Fore Play - Narc Riggs, And Did Jack Nicklaus’ Short Game Suck?

Episode Date: April 30, 2020

It’s an old school show. Just the crew. First, we debate if Riggs is a squid for narc’ing on some golfers at Pinehurst. Then we discuss Jack’s short game. How bad was it? Why was it not up to the standards of the rest of his game? We also take more From The Galleries and discuss each others’ games. Throwback episode!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is going to be our first show in a long time with no guests. We're going old school. We're going to rip through a bunch of From the Gallery, submissions, questions, comments that you folks have had. Tobacco Road is live. I think people love it. I think they're stunned at the production value.

We talked a lot about it on Monday show, or Tuesday show, but it was something. that's obviously quite different than anything we've ever done before. We had narration. We had interviews. We had an arsenal of drone footage to work with. We had Brendan Ebug has immersed himself in the whole thing since he pretty much got hired input from Frankie, from Trent, from myself. Lurch wasn't there again, so he can go fuck himself.

But other than that, I mean, it's just, yeah, no, it's out. I think people like it. I'm excited that people get to see it. Yeah, I think, oh man, I don't like that. I can't hear myself with these new headphones on. I think that it was well received. I think people like to see the golf course. I think it's an easy watch.

It's entertaining from beginning to end. I'm excited to do more. Like we said, that was our first one. So, like, we're getting feedback. We're working at the Kings. And, like, we have six or seven more of these that we're going to release, hopefully in the near future, like, as it keeps going on. But, like, you know, tinkering with certain things and seeing what works.

But I think, like, the actual recipe for that video is going to work forever. Like, people want to see from tea to green. They love the drone footage. They loved the little interviews that we did. I think it's a really easy watch to actually see what the golf course is all about. And the more we do that across golf courses, it's like our arsenal of, you know, Trent not being able to get out of a bunker is going to work every single time.

It makes me laugh every time. I just, you know, I couldn't get out of that one bunker. And it's just, it's a nightmare sometimes for me. But yeah, it makes people laugh. So I guess that's a positive. I think it seems like the common man struggle too throughout a course. Like every one of us has a different golf game where we struggle with something about the course. And so with that it brings you to all different parts of the course.

And like seeing Trent get out of a bunker or whatever it may be, putting, chipping, like the wave of the, you know, the T to Green sets up and like where you need to hit it. I think it's all there. And it's awesome as just the documentation of like that course and what that course is going to bring to you if you actually arrive and get there. stand on the first tape. Yeah, Lurch, you're the only one here that, I mean, you've watched it and seen it and basically viewed it as a viewer who didn't necessarily experience it. So what are your, what are your thoughts on the video? Yeah, I mean, I think it's awesome. I think the little tidbits of interviews with people that are like local to the course are awesome. I mean, drone footage changes the game

on what you can do with like, you know, the production value. I mean, the aerial footage that you get from drones, I think is just tremendous. And I know, like, your three personalities. And it's super funny just to watch that unravel over the course of the back of road. So I mean, it's, and to Frankie's point on yesterday's bird, two days ago, a podcast, it's just like, it's so watchable. Like, you know, like there's a lot of content that I put out there.

I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah. You know, my voice, whatever, just my body. I mean, yeah, oh, you're genius. Whatever, you guys are idiots. have us. We just agreed with what you said. We were just letting your story go.

That was very much what I'd do to myself, what you used to do. No. But anyways, it's, yeah, I mean, it's just an easy watch and it's great content. Drone footage honestly feels like cheating. Yes, like when you're putting together a video game. Yeah. It's just like, like the videos would be good, but when you put drone footage on it, it's just, it's a whole different thing. And it's not like we did anything.

We just put a fucking machine. machine in the air and we're like check out this golf course and it's it blows people's mind it's incredible and then shout out to joey too he's he's he's oh yeah he's yeah i want to like tinker with him and see like i think it'd be funny to see how many different variations he could do like could do a gym nance or like uh you know what i mean like see like each episode like a different narration like joey's arsenal of voices and switch it up like dependent on where we're at in the world and stuff like that like that listen we're a comedy site right we're not going out there and putting it on ABC news like this is another thing that's been driving me nuts like oh oh like other people may

have made a video like this before and other podcasts and other websites are we are are is making a video at a golf course the first time that's ever been done has is this the first time do we think that we were breaking ground being like hey we're going to go to this golf course and we're going to make a video about it and we're going to show what the golf course is about We're not the first people to do that. And people before us were not the first people to do that as well. Like, yeah, it took us a while to get this out. But like we went there, what, six months ago, seven months ago?

We're not like scouring the internet being like, hey, what kind of content can we look at and be like, oh, that works. Let's do it for us. Like we're just like, we're a golf podcast. There's no getting around that. Like we talk about golf and we get paid as an employees to talk about the game of golf. We're trying to make videos about it. So we went to a golf course and we filmed ourselves making a video. you at a golf course.

It drives me nuts. Was Dave Porter the first person to review food? No, but he's so funny. He's taken over the internet because he just reviews pizza. That's just what he does. Like, what do you be like, oh, Guy Fieri's been doing that for 25 years? What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

Yeah, what I would also say, too, is like there's no world where I wouldn't want as a golf fan to see, like, more videos of really cool golf courses, right? It'd be, it's almost like if somebody says, like, I've already seen, like, a video from Tobacco Road, it'd be like, well, wait, well, you've already seen a video of the Masters every year, like of Augusta National. So why do you watch? It's insane. It's like, no, no.

Like, that's just, if you're a golf person, you're going to like and want to see as much footage of these courses and these places as you can. So, uh, so yeah, I mean, again, I'm, I'm pumped with how it came out. I'm like, I think the feedback has been insane. I think people, a lot of people too were pretty like, oh my God, you guys like, wait, you idiots actually did this. And we did. We were very prideful going in.

I'm like, what's film everything our stuff? I think the only thing that wasn't filmed by us was the hilarious, like Mike Strant's little clip that was put in that we found last second from one of his interviews. And obviously, like the late Mike Strant, so it's not like we could sit down and interview him, but everything else, all the drones, all the B-roll, all of the interviews that we sat down with, all of the clips of our shots and everything were shot edited by us. It's our own footage, which is cool. Like our little crew of five or six is able to go out there and like get that footage to

speak to the technology like five like even when I talk with with Tom Ashley here who's been on the show we talked about a million times of president of pioneers he's like yeah when we redid uh pioneers number two in like 2010 we wanted aerial footage so badly and he's like we had to pay like 20 grand to get a helicopter to fly over the fucking golf course and that was like a deck not even a decade ago and now we can go to tobacco road we can go to piner's number eight which will be the next video probably in the next week maybe two weeks that we'll be able to get out then number two than number four, and we're able to like circle around the hole, look straight down on it, fly through the fucking trees.

And like, we can just go film that and do that. And it's incredible. Like Brendan and I, Ebug and I have been doing it at Piner's number eight for the last two days. We've probably spent it four hours at Piner's number eight with no golf, just legitimately droning. He's like, fly, like just go over that water. And I'll go over the trees. And we can just do it.

It's like we're fucking God with a camera in our hands. And we can just go film the earth from wherever we want to. It's crazy. so cool. And it's, and there's really no limit to what, what we can do. That wasn't a Corona top. What's, what's going on there? Oh my. Frank. Frank. I just, I just, talk to talk to me, Frankie. I just had, I just had a couple water before we started here. And it's been, it has been a tickle in the back of my throat because I went down the wrong pipe before I came on here. And I just needed to let one out. Like, I've been holding it in,

but I needed to let one out. I feel great now. But yeah, yeah, there's no limit to like what you can do with the drones, which is amazing. You can go real low. You can show it from like a person's perspective. Like I was putting some stuff on my Instagram story last night. And like the one shot of, what hole is that? With the crazy mound by the green. And it's got the, oh, is that the part five, like 13th?

But it's got the buildings behind it. It's by the sign, the tobacco roadside. 13th, yeah. But like you were so low with that drone that it literally looks like you're walking down the fairway. It's my favorite shot of the whole entire video. It's like you're just floating down the fairway on one of those like back to the future like skateboard things, the hoverboards that he was riding on. It's so cool. And I'm just so excited to see the rest of like the next couple golf courses because we got like caddies involved, which is so much more to the story. Like I thought

some of the funniest parts were like going back and like talking like when when like you heard what I said during like an interview or like someone else was talking about someone else's shot. Like that's what in piner's number two and four and all those golf courses that we played with our caddies. That's what that's all about is like them talking shit about our shots. It's like it's going to be so good. I can't wait for it to all come out. Yeah, we did. We did the long sit-down interviews with the caddies after we played both those courses

and they went through and reacted to and kind of remembered how we hit certain shots, which were horrendous and awful, as you can imagine us playing the crown greens at piner's number two, playing Gil Hanses, Pioneer's number four, playing the hidden gem that is Pioneer's number eight. So all that's coming. We also have,

what, four or five episodes from Australia that we're going to get out from the President's Cup trip. So there's a lot to look forward to. That's must watch because, like, 99.999% of the people that are listening to this

or consume our content will not be going to Australia to play golf. It's just a fact. Like, it's too far. It's too much of a trip. Like, less than 1% of the people that will listen to this or watch our stuff will go there.

and that is something like, oh, let me go watch this video of people who went to another world and played golf. Like, that's, like anyone can go to Tobacco Road. Like, when we put out the fucking Australia stuff where you didn't even know that stuff existed, that's where it's really going to hit you hard. And some of those drone shots are unreal. I remember that one over the beach when running over the dune. And I hit one onto a beach. And I had to run back over the dune onto the golf course.

And you guys got the shot up from the ocean of me running across. the best drone shot that's ever been done. I'm talking like planet Earth, anything. It's the best drone shot of all time. Yeah, it's a cool mix too because like tobacco, like we're getting a bunch of comments now for people that are like, hey, I'm going, I had a trip book to Tobacco Road or I played Tobacco Road last, last fall for the first time. So being able to like relive all the holes was insane. And then you're going to get the other side of it where it's like, oh, Australia, we might as well have flown to Mars and filmed us playing golf for, for the, you know, for people to compare it or have some sort of relativity. So you're going to get a good mix.

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Okay. We got some headlines. Someone just tweeted out this picture, when the wall eats your ball. It's on 18 from the. to back a road video. Like three, three golfers playing to back a road should not be in that, like, area.

Like, that's like, that is what four plays all about is that, like, they can take a screenshot of three people looking at a wall of just, like, cement and, like, looking for a golf ball.

Dude, it's where we find out of us. It just should have swallowed it. Absolutely crazy. And look, if you want to watch videos of guys going out and playing really good golf, hitting it down the middle of fairways, hitting it the middle of green,

two putting a couple of birdies and shooting like four or five under, like you can watch performance. professional golf. There's all kinds of footage of professional golf all over the place. The way that most people in the world play golf courses is how we play golf courses, which is not particularly well. We're going to be, Frankie's going to be 100 yards left on the first hole at Tobacco Road and ruin his really cool blueberry outfit and his nice shoes. We're going to be in the hill, on the cave, on the 18th hole. We're going to be in all kinds of awful place. Me and Trent couldn't get out of the bunker on nine. We just couldn't get out of

that gigantic fucking 50-yard high bunker. And that's just how most people play. Like our caddies said that. They're like, honestly, 95% of people that we caddy for, they play this golf course, just like you guys played it. And so that's what you're going to get to see. So I narked on somebody a couple nights ago on the golf course. Yep, felt great. So, so Pioneer's number two and Pioneers number four are no carts on the fairways, right? Carts on the cart path only. And we go out at like 5 p.m. And it's just me and Brennan. They closed the course at like three because they're limited staff. They don't want like members sneaking out or other people sneaking out on the course and like driving over the fairways because number four, number two are exceptionally special and they're

trying to keep them pristine. Cards all over the fairway don't make them as pristine so that there's a no cart rule. Well, me and eBug go out at like 5 p.m. The course has been closed for a couple hours. I hit up my guys and hey, we're going to go out and film a couple things. We filmed like a Riggs verse video, a daily nine, took some photos, whatever. And we're on the second hole. I've got, I'm trying to film myself. I've got the drone in the sky. I'm on the green. and I see like three carts come buzzing down the fairway all go into their balls and everybody's doing the isolated cart thing of one person in a cart you know so there's three carts they're flying I got my drone in the sky I'm hitting my shot I get a little bit

hurried I'm like all right to finish up go stand on the next tee which overlooks the thing and I'm looking out there and they're like driving their carts right over by like the green on the second green on piner's number four and I'm like well now what the fuck is going on here so I take a picture send it to my guy my worst send it to my guy who works in the pro shop and I just say hey I got are there like I just wasn't sure if these like guys that work here like what's going on and he goes like what fucking hole are you on and I'm like you know I'm on the second hole on number four and he's like I'm going to get my martial out there right now I had to look awful at this point because these guys I'm standing

on the tea these guys they come by and they're like I'm like you know we're just filming like please go ahead like don't worry about us they're like all right cool like no worries they tee off five seconds after they tee off, Marshall shows up and just kicks them off the golf course. Turns out these three guys didn't pay to play at all. They just snuck on to Pioneer's number four, which cost hundreds of dollars. We're buzzing all over the fairways and all by the Greens

and got kicked off and busted for that because I knocked on. Frankie Borrelli, how do you feel about this? I want to say a few things right now. Okay? Yeah. Last night I hopped the fence at a, golf course. Last night, I hopped the fence by a golf course. I probably could get arrested for saying this. I hop the fence by a golf course by my house and I met my friends on the fourth hole of a particular

golf course. They paid to play. I was editing pizza. Six o'clock came around. They're like, hey, we're on the fourth hole. I got my car, drove about 100 feet, hopped the fence by my old baseball field. People were looking at me on the green. I said, don't look over here. No problem. You worry about making that par pot up there. There's no story over here. Keep you. Keep you. You, Keep your eyes down. Keep your eyes on the prize. I hop this fence. I walk across like it was none of my business.

