Fore Play - Pacific Northwest Trip Recap (and special guest Dave Portnoy on the Pebble Beach mulligan challenge)

Episode Date: May 28, 2019

We toured golf in the pacific northwest, including two rounds at Chambers Bay, and lived to talk about it. We recap the entire trip, from playing Kevin Chappell's home course Aldarra with him to battling Chambers Bay and taking it DEEP at the Tacoma bars afterwards. Plus, we're joined by Dave Portnoy himself to get his side of the story on the 2019 mulligan challenge at Pebble Beach just weeks before the 2019 U.S. Open!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We are live from Boston, Massachusetts. We're at the hotel. It's just myself and Frankie Borelli, the Pizza Maker. It's an interesting show. It's going to be an incredibly unique show. Something you probably never heard before.

Trent and Daddy and I did shows alone for a year, a year plus. Then we added Frankie. this past weekend it was just Frankie and myself out in Seattle, Tacoma, played a bunch of golf courses, Chambers Bay, Aldera, home course, Gold Mountain. We're going to get into all of that. We've got an insane, an insane trip to kind of break down and go through all the details. We were there with Taser, Devin Taze, our boy Maddie, the caddies, Moses, Z. It was just, there's a lot to get to.

We got Dave, Dave Portnoy is on this show. We break down a little bit of the Mulligan challenge. We finally hear from Dave himself. So it's a wild. It's unique show. We're coming straight. We legit just left the garden, the TD Garden, from game one of the Stanley Cup finals,

where Frankie was filming. I'm obviously a big blues fan. I'm from St. Louis. Myself and YP. Blues lost. What was the final? 4-2? 4-2.

Riggs is talking fresh off a Nogi. You've been Nugied. It's the Nugie heard around the world. I actually feel. I don't even know how I'm sitting in the same room as you because I don't know how one person comes back from being nouged. Okay.

We're not going to talk that much hockey. I know we always do this. We're not going to talk hockey. But if we're going to talk hockey for a second, you got nouged tonight. But what people don't understand, anybody who's like, Rear Admiral from spitting chicklets,

was just chirping like, I don't know how Riggs comes to work tomorrow. That's like that, I wasn't in a situation where it's humiliating. He just cheap shot at me. Like, for anyone that doesn't, doesn't know what the hell we're talking about tonight at the blues brewins game one of the stanley cup finals the biggest stage in hockey at a sold-out t-d garden in boston 20,000 fans

maybe even more i don't know how much that fucking stadium holds it's a lot of they put dave port and i up on the jumbotron we knew it was coming i had my phone ready i aim it at the jumbotron you guys are on there for a second y p does his little shirt thing he's like oh look at my shirt dave does a little scream you're like let's go and then from the clouds Dave puts you in this choke cold noogie that I've never seen before. It is one of the most vicious, hardcore noggies that anyone can possibly put in. And he just rubbed your head like you were just a doll. I got nugied.

And you were flailed on your arms. You tried to hit Dave Portnoy in the face. You like punched up. I tried to punch him in the mouth. I closed fist tried to punch Dave in the face. Now, what people didn't understand is the guy gave us a little warning. Like, hey, you're going to be on the jumbo tron in like 30 seconds. So, like, great.

So obviously, I turned towards the camera guy. Dave's behind me. So I don't understand. Like, what was I supposed to do differently? I have to flail my shirt. You got attacked from the darkness of the night. I got attacked from behind. Yeah.

So anyone who's saying, like, oh, you've been humiliated like I went one-on-one with a guy and lost is a mora. I was blindsided from behind. I was chokehold no-gied on the Jumbodron at TD Garden in Boston while my blue lost is a bad night. But I also want to clarify that I just don't think I could have done anything differently. And my good friend YP, who's my only

teammate in this whole battle, right? It's he and I in the barstool world, the barstool sphere against everybody. We're against Dave, Fidelberg, Gaz, Marina, all you motherfuckers from Boston.

We're against all of you people. We're in Boston. There's a gigantic barstool following in Boston. So it's all of us, it's the two of us against all these clowns. And YP just stood behind Dave, like touching his hips and flexing and like dancing in front of camera.

Well, you got held like you were a prized fish at a fishing contest. Like Dave held you up and just nouged you around. And you flowed like a flounder. Like you were the prize winning on the, like when you go out on a, a fishing boat with all your friends and like oh who got the biggest fish Dave caught the biggest fish today.

Colley said I looked like a seagull that had been caught in a net. That's exactly. In a net. Like I was flailing and I was caught in a net. So it's a tough night. It's a tough night for rigs. I'm coming off one of the worst nights I've ever had. As a sports fan, that's as low as it can get.

You're built high. You're ready to win the Stanley Cup. You're in the enemy territory. And then you come and get Nugate. It's tough. It's not the way you want to go. But the only thing that can bring this back is recap. is recounting the best golf trip you can possibly have in America right now.

I really think that the Pacific Northwest is the most unique, unbelievable place to go, and we'll get to it. So let's recount our amazing life. And you know what, Frankie? That's an incredible point. I'm very glad you made that point. You're welcome. That as dark as things may seem right now,

as dark as it may be in Boston in our goddamn hotel room, we're here for another three nights. Wow, after just getting nougied on the jumbotron in front of 20,000 people. Nook you's such a bad word too. It's just so degrading. And then in front of the entire internet and then losing the game and having to walk out of the garden after being noogied on the internet and on the fucking Jumbotron. Life is good because we just played Chambers Bay twice. We played Aldera with our good friend Kevin Chappell, who's of course a PGA tour winner.

Great dude. We're going to talk all about that. Played home course. Played Gold Mountain. We got some funny stories. We got all kinds of good stuff to talk about. We also want to talk about Supreme Golf. Look, a couple courses we played out there, home course, Gold Mountain, these public tracks.

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talk. I know we did a little bit of it on the last show, but we have Dave on this show, who, of course, is the star of the Molligan Challenge. He breaks down, you know, the whole thing from his vantage point. He gives a ton of love to Pebble Beach. It talks about how special it was playing that course for the first time. So we're going to, that's coming in a few minutes. You're going to hear all of Dave. But then we went from Pebble straight to Seattle, where we landed. And upon landing, and upon landing, in Seattle. We went straight to Aldera, which is, I guess, like, 30 minutes straight east of Seattle. Now, I want to start by saying that our whole trip, our whole kind of the focal point, the beacon of the trip was Chambers Bay. We basically found out maybe two or three weeks ago that we were going to have Memorial Day weekend kind of a couple days to do whatever we wanted. And we were going to be in Pebble Beach beforehand. So we're going to be way out west. We floated a million different options. We thought about going to Big Cedar Lodge in Missouri, which I'm obviously a Missouri boy.

I've been to Big Cedar Lodge like 20 years ago with my family. They've really amped it up golf-wise since then. So we really thought about going there. We thought about going down to the Abaco Club, which is my favorite spot in the Bahamas. We floated a bunch of different ideas. Eventually you realized like, hey, we're going to be at Pebble. instead of flying all the way across the country, why don't we find somewhere out west that we'd love to go,

stay out there and play golf and film a bunch of videos, go to our YouTube page for the record, for Play Golf on YouTube. We filmed, I think since the last time we did a show, we've filmed seven videos. Yeah, we're doing this new style that I don't know if anyone's ever heard of it, but you can take videos on your phone. It's like a thing that comes on your phone,

and it's just got a camera. You can just, like, press a button and capture what's happening ahead of you. It's actually insane. I don't know how videos work. How does that work? To be honest, you, the fact that the iPhone camera, I think, might be the best camera on the plane. It captures color. It captures HD4K.

In what world? If I could try and buy a 4K camera, it's $10,000. Right? Like, in my head, I'm like, a 4K photo camera, $10,000. Then it says it's on my phone. A little peep behind the curtain here, like, we've done a bunch of videos, right? Where Barstool gives us a camera guy, a crew, maybe two or three people, a sound guy.

They've got these big like five to $8,000 handheld cameras that they lug around. They're big rigs. They're like, these guys have these things hooked up to their hips, like, so that their balance can stay out. And like you watch the final product, like what you're about to get to. And it kind of just like sucks. It stinks. It's okay. It's like really clear and it's like all this artistic viewing.

But like, listen, I just want to, when I watch a video, like, what I watch a video. and this is why I think Barstool videos do so well. I want it to be the void, like, it's like P-O-V almost, right? Like, you're looking through the vantage point as if you're there. Like, you're just, like, seeing what the person who's holding the camera is seeing. And when you get too artistic with, like, their crazy views, it's like, then it turns into, like, I don't know, NBC sports, like, featured, like, oh, let's go check out this amazing story. Like, no, we want to, like, show you, like, what it is to, like, go out and golf. Like, just anything with pizza reviews.

Like, that guy's just eating pizza on the street. Like, let's just turn on a camera real quick and do it. it makes it so much more relatable and these cameras fucking still look good it's insane so we've played seven rounds and i have seven rounds of golf on my phone right now just just eating up storage we took it we took every single shot that's like i mean for me it's like a hundred shots around right now the way i'm playing but like yeah it's like a hundred swings per person it's insane no joke i for all those listeners out there so frankie and i uh at chambers bay on sunday morning which we're going to get into,

we're going to go through that whole round. I filmed every single shot that Frankie took. And you're right. I mean, that's probably around 100 shot. Yeah. And I film them all with context, right? So I film before your shot,

you talking through your shot, after your reaction. Like, I have hundreds of videos on my phone of you playing golf, and you have the same of me because I took nearly that many. at Chambers Bay.

So we have basically committed to realizing that if we just have a camera guy with a really fancy camera following us, play golf, it doesn't come off as genuine, it just doesn't have the same vibe. Now, Jake, we've added this new guy, Will, who we're going to talk about in the future as well. We're building a whole team out here at Foreplay. But those guys are going to be involved. They're obviously going to be there filming. However, what we did at Chambers Bay and what we did at Altaxie. Dara, which we're going to post both of those videos where we filmed every single shot that the two of us took, I think is significantly more compelling because there's commentary.

There's me chirping behind the camera and Frankie's got a wedge. There's Frankie chirping me on the camera when I'm out there hitting a drive 30 yards short of him. Like all of this footage, I think is infinitely better. We both think is infinitely better when it comes from an iPhone. So we've invented this brand new thing where you film. what you're doing, you kind of log video form what you're doing and then upload it to YouTube

vlog, you could call it a vlog maybe I was gonna goff term for vlog and I almost said Glog but I don't know what that is You say Glog? Yeah, isn't that like a sexual term? Glog sounds like you're sucking dick Yeah, a guy glog on that dick

Yeah, Glogged like Glog. That guy had a huge dick and I clogged it. It's the noise That's what that's up. I got logged. I mean, we don't need to get there, man. We don't need to get there, man. We don't need to get there. I don't know. We're such a dark weird.

We just turned into Caller Daddy. We just turned into Collar Daddy. We can't be talking about the Glog-G-Glogs. But yeah, we have these videos. We're going to put them on YouTube. They're going to be awesome. I mean, Riggs doing the drone and everything like being in between. I do.

I draw my dick off. We're going to get better at it, too. This is just like step one. Like, we're just figuring it out. We just started doing this. Like, it's a grind. now because you don't know the best way to do it. We're holding up people on these golf courses. We're like, we're the slowest group out there. It's insane. I can't tell you how much of a

grind that is. We must play a six hour round of golf because I hit one way right. Riggs hits one way left. I got to go run to Riggs. My caddy's like, you're over here. I'm like, I understand that over there, caddy. But I got to go over here and film this guy hit a golf shot so that people on YouTube can watch it one day. Like they're like, what are you fucking talking about? On top of that, I fucking mid-round yesterday at Chambers Bay just ran out of storage of my phone. It's crazy. I have like 64 gigs on my phone and I just ran out of the story. So I'm trying to film Frankie. I've been filming him for

a good hour and a half straight, 50 shots of golf and then all of a sudden I go to film just he's like putting on the green from 10 feet, which I have to capture. He's kind of lining up the pot. He's laughing. He's going to the camera. There's no way I make this. All the boys, the caddies, Moses, Zach, Casey, all of our boys.

They're all laughing. And then my phone just says, you can no longer do this storage full would you like to manage so i'm fucking on the course i'm running around up a hill down a hill my legs are gone i'm exhausted i slept for two hours and i're because we're out drinking all night with moses who is our caddy who's the fucking man and all of a sudden my phone runs out of storage so i'm like deleting videos as i'm trying to film videos so we're new to it it's a grind that's the bottom line it's a grind so when you do watch these just have that in the back of your head though we are out there grinding it looks like we're having fun

because we're playing all the best golf courses in the world, which we are. I'm not going to lie to you. You're listening to this right now? I am not going to be humble about that. I think I'm playing the best fucking golf courses in the world. Now I'm hacking them away. So if that makes you mad, I like that. I'm glad that makes you mad. But

watch the videos to watch a guy who doesn't know how to hit a wedge, try and hit one over a 45-foot bunker at Aldera. Like, it's pretty cool to do shit like that, because I would want to watch that. It's awesome. So we're going to get to all that stuff. Just be patient with us, and we're going to have our awesome video team just edit up these great videos and if nobody if i'm sorry if anybody out

there has a better idea or suggestions or help what do they call the what do we want to do the gimbal we want to do the gimbal we want to do a gimbal where we attach it to our phone so that it doesn't make it so shaky right because if you watch these videos on like big screens and it may pick up every single fucking bounce right because you're holding so we're going to get better at that too that that will make it significantly better i know that completely agree we got to get now there's always a fine line right like we don't want to overproduce because we're barstool. Like if we overproduce, it loses a lot of its color,

a lot of its personality, a lot of kind of a charm that comes with it. At the same time, I mean, we've had people messages that are like, I have to vomit while watching your videos because they're shaking so much. So we don't want that.

