Fore Play - Pat Perez & The Blind Golfer

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

2+ hours with our dear friend Pat Perez. We discuss: hitting fans with errant tee shots, where the Olympics fall in the importance of golf titles, Augusta keepsakes, Steve Williams stories, a rematch ...vs the Fore Man Scramble at Silverleaf, Pat’s new outlook on his golf game and on life in general, and much more. Plus we’re joined by Jeremy Poincenot, the legally blind golfer who recently became a single digit handicap and may have to take on our very own Frankie Borrelli in a golf match. Packed, packed show.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hi, Pat. Gentlemen. Wow, what a setup. Wow, you're in your office? Yeah, my wife finally kind of got organized.
Starting point is 00:00:18 My shoe room was almost done. It was too loud. It's next to the baby's room. So. I kind of like the office more. You made some progress in the office. It's got on my shit. I got so much stuff to actually fucking do and put in here.
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's actually frightening. I got so much to do in general. I just don't have time to fuck off. I got so much to do. But this will be done eventually. What's like all you got all these like crystals and shit over your left shoulder? Every year. So a lot of this shit, I'll tell you the, I'll show you the fucking prime ones.
Starting point is 00:00:58 These are the ones people don't even know about But you can't get them So you have to play So when you go to Augusta You can get like this shit here, right? You can get the What the hell is it? See like it says masters on it?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh yeah You get that one When you play They give you the one with just the Logo Oh That's the coolest guy I've got
Starting point is 00:01:26 Fuck me I got, I had four of them, one broke, you know, of course, in transit. So, you know, good luck, me getting one. If it was tired, you'd probably get another one, but I can't get one from Damshare. Yeah, how would you even submit that request? Yeah, oh, you know, broke, go really okay. I'm not, that's like tall ones too. So it's pretty cool as shit.
Starting point is 00:01:46 These are, I never drink out of those that kind of hide them. But then I got all, I mean, you know, playing pebble a million years. I've got, I've got so much of this shit laying around, pebble stuff. And then Jack, he gives away, you know, Waterford as well. But, like, you know, there's our Pobble trophy. Me and my partner won. Those are sick. I'm a good pebble.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But that's the one that Jordan sent me. And, you know, I've got a bunch of things inscripted from Don Hilliote. All kinds of shit. And then here's my, there's my, like, my biggest prize thing on the planet. Because it's actually, you can't read it, but it's signed by Arnold Palmer. Because he hosted the 50th that year. And then that one, that was just another view of it. be signed both of them for me, which is sick.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So. Yeah, those are. Those are important. But yeah, like you think of tea things. They give you shit every time you go to one. I've got a whole other, I got all kinds of shit in a warehouse that I got to come and put in. I had all these shells put in just for that. Now I got to finish organizing the shit. What are those two bottles of Coke, those two Mexican Cokes right there?
Starting point is 00:02:53 They, um, so we're playing Mexico City. Oh, no, this is when I got to church. championship. They give your own. There's nothing better. That's the best Coke in the world right there. By far. Oh, and those little bottles?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah. So, two of those types of championship. That's so good. I've got to have a lot more, but unfortunately, I just don't. But, yeah, it's a little shit like that that I, you know, I didn't even realize I had a lot of this stuff. But it's pretty cool to look over 20 years of playing on a two. or what the hell you kind of, you know, you can imagine what fucking tiger's houselips like what he's got.