And I had a great day, you know. I didn't ruin anyone's day. I didn't fucking hurt anyone. You know, I couldn't make the team time. The owner of the golf course. No, I didn't. Like,

I wasn't going to go there. So I wasn't going to pay anyway. So, like, they didn't lose or gain any of my money. So, like, nothing was going to happen. You know what I mean? Like,

I wasn't going to go had I not hop that fence. So that money was never going to their pocket. Here's the other point. Is that like, I just wanted to hit a couple of, golf balls. I played a hole four. We went to a hole 11, 13, 12, and then I hop back over the fence and I went home. So

my point being is like if guys want to go out and hit and they get past all the rules and regulations, whatever they do, like, as long as you're not the one in charge, like let these guys live their life. Now, the other part I want to say, though, is that if they're driving the carts, that's another thing like that, that's a

double rule. I wouldn't have said a fucking word if they were driving their, they almost were driving their carts on the green. Now here's my third point. Was there ever a point when you were flying this when you were flying this drone around like what's his name from ozark noah or what's the young Jonah Jonah and he's flying the drone over watching the cartel kill people if um if if you like was there a moment when you were doing that narkin on these guys saying like they were playing for free and all and stuff like when you're just out there at five o'clock and the golf course is closed at three and like

you're you're getting like treatment like special treatment just for being out there for free like was there every moment where it's like oh maybe I shouldn't like narc on these guys like I'm out here for two months playing like unlimited golf not at all I get approved by them I said like you didn't know it's any way I could go out and play number four this afternoon or like would that not be kosher and they say yeah no problem just obviously you got to like walk okay I'm out there so then when I see the signs of the course is closed I see people disrespecting the golf course which has become one of my babies. Piner's 74.

But you didn't know that they weren't, didn't pay until like you had rattled on them. No, I knew that they're, literally no, if you're a member, if you're Tiger Woods, you can't drive on the fairways at Pinerston IV.

Right, right. That, yeah, okay. So like, I clearly knew it was people that were up to no good. Mine did they get carts. Yeah,

where do they get carts? That's a good question. We were trying to figure that out. I don't know. Or I was thinking. I like the cut of these guys gyms, man. They were full fucking grand theft auto on Pinehurst ass and they stole golf cards.

I've stolen a golf cart. before. I've got the- Or it could have come from their home or something like that. Maybe they just drove it from the- I was back when I was like 14 years old I took someone's golf cart

that was probably in the clubhouse getting like food. What? Like you're a problem to society. The fact that you're sitting here like, I'm somehow the wrong in this situation. You're like jumping on ruining greens by hitting golf balls,

which is a story you told a million times. Jumping on a golf course and being like, well, I wasn't going to pay anyway. So really like, how does it harm anybody? Now you're stealing golf carts.

Oh, we drove it around the clubhouse and we parked it back because we realized it was probably someone's. There was a sandwich on the scene. No, there was no golf clubs on the back. We were like 13 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, why don't we like take this cart? Like, we're not allowed to come anyway. We came and drive a car. And I remember getting in the cart and then we drove and were like, you know what? There's no way that this cart was just here. Like, like this has to have been someone that was in the clubhouse, getting food or going to the bathroom.

So we drove it back. And by the time we left, no one had noticed that we took it in for a little spin. That was a lot of fun, though. Like when you were a 13-year-old, getting a car was a rush. out like your dad or anything. It was such a rush, dude.

We were going crazy. Like, Grant the thought it was probably out of the time. We're like, let's keep fucking criminals. But whatever, go on. Yeah. I mean, my general rule is just mind your own business. Mind your own business. I get that they're taking cards.

I get that you are now like an honorary. An honorary marshal security guard of pioneers because he's been there for six months. But just mind your own business. It's like the Blasio in New York City. He put out that thing like last week where they opened up a snitch line. It was like, if you see people who aren't. social distancing, call them up and you'll get some sort of reward. Fuck those people, too.

Like, just mind your own business. Like, everybody- That's how anarchy in the streets happen. 100%. You get people- Like, you're out here taking a- You're out here taking a picture of me. So what are you doing? If you get people who start snitching at each other, that's when everything collapses.

When people start eating each other, that's when it collapses. I know it's a little different global pandemic. People plan on pinerce when they're not supposed to. Just mind your own business. Well, but my only rebuttal and, you know, defending rigs in this situation, situation is totally with you and just mind your own business and do what you please only if it's an expense of somebody else so if they're driving on fairways or close to greens like the only person you're hurting are the maintenance people that now have to fix that because you're an

asshole and drove all right that is bad they're like they were driving on the car doctor i wouldn't have said a word if they're just driving normal and doing and playing golf then yeah rigs wouldn't have called or whatever and then like perfect the fact that they're disrupting somebody else or pissing somebody else off in to do they're just you're for themselves, kind of like Frankie did at the golf course, right? He's not paying and he's getting selfish game but hurting the probability of the golf. The golf course is close. It's the same shit that Riggs is doing.

Like, no one was, like, it was a 630. I was on the fourth hole. No one's behind us. No one. The golf course is close. Now they don't have enough money to buy extra rakes for the bunkers because you didn't pay your phone. Oh, my God.

Same thing as living on a golf course. If you lived on the fourth hole, you hop out there, and I hit a bunch of balls, then you leave. I played three holes. I do. Okay, that might as, yeah. I will say it. Is there any difference to that?

If I lived on the fourth hole of a... Because you don't live on the fourth hole. I technically do. I'm 100 feet away. I'm not too upset with what you did. And I don't think Riggs isn't along either. The guys are being assholes driving around. Well, I think there's a part of like Riggs being on that hole

and like guys rushing him and him being like, well, now what the fuck? This golf course is closed. Who the fuck are these guys? And I think that's what started your anger. No. I don't think it was like, can I talk, please, for one second? Here's what I'm going to say.

He's not rattled at all. He's upset. He's mad. is, well, Frankie just goes on and on and on and on saying the same thing all the time. It's like, we got your point, the first sentence that you're definitely not mad right now at all. All right. So my point is that you were an asshole to those. No, here's what I'm going to say is that there was a guy that came through five minutes before who was a member who drove his cart right down the cart path, walked out, me and Brendan,

let him play through, no problem. He was doing the exact same thing. He came up behind us. We just paused our operation and said, yeah, like, go ahead, please play right through. Then he went through. And then 10 minutes later so we had people, come fucking flying down the fairways and right up by the greens. And I very clearly just took a pitch. For all I know, like they could have been, I didn't know if they're like employees who were just buzzing around and they're allowed to do that. So I legit just took a pick, sent it to my buddy and said, hey, like, do you know who

these guys are? And then he was like, no, thank you for sending that. And those guys got booted. Whatever. Whatever. Pineers, for sure. Yeah, no. You're Mr. Pinehurst.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, whatever. Exactly. right there. I don't know how Frankie can defend just stealing and, like, trespassing all the time. It's not, no, it's just like you're, I mean, you're, whatever. You're, you're playing there every single night for free. Like, I just don't know at what level, like, taking pictures of people, like,

hopping on the golf course at night. Like, it's like, you're like the moral compass of pioneers, but whatever, it's fine. I mean, it is what it is. Like, I'm not going to get more into it. I don't want to keep, like, repeating myself. Like, like, you were blatantly just on the golf course at 5.30. Like, the course closed at three. Like, you're doing that every single night.

You're not driving a court. like you're stealing millions of dollars from Piner's. If you want to get into like the dollars I'm out. Well, I've helped raise 300,000 dollars. I know. I'm just saying. How am I stealing anything? Well, I'm just like, you're, you're playing for free.

So it's like those guys hopped on for free. What's the difference? Like, at that point, you didn't know. The difference is I got it approved by Piner's before. But you didn't know until you took the picture and sent it. So like you, nor. Correct.

I didn't, I didn't say, hey, you should kick these guys off. I legit just said, hey, you know who these people are out here. And then he said, no. That move right there is insane. But whatever. That's an interesting justification. That's insane. Like, whatever.

I don't know how you don't see what we're saying. Like, you flew a drone into the air and took pictures of guys playing golf. And we're like, hey, are these guys supposed to be out here? Like, how is that? How is, like, step one to step three, like, being, like, missed here? I took a picture with my phone while I was, like, standing right next to the green. And I clearly got approval. And I was like, hey, is it cool if we go play tonight at Pioneers?

And they said, no problem. These other people didn't. How do you not get the difference? Because you didn't know that when you took the picture, is my point. Like you're like whatever like you didn't know. So I asked. I just said like, hey, do you know. But that act of taking the photo is what we find to be like, like just like a weird move.

It's to be like snapping pictures of guys playing and like I don't know. But because their cart was in like a bad location. Correct. There was another person who played who was not doing any of that who I did not say anything about. Well, we didn't know that for the first 20 minutes of having this discussion. So you just said that part. No, I didn't. I told that story what three or four minutes ago of how.

someone else played through. Did I not just tell that story? Well, you know, I'm saying, like, prior to you saying that, all our knowledge was that it was just you and Brendan out there. You guys were on a green. You started the story by saying, like, you were getting rushed. You had the drone flying. You're trying to film yourself. Like, at that point, I'm like, all right, like, Rick's is getting frustrated that guys are behind them trying to hit onto the green. You probably, like, got frustrated that, like, these guys came out of nowhere. They're not supposed to be on the golf course. And then you said, you snap the picture of them on the next hole, sent it to your guy. He kicked them off. So, like, at that point, we didn't know a guy came.

in before that and you were just pickpoint who you wanted to do narc on. Like we just like, I mean, to me, knowing the story, just sitting in my room listening to it, it sounded like you just got frustrated that guys were playing at the same time that you were. And then whatever, the carts thing is another thing. But like, I think if those guys hadn't come at that moment and you saw them three holes away, you wouldn't have said anything. But I think because they came through you, it got you a little angry.

If I would have seen them driving on fairways and by greens, I would have definitely said something. All right. That's just like you just, I don't know. can't you just can't do that at partners like i think those guys are definitely wrong for driving uh green carts by the greens like they're for sure wrong that's definitely a wrong thing i just like whatever frankie if you're alluding to the point that there might be a gap in the story of yeah so supposedly this member came through i don't know how riggs knew that that guy was a member maybe just because he acted within the rules and then that these guys seemingly sounded like they

are driving in a go-cuff the way that they drove up erratically maybe pissed riggs off to the point where he's like, you know what, fuck these guys. I wonder if these guys actually should be here. Now I'm going to take a picture because they pissed me off. There might be something there. I don't know if there is there. Riggs is saying no. Thank you for having a smarter mind to be able to put things into it.

