Fore Play - Olympics, Ancient Greece And Stuff

Episode Date: July 27, 2021

Do we like the Olympics? The different events? The pageantry? We give our thoughts now that the Olympics have officially begun. Also: Rahm has tested positive for Covid (again); Bryson too; Oosthuizen... continues his runner-up streak; Cam Champ racks up his 3rd Tour win; Riggs returns from a Wisconsin golf trip; Frankie played with some good guys who play hard.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, present my barstool sports. It's Olympic week, which is weird. I'm sure we're going to get into some Olympic talk, but we got myself, Frankie, Trent. We've had a double COVID test from John Rom, which I'm sure we'll get into. But gentlemen, hello, how are we? Do you guys like the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:00:27 Not in a golf set, but like just in terms of, like watching the events as they go on. Love it. I love the pageantry of it. I love like the national anthems and the podiums and the fact that like some person stands taller than the next while their flag gets ray. I think it's fantastic. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I love the ancient Greek ties. I love everything about it. I love the Olympics in general. I love the logos. I love the, I love the flags. I love the fact that I sit there and watch archery for an hour. And it's the most electric thing I've ever seen. Shout out to Korea, who's just the.
Starting point is 00:01:00 the best archers. Is that who they are? Probably archers. Yeah, I think so. Just the best archers on the planet and they're so electric every time they get like a bullseye, they scream at the top of their lungs. It's just probably the most intimidating team to play in anything.
Starting point is 00:01:16 But yeah, I love the Olympics, man. And honestly, it just opens your eyes to just how athletic some people are. Like you watch baseball, hockey, football, basketball, and golf. And like, you just don't realize that they're like, Water polo. I know we've talked about water polo. When you watch water polo in the Olympics, you can't understand how it's happening. You're like, these people are just treading water for 60 minutes. And then when they shoot and it gets blocked, they swim in Olympic-sized pool back to defense and they tread water again. And they never grab onto anything. Dude, think about this. Like, if you're not great at track and field or something,
Starting point is 00:01:55 you just run slower than the other people. If you're like, if we try to do water polo, we just drown and are at the bottom. I just don't get it. I don't get how it's physically possible. Like how they were like, oh yeah, this is a safe sport for us to play. Let's do that. I'm pretty sure on this show I've talked shit about the Olympics in the past, about how it's kind of boring and I don't get that into it.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I have pulled a complete 180 and now I just watch everything that's on. The other night I watched handball for two hours. And I just stared at handball for two hours and it was amazing. It's just on. And it doesn't even matter. I don't know if it's live or not. I have no idea because it's, I don't know what time it's on. I don't know if it's actually happening, but it's just something to watch at night.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Dude, it's like a box of like chocolates. Like you just turn it on. You have no idea what's going to be on. It could be archery. It could be swimming, water, like you don't know what's going to be on. You know if you just throw on like the Olympics channel that you're going to get something cool you haven't seen before. So yeah, I'm very into it. I will say the golf is going to be 6.30 p.m. until 3.30 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:54 is when the golf's going to happen, which, again, it's going to be, who knows how much of that will actually. will actually catch how much we won't. But yeah, I think we're all in on the Olympics at this point, which I'm happy about. It's also funny seeing Olympians stand next to regular people. And the example that I saw was I think Michael Phelps was standing next to Mike Torrico. And the difference is stunning. Michael Phelps is like 6'6, and he's just perfectly built to be an Olympic gold medalist swimmer. And then, no offense to Mike Toriko, but I think he's a smaller guy anyway.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But standing next to Michael Phelps, you just see what type of specimens these people are. And it's really quite jarring, honestly. It really is. Yeah. I noticed too, Phelts was talking about swimming last night and he was weighing in and giving some analysis on some different races. And I'm just so dumb when it comes to sports. I was like, no, it's just simple. You just swim in one direction faster.
Starting point is 00:03:49 That's really it. But there's like the drag that you get from one lane to the next. If you're a little bit behind, then you're going through. like waves and if you're going through that it's actually harder to go faster and then like a certain technique the way they kick off the fact that like we are just not familiar with these sports and don't realize what actually goes into it and the strategy it's awesome it's cool to immerse yourself in it I think I saw might have been Clem or somebody with a tweet that was like I love how we all just become in our own minds kind of experts on how they're judging stuff but actually we don't know how
Starting point is 00:04:23 they're judging stuff like during you know gymnastics it's like everyone's just flipping around doing circles and you're like yeah that was really good but like one can actually be significantly better than the other and you just have no clue when you're watching i saw someone say imagine being better than like seven billion other people on the planet except for like one other person how how like rattling that must be like becoming like being a a serial silver medalist like you just can never get it done and like you're always losing to one person or like growing up in a Michael Phelps Katie Ledeckierra where it's just like I am better than everyone else on the planet except for one person and the margins are so small they're so small it's
Starting point is 00:05:07 it's less than half a second and then you're like damn I just lost and now I get the silver medal it almost seems unfair like there should be like you both just raced so well you're so close that's just like it seems preposterous that that little touching of the wall changes the entire thing but it does. Owens Mixers. We've got to hit up our title sponsor, our presenting sponsor. They've been our presenting sponsor for over a year now. They came up with their own drink with us.
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Starting point is 00:06:19 That doesn't surprise me. just not much property I guess like in Nassau County we like have a we have a backyard with a pool but like a little sliver of grass and then like two slivers of grass in the front and like we've always had just like landscapers I feel like landscapers are big in Nassau County specifically where like they'll just go down the street and just knock out those little slivers of grass and be on their way never did that and then went to the city obviously didn't even in the city so I've really never never had my hands on the rig I miss mowing lawns a little bit. It's actually like a, it's a calming, soothing, maybe even a meditative experience. You just go and keep going in squares and squares and squares and it gets smaller and smaller. I've mowed, I think I've mowed hundreds of lawns in my life. Probably the same two lawns I used to mow the lawn where I grew up like once a week and then I've mowed my grandpa's lawn once a week.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So I would do that. I did that for years. It's nice. Throw on some headphones. It's a good time. It's very satisfying because you You simplify your life for like an hour Where it's like this is the task
Starting point is 00:07:27 And I'm just going to finish the task And it's very visual You can just see that you're like Finishing the task And once you're done it looks more beautiful And you're like I did that everyone That was me Right for the most part
Starting point is 00:07:38 We wake up in the morning We're like I don't know what's going to happen This is just the most confusing thing That's ever happened Waking up in the morning I don't know where my life is going to go But when you were right when you mow a lawn, you just know what to do.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And then when you're done, it looks beautiful. And then it grows back like a week, week and a half, two weeks later. And you just do it all over again. It's great. I'm looking forward to doing it. Hopefully when I get a house, I can get a nice lawnmower and I can have that time to myself. I think that that's a nice thing. I also love the aesthetics of it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And what you're saying that, it's like pleasing and satisfying to look at. I am obsessed. And I used to be like this. I was such a weird kid. When I was, I definitely used to be a weird kid. When I was like in literally baseball, I would like be obsessed with the guys getting the baseball field ready. And like I loved the idea of watering the infield because it was so like there was so much like satisfaction to watching a dry infield get sprayed by a hose and get darker. And you like get every little crevice of the dirt and you move your way from like third base to first base.
Starting point is 00:08:42 When I used to go to Yankee games, I couldn't keep my eyes off the guys getting the field ready. And I think that kind of bled into like behind the greens, man. You would love mowing a lawn. Oh. You would love it. I think that's why I love behind the greens so much. Like watching guys just spray grass and like cut grass. Like there's something about that.
Starting point is 00:08:59 My whole life that I've loved. Maybe it's because I've never done it myself. We got to get this guy a lawn to mow. We got to film a video of you mowing a lawn. Like that would be just watch you go through it. How great would it be if we did a behind the greens like super dramatic video of you just mowing a lawn? we should do it yeah that would be nice let me get a lawn first and then maybe we can do a behind the greens with like scott's lawn care i like i do i do it i do it's great idea you're gonna love it Trent, did you have like a riding one or do you have a pusher?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Push. Yeah. Me and my brother weren't. Yeah, the yards weren't like big enough for to justify a riding mower necessarily. So it was all push, which I, which I didn't mind at all. I remember like me and my brother, we had two of the pushers. They're both really old school. We were just like tag team it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 We came up with like a plan and then we kind of just became like we just knew that plan and we executed that plan like once a week. And then eventually when we grew out of it, we all went to school. I remember my mom got like a John D. you're riding lawnmower and then she became obsessed with she would just be like no i'll handle the lawn and she could boy she could just whip that thing around the lawn and and have it looking damper beautiful clean in like 10 minutes it felt like whereas it used to take us forever to fucking run those things my buddy was in uh he was like in some midwest state the other day for a wedding and he sent me a snapchat of yeah i don't know one of those we're all this we're just all the same
Starting point is 00:10:24 one of those all the midwest states and he sent me a state he sent me a state state the other Snapchat of the dude across the street mowing his lawn in like an outfield baseball pattern where it was like this way and that way. And it was just like that guy had it so mint. Oh my God. I got a really good laugh out of that because why are you doing that? When you get older, I think what happens is your lawn becomes very important to you. Like it just becomes a point of pride.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You see the other lawns in the neighborhood and you want yours to look the best. You don't want. I don't know. It just seems like when you read it. each a certain age, 40, 45, 50, the lawn sort of takes over your life. So that's something you got to look forward to as well. I was going to say a neighbor's lawns seem to be just as important. Like whether it's shit talking or getting angry about like the way it makes the street
Starting point is 00:11:12 look, the town look. Like I feel like people's lawns are often looked down upon, right? And like there's a lot of animosity when it comes to lawn care. Yes. I think too for people, like it becomes one of the few things in your life that's like, yours and you control it. It's like up to you. And it's like your piece of the earth that you have to take care of.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It's like kind of funny. It's like your duty. You're like, this is my earth part here. I got this, everybody. And then if somebody's dragging next to you, you're like, what the fuck, man? Come on. That's your part of the earth. Figure it out.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's very important. All right. We had a little bit of golf this weekend. Cam Champ won. what a weird sort of resume he's got. He won the 3M part of the 18th hole after pulling driver. Everybody freaked out, but he ended up just making a par anyways. Won by a couple shots.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Third career PGA Tour title. First amazing fact of that is that's more than Tony Fienau and Louis Usta isn't combined in terms of PJA Tour wins. That's mean that you put that in there. That's just mean. That's a mean statistic that you said to put on this show. Interesting statistic that I saw on Twitter and I thought I would re-due. Gurgitate it here on the show.
