Fore Play - Name Drop

Episode Date: October 5, 2021

Lurch had lunch with MJ (like, the real Jumpman 23) and watched football at Justin Thomas’ house. Frankie had surgery. Riggs gave a speech at Oakmont’s famed SWAT party. Date Trent emerged and may permanently replace Trent Ryan. All this plus Bones is leaving TV to caddie full-time for JT, Bubba and Ted Scott split up, Bryson shined at the World Long Drive and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, we're by Barstool Sports. Interesting noises coming from Frankie before we even started. So I imagine this is going to be interesting show. He's got bandages. He had surgery since the last time that we met. But anyways, gentlemen.

Lurch is going to join. He obviously has a lot to talk about. He posted a picture of Michael Jordan. And then he told us, we're going to record it too. and then he said he can't record it too, so he's just going to jump whenever he jumps in. But anyways, hello, Trent and Frankie, how are you? I'm doing well.

All my whole body works. Does it? Yeah, well, for generally just how it normally is. I haven't been cut open within the last week or anything, so I'm doing pretty well. How are you, Frankie? I'm recovering. Yeah.

Actively recovering. If I sound a little nasally, I got a little nasal drip going out as well. I'm falling apart. You sound nasally. You sound nasally, I would say. I'm falling apart. I am.

I had surgery on Wednesday. day. It was a very stressful Tuesday. Almost canceled the surgery. I don't know if anyone saw on stool scenes, but a lot of things came up with possibility of a concert being put right at the end of October, which I wouldn't have been able to make. And we thought about canceling the surgery. I called my surgeon. He said, you just can't cancel it. You're nervous completely fucked. We got to have surgery. The reason why we have surgery tomorrow is because you need it. So that really spoke a lot about my brain and what I go through every single day. The fact that I actively tried to cancel that over a pup punk cover band show.

Yeah, like it was like a dinner reservation that you had with a couple of people you weren't sure you wanted to go. I'm just going to cancel that. Right, no, that wasn't very good. So I ended up going through with the surgery. I still don't know the name of it. It's the ulnar nerve transposition, I believe that's what it's called.

It's not Tommy John, though. No, so they go in, they get the ulnar nerve. It's entrapped. It's tangled. It could be even dead at some points if you're not. actively trying to release it. Basically, it's this nerve. It gets caught in the elbow where it bends. Everyone's felt their funny bone get hit and you feel that tingling feeling in your ring finger, your pinky finger, your arm goes numb. Essentially, I was having that 24-7 of like that ringing feeling, waking up, complete dead arm. So they go in, they make an incision. I don't know how much it is.

I haven't seen it yet. He's got me wrapped up like a mummy. You haven't seen the scar or anything. No. I don't know why I'm wrapped up to the hands. hand. So maybe that's a what's up doc. I haven't seen the doctor since he opened me up. So I'll see him on Thursday. Okay. Um, so yeah, went in, um, I went under anesthesia. That was a, that was a whole thing. Like knowing you're about to fall asleep was a weird feeling. I was actively saying in my head, you're about to fall asleep right now. You're about to fall asleep right now. You're about to fall sleep right now. Which I don't think you should be doing for your mental help. After Rick, so, so, graciously last week, um, went through all the things that can happen while you're under, like,

uh, waking up and not being able to say anything. That was a, uh, I'm sure that was one of your thoughts crossing your head. Well, look, it's, there are people that that happens to. I'm not saying, it's unlikely, but I just was saying that you had the same amount of chance that they had, and it just happened to them. So I wanted people to be aware of that. I felt better when I saw how much of a production this was. Like, I was basically a person in line on an amusement park, right?

So I'm in the little pre-op room, and I'm all prepped. You know, I've got the bib on. And they made me stripped down to nothing. except for my Tommy Johns, which I thought, I was like, this is an elbow surgery. I don't know why. I don't know why my peepee had to be out. But like, you know, so essentially I'm sitting there. I got the IV going and, you know, we're sitting there watching TV waiting for it to go inside.

And everyone in the room, I'm hearing Dr. Bennett Brown. By the way, shout out Dr. Bennett Brown. He's a hot doctor. There's no, there's no two ways around it. He's like a guy that should have been cast in Grey's Anatomy. You know, he took me, when he walks over in his little surgical outfit, he had me hook line and sinker. I was staring in his eyes being like cut me open.

Is that making more or less confident? More or less confident. Oh, I was extremely confident. You know, it was crazy. Like, this guy has just got it all. He's got it all. If you need this surgery, you go see Dr. Brown. He's just the man.

See, my head would say nobody can have it all. He has all. He is so good looking that some other skill has to deteriorate, and it might be him as a surgeon. He was talking to me about the Ryder Cup as I was going under. Like, literally was in the, I don't want that. I don't want that.

I want this guy like he's Stop watching TV and get in those medical books. He's like some hot guy who can like get girls and watch his rider cup. I want him like some dweeb who only does medicine and surgery. I think the last thing I heard was like, how about Bryson on one on Sunday? I was just like, oh. And there's just like over.

I was just, I was swooning. But it's a, everyone around me was also doing the same thing. And a lot of them had the same surgery as me. And you could, you just tell that like you are one of like 10 people that are going to go through this today. You're going to be fine.

And guys were getting wheeled in before I was. I was just one in the line of 10. And he just, I guess, bounces from room to room and just fixes people's elbow. I don't know his day. And his day of work is nuts. The fact that, like, that's his day where all these guys, he walks into rooms. All these people are just knocked out cold with their arms fucking split open. And he just fixes them and then walks to the next one and does that.

That to me is nuts. That's a different day than ours. Much different day than ours. So, yeah, you know, recovering. I'm wrapped up like a mummy. Oh, a little bubble. A little bubble. A little frog in your throat. And we're on the road to recovery.

I have some nice range of motion at only, what do we, five days after surgery, six days. I was surprised to see you this morning and you not be in a sling. Yeah. It's the nerve. So it's like, yeah, it feels uncomfortable. I can't bend it yet. But the fact that there's no, like, I don't know, tendons or ligaments that were torn. Like, I really can, I can move it around.

You did say that the surgeon or the doctor said afterwards that it was two times worse than originally. that they originally thought. He called my girlfriend who was the one who was able to, she was taking care of me. Like, she got the phone call from him. And he said, like, that was a lot worse than we had seen in like the EKG or the EMG, whatever the, I guess the EMG. To see how messed up it was. When he got in there, it was super tied up and deep. So I wasn't lying. I had elbow pain. And the most fucked up part is I sense this left arm coming because I've been using a lot of left arms. this week, wiping my ass, playing around with myself, trying to do all the things I can with my left arm. How is showering?

Showering was an experience. I can't. So I couldn't wash my underarm of the healthy arm because I just couldn't get there. So I'm fucking trying to figure it out. I had to shower with a goddamn garbage bag on my right arm. And I'm in there and it's hitting the garbage bag. It's making that noise that you can probably hear in your head right now. It's like hitting the garbage bag and it was chaos.

and I'm trying to get under there with fucking soap and I'm screaming. I was like, hello, is anyone out there? And like, my girlfriend comes in and I just, I just leaned my arm out. I'm like, just soap my armpit. It was like, it was bad, dude. God. I couldn't even wipe my ass.

Trying to wipe your ass with the other hand is tough. Well, you have so much experience with the other hand. 28 years? I thought about just giving up and just not doing it. Like, it was, I mean, I didn't, though. I know that's chaos. I thought about just going ankles to ears in my sink and just letting my mommy do it.

But maybe she just takes to fucking, she takes the faucet, runs it down there like I was when I was a one-year-old. You know, hit me with some baby powder. I definitely feel worse for the people around you than I do for you. You guys know how I am. I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, we've said it before you're Michael Scott with the lawful iron when he burns his foot. I'm dramatic. I'm dramatic.

And I love to be the one who's being taken care of. I fucking milk the shit out of it. I will admit, like this was a pretty serious. Well, you like birthdays. It's like the birthday, everyone's focused. on you and you're hurt, everybody's taking care of you. Yep, yep, yeah, I enjoy it. But what you're saying is that the left arm, the left elbow is soon to come.

Yeah, I feel it. There's something about my, maybe my bony structure, but I know that that nerve is pinched, too. So I'm destined for that room again with Dr. Bennett Brown. I am destined for it. On Thursday, when I see him, I'm going to be like, let's just schedule on the next one, pal. Let's just get this all over with. And let's just have two arms and mummy slings and let's just go on. So, yeah, I'm excited to see how the process goes of getting this nerve back.

because, I mean, it feels good right now, but it's definitely, like, I mean, my fingers are still numb as fuck. So we'll see. I don't, hopefully I can just grip a golf club soon and, like, start to swing. I don't know. I don't know what that's going to feel like. I'm happy for you. I'm happy that you're on the road to recover. Thanks.

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Then again, it's also a dangerous kind of time to be. You don't know what's going to come out. So curious how you have. feeling after so i wasn't knocked out for too long um i was out for like an hour or maybe an hour and a half maybe two hours the process is the the actual surgery is not too long i think it's like 30 to 45 minutes um so i don't think i was as knocked out as i wanted to be like afterwards like i would have liked to kind of be on you know floating around seeing unicorns and shit but i was definitely out of it a little bit like giggling in the car um just happy and i know that my family all said

that I was like very, very mellow and not as tense. Like when someone asked me a question or something or they were just talking about things that they wanted to talk about that I didn't usually like to hear about at the dinner table. I was very receptive to conversation. I was more of a human, I think, on drugs. So I know that you guys have often questioned how I would do on hallucinogens or things like that. Yeah, we've always thought, we always wanted you to take an edible, marijuana edible, and it could go one of two ways. one, it goes the way that it sounds like these drugs went where you're more calm, cool, and collected.

These were pain meds, by the way. Yeah, it's different. It's different. Or you go the other way where you're just how you are normally, just to the 18th degree, and that would be a bit of a nightmare. I found out that I was nicer. I could see that. Yeah.

I just think that my brain is so jaded from the last like five or six years here in New York City, this job, like running around, being a task guy. Like, my brain's just always been a hundred miles and out. hour. I think that was the first time I was like shut off. Sorry for interrupting you, Frankie, but I could see it being much like your golf swing. Like your brain goes too fast, I think. And your golf swing sometimes your tempo is too fast.

If you slow down, it actually I feel like could orient your brain and your thoughts in a more, a kinder and also just more sensible way. So I don't, I feel like that's actually, that checks out. It totally checks out. I'm trying to do that with more things in my life. Just go slower. I'm trying to speak slower. I'm trying to do this podcast slower.

You know, I'm a guy that I like to learn. I like to advance. I like to change myself, you know? Yeah. I just sometimes think I run down those hills and I go too fast. I got to take my time sometimes. Right. If you just take it slow, talk slow today.

You sound very confident. Yeah, today I don't know if anyone's already noticed it in the first 10 minutes of this show, but I'm approaching this differently today. Do you think there's any drug residual because of that? Possibly. You've just seen a new light and you want to try to be that way. Yeah, I mean, I think I'll still get that fire, right? Like, I'm still going to have that fire in me.

I'm still going to want to get crazy and excited. But I know, I know that the person that people saw when I was, when I had the brakes on a little bit, they liked better, which was unfortunate. You know? Yeah. Yeah, fortunately and unfortunately for us. My mom was like, oh, we can talk to you. Right. I was like, what is that fucking?

You're better off. You're better off for us as a crazy person. But we all know. Let's put you in a car that lurch behind the wheel. And then the thing will change. Definitely. Yes. Please.

Thank you. Let's check your cobwebs out. This show needs you at your worst for the show to be its best. And I don't think that I'm fixed. I think this is just day one of me trying a new world. We all know I crash and burn everything I try and do. Right. Like if you start walking around like, I cannot believe I can't think of his name in the movie,

but his name is Ron Livingston in office space where when he goes to that shrink and the shrink dies and he's not able to pull him out of it. I need to be snapped out. Right, we got to snap you out of it. What's his name of that movie? Peter? Yeah. Peter, how's it going?

Yeah. So you might just be in those early stages of that and then you'll eventually hopefully come out of it. Yeah. No, I'm good. Once I get out of this mummy suit, I'll be fine. What's your timetable here? What's your recovery time table? Well, I told them originally that I had to do something at the

end of November, like golf related. And they said that they felt pretty damn confident that I'd be able to do it. I just may be painful. So, yeah, they were confident. Dr. Bennett Brown was confident in me possibly being able to play a concert October 21st. He saw no restrictions in my ability to move. Now would it hurt like a motherfucker? Yes.

But restrictions is what I'm trying to get rid of. I can't fucking, I can't like pick my nose if I wanted to. I can't lift my hand up to my fucking. the mouth just yet. Oh, you can't. Okay. No. My question, when you were talking about the potential thing that was happening in October, the concert, like my question for the doctor would have been, can I do it after the surgery? Is it going to make it any worse or is it just going to be pain? Right. And did you get an answer? I think that they basically had just agreed with my stupid rationale and they were like,

I guess, yeah, it would just be pain. Like, because I said, wouldn't I rather play on a surgically repaired painful arm than a non-surgically repaired painful arm. And he was like, I guess, yeah, I guess that makes sense. But he's like, you're an idiot. As long as you don't make... Just don't play the drones. As long as you don't make it worse, I don't see the downside except for the excruciating pain. I don't know when it comes to nerves.

I've gotten a lot of DMs from people that said that they know the surgery I went into and that there's going to be a couple things I have to do to get this nerve back into motion, which I actually have to DM this guy back. Another thing I would like, if you do play the drums, uh, I think we should put like a local microphone right next to you that we just have the audio of afterwards of you just like whimpering the whole time. And groaning and moaning. Yeah. I said you should have, and you guess you still could, you sit on in front of the drum set and you put your arms behind your back and you have a real drummer behind you and they just do it.

Like they used to do that as like a comedy bit where maybe on whose line is it anywhere or whatever and they'd make Sundays. Great show. It is a great show. And they'd throw it in his face. Like you could just do that with the drums and it would be funny and it would, you know, you wouldn't be out of the loop with pop punk. Yeah, I got a lot of DMs too because all, and we don't have to talk about my fucking elbow for an hour here on this golf podcast. And I got a lot of people saying like, I don't care about Frankie's elbow anymore on stool scenes. It was like the first fucking 30 minutes of stool scenes.

So there's been a lot of elbow content at Barstles Sports this week. We're going to get to the knee next. We're going to get to the knee next. But the reason why I cared so much about pop punk, I got a lot of tweets about this being like, why the fuck do you care about some dumb concerts? It's like, hey guys, like, if you've ever played a. an instrument in your entire life or you've ever done anything or have gone to a concert, why wouldn't you want to be a part of a simulation where you're a rock star for two hours, where you get to go to massive music venues, step up behind a drum kit,

and play songs that you love, people in the crowd love, and you get to like legitimately be a, it's like a make-a-wish rock star for two hours. You think I'm going to actively try and not do that? At Barcelona Sports, we get these simulation feelings where it's like, oh, Did you grow up watching Mike Tyson and like all these great boxers? Do you want to step into a ring with like walkout music and step up in like a prized, ridiculous $100,000 fight on fight night and pay-per-view? Like is that something that you'd ever want to do? It's like obviously, oh, Barstall Sports.