Well, no, I'm just listening. I'm just listening. I defend Riggs in the fact that blindly out of a box, if I just saw it and they didn't have, you know, like sometimes the blue flag that denotes that you can't walk any longer, so you get to drive wherever you like on the golf cars, barring that they don't have that and then being, you know, a foot 10 feet, 20 feet away from the green, you know, where you're not supposed to be.

And the course being closed and he took a picture. Like, I don't really have a problem with that because, like, you're just potentially, like, just a jackass ruining the golf course for everybody else. So it's- Taking a picture of some real narc shit. Taking a picture is reporting. Probably in myself, if I could say what I would have done, maybe I would have finished up and be like, like, hey, there was like some, I don't know, you might want to, like, police at the end of the night because there's some guys, like, driving on the green.

The photo is one step further, so that's where I'm wondering, is there maybe a ruffling of the feathers as they drove by? Now, we won't know. I don't think. I just think, like, the general average everyday golfer has done things, like, where they've gone another 18 or, like, they've played Twilight. And they, like, drive the carts up, like, by the fucking the green. And, like, they park on the hills and shit.

Like, I just think, like, everyone listening to this has done something where it's, like, oh, like, if someone fucking took a picture of me doing that, I would have obviously gotten in trouble. but like whatever, I don't know. Like, we're not members at country clubs. We got to do what we got to do to have fun. Like, I don't know. It's just seems like I would delete that photo off my phone.

It would make me feel dirty. As soon as I got them like in the frame, if I pulled my camera out, it'd be like, boy, this doesn't feel like the right thing to do. That feels worse than what they were doing. Look, I think people. How did you know like I was a member, the guy who drove through? Because he just was all in the rules for it?

Age, I would say it's, very obvious. Like, members have, like, I'm serious. Like, the members are all older, and these three guys in the carts were, like, in their, like, late 20s. There are no members at Pinehurst that are, like, in their late 20s. Is there no family membership at Pinehurst? You just don't see members that, like, you just don't see. I want to talk to. I'm around all the time. Ask Brendan. I want to ask Brendan, if you, like, missed a putt when these guys were on the fairway or something. And, like, they came out of nowhere and you're like, who the fuck are these guys? Ask Brendan, what happened. Right here.

I don't know if he'll tell the truth right now. No, he has a gun to his head. No, I'm literally in the same room as Riggs-o. That's what we mean. About 20 feet apart. No, I mean, this story's spot on. To be honest, there's just two ways you can look at it. You know, the way that Riggs and Lurchs do, I do think after being here for what, four days now, that there is, and there's probably a slight humming in my audio, there is a, there's a standard at Piner's. And like, these kids should not have been doing what they were doing. And they were like literally in their early 20s and you could tell the guy was old and he was like polite about saying like hey I'm going to play it through no problem but these kids were like we're not supposed to be here all right blink

twice uh brendan if you're maybe they didn't act as if then like because i think that's an important one i think frankie probably acts as if as he walks on the golf course like he's supposed to be there maybe these kids just didn't even look at the part which is a big step one if you're going to do anything he's i tell you what these darn kids these kiddos i'll tell you darn kids running her muckler on our golf course. What are they doing? Build a wall. No, no, no, no.

Okay. Yeah, we don't have to say that. Whoa. It's a good debate. It literally is a good debate, as we can see. And I did say to Brendan right after I was like, boy, do I feel like a fucking loser right now? Like, as they were getting booted, we had that conversation.

So it's not like I don't understand. And I began the story by being like, I gnarked on people because it was obviously a weird, whatever feeling, but I do think people understand. Like, I like hang out with the guys that run fucking Pioneer. No, we know. No, we got it. No, we got it.

No, we got that. I know your role. Yeah. They have a very limited staff. They talk all the time about how it's a fucking war zone around here. And so I was like, hey, is this supposed to be going on? And it ended up with me looking like a big heart. Yeah, if there's one place, it's like a war zone.

It's definitely a pinerst. Yeah. I see a little sarcasm there, true. Well, it is true. Like, we put things in perspective, those guys driving on the car. is not the worst thing that's going on. But I mean, you know, nobody said that it is, right?

Well, no, but. I feel like at some point, it's like, Frankie, kind of justifying them doing their action, but Frankie, would you do what they did here? Oh,

I said what they did was wrong. If they're, I mean, we're also, I don't have video of it, but we're acting like they drove the golf carts, like, onto the green.

Like, we're acting like to drive. Like, I'm sure that it was like, like, jarring to see someone doing something even slightly against the rules, like driving across a fairway

or into the rough or whatever. but like if they were driving on the greens and doing fucking donuts, like they have to be arrested at that point. Like they're just vandalizing the golf course. But like, I don't know. To me, it's just like, however they got out here, I don't know, it's not my place. I'm not out here to fucking get any guys kicked off a golf course.

Regardless, if they got on, it's fucking, like, I don't know. It's like, like, it might be their only opportunity ever play. Like, Lurch was saying, like, that's like, they need to figure out how to not have that happen. I don't like, that's, I'm not. I mean, yeah, one side could say rig, They figured it out. And a jerk and ruining these guys' knights, whatever.

The positive swing would be Riggs is very thankful for what Pinehurst is given over the last couple months and he saw something wrong. And he just wanted to share that with the understaff group at Pinehurst. Would be the positive swing on it. And he was just doing his part in the big cog. So however you want to look at it is quite different. I do think the only gap in the story is exactly is the interaction is where there could be some interesting talking points that may have happened on the T-box when these guys showed up.

And then the photo is the other key piece of evidence that everybody needs to see. I don't want that on my phone. Frankie reference like being angry. And I will say, I was like, what the fuck are these people doing out here? Like, this shit is closed. Like, we should have all day to film this video. And now you're just rushing us because they're hitting up on us and shit. And it was like very annoying.

So I was frustrated. Brendan, like at that point, like, that's what I mean is like, you guys didn't know for sure what their story was. And like you guys were out there after it was close to. So at any moment, like, did you guys think like maybe, I don't know, maybe they're out here for a reason?

Yeah, I think that's why he did it. I didn't say them off the course. I said, hey, do you know these guys? That was it. I think that was what,

exactly. Like, hey, what it was for. Yeah. Okay, my final point is that like, even doing that is crazy,

but that's fine. But you just said that. Like, to find out if like they're the ones in the wrong spot, like, for you to do that, I think is like a crazy. The other side would be like if they see them,

if the Marshall does his patrol and sees them two holes later, and everyone's like, oh, Riggs, did you see these guys driving all over the fairways and stuff? And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's just totally cool. They'd be like,

you know that can't happen. Like what? And then they're like, we're doing all this nice stuff. You can't like at least help us out a little bit with people fucking driving their carts all over by the greens and stuff. It's like, so I just said,

hey, these guys are out of it. All right. Yeah, I mean, I think it's, it's done. We would all have acted differently under the circumstances. he acted this way.

I would have done the lurch thing. I would have said, like, hey, man. Like, these guys are out there. I don't know what's going on, but I saw some guys driving a golf cart. Yeah, if you want me to, like, tell you next time, I will. But I would have done it that way. But hey, Riggs and Riggs just jumped right to the front of it, took a photo. And that does feel to transplant a little dirty, quite dirty.

It's a mean with that lady who, like, picks up the phone. She's, like, calling the police or whatever. Karen. It's like, is that what it is? Karen, they call him. Yeah, yeah. like that. Yeah, it's like the kids are partying and she's right there with the phone. Yeah. Go home, Karen. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And then we've also seen the 12 year olds

golf swing now. Yeah. It's a phenomenal golf swing. And I knew, I knew that he would be somewhat of an athlete. 12 years old, like you watch the fucking Little League World Series. These kids would strike you out every single time. They'll hit homers over your face. Like, some kids are six foot five at 12 years old. Have you ever watched the Little League World Series? Yeah. Yeah. Follonging. Three. Some of athletes. So like at any point when a kid says, come to my country club and I'm going to dust you in golf. Like he's probably one of those like well-developed 12-year-olds that are fucking already

strong and big tall. He looks, he looks mad. I mean, the kid's thick and he's hitting bombs and it's just like, there's no chance. He's not hit. That little hitch at the top of the swing where it just like sets, you know,

and it just looks good. The kid breaks 80 probably on average. Yeah. He got a ball 250 yards, no problem. I mean, he has a track man. Yeah, you got trackman costs $25,000. He has a trackman. So, yeah.

He's going to be dirty around the greens. He's going to hit the ball straight every single time. He's going to go for. The fact, Riggs is, I mean, what are you? You're probably plus a thousand in this match, it feels like after that one swing? I was going to say plus like three or four hundred maybe. Okay. All right.

I'm fine with that. After that. But also, I think, I mean, that was probably his best swing, right? Like he probably took a few takes and was like, okay, send him this one. Right. But either way, that swings in the back. Like, I don't have that swing. Yeah, that was a good swing for a fucking 12-year-old.

Like, I mean, he piped it. Like he just, like you said, he kind of got real vertical and dropped it in and just roasted it. So. Yeah. I mean, good luck. That's Friday. I think we're going to do it. I think we're going to do it Friday. Yeah.

Yeah, for the listeners, that'll be tomorrow. Myself against a 12-year-old who has a track man. which is four play crew oh and one versus sub teenagers yeah that's that's that's that's going to be tough what do you call that group infants yeah and then this eight year old the hawaiian kid's going to kill us Blake yeah what sucks is even if you win you're like supposed to be the 12 year old so but he challenged me I know but like if you win you can't like really dance on the kids these 12 years old it's actually a lose lose situation for you right if you win it's like oh you beat a 12 year old sick like you've

been to Pynos for two months. Like you're a golfer, you should fucking beat a 12 year old. But if you lose, it's like you lost to a 12 year old. Because everyone you talked to about that won't have seen the clip. They won't know about the track man. They'll just think of a 12 year old in their head. And they'll know that you like are accepting the challenge. Like you think, you know what I mean?

Like it's not like you're to say like you should be able to in their minds to general public you should be able to beat the 12 year old because you accepted the challenge. You went there. You played them. Correct. I agree. And I think right there is the. inherent beauty of the content opportunity.

It's like a 12, like beating. I think that's what it is, which is great. I'm rooting for you. Definitely. Done. Really want you to win. I don't think you do. I think that's a lot.

I swear, this one I want you to win. This one I'm big time on your side. Yeah, I got to figure out if he, if he saw those carts on the golf course, if he would have snitched, I got to figure out which side I'm on. If you could present him, if you could present him with that scenario, and then he gives an answer, then I'll know who I'm rooting for. Okay.

All right. He is 12 years old with a $25,000 detractment, so I think, I don't think he would have allowed anyone to even look at him on the golf course. True. That's true. I agree with that. Next door is the hub for everything happening in your neighborhood. Everyone is verified, so your conversation stay private between you and your neighbors.

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knew you had for free. Again, tell them we sent you by going to nextdoor.com slash four. Okay. I don't know if we talked about this yet, but Tiger says he'll play the U.S. Senior Open because he wants every single USGA trophy. I think Pat Perez told this story like last week that Tiger once told him that he's going to play the U.S. Senior Open so that he can have legitimately every single U.S. GA trophy. And somebody then we're talking about it, whatever, last week with a couple of people around here. Somebody brought up the hilarious setting of, like, Tiger coming out and his fucking

Sunday red against a bunch of, like, 60-year-olds trying to win a golf tournament and the U.S. senior open. And I just don't know if that'll ever possibly have. I think of Tigers at the level of playing at any level of beat people he's going to be with the PGA tour guys. Like, I don't think he's ever going to. I just don't think he's ever going to go to the minor leagues of golf in his mind and try and win that. There's no sense in it.

There's just no sense in like going and beating up on the other old guys when like he's going to be a machine. Like once he's done playing his PG tour guys, it's it. He's done. He's not going to senior open. But on the senior open, it's a little bit more relaxed. Like you don't certainly don't have to put. He doesn't need relax. Tiger Woods is not a relaxed guy.

Yeah, I know. Listen to what you just said and then say that was Tiger Woods. He's a winner. He's like, if I want to win, he wins. And like if he wants to go get this, if he gets it in his mind at all, he's just going to win one. Like the first or second year, like, he'll just win it and then he'll be done. Yeah, but Tiger could win against, like, anyone if you wanted to, but like he wants to win against the best. That's what, that's how he holds himself.