Starting point is 00:12:27 A lot of guys you could pull stats from that that probably add up to less than that as well. But Tony Feina and Louis Oostahusen are always going to get just the shit end of the stick when it comes to comparing stats. Two guys who have stacked up the most cash the last three or four years, but they still just get shit all over when a guy like Cameron Champ wins. And then we put in a statistic that, you know, he's won more than Louis and Tony combined. You know, it's unfortunately part of their own doing, but they're, you know, they're living pretty nicely. he cam champ had made one cut since before the pGA championship um so he's just been missing cuts left and right he had no top 10 no top 10 since october at the zozo and then he just appears and wins so it really got to speak to the game how ridiculous it is i think he was like high 180s or 200th or
Starting point is 00:13:20 something coming in and strokes gained putting and then he was just number one by a billion you know strokes game this week in the Strokes St. St. St. Pudding category. So it just goes to show you, man, any day, any week, anything can change a little bit. All of a sudden, your game clicks, and it can go the other way really quickly, as we've talked about a million times, where you could just lose it. But yeah, he had a pretty, you know, he had a cool, a few comments I thought in his presser afterwards, mostly just kind of highlighting the fact that I needed to, I needed to figure out how to, you know, be happy with, like, my life and be more than just a golfer that I'm like, my husband.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I'm a, you know, a family man. I have friends and that that's way more important. Remind me a little bit of kind of the Matt Wolf stuff that we heard, you know, during the U.S. Open and since the U.S. Open, which is incredibly important. So, yeah, Cam Chant comes out of the clouds and wins. He's got three wins. Amazing. He's got three wins.
Starting point is 00:14:12 How old is this guy? He's super young, yeah? 26. All right. What did you think about him pulling driver on 18? I know I know Frank Nablo and Colt Nost had like a connipion that that was happening. You know, he hit it into the ship, but like, it didn't. seem like that big of a deal. No, I liked it because he addressed it afterwards and he's like, that's just a driver hole for me a hundred times out of a hundred.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So I'm pulling driver. I'm not going to change that because of the city like, you know, I feel like he almost came off like he's, he'd be more putting more pressure on himself to change the strategy and then be like, ooh, you're doing outside of the way that we said we were going to play the course. Whereas he's like, nope, is the driver hole. I'm playing the hole. I'm going to hit driver. That's pretty much what he did.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And it worked out. Yeah, I also saw that, you know, Ricky Fowler, my guy, my fellow stablemate, he was making a run out at this weekend. And then he made an eight on 18 one of the days, I believe that was Saturday. And what I want to say is that we just got to eliminate eights from the card. I think that's like the Till gang mentality at this point. You just can't make eights. If you make eights, you're not going to get where you're going. Ricky Fowler, it's a PJ Tour win.
Starting point is 00:15:20 For me, it's to eventually break 100. so if we can just eliminate the 8th, that 18th hole was fucking people up all weekend. It was just slaughtering people. I saw like every time... Who made a 12? Somebody made a 12.
Starting point is 00:15:36 There was like a G.J. Torters tweeted out like a graphic of where all the shots went when a person made it 12 at 18. It was like, what is going on with this hole? But yeah, I think if we're being honest, as a golf podcast, you know, the Till Gang eliminating 8s, I think would help. Definitely. Across the board.
Starting point is 00:15:51 across the board you know all till gang members yeah I'm one of them and I want to I want to eliminate eights I know you're looking at me you're not looking at Ricky Fowler you got what a little frog on my throat speaking of slick Rick
Starting point is 00:16:09 I've noticed that he's been coming up you see this right now hold on speaking of slick Rick I've noticed that he's been coming out with the all black outfits recently remember when we had that conversation about should Ricky Fowler like rejuvening Juvenate his look and reinvent himself to no longer being the color, you know, the color of a Sharpie pen when it comes, or the highlighters, when it's the all orange popsicle sticks and the
Starting point is 00:16:35 bright blues and all the Puma hats that match the pants, the shoes, the shirt, all the study started coming out with these all black, slick, Rick type outfits that he's starting to play better golf. I mean, yes, there's some, you know, we got to give some credit to the Till gang and John in getting our guy, Ricky Fowler, back into competition. But also, here's another thing that's getting this guy back in. Have you noticed there's been a lot of stats coming out that this guy is just a better player with glasses on?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Have you seen all the comparisons? So, Slick Rick is just seeing the course better. That's this PGA tour tweet. And strokes gained putting this season. He was minus 17.4 strokes gain putting the season before wearing glasses. And now he's 11.78. It's a turnaround that the PGA tour has never quite seen in strokes gain putting. And the only thing that they could decipher the difference between one stat and the other
Starting point is 00:17:29 was that he's now wearing glasses on the golf course. Prescription sunglasses, regular glasses. Once he has bifocals on his head, he putts better, plays better, and has a chance to win the tournament. Well, then, I mean, what's been going on with Trent's wearing glasses on the course all the time? It's true. I mean, ask anybody who watches the videos, they'll give you an opinion on what I'm doing wrong. I've just been inundated with tips.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And again, I appreciate everyone watching. The videos do extremely well. I just sometimes I play like fucking shit and I can't get the ball in the hole and I make eights. And a lot of people think that it's my glasses or they think it's because I wear quarter zips and pants in the middle of summer. Despite I'm just going to wear whatever I want all the time. I don't care what people think about that. And it's just, you know, I get a lot of tips when the bottom line is I just got to stop making eights and I got to putt a little bit better. Now, I don't know for sure if these are a prescription.
Starting point is 00:18:27 These could be just sunglasses. So that's something that you're really not able to do. Like sunglasses may be, because he's wearing sunglasses and all the pictures that they have in these graphics. You're not able to wear sunglasses because you already wear glasses, right? You're not going to do the double glasses. That's an insane move. I don't even know if that works with the golf swing. I think maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:47 maybe you can get, I mean, you can get prescription sunglasses. That would probably be the next step. Right. I don't know. I mean, maybe there's something that's seen the court. Yeah, Phil. Phil, like he's just all of a sudden wear sunglasses and won the PGA championship. So there's got to be something to this.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm not good at like where I could probably wear regular glasses playing golf, but I can't wear sunglasses for some reason. There's like, it's almost like you're looking through like a, like, like, uh, why can't think of that word? Magnifying glass? Magnifying glass. Yeah, where it kind of just like magnifies like the ball. Like the ball's not, let's say the ball is.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I mean, that's what glasses are. No, I know, but like regular glasses, like, you don't see a difference. But for some reason with sunglasses, I don't know, because of like the change of color, I always feel like I can't get my bearings down on like how far the ball is from my eyes. You know what I mean? It's just like a, what's happening here?
Starting point is 00:19:46 I can't, and I've worn contacts and glasses my whole life, but there's something about golf. I just can't do it. I can't look through lenses and I can't, I can't get like, I don't know. How did you play at Brookfield that day that you wore glasses on the golf course? How did you play that day? I think I played all right, but it was very weird again. Like it looked weird. It was like I was looking through something to see the ball, which is what you're actually
Starting point is 00:20:08 physically doing. And I don't like that feeling. It amazes me when you see Phil just like playing with sunglasses on and winning like the PGA championship. I can't comprehend how that's possible. Yeah, I guess as a normal glasses wear, it doesn't, I mean, I'm just so used to it at this point. But I do agree that sunglasses, looking through them, you get a very different view of what's going on. I don't know if it would make me better. I don't know if it would make me worse.
Starting point is 00:20:33 But I do know that it's just because everything looks so much different than it normally does. I don't know. But I don't know. Maybe I need to start wearing sunglasses on a golf course. Then you have certain guys, you have certain guys that will wear them on the back of their heads. And it always blows my mind that those things stay on too. Have you ever seen that move? It's a very...
Starting point is 00:20:51 I've seen it on... A lot of baseball players do that, I feel like. Yeah, they'll wear it on the back of their head, right? And it's just like, how does that stay up there? How about the guys in baseball who are in the outfield, they have the flip downs? And when the ball gets hit to them, they flip them down. And that's how they see the ball. That's witchcraft, man.
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Starting point is 00:21:27 So I was just going to look normal and hopefully I just reappear and then all of a sudden I reappear. You guys still trying to figure out glasses? Well, yeah, we kind of filibustered there because we didn't know when you were popping back in. We finished off the glasses talk. I'm sure for the better mint of the podcast and the brand. I don't know how much longer we have to talk about glasses. Well, we do have blenders eyewear coming up in a few minutes.
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Starting point is 00:24:04 2015 U.S. Open tied for second. 2015 British Open Tied for second 2017 PGA Tied for second 2021 PGA Tied for second 2021 U.S. Open
Starting point is 00:24:17 Third 2021 British Open Tied for third Sickening Unreal That someone could have that roster and have only won one major championship
Starting point is 00:24:31 That goes back to the Olympics thing we're talking about Where it's just Razor thing where he's not winning these things and it's just he's playing so well and like i i would love to know how he really feels about the way he finishes because the one way you can look at it is kind of what we mentioned before too where he's just making a ton of money if you finish that high at these prestigious golf tournaments you are going to make buttloads of money but also the flip side of that
Starting point is 00:24:59 is you're just it's got to be maddening and it's got to keep him up at night and he's got to be in cold sweats thinking about where have I gone wrong in all of these tournaments to just finish second and third because it's just a shot here, a shot there, and we're talking about Louis Oostezen is one of the greatest major championship winners of all time. Of all time. Right. I mean, he's right there to be an all-time great. At the end of the day, he just won't be.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And that's really hard to handle for Louis Oostahusen. I know at the end of the day makes all the money and he's a name that is always in contention. but man, when you rattle off that list and you're that fucking close, that hurts, man. And that hurts until you're in the grave. Like that is Louis O'Sahuzan will know that his, he was on the precipice of all-time greatness. A shot here. A shot there. A putt drops.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You know, a lip out here. It's just, you're talking all-time greats. Right, because when they talk about Jack Nicholas, they always bring up the second place finished fact. And I forget what the number is, but it's a huge number. I think it's 19 times. I think 19 times Jack Nicholas finished second majors, but he's also got the 18 wins. So it's like you can stomach the second place finishes when you got all the wins.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Louis Eustazen is like the bizarro version of that where he's got all the second place finishes, but only one of the major wins. That's just got to drive him crazy. Dude, I'm looking now, like if you have five majors, you're like a top 15 player, you know, of all time. There's just not that many people that have won five major championships. Even if you get like four, you're in the, you know, you're in the top 20, 25 or so of most major championships in the history of the game of golf. And he's right there, he's got the one.
Starting point is 00:26:49 If just three of those that we listed, he was a shot or two better, he's just vaulted into the top 20 or 30 players from a major championship point in the history of the game of golf. And instead he's just Louis Ooster. And now... And I can't even say his name. In 80 years, you just don't think about him. Right. Because this... We're talking about it now, because we're living in it and we can see it.
Starting point is 00:27:15 We're like, this is crazy how much he's finishing in second. But you're right. 80, 100 years down the road, they're going to talk about the guys who did win the majors. They're going to talk about Brooks and Rory, who had, you know, they got four and then it goes all the way out from there. They're not going to talk about Louis. Who's still who's in? No, they're not. But he could have been on top of them all.
