe our Canadian viewers will go through the roof with this video. You think we're going to pop in Canada? I think we'll get a bump from like the chicklets boys or something, something about Canada, hockey, goalie challenge. Maybe they'll talk about it. We usually do. We usually do. That'd be great.

It might show up in some Canadian algorithms is my hope. And then we just. Hopefully any hockey podcast or whatever talks about this goalie challenge we did on the golf course. That would be fun. That'd be dope. A little hockey, Trent Ryan. They could judge Trent. Trent,

you were kind of caught, you kind of caught fire out there. You like, once the fear goes away enough, because when you step in there originally, the fear is heavy. But then once you take one, it's like in football. Like when you play football as a kid growing up, you're scared to get hit. You're really scared.

But then you get hit a couple times and you're like, I'm not dead. I can still, I'm fine. I can still do this. And then you start, you start really ripping in and hitting people. That's kind of how I felt, you know, with the hockey stuff. I took a couple golf balls to the chest. And then I started snagging them out of thin air. And I think I got pretty good at it.

You did. Check out our YouTube tonight. Go check out. Trent Ryan's on there. He's saving balls against Brooke Henderson. It's a great video. She was cool, too. I loved hanging out with there.

She was six or seven years ago when I would tweet about the LPGA door a lot more. She was my girl. I loved Brooke Henderson. I still do love her. She's great. So good video. You guys see, this is my last thing I got before we throw it to Megatron, not from the movie, from the football.

You guys see Orca whales are attacking ships now? I saw the one did. The one went after that ship and the guys were just laughing. about it. It was crazy. Let me talk to you through this. Let me read a couple of things to you guys that I wrote down here. This is from ABCNews.gov.com. Orca whales may be teaching others to attack boats following a spate of strikes on sailboats off the east or off the coast of Europe. Some observers say sailors have reported a series of coordinated attacks by a group of orcas including a May 22nd strike on a 26 foot vessel sailing off the coast of Cape Spartal near the straight

of Gilbraltar? Six Orcas. Yeah, perfect. Quote, six Orcas arrived, two adults, very big, four smaller ones, unquote. Sailor J.P. Derunez wrote, an Orca attack reports, a Facebook group dedicated to flagging orca activity. Both rudders destroyed and blocked boat to be hauled off later this week. Then it says that attack followed a nighttime strike on May 4th when a Swiss yacht named Champagne, which is also sailing through the straight of, what's it called?

Gibraltar was attacked by three orcas. They struck its rudder, eventually sinking it, reported yacht, a German boating activity. And then it goes on to say at least 15 human orca incidents were recorded in 2020, the year in which the aggressive encounters are believed to have begun, according to a study published in the journal Marine Mammal Science. And then it goes on, there's all kinds of theories that this began in like 20, 2020 because one orca whale, there was like a pot of whales, and they believe there's a chance, one of the theories that one of the orca whales had like a traumatic bad experience with a boat

and that that then wired the brains of all of these orcas in this pod to be anti-boat. And now they are coordinated to try to attack and sink intentionally coordinated attacks to sink boats and sailboats. isn't it interesting that we as humans are such a dominant species that we find it outrageous that there are other species that can plan and coordinate and attack like if that's what's talk about chimp empire we can and that's that's that's it's in a similar vein to what we're talking about but it is like we humans humans humans plan together and attack other humans that happens pretty frequently but when animals do it we're like what the fuck is going on we actually got. It seems like we got really lucky that we can think and attack others, but we're like, there's no way that these animals can do that. And then when they do it, it's front page news and we're talking about it on our podcast. But yeah, the chim vampire thing is really interesting. It says white gladys, this is the scientists say spikes in aggression may have been started by female orca whom scientists have named White Gladys. White Gladys is believed to have suffered a, quote, critical moment of agony, such as a boat collision which inflicted

trauma on the orca triggering a behavioral switch that other killer whales have learned to imitate. How fucking scary is that, dude? These things, I mean, it's free willy. Imagine a bunch of free willies coming after you. Are you fucking kidding me? That's pretty wild. I had not seen that story. Dude, I mean, wild, wild in the definition of the word is chimp empire.

