Fore Play - Morality vs. Money: The Crux Of The LIV Tour

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

The idea of a 105-mile long linear city in Saudi Arabia is insanity. Sergio Garcia pulls a complete 180 on the European Tour. How weird has the landscape of golf become since the idea of the LIV Tour was brought to the table? A Scottie Scheffler vs. Fore Man Scramble matchup in the works? The show finishes with some questions From The Gallery that get Riggs, Frankie and Trent thinking.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Dan Rappaport just tweeted Charles Howell 3 on his decision to join Live, quote, money was not a factor, unquote. It's just a lie. Just a lie. Four play, we have Barstool Sports. We have Trent Ryan is now back. He is, are you standing in your apartment?

Is that what's happening right now? Yeah, I'm standing in my apartment because sometimes when I sit and record, I have, so I, a couple things. I got a couch that I sit on when I record and it makes my legs go numb when I stand up because we record for two hours. And then I stand up and my legs are jelly. I ordered a desk. The desk is coming, I think, in a couple days. So I'm in an in-between period where I don't have the desk yet. And I don't want my legs to feel like jelly when I sit down for two hours.

So I'm standing in my kitchen, recording the podcast. Hopefully you can still hear me because on the last. episode my internet was just shite as our guy trotty would say and I was so bad that I felt like I was messing with the flow of the podcast where I would I would leave you guys would freeze so I'd have to jump out and I would jump back in you guys be talking about something completely different that we were talking about then when I left so then I'd feel like oh what did they talk about and I just bailed because I felt bad yeah we talked about you a little bit after you left oh what did you guys say nothing we were just one yeah we were like trying to figure out like

How many? Would you say, Frankie? Oh, no. We just tried to say, like, how many options did you actually go through to try and fix? Like, was there ever an option of, like, running out of the room and trying to get, or like calling in? You know what I mean? Like, was there a point where you just sat there and you're just like, I'm done? You know what I mean?

We thought, we thought it was after option. We were just like, all right. Like, I'm done. It's just, I'm going to sit here. No, because, like, what, you want me to jump on a phone? That sounds like shit. And then I, you know, I miss half the conversation. and then I'm in and I'm out.

I just think that messes it up. So I just sat there and I said, I'm done. Yeah, I don't think we even thought you made the wrong decision. We were, we were just kind of running through the options of, you know, what? I can feel the vibes. What did your checklist look like before you just put, close your laptop and said, I'm just not doing it today. Sorry I was trying to do what was best for the flow of the podcast. Yeah, no, so big of you.

I'll jump in and out with my bad internet next time. That is so big of you for the listeners. I appreciate that. All right. We got quite a bit to get to, per usual. I think people have been asking kind of, are you guys going to Myrtle Beach? Like, because we've been talking about it a lot.

So a little update, we're going to Myrtle Beach for a travel series in September. And then we're going to Big Cedar Lodge for travel series in October. So we got two big things coming up. Myrtle Beach. So I'm starting to get pretty jacked up for Caledonia, Golf, and Fish Club. and for true blue because people are all hyping these things up talking about Mike Strance, Tobacco Road. I think Tobacco Road is the only Mike Stran's course I've ever played.

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Tiger, it's the year of the tiger. Roar, if you didn't know that, you're the Tiger. So if you're not particularly up on your culture, if you don't consider yourself a cultural person, newsflash, it's the Year of the Tiger. So we've got these tiger-themed hats. It's a golf podcast.

So we threw a little bit of golf in there as well. Frankie's wearing one. I'm wearing one. We got a bunch of other ones back here. sure that I can showcase, but you can go check out store. Oh, I got them right next to me. I've got them right. So I'm wearing one.

This is the retro hat, which I think is probably one of the best sets we've ever put out. It's got that green bottom. Dude, I love the green under the bill. Ooh. I love the green under the bill. I just saw that. I don't have my head. Yeah, yeah, that thing's nice.

Everybody should get that. Look how good this one is. Oh, we got a bunch of them. And then this one is the athletic wear, which I think a lot of people like. And it's like really, really soft. like, I mean, really, really light. Like, I'm talking as light as anything, and it's got it right in the corner.

And it actually looks really good on the head. So go to the website, go to the store. Dot barstlesports.com. Check them out. You're the tiger. I mean, how could you not want this animal on your head or on your body when you're playing the game of golf? It's just, it's the best animal.

It's our favorite animal. And it represents a lot of things that we love. So, uh, they knock the same. Tigers are like tigers will kill fucking anything. I mean, anything. What kills a tiger? SUV with no brakes? Yeah, I was to say like, um,

oh boy, sorry, that was bad. I mean, couldn't, right? Car without a chauffeur, maybe you could, you could, you could go out of that. Yeah, like, no, not even. They probably feel like they get gored by whatever they're trying to eat usually. Not usually, but I feel like that might happen sometimes. Something they're trying to eat has horns and they do the fucking thing jabs them in the heart. You know, hippos, I feel like hippos are sneaky dangerous.

I don't know if hippos kill tigers, but I feel like a hippos fuck shit up, and we think of them as lovable like big teddy bears kind. I think hippos are one of the most dangerous animals in the world. Is that right? Lions top of the food chain, right? King of the general. The top of the food chain.

I know from Lion King, I think that's true. But then hyenas can kill them. They got to have a whole pack of them, though. Species and top of the food chain with no predators of its, So it also called an alpha predator or apex predator. Frank Borrelli? Yeah, they got a, uh, uh, uh, jaguar. I'm seeing it up there.

I can't be it. Ooh, polar bear's a good answer. I feel like in that part of the, that, that read, those regions of the world, the polar bear fucks shit. Um, you ever, remember when we were talk, I think we talked about this a couple years ago and like we were first getting into the drones and I saw this video about this lion. First one that came up, lion.

Awesome. This drone was following like a hawk, like a bald eagle or something like that or one of like the crazy, crazy hawks that are like an apex predator in that area where like nothing can get around it or kill it. And essentially this drone was trying to fly behind the hawk, the eagle. And it had to put on like silence suppressing blades because if the eagle, thought that there was something following it at the same speed and height as it was flying, it would then fuck up its trajectory as being like an apex predator and like everything that it knew in its bones and its brain and its makeup of like how it's supposed to live and how it's supposed to be in its territory and environment would get fucked up by this drone because then

it would be like, wait a minute, there's something else out there so we can no longer hunt the way we hunt. You know what I mean? That's fucking crazy. that we could do that as humans. You introduce a new predator. Yes. And however they communicate, they're like, there's something else out there. But then my brain goes to- We're fucking shit up.

We're just, we're messing up Earth for sure. Okay. I agree with that. I do agree with that. But then isn't, couldn't it just be that, I mean, we are living, breathing things that could fuck them up because we have drones that can fly at the same speed of them. Maybe they want to know about that. they can recalibrate a little bit.

Like we're a part of this thing, even though it doesn't feel like it sometimes. Like we feel like we are an outsider because we're conscious and we make computers and we make little chips and we make the internet. But like we are still a part of this thing. So maybe that fucking eagle should know that we can make drones that fly at the same speed as them. Yeah, but it'd be one thing.

Like if we were messing up, um, you know, a certain part of like flowers and plants in the, jungle but we're fucking up like the jungle the ocean the sky we got drones it's like i think they're we're a little bit overstepping i think it's like kind of stick to one stick to one thing to fucking ruin and then uh uh the ecosystem can handle it when you're just kind of everywhere i think that they're a little bit like all right guys you kind of got a monopoly on ruining things around here

i'm largely on your side there i want to say that i want to be clear on that but we are still a part of this thing but i i agree with you we should probably leave something alone because we got our hands in just about every pot you can't. They're hot, you know, this is very hot on the streets right now, the Saudis. And did you guys get tweeted about this linear city that they're like trying to build in the middle of the desert? Yeah. What the fuck is that thing? That is like the most, who would ever sign up to be a part of that?

It's the scariest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. It's a city that's like, I don't know what the, I don't know what the, it's like yards wide or something. Like, you know what I mean? It's like not, it's just one road of just millions of people that go from left to right. And they're within this like glass city. And the glass goes as high as the Empire State Building. You're like stuck inside this thing. And it's supposed to be no roads, no driving, no airplanes, but you can make it to work. You can make it to a restaurant. You can make it to a club. You can make it to a bar. All within these like walking tunnels. It looks like a fucking movie. And they're actually going to try and build it. Because like it's supposed to help,

Like, there's no carbon emissions and there's no like, I don't know how the hell they even expect to do this. Carbon conscious. I like to hear that. Yeah, they're great there. You know, there's kind of real conscious of things that improve society. I mean, I'm looking at this thing. Wow. This is a, this looks like an absolute nightmare of this fucking thing.

Oh my God. It's a prison. Autonomous services. Right. If that's our future, my point being, if that's, that's our future because like it all comes back to what you guys are just saying like we're making wait too much of an imprint or footprint whatever they're saying on this planet and like they're trying to come up with futuristic cities on like how it's going to be how it's going

to better whatever the environment if that's the answer I'm sorry I'm out I'll say now I mean the more I'm watching this this thing looks kind of sick I mean it's it looks sick but it's it's like a lego land it looks like legoland it's like if that's the future of cities I'm glad I'm living in time that I'm living in right now. Like I think we're in the hot pocket of like of, of easy living when it comes to like, because at some point they're going to have, in thousands of years, they're going to have to make a decision on how to make cities like not pollute the air because the sun's going to fucking burn a hole through the ozone and we're all going to die from heat and,

and all this stuff. So they're going to have to make a decision where life's going to get worse compared to what it is right now. Does that make sense to you guys? Yeah. Yeah, potentially. this is just this thing is straight out of a move uh you know a movie from hundreds of years blade runner this is out of like the matrix where there i mean one of these

this like there's like this canal that's going through like a cave with a mix of digital towers i mean this is we can't have this shit feels like a it's like a dystopia it feels like to me is what it looks like Yeah. It's also one of those things that's just never going to get built. It's like it's almost like, like stadium renderings that Gleney Balls likes to get all hard about. Glennie Balls will see a stadium rendering for like the 2027 possible Tampa Bay Rays that's like down in Port St. Lucy. They're going to move this team and it's going to be on the canal and he'll he'll post like seven blogs about the architecture and how it looks like a sailboat. And then it just never fucking happens. Like all these stadium architecture posts are just, They never happened. I remember I used to get so jacked up about Coliseum architecture posts that they're going to redo the Coliseum and it's going to look like a fucking lighthouse and they're going to have a guy, a fisherman, like, stabbing a fucking fish outside the fucking stadium and like none of that shit happened.