So we're working on it. It's a work in progress. We're trying to become better. We're trying to produce more video. And we're adding to our YouTube page. YouTube is this awesome thing that people were starting to learn about, video platform. We can categorize all of our stuff there. We've posted, we got over 100,000 views on all of, on myself, Trent Daddy, Frankie, and Lurch playing all 18 holes of Betpage Black.

We're going to have more of those. We filmed every single shot from us playing Aldera, every single shot from Frankie and I playing Chambers Bay. A little bit of a spoiler. We got fucking our asses kicked after sleeping for two and a half hours. We were drinking all night. We'll get to that because that, I mean, that needs some context because that was, it's crazy that I even was able to swing the golf. It was something special.

We also filmed every single shot from the four, three of us and our boy Eric. Shout out to E.J. Playing nine holes at Glen Oaks where they hosted the Northern Trust a couple years ago in the morning, the Sunday morning of. PGA championship week. We snuck out, played a little golf. So we're putting more videos out of us playing golf. We understand that people, all of you listeners, very much enjoy us playing golf, the commentary, the chirping, the betting, all that shit.

We've filmed a ton of it. We probably have 10 videos in the queue right now. 10 videos, I guess we have in the queue. So all that stuff's coming. We're going to break down the entire trip. First, we're going to hit a couple headlines. Kevin Nah, who we had on this very show, maybe two months ago, three months ago, third win on the PGA tour. think it's his third way i gotta tell you i have to tell you we've been so plugged out right a lot of

people say you're plugged in we've been plugged out yeah someone yanked my cord out real quick i haven't been plugged in i'm running on empty man your cord was ripped out in the fashion i've been running on you know like when your iPhone goes to uh yellow and you're running on low batter so everything kind of like you don't get updates unless you don't get like push notifications things don't load in the back in the background when you're in yellow that's what i've been doing the past two or three days and now I'm in dark red. I'm at like 8% and I'm looking for a charging station right now and I can't find

when I'm in the middle of the woods and I'm like my phone's going to die in seven minutes. Does anybody have a portable? Does anybody have a charger or anything? Can I sign in on your phone? Can I do something I need to connect to the world? And I just can't because I'm not good at this man. Before I started Barrelli's restaurant, nice little place on Long Island, 64 years.

And I used to work at 64? Yes, yeah, 1965. We're going to have to do a nice big party. um can i come it's 60 right 1955 that's 64 years you better hope your math's right yeah i if you think we did not have you just explained your charger thing that i'm in a position where i can do that math you're a second yeah 64 years so if you're off like 20 years it's gonna be laugh no it's not so what's the year it's 95 yeah 64 years yeah yeah so my schedule used to be i used to go to work at four o'clock and i was actually telling you this on the trip like we get the calculator It's 64 years.

We haven't celebrated 65 year yet. So I used to work at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. And then I'd just like, I'd go to sleep at like 3 a.m. I'd play like NHL every night. And I'd play golf video games. And I'd play like call duty and shit. And I'd go to bed. And then I'd wake up at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

And I'd barely make my shift at Borrellas. And then I'd close down. I just had a different lifestyle. And then I start working up Barcelona. And everything's like early and quick. And we got to go and we got to travel. And then like you have trips like this where even when you're having a lot of, having fun and golfing, we're still waking up at 5.30 a.m. and making 6 o'clock tea times

and traveling. So it's like, we're fucking running I empty. But it's awesome. I wouldn't trade it for the world. 64 years I did the- Unbelievable math by me. So people have to realize that. We don't know what the fuck happened, but you just know he won. I mean, I don't. People do have to realize that. That we booked this trip so last minute that the only tea times they could really get us out at at Chambers Bay at home course. We'd see it off and I think 640 and 640 and 6. 50 back-to-back days, which we're also, you know, when we do a vacation weekend, like Memorial Day weekend, we like to drink. So like when you're out drinking and then you have a 640 or 650 time, it's an absolute

battle. Now, we're not going to bitch. We're not going to bitch. We're not here to bitch. Kevin Noggetts's third win on tour colonial. And what I'm seeing here, that's next. Tony Fee now finished in second. Are you fucking me?

How did I miss that? So I have to, admittedly, I have to admit that I didn't see a single shot from the colonial event. Tony Fienow finished in second. However. Holy shit. What I did see, well, I was on my goddamn six-hour flight from Seattle to Boston. Last night, our little kind of late night, red eye, whatever we want to call it,

was that Tony Fienow, people were tweeting up a goddamn storm about Tony Fienow. I didn't get one tweet. Now, one person tweeted me that Tony Fiener came in second. I was pretty sure they did. You just didn't see it. Oh, shit. Frankie. Kevin Knath, 13 under.

Tony Fienow, 9 under, second place. Andrew Putnam, C.T. Pan, Jonas Blixed. That rounds out top five. Jordan Spath. Tide for eighth. Jordan Spath was, see, we did see a little bit. We watched it in the clubhouse a little bit. Jordan Spath was making a little bit of a run on.

Oh, yeah, you're right. Jordan Spath was making a little run on Friday, I guess it was. He was moving up the ranks. All the days blend together. He was, when we started watching, he was on he was five under and then all of a sudden he was eight under and then all of a sudden we were at like gold mountain in which like they had all his stuff on the walls we'll get to that i mean jordan spath was just everywhere in our in our brains this weekend so tiger woods is also

i'm pretty much going rapid fire through the headlines because i know people really want to get to this recap the trip recap also before we go on from kevin now he gifted a 73 challenger to his caddy kenny yeah unreal now that we start to uh learn more about caddies and we get to meet more caddies. Shout out. I want to shout out Kisner's caddy. What the hell is his name? Dewey.

Duie. Shout out Dewey. Unbelievable dude. Doey is the fucking man. Guys like Dewey getting 73 challengers, which I don't know if Kisner gives Dewey 73 challenges. Kisner gave Dewey a car. He gave him a truck when he won,

not the match play, but like a year or two ago when he won. See, that's amazing. So that's all, like, that just shows like that side of these golfers who obviously make a ton of money doing what they do. and they like to hook up their caddies who allow them to do what they do because they're their like addition to their brain and they help them get through these rounds.

That's awesome to just give your boy a challenger and he's probably like into old cars and shit like you know that that made that guy's life. Made his whole entire fucking life. So we're ripping through some of these headlines. Awesome move by Kevin Nuh. Also have to mention that Tiger Woods is playing the memorial this week. Tiger was also at Pebble a day after us. And I can, a day is a stretch.

He was there five minutes after us. We, of course, played Pebble Beach on Wednesday. Tiger Woods was there Thursday morning at like 7.30 in the morning. We left at about 7 a.m. to drive up to San Francisco to get the hell out of town to go to Seattle. The minute that we left, we get a video of Tiger Woods walking down the third fucking hole at Pebble Beach. Horrifying. Pretty devastating to miss that. Like, unbelievably devastating.

Tiger probably stayed because we stayed at an absolute mansion, which we described. in great detail on the last show, maybe two minutes away from the course. There's no way Tiger Woods doesn't stay right in that area. So he probably slept right next to us, played golf on the same course that we played, and we just didn't see it. I remember asking our caddy at Pebble Beach, like, oh, like, does Tiger ever come out here and just whip it around? Like, does he come out like you would at August or something? Like, he has an off weekend.

He wants to go out to California, play Pebble Beach. Like, maybe he just likes the golf course. He's like, no, we never see Tiger out here. I was like, well, the U.S. Open's coming up. I literally said to him, like, do you think he's going to take a spin up? around like he did at Beth Pay. I had this conversation with a caddy. I'm like,

do you think he'll take a spin around here like he did at Beth Page the week before everyone else showed up? And he's like, no, he usually just don't see that here at Pebble. He's like, the guys usually show up that Monday and like that's it. And then like the next,

like that is the most wrong that caddy's ever been because the next day, Tiger Woods was just whipping it around the golf course, like in the midst of like, can you be more wrong? Like Tiger Woods was like the 7 a.m. T time and like some Joe Schmoe had like the 640 tea time and may have like held Tiger up. Like,

history with caddies. Yeah. Is that the most wrong a caddies ever been? Like now my question is, what I just said correct? Like, does Tiger just play

amongst the public in those, in those scenarios? I know he didn't, I know he didn't at Beth page. Like, the course has already closed? Like,

has the course been closed? Like, when we went to a media day? You think they book him as like Tim Williams? I know. I don't know. Yeah,

it's got to be closed, right? Like, they definitely, we're a couple weeks out. Here comes, oh, the 705 is Tim Williams. And then he shows up to the front desk and the like name please he's like Tim and they're just looking at him

side I'd like I know that's not that's not he goes no it no no you're just tiger woods like I'm looking at then they have a situation it's like well I can't like assume he's just Tiger Woods because that would be like I don't know that's like frowned upon like I'm just going to be like no you are it's like no like what if I just look like him it's true like you don't want to be you don't want to go like hey man you're not Tim Williams like you're what if he's just like yes I am you're tiger and then Tim goes up there and stripes a missile on number one and you're just looking at him from the club

I'm like I fucking know it's not Tim Williams Tim Williams he goes no no I'm gonna play the backtees yeah and then he just rips a two iron down the middle and you're like well I mean that's fucking that's not you see the head cover Frank and shit it's like I know it's not Tim Williams it's just says woods

on the fucking on the bag so Tiger fucking plays pebble minutes minutes watching him walk down the hole that I made an 11 on that day or whatever I made was actually more crazy than like seeing him at Bethpage because we had just played that hole. We just played that whole.

I knew everything about it. I knew what it looked like. I had just been there less than 24 hours ago. And then we watched a video of him just doing the same thing. Tiger Woods also is now the fifth ranked player in the world. Somehow with him not playing. I believe it's because J.T. Justin Thomas, who we had on this very show, the first show of 2019.

We did an hour-long interview with Justin Thomas. great guy, very good interview, a lot of good, funny, interesting stories, answers, all that. You should go check it out. Also did an entire show one time with Kevin Nah a couple months ago, so go check all those things out. But J.T. hasn't played since the Masters because he has, I believe, a wrist injury. He's playing for the first time since that injury this week at the Memorial. But since he's been out, he hasn't racked up any points. Tigers been able to jump ahead of him.

went from sixth to fifth. So Tiger Woods is now officially in the top five of the official world golf rankings for anyone out there who has said over the last five, six, seven, eight years. Tiger Woods doesn't have what it takes. Tiger Woods can't compete with the top golfers. Well, he has won the fucking masters and he is now ranked ahead of a bunch of guys that you thought he couldn't be ranked ahead of. In fact, he's ranked ahead of every golfer on the planet except for four people. So those of you that said, that's a body of work. That's not like he just struck lightning, caught lightning in a bottle, whatever you want to say at the Masters.

That is a body of work that it takes to get back to top five in the world. Tiger Woods is the fifth ranked player on the planet. He's grouped this week with our good friend, Bryson D. Shambo, who gave Frankie Borelli a chipping lesson at the PGA Championship. him not two weeks ago that he did that? I think consider he's he's my boy, Bryson D. Chambot at this point. As he should be.

I think he's my boy. You guys have come a long way. I think he's so much my boy that I'm still able to like rag on him. Like he's one of like he's become what he did with me at Beth Page made me feel so much like he was one of my good friends that now like I can shit on him even more because I know he can take it. And I know that he's in the mix. It's a sign of endearment that you're able to bitch.

on him. Right. Like, I'm still, like, I'm going to give it to Bryce and he'll probably give it back to me, but, like, we know deep inside that he is a good dude. He's a genuinely good dude who cares about winning golf tournaments, because when we watched him hitting the ball at a driving range Wednesday and Thursday, even after he played, like, constantly just working on his game. Like, that just shows, I just have so much respect for that guy. Him playing with Tiger is insane. Like, us, when we talk to Robbie Mac, like, that was insane. When you weren't there, you were at the media center, Robbie Mac gave me a golf ball, which I know. longer. Why are you going to bring that up? Because I don't even own the ball anymore, so it's a bad moment for me. Some little kid owns me. You probably flush that fucking ball down a toilet or something. Who knows where that goes to? You know, do you realize that I'm slowly trying to convince everyone that I was there for this moment?

Yeah, like I did with Derek Cudor's return. It doesn't work, man. In five years on a podcast, you're going to fucking... I've just been telling people the boss man's story like I was there. So, like, when we got to talk to Robbie Mac, like, it's like, holy shit, that dude talks to Tiger Woods. And then like now I'm feeling the same way with Bryson. Like man, I could DM like or message the guy

who's going to play with Tiger Woods at the U.S. Open. Like that's so fucking insane. Tigers becoming more and more of a real person as a podcast. This is at the memorial. I'm talking about. Sorry, the memorial. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Wow, I can't believe there's another tournament in between right now. The fact, look, our brains are on such

another planet. I can't believe he's even playing the memorial. This is insane. Well, I tweeted out that he tried the major's only thing. It just didn't work. I was so fucking ready for him to only play in the majors that I'm actually disappointed that he's playing the memorial. I mean,

yes or no. Do you think had he not missed the, if he didn't miss the cut, he'd be playing the memorial? I think the memorial is such a staple for him and he does, he makes these comments a lot that these types of

tourneys where they pay homage to, they pay homage to, they pay respects to the greats of the game. He plays Bay Hittley, plays the Arnold Palmer Invitational. He plays the Memorial. He plays

like Jack Nicholas's tournament. Those things mean a lot to Tiger. So I do think it would have been very, very difficult, very unlikely for Tiger to have missed it. Now, having said that, he did legitimately just withdraw from

the from Bay Hill. and played the players championship. He claimed he had the neck issues and all that. He literally just did it. Compulsive lie. He just wanted to be more fresh for the players. And then the Masters, which he won.

So nobody would doubt him. So long answer short, 50-50 shot. Like maybe if he had like a top five finish at the PGA, I don't know that he's playing the Memorial. Yeah, I don't think so. That's the vibe I get immediately. I don't know that he's playing the Memorial. No.

