Fore Play - Nick Taylor Joins, The WMPO Delivers, Tiger Woods Returns, and Netflix Is Here

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

Nick Taylor joins (50:27) fresh off a solo 2nd-place finish at the WM Phoenix Open. We delve into the wild atmosphere, the final round grouping with Scottie Scheffler and Jon Rahm, and sneaking inside... the ropes to watch Tiger Woods. We’ve also got our crew breaking down the Netflix “Full Swing” premiere, Max Homa’s club throw, Barstool Sportsbook hot streaks, UFOs and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butterknives because he always knives and across the green.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Rock's 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. We appreciate it. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different? It's ain't a hobby. Foreplay, brought to you by Barstool Sports, presented by our very good friends at Chevrolet,
Starting point is 00:00:48 EVs, EVs for everyone everywhere. Been a hell of a two or three weeks for the fellas. It's been a lot of travel. We've been all over the goddamn country. Filming stuff, recording stuff, going to events, going to parties. doing the Phoenix Open, doing the Super Bowl, doing the Dozen Live show. And now, bang, we're just right back into it with Tiger Fucking Woods, is playing golf this week.
Starting point is 00:01:07 We got Nick Taylor, who's going to join the show in about an hour. He finished second. We got much to get to from the Netflix documentary. The first episode is out. Barstall Sportsbook. I'm Red Hot. Kirk, for the cut missed by a stroke. People were going nuts.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I had one guy DM in me that I'm some kind of idiotic fuck for thinking that Tommy Fleetwood. who's like never played the event before was going to make the cut even though he only missed it by one and i didn't even pick tommy flea where i pick max oma so there's a lot going on right now um everybody's back home except dan i believe is out waiting for eldrick taunt woods to appear is that right yeah but i'm also kind of home because this is l. a's where i grew up so i'm staying in my parents house this weekend so you know half home but yes everyone's on tiger watch it was so funny like when we found out i think it was in the middle of the round on friday found out that he was playing and we started telling guys afterwards. They were like, oh, Tiger's playing next week. And to a person,
Starting point is 00:02:01 they were like, ha, that's awesome news, like in the most genuinely happy way. It's cool to see how pumped they are when Tigers team it out. I'd say it's a bit of a stunner. You know, when we heard the, I mean, we talked about last week, um, chances of him playing. And I was pretty down on it. I think a lot of people were down on it. Hasn't played a competitive round of golf, you know, really since the open. And that's been a while since then. So, you know, I, we, I think we all thought he was just going to take this week off, be the host, you know, be a presence, but not be a participant. But I'll tell you what, I am over the moon that Tiger Woods is going to be playing competitive golf on the PGA tour this week.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, I thought I was fucking shocked. I mean, when I saw that tweet came across my desk, I was, I did a double take. I was making sure it's not one of those trick accounts. We got the PGA tour account that always tries to fuck with people. I thought maybe it was one of those that was doing something because it was just a tweet from Tiger Woods being like, I'm pumped to play it. BJ Toravit. He's playing a BJ Tor event.
Starting point is 00:03:00 So the whole thing, the fact that, you know, we said at the beginning of the year, or maybe in the wintertime, we were trying to kill a little bit of time, get through some of those episodes. Like, is Tiger Woods going to play in four events all year? Is he going to play in five? Is he going to play in six? Well, I would say now this makes it pretty goddamn likely that he's going to play in at least six events.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You have to think Genesis, players, championship, and then the four majors. I mean, it's very exciting that Tiger Woods is playing this week. And I think it's completely shocking. he's playing. What did you think, what did you guys think of the actual tweet itself when he put the word actual in all capital? Because I think I was with Frankie when this news broke. And we were kind of going back and forth about is that a shot at Liv or is he saying that he hasn't played in an actual PJ tour event since the Zozo in 2020, if I'm not mistaken. Like, what was he saying? Yeah. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit of inside info here.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I thought that it was heavy. Oh, so I go ahead. never mind internet's a little slow here i'm like there's a little delay so you go ahead we can't see you either right now i don't know why i don't know if i'm the only one but um you know i was gonna say i thought it was heavy i thought there was a lot to it i thought that it was for sure more to it i think dan just has inside information on it so i don't know that my opinion on this matters if we just know the answer i want to hear it anyway i thought it was a shot at live for sure like i thought that it's saying like it's an actual tournament everything else is kind of fake to him he's always felt like the pGA
Starting point is 00:04:26 is the pinnacle of the sport. And then that's what you should strive for in the history and all of the, you know, everything that comes with being on the PJ tour, Tiger Woods is, that's what makes his being. So I think being able to announce that he's coming back to a tour event as opposed to just like you're saying,
Starting point is 00:04:40 it's only been the majors recently. I think he's very happy about this. He's letting people know that even with, in my opinion, again, all of this just means nothing until Dan speaks. But in my opinion, it's also a weird dynamic we have on this podcast where like we can give
Starting point is 00:04:54 opinions, but Dan just knows the answer. right after we give him. So, you know, all of this just means nothing until he talks. Well, before, all right, before we get the actual info, I want to also say that it would appear that Tiger's Twitter account is where he gets the sauciest. Like, for sure. When the Mickelson thing with the PIP, I believe, I forget exactly what he said, but when
Starting point is 00:05:14 Phil was like, I won and then Tiger won, he came back at him. And then also, um, there's a bit of a like a video game war going on where, you know, there's PJ2K23 that we love and we're in the game and we were showed our characters during the waste management, which we can talk about. And then there's the other game that I won the, the other game put out a trailer a few months ago and Tiger tweeted from his account being like, I don't know about all this other stuff, but I'm a 2K guy. Those are things that he doesn't normally say.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And I know we've had a lot of debates on this podcast about who actually runs these Twitter accounts for these professional athletes. Tom Brady is a good example. Tiger is another one. And Tiger does tweet out a lot of TGR and TGL stuff about charity and this new league that he's starting up. But every once in a while, there's a tweet that I think comes directly from him. And I think the announcement for Riviera was one of them. Right before we get into the facts, I want to let you guys know that there is another video game
Starting point is 00:06:06 coming out. We are 2K guys until we die. The other game's EA. We don't have to like hide that there's another company out there that makes video games. I was hiding it a little bit. They, they are coming out. And we have a resident nerd, Alex Bush, our producer on this podcast. And when I told him that I read that the EA game was only going to be in 30 frames per second for console, he was like, what is this? fucking 1998. I mean, they're not,
Starting point is 00:06:29 when someone that plays video games hears that they only put enough like money and power into the game to, to produce a 30 frames per second video game for sports. It's not enough frames. It's just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:40 Alex, Alex, what are you pushing out on your PC? What's a, yeah, give us some context. How many frames are you pushing? I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:47 depends on the game, but on PC you can get up to like, on the one that I even get up to like 200 plus. I mean, most Xbox games like lower end gets 60. Oh yeah, and your expertise, a game coming out in the year 20, 23 and 30 frames per second is laughable. Should not have 30. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Okay. So I just wanted to put that out there. Our video game characters are coming out in the near future. I think within the coming weeks, we are going to be in the video game. And when I tell you that we're like, we are so in this video game, it's actually, it's actually the craziest thing that's ever happened to us. And I know that we always say that and we exaggerate and everything that happened so it can't be the craziest thing. when I saw our characters spinning around in the player selection area where like you can go down. It says you have the past Tiger Woods, Justin Thomas, Tony Feeneau.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And then it's like Frankie Borrelli. And you can click on it. And then my body pops up. And I move around and I kind of smile and I wave the fucking club at you. That is that is something that I didn't anticipate happening when I was leaving the pizzeria to come here. That's something I did not anticipate happening. There's a clip in the promo video that they made to showcase like our kids. characters and the in the reactions and the facial expressions and there's a clip of the three of us
Starting point is 00:07:56 just walking down the fairway like shooting the shit together that it looked more real than our YouTube videos. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's extremely cool. I hope that it's in, you know, in the hundreds of frames per second, you know, that you I'm not sure. I know it's not 30. I know it's not 30.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Got to be higher than 30. I just would, I don't guess. But yeah, it's, it's pretty crazy. It's, it's, I very much agree with all of you that the Tigerwood spiciness seems to come through his Twitter account, which makes sense. I feel like Twitter is where you can get the spiciest unless you're creating like memes. I don't really know how spicy you're going to get. It'd be great if he started a meme account where Tiger was just putting out, you know, memes on his Instagram. But, um, but yeah, I agree it was a shot at live.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I, uh, I, I, I don't know what to expect. I mean, there's a chance that he's sort of just like, yeah, as long as I'm not going to die, I'm going to play. I'm going to play in this because it means so much to him to try to get the event. You know, in the spotlight, it's his event. It raised money for his foundation. He has clearly tried to make it in the last several years, you know, get it up to the point of the Arnold Palmer Invitational and the Memorial with Nicholas and Arnold Palmer and Tiger Woods doing his own thing.
Starting point is 00:09:11 So clearly he wants to promote the fuck out of this event and him playing in it is going to be the best way to do that. Riviera, Dan, he's not historically played great at Riviera. isn't that right? Yeah, it's the course he's played the most times without winning. I think it's either 14 or 15 times he's played and is never won. He's finished second. He's finishing the top 10 three times, which is funny because for most people, they'd be like, oh, he's got four top tens and 15 starts of Riviera.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Tiger Woods, like, what the fuck? He can't figure out Riviera? I know. Can we get to the facts? I think people have been waiting for the incident. No, you're actually right. So Tiger's social media person who's been running his social media is this woman named Christy who's married to Bud College.
Starting point is 00:09:50 she's been out on maternity leave. So I think this is a little bit of like Tiger after dark. You guys were talking about him like kind of firing off and going a little bit more rogue. I definitely think there's been a little bit more voice in these because, you know, Christy's not at the wheel right now. Wow. Yeah, I thought, I thought he was going to play. Christy on maternity leave more off, you know, let's.
Starting point is 00:10:09 But get to work, pal. Let's keep her. Yeah. Tiger's got, he's got his hands on the sticks. That's great. Yeah, I, um, I thought he was going to play. someone told me on Thursday afternoon a player who would know who's kind of boys with tiger he's like I think he's going to play don't say anything but I think he's going to play and so I tweeted something on the morning being like yeah I think you know he wants to play I don't know if it's going to and then boom
Starting point is 00:10:33 five minutes later he tweets that he's going to play so just a really really hot couple weeks for golf last week waste management was electric we got tiger this week we got the Netflix show debuting it's like you know usually it doesn't not really until the players that things kind of pick up but it feels like this season's off to a really hot start. Really hot start. And we got Tigerwood. So my week's obviously going to be consumed with following Tiger. We haven't seen him since he was crying, walking across the Swilkin Bridge up,
Starting point is 00:11:02 this, you know, his 36th hole of the tournament. So it's nuts to now think it's been that long, which is what, July that was? It's been that long. He didn't play the hero because of the planter fasciitis thing. Now here he is playing. and he's most likely, I would say, going to play this month. He's going to play once next month,
Starting point is 00:11:21 and then he's probably going to play the Masters. Would you think that's probably right? Yeah, I think this tournament's a higher priority for him than the players, to be honest with you. I wouldn't be surprised if he skips the players championship. Again, his event, it's a dead flat golf course, apart from the walk down on one, the walk up 18.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I definitely think he's playing the Masters. That's his plan. Obviously, wouldn't be playing this if he didn't feel like it was going to put his Masters in jeopardy. But again, I just think he doesn't know. I think his body is in such a position where he could wake up one day and be like, oh, here's a new thing, you know, which just nothing, nothing is a guarantee, which I think is why players like Max Homa and, like, John Rom and, like, Jason Day,
Starting point is 00:11:59 are just, like, so happy and appreciative when he's playing, because you just don't know when they're going to happen. He did play in the PNC, and I was looking through, I was doing a little research this morning, Bones McKay, who obviously caddies for Justin Thomas and was playing in the same group with Tiger and Charlie that day. he goes, I couldn't be, I couldn't believe how impressed I was with Tiger. I was thinking to myself, as what he said, I was thinking to myself, oh my gosh, it's a rider cup year.
Starting point is 00:12:23 So that's how good bones thought he looked. Again, it's obviously different. It's a dead fight golf course. They're playing, they're in carts. It's a hit and giggle. There's no rough. You know, don't tease me like this. But it's like, I just went through a hole like, oh, he never plays well,
Starting point is 00:12:35 Riviera thing. If he's like, gets through 36 holes, maybe 72, that'd be amazing. And now he's going to be, he makes a rider cup thing? I mean, I agree. I think making the cut and making. and making the cut and not expiring over the weekend like he did at the Masters and at the PGA championship would be a huge success. But like if he shot if he shot two under on Thursday, would you really be that surprised? No.
Starting point is 00:12:58 No. No. Have we gotten past the point? And I know we've had all these debates as Tiger has made his return back to golf for the past couple of years. But I remember we used to debate on like, do you want to see him just play tournaments or do the play the tournaments that he can win? Have we gotten to the point where now we're just okay watching him play golf? and accept the fact that the result doesn't matter anymore. Have we gotten to that level of Tiger fandom yet? I have not.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Like, I don't want him just joining tournaments that he doesn't think he can dominate. Like, maybe in a couple of years, I'll be like, I just want to see him on the screen. But I've been keeping, like, a little bit of hope each time he lets one go by. Like, as he skips a tournament, as he skips a tournament, it's like, oh, he didn't think he could win that one. You know what I mean? And then when he comes back, it's that feeling of when we tee this ball up at Augusta National, victory is the only option for him. That's the only reason he's doing it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 If we start doing these like, oh, it's my tournament. I'm going to start playing in it and I don't really care. That's where I think we lose Tiger Woods and who he is. And I never thought he'd do that. I don't know if it's as cut and dry as that. I think it's, I get excited every time he's going to play. And I look at each time as an opportunity that he could win.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I don't know if I'm necessarily looking at each tournament. When he signs up, I'm like, well, then he thinks he can win. I just don't know. And at a certain point, you have to phase out of that. I don't want to. I'd never want it to. But you just got to look at the writing on the wall and say, this is where we're at.