None of it. I don't know. There's not, I agree with that over here, but there's not a lot of red tape in Saudi Arabia. It just takes one guy to be like, I want you guys to do that. and they just the the the crane start going they start building that thing in a second so that might happen i guess we've had like some things like that here i mean like that fucking new apple headquarters is like straight out of the future where it's all circle it is yeah we drove right by it yeah that thing's fucking a little freaky looking too where it's like there's no it's all one circle hallway and

they figured out a way to just move everyone around completely but then remember that they had problems with people running into the glass in the building. All glass walls. So they had like a couple lawsuits on their hands where people were just dummy in these glass walls and just shattering. It's like the glass outside. Some people are prepared for the future. It's like the glass outside U.S.

Bank Stadium in Minnesota for the Vikings. The birds were all flying into the corner of like what it looks like a ship and they were just killing a million birds. Yeah. It's just, you know, not everybody's ready for this. Not everybody's ready. I, you know, is there like a timetable on this fucking linear? thing? This looks like it would take, I don't know,

250 years to build this fucking thing? Yeah, no, it's, you're talking, it's going to be a, it's like a mirror glass wall the size of the fucking Empire State Building and height and like miles upon miles like cities upon cities long. So I don't, that alone has to take 20 years. It's 75 miles long if I read that correct. Okay. So yeah, this is not in our lifetime. Holy fuck. I wouldn't want that. Who wants that? Who wants that? Nobody wants that.

Nobody wants that. You know what people do want? Trent breaking 90. We got another episode tonight? We actually don't. We have Steph Curry playing tonight on our YouTube page. Honestly, sorry, Trent. I've seen the footage of this and it's even better.

We filmed every single shot of Steph Curry, one of the biggest athletes on the planet, hitting at the Barso Classic with all of like his little one line. and just talking with Jay Rich and the whole in our crew and Hannah Cook and me, you, Trent, Riggs. The whole crew was there. It's a fucking phenomenal video and you get to watch him hit amazing shots. You get to watch them hit bad shots and react to them. It's really cool. It's an amazing video tonight.

Oh, yeah. Essentially, Steph Curry is playing, like, breaking, like, his own number on our YouTube page tonight. You know what I mean? Like he's tried to do like a 72. Trent's got the week off, you know, he's just, uh, option of the podcast and just said, I'm not going to do, you know, I'm going to give this week to Steph Curtis. I've been practicing. That's why I took the week off.

You haven't get a good time to schedule to do. Yeah, I mean, I have to. If this is actually going to happen, and I got pretty close last time, actually, really close. If I didn't, you know, if 15 goes differently and the third hole goes differently, we could be having a different conversation about a different series. I wonder if the listeners will care, I mean, the viewers will care if we just go back to the same place because I actually think it'd be kind of cool to watch. exactly how you take that same course again. And people can, people are so invested in every single shot you take that now they'll be able to compare

what decisions you made on whole 15 last time that caused you to make an eight. And then this time that caused you to make a four. Like I do think we should go back to Rockville and do that. I don't know if it's next episode or the episode after that. But like, I like the comparison of like, all right, last time we did this. Because it worked when we were in the bunker incident. It was like really cool to play five again.

So I think that in the same series will be good. I'm with you. And I love that place, so I would go play it again. Obviously, you know, I would go back in a heartbeat. I don't know if people want that. I have no idea what people want. But we might go there next time or the time after. But I want to go back to Rockville because I do think that's where I play my best golf.

I just know that place really well. Also this week, we just had trouble getting on a course. Like I messaged a million different people and there was like ladies night at a lot of places. Everyone's like, why do you guys always go to these clubs? It's like a lot of the public courses just telling me to go fuck off because we're asking for like a group behind us to have a buffer group and we're asking to have this crew come in with two camera guys, two guys playing and it's like going to be filmed. It's going to be posted.

And a lot of these local clubs on Long Island that aren't like the elite of the elite clubs like that promotion and they like exchange that with us for like being able to go out there and play on their course. A place like Eisenhower like won't even accept my phone call. They're like, what's your tea time? Where's your passport and what's your fucking driver's license number? I don't know any of that stuff. So we're not going to come there.

So a lot of people have been messaging me about that. Like why do you always go to these clubs? It's just easier for us. And this week we had like a lot of trouble getting on because of whatever, member guests and all these events and shit. So we'll be back next week. Yeah. Simple as that's sneaky harder to get out,

especially right now in the middle of summer when golf's popping. Like public tracks are just, there's people all over the place. And if you're going to go out and film and try to do the whole fucking thing, you kind of like are in everybody's way and you cause a ruckus and public courses don't want that. Like we actually run into that lot. Right. So, so yeah, that is a good point.

Like we we try to document a lot of more like muni places that people go. But at the end of the day, a lot of times it's just fucking easier to go to a club where they're going to take care of they're going to block a T sheet for an hour or so so that we can kind of do our thing. So that's a good point. Way to go. Let's let's give the people a little bit of justification for why we do shit. A couple things we really, really got to get to. I got an announcement about next week and the Wyndham championship. We got Sergio Garcia reversed himself.

We got the Scotty Sheffler video I want to talk about. and then we have a bunch of from the galleries to get to. So first, we're going to talk about game time. We mentioned Steph Curry video coming out tonight. Steph Curry is one of the biggest draws in the world in terms of sports. If he's coming to town, especially as defending champ, this upcoming season, game time. Game time is the best way to get there. If you want to go to the winning championship next week, game time, game time, game time.

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At the time, they just gave up four runs in the first inning. I'm on my way back from punk practice. And I'm like, I want to go to this game tomorrow. It's Max Scherzer versus Domingo Hermann. How am I going to get there? I'm sure it's a hot ticket in New York. Right when I got home, I pulled up the game time app.

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So next week, Kevin Kisner is the defending champion at the Wyndham Championship. People recall he won like a seven-person playoff with that put after Adam Scott missed on the first playoff hole. So he is the defending champion at the Wyndham Championship next week. He made the tournament do pre-tournament media via Zoom because Monday he will not be on site because he will be playing in the Barstool Classic Championship or the Barstool. classic stop in Pittsburgh, uh, with me. And then he hit me up yesterday. And he said, Hey, uh, I've been talking to the tournament director. Obviously, he's like laughing at the fact that I'm not going to be in town on Monday. I told him why. And he said, oh, if you're going to be with rigs, why don't you just bring him on the jet after the tournament Monday down to the windom

and we'll get him in the pro. So kids hit me up. And he's like, do you want to go fly down with me to Greensboro and go to the Wyndham championship? I was like, yep, I sure fucking do. And so. Monday post-turning at the classic. I'm going to fly with Kiz down to the Wyndham Championship to Greensboro. I'm going to stay till Thursday night. Then I've got to go to D.C. for the classic. But I'm going to be all over the Wyndham Championship for a couple days. So I've never been there before.

Kiz is a defending champ. I'm going to play in the pro-am, which I assume has to be Wednesday. I don't have all the details yet. But if people were there, I actually think we've got a pretty strong contingency in that part of the country, Greensboro in North Carolina. We've obviously done a lot in North Carolina and that in South Carolina with kids and all that. So excited. been to the Wyndham Championship.

Feel like we're going to a lot of PJA tour events this year. Again, that might not be a quinky dink with a lot of shit going on in this world. But I'm going to be there next week. And it's going to be a huge week for our boy, Kevin Kisner, because he's going to be a defending fucking champion, which didn't even cross my mind that he's a defending champion in a PJ tour event next week. But yeah, very exciting updates. Maybe I'll see people out there.

So you say that we've been going to a lot of PGA tour events, but oddly enough, the PGA tour has yet to reach out to us, right? Like, it's always been individual tournament directors that just have a a good head on their shoulders that are like, we should probably get more people involved to get their eyes on this tournament. But yet have we received an email being like, we actually want to partner with Barstle Sports to be able to showcase this tour that is getting flushed down the toilet right now with like all bad media and all this shit. I guess, but we're definitely being allowed to go to these tournaments. Like, I don't know if it's those tournament directors, you know,

individual decision to who they allow. I feel like they probably got to run it up the flagpole. some point. It just feels like the PJ tour event door is more open than it's ever been to us. It's very funny though. They're like, you know, they're like, oh, David Faradie, here's like 15 million dollars to cover live and Ford play. We're going to now allow you to come on site to our turn. We're like, yeah, fuck yeah. That's great. It's just, yeah, the whole thing is I don't really know. Like, we're kind of just taking it. We're like, thank you, mommy and daddy. This is great that we're allowed to walk around. I'll play in every pro.m I can possibly play it. Like, if you want to start sending me proams. That's the way of keeping me away from $25 million is like just keep

giving me proams and then I'm just going to keep saying yes to those. That's my answer. Like I just want to plan as many pro ones as I will say that just makes us the worst negotiators on the planet. But if we get to plan more proams then fine. Yeah. Give me proams and like a gift card to Taylor May when I walk in and then like a new pair of G4 shoes when I walk in and then I'm done. Like that's all I really need. Dude this guy, Mark, he's like, Riggs, if you want to come down, put you the pro am i'm gonna put you up in the best hotel right across the street from the course and i was like dude if there's anything you need for me to promote the tournament like whatever free media you need for me i'll just do it it's totally fine just make my life

better so yeah we stink at this clearly like people are getting tens of millions of dollars or over the place and we're just like a gift card and a and a tea time fuck yeah i'm just in um so yeah we probably need to re you know reconfigure regroup our strategy but point being I'm going to be at that windham next week. I'm going to be plugging that shit all over the place. Probably slinging tickets. So come on out. You know, if you're around and then maybe we'll regroup post PJ tour season. That's crazy that that Kiz is the defending champion. And the reason I say that is like time is just different now. Post pandemic, post-COVID 19, time feels different. If you would ask me, when did Kiz win the Wendom? I would have said two years ago. So it just feels

longer for whatever reason. It's bizarre to think the Ryder Cup was way less than a year ago. That's fucking crazy. You know, like at this point last year, you know, like we were, we were pushing for a completely different Rider Cup team, especially me. I hadn't even gotten to the point where I was drunk tweeting about kids in Europe. That hadn't even happened yet at this point last year. Crazy.

Yeah, something's different about time. I don't know what it is and I'm never going to be able to figure it out, but something's different. getting older things are getting faster maybe it's probably true but if you had a rider cup was please try I was just thinking yeah the rider comes like nine months ago

feels like two years yeah feels like we should be on the precipice of another rider cup plus with the live I feel like live has really changed time in terms of golf as well just made you I don't know it feels like more drama more shatter more serious considerations about the landscape of professional golf have occurred in the last three or four months than the last three or four years total. So it just feels like there's been a lot more that's gone down. Speaking of Liv, Sergio Garcia had a little bit of a little bit of a reversal. It's not a full reversal.