He might just. just be so committed to playing major championships that I really don't know. But he is a group with Bryson DeCambeau and Justin Rose. Rose is kind of an enigma, to be honest with you. He won at Torrey Pines early in the year. He's the number one ranked player in the world at the time. He essentially told me to get the fuck out of the way when I saw him. Have we told that story?

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Kind of a tall dude. He's a sneaky tall. He's a big guy. Looks like a cat. I've always said this. He looks like a smug little cat. A little fucking pussycat. His face looks like one of those cats from those fucking Disney shows, the arrestechats. He looks like he's in their wristicats.

It's just that high cheekbone, small mouth, little tiny nose cat. Anyway, I saw this cat walking towards me and I, like, made a left turn. Oh, I'm sorry, I went to the right, because always when you're walking, it's like you're driving, right, you go to the right. Everyone passes on the right. It's what you do. It's amazing that we get into so many awkward situations in this world. People pass on the left for the record.

Yeah, where? Well, if you're on, like, a highway, you pass the way. Oh, but no, but I'm talking, like, oncoming traffic. I wasn't passing someone, like, right? Like, you go to the right, like, in America, you always. go forward on the right. Am I wrong? Well, no, you would go.

If you're going to pass somebody, you go left. He's coming towards me and I'm going towards him. I'm not like passing someone walking in my lane. Oh, you know what I'm saying? We're driving down the road. Like he's coming towards me. Fair, fair point. You confused me because you said passing and I thought you're one of those dumb ass drivers

who thinks you're supposed to just hang out on the left lane and everyone's supposed to pass you on the right lane, which would be wrong. You're saying if oncoming traffic, you're not going to pass them on the left. Correct. You have to go by them on the right. Correct. So I go to the right and... Justin Rose, the cat, is oncoming traffic. Well, he, you know what I'm actually thinking? Isn't he, I mean, where he's from, don't they go to the left?

Yeah. So we both saw... Wait. Yeah. Yeah. So we both saw each other walking and we're like, we're going to do what feels natural. And I'm going to, and I said, I'm going to move to the right. And he said, I'm going to move to the left. And what happened was we both moved at the same time.

And then we looked at each other. And then we both tried to get out of each other's way. And we moved to the left. And his right. right and we were still in each other's way to the point where he looked at me and now this was like if i sometimes we say oh it's two seconds three seconds this was a legitimate five full seconds like one mississippi two mississippi three five seconds four mississippi this whole things going on and we're like look at each other slowly moving to the point where he goes come on

on and shoes me out of the way and i like oh shit i like look back at him like holy fuck like this guy just come on me and i was in you guys saw my face you like What happened? You guys thought I saw a tiger. Well, you said I got, come on by Justin. I was, we asked you, we go, well, did he like jokingly or friendly, like, come on? Like, come on.

Like, come on. Like, come on. Or did he, like, come on. Like, come on. Like, like, with a hand motion. Like, get out of here. Like, come on. Like, I was like a little, like, gnat, like, flying around his face.

He's like, ah, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Someone. Like, come on. Figure it out.

It was a figure it out. It was like, figure it to fuck out and get out of my way. way that's what the come on was from just don't ross just and rose probably remembers that come on he goes come on the shit out of me so yeah justin rose whatever we have that little history now i don't even know why i said that you saw you brought up justin rose well he come on to you at the pga i don't know if we ever told anybody that we didn't tell anyone that so tiger woods justin rose that's why and bryson d shambo we're playing together the memorial this week excited to see tiger's game he obviously there's you know he was sick he didn't play a practice round on Wednesday he'd even

touch the golf course on Wednesday that was the first time he played competitive golf since winning the Masters so it's kind of like is he in great shape because he's he won the Masters is he in bad shape because he missed the cut after not playing golf for a month and being sick like nobody really knows it's kind of a question mark I assume he'll be fine I have no real qualms with it bottom line is like anytime Tiger Woods is favoring not playing golf I'm actually fine because that means he's not getting hurt which is great. So that's enough for headlines. Seattle, Tacoma, it was our first time out there.

It was our first time that Frankie or I had ever been to the Pacific Northwest in our entire lives. Yeah, the most west I had ever gone was Colorado. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yep. Even with three years at Barcelona, we never go out west. We just don't go out west.

No. That's really not something that we do. I think the only times I had ever been out west is I've been to Pebble a few times. I've never been in. anywhere else in California. I've been to Pebble, but it's basically a guy fly to a bubble and then leap

because I just have gone to Pebble, played a little golf, and then left. Pacific Northwest, always, always, always, somewhere I wanted to hit. Vancouver, Seattle, Tacoma, Chambers Bay. That area looks beautiful. I love mountains.

I love the tall trees. I love different, like just looking and seeing different type of scenery. So I wanted to get out there forever. We basically, and again, touched on this the beginning of the show, but we essentially figured out maybe five days before we arrived that this is what we wanted to do. So we kind of frantically hit different people up.

Shout to my guy, B.R., the folks over at Kemper Sports, who helped get us tea times. Big shout out to Lindsay at Chambers Bay, who helped get us tea times there. Big shout out to Kevin Chappell, who took us out to Aldera. And really, we kind of pieced together an awesome itinerary for the three and a half days that we were in Seattle, Tacoma. they got us hotel rooms all that really took care of us we land in Seattle on Thursday afternoon first stop we get the rental car we don't go to the hotel

we go straight to Aldera we get changed in the airport Seattle Airport Frankie and I legit we grabbed coffees Frankie got maybe the most preposterous coffee I'm not a coffee drinker I'll explain this one because I know you're going to probably it looks like a root bear float. It's a milkshake, right? I'm a child and I don't drink coffee.

That's what I do. I don't have any hair on my face and I don't drink coffee. Like, I just don't do like manly get up and drink my coffee and my mug. I know. What are you going to say it like that? Trent, people just drink cups. Trent steal.

Trent, by the way, he's not here so he can't stick over himself. Trent is a fucking thief. And Trent steals coffee mugs from hotels. Thank God he's not on this trip because he'd steal everything in this fucking room. What of the great character variation? or deviations of all time that Trent Ryan of Shitter Rapids Iowa

steals coffee he'll take he'll just he'll take your coffee mug right in your face so I don't do that and and when I I'm starting to slowly like drink things that have um caffeine caffeine and I'm seeing I know it is in coffee sounds like you need something with caffeine so I don't

so I drink this like I use you drink more coffee I drink an ice caramel macchiato it's probably going to give me a heart attack. Like it's, it's probably the worst thing for you. It probably just fills up all the goo probably just fills up your heart because it's just the most sugary, ridiculous thing you could possibly drink. But it tastes good and it's got like three shots of like espresso in it.

So, and I'm getting there. But I will admit that when I get it off the table and they call my name, it just looks like a big cup of milk. It looks like a big cup of milk that they don't stir. I don't know why they don't stir it. Because all you got to do is stir it. Well, they don't stir it because the presentation they think presentation looks ridiculous. It's perfect for like. a basic bitch. He's going to be obsessed with that order.

I am obsessed. I'm obsessed. Like, I take snaps of it. And I change the filters to make it look even more bright. So come at me. So, yeah, we got changed in the airport, and then we went straight to Aldera, which I had no idea what the fuck was going on.

Like, you knew a little bit more about it. Like, you're, like, I know we had talked to Kevin Chappell on the podcast. I didn't really know much about him. And you're just like, we're going here. And we're like, going to go see Kevin Chappell. I'm like, okay. Like, let's just go do it.

And Frankie touches on something that's always interesting when you go on a golf, which is kind of the constant struggle or debate between like do you research and look up every inch and aspect of the course you're about to play? Because with the internet now, everybody has a website, there's images, there's flyovers, there's fucking course reviews, all kinds of shit. Or do you go in blind? And it's a very, very difficult decision because you get so amped up. I know exactly what you all do out there. You're sitting in your cube, sitting in the office, or you get home from work. and you finally get an hour to kill on your computer, your phone.

You're like, you know what? I'm going on a trip in two weeks or a week next weekend. I'm going to look up that fucking golf course. I'm going to go through the flyover. I want to see hole one, hole two, hole three, hole four. I want to look up the strategy, the yardage. I want to be ready to rock. And then another part of you thinks, like, you know what?

I want to go in blind. Like walking up to a golf hole that you have no idea where it's going to be or putting out on hole three, jumping back in your cart, and then rolling over to hole four. and having no idea what it's going to be is awesome, right? There's an element of surprise in the world of golf when you play a new course that is fucking awesome. So I always debate that. I debated that before I went to St. Andrews, before I went to, like, Bannon, and before this trip.

And I decided before this trip to basically do the minimal amount of research. I decided to do basically nothing. Now, I did put out a tweet of like, hey, we're going to Seattle. We're going to Tacoma. where should we play? Our good friend Kevin Chappell. We came in contact. Obviously, like,

kids and Chappi are really, really good buddies. We had Chappell on the show a couple months ago. He's recovering from non-fusion back surgery, which we chirped him about. Kind of an idiot. How the fuck could you have back surgery and not do the fusion

when you're watching what Tiger Woods have been doing for the last two years with the fusion? So we chirped him about that. We had a great podcast with him again, not to plug all of our podcasts. already plugged nah already plugged j t gonna plug kevin chapel he's fucking hilarious he's a really really good dude he's uh he's got a house in seattle aldera's his home track out there where he plays a ton of golf he practices he's just now getting to the point where like he's close to practicing and starting to

play again a little bit but he was like boys come out i'll get you guys drinks i'll get you guys sandwiches i'll host you i'll ride along in the cart and chirp with you and it was a surreal experience. This place was immaculately kept. Greens, perfect rough, perfect bunkers, perfect tea boxes. Couldn't be more well kept. Felt like you're teeing off on a goddamn carpet from heaven every single time. The views, there's like mountains.

It was 75 degrees and sunny as the sun was setting. We played like a twilight round. It was spectacular. And it was the first time that either one of us had ever played golf in the Pacific Northwest. I've been to Bannon. I guess you could count Bannon in that, but in the Seattle, Tacoma area, it was the first time either one of us has ever played golf there.

And Aldera Golf Club was one of the most spectacular courses I've ever played in my entire life. There was no one in front of us, no one behind us. We played this track. We had a great little match. We filmed every shot. I will say I started. I think I doubled the first hole, part of the second hole.

tripled the third hole and then parted the fourth hole and I was up like a hundred bucks on Kevin Chambl because of the bets that I was doing with them. You guys are doing crazy bets like hitting the green regulations, putts, everything. Like it was really fun to watch and also pretty, pretty nerve-wracking just even watching like some of the things that you were like agreeing to. Like, okay, yeah. Like I'll take this three to one hundred dollar bet like always like trying to get back even. It was crazy.

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Highline Wellness.com today and see what you have been missing. I got to say, I didn't really know what was going on on most of those bets. He's a fuck. Kevin Chappell. First of all, my first experience ever meeting him. Awesome dude. Unreal vibe to him. Like, wearing shorts and like a thin sweatshirt, like running around this unbelievably, like, exquisite and probably like super secretive and like top notch golf course.

And he's like just walking around like he owns a place because I think he does. And like everyone just like loves him and he's waving everyone and everyone knows it. Not to suck Jable's dick, but like half the DMs I got about our Seattle trip. We're like, oh, you should get out to Aldera. You might see Kevin Chappel on the range. Yeah, that's what I mean. He practices out there a lot. If you're lucky, you'll run into Kevin Chappell.

He was waiting for us in a golf cart with two transfusions when we pulled up. So to those people, yeah, we saw Kevin Chappell. Yeah. No, we did. We saw Kevin Chappell. Also, shout to our guy, Andy, who played with us, played the front nine with us. What a beauty that guy was. It's so cool.

He shot the coolest, easiest, most effortless, even par front nine. I've ever seen him my entire life. Best driver of the golf I've ever played with. That's a fact. He absolutely drilled the ball down the middle every single time with a smooth swing and he was sick around the green. And he just like laughed it off.

He had huge calves and short. And he was wearing shorts. He had huge calves. Massive calves. He was very, very built low, like, like his, the bottom of his body was just built very like wide. Like he had just like a tree house.

Yeah, he was like a tree house. He was a par making machine tree house. Not tall dude, so that means he was a little short, and you just drilled the ball. You're trying to find mean ways to call him short. No, I just tried to find a nice way. I'm sorry. You're trying to have sugar code calling him. Correct.

He was a little shorter. Because I'm trying to paint the picture of a guy who's a short who has the big calves, and I think everyone knows what that guy looks like, and he just drills the ball further than you can imagine. So you picture what that guy looks like, and then picture a guy who hits a ball like Dustin Johnson. It's insane. Never seen anything like it. It was also surreal that, like, Frankie and I are two idiots, right? And we're out there, like, hacking it up, trying to break 80, 90, whatever it is.

And Kevin Chappell's rolling with us. Andy had to depart after nine. And we roll up to, like, the 10th T. Kevin Chappell, he buzzes out there with us. He's like, all right, boys, it's just down, like, the left center. I'm going to run in and grab your drinks. What do you guys want? We're like, no, we can go in and get him.

He's like, no, no, it's cool. And then he runs in and grabs us drinks. He's like a servant for us. Guys are a fucking Beijing door winner. And he's like, help us out. He beat Brooks Kepka, right? He beat Brooks Kats. He made a birdie on the 70-second hole to win a PGA tour event,

and that birdie made him beat Brooks Kepka by one stroke. Like the Brooks Kepka that I can't imagine anyone beats him for the rest of his life the way he played golf at Beth Page. I cannot picture someone ever beating Brooks Kepka. People keep asking me. Who do you like at Peeble? Brooks Kepka. It has to be Brooks Kepka.

