Fore Play - Mighty Morikawa: Open Championship Recap

Episode Date: July 18, 2021

Collin Morikawa proves he’s a total stud at Royal St. George’s, outlasting Spieth on Sunday with zero bogeys. What’d we think of St. George’s? Of Bryson chirping his own driver then being call...ed a stupid 8 year old? Also, we breakdown our Michigan trip: stories from Forest Dunes and Bahle Farms.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Four Play, I'm at Barstool Sports. We are back and we have the final major of the year. The final major, we're going to have the largest gap between major championships now that we've had in two years, basically, because we just got hit with them nonstop due to the pandemic and the rescheduling. We're going to have a major championship for nine months. But Kyle Mora Kow proved that he's probably the biggest stud upcoming in golf.
Starting point is 00:00:30 that I can think of. And it's, I mean, yeah, we just had Rom-dominated the U.S. open one up, but Morikawa, his speech afterwards, the fact that he got the Frankie bump, it's just hard not to be extremely high on Colin Morikawa. Yeah, we had the conversation a couple weeks ago and we were talking about it today, too, who we think is going to dominate the next five years of golf. And, of course, we don't remember who we said necessarily, but I think it was between Rom, Colin, J.T, a bunch of different, oh, Sung-J.M.
Starting point is 00:00:58 You brought that out of it. He wasn't in the original question, but... He's going to be like in the military. He could be. Depending on how he plays the Olympics. He could be. And it's always recency bias with this type of stuff, but right now,
Starting point is 00:01:10 just watching Colin Morikawa not make any mistakes, he seems impossible to beat in big tournaments. Bogie free round. Yeah. Boge for your round. I think the last time I made a bogey was early in the Saturday round. We're recording right after they just finished up. So again, this is all pretty fresh.
Starting point is 00:01:25 But Colin Morikawa did it also among this. era where everybody's talking about distance and bryson and if you just hit it so far you can just dominate and distance is the only thing that matters it kind of it kind of uh takes over conversations about golf a lot should they uh change the entire equipment and all of the evolution of equipment over the last 30 years because distance is too much comoco is not like a bomber of the ball at all we we saw them pull three woods all over the place today or something a little bit less than driver um and just kind of craft it out there keep it short of the bunkers which is lynx golf which is strategic because if you're in those things, you pretty much got to hit out sideways.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I think it was Francesco Molinar. He made like an eight the other day because you just couldn't get out of a bunker. So it sort of forces you a little bit to be more strategic like that and Morakao proved that, you know, that type of golf and being the best iron player on planet Earth, he could just pick apart that golf course. He putted really well at times. And ultimately that was the difference, which is amazing because it looked like he had it so much more together than speed
Starting point is 00:02:29 and yet a couple of those like big putts that he made just don't fall and the two of them are in a playoff like it's that close which we've hit on a million times but but yeah more cow a man it's it's recency bias like trench has said because it happened five minutes ago but it feels like that guy's going to win double digits
Starting point is 00:02:44 majors and we say that all the time but it feels like that right now well I think teaddy called it was that after Thursday round where I think I came down to watch TV Friday morning and you had heard Morikawa talk about hitting iron shots like it was porn like he can hit through all these different windows and so i mean you were just like i just don't think there's any way that he's going to lose this golf tournament early right
Starting point is 00:03:05 the way he talked about his irons at one of the pressers made me think he was going to win and he did whenever we said whenever you start talking about windows that's when you are just playing a different game than everybody else think about how small a window is right and tigers talked about windows more cow is now talking about windows all the time if you can hit irons the way he hits iron certain windows are big certain windows are big i was actually i was actually i thought Like to think about hitting a golf ball through it. Even like the biggest window you know. Hitting a golf ball through it from like 180 yards away.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Think about how impressive that would be. And what he was saying, he wasn't talking about actual large windows. I could find you some windows that I could hit. What he was saying, we'll find one and we'll give that a shot. That actually would be pretty fun. But he's saying like when you play this type of golf across the pond, there's different ways to play and you can hit it in all these different windows and they have different results. And he feels so good with his irons that he's.
Starting point is 00:03:56 he thinks he can hit every single shot that he needs to hit and he proved it this week he is just so solid with the irons that he can do anything he's an assassin yeah he's the james bond of golf he goes out there comp and cool and collect and he just murders you he never lets off he never gives you a second to breathe you think that jordan spee's going to make a run colomorica out hits a bomb birdie put to just shove it in your face just he never stops if you're behind him chasing him you're never going to catch him that's the kind of golfer he is and i fucking love that The up and downs were incredible. Like, he made up and down from everywhere, but then 14, he had kind of that cross ridge chip he had to make.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It fell down the wrong side. He made a beautiful birdie putt on that hole. Like, he was incredible. And yeah, he has that, like, nine window shot the tiger would talk about. I was actually talking to Frankie about our round this weekend, which maybe we'll touch on a little bit. I think you had a nine window miss going on where you could hit all nine windows, just the wrong time. It was in like a glass window house. It could have went left right down.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Low left, low left. low right, high left, high right. Break them all. So yeah, I think, again, it's so bizarre because when you step back and look at the way that he won, it feels like he was just always going to win and he dominated. He won by two shots, which is nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Bless you, Frankie. I held that one in. I don't know if that made it. You can cuss yourself in that. It felt like, did I hear your mouth, like, clant? Yeah. Caught it. Don't hold those in, man.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You'll have an aneurism doing that. Yeah, that was bad. But he did. He had a few bound. where it was like going kind of near bunkers that they just it didn't go in the bunkers which is what it takes to win and then he had the few up and downs on the long par four where he hit that one long left and then the ninth hole as well i think it was where he both of those up and downs where it looked like he was in the bad stuff over there you know fescue long tall grass and he just got up and down both times when you're thinking like ooh this could be a double and then he still just kind of wins by two so it shows you how good the the fields are jordan speed had the the tide for I believe the lowest total strokes ever by a runner-up. Really? In an open, which was Ties Phil Mickelson in 2016 when he and Henrik Stenson had that duel.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And then I think speaks more to the weather than anything else. I mean, it's just you had a tweet. We talked about it like Cabo. There was just supposed to be 25-mile-an-hour wins. I don't know if I saw a shirt ruffle all week. You know, there just wasn't much to it. It's pretty calm. It was a stroll in the park
Starting point is 00:06:24 It was It really was You watch on TV It was beautiful Some was shining Guys were in T-shirts And long pants And they just looked really comfortable
Starting point is 00:06:33 They're sweating The water was really calm The water was really calm The water was calm No waves no nothing My assessment of the golf course I hate it Whoa
Starting point is 00:06:42 I didn't like it Those aerial shots Where it's just One hole And it's on its own And it's just not It was too much room for It was bizarre
Starting point is 00:06:51 How alone each hole looked. Yeah. Each hole looked alone, which was, it felt like a course that you had to drive in a cart for three minutes before you got to each next tea. And I know it's not that. It's Link's Scott,
Starting point is 00:07:04 but like when you look at Link's golf, like you can fit the entire course of the old course in San Angers when they show you how much actual aerial ground it takes up. It's nothing. It's like, you can't even tell it's there. So that was, I thought,
Starting point is 00:07:16 very surprising too. Yeah. It just didn't feel like, felt like nothing like the old course, which we all want. every British open venue to be like as close to the old course. Yeah, I think when you're picturing like those T-boxes and just like the way from that shot behind the, when they're on the T-box, like looking out at the fairway, it just didn't
Starting point is 00:07:34 feel like an open. Really high, fescue everywhere. Like if I was playing that course, I'd just be like, man, like this isn't the experience I want that. Obviously the pop bunkers, the crazy undulations in the fairways is super open-y. But I don't know, man. Something about being on those T-boxes looking out. It just didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I just didn't get that feeling this week. It almost looked like desert golf. It was like there was nowhere to hit it. It's like if you missed the fairway, it's gone. Yeah, it looked very tight. Yeah. I mean, you had to be down the middle. Like, we could lose a thousand golf balls there.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I mean, with the vast open areas. But I don't know if I hated it, but like it wasn't my favor by any means. But I don't, I mean, I think the weather to me, it's just like, I need, you need weather. You need them to see them taking crazy line left for the cross priest to bring it right. And it just wasn't any of them. Remember when Fitzpatrick was like running down the fairway to go to the bathroom? Because it was like raining and windy and he just wanted to get off. That's the old finish.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's when the big man Lowry won. Right. You were talking about how big he is. You need to be sturdy, fat, large. You put a bowl of soup in front of his belly. And in charge. He is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:37 The weather was disappointing. That's what you root for. That's what you tune in for. Umbrellas sideways flipped upside down. People grabbing rain jackets from people in the gallery, uh, hacking out of rough. And then they're like, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:49 the sand blows back into their face. Like, that's what the British Open is supposed to be. And instead, it was like 75 and sunny the entire time with a minimal wind. I mean, it's still 10, 15 miles an hour, a decent amount of time, a few gusts. But for the most part, every time you tuned in, it just wasn't. Obviously, nobody can control that. What you can control is Owen's mixers, which we love. We love for a very long time now.
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Starting point is 00:09:25 tasty mint cucumber in lime one of my favorites the grapefruit and the lime you can make a paloma so big thanks to owens mixers amazon boom next day they'll just ship it right to your place uh you can go to retail you can check owens mixers.com and figure out retail wise the closest store to you can just go pick that shit up put it in with your liquor and bam you got an awesome cocktail so big thanks to owens mixers they're delicious and they're getting it more and more golf courses across the country uh we have our own barstle transfusion it's really good Owens makeshers go get some. The only person who maybe could have controlled the weather but opted not to
Starting point is 00:09:56 is the head greenskeeper at the golf course. And that is Paul Larson, Paul Larson, aka Howard Stern of Golf. If you guys are on Twitter, if you're on social media, if you've even watching the cover, honestly, he was everywhere, especially during the practice rounds leading up to the event. This guy, the head greenskeeper is a cartoon character. His hair is all over the place. He looks like, I don't know, Albert Einstein with, like,
Starting point is 00:10:21 black hair. I've never seen anything like it. Like a young Albert Einstein. That's what I picture Albert Einstein would look like in his 20s. A mad scientist of the golf course. I've called him my white whale when it comes to behind the greens. I need to be with this guy as he walks the golf course. They were burning the insides
Starting point is 00:10:37 of the pot bunkers. Everything about this place looked really cool. I don't know that I can rest until I see this guy. And interview him. What do you think his background is? Where do you think he's from? I picture him just like running around with like sheep in like a yeah right I think he's from I think he's right
Starting point is 00:10:57 he's a local boy he's from Matt house he's from sandwich do you know that or is that we just no good call running around like he I don't know that he's like the sheep whisperer where like he walks out there and does this whistle and they all like run in place and they go to wherever sheep need to go right he might not use too many instruments he's more of a field guy oh when the weather's rolling in like the next day he might be his hair starts to tingle yeah he's reading yeah he's reading in almanacs and predicting the next week rather than looking at the weather champion. He definitely has almanage. He goes into his
Starting point is 00:11:27 apartment or attic or wherever he lives. He has an attic. Yeah, and there's almanacs. He might live in the attic. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's got almanacs. He's not looking at radars. I picture him and he'll be living actually downstairs in like a cobble-type basement where like it's like a cobblestone stairwell
Starting point is 00:11:43 underneath a pub and he has to light a fucking match on the little lantern as he walks into his room. You're going to this guy into like a hobbit. Yeah, I'm picturing Scrooge. Like, you know, Scrooge? Ebenezer Scrooge, I'm picturing.
