Fore Play - Murder by Torrey, and Bryan Trottier

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

Live from the 18th green of Torrey Pines, we’re back. We’re joined the second half of the show by NHL legend, 7-time Stanley Cup winner Bryan Trottier (25:07). Before then, we give knee-jerk reactions to playing 2021 U.S. Open venue Torrey Pines from 7,800 yards: the bad, the ugly, and the even worse.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Publix, et cetera. We are on the 18th green at Torrey Pines, and I will say conservatively, and if you are under 18, maybe under 13, cover your ears. But I would say that

Torrey Pines just ripped each one of our dicks off, curled it up, and did maybe a little ball and then shoved it down our throat. Yes. That's a good way to describe what happened.

To know where we were gone, but I think that was pretty goddamn accurate. Have we ever done a podcast standing up like this? We are recording audio as just a couple guys talking. You know, we're standing on the 18th apron of the green.

Right, we're not technically right on the green. I think at some point we're going to walk over there. We're going to go meander our way on to the green. We got 18th green at 9 by the sprinklers. Yeah, so, you know, we're just standing here with our hands in our pockets. We got loaves on. I didn't know what to do with my hands. We're looking at each other.

I'm actually trying to make as little amount of eye contact as possible with you guys because we're so goddamn close. I can do it with you, but you, it's weird. It's super weird. You're really close. Yeah. We're just a couple guys staying around a golf course talking about a podcast. It actually feels like the most natural speaking that we've ever had.

Because we do this after rounds anyway. We just played Torrey Pines South from 7,800 yards. And now we're just talking about our round. We just happen to be biked up, and we have hundreds of thousands of people listening to us. It's true. I've got to say, we have Brian Trottier on this show, who is a four-time Stanley Cup champ, I Wonder Legend, Hall of Famer. Seven-time Stanley Cup champion. Four times as a player?

Four times as a player. Oh, six times as a player one time with the avalanche. Six as a player? Yes, he went from the Islanders to the penguins and won two of them. Jesus, this guy. So there's a lot of interesting tidbits here. He, as I looked up, too, there's one of the top 100 NHL players of all time. Hall fame.

You know, he's, this was probably one of the highest moments of my career. Like, just being, being, it's all encompassing for me, right? Huge Islander fan. My dad is the biggest Brian Trottier fan ever. We now have a military plane. flying over the helicopter. Thank you for your service. It's very funny that we didn't think about that at all

when trying to set this up. To the San Diego station for the United States Air Force and Asia. It's just the loudest vehicle. Woo! Are we picking that up in the audio? Oh, yeah. It's going, yep.

All right. I mean, we just have to wait for that guy to fly over. When we were out here filming for behind the greens a couple months ago, the guy was saying, Like, this place is just impossible to hold a conversation. Yeah. Because, especially during the day, because, like, you'll be talking. And then you all just have to awkwardly stare at each other for, like, five to ten seconds while these military planes are flying over, these, like, Air Force plane, because you just can't hear anything.

You can even hear your own thoughts. I said to Trent today one time, I said, you know, Trent, is your ball by that tree? And then it was right, one of these things. I go, is your ball by the tree? You just screamed back at me. I just don't know. But it's interesting. So this was, this interview, too, was very interesting because.

I could not make it and we sent, you know, our Larry King and Walter Cronkite of the group. The A-Squad. To interview. Dude, I, I, like, tucked my pee-pee in between my legs and I said, we just got to do it. You know? I was a little bit nervous, and I was like, we just, I don't even know if that's the correct saying of what I just said. I don't think that is the same.

It was actually the opposite. That's usually kind of when you run away. Yeah, it's the opposite. Yeah, it's the tail between your legs. Not your pee-pee. Peepee between your legs would be when you're doing like a bit with the boys. Yeah. In your time.

Well, I was just saying, you know, I look at like it's a vagina sometime. Really what it was. You know, ever see somebody? Is it like, I put my cock on the table is what I was going to say. And I didn't want, and I want that to be a little bit more friendly to like the, you know. It's a kid show.

I think it went. I think it went pretty well. We did start the show by talking about ripping her dicks off. I didn't want to do the interview alone. So I had Trent come on there because I was nervous. I'm going to be very honest with the listeners. I was super nervous about conducting an interview with an Islander's legend. And you are an islanders fan, right?

I am a diehard Islanders fan. for anyone doesn't know, they are falling right now. They're not really winning that many games. We're limping into the playoffs. It is what it is. Brian Trottier, his number has been up in the rafters. His name's been up in the Raptors at the Nassau Coliseum. It's something that I've always seen.

Nice from the Trotier, Tadier de Bassey. I've watched YouTube videos. My dad's told me the golden days, the glory days. So I was nervous, but it went fucking fantastic. The guy is a character. He talks about the toughest players has ever played against, winning four cups, Long Island, Borrellys. We go into it.

And it was fucking awesome, man. We recorded this about a week ago. Yeah. And I'm really excited for people to come, you know, listen to it and hear it. So that's part of the show. And it's like 50 minutes. People are, it's your first interview. First of you guys did together meant a lot to Frankie.

And I'm genuinely excited to listen. A, hockey guy and that seven times Stanley Cup. Is that what it is? Seven times Stanley Cup. Yeah, well, six is a player and one is like on the coaching set. Didn't realize it. Seven times Stanley Cup. One of the best, you know, hockey players a whole time.

He made the playoffs every single year of his 18-year career. except for one. Think about that. The guy didn't know what losing was. That's outrageous. Just didn't know what losing was. He tells a great story. No, go ahead.

He tells a great story about Ken Morrow, who I've talked about on this goddamn show. And when he said that name, I'm like, holy shit, I love Ken Morrow. Ken Morrow was on the 1980 Olympic team in 1980. And then in 1980, 1980, and then in 1980, and then in 1980, won his first Stanley Cup with the Islanders, and then won four cups.

So he went from a gold medal straight into the NBA. NHL season won a cup, won a cup, won a cup, went to the cup of fifth year and didn't win. But what a fucking five years for that guy. Jeez, that's amazing. I was going to say it's our, technically our second interview after we, Brian Baumgartner for five minutes, who we ran into today actually. At Torrey Pines. We had a very awkward moment where we... I almost jumped into the ocean. We knew he was here. We saw him arrive. And then we were like, we should go up to him and chat with him, and especially we tried him to do a scramble or whatever. And then we discussed, We're like, do you think he knows who we are?

Because any time we've interviewed him, it's been via Zoom, and he does interviews all the time. And we think he's super friendly with us. He is, but, like, you pop into fucking 10 Zooms over the course of a week. Yeah. Are you really going to recognize these guys? And Frankie, he was clearly doing it because we had our guys with the camera, the giant camera right in our faces,

and he was doing the walk by and kind of look at your phone. And just whatever's going on over here on the left, don't be part of my world look. And then Frankie tried to open with a joke being like, you're just going to ignore us. And then he looked over, saw the cameras, and was like, yes. And still didn't recognize us. I wanted to crawl into a fucking hole when I said, Brian, and he turns.

And I said, what are you just going to ignore us? And he made eye contact with me, as I said that. And he goes, I'm not ignoring you guys and kind of just turned and continued. He had no clue what it was. My joke did not land. And I said, oh, where the guys from? And I fumbled over my words like I usually do when I'm nervous. I'm like, where the guys from Barstool?

I didn't know if you knew through the camera. and he's like, oh, and then he was in. Then it was amazing. Yeah. I mean, it's Kevin Malone from the fucking office, man. It's a fucking Brian Baumgart. Then he was hilarious. He was telling stories.

He was chirping us. He's talking about golf. So he's here. We ran into him. We're going to play some golf with him. The interview with Trouty, it's awesome. I'm going to, I'm excited to listen to it. I heard it's awesome.

50 minutes. 50 minutes. So people have that coming up. And then, you know, Torrey Pines, like I said, we just played Torrey Pines South. The day after we played Olympic Club, we played it from as far back as you can go. Now, that's like 78 plus.

There were only on the part three is that we played at basically one T-box up because they didn't want us taking divvits out of the T-boxes, which makes sense. But even, I don't even think the U.S. Open will be held at 7,800, probably be 7,500 or so. And we played it longer than that. And we got murdered. And every time I hit the button on this beautiful Bushnell wingman GPS range finder device, you know, we hit a decent T-shot, hit one out there on the right rough like you usually do, and it would be like 278 center.

I'd be like, well, this is a bar for. On the low side, 270, at least for me, because I don't put it out there as far as you guys. It was like 3.13. It was like, boy. There were times it was like 313 center, like 301 front, 340 back. And you're like, oh, okay.

