Fore Play - New Year’s Week w/ 61-year-old College Golfer Don Byers
Episode Date: January 3, 2018Huge week to kick off the new year as the guys are joined by 61-year-old college golfer Don Byers. Don details how he got recruited, going back to college 40 years later, what his wife thinks, and muc...h more. In From The Gallery with Frankie: would you play Augusta under the stipulation that if you didn't break 95 you could never play golf ever again? Is wearing pants in 80+ degree weather a hardo move? Plus, Frankie makes a MASSIVE mistake at a Florida course's practice range!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Riggs, our guy, Trent.
We got Frankie Brelie, the pizza maker, joining us later for From the Gallery.
We also got a little throwback.
We got producer Rob, Robbie Fox, jumps on for part of From the Gallery to discuss a little hypothetical, a little bit who would win.
We have a big, big, big show kicking off our new year.
year we're pumped we actually started this podcast February 2nd okay of 2017 so about 11 months in 11 months in
in it's January 2nd as we record this it'll be out January 3rd Trent daddy January 3rd is 92 days
removed from the masters let's go you're starting to see commercials starting to first commercials came
uh during the football games were the first time that i saw them uh this past week we got 61 year old
college golfer Don Byers.
Maybe my favorite guest we've had on the show.
We've had a lot of great guests.
We talk about that every week.
And there's probably not, there's so much buzz surrounding him that it's actually insane.
So I put out a tweet a few minutes ago saying, you know, hey, we got this interview in the pocket.
We just did it.
It's going to be out on tomorrow's show.
A guy already quote tweeted it and said it was his favorite story ever.
It's unbelievable.
And it's true.
It's my favorite story ever as well.
Think of how many stories there have been.
There's a ton of stories.
There's an unbelievable.
lot of stories. An endless amount. And it's his favorite one, Don Byers,
six-year-old golfer at Bellevue University. Yeah, Bellevue,
playing college golf. He's, uh, I think he's an athletic freshman, but like an academic
junior or something. Um, man, this was an incredible interview. We chat with him for about 20
minutes. He takes us all through what it's going to be like. He's met some of the guys. Is he
confident? Is he going to be cocky playing against other college kids? He's thinking he can beat him.
What's the youngest kid that he thinks he's going to beat this year? Uh, really, really good
story. Don is the man. Shout out to his nephew, Alex. I think it's a couple of them, Alex and
Donnie, I think he said, who are big patrons, big stooleys, who first alerted us of this story.
Now Golf Digest has taken it over. A couple local stations have also taken it over. So anyways,
great chat with Don. It's our story. It's our story. It's going to be a huge story, and it's ours.
Please quote Barstool Sports. Thank you. For Play podcast. We also got headlines. We got the tournament of
champions this week.
We got Tiger posted a brand new blog.
We got Jordan Speath, who's engaged.
We broke that story as well.
No big deal.
Kind of a big deal.
We got 2018 expectations with a massive year upcoming.
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So it's tournament of champions.
It is.
We are back.
You know, this is always one of the more...
one of the darker times a year, to be honest with you, as a golf fan, because those of us up in the Northeast,
I've lived out here for a long time now.
And Trent, you know, you were just back in Iowa.
It's cold there.
You're not golfing yet there either.
Yep.
Watching these motherfuckers out in Hawaii, they're standing on these cliffs in Hawaii, hitting tea shots.
The plantation course, the 18th there has kind of that iconic view where they rip a tee shot like 400 yards down the massive downslope.
and then they hit three woods or really long irons into that green with the ocean backdrop, Pacific Ocean,
trees, cliffs.
It's like 75 degrees and sunny.
We could not be further removed from golf up here in the northeast.
You know, it really does.
At first, it feels like, like, oh, we're almost through winter and all that.
It hasn't even started yet.
I completely disagree with you on this.
How?
I like having primetime golf.
So when they play in Hawaii, you get golf like in the middle of the night.
I don't hate primetime golf.
I hate that whenever I watch golf, I become infinitely more anxious to play golf.
And it's very frustrating because I'm going to watch.
I'm very into it.
The tournaments matter again.
You know, who really gives a fuck about like the late fall golf tournaments?
Right.
But these ones, they start to matter.
The guys are prepping for the masters.
Some guys are trying to get into the masters by winning one of these tournaments.
They really start to feel like they matter.
And then that inspires me to want to go play golf and I just can't.
It definitely builds up where you're like, oh, I'm watching these guys play in such
beautiful locations. It makes me want to play. But I really, I've, every single year when this
comes around, I like it so much more than I'm able to watch it when it's completely dark outside.
I think it seems like a strange thing for me to enjoy, but it's a different kind of feel to the
golf tournament. You're watching these guys tee off on islands, and I'm sitting in cold ass,
it used to be Iowa, and now it's going to be New York. I'm just like, yeah, it sucks that I can't
play right now, but at least I get to watch these guys play. I do enjoy primetime golf. I have
to give that to you. I was looking at on Golf Channel. They were doing their hours for the
coverage they send me a little email uh send us a little emails because we're on the media list
yeah shout out to us and it was like coverage six to ten p.m. which is fantastic oh you know what really
reminds me of is tiger at troy pines in 2008 there you go um when you're like we were uh i was down at
the lake in lake of the ozarks in missouri shout out to all my homies in the midwest and we're out
at the lake having a great lake day we came in you know at like six or seven p.m and like they
weren't even on the back nine yet yeah uh it's awesome awesome prime time west coast golf is
great. I remember this, what it reminds me of
is a couple years ago, I can't remember the specific
tournament. It was one of the, one of the Hawaii tournaments where
Ricky Fowler first wore joggers
and high top shoes. Oh, yeah. And
the announcers were having a goddamn shit
fit because golf doesn't like anything that's
new age or trendy. And that's like
what it reminds me of, and I really fondly
look back on the announcers having a heart attack.
And I like the jogger and high top look.
Yeah, you know,
it's true. Look, I do get excited because
these tournaments, like I said, it feels like each
tournament is a step closer to the master's.
They start to get more and more and more important until 92 days from now when the greatest
term of the year kicks off.
I do also have to, I got to give people a little knowledge here from the 2000 tournament
champions.
Okay.
So I'm going through, you know, I go through these phases, right, where I watch Tiger
Woods highlights.
Instead of watching Netflix, instead of like reading a book, I'll just pull out my laptop
and go on YouTube and I'll watch Tiger Woods highlights.
Sure.
but not just Tiger Highlights.
I go through like entire events basically.
And I started seeing some clips.
Like I'll watch, you know,
I'll watch the entire like 2005 British Open at St. Andrews.
Yep.
Or something like that.
And, you know,
they have like these 52-minute deals that they probably aired at some point
on Golf Channel or something like that.
They're great.
And I started seeing a couple highlights that I'd never seen before.
And they were from Capulua.
And I was like, what the hell is that?
And there was this epic duel between Ernie L's
and Tyler.
Tiger Woods at Capulua in 2000, where they were tied in the 72nd hole.
I think they were like several strokes ahead of everybody else.
Yeah.
They're tied in the 72nd hole.
Tiger rips some long iron or three wood or something to, you know, if everybody's
envisioning the hole, it's kind of a sweeping right to left fairway on the approach.
And you've got to carry a bunch of stuff.
And then the green slopes heavily right to left.
And tiger flings something in there from, you know, very far away.
like I say, he's got a wood or a long iron or something.
And it catches the slope and rolls down to like 15 feet or something for Eagle.
Everybody's going bananas.
Ernie Ells hits one tighter.
Ooh, then Tiger.
Tiger cans his from like 15 feet giant fist pump.
Ernie Els cans his for Eagle.
They go to a playoff.
They tie the first playoff hole.
And then Tiger makes, again, I think it's on the second playoff hole.
He makes like a 25 footer for Bertie and just gives a giant fist pump.
and I was like, how the fuck have I never seen this before?
That's crazy.
It was an incredible highlight got me all jacked up.
So if you haven't seen it, go look it up.
I think it was the year 2000.
I think it was Tiger against Ernie.
And it was at the tournament of champions.
The highlights are incredible.
It was also like a weird reddish shirt for Tiger for a Sunday that I had never really
seen before, you know, because occasionally does that weird thing where it's got like a
hint of red.
It's not like a hardcore red shirt.
Yeah.
But anyways, that got me fired up for this tournament.
Got me fired up for this course in Hawaii.
Speaking of Hawaii, it's going to be a little segue here.
They always do the family thing.
They all bring their families out there.
Of course, why wouldn't you?
Yeah.
They're always, you can see like when a guy finishes up, he's fishing or he's surfing or he's, he's flying around on something.
Hiking, hiking.
Remember when RIP to Amanda Duffner, but remember when Duff and Amanda were doing like, they did like a whole hiking video?
Oh, they did.
Where they're like up in the fucking mountains of Hawaii.
That makes me sad to think about those two.
You know, it's not going to make you sad.
Jordan Speeth got engaged.
He did.
Congratulations to Jordan Spieth and Annie Verrett, I believe.
was her name? Is that her name? They've been dating for a long time.
I believe she was an old school
Barstle smoke show. I have heard rumblings
of that as well. Yeah, I've never proven it or seen
it proven, but people just say that all the time, so I just
said it out loud. But anyway, what are your
thoughts on a guy like Jordan's been
getting engaged? Because I know there have been
people in this office who have had controversial takes
about professional athletes getting married
at such a young age, which you can, I can
see, kind of see both sides of it. Which side are you
on? The one thing I would say is that
what is Jordan Speed? 24 now?
Yes. Or is he 23 still.
Jordan Spieth were typing into the Google machine
Let's see off past our internet is
He's 24. He's 24. So he turned 24 in July.
Here's the thing. He's a very, very mature and very old 24.
That's true.
Had Jordan Speed just come on tour like a year ago and got popular
And then was getting engaged right away, I'd be like, that's crazy town.
24, he feels like he's been on tour for like 10 years.
He's got three majors.
He's got the hairline of a guy who's like 40.
He's got a hairline that was very bad, but I believe has been progressing in the last year or so.
Yeah, he's got the little bros.
on thing going on where it's somehow getting better whether that's you know by outside means or
right somehow and air quote i'm doing air quotes yeah for all of you this isn't a visual
podcast um but i you know if if again if he was like a year out or if he was a really really young 24
but he's not he's an old 24 he's experienced the way he carries himself the way he talks to the media
um the way that he's always been um so inspiring and all that with his family and he's always had this
great perspective and all that that him at 24 now with all the experiences that he's had all the
success that he's had, how long it feels like he's been one of the top dogs on tour, I'm fine
with this. Yeah, just to play devil's advocate a little bit, it does seem strange when you are on top
of the world, on top of your world, have so much money, you've got all this time ahead of you,
you're on spring break trips with your buddies. It does seem like a strange time to just be like,
all right, I'm going to get locked down, but also his other friends are all now dating or engaged
as well. So they're kind of the crew now that they're not a bunch of single guys, they're not the
rat pack. They're just, they're almost like they're steady,
older, mature gentleman who just happened to be like 25 years old.