Starting point is 00:14:22 This is how old he is. This is what his body's like. This is how many times a year he's playing. Now, like I said, I do think every time he plays, I view it as an opportunity where he can win. And I think he probably feels that way too. But the days of, you know, he's letting that one go by because he doesn't think he can win that one. But when he signs up for one, that means he definitely has it in his mind that he can win.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I don't necessarily view it that way anymore. Now I can't speak for him, but that's how I view it. Yeah, I agree. I think that he, I think what's tricky is we went from pretty much every tournament he played in. He went into thinking, there's no way I don't win this week. And if he doesn't win, he was rattled and he would be throwing clubs. And he afterwards would be like, okay, we got to tighten a couple things up. It's, I cannot believe I didn't win.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I, you know, I think he's gone from the phase of belief. he's going to win every single time he tees it up to i still think every tournament he's ever played in he thinks he can win and it makes me think of phil mickleson at the pga a couple of years ago like i don't think phil went into that tournament thinking like i should win this week but i guarantee a part of them clearly thought and always has thought like yeah i i got a shot i can win and i think tigers probably in that part. Dan gets highlighted right away in the first minute of the first episode of full swing when he asked Tiger at Augusta like, do you think you can win this week? And he just goes, I do. Or I can. And it's like, fuck yeah. So I still think he genuinely has that belief. But I do
Starting point is 00:15:58 think it's dwindled from like, oh, I firmly believe I'm going to win this week. And I should to like, yeah, there's a chance I could win. You know, this is going to find this. You know, this is going hit the shot still that's why that's why we that's why we have that confidence he can hit the shots during the waste management this week which we'll get into i watched john rom at one point on sunday he hit he pulled the ball left and then took like a like a very very conservative chip out to the middle of the fairway and like the announcers were kind of like oh like that was kind of weird like i thought like maybe he'd go through the sand like go into that first bunker and it reminded me of a hole that like tiger would play now where like he didn't hit a good drive he chipped it out and then
Starting point is 00:16:35 that next shot was on the stick i actually watched John Rom do that thinking that when Tiger does come back, that's the kind of tiger we're going to see. It might not be like the tap-ins for birdies, but he's still going to hit those like wedge shots that are going to be like, we have a par put right now. And if we make it, we're staying in the mix. Staying in the mixed tiger is like our new tiger. And unfortunately, that's just what we have to deal with, I think. And maybe staying in the mixed tiger can rattle off a fucking win. Because when you're in the mix, you can win. That's a fact. You guys are going to, is going to fire you up. I want to see your live reactions to this.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Okay, I have my hand on my car. Getting a little intel that Tiger Woods is currently at Los Angeles Country Club doing a scouting trip for the United States Open. Yeah, this is what we're talking about. He ain't missing the U.S. Open this week. He ain't missing the U.S. Open this year. Heavy Penn. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Red the Rock. Kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? What the guy? He's double dipping the chip this week. He's going to win Riviera. He's scouting for the open. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't think he's playing, but he's right. Him and Robert riding around LECC. They've changed the course all. A lot for the U.S. Open. So, yeah, he's, he means business, it seems like. Even better. It's not even a leisurely fun. It's a business trip.
Starting point is 00:17:45 He's going there just to look at the course. I'm going to play it. What a guy, dude. That's just so exciting. That's very exciting. He is him. That's what the kids say. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:56 We get to just watch Tiger Woods this week. I'm like almost on a U.S. Open level course. Don't they have a PJ or U.S. Open coming there in the next decade they announced it, they're about to. They're about to. But there are some, there's some significant, there's some significant chatter that there, I know the course is at least
Starting point is 00:18:11 in discussions to host the 2031 U.S. Open. There's also a wrinkle to this podcast where Danny will say a couple things to us. And then it's on us for, like it happened with the master's credential. He told us that. It's very awesome. In the group chat, we were fucking fired up. And then the next podcast, we announced it. So it's funny watching the rumblings that we get from Dan and then we just announce it on the show.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And Dan then has to be like, oh, you know, there might be some talk about. that it's it's an incredible dynamic uh all right we got uh like we mentioned we got a lot to get into from the phoenix open being out in scott's deal the whole time talk about chevy real quick and the evs i'm seeing i'm seeing chevys it's it's you really can't help it once chevy becomes on your mind you get that bow tie you get the different the bolt ev we got to see some silver auto uh evy action and we were involved in something incredibly cool that's going to be coming out and it's really you can't grasp how cool technology is until you fully see some of these electric vehicles from Chevy and that new technology wrapped into the old school prominent brands and lines
Starting point is 00:19:23 that Chevy's been delivering forever. And then when you see it, you see all the talk of the electricity being fully electric, cars running on battery, not having to worry about gas and the emissions and all the deal. And then you see it again wrapped into something. like a Silverado or a blazer or a bull. It's incredibly cool to just realize that we are in the future. Dude, if you don't believe us, believe Will Farrell. I was watching the Super Bowl last night and he got into a Chevy EV Blazer. It's like, you know, again, like if you don't believe the foreplay crew, do you like Will Ferrell?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Do you think he knows what he's talking about? Yeah, he does. I was stunned. I was like, we're in the same thing that Will Ferrell is. So everybody is pumping this EV and it's right. It's the future. That's what it's going to be. There's charging stations all over the place.
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Starting point is 00:20:54 Scotty Sheffler, speaking of Chevy, suburban guy. Scottie Sheffler, he's number one in the world. He won back-to-back years at the Phoenix open. He won $3.6 million. He didn't have his best stuff, which is a little bit Tiger-esque of just not really having your best. He was pulling the ball a lot, I feel like, it was kind of his miss, but roll on the rock beautifully, at a huge par save on 16, made that big eagle on whatever that is, 13 or so on the back behind. So he just brought, he brings it. He can roll that rock. When he does, when he gets out, reminds me a lot of that stretch, obviously last year when he won like four out of
Starting point is 00:21:32 six tournaments got the number one. One of those tournaments included the Masters. I remember because, you know, the match play, which we'll have to talk about the future of that, but the match play, it was him against Kiz and the final. You don't always get to see every single shot. You win the leaders. That format, you're forced to watch every single shot. And I remember how beautiful he was just rolling the rock then.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And you were like, well, he's hitting the ball 50 yards past Kiz. And he's rolling the rock. Like kids or better than Kiz. Of course, he's going to win. And obviously he won. Reminded me of that a little bit yesterday, just watching him where he's just, got that beautiful tempo. His pace and speed is perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:06 It makes the whole bigger when you do that. And then he's got the finish. It looks like every shot he hits. He shanked it basically because he's slipping all over the place. And yet he goes out and he shoots 19 under, I believe. And wins the tournament. So a big shout to a big friend of the program, Scotty Sheffler. Yeah, I mean, the guy, his pace was actually completely off on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:22:24 It was, I never really seen him put like that where he was blowing them by. And then the next hole he'd keep it short. But then every single comebacker was right in the middle. of the hole. I forgot what hole it was where he opened the door just a little bit. It was like 14 or 15. He blew it by. And then you're like, oh, man, he's going to three putt this because he putted it off the green and was on the fringe. And then he just drains like a 15 footer from off the green dead center. If you're playing against that guy, you have no chance. Even if you're John Ron like you're one of the best players ever like right now of this generation. You still have no chance
Starting point is 00:22:56 against Scotty. He's that nails when it comes down to the finishing. He's proving it every single time he wins. Yeah. The putt again on 16 is like, that's just to me one of those. And forever it just reminded me like, what was the hole where it was that par five at the, in the Dell match play last year where Scotty like hit one right.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And then he like flubbed the chip and it's looking like kids is going to win the hole. And then he like hold out his chit or his bunker shot, you know. And he was doing a lot of that. We're like, oh, this guy's got, he's giving him an opening. He's starting to stumble a little bit.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And then he just bears it. He has like that spieth to him a little bit now, it seems like where it's like, even though he seems like he's coming off the tracks, like bang, he makes something that actually somehow that disaster of a five minutes built momentum for him. And you're like, how the fuck is that possible? He didn't hit a fairway for the first one, like eight holes. So he hit five fairways all day. He shot 66.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He hit five fairways the day before, shot 68. The speed comparison is one that I found myself making this weekend also rigs where it's just like, the guy's just got a scoring gene, man. she's just able to get the ball into the hole. And like he's like speed at my way, but he also hits it miles and drives it really, really straight. Again, it's no surprise. He was the number one player last year, player of the year, off to a little bit of a slower start this year.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But yeah, it just felt like, you know, every time he was off balance or every time he was in trouble, he found his way out of it, and he got breaks. He got a bunch of really lucky breaks. You need breaks to win. 13, he hits one right. It bounces back into the fairway. 14, he pulls one into the sand. He finds an open shot.
Starting point is 00:24:30 15 same thing goes right bounces back in the fairway 16 he gets to place it because his drop was in a really bad lie it was a really bad lie and then he just placed it into a good lie so you got to take advantage of those mistakes of those breaks rather and he did and he's back to world number one it's funny we've been talking is it rory is it is it john rom and scottie's like hey i'm i'm here don't forget about me yeah man dude he's i saw him on saturday i was on the putting green and i just saw him he kind gave me a little look, a head nod. And then he was just, I looked at him like, man, that's the best golfer in the world. Like, you just remembered that his like swagger and like he's just doesn't get nervous about anything. It looks like it's just a regular tournament to him. The way he's just kind of like
Starting point is 00:25:12 goofy and just like walks. It's like he, his swagger's being like kind of like nerdy and like laughing and giggling with Ted and like it's very look like you, if you're his opponent, you're like, why does this guy not give a fuck? You know what I mean? You're like, why does this guy not give a fuck right now? Like, why is he just? I think it's really tough to play against, especially if you're someone like Rom who's so, so intense. It's like, what are you doing? And you're a little goofy.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, Rom. Ram is like so, so, so, so intense and living and dying with every shot. And for some guys, that would definitely throw them off. But Scotty just couldn't be less bothered about him anything. See, I think about it. He just laughs. He just starts laughing. So I was with our buddy Brian Axorot.
Starting point is 00:25:49 He was in there with me, like, kind of on the side. And he looked at me, he goes, that guy just, like, laughed at you. I'm like, yeah, Scotty Scheple, he doesn't really know much about. He's like, that guy. he's like laughed to you. I'm like, Scotty Sheffler, just laughs every time he looks at me. I don't know what it is. He does laugh. Maybe it's the progression of my fat face. He's like, man, Frank, he's just losing it right now. And every time I see him's getting fatter and fatter. But he just laughs. It's very, very funny. He's like, man, I hope they make his 2K character as fat as his face looks right now. Oh, man. He's so funny. He is a goofy guy. You know, what I love, too, is that dichotomy of he does come off that way. He's goofy. He's got the laugh and he's looking at you and giggling. Yet he said like he was crying the more. He's, he was crying the more. He's, he was crying. The more. He's, he's the more. He's, he's morning of the masters because you know the moment so big for him so i think that probably helps him of like it does ground him he's able to accept things and i think there's probably an element of when you have that scoring gene that scoring touch that speethness tiger obviously had it
Starting point is 00:26:40 phil had it like you're never really that out of it you know it's like even when you're hitting it left hit it right you're like we'll kind of get the ball in the hole here because that's just what you do every time and he carries that demeanor about him and it is like you know if you were doing the ESPN, like probability to win a hole. It's like off the T's like losing and then off the second shot. He's kind of losing. And then it's way down here. And by the end of it, he like gained half a stroke on this whole amount of the time
Starting point is 00:27:06 because he just kind of figures it out. And he was doing that a lot. It was fun to watch. It's kind of inspiring to watch that when he's, somebody's hit it all over the place and posting, you know, 19 under and winning the tournament on a course that was playing very difficult. It felt like this week. It's very much like something that Max Homa told me,
Starting point is 00:27:23 I think last year, a couple years ago when he was going into, I think it was the final round at Riviera. And he said he got a text from Justin Thomas that was like, dude, you don't have to play perfect golf to win. And it was very, because there's this belief with the PJ tour is so deep and everybody's so good out there. Everybody plays so well. And they're like, in order to beat all these guys, I got to play perfect golf. And it's like, no, you really don't have to play perfect golf at all. And Scotty showed that a lot. So shot to, again, a big friend of the program, Scotty Chef.
Starting point is 00:27:49 His chipping is, it's unbelievable. It's one of those things that other pros talk about. I know that, I know Tiger's a big, I don't remember who was telling me this, but Tiger's a big admirer of Scotty's chipping because, look, you don't win the Masters without being really good around the green. And Scotty has that unique ability to hit cut chips and draw chips. And he's got the full arsenal like Spieth does. So it's, you know, I think people think of him as a bomber because he's a big dude.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But that's what I like most about watching him is just how creative he is around the greens. Totally. He does it. He just gets it. He just gets it done. He gets it in the hole. So a fantastic week. The Phoenix Open delivers.
Starting point is 00:28:21 we talked about it so much leading up to it. I mean, it's a major when you're there. It's a major. When you're walking around, it's, I don't know how anyone doesn't consider that. Like, I haven't been to a players before. So I'm hoping when we do go there that it has the same juice. I don't know how anything can have the same juice as that. Like you have.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It doesn't have the same. Imagine another golf tournament where people show up at 5 a.m. And are sprinting to a whole. Like I understand that the reason or part of the reason for that's because people want to get shit faced all day and have a good time. But that's not a knock on that tournament that they've just made it where it's fun and people want to go there and it's a party and 16 is this raucous event. There's no other golf event that has that.
Starting point is 00:29:06 None of them. They all have different things. The Masters has what it has. The majors have what they have. The players is the players. But what the waste management has is its own thing. And I don't think you can recreate that at any other event. Here's where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:29:19 If I'm a PGA tour player, I'm going. I want to win a Masters, US Open, Open Championship, and then I want to win the waste management. Oh my God. That's being mean to the PGA of America. That's just being real mean to the PGA championship. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:31 That's just where I am right now. You're at that event. You can't believe how cool it is. Imagine winning that thing. The crowds, the crowds were going fucking crazy. And that's no dig at the PGA of America. Like, they have a major.
