Fore Play - Nate Bargatze: Hiding Golf, Content Decisions, & Protecting The Boss Man

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

Nate Bargatze (94:15) joins the show. We discuss his hilarious new Netflix special, the new golf simulator he installed in his house, matches vs Shay Mooney, going on Joe Rogan, and much more. Before Nate, we react to LA County keeping the cause of Tiger’s accident secret, the new Behind The Greens episode, and take several From The Galleries. Would we rather have Tiger on the pod for 30 minutes or play Rory in a Fore Man Scramble? Will The Players ever be considered a major? Is it okay to embroider your name on your golf bag? And, obviously much more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. We're doing the clap thing. Nobody knows. It seems like we're going to a place. Last time, Lurch didn't clap. What are you giving the no for this time? I think I was at least a second early because I was so like, well, I was non-existent last time, but this time.

You wanted to get a clap then. Frankie and I in the same room we clapped at different times. So I don't know how that's going to work. Correct. Good luck, Jake. Do you guys need to clap if we, if you're both, do you both need to clap if you're in the same room? Probably not. Okay.

That's probably a misstep. Could have been, probably made it more confusing, but now we are here. And listeners don't even know what we're talking about because it's all synced now. It's a learning process. We're working on it. We're all in different places, large is in Florida. I just got the North Carolina, which is the site of the next Barstow Classic on Monday. The boys, Trent and Frankie are back.

in New York, so we're all over the place right now. But as this podcast comes out, marks one week from the beginning of the Masters. The Masters will start a week from Thursday, which is crazy to think about. The last major championship that we had was the Masters won by Dustin Johnson. Would you put out our video with Dustin Johnson, which is doing extremely well? Some very funny moments in that video. I hadn't really seen much of the video outside of just living it when we filmed it. So we're going to break a little bit more of that down.

There's a couple tidbits from that that I laughed out loud at that I completely forgotten about. Nate Brigazzi, one of the funniest people in the world, new special out this month. I think that it came out this month. He's a huge golfer. He's got a new simulator in his house. He's going to join our show. And I'm sure you'll get lots of laughs with him because last time he was on it was hilarious. He's a big friend of the program.

So Nate's coming on a little bit. But gentlemen, we got a lot of them. I mean, we have more like announcements and shit to do too. We got behind the greens episode two is coming out tonight. Tonight. So there's a lot. There's just a lot going on right now. Yeah.

As I sit here speaking to you guys, we have maybe half the video edited and done. So I mean, we're putting a public deadline out there, which Trent thought was pretty smart where you just like announced that this video is coming out tomorrow and you have to get it done. No matter what. I mean, that just means no sleep tonight. which is fine but tonight tonight tonight as you're listening to this behind the greens episode two or volume two that's up to you man i mean this thing is your baby i don't know maybe not even just an episode i think it's just going to be behind the greens the off season i

think it's coming out really good um i love it i love what we have so far yeah and what's crazy is we haven't even edited the best part yet which is um the stuff at national golf links the burn the whole stuff you if you're listening to this you've probably already seen the teaser um yeah i'm excited i mean this is uh we'll see if people enjoy this one as much as they did the wingfoot one because it's definitely a different episode but you feel nervous about the move of putting a public deadline on something that otherwise wouldn't get done in that time if you didn't put the deadline yes very very much so but we needed to get it out because there's just too much going on we have another dustin johnson video coming out on tuesday it's easter weekend we've got the masters coming up next week and then

After the Masters, the Masters is springtime. That's what it is. You think of the Masters, you think of springtime. I can't release an off-season video about snow, winter, burning of grass and all this stuff after the Masters. It's got to be a pre-masters video. And that's what we're going to do. It's tonight. It's coming out.

It's not that I'll feel there's nothing that's going to be missing from this video tonight. It's just going to take me less. I'm sleeping less because of it. That's the only reason. I've been sitting in a room with Frankie Borelli the last two days. for probably an average of 8 to 10 hours. And I can say that a public deadline works for a guy like Frankie Borelli. Because there are moments when something isn't necessarily going the way that he wants.

And he'll just be like, we're just not doing the video. We're just not going to do it anymore. I give up and I no longer want to do this. And then he remembers on Sunday night that he put out a public deadline and it has to come out. So it might not work for everybody, but it definitely works for Frankie Borelli because it puts him back in the saddle after he spins out when. one piece isn't working or it isn't the way that he wants it. So he might not realize that, but it works for him.

Yeah. Look, everybody's got what they respond to best, right? Like some players, when it comes to coachability, the coach can ream them out, be ruthless with them and they'll only get better. Other players are going to a shell. They need to be reinforced with confidence. So it just totally depends. Your process is put a deadline on yourself to kind of drive in your focus

and then Frankie Braley will get it done. And I know from those experiences, I don't even think that it's that Frankie, that it's like, oh, it's going to take him too long. It's that he's just going to keep tweaking because you're a perfectionist, Frankie. So you just keep tweaking stuff nonstop. And you'll do that until basically the world ends and gets swallowed up by the sun unless a deadline gets put on. Right. I think we're down a producer after this one. I mean, I think I'm breaking eBug to the point where I don't even know if it's a good work environment anymore.

I mean, like we both were there. We both shot the footage. We both mapped out where it was going to be. We went to the golf courses. We did the whole thing. And I'm still acting as though like it wasn't good enough. Like I'm the one who filmed it. And I'm like, this is the worst shot I've ever seen in my entire life.

And he is such a nice guy that he doesn't be like, dude, who do you think film this? Who filmed this drone shot? I'm like, you need to get rid of it. You need to pack up your laptop and you need to go home. And then he just looks at me. He's like, are you serious? I'm like, no. Fucking, let's go.

Let's keep editing it. So it's a process. Let me tell you, but I think he enjoys... Hold on, you're telling me when you say, I hate his drone shot, he doesn't say like, you shot it and he says sorry. No, no, no, no. He's just taking it right now because he knows how stressed I get. And I've never been able to really relay that stress

because usually I'm working on Dave's stuff and there's a timeline. I got to be up by six. And I internalize all that stress. It fucking freaks me out. I want to throw up. I want to die. But with this, I'm able to at least express it onto someone. Like, like all, everything that I'm,

stressing about with this video, it just goes on to eBug. Two days ago before I saw any of the footage or anything, I sat down and Frankie was basically telling me what they had so far. Like, this is what we have? And if you had asked me, like, what's it going to look like once the thing, once you finally get to see the footage? I would have said, well, they don't have anything. What I've been told by Frankie, they just have like cameras looking at the ground or

cameras looking at the sky and no audio of anyone explaining anything. And then he shows me a rough cut. And I'm like, dude, that's fucking great. Like it's really good. And Riggs, you were right when you said he's a perfectionist. He doesn't, he doesn't, he's not going to, even when it's finished. And he's like, all right, let's export it and put it on YouTube. He's going to be like, I hate this thing.

I fucking hate it. But it's going to be a good product. I guarantee it. Yeah, it's really good. It reminds me of the set. Have you ever watched a little documentary on South Park and how, you know, those episodes get made? Seven days to air. It's unreal.

And it reminds me very much of when they finally submit their final product. And it's getting ready to literally air and they do it last minute every fucking week. that they hate it. They think it's the worst show. It's not funny. Not a single joke was made. They despise it. It goes out and the world loves it.

So that is our Frankie Borelli, who, Trent, you sounded out well. He acts like there's not a single usable shot yet. The footage in the video is going to be awesome. So 8 p.m. tonight, Frankie. I think that's probably going to be your deadline. Good luck. I hope Ebug is still alive and that he is choosing to be employed by Barstow Sports and the four-point podcast at the end of all that.

everyone enjoys it. Full disclosure, it's going to be a different episode than the first one, but I think the beauty of it and just how interesting it is, what goes on while we're all home, sitting at home, watching the snow come down, or it's freezing outside. You're not even thinking about golf. What's going on at the golf courses, especially your local clubs? You know, a lot of the audio from these guys are like, you know, we have high expectations from our members, blah, blah, blah.

You know, we got to be here. They get to go home. They get to go to fucking Florida. And they get to go be the snowbirds. And we're like, the most interesting part about golf course maintenance and what I thought came out of this video is that their busy season is the off season. That's when shit starts to go. Right? Like during the regular season, you know, when a lot of the play is happening, that's just going through the motions.

Mowing the greens in the morning, cutting it, making sure the grass is good. Let's make sure this golf course is ready to go. It's a fucking shit when no one's on the golf course When they actually have time and money And they have time to prepare to make major renovations And do these crazy fucking drill and fills I think people are going to enjoy it And yeah, I'm excited

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with an Ann, Anisbrook. Almost like it's Scottish. Wait, say it, Riggs. Enisbrook. No, you changed it now. I think you changed. Yeah, you changed. Peer pressure got to you. You've been there for two straight days. Have you been saying

that to everyone on the ground? I don't even know what I'm I don't think he fundamentally knows what he said. It seemed like you put it in. E on the front of it. Enisbrook. Enisbrook. Enisbrook. That's what I was saying? Enisbrook. Yeah. We're going with more of an inn. I wish I would have just fucking stuck with Ennisbrook and told you guys to fuck yourself. I mean, you've been there for, I don't know, like 20 straight hours to the point where I'm like, oh, that's like, you know that's the inside trade right there.

You know everything. And we don't because we haven't been there. There's probably people at the golf course being like this fucking guy's got two events here. It doesn't even know what the fuck the golf course is called. Welcome to Enisbrook. Oh, we had the wrong course. what was the other one that I you guys insurance so it's the same it's it's the same if it starts with an eye apparently I don't know how to say it totally I end man it's tough spot to be yeah so I don't know in this brook that's what that's the right one we think in this brook I was trying to think another I end word for him to say incapable insulation insulation we don't have to we don't have to

we don't have to catch him in it all I know is that you say that is brook just Yeah, when I'm focused, I do it right. Shout out to who, would you say it before? I cut you off. Shout out to who? Shout out to Brady. He was the one who, who hit us with the airplane, luggage, golf bag question the day about how you can't have other things in your golf bag.

You'd charge like $200. I got a bunch of follow-ups from this because we were, inevitably, which another I-N-word, inevitably, we went down the road of, is the plane, like if somebody's bags three pounds over, don't need to know that if they're trying to level out the plane or if it's for flying purposes, what's the deal? From what I'm receiving, it's all about the baggage handlers and that there's a bunch of liability issues with baggage handers. If you have a bunch of bags over 50 pounds that somebody throws out their back and you've got a huge fucking issue on your hand. So we're trying to protect all the baggage handlers. Yeah, I got the same feedback because what they told everybody probably got the same message that you throw everything in your mother in your carry-on bag.

nobody associates any weight to that. So it's more about the handlers, which I had no idea about. Are we convinced then that they don't know the weight of all the baggage when this, when this bird flies into the fucking sky? No. That can't be right. It's either that they are so below the threshold with, like they, they must know that we could put three or four times as many 50 pound bags in this plane and we'd still be fine.

They must know. Yeah, I agree with that. I think there's a weight capacity that just we don't even come close to. If every single person on a 250 person plane, if that's how many people a plane fits, I don't even know if it's 100. It's a really big plane. Super big plane. 110 maybe? I'd say, I'd say around.

I was going to say 80. Okay. So let's say about 100 people, right? Let's say we all just pack our fucking carry-ons with bricks. Every single person. You just got tons of bricks on this fucking plane. You're telling me that that bird doesn't fly any differently. then had no bricks gone on that plane?

I'd say no. It sounds like my guess is that they build them in a way where there's no way any amount of luggage can get on this airplane that's going to make it drop out of the sky. You guys see that bird fucking fly into that plane with the Utah Jazz plane? Crazy. I did see that. What the fuck kind of bird was that? Do we know what kind of bird it was? No.

I mean, what kind of bird does that much? I mean, did you see the blood splatter? It was like a taradactyl this thing flew into. The fact that there's those types of birds in an area where you could actually hit them on your Ascension Ascension Ascent? Ascent. Let me tell you something about words. Yeah, well.

Let me tell you that we. Snipers Paradise out there. We've been writing a fucking script for this video, right? Because here we go again with a plug for Behind the Greens. But behind the greens this episode doesn't have as much of a story like fucking Steve Rabidoo at Wingfoot told the story. We had our narrator whose name is Cheeks McCray, I believe, or McCoy. His name's Cheeks. And he only spoke a couple times in the first episode.

He will be speaking a ton in this episode because it takes you from scene to scene. And we're trying to write a fucking script for this guy to eloquently speak and bring us, as if someone who knows words would write a fucking script. Unfortunately, it's like Trent and I trying to figure out how to fucking write this thing. You've got to see us arguing, debating. figuring out what makes sense. I mean, when you think about words for that long, the simplest sentences don't make sense anymore.

Where you're like, is it is, is it ours, is it they? You just don't even know what makes sense. What's your guys' best line so far? What's like your best line so far? Let me see. I know when Frankie's getting frustrated with everything that's going on in the room when we're trying to write the narration and we're stuck on some sentence, and he'll just go, didn't you go to school for this?

And it is true I did, but I didn't graduate. But he seems to think that I'm some Shakespearean character that's going to come in and be able to put all these words in. And we end up getting it done. But there's arguing and there's haggling over certain parts of the video. You know, we actually tried to- Frankie panic. Frank, are you panic-working this right now as we do the podcast?

Yes. Because we know the deadlines tomorrow night. Yes. Marking on it as we do the pod right now. Excellent. There's certain things. I didn't mean to interrupt. What's your best line?

No, it's not really a best line because, you know, we tried, the biggest thing that we struggled with is trying to make it conversational. So that's what, when we talk to our narrator, we're going to be like, can you act like you're really talking to someone? And the person that I keep saying is Neil deGrasse Tyson. I want it to be like Cosmos. I want, you know when you turn on Cosmos and he's like, what is this universe? And it's like, holy fuck, yeah, what is it? And he's like, who are the people that discovered it? Like, it's these questions.