Starting point is 00:11:57 But just a more jolly, crazy type. Not a big internet user, I would imagine. No. Just... No way. Does he have dreads? What a hair is that? Is that drug?
Starting point is 00:12:05 No, that's just long hair. That's just hair that's gotten away from him. Okay. Because it holds its position pretty good. He does have a Twitter account. He does have a Twitter account. All right. So I'm wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Whoa. Which I found surprising. Surprise is almost modern, like, mansion of all time, like in the downtown city. Yeah. I like our version better. I like our version way better. He has like a penthouse in London. Like he private jets it in.
Starting point is 00:12:26 He's a London playboy. Exactly. He's doing everything. Go look this guy up if you don't know what we're talking about. He's a character. You got to see pictures of this guy. He's all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So the course, I agree with you. And it didn't really deliver, it didn't deliver a particularly entertaining or interesting British Open start to finish. Like I thought it was cool. It got pretty nervy there. the end when morocawa was making some putts in the last 10 12 holes and it was it'll be remembered forever
Starting point is 00:12:57 how he was just locked down he was solid he wasn't going to let up his grip um speed made a little bit of a charge cool but like it it didn't deliver amazing moments that that took your breath away or made you think like oh this is what this is what this is what this tournament is going to be remembered for and just sort of like we just kind of got through the week of the british open it felt like and that again is not really what you want you want it to be either chaotic from a weather standpoint or the course is super you know baked out where you're at the old course of st. Andrews where like every everything's just cool because you're in the old course you're in you're in the old town um which they will be there next year so i was actually
Starting point is 00:13:35 that kind of snuck up on me i feel like that all of a sudden they're just going to be that opens at st. Andrews next year which is the you know the coolest place in the world of golf so i'm excited it'll be a big contrast from royal st george's which is historic but again for us you guys that you're there. I heard the town, our buddy Link's jams hit me up and said the town sandwich is like amazing that the people and all the staff and everybody around there are like his favorite people he's ever hung out with before.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But just from an aesthetics as Americans looking at it, course didn't like blow us away. Never a glowing review of the tournament we're already looking forward to next year. We're looking like the 150th at the old course. That's what we're most looking forward to. Yeah. And the biggest takeaway is just that
Starting point is 00:14:17 Kyle Morcao is a menace. He's a menace. Not going anywhere. He's a little of that, sorry, he has a little of that tiger blood in him. Like, he just, no mistakes. None. Mistakes that he then recovers from in a very mature and calculated way. 18, he steps off driver, walks back, resets himself, pipes went down the middle. It's like, not everybody's doing that.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I mean, it really impressive finish. Yeah, to step off. And he played that whole spot. I think he had, like, something a little bit shorter. He had like a three wood or a five wood or something like that. Yeah. And so he knew he couldn't get to, like, those bunkers. and then he took a step off and was just cool, calm collected, hit the fairway, made sure there were no mistakes.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And like you're saying, the maturity of when he did make mistakes, every one of those chips, like, went long. And he was like, he was just going to miss long and in the middle of the green. If he makes the puck coming back, great. And he did. He made this one. But like, he wasn't trying to flirt with getting it within side six inches and, like, dribbled over this knob and risk it rolling right back into the shit. It was like very mature, very smart golf. He was never in like any real bunkers or any real trouble. today, except for those two instances where he kind of missed iron shots. And again, both times
Starting point is 00:15:24 he just played to the smart side of the hole, made big putts we needed to. He changed that grip, I think, like earlier this year, and he's been just putting, you know, much, much better ever since. And then he was amazing in his speech afterwards. Sounded like we were saying, it's like he prepared a best man speech. The speech might have been more impressive than the tournament performance. Just the way he steps up and he's, he does the thing that all mature people do where he's, he's, he's sort of, says thank you and and congratulates people outside of himself and then does himself last. Yeah. Where he's looking at one guy over here and he's like, oh, the crowd was so good.
Starting point is 00:16:00 He's thanking the RNA. And then finally, oh, he's thanking his girlfriend. He's thanking his family who weren't over there with him. And he got the crowd to sing happy birthday to like his coach. His catty. His catty. This guy's 39 birthday. That was his catty.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That was his 30th birthday. So he's got the crowd singing his, uh, birthday. He started off by like focusing everybody's attention on the low amateur. Yes. You know? And he's like, you're, you're going to really learn a lot from this. And I see such a bright future. And you're like, you're holding a fucking clear joke.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You're like, you're like three years older than that guy. He, at one point he goes, I was actually an amateur like two years ago. And so I get it. And you're just like, whoa. But also like, if someone had done that that you felt wasn't deserving of, like, saying to someone, I see a really bright future in you comes from a place of a guy who already feels extremely successful himself. And then column workout is that guy.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Like nobody looks at him saying that being like, dude, why are you saying that? Like focus on your own career. But he has that pedigree to the point where we all just assume that he's going to win 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 majors over the course of his career. How about a few weeks ago? He just sat down one-on-one with Frankie Borrelli. Crazy. The Borrelly bump.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Listen to him just talk like during his- Enter the room by punching you in the arm. Right? Was that the first time you saw him? Well, no. We were at the office and I was waiting for him. And it was a hectic day because I was rushing in there to interview Kalamorakaa by myself, super nervous. And I'm in this long hallway that we have at Barstall, H.Q.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And I'm talking to the guys in the production room. And I'm like, oh, what's up, guys? Like, how's your guys Monday doing whatever day it was? And then all of a sudden, someone had their head down and was punching me, like, oh, Frankie, how you doing, buddy? And I looked down and I was like, Kalamorakawa. Literally said his name just out loud to himself. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:17:44 That was like, that's the kind of guy he is. He's very, very mature. He makes you feel. super relaxed and makes you feel like he's a normal person even though he deserves all the nerves and all of like the tension around him because he has
Starting point is 00:17:59 that and we've said it a million times that tiger mentality where it's like I'm going to be an assassin out here and I'm going to murder everything in sight he never waivers. Do you think he is, I don't want to say calculated because that seems like a weird word but like when he goes to an interview like that with you at Barcel
Starting point is 00:18:16 HQ before he goes in does he have someone being like all right you're going to have an interview with Frankie Borelli. You've been on this podcast before, and they sort of give him the rundown of what he's going to do and give them your name, or to see the type of guy who remembers your name and remembers the podcast,
Starting point is 00:18:32 knows what Barstool Sports is, like knows everything that's going on at all times. Which one do you think it is? It couldn't have been a preparation thing. He had to have just known because, like, he saw me talking to someone and just rain up to me. It's like walking up to an old pal, being like, yo, what's up, buddy?
Starting point is 00:18:46 I haven't seen you in forever. That's the kind of guy. He's also 24. years old. And like no 24-year-olds need to be told like this is who this is. When it comes to something like Barstow, I think. I think he's dialed in onto everything. It's also like when you're, if somebody comes and starts working at our company, that's 24, I'm like, wow, they're pretty young. He's winning major championships. Insane. 24. Like, you know, if we get like 24-year-old like inter, like, who a person's fresh? That's a young. That's young. It's like they don't know anything.
Starting point is 00:19:15 You know what I mean? A 24-year-old kid you bring on and do whatever work with, it's like they have so much to learn and they're just kind of like glossy-eyed like just hanging out with their buddies. You're barely coming to work. You're still one of those like baby deer that like can't stand up where their legs don't even work. Right. Right. Slop it around. That's how you are at 24. He can step up the tea box at 18. Colin Morricott. Yeah. I mean, I started working here at 22, almost 21. And Dave almost made me cry like my first week. I just didn't have it. I just didn't have a mature bone in my body. Right. You'd be able to handle any sort of pressure. Yeah. I actually was 24 when I got hired at Barstool. I was, I wasn't a human being that. We've got guys like Robbie Fox
Starting point is 00:19:51 that started working here at 18. Was he 17? How old was he 22? 22? I think he's been working He just turned 23 I'm pretty sure. He's been working for five six years. That's crazy. How about this? With Colin Morcala. He's played in eight majors and he's won two of them. Two full years of majors
Starting point is 00:20:07 if you divided by four, right? There's four every year. He's won once a year, basically. He's won 25% of the majors he's participated in. That's a big, that's a high clip. Taking away overall golf rankings or in world golf rankings, whatever we're going to follow to say who's the best golfer in the world, who do you think right now is the best golfer on planet? John Rom.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, I know your answer. That's your answer. That was going to be my answer. Yeah, because the world golf rankings are weird, right? Because DJ didn't play last week or two weeks ago. And Rom did play in the Scottish Open finish in seventh, I think. And if he had finished sixth or higher, he would have, stayed number one, but he finished seventh.
Starting point is 00:20:50 DJ didn't play and now DJ's number one. Like, that's such a strange system. It's better to do with the way that Frankie's saying. It's just like, who does it feel like? Yeah, who does it feel like is the number one player? And I think it probably is relentless. Yeah, I would say, I would say the way I kind of look at it, which is like the world ranking system is one thing.