Here's the place that you can do it. Have you ever gone to a concert and want to like hit the fucking bass drum and the lights go crazy and like confetti comes flying out of the stage and people are screaming and throwing their panty hose at you? Sure. Yeah, let's do it. Let's sign up. Well, Barstle Sports has that for you. Why would I actively try and miss that? So when I heard that there was possibly a concert, two concerts, one in Denver, Colorado, and one in Chicago.

Like, I mean, this was going to be fucking multi across the country type shit that we're going to be doing, traveling to go play pop punk. I wanted to be a part of it. So I didn't want to miss it like in college when we played rock band two and we got to the higher stages where you play six days. I didn't want to miss that because we would rotate drummers. We'd rotate different positions. We had like eight guys. if you got like kicked out of one of those for one of the big shows we'd be rattled for like a week

also i know the way this place works and like the whole smitty thing right smitty got shoulder surgery and then i became the drummer like the storyline was too perfect for me to get elbow surgery and he becomes the drummer again and i'm way too protective of that drum kit right now it may sound weird it may sound fucking childish i fucking love it it's something i actually love there's not many things i love in this world anymore i'm very dark i'm very twisted i'm very fucked up i love the drums Yeah. I think that's fair. All fair. I'm glad you're surgically repaired. We're all rooting for the safe and speedy recovery for you, Frank. Thank you very much, guys. What if also now I just hit like sick baby cuts and stuff?

Like, what if I'm like unreal at all? That first post-surgery round is going to be interesting. I wonder because it's my leading hand, like if it's going to change my swing, maybe I'm like, I don't know. That's what I was thinking maybe I hit cuts now because I'm going to be like coming in with my back hand and like my, my first. my leading hand's not going to be as strong, so I'm not going to be like turning over as much. I'm going to do more of like the Bubba finish where it's like... Yeah.

Out over my head. I saw him picture my new swing being like the Bubba twirl at the top and like I hit these sick fucking fades. I hope so. All right. Your injured game over the last couple weeks right before you had surgery was some of the best game. I've ever seen your hat, really. I said that to, was it you, Trent, where I said I just don't want to get the surgery because I'm just just playing decent golf right now. I'm having fun playing the game of golf. And I don't know why I'm

actively trying to miss this now. That's another thing. Like, yeah, I love playing the drums. I also love playing golf and we're playing a lot of golf. We just got off a band and dunes trip. We just went to the Ryder Cup. And now just golf's done for me for two months. So that sucks. Who knows how my game's going to be? Am I ever going to hit irons like that again? I was striping balls. I was taking divvits. Like, am I ever going to do that again? Is my arm just going to hurt? I don't know. Fuck you. Time will tell. I don't know. Bailey Farms.

Bailey Farms tonight. I did not play well there. Tuesday night. You can check out on YouTube the final installment from our Michigan travel series. We obviously spent three days at Forest Dunes. We checked out everything they got there. We documented that well. And then right before we took off, we went up and played Bailey Farms.

Completely different public track owned by what is the guy, 24 years old, him and his girlfriend and their family. welcome to us. Their staff welcomed us. They're excited to have us. And we played, you know, there's like cherry trees on property. It's kind of a farm. It's up by Travers City. It was really, really cool and a completely different experience in Forest Dunes. And people can watch tonight 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on our YouTube page, which you should be subscribed to, Bailey Farms, boys. It's going to be one of the better videos that you've seen, especially stuff of us off the course. We end up going back to his lakehouse and we played that game. What the fuck was the name of that game?

Oh, man. I can't remember. You have to watch the video. It's the game where you combine beer dye and cornhole, where you throw this slow-pitched softball into the cornhole set, the hole. But we have that on videotape. I mean, we're on Lake Michigan. Right? It was Lake Michigan.

Yeah. We're on Lake Michigan. The views were out of this fucking world. That video is going to be so much fun to watch because it's just different. Like, we're playing a new game that we invent. with cherries. So you guys can take that home to your local matches. And when you play out with your buddies, what do we call it?

We just call it cherries. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff in this video. It's taken a while to come out. We did a lot of traveling. So for our editors, it was hard for them to get it out one week after the last one from Michigan. So I'm excited for this one. I did not play well. So breaking news, if you're looking to watch me play, probably the worst golf you see me play on video.

Tonight's the one. Yeah, you did not play well. I'm remembering now that you... Yeah. Yeah, down the stretch. I couldn't hit the ball. No. It's an interesting course, though.

It's different than I think probably any other course that we've ever played. It's a cool place, though. Very hilly. A lot of elevation. And I think if you go to that area, if you guys try and do like our route of Northern Michigan golf, like if people try and copy it, I think you will add Bailey Farms after watching tonight to your list. You should. It's a really, really, really, really fun.

Super unique. Yeah, it's kind of the... It was a little bit more of the people's option around the area that a lot of folks recommended it to us. And then they reached out and we realized very quickly that a lot of people that go up there, that maybe they're not going to go to an Arcadia or Forest Dunes or one of the more expensive resort courses. You go over to Bailey Farms, a very common move, and you get an enormous bang for your buck there. So people are going to like it. It's a little different.

And then we get the whole Lake Michigan part at the end, like I said. We got a Sim 2 driver, Taylor Made giveaway coming up. So pay attention to our social channels. We're going to be giving away a SIM 2 driver. You want one of those because it's an absolute weapon. And then we got a lot to get to on the topical front. We've got Bryson, obviously at the World Long Drive. We've got multiple caddy shakeups, J.T. and Bubba Watson.

So we're going to get to that. First, I was talking about my weekend. I had a crazy weekend where I went to Pittsburgh, played Oakmont on Friday. Now, I got invited several months ago. If people recall, we went to Oakmont before we played the old Stonewall. for the Barstle Classic. Myself and Kisner and a few of his crew, a few people from our crew, Ian and Nick,

that work on the Classic. We had a nice whole day. Well, that same kind of crew set me up with some of the folks at Oakmont, and they invited me to come to their annual SWAT party, which was this past Friday, play in their SWAT game, which is pretty famous, which I'll talk about,

and then give a funny storytelling speech to the Oakmont membership Friday night. Nightmare. which I was obviously extremely, extremely nervous about, but tried to act like I wasn't. So I want to talk a little bit first about Okman. So I remember like 2016 when they had the U.S. Open there, Dustin Johnson won. They did like this two-minute segment on Golf Channel like Tim Rosefort did about the SWAT game, which I really didn't know much about, but it's pretty famous in golf lore.

And if you're really deep in the private clubs and the prestige and all that. And the Oakmont Swat game is the membership plays three days a week. They do anywhere between like four and sevensums. And they just play one low best ball gross out of your group. And then you play a match against every other group that's on the course. You might have like 15 matches going on against like all kinds of different groups. They document everything in these leather bound books that they keep in their SWAT room. And they've literally documented every SWAT game for a hundred years.

or since the beginning of time at Oakmont. So they've got these dozens of leatherbound, thick, like awesome leatherbound books. Every time you say leatherbound books, I think of Will Ferrell from fucking Anchorman. It's impossible for you to say that word without me thinking about it. Put that sound bite in right here. I thought about that too every time. It's crazy. You can't use that terminology anymore.

He owns that. Like, you have to call it something else. I'm fine with that. I like that people are thinking about that in their brain like I am. But they've got handwritten documentation in all these books of every game they've ever had. And like before the open, I believe it was 62, when Nicholas and Arnold Palmer went after each other, like they went up there and played in the SWAT game.

So these books have, you know, Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer, like Riggs from fucking St. Charles, Missouri, all these people in these books that have been documented forever. And then they do a sort of like end of the summer, like early fall annual SWAT party where they have the, the staff, the turf crew, which we're obviously very close with turf crews. Shout to behind the greens and Frankie and eBug. But the turf crew goes ham.

And they try to get the greens at Oakmont as fast as they can possibly get them for this one day a year. Guess what the greens we're stumping out at on Friday at Oakmont? I mean, isn't it like when it gets like 15 or 14? Isn't it like 14 and a half, 15? Isn't that unplayable? Pretty close. Yeah. What were they running?

I don't know. They were stipping over a 17. Yeah, dude. That's like you can't play on that. Ice. They rolled them between 6.30 a.m. and 1 p.m. and we had a shotgun start. They rolled them 11 times.

Oh, my God. I mean, is there even any grass on those greens? Is it just fucking cement? Right. I don't even know. I can't even like envision that. So the first story I told like when I gave up my little spiel, I told this story of when I got over to the putting green.

We got there like an hour and a half early. We had lunch, went to the range, and then we were doing a shotgun start at 1 o'clock. And so when we did that, I went over to the putting green about 30 minutes before. And I had already heard all this. Everyone had been telling me, like they're stimping at over a 17. They rolled them 11 times and all this crazy. So I already knew in my head that the greens were unbelievably fast. I was prepared.

I started on the putting green with about a 15 foot little downhill putt. I putted at 35 feet too far into like this other group of people on the putting green. and I just abandoned the golf ball and just aimed a different way and acted like I didn't know where it came from because I couldn't, there were like 20 people in this little circle chit chatting and putting

and my ball just came in like a wrecking ball and I literally just abandoned it and acted like it wasn't me and the greens were laughable the entire round like Mickey Mousey but also since they do it once a week it was incredibly fun so it was like Oakmont

like you'd heard about times a million and on the very first hole, one of our hosts, Maz, this guy Paul, who's awesome, who was a stick and played really well, hit, I believe, a 56-degree wedge into the green. It landed probably 10 or 15 yards short, hit really well, so it had a little bit of, like, check on it.

Pin was, like, middle left, and it took probably 15 or 20 seconds, and the ball rolled all the way over the green, and he made a bogey. And it just, for the whole rest of the day, set the tone of, like, oh, we're in for what they, like the classic Oakmont, you know, conversation and all the stereotypes.

And it was insanely fun, but it was also just, like you just knew at certain points. There's no way. Like when you hit a lag putt, the line is so thin that if you're a little bit short on it, like the slope just takes it and you're not even close. And if you're two inches

too far on your pace, it just goes past the hole and has gone like on the other side of that slope. It was unreal how fast they were, but they weren't dead. Like you think when the greens are that fast, the greens have to be dead. Like, 17 is not even a real number. I text that back to the guy after he told me that at the morning.

I was like, yeah, that's not a real number. He's like, no, they're literally stepping at 17. And it was absolute crazy time. The guys that play there in these SWAT matches, are they used to that or are you the only one that like couldn't handle that? Nobody could handle it. It's just not handleable.

Like, it's just like no, on the back nine, like the front nine I played pretty poorly. The back nine, I hit seven. out of nine greens and shot four over with four three putts. And it was just like, and honestly a couple of those three puts, the next putt, like, definitely wasn't good, but because you only need one low ball. It's like, let's just get the hell out of here.

So it was very cool. I got more, obviously, I'm like having to give a spiel or everything, but Lurch has joined with a bunch of Bruins jersey's behind him. I believe he's a Rangers fan. So that's kind of interesting. Yeah, he's Rangers guy. But, yeah, I'm up in Cape Cod for a sales manager's offsite. So an incredible amount of whiteboarding and discussion and strategy going on in here.

But yeah. So anyways, up here, 17 feels like a fake number. My question is, did you have fun? Yeah. It was legitimately one of the more fun and enjoyable rounds I've ever had because it was a seven-sum. So we played a seven. We played with these guys, Murph and Paul, who are. kind of like, I believe, the chair and the vice chair of the SWAT game.

And these guys are so deep in the Oakmont history and what it means to be part of this SWAT game that they spent 45 minutes afterwards. They go up into like this little special room. They spend 45 minutes afterwards combing through all of the results and all of the scores in each hole and then figuring out, you know, there had to be, I'm going to call it like 24 different groups and each group is playing a match against the other 23. it's a Nassau. So it's like front back overall. And they have to figure out how all the money gets dispersed and who won how many ways against each team. And so they're so into it that they

afterwards go up and spend almost an hour before dinner doing that. And then Murph's son, Brett played with this guy Dave, this other guy, Gary, who was laugh out loud, funny with a Pittsburgh accent. And then another guy, Brian, our caddy Reed was awesome. And it's only one best ball. So it's cool because everybody's on the same team. So like you know quickly who's out of the hole and who's not. And when somebody makes like a 10 footer for part to like keep the momentum going, the whole group went nuts. You think of Oakmont up there with the wingfoots and the Chinnecocks and like Cyprus, obviously with the prestige. And we've walked like we've been lucky to play a lot of these different places and talk about walking on eggshells. Pittsburgh has like Oakmont

has such a Pittsburgh mentality about it that it felt way, way more like a luncheon Pail type place and the membership right away, it's like people were having beers. It was relaxed. I wore like sneakers in a sport coat during like the whole dinner afterwards and it was very normal to do that. So right away it kind of disarms you that it's not maybe what you would think it is in terms of walking on eggshell. So within like a hole or two, it turned into an unbelievably fun day. The weather was like 71 degrees and sunny with almost no wind. And then the greens had that green shine to him that you wouldn't believe like how shine. me they were. So you kind of, you kind of accept early on that you're, you're going to get dominated by the greens, but also that everybody is. And once you kind of let go at that point, it just turns into a really fun experience. So, so yeah, it was, it was fun, but you have to, like if you're genuinely trying to score well, you're going to have a miserable day. Whose job is it to write in the leatherbound books? Great question. Because like the, um, calligraphy, you mean, where you need to be. Yeah. It's like, uh, it's like etching a name on

the Clare Chuck. That's a very special job. Did you know that's a part of like the PGA program? You know, all these PGA pros, they write up on those leaderboards and it's always perfect with like, it almost looks like old English. That's like a part of their program. Really? To like write those Gs like with all the lines going through them and shit. Yeah. And their three has like a little tail on it and stuff at the top and at the bottom, you know? That's like they literally, I believe, have to pass part of their PGA course is to be able to write that way. It's pretty interesting. I like that. So I would assume. Like whoever does it in the book, you're right. Like you can't be like a doctor, you know?

Like you can't be chicken scratch in this fucking book. Everyone's going to be like, you're out, dude. I'd be terrible at that. I'd fail. Yeah, me too. I have really bad handwriting, really bad. I'm sure people probably assume that about me anyway, but I have really bad handwriting. Grab a pencil just like.

Right. Caveman style. That's bad. I have, I would say I have bad handwriting, but I take a scorecard penmanship very seriously. You do. Off to charge seriously. Like when I do it, you get so frustrated because I'll erase one thing or just miss a hole. It's a nightmare whenever you do it.

It's like numbers are different sizes. You can't like leaking into the other box card. If you make a hole in one, why do you think it's so seriously? Like I guess if you make a hole in one, it would be awesome to have a beautifully clean scorecard, but why? Dude, I think it's because I just used to look forward to like the weekend rounds of golf so much that I thought the scorecard was like the record. was like the record of that and and it was really important to be able to like look and clearly understand exactly what happened because we like talk about it at the bar afterwards so I think it came from that and then ever since like when I write normally it's a disaster and it's fast

and you're just trying to get through it I'm always on the score like I take my sweet time and get those numbers I try to keep everything the right size I don't know maybe I'm just OCD psychopath but I always take it pretty I think it's a ladder my I do the um I do I do my scorecard just like I did my notebooks in high school or middle school elementary school. When you got that new marble notebook, you opened it up, you put the date perfectly in the top right corner, like day one in the top left. And it would be like, and you would actually indent whenever the teacher would say a new subject and a new topic. You'd write these fucking things. I felt like I was three.