Starting point is 00:03:37 You have to buy three more houses and the house on shit. Right. Well, I think it was like, who was it Ricky, who another little Ricky League who said that the only thing he has are his major trophies. He just like sends his trophies to like villages and around the world. Oh, it was Roy. It was Roy who said that when Roy was over there.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Was that Roy? Because Rory said when he was driving away, he like was rethinking. his entire life. He was trying to really like determine how he felt about tournaments. Yeah, he treats like Tiger treats regular PGA tour trophies like the Super Bowl champion T-shirts for the wrong team. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:11 He just couldn't possibly care less. Sends him around the world. You've got 65 of the other ones. I guess, you know, maybe there's a, no, he'll wake up when they and realize that, you know, they are all unbelievable, you know, everything that you've done in his entire life. He actually fucking might realize a little. more now than ever because you can't play. So, you know, maybe, maybe those things start to creep back in your mind. I know, you know, every year I get older, I start to realize, damn, I'm a year
Starting point is 00:04:39 older from, you know, what the hell I thought I was, 25 years ago coming out of college, but it's, it's pretty cool stuff. But, yeah, I can only imagine, like, you know, you think of like the big guys, you know, like, like Ernie and Rathie and, you know, guys that have won a lot of majors, and, you know, and just accumulated shit over 35 years. Imagine what their hell their house looks like. You've got to have a big house just a handle of this shit. You've made progress. Last time we were there, this was all in like boxes, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, Ashley did this. This was, she put just the stuff up that she thought would be kind of important to me. I just haven't really had time to do. So over here on this wall, I'm doing, there's my Peloton. There's my fucking clothes hanger. But I put it in all about that. You've been cranking that peloton. I can't find the fucking plug.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I can't find the plug. Of course I can't. So on that wall there, that wall there is going to be 12 shoes. It's going to be a, it'll be a clock, the size of the whole wall. So it'll actually,
Starting point is 00:05:41 it'll actually spin, but it's going to be my 12 favorite shoes, obviously for the 12 number. It's not going to be like a Jordan 1, a Jordan 2, a Jordan 3 for the number. No, it's just going to be my favorite, because I'm not really a 2 guy. I don't like the 2s at all.
Starting point is 00:05:56 What are your favorites? Or the cement fours in your top 10? The cement four is great. Cement four is great. Actually, I've got to put Walburgers four in here. I'm going to probably put his fours right here. He signed me those green Walberg. He'll put him right here.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But that might be one on the wall. Anything that MJ played in, obviously, you know, like the big playoffs, like the flu game and the playoff 13s and I don't know, obviously cement four. I mean, I've got enough choice. I'm going to have to. probably the shoe room's coming together though it's almost done is your uh is your floor up in like the theater room still covered in shoes or no now i got about i got about i got about
Starting point is 00:06:39 i don't know three-fourths of about there now the problem is that the serum doesn't hold everything so i've got to figure out exactly what i want to put in there because i got to you know fucking goes up 15 feet so i have to figure out what is going to go up there and then um i think in my garage downstairs i'm going to put in more shelving for all kinds of stuff golf clubs you know i still got 200 pairs of golf shoes that i have to house somewhere that's just tennis shoes i you know i've got boxes the box of golf shoes everywhere that i still don't what the hell i'm going to do it knows but i can't leave mountain the heat so but i got issues i got a lot i got a lot stuff going on just common man problems i got a lot stuff going on now did i hear right
Starting point is 00:07:20 that somebody broke 100 is this right here is this factual stuff yeah that's factual i shot a 95 yeah good for you. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. How long? It's time. A long time. We, I mean, it's 30 years.
Starting point is 00:07:34 30 years, but we've been doing it for, you know, eight episodes. We've been playing. I've been working on it. I've been working with Tilly. He's been helping me with my swing. Sounds good. Yeah, I mean, we got it. We got it done.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It was a good time. Now we move on and we're going to try to break 90. That's right, baby. Keep going. Keeps you going. I promise you. Yep. That'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So now that you guys getting that better, I did talk to the owner of Severly, who I play with all the time and Rom. We're going to have you guys out there, but you're going to play both of us. So there's no, I don't think any tour players going to beat the 40 anymore. So me and the owner of Silverlee
Starting point is 00:08:10 from having you guys out, we're going to play, us two are going to play you four. And it came down to one putt. Like, I don't know, like, you guys got a lot better.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I see Riggs. His accent's gotten better. Obviously, boys breaking 100 now. All right. He'll obviously get some sweet bounces off. like the last time so no but I think I think we had some fun with it we might have some fun with it for sure every time we agree to change the format it goes bad for us like we just need to be
Starting point is 00:08:40 like we're we are trying to win this then we're not going to you can't continue you're you can't continually play a four against a one guy and keep beating out and then you have to keep challenging yourself we can't just play one guy so now we're going to play two you know and then If ROM happens to be in town, you know, we'll get you guys a little puckered up even more than that, and we'll see what happened. Yeah, I mean, if you bring John Rom into the full, like, you know, like, all right. It's like you're in the Revolutionary War, you bring like a nuclear bomb. It's like, okay, like that's great. What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:09:16 No, no, we might put Rahm on your team. Okay. Now we're talking. Yeah, that's fine. We are going to do it. We'll, we're going to have you guys. I was talking to raise a. about earlier, you know, but we'll, that would be fun.