I just didn't know a golf. Experience on a golf course I've never had before. Honestly, and I've played Torrey Pines South before. It's beaten my dick in. I've been on this 18th green with a chance to just pull. heart and break 90, which was always my goal because it's such a hard golf course. And I didn't do it the first time. Coming into the second time, it's just like, what are we fucking doing, playing this from

7,800 yards? Never had that experience being, I mean, I was piping drives today, piping them. You hit the ball well. You didn't even post that bad of a score. No, I didn't. I actually had a better score today from 7,800 than I did at Olympic from 65, which is nuts to me. And I felt like I really didn't play that poorly today, and I barely skimmed you on the scores.

I definitely hit the ball well. It's just, I mean, we all know. I get into those just like those yips fits and with the wedges and it's just it adds up quick. But my point was like I'm bombing drives, which like I just can't fathom a guy like Kevin Kisner hitting them that much further. Right. And I was having, I had 265 into par fours. And I'm standing there on top of these, over these balls being like, man, how can a guy in a tournament, a US Open a championship? Sorry, USG if they're standing around.

A championship. How can a guy confidently be standing over this ball from like? 240 out, let's say, 2.30. On a par four and be like, yeah, I'm making three here. That's nuts. With everything on the line, with like history, money, status on the line. And it was relentless. Like, we'd play a par four that was tough, and it was into the wind.

It was 450. We had three irons in. Still came up short. And then we get to the next one. It'd be like, 527. Par four. You're like, well, what the fuck is this? And you'd finally get to a part five, and it would be like 627. Which I actually think is the easiest part of the golf course, the par fives.

Yeah, and there's 600 plus. shock. Right. So, I mean, you murder one 3.30, you still have 300 in it. That's if you murdered one. Some of these T-boxes were, and we like to say it on the podcast, we don't like to say it. Laugh out loud funny. I mean, one of them, the 13th hole, we legitimately had to drive.

Like most of them, we just walk back and it's funny. We had to take a separate road to get to the 13th T-box for the U.S. Open T's. But I will say every time we pulled up, it was very nice to hit a button. Yeah, that thing's awesome. I do like that. And boom, all of a sudden, this thing just gives you. the yardage and now again we told this last time but we can't listen to music when we film videos because if music that you don't own is in the videos you get in a lot of trouble

so we don't listen to music when we're on video when we are not on video we listen to music non-stop and you have whatever kind of your genre is cranking on this thing it can go the sprinkler's just trying to sprout here that was just the doubt to say we should go up there too can go 36 holes it has up to 10 hours of battery life it's got the little remote that you put in your pocket you just hit a button and boom it gives you the distance And all you got to do is hook it up to the Bushnell app, and then it shows you the map of the hole. So like Trent and I were in the card together, we had no idea it was going on because we haven't been here before. We're 550 yards away on a hole that we're supposed to put it into a tiny hole in four tries, by the way.

The office is so stupid when you think about that. And we pulled up and had absolutely no idea what we were looking at. So we were able to just look on the map on there. You're able to put, you know, okay, I want to, if I hit it here, I have 112 in, so I need to hit a 200-yard drop from here. and then try to get down from parr like we were doing all day. So this thing's awesome. Go to bushnellgolf.com slash four. Order your wingman golf speaker today.

Bushnellgolf.com slash four. It's the only, the only, the world's first golf speaker featuring audible GPS distance and the premium sound quality. So go get the Bushnell wingman. It's really cool. There's a real part of me that thinks I shouldn't be allowed to play these golf courses.

You were as dejected, Trent, as I've ever seen you. It's just frustrating. And I do like to be the positive guy. I think I said on the last show. But when we play golf courses like this, it's tough. Like when you and I have been playing recently in the New York area, like those are golf courses that I should be playing. Lurch has now joined the show.

I don't know if we got to turn his mic on. But then we come out here. We play 7,800 yards at Torrey Pines South. We played Olympic yesterday. It's just sometimes I don't think I should be allowed on the property. For someone that plays the game like you do where you know how to hit the golf ball, you know how to get the ball. the hole at some level, right? Like, you do it. You come out here, you're on a golf pocket

as you play. I think you had the toughest day I think I've seen, I've ever played with. I think we have to move. We're going to keep recording. Let's just get out of here. Listen, we were on the 18th green. We were going to do a whole thing. That's where Tiger Woods putt at Torrey Pines. And it's one of the most iconic putts of all time in golf history. But you know what? It's just not in the cards for us tonight, boys. It's not a fucking anything different. We're trying so long. We just trying not to get hit by water right now. Is this okay right here? Trying to keep my legs here.

I'm so tired. I'm just trying to keep my legs on it. Yeah. So the point is, Trent was as dejected as I've ever seen him on the golf course. And what I would tell you, Trent, is that a little bit of good news is that you're kind of going through what we've all gone through a million times, which is like you build up, you build up, you think you've got it. I think you've figured it out to a degree. You think you've turned a corner with your game. You had a little trouble there.

Did I? Yeah. Where you think that. I'm so hungry. We came to speak. You found a spot where you're like, okay, this is my swing. This is my game. I'm not going to get worse than this.

I can bring it every time. And when I really play, we'll play a little bit. And then when you go like five steps backwards, it is the most dejecting how in the hell that I, as a human being, as an athlete, go from where I was to where I'm at now. And I know part of that's the golf course, but also part of it's just this dumb-ass game that we do a podcast about all the time. Tough two days.

Cool. You said, today makes me, I'm good with golfer, at least a month. It sucks. Just Trent was making so much progress. I've seen it. Physically saw him making progress. I'm like, dude, you're sticking up.

And this sent him back. Right. Light years. Yeah. You said five steps. I would say that it was like 40. I'm not kind of sugar-coded. It was bad.

Yeah. Tumbled everybody, though. Like right now I'm like, who. Like, yesterday I was feeling dangerous. Today I was like, I don't even want to play. Like, what, I'm going to hit a drive out there. Then I kind of heard you guys saying like that I have 270. and you smack something else up there,

then it's like a pitching puck. It's the golf course, man. It really is. We would say it's not, but it is. And it's always champagne problems when we talk about it that way. Kevin Kizner talks like he goes, US Open, not going to win it, can't win. Right. Like, that's just like, that's just the way it is, man.

For us, it should just be not going to play it. Right. Like, not like, you know. And this is what we have, you know, long defended ourselves and our take of like, no, no, when we show up to a course, we're not looking to go all the way back. We're not these macho alpha tough.

We don't get. But fuck, what we want to do is live in this 6,500-yard range where you can have a few long par fours. You can have a lot of shorter par-fors. You can have reachable par-fives. You can have a couple longer and a couple shorter par-threes. And have yourself a great time and enjoy it. And play the course more like the pros play it in terms of yardage. We're going to have eight irons and nine irons in instead of fucking three iron and then a pitching wedge all day.

Three wood and then something else. But this was for the video. We came out here and we wanted folks to see it. When we put this shit out, Trent just took his shoes off in the middle of the house. They just had my shoes. had to come off. I'm sorry to interrupt your thought, but my shoes just had to come off. You take your shoes off? Bro, but they just have to. You're lucky my pants are still on. I'm just, the shoes had to come off. We played against and alongside pros, and I don't know that

I've ever had more respect for what they do than today, not being with them, and playing something like this at Torrey Pines South. I really don't. I don't know. You can shoot under pole out here. We've legitimately, we've legitimately seen Kevin Kisner, Pat Perez, all these guys up close, Dustin Johnson, never heard of them all these guys are tailor-made thank you tailor-made for that experience but um i've never in my life like standing over balls today i've i've all day i was just stepping back being like how how do they hit this green and two and how do they make a three how was that the 17th you were looking at we were like it was um no 17 it was 18 just being like right or 16 it was 16 it was just like how did oh it was 16 because you were like how could you make a part

from here like you need to make a part how you're Yeah, I think it was the 15. 15. That, like, 527 part 4. 16. The point is every hole. The whole thing we're talking about right now is every single hole out here kicks you in the dick. And it's going to be very fun to watch because it's going to be carnaged.

They're going to get destroyed. But they're also going to play it pretty well. And it's going to have a – it's going to give me a lot more appreciation for it. Like when Patrick Reed just broke a wedge over his hands and pebble, guess what? He was playing in the U.S. open. I almost stepped on a hybrid today and just snapped it. And that's like the closest I've come to breaking a club ever. I don't think I've ever broken club.