Oh my God. It was perfect. And then it's like day four, you're literally just drawn cocks and boobs on the, like you don't know what's happening. that notebook it's an absolute nightmare um same thing with my scorecard first names like it's frank trent sam it's like everything's perfect like the first bogey has like a square around it and then i don't even keep score by 15 it's just a nightmare so yeah you make like a birdie on two and like circle you're like oh nice and then you go like bogey you might square that you're like still even par and then you just make triple and the whole thing's just away imagine being so cocky with like

how you think you're going to play that day that like like you square the first boge thinking you're not going to have a whole entire scorecard filled with squares. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like if you play my game, you can't be squaring and circling anything. It's just numbers. Like I don't play a good enough game or else the whole thing's a box.

Right. No, at our level, I would not put boxes. No way. I feel like it's common practice to just circle birdies and that's it, right? What level of golf do you have to be at where you can start doing the squares? Is it like sub five handicapped? I think you've got to be, or just making less than like five bogeys around. You know what I mean?

Like it has to be. Is it scratch? You have to be a scratch golfer to start incorporating squares for bogeys. Like, bogeys are so, are so, like, few and far between that you have to actually put a, like, a shape or a. You have to note that, oh, wow, that happened on that whole. Yeah, you have to note that a bogey happened. It's also a square is a nightmare on a scorecard because it's the same shape as the box, so you have to, like, make sure it's smaller. Whereas circle, you can kind of dip into the other boxes.

and the other holes doesn't really matter. A square, it's like got to be tight, and it's just a pain of the ass. And then if you double, you got to do double square, which we double all the time. So now the whole thing is just... I think you got to be a scratch golfer

to be able to use shapes. Well, do you circle birdies even now? Yeah. Yeah, same. I mean, I don't get them. Almost ever. A whole and one is two circles. Oh, yeah, that's nice.

A one with two circles? Wouldn't that be nice? Yeah, no, I think that's a pretty... I think if you're, if you are like a 10, to 20 handicap and you're square and your bogeys, I think you need to reevaluate the way you do things. It's just assumed.

Yeah. Like, we know. You just like to color then. Like you like just like coloring in the boxes on your fucking scorecard. You also just like, think about how much of your life you're wasting now, writing shapes that don't matter. It's like,

just take it. Just do one big rectangle, dude, you know? It's just go from one to 18. Yeah. Yeah. Shaded in. Barstool golf time. We're talking a lot about golf right now,

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Speaking of Unreal, UNRL, I believe their founder or it's like their CEO, his name is Michael Jordan. So I want to transition that into obviously Ben, Severance Lurch. doing Ben Lurch Severance. Doing what I would say is one of the more unreal fake life experiences you can have on this earth. It's something that when we're sitting at a bar and you're like, oh, you have like a foursome to play golf with or like you can pick three guys to get lunch with. You did this with someone that I would say globally is answered, I mean, what, like 90%

of the time among sports fans? Like when you're asking sports fans, who do you want to have lunch with? this guy is one of them. His name is Michael Jordan. So shout out to the guy from UNRL, Unreal. He also, the guy from Unreal signs his text like MJ, which I don't know if you're allowed to do that.

Like, we get what you're doing there. I mean, your name is Michael Jordan. You also have to change your name. Like Michael B. Jordan, put the B in there. Right.

The actor. So people weren't like, I also don't know if you're allowed to call yourself MJ. No. And I like this guy. This guy's unbelievable. I mean,

he's like, Unreal's clothing are unreal. Unless you want people to be disappointed. when they officially meet you. Like that's the only reason. Like you're trying to get something upon signature. And so you're like, oh,

I'll bluff this because everybody's honestly hoping that they'll meet them. And then when they're just so let down, but they've already like approved your table or approved whatever. So they're like, all right, you can have it. At the Barstall Classic, I was with the Islanders.

So we did the Islander one at Minnesota. And they're like, dude, Michael Jordan's playing behind us. Yeah. It was like on the list. That's what I was going to say you. Like, holy.

Fuck. Dude, if he goes that route, he, like, can't be referenced by others in a normal fashion. People can't say, we're going on this trip. I heard MJ's coming. No, you can't. You got to be called Mikey Jordan or something. You got to talk to him.

He's a great guy. Right, that's what Michael B. Jordan knew that he was going to get famous enough where his name was going to be on, like, award show list and all this stuff. And it would say Michael Jordan and people would be like, holy fuck, Michael Jordan's going to be here. Instead, he's like, no, I'm going to be Michael B. Jordan. So people know that. It's the actor, not the basketball player. That new apparel company, like I heard Michael Jordan own it.

Actually, that could work. Because when you said that, when you said Michael Jordan from Unreal, I just figured that he started that company. Oh, maybe he's doing something right then. At least gets, it perks people's ears up for sure. We know he's doing something right because the clothing's unreal. But I just thought that was funny because I remember he texted me about one of their new drops and he just signed at MJ.

I was like, well, that's actually pretty cool. That's so balsy. It's so ballsy, though. I think Riggs's call app is even crazier. If you're just the friend of this, like, MJ that's not truly MJ, and you're like, hey, guys, like, MJ's coming. Like, the person that's doing that is absolutely insane. Like, if Riggs tells us, oh, yeah, like, MJ's coming, it's like, MJ's not even officially announcing himself as MJ, whoever this, like, kind of Michael Jordan is, it's that, like, friend of a friend.

That's just, like, now, you just can't, like, you can't have that name. No, that's a name. Right. That's what I'm saying. The guy has handcuffed everyone. Like, he can't, your buddies have to say, hey, MJ. parentheses like not the famous one in parentheses is coming otherwise how can they reference you in any setting i think you just have to call them mich like like michael like michael's coming and then nobody

thinks about it yeah mike okay cool like there was some interview about people like their names were just donald trump and like they were getting like they weren't allowed to like do like they weren't allowed to have like reservations that didn't like people were like canceling their shit or like it's like i'm just my name's don't i'm trying to go to dinner That'll happen to people on Twitter sometimes where they'll have the name of someone that did something stupid at like a sporting event. And they'll have to come out and be like, I'm not this guy that you're mad at.

So like everybody leave me the fuck alone. There's a Ravens announcer and his name's Jerry Sandusky. Yeah, tough. Really tough. That's way worse. Yep. That got bad. That got dark, Jake.

That got real dark. I mean, it is similar to what we're talking about, though. But I think you could have to another level. You could use any name. Frank, you could use any. name of the world, there's probably a double. You know what I mean? Yeah.

We could have made any reference there. He got, he went Sandusky. That guy also like, it was relevant. It was relevant. They called like, oh, on the call tonight, Jerry Sandusky, that's what they say. That's tough. Yeah, James. Also, every time that guy introduces himself to anyone ever, it's a bad scene.

It's got to be a total scene. What's up? I'm Jerry Sandusky. And a lot of people probably don't necessarily know what the guy looks like. So they're like, what's happening right now? What are they'd be like, is this a bit? Like, is there like a punchline coming? I mean, so everybody on this podcast is just rooting for all the other Ben severances out there, the San Buzon.

You just have to root for your own ilk. Like, I'm just rooting that they do good things because one Ben Severance goes down and my life's ruined. If they do something horrible. I think there was a Frank Borelli in the Sopranos. He was an extra. So when I was growing up, you typed in Frank Borelli. And it was like guest starring Frankie Borelli or something like that. So that guy did well.

He was a little chubby guy on the soprano. So, yeah, there he is. Yeah, there is. There he is. Frank, he's even got his own wiki. Frank Borelli is an American actor. He portrayed Vito Spotafour Jr.

In a recurring role on the Sopranos. There you go. There he is, dude. Yeah, he is. He's in like four or five episodes. Yep, Vito Spadafore. I'm about to, I'm about to start the Sopranos from the beginning, by the way.

I watched it because it's like culture. It's my family thing. Like, my parents watched the Sopranos. I didn't, I liked it, but I was too. young, I think, obviously, when it was really going, like, really young. So I'm rewatching it as well. It's a fucking great show. I will say there's a lot of it where, like, you could kind of be on your phone for it, right? Like, with a lot of those shows, those multi-season dragged out where like a whole episode's about, like, I don't know, they're like going out to find somebody

or something. They're in the car driving. Like, I'm not like so hooked in. Like, every episode of Breaking Bad, I had to know every fucking thing they were talking about. Every line felt important. So about the surprise is more of like, It's more of like a culture show where it's like you don't need to know everything that's going on. Do you agree with that? I haven't watched it in a long time. I watched it when it was airing. Like certainly the last couple seasons.

That was before Twitter and Instagram were a big thing. So I remember being clued into the whole thing. And I haven't watched it recently, so I don't know. Any rewatch, though, I feel like you can do a little bit more phonying. I watched a little bit of it in real time. So I'm going to, but I'm not all of it. Like I wasn't all in. I was young.

It was whatever. So I think it's going to be kind of. a half, half rewatch, half first watch. So I'm pretty tired of it. I was the final. I was just looking at it. 2007 it ended. Yeah.

I was only 14. I walk time. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is still going, no. Are we? Yeah. I think we mentioned it for about 15 seconds. Oh, wow.

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So go check out the app. Okay, speaking of Michael Jordan, I will wrap up my Oakmont stuff after because we only have lurched for a short period of time. More whiteboard. I will say there's a, well, there's a lot going on here. We'll let you sort of intro at Lurch because there's a video on Twitter right now, too, that Colt knows put out there.

That's very funny. Oh, I didn't see that yet. No, so. Do you want to talk about my surgery real quick or no? Because I think that was more important. Did you want to say anything about? I got a whole wrap. It goes up to my shoulder.

I would love to see it, actually. Okay. See it. I can't. It doesn't look that bad. Is that a soft wrap? It's a soft wrap. I could take it off if I wanted to, but I wanted to milk it.

Talk to us about Michael Jordan. All right. Go ahead. Let's hear it. So, yeah, I mean, lucky enough. So Coltmost is friends with Josh Isner, and he's the big Boston fan behind me. I'm actually in his office. He's the sales leader over at Axon.

We're here basically strategizing for the next year. But anyways, there was an impromptu golf trip that I was invited to to meet them down in Florida. Lucky enough to play Jordan's course, the growth. And Colt Most is friends with Michael. It's just honestly crazy. He's very connected in and outside the golf world. Obviously played on the PGA tour and now very much on the media broadcasting side, but has an crazy network.

So lucky enough to play it, it's just an incredible golf experience. It's incredibly private. They want to keep it that way. But Colton, like, he was like, hey, we might meet Michael. He might come up here for lunch. And that was on like the 60s. hole and I was like, are you kidding me? Like, what?

And so, lo and behold, it was like confirmed on the 17th. I think I went like triple, triple on the way in. Just couldn't even think about it because all I was thinking about was like Jordan was in that building. And it wasn't like, you know, like the United Center where you were going to go watch him play and pay like $2.50 to see him shoot a basketball. Like, that guy's just in that building, like, walking around.

Waiting for you guys. So we go up on at the. porch and you know he's just there and so yeah we had lunch together couldn't have been nicer couldn't have been you know honestly just like more humble and just a regular guy and spent 45 minutes to an hour with us um yeah we just like sat and laughed and just enjoyed the time i'm i like we shared a laugh together so colt is just he just jaws you the whole time he's like yeah you're coming into my world i'm like yeah i'm not a golf like stink he's He's like, yeah, this is my role.

Like, I'm like, he's just jawing it to the whole time. So, like, you know, one moment, I knew he did. Or at least I thought he didn't have any siblings just on, like, the way he acted. I felt like, you know, he could use just a punch right in the nose based on, like, how he, like, continues to talk. And so I told Jordan, I was like, yeah, I'm like the 16th or whatever. I was like, Colt, do you have any brothers? And, like, he was like, no. I was like, well, you needed one just to, like, you don't get beat up as little kid and wrestle around.

And Jordan, like, laughed at that. for like he actually had an audible and so that was yeah the coolest thing that I'll ever do in this life without question and Colt was like yeah he'll never remember you and I'm like that's totally fine like I that's there was no expectation that Michael Jordan was ever going to remember the name Ben Sevens like if he remembers that we had lunch together today and this was literally two days ago like that he had lunch at the grove and there was other people there that's a total win for me um yeah I mean, it was above and beyond. And then people were, like, commenting that, like,

because I was trying to play cool as everybody does. And then I put my hand, like, behind his back. And at that point, you know, like, I'm touching, like, Michael. Like, you know, I mean, like, this guy is the coolest person in the world. And I thought, going into it, I was like, yeah, he's MJ. He's the coolest, silkiest guy you've ever seen play athletics. And when I left there, I was like, he's 10 times cooler than I, like, ever would have imagined just something.

on his aura and the way he owns it. So super lucky to be, like, be out there. Yeah, and just, you know, it's outwe. I'm like speech left honestly about it. Who had the balls to be like, hey, can we get a picture? I was the beta. It was, like, disgust, and I was just like, I'm low man, I'm a totem pole here.

Like, because Colt was like, you know, as soon as you ask that, he looks at you as like a child, not like, be like as a fanboy, not as like an equal. And I was still, I was like, okay. You're never getting that again. Yeah. Right. You're not an equal.

You're not. Great point. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it actually goes to your other point of he's not going to remember it anyway. Right. He doesn't remember he took a picture with you. No.

No idea. Great point. So anyways, yeah, I was like, hey, Michael, like, sorry to do this to like any way we get a picture. And I was with Todd Martin, Isner, and then, And like they weren't standing up right away. I was like, all you guys want to stand up and be in this photos and just like copped in. Like don't be idiots about this thing.

So yeah, I mean, incredible golf experience. That place is outrageous. And they like they want it that way and they work really hard to make it that way. And then seeing Michael was just like, you know, the boy in me. I was just like, oh my God. I mean, does Colt knows think that he's an equal to fucking Michael Jordan? I don't know what he thinks honestly, but I doubt it. The story's making me think things about cult.

I don't mean, what the fuck is happening in this story? I mean, I think, but like they have each other's numbers, you know what I mean? Like where he's a person on his like roll decks of people where I'm like a fictional character. You know what I'm like, there's that level where like I still think even J.T. gets that tingling in his fucking dick when Tiger Woods text him. You know what I mean? Like there's that level of no matter how close you are. I don't care how many messages you exchange with the guy. They are. There's there's there's there's three people that it's like Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, maybe Tom Brady, maybe. I don't know. But Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan, it's not even close. Those are the same. Like no like what you're saying. Like you

guys want to get up and get in this picture. I mean, this guy's not real. Like it's not a real person. Like why don't we just, why don't we capture this photo before he vanishes? Yeah. buddy, anyone here, we're jumping in that. We're jumping, I mean, you're jumping in,

you don't care. I could see, though, Cole, like, if he's the one that, you know,

clearly, like, knows MJ to a degree, um, I feel like it'd be equivalent to, like, there's certain times, Frankie,

if you're out with, like, the islanders, you don't make, like, I know, I'm not gonna take pictures. You're like protecting,

like, you're protecting, like, you're not Michael Jordan is my point. Like, like, there's just two guys that you can't, All rules go out the window, I think.