Starting point is 00:29:45 They're fucking historical. We go to all the PGAs. It might be a slight dig. But like it is like, it's just because the PGA tour event. is that much better. The waste management is that cool. It really is. You can't replicate it. Well, the fact that it's a designated event now is, it really is there's, there's, there's not many things that you can knock it on. Like it used to be guys don't want to go there because
Starting point is 00:30:04 they're like, oh, you know, maybe I don't thrive in that environment. Now you have to play in that event. And it makes the fields insane. At some level, it is about the crowd and the energy, right? That's what makes something all it's bigger. Right. So it's like if you, if you played like, if you play, like, if you played a major and there were zero fans, they just weren't allowed. And like, and then you had the Phoenix Open, like everyone, that event would eventually just evolve into like, we just care more about the Phoenix Open. So to Frankie's point, there's somewhere in between there where like, you just be like, okay, if all the fans care about this more and we make more money and the event is bigger and
Starting point is 00:30:42 grander and there's more stuff involved, like, then this is just big. Well, the only difference is, right, but it eventually becomes a legacy. conversation where Justin Thomas is like, I'm a two-time major. And, you know, yeah, it'd be great to win the waste management, but I've won two PGAs. And at the end of this whole thing, those are going to count more than, you know, you know, making a birdie on 16. I get what you guys are saying. And I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But you almost need it to, it's always just going to be a designated event, which is huge, but it's never going to be in the conversation when you're talking about your career. Yeah, I agree. I'm still putting it forth on my list. I'm not like raising it above majors. I do agree majors are there. I didn't know how aggressive you were going to get. I thought you might go like Masters Phoenix Open.
Starting point is 00:31:24 No, no, no. US Open is the same thing with fucking just all the history and all the legacy. It is certainly in the conversation with the players, though. That's an interesting conversation because the players doesn't have the designation of a major, obviously. So now you're just talking about which event is cooler to win. And those are pretty even at this point. Netflix and the creators of Drive to Survive were inside the ropes for the entire 2022 professional golf season.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Look, we talk about it a lot on this show. Damn is in that show. We're talking about Full Swing coming to you, Netflix Wednesday night. You're going to be able to get all of the episodes. Watch Full Swing February 15th only on Netflix. The first episode's out now. I watched it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yes, from our vantage point, is very funny to go through some of the very much. mundane sort of simple elementary parts of golf and have those explained to you. But no matter who you are, if you're into golf at all, you're going to love this because it is layered, layered, layered, layered, more information, more footage, more comments, more conversations that you'd never seen before, all packaged into the shit that happened last year on the BGA tour, full swing, Dan's in it, February 15th, Netflix. I watched the first episode and I loved it. It's pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Pretty big deal. Yeah, you guys are going to feel like you know these guys. I think that's the main appeal to show. You're going to feel like you know Jordan Speed and Justin Thomas and Tony Finau and Colin Mori Kawa. And just like you feel like connection with the Formula One drivers because you know them. You've seen their families. You've seen where they live. It's the same thing with golf.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So let's fingers cross. This thing has the same effect in our sport that it did in F1. You're on Netflix. That's like as big as it gets right now in our world. That's like being on the, it's like being on a paramount movie in like the 1970s or something like that. What did you think about the first time? you saw yourself, how'd that go? It was,
Starting point is 00:33:26 it was good. I was, I was selfishly hoping that they weren't going to use me as one of the guys who's like, this is a par, and this is a birdie, and they didn't. So that's a success. Hell yeah, Dan. That's going to be great. People are going to love it. Set against the backdrop of the struggle between the PGA tour and the newly emerging live golf,
Starting point is 00:33:42 this series follow, I love always reading the copy that they give us. This series follows a diverse group of players, including Roy, Macroy, Tony Fienow, Dustin Johnson and more. Witness players enduring a high-stakes season weekend and week out on the PGA tour, including all four golf's major championships. They capitalized M&M major, which I like.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Full Swing provides unprecedented access to the rivalries, passions, and personalities that fuel professional golf. So check it out. Watch Full Swing February 15th only on Netflix. What do you guys think about potentially finishing it on Saturday? And I know that it's, you know, it's such a big thing because of how many tickets they sell on Sunday. And most golf events, they are for TV. They schedule it for TV. This one's different because of how many people go and how much the in-person experience matters.
Starting point is 00:34:40 But Riggs, you and I were talking about this. Sunday sort of feels like a come down. It's a bit of a hangover. The whole thing crescendoes on Saturday. And then Sunday, people just want it to be over for the Super Bowl. You know, if Tori Pines is going to go Wednesday to Sunday for the AFC and NFC championship games, Shouldn't we do the same thing for the Super Bowl? I just don't know because I, I, it's weird when they do that that week.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Like nobody knows what's going on when they do do that for the farmers. Like nobody know, right? Like we talked about that where people were like looking at their, I was looking at my TV like, what the fuck's going on? This is the final route. There's third route. What is this? And so I think if you do that in an event where you don't really need to do it, right? Like I think that they, they must see data that they, they almost piggyback off the Super Bowl and lead up to it.
Starting point is 00:35:25 and that clearly works. You get a few weird years where they had like seven whole playoff with Ricky and Hineki, obviously. But I, it does, it is a letdown. It is a letdown. Saturday is the day and to finish it the next day to a degree of like the fan and the booze and the atmosphere and all the juice, it is a letdown. But I don't, I don't know if it's enough of a difference that they should actually do that. I just think that's, you start that thing on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:35:51 That means they lose a whole day, which they're never going to do, right? all that Sunday of fans and tickets and all that. They get a lot of juice out of Wednesday already because they do the pro am and they have all the celebrities and the shot of glory and the fans are packed. So like, I just, I mean, I get into hypothetical. So we don't need to factor in all those things, but it's hard for me to ignore all those and just look at it as like they would never do that. So that's the only, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:15 I weirdly think, like the Super Bowl was in the same city this year. So I actually think when the Super Bowl is there, it should be it should finish on a Sunday because it feels like everything is happening like holy shit we're going to the tournament and then you know the super bowls later maybe you hit both i don't know people do that scott sale was unbelievable this got that was unbelievable i almost think when when the super bowl is in a different location which is the majority of the time then you do Wednesday to saturday because the juice of sunday being the super bowl and the waste management happening at the same time i think is great but i think when it's in l.a or it's in tampa the super bowl i think you can have the the golf tournament
Starting point is 00:36:51 it finished on Saturday and it wouldn't be that much of a difference. I think the timing doesn't matter though. I mean like the location doesn't matter when you're watching on TV. I think that's only for people that are there. Yeah. I'm saying the experience of it being for the people there on Sunday and the Super Bowl being in the same city, it feels cooler. And now you're talking about what, 50,000 people who are different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I have my, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's Sunday is awesome. what the hell you're going to do on Super Bowl Sunday before the Super Bowl? Like it starts at 7 o'clock at night. Watch the seven hours of pregame coverage. 10 guys sitting in a studio being like, I think the Eagles are going to win. No, no, no, no. I think she's going to win.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Derek Jeter get announced to Fox and then completely ignore Alex Rodriguez every time we tried to get him to respond to him. So funny. Is that what happened? Oh my God. That relationship is going to be something to watch this year. I mean, Arod had a jersey for him and Jeter just didn't even look his way. It's just unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I think Jeter saw that A. I was becoming liked again by being on the broadcast. And he's like, I'm just going to come there and everyone's going to like me more now. It's just, it's funny because it's switched because Jeter was, had a kind of a rocky tenure, right? With the Marlins. So the recent press with Jeter wasn't so great.
Starting point is 00:38:04 So their roles had kind of reversed. It's funny watching all-time athletes deal with another all-time athletes sort of get more popular to them. It's Michael Jordan and LeBron is a great one. So the LeBron thing has been going crazy. He's been winning. He's, you know, is he the greatest ever? Jordan puts out this 10-part documentary during the prime of this whole thing. And then when LeBron is about to pass Kareem's scoring record,
Starting point is 00:38:31 February 3rd comes up and they make it Michael Jordan Day. And he's pumping it up. He's like, yeah, make it my. It's so funny watching the jockeying of positions between all-time athletes because they can say that they're friendly. And no, no, no, it's great. I respect his career. But the guys who want to be the best will have that until it's over.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Well, in the captain, as a Yankee fan, you always knew Jeter and Ayrod didn't really like each other. There was always the rumors and all that stuff. And even though they were best friends when he was on the Mariners, he was on the Rangers, Jeter and him were legit best friends. And in the captain in the documentary that was on this year, Jeter does say he's like, you know, like I didn't respect his move coming to my team. Like if I was the best shortstop in the league, why would I ever go to another shortstop's team and move to third base?
Starting point is 00:39:18 I think Jeter went up to him one year. during like a rain delay and was like why did you come here like thanks for coming here we're going to win a world series but like i don't respect that what are you doing yeah like if you like respect how much he didn't respect it that's right like like you're the best shortstop right like why did you come here and play third like are you a lose like are you a loser like you know what i mean like it's kind of the question he's asking him like go like i want to compete against you why are you here like i think right and i think if you got a few tequila sodas and mj he'd be like Miami was fucking i was a cowards move. That's a coward's move
Starting point is 00:39:51 to go. You got to beat these guys. You got to play these guys. That's what Jeter was saying. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And he's like, are you trying to take some limelight away from me? Fuck you. Which I love. I mean, of course they're going to have that in them. That's their DNA baby. We talked about that. We famously got like blacklisted by Jack Nicholas's team because we said that and we said a little further that like Jack's
Starting point is 00:40:12 not going to be around to like if it's coming, if it comes down on the wire, Tiger might break Jack's record. I don't think he's going to stick around for that. I think he's be like, I'm not, you know, so that's, there's always that dynamic in every sport. Of course, there's that dynamic in every sport. How would there not be that dynamic? So, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I told it. I get it. I get it. And now, you're on. Why are you coming to Fox? It never ends. It never adds. And it will have a thing going on over here.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Why are you here? Do you think Jared, do you think Jared, Jeter will be good on TV? Yeah, I think he's going. Okay. Fox has a few of those because now Brady's coming and Greg Olson is like killing it. Craig Olson. Everyone loves during the Super Bowl last thing. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Greg Olson is great. He was down the middle. You couldn't tell what team he liked or didn't like. And then he like genuinely gave good input at times that needed to come in. He wasn't Tony Romo like coming his pants every single throw. And it wasn't like over. They let the game play out. It was a great game.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And yeah, I thought Greg Olson was fantastic. How about the grass situation? Weird. Not the best, not the best look for us golf people. The sod father. So the 94 year old guy, they call him the sod father. He's been doing this grass. shit for fucking 70 years.
Starting point is 00:41:21 They literally call him the sod father and he just somehow fucks up the Super Bowl. They spent two years in 800K growing this type of grass and then I think they installed it two weeks ago. And like people were saying like
Starting point is 00:41:36 the soils not can be able to like grow roots and it's going to be like there's going to be divets everywhere and he's like no there's not. It's going to be great. They bring it outside. Have you ever seen the system? They bring it outside at the Arizona Stadium so that it can get light and then they bring it inside.
Starting point is 00:41:48 It's on these, it's on a motorcade essentially thing. And they fucking fucked up, man. Somehow, dude, players said they felt like they were playing on an ice skating rink. It was, the grass was like a newly funded grass by the USGA. And they were, they were, Mike Juan, who's the CEO tweeted out before, like, you know, we're proud to play a role. And then it was a disaster. I mean, look, I know that there's probably a lot more factors that go into this. But if we think about grass that is grown for golf,
Starting point is 00:42:17 it flies, right? Like that's called a divot. Like when you hit the grass, the club goes through it and then it goes flying. You don't really want that to happen on a football field. Again, it's probably not that simple, but it just, I don't know if I want the grass on the fireway to be the same as, you know, the grass when they're cutting. S football players, they'd want to play like, oh, on a, like a rock hard, like behind a high school grass rather than that.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Like, they've been playing football their whole lives. They know how to play on just like regular hard grass surfaces. Why does the Super Bowl have to be this new, like squishy, watery grass? Like that's, that's not what they're used to and they've never played on. That's insane. It was shocking. That was the worst field they never played on. I can't believe it's a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That was an issue. I just can't even fathom that. How was that not, you know, tried true and tested for, I don't know. I can't even fathom fucking that up that much. It should be the only thing they were confident about. Like this grass field that we have to take care of, that's the playing surface of the biggest game of the year is going to be great. It's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:43:16 We know how to grow grass. We are at football stadium. They play football on grass. So we've been doing this for a hundred years at this point. We're fine. We got this. You know what it reminds me of when the great pizza reviewer, Dave Portnoy, went to an established Long Island Italian restaurant.
Starting point is 00:43:33 My dad fucked it up. And he just decided at the last second to try something new when you guys been making pizzas for almost 70 years. Just keep it consistent. Let the guy try it. And it's going to be fine. and he just switched it at the last moment and it just didn't go over all that well.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Pizza reviews became a huge thing. They're the biggest thing on the internet. I'm the pizza recorder. I'm pizza boy to Dave Portnoy, the pizza king. The whole storyline of me going back to Borrelli's was a massive one. The anticipation was through the roof.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Dave went to Belmont to watch and gamble on the horses and then he was going to come to Borrellys. I ordered him a limousine to pick him, L.O, all of his friends up at Belmont and drive them to Borrellys. The anticipation was out of control. You could cut it with a fuck. butter knife. That's how it was just it was it was it was right there in front of you. You could actually
Starting point is 00:44:19 see it. You could see the air in between me and Dave. It was fucking thick. And, uh, he walks in. And at this point, I had, I was in the, I was in the limousine with Dave. So I wasn't able to be at Borelli's to prepare my dad for what was about to happen. I was just texting and calling. And in that moment, he, he takes Laredo, who's been making pizza for 60 years at Borellis. We've been old for 68 years. Laredo's been there for 60 years. I bet, I think, he takes Laredo, he takes, about eight years after it opened in 1955, he came strolling in from Italy with a Russian man. It was just him and a Russian guy. They got off the boat.
Starting point is 00:44:52 They landed in East Meadow, New York somehow, and they walked in. He just had a little suitcase and a briefcase, and he just goes, I work here now. And they just taught him how to make pizzas. And he's been making pizzas so long that his fingers are actually, his thumbs go sideways from just pushing in the dough every single second, just moving dough and flattening it out. His thumbs are all sideways. and he knows nothing but pizza. If you ask him who the president is right now, he has no idea.