Starting point is 00:27:32 on top of all those guys. It's so disrespectful to just call him Louis Oostehusen and be serious about it and just not know how else to say it. God, that's what he gets. That's just what he gets. Reminds me a Chris DeMarco. Like Chris DeMarco, when you go back and watch Tiger Woods highlights from like the early 2000s,
Starting point is 00:27:51 Chris DeMarco was just right there every time. It's like fucking five years in a row. It's like master, British Opens, all these tournaments. He's right there. hitting pots and like giving little fistpubs he's so close and he just couldn't win because a guy named Tiger Woods, Eldrick Woods, clean them all up. It's got to be incredibly frustrating from poor Louis Ooste. Probably even more frustrating because we're living, now we're outside of the Tiger era. Like we're, it's, it's just different guys. Yeah, it's like probably a deeper roster of guys that can win on a week to week basis or during these majors.
Starting point is 00:28:26 But still, it's not that there's one dominant guy. It's just that Louis always finishes in second and it's a different. guy every single time. I mean, you're talking three U.S. opens, three opens, two PGAs and a master. Masters, this guy could have had under his belt. I mean, the grand slam. It's just, it's, it's, at Louis Oostahus, it would have gone down as one of the greatest golfers of all time, but instead he finished second in all of the tournaments.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's just unfortunate. It is, it's two, you're right, Trent. It's not a dominating era. It's just like, it's like the Oprah Giff. It's like, Bryson gets a major. Phil gets a major. He's 50. Yeah, you want a major.
Starting point is 00:29:02 over there, go for it. Louis is just there every time. Can't pick one off to save his life. It's brutal. I think I saw, getting back to the money part of it, the positive aspect of it, I think in the last two seasons he had made something like $4.8 million, and then the last like two months he's made $4.8 million. So again, that's the thing where it pays off. But if you were talking about legacy and how you want to be remembered in the game of golf, he's going to just get passed over when they talk about it. it's like you know the master's champions dinner like he wants to be there man he wants to have that green jacket it's like now you did i mean yeah we heard you made that four million that's cool but you got to maybe mix in a win here buddy so he does have the one he wanted at st andrews that's really cool but man the fact that he's come up that short that many times since then it's tough he's playing great golf it also doesn't feel like he's going to stop playing great you know he's
Starting point is 00:29:58 got that simple swing it doesn't look like much can go wrong um good putter so we'll see hopefully louis picks off a couple majors because starting to you know feel bad i mean at this point maybe just continue to finish in second and that's his that's his part in history if he continues to just finish in second in majors they will talk about him if it's an outrageous number if he gets to 10 15 second place finishes louis oosteroos and will go down in history as the guy who came close that many times well then tony finaw is going to pass him in that legacy too it's a race for who's the best second place finisher of all time. At the end of the day, it's a legacy.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I guess. It's a legacy. We do have two guys who are just habitual second place finishers. We got Tony Fienow, who's a habitual regular PGAT tour event, second place finisher, and Oosterhusen, who just does it in majors all the time. So yeah, hopefully those guys can break through, and then we won't have to keep making fun of of them and laughing in his name. Olympics.
Starting point is 00:30:59 John Rom, test positive for COVID. So he's out of the Olympics. I'm not a medical professional, but I don't know how this is possible. He just had COVID a month ago or whatever and then got vaccinated. And then he's out of the Olympics with COVID again. We need this, not a laughing matter, but we need John Rom to be at a lab right now getting studied by scientists because he's confusing everyone. And I'm with Riggs.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like I'm not a medical scientist. I don't have any sort of background like that. but I was under the impression that you just couldn't keep getting COVID over and over and over again. Especially, I think he said that he's vaccinated now. He got vaccinated the week of the memorial and then he got it and then he got it again. Like I just, he is a medical marvel right now and we got to figure out what's going on with John Rom because he could be the link to figuring this whole thing out. Well, it's either he's a medical marvel or they've just messed up his life, his recent life,
Starting point is 00:32:00 with like bad tests or something right like like i feel bad for john rom if something like went awry when it comes to his testing whether it was like a false positive at the memorial and he actually didn't have it because maybe like something from his vaccination showed up on a test or now since he was positive just two months ago does is he still positive now since he hasn't gotten tested since getting vaccinated at the memorial it probably hasn't gotten tested at any of the sites now he gets tested at the olympics it's like is he is just still positive from when he was positive in two months ago. So it's like, is this guy just getting bamboozled and hoodwinked and fucked over? Is John Rom getting destroyed by just the world by the medical field? I feel
Starting point is 00:32:40 bad for the guy. There's no way. No one else is this is happening to. Right. I think there's a very real chance that what you're saying is true where he just, he started down the wrong path with it. And then he got, he caught all the wrong breaks in the testing and the vaccination. Like, yeah, maybe it was a false positive with the vaccine and then he gets it tested and it's negative but then he gets tested because he got tested two times they said for the Olympics and then the third time was the positive test so then is that a false positive like i just i just don't know what's going on with john rom but it seems like it almost seems impossible for him to have it again right now but he does just crazy yeah i i don't know it's got credit to john ron because we've talked about him
Starting point is 00:33:22 at length on this podcast about being just a lunatic and a ticking time bomb and someone that just can't handle, like, the pressure of, like, life and golf and, and, things going wrong. He just wants to snap. He wants to break clubs. He wants to jump into ponds and throw his caddy across the room. He's just that kind of guy. And when, like, all the stuff that's happened to him this year, like, getting pulled off
Starting point is 00:33:47 of a win at the memorial and now getting pulled out of the Olympics. Like, how is he handling this stuff? Like, it just, it, credit to John Rom. He's really proving us wrong when it comes to his temper. And, like, in between him just racking up positive COVID tests, he won the U.S. Open in amazing fashion and finished third at the British Open. So it's like he's clearly handling all this really well and playing some of the best call. It's like, I almost was convinced he just didn't want to go or something.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And like, but, you know, I don't understand how you're vaccinated to get COVID again. I thought, I thought it was like three people in the history of the world have gotten COVID twice. So I didn't know that that was a real thing, but I think it has to just be the testing. It just doesn't make sense that he would have it again. Right. And then it's, yeah, I'm befuddled. That's the word I would use. And I think that crossed my mind two rigs where he was just trying to think of an excuse to not go and play the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:34:45 But if that's the case, you just have to think of a better excuse. Like everybody knows it was one of the more publicized thing when he got at the memorial and then got, got out of quarantine just in time to then win the U.S. Open. I just, I don't know what's going on with John Rom. I have no idea. It was bizarre. It was a very bizarre report when I saw that. It is, you know, the Olympics for the athletes to compete.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And a handful of them have brought this up, spoken about it. And some people react to that, you know, those conversations and those comments in different ways. But it is, you know, I've seen, they've got to do like three tests just before. they're even like allowed in and then they got to wait in the customs line that's been like five to like nine hours long and they got so my first instinct was like oh he just like doesn't want to go or maybe he came up with a positive test that like was probably not um you know they probably could just retest him and get a negative test but he was i don't know i just thought he was maybe trying to like just look for something to be like yeah i'm all set i don't really need to go um but it seems
Starting point is 00:35:52 you know from his statement and all that which he's handled all the last two months really well that he is nothing but, you know, classy, handled everything classy, and he therefore wouldn't, me, wouldn't, like, of all the things that you could do, I don't think he would make up a false, or a positive COVID test to not go. So I think he did just test positive,
Starting point is 00:36:10 and he's not going, which is bizarre. Price and DeShambo also test positive. He is now not going to the Olympics. You know, I guess I was really not much to say on it, other than it's just people test, positive for COVID still. I think Bryson D. Shambau has said the craziest year of maybe anyone on planet Earth. Every single time there's a quote unquote opportunity for like a headline to be made.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And this isn't that. This is just like a positive test. But going back the whole year, it feels like the world revolves around Bryson DeShambo. At every turn, something happens. It's honestly incredible. It really is, man. He's just a, it's so true. He's a headline maker.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Like whether it's positive, negative, outrageous. He figures out a way to just steal the show. And unfortunately this time it was a positive test. I don't know what's going on over there at the Olympics with these positive tests. It's just unfortunate that these guys aren't able to compete. And it sucks. It just sucks for Bryson, man. He's had a fucking crazy year, an absolutely crazy year.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Could have been a great turnaround for him if he was like Mr. America and winning and he won the goal. that he was driving the ball 400 yards and like what a good little pick-me-up it would have been for Bryson and then like probably would have taken a shot at Brooks with like a gold medal picture or something you know like it would have been like his one leg up and unfortunately it's like ah you can't go you have COVID
Starting point is 00:37:40 it's just so tough. He does just steals everything like the British Open maybe the biggest story out of it was Bryson saying his driver sucks like that was I mean that got so much press and it's just week after week after week it was like him his caddy and him splitting up like right before that and then saying his driver sucks and then you're right it's like oh there's golf
Starting point is 00:38:04 of the olympics that's going to be cool headline bryson de chanboe covid out of the olympic so he's just he's just been all over the place and he'll never change i don't think i mean from spritzing his golf balls to melting down after the i can't remember which tournament that was over in the uk but i think it was like the scottish open or something where he was melting down banging his head against the wall that's yeah dude if you had gone back like if you went back
Starting point is 00:38:29 years in this podcast when we originally were talking about or talking about Bryson O'Shambo and then he buried Frankie when he came on the show talking about butter knives
Starting point is 00:38:37 like at no point that I think we'd still be talking about this guy in this way three years later like he hasn't left for a second and whether it's something of his own doing
Starting point is 00:38:50 like the caddy stuff or saying this driver sucks or all the Brooks stuff and now the positive test. Like, he just, he never leaves the limelight of golf. And again, I, we go back and forth on him every single show. He's extremely annoying and he's frustrating when you hear him talk. But he just brings it every single time with the headlines.