So I wanted to be like that. So trying to come up. I mean, you're asking this guy to talk about the grass. Like he's the most renowned physicist in the world talking about the universe's biggest issue. Because I do think there's a mockumentary style of behind the greens. I think that there is like a funniness. Because like we are a comedy brand at some point. And I do think making this as serious and dramatic as possible about a bunch of guys who went

to fucking turf school and cut grass and do all this fucking maintenance of golf courses. Like this is the most beautifully worded and like thoughtful piece about these fucking like blue collar hard hat lunch pal fucking dirty shoes when they come home type men. I think there's such a funny aspect of that. There was such a funny aspect of that in the Wingfoot episode. I mean at one point Dave goes like this was all like a comedy, right? And I said like, well, it wasn't originally really supposed to be, but I do see what you're saying. We're like playing fucking violins to a guy mowing grass.

Right. The music was crazy dramatic. Like it had to be somewhere funny. Like it was. So I made it. The video is intent. It almost like it's grounds crew people like, you know, making its golf course perfect.

But you had almost like cultivating like military style music where like you were, you know, you were like, I don't know, circling the wagons about this golf course. I thought that aspect. I mean, I think we have ballerina music in this one at one point.

Yep. So yeah. It comes back. So, like, we're all over the map. Right. But, like, yeah, made it like if they didn't cut the grass properly, the Germans were going to take over the world. That's pretty much how they're painted. Well, you know what?

These guys deserve, they deserve their time in the fucking, in the limelight. You know what I mean? They really do. These guys are fucking awesome workers. Here's like, one sentence was braving the elements. That's something that really took us a long time to come up with that word. Because originally we had, he goes out there in the snow. And I'm like, well, that just.

just doesn't that sounds like i said it so in trends like maybe braving and we're typing in synonym dot com going outside it's it's crazy so all right i i i'm really steering us off the fucking riles here go watch okay we've all been go watch deep in the synonyms dot com game if you haven't been then you're fucking liar or you've just never written a good paper because i feel like teachers love the good synonym i used to um plagiarize and i used to just copy it in pace and then I would change all the words on synonym.com. Do you think they never caught onto that? You know, I'd change it to the point where I think they were just like, whatever.

I'm pretty sure there's a software out there that sniffs that out. I don't know if... Is that a new software? I don't know. But I think it was around when I was in college, which was just 100 years ago at this point. But so I think it's been around for a while. Okay. But you could also have...

If you change every word, there's no way the software can have. I think it... I could see Frankie going at a point of, like, putting in an and mean like synonyms. I synonyms. Like, just going right down the dam. That was the work. The big adjectives in the sentence. What?

That was the work was figuring out, like it wasn't, the work wasn't writing an essay. That's what I'm, I was just going to say, you could have just taken less time and written a play. Yeah. Yeah. I was bad, man. Um, anyways, behind the greens, we'll be out tonight. Check it out. Offseason.

It's really good. Frankie, make sure you get that done so that we're not. lying on this podcast. Marshall Classic went great. Tampa was actually really nice weather. Second day, especially the first day, was a little humid. I don't like the humidity. That's one of the main reasons I don't live in the Midwest anymore is that it's just, it just gets brutal.

And Florida is clearly even more humid than that. But it's a nice time of year. We have beautiful weather on Tuesday. Monday was nice. I was down there. He was all over the place. I was a little bit nervous, as we all were. And I think you guys picked this up from your tweets.

that Zah was going to get snatched by an alligator. And Zah, there's a very clear, very clear directions from those on the staff at in this brook that said, whatever you do stay in your cart. They said, you know, there's like a, there's like a six footer that lives on this hole. There's like an eight foot gator that lives on the eighth hole. And there's rumors of like a 12 foot gator on the back nine. And so Zah went out looking for him And then the second that they saw one,

Zah just got out of the cart and started running. And they said, no, the only thing is like, Just make sure you stay in the cart and you'll be fine. They're a little bit scared of the carts. He got out and started running. I don't think it was that far fetch to think that a gator could have snatched Zah and he would just be gone. 100%.

What I learned from the videos that I watched from the Barso Classic is that, and the responses I got to my tweet is that we as a society for some reason no longer fear alligators or they're not a top fear when you're out within 50 feet of them because when I tweeted it and I was like I feel like we're way too close to these alligators and I'm afraid my guy Zah is going to get eaten.

Under it everyone was like oh well if you're more than 50 feet away you can just run away they're not that fast it's not a cheetah it's an alligator it's like where the fuck do you get off that you think that you shouldn't be scared of an alligator that's crazy town. I thought alligators could run like

15 miles an hour can't they run like 17 or 18 miles an hour? I have a 17 to 18 miles per hour. I think they fly. I mean, it might be short bursts, but they're fat. I have a video playing in my head of an alligator or a crocodile chasing down a gazelle. And I don't know if that's a real video that exists on the internet. I'm not saying chasing him down a, he's not in a field somewhere and chasing down a gazelle.

But I, uh, gazelle got a little too close to a watering hole and an alligator or crocodile scurried out there and, and bit him and killed. This is an outrageous stat. It says that alligators can reach speeds of up to 35 miles an hour on land. This is what I'm saying. All those people who responded 35.

What? All those fucking idiots who responded to my tweet being like, you don't have to be that scared of alligators. It's fine. I bet they didn't realize how fast they could run. And who is it a couple of years ago in the clip who was playing in a golf tournament, professional golfer, who taps an alligator on the ass and it jumps right into the water?

Is that Appleby? Who was that? I can't remember. I can't remember who it was. It doesn't really matter. I want to say that I've seen stories where gators have chased down horses. Jesus. So Riggs, the same thing.

It took me a while to get past the first line. Are you reading the second line of the speed of the alligator when you typed that in? Because that's almost just an impressive. An alligator can reach a top speed of 20 miles an hour in the water. That's faster than a bottle-nosed gulf. It's faster than a type of dolphin. That's ridiculous. You guys ever hear the alligator song by Rick Shorette?

No. Of course you didn't because Rick Shorette used to come to my elementary school and he used to do the rounds. You know, he'd go to Barnum, McVeigh, the whole district school. He had this one song called Alligator in the Elevator. Please tell me you're going to give us some of this. Yeah. I mean, it was one of those guys that he'd come with a little guitar and we'd all go in the auditorium and I'd go fucking nuts for Rick Shiret because it was like, It was fucking auditorium.

Throwing your bra up on the stage. Let's go. And he's like, there's an alligator in the elevator. Come on. I can't believe what I see. There's an alligator in the elevator. And it's making eyes at me. And then he'd be like, alligator, please push number two.

And we don't go like number fucking two. Rick Charette. And he'd go down the fucking line of all the numbers on the elevator. Wow. Yeah, man. He was a star just in that little. corner of the world. You guys know this from Barstle Radio.

The mud song. Mud, mud, mud. I love mud. I used to play that every time Dave would get into a fucking argument with someone. That's Rick Charette. No way. Yeah, dude. He had all these songs.

Yeah. Does they have a Spotify page? Probably. I wonder if this guy's even alive. How old do you guys think alligators are? Like how long do they're old? They're all. Alligators were here.

They're dinosaurs, right? So I'm going to say, I'm going to give you a fucking number. Wait, hold on, hold on. Is the question, how old can alligators be or how long have they been around? How long have they been around? I guess. What's your guess, Reiki? Of what?

How long have alligators been around? You want to hear a fucking stupid number that I'm going to throw at you? Because it could be a thousand years old or it could be like, it could be 500 million years because they're fucking dinosaurs. So I'm going to go somewhere in the middle, like a fucking idiot. and I'm going to say 300 million years ago which is probably 300 million years off

Trent I was deep in trying to find Rick Sharette's Spotify page and it exists Alligator in the elevator Oh no Is that not him? Or is this Rick Sharette Is that your guy?

I mean I think it is But does he have like a little fucking thing in the beginning It's alligator in the elevator My guess That's a great memory, the way. Thank you. It just hit me. We're saying the word alligator so much. I'm like, what? Yeah, he has one song. It's got

11,616 plays. And it's got, it's got people aren't going to be able to see this because they're listening, but it's got album art for, for the song. All right. That's going to go way up. You might get a download out of me up. It's got to be a catchy little rip. How old are

All right? I said 300 million years old. All right, I'll say, this might be one of the situations where Riggs has a number ready, and you might have just undercut it and ruined it by how old you said. You know when you do that to somebody? When they're like, give me a crazy number and then they overshoot it and you're like, well, you're an asshole because you guess too crazy. I mean,

I definitely did. I'm going to say 80 million years. Oh my God. Dude, am I crazy? I was going to say like 10,000 years old. I mean, that just can't be true. Alligators are 245 million years old. I was pretty fucking close. What are we even talking about? Really close.

They were literally around when dinosaurs were around. They survived like, Like, they survived when dinosaurs didn't. When, when, how old are dinosaurs? Dinosaurs were around like, I believe 280 to like 60 million years ago dinosaurs were around. Can I ask a stupid question? Sure. Then why aren't they dinosaurs?

Are they considered dinosaurs? That's people do refer to them as dinosaurs sometimes. Like that's a fucking dinosaur. Like when people say. They look like dinosaurs. They look like dinosaurs, dude. But when people say dinosaurs are extinct, then they clearly don't consider alligators dinosaurs.

Like if they said alligator or. Or they could be considering dinosaurs are, like you need to be extinct to be considered a dinosaur. So like, do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait a minute. They're just a type of dinosaurs. So let me ask you this.

Okay, so in that world, if alligators somehow went extinct, we would be calling them dinosaurs. I would be, yeah. So if we become extinct, we become dinosaurs? Is the act of being extinct make you a dinosaur? Is that where you guys are trying to tell me right now? No, but I think the type of species and what was around back then,

there may be the classification for considering all of those different things. They weren't all the exact same species, right? Considering them like dinosaurs is that they also were part of the crew that went extinct. I don't know. I'm guessing there's something about there. He is a dinosaur. Jeff Shackleford. Dinosaur.

Bob Herring. Although he is Shacklesaurus. I love that. I fucking love that. He is a fucking Shacklesaurus. I shouldn't have said Bob Herrick because Riggs had a phone call with him and he's all good. He is not. He might be the alligator of that group.

In the elevator? Yeah. That's well said, Jake. You know what I mean? He's not extinct. He's still around 245 million years later. You know what those dinosaurs would never rock our G4 shoes because they're just too cool and hip and comfortable for what those fellas, those fellas there, those dinosaurs that we just mentioned like to wear. I would say that the Gallivantra shoe by G4 is the greatest all-round golf shoe ever created.

Yeah, I think that would win in the court of all. It's got such a like a classic look to it while still being so comfortable. And somebody DM me earlier and said, okay, you finally convinced me, but should my first shoe be from the MG4 collection or from the Galavanter? And I think I leaned Galavancer, but then I remember, I recall the conversation that we were having when we were on our Vegas trip two weeks ago. And we were all pretty much wearing the MG4s of those like gel bottoms on them. Yep. And how we said that that's the most comfortable shoe, not just golf shoe, but just shoe. but just human shoe ever created.

Yeah, there's no... I was wearing those around like sneakers. Totally. I think if you're playing like 36 holes and you're walking, M.G. is a better option for you. If the gallivancers, I think, are like slightly a little bit heavier, but I like them

because they're sturdier or feel sturdier on your foot. And so I think that's a choice decision. But I would say if you're grinding out holes, playing 36 holes in a day, I would go with the MG shoes, but if I was just playing at 18, I'd go galavan. Yeah, there's no denying that the galavanter is a more difficult shoe to break in than the MG. But the fact that the galavanter is made out of the material it's made out of,

and it's really not that difficult to break into, right? Like, you could wear it, and you would get through your round perfectly fine, like, whatever. It's a brand new shoe, so it's going to feel a little bit, whatever. But the fact that it's made out of all leather, when you get another brand that's made out of all leather, and you don't have that, like, ripple-bobie. that the G4s have, the Galaventers have, you are walking, I mean, you have to put your feet into an ice bat, but you can get through a couple rounds with the Galvanters right out of the box,

which I've always said is, like, stunning to me. The reason why I rock the MGs on like long golf trips is because of what you guys said. It's just, it's basically a slipper. You don't even have to think about your feet. G4 must have a patent on that ripple bottom, right? The bubble? Because if every other shoe company knows about that and G4 doesn't have a patent on it, then they're just idiots, but they must because G4,

That ripple bottom, it's the most comfortable shoe that I own. By far. What's that company that used to, I mean, they used to be big. And is it like Schollman or something like that? Oh. Or they used to put in the gel inserts and everyone would fucking go and get them. They'd throw them in their little sneakers. My dad used to, like, do it for his work shoes.

But it's, G4 are like those, but they come with it. Essentially, G4 took that idea and was like, oh, yeah, like, these people put in these, like, inserts that go underneath your feet. And, like, they hit certain, like, points of your fucking, the, the, the, the bottom of your foot so all of a sudden like now your shoe feels better why don't we just do that and send it within the shoe so what a what a genius company well you can go to g4.com slash four and you get 10% off some people would ask them for a lot do you ever have any kind of discount do have any kind of help that you can give us on these shoes yes your first order of g4s at g4 will be 10% off if you go to g4.com slash four they truly have the best shoes in golf they're

comfortable, they're cool, they're sporty, they're stylish, they're just the best. So big thanks to G4.g4.com slash 4 will get you hooked up. They're also the official shoe sponsor of the Barstall Classic, which we talked about. Monday at Midpines, Old Donald Ross course is the next Barstool Classic. So pay attention for updates from that. I know people were following the live scoring. We had very difficult scoring on day one with one under par, qualified as a top four finisher.

And then the scoring was way lower on day two. The main reason for that is because the way that we're doing the handicaps, which is that I don't want to see plus handicaps have to give back shots. So if you're like a plus four, for example, instead of giving four shots back so you could make technically, you'd have to make a two net three on a part three. We just adjust the entire field off of the lowest handicaps. So if you are that plus four,

someone else is like an eight we go 50% handicap they end up getting a lot more shots but we had a plus six handicap in the field on Tuesday so the entire field was adjusted dramatically off of that number so people were just getting a lot more strokes scores were significantly lower I think 12 under ended up winning it and like seven under six under ended up being the qualifying number um so for anyone who was panicking I saw people on the line being like there's a how there's no way than an eight handicapped shot 70. No, that's not right. That guy was just getting like four shots because we had a psycho in the field who is a plus six. So scoring is going to pull off a little bit. So if you were an eight and the guy was a plus six, then you'd be really a 14 kind of thing for just simplicity of numbers. And then you do 50% of 14. So what we do is we do 50% of everyone's course handicap. Right. And then we adjust off a zero after that. So what would happen is the plus six, I think, is course handicapped.

was actually a plus five. So 50% of that, he would go like to, I think, a two because we round, we don't round the other way. So he'd end up being like a plus two. And then the eight would go to a four. So he'd be getting like six instead of getting, you know, like three or something that he would have gotten if he was just going off at zero, three or four. So it was a couple shots like per person and just dependent on each handicap actually.