I'm only two episodes in. I think there's four. It's a mini series on Netflix. They're in the Nogoggo forest. So you're a Ugandan jungle, yeah. Ugandan jungle. They follow out. And the craziest part of this whole fucking thing is behind each camera,

which is like a human being filming this shit. It's nuts that they were out there. I'm going to have to watch behind the scenes on how these guys even got this footage. But they're filming these packs of chimpanzees. And they're like basically at that there's a central group. There's a northern group. And they're just human beings. And it just makes you really think about like,

how are we what we are after you look at them? Like, how did we get? to where we are right now as humans. Because we are chimpanzees. We came from them or they came from us. Whatever happened, we are the same. And I mean,

98% of our DNA is identical. So what happened that the 2% is allowing me to talk into a sure road mic and on on crazy interwebs where we're sending invisible fucking data points up to a satellite and back down. to all of our pieces of technology. How did that 2% get to get to this point?

You know what I mean? Because I'm watching this chimp empire and they have language, communication, they have thoughts, feelings, they have desires. They have the ability to control and manipulate and adapt. I mean, they have legitimate human function. Right. Their motivations are. Snapchat made.

Like, they just can't do that yet. Right. Their motivations are base and but similar to ours where it's like power, territory, manipulation, social relationships. Like it's all there. It's just they can't talk into a sure microphone for whatever reason. And I don't know what that reason is. I don't know if anybody's ever figured that out. Why did our DNA?

You can't do that either. Why did our DNA and brains make the jump? Like I don't know. But it's very interesting watching that Chimbemperin. There's a, it makes me want to puke watching that. Why? Because I haven't seen it yet. The whole thing is just so it makes your brain hurt of like, what actually is all this? Like what actually is a human being when we have these animals that you just said, like we just think of them as animals for some reason.

We don't think of them as anything else but that. But then you watch this documentary and they're just people, they're people. They are, they have, I mean, we've given them names, but like we've done that. They know each other as if they have. You know what I mean? They know each other. There's relationships. They're grooming one guy.

The other guy doesn't want to get groomed. It's the one leader has just like a, he shows off force so that he's the leader and everyone respects them. And then and then they know each other so much that when one from another, another chimpanzee just strolls into their territory. They go to war with them. And like they legit go on these war, these war like tours. And they're like, they all look at each other. like you guys want to go fight the guys from the north and they're like yup and then they go kill each other and then come back and they have roles what are we actually talking about there's these two brothers from these two chimpanzee brothers from i think

the northern group that patrol the border it's these two guys these two chimpanzees are like we watch the border that's what we do and who how do they decide that and their brothers why does that matter i don't know but they patrol the border and they wait and they see if people if other chimpanzees are coming through it's very interesting very very interesting but like how did what i want to know what happened right there's these theories you said like the the high chimpanzee there's the stone dap theory yeah they got a bunch of fucking mushrooms and their brains started to just grow and they saw things and they're like wait i can speak and then you know evolution comes from that i don't know if that's true but i do know that these these motherfuckers are

they are extremely similar to us and that's a little bit scary i mean if one of them looked into the camera and was like you're dead like to the camera guy i wouldn't even have blinked an eye that's how close they are to doing that like that's how close they are for this being planet of the apes they're that close it's something like if you gave them a pill they're there you know what i mean and they fucking hate monkeys they they kill monkeys and they eat them they eat them they eat eat them. It's wild. They eat them like fucking, like corn on the cob. They just fucking, they

suck their bones dry. It's crazy. The little babies look like old men. The little baby ones look like old men. They look so much like a regular human being old man. It's crazy. They're sucking the mama's teat. It's just everything about it is nuts. And then you look like

what is DNA? Like how could we be 98% the same? Then you look like we're 60% the same as a banana. You ever see that? We're like Yeah, we're just like the same, we're like 80% same DNA as like a fruit fly. It's just like what actually happened here? How did we become us? I don't know.

I need to know. I need to know. I don't think anybody knows. I don't know, man. Does anyone know? Does anyone know? No. You guys caught up on succession?

No, but if you guys want to talk about it, I can leave. I am. It's a fantastic show. I can't believe the finale is this, this, this, upcoming week. Series finale is coming up. I'm not going to spoil anything, Jerry.

Let's wait until everybody's caught up, you know. It's an all-time show. I'm sad to see it go. You'd love to watch it end early, though. You don't want it to... Yeah, I'm kind of ready for it to end. I'm ready for it to end. It's an amazing show.

You like it because you want to continue, but you also don't want to see it. They don't want to drag it out. No. I watched a clip on Jerry Seinfeld talking on Howard Stern about how he got offered like $100 million to do another season of Seinfeld, and he said no.

