Fore Play - Pat Perez: Some Wine & A Chat

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

Pat Perez (2:45) drinking a bottle of MJ wine joins the show from the RBC Heritage to cover it all: Hideki winning at Augusta, his relationship to Si Woo’s broken putter, the maddest he’s ever been on the course, defending Horschel and Poulter, not eating fish, what makes professional golf standout in difficulty, and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Four Play, I'm at Barstful Sports. We've got a big guest, one of our favorites, obviously. Pat Perez joins the show live from Hilton Head. He's there for the RBC Heritage this week, and we catch up. He's drinking a little bit of wine, and we go through pretty much everything in the world of golf and life, particles, the universe, just kind of what we do with one of our favorite guests.

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I didn't do it. I don't even know what it is. I will say dissertations, they're a nightmare. It's just a, you've got to write a really long, you know, essay or, you know, about a topic. It's a nightmare. It sucks. I just did a quick search of the best two-year schools in the U.S. And I'm going to keep looking.

It's not on the top. Do you see, do you see Kirkwood Community College on there? Because that's where I went. No. Top 10, we got W. Walla Community College, that's number one. Santa Barbara, City College, Lake Area Technical Institute. I don't think we need to go through all the list here, but that's pretty unrelated.

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How are we doing? What are doing, baby. It's already 218 out there. Oh, wherever the hell you are. No, no, I'm in the Hilton head. All right. Fair enough. Which is awesome.

Perfect today. How's it there, nice? It's unbelievable. It was 80 today. It's perfect. Fucking awesome. Hell yeah. Can't be.

Of course, it's unbelievable. It's hard as shit. It's going to be awesome. Firm? Firm. The greens like concrete. I think they painted them. I think they're fucking painted.

They're like walking on the street. Good, because I feel like they're too soft. Like most places are just too soft for you guys. Well, this place has been, this place last year was really soft, which this is where the defense of this course comes in. If you get the swirling winds and the firm greens, it's, fuck, it's a good test. It's such a great place. What's going on with you guys? We just can't.

We were just in Philly. We were just gambling our dicks off on the Masters all week. Does anybody have a decky? Nope. No. Nobody did. My cat was telling me that he was 40 to 1. That's hard to believe.

A lot of people in this room with Xander, though. So it's always a good pick in any major. That kid's phenomenal. I mean, that's always a good pick. I had ROM, you know, DJ, the normal, normal, you know. Wouldn't it take him Rory, though. But, you know. Yeah, he's got something going on.

God, I was, I was played a track around with Shane Lowry and Pulter Day. I was telling him, I just don't understand how Rory's on the top three every single week he plays. That kid is so fucking good. He doesn't do anything bad. It's long, irons are long and high. I mean, it's just I can't figure out how he doesn't play unbelievable every day. I just can't figure it out. What do you think about him trying to, like, chase Bryson swing speed, all that stuff?

I think that's ridiculous. I think it's right. He has four majors, you know. He has four. Four majors, he's, like I've said, you know, in the past, he's arguably the best thing I've seen since Tiger all the way through the bag. I just don't understand why he would let Bryson, you know, almost intimidated, you know, to the point where he thinks he, fuck, this guy is so long anyway. And he knows where the ball is going for the most part. The driver, his driver is unbelievable.

Why he would worry about where Bryson's hitting it, I don't know. You know, he needs to get back to what he was doing when he was, when he was done. comment, number one, you know, number one winning four majors. That's what I would get back to him. Hopefully Pete Cowan, who's working with now gets him back to that point. So, look, we need to get back to where we were. Can't worry about anybody else. You know, it was like when we grew up with Tiger, you know, he was the longest, he was the straightest. He had the best short game, his best long, isn't that, you know you weren't going to beat him, but you just kind of, you just try to do your best. And, you know, Rory, Rory is best is unbelievable.

And he needs to get back to that point. Yeah, just like, it's so weird to me that he would try to be cheap because it's not like he's not long he's long as shit he couldn't be a longer yeah right he hits the ball a mile it hits it straight he's like arguably the best driver of the golf ball ever ever and he's going to try to chase something that seems like like if kiz is trying to get way longer or something i could see that but roy's already really long yeah and the thing is you've seen what brys has done now both times at augusta the long ball is fantastic but the bottom line is you have to be in the right spots at that course because no other way around now if i can see where he says parsing 67. You know, if you hit the driver like he thinks he's supposed to hit the driver every hole,

yes, then PAR can be 67 for you. But when you hit it where he hits it, you shoot over PAR. That's just the way that course is. It's a position course. You know, you've seen the guys that have won there, they're in position. They hit in the right spots, and that's how they win. It's just all the way through the bag. I mean, Zach Johnson laid up on every part five and won. You know, he knew he knew his game. He wasn't intimidated by the long hitters in the field. And that's, you know, that's why he won. There's different ways to do it, but I don't know, man. I don't know.

The, why Roy doesn't play while. I can't figure it out. I mean, do you ever, like, do you ever get, do you ever get sucked into that? Not even just distance related, but just like playing your game. Like, do you, because, you know, you're out there with, I mean, you've been doing it for long. You've been out. You've been keeping your job forever, which is like clearly speaks to how good you are. But do you, do you ever, you know, you're on the range with the guy, you're a practice around with a guy.

Are you ever like, fuck, man. Like, I need to get to that. You know, at 45 now, I'm not really going to do too much different. Like, I'm hitting it farther than I actually ever have, but I'm not doing shit. I'm swinging, you know, I was out with each other day, and I was swinging between 122 and 124 on my flight's good. So, you know, I'm actually hitting the driver, you know,

a long lay for me right now. So I actually have the part that I've always been missing, which is a long driver, long three wood, long five wood. And, you know, if I make some putts and get something going, my season can turn around, just haven't really had anything really go my way yet. But I feel like I'm hitting hitting it better than I ever have, definitely the longest in my career I have. But no, I don't really get, I don't get caught up too much because, you know, I know everybody's

game really well now. So I know what they do well. I know what I, I know what I have to do to succeed. You know, I have to hit the driver and play. I've got to hit some long ironers good. My short game's got to be amazing. That's the only way, every time I've won, I've been number one. one in putting.

So, and if you look at the guys that do win, they're usually number one in putting. You know, the tiger is the only one that really could put shitty and actually win because he hit so many fairways and greens back in the day that that's why he was so dominant. He didn't have to have his, you know, when he putted amazing, he won by 12. But my game is, I have to be, I got to be in play, and I've got to have birdie puts, and I've got to make enough of them to compete. I'm talking to guys on tour. Do you get the sense that more people are trying to do what Bryson is doing?

Like, Rory, we know because they asked him the question, and he answered it. He answered it honestly. Do you get the feeling that there's more people on tour that are also trying to do that? No, because it really can't be done. Like a Matt Spittpatrick that said that, he physically can't do it. He'd have to put on 50 pounds, which just isn't his body frame. It'd be like the Zellatoris not. Obviously, it seems like he's going to be a really good player.

The guy's 112 pounds. You know, he's all of a sudden going to get to 230. He hits it long. you know, he has one of those rare stats that guys back in the day didn't have, like my brother had. He flies it more than double his weight. That's a hard stat to have. You think about it, right?

Right from the 240 way he's not going to fly at 480, right? Right. That kid, he's a nice player. He's played well since U.S. Open, even last year in the cornfairy. But he has, for him to change anything he's doing now would be absolutely just foolish, beyond belief. So I don't see a lot of guys bolken up out here like DJ he's long this ship and he's always been

like long he's kind of like a felt right you know he's long real you know he can turn I'm not seeing anybody that's really doing anything extra like drinking 15 protein shakes and try and put on 50 pounds to hit it as hard as you can I just don't

I don't think that's the route to go now Bryson thinks that that is the way to go he's had some success doing it but you know the way he's played the last two times because Augusta, you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't question anything advice does. He's a very smart individual. He, um, it's worked for him, you know, he obviously won the U.S. opening, one Bay Hill. He's won at two really, really hard courses. So I'm not going to question shit at what he's doing, but no one's, no one's doing that.

And I don't see anybody, you know, bench pressing 350. I mean, you know, Brooks, likes to put on some weight, but he doesn't hit any farther than he did, in my opinion. So the answer your question, I don't see. anybody doing that. Yeah. Talk to us a little bit about speed. Speed's been a huge story this year. Last several months, he kind of merged with the waste management, a bunch of top fours, top

fives. Then he wins two weeks ago, and then he contends at the Masters. You know, like we've discussed him a ton. I do think he kind of almost comes off like somebody who you're talking about right now where it's like he doesn't pound the ball by any stretch of the imagination. It's not, you can't even really pinpoint a lot of the times when you're watching, why yet he's up there a ton you know we kind of were debating

and frankie made the point of like it must be exhausting to play with him sometimes when he's in attention because all of the chatter and like he's got to be exhausted think about how tired he is at night with all the talk so yeah like when you when you play with the man like is it because he's constantly chattering he's talking to himself

he's talking to his ball he's talking to Michael like what is it what is it like you know I can tell you I did my show my radio show about a month ago and you know people called in they were talking about, you know, why he's struggling? I said, well, I can tell you, it's a kid's working his fucking ass off. I mean, he works and works and works and works. And he knows that there's going to be light at the end of that time. He knows because he's already seen it with a ton of

success back in the day, right? So I'm not surprised at all that finally he won, and that he, I thought he should have won August as well. His short game is second to none. His short game is as good as anybody I've ever seen to play the game. Okay, it's tiger-esque back in the day. It might even, I mean, it might be right there with it. And his short game is incredible, which saves him a lot of the time. So he has that belief that he can get it up and down from anywhere, make any put when it needs to happen and this and that. This kid works his fucking ass off.