I think if somebody in this group were going to break a club, it would have been today. If it was ever going to happen, it would have been today. I was playing a little bit better, and I was getting a nice string of holes together, and I had a hybrid in my hand, and the ball was sitting up nice in the rough, and I'm like, I am going to fucking lace this thing. I felt really good about it. I was feeling good, and I just dribbled it into the bunker in front of me, and I kind of just looked at this fucking shaft, and I'm like, just step on it, man.

It's going to make you feel so much better, but I just didn't want to. want to deal with all that shit, so I just didn't. And I kind of looked up at this guy being like, you know what? I, I, a club has it coming for him because today I say the club's life. Yes. At some point? That club was supposed to be dead. I don't think we're club break guys. We're not.

We're not, but yeah, no doubt. My bag is down a club mentally. Like I, and there was, it was funny because there was a lot of, you know, maniacally laughing at yourself moments that then eventually, each person eventually got to a

Kind of serious. I'm actually pissed. Dude, it just sucks for like. I was mad, dude. I'm pissed. I think I was the most pissed off when I, when you just missed the putt, it's like behind the hole. And you can't just whack it into Neverland because they're playing everything down. You have to gently tap it against the stick.

And it's like that in those moments, I wanted to just. You have to have these dainty soft hands and just softly brush it into the hole. I don't want to play this game anymore. Oh yeah, let's not like, yeah, we didn't really like talk about that. Like, we played 7,800 yards. ball in hole. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Legitimately ball and hole. Everything. So I think this course is maybe ten times harder than... Olympic? Olympic Club? Oh, Olympic, but then... Remember what I said... Wing foot?

Thank you. Remember what I said yesterday to you guys? Remember what I said to you guys yesterday? I'm like, tomorrow's test is going to be... You said two to three times harder. Two to three times harder. You said that's not even golf. Yeah.

And I said if it's two to three times harder than when we play Olympic, it's a different sport. Now, after playing today, do you think that assessment was kind of fair? I think it wasn't even close. Today was a thousand times. Because I was like, I was being real with them. Like, dude, tomorrow's going to be like two to three times harder than this. I remember having a wedge in on two. And then after that, I don't, I think the closest club that I had into a green was a four-hound.

No, I had a six-hundred a couple to put like. It was just relentlessly. You know what it was? It felt like when you play with a really small child who's playing a full golf course but is a child and not a full human. And it's like, oh, they're playing a normal length par four that we're all. Like I said, take him about four to get to the green. That's cool. He's like an old man.

That's cute. That was us. It was like, I would hit a T shot and they'd be like, all right. Now maybe two more shots. I could get it on the green on this average length par four for what's this tournament in. Championship is. The rough wasn't even that long. No, no.

It was sticky? Yeah. Like, your club didn't just rip through it. Like, wasn't like rushing. That course would be more difficult. It's going to be impossible. The fact that some human being, some mere mortal could come out here and shoot below par on a par on a par 71. It's embarrassing.

They should be embarrassed. They should be. They could do anything like that. Yeah. Like, the fact that they can come out here and play this golf course that way is embarrassing to me. It's infuriating. How good of a venue is it, though? Because, like, we love carnage.

We love the U.S. Open. We love the way the U.S.GA sets it up. Like, that's just something. We are team golf course. We're team establishment. So, like, at the end of the day, this thing, what is? Team establishment is a weird one. I don't know that I'd put it that.

I don't want to be under the team establishment. Well, I meant like the USDA. Oh yeah, we love the USDA. Spitting after it was strong. When you got a quadrued, you spit a little bit. That felt like... My mouth so dry and hungry that I'm like trying to do. The visuals and like this is kind of what we want out of the US open, right?

It is brutally difficult. It's going to be stunning the vistas, the drone shots, all of that. Today especially like when we put this video out, people were going to go nuts because the cliff shots, we had all the hang lighters were out there, we had helicopters all over. It is visually just as stunning of places you can be, but you don't want to play it. I'm not going to be a whistling straights a bit. Like when we played whistling straights a couple years ago,

where it was just like, yeah, people were like, what'd you think? And I was like, I just wish I didn't play it. I wish I just visited it. It was so brutal. Oh, the views are great. You made, the point of like, if someone asked you to come play this course in a week from 78 other yards, I'd be like, keep the dude. I would just say no.

Right, absolutely not. I'd rather play minigal. I'd go get them a style. I'm just not going to do it. I would rather sit and, like, stream 2K with you guys than do that. I'd never want to play this from that length ever again. It was just... I don't know that anyone should.

I don't even know if you can't. I think a lot of the times they're, like, just blocked off for safety reasons. The other thing is, I didn't hit any fareways. I mean... It's very hard when you're trying to step on your eyes. I mean, it's... And then if you don't hit a fairway, you, like, can't hit a green. You step up to a 535-yard par four.

It's not that easy to hit a fairway when we're trying to actually lace a driver. We sound like for defeated humans. It's because we are, which is what we want out of the U.S. Open. So this video will be coming out in a few weeks. We'll be coming out U.S. Open Week. We filmed every single shot, and we just got murdered and defeated and beat up, and you're going to get to see all of that footage.

You also now get to listen to an NHL legend. You get to listen to our guys, Frankie and Trent, interview this NHL legend. Trent's already already... It went well. Tren can't even stand up. It also is very funny that, like, me and Trent just did that. Right. Like, I'm kind of nervous for people to sit here and just, like, listen to it right now.

Yeah, I think it went well. I think it's going to be great. Trent told me it went great. There's like Gretzky's there. I heard it's really good. Yeah. So that's coming up next. Reminder folks that there are very high quality shades out there for far less than expensive brands.

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and they have a phenomenal warranty deal. That's code for ShadyRase.com. get 50% off, two or more pair, shady rays.com code four. Here's Brian Trotie. All right, I am truly honored to introduce a living legend, a man that I literally look up to. You know, I see your name hanging from the rafters at Nassau Coliseum every single game I go to. This man played 18 seasons in the National Hockey League, a seven-time Stanley Cup champion, four in a row with the New York Islanders.

He won a Hart Memorial. He won a Khan Smythe. He won the Calder, the King Clancy. The list goes on and on. The all-time leader in points for the New York Islanders, 1353 points. That's a number I can't even fathom. All-time leader in assists. All-time leader in games played.

All of these accomplishments have led him to the Hockey Hall of Fame, and now he sits here on the four-play golf podcast somehow some way. Brian Trottier, welcome to the show. I am so honored to speak to you. What an intro, and guys, it's a pleasure to be here on top of it. All it takes is an invite, and I'm there. Man, it's a party I'm in. Oh, man.

Oh, mine, I heard you Barstale guys are a party. Yeah, you know, we like to party from here from time to time, but we also love to play golf. We love to watch some hockey. So you are the perfect guest for us to have today. Thank you. Just right off the bat, you're releasing this NFT. It's a new NFT collection.

I want to get that in off the bat. Thanks. So basically what it is, it's these biggest moments in your career, right? So people can now go in, they can bid on them. you have the six-point period where you had a six-point period game. And basically this NFT is capturing this great moment in your career. So I think that's a really cool thing that you're diving into a new, a new, you know, platform and letting people.

That's as new as new as fun. Like, that's something, like, that's something, like, I feel like, I don't even totally understand it. I'm going new millennium here. Yes. Leave me alone. Like, I'm not stuck in cities anymore. You know what's really fun?

about this is I know a little about it, but I am really, it's a digital hockey card basically that, that shares one of my greatest experiences or some of my great experience. So I am so excited in the sense that for hockey fans or people who enjoy that kind of experience or the memorabilia aspect of it, to share that now at this time of my life is very, very special. So yes, I'm extremely excited. I think it's nouveau.

It's beyond my concept when it comes to technology. but the fact that the artists are excited, the memorabilia market is excited about it, and it's new, it's exciting. Thank you for bringing it up. I really appreciate it. It really is a shot in the arm for memorabilia, because, I mean, I grew up collecting cards,

baseball cards, football cards, Pokemon cards, even, and now they've got this new generation of NFTs where if you think about it as a trading card, if you think about it in that way, that's really all that it is, and it is seems like it's the next frontier of memorabilia and collecting. well do you remember like I would grab all these hockey cards my son he goes dad you find any cards up

yourself go grab I'd be in there saying hey you got any trache cards and the guy going are you brand trache I'm like yeah so we filled our basement full like all these stackable little hockey cards that eventually took up all underneath our stairway and I cracked up at myself because now you can put them in cloud you know now there right throw it up in cloud loading which I don't even understand no space taken in the house. So I applaud the technology of this because I don't understand it. But I think for everybody who does and enjoys the idea of having a little something that marks something that's special to them, and I'm a little part of it, hey, Bravo, I'm all in. One of the cool things that you guys are doing also is you're adding a real life experience, which I haven't really

seen with NFTs, right? It's usually a digital thing. But if you got the six point period NFT, they also can win like a real experience with you, whether it's golfing or go to an NHL game with you, which I think is a really cool wrinkle into it because it is digital, but also like you're able to meet you and they're able to play golf with you, which I think is awesome. Well, we think we think the idea of making it beyond the experience is really good. And it's a little more magical that way. I enjoy meeting people.