Yeah, even Ricky, you know, he had that cool picture from the Rider Cup a couple years ago
where he was kind of a single guy and then even he's now all pretty much wiped up.
Smiley's tied down.
So, yeah.
Once your rat pack goes down, you kind of got to go down.
Right, because then you become the weird guy who's just like, oh, I'm going to try and get all
these girls and they're just like, all right, well, we're going to go back and drink wine and
watch, you know, reality TV.
You either got to, right, you either got to find and lock down a girl or you've got to move to a new city and
and find a new group of buddies.
It's true.
That's like, those are literally your only two options.
So congratulations to Jordan Spieth.
You know, maybe we'll get an invite to the wedding.
We broke the news.
We did.
We probably won't get invites.
We did.
We broke that.
I was a little drunk over vacation and somebody sent that picture in.
And I put a caption on it that was like, wow, we lost a good man, blah, blah.
And they were, it did really well on Twitter and Instagram.
But there were people that these losers, these absolute virgins that come out of the clouds on Twitter.
Like, oh, yeah, wow, a guy that's, uh,
very mature and commit to a woman is such a loser.
I'm like, shut up, you dork.
Come on, that's just a joke people make.
Hey, we lost a good man, you know, the whole thing.
People suck.
Yeah, a bunch of losers.
Tiger Woods posted a new blog, getting in the blog game.
Tiger Woods is sneaky.
You've been in the blog game for a long time.
He's not only sneaky in the blog game.
He's a long-winded blogger.
Like, he writes very long blogs.
He might write a couple times a year he writes a blog that's longer than any blog I've ever written.
And we're professional bloggers.
It's true.
He is like, he doesn't, you think with a guy like Tiger, when he gets a,
has very short answers.
He doesn't reveal too much.
When you put a laptop in front of him,
he just kind of, he just let it.
It's like the Kermit gift.
Where does it type and type and typing, type and type in?
Great gift.
That's one of my favorites.
My favorite use of that gift was Taylor Swift last time she broke up with somebody who was
the last person she broke up with.
Who is that?
Who's that the, what's his name?
Tom something.
Oh, it was Tom.
Tom Hittleston.
There you go.
Hittleston?
Tom something.
Somebody wrote a live look at.
Taylor Swift in the writing room or something after the breakoff.
Yeah.
It was just, there just cranking it.
It gets a laugh out of me 10 out of 10 times.
The guy's name's Tom Hiddleston, by the way.
Is that it?
Yes.
So Tiger Woods, let me ask you this.
You think he writes these blogs in one sitting?
Or do you think that's over the course of, like, several hours of, like, gathering his thoughts,
or maybe a couple days he contributes to it?
Because he covers, like, 11 different topics.
I think he comes back to it.
He writes a little bit and comes back to it.
Because it is very scatterbrained.
It's very scatterbrained.
He shouted out Kobe in this one.
Gives like a Kobe shout out.
He's talking about his foundation.
He's talking about playing golf with Justin Thomas and them and betting.
He didn't say denominations this time.
He said a couple bucks, which I noticed.
Maybe he's a forplay guy.
He's got a little self-conscious.
He listened to it.
He's like, I've used that too much.
I got to switch it up.
Or Riggs is going to get mad of me.
Nice little change up there, Tiger.
I see you.
I see you listen to the pod.
He said, I think he said I quote, I've reached another level.
He gave a little, a couple hints towards, it's 2018.
saying that he would be at the Genesis Open at Riviera one way or another.
That's such a tiger thing to say.
Which means he's obviously going to be there.
The guy that's healthy and just played and looked really good a month ago,
The Hero World Challenge isn't going to show up as like an honorary.
I can't play golf guy.
He's going to be there.
That's how you took that?
That's how you took that?
No, I'm taking that as reality.
What do you mean?
Well, I'm saying he was saying it like, well, I'll be there whether I'm playing or not.
And my thing is like he's not going to show up.
he's not going to go.
Like, he will not be there and not be playing.
He'll be playing.
See, I took it the other way.
I took it as like, he's like keeping the door open and be like,
maybe I'm not going to play.
Yeah, no, I think that's what he's like trying to do with the media play,
but in reality, like that, that's not going to happen.
Okay.
The guy didn't play golf a month ago and is going to show up to Riviera and not play in the event.
Okay.
I'm glad you're that confident.
Oh, yeah.
I'm 100% confident.
Okay.
I've already written multiple blogs about his schedule.
I know exactly what his schedule is going to be.
He's going to play Tori Pines in, I,
I believe it's 23 days.
He's going to have a couple weeks off.
Then he's going to play Riviera and then back to back
because he's going to go over to the Honda Classic
and then he's going to have another couple weeks off and then go play Bay Hill.
And then the Masters is about three weeks after that.
I do think there's a good chance he adds somewhere in between there
because he can't get into the WGCs because he's ranked like number 700 in the world
or 650 something I think is what he's at.
He's got to be 50 or lower for I think the match play is like obviously top
64 or whatever.
but I believe that the other one is top 50 and he's nowhere near that.
So anyways, he gave and gave a back fusion shout out on this thing.
He said, my back is fused and that's as far as it's going to go.
I guess that just means it's good and it's there and it's stable and I'm going to be fine.
Yeah, he's fused up.
He's more machine than man now, Trent.
He really, I know he probably doesn't listen to the podcast.
Maybe he does because he's still talking about fusion.
And I know that's the last surgery he had, but the fusion thing is very funny that he just keeps talking about it.
It's great.
Tiger Fusion Woods. That's our guy. I mean, he's fucking back. He's a machine now. He's literally a machine. He's the Darth Vader. He's the Terminator. He's Tiger Woods. He's fused up. He's half machine, half man. It's great. His Kobe congratulations was kind of a hot take. He said, I've been a dire legate's fan since I was just a little kid. He's probably the Magic Johnson. Wow. I couldn't believe when I saw that. Taking shots. I feel like him and Magic are probably good friends too. So the next time I see each other, he's going to be like, what the fuck, Tiger? Yeah, taking a little dig at magic. I like that. So yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaking of exciting, you know, we're all getting amped up about Tiger.
We just kind of want to talk about general 2018 expectations.
We got a great list this year in terms of venues.
We got the Masters, obviously, at Augusta.
We got the U.S. Open at Shinnecock, which is just about an hour and a half out on Long Island from us.
We've got the Open Championship at Karnusti, one of, in most people's opinion, the hardest track on the Open Rota.
and then we've got the PGA championship
in my hometown of St. Louis, Missouri at Belle Reeve.
And then the Ryder Cup, obviously, is in France,
which, you know, whatever.
I don't really care.
I don't have any feelings about France.
What do you think about France?
I'm pretty neutral in France.
I think there's a good chance we're going to be at that.
I mean, I hope so.
That would be something.
I think there's a good chance we're going to be at that.
I did have a discussion about being at that,
and it was with a coworker of ours from the second floor,
but it was a drunken discussion at the Christmas party.
Okay.
So I don't know how much weight it really cares.
Gotcha.
But I should probably send a follow-up email.
You should do that.
You know, you have a few drinks.
You start talking about ideas,
and these things can become concrete,
so you never know.
I need to carry around a Frankie Borelli notebook
and write down these ideas that I have.
You do the drunken conversation ideas that I have.
You just do the notes on your phone.
Yeah, I know.
Well, you kind of talk to it.
It just doesn't feel as, like, regal, you know?
Oh, no, it doesn't.
It certainly doesn't.
But it's...
You feel like a little, like,
millennial bitch.
Yeah, I mean, but it gets the job done
when you need it when you're drunk at the Christmas party.
Yeah.
It's just a more badass move.
notepad and you start writing it.
You got to lick the tip of the pen.
Yeah.
Here we go.
All right.
What about,
what about like a voice?
What about like a voice recording?
You like hold something.
Oh,
yeah.
And you like just chat.
What movie is that?
What I'm trying to think of it.
Uh,
ah, shit.
I can't think of who does that.
I can't either.
They do it all the time.
Oh,
it's a great little, like,
it's like a silver little like voice recorder.
It's going to drive me.
Oh, man.
That's driving.
The listeners are just like these fucking idiots because they're screaming at us.
They are right now.
The voice recorder.
Fuck, we'll think of it.
Whatever.
Anyways, it's going to be a great year.
My expectations, just we're trying to keep this very general.
My expectations are, so I looked up, I think, eight of the last nine major championship
winners have been first-time winners.
Jordan Speath was the exception with the Open Championship this past year.
I think this year and next year we're going to see a massive trend in the other direction
because these guys are going to start to compile major championships.
It does feel that way.
I would agree with that.
You know, I think these guys, we got the DJs, we got the Justin Thomas's.
We've obviously got the Jordan Speeds, even Jason Day.
The buzz right now on all the golf sites is that nobody's going to win anything because Ricky's going to win everything.
So yeah, the buzz is, well, Ricky would obviously be an exception to that.
Buzz is the buzz before every season at this point.
Until he wins, that's what it's going to be like.
Yeah, I mean, his showing down to the Bahamas, of course, he shot, was it a 61?
Yes.
on Sunday.
So he's got a ton of buzz.
That's just one tournament.
But people, you know, people are doing the old.
This is going to be Ricky's breakout year.
He's finally going to win a major.
Wouldn't surprise me.
He's going to win one at some point.
So, you know, this year is as good a chance as any.
But I do, I think we're going to start getting into where, you know,
at least two or three major winners a year are going to be repeat winners.
Guys are going to start to stack these up.
We're going to start getting into, you know, over the next five or ten years,
really get into kind of career comparisons.
who's going to win more majors, that type of stuff.
We have talked about this before, and it kind of alludes to what you were just talking about is,
Rory's got to have a decent year at least, right?
Yeah.
Otherwise, we're kind of getting a little bit of trouble.
I know people probably freak out about that.
I be like, he's still, he's the same age as I am, so he's like 28.
He's going to be fine.
He's got a long career ahead of him.
We just need to see something out of Roarie.
Yeah, because he's gone three seasons now majorless after winning back to back.
Yeah, 2014 was Rory's year.
We thought he was going to light everybody on fire forever,
and then it just kind of dropped off Speed that,
2015, 2016 wasn't his year either.
So he's got to show me something.
I'm never going to write him off because I'm a big fanboy of his, but he's got to do something.
Yeah, he did, you know, he won the FedEx Cup, not this past year, but the year before.
So it's not, you know, it's not like it's not like it's just stinks.
Right.
We do live in a time where it seems like it always seems like things are going as badly as possible,
but it's really not that bad.
But I do need to see something.
I had a pretty infamous text or tweeting rant about defending Rory a couple weeks ago that we
talked about on the podcast.
So I'm all in on that.
Which I ended up defending Jordan Spieth in that.
Yeah.
Which was kind of a little bit of a role reversal for us.
Trading places, definitely.
But yeah, Rory, I mean, all those guys right there in the mix, again, it does be like, you know, the one guy in that crew that hasn't won a major now is Ricky.
So him winning would be great.
And I think he's going to win multiple.