Like, look, he hits a further. to death. If Tiger asked me, I would suck Tiger was his dick. And I'm a very heterosexual male. I'm a biggest tiger guy in the world, okay? It's tough. Yeah, I know. Well, I mean, I'm serious. I know. I know. What do you want me to say? I don't know. And my point, the reason I brought that up is because

I don't know how you don't pick Brooks Cup good to win at Pebble Beach. The guy's unstoppable. It drives the ball dead straight. He drives in a mile. He puts like Ben fucking Crenshaw in his prime. He's got the touch. His touch, it's like he's chipping and putting on clouds the way this guy's short game works. His irons are dead straight, unbelievably accurate.

His yard is even Tiger Woods himself in his post-round presser at the Masters said, well, Brooks Kevka flights the ball better than I do so. If he hit his nine iron in the water on 12, I knew I had to take a line more to the left. like he's just he's brooks fucking kefka so i again as one who would probably suck tigers dick if he asked me to if that helped him win golf tournaments i don't know how brooks kebka isn't going to win the u.s hope he's going to win everything in sight and our boy

kevin chappell beat him so that's just the type of guy that we played golf oh that that watch just play golf at his home golf course so aldera was spectacular unbelievable views it was like it was actually our only time that we ever throughout the whole entire weekend and like saw the mountain type of like background because the other days were a little more cloudy and rainy and like just like misty and over overcast. This day was perfect. The sun was blaring.

There was their shots. And in this video that you're going to see on YouTube, there's like, it's like one of those blood skies where like it's blood red and like the clouds and the mountains. I was taking like, I was facetiming people. I was like taking videos of myself in front of like these mountains

and sending them to like my parents. It was an unbelievable. golf course with outrageous views. I couldn't believe Kevin Chappell gets to call that place home. It was kind of a surreal round, to be honest with you, because of, like, the different stages that are around went through and how casual it was. Like, anybody out there listening, right? Like, you're all familiar with getting the rare chance to play, like, a really private,

exclusive club, and you're always, anytime you do it, you usually have, like, days to build up to it, right? You, like, you like mark your golf balls the night before. You go through, you clean your clubs. Like, you're fired up. And you really, when you get out there, right, you're like nervous that you're stepping on blades of grass. You're not supposed to step on. You're walking on eggshells.

Everyone feels that. You're hitting a chip shot that you're not supposed to hit or something like that. You're always just like, I'm not supposed to be here. I don't belong. And our experience at that type of club was Kevin Chappell in like a hoodie and shorts, bringing us drinks, chilling with us to the point where, like, Frankie stepped away for half a hole in FaceTime. Like Kevin Chappell face timed his agent at one point. It was like chatting that up with his agent.

I'm like how literally I was teeing up a shot. I'd been playing pretty well at that point. I'm like, I'm going to drill this thing right next to the hole. And I turn around. I'm like, and I hear Kevin Chappell just like FaceTime with someone. I'm like, when's the last time you talked to that person? Seven and a half years ago? Because you're now taught.

What kind of information is getting passed upon two people for more than 10 minutes? Like what haven't they talked about? like are you explaining your entire life to this person like for a 10 minute based on to the point where i'm like kevin you got shut the fuck up back there and he's like all right frankie's about to hit a shot and then i shanked and he's like oh frankie like good thing i think it was quiet like he's just chirping us it was awesome so cool to to experience a pro like that and and i think he's going to be like our boy for life now kevin chap like i just felt like that like that's the type of guy that he is 100% and and again getting that Like that type of relationship and connection with a guy like Jappy who's coming back from injury,

who's won on the PGA tour, he was on the President's Cup team out at Liberty National. He's an unbelievably good player. Great dude. And him like hosting us, speaking for us, speaking on behalf. A couple times, like pulling me out of a bunker and like taking swings and being like this is what he did that like two or three different times. Yeah. And like unprovoked like, dude, like this is what you're doing. Like work on this.

You're not going to get it right away like talking to me like not even on camera. just like pep talking me being like dude your swings right there like you just got to do this got to do that little things will help you he's like this is what you got to do and it's it's really really really cool to see how instinctual that stuff is for those guys like he just like frankie said it wasn't on camera he didn't know anybody's filming or half the time we weren't that like frankie or or myself would hit a horrible shock because we're average weekend hackers or a shot that didn't feel right And he would just grab us to be like, hey, like, how did that feel? Think of it.

And for 30 or 45 seconds, like, grind us through a quick little lesson about, like, hey, it should look and feel like this. This is where the clubhead should be. You should really think about that. Like, he totally, to be honest, he totally changed my bunker game. For anybody who doesn't remember, I was a couple shows ago bitching about how I've developed a situation where I just blade every bunker shot. I'm in greenside bunkers, and I'm just blading them out over the green. happened at Pebble Beach. We're at Pebble Beach.

I wasn't in a bunker all day until one of our last holes of the day, and I just started blading shots over the green. I couldn't get the ball out of the bunker in the way that it's supposed to be. Been a good bunker player my whole life. Kevin Chappell came over after my first attempt, and he goes, hey, you're hitting way behind the ball, aren't you? And I was like, what? I thought I was.

Like, I've been blading every shot. So my focus has been to hit more behind the ball. And he goes, yeah, that's exactly your problem. You dumbass. He goes, you have the... been blading bunker shots. So you told yourself in your head to hit behind the ball. So now you're hitting like three inches behind the ball.

And your club, because the balance works like that, is hitting so far behind the ball, it's been bouncing up into the ball and blading it over the green. He's like, you come in a little bit steeper, open the face, and hit like an inch behind the ball instead of three inches behind the ball. Oh, bunker game fixed. He's doing the same kind of stuff with Frankie. Just an all, all around really good dude.

Can't explain you how cool it is to tour around and all, all world, classy, phenomenally kept beautiful golf course like Aldera with Kevin Chapel. We have the whole video coming out. We have multiple videos. We did a Riggs verse there where Frankie and I played the eighth hole. And then we also filmed with our iPhones, which we described earlier in great detail, pretty much every shot that we hit the entire round.

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the next evening. Gold Mountain is a public track. Jordan Spief won a golf tournament there. What he win? Like the junior amateur there, I believe. That was where he met Michael Greller. There's like a shrine. It almost looks like Jordan Spath died.

Yeah, it's a little too much. Too much going on. not gold mount with Jordan Spath. Like, that's too good of a golf course and too great of, like, a property. I know they have two golf courses there. Too big to just, like, devoted all to Jordan Spath. Like, I know that he won there and whatever, and he's a great golfer now. Come on.

It looks like, the way they've done it, it looks like before you two out. Every room you walk into. You're supposed to, like, get down on one knee and do, like, the shoulder, shoulder, forehead tap. They got Grollers, a bib that says speed down it and signed by Jordan. and then they got like a like a huge scorecard that someone from like ancient egypt wrote the scores in it's like an unbelievably perfectly like hieroglyphic numbered like who the fuck wrote those numbers in i wish we took a picture they treat it like jordan spay gave his life in battle to make sure gold mountain could still uh host tea times every day i'm telling you there's a scorecard with the numbers for each hole and it was written with like a feather pen that was dipped in ink it's crazy i never seen anything like it but yeah let's get into Gold Mountain because that was that was a fucking hell of a golf course for

for being so public. So Gold Mountain public track. Our boy Devon Taze, Devon Tays. You were doing that a lot. I'm glad he brought that up. Devon. You were talking, the guy's not French. You realize that's how he introduced himself. He did not. He goes, I'm Devon. It's not Devon. It's not

Devon. And you said it so much this weekend and I didn't correct you because I wanted him to call you out, but he never did because he's just too nice of a guy. It's not Devon. It's Devon. It's like the most normal. I would rather say it. But he's not normal. Like, all right. It's Devin or Devin. It's Devin. It's Devin or Devon. He calls himself

Devon. Yeah, I like to say Devon. You were saying Devoon. Like, you had like peanut butter. Okay, he's Canadian. Well, yeah, he doesn't say Devin, right? He's from BC. He's from BC. He goes, Yeah, my name's Devon, okay? Like, like Canadian shit. He's not French. Like, if you want to talk about Islanders, he's not Anthony Bavillier being like, my name is Devon. Like, like, it says. Sounds like you got just say Devin. It's Devon.

Why is it DeVon? That's just how he says his name. That's just how he says his name. If you're Canadian and you don't say Devin right, then I would just assume it's Devo. You put so much English on it at one point. Coming from the guy who churches everything else. There will be a video, I guess, from Gold Mountain or so. I don't know where we took it, but you were behind it and you're like, we have DeVon, Dave.

And I, like, looked at you. Like, are you fucking getting me? This guy's not like on the French kid. Like the French team. Like, he's not on the All-France team. But, yes, we did have Devon Taves out at Gold Mountain. This happened very last minute. We had him and his buddy Maddie.

Shout out, Maddie. Maddie was my teammate all weekend. Phenomenal, dude. So, Devon Taves, for anyone that doesn't know, you should know. He's on the New York Islanders defenseman, rookie D-Man, to the point where he's so good to the point where I think that the New York Islands are going to build their defensive core around Taze. He is that good. He is an unbelievably. skilled D man who just

concentrates on being a defenseman, doesn't care about the offensive stuff, and then they just throw them on power. I think someone mentioned it. I think it was Maddie where he's the least known PP1 QB in the entire league. Yeah, I think that's right. He absolutely dominates the power play on a team that like

fucking killed it this year. Like was out like the Islanders had a fucking great year. They're one of the best stories in league and Devon Taves was out there like rocking up minutes for the Islanders. So yeah, he's a great player even better dude we uh we had a we had a little mix up in our like in our plans um i know you had a couple buddies that were supposed to come lurch was like in the mix i was supposed to come out to um this trip and it's tough to get out to the pacific northwest right and i've been talking to

taser which i'm like i just call him taser we call him taser because we're buddies of them well taser's the biggest no-brainer nickname we all time it's it's divan it's taser and then it's laser that's his his uh his fortnight name i refuse to call him laser his name's laser I call him laser a lot. I mean, if you call him laser, you're kind of a loser. Well, that's just a little thing that we got going on. You're going to call him laser. Well, like, his name's laser.

You're as a grown man, I'm going to call another grown man a laser. His name's laser. As is you're going to do that? It's laser or taser. I haven't gotten to, I called him taser in front of you because I knew that laser was a little too much. But to him, like, texting or whatever, I'll be like laser. I'll be like laser. You text him, hey, laser, what's up?

I beg laser, when are we hitting the battle bus? You say that to him? Yeah, I've written that many. With a straight face, you text that. With a straight face. I'll even send a straight face emoji to him. Is that the most emasculating thing you've ever done? Maybe getting Nugget is the most emasculating thing that's ever been.

That was uncontrollable. That was a uncontrollable that he called himself. You're not being, everyone has, you're not getting cheap shot when you call another grown up. Who knows how PlayStation Gamer tags come about? My name's Frank the Tank. You think I look like a tank? No, you think he's a laser?

No. Does he call you Tank? He called me Tank a couple times. Hey, Tank? No, he doesn't call me, hey, Tank. Why you call him a laser? We're not like, we don't have a little like relationship like like nickname gooey-goo stuff. I just sometimes laser comes out.

That's just because that's what I see on the screen. Anyway, great shot, laser. Devonte. Yeah, he hits lasers by the way. He kills the golf. So it is a fucking name. I got to say, Taser the laser kills the golf. Tazer the laser, unreal, unreal name.

I mean, why are we calling him that? The guy drops bombs on the blue line and on the T-Ills the golf. Devontees lives in, uh, B.C. He lives around the Vancouver area. And we'd been talking about golfing a lot. So I hit him up when we had an open spot. And I'm like, you should come down. It's only three-hour drive.

Like, you should come to. Actually, he texted me being like, I think he was like trying to like bust my balls when I'm like, dude, I'm going out to play Chambers Bay. And he's like, oh, only three-hour drive for me. And at that time, we had a full four people. And I'm like, oh, yeah, like, you fucking wish. And then like a couple days later, I'm like, you know what, dude? Like, we have a fucking spot open or you want to do it. And he's like, I'm in.

And then he was kind of saying, like, I want to come for just Saturday. whatever and then another spot open I'm like bring a buddy he's like all right I'm in for the whole weekend because I thought like that would make it easier for him for sure like coming down like I like I've known him but like he doesn't know you and he didn't know the whole thing so it's like coming down with a buddy awesome we actually it was a grind for them I think he was like working out in the morning on sat on uh what was it Friday morning and he's like right we're gonna just hit the road it's three and a half hours we'll hit the road and we'll play like a 430 tea town on on Friday we'll meet you at gold mountain um turns out that they hit like ridiculous memorial day

traffic. They're taking ferries. They're grinding their way to the golf course. Five hour trip. The three and a half hour trip turned into a five and a half hour trip. So shout to those boys for absolutely grinding to make a tea time. I think they were only like 25 minutes late, which was fine. Because Gold Mountain in, I don't even know what fucking town this was in. This was in just like the sticks of. It was somehow, it was northwest of Tacoma. apparently like the way he described it is like where this golf course was was like in the middle of two bodies of water so the only way he could get there it was ferry he said if he went around took the fucking whatever way we took it would take an extra two hours so it was a grind but we got there and gold mountain couldn't have been more accommodating to us like just being a little later like they're like no no problem like we like big fans of the podcast like you guys do so taser and mattie they run from their car to the first tee box no practice swings first time ever seeing them, like on a golf course, first time they're ever meeting you, like, unreal, like, first T jitters.

I know that they were feeling them because, like, you just, like, you don't start a golf trip and, like, meet guys that you're meeting for the first time and, like, play a golf course you never played and, like, not feel that nervousness. Like, you don't want to duck hook one. You don't want to. It's more telling than a job interview. 100%. It's, this is, like, we're about to play 72 holes with each other.

Right. And you are going to see right in this moment, everything that. I'm made of. Right. Can I drive the ball? Can I hit the ball? Do I have the stones? Am I a pussy?

Like, what am I made of? You're about to find all that out in one half a second golf swing? And the worst part was that they were both our teammates. So I was teammates with Devon and you were teammates with Maddie because we did lefties righties. Yep. So Devon is a lefty. Taser is a lefty. Don't call him Devon.