Starting point is 00:45:18 He doesn't even know, what's your favorite music? He goes, music. What? He doesn't understand, like, if you're just like, oh, like, what's that shirt? He goes, like, shirt. Like, he doesn't know, like, what words are. He just knows pizza. So given that buildup, he made the pizza for Dave, right?
Starting point is 00:45:33 No, my dad kicked him off. And my dad made the pizza because he thought my dad was so excited and nervous because my dad's watched every single pizza review, all 1,800 of them. that he's like he likes some crispy he likes some thin crust he likes him well done so i'm gonna make this pizza in a way that dave portnoy likes it but that is not what you do you don't change it up we don't have the best we don't have like the world's best pizza at beryllas but it's been good enough to last us 68 years of business that's insane when you think about it for a restaurant so let's just
Starting point is 00:46:06 go with the fastball you know even if it's a 7-5 or an 8-1 or 2 or you know what it is now it turns out my dad did make it a good pizza. I think Laredos would have been like an 8-9, an 8-8, because I really fucking love Laredo's pizza, but my dad had that hint of doubt in there. He had somewhere in there. He's like, I think we just, no, so he ended up fucking changing it. He makes it a 7-9. You're not in the eights. The eights are a travel pizza that changes your business forever. If you're in the eight, it changes your business forever. People are traveling the world to go there, but we got a seven-nine because my dad fucked it up. And it is what it is. You know, you'll just never, we'll never get that back.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So there's the story. I got to give a shout to Jason Day, we finished top five. Oh, I bet him. Hell of a best. A shout out to Kirk Minahan. So Kirk's been on fire. Last week, he had a random caller, call in,
Starting point is 00:46:56 and you say, who do you like this week? And he gave Justin Rose and Danny McCarthy, Justin Rose won the tournament, was then on the podcast to check that out. Last week, he's going around saying, I really like Jason Day. I don't know that he's necessarily going to win, but I like Jason Day.
Starting point is 00:47:07 threw money on him top five. I know Frankie did well. A bunch of other people did as well. It was one of the great sweats of all times. yesterday. I mean, we had to have at one point, Jason Day, he makes a bogey on 10. He doesn't birdie. The two par five is 13, 15. And then he gets to 16, has one right in the jaws, leaves it 17. He hits it out into a fairway bunker. He's got like 53 yards to the whole Tyrell Hat makes an eagle to get into fifth. And so Jay Day goes down to sixth, and there's no road
Starting point is 00:47:37 to success at this point. It's over. He's got no chance. He hits a bunker shot to like 18 feet. He fucking cans it. And Tyrell Hatten hits one in the water on 17 after barely missing on 16. And then we had, I don't even know about this dead heat reduction bullshit that people are telling me about that. If Jay Day was tied for fifth and not in solo fifth, we would have had to split all kinds of payouts. It wouldn't have been anywhere close to that. I didn't know that. I thought if he just gets top five or better, whether it's 37 people tied at fifth or not, that it's top five.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You're inside the top five. You did it. Not the case. I didn't even know that. So it turns out we have space. and fucking Hatton both had like 80 yards in on the last hole on the 70 second hole speed hit it to like three and a half feet misses interior Latton didn't get up and down from like 70 or 80 yards so just everything had to happen everything had to happen for this guy to finish top five he did it was
Starting point is 00:48:31 11 to one odds so a big shout out to kirk thank you kirk a big shout out to jason day who came out of the clouds and got himself the top five uh just a massive sweat that we had yesterday It's one of the best parts about golf betting is that there's so many different things you can bet on. If you're betting on a football game, yes, there's props and stuff. But it's basically who's going to win? What's the spread going to be? You could have had them top five, top 10, top 20, top 40. There's always a sweat.
Starting point is 00:48:55 There's always a sweat. Incredible. Incredible. For Kirk Minahan to throw out Justin Rose and Jason Day back-to-back weeks, I mean, out of the fucking clouds to win the people money on the Barstles Sportsbook, those are names that, I mean, you're looking at that list. Who the hell is picking those guys? And then Jason Day was leading the golf tournament. I think Dave Borton, I said that he would have won like a quarter of a million if Jason Day would have won in that at some point on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I think he started the round on Sunday four under, right? Like he went birdie, birdie, birdie or something like that. And Dave's like, I think I have to go to the waste management right now and make sure that I'm locking eyes on Jason Day because this is life change. Like, this is insane. 250 grand on the line. And this guy came out of nowhere. He should make my pick for for the cut this week.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I let the team down. Yeah, I let the team down. No, we ride. We ride strong with the team. No, because we've had some success.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah. It's, you know, three out of five. Three out of five. We missed a by a shot this week, boys, one shot.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Tommy Fleetwood was won over and that was it. And everyone, and you had to be even a better. I mean, that's amazing that we missed it by one shot. Uh, so great effort by us. Anybody that's upset about that.
Starting point is 00:50:04 We gave you a, uh, better than four to one, a better than eight to one. And eight to one. Those are all winners. And then, oh, you missed out on like a two and a half to one? Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Are you fucking kidding me? And it's close. You're going to be rich. It was very close. Yep, they're going to be rich. Very close. Barstall Sportsbook brings it. We're going to talk more about that later.
Starting point is 00:50:23 We've got to go because we're going to be joined by Nick Taylor, we just finished second place in the turn. So we're going to have him on the show, break down a little bit more Phoenix Open stuff and probably much more. Dude, I just saw, speaking of 2.18 million. We're joined by Nick Taylor. Just finished second of the Phoenix Open. Frankie was just doing a whole thing about.
Starting point is 00:50:44 thinks it's better than some of the majors and it should be elevated above those one major so we're doing a whole thing here but so it's going to fit perfectly that you just finished second i saw a tweet from uh brantley or mine at golf channel that said you made last year in 28 events 832 000 of the pj tour and yesterday you made 2.18 million in one event yeah that's it's a bit of a difference isn't it so actually i saw a tweet uh i made more yesterday than my two wins combined so that was I was, I was like, oh, wow. That's wild. How much of that is going through your mind when you're going down the stretch?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Is it at all? Or you're just trying to focus on maybe getting a win? Like, how, what's going through your mind down the stretch? Um, you know, obviously the whole back night was trying to win a golf tournament. Um, with Scotty, you know, playing as well as he was. He made, I feel like four or five very critical, like crucial putts. Um, anywhere from like the second. in third hole when Ram and I made a couple birdies early to put pressure on.
Starting point is 00:51:48 He just kept making putts on top of us all the way through that eagle putt and obviously 16 was a pretty pitiful moment in the whole day. But, you know, it's someone in my position, probably unlike those two guys, where, you know, 2.18 is a big deal for me and my family versus those guys, you know, they've had incredible three, four years on tour. So it's, I'm sure it crosses my mind might be a little more than that. She theirs, but it really wasn't. you know, I knew on 18 it was probably out of reach to win
Starting point is 00:52:16 and that a solo second meant a lot with world ranking points and FedEx points and obviously money. So I knew I still had to be focused and kind of get the job done at finishing second. You know, obviously, you know, I tried to hold that wedge shot to put something on Scotty. But once you kind of hit the green, I knew it was kind of over and just kind of needed to finish the term at all.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And the way you're playing, it was you and Scotty and Rom. I mean, that is, you were the third. and I don't think anyone gave you much of a chance at the start of the round. You're playing with two of the top three players in the world. You entered, I think you were number 223 in the world. What was the night before, like, knowing you're going to be playing alongside those guys and just how much confidence do you take from you match them shot for shot? You beat John by three and you tied Scotty.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah, you know, I've been in that position where I was probably wasn't given much of a chance. You know, when I played Phil a few years ago, Pebble, I'm sure not a lot of people picked me to beat Phil that day. I feel like when I've been in those situations, I've performed quite well. I just haven't really gotten those situations as much as I have liked. But yeah, it gives me a ton of confidence playing with both those guys, making putts when I needed to, hitting the shots that I needed to kind of compete. So, yeah, there was, you know, in hindsight, there's a couple things that might have done differently to maybe put a little bit more pressure on Scotty, but I felt like, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:34 that pivotal moment on 16, I felt like I had a great swing on off the T and the wind just took it, you know, four yards too far left and went down there and it didn't work out but um yeah i take a lot of confidence from it for sure yeah i was gonna say like how is this how are you feeling now going into the the full season like you know when we're looking at that leaderboard we're seeing like all these names you see nick taylor in the middle you're like what the who the hell is what's going on like this canadian got you got to look him up he's from canada i got to see if you're a big hockey guy we'll talk about that but it's like like are you now like oh yeah i'm fucking nick taylor now like now like i'm here like you're going to see me on the slate of board.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Does that, do you now, like, know that you can keep up with them? Like, is this what it took to be able to go toe to toe to with these guys? To be able to say, like, now this is where I belong. Yeah. No, no question. I think playing, you know, if I go back to Pel Beach when I'd won a few years ago, that obviously gave me a ton of confidence. But, you know, within three weeks, the world shut down.
Starting point is 00:54:30 So it was such a strange year after that, especially for my golf, obviously the world. But, you know, golf took a backseat for a long time after that. So, you know, I struggled for a year, a year and a half to kind of get my game back and, you know, playing with these two guys that are, you know, younger than I am at the peak of their game dominating our sport to kind of go toe and toe them. I proved a lot to myself. You know, and I feel like now I'm my world rankings to a point, you know, somewhat Texas this morning. I think I'm in the 70s. So that's my highest have ever been. I feel like I can keep pushing forward now to get in events that, you know, I've never played in before. So that's the exciting part. And I feel like everything I've been working. working on with my coaches and team that it's obviously showing that it's working and so doing a lot of the process stuff day by day and keep building on that is is definitely what
Starting point is 00:55:18 I've been focusing on the last six months and it's been paying off process process um uh I'm always curious about the dynamic with with you and your two playing partners before the first tea handshake like is there head nods walking around do you introduce yourself to the guys before on the range or do you just kind of like awkwardly walk around each other before you tee off um i i i've know i know them like their colleagues i guess you could say i probably been around scottie a lot more than john um you know i said hey to john's caddy adam hayes we didn't you know they might have been a head nod with john but he was in his own world and i was kind of in mine too um but you know they were chatty they were good they're complimentary
Starting point is 00:56:02 all of us for our shots so yeah if you pass you might give a quick head nod but i'm sure they were kind of like at least John maybe like who was this guy but you know that was you know we chatted enough during the round it was it was it was all good how about the um the lip out on 17 you ever had one that uh that brutal i've definitely had one that brutal in that moment definitely not um i had a buddy texting he's thorny actually like about 16 he's like i think if you didn't see scottie's putt you might have because you know i initially had it pretty straight almost going a little over. right from how my chip went by and then when scotties went left and then wrong hit his
Starting point is 00:56:42 put he went right on the opposite side you know there was a lot of time in between hitting that put and probably overthought a little bit and then you know being two down with two to play obviously anything can happen but i needed to make a birdie obviously on 17 and to have that lip out and then you know it kind of ended it there was pretty salty but um you know it is what it is if people if our listeners don't realize when he's talking about playing phil this was the 2020 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am. You guys were in the final group. You and Phil Mickelson. This was obviously before everything went down. You spanked him. You spanked him that day. And you did so with my old boss, Jerry Tarty, as your partner in the proam. I used to work for Jerry at Golf Digest. But you've had a
Starting point is 00:57:22 really interesting career. You were the number one amateur in the world, which is obviously serious, serious business. And it took you a couple years. You're playing PJTor Canada. You've got to go to Q school. You've won twice, but there's been kind of up and downs. Is that up and difficult for you going from being kind of the guy in college to, you know, you were the, kind of the odd man out in that group on, on Sunday. Yeah, you know, the game alone has changed a lot in 12, 13 years since I've been pro. It's, it's such a power game now. And that was, you know, I've talked with a lot of guys my age that, you know, Joel Damon,
Starting point is 00:57:55 for example, you guys know Joe quite well. Our games are quite similar, I think, where we're kind of plotters around the golf course compared to some of these guys now that, you know, the 180 ball speed is like a norm. And that Joel and I wouldn't dream of that. That would have a ball seat. So like, you know, yesterday, for example, on 15, I was asked, you know, like they were questioning you laying up on 15. I'm like, that's just not, you know, I was 240 kind of into the wind.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You know, I could pull that shot off, but I'm making six there way more than I am making a three by hitting a three aren't close there. So I stuck to my strength, which is my wedge game. It didn't work out that hole. But, you know, I have no regrets on that because that was just, that was the best decision for my game. but yeah you know Canada my work's way through PJ Tour Canada was I had fun of there my game got better I felt like when I turned pro I definitely kind of went in a dip and you know probably lost of what lost a lot of reasons of why I was good and had to find my way back and then since I've done a PJ Tour I've had some great finishes obviously but
Starting point is 00:58:55 consistently hasn't been there that I wanted so that's when after last season you know I kind of snuck in the playoffs and had some time to kind of look and see what I've done really needed to do. And I felt like we found a good recipe of what makes me as good as I can be. And so this year already I've had, you know, outside of even this week, I've had a couple top 10s, been in contention. So I feel like it's on the right track of where I know I can be is a lot more consistent of a player. So I saw Bob Weeks tweeted out that Nick Taylor moves to number 73 in the world. This is the first time there are five Canadians inside the top 100 in the official world golf ranking.
