Fore Play - Open Championship Time Feat. Cristie Kerr

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

It's time for the fourth and final major, the Open Championship. We talk all things Royal Portrush. From Phil and Zach (the needle) Johnson's strange video to Tiger saying his game isn't sharp, and Kiz having the third-longest drive of the day, we cover it all. Then Cristie Kerr (~62:14) joins the show to discuss the LPGA, being a whiskey and wine aficionado, motherhood, and more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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It kind of feels like it just came out of nowhere. It really does. And the next thing you know, I'm going to pop up when you guys are listening to this. Call's happening. I mean, major championship golf is happening. Something else that's happening. Christy Kerr on this very show. show a little over 30 minutes we chatted with her she was in studio uh 20 time l pga tour winner two

time major champ she was number one in the world for a little while uh she's kind of a machine out there when she plays uh she's she's serious she's intense she's been doing it for a very long time and doing it incredibly well uh we had her in studio she was great with us she told some stories she didn't remember a ton which is interesting no yeah so a lot of things kind of evaded her memory But the opposite of most of the golfers or all of the golfers that we've had in here when we ask them their best shot their worst shot Boom they've got it right away. She was like I don't know. No, she said I don't remember that's right. Yeah, she legit said yeah, I can't remember. Uh, so as it is we did get a bunch of good stories. But there were a couple moments where I was said like, oh, what's the worst shot you're hearing Chris? She's like, I can't remember. Uh, so it was great. It was funny. It was really good moments, good stories and all that. We are massive, massive proponents of the women's game, especially myself, Lady Golf. I've been tweeting about Lady Golf for years now. I think you get some better drama in that in certain situations than you get anywhere else in almost any, any sport. We've had many different of the women on the show.

And this is another one. Christy Kerr, again, great story. She's been on a bunch of Solheim Cup teams. She was number one in the world. She was won 20 fricking times on the LPGA tour. She was here. We drank some scotch. She's, what's that word?

A salmelier. What? Simileet. She's a simileet, which you're like apparently in alcohol. you know, wizard. We kind of got to do it about that. She's got certifications and stuff. It was very interesting, very, very interesting getting into all that.

So, second half of the show will be Christy Kerr. Interview. A couple housekeeping items. A couple housekeeping notes. Aldera video with Kevin Chappell is up. This truly is one of my favorite videos we've ever posted. It's an hour and 18 minutes long. I guess it's a course vlog.

That's what the internet seems to be referring to it as, a course vlog. We're Frankie and myself. We're at Aldera. It's the number one private. track in Washington, the state of Washington, for an understandable reason, phenomenal condition, really cool views in the mountains. Kevin Chappell, who's, of course, a PGA tour winner. He's Kevin Kisner's best buddy on tour, and he is a beauty.

He was out there. He's recovering from back surgery, so he couldn't really play, but he just chirped and basically bet against me the whole time. And, you know, you're going to three-putt this. No way you hit the green regulation here. Betting for 50 bucks, 100 bucks, all kinds of different stuff for an hour and 20 minutes straight. Frankie and I recorded every single shot that we hit.

It's on YouTube. You go to four play golf. You search that shit on YouTube. Watch it. Tough little golf course over there. Hard golf course. Frankie, you putted horrible.

I watched the whole video. You actually, you could have easily shot like mid-80s. You hit the ball great. Yeah, that's been my problem. You'd have like 10 foot or for par. You'd hit it 12 feet past the hole.

I watched the video. I was infuriating. I forgot that you did that. It's crazy how bad I put. It was insane. With a professional golfer who plays there all the time, like helping me with the reeds. So at that point, there's really nothing more I could do.

You did have a sick birdie on 10. Had a sick birdie on 10. But, yeah, I thought I struck the ball pretty well. And that's actually been happening to me recently. You usually do. You got a beautiful swing. Dude, I've been playing some golf recently and not really scoring that great, which is infuriating. But, like, I mean, I post like a 45-36 at, like, Cherry Valley.

Like, it's one half. I'm putting, like, the worst of all time. But the striking and hitting the greens and hitting the fairways, it's been going great. I'm actually having fun playing golf right now in the last two weeks. Hell yeah, Frank. There you go. So people go check out that video on our YouTube page. It's just a really, really cool video.

And Kevin Chappell, you get to learn a lot about him. You know, he gets to showcase their personality. These PGA Tour guys, if you don't know a ton about Chappie, go watch that video because he's in every shot. He's hanging. He's chirping. He's churping. He gives me a bunker lesson in the middle of it.

He gives Frankie some swing tips. Got, like, clubs on Frankie's hips telling him that. That was great. It's a scene. Yeah. He seems like a real beauty, though. He's awesome. And then also go rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast.

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about us and rate us five stars on iTunes because we go up in the rankings and it's better for us it's better for you you cool or shit. So go help us out, please. Thank you very much. And Frankie, I want to hear about this New Jersey course that you played. Oh, yeah. So last week I played, you know, actually I played with a couple lady golfers. Wow. Because of my buddy. What a theme we've got this week. Yeah. So my buddy, his friend from work belongs to this club, Morris County Golf Club.

It's in New Jersey. It's a Seth Rainer golf course. You know, square greens, very tight. Everything's real tight. You got to hit the ball great. But the greens are outrageous. tiny short course too i think we played at 6400 okay and that's from the blues so it was it was short um and uh yeah so this club has like that vibe that we always talk about where things are a little more laid back and you know the golf is very serious but like you could tell that like there's these group of guys that um like they sit they all sit after their round and some of the guys don't even play but they all get on this unbelievable patio this golf course is sick like it's pristine

And the clubhouse is unbelievably nice. And like this huge lounge like piles out into around the putting green. And then also the tips tea box like just happens to be right next to where the patio is. So like all these guys, I guess late at night, this was like a Sunday. And they're they're all just sitting out there, you know, two tables worth of buddies. It's like four o'clock. It was four o'clock in the afternoon. They're all just like way like way too drunk for like, you know, their age at that point.

Like they're just drinking all day long. It's a dangerous, you know, you get too drunk when you're that old. You just die. Yeah, exactly. There was a couple of characters. Everybody knows that. There's a couple characters in the group you could tell. Like, every time, like, someone would, like, walk by, no one had teed off for a while when we got there.

So, like, we were waiting for, like, we knew that something was going to happen. And because every time someone would walk up 18, you'd see, like, the one guy stand up. And he did this unbelievable noise. Like, he was a pilot on a plane. He'd go, like, and then he'd, like, just roast the person from, like, 180 yards out. We're like, is this guy serious? So this group of guys come up, these kids come up to the first tee. And my goodness, did they get, like, they got thrown into the Lions Den.

These kids tried to tee off on one. And you have, like, 12 dudes just absolutely shitting on their lives. I'm talking from the time they put the ball on the tea to the time they made contact, they were roasting them. Like this one kid, like, all you hear of this one kid gets up and they're like, oh, I won the club championship because my daddy ball. me golf clubs when I was three years old and then like the kid hits one to their right and they're like you suck like running up the kid the kid like puts his head down like fuck and it was just such

they did that for two or three groups that come in and it was one of the best environments to ever be around I started like screaming at kids I'm like you're gonna fucking shake it and then they like shank it I'm like yeah I got going crazy uh the the the ultimate moment was this chubby kid gets up in the heat of the moment and I mean this guy was big he was a big boy like I I'd say he was, like, pushing, like, three bills. He gets up there. You better hope he's actually pushing three bills. He's not pushing three bills.

He's not even close to him. No, he doesn't look at that. Well, because he's going to be a finger than I know, so I was waiting for that number. That's Frankie Phibs again. Yeah. He was, he was big. He was hefty. I mean, people would be saying, they were, they were messaged.

I had people messaging me, call him, tell me they call him the thumb. So, I mean, like, that just goes to show you the thumb? They call him the thumb. He's just, what, he's got a head and he's flat from the shoulders. Just straight, like everything's round. A little raw-esque. Yes. And he steps up to his ball after he's watched what happened to his buddies and all three guys like shanked it.

On his back swing, he stared at the man who was leading the charge and chirping. And then like continues to attack the ball while looking back and absolutely missiles one right down the middle. I've never seen a cocky move like this in my entire life. I mean, this kid hit the ball without looking at it and staring at the guys in the. guys out. Come on. It was an unbelievable hero move. But yeah, Morris County. It was actually fun to play with some lady golfers because they, I mean, these girls could hit the ball. I mean, yeah, they were playing from a tee ahead of us. But once, almost like we talk about with Kerr, like once you get onto the fairway, it's golf. Like they're hitting greens, hitting puts.

I mean, they're unreal. Sick. Some of them are unbelievable. Yeah, really good. That's great, Frankie. It's a very fun experience. It looks like a cool. It looked like a cool scene. It got us into a conversation about the best first teas we've ever seen. I think the best one I've ever played is Marion. which is the same kind of deal. Like the forks, you can legit, like, hear people's forks right next to your face with your T. Yeah, this was real tight. I, when I got up there, those guys weren't there.

I guess they had been on the course, but I had a bunch of stooleys on the putting green. I had, like, four or five guys watching me, and I heard them make a comment, like, here goes Frankie. And as I stepped into the ball. And I was like, man, my heart started fucking bump in it. Always does. Because, like, at that point, we didn't know what the vibe of the club was at all yet. Who did you get out there with? What?

Who'd you get out there with? Did you know them prior to? No, I knew, no, I didn't know those guys that were on the punting green. I only knew my buddy whose friend belonged there. So I didn't really know that many people there. Gotcha. But fuck, my heart was bumping and I hit. I'm exclusively hitting three woods right now.

I can control the ball. I have such a more fluid swing off the tee with the three wood. And I'm hitting it really far. Perfect draw right down the middle. I missed one fairway all day. I was, I was nonstop hitting fairways. It was crazy. So I had a three one in my hand, nice 180 yard first hole or whatever it was playing.

and I drilled one right down the middle and drew and you just heard the guys behind me go nice shot Frankie that was big but I knew that the reaction was going to be like this kid fucking sucks and they were going to roast me had I not hit a perfect shot so I mean my it's the way it usually goes good what a moment these guys were ready to pounce

I could feel it because they didn't say anything to me I heard them in the background like there goes Frankie let's see what this happened now was that your first kind of public T shot after Bethpage no have you had another big one It seems like everywhere we're freaking go I agree with that dude it's like I played six rounds.

I think every single first T has had a set of eyes on me. And not because of like whatever. Like that's just because this podcast, I feel like anyone that works at a golf course, you're going to get a couple people that. I agree. It's usually the workers. Always.

Yeah, no, it's, I haven't hit like a non-public first tee shot in a year. And I hit. No better feeling than drilling it. When you just do a twirl. Did you do a twirl?