So him getting that first one, then he can start to add to what I'm talking about, which are guys that are going to start stockpiling major championships and starting to kind of get into that where are you going to rank among, you know,
some of the top golfers of all time and all that with obviously speed's already got three
Rory's got four.
It feels like JT's going to be good for a long time.
He's got four.
He's got four.
He's got four.
You know what?
People forget that.
People most definitely forget that Rory has four.
John Rom probably going to have a good year.
John Robb's in there.
There's a lot of good guys.
I mean, it really is.
It's,
God,
I don't feel like I've been this excited about a golf season on the PGA tour in a really long time.
And even take the tiger stuff completely that of it.
I know.
Which you add that and we're talking about.
shit but everything else i mean
it's going to be a great year no matter what
it's and it sucks i don't want to
you know we don't want to keep spewing the same narrative
that a lot of other people work to be doing good for golf
blah blah blah this bullshit but it's true man
there are so many good players a lot of guys latch on to
i hope that john rom
uh keeps it up and
you know even elevates himself starts to compete
in some majors because i think he's got a little bit
he's got a lot of that fire and even a little bit of like he
kind of comes off as a villain yes during um you know during
especially like the final round of some intense
intense moments. He starts yelling.
He starts bitching his golf ball.
It might take a swing at his caddy one of these days.
Love that. Golf needs a villain.
Golf absolutely needs a villain. It's the only thing missing.
There was nothing better than when you knew
like Tiger hated Phil.
Hated him. And they would be battling, coming down the stretch.
Obviously, it didn't happen that often, but it happened.
And you knew, you know, you could just sense that him.
Vijay didn't love each other. And then, you know, you got these other guys coming out
and graduate themselves.
congratulating each other on the green after they win events.
Sure, it's beautiful.
Sure, it's lovely.
From a viewer's competitive standpoint, it fucking sucks.
I want these guys to hate each other.
And I feel like John Rom, not that he hates these guys, these guys don't hate him.
But when he's out there and he's in the mix and he gets really fiery, it's awesome.
Yeah.
It's absolutely awesome to watch.
And we do think, we think Rory's got a little bit of that villain in him too.
Oh, I do.
I very much think that.
He's just got to get his game back and be healthy.
He was hurt for most last year.
He fucked up his rip early in the season.
So, you know, if he's fully healthy, I think he can be,
he would never admit to being the villain,
but he's like, he's the European.
He's the guy who he doesn't hang out with those guys.
And you can tell, I mean, that's what makes the Rider Cup great, right?
Like all that tension, all that animosity.
You can tell, you can tell Rory's got some of that villain in him, too,
because of the way that he reacted at the Rider Cup
when it was him against Patrick Reed.
He was telling the crowd to shush.
And again, I'm not sitting here saying that these guys are going to,
you know, whatever, go cut each other's, you know, breaks at night and stuff
trying to hurt each other.
Because obviously him and Patrick Greeter giving each other high-fives after that and stuff.
But you can tell.
He had, I think Rory, too, had some comments during the 2014 PGA when they were playing up in the dark.
If everybody can remember that event where, you know, he said I didn't really want to, like, walk up and be buddy, buddy with these guys.
I was trying to fucking win.
Like, I was focused on winning.
That was the Phil and Ricky thing, right?
Yes.
Yeah, when they were fist bumping and all that.
Yep.
And so you know he's got a little bit of that in him.
He's like, I don't want to be buddy-buddy.
I'm trying to win fucking majors.
So we need more of that from Rory.
We need a villain.
God, we could use a villain.
Tiger, hopefully can fill that.
Would that be something?
I mean, he's very, very buddy-buddy.
Now he talks about all the time, like,
I like being with the boys.
Yeah.
It would be great if he just, he, like, he, like,
he, like, he, like, re-captured his old talent.
And he's like, well, fuck, I'm not going to be friends with anybody.
I think inside the ropes, he will.
Yeah.
Like, in the heat of the moment, he ain't going to be, you know,
you're not going to see him fist bump and Justin Thomas.
Like if Tiger buries a 40-foot put to take a one-stroke lead on 17 and JT's in his group
And that's who he's, you know, they're not going to be like, oh, great shot, fist bomb a tight back.
Not to fuck you get the hell out of it.
Not to be too woken.
Maybe that's when it's playing all the time.
Will all these guys asleep, hey, let's be friends, let's be friends.
And then no.
Keep your friends closer.
Keep your enemies closer, Trent.
That's what people say.
That's it.
I also think this is a little off the beaten path for storylines.
But I think I'm ready for Daniel Kang to become like an international superstar.
You're right.
This is going to be a big year following her.
Huge year following her.
her for us. She is, she feels like a marketing dream. She's very good. She's very funny. She's
very personable. She's very relatable. I don't understand how she's not a bigger star already,
but I think this is her year where she's going to blast off. You're right. She did get her
first win was a major, the LPGA championship. I would love to see her take down a U.S.
Open or a British Open. Let's, let's go, Daniel. Let's emerge. Let's become a giant superstar
in the lady golf world. And let us like just ride, just let us get on board. The people's ladies
golfer people's women's golfer whichever you want she's both she's everything she's great so it's
it's going to be a good year it's going to be a massive year we're going to now bring in frankie burelli
for from the gallery all right it's time for from the gallery we have brought in our guy frankie
bruelly the pizza maker hello boys hey frankie what's up 2018 frank how you feeling i'm feeling good
i'm feeling juiced up for this one yeah i was like missing it where's your oh you got your
notebook out are you kidding me all right notebook looks good that's getting a couple pages deep
it is kind of a tough look at first when you go through the notebook and you're on page one
You know, I doodled in the top right corner of, like, the second page, and I'm thinking about ripping it out, but it's a solid page of writing.
Because I don't want doodles in this.
Yeah.
No, I accidentally doodles.
So, like, when I'm going through my pages now, I see a doodle in the top right of one page, and it pisses me all.
No, I think if they went through, like Da Vinci's notebooks, he had a bunch of doodles.
I want to clean notebook.
No.
The Vinci? I feel like Davenci was a big, big doodler.
Yeah.
I think doodles look good at notebook.
It's like, you got a messy, busy mind.
Yeah, you know what I would do is I would spend, like, an hour, maybe one of the dougalier.
day and go through the first like 15 pages and scribble a bunch of like combo of words and
doodles that don't really mean anything just because it looks better if you're like halfway
through a notebook when you're at the beginning of a notebook the whole part of a journal is when
someone finds it how are they going to think of you as a person right so it's like you don't
cover like secrets of them or do you see like what kind of light they have so are you running your
journal with the like with the intention that someone will find it read it yes that's not a bad
that's if you so if you take riggs's advice they're going to think you're a crazy person for
the first i'm trying to be neat i'm trying to be like this kid was a robot
Okay, interesting. I don't know why.
No, I do feel like if you're going to do a journal, the smart move is to do it with the intention that it's like a best-selling book and everyone's like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just to be published.
Like it's already neat.
Just fucking copy the pages and it's it.
People would be buying the book like, what's the fuck with this doodle?
Right.
But then the cool part about it is everybody thinks like, oh, Frankie just was saying this to himself and like, wow.
But in reality, you know what you're doing.
I used to do this when I was younger.
I used to like draw stuff like really nice stuff.
I'm fucked up.
I used to draw stuff like nice stuff about my parents just in case like anything happened me.
They'd find like nice stuff that I was drawing.
Would you plant it?
You should plant it?
Oh, I did.
That's right by the stove when mom's cooking.
No, but I'd like draw like me, mommy and dad and like I'd put it under my bed.
Like one day like someone will find this when I'm dead.
That's genius.
All right.
Welcome back to Foreplay podcast.
We're all back from break.
Frankie, you're something, pal.
Frankie, you played golf over break, didn't you?
I did.
And it was fun.
I was in Florida.
That's right.
None of we, I didn't play golf.
Riggs, you skied a lot.
I was skiing.
I did.
I was in the mountain skiing.
Shout to my guy Ryan who saved me about 300.
50 bucks with lift tickets.
Wow.
He's a big patron.
Awesome.
Lives out in the Vale, Beaver Creek area.
I was out there at my parents.
He gave me a couple tickets.
It saved me a bunch of money.
It was unreal.
You were saying a little bit that you are now.
It's exposed now that you are a very white person.
Yeah, I do.
I have the two most expensive white hobbies.
We were saying, me and you and Kevin were saying, what could you add as a third to make it really complete?
You said polo and maybe proke.
And I said big game hunting in Africa.
Yeah.
Anything that you do with that.
But skiing and golf.
Pretty white.
And the cherry on top is the Harvard, but I don't know if we have to get.
I mean.
Yeah.
So I mean, right.
I'm pretty.
I'm pretty straight.
I'm living a pretty white life.
I'm like, yeah, correct.
How is Florida?
I got a white privilege life going on.
Well, you played golf in Florida.
Yeah, we couldn't have had more opposite weeks.
No.
Because it was 85 degrees.
It was nice and sunny.
Shout out to the stooleys that had messaged me to play.
I'm going to say this now.
I was not confident in my game going down to Florida.
I felt it.
So I respect.
What is your line?
You always say butternize?
I was golf,
Butternives.
in my hand. I was not only holding
butter knives. I was holding an entire collection
of silverware. I mean
it was, I had
gone to the range my first day down there.
I'm like, let me hit like the range like real quick
right when we land. Just see
how I am. Then I'll answer the DMs. I'll try and go
on these like really nice golf courses. Because no one
wants to be like a guest of songs. Especially on a
golf podcast. Yeah. Like, oh, look at
Frankie's. There's a lot of added pressure.
When you're a golf podcast guy
and that's why people bring you out. When I play with your
buddies, it's like, fuck man.
I'm playing like shit.
Dude, I haven't played well all the year.
I've had a bad year ago.
This was my worst year of first T-shots in my career.
Right.
Those are the added pressure.
Right.
And like you have all these people watching you and it fucking sucks.
Yeah, it does.
Like then they tweet at you and shit.
They're taking all these nice golf courses that fucking sucks.
It does.
Anyway, we complain about a lot of shit on this podcast.
We do.
You know what?
Champagne problems.
Oh, anyway, Frank.
So I didn't accept any of the invitations.
So I ended up playing.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I ended up playing.
You coward.
I know.
Jesus Christ.
You are such a coward.
I know.
Only because you were carried a whole, you know, cabinet full of silverware.
A whole drawer.
A whole entire drawer.
My plan was to play one round public at a really nice golf course that was by me, which was always my plan to play this one place.
Shout out Jackaranda Golf Club and plantation.
Real nice place.
They have an east and the west course.
I played the west course.
Real nice track.
And then I was going to see how I did.
Because now there's a difference to him hitting the range and hitting the golf course and maybe I would find my game.
Did not find my game.
Hitting houses, hitting everything, pulling balls into the houses, murdering swans and everything, right?
I was playing bad.
Swans are big in Florida.
Yeah.
But I did actually play with a stooly there.
This kid, Corey, he plays college golf.
The kid was striping the ball.
So this guy, like, reach out to you?