You know what I mean? And I think as like childhood, like idols, it's totally different. Like the way I look at the Rangers today and the Rangers of like 1994 and Mike Richter and like Mark Messier are totally different. You know, it's just it's a way different advantage. I'm not saying you don't look at them differently. I'm saying if you're in cold shoes like you're like, would I rather jump in one picture? Would I rather be able to like continue to like get lunch with Michael Jordan like forever? Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. And Colton, like, because the producers like chop everybody out and then just had me and Michael. So it looked even more preposterous than it truly was. And Colton was like, dude, I set all this up. And then you just like, you're just, you don't even. And I was like, no, I mean, like, that's just, it's a joke because of how different, I'm a sales, I sell technology.

And I'm like. All time move from our social guys. All time move. They just cut everyone out except Lurch and Michael Jordan. So it's amazing. Right. So yeah, it was some kind of week. I gas when I saw the cutout.

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And then so we left there and like it just got. So Colts boys were like JT and people. So we stopped by there for like a half set. And that's what the audio is going out right now of I asked Bud Kyle. I was like, oh, like, what do you do? Because he was in street clothes and I just didn't recognize him. And Colt heard that and was like, oh, you have a golf podcast. And I think he struggles.

He's like, you guys don't know enough about golf and like people listening to. It's like, yes, that's correct. We don't know everything. And like we don't claim to. But anyways. Colt, man. It's part of our lure. Colt, man.

He had a fucking day. Oh, that guy. He was, yeah. Would Colton not get along? Would Colton not get along or no? Huh? Would Colt and I get along or am I too like high-strung crazy? No, you'd get along with Colt for sure.

Colts? Okay. Colts, he's a good dude. Yeah, he's a good guy. He just, he's non-stop joining. Like he's looking to elevate himself all time. Yeah. So this, I'm, I think that, I think I'm actually mostly on the side of defending you Lurch.

Big time. So this story that's going out, it is like, insane that you guys are with like JT Ricky Bud Colley at like Justin's house Where is this? Where is this? This just went out Within like the last hour. It's from their PJ tour XM radio that they do that Colt

and Drew and these guys do. And like Lurch's saying the story goes like that they're all hanging out of this place and Lurch at one point just is chatting it up with Bud Collie and is like so bud like what do you do for work and Colt overhears it and just starts laying in being like I told you these fucking idiots don't know what they're doing

right? So my no yeah That's pretty close, but I was like, how do you know all these guys? It's actually the question that I asked. And then he was like, oh, actually, like, you know, I played golf. Like, I played college golf. And so then I was like, oh, shit. And then I heard the name Bud, and it somewhat clicked, Bud Collie. Like, I was like, okay.

Because there was, like, I just spoke to another guy in the room that played college golf with him, that, like, made a run at it and played, you know, like, kind of like, tried to make it work for five or six years. And so I just, you know, I'm just, everybody's in street clothes. Like, it's different, you know? And so, um, anyway, I would say it is what it is. Like, so I would say the only thing is like contextually, I would say it's a tough question just because you're like, if you, if you don't know, you almost don't want to potentially, like, embarrass somebody or yourself. And I equate it to like, when we walk around PJ Tor events with media credentials, there are a lot of people walking around there that we have no idea who they are.

They could be a player. They could be a caddy. They could be a manager. They could be a swing coach. We openly chat with each other. Like, who was that that walked by? And the other one will be like, I have no fucking clue. Thank God he didn't come over here because I don't know who he is.

So I agree with that. And then I would also say like Bud Collie, we've had him on the show. Otherwise, I don't know that I would know who Bud Collie. Like if he just was there. Now, again, contextually with like JT and Ricky, I don't know that I would just openly be like, what do you do? Because there's a decent chance that I should know who that person is. But I would say, like, on that.

the average man on the street test, I think most people probably wouldn't who are like on our level of just golf fandom and being like in tune with the PJ tour, which we've never claimed that we're like an in the depth PJ tour podcast. I would defend you and be like, I think there's a lot of people that love golf that might not know who Bud Collie is. Totally. And like you are right that I probably should have held that question. But like we're all just people. They're like he's a golfer. Like like power to him. He's a very successful golfer and has had incredible success and kind of on the men now. But like you put street clothes on anybody,

and you're going to be hard-pressed to know, like, who beside maybe the top, you know, the real, like, top 15, 20 players are of who they actually. I mean, he was in a hat, t-shirt, and, like, maybe swim trunch. And, like, just nothing, super unassuming, super regular. And that probably even speaks to him of just being, like, a regular guy and just like no ego behind it.

And he actually answered it. He was like just very humble and like really nice about it. And we had like fun together in terms of our conversation. And then Colt was like just like over there and side like in the room and just. And then he starts like John and me again. But my defense is like yeah, I just I don't I didn't know. You know what I mean? Like maybe it should have held the question to like.

And I also don't assume to be this all knowing golf guy. I mean I barely can put together the swing. It's like, I like watching it. I'm amazed at what these guys can do. But this podcast is never about breaking down a swing. It's never about really the details at all. It's pretty general. It's barely about golf.

The day we know who Bud Collie is when he's in swim trunks, cancel the podcast. I mean, I'll be straight up with that. I don't give a fuck about, like, who cares? Like, we don't need to know this stuff. The Colton knows who's on Sirius XM PGA Tour Radio. You better hope you fucking know everything about the game of golf. because you're getting paid by the PGA tour to talk about it. We're just a bunch of guys shooting the shit about the game of golf.

The bare bones amount of golf that we know about to play. I don't even know how to play the game. I don't know anything about it. I constantly ask about the rules. We're just a bunch of guys that like the game. We like to go out. We like to have fun. And we like to shoot the shit.

That's what this podcast is. I don't need to know who Bud Collie is and all of his amateur level status and all the championships he's won in college. That's not for me to know. I turn on CBS and listen to you say that, Colt. That's why you fucking get paid. that shit. 100%.

So anyway, I mean, I think like Colts a good dude. He definitely loves the job. Like, you know, he's going at me. Like, oh, you're fourth mic. I'm like, I know. I don't work at Parsful full time. I am certainly the fourth mic on the show.

Like, just going back. But I think his dilemma, honestly, is that he is fundamentally amazed as like a golf guy. PGA tour, everything. That, like, people listen to this as not like, because we don't know everything about golf. I think like that there's something in his brain that he fundamentally doesn't get about that. And to my point back to him, it's like there's actually more people out there that don't know shit about golf in terms of on your level.

90% of the fans like that like golf don't know shit about like the depths of the PGA tour. They're like if if the leaderboard is made up of Bud Collies on Sunday, none of them are tuning into the golf. And that's not like I think Bud Colley would probably know that. It's not like a big star-powered thing. People aren't grinding through like the amateur Alabama golf results to pick their favorite golfer and maybe follow them in the future. Our show actually does a good job of that because when we do have a Bud Colley on or Kevin Kisner on back in the day or whoever,

they all of a sudden become a bigger part of the storyline for a lot of fans and they have more reason to tune in for more guys than like the top 15 players in the world. But Frankie's 100% right. The minute that this show is breaking down all the details about the Bud Collies in the world and that we're scoffing it with people. We're going, ugh, if you don't know exactly who all of the Bud Callie level players are in the world, then we're not for play and we're fucking done. It makes me think that Colt knows, and he may be a great guy, and we're going to see him

at the Dad Bog Classic. I'm going to have to exchange some words with this man. It makes me think he's had his eyes closed for his entire life about, like, what's going on in the world. Does he not know how Barstle became what Barstall sports is? Like, Dave Portnard did not do the X's and O's. Like, does he not understand, like, what? media is today. He really thinks he doesn't understand the reason why people listen to this show instead

of like listening to the X's and O's of PG-Tor radio. I mean, check the fucking the charts. I mean, this is every category in sports, food, anything, football, part of my take. You think those guys break down the X's and O's about NFL Sundays? They're talking about like the most ridiculous shit of all time. They're not breaking down what you see. For future reviews, you think it's talking about like the details of like this is just like entertainment it's just like the world does he not know what like this side of the world does i don't know like is he mean dumb i don't know what happened but i mean he is he's a good guy and honestly like going back to like the people that were in that room like couldn't have been nicer couldn't have been more

humbled couldn't have been what happened in that room like what explain so colt is it colt's buddy you know he's in this circle and like knows all these people and was nice and brought us along and we ended up watching the alabama game with them um and had a couple beers and just like, you know, sat around. And honestly, like, J.T. letting us in his house and just letting us chill there for a little bit was super nice. And they were, you know, super generous host. And it was, I was just like kind of sitting there being a fly on the wall. You know what am I going to say?

It's not like, you know, you're just a regular person hanging out with seemingly, even though they're the best players, best people in the world at what they do, they're super humble, super nice. And they were just relaxing on a Saturday watching college. college football. It's like pretty much what you would all do. So, yeah, I mean, can't say enough, like about just the generosity of those guys. Just like, yeah, you guys can come over. You can chill. So very cool. You know, and again, so it was a neat thing to do. And, yeah, it's been a crazy weekend.

So, yeah, it's a weekend that I'll never forget. Colt's a huge Scottsdale guy. So I know Colt very well. He's around all time. Like, if I need a dinner reservation at a sweet spot, like I text Colt and he fucking hooks me up or our boy Josh Isner who also hooks it up or Todd Martin who are all on this fucking trip who are great but Colt is the man Colt's also very plugged in and his biggest angle against us is that like we're fucking idiots who don't know the ins and outs of golf and he's absolutely right about that what he's wrong about is that thinking that that in any way matters it does not matter we are like 95% of people that love golf are exactly like us they play the courses that

we play they play them like we play them they struggle with the swing the same way that we struggle. The only people that are like cold. Colt won the U.S. Amateur. Colt played on the PGA tour. You know how many people that actually pick up a golf club are like Colt and host? Fucking 0.01% of people like in the world that play golf. So I get that if you're really deep in the sauce, you could be like, how the fuck are

these guys doing well when they don't have the experience or the no with all that I have? But golf is a different sport, brother, where so many people play it that they have way more of an experience and a relationship to the game that we have. Whereas if you tune into like football coverage, and obviously like part of my takes a little bit different, but for the most part of you tune into like football coverage, you want people that are fucking experts at football because you just watch football. You don't necessarily play it. What we benefit from is we play golf like everyone else plays golf all the time.

And it allows our voice to resonate, make a lot more sense with people. And we watch golf similar to how other people watch golf. and Cole just doesn't he can't wrap his brain around that and that's why he thinks that story is like the most damning thing of all time to Lurch where it's like I was even texted a couple other people I'm like I think 95% of people that watch golf probably would have been like who the fuck is this guy would he want I don't want it on record and I hope it gets back to Cole I don't want to know who Bud Collie is okay I don't care about who Bud Collie is we went on a trip to ban on dunes we talk about our golf experiences like you're saying 0.000 0% experience the things that have to happened on the PGA tour. We watch CBS. We watch NBC. We watch all of these big events. We want you cult to explain to us what's happening in the PGA tour. We don't need to know everything to break it down. Those guys on the PGA tour, we talked to, and the reason I bring up Bannon Dunes, we talked to, I think it was Scotty Schaeffler at the Northern Trust where it's like, you just never get to play these cool courses. Was this guy Shepard? It was, yeah.

Where it's like you never get to experience like what real golfers in the world get to experience. You don't get to go to these golf resorts. You just play like TPC courses and just the PGA tour schedule and then you retire and then you get to go to your country club back in texas and that's the rest of it that's your golf life like we are getting to do these things like we get to go play public courses and and resorts and different things like we don't need to break down the x's and nose of justin thomas's wedge game and how many greens and regulations he's hit this year compared to last year that's just not what we do that's not what the real world of golf does so i'm very glad that that was brought up because that made me feel good a little bit about what we're doing

yeah like breaking 100 is a perfect example yeah i'm not i brought that up. Anyway, it's just a different take on golf, right? Like, what do you say about breaking 100? Did he fucking shit on it? No. No, no, no. I mean, I was just like... I can't even break 100. He's on a golf podcast. I actually did I shot on anything. I think that was just like a dinner we were talking about.

I was like, yeah, it's just different. Like, Trent like did this breaking one and people were captivated by it because that's so real for so many people. It's a large percentage of the golf. I was like I did that when I was seven. So Colts like Colts are plus three and he's all like watching him play golf is actually pretty cool. I mean like, Of course.

He's just dropping dimes all over the place. And you're like, holy hell. This is, it's very cool to see the ball fly that way. But it's not realistic for many people. Like, it's just, it's not. So anyways, it was a crazy. He also makes everything. He's like, oh, he's a putter that just makes it.

And I had another putting weekend where it was just like, these three footers just came to go. How did Isner keep up with, with Cole? He was, Isner's right there. You know, he was like low mid-70s, but he was, he hasn't played like a month. So, you know, he was a little rusty. So we, we, Isner and I got beat pretty handily by Colt and TM. So, you know, it was fun.

It was incredible, like, lifetime memories type stuff. And then capped off by that, I was at the Patriots game last night, not a Patriots guy at all. But Isner obviously is, as you look at, you know, he's got the whole lineup of the Bruins, Charo McAvoy, Burge in the middle of Mars. And he's not even a hockey fan. He just became a Bruins guy.

I think a couple years ago when they played the blues to spite me. I didn't see why reason he became a Bruins band. These sports obsessed. So anyways, that was like, I love the same or stuff because I feel like trend is close to throwing up. But it was like a sales manager offsite. And so we all got tickets and went up to that game. Yeah, I'll puke on my laptop.

I'll ruin this thing. I'll ruin this laptop. Leave that out. I can't wait for the Dad Bot Classic this year because for people that don't know, Isner is the one that puts that on. So all these guys are going to be there. Todd Martin will be there. Colton Nose will be there, which I'm very excited for.

I'm very, I'm looking forward to meeting him because I think that I like his fire, man. I like that. Oh, it's great. At any moment, a debate and an argument can lash out. And that's my kind of guy. Like, I'm already, I'm yelling at him. I've never met him. I'm like screaming at him.

We got to have him on the show. You would all get into it with him. It'd be great. Honestly, he talked so much that he would just go, go, go. And then you'd have to be like, all right, Colt, the show's over. Like, he, like, he is not. He didn't shut up for the whole weekend. It's honestly a talent.

He took a nap on the car ride home from a course one day. And that was like the five minutes of quiet. And then he woke up and he had like three different conversational points all within five seconds. It's just like boom, boom, boom. And he was right back to it. And it was like, what the hell is happening? So yeah, he's nonstop energy. He'd be a great guest on the show.

I hope that at the dad bod, bod, like he never lets his guard up where he consistently tells us that like he can't believe that we have like like we never get through to him i hope that he's like that kind of guy where it's like no matter what we say he's like no i just don't i don't believe you nothing you say makes any sense it would be great if we just if we brought him on the show talked about a bunch of different points all had wildly different opinions and then just parted ways and that was it just i think we bring him on the show i think we bring him on the show and we talk about frankie's elbow the whole time right right and we don't bring up golf one time and then we send him the the iTunes charts and be like oh i well i think we bring him on the i don't know i

Like this is like kind of what happens. Like we didn't talk about one thing of golf. Like you guys like had Justin Thomas on. It's like we're just beat you. I apologize. I got to run because I got to catch a ferry actually to Nantucket, believe it or not. Okay. All right.