I enjoy the aspect of many entertaining or just telling stories. and it lights up every and they get an opportunity to share some time FaceTime, not just FaceTime in front of a computer, but face to face time. And I think that that brings it to reality in a sense because although it's digital, now the experience face to face I think just adds that it's real excitement to it. You better watch out. My guy Frankie might get involved in your NFT and he'll probably want to go to a hockey game with you and he is the biggest.

So he's obviously a gigantic Islanders fan, but he's also the biggest. We want Frankie. He's the biggest fan of any sport of any team that I've ever met. He's a legit, almost a lunatic, but he might want to go to a game with you after your NFT. Let's go, let's go. We've got the new building in the up.

Belmont's coming up in the fall. So there's lots of excitement going on with the Islanders. They're pushing for that first place all the time here. They're playing well, an exciting team. You know, they're always in it. You can't count them out. They're down, whether they're up with it's always a, they're going to fight. They're going to scrap.

And so like, yeah, no, I'm in. We'll go to an Islander game anytime. Come on, Frankie. Oh, man. And listen, you know, my history with the Islanders is, so my family has a restaurant across from the Nassau Coliseum called Borrelli's Italian restaurant. And you guys, and it's so crazy that my whole life has gotten to this point where I'm actually able to talk to you about the Islanders and interview because they used to be on

top of the restaurant while you. guys would go down Hempstead Turnpike for those four years went in the cup. And it was such a great experience for my family that there's so much history in my name and my family with the Islanders that it really is crazy to, you know, even be able to, like I said, I've said it 10 times, but even to be able to see you and speak to you, it's nuts to me. Well, to me, it's really fun to have the shared experience of all their, whether it's a restaurant, a bar, a community, a family, there's something that attacks, attaches themselves to the islanders or to an individual of the islanders.

But Borrelli, we remember Borrelli's very well. And there's a million stories we could share. And one of my favorites is either post-game and going in there and just having, walking in and everybody's like, wah! And I'm like, oh, my God, we're just trying to have a little bit of deed. But that was fun. And so, like, no, it's very, very special time, and I'm glad your family was a part of it. That's awesome.

It gave me the chills just even talking about that. So let's get into it real quick. So 1974, you get drafted to the Islanders. The team had only been around for two years. What did you know about Long Island prior to that? You know, a Canadian boy coming over to New York. Did you know much about it? No, it was Long Island we knew was just an extension of New York, basically.

it was, you know, Queens, then Long Island. And we didn't know, I had no clue what Long Island looked like. I had no clue what it was about. But when I was drafted, I went to Montreal that year, and Bill Tori told me I'm going back to junior, which I was fine because I was, you know, just 17 years old, 18 years old. And I needed to grow. I was small, 5, 8, 170 pounds.

And I knew I had to grow. I felt confident in the sense of skills, but I wasn't, you know, man strength yet. And that year back with Earl Ingerfield as my coach and him talking about the NHL and him mentoring me and the speed of the game, the strength of the players, the opportunity to play with great players against great players and test yourself, gauge yourself, just really rev me up. And that was important for me. I put on, you know, almost 15 pounds, grew another couple inches. And going into training camp in the fall was pretty darn exciting because I went out to New York and saw a little bit of Long Island. I saw, you know, the NASA Coliseum, the airport, the Island Inn.

Those are my go-to. You know, right there in the big city of Westbury. But it was all really exciting because the excitement around the team, a young team, a nucleus of team. Clark Gillies was a junior player I played against. We were drafted together. Bobby Bourne, a junior player. We were drafted together. So I had a couple Western boys on the team, Dave Lewis.

So I felt comfortable there. Western guys kind of hung together. And so that familiarity kind of embraced me a little bit. With the last name, Trache, I was French. So the pot vans, the J.P. Parisi, Jude Drew and Andre Saint-Laurea, they adopted me. I was like, oh, good. I'm going with French guys tonight. And so I felt like there was like a little bit of like engaged, like I felt a little bit of an opportunity to kind of put myself right into the nucleus here.

And training camp started, boom, I was, didn't score a point, didn't get anything done in training camp. I hit everything that moved. Al Arbor came up to me after training camp. We're going to keep you around for a while, kid. I had six or seven more games, maybe nine. And before they sent me back to junior, if I didn't do well, boom, took off. Like game two, I think, and that's all coliseum, five-point game, hat trick. I never looked back.

But, you know, Billy Harris, right way in Clark Gillies, the power play, you know, Dennis Podfin, everything just started to click. And when things are clicking, you ride that wave. And, you know, two weeks into the season, I'm neck and neck with Gila Fleur in the scoring race. And I'm like, this can't, this can't be real. And Al Arbor said, look, you better find yourself a place to stay. So I bunked in with a family for the year.

And there's still my surrogates. I love them to death. The end of those. There's just so many exciting things that happened to me that year in New York. I remember getting invited to my first Italian dinner. And I was so excited. And I go, I go, I'm, you know, it's like a 10 course meal, of course. Everything is like perfect.

And it's out on kind of like, you know where the fork is? And I, you know, drive out an hour. And it's really kind of by the time I get there, it's dark. And I'm very excited because this is another family that's embracing me and inviting me to a dinner in Long Island. And Saskatchewan, you're invited to someone's house for dinner. Man, you're like, you're like family now. So I go to the house. I sit down.

I'm sitting right next to their daughter. I'm like, oh my God, I think I'm getting married. They're setting you up. They're setting you up for a new. So I learned a quick lesson there. But it was, that was really fun to find all the wonderful, I think, just the fun parts of Long Island, you know, the different communities, the different, the things that made each community

kind of there's South Shore, North Shore, North Fork, Hamptons, I mean, there's just so many things that made long Island special. Trying a question now, are you struggling to stand up right now? Yes, I am. You know what you really need for your body? What?

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So four Stanley Cups in a row, right? You started getting going, like you said, game two, and it was off to the races. But what is it about that team? I feel like people don't take a step back enough and say, what you guys did is like unthinkable of four straights down the guys. What about that team? What happened? It was crazy.

Like there was some, there's some special things that happened, some special players that came on the team through that growth. Because like in 77, 78, we had a couple. We had Mike Bossi, he was fresh, gold scoring machine. The power play was red hot. But we go up against Toronto, we lose. Next year, 79, we go up against the Rangers, we lose.

And expectations are high. We learned how to deal with expectations. Then on top of it, some major trades, butch-growing comes. Kenny Moore's the team. We get Dway from junior hockey. You know, we get Dave Langevin, John Tenelli from the world hockey. There's just a whole bunch of things that just kind of like meshed. And all of a sudden, the chemistry took off.

We got challenged. We got challenged at the right time from the right teams, whether it was the Triple Crown line in L.A., whether it was the French connection in Buffalo, there was always something in front of us that took a challenge. Al was terrific. Al was great.

Our coach, Al Arbor was terrific. He put the challenge in front of us, and the guys responded. He goes, hey, you know, there's 600 million people in China that don't care. And Dave Landjouin said, it's two billion, Al. You know, like, he mismay to kind of put it down

and brought it down, the expectations. And at the same time, our sense of wanting to accomplish something, that sense of, we don't want to look over our shoulder and have people say, what if, what if, what if? It's now.

And so we embraced it. The core of that four Stanley Cup teams stayed together. I think there's 14 or 16 players that were on all four cups. A special group of guys because every one of those guys contributed in some way. It wasn't just scoring a goal.

It was blocking a shock. It was doing something that everybody appreciated. And when you appreciate each other, there's an acknowledgement of worth. And everybody left that team feeling like, man, I gave my very best and everybody thanked me. Whether you looked at the guy in the eye, you know, give him a fist pump, a little tap on the shin pads, that's all a hockey player needs. Just acknowledgement. Al was terrific. I mean, Bill Torrey was terrific.