Starting point is 00:39:12 So it's, I just can't believe three years later we're still talking about this guy. I mean, he gave Frankie a chipping lesson at the PGA championship. I was very invested in it. Like he was like, don't worry about the people that are watching. Everyone's making fun of you. Like they're laughing. They're screaming. Let's just dial it in.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Like he drew a line in the grounds and hit the line as hard as you can. He took my club and hit it lefty. The whole place went crazy. I mean, at Bethpage, it was like one of the greatest golf moments I've ever been a part of. At Bethpage Black, PGA championship, my like home course that I've grown up playing, Bryson D. DeCampo, who was like the biggest story at the PJ Championship. He was just Bryce and Dichambeau at the time.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Like everyone who actually liked Bryson at that. that time. Well, maybe not everyone, but he was definitely a more likeable figure at that time. Yeah, he was doing a lot more with us. He was doing more with us at that time. We'd had him on the show a few times. Yeah. He was pretty positive right then. Remember that interaction? We hugged at the presidents come. We all, we brought it in for a nice hug. That's when he was really big. Remember that interaction with the PGA where we didn't know how he was going to like, because we hadn't seen him in a person in a long time. I don't even know if ever and then we all like bumped into each other at the pGA and he's like oh look at these
Starting point is 00:40:24 guys and like we all like pushed each other and like it was a fun back and forth it sucks that it's turned into like he's a lunatic and a sociopath on and every single time something out comes out of him you hate it oh yeah he was he was the first guy we ran into at the pj championship at beth page black and we were just like ah these guys and then we went our separate ways like that was yeah I think I went, ah, this guy. And that was like the first interaction. And then Riggs and I were running around the property trying to find a lefty wedge while Frankie was like preparing to get a lesson from Bryson.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Like that, man, what a time. That guy is. He's a headline maker. He was the first person we saw. Like, that's just what he does. He's in the headlons. And it's going to keep going like this. He's a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Sometimes he's likable. Sometimes he's almost like he's beloved in a way. Because you just kind of feel for him. and he comes off as a little bit like sensitive and interesting and he's the scientist and that's different. And then sometimes you just want to punch him in the face. You're like, God, this guy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I do think, it's crazy how up and down it is. I think the next step for him is dropping his equipment sponsor and making his own clubs. I think that's the next thing that happens with Bryson. That's my prediction. I also think he needs to go on the four play podcast and have an absolute,
Starting point is 00:41:41 just like, uh, you know, an emergency press conference on, on exact. what is going on in his brain and how is his life going and talk about the brook stuff like be an open book and don't be that and like when it comes to being an open book like don't have your own youtube page where you come up with these weird fucking videos and everyone
Starting point is 00:42:00 thinks you're like a weirdo in like like let's actually talk to normal human beings that are going to ask you questions and have like right now we all are just like he's a victim of just what we see of him on the internet and like we don't really get to just hear bryce and de chambot Like, I want him to cry on a podcast. Like, I want him to be like, this fucking sucks, man. Like, my life sucks right now. And I just wish, like, the ball would stop rolling away from me. Like, I need to take control of this shit.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Like, I, right now, he's just falling down a hill. And we need to just, like, hold him up. Just, just save the guy from death. His YouTube presence is so bizarre. I mean, cringe-worthy. The guy just posting his own, like, and I think you're right, frankly, That is his version of like, I'm controlling the narrative. There's some people get a real look at me.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Like, it's the most edited, you know, it's just not reality. It's like Instagram in a YouTube version. It's like every, that's not the real version of anyone what you're putting on YouTube right now. So yeah, I think he would benefit dramatically from doing that instead of currently what he's doing. But like I said, I mean, at times he's endearing and we've loved him. And he came on and chirped Frank. is still, I think, in our intro. And he's been really, really cool,
Starting point is 00:43:19 and really invested. And there's been stories, but him running into fans, kids, and always being great with him. We've seen him being great with fans and kids. But like I said, sometimes he just cannot help himself and get into situations.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That makes you want to just puke when you hear him talk or say anything. And that's something he's got to get away from. I think coming on here would probably be a good way to do it. He's still our logo. So either he comes on and we figure this out and he stays the logo or we just move on and we find a new logo. logo. Like he needs to, like, I'm actually putting an ultimatum on this shit. If he's not on this show by the
Starting point is 00:43:51 end of August, we have to change the logo. And I think that go, right? Like, if Bryce and Deschambeau does not come on this show and give us a tell all, like just, you know, everything that's happening in his life type of podcast, we are changing the logo and we will be never, ever associating ourselves with that, that picture, that image ever again. I like it. Deal. Deal. End of August. Fresh from Fresh from San Diego, California, ladies and gentlemen, comes the only sunglasses brand I'm ever going to wear. Again, I'm talking about blenders eyewear. You're going to be just as hooked when you see how awesome these shades are.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And apparently, according to Frankie, glasses just make you play better golf. They do. This is a nice opportunity. So in the beginning of the show, I said I don't really like playing golf with sunglasses. I'm because I think it magnifies or at least distorts, like, my viewing of the golf ball. But I really haven't given it that many chances. Like I haven't tried it that often. I definitely haven't tried it for more than like a hole or even one shot like when I do it.
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Starting point is 00:46:15 I like that line. Yeah, so I actually ordered these, and they're coming to, they're coming. And I ordered the Natty Ice Lime X2. They're these like, they're almost like the see-through lens. I mean, I'm frame with like bright green lenses. I, you know what? I took a risk. I'm like, let me just, it's summertime and the living's easy.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And I just want to wear sunglasses that make me look cool. And if they don't look cool, I'm going to keep rocking them because they're I took a risk, man. Sometimes you got to just do it. I like that you took a risk. I feel like that's kind of up your alley of where you feel comfortable taking risks. Like you do it with your outfit sometimes. You show up to a wedding without like a tie.
Starting point is 00:46:54 This is kind of what you do. Yeah, I do. We're going to need a picture of those glasses when you get them. Okay. No problem. Yeah. All right. Olympics for the golf element, like I said, 6.30 p.m.
Starting point is 00:47:11 starting, I think, Wednesday night until 3.30 a.m. is when, you know, the golf coverage will be on for the next, like, five days. You okay, Frankie? Yeah, just, I didn't know what that noise was. These headphones are, like, I'm just in the show. So anything that's happened to me around the world, I do not know. And I heard a noise in which I thought I had to take my headphones off, but now it's not there. That's why Trent doesn't like to wear the noise canceling ones, really. No, he doesn't talk.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah, he can hear himself. Yeah, but I think. Yeah. true but I think well for me a part of the reason I don't love the way a while time when I do the show either is because like you said frankly you're so this is the only thing that you can be in and I don't want to lose full full awareness of everything around me I will say what I've been doing recently is I plug my headphones into the mic that we use right here you plug it into the bottom and you can just hear everything around you like I just heard somebody come out of their apartment you know out in the hallway and I could hear that so it's really it's the best of our World's. How much better that microphone just sounded when you pulled it a little bit close to your face. It sounded like a microphone. I mean, it's... Don't, but the problem is, is sometimes... Oh, my God, that's great. Wow, you sound so clear right now.
Starting point is 00:48:21 This is crazy. Then I'll get tweets people being like, Trent is shattering my eardrums. Like, if I get too close to it, it's super loud. It's got to be in front of you, though. Like, you have it all the way to your left. Like, who cares if it's in the shot? I don't know. I don't care. I really don't. I'm just saying that when I've done this in the past, it becomes it becomes too loud and I don't and I feel bad
Starting point is 00:48:42 for the people who are listening when it's like they're just like in the morning trying to listen to a podcast and I'm yelling at them with a megaphone we're in the same room right now Tram it sounds like you have entered my room and you are talking to me at this table all right
Starting point is 00:48:56 my audio stinks today too because I didn't bring the dongle or whatever the fuck that word is these Mac these MacBook pros these new ones that don't have any USB import like the input things or import it's it's it's preposterous i'm going to say it again in this fucking show it is like mark it down on the calendar that i said preposterous again it is like the only thing that goes into this laptop
Starting point is 00:49:18 is a ubs a ubs bc connection so then you got to buy a thing that goes into that that you have to then put the USB into the u sbc come on apple be better like how could it be that hard to put one USB thing in there well they're actually doing it the correct they're doing it in a way where you have to buy all new shit that's why they're apple that's why they're apple is it called a dongle is that right i think so you know i don't know i i've heard it once it could be like a doggle i i've i've said don't know i've been saying that for the last couple years too i've actually been thinking about asking pete for a new laptop it sounds like i actually don't want to do that uh jake jake or garret in the background is it dongle the dongle yeah okay cool
Starting point is 00:50:03 dongle. I will say about a year ago, Trent, I got a new laptop, and it was a good move, but like Frankie said, you just have to learn a new system. You got to plug a dongle in and then plug everything into a dongle
Starting point is 00:50:16 just to use the shit that you usually use. That's infuriating, especially when you're traveling, sometimes you forget the dongle because I was doing the podcast at home, now I'm doing the podcast in Minnesota. It's just like, where's the dongle. Oh, I know exactly where the dongle is.
Starting point is 00:50:29 It's on my desk at my house. It's not here in Minnesota, even though I have everything else. I don't have the don't have the dongle. I've got to talk to the laptop. Yeah. You're not going to get a new one now, are you, Trim? You've put seeds of doubt into my mind with this conversation.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Just because I know how everything works right now and I have everything and I can plug my microphone in and it's it all works. But I mean, the prospect of a new laptop, every time like a new laptop or a new phone, like that makes my balls tingle. It's just fun. It's really fun getting new stuff. You'd be tingling your balls with that new laptop, that new power, you know what I'm talking about? Right. Thinking about having a brand new MacBook Pro makes my balls feel different. Totally.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah. It's a fresh start, which is nice when you have a brand new laptop. It's like nothing's on it yet. You get to choose what all goes on and it's faster. It feels like when you were a kid, I remember getting a new computer. Like got a new computer once or twice. And then the video games that I would play would be so much faster. And I used to be the loser that lagged behind.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And instead, now you've got like a legitimate game playing device it felt like. And you were going to be 10 times better. You were back. Dude, I remember when I bought my first laptop, like the first laptop that was my own. And I remember tracking the, you know, using the tracking number and figuring out that it was out for delivery. And then literally standing in my front yard all day waiting for that truck to pull up because it's such an exciting endeavor to get a brand new laptop. Because it is. It's a blank slate.
Starting point is 00:51:59 You can do whatever you want. What a visual of you in front of your house and Cedar Rapids Isle with your hands on your hips? Where's this truck? Because I was like, it's definitely coming because when something's out for delivery, it's coming to your house. So I was so excited that I could not stand inside the house anymore. I had to stand outside. Is there a better feeling than getting a new phone, specifically an iPhone, and taking off that plastic and that noise and that feeling of revealing that brand new, that brand new fucking face of that phone? that screen.
Starting point is 00:52:31 No, there is no better feel. Although I did get that feeling with the Taylor made P790s. They actually wrapped the irons in that type of plastic and the feeling of ripping it off was pretty damn similar to an iPhone one. It didn't just like crumble off. It actually peeled off.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah, and you get the sense immediately you're the first person that's ever touched the face of this device. First human. Yeah. No, that's true. See, now you've got to. are getting my balls all excited. Oh, man, you could rip it right off. You know what, though?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Pete usually takes that thing off before he gives it to you because he puts some spy watching porn fucking thing on our computers and watches us everything we search. I am concerned about that because I think that's true. I think there is. He does have a program that tracks. He's able to. I don't know if he does. He probably definitely does where he can see what everyone's doing.
Starting point is 00:53:25 So like, I don't do anything on my laptop. We've joked with him like, dude, do you, I think, I don't know Nate's been very serious about this. He goes, do you see what we do? And he's like, don't worry about it with like a smiley face. Or like, he'll say no and he'll giggle and walk away at all business Pete. It's fucked up. I'm 100% convinced that Pete watches what we do on our laptops.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And I will say that I actually, I just don't really care that much. I don't think you can. Trent's thinking about the things that he definitely cares about people seeing and watch on the fucking laptop. And he's like, boy, I'm going to have to take a record check on that one. Yeah, I'm off. I'm off the grid in terms of what I Google on this laptop, I think. I think I'm out.
