Fore Play - Morikawa, Nordqvist, and Piot

Episode Date: August 26, 2021

Big show, 3 guests. Collin Morikawa (00:47:32) (the 2021 Open champion), Anna Nordqvist (01:01:09) (the 2021 Women’s Open champion), and James Piot (01:25:36) (the 2021 U.S. Amateur champion) all join the show. How is Collin feeling about wearing a suit to the Northern Trust per Frankie’s recommendation and what was it like battling it out down the stretch at Royal St. George’s? How proud is Anna after holding off an army of contenders this past Sunday at Carnoustie? How is James handling his newfound U.S. Amateur fame, and what’s it like from his end being a Barstool Athlete? This and we react to Tony Finau finally getting it done at Liberty National.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. FourPlay. I'm back for the second show of the week. We have a big show. I don't know if we've ever had three guests on ever in the history of the show, three separate guests. I mean, we had the Jonas Brothers all together. But this is three separate guests, three separate interviews.

And they're big ones. We have the Open Champion, Kala Moracala. We have the AIG Women's Open Champion, Anna Norquist, and we have the U.S. amateur champion, James Piot, who's also a Barstall athlete. We have three interviews on one golf, four-play podcast. So, you know, we're just, yeah, we're just three, three recent, enormous major champions, really.

Big time champions. From three different realms of golf, from amateur golf, it's unbelievable from women's showing our range. We're really showing our range with these. You never know what you're going to get with the boys. You just never know what you're going to get. And we have some pertinent things to discuss. Morikawa just showed up to Liberty National in a suit, which was Frankie Borrelli's idea.

Everyone's like, it's not a suit. It's a jacket and slacks. Like, suck my asshole, you assholes. It's a fucking suit. We discussed him dressing up nice. He wore a fucking suit. You can wear a two-tone suit. if you want to.

This guy showed up. We talked about it on the podcast. He made crazy waves across the news. I mean, he took over the Northern Trust on a day that he missed the cut. So that's just how you know that it made waves. Very nice to speak to Kalamorakawa. And Paiet, James Paiot was, is it Piot? Is it Piot?

Okay. Piat. I was going to maybe dress it up when we talked to him. I was a little nervous about that. I didn't know exactly where to go. Was it like a Merlot? Was it a Merlot? That guy was awesome.

What a good head on his shoulders for just being in college, U.S. Am champion. I mean, he really, really answers some good questions. He had some great responses. You could tell that he is very, very thoughtful with the way he speaks, but he's also just a kid. Like, he reminded me of like the Morikawa in that sense where it's like, man, this kid's very mature, but he's also so fucking young. I agree with you. I didn't know if you were going to continue on after that hot start with a couple curse words

right into our listeners' ears as they opened it out. But yeah, you know, it's one of those days. Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them. I saw all I hear is like, well, actually, he's not wearing a suit. If you went to the store in order to suit, you wouldn't get what Collinor Cow was wearing. It's like, well, if you suck my dick, maybe things will be better. Hey, I, the whole, he didn't dress like he's going to a wedding.

he dressed like you told him to he dressed like he's an NFL player a quarterback NBA player arriving at their game that's how he dressed the point is is he wore something that he otherwise would not have worn if the conversation hadn't happened he wore a suit I won't I won't succumb I don't care what you I don't fucking care what you call it all I know is that he wore something on a special occasion because you guys talked about and he was like oh that'll be a cool idea I'll wear it on the ferry. People will like that. And people loved it.

It went viral. It was all over the place. And it was good to talk to him right after to hear, like, his response to it, how the fans responded to it. How other guys on tour responded to it. It's just a cool thing. And hopefully it continues. Yeah. It would have continued too.

He actually, we talked in the DMs. And I was like, hey man, like that was fucking awesome. Like right after it. And he was like, boy, was I about to bring. out some outrageous looks these next two days. He's like, I can't believe I couldn't make it to the next, like, just make the cut. And he's like, this will come back. I, like, I can guarantee it.

How much of this also now falls on the broadcast, that broadcast these tournaments? Like, they got to find the entrance. They got to find the parking lot where these players come in and try to catch it. Because without that, it's just a tree falling in the woods. But if you actually put a camera there and then you start getting guys who just look like garbage who look like shit maybe they'll start to be like oh maybe i should start to wear something a little bit nicer and that'll do it but we need the cameras in the parking lot who look like uh the guys that well they look like jason duffner when he was getting his own shoes out of his car at beth page black with like a

minivan remember that it doesn't have to be a suit it's just has to be these guys personality like morikawa happened to look incredible on a ferry on his way to the northern tress and a suit like he was very, very clean cut, looked awesome. Everyone was like, look at this fucking dapper guy about to go play golf. But like, a Kisner could show up in like a t-shirt and shorts if you wanted to or like overalls or something. Camel. Camel rolls. Yeah. Like that is something that we would go just as crazy for. I mean, it is on the broadcast. It's on them to make sure they show it. Like we saw and this guy just won and we're about to get into it. But Tony Fee now, the more he won, Trent and I

were at the Northern Trust at Liberty National. And Tony fucking Fee now was strolling up to the practice screen with a backwards hat on, AirPods in, his shirt untucked and like Jordan's on, like legitimately just strolling in as if he wasn't about to go win

the Northern Trust. If that had been his entrance, people would have went just as crazy as they did for like the day Tiger walked into the PGA championship with his backwards hat and glasses on where he looked like a maniac. Like Tony Fiedow looked like

your everyday just like bro walking out of his car onto the green and no one took a video or picture of it. That's on us too. Yeah, he's also got that beard now. And maybe we're just, you know, we're biased now because he just won. But with that beard, he looks more mature. He looks way cooler.

He's just got a great look. It's so funny. We haven't talked about this, but I looked at you. Tony walked by us. This is the morning before he won the fucking tournament. And I said, Tony looks like he leveled up. You did say that. I was like, he looks different right now. Like, he looks like he's in a video game, and he has gotten more levels than the other

people. Like, he's bigger, he's stronger, he's glowing. Something happened to Tony this morning that he is, he looks different. And then he fucking won the thing. Yeah. 65. Shot a six under 65 in the final round to, uh, obviously get into a playoff and win. Um, so we're going to get into Tony. First, we got to get into Owens mixers. It's transfusion day, ladies and gentlemen. So get yourself into a lovely time today, tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday,

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So big thanks to Ellen's mixture is always supporting us. So Tony Feenow broke through. He has had almost 2,000 days since his first PGA tour win in 2016. He has eight runner-up finishes, eight, including four playoff holes that he has played, and 39 top 10 finishes since his last win in 2016. it had obviously become a very common storyline. There's Tony Fidow again. Yes, making a boatload of money.

Yes, clearly playing consistently and well, so that must be great. And yes, it must be infuriating because you just know coming down the stretch at Tony Fienow is not going to win the tournament. He's going to miss a few short putts that somehow cost him. Yet this time, he kept it together. He played extremely well.

He shot, I believe, like 30 or 31 on the back nine. in his final round. And then on the 18th hole, 752nd hole, he had himself a six-footer or so after a pretty good bunker shot. He had a six-footer. And I was as nervous over a putt as I've been in a long time when Tony had that six-footer

because he misses it. He's obviously not in the playoff. He loses the tournament, pours it right in the center, and then steps up and pipes one in the playoff hole. Cam Smith hits Louis Ooste, who's in like T-shot in the playoff, way right.

into the harbor massive slice. Turn them and over. Tony Fiedel breaks through and wins. That approach shot on 18 after I just got something really. Take a couple seconds out there. Well, listen, here's what's really going on is that I caught like a stray bullet of what Frankie got. Frankie got hit by a bazooka. And I know we talked about that on the last podcast.

I caught like a little bit of it. So I just keep having catches in my throat. And I have to clear my throat. Like the things that I spit into the shower in the morning, nobody wants to know about. But what I was going to say is that Tony Fienow's approach on 18 felt like we were running downhill and it was another Tony Fienow loss. The up and down from the bunker was incredible. And I have decided, I think it's mean, looking back on it now, I think it was mean how much we were counting the days and the starts and all the top tens since Tony Fienow's last win.

Like the first thing, Amanda Ballionis, who's great, the first thing she said, to Tony was like, hey man, it's been 1,989 days since your last win. And it's like, obviously it feels good now. But it's just like, I feel like we've seen so many graphics of since Tony Fienow's last win. And it just, it feels mean. And I'm glad that he has that monkey off his back because hitting like 2,000, 3,000 days is just too many days in between your last win. And I guess it speaks to how good Tony is. People are like, can you believe that this guy hasn't won in this many days?

but we don't count starts and days for everybody else, only Tony Fee now. Well, because he's been so close, and it's been, I mean, even he on his Twitter was like, the weight is finally over. So, like, it was, I mean, it was, when you're that good, that close to the top and consistently falling just a little bit short and, like, the parody in golf is insane. I think it was impossible not to count it. And I would say, like, Camp Smith flared his first one right, put the second one in the bunker. if I was Tony and I still like, it's just dead, right?

I was like, I just have to hit something up there. I thought there was actually a sneaky amount of pressure for how long he's been waiting to win on that approach. Because it's like, you're expected to win at that point. There should be no issue. And that could be like the big collapse. So, yeah, it was good to see him win one. But I think the county of the days is almost fair at this point.

Yeah, I'm going to miss the jokes, obviously. I think everyone is here that Tony Fienow is just a perennial loser can't finish. We all love Tony too, which is a weird thing that we like to make fun of him for not being able to finish. It's not that we like to make fun of him. It's just something that's like comforting that like Tony Fienow does not win golf tournaments. It's also just a storyline. It's a storyline.

Like anytime it's in the top five coming down the back nine, you, if it's, if it doesn't include Tony Fee now, it's just another finish of a tournament. If it does include Tony Fee now, it's like, oh, this guy always finishes second. here we go and then he finished his second yeah and then i think we might have made ourselves an enemy with cam smith i don't know if you guys saw on instagram i don't know if we made this um graphic or if we just took it and put it on our instagram but that his when he made contact and it just flew right and we wrote that's all folks to the to the uh that was strong tracer did we put that up that was strong i know who made it i know who made it nick hamilton of kfc

Radio made that because I tweeted I just tweeted a screenshot of that tracer because I was like I mean that's like that's my miss like when my ball starts going right and it's just gone so I tweeted that and then Nick Hamilton from the KFC radio crew put that under my tweet

and I quote tweet his said this is super funny but also super mean it's really funny it's on our Instagram go look it's actually one of the funnier graphics I've ever seen and Cam Smith wrote underneath the picture on 4Play and wrote he wrote the keyboard warriors are at it

look at the keyboard warriors go I love it with a laughing emoji so it's like Cam Smith was not happy with that that that meme is fair play that is fine we make fun of everybody we make fun of ourselves he I don't think he cares that much he's an Aussie bloke he gets it I would hope so that's what I mean it's such a funny graphic

it's it's he did hit the ball on another planet and cancer you're a professional golfer in which people are going to report or talk about your golf shots there's no keyboard warring warring going on like we are just watching the golf like you well i would also i would argue that he also is right like we are keyboard like we're not real life warriors we wouldn't go up to him in real life and be like ha ha that's all folks like we are right true that's like what we do so that's I think everybody's right. It's not a negative. I just hate when professional athletes are like, well, you go out there and score a goal.

It's like, well, no, like, that's not what we're doing here. The only reason why you're professional athletes is because we're fans of the sport or else you'd just be playing in your backyard, like, because you're really good at this one activity. But like, because we've all invested, now you make millions and millions of dollars, you have to allow us to be able to say you did bad or you did good. Like, there's no, that's why I fucking hate when, when coaches won't speak to the media. They're like, no, not today. It's like, what do you mean not today?