He does. You know, we see him out there all the time, you know, hitting balls all day, putting, doing drills, chipping drills, driving, everything, working with his coach, working. You know, it's the same thing with Hedekke. Hedeky doesn't get any type of media exposure over here. Now, over there, he's like Elvis, right? We know that.

Here, no one talks about him because the undue interviews, He doesn't really speak English, so he's kind of under-radar guy as far as media-wise. But fuck this kid. Same thing. All day on the range. You know, putting. Not talking to anybody. Working his fucking ass off.

Doing it. And I was so happy for him on Sunday because I played so much with Hedecki in the last, you know, 10 years, really. He's been on tour. I haven't really kind of got to know him because his English has gotten a lot better, but the first five years didn't speak English. But I've been around him a lot, played him a lot. This kid's unbelievable. kid's fucking amazing.

There's no surprise that he won that tournament and had the balls to take it all the way. And even though he was kind of struggling to come in, I weren't surprised at all. I would not surprise as all. That kid's phenomenal. You know, the media has their darlings out here that they want to win so bad. And they would just do anything for this guy to win because they can't fucking say enough about him. And, of course, they didn't really have a lot to say about a decade because they don't really know anything. You know, they didn't know his family wasn't there.

You know, they didn't know anything about the kid. You know, he's phenomenal. He's a fucking unbelievable player, works his ass off, like, you know, just about everybody else does now, but there's just no media attention. The fact he won, literally just walked off,

fucking Sianara and goodbye. And that was it. It goes to the fucking airport and jump out of the fucking 8C or whatever hell he was in and it takes up. There's no flash with the guy. There's no flash.

He just fucking goes and does his business and moves on. He's the nicest kid there is. His interpreter Bob couldn't be any nicer. I mean, I literally could not have been any happy for that guy I mean, he is, he is so awesome to be around.

And it's so big. I mean, you know, especially for the fact that the other girl won the, not the other girl, but the girl won, you know, Sunday the women's am. And then he wants, I mean, think about that fucking dream for Japan. You know, with the Olympics coming, it's just, you can't, you can't skip the shit. You can't skip that shit. And I think it's phenomenal for the game. Not that he's an underdog, but a guy that normally talks about her picks up her, he wins.

It's so good for the game to get something like that, in my opinion. You know, it just really is. And he had speed come back and win. And then you got Hadeki. I mean, it's two great weeks of golf. He's, um. Somebody said, uh, somebody said post round.

I forget who they were interviewing. They said that Hadecki knows more English than he lets on. And that's the way he sort of, yeah. Like I thought that was great on the, like an interview, he'd get nervous to say it wrong. Right. Like I talked to him. He'd be like, hey, how you doing? You know, what's going on?

All the average is good, that's the bottom. Which, you know, like KJ. I know KJ in my whole career. And it's like in the last couple of years, finally, I can talk to him now, like, in regular English. But for the first 10 years, it was no English of any kind. You play with these guys like, fuck, man. I'd like to talk to him, but there's nothing there. He's catty doesn't even speak English.

So, you know, but Hadecki now they're getting that way. But so it's actually, it's been a little, it's been nice to be able to talk to him. It's an interesting case. Hedecki's an interesting case of, like, I feel like his win is getting so much more popular in the days after he won. Like you're, you know, like the pictures of him with the green jacket, just like chilling in the airport,

people that's so endearing. People love that. the stories of him being incredibly humble, that all he cares about really is just like playing golf, practicing golf and hanging out with his family. And like even though in the moment, like he said, our darlings, or we bet on speed,

we bet on Zandah, we bet on Zal Taurus. Like we wanted these people to win. And we weren't necessarily rooting against Hedek, but you're rooting for a good tournament. So like when you make some mistake, you're kind of excited. Whereas now I think looking back,

you know, we're all, and even that clip, I was watching a clip today of the Japanese commentators that were literally like trying not to cry on the coverage. Exactly. because they're so, like, jacked up for him. And as a fan now, it makes me, like, I'm getting, it just, like, makes you feel like,

oh, man, that, like, I'm so happy that he won and I'm more happy almost now than I was in the real time as it happened. Yeah, no, I'm definitely, I'm definitely, I couldn't have been any happy for the guy, you know. You know, and what the hell of the gesture, you know, is caddy, you know, when the hell do you ever see a catty, put the stick in and then, and then take his head off and bow. That was awesome. The ultimate respect for August. national, you know, but that is the Japanese, that's Japanese culture. The respect, you know, it's actually most Asian culture I've been around, the respect that they have for elders

and, you know, places like Augusta and things like that, it's, I thought it was just fucking incredible. I really did. I thought it was unbelievable. You can see, kind of wanted to cry, takes his hat off, he, like, thought about it for a second, and then, you know, he gives his catty hug and walks off. There's no family there. There's nobody there. You know, obviously he has his group, his close group, they're with him every second of the day. And then the caddy puts the flag in it. It's just like, it's phenomenal.

It's so good for golf. It's so awesome, you know, the respect and just the humble. Like he just literally fucking walked off, went. You know, he kind of high five here and there, grabbed his shit and took off. I mean, it's like it was no big deal, you know? Yeah, Frank, Frank and I were saying he, like, first off, Frankie said he, like,

walked into the scoring house to enter a score with his putter was just kind of in shock. And then Wrigna were talking about, right. He said still got his putter walking all the way of the sport. Like, fucking we put that thing down now. It's done. But the moment truly hit him as he went up to the scoring hot, which like every step you felt like the gravity of the moment, hit him, hit him, hit him, hit him. Which was so cool to see.

But I honestly think the one image that I will remember probably from this year's Masters is his catty. And like that will be the one image that's burned in my brain about Hedek's. his caddy bowing to Augusta because of the way everybody thinks about Augusta. But then to show that and then obviously be within their culture is just like, yeah, that's a picture that we'll live forever. It's amazing. I can only imagine what, you know, he was already massive. You know, because the Japanese, I play with him all.

I play with Shingo and Shigeki, and then we had a Hideki Mats. Hedekhi, how was that last name? Hidimichi, Tanaka. We played with him back in like three and four. And then, you know, so I played with all the Japanese player to come up, obviously, you know, and then he got Ro. Ro was like, he was like fucking eldest and, you know, pick someone else, Michael Jackson to one for Japan. That was like their next hope of an incredible player who was.

But then now Hideki is literally going to be a god over there. I mean, because golf over there is so massive. We went over there for the Zozo last year. I'm hitting balls next to Tiger and we're talking this and that. Obviously there's, I mean, it couldn't be any more. And obviously they're watching him hit, not me. But just to look back and see, like, these people love the game beyond belief. It's just incredible.

Now it's going to happen with the Olympics and the fact that Hedeky's going to be there. I mean, the game is so loved in Asia. Korea is the same way. I couldn't be any happy with that country. It is such a great win for them. It was just awesome. See, I didn't watch much of it on Sunday, but I kind of went back and forth. I was doing a bunch of shit.

But, you know, especially when he had like a five or six-shot lead, there wasn't really much excitement. Then all of a sudden he made, you know, Zander was moving up and it was getting a little closer and I kind of watched the end of it, but it was so awesome to watch him. I couldn't have been truly any more excited or happy for him when he walked off making that putt and walking off because you could see

his face. He almost didn't know what to do. You know, like he was so overwhelmed by what was going on that he just, I guess he said, fuck it, I'm just going to bolt and I'm going to go and take my putter and we're going to go. And that's him. I mean, every time been around. He's so fucking kind of that way. It was, it was just incredible. It was awesome. New Amsterdam vodka is the official vodka of Barcelona of basketball. If you were wondering if we

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chip that all of us would just fuck up, right? And Faldo's saying you have to just can't be a hero here. You got to get this thing. Sure. Don't go for, right. So I was thinking like, the thing that we miss out on with Hedeky is we don't get that chatter between him and his caddy because they're in a different language. So like they're never going to mic them up for the, for the American viewers.

Like, is his caddy like involved in those as much as a guy like Greller is or like, I know how the Americans react with their caddies, interact with their caddies. I don't know how Hideki does. Like, is he taking that? Is he stepping him off being like, let's not be a hearing of heroes? I don't think there's not. It's not a lot of conversation there, is it? No, I think he takes charge.

He gets most of his job. Yeah, the caddy, it really is kind of like this, player cat. You know, and then it goes down the food team. But he helps him read puts. He does help him reputs, but he doesn't really, there's not a whole lot of, there's definitely no Greller in speed type of deal. Right. But there is a little bit.

There is a little bit, but Hadeki really knows what the hell he's doing. Okay. Who's providing this information from the clouds over there? No, I'm not, yeah. My cat, he ate. He's always, I'm always going to. Have him join. Get him over here.

I'm always getting my information from him all day. He babysits me all day. So, but, yeah, no, it's, he pretty much, every time we go, there's not a lot of talk. He plays. When he's ready to go, he's, like, ready. He gets over and he's gone. So. And that's even more impressive to, like, be able to do that and not have someone, like,

cool you down. a moment like that, like the biggest moment of his career right there, behind 15, like that chip was so impressive. He did exactly what the announcers said he had to do. To make that decision on your own, I mean, we don't know for sure, but you think on his own, that's fucking crazy to me. Well, I don't think he's ever, I don't think he's ever hit that chip before anyone. You know, he may never, ever hit that chip in his life, let alone while he's winning that

and he's got another caddy that's not, you know, hasn't been in that position with him. He's been, how many caddies have been through him? like four yeah we've obviously known them all but um i mean i know he had been that situation with him so he's not going to tell us hey make sure you don't try to hit that fucking high spinner you know and back it up back to the hole because that ain't going to happen you know both walked up i guess i didn't fucking watch it but um once again my information guy always has the information

which is the only reason i'm still out on tour I just think the whole thing was amazing. It's really unfortunate that Zander fucked up 16 as bad as he did because I think it would have been amazing to see kind of what would have happened. You know, would have, you know, would Hideki not three-punner or we have not kind of bailed out after watching Zander hit in the water? He'd been forced to go more towards the pen. You know, he sure is fucked, but Hideki would have never hit in that bunker with a wedge

on the last toll. I think his thinking was, don't hit it left, skull fuck it over the green, you know, make six and let's, you know, make it,

I think it was just kind of a play away from the pin and just kind of left the face open. Dude, talk to me about how difficult it is to close out a golf term, right? Like, you've won three times

on the PGA tour. Every week we watch these guys. This is the master, so it's obviously magnified, but every week, right? Like, the leader is clearly playing phenomenal golf. And then it seems like, every time like clockwork with three holes left or six holes left like things start to go south

and it's like hanging on and a lot of the times they do but sometimes they don't like what happens what is that like when you're like oh man because we heard joel like our boy joel a couple weeks ago said like it is so hard to win a call for it it is it is hard to win a carlton it is it is hard to especially if you especially if you've never done it you know because you don't know you've got shit going on your body that you've never felt in your life before and all you're trying to do is not fuck up. That's all you're trying to do is continue what you just did for 68 holes and trust and go, oh, fuck, you know, somebody's all just fucking pipe, you know, close to green, you know, whatever.