Starting point is 00:54:11 The Olympics. We talking about Patrick Reed? No, not yet. Patrick Reed is in. Patrick Reed got in in place of Bryson DeShambo. He had a very funny comment, I thought, about it, where he said, when they gave me the name Captain America, the fans did it. feels like an obligation and a duty of mine to go out and play for our country whenever I can
Starting point is 00:54:35 and whenever I get the call. To be able to call myself not just an Olympian, but a two-time Olympian is pretty sweet. I look forward to going over there and play. This guy thinks he's Steve Rogers when he represents the United States of America. And you know what? I agree. This is the Patrick Reed that we all love. We love Ryder Cup Patrick Reed.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Whenever he's wearing the red, white, and blue, it is a joy to watch. Whenever it's a regular tournament or regular major, he's like a weird guy who kind of puts you off and maybe probably definitely cheats every once in a while. And like it's just like, but anytime he has the opportunity to represent America, he picks up that mantle and he runs with it. And that is, that's something I respected him. And he's on such a short schedule here. He's flying from, you know, he's participating in the 3M and then he's got to quarantine for three days. He's going to get to Tokyo on Wednesday. They got to start playing on Thursday. And then, fact that he was like, yes, I want to do that. I want to represent this country. I'm the only two-time Olympian in golf history at this point. He takes great pride in that. And this is the version of Patrick Reed that I genuinely love. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I mean, he also might just be like anything to get me away from Justine for like another week. Yeah. I'll go over there as long as you guys want. But you're right. He, I mean, one of his lines where he says, I feel like it's a duty of mine. Like he's invoking military duty to justify and describe
Starting point is 00:56:03 why he wants to go over there. I couldn't agree more. This is the best version of him, absolutely. I laughed out loud when I read that whole thing. And I also was like, yep, that's our guy. This is when he's at his best.
Starting point is 00:56:13 This is when we love him. He's right. Like, we did give him that name because there's only, you know, a few times, really like once every year, maybe even two years, if you're not as into the president's cut,
Starting point is 00:56:25 where we genuinely get to root for team golf, for our guys, for the red, white, and blue. And it's the most fun, most passionate thing that we get as fans. And he's been a huge part of that. Like, we forget in these little stretches in between how much in those moments, we would go to war for Patrick Reed when he's hoeing out and going crazy and shushing the crowd, wearing a rebel. Like, that means the world to us.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So he's right. He's like, no, no. You guys call me Captain America. I will be there at the Olympics. I'm going. It's also my favorite part of that is that he kind of put the fans. Like he backed everyone into a corner because so many people hate Patrick Reed, but he reminded them.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Like you guys actually call me Captain America. You guys do. And I'm going to continue to be called Captain America because you guys gave it to me. He reminded everyone that they like him. And that's a really good move by him to be like, I'm now going to accept your Captain America name and I'm now going to accept you as fans. And even though everyone's like, no, no, no, no, we don't want to do that. He's like, no, no, I will now be the person you root for.
Starting point is 00:57:29 We'll often just say, okay, because he reminded us that we did give him the name Captain America. And also, no bullshit. That's going to be, that Thursday when he plays, he's going to feel horrific. With that jet lag flying all the way to Tokyo, getting there Wednesday, having to teed up on Thursday, I mean, when we went to Australia, we actually did something similar where we flew for 23 hours and then immediately played. And I wanted to cry. I wanted to break down into tears, get into the fetal position, and just cry for eight hours. Instead, we played 18 holes of golf. He is doing something very similar to that, but it'll be on a global stage in front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And he's excited about it, and I believe him. But that's going to be a tough round of golf. Yeah. Big time. He's going to, yeah, I mean, that round was one of the darkest moments in the golf course that we've all ever had. Well, yeah, you'd think you'd be stiff. and Heath was possible. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It's the hardest golf course, like, on the planet. We flew for 23 hours, nightmare travel all the way over there. And then you just go straight to the golf course, like, legitimately straight to there. And you think that you'd be really stiff from sitting on a plane, but we all felt like jello. Like, I actually couldn't, I couldn't get my arms to be stiff. Like, I couldn't, the swing, like, my arms were pool noodles. I could, I've never felt like that really. Like, my body was actually breaking.
Starting point is 00:58:54 down. I had no strength in it. And it was hot and there were bugs. Ugh. It was just... That trip got significantly better after that round. Like, that was just a bad day. Oh yeah. Yeah, it did. And that course, again, was, it was like so firm because, you know, it's the
Starting point is 00:59:10 sand belt and we just couldn't figure it out. Remember none of us could get it out of a bunker and onto a green? It wasn't possible. Ugh. It's tough. Yeah, it feels really rare. The one way you use the internet has changed, the way you use the internet has changed dramatically over the last decade.
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Starting point is 01:01:31 Shout to my buddy Pete, got an ace at Aaron Hills. Wow. Shout to Pete. So he was in the group and we had eight of us total. He was in the group in front of us. It was the 16th hole. I think it was like 156 or something. He hit a nine iron.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Flew it into the hole. No bounce. Just flew it into the hole. Like the front part of the hole had a little bit of damage. He just flew it into the hole. And we were in the group behind. So we kind of heard them going crazy. But they weren't 100% sure.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Like they were like 99% sure, but they didn't see it like rolling. They're like, he hit it to the pin and then it just disappeared without bouncing. And we were all like, well, now what the hell is that? So they were kind of like, they made some pretty good ruckus. And then it was, you know, 16th hole at Aaron. So the 15th hole is that cool short part four. we were walking kind of right by it and we heard them going crazy
Starting point is 01:02:23 so we kind of walked over as they were walking up and then everybody went crazy because you could just tell there was damn. My brother actually, boy Pete hit it and then my brother immediately after they didn't see a bounce, my brother just full sprinted up to the green and then just went full sprint
Starting point is 01:02:40 and then just turned around. It was like, it's it. And they went crazy. So it was awesome. That was Wednesday too, which was like our kind of our travel day, our first round at Aaron. So that was how he, like, started the golf trip.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Wow. Wow. How was Aaron Hills aside from that? As good as ever. As good as ever. We had the Bally Bunyan Cottage, which was like the Bass of View overlooking, kind of the main putting green in the hotel and the first tee.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So we kind of stayed there, ran our operation out of there. And then, I mean, Aaron is so, it's just, you know, you guys all know. It's one of my favorite courses, one of all of our favorite courses. Oh, it's so good. good. It's so. It's so. It's legitimately heaven. You know, I think we all kept using that term of, look, like the Monterey Peninsula and Cabot and those places are as gorgeous as it gets, but it is like they're rocky shores, right? It's a little bit, it's like raves crashing and it's rocky and there's like seagulls flying and shits of being attacked and it's,
Starting point is 01:03:39 whereas man out there, Aaron Hills, you're just in the, in the rolling hills of Wisconsin with like, you know, Wisconsin farmland, fescue all around you. And it's just so peaceful. So to just, like, be there for four or five days with your crew, it's as good as it gets. We went up on Friday and did just a day trip to Whistling Straits. Check that place out. They had like half the grandstands are kind of going up. That's just, that venue has got to be one of the most spectacular, I would say.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Just golf courses on planet Earth. The Ryder Cup there this year is going to be with the drone footage and everything else is going to be as good. That course is just so hard. It's so awesome. and it's so beautiful, but Pete Dye, man, it is so hard. It's just one of those places where,
Starting point is 01:04:23 like, when you miss a fairway at Whistling Straits, you just end up in really shitty spots. Like, you know, you got one foot in a bunker, like one foot on a hill, and then you got to reach down to your ball. It's like, you just can't miss a fairway out there, and it's always pretty windy. And then we also hit,
Starting point is 01:04:39 they've got a new, so Kohler, you know, they have four courses. They've got the Whistling Straits, Irish and Whistling. You got Black Wolf, Ron, which has a couple courses, and then they just built a par three course. It's a 10-hole par-three course called The Bads. And it was, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:56 we're maybe the biggest short course fans in the world on this show, but it's 10-holes, barefoot. We play as an 8-Sem. They give you little carry bags on the tee, bring a couple clubs, and highly, right. It just opened in June. So literally a brand-new part-three course.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Jeez. How'd you play a whistling? Whistling. I hit it. really well actually. Played really well. Had a triple on the fourth hole and shot, I believe, 82,
Starting point is 01:05:26 which again, felt pretty damn good. The whole back nine was into the wind. It wasn't as severe a wind as I've had there before, but the back nine, the wind started to kick up. And, you know, we were doing a healthy amount of having adult beverages out there. So you always factor that in a little bit to the score. Maybe it helps, maybe it hurts, who knows.
Starting point is 01:05:45 But played pretty damn well. I had my rounds at Aaron, too, Jens. I had finally broke 80 at Aaron Hills, which I don't think I've ever done before. Wow. The first round there, I shot 80 on the number with a 9 on 18. And then second round there, I shot 77. And then third round there, I think I shot 81.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And then I had one round where I made a 13 on the 15th hole, and I think I shot like 84 that day or something. So hitting it very well. It felt good to go to that course, because I'd never really played that well on that golf course. I remember, like, I tied Trent the one time, we both shot 102, not that there's anything wrong with that. And then, you know, the other time I shot like 99 when I had been there.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So to actually go there and play really good golf, it felt really good. Man, that place is so hard. Like, I love everything about Aaron Hills, but like the only time I've ever swung a golf club there, I shot 103, 103, and I just, like, it just beat me into submission. And it's the type of course that, like, I just, if you're not hitting it, while at Aaron Hills, you're going to have the worst day of all time. There's just fescue everywhere. The hills are insane. No flat lies. It's just a nightmare. But if you're hitting it well, what a place to conquer. It was, I thought it was as benign as I've ever seen
Starting point is 01:07:02 Aaron Hills. They've still got the fescue, but it was like playable everywhere. You could always get out of the fescue, like pretty much the entire trip. And then it just wasn't that windy. So, and then the fairways were firm. Like they just, they've been pretty dry out there. They haven't gotten a ton of rain and they're just the way that they've been keeping it is so pure that it's fairways are pretty firm so point is you could hit the ball pretty you were getting like more roll so it wasn't playing that long and it just was was pretty good about we had some pretty good rounds we had some really bad rounds but overall had some um some pretty damn good rounds out there and yeah i i i can't get over how whistling straits is going to be for the rider cup venue it is
Starting point is 01:07:42 just pictures of those holes like picture grandstands there and people and like really meaningful shots for countries and like the USA at the Ryder Cup is going to be awesome like with that that background and just on the water like that and the wind swirling everywhere God that's going to be so cool yeah it's going to be sick it's going to be like the crowds are going to be rowdy um you know some of the grandstands they've got that are like perched up over some of the greens are just looking out over Lake Michigan and all these holes with all the sick bunkering. So, yeah, I think that being there got us really hyped up.