You're just. What's happening? I just, we're doing a team dinner there tonight to talk again about sales strategy. You guys can't do a team dinner at a fucking convention center in like New York. You're going to Manhattan. You're at the, well,

you just said you had a manager offside of the Patriots game. Like what? Like what? So I think it's the big. biggest regular season game arguably in the world. Like, ever. So you go? Was that like the best, like the best regular season ticket to get?

Most highly anticipated I would argue. Yeah. I would argue. I mean, I don't know. Aside from like a play into a playoff game, like just first nine weeks of a season is that the best regular season football game ticket to get, like, going into that game, all the anticipation. It's the best player of all time coming back to play at Foxborough with against his all-time

fucking coach. And then you had a team outing at the 50 yard line, like what, 10 rows up? Like probably like 40 rows up or something like that. It was perfect, though, because you have vantage point on. Like, it was outrageous. It was truly outrageous. Although if I don't leave now and miss the 345 ferry and then get fired and then I'll be job with it. Well, I'm glad you had a great weekend.

I was floating on oxycott and with my fucking elbow surgery. So we had a really good time to be honest. Yeah, we had a pretty similar. I'm so bummed. I didn't get to hear that. Yeah. Sorry about that, Frank. How are you feeling, though?

I'm feeling fine. Get the fuck out of here. Catch your boat. I'll talk you guys later. Say it large. Jesus Christ. Cross country mortgage. Much like us at Barstool, they are a people first group of people.

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But then afterwards, it was probably 150 people in a room with sport coats on, and they gave me a microphone to, like, speak to the Oakmont membership for 15 to 20 minutes. And just like, the way that they had told me before is like, yeah, you can like tell funny stories for like 20 minutes, right? In front of the room, but I was like, yeah, I think. And it's, you know, like you guys know, like we're not stand up comedians. Like we do a podcast and we go back and forth and that's pretty much it. I will say having done the Barstool Classic for a couple years and just having a mic in your hand, I think helped a lot. And then the other thing I would equate it to is I think everyone here has done a best man speech. Is that right?

Yep. I haven't. You haven't, Frankie? No. I think Lurch has. But, um, Trent, it was very similar to giving a best man speech, whereas like the day, the whole day was super fun. Um, people in the middle of the day that I'm with are very much starting to like celebrate and they're just all in on the day. and they've got no stress.

They're just there to have super fun time and it's good and it's relaxing. And me the whole time, I'm like kind of part of the fun but also just looming over my head is like at some point between 7 and 9 p.m. I have this insanely intimidating thing. And like Jerry Seinfeld's joke and bit

about how like the number one fear that humans have is public speaking. Like I have to do that now later in front of a bunch of strangers. So that was looming over me from like 7 a.m. when I woke up until 8 p.m. whenever I did the whole spiel and it was very reminiscent of like a best man speech type feel. Yeah, you want to drink a little bit to calm the nerves, but you don't want to get too drunk and then you're sloppy and then you're that guy. I remember when I gave my best man speech, they served dinner before all the speeches and I didn't touch one part of the food.

I was starving, but I couldn't eat because you're just wrapped up in the nerves. And I will say, you said you had to give a speech for 15, 20 minutes. my best man speech was three minutes maximum and I felt like I was going to throw up all over myself I was so nervous but yeah that feeling of waking up that morning your head pops off the pillow and you know at some point

over the course of the next 24 hours you have to speak in front of a large group of people and people assume that you're going to be able to tell like a funny story maybe make it a little emotional like they want you to have all these ranges that you're not even sure that you have and you just worry about it all day long so I'm actually curious to know how it went for you

I think it went overall very well. I would give myself like a seven out of ten. That's all you need. Which is I thought anything above a five would have been really good. It was tricky and that I didn't know what the crowd was going to be. Like I didn't know if it was going to be 25 guys that are like our age and kind of a young crowd. I didn't know if it was going to be 150 guys that was a wide range, which is exactly what it turned out to be. It was about like 150 people in the room, probably 100 to 120 Oakmont members that range from, you know, young.

members to older members that have been there for a long time and then probably like 30 or so of their guests. So it was like a wide range. And I kind of had, you know, like obviously I'd prepare for you. Not going to go up there like an asshole and have no clue. But it's also you don't want to you don't want to read anything because that's, it would come off as too formal and you're supposed to be like funny. So I kind of just storyboarded like six or seven things and was like, I can just go in those directions. And overall, I think it went pretty well. I told the story about how I got hired with a couple like funny email exchanges back and forward. with Dave.

Then I told, like, what it's like working for Dave's. I told the Rider Cup email story from 2016, Trent, where he emailed us, you know, just like, hey, guys, what's going on? Anything going on in the Rider Cup? And then, like, to a paragraph below that was all caps, like, wake the fuck up with, like, 15 exclamation points. God, I forgot about that. He, like, hates the Rider Cup now.

Boy, I forgot about that. And that's bringing back nightmares. That was, that got a lot of good laugh. So like I kind of built up to that a little bit and told that story and then told a few stories about like us and what it's like being out there. And then I told a Kisner story and a few things. And the next thing you know, it was like 15 minutes and you were kind of through it. So I think it went pretty well. I'm not going to give myself like a 10.

I think they thought it went really well. But I would give myself like a seven or so. Yeah. I mean, that's more than you can ask for like you said. As long as you didn't go out there and puke on yourself, that's anything is a positive. Right. As long as they're not going to remember it one way or the other. You're good. That's what life's all about. That was pretty much the goal. And then Tom Coyne, who's a golf rider, he's written four different books. He wrote like a course called Ireland. He wrote a course called Scotland. He went up like before me and he spoke clearly like in a very different way. But he did a great job of like talking about different courses, talking about kind of his story. And then people even Q and Ate him a little bit about different holes and different courses and how they kind of stack up. And then my guy Murph introduced me.

and was like, this is going to be very different. And it sort of freed me up to speak. I will say, like, they told me too. They're like, if you want to curse or anything, that's totally fine. And me and Frankie say the F word, like every other word, basically. So that was a big part of it that I was able to do that because otherwise I don't know that I could be entertaining. Like, I wish I could be Nate Bergatsy or like Jerry Seinfeld and not need that. But clearly I need that.

So I was able to like kind of curse my way through it and just talk how I normally talk. And ultimately I got through it. But it was, it was incredible. nerve-wracking seeing like that type of membership luckily like I said they're all incredibly cool afterwards we went into like the swat room with everybody and there's just different conversations going on with different you know like kind of uh clicks of people when you're in this room and there's pictures of like jack and arnie and there's like a magician there that had thrown he throws like um he like throws and basically sticks cards into like the ceiling you know and he has thrown people sign it and

he sticks and the arnold palmer one is like stuck right up there in the middle where arnie this playing card that this magician then threw into the ceiling and that guy's still there coming to the swap party every year so like all these cool things were going on it was just a surreal time it was unreal wow yeah it's almost sounds like an eyes wide shut party well i would say eyes wide shut is like a cult a little bit i don't know this was just kind of i think we would say that as well this was just a golf club i don't think it was like his cult like i guess my whole emphasis was that it wasn't like cold like like you felt going leatherbound books leatherbound books rooms, the name swap party.

I think you were at a cult. You're not seeing how it could be. I think you got swindled by the. No, I don't think you got swindled. I think you just might be involved now. He's in the cult now. I can't. I would love to be involved. If I could be in the big time. Totally. If we're talking like if it really came down to would you want to be involved with this, I'm saying yes, 100% of the time, no matter what that agreement entails. 100%. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying this sounds a little culty.

I'm saying it sounds a little bit like you need to get a certain invitation. You got to walk in. Like you got to look around. There's clicks. There's magicians throwing things into the ceiling. Felt very eyes wide shut. You get to, uh, they throw you to the fire. You got to give a speech.

We're going to walk into the, the, initiation room. When you said the SWAT room and that there was like circles of people talking like that, I've pictured dimly lit red lighting and like, you know, meat being passed around. Red meat. Good. I'm glad. I'm actually, uh, yeah, no, I'm glad it kind of came off like that. Because it was, I do think things like that need to be almost above, above real life expectation.

Like, like, you can only fantasize about, like, what something like that might be because it's so foreign and interesting. I mean, that is a fantasy. You did a fantasy. That was a fan. I mean, that's a golf fantasy, right? We just, like, we are just regular guys. We just got off the topic of talking about cult notes. Like, not many people go to the swap room and have conversations with clicks and throw,

Arnold Palmer cards into the ceiling. That is a fantasy. That's a dream, like weird scenario, like that you're like a dream sequence. Everything you're looking around, you're at Oakmont, people are writing in leatherbound books. You're just like, what's happening? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. You're right.

You're right. I just didn't want it to be negative connotations. I think cult-like in a positive way and like a really cool golf, a sky way. All those cool cults out there that you hear about. A couple cool cults out there, like the one at Oakmont, you know. They're fucking awesome. I'm going to piss my pants if I don't stand up right now. What?

I'm going to go piss my, I'm going to go piss. I'll just do it. Dude, I actually wonder if I could because I bet there is there's something. You absolutely could. No, I think it's harder than you're thinking because you've been not pissing your pants for a long time now.

No, you have a mental block. It's not that hard. I was in a lake and I pissed. I have to go right now. It was essentially the same thing. It basically pissed my pants. I pissed my shorts,

which I thought was weird when I was in the lake. I pissed my shorts and everyone's like, yeah, it's no problem. It is. It is. It felt the same. Yes, it did. As he leaves, he's telling me it's not the same thing. I think it's very common to piss your pants when you're in a lake. But isn't it the same feeling of like forcing yourself to do something that you're not used to regarding pissing? Like he's saying that because you're not in the area that you usually are, meaning a toilet, that it's hard to like pull that trigger.

I think it's hard to pull the trigger when you're in the lake. It's the same thing. It's like the same mechanism of being like, all right, release this piss as you stand around a bunch of people and not to. like you're not peeing. It's the same fucking, it's the same trigger. Yeah, and I mean, we've all gotten stage fright even when you're in front of a toilet for similar reasons of like any time, I guess anytime you really need to relieve yourself, but you are not confident or you're really uncomfortable, for whatever reason you kind of clam up and then I don't know that you can always get it out. Big time. Happens to me at the airport all the time. There'll be a whole row of fucking urinals open. I go to the one all the way on the right and then someone just comes Like, even if it's not the one right next to me, like the one, like, two away from me.

It's just like, it's just a weird feeling. You don't know who that person is. They're like looking around. You're just like, what's going on right now? I just want to take a piss. Dude, one time we were in Minnesota. I think we were in Minnesota for the final four, like two years ago. And I was out.

We went to the bar after the show, or maybe on Saturday night. I was with, like, Dave and a few other people. And I had to go piss. And we're at, like, this dive bar. I had to go piss. and the line was incredibly long. Like there's just one bathroom. They only had like two urinals and then like one shitter.

And so I'm in there in this line. Probably took like 10 minutes or so, 10, 15 minutes to get through this line in a packed bar. Get up there. I got the worst stage fright you've ever seen. And people kind of like know a little bit who we are. So I was like, I cannot stand at this toilet forever because this whole line of people is going to get furious. Like furious to this guy. So enough time went by that I had to just.

fake that I peed because it was better than dealing with like how much people were going to be pissed off that I had to stand in this line and ruin everybody's night to the point where I had to go and then I got back in line. Oh man. And had to wait again. And I don't forget it came back. And David and all them were like, dude, we just 100% thought you Irish. You've been gone for like 45 minutes. I was like, oh yeah, I just like ran into somebody I knew. I had to go through this fucking line twice because I got such bad stage fright. I don't know what you guys are talking about. But you're saying that pissing in a lake is the same as me standing here and pissing in my. It's the same trigger of like, all right, it's time to pee in the place that we're not used to peeing.

No, because you're pissing in your shorts, the same feeling. No, it's not. You're, it's, you're shielded by the water. See, like the shielding and people watching the piss in me is not what would stop me. It's the idea of like literally looking around and just peeing, just like I would in my pants. Like, if I had to pee right now, I would be able to. It's the same release. It's that same trigger.

It's that same trigger. You got to just get beyond that trigger being like you're no longer in front of a toilet or a urinal. You got to pee now. I don't know that it varies between water or not. I think you would eventually be able to do it, but you wouldn't just be able to be like, oh, I'm going to pee right now. Like in the water, like I'm saying, you're shielded.

People probably don't know, even if you're telling them, it doesn't matter because you're not seeing your pant, the front of your pants, fill up with piss. That is very different. If you were standing here and we told you to piss, I don't think you could do it within the first five minutes.

I'm not going to try, but I'm pretty confident I'd be able to piss my pants. I think it's more difficult. because I remember trying it with a buddy of mine This was a long time ago now But when you're just like I could piss my pants I could piss my pants

I just close my eyes and think about a waterfall Weird that you think it's like impossible to piss your pants I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying I'm saying that you have trained your body For however many years To not piss your pants Okay that's the goal really And then when you're just going to try to do it

Your body's going to be like but we are not supposed to do this Which I think is the same as the lake It's not Okay Counterpoint you told me you peed yourself because you were so drunk before. That's different though. Yeah, that's different.

You can't control your, uh, you can't control your extremities when you get really drunk. What's, what's different than being not drunk and drunk? That's really the question. You pitched yourself. Yeah, but that's different. That's like, I'm saying if we are just sitting in this studio and you're saying, do it. I think it's, I think you would get it done, but I think it's much, it's more difficult than your- Definitely not as easy as just ripping it in a urinal or toilet, but I think after

a second of thought, I think I just pee my pants. I think we should test it at some point. Yeah, we should. We should send this segment to Colt Nose. Or just send the PMT them pissing themselves with the first four years of their podcast. That's hard, though. You watch that video back. That's one of the funniest videos that Parcel has ever put out.

They have difficulty doing it. That, I think there was a lot of pressure on them because they tried to do it as a bit in the middle of this fuck. Like, dude, they used to do it. They used to have pressure to actually have to try and pee. Like, they didn't have the sensation of needing to be. pee. They used to chug water and electrolytes prior to that part of the podcast, and then they'd be like, oh, fuck, I need to get a little bit out.

I don't think it was like a stage fright thing. Maybe a little bit. I think that's actually a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Maybe there's a little bit mixed in where... If I had to pee, I could pee my pants. It's a weird argument to say that I couldn't. I think we should test it at some point. Because I don't think it's as easier of making it sound. I would just end up peeing my pants. It'd be a horrible fucking like, I got you. Such a self-owned. Prove to us you could piss your pants.

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Barstable Sportsbook. I got a shout out Kelly in Vegas. Maybe the hottest, I mean, handicapper in the world right now. She's getting out back-to-back weeks. her massive parlay that she does is hit. I mean, on Saturday, she had Texas Tech, Nevada, and Kentucky all winning

at plus like 3,500, and it hit. Yeah, I think, and then the week before, I'm pretty sure a $200 bet cashed out for $16 grand. Is that correct? My God. Holy shit. I could be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure it was like...