If you don't speak to the media, you're not a coach. Like what you, there are no sports without fans. So Cam Smith, yeah, we're going to write, that's all folks. And we're going to like, we're going to talk about it all the time. Right. Funny is funny. Right. And the graphic that Nick Hamilton made was very funny.

And we're going to put that up. Like, that's just good fun. I don't, it's not like we don't hate Cam Smith. We have nothing. And even if we did, who cares? well yeah but but we don't so it's even more the other way it's just like it's a funny thing and i actually i had not seen that he had responded to it now that's a funny thing that if we ever get him on the show we can talk to him yeah and i don't we get him on the show i would say too

him writing i love it to me like diffuses it a little bit like it doesn't yeah i don't think it comes off like he's uh legit pissed but again i would say the same thing i said to brice and he was complaining in the dms to me it was like bro we make fun of everyone including ourselves the most. Like if one of us was in a big live stream to match on 18 and we sprayed one right OB to lose the whole thing, we would put that meme on ourselves and it would be funny. So like we just make fun of everyone. Dude, if Kevin Kisner hits that same drive in that same situation, we make that same graphic and we put it up in the same way. I hope Kamp Smith was laughing at that because he is such a likable guy with his straggly hair and the mustache that he grows like me

where it barely comes in and it's hideous. Like, I love Cam Smith. He's a cartoon character type guy, and I need him to be able to laugh at that image. Like, dude, you finish second at the Northern Trust. Like, what's the big deal here? Like, it's a funny thing. You're on national television hitting balls into the harbor.

Like, you almost hit the fucking Statue of Liberty off the T-Box. It was the worst drive we've ever seen in a playoff since Louis Oostohusen. I mean, come on, man, let's figure this out. Let's laugh at this and let's move on. Let's wear a keyboard wear your shirts to the next tournament. I can't say that sentence. Keyboard Warriors. Keyboard Warriors.

Did I butcher that? You said keyboard wires or something. It was weird. Yeah. It's funny shit, man. Cam Smith. Damn. Yeah.

I didn't see that either. I'm glad that you guys brought that up. And I hope, yeah, now we have a talking point. We have a little icebreaker with our friend Cam Smith, who, I believe, like, Lurch, didn't you have, like, a one-on-one conversation with him in Melbourne or something like that? Yeah, we were standing, because he wasn't playing. one day at the President's Cup and the two of us just found ourselves kind of between a green and tea box and we were talking about all sorts items we're talking what did you say like

what kind of a security software are you using on your uh like what are your accounts there you say are you happy with your current drone no it's your police force using VR it would have been good questions no we were talking we both had to go to the bathroom rope kind of trapped in this area and then we started going down a path of what if we both just peed our pants here and then I was talking about how my grandpa had like a little bag around you know his balls and peed into a bag and the whole bit so we had a we had a pretty fun chat about 15 or 20 minutes this is what you talked to camp smith about i got to tell you i actually kind of like it but i didn't know that this was the conversation oh yeah no we had a funny we probably spoke for 20 minutes as his caddy came

over um and then uh 20 minutes a long time at a certain point yeah at a certain point we had to go to the bathroom badly. Like he could go to a cooler place than I could. So I had to make a move for it. You did 20 minutes on pee in your pants? I don't know, on random topics. Just like, who's he, who am I? Just chatting about nothing.

No thought to pull out a phone and get like video or anything there. 20 minute conversation with Kahn Smith at the President's Cup. Just no evidence of it, nothing. Media company, but lurches out there for a stroll. Yeah, sometimes little Bonnie report goes a long way to. Yeah, it's got a long way. The guy's commenting on our Instagram photos saying we're fucking keeping it. Saying love it.

Saying love it. He finished with love it. Now we got another thing we can talk about. Pissing your pants is the president's guy. We need to talk to Cam Smith. We need to talk to Cam Smith. This is an invite. This is an invitation.

Cameron Smith. We like you. Your mustache, your mullet, your whole Aussie thing that you got going on. Your fucking slices OB in the first playoff hole. Your comments on Instagram. Pee in your pants with lurch. We got a lot to talk about it. So Cameron Smith, this is a official invite.

sure somebody out there listens to this show that has a connection to Cameron Smith, we'd fucking love to have him on the podcast. He was having breakfast with Abe Answer the other day too, so I know you guys were mixing it up with him. I know one of our guys. I have Abe Answer's phone number. I kind of lured him into giving me his phone number. You do it.

Talk to us about that. Well, it was on video. Everybody saw that video. Oh, yeah. See, our conversations are on the record. You know what I mean? You could just go to Foreplay Twitter and just see everything we said to Abe answer.

But yeah, he, I mean, he was pretty adamant that he was. wanted our information to send us this damn hats. He came running across the green. Like you could see, he was, I would say, speedwalking across the green. I want to say a shout out to someone right now. We mentioned this name, Louis Oostehuzen. And on your little outline that you send for the show rigs, two shows ago, you mentioned that this guy, Chris from the gallery, said that you shouldn't call him Louis Oostahusen. You should call him Louis Eustahusen. And I, I've been laughing about that. And I've been laughing about that for a couple days now. It's something that's going to stick in my brain.

Louis used to losing is so good, so mean, and so fitting. Chris, hats off to you, whoever you are. I don't know how we've never thought of that. It's been right on the tip of our tongue right there the entire time. Louis used to losing. Holy shit that I thought of that when I tweeted. Because I said oops-to-hoozen every time he hits it out of bounds or he loses. And I thought that was funny, but used to losing.

I mean, that's what he is. He is used to losing. He is a perennial second place finisher. He's a serial loser when it comes to fucking golf tournaments. Used to losing. God. Yeah, I remember, I think, too, that guy's email just said, it had said nothing else. The only thing was just the body of the email said, you should call him Louis used to losing.

And that was it. It was no greeting. It was not that it was. You know, you know what's another thing that that we realized on Monday is that John Rom doesn't quite have the mental thing totally figured out. Oh, yeah. Dude, we hadn't seen it in a while. What's that? You think they're protecting him a little bit?

Because we don't see it. No, I'm just saying that those final three or four holes was just a complete meltdown. Like if he had just made a couple putts and not thrown up all over himself, he wins that tournament in regular. but instead he doesn't even make the playoff and he was just he was missing putts just hitting it in bad spots and he was furious and I really think he let it get to him which I feel like we haven't seen a while he's been on such a run winning majors finishing high in every single tournament that to see him like actually I don't know if I can call it a meltdown but he was mad and it clearly affected his play that like we've always talked in the show at least

recently that oh he's a father now he's more mature All the comments that he makes are very mature and he seems to have leveled out a little bit. No, no, no. No. When he plays poorly, he is still very mad and it very much affects his game. You could tell the mood changed amongst Dottie and Trevor Immelman on the golf course. When he was starting to lose his shit, Doddy was like, he's got to get his temper under control out here.

And you could tell, you can almost hear her feet shifting. She was getting away from him. They were all moving. There was a complete mood change. I think on the 16th hole. John Rom, they were all, is that like the one that's really short part four, and they were all basically chipping on. So they're all right there on a little flip wedge onto the green on their second shot. Cam Smith hits his tight.

He's one stroke back at this point. You got to make this birdie, and you're going to end up, you're in it. You're just going to be tied with Tony Feeneau. And he fucking just like blades away to like the back of the green. And it was unraveling after that, like, smacking his like leg and. breathing heavy, wasn't even like reading the greens, like wasn't looking at his caddy, like hitting putts, like breathing. And you can tell Dottie's like, he's got to control himself. Like this is, I think at one point Trevor O'Melman's like, this is getting away from him.

And it was like, you're like, holy shit, like something's happening out there that we're not seeing that this guy is like muttering to himself. He's talking. He's getting angry. He's about to unleash. Yeah, every time he stepped up to a next shot, I thought we were going to see a helicopter toss. I really did. It was nice, it was nice, though. It was comforting to see John Ron be like that again. I agree with that. I kind of, yeah, it's almost like, oh yeah, he's not, uh, this is the real raw genuine you. This isn't some crafted image thing that you're trying to come up with. This is John Rom. He's still inside that, you know, Coke bottle of a body that he's got there. Right. You're not this like Papa that like is like, like rocking the baby to sleep. Like,

that's not your image. You are a lunatic golfer that wants to absolutely take the heads off every single person in your path and you want to win golf tournaments and if you don't you're going to let everyone know how mad you are that's the john rome we've come to know and love and fear and that is what we saw kind of on monday i mean i i agree with you train it was nice to see that i agree it was he was as mad as i've seen him in a long time and i was i was happy not having to be since you guys since you guys were out there on monday i thought you were saying that like when he walked from the parking lot to the putting green or something he was like I don't know, berating people and like breaking fucking clubs over his leg.

I was like, what do we miss out there? No, it all happened in the last four holes. He missed a par putt and he was hitting his putter against his hand. I think he was going to put the putter through his hand. He was hitting it so hard and I was like this is going to be a very entertaining last three holes. And it was. He kept hit, he hit it all over the place. He made a mess of 18.

He made a mess of that short par four. and it was just, it was nice to see. How frustrating do you think it is for John Ron that he knows he could and should win every single golf tournament that he plays in? And little things like that stop him from winning. I mean, the guy's finishing top five in every single time he plays in a golf tournament.

His numbers and his results are out of this world, good? It's got to be so frustrating for a guy who has proven and actually said, he's admitted, that he has anger issues on the golf course, and he has to like cope with them and figure them out. And he had to get like a bomb diffuser to help him learn how to like process all of this stuff in his brain. That guy is constantly put in a situation in which he has to control his emotions. You know what I mean?

Like, like he's always in a pressure cooker. Like he's never not, he's never just like out there for a stroll shooting like a 74 and finishing T-27. Like Kevin Kisner, his heart rate never wavers. He's just like T-25. Like, it's just, he just knows who he is. Kevin Kisner knows who he is, unless when he wins. But John Rahm is like, it's always about to explode. The lava is pushing the fucking lid off.

And it's like, is this thing going to fucking come out or no? Constantly every week. I feel like it's been pretty quiet, though, of late. So, like, I haven't seen these outbursts like you have, but I guess this last time I must have missed them because. But it's because when he's playing really well, it doesn't come out. Yeah.

When he's playing, he's been playing so well recently that you just don't see it because he's on cloud nine. That's how he wishes he could be all the time because he's calm. When he's playing well, he's very calm. But then when the wheels start to come off, then the old John Rom starts to come back and he's angry. I would say it's a little bit of a chicken or the A argument for me because I would say in order for him to play well like he has so well, I think he has to be able to manage his frustrations better than he used to because, like, you hit bad shots. Even when you're playing really well, you hit bad shots. Yeah.

But I don't think, like, he hasn't just changed as a human being. His DNA didn't just change. His chemical makeup didn't just switch to a Kevin Kisner-like demeanor on the golf course. So there is a guy in there that can explode. And so I think it's a little bit, like, it's this constant tugging back and forth, like a tug-and-forth. like a tug of war, I feel like, and he's, he's closer to neutral, but like, he still could get pulled that way where the inner demon inside of John Rom is defeating, like, the good golfer calm John Rob, and he just fucking explodes. And we saw that in the last four holes. That tournament was

over. He had like a two-shot lead. He's going up against Tony Feeneau, who's a perennial loser until now, and he's going up against these guys who don't have the firepower really that he has. And he's got a two-shot lead. And he's in, he's in the, he's in the, position where he has more holes to play. So like if they make birdie in front of him, he could just burdy the hole too. So it was over. And then all of a sudden he bogies 15, doesn't birdie 16, doesn't birdie 17, bogey's 18 and loses the golf tournament. And you're right. He just like, when he was playing that shitty and when he did something that it was like he's running out of time, everything kind of added up in the real John Ron, please stand up.