You're just, and then I'm saying like, oh, fuck, okay. So what was that swing that I had like 40 holes ago, you know? Is it still there? We're not going to, oh, fuck, do what? Oh, that, you know, you're like, just fucking do this. Now, you know, it all depends on how. really confident showing what you're doing. Now, if you're leaking oil,

if you've been leaking oil, kind of from the start, you know, you don't really know where your swing is. You don't trust what's going on. Then it's going to be really hard for you to close. But there's a guy that, you know, that's coming up the board,

always on a Sunday that's fucking feeling great, moving up the board, hasn't had a lot of attention maybe, and he's flying, and you're trying to hold on. Plus, it also depends who's chasing him. If you have a Xander or a speed, or, you know,

let's say even a fill, or guys that have won a million times. They're not afraid because the one, they're not playing for the fucking money. They got some with bread. They don't care about the money. They want to win that term because they know that means more bread. So, you know, it is hard to win. Like Joel, I mean, fuck, man, those conditions were so hard that Sunday, you know, coming in.

I mean, yeah, of course it's easy. We understand. But you can still hit it out. You know, the wind is pumping 25. One wrong shot and he doesn't win. It is hard to win. You know, it really is. But you've got to trust what you're doing.

And basically just kind of kind of say, fuck it. I got to go with what I've already known, what I'm doing, and hope that it just works out. Yeah. It's what it is. You just have to have that belief that it's going to work. Because we talk, right? Like the closest we get is like first T jitters to that kind of because we're

never going to be leading a golf thing. The closest you guys making that fucking putt to beat me when I got fucked up here. Which, by the way, I hear about all the time. Man, you got so fucked on that lip out and go, I know. I know. I still can't believe it at the match ended that way. Like, you couldn't script it any better for us. I mean, obviously a devastating loss for you.

But that is quite an ending to that now. That was actually so fun. We got to figure out when we're going to do it again because that was a fucking awesome day. We got to do it again for sure. Absolutely. We did say to ourselves, like, when you lip that out, we said, like, before we even made our put, we're like, I can't believe it ended this perfectly.

And then we were like, we got to chill out. Like, we got to make. It was crazy. How the fuck you guys had three feet up the hill. after the other three were in the out of play. I mean, once again, out of play. That shot Lurchet.

I mean, that's unbelievable. That's got to be one of the best shots you've ever hit in your life. Into the sun, like, we couldn't even see where the ball was going. There was that bonker. That shot was better than... I think it's good, but I just don't know. That shot was better to Corey Conner's home of one.

I can promise you that right now. He is the moment. Match on the line. Unbelievable. Damn, that pissing me off still thinking about it. But it was a luck. Where would we play when we do rematch? Well, next time we're doing it.

It's so late. We're doing it my course. I'm setting the fucker up and we're going to do it the right way. That's a man's set out for blood right there. We're doing it my way. I got the pins already set up. The greens are going to be cut. It's going to be more of what you see on tour.

What's the first thing you do when you get to a new location? Are you like going straight to stock up the house? Does someone do that for you? Are you getting involved in a lot? Yeah, we do it all. Me and I used to it all. God, we got so fucked last night. Yesterday, my flight, I got a text right before I went to dinner at the bed,

that the flight was delayed. So I had to rearrange my ride this now. And then I got another one. I got to take a piss at like 1 o'clock, and the fucking plane was delayed again. So now I called, I'm laying on my carpet in my bathroom, and I'll wake up my wife. laying the phones on the fucking ground like this

so I can hear the noise, the music until someone picked up. 30 minutes in, then I get the email saying I've been rebooked. So we were supposed to leave at 7.25, left at 10.35. Got to Atlanta. Sat in Atlanta for six hours.

Got here 11.30 last night. Got up at, you know, 7.30 this morning after I fall asleep about 2.30. And went to take my test, you know, the fucking COVID test, and then played nine holes. I feel it. And then we went to the store and I feel dead. So, fuck.

That's a normal, that's not a normal Monday, but a horrible Monday on top of it. But, you know, I've been to these courses for, you know, so long now, 19 years. You're basically just kind of figuring. I can see what's going on. I can see what's going to get there. Short grass on the greens. Greens are like concrete. Wind's going to swirl.

So you know what's going to happen. You know, balls are going to balance. Green's going to be fast. Got to be the right spots. Got to drive it well. Of course, it's in mint shape. But everywhere we go, you can kind of see what you're looking at before you get there. Because it also depends on the winter.

is the winds the weather if it's warm if it's warm and windy here the place is going to play like concrete which i like i like it i like the course it's harder because you got to hit you know more shots you got to know what the hell you're doing and you can't just fly and stop the way it is i like it a little farmer you know i was talking to shan larry about today it's the same thing he likes the same kind of condition so this course is awesome it's not one of the longest ones but it's one of the hardest ones because the greens are like this the greens are tiny if you miss the greens it's a hard up and down, especially with the greens being this firm. So, but every, every spot's kind of the same way.

I kind of have an idea of what's going to happen when I get there. You know, I always check the weather, see what's going to happen. You know, I ask around, hey, you know, what's it look like? You know, is it green? Is it dead? Is it, you know, whatever? So that kind of gives me a picture of what I do. And then, you know, you kind of feel it on on Tuesday and Wednesday,

and by the time Thursday comes around. It's, you know, it's just second nature. So you guys, you guys all cool with sharing information with each other. Like, if you see a guy in the locker or whatever, you let them know what you see, or do you keep some stuff close to the shot? Nah, fuck, I mean, you still got to hit the shots. I mean, it's not like, you know, it's not, you know, like I said, I get along with everybody out here.

So it's, I don't have any enemies out here. I feel like I, you know, I'm sure that a lot of them don't like me anyway. But, I mean, I feel like I get along with everybody. But, you know, it's not like I talk to everybody. But, you know, the guys I know well, like the Lowrys, the Poulters, the DJs. So, you know, I was going to play a DJ today, but we're on opposite sides in the pro-am. So he had to play the back guy to play the front. So I always loved.

playing with, you know, I always love playing with the, you know, the big players. I love watch and see what they do. And, you know, it always kind of motivates me to play better. So how much, can we talk to, can we talk to about Ian Polter for a second? I mean, you're a buddy of him. These guys, Riggs and Trent specifically, I've had quite the history with Ian Polter. I mean, he's blocked people on Twitter and Instagram. He said he's never going to do the show.

I find him to be one of the funniest people on the planet because he's so, he's so, like in your face like with his outfit his his ridiculous ridiculous takes on things him in front of his his his Lamborghini was it was a Ferrari

his Ferrari pictures sorry his Ferrari pictures he'll kill you exactly well that's definitely we're going to use that be like tell us about his Lamborghini tell us that those lamboes if we get him on this show

the first question we're going to ask him is like tell us about that Lamborghini collection I'll tell you real funny sort before we get to that. So my partner, Michael Lund, he started Pandora Jewry at when we play Pebble. He's worth of fucking fortune. He could drop every Ferrari wanted and every state

across the fucking nation and not even blink an eye at. Anyway, Pulitzer was showing me a couple of new cars that he just bought. And Michael comes in, he's like 6'6. He's up here. And he goes, is that the new Porsche? And he fucking looked back at him with these goddamn eyes like there. Porsche? Are you fucking kidding me? I go again.

The guy can buy the whole fucking company if you wanted to, it doesn't matter. But it was funny. He did not insult him by fucking Porse or Lamborghini especially, because he has a couple, he has a Porsche. But it was fucking funny. But, no, Pultz is, I don't know, I've got along

with Pultz forever because I think because we're both kind of outspoken. We're kind of, you know, we're kind of similar in a lot of ways. Not similar in a lot of ways, but I mean, Pulse has been, he's been a friend of mine forever. But I can see where people go on both sides of them. I can see how people don't like him. Some people love him. Some people don't. You know, he's kind of loud with the clothes.

But at least he's his own self. And he's fucking consistent. You know, he's consistent. If you're looking at it from a vantage point of you want to see characters in the game of golf, which we always do. That's why we think Bryce is so interesting, all these guys. Then I understand enjoying Polter, but there's just some things about him. I think we had some things in the past where he was complaining about his Ferrari delivery was late. And he was yelling about it on Twitter. like that's just not a guy at least from the outside you're gonna be like this is a crazy

he like wanted to get the guy fired and I think he might have the guy fired and you're like what the fuck the public does not want to hear that because they don't have that fucking problem they don't have they don't get it was like Phil it was like Phil

you know we were at the Madison Club out there and he's in his fucking robe drinking sober old at this you know unbelievable place and he's bitching in the media by his fucking taxes right I said, you make $55 million a year, you fucking live in, you have all your property and you've lived in California, your whole fucking life, you're the fucking idiot for living there. Okay.