I know she's done it two weeks in a row where she gave out these crazy, you know, plus thousand odds and then they've both hit it's dude i threw a hundred bucks on it she made me thirty five hundred dollars i just literally went to bars for sports but i clicked barstool bet with barstool and the exclusives just was like oh that's interesting that just seems like three teams that need to win cool and then they just fucking want so shut out to her like she's a hero she made a bunch of money she's been red hot so you got clearly focus and two weeks ago two weeks ago she cash a $200 three-team underdog

money line parlay for 16K. Oh my God. So people that rode Kelly and Vegas' fucking bets are up, I don't know, 20K right now if you made a couple $200 bets are there. Jesus. I'm sure she'll do it again this upcoming weekend, I would imagine.

All eyes on Kelly and Vegas. All eyes on Kelly. Dave Portnaut in his eyes. Literally his last tweet about her was just eye emojis. A bunch of them. Right. I think you got to be paying attention to that. And then I woke up Saturday morning and I saw Sam Burns was three shots back, so I threw a little bit of money on him, and Sam Burns went out and won the tournament. I got him at plus 800, I think.

So Barstow's Sportsbook has just been responsibly, of course, delivering right now. And it's huge because it's live in Arizona, where I live. So thank God that they got that thing going here. And then the Big Cat Can't Lose Parlay, I think it was plus 275. That puppy hit as well. So just a good time to be alive on the Barcelona sportsbook. Things are happening. Last night they had a parlay in the Sunday night football game

that absolutely was just disastrous ending. Tom Brady dropped just a dime of all dimes to Antonio Brown. And they had maybe it was a six or seven leg parlay to cash in for, I think it was like 30 grand or something like that. And all they needed was an Antonio Brown touchdown. And boy, oh boy, did he almost fucking have it with like a minute. What was it, like two minutes to go? Yeah, something like that.

Should have had that one. Right in the bread basket. He had it. He did have it. It looked like he had it when he came down. Yeah. So highs and lows of the Barstall Sportsbook. It is such a fun.

It's such a fun ride. It makes watching the games so much better. We're going to be in the Hoboken Barstall Sportsbook house for... Tonight or tomorrow. Tonight, well, when this video... When this podcast comes out, Trent, that's how this works. It's a little bit of time travel. I don't know if you've caught up the speed.

Try to keep up. Try to keep up. But I'll be in Hoboken tonight watching Yankees Red Sox playing game for the Wild Card. I'll be there on Saturday watching Penn State, Iowa. Yes, you will be. Number three, verse number four. With Jeff D. With Jeff D.

Penn State. Love. He's a great guy. Where's the D stand for? I don't ever want to know. I know that Glennie Balls accidentally saw Jeff Dillow's license one time and found out and he said it ruined his day. Fuck. I never want to know.

Ever. You know what else could draw a crowd, a golfer with an arm growing out of his ass? There we go. We've been going for an hour and a half already? There we go. Hour and a half. Pretty good. I got to get some lunch.

Wow. I'm starving. I'm starving. I'm starving. right before we got here. I'm going to get Chipotle. I go to Chipotle a lot for lunch. They just added brisket.

I was thinking about trying that. Really? Ooh, I actually might try that. Wow. But like, my problem with that is, then it changes the, the, you go to Chipotle for a certain taste. Now all of a sudden you throw them brisket in there. It's no longer.

You're talking about a Mexican taste? Is that what you're saying? I'm just like, there is a, like, I have my Chipotle taste. It's like what I put in it every single time. I never waver from my Tripoli order. You understand what I'm saying? Let's hear it. The order.

It's half chicken, half steak, over rice. I throw in some peppers and onions. I always say some, just a little bit. We get a little bit of peppers and onions. I throw sour cream in there. I toss a little. See how I use all these. Is it verbs?

Oh. Yeah, toss. It's a verb. It's a verb. Toss the verb. Right. So I'll do a toss. I'll sprinkle a little bit of.

Verb. Yep. I do a lot of verbs with them. Because I think, and maybe people agree with me, I think when you use verbs at these types of places, it's like how you explain how much of it you want. I bet it changes nothing for them. You don't think so? No. I get a little sprinkling lettuce in there.

Can you toss a little bit of lettuce in there? Like, all right, this asshole wants lettuce. Right. I think, well, to me, it feels more comfortable if I use the verbs. So I do that. I throw in some, uh, um, some queso. Some quaco on top. And my big thing is I get the guac on top.

I make it a whole big deal. basically a nacho bowl, and then I'll get chips on the side. And after I'm done eating with a fork, or maybe while I'm eating with a fork, I'll throw a couple of chips in there, scoop it in, right? There's nothing better than that cheese, that sour cream, that steak, that chicken on a nice nacho chip. Yeah. You shove it in there with the crunch.

But now... Might be where that moon face comes from. The moon face comes from all that, the sour cream in particular. My thing is now if I go to Chipotle and get brisket, now we're talking a whole new style of food. now we're talking barbecue. I mean, come on. I don't know if I like that.

Yeah, but if it's good, you're just adding a good thing to your. It's just a different vibe, man. I don't know if it mixes with the sour cream and the guac and you know what I mean? I will say when I go with Chipotle. Yeah, when I was back home, my mom went to a restaurant and she brought back brisket nachos and they were divine. Yeah, that's true. They were defined.

They were defined. Briscuit nachos are good. They really were divine. tacos yeah very good brisket nachos are good man burnt and um who oh boy a couple things we got a cover uh bryson de chambo at the world long drive did incredibly well i ended up getting into the elite eight which is amazing i think a lot of people thought he had no chance these other guys only hit the golf ball a million miles that's pretty much like their their skill in golf their profession that's what they do and bryson plays in the pGA tour wins rider cup matches and then goes and also does the world long drive and finishes

eighth and gets into the top eight, I thought that was fucking amazing. I bet the World Long Drive participants that aren't named Bryce and D. Shambo publicly love him and privately talk a lot of shit about him. Do you agree with that? That's probably true on the PGA tour too. I think that's probably true as well. But for the longest time, the World Long Drive was like, these are guys who can't do anything else. They just hit the ball really far.

And then people are like, yeah, we're always proud. in the long drive so we can't work on our putting we can't work on our chipping and then here comes what is brison the like the seventh ranked player in the world he's like i'll just do it all and i'll get into the elite eight and he's probably going to win one of these things eventually yeah you know kyle berkshire is that who won it he did yeah who's just he's like the goat of long driving he's got the long hair he swings really hard preysley he does yeah he's in like the chris combe bryson like ring right yeah they're always hitting in that room screaming at each other yelling at each other winning Cures All, and we've seen that a lot in sports,

and I told you guys on the 18th Green at the Ryder Cup, that I'm going to start liking Bryson D. Chambot, there's just something about this guy where it's like everything he does now, you look at it in a different light. Like I thought his videos this week of him hitting absolute bombs, the crowd going crazy. He's running back screaming at the crowd. Like, that stuff was more likable than two weeks ago, like prior to the Ryder Cup.

You know what I mean? I agree. Something's just different about him. I thought it was cool. I thought it was cool. I thought like his whole World Long Drive thing was great. If we watched it a month ago, he'd be like, look at this fucking lunatic. This guy's, you know what I mean?

Like it's just something about the perception. The perception of Bryson DiCambeau has changed 100%. It's just he's a guy that cares about competing now. And he's not letting all these weird things get in his way. He's not going to be doing any weird interviews anymore. At least I hope he's not. He's not going to be saying anything that gets him in any trouble with other players. He's just going to be Bryce and Deschambeau, showing up the driving ranges,

hitting the balls over nets into fucking into cars. He's definitely going to do all those things. No, he's not. His stock is really high right now. He's not going to do those things. He's not going to do those things. It's very much, it's like soccer after the World Cup. Like soccer's, everybody's raving about soccer in the United States of America.

People go nuts. And then they're like, it's the future. And then six, 10, 12 months later, nobody cares about the MLS. So I think that that's what's happening with Bryson. Right now, his stock's really high. He's definitely going to do all those things that you said he's not anymore. But right now his stock's fantastic. I thought he looked great at the world long drive.

It was hard. to like it. The fact that he performed as well as he did was phenomenal. Difference between like the MLS comparisons, like Bryson can just be in the mix every single week. Like, you know, like Bryson can. Right. I think him being in the mix, it's like he is who he is. That's the issue. It's always going to come out who he is. Yeah, but I've seen the light and he's changed. He's completely changed. He's not going to do those things. Can't tell the future rigs, right? Guy really got you in a five last week. Guy hit an awesome drive on one on Sunday at the Ryder Cup and I was there. You were there too. I fell in love of them again. But I feel like I'm seeing a little bit more realistically than you are that

he is going to be in the mix week after week and he's going to stumble. He's going to make mistake. That's not a good way to look at the world. I'm the pessimist in this situation. Which is scary. Yeah. I'm just saying that I do think I'm going to try my best to continue to be pro-Bricson because I do think some of the things that he does is very interesting and cool. I don't know if I want to use the word cool there. But I do think he's going to do something. I think it's going to screw it up. Okay. Only time we'll tell.

You love Bryson. Yeah, I mean, I just think that, you know, a lot of this stuff was carried around by media. We fell into the trap. Like, I hated him for no reason. I hated him just to hate him just like the rest of the world did. And we piled on the guy. And now he proved his true colors. He showed his true colors at the Ryder Cup.

He did everything that we thought he wasn't going to do. He just showed up. He was a team guy. He was an awesome guy for the team. Justin Thomas, and part of my take was like, I don't think people are talking. enough about like how like real they actually like him and brooks were just like talking at dinner right like hanging out like it's like with no cameras like actually being like he was actually being really cool the cooling of the perceived beef that the two of them had is going to do wonders for

bryson's image right because because that's where a lot of the anger and and negativity was coming from is because we're we're team brooks guys and if brooks doesn't like bryson then that's what we're going to do it come to find out that brooks doesn't really care either way and he you know him and bryson can talk and they can hug when egged on. Like that stuff going away, that beef going away is the biggest thing that's going to help Bryce. I just think we know everything about Bryce. Nothing's going to surprise us anymore. We know who he is.

He is who he is. And like at this point, we've just accepted him, or at least some of us have accepted him. Like he's just, he's not going to surprise us anymore with anything he does. Like, I was on him with the protractors and sprinkling the water on the driving range on the ball, to check the do. and their circumference of the, what was it, the restitution of, oh, the restitution of the coefficient of the flag stick he was doing, the ROC. I think it was coefficient of restitution.

I feel you're C-O-R. So, like, all that stuff was stunning, and it was jarring, and you couldn't even handle it. Like, even him walking with the cleats behind Brooks and his eyes are closed. We just know who Bryson is now. And without the stupid pettiness beef with Brooks. You just don't think he's going to walk with cleats anymore? But I think we're just accept that. My point is like he's...

That's actually interesting. He's, like, showing us who he is now. Like, he's gotten all of his weird, quirky shit. He's yelling at cameraman. He's yelled at cameraman. He's kicked people out of fucking tournaments for calling him Brooksie. He's walked with the cleats. He's hit balls all over the place.

Like, he's hit balls into, without screaming for. We know who he is. He's just going to continue to do that stuff, and we're just going to accept him. Like, he's done shocking the world. You better hope that that's true. Well, like, unless he comes out and, like, clobber someone in the head, and we're just like, all right, like, Bryson's like a bad guy now. Like, obviously I can't foresee that future.

I just think that we are now accepting. who Bryson is. We've seen all the warts. He's like the nerd that we've now accepted. It was like now one of the cool guys that like all the all the jocks like Brooks like they accept now. You know what? Like maybe we were a little hard on you in high school, but you're actually a pretty cool guy. But it is the flip side of that is you got to think that those things are going to keep coming. They will.

I just think that, oh, like the stuff. New things. Right. But I genuinely think that we are just in a world where we're just going to accept Bryson D'S Deschambeau for who he is. We're almost going to like want him to do this stuff. Winning cures everything. The further we get away from the Rider Cup, I think that that's going to dwindle,

and stuff's going to continue to happen. I think people are going to eventually get upset about it, like they did in the past. That's my guess. Like him saying his driver sucks, him asking for relief from like fire ants, him telling the cameraman, like you can only put stuff out that makes me look good. I think when that stuff gets six months, 12 months away from the Rider Cup, that it's just going to add up and add up. And we're going to be right back where we were.

I don't think any of that stuff had anything. to do with Brooks Kepka. That's my guess. We'll see. Who knows? We'll see. Only time will tell. That's right.

Can't predict the future. That's a fact. Caddy. So we had a couple very surprising announcements. Justin Thomas and his caddy Jimmy Johnson. Separating and Jim Bones by Kyle leaving TV, who caddy for Phil Mickelson, obviously forever, leaving TV to take the full-time job on Justin Thomas's bag.

Very, very surprising. I don't think anybody. saw that coming. J.T. put out a statement himself in which he wrote in there, I 100% did not fire him talking about Jimmy Johnson, that Jimmy came up to him at the Ryder Cup and said, you know, that he thought it was about time to go there separate ways. So I don't know if anybody has any, you know, big-time thoughts on this, but, but yeah, interesting news, I guess. Yeah, Jimmy Johnson, another name, like we said prior, like Michael Jordan, or if you think of it, you just think of the driver when I saw, you know. Oh, I think of the Dallas,

Cowboys Head Football Coach. Yeah, that as well. For me, it's just a driver, Jimmy Johnson. I don't know. See, that's a different one. That's got different levels to it. It does have different levels. Because there's two very, very famous guys who have that name.

Jimmy Johnson was a little bit before, like. He was before my time even. Like when I was four or five, that's when he was in Dallas. But he's still on TV. He is still on TV. It is weird that I went straight to the driver, but the driver is one of the more famous drivers of all time. Jimmy Johnson.

Who do you think is more famous? The coach. Okay. That's right. I think of the driver first. But the coach is definitely more famous. I agree. Although,

I don't know. NASCAR's pretty fucking big. That's an interesting question. I think people are going to be very passionate either way on that. In all the places that NASCAR is big, football is also massive. True. So I think Jimmy Johnson, the coach trumps. I think you're right.

Jimmy Johnson is the driver. You're not going to find a place where NASCAR is big and football is not equally as big. Right. That'd be a very interesting pocket of the world. The only place that, the only person, like, there's only people that, that would know Jimmy Johnson the coach and not Jimmy Johnson the driver. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Okay. I'm surprised Bones left TV. I get it and I get that, you know, caddying is his blood and that's in his DNA. But he's so good at TV and it seems like that's a much cushier job than being on Justin Thomas's bag. I was surprised, but also not surprised because, like I said, he wants to be a caddy.

And that's, I mean, Justin Thomas wants you to be his caddy. That's going to be a pretty good gig for a long time, I would imagine. Yeah. And I also noticed, like, they had Bones. Bones, I feel like was doing everything. Like, he's at all, it feels like every single tournament doing, you know, television. He was at, like, the Solheim Cup, I believe, doing TV. And then he was at the Ryder Cup.

It's like, I feel like that was almost more demanding because I don't, like, I don't know that JT plays as many weeks or when he does. I don't know that he has to be as, like, on in terms of, you know, like, television person on all that. Sure. And even if it's similar, then I think he probably makes a lot more money being JT's caddy, right?

Like, I feel like he gets 10% of what JT makes. JT can make a lot of money, but I'm not sure. And then the other thing I would say is the third thing is like I think his passion is being in the heat of it. I agree. Fucking loves that. Like he is a golf nut.