And he's like, his reasoning was incredible. Well, that was probably, yeah. That was probably the Chappelle thing with Chappelle show where it's like, we're going to pay you $50 million to keep doing this. And he's like, I don't know if we can keep it. Like, I don't know if we can keep it at the same level. So I'm not going to do it. It was a $110 million offer.

And he's like, no, like there's just, it changes everything. Like when you go out on top, everything else is then way more valuable. because of how good it was, leaving people wanting more. There's like all this science to all of that. And for him to see that. And, and, you know, because he becomes this like, this hero because everything he's done has been perfect as opposed to maybe even having the slightest bit of failure. He also earned it back times eight with syndication. He's worth a billion dollars.

Right. He's worth a lot of money. That guy. Jerry Seinfeld. All right. We done here, boys? I think so. I think so.

We're going to throw it to Calvin Johnson. We got mega-truthers. on the show. Everybody enjoy the Charles Schwab. They're a colonial. Pretty good field for something like this. There's a good seven, eight guys that are pretty damn big stars in the game.

So enjoy that. Everybody have, we got, we got Memorial Day weekend this weekend. Is that right? I don't. That kind of snuck up on. I know our work schedule just doesn't really nowadays.

We're in and out. We travel a lot. It's not like we're in an office Monday through Friday. So this stuff sneaks up on us big time. I didn't even really realize that. But yeah, Monday is Memorial Day weekend. I'm going to be in Pinehurst Sunday through Friday. My old man's coming down.

He's getting back into golf. Shots to tell him. He hooked him up with a set of clubs. He went and got fitted. He hasn't really played golf at years. And he retired in the fall of last year. Now my old man's getting back into golf. So I think we're going to play.

He's played the cradle down at Pinehurst before a few ties with us. But other than that, he hasn't played any golf in Pinehurst. I think we're going to play a couple courses in Pinehurst for the first time with my old man. So wonderful. Yeah. Should be a great week. That's going to be great. Be a weekend for everyone. Be safe. Be smart. We're going to throw it to Calvin Johnson. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. You have to check out Golf Galaxy to find everything you need for your golf game and your dads.

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You live in Michigan? You're a Michigan guy through and through now? Yeah, all my adult wife have been in Michigan. So we were saying pre-show, Michigan golf, we've done kind of up near Traverse City and all that. How's like Detroit Area Golf? Detroit area golf is great. Detroit has some great golf courses. So anything, like within an hour of Detroit, there's a lot around the golf course. I know you've heard of Oakland Hills, Detroit Golf Club, obviously, where they hold Rocket Mortgage.

Those are obviously just a couple of the top, too, but there's so many more here. When did you start playing golf? Was it something you picked up while you were playing or after you got done playing? When did you start? Man, my brand, I put a golf club in my hand at a young age, but I really didn't start playing really seriously, you know, got all clubs towards the end of my career. Even then, you know, I wasn't really active, you know, I had clubs. They were really fitted, right?

They were just doing some extra long clothes because, oh, I got my alarm. So I was just constantly digging up dirt. Like, man, this ain't it, you know. And I put in the pause and I got back out there. somebody you know i got a pro i got some lessons i got fitted right and the game became much much more fun you know this is probably like um you know a handful of years ago i got my clubs fitted got the lessons like three years ago and it really changed everything that i'm done without you know i guess my my short golf career with everything i thought i was doing right it was wrong you know

when i finally got those lessons that i had to you know forget all those bad habits like that i had created I mean, obviously one of the best wide receivers of all time. Where do you rank your game right now for golf? Like, are you as competitive on the golf course as you were on the football field? Are you happy with where you're at right now, even starting later in life? I'm definitely competitive out there. I might not be as good yet as I'm going to get, but I'm definitely competitive out there. My game is improving every year, obviously getting lessons over the last couple of years.

It's tremendously impacted that, and then I have myself, the Bushnell Lashbro. I got a little set up in the garage, so I like to swing in the wintertime. You know, that's like half the year. So, but yeah, my golf, I'm about a 12 or 13 right now. Okay. I'm trying to break out the 80s and get down to the 70s.

It's not take a little time, but I'm going to get there. I mean, one of your biggest incentives should be, and he's a friend of the program, but Larry Fitzgerald, obviously you guys go at it when it comes to ranking Best Buy receivers of all time in the NFL, and now he's a very big golfer. friend of the program. He's come on our show and then he beat our ass and pickleball. That guy's out of control when it comes to competition.