He kept that nucleus together. He kind of pulled in a player or two through those years and just added like Mike McEwen one year or whoever it was. and we always kind of stuff to ourselves. You know, we had that core and the chemistry. The chemistry is very important. And you'll hear that a lot, whether it's with Chicago Bulls and, you know, the Steelers of the 80, like everybody talks about chemistry. And that chemistry that we had as a group was very special because when we get together to,

it's like everybody goes back to that locker room and we all take that identity again, all nicknames, you know, the pecking pole of a locker room and who gets picked on and who gets, yelled at. And it's just so comical because it's fun. You know, it makes us ageless in that sense. But I was walking, I was walking. Well, actually, I was sitting in the airplane the other day. It was probably three years ago now. And this guy's looking at me across the aisle. I'm like, who's going to recognize me at my age, you know, thinning hair, gray hair and whiskers and everything? And the guy looked at me and I thought I could catch him. Every time I looked at him, he looked away. And finally our eyes locked. And he goes, oh, I'm so sorry. You know, I'm.

I thought I recognized you. You look exactly like Brian Trache, only older. I don't know if that's a compliment or not, but I'll take it. And then I just, out of the blue, I just threw back at him like, yeah, I wonder ever happened to him. And the guy goes, just as like, he's a guy, he's probably dead. Like, it was just so comical. He had no clue.

I was actually Brian Trach. It was so great. Oh, my God. I like how you said the other day and then it was like, oh, those three years ago, I do that all the time where I say like, yeah, I haven't just. the other day. I was like, that was 10 years ago. I was like, oh, man, I screwed that up, but that's so funny. You know what's funny about that people don't know much about this, but you guys were trendsetters, not only obviously winning the Cups, but the playoff beard.

It's one of my favorite stories that I've heard you tell. The New York Islanders were the originator of the playoff beard. So many teams now in all different sports have adopted that. Well, it was the year before I came, and the islands were down to the Rangers. actually there was like three game series and they won that series and they were down three nothing against the penguins and they decided not to shave till they won the series and so they went through that whole series they won the series they came back and won that series four games to three then they went up against philadelphia and they kept their beards they went down three nothing and they figured oh my god we're going to do the lucky beard thing and and keep it

going again they came back to tied three three and lost in game seven when uh the game seven in Philadelphia. So unfortunately for them, you know, but the beard thing started. And it became a trend that stays in the NHL today, playoff beards, boom,

let's go. Yep. I had these little tiny whiskers back in the good old days, you know, like eight whiskers here, you're like a little bit of wiskers here. You're talking straight to me now. I can't grow any facial hair.

Beak you little sideburns for whatever reason, but we'll figure. Anyway, when the playoffs beard happened, the guys were like, well, Trot, you do the best you can.

Like, you know, it's really comical for like two or three years and all of a sudden everything started coming in fell off up here and started growing out up here i'm like god is funny like he just makes everything go south gravity whatever it is but it was just uh but that that sense of history on the beards and the start of the playoff beers and the fact that the islander started the whole thing and i can remember like j p perise he had a full beard in like two days drew drew and had a full beard in two days dennis botvin had a full beard in two days and there i am

with like eight whiskers right yeah well you definitely made up for it with the with the you know your physicality on the ice i love watching highlights of the way you played the game yeah now the way you played the game do you think that that would because we've had debates especially now 2021 the way the nchl is now it's skill based right like they have to find the smallest amount of net to to get past these goal is at this point right scoring a goal is nearly impossible these days do you feel like your game would have translated well because you were such a skilled And then no one can knock you off your skates. Like you were such a strong, skilled centerman.

You know, the really fun thing is, is like we would love the chance to gauge ourselves in today's game with the training they have and the diet, nutrition, everything else that they have. You know, the everything that they do is geared towards excelling to their very best. And these guys are machines. I mean, they're fantastic, wonderful athletes. We didn't have that kind of training. We were doing the best.

we can at the time. And we thought we were doing very good. You know, we brought in aerobics. We brought in like stretching. We brought in a whole bunch of things that were new-vote to the game with our Islander team. And we felt good. It's all like injury prevention or it was always like improve our stamina and recovery. And for us, we felt pretty proud to be that part of that whole experiment with training and Ron Waski who was like, you know, just just a very mentor to all of us, you know, even though he was basically only a few years older than us, but he brought all this wonderful education to us in training and performance. And now you see the players today. And nobody looks at me and I've got 524 goals, but nobody looks at me, goes, oh, there goes

Brian Trache, that, you know, that 500 goals score. But you look at Mike Bossy, oh, what a goal score. know, 570 goals. There goes Gila Fleur, 530 goals. My God, what a goal score. And I, but I think what's really fun for me is if I talk to 500 goals scores, Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky, Joubert Perrault, Mike Bossy, some of the very best, Marcel Dion, and I say to them, how do you think you'd get, you'd do against today's goaltenders, you know,

the big equipment and, you know, it seems like there's a little bit in it, and they're big guys. I mean, our goal is, you know, you got Darren Pang, who's like 5 foot two, you know, 116 pounds soaking wet, and he's got the little equipment on. And he's athletic. I mean, Darren did fantastic. But now you've got these big goalies. They're all over six foot.

They're covered a lot of net. Even on their knees, they look like Ken Dryden to me. You know, like they're covering the top part of the net. And not a one of them, not one of them. Even flinched. They're like, yeah, I'd find a way. And that's really kind of the confidence, I think that, that I don't want to say, the very, very best have, but the very best goal scores have is like, they want that challenge.

They want to, like, they just believe that they'll find a hole. And that's how I, not that I was like the greatest goal score. Like, but every time I try it, like, that'll find a hole. Get it on the net, it'll find a hole. Make the goal to make a save. If he doesn't make a save, there'll be a rebound. Something good will happen. And a lot of times it finds a hole.

And it's a confidence thing. I think when you, when you shoot the puck with confidence, I think something good is going to happen. Something good will happen. either go in, rebound, you know, give yourself a chance, law of averages, whatever it is. And, you know, in rooming with Mike Bossy and hearing some of his, I don't know, just his philosophy, you know, like, yeah, just put it on the net and make the goalie make a safe. Sometimes I put it low. Sometimes they put it low. Sometimes they put up by his ears. Sometimes they put it, you know, by the gloves.

Sometimes I'll throw a five hole. And I love that because you kind of, you feed off that kind of confidence. So, you know, he was vital, I think, for me to have some kind of success. the success that I had. It seemed like I threw the puck over to the right side. Mike scored a goal. It's like, oh, what a great assist by Brian Trotche. I'm like, I just passed on the puck.

He did the rest with a snapshot or quick shot or slap shot, heavy shot. And some of the best, best goal scores, what I've heard, because I'm not a goalie, but talking to our goalies like Chico Resch and Billy Smith and some of the other goalies like Tony Esposito, when those players shoot the puck, it's heavy shot. I used to say, what's a heavy shot? Well, my shot hits the goalie, and it just falls down. Their shot hits the goalie, and boom, it throws them backwards. And that's the difference.

Dennis Podman's wrist shot was a heavy wrist shot, and it hit the goalie here, boom. And my shot hits the goal, like pink. So what goes into that, do you think? Is it just, they're born with it? Because you see that in baseball also, a heavy fastball. Same mile per hour, but it just makes a different sound when it hits the catcher's mint. Isn't that the truth? And it just, I don't know.

It must be technique. I say to myself, is it wrist spin on the puck? I don't know. But these guys have that knack, whether it's a gift from birth, whether it's just something they practiced over and over. My dad had it. My dad was a righty, and I was a lefty. And he taught me how to shoot righty.

And I wish I would have stayed with it. Every time I got into a game, I'd flip over to lefty, it felt more comfortable with my right hand on the top. And he'd yell at me and pull it back. So I was kind of one of those guys that kind of went back and forth. for a couple of years when I was playing hockey. But when you finally score your first goal and then, you know, your dad says, oh, I guess you are lefty, sort of thing.

You know, but I never, I was just trying to get the puck on the net. I was kind of like, like Phil Esposito. Like I talked to Phil and feels like, no, my shot wasn't that hard, but I put it on the net. I made the goalie make a save. And goalies hated that. They hated the fact that you had that off speed, that off speed shot after they're waiting for that, you know, that 90-mile-an-hour Mike Bossi,

here comes Brian Trache, 52 miles an hour. Hit him with a change-up. Yeah, big changeup, like... Folks, our landing page is now live. You go to barstfulsports.com slash tailor-made. We have pictures of us up there. We took professional photos, by the way. It was weird.

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Today I hit it better than yesterday. Or the last two days, I guess, just like... Yesterday. Yes, yesterday. Yes. Yes. I agree with that. But today I had some insane... And yesterday you shot...

like a phenomenal score. I've shot a pretty damn good score. Those daily nines are paying off because you're short-draim. I would say today, dude, today you were good again. I mean, you hit the ball a lot better today, but it saves you. It really does. It's incredible. And big thanks to tailmen in the high-toe wedges and the spider.