I think he loves playing golf. He loves being around golf. And I think the difference between being on TV and like describing a lie to somebody versus literally standing there with one of the best players in the world and describing and talking through what you think that lie is going to do to the golf ball. And then like having there be a real life consequence to that, I think he just likes to be, I mean, it's as close as he's going to get clearly to literally being in the ring. And I think he just likes that more than being in the booth.

Yeah, dude, JT made $6.5 million in 2021. And I know the numbers, we talk about the numbers a lot on this show. Like how does it actually shake out? that's a shit ton of money for who's ever catting for that person. With bonuses and shit, he's making like a million dollars there, and that wasn't even one of JT's good years. People talk about this year for JT as like a shitty year for him.

Right. I would imagine NBC's not paying him that type of money. Just my guess. I don't think so. And even if they were, which I don't think they are, even if they were, then like if he actually likes doing the other thing better,

then I think for him it's probably a no brain. And the other day is like, I don't know that you get the opportunity very often. I mean, JT is a, what, top five, maybe top three, I would guess, like future stock player. Right. Like when we had the conversation on the next 20 years. When we had the conversation on this show, who's going to dominate the next five years, JT was very involved in that conversation. And he's probably the odds on favorite to be the best player over the next five years.

Right. So that bag opens up and you're a guy that's been a perennial caddy that caddy for Phil Mickelson, that loves golf and being in the heat of things as much as Bones does. I mean, and clearly it had to have happened pretty quickly because I feel like they announced that on like Wednesday. And the Rider Cup finished up Sunday. And apparently Jimmy Johnson spoke to JT. So clearly in like a two day period, one or two day period, Bones was made the decision. So it must have been a pretty easy decision, I guess, from his side.

And as good as like I think Bones is very good on TV. But he clearly thinks, but I'm also way better at being a caddy. Like just because I think he's good on TV, he probably knows like, yeah, I am decent at TV, but I know that I'm very good at being a caddy. So I bet the decision was pretty easy. Yeah, I feel like being a caddy for him too is probably more natural, right? Like, yeah, it's a lot of work. It's clearly and you're on and you're traveling a lot. But also if you're doing work, you know, like if for us, it's like speaking on this podcast and everything, it's a lot of we do multiple podcasts a week, several hours.

We do prepare and all that. But like we feel like we're pretty naturally just good at this. comparing that to like if we had to do a different job that you don't necessarily think you're like naturally as good at or it doesn't come as naturally or whatever and you're doing that every week for the entire year. I imagine that factors in too and ultimately he was like yep this is what I'm good at caddy and he knows all the courses they pretty much go back to a lot of the places every year he's caddy for JT many times before there's times where he like stepped away from TV or Jimmy Johnson couldn't do it so there's a natural kind of clear chemistry

in relationship there. So, yeah, I expect big things for them with Bones being one of the most accomplished caddies ever, and JT being one of the brightest stars in the PGA tour. I imagine those two motherfuckers are going to win a lot of golf tournaments. Yep, a lot of success for those two. I mean, J.T., yeah, like you're saying, you're hitching your wagon to one of the best horses in the world. So, I mean, why would you not want to do that?

And there you go. Colt Nose. There's going to be your new spot probably where Bones is. Oh, yeah, I saw JT gave him. the stamp of approval. There you go. Big time. Big time stamp. So, and right, that's like we would never get that job, clearly. Colnello's perfect for that job.

Yep. Really good. And then Bubba Watson and Ted Scott split up. A little bit surprising. It's been 16 years. Obviously, Bubba won a couple masters. He's won, what, 12, 13 times on the PGA tour somewhere around there. A little bit surprising that they would split up just because I know they were really good friends. Bubba's gone through all his talks with mental health and how uncomfortable he is in the spotlight. And I feel like Ted Scott helped him out a ton with that.

My guess would be just to like Bubba's, I think Bubba's clearly in like the back nine of his career. He was out at the Solheim Cup, you know, as just kind of a supporter and fan and almost like pseudo assistant captain for the Solheim Cup. So again, it feels like he's almost, he's putting a lot of priority in stock into stuff outside of necessarily. his playing career. And if you're somebody like Ted Scott, I would be very surprised if Ted Scott doesn't pop up here recently that he's on a pretty big, you know, new golf bag going forward because I think he is a golf nut as well.

Every time I see him in a tournament, chat with him, like, oh, you play, and he, like, played 36 holes the day before, like no matter what area he's in when they were in New York, I think last year or two years ago, he was tweeting out, like, can anybody get me on one of the courses on Long Island? Like, he's a golf nut, so I think he, too, similar a little bit to bones. I think he sees a long-term future caddian and wants to be on a really good bag,

so maybe something opened up that he wasn't going to get another opportunity at, and therefore he kind of had to say, Bubba, I don't know that you're fully into the plankar. Who knows, but my guess, this is all pure speculation. I'm going to guess it was something along those lines, because Bubba seems a little bit checked out, if we're being honest. And 15 or 16 years, whatever was, that's just a lot of time to be with anybody, in any circumstance, in any context. Like, sometimes you just got a part ways it doesn't have to be messing.

or as amicable as people are saying. It can be in the middle, like 15, 16 years. It's just a long time to be together. And if you go with your separate ways, that's just the way that it is. Amicable. Is that the right word? Yeah, sounds right.

Amicable? I hope I said that right. I like when you throw a new vocabulary. You do some learning on this show. Amicable. I think I got that right. She got an email that we maybe did our 400th show. Does that sound right?

We did 300 a while back. So that what Mikey said includes the trailer. So today is the 400th episode. Oh. What? Is that right? Yeah. Happy 400, boys.

When people usually get balloons in this office when they do like 100 shows? I don't know. We got nothing. I don't want balloons. We just found out as we were about to leave. I actually would have rather found out the next show. Yeah, like right in the beginning maybe? Just now it feels like we're supposed to.

something. I don't necessarily, I don't really care about milestones like that. You know I like that stuff. I know. I would have enjoyed some sort of pastry. Jake, can you get, can you get Frankie balloons in a cake or something? What are you like? I'll use, I'll use my Uber Eats cash through Marshall's Sports to get you insomnia cookies. Yeah, maybe a cookie. There you go. I do want to shout out while you, maybe you guys can talk about something. I had a donut. You guys, talk amongst yourself from Hoboken. What are we going to say while you're talking about your donut?

Right. Oh, you look at it up. I'll say this. Apparently we're the ninth. We've done the ninth most episodes of any podcast at Barcelona Sports. Wow. Holy smokes. Those are just numbers that I don't think about.

Ninth most. Yeah. I mean, we've been around a while now. Dude, we've been around for four and a half years. Right. And I think for your first like two years, didn't you guys only do one episode a week? I think that's right. That's right.

I mean, like the rundowns on this. The rundown happens daily. pardon my take three times a week, KFC Radio. They used to be daily. I don't know, but those podcasts have been around for a long, like KFC Radio's been around for a good amount of time. Rundown's been around forever now. If you've listened to every show.

Dogwalk, Kirk Midahan's show are ahead of us. They do, those are, they do that all the time, right? Like Kirk does like three or four episodes a week. Yeah, Barstall Chicago puts all their podcasts on like the dogwalk feed, I believe. Gotcha. If you've listened to every episode, all 400, what's wrong with you? And then also. Thank you.

Of course. We're very happy that you've been on this journey with us. My goodness. Truly. That's huge. The ups and downs of this podcast, just like the places it's gone. I mean, go back and listen to the first one with you guys. Don't.

Don't do it. Yuck. Do not go listen to you. How bad was the first episode? I don't know. Do you remember who we first interviewed? You guys had an interview the first episode? Yeah.

Yeah. I remember who. Ali Snyder Jans. That's right. No way. That's right. Dude, we couldn't get over his hair and he just used hotel shampoo. That is so funny.

That's the thing that I remember about that interview too. That's the only thing we got out of it. I don't know we could do anything else. But it was good because we didn't want to be, again, shout out to Colton Nose. We didn't want to be like, how's your swing? Like, what's going on with it? And instead, we were like, we love that you don't wear a hat. Your hair looks great.

What kind of shampoo do you use? And he said, whatever's in the hotel. They're like, awesome. I can't find the name of that donut. We actually said in that teaser, too, the first teaser that we put out, we said this is not a PGA Tour podcast. Thank God we said that because it's protected us a lot whenever people try to chirp us about knowing anything.

We could be like, uh, four and a half years ago, we said it's not a PGA Tour podcast, so go fuck yourself. Yeah, we know. We know what we don't know. We knew we knew nothing at the time. We, not knowing what you don't know is a huge strength in life. I know nothing. Right.

I actually knew something. I have to give myself a phone. Well, actually, I just have to read an email that Seth, Seth Peeler sent us an email. as a guy that's taking some serious Ls in the golf world in the last week and a half, he sent me an email and said, not sure if Riggs has already gotten the credit he deserves, but an episode finding Phil Mickelson,

which was in August 2019, Riggs states, Phil will win a major in the next five years. And Phil, of course, went on to win the PGA. No clue I said that. I think we've documented many times in this show that we don't even remember what we talk about,

but Seth was clearly listening to an old show, and I predicted something correct. So as dumb as we are, I have to credit myself, so that I get a W because I need one. so thank you to me. Yeah, we'll give you that one. You can have that.

Thank you. I'm going to say that I probably agreed with you. It's not very nice. All right. And then a couple other things. Danny Willett wins the Dunhill Links. Danny Willett, I haven't heard his name in a really long time. He won it on his birthday.

And he was the first player on the PG or the European Tour to win on his birthday since like 2004 or something. I saw that, that's that. Did it at the old course. The Dunhill Links is an incredibly cool tournament. They do Carnusty. The old course of St. Andrews and Kings Barnes. And it's very cool. unfortunately they're especially I'm out in Arizona.

They're like eight hours ahead, so I missed the whole damn thing. But shout to Danny Willett. Still kicking out there. And then Stu Hoggastod won the U.S. Midameter. We had him on the show a couple years ago maybe or a year ago. Yeah. That gets him back into the master.

So he'll be playing at Augusta, which is fucking awesome for Stu. He's a good dude. He's a big listener of the show. So congrats to Stu Haggastod, winning the U.S. midameter for the second time. And then I just wanted to shout out Freddie couples for having the most aesthetically pleasing golf swing

in the history of the world because the video of him is making the rounds right now of his swing over the last like 50 years and it's just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen obviously we all know that always no glove on freddie he the thing about it is like stunning you almost don't want to see freddie swing until you're you've already been into the game for a few years because you see if that's the first swing that you see you're like this game's cake everything about this game is so easy you just swing so free and so flowy and then you find out that it's a nightmare everything is a nightmare you're like this game Marin, that he is the exception to the rule.

That is the game of golf. You think Stu Hagedstad pisses other amateurs off? Yeah, definitely. Probably drives him fucking nuts. He's probably the most hated guy on the amateur circuit. Well, I think, too, he has the means to basically be a professional golfer, it seems like, without really being a professional golfer. Like, I think he gets to play and practice at really sweet places all the time,

which is great. credit to him or his family or whatever. That's awesome that you shouldn't be shit on for that. It's like a super bad. But I imagine he gets shit on for that a lot by other amateurs. The way he looks, he shows up to these things and these other guys that like, like you're saying, like probably don't have the same like access and means that he's able to. Like he just shows up, beats them, gets invited to all the best tournaments in the world.

And, you know, he's just laughs at them essentially being like, thanks for showing up, fellas. See you at the country club next week. It's like, no, you won't actually. I'm just an amateur. I play it fucking Bethpage Black. I thought I had it this year, but you showed up again and you beat me. I don't know what to do.

Dude, I laugh at it. Every time I see this guy holding up a trophy, he's like, he's invited to the fucking US Open again. It's like, what the fuck is Stu doing? Dude, he finishes like low am. I feel like at the U.S. Open all the time. He gets to play in the Masters.

He plays in like the Walker Cup all the time, which the Walker Cup, like everybody's in high, everybody's in college. And, you know, and then there's like this 30, whatever year old guy out there who just, just cleans up and is like winning matches in the Walker Con. So yeah, I think he pisses a lot of amateurs off, which I love. I think that's great. His name is John Stuart Hagastod the third. It's just the name is a fucking supervillain. He's a super villain born in Newport Beach, California. He's 30. 30 years old. I mean, he's got probably one of the best jobs ever, too. I think I read something. Whatever his title is at his real job is laugh out loud funny.

See if I can find it quickly. It's great. I will say he beat this guy, Costanza that he beat, shout out to George. There's no way that's that guy's name. A Morristown, New Jersey investment banker on the first stage of his honeymoon. So like, he's not the only one out there. That's clearly got a pretty good gig. Like if you can make it, the midameter too, right?

Like you got to be above. I think the age is 25. So basically they're eliminating all the young college fucking studs. So then it's like who's got the best life that also gets to play golf and become really good at it all the time. The tournament. That's pretty much what the tournament is. Wow.

He's in real estate, whatever he does. Hell yeah. Stu, he's in real estate. He went to the University of Southern California Marshall School of Business. God, Stuart. Also, his name being John Stewart's hilarious. A residential and management financial analyst.

Right. It's just like that guy, I mean, he just hits absolute pearls on the driving range every day. That's what he does. They're like, put him on the employee list so that we can just play golf with them and have them be one of our guys. Exactly. He's got one of the best gigs in all of golf, Stu Haggastad. He gets to do everything. He gets to fucking do everything. He plays in the Masters. He plays in the U.S. Open. He wins trophies. He like, and then he doesn't have to do any of the grind.

He just gets to go work a regular job and probably not even do that. I mean, Stu Hagastat has it figured out, man. Hats off to him. Sorry to everyone else. He just leaves us. in his fucking path. He's a, he's like a dynasty. He's a dynasty when it comes to like mid-am winning. Is he not? Like he's just always in these tournaments. He's always in the U.S. Open and the Masters.

Even though maybe he's not, maybe he's only done it once or twice, I don't know. I just feel like I've seen Stu Augusta for the last five years every fucking year. It's a name we hear a lot. A lot. We see him. We saw him at Pebble Beach. He's carrying his own bag. It's like, it's like a, he's like a cartoon character.

He just shows up at the, the biggest events in golf and they somehow let him play. I just, like, don't get what happens. Stu Hogg's. He's an amateur golf circuit super villain. Absolutely. Everything about him. We got to talk to, like, who's his, like, who's his Phil Mickelson that, like, finishes, like, runner up to him every single year?

Like, you know what I mean? Like, who's the guy that really- Who's getting fucked the most by Stu Hoggast? Who could have been Stu Haggastod all these years, you know? That feels like a good underground documentary that we could make. Who got fucked? the most by Stu Hogastard. There's definitely one guy that's like finished runner up to him like three times.

Like just the most down-to-earth blue-collar dude of all time that that just misses a putt on like 18. Like Stu just laughs at him as he just taps in for the win. They just hand him like his little ticket to Augusta. God. Wow. It's funny. All right, boys. We got anything else in those brains over there?

No. Shout out to Dr. Brown. Dr. Bennett Brown, you know, a good man with great hands. Although we don't know. We don't know yet. It's still early. Maybe he botched me up. Seems like things are headed in the right way.

We'll see if I have a big scar. Maybe I'll get a nice tattoo there or something, you know? Would you ever get a tattoo? No. No? Not even of the Borrelli's logo. The Borrelli's logo guy is pretty sick. Yeah.