Starting point is 00:59:33 So I mean, is Canada coming right now? Is that something we got to watch out for? Yeah, we're coming for everyone. No, yeah, it's great,
Starting point is 00:59:41 man. Like Derek Ingram, he's taken over as a head coach of Golf Canada team there and he has done a phenomenal job. He was the assistant coach when I was in the teams and had a great impact on me,
Starting point is 00:59:52 but he's kind of taken over. And, you know, in the last like six, eight months, you know, with Corey Mack have played really well. Adam has really rebuilt his game with Mark Blackbird and has been playing really solid.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Pendrith had a bunch of time off there with some injuries, but he played phenomenal in the summer. And, you know, I haven't played with them last Sunday and had a great round. Svenson winning in the fall. Like, we have so many good players out on tour that are playing great, let alone, you know, I think we have eight or nine canes on tour this year. So, no, it's a lot of fun. We all know each other quite well. It's kind of our own little brotherhood, and it's fun to kind of support each other and play well. you're a Winnipeg Jets fan
Starting point is 01:00:30 no I'm not I uh wow I had so many Winnipeg calls I lived in Winnipeg for two years so I went back there for a good ain't here I grew up out
Starting point is 01:00:42 west near Vancouver in town called Abbisfords so I follow the Canucks I don't watch as much hockey as I used to but yeah I'm not I don't follow the Jets much at all so I'm sorry my thing is Devon Taves right
Starting point is 01:00:56 that's where Devon Taze is from Abisford British Columbia pretty sure yeah yeah there's been a few guys come out of there um I mean what was your like childhood like playing in Canada is it I mean obviously it gets colder there I'm not gonna like stereotype Canada I'm just picturing it being freezing cold it's definitely not Arizona in Florida like no it's so I went to school in Seattle it is I know how much time you spent in Seattle but it's like the same climate so growing up you know I've played golf on Christmas many a time so it's you throw your raining gear on your tok you're gonna be cold that you're
Starting point is 01:01:28 you figure out with your buddies, you kind of walk around in the slop, and, you know, there's nobody out there. But it's much different for like Matt, Corey, Taylor, who grew up out east. You know, their courses were shut down for six months. That wasn't like us. So a little different, but, you know, you grind it out in the cold and we figured it out somehow. Yeah. There's some sick golf up in that area. That Pacific Northwest, me and Frankie did a little bit of a trip.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Obviously, Chambers Bay and all that gets the hype. But I feel like that's a sneaky great golf. region up there. Is that Whistler up there? Wistler is yeah, actually was there for a good buddy's wedding in the summer. There's a few fun golf courses up there. But there's like three or four great private clubs up in Vancouver. Capilano is one of my favorites. Sean is he's hosted a cane open, I think twice. Marine drives a great one point gray. The course I grew up on was Ledgerie Golf Club. It's a little kind of mountain course. I love it. It's short. greens are tricky but um there's been quite a few good players coming out like adam grew up there
Starting point is 01:02:32 adam had one and i uh james lepp he was a phenomenal college player back in the day so we've had kind of a cool little breeding ground there what's the like swahili or something is that one of them up there swiss something like that oh sahali sehally that people's in seattle seattle i thought you're giving me a dig i actually took swahili in college but we whoa whoa how'd that go know that language Yeah, it was probably one of my biggest regrets with college. But no, it was like the athlete's language. So we, I had Jake Walker in my class.
Starting point is 01:03:07 There was a few athletes. And so it was like your language requirement. And so you have to take French in high school in Canada. I took it through grade 11. And I remember I was a teammate of mine, did French immersion. And which means he spoke fluent French, but he actually failed the like entry test on purpose to like get in my class. So he would just like, wouldn't have to go and would just like crush the class.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And we show up the first day and our teacher starts like speaking fluent French. And I'm like, what did I get myself into? Like, this is not me. And so I panicked, got out. And I stopped doing Swahili the next year. So I get a hard time for my wife and everybody else that I took Swahili. And I can't speak a single word. I was going to say how much Swahili are you using these days?
Starting point is 01:03:51 Uh, hoojumbo, C jumbo is hello in return. And that's, that's about it. Uh, my son loves the Lion King. So Rafiki. Acuna Matata. You know, that's all Swahili. I got about 10 words in my vocab. You see that Canadian commercial last night
Starting point is 01:04:07 during the Super Bowl with Dave Grohl, where he rattled off all the inventions that came from Canada. Some of them were stunning. Basketball and football being one of them was nuts to me. I think the radio. Radio.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. Peanut butter, which was, that was a stunner. Paint rollers, walkie-talkies, batteries, egg cartons, ironing boards, electric wheelchairs and the whoopee cushion. The whoopee cushion. They probably have left that one out. Yeah, that one is not as, I mean, as a joke, it's up there with the great.
Starting point is 01:04:38 In fact, I mean, egg cartons a little, I mean, people just weren't putting eggs in anything before. No, how are they tracing that? It had to have an unbelievable invention where you're like, we have all these eggs. They're breaking as we take them from one place to another. And someone came up with all this, this figure of styrofoam, I guess, at the beginning of it. And they're like, oh, yeah, this makes fucking sense. They've been cashed in for a while, that's for sure.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I didn't realize James Naismith was Canadian. That's a stunner to me. That's a big one for basketball. You mentioned University of Washington. Were you there when Joel was there for the brief time, Joel was there? Yeah, we came in on the other's freshman. And I was still attending University of Washington. And we lived here for two years.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah, so Joel kind of talks about this in sort of evasive ways. he kind of is like, oh, yeah, I was a bit of a crazy guy. What was Joel like for that one year in Washington? Because he did not last very long. So Joel, I got a lot closer than the end of our school or end of our first year and we lived together. I'll let him tell most stories, but no, Joel was great. He liked to have a good time. I don't think school at that point of his life was for him.
Starting point is 01:05:48 But so he actually wasn't, he was going to community college trying to come back to UW. And I think he probably went for a year and just, you know, called a quiz. for that but um we've lived together for two years had a great time he golfed occasionally um drank more beer than probably hit golf shots but uh we we had a good time that's our guy that's our guy that's right up there he's going to be pretty he's very prominent in this in this series right i mean every time i'm excited yeah i all this all how how excited are you that he named his child after you so i do feel i felt terrible because I want to say it's like
Starting point is 01:06:28 a family member whose name from like I think maybe his wife's side or something like that and I looked when they posted and I think I woke up like fucking hungover that day or whatever I look on his Instagram and it's like welcome to the world like Rick Zayman I went through and it was just
Starting point is 01:06:45 like every other comment was tagging me and I was like that is the last thing on earth that they want on a day like today luckily Joel's cool I don't think he really cares but I got like a handful of text from people like a couple people at work being like did Joel Damon name is kid after I was like no like that's just that's definitely hopefully not no that would be psychotic there's another um somebody who's a one of the NFL quarterback has a dog I think named Dave's that's Davin Taves Abbots for Canada he named his kid his dog Riggs oh did he
Starting point is 01:07:20 had another I think there's another I think it's Rick it's it's Riggs it's Riggs because he's also a Friday Night Lights fan. I'm getting crushed by this fucking son, by the way. I don't know if you guys have seen what I'm really powered through. I'm not. I'm not powering through any of it. It's been completely taken all of my... You don't have blinds. You can't splurge with the blinds.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's coming through the blinds. It's coming through the blinds. I have a shitty blind system, I guess, because it's blind in me is what it's doing. You got blinds on your hoodie. I can see the outline. It's unbelievable. Not all of this one, 2.18 million and can just put blackout shades into our house immediately. So we started off this show today talking about because we were out there at the waste management and that was my first time ever there. I know Reg's trying to been there days obviously been there.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And like I'm a sucker for like being at an event and getting caught up in all the theatrics. We've been to PJ Championships. We've been to U.S. opens. We've been to all of them. I've really never seen anything like that at the waste management with the crowd, the vibe. Like even guys walking through the tunnel where it says like welcome to the loudest hole in the world. And you're just like, you're getting the chills all day. it has all that meaning to it.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I mean, where do you rank that in events that you've played? I personally put it like fourth. And if I was like trying to think about like being a professional golf or where would I want to win, I mean, being down that and that final stretch to me is is real special. So I mean, for you,
Starting point is 01:08:38 where do you rank that? Honestly, since I've been on tour, it's probably now number one for the last couple days. You know, I've only played the Masters once and that was the COVID year in 2020. So there wasn't anybody out there. So I don't have never experienced the Masters.
Starting point is 01:08:52 you know, in its prime. Obviously, hope to get back there. You know, a close second, honestly, is when I played the U.S. Open in 2008 at Torrey Pines as an amateur. Obviously, a lot of that was brand new to me. But Tiger was there in his prime, and that's when he won. And I remember my brother and I, we actually, the preview, or they replayed it earlier this year,
Starting point is 01:09:13 but I missed the cut, but we stuck around. I snuck in, like, inside the ropes with the media wear when Tiger was teeing off on Sunday. And we were like, we made it the first hole and then we got booted because obviously we didn't belong there. But the crowds there and his like, he walked by us after his warm up putty and he just like stared right through your soul. I've never experienced anything like that in my life. And then he hit the worst tee shot I've ever seen in my life on the first hole and made double. But anyways, it was like that was one of the coolest experience I ever had at that time.
Starting point is 01:09:46 But yesterday it was almost like two different crowds on Saturday. compared to yesterday. Saturday was like a party crowd. You know what I mean? It was every hole was five to eight deep and I was in the third last crew. And there was obviously golf fans watching the golf, but they were just having a time. And then yesterday seemed a bit quieter at the start. It definitely picked up as the day went on, but it was more golf fans.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I think everybody probably drank too much Saturday and didn't want to come out yesterday. But the whole experience, 16 was absolutely wild all. week. I kind of went there, went through there on peak times Thursday Friday, which is fun, made dirty both days, which is really cool. But yeah, I think it was for the position I was in this week was definitely part number one for me. I mean, talking about a guy sneaking back in after the round, Callum Tarrant on Saturday, our guy Callum missed the cut Saturday morning and then ran up to this top of 16. And basically, someone smacked me in the ass. I'm like, who the heck was that? And I turned around, he was double fisting beers, being like, what's up, lad?
Starting point is 01:10:52 I'm just like, no way. This guy just got off the golf course and he's already housing beers. And I had to go do a couple commitments for like 2K and we had to do ads. I'm like, I got to get out. He goes, you are such a loser. Like he was already just in one up there. And like, we put out that video and he became everyone's favorite golf forever. It's so cool when you see like what you're saying, you go out there and you become a fan.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Like a guy that was in the actual event is such a fan of the sport and like the environment and everything about it, that they actually have to go witness what everyone else is witnessing. I mean, that doesn't happen to any other sport. You don't see a baseball player like strike out in the seventh and go out into the bleach to the Yankee Stadium and like see what the crowd's feeling. Yeah, no, it's, it's such a unique event in that way. And it's, you know, I'll give them cry. They've done a great job of adding more and more to the, if you want to call it,
Starting point is 01:11:38 controlled chaos. And it's just, it keeps getting better in a sense that there was times where, you know, you might, the heckling was maybe too much. But I feel like now it's just, you just deal with it. It's part of it. They've added a few more police officers to quiet some people down. But it's a fun environment to be in. And obviously when you're in contention, it's even more of a thrill.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Any surprises this last week? I mean, I know everybody typed the harp on the crowd or whatever. Was there anything you were surprised by throughout the week? Saturday, honestly, everyone I talked to was like, that was insane. Like, I played Jason Day. He's obviously been a lot of big moments. And he's like, I don't think I've ever seen this. especially at a regular tournament.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Like we're walking up the eighth hole and it's just like packed with people. And we're just like this is, it's wild. It's just I don't, I didn't think you could put that many people on a golf course. And there was, you know, I didn't see the numbers. I heard there was maybe close to 300,000 people on on the ground Saturday. I don't know how accurate that is, but just insane. It's insane. That's an outrageous number.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That's so cool. Yeah, because the front nine, I mean, I get it. I get it. Is 16 is going to be nuts. 17 they got the Bay Club up there and all that but the front nine is generally considered pretty sparse with the crowd you know comparatively to the rest of the course so for it to be that energetic walking up eight like eight's a nondescript hole with very I know yeah that's really cool like we we I tell everybody from home or I'm like yeah you know you could watch anybody
Starting point is 01:13:09 like one through nine and it gets a little while unlike that is that changed this year that you can you can watch if if you want to to go, let's say me, who would, you know, typically you could watch me wherever you want. No, that's, but the Saturday was insane. It was, it was crazy. And then, like, Sunday, when Ricky made that ace, we were a couple holes over. Like, that was a super cool roar because obviously you hear some of that on 16, but, you know, when they started chatting Ricky, he was pretty evident that he made a whole one.
Starting point is 01:13:40 So it was pretty fun. We were talking earlier on this podcast about how Scotty hit a lot of poor T-shots yesterday. I think he only hit five fairways. You got a few lucky breaks in the back nine, but it seems like he almost has this, you know, Jordan Spieth-like ability to just make a four somehow or to just make a three. When it became a matchplay situation,
Starting point is 01:14:01 I know that's a cliche, but it was kind of just you and him down the stretch. Is that frustrating? I mean, you've got to be thinking, oh, there's an opening here. Nope, it's not. There's an opening. Nope, it's not because I remember when I was playing,
Starting point is 01:14:10 it was like when a guy was doing that to you, it's killer. Yeah. No, he made, like I said, But it honestly started from like the third hole. He just, every time we put pressure on him, he just made a put on top of us.
Starting point is 01:14:24 So it was super impressive that way. You know, it was a couple times where I had a small opening if I could have pulled off a shot. Like I go back to 16, but that chip is one I feel like, you know, you're not going to hold that very often.
Starting point is 01:14:38 But it was a pretty good lie. I was looking straight off. If, you know, if I could have hit that the tap and range, I felt like that might have really changed it a little bit. I left almost the door open for him when I chipped it to about six feet. Obviously, it was a pretty tricky put down the hill. But no, he just capitalized in every moment.
Starting point is 01:14:56 You know, I've, yeah, again, I don't have a whole lot of things I can take back. I've obviously played great. But that was when I looked back where if I could have just changed that a little bit and put a little more pressure on him, things might have changed, but never know. So you're playing in a tournament with Tiger Woods coming up. Wow. I mean, you excited about that as a guy that, you know, in 2008, ducked under the ropes and got kicked out after one hole?
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm stoked. I saw that. I think it was, I don't know when he tweeted it Friday, maybe. And that spread like wildfire through the locker room. So I was, I saw the last regular, last regular season event he's played was 20-20 or something. Like, you know, this is my ninth year on tour. And I just haven't had a whole lot of events with them. Be what I think you played a tiger before?
Starting point is 01:15:41 And I'm like, I haven't. I just, you know, obviously I'm not going to be paired with them. the first two days. And the weekend, I've missed him a couple times by a group. But yeah, he adds such a dynamic to the tournaments. And the buzz is, it's completely different when he's at a tournament. I don't know how many events you guys have been out with him, but it is so different when he's there.
Starting point is 01:16:01 It doesn't matter who is in the field. So it's exciting. I hope he plays well. Those walks down one and up 18 will be interesting for him. But that help he plays well. I'm here. Where are you? When are you?