My audio go? Oh, there we go. So do you think he tried? Do you think he's, I saw your lips moving, Trump? Yeah, sorry. What I was going to say is I'm surprised he feels this way. Like, I figured what Frankie said, like, if he wants to beat people at the top level and he'll do that until he's, he's done, If he gets to a point where he's got to be like, oh, I got to go win the senior on the senior tour. I think he's just going to be like, I don't want to do that. I'm done.

But clearly, it sounds like he wants to. There's no age limits like when you can play in PGA tour events, right? No. You can play like the players like at 75. As long as you have status, which I think he has like lifetimes. I think if you win what 20-something times on tour,

you get lifetime status. So he's going to be playing in like, he's going to be playing like TPC Sawgrass until he's 80 at this point. Like there's no way he's not going to, and be joining those tournaments. You're going to tell me right now he's going to go to the secondary tour and go and beat up on those old guys. Are you kidding me?

Do you think, like, if Tiger Woods in two years won his 19th major, do you think he just hangs it up? Yes. No. Yes. I think he might.

Yes. I do. I think the kids? Yes. Just because of everything. I think, like, I don't know that he gets the,

the enjoyment out of, like, everything that goes into, competing now that outweighs, like I think the number one priority and reason he's doing it is to try to achieve becoming the undisputed greatest of all time. And I don't think now, like he has to get up five hours before his round to go through three hours of like getting his body ready and has to go through all the backs. And I say take a few months off sometimes to get his body back in shape and all this. I don't think that that is worth now his enjoyment of just

pure competition like it used to be. And I think he gets far more enjoyment out of like being around the kids, helping Charlie with his game and all that type of stuff. Yeah, I think at this point, he's probably told himself, I like to think that he did like, all right, Tiger, do this for five more years.

Like dedicate your life for five more years of fucking grinding and trying to win golf tournaments, waking up six hours before, getting all the backshieb like Rick just said, like that is what you're going to do. And it's probably a daunting feeling for him, knowing that every time he has to play golf at a competitive level, he has to do that stuff.

So he probably gave himself, like, a window where it's like, this is, you're only doing this until Charlie's, whatever, 15 years old. And then after that, you've done, regardless of what happened, you gave it your role. You showed your kids when they got to a level of remembering you and knowing, like, what you were able to do at a conscious level. He always talks about that. Like, now they're able to know what's going on. They know what that's the dad is a bad.

Not the YouTube golfer anymore. Not the YouTube golfer. Like, they got five years of that. They watched him play, the zozo, the masters, all this stuff. like now you're done after that. You can't, you can't, like, I just said like he'd play until he's 80, but like that's just not going to happen. He's just can't, he can't do it.

I would love for Tiger Woods, the mythical creature to be able to do that, but like he has to be able to stop at some point because his life is just, it's not like, he's not Justin Thomas. I can just go out there and swing a golf club anymore. He's not. And the only other motivating factor would be if he felt like there was somebody coming up behind him, which there's not. Like it's comfortable.

Right. It's complete. like nobody, Brooks isn't getting there, Roy, nobody that we know of right now is going to get there. So I think that would be the thing like if he gets to 19, he's like, let me get a couple more, at least try to get a couple more to put it completely out of reach. But there's nobody there. So he might just hit 19 and drop out. Yeah, I mean, he's 44 now.

I think he has made a few comments in the last year, year and a half about like the 10 year mark of like if I played 10 more, that's 40 more chances of majors. I think he's made something along those lines that have made people kind of put that number out there. but I do think in his head he's got like a cutoff kind of that he exactly what Frank is saying that he could go five, six years. And he's thinking, okay, I got to get a major a year. I think he thinks like if I get to 18, I'll be considered the greatest of all time because we'll be tied in majors, but I have every other record.

And I think that he thinks that there's a good chance, you know, he can get to 19. But I think that that's the reason that he's doing it. I think he knows too at that time, like he's going to be significantly more exhausted than he even is now, and he's crazy exhausted and sick of it now. Not sick of it, but like, you can tell it. Where's on him? He looks like he's fucking, like, there's times he shows up tournaments, and it's like, this guy is just, like, pretty checked out.

He looks exhausted. He just looks like he's beat up, even though he hadn't played in three weeks sometimes. You're like, what the hell? And he says, like, I need rest, and you're like, well, you haven't played in a month. So what the hell are you talking about? He's just fucking old. He's 44, has been through the four or five back surgery. So I do wonder, like, if he got to 19, like, if he went on a tear, got to

and 2023 does like the next week is he like oh yeah I retire that'd be incredible I can almost like picture him sitting at the dinner table being like all right like guys like they're like the kids are complaining like why are you doing all this like like maybe he's like basically barely getting to the dinner table's back hurts and he's like told them like five years five years that's it five more years guys like that we're gonna we're all in this like let's all just concentrate on this and then that's it I'm home like I I can just like picture him saying it. Yeah.

And I do think too, like that he makes a very big deal every year about how all he's trying to do is peak for like the Masters. He says that all the time. And I think, and we've talked about this before, but I think he genuinely believes that he could, he could only win the Masters like once every two or three years for the next 10 years and then get to 18 and 19 and be like, that's it. Because he knows like he can win that even when he came back in 2010 from the scandal. And he had to play golf in fucking eight months.

and his life was slipped upside. I finished like fourth. It's like he can win the Masters any year. So I think he thinks it's like, no, I have this cool, magical shot every year where I forget to play this course

that I could just win at. And if I just win that three or four more times, I'm the greatest player of all times. He also won the 2019 Masters with what you guys talking about, how he has to get up like 12 hours early, and they moved the T times earlier. So he got up at like 9 p.m. that night

and was like, all right, now I got to win the Masters Sunday morning. So like, you're right. Is there something magical about that place where no matter the circumstances he can always put together some sort of round where it's like I could win this thing. Yeah, it'll be, I don't know, it'll be, it'll be very interesting to see if he ever plays any senior. I could see him wanting to win the senior U.S. Open, but I don't see him playing anything else. Like, well, you know, it's not going to mean

anything to him. But having it, he does talk about how he won all those U.S. like junior, USGA junior amateur or the Amateur. He won them a U.S. Open a bunch. So he does care about all those USGA trophy. So I'm sure that there's something to that. I doubt Pat Perez just made that up. And then we had somebody who submitted a DM about Tigers. We were talking about the golf balls, the Nike stuff and how there's no fucking way that he was using it. And this guy, he's like, I just had to mention that you guys literally had the Bridgestone guys on the pot a couple months ago and they legit said that for years Tiger was playing a Bridgestone ball with a Nike logo on it. He says they kept saying, air quotes, another company. But he's like, we all know that it was

a bridgestone ball with a with a Nike logo on it. You know, and it said he's the, so, you know, I, I'm sure that that's true to some degree. I don't know that he, like, never used the Nike ball because I think that he did get to a point at some, some time, some point where he was, like, legitimately using the Nike ball. But there was obviously some shenanigans going on where they would just stamp a logo on different stuff. I think that's confirmed. Yeah, I was getting messages like left and right that next day, like all different

irons and drivers he was using like this one guy was like breaking down if you look at like the cavity back at the irons at the time he was using in like 2005 it wasn't those eyes not so I mean whatever I'm sure that there's there's a mill I'm sure people have died in the process of making tiger woods's clubs like we're never going to get the full answers I mean he's tiger woods like you're not going to get that's that's the recipe to the success like the Scotty Cameron may have like a fucking I don't know like elves living inside the like the head or something who knows we'll never get the true answer. People who have the answers will die with them. Yeah, there'll be a witness protection program to try to actually get the real story. No, Robbie Mac's taking all that to is great. Right. That has to go through Robbie Mac and it just goes inside him. He's done.

He's a bank vault. So I'm on the Deathly Hollows, by the way, Frankie, and Harry Potter now. And it's like I'm starting to remember how really like dark all the horkruck stuff is and the thought of Tiger, like, splitting his soul into the Scotty camera and everything is, uh, it's kind of darker than I thought it was. It is dark, but it's like so true. Like if you took the Scotty camera and snapped in half, Tiger would like be sitting at dinner and he would like, boom.

Like, he would like fall and like start like withering away and everyone would be like, papa and he'd be like, uh. Yeah. And if you did, you tried to like stab it with a sword and break it in half like that real life tiger, magical tiger would come out and try to eat you. You'd have to kill the tiger. It would be a whole fucking production. Well, and, and, and,

Harry Potter, when, like, Ron tries to kill one of them, like, his biggest fears or, like, lies come out, right? Like, like, we're coming at him. And then also, like, he saw Harry and Hermione, like, they're, like, banging. Yeah. And, like, like, what would, like, if you went to go kill, like, Tiger's Scotty, like, what, like, would Trent just see, like, a bunch of snakes or, like, like, like, what lies would you see? Like, like, what would your horrocks horror story be? Well, you want me to give my deepest part of the eye right now? what does that mean? Like, what are you? You're like, Trent, tell us if this imaginary fictional world actually came to life and this situation was laid out in front of you,

what horrible thing that you think in your mind but won't tell anybody else would come out? I pass. I pass. When I was halfway through that, I was kind of mixing up what I wanted to say. Like, I was more thinking that Tiger would see his worst moment. Right. But like, so like in the movie, Ron sees something that he doesn't want to see. he sees Harry and Hermione.

So like in that situation when I was trying to say, which it wouldn't work because it's because we're trying to stop the horro corpses of Tiger. But like if Tiger was trying to kill something, he would see like Jack holding up another man like another green jacket. Or like he would see, you know what I mean? Like he'd see like all these things.

Like he'd see himself like on the ground like holding his back or something like that. Like it wouldn't be us. But then that wouldn't make sense because we're trying to. I see. Yeah. Yeah, he would. He would see like Elyn hitting him in the face with a,

the with a call or something. Which we don't, we don't talk about that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where I came up with that. I was going to say Eelan with her like new billionaire boyfriend husband, but then we,

that's safer. That's safer. Yeah, in the house. I was not taking care of the boss. Can't their house get like a bunch of termites and shit? I hope so. Oh, I think she tore it down.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. She said it had like termites or whatever. And she ripped the whole thing down. I think the whole thing came down. I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

That could be true. I don't know. We haven't gotten a Frankie fact in a long time. Oh, yeah. Well, actually, well, no, I had one that was in the pipeline. It's actually a pretty interesting fact, to be honest. It was, well, now you put me on the spot. Now I got to.

I know. Usually you just had been a while. I wasn't sure if I should mention it. Well, I mean, I know that you should mention it, but it's just that, you know, I'm trying to find... Oh, we had a bit. Hang on. Is this part of the fact?

Frankie, while you try to find that, I got this Elylin story, it wasn't what we thought it was. She said, this was January 5th, 2012. After her $100 million Devois settlement, divorce settlement last year. Devoice. Devoice bought, she bought a beautiful $12 million home in Florida. That was bigger and nicer than Tigers.

But apparently the house wasn't good enough for Eelon. The golfer's ex-wife tore the whole place down so she could build a brand new. estate on the same property. So it wasn't their house. There's a house she bought after the divorce. Gotcha. It kind of changes it. I tried to buy you some time, Frankie. What the fuck, man? Like, how do I not have this fact, you know? Like, whatever. I'm going to have to try and go off the dome. Uh-oh. This could be.

Well, it's not that like long of a story. It's just back in the 1800s, houses and roofs were made very flimsy. And during, like, big rainfalls, um, dogs and cats would all often be on the roofs of these lower tiered houses in the late 1800s and they would actually fall through the roofs of these houses and it would be raining cats and dogs. Okay. I like it. I like it. Because like that's such an obscure, weird saying that we all say.

That's the thing I love about these Frankie Facts and not to pump my own tires, but like we say that the most ridiculous sayings of all time and act like they're just like normal English, right? Like rule of thumb? Like rule of thumb or like just like the worst. wording, all right? Like, it's raining cats and dogs out there, and you don't even think about what that means. Like, what are you talking about? People know, no, it's so ingrained that people know what you mean, even though it shouldn't make any sense whatsoever. I've just always thought, like, boy, would a raindrop the size of a cat or a dog be a serious rain? Boy, would that do serious.