Especially Frankie. I mean, at this point, like, that should be your incentive to be like the best, not only the best by receiver, but the best golfer out of the two of you. Well, 100% man. Laird is really good. I hear him. I have had fortunate to play him with him. He's not really good. He's not really good. I see him off here in all the pro. ams, you know, you know, let's say, I want to be out there to be able to play and play himself. You know, that's my goal. I'm playing in the 70s consistently. You know, I can't tell me nothing, dude.

Are you on that pro-M circuit at all? Have you dipped into that world? I'm not on a circuit, but I do, I go to the one here in Detroit. I've been playing it out the last couple years. We've got to get to that Detroit tournament. We did the Minnesota 3M last year, and it's great. That part of the country, kind of those northern states where, like, you're talking about golf's only really doable for half of the year or something.

When an event comes there and golf's going, golf season, going. I feel like that part of the country, people are really into it. I mean, Detroit ain't what it used to be like when I moved here, 50 years, 60 years ago. Detroit, I mean, he has a nice restaurant scene, let downtown, nice office in the riverfront. But then we have all these events coming. You know, we've got a draft coming next year. But the, the Rock and Mortgage has been at the DGC for the last. This is your follow up, I think.

You know, so I think that, well, I know that, you know, Detroit is hungry. There's a lot of dolphins of beer. So we only get a half a year to play. but people turn out for the 40 rocket man you have to check it out i like detroit i feel like detroit's a uh people sleep on detroit a little bit like you're saying it's kind of uh i don't know coming back or what but it's not like we've been there enough to know if it needs to come back or not but detroit's got a lot of characters a work in town right it's an auto town i feel like people people sleep on detroit a little too much you can sleep on destroy like you say it's blue

collars town you know people you know take their you know lost to all work every day you know and it resonates you know with mild bring you know so that's all right you know so that's all on me. I'm still here. You know, the people obviously have a lot of connections here. And like we're talking about, man, golf sea, you're phenomenal, especially when the weather charts because the suffers here are so great. Any thought of heading south to a Florida or in Arizona to, you can play 12 months a year, Calvin? From Georgia, you can't play, you can play almost all year up down there. Maybe maybe a couple months where you can't play in Georgia. But, you know, I'm from Georgia, but honestly, business keeps me here. I have my family here. I have my wife here. You know, but we still,

frequent, Georgia. But, I mean, if I get all the people that move up here from Georgia, I would. I'm a four-season guy. You know, like, if I tell them on a snowboard, you know, I find something doing the fall, I like to go to small game, you know, but there's always something to do up here, miss. I, uh, yeah, I, you know, I was going to tell you, there's just places in the country that just have better, better weather in the winter. I mean, I, you know, the big seasons they have from St. Louis, I lived in the Northeast for 15 years or so, and that's what everybody says, but there's just, I hate to tell you, there's just places in the country where it's just perfect weather. And you know, you all, especially, like, oh, what am I doing in Michigan?

I know. Yeah, I go back and forth on the, because I grew up in Iowa. So I and I lived out in New York for a few years now. Like, there is a part of me that loves every season, but then every time I'm in a warm weather place where it's warm all the time, like San Diego or Scotts. or any of those places. I'm like, I think I might just be like indoctrinated into the Midwest way of thinking

where it's like, no, they want to keep people here so you've got to love the seasons. I don't know if that's true or not. The first part, for sure, when you're talking about how the outfits

looks up to a warm climate, 100%. I mean, it makes you think of choices. I'm like, but really honestly, business love really keeps me up here. It wasn't for business.

You know, I probably would have moved back from that stuff already. Yeah, yeah. I laugh. People are like, oh, don't you?

I love. like fall foliage. I'm like, yeah, I just look at fucking pictures on the internet. It's great. They look so beautiful. It's really, you know, it's like 62 and sunny and we're playing golf. Yeah, the seasons are, I miss that a lot. Talk about, so you mentioned business a lot. Obviously, you know, it's, it's a great trajectory that I think a lot of guys are getting more into, which is, you know, you play, played in the NFL for nine, 10 years, unbelievable career. Then you kind of transition into business. You got the shirt on, primitive. I personally trying to drink less. I'm incredibly hung over this morning. Trying to get into other stuff, new stuff. Primitive, it's this cannabis,

a good mix, healthy, good for you. Talk to us about primitive and kind of what you guys are doing over there. Yeah, man, we started primitive. We dropped the brand in early 21. You know, but we've been in the industry for about five years now. We started at cultivation, you know, got a processing license and then opened up our retail in 22. Um, but, but, the main goal, the main vision was ultimately, obviously, to de-scentat the plant by the highlight and the hill of power of zone, we look to innovate in the industry and bring forward new products. You know, it's really break on new customers and broaden that understanding and education of the cannabis fit. So, like I say, we call ourselves primitive because