Starting point is 01:16:14 when are you getting here tomorrow morning i thought i'd decompress today i think the people playing with tiger i think on the walk on 18 and one i think maybe they just sort of everybody just kind of locks arms and maybe we maybe we carry him up and down very subtle just nobody make a big deal about it but just kind of piggyback ride just give him a piggyback ride no no no no that's too obvious i'm saying just like get on either side and just everybody kind of lift and walk and then that's you're paying homage and you make his life a little bit easy here. Nick Taylor, are you going to commit if you have to, to carry Tiger Woods
Starting point is 01:16:48 down the first T-box? I'm not strong enough to carry him. He's put on some muscle, it looks like. Someone said last someone said last week they should get one of those kind of elderly chairs that slide up sideways. I don't think he'd agree to that, but I think
Starting point is 01:17:07 everyone would be... Whatever he just tells people like, I have to go to the bathroom and they like bring the cart out and they like drive them to the bathroom, it happens to be down like by the fairway on one like he can really get creative with this like if he's on the 18th fairway and he's like guys i have to go like pee but just like wait until after i'm done with he like i need to get up this hill but first i'm going to pee after it so you have the drive the only thing standing in the way of any of this is tiger tiger tiger's the guy who
Starting point is 01:17:31 won't do it there everyone is willing to help everyone in the gallery every one of the players every one of the p even the p jor tour officials they would help him but he's the guy he'll carry him what's that joey'll carry him with the bag and everything he He won't. He'll be like, I'm walking down that hill and I'm walking up that hill. That's who he is. If he wanted to, he has the option. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:51 He's the only person to stop. Can you slide down? Can you, I've never been there. Can you slide on your butt down? No, it's like, where did you? Where did you that? Danny, you're on. I was Palm Springs, I think.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Yeah, it's kind of concretey. It's concretey here. I don't think you could do it. You know, doesn't really, what about what about the most. What if you roll down? Yeah, like a healy, like a healy situation. He'd have to break pretty quickly, but a helies would probably work. Yeah, a role.
Starting point is 01:18:15 You should approach Nike about the heelie. Yeah, well, they got to get a back in his shoe somehow. I said that when we first talked about this. Did you? Yeah, dude, I was like, we were thinking about all different ways. Like Joey carries him or, you know, he gets one of those. We saw in the airport a couple days ago where the one leg is down and the one leg is up and you sort of scoot around. I said put helies and just rip the fairways.
Starting point is 01:18:38 We still think he's going to be wearing like foot joy shoes again. Has Nike not figured that out yet? to just make him the same exact shoe he likes with just a Nike logo on it. What are we talking about? I feel like they have a pretty good budget for R&D. I'm pretty shocked. Isn't that nuts?
Starting point is 01:18:54 They're bringing back the Tiger 13s, the iconic shoes from 10 years ago. Maybe he'll be rocking those. But here's the thing. Everyone keeps saying like, oh, like their current shoe lineup doesn't fit his needs. Like don't make a one of one. He's Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Why is it be like, oh, maybe one day will come with the Tiger 13s again. R&D, they do have all the money in the world. Nike does. but we'll just go by a footjoy, rip off the FJ, put a swish on it, and that's it. That's the R&D. That's like boots on the ground. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:22 It's crazy that it's happening. Nick, what kind of, like, athlete are you, like, with your buddies? Are they allowed to, like, talk to you mid-tournament? Like, are you, like, back and forth with your friends about it? Or do you like to just completely shut off and then talk, like, post-round? I'll text with buddies. My phone was blown up Saturday night, so I barely looked at it. I knew that wasn't going to help anything.
Starting point is 01:19:43 thing. But yeah, I'll text with good close buddies. I had we had a good crew out actually at Pebble Beach. We had some friends come down and, you know, we had dinner with them almost every night. So, yeah, I definitely, I'll chat with them. But nights like, you know, Saturday night, I just wanted to shut it all off. I didn't really look at social media. I just kind of did my own thing. I knew it would just be a distraction and my mind would wander. So I didn't really need that going into Sunday. What did you do Saturday night, watch TV? I chase my son around probably with dinosaurs which is his
Starting point is 01:20:16 go-to currently So he got that app So he got that app on the phone with all the dinosaurs That he like checks out My nephews and he's got about 3,000 different dinosaur figuring So He enjoys Target
Starting point is 01:20:30 And we don't say no very often Yeah my nephew is six And he's obsessed with all the dinosaurs too He's got a million up but he's got the app and it's like, you know, he has him fight each other on the app nonstop. So it's all I hear about. It's like, who do you think is going to win between this and this? He's like, let's find out.
Starting point is 01:20:51 We're not quite there yet. But it's, I've found out 30 more dinosaurs than I ever knew existed in the last six months. So that's, that's been my challenge. Have you showed him Jurassic Park? Is that or not old enough for Jurassic Park? No, he's just over three. So he's a couple, like there's a dinosaur movie on Disney. He loves other stuff that will
Starting point is 01:21:11 What about land before time? Is that, is that? That was my personal favorite. He might have watched it for 10 minutes and Right. He's like, I don't want to watch this. They're probably terrible now, right?
Starting point is 01:21:21 It's probably feels really old. Have you shown him Singh or Sing 2 yet? Sing 2 was, I've seen that movie a hundred times. It's a great movie. How good is that movie though? I mean, for a, for a movie that a parent has to watch on a replay
Starting point is 01:21:35 on repeat, that's, you hit the golden ticket there because that is a fantastic flick. Sing one was a hit. Sing 2 was probably a bigger hit. He always used to yell he would yell Monkey Stars, which was Johnny's performance and he would dance around the house constantly with it. That's a great movie. I give a lot of recommendations for movies on this podcast and I'm telling you right now, Sing 2 is one of the better animated movies I've ever seen in my entire life. Frankie cried on a plane watching that. I cried on the plane at the end. Plains are emotional. I don't want to give the ending away, but like, I mean, you know what I'm
Starting point is 01:22:08 talk about it, Nick. That was, they really hit you with the heartstrings there. Bono, Bono steps up. Bono steps up. Fucking Bono. I got to watch this. I got to watch both of them. Yeah, you do. What was, yeah, you should watch the first one. Is there a new dinosaur like Jurassic Park movie commercial last night during the Super Bowl? Did you see this like early on? There was something. I think there's a new movie that has dinosaur aspects in it because I remember lights camera. 65 million years ago or something I saw, right? Wasn't that like at the beginning?
Starting point is 01:22:36 Yeah, it's like, it's another. franchise that's going back to like the dinosaur times i forget which one it was though fast and furious really good passing the dangerous then diesel's coming back as a terex that's what he's done dude nothing's off the table with that franchise nothing that's what makes it great uh all right nick we appreciate it man thank you very much for uh for jumping on amazing amazing week you handed yourself insanely well inside the ropes there. With those two heavyweights, you were right in there.
Starting point is 01:23:09 You should have 65 in the final round. You got yourself $2.18 million, which is fucking sick. I imagine that must be really cool. That's what I was to win a major like four, like three years ago. Right. Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Yeah. Wad Wednesday is going to be sweet on Wednesday. So I hope all that goes through successfully. Yeah, buy anything cool. Like, is there anything like, oh, now I'm just going to like get something just commemorate this week? I don't. I've,
Starting point is 01:23:33 maybe i don't i still drive around my 2010 Honda pilot so i don't wow amazing holy smokes that's awesome my wife gives me shit for that but i'll uh no we'll take our son to target which and we'll probably buy him a sweet dinosaur and then uh god say dude you can't you can't let him see that like you can't let him find out what this means that dad that dinosaur there's no concept of that yeah yeah okay all right he comes days like dad i've been crunching the numbers and we We can go down both aisles this week because we can afford a T-Rex and a carnatorous.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Amazing. All right, man. Good luck this week. Play well again and get that W. We appreciate it. Thanks, man. Talk to you soon. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Thanks. All right, big thanks to Nick joining. Great dude. First time I've ever really chatted with him. But progress, Canadian, very Canadian guy, obviously. That's a stunter. The progress? You hadn't heard the progress?
Starting point is 01:24:40 I just started recording my audio. But yeah, that was a stunner. I feel like I've talked to a lot of Canadians. Also, this son. As we're doing this podcast, I'm ordering a blackout shade because this is unacceptable. And I've talked to a lot of Canadians. I never heard progress before. I'm not sure if I heard progress either.
Starting point is 01:24:57 It's that one. And then when you talk to a guy like trotty and he says, aluminum. Trote. Netflix. So I mentioned it a few times briefly on the show, but the premiere is out. I watched the first episode, most of the first episode, laughed out loud at the part where they just describe what a birdie is, but we have on the show for months said that that's pretty much what they're going to have to do, and that is what they had to do. But I just couldn't. It made it seem like almost a parody video to me at first when they just described like,
Starting point is 01:25:34 they set a par as expected number of strokes at all and they put that graphic on the screen and i just was like yeah i mean this is going to be elementary for people that follow golf all time but it was good it was fascinating they're the private jet stuff with jordan and jt um was great and and obviously like that was another part where it's like if you're a golf fan like we've been fed the speed JT thing like to the point we were full and hadn't enough of it but like that's kind of what they led with still seeing them in the PJ and a bunch of the back and forth a bunch of behind the scenes type stuff I thought the coming up part actually at the end even like hype me up the most where they get Rory and and whatever so um so dan's in the show they uh feature you pretty prominently
Starting point is 01:26:22 a lot of the narration all that but you must feel I mean haven't gone to the premiere and all that you got feel pretty good that this puppy's out there now and that the full series is coming out of Wednesday. It's been a long time coming for sure. It's been like over a year. Yeah, I mean, I think, look, what you're saying with the Bertie and the PAR stuff, I just, I keep having to remind myself kind of what you were saying a couple podcasts ago, which is like the majority of the people who watch this, right, at least hopefully, the majority of the people who watch this are just going to see it on Netflix on Wednesday, right? They haven't been counting down the days like we are. They haven't been breaking it down. They haven't been reporting news about one
Starting point is 01:26:53 one guy signs on. They're just going to be like, oh, I might as well give this a try. And so yeah the show needs to be digestible for someone like that um the one thing that i will say for for hardcore golf fans is like the actual golf stuff you know i know what happens so i didn't i don't find that to be quite as right like riveting like were you were you watching all the way through the end of the of the jt episode or did you kind of zoom out no no i was watching yeah i thought even that like it reminded me too in the tiger dock when they go through the actual golf stuff i don't think they ever do a job of it. Like I do think there's a way to portray that in a pretty fascinating way. And they kind of just show like a side angle view of them like teeing off. And like they do that on every hole instead of like showing like what like that's not easy like to hit those shug on 18. It's like okay JT has a one stroke lead. And then again, they just show like this side view of them just swinging what looks like they just swing the same every time on every hole and it's the same. Whereas like that 18 full meter perera made a double like that 18 t shots crazy hard. And then. And then again, it looks like they just swing the same. And it looks like that 18th hole meter perera made a double like that 18 t shot's crazy hard. And they don't really show it.
Starting point is 01:27:57 They just kind of show them swinging. So the golf is always, for whatever reason, they don't in recap type stuff or documentaries. I never feel like they, they like showcase it particularly interestingly. And then the other thing is like it's not chronological, which I guess like that made sense that they kind of had to do it that way. It might be a little bit boring if they did. Whereas like they kind of start with like Hilton Head is like the first tournament they feature or something. And I'm like, that's after the master's tournament. And so it's like, that's a little nuts.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Like there should be built up to the Masters and Tiger Woods coming, which that's clearly going to come at some point, but like it not being before they talk about like Jordan Speed winning at the RBC Heritage. I was like, what? So a little bit of that of your golf fan was a little bit just kind of weird and confusing. But overall, I mean, it's it's must watch. I thought, I thought, like I was plugged in the whole time. I thought it was fucking fascinating.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Is the whole series being released on Wednesday or is it just every Wednesday? The whole series. The whole series comes live Wednesday at like 3 a.m. Eastern. Yeah, I mean, look, it's not a, you know, I've watched, because I'm a golf nerd. I've sure you guys, like the official film. You can watch the Open Championship official film or there's things. And those really take you through the tournament. And I guess that's kind of how I conceptualize this show, is it was just going to go from the start of the year to the end of the year and tell you the story of all the different tournaments.
Starting point is 01:29:20 That's also kind of what the F1 show does. Like, I think every episode is won Grand Prix. this show is about people. The golf and the golf tournaments are in the backgrounds. The show is about the people in the episode. So this first episode is all about JT and Speed. There's an episode that's all about Scotty Schaeffler and Brooks Kebka. There's an episode that's all about Colin Morikawa and Tony Feinawa.
Starting point is 01:29:41 So they jump all over the place time-wise. They really doubled down mostly on narratives. It's a very dramatic show. Some of it will probably make you roll your eyes and it feels every episode is very dramatic. But again, that's the stuff that's easy for middle. America to follow and we have to keep you know I didn't mean I mean way Trent I met people I'm you said it so can't you enjoy the show you said it so casual listen listen listen they j they dumped it down so your family can sit there and be like I like this the most disrespectful part of that
Starting point is 01:30:10 is you said it so casually that I know you been saying it a lot members could understand right you know I knew you said it so just like this is how I've been saying it that you've been saying it a lot and you've been you've been disrespectful to my part of the country for I was insane. However long you've been talking about it. Middle America. Come on. I meant I meant non-golf fans.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I meant average people who are just going to watch to see this. See this on Netflix. I bet you get your ass kick saying something like that. No, I know what you meant. It was a little disrespectful, but I know what you meant. I'm excited to watch it. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't watched the episode yet.