Did a twirl? I did a twirl. I gave him a nice little head nod. Like, we see you, I'm like, that's right. That's right.

That's right. Yeah, you better see me. That's right. British Open. We've got to get into this. There's a couple things that have happened in the last couple of days since we last did our podcast. I'm going to start with John Rom.

We've talked a lot about John Rom on this show. He had the Star shirt at Wimbledon last week. Trent Daddy blogged it, but we kind of broke it down. I kind of liked the shirt. I thought it was interesting. Good for you. You're going to Wimbledon. You know whenever you're an athlete or any sort of person of notoriety and you go to Wimbledon,

you're going to be on TV. That's just what it is. John Ron was asked in his presser today about the shirt. We're going to put that audio in right now. John, have you managed to catch up with Thomas Peters since he was cheekily poking fun at your outfit at Wimbledon? No, I haven't seen him this week. You've not seen it?

No. He had some fun on Twitter about it. Well, I saw the tweet. I haven't seen him, no. And I'm not necessarily go look for him after something like that. It's quite a unique ensemble. Do you usually quite a lively dresser in that respect? I mean, I like to stay up with modern fashion.

I can always say that wasn't my first choice of shirt to wear. The tie was, the shirt wasn't. I still just got to wear with confidence. That's all I can say. Was it kind of the only one that was there, the only one that was ironed and ready to? Yeah, for reasons I'm not, for, you know, it just didn't come. The shirts I wanted to wear, they didn't come from the dry cleaners on time,

but still, I mean, it's one of the shirts that I have that I've worn before. It's not meant to be worn with a suit. I'd rather not go to a royal box with a starred shirt. but it's what I had. I got compliments in the Royal Box, so as far as I'm concerned, it was a good day. Royal Silver approval. John Rob's answer to about this shirt

is one of the more surprising things I think I've ever seen. He didn't own up to it at all. He, like, he was pissed. He was pissed and he was like, oh, yeah, the dry cleaner. I didn't, my shirts didn't get shipped to the right place. Dude, just own it. Like, you lit the Internet on fire, just be like, that's the shirt I wanted to wear.

That's the tie I wanted to wear. I thought it looked great. I wanted to own Wimbledon, and I did. Everybody was talking about me and nobody else. But instead, he was like, oh, yeah, I didn't mean to wear that shirt. I mean, that stays consistent. He has, like, the worst poker face of all time for questions coming in. He instantly reacts.

You can see it on his face, and then he just gives a spastic answer, which was the one he gave about his shirt and, like, that's a liar. It wasn't ready in time, so I had to go with that one. That wasn't my number one choice. But then he had a couple good comments on that where he was like, you just got to wear it with confidence. spot on. But like that should have been the main theme of his whole response should have been talking about that kind of stuff. He said, I did get a couple compliments from like the Royal

Box to be sitting in. So, uh, so it was a win-win or something. That should have been his main theme. And then he kept going back to this whole like, that wasn't my number one choice. Obviously, I didn't want to wear a star shirt getting super defensive. It's like, you're just wearing a ridiculous shirt. Who cares? It's funny. What you do with fashion when you wear something outlandish is you make the people who criticize you, make them feel stupid. So you say, if you don't get it, then you don't know fashion. And that's what John Rom should have. done. Instead, he did the dry cleaning thing, but if he just says, that's the shirt I wanted to wear, I knew it looked good, I knew it would draw eyeballs, everyone was talking about it, I win.

You make the other people feel stupid, but instead, he didn't do it that way. Then he also on the Thomas Peters stuff, who, uh, he was asked directly about, yeah, guys like Thomas Peters were kind of giving you a little bit of a hard time about it on Twitter. And instead of kind of laughing all that, he legit was pissed at Peters and gave, uh, like, no, I haven't seen him yet. And I'm not really looking to see him. He was like legit rattled. So I went back and looked. I mean, the tweet is the most harmless tweet I've ever seen.

Unless there's one I couldn't find. I was looking all over Thomas Peters. Like, no, all he did was he said at Eddie Pepperl, take it from here, boss. I'm on the floor. And then he tagged like Chanel, Hugo, boss, Gucci, and said, please help with the picture of Ram in his star shirt attached. That is the most harmless tweet of all time. I didn't even really get it.

I get it now that you just spelled it out like that. So he's saying, like, get this guy some help because his outfits is that. outrageous. That's a pretty benign tweet. He didn't even like roast him. He just said, please help this guy. Like, okay. You're wearing a star shirt, man. Just poking out. No big deal. Also, it's Wimbledon, so people wear crazy outfits. It's not like you go there, like, a white shirt and like a basic tie. No, no, it's like a crazy hat. You just wear kind of like fashion forward stuff. I don't really know what that is, but I know people try.

If I'm Thomas Peters at the Open Championship, I got my head on a swivel. I think John Rom's going to come out of nowhere and clothesline him. I think this goes right back to Rom's coach or like the bomb diffuser that's trying to help him with his attitude and like digesting information, taking a deep breath and acting accordingly. Like he has no ability to do it. So I hope he plays well this week. But if it goes south and there's bad weather, bad rain, I don't know if he's going to adjust to it too. Rom's the one guy bet on to win this week. He's all got him.

He's only going to got him like 14 to 1. But me and Smith are on the ROM train. I like it. I'm not even betting on Tiger this week because Tiger, so we'll get to him next. New Amsterdam vodka. That's what I make transfusions with. That's what I drink transfusions with. My favorite golf course drink.

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Like, It's not what you want to hear from him How's your game feeling? He goes, It's not as sharp as I'd like it to be. I'm always, I'm always trying to think one step ahead Just like Tiger does.

And I mean, that just may be like, yeah, sleep on me. You know, my name's not that sharp. You know, don't think about me. Think about these other guys, you know. You know, Rory's back home. Let him get the shine. Don't think about me.

I'm not sharp this week. And then he's just going to roast everyone. And you're probably right. You know, and it made me think kind of like whenever Jack Nicholess says something, I always have to take it with a grain of salt and always think like, What's your angle, Jack?

What's your fucking angle, man? And so you always got to take that with Tiger, too, right? Like, of course, I'm sure his game's fucking fine. He did say his touch around the greens is phenomenal. He's on my short game and my touch on the greens is perfect. I just have to work on shaping the ball a little bit because we're going to get some different wins and stuff. So the more he kind of elaborated on it, the better I felt. And he's Tiger Woods.

So, in my opinion, he should be the betting favorite of every tournament he ever plays in. But I won a good amount of money on him when he won the Masters. And I'm a little bit hesitant because his odds are horrible. and it's going to be cold. I don't like that with the boss man. It's going to be like 60 degrees in raining. And the boss man's, you know, surgically fused back that makes him basically the Terminator doesn't do great in cold weather. Did we talk about all the Brooks Kefka stuff on the last show?

I can't remember. Where with the Brooks Kevka press conference and Tiger's saying that Brooks ghosted him on playing a practice around at Royal Port Rush. No, I don't think we did. What did you guys think of that? I thought that was all that stuff was pretty interesting. Well, I think it came out that he just, he has a different number. Oh, did it really? I thought that's what.

I thought like golf digest, I'm pretty sure I saw somebody research it. It was like, did Brooks goes Tiger? Does he just have a different number now? Oh, if that's the case, then there's nothing to read into. Which is kind of weird because I think like, I think some, I think people here at Barstool have Brooks kept his number. So like if Tiger, like, yeah, but he's Tiger. You think Tiger's out there being like, hey, I want to make sure I have your most updated number, man. No.

Probably tax him for the first time in a year. The fact that he, yeah, but see, like, I don't, that doesn't make sense. Because the fact that Tiger texted Brooks Kepka's, like, wrong number, like, you would think that they have somewhat of a, you know, connection, like, to say you want to go play. Yeah, but even the way Kiz talks about, like, whenever he texts Tiger and stuff, he says, Tiger texts him, like, militaristically. He always says, like, Roger that, 10-4. I just think Tiger always- Oh, I don't I know that life. Don't I know all about Tiger doing that? Yeah.

He'll confuse the shit out of you with that stuff. You sure do, Trent Daddy. He'll- He'll say some-hmm. Maybe Brooks just had enough of that and, like, blocked his numbers. Like, I don't get any of this. I don't understand it. I just got to get away from it And then Brooke said interesting things during his press conference

Essentially things that he said on this podcast But he's gotten more bold about it being like He doesn't care about lesser tournaments And only cares about majors That's like the number one question he gets at press conferences It seems like now And now he's just flat out saying I don't practice for non-majors

When you see me on TV That's when I'm golfing Here's my question You think he's like doubling down on that Just because he's sucked in non-majors No I think he genuinely doesn't care and the reason I said, or at least not even close to the same degree. And the reason I believe that is because of the travelers when there were a couple of stuys that I saw who were like, yeah, we got here an hour before Brooks's tea time to watch him on the range.

We were all jacked up. He came out. He stumbled on to the T five minutes before his tea time hit like five balls and then walked to the first T. Clearly he's doing, clearly what he's doing is working. But think about how much money he could make if, because he's playing in these tournaments. He's not playing. Bet you would have won that. He definitely would have won that.

Yeah, he stinks. It'd be one thing if he's like, I'm not playing these tournaments because they're lesser. But if he's playing in there. Oh, yeah, you weren't here, Frankie, for the JDC roasting. My experience on the first tee at Morris County Golf Club was a thousand times more exciting than anything that happened to John Deere. That's a fact. I was like. Trent was hoping we just covered this on the first podcast.

I smiled a couple times at Morris County. I mean, who smiled at John Deere? Did anyone smile at the John Deer classic? Brooks Kebka is playing in these lesser tournaments. It'd be one thing he wasn't playing. Topper. Who won that? Fertelli's restaurant in St. Charles, Missouri.

Fertellies, do they get free breadsticks? You idiot. If he just played as hard as he played in the majors, he could win these tournaments and you're getting a million bucks. Like, it's not nothing. Here's my question. Do you think, like, it's not a question. Why did you raise your hand?

Here's my statement. We've now given Brooks Kepka like an out. Like, he'll never have to perform for, 80% of his season. He's just going to have to perform for four tournaments. And like, why are we allowing this to happen? Let's call him out on his bullshit and be like, you have to start winning other tournaments, dude.

Why? What do you mean why? Because he's playing. He's playing in them, though. He's playing in them. He has to keep his card. Well, then go win it. You have to play in like 15 events.

Like, I don't think it's cool to suck or whatever it is. I don't think it's cool. I don't think that's cool. I actually agree with that. Like, I think it's fucking stupid. Since he's playing in the tournaments, like he has to keep his card, you but then you have to put forward more effort. You would have to be at the range probably for like an hour

or get a roll in the greens. I think that if he doesn't want to do that and that keeps his like energy up for majors. He can do it every once. He's Brooks Keppkegay. He's won four majors that's clearly working. But there's got to be something in him where he's like, I could just dust these people and make way more. I know the rules don't allow him to only play the majors.