And he did. And he's banging his fucking hand again. That is such a move of like, Boy, am I pissed off, but I don't want to look too pissed off. He was so mad. Slamming your fucking hand against your own butter. I mean, he's fucking Bruce Banner. He's the fucking Hulk. He is the Hulk. He has two personalities.

One of them is like this one that we're allowed to be in society with. And the other one is this one that we run for the hills. And you can't even imagine what kind of person that is. What kind of monster that is. So, I mean, it's got to be, he probably does the same breathing exercises as Bruce Banner, where it's like just don't let the green man come out. Do not let the green man come out. He's got the, he's probably wearing a woop.

They're monitoring his heart. And if the, if it gets above a certain beats per minute, he's just, he's going to put a club into somebody's head. You see his eye change? It's like, oh no. Doddy goes sprinting, jumps into the harbor. It's like, holy fuck. But like we're saying, and I think we all agree, that's the John Rom that we love.

Yep. The one who lose it. Like the family man, father, very mature. press releases. Good for you. Everything that we've seen in the last 12 months is fine, but the guy that I saw in the last four holes at Liberty

National on Monday, that's the guy that I've grown to love, and like Frankie said, fear. Yes. You guys see this fucking dog watching the travel series? No. No. That's awesome. I love that thing.

Look at this dog. Just laying on his bag watching the travel series. That is amazing. Yeah, the new episode that everybody should watch that thing. Dude, that episode is so good. They did such a good job. Our graphics team, we've got

ebug, and then we've got Garrett. I don't even know if we've talked about Garrett, but Garrett is on the team now. He is really good when it comes to these like 3D motion graphics, and he's adding a lot of things that I've always wanted to add into the videos where it's like visual cues, right?

I feel like when you're watching a really long hour and a half golf video, a lot of the things we say or a lot of the information that like these people at the golf courses will talk about like sometimes it just goes in one ear or out the other and he's like adding these like visual cues where it's like oh yeah they'll be like a little thing that says pot bunker or like there was this one part of the video where it was chicken shit alley that they talked about which i thought was really funny where if you laid it out left that was chicken shit alley and then in the drone shot there's this huge wording as if it was like uh it was it was almost like someone built this fucking sign that said chicken shit alley on it. You saw like, it was so cool the way that we're adding that stuff. So shout out to those guys. Obviously, Jake who's out there filming when we were out there

grinding his dick off. So what a fucking video that is, man. It is not easy to turn around those videos this fast. I don't know if people are understanding what our production team is really doing. Like, I don't know that you could find another fucking

video company, especially at Barstool, number one, that is pumping out these types of videos on a consistent basis. Like, these are fucking six hour long, three camera, four camera, five camera, really, with a drone, shoots with all this audio and you're getting every shot from four different guys in and you got turn it around within like two or three weeks. Plus you have like the Breaking 100 and Riggs's videos. It's like it's nuts.

It's absolutely crazy what these guys are doing this year. Our production team is outrageous. And it's just really two or three guys. It's been two, and then now we've got Garrett. We met Garrett for the first time. I met Garrett for the first time at the watch party we're calling it. Owens Mixers, watch party last week. Extremely nice guys, nice as they come.

So our crews, they're nice, they're professional, they work their absolute dicks off. I think we've got to get Garrett a new name. I don't know that I think like... You don't like Garrett. You don't like the name, Garrett. Look, we're nicknames We call it like Bass And we got eBug

And we got like We got nicknays And we got fucking Garrett Like I just don't know That we can I think we got to come up with a I hate the name for Garrett It just doesn't

It's like I feel like I gotta brush my teeth Every time I say his name I feel like I gotta brush my teeth It's just a it's a mouthful Like Garrett There's so many consonants It's so many consonants It's a horrible name

There's two R's two T Garrett It's just we gotta come up with something better And it's such a nice guy He deserves better. So nice. Garrett deserves to be called something better than Garrett.

Criticizing the family over there. He deserves better. No, they didn't know what he was going to come out like. They just kind of came up with the name. He is nice. He's a Michigan guy too. Yeah, he's a Midwest guy. Another Midwest guy, Michigan guy.

Yeah, we'll think of something because now I'm starting to turn on the name Garrett. I didn't want to. I didn't wake up this morning thinking I'm going to start disliking the name Garrett. But you guys have swayed me that I don't want to say Garrett. I think he realized that I didn't. like the name Garrett the first time. No, because like Grinnelli's G and I like that's just like whenever I think a G I think of Greenlelly. Okay. I, I, I, because I was going to say that, but then I, no, I think Garrett realized that I hated the name when I first met him and I looked at him and I'm like,

not many famous garrets are there. And he was like, no, there's none. And we looked it up and we were like Garrett Cole, but you don't spell it the same way. That's like Garrett. He's like Garrett. So yeah, we really got into this discussion being Garrett where we were like, man, There's no one famous with your name, which just goes to show. It's a horrible name. Maybe we'll have to. I don't know what his last name is, but we can maybe do like an initial. His last name is.

Don't say. Don't say. Don't say his last name. What I'm saying is that we do, we can do what? You would use it to shut your mouth thing. Well, I didn't want to, we don't need to put. Shut your mouth. I didn't want that.

I was going for the initials. Yeah. We could do his initials. I don't want to put Garrett's government name out there. if he doesn't want. No. That's what I don't know. No. What is Garrett hiding?

We're not trying to docks anybody here. But, uh, but yeah, we just got to come up with a different name. I don't know what it is, but Garrett's not it. He's, he, he, I like everything about him a lot except for his name. One of the worst names I've ever heard. Uh, which isn't his fault. He doesn't, it's, I don't know how many, it's like, you just, I don't know. How many famous, uh, there's a lot of Trent, this Trent's, Trent Dilfer.

How many, how many, how many, how many, not a, not many that I can. Yeah. I don't. Trent Dilfer's kind of the only one. Trent Dilfer's a good plot, too. That's a word that name. I don't know. That's pretty good.

Because I'm thinking me, it's like, you know, a little guy named Frank Sinatra, Frankie Valley, you know, you can go down the list. But Trent's, man. Holy smokes. Trent Reznor. There you go. I have no idea what that was, but yeah.

What? Trent Rezner? Isn't that 9-inch nails? Hmm. Could be. Lead singer of 9-inch Nails? I wouldn't know. Yeah, could be.

Speaking of hateable names, I'm going to give a shout out to my guy Chad, who got an ace at Skokie Country Club. I was in the group this past weekend on Sunday. There's an absolutely brutal part three. It was like 175 into the wind with a strong right to left and into wind. And he hit a seven iron just to the right of it. The wind took it. It landed 10 feet short, rolled towards the hole.

We were all like, go in and just disappeared and went in. and we went absolutely crazy. How many hole-in-ones have you seen? Dude, I saw my brothers at Band and Dunes. I didn't really watch it going because I was taking pictures, if you recall the story, and then those turned into live photos, which we have kind of footage of his whole-in-one.

And then my buddy Pete and Aaron Hills, like four or five weeks ago, I was in the group behind, so I didn't actually see it go in, but I ran over to the green because I heard him go crazy. This one I literally, I think it might be the first one outside of the cradle, where I've actually watched with my own eyes that ball go into the hole and disappear. God, I've never seen that. I don't think I ever will see it.

And you guys know me in reactions. Like, I'll go fucking crazy if someone drains a hole in one. I'll embarrass myself. My boy, Chad, like, ran to the front of the tee box and, like, jumped in the air and did like a weird one-armed, like, pump. And we were like, what, what you do after that? He's like, I don't know, man. He just went crazy.

So he like went nuts. He's a, I don't know, he's like a 10 or 12 handicap. And so for him, like, this is his first one. It was in like his favorite tournament of the year with like a bunch of his favorite people. His brother was in the group in front. And the T-box from 13 is right next to 12 green. So he looked back and he ran across the green to confirm that it went in. And then he looks in the hole and looks up and goes, yeah, we just went crazy.

So it was fantastic. And I, yeah, I feel like I've seen a million. and fucking aces all in cool places. Like I said, my brother, Bandon, Pete, Aaron Hills, Chad, Skokie Country Club. It's amazing. Fuck, man. Yeah, I don't think I'll ever see it.

Right, I've never seen one. I want to see one because I want to believe that it can happen. Right now, I'm almost to believe it just never happens for anybody. Dude, the other day... Was it with you when we played on my birthday that I almost flew that golf ball into that hole? And we were like, holy fuck. Like, that was...

When you think about... out where that ball landed, like all things considered really close to a hole in one. Oh yeah. Yeah, I was out there. That was at Rockville. And it was a par three. And I went right behind the pin. And everyone was like, whoa.

And it was like four or five feet behind the pin. And, you know, just a regular, just good shot. And when we walked up to the fucking hole, the landing spot was, I mean, inches away from this hole. And it was like, you think to yourself like, man, of all. All the things that could have happened to this ball. It came this fucking close to landing in this fucking little hole in the ground. That just makes me think it's never going to happen to me. Because it was as good of a shot as I could have hit.

And we didn't even really notice it until we got up there, which makes me think it'll really never happen. How about in that same group, my friend John, hold out from like 100 yards. And the whole afternoon, nobody even brought it up. because it just was a complete and he was like over the court he's like that's the first time I've ever hold out

I think like in my life I'm just like man you got totally screwed it's like just as impressive as a hole in one like a hundred yard shot off of like not perfectly manicured fairway or rough wherever he hit it from it's almost more difficult where it's like not set up for you to make

like a par three is set up for you to get the ball in the hole and everything's right it's not teed up it's not teed up it's it's nothing he's just doing it dude it was like to an uphill shot to a turtleback green right pin like really hard shot to get anywhere closer even on the green for a lot of people and he holds out hundred yards i don't think like everyone's like saying goodbye later half the group was gone and then he by the way we were like oh yeah john hold out today i i want to say i want to say congratulations to john that is a hell of an accomplishment we still you, we know what you did, and we are proud of you, John.

Yeah, he deserves that. He does. But it was, it was awesome. So anytime you see an ace, it's cool. I'll never have one. I know that very clear. Cross-country mortgage. We're talking about home buying before and how expensive it is.

Yeah. Homes are a lot of money, man. Homes are just a lot of money. It's a nightmare. And doing it alone, like, without a cross-country mortgage, I don't even know if it's possible. I don't know, like, going out and trying to, trying to find lenders and mortgages and rates and all this stuff.

Like, it's a, it's a scary world out there. It feels like everyone's trying to get you. It feels like everyone's trying to, you're already spending a lot of money, and it feels like you need to be aligned with people that are on your side. And what I've found, and I'm in this process now, I actually am in the email process now with cross-country mortgage, I'm filling out paperwork, and we're about to do it. And you can just tell, like, these guys on this team, these guys and gals are on my side cross-country mortgage wants me to figure it out they want to get me

you know the best rates the quickest pre-approvals all that stuff so um it's a scary world though man like you're putting a lot of money into something that like you just own now and it's like a home and it's i mean in this life in this weird world we call life it's like one of the only things you got to do is like buy like a property you know what i mean it's like the american dream you got to like get a house. You got to do it. You got to figure out where you're going to live. You do it like what?

A couple times in your whole life. Like it's, right. It's big decision. There's a couple big decisions in life and this is one of them. Oh, yeah. And I'm just like using cross-country mortgage for that decision.