I've never thought really anything about it. Yeah, I've thought, fuck, that would be a problem if it was raining, a cat and a dog. Man, if a cat and dog fell on you from 30,000 feet, it would be loud, it'd be a problem out, you know, it'd be either be, drainage issues, it would be serious problem. That one is so common that I've never even thought about it being... Think about how much blood there would be in the streets. The sewers would be full of blood if they were just dogs and cats

come plummeting down on the roads and stuff. Isn't that insane? Raining cats and dogs. I just picture it raining like a motherfucker. What does that mean? Right? Where does that come from? You know Shakespeare made up a bunch of just like words and phrases back then that everyone just hundreds of myths, not thousands of them? He just invented

words. And like words that we use every day? Yeah, I want to say like tremendous or something. It's just a Shakespeare just like made Oh, I've actually looked it up. It's crazy. It's words that like we need. Really? I didn't know who's that many. Oh my God. Here I got 15 words invented by Shakespeare. Bandit. Bandit, critic. Hit me. Dauntless, dwindle, elbow, green eyed, lackluster, lonely. Those are all Shakespeare words. Lonely. Like he

said like, oh, she was very lonely. And everyone's like, what does that mean? Like the way he described it was, well, no, he said elbow as a verb, right? I've read that one before. But like the elbow of a table or something. Right. But where did he, is it because it's an L shape? Oh yeah, I don't know.

Elbow and like a bow. How about this one? Swagger. That's a Shakespeare word. What? Wow. I thought like a rapper made that up. The swagger.

Like you could just tell like he was probably like, how does he come up with that word? and that we all like just agree with that like oh yeah that's it well i guess he like describes it in a way that the person had swagger and we're like oh that's what that's what's what's like lonely lonely is so perfect for the word like when you say lonely like gives you the definition you know it's like the perfect word so was alone a word before that and he turned it into lonely where do words come from we just oh boy boy it's lonely lonely is a lonely word it makes it feel lonely really alone Yeah, everybody's now just in their Zoom thing, looking at each other. I'm looking at Shakespeare words, yeah.

He also did like prefixed un, so he did unaware, uncomfortable, undressed, unearthly, and unreal. Huh. Shakespeare. Unearthly, huh? What about unbelievable? You know what I'm saying? Did you do that one? Damn.

That would have been great if that had been on there. Yeah. I don't care about that anymore. What am I at? Like 50 bucks? We're never going to go to a restaurant or dinner or drinks any. Anyway, so it doesn't matter. I went to, so I finally went to the grocery store yesterday.

I got one of these, Welker sent me one of these buffs. Is that we're calling them? Yeah, buffs. Offs. Or next one. Send me a Barcel outdoors one. I would have loved the Barstle golf one, but, you know, whatever. It works.

But it's strange going out there, man. Grocery stores, there, people aren't as cognizant of staying socially distance out of grocery stores I would like. That's my opinion of going to a grocery store. Dude, I, my girlfriend just sent me a Snapchat. she had to go to an ATM and get money and it was buy a Trader Joe's on Long Island. And when the Snapchat shows

it's from a major road, like almost a highway of people standing from the highway down on a side road all the way around into a massive like mall type parking lot. When I tell you like over a thousand people on this line, like waiting to get into a Trader Joe's like I've never seen like it my entire life.

I'm never going back to you. Everyone's waiting there to just like, you're standing there like robots. Like, you're going to be there for hours. That was the other thing. I baked in like an extra hour just to stand outside the grocery store. I mean,

there was no line at this Manhattan grocery store that I went to. It was just, you'd walk right in. Really? I was stunned. Yeah, I was like, I was like,

all right, this is going to take an hour longer than I think because I'm going to have to wait outside and I just, I just wandered into the grocery store. It's also like the, um, you know, we're all trying all time to like make it feel as normal as you can.

And like, whether it's watching something or whatever. and the grocery store is like you can't avoid it. It feels like ground zero of the coronavirus. Well, you deal with in Manhattan, there's very, the aisles are very skinny. So there's not a ton of room. So when you're coming head on to somebody else, it's like, all right, well, I guess we're just going to pass each other now because.

Oh, you don't have arrows? Do you not have directional arrows? Oh, we do directional arrows down here. So as soon as you enter, you're like, you stay in the line until you leave. So you literally go like through produce, then you go through bread or whatever. and then like, but you have, you stay in that directional. So what? There's always people who don't know that the directional is going on and they are a menace to society.

Yeah, they're scary. I feel like now when people, that might have been me. When you see people now and people give you like the wave, it's not so much saying hi, it's like I see you, but you stay in your path and you don't even think about it. It's like an air traffic controller just being like, no, I see your plane is there. But like you just stay in that exact lane and you don't. don't even come my way. Do you guys think it's ever going to get back to, like, a normal,

like, you think people are going to go to restaurants and, like, because, like, dude, it's crazy. Like, there's real world problems going on now. For sure. Now, like, for future shit. Like, like, I'm just, like, even me and my dad were talking about, like, the future of Borrellys. Like, we're doing, we're doing all these deliveries and all these fucking, um,

uh, donations, all this stuff. But, like, at some point, we need people to come back into the restaurant and, like, eat food and, and have parties. Like, is that ever going to, to happen again? I think it will. I think it will. We'll get a vaccine.

Vaccine will be huge. It just might take a year or two years. That's like, but nobody's going to survive that. Like, the world's going to collapse at that point. You can't, dude, everyone I talk to who has a mom and pop

like business or like even my, any of my friends that, their dads or moms, they work at these, like, they can't survive another even month or two with that. They can't pay their bills.

Definitely. Like, there's very unfortunately. Like, I think a lot of those are going to collapse and go out of business. or but I think within, I don't know, a few months or so, like the whole point of flattening the curve is that our system can then catch up and we can deal with being able to help

the sick. It's not going to kill the virus, but like we'll be able to handle it better and then eventually will get a vaccine and then I think people will start to go back to normal. Like when bars, I'm not a doctor. Yeah, same. But when bars are allowed to reopen in New York City, there might not be bars to open. That's what I mean. And then like what happens to the economy?

Like it just collapses. No one doesn't have jobs. And it's just going to be. it's going to be like the end of the world. We don't even have like a ballpark date on when we're going to be back in an office doing any normal thing. We don't have a ballpark date and when we can leave the house and like return to our jobs like what you're saying,

like not even do recreational stuff, which is a major part of life, like going and going to games and going to restaurants and going to bars. That's how the country moves. It's not like the PGA tour putting up. an event it's everything else yeah i mean i i think like rigs in my apartment is just like city mayor like when something's not lived in like you know dust settles and then like a little spider web

happen oh just like i'm gonna go back in there our apartment is going to be filled with mice and rats disgusting disgusting dude think about how much mail and packages we're going to have oh my god i got a call a couple days ago and it said maybe like the guy that booked our apartment you know how number than maybe. So it had to be him. And I was like, you know what it is? I bet we look like in the movie the Santa Claus when he gets all the packets, he gets all the packages set.

His whole apartment's like overflowing with all the lists. I bet our fucking apartment looks like that. Probably it was calling to see if he could drop it in your apartment. Or like do you guys have like a downstairs thing where it collects all the packages or no? Yeah. But it's like on the, it's on the ground floor and it's like a small little nook where it could maybe fit like 20 packets. packages that are that are average size and we probably have twice that ourselves.

I'm very, my guy called me and was like, can I go put this stuff in your room? Hopefully that's our guy, Mark, he's just like, I need, I got to get it out of this room.

He's like, this is insane. I'd like, Death Wish coffee was the biggest box I've ever seen in my entire life. Really good stuff. So like, I needed to get that out of there, he said,

because I got to get this out of here, man. He's like, dude, I'm very conscious of just like every couple, like every, I try to for like 20 minutes a day just open my window. Because otherwise, it's going to be like your guys's apartment, but with me living inside of it where there's no new fresh air coming into this place. I think I'm driving back up to New Jersey tomorrow, which is nuts. But I've been down here for, you know, six, seven weeks, something like that. And I thought about doing a day trip into New York to check on our apartment and just like go in there. do a U-turn and come right back out maybe this weekend or something like that, just to see that, I don't know, just to do exactly what we just talked about.

Who know? Yeah, I'll face time. You got to take a little tour. Yeah, that'd be great. Show you the new apartment covered in Spider-Wil. Maybe do a little load of laundry by you there. Yeah, I'll be there for a week then. That sounds like a great idea.

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but I thought I'd bring it here because we were doing a save it for the show thing. But it was a picture. It was is an ace and one of them raised cups. Somebody on a part three hit it clearly bounced right before the whole landed in a raised cup, which is significantly small. It's like only fit a golf ball and it fit inside the raised cup. That's where the ball was.

Is that better, more impressive than a normal ace? Yeah, so at first it's like, yes, that's incredibly impressive. More impressive because it's more difficult to get that ball into that part of the hole because it's raised and it's smaller. It's quite literally a fact that that is harder to do. But the other side of this is that there's two sides. One is like that is what the hole looks like and that's what your goal is to get that ball in that hole, not the regular hole, that hole, right?

The second part is that had that not been there and that it was a regular hole, which you can't really argue because it wasn't. But in an alternate reality, if he's playing a regular hole where it just goes into the ground, that ball doesn't even come close to going in that hole. It goes off the pin. It maybe misses right, left. It goes three or four feet past. And he just makes like a maybe birdie and a par. So it's hard to like say like it's an amazing hole in one shot when technically on a regular golf course that's not going in the hole. It definitely bounces over.

It has to. But that's the hole he played and he got it in. So I don't know. I don't know. It's described all of our like. Yeah. That was really good. That was really good.

That was the most articulate you've ever been. That was incredible. I don't know what to pick. I don't know. You were succinct. You laid it all out there and then like we don't even. Yeah, now there's no rebuttal. I've been thinking about it a lot.

You M&M does. You eight miles us. I've had a ton of debates about it. something you don't know about me. Doesn't part of it have to be that he knew the hole looks like that, right? Like if he didn't know what he's been playing golf, so he's been playing the holes, he knows that's what they look like.

That is a point in his favor, that he hypothetically in his mind, his intention was like, I know what that hole looks like. Am I going to try to jump it into that raised cup? I agree. I've been having this debate about all these, the pool noodles and all this shit.

Like, you know, I played with someone, a couple weeks ago that we, he hit this shot and the ball rolled right up to the hole. And like, it was a 235 yard par three. So it was far away. And to the point when we walked up to this hole, the ball was two inches away from this pool noodle. And like, did it hit it? Right.

At some point, like, you saw it kind of go to the right, like at the end. And like, did it just skim it? Like, is that a hole in one? And if you walk up there and the ball's, you. on the edge, do you count that as a whole one? Like, that was leaning against it? Or even just like on, like, you could tell that it bounced and came back.

Like, you can just tell, like, do you count that as a whole and one? Like, oh. No. It doesn't allow it to go in the hole, though, is the point. I know. It's a dream rock, you know, potentially. Or, like, you know, who knows? It's, what if it's sitting up against

it, but it's not in the hole? What do you mean sitting up against? Like, what if it's leaning? It's leaning against leaning. Oh, my God. That counts. But it never actually falls in. It can't. Right.

That's the same thing. I give that a hole in one. If it's like in between the pool and the line. If you literally move, if you pull the cylinder out and the ball falls in, then I would say that counts. That's the court hole. The court hall.

Exactly. That is. So you're telling me that guy has more of a validity to say yes. 100% than I do. If the ball is actually leaning in on it. Of course. What do you mean? What do you mean?

That's the cornhole. You guys are assholes. Because like if you... Cornhole, if you got one leaning on the side, you've lift up the board, and if it falls off, it doesn't count if it stays on a... For a second, I thought you guys were... Because I'm a... I love playing cornhole. I thought you guys thought that the rule was that if it's leaning on the edge of the hole and you go and take the bags out of the middle and it hits that bag,

and that somehow is like counting on it. Frankie... Frankie saw red for 35 seconds. He didn't hear anything we were talking about. What the hell's going on? I played that game before. I have a different set of rules. If you play by a different set of rules,

I'm going to kill you. No, no, I thought you guys meant like, because we're talking about the hole, I thought you meant on the edge of the hole and you reach in and it hits that one on the edge that somehow counts. Like, no, no, no. All cornhole is is about getting it fully in the hole.

We got it. We got it, Frank. Bro, I can't wait to play bags again. Bags are you playing quarantine because you touch your own bags. You got to make sure the other person. You have to all come with your own set. Or just all wear gloves.

Yeah. Do gloves do the trick? Is that right? Well, as long as like you then basically, you know, you throw away the gloves and you don't touch anything else. You know, it's not like the dog gloves are disaffecting, but Corona just stays on the glove. Yeah, exactly. Just on the glove. I've been washing my hands so much.