But that is when that narrative would be awesome. If he elected to never play a golf tournament except for the majors and then won every single one. Like he just kept winning majors. and they're like, when is he going to show up to our tournament? Like, no, like, why don't you get some more TV coverage and then I'll be there? But instead, he's showing up to the, like, all these other places, and he's losing. I, okay, I agree to an extent because I think what you guys are saying is, like, he's kind of coming off like the guy who's losing when you guys play, like, golf together and is always like, well, I'm not even trying.

And is always like, well, I'm not even trying. It's so infuriating. Right. And that's like, or in a video game. Somebody's, like, getting killed playing video games and you're chirping him. And they're like, well, I'm not even trying, dude. If I try, I'll win. Why are you here then?

Why are you trying? So I get that to an extent, but I also think Brooks Kevka is very up front about it, which I like. Like he said on our show, and he's now saying out there, like, unless you see me on TV playing golf, I'm not playing golf. He's doing that because essentially he can make a lot more money by qualifying for the FedEx Cup and getting to the Tour championship. He can make millions more dollars doing all of that. And in order to keep his tour card and keep his status and not get in trouble with PJ Tour, he has to play an X amount of events. So he does it. But I think it's very clear that, you know, in order.

to be one of the best players in the planet in order to win major championships like you have to be dedicated as fuck you have to like be out there grinding working on your putting like remember at the at the pga championship even though he had told us a week before about how like he kind of just shows up and plays and all that like remember how much he was out grinding on the putting green and like he had a he had a coach out there he had like the whole fucking uh little little uh mechanism where he's like working on if his strokes going straight back straight through he was out there like legitimately grinding and I think in order to go from a top 50 player in the world who's kind of like you can make a cut

to whatever it takes to be six shots better over the course of 72 holes like that takes a lot of commitment and focus and I just don't think he cares enough to do that during regular events you're right but I want him at one point to be like for the next three months I'm going to prove it to you guys that I could win these tournaments if I really put my mind to it if I wanted to grind it out if I wanted to have to prove to us that No, I know, but it would be, I want to see the greatness of that if he's willing to do it, because that would be awesome. Because I think he could really make a showing and really, his legacy is going to be fine.

We're way too soon to be talking about that. But it would be fun for him to do it for a stretch just to see it. I agree with all that. But I think the thing that you're not understanding maybe is like his internal. Are you mansplaining to Trent? What was that? I felt like I'm getting mansplaining. I almost left the room.

Golfsplaining to Trent? Well, I just, yeah, I don't think that he, like, I think you're not understanding his. drive. Like maybe he just gets burnt out from golf if he does do that grind and he's done that over the year. So now he just focuses on what's important to him. So you know, Bryson won three months. Bryson tried to once golf spleen to us. Remember that? Yeah, he did. He golfs playing to you. I'm just, you know, I'm throwing out the other side that I don't think Trentine right now. I think because Kepkin can do it every once. And what he's doing now? Like I said, it works. But I like Brooks Kepka. I just think that we're giving him an out that I don't think he desert. Like I think like it's

bullshit that he gets this like out that every time he doesn't, he doesn't perform well in a tournament. We're just like, well, it's just Brooks being Brooks. He'll be fine. And then, like, what happens if he starts, like, losing in major championships? What if he starts, like, missing cuts of majors? What are we going to do now? Oh, now he's just going to try at the PGA tour in regular tour events? He's going to start trying now.

Like, Brooks is trying now. And what if he doesn't win there? I think he's setting himself up for failure with that stuff. Well, if he starts, like, maybe he just fades away from golf. Like, if he can't compete at the highest level, because maybe his interest isn't so, like, I'm obsessed with golf. I want to play every day. I want to get better.

You know, maybe he's just got this exorbitant amount of talent. and like he really only can put himself to golf for this amount of time for the year. So if he does more than that, he burns himself out and actually his play dwindles is my only other side of the argument. Which that could be true. But like Frank, he's saying, like even putting that narrative out there gives him an out. And it actually makes it more difficult on him because now every time it's like, oh, like Brooks is trying this week. Totally. The pressure is more finite than it is for a guy.

And you know how he's done? Second, first, tied for second, first, tied for 39th, first, tied for 13th, tied for 13th, tied for six first. Fucking great. Those are his last nine major championship. The narrative has revved up a thousand times more this year, though.

Brandel was trying to say that this is when it came out, actually. This is almost better than Tiger's run when he won three out of four. Because he went first, first, first. He won four in a row. Tiger won four in a row. Sorry, but in one year he went first, first, fifth, which is a total of like eight, I guess,

on the one, one, five with another one in there. And then if Brooks gets second or better here, it would actually be, you know, I guess six or better. So he was making a small point on that on the golf channel, which I don't agree with because I think three wins is better. I was going. He's just wrong, but it's interesting. You know, Brandl's a, you know, he's an anal-old guy.

I like Brano. I love Brattle, but, I mean, he's just wrong about that. I agree. Remember we got in that big debate with him about that Dustin Johnson's shot in fucking Hawaii being the best shot ever? Ever. He said ever. He was like, nope, I'm right.

I wasn't on the pod for that, but Riggs and I discussed that in the apartment. And it made no sense. I knew he was going to come in, too, and he just defended the shit out of it. ever he's like his long thing was like so it was when dj hit it to like an inch on a par four like four 140 yard par four dj had like a six shot lead at the time it's like the 14th or 12th hole or whatever on the back nine at capelua this was last year it was like a year and a half ago and dj pulls out driver rips one down there like bounces in the perfect spot rolls up to the green is right online and stops like an inch short of the holy taps in for eagle and brandle's like i believe

you can make a very legitimate argument that is the single greatest golf shot of all time And I was like in fucking Hawaii in January. What are you talking about? He had a six shot lead. And he's like, well, if he missed and hit that one out of play, then all of a sudden the tournament is on. And I'm like, no, it's not a six shot lead. So if he hits that out of bounds, he has a four shot lead. And he's Dustin Johnson.

He's trying to say physical golf shots. He was like, he was like hitting it long and straight is the hardest thing to do in golf. Do you agree that it's the best physical golf shot without any, had he done it just at a country club with no tournament aspect? if you're just in like, if tournament golf didn't exist and we're just ranking golf shots that have happened in the world, do you think that's the best one of all time? No, because I think there's a certain element, such an element of luck to it that like many guys have stepped up and hit a drive exactly where they were trying to hit it really far. Like that's happened millions of times. Yeah.

That one just happened to be like, okay, if you hit it in this perfect spot, it'll route. But like, DJ wasn't like, okay, if I hit this exactly where I want to, it will come within an inch of the hole. He didn't say that. Right. He's just like, I'll hit it on this line. He drained it. Would you have said something, would you have said differently? No.

Really? Would it be the greatest shot of all time? How far was it? Like an inch. No, how far was the T? 436. He made a one for 436. That's pretty good.

You're saying it's not the best golf shot of all time. It's also insane because it's rolling at the conversation. It's rolling at the hole and it looks like there's no way it's going to stop. No way. I remember. The wind's like pushing it behind and then all of a sudden it just stops. And you're like, no way. No, that's true.

I just don't know how you get much better than a hole in. and one from 430. Totally. That's, you know how you do that, you hole out on 16 of the Masters from the fucking collar when everybody said you can't get it inside the Marcos ball.

The ball hangs on the edge with the Nike side chirping and then falls in it. I guess that's greatest. There's a difference, right? Like a moment. Greatest golf moment. For sure. And shot and like gravity to like, you know, everything.

430 yards. Watching it right now. 430. He did have big swing at it too. 430 yards. Look, it bounces barely into the rough. That puppy's rolling. Oh, my God.

Truddles down on the green. This thing. It's flying. This thing is cruising. How is that not going to go in? And just stops. Look at that. It's maybe four inches away.

I love they pan right back to DJ. He's obviously got no idea. He's just kind of stumbling down the hill after. He cleaned off the driver head. It should be up there somewhere near the green. No, it almost went in the hole. But anyways, I've disagreed with Brando before that was it. But he always comes in with all these facts and he does this whole thing.

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You're what? Poutter your grondle up, man. It's that in the copy? You just lob it up there. Lob it in there, man. Like LeBron James before a game. Correct. Exactly. Trent Daddy and I like to do. I like to lay on my bed. Fuller out of powder. Naked. And you put the, you put your legs up by your ears. You got some real flexibility. And then you just smack it. You just smack it on the gruntle. And your legs are by your ears? You know, if someone happened to.

I know, I know all about it. If someone happened to walk in on you, it would be a problem. You'd be like, man, I'm just dude wiping over here. I'm just getting comfy. Just getting comfy. We had a guy. We had a guy. You just put your fucking feet by your ears.

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I walk out of the room and it's just dust-bime. What the hell happened in there? Frankie's grundles feeling great. Go get an ice-cold soda. No joke. We were playing. We were at a bachelor party, and there was like, we were playing just a little nine-hole or a really fun time.

And anyways, on the second nine, we all looped up on, like, the 16th hole. The 17th hole, we're playing it. And the Ranger comes over, my buddy greets him. And he goes, what the hell's going on over here, sir? And my buddy goes to him. He's like, oh, sorry, we just thought we just group up, you know, and we'd play the last couple holes together since there's really nobody out here. He was like, I'm not talking about that.

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Just them talking about the course and how they took two holes out and added. They built. They just built from scratch to new holes that they put in. and they turn one par five into a par four and they're saying it looks like it's been there forever and all the players love the changes which is really rare to go to a course that's like hundreds of years old and just put two new holes into it for a major championship

and have people love it. It's just fucking the course looks so good and watching them. Nabolo was running, I retweeted a couple videos. Nabolo, he is on, man. He's out there rolling balls. He had one on the first screen where he rolls it off the false front.

It goes like 50 yards away. So if Nabolo's on, and they are bringing it to close out the year for major championships on the live from coverage. It's my favorite television of the year. Speaking of changing holes, just a quick little story from when I played at Morris County Golf Club this weekend. I don't know what happened. I guess the way the scorecard was in the cart that we were in. I just was reading like the par and everything that was right underneath the boxes

and everything looked normal like on a normal golf card, a scorecard. And none of the, when we were going to the back T's, like we didn't see any of the signs or anything. So we just trusted the scorecard par four, par four, whatever. I'm like, I was two over through eight holes. And I said to my body, I'm like, did you notice that this front is a par 38? I'm like, Seth Rainer. Like, who, like, what is going on here? I'm going to shoot a 40 on the front, two over.

I'm playing lights out. Like, I want to speak to someone. I started talking to someone. Dude, we got to the house. We got to the half my house and I'm like, I want to speak to someone about like this scorecard. I'm, I just played lights out. The stupidest things battle you. I love it.