There's always going to be an advantage based on our hand. our system if you're better at golf which there should be because it's a golf tournament so if you're better at golf you probably have an advantage what's this guy doing with a plus six handicap he plays for the mackenzie tour he plays like he plays like professional golf okay all right that'll do because i was going to say like totally what a waste of good talent and not like that almost makes you makes me think less of you that you're i mean Phil michelson i think came in at like a 5.2 handicap and i think i'm reading here that like golf got golf dot com once like did tiger woods's basic basic basic basic handicap basically did his handicap come on frankie fucking figure out how to speak and they said that is a guy

that is a guy in the throes of trying to get behind the greens they said they said he was like a plus 7.1 so i mean this guy that's walking around ennisbrook is just a plus six like you better be fucking making some coin off the golf off the game of golf i thought they even did it like when tiger was playing his best golf. They did his handicap. And I want to say he was up to somewhere around a plus 10, I want to say. Right. So this.

I kind of remember seeing. There's that story that they always tell about before he won the Masters in 97 by, you know, by 12 that he shot 59 at Isleworth from the backtees. And like, imagine what it would come up as if you posted a 59 on gin from the back teas at Iowa. Like you'd be like a plus, you'd be like a plus 15. That's, I get that he's not. not playing every round like that, but we all know that your handicap is based largely off a couple of your lowest rounds.

And so his handicap would be preposterous. Yeah, so this was written in 2020, and they had based it off of Woods' last 20 competitive rounds. They did the math. I think going into one of those matches with Phil Nicholson and Brady. So, yeah, it's pretty interesting to hear that a guy that's just joining the Parsley Classic is in between Tiger and Phil of 2020's handicap, which is nuts to me. what do you shoot what did he shoot it they end up

shooting 12 under as a team I think so it's like giving the field a million shots and then shot a million underpaw it's good golf man it's good golfing so when Kisner plays in the Pittsburgh one

with me it's tough because his rounds like in order if I ask an establishing handicap now, his rounds are skewed because the PGA tour round. So like his shooting even par in like a PGA tour tournament is not the same as him going to that same golf course based on its slope and rating and shooting. So I think I'm going to make him play off like a plus eight maybe.

Now does the gin system take that into account? I don't think so. No. Like the gym system will rate. Tournament play as opposed to playing in your backyard? It does, but I don't know that it, like, like that PGA tour tournament. I think it's tournament like if fucking we went and played a member gastro.

I don't know that it's tournament PGA tour tournament, but I don't know. No, because those, the ratings people that go to the courses, like when they go, they play the course and then they set it to, I guess, like a handicap delta a little bit. But then I know you put it home away tournament, but tournament only, I think just holds that score to a higher value. But I don't know like that. I'll say that now with the world handicapped system in the gin, it does have an amazing algorithm where it adjusts your handicap that day based on all scores posted that day. So like if it was clearly really windy that day, like all the scores will be higher and therefore it will change your number that it comes in as, which is an amazing feature.

That is true. Yeah. Yeah. I fall back. I don't know. Now I don't know. Now I know nothing. after you said that because that's true.

I'm thinking about it pre the daily update that they do. Do we talk about these guys that go around and rate these golf courses? Who are those guys? Yeah. I think they're the stuffiest people in the world. Honestly, I think I would start there. If you're trying to spot one in the street, I would look for the stuffiest individual that you could possibly find

with a golf rule book falling out of their back pocket, I would say, is what they look like. And do we think they base it off of their game or the general game of the general golfer? I think they have a sheet that does both. Okay. I think they're supposed to like fill it out like a fucking scan drawn of like, like numbers through difficulty of like how much how many hazards are on the course. How difficult would it be for like an 18 handicap to hit the fairways? How difficult for a scratch?

Like I think it's like I don't know that for a fact. But the way it's been described to me is I think they're supposed to cover a little bit of everything. Should do our own ratings. Like the Trent rating is the 18 handicap. Yeah. Our own slopes. You have to hit a lot of fucking golf courses. Yep.

You have to play every country, every course. You might have to put a pause on that for the time. We're almost, like, our jobs are getting to the point where, like, we basically are, like, on our way to basically playing every single golf course in the world. I think that. Riggs is, but then when I travel around. Riggs has hit that hard.

Riggs is on the fast track of success in that field. Riggs is about 45% done. I'm close. There's not a lot of courses I haven't seen. People actually now just hit me up and they're just like, hey, I know there's no way you haven't played this course yet, but if you haven't, and then they go from that.

A big shout out to the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. They release information that they've figured out the cause for Tiger Woods's accident, but they're not going to release it due to privacy concerns of Mr. Woods. Very much would like to give them credit for protecting the privacy of Mr. Woods. Unprecedented, I would say, is the word that I would use to describe what they decided to put out. And I'm trying to decide what to do here. This is weird, right? So.

An amazing about a back office calculation and worked on by the Tiger Woods team. to get that out. I understand. I cannot imagine what Riggs is doing. Riggs is right. Riggs is right in a way. But I'd also like to say an offshoot on this podcast. What the fuck is going on?

Trent, let me tell you this. Who is the number one name on our list of people to go fuck themselves when Tiger Woods won another major? Who was the number one, number one name on that list? Jupiter Police. The Jupiter Police,

because they did not take care of. Mr. Woods when I believe that they could have. How is this different than that? It's not different, I suppose. I don't know. Like, Frankie's giving me a look like he's as confused as the rest of us. I've never seen anything like this. And, like, I understand what we represent.

I understand our place in the Tiger fandom world. But I'm going to be laying in bed tonight looking up the ceiling saying, what is going on? Well, I think the reason why I'm so befuddled is because it's something that was like an accident in public where like other people's lives could have been in danger. It's not like this peeking through his phone and seeing like his personal life. Like this to me like when someone when someone drives into like a fucking store or something and like or gets into a bad accident, I know the guy's name even if he's fucking Joe Schmo down from the fucking gas station. You know what I mean? that's just public information because like it was a public fucking it was a public

crash was as public as a guess that could have really implemented a lot of other people like you don't know you know what I mean like luckily it was just no one got hurt except for tiger woods and his legs but like no one fucking died and thank God but like this is something that I think some people like deserve to know exactly how it happened because what if someone was driving down that road at that exact time two minutes earlier I'll say it reads a little bit like a team portnoy release whenever they're like protecting dave right tigers Tommy smokes absolutely wrote this press release let me just read this to you let me read part of the release weird we have reached out to tiger woods and his personnel there's some privacy

issues on releasing information on the investigation so we're going to ask them if they waive the privacy and then we will be able to do a full release on all the information regarding the accident i've never ever read something like that in regards to something that a celebrity did in regards to like a crash or something. Them adding that we we will wait until they decide for it to be a release and then we will release it. Them adding that into their statement makes me feel like it is something bad and that they can't release it but they're letting people know that like the tiger team is holding onto it and that's the only reason they're not releasing it. I got a theory. Okay. I got a theory that this that this sheriff, my theory is that this sheriff is Alex Villanueva guy,

who I believe is the same guy that was briefing us at the presser. And I remember when he was briefing in the presser that evening, he said that he, you know, he was the first one on site. And if it's not the same guy, whoever that same guy was, that was the first guy on site. He assessed the situation. He looked inside the vehicle. He saw that there was someone in there.

He immediately said that he immediately recognized. who it was based on who he was. And I think this Alex Villanueva guy is he's got like Make Sunday's Great Again merch. I think he's a huge fucking tiger guy through and through. And from the minute that he saw the situation, he was like, I got this. This will not be a problem. He's been in touch with Steinberg the whole time. He's been in touch with Robbie Mac the whole time.

And from the second that he walked on site and figured out who was in that car, he took it under his own onus to make sure that everything was taken care of that needed to be taken care of. And that's why we're getting this, because this is, this is preposter. He drove his road. He drove his car across the fucking road into like somebody's backyard. I, so I 100% believe that that is possible. But wouldn't it make more quote unquote sense to just lie about it then? To come out with the report and say there, you know, it's, it was just an accidental crash.

There was nothing found on the toxicology report that me, that there's any reason to suspect anything else. So we are now concluding this investigation. Instead, they are saying, this is literally a quote from what Villanueva said. A case, or I'm sorry, a cause has been determined, comma, the investigation has concluded. They're saying we know what happened, but we're just not going to tell you. Dude. One of his lines was literally like case closed, done, like we're going home or something like that. I picture him at the press conference just slamming a book shut and walking off stage in that moment.

Like, do you understand what I'm saying, though? Wouldn't it make more sense or be a cleaner release slash operation? Just be like, yeah, everything came out fine. Toxicology reports are clear. We're now done with this. We're not going to follow up any other leads as opposed to saying, we know what happened. We're not going to tell you. Like, that's going to make people have a conversation that we're having right now.

Look, I love it. I think this guy is, he is essentially acting as if a member of the Ford Play podcast had infiltrated the L.A. County Sheriff's Office and became the lead investigator of this crash. That is how he's been acting this whole time to the point where like right after it happened. And again, that same night of that presser, he essentially was like,

yeah, I was first on site. I determined that, you know, the way he was responding that it wasn't under the influence. And so we weren't, we didn't need to test them. It's just like,

weird. That is not how you handle these. Right. The car accident. The guy drove a car accident. the fucking road. And don't get me wrong, even if they lied and they, or decided to lie and said, yeah,

we didn't find anything, it's all good, whatever. There would still be people who would say, well, that's very much not true. But the number of people asking questions is certainly going to be higher with this press release. No doubt about it. It has to be. Because he's saying we have at all information, but you don't get it. So that's going to get everybody in Twitter.

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We were on Barstville Sportsbook, which is live in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois. And when Dustin Johnson hit, who obviously won the tournament by a million, on 13, hit a T-shot that we all had them missing the fairway on 13. and it just looked good, but it cut a little bit too much. It landed like a foot into the rough, and we just erupted. We get all that next weekend, fellas, and I cannot wait. That is going to be so exciting.

And also the greens and regulation bet is one of the more thrilling things I've ever been a part of because they really don't show it sometimes. And there was one instance in which Tiger Woods was on, like, that apron. And we didn't really. Was that 10, right? 11. We just didn't know if that counts as a GIR. are and like we were going crazy when he pulled out his putter because we're like there's no

chance he would not be chipping this right now he never puts off that stuff if he has the chance and dave was there and dave was he he couldn't believe what was going on i can't wait i remember the best day call your standard like customer success rep or something like that or didn't find an answer i thought riggs made the best point during that whole thing is that he didn't mark his ball didn't throw mark on it that's what it was it wasn't the putter it was he didn't mark his ball. Yep. He absolutely, if it was on the green, he would have marked his ball.

Yeah, he didn't mark his ball. And technically, if you're not on the green, you can't mark your ball. So we were, we were, Dave was screaming that at our guy from Penn and ultimately got it reversed because they said that it hit the green. We said it was going to miss the green. Um, and he ended up missing the green. We were, we were watching Masters.com to watch them update how many guys had hit greens and regulation on that, specifically to that day.

Because they don't do it player by player and it's not really that. It's not like that. But we were just waiting. waiting. Long story short, I cannot wait to be there next week. I am very, very excited to do that again. Masters is going to be awesome. So we'll be all around next week talking about the Masters. This show, we're going to do a little bit of from the gallery

before we get on with Nate or play at barstolesports.com. Put from the gallery in the subject line and make it short or I will not read it. Dennis says, would you rather get Tiger Woods on the show on the podcast for 30 minutes or have Roy McElroyd play the four-man scramble? Wow, that's a tricky one.

I thought that was a good one. It was going to be Tiger. And now I'm... Clash of the Titans. I thought that was a good one because Tiger is obviously the answer, if it's anything comparable, but a four-man scramble video is so awesome for us. Like, that makes you one of our guys.

That's an hour and a half of content. That is legitimately putting our games up against one of the best of this generation. We're going to be chirpy. going to be laughing. We're going to be like buddies with Roy McRoy. It's going to be great. Tiger coming on the show for 30 minutes is the white whale. He's Tiger fucking Woods. But like, he might give you a little bit more one word answers by the time we get comfortable. Maybe there's only 10 or 15 minutes left. Then you had like 15 minutes with Tiger. That was sweet. But like, it's not the same as a as a four, a full four man scramble. It's a tough question. Who wrote that

email? It's it's Tiger Woods for me. Dennis. Dennis submitted that. Fuck you, Dennis. that's a tough question that's a really hard one and as crazy as it sounds and I know I'm the Rory guy on this show and you guys are going to be like oh you like Rory more than you like the Americans I think I'm picking the four man's cramble with Rory because of all the reasons that Riggs just laid out

like honestly I mean we would take 25th think of Tiger's face in one of these Zoom boxes and he's just there for a half hour talking to us it's Tiger we would take 25 seconds with Tiger like if that's what they're going to give us

that's what we'll take. But I would much prefer to have, if you're going to have Tiger Woods, and I don't mean to, you know, beggars can't be choosers. But you prefer to have them on for an hour or more and not in a Zoom box. You'd have them in a setting like this. So it's, if those are the things that I think you've definitely got to take. We're half an hour with Tiger. I think Riggs is on to something where you're not really getting into kind of what you want

to get into until the 20 minute mark, honestly. Yeah, I agree with that. I think like it usually takes us like so people know a little behind the scenes. Like we generally have were presented with like, oh, you can have this person on for 15 minutes. Like we usually push back and say it's got to be at least 30 to an hour and we prefer closer to like we need you for about an hour because that's how we get comfortable. That's when you start to jive with us. You start to understand our jokes that we're not normal media. Now we're really getting real raw shit that other people don't get.