That's how, that is how good they are. And that's like how you know this. This isn't just an ad deal. I'm doing it. Like, I'm physically doing it. I would say where you're going to go to college, if you go to college,

who you're going to, marry, buying a home, maybe like if you're going to have like another kid, how many kids maybe. So I would say buying a home is in the top three or five of biggest decisions you ever make. I'd say it's the top three decision in your life. I also got a hit on the kid comment. I think the kids are a big decision too. Rigs, I don't know, started over that one. No, but here's what I'm saying is where do you focus on what's the big part about the kids decision?

Is it like how many you have? Is it like having kids in general? I'm bringing human life into the world. The first time is a massive decision. I'm going to say that's a number of one. That decision then affects decades in the future. Oh, yeah. I can't imagine having a kid.

I thought about that the other day. I mean, I will, but it's like, boy, I can barely care about myself. Care about myself. Cross-country mortgage is much like us at bars, the way people first group of people. Rates are unbelievably low. Do not pay the bank more money than you need to. And they put an exclamation point in there.

So I'm going to read that again with some emotion. Don't pay the bank more money than you need to. Our friends over at Crosscarrying Mortgage make it super simple to figure out how much you can save on a monthly basis and over the life of your loan. Again, rates are in an all-time low. May never get this low again. Call today for a fast free rate.

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experience or to refinance your current mortgage. Cross Country Mortgage LLC NMLS 3029, all loans subject to underwriting approval. go to www. NMLS Consumer Access.org. My first email I sent them was very funny. I was like, Hey, Chris, this is Frankie. I'm looking to get into the home buying process.

And I'd love for you to help me out with that. Let me know where I got to start. And he's like, yeah, you got to start, like, you got to start something. You can't just, like, there is no, like, you can't just say I want to buy a home. And like, I declare. That's kind of how I did it. I was like, hey, I'm looking to get a home.

Can you get that for me? He's like, we're going to need you to do some work here. Yeah, he's like, have you, have you picked out a home or narrowed it down? And you're like, no. No, no, dude, I just want a home, you know. I want to put my stuff somewhere. I've got stuff. Bakery.

Frankie went to the bakery. He's like, you know, I'll take one of those homes. I've got a bunch of stuff. And I just want to put it somewhere. You know, I want, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, be able to go somewhere. I think that was an old George Carlin joke where he was just like your life is just moving your stuff around. Like I got a bunch of stuff. Like when I moved from Iowa to New York, it was like, what's the thing I had to focus on the most? It's just, I got all this stuff and I just got

take it with me. And then when I move apartments, I got to take the stuff that I've kept and I'm going to move it somewhere else. It's just like you got a bunch of stuff right now that you want to put into a new house. That's your own. When you go on like a trip or a work trip or a commitment, you got to like bring stuff with you. And then the big, the whole thing is like, like putting that stuff into bags and then bringing all your stuff back to where all your other stuff is. We're just walking around taking stuff with us all the time. That's such a good joke. I don't know what it was exactly.

I'm sure I've but I've buttered it, but I remember him saying something. I thought you did well. Thanks. All right, folks. We'll look it up once we've done here and see how bad I've butchered it. Next up, we'll be back on Tuesday, as always. But next up, we've got, you know, the second of the BMW. So enjoy that.

We'll be here to break it down on Tuesday. And then we're going to hit you with three interviews. We have Kalamor Kala and Norquist. and James Piot. So enjoy these interviews. Also, real quick, sorry, if you're in New York City, slice. I'm going to be in New York City. Trent will be there tonight, I think, when this podcast comes out.

We're just working at Borelli's pop-up shop. It's Barstle sports activation. We're all going to be there. Glennie Balls, Ria, Big Cat. Everyone's going to be stopping by making pizzas. We're trying to get my pizza guy Laredo to come. He just goes from his house to Borellies, but they're just going to pick him up and then drive him to the city and hope he doesn't

recognize that he's not going to Borrellas this time for the first time in 45 years. They're just going to take him to a new place. So that should be interesting. Is he the guy from the Islanders game where like Panda him and like all these people were coming? He was like, oh fuck. That was the day. Yeah, we had

450 people piling into the islander game after they beat the Bruins and he had to stay an extra three hours and make pizzas and my dad was like, look at this, this is unbelievable. The lines out the door. and Laredo's like, these motherfuckers. I'm going to fucking, I can't, I'm going to murder you all.

So yeah, that's the guy. Yeah, so thanks to Slice. I just wanted to thank Slice there, a big Barstall sports sponsor and partner. So if you're in town, 57th and 1st, 57th Street, First Avenue, come by. We'll be there all night tonight, Thursday. Come by, check it out. Borrelli's great spot. Good pizza, Laredo.

All right. Interview time. Here we go. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I liked a little more intimate last time. It was a little more one-on-one. We have to talk about that.

I know you've won a major championship since then, but I think the biggest news is that biggest news is that you took your conversation with Frankie and you did the thing. We did. We made it a thing. And I think, you know, I didn't have my best stuff this past week. Obviously, that sucked.

But, you know, we started something. And hopefully, I hopefully, frankly, hopefully we started something in the works, you know. I really hope we did because that's, you know, I had a lot of fun. I think it was fun for the people on the ferry. So hopefully that starts just something in the future, for at least some future sites, really.

100%, man. I mean, this is a trend. We said like, you guys got to be able to show your personality. And boy, did you show your personality. You looked like a million bucks on the ferry, just like we knew you would. it took the internet by storm and now everyone's going to be looking forward to round two of this i did wish you played a little bit better let's not let's let's be honest i got a lot of blaming

in my twitter mention saying that i ruined colin morocawa number one in the fedex he listens to frankie for the first time in his life and he misses the fucking cut but listen it's fine we're going to get better we'll just grow we will we will you know it's a it's a first right it's a first you're going to learn you're going to grow you're going to figure some things out and uh obviously you just need to play a little better golf. Have you got any feedback from other players on tour saying, I want to start doing this, loved what you did, any sort of that stuff? There's a few players that said, you know, that just looked at me and like, wow, like, looking really good today. And like, they kind of caught him by surprise when you walk to the locker room, you walk their dining.

But the amount of people, like the security guard that was watching our group that was really following speed, he came up to me because I went to go practice on Saturday morning. And he was like in awe. He loved it. There was fans out there that loved it. Um, so I heard a lot more from people around that watched it that saw it on their Instagram. Um, I went out to get tacos on Saturday night in the sky said he was just looking at me in a suit or in the coat and jacket and everything. And he was like, he like couldn't put words together because he was so freaked out. Um, so yeah, I think it definitely made waves amongst fans, which is pretty cool. I love it. I think it's, I think it's genius. I think you have to keep doing it.

I think, like, were you nervous at all? Were you, like, when you walk on at Fair, are you nervous that people are going to just be like, what are you, like, what are you doing, man? You know, a little bit. I think I was more nervous on how players would have reacted. And there's like some little confusion, some that loved it. But I think they realized that like every other sport does this, right? That's the basis of where this kind of started is that it's not like we did anything

crazy. We just did something very new to the sport of golf. And to see what other guys and other athletes do, you know, it kind of just brings us into another level. And hopefully it does because it is exciting. You know, it added five extra minutes for me to walk, you know, and for them to take pictures. Well, that's about it. And that's why it was so enjoyable because I was on the ferry. You can interact with other people, take a few pictures.

So it was fun in those like kind of 30 minutes leading up to the golf course. I love it. I hope you keep doing it. I think you started something. I think you and Frankie, your little intimate conversation. Again, I hope next time, you know,

if you win the tournament, then Frankie and everybody else won't get just like, you ruined it. You guys had to change everything. Yeah, I'll bring, I'll bring Frankie back. I'll revive him back after that poor play

from last week. Love it. We'll be fine, Frankie. Don't worry. I agree. So we had asked, where's the Claire jug right now?

How does it, you know, do you still wake up and just think like, oh my God, I'm the champion golfer of the year because we haven't spoken to you since you pulled that off. You know, I brought it to my parents' house. So I'm giving my parents about actually three weeks since I'm gone for three weeks. I'm giving three weeks to do whatever they want and to drink out of it and celebrate.

So I'm sure they're going to have a few drinks. I already know they were planning to do it right as I left. They didn't want to do it with me there for some reason. So let them enjoy it. Let my brother enjoy it. And I'll take it back after the tour championship. Was there any like cooler round of golf? I mean, I know the PGA last year, obviously you won, you hit the shot on 16.

But this with the fans, with Speeth, a duel, ROM was playing. You know, just where you're at in the world in terms of Royal St. George's and the history, you know, again, it's a couple of clowns that do a golf show that are talking to a guy that just won the Open Championship. You know, have you ever had a cooler kind of day or weekend than that? your life? No, not really. It was awesome to see so many fans out there to have people and have that many people that love the game and being my second time playing kind of links golf.

It's just everything I could have asked for. You know, it was a star-studded leaderboard. There was guys gunning down for me. Or, you know, Louie even started the day in the lead. And, you know, we had a little flip-flop on that par five. I think it was seven or six. So, you know, there was a lot going on. And it was just, it was everything I wanted.

You know, those are the moments you take in as a golfer and, you know, you embrace because that's what you want. You want to be coming down the stretch and the lead, fighting off a bunch of great players and playing great. And thankfully, I was hitting some good shots. And when we weren't, we were making putts. And that's what you kind of need in those moments is everything to be working. And thankfully, that was one of those kind of four days that. you know, we were able to put everything together. You had some heroic up and downs, man.

Like, it just looked like a couple times. You're like, oh, he's wavering a little bit. And you just got up and down from like a phone booth and made a 10 or 12 footer. And it was so gutsy. It was very, I mean, in those moments, are you anything different? Are you really like digging deep? Are you just saying trust the routine? Like, what?

You know, because that, in those moments, you see people kind of collapse or lose it a little bit a lot. you just didn't at all. Yeah, I don't think I ever got ahead myself. And I was just really focused on, you know, hitting each shot to the best of my building. And that's what it simply is. I mean, you know, I can't do anything about hitting it, blocking it right, blocking it or pulling it left or whatever into short-sighting myself.

But I just felt confident about my game. I felt like if I just kept giving myself chances, I'd make birdies. And I would just really force the issue upon everyone else to do something. and thankfully I just built enough of a cushion coming down the stretch so I can, you know, play a little safer, play smart shots, and then go from there. Colin, talk to me real quick. I know we don't have you for long today about the cinnamon toast crunch obsession you have. Yeah, so obviously, yeah, obviously I love cereal.

It's been stamped on my wedges. I've said it, I think since day one as I've been a professional. I think it's been on my wedges. So Taylor Made, who you guys are a partner with, We're doing a collaboration with Cinnamon Toast Crunch to build a cup to build some driver head covers, these Cinemogi head covers for the driver and putter. And it's going to be awesome because these little Cinemogy head covers, you're going to be able to eat out of them on the course, wherever, whenever you want. And it's going to be, I think it's just another fun aspect to add to golf, right? Something I love to do.

I mean, I love cereal. I'll literally eat it any time of the day. I talk about cereal like it's my main diet and sort of. in nutrition when it's probably not the best for me, but I love it. Wait, did you say you're going to be able to eat out of these? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're going to be able to eat out of the driver head cover, which I think is like the coolest thing.

Like you could, you know, snack out of it mid-course. I want to pour milk in it. I want to do the whole thing. I want to eat a bowl of cereal out of the thing. You think I could do that? Of course. You can eat anything out of anything. No, that's what the driver head cover is made.

That's what this head cover is made for is to be eaten out of. which I think is awesome. We're going to need these because Trent has to have cereal on the golf course while he's just like out of a match or something. We pan to Trent. He's sitting in the cart eating cinnamon toast crunch out of his driver. I'll do that without cameras. You've just made us great content.