Dude, par 38. It was like insane. Turns out we were reading the women's par the whole time. Jesus Christ, Frank. Insane. And it actually didn't. So it ended up being par 36 and par 5 ended up being a par 5. So two par 5s ended up on the women that had been par 4s.

Turned out it only affected my score by one stroke. Tough. So you ended up. Yeah, what did you post? Because I don't think you part 9. No. What'd you shoot? What did you shoot 40?

Yes, it was a 40. Oh, okay. After all that, it was a 40. It was a 40. It was a 40. Tough break, Frank. Yeah. Really tough break.

No, it was a tough break. I want to speak to your manager. Can you get the manager? 38? What the hell is that shit? Just some gal making hot dogs. She's like, manager.

That's just how it's been since Seth Rainer did it 100 years ago. It's a 38, 35. I just thought it was insane. I mean, these things happen. Yeah. Also, you got to know that when it's a 35, then in the back, like you have a chance if you shoot four over. You're still in the 30s.

I do a lot of that, too, in my head. I'm like, because my goal is always to try to break 40 on each nine. Yeah. Because then you're shooting some of the 70s, which is a great. That's a great thing to do. And so I do that too. I'm like, what's the par here?

It's always nice when you think it's 36 and you're like four over and you get up there and it's actually 35. You're like 39 for the kid. All right. We've got to go through a couple other people. Phil Mickelson, fireside chat with the needle. Yes. Zach Johnson.

This had to be riveting for you, Trent Denny. It's huge for me because, you know, Phil Mickelson, obviously he wants eyeballs on these videos and he's been doing them by himself for so long. And the first guest he picks, it's Zach Johnson, the needle. That's pretty, that's huge. The video itself, weird, strange. A little long. He probably could have tightened it up a little bit.

Zach was shirtless, which I love. I think that's great. Ever since I saw that picture of Zach Johnson kissing the trophy, you know, when his eyes are open. Yeah. I've just felt weird about him. That was the clever job. Yeah.

He gives him the hippie-jee-jeebies. I know. He just gives him the hebi-Geebies. I mean, you know where that is. Yeah. So I'm a big fan of the video. Like I said, it's strange, but I like that Zach Johnson's getting some play.

I didn't think I was going to like it. I thought it would be too much. I loved it. At the end when Phil goes, I would say hit bombs and fire at pins. Then he goes, but since Zach Johnson's here, I'm going to say, let's all hit cute little drives and aim for the middle of greens, I died at that. When he roast people. That was mean. When he roasted Cochre, when he was driving down Magnolia Lane.

That was great. Phenomenal. And then when he roast the needle, as you call him, good stuff. You know, I thought anytime you get a champion's dinner story from Augusta, I'm going to love it. You're right. It was long-winded, but I was glued into the whole damn thing. Totally. Because it's totally behind the doors.

Like you'd never get access to that story. You hear it. You're like, I love this. It's absolutely tremendous. And I loved it. I thought the interview was amazing. But I will say, every time he brings him on a fireside chat, I think he's going to roast them. It's going to be hysterical.

Me too. If he gets Tiger to do one of those fucking things. Oh, man. Did you see Jake Owen put up a picture on Instagram? And he was like, his caption was on that OG gangster shit, right? And the top comment is Phil Mickelson saying, I feel like I owe you 100 bucks. Yep, that's straight from our podcast, folks. That story continues to go, which is great.

I like the Phil's on, you know, on social media in general. I think he's great at it. And it's nice to have a little callback to our story that got told right here on this podcast. Shout it to Zach for wearing the hat, too. He knows what's going on. We're already past Zach. No, no, no.

But I wanted to give one more shout to Zach. That's how boring he is. I will say to our comment on. I mean, then Phil wouldn't have him on, you know. It was a weird choice. You can admit that. No. Having Zach, having him.

Having the needle as your first guess is an odd choice. That's like when Jimmy Fallon overtook. Speaking of Jimmy Fallon, I once cried at Jimmy Fallon. Right when he came out, Frankie cried. It was because of the ambiance and it was because of, you know, the thrill of the thing. Quest Love. Yes. He came out and said, like, how about that weather?

And then Frankie just started crying. I was a basket case. Wow, it's hot in New Oregon, Frank. That's like Jimmy Fallon taking over the Tonight Show and his first guest being like the most, like, who I'm trying to compare. Preface it, though, in the beginning with being like, I tried to get a couple people. Zach Johnson's the first one. So it seemed like he was his second. I don't know that far.

It was like the only guy you get was Jack Johnson. Yeah, like when they take over like late shows, it's usually like Tom Hanks. Yeah, Tom Hanks is the first one. Always, always Tom Hanks. Zach Johnson is the Tom Hanks of the golf club. No, I mean, come on, someone throw out a name. Who is Zach Johnson compared to if a late night show host is opening up his career show? And they're bringing out that first guest.

and you're like, who the hell is Jimmy Fallon going to open up the tonight show with? And this guy comes walking out and everyone's like, what the fuck? Who's that actor? I'm not going to say a name because... Sean William Scott. Sean William Scott is a good one. Yeah. I mean, he's just like...

He's more interesting than Zach Johnson. Yeah, I'm thinking of like... It was also weird that he brought him out to tell like a really positive Phil Nicholson story. Like, it almost felt like he had kidnapped him. Yeah. It was like, okay, now you have to tell this story. Otherwise, like, I'll kick you off the Ryder Cup team or something. I really would not be surprised if Phil before all that was legitimately sitting at Zach's locker and was like waiting for me to get out of the shower.

This all goes to, hey, we're going to do this. You have to do this Twitter video. You have to tell the Pevlova story now. This all goes to our point of last podcast of how much time is Phil actually spending on this? A lot. This is a whole production. He's casting people. I was wrong on that take.

I thought he wasn't spending a ton of time. This video as soon as I saw it, I was like he's spending a ton of time on this. Dude, I bet he thinks all day every day about his new production for what he's going to do on social media. Because you could even tell when he did his little fasting video the other day, he dedicated half of it to being like, sorry, I haven't been posting. You know, like he's a fucking full-time vlogger who had to apologize to his followers for not updating with fresh content recently. So you know it's on his mind all that. I would like to know how many takes these things. How many it takes?

I think they're one. I think they're one as well after watching the Zach. one. That was one take. Yeah, that was definitely one. There's no way they stopped at any point we're like, no, let's redo this again. So I think he does now he does mostly one take. What are you laughing at? I'm just trying to think of an actor. It's really, I

really hung up on that. Is that the name you're going to go with right now? What's the name? What's he got? I got this guy, Taylor Lawtoner. He was in Twilight. He was like, he was like the wolf from Twilight. Like, and he was kind of popular back in like 2011. Like Taylor Lawtoner was the hot name. I would say it would

have to be someone that literally one. like a best actor And then once Yes exactly That's what you have to find So go on IMDB and figure it out Yeah if anybody has suggestions on who You know Zach Johnson is of the

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Yep. Because we had this narrative in our head, and I started to believe it that, like, the more you hear that he's just not a long ball hitter, you're like, well, then, like, who, what does that mean? Like, am I just like, he hit at 255? Right. Right. And then I was like, yeah, I can absolutely out drive kids.

And now he's just piping the ball. How far? He carried one 314. That's insane. So, yeah. I mean, I don't even come close. He was 0.2 yards shorter than DJ flew it. My first thought was like, was everybody else just using three woods?

But this is like. I know the driving range. Yeah, no. I think they hit drivers on the driveway range. You think? Isn't that insane? I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Me either.

Because, again, when I saw him at the traveler, this was the first time I really was like that up close and personal with him on the range. I was like, it was because nobody go, like, at all the majors that we've been to, there's entourages everywhere. So you can stand back with Dewey, who's his caddy, of course, and be like 20 feet away and kind of chit-chat with his crew and talk to them in between shots. But at the travelers, like, there's just nobody there. So it was just me and kids basically standing right next to each other. And he just started piping drives. And as someone who plays a ton of golf and sees, like, everything from long hitters, shorehers, I was like, dude, you are fucking roasting the ball.

And he was like, I'm one of the best players in the world, dude. Like, yeah. I was talking to you like you're an idiot. I was like, I know we hang out and we talk about like, it seems like we're just having beers and hanging out, but yes, I am one of the best players in the world,

dumb, dumb. Like in the world, there's fucking 8 billion people on the planet, and he's like a top 25 player of all of them at golf. So, yeah, I can hit the golf ball, dude. And yeah, here he is out of the British Open.

He carried one 315. That's just a missile. I know, that's a missile. Charlie Hoffman, I saw he was on the, I believe it was the open Instagram story. I thought this was very interesting. They were talking about whole-on-one. He was like, the last one I got was at Augusta on the 16th hole. People remember that he got a hole-in-one, an ace, maybe a couple of years ago on 16 at Augusta.

It was on Sunday. It was on a Sunday. I remember that video. It was very cool. I think it was on a Sunday. But they're asking him about it about whole-in-one. He posed the question of if you get a hole-in-one in a practice round, or if you hole-out in a practice round on your second ball on the T, but it was the first time that you were aiming at the pin, does it count?

Which I thought was a fucking hilarious, cocky answer. And his point was like, you know, like we played a different pin positions because we're trying to prepare. So I was like, all right, I'm going to see you if I get one of the back lefties. Like the pin was actually front right. And then the second one, I was like, all right, now I'm going to aim at the pin. And I jarred it. He's like, does that count? I don't know.

I was just like, what world are you living in, man? Like, we're just stepping up trying to. No, I think the answer is no. No, it's definitely not. but like, it's close. Why is it not? I was just going to say definitely maybe strong.

No, I think it's a definite no. It's a no. Especially if it's his second ball. Like if it's his first ball. But he's not aiming. He's not aiming. It's the same thing as like.

Right. They'll be like, but he is gathering data on that first shot, no matter what's going on. That's a good point. Yeah. Like what the wins like, what's everything like?

And everybody knows like when you come to a part three, they'll be like this whole always plays half a club longer. Yeah. You know, people just say that. So he was, he was able to gather. gathering data whether he realizes or not. I'm sure he does.

You're gathering data. Like if you play a course back-to-back days, you know what I mean? It's like... That's very different. It's very different. Yeah, wind's different on different days, Frank. It's just a different day. It's not with, it's different.

24 hours is different than. I think that headband's a little tight. 24 seconds. Not letting as much blood get to the brain. Frankie's a drummer. It is. We actually talked about like this new outfit that I'm wearing now. It's like, you know, the skinny jeans, the long baggy shirts and the headband with the spiky hair.