So I think you're right, Trent. Like if we're going to finally get Tiger, I don't want it to be like a really quick one-off. Like we don't consider either of the stuff that we've ever done with Tiger really getting Tiger. We're going to get them like sit down for an hour and fucking do it. So I might even lean Rory as well. It's Tiger Woods for me just because that's the goal. That's it.

That is what it is. At the end of the day, when we're all in that ground six feet under, like we did a golf podcast and we got to, interview the best that ever did it and he is our fucking lord and savior and that's what we sat down with him we asked some questions and he answered them that's it we sit on this fucking zoom we talk about our fucking smack on our grunnels against each other i mean wouldn't you like the pinnacle of this is talking to tiger wood not not playing golf with maybe a top three or four guy of his

generation what you know what i mean at some level he's not tiger wood so it's the fucking best of the best. You don't make a bad point. You really don't. It is. It is what it is. You don't, but how good would the Roy video be? It would be fucking phenomenal. I mean, it's, it's, it's one's better than the, good they would be. Right. But like, like, they're both absolutely incredible lifetime dreams in a sense, but Tiger Woods, but to Frankie's point, it's like why we wake up every day. It's why I play golf. So you tell me right now. I want you guys to know that I'm not like, oh, shut up. Listen to me. Listen to me right now. Listen to me right now. You're telling me if we...

I'm shutting up because I want to. You're listening to me, little boy. All right? Go on me. You're telling me if we showed up to Taylor Made this year. And we got to the fucking place and they said, all right, on this T box, Rory McRoy is waiting here. You guys are going to play a four-minute scramble. But in that room in that clubhouse, Tiger Woods is sitting on a chair and you guys have a half an hour to go hang out with him and talk to him about fucking golf in his life.

which one you're going you're telling me you're walking on that tea box or rory mackroy you're leaving tiger inside the clubhouse waiting in a fucking chair you're letting tiger woods wait in that fucking room yeah answer that i'm picking tiger woods thank you i mean come on i'm picking tiger woods it's not in the same because i'm all in that scenario i'm also picturing us picking rory and someone walking into that room and saying to tiger hey they're going to go play with rory so they're actually not going to do the interview and that breaks my heart a little and that breaks my heart a little and seems like an insane thing to do. The only thing that's funny about the scenario is we just got done talking about how it's insane that Tiger's team have somehow like coded and and and have hidden exactly what's happened in a massive car crash that was one of the biggest fucking stories in the world. So like we may not get anything out of Tiger Woods. And right now is the perfect example of that.

So like you also have to take that to account. Like is every single question going to be basically the same thing he answers before each fucking golf tournament. Right. And we would never draw a hard line like this, but don't you agree that you got to have an hour with Tiger? Dude, yeah, an hour. But also we'd have to be like, hey, man,

we're going to talk about like some shit. Like, as Tiger Woods fans, we want to know exactly what he's thinking on certain situations. And if they say that's all out of, if they say that's completely no touching, you guys can't do that. I think then you have a conversation. I think if it's a fucking strip your pants,

and we're going to hold your fucking teat and we're going to tell you what kind of questions that we're going to tell you what kind of questions to ask and Tiger's going to answer him this way then you're like well fuck that we're just going to go with Rory unhinged and we're going to play fucking six hours and we're going to drink beers with them and we're going to become best friends yeah because the questions we're going to ask tiger aren't going to be so when you think you're going to play next right like that's not the type of interview anybody wants to hear those are the type of interviews he does all the time you got to ask him like bro you see that HBO fucking documentary what you think about that shit right huh right they fucking painted you and you and you're dead with a horrible fucking relationship. Tell me how you feel. Like where people are like, holy shit, Tiger Woods is answering the questions we've always wanted him to answer. How does he actually feel about his dad? How does he actually feel about what went down? Does he think he's the best golfer of all time? Was it all worth it?

Was it all worth it? Being a fucking being this like this child prodigy, a robot constructed by his father to hit golf balls. Was it worth it knowing now everything you gave up in life? Like, or are we in, like, so, uh, do you like the new, do you like the new Sim too? Or do, um, you know, would you take the risk of doing the interview? Knowing that you don't know which outcome you're going to get, I would still take the interview with Tiger rather than playing around a golf and roll. Okay. I have two answers to that.

Personally and, um, selfishly, yes, I would like that for myself because I want to be in the same room as Tiger Woods. For our brand and our listeners and the people that would fucking go crazy to hear us. like actually get into a room of tiger and ask meaningful all-time questions that we can rest our careers on, that is something that I'd be like, I don't want to do it unless it's going to be that. You know what I mean? It's almost like, it's almost like Riggs saying he doesn't want to play Augusta unless he's with his, like, his brother, like giving it up. Like, all right, if it's not going to be the ultimate thing, I don't even want to experience it. I refuse to sit in that room and ask the same questions that the golf team.

TV girl does with him every single week where they sit down. That lovely lady with the accent. Yes. She's awesome, by the way. We see her at every fucking tournament. She is one of the nicest people. Genuinely, one of the only people that make me smile and I don't even know her. She's very nice.

Everything. But her questions are just like, you know, that's just what Tiger answers. She's the only one that he does press with before these fucking rounds. And if it's just going to be another one of those things, I'm not doing it. Now that I think about it. I agree with that. But I think that is a part of that is why I was originally leaning Rory. It's just because I think Rory is so candid and so genuine that something that was said earlier is like we know both of them are going to be awesome.

I don't know that that's true. I don't know that 30 minutes with Tiger on the podcast is guaranteed to be awesome content. I think there's a chance it could come out and be like, that's really cool that those guys were talking to Tiger, but like he was just kind of Tiger. whereas I'm very confident that if we had Rory for a full 18-hole scramble, that it would be fucking awesome. Right. We win him over by the second hole and then we're rolling. And now it's an all-time video.

Yeah, interviewing Tiger, it doesn't matter who we are. It's a risk every single time. You just don't know what's going to happen. And for the most part, nothing is going to happen. Nothing. Dude, there's other golf podcasts in our world that have interviewed Tiger Woods for like 10 minutes and they've just been blah interviews. Right.

Like it just doesn't even, nothing even happened from it. Like I actually just forgot about it until just now. And that's probably, that would be the crowning achievement of our career and what we're thinking. But it would have to be no holds barred. And I hate to even say this, but that interview might be the reason why we never interviewed Tiger Woods. You know? I mean that reason? That reason why we know.

Yeah. That reason. Those stipulations that we would have going into that interview, we, like you said, Frankie, we just got done talking. talking about how airtight his operation is. I would be very surprised and I feel stupid and probably shouldn't even be saying it, but there's probably no way they would ever let us do that, ever. Right. I agree with that.

But then, like, see, I'm fucking flip-flopping more than a fucking pancake maker at eye hop like I always do. But listen to this now. Imagine Tiger just answering any fucking question. This is how my brain works. Like, I'm trying to picture sitting in front of Tiger Woods and just asking him about a fucking pitching wedge. I don't know.

I'm just talking on our fucking airwaves. but then it's not fucking worth it man then you're just one of the debug must be going nuts you're trying to create this video you're literally just going back yeah no he gotta talk it out though man

you gotta talk it out this is it this is it this is how we go right but we've talked these points I don't know that we have man he's right in that anything Tiger Woods says we know it better than anybody we'll listen to it and we'll find it fascinating so you could do a pretty

cook or cutter interview with Tiger and people would still be like we'd get in at least one or two questions that would be different than what people have heard before. And people are like, that part is very interesting. But it's not as interesting as the interview we would love to do. Well, let's say this. Like what we got from Tiger when we saw him at Pebble Beach,

we chat with him for 90 seconds was nothing. Like, if you look at the words that were actually exchanged between parties, people broke that video down and still do for ages because it was us interacting with Tiger Woods. And what was actually said didn't fucking matter. And like, if Tiger had that same exact conversation with Mike Torrico, Nobody would have cared in the world. We had it and it got millions of views all across social media.

Right. So there's always going to be an element of that to any interaction or interview that we have with Tiger. If we had them on for 30 minutes and it was as cookie cutter of an interview as he's ever done, we would get a million tweets and people would be like, you guys crushed it, boys. I can't believe I got to listen to you guys talk to Tiger. So that would be cool. And that's probably more valuable and cooler for us to say as a podcast that we did it, that we were there, that our career achievement, that we got there forever.

than anything we could do with, like you said, maybe like a top two or three or four player of this generation who's sputtering right now, whatever. But so, yeah, I don't know. It's tough. It's impossible to say no to Tiger. The way that you described it earlier, Frankie, I think is best of like, okay, Taylor Made, both these guys are Taylor Made athletes.

We're Taylor Made athletes. You guys have the choice. Behind Door One is Tiger Woods sitting in a fucking room for 30 minutes, ready to do a podcast. And behind door two is Rory, ready to play four-man's scramble. What are you doing? We're all sprinting to the Tiger Woods. There's also a 99% chance that Frankie, chance that Frankie asks Tiger about the universe.

And that's not a question that's like scandalous or like, oh, what's the answer going to be? But that answer that he gives is going to go crazy. People are going to go nuts for that. So that would be an interesting part of the- This is like a true crime podcast where we started out with a question and we've really, you know, gone back and forth on this thing. And at the end of it, I know the answer now. It's just Tiger Woods. You got to interview it.

Yeah, I think it's Tiger Woods. I've said a million different things about this fucking topic. and I'm finishing with it's just Tiger Woods. Macanudo is the best-selling handmade cigar in the United States of America. God damn right. We had a little meeting with the McA-Noodo team last week, and I am so deep in the McA-Nuto cigar game. A little meeting?

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entry. That's macanudo.com slash bar stool. You know one of the things that really stood out to me and I used this tip, I brought my macanudos to my buddy's house and it was the perfect time to just sit back and relax. They just got a new porch, like on the back on the back porch. And we We were sitting back there. It's a great spot for the. Yeah, it was like the backyard and they just got a new outdoor set, where you could sit down on a lounge chair or by the table, and we were just smoking cigars.

And I was teaching them like, you know, everyone always goes crazy for these, for these cutters. And there's this casing, the wrapping. Essentially, all you have to do is you can peel it with your finger. You just need to expose that cigar on the, on the smoking side. And that thing's ready to smoke, baby. You know what blew my mind in that meeting about cutting cigars? people always want to hold them just like normally you're holding a cigar and you want to cut it. If you put the cutter on a table and you put the smoking part inside the cutter and you just do it that way,

that's all whatever space is between the cigar, the cutter and the table is how much cigar you need to take off. I feel like people are taking off huge chunks. You don't have to do that. No, that's a very amateur way and that's a big thing that McAnew is going to be doing with me specifically because I asked them, listen, all right, we just did like an hour class on this on the cigar and we loved it. We love the taste of these things. We love the smell of them. We love everything about macanudo cigars.

But what I really want is to look cool and awesome with this cigar. Like, you know, you see Anhele Jimenez. That guy, you know, he's smoking a Stogi, and he's just the coolest relaxed guy in the world. Yep. Right? He's enjoying it, which you should. It's a macanuda cigar. Now, what I want to do is I want to walk down that golf course and I want to look like I know what the hell I'm doing, you know?

It's a big part of it. And they, and, you know, they gave us a little bit of it. lesson. So the next time you guys see me out there, I will be professionally enjoying a macanudo cigar professionally. It's good stuff. It really is the best. And again, people were just loving them at the Barstool Classic, which is a huge addition. So big thanks to McEnuto. Todd says, if the players championship is declared a major, this is of course back a couple weeks ago and everybody's going crazy about it. Would it be retroactive? So if so, like the leaders in major victories, would it change? And essentially a two-parter, like, do we think there's any validity to this major championship, BS about the players' championship? And if so, would people retroactively be given major championships for winning the players? I think the retroactive part is a big factor standing in the way of them wanting to ever do it.

I don't think they'll ever do it. I don't think I personally don't think they should do it. I think the four are just fine. I don't see any reason to rope the players' championship in there. It's a prestigious event. If you know anything about golf, you know that it's one of the toughest fields every single year, probably the toughest field. And if you win that goddamn tournament, you're a fucking stud. I don't think we need to go through the process of turning it into a major.

And it would be a full on mess when deciding whether or not to retroactively give these guys major. I can't. That word, I just saw it coming down the pipe and I knew. I knew I was going to trip all over it. But I don't even know what we're talking about. There's just no way that this could be a major. No. And you're going to give majors back.

Like now Ricky Fowler's a major winner. This is just the stupidest point I've ever heard. Ricky Shesh out there. You can't. But like, you just can't be given majors out to old winners who didn't go down the stretch knowing that this is a major. It's a tournament. It's an incredible field.

It's an incredible tournament. It's just in no way a major. And it does take away the moment from those guys. Like you're saying, Ricky Fowler is a perfect example. Instead of him winning a major somewhere and having it be the most triumphant payoff that he's ever had in his career, instead one day he gets a Twitter notification or an email that says, hey man, you're a major champ. Like that's not, that's not how that can work. That cannot be how it is. At this point, you may take it.

He would probably take it. I'm now picturing him holding up. Like he wins the U.S. Open in two or three years. He's just holding up like a number two for a second major. It just tracks me up. You can't retroactively give it out, but I think there's nothing wrong with going forward than giving it. giving new people a major for the players. Right.

But you're in favor of five, like this would be the fifth year? Yeah, I mean, games fucking evolved, dude. I mean, the Rangers won three Stanley Cups when there was eight teams in the NHL. Like, is that the same level of difficulty as the New York Islanders winning? Four Stanley Cups with fucking 30 teams in the NHL? Now, this makes a lot. Tell me. Tell me where the point, whatever point you just made their ties to the upbunk argument.

Well, because, like, because if you're going to say, like, how can you have five majors now? And if you're alluding to the fact that guys before you only had four, I can say that like leagues and games change all the time. And guys who played in old time sports had different competition. They had different amounts of championships. They had different ways and routes to that championship as the new teams did. I mean, back in the day, in the NHL, all you had to do was win the standings of the regular season and you were Stanley Cup champion.

So how is that? I think you're more comparison to like Sam Sneed or something like that when the fields were smaller. Okay, sure. Islanders comment, but it's the same thing. You're just, you're just, you're just, you just don't like it because I brought the little different. I'm thinking of like the end game being different. The end game is different. The final goal being different.