It's a good size bowl. Yeah, I like it. Thing is sweet. Yeah, no, it's going to be awesome. I mean, it's something that, you know, we're having fun. And I think that's what this is about, this awesome collab with Cinnamon Toe Crunch and Taylor Made. Taylor Made did an awesome job kind of creating these head covers. And I think it's going to be really cool to have them in bag.

How much have you been into kind of customization with golf throughout your career? Because Taylor Made is obsessed with it now. And clearly, I think, kind of the whole market is. Have you always been a big customization guy? Yeah, you know, I love it because it creates a person. and it makes your set different than someone else's, right? So when you are able to identify your clubs versus someone else, it just adds a little more sense of pride.

So knowing that Tamer made help design and create these head covers, these Cinemogy head covers, is awesome because I know I'm going to be the first one to be using them. And knowing that no one else in the field is going to have them for this week. So it's going to be pretty cool. I think personalization is just adds that, you know, unique aspect of who we are as a person, not just golfers, but, you know, what we talked about wearing suits to the golf course, adding stamps to wedges, adding different, you know, head covers now, even potter covers to the bag that, you know, are more than just a head cover.

Like you can literally eat a bowl cereal out of. Just shows the personality of every player out there. You're becoming, you're becoming somebody, man. You got, you know, you got a couple major championships. You got your cinnamon toast crunch head covers. You're wearing suits. It's, I mean, that's great. That's what you want.

That's like that you're becoming a notice, an extremely noticeable figure in the world. Trendsetter. And it's crazy because you want to like, some people may want to think that that's like calculated, but at this point, it's proven that he's just going off what he enjoys and what he likes. Like he comes on a podcast. We talk about suits. He wears a suit. It becomes a trendsetter.

Now he likes cinnamon toast crunch. and now all of a sudden his head cover, you can eat out of it. It's a cinnamon toast head cover. So it's not calculated at all. You're just rolling with the punches and you're just being you, which I freaking love, man. Keep doing it. Yeah. Thank you, Jeff.

Yep, no problem. It's 615 in Arizona right now. I'm going to go get Cinnamon Toast crunch and eat that shit for breakfast. You can hear it in your voice. 100% right now. Yes. That is what I want to hear. All right, Colin.

I know we didn't get you for long. You're busy man. Good luck in the FedEx Cup playoffs. You were number one coming in. Obviously, had an awesome year. And we're going to look out for those for those epic covers. We got to get Trent one at least. Yep.

Yeah, we will. We will. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Colin. Thanks, Colin. The golf season, ladies and gentlemen, in full swing. It is summertime. It's August.

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Yeah, well, we'll just kind of let it roll. I mean, we'll just kind of let it roll. I mean, We, you know, we're Barstall Sports, not overly official, but we have the AIG Women's Open champion, Anna Norquist. You got the trophy right there. How cool is that thing? Yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool. It still really hasn't sunk in that I won. It's like I'm still living in a dream.

I keep texting my caddy. I'm like, is this happening? Do this happen? We send a picture back and forth. But, yeah, like being European and knowing the history, of the IAG women's open. It's a little dream from true and greatest victory on my career, hands down.

Amazing. Yeah, it's, I can't imagine what that feelings like. I mean, do you feel like, I mean, I know it's been four years, was it like a relief? Is it this weird combo of, like, relief and excitement? And I'm just curious, like, what that feeling is like when you wake up. I think it's mostly, I am grateful and I'm also very proud. just knowing how hard I worked and you do a lot of your work in the background like no one really

sees what you really put in other than a lot of your team or like my husband's been there kev he's been there with me like every single day basically since um since my last one and he's seen my ups and my downs and my caddy paul core mark he he's been with me for over two and a half years now and he also been the positive rock that i needed on the course when i got frustrated because all the hard work that I put in just didn't pay off. So yeah, it's a sense of relief, but it also is kind of the feeling of just being so happy or knowing that it's worth it, like all those hard works. And waiting for this for four years, it was definitely worth the wait.

And you just never know when it's going to happen. I'm just so excited and so happy that it's, it's just, you know. just happen at Kournesty. Is there any moment where you remember or thought during the week, like, okay, this could be it. This could be different. Anything in a practice round or in a Saturday round or what did it take until Sunday? Is there any moment, again, where you were kind of like, all right, this could be it, where we got something here? Well, I would say, like, because I played the Scottish Open the week before the,

I did women's open at Dunbarney and it was really blowing hard for good three rounds. And I played so well. I hit the ball so well. I guess you just really couldn't capitalize on it. So I was quite disappointed leaving there because I was like, you know what? Like I felt like I really played well. I finished 12. I was like, what do I really have to do?

So my caddy actually stays like, hey, keep positive. You're right there where you need to be. I had a good shout with my mental coach, Suzanne, back in Sweden, on the Monday, because I didn't want to go into Women's Open, feeling disappointed where it really should have been proud. So she helped me with my mindset a little bit, like looking at all the positives. So entering the British Open Week with a grateful heart and just knowing that things are heading in the right direction instead of just being disappointed and pay off the Scottish. So I think, I mean, it's just, I just played, I've enjoyed golf a lot more the last couple weeks and things are been coming together.

Karnusi is one of my favorite golf courses I fell in love with it when we play there back in 2011. I love Lingskolfs because there's something, I think it brings out a little bit more creativity and I'm a perfectionist. And you don't really have to be as perfect on Lings Golf. and you just have to play with the wind and a little bit. I think it's kind of a strength of mine. Like, I've had success in Lings courses as an amateur in years prior. So I think it was just a sense of calm going into the week and knowing that I probably have an advantage of a lot of girls

just having the experience and knowing a little bit more how to play it, have a Scottish husband and a Scottish caddy. So also feeling very comfortable knowing that they've been there before. and they know how to play that kind of golf. Yeah, I was curious if you do any preparation to get ready for Links Golf because, you know, people just, unless you live there, don't play it very often. You know, you're operating out of the States. You're, you know, from Sweden.

It's not like you really play true Links golf very often at all. So is there anything that you can do what's trying to do to prepare? Well, as an amateur, I used to have a really good punch. like that was kind of my my shots I think that's why I was successful over the years because I used to practice it a lot or we played more different courses now that I've been in the US for quite a few years I I kind of have to adapt to that kind of golf not doing as much bump and runs with like a nine iron eight iron like I did growing up and now it's more like 58 or 54 you have to fly it and I've also worked with my coaches over the years trying to hit the

ball higher to be able to stop it better on the green. So I think it's a fine line trying to adapt like if you play length golf like one or two times a year. I know how to hit a punch shot. I also when I hit it good, I don't have a lot of movement in my ball. So I feel like right now I probably don't use as many of those punches that I know how to hit because I know where my full shots are going to go. So I think that's also, if you're play links to golf a lot, I probably hit a lot more punch shots, but then now you kind of like, you have to adapt a little bit, maybe take an extra cloud, maybe hit a little bit higher than what people probably say is the right shot for certain certain holes, but it's definitely

a different kind of golf. I mean, you have to put like 10 yards outside the green. And I know if you never done that before, like it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a different, mentality. I mean, the 16th hole, for example, like Karnoosa is a beast. We're playing it a little bit into the wind, and I think it was playing 223 or something on the final day. And for me to get it on the top tier into the wind, you basically, I had to hit the three wood, and I have about probably a good 10 or 12 yards to carry on there. And if you hit anything left, it's going to kick down, and you're going to be 40 yards from the pen, and it's just sitting five yards off the left. So I try to play it short.

A good one would probably go five years on the green with a hybrid. But I'm also leaving myself a chance with par. I had quite a long cut there because kind of fatal, just a little bit into the wind. But I know I'm giving myself a good shot for par because I'd practice that shot like in the practice round. So it is a lot of strategy and then also putting yourself in position where you're not dead by like giving yourself into bunkers or putting yourself in a position where you can make up

and down. So I think knowing like strategy is like a strength of mine and my cat is pretty smart too. I think we definitely had an advantage kind of knowing how to play the course. So there were a million names in the mix. Are you, I'm always fascinated by this. Are you much of a scoreboard watcher? Were you trying to keep track of? how everyone's doing or do you kind of tunnel vision just focus on your own game? Yeah, so I probably got in the habit of trying to watch the score burst a little bit too much. But I think Ling's golf kind of brings out the part where it's like you have the challenge right in front of you, the wind's blowing so hard or like the bunker.

It kind of catches your attention where you can't really like start thinking about score because then a bunker or somebody's going to eat you up. So I think I probably watch scoreboard less when I play Lings golf. So it might be something that I should consider doing more often. That's interesting. What was the emotion? Hey, Trent, would you actually break 100 on a link score if you think?

Oh, would I break 100 on a links course? Yes. Yeah, I think I would. I'm more comfortable. I haven't played a ton of links golf, but I like putting from off the green. That's a big part of my game because my wedges aren't great. So I think if I played more

Lynx golf, I would I think I could, yes. My answer is yes. How many shots would you think it would take you to get out of the bunker at the road hole at St. Anders? Man, I think I would die in there. I think I would just, I'd never get out of there. It gives you enough nightmares, right?

Right. Do you have any advice for me to get out of a bunker? I get a lot of advice, but a lot of it I don't listen to because it's just people on the internet, but you are a person that I would listen to on how to get out of a bunker. Any advice, I'll take it. Yeah, well, we can have a lesson there one day. Okay, I'm in because I need it.

Trent, I think it's a, I think Link's golf for you would be a blessing and a curse. Like I think you're going to get a lot of run. Like you said, you could put from almost anywhere. You can land balls short, which you do a good amount and have them skip onto the green. But I don't, I don't think, like, I don't know that you can get out of those bunkers, man. I think you might be in there for fucking ever. I think you'd be in a catty for him. You seem to know his game really well.

Everybody knows my game, and it's not a great game. It's been a, it's taken a village, you know, to try to get Trent to break in 100, which he did, 95. Yeah. But I do think we're, so we're going to Band and Dunes in a few weeks, which plays very lynxy, you know. Well, it's amazing. And I, none of the other guys have been there. I've been lucky enough to be there, and it plays, I've done Scotland as well.

so it plays very lynxy, so we will get to see. But I think, Trent, I think your game's going to translate well at a link's course. I hope so. But you're right. I just have to avoid bunkers. And that's been a tall task for me so far. But there's always hope. Maybe you should consider one of those bunker clubs that has like a big show on it.

Anything. I'll do anything. Some people say just like, just take it out of the bunker. They're sick of watching me. They're like, we don't have to be in there for eight strokes. just get out of there. But it's still something I'm trying to conquer. I thought I had it down for a while there and then I just, I don't.

But we'll see. We'll see what happens at Bandon. I think there's hope for you. I appreciate that. Tren, have you thought about just deeming the ball unplayable when it's in a bunker and just going backwards? Yes. And I've gotten a lot of feedback of people telling me to do that.