It's a good. Like, I think if you're trying to be a cool dude, like a cool skinny dude. but it doesn't really like work with my like lifestyle at all like no I'm going to like start talking golf and like it just doesn't it doesn't mesh well with golf you know it does match well with is are your tits okay I didn't see that comment I didn't see that comment you really rolled up on him slow there and then just punch him in the face because they at the baggy shirt the pause was outrageous you look much better I gotta be honest You know that.

I didn't know that was coming out. But I agree. I think the tits in the gut definitely get hidden by the bench. They're doing a lot as well as ROM right now with that question. No, I know. I wasn't. It's a compliment. It looks, you look great.

I think, I mean, are they showing? No. Not at all. So then that's a success. Agreed. That was my point. The headband is a good look for you. Your legs were showing earlier.

Yeah. I don't want to talk about that. I saw a photo of your legs. I had to put the legs out. We were running in the ocean. It was bad, man. First time, like, there's parts of my leg, first time I saw the sun, probably over a year. Full year.

I would say multiple years. No. You wore some shorts one time last year, I think. Yeah, like, I've worn swim shorts. Like, this year, I haven't jumped in the pool yet. We got to do a bet at one point where, like, I'll wear something outrageous. And then if I beat you, you have to wear shorts. We'll figure that out.

Dude, I was golfing. No, where was I? Because it wasn't, well, I guess it was at Morris County. I can't, everything felt like it happened at that one round. But it was a scorcher that day. And I remember saying to my buddy,

he's like, you really can't wear shorts. I'm like, dude, like I can't do it. And now the fact that I talk about it this much, I really can't because I know I'll walk upon like a pack of wild stoolies that would be like,

freaking your legs. Like, leave your feet around or whatever. And what do you know? The first tee, I had six guys staring at me. Imagine my legs were out. Yeah.

Just feet are out. Look, there's his life. At one point, I was like, this is fucking hot, man. Like, I got to, I got to figure something out. Maybe I'll get zippers, and then when I get out into the golf course, they can unzip. What color pants were you rocking? I had to go beige. I couldn't go black.

Right, because you usually go black. Yeah, I went beige. I went beige. I had a nice outfit on. That looked great. I had a nice outfit on. A couple more things. One, the weather, it's going to be rainy and cold.

And I do like Thursday, I'm seeing 15 mile an hour wind. And I like that. So I'm on the, you know, I'm pulled up a weather app and it's got all the wind on the right. And I like that every day it's a different direction because that just fucks with people. That means we're going to get more carnage. It's west-southwest on Thursday, south-southeast on Thursday, on Friday, northwest on the south on Sunday. So different wind fucks with these guys every day because the whole course plays differently.

I'm seeing 15-mile-an-hour wind, 10-mile-hour wind, 11-mile-an-hour wind and 15-mile-hour wind, which, when you're actually on the coast and out there on the golf course, it's usually even more than that than it says in the town and all that. So great news, and it's going to be rainy. Now, I think that the course, it won't play that hard because the rain, of course, softens it a little bit, but we're going to have some carnage, which is great. The course looks like it's really hard, which is great. Are you able to bet on it over, under on what, like, the average score is going to be in a major?

I think so, yeah. Thanks on certain books you can. I like that. Probably just have to find that bet. Right. That's a good bet on majors, especially when, like, the weather, if you think it's going to play hard or is there going to be carnage. Also just love Saturday because everything else. is south at some point it's you know south southwest or south southeast um but then you can't you can't

say south i just i just try to do it quickly no you said south south southeast well you said south south south you just have i have to take a little pause there i try to just blend that through it wasn't make the h sound go south south south south you got it south southwest you you can't do that what is that too we from family i yeah south whipped cream what south whip cool whip wheat wheat things Anyways, Saturday's, Saturday's blowing north, so I'll be excited. I agree with that. It's a great jam. Saturday.

Saturday. Saturday. Saturday. I like Ludacris is Saturday more. Do you? Give that a go. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Nailed it.

Yeah, that was awesome. That's really good stuff. I mean, that was pretty fucking. That was awesome. Boy, you hit that pitch like you wouldn't believe. That's how the song starts. That's great. You nailed it.

Yeah. Do it again. Ooh. Incredible. You have good pitch. I have a terrible pitch. You're tone deaf. Yep.

Ooh, ooh, ooh. Yep. That's just way worse. See, in my ears, that sounds like I almost hit it. Not the first ooh, but the second sounds like I crushed it. You're so many levels off. I mean, yeah, I've never been good with it. No.

I've got a friend who's tone deaf. He won't admit that he is. Worse than me? Yeah, he's never once hit a note in his life. Dude, the instruments. Never once. It was so fitting, like in the third grade. I think it was a third and fourth grade band.

I played the trombone. That's such a large, fucking item. It's the worst instrument of all time. The tuba is so much better than the trombone. Oh, yeah, I was thinking of the tuba. Close. Damn. Trombone stinks.

Oh, it's horrible in all music classes. It's just not that great of noise. Like, if you're going to, like, you'd rather play like the French horn if you're going to do something with like. It's also just kind of an uncomfortable instrument. I think I told this story, maybe not on this podcast, but there was a Thanksgiving dinner. Did I tell you guys this? Thanksgiving dinner. My cousins all play these beautiful instruments.

Absolutely like just they come off perfectly. Like a violin, the piano, just like really nice instruments that you can play by themselves in a small room. And it's like, it's like, oh, that's a nice sound. But for Thanksgiving, all the grandkids had to like play their instrument of the year. And so we all all go up there. My cousins play these beautiful instruments and they're all really, really musically gifted. And then I have to come and clean up with. the trombone in a room that's literally

like maybe two of these podcast rooms very, very small. My uncle bags was literally pissing his pants laughing as I just cleared out the room with the most awful noise of all time right before everybody ate their Thanksgiving dinner. It's the stupidest thing of all time.

It's a very tough instrument. It's really hard. It's also it's impossible to make that sound good by itself. Yeah, it's impossible. Yeah, but it's not just never meant to be. You got to hit like one good slide. Uh-oh. That's nice.

Try better. That's good. Last thing I want to touch on Pete Cowan, who is, he helps, he's a coach, he's a golf instructor. He actually helps Brooks Kevka with a lot of his short game stuff. He commented on Matt Wallace, who he had a little bit of a viral clip where he was berating his caddy on the European tour, like berating his catty, just like screaming right in his ear. You couldn't really hear what you're saying, but you could tell like he's legit, like going back and yelling at his caddy. And Pete Cowen came out and said, he is a complete idiot, and the European tour has to do something about it.

It's a form of cheating because you're putting your opponent off. Best thing would have been if his caddy had dropped his bag. I would have chucked it in the bloody lake, but that wouldn't do him any good. So, called him a complete idiot and said the PG-A tour had to do something about it. I like that. Anybody who says that in the world of golf, I have to mention it. And so that's great little comments from him. He's pretty opinionate guy.

I was going through some of his other stuff, and he likes to get his words out there. He's pretty aggressive with his words, and he's with our boy, Brooks Kevka. so I like all the things that are happening there. Do you agree that it's a form of cheating? That feels like a little bit of a stretch. That feels like a stretch. Now, people have said that about slow play. People have said that like what J.B. Holmes does is cheating.

That, like, him taking that long. Good point. And affecting your playing partners is literally cheating. Like, you're going against the spirit of game. Changing the rhythm. You're going against the rules, and therefore it's cheating. I don't know if I agree with that. Cheating is such a strong.

strong word and it's one of those stigmas in golf that like once somebody ever labels you like cheater in any way shape or form you're kind of just fuck in the world of golf so I think it's harsh but again I kind of like kind of like that he came with that kind of fire me he's calling him a cheater and said he's very stern language yeah very stern so that's pretty much all I got we've got christie Kerr up next again really cool interview we love the women's game LPGA tour winner 20 times over a couple major championships we get into a lot of that we have a good little chat I have the actor that I think I'd compare. His name is

Gene Du Jujard Gene Sorry, you only get one shot. Du Jarden. Dean Dujardin. That's how boring this guy is. He won Best Actor for...

I just didn't deliver it good enough. The artist in 2011. You know, he was the art... You know, he just got the yips. Do you want us to cut this part out of the podcast? You just got the speaking hips. This guy has the worst last name of all time. What was he here?

I don't even recognize him. Gene. to Jarden. No, I'm looking at all of his Google images. I don't recognize him in all. Exactly. Like, this guy comes in. It's got to be like, De Jardin.

Du Jardin. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you do your little, why didn't you do Jardin? Oh, maybe it's Jean. Jean du Jardin. That sounds much better. He's French.

It's probably not right. Either way, we don't know. I said Gene. That's bad. This guy's not as recognizable as Zach Johnson. All right. The fact that you called him Gene. The other one was Eddie Redmayne.

He's the guy who was, uh, this actually may be more. more, you know, spot on, because he actually won Best Actor for a movie that, like, the Stephen Hawkins movie. I've never seen that. You've never seen it. And now he's in those Harry Potter extension, the Grinwald movies, you know, the Oh, yeah, yeah, fantastic beasts and where to find them. So he's in the mix.

I know who that is. You know, the moral of the story is that Zach Johnson's just not the needle, and I know you say that he is and is comparable to someone having an opening night show and just bringing out someone that, no one gives a shit about. I feel great. Thanks for closing. After your last three minutes,

what happened there, I feel great about Zach Johnson. You know, because you really try to take your shots at him there and it just didn't. Yeah, there's a bunch of misses. Gene Digiardin is just not the way that name is said.

I mean, if you pronounce his name like that, then yeah, no. It's just not the way his name is pronounced. Jean. Jean dujidan. That was like,

that was just the most American thing of all time. And I've made fun of people for saying like Merlot and stuff like instead of Merlo. You just say it like You just marlotta. You marlotted his name.

Gene Du Jardin. Excuse me, do you have the mozzarella sticks? Yeah, that's how most people say it. That's actually normal. Can I please have a grilled chicken casadilla? Can I just get some water? That was a shot at something that you weren't prepared to it. I mean, I don't charge for water at Borales.

We don't charge for water. And if you want to go fax for facts, I can be here all day and beat you in some missions. We don't do it. Christy Kerr's up. up next British show, but enjoy it. Carely for it. Getting up early, hanging, watching golf. It's a beautiful time to be alive.

Enjoy the British show, but enjoy Christy Kurt. Rough and rowdy nine. This is the ninth one. If you have not experienced a rough and rowdy, you need to check it out. They're going to Fort Bragg, North Carolina this Friday night for a red, white, and bruised beat down. I love the taglines that come up with these things.

So good. The titles that come up with. They're also must watch Thursday. Oh, God. Who does the taglines? Because they're always great. I'm not sure who does. I don't want to not give the right credit to whoever makes it.

Is your shoulder and arm ready for this? Your camera boy. We have a new little contraption. I told Pete that I'm not showing up to the next one unless you figure us out. This is nine, right? This is number nine. For the last eight, I've walked away from those things almost like in a sling. Tommy John.