The final goal is different. It takes a lot longer and you have to go through different playoff formats and championships just to get to the same way. Like, I don't understand how it's different. There was a time when there were zero golf majors. For a long time in Earth's history, there were none. So the four certainly doesn't have to be the. end all be all. Right.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. I just don't think the players championship isn't it because it's become the players championship. Like it's just the players champion. That's fine.

If there was some new diabolical thing that we all immediately were like this has to be elevated to some level or not even immediately, but like pretty quickly. But the players is just another four days of stroke play at a golf course. that's been around for 23 years. Like, it's just the players. It's not a major. It's the players. It is true.

It does have a different place because whenever someone says, oh, Ricky Fowler hasn't won a major, someone around you will say, well, he won the players. Or when someone says Rory hasn't won a major in seven years, they'll be like, well, he won the players recently. So it does have a different connotation or a different, you know, level of respect that it receives. So I think you might that's probably the best argument against it becoming a major. Yeah, that's kind of what I think. And that's, you know, we've been taught, we had the. debate about should match play become the next major.

And we have the discussion a lot about how the PGA championship is constantly looking for its identity and its way to really stand out. It was Glory's last shot for a while. Then they moved the dates around, clearly trying to get a little bit more up there in terms of the gravitas of major championships. Gravitas. Yeah, gravitas. You can't just add a tournament that's just been the tournament that it is forever and just be

like, oh, now it's a major. That ain't how it works. That's never how it's going to work. People aren't going to accept it. They're going to bitch about it. It would have to be something significantly kind of unique or different, right? Like the British Open is the only fucking tournament we watch every year pretty much. That's on Lynx, a Lynx golf course, like an old school, links golf course.

It's cool how different it is. Augusta is the only one that's at the same fucking golf course and we love it. The U.S. opens the one that murders people and we love it. We root for carnage and the PGA we just talked about where it's always kind of fought for its identity. You can't then just bring one. one in that's like, oh yeah, this is now a major that's pretty similar to a couple other ones. It's kind of like a master's actually, where it's just the same course every year, but it's a major. So I don't think it'll ever get there.

If they did and they retroactively handed out majors, it would be a complete chitcher. So you are right. So you're saying, and I think I agree with you that a tournament that pops up out of quote unquote nowhere and is a match play event that is getting a ton of hype around it and they are considering turning it into a major has a better chance than the players or any other or the PJ Championship transitioning to a match play major? Absolutely. Yeah.

I think you're right. I'm thinking of tournaments getting relegated. The PGA Championship gets relegated to a non-major and then you bump up the player. If you are the PGA Championship and that tournament comes around and it's a match play event and they turn it into a major, the PGA Championship just has to throw up its hands and be like, you guys are just fucking us here. Yeah. But it is funny, right? because we all look at the PGA and we get it,

that it doesn't have, and then I think the identity is the right word, it doesn't have what the other three have yet. Like, think about when Tiger and Brooks Capco were going at it at Belariv, like how awesome that was. Like that clip of Tiger at Valhalla in the playoff chasing his ball into the whole,

like the PGA is just as much as we, like, it just isn't the players championship. The players championship is just not on that level. As much as everyone likes, to shit a little bit on the PJ and it's trying to find its place. Like it is major, major stuff. And it always has been in our lives and it's delivered phenomenal moments because

it's so much more important. And the players just isn't just isn't right there yet. Agreed. Austin says, City limits. Would you rather never get sunburn on the course so you'd never have to apply sunscreen ever again? or never have to look more than a few minutes for your ball.

You always find it yours and your playing partners right away. Son's a problem for me. Find the ball. I would love to find the ball. That's two guys with opposite answers. Go ahead, Lurch. I just did. I would, I hate looking for balls.

If I knew when I hit in the weeds of exactly where it was every time or like when you're playing with the leaves are down with foliage in the whole business and you just can't find it, I would love to know we're. That would be my one item. Just tired of looking for a zone at home, you know what I'm saying? There is, what? Oh, I like that. Shit.

There are moments where a ball that you think is in the fairway or just off into the rough will disappear on you. And you think that just some magical creature wandered out there and stole the ball. And never having that happen to me again might be worth like picking that side of it, you know? But man, sunburn is physical, you know, that goes home with you. Oh, does it ever, man. So, I mean, the feeling of losing a golf ball is done by the next hole. I really could care less at that point. I'm mad.

I'm mad in the moment for sure. And I'm like, it was right here, man. Like, we all saw it. Yep. Everyone here saw that ball drop right here. It's somewhere. I didn't lose it, right? We watched it drop right here.

That's a frustrating feeling. But the idea of, like, sitting at home after that 10 o'clock at night. showering, shower and sleeping. That is, those are tough times. I'm taking the sunscreen. Yeah, but you get to cover yourself an alo, which is kind of fun. Yeah, it's, it is. Take the aloe.

It is, but like, if you're doing that, you are living in a world where you're like, I'm burnt as fuck today. And that's no good. I'm going to take finding your ball. I just think it's so annoying looking for golf balls and just wasting time walking around looking for shit. It would just be so nice to find them immediately. It would save time.

It would save frustration. It would save annoyance. You wouldn't have to drive over all the time and then go help somebody else look. And then it just would save a bunch of time. I don't hate applying sunscreen. I just throw it on once or twice and it's fine. It's not a big of a deal. So I would just take finding a golf ball.

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The trifecta. Walked into my, walked into my house, my abode. Your parents' house, yeah, we know. Yeah. And there was a huge box waiting for me. This was right when we got back from Vegas. You know, I was tired. I was lonely.

I was, I was, you know, just coming back from those, like, long trips. And it's just a lot of travel. You just feel like you're the only person in the universe that's that tired and that hungry. And that just, like, everyone that talks to you, like, just whatever, the lurch thing. Whatever. And. Cut Frankie off if he just fits. What?

Well, it's like, it's like Listerine's falling out of his memory. Whatever. Listerine. I don't know. But anyway, trifecta. Yeah. I got greeted from this big orange box. And I'm like, what the hell is this?

It was huge. And I had forgotten that before my trip, I had ordered trifecta meals. And these things, they were, they were pre-packaged, pre-frozen with the, you know, the way that we're able to freeze food in the year 20th. 21's on and ship it and ship it. It's crazy. I mean, you're talking shrimp, steak, fucking burgers, chicken, uh, barbecue stuff. It was all these meals were all pre-packaged and labeled and you can and you knew the nutrition and it's super healthy. And now I just have these meals that when I go home, I cranked one open. I had the barbecue chicken and the bar and the broccoli and the rice. I mean, I was just eating a really good meal. All I had to do is microwave it. It was the easiest

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which I'm looking at it right now, nice orange button, and you get 40% off with code four. Justin asks, Is it okay to get your name embroidered on your golf bag no matter your skill level? Frankie, do you want to take it away? You repeat the question? I would not. I can't do it.

But I think there might be someone on this podcast that has his name on a golf bag. Is that right? I do. I have Commissioner Riggs on my golf bag. Yeah. I don't think you got to be a certain level. And you are good. You are good.

So I think you follow that. No, I'm not definitely not good. wouldn't say. I think it's, I think it's narcissistic to put your name on a golf bag unless you getting paid to do it, which you could argue that you're getting paid to do it, Riggs. Yeah, I was going to say that I actually don't think it's a very cool move. But when G4 sent it to me who sponsors the classic, I was like, oh yeah, I'm definitely going to have that. But I do think it's a little bit of a weird move, which is a weird take because we generally don't like to judge or care what people do around golf. But I do think having your name embroidered in your bag is a little weird. And I feel

a little bizarre about it sometimes. Yeah, I'm not, I sometimes feel awkward about how nice our clubs are. I talked about that when we were getting all these deals and stuff. Like I'm, I apologize sometimes on the first tee to my buddies and stuff. I'm like, I know what's happening here. We all know what's happening here. I got handed these clubs, you know, I mean, we're promoting the shit out of them. There's a great deal.

We love Taylor Made. They love us. But at the end of the day, man, you know, you should have these. I mean, I don't, like my buddy like Kyle and Andrews. They're like, yeah, we're hitting these rocks, these, these slabs of concrete. And you're out here flushing irons with the fucking brand new, you know, 770. So yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't think that I should have my name on a bag.

I think I need to learn how to hit a fucking wedge shot is what I think I need to do. Lurch. Yeah, I think if you're getting paid to play, you can do it. If you're not, you just can't put your name on your bag at all. Because, I mean, I just think when I walk down a range and you see like, a name on somebody to be like who's this fucking guy especially if you see him like shank a ball or did he do that as a joke or like what is

this is stupid you should just be regular but I don't know if that's right I like don't feel confident that my takes right like if you want to do anything your bag why the hell should I like color red like who cares? You don't like that Frank that's just like no that's just like

I don't know it's an easy way to say that everyone can just have fun we all just like play paddy cake i mean we're allowed to have opinions i think it's a fucking stupid right i know i just don't like trust my opinion like i just like i don't even like i in this point like i say that you shouldn't have a name and i'm definitely judge those people but like all right so there it is yeah i think if you put your name on your bag you are now open to criticism you're saying this is lurches bag and and the reason why i want you to know is because i'm a fucking all-time golfer or also like why like this is his bag that's like what what's the other reason for putting a name on there i don't

understand right like you're not going to lose that bag you're not losing that bag if found please call i know you're not losing that bag i actually would laugh if someone if someone put if found like it's a dog collar if found call this number and let me know i would respect that that'd be funny that's like oh i toss it in the fucking woods yeah you're laughing at you're laughing at you're laughing in the face of how absurd it is to have your name what about what about those like a polos and like belts that have people's initials. It's more understated. However, I'm just being okay with what I do.

And like I have one New York Rangers belt and my mom knit for me that has my initials on it. But like now I'm just okay with that. So what is that you just doing that in case you lose it so people can return it to you? Wow, I didn't know Lurch had that. Is that why you brought that up, Wrig? No, I just genuinely was, I figured somebody on this show, by the way, would have to have. Yeah, my mom knit me a ranger's belt. My mom didn't make a Rangers belt probably.

But also that has a story behind it. That's cool. Like, that's really cool. Yeah, and I love it. But I'm definitely just defending myself here. Like,

just like Mary one sided with my takes. It's just what I do is perfect and then everything else is stupid. I think that's right. I think we can actually boil every one of our takes down to that, no matter what it's about. It's like, what I do is perfect. Anything else that's opposite of that is lame. I think that's how the world works. Yeah.

Generally, that's how everyone thinks about the world. People judging other people, man. And, like, Riggs made a good point at the top. We are the podcast known for not judging people. Like, if you want to wear a hoodie on the golf course, you can do it. The only difference between something like that and something like this is this falls in like a snootier category. Yeah, we judge the assholes. Right.

That's what it is. I think everyone really does. Definitely. We've made the point where if they roll back golf balls and they introduce a pro-level golf ball. Like that guy that shows up to the first tee being like, oh, you guys are using the old, the old ProV ones. I'm going to use the, I'm going to use the rolled back one because I hit it too far. We'd be like, fuck this guy.

But then Lurch is out here being like, you know what? It's your, it's the way you do things. I do things that with a different way. No. No, I got to fucking. I'll take that back, Frankie. I guess my point in me, like in my brain without sharing this, my point was that if someone like dressed it up, put their name on it, like, and it was doing it in a fun way, I think

that's okay but I still I'm still judging someone negatively if I see like X Y Z on the name of their bag like I just think like you're not good enough to have so um anyways seems like you're in a pickle right there with your brain I've been there I am but I'm flip-popping a little bit I've been there you're judging me for flip-popping I've been there all your whole life is flip-op I've been there you compared yourself to an I-Hap I-Hop chef recently yeah I've been there on this very show makes one of no one a mere 20 minutes ago I do whenever if I ever see a name on someone's bag,

it does make me want to stand there, wait until they come back and be like, what's this? What's going on? Or you like say, oh, where'd you play? Right?

Like a college or something? Yeah. You know, the only time that it really becomes, like, unfortunate for the person that's getting it is if a family member or something gets it for you for Christmas,

right? Like, we've all talked during the, during the holiday season, you get some pretty bad golf gifts. Yeah. And some of those are like these personalized, you know, iron, like head covers or your grandma gets you like iron covers or something. You're just like, yikes.

Like, I just don't know. So if someone gets you like a really expensive bag, right? Like they buy you a fucking $300 golf bag or something and they throw your name on there. It's really hard to be like, oh, I'm just not going to use this one. It's like Dwight with the jersey that he gives to Michael. Right. Exactly. It's like, oh, I love this jersey.

And you'd be like, I love this golf bag. You're looking at it and you're excited about all the pockets. And then it says Frankie Borelli on it And you're like, oh man. Yeah, yeah. Just from Dwight, the jersey just says from Dwight. That's a big thing with jerseys too, right? Like a parent may get you a New Islander's jersey and it's got Borelli on the background on the back.

They mean well. They do. And they don't understand that like this new culture is like, oh, you put your name on the back. What do you play for the team? How much money? How many goals have you scored this year? And you get you get fucking ridiculed online. But, you know, you just can't do that nowadays.

You can't walk around with your fucking name on things. my boy jr who got um his wife got him a blues jersey and uh asked the other boys if it'd be cool if he she put his last name on it and they were like oh yeah that'd be super cool now he has to wear it every game and he just says his last yeah or sometimes like you'll see a fucking guy get a get one where it's just like um her husband or something and she has like his wife on the back oh yeah mr and misses oh at that point i think the guy's into it because at some point you put you put your fucking foot down. I am not wearing a

Mr. fucking Islander's jersey. I refuse. All right. We're going to lock this up. We've got Nate Brigazzi coming on the show who is, like we said, maybe the funniest person in the world right now.

I think he's naturally the funniest person on the planet. Naturally funny. He makes it look very easy. Genuine. Yeah. He just, the things that he says are, are very funny.

I know obviously if we're watching any of his stand-up specials, he's clearly trying to be funny. But even when we had him on the show the last time, everything he said was hilarious. And that was just him talking us about golf. Yeah, and he's so clean, too. Yeah, which you don't realize until someone tells you, I don't think.