Don't not call him Devon. Oh, Leaser. Maddie. Yeah, call him laser. Maddie is a righty. So you guys match up. Lefties are better, so we just, that's just what we did. They're just better to look at.

I think you can agree. Lefty swing is just better to look at. It is. I mean, you're really going to try to get into debate about that? What are you talking about? I think a lefty swing just looks better. You guys just look the same. You're just on the wrong side of the golf ball.

We said it when Phil McIntyrevee. You're just on the wrong side of the wall. We said this FF page when we were behind Phil Mickelson. We're like, this swing just looks better. Who said that? We did as a group. I didn't say that. Well, we did.

I said his swing looks good because, yeah, he's the top 10. player of all time. It just looks, it looks different. It looks, it's coming from a different angle. It's got a little bit more pizzazz. It's got a little more soft. So you and the laser were lefties. You guys played together. So their first T, first time ever seeing them hit. Absolutely both piped one off the first T. It was actually so intimidating. Straight out of the car, they both just ripped them. So did we. Yeah, yeah. We all just ripped them. We had four balls in the fairway. And from then on, it was just an unbelievable round. I think that they, they acclimated to like our little world so well like we started pulling out the phone and started doing videos and like they knew what it was

about and you always like struggle with like is this guy going to be okay with it he's a professional athlete like is he going to be like all like you know what like i don't really want to be on camera but like they couldn't have like and you never know till you know right like right almost nobody is just like naturally accustomed to what we do which is pretty much everything that we do is on camera we film it we make fun of it we make fun of each other and these guys Devon Yeah, Taser The Laser

And Maddie, you're right They just like Seamously were totally into it Right out of the gate Gold Mountain was spectacular It was different It was unlike any course That ever played before

And that it was carved into the tall trees Out in kind of the Pacific Northwest Tolesest Trees in the world And they all look like skinny Thousand-foot-tall Christmas trees Like it just like goes from like Big on the bottom

To really thin on top but not that much going on. And then the whole entire trunk is just left alone. There's nothing coming off the trunk. So you look up at these trees and you hurt your neck looking up so high. And for half of it, it's just a trunk. I've never seen anything like it. It's crazy.

It was spectacular. And it was like, it was like, frankly saying. It was just like for two guys that live and spend so much of our time in the Northeast, it was unlike any topography that we're familiar with. I think that you have to go up into like Northern Maine to get into that kind of topography. That's like the closest you can get. Even we played we played Aldera the day before and like we noticed it a little bit.

And like obviously the mountains in the background, but this at Gold Mountain was just like a thousand percent different for some reason. It was I don't know. I guess at Aldera the trees weren't like part of the golf course, which actually shout out to Kevin Chappell. I don't want to throw the guy into the bus too much. On the first tee he said, and this will be in the video that we made, said that you guys are going to love this course because trees just don't come into play

and it was the biggest lie ever told in humanity because he said it's not a tree line course he goes it's not a tree line course and i must have hit the trees a thousand times i guess that's just a pro talking like yeah if you don't if you don't stripe the ball down the fairway you're not gonna the tree's not gonna be in play but i was like but chappy i'm going by that logic like no course for him is a tree line course because every course is just wide open because you're fucking press roll for you every shot yeah he's like you shouldn't hit a tree here i'm i laughed at him i'm like, but I will. So that, and that actually proves that this is a tree line course because I will line the golf

course with the trees that I'm hitting. So, yeah, so that's, we didn't, I guess the difference between Aldera and Gold Mountains that this golf course went through the trees. And Aldera, I guess, avoided them to Kevin Chappell. Yeah, no, I think that's right. I mean, especially like the back night in Aldera was, was significantly more wide open. It was more on top of the hills. So you had more kind of like vistas and valley type views with the mountains.

and all that kind of stuff where high tea boxes in the fucking trees it was the topography every hole kind of winded and was carved through the trees you'd have an uphill tee shot and then you'd get up to where your

cheese shot land you'd have like a downhill approach that looked like it was a black diamond from a ski slope that wove through the trees you were a good golfer which I guess we weren't we're not at this level like you could have shaped golf balls like amongst the trees and it would follow like you see some of these like viral

instagram videos of these golfers like you see those like low like liners that they'll just go around the trees and you're like where the fuck is that guy hitting that ball and like this is that type of golf course where it's like it it's a it's a bowling alley worth of just trees and it just goes and goes it's nuts it was it was really cool and again for guys like us that are i'm from missouri i've spent most of my adult life in the northeast frankies from long island like It was unlike anything I'd ever seen before playing this course, the Gold Mountain. We play the Olympic course, and it's open to the public. So I strong recommend for your itinerary.

We filmed a couple of videos, which we'll put out. Frankie and Taser kicked our ass that round. You guys dusted us? I think it was over in the 13th all. I think you guys beat us like 6 and 5. Six and 5. Yeah, I think it was a trouncing right out of the gate. Handicaps are pretty close

I was playing to a 6 You and Devon Devon We're playing to 10s And Mattie was playing to a 12 Yep So handicaps were all pretty close We got killed that round

Then we go back to Tacoma We get a quick bite deep We go to sleep the next morning We have 36 holes Home course The home course in the morning Chambers Bay in the afternoon The home course was

a very interesting and kind of unexpected deviation from the previous two courses that we played and that the home course was basically wide open and lynxie. I mean, you could almost spray the golf ball. We kind of just described two courses where there's like tree line, unless you're Kevin Chappell and blind. They're tree lined, kind of carved woven into the Pacific Northwest, really tall trees.

at the home course was like wide open they even had like a bunch of pot bunker looking bunkering and it was a fucking lynx course there was like yellow gorse bushes it was it was incredibly different it played firm and fast and it was awesome it was cold i have to say that riggsie weather 640 tea time we were freezing 640 tea time we were freezing we showed up we're at the home course never we had no idea where the hell we were going like we we we we thought we were going to be driving up to a golf course with just a bunch of homes in it. It's the home course. So on our drive-in, we're like, oh, look at all these homes. I bet you I'm going to hit a thousand of them. And then we get to the first tee and there's just no homes. There's just an open-links course. Wasn't a home on the course.

There was maybe one home on the entire course and it was behind the tee box. So, I mean, the home course may need a different name or I guess we're expecting it to be a home-filled course, and this is just the home course, which I guess I think is a pretty cool name. Like, oh, I'm going to the home course. It's everyone's home course. Full disclosure, I was very confused because the guy who helped us book the trip was like, yeah, you guys are going to play Chambers Bay, Gold Mountain, and Home Course.

And I just thought he meant like, my home course. Correct. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know what that is. Yeah, which course is that? Can you give me a fucking name for your home course? Yeah. Because anybody else, that's just like very common term in the golf world where you say my home course.

So he kept saying home course. And I was like, why does this guy keep dropping mine? It's like, uh, why does it keep saying home court? There's a restaurant. I think it's in Long Island. Yeah, I think it's Long Island. And it's called your mother's kitchen. So it's like, where are we going at your mother's kitchen?

It's like, oh, okay. Oh, I thought we were going out of the dinner. No, no, we are going out of the dinner. We're going to your mother's kitchen. That reminds me of like when people would be like, oh, who's, like who sings the song. They'd be like, the who. Right. Exactly.

Who? It's like who's on first. Wait, no. The who? Exactly. Yeah. Is it Evan Kestell? So who?

Do it all that long. Yeah. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. So that's what the home course was. Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed the home course, probably not as much as the others because I just didn't. Actually, I played okay. I just didn't have a good front nine.

We were so fucking tired. And when you're that tired, you just can't swing. I mean, I can't. I'm just not an athlete, so I can't get up. I need three or four hours to wake up. I need, like, water on me. I need to, like, fucking get slapped in the face to, like, actually, like, be awake and like we just stepped up to the tea at 6.50 in the morning and just had to hit a

golf ball at like 50 degree weather and I just can't do that. I can't do it. I don't have it in me. I don't have it in me. Look, home course was was a battle. It was fucking cold. Your bodies weren't warmed up yet. I will say that was the best round I played the whole entire trip. I broke 80, which felt great. I think that's the first time in like months that I broke an 80. So that that part felt good. You know, I will say that compared to the other two courses that we had played prior to this. Home course was solid. It was fun.

It played Lynxie, which is wildly unique. It was easier. The 17th hole was spectacular. Like the view on the green, you could see the water. Even I think it's the second hole from the fairway. You get a couple water views. So there's some really cool aspects to it. And again, if you're kind of like a lynx golf junkie, I could see you're really loving

the place. But I would say that of all of the courses that we hit on the entire trip, I just didn't think it was as unique as the other ones. It was in a tough, like, the home course caught a tough, like, break because we played some unbelievable courses before and after it. So looking back on it now, it's like, shit, like, well, what are you going to compare it to, fucking Chambers Bay? And, you know what I mean?

And Aldera. Right, like, you can't. Like, the home course is a good home course for people that live around that area. It's a very solid lynxie golf course. And if you are in the area, you should play it. And I would say that, right? Like if, if, like, we don't have a public option in New York that's for the value and the accessibility and how close it is. We really don't have an option that even compares.

Like, if we had something like the home course in the New York area that was 15, 20 minutes away from where we live, I would play there every weekend. I probably belong there. Right. The place is awesome. Yeah, it was really cool. But when you're doing like a trip like we did with. with four different courses and whatnot. You know, it's kind of hard.

And it just got a really tough draw of cards. Like it was cold. It was 6.40 in the morning. We were hungover and we were playing Chambers Bay in a couple hours. So like it definitely got itself a tough draw. I thought it was awesome. I enjoyed every minute of it. I posted a bunch of fantastic pictures from the course.

We're going to have another awesome video from it. So home course was great. You threw the drone up there and I will say. I don't think me or Taser brought this up, but I think it was on the 18th hole, and I think the match came down to the 18th hole, right? Yep. And Taser was in it.

I was out of it, and we needed him to really do something. And you flew that fucking... You flew that fucking drone right over Taser's head as he was hitting the most important chip shot of the day. That's what you did. Look, this is what Rigsie Dron does, and he's probably cracking up listening to this, because he wouldn't think that I brought this up,

but all of a sudden he's ready to... a chip and all of a sudden you hear like a swarm of bees in our ear and we're like where the fuck is that thing coming from and we look up and we thought that you were doing it on purpose to the point where there's a whole golf course out there the golf courses are huge people golf courses are seven and a half eight miles long because i walked them since beth page we've been walking i got to show you my health at i used to take 3,000 steps a day i was at an unhealthy pace i think you're supposed to hit 10,000 we've been walking 26 000 steps every single day since beth page we walked the fucking golf course at Bethpage

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Then we had one day off and then we walked fucking Pebble Beach, 36 holes and then we walked every other golf course. It's been insane how much we've been walking. So we have, I know exactly how long a golf course is and it's eight miles. And Riggs decided on the biggest trip of the day that he was going to fly a swarm of bees over Devon's head. Not to your knowledge, I guess,

because you were on the other side. I had no idea. He just left this thing above him. And he, like, chunked one. And he just looked at me. He's like, well, he's like, I was rattled. Like, we were just a little rattled. We guys are blaming that chip on the drone. We're not going to blame it on it.

We're just saying that, like, of all the places to park that thing. Of all the places. It's so loud when it's that low. I'm trying to capture content. I know you are. And I'm happy that you did because everyone's going to see how cool of a background that was at that place. But it was just a funny little thing. I don't blame it because we were.

We dropped the 17th hole We dropped the 18th hole We lost we could have won that fucking match We had a lead with like four holes to go And we lost so it's not the reason It was just a funny little thing that like When people look at this drone footage Sometimes just know that Riggs uses it to advantage

During a match I gotta say it makes me feel terrible It's okay I mean I didn't know Yeah no I mean it's just what how you look back at that drone footage I want you to look straight down At the end I hope to see Taze just chipping

There is on that footage. Video of Taser, chunk it away. It probably will be. There probably will be. I feel terrible. No, that's okay. We lost a match, so you guys brought it back even. Frankie had a big pot, like a 10-12-footer on 18 to have the match.

He had a phenomenal putt. And it just burned the edge. Yeah. Yeah, it was tough. It was tough. I missed that put. It was just tough. So finally we get it back to even.

We're playing 36 this day. This is Saturday. Next up's Chambers Bay. We obviously, this was going into the whole thing. This was the highlight of the trip. This was kind of the bucket list. You got to do Chambers. Lindsay, our girl out at Chambers Bay, who runs a lot of their digital marketing.

Yep. Had brought us out there. She's awesome. She took care of us. We walked in, like, we walked in not really knowing, like, who the hell we were going to speak to. like we just knew that we were showing up the chambers bay there's these like shuttles that take you everywhere like do we take the shuttle do we walk in this room like we walked in and lindsay's just like there with open arms and being like thank god you guys are here i couldn't wait for you guys

to get here wait until you see what we have in store for you and we're like holy shit like what a welcoming like let's go like we're ready to rock they had coins which i've still got in my bag but here we go engraved rigs on mine they engraved butter knives on frankies tough thing to get handed from lindsay like right when i walk in the door she's like well well Welcome. Welcome to Chambers Bay. Isn't this like the place you always wanted to go? Here's a little coin to talk about how bad your chipping is. Oh, thanks.

Thank you. In her defense, you literally had butter knives stamped on your wedges. Yeah, to remind me to what I've over. So, like, the reason why I have butter knives stamped on my 52 and 58 is because when I do overcome them, I'll always remember what I overcame. And also, when I start hitting them smooth, I'll just call them butter. Like I hit them as smooth as butter. That's smart. Like I hand me my butter and I just watch me cut this thing nice.

You don't. I'll never get to that point. So that's a little inside to like my brain on what I want to start doing. So Chambers Bay, I want to start by saying this, right? Like we all play golf courses and you all know what I'm talking about. Like 95% of the courses we play are pretty much cut from the same cloth. There's a couple trees. They're pretty flat.