Why do you feel like you need to pay all that tax living there? And if you are going to do it, fine. I grew up in San Diego. I think it's a fun greatest place in the world. But if you don't want to pay heavy taxes, don't live there. But as sure as fuck, the media guy who's making, you know, whatever the fuck he's making a year, doesn't want to hear your body. your $20 million fucking tax problem. Okay?

So you're not going to get any sympathy there, and he didn't. And that was one of the kind of times that they went after a little bit. You know, but that, yeah, people don't want to hear much Ferrari problems, especially when you got 20. I want to be on the record. I love Ian Poulter, and I want him on the show. I think he's hilarious. I want him on the show. I want him.

I'm playing with him on Thursday, Friday. Pat, you have no idea how big that show would be for us. Like this is like a, this is like a six year rivalry. I mean, I think it's kidding me. I'll talk. I think it dates before the podcast. Like, like Trent has hated him before the podcast was even a thing. Like he just, yeah, he just rubs me the wrong way.

For all the reasons that we're talking about. It's just, it hasn't been going on for a while. But I want to be on the record as well. I want him on the show. That would be an amazing show. I mean, I love, I love Poles. He's, he's, he's fucking. I think he's fantastic.

He's been great to me in my whole life. And, you know, he's been, he's been kind. And he's just, he's fucking. because he's raw. He's like me. He's in, you know, he's kind of fucking loud and that's about, but you know what the fuck you're going to get. Yeah. You know what you're getting.

There's no bullshit with him and, you know, I think it's fun. Great. We always have a great time we play and hang out or talk or whatever, but yeah, I can see where most Americans get rubbed the wrong way. Yeah, we just don't like him. Like, there's no, there's no doubt, like, we've, we've had this before with the guys. And if he came on the show, and I'm not going in being like, there's no, like, we're, we're, we're just definitely going to like him.

But I think there's a good chance if he came on the show and we chatted and we went through some of the stuff and we went back and forth and we chirped each other. That he would probably come off very positively and we would like that. And that show with visors

and spiky hair and a heart of that. Exactly. Like you here. Based on like what we're watching, it's like I just don't fucking like the guys bitching like you said about like champagne problems. He's clearly like Mr. Team Euro.

So that always plays into it. And I just haven't liked the guy. See, he's the opposite of me. He's on. he's on that Instagram all fucking day. Like he wants everybody to know what he's doing all the time. I'm just not that way. I'm going to put out a stupid fucking video

or some guy, you know, falling off a motorcycle or whatever the hell it is. And I don't need, people don't need to know what the fuck I'm doing every minute of the day. You know, it's just like, I don't know. That's just not my thing,

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I actually, I love Billy. And I told him the day, I'm like, you know, I get it. I mean, the fucking guy gets mad. I mean, no one gets madder. No one got madder than I did back in the day. No one. You know, and I know. And I know that he gets mad, but he really fucking wants to play well.

And I know that, you know, it. Yeah, but like, do you not really want to play well? No, everybody does. See, the thing about like back in the day, like when Tiger used to get fucking pissed and cuss and throws shit, that said, the media's excuse was, well, he wants to win. Well, no fucking shit he wants to win. You know, I understand. Everybody wants to win, but when another guy does it and he's shitty, oh, he has a temper problem.

You know, he has an attitude problem. You know, when Tiger did, he fucking got away with everything. Because, oh, well, he's winning and he wants to win. Well, fuck, you know he wants to win. Everybody wants to win. Billy can be, Billy, I promise you, misunderstood. That kid, he's fucking, not a kid, but he's, I like Billy a lot. I've got one of them great.

I think he's phenomenal. He gets mad. Fuck, he gets mad. He's passionate about, he couldn't be any more passionate about what he does. He just gets a little more upset. Like when Rahm does it, oh, well, you know, he's got passion. He's got passionate. He's passionate because he's fucking number three in the world, and you can't beat him up.

You know? I will say we've called Rahma psycho as well. We've called time bomb, I think. Usually around the Masters, after he blows up on the 15th, it feels like every year or so. Yeah. Billy's fucking awesome. I can tell you right now. Billy's great.

He's passionate about what he does. He works as fucking hard as anybody there is on the planet at his craft. And he wants to be great. He's always out there doing the same thing every day, same drills, same action. and fuck he gets man on the course, you know? It's, it is what it is. You know, I appreciate you coming on here defending him. You did your part, but they're still part of me that thinks he's just a little bit more than everybody else that we've mentioned.

Just like a little bit more. I'm not excusing it. You know, some of the accident you. I'm not excused. I'm just talking about my man's point. I can see it. I see both sides. I'm always a both sides guy, not just fucking one way.

How did that conversation come up? Was he like these guys are killing me? Like how did they fucking killed me or something like what the hell he's saying Because those guys don't like me They never they never liked me from the start I go well fuck I'll see what happened you know We'll see what's going on because they they've been starting attention everything Because they've been attacked with the

Did you guys ask him to go on the show? We've tweeted out before and said like we'd love to have you on the show To discuss it but it started Those guys fucking hate me because I won't do their show or whatever it is I go fucking go do their show that I said true That is the best answer true But it started with Chambers Bay when he was bitching about the greens.

I think that just put in a lot of people's minds. He did this little move when his ball, like, you know, didn't go where he wanted it to go. I think a lot of people's minds that put a bad taste in their mouth. And then when you see a few clips pop up of him looking like a psychopath in the golf course, it just rubbed some people the wrong way. Now, I will say that like, you know, I tweet, I responded to a tweet about like that clip of him slam at his clubs and very much said, like, I've done something like this before too. Like people get mad on the golf course, clearly.

but I just think like over time, over five years of us doing this shit now, it's like it seems like every week with the guy just doing something that comes off very unlikely. No, I'm with you. I'm not really getting offended, obviously, but, you know, because I used to get maddened and fuck. And now I just, I don't get that mad anymore. He flipped off the flags. Did you see that one? He did?

No, I didn't see that. I got tweeted at it. At one point, he missed the punt, and he's going, fuck you. And it's just like, great. Yeah, I actually find that shit hilarious. I don't even get upset about it. Here's my thing, though. When a guy gets mad, oh, so I've got a fucking bet.

I had a bet with Steve Wil. I don't know if you guys saw that whole thing with, like, the putter deal. And they thought it was my putter, right? Because this fucking asshole, he broke four clubs last week, or two weeks ago, San Antonio. He breaks his putter on Thursday. His caddy is coming over here. Ranch, I've known him my whole life. He waits for me after we get done on 18.

He's like, hey, bro, you got any putters? I got, I got like 10 of them up there. working on him, this and that, he goes, all right, let me have him. Fucking guy beats me. He finished like 23rd. Fucking beats me that week. Then, Seiru, I seen him in the party, was, can I bring you a putter to Augusta? I go, yeah, don't fucking break it. I said, don't be an asshole like you are and fucking break it anyway.

So he does that shit on 15, and the world goes crazy. I was like, hey, broken putter, fucking that, that. It wasn't my putter he was using. So the media, you know, Scott Van Pelt, and everybody starts calling me like, hey, man, you know, fuck was your putter i go no i said but all i know is he has my other one is a backup the one i won mexico with one i won my kova i was trying to get back into i used it for a little bit and and i sent him that fucking uh i message on his instagram like don't break my fucking putter so Travis from pj memes put it up and everybody went crazy you know they're like oh

fuck you broke your putter i go now he knows better to do that because i've already threatened him on that but anyway so we have a bet now we had a bet i said If you don't break him, I said, I'll bet you $100,000. If you don't fucking break another club the rest of the year. There's no way he holds on. I bet you. I'm like, there's no fucking chance you can't bring another club. So I asked his cataly.

I'm like, how many is he broken? He's got up with him a year and a half. He's broken 50. What? They're like two picks. Yeah. I'm like, look, I'm not going to take you 100 grand because there's too easy money. I said, I know it's going to happen.

So whoever fucking. wins, whoever loses takes the winner to fucking unbelievable dinner, and that's going to be it. Yeah. Which will be going to probably, I'm going to get that 100 grand worth of fucking dinner. So,

he's going to win. He goes, I make promise to myself, I'm not doing it again. I go, who the fuck you think you're talking to? And I go, you're the worst.

I said, of course you're going to break another club. Craig, you might not make it through today without one. He has a funny kid. I see, well, he's funnier.

and shit, he's like that's another one. You talk about getting mad. That fucking gets mad. But he is so good though. He is, I mean, but think about it, this fucking guy was Bernie 16 with a three one. You know, he almost made that put.

How the hell do you get in your 400 or you break a club in Augusta? It's never happened. What is it about golf? Golf is famous for just clips and moments of people just getting so... Because it's a fucking miserable game. It's fucking horrible game. It's fucking hard.

hardest shit. And it just drives you fucking crazy. It just drives you nuts. I mean, I'm doing this shit my whole life. You know, the day I don't get to do anymore is going to be a fucking great day.

Sports in general just make people ridiculously mad. You think about anything. Fucking hockey, John Scott on the island has tried to kill someone on the Rangers. He took a stick to the guy's neck. You get baseball.

Guys are snapping baseball bats over their knee. They're charging the mound to literally, I mean, Bryce Harper charged the mound. Yeah, charge the mound. He tried to kill someone. football they're getting in fights every single snap i mean how it's crazy so i mean that's just what sports does ron our test is running into this fucking stand of course he is so that's just what it is man it just gets to you it's kind of what's crazy though is then those other ones you get mad at someone

else and the other things you're mad at someone else and golf you're just so pissed off like you're charged the mountain because you fucking hate that guy you go into the stands because you fucking hate those fans and golf you're just like you're just so mad at like yourself you like crazy i don't know I've been so mad that I haven't even fucking believed that I was that mad because you're like, you just can't get over the fact that something like that just happened in front of you. And you got to literally suck on it. What's the most mad you've ever been on a golf course?