Starting point is 00:21:08 It's who's been the best over the last year or two, fine. The way that I look is like, who's the best player in the world in European? would be if they randomly picked a golf course from, you know, the 40 courses they play this year, and then they just had a four-round stroke-play tournament next week at that randomly picked golf course, who would you most likely think is going to, like, win? Odds on favor has got to be John Rom. You know, and I think it's just John Rob. I just think that's the answer.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I mean, one of the easiest sports books at bets of mine of this past week was he had a bad Thursday. T20 finish was minus one. 10 just lob some money on that responsibly but automatic to think that he's not going to claw back and be a top 20 guy was not only does he claw back but at one point he's like 10 under and the leaders at 14 you're like at some point this guy may just squeak in a win he couldn't make one putt no early on was miss miss miss miss miss miss he only lost for four to morcawa he was right there like frang he had a couple more putts went in and morcawa stumbled a little bit he just like wins that golf to me. He finished 11 on me. He made nothing today at felt. And these are puts that he
Starting point is 00:22:15 legitimately is dropping the club, has his hands on his knees, his hat comes off. He can't believe he's missing these puts. They're puts that have to go in. They're almost automatic puts for a guy like Colin Morikawa, and he missed multiple of them. He, I think, when you factor in the distance and on a, again, any given course, I think that I would have to go John Rahn. But, I mean, Morikawa at this point, he's going to elevate, he was fourth in the world. What's he going to be now? Third, right? probably of the world, somewhere around there going in. So from the official world ranking standpoint, he's right there.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He won. Harding Park was not a necessary plot-it-around type of place. Like everybody's talking about how you kind of got to bomb it out there. Morikawa won the PGA championship there. And then he just won, you know, the Open Championship in pretty convincing fashion where he was unflappable and just didn't make any mistakes. So- Speef is up there too.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Spith has been playing so well. So well. In this conversation that we're having about who it feels like could win any given tournament. Spieth is right there. I mean, think about having this conversation 365 days ago. He was 82nd in the world.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He went 65, 67, 69, 666 at the open. Who's this? Jordan Spee's. Yeah, he's... And he lost by two. And he very easily could have won that tournament today if Colin Moracawa had given away shots anywhere. But, I mean, he's just been playing really great golf
Starting point is 00:23:35 and it's honestly just nice to see. Real quick, just to get back to John Rom. You want to talk about how Colin Moracawa is an assassin? doesn't make mistakes, goes out there, doesn't let anyone jump on him. Since Friday, Morikawa went 64, 6866. John Rom, 64, 68, 66. Same. Played the exact same golf since Friday,
Starting point is 00:23:55 but he lost by four strokes on Thursday with a 71 to Colin Morikawa 67. You're telling me right now that John Romericka played the exact same golf as the assassin that we just said does not make mistakes. Colin Moroccoff since Friday? I mean, think about how much this has happened in our lives since Friday. and he just played the same exact golf. Well, and that goes back to the conversation that we always have where just razor thin. Razor.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I know. And they had the same rounds. That's how razor thin it is. Just a couple shots on Thursday. And, you know, what were those shots? Like, what are those shots? I was also, Colin, Spieth, ROM, all shot 66 today. Just like, it, I mean, it's such a story within the story.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You know, it's really amazing. Everybody, nobody picked up any ground, nobody lost any ground. ground today. Everybody went out there and just shot 66. Well, the only one of lost ground was that loser Louis Oostom. Who kept making ground on your wall. God, Barstall Sports. One of the most fun bets you can possibly have in all sports is betting on the Barstow Sports app, responsibly on a player to win a hole, to have a better score than their opponent that they're playing with. It's better in the Masters because you can watch every single shot.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You can get feature groups. You can go A man corner to the whole thing. You'll always see these stretches of golf. When you're watching it on the main coverage, a little bit more difficult. And the open app is just... And the open app is one of the worst apps of all time. They have a great Instagram. The European Tour has a great Instagram and content. They got to fix the app.
Starting point is 00:25:20 The app's a problem. It's almost like they put too much money into the content. They did not put enough money into the infrastructure. App sucks. Here's a fun stat for you for your guy, Louis Oostahuzza, Justin Ray, who just never misses. With his T3 finish, Louis Oostahusen, has now been in third place or better after 11 consecutive major championship rounds played.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Can we get Mike Francesessa saying, Oostahusen right now? Louis Oostahusen is now seven under. That is the longest such streak since Tiger Woods did it for 12 straight in the year 2000. So the last 11 major championship rounds that have been played in the world
Starting point is 00:25:54 on planet Earth, Louis Oostazen has now been in third place or better after 11 consecutive. We went on Morikawa against Louis Oostahusin. And what fucking hole was that that? Holmes made an ace from 21st to 11. 11 from 240 yards.
Starting point is 00:26:08 11 from 240. 55 yards. 53. The guy rips a driving iron at the pin. It hits the meat of the stick and almost just falls in. Should have fell in. It had a little bit too much pace from 253 yards away. And the guy just murdered us.
Starting point is 00:26:26 It was 11. It was 14. It was 16. He spread him out to the point where, like, you took a hole off. And then you're like, all right, we're jumping back on Morocco. And then he dagger you. First 10 holes of the day. Zero birdies.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Two bogeys. You guys start batting on him. And he went birdie on a 250. three or part three. Birdied the 14th. Those were his only two birdies at the death. And the 14th was devastating too. Devastated.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Because he hit it in the left rough, shipped out, had what, we don't know the distance, but a long iron in, stepped it to an inch and a half. And then the salt in the wound, because once he did that,
Starting point is 00:26:57 it was a while, you knew you lost the vet. Morikawa makes it. It would have made everybody get crazy. And it was just worth it. It was just salt in the wound. But going forward, I'll never stop doing those bets.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, so far. Because they are, so fun. Electric. Yeah, the sports book, man, it's just so much fun. Being in Michigan, a place where you can do it is incredibly fun. I decided to jump on Speed after round one when he was five under. And I had a good amount of money left over from when we were in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Would have been a big winner. And I also had him top five, which I won. But overall, it would have like netted out 10 grand, which would have been, I mean, I've never had anything close to that gambling. I did have ROM top five, which at the beginning of the week, he was plus 188 to be top five. and I was like, you know, that seems like a good deal. And he ended up, like, after the first round, you say he's won over whatever he was. He ends up jumping right in there and finishing third.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So that was good. But it is very, very fun to just have a piece in the action. And it makes golf viewing. Yeah, I know people like to get into the matchups a little bit more sometimes. We're doing the whole, you know, whole by whole challenges today, which is fun. Just the potential payout on picking somebody and then having them be even close makes it so much fun watching.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You're living and dying on every show. It is fun too, like the different majors or whatever venues that you want to bet on, right? Like, this is the open, and it seems that they have different viewpoints or locations where they have their cranes and their camera guys. Like today, we were betting these holes to win.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And, like, a guy will hit a drive and they have this crane from a mile away trying to track this ball. And you're like, give me that augusto. Like, I need every tracer. So it is funny. Like you're kind of grinding almost like the players are at the open to try and see, is this hitting a fairway? Do we have the upper hand off the T?
Starting point is 00:28:46 You're waiting until that ball drops and they zoom in to see if it's in a divot. It's a grind and it's so much fun. That also speaks to how like spread out the courses too because you can't just have 18 towers. No. So they're like, you know, what would be in a normal course only a hole away. They end up being like five holes away it feels like. So you're squinting trying to see where the ball is going to land. And, yeah, I mean, it's quite, like, I said Morikawa's like, he's just no way he's going to lose this tournament.
Starting point is 00:29:14 He was minus 400. And then Riggs, like, tough talk to me. And he was like, take the bet then if you think it didn't take it. So I ended up putting a little bit on that for just a worthless payout. But it's fun. I mean, certainly, as we all talk about, like, the delta of Spith to Morikawa is just a half stroke a day. Yeah. So when we take bets of, like, Morikawa is going to beat Oosti on one hole, I mean, it's so cut-throat.
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Starting point is 00:32:15 Where to begin? Well, he said his driver sucks after he had a shitty round in the first round. And then the cobra rep came back at him. Ben Shoman
Starting point is 00:32:27 said it's like dealing with his eight-year-old. And then he said, everybody is bending over backwards. We've got multiple guys in research and development who are cadding, computer-a-to-design,
Starting point is 00:32:37 this and catting that, trying to get this and that into the pipeline faster and Bryson knows it it's just really really painful when he says something that's stupid. Ooh, Yikes. I also picture him saying that because we've all read the quote. I picture him saying that with just a really deep sigh as he speaks, just like exhausted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You know, like he's just letting out breath as he says those words. Right. Because pushing back away from my eight year old. Just like, well, right. because Bryson doesn't seem to have too many friends right now. He just broke up with his caddy. The internet is kind of not his friend right now. The last thing he needs to be doing is going after his sponsors.
Starting point is 00:33:21 No. Like they're on his side because they're paying him. They're paying him a lot of money. Tons. A lot. So for him to start going after those people, he just, he's really burning every conceivable bridge. Right. He's going to start saying like that Bentley, his sponsor is like not a good car.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Drives like a Honda. This car sucks. Right, right. People are just moving away from Bryson. And whether Brooks had thought about it or not prior to the conversation, I mean, we need to have a bet on the basketball sports book. That's like even money that Brooks uses a cobra driver this year. Well, he had made the comments the next day,
Starting point is 00:33:56 which were obviously pre-planned and calculated. But I don't think he's going to end up using a cobra driver. But he is going to continue to publicly twist the knife on Bryson. That's the best Brooks. Because he makes it so easy. Yeah. Bryson makes it way too easy. That's the version of Brooks that I think we all really like.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Is the, not, I don't know, it's not really that subtle, but without directly even attacking Bryson, just they're talking through his round. And he goes, yeah, where he shot like 65 or everything. So yeah, drove it great today. Love my driver. Just like, just right in the middle of his copy. That's perfect. He doesn't have to address anything.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Even Colin Moore Cowell got in. Colin Moore Cowell got in on it. He was just like, oh yeah, I love my driver. I love Taylor Made. It's great. And he smiled after. Did you see what Justin Thomas said? Yeah, amazing what Justin Thomas said.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He wrote on Instagram, Never would have thought swinging at 135 plus miles per hour, it'd be hard to drive it straight. You'd think Mr. Physics would know that. Woo! With a laughing emoji. Pip plan. He put that on like Friday.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah. Oh, I missed that. I missed that too. It's just easy. The pip is real and it's working. Is that pip or is that guy's just hating? See, I get a little annoyed at everyone. Everyone just saying PIP every time anybody says anything.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It's like, people could just be people and like think. You're very annoyed right now. That's infuriating to me. I also can't hear PIP because that's what we used to call my penis when I was younger. No, we had this conversation originally too because I kept doing that and it was annoying. To I'm sure the people on this podcast where it's like, is it PIP related?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Is it not? If you start doing that every single time, it's like maybe these guys are just people and they like to make fun of the guy who's being a cry baby every single time they put a microphone. Right. And there's no real compare because. is like, Bryson is being so much,
Starting point is 00:35:41 like he's being more like a crybaby than any person else before. Well, maybe that's part of the PIP too. But like, no, but yeah. But, no, no, no. I'm believing. People have internalized their thoughts more than this year, for sure. Like, they're definitely sharing more
Starting point is 00:35:57 about their thoughts publicly this year. But here's what people have to realize. The PIP was in place last year. We just didn't know about it until this year. So everything that was like said and done the second half of last year, it was already in place. They just didn't make it public until this year. Were the payouts, though, for it last year as well?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Everything was like that. The same? What it was. It just didn't get revealed this year until this year that it was going on. But the players were all alerted, and it was a thing that was instituted last year. I also don't know that, like, comments by Justin Thomas like that, like, qualify for the PIP. That's strong. It is, but like, do they want, like, negative stuff?