I was a little confused by this because I saw it even came across a little notey came across on my score app. A few of my buddies were texting and a group text about it. Like, oh, wow, big 180 from Sergio. But the way I see it, Sergio, in one of his little baby fits post British Open, was like, I'm leaving the European tour anyways because I don't feel loved. And everybody was like, oh, he doesn't feel love, he's leaving. And then last week, a couple days ago, this week, I guess,

it came out that he has reversed that decision. He's not going to resign from the DP World Tour, aka the European Tour, after conversations with John Rom and a few other little tidbits that have been coming out. but I don't know that's even going to matter because in the end of the day, like if he doesn't resign from the DP World Tour, but the DP World Tour is like, yeah, no,

you still can't just be on the Ryder Cup team because you're a live guy now. That's not him reversing course. That's just him kind of saying, I think he kind of just said, I want to play Live golf, and I want to play a little bit of DP World Tour so that I can still play in the Ryder Cup.

Right. That's how I see it. So he just wants me, he wants cake and eat it too, right? That's pretty much what he, what he wants? I don't know, yeah, I don't know if he even knows what he wants. Well, I guess he does know what he wants, but he doesn't know how to get it.

And I don't think he's going to get it. Like if he's a live guy, then I don't think it's going to happen. It would be my guess. Right. So, and then like, I guess now John Rom is in a spot where he's been trying to get the tours to negotiate because if, if guys that are clearly core figures of the European Ryder Cup team can't, that choose to go to live, can't, play on the rider cup team, that screws European Rider Cup team forever.

Because, I mean, they already got steamrolled last year. If they won't have any chance going forward, they're going to need to at least be able to put forth the best players that they can because once you get to that bottom four or five on the European Rider Cup team, it starts to get pretty scarce when it comes to a lot of the top named talent. So he's kind of panicking about that. So, yeah, I don't know where exactly it's going to go. The thought, you know, we talked about it pretty bit, but the thought of Sergio Garcia

and Lee Westwood and Hedrick Stenson. and Ian Poulter never being European Rider Cup captains because they chose to just go to live is a fucking monumental in the history of golf. I do wonder, and just playing this thing all the way out, like if live doesn't succeed, which right now it seems like it's in a position to succeed. I don't see it going away anytime soon.

But if at some point, it just, the bottom drops out, something happens and all the guys just, they're like, we're done with this. And it ceases to exist at some point. If that happens, this whole thing is going to feel like, a fever dream in golf. Like, we'll think about it in a way, like, remember when guys were just handing over their Rider Cup eligibility for a paycheck?

Like, we're living in the middle of it right now. And like I said, right now, they're doing far better and getting far more talent than anyone ever predicted, maybe outside of Greg Norman. But like, if it ever just doesn't succeed and these guys eventually have to go back to the tour or whatever, this is, we're going to look back on this as just the strangest, weirdest time in golf because it really made guys decide. It made them make decisions that we never thought they were going to have to make. And if you had had these ideas theoretically and been like,

all right, Henrik Stenson, you're the Ryder Cup captain. That happens at some point. Say this is in the past. We're saying, hey, Henrik Stenson. In the future, you are going to be the Ryder Cup captain of the European team. But somebody is going to knock on your door, offer you money. But that money comes along with losing your. Rider Cup captaincy, what would you say? And at the time, this is in the past, he would have said,

hell no. The Rider Cup competency is a dream. If I ever got it, it would be a dream come true. But we now live in a reality where that theoretical situation came true and he took the money. That is so crazy to me. And if whatever fails or it doesn't work and guys have to come back to the tour, it's going to look even crazier, even crazier as it looks right now. Yes. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's Weird, dude. Yeah, it's something, it's an existential crisis to a system that we've just had our entire lives. It's the only thing we've known is PGA tour. That's how you come up. You play college golf. You know, you play corn fairy tour. If you're lucky, if you're not, you got to do the Brooks Kepka, the Kalim Terran. You got to go to Asia, Europe, whatever, work your way up.

The dream, the goal. You get to the PJ tour. You win a PJ tour event. You cry. You're family runs on the green. It changes your life forever. And then you get in the majors. And if you can win a major, you have done it. You are the cream of the crop. You are the best. You're the bell of the ball. You can now, I mean, look at, look at Trevor element. Wins one major, the masters. Now he's just in the chair for the next 30 years of one of the most coveted positions in golf broadcasting because he won a major championship. He did the thing. And now after, you know, decades of that, it's just something completely new where people are throwing away all of that, right? Right? Like Phil had, Phil is a good example.

Phil was going to be a Ryder Cup captain. Phil was going to be in the broadcast booth. A few years ago, he was in the booth dumbying Nick Fowler, and everybody loved it. We're like, here's the future. It's Phil is going to be this elder statesman. He was the assistant captain for the Ryder Cup team this last year. First time he wasn't actually on one in like 30 years. And it went great.

The guys loved it. They're all telling stories afterwards about Phil, you know, on their feed on the walkie-talkies, how funny he was. And it was like, he's the guy. And then within mere months, it was just over. And Phil now is a walking villain. I mean, he walks around fucking, he doesn't even have his logos on. He's wearing his own logo.

They don't cover them. They refuse to put him on TV. He's got like the weird kind of salt and pepper going on that I've never seen him have. He's shooting 50 over every time he plays. It's like people. And that happened because of what you're saying, Trent. And it happened to Phil. He's one of the biggest names in the, he's the second biggest name in the game

over the last 30, 40 years. but it's clearly happening to the other guys on smaller scale because they are a smaller scale and that they're smaller names. But like Henrik Stenson, gone, like literally went from captain to gone. I don't know if that's ever happened before in the history of the writer. Definitely not in the modern era where he was the captain and just had it stripped. And he's not alone. These other guys to the point where they're trying to like backtrack and whatever.

It's fucking bizarro land that this is occurring. And you're right. It's almost like it's lived or succeeds or bust. for these guys because if it doesn't, what the fuck are they going to do? I mean, yeah, they're going to have a ton of money. But if they want to play golf and Will Zaltoris had a great quote, I think they came out yesterday. He was like, if you gave me all of the money in the world, I would be doing what I'm doing right

now because this is what I love to do. I want to go out, try to be the best player I can, try to win PGA tour golf tournaments against the best players in the world. That's what makes me tick day in and day out. I think that's a very pure and rare way of thinking from Will Zalotaur. also would love to know if he was presented with $300 million if you'd be the same. You know what I mean? It's one of those things where it's like, yeah, if I had all the money in the world,

you hear a lot of these guys, Fortune CEO, Fortune 500 CEOs that are like if I had $10 million, that'd be it. And then if I had $50 million, that'd be it. If I had $100 million, that'd be it. If I had a billion dollars, that'd be it. And it just keeps going up and up and up. You don't know until you have it, I think. But the thing that I think's different is that Willis Al Torres is playing a game.

And by playing on the PGA tour, you are playing that game. game at the highest level imaginable. You are high school sports. You are doing that times a million. You are continuing that chase. And that is a true dream. If you're like the CEO of a company, you deal with a lot of shit that fucking sucks.

You don't want to deal with. You're like running meetings and in HR issues. And like that's not necessarily a dream. Yeah, the money is a dream. But like Will Zaltoris is going to the driving range, which he loves to do. He's grinding on his putting, which he loves to do. And then he gets to take that on to the field of competition and try his hand against the best players in the world for coveted titles that he's dreamt about since he was like five years old.

So I think that is quite different than, you know, a CEO. Like, and I think like if, you know, the Jay Monaghan example of if you asked him like, oh, if they gave you a billion dollars, would you just be the CEO of the Livtor and not of the PGA tour? I think that even in and of itself is very different than a wills out of tourist because. Still, I think being the CEO of like an organization in a lot of ways fucking sucks. I think it drags. You're dealing with people bitching at you all the time. Whereas Will's Al-Torris is like, I'm playing golf every day. This is great.

Whether I'm playing golf, you know, I want to be playing golf on the PGA tour. I'm making millions already. What else do I need? And I think that's been Rory's point. That's been JT's point. That's been Max Homer's point. And I think that a guy like DJ clearly has different interests. I think he clearly is like, yeah, I'm almost, I'm 40.

or whatever. I've won a couple majors. I'm way probably more into like banging Paulina and partying on my boat than I am on chasing PGA tour titles. Whereas Will's Alatoris is like, I almost won three majors in a row. I can, this is what I want to do. So I do think that like, I honestly think if he was presented with $500 million to just go on live tour, I, I'm not saying 100%, but I think there's a good chance he'd be like, no, I'm not interested. Yeah, it does seem like a lot of the names that we talk about is it's guys who have who have tasted the success and they're like that just doesn't do it for me like it doesn't it doesn't get me amped up the way that it used to now there are younger guys who took the money and those guys are in a different spot but for a guy like wills

alt-toris he's like i haven't won a major yet and there's a chance that if i join this live tour i'm not going to be i'm not even going to have the chance to win another major or win my first major and he just he's not interested in that he wants to win them he wants to play golf at the highest level like Riggs is saying, and the other guys, the fills, the DJs, the Brooks's, they've won multiple majors, a ton of majors between the three of them. And they're just like, I've already done that. So I'm going to go make a ton of money. They're just not motivated by the drive to be the best and play the best competition

anymore. That's kind of what it comes down to. When these guys win specifically the younger guys and they cry on the green and their families hug them, there's probably two different types of people that are thinking about two different types of things when that happens. Will's Altour's probably is like, I accomplished this goal that I always knew I could accomplish. I'm one of the best players in the world. I'm doing my thing.

And like another guy might be crying because like now he gets to like take care of his family and all the guys around him. And he's finally a millionaire. And like all the things that he wanted to do in his life with money is finally coming to fruition. He doesn't have to grind on the Asia tour anymore and be in the corn ferry. It doesn't have to drive from city to city sleeping in his car and all this stuff. Like Calam Taron, when he wins his first PGA tour event is going to be a lot. more, more emotional, maybe about his financial stability now and being able to just be in this thing and become like a big household name as opposed to like, all right, now I'm like one

away from catching Tiger Woods and like being in the record books. Like that initial feeling might be different for different people. You know what I mean? I would say those things aren't mutually exclusive though. Like if you're not, but I think you can. Yeah, you can feel both. I think it's, I think most guys probably feel both. I think they're probably like, holy shit. They probably do, but I have all this money now and I accomplish this thing as well or the other way it's like oh I accomplished this thing I always wanted to oh and I have all this money I would I actually think those things are far more mixed than they are mutually exclusive but they're mutually exclusive in the fact that at the end of the day guys are choosing one over the other and you're seeing that now from week to week with

livetore like guys are just deciding on one over the other so like I'm just saying that there's two different types of people I think that what drives them more like clearly what you're saying if Willis Altarous was presented with $500 million, what drives him more is all the stuff that Riggs just said. And then if you show Matthew Wolf that $500 million, he's going to go to the money as opposed to like caring at all about being a PGA tour historic leader. All right.