I remember when I watched the Tennessee kid, and I think I told probably Fidelberg, who told me about it. And I came back next to me, I'm like, that's one of the funniest specials I've ever seen. And he said, do you realize that it's clean? And I said, no. because he doesn't.

He doesn't swear or anything. But you don't realize it because he's so funny. Man, I got to be more like Napar Gatsy. We all do. Wow, I didn't even realize that. Is that right? Yeah, he's clean. Shit, I feel like a real asshole.

I don't mean to be too personal here, but I am getting the Riggs bowel movement issue here, and I just, I literally have to go. Nice. I think we're about to throw. All of a sudden become an emergency. I know. I know we're close to the end.

For whatever reason, I think I have 10 seconds left. Lurch you lose. Brian. Yeah, no, we're out of here. All right, man. I love you and hit a heart. I'll see you. Grab a hold something. Show that turd who's boss. We'll get through this together.

We'll get through this together. Don't blow out your o-rings. So anyways, next up, enjoy this interview with one of the funniest people in the world. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're joined by an extremely important guest, a very impressive guest. We try to make people laugh on this show. and sometimes we think we're good at it. But we have somebody who's genuinely a comedian and one of the funniest people in the world.

He's got a new Netflix special out. I believe it was March 18th that it came out. The greatest average American, one of the funniest things that there is. So if you have a list, I go check it out. But huge golfer as well. Nate, Marguazzi. Welcome to the show.

Second time on the show. Is that right? Second time. I know. I want to be, you know, free. How much do you all make them on? Did I come on? Every day. I'm a huge fan. As I said last time, enormous fan of you guys. So thanks for having.

Well, you're one of those, you're one of the guys that like, so I text you as, hey, you want to do show? You responded right away. Like, yeah, I'm in tonight. And I'm, I'm nervous to text you. I'm like, why would you want to come on our show and do we just like talk, slap dick comedy about golf and who knows what we're saying? So I'm like, if you want to come on all the time, we'll have you all of that. I almost, I think I answered you quick. Maybe I'm bigger than I think I am and I should have not responded. So maybe I'm learning something right here. I was too quick.

I was like, dude, I was about to text anyway. See if you want to Facebook. Oh, mate. So, so new simulator. That was what really got me, you know, thinking about getting you on here and talking. How, how exciting is it to have a new simulator and how? It is. I have really, yeah.

It's, so I have a trackman simulator. And in the house, we, it's been awesome. I mean, I've, I've had it. We just, it just got done. I was gone. And so I came home, you know, a couple of days ago when it got done. And, I mean, I, the first night, first day, I was in there for nine hours. I mean, it's just pounding away, dude, like just, I just, I mean, I can hit balls all day long, all day.

And so like I just to go in there now and just be in that room and be able to use it and like, you know, I'm all right. There's been multiple. I'm like, I got something figured out. I think it's, you know, just that. And I mean, that's just constant. And like, so the biggest dream, I've wanted a simulator for, I don't know, however long they've been out, five years. And that's all I've thought about. I was like, I've got to be able to somehow get a simulator at some point.

And so it's like almost like the only goal I've been working for is to get to that point to get to. one. But it's, you know, just to be, because you watch all these video, you watch you and try something. I mean, you don't know when your mind, your mind stinks golf. Honestly, for me too much when I'll need to be writing an act, like a new stand-up act. And I'm just thinking about golf all the time. But you want to go try something. It might be midnight. You're like, now, now I can. So it's, yeah, I love it. I've had, we had John Augustine came over today. Who played a vandine is a pro now. Beat him with my handicap.

Pretty nine holes, pretty pumped. I played out of my mind. Around before that, I was 14 over through nine holes. So I got a tin on a hole. So chipping was a little, I gotta get used to that, you know. Yeah, it's a totally different game, right? Have you figured out that there's two aspects of your game now, a simulator game and a real life game?

Yeah, I haven't even played real life since. to the simulator. So I'll be, I'll be interested to see, you know, it's been raining, it's cold right now in Nashville and you're just like,

dude, the fact that you can go play, you know, the good thing with a pro in there is that you can be like, hey, is this line, is this correct?

Do I have everything set up right? It's pretty awesome to, because you can just be like, all right, go hit it and tell me if it's set up. Because he knows that much. Like one day, it was like kind of hooking off a little bit.

And I was like, you know, you're like, God, it must be the simulator. Like something's happening. And then, and then with him, you're like, no, no, it's, it's, he's got to dialed in for me now perfectly. Is your family all worried about, I'm sorry?

Is your family at all worried about never seeing you again now that you have the simulator in the house? Nine hours on the first day feels like that time is likely going to increase. I mean, I have not, I haven't seen them, so I don't know. I don't know how to answer that question. We have yet to talk. So, I mean, I think everything feels fine, you know. everything's good on your side of the house. You're in danger of going like five hours you're away at the golf course.

Then you come back and you go straight to the Senate. Stowe my golf bag in there all mad. We got to figure this show up. You know what to find me? I got to get after it in there. I just went by her. I mean, so we put, we had to do the kind of add on this room to our house because we didn't have a room

in the house. And so I, which I add on, look, I'm just saving, I'll be able to sell the house. Now it's got an extra bedroom. This is all,

this is all the stuff I told my wife from. I'm like, yeah, we're going to get our money back. This is free. It's free. And so, but we put some sound stuff in between it.

I was like, you know, just so you can't hear it in the house. And I mean, and you're banging drivers. It sounds like a shotgun going on. Like, I mean,

the neighbor's dog. started barking one night. I think it's going to be this quiet, like, I'm minding my own business, and it's just boom, like every time you hit up drive. Everybody hears it. You're like, all right. Who's up later at night banging drives? You or Bryson DeShambo?

You guys just screaming in your little rooms trying to figure out what's going on. I would love to go see how much, I mean, I can hit all day. You know, obviously drivers, you could get, like, drivers, swinging driver like he does that long is pretty crazy. that that would you can get yourself tired out you told me you give me a seven iron I mean come on I'll be in there all night what do you want to do here what we do we do it seven iron I'll hit it all day there's a story about Bryson after one of the terms I think Ryan Whitney actually just told the story about like he would

go after the round he'd hit 20 balls off the tea as hard as he possibly could and people say after he does it he actually passes out like in that room with Chris Como he actually like will pass out and they'll catch him and he'll come back up and he'll just rejuvenate himself. He says it's like a reset on his brain and his body. Who told this story? That sounds ridiculous. Yeah, no, it's insane. Whitney was talking about it on spitting chicklets yesterday. It sounds incredibly dangerous. Yeah.

Like, I almost fundamentally don't believe that, but you're going to swing that hard and then you're going to pass out. Yeah, I think Bryson's talked about that. Well, he's talked about wanting to reset his CNS, his central nervous system. Where he no longer can just like stand. Like, he just blacks out. So Nate, that's like you after nine hours, you leave that place. You just can't even.

Yes. Can't see straight. Yeah, I don't know what's happening. Yeah, that's... Family looks at you and like, what the hell's wrong with this guy? Just orient. You're a different guy. It is tough.

Like, I'll be, you know, like, you'll be trying to go to bed. And then I'll just be, you start, like, sweating and you're like, this is like, now I've got to, like, take a shower. Like, it's, you know, it's midnight now. And you're like, that's all ruined everything. But, you know, it's all for the better. I hope it makes me, you know, I was just, you know, I was trying to like talk like I do have to uh I've been told is like I because the fact that you can go hit that much you do have to kind of tell yourself like hey calm it down like you can you can work in really bad habits because you can just be doing something wrong and then just kind of keep doing that so I I have to somewhat be self-aware to go like look something's not working tonight and so let's ringing it in but maybe no more range which is exciting.

Well, one thing I was going to say, it's like, I was always thought it would be awesome to have a private simulator because genuinely going out and experimenting with stuff and trying crazy shit, pulling up YouTube videos deep in the YouTube rabbit hole is something like everybody I think probably should do because you'd find stuff with your swing and like what doesn't work, what does work. But on the range, it's risky to do. Like it's everybody has a certain feeling of like self-consciousness. Sim, you're out there trying crazy shit and hitting horrific shots. You can end up, like, on Instagram. You could, you're just, part of you thinks, like, I don't want to be too, like, I kind of want to hit it well so that the guy to my left of me, like, I know he can hear how I'm hitting it.

So, like, I don't want to hit all bad shots because I want this guy to think that I'm actually kind of decent. Whereas if you got your own Sim, you can, like, whatever goes on in that room, dude, is between you and your Sim. That's it. Yeah. I can try Matt. I can be Matt Wolf all day long.

I don't go try it. I don't go try it. Yeah. There's a, we, there's a guy. I think he's really good, though. He always, he hits left one-handed, like with his left hand at our range. But I mean, he'll hit that as good as most people are hitting their regular shots. But like he was like even like, so that that's like a very tough shot to like learn to do. But it's a very good thing to know how to do. Just that left-handed swing. It's the impact, the smoothness of it. And so like I've been trying to do that more because it is. is it's not as embarrassing because those when you do left-handed it's just one hand i mean it's the ball can go who knows where and uh and anytime i've ever done it on a range you just feel stupid because you know you like someone you someone you walk by you you think you're that good dude that you should be doing one-handed shots and you're like oh no i'm just trying to get better like you know it did but hey all the training aids my buddy your buddy man Wyatt he comes over and he brought his training aid today the swing aid that's got the i don't know you put your arms together yep i mean he's basically just go back the truck up and dump swinging aids back there like all these swing aids that you would

never try at a range because you're like i can't i can't be walking up pulling this thing out it's going like a hospital with what you guys got going on in that point i mean what that's what people are bringing a bunch of swing aids over to your sit it's like what are you guys trying to solve what are you all doing that guys a lot of things we're trying to solve a lot there's a lot there's a lot that needs to be solved. So do you you guys play, imagine you have matches and whatnot. Are you

like a better SIM chipper? Because I don't even mention a little bit earlier, I've always chipped way better on the sim than in real life. You know, I did the second thing I played with John today. But it's,

I'm a bad, my chipping is very, very inconsistent. Like very, that's where my problems happen is chipping and putting essentially but chipping is i have zero confidence and unless it's like very nice when we're in arizona like it's you know it's super hot and it's green and you're like all right i'm you're not scared uh but if it's tied at all i mean it's makes me it's not good and so chipping is something that i will be great they had the test thing on track man where you can put in all these yardages and it gives you a score so we'll tell you like

117 yards 81 yards 95 yards and you got to hit as close as you can to those numbers and then you get a score from zero to 100 depending on where you do it so I did that one day out of 20 shots I got like a 65 and I think 85 90 is what like the pros are getting and so like that kind of stuff like where you're getting really good at those weird yardages and being able to dial that stuff. And that's my biggest hope. It's hard to judge chipping on this because it's, you know, it's just a different visual thing. You're looking at a screen.

It's just kind of like weirder. But I make much, I make better contact in that simulator than I do. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love that you're basically, like we did, we chatted with Butch Harmon a couple weeks ago. And he essentially described exactly what you just said for like, how Dustin Johnson figured out his his wedge game. And I love the comparison of like you're,

you're going through your nine hours a day of your regimented practice in your wedge game, just like the best player in the world does. Yeah. You go just see me and Dustin both sit in a chair. Like, oh, I'll take the question. What's that? Just us talking about Trackman.

Like, Dustin, do you mind if I'll answer this one? Have you, has the Trackman taught you anything that surprised you about your game? Like, are you looking at all the numbers? Are you crunching the numbers, or what's the situation with that? Yes, you look at, I do look at some spin rate. I look at, you know, notice the ball speed, I guess more now. And like, I forget what it was now.

I've only had it for a couple days. That's spent a bunch of hours with it. But it was, like the seven iron was, I forget, what is the ball speed on seven? Was it one, is 120 sound right? balls like um i don't think so right yeah i think so it's like i noticed like i would be a lot of times around like 118 1 20 like you see that ball speed be somewhat the same and you kind of realize like oh i do yeah i think it's 120 because then like you then you're like all right if it's 118 and then you're like you want to be 120 then i see one go 113 and you're like all right well i hit that one

kind of fat and so you do kind of like see that you're like yeah if you hit a good shot your numbers are kind of always the same. And like, you're like, all right, so I, for my seven iron, I want it to be like that. I like, I could almost tell you, you could now be like if it's 120 ball speed, it's going to go 170, like if it's normal conditions. And so it's weird to kind of, I think I'll start understanding those numbers more. Face the path, I want to learn a little bit more, you know, angle of attack. Like, I think, I think, too, angle attack, just to learn to be able to see a number.

be like if I do what I think to do to have a steeper attack angle or not as a steep. So I think all that stuff will be. Yeah, I'll have to come back and tell you all after. See, that's what I want to hear. I want to hear like the on course difference too. Like if you're in a month now, you're just like Mr. Trackman on the course and you're like spitting numbers of people. And they're like, dude, there's not a computer out here.

We're just playing on the golf course. If you become kind of like relying on it. Yeah. You think that Ball Street is 118? Get out of here, dude. I hear it 118 all day long. You're lucky if it was 108. And they're like, I don't even know what that means.

Like, I'm not even with that group. Like, I'm just like walking around. Just where's that guy's bag? The only thing that would make me nervous about, like, getting addicted to the track man and stuff like that or indoor simulators is I'm a big sweeper of the ball. And I think a reason for that is because I always grew up hitting off of these, like, mats. Right? Like, I didn't know what it felt like. to like crush into a ball and and I mean lurch here is an assassin to the ground he just fucking

he takes earth with him every time he makes contact but I would like do you fear like not having that feeling of going into the ground all the time or do you think you have your swing so dialed in that it doesn't matter I think you can tell when you have forgiveness yeah so you can tell when the it kind of bounce the ball and you hit a good shot on a mat and I learned some of that because our range, when it gets super wet, obviously we have to hit mats and all winters hitting off mats. And so I would go to the range a lot. And so you fit,

once you, you kind of learn that like, you get away with it on this mat, but you, I'm aware that that was not a good shot. Like your, you know, like your idea of what a good shot is just becomes,

so you just know, where you're, you know, they look good, but then your good becomes, it makes it, it actually, like,

that's when golf gets like even harder because you then, know what is good. Right. But I just kind of pay attention to that. But I do, I did worry about, I do worry about that because you can be really good. But people would have trouble just off grass anyway. I mean, you know, with just, you get used to a mat and then you go out.