Starting point is 00:09:29 You guys come out and play it. Oh, yeah. It's perfect right now. It's only like 92 degrees. It's unbelievable. It's the best son we've had, and I can't remember how long. It is hot in New York right now. Really hot.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm not looking, I saw the forecast next week. It's going to be up there. It's like 80% humidity, 95, feeling like 105. It is hot. So you guys lost your governor. That's right. Yeah. Tough one for this.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Tough one for. For me and my Italians. The screenshot. What a line. Just what a line to be on the banner on the news is just I'm not converted. I'm just Italian. Last three governors have walked away with their tail between the legs a little bit, I think. New York's tough place, man.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's just a real tough spot. Fuck, yeah. That's a tough city, boy. Let me tell you. I'll put some fucking hair in the chest. That guy was on his way out for a long time anyway. Nah, I know. Fucking Dave was on him during the, like, the height of it.
Starting point is 00:10:26 the pandemic for writing a book instead of every single day he won like a daytime Emmy for his weekly updates on how the pandemic was doing the guy was the most unlikable guy you could possibly have during something like this like a smile on his face like people are dying like we can't go outside he's like he's like writing like funny memes on the news like today's Tuesday it was a joke it was a joke I will say I think it's safe to say he's a joke now you're allowed you're definitely allowed to say that for sure We made a joke. So is it,
Starting point is 00:10:59 is it mask only in that town or what, what's going on over there? Is it locked down again? Not yet. I think it's teetering on like, you know, I think like public places are going to start going back
Starting point is 00:11:08 to mandatory masks. Like still have it on the flights and some restaurants may start implementing it. But right now it's holding off. It's holding off, which is good. Flights, well, flights will be that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I said flights will be that way until 2022. I don't know, or 322. And I, you know, which sucks because it's such a long day. But, you know, it is what it is. but I think I think some people just fly with them
Starting point is 00:11:30 no matter what for a long time It does just suck when it's a long when it's a long flight Because like the whole Uber to the airport you're in a mask The whole like process of checking your bags Go with the security you're in a mask The whole flight you're in a mask Then getting your bags getting an Uber home you're in a mat It's like it's a full time
Starting point is 00:11:45 You're doing it now for Sasksto You know how hard is go to East Coast Especially if you have a stop It's brutal if you have a stop Because now you're like I think another hour and change in the airport sitting there doing nothing, you know, and everyone's watching like a fucking hawk,
Starting point is 00:11:59 and if you got your mask, you know, it's on over your nose. Okay, I get it, you know, I can't breathe, sorry. Give me two minutes, fucking breathe. Does get hot. How much is your guys, is like process and protocol
Starting point is 00:12:11 and everything changed over the last six months? Tremendous. We don't do testing anymore, and we don't, they're trying to do the masking inside, but, you know, not everybody's doing it. It's like, fuck, man, everybody's tired of it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I think I took like 70 tests, we're all negative, you know. I never got COVID, never, you know, never experienced anything. So whatever that was, it was. But, you know, guys are just more conscious. You know, the guys are still getting it obviously somehow. But now it's up to us. If we feel shitty, then, you know, we have to go test. But, you know, it leaves room for, like next week.
Starting point is 00:12:52 You know, let's say a guy feels shitty on Saturday night. he's lead the fucking tournament. Is he going to go test? Is he going to pull himself out of the tournament? Or is he going to go, fuck me, I got a chance to get the Tour of Championship, you know, quadruple my earnings, you know, get myself set up for next year's schedule, this and this and this and this. I mean, this is where the problem is if you leave it up to, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:14 certain people decision making, you know, it's tough. But, you know, the tour has spent a fortune in testing, masks, and fucking wipes and all this other bullshit they had. That was not in our budget for, you know, that 13 months. I know that. So I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't have a lot of answers to the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean, obviously there's different theories on the whole COVID thing and all this other stuff going on. But, you know, my family never got it. No one of my family got it. No one got sick. I don't know where you get this damn thing. I don't know anything about it. But, you know, guys, players are a little more, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:51 conscious on what's going on. They're not really, you know what I mean? They don't, a lot of guys don't go out anyway. Next week's going to be no different. You know, most guys rent houses,
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Starting point is 00:15:46 Or do you, it's such a golf term that you're just like, I'm at the course the whole time? this year will be the only time that's different. I like going to New York. I love going out to Long Island. I think Long Island has some of the greatest golf in the entire planet that no one talks about. I wouldn't match that against any place in the world as far as golf on that Long Island stretch. You know, I didn't like going to New York in the past.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And I guess I just didn't, I don't know, understand. I don't know. But I love going there now. I think it's great. I think the fans are passionate as all hell. You know, once I started to go to more restaurants and hang out and, and see the city and kind of see what it really is. You know, I really do enjoy going there.