Or like, you know, paralyzed. So I'm like, you got to figure something out. I don't know what you have to do, but the thing's just too heavy and medley from my bone structure, my body. Like everyone else who carries these things. around are big, hefty men. And I'm like this, when I, when the guy who shows me how to use the camera hands it to me, he's like, you got this all that?

I'm like, yep, he's like, good luck. And I'm like, good luck. And I'm up there for five hours because it's just an unbelievable event that just nonstop action, you can never put the camera down. When I'm, when the fight is over, the ring girl comes in. When the ringer goes out, the next fight's on. It's nonstop. Yep.

It's nonstop fighting. But we have this little like pole that's going to come down. So like the pole, I like, I like gave him this idea. And apparently it's like, it's a. thing that just attaches to cameras. The pole will attach from the bottom of the camera just hit the ground. So now all the weight will be supported. It's almost like a tripod, essentially.

It's just one pole. And I can lift it up if I need to move it and just put it down. All the pressure hits the ground as opposed to my shoulder. There you go. Saving your legs. Rough and rowdy, amateur fighters, they got no defense. They're throwing haymakers. They're smoking each other.

Funniest action you'll ever see for four straight hours. You get laugh out loud commentary from Big Cat, Large. Robby's out there. Large making his debut for Ruff and Routy is going to be so funny because he just, he's like the most wittiest guy you'll ever meet and you'll ever hear talk. And his love for boxing, I think he's going to like, I think he's going to just come up with such funny things to say about these guys who have no idea how to actually box. Because he knows the X's nose.

Yep. But he also knows like the funny side of it. So I'm really, I love having the commentary on my ear when I'm on the ring because I'm just going to die the entire time. Buy R&R.com. That's how you go. Get this. Again, it's Friday night. It's four hours of entertainment.

Maybe you get a bunch of buddies together. You get some drinks and you sit down and watch Rough and Rowdy 9 at Fort Bragg because it is a spectacle by R&R.com Friday night. All right. We are now joined in studio by a very special guest, Christy Kerr 20-time LPGA tour winner, won a couple major championships over 19 million in career earnings, which is a little shot at our guy, Kevin Kisner,

who he always drops that number as well. She's up there with kids, which I love to hear. But you're here. You're in studio. First impression is walking into martial sports. Well, you guys just moved, didn't you? It needs a little work. That's what I think.

Thank God you didn't see our last time. It was a pig sty, the last one. Well, thank you. I'm honored to be here. You have such a following. And even though I'm a golfer, I make alcohol. That's way cooler, right? So we got the Lachloman whiskey in here.

This is, of course, the official spirit of the Open Championship. talk a little bit about, you know, the scotch, the whiskey, how you got involved? Well, I started a wine company in 2008, which our first brand was called curvature. We made that with one of the top hundred wine estates in the world by Robert Parker, Pride Mountain Vineyards. If you haven't been there, it's a beautiful wine estate. I recommend anybody going to it. And then we got popular pretty quickly. Got a lot of great media stuff.

We were served at the White House for a state dinner. my love of wine and wine education continued. We started the Kerr Sellers brand in 2013 with Helen Kepler. She was on the cover of Wine Spectator. She was Food and Wine Magazine Wine Maker of the Year. And my education continued and passed my level one sommelier exam a couple years ago. And I'm studying to be a certified SOMs. So Psalms not only do wine, but they do spirits.

So it was pretty cool to be over at the Scottish Open two years ago. And to be able to, this really all started with me going to La Cologne and Distillery because I wanted to learn about Scotch and how they make Scotch and see their coopridge. And I don't know. I just kind of started geeking out about wine and scotch. And I hit it off with Colin, who's one of the owners. And away we went. So it sounds like you like alcohol.

Yeah, kind of. Not on the golf course, though. Even a simile is one of the, it blows my mind. I don't know how you do it. It's one of those things I always thought was fake. There's no way you can tell the difference between one wine and the other just by swishing it around your mouth. There were a bunch of words in there that I didn't understand. When you said you got your license, you got all this, I don't know what those are.

But is that what it is? You can know the difference between a bunch of different wines. You can tell like what like vine it comes for all that stuff, right? Can't you? I'm not at that level, but I'm studying. And studying is doing a lot of research. Research is drinking a lot of wine and a lot of stuff. So it's all research.

So when people like us say, you know, I can't tell a different. between like, you know, two-buck chuck and a $200 bottle of wine. Well, you're going to know the difference today. I can tell you that. The quality of scots right here. That's right. And, yeah, the lack of lovel. But you, so, like, what can you tell?

What can you very easily either by, you know, swishing it around or taking a sip or two? I mean, so the quartermaster sommelier has this thing called a deductive tasting method, which there are five steps in which you can break a wine down by color, by the nose, by the palate. the amount of oak on the wine, the amount of crushed rock or whatever it may be. So they teach this to you. And I'm usually way too quick on the draw, and I usually get it wrong half the time because I just want to get it right. Yeah. So I can't, you know, I go really fast.

But if I do take my time and I do break it down like they've taught us to do, I would say I can get it most of the time. That's crazy to me. Yeah. Me too. Because like a sommelier, am I saying that right? Samilliers. Samilliers, same thing. They'll come up to a table at like a really fancy restaurant or a nice, you know, a nice

establishment. And then they'll talk about the wine. You're like blowing away me. Like I'm just like, give me anything red. Like, I don't know. And I'll just listen to what you say. But then the one day you come up to like an expert wine drinker, you've got to be on your game. Well, it sounds like we need to do a barstool sports wine tasting class at some point too.

Done. We should do it at Borelli's. Or a whiskey tasting. Yeah, we are doing the whiskey tasting today. Yeah. Well, we have one anyways. So which. which is very rare.

2002, first year I ever won a tournament single malt. That's what this is right here? Scott McLaughlin whiskey. I am a delicate little flower as Mr. Nick Faldo called me, but I will try it. Only one of 4,000 bottles produced. Are you kidding? Is that right?

Yep. Oh, my. That bottle. Look at that box. Look at the box. Beautiful. So we're opening this puppy up right now. You had me at whiskey. Oh, yeah.

So that bottle. You know, what is it about this, Scott? that you like so much? What are some qualities? I happen to be a huge fan of the Loch Loman Distillery and their whiskey because they're in Scotland. It's the home of golf. They're one of the oldest houses.

I mean, 1814, they started. So they have, I mean, readily available is the 12 and the 18 year that you can find in the New York marketplace. But, you know, they're distributed in 100 countries around the world. nearly every state. I mean, they're huge. And they offer so many different kinds of products. And I kind of geek out when I go to the distillery

because I get to taste the stuff that is only sold at the distillery. Much like you would go to Napa or anywhere else where they have wine just for the winery. So that was a special experience for me, getting to see that and see how they age things in a special system called the Salara system of aging, which is mainly used for sherry, but widely used now for Scotch aging.

It's pretty cool. That's awesome. So I just poured myself a glass over here. I'm getting ready to rock. There's a lot of microphones and things going on, so I couldn't pour everyone else's and also do the radio or do the podcast at the same time. There you go. But I'm about to,

you know, I'm watching everybody's pouring. We're getting ready to rock. These cute little glasses. So one cool, yeah, one cool thing. And if you want, we can get you some of the Locke Loman branded glasses.

But one really amazing thing about this whiskey that differentiates it from most any other product out there. is that the wine was finished for a year in our 2016 Pinot Noir barrels, which just received 94 points from Wine Spectator. Wow, look at that. Yeah. All right. So does that give it a lighter tint? When it was first being aged, it had actually kind of like a rosy pinkish tint.

But I'm interested to see what you guys think of this because this scotch has about a three to four minute finish on the palate. So it's not to be three to four minutes I'm so out of my depth when it comes to testing the stuff Let's do it I haven't had breakfast here So this is the first thing entering my body I had a little bit of coffee A little bit of toothpaste

That was about a toothpaste Well this will get rid of that quickly But this can be enjoyed neat Or I like the giant ice cube personally What as they say Artisanal ice cube Oh yeah I'm gonna get three or four minutes of this

That was pretty smooth It's very smooth Wow. When we were with Sir Nick Faddle, you were scared about what was going on. That was very smooth. This was smooth. That was very smooth. Yeah, Sir Nick poured us some scotch.

I don't know. We don't know what it was. I could actually drink this. You know what's amazing about this? Sorry, I talk a lot. So if you want to be shut up. No. Hey, that's what we're here to do.

We're on a podcast. What's amazing about this is that it has a little bit of that, like, smoky, peaty quality to the scotch. But in the mid-pallet, I feel like that sweetness from the peanut barrel comes out. And then it's just coasting along. That's exactly right. I can still, I still got that palate that I'm about two and a half minutes left on this puppy. I love the wording we're using right now. It's unreal.

It's elegant. I love the imagery that's used in, you know, like whiskey talk. Our listeners are going, who the fuck do you guys think? Yeah. The birch and we're taking this for a ride. I love all this stuff. That's great. I love it.

It's amazing. All right. Lock, Blument, we're going to continue to sip this throughout the show. I imagine we'll continue to reference it. Let's talk a little bit. But it's still going, right? You've had one sab. It's still going.

Oh, yeah. Very much so. I feel like I could start a car right now. Very complex. What did you say? I feel warm. I feel like I could start a car right now. I could just by touching it.

I don't know why. If it was the wintertime, you start you start you up right now, your car be ready to go. Oh, yeah. Do you guys ever read Whiskey Advocate? No. I don't think I'm allowed to. I don't have enough facial hair. Are you over 21?

If not, I'm in real big trouble. Barely. I'm 25, but I look like I'm 16. It's true. You should see him try to grow a beard. I'm trying right now. You're going to, one might sprout out after you drink some of this stuff. Don't look at my face.

I'm sorry. It's something. So what do we need to, we need to start reading this? That's a little homework. I just think if you're interested in, well, Wine Spectator for Wine, but Whiskey Advocate for Whiskey, if you're interested in learning, those are honestly the best resources besides research. Okay. We got a couple folks here who consider themselves, you know, pretty well versed in this.

So maybe we'll try it. We'll quiz. If Large is here, we got to bring you over to Large. He's our wine aficionado. I think he'd enjoy this like you wouldn't believe. I mean, I'm enjoying it. If we're enjoying the hell out of it, this is exactly. Hey, you can tell me if it sucks, but I definitely don't think it would.

No, it doesn't suck. It does not suck. It is very special. About to take another sip. So let's get into a little bit of golf. You know what else doesn't suck? Winning 20 LPGA tour events. You know how many times I finished second?

How many times? And I just went over this with my coach because we were trying to set new goals and stuff, 24 times. 24 times. You know how depressing that is? Oh, man. Do you, like that is a good number and also like a disappointing number. So, yes, yes. It's not depressing.