What's the most like out of control you've gotten? Kevin, in 02. When I hit that fucker out of bounds, I had to walk back to that tee, then hit it, then hitting the fucking water, tried to snap the three wood. And I was so mad that I couldn't actually snap the three wood, walked up, made seven, finished second, made four hundred. $132,000 as a 24-year-old, and I was maddered and fuck. I love that you went right to it.

I know exactly when I was living on a golf. Because people bring up all the time, but it is what it is. I mean, I had a chance. I had a one-shot lead on the T. And if I win, you know, I win at 24 years old, and it was like, fuck, it was going to be unbelievable. It was going to set me to, you know. But, okay, it wasn't meant to me.

But, you know, I've gotten mad some of the times I can't count of me. But this game will do it to you. I mean, you know, you just go out to your fucking public joint and see how mad people get. And they suck. They have no reason to get mad. They're not playing for anything and they get mad. You're not playing for anything and they get mad. You just, everybody's hitting a, like, a good shot in their life.

So the fact that you can't do it when you need it sometimes is just, every time. That's where it boils people down. It's like, I think one of the things that's most frustrating golf is like, you should make a four foot putt, but you don't always. And when you don't, it's like, now why? Why in that moment did I not hit it right? Like I can hit a drive that, like, draws down the middle and it looks perfect. And I feel like I'm doing the same swing, but if you took a photo of me, it looked like I was speaking a different language.

And that is the point of golf that makes me, like, that makes everybody, I think, go inside and just ask so many questions of the world. They question everything when it goes wrong, like everything. The best part is when you play, I play with all these other athletes from all these other sports. I'm talking incredible looking thoroughbreds fucking kind of guys. Perfect shape. I'm like, and they get so pissed. They're like, the fucking ball is just sitting there. It's just sitting there waiting to be hit.

And they can't hit it where they go. And they get so pissed. Like, how hard can it be? You know, the ball's just sitting there. It's not being thrown at me. I got no one tackling me. I got no one fucking coming after me. All I get is hit down the fair way and they can't do it.

It drives them crazy. Dude, it's infuriate. Like, look, I got this from kids on Friday night. Just this, just this text from kids. And it's like, you know, that fucking C-Woos? It's such a cool, calm customer out there. It doesn't seem much.

And he's just going back to the truck and just breaking his putter in half. And it's just so, like, I, you know, we all think, like, when you hit one so bad and you're just like, how did that just have? How can you be that bad? You just say that to yourself. Like, how is it possible that you can be that bad? Fucking, what was it? Fuck. What the fuck that make seven on that?

18th Hulk. San Antonio. Is that two years ago? 18. See? No, it's right away. The fucking cloud. My human cloud.

I've got 2018. I'm fucking on the tee. It's San Antonio 18. It's a par five. Thinking about making four, right? Move it up. Make seven. Fucking seven.

It happened so fast. Miss the cup I won. Go get my shit in the hotel. Get on the fucking southwest. Back of the plane. And I'm sitting there thinking going, what the fuck just happened? Like three hours ago,

I was doing nice. I was fucking nice, like three hours ago. Here I am sitting the goddamn back of the bus, Southwest, paid for overweight fucking bags, get a pack of peanuts in a shitty water, and I'm going home. You just sit there going, the golfer has so much time to think about, like,

what's going on? You play for what, four and a half hours? You have the rest of the day and the rest of the time to figure out how you fucked it up. And it's like, you do everything you can to do it, and I'm telling you, man, after this, after this long of doing it, it's like, I don't know, it's just, it's incredible. It's, it's fun, but the glory of what everybody thinks it is, this glorious, fucking incredible type of deal. When you grind it out your ass and barely made the cut and grind it out and you fucking finish 50th, it ain't that glorious.

Now, everyone sees like Hadecki winning the trophy or, you know, DJ winning the Masters in the FedExup. It's fucking great, you know. But those, there doesn't happen. everybody. You know, you're like, oh, my God, look how easy golf it. It ain't easy. You know, it's not going to sit back with a bottle of red every once in a while. Oh, I did not die.

Once in a while, how about every day? Now it's everything. It's got to be the hardest sport in all sports to make money at, right? Well, yeah, because you have, don't get me wrong. You get some sponsorship and shit like that, but it ain't like fucking Kyrie Irving making $440,000 of nights. You don't play basketball. Where he doesn't have to perform from that.

He doesn't have to fucking do anything. He's got four other. He's got 11 other guys that will help him out if he's off, you know, or whatever it is. They don't get wrong. Phenomenal play. I'm just using him to the example. No, but his salary is, like, guaranteed, too. It's like he doesn't.

It's 100% guarantee. It goes out there and has a shitty night that doesn't change anything. If you go out and have a shitty round, like, you don't make any of it. No. What is the only sport where you can literally go from making a dime, and then all of a sudden, you three-pucked the last hole, you missed a fucking cut and you're out money now. You know, if I had, if I had fucking, if you knew you're going to finish, if money didn't matter, let's say golf played and there was no money that matter.

You would see a lot different shit going on on the course. You'd see way more risk than reward. You know, a guy goes out and he shoots fucking three for 40. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, Kevin Durant, he's money. We know that. But those guys don't look at it in the form of money wants.

They've already been paid. I mean, fucking Giannis, what he signed? five years, 240 or something, fuck me, what are you going to worry about? There's nothing to worry about. Now you're just fucking soon,

and it don't matter. It doesn't matter anymore, you know? You just shoot that. You see it in football all the time. The last game of the season, guys need to hit their thresholds. Exactly.

And Tom Brady will just be feeding like Mike Evans, like five touchdown so he can get that crazy $10 million dollar bonus. It's like, all right, well, if that was, that's golf, right? Like, you need to perform that day

to make that money every single day. So I mean, I commend you guys for being able to make a fucking career out of it. Because, like, at some point, you are the best at your sport, just like the other guys. They just happen to be in a sport in which once you get there, they get guaranteed salaries. You guys get there. And now, like you're saying, you could play every week and week out and owe money. That's like, no one can even, like, comprehend that. No, I mean, it's, you know, once you get to the team sports, you're having a guy believe in you.

You know, and once he believes in you, he's going to pay your ass, right? I'm not going to name him. We have a guy that's so relieved that played at ASU. And he's a friend of mine. And he played, he got signed by a team. And this fucking guy has made more than my career money. And he's played like 12 games. And he got signed for this massive contract.

He's like 28. Now he's out of the game. And he's made a fortune because somebody believed that he can do it. And it's like, fuck, I've been doing this shit 20 years. And, you know, I've made. every dime on my own. Not to anybody believed it or not. I had to hit every fucking shot to do it.

That's why I love golf. It's such an honest limit. Like Tiger made every fucking dime. It actually was underpaid. The guy should be worth $5 billion for what he did for the fucking game. He really should be. He really should be fucking worth $5, $10 billion for what he did. But, you know, and that's the thing.

If he would have been in any other sport, he would have signed. punchbacks became fucking popular. Totally. He was making $125 anyway a year. He was the highest guy, but if it was another sport, he'd make him fucking $250, $500 a year, which he would have deserved every penny of it because, you know, other than like a Jordan or him or a Gretzky, there's just,

there's not many names to go past that where a guy has done what the fuck he's done for a sport. I mean, really, I mean, and unfortunately. Yeah, there's almost, there's like no sport where you couldn't very, very, easily lose money at pretty close to the highest or the highest level, right? Well, nobody's out of pocket. Legit. Right.

But you can go like weeks where you're buying, you know, you rent the house, you travel there, you pay your caddy, you pay your team. And you could lose tens of thousands of dollars over a couple months. I had a friend of mine. I had a friend of mine. When the hell that guy gets his card? Myardarders. Ten years ago.

This fucking kid, he was okay. I got to know him a little bit. This kid got his card. He was so excited. Got through Q school the whole thing. This fucking made. $22,000 that year. The whole year.

Yeah. He's fucking out. He's out of $100 grand. What other major sport? We got NASCAR, NFL, MLB, NHL, and us. So you got six major sports. Nobody's fucking out of money in those other sports. Nobody.

Nobody. You think any, you think fucking Denny Hamlin's out of money? If he doesn't finish the race, it's like he owes the owner fucking 200 grand for the car, you know, anything like that. You know, it's like, it's hard, man. It is a stressful, long life, but I commend every golfer that does well

because they earn every fucking penny of it. And that says something. They earn every penny. You get these, you know, like, you know, I mean, I think pool host is phenomenal. Don't get me wrong. But is he worth fucking $25 million this year? Probably not.

You know? They throw money at guys. Free market. It's like a 10-year deal. Legacy contracts. It's just like, you know, deal for $2.50. That'd be like throwing fucking Jack Nicholas, you know,

$35 million this year because of the shitty one back in the 80s. I mean, you know, it's just, it's I mean, Jack was, you know, arguably the, arguably the best. It is what it is, but you know, these guys fucking pay these guys. I mean, the Stanton, 13 year contracts.

I mean, how the hell do you know what a guy's going to do 13 years from the day fucking science? Islander signed, that's one of my worst contract of all the time. We signed a goalie to a 15-year deal. Ricky Pietro, he played like, I don't know, 60 games of a 15-year deal, never played again. His hips were done, his knees were done, it was over.