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like, when they're deciding on. Well, we had said at the beginning of all this that, there is that that they put it in there like clause the other clause the negativity clause where it's like we only want positive we've you got to take that out of there because we want negative so that's what I mean at the end of the day they get to kind of choose like what they decide on what is eligible for the pip and I think the way it's weighted like social media stuff is like 10% so it's but it gets his name up there and like the SEO searches more because he's in part of the articles and stuff so I think it definitely starts to come around on it everybody seems to be coming around no No, you're right. And I do think, and I think what we're all sort of saying is, Bryson is such a cry baby and makes it so easy to make fun of that these guys can't help themselves. Yeah, agreed. And that's what I think.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And look, when we've had issues with Bryson in the past and we had them on about the pace of play and things of it, like we heard on the side from players. And you realize that, like, it is very, very frustrating, I'm sure, for many of them. And not even just frustrating. Just they're probably annoyed by the fact. that there's one person out there who just thinks he's doing it differently and like no one else has ever thought of. And I imagine that again, them as people, this is their career, this is the people that they're
Starting point is 00:37:49 with every week that they travel with, that they're probably like, fuck this guy to some degree. Totally. Right. Just he thinks he's like better or different or that he's some scientific mathematical genius. And oh yeah, guess what? When you swing really hard, the fucking ball is more likely to go sideways, dude. Like that's pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Right. Anytime you do something new. I mean, like Dave Portnoy. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like he comes into this whole new market. People hate on him, bring him down. Like Bryson's trying to do that different, obviously. But like, he's going to get hate.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And now with Bryson failing. And JT's comment, I think, is actually the most perfect one in the world. Like, oh, you're swinging at an outrageous speed. You think it's going to be, like, more difficult to hit it straight. Like, yeah. Well, we can figure that out. And when it's working, it's harder to chirp, right? Like, after wingfoot, people are like, fuck, he might have, like, figured this shit out.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Lori changed his swing. Right. But then as it starts to appear like it's not going to work, you're not going to win every single tournament with it. And then you start crying about everything. People are going to be like, all right, now it's time to make fun of this guy. He's using a five degree driver. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Five. That's insane. It's a putter. What's a loft of a putter? Three to four, three to four, I think, usually. So he's using a putter, he's using a putter. They're in a 50 yards. What is that?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Can't attack your sponsors. You just can't say this driver sucks. Especially when you got a guy like, whatever that guy's name is, and he's going to call you an eight-year-old. You said he was a rep. Is that an official title? He's just a... No, he's like a high-up.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Okay, okay. Didn't he caddy for Bryson? He was the guy two weeks ago at the match that they did in Montana. He caddied for Bryce. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. People are literally... The article I read was like...
Starting point is 00:39:25 It was, I think it was like golf week. I can't remember who wrote it, but it was like, Ben Shoman wakes in Michigan to breakfast, and then turns on the TV and sees, Bryson says his driver sucks. I could paint it It was just like this normal poor person Not poor person
Starting point is 00:39:41 But like poor guy Who's got this tight relationship With Price and who's just whatever But yeah His quote Um What he likened it to Um
Starting point is 00:39:50 He said That the American was like quote An eight year old that gets mad at you Unquote That's the guy who's fed up Fet up Imagine having to deal with this guy Every single time
Starting point is 00:40:01 His swing changes a miles per hour He wants to go a degree lower And then he's probably a lunatic trying to figure out the perfect percentages and statistics and analytics when it comes to this piece of freaking metal that they're just like dude we've been doing this for everyone else and it's been going well like you're trying to change the recipe for success and like we're out on it like I mean this guy's got to be out on it dude you talked in the article too about they'll like you know the research development team they're like 10 people that are working on all these
Starting point is 00:40:29 new prototypes and they'll because he's not using anything that anybody uses nobody uses and so then they'll like send it out to him and then bryson will get him and then literally the day that he gets him he's already requested changes to the press pass request that he had and then they're like in the lab and then they're trying to get him out to him and he's testing him and then for him through all that then just be like at the british open when he's getting pressed for all kinds of stuff to be like this driver sucks that they must be fucking rattled at i think that what this leads to eventually is bryson building his own clubs he's going to set up a shop he's going to say i don't want any sponsors anymore i'm just going to build my own clubs that's the
Starting point is 00:41:09 only way he's going to be happy but he'd have to do it's going to fire himself like he'd have to make the materials he's going to have a shop built in his house where he can right manufacture the golf clubs that he uses too because right now it's like he's standing over these people's shoulders being like again again right he takes one swing and he's just like wrong wrong wrong like it's oh it doesn't feel right and they're just sweating and bleeding couldn't you see That though, him, like, you know, buffering out, like a new, new clubs, all that stuff, just by himself. Because he is crazy enough to do that. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I mean, he's committed to it, certainly. So, like, there's no lack of effort on his side by any means. He's trying to do something new. But, like, as his caddy, as, like, people were just exhausted by him. Yeah. So our guy, Aiman Lynch, give him a shut again, his article on the piece in golf week, he wrote, But Bryson Deschambo DeShambeau keeps losing his cool.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Who will be the adult in his room? Which I think is spot on. He just has all yes people. And no one tells him clearly in his crew no. Or hey, you're acting like an asshole or a douchebag. It's just surrounded by yes people who do whatever he wants and treat him probably like God. I'm sure they're like getting paid and that's the way they've chosen to do it.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Good for them. But like the guy needs an adult in the room at some point. to come on the podcast. He needs a hostile environment to be able to answer the hard questions. Cobra, like, think about how committed they are. They're not, you know, Premier Club by any means, but they're
Starting point is 00:42:44 got Bryson. Right. And they hitch their wagon of Bryson. He's a long hitter. Like, that could take them so far in the market, etc. To have the point where now they're, like, just exhausted by him and just, there's probably a real conversation in the Cobra room of do we get out of this and just
Starting point is 00:43:00 go down another path? And think about that because bryson is the guy that is potentially could bring them to hey we have the longest hitter in the game we have x we have y doing it with Cobra and they're probably having a very real conversation to say we're good
Starting point is 00:43:15 I mean their guy won the U.S. Open less than a year ago I know and now where they are and now they're you know Ben's waking up in breakfast in Michigan being like what the fuck did you just say? The hell's going on here it's amazing the bad thing I feel bad the PR surrounding Bryson is so bad though that people
Starting point is 00:43:32 might, like if they don't want to use COBRA because Bryson uses COBRA, it's like a sponsorship that goes the opposite way. Yeah, you're right. They drop them people, like, I'm buying cobras now. Right. It's kind of the Patrick Reed we talked about he should charge companies for reverse sponsorship. Keep wearing their clothes.
Starting point is 00:43:48 They get so men. Like, I'm actually talked to our G4 team and be like, do you guys should pay him to wear for like footjoy. Right. And then like footjoy's like, God damn it. Like, what are it? A hell of a way to make a buck. Get them on the sketchers. Then he's over there when he could draw on his sketchers straight.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's basically paying for a negative. Right. So you pay him so, all right, so, all right, Patrick, you can't wear our shoes for two years.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It's a two year deal. And then when it comes back around again, he wears those shoes again. They got to re-up. They got to get him off their shoe again. It's not a forever deal. It's legitimately just like a normal deal, but the opposite.
Starting point is 00:44:22 He sends Adidas just a selfie of him at their side of the store in like the PGA super store. And he's just like, I'm about to check out with this brand new, That's how he starts a bidding war that way. I'm just thinking of a rotating selfie of all the brands behind him and he just rotates and which ones are going to be, which ones are going to be. New shoes.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I really like his genius. And he just ran his like Instagram account like that. He was like super like fucked up about it. Like he's like holding like, oh, I really like this fabric. Man, this one feels real good. It's really nice. All right. Two million.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Put it down. You know, maybe I'll get a belt too. Nike's in for four. So I don't know. Nike doesn't want me near those shirts. If you don't give me 10, I'm going to get the hat to finish it off. Patrick Reed, reverse sponsorships. I think he would make a lot of money to do it.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, I think Pete Reed and Bryson are potentially entering reverse sponsorship. Because with a normal athlete, you get one sponsor and you can wear their stuff and nobody else pays you money, clearly. His, again, it's all the opposite. So a bunch of guys, you're getting money from every company. Everybody to not wear your stuff. It's honestly genius. It's just good business. Yeah, it's just a good.
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Starting point is 00:47:33 Extreme heat may result. I think that's what's resulting. I'm hot right now. Oh, it's hot. We're in an abandoned ski resort. Yeah. Have we told the people where we are right now? They know we're in Michigan, I think.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Northern Michigan. Shout to Crosley. Yep. Whoa. So Bailey Farms. What happened was we went to Bailey Farms, which started from a lot of the listeners and followers on social. We kind of said we had a day where we weren't sure where we're going to play.
Starting point is 00:48:03 We need somewhere. We'd love to do like a hidden gem. We'd love to do a spot, right? We do these resorts. We've gone to Pinehurst, which is amazing. We've gone to like Cascada and Wolf Creek and Sand Hollow and Rio Seiko out in the Vegas area, which again is amazing. But they're a little more higher end. It's like destination. It's just, we're like, we want to hit a spot while we're up in northern Michigan while we're in the Traverse City area that is more like what we all grew up playing. where like the common man, the common woman, the common golfer goes and plays, good value, really cool track,
Starting point is 00:48:32 what's a hidden gem, and people recommended Bailey Farms, and it turns out that they, Crossley, and I believe was it Melissa? Was that his girlfriend? Yes. They reached out to me and just said,
Starting point is 00:48:45 hey, we're like 24, and we just bought this golf course. I know that sounds insane, but it would mean the world to us if you guys came to Bailey Farms and played our course, we'd love to have it. We're done.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Well, they're the nicest. people on planet earth um chris who was our guy that was finding all the golf balls the hound bison at home i was calling him bassett he just found every golf ball but um long story short get to work too they found a lot of them they've got they've got this frankie put him to work course that they just took over the ownership like a month ago um and then they've got a few they've got a condo in within 20 minutes away they got like a lake house and they basically just changed our entire last two days by being the most hospitable people the world, I think. Yeah, I mean, we actually really haven't talked about any of the good luck that
Starting point is 00:49:33 we've had because the last podcast we did, we were just getting to Forest Dunes. And first of all, Forest Dunes, awesome. One of my favorite places I've ever been to in my life. I will be back. I will be doing a buddy's trip there. That's how good of a place that says. You guys will all see this. We'll probably talk about it at length at some point. Maybe when the series comes out or something but forest dunes phenomenal people there phenomenal um but anyway we had nowhere to stay well we stayed on property the first night yes at a place called the warbler and it was fantastic it was this house right on the lake beautiful right on the golf course takes two minutes to get to the loop or or the dunes wherever you're playing and we only were able to stay there one night because
Starting point is 00:50:20 we're idiots and we booked this so late that it was only open for one night and then the original plan was to stay there one night and then the next few nights stay where? Gaylord. Gailard. Which is 45 to an hour away. Gailard. Producer Jake's favorite town. Maybe an hour and a half away? It's far. It might as well be
Starting point is 00:50:40 10 hours away. It's just far. And after staying in the warbler the first night knowing that we then had to go to like some hotel an hour and a half down the road, we started making comments when we would go to dinners with everybody being like, uh, we're not leaving. We told, we're
Starting point is 00:50:56 not going to go anymore. We told Tyler, who is one of the guys there at Forest Dunes, at one point he was sitting across from us at the bar at dinner. And I was just like, yo, dude, like, I'm not leaving tonight. And he, like, gave me a laugh where he wanted a laugh in return. And I stonefaced him across the bar. And I said, I'm not leaving. Right. It was one of those things where you say, and everybody, Frankie's like, yeah, so we're not leaving. I know you probably have other people scheduled to be there tomorrow night, but we're going to just be squatters. We're going to stay there. Everybody's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. That's great. And then we, we. You kept saying it, and it got less funny to them each time.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And Tyler's in charge of, like, guest experience. Right. That's his job. Yes. And he's like, ha, no, like that's been booked up the whole thing. So, yeah, ha, ha. So then what happened? Well, then we, uh, well, the reason why we wanted to stay so bad is because we were coming back the next two days because we had two more things to do.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And also, we were out there late night playing like glow in the dark par three golf with shoes off and beers in our. hand and it was a resort type experience. It's a resort. It's an absolute golf. I would say for our group, our crew, this has been the most fun trip. 100% not even close. It's been so much fun. Before that, though, we were, so we were in Gaylor for the first night.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Then we were over there and we're all having McEnuto cigars out on the deck. And that's really when it started. We all looked around. We're like, we ain't fucking leaving. We're not going back to Gaylor because we just escaped jail. And so we're on this deck overlooking the lake, getting ready for this trip. And that's where the I'm not leaving Joe kicked into play. And then when we got out glowing the dark balls the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:52:29 then Frankie gave him the stone face. Couldn't leave. At the bar where... Tense were discussed. It's not that I'm not leaving. I can't leave. Tense were discussed. You wanted to just...