It's great. Right. It's good finish. In poker, they always say like you always forget, you always remember the bad hands where you got screwed and you don't remember the hands where you actually won big pots that you didn't deserve. Do some of the losses stick with you more than some of the wins? Yeah, sometimes. But I think drinking whiskey and wine has made me pretty much forget everything. Were a lot of them losses or did you like, were you in fourth and third and you ended up like squeaking away into.

second um okay so 24 times probably a third of those would be near misses that i could have had that i didn't have like the women's open at sock and valley i feel like i should have had that one and that hurt me for a long time right that that hurt that was heartbreaking um god i mean somebody asked me to name my my wins in 10 seconds and i was like ah ah like i couldn't remember any of it They asked you about a couple of your tough losses. You can rattle up every moment. Yes, we were, you know, hypothetical once where I think it was like,

would you, would you sign up right now to finish in second in like every event you've ever played and you never win? And we're like, yeah, because you just rack. I mean, at some point, you're racking up the money and you just keep going. That's the Tony Fienaut question.

It's the Tony Fienaut question. In a second, like five times. Like, is he, like, at some point, is he starting to get frustrated or is he okay with just finishing in second in every single tournament? He's going to win. And he's going to win big. Yeah.

And he is one of the nicest people. ever oh yeah and he hits it really far with a really short back swing like really far how does he do that I don't know he played right behind us at Spyglass remember that he was right behind us we were just watching him like so he missed he hit it that far he did he missed a cut at ESO when he's playing right behind us you know we're slapping it we're in the fucking trees we're like three jacking all over the place every time we'd walk five feet off the green just the ball would come in like five feet from the pinstay he did it really really far really far I played in the CBS charity uh challenge like three years ago and um

it was like 340 to hit on the green this is Rhode Island this is like cool like humid weather and um they were like come on you got to get off the green fast he's sending it he like flew in the middle of the green he's just that's crazy it makes it look so easy sending the chief so you are naturally left-handed but play golf right handed is that right how does that work is that that can't be that kind very confused very confused I do a lot of things amidextrous um I play ping pong lefty, tennis right or left, chopsticks rider left, cut mostly lefty, throwball righty, kick righty, golf righty. I did start lefty when I started out.

So you started out golfing. Because I thought that would just be a product of just right-handed clubs being around. Correct. But you said you started lefty. I did, but then my father and mother switched me around. I see. Because there wasn't that much instruction. Yeah.

Clubs available. I was hoping there was like some. secret we didn't know. Being able to use chopsticks in the right and left hand is incredibly impressive to me. Because I can barely have a handle on it with my right hand. And you're just like can go back and forth. I don't know. Like my nickname on tour and not self-given.

I think Paul Kramer actually gave me this nickname is Kerr Brain because I have so many different brains. They have the very serious brain, the Somelier brain, the very goofy, self-deprecating brain, like completely random brain. Like we were in the car coming here and they were talking about something. I'm like, oh, we should do this and do this. and they're like, where did that come from? What are you talking about?

Yeah, exactly. Well, you were, I mean, when you played, you had a very serious, or when you play, you have a very serious demeanor. What is, is that, that's one of your. It's always been that way. It's not on purpose. It just, if you're going to do something like, play professional golf, I feel like, you've got to be in it.

You've got to be in it to win it, and you've got to be intense, and can't do it half-assed. What's the most nervous you've ever been over a golf shot? Over a golf shot? Yeah. I mean, probably, I would say, I wouldn't say nervous. I would say like adrenaline, like shaking kind of, like was when I won the open. Some of the putts, like, doesn't matter what you do.

You got to be, you got to try to be calm, but you're shaking. And my heart was like, do do do do do like really fast walking up to the 18th T and I had a two-shot lead. But if, you know, if you hit it in the rough and they had in the fairway, it could be a two-shot swing. and Mike Heddy at the time Jason was saying, well, that's how it's supposed to be. Yeah. You know? And so that was, it was a rush and pretty cool, but nerve-wracking, but I handled it. So that was amazing.

Yeah. Is there anything special or any training, you know, that you did to prepare for that? Or are you kind of out there like, well, I'm nervous as shit. Let's just keep going and hope it works out. Well, I think you're always nervous. Even starting regular tournaments, you always have the butterflies. and I think that, I mean, I've worked with enough sports psychologists in my time because I like learning about the mind and making it your 15th club.

And you just, there's a favorite saying of mine is when success is when preparation meets opportunity. And I feel like that's kind of what happened. Yeah, because we had, I try to remember who it was. We interviewed somebody, one of the PGA tour players in the last couple months, who said that he's nervous on every single first tea. I am. I am because I think it's like, you want to be a lot of, to make a nice smooth swings in it down the fairway, but sometimes your rhythm gets really messed up

and you just, it doesn't, you know, sometimes you just don't know where it's going to go. And I feel like the first hole is like, okay, you get that under your belt, you get a good one, then it kind of settles everything. Right. So it doesn't matter how long you've been playing. I've been just my, almost my completion of my 23rd year being a professional on the LPJ, you still get the butterflies. How different is your game now and your approach to, you know, 23 years ago when you came out?

I mean, it's definitely changed. I've kind of grown up, and now I'm a mom of two, and got other business interests, but I'm still trying to win golf tournaments. You know, it's just I've got a lot going on. Yeah. I've got a lot going on. And my focus actually going forward for the next,

however long I'm going to play, before I endeavor to do other things, besides the wine business, charity business, and the Scotch business. Sounds like you already got a lot of things going on. is to get that killer instinct back. I think playing in Solheim, qualifying for the team this year, getting to play. It's one of my goals, obviously, and I think that's going to ignite a lot of that same stuff in me again.

Yeah, how much does that motivate you, the Solheim Cup? I mean, how in touch and communication are you with Julie Inkster about that? I'm in very amazing touch. Actually, one of our Solheim Cup team members, I don't know if she'll be able to play this year or not, Brittany Linscombe. Yeah. She had her baby yesterday. Two months early.

Preemie, she's stuck in Chicago. Oh, man. Because she was doing an outing. She had her baby doing an outing. No way. Everybody's so far healthy. Yeah, that's great. You know, pray for her and her husband, little little girl.

Congrats to them. But like, man, that's life. Oh, yeah. Life comes at you. You know, I mean, she was like right before the cutoff for her doctor saying she couldn't fly and then poof there's the baby so was some hero just delivered it like at a no no no they made it to a hospital like oh they were like no yeah here's guys like right right i got here i'm gonna hit a two iron oh she delivering up the sleeves all right here we go i'm ready

no no but you know wow i mean they were like they were like oh we just have cramps and this is this julie was there julie was there we're like okay you need to get to the hospital thank god thank god What's the best golf shot you ever hit? The best golf shot I ever hit? One that really sticks out or maybe most important. Oh, wow. I don't know if I can answer that intelligently. Hey, let's circle back to that.

I need to think about it. What was the worst golf shot you ever hit competition? One where you look back, you're like, that was just... I forget all those. That's smart. You do. I was going to say. She goes, no.

No. The worst golf shot? Yeah. Oh. I forget all this. You ever top one? You ever do anything like that? Yeah, actually, recently.

That might be the worst. Okay. That might be the worst. Where was that? Hmm. Probably. See, I telling you, drinking scotch makes you forget. That's kind of the goal.

It is the goal. Yeah, so it's doing clearly this stuff works. I plead the fifth. Okay. I like that. How far is your stock seven iron go? In the air, in this kind of climate in New York, probably off the ground, 153 yards.

Off a T, maybe 156, 157. If you're in the fairway on a par five, what distance, like what's the max distance you're comfortable? I can get there. I can land it on the grid. It depends on what's up there. I'm a Libra, by the way. You'll never get a straight answer out of me.

I can tell we're really kind of navigating and we're doing a little. There's a lot going on here. It's a dance. It's a dance. It's a dance. It depends on what's up there. That's like asking me what my favorite wine or my favorite child is. I can't tell you because I don't know.

I mean, I understand every shot's different. Yeah, I mean, if there's no trouble up there, anything. But if there's trouble, like water to carry or something, I would have to be able to carry it about 2.15 with my three wood. Okay. Who when you first came out, you know, you hear a lot about when people first get out on tour that somebody older, more experienced, acted as their mentor?

Who sort of acted as your mentor out there? You know, I always looked up to the great American golfers, and they always kind of, I wouldn't say, took me under their wing, but always kind of watched out for me, and that was Julie Inkster. It still is Julie Engster. Nancy Lopez, Betsy King, Beth Daniel, Meg Malin, Pat Bradley, Betsy King, everybody, you name it. Like, I really feel like they kind of knew.

what I was going to maybe become and they kind of steered me to be the right way. So that's been pretty cool. And what was that? Like steering you to be the right way? I mean, what changed? How, you know, what did you have to change when you were kind of young? Well, I feel like I was very, very, very, very brash and very, you know, I feel like I got that from my dad, honestly. And when you're young, you look up to your parents and you kind of are how they are a bit. And I feel like they've kind of taught me to let my clubs do the talking. And, you know, the rest takes care of itself. Do you ever fear of that? Like, you don't want to lose kind of your edge and your, hey, I'm coming out here, I'm going to be a wrecking ball. I'm going to be a badass. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I feel like I'm going through that right now.

I feel like a lot of the stuff off the golf course, albeit very positive, have kind of taken away from the focus a bit. And I wouldn't trade it for the world, right, because I have all these opportunities because of golf. But that's my focus is to really, really find that again. Find that like, I don't care if you hit it by me by 30 yards. I'm going to beat you kind of mentality. And that's what I'm working on. Yeah, golf, I mean, it's so unique, right, in that it's you really against, yeah, it's always, you always say against the golf course,

but also you against 150, you know, other women out there. Very talented women. Right. And you've got to find some way because everybody can hit the shots. Everybody's very good. Everybody's ball striking, putting, touch is fantastic. You got to find something that's like, no, at the end of the day, after 72 holes of golf, I'm going to beat you by one fucking stroke.

That's right. You've got to have that thing. And I've always had it. I feel like maybe since I've had my second child, I've softened a bit, but I won't soften in the Solheim Cup. I like that a lot. That's nice. So you're going to win anything. I'm going to drink whiskey on the 18th green.

Maybe. Spray that shit everywhere. There you go. In Scotland. So 2010, you get to number one in the world. Who did you consider that time kind of your biggest rival? I mean, I can't remember exactly like when Onica, and I'm working on like five hours of sleep, so forgive me.

Yeah. I can't exactly remember when Onica retired from the game, but I mean, geez, when I first came out on tour, there were like maybe 30 people that could win. Everybody can win now. Everybody on any given day can win. And, I mean, Lorena was always one that I looked up to. I mean, Yanni Singh.