They had to buy them out. They're still paying them to this day. I don't understand how these owners and these lead. I don't know how the hell they can, I don't know how they pull it off. If you had, if you had to redo team contract, team player contracts every year, you'd see a hell of a lot different playing, I think. Oh, yeah. A lot different, you know.

we get hurt, we're fucking out. We get a disability thing for the tour for 10 grand a month. These guys, they get fucking hurt. They're still making their, you know, A-Rob was making $2.2 million a month. Baseball is the crazy one. Baseball is the crazy one, because as soon as you sign it as a baseball player,

it's yours. It's all guaranteed money. I would go break my leg and go fucking hang on the beach for a couple years. Right. Now, I'm sure there's people listening to being like, well, there's like five levels of minor league baseball and it's an absolute grind. guys are in buses, but also that's the corn fairy

to it. We're talking about, we're talking about the highest level. Pat Perez is a fucking best, one of the best golfers in the world, and he's talking about these struggles that guys go through on his level. That's not even comparable. The only thing I could say is maybe comparable, but not even, is like a practice

squad guy in the NFL where like day in and day out their bodies are getting absolutely fucking brutalized and then one day they can just get dropped and like all their money's gone. It's not guaranteed in the NFL. So like you twist a fucking ankle you just bought this house last year, you're done, you're done, pal.

You're back living with your parents. Like one year you're doing this, the next year you're fucking fixing cars. That's the only thing I would say is somewhat comparable, is like an injury on like a low-level NFL player. But still, it's low-level. Yeah, the NFL is literally like,

what have you done for me lately? That's it. Right. It's amazing. And that's the other thing that sucks about a team sport like that is that you can't actually get cut. We can't get cut until we've actually played

the entire season. Like, we have the ability to at least go. the whole season and actually give it our best. And if you don't make, you don't make it. But you can't get cut like in October going, yeah, man, you said fucking 80 last week. Fuck off.

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The Sim 2 sounds like you hit the best drive you've ever hit every single time that you hit it. They're incredible. You know what's also exciting is that people keep sending us pictures. They're getting their irons. They're getting their wood. They're getting all these things. and I'm just excited for them to know what the feeling is like.

When we get pictures that feels like daily of people being like, my clubs are finally here. And then I want to hear what they say afterwards because I know that they're just going to have the best day on a golf course that they've ever had. Yeah, it's just something that you're not used to in golf where you feel like the clubs are doing the work for you. And I just had a buddy who just got new tailor maids. He just played golf today.

And he texted me. He's like, man, like, I gave him a little tip because I'm able to give tips with my game. And I'm like, dude, you just went way too hard. which is probably one of my things too, but I'm like, dude, these clubs will do the work for you. And he said today he shot like an 81,

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pretty much impossible unless you're lurch which is a whole other issue but But anyway, the Taylormade, you go to Barstall Sports.com slash Taylor Made. Check out our landing page. Get yourself involved, become a Taylor Made athlete. What, like, at what point in tournaments do you start thinking about the money? Right. Like, obviously, every time you tee it up, you want to win and you've won three times. But, like, there's got to be a point in the weekend, Saturday, Sunday, whenever it is,

when you're like, all right, Pat, let's make some fucking coin here. Well, definitely Saturday morning, like, before I chew off. It's not really the money. it's like let's get fucking far up the board as we can. You know, the only real tournament that I've ever kind of thought about not fucking up the money was at Pebble a couple years ago. Like, you know, I couldn't win the tournament. I've never really hit a good shot off 18, you know, in the past. So I hit a fucking iron off the team.

We were win. It was a year of me and my partner won in 15. And the win was, the win was in. I couldn't get there anyway. So I hit an iron off the tee. And then I hit another iron down there. I tried to make four. I had a little iron.

try to make four and kind of move up maybe the third. But if I made boge, it's going to cost me a fucking, you know, 100 plus, whatever. And so my partner, he didn't really understand. I was like, why the hell do you have three out of the team? I go, well, you know, I know you spend 100,000 every time you fly, but that's not, you know, for me it's a lot of money.

I couldn't win the tournament. I couldn't get there in two, so it wasn't worth the gamble of even hitting driver, hitting the shit over there, making fucking seven, and cost myself 150 grand. right so I try to go that fashion way he's like oh yeah I get that I was wondering if he was like you should have told me

I would have just floated you the hundred gram and we would have been fine I wouldn't see you go for you can fucking drop 100 grand every four seconds not even blinking eye out that's what I love that because we you know like we on Twitter will be like that pot just cost that guy 80 grand yeah I mean 50 gram when it gets late and so for you like genuinely playing to a degree of like all right this is just smart right This is money.

Money is our system. That's how we keep score in life. It's like money. You got to have money. But it's not all the time because like Tommy Armour told me, he told me 20 years ago. And it's the fucking truest statement of anybody, any argument that anyone fucking talks about of what it cost him, right? It didn't cost him shit.

They don't fucking pay him until you're done. Okay. So the fact of the guy bogey the last hole, it didn't cost him shit. the triple that he made on fucking six on Friday cost him more than it cost the last hole on Sunday. They don't pay it until the end. And that is the truest thing that's ever been. Lee Jansen told me in 02.

He said, you are going to leave way more money on the course than you're ever going to make. He goes, everybody is going to fuck up and it costs themselves this and this and this and this. everybody's going to have that $100 million a year or $100 million fucking career but they only made this. And it's true.

You know, it's true. But, you know, Tommy said they don't pay it till the end. It didn't cost you shit. It's not like they gave you $350, $350,000 in 18T and said, well, if you make fucking these numbers, this is what you're going to do. You know, so, you know, I kind of look at it that way. You know, I look at it, well, fuck I can, you know,

if I make birdie, I could, make another or if I make, you know, whatever, but I don't really look at it because you're always trying to do your best, but I always look back, well, fuck, I have 3.14 from five feet, you know, that cost me more than anything. Those are shots I can't get back, so that cost me. But everybody does. It's like, it was like Xander said, you know, what if you didn't hit the water on 16? Well, I did. If I did hit him on sick. I hid the water. So it is what it is. They all count. Every fucking shot counts. The first drive on Thursday counts the last put on Sunday.

And there's O-Bs and there's water hazards and all kinds of shit that go on. Then if nobody had them, everybody would be tied in like $4,500. We talk about making the broadcast a better experience. I mean, the fact that they wait until 3 o'clock to show it on national TV. It's embarrassing. I hate to say anything bad about

Augusta, but it's so fucking bad they wait until 3 o'clock. It's an absolute fucking joke. But like, we always say getting the payouts on screen would be really fun for the viewer. I mean, thankfully, ESPN does it. The ESPN does a nice job with that. They put them out pretty fast, but I don't know why the fuck. They wait till three o'clock. I mean, you have so many groups that are done.

And the leaders teed off before, right? The leaders teed off before fucking broadcast. Yeah. It's true. Unless they're making more money off the app than they would off like national. That's not true. That can't be true. That just... The app is free. I know. I know. The app is free. The app's free. I don't know that they're making, like...

We're not making shit. You know, I saw it. They don't even have ads on there. Did you guys see that guy on Instagram the other day that was talking about why CBS does the coverage for free? When they could make like, CBS should be making like $200 million off the thing. And they're making nothing. But they'd rather do it for free than not have the coverage at all. Because they've only got those three sponsors.

It's the same three sponsors all the time. Mercedes, AT&T, what the fuck's the other way? IBM? IBM? Yeah. IBM. Yeah, those three pay, but CBS gets none of it. Augusta's got it, they've got the whole thing covered.

CBS does it for free. That's unbelievable. And the app is free. But it sucks that you can watch these guys teed off. Like, fuck, these guys teed off at, what, 540 or something like that, my time, or our time in Arizona. And you can watch it all day. But you've got to wait, you know, East Coast. You've got to wait until 3 o'clock.

It's unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, you can get, obviously, people, you know, the app, they've done a great job with the app, but like when we were, you know, we were betting on it, right? We're betting on like a fairway hit or not, and you, like, can't watch the guy in real time. You got to wait until you get lucky any funnels through your My Group app or whatever. It's like, put the coverage on. It's crazy.

Of any tournament in the world, that coverage almost show every shot. You know? Yes. That is the greatest tournament on the planet. Everybody knows that. Everybody is more excited about that. tournament than anything times a million. Why in the hell?

Thankfully, when the West Coast it comes out at noon, you know, I only have to wait a little bit to come on. But for everybody else, like, what the fuck do you just hold 3 o'clock? Imagine if the Super Bowl, like, the first quarter of the Super Bowl just wasn't on TV. Yeah. That's what I can't. I can't figure it out. I fucking cannot figure it out.

And everyone's waiting all day. Hedecki, like, missed the fairway on his first T-Shine. Everyone's going crazy. And, like, most people didn't see that. Like, you don't know what's going on. I don't get it, man. I thought for sure it would change, like, soon, but it just has not fucking changed.

I cannot figure out why does it come on minimum. 12 o'clock Eastern. Just show the whole fucking day. Just show the whole day. What's the difference? CBS doing for free anyway. Right. If I can say, you know what, CBS?

We're going to give you a 50 million. Start it at fucking 9 Eastern. We don't need to see the first guys. Let's start 9 Eastern. Pat, how's your game right now? You've been grinding and get ready for? I've been driving my ass off. I've been riding my ass off.

I haven't seen many, you know, much results, but fuck, man, I've worked harder than ever. But, you know, you work, you work, you work. And hopefully you see something going. But, you know, it's not, I'm not, not playing well because I'm not working, you know. But, hey. What is it like bringing it, bringing it from, like, range to the. No, fuck, I hit a lot of good shots. I'm just, I'm just literally not getting the bone in the hole as fast as I want to.

I'm just kind of like. I'm hitting it nice. I'm just not fucking scoring for some reason. It's been a long time since I've been in this kind of funk where I thought I'd have playing well and just not playing well. This is the worst I've been on the FedEx in my life since it started in 07 at this point in time. I've never been this low ever. I've always had my card sewn up easily by now at this point.

I just don't have it yet. But, you know. Then you're doing. It's time. Yeah. Yeah, no. You keep believing, you keep working, and, you know, it comes or doesn't, you know, so, I mean, people have gone through dry spells before.