Starting point is 00:52:39 I was fine of that. Riggs and I were going to get into tent. I brought up the idea. I guess I am more of a hotel room guy, so I wouldn't have gone through that. So what did we end of settling? What ended up happening? Settling.
Starting point is 00:52:50 We're having... We're at this bar, the bootlegger bar, at Forest Dunes, which is where we recorded the last podcast, and it's right at the start of the part three course, the 10-hole part-three course. You start there and finish at this bar. We're out there having a late meal.
Starting point is 00:53:03 It's what, 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night. Chad, who's the head pro up there. He's with us. We've got Tyler. We got low. We got the whole squad. No, everybody's out there. We got a whole group of people.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And we start, like you said, putting pressure on it. I'm like, ah, ha, ha, ha, it's going to be weird when we just don't leave. and then somebody threw out the idea of, because we were talking about who we know, Matt Janello, we know we've had him on this show. He's a good buddy of mine. He's one of the best people of the world of golf, and he knows travel and golf destination
Starting point is 00:53:36 better than anyone probably in the world. And he had done a podcast on the Fire Pit Collective, which is really good, like an in-depth podcast about Forest Dunes. And this guy, Lou Thompson, who's the original owner and kind of built it, and he very recently sold Forest Dunes, but he still has a house
Starting point is 00:53:53 that overlooks the 18th hole on 4th, was do. The biggest house on property. And he's there not very often. So they were like, by the way, Lou's house is just empty and it's got room for a million people. So you actually maybe, we didn't realize you really knew that.
Starting point is 00:54:09 You maybe call Matt Janella and he might be able to call Lou and see if he can get you in that house. And I was like, done. I had a handful of Trulies at that point. So that's not a problem. Called and talked to Maddie G. Had a great conversation.
Starting point is 00:54:21 He's like, I'm going to hit Lou up the next morning. we get to the first hole of the loop, the black course, we're playing in reverse order this time. We're on the first green. Everyone's a little. We had to pack up that morning and put everything in the car.
Starting point is 00:54:34 We don't know if we have to drive the four hours back to Gaylor. The idea was we're going back to Gaylor to producer Jake's favorite place on Earth. Right. And then I got a text message that just said, you guys are in. I talked to Lou. Here's the garage code.
Starting point is 00:54:48 He's got golf carts in there that you guys can use. And the entire trip changed from that point. 100% man we're staying on the biggest house on property right there by the 18th hole on the forest dunes golf course it is a phenomenal estate we're driving carts from the bootleger bar down the eighth hole of forest dunes up the ninth hole of forest dunes onto this road back to our house we have all of our own rooms i had a bath i took a bath i blew a few killed all the power in my room too much jet power hit that bottom i saw this bathtub it was a jacuzzi yeah the whole thing going on all all the jets. I was living, man. We had macanudos. We're drinking trullies.
Starting point is 00:55:27 We got the whole thing. I'm sitting in there. I fired those jets up harder than a jets ever been fired up inside a jacuzzi. Yeah. And I'm sitting there. Was your little body bouncing around in the jets? I'm sitting there and I'm just like relaxing and everything's working. And all of a sudden she goes, doong.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And just stops. And a minute or two goes by and the jets obviously are not going anymore. And I'm just sitting there looking down at myself floating around. At your pip. I'm looking at my pip just like, it's almost just like, I don't know. It's almost like a electric eel or something. It's kind of just like, man. It floats up and just like it just goes up almost like a buoy.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And I'm like, your body's the anchor. I'm like, this has become weird. I'm now naked, staring at myself, kind of just floating around. And I just got into the shower and I erased that from my memory as fast as I could.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Is that when Taddy's power went out for the weekend? Or did you never have power? No, that's not. I shower the dark there. I don't know. That was weird. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:56:25 Got him. Sorry. I showered in the dark. I jetted my dick on. I jetted my dick off the water. That his lights blew out. And you know what? Trent sitting there doing whatever you're doing.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And now a sudden he's in the darkness. I'm sitting in there like, oh. And you know what? I'll take that. I feel like I partially deserved it because what we didn't say about the warbler originally is you and I shared a room. And I snored so. loud that you only got two hours
Starting point is 00:56:55 asleep. So if you're going to knock my power out because you got the jets on and you're trying to relax because you finally have a room to yourself that's, you know, you don't have a grizzly bear sleeping next to you, I'm okay with you knocking my power out. But outside of that, outside of showering in the dark for two days, Lou's place was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:57:11 So great and it wasn't a hotel in Gaylord. It was a mansion on the golf course. And it was, like you said, Riggs, it changed the whole trip. Changed everything. The whole dichotomy of the trip the future the outlook the yeah it's just when you have a however many hour drive looming the whole day four to five yeah oh it just ruins right in that there in that area it ruins just the whole mindset it's like we're not even on a trip we're on like a day trip it's
Starting point is 00:57:40 almost like a chore like we're doing a chore all day whereas then it was like you hunker down you post up you squat you have a bed to go back to people could come and go as they please we had like a nice fire pit in the backyard so a big thanks to matt janella for kind of making that phone call. Big thanks to Lou for obviously letting us stay in his home. And then the Forest Dunes crew for having us. It just was a blast. It was as much fun as people that like what we like can have.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Yeah, we don't have to get so deep into the golf courses and stuff. But the loop is the most unique, fun golf course I think I've ever played in my life. And I think we say that about a lot of different things like that I've ever done, I've ever seen, I've ever played. And this is like legitimately set in stone. I don't know if I'll play another course like the loop. I mean, it was, especially where it is, like the fact that it's only a two-hour flight from New York City, you feel like you went to another part of the world. And it's an 18-hole golf course.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And then all of a sudden the next day you play it backwards and you don't even know where you're at. You didn't see those bunkers now facing you the day before when you were driving over them. Somehow they're now facing you, and it's just its own golf course. It is, and for all shapes and sizes, for all skill levels, for all types of people, that want to go play golf, you don't lose balls off the T as much. The ball runs forever. It's almost like a traditional open golf course where like it's just hard, fast, firm, fun. The greens are crazy, but they're also, you know, if you, if you're playing well,
Starting point is 00:59:06 they're very fair. Just the coolest golf course ever. And then the Dunes is, what, like a top, like 200, what was it? Top 150 course in the country. Quickly, though, on the loop, I got to think that that idea, that creation of golf course extends itself now into like east coast because certainly on like a limited piece of land if you can make more golf holes
Starting point is 00:59:28 by just adding T-boxes and playing in reverse if you can make that happen like I got to think that gets adopted by more courses because it truly did feel like basically you play this track clockwise and then counterclockwise there's different T-boxes, different greens the nine and the 18th green are the same
Starting point is 00:59:46 everything else is different and I just think on limited land If you can basically double your golf course Double the feel with the same amount of land Like you just do that it's a no-brainer And like members get behind that It's just so cool for the resort Right
Starting point is 01:00:01 The fact that if you're staying on property You play the red and then you play the black the next day Right You just played the same exact layout Completely different golf course Right And it feels different And the team boxes
Starting point is 01:00:13 There's no T-boxes They have these little flags on the fairways So everything is essentially just the same fair away from the T-box to the front of the green. It's just so unique, so cool. My stomach's rumbling right now. I don't know if you just heard that. Can't be because you're hungry because we just crushed.
Starting point is 01:00:27 We just crushed food out of you. Huge sandwiches. But yeah, you know, Forest Dunes, I cannot, cannot recommend it anymore. And then, so I don't know if you guys want to talk a little bit more about Forest Dunes, but we got to get into what happened with our luck as the week progressed, where we are right now. That's where we started. We started with, we started at Bailey Farm. It's a progression of luck.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah. progression of luck. Because, yeah, like you said, we could, at Forest Dunes, we had that until Saturday morning. Yep. And then we just had one night left over on Saturday night where we were going to go to Bailey Farms. Which is pretty far. It was, what, an hour and a half drive from Forest Dunes? It was a little bit closer to two.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Two hour drive. We drove past Traverse City where we're going to be flying out of today. Literally driving right through it and past it. And then we were going to play Bailey Farms, fill all day, drive all the way back across Traverse City to Gaylor. which... Jake's favorite town. The worst town in America. Nothing against Gaylord
Starting point is 01:01:23 or the people that lived there. It just sucks. It's just nothing going on. Well, it's just not... We came here to play golf and it's just not close to any of the golf course, which I would say is the biggest... It wasn't close to anything we were trying to do.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Right. People at the hotels were nice, so I don't mean to say that it sucks. No. For us. And also, we seem to have come to Traverse City in Northern Michigan during maybe the busiest time
Starting point is 01:01:45 in the town's history. Because you hear that it is on like, biggest weekend at Disney. It's crazy. Strawberry festival or something? Even in Gaylord, there was a big festival in Gaylord. So, like, it's just... All the hotels are book solid, and we got a big crew.
Starting point is 01:01:58 If you're going to visit the Mitten, now is peak season. I mean, it's perfect summer. It's... Yeah. Forgeous weather. The whole time we were here, the weather was perfect. The whole state of Michigan considered the Mitten is our area. I think it's just the...