Yanni Singh was very talented player in those years. Imi Azato. God, you name it. Kari Webb was, and is still around. Yeah. I had the blinders on in 2010, especially for that epic win. Like, it didn't matter if I was playing against PGA tour players. I feel like that week it would have been interesting.

Yeah, you were lights out. That's all that matter. It's crazy. The mode I was in. How many? You went by? 12. 12.

That's nuts. It was really funny. You'll enjoy the story. So the last day, we're like leading by 8. And so we're like, we need a new goal setting because if we go out there going, oh, I have an 8-shot lead. I'm going to win this tournament. We're going to lose. Right.

And so I said to my caddy Jason at the time, if I shoot 68 or better, you have to buy all the groceries for the U.S. Open because we're all staying in house and all that. And I said, if I shoot 66, you. or better, you've got to buy all the booze too. Wow. That's 66. That's awesome. Yeah.

He probably spent about two grand that week. Jeez. Good. He should have. He should have. Yeah, exactly. That's very relatable because a lot of times when I'm like, 25 over par of the 17T, I'll look at my buddy and be like, all right, if I make par here.

Yeah. You have to drive a little bit. Different numbers. Like you're down seven holes, but you press them with two to go. and you're just like, all right, this is a new. Can you guys pick up the glass and smell it for a quick second? And see if you can smell vanilla. Yes.

Baking spices. I'm getting vanilla and what was the one you just said? I'm definitely getting vanilla. Coconut dill baking spice. Yeah. That's from the toast from our. You're taking the words right out of my mouth. Shut up, Trent.

I don't know what the hell she's talking about. You should see their face right now, folks. What was the other one? Baking spices? You smell that, Trent? Like cardamon cinnamon. You can smell cardamont cinnamon. Are you kidding me?

Why are you pressing me? You didn't even know what that is, Trent. You don't know what cardamon cinnamon is. I know I don't. I was kidding. Explain what cardamon cinnamon is. You are getting really bad. Well, those are just an example, but I definitely smell.

Oh, it's not cardamon cinnamon? That brown sugar caramelized. I smell vanilla. I smell vanilla. Like that's from the oak. I'm just getting vanilla. It's like I got a bowl ice cream right here. I'm going to drunk just from smelling it.

Same. We'll just disappear if I keep smelling it. Right. Just up the nose. Right up the nose. No, I won't. Do you watch much golf? I do watch.

I do watch golf. How often? What do you like to watch? Obviously, the men's majors and the women's majors, and a lot of the time I'm playing, so I don't get to watch. But I always get to Hawaii on Saturday so I can watch Sunday the Masters. I make breakfast in the morning and have a day. Not a bad little thing to do there.

No. No, definitely not. That's a little routine you've been doing for. That's unbelievable. The last seven or eight years. Because it's a long flight. I mean, even from Phoenix, it's a six and a half hour flight. So if I fly on Sunday, I miss the whole thing.

Right. So what do you think about our boss man, Tiger Woods, coming back and winning? One of the best comebacks ever in all of sports. I grew up playing junior golf with him, actually. And he can be a little bit sarcastic when you see him. But I love to give him shit. What do you mean like that? He's just Tiger.

He's just, he likes to give you shit. You know, I saw him in a notice. to Begay tournament once he goes I said to him I haven't seen you a really long time Tiger one's the last time I saw you goes in the past and I'm like what he goes well if you ask a stupid question you'll get a stupid answer I'm like thanks Tiger wow yeah yeah but but like just talking talking like in a

complete sarcastic like playful tone not not like being mean or anything that's just tiger he's just funny are you taking anything from Tiger with with his reignition of the fire where he said like yeah I mean he seriously there's no reason he He should have ever, this is the amazing thing about Tiger. There's no reason he should have ever even tried to come back. Right. He's got so much money.

He's won so many tournaments. Like, what was the point, right? But he still had something to prove to himself. And that's what I love about Tiger is that he does it for himself. He does it for the right reasons for himself. He doesn't, he's never played for money, neither of I. And this is the reason I think everybody loves Tiger because he makes you feel like a winner. Yeah.

And he's winning in his 40s now and I'm like going to be. 42 in October and I'm like, I can do this again. Yeah. Yeah, you have to be able to take some inspiration from that. You have to. It was pretty amazing to watch. Yeah, and it is incredible. I mean, he, with all that, all that he has to go through him, he talks about the hours

of prep work he has to do just to be able to play golf. I mean, just to be able to play a round of golf. And he's done that now for years, a couple years to get back into shape, get his game, get his swing going. Yeah, I'm not working at at one o'clock in the morning like he is. He's a maniac. But I, even before I hit a ball, it takes me, whether it's doing my, exercises for my back or my shoulder or doing my dynamic warm-up stuff, stretching, getting into

my mental space. Like, it takes me an hour before I even hit a ball. That never, that never happened in my 20s. Right. Never. So maybe she'd just drink a shot of this. That's a loosening up. Yeah.

Yeah. That might be my new pre-round routine. I think it already is. A lot of Lachloman whiskey. I think you're right. I think that's been the pre-rines of a long time. So if, if somebody were to play around to golf with a PGA tour pro and an LPG Tour Pro.

Speaking of, that was my knee. Sorry. We heard a little crack there. That's fine. I mean, you know, that's just, I'm getting older too. We're all getting a little older. Play a round of golf with a PGA Tour Pro, LPGA Tour Pro.

Aside from just sheer distance, what is the biggest difference in the game that they would notice? Money. Fair. They make a lot more money than we do. But, I mean, besides distance, I really don't think there's a lot of difference. I mean, if you've ever seen Lydia,

a co-hit a flop shot in your life up there with the best on the PGA tour. Pudding, I'll put myself against anybody. Like short game, wedges, I'll put the Korean golfers on our tour up against any PGA tour player and I'll put money on that. Right. You know, so it's really just distance. Yeah, I'm very curious like that, you know, that year 2010 when you get to number one in the world or when you win by 12 shots, the women's a PGA.

Like, at that point, I mean, how, like, how good do you think your game? would have been at that point against anybody's on the planet male, female, anybody's. Well, that's the thing. I think we'll always be kind of handicapped, right, because we can't play necessarily unless you're Lexi long. You know, we would have to play from different T's. So I don't think anybody would really ever take it seriously. But I feel like that's really the only difference between the men and the women's game is distance.

I'd be fascinating to see if you did like an 80 yards and in tournament, you know? I don't know. That's a really good question. I mean, you speak of the men against the women and seeing how we would do. I mean, I played in many of the, when they had them, the Wendy's Three Tour Challenge, and we play against the PGA Tour and the senior tour. When I played it, we were, you know, we were on, I was on three winning teams. Right.

And we're hitting longer clubs into the par fives than they are. Right. We're hitting longer irons in the greens than they are. I mean, it's hard to set up the course for the distance to spare. I mean, because there's some people that hit it as far as Tony Fee now, and then some that hit it. you know, good distance, but as far as Kenny Perry, I mean, like... And I think it was last week, I believe second place was like 26 under bar or something crazy

like that out of the LPGA tournament. Like, I don't think people realize how good. Once the distance is out of play, I mean, they're going 26 under. Like the game of golf... We're not playing 5,000-yard courses. I mean, our courses are 6,500-7,000 yards. Right. That's what we play. We get toasted.

You know, they said at the Hazeltine tournament, we just played the KPMG women's PGA, like we played 69. hundred yards in very wet conditions and they played 7,900 yards in the Ryder Cup when they had it there last. And the comparison would have been if apples to apples for distance, how far each tour respectively hits it, they would have played like an 8,200-yard course. That's crazy. That's just absolutely crazy with trouble everywhere too.

Everywhere. You just can't miss certain spots. That's absolutely wild. Terrible, terrible rough. Just horrific rough. So the women's British Open coming up in the next month, how much do you have to kind of change or prepare for, you know, Link's golf?

Well, this year's at Woburn. So it's actually a Parkland course. So it's very much like the normal golf courses that we play all the time. The only factor would be the weather. Yeah. So normally, I mean, last year we played Royal Lhythm and St. Anne's one of my favorite personal golf courses. It's hard as hell. but there's bunkers everywhere,

but it's like a mental test, more than a physical test, almost. But Woburn is more Parkland style. So we get a little bit of a break as far as just having to pitch out and pitch out and pitch out of the bunkers this year. But there's so many great golf courses over there.

And Lachlom and Whiskeys is obviously the official spirit of the open. Whether it's at Woburn or Port Royal Port Rush, I wish I could play Royal Port Rush. It's on my bucket list. Yeah, we had Farity in here a couple days ago, and he was telling us all about it, and you could tell. I mean, we even had a stop movie. We can sense in your voice, like, how excited you are about this.

David's pretty amazing. He is genuinely funny. Hey, I got to meet Bill Murray this year. Oh, how was that? Our women's open. How was that? He said three things to me, and I cried every time he spoke. Because he was so funny.

What did he say? Can't repeat him? Just making jokes. Just making jokes. Like you're wearing that hat because you're a vinner, you're just wearing that hat because you like wine. And like... Sounds about right. Yeah.

That's my very horrible movie. What's your favorite British Open venue? Again, Libra. I happen to love Royal Berkdale. Okay. And I love royal rhythm in St. Ann's. Like, I really enjoy Lynx golf. I feel like that's kind of how golf should be.

Like so many different shots. Like, if you're going to hit a flop shot, you better make sure you know what you're doing off that hard pan stuff, you know, with the bounce on your wedges, or, you know, you can play with an eight iron or, I mean, I feel like the golf is so good over there. And the problem with me, though, is I hate wearing rain gear, so I get soaked every year I play over there. You just refuse to wear it. I wear the rain pants, and I'm like, I don't care if my top gets wet, it's fine.

I don't care. Just because it restricts you? You just don't feel right. Yeah. I just, I've never, you know, maybe it's because I'm a woman and I have other parts that men don't have, but they're hard to wear a rain jacket. Hard to wear a rain jacket, folks. Well, Christy Kerr, 20-time LPGA tour winner.

A couple, two major championships, one by 12 shots, not a big deal. Lachloman whiskey, which we've the Scotch. We've had a couple sips, and I think it's still kind of hanging around. We very much appreciate you coming in. Thank you. I thought you guys were going to be hard on me in this show. We're not hard on anybody. No.

It's a friendly show. You brought scotch. That's true. I'll just bribe you every time then. What are you supposed to roast you? I mean, you brought scotch. I can hang. Yeah.

Maybe next time. What do you want us to say? You want us to be mean to you? No. Hey, how about when you blew it 24 times and finished second? Right, exactly. A loser. A loser.

Anybody interested in the scotch? It'll be released later this summer on lock, lamanwhiskeys.com or our wine at cursellers.com. Love it. Christy Kerr, thank you very much.