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maybe it was a decision like, hit it low, hit it on. I went with something else and they both just stayed there. Same tree. So that's just where they are. They're waiting for me a Quaker. So Barbudi actually brought me a seven iron. It ends up being like a regular shaft and like mid-sized grips and everything. My point being, it just doesn't matter.

It didn't matter because the club head is so good that I hit, I mean, I hit my seven iron today. I don't think I miss it at once. And I'm on 18, I ended up making a par on 18 at Torrey Pines South. I hit a seven iron into the green. It stayed up on the ridge. They didn't go in the water. I'm like, man, this is just the seven. 90s. It's just tailor-made. I love the

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160, right? So at the end of their careers, they'll never, I always struggle with this. Like, a Connor McDavid is, is a once in a generation talent. But he'll never go down as like the greatest of all time or like one of the greats because he can't get to those points. You know what I mean? Like he'll never get to that level.

Do you like put any weight on that? Like where do you fall on that? Yeah, not at all. Like it's a different, it's a different monster today. Like you look at what Obetchkin's done over his. Right. You know,

he's just been a goal scoring machine. And even the greatest goal scores are marveled by it. And I find a, they'll find a way. Like, Connor McDavid will find a way. Like, just like Sidney Crosby finds a way. Just like, you know, Patrick Kane finds it. These great players find a way to push themselves into that elevation of being spectacular. Okay.

Phrase of all time. Spectacular. Dynamic. Like, bring, bring the fans out of the, bring us, you know, former hockey players who are fans of the games. You know, make us marvel. And they do. So yeah, Connor McDavid,

all these kids that are coming up. God bless them, you know, Matthews, I'm a big, big fan of these kids. And now you just pull for them because you want to be the next ambassador

or the game and you want them to carry that torch high and excel. And excel to their best of their ability, you know, stay healthy and all those wonderful things because Connor McDavid, Mike Bossy, we were talking about him in the Islanders. And he goes,

Connor McDavid is the fastest human being. I've ever seen in a pair of skates. I said, I'm stealing that. That is the best, you know, identification of Connor McDavid, because he does everything at lightning speed that nobody's ever been able to do. You know, I saw Joe Bear Perrault and Gila Flea.

I mean, they excelled, high speed, stick handling, you know, deaking players, you know. And that's hard to do. You know, you can stick handle fast and you can skate fast, but try to do both of them at the same time. And that's what Connor McDavid does. He makes it look so easy. Even the fastest defenseman in the league look nervous when he's coming down on him.

It's like, they're like, oh, oh, and they'll turn around and start skating forward just to get a little head start on him. And he still blows by him. So, no, he's an impressive young man. And, you know, we're marveled at all the skills of these players at that speed. You made the playoffs. I think I may have misread this, but I think you made the playoffs every single single. season of your career except maybe one one yeah how in the world are you walking around right now like right like is your body just crumbling right you think about you have no recovery for your entire

career you go all that way in the playoffs six stanley cup championships as a player how did you recover from year to year well you know you let your body rest you know your body i'll talk to you if you listen to it and but you know when you have aches and pains and we all did it wasn't like i was Superman. We all had aches and pains, you know, little tweaks, knees, you know, this, that, and another thing. And shoulders, I never felt like I was different or better than. Everybody had a brace. I had a knee brace. I had a couple knee brace. I had an elbow brace one playoff, a shoulder harness, one playoff. And you do what you have to do in order to get there. And then you start rehabbing. You know, you start, you know, building that muscle back and getting

ready for the next season. Boom, next thing you know, you're feeling great. But there is wear and tear. arthritis and you deal with that, you know, a little, a leave. Right. You know, those are just a part of my day some days. And I got a hip replacement in 2000, was it 17 already? Holy cow. A few years ago already. But it feels great.

I mean, that's like I love modern medicine. Thank you. You know, like, but, you know, I golf. I don't do anything silly. I don't think a little cranky back once in a while, a little cranky this. But I think everybody. who does some, not just hockey players, but athletes, there's probably brick players out there,

bad backs, bad, you know, arthritis in their hands or whatever, just from laying bricks every day. So there's, I think it's called osteoarthritis, and it's just wear and tear in the body. And, you know, cowboys and their backs and their knees and their hips. Same thing. It's just, it's just wear and tear. And I think all of us who, but when you're giving your all

and you're loving to do something, it's a price you pay, but it's love. It's just pure love. No one, no one's complaining. I don't complain every day. I don't get up in the morning. Oh, man, I wish I wouldn't have played hockey for 18 years. Coach for another 10 and flew on planes.

You know, sleep in a different bed every night. Oh, my God, I'm the luckiest guy in the world to play 18 years. Coach for the, woo, woo, woo. That's a different bed every night. You know, like, that's the fun of it. God, enjoy it, brace it, love it. That's awesome. That's such a good attitude.

It's the only attitude you can have. You all do that. I'm not any different than a whole bunch of other guys. coffee and I talked about it. We were our rivals. He was Edmonton Oilers at New York Islanders. And then we had two teammates who went to Stanley Cup together here in Pittsburgh, roommates, believe it or not, we're sitting there giggling and laughing. Oh, the once mighty Oilers. Oh, those once mighty Islanders. And here we are now. Oh, those mighty penguins. Oh, we're the pesky penguins. Okay, we'll be the pesky penguins. But, you know, like, it's really fun to share those stories with Paul because he feels the same way. Like, we didn't think of it like, oh, my God,

this is a sacrifice or this is this is dedication this is pure joy pure love you know passion and the new word but i think all of those things are just great i mean they're just uh you know i wouldn't trade it a second of any of that we we a little cranky back yeah right that's just amazing because like you you hear like lebron james will sometimes be like oh like no one understands a wear and tear of like going to the championship every single year because you have no offseason these other guys are finished two three months before you so it really has always just been in the back of my mind like that islander team being able to do that four times in a row, you being able to do it six times.

It's just, it's something I can't even fathom, just the wear and tear. And it was a different game, too. You guys, you know, those refs weren't as lenient to call penalties back then as they are now. I mean, you guys, I sit back and watch YouTube videos because I wish I was alive. Trust me. I wish I was alive during the 80s. But fucking, man, you guys were taking slashes every five seconds, getting thrown into the boards. It was not an easy game.

No, there's headhunting. There's all kinds of fun stuff going on. but, you know, I always took the idea it's better to give them, receive and kind of the Christian attitude about everything. But, you know, like, I think, like, I never hit Gilafer. I never hit, you know, I bumped them, but I never hit him, you know, like even Wayne, I like bumped him, but I never hit him like Mario. The purest, you know, you play hockey, I'm playing hockey.

But if a guy wants to get, like, ugly and play a little nasty, I'll play a little nasty. But it's not a big deal. I'm not going to, like, drop my gloves and beat you up. But I'll sting you somehow. But I think over that, over time, you gain. respect, you gain a certain amount of like, okay, he might bring me over here if I rock him a little bit. But guys are, guys are, it's a war, it's a war out there. And I love that war. I love that

battle. I miss it. You know, to fight through checks or fight through a hook or be able to do, accomplish what we did at that, against that kind of hockey was, was spectacular. Every one of us look back and go, man, that was awesome. But we'd all like to play in today's, there's a, maybe a little less battle they're still wearing terror but that wearing terror of like you know the battle battle battle battle in corners battle battle battle battle in front of the net you know the battle battle battle battle battle is looking over your

shoulder not getting head hunted you know Mike boss he's and we just chuckled ourselves like heads up duck watch out eyes behind the back but we were each other's eyes and we kind of like we all protected each other you know somebody like and it was it was it was great like with big Clark Dillies on the left side the big brother who was

nobody touched us and Somebody did, and he come, and he was angry. I think he got mad or if they beat, they hit us, then he did, if they did him. He loved that about him. We have such love for the big boy, but he is, you don't have the kind of success you have without having that kind of caring about each other, you know.

And I think, you know, Clark knew his role. I knew my role. Mike knew his role. And Mike never put Clark in a position, you know, to, oh, protect my butt. you know, it was always somebody taking a run at him. And Clark, we all know what a run at somebody is and what it is. And if somebody hit Mike and it was clean, no big deal. So someone took a run at him.

Uh-oh. Our whole team got angry. I remember Bobby Nicer jumped over the boards one time. Ben Wilson was up against, and Clark was in the penalty box. And over the boards come Bobby Nicerum. So the whole team, you know, Billy Smith, out of the net. Don't pick out Mike Boss. And it was just really kind of fun to have that kind of the team concept at that time.