No, we just, I was a single, went out by myself, met up with these two guys.
This guy, Corey and this guy is Jean from Quebec, old Quebec.
This guy is Jean.
Jean.
Old French Canadian.
We talked hockey.
He's been to the Coliseum in my Islanders.
We really hit it all.
Did he try to convince him that the Rangers Islanders is a bigger rivalry than...
I didn't get into it.
He would have destroyed me with it.
He had this accent.
He whistled.
I was telling you guys, this guy whistled.
He whistled like he was bringing in the animals in Snow White.
Like every time this guy whistled, I thought like a squirrel was going to end up on a shoulder.
He would have toasted you.
He was an unbelievable golfer to.
Anyway, do you have like crazy hockey hair?
Like six.
No, he was old, real thin.
He had awesome, like, um, uh, like the bicyclists.
Those, like, those, like, those glasses they wear.
He, like, wore those.
Like, like, like, the wire-rim glasses?
He wore like, um.
He wore like, um.
He wore, yes.
Yeah.
They're like, they're like goggles.
Yeah, but they had like no bottoms.
Interesting.
Yeah, whatever.
Anyway, cool dude.
Um, Corey was a great golfer.
Shout out to him.
Um, I mean, his buddies were like chirping me after the,
round like I heard you were getting out drove all day today.
I was like, fuck, Corey.
I mean, he like went to all his friends and said like, I mean, he was out driving me.
And he's just chirping the shit?
Just chirping the shit out of me.
You were playing like shit still?
I was playing like shit.
This kid stepped up to the fucking T.
I hit a fucking three.
I had a drive.
I crushed this drive.
Everyone's like, and John's like, ooh.
In the back, yo, no joke.
I'm like, it's going over the bunker.
It's going over the bunker.
It just hits the sand, right?
I'm like, fuck.
That was my best drive of the day, right?
It's sand trap right in the middle of the fairway.
Fucking Corey steps up with a three.
freewood and demolishes a ball, draws it right over, and John goes, now that's how you do it.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
I like, what the fuck?
I had a horrible day.
So that was the first.
Your game's very perplexing, Frank, because you have such a nice swing.
Every time I post your swing on Instagram, people are like, Jesus, Frank, you're with beautiful swing in the office.
See, like, it's true.
I'd say my last, like, seven rounds I've been shooting really bad.
I don't know what it is.
You look so good doing it.
Your action's great.
You just, I don't know.
Every time you're like, yeah, I just didn't put.
like shit. I'm like, well, you look good.
But the problem is that my iron game is so inconsistent because I just don't get to do it enough.
Are you driving the ball well still?
I'm driving the ball, okay.
But it's the iron game, man.
It's like left and right.
I can't put it where I want it.
And to be honest, like, I mean, it's those fucking mats.
I think the mats at the driving rate, I think they ruined my life.
I cannot make a divot anymore.
You have a big mental thing against the mat.
I can't make a divot anymore because the fucking mats have, you're afraid there's like concrete underneath it or something?
No, they just like, they've,
crafted my swing to just picked all ball.
You bottom out of the ball now.
You're not bottom and out through the-
I don't, yeah, I do not, I like,
I like hit the ground first when I try and do it.
I don't hit the ball.
It's a mess.
I hit a lot of thin shot, too.
It might be the mats.
It is the mats.
Can you imagine hitting 150 balls every time you go to the range on grass,
like every time?
It would be great.
I would learn how to play golf,
but I don't have that fucking ability
unless I go to the place by my house where I hop the fence.
So the second day
I went to this golf court
Oh so then I decided I'm really not answering any
Right?
Right
I shot like a 92
Like I was like not happy
And the French Canadian
Everybody's chirping the shit
And the guys like
Like just making fun of me
And all this shit
And it was just like
I'm like on vacation
Why am I like putting myself through this
It's like it was like I was being punished
I was like paying for this
Um
For the second day
Did you golf with your dad
Spin Doctor?
No I didn't know
No he wasn't down with me
I would have loved to though
By the way I saw
a tweet, the spin doctor comes in a set
of threes. I didn't know you can get a fucking package.
I saw it. 52 of 56 and a 60.
You can get your whole wedge game
outfitted with the spin doctor? It's insane.
Holy shit. Dude, that video, there's a video
online that somebody hitting like a chip from 10 feet
off the green and spinning it all the way back. If you have not
watched the front doctor instructional
video, you are doing yourself
a disservice. Yeah. If you
listen to the show and you haven't watched that video online
yet, you're not paying attention to the
ball from the back. It'll go through
the green into the rough. And then all of a sudden
like it's on a string, it just comes right back to you.
It's insane.
All right.
So the second day, listen to this shit.
You ready for this?
I've been excited to tell you how fucking dumb I am.
Okay.
So you're on vacation.
You obviously have a bunch of drinks, right?
So I was on golf now.
I don't even know, maybe no free ads.
No, that's fine.
GolfNow.com.
It's great.
Golf now.com.
They have all these hot deals, right?
So I'm like, I'm hammering it all week.
I'm looking for the best deals to golf since I wasn't playing at these premier
country clubs that I was denying access.
to.
Right.
I find this one place that has nice pictures.
I was pretty wasted while I was doing it, right?
And I'm like, this place looks nice.
And I'm like, it was usually 50 bucks and it was like $28.
So I'm like, wow, I can play for $28.
I'm like, let me fucking knock this thing out of the park.
I hit it.
I made a tea time.
I was all excited the next morning.
I drive all the way.
It was about 35 minutes away.
I show up to this golf course.
Now let me tell you guys what I saw when I got there.
There was not one, now this is in Florida.
South Florida, obviously a lot of old people.
When I tell you that I was the youngest person at this golf course by seven decades.
Like there was...
Everyone was 90?
90 or above.
Like using canes, right?
Walking around.
Like it was a retirement home, right?
Yep.
No, not even retirement home.
An assisted living home.
Oh, no.
That's how bad this was.
And I'm looking around.
It was so bad that the people that were at the bag check looked at me with a weird, like,
these young kids were like, what the fuck?
is this kid doing here.
So I'm like, all right, what did I just walk into?
Come on.
They put my bag on a cart, and I couldn't see the golf course at this point.
I didn't, I'm like, I'm just at the bag drop.
They're like, I'm like, is there a range?
He's like, yeah, there's a little chipping range just around the corner.
So I drive, I drive.
I'm driving around.
And all there is is just like the clubhouse and like a cart stand.
You don't see the golf course at all.
I pull up to this place where there is a nice chipping area, right?
It's around the green.
and there's a long T-box sort of like so when you show up to like a grass driving range they have like maybe 20 feet long of grass driving range right and it's usually on like a little bit of an elevated surface yeah so I see that and then to the left of it I see a couple of flags I see like bunkers I see a bunch of flags and then to the right I see like maybe 50 or 45 yards away I see like a nice well-crafted hole so I'm like oh it's an awesome right
Little practice range, right?
The one with a lot of flags was maybe 25 yards.
The hole was maybe 50 yards away.
So I can really work on my sandwich game here, right?
So I take a whole bucket of balls.
I dump them on the driving range area, and I start hitting away.
So I start going after the hole.
I'm like, I want to practice hitting on a real hole, not at like a million flags, right?
So I'll maybe like 25 or 30 balls in and some old man drives up to me and goes,
What the fuck are you doing?
No, Frankie.
He said, what the fuck you do?
He literally said, what the fuck are you doing?
And I'm like, what?
He's like, you're like just blatantly hitting balls on the seventh hole.
Oh, God.
So I'm like, what the fuck are you talking?
I'm literally like, looking around.
Like, what are you talking about?
He's like, you're just hitting balls all over the golf courts.
I'm like, this is the record.
You know what?
This is the fucking Borrell.
He's at it again.
I'm like, this is a record.
You're like, buddy, do you know my background?
I do this on Long Island all the time.
He's like, you're just on the hole.
I'm like, but I'm not.
He's like, is the practices.
I'm like, he goes to practice still.
He's like a little chipping area.
You're on the T-box for the hole.
Like, what are you hitting at?
He's yelling at me.
Well, you were on a T-box?
Like an actual T-box?
What I'm telling you is that it looked like the-
Did it have two T-markers on it?
No.
I'm like, I'm like screaming into this.
It's fine.
No, it did not.
It was just a long T-box of grass.
So basically, there's,
Oh, the best part is I was at a par three course.
Oh.
I accidentally purchased a par three course.
I wonder how it had a great price.
Right.
And the hole was 65 yards away.
Jesus Christ, Frankie.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Because that's the seventh hole.
And now all people start driving up all these old people.
And like the women are looking.
I'm not kidding, guys, when I say that I left like 37 balls on this on this green, right?
So like I panic.
And I'm like, I don't want to play a par three course.
Why am I?
I'm like, I'm like.
I'm like.
I love that that's your panic because I don't want to play a part three.
You just put 40 golf balls on a green.
Well, he just seventh hole at fucking rinks.
He does this all the time.
I'm telling you how close.
So.
Del Boca Vista now there.
I'm telling you how close this hole was to the practice facility.
Right.
And for people, if you want to like, if you know this place, it's called the bridges at Springtree Golf Club.
It's called the bridges.
The bridges.
It's called the bridge.
It's called the bridge.
The bridge of life.
It's like you're bridging from life to death.
Bridge to heaven.
Yeah.
It's literally one.
I am not kidding.
where there is this practice facility
and it looks like the practice facility is perfectly
adjacent to where this long T-box was.
So the actual hole now,
the T-box goes straight
front to center. But for the practice facility
I looked like it went left to right, like a normal
driving range and that's how long it was. So I'm
up there. I'm taking divvits.
I'm spraying balls all over the place.
And what I did was, I went
to my golf cart and the guy
was looking at me. He like drove away
I think to go yell at me, right? To go
like tell on me. Yep. I took my golf
bag and I went to my car and I left.
Yeah, that's the move. Just get that out. Oh, yeah.
Did you check in or anything? Oh, yeah.
So I had a teetot in like five minutes and I just
So they had your name and shit though. Oh yeah. My name's
there. My golf now things there. I'm probably going to hear from law enforcement.
I mean, I legitimately looked like a crazy person. I held my bag for the first couple
steps where I was hugging my bag running.
Like I was, I took the bag. I didn't put it over my shoulder. I took the bag off the golf
cart sprinted across a fairway to the parking lot.
Put him in my trunk and sped away.
I peeled out.
I went back on golf now and booked a golf course, the golf club at Emerald Hills,
and I played a great round.
Had a great time.
Holy shit, Frankie.
Frankie Borrelli, the name, can't even be whispered at the point.
How do the Borrellas disrespect golf, I mean, almost every single time.
Right, you were going to do that segment, and you just walked right into it.
If we get invited to go play courses, we're not be able to use your real name.
It's crazy, dude.
You're like a celebrity that checks in hotels.
Right.
I didn't want to do this.
I didn't want to do this.
Were you like, it never even crossed your mind that this was a real golf hole?
When I tell you that, I didn't even know this is a part three course.