I'm going through one now, but you keep believing, you keep doing, and you fucking keep grinding. It's all you can do. All right? Who all is your team? You obviously got your caddy. Like, who swing coaches? The caddy and Drew? Your team.

Drew Steckle and Mike Hartford, my boy from high school. My caddy He's with me since 1990 He caddy for me And he's carried me Just about every year since 1990 At some point or another I used to work for him

I've got a staff that no one has out here He held a He owned a landscaping business in high school And I used to work for him I made five bucks an hour His hourly rate Yeah, his hourly rates Much higher in mine

But No one ever tried to poach him away from you? He worked for Danny Lee for a minute. He couldn't get out there fast enough, thank God. But when I had surgery, when I had surgery, I told him I said, you got to go fucking work for a minute. I'm going to be off for like seven months. So he

went to work for him, but no, most loyalist motherfucker there is. He's like family, obviously, but that's kind of my crew. Drew's the same way. You know, Ashley loves both of them. And we create a family atmosphere. They're not, they're not employees,

they're not staff, not fucking go family. you know we just we keep fucking grinding you know we that's what we do and we're all on this together and we all fucking succeed together or we don't together that's just the way it is so who do you got for um practice round tomorrow wednesday got pro ham or i guess it's pro i got pro ham at 3 37 pm off number 10 feels late it's late so we got six balls of wine we've got some steaks marinated we're going to do that shit um but yeah Yeah. Fuck.

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What else is going on in the golf world? What have we covered? I mean, we can ask you about the cat. God damn it, motherfucker, man. What do you think is going on? What do you think it looks, what does the future look like? I don't think it looks good, unfortunately. It's actually, it's fucking beyond sad, unfortunately.

You know, I don't know. You know, he's had three single car accidents. And, you know, I don't know. Obviously, the toxicology report didn't come out. No blood was taken. They say, and they say it was, whatever, I think he was asleep at the wheel, which is how the car got to 85 and got that far off the road. But, you know, I just hope it doesn't end that way.

I can tell you that. I think it'd be the most tragic thing on the planet if that's the way that it actually ended for him. I don't know if it will or not. I don't know the severity of it, but I've heard it's a good year and a half before some type of, you know, normal can come out of what he's gone through. there's still surgeries available. There's still surgery that has to happen. You know, we don't even know if the fucking back survived it or not.

You know, they keep talking about the ankle on the foot, but we don't know if the five, you know, back surgeries and the fuseback made it through there or not. It's beyond horrible. I mean, it's just, you're thinking about it. You know, this guy's got the fucking rolled by the balls. He's Tiger. He's won everything. He's, you know, he's a fucking,

and the fact that, you know, that this is the way it ended, would be just beyond brutal. Fucking beyond. What a crazy. That was just like, that was such a gut punch that day when I was,

everybody's trying to figure out what happened and what's it look like, what's the problem. It's just like, unreal. I got to text my banker. I got to text my banker.

You know, I was, we were doing something. I told him I could get a wire something. He goes, because I hope your boy Tiger's okay. What the fuck you talking about? You know,

looking to go. And then I, we were at lunch and I see it. I'm like, this motherfucker fucker, man. But God damn. He fucking. kid me again.

The car was like a fucking dropped off of a goddamn airplane. I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't know. It's, you know,

he didn't look good when the interview was Sunday night, right? He looked a little, to me, he looked fucked up. Whatever it was, it was a lot.

You know, yeah, he looked fucked up talking to the man's, but, and if he was, then why the fuck is his team letting him drive

Monday morning? Why the fuck's he, driving a car. And I have this kind of questions like, why are these guys not looking out for him? That's my concern. You know, if he

if he's on pain pills, that's one thing. Fine. If you have pain and he's prescribed them, whatever. It is what it is. Don't let the motherfucker get a car. Okay? If he has pain, I get it. If he, you know, he's obviously had these surgeries, he's had pain. I get it. Don't

let it fucking drive. Christ, he's already done it twice. Okay? I mean, so it's, it's, it's just sad. It's just sad overall because the guy, what he's going through the last 11 years is unbelievable. I mean, the fucking lowest and lowest with the ultimate

fucking highs of winning Augusta, tour championship, coming back, winning the President's Cup as a captain. I mean, fuck, man, you can't, this guy's done enough shit for like a hundred lives. I know. We're the same age. We're 45. This fucking guy has done shit for like 45 people.

And you've lived, by the way. It's not like you haven't lived. I've been short change. Let me tell you. I have that nowhere near the success of the fucking, you know, the kind of things that he's done, but I've had some fun. But God damn, man.

I mean, he is, he's had enough excitement and danger and shit and go on for a lot of people. Let's put that way. He's a headline guy, man. because we're like fanboys too and like a tiger but you're a peer you speak with him about just like you speak about him with like the utmost love and respect the way you're talking about the cat for everything like financially he's done for the game for you but then also playing against them and just the respect you have of like his talent level I always love hearing your perspective to joke it's a fucking joke there's not the fucking joke there's not the fucking next one there's no next one there's no next one there's no you're like there's no that's no that you're like there's no that next one. And there just isn't. There's a lot of great talent on tour. We have a lot of great kids, a lot of fucking missing that. But you will never, when we die, we will not have seen another one of that. Go through this game. I can promise you that right now.

What's your shoe line up look like for this week? I'm a little low this week. What? I got the fives this week. Here we go. He's got them all lined up. Oh, literally has them all lined up. They're clean and they're fucking ready to go, baby. So we got the blue five, the Olympic five.

We got the white, fucking black. I will say your video accuracy is pretty weak. There we go. There you go. Now you know that. That's perfect. What did you think about what Bubba was wearing at Augusta? I got no comments.

Okay. I can't comment. Okay. I got those coming. Okay. I got those coming. Yeah, Bubba got signed by Jordan. He's the same

size as Michael. So you know, they it's not a bad sign. The guys won't two majors. I mean, Bubba's had a great career. You know. You don't seem thrilled about it. Yeah, I know. I didn't mean to bring

up a touchy subject. It's not that I'm not thrilled. It's just, uh, no. I mean, it's, I mean, I get it. That's your fucking, that's like his, that's his, that's his Pat Perez's brand, man. He's the Jordan guy on tour. Like, that is,

So, like, I could see that. That is your territory. Like, you don't have to say that. It's my turn. And it's like if someone's just fucking showing up in red on Sunday, that's your fucking thing. And just to be clear, you're very much more a Jordan guy. Oh, that's without question. I'm also the age of it, too.

By the way, I'm not wearing that fucking red on Sunday anymore. I wore red on Sunday for Tiger three fucking weekends on a row on Sunday in a row. And I shot overpour every fucking time. Fuck. You go to do you. Can't be Tiger. I did it for him. I'm like, I'm waiting for some of this fucking mojo to show up.

Like, where's my chip in? Where's my fucking bounce that goes the right way? There's my thing. Where's my chipper? Sorry, Tiger. No more fucking no more round on Sunday. I think I saw someone tweet. It may have been Pat McAfee or someone, but they were like, how the hell do these guys

make these Jordans comfortable for golf? And it is true. Like, when you wear a brand new pair of Jordans, like, they're super fucking stiff and, like, you got to kind of work them in. Like, how the hell do you just put on a new pair and go play? play professional golf. They're comfy, baby. There's, I don't do anything.

You don't do anything? Like, you don't change your soul. That thing gave me fucking 20 blisters a day. It's going on my foot. That brand and that fucking, there's no way. Bro, by the way, when you guys do come, when you see the new room and when you see it all fucking done up, it is. Oh, boy.

Fucking sick. The sneaker, the sneaker room? The sneaker room is done. The Jordan, the fucking big Jordan on the floor is done. The shoes are getting ready to go in. it's um but you know that's the thing there's there's very few there's no real jordan guys out here there's none of the collectors there's no one that knows what the fuck's going on there's no one it's just you know like i told you before tiger is the golf icon and the idol for a lot of

people he's just not my fucking sports idol he just not mj is but the fact that i get to put that goddamn shoe on every day is it's incredible i mean i it's just incredible. I still can't believe that this old fat fuck, you know, at 45, gets to fucking pour these things and get sponsored by this company. It's unbelievable. It's just unbelievable. It's awesome. And I'm looking at drinking tonight. There you go. Just put it on brand.

So this, Jordan Winery is one of my favorites. I drink it all the time. It's a phenomenal, phenomenal winery. They actually, I put out a post at when the last stand start him and they sent me a fucking a double magnum of the 09 Jordan when I that's when I won the Holt. They both they want them they sent me a beat you know a fucking big deal and any time you want to come back to about me it's a

phenomenal one. Awesome. That's sick. Wow. What else you got? You got all kinds of conspiracies and shit going on out there. Like what? Q-in-on? I just watched that fucking documentary. That shit was crazy. I watched that C-spiracies. Did you see that on Netflix?

No. No. The fish, killing the fish and the swordfish and the sharks and that shit. What? Don't eat fish anymore. Don't eat fish anymore? Don't eat fish anymore? Don't eat fish. I'm having fucking fish.

I'm having fucking fish tonight. Don't do that to me. Don't eat fish. No, don't eat fish. We're doing steaks. We're doing steaks. What the fuck else? There was something that one.

What the hell was the other big thing that went on? It was not because it's been so long with you guys. I can't remember. I guess we're going to have to do it again soon. They found that fucking particle that they didn't know. Did you see that one? The New York Times, I was going a little crazy about that. They found some particle that they don't understand where it came from or what's maneuvering it.

They just can't answer it. It's like in some lab and they're like reacting to something. Dude, this is what I'm trying to explain. Like, dude, when we watch these fucking alien movies, there's always like this, oh, an alert. Like, hey, the world's under attack. I'm letting people know. They're telling us right now that shit's going on and we're not paying attention to it. That's the alert.