You know, you do it nowadays. I think everybody does it to a degree, but not to the degree that we did it back in the 70s and 80s. Who's the toughest bastard you ever played against if you get the number one? With the toughest, strongest that I ever faced. On defense, Larry Robinson. Like Larry Robinson, Montreal Canadiens, six foot, he looked like six foot 10, but he's probably six foot four, six foot five, you know, 220 pounds. and just really lean a gentleman but tough.

And if you want to get nasty and mean, I'll get mean and he was as tough as anybody in the league. And we had great respect for Larry, but Larry would take me out and literally lift me off the ice, like grab me by the armpits, lift me off the ice so your legs are dangling in the air, and then bang me against the glass, so I'm pressed against the glass.

I imagine the people that are watching my face, you know, like smeared against the glass, are laughing. Oh, that poor kid. And then gently let me down or drop me and then pick me up. You okay, little guy?

That's aggravating. That's aggravating when you're a little guy. And he's a monster. You can't do anything about it. You know, I try to get a little bump on him is like, you know, a flea hit and an elephant. And he just kind of like, what are you trying to do to me there? Little guy?

And I'm like, I'm payback, you know, but it didn't. It didn't work. He was tough to play against. Long reach. You know, he poked check. You had to go around him, try to get around him. and just a real gentleman on the ice. You know, like, don't play dirty.

I'll play clean. But he didn't know how strong he was. And a couple of times, well, a couple, it seemed like every time. It was just like you're going nowhere. And, you know, if I want to really hurt you, I could. Larry was my toughest, my toughest opponent, probably. Face to face, center ice. Darrell Sittler, 60 minute game.

Mark Bessie had a little nastiness to him. A lot of respect for Mark. There were some players, you know, you love playing against, whether there's Mary Lemieux. You know, the purest were really fun, Joe Bear Perra. The guys that were, like, stick handling genius, they were a challenge. But, you know, I really enjoyed that Marcel Dion. Like, there's some great players that I played against that I got great respect for. Coming in to the league, Stan McKita, first face off, I win the draw.

And I'm like, all right, I beat Stan McLeod on face off. All of a sudden, it's like Zorro in my face. You know, he's like, you know, like he almost, Jacques Lamer, cut me for like six stitches after. face off one time. I'm taking every face off after. I'm like at the end of the lesson learned. We talk to a lot of golfers that have grown up playing professional golf in the Tiger Woods era. And we always ask like, you know, like, do you think of Tiger Woods differently being a player and an opponent? Or do you have the same respect for him as the fans do, right? Like, we all think of Tiger Woods as the greatest. So with Gretzky, being on the ice with them at the same

time like did you guys as players like have the same respect at this at at the time as the fans did like did you guys notice what was going on at like in real time yeah what wayne was wayne was tripped like he was a little stealth like he was hard guy to find on the ice and keep your eye on because he was just always finding hole making himself available and then putting pucks to holes and and finding players that you know very instinctively and very creative um genius like in that sense. You know, we didn't marvel him. We respected him, but we didn't marvel him. You

marveled him too much. You sit in there, you become a fan. Right. And, you know, you watch him versus playing against him. You want to compete hard against him. You know, Wayne's a special kid, like he's only five years younger than me, but we thought of him at the time. Like, he's 19, 20, 21 years old,

and we're like 25, 26 years old, big deal. And like we're saying, wow, what skill? What an amazing you know, numbers he's putting up? for just not a big man, but, you know, a slinky little, you know, skilled athletic stinker who like just got things done with his little arms, his little legs, and boom, he was, he's a terrific, and he's a terrific, what an ambassador for the game. Like you talk about great ambassadors of the game, you know, Gordy House and Jean Bellavut. Like Wayne took it on his shoulders and he, you know,

he always said the greatest things about his teammates, respect for the opposition, the game of hockey. and so I hold Wayne way up there and I loved his dad. You know, Walter to me was, you know, Walter, if he was walking on one side of the street and I was on the other side, he wouldn't wave to you. He'd trot across the street and come and visit with you. Wow. And I love that about Walter because he would tell me stories about not Wayne, but his family. And so that to me was Walter.

And I think Wayne carries that Walter in him a lot because he, you know, I've had a chance to, do a couple all-star games or some events with Wayne. And he loves to laugh. He's a great team-oriented guy. You know, as greatest of his individual skills are, Walter was always so proud that his assists were like double what his goal scoring was because he was always spreading the wealth. You know, he had that capability of like, you know,

making everybody around him that much better. So, yeah, no, the great players, we have great respect for, the Mario Lemieux, you know, obviously, like there's just so many. Bobby, when I was a kid, I wanted to be Bobby. I was a defenseman. I was too small to be Bobbyo. I wanted to be Jean Belable.

I was too short to be Jean Belvoir. And all of a sudden I play with Mario Lemieux. He becomes my Jean Belable. Here's this guy who's graceful and sleek and just, you know, just carries himself with grace on the ice. I'm like, oh, man, I wish I could do that. You know, but that's, we want to be something and we strive to be that. but we have such great respect for those that can do and those that achieve, you know, looking like that. And, you know, I didn't have a lot of dynamic to me.

I just wanted to win. And I tell my kids, and I tell, you know, students when I go to schools, I'm like, you know, like, you can YouTube me. I might get a sneaky little goal here and there, but there was nothing dynamic. I didn't stick handle through six players, you know, and falling down, you know, over the shoulder shot, went over the goalies. But it was just kind of like, oh, a little chink shot that kind of found a hole. and I did that a lot and found ways to help my team win. And that's all I wanted to do. And I think for that, I think I've gotten a little respect over the years as far as like, you know,

just achieving my own little niche of respectability amongst the NFL grades. You deserve it, man. We've rattled off those stats before. But, I mean, it's the boys, my boys. 1,353 points. Are you kidding me? I mean, that's nothing to sneeze at, as the kids say nowadays. After a long day on the kids.

course. Did we just, does anybody guess that we just had one of those? Can you tell you want to tell? They can probably tell. Trent's got his shoes off right now. He's been really, he's been doubling over. You know, it's a long day when I just can't stand still. You know what I mean? Yeah, because your legs are like,

dude, we're, we're just, sit there on. If you stop moving, you're going to fall. You ever look around, especially with this job and just be like, how the fuck, where are we right now? Yeah. I've thought about that all the time. I did that all day today. Dude, I'm like looking around and I see these like these Silhouette, dark-ass fucking really high Tori Pine trees and all these Cypress trees.

And I'm like, are we recording a podcast standing around with Trent and his shoes off at Tori Pines in like San Diego, California? It's crazy. Like we're just flying tomorrow, home back to New York. What's happening right now? What's the moon? What are we talking about? Where's the food up? Well, you know what you really need after a long day like that?

It was a long day after that? Is you got to get a healthy meal in you. You got to get some food. We're all talking about that right now. Is this trifecta? This is trifecta. Dude, I'm on the trifecta train. Is that something that they talk about?

You know what they should? Because it's a little alliteration. I am on the trifecta train. I get home. It's busy. It's been a busy day. I was out there golfing, doing a little G with my pal, Trent. I come home.

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Delivered food? 40% off? Can we have to have a conversation with trifecta on like how to run their I'm sure where their map is, but it's good for you guys. I would love to sit down at a table with these guys. Shop meal plans and get 40% off with code 4 at trifectinutrition.com slash 4. 40% off. Dude, and they ship it in like freezer containers and shit.

Right, that's expensive. It's so expensive. We mentioned golf a little bit. This is a golf podcast. How's the game? You get out and play a lot? I play golf like the Sutter family plays hockey. I squash and whack.

I just love to. I love to. just slashed the ball and whack the ball. And I tease my Sutter family because they're such good friends. And they look at me like, and I've seen them play golf. And they play worse golf than me. Oh, would I say that about their hockey? They were competitor.

But, no, I can, I probably a 15 to an 8, on a really good day, I can be a 12. If they moved the T's up, I can be a 10. There you go. The back tease, I'm at 25. I played with Pierre LaRouche and Mary Lumieux, and they're like scratch golfers, and they laugh because they play the tips. And I can't get over the trouble to get to the fairway on the other side.

I kind of try to keep it in playing. When I try to swing hard, I don't know where the ball's going. It might be a worm burner. It might be a duck hook. It might be a banana. And they just drop one on the other side. They just chuckle. And I'm like, I'm by the green.