Starting point is 01:08:21 The tunnel that you walk through, it was like mostly made, but they got, you know, the huge grandstands on the first tee like they always do at the Ryder Cup. Basically, you know, like 16th hole waste management type vibe where it's almost just a full theater right there. And then, or stadium. And then the tunnel that goes through, man, you walk like from the clubhouse across this really cool little like bridge that's kind of down. in with this water crossing underneath it and then you start to walk up and you can walk basically
Starting point is 01:08:51 up into from behind the grandstands they'll walk through a tunnel and then walk out and it'll be as epic of a start to a rider cup in a big tournament as you can possibly have cannot wait for that can't wait for that we're going to be there um i just can't wait to see that see it in person you've been the only person to go to a rider cup in this podcast um when you went to france so The one time I went, it just sucked because we got an asses kick. I just didn't even get to root for anybody. It was like every time, everywhere I went, it was just Euro people chirping in my face about how bad we were. It was just depressing.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Remember, like, Tiger was like, O'N4, Phil was like, didn't even get to play because he was playing so poorly. Reed and Speeth were fighting in the media with Justine Reed making calls to New York. It was a disaster last time I went through a riot cup. Well, I've been, I've had quite the weekend here in Minnesota. I had a pretty damn good round of golf yesterday here at Spring Hill in Minnesota with a couple of hockey guys. I mean, just the funniest crew of all time. There's just something about being around these guys that you're just laughing the entire round. I mean, the crew that I played with, Brock Nelson, American Hero, good guy, plays hard, loves the game number 29, Brock Tober, New York Islanders.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Just a hell of a guy, hell of a player. Then we play with Vinnie LaTerry, who was on Anaheim Ducks. He was on the Rangers a couple years ago for like three years. Just honestly, just one of the funniest people I've ever been around, just like not even trying to be funny, like just so casually funny. We played with his cousin, Tyler Nanny, who is actually going over to Europe to play hockey, and he is also as equally funny.
Starting point is 01:10:38 They're dynamic just together. And then the fifth person in our group, was Lou Nanny. And this is a throwback to when we played at Winsong Farms here in Minnesota with Kyle Rudolph at his charity golf tournament. We were in a group. I was in a group. So when we went to Kyle Rudolph's charity golf tournament like five years ago,
Starting point is 01:10:59 it was like Dave Portnoy and us. And we all went there. And we were given. So I was just, I mean, I still am a fucking nobody. I'm a pizza boy that was, that just films Dave Portnoy and I talk on the golf podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:09 But at that time, I really, no one knew who the hell I was. I was legitimately just Dave. like I was just like part of his luggage and they put me down as like a celebrity guest player. Do you remember this? Well, no, yeah, because I remember because we were, we went and we thought we were all playing together.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yes. And we were going to, there were like four or five of us and we were all going to play. And then when we got there, the person who had organized the event handed us a sheet and it was that we were the celebrities and that we were going to be paired up with a bunch of different groups. So we weren't playing together at all. So I remember walking up. So I had like whole 16A and I remember walking up to my group at the carts and I remember
Starting point is 01:11:42 walking up to my group at the carts and I just apologize to them, right? Because other groups got Larry Fitzgerald and Dave Portnoy and Kyle Rudolph and I mean like the list went on. Darius Rucker. Darius Rucker. I mean the list went on and on. And then this group
Starting point is 01:11:57 just got Frankie Borelli, which is the shortest end of the stick as you could possibly get. Also didn't they have it as Frank the Tank's picture as Frankie? Like they thought Frank the Tank was coming. They didn't know Frankie Borelli was coming. Yeah, it was just, it was so wrong. Just everything couldn't have been more wrong.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Anyway, I ended up playing with, like, Lou Nannies. So Lul Nanny is a Minnesota hockey legend, a hockey legend in general. I mean, University of Minnesota, and then played on the North Stars, and then was a GM of the North Stars. He even, like, spearheaded getting her Brooks to be the coach of the Olympic team. I mean, this guy is a U.S. hockey legend. He walks around Minnesota as if he's God. Like everyone knows who Lou Nanny is, right? And me being the idiot. So he was in our group at Winsong Farms years ago because we were playing with his like niece or his, his granddaughter.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And he drove the cart with us. And I remember like not really knowing who he was. And I've heard stories about him, but like didn't really know every kind of they kept saying his name. I didn't really know what it was. Like, oh, you don't Lou, Lou, Lou. And so I came on the podcast right after that. And I said, Lou Non, like the non bread. Because it's N-A-N-N-E, like non-bred that you dip your fucking Spit a Jarjochook dip in.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And that apparently that got to like that got through Minnesota like I mean everyone's like Frank you really just respects Lou Nanny like the ultimate guy. It's like saying baby Ruthie. It's like you don't you just have to know his name. So I find out that we're playing with him today and like they're like lose like like so like Vinny Letary and his cousin they just won't let up like they keep called they they thought that I called him Luke non. So they're calling him Luke the whole day like come on Luke like hit a drive.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Like come on non. like those fucking barstool guys like loonan he's like those barstool guys don't what the fuck they're talking about like and he is just the ultimate trash talker 80 years old steps up to the tea rips one right down the middle never has a doubt i mean he made a birdie on a par through that we all made fives on like it was like a really hard part three we all misogreen put out of the putt out of the grass drilled like a 50 yard put and just like walked away like a catty picked the ball up out of the fucking hole and just went back to his car he's the only guy at this place spring hill that drives a cart around rips it around like he owns a place He's a founding member at the clubs, so he basically does own the place. Just like the funniest day, we had a great match. Tyler and I beat Vinnie and Brock in a match, so that's always going to be, that's going to be in the back of my head knowing that I came to Minnesota. I beat my guy Brock Nelson on his soil.
Starting point is 01:14:28 So, yeah, no, really, really fun day. And just like, God, the swagger and just like the personalities of these hockey, Minnesota guys is something that can, it's unmatched. It really is just unmatched. Like the things that they're able to say like I duff a chip and off the top of there. There's like Jason Duffner and they just walk away. Like I wouldn't even think to make that joke. Like Jason Duffner is a very funny joke about someone who dust a chip.
Starting point is 01:14:53 It's just so good. It's crazy. How'd you play, Frankie? So Spring Hill is a really, really tough course. It's a Fasio, I believe. And it's just like every single, every single green look. like you have to take an elevator to get up there. I mean, some of these T-boxes are so elevated.
Starting point is 01:15:16 It's the most beautiful look. I mean, honestly, one of my favorite courses I've played in a long, long time, like really, really fun course. Pristine, like, pristine golf course and crazy green complexes where, like, up on a pedestal. Like, you're like, I can't believe I have to hit up this thing. It's like 60 yards up in the air. So I end up shooting a 90 or a 91, but we won the match.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Like, I was getting eight strokes off the guy. who was giving out strokes and I was a huge like help on the back. I shot 49 in the front. So I went 4941. So I think I shot 90. So at the back I like lit it up and then for the match sake, like getting strokes and like making four threes and three twos like just was so much fun hitting long putts and just a really,
Starting point is 01:15:59 really fun day. But I'd love another crack at Spring Hill. It's a tough course. Like if you don't know where you're going, you can like there's like some holes where like I hit iron off the tea because That's what, like, everyone said to do. But, like, if you don't hit it in the race by the ferry, you just went into the water. So I was just like, why did I even hit an iron?
Starting point is 01:16:14 I should just hit it dry. Like, you just don't know the course that well. So, but really fun. And I'm looking forward to the Barstow Classic. That's tomorrow. I've heard really good things about this place, Olympic Hills. I mean, I've heard. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Oh, yeah. I've heard really good things about it. I mean, it's a private course here. The guys at Spring Hill, which Spring Hill is like the most elite club around this area. This is why is that a Minneapolis area? I mean, I guess it's tough for debate for some places. But, um, it's like one of the best kept secret elite places,
Starting point is 01:16:43 and they all said, like, you're going to love Olympic Hills. Apparently I said, wait until you get the steak sandwich. So I don't know what that means. Ooh, okay. Well, I guess we're getting steak sandwiches tomorrow, brother. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Like these parts, this part of the country, like Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, you know, doesn't get a ton of the love because it's obviously a cold up here for a lot of the year. It feels like they're summer's not as long. It's not on the beach or on the beach. the cliffs like you get, you know, in other parts of the country. But man, the golf up here this time of year is so good. The pictures from yesterday that you were posting on Instagram looked like that place
Starting point is 01:17:19 was Augustina, had Augusta National's grounds crew out there. Oh, my God. And you guys, oh, my gosh. So there's this like immaculately new, like brand new clubhouse it looks like. And it almost looks like something that would be in Nantucket, like that like, like shiplap, like gray look to the outside with just like white posts. And it's kind of like a low. like not two levels clubhouse and the inside's all oak and like really nice looking out over
Starting point is 01:17:45 this lake. And because it's so high up and you see everything and you see out for for miles. And then they have this. So basically they have this clubhouse. And then right next to the clubhouse is this pristine driving range. Like I'm talking your back swing could hit the clubhouse. So talk about like nerves and jitters for me. I'm stepping up.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I'm playing with these hockey guys. Like obviously like buddies would. brox so i'm not so nervous with him but like viny letary like i've heard he's like a good like he's a good churper he's a good shit talker like um and that all the guys from the pro shop are right there like just having like lunch and like breakfast and sipping on coffee and like they can just they're just staring at me hit shots i'm telling you guys i don't think i made contact with a golf ball for the first 10 to 15 swings it was like a shovel i was hitting behind the ball where like vina let terry's like can we get this guy like in a playpen somewhere like he doesn't know how to hit a
Starting point is 01:18:38 like this is like they're looking at me like we're looking at me like What's going on over here? But finally ended up, like, getting it together a little bit. But, God, I hate the jitters and the nerves, man. Why can't we just get rid of them? Like, I legitimately couldn't swing the golf club. Why? Like, I'm just around people that, like, I know.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And, like, I'm, like, wasn't even nerve-wracking that part. It's just golf in general before, like, the first part of golf is the most intimidating, scary part of anything I experienced in life. You just don't have, you don't know. what you got yet. Right. You know, like for us that day, any swing, any human, any golfer could be in there in that little body of ours and you just don't know what you got.
Starting point is 01:19:19 You don't know which way it's going to go. If you're hitting it flushed that day, high, low, right? You just don't know. And so then when you put, like, you up there and you're thinking about everyone that's around you, there's nothing worse than when you get like a caddy dude and the caddy stands behind you on the range and you're like, bro, can you like, can you close your eyes or something for a few minutes here while I figure this out because you're just exposed.