But then there is the part of me where I want to figure it out. I'm a human being. I have arms and I have legs and I have a brain and I feel like I should be able to get out of a bunker at some point thus far and I have been unsuccessful but I don't want to deem it unplayable and then go backwards because then that's a whole thing I want to be able to figure it out myself

Perfect I think you have a great strategy or a good game plan Thank you. The execution is the tough part Yeah that's right that's usually been the issue So Anna talks to me about after you win You know I obviously got a bunch of media and eventually I imagine you get to celebrate, like what does the whole evening and night look like

after you win the British Open? Yeah, so I think we finished our round, around just after 6 o'clock. And I didn't get out of the golf course until probably 8.45 that night. There's quite a few media, and they have it very set up. They have a coordinator that kind of helps you getting everything done. but it's just so many emotions and I had quite a few friends and family there from Scotland though

just kept from Scotland so I was just trying to catch a moment take a picture with them and you're kind of being pulled in a few different positions or in different places and you're trying to soak it all in you're trying to realize it actually happened but it's just I mean

it's an overwhelming feeling but just also I think I'm still on adrenaline a couple days after I haven't slept many hours but I was able to go to my sister-in-laws she lives 10 months from Canusty and due to COVID protocols

I wasn't allowed to stay with her for the week so we had a good dinner there my caddy kept filling the trophy up with champagne or beers or whatever they were drinking out of it and I had to get up at just before four and drive to the airport because I was catching my flight back to the US at 8 o'clock in the morning. And I don't think my mind was fully functioning because I didn't realize until I got to London,

London security that I forgot my computer insecurity in Edinburgh. So I had a little bit of a nightmare there thinking, what if I lost it? But it's sorted. I don't have it yet, but it's in, it's in great. great possession so I know where it is. So, but I had two trophies back, and I think I had about 100 pin flags with me. They offered to ship it, but I said I wanted to carry it. So I had this big case that was carrying around all over Europe on the way back.

But, yeah, it's going to take me a little bit to soak it all in. I had a lesson yesterday with my coach, Andy Patna, here in Scottsdale. and yeah it's a little hard to focus I started realizing my forearms actually pretty pretty tired from hitting off that tough turf so you really don't really feel things until you do different things

so it's been a great couple days and I'm just very proud I had my whole team surprised me at the gym here Motion Lab and Scott still yesterday by showing up and surprising me so that was really amazing and I'm just so grateful to have a lot of great people around me here.

That's so awesome. Do you notice, do you like your feet and calves hurt after walking links courses? Yeah, I've been on the road for the last 10 weeks now, and I actually started to feel it last week. I'm like, a couple more days. You can do it. You can focus. But yeah, the feet are hurting.

and now I think the adrenaline is kind of helping be pushed through and not feel so much. But yeah, my body is actually a little beat up. I mean, I'm 34 years old now, and I've done this for a while. But it doesn't get easier with age, so I guess I'm just getting a little bit old. Talk to me about that trophy. Is that thing easy to drink out of, or how's that at work? Yeah, I got a new little puppy, Max, so he was enjoying it. It works for him.

It works for us. My caddy, I think, had probably a cup full of champagne before you even left the golf course on Sunday. So, yeah, we've had, since it's been in my possession, it's been water in it, it's been rosé wine, it's been champagne, it's been beers. I'm not a big drinker, maybe some Swedish cider, but I have good friends with a couple companies there in the U.S., so they're going to send me some saline. Celebratory drinks this week so I can enjoy it with some friends. That thing looks like it was built to drink out of it. It looks like a chalice. Yeah, I mean, my friends at MGM Resorts have you had offered a victory trip to Vegas.

So they want me to bring the trophy and tell them when we're coming. And they're going to put on a good celebratory, like, dinner and trip for us. I actually run into Joel Damon in Vegas for its bachelor trip. I think it was the weekend before he won. So that was probably his good karma. So I know they put on a really nice integration for him. So I guess I have that to look forward to after Solon Cup. Awesome.

Yeah, I know before he won, he said he was going to reset by going to Vegas for like four days. and then all of a sudden he, you know, four days after his trip, he won him a PJ tour for the first time. So it might be a little secret right there. I know he gave you guys a good match. So maybe we need to get a good match against your boys going. I mean, I need to see that the bunker shots there by Trent. And I kind of want to see him take that drop out of the bunker

and then actually hit it over the bunker. I'm not sure of getting back in it. Right, yeah, I'll drop it behind and then I'll put it right back in there and I'll just walk off the course. Perfect. I got to tell you, Trent, that would be very funny. If you're, I'm going to take it unplayable, you just chunk it right back in there. We'll set up a match.

We're undefeated against professional golfers. Yeah, I'm sure Silver Lee, Ferens Gostler, will be happy to host you. They've had quite a bit of success lately, so I'm just trying to keep up with the rest of the gang out there. Yeah, we're actually, we're winless against women. We lost to a scramble team of women, but I think we are 4-0 against men. So it might be our kryptonite. Women might be our kryptonite.

We might just not be able to, you know, find victory. We have to set that up. For sure. Well, we very much appreciate it. Oh, we got Solheim Cup, obviously. Oh, who's the puppy? Look at this guy. We got a puppy on the screen.

Oh, here comes my little dog. my kev he he tried to get me for four days to get a puppy so i finally gave in he's been begging for one so here's a little max max what's up i finally got to meet him yesterday um hi max you just met max yesterday yeah because i've been on the road for a good 10 weeks so i finally he was with our friends um the last 10 days so he's had yeah he had some friends to play with but he's just a cute He's a little puppy, and so I'll have my pants full this week, but he's just, he's just adorable. He's a little English cream retriever. Oh, that dog is so cute.

Look at Max. He is adorable. And I swear I was water when he was drinking out of the trophy. A few people have faced their concerns, but I'm sure they did. He enjoyed the water. That's fantastic. Look at Max. That's great.

God, he's adorable. How old is he? He is 10 weeks. Young. Ten weeks. Yeah. How big is he? get?

Hopefully under 75 pounds so we can travel with him. We'll see. I mean, I'm sure he'll be, the Solen Cup girl's been begging me to have him as a little mascot next week, but I think Lilal Max is going to stay home. A lot of our friends have been begging to doggis hit him. So I'm sure he'll be in good hands sharing his own. So yeah, Solheim Cup's coming up.

You know, you guys will be the defending champs. you'll be on foreign soil. You have qualified. Look at Max. He's just all over the screen. He lost it. I've muted you guys. How are we feeling about Soap Cup?

How pumped are you to officially be on the team? I'm feeling pretty good. I mean, I think we have a great team. We'll definitely be underdogs compared to the U.S. team, I think. And a little concerned that the U.S. border is so close for the European. So none of our family will become over. and not of the European fans. So I'm trying to recruit a lot of my friends to go and wear the colors,

but they're a little bit hesitant to wearing the blue and yellow in public. So I think, I mean, it's going to be a great event. Apparently it's going to be unlimited fans. So it's just an atmosphere you can't describe, but I'm liking our picks. I'm liking our team. And there's just nothing like it. getting them a good match and hopefully beating them on US soil. It's so much fun to watch.

It is so fun to watch. The crowd is just the energy, the excitement. I can't believe it's coming up this quickly. It feels like it snuck up on us. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe I'm doing my seventh one. It makes me feel really old. It's something I dream up and something keeps pushing me year after year.

And I'm just very proud to be part of the team and hope I can be a good, good influence on the other girls and a good player for the team well good luck good i mean you know we're american so don't we don't want you have too much luck but have like some amount of luck a little bit of luck a lot of fun and all that good stuff uh congratulations on the on the victory um tell max again that we say hello please and um and we'll try to set up a match and maybe get Trent out of bunkers. Yeah. It's all along.

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James, what's up, man? What's going on? Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. This is the coolest one so far, I got to say. What else have you done? You've been doing anything that comes your way? You've been selective?

Pretty much. It comes my way. It's been a crazy week, but all the local people kind of been there supporting me my whole life, you know, before this week. wanted to get to. So it's, uh, it's been a long, uh, media run, but, uh, enjoying it while it last year. Well, yeah, you're a Michigan guy. Obviously, you're, uh, you're a Michigan state. You're Spartan. You grew up in Canton, Michigan, which is, I believe, a suburb of like Detroit. Is that right?

Yep. Yep. Yep. About 25 minutes outside. So you're a Michigan guy through and through. Um, have you been like, I think from what I've seen, I was looking through your Instagram a little bit. You've been like a Spartan fan since you were a kid, right? No, so I was actually a Michigan Wolverine. Wow. Yeah. What a whole move then. Yeah, season ticket holders to the big house and everything.

And, you know, I hate to say it, but had to switch over. It just wasn't all I thought it would be when I visited. And it's kind of crazy. My brother actually played golf at Michigan State as well, so I had a little in on the team there and love the program. So I ended up being a spart. It hit a lot of the first visit. No, fun fact, we went there when Michigan played state at state, my first visit.

We were actually rooting for Michigan. We were sitting there high-fiving me and my buddy in the stands of Michigan scored, but it changed fast. That's wild. What made you a Michigan guy? Is it like family lineage? Like, is you, like, destroying your dad's dreams? Is he played on the football team or something like that?

What was it? No, so my dad's, I wouldn't call him a Walmart Wolverine, but it just, family loved uh yeah family loved michigan my mom went to you of m dearborn but my dad was uh in the army and went to eastern michigan so uh just uh he grew up kind of in yipsy so he was around that area and uh love michigan and um yeah he had uh his he said if you're playing football you'd be wolverine no doubt but uh golf will let you go where you want that's funny man wow yeah good for you i guess being like no this is just this is just where i want to go i uh yeah i think I think, I looked too, I saw like your picture of just a classic photo of you signing, sign in papers with like the Spartan hat.

And I was like, you know, it's hard to, it's kind of hard to say no. The Spartan is a, is, I think is about as good as it gets for college logos, mascots, brand, everything. Yeah, it's definitely, it's a cool logo. And, you know, like I said, didn't expect to be a Spartan. So it ended up being a great decision, great campus. I know you guys come over to Michigan quite a bit, so I don't know if you stop by East Lansing, but it's a great city.

We do a good amount just in Barcelona. We're big in Michigan. I feel like people love Barcelona, Michigan, and the Midwest that just typically, what are your guys, I'm curious, what are your guys facilities like? Because we've been to golf facilities. Like, we've been to Minnesota.

Me and Frankie went to Minnesota, and they had just built like a new short game area, and it was sick. I know ASU, which is right down the street. from where I'm at. Their facilities are off the charts. What's like the Spartan golf facilities like? Yeah, we're pretty comparable to Minnesota. We just built a new short game area this year. So I'll get one year with that before I hit the road. But indoor facility top notch, indoor chipping putting green, track men room, video room. We got all that. We got some nice donor support of Michigan State. So we definitely kind of had the facility to beat for the big time for a while. Illinois is up there with us, I'd say. So it's definitely top notch. what do you guys do like December through February, you know, because if you're going up against, like I said,

ASU or Florida or Texas where they just got perfect weather. You guys traveling a lot? Are you kind of just relying on your trackman's inside? Like how do you guys compete? So it's a good mix. I mean, obviously school getting out early December. I kind of ship it down to Florida, Vero Beach. I see my instructor for a little bit.

So I'll hang out there over the break. and then head back. Yeah, we've got to deal with the winter. You're inside, but we'll take a couple of team trips. We go to San Francisco every year and get to play some sweet places, Olympic club and all that. So we take a lot of weekend trips, Naples, wherever someone's willing to host us, we'll be there for a weekend.

So it's not a bad lifestyle, even though we're up north. Definitely, it was worse in high school because you've got to stay here all the time, but now being a division one school, you get the gig that, you normally wouldn't have. So enjoying it while it lasts and while it's on the university. Are you ready for like when you roll into these courses now and they host you that people are going to be like, holy fuck, there's the USA. You know what?

I'm still not used to it. Yesterday I played in Kurt Gibson's golf outing and he came up to me and shook my hand. He's like, dude, it's an honor to meet you. I'm like, dude, you're a tiger's legend. You know, it's like, there's so many people that I've met that are just so much higher than me in life. And they're like, dude, it's an honor. Can I get a photo or your autograph? I'm like, yeah, sure, but I'd really have your autograph. So it's been, it's been wild.