thousands of use people being using cannabis, not just cannabis, flat medicine is a germ. But obviously our focus is cannabis. So by definition, you know, it is criminal. But, you know, in the park, innovation. You know, we've really tried to focus on that. We're part of the International Phidal Medicines Institute of Harvard and what they're doing over there, Dana Farber. And it's a consortial of institutes from John Hopkins University of Penn. And there might be a couple of others that I'm forgetting. But really just try to eradicate the disparities when it comes to health care involving plant medicine, though. So it's a very exciting to be a part of the cutting edge technology. when it comes to what we're able to do when it comes to usually plant how they better our body.

And I'm not firm believe that you got put everything on this earth that we need to survive. You know, we can kind of get away from those synthetic means that create all kinds of toxins in our body. And use the things that you put on this earth and use the technology that we definitely have to advance those things. You know, I think we'll be in a better place when it comes to health care. So we're slowly been sure the way at that with cannabis, we're scheduled one. So there's always so much research you could do. But, you know, Joe Biden, he had signed a bill at the end of last year, a Canada's bill, which allows for more research, which is good. So, you know, we're slowly but sure we're chipping away there.

But, yeah, primitiveism. You know, we're very passionate about cannabis because, you know, truly our own experiences. Yeah, you're in a very interesting position because you played such a violent sport, pretty much your whole life. And then you see countless stories of guys who get out of the league and whether they have surgeries or whatever comes around. opioids become kind of the go-to when you're trying to feel better, you're trying to recover, and then some people become dependent on it, and that can go sideways in a lot of ways. With your company, this cannabis company, and you can probably speak firsthand, like, how has it helped you post a very, very violent football career?

Yeah, you know, I got to the cannabis industry post-football, actually, you know, after I did the, and this is a true story, I did the dancer with the Starz Show, and I was about to quit the show probably about three weeks. here and bottom up there or something like that. Because my swelling starts coming back in my ankles and my knees, but mainly my ankles. And I couldn't move because that, I mean, dancing is crazy, you know, it's just, at that, that it's like, it's almost like doing like a flipwork drill for like however long to dance is.

So, you know, ankle was swollen up. I just getting in that flexibility. I can move and get to the places I needed to do, or positions that I need to be here. And I was about to put the show. But fortunately, um, one of my owners from Georgia Tech, he's out there will hang out and I told him what was going on. And he brought me a top of cool that was in. Remember, he was in the green glass jar with a gold cap.

And he was like, man, try this out. And I tried it out over the next couple of days. My slowing starts to side. And I'm like, okay, there's something to this. And, you know, I always use cannabis. Not always, but I use it while I was playing ball because I thought it was great to help me sleep. You know, help, you know, ease, whatever, you know, you know, anxiety. You know, just so I think that's a big part of your recovery

being able to progress and move forward. And, you know, from that aspect, I knew it was good. But being able to use it in a different app of a patient was like, okay, light bulb moment. You know, I'd have a chance. I'd love to be down to the finest of this and be able to push this forward. And with tiny, you know, the cannabis industry in Michigan opened up and we're in a physician to hop in. We're out on big, we'll be out on big medicine.

We'll be anti-big medicine if you, you know, we'll just transition into, uh, But we're, you know, pharmaceuticals out. We're just, that's all bullshit. We're not in on that. We'll be in on the natural stuff. I can say, put all that technology to the to a got foot on this there. Look, man, I think one of the, one of my favorite things we've ever partnered with experience had put before us due to the nature of our job is biolite. Biolite is IV in a bottle.

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Everything about you just screamed like the best. For you, like going through that stretch of incredible football, I feel like being a wide receiver and I've always wondered this. Like the better you get, the more eyes are on you on the defense. Like, did you ever struggle with that? the fact that, like, as you got better, it actually got way, way harder. I feel like no other sport, it's like that where, like, they're actually putting two guys on you, three guys on you. And then you have to keep progressing as the defense keeps getting harder.