And if we look at it that way, which it probably is that way, the numbers far, far more skew in the PGA tour direction. Like we see all the names that the live guys get, but it's a very, very, very small percentage of people who have gotten that money. Like it's the fields are small. They're doing that on purpose. So it's like, yeah, maybe they offered all these guys a ton of money. It seems like they offered everybody under the

son. Anybody who had any sort of pedigree, any sort of pedigree on the PJ tour got an offer from live and a very small percentage of players, a very small percentage of the top 10 players in the world took that money. So then you got to think that the regular, like the way the human brain would work, is it money or is it glory? It seems like a lot of people pick glory. We just, focused on the guys who picked the money because they're a huge name. But there's only like 20 guys that make the PGA tour what the PGA tour is. So there's already a very finite amount of people that live could have picked from that would have made an impact. Right. So like that like I mean, we talked about with Sam, right 20 million.

No, I know. But I'm saying like even if they get a couple of them, like that is still a major amount of percentage of the actual people that make the PGA tour what it is. I mean, we talked to Sam Ryder about this and he's a PGA tour lifeer. The guy loves the PGA tour. We talked about this with him at the pro M. And he's like, there are guys that just make the PGA tour what it is. And like,

I'm not one of them. Like, I'm not the top 25 guys. People don't go to the 3M specifically with Sam Ryder jerseys on. Like there's like 20 guys that have made our lives a ton a lot better. So like my point is like when you take that little pool that those are the guys that have to decide between like the glory and the money. Like everyone else that's like denying those guys you think they got. I mean,

at this point like Brooks Kepka Dustin Johnson those are money makers with PGA Tour Bryson D. Chimbo Phil so that's four I mean Patrick Reed probably wasn't like the biggest moneymaker but still a huge name

if they get Cam Smith I guess he like all time Right if they got Cam Smith that's like I honestly think Cam Smith is like the lynch pin And Matthew Wolf like he is just Young and he's a draw And he's got a personality and he's good.

He's really good. I guess the point I'm trying, I guess the point I'm trying to make is like, these guys who left doesn't matter. Like, obviously they're huge names. If you take five guys out of 25, that's like now we're talking about like a bigger percentage

than what you're saying. Like obviously guys from 40 to 125. Yeah, it does. But I'm just, I'm just saying that like there definitely are guys that are in that big group. that value different things. Like, and it's not as much, I don't know.

I don't know how to explain it really. Well, look, I think like the simple fact for, for me, right? Like, if you gave me, you gave me a billion dollars and said, like, it's over. You could just retire. Here's a billion dollars. You have to do with that money? It's like, I would set up as many buddies like rider cup trips as I could so that we could, like, play fun golf that kind of meant. something against each other.

And I think it's like when somebody retires and they sit on a beach for like a day and then they end up getting a job as a Walmart greeter because you want to fucking do something, right? Like you need a purpose in life, I think to for most people to feel and like fulfilled and true happiness and a balanced life and all that. And I think Will's Alatoris's point and home and all them is like, no, no, this is what I do as a human being. And so if I had $500 million like, I'm not going to be happier.

I'm going to be richer. but like what the fuck what am i going to do i'm just going to want to win golf tournaments and i can't do that on the pga tour there so i why would i even consider it and i think frankie's point is very good in that like well clearly not everybody has that because if that was true then everybody wouldn't be everybody would be on the pjutor but i do think like if you go through as you guys were having that discussion like if you go through the world rankings like scottie schaffer's number one pg j tour cam smith number one p or number two pjure obviously that might change. Who knows? Rory McElroy, PGA, Jor. Patrick Cantlay, Tor. John Rom, Tor. Zander

Shoffley, Tor. Justin Thomas, Tor, Morikawa, Tor, Hovlin, Tor. Matthew Fitzpatrick, Tor. Sam Burns, Tor. Jordan Speath. Tor. Will Zal Tor. Billie Hortierke Matziyama, Tor. Toe Finow, Tor. It's until you get to 17th in the world that Dustin Johnson is the first guy, and I would say he's gone down in the rankings for the last few years. And so to Sam Ryder's point, and then you've got to to after that you get to Brooks Kepka, who again has been going down injuries, but he is there 23rd. You know, Bryson is 30th. It's like these guys, yes, they're getting names, but I think it's a little bit skewed in that like they're getting Phil and Sergio and Henrik Stenson. Those guys are names, but like some of the people that are on the PGA tour that we don't consider names yet are 20 years younger that haven't become the Sergio yet, but they will.

And like, that's a, that's a big part of it, that the, that the live tour is not creating something that's, that's really paralleled to the tour. I, I don't think because like the tour still has all of the people that want to create legacies as great golfers with great golf professional careers. And, and that's clear when you go through the top 15, 16, 17 names in the world of golf right now, uh, though. those guys are on the tour and have committed to the tour up to this point. That could change. And yes, there's going to be guys that clearly have different priorities. And I think we've seen that with Brooks, with DJ. But those guys have also had pretty good success, accomplished things and are at different points.

They've gotten married. They're having kids, whatever, where it is, where it is different. But, but, but, but yeah, I think you're, you can kind of tell in the live versus tour where the guys have that, you know, priority. and I think the guys that play golf purely, like, or not purely, but mostly for money are going to be more emphasized, or drawn to the Liv Tor. And the guys that are playing because like this is what they wanted to do

their entire lives are going to be PJ Tor. And I think you're going to see at the end of the day, more guys be Tor, PGA Tour, but not, not all of them. It's not going to be the entire crop. I don't know if I've ever asked this when talking about it, but what's the extreme, what's the negative of the PGA tour? tour allowing this to just be a complimentary tour. Is it strictly morality or would they actually

lose out on like money and sponsors and their play? Like would they lose out on tour events? Like I don't, I genuinely don't see what they would lose. They'd only like gain. I think it's a it's a it's a market share right. Like there's only so much of there's only the industry is only so big in terms of like professional golf interest that I think if you allow a competitor to come in, and you just let it happen without trying to do anything to stop it, I think you're just giving up market share, right? Like I think that would just be poor business right out of the gate to let it happen. Now, clearly they're at a point where I think it hasn't worked out with the method that the PGA Tour chose.

So they're going to, I think a lot of people believe they're going to have to eventually integrate or accept it or something. But, but you are the point, I think you're trying to get to that I was thinking about earlier as well. is like the none of this rider cup like ineligibility and um people being you know ostracized none of that would be none of that would even occur if the pj tour had just been like yeah yeah they have the complimentary tour go play that's that's fine like none of that would be occurring they would just still be on the bj tour that's what i've been trying to think of this entire time and also like and hindsight's 2020 and like obviously a perfect world this wouldn't be a thing and then even on the other side in a perfect world,

they would have just been able to meet and, like, live would have been on the off weeks or the off months at the PGA tour was on, and it all would have been fine and dandy, and everyone would have gotten what they wanted. But at this point, where we're at now, I just don't see a negative in, like, merging, aside from the morality aspect,

I don't see a negative for the PGA tour to be like, yeah, like, we just want all our guys to be able to play in all of our big events. Do you think there are guys that would have gone, would be playing live tour events if it weren't for the, the tour's hard stance? I do think so, yeah. So then I think that justifies the tour's hard stance, right?

Because like if couldn't they still play at the tour is my point? Like, like, if they're playing seven events for the live, like wouldn't they still then be a tour member? And like really, what are you losing by letting them go do that? Well, I think you're losing like by allowing that you're, you're, you're validifying and giving credibility to those events. And believe it or not, those events do go against PGA. tour events like like this week. I mean, you know, so now you've got you've got the rocket mortgage

who paid you all this and you spent years with your sales team and your business team building out this event. Uh, and now you're just allowing another event to like trounce it like that's just and you do that 12 times a year, 14 times a year. I think it just gets really probably really tricky from a business standpoint, but, but I think that I think the simple fact of like, they're definitely our guys on the PGA tour that if they weren't wouldn't have lost Rider Cup and President's Cup future and wouldn't have lost PGA Tour membership, like probably would be playing in some live events. And that's probably the tour's justification for their heart stand.

Yeah, that makes sense. All right. Live Tour. I will say we've talked a lot about this fucking tour. So they're doing something. There's a lot. It's really hard to argue that they're doing something. I want to talk real quick before we get to a few from the galleries.

And I want to talk about this Scott Schaeffer video about sling. TV. If you're going to be watching the PJ tour, you'll be watching really anything, sports. I mean, I was, I had NFL network on last night because before we know it, we're going to have football seasons coming around. We're going to have the Super Bowl in Scottsdale at the same week as the Phoenix Open this upcoming winter, which is going to be insane. Sling TV. Shark week, debatably the best programming this summer. I saw some crazy thing where sharks swam into a tank on Twitter the other day. Um, dude, sharks are popping up on Long Island like crazy. Sharks on the Northeast this year are a problem. I noticed.

Bro, there, there was one on rock out, uh, just off Rockaway Beach where the shark like did the spinning out of the water thing, which I think is like a tactic of biting whatever was up at the surface. Um, people are just screaming in horror. Yeah, there's sharks all over the place on Long Island this year. Wait, the shark did the thing where he sprints up from the bottom and just flies out of the water. Bro, there's a video of a shark at Rock.

Rockaway Beach just flying out of the water and does like a 360 spin, which I'm pretty sure I've seen on Shark Week on Slink TV. It's like a maneuver that they go up and spin and come back down. Oh, I just saw it. Holy shit. Yeah, that was a torpedo. That's a torpedo. Yeah, that's that move. On Shark Week is where I've seen this, which you can watch on Slink TV.

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Really good show. Unbelievable show. Rone is so good. Roan's amazing and everything he does, specifically leading a band, which is going to be playing tomorrow night in Atlantic City. If you're in the Philly area, if you're in the Jersey area, if you want to make the trip down Atlantic City, we're going to be at Anchor Rock Club. I have like breaking news for that.

I've never seen this be done for promoting. motion or for just a rock show in general. But PFT, so there, there's a Powerball or Mega Millions that's going to be going live, I think on Friday night for like $800 something million, right? And PFT just bought like $500 worth of lottery tickets and says that any person that purchases a ticket to Anchor Rock Club is now going to win a piece of his lottery winnings if he wins the $800 million. So every single person that goes to, in is now a part of when so you could show up to a rock show and then possibly be one couple hundreds of whatever of eight hundred million dollars like you're entering a lottery by then

showing up we're giving you a free lottery entry it's like an amazing amazing promotion imagine that imagine we win and then the place goes fucking nuts that's like the best moment of all down go to a rock show leave a fucking millionaire dude and we're not even like bullshitting, you have a chance to become a millionaire. Everyone's got a chance. You've got to be in it to win it. Everyone has a chance, right? So, like, he's buying those amount of tickets. It's done. Like, we're in. Everyone that enters. So that's a fun thing. Send that to your buddies. Say, we have a chance to win a couple million bucks. And then we're going to go see a good rock show. Roan. We had Rudy and Jackie from KFC Radio came

to just hang out and film a couple stuff. And they couldn't believe how good Roan was. He's like, the way when he wraps and like things like sublime what I got and stuff he makes me like wet it's crazy how good that guy is Trent daddy I think I need to get you in a seat for the next show because you've been doing the hockey bench sway the whole entire time it's giving me motion sickness bro that's got to be crazy for YouTube viewers absolutely crazy you know what I mean yeah that's just how I understand 50 minutes woo I've been looking at you in the bottom of my screen bro and I'm like I can't take it anymore I had to get it out of me my mom yeah yeah You can hear you.