Speaking of the Tigers, I saw you, I saw you throw out the first pitch of the Tigers game. How was that? Oh, man. It was brutal. It was more nerve-wracking than the opening T-shot of the finals of the USAM. I mean, I played baseball in middle school, but it was like I hadn't thrown baseball in a long time. So me and my dad were out in the halfway getting ready to go. And like out for the pitchers mound and everything. And then got there, they're like, you can't even step on the rubber. So I was like, all I had, I had like 10 buddies there. And they were sitting behind home plate with some beers and their hands saying throw it in the dirt.

So it was just trying not to sail it in the dirt. It almost threw it square over his head. But it had some heat on it, so not too bad. Yeah, I was going to say, that's the way to do it. You went high. It was good. You don't want to put it in the dirt. That's the last thing you would do.

I thought it was good. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they had the tallest guy in the team out there. He looked like he was about 7-4, so it was... Yeah, that seems to be a common thing where everyone thinks they're going to go out on the rubber. They practice, like, they want to get their feet dirty and get some grip, and then you go out there, and they're like, no, you've got to get off this, like, slippery part of the mound. And, like, that's where a lot of the mistakes happen.

Like, all these balls start sailing. They start flying out of hands. Yeah, you just overthink it while you're out there. I mean, you're just like, they got the national anthem. You're out there with the players. You got your hat, you know. kind of under your chest and you're sitting there like getting amped up for a baseball game. And then they're like, all right, we're calling you the mound.

They give you a big introduction and everybody's clapping. And you're like, only thing you're thinking that whole time is just like, don't throw in the dirt, don't throw them the dirt. And it never comes out right from the people I've talked to have done it. They're like, yeah, I mess that up every time. So it's happy he caught it. That's all I can say. Yeah, it's a tough spot.

It's almost like we talk about the best man speech and like a wedding a lot about how everybody else does all the work. and the whole thing's about everyone else, and then all of a sudden for 10 minutes, it's just on you and you own the whole room. So it's a tough situation. As long as you don't fuck it up pretty badly, like 50 cent types of,

then you're fine. Yeah, exactly. No, my buddies did a good job. They were sending me all the worst first pitches, like in history, it's like before. And I check this out, James,

you got to see this. And, yeah, it was brutal. But, no, it was a fun. It was.

Yeah, It was something to forget. And hopefully I'm ready to do it again if it happens next time. But we'll see. You don't really expect that, like I said. It's funny. You go from, like, in one week, you go from, you're just James Pryant. Like, you know, you roll out people like, this guy plays like D1 golf.

Like, wow, yeah, it's sick. It must be able to all of a sudden. Like, I mean, Jack Nichols considers his U.S. amortes, like, major championship. Wait, you're just like a major winner rolling in. You won the, basically the second biggest thing that could possibly be won in the United States of America for golf. But that is as cool as it gets. Yeah, it's definitely been something that I've, it's, it's been hard to realize how big it's

been, I mean, like I said, it's just kind of trying to stay in the moment. But the other night I went out with some buddies and like walking around East Lansing, people are like, oh my God, do that guy, can I get a photo? Like college kids, I'm like, dude, I'm a golfer. Like, you never see it. I'm like, yeah, if I was a football, for sure, but dude, I just play golf. So it's, they put up some like billboards on the side of the high. highway too so i'm getting some snapchats from people like dude i just saw you on the side of the highway i'm

like no so it's uh it's been pretty cool this week yeah i love to pick afterwards you just carried your bag with the trophy just like oh five seconds later you're just james again like oh yeah i got to just get my shit out of here i guess yeah well part of it too is my caddy just left the clubs on the putting green so i'm like dude someone's gonna steal something out of there i mean someone took my alignment stick cover actually the weirdest thing to take but i I was looking at my clubs. I'm like, huh, missing that the next day. But, no, especially the putter.

That thing's been making a lot of national news. I don't know if you guys saw any of that. But, yeah, a lot of people. That's the first thing when I've been playing with people this week. They're like, dude, I got to see your putter. So it's been weird. Being kind of protective of the sticks, hoping they don't vanish on me all of a sudden. Give me the, give us, like, the details on the putter and how, like, are you, do you sleep with it?

Are you, like, nervous now that somebody's going to steal that thing? No, I. I mean, based on the price of it, it would be pretty easy to replace. But, you know, it's a special thing now. But, yeah, just we don't know how long ago it was, but my dad just scooped it up from a local golf store. It was like 60 bucks on the sales rack and, like, rolled with it for two weeks. And then he was like, no, it's not for me. He's a pretty cheap guy when it comes to golf clubs, too.

And he's like, I was checking an hour. I was in like six or seventh grade. And I was like, oh, something's pretty nice. And I had some guy draw like a yellow line on it, too. I thought it was a cool color at the time. So it's like a really weird looking thing and just rolled with it for a while, made some like big putts with the local junior tournaments and switched on and off out of it when I went through high school and college.

And I was getting a little bit of a putting slump. I've been putting with the Toulon for like two years. And I was middle of the summer. I was like, hey, I was looking in the base. This thing looks pretty cool. We should try it. And it's like 32 inches or something. And it's like extremely short and it's got some wear and tear to it.

So I was like, you know what? I got some good memories with this thing. And first round with it was like four or five under and took it out to the USM qualifier and just rolled lights out with it. And kind of just kept it going from there. Had a 62 at a little at the southern end with it. So I'm like, man, this thing's got some magic in it still. And yeah, it was crazy to see that thing on national TV this week.

That was a big story with everyone having. the milled scotties and all that stuff and i'm just some kid out here with this thing that looks like it should be in kind of a dumpster or something like that so it's uh it's my baby though yeah it's special to me it's like the jim furek i mean i remember when he like on the way to one tournament bought a putter at like a local shop for 35 bucks or something and then won the tournament that week so it's like putting's just such a such a feel thing such a personal thing and yeah i mean that thing I hope you keep rolling with that. I hope you rock that thing as long as humanly possible.

Joel Damon, too, like confidence over the club. Joel's got like that $40 five wood or whatever that he just can't, like he broke one time that he has to get back as catty bought from, I think, Walmart or something like that to replace it. So it's awesome when you get it rolling. And it is a cool story having that club. Yeah, it's just weird seeing that, you know, the bag, everything's all nice.

You got the brand new tireless gear. I just got some new irons in the bag. And now I still, still rocking the part of all. That thing's not changing for a while. When did you think that, like, clubs might be stolen? Like, you know, the clubs are sitting by the putting green. Like, why did that, like, come into your brain?

Well, you know, being a public course golfer, you kind of always have it in the back of your head. Like, I got some nice sticks. Someone might take these things. I've had, like, I've walked out before to, like, guys, like, just, like, taking clubs out of my bag, like, checking them out, like, who even are, you kind of thing. And so I'm like, yeah, especially now people recognize kind of the name on the bag

when I go to, you know, play wherever at the home course. So I'm like, yeah, if I'm not around, I got to keep these things in the trunk. So it's been a little thought in the back of my head. Obviously, I'm going to Oakland later today. And I know out there they're not going to get taken or anything. But being out at my local public courses, I'm a little more on edge. Happened to Rory recently. That guy ran up on Rory's back.

It's true. Exactly. It can happen to anybody. Yeah, that was awesome, though. I can't believe. They thought that was a joke. And the guy just stopped showing grabbing his stuff. It was unbelievable.

He took a couple of practice swings on the T-box. I know. That's amazing. I get props to Rory for, like, just sitting there. Like, what is this guy doing? Like, he didn't freak out or anything. They were more puzzled. It was hilarious.

Everyone was way too relaxed up on that T-box. Yeah. What was your upbringing when it comes to golf? Like, it sounds like pretty similar to every, like, common golfer, right? Like, public golf, just going out there with buddies. Like, how'd you get into the game? Yeah. So my dad's, like, a big-time golfer.

and just go out there on the range with him when I was like four years old. And eventually my mom would just take me out to the course, watched me practice from when I was like five through like 10 or so until she was, I was old enough for like, all right, we could drop you off. I had a group of buddies. There was like 12 of us or so that would play. And I was the youngest one there by a couple years,

having my brother, a couple other guys went and played Division I golf out of our group. So it's like a local public course. But to us, it was like the coolest thing. ever. There's 54 holes we could play and just jump around. So there was a lot of betting and stuff like that going on at the time. And it was cool. Yeah, it was a pretty sweet childhood to just be able to get dropped off at the course and just hang out there all day while your parents did their thing and then just scooped you up at night. Totally. Yeah. Did you party have the like,

I'm going to beat these country club kids mentality? When I was super young, yeah. I mean, that was kind of like the thing. It's like, you know, we don't belong there. But, you know, it's something over the years now. It kind of shifted to once I started playing the national tournaments. I wanted to beat the Southern guys. That's what it turned into because, you know, being from, being from the North and golf, it doesn't go hand in hand with the limited season. So it's like whenever I saw Southern do, it'd be like, man, that guys, you know, obviously there were a lot of guys that were really good and still are really good, obviously, from the South. And for me, it's like, kind of want to prove myself being from Michigan. So that's been the main mentality my whole life pretty much. Yeah, definitely.

I mean, somebody sees, right, like Michigan's not necessarily a golf hotbed whereas compared to some other sports. So you got a little chip on your show. I love how in sports, man, everyone's always trying to find a way to have like a chip on their shoulder and be like, oh, yeah, I don't belong now. I'm from like Michigan. And I'm playing against these southern fuckers. And I'm going to bring it for, I'm going to represent like Michigan. I love that in sports. Have you ever done, you ever been to Forest Dune's? Yeah, we used to take a team trip up there every year. That's one of my favorites in Michigan. That place is awesome.

Yeah. It's so good. Yeah, that place is so sweet in the middle of nowhere, too. So it makes it that much better. Did they have the reversible, the loop when you've been there? Oh, yeah. I mean, I played it kind of right when it opened. I don't know how it is now, but it's like, it was like concrete out there.

Like you couldn't even hold the green almost. It was like the hardest place ever for a minute. But that place is so cool. That's a unique design. Yeah, we were just up there like a month ago. And we didn't know shit about like Michigan golf and, you know, like we'd heard good stuff, done some research, seeing pictures, you follow certain accounts, whatever. But that part of the country, like that Trevor City area, going to Forest Dunes, we played Bailey Farms. It is awesome up there.

It's like you said, it's like in the middle of nowhere, but a sneaky, gorgeous, you know, pure Michigan, air quotes, pure Michigan part of the country, that's got some really good golf. Oh, yeah, absolutely. West side of the state, too, if you can just go along there. I mean, there are so many good places. I don't know. Arcadia and all that stuff, Crystal Downs and all those sweet places. There's a lot going on up there. Michigan's definitely overlooked a little bit by the people out of state as far as the courses.

And I think it might be number three or four on the largest number of courses in the state in the United States or something like that. But there's a lot going on while the season's happening. So the amateur. Oakmont, where does Oakmont stack up for you in terms of, like, most difficult golf you've played? I mean, I would probably actually put it at number one. It was before the rain, I played it in the first round of stroke play for the qualifier, and they still didn't have it as firm as possible. I remember talking to the superintendent during the practice round.

They said they were sitting there, like, standing on the green and bouncing the ball off the green and catching it like a bouncy ball, like on Wednesday before. the USGA came out. They're like, no, no, no, you can't do this to these guys. Like, this isn't the U.S. Sophie. They're like, we got to move some AMs around. So they had it a little softer than it usually is. But still, I shot, like, I shot three over in perfect conditions.