The backs of my hands are so dry. It's a problem. Yeah. You're not, but you're not leaving the, so like you're washing your hand, like you, let's say you don't leave your apartment all day. No. How many times do you wash your hands? well so it doesn't make any sense no no no because i still get takeout so like okay good good good good down in the lobby and i come back up and i wash my hands makes sense i thought like if i didn't

leave my room for 24 hours yeah imagine like washing your hands three times like what's no no no no yeah if i did corona came in the window or something right i said that on this podcast if it's starting to seep through the walls and at that point who gives a fuck is what are we doing here let's just go get it i mean if that's the case i'm going to the top floor but like um no if I leave my if I leave my apartment I go grab something from the lobby I wash my hands that's what it is and I just I you know I get take out pretty often that's you know that's just got to eat three meals a day I can't cook so I wash my hands on oh now the pizza review sent to me it's man it's just every day man it's crazy yeah he reviews pizza every day Friday Saturday Sunday what times that could be up uh 6 o'clock not so bad oh you got some time, Frankie. He had some time. So Jack asked

rank 1 to 4, smartest to dumbest of the 4 playboys. Damn. That's a divisive question. The only reason I put this in here was because I was going to say, I think it's actually very, very similar. But all in different ways. I think I'm probably the dumbest when it comes to like actual knowledge of things.

I don't retain information as well. Right. You for sure retain more information than me by a long shot. Like you remember everything. Right. But I think you're like significantly wittier in a lot of like cultural references and whatnot than I am. That's not being like. I think you'd have to define intelligence and like what they're going for.

Is it like problem solving? Is it like retaining information? Is it, you know, emotional intelligence, whatever? Because I think it would it would be a flip flop for pretty much every. To me being like a more intelligent person, it's like, oh, yeah, like this, like, if you ask someone something about it, they can describe, they can describe what you're asking, like, in full detail. And I often can't remember, like, details about it. I don't know. I just like, I feel like if you ask Riggs about Tobacco Road right now, he'll tell you everything about it.

Totally. Like, who, everything about my strands and all this shit. Like, I just don't, I can't remember that. So it comes up like, I'm dumber. That's why I said in the Tobacco Road video, felt like a Jason. born movie where they ask you about something and they ask me and I legitimately have no idea. Like I don't remember what happened. I remember sort of being there, but I don't totally know.

In terms of if that's how we're ranking intelligence, I'm definitely near the bottom. I don't think that's how you rank it though. I think that's like, I don't know, I think that's too basic of a definition. I think it's, I think like. You also can just tell though, like I have a buddy, this kid Jesse, shout out Jesse. This kid, Jesse, we grew up with this kid. He's just smarter than everyone else. He's more intelligent.

Now he's a lawyer. Like everything about his intelligence just, it beams off. You want to ask him questions. Like, Jesse, what do you think? What do you think about this? You know, and he tells you his, like, his thought on it. No one's asking me my thoughts on fucking world problems and shit, unless we're on here and we're like just slapping our dicks around.

Right. I do think, like, if you look at me in my friend group that I grew up with, all those guys, I think I'm the one they look at as an idiot. Like I have a cool job now, but I think like 10 years ago, I was the idiot of my friend group for sure. My friends have group chats about like investments in stocks. Like I'm not invited to those group chats.

Like I don't know anything about really anything like at all. How, I mean, maybe not a rank. How would you, how would each person define intelligence in this room? I would say that intelligence, man,

that's hard. I think it's problem solving. Problem solving is a big one. I think it's the ability to like comprehend situational stuff and get what you want like out of it. You know, like it's solving because life isn't just like fucking filling out an answer for memory on a piece of paper.

Like that's never, that's the least applicable thing in the world. That just doesn't happen. So it's like intelligence is being able to kind of organize everything that's going on in any situation and be able to like pick and use what you need from it to ultimately like achieve what you're trying to achieve. And that could be anything.

It would be like you're playing golf. Could be trying to edit a video. It could be trying to like interview somebody. It could be anything. So I think problem solving is way more an indicator of intelligence that being able to fucking like remember a whole what tobacco wrote or whatever. Strongly agree. Strongly agree.

So it's like. From the clouds. Yes. Yes. It's a situational thinking. Yeah. Right. Right.

like yeah I don't know I can't I couldn't if if I'm driving down a highway and a road trip and I fucking and I blow a tire and I have a flat tire I'm just fucked my road trip's over I can't I just don't know how to fix that so that doesn't that makes me incredibly dumb not that like I wouldn't even know how to use the fucking tools even like Google that I probably couldn't figure it out I'm not good at that shit I'm not crafty I'm not handy so there's a huge like miss in that but also I could sit down and like I could go through somebody's Wikipedia and then remember the dates from their tournaments and be able to drop that and ask them.

So there's like certain elements where you can pick and that helps and then the other one hurts. So I don't think that that's, I don't think one of those is an indicator on intelligence. No, I mean, I think everybody in this room can get things done. Just like Riggs, we might pop a tire. I might fix it myself. You might call AAA.

You know, like everybody in this room can find their way out of web paper bag. I think we go about it much differently. Because like you would just call AAA. get the tire fix and then on you go i would like you know whatever take it out lift up the car and then just switch tires and put on the spare you know like um it is i yeah i i think that's a good way to describe it i mean i do like frankie like the way he danced around like if you smart like my uncle is incredibly smart gifted and talking to him he can talk about anything yes and he

can talk about anything to anyone in the room whether it be the the chief executive officer of that or, you know, a person that barely knows what that company does, but give him, like, a beautiful kind of, like, description of it in the terms that makes sense to that individual. And I think that is a gift of intelligence. Man, the way we're describing intelligence, though, is just a bunch of fucking unintelligent idiots. That's too broad. It's, like, too broad of, like, what avenue of intelligence are you talking about? Yeah.

If you literally search, what is intelligence? it says it's a general cognitive problem solving skills. There you go. There you go. Riggs is smart. A mental ability involved in reasoning, perceiving relationships and analogies, calculating, learning quickly, etc. Right, because like, look at Dave, right?

I consider Dave one of the smartest people I've ever met, and he can't pronounce or spell or he can't even get somebody's Twitter handle right when he's trying to like have slam dunk him on a tweet. Like he's so dumb. Right. His world, he's very smart. In his world, he knows the ins and outs of it, like, what he needs to do. And he knows the problem solving and situations.

He knows what's the best situation on the fly, right off the dome. Like, you don't have to think. Like, to be able to run a business with 200 employees and get it from his fucking, his kitchen table to being worth $100 million. You have to be able to just make decisions. Like, yeah, this is what works. Right. He's got, yeah, he's got the best gut of all time. Yeah.

There's, it's really, it's, I know we show and Dave and all that, like, just as he's, his employees. I mean, I mean, just like as a general barstool principal, you're his right here. Never should undo. But like as a general barstool principle, you do kind of like,

you just rib him a little bit. But he, he is incredible. Right. And there's like, there's that clip I saw last week from when he was over in London at the horse race. And they're like,

oh, have you ever been to the UK before? And he's like, yeah, I was in Italy. And like, you'd think this guy's a fucking moron. He's like the smartest person I know.

So you know who also gives off an incredibly intelligent vibe with, what me and Lurcherner were saying where like you just can talk about anything is large. Large can talk about any situation and make you feel like like he's been there before even though he may not have been, right? Like I feel like large. Like tell me about like what happened like, how did we get here in like World War II? Like what happened there? I feel like he'd be able to explain it to me in a very like easy, like I can just easy listening way. Like I can just be like, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense. Or he can tell me a cocktail or he can explain to me the stock market. Like he just, his vibe comes up very intelligent, even though he's talking about.

But he would also tell you that World War II story, and he would drop a few names of like countries and figures in that that were like instrumental where you'd be like, oh, that gives this story a lot of credibility. This fucking guy knows what he's talking about. I do think he's way smarter than anyone on this show. Large is very intelligent. That's large is maybe one of the most intelligent people I've ever talked to. How would everybody rank their problem solving skills? One out of ten. What's a problem solving skill?

Seven. Is it the fucking, is it the tired? No, just kind of in general, like you have a problem. How do you identify the situation and how do you create a solution for yourself or the group? I think I'm like above, I think I'm around average or above average. I've been in a ton of, I mean, I've worked for Dave Portnoy for four years in situations where like my, my face got hot and my body got hot because I didn't, like, I'm in, charge of something for the most important guy at our company. And I got to just figure out how do you get this done? Even if it's as simple as like a pizza, like we're on our way to a pizza place and

the place is closed, even though they didn't write that on their website. And you've got to off the top of the head find a place on that route to find to see if that place is open without even telling Dave because he'll get mad that we were on our way to a place that was closed. Like little off the dome thinking. So that stuff like that, I'd never used to be a situational thinker, like, but being with Dave has made me a lot better. So out of ten, what do you think you are? Oh, seven. Yeah, that's kind of where I see myself.

I'm going to say seven, right? Yeah, I can't get my own or ten. Like, I'm not fucking... Then you're an asshole. Yeah. I'm not like a fucking war general, like, deciding where, like, everything's going to go. I think I'm okay at it, but I do have a tendency to just ignore things. And then that's a problem.

Like, that's not a way to solve a good problem. Like... And to give, like, to define this, I don't think enough of us, enough of us have been in a problem together where we've seen like who's better at this than others. You know what I mean? Like besides flying to Australia and like dealing with those things, I don't think there's been like a unified problem that we've all had to address to stack rank it.

Yeah, I would say as a group, we're pretty good. Like I think being able to book out a full trip to Australia like that, we did all that ourselves. Like now we're just acting like we're like that's amazing that we're able to do that. But that's what adults can do is just like handle shit. But like, yeah, I think we're all above average. I don't think we're nines or tens. I guess where you want to be.

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a bunker like 40 feet past the hole. And he brought up the point that it's quite often referenced that Jack Nicholas had like a pretty shit short game for how good he is. And he sort of asked the question like how bad really was Jack's short game. And it got me thinking too that like I've heard Tiger and some of the documentaries talk like, they've asked him to talk about Jack's game. And he'll make little like jabs where he'll be like, you know, like Jack's short game wasn't the best.

But and then he'll go into like how good his swing was. stuff. So it really got me thinking like I would I would love to watch around like a Jack Nicholas round on PGA tour live or something where you could actually you have to watch every fucking shot that the guy hits. Like how bad do you think Jack's short game really was? I just had this conversation last night when I hopped that fence and met my buddies because we were playing on one of these these there was no one on the course at the time and I just dropped like three or four balls around the green and I'm like I have to learn how to hit this shot. I was like maybe 10 yards off the green and I'm like I have to be able to not put these.

I got to be able to hit the I got to be able to take a 58 degree and just fucking hit a wedge up there tight and I bladed all four of them. I bladed three of them and chunked one of them and I just took my putter out and he's like well be like that's just like not the way you're supposed like I don't know it's just like not the way you're supposed to play the game of golf right like why why can't I just take this wedge and hit it like Phil Mickelson. Why? Why can't I learn how to do that? So yeah, I think that, I don't know. I mean, I've never, I've never, it's interesting you say that because in all the highlights, you never really see his short game.

You just see him ripping it or like hitting a pot. But I know, great potter, but like, I think his chipping and bunker play, I think, like, they always just say, not that it sucked, but it just wasn't like up to the level the rest of the games. Does that mean he was like the 20th best kind of like short game player? Does that mean he was awful? Is he like 180? He was known to use like a. No, now I'm really interested, though.

He was known to use a putter from, like, off the green, right? And, like, and put the ball from various places. I think so, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's not, like, that's not the golfer. I want to be. I don't want to be like Jack. I don't want to have bad knees and sitting on a fucking boat when I'm 90 years old,

whatever, and worrying about other people. But I don't, I'd rather be like Tiger Woods where I can take a wedge and just flop a potomis it right next to the hole and, like, be an absolute fucking weapon. Like, that's what I, I don't want to play like Jack anymore. I feel like I'm playing, like, Jack right now. now we're on the greens. I want to, I want to find out from like Brandel.