I chip close, one putt, and we have the hole. And they're like, we hate it. you. Like I can par a hole that way or I can bogey get a shot and part and and have the hole. So and it is fun, but no, I really enjoy the game. I'm kind of a contact hitter when it comes to the game of golf. I try to hit the ball on the face of the club, try to keep it and play. And I don't try to overswing. And the fortunate thing is I'm so jealous of the guys that are righty in hockey and righty in golf. So I'm a lefty in hockey. And then I'm a lefty in hockey. I can only play right of golf.

I try to play lefty golf. I can't even put lefty. I don't even come close to the pole lefty. And I put righty, and I'm kind of around the hole at least, give myself a chance. And so I'm a little bit jealous of the righty, righty guys versus me,

the lefty righty guy in golf. But I have a blast playing with my buds. We have a great time. They chuckle at me, you know, because I played with a guy. He was a scratch golfer and I was 19, 20 years old. I'm playing.

I play with Bob Hope. I played with some celebrities, you know, good golfers. I was 19, 20 years old. And, you know, I'm kind of the hockey celebrity playing with a real, you know, movie star celebrity. And they're entertaining.

And I'm just sweating bullets, just trying to keep not kill anybody who's like looking in the fairway watching Brian Trache swing the club. If I play with a guy, his name was Warren Amadola, he taught me a lot about golf. I played him two or three times. He gave me the, you know, the bullet points of golf. You know, head down, you know, swing through the ball.

Don't try to lift it up. All those basic. you know, I needed to hear when I was beginning. And he was like a member at the Huntington Crescent Club. He said, I think I shot 130 that day. And I was so proud because I think I had like four great shots all day. And he was just so encouraging all day. And he goes, at the end of it, he goes, Brian, I want to thank you.

I've been a member at this golf course for 23 years. And I've seen parts of this golf course. I've never said it. Took him on the tour. I think there's an alligator over there. I don't know. There's not alligators over it. But, you know, but it's a fun game, isn't it?

It's really, it's a time to bond. It's a time to tease each other at the same time. You know, a guy hits a shot. Everybody celebrates. I love that your golf game equates to your hockey game a little bit, where you kind of scramble, get the ball in the hole, like you're saying. You used to look for just the holes in the goalie. Just throw it at the net and see if it goes in.

Something good will happen. I saw Kenny Moore. We're playing Dakota Dunes in Saskatoon. We're at training camp for the Islanders. So five or six of us, veteran, Islanders come up there, you know, and we get to hang out with them for a week. And it's really fun because we can play golf during the day, go to the hockey hockey rink and watch the kids play and eat dinner with them.

And we couldn't thank the Islander enough because it's really an opportunity to blend and kind of share some of our experiences with some of the new Islanders. And to crisscross, you know, Islander basically legends with the young kids coming up, it was really a great opportunity. So we all go out. We're playing a five-some. There's Kenny Morrow, myself, Butch Goring. Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom.

And we're playing a part three, and it's like 165 yards. And, you know, Clark Gillies hits a wedge. I hit like a five wood. Kenny Morrow hits like this five iron, and it does like this one hop. And Butch Goyer is looking through his binocchio. He goes, I think it has a chance in like three hops into the hole for a whole. No, no. Oh, yeah.

So Kenny Morrow's won four Stanley Cups, a gold medal. Yeah, his four years. I've talked about, he had the best four years in the history of professional sports. He won the Miracle 1980 team. Went out to win four straight cups immediately. The guy didn't know anything but losing. I know he's got grandkids.

He's got two beautiful daughters, the son. And I've never seen him so excited. Oh. A bad knee. He's hopping around. I said, Kenny, be careful that knee. I don't care. He's out of the blood.

A hole in one will do that to you. You celebrate like you never celebrated. before. Oh, man. That's a guy who needs more respect in today's, you know, when we think back to Islander hockey players and the greats. Ken Morrow, I think, is, I met Ken a couple times and he couldn't be a nicer guy. And when you watch back, all those great plays, like the tritees to the nice drums,

Ken was right there with you guys. And he was, he was such an integral part of your guys' championship core dynasty. Well, we called, I called him the long arm of the law. Like, he's a yanked. like we called him, like there was a couple of Yankees on the team. And it was really kind of fun to have Kenny back there because he's so unassuming. You can't get under his skin.

You can't like tease him. You know, like he was a wolf man because he like had a hair all over his body. And he was just like this, this happy guy who was just unassuming, but he was quicker than people thought. He was stronger than people thought. He was more skilled than people thought. And he always made the simple play look, you know, unspectacular, but it was the smartest play.

And we loved him because of that. And so, like, and Kenny's just that guy that just wants to be a part of something great. And, you know, we know why he was part of that miracle on ice now, because he was back there dependable, you know, poised, you know, never, never rattled, you know, take a hit to make a play, you know, make the simple play versus the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the dramatic play. And, you know, he was capable of scoring the big goals. He scored some big goals for us, you know, and key times, you know, that kind of either won the game in overtime

or sealed the game when they pulled their goalie. Guys hanging all great and all in Kenny with a bad knee going down the eye. Taping the puck. His arms are so long tapping the puck ahead of somebody. And we're all like, who is the puck going to make it over the line? You know, he's like, and everybody's racing for it to see. He just slides in. That's so Kenny.

and like so when we won the cup the first time i bobby nice and scores you know and it's mayhem yeah overtime long island the place goes crazy i'm gonna cry everybody jumps over the board i'm exhausted that moment you're champion exhaustion hit me like like a brick so i go to jump over the boards and my foot hits the top of the boards i trip and i tumble fall and who's picking me up is kenny morrow oh man and kenny's got like we won the cup i'm like Kenny i'm so tired of I know, but we won the cup. Like, Kenny, your equipment stinks. Like, you know, your senses peaked and you can probably smell of equipment.

Oh, God, Kenny. But that's the fun of it. And, you know, Kenny and I had to laugh about it today. He's like, oh, do you remember that time you told me my equipment stinks, right? The moment we was in Stanley Cup. I'm like, yes, I remember. It's still, it's a vivid smell in my nose. Right.

But, you know, like Kenny's, Kenney and I shared a lot of fun times together. God, he's a terrific human being. So that first cup win is included in your NFT collection. first cup win, four in a row is another one. Everyone's got to head to brian trotier.com. You can check all those out. I will be probably the highest bidder on all of them after talking to you today. I mean, it's been an honor.

It's been a pleasure. I hope to catch an Islander game with you one of these days. How do you feel about this team this year? I mean, it's got to be, I know we've had you for long enough, but it's got to feel good seeing that the franchise has turned around a little bit. There was some dark days when I was, you know, I've got to every single game I can remember. and I've seen some Dark Islander days,

so it's been fun to watch this team. How do you feel about it? Well, before we close, we want to thank your family for being a part of our history. I mean, it's a really fun, fun times that we've got a chance to share with your family. But for me, the Islanders today, Matt Barzel,

you look at their goal-tending, you look at the coaching, you look at Lou La Marello, what he's done in the culture, you look at what they have to look forward to with Belmont. You look at their back at Nassau Coliseum, and the crais is, It's crazy.

I mean, I'm just like the atmosphere there. So they got a taste of that. And I think that helped. All those things helped. And so we're really proud. They're scrappy team. You know,

they got four lines that come at you. They never give up. So, yeah, they're going to be, I think they're a team that's going to be reckoned with. And, you know,

my other pesky little penguins are right there again. There you go. You've got those Colorado avalanche and McKinnon out there. There's some teams that I pulled for because I was part of their organization. and so yeah no my islanders i'm i'm very very proud people say oh and the island

who do you play for pull for i'm like the home team i want to go home happy you know i want the fans to say be cheering their and it gives me a sense of being you know a little diplomatic but it's true i pull for the fans i pull for the home team because win or lose you know i'm going to go home winter because i'm kind of pulling for both teams i'm pulling for a great game i don't want to blow out one way or another. I like to see Crosby get a hat trick, Marsell get a hat trick, the fans be happy, goaltenders, you know, too bad for you. You don't get shut out. But at the same time, there's that thrill of hockey,

you know, like the intensity, the competition, all that fun stuff that people enjoy. When they go, the fans go to see the game, they want to see excitement. And I, my little islanders and penguins right now are not leaving that, that glass half full. It's a full cup when people go home. I love it. I love it. Well, thank you again, Brian. It's been about 50 minutes here, so I can't thank you enough. It's been a highlight of my career.

There's no doubt about it. When you're having fun, 50 minutes goes by and a snap. That's right. That was great fun. Hey, continue success, guys. Look forward to being a guest anytime. Like I said, all it takes an invite. Thank you so much.

You're going to wish you never said that because we're going to be, you may just be the next host of the show. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you, Brian. Thanks.