So why would there ever be a 60-yard hole, right?
So I'm like, this is with, and they were so close.
The bunker to the practice facility, quote, unquote, is almost touching the real hole.
So I'm like, oh, this is all just one fucking thing.
It was like in a specific area on one side of the golf.
Now I need, I need a visual evidence.
I wish you would like take a picture of it.
You know what?
We'll get a satellite.
You can do a, yeah, you can do like Google or if there's,
or if we have any 98-year-old listeners who live at the bridges.
Yeah.
Please.
A bunch of young kids.
Who are out there bridging from when you're really old to then when you die.
There has to be a school in Florida that knows one of the kids that were,
because they were all like college age kids that looked at me like I mean, I was the youngest person by years.
Also, bad guys are always big platrons.
So I would be surprised.
Some of those guys, they know what's going on.
So I had myself.
Christ.
Frank, you probably never, ever disappoint.
Yeah, kind of a pretty unsuccessful golf trip to Florida.
Well, I played great after that, that day at Emerald Hill.
I played with this guy, this guy, oh, I have it, Julio, Ryan, and Ricardo.
It was a nice foursome.
That's great.
You had some interesting, kind of a little exotic meetup with a bunch of different people.
And you know what they did that?
Maybe, oh, big pet peeve that I came across.
Okay.
Oh, here we go.
If you fucking, if I buy a teetan that comes to the golf cart,
don't put me in someone else's golf cart that I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
Somebody sent a, yeah, somebody sent him from the gallery.
I mean, they, like, put me in Julio's golf cart.
And, like, he had to drive me around.
And, like, we had totally different games.
He played from, like, the Emerald T's, which were, like, wait.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
So me and, oh, this is the longest golf course in America that I was, I sent you as.
Oh, the longest golf hole.
Golf course in, and Florida, longest golf hole, I think, in, like, public golf course.
How long was the 18?
682 yards.
Holy shit.
How did you play?
So, we actually played the Emerald T's.
Yeah, you got to you, right?
Because we're playing the longest out of course in Florida.
So me, Ryan, and Ricardo played the Emerald T's just to have fun.
Julio's like up in the women's teas or something.
He played like the whites, which were like four T's ahead.
Jesus.
He was like white, black, blue, emerald.
Like, we had a great time playing from the back.
It was so much fun.
Usually they give you your own cart.
Usually, like you and Julio would have your own cart.
I was matched with the guy who was playing the whites.
So it's like then he was driving up.
I, sometimes.
And like, we're talking, like, it was like, I think it was about like,
a thousand yard difference between the T's.
So it was like half the time I'm running up to go get my golf club
because he just like drove past my T.
Did he ever make any like great wisecracks?
Like, oh, drove you about 30 yards there?
No, I mean, he speaks English.
He didn't speak English.
It was what, you know what?
It was a fucking horrible trip.
Yeah, for golfing.
We'll have to, you got to work on your trips.
I've really kind of perfected it.
So you come talk to me.
I'm pretty good.
He really has.
All right.
Is that all you got, Frank?
Yeah.
We're going to jump into a couple from the Galsals.
from folks. That was great, Frank.
That was, that is.
I didn't know where you were going with the bridges and you.
I mean, I love that it came full circle to you leaving 40 golf balls in
Walmart.
I know.
It's like time is a flat circle with Frankie Burrell.
I mean, I couldn't go pick him up.
No.
I didn't know who that man went to go get.
You pulled the classic bear hug your bag and run out of there.
When I picture you running to your car, hugging your golf bag, you know the scene in
Seinfeld where they're like getting chased in motorized wheelchairs?
You can chase on the street?
That's exactly what I'm picturing.
Yeah.
All the scooter club.
Scooter Club.
Yes.
A couple from the galleries here.
First one is a little Augusta National.
We had a good chat last time on the last show about Augusta.
I believe it was, would you go all the way down to Augusta to play one hole?
And if you did, which hole would it be?
Now we got a couple of follow-ups.
This one was really good.
This is a stipulation, basically.
So the question is, would you go all the way down and play Augusta?
but the stipulation is that you're playing the member's T's,
which is about 6,400 yards,
and if you shoot 95 or higher,
you can never play golf ever again, ever.
So you get to play Augusta.
It's great.
It's, you know, everybody's big bucket list,
maybe the hardest course to get on in America and the world.
But if you don't play up to a certain level,
you can never play golf ever again.
Frank?
I mean, I, no way.
How can you do that?
how much fucking pressure would be on you when you're playing that round.
Yeah, I agree.
I also said no.
So then, Trent?
I don't know.
Yeah, you're all.
I mean, if you have a bad front night, it's like you start trembling.
It's like, I'm never, it's my last round ever.
And it's just too young.
So then the question becomes, like, what would your number be that you would have to, like, what would you be confident that you could break?
I think a fair one would be.
That you would do it.
That it's, like, risky enough that, like, you're getting to play a gun.
Augusta National.
It's like, it's awesome.
But obviously, Augusta wouldn't make this deal with the devil if you could shoot like
150.
I've got Augusta.
Let's pretend like Augusta has a say in this hypothetical.
I'd like to say 100 because like you can play really bad and still shoot under 100.
That's what I think.
Like I think I could go out there and break 100 like no problem.
I think I could bring 95 probably no problem.
But like 90, like I have not broken 95 recent enough that I like wouldn't.
I wouldn't like never play golf ever again.
again, never is not worth much in the world.
Obviously, they would never be able to, like, patrol us.
That's why it's a hypothetical.
But I almost wish Augusta would do something like this.
They'd be like, or you can never play Augusta ever again.
No, you could never play golf ever again.
Or, okay, but here's then, then I was, I got into this debate with somebody at a bar.
And then we were saying, okay, let's say you take the hypothetical thing out of it that you can ever play golf again.
Let's say if you don't break 95, you owe Augusta National 250 grand.
Damn.
And like, you can, you could take a lot.
a loan like it's a college loan or something, but what's the upside?
You get to play Augusta National, and as long as you just break 95, you just went down,
you played Augusta for free, you got the whole amenities, you got to hit the practice range,
you got to get dinner at the clubhouse, you played the whole course, it was awesome.
But if you don't break 95, you owe Augusta 250 grand.
I mean, I'm already pretty in debt, so I might say just say yes, but no, I would still
or some sort of penalty like that.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.
You know, like, that doesn't, that takes it from a hypothetical where like the universe
just doesn't let you play golf anymore.
Yeah.
To like something substantially, you know, punishing.
I mean, I would say no because I am not nearly as good to golf for you guys, but you guys might be.
What would your number be, Trent?
Oh, my God.
I knew it.
That's going to.
Oh, boy.
What do you think my number would be?
Hi.
High.
I think probably in the 120s.
Yeah, I was thinking, well, I'd 120 in my head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The good thing is you can't lose golf balls really out there much unless you hit in some of the water.
But, I mean, you could kind of whack her out.
get up near the green in three or four strokes and then, you know, it's a problem is hit or
the greens.
Yeah.
The greens are crazy.
We saw them in person.
Because I mean, like, you can, you can four put every single hole.
Like, you, like, everyone listening may be like, oh, like me, I'll get to the green
in three and I'll two put and I'll make bogey and, you know, I'll finish with like a
94.
It's like you won't.
I mean, Tiger Woods in his prime one time, putted a ball in the 13th hole into the water.
So, like, Tiger Woods is doing that.
What are we going to do?
We were like, our jaws, like, hit the ground and we saw him at August.
Like, they're insane in person.
Insane.
They swing 100 miles an hour.
Like, I mean, it's crazy.
There's a mound in the middle of the sixth green that's like taller than a human.
Oh, yeah.
Just in the middle of the green.
It really is.
Oh, yeah.
And they're seeing like it.
I remember Sergio, like, stuck it on, he almost stuck it right on top.
And it came down.
Like, even Sergio, who was like freaking playing lights out, couldn't even get on top of that amount.
It was insane.
I really, I really want Augusta to do something like this where.
And then film it would be an unbelievable, like,
they have somebody come down.
They're like, you got to shoot 95 or best.
or blank happens.
I mean, they do, they get down south.
They'll just, like, take you the back of the sheet in the head.
Like, we're going to take you to the back, and we're just going to kill you.
Yeah, that's what you're saying.
Like, Augusta's International Waters.
Yeah.
Augusta does whatever they want at a gun.
So, like, you shoot over 120.
We're just going to murder you.
Right.
That was like when we were at the, we were at the Natty shack and we're having a huge party.
And the guy came out, he's like, I just got off the phone with Augusta.
He said, we got to quiet down.
Like, what do you mean you got to?
First of all, like, miles away.
Right.
What do you mean Augusta?
And he's like Augustin National.
They own everything.
We were like, okay.
The guy was like, we need to be quiet now.
Turned it down.
Okay, foul.
They run that whole town.
Next one, this one really hits home with Frankie Burelli.
This is from pletron Cody, who basically says,
are you an asshole or are you a class act for wearing pants to golf when it's 80 plus degrees out?
I'd like to hear your guys' answers because I am a pants wear.
So this guy's, this guy's email.
was a little bit more specific in the sense that, like,
he basically said my biggest pet peeve is when there's some ass clown out there
who's shooting, like, a hundred, and it's hot as balls out,
and he's got pants on trying to look like he plays the PGA tour.
Okay.
That changes it.
But if you wear pants, it comes with that you're trying to look at you're on the PGA's.
I think it's a great move.
I think it's a classy move.
I think it looks great.
I don't give a shit.
Like, you wear what the hell you want to wear.
I mean, I'm not going to, I mean, I wear pants because I'll get some burn on the back of my legs.
I'm white as shit.
You wear pants because you think it looks.
like it looks pro it looks tall no i wear pants because i would wear i caddied my whole like
put some fucking satan lotion on them's gams and i i don't have great legs wait you just wear pants
because you don't you're like you want your legs to get something i's like like like like i'm it's more
comfortable i don't wear them for the like because i think i look fucking legit fucking way yes i do
out of here i have like you absolutely wear pants because you think it like it looks no you look like
a clanky you're better i just don't wear shorts as much this is a lot it's not a lie i don't like to
where my legs look.
You know,
you wear golf pants
because your legs
gets sunburned?
What are you fucking 90?
No wonder you played
at the bridges.
Yeah,
it's sunburned,
and it's like I have
skinny fucking chicken legs.
I'm like walking around
with shorts on.
All right,
that I would believe
more than you be like
I get burnt on the back of my left.
If I'm playing the black
and I'm like walking,
if I'm playing the Beth Bayes black
I'm walking in the middle.
They make SBF 5000.
Yeah,
but if I'm walking in the middle of the sun
in the middle of August,
I'm like,
I'm,
The first thing I'm thinking is I'm wearing pants today.
Okay.
You're wearing long sleeves too?
Like what are your legs?
For some reason.
For some reason, yes, because I wear pants all the time.
They never touch the sun.
My legs are like vampire legs.
That's preposterous.
I don't believe.
What don't you believe?
I think you just wear them because the same reason.
A lot of people wear pants, golfing.