And some reason the glass, you don't want to, like, get your, I always have it with, if the ground's wet, like, you weirdly don't want to get your club dirty. So you kind of just try to catch it as clean as possible. And you know, and then a lot of bad stuff happens. All kinds of bad stuff happens. But it is when you roll it, man, you know it's going to be a nightmare when you make contact with that ground. Your clubs look good. There's probably your light subconsciously in the back of your head.

You're like, eh, you yip up on it and then you're just ruined for the whole day. All day. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. When I play when it's wet, I have to remind myself, like, hit hard into the ground. Like, you know, because otherwise I'll do that. And he just scold one. that's part of Florida golf that I don't love is everything's so soaking like soggy sometimes around those like pondy areas and that grass is so soft that I always feel like that that's the only place I take divots and it's a bad divot I'm just chunking I've chunked maybe every single ball I've ever played in Florida except for this last tailor-made series where I absolutely lit it on fire but they played well something about that that soft ground is very very scary soft ground and wind for some reason changes my swing which both shouldn't have an effect on how I make contact with the ball

just the idea of wind coming in my face, I changed my swing. Why? It's just going to affect what the ball does in the air. It has nothing to do with how I make contact. It's true, right? We all think it kind of, though. If that wind is gusting your face, you're taking a completely different swing. Oh, yeah, you're just not comfortable.

Right. It's pathetic. But it shouldn't happen. It just shouldn't happen. Yeah, like, what's going to happen? It's like playing a video game. The ball is just going to go like 20 yards shorter. Club up.

It's so crazy, though. I can't get through my head. I really can't. I try to hit punch shots more, like even when you're full swing, because I think that's, I, A, I think it's a better swing for, because they always say, like, amateurs or swings are longer, or much longer than we think. Like, we usually, a lot of us go back farther than, you know, pro does. Like, we think we, you know, guys don't think they have any flexibility.

And they're like, I can't go back far. And you're like, you're back, dude. Like, and so it's like just keeping it, you know, just, it's like, also my, I've learned my takeaway speed, and this is a similar thing, because I can see those numbers, I can take it back very slow and just have it and keep that tempo and then just, you know, you just kind of got that speed and using your legs more at the bottom. And it's like it goes as far as it does if I feel like I'm crushing it. And it feels much more.

And so, but if I take it away slow, that keeps my tempo better than when I, you know, I can tend to jerk back quick. I mean, he's really speaking your language now. I mean, you just looked at right. big time you looked right through frankie's soul with that because he's his tempo is all the way off it's these shoulders man i got two bad wings so i mean i really can't reach back in high school golf i used to be able to john daly it and see the driver head in the back of my

yeah now it's i mean it's it's shorter than tony but you don't but you don't have to you don't have to go back i mean you look at fainow and john rom i mean it's two people that don't so it's all i also think amateurs that we don't use our legs like that's a gigantic thing To me, that's what I think is probably the biggest thing. We do not use our legs correctly. And we don't know how to use the force of the ground and that stuff. And that's when you can swing like, you know, when you ever get those swings that feel like nothing and they go forever. It's like because you're using your giant legs versus just your lower body staying still.

I don't think Riggs has moved his legs in 10 years in a golf swing. It's just two pylons. Dude, I feel that way too. Arms are washed across the ball. Riggs go straight up. You actually jumps. At impact, I actually like, off the ground.

I try to like eliminate my legs is entirely and just swing with my body. You look like a robot. One of those robots that just hits. Exactly. Yeah, it sucks. I want to try to use my fucking legs. They're strong. I have hockey.

I would ask you, you know, if you get lessons, like, just say I want to use my legs more. Like I want to, dude, I think that's that. And then you use legs. You just like, you don't have to, you won't go back as. far because you're just like you know you're thinking of like getting into the ball and and then it's like i don't know it's like uh it just you don't feel like you go to miss the ball it's not it's just right there and you pound it i will say it sounds like your game's in a good place by the way you're talking about it like you're pretty confident with the numbers the tempo like you're

feeling good over the ball in this we just did nine hours in the simulator yeah yeah right now dude i'm a professional i'm a professional golf right now right now i've done two days of the 17 hours in the 7th? Yeah, dude, I think I know what I'm doing, all right? I think I got it all figured out. I mean, I'll go tomorrow and just get annihilated on a real course. And I won't understand it. But, no, I'm thinking a lot about it right now.

And figuring out just that what's the most, I'm just looking for a consistent swing is all I want. and then and trying to like start thinking of the ball. I, but yeah, I mean, last, I haven't played, last time I played was I told Riggs, I played with Shea and lost a lot of money. How's his game? Do you hear a lot about him?

Is he still cleaning you out or what? No, Shea's not, dude, the whole day, it ended up being like a crazy, whereas like we had like Brett Young and Darius Rucker was playing with us and Shay, and then John Augustine. So we're playing at Trubidor, which I think y'all have been to Trubador in Nashville. And so it started raining, and everybody left with me, Shea and John.

And so, like, this is how good Shea was playing. So I beat Shea every time we play. Shea is getting better. And he plays a big, you know, a big, like, slice. Like, he plays it so much that we were, I think, I don't remember I told you the last that we were once on a part three. And I told him, I go, I'll give you $2,000 for a whole and one. $5,000 for a draw.

That's how confident I was he wasn't drawing. I just knew it wasn't going to happen. But he's starting to figure it out, and he's figuring out how to play it. And so we're playing, like, say we've got seven holes left, and so we were going to start gambling then. And we start playing. And he's gambling John, and he's gambling me in two separate games.

And so I'm giving him two strokes out of those seven holes. John's giving him a stroke a hole. John's a professional golfer. John shot four under in those seven holes, and they went all square. That's how good Shea played. Wow. And so I was one up on Shea,

and on 17, I gave him an extra stroke because I was like, whatever. And then he beat me, and then he beat me on 18. So then he won like $600. So then we played three more holes for $400. I was like, just to make it even $1,000, it's even. And he beats me. for that and then we play three more double or nothing for a thousand double or nothing and and i'm not a big i'm not this crazy money gambling it this is just literally yeah is it still raining at this point

i'm picturing the three of you and like a down four but you're losing money and you're just like no three more don't you leave on me now so throw his keys away we go we do three more holes in john and so john john was going to be my caddy for double or nothing with two grand john will be my caddy and then me and him play so we agree that then we get to the first tee and she goes it tells john augustine he goes i'll give you 300 bucks if you're my caddy and john who's a college kid has no money or out of college now but that's no money he's like all right i'll take it i was like that's my whole advantage is just gone for me she just bought me out and so we play and dude she is i mean 40 yards off the green putting just did not

chip once and and just putting three feet to the hole every time and then he just ends up beating me and then we end up doing a bunch like closest to the holes and he's a good guy and let me get it down to just a thousand but i mean that was a i missed a three-foot putt dude that john lined i mean john lined it up for me and he's like it just i got it lined up aim it just hit it and i mean i just a yank kid left. I just Shay played out of his mind. He's never played

that, like, that good. He's starting to figure out his swing. Does Shea, like, I feel like he's too nice to even, does he like talk shit to you out there? Dude, he laughs like the Joker. I mean, he just this laugh. I mean, dude,

he loses it. Because we, he's never beat me. And then he, he's, He's just cackling. When I missed that three-foot putt, you would think there'd be some kind of sympathy thrown my way. And it was the most laugh, I mean, just losing his mind laughing. And I was like, we were, I mean, I was trying to get in his head.

Like I was, he's just so, he's a, he's a wonderful person. And he's so positive. He's got a very positive mindset. And that works very well with golf. And if you're doing, if you're playing great, it works even. better. And that's what that's what his his attitude was. I mean, he destroyed those three foot puts. That's as most that's as as it as exposed as you can be on a golf course because you know, when you miss puts on your own, it's like, well, I just like, whatever, the green. I just miss

read it. But when you have a guy like John being like this is where you got to go right here, no like this is all on you now. Everyone knows it. This is all I can do. Everyone knows it. And it's just, it's just wrong by you. Like it was all you that just, fucked it up and that that's where you get exposed whenever i have a good caddy i'm almost a little i'm a little pissed off that that's what my day's going to consist of because everyone knows that this guy's the best guy at the club and when i start missing puss it's all on me it's not it's never like a collective all we just messed out maybe we missed a read no he knew where to put it he knew where that ball needed to go yeah it's like it's like you you this fully grown

adult who plays this game all the time you just need to be able to roll that ball straightforward like this is where it's going to go. You just roll it straightforward. That's it. That's all you have to do. And you just can't do it sometime. Couldn't handle it. Had no idea.

It's, it's, you know, I mean, that's how I, dude, I'll start, that's where you start changing grips. I'll be like, I'm left hand low. And I'm like, maybe I'll go back here. You know, and then I'm like, then I'm doing a claw grip. And then I'll do, we play a lot of the bandy guys. Mike Yoschinsky plays for the Giants, but he putts looking at the hole. And, I mean, there's been plenty of rounds. where I've started, I'll just do that.

And you talk about looking stupid when your people are, I mean, you almost have to make an announcement. Hey, just everybody heads up. I look at the hole when I putt. Because otherwise someone's going to be like, what are you doing, man? I mean, you're 80 feet out and I'm just looking. I'm looking for the car girl. Just like, what's he?

What's his problem? Well, Frankie's the lefty and he's been thinking about switching to righty while he puts. And I think you would put better if you putt at righty. Every time I walk up. to a put if it's five feet, seven feet, whenever I juice one and you go up and like someone gives you the put or you lose the hole, I go righty, back of the spider, drain it every single time. I don't think I've ever missed a right-handed putt to the point where I should just switch. I agree.

It's not working lefty. It's not. Yeah. Whatever's happening over here on the left side is not working. With the back of the putter too. Like you just, you go get a real back of the putter, right-handed. Yeah. Tray-on. Someone would be like, I don't even know. what's happening. Dude, we went to Taylor made to get fitted and the guy who was fitting me on the, like, we did this whole video, like guys getting fitted in the putting putting studio, guys doing the

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shouldn't even show this really. He's actually making, it's making the machinery look. like average and and not that cool because like it's not lining you up it's just the lines are like this so yeah no i think i may so tritreity the more i talk about it right now it's good idea okay that's pretty good giving them a machine it's like they're like last you know i know you guys are fun guys about golf but like no one needs to see this you know what i mean just give up the game pretty much there's no solution there can be no footage or evidence that this ever took place

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He said, you know, I really want to like wait and maybe not watch it because I think shows are coming back. like I want to see them in that material live, but then we find out later that that's not necessarily the process, that the process might be more that like once a special is done, that's sort of the end of some of that material. So as guys that loved to hear how the sausage is made, you talk us through kind of that process and which side we were right or wrong about.

Yeah, you, so the goal of it usually is like this special we taped in October of 2020 and came out March 18, 21. So usually in your head, it all changes. First of all, when you're nobody and no one knows you, it's like sometimes you end up keeping the old stuff. But once you start having people come out and they're actually there to see you and they're watching these specials, October to that March, you would like to be, some people get turned over completely. You do those shows knowing like I can use this old material to build up this new material. And then when that special comes, on your tour,

tour, you have a new hour. And so for me, it's much different during COVID, but that's the goal of it now. So like now I'm doing some clubs that are like all half capacity. And there, and I'm able, I was able to do an hour this past weekend, actually, that was different. I would say 20 of it to 30 is like pretty is like really good. And then the other is like definitely just like kind of filler. just I'm trying to figure something out, but it's not all there yet. So I'll slowly, and now I'm looking at it's like my theater dates start in August or September. And so by then I want to really be like I have this kind of hour like really going at that point. But I mean, it's different for comics, but the idea of it is if you tape it when that special comes out,

if you came and saw me that night or the next day, I should give you, I would say at least 40 to 45 minutes new, I would hope. And then maybe I have to, you know, maybe I'll be like, I'm going to do an encore with some old jokes. Like, you can kind of do some stuff like that where you're doing 10, 50 minutes of your greatest hits. And, you know, you even do some older jokes from other specials. But the goal of it is to be new. Like, I know Burr, that's how Byrd does it.

And what's great, too, is the bird's been in the economy for so long is a lot of times you end up having a lot of material kind of that doesn't make specials. So it's some of the, you know, some of the, of it's old, but you can kind of put that back in. And I remember because I watched Bird, like after we went to meeting with the Daytona 500, a while ago, eight years ago or something. When I, when I take my standups to half hour, so, oh, 2017, I guess. And so I watched him. His special came out the night before we were doing a show.

I was open to him in Daytona, and the next day we were going to Daytona 500. And he had a new hour. And I mean, I was like, how do you have a new hour, dude? Like, that's crazy. And that's what he kind of told me that was like one way to do it is you do have new stuff. And then you also just got some stuff that's never made a special. And so maybe you do some of that stuff. And that kind of tied you over until you can build the whole new hour, whatever you're working on.

And so that's the, that's typically how it is done. You just, you know, you just kind of bang. it out and hopefully come up with new stuff when you tape a special you're usually ready to be done like this one i was you're just kind of like i i i don't want to do this material anymore i want to start doing some new stuff with that material in the new special how much were you able to try it out because it was such a weird year how much were you able to actually try it out in front of live audiences i did it uh so we did a bunch of driving theater dates so i was outside in front of cars and you know uh so i that's really where i did it

I did 22 of those. And then that helped me get used to the timing because this special, they had to wear a mask. And I mean, I couldn't even hear the crowd like at all. The first show, it was supposed to do an hour. And so I get off to the first show.

I did 43 minutes. That's how quick it goes. Like that's how much a crowd matters. Yeah. It's like that energy and the laugh of a crowd, the timing. I mean, it's all in seconds,

But like all the jokes, all the little laughs you get here and the longer laughs I get at other places. And it's just the momentum that gets built up. I mean, it's like there could be 20 minutes of momentum that just gets sucked out because, I mean, they had mask on. So I didn't even think about that, but like I couldn't see their face. And so I'm just seeing eyes. And you're like, I mean, unless a guy was like shaking, laughing, like you would be like, dude, these people hate me. Like this is insane. And so usually when you get done with a special,

you take two shows and they put together the best up. You're basically trying to get kind of, you usually end up taking most from one show. But we got done with the first show. Usually they go like, we got it, don't worry about it. Second show, just have fun. That's what they always, and this one I got off, they were like, yeah, we do not have it.