Starting point is 00:16:27 This year will be obviously different because you can't just kind of go outside and see and do whatever you want and that kind of stuff. So it will be kind of a letdown. I'll be staying in Jersey City. So I won't even go across the, I wouldn't even go under the tunnel, go to New York and all. But, you know, I'm sure the fans will still be full steam when they get out there. So what's it like you mentioned the courses, which I love.
Starting point is 00:16:50 You know, as golf nuts, like we love that you love courses, right? That you're like, oh, I'm going to New York. I'm going to go see. When you're, what's your process like? Like, because people have asked me that before. They're like if a Kevin Kisner, Pat Perez shows up at any country club, can they always just get out? Well, there's someone on Long Island that are, you know, as old school stuff. How does that work if you're going to try to get out on?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Not even close. So, you know, I've been trying to get up. Not that I've been trying to get out to because I've been invited numerous times, but the national. I've been just trying to make time. The other problem is making time. to actually do it because you still need to get ready for the tournament to rip. So, you know, you fly Monday, Tuesday's a practice round. If you're in the Wednesday pro-am, you play nine holes,
Starting point is 00:17:29 do you really want to go out to another course and play before Thursday? You know, there's just not a lot of time. You think, well, you've got seven days. You got a lot to do. No, there's just too much going on. You know, in the meanwhile, you still need to be rested by the time you get to Sunday night. Like, Tiger, the best thing that Tiger always had, he was always rested by the time he Sunday, the back nine on Sunday, he was the most rested.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He did his most work before he even got to the tournament so that he would play nine and then go rest and then work out and then do kind of thing. He didn't go sightsee and, you know, play three other courses during the week and all that crap. I mean, I would love to see all the course. You know, my boy even texts me. He's like, hey, you know, he's a member out there at the Brit, which is the most, it's phenomenal. It's so fucking good out there.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He's like, hey, man, fly in like, you know, Friday and come out and play. I'm like, bro, my wife's fucking A-Nap once pregnant. I can't just go and walk to, believe me. But, you know, I played Sabonica. I played Chinnacock. I've played the bridge, obviously Bethpage. I'm sure I'm missing a couple. But, you know, I want to play Fryershead and I want to play national.
Starting point is 00:18:38 It's not because I don't have invitations, but that's what you do need. You need to invitation. You can't, even as a pro, you know, unless you're like a Rory or, you know, Tiger or DJ, whatever. you know, you might be able to call the club and say, I'd love to come out. But when you're mean, you've got to have a different, you know, you've got to have a different fucking set of, you know, set up. So, yeah, now, we can't just show up and go out anywhere we want just because of the tour professions.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That means nothing. These guys have paid, you know, hundreds of thousands to be there and this year, you know, and they want to themselves. I don't blame them. That's the way I'd want it to, too. But it is awesome. When you can get out, like I got invited to go play Sabonica, and that was phenomenal. I mean, that place was awesome.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I'd love to play it. Fryer's Head National. Those are two other ones that love to go out there. But I'm not, I'm not shaking. I didn't really spend a lot of time between, you know, the time I was born. So like basically 35, 38 of even spending any time in New York whatsoever until really the playoffs started, right? But even then, I didn't really go out to the city much.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And Long Island didn't really get out there much in the U.S. Open or whatever. But, man, I'm telling you, that Long Island, that place is so sick. I can see what all the rave is about. You know, Robert Floyd, I've known him forever. His sister's always been out there. And Ray, you know, Senior, they've always had a house there. They rave about it. I've just never spent any time.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But being out there the last like five years, I'm telling you right now, I put that long island golf again. It's anything on the planet. Because just the whole stretch has got, even course, you've never heard it. Like, nobody's ever heard of the bridge. I keep talking about it. And no one's ever heard of it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I mean, it's a million two to join. That's probably not a deal on here about it. A million two to join. You know what I mean? It's like, you think he's part of that course. I also think, like I've seen pictures like South Hampton, I think, which like borders Shinnecock and no one ever talks about it. And everyone's just like, dude, if it was anywhere else in the country, it would be regarded
Starting point is 00:20:31 as one of the best places there is. Yeah, now you guys got some unbelievable course out there. I mean, it's New York, Long Island, you know, the Northeast, they have some of the greatest course. You know, it's funny enough that we're talking about this because somebody asked me a couple weeks I said, you know, all these amazing courses you guys play. I said, we don't play amazing courses. We play TPC courses.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They're not fucking amazing at all. They're probably some of the worst in the whole country, you know, as far as like, they're fucking terrible. I mean, TBCs are, they're terrible. You're talking about, go find me a top 50 TBC course, you know, that's on the deal. There's always a course like in a small old town that you don't know of, you know, like Pine Valley, who the hell ever gets out there? Why do you guys, why do you think you guys don't play more interesting courses?