It just looks cool.
No.
Looks better.
You look classy.
You look like your own tour.
I think there's a picture like on my answering of us all playing like Glenn Oaks and I'm the only one
wearing pants.
because I wanted to look cool.
I think you look like more of an asshole.
I would have thought, I got there thinking I looked like an asshole.
I'm like, this is just what I want to wear because this is like this is what I'm comfortable in,
not because it's what I look like.
I'm telling you.
In that Glenn Oaks picture of all like nine of us, you're the only one wearing pants?
I got to look at that.
There's like just.
That really, I mean, that doesn't prove anyone's point, but probably ours.
Right.
No, because you're telling me that, you're telling me that my intentions are different than what I'm saying.
Yeah, I just don't.
This whole sunburn thing is ridiculous.
You're like 23 years old.
You're worried about like what.
And do you see any sun on me right now?
I just got back from Florida for a week.
You got a little red on the face.
That's because I'm getting angry.
You didn't get that.
You didn't get that tan, to be honest.
I didn't touch the sun.
I wore pants.
You know who else?
He said, uh, the mooch.
Mooch told us.
He's got like three life things.
Three life.
I was because I was like,
mooch.
Wow.
You're like, you're like, you know, whatever 50, but you look like you're like 35.
He's like, yeah, I got three like life.
mantras.
One of the three was, I don't go in the sun.
That's what he said.
What do you mean?
Wow.
I don't go in the...
Oh, fuck.
What?
I looked at the Glen Oaks picture.
Yeah.
Everyone was wearing shorts, including me.
Oh.
I don't like that.
I thought I for sure I wore pants that day.
Well, actually, that's good for you.
I don't know that I've ever seen you not.
Yeah, I can't, like, I don't remember you wearing shorts that day.
I think you've all, yeah, I must have just not even seen your likes that thing.
I may be thinking about the times we played Bayonne, everyone's wear.
I wore those crazy ridiculous.
wear these windy shorts.
I'm in these pants.
My God, I look like a fucking idiot.
Bottom line,
wear pants if you want,
but don't lie about why you're wearing those pants.
I'm telling you.
I'm all about looking good.
Believe me.
Right.
That's why I think,
because you care about this stuff.
You're after like we're crazy
for thinking that that would be into your brain.
Because 99% of the reason anybody wears anything
when they golf is because they think it looks like,
I look legit.
I look like I know what I'm doing.
But maybe I'm crazy.
I genuinely am telling you that that doesn't not go into my head
when I'm wearing pants.
I wear pants because that's just what I know.
We're going to hit a fucking lie detector test going on.
I just don't know.
That's crazy.
Hook me up.
That's how confident I am.
It's actually kind of shocking Barstile H.
U doesn't have a polygraph test.
We don't want to start with that.
That's true.
That's a terrible idea of trend.
We're going to cut that out.
All right.
Next up, we got to get our guy, Rob, in here for a little.
This is one we can actually test.
This isn't just a hypothetical.
This is what we're going to test.
All right.
So we brought Robbie Fox in here, old intern, Rob, old producer Rob.
Yep.
First of all, Rob, Rob, how's life been as non-productive?
of the four-play golf podcast.
Life hasn't been great because I'm not the producer of Foreplay podcast,
and everybody knows that's the number one golf podcast in the world.
When I got removed from this show, life just went downhill.
As you could tell, if you follow Barstool, I did not have a good year.
Just didn't meet any of my idols, didn't go to any events.
So basically, we launch great careers.
We launch great years for people.
All right.
So, Rob, I didn't love the tone of that, by the way.
As a new addition to the four-play pockets, I'd like more respect to Rob's tone there.
Really?
It was a joke there, Jr.
I'm just kidding.
Oh, the junior!
Let's go!
Fireworks.
I didn't realize it, too, you'd be getting at it.
This is great.
You do have, like, a four-play rivalry.
Yeah, that's true.
So we have a little who would win situation in our hands.
First of all, where did this come from?
This come from one of your guys?
No, this came from you.
Or Frankie, I guess.
Was this from you, Frankie?
Yeah.
So the question at hand is
Would Robbie Fox
Who has never played 18 holes before
He says he has once, which was in a scramble.
Yeah, it was a scramble.
So, you know,
In which case you did, you know,
your team used to get them out of your shots.
That was an Avalon.
Yeah, the Avalon Golf Club.
Yep.
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Spitty.
So would Robb,
who has never really played 18 holes before?
but it goes to the driving range, just hit a couple shots, et cetera, et cetera.
Would he be able to beat me playing left-handed?
Now, I am not a left-handed golfer.
I'm a right-handed golfer, but I did play hockey lefty,
so I have some experience with, you know, whatever.
We're at a piece of sporting equipment on my left-hand side.
This one's tough.
This one's really tough for me because some people believe that I would smoke you
and other people believe that you would smoke me.
I don't think anyone would smoke anyone.
I'm not even saying I would beat you.
I just think it would be a close match.
I think it would be a very close match because the thing,
I've never really played 18, but I hit the ball straight.
That's like the one thing I got going for me.
I can hit the ball straight, and putting is abysmal.
You would crush me in that category,
because I think putting left-handed would be fairly straightforward for you.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But I think you would have certain shots where you're trying to tee off
and just not hitting the ball.
So the only saving grace for me is that I have a shot in my bag
where I turn my, I have like a, I have a old school classic, you know, flat putter, very similar
like the putter tiger uses.
That's just like old school.
And I flip it around left handed and I can hit that lefty that it like has a little like
L shape to it almost.
And it works as like loft.
And I just kind of trap it and I can hit it pretty consistently and pretty decent.
So it would really, it would really boil down to like to strategy.
If I just did that around the whole golf course,
I think I would be really tough to beat,
but there might be spots where I just couldn't do that,
in which case, if I had to hit, like, drives.
So you should I drive like that?
Yeah, I would just, yeah.
I mean, I would hit it out there like, I could probably move it out there,
like 120 yards or something.
Wait a minute.
So that would be your strategy going into that round?
I would do that, like, 90% of the time.
I would probably use my putter,
my right-handed putter turned over left-handed,
backwards, left-handed for maybe 100% of my jobs.
I got to be honest.
I know that's like your shot, your go-to.
It would be such a bad look for me.
I guess not because I'm a one-time golfer,
but it would just be like, oh, yeah,
Rob lost to Riggs playing lefty with a putter or 100% of it.
Now, yes, that would be, I would make fun of you forever.
It would be great.
But I think if I wasn't allowed to use that shot,
if I had to use all left-handed clubs throughout the whole bag,
like left-handed clubs and use them properly,
I think you would probably smoke me.
I don't think I would smoke.
The hockey comes into play.
It does.
Without the hockey, I think Bob beat you, like, pretty handily.
Because I think lefty, when I think about swinging lefty, I can't swing great righty.
But when I swing lefty, it's like, it's not even close.
It is literally, though, when you, right, when you try to flip it over and swing the other way,
it is literally like you're a newborn baby that has never done anything athletic ever, never.
I've never tried to, like, you know, right with a pen with your left hand.
It's like, it's madness.
You ever try to jerk off with your off hand.
It's mad.
It's the most embarrassing thing ever.
Yeah.
Yeah, I broke my right hand once.
I had to jerk off the left hand over like two months,
and the first week was horrific.
Yeah.
You do get pretty good at it.
But first week was terrible.
I just, I'm trying to think.
It's like when I was in fucking Scotland,
you had to drive on the left side of the road,
and it was like, I almost killed the whole country.
Because you legitimately, like, you're so,
you're just not even close.
Like, your body is like, what is going on here?
I don't even know.
I often think about that.
If I, I have never gone to Europe,
but if I have to drive over there,
I'd kill everyone.
Because, like, I would just turn onto a road,
drive, like, not pay attention for a,
second the craziest part murder everybody the craziest part is when you're in the left lane you're
driving in the left lane you're driving on the right side of the vehicle yeah in the left lane
and then you turn right across traffic into the left lane on the other side yeah i don't like that
that's insanity i don't want to think about that yeah i just wouldn't drive so right so if you can't
even fucking drive in a car the opposite you know hand or whatever i think about swinging a golf club
the opposite hand is insane
played in Avalon, they said they used a few of your shots.
Like eight or nine.
So that, uh, my cousin's golf constantly.
That were, we're not putts.
Uh, we used like one of my puts.
I think you get it on a green on a part three.
Yeah, it did.
No, his swing's not bad.
We posted a swing before.
It's not bad.
So here is my, my theory is that if I were able to use my little lefty putter shot thing,
if that was like one of the 14 clubs in the other three were all normal left-handed clubs,
I think I would be able to beat you very handedly just because around the greens and stuff
and like understanding the strategy of the game.
where not to miss and stuff like that.
I just,
I think you would,
you would have holes where you would make horrific scores.
Yeah,
there's going to be a couple for Bob
where he makes really,
really bad ones.
And you'd be able to manage
your really, really bad ones.
Right.
I think I'd be able to manage
like doubles and triples
pretty consistently if I had to
and that there would be ties
where you're making a lot of doubles.
Oh yeah.
Bogies are doubles.
And then you'd have like 11s and 12s
and stuff.
And I just think like over the course of the time.
Let's say you have to start using like
wedges lefty.
Like you're looking at like a 10 or an 11
I think it's ugly.
Because you start having to, like, just chip, like, over a bunker, and you're done.
What was the shot?
If I get into a bunker, like, I don't know.
Anything would just touch.
Any touch shot, you're over.
Yeah.
But around the greens, like, I could just use them.
Even I could just use a normal left-handed putter and putter in a little.
Yeah, correct.
But I'm saying, like, you get into the rough and you have to hit one over the bunker or even, like,
left-handed.
I wouldn't even be able to make contact with the ball.
That's fucking.
That's my thing.
I'd put around it.
Right.
So you're there in three.
You're on the green and, like, eight.
What was the shot in the video you did with Page Puranic where, like, you did something wacky before driving and hit a ball, like, parallel to the course?
Like, you just hit it straight forward as you were swinging into the golf cart.
Oh, straight right into the golf cart.
That was when we had to do, um, spinning bat or, no, that was, I think I had to do.
That was off my ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I didn't want to hit Trent's ass.
So it reminds me of that a little bit.
Like, I think you would hit straight right shots like a few of the holes.
I also think if we played 18.
you had a better shot than if we played nine.
So I think you would start to get into a groove of things.
Yes.
Yeah, there's also a caveat here that I'm not allowed to, neither of us are allowed to practice.
Yeah, like I'm not allowed to practice at all.
We just show up.
And then today's skills.
Today's skills we just appear on the course.
Yeah.
I think Bob wins.
Really?
Yes.
I think I win.
Yes.
I think we're underestimating a little bit despite your hockey playing career how hard touch would be around the greens
and how many times you might just like miss the ball.
left is hard.
See, I don't, I don't disagree with that.
I just think that I could manage the course well enough
having played the game and let Bob beat himself.
Yeah, I think Riggs.
But also when you say you would just putt around the greens,
like Bob could just do that too.