Starting point is 01:19:43 You're so exposed. Dude, we went to Michigan. I said that to one of our camera guys, Avery. He was just like filming me for the travel series and we had just gotten on the range. And I duffed like five in a row. I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:55 I was chunking and, and I was like cold shanking. And I looked at him, I'm like, dude, just walk away for just two minutes, two minutes. Just let me get this shit together.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Because if you don't walk away, I'm stepping up to the first T like this. So let me just work on this shit myself. Dude, I remember when we were playing Pioneers number four during our Pioneers trip, and our guy Logan was standing behind us on the driving range. And that's just the worst because you know, like, obviously it's fine and it's good, but like you know how good they are and how used to that course they are. And in the back of their head, they're like, this dude just sucks.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I couldn't hit. I was like you in Minnesota. For the first 10 minutes, I don't think I hit a ball because I was just so, fucking nervous. And then it ends up working out because the caddies are always great guys and they have fun. But like that first meeting when they're standing behind you is incredibly intimidating. You know what I'm a huge fan of. Country Club turf.
Starting point is 01:20:54 So not like the Eisenhower Park public driving range turf that I think ruined my swing for the rest of my life. But I'm talking that like country club or like really nice public course turf that they have when like soft turf. Yeah. but like, no, it's almost like, it's like rock hard. You know what I'm talking about? Where it's like, it's almost a strip of turf that just goes across the driving range.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And sometimes they'll open that up when it's maybe it was a little, it was a little wet. So like the grass range is closed. It's like this rock hard turf where you're just like, you can't chunk it. And you just get a feel for hitting the golf ball. That's like what I need to start my day. Like if I could start on that every day and just know that like I can hit down on the ball and it's not going to go 13. inches into the ground. I'm going to pulling up worms with my fucking wedge. Like, if I
Starting point is 01:21:42 know that I can do that, then I can move on to the grass. If anyone has like a, maybe you can send me a DM of like a tip on like, how to just like make sure I hit ball on the range to start. Like, how do you start your range set hitting ball? Because I like, I pull out like a seven iron, and I'm just
Starting point is 01:21:58 chunking. Give me a tip. How do I hit a golf ball? Somebody just tell me, let me know. How do you work on just like hitting the golf ball? How do I hit ball? You know? I just want to hit ball. I just don't stop hitting the ground. I want to hit that golf ball really badly.
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Starting point is 01:24:07 a better golfer, I think he's definitely done it. He might have even come across that guy's swing at the Barstle Classic and thought about doing that, lifting the whole foot. I really do think he has thought about just about everything when it comes to how can he get more distance on his driver. One of the things like even kids said was that no one has like the time or dedication that this guy has to like having that type of game. And, and, and, when you unpack that sentence, that basically means like this guy tries everything and tries it for a really long time and has the time and dedication to like work things out. And there's no doubt in my mind that he's done every scenario that he could possibly think of
Starting point is 01:24:50 on what would maximize his swing speed, ball speed, all the stuff that he wants to get up. There's no doubt in my mind that he's done the happy goal more or some version of it where he's like, maybe I step into it. Like, I mean, the guy practices and plays all day long to try and get that swing as fast as possible. Agreed. There's just no way he hasn't. There's no. He'd be shooter McAvon from that clip where shooters like on the range by himself trying it.
Starting point is 01:25:15 He can't, he just can't quite figure it out. But you're right. If somebody like Bryson is trying everything humanly possible to just hit the ball farther and farther and farther and farther, you got to give this a shot. You just have to give the happy go more a shot. So I'm sure he's tried it, probably determined for whatever reason. that it doesn't work. But I'll tell you this, if he came out to a tournament and just started doing it, I think he'd win some fans back.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I think so, too. He's definitely thought about some sort of crow hop in his swing. Like, that's definitely come across his mind where he's just, like you're like, Frankie's saying, like, if you just sort of step into it or if you do a little hop and go, like there's got to be some sort of advantage to that in terms of length, but it must be way, way harder to keep it on the map. Like all those moving pieces, like that seems impossible to hit consistently, like Happy Gilmore. Can you legally engulf?
Starting point is 01:26:08 You can, I think, run up and hit it, right? You can cry like so, I mean, it feels like that would be faster if you just sprinted into it. I think you can't. I think I want to see him do it. I think it would be great. I think it's kind of surprising that we have. And again, they've probably done it in that little room with Como in his little like test lab, thing where who knows what goes on in there but
Starting point is 01:26:31 you gotta try it running it's just momentum if you just run with momentum you're gonna hit it further right you think Bryson's like a good runner at all I feel like he's not that coordinated yeah like he's coordinated but I feel like he he's almost too like I don't know
Starting point is 01:26:47 I don't know that he would have that it might be too much of a skill set to Taylor May never come out with that I remember when we were at Media Day and we were doing all those things with the Taylor May guys they had the Happy Gilmore jerseys there and I remember them saying they were thinking about getting the guys to do that it was like the anniversary of happy gilmore or something and i don't know if that video ever ended up coming out or if it's
Starting point is 01:27:08 coming out later on but i remember like saying like i really want to see like if rory mackroyd does the fucking happy gilmore and how that comes out i think that video did come out why don't i think in the back of my head that i saw that somewhere um but yeah tell her may's been killing it by the way like the tiger stuff they put out's insane like the other day they put out the video of him hitting those mirrors or those windows I guess Matthew Wolf it's just crazy man
Starting point is 01:27:33 like darts like fucking darts oh there he is no I hit the wrong button them uh yeah I don't know I've never done that before I actually hit my keyboard and then my video just disappeared
Starting point is 01:27:45 but I brought it back they crush it they just do it and it's you know what people like what we learned we went down there is they just film all of that stuff in one day two days right max so like them having the foresight, like the creative foresight that it takes to, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:01 get all of that stuff done and then the production aspect behind it too and be able to roll it out for an entire year and have that content when you roll it out be like really good and engaging is wildly impressive. So, yeah, Timurmaid crushed it. We got another Matt who says, where does the Olympic golf title rank versus other golf titles? comparing it's like a major or is it like a regular bj tourman is it like the players championship is it better or worse than a john dear classic where would you rank winning
Starting point is 01:28:36 where would you rank winning a gold medal my win with uh tyler nanny against viny letary and brock nelson was better than winning a fucking john dear classic what do you know that's i mean come on the the four people watching us play i think we're more eyeballs than whoever wins the fucking John Deere. I'm sorry, Trent. I, where do you think this, this is a good question, though. Where do you think, like, did he say medal? Like, if you meddle at the Olympics or just the Olympics in general?
Starting point is 01:29:08 I think like gold medal. Like winning, winning the gold medal, where would that rank if you had to put it in a ranking system if you're somebody on the PJ tour? Like, where would it rank versus a major, I think clearly lower? Where would it rank versus like the players championship? Is it kind of on par with that or the memorial, like a PGA tour event that's got some legitimate prestige, unlike the John Deere Classic? Or would you, like, would have somebody rather win any home event, including the John Deer Classic, than win an Olympic gold medal? Like, where do you think, where would we guess that would rank?
Starting point is 01:29:43 Obviously, I think it changes per person. Like, just talking with Danielle Kang last week, she's, like, the Olympics is the biggest thing for her to ever played in. And I think for some other people, they're kind of like, like people just aren't even going. So I think that it's a little different per person. Yeah, if we're talking about it from the perspective of people who have committed and are going, I think it's probably just like a hair behind majors. Like if you are deciding to go, you're going to go to Tokyo and you're going to play the Olympics and you end up winning a medal, that clearly means a whole lot to you.
Starting point is 01:30:13 As a person, as just like a fan as a viewer, I guess it's probably like, like below a top tier tour event. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I would rank it. I agree, man. I think as a player definitely is up there as a career achievement. You won a gold medal of the Olympics.
Starting point is 01:30:34 I mean, how often is that? Bro, if you can hang a gold medal in your house or wherever you live, like, that's a big fucking deal. Huge deal. But to the viewership, like, we just, it doesn't have the prestige yet. Like, the only reason the other things are important is because there's history, and there's other people before them that have won, and there's always the idea that you want to win the next one, right?
Starting point is 01:30:53 Like winning the open championship, it's fucking hundreds of years of trying to win this championship. Winning that is really important. Like the Masters, all the guys that have won the Green Jacket, you want to be a part of that group. The Olympics for golf has not gotten there yet, unfortunately. And comparable to other sports in the Olympics, they don't practice their whole lives for that moment.
Starting point is 01:31:15 So when you're watching it as a viewer, it doesn't have the same like I'm not drawn in as much as I am with like Simone Biles or like Katie Ledecki where like their whole life comes up to that one moment when they step up to that when Katie Ladecky jumps in the water it's her whole life has has led up to that moment when fucking Kalamorakawa hits a t-shot it's like no I just watched him win the open like two weeks ago there's no like I don't care that much about this but personally if I was in the Olympics I'd rank it just as high as anything right viewership it's nothing to me Yeah, I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And again, I mean, it probably just depends per person. But for the golfers and the players that went there, it's got to be pretty damn hot. And like you said, I think that putting a gold medal in your home, in your case, in your living room when you walk in, that is extremely cool. And everyone knows what that. Like, everyone knows you won the Olympics, the rings, the whole deal, the opening ceremonies. Like, people know the Olympics, even if they're not necessarily. a big golfer whereas they might not know you know john dear classic or other things like that so having a gold medal is just pretty universal of like oh shit you did the thing where you were the best
Starting point is 01:32:29 in the world at your sport like that week when it when it mattered a lot um yeah i do think like man just watching the swimmers and stuff and knowing knowing how many people actually swim but that we just see the top, you know, however many, 40 or something. And ultimately it comes down to like the top six or seven that really have a chance. Because it looks like, oh, these are just the people that swim in the world. Very cool. But that's literally, there are so many people at colleges, at programs across the world that try to be that good at swimming. And those people were just so much better that they're the only ones that are actually they're doing.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Right. And that adds to it. Every four years, these people just reenter our lives. And the last time we saw them was four years ago. So like Frankie's saying with the golf, it doesn't hit as hard because we watch golf all the time. We just watch Colin Moracow win the Open Championship. So it's not going to mean as much when we see him compete in the Olympics. But yeah, for people like Katie Ledecki or when Michael Phelps was, you know, burning down the world.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Like he just re-entered our lives every four years. So it felt like it had more weight and it had more meaning. Golf just, yeah, golf in the Olympics. I wonder like in 30 years, I wonder what it's going to. look like and how people are going to feel about golf in the Olympics. If they don't get rid of it and if they changed a format to more of like a team aspect or something, like it could be really big, I think. Like if you make it to the point where guys are competing to be on that team, that's what
Starting point is 01:33:55 you need. That's what the Ryder Cup is. That's what the President's Cup is. Like they want to be a part of that, not not be a part of it and legitimately like say like I'd rather not go, which is happening right now. But for a personal achievement man, imagine like your scrapbook at the end of your like career if you're Kalamarkawa and you're going through the pages and you're just like PJ championship open championship gold medal it's like I mean my god how cool is that like you have
Starting point is 01:34:21 one life to live you're out there playing the sport you want a gold medal at the Olympics like ancient Greek type shit like you're out there fucking like I mean that is as cool as it gets like well I just talked about history with the open championship and the masters like what has more history than the Olympics like nothing so I guess there there there's two sides to it As the players, it's the coolest thing ever, the viewer, they got to get better at, like, making it a little bit more important. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:34:49 It is, you know, when you do talk about that history of, like, the actual Olympics, and I know you're big on the ancient Greeks, I can tell. So that's, like, that's really, that really hits home. I think you made a very good point. That made me be like, oh, fuck, yeah. Really, yeah, they were doing it way back. Like, like, like, like, humans against humans. who's the best human like that's how they like did it like sport like who could throw this rock
Starting point is 01:35:15 as far as possible like that is fucking just like sport and like colin mark how it could be on the same level as them like because the olympic committee has granted him a gold medal at the olympics right and that is where golf the olympics is set up for success where golf itself doesn't have much history in the olympics obviously but the olympics has the most history so if you just build your golf tradition, your golf Olympic tradition on top of that, then you could really be cooking. Like we talk about the FedEx Cup a lot when that's going on. Like they just decided to just throw dollars at it.