Starting point is 01:02:10 I think it's really where your fingers are. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, I think that's right. I like that nickname. Palm is not part of it, but we're up in the fingers of the... the Mitten. So we finally get to Bailey Farms, knowing that once we're done with this, we're going to have one of the worst nights of travel back to Gaylor, back to Traverse City in the morning.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We have to find a place to watch the open, to do this podcast. It was a nightmare going up to the first T of Bad Bailey. We said going to the course that our one goal of the round is to find other lodging. Well, we said we were just going to tell Jake, we are lodging here, even though we all looked on our own apps and it was all unavailable and sold out. We said, we will We'll be lodging here tonight. Somewhere. We're lodging up in here. In this general vicinity, we're just going to be lodging.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And then we get there and Krosley and our crew are incredibly friendly. And they're like, yeah, what's your guys playing? We're like, oh, we've got to drive back to Gaylor, the worst place in the world today. After we play golf and then we got to drive all the way back to Driver City, but we're going to play. We're going to have a good time. And then after nine holes, we're getting burgers, which they took care of. Thank you to that. And which were phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Really good. Food at the halfway house. It was really good. or just at the clubhouse. And he says, hey, by the way, we actually have a condo
Starting point is 01:03:22 that sleeps comfortably, like probably nine people that's like 20 minutes from here and it's right next to the beach. And we were just like, what, what did you say to us a lot? And he's like,
Starting point is 01:03:33 yeah, nobody's there. It's like an old abandoned ski resort, but the condos is good and sleeps tons of people. And we were like, we just hugged him. We did.
Starting point is 01:03:41 We did. I mean, he saved us from Gaylord. And this is the second golf course we went to where they saved us. from this horrific town. And I tried to say to you that you didn't necessarily accept. That's the Midwest.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It apparently is. Like I've never been offered up somebody's abode. Yeah. So, so easily and so just nonchalantly. So easily is just like, here you go, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You want to stay there? Like we've got towels and getting, they're drying right now for you guys to take showers. We've got TVs and beds and everything's been made. And they came in and they, They clean the place up before. It's just like, what? And on top of that, before you guys go to that condo,
Starting point is 01:04:23 how about you come to our lake house, we'll have a cookout, we'll have a fire. On the beach. We'll have drinks. It's on the beach. On Lake Michigan. We'll play this new cool game that they came up with. Sinkhole.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Which, first of all, we've been, and I actually said this to the people that were at the property, their friends. It was a very nice night out. We made a fire. We smoked cigars. One of the best views I've ever gotten. That'll be a top five nine of the year for me. Probably a top five nine of my life.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I agree with that. That was amazing. Sincerely. That was great. It was just like the fact that, yeah, the fact that it all happened so fast and so easily, it made it that much better. But anyway, we're on this beach and you're looking out and maybe one of the best sunsets I've ever seen, which I didn't know you could get this. You get a West Coast sunset on the lake because, you know, you see it through the horizon. It just falls into the water.
Starting point is 01:05:11 There's a sailboat going across where like that orange sun just dips on the water. a sailboat just went right across it like a painting phenomenal stuff. Is it the manate two islands? Is that the? There's these two islands. It makes it look like Monterey Peninsula. But no crashing Pacific Ocean. It's like this calm.
Starting point is 01:05:28 You love the gentle aspect of it. I love the lake. You said so many times. You said something very surprising to me where you said you'd much rather end up living on a lake than an ocean. If I had to choose my ideal mansion house with a beach back backyard like the house that we went to last night, I would. rather choose. And this is like excluding the golf and like the way of life and all that stuff. Sure. If you're just telling me what view do I want and what lifestyle do I want, I'm picking that
Starting point is 01:05:56 house on Lake Michigan with that view a thousand times out of a thousand over like some chaotic, ridiculous on the cliffs, ocean crashing. It just seems like a little bit more stressful even though it's really a beautiful area like Monterey Peninsula. This was serene. It was serenity. Yeah, I agree with that. The lake is so peaceful. The beach at that, lake there's no seaweed i could be a dumb dumb but what is serene is serene surreal or serene it's like sort of calm okay it's very serene i mean you went in for a dip it must have been a delight i always stuck my little toes in there but it was cold any body of water lurch was pop in the top and go that one of the best bodies of what have you ever swam in who had to be up there how clean
Starting point is 01:06:36 was it incredibly clean so there's like a clean and shower when we got back to the con yeah what's that about a lake shower hold on did i shower last night no you said i took a shower in the lake You said to the lake shower. The water was that clean, man. It was. It doesn't have soap in it. I would say I was maybe 50, 60 yards out, but you're still in like eight feet deep. And you could see the bottom clearly.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That's amazing. No, I know, but not every. It's perfect. Usually clear lakes have, for whatever reason, rocks along the outside. That is like usually a very clear lake for whatever reason. Sandy Beach Lakes, I've never seen with this type of clarity. but yeah it was I mean it was gorgeous
Starting point is 01:07:17 and I always put on the hard sales pitch of like who's coming in with me like I looked at Tea Daddy Jake went in with you he certainly did I think that was the first smile out of Jake that I got oh there's a little We've said his name probably
Starting point is 01:07:30 10 times trying to get a smile He hasn't even looked up Now he's stubborn he refuses He's acting like he's ignoring us Although he's wearing headphones That our voices are going directly into his head It is probably We play a little game just to get our eyes out of Jake
Starting point is 01:07:43 We have hundreds of thousands of people have to listen with that. So we got this fire going. We're eating food. We brought over a bunch of prosuit. We stopped at the market. We got prosuit. We lost Frankie in the grocery store.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Lurch and I were walking around grabbing Skittles and devil day. Just children we're shopping through. Just coated sugar. At some point, I don't remember when Frankie wandered off. And we went and we found him buying a large portion of prosciute. I got a pound of presuited de
Starting point is 01:08:13 And we got a little bit of Brie. We got the little chips that we're going to go with it. It was a fantastic evening. And we're playing this game called Sinkshot. Sinkhole. Sinkhole. Where the people out the beach, how do you say his name? Crosley.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Crosley. I don't want to call them the people at the beach. It's Crosley and Melissa. They are the gracious hosts that had us there at their beach house. And essentially they said that they were at a beach one night and they brought cornhole bags. And they didn't have, or it was too windy or. something happened. They didn't have bags, but they had this soft softball, basically slow-pitched softball, but the soft version, right? And it's the one that you played like in middle school with
Starting point is 01:08:52 because it wouldn't hurt someone if it hit you. And they basically played a combination of beer dye and cornhole. And it is the most fun game of all time. You have a beer in your hand. You can only catch it. You can only catch the ball with one hand just like beer die. And you basically play it like beer die with cornhole sets. So you're throwing this ball and the ball barely fits in the hole so if you get it in the hole it's a game winner if you hit it off the edge and it falls down onto the sand it's a point for your team just like beard eye if you hit the edge of the circle and it hits the ground which you always know if it hits the edge of the circle because it changes direction that's two points and if you hit the edge of the circle and you catch it's one point
Starting point is 01:09:28 really fun game we had the time of our lives playing out there it's a dicting game it's a I think everyone should adopt this game I think we should sell it if we're being honest I mean that's what I said to you it's like we should sell this game the fact that it's just two games mixed together. Who cares? Also, I don't know if I've ever picked up like a soft softball
Starting point is 01:09:45 like that. It's gonna be hard to find those. We gotta find those. They have them in like middle school gyms. Come on with something. We'll just make them. The other thing that was
Starting point is 01:09:52 we're gonna make this outrageously comforting is that our view because we were standing at the beach looking at the sunset. Dude, so the second game.
Starting point is 01:09:59 It was a cheat code. The second game that mean Chris played we were on your guy's side originally and he looked at me and goes can you believe this fucking view? Dude, that's what I meant about
Starting point is 01:10:09 the Bromoran Peninsula. It was an island that like, like drifted into the ocean in the background. I felt like I was in Maui. It honestly looks like Hawaii. Yeah. That's what that scene looks like with those. Once we went over there,
Starting point is 01:10:19 it felt like our view, the previous game, we were looking into like industrial New Jersey. That's what it felt like. And then we looked over here, this is, this is delightful. It was just,
Starting point is 01:10:29 and the game's fun because you catch it most of the times. You feel like you're good at it. Keeps you moving. It's also got that ounce of frustration because it's so hard to get the ball in the hole that it keeps you committed to trying to do that. And it's great because like that, you know, if you make it in the hole, it's just a win. The game's over.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And it is really, really hard to do. Fantastic game. So shout out to them. And now we're in his condo and we're doing the podcast. We watch the Open. And it's been a great, it's been an absolutely great day. Great experience. Great week.
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Starting point is 01:12:28 You can't stop ripping fart. This is crazy. I'm sorry. Twice. That's two. That's two. In the day. Rip farts in people's faces.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Oh, dude. It's hot in here. Oh, speaking of. Dude, I apologize. Very selfish. I know. Sorry. Speaking of.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Update. Riggs. Yeah. How's your asshole? I would say it's, um, I'm feeling significantly more comfortable and optimistic about it than I was the last time we did the show. Have you gone to the bathroom the last week? Oh, yeah. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Yeah. Because. Totally fine. When we first, when we did the show, what was that Tuesday show? I don't even know what day it is. or Thursday show. It was bad. Well, that was also within minutes of the first reveal that I had a bloody situation.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yes. Soil to short. And I panicked. And I was like, if this is just going to bleed, like, I'm not going to be able to play golf. We just got here. This trip's ruined. It turns out I think that was actually an outlier in that result. Now, it's still a little bit here and there.