Like Bob.
But like he, you know, like he wouldn't think to do that because he doesn't know, right?
He doesn't play.
Yeah, no, that was never crossed my mind.
He just would look at the hole and be like,
I have to hit it towards the hole,
flub one into the bunker, takes five to get out,
skulls one into the has, you know?
I also, like, Rick just putted around the bunker made an eight instead of a 12.
Maybe he'd see you do it once and be like, I should just start doing that.
Another thing is, and I'm sure you mentioned this on your pet peeves.
There's enough situations that arise during around, I think, that it just over 18 holes, I think it would work in my favorite.
When I played in the scramble, I just gave, I was with my cousins, and I gave him a heads up.
I was like, I'm just going to say this once.
I'm going to need to know what club to use for every shot.
So just as you're grabbing your club, just give me a heads up on what I should be using.
And they knew I'd never played before this.
So they're like, all right, fine.
I wouldn't have that playing you.
No, he wouldn't at all.
just would have no idea.
I wouldn't say a fucking word.
What club do you use for certain shots?
What do you think I use here, Riggs?
Don't worry about Bob.
A lefty putter, Bob.
About a 70% lefty putter, Bob.
Yeah.
All right, so we got to do this.
Bottom line is we have to do this, the spring.
When it warms up, we got to get my hands, you know, ready because I got that disease.
Yeah, yeah.
What is it?
Reiner's?
Rainoids.
Rainoids.
Oh, I said last week, I think I have a mild case of that.
Yeah, I could show you pictures of my hands from this week.
Not good.
I was telling the people how when we went to do the,
the blizzard boys in Times Square
where you were like, yeah, my hands are going to fall off.
We go do that. I was like, what do you mean?
You're like, no, they're going to get purple and fall off.
I have like lizards or whatever.
It's called rhinoids.
Hebrids of the hands is what it sounds.
It's most commonly found in females age of 15 to 30.
Yeah.
You got Bob.
You look exactly.
You like one of those.
That's perfect.
All right, Bob.
Thank you very much.
We're going to do this, this spring.
Coming up.
We've got to test this theory out.
I think I'm going to crush you.
Just because I'm smarter and older and more experience and all that.
We will see.
Thanks for coming on, Bob.
Yeah, of course.
Bob, it was great to be back.
It was nice to hear from you again, Bob.
Yeah, haven't been here since the Farity episode
where he declared that Lemon Lombator is green.
Oh, my God.
Oh, you've been saving that that long, huh?
For six, seven months.
That was nice.
It was a long year.
That feels like it was an eternity ago.
That was the last time you were on the show?
That was your last produced podcast?
My last show as a producer, yep.
Out with a bang.
Went out with an absolute bang.
And a nice little plug for those that didn't hear that podcast.
Go back and check out the Farity podcast.
When was that, like, June?
No, it had to be.
Maybe even before that May, I think.
It's been a long, it was a long year.
All right.
Next up, we got an interview with 61-year-old college golfer, Don Byers, of Omaha, Nebraska.
Awesome interview.
Very interesting guy.
Some call him old balls, which we forgot to call him to his face.
But we thought it was really funny, so we decided to say it anyways.
Enjoy this chat with Don Byer.
Don, how you doing?
Pretty good.
What's going on?
This is Riggs.
By the way, I'm joined by my buddy.
Freddie Trent, who's my co-host.
Hey, Don.
Hi, guys.
How are you doing?
We're doing really well.
How you doing, sir?
Freezing my butt off.
Is it cold out there?
It's very cold here in Nebraska.
I'm sure it is.
It's cold up here, too, by way.
It's like 11 degrees.
And our studio might be even colder.
Yeah, we played three or four weeks ago,
and now we can't even get outside.
It was 30-some blow in the wind last night.
Yeah, so we just got back from our break.
We had a week off, and I am originally from Iowa,
so I was back home for a week.
And it is no joke.
It is so cold.
It was supposed to be, the day after I left, it was supposed to be negative 20 without the wind show.
Whereabouts from Iowa?
Cedar Rapids.
Okay, yeah, yeah, no, you're telling the truth.
That's what it's like here.
So, Don, if you don't mind, you know, we're not going to do much of an intro.
We're just going to kind of hop right in.
Your story has obviously been phenomenal.
We first heard about it a couple weeks ago.
From Alex.
From Alex.
Who hit us up, you know, it's funny.
I go through all these emails.
You know, we get hundreds of emails, and I'm reading through.
And a lot of them, you know, if they're short and sweet,
check them out if they're long. I kind of scrolled through them. I don't have time.
I got through a couple paragraphs and I got to the end of it. We almost thought that this
story was fake because it was that good. Let's kind of get back to the beginning of it. First of all,
state for the record. How old are you?
61, two days ago. Okay, 61. Happy belated birthday. Happy belated birthday.
Thank you. You, so for, I believe Alex said for, you know, 30-some-odd years,
you've been running your own business, playing golf on the side.
Talk about what you've been doing in your background over in Nebraska
for the last, you know, several decades.
How many several decades?
I take you back to my birth if you want.
No, I grew up here in Omaha.
Like I said, I'm 61.
I played ball, and I never really played a lot of golf.
I caddied.
I started caddying, caddied from my dad when I was young.
He got me started in the sport,
and then Omaha Country Club has a caddy program.
I started there, actually, when I was 10 years old.
I got all sorts of stories I could tell you about that.
But started there, caddied through my sophomore year in high school,
played baseball the whole time.
And at that era, they didn't want you swing in a golf club when you played baseball.
So I'd say baseball.
Yeah, mess up your swing.
And now the guys play in their off day or they play right before they go play their game.
So just a different way of thinking.
So we only played golf a couple times a year.
and then went to college.
I tried to play baseball.
I went there on a baseball scholarship, but I was a pitcher.
And before I could even get started, I blew up my arm.
So I went to school a couple years, didn't play.
So I guess that technically makes me a junior academically
and a freshman athletically in the NAA.
It's crazy.
Went from there, went to work in the insurance business,
then open up my own business, and I've had it for 30-plus years.
sold it five years ago, still working for a great group of people out of Beamer Nebraska.
I don't know if you know where that's at.
The Stephanesmeyer family has a great golf course up there.
And then just been playing at the local club, and for some reason, you guys know golf.
If you get it figured out, let me know.
Just probably had one of my better years ever this year and happened to play with Rob Brown,
who's the golf coach at Bellevue.
And he started pimping me around.
why don't you come play?
Why don't you come play?
I thought he was kidding.
Yeah.
I told friends, they all thought he was kidding.
You know, we all just laughed about it, and he kept, he stayed after me.
So as things worked out, I'm going back to school in March.
You were, you played well, you're getting recruited.
That's what it sounds like.
I was getting recruited, yeah, and I didn't even know.
I went home and told my wife, and she just laughed at me.
He said, yeah, right, you know, you're big ed.
Sure you are.
And we had fun with it, and then that was the end of it, and he kept calling and calling and
and went and talked to him.
I said, you're really serious about this.
sorry. He says, yeah, I think you can do it. And he checked with a lot of the local people that
knew me, the different pros I'd played with, and the local clubs, and they said,
a guy can do it. So I'm going to give it a shot. So how good your game? What's your handicap?
Well, I got it down to a point two this year, which I was pretty proud of, playing from about
6,800 to 7,000 yards. I went down to Arizona right at the end of the year and moved it back,
played some tips on a lot of courses there, anticipating this. So my handicap bumped
to just a little over a two.
I figure I'm about a one or a two,
and with some coaching, as I told the coach,
I should get down to scratch pretty quick.
Have you been yelled at yet or anything by the coach?
We had a little discussion today about my language.
You guys won't get a lot out of me.
Oh, wow.
Really threw a muzzle on him right before the interview.
Well, he's a great guy, and we went to a local place that hits balls inside,
and I knew some guys there.
And, of course, we get to talking in our language,
and he looked at me and he says, you know,
you're not going to be able to talk that way on the golf team, and I went, all right, I hear you.
Do you consider yourself coachable?
You're 61 years old.
You're probably pretty set in your ways, but are you open to new ideas from the coach?
Yeah, one of the things I thought, I mean, you know, you guys play golf, I understand.
I'm sorry, I'm not really familiar with your podcast.
Oh, yeah, we're big time.
We're big time golfers.
We get out there as much as you can.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, my son, Donnie, and Alex, my nephew, they told me all about it,
and they're so pumped about this.
But, yeah, I think I'm coachable.
you know golf you start doing things you get in a habit and somebody's got to say stop doing that
and uh i've had a lesson from a local guy here uh skip treadway that runs a golf thing and he he taught me
and he says you're very coachable so i'm going to listen i want to get better uh so is the coach a younger
or older guy than you are he's 73 okay okay wow interesting i would have figured most coaches would be
uh around your age or maybe in their 50s or something like that no it's kind of a neat story he's played a couple
opens, I guess. And he's
good or used to be good,
and he's been a local pro at a lot of
different clubs and around the country.
And I think, I know if you notice
the website, we got guys from all over the world.
I don't quite know the story, but I think
he went over to South America
or sometime and used to try to spread the
golf word over there, and that's how
some of these guys came over to Bellevue. Well, yeah, for
him to have the idea, you know, to recruit you're bringing
you on to the team, he's got to be, you know,
he's got to be a little bit of a...
He's an outside-the-box thinker. Yeah, he's really kind of
coming in with some ideas.
He is, and he's the one that kind of push me.
He's, you know, I said, you're crazy for doing this.
And he says, you can do it.
You know, you might be able to play.
I mean, you'll be able to play.
I got to make the team.
That's the whole thing.
I mean, we've got about six guys going.
I don't want to sound cocky guys, but I wouldn't do this if I didn't think I could make the team.
There we go.
Be cocky, Don.
I want you to be cocky.
Be cocky.
All right, I'll be cocky.
Come on, brother.
Are you just going to, I mean, you know, are you going to be ruthless against some of these kids?
I mean, are you going to be just trying to kick kids' asses out there?
I should have you talk to my buddies I play with.
I don't like to lose.
Okay.
We're playing for a few dollars.
I want to just make sure the money's always coming back my way.
So I'm a good loser, but I don't like to lose.
So to answer your question, yeah, I'm going to give them all I got.
If I got somebody down, bury them, right?
What do you think the young, what's the age of the youngest kid that you're going to kick his ass this year?
He may kick my ass.
I'm guessing, this is a guess.
Yes, they're probably 19 to 22.
Okay.
Interesting.
So I got 40 years experience on them, but I've also got 40 years of life on this body.
Have you, I like that.
Have you played with any of the teammates or anything yet?
Yes, I have.
Yes, I have.
They're good players.
I've held my own.
I haven't had a problem there.
I've been right there with them.
And these kids, and I've got to say it, and you might have heard it and some other things I've talked.
But I've had my heyday.
So I'm not trying to steal anybody's spot or steal their limelight.
Steal their girlfriend.
Yeah, no.
You know, I'll tell you another story there.
But no, they're great.
They're great guys, and they're good players, and they've got my back, and they're cheering for me.