Hey, we got this fucking particle bouncing around some room. We have no idea why. We have no idea what the fuck's changing it. Hey, you do what you want with that information. We've told you. This place is going down soon. I'm telling you. You're here first in the podcast.

You need to get the fuck out of that state, which we'd go. Like everybody's going to fuck out of there. True. So when are we going to put this fucking deal together? Oh. It might be hot. You're going to have to get out of it. It might be have to come to Scottsdale.

It's going to be hot. 120 on the pavement? No, no thing. No, it won't be warm. Got to play what? 6 a.m. It's one of my tactics. No, no, we're playing late when it's fucking hot.

You're going to lose Lurch and Trent and probably myself. That's fine. That's fine. That's also fine. You're coming up from a gamer's lens. Don't forget. Then we got fucking booze and we got pool and we got food at the house after that. Well, that part I'm fine with.

That tequila, I'll tell you want. It's nice. What's that tequila called again? Sincorrel, Jordan's tequila. It's fucking unbelievable. I've been drinking that shit by her taste. I've been drinking that shit. by the case, baby, by the case.

So we got to put that shit in motion. We've got to get it together out there. We'll get a rematch. You're going to rematch. Love us to you guys again. It'll be fun. Yeah. Yeah.

We get back to the house, have a little dinner. Fucking egg. No fish, just steak. No, there's no fish. That fish is out. Fish is out. Shit. Oh, man.

Well, good luck this week, man. Bro. I'm rooting for you. All right, bro. I appreciate it. We'll see what the fuck happens. We'll get some shit together. together going so you're the man pat we appreciate it good luck this week otherwise riggs well you're

going to be in town most of the time yeah i think i'm just staying here this place is heaven you know that you know i know that i'll be back in about uh four and a half week so let's get together that week and see what's going on yeah you got five straight here right i got five hopefully get the pj if not but i'll be home that week and then colonial memorial and that new uh I knew what, that's sea island, but it's like, somewhere down there, that Congare. It's supposed to be unbelievable that place. Yeah, South Carolina, right?

Yeah, it's supposed to be unbelievable. Have you done, by way, have you done the Grove, Jordan's place? You know, I've been trying to get there for 10 times. I keep fucking it up. Like I birdied, I buried the last hole at Bay Hill. So that's, well, actually, I was first alternate and I got in the damn tournament, so I had that fucked up that plan. Then I made that, I made that 20 foot around the last hole,

made the cut so I didn't get to go. And then Honda, I was going to go up there. And I fucking eagle with the last hole. Fucked that weekend up. So I had to play there. And then now that my boy that owned Silver Leaf is going to pick us up, me and Cokerac up, we were going to go and play with MJ on Monday of Tampa. And MJ's got his fishing tournament, so he's not going to be there, so we're not going to go.

So I don't know. I think there's something about that place that maybe I shouldn't go because every time I try to go, there was like something happens. Yeah, the universe is trying to stay away from us. Science of the above. That's funny that you say you fucked it up because, like, we were talking, like, hanging around for the weekends. We were talking about, like, DJ this week, this weekend.

Master's like, what the fuck is that guy doing on Saturday and Sunday, like, just waiting around and give that jacket up? We were talking about, does he fly home, like, PJ home and PJ back? No, he, probably some booze, you know, hanging out. I mean, it's got to fucking suck for the defending champion that's got to sit there and suck on in that town, you know, wait for the goddamn next guy that put the jacket on

and act like he's fucking happy and all that shit. I mean, it's got to suck. I mean, DJ's fucking awesome. I mean, he's so good, man. My guys, he's fucking good. There's a lot of good ones out here now. Did you see the video we put up with him or he hit it?

He fucking beat us all lefty on that par five. Yeah, that was upsetting. He is, yeah, it's upsetting. He is so, he is so fucking good lefty. Well, he's good doing anything. I mean, a guy can play football, basketball, I mean, volleyball, fucking curling, you name it. The guy can do it all. What was the number of the debate?

Could he break, like, 90 or something? Lurch, what were we debating? 90 left-handed? Yeah. Yeah, I think he could do it. 100%. I said he was going to be like a five, six handicap if we played. Lefty.

I mean, the way he hit it, the pitching reggie hit, that's his good. I've seen him hit driver. It's fucking unbelievable. He breaks 90 without a sweat, left hand. He's a freak. He's an absolute freak. He is an athletic freak. Right, he's a specimen.

He's just fucking, you know, he just has it. Some guys have it, you know. I don't have it. Right before we played him, he took like three or four, like, balls, dropped him on the ground, grab. Maybe Frankie's lefty club, and then just ripped and pureed four or five pitching wedges over the trees and it was like like if you gave him a club that was

the size of a quarter like that's where the impact was coming every time it was just insane Frankie has that chipping coming along by the one that's never good some of the worst chipping I ever did came in front of Butch Harmon we have a video coming out oh god

we were in fucking Vegas and he'll wear your ass out too oh my God he just couldn't comprehend he couldn't fucking comprehend why I couldn't do it I love Butch he's is so fucking, he is so fucking old school and awesome. I mean, I love talking him and hanging out with him.

He's the fucking best. Dude, we sat in his office and interviewed him for an hour and a half. We could have sat there for three days. You could sit there for a month. Yeah. I love talking him. He is, his knowledge and his fucking stories and all of his shit, he is fucking awesome. He's one of the last, like, old school kind of guys that still has an old school mentality.

I mean, I fucking love talking him. Every time I see him, I make sure I go over and say, what's up. He's the best. He's the best. He was looking to spend some time with him. He was showing us, like, videos of Tiger when he was like, what was like, 18 years old? 18, 19, yeah. Yeah, Stanford.

Fuck me. Dude, and then he was showing us the difference between Tiger, you know, when he's 18 and Tiger when he was, like, 22 and decided to change his swing, like, after winning the Masters in 97. Yeah. And, like, even we could just see the differences. And he was so jacked up about it. It was cool, man.

Really cool. Man, that motherfucker worked hard. I mean, I couldn't put in hours. You can't even log to do what he's done. To do what he did before he was like, you know, 34, really. Just unbelievable. I wish I had that work ethic. I don't happen anymore.

The club was turning over when he was 18. He was like, we worked on key. It's just, he actually made Tiger Swing look bad when he compared it to how good and perfect it ended up being. We all went, we all collectively went, whoa, when we saw the 18-year-old swing. he had to be he had i'll put his i literally put tiger out with anybody that's ever fucking touched the club in their life swing wise it's the most perfect you know it's just the most perfect unbelievable thing i've ever seen swing wise i mean i i don't even watch

mine because it's it's so fucking bad watching his is so picture perfect in every single way possible god damn i hope that fucking at least play again one day you know hopefully we can play the champ tour together. That'd be amazing. We get our cards together, you know. I think Tiger would ever play in the championship store prior to what happened and when Tiger was on his trajectory to keep going. He told me that he was going to only play the the U.S. Senior Open because he wanted all the trophies. Whoa. If he won, he was going to, then he would have them all and nobody had them all. He wanted every U.S. GA trophy. So he said he would actually think about playing 50, 51 to do it.

But, you know, who knows? You know, if he, if some miracle comes round where he can actually play, let's say at 47, you know, the fucking tour is going to get him a cart. I mean, Christ, I'd drive it for him. You know, anybody would drive it for him. He's getting a fucking cart. Let's put it that way. So that's best case scenario.

I think, you know, I just hope he can, like, walk normal, do shit with his kids, live a fucking normal life for the rest of his time and go down that route because that would be, I think that's actually I think that's actually best case I don't think he fuck cares really about the golf he may a little bit right not right now but he may but you know best case nor is you can watch his daughter down the aisle

these kind of things you know that a lot of people do in life and I think that's where he's kind of you know I don't I haven't talked to him but if I was him I'd be fucking worried about those kind of things you know what is actually going to come out of this in another year from now yeah that's about how long

thing. Just unfortunate, man. It really sucks. It's fucking really unfortunate. I hope that God doesn't go down that way because what he's done for people in life in general, I mean, there's no way that the world works like that. It just should not be back, man. I think he's going to be back.

I mean, too. You know, I got a lot of good vibes. I hope. We always sending him all that way. Everybody's got that way. We always compare this guy to other people in scenarios that are similar to what he's in, but we forget that he's Tiger Woods. And like that page has not been written yet.

You can't compare what he does. When he came back to win the Masters, it was impossible until Tiger did that. So like everything at his age, all the stuff that he's gone through cannot be compared to anything else. He's writing the book. He is writing the book.

And that book is unbelievable. Because like I said, he's done shit that, you know, would equal like 45 lives. You know, I mean, he's done shit, the ups and downs and things he's been through. Fuck, man.

The fact he's only 45, I mean, it's amazing. If he was like 300, you'd be like, okay, well, that kind of makes sense. But 45, like, God, damn. I know. It was amazing. The ups and downs and the fucking highs and the lows like, fuck, man. I could imagine. I just couldn't imagine.

But, you know, hopefully it comes out of it. Hopefully it goes, well, it's all you can do. You know, it's all you can do. You just hope. Well, let's have a big. stretch here, Pat. Let's have a big four or five weeks. Let's fucking go low. Let's get the ball in the hole. Let's do it.

Exactly. I need a big one. Appreciate you boys again. We're going to get that match going. I'm going to call it the, we're going to call it the heat stroke. That's definitely not, man. That is no good. I got a train for this thing. I'm going to take runs and get some semblance of shape here. Do some

fucking jumping jacks in the sauna and shit like that. So you get ready. But it's going to be, yeah, we'll call it the heat struck. I love that. Amazing. It's a good one. Amazing. All right, boys. Hi, Pat.

I appreciate it again. Good luck. Thank you, man. Say hi to the squad for us. Good luck, see you, Matt. Thanks, boys. See you again.