My mom, who watches all of our videos, bless her heart. She said like the one takeaway. Well, she loves them, first of all. And then second, she's like, you just sway all the time. I'm like, I don't even notice. You've been swaying like a motherfucker today. I don't even notice that I sway. Bro, at one point, I'm going to stop you when you're like really deep swaying.

The next time we do this podcast, well, I got to plug this thing here because the computer's going to die. The next time we do this podcast, I will. have a desk, I think. So I won't be standing and there'll be no more sweat. What's the desk buying process like? It's tough, man. I was just, I just, you just, you just look for something you like. I don't know. That's really the only way I can explain it. Did you go to a furniture store? You do it from the internet. I did it from the internet. I do a lot of the stuff from the internet. I bought a couch. I went and I bought the couch. I sat on the couch because I had to do that. But a desk is like, I like the way it looked. It fit in the space that I wanted to put it. Um, I've been doing all this. Yeah, the shopping's a nightmare.

I go to Hobby Lobby, Home Sense, Home goods, and like you go to all these different types of places. There's all these trinkets and knick-knacks. And then you look for like a console table. How many console tables are supposed to be in one house? That's what I want to know. I've bought four console tables. And now I need a new one. Now we need a black console table to go underneath the photo wall.

I don't even know what a console table is. I just know that it costs $185 sometimes. And like that's like the fifth time we bought one. The shopping is a grind and you have to buy. this shit. But then I wake up in the morning and I'm like, I want this place to look nicer. Because right now it just, it looks like when I moved in. It looks like nobody's moved in yet. Somebody threw a couch in here and that's kind of it. I wanted to look like a nice place. So you got to go through all this stuff like buying a desk, buying a couch, buying TVs,

buying artwork, buying console tables, which I genuinely don't even know what that looks like. I have never even heard of. Console table is like a little mini table that just goes on a wall, like against a wall and you put like a fucking vase. or whatever on it. It's just, I should just fly my mom out. Never decorate this place. One of the worst uses of furniture,

like the worst utilitarian value of all time. You just, it just sits there to have things that sit on it that people think look nice. Now we're buying a bookshelf for one of the, for the TV room and I'm a noted book hater. Like, I don't even know. So like,

we're buying that just for looks. Like, she's going to put a little fucking, one of those little mini fake plants on there. I can already picture what it's going to look like. It's going to be a couple books. And the only people are really going to look at it are going to be like you guys. There's going to be a couple books on there that are so strategically angled and placed on there just for the look.

And then there's going to be a couple of little maybe one photo frame, a green little fake plant. And then that's going to be it. And I'm never going to take a book on or off that thing ever. I will say as a guy, so I do have a lot of books. And as a book reader, books are a problem when you move. And like when you move into a new space, like I don't know if you guys can see back there. I got a bunch of books on that table. Nerd.

A bunch of books. And I just have nowhere to put them. I just don't have a single book shelf and that'll look nice. That's like, but yours is real. Yours has like a real backstory where you consume those books. You read them. Frankie's is just a facade.

What are you going to do? Put your fucking, your Spotify plays on there when you read all your books. Did you listen to them? I actually meant to send you guys. I saw, I saw a tweet going viral yesterday. that was essentially like, okay, so if a blind person, you know, read a book with Braille,

are you going to be like, no, you didn't read that book? You felt it? Yeah, but you have the ability to read books. I think I'd say they felt it. Sorry, it's a hard world out here. Like, I don't know. We're not just handing out fucking trophies for like reading books. It's just what it is, what is. They physically felt the book. Yeah, they did. That's like what that's, that's their form of communication and reading and no. Somebody made the other point that for thousands, of years, the way an audience actually consume books was through an audio rendition, a reading of the book because they didn't have, it was Shakespearean, it was all that.

They obviously didn't have printing press forever. So there was only like one fucking book. And in order to consume it, somebody would read it or perform it in a play in front of an audience. And so really, you guys are the ones that are out on this. No, okay. No, no, no. But now.

version where you sit alone and like look with your eyes reading across it's fucking crazy. I've been doing it the right way for thousands of years. You haven't been in those times would they consider all those people in the audience had read the book or was there like in that time in that era was it was there was reading a book like like a one in a billion opportunity and you had to be like some sort of scholar and you had to be rich to be able to be the one to read it or was it just you listened. Yeah, we went and like listen to a book today like that's like that was what they did they never even thought about the term reading because they weren't ever reading it so they didn't read any books they just

listen to them right they because they could conceptually understand the greater purpose of a book which is to consume the contents of the book it's not to get hung up on semantics of who read or who didn't it was to consume then digest the contents of the book which again i know you're against the blind community but i would just well blind realist that has read a book via bail, the credit that they have indeed read that book. I'll tell you what it sounds. But I want to get up on semantics. One, you're appropriating blind culture is what you're doing.

By listening to a book, you are, you're taking what they. You can read a book, though. That's the difference. You have the ability. You've got the eyes. So can they. Also, I want to get hung up on semantics. Like, you've never, you have not read a book in a long time.

time. You've not physically read a book. So I do want to get hung up on semantics. You didn't read Shugat. Okay. I want to get hung up on semantics. Shoe dog, you didn't read it. Like, I read it. Everybody agrees that.

There's different forms of, you know, I don't even know, consuming a book. You can read a book. You can listen to a book. You can feel a book. But they're different things. Amazingly, books were originally in, invented to be consumed the way that I'm consuming them. It's because that's,

and that's the other thing, you now live in a time where you are just, you're so lucky that places like Amazon and Barnes & Noble and all these bookstores exist where they print these things in mass and you can get your hands on them. How lucky are you? And you are still throwing it. You are throwing the technological advancements away and deciding to listen to that.

That's what I hear. No, I'm using the greatest, newest form of technological advancements to be able to consume books the way they were originally meant to be consumed without having to travel to a theater to see it consume that way. I can just be walking through the fucking airport. What are you holding a giant book walking through the airport with the with the pages flapping through the, like what? What are we doing here? That's archaic. I'm doing something. I'm now able to consume a book the way they were originally intended to be consumed for thousands of years while just going about my day to day life.

It's incredible. I think you guys are, I don't know what. You can make this argument on your one. You got a whole table full of books there. But you're sweating your cock off trying to transport those things from your last apartment to the next one. All my books are right here, baby. Every one of them.

Listen, you can make this argument until the cows come home. But I know when you're closing your eyes at night, you think I didn't read that book. That's not true. That's not true. Scotty Sheffler book, a book, not book. Video. Crazy. One of the craziest things.

Took me a second to realize what I was watching when I hit. So if you haven't seen this, Scotty Schaeffler, Taylor made video, all of our crew out there. Dane, the stranger, Barbudi. Everybody's like hitting me up being like, I was fucking there for this. This was incredible. He's out there with Adrian, who we've had on the show, doing some club fitting and some tests. And basically they're out there with, you know, the launch monitor, the full swing golf type technology. Scotty Sheffler's hitting drives, hitting three woods,

he's hitting UDI, long irons, four irons, all kinds of stuff. And then he just, in real time, is, is guessing what the yardage was and getting them correct to the fucking yard. I got a bunch of responses saying, like, he's a professional golfer and, like, distances on long yardages. Like, we all know our distances. Like, are you a fucking lunatic asshole? I fucking hate every single person that didn't watch this video

and say that that's the most impressive things I've ever seen in my entire life. This guy is hitting a little white golf ball with like 116 mile an hour club speed or whatever it is. And knowing the exact yardage that ball lands. What are we even fucking talking about? To the exact, bro, at one point, Adrian started laughing, be like, this is fucking ridiculous. Like, he said like 271. And it was like 271 on the dot. That's such a far distance to get correct.

What are we even talking about? And then, bro, by far the most impressive one was the wed shot. That felt like 80, he said. That felt like 80. 80 on the dot. Go watch this. video it's on Taylor Mades YouTube uh Instagram it is fucking mind blowing how dialed in this guy's yardages are I mean we got to make this video too right 100% 100% yes we have to that's a great

call we have to do that like right now that's a great call we must do it we might and and you can tell all those fucking losers trying to like people people hate cool stuff basically they don't like they just don't want to be impressed and they just want to knock others down which the I'm describing total fucking losers. But if Adrian, who fits clubs and deals with Rory, named his fucking kid Rory because he deals with and loves Rory so much, if he's used to doing this type of stuff with Rory and Tiger and all these elite ball strikers and even he's giggling at how preposterous Scottie Schafebord's

guesses were, then clearly it's impressive. Those comments actually make me feel a little bit better because when I, like when we do Breaking 90 and I, you know, I put it 75 times, people tweeted me, be like you suck at putting you're the worst part of the planet it's like okay but then when i also see them tweeting these things about a professional golf or doing something amazing you just realize that they're just never going to be happy with anything no you know what i mean yeah they're like for us they're like you're supposed to be better and then for him for him they're like you're supposed to be that good so where is there there's no middle ground you just don't you can't pay attention

to any of it because no matter they're going to move the goalposts every single time reposted my Instagram story and wrote just getting ready for our big match grinding out here getting ready for our big match that's like one of the bigger Instagram posts in Foreplay history in the fact that the number one golfer on the planet has now said that he is grinding

on the range to prepare for our four-man scramble now let's get on a plane to Texas now I'll get on a plane now we have to now that he does have the playoffs are starting August 5th, I believe. So, like, he's probably flying out to wherever the FedEx Cup playoffs are starting.

Once the playoffs are over, September, we have to play against Scottie Sheffler. We got to get him while he's number one, too. We got to get him while he's number one. Now, that will change with FedEx Cup. Depends how he plays. But, like, FedEx Cup, like, I don't know how the world rankings work. Like, if you finish, like, number one in a playoff, does that get you higher rankings? Or no, does it, does not take that into account.

I think you get more points for playoffs. I'd be surprised if you don't. I bet they're weighted a little bit. He's got to play well. We need to play well. Or, you know, we need the guys that are like on his heels, like Cam Smith and Rory to like not play. You know, so it's. I mean, can we go to Texas like tomorrow and just play him?

I mean, like, what is he doing? Like, where is he? I'd love to. I'd love to. What is this guy? Like, do you? Maybe, maybe getting a little bit of Friday. Back and forth.

I got to play pop punk with Scotty. Cancel it. Yeah, we got a chance to win $800 million. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. Kidding me?