So that's kind of cool.
What's the strongest part of your game, you think?
I would say I've still got some pretty good distance, some good club head speed,
but my short game has really come around this year, and that's obvious when you start dropping your handicap.
You've got to get that 100 yards on in down, and I've worked really hard at that.
So I got to ask you about a story.
Alex told us a couple stories from, you know,
you kind of getting acclimated with the team a little bit.
What's going on with the pants situation?
I heard a sponsor came in.
They got these, you know, these new hip tight-fitting pants.
Might not have worked out for you.
Well, the guys on the team all have like 28, 29-inch waist in there in tremendous shape.
And I'm going to wait.
Not a weight.
I should say there's a trainer working us down there.
And he's kind of working with me, too, to get into shape.
But, yeah, my pants, I look like a stuffed sausage in them right now.
They're the athletic fit shirts with the skinny, skinny pants.
And let's say I'm 6'4 way a lot more than I should,
so I got until I can get into them.
It's going to be interesting.
And what about, so I heard another little anecdote that you guys have been doing some team lifts
and the music choices are not necessarily the same as the teammates.
Well, they've got all the teams down there.
And the first time I went down that they didn't know I was, so I was sitting kind of like in the outer room, so one of the teams was going, and they were playing some pretty hard rap, and I've never listened to rap, and you guys have listened to rap, and you know what's said in rap, and I'm going, holy cow, I've never heard that before in my life.
And then we came into work out, and they put their Mexican salsa music on, which I laughed.
I have not had the opportunity to bring mine yet.
I've asked them.
They've all said no, but I would like to bring my music someday.
I will.
I will definitely bring it in there at some point.
I run the gamut anywhere from Frank Sinatra to ACDC.
Oh, I bet ACDC would work great in a locker room.
I think it would.
I think it would.
Crank it up and go from there, and they should like it.
But, you know, if I get a little Janet Crowell or whatever, Diane Crowell or something like that,
they might not really like it or James Taylor.
I don't think you can lift real hard to that.
One of the first days I was there, they said, okay, guys, here's what we're going to do.
They got high ceiling.
So we're going to jump up there.
That bar is about 10 foot.
grab it, you know, bend at the waist, pull yourself up and touch your toes to the ceiling.
And I could barely jump up and grab the damn thing, the bar, and they end up putting a band on my foot.
So I did a pull-up.
There you go.
I mean, that's not bad.
Hey, think about it, though, to bring your toes up and tap the ceiling?
That's incredible.
I am so impressed with these guys.
I couldn't do that back in my day.
It feels like a real missed opportunity that they're not videotaping these workouts that you're doing.
Well, I told them.
I said, no social media, guys.
I'm not on Facebook.
I'm not on Twitter or whatever you call it.
I says, I don't want to see this showing up because when they're done with me,
and it's only about a 20 minute to a half-hour workout,
it looks like somebody sprayed me down with a hose,
and they're going to classes,
and I've got to try to figure out how to dry off and go to work.
I'm going to be honest, Don.
We might have to come down there with a camera crew and do a little documentary on this.
I will be sick that day.
So you're taking classes, yeah, that's one of the requirements?
Yep, got to be a student.
So I start back in the spring, which is March.
our classes actually start I think three or four days before our first tournament in Vegas.
What class are you signed up for?
When I talked to my athletic student advisor, which he's younger than any of my kids,
and I found out I'm older than his parents, he was dying laughing,
and he suggested recent history because I've lived it.
Wow.
Damn, that's like a burn from the advisor.
Well, you would say that, but he showed the dates, and then that's when I was born.
That's recent history down there.
I'm going, you've got to be kidding me.
So, no, I'm taking a English class on Wednesday nights.
I go down there and then Tuesday, Thursday, I'll be taking a communications or telecommunications or something class.
And then I'll take a class out of home on history, online class.
I've got to take nine hours.
Okay.
How concerned are you about the grades?
Like a pride thing?
Like, I'm going to crush this?
Oh, I better.
I'd be very upset if I didn't.
Yeah, I'm going to try to make good grades.
I like that.
See, you are.
He's a competitive guy.
Yeah.
Come on down.
We'll play.
It's cold.
So when are you, you know, are you going to be, I guess when you're not at class and you're not, you know, at practice,
are you going to be out at your club playing with the boys and kind of what are your, what's that squad?
What's your usual playing crew saying?
Are they going to come out like cheer for you when you're playing?
Right up, yo, they're all, they all got, they all laughed at first.
Nobody believed me for weeks.
And then all of a sudden the story started leak out.
They go, you're not kidding, are you?
And I said, no, I'm not kidding.
I think I'm going to do this.
And they were all real happy for me.
I think it's really cool, but I played, I don't know, the Ginn system,
I think I posted 155 rounds last year.
So they're saying you're going to have to cut back on your golf just to play with the team.
So when one of the guys thought I should be redshirted anyway.
So when is, you know, when do, I guess winter tryouts?
Well, like you said, you just got back from Iowa, you understand what the weather's like.
So they're hoping the weather will break in March.
that we'll get to play a few rounds here,
and then we're going to go out a few days early to Vegas
and play three or four rounds,
and the coach will make his determination then
who will actually play there.
All of us are going to Vegas.
So that will be kind of neat.
So when those first, you know, let's say, you know,
you're pretty confident, but we don't ever take anything
grand around here.
Let's say you play golf.
You know you can have your bad days.
Exactly.
Let's say you play well, you make the team,
that first competitive round comes up.
How prepared are you going to be?
I mean, I assume you've played in so.
some decently legitimate, you know, amateur competitions before?
I have, but the nerves will be flowing.
I'm sure they will.
Be a little shaky, but I'll work on that between now and then.
All right.
What's the biggest part of the game that we're working on that we've got to focus on
going into your first collegiate golf season?
Well, I could just get hit the ball straight, I guess.
You know, it can spray a little bit.
But, you know, I'm just, I work, I don't know how to answer that, really.
We're going to be working inside a little bit,
so they'll be watching my swing and making sure I can hit.
Hard to tell the way the ball goes inside,
but they do have a track man there, so that'll help.
A few years ago, I set up a net in my garage,
but it's nothing big.
I only hit the ball about five feet,
but I go out there every night and probably hit two or three hundred balls.
So I keep my swing and my body golf ready.
It shouldn't be that big a deal next year.
I hope not.
You know, we'll wait and see.
Is there a, is there like a team captain
who's going to be kind of telling you what to do,
like maybe making you go last in line to get food at the buffet?
Yeah, do you think you're going to get haste?
I've discussed that, and I'm going to get my dander up, but who knows?
We'll see.
Are you going to be a trooper when you do get hazed?
I will for a while.
Been there, done that, and I've done that to other guys back when you could haze.
I don't do that anymore, right?
So how's the family, how's the wife, everybody, you know,
taken that you're now a college athlete?
My kids, I've got two daughters and a son and four grandkids.
They think it's an absolute riot.
They're having fun with it.
My wife, I tease her your, you know, Alex told you what I told her about going home with the junior at night.
And she just rolls her eyes.
But she, I tell her, I got to go back to school and find the cute cheerleader to do my homework
because she was the cute cheerleader down at Nebraska back in the Farragamo era,
if you guys even know who Vince Farragamo is.
Oh, you know, you're speaking a little before our time.
So back in like 75, 76.
she was in school.
She went down there a couple years,
and then she came back to Omaha to nursing.
So married the cheerleader.
She's tickled to death,
but she kind of wants to stay out of the limelight right now.
But I don't know how that's going to happen.
I was going to say, are you a local celebrity right now?
This is kind of a strange story to happen.
If you got people coming up to you on the street being like,
are you actually going to play college golf this upcoming season?
Yeah, I'll be honest with you.
You guys are the third person I talked to the local TV station did something.
Then I know a guy on radio that did something.
Yeah, yeah, we go down to Creighton basketball here.
And I had a few people.
We went down to the game the other night and had a few people ragging on me a little bit.
But it's all in fun.
They're good people.
Don, you come out hot with a couple of good rounds.
You might have the wife out there in that cheerleader outfit again,
just ready to cheer you down that first fairway, pal.
Yeah.
She was red and white.
She says she's got to change her colors now to purple and black.
That's our colors.
So we'll see.
I doubt if that will happen.
Well, we're going to have to get ourselves some Bellevue merch.
We're going to have to get ourselves, you know,
What are the colors?
They're purple and black.
I like that.
They're online.
They've got a bookstore.
I get to go down to the bookstore next week.
Pick out my books.
I haven't done that in 40 years.
What's the...
Think about that one, guys.
What's a Bellevue mascot?
A Bruin.
A Bruin.
Bellevue Bruins.
All right.
Well, I mean, we might have to make some stuff or maybe buy some stuff.
We'll go on the website.
All right.
Non-buyers, we really appreciate it.
This is one of the cooler stories going in golf right now.
So, in fact, we're able to chat with you.
It's very exciting.
You're very exciting.
confident going to the year. We'll be following you. And yeah, keep it up. It's great stuff, man.
Hey, I love it, guys. Thanks for calling in. And anytime you want an update, you know how to find me.
We appreciate it, sir. Good luck. Play well. And I'm sure we'll talk to you again.
Thanks. Thanks. Don. I love it. Thank you, sir. Thanks, Don.
All right. That was our guy, Don Byers. Trent, what did you think of this guy?
He was great. We're going to be checking in with him as things go along. Hopefully he makes the team.
I'm pretty confident he's going to because he's a confident man. So, I mean, he was everything I wanted him to be.
Honestly, he called it the tweeter, which was my favorite part of the interview.
There's a little Bill Belichick right there.
It was, yeah.
But yeah, Bill Belichick does it on purpose, I think.
Don Byers, God bless his soul.
He's just the guy who doesn't really know what social media is.
So big fan of Don, big fan.
We also, we did a little surfing on the Bellevue University website for some merch.
Oh, man.
So we're going to be placing an order tonight.
We assume, we highly encourage everyone to do the same.
Get some Bellevue Bruins gear.
Bellevue Bruins, their colors are black and purple.
Yep.
They got a great crew neck that just says Bellevue across it.
They got some fire hats.
I mean, we are going to have some legitimate Bellevue University Bruins golf merch.
We were talking to golfers.
It's not golf merch.
We were talking about it a little bit before and what is going to happen when we put these orders
and the people on the other end are going to be like, who is ordering a bunch of Bellevue merch?
Up to New York City.
Up to New York City.
What is going on here?
And it's the foreplay boys because we love Don Byers.
Don Byers, our favorite college golfer by far now.
So, yeah, it was a great chat.
We appreciate him coming on.
We're going to check in with him throughout the year.
We got a lot of big guests lined up.
We got a big year coming up.
2017 was awesome.
We wrote a little blog and a little thank you to everyone, but we'll say it again.
2017 was an awesome year.
We're just 11 months into this thing.
Only going to get bigger.
Only going to get better.
Only going to be faster.
I'm going to be stronger.
All that good stuff.
Let's have a good year.
Let's keep crushing, Trent Daddy.