Did you feel like at first it was like, man, this is almost like impossible. Like how did you break through that? Yeah, I mean, a lot of the times, the only way to break through that was to stretch the field, you know, get down the field or get across the field. But, I mean, after my rookie year, in my second year, started to start. the little double team, but after my second year, it was like double team all the time. It was weird that I got, you know, one-on-ones, and there's certain situations

where I would, but, you know, I wouldn't, they would dare just leave me the whole game where I went one-on-one or their, or just numbers. But, yeah, it was just, it was the big part of that was obviously the coordinator, you know, that's coming out with a good, good game, playing the conval's plays at the right time, but

like there's always the safety over top or a linebacker inside, you know, freeing almost like a triangle defense look, you know, try to stop anything so you can't do anything. We're not a lot today. Seriously, you have to trust to do. How bad ass is it to be able to say, like, yeah, they wouldn't dare put me one on one. They wouldn't, they wouldn't put another single human up against me as a human.

Like, that's just, that would be psychotic of them to do that. Think about like in golf, like, would they just like, imagine they just made the whole smaller for Tiger Woods because he was just like way better than everyone. And he just had to like power through that. I mean, they did start to, they changed golf course a little bit. They do. Right. They literally did.

Dominion, yeah. They did do that. Augusta did that, yeah. That's a pretty good. That's a good point. Yeah, I, you know, like Frankie said, it was cultural, man. Like Megatron, did you feel like going into different cities, away games? Did you feel coming in like I'm the guy and I'm a problem and everybody knows I'm a problem?

You know, just how everything's structured in the NFL, like how to prove. practice week goes and and who the team's key on, just knowing how that goes. You know, I knew every week, you know, somebody had to be rocking the 81 jersey. And if they weren't doing it, then they were just in denial. They were in denial. I think the Cowboys were in denial. You know, there's some teams there. They ended up paying for it.

Was there a specific guy on the other side that you didn't like facing or did you feel like you had the edge on everyone? No, I mean, never that, man. There's always, you know, the guys. on the other side. I mean, cornerbatch are the most athletic, I mean, receivers, obviously, but cornerbacks being able to react to

what we're doing, the Trophical workouts. Yeah, that's crazy. There's something of the most athletic, you know, players in the field, you know, so, um, but I hate it going against I had to go against Pat B-Life, like six years straight almost. And I was like, I'm like, what's going on?

They just want to see the matchups? Like, he's not, I mean, tell you he's in the NFC, but he's not an NFC. You're going to play. he didn't see whether or something like that. This doesn't make any sense. And then where every year we're going out to Arizona every year, and I was like,

I think I was more than all. But it was one of those weeks, but whenever it fell in the season, you know, it's one of those days on, all right, leading up to this game. I just got to make sure

I'm as healthy as possible lead up to this game. It's like going against peanut twice a year. You know, if he'll tell me, it's just, you know, it's going to be a headway battle. You know, you got to bring it every place.

But those guys, like most top, you know, The thing is for me is just to, you know, get in their face, you know, holes not little early in the game. And most guys can't take that and can't compete with that for 60, 70 plays. Peanut, there's some guys that can, those kind of guys, those stars like that on the other side. Pat Peek, I was in the rail. I ain't played the rail a whole bunch of times, but he was a phenomenal player. And congratulations to Hillwops.

He's ignored to the all this year. I play against God like Charles Wilson, that he is different from the P-Ducson. and the path he I mean kind of like a batheer of like an ivory kind of but you know Chuck's always trying to he's a smart play

he's trying to jump stuff he's trying to get in a physical battle a little game you know he's trying to jump play he's trying to get interceptions and take it to the out you know

but just being able to you know playing against those kind of guys you know you gotta have a mindset you know it's different from playing against Chuck versus playing against a

you know peanut or or Pat He would be going to be super physical do you still watch NFL football you keep tabs on it or you just just casual fan or how close to it are?

Yeah, I'm saying, man. I'll watch as much as I can. I'm thinking about, you know, you two draft the, was it, Sunday, too. Yeah. I'm thinking about side off for that while still Keith Prisham.

That's, I'm watching. Such a good thought. Yeah. I'm thinking about signing up. I'm fan up, man. I just want to, I want to be able to check out. You know, there's guys that you meet over top,

just being around the league. You know, should come fans up just because they're good guys. And I love watching my lines, but I want to see more of Gairs too. You're like, you're a Lions fan. You're like a fan of the team still? Yeah, I mean, it's hard on out to beat because I know. I know some of you guys, you know, even though,

even now a lot of the guys that I play with for the most really aren't there anymore. But I still have made, I see guys around town. You know, I meet a bunch of, you know, good guys. And then obviously the coaching staff, all former players on the coaching staff, I know they and I play with their, you know, it's hard out of love with, we're trying to come to show here. Did it feel good to finally have a Thanksgiving after you retired from the Lions? I mean, it's like every single year they're playing on Thanksgiving.