Nuts. I'm going to take that money and never do the podcast again. Like, live. See, I win. If Riggs and I won that money, we'd be here Monday night. You'd be standing there swaying doing a fucking podcast. I'd be, I'd be, all right, Alex, send out that, that Riverside. We've got to do a podcast.

Trent, the nice, cute Trent that everyone knows and loves would send just the most fucked up email to every single person he's ever associated himself. That's not true. You'd be like, fuck you, you, Alex, you nice producer that helps us. with this podcast, you piece of shit. Don't ever send me an email ever again. I'm done. Bro, you change so fast.

What are you nuts? Let me ask you this. Seriously. If you win that money, if we all won that money, or let's just say you, if you won that money, would you come to the next breaking 90 shoot? Yeah, I would.

That'd be fun. There you go. All right. Yeah, but I'd also, I'd be fucking walking in spraying cash and having like a tiger following me or some shit. I'd have fun with it. No, but think about it.

Not to get too real about it, But think about it like with Dave, Dave Portnoy. That's a guy who has so much money. He's made it past the pat. Like he could easily disappear if you wanted to. He said that and he knows it. But he's a guy. He still just does it.

He's like, he has all that money, but he still posts on Twitter. He still does the pizza reviews. He still does the podcast. Like he's a guy who just loves it and will never, ever stop. You don't think he has ambitions to make more money or like own a team one day.

Or like, You don't think like each time he's hit a goal. He wants like the next goal of like that. You're acting like the guys on the tour and can't do that. Right. That's a lot harder for them. That's like their. Yeah.

That's like their ambition still exists. That's exactly. That's, you know, like, but theirs are in golf. That's, that's like what they're chasing is golf like success and victories and beating people down the stretch and fucking make it party on 18 to win a fucking golf tour. That's like what they're chasing.

Yeah. No, I just think it changes once you have money. I remember, I mean, this is all. But some people doesn't always talked about. Like when we first had Barser Radio, Dave was like, if I had 20 million, I'd go away tomorrow.

And now it's like, well, who like Penn? Like he could have 100 million. You could have 200 million. It's like we could keep going. That's our point. It's like once you get a taste, I think you want to keep going. Yes. But I'm saying like money definitely is a money is definitely the catalyst in that.

One billion percent. It is a good. It is a good point that like if you if, yeah, right. And if you had like if if if you had. $100 million tomorrow, you wouldn't be like, fuck you, Tread, I hope you don't break 90. I'm not, like, you'd be there and you'd be filming it. Yes, your life would be better.

It'd be different. You'd probably fucking helicopter to the goddamn place. And then PJ. Yeah, you still become, you're still a human being. I mean, first half you're still like, human being. He's like still like going on vacation with his wife and shit. Like, totally. But you take the money and you just like blip off the universe.

I mean, in our world, we're trying to see how it's going to relate to their golf careers. And we're saying that a lot of guys aren't going to give up that PGA tour because at the end of the day, what they want to do day in and day out is try to win PGA tour events. Okay, but then to take it back to your question, I would not not take the money just so I could show up to breaking 90 tomorrow. That's fucking insanity. If someone said you have $100 million on the table or you can go to breaking 90, I'm going to be like, see you later, Trent. I mean, if that's one or the other, you gave me the option where it's like if I won the money tomorrow, that hurts my feeling. You gave me the option saying if I won the money tomorrow,

would I still show up. That's like saying to Brooks Kepko. I thought it was deeper than that. I'm, shut the fuck up. That's like saying to Brooks Kepka, we're going to give you $200 million, but you can still show up to the 3M tournament tomorrow's. You'd be like, yeah, of course I'll do that. What are you nuts? You gave me both options.

I thought I was deeper than that. Right, and both, but my point is that if it's not like you're going to, with that $200 million, just do a completely different thing in your life. Like at some point, what is going on in your life actually brings you like purpose and happiness and you like to do it. So that's what Wills Altauris is saying is like,

there is something that he likes to. do that is at some level going to outweigh the others. Like, yes, in yours, it's not an outweighing situation. But for a lot of guys, and clearly the top 16 guys in the world haven't gone, they are outweighing the pure money versus a scenario where they get to chase the tour. And they also make a lot of money. That's another big part of it. Like, they make a lot of money on the PGA tour.

Yes, I'm just saying that if you give me the exact thing that Willis Al Torres is deciding between because he can no longer chase the PGA tour if he takes the money. I'm saying if I can no longer do breaking 90 because I took $100 billion, I will not be doing breaking 90 tomorrow. I'm choosing the opposite of what Willsall Torres did. I'm sorry, Trent. I'm to take $100 million. Sorry, but. I guess I'll hit up emergency if you want to play golf again.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can find them. You need a fucking like Apple tag on that guy. I put Apple tags on my air tags on my golf bag finally. And it's actually quite annoying. Travel hack. Every time you're fucking, I mean, I know I can just change notifications.

I've done that, but... Fuck, I do got to leave here, by the way, I assume. Still, like, every fucking... Every time I walk, like, 100 feet away from my golf bag, I get, like, a notification. It's like, oh, you left it behind, but at least we're getting closer to where we're being able to do that. From the gallery, we're going to hit up.

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It's definitely top three in the United States. I don't know where they are ranked in the world. It's probably a top 10 golf course in the world, which is the same. In terms of the Golf Digest rankings. I would say that I have said, I have said, and I think I still hold true to this, that I think Shinnock, while it's one of my favorites I ever played,

it's not my personal, like, favorite, but I think it's the best golf course I've ever played. from like just like a test, a true natural test of golf with all the holes are different and they're unique and they're interesting. And you're looking at that Shinnecott Clubhouse. You can see it the entire time. It's got the history of the U.S. opens.

It challenges the guys all the time. I think it's like the best golf course I've ever played. And clearly it gets ranked. I think it is like third in the United States of America. Now, I've never been a history guy when it comes to golf. but I think something unlocked history and architecture never just I don't fancy that stuff

I just like cool fun go I think you like history so what I was going to say is now that we went to Scotland and like got a taste for like the actual real OG history I think it might have unlocked something in my brain now people are allowed to change they're allowed to adapt they're allowed to learn new things

have new you're allowed to look at things a different way and I do I am like kind of excited to go to a place like Shinnecock that has a little bit of that history, the old school feel to it, the amazing fucking clubhouse, the crazy old school members, and that clubhouse apparently is unbelievable, everything about it. The champions that have been won there, like, it kind of has that Scotland feel where you're like, oh, yeah, like, legends have walked here before.

It's cool. You're going to shoot a 97 one and burn that place to the ground and be like, that fuck this place. No, no, no. I think, I don't know. I mean, I'm still a Long Island national guy. I mean, I'm a national golf links of America guy. but we'll see we'll see where this ranks golf digest latest america's hundred greatest golf courses list from 2021 has shinnock is the fourth best golf course fourth greatest golf course in america i want to play i'm playing with dan cats barstle big cat that's going to be a hell of an experience um so we'll see how that goes i mean

have you guys ever play golf together never never wow never never never never never never never never once. Wow. Never. Yeah, never. A couple guys rolling in. Have you ever played a Big Cat? We just.

No, I guess not. No, yeah, yeah, I did. I did. We played, me and Rinks played with him. You remember that? I was actually at Shinnecock. It wasn't at Shinnecock Hills, but it was near Shinnecock. We were up there for the, for the US Open.

Remember that? We did. Yeah. We did. Really? Yeah, well, we played against, we played against their, their whole squad. Was it like it was Hank, Big Cat? Was PFT part of it?

It was just Hank and Big Cat? I think it might have been just Hank and Big Cat. I think Trent won like rock paper scissors at the end to win the whole thing. Yeah, we tied out on the course and then we went to the parking lot and did a rock paper scissors and we won. Yeah, I can't remember the format. It was like a wild format. But yeah, it was we won. We defeated them.

That was the only time we played. We played like nine holes or five holes. It wasn't a full deal. But Shannicoke Hills with Big Cat. Are you nervous? Like walking on eggshells nervous? I'm a little nervous. I never met the guy who's bringing us out.

Like there's just a lot of the things that come with playing at a prestigious course I'm nervous about. Not my game. I'm pretty confident in my game, although I haven't played since we did that Buffalo Chicklets cup. And so many parts of my body are so sore from playing hockey, five games in a row, like different things. Like the insides of my legs, I feel like concrete still. And like everything is just different. Sorry, I can't get this bubble out of my throat, guys.

I'm just battling right now. I'm battling. There you go. I'm nervous about all that stuff. Like the, I don't know, where to park. Like,

he gave me directions on where to park. I'm a little nervous about that. I don't know. Yeah, that's the eggshells. Those are the eggshells. It's like, just move to the left.

There's a pro shop with the left. Just park right by there. Don't park by the clubhouse. I'm like, all right. It's like, you got to find that fucking bar shop. You got to step into the clubhouse

with your right foot. If you don't do that, you're out. No, no, I am excited though. It's a once in a billion chance to go play that course. And I mean, it's Chinatcock, man.

It's the fucking, it's the bees' knees of the golf world. Well, good luck. I hope you light it up, Frankie. The first tee shot's intimidating. I don't think it's a driver, right? I think you can, like, kind of rip a hybrid out there. Yeah, you can hit a hybrid out there, but you're like, you're basically tee it off with your, with your, you know, for you, like, your left heel will be on the clubhouse. Okay.

I mean, it's not going to be, it's not going to be U.S. open conditions but Zach Johnson had a tough go there. He did have a tough go there. They lost that place. They lost control of that place. That's a beautiful day out. So I'm expecting like the fescue to be all that, that shinnock golden brown and just everything about it's going to, it's not like it's cloudy.

It's going to like everything's going to be shiny and green. I'm excited. I'm bringing a lot of balls. I don't know if you'll really lose any balls out there. The feskees not thick. Is it, is it kind of air? Yeah, it's airy and wispy more than it is like thick boy, you know? Okay.

All right. Let's go from the gallery brought to you by truly hardseltzer.com. Let's go to Tyler who says, are European golfers as a whole, all amateurs, everybody, are European golfers as a whole better than us Americans? So would a full on average Joe Ryder Cup be won by Europe or the U.S.? I mean, I'm going to sound biased, but I think it's the U.S. I think so, too. Think about how it's a numbers game, too.

I think it's U.S. I guess like just the United States players, on average, the pros end up just being better than the Europeans. So like if you take that into account, like we, obviously the amateurs on some level are better because they're turning into better pros. Right. Just the fact of the matter. That's exactly what I think. I couldn't agree more. So yeah, we're just better.

We're going to claim that we're better. Let's go to Kyle. Kyle says, given the opportunity to play is the last man out, last team out, in a 54-hole live event with the four-play scramble team, take the opportunity to play in a live event to see how they would stack up with the uncertainty of how the USDA, PGA, PGA, TOR, et cetera, would react and how the media would react. You got to show me the money.