They got a little bit of a dog leg left here, a little bit of a dog. dog leg right there. Public tracks, they're all pretty much the same golf course. You get the same vibe. And if you go play a nice private club, they'll be nicer, right? They'll be more well kept. They're still kind of tree lined. You've got to hit a dog leg left here. You've got to hit a dog leg right

there. There's a couple bunkers on the, there's one bunker on the left, one bunker on the right. Everybody knows exactly what I'm talking about. A lot of golf courses just feel like, again, they're kind of like cookie cutter golf courses. You get the same thing. When you walk on to the property at Chambers Bay, you instantly know that you are in for something different immediately. The color, the bunkering, the topography, the location, the vibe. Everything about it is just, holy shit, we are at something serious.

They hosted the U.S. Open in 2015. Jordan Speeth won it. Dustin Johnson finished second. Rory was in the mix. Brandon Grace was in the mix. Louis Euse Tazam was in the mix Like these legends of the game These legends of this era

Played this golf course In as meaningful of a golf tournament As you can play They played this track It was epic And again When you arrive you just immediately Can sense it

You can see it The actual terrain Looks like you're playing golf On fucking Mars It's crazy It's a different color Than you've ever seen before You have this

What is it called Puget's sound. Yep. You have the Puget Sound just out there and, and, and like, these islands of, like, trees are out in the distance. And, like, it honestly feels like you're, I don't know how to explain it. Yeah, you're on Mars or, or you're, like, in middle earth, like, something, you've, like,

entered another world. Like, you walk around this, this corner to get to, to, like, to get to, like, the, like, the pro shop and you look out. And, like, you're on top of the golf course just looking out at all 18 holes. Like, in what world do you. see all 18 holes in one like look out like you can just never you can just see all 18 holes just right

there bang you don't have to turn your head left or right you just see it and you're trying to piece together in your head how they go together right right because like frangy's saying any any other golf course all the ones I just described like you can pretty much only see the first hole or maybe the 18th hole or the 18th or the first 18th and like

10th tibov maybe and on at chambers you can see the entire golf course from that perch up at the pro shop when you sign in, when you pay, when you like get your scorecard for the first time, you can see the entire property and you look over and you're like,

what the fuck is that dude? What goes in between that? Is that a river? Is that a hole? It's insanely intimidating. And I knew again going in that like it plays lynxie. It rolls the ball. You can land at 20, 30 yards right or left on some holes

and it'll funnel all the way to the middle of green and all that stuff, which I've, I'm notoriously. a bigger fan of like wacky crazy golf than almost anybody else. I love it. I think that's for me what makes golf interesting and unique. Anytime you can get to a golf course,

that's just unlike anything else you've ever seen before, any hole that you get to, any chip shop that you get to or bump and run or whatever. To me, that's like what keeps it interesting. Like how many times can you stand up there from 145, out and have a nine iron a pitching wedge in your hand and just hit it to like a green luscious green and have it stop right where it lands versus going to a place like chambers bay and having them say to you okay it's 155 flag if you land this 137 it'll catch a hill bump left

catch another slope and roll into this bowl within 20 feet or if you fly it 172 that's a little bit too far. It'll catch a back bunk. You have an impossible chip. So that's kind of your range. Like, that type of stuff to me is just what makes golf kind of keep your brain activated

and think like, holy shit. We were able to experience something in the world of golf, despite having played hundreds of rounds that I've never experienced before. And you get that on the very first hole at Chambers Bay. They have a really cool area like the putting green.

the little kind of welcoming snack hut. They haven't finished the clubhouse. They're building a brand new clubhouse, a bunch of villas and all that. But right now they got this little snack hut. You rolled out of the first tee. We had our boy Moses and Casey on the bag. The first round, we ended up going out with them all night afterwards. No, Moses and Davis.

I'm sorry, Moses and Davis. Day Day day. We had Casey and Zach in the second round, the next day. so Moses I mean we can't go on about talking about Moses without describing what Moses looked like Moses looked like Maui from Moana my one of my favorite movies

I've talked about that often on this podcast you and Trent despise Moana you think you talk down I've talked about bad of a story like you talk down on one of the greatest if not the greatest animated movie from Disney of all time and Moses is this like six foot seven

no maybe not six or seven but he's like a six foot five football play playing college collegiate football player and he looks like fucking the rock in in moana like the animated cartoon he looks like Maui with this curly black hair like he just came from like a tribe great looking dude like intimidatingly good looking and total stud total stud like and put his hair in a ponytail if he wants to he said he was a plus one handicapped the guy just told himself to play golf like 10 years ago played football in minnesota played football in minnesota do you on football unbelievable guy great fucking personality then we had day day on our bag davis the guy was caddying for us

and then like driving up to um uh abetsford or or victoria canada and he was going to play in a qualifying tournament because he's trying to make it in the golf world he's an unbelievable golfer as well he had a great personality he was lindsay's brother like it was a whole family thing like lindsay knew obviously her brother and then she knew uh maui fucking uh moses i mean his name was moses It's pretty intense if you have a name. If you name your son of Moses, you better hope he looks like Moses, like what Moses ended up looking like, and he did.

Like, you can't name yourself Moses and then have a kid look like me. Like, you know how much pressures on that? Like, imagine my name was... If your name was Moses, people would... Upon meeting you, Frank, would laugh in your face. I think that I would ruin Moses. I would ruin religion, right? Like, people wouldn't follow, like, anything that Moses is related...

Like, like... Anything that Moses is related to the religion? You would ruin the entire religious complex of the planet. Correct. They'd be like, oh, that's what... what Moses, that's like what is depicted of Moses. Is this little, this little like female looking male

that like thinks he can like have a golf swing off the tee, which he does and then anything else he tries to hit the ball yet literally can't can't hit it more than seven yards. So like yeah, I mean Moses ended up looking like Moses. Shout out to his fucking parents for nailing that one. The guy's unreal. But yeah, I mean, these

guys were great. Just right knowing, just right off the beginning and having a handshake with them like Moses like broke by fingers. Did you feel his fucking handshake? Crush my hand. Maddie and... How fuck is I supposed to get a chip the rest of that?

We shook his hand and we're like, holy fuck. Like, Moses is going to be a handful out there. And God, was he awesome. He was awesome. So was Davis. So we get out there, right on the first hole. I mean, there is a dune taller than 30 men to your right. And then on the left of the green and the entire hole in one at Chambers Bay,

it falls off like 30 yards. So it's like, okay, if I spray one right, I'm in this gigantic dune that I'll never get out of. If I pull one left, I'm going to be staring up like I'm climbing Mount Fawken Everest trying to hit my second or third shot. You find out right away how intense things get. You know, we obviously started to ease our way through the round. Each and every hole that you play presents another spectacular, crazy. I think the best word to describe the whole place is crazy, which to me, again, I think is a, is. is a really positive and awesome way to describe a golf course because how many courses have you ever played where you would describe it as crazy like almost none right like almost all of them are pretty similar pretty much cut from the same cloth

chambers bay is unlike anything i'd ever experience feels like you're playing a video game that like someone made the golf course to like try and be wacky like oh i'm going to make this golf course look like it's not on earth and like do crazy shit like put these dark dark dark dark gray, dark gray sand in the sand traps. It feels like you're literally hitting balls out of the sand on the moon. You look down and you're like, I'm on the moon right now. It's gray sand. On top of that, they have the train going through, which the train, the trains come through all the time. Country mile trains.

And they're right on the water. So you've got the lone fur. It looks like the train is coming straight from Hogwarts to go pick up people. Straight from Hogwarts. It's got the smoke coming, the steam coming out of the front. You can see Harry Potter waving you on the way by. Oh, my God. As the train goes by, while you're trying to hit a little chip shot or a little nine iron into a green,

you've got the sound in the background, which is absolutely beautiful. Apparently on a clear day, which we did not get, you can see the mountains behind that. So you've got on top of like the course looking like it was built on fucking Mars slash the moon with the bunkering and the uphill, the downhill, the slopes, all that stuff. you've got the spectacular view and landscape of the tree, the sound. There's a couple like Fox Island, I think they call it in the background. There's another one that's like a criminal island in the background. So you've got all this.

We saw a pot of dolphins. I think that actually turned into baby orcas, they said. They were arguing about like if that could have been dolphins that were a pot of dolphins. But then someone else said that they thought it was a pot of. Orca, baby orca whales the way that they were swimming. So I don't know. Jesus Christ.

So it could have been anything out there. It's the Pacific Northwest. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an orca whale. So they did say orca whales go in there. You can see them jumping out of the water, which is just crazy. They go, oh, have you guys seen orca whales before? What the fuck you're talking about?

I literally laughed at Moses's face. Have I seen him? You've never seen one before? They're sick. I'm like, yeah, dude, where am I going to see an orca whale at fucking the corner of 7th Street and, like, Hempstead Turnpike at the 7-11? Oh, I just grabbed a medium ice coffee from Dunkin' Donuts. There's an orca whale jumping out of the water.

Like the fucking concrete jungle that I walk around people pissing on themselves in the subway. Yeah, there's an orca whale just freely jumping out and like eating salmon. Fuck off, Moses. I know what I know that you're the, you're the god of water like Maui is or whatever that, whatever Maui is. But I don't see that shit when I'm in New York. So Chambers was, uh, it. It was something. It was special.

It was difficult. You can't really lose your ball there. There's a lot of danger, meaning bunkers, but like you always find a way to get out of it and you always find your ball. Like it's really, really cool in that way. It's true. And it's, you know, so the second round that we played, which we have video, we videoed every single shot that we took. We probably slept for two and a half hours, maybe three hours. We went out with Moses, Davis, Lindsay, Devon.

Maddie. Maddie's mom. Lindsay's mom was out there. We went out hard Saturday night. We played 36 holes. We were like, you know what? This is like our last night here. We got to have a couple drinks today.

We have the best spot. It's called Hank's. It's like, all right, we're all in on Hanks. Like, that sounds like an awesome name for a dive bar. Like, this is like the best place in Tacoma to go and just relax. They have music playing on the jukebox. And you can get good pizzas and, like, just bar food. So we're like, we're all in.

We had a great fucking round at Chambers Bay. We're all pumped up. You know, Taser played pretty, Taser played well, and I played okay. But we lost our match. I'll just go out and say that. We lost our match against Madie and Riggs. Well, I shot 36 on the back then. Rigsie shot at 36 on the back in at Chambers Bay.

And it was, I mean, it was tough. We got trounced, and you guys won, I think, always, right? Front, back, and match. We did. You guys just did a clean suite? And it was tough, but we all had a great time. I will say that watching Devon Taves hit a golf ball at Chambers Bay is an unbelievable experience, because this fucking guy hits the ball so far and watching it being able to shape with no trees,

and he can just take it out. So he's a lefty, and he hits a ball with a 50-yard fucking, fade. It's like the craziest thing I've ever seen. He flies it at 300. He flies the ball 300 yards. There was a point... And I'm not kidding. He flies at 300 easily. Easily. He kills the golf ball. And then... And I've played with golfers that are

fucking as good as you can imagine. People that pound the golf ball. People that just move it out there, they carry it insane distances, and Taser his ability to hit a power fade. And I hate to suck the guy's dick right now. It was unbelievable. I know he's Islander. I know that he's becoming one of my good friends that I'm going to be golfing with for the rest

of my life because that is the type of guy he is. He's an unbelievable dude. He's the nicest guy. I can't. He's such a Canadian. He's just the nicest guy. I don't want to suck his dick because I know other people that may be listening to shout out Nelly, who doesn't want me to be sucking Tazer's dick. Because I was supposed to be Tazer's opponent all summer. I was talking

about Brock Nels. I was talking trash to Devonte's all season long. Like, I'm going to roast you this year. Me and Nellie are going to just destroy you on the golf course. You have no chance. And then the first time we play together, he's my partner. And I'm like gassing him up. I'm like, you hit the ball so far.

Your irons are unreal. Your short game's sick. I'll blow you right now. Right. He's just, dude, the sound that the ball makes off of the irons, it's a sizzling sound. It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. So, yeah, watching him take a spin around Chambers was unreal. And also shout out Maddie, who I think it was like his first round in forever.

He hadn't played in forever on that Gold Mountain and then at Chambers. And he fucking drills the ball too. Playing off a 12 handicapped. The guy's making birdies on some of the hardest off. He was... I actually think he sandbagged us, which we haven't talked about either. 12 handicap. Fuck off.

I can't hit a fucking wedge for my life. This guy's a 12. The guy's drilling golf balls. He was like, he was playing even on the back night of chambers bet. He was not. He was around it. Look, Maddie came in so clutch. It was crazy.

As much as I like to brag about shooting 36 on the back night of chambers, I shot 46 on the front. I went the rare 46-36 for an 82. our first round of chambers. And for us to have won that match in the front, like, I can't beat a low ball on the group and shoot 46. Maddie was a fucking warrior.

Every time me and Taser got strokes and we thought that we were going to take advantage, like we'd be two strokes down. We were two strokes down on the match, one stroke down on the back. Like, we had a chance. Like, I was on the green in three with stroking on a par five.

Taser was on the green in two, stroking, so he's fucking hitting net two. And then Maddie comes out of nowhere and makes a fucking birdie a four net three and he ties us and pushes the fuck like there's we never had a chance he was suffocating us every time that we finally stroked on the two holes

so did Maddie and every time he won the hole or pushed every single time never once used it to our advantage he was a resilient warrior and that match we were able to win that one we were able to barely squeak that one out then like like Frankie said we went out we had ourselves a fantastic time. Oh, yeah.

Shout out of the town on Saturday night. I have to introduce you, Frankie, to the story about the old Gold Mountain. Oh, man. So we had a couple drinks in us. I think the people that had already been there had even more drinks than them. I don't know. Why did we show up a little later? Oh, we had a hotel issues.