Starting point is 01:35:50 And we're like, this is why this is important. The FedEx Cup doesn't have a built in history like the Olympics does where golf now being added to the Olympics, 100 years from now, people could just associate golf with the Olympics and it's as big a deal as anything else. So like what happens if they bring the Olympics back, which I'm sure they just don't, to like, Georgia or something, right? Like Atlanta or Athens and they play the golf at fucking Augusta National. Like imagine like the pageantry of that and like how cool that would be if they add it or like that's what they need. They need to add something where it's like it's really cool to play in it.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Like everyone would want to do that aside from all the history that we're talking about. They have to like add a recurring thing where it's like the best golf course and like so like I don't know. I'm just trying to think of how you can make it. Yeah, it needs some pop. It just needs it. I completely agree. And as people that follow this game all the time, yeah, if we think it needs pop, then everybody thinks it needs some. I also think, let's say, Colomor Cow wins the gold medal this year. I think he then talks about it a lot. I think he talks about how much it means to him. Because just watching Colin Morcao operate, he wants everything. He wants the majors. He wants the PJ Tour titles. He wants Olympic gold medals. So I think a guy like him winning and then talking about how
Starting point is 01:37:10 much it means to him, then the ball really starts to roll on guys wanting to compete in the Olympics. That's what I think. It's also cool that it's only every four years. Like you don't get, there's just not that many chances. Like the majors are really cool because there's not that many chances and you still get four a year. Like once every four years you get a chance, maybe, to try to win a gold medal. So doing it, you're just going to be, even in, you know, 40 years, you're going to be in such unique category of people, of fraternity of people or sorority, if you win the women's side of that have won like an Olympic golf gold medal that I think that'll add to it too. But now when it's just like the second one in this kind of era that they've really had it, I think that's
Starting point is 01:38:00 right. And it just sucks that like COVID is making it very difficult. And it's just, if you're a swimmer or whatever, like track and field, where like we said, this is your masters or your British, and there's only one every four years, you're going, and then you're jacked up. Where's the golf? It's like, oh, these guys make millions of dollars all the time, and they're not going to make any money in the Olympics, and they're just not going to go. And so that way you've got like, whatever, you've got like seven of the top ten in the
Starting point is 01:38:27 world, I think, aren't going, and the number one player in the world is not going, which is clearly, like, because of COVID. But yeah, it's a real shame that you combine those two things, and it's probably not getting all the prestige that it otherwise worked. There is an aspect to the Olympics, now that I'm thinking about it more, where I'm not totally convinced that the swimmers and the people who participate in the other events, like, I don't know how much money they're making doing this. Like, I don't know, like, do they make a solid living, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:55 trying to be the best swimmer in the world? And that almost brings, like, an even higher amount of importance to it. wearing golf, like you just said, we know these guys are millionaires 50 times over. So it doesn't feel like it means as much to those guys even. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I definitely agree.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Do you guys think, like, do you think Justin Rose is just like jacked up to have a gold medal? Like, we don't talk about that when it comes to his like achievements, really, do we? I think people mention it, but not as big as, you know, when in the U.S. Open, but like I think he gets
Starting point is 01:39:29 mentioned. But I bet he's super jacked about it so jacked so jacked so jacked like Ricky Fowler got a fucking Olympics tattoo and he finished like 37th in the field you know what I mean like I don't know I just don't know how jacked up these guys really are bad because like clearly Ricky like literally tattooed it on his body and the guy didn't even come close to winning anything so I mean and that's not another rickie shay shot but it's true like kind of felt like he's just excited to be there yeah so fuck man I will be watching the golf. It starts Thursday.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Starts really Wednesday night, I think, for us. 6 p.m. Yes, I think it's like 6.30 p.m. to 3.30 a.m. on like Wednesday through Saturday night slash Sunday morning for us, which is going to be interesting. But it's also cool on the weekend, you know, if you're having a couple drinks or hanging with some people, you can throw on the golf until, you know, whenever you go to sleep those nights, which would be nice. Yeah, hopefully there is that like, there's that moment where we're all going to be like, come on USA player.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Let's fucking, come on Patrick Reed. Come on Colin Mark out. Let's win the gold medal. And like it could be a one or two stroke difference and they have to make a birdie. We're going to be going crazy. Like that will make the Olympics cool. Right. Moments build everything way faster.
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Starting point is 01:42:56 every single put from eight feet and in, if it meant missing every single put outside of eight feet from now on. Yep. Yep, I would. I would. I would, man. Eight foot putts are what kill me.
Starting point is 01:43:14 I mean, they're just tough, and I can't seem to make them go in. I think it's tough to say no to that from just a pure stats standpoint, but it kind of ruins the whole thing out there if you just know from 8.1 feet and out you just can't you just will never make it ever
Starting point is 01:43:34 it's like well what am I doing here like it's just not you want that thrill that any putt could go in so yeah I think mathematically we'd all have better scores if every single putt from 8 feet and in was just it course we'd have better scores we're not as good at putters as a BJ tour guys already but man would that suck to have that thrill just
Starting point is 01:43:53 sucked out of your golf game. You just become the best lag putter in the world, I guess. Or you hope that you become that. Or you become just the worst putter. Everyone just like, this guy can't make shit. You can't make shit. Never made one ever from 18-mover. Never made one ever.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Made zero putts. Like yesterday, I drained like a 40-foot putt and it just last rotation fell in. There's no better feeling than that. Like if you're telling me I can never feel that again, you're insane. The walk to the hole, the pant lift. everyone going crazy like a birdie come on i'm not flagging these fucking irons i'm not i'm not i'm hitting them to within eight feet i think i may take this thing like am i willing what am i willing to get rid of my australia put no i don't want to get rid of that so you're telling me that
Starting point is 01:44:38 every put over eight feet goes in then is that what you said what was the other side of that so the other side of it was um no you're basically just saying you you take the dealer don't No. Oh, okay. Every putt inside of eight feet goes in, but that means no putts outside of eight feet. Right, because if you flip that, then you never finish a hole ever. Right. Which would be tough.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Although I'm saying you flip it. You're just draining putts from all over the place. But you can't make it. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Like if every putt from eight feet and out goes in, I win. I win. But then if you stick a shot inside eight feet.
Starting point is 01:45:22 So that's a two-putt. I put backwards three feet and then just drain it. It would be electric. What's this guy doing? Imagine a three-foot putt. You blow it by. It's fucking 11 feet. And now you're like 10 feet.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Every time. Just drain that second one. Like, ho-hum, no problem. Two-putt. Par. See you later. Bro, you would be a freak show with anyone you played with. I would make it on tour.
Starting point is 01:45:47 I'd make every putt. Every single time I hit the green, you're draining puts. 50-foot putts. 45 foot putts, I'd be a scratch golfer. Are you kidding me? It'd just be so tough because you'd be like, anytime you're in eight feet, within eight feet you can't make,
Starting point is 01:46:04 I guess you would just never try to chip it. You'd chip it to 57 feet. You'd just barely get it on the green. And you just rain putts from all ranges. Do you imagine you like, you miss hit one, pull it or something. It's right at the flag. You're like, no, go, go.
Starting point is 01:46:22 But get over the green The highlight reel of this would be insane Like they'd be like, Frankie Bray comes on tour And they're showing 60 foot butts drop I'm just like boom Walking down the fairway Like I'm tapping the butt just have Not even looking at it anymore
Starting point is 01:46:39 You just tap and walk to the next hole It's a 75 foot like slider down the green You're just like oh I can totally picture Like the hype video I'm just like fireworks going everywhere It's like he hits everywhere It's everything.
Starting point is 01:46:53 He's never missed a pipe for my eight feet nire. Oh, man. I like that. Now I'm on board. Yeah. Yeah, I think you have to take that now. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:47:02 I have to take that. All right, boys, we got Barsu Classic tomorrow so people can follow along today as they are listening to this. But yeah, we'll be out,
Starting point is 01:47:13 Minnesota. It's going to be a very good time. Frankie's already up there. I'm getting ready to catch a flight. But we got Olympic golf Wednesday night. So really we'll have another episode. obviously before the Olympic golf starts. And we're playing Olympic Hills.
Starting point is 01:47:26 What a week. What a week? Steak sandwiches. Steak sandwiches. What a group we got out there too. We got the Captain Andersley and Brock Nelson versus Brady Shea and Vinnie LaTerry out there at the Barstall Classic. Brady Shea and Vinny Laetary will be a, they're in the running to win the whole damn
Starting point is 01:47:44 thing tomorrow. No doubt about it. I mean, Brady Shea is a fucking stick. He may shoot a fucking 68 on his own ball. And Vinny's no joke either. The guy pounds the golf ball. So it's going to be really fun to watch. I'm going to be playing along with them.
Starting point is 01:47:58 I think we're going to be doing a little bit of like a five-sum and like Islanders versus non-islanders. Islanders versus X-Rangers, too. So it should be pretty good. Are you considered an Islander or not Islander? Well, like I'm on the Islander team like a little bit. So, you know, Barry Trots talked about me during the post-game press conference. So I think that was like my. You were ready for that.
Starting point is 01:48:18 You were ready for that question. Yeah. Yeah, you are. You've answered that question before, I think. Oh, you're on the team, as what people do to you? Oh, you're on the team? Yeah. When I say we, we need to be better on the powerplay. Oh, are you on the power player?
Starting point is 01:48:30 Of all the fans in the history of fans who have used we and whatever, you're probably the most in the right to do that. There's a lot of, I mean, like, Jared Karabas could, like, Jarikorovus with their fucking Red Sox, he's in the dugout. He probably is even more we than I am. That guy's just in the mix. He is. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:48:48 My biggest crowning achievement issue is when Barry Traverse. talked about Borrelli's as like being like the catalyst as to like why Long Island was like jumping after a win against the Bruins like right after talked about like the power play scoring and like as if it was like a motivational thing and that was where I was like now we go you know now we go but they but they lost and it doesn't matter so now we go um well good luck out there tomorrow frankie people can follow along again on all the accounts we'll be covering we'll be having a good time hit it hard hit it hard hit hard hit it hard

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