I feel like Brandl has like the fucking statistical breakdown of Jack short game. Like was he just awful? Was he just blading chips all over the place? Or was he fine? I mean, he's the, you know,

like maybe the best swing in the world for 20 or 30 years and the best most clutch putter in the world, but his short game was just fine? Or was it like bad? I don't. Yeah, I'd love to know. That's why I didn't know if you were going to back

up with like a Brandl stat or something that you got from him because I'd be super interested to know, you know, whatever, Tita Green he was this or like number one in the field, but within 100 yards or whatever those stats are to hear like, how bad was he? Like, was he in the top 50? Here's one. In 1979, Jack Nicholas finished a lowly 79th on the PGA tour money list. He hadn't won a tournament in a year and a half. His driver was bleeding yards. His short game was so shaky that one revered teacher compared it to that of a quote, eight or 10 handicapper. That even may have been a generous characterization.

Jack Nicholas recalled one day, I started putting the ball around bunkers. I was so bad. I almost started putting the ball around bunkers. I was so bad. So he's like you, Frank. Yeah. Like eight to ten handicap, like that's how he's playing.

I mean, your short game is obviously. Yeah, his is probably 20 to 30. But like, that's stunning. I didn't think it'd be that bad. Yeah, I mean, that's also at one point. Yeah, yeah, one point. Yeah, like Tiger was like that for a year too. He couldn't, I mean, couldn't chip a ball into a green.

So, like, that happens. Remember the waste management? He was just blading shots over the green. Well, this article is, Tiger's damage not finished, says the man who cured Jack's short game was. This was in 2015. Wow. I want to know, I want to know, like, his average year,

like a average year where Jack won three times and won a major. Yeah. What was his short game like? Was he 50th? Was he like 190th or was he like 11th with his short game? What was he? I'd be very curious. Work to do.

We got work to do. We probably could have just researched that. Yeah, exactly. I didn't know. The question almost alluded to the fact that like we were going to guess and then you had the stat behind the curtains. But it just was now just, it's just confusion. It's just hit the airway.

Yeah. I prefer what you guys just kind of guess at, yeah, or maybe just be like, like, oh, he was fucking awful. I heard some guy was telling me one time. but I'm going to say he was 17th on an average year. It can't be that bad. Like it can't be out of the top 50. There's no way.

Give it the top 50 still, like the range of miss in the top 50 is probably only like a yard or two. You know, it's probably within four and a half feet is the top 50. Yeah. Which is crazy because then if you're four and a half feet, the putts, you know, then you drop eight percentage points and then your two strokes worse around. and then you're a little off of 28-a-tor. I'm trying to think are any of Jacks, like, highlights, chips. That's what I can't think in my head of, right?

Like, Tiger has the fucking, obviously the Masters. He has the one at Mirfield at Jack's tournament where he flubbed the first one and then hold the second one where he does the massive fist. But, like, he's got the other one at Mirfield when he was playing with Ricky, where he hit the huge flop from behind the green after he came back from the whole thing,

and Ricky's in all orange, and it just fucking trial. Like, he's got multiple, he's got the one where he hold out when he was with Duval. and that World Cup thing where he had. Like, he's got chips. 16th of Augusta where he chips. I mean,

like he's got so many memorable chips. It's crazy. And it's, and you don't see any from Jack. So it's like, am I just not thinking of that? Dude, I'm reading more about this.

He really talks about his short game a lot. This is Golfing Digest.com. The only short game I ever had was the one I developed myself. I wasn't like Tiger who was, this is another shot at Tiger Woods, like learning. I wasn't like Tiger who was small. as a boy and develop the tremendous short game.

I didn't have to- fuck you, Jack. Fuck you. Fuck you. Man. Like, dude. Now, wait a minute. Let's take a stop here and say,

are you acting like Tiger Woods had an easier upbringing in the game of golf than Jack Nicholas? But he was full. Slow your role there, Jack. Let's reread that. I wasn't like Tiger, who was small as a boy and developed a tremendous short game. I didn't have any lessons.

I didn't have any lessons with the short game. It was the only area that Jack Grout, my longtime teacher really didn't spend any time with me. I didn't practice my short game because I didn't know what to practice. I never learned anything. As a kid, if I had gone to someone like Paul Runyon, my short game would have been much different. Then he says it took him until 1980 to concede that he had an attack of the chipping

yips. I wanted to put it around bunkers, blah, blah, blah. The dramatic improvement made at the late stage underscores, what a difference that some kind of effort would have made earlier. So he basically says, like, after all those years of basically saying, I didn't have a good short game. He said that he didn't need one because here he goes, I didn't need a good short game because my philosophy became,

I'm going to hit 14 or 15 greens around. And I'm going to hit at least a couple of par fives and two. And I'm going to make every single putt inside 10 feet. So it really doesn't make any difference how good my short game was. As long as I could tip the ball, slop it around the hole somewhere, six, eight, 10 feet. I was probably going to make it anyway. Right.

And it ultimately just speaks to the strong parts of his other game. of his game. Because then he goes on to say that was an accommodation. It wasn't ideal. And it was foolish for me to believe that that was good enough. He goes back. If Jack had a wedge game, no doubt in my mind, he would have had won 30 majors,

says Lee Trevino, who won six, several at Jack's expense. Are you kidding me? 30? Dude, they're acting like he fucking was incapable of chipping a ball onto the green. Yeah. How about Jack saying, like,

if I had, oh, yeah, nobody. Oh, this article makes you want to throw up. And then he also blames Jack Rout for his coach to coach him. It's like, just take a little responsibility. Maybe you just learn how to fucking chip the ball, old man. Right. Exactly like something was stopping him from work.

Like, like, like, I don't know. Like someone was like, no, you can't enter the short range area today. Right. I tell people all the time, if Jack in his prime could have played the clubs and balls that these guys are playing today, he would have hit this. He would have hit that sum of bitch 400 yards. I believe tigers are going to catch him. If Jack had a short game, even Tiger wouldn't even be able to touch him.

This is Lee Trevino. Fuck off. Like, they're acting like Tiger grew up with fucking in some mansion compound in Jupiter, Florida, like he lives at now. He grew up in Earl Woods' fucking horror prison. Yeah. Like, go out in the garage and hit balls for 15 hours straight. Like, what are you talking about, Jack? Wow.

Glad we got to the bottom of this. Sounds like a short game sucked. Massive chipping woes and massive short game problems. but the fact he was hitting 15 greens around. That's what his goals was. He wasn't doing that. No, I know, but, like, I mean, he had to have been doing it at some point if, like, for a couple years span, he wasn't, he was putting around greens.

How about that fact that came out about Lee Trevino the other day. I tweeted it and then Riggs, you retweeted it where, uh, what one, damn it. Now this is totally butcher. Do you remember that stat? Oh, no. He hit like 17 green or he only, oh, he only missed, um, green or one. Three greens the whole tournament.

or something like that. Yes, which is diabolical. I mean, that's a fake step. I know. I'm sorry. Maybe he had no bogeys

and he only missed, I think, three, three like greens and like five fairways or something the whole week. It's something like that. I remember seeing that. What the fuck?

I saw it and I just had to retweet it. I was like, what the fuck? Boy, Jack Nicholas. Also, like, people don't talk enough about Jack Nicholas's swing,

I feel like. Right? Like, when they, when you see clips online of people like, oh, you should do Adam Scott or you should do, you never see like, oh, you should do like what Jack Nicholas,

who's the greatest player of all time in theory, did. Ah, I'm not co-signing. Nah. I'm not co-signing. All this, like, if he played with these clubs, he'd be better. Like, also.

Then everybody would have had those clubs. Everyone would have had those clubs, which is what Tiger Woods is dealing with. Like, his opponents have those clubs, so he has to beat them with it. It's the same fucking shit, man. So the reach Trevino stat, so he won by eight, he missed just three greens and two fairways for the week.

And he didn't make a vote. That's insane. That's just unimaginable to do that. It was 45 years until another winner went bogey free, the postman. I have a question for you guys. How many times do you guys miss a green in regulation or just like miss your target because you didn't have like the right club? do you think on average, like around?

Like last night I was hitting around, and I was hitting the ball really well on like the four or five holes I played. A couple of times I just missed because I went long or I went just like came up way short. Like it's, I don't usually miss greens that much because I'm that far off swing-wise, I feel like I'm not pushing it that much or pulling it that much. When I get the ball up in the air, it goes like kind of where I wanted to go,

but I often miss with distances, like 90% of time I feel like. I would say I come up short a lot. because of that. But I also, I think a lot of it's because I'm like, okay, if I flush this club, I could get it to that pin. But how often do I flush it? Never.

So then I come up like 10 yards short. I can do that all the time. Happs to me all the, almost every hole is the yardage problem. I've been doing a big thing where I'm literally, I just try to find the center number. So if the pins up front, I just add 10 yards and just pick the club that goes to that or if the pins in the back, take 10 yards off and go to there. especially if it's super windy that's what I go for I don't actually usually I don't miss them long or short I miss them left and that's do you feel like you know your club length do you feel like you

know your yardages of each club yeah pretty good yeah I feel like I don't I feel like I still don't know like yeah I feel like you don't either I don't I genuinely don't like the difference to me between a 50 like if I'm 110 yards out it could be one day a 58 degree that I hit hard or another day it could be a 52 degree that I take soft or one day it's like because the way I'm swinging it could be a 48 like honestly I don't I don't have those numbers how do you stand over the ball with those thoughts

like this thing could go I mean that's probably why you blade them because you don't believe in anything that you're doing you're over the ball thinking this could go 130 or 80 yards yes and that's I mean what are we even doing at that point just pick up the ball and throw it towards the hole I hit at Cherry Valley golf club I hit a wedge a 58

degree wedge 160 yards. Oh, you bladed. Yes. Yeah. I was 110 yards out and I was on the next hole behind it in the fairway. You got to figure out a repeatable. Couldn't believe it.

You can't, you are the opposite of repeatable and that's what you need. You just don't know that. It's what it is. It swings me is trying to kill the ball. I'm also doing this new mental thing where it's like, hey, if you come up short because you swung too soft, that's an okay miss, right? Like, if I swung too slow and too rhythmic,

then maybe next time I'll, do the same thing and just club up. Yeah, you also... Club down. What is that? What is that? What is that? Club down?

Club up. I never understood that. Club up is when you take more club, I think. Like you go from a five hour into a four hour. That fucks me all the time. Club down, which is weird because the numbers... Yeah, right. Frankie, I do think you need to learn that like short is almost always better in golf than

long. Long is... There's nothing designed behind the hole. It's always awful behind the hole because the architect like never went back there. The architect stops his work at the end of the green. That's where I am often hitting off of and chipping up. Here's another thing that I got into a little bit of a fussy,

fussle with fussy tussie tussle, tussle. Boy, who's Shakespeare over here coming out with your word? Who's the most intelligent in the group? Do you think you, what club aside from putter do you think you use the most? And I think it's by far the wedge, like a 58 degree, 56 degree sandwich, right? You, the average golfer uses that an immense, like so much more than any of the club, no?

Probably. It probably for the average. I'm thinking, yeah, probably for the average. Either driver or your go-to wedge, I would assume. Yeah. Because it came up to the point where I was like, all right, I hit these drives well, but I lose so many, I lose so many strokes because I can't hit a wedge. I'm duffing a shot a hole, and like, I'm constantly having a wedge in my hand.

I use my wedge from 100 yards in, 90 yards, 80 yards, 70 yards, 60 yards forward, all the way to five feet off the green. I use the same club. And it's a club I can't hit from any yardage. So, like, to me, if you're an average golfer, that should be the most important club to practice. I guess, no. But I got this debate on the T-box.

My friend said the average golfer would take a good drive over a good wedge shot any day of the week. Like, you would take a good driver game over a good wedge game. But so it started. I said, I think every average golfer should just work on their wedge game because it would save them a million strokes. And he said, well, I can't hit the ball off the T. Like, in my show my short game, doesn't matter to anyone. Like, right. I tend to agree with that. Me too. So I, yeah, I think, and I do, if you kick it off the tea, golf is the least enjoyable thing in the world. You can't play. You can't play. Yes. But I think, 44. I do think, Frankie, to your point, that the biggest mistake for

amateur golfers is using their 52, 56 and 60 degree wedge all the time and changing them around because muscle memory, you're just not practicing enough to use all those clubs at a different time. So I literally every time it's a close wedge shot, I pull my 60 degree and I just play it with a 60 degree. Yeah, because I was just trying to, I was like, we're all missing greens. We're not fucking professional golfers. So like you're constantly hitting these wedge shots. And like if we all just focused on that, we'd be significantly better golfers. Like we all go to the range. We go to like the fucking municipal range here at like Eisenhower.