We were going on. I honestly, it's honestly too late to get into it for right now for me. It's 2 a.m. here. we're in Boston. If we start talking about this hotel debacle, we're going to be here until 8 a.m. and this podcast is never going to go out. Let's just say that we had a fucking debacle at the hotels.

We had to switch hotels from night one to night two. Devon and Maddie didn't have rooms. We were getting phone calls on the fucking golf course that we didn't have room. We showed up. They're like, you're trying to play this goddamn golf course that's on Mars. We're playing at Chambers Bay and Taze got a call. He's like, okay, and hung up.

And he's like, well, I don't have a room. anymore. We're like, what? Like, this is embarrassing. And it was me that it planned the whole thing. So I'm like, drove four hours to come here. You know, it was a train wreck. It's a train wreck. But we end up getting it done. So we, we did that that night. And then we show up at Hanks. They had drank, meaning Lindsay, the mom, uh, you know, the friends and Moses already had all these IPA. I've never seen a guy drink so many IPA pictures in my life. You just got us so fucked up. Demolished. I go. And that's what, like, we're not cut like you. Moses. Moses. Moses is half your size. Fuck off. Like, your left peck is as big as my entire body.

You think I can drink that IPA bullshit? He's like, oh, you want some more? Yeah, sure. Top me off. Pound on the IPAs, top me off. God. The pound of IPAs, top me off. Next thing you know, I haven't had a shot.

I haven't done any hard liquor. I'm blackout drunk. Blackout drunk. And so Lindsay's mom is sitting next to us. Apparently, so apparently Lindsay is a stick. Like, she played golf and, I don't know if she played college golf or she did. She played college golf. Her mom is a fucking.

like scratch golf or two she belongs to like moses kept coming up to me going hey lindsay's a stick like and then lindsay's mom belongs to tachoma country club and like they were talking about how proud she is as like a a single mom that like belongs to her own country club and walks around and fucking dusts all the all the members there and like she'll like everyone will give her looks like oh like she doesn't belong here and then she'll just go out there and fucking post a 79 78 and like she was talking about um she played uh she played um bandin and another and to coma and also chambers when there was no yardage markers or flags in the in the in the in the in the on the golf course she like got out there like while they were just placing the grass down is that a thing she like yeah she was like it's a coolest experience i get like i get to i played golf courses before they were finished like she like took a spin around the location basically i think i was too many i you were way too many ipes in but anyway so so lindsay's mob is on our side of the table meaning me mattie and taser and we're all like having fun like like taves and mattie are like getting into it like this is their night too like to like basically like let let like let like let loose with us and like first time drinking with the guys and and like we're all like just laughing about the the matches that we just had and then and linds's mom's asking us like so what like what golf courses did you guys like this weekend like what tell us the list and we're like oh we played gold course aldera and we play chambers and she's like i got to ask you like what what do you think about like what's your favorite one and we're like probably gold

course and she's like what's your next favorite one we're like probably no no first we're like probably chambers and then gold course she's no don't don't think about chambers i want to hear about gold course aldera and home course gold mountain aldera and home course what do you like and we're like gold mountain two seconds later she takes a sip of beer puts it down on the table and she goes divan i got to ask you gold mountain aldera home course and then like devon looks like devon looks me, he goes, uh, Gold Mountain. I like Gold Mountain the best. And she's like, Frankie, what do you think? I'm like, Gold Mountain.

She goes, okay, okay. I respect that. But I got to ask you one more. She's like, I got to ask you. Gold Mountain. And at one point, I looked at them. I go, no fucking way. Gold Mountain, Aldera, or Home Course. And we're like, it's got to be Gold Mountain. It's got to be. It just has to be.

Taser can't hold himself together. He walks over and gets another IPA, even though we don't need one. He goes to the bar, gets a beer. He leaves the situation. We get asked a couple more times while he's gone. He sits down and we think it's over. And she goes to me and she goes, Frankie, just tell me this once. She goes, Gold Mountain, Aldera, or Home Course.

And I said, and Taser sits down. And she asks him, I go, you know what? You got to ask this guy right here because he knows the answer. And Taser's like, no fucking way. I'm like, Taser, Gold Mountain, Home Course, or Aldera. and he's like, he slams his hand on the table and he goes, it's got to be Golden Mountain. And we all just erupted.

So it was a great night of just unbelievable laughing and drinking. And I mean, I think that she was just a little drunk and she just kept asking the same question. I mean, we must have said Gold Mountain 18 times. So to the point where like, it was just ingrained in my body. Like, Golden Mountain is the better course between like it was just hilarious. And it wasn't even true. Like, we just, we loved Alderra. We just had to keep saying.

We loved, I loved Alderamore. But they hadn't played all there, so they played Gold Mountain. I wasn't in the position to explain that to her because she was in no state to understand. Like, listen, actually, Lindsay Malm, they didn't play all there. They played Gold Mountain, Home Course, Chambers. They like, gold Mountain. You can't explain that. She's like, but what do you like more?

I don't know which one I like more. I don't know which one I like more. So, yeah, it was fun. And then we just drank until, what, like 3 a.m. So we did. We drank until probably, I think they kicked this out of the bar at like 2.30. We had a tea time at 6.30 the next morning. We're back.

I remember very distinctly being back in my hotel room. It was like 315 or 3.30 and looking at my phone, setting my alarm for 545. Because we had to get up. We had to pack everything that we own. We had to get into the car. We had to drive to Chambers Bay. We had to get the shuttle from the pro shop at Chambers Bay to check again down to the course. And then we had to tee off at Chambers Bay.

We got the Chambers Bay. I swear to God, I think I blinked. And then I was up. I lay to my bed. I closed my eyes and I woke up. And it was just time to wake up. I was like, okay, I just put my, there's no worse feeling than putting your contacts in when you haven't slept. There is no worse feeling.

You're putting plastic in your eyeballs. So we had Zach and Casey on the bag at Chambers on the second spin. We filmed every single shot we took. They legit were chirping us as we walked up to the first tee. Like, oh, these look like a bunch of boys that were out with Moses till 3 a.m. last night. We were hungover. We were hungover. Having to, like, come after Moses.

Yeah, no, I agree. and like they they must have thought so poorly of us exactly as golfers and people i mean we like our emotional capacity our energetic capacity at that point was so pathetic that the minute that you hit an imperfect shot you just collapsed i mean everyone ever just collapsed i've been tired before but i've never had to i never had been so tired where i walked 36 holes you know my hands were like sore my feet were sore i was tired i was genuinely fatigued and i've never been in the situation where i had to do it again and like golf that quickly and like actually perform and swing like i no joke almost threw up from tiredness like yeah i was hung over but i really just

genuinely like didn't know if i could keep my eyes open and like having to physically do like a like a like a fucking athletic feet and like hit a golf ball 200 yards like you know what i mean like actually physically put a lot of force into a golf swing made me like want to die. But luckily, like it came around. Like, somehow you snap out of it and you start playing. Well, I think it's something about like just as the day goes on. Like the sun starts coming up.

And I think you kind of gain energy and enthusiasm from the venue, right? Like being at Chambers, it was almost like I kept hyping myself up. Like, dude, you have your whole rest of your life. Every minute that you're sitting in the office in New York City or on the subway, you will be dreaming. You'll be begging to be. to be this tired. To be this tired and be in this moment.

Right. You get to play chambers where you're like standing on these T-boxes, looking at this unbelievable landscapes in front of you. And like I get to play this golf course and how fun this is. So like it was this constant struggle with yourself and being like, I am a pathetic, hungover, exhausted excuse for a person. And then also like I have to put legitimate swings on the on the ball because I'm playing a U.S. Open course with pretty beautiful weather.

And on top of that, we filmed every single shot. And it was an absolute struggle. We both played pretty terribly, but we also, at the same time, we were able to grind out a match. We had a great have on the match with Taser, Bertie, in the 18th hole. Same hole, obviously, that's speed. And DJ came down to when they were playing for the U.S. Open.

Taser hit an unbelievable drive, hit it up there close to the green, hit a phenomenal chip to give me range. And then we tried to match them with birdies, came up a little bit short, ended up having the match. But we filmed again every single shot from that round. We're going to figure out a way.

It'll probably take several weeks, at least to edit all that footage. We have hours of footage on our phones from that whole thing. I took a bunch of drone footage as well. We have six videos that we captured from the Seattle Tacoma trip alone. We have two or three more from the Pebble Day alone. So we have a bunch of videos

We have the Glen Oaks ones That gets us to like 9 or 10 or 11 videos So we have a bunch of editing for our boys to do For Jake and for Will to do But it was it was spectacular I cannot stress enough How much I recommend Doing the Pacific Northwest trip

You have to There's a bunch of other spots up there too That I'd leave yourselves a couple more days too So you can go Like we didn't see Seattle Like I wanted to see the fucking needle thing And I'd never seen it I wanted to see Seattle too

Gamble Sands Which is David McClay Kid track. Like, there's so much more to do there. That's about, I think it's like three and a half, four hours straight east of Seattle, which I really was trying to build into this trip. As you can hear from like how fucking exhausted and how little sleep we got, how pathetic a golf we played at certain points because of it,

that we just didn't have time to put that in. So like Gamble Sands, I wanted to see Saheli, Sahali, however else you call it, is a track that I really wanted to hit. So there's a lot more to do in the Pacific Northwest trip. that we didn't even get to. It's been a week there. Go like a Tuesday to like a Sunday. It was a, um,

it was just a spectacular part of the country that the, the views and kind of just the way the, the land and the mountains and the trees all rolled into each other along the ocean, the sound. It's not that expensive of an area either. Like the hotels I was looking at were like a, like, really nice four-star hotels were like, like, 115 bucks a night. Like you can stay with like unreal views of like Tacoma and like you can even stay even closer to like you can stay closer to chambers and do stuff like that like there's there's going to be

like resorts opening up around there like this is going to be a destination spot if it's not already like like what lindsay did bringing us out there and like showing us so then that we can show the world how just like it's so accessible and so cool for anyone to go out and play that and it's going to become even more better it's such a cool thing like i never would have thought chambers bay was as as easy like easy to get on and like easy to play and easy to just like i don't know it was like vacation spot to like actually go and like want to be there like you can bring girlfriends there and like it's it's not just for guys that just want to golf like it's an awesome area is what i'm trying to get at no and we we you know we ran into a bunch of four-point listeners platrons stooleys that we

saw that were uh on the shuttle that were like yeah we play here all the time we saw people that like yeah i'm here with my my wife my girlfriend my friends doing a trip they're at the spa this that like to cobo was gorgeous frankie and i one day just walked around and checked out like the Harbor. We went to a bar, got a couple of beers. Tacoma was awesome. We even get to go to Seattle, which is supposed to be phenomenal. So there's a lot to do up there. It was honestly, we flew direct back to Boston. You can fly direct from New York and all that. It's like a five and a half hour flight. It's not the easiest flight in the world, but it's also, if you compare that to kind of go into some

other places like Bannon or Cabot, you know, it's pretty damn easy to get to. It's just a pretty direct flight from those bigger cities. and a lot of other places have direct flights there too. So it was awesome. It was a ton of fun. We were only there for like two and a half, three days. If we had had more time, we'd have even more to talk about. We're two hours deep into this show,

or we thought we'd struggle to talk for 30 minutes. So I think that probably tells you that we enjoyed ourselves and had a lot to break down. And again, please subscribe to our YouTube pages. We're going to put all of the content, all the videos that we just kind of described, are going to go up on there. Four play golf, look us up.

We'll post everything on there. Please subscribe so that whenever we post new shit, you get updated. I think that's all we got. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it was just, I mean, I'm in like another state of mind. And I don't know how we're still talking. I mean, fucking Devontase hit me up just like a half an hour ago because he's still on that three hour time difference,

which really fucks me up. We lost three hours too. he's like you record the pod yet he's like we're pumped to listen to it i'm like we're talking right now and he's like how is that possible he's like how is it possible that you guys are still going that's how tired a fucking professional athlete is from what we did it was a tiring fucking and i'm not surprised that he's shocked because no one should still be up we've been traveling our dicks off we did live radio we went to game one we drank a bunch of beers and then we came back and now recorded it's 2.15 of the morning and we just we've been going through all this shit which

I know it sounds glorious and awesome, and it is a really cool life, but I'm also tired. I'm allowed to be tired. We're allowed to be tired people. Have to give huge thanks to Lindsay, our girl hooked us up at Chambers Bay, helped us out. My guy, BR, who helped us out with a bunch of the other bookings, Moses, Davis, our boy, Zach and Casey out at Chambers Bay, who caddyed for us. Those guys were a blast. We had a good time, like I mentioned, with a couple of them. You guys are all awesome.

We couldn't have had more fun. Thank you all for making our trip, our experiences that much better. Go check out those places. Keep your eyes, your ears peeled for our videos and all that stuff from the trip. Next up again, we've got a teaser at the beginning. Dave's going to jump on for about 15 minutes. We talk all about the Mulligan Challenge, playing Pell Beach for the first time. We'll be back on Thursday with our second show of the week.

Hit it hard. Hit it hard or soft or left or right, whatever you want to do. I don't give a fuck anymore. How you hit it. I can barely hit it. Let's go to sleep. All right, we are now, we're live from Hurricanes in Boston, a couple hours before game one, state of cup finals.

Everybody's been reunited from the first time since Pebble. So we grabbed Dave real quick. Mulligan Challenge. It was obviously a little different this year. We talked about it a little bit on last week's show. But Dave, Pebble Beach, first experience. Mulligan Challenge, let's hear it from you how you thought the whole thing went. Well, first of all, I'm not like an easy person to impress.

Okay. I thought Pebble Beach was spectacular. Like, I don't even, my parents are here, they showed up, and then like, oh, can you believe I showed up? Yeah, you show up every time we do it, and then you act surprised, but whatever. But I like the course enough where I was like, oh, I have to take my parents to play Pebble Beach because they both like golf. I don't like spending that much time with my parents.