Starting point is 01:30:45 So I'm a little interested to see. It is interesting that they're not doing it chronologically. That's my main takeaway. from this conversation about the show. That's interesting to me. Yeah, it was like they kind of highlight, and again, I think they did it the right way with this,
Starting point is 01:31:00 but they're highlighting the Speeith JT thing. And then so because they're doing that and getting it into it early and this is what they've chose to lead with, they go into like speed winning at the RBC heritage and like what that week was like, which makes sense. But again, it kind of hit me as a surprise being like,
Starting point is 01:31:15 I know the whole calendar for the most part. Like we went through it and watched all the tournaments, whatever. But it is, I mean, getting those two guys, they're like FaceTime at each other and they talk about how Speed's the best man and giving a speech at JT's wedding and like they get into a lot of that stuff which is fucking fascinating. I mean, it's good. It's good. I mean, it's going to be must. It's going to be great. Like overall, it's going to be great stuff to watch. You can't really. It's still golf. So it's never going to be the last of us. It's not going to be like you have to watch the next episode to see what happens. It's just going to be fucking awesome to see these guys off the golf course. That's like what the series is. It's going to be great. It's going to be. great, we're going to enjoy the shit out of it. And then there's going to be a season two, and we're going to enjoy the shit out of that. I doubt that we'll ever have anything that's going to like, and maybe I'm wrong, Dan,
Starting point is 01:32:01 but like anything that's going to like make headlines. Like I feel like in the in the drive to survive, certain things were said that like that community is like, holy shit. I didn't know those guys felt like that about each other. And like it caused like crazy chaos on the on the track. There's a very, very prominent player who says, um, he just says, he says, he says fuck you Phil to the camera and I think that's people are gonna enjoy that it's gonna make it like wow this show is like giving us
Starting point is 01:32:28 the juice yeah there's maybe they'll tweak that for season two too too maybe they'll see like people want the juice a little bit more but guys are already like being much much leaning players are leaning into it much more you know I already saw it last week they're like and it's the same thing that happened with f1 where lewis hamilton wasn't in the first season and then he sees that it's really positive for the sport and people get a little bit of fomo that's happening now guys are like raising their hands we're like let's do it Let's do it. Let's do it. I think some of the guys who weren't in it before, John Rom, Max Homa, Sandra Shafley, wouldn't be surprised at all to see those guys in season two.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Yeah, there's going to be a lot, there's going to be a lot for, like, the really snarky golf fan to pick a part. Like you said, Riggs, I think there's somewhere in there where they say, oh, the RBC is a springboard for the rest of the year. It's like, well, technically speaking, no, but it works for the narrative. And this show is about the narrative. It's not about being completely accurate. I respect that. Right. I actually respect that when you break it down that way. I'm a narrative guy. We're a narrative podcast to a certain extent. So if that's what it's going to get the juice, then squeeze it that way. Did CBS do that talking to the player thing this week? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I saw Keith Mitchell did one last week, but I don't think they did it this week. Interesting. Yeah, some guys were saying that, like, Patrick Cantley was like, I'm never doing that. I think everyone was like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So Rom was like maybe, I think they'll do it.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Again, these guys have FOMO. You think they're above it, but they're not. If one guy's doing it and people are liking it, then the next thing. guy's going to want to do it. Because Raugh mentioned it to us before we recorded with him and he was just saying that they were asking him. I was wondering if they ended up doing it or not. It is hard to ask a guy to put a one earpiece in and hit a shot in contention. Like you're about to win three million dollars and like you're going to change up that guy's process. But of course, like Max is the fucking man that like he just didn't care about like what was going to happen or he's maybe done it more than most people so he can
Starting point is 01:34:15 figure it out. But it'll be interesting to see if they're able to get these guys to do it. actually hit a shot with one earpiece in his nuts. I think you got to do it. Didn't Max do it on a Thursday or Friday? Yeah. I don't, you can't. He did on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Saturday. Okay. Oh, wow. He did it on further than I thought. I was going to say that it's, you know, I think he did it on Friday, but the tournament finished on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:34:37 That's correct. And that's going back to what we were saying earlier when we just don't know what's going on with that. Right. Right. It was the third round. It was a third round. Third round is deeper than I would have thought, though. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:46 he played the whole well. I mean, I think, right, like he's like, yeah, I just have an earpiece in. Like, just everybody shut up for 30 seconds while I hit my shot. And then like,
Starting point is 01:34:53 and then I, like, it's not going to affect my physical. The physical balance, I'm saying. The physical balance to me, I think would throw me off. I mean,
Starting point is 01:35:00 he does the swing without an earpiece. So it's like, now you're just adding that. It just changes your professional. It sounds like, all right. Now this is, this is where you get in the territory where people like,
Starting point is 01:35:10 all right, golfers like fucking relax. But John Rom's said that. So I don't know, I don't know how it's, I don't know if I could do it. It's going to affect everybody different. for sure, but I could see plenty of people.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I feel like being like, yeah, throw an earpiece in there. Like sometimes I put a beanie on if it's cold that doesn't like ruin my entire golf. So, you know, it's like you can like I have something different on my head than I had before. Definitely depends on the person. AirPods pros are, you could feel those things, dude. Those things you can feel. That's a feel. That's like not a beanie on the head.
Starting point is 01:35:40 It's like you have something inside your opposite. Like I put AirPods pros in when I'm on the plane and I fall asleep. When I wake up, I forget that I have a minute. That's crazy. Dude, me and Frankie, we flew out, who knows where we were going. We were sitting next to each other. And a big topic of conversation was he had just gotten the new AirPods, I think. Yeah, it's my first month with them.
Starting point is 01:35:57 And he just couldn't believe. And I'm a little bit with him because when you put that AirPods pros in and you turn on the noise cancelling and then you take them out while you're on the plane, the world rushes back into you. Yeah, yeah, definitely. The world is so loud when you end up putting it on mute. And these AirPods pros put the world on mute, man. like it's gone everyone's gone it's just in your own world and the first time experienced than that legit i opened up air pod pros out of the box on a plane so like i went from chaos to just nothing like i feel like if i would have done that in like my like a quiet house it wouldn't have
Starting point is 01:36:35 i was like i drowned out like babies crying and engine roaring at 30 000 feet that was stunning i looked at tram like this is nuts so that that would take me a lot to hit a golf shot with all that in me but yeah it's case by case some some guys are going to do it and some guys aren't i yeah i don't know i feel like we would have seen it if somebody did it this last week we would have seen the whatever they put the clip out and they brag about doing it and the whole deal um speaking of max homum phenomenal club throw yesterday uh after just basically i think he topped one out of a fairway bunker gave it the full full treatment which i think 99% of people watching just love to see vault been there and furiating game even the people at the best max
Starting point is 01:37:17 Homa, his golf swing. People were starting to talk about how he's elevating himself up there in the conversation with the after the President's Cup performance, how much he's won in the last couple years, winning again at Tori Pines relatively recently. Here he is up there. And then for him to hit bad shots like that and get so frustrated, insanely relatable. I loved it. Obviously, he was embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:37:37 He tweeted about it afterwards. I think he said, like, impossible for me to look less cool or whatever. So clearly feels embarrassed about it. But I loved it. I loved the ferocity of it. it was incredibly it was up there with them like had to be as high a velocity on a club throw that I think I've ever seen yeah I've definitely never gone that in on a club throw I usually would do like a high like oh fuck like like like a joking one that was anger but he's also in a way
Starting point is 01:38:05 higher um like pressure situation than I'll ever be on a golf course so like I would assume that our club toss back to our bag and when we're pissed off is slightly less important than his when he's like in front of, you know, his hometown quote unquote now that he's in Scottsdale. Like that's his hometown crowd. He fucking loves that. That's his people love Max Homa at the waste management. So he probably takes it just a little bit more seriously than other people. And when you top one out of a bunker, you're going to get angry.
Starting point is 01:38:36 That was the club. That was the club throw of a guy who's been getting clubs for free for a very long time. It was aggressive. it was but it also shows that all that's in all of these guys like max is the most easy going you know relatable whatever words you want to use they've all got that in them and it's not a negative it's clearly a positive because it's what it takes to get to the top of an incredibly difficult sport i remember um kis had one of those club throws when we were filming a video with him he was he was just trying to play well against us i don't even know if the cameras caught it but i remember it happening and i was like kis is
Starting point is 01:39:12 like, Kiz is how people view Max where it's like super chill, like, you know, oh, I'll put the earpiece in and I'll play Tori Pines. Like, but you peel back enough layers. Those motherfuckers are very serious and they're very passionate. And again, I do think that's what it takes to get to that level. You, you can be the guy who throws in a lipper and drinks when you're playing with your buddies and the videos are hilarious. But at a certain point, those guys are fucking murderers and killers.
Starting point is 01:39:40 And it's, you know, it's just, it's, you have. to be that way. Yeah, it was aggressive. It was a very aggressive club throw. I loved it. I loved every second of it. And yeah, I hope we see more of that kind of stuff. It's fucking, it's real.
Starting point is 01:39:53 It's raw. It happens part of the deal. Shout out to Josh Hesner. I don't know if you were already going to do that, but Saturday, the setup, Josh Hizner is the guy that we obviously talk about a lot. I locked him out of his house. I locked myself out of his house at Pebble Beach. He won't let me live that down every time I see him.
Starting point is 01:40:11 But that's Saturday at the Waste Matter. management man. Holy shit. That axon center. Now I know why Lurch has like five different jobs and one of them's axon. I mean, they're set up at the waste management open is out of control. You're talking like Bryce Harper and Juan Soto were sitting behind us. Like they're like, how did you guys get in there? We're like we're fucking axon people. Like that's how we got in. Like we're looking at them being like we were first row on 16. So you're just at. And what I would say is an all time, an all time sporting event to yet and you're just at the best seat in the house. So did not take that for granted for one second,
Starting point is 01:40:46 an amazing, amazing event. You were sitting courtside at an NBA finals game, basically. And to be, and to be honest, like, I mean, like, Devin Booker and Chris Paul were just like walked right in front of us. And we're just like, yeah, we are like courtside NBA basketball games. So it was fucking nuts. And we sat next to Dave Portnoy. That was fun to watch him experience a golf event like that.
Starting point is 01:41:04 He was loving the fact that there was a quiet sign guy on the T-box who had to try and quiet the crowd at, you know, this full stadium of people and he's just like holding up quiet place and everyone's like bowing I'm like fuck you no chance um but it was fun man a lot of fun to watch that and and mrs portnoy was there savannah so like they got they enjoyed it it's he can tell like every age group man woman child they all fucking love that event it's not boring it's exciting there's celebrities good golf the players are into it the views are incredible 100 out of 100 i would say is my great yeah we love the phoenix open we're big fans we do sure i mean josh isner's the man he sets
Starting point is 01:41:49 everybody up i he's just the most generous person in the world but we're going to dust him in a couple weeks of the dead body class so i'm not going to be overly friendly to him until the end of that event so good for him that's but really the most generous guy i think i've ever met he makes me like cry like i want to cry thinking about how nice that guy is bro we went to fucking dame matthews he got us that was great that was fucking unbelievable god dave matthews is so good live it's disgusting. It's truly disgusting. I was a little nervous about it. I was a little nervous about going to the concert just because I never quite know how to act at a concert. I'm not like I don't know if I should just
Starting point is 01:42:23 sway or dance or or belt my little heart out and, you know, sing the lyrics to crash into me. And we were going with a with a with a cool crew, an interesting crew. And I just didn't know what to do. I just, I did a lot of swang. That was my answer to everything. I did a little swing, a little head nodding, a little bit of singing. When Gray Street came on, on it. The hips got a little bit loose. But other than that, I kept it pretty together. We had a great crew that everyone was into it. Like, I mean, Lurch definitely brings the vibes of, like, bouncing around. And I'm always just, like, locked in on the drummer. So, like, I kind of get lost in all that. And obviously, Carter Beauford is the greatest drummer, like,
Starting point is 01:42:58 ever on any given night. He's unbelievable. I mean, he actually ended up meeting Dave Grohl at the end of the show. And I could have been back there for backstage passes. But Dave kept the backstage passes in his pocket by accident when he left. So that was a, that was a huge miss. I don't know if he saw any of that rigs. Dave had backstage passes his pocket because Josh just like also gave that to Dave. I mean, he just has everything on him. I don't know how Josh has all this stuff. But he's like, yeah, you can go meet the band after. And Dave was like, I think I'm going to head out because I think they were going to Drake or something. So he goes out. And then we were like, we text him. We're like, do you still have the passes in your pocket? Because like Frank, it would love to meet
Starting point is 01:43:32 Dave Matthews. And then he's like, yeah, I gave them to a security guard. And they're going to put them back like in your guy's area, like the sweet area. So then like two songs went by. encore went by. We went back. We have to go back to get these passes because like the meeting greet's at 11. It's 10.58. We go back. There's no passes. So the security guard must have just either like went to their own suite or gave them to somebody random or just held on to him and just kind of told Dave, like, yeah, I'll do it and just didn't. So I'm like, you know what, Josh? It doesn't matter, dude. Like, I don't need to meet Dave Matthews. Thank you for everything. This has been an amazing night. We're in the car on our way home. And I look on Instagram and like I follow like a Dave Grohl fan page that
Starting point is 01:44:06 shows you where he is at all moments. And it's called like Disco Grohl for anyone that wants to follow it. And Disco Girl put up Dave Matthews and Dave Grohl backstage at his concert post, like post concert. And I looked at this picture and I kind of just like, I honestly thought about opening up the door and just like rolling out of the car because I just, I couldn't believe that my, my guy was back there talking to like my other, my top two drummers of all time. we're just like there's a picture of them hugging so yeah it was tough that's absolutely devastating
Starting point is 01:44:41 uh Josh said that I probably wouldn't have met Dave which was a which is a way that I'm able to sleep because apparently he said he found out from someone he knows everybody at Dave Matthew's that he that they kind of blocked off that area until Dave Grohl was done with the band and then they all let the meet and greet come in that's what I was thinking I almost text that to because you texting me like two a.m. being like Dave Grohl was backstage and I thought about it like no way is Dave Grohl just meeting the band with other people who are out there. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:08 He's fucking Dave Grohl. He's probably got his own little time with the band. Yeah. I was able to sleep because of that, but still just knowing your back there. Yeah. It would have been cool. All right. For the cut, bet.
Starting point is 01:45:19 So we got a Riviera. We got a big week. We got Genesis Tiger, the whole deal. We got to keep our train rolling. Yeah, we didn't win last week. But we're still rolling. I mean, you look at the, you're up a bazillion dollars if you're betting with us on the for the cut bet throughout the whole.
Starting point is 01:45:33 tenure thus far. So we've got to keep this thing rolling on the Barstall Sportsbook. I've been red hot on the Barstall's sports book. I had the Chiefs last night as well. I saw Trent Daddy had that. Did you have that, Frankie? Yep.