And I walked off the course and I was telling my buddy who's warming up. I'm like, dude, that felt like a 65 today. Like, it was, it was that hard. And then the rain changed it. I mean, the first day, there was only one guy who broke par and three over was 16th place on that course. So it was like, yeah, for three over part in a major championship, you know, you're like, you know, this is not the best feeling, but looking at the leaderboard, it made it feel a little bit better. But the rain definitely changed it up, made it more of a

driving contest and you could get at pins, but still it, that place has some teeth. Man, it's, it was fun watching. I tuned in for the whole back nine. And it's like, you're just never safe on that golf course. Like you guys, you know, you're striped, but you're both playing really well, obviously. But it's like even when you'd hit a sick chip, you know, they do that low angle of the put. And it looks like, like you're aiming like you have like a, you know, a five footer or something that would be like you're aiming like a foot outside left. It's like, oh my God.

Yeah, that's what I was telling some two. I'm like I was in it to like 20 feet all day. The first time I go, I didn't have a put that broke less than like four feet outside of the cup. It's like I got a 20 footer, but that thing is going sideways. Like just touch it. I hope you don't three putt. That was kind of the mentality. I hate to say it for a while.

It's like, don't three put this one. Don't three put this one. So it definitely humbled you. But yeah, that place is, it's scary. There's greens that run away from you, which is a weird thing. Usually country clubs. It's don't go over the back of the green instead out there. There's a lot of greens.

You're like, well, if I hit it over, it's not a big deal. I'm chipping uphill. So it was a crazy place. And definitely happy I don't play out there every day because it beats your brains in, but it's still an awesome, awesome facility and place to play at. Three down, a nine to play. What was your mindset? Was there like a pep talk?

Was there, you know, any kind of light switch? Or what was going through your brain there? Yeah, I mean, I walked off the ninth green. And in that way, you get so caught up playing the other dude, you don't really think about where you're at in the day. And I was doing like the math in my head. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like six over par. That's what I said to myself.

I'm like, this is not how I play golf. So I'm like, I set a goal. I'm like, I'm going to go 400 on the back nine. that's kind of what I told myself. I'm like, you know, if he still ends up, you know, outplaying me on the back nine, hats off to him. But the goal was to get the four under. I ended up getting at the three under, so not too bad.

It was a really good battle back. But, yeah, I mean, it just felt like before that there was a lot of bad swings in my system. So I was like, all right, let's just focus on what you're good at, get back to the basics. And some miracles happened there in the back nine, to say the least. Did part of you think at that point, you know, like you said, You say you're doing the math. I'm due. Like, I don't play a full, like, I don't play 18 or 36 holes like this point.

Like, I'm just, I'm due. I'm definitely going to turn it around. I always do. Yeah, that was kind of the mentality because just playing in big time golf, we play like a super hard. Our courses, a lot have that Oakmont feel where they just beat you up. And it's not, we don't go to places too often where you go out and shoot 63 a few rounds in a row.

It's more like if you shot 71 that day, it's a pretty good round. So I'm like, you know what? I'm used to being quite a bit over par and bringing it back. So I'm like, let's just grind this one out. And that was the mentality on the back night. I'm due for some good stuff to happen. What a pot you made on 17 with that, you know, really fancy putter that you've got. Because what was that 20 feet or so, that 15, 20 feet?

Yeah, it was 20 feet. I just remember my candy coming up to me, who was actually our associate head coach. So it was cool having coach on the bag. But I just remember him walking up to me. He's like, you got him. I'm like, yeah, I got this. He didn't even bother looking at it. And just hitting it, center cup, and I'm like, oh, my God.

But really the mentality was like, this isn't over. I thought he was going to make his put regardless. So I was just sitting there fully prepared for going to 18 because I was like, you know, what, if I'm so caught up on, you know, that was it that if I played 18, you know, there'd be a lot of mental breakdowns on that hole. it was when he missed it it was like I can't believe it you know and uh it was a crazy moment having all my buddies out there jumping around and going nuts but uh it was just a lot of disbelief in that moment so now i mean you've got um major championships next year lined up as long as you

remain an amateur so is that the plan is basically you know finish out um golf and then you know go through the major championships next summer yeah so i mean uh u s open year a lot of play as a professional. So the opens later in the year. And that one at St. Andrews is, it's going to be a tough one to pass up on. We still haven't thought too deep into the future, but from the,

I mean, the last two U.S. AM champs actually passed up on it. So it's probably going to be a 50-50 decision just as far as, you know, hopefully getting some sponsors exemptions and getting some points for hopefully earning the tour cards. So it's definitely, it's going to be one of the hardest decisions of my life to say the least.

I've never, never my wildest dreams thought I had to make a decision on if I want to play a major championship or not. That's not used to. It's usually what am I doing on Saturday night? Am I going out or staying in? That's usually the hardest decision of a week. So it's changed a little bit. That's crazy. That's such a weird, unique spot to be in where it's like if it's at almost any other course,

probably like, yeah, I'm going to, obviously you turn pro, you're playing the S Open, like, you know, maybe make some good cash. I can keep rolling, get my card, like I'm off. I'm into my professional life. But you've got this fucking tournament looming later. Yeah. Open championship at the old course at St. Andrews, you've got a T-time. And you would be saying, no, I'm not going to take.

I'm not going to play in that tournament. Yeah, it's just such a hard thought. Yeah. I know the day I have to make that decision. I'm not going to sleep one bit that night. Especially, we actually took a team trip out there two years ago and play the old course. So I'm like, already walking out there, you know, not in an open setting. It was like the coolest experience on planet Earth.

So I know what it's like and what the future might have if I do play there. It's going to be a tough one to want to pass up on. But it's, like I said, I'm not going to be getting too much sleep when that decision comes. We'll see. Riggs is putting the screws to you there and you gave them very kind of PR answer. That was well done. I'm trying, you know, my goal this week I keep telling people is like,

don't stick your foot in your mouth. Like don't say anything too. I'm so far, so good, fingers crossed. I have no promises. I'm sure I'll say something stupid eventually. But right now we're doing good at on the PR answers.

It's just about surviving. Surviving advance. Whenever you're back, whenever you're just thrown into the public eye like this, just get through it. and then you're on the other side. Right. And you're just James.

Let your putter take all the headlines. You don't want any of them. You don't want any of them. Yeah, absolutely. Well, as long as they're positive, I'll take them. But yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure eventually things happen, but we'll see. I'm just trying to set the table so folks realize how difficult of a decision.

It is a difficult thing. And he clearly does 50-50. He doesn't know. 50-50. And then Barstle athlete. So I've got to ask you what it's been like. for you on the barstle athlete side because i don't even know what a barstle athlete really means and i'm like we've been signing people to be barcel athlete so i'm curious from your side

what what has it been like to be a parcel athlete i would be honestly like i applied for it and i know a million people did so i was just sitting there i'm like you know i'm not going going to get this thing or whatever and uh i remember waking up one day i checked my phone at like 5.30 in the morning. I'm like, I got a billion notifications. I see Barstall athletes, like, commented on or like sent you something. I'm like, what is this? I'm like, no way. So that was, that was pretty cool. And I was getting a shout out from you on Twitter and stuff was really cool during the USAM. So I'm like, whoa, I, to be honest, you fully haven't even checked into what you get and what the perks are of it. But, you know, getting to be on this podcast is

already a perk and off. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I was talking to my buddy. Cog on the Kicker at State and he's a barstall athlete. He's like, dude, you haven't even checked out the website and all this stuff? I'm like, no, dude, I just saw the email yesterday, actually. So it's for the publicity thing, too, just saying, you know, I'm a barstall athlete. I remember going out with my buddies a couple weeks ago when I got like the acceptance email. We were at the bar and they're like, just going up to random chicks. Like, hey, he's a barstall athlete.

You should check it out. That was the funniest thing. Yeah. So, honestly, that's just the publicity part's been the funniest, the coolest part of it. Yeah, I haven't checked out the merch or anything yet, but we'll have to look into that. Well, what you don't know is when you become pro, you're now dawned in stools and stars, barstool high. We've agreed to a completely branded barstool sports bag. So we've got you.

We've got you. I love it. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, my buddies were asking me, because they're like, what do you do? like just the Saturdays are for the boys flag. I'm like, I don't know. I honestly couldn't play.

So, yeah, that'd be sweet. The best part is we don't know. Like, we have no idea. Yeah, I think it's just like, we just keep sending you care packages of just like basic, like just merchandise and like you're just on our team now. Like, you're a part of the crew. Like, you're just a part of this crew now. I love that.

It's as simple as that. I love it. That's awesome. Yeah, I think the way I understand it too is we, that's right. Like we're basically, we were going through. we were signing as many people as we could and then send it out merch and then we're kind of going like case by case

and just figuring it out like if we got some people that are big stars maybe a US amateur champ it's like ooh maybe we actually like work some deals with this guy and figure it out but it would be funny if it was like the South Park Human Centipad episode where like you don't know

what you signed up for it turns out you signed your whole life away you have to get like a Barstool logo tattooed on your forehead when you turn pro like you just don't. You just never know what you're going to get. Yeah, we were talking about that, me and my brother, because I'm not a big reader and stuff like that too. That is

funny. That episode, we're like, dude, you didn't read the contract? Like, yeah, no, I read the contract. I'm like, I just sent an email back with my info and I'm like, yeah, sure, sign me up. So, yeah, my old me, I don't know. That is one of the most fucked up episodes of TV, but if people haven't seen it, it is laugh

out loud funny when you, oh man. But that's hilarious. That is very cool. It's awesome. that a barcel athlete won the U.S. Amateur. You seem like the best dude ever. So, yeah, man, congratulations. What, I mean, that's just you walk around, you enter any golf course, any club, any golf store for the rest of your life.

People are like, that's a U.S. Amateur champ that just wanted it. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, like I said, just going to places people recognize you. I played Oakland Hills last week, which is obviously hosted some big time events, Ryder Cup, you know, U.S.am, a few. years ago a lot more events and uh like the general manager of the club was like thanking me for being there i'm like i'm usually a guy you guys barely want on you know on property you know i kind of sneak in there with a when i'm a guest and like hey how's it going you know hit a few balls play the course and just

kind of get out of there and now it's like they want me to hang around i was doing like trophy photos with people it was like the craziest thing ever so yeah let's change quite a bit and uh still not getting used to it i'm sure you guys have had plenty uh golf offers who have been on and, like, I used to it. But for me, it's just, uh, it's a big change. It's definitely a big change and enjoy it for now. Yeah, man, enjoy it. That's very cool.

Thank you so much. Congratulations, James. It's just crazy, man. Tiger Woods, Jack, Nicholas, James, Pius. It's like, what's happening, dude? I said I just made the trophy lose its value by putting my name out of selling people. It'll be just decreased in value. I'm sorry what I just did, guys.

Oh, that's good shit. Unreal. Well, congrats. Good luck this next season. Good luck with your decision. When you're ready to make it, let us know, and we'll tell the world, you know, what you're going to do. Yes, that's part of being a Barclos athlete. We have to break all your news. You got to break on my news.

We're your media machine. Yes, we are. Yes, you have to consult us. We have to talk about it. We have to, like, come up with a plan and a media plan. We have to get you on certain shows. Like, we'll get you on the Today show. We'll do what we got to do.

We'll do all publicly. So all these conversations, we have them on the podcast. Podcasts publicly. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it. We'll make some stuff happen.

Yeah. There's no closed door. We don't do closed door to stop this all on the podcast. All right. Thanks, James. We appreciate it. Good luck. Good luck this year, brother.

Yeah, thank you so much, guys. I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, thank you. Absolutely. Well done.