I ain't playing and shit unless I'm getting paid crazy money from live. that's the only reason you would ever go there and deal with the whole circus it's been my point the entire time it's like all the stuff that comes with it is only quote unquote worth it to deal with anything if you're making life changing generational changing money they're growing the game that's why they that's why they do it they're not going to the game I'm not going to any fucking live event unless they unless like literally if I go to a live event that means that I'm packing up this house and moving to a nicer one like like I want major changes in my life.

Yeah, I would say no, unless, you know, we got, we got paid an outrageous amount of money. Like, if I, if I have to, like, the moving trucks will have to get out of my way for me to make it to the course because, like, I'm already moving to like Cold Spring Harbor and like I'm going to have a match. You know what I mean? Like things are happening if I'm playing in a pro am there. Yeah, I'm going to say just to go and see how we do, even if it was, even if we were, even if we were paid out based on our finishing position as a team i would say no no i can't right you just can't i wouldn't even go to an event i won't even go to a live event no like would you go as even a fan or a no you can't you can't you can't do the thing that everyone's getting like

yelled at and fucking and screamed at and canceled for on the internet just for nothing you like that's That's the dumbest decision. That would be the dumbest decision that anyone's made in this entire process. Yeah. Who'd that lunatic be? Lurch? I think you could, I think, going as media, I think is a little different, but maybe not even that different. But I think, I mean, there are, there's some, yeah, there's some media people that are just, like, doing it that I really wonder how much to get paid.

Like, what, what's her name that's on the fucking broadcast now? We saw her. Troy Mullins. She's, like, a part of the live broadcast. now. But that's stunned. Well, if you're getting paid media, that's different. Totally.

I'm saying, like, people that just go, like, when we go to the U.S. Open, people that just go to, like, cover it. That, no, we would never, I would not do that. But, I mean, I would say we would need, what, a eight-figure offer at least for us to consider going to, like, a live event? Yeah. If I get to call my daddy and say, Daddy, I have $10 million in the bank tonight. because I'm going in this golf tournament,

that's going to be worth it for me to go there. So, yeah, I'm in. We need to start negotiating. We need to find a number and just say this is the number. If they want to send it to us, we're just going to be a different type of podcast. Simple as that. We got to stop beating around the fucking bush.

Throw a number out there. If they match it, they match it. Right, that's the thing you. We put ourselves in a weird spot when we, like, theoretically do these numbers when there is no number. Nobody has even, like, there hasn't been a number. So it's, what do you say?

supposed to say. 20 million a guy. Everyone agree? I don't know. We'd have to really see what the contract looks like. I need to I don't want to I just need to see a number. I don't want to I don't want to theoretically be like oh yeah baby woo gas up the yacht but when the number doesn't actually exist that's a weird that's a stiving that's a stupid thing to do. I need to see a number and the terms like if the terms are you have to defend like Saudi Arabian regime no matter what I don't don't know if I can you'd hope that the terms are not included in that for all the frankie's gonna be frankie's gonna be the live mike francesa one podcast just like all right here we are I'll take your money I mean listen if they want to offer it to us I will take

Trent's half and then that's fine if you want to stand for morality when it comes to the end of the day I'll just take that I'll like to do that that's fine uh Shopify Shopify we'll elect Trent is like our fucking freedom of speech maker he'll be in fucking you're You're going to start doing all these things. You're going to start talking about all the regimes. None of that made sense. Shopify makes sense. All in one commerce platform to run, start, and grow your business.

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That is Shopify.com slash four. Mike says, would you rather join the LivTor for $300 million or win the Masters once? That's a good question. That's probably Rory's question. I know what Rory would take. Right.

I guess we do know. What would Rory take? He's already got to that. Oh, I think he takes a Masters. that's the career career grand slam. I guess, yeah,

his question would be the opportunity. He joins five other people of all time. The opportunity to win a master's, I guess. But I guess you can still play the master's as it stands right now.

I mean, it just puts you on a different trajectory. Like 300 million, you're good. You're set. You don't have to do anything. Or you win a master's. You can have a Trevor Immelman career,

which is a pretty good one. It's like a good, respectable standing in the golf world. Boy, 300 million is a lot. But I would see. I think I'm going to say win the Masters once because man you win the Masters you're going to the Champions Dinner also you're sick at golf like if you won the Masters once you're just a good

golfer so the rest of your life playing golf will be really fun when you get the chance to go to Shinnecock or Pebble or whatever you can just play the golf course pretty well because you're so good that you won the Masters one time it's going to be lucrative you're going to be able to parlay that into whatever I mean if we just if like we're just hosting this podcast and like And Rick starts the show. Oh, yeah, he's won the Masters before. I mean, are you fucking kidding me? True.

I get the $300 million is outrageous, but like, I think I'm taking the Masters. You're not going to be broke if you win the Masters. You're going to be, things are going to be fine. You're not going to be $300 million, but you're going to be fine. Yeah, I would take the Master. Champions Dinner is a big part of it. Just being able to sit in that room with Tiger for the next 20 years. Fuck, dude.

That's pretty amazing. I might pay $300 million just to do that. I pay 300 million just sit in that fucking room. Yeah, you do get a lot of money from winning the Masters. And Trevor Lumberman's got a hell of a life. Yeah. Was that an answer? I mean, it's tough.

It's like we just talked about how I would take 300 million over anything, like two seconds ago. I think I'd take 20 million. So, like, I think I'd take the 300 million. Three hundred million is a lot of cash. It's a lot of cash. It's a tough. It's a tough. It's a tough answer for me.

Honestly, it's a lot. Because like, you're decided between winning, one masters are being like the highest earning athlete like in the country. Like, you know what I mean? 300 million is so much money. That's definitely the, yeah, that's the decision. Trent, I think you have a decision. Make this is, this is some bad news on your part.

Did you see the Saudi Arabian investments is now investing in Starbucks? No, I did not see that. So will you take a stand against Starbucks? Here's where that's incredibly different to me is that like Starbucks in that. Starbucks in that case doesn't get to decide who like invests. What do you mean? Like if they just buy up a bunch of Starbucks like stock and Starbucks like that's Starbucks doesn't get to be like no you can't buy like that's not how it works.

So they never get a choice on who like is a purchaser of their brand that's never happened like that. You can't like Apple can never decide. I'm saying it's never happening like in this case if it's like oh the phone. which is out there in a free market system and like decides to like invest in Starbucks that's not Starbucks choosing like morally what to do that's like anybody can just buy their thing so that's not like in in the way I said that's not like Starbucks management being like yep we're all in on the Saudis that's not really their I didn't know they had no choice okay so I learned something there I didn't know

a business had no choice and who invest in them well it's not a business is of a choice. If you're like a publicly traded company, right, then right. That's what that means publicly traded. Like the public is trading your, your shares of the company. So you don't get that. I'm saying. Not allowed that people would actually go against, would actually go against everything. All right. So. But again, it depends. I don't know the exact like I, I haven't seen that news story. So maybe it's something different. I, like, the only reason I brought that up is because I think people do equate those things, which in some instances isn't fair. Some it absolutely is.

Like if a company is trying to like fundraise at a pretty young, younger state and they're like, yep, the PIF, I think it is, which is a Saudi fund is like going to invest $20 million in our business. Let's go. That's very different. You're like directly being like, fuck yeah. These guys, we're going to take their blood money. Let's do it, which is very similar to the live argument. But I think if you're right.

Like if Penn National Gaming, if like the Saudi fund buys up $100 million worth of like Penn National gaming stock, Penn National isn't like people shouldn't, in my opinion, like you can't be like, oh, we're not going to go to Penn Casinos. We're against Saudi. Penn's like, what? What did we do? We're just sitting here like trying to manage bar stool and like all of our stuff. We don't have any, we don't have any control over that. See, that's where I just didn't know if that was the thing. Like I didn't know.

I didn't know that they just went on like eTrade.com and just bought it up stock. I thought for sure you'd have like meetings with like the CEOs and they'd know exactly where the money is coming from and they would be buying and purchasing stock from already current stockholders. Like wouldn't it be like an acquisition of a certain amount of shares and like clearly Starbucks would know who they're working with? In this case, like it might be. But look what happened with with Twitter. Like Elon Musk just bought up like 9% of Twitter or whatever it was. And he had to like try and acquire. They had to like approve it.

Right. They had to approve that takeover. We tried to buy the whole thing. Eventually. then they got to a point where they were like, fuck, this guy is threatening basically to buy up so much of Twitter that he's going to control Twitter. So why don't we like internegotiations with him to like then make a decision? And then they started to get a bunch of backlash of like, hey, you guys are going to, you know, from people that hate Elon Musk being like, you guys are

going to let Elon Musk just buy you out and take over Twitter. But up to that point, I think the number was 9%. Like if Elon Musk, yeah, it goes on like eTrade.com and it's like, I'm going to buy 10 billion dollars worth of Twitter. Twitter's like, oh, fuck, what can we do? That's actually how the whole fucking thing happened. It's crazy. It's insane. I guess that's why, like, Steve Jobs got, like, bought out of his own company.

Exactly. It's just crazy shit. On some level, you don't, like, once you go kind of public, you enter, and I'm not going to act like I'm some fucking financial expert. Like, Large would know a ton about this. But at some level, publicly traded companies, it's like, you don't really have control over who buys and starts to run. your company. If you did, you wouldn't be able to, you know, you wouldn't be able to benefit from

all the benefits that come of raising money from the public. Yeah. We're going to get a lot of finance, bro. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know what? I'm going to keep drinking Starbucks. That's my answer. Okay. We're going to get a lot of response. Look at Liv Gough. Live Gough is just, it's just been, it's relevant. It just drives, man. Like, you say it's not fair to like, bring that stuff in, but I do think it is fair to say, like to start stretching to those points because like we're already stretching, I think a lot of the times when we're talking about golf and we're bringing other things into it. Like I think it opens up doors to be able to talk about a lot of things now. If if you're going to say that like I just so many doors have been opened with this Saudi

and golf connection that I think it's all fair game at this point now. Yeah. I definitely. I think I think it is hypocritical to be like we're going to criticize golf. for taking money, but anyone else who doesn't is we're just never going to bring it up. That is incredibly hypocritical, but I also don't think that equates to like meaning we shouldn't criticize people for taking, you know, blood money or dirty money. Like those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive. But I do think it starts to get tough when everybody gets lumped into like, oh, the Saudi fund invested in this.

And people were like, we didn't have any fucking control over that. Yeah. It's like we didn't, there's nothing we could do about that. they went and bought it up or or not that we yeah so there's different obviously like degrees if someone clearly is presented with you're going to be the rider cup captain and you're going to yeah you're going to have yeah your rider cup captain you like stripped and you leverage that to take like the saudi money that's different than if the saudi fund just like buys up some of your public stock yeah because we get the tweets all the time it's like it's like it's like Starbucks it's like all these companies that

I mean it's like it's like it's happened our entire lives right it's like if it's like if you if you buy a pair of shoes, you can't have an opinion against a Saudi regime. Like, that's fucking crazy. That's crazy. Because it's like, I just bought shoes.