Starting point is 01:13:29 But it's been, I've been given advice by a lot of folks, thank you, of drink water and consume a lot of fiber. So you guys noticed I was eating like fruit at times and just different things with fiber so that you're, you know, try to control the situation and the stool and on that. But I'm, people were hitting me up like you have hemorrhoids. You have, I'm convinced it's just a slight tear. And some people said it could be from just using toilet paper too aggressively. Yep. Which is very, very possible. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Also, traveling man, you use all different types of toilet paper. All kinds of different stuff. So, right. And sometimes when you go to. you know, Gaylord and these towns, you don't have the finest toilet paper. Yeah, and you know, no. So I'm 100% of it's that because I don't want to get too graphic again. But nothing is actually, no blood whatsoever is in my stool at all.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Everything before butt's bullshit. Excuse me? I said everything before butt's bullshit. I don't want to get too graphic, but. Yeah, that's fair. Nothing is coming out of my stool whatsoever. And it's not, again, in any given moment, it's not a pain whatsoever. It's just when I'm, you know, cleaning the situation or trying to be.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I think that cut can get irritated based on like sitting a certain way. Somebody told me like whenever you're going to the restroom, going number two, don't take a long time because that makes blood rush to just the general area. Got it. And so like I've been just doing the minimum, not the minimum. I've been trying to just do general improvement ideas to. Don't bring the phone in the bathroom as rule one, I would say. Well, that's just one example
Starting point is 01:15:08 Was like the I can just get in get out quickly But just you know The way that I've been sitting even like in the cart Most of the trip was like Instead of sitting with like everything spread wide open I think that's bad for it So try to keep it kind of closed And I've been mostly fine I would say
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'd also like to say and no spoilers Because just watch the travel series When it comes out in the future Play pretty fucking well Yeah Yeah this is my best week to go for sure For sure We thought it was going to go the opposite way
Starting point is 01:15:34 We thought you were going to be so uncomfortable. You couldn't even sit when we did the last podcast. And then we were going to have to go play a bunch of golf. We were sitting in carts. Instead, it went the opposite way, and you just played great. That's true. And I think maybe part of that is like a mental relief where it wasn't. My expectations had gotten so low in that my comfort level that once I actually wasn't that discomfortable, uncomfortable, that I was so happy.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And just kind of like, wow, this is like, lucky. I was so happy. so happy my assholes That it worked out That would work out great But yeah I think overall we're gonna be okay I just have to continue to do
Starting point is 01:16:12 Kind of preventative measures For making it worse And it's a sensitive area It takes a little bit of while to heal That's what they say Okay happy to hear it Happy to hear it Who knows it could go south
Starting point is 01:16:21 No pun intended Be pretty rude to say You're not happy to hear that news Yeah No Glad for your butt Yeah everybody out there Just applaud Rick
Starting point is 01:16:30 Nobody should go through that Stop farting down there At least while we're all here. Yeah, no, I mean, two and I'm done. I'm done. Tighten it up. A couple other things on my notes here. Morikawa's first 50 PGA tour events as a pro. He's got five wins, two majors, four major top tens, $14 million in career earnings. He's only played in eight majors. Terrell Hatton flipped off the fans and then broke a club in the same round. Very funny.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yep, very funny. Had to like that. Classic Tyrell. Classic Tyrell, who I called him Tyrell the first time, and he just called me out on it. big time. The stars, I have to talk about the stars that are in the sky, at Forest Dunes. Crazy. One night, because again, we were doing the global thing, which the globe ball, what was that, what was that company's called? Night Eagle.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Speaking of Stars, though, I think quickly, I think there was three balls in a row at one point on the green, and Frankie goes, oh, man, it looks like the big dipper. And I said, do you mean Orion's belt? Do you remember that? No, I think I said something even worse, which takes a big man to admit this. But we were driving up. Oh, those look like the northern lights. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:36 That's right. It's just three balls perfectly in a row. But yeah, the stars, when you get away from the city, when you get... Fly fishing was like you're in an airplane and you're like... You're in a helicopter. No, that's not true. I thought it was... I thought it was...
Starting point is 01:17:52 I thought fly fishing was those fish that fly into your... Oh, into the boat? Into the net. You know when you're riding through those crazy rivers and they fucking are flying all the place. I thought that was flyfishing. What a sport that would be. I mean, there is something, there's a name for whatever that is, and it should be fly fishing. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Boat fishing. Okay. Starrs. Dumb name. I don't, fish fly into your boat. Right. So it's got to be a blend of those two things. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Boat fly fish? Yes. Boat fly fishing. So we were doing the night golf at the bootleger with a bunch of the staff. We had like 10 people, 12 people. And they pull out the, you know, glow balls around. And then at one point, someone was like, oh, yeah, by the way, like, look up. and we didn't remember with that.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I'm telling you, as people that have lived in cities, basically the whole time we've been doing this podcast where you don't see shit because of pollution, I had been a long time. You could see billions of stars. You could see the Milky Way,
Starting point is 01:18:47 the hue of the Milky Way, and man, literally the hue of the stars. It's so cool. There were so many stars. You could see this like, this like faint, just bright light of all billions of stars
Starting point is 01:18:58 behind the ones that you could see. Like you feel like you could touch the stars that were right in front of you. There's so little light pollution around here that the last night people were saying the moon was too bright. I mean, so like that's the only thing dumbing down. How many stars you can see is the moon? I mean, in New York City or around the area, you see the sun and that's it. You're happy about that.
Starting point is 01:19:19 We could see Saturn. It was just because someone pulled out, Avery pulled out his phone. That's right. And we were like, what is that bright-ass star? And he looked out, it was just Saturn. It's so cool. Jupiter. We could see Saturn.
Starting point is 01:19:31 And I know people that probably live. in remote places or like more rural places or probably just like yeah that's what night time looks like but again being in big cities where for you know the last 15 years for me and mostly for everybody else it's like you just never ever ever really get to see that and especially like even if you're in a pretty remote place like a lot of times you're you know you have lights on and you just can't see it and you wouldn't think to like go outside and so we did we kind of went out into the middle of the first fairway on the bootlegger and just looked at the stars for about 15 minutes and it was mesmerizing. So the stars up here
Starting point is 01:20:04 phenomenal. Speaking of Star Guy, at Cabot, Riggs got so mesmerized by the stars one night. He just laid down the fairway and looked up. So big time... Just slept in the fairway. Big time. I heard the music going out there and I went out there and woke up. Brought my phone house. I was going to come from country music
Starting point is 01:20:19 and just looking at the stars. Somebody sent me a video about how astronomers think the galaxy will end eventually. Oh boy. I'm talking the entire galaxy. Here comes darkness. Well, no, it's just fucking So this video was basically a time lapse of what they predict will happen.
Starting point is 01:20:36 At one point, there will be nothing left. Which is kind of a crazy thought. But we're not there yet. No, it was like 1,000, which it was funny at one point, they went to 1,000 at a point because it just kept getting bigger. It was like 1,000, million years, billion years, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, and it was basically, all these things that happen, all these things engulf each other. the lights die all the stars die they cannot build off of each other so then the lights just go out at one point and then from that darkness build something else where like it encapsulates all of its
Starting point is 01:21:10 the surroundings and then that thing dies and then it's just nothing they call it like the big rip nobody knows that they don't know that no and they call they have it has a name though it's amazing you can relax ever with a big thoughts running through your head and and you got and and you got like 60 years left right no I don't care it's just the idea right Everything would just be nothing. We're talking trillions. Why do I have to do anything? So many things are going to change in that time that you don't even know.
Starting point is 01:21:38 But you just got to worry about the next 60s. It's amazing how fast you can do a scratch on the record player and bring things to a totally different dark feeling. If at one point there is nothing, why am I doing anything? That's Jared Krovis. Well, then why don't you just die today then? If you don't enjoy living tomorrow. Oh, I do enjoy living.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I'm just saying there's a thought that's just like nothing. matters. But that goes two ways. The other way to look at it is like, this is it. Let's make it cool and fun. Cool. If you got 20 days to live, are you just going to call it? Stop sending me these videos.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. Stop sending Frankie like black hole videos because then we'll be sitting. We had this exact conversation just in our cart out at Bailey Farms. We were just plodding along and he goes, I watch this video where everything ends. I was like, okay. Oh, no. Let's just, let's talk about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Oh, no. Yeah. Bottom line, Michigan's awesome. It is. I'm so glad we came up. up here and look there's if any one of us went through our DMs right now or emails like there's dozens of courses that we didn't get to that everyone's recommending Arcadia being kind of the obvious one that we did not get to and I do want to again
Starting point is 01:22:46 reiterate that like the Arcadia thing wasn't like a negative it wasn't like an FU it was very clearly they're like yeah we'll approve it we want you guys to come film but it needs to be for us we really want you to capture the whole thing stay on site, breakfast, dinner with the suns setting, the bagpipes, film both courses. And we were like, we're coming in two weeks. All their lodging was full. The tea time, tea sheet was pretty much full. And they were just like, yeah, that's not going to work then, but like maybe next year.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And we're like, no, this is like when we're coming to Michigan. So it just didn't work out in that standpoint from Arcadia. But maybe it gives us a reason to come back and film more of Michigan. I know there's some really good private courses up here too that a bunch of people. told us to go to. It doesn't really fit the scheme of the, you know, series that we're doing where people can go play golf courses. But boy, am I very happy that we went to Forest Dunes and stayed there for three days. And then the Bailey Farms, you know, we'll do in a month or so. These videos will come out just like the other travel series with their in-depth. We interviewed a ton of people,
Starting point is 01:23:47 every shot. But Michigan's really awesome with the one exception of, and this is the last thing in my notes, of Lurch's driving, which is just horrific. I got to drive to the airport right now Dude you're really You're really a bad driver and it makes me upset We're talking about driving a car We're talking about driving a car Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah These guys have a lot of beefs with it What do you think about it I think it's I think it's outrageous He was fine Yeah I So when we drove from We're a backseat driver
Starting point is 01:24:16 Yesterday we drove from You have to be with you We stopped you from getting into crashes Three times by No Well we drove from I mean we could just live To go for Forest Dunes to Bailey
Starting point is 01:24:26 different opinions. Exactly what happened. We had three other people here. Yeah, I didn't notice it as much, but I did, what I did notice was while we were driving that almost two hours from four students to Bailey, Frankie didn't say word to the point where I thought that he fell asleep, but he was actually like taking mental notes about how bad Lurcher's driving was. It's not bad driving where he's swerving.
Starting point is 01:24:46 He just doesn't keep his eyes on the road. You're an eye contact guy, and we've talked about this on the podcast. You legitimately need to look people in the eyes. So when you're driving a car with five other human beings in it, And you're going down these one lane roads where like if someone coming your way just like swerved or something, you wouldn't see it. Because you're looking at Trent having a conversation. And you're looking at all the houses and the views. Dude, I took a video of him at one point because I thought I was going crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I saw the video. And a 12 second video you look at the road for almost two seconds. You're down at your phone and you're looking. One, two, three, four, five. You look up. You look at Trent. You look at the road. You look at the house.
Starting point is 01:25:24 And it's just like a 12 second video. why you looked at the road twice. It's something. I apologize for that if that's the case. And that's for two hours. The song, the music, or the phone was just for a music change once or twice. Dude,
Starting point is 01:25:37 it's bad. He is less of a, I wouldn't say the phone is his crutch. Because a lot of people do have that where they are like, it's too much. Yeah, I wasn't looking at that much. But I do. GPS or checking Twitter.
Starting point is 01:25:50 But you are actively engaged with a lot of things that aren't the road. You guys were rustling around with those. And I would say like, here comes the view. And I think it was Avery in the back was like, well, that's our view. You actually need to keep your eyes on the road. At one point, you guys were rustling around with coffee cakes from Starbucks or something. And you're just going through a green light. Everyone else around us had stopped to a halt because a police officer was burning through a red light with his sirens on.
Starting point is 01:26:15 And I screamed, stop. And the police officer legitimately hit his break, swerved around us and kept going. You never would have seen it. That's just death. No, I saw. At one point, at one point pulling up to a light that had a bit of a backup. And we're getting closer, we're getting closer. And from the backseat rigs just goes, break.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Break. Oh, yeah. That was weird. I don't know why. Because you were breaking. I was breaking in the cars in front of us. You're all backseat driving. It may sound like it's not backseat driving.
Starting point is 01:26:43 It's, it's, you got to keep your eyes on the road. I'm losing tea right now. You're just more five other guys in car. Someone else should just drive. I got to hit the road here. You're so stubborn against it. Why don't you like, you want to be in conversation just don't drive. I would have driven and just watch the road.