It's become one of our traditions to watch it. But I always think like, man, these guys are just in the game every single year. They're never able to chill on like an actual holiday. It's crazy. Yeah, I do. We do look. I mean, we look forward to after the game, you know, everybody's trying to get showered up real fast and go kicking the family, this of the food, or watch the late game or maybe even, you know, the second part of the,

of the second game. But, you know, it was such tradition. We look forward to it. We look forward to being at 12-5 game and getting Thanksgiving off to a good start. Yeah. What's the part of your golf game that you're most confident in right now? And then what's the part that you're least confident in right now? You know, it's switching over right now.

I think I know, I'm paying a little bit more attention to my Wilson driver. You know, I'm getting off a T a lot better, which is allowing me to lower my handicap, you know, just not losing balls, keeping everything in front of me. My dispersion is narrow, you know, which is great. but my so with that you know I just I feel like I'm lost a little bit of touch and I feel like I'm good around a hundred but when I get like 50 and then I thought I lost a little touch for a year I'm in between right there so I just got to get yep I got to get out to have her that out of that out of the tiger that time it was like two years ago it's like tiger woods or yeah um you know we hit in the morrow hit a couple hundred balls we'll go play and then we go back hit here and we're gonna hit here I'm just like, wow, that's lovely. I wish I could get that much. I can't be like just like that.

So, you know, you really see what it takes to be. It would be that great. You also realize that 50-yard shot is all, it's all feel at some point. And it's like you don't learn that until you just hit a bunch of balls from around 50, 60, 70 yards. For a long time for me specifically, it was like the only time I got to practice that 65-yard shot over a bunker was when I had a 65-yard shot over a bunker in a real round of golf. Like I was never actually, I never had the means to go out to like a range that had a short game area or like I was playing public golf a lot. And then you realize like if you have access to practice facilities, the next time you're out on that on the golf course, you're like, oh, I know how to do this. I just bring it back to here.

It's way easier when you realize it's like it's a feel thing. You got to actually do it as opposed to just like thinking about it. Man, you say that now. I was like, there's no place around here with a short game practice facility like that besides like Detroit Golf Club. I'm trying. I've been holding off trying to, you know, I've been thinking about joining for like the last several, several years.

Get in there. And it's like, but like you say, it's the only place where I can actually work that part of the game, you know, so unless I'm just going to practice it, you know, take a couple of shots.

I don't know of course. Right. Yeah, we talk about it all the time. I'm, I'm the worst bunker player on planet Earth. I get stuck in a bunker. My soul dies in there.

I'm just in there forever. I know you posted a good video the other day. Yeah. Crispy bunker shot. Yeah. So then the other day, I, went to this this range near us and I just threw down like I hit like 50 shots out of the bunker

and that's more bunker shots and I'm going to play on a on a course in like a given year well maybe not me but like and then you I was in a bunker we were just down a Myrtle Beach and I hit a great one out of there and it's just you remember what it takes and pretty much what we're saying is just practice everybody it just takes practice all of it like you say it's just muscle memory building it in and the only way do it is you throw them balls out of like you say, just do it. Yeah. We, uh, we got to get, we got to get Megatron over the, over the hill a little bit here,

like over the hump because it's like you're thinking about signing up for the NFL package. Like you're saying, thinking about joining Detroit golf club. We got to, let's pull the trigger. So locked in on primitive. He's got to be that locked in his golf game. That's exactly what it is, man. Like before we really got, before we really dove in, you know, I was out, I was playing three times a week. I got, I got out of the hundreds.

I got down to like the low 90s. And then over the last couple of years. years I was able to get out into consistently just playing in the 80s, but you know, I got to get out more than one time a week, you know, in order to get that thing down there. We talked a little bit about Larry earlier. Have you gotten into the pickleball craze or have you

not gotten into that? I haven't, man. I'm trying to get some golf in or I'm trying to find a mount the snowboard. That's really what it is. Yeah, pickleball, some people are really into it. Some people don't want to even get a problem on the pickleball. Yeah. I love table tennis as well, so I probably would. It's just that lateral movement.

Like Larry's just, and you guys are so long and your wingspan, it's just impossible to beat. Like when you're out there and you have that kind of side to side movement, it's impossible to beat in singles. And he knows it. How big is the court? It's literally in between a tennis court and a ping pong table. It's like it's, so it's within that box. You can see them on tennis courts. It's within the box.