This is, the second show is the most important show that you've ever done. Because there's not another show. show. Like, I don't know what happens if I don't get to, you know, if I, if I walk off again and I do 45 minutes and they're, you know, I got to do an hour. And so I don't know if you're like, you know, you actually start like showing like, I don't know, like a sketch. Like I just start writing other stuff. Like, I would probably have to go back out, honestly. Like you would, I mean, it would be, it would be a nightmare. You had the, you had the helicopters flying over in

this special. Did that happen during Bo Scho? shows? Yeah. Yeah. So we weren't going to put that in, but then I, you know, I didn't want to be some special that you're never going to watch again outside of COVID because it doesn't, it feels too COVID. Like, but I also, it is that it is what we were doing. Right. It's a time that happened. The helicopters are flying over during both shows. And so, and, you know, I riffed on them and it was at the riffing was like pretty funny. And so it was like, all right, let's just, let's try to leave them in. And, you know, and just to, I don't know, just show that, like, just to be like it feels like this is how crazy of a time it was. And we learned to those helicopters

afterwards, we learned there was a police chase. And so they were, they were there the whole time. And so, wow. They were coming and I could see them and like, you know, and then they'd come up and then I thought it's about to happen. But then it would like go another way. And you're like, all right, that one's good. And, you know, and the whole special, I'm just kind of like keeping an eye out, just seeing if one's going to come. Because they come just right when, you know, I would have tried to ignore it, but they were, they were just so loud that it was, it was very obvious.

It's things you've never thought you had to deal with as a comedian. I mean, that and then also when you talk about how, like when you're doing those car shows and someone wants to leave, they turn the lights on and fucking, and they back up. She's like, all right, see that guy later. I mean, it's the most, like, it's the craziest exit you could think of for a comedian. Well, it was in Butler, Pennsylvania at first point. It was a big Ford F-150 just duck out pretty early. He says it.

His headlights just hit me in the face. Like, I was just like, all right, dude. And he couldn't figure out how to get out. So he, like, made a couple laps. And you're like, you know, it's like an engine that's like, burr. Like, it's a diesel legend for sure. Yeah, you're like, I God, dude, just show someone, show him how to get out. Where's like a person with like something, dude?

It's like, pump the guy out. Yeah, just going up and down the lanes. I mean, just it was, he's like, oh, no, I guess not this way. And then he goes back, yeah, it's, you know, but it's not just a person that no one can see. Right. It's this giant truck that's like, is this not? Okay, I'll go back. I'll go back.

And you're like, oh. Oh, man. Oh, man. That's good. Yeah, so I had it wrong. I thought, I always thought, um, it was like, uh, like a, a band that releases an album and they tour it around the country in the world and you go and see the tour so I was like man I fucking love napar gatsy so much in his comedian and his comedy shows

that I don't want to ruin it because I want that feeling of being in front of you and seeing it live and getting that energy but yeah I'm glad that someone corrected us because I went back and watched it and man it was good it was really good I'm not saying every not every comic probably does that or you know sometimes you're never going to know someone's scheduled someone tapes it that shoots a movie and they can't do it. But it depends on how, if you catch them close to like, if you go pretty close after that special way, you'll probably see something that from the special. But overall, I mean, the problem of comedy is like, it's, you know, it's all about a surprise.

And like so, I mean, once they heard the joke, it's like they know the joke. You have some jokes that people want to hear again. You know, Brian Regan always gets people yelling stuff out. And they want to hear a lot of his jokes over. And so you definitely I remember watching Burr at Carolines after the I don't know if y'all would even know it but he

was on an opening anthie tour in Philadelphia and they were booing they were booing everybody. He was like this crazy outdoor thing and he went up and just trashed Philadelphia. It's the it's if you haven't watched the video go watch it. Yeah I remember that I remember when that went viral. That's a yeah

I remember seeing that clip yeah. Dude he's he's a you're all your biggest sports star is a made up movie Rocky like that's your like uh just went after him it was counting down the minutes because he's like i got he got seven more minutes and i'm gonna i mean just went after him so he would have problems after that is everybody he'd go to a show and they'd be like track they want them to like bird or roast their town and he's like no dude i'm not that's not that's not what this is like i'm not you know and that's a path you can see someone take you can you can become that you could be like

all right i'll roast your town and then you're starting now that's a whole different path. Or you can do what he did and he goes, I'm not doing that. He'd have to tell the crowd. He's like, no, I'm doing my act. I'm not just roasting everybody's town. And then he built his act and obviously he's at where he's at now. Can we talk about the Joe Rogan show for a second because I thought your appearance on that was so freaking good. And we're all big Joe Rogan fans. I mean, I think we all listened to it. And I've always wondered like, it's a very long form podcast. Did you feel any pressure to like just keep tall like keep that thing rolling right? Because he's very he's known for just like going until you guys stop.

There's no structure to it. So like I mean that was a pretty long one right. It was over three hours. What's it like like doing that like going into that? I wanted to be over three. I wanted to hit that. I was nervous about that. I was nervous to be like, all right, we're good.

It's an hour and a half. You're like right. Yeah. One in history. So you worry about, you know, obviously getting stuck like that because you know they're all so long. Yeah. And it was, you know, I don't, I had a, he got me on stage the first time ever at the comedy store. And I told the story in the Rogan podcast.

And he obviously would never remember that story. But he was like kind of a crazy. It was a very, very nice thing of him to do for me, just to give me on this open mic. So I, as at least, I knew, I knew I had that story to tell him. And then one thing I learned, I asked some people that also went on to be like, I don't really know him. So it was like, you know, you can be intimidating, you know, it's like you get worried. Like sometimes you do jokes and sometimes they don't land. It's just you and another guy.

Yep. In their room. And so then it could get like I made a joke about capita. Like I have a joke in my act now that's talking about. I don't know what like they always say the what capita means on, you know, like per capita. All COVID cases. I'm like, what does this even mean? And he was like, you don't know what capital.

Yeah. I guess I guess I don't. You know. That was awkward. But I did, he was like, you Yeah. Come on, dude. You know what capital means. And he actually read them the, like,

he read them the definition. And I'll be honestly, I don't know what it means. But it's, I was like, it was like just being like, you just want to make a joke and laugh. And then we move on. And he was like, oh, no, I'll show you what it means. You're like, oh, yeah, dude. I would love to hear what it, what it is.

But he's a sweetheart of a guy. I mean, a wonderful, wonderful person. And someone that told me what it is. It's like, what do you got to realize when you go in there? It's, this dude is, he's got so much money now. He's a corporation, you know, his day is outside. He's got his family. He's got to be a dad.

And then he's also got to run all these, you know, he's in charge of so much stuff. And so he was like, just go into it and realize like this is the one time he doesn't have to deal with all that stuff. And so it's like you and him just hanging out. And it's just like, just talking. And that's his, like he, that's his time. He gets to hang out and meet a lot of people and get to talk to him. And so it was like going into it thinking that helped a lot. My buddy Yonnas, Pappas was on it.

And that's the one that told me that. And he was, and it was like, that was like really good advice, like, just to go in. Because you are, you know, you're, I mean, it's intimidating. I mean, to go do it. But it ended up, yeah, it ended up being really good. And I mean, and I went out with them last afterwards. him and Chappelle were doing shows at Stubbs, barbecue. And I went to the show and then just hung out.

And it was, I mean, so to see Rogan and Chappelle, Ron White was there. And I mean, it ended up being like a, it was like an awesome night. And I mean, and really, and Rogan, Rogan's about comedians, which I, is a big deal for me, guys that like don't quit doing stand-up. There's a lot of stand-up comedians that get into stand-up comedy. then they you can tell that they once a second they can get a movie and never do it again they're going to do that and so i like guys like rogan you know or j leno is one or j leno still does stand-up he still loves stand-up he's still a stand-up comedian jerry sinefeld still a stand-up comedian

those guys don't need to be comedians but they still are and i love that they stuck with it and rogan is that way rogan's a comic that's all you know he looks at himself he's a stand-up comic and he's a line I can put him in the Smithsonian for the this all the discussions they've had on that podcast I mean it's such a big deal but he's still just a stand-up comic that wants to hang out and like you know make jokes have fun and yeah that's what he is yeah it's so cool it was a really good really good episode and yeah no I'm a big fan and it's interesting to hear that like going in that you don't really know him and then afterwards like you guys talk for so long it's such a good discussion you're able to like go out afterwards like that show brings you guys so close that you're

comfortable enough to go out right afterwards he called me the next day when i got home and we talked for like uh 30 minutes just about like calm like a little bit more and like but it was like yeah it was like you know we're made it comfortable you're like if i had to call this guy like i wouldn't be like i can't call this guy like you know uh you know jamie uh the young jamie uh getting real into golf Really? Oh, yeah? Yeah. I talked to him, I talked to him a lot. But, yeah, he's getting way into it and likes it.

That's our end. So, yeah, there you go. That's our guy. Wow. You're going to infiltrate Jamie. That's very cool. We figured it out. Also, now you've made your bed now. You have to do comedy for the rest of your life stand-up, even though you're going to

become a huge movie star. You have to come back to the state. I'm fine flipping flopping. So I'll completely turn. I think I never talk to you guys ever in my life. I'm like, I'm sorry, what's your name? I'm a movie star now. You're great pro-tives up.

Like, don't you remember? You're like, I'm sorry. Was that? Who is that? I was on drunk on drugs. I'll just make up stuff. Those guys are out of their mind. I'm like, I'll just make stuff.

I'll call you COVID deniers. I'll say whatever. Whatever I have to say. I left to get out of that situation. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, man. All right, man.

Well, look, this has been a really good time. Real quick, Master's predictions. I know you're a big golf fan. Who do you like going to Augusta National? I'm going to, man. Sorry to put you on the spot. I know. People take this seriously, too.

I mean, I know DJ, well, he won last year, right? And then could he repeat again? Kepka's probably out, right? Yeah, he's pretty injured. John Rom's officially out? No. Oh, he's not yet? Well, his wife is pregnant.

Right. So he could pull out. He could pull out. So he was like giving an awareness to all the better. He could have pulled out. Oh, yeah. Hey, there you go. Yeah.

You got to get out of marriage if you're a wife. I don't know. I mean, even if she's pregnant. And I mean, come on. I guess he's playing the message. It's a mask. Like, I know. I mean, unless the babies do that day.

Which could be the case. I think it's close. Here's the thing that I don't, and whatever, it's their personal life, and I'm not going to get into all that stuff. But, like, you know when the Masters is. You know where it is every year? Like, you can't find, like, you're saying to plan that out a little bit better. Or just like, I don't know, come to, like, Georgia and we'll do it there. We'll stay there for, like, the month or something.

Like, if you really want to play in the Masters, you can probably figure out a way. You know what I mean? That's a lot to watch your childborn and then get your head together as you go. Yeah, you're very much saying that as a guy who's never had kids. I don't have kids either. True. You're making it some very simple. You're like, I think they could do it out there now.

Yeah, just do it. Just do it on the 11th green. It's fine. It'll be totally fine. He can't make it at the turn. He can't have a baby. You tell me, 2012,

you can't have a baby at the turn. That's what you're trying to tell me right now. Next to the Pimento cheese sandwich. Yeah, come on. Oh, shit. No, yeah, but I don't think he's not officially out or anything. No, okay. Okay.

If it's his first, I look, he probably looks at it's his, it's his, kid being born, obviously, is the greatest thing you could ever do. And then he looks at the matter. I mean, he's so young. Right. It's not like he's going to, he's got a million of these left. So, uh, speed is playing really good.

Yep. Uh, he's always up there. He wants to get that one back. Speed is only 14 to 1 to win the Masters right now. I'm looking on Marshall Sportsbook. That's, that's pretty good. That's like, 14 to 1? He's basically a favorite.

Yeah, I would say that's not enough value. I'm going to go with my buddy, Jason Day. Always plays good at Augusta. Didn't play good in November, but he's got a mixed bag now. I think he feels good. Augusta does, I guess it is a good course for him. There'll be normal conditions. And, I mean, look, he was up there in the PGA championship.

He's had a lot of good. showings at Augusta he's 40 to 1 which I think is actually pretty good value I mean the fact that he's 40 to 1 and speed is 14 to 1 is amazing right yeah I like that pick yeah I actually really when we go down to barcel sports book in Philadelphia I will be thinking about this moment right now and I may throw a little coin on Jason Depp put a little on it I think I'm with you I'll ride that Pauli it's a good call I'm feeling I'm feeling Tommy Fleetwood for a little bit of a dark horse Hey, does he not have a PGA win? You never won over here.

Yeah, that's so crazy because he's so good. He's so good. Yeah. For such a big name, it's stunning that he doesn't have one, right? Because, like, you hear Tommy Fleetwood, you're like, stud. Yeah. Yeah, you think he's got a few. And then, yeah, yeah, I was, I think I heard it whenever they, they just talked about it.

And I was like, Holly, that's, yeah, it seems crazy. But, yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, he could too. Billy Horssell's playing really good, too. Yeah. Really good. He's been up there a lot. Except that one swing last week.

Yeah. And the match played. And still won. And still won. That's the beating match play. Yeah. All right. Jason Day.

I like it. Yep. Big fan. Jason Day, book it to win the Masters. All right, man. Nate, we appreciate it. Everybody go check out new special. If you have it yet, the greatest average American.

I'm extremely talented and a huge golfer and we like all of those. We got to come see that simulator, dude. I know. Well, y'all come down here. Where have you? I'll have it all decked out. We're going to get some proper seating in there. And we're getting a side entrance so that the wife and the daughter doesn't have to see us.

I got a side entrance with a keypad. So I know a bunch of guys are going to come over here when I'm out of town. So don't be everybody coming over here trying to figure that key better. It is one, two, three, four. All right, everybody. Oh, man. Yeah, thanks a lot, man. Yeah, a lot of fun.

Always a pleasure talking to you. Absolutely. Yeah. Anytime. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Nate. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, man.

See you guys. Good night.