Yeah. You're not a tattoo guy. No. I don't know if nobody on this podcast is really a tattoo. I'll say fucking date Trent might be a tattoo guy. Oh. What are you doing? I don't know what I'm doing.

So it all, it started Friday morning when I wore. It started way before that. I took that picture of you with those like shady rays on that one time. Oh, you got to get rid of these fucking glasses. I know. People say,

they say two things. They say get rid of the glasses or just update your glasses. Because they look, my glasses look like they're from 1995. They are from 1995. Pretty much. But what happened was I wore a blue, uh,

a blue, crew neck, a Pebble Beach Golf Links crew neck that I bought. I love it. And I walked in on Friday morning and three people as soon as I walked in said, you look great today. You look amazing. What's different about you? And I basically was like, well, I usually wear the same thing every day.

Or color. Which is a black crew neck and khakis. But I guess when I put on color, you know, my eyes pop a little bit more and I look a a little bit better. And then I went on Friday Night Pints and that became a topic of discussion. And also on that Friday Night Pints episode was our guy. rude boy, Rudy, who does the stool scenes camera, people know who he is. He is a cool, good-looking guy.

National champion of Denver hockey. He's a hot guy. Rudy's great. He's great. He's great. He's awesome. Does he still wear that shell necklace? Didn't he wear that for a while?

So a part of this is that he has recently started to accessorize where he just starts throwing on different things like the necklace or a ring or whatever. And that day he was wearing a metal, a metal choker essentially and a backer. If I wore a choker, they'd either send me the fucking hospital or they'd just arrest me. There's no other option. That's the conversation that Kevin and I, KFC and I had where we were saying, like, him and John Fidelberg can show up in these things and people are like, that kind of works. But if you or me or Kevin did it, we'd be thrown into a loony bin.

For sure. So during this Friday night pint episode that Rudy was on, he had the necklace and the backwards hat and I was wearing the blue crew neck and we decided to throw all of Rudy's accessories onto me and see what it looked like. and I took my glasses off. I put the backwards hat on. I put the choker necklace on. And Ria took a picture of me and put it out there.

And it got incredible reviews. From the ladies. From the ladies and the men. From both sexes. It hit in both places. I said he turned me on. Right. I mean,

you looked cool and hot, I would say, in that photo. And a big part of it is the no glasses. If I were just to get contacts and I, if I wore it backwards hat every day, apparently the Clark Kent thing is very real. It's very real, man.

And it's just crazy to me that you know that there's a, there's a variant of you of Trent Ryan that can just look the way that you looked on that, that tweet all the time and you're choosing to not look like that. Well, let me ask you this. You're actually choosing not to look like that. Can I make the switch? 100%. Is that allowed?

Yes. Like, I've been wearing glasses now forever. I've been on camera. I've done all this with glasses. Like, I don't know if I can make the full-time switch. What do you mean you don't know, Riggs? you got your fucking eyes fixed.

Yeah, people were mad about it. People were like, ruined the fucking thing. I think for Trent, yeah, but for us, no, it's exactly like the eyes thing. You got the eyes fixed and you shaved your head. And I think, I mean, you look better. Right. Like, we just accept it now. Like, you sure, you go through some shit for like a week, but like we just accept.

That's why you did it. Like you did exactly what we're saying for him to do. And you're saying no. And skeet shit. I think it's the right move. I'm not saying that we're going to be able to accept it right away. Like, it's going to be, you're going to have to go through some speed bumps to get like acceptance from us.

But yeah, for you personally, you absolutely should do it. It has to do it. We're not going to be happy about it. What if I just split time? No, if I start like doing a little bit. You got to get the glasses line out of there. Right.

It's pretty prominent. And when you've worn glasses your whole life, I think your eyes like sink in a little bit. They're going to have to come out a little bit. I will say like the response was really nice and people are like, oh, you look so much better. But indirectly, that is them saying that the way I currently look. Oh, yeah.

Is worse. Like a lot worse. put like a screenshot of what you currently look like in the one and the and the hot guy trent picture and they're just like can you believe this is trent and i was just like well that's that's that's trend on the left that we're like we're glossing over the fact that's how he's going to look the rest of his life like why you know it was kind of mean like you're saying right like in five minutes he's going to look like what you're saying no one should ever look right right that's just how i normally look i wake up and i put on all of my clothes and my

glasses and that's how I always look. Listen, I think you, for all the people that can't make such a drastic change, like, I can't drastically change. The only day I ever change my look is when I play in Pup Punk and I'm able to throw on a bandana. I let the hair go out and everyone's like, oh, you should look like that all the time. But that's not realistic. You know, I'm not going to walk around with a fucking bandana around my head and curly hair

coming out and fucking black emo clothes. All you got to do is just get contacts. You have a chance to upgrade your look. I can't upgrade my look. I am a white-dowy user-one avatar on Wii type of person. You have a chance to upgrade. You can go to like user four right now. Like you're able to upgrade yourself.

But you dabble, Frankie. You dabble. Like occasionally you just assume this different character. You wear a cool guy's shirt. You wear like a totally unorthodox outfit to a wedding. You'll show up for a four-man scramble. Biggest video we're ever doing it. You're just dressed exactly like Bubba Watson.

Yeah. The mustache is not. Yeah, true. See, I tried, though. But you don't do it permanent. You do dabble and then you just go back to you. Right, because it's on the stuff I do are so extreme. I can't wear turtlene next to every wedding.

I can't have a mustache like that anymore and stand by a school. Like you can't do any of that stuff. You are able to change your life by just getting contacts or LACA eye surgery. I think I'm going to do it. You have to do it. I think I'm going to do it. Personal level, I think you should. Dude, I will say like, we're going to miss.

We're going to miss like classic Trent. Big time. But dude, if you, if you got LASIC eye, like if you're going to do it, you should get that eye surgery. Why would you willingly want to change to go put plastic in your eyeballs? I have contacts and I fucking hate them. I've had them since I was in seventh grade. I can't take it.

You're eligible for it, Trent? Do you know that? I don't, I have no idea. What's the eligibility? How does that even work? All I know is my buddy. Like, how come you couldn't do it, Frankie? But he could.

I haven't tried. I haven't tried. I haven't tried. I've got to do it, though. I've got to have way too many proceedings. procedures lined up this year for me. I got to fucking, I got to just like stay away. There's also a little bit of comfort to me if I were to get glass or if I were to get contacts as opposed to getting LASIC that I can't still wear the glasses sometimes.

Why would you want bad vision to like wear the glasses? You could just wear the glasses without bad vision. Yeah. Just put glass in there. I buddy Rob, who's an absolute nightmare, got LASIC eye surgery. It's the only positive he's had in his life for the last, I don't know, four or five years. He's the same guy that got his, he got his fucking teeth knocked out of him back when we were in, like, 11th grade. And his tooth's been falling out in his ham sandwich.

He never laughs at work. He fell down the attic getting his Christmas stuff for his mom. The, the, um, decorations? Yeah, but the ladder gave out. He fell down the stairs, almost broke his spine. He hasn't been walking the same since. He fell at the Mets game recently. I didn't tell you that.

He split his fucking finger open. He goes to physical therapy. He has to do this little bending thing just to get his finger. range back. That guy, that same guy, got LASIC eye surgery and it went well. So I think for you, I think it's a no-brainer that Trent Ryan gets LASIC eye surgery, takes those glasses off. I mean, I'll never forget my one of my buddies from school got LASIC and I picked him up from the from post-surgery. He came back to my apartment at the time and hung out. And we were watching ESPN. and after like 30 seconds he just goes wait you guys could just read the ticker on the bottom of the screen the whole fucking time and I was a and we just had a legitimate conversation where he was just seeing clearly all the stuff on the screen that he previously could never read that's actually interesting because the moment I knew I needed glasses was when I couldn't read the ticker on ESPN because I worked a nine to five job in front of a computer where you're just staring at a computer and it's just burning your eyeballs all.

day and then I noticed I couldn't read like the roster or the batting average that was going across the ticker and I was like oh I'm fucked oh so you didn't wear glasses in like high school no oh wow I thought you were like an all like a glasses I thought I thought Trent Ryan had those like little silicone glasses like the little babies where you know and their eyes are all like messed up I've probably been a glasses guy for you had those glasses right yeah I'm trying to find picture right now oh my god it's so good I guess like a little over a decade a little over a little over a decade that I've been a glass. Oh.

So you were a big boy when you had glasses. You weren't like... I was a big boy, yeah. Yeah. I, um, makes me nervous, but I kind of want to get LASIC. 100%, dude. I've heard that, and I'm going to get it. I just need to stay away from procedures for a little bit because I know I got to get my left

arm done too. I, um, I've heard it's the best money. If they charge 20 grand, people would do it, the people that have done it. I think it's like a couple grand each I. I've heard that if they charge $20,000, that people would do it again. That's how life-changing it is. You wake up, dude, and you have vision.

Which is so foreign to me, I can't even explain. You go to sleep and watch a movie. You have vision until you fall asleep. That stuff to me is nuts. Last night, I watched the Sunday night football game, and I had to wear my glasses while I watched the game. I was starting to get tired, and I had to have my glasses on,

and then I wanted to take them off, but then something else happened in the game and put my glasses back on, and then I'm not tired anymore. It's like, imagine just falling asleep. In one of the clips that came out from the Friday Night Pines when I'm putting on the half, hat and I've got the necklace on, I go to push my glasses back on my head and I look like

the biggest loser in the world. Because I'm just so used to that. I don't know. I'm honestly split on it because I feel like you're a successful single man in New York City. Go make yourself look hot. What's wrong? I agree.

Do it, Trent. I want, I'm rooting for you to do it. I'm also putting in the caveat that I'm, we are going to be publicly upset about it for at least a few weeks. I do think there will be backlash about me not wearing glasses. You're saying not to worry about that. Like that's also a new era of Trent. Like hot Trent's hilarious.

Right, but I like this era currently. It seems like things are going pretty well. They are going well, but you think it's all because of your glasses? Who knows? Well, you think like hot Trent's just going to bring all these new problems into his life now? What if that happens? How bad are you guys going to feel? If I get LASIC done and then my life turns to shit.

You're stuck and start wearing your dorky glass. Right. If that happens. Okay. I think I'm going to look into LASIC and if I'm too scared. How do I do that? We can talk about that after. for a consult. Okay. And if that, if they are, if they say no to that, I'll just get contacts and that'll

be my one. You're going to have so many LASIC people reach out to you now. You're going to hate contacts. You're going to fucking hate contacts. I'm used to them now, but you're putting plastic in your eyeballs. They burn like a motherfucker in that first month. You're just like, ah, dude, waking up, going to work and putting plastic in your eyeballs when you're fucking tired. Oh, it's the worst feeling in the war. I was just like, oh. I'll look. I'm going to look into all this. And then I'll get back to you. But I appreciate the support. And if you're a LASIC person, want to do a two-for-one shot,

hit me and Trent up. I'll go with him. If you want to do four eyeballs for the price of one, hit us up. Right. Even if it's in like an alleyway somewhere. Yeah, I'll go somewhere.

Hit us up. Okay. I'm done with this show. All right. How mad do you think Jake Bass is that we're still going on this fucking... He's actually his demeanor seems pretty good right now. Oh, it's relatively early, I guess. It's only, what, four o'clock over there?

I've been trying to be a more positive human being. There you go. Did you take some of the drugs that Frankie gave you? No, I just, I think after the Michigan trip, I took a look at myself and I was like, you know what? It's just a job. Are you microdosing mushrooms? No. Okay.

I'm trying to relax too. Maybe all that stuff just changed us, you know? Maybe the band in and just like traveling. Much like Bryce and Deschambeau, I think it's going to go back to its regular ways. Well, I did start getting a little hot about the cult stuff. So I felt myself, I was running down the, running down a hill again. Yeah. We need that.

That's you, be you, Frankie. Right. Just maybe, you know, we can all try to be a little bit better version of ourselves, but be you. But you don't feel that way about my glasses, to be clear. Where it's like, you can't change your persona. It's just got to look hotter. No, dude. Also, it's just, it gets, Frankie said it with me.

It's like, it just gets accepted. Like, remember the first day I came with a shaved head and everyone's like, oh, my fucking God. And now it's like, I cried that way. I was horrified. I didn't know what they do. No, I just. It was just jarring. Right, but now it looks very normal.

I can't imagine you. This is what I look like all the time. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm going to look into it. I've looked like this for two years. It's just like what I look like.

Right. That's just, he would just be hot, Trent. Like, you've looked like that for two years. He used to not look like this 10 years ago. You know what I mean?

There's no difference there. Like now, then after two years, you'll have only looked like that for 10 years of your life and 30 years of your other life. Okay. It's also like, look at Dave. Dave was like a grotesque,

like fat fucking guy blogging in his basement. And he got better looking. His life's gone pretty good, I would say, in the last three or four or five years. Getting hot does bring in the dollars. Or a chicken in the egg. I think the hot people usually win that argument. Dave's the anti-that, though. Dave got hot.

Once the money started coming in. I think he had money coming in for a while, but money like really started coming in. Like real money. Super real money. Yeah. True. All right. I'm going to look into it and I probably will.

At some point, I'm not going to have glasses in the near future. And it's not some irreversible thing Like your current persona You just put glasses on Like Frankie said Why would you want to just have shitty vision To keep your persona going? That doesn't matter

Just get better vision And then you just wear the glasses And just lie to people all the time If you want to Okay You could just have the no prescription glass I could have it right now PFT has

He didn't wear glasses He wore glasses for like five years He just took them off For the first time Right He goes home And takes his sunglasses off Things are changing

Feels like Big time So I can I'll change. Unless you get crazy backlash after the show being like you can't take those glasses off. Yeah, you are going to get that. I'll get some of it. The only constant is change.

So just change. If that happens, I mean, so many people care about what you look like and they care about the show that they literally don't want the show to change. And even if it means that your glasses come off. So that's actually a positive. You take that lightly. There you go.

The guy's glasses off right now. It is jarring. Now I can't really see. Riggs is a blob. Dude, it's... that it's it's literally like when you take your glasses off somehow it forms like a jawline on you like a nice strong jawline on your face i had a bunch of people tweeting me saying that i don't know if i can get used of this yeah a lot of people saying like oh we all we i'm for years i made fun of the clark kent superman thing and now it's like

they didn't think that glasses could change a person's face that much turns out mine kind of do that it's what do you think i don't know it's just like started scary dude it's fucking horrifying See, this is what I don't want to have to deal with. I can't look at you. I can't look at you in the eyes. I can't. I also couldn't look rigs in the eyes when he got his fucking eyes fix.

It's just weird. When I went over to you that day, Frankie, I'll never forget the conversation you have with me. You're like, that's just not you. Right. I'm not looking at you. That's like if my dad showed up with no mustache, I don't know what I would do.

See, now you're arguing the other side of it. You understand? I know, because I'm looking at you. You're hard to look at. It's hard to look at you. I can't do it. I feel uncomfortable. All right.

Hit it hard. It's not saying you look bad. I'm just saying it's uncomfortable to look at you without glasses on. It looked better. It's just, yeah, I agree. It's weird. I don't know who that is.

When you look at the screen, dude, I just want to look away. Put your glasses on, dude. Put your glasses on. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.