That should tell you how much I thought Pebble Beach was just spectacular. You don't have to golf good. It's just unbelievable to see it in person and play it. As far as the challenge goes, I don't know whose fault or what fault. He's already looking at me when he said that. He's looking right at Friday. I don't know, and you said this, I don't know enough about golf. I really didn't know how much easier the front nine was than the back nine.

I didn't know I had to load up and really have a pretty significant, which I could have. I should have. I just didn't know. Like, I was through the first nine, even when I screwed up, I gave away the, those two little pucks. I wasn't too worried. I'm like, I'll get them back because I keep getting in range. But then the back nine turned into Shinnecock, where I couldn't get even close.

So I also want to clarify, I went into it not saying I was going to definitely win. I had no idea. Right, and we were trying to do the 12-ball against per hole. It's perfect. We tried to come up with a number that was going to make it like 50-50. 12 is perfect because I think if I played that course 100 times, I think maybe I'd succeed 50 of it. Right. I think it's very 50.

I think it's got to be 12 for that course. I think it was the right number. I don't think it had the right mindset. I didn't realize it would get that much harder. I was disappointed. I didn't succeed because I thought I could have. But at the same time, all right, let me put this one. If I played it again, I'd guarantee I'd do it.

Guarantee? Guarantee. Now I know what it is. What do you mean, guarantee? You were like six over on the 17th T. Yeah, but you're also forgetting that we were six over because at one point we stopped saying we're going to try and go right like there is no winning that challenge if you're plus three plus four plus two is plus two so we gave up on going to the park

gave up like I could have gone par it's like we need a birdie so I'm sitting here hitting it and then it ended up with like a double or a triple so I had it's like I'm one of those guys which is in the video I'm not playing for a second I'm not oh it's plus one plus two I either want to win or not I have to be better on the front but I can easily on that front I can be my minus three, minus four. I know I can. There were a couple instances. So the fourth hole was the one where the all-time gift has come of Frankie's face,

where his soul left his body. There's another one on the ninth hole. Right. So if you get rid of those, I think I'm probably even for the day. Yeah, yeah. No, those were huge because you were. So you, and I kept, obviously, you didn't know. I went from minus one.

I went from minus two looking to go to minus three to minus one. Like there was a two. I was putting and I was inches away. I had like 10 opportunities for a birdie, missed all by an inch and then missed the tapping. So I went, that was the whole tournament. Fourth hole was a two-stroke strike. In hindsight, I didn't realize it was the tournament

because I didn't know like I was out of opportunity. Oh, I realized. So I didn't know that. Fourth hole, I looked at that and my body just, I froze. Because you knew the back nine was impossible. No, I just knew that you can't give up two strokes in that tournament. You can't. If the back nine was like the front nine,

you can't. The back nine's impossible for my length. You also didn't know like if I was just doing my schick of like it gets harder in the back or if I was serious and I was serious there. On top of that, you kind of got double whammyed on that because the wind fucked you. Like the whole back nine was straight into the wind and you just couldn't reach any of the back nine I had back nine was the same exact thing as Shinnecon like right. I would have to hit my perfect shots just to get a long par opportunity. Right. There was no birdie. So yeah, it, you were. two under through seven and you should have been four or five hundred through seven and that changed

the whole way we played the back nine that's why knowing what i know now i am one thousand percent sure i could do it it's amazing how accurate twelve was because there are some moments the right number with the chipping there were some moments on big shots where it was like what do we do on this do we take it do we not take it and like there was one on the eleventh hole where you were down to two mulligan's left the caddy wanted you to do one thing he thought the chip was fucking impossible even though it wasn't frankie wanted to do another thing and then you wanted to hit again And frankly, the caddy was better this time, but he also checked out, not Frankie. The other guy, he's at one point around like the 10th or something.

He's like, hey, can I co-promote? I didn't know what the fuck that meant, but he, like, went on his own Instagram. I don't know who he is. My guess is he's got a max of three people that follow him on Instagram. And after he just, he quit. He's like, he started telling me to take shots that were like in the ocean. He's like, you can play that off. up that seal's eyeball.

It's like, what are you talking about? So going into this, going into this round, I was like, all right, I'm going to be on Dave's bag, and I wasn't a little nervous that, like, I don't know Pebble Beach. I never been there, played it on the video game, watch on TV. I'm like, and in the back of my head, I wanted to ask rigs without even knowing we'd have a caddy, like, do we have someone walking with us that's going to let us know the place? So I was pumped when I knew that we had a guy who knew what we were doing and knew the golf course.

That being said, what happened on the 10th hole made the back nine impossible because then we stopped, we literally stopped trusting the caddy from the moment he pulled his phone out until the 18th hole. He, in the holes that we needed him, he was looking into this phone, there was a moment where Dave was hitting a chip, he's looking into his phone going, oh, that's right. And, like, doing a selfie mode, and

Dave put it into the water, he goes, you can put that. We're like, what are you talking about? Who are you looking at? He just was over it by the 10th. The second he did that, he's like, over it. I don't know what he is. He also at the end, he's like, are you into, like, motor sports? I was like, yeah, he handed me a business card. It looks like he was like a

NASCAR driver? I don't know what happened to him. At the 10th on, he checked out. But it was the first nine, you know, and frankly, the travel and all that shit was a lot. Like, I wasn't the best mental. I mean, we were laid in there. My dog was a little bit under the weather still doing better. There's a lot of factors.

But those missed shots. The one that, I don't know that mattered when I didn't leave myself that extra putt. You have to, can't let me shoot that. Yeah. I'm just like, no, I'm doing it again. like okay yeah it was a point where I stepped in I'm like Dave take that one you're like no I can make it and I backed off you are supposed to like I should have just stepped in front of him yeah put my hand in front of his face because of the right call so it was great um with so much strategy I do think he says he's guarantees but I guarantee it now there's so much strategy involved that I thought we did well with the strategy I thought we showed that we could do it I think if you went up there if you went a day early you had a full night sleep you teed off at like 10 or 11 in the morning you had now Frankie seen the course now you know the front nine versus the bagman

with 12 Mulligans you would definitely do it I think you would I my issue was I didn't realize the pressure that I put myself on really till we because even the caddies like the scoring holes like 14 16 17 18

and 18 scoring I kept waiting and they just weren't I couldn't reach so it was like that was because the win the win just like was right in the face because if that win switches was the other way the front nine still plays pretty easy and the back nine would have played much easier like the back nine

I never had a shot into the green that was like less than 200 right so that's very difficult for me I have to like Colecock one get it to sit there that's exactly Shinnecock where we were trying to hit bomb pars because we couldn't reach them too but then you can put till the cowlis come home front nine

was a very playable golf course because he was hitting the green and two we were we had like five or six putts for birdie and then we didn't make by the way makeable birdie puck well you were were playing pretty fucking well. He was not that far. He was hitting pin high shots from 150, 160 yards. There was a chance.

There was a moment like on the fifth hole. Now the sixth hole. When you made that birdie on the sixth hole after struggling in that hole and then birdied seven again. And then you had a no, then you had a good par look on eight, but he missed it. Oh, he missed it. And I thought if he pars eight, we're fucked. I don't know what I can't put.

I can't put. I don't know how to put. What I've said since we started the challenge. I know my irons and my driver if you let me just sit there like when I hit a golf ball correctly it travels correctly it goes way up it lands down so I can get close um 12's the right number like I think if Vegas had odds if we had a bookie next year if I played that course it would be a pickum yeah it'd be a wild gambling event because it really is we tough to tell how I do that we got to find a way to make it live where is the U.S. Open next year wing foot just up the street

Oh, it's back in. Back here. Yeah. How does that course play lengthwise? Hard. Yeah. Wingfoot's traditionally maybe the hardest course of the country. I feel like you guys said that about Shinnecock. He did say it.

I mean, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Shinnecock, Wingfoot and Oakmont are probably the three most, you know, iconic, like, difficult. Pebbles up there, but it's just not as long. Right. And length is what kills you. And length is what kills me, and I know it's part of the whole thing. but like the tips were way the fuck back there.

They were. There were some holes in Pebble. What was the hole where? They said they hadn't seen like 10 years. Caddy looks at it and he goes, all right, we're up here and we're like, no dude,

we're way back there. He started laughing out loud and he goes, I haven't seen the T's back there in 10 years. Like I know there's one hole. I, what are you golfers called? Striped. I hit my drive almost as good as I can hit it.

And I was at the women's teas. So it's like, all right, well, I have a long way to fucking go still. There were a couple T's that were just I don't even know what do I If I hit my drive correctly Well I rarely

Hit it correctly because I either slice it And fades or I hook it I very rarely like and when I hook it It goes further not hook it but doesn't go straight What do I hit my drive like 220 to 30? Yeah somewhere around it up maybe a little further A little further You might go 240 to 50 when you pipe one

That's my distance and and I just Again I could have won I wasn't that devastated because I didn't say I would It sucked because I know I could have It wasn't like okay I just can't do it. It was the right number. It was definitely a little different too because we actually saw you like grind out bars where like the unlimited Mulligans you kind of just knew it was inevitable like eventually he's going to make one of these puts whereas this one was like there was a four

holes in a row I think 11 12 13 14 where you had like two mulligans left and made a huge bar putt it was it it almost is like what makes golf great you you can do anything to make it interesting right like we made that interest like that was the exact right number like if that's a lot of telecast people would have been like glued like is he going to do it it was up and down until like you couldn't go out and compete in the staling cup finals no but like you could go play the us oh that's the handicap and you can do anything to make it like basically even i also very interesting i just think it's cool to hear you talk about like how amazed you were by the course because you're not impressed by anything no that was beautiful the only i on in mexico i played a course uh in cabo

you could drive the ball like 600 yards because it rolled forever. It was so dry. That was the only thing I'd seen close to that. That course, the Mexican course I played, and Sugarloaf. Has anyone ever played Sugarloaf? You talked about that. I heard Sugarloaf's awesome. Sugarloaf is amazing.

It's like you'll be on top of a ski mountain with like an undulated tea. But yeah, it was... Even driving up to the golf course, when we were just driving around that part of California, we were amazed. I think everyone's first experience of that place was insane. Again, for me to say I would take my parents there, speak volume. What is it? When you walk on the fourth fairway, is that when you start to see it? So there's those trees on the right, you hit your T-shot on four, and then you walk out to the fairway.

And you're like, holy shit. And that's where that harbor and all those sailboats are, and you're like, oh, shit. You can see the cliff on six and all that. You don't have to be good at golf to enjoy it. So it was great. I asked him off, Frankie, when we did a piece where, did you like, which one did you like more? That are Chambers Bay. I saw all your pictures from Chambers Bay.

I would say they're wildly different the way that they play, but I don't know that you could beat the seven-hole stretch at Pebble from like four through... I'm talking like picturesque. Yeah, I don't know that you could beat... I mean, you have pretty great pictures from Chambers Bay. I think standing on the first tee at Chambers Bay and looking out at the whole entire golf course is something that you'll never see in your life unless you go there. It looks like Mars.

It looks like you're on fucking Mars. You actually see one to 18 all in one stretch. So it's like weird like that. But Pebble Beach, you're standing on 7 and 8. You physically can't recreate that. that unless you're at Pebble Beach. It is legit, like, magical. It's magic.

Whereas Chambers is more, like, kind of crazy and stunning. You're like, what is this than I'm looking at? Right. And they got the train and it's cool, but Pebble's a hard decision because they're both fucking in front of them. I will say, we've got Pebble Beach. We played, like, basically in that media tournament. When I left, it was starting to turn into a little bit of a zoo and they have the whole

village. I don't know if that would overwhelm me, just playing, like, as a normal human there. Right, because people go to Pebble Beach as just vacation. Girls and why anybody can play right yeah like yeah like I have like girlfriends and like my family went there once just like go to the shops and like look at the views so it is different and even when we were finishing 18 there was like stooly's all standing around drinking they're like drinking margaritas and watching us put on 18 Maybe good maybe bad like I it it I'd be curious to see what a day like if you just how far in advance do you need a tea time there you got to book it I think months in advance I told my parents like you won't get a tea time the guy the president's from I think Braintree or Loll or something but he was a mass guy yeah masthole very excited he was probably like what was I doing I shook his hand and ran off the course

you did so I'll say the one thing before he left that I was kind of upset about is that there's this huge wall after 18 it says champions at pebble beach and it did make me a little upset that we couldn't get your name plastic because I think had we done it I think they may have put it up I'm not even kidding I know and I'm going back there and now I'm you know I was going to be up back-to-back champ but it's hard to repeat his US over champ I still think winning 50% of the U.S. opens you've ever Not bad.

Pretty good. That's a high number. I'll be back. I could have done better. I could have done better. Whatever. But there's a lot of travel for one day. I don't know why we didn't fly into Monterey somehow, but whatever.

I think that's probably what we should have done. Five hours sleep going into a U.S. Open Sunday technically is a little tough. And we were kind of late. I had like no warm ups. Oh, that was like screaming at us. That is one down part to Pebble Beach that I noticed is that everything shuttles. Right?

So like, I mean, most regular people aren't showing up like 30 minutes before their tea time. But like we had to shuttle to the drive. to the driving range and then the guys from the shuttle look over your shoulder and watch you hit every single shot while saying the next shuttle is leaving if you don't make that you're just not golfing today. The shuttle guy said no more practice. No more practice. And just we happen to me with the U.S.

opening's like he needs a couple. Right. So you got like three or four swings and we rush back to the thing. Like usually at a golf course like all right yeah we'll be there in a second like give us our time and they're like you will not play today. Truth be told practice doesn't make that much of a different like once I hit a couple it doesn't really matter and I fade. I was fading at the end

I was gassed. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll be out of Pebble in two weeks. You have to open at some Allgen Challenge. That's Dave. Thank you, Dave.