Starting point is 01:26:56 At one point, you put your hands at 10 and 2 and you looked on the road and you said, what am I supposed to drive like this? Dude, that was the best part. That was a funny joke. And I hope the listeners are I hope the listeners don't think that we're just being hard on you to be hard on you. You legitimately said, what am I supposed to just drive like this? And you actually put your both. That was a funny joke.
Starting point is 01:27:11 You put both your hands all the way and you look straight. And we said, yes. Did you laugh? Yeah, because of how preposterous I said that word again. I I, I actually, I got to go catch a flight. But let's two more minutes. until the second. Two more minutes.
Starting point is 01:27:25 No, all I was going to say was that, like, I never felt like I was going to die. Appreciate that. You were too close to it. I know, but you're all, you're just not as actively involved with the process of driving as most people would like. Yeah, and I would say that it's, you can't call all this just back to drivers because I've driven many times. He's driven many times. He's right. And never has been brought up.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Startling. And it's like, I just worry about other people making a mistake and you not being aware. I don't think you would ever swerve into a road. You just look at people. when you're driving. That's what your biggest thing is that I'm a conversational. Yeah. Bro, we're having a conversation about like the All-Star game or something and you're just
Starting point is 01:28:02 looking at me. No, no, no. I'm saying, I'm trying to think of anything we talk about. And you look back and you're like, oh, you think that. And we also like, your head is just turned to me. We're looking for coffee and you're like leaning your head around windows looking around. We're like, just watch the road and we'll look for the coffee. Trying to solve a problem from our guy.
Starting point is 01:28:19 But you know your problem is to get us from A to B. We did it. Frankie's right. You're not swerving and going crazy. Yeah, you're not swerving and going crazy. He's worried about your reaction time to a mistake that someone else might be in the backseat of a court. No, and I'm not trying to let you die in the back seat of the car. I'm glad we're on the same page.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Hey, boys, in closing, great trip. So good. Dunes is incredible. Loop, Forest Dunes, and then Bailey Farms. And the people. So great. So fantastic. Hard to find better.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Hard to find better. Impossible, really. I don't know that you can't. We came here with, honestly, minimal to nothing in terms of our plans. Trip couldn't have worked out better because of the people. I had low expectations. Because we've been to the best courses in the world. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:29:09 And all of a sudden, you're like, oh, forest dunes. You're looking at like, oh, where's that? Middle of nowhere. Bailey Farms, what the hell is that place? I mean, some of my favorite place I've ever been. I love you all. Safe travels, works. I love you.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah. Good trip. A lot of fun. and we'll see you on the other side. Next trip, book your flights when everybody else just does. Yeah. Please.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yep. He books flights like they're Uber's. Well, here's the thing about this flight. It's crazy. 5-10 flight out, direct to look at here. Get out of here. Get out of, because I'm flying.
Starting point is 01:29:37 We're not flying direct. How many seats are you? There was, I think I got the last one. Fuck. You didn't tell these guys that till now? I mean, what? I was happy I got the plays the last one.
Starting point is 01:29:48 You booked it four hours ago. Right. We could have gotten on this flight with you. No, because I was the last one to get. to get it. Okay. Yeah. All right. Get out of here. Dude, you have... When I get there, I'll have 45 minutes.
Starting point is 01:29:59 5.10 flight? TSA pre-check. 510 flight. Yeah, but you got to check your... I hope you're not booking a bag. I am, but I'm going into the city tomorrow to pick up... Do something for AXon, so I'll just swing by the airport and pick up. No, they won't let you check. You're not going to let you check a golf bag right now. See you, boys. An hour before the flight, they close it. No, yeah, it's 45 minutes. No, they like won't let you get on.
Starting point is 01:30:21 That happened to us and Pebble. that that's when we were going to pep. They won't let the bag it on. Yeah, exactly. Go put it on tomorrow. Okay. These guys had all figured out. Uh, truly hard saucer. Let us know if you make it.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Good luck, Lurch. I hope you make it. Routing for you. That's tight. At this point, we all know the classic is back and that means truly is back. Look, we drink, I don't need a, uh, we don't need to put a number on it. We know truys. You know?
Starting point is 01:30:44 We don't need to put a number on any of any of that. No, no, no. But I also don't need to read the ad copy. Oh, yeah. People know what truels are at this point. They know that we like truly's. It's as simple as that. It's just a thing that just exists in our world.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And we're just talking about the people of Forest Dunes. And every time that we started one of those rounds this past week, they put a bag of ice for truels in our cart. And I had no real intention of like drinking. We're out there filmed. But I was like, well, there's Trulet. Like, I just have to, I have to drink a couple truilies. Have to.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Boy, they are just delicious. Every flavor I pulled out of there was great. They had 16. Who knows how many flavors now. We keep coming out of new stuff. But they've got the. the punch flavors. They got the lemonade flavors.
Starting point is 01:31:24 They got all the originals. The blueberry assayee was one of my favorites this week. They're so refreshing. It was 75, 80 degrees a lot of these days out there. You might get a little hot. Boom, you get a little refreshing truly. We had them on the beach last night.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Yep. Refreshing, tasty. Just good mindset. It's a good mindset drink. You feel like you're relaxing when you're drinking. You are. You know you're in a good, relaxed state. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Or that it's going to at least help you get there. You're not drinking truly when you're like doing taxes. You're drinking a truly when you're golfing. That's right. You're playing, what was the game called? Synchol. Synchol. That's what we had Trulies.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You're doing stuff like that, and that's fun. Super fun. We had a great time with it. So, big thanks to Truly Hard Salter. They're the title sponsor of the Barstall Classic, which when you people are listening to this today, you can't really say you people. When you listeners, when you listen.
Starting point is 01:32:12 You just watch a topic done in the day. It was pretty funny. You listeners are listening to the show. Really good movie. We'll be doing the Barstle Classic Monday in St. for, so that's tomorrow, as I'm speaking right now, but you might be listening on Monday. See, everybody's having a bunch of Trulley's having a good time
Starting point is 01:32:28 enjoying the summertime. Whether you're on a boat, you might be on a beach, you might be at a bar, golf course, wherever. Truly's the perfect drink, 100 calories, 5% ABV. They're great, really good. So a big thanks to Truly. All right, gentlemen. What a week? Fun week. A really fun week. A really fun week. Yeah, we're going to head to the airport
Starting point is 01:32:47 here pretty soon, but just shout out to Northern Michigan. Northern Michigan, man, a special place in my heart. Instantly. Won't be the last time I'm here. No chance. Yeah, if you're from here, you got a nice little piece of property out here. And if you're not from here, come check it out. My boy Luke from Rockville Link sent me up. He's from Michigan. He goes, and he saw my picture and he just goes, the motherland. He saw our picture from last night. And he's like, that is America right there. That's what I know. That's my home. And like, that kind of made me feel something. Like looking out at that lake, knowing that people just live here.
Starting point is 01:33:19 here. But that's his, like, that took him back to his home. When I see the pencil at Jones Beach, I'm like, oh, the motherland. I'm on the island. It's like this pencil. It's like, it looks like a pencil. That was like, though, him seeing the Coliseum. Yeah, which like, which has like meaning, but it's just not beauty. No, it's grindy. This is fucking beauty. It's, I, I guess, I almost just said this out think about it. It's just very pure out here. Pure Michigan. Like, I know that's the thing, but it is pure out here. It is. I don't think you're hard enough on Lurch about the driving. You know, you could, yeah, if you're not harder, you're going to be complicit.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I think you now let people think that we're being hard on it to just be hard on. Your criticisms are valid. Thank you. I want that to be clear. Thank you. I just want, I wanted to give a little support just because, because I never felt super in danger, but I know that it, like, it grinds your guys' gears when he's looking around and talking to me and you're you like I said your guys's criticisms are extremely and
Starting point is 01:34:24 Frankie's got the best point of them all which is that I might think you learned for the best driver in the world but if you're not looking at the road and some other moron think about more like idiots that think about when you're in a Walmart or when you're in line to get on a plane how many idiots are out there in the world and now they're just behind a machine going 70 right right at you and like if they just make a little mistake and you can't just be on alert and like readjust that's the that could be the difference yep and he's just not paying attention no classic case of talking about his back again i had to bring it i just had to bring it up just because i know i it's just crazy you got need to help we just can't let him drive no i can't let it yeah i'll i'll i drive most
Starting point is 01:35:01 the time anyway where's the next trip that we're going to band and dunes oregon that's going to be that's going to be so we've got northern trust at liberty national coming up we'll be out of northern So folks don't know this, we'll be at Liberty National pretty much the entire week. Definitely Monday through Friday. We'll be doing a couple of live podcasts. We're going to be trying to interview players. Then there's a couple different areas that we're going to be hanging out.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I mean, it's going to be really fun to have fans back in the New York area. Especially at that place. At Liberty, which we love. We were out there a couple weeks ago, and it's stunning. It's got some of the best views in New York Harbor. You're right on it. And so, yeah, folks should get their tickets and come out because we're going to be playing or we're going to be enjoying it the whole week, the Northern Trust,
Starting point is 01:35:42 at Liberty National, so that'll be kind of one of our main next events. And then a few weeks after that, or the following month, we're going to be abandoned dunes. Very cool. Hell of a stretch of golf. Hell of a stretch of golf.
Starting point is 01:35:55 I'm excited to abandon. I got left out of that abandoned trip a couple years ago, so I'm excited to see it. There's that one golf course that has no bunkers. Sheep's Ranch. Yep. Get a lot of tweets about that place. I'm sure you are.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Because I'm now on a crusade where I want to, abolish bunkers and get them off every golf course. I'm going to try to work on that. Maybe get some legislation in place. But Sheep's Ranch apparently has no bunkers already. So that sounds like heaven to me. Breaking 100 coming on Thursday? Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Wow. Yep. At the Village Club of Sands Point. Yep. And boy, should you mark your calendars for this one. Ooh, buddy. Boy, should you mark your calendars for this Breaking 100 episode. You're saying that right now.
Starting point is 01:36:41 It's Sunday. the open just ended. Colin Morikawa is the open champion golfer of the year. I'm letting you know to watch Breaking 100 on Thursday. Yep. That's all I got. All right. Congratulations to Colin.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Congratulations, Colin. We'll be back on Thursday. We're going to have a few of the segments that we came up with. We're going to do a few of those. And just, I don't know, do what we all. How long was this podcast? There you go. Didn't get it again.
Starting point is 01:37:10 We didn't get it again. Speaking of segments. We came up with the. came up with a 90th minute at 9. What is it called? I don't remember. 90th. It was originally 9th green at 9th. 9th green at 9. We were going to do every 9, the 9th minute mark. We get just a random soundbite from Happy Gilmore. And then we settled on the 90th minute. Like when we go long, 90th minute and then we've just never been hit with him. And we're 0 for 4? I think so.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Shooter McGavin, right? Sure. Sure. And we're supposed to come at the 90th minute. Of every single podcast that we do. cool segment idea I came up with that we kind of workshopped in there and we just never done one of these days
Starting point is 01:37:50 yeah one of these days we'll get it we'll get there we will uh we'll be back on Thursday hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard

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