We just rip a thousand drives and then we walk, we go home. Like we never go to a short range. We never go to a short game range and like work on our fucking little chips and bunker shots. Like that's where all the strokes are coming. And his point was like, yeah, like I, like fine. I can hit a nice chip up to the green. But like it took me five strokes to get there because I went out of bounds off the tea.

I dribble the ball three times. And like, I couldn't figure out what I was doing. Right. And I would say like if you're hitting it like, as long as you're hitting it mediocre and like in the same ballpark as other people, but you have a significantly better short game, you will kill people. Yeah. Like we've all played,

you've all played against people that you're just like, this fucking guy is just getting up and down from everywhere and you'll just destroy people. I mean, you do that, Riggs. Like, you'll sometimes slap it around a little bit, like off the T, like hit it right, hit it left, and then like you somehow are putting for par every single thing. Yeah. That's the thing.

Riggs will make a 13-footer or an eight-footer and like he can get hot. I can't tell you how many messages I've gotten from people like my buddies who watch your like 18 hole things where you're like putting up the tripod where they're like he's in the sand pit off the T-box every single hole. And then like to the point of way they thought like you're like cheating. They're like, how is he putting for par when every hole he's like on the side? I'm like, well, no, you guys don't get that. Like he scrambles better than like anyone. Right. That's my game.

What's the little helpful him? Who says it that if you just check. Hank Haney. Hank Haney. He says it's every level, whether you're telling you're telling you. Tiger Woods at his peak or whether you're a 25 handicap who's like learning the game and getting into it. He says in every single level, there's only three things people got to focus on to shave strokes off their game. It's no penalty strokes. So like not hitting it in fucking hazards and not

hitting out of bounds. No double chips. So like anytime you're in a chipping situation, just get it on the green and no three puts. You can eliminate those three things. Like every single player on every level, that's really what it boils down to, which is fucking fascinating. Like you don't have to hit a great job. Just hit it in play. You don't have to hit a great iron. Just hit it up near the green. You don't have to hit a great chip. Chip it like somewhere on the green. And then just you don't have to make every putt. Just don't three jack. And then when you do hit your good shots, all that'll add up to an okay score. That's like really not that bad. That's pretty much my game, I would say, for the most part. Yeah, you do that really well.

I tried to change my mental stance on putting the other day when I played. He was saying, okay, if I've got a 30 foot or 25 footer, let's, let's pretend like, let's believe it we're going to make this. Let's give it like a run at it and try to make these No. And I just, it's, yeah, it's gone the other way. But like, I want to feel like I want to make a 20 footer, a 25 footer. And I'm, I just kind of stay defensive, I guess. Stu Hogastod, again, I'm going to bring him out because he loves to text me about my game, which is cool. And he was like, he's like, why are you practicing? You shouldn't really practice like 15 or 20 foot putts. He's like, if you look, the tour average at like six and a half or seven feet or whatever it is, the tour, that's where the, even the best players in the world make the, make their putts like, 50 or less than 50% of the time. And he's like, so all you should really be practicing are like six feet and in. Because if you make those, those are the ones, those are the difference where you really

could make them or not. He's like, once you get to like eight, nine, 10, 12 feet out, the best players in the world don't make them more than half the time. So you're not going to make up any strokes. Like you should be making them up from within five feet, six feet. You should never be missing. That's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting.

That is interesting because, you know, we're just the weekend acts that go out with the practice range or practice green prior, dropped three balls at 15 feet. Be like, oh, I made two of them sick. I'm going to be on fire today. I'm fucking sick today. Oh, yeah. You don't make one.

It's going to be a good day, boys. 92. You miss seven, five footers all day. You fucking shoot 91. Yeah, yeah, great. That was fun. One thing while we're talking about our games and stuff, I have a tip that's helping me that's helping me tremendously right now.

Yep. I'm not one to give out tips, but you know what? We're not on the T-box. It doesn't matter. you have time to either digest this or just tell me to go fuck myself. But I was told by a pro, my buddy Maddie at Cherry Valley, who said what I was doing is I was coming over the ball a lot and all my misses were hooks. And he said, you're a baseball player, you play baseball, whatever.

Hit the ball to shortstop. I'm a lefty. He goes, hit the ball to the shortstop. When you're on, when you're making contact, take your regular swing, have the nice tempo. And when you're coming down the ball, think about hitting that ball like you're hitting grounders to the fucking shortstop, like, when you're fucking warming up in the morning, boom, and, like, go at it. And I'm not kidding.

Like, if you do that even, like, slightly mentally, you're not really changing anything with your swing. You're just thinking about a guy at shortstop. You extend your arms. And when you, like, stop the video or whatever and you swing, you're fully perfectly extended with, like, that triangle. Everything, you're not, like, you're not tucked in at all. You're not coming around it.

You're perfectly out at the ball. And it helps, like, it, I'm just, I'm still, like, when, whatever. I have a mistake here and there, but I'm hitting the ball so flush with a draw right down the middle. It's like laugh out loud funny. And the only reason I know this tip kind of works for people that like have that mistake is I told two guys who were topping it as well or like pulling it. I told them both to hit the ball of the shortstop and two times on two holes they both drilled their next drive mentally thinking about short stuff. That is so weird. I literally got that tip yesterday on the cradle and my game significantly improved, but I'm a righty.

So I have to hit the second base. Yeah, second base right field. And it was like life changing. That and like my shoulders. It's a mental life changing tip. Wow. Interesting. So righty, second baseman.

Lefty shortstop. Yep. And it's not even like, you're not obviously flinging your arms out there. You're just mentally thinking, all right. Like if I'm looking at the pitcher right now, which is the dead center of the fairway, and I make contact with this ball, just go to shortstop or second base. try and start that ball out there. Throw your hands at him.

Oh, it's, it's, because when you don't think about something like that, you're just swinging and you can come around it, no problem. Like, you just fucking turn on those things, and that's where the hooks and the snaps happen. You know what some kid gave me a tip on? We were playing the other day. He didn't even give me the tip.

He gave it to somebody else, and it just ruined the rest of my round. Was at the top of your swing, your first move should be forward. And he just said this to somebody else, but I was in the group. and now the next shot I had was an iron shot in the fairway and I mean I'd hit three inches behind the ball I just chunked it like 30 feet I was like I mean remember that one tip we got where it was like

your fastest swing should be like on the down impact like your club should be oh yeah it's fastest through impact it's fastest through impact and then I'm like I get up here I'm like you whoa there's like club is getting fucking flung into the trees I'm like wow It was at fastest impact, all right? Stu Hoggessad, are you happy? Or whoever knows how to hit the golf ball. You just told me the most ridiculous, like, swing, playing. Like, what am I a fucking biochemist that I know?

Like, just tell me to hit it to the shortstop. That's so much dumber and easier for me than to tell me that my swing plane at impact needs to be a faster motion. What do you want to see? See you. Never a good idea, at least for guys like us to just start speeding things up. Dude, that means I'm going to go. That's a recipe for disaster.

That's like King de Kekar. fucking at six flags where it goes and then I'm like slowly taking it back and I'm like here impacts about the come baby I just grip it and rip it everybody you can have a conversation

I'm actually impacts about the cum boys why you guys stay six feet apart you're in the stands at a Natt Talladega exactly I will say I've been watching a ton of your golf swings and Frankie your tempo is different almost every single swing man it's bad I have a lot I have bad tempo when I try you can tell that I rush it when I like I'm trying to hit a

green like really badly I'm like gripping the club as hard as I can I'm like all right seven iron 170 yards let's fucking fling this thing to the air and then I I like go really quick I just need to fucking relax you are all tempo your swings tempo. I just need to, like, the ball's going to get there with a slower swing. It's going to get there. Gotta let the club do the work. Because it's not much slower than you think it is.

It's pretty much the same thing. Dude, it is, it is great having Brandon Ebug here because he's like, we go to, we show up to a course and he legit knows every single hole and he's never been here before. And he knows where we were, like where our golf balls were, like, oh, that's where, like, Frankie was in that rough right there. He hit a pretty good, like, little seminar. I'm like, what the fuck did you just say? How is it?

Never been here before. It's really, it's weird. Really funny story about Tobacco Road, which I've never actually been to, period. I saw one of our buddies here at Pinehurst. He had a Tobacco Road shirt on. And then like in the middle of the shirt, we're like these two mounds. So I look at him and go, hey, man, that's the first hole at Tobacco Road on your shirt. And he looks at me and goes, what the fuck are you talking about?

And I'm like, that's the two mounds on the first hole at Tobacco Road. He's like, I didn't even know that. And I'm like, I'd never even have been there. It's hysterical. Well, everyone can say that if you just watch our video. you'll know every little crevice of tobacco road. Every nook, every cranny, every blade of grass, every grain of sand, it's all in there. It's all on the drone.

So go check it out. YouTube, 4Play golf or on Barstville Sports Tobacco Road. And we should have Pioneer's number eight out. I would say our goal is to have it out next week. Worst case, two weeks. And then roll through Pioneers number two and Pioneers number four as well, which we shot in November. And they're fucking awesome. So I'm jacked up for people to see those.

I think we're done here, boys, right? You're going to go be the gatekeeper of Finehurst tonight? I can sense people are out there doing things they shouldn't right now, and I've got to get out there. I've had almost two hours to digest that story, and I agree that those people, if those guys were driving carts around like maniacs, they're wrong. Like, they are in the wrong.

I just find it not, I wouldn't take the picture, is what I'm saying. I think the picture. Two hours later, you're George Costanza getting to his poll. I think the picture really turned you guys off tomorrow. It feels dirty. Like the lurch thing made sense. Like he said it like in a good way where he's like, you know, there's guys out there.

But I also don't know your relationship with the, like I don't know. No one knows what's going on over there. Like those guys probably your buddies at this point. Whatever. But I just feel, I feel I like, I feel those guys pain when they saw that Marshall coming up or whoever.

Oh, fuck where, you know, I felt dirty. I said to, I said to Bren, I said, man, I feel like the biggest loser in the world right now. And I'm, the only reason I brought up the Pinehurst connection was not to sound like a douchebag who keeps talking about it. But like one of the guys legitimately, the guy who I hit up, invited me to his wedding in July.

Like we become boys. We spend a lot of time together. And so I was like, hey man, I just weren't like, do you know if this shit's going on because it's kind of under his guard. So shenanigans is going on out there under his watch. That looks bad on him. so that was sort of my, but it, I get it. That's why I started it off with like, I gnarct on people.

I knew it would go this way. I'm glad it did. It was a fun conversation. If there's one thing to come out of this podcast, I want someone to make the meme of Riggs with the lady at the phone. I want someone to change that face and I want that meme sent to me and I'm going to use it. And just as a close, I will say that we haven't admitted like I was angry at these kids. We were trying to work and I was like, why are you here?

Get away from us. Like, Riggs hasn't admitted like if he was at any way, he didn't seem to. But I was annoyed. I was like, guys, get the fuck out of it. That does say something because you shouldn't be here. The poise can get very rattled very quickly. I don't know you as well. I'm laid back, dude.

I am laid back. And we were like just chilling. But Brendan, as a listener to that, someone that's like stuck in their fucking room and the world is ending, when you hear that like, you guys are mad that someone was driving up behind you

at Pinehurst number four because they were in carts. It sounds a little off-putting when like, my restaurant's burning to the ground. And it's like, who gives a fuck that the person was driving? in a cart behind you. I know that everything's relative, but like, who cares?

Just have a fucking, you guys are at piner's. There should be anarchy at piner's. You guys are living in fucking, you guys are living in heaven. Like, people should be having sex on the greens and shit. Like,

you guys are, you guys are in the greatest place on earth right now. You're stuck in one of the greatest golf courses in the world. It's a fair point. It's a fair point. I'm sorry. It's like,

you know, is the jealousy that you guys are in a better spot than us? Sure, I'm staring at four fucking gray walls in my room. It sucks. I'm not golfing. right now. Same.

All right. It's a fair point. That's a fair point. All right, boys. That was fun. That was about two hours. It felt like real old school show here. Yeah, that was what it was.

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We'll be back on Tuesday for our next podcast. Have a lovely rest of the week. Week weekend. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.