It's not too far. You would cover, I mean, if with your arms out, you would cover like 98% of the court. You're like playing against a fucking wall. I can just hit it back. Get into it. Go play for like, go play one time. It would be hooked.

Crazy. The way he's taking all, I probably would. Everybody's talking about it. Larry Fitz, man. We love that guy. Yeah,

he's a huge, he's a huge golf nut. Do you guys have, like, when you see him, do you guys have like an unspoken, like, we're kind of two guys

that are just in a club that pretty much nobody else is in? 100%, man. I got to be around Larry of us just being in a league or, you know, nothing but, class at, you know, a number of respect. And, you know, I actually saw he came out a year before, you know,

you know, so I was looking, I was looking up to him a little bit, just watching him while as he progressed in his journey along the way, you know, so, you know, none of but kudos. Yeah. There's, you know, we, through this job, we meet a lot of different people. We talk about a lot of people. Larry Fitzgerald is one of the more just overall impressive human beings I've ever, I've ever met. He's just, he's great. He's so nice. He's got big smile. He's incredibly athletic. He's also just super competitive. Do you have that in you too? Like I'm he's playing pickleball against Frankie and I mean, first couple points he's like pretty casual and then midway through that pickleball match against again, Frankie Borrelli on the screen there. He's like,

he's chirping Frank. He called me pathetic. And then at one point he's like, you're a born loser. You were born to lose this match. It was awesome. And he goes, we are not the same. And then serve the ball at me. And I, of course, just, like, didn't even return it. I just like, it was just an ace right on me. So, yeah. But, I mean, I could see that. I can't be Megatron without having that in you. You can't be Calvin Johnson without being like a natural-born killer on the, on the field.

That's just no chance. We want to compete. We wanted to be great, you know, and everything that we do, like that, all that stuff, the best for it, whatever you do. So if I put them, I'm doing something, you know, I'm trying to be great at. He's going to win it, yeah. Do you chirp? Did you chirp?

you talk shit to guys out there? Like when somebody lines up against you, where you just like, dude, you got, I'm gonna dominate, you are pathetic. I'm gonna dominate you. It was so funny because it was like a vine game. And it was funny because I talked to peanut recently about this.

I found him at us at the graphic cabin city. And we're just talking about I was on this podcast. And we're talking about this exact thing. You know, he's like, man, you never talk. You never talk shit. Like,

and like for us, like, we're just like, what's going on this didn't say it? Like, hey. You know, for me, straight up, I'm just like, man, I haven't been in too many games where we don't have ran 80 plus plays.

I'm not here. I got to conserve all this energy because if I don't, I'm going to be dead and spot out and getting to play 80. You know, so I think my reasoning is I'm not trying to waste any energy. Yeah, I don't really celebrate. I'm like, don't the ball of the goal of the polls and whatnot. You know, I might slap whoever swore on my head and whatnot, but, you know, I'm over here just trying to get my own way because I know it's a long game.

You know, I'm trying to keep my composure throughout the whole game. In more ways than not, that's way more intimidating than being like the boisterous, like, you know, I'm in your face. I'm the best out here. When you just do it as if you were supposed to do it, that's like, we can't stop this guy. This is just, he's just going down the checklist today. And we're just in his way. They've just never heard Megatron's voice. He just comes and catches football.

And they're like, that guy's unbelievable. Well, look, man, we appreciate the time. Great stuff with primitive. I'm going to dabble. I got to test this stuff out. Obviously, you rave about it. Megatron, you're an icon, like Frankie said. It's kind of, it's very, very humble for us to be even chatting with you because we watched

you for years, football's king in this country. And anytime the lions are playing those big games, Thanksgiving, it was like, if you just throw the ball anywhere near Megatron, he's just going to catch the football and the game's over. So it's really cool to talk to you. It's really cool to hear kind of what you've been up to. and getting into business, getting into golf. We got to play some golf sometime. We love Michigan golf, so maybe we come up there and play a little golf.

Say less. Please contact my folks. May I get in touch with you. However you got to, I love you. I'll come over the point letting you know. I'll love you get out. Awesome. Yeah, let's do it.

We appreciate the time. Good luck with everything going forward. And yeah, let's do this again soon. Appreciate it. May I all have a great one. I can talk cannabis and golf anytime. Awesome. Thanks, man.

Thanks, man. Peace.