Starting point is 01:45:44 We all had that. I had a little small wager on the Chief as well. There we go. Four for four right here on that. I had a big win at the Duke UNC game when I went to Cameron Indoor a couple weeks ago. So that was nice. And then obviously I had the huge hit with Jason Day.
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Starting point is 01:46:37 that he earned by winning the Barstowell Mee Golf Tournament. And then he put it, what, Friday night on Zander Schauchley to win the tournament. And then he came out red hot and was leading the tournament the next day before fizzling, but it was like 15 grand to win 104 grand or something like that. Now, would he have won the whole 104 grand?
Starting point is 01:46:56 And was Dave only giving him the 15,000? I think he would have won at all. I don't know. I think it was a chance to win that money for sure really I thought I originally read it as it's a chance to win 15,000 you have to just win your bet and then you get that you know what I mean so it's like and then Dave also made the money on top I didn't know that he was I mean I could be wrong but I think like when he's given those out to spider all them when they win they get got you gotcha gotcha yeah yeah that's the way I took it because otherwise you would just take something that'd be like way that's what that's what I was thinking okay because I was like why would he pick something that's so outrageously impossible you just get more money yeah sure Because I think he's trying to get all the money. I think he, yes, we could have went over 100 grand. So a big bold choice by him. But anyways, we're back for the four-the-cut bet.
Starting point is 01:47:39 So we got a decision to make here. Yeah. Who's going to be the guy? Who's going to be the guy to do it? We'll all go first. I'll take Adam Scott. Not the guy you were thinking of. No, not the guy I was thinking of.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Three top seven finishes in his last four starts here. He won the tournament in 2020. Loves Rivera. Hasn't played since Hawaii. People kind of forgotten about him. He goes off to Australia, does whatever he does. Who knows? He's back.
Starting point is 01:48:01 He loves Rivera. Adam Scott's my pick. And now you guys can make the decision. Okay, I'll make my pick. I'm going with Alex Noren. Fuck. Didn't do any research on why. I was scrolling the names in the field, which, again, this is kind of the strategy every week, for me at least.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I saw his name. I actually saw him last week. I saw him practicing. The swing look good. The ball flight looked good. So I'm going to go with Alex Norn. Frankie, who are you going to go with? I'm going to let Riggs make a decision first.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Wow, you are. That's interesting. Someone's got to. Okay, so my decision is not going to impact yours, I don't think, at all. I was in a position where I thought this would have been chosen already. I'm going to take a bold one that I think could cost us the entire for the cut bet, but also could boost the odds dramatically. A guy who's a friend of the program who played in the final round of the players championship with Justin Thomas a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:49:01 has missed, let's see, one, two, three, four, five tournaments. He's missed the cut in five of his last six tournaments and the other one was a WD. But he almost won the U.S. Ambiter here, losing in the final round to Doc Redmond, friend of the program. We're going to go with Doug Gim. Fucking hell, man. That's a good one. I like that a lot. That's going to boost the odds for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:29 he's like, plus 50,000 to win the tournament. There's no chance he wins a tournament. There's zero percent chance to win this tournament. We don't even win the tournament. The odds and the odds seem to be higher for us. We seem to perform well. So Frankie,
Starting point is 01:49:44 so we've got three guys so far, Riviera, big tournament. People really like this tournament, hosted by a pretty important guy. Do you have, you got a name in mind, Frank? Well, the Barstles Sports
Starting point is 01:49:59 book's going to have to get to work right now because who knows what this price is going to be looking at what this plus number is going to say because I'm picking tiger fucking wood to make the cut at Riviera. He's back. If you don't think we were picking him, you have a big old fat dump in your pants. Dude, imagine if we had put out before the cut graphic. That's a great pick. Imagine we put that out and Tiger Woods isn't on that graphic. That would have been insane. That's, I mean, we have to pick it. We have to pick it. I think the showmanship was there. We left it for the end. We did. We left it there. But Tiger Woods was always going to be. I just, I thought one of you were going to sneak in there and get it before me because it's just now everyone's going to be, well, you're fucking Tiger Woods dick sucker and you're going to ruin the bet. This guy, yes I am.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Yes, I am. Noted. And we are going to win this bet. Okay. Tiger Woods is making the cut here. He's not just showing up to sign fucking hats and kiss babies. He's showing up to win. You don't think he's going to make it the Saturday?
Starting point is 01:50:57 Fuck you. Fuck, he's the best golf for all time. You don't think I'm picking him to make the cut? He can make the cut in his fucking sleep. We're going to get some good odds too, because we got Woods, who hasn't played a PJ tour event in two years, over two years.
Starting point is 01:51:11 And we got Doug Jim. He hasn't made a cut since like before the pandemic. And so we've got two of them on the list. I like it. I like it. Dude, I love it. I think this is going to be a big one. Imagine the hype there's going to be when we all bet it
Starting point is 01:51:27 And everyone, I'll tell you what, when we're in public, especially when we were out of the waste management, people were, they couldn't get to us fast enough to talk about the for the cut bet. They love it. So there's going to be a lot of people betting it. We're obviously going to bet it. And then the juice there's going to be when Tiger Woods makes the cut. Think about how good that's going to feel. And we're all going to make money. And Tiger is going to be playing on Saturday and Sunday.
Starting point is 01:51:49 It's going to be fucking awesome. It gives us that like consolation celebration where it's like he might not win the tournament, but we get to celebrate like Friday of. Tiger Woods, like, we get to watch meaningful golf from Tiger Woods in our world. You know what I mean? Even if he's fucking seven back, we're like, he's grinding to get on this fucking line. Dude, the, the over under for his first round is 73 and a half, which is two and a half over par. That's pretty, it's pretty disrespectful. No one's seen him hit a shot, like without a golf cart, like seven years.
Starting point is 01:52:25 guys forgotten guys forgotten greater moments of golf that we could ever conceive of he's going to that's an under for sure to keep the optimism and the positivity going now that Frankie took a one woods to make the cut our boy Alistair Docherty with a top 20
Starting point is 01:52:41 finish this last week in Columbia well done he volts up to 56th in the points list through four events he finishes top 30 in the points list he gets his PGA tour card first event of the year he finished tied for 31st, then he went miscut, miscut.
Starting point is 01:52:57 Then he finished tied for 19th, which is their last week playing for like four or five weeks. So he just got back to Arizona. What a great way to go into this little early break of the season. So shout to Alastair. He's registered a little over $17,000 this far on the corn fairy tour. It's very early in the year. He's halfway through his first eight guaranteed starts. But this was a big week.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Obviously, T-31, the first week. Yeah, he started that with an eagle. He thought he could have posted even better. conditions. Then you go MCMC and you're thinking, oh, no. It's a rebound with the top 20, finishing 19th. Fantastic stuff from Alistair and our boy, Sam. So congrats to them. Hopefully they keep this train rolling when they get back in March, back out on the court ferry tour. Congratulations. I think that's all I got. Oh, we want to talk about these fucking UFOs that are all over the place in North America now. We're being attacked by aliens. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:53:49 like we just can't, we can't believe it until we see it. It's one of the situations where it's like everyone has to just say, no, it's not until we see the beams coming down in New York City and we're getting zapped up into a fucking UFO because they're never going to tell us. And I can't, I have too much going on in my life that like, I know I like to get into all this stuff and I have a lot of things come across my desk. And I like to tell you guys that like I have a lot of fears about the outer space and after death and all this stuff. The fact that we're seeing these things happening and they're just not telling us the truth makes me so it's like it's so meaningless to even get worked up in it because they're never going to tell us what it is.
Starting point is 01:54:26 You know what I mean? They're already saying like now we can't get to the debris. It's like, whatever, man. You're never going to tell me anyway. And like, why even, why should I wait up at night waiting for these fucking tweets from like these inside sources on Twitter? I'm typing an alien UFO every five seconds as if I'm going to find something. You know what I mean? That's where I'm getting so frustrated.
Starting point is 01:54:43 As if I'm going to find a tweet that's like, actually, dude, I saw this fucking alien walking across highway like 95 and like it's here. Like, I'm not finding shit. And like, I don't know, man. I wouldn't say I got duped, but I got mini duped yesterday. I was trying to catch up on this stuff. Super Bowl's going on the whole deal. And I just was, I typed in like UFO or whatever because I hadn't really, I hadn't really been up to date.
Starting point is 01:55:07 And like one of the first video replies that weighs down was like actual footage of the alien like wreckage. And it was like they drove by and it was like a stormtrooper from Star Wars. It's like that looked really realistic standing next to. like an engine from a UFO that had fallen out or something. And I laughed pretty good at that. But yeah, I mean, we're shooting down, you know, unknown, unknown, unidentified flying objects. The guy from the Air Force, it was a general or somebody that quotes going around where they asked him like, are you ruling out aliens? And he was like, I'm not ruling out anything at this point.
Starting point is 01:55:43 So that one's making the rounds. But yeah, I think they shot down. Octagon shaped ships that are, they don't understand how they're flying. They see no propelling, propelling thing. Propulsion. Propulsion. Signs of propulsion. They can't figure out how this thing is staying up and going down.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Now, what's more scary to you guys, that these are aliens or that China has technology that like our Air Force is looking at it being like, how the fuck are those things flying? And like, what are they? You know what I mean? Because like it's either aliens or it's not. And if it's not, that's something. man made that is causing the world to be like, what is this? I think that's what you got to be more afraid of. Yeah. China's scary. Like,
Starting point is 01:56:32 that makes sense, right? Like, it's somebody. It's something. It's not nothing. So it's someone made this thing that's impossible. I feel like in the back of some people's heads, they're like, oh, it's not aliens. Like, that's fine. Like, well, then if it's not, what is it then? Because it's, it's, it's the magician conversation all over again. Exactly. It's either he's doing magic or he needs to be jailed because he's manipulating our minds. Or they have the same exact. Why don't they tell us what it is? They don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:59 They don't know. I don't think they know. And like is it like some like whatever like some regular citizen in China or somewhere from that world that's like setting these things over and like China's government has no idea? Maybe I don't know the answers. But like that person has technology that our Air Force doesn't even know how to fucking track. They can't even track these things. Here's my stance on it is that when the aliens show up, they're not going to show up like clumsily.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Right? Like they're not right but like we don't know where with like their accidental octagon thing got shot down or no they're not if they're coming over here. It's like they got their ducks in a row baby. They made it to earth. They made it to a different planet with their own things that fly around. They're not coming in like half ass. They're not coming in a little like, oh, we kind of discovered them and shot them out of the sky. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:57:46 That's not the way that they're going to come in. They could have always been here and they were in the ice caps in Antarctica and now they're fucking melting and now they're starting to fly out of their little. Well, then they're idiots. If they were like, I got stuck in the ice caps for tens of thousands of years. We're a bunch of fucking idiot. I'd also say the, the quote that's going around from the Air Force guy or wherever he's from about like,
Starting point is 01:58:03 I'm not going to comment on any of this. Probably in context or with protocols, that's a pretty standard response. But when you put it on Twitter, it's like, oh, well, then it's aliens.
Starting point is 01:58:13 But if you're asking a guy from the U.S. military to speculate on a situation, he's not going to give you like, well, it's aliens or that it's not aliens. He's going to wait for all the facts to come. And that's the thing. Like when you,
Starting point is 01:58:24 when you're dealing with a guy like that, you're dealing with a guy who has got people he has to answer to and protocols are in place to deal with the public when something like this happens. It's not a guy on Twitter who can just say whatever he wants and be like, oh, I don't know what it is. It could be anything. So that quote is is less bombastic to me than it's being portrayed.
Starting point is 01:58:43 But it is still interesting that they don't know what it is or they're not telling us or whatever it may be. It's certainly a very odd situation. Way more scary if it's a person. I'll agree with you guys on that way more scary. Second of all, what if they've always just been doing this, if it is aliens? What if they've always just been sending these little things just to monitor us, to kind of do GPS, like awareness, kind of fly around, see if they can go undetected.
Starting point is 01:59:07 And we're just in the point of our evolution as a human species that we've been able to just start to like see these things, right? Like I feel like in the world, in the length of the universe in our world, there's probably probably only been probably only been like a 20 year window that we can even see these things like f-22s are flying around now we have our own GPS systems that we're flying in satellites all this stuff but like 1950s we weren't fucking looking up in the sky seeing all these like we barely had enough technology to see on the ground you think we can see aliens well now we're in like a really small pocket where it's like holy shit what's this little blip on a radar on top of fucking
Starting point is 01:59:44 antarctica or on top of Alaska like that's only been we've only been allowed to do that for a couple of years if you think about the history of humanity. So that's a little scary that they may have been doing this forever. The argument against like people now witnessing a UFO in the sky is there was a long time before everyone was holding a camera. Now everyone's holding a camera. So the argument was like if these things are actually happening. And Neil DeGrasse Tyson says that.
Starting point is 02:00:11 He gets very mad at that. He's like, we have seven billion people on the planet. And you're telling me every single time we see a UFO and it's an alien, it's on some grainy, like some grainy. Nokia phone that like no one can see. And like it's always like, oh, what is it? It's like, we have technology to see these things. Right. He gets angry because it's a rational thought that no one will listen to because everyone holds a camera and they're literally a high-deaf camera. And if all these things were happening as many times as people say they are, then a certain percentage of people would have seen them and video them on their phone. But now we're shooting them
Starting point is 02:00:42 down because now things are happening. Now we're actually saying that they are there, whether it's human made or alien made. And now we're shooting them. down because they're posing a threat to the crown because they have things falling off of them and they were carrying something on a little string. I don't know what's going on. I don't like it. I'll tell you that. I don't like it either. I felt better when this wasn't going on. Yes, that's facts. All right. Long show. We got big thanks to Nick Taylor joining the show for the cut bet. We got Adam Scott. We got Norrin, Doug Kim, Tiger Woods. Alex Doran, Trent liked his ball flight on the range. So we're in good shit. That was the best.
Starting point is 02:01:19 He said swing look good as though you're going to say that swing look bad. I fucking love it. Have you ever seen a PJ toy player with bad ball flight? Like, oh, that guy's ball flight's off. God, he's bad ball flight. Brutal over there. Don't pick him to make the cut. All right.
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