I don't know everything that's connected to everything that's going on in the world. But, and I've said this before about the Saudi with the live thing. It's just so clear. And it's as clear as it's ever going to be. And for it's still to go that direction where guys are like, I'll take it. That's where it's kind of like,

all right, fuck. It's just, it's, it's, clear than every other example where it's like I bought these shoes but then they bought stock in in Nike and it's like ah fuck but it's clear because it's easier for us to like comprehend because it's just like a headline of like this is going to this but like we just weren't there for when like all the money went into like our favorite brands and companies as well the meetings we weren't there for any of those meetings those weren't headlines those weren't on like golf central with like golf twitter people talking about it same essential thing a guy just met with them an acquisition, got money, and then started an American business and start taking people away from American businesses and starting their own businesses. It's been happening for years

upon years. It's just this is easier for us to consume. There's no doubt about that. Yeah, that's my whole point. It's way easier for us to consume. Way easier. And I like, that's kind of what you need. And, you know, these, these regimes like when things get messy because then it's, everything gets, it just becomes part of the noise. And it's like, oh, now this is just part of the landscape. So yeah, when it's when it's when it's so directly clear what is happening in my opinion, that's when I want to say something and be like, that's pretty fucking nuts and it's kind of fucked up. But like I hate when I say like an example, I'll say, well, China is a horrific regime that we've now just successfully sports. Watch and all always the response is like,

well, it's like it's different. See, I don't know. I don't know. I know nothing about it. But But it is, it's like, it's pretty much the same exact thing. They're just, they're just years upon years of successfully doing it. They've had Olympics. They've had professional sports. They've had businesses go over there. It's just like they've done the thing that we're, that Saudi Arabia is trying to do that. We're now trying to talk about not doing.

But it's like, every time I bring that up, it's like, well, that's like the same thing. It's just completely different. Right. But does that mean you shouldn't criticize the Saudi Arabian regime and like people going to Saudi Arabia? No, I don't think so. I think that's fair. I think you're allowed to criticize people, but my whole stance has been why people are doing it and why I think on a human level, someone would make that decision.

And it's not fair to me to be able to say, like, they're just a part of a Saudi Arabian regime by doing this. Because if that's the case, then I will then bring up all the other cases in which people have then done it. And then essentially the whole world is part of the Saudi Arabian regime. I genuinely think that like awareness is up in this world. better or for worse. Like, people just know about more shit that's going on. Social media headlines that you're talking about. People just know what's going on.

And I don't think, like, obviously that has its pros and its cons in a lot of ways. But in this way, people know and people are looking at it being like, wait, that's what's going on because there is an awareness of these headlines that you talk about. People being like, the Saudi regime is funding this golf league and it's paying guys way more than their worth, way more than they're worth. and why are they doing that? And that's the awareness. Like when all, again, the China stuff, I really don't know anything about. And it'd be tricky territory for me to talk about any of it because I'd know nothing. But I would assume that when it was all happening, there was less awareness about it and it just kind of happened. Nowadays, there's a lot more of people being like, look at that, look at that.

Again, there's tons of pros and cons with social media and people can just grab a headline and think what they want to think. But I do think the overall awareness of it is there, where it was. wasn't before. I agree with that. Yeah, which is, which is probably not fair to the guys now, right? Like, it's like, oh, I don't, I don't have like, yeah, I don't have the, like, easy option to just take a ton of money and not be as criticized for it as people did 10 or 20 or 30 years ago.

It's probably not particularly fair. But to your point, it is, it is true. And it's like, it is very publicly laid out. Like, oh, here are your choices, you know, Mr. Stenson. One is going to come with you looking like a complete shithead. and the other is going to come with you being a pretty good guy. It's cut and dry. It's very cut and dry.

It's two plus two equals four. The other stuff is fucking pemdos. That's right. The other stuff is so fucking just long division, ridiculous type of math. And this is legitimately one plus one equals two. I get that. I completely get that. It's easier for outrage.

It's easier for all this stuff, which is just the world we live in. When it's just a click and it's a, I hate this, that's so much easier to be able to get into an argument or have an opinion as opposed to like doing research and thinking about the other stuff like it's never going to happen that also can't go back in time and you can't like that's the bad part of it I agree with you but the awareness of it I think generally ends up being a good thing I totally get that I

I've always been on the side of like you're allowed to think that these guys are taking like bad money and that the decision they're not making the morale decision there's they're not like becoming these like knights of shining armor that are saving the world. And my whole stance the entire time has been like, when have we decided that golfers have ever had to be those types of people? And it's just for them, it sucks that it's so cut and dry that like they are now labeled as those types of people. But that's the decision they made, honestly. I mean, they knew what it was going to be. Whatever the situation came to, like, they are a part of a situation that is cut and dry and they knew what the negatives were going to be.

So it's their decision. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. But I, you know, I just think that a lot of people who see who see successful athletes, in this case the golfers, who make already millions of dollars, I just think a lot of those folks would be like, it'd be nice to see them make a morally sound decision here and like take a stand because they're already successful. They already have millions. It'd be like nice to see. And I think that's why people rally around and we're rooting as hard for Rory outside of him being European and all that.

Like is rooting is hard for Rory at the Canadian Open and at the Open Championship because it's like these are our heroes and they're kind of like it'd be cool if they live up to being heroes not just like hitting good golf shots and taking money. And like they shouldn't be ridiculed to like the billionth degree if they do, but they're going to get ridiculed to a degree for sure. And I think they probably deserve it. And I think they're probably cool with that. And some of them have gotten stabby in interviews when they're confronted with it, which is understandable. But at the end of the day, it is what it is. they're going to take the money and some are and here we are and we have heavy shows we're just heavy shows now that's what it gets that's yeah it's yeah there's so much to talk about and honestly

I think this was like the more like reasonable explanation that I've heard that like I actually agree with what you guys are saying as opposed to just being like it's wrong or it's not like it's more I totally get what you guys are saying I mean it makes more sense and honestly the business aspect to me is what made it make more sense where it's like it's so much more fishier and so many more, there's so many more connectors in the other world as opposed to this just being so A and B, this is the decision. You have one decision, you have a consequence, and this is just easier for us to be able to just strike you down. I do like that we can end it with Dan Rappaport just tweeted Charles Howell III on his decision to join live quote, money was not a factor, unquote.

It's just a lie. That's a slap in the face. Like that's, that's a slap in the face to guys like me that are trying to see the rational side on both sides and trying to play devil's advocate. And then you're just lying to us. Like that, if you just said it's the money,

at least I can, like, I can make the argument on this podcast on your behalf of being like, yeah, it is about the money and he took it. That's it. Simple as that. That is his reasoning.

At least we know his reasoning. At least we know his reasoning for taking B in the consequences. That's all we ask for. I haven't gone through all the transcripts from, what the fuck are we doing? I haven't gone through all the transcripts from all the live press conferences, but even the guys who people are heeping with praise at these live press conferences that are like a Pat Perez where he was like, feels like I won the lottery. I genuinely think that they just can't say money. Nobody has said money.

You can't say the word money if you were saying that I took it for money. It's always, you know, it was it was financially motivated or I won the lottery. It's like no one will just say I'm here for the money. And I just don't think you can. I guess that I would assume that that's a part of some packet for growing the game of golf from that area of live, right? Like I think that they don't, you would assume that the people that are hard at work to actually try and make this tour work would want the respect from the players to be like, can you at least act like this is about the golf? Right? Like, I mean, let's all like have a head on our shoulders here on this podcast and understand there's people that are making decisions here.

It's not just a guy with a gun to people's heads in the Saudi regime. They're not going to Saudi Arabia and having fucking conversations. These are real, you're shaking your head like saying that's not real. There's real fucking people there working there that are like, hey, can we try and make this a legitimate business? Can you guys, when you do your press conferences, can you at least talk about like how it's going to grow the game and we put all this money into golf? Like, is everyone ignoring that we're putting billions of dollars into the game of golf?

That outrageous situation I don't think is too far behind the curtain. It's very far behind. I mean, there's, they're only a gun to Brooks Kepka's head and saying, No, no, no, no, no, no, not Brooks said. No, come on, Trent, are we talking about? Okay. They genuinely think that that's happening right now. We, they don't, no, no.

You're not doing to Washington Post journalists. Like, it's not that crazy. Like, that's what they do. I'm not saying they're holding a gun to Brooks said, but I'm saying that's like, it's, it's menacing force. Yeah, I, I, I agree with that. No, I mean, there's the, they're obviously, but I, I, I just think that decide that what you're asking for where you're,

where you're saying they can't talk about money. I don't think that that's coming from like a, if you say it, you're dead point. I'm saying I genuinely believe my opinion would be that it's coming from more the business side of trying to create this into a legitimate business as opposed to saying, I'm only here for the money. How would that ever help them in any way from a business standpoint?

I'm just saying, right. But now the issue that we're getting to is you're being, you're by going over there taking a deal where you know you have to lie in front of people And that's a shitty, shitty position to be in. That's the crux of the issue. See, like, we're also forgetting, like, Rory McElroy, who's the Prince of the PGA tour, came out.

And like, we kind of ignore that he made these statements where he's like, if they're putting this much money into golf, maybe it is a good thing. Like, there are people that believe that at that, in that world. So like, at the end of the day, wouldn't they just take that stance? Isn't it just easier for them as a business to just say, yeah, we are putting money into the game of golf. we're trying to make it better. You really want, like, I'm just,

I genuinely think that there's people that send out that memo saying, like, this is what we're trying to push. But like, so, so when Charles Howe the third says money was not a factor, that's just a lie. And so I think that that, that is hard,

like the reason that you're using the, the reason that you're touting the point of like, oh, yeah, money going into the game of golf is a, is a great thing. And we're trying to grow. is because you cannot just say that you took the money because the part of the deal and we've seen the memos have gone out. Like here's what you say if you're asked this. That's again, you're kind of a,

you're now a puppet. You are a puppet for the sports washing, which is why we have been negative about it throughout and why people are getting flack. And if you're okay with that, that's fine, but you have made a deal with the devil. Your millions of dollars that you get comes with a negative in this case. And that negative is what we're seeing right now. That's, that's just what it is. And if you're okay with it, you're okay with it. Yeah. No, I, yeah, at the end of the day, like, if you think that they're saying that because they don't want to be murdered, then that's one thing. Or if you think they're saying it because, like, their tour executive said to say it, then that's another thing. Like, I, I tend to believe that it's probably the people like in Florida that are sending them like a text

message being like, hey, just don't say it's about the money. We're trying to like grow the tour. Yeah, I agree with that. but those people that are sending that are backed by and paid by and reporting to people people. Yes, I agree. Which is dicey to say the best. Incredibly. Very simply said, very dicey.

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