Starting point is 00:21:14 It's like you're right. The TBC courses are just fucking boring. They're all the same shit. They're fucking terrible. The main reason is the tour owns most of the TPCs, obviously. So that that's a money generating deal for us. Two, who the hell wants 156 guys to come out literally destroy the fucking course? Because that's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:21:33 We're going to destroy the course. The rain's going to be gone. You know, you're going to get all these people trudging around the course. You know, a lot of members, too. They don't want, they don't want, you know, 15, 25,000 people a day walk around their golf course. They just don't.
Starting point is 00:21:50 They want it for themselves. It's a private joint. I get it. Believe me, I get it. So, you know, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:21:56 we don't get to go to all the great stops. Like, when teams get to go play Norder Dane. It's like a great thing, right? People love it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 We don't get to go to those national treasures and go, man, this place is so sick. I can't wait to get to that tournament and go play there. No,
Starting point is 00:22:12 we go to fucking, you know, whatever. You know, it's just not that exciting. It's a term. TPC D.R. No, no, no. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I was hoping Pat wasn't going to go there. I knew Frankie or one of the other guys were going to go there. He didn't say that. You guys said that. PPC Dere Run is a gem. But it is, you know, people, I was talking, I was talking to guys that. Like, how do you guys don't play better courses all the time? I go, bro, because we own the TPCs.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You know, you look at the schedule. It's always some TPC. but we don't ever play the top courses that are in that town, actually. You know, we get lucky with the majors because it's a major. Obviously, Shinnock is different. Beth Page is different, but it's never going to be at Friars Head. You know, it's never going to be at National, right? It's never going to be at something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I mean, Wingfoot's kind of one of them. I wish we'd go back to Westchester to play that, you know, the old Buick Open. I wish we had a tournament up there. But, you know, Cog Hill. I love Cog Hill. We don't have that anymore. It's just... What is like the best?
Starting point is 00:23:13 What is, like, your favorite, course that you guys play? My favorite course. My favorite course and turn of it is well, Tori is kind of a separate thing, even though they fucked up to talk to the course. But that aside from Tori, just because I have that, is Riviera. Riviera is one of the all-time old school courses. They haven't really fucked it up. They made a little bit longer. The tent's green now is so ridiculous. It's actually embarrassing, but that doesn't matter. But that course is just, it's so. It's so. so good. If we can play it in kind of a different time where it was firm and fast,
Starting point is 00:23:49 bro, that place, that place is so good. That tournament is phenomenal. That tournament is so good. Yeah, Riviera, I know like Max obviously talks about a ton, but I feel like every player on tour. I mean, they had the U.S. Amateur there not that long ago and it's got the history. I think there's a lot of talking. Did they announce, are they going to announce? They're going to bring a major there, I feel like in the next 10 years. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, Elf won last one, 95. I can't believe there has not been another major since then. That's outrageous. I mean, and Elle talks about it like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:20 from Houston and South, you know, in Australia, but he loves that place. I love that place. You know, I grew up on Kukuya grass, you know, that shitty, kakuya rough, you know, fast, shitty, poana greens. I mean, I love that stuff. I think it's wrong, but that layout on the course is so good. I love that place.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I think it's probably, obviously, Hogan's Alley, you got all this other stuff. that's probably my favorite one because it's also one of those big time courses that we get to go to every year it's like a big time top 50 course every year they welcome us to come so that might have you know something else to do with it but that's my favorite it's my favorite course we play on tour it's very funny that you like you crave and can't wait to play on those like California poana greens and like kids, you couldn't drag kids across the country to play on those fucking greens. You know, bitch and moat about those I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:25:16 He was not, he hates that shit. He hates those. But, you know, when you grow up on perfect type Bermuda greens, like they have in, you know, in Seattle, and it's, I get it. I mean, you know, I get it. But it's funny for me, it's so special, I mean, I used to work there, you know, I was high school there. It's a different deal for me. I wish the course was still, you know, kind of old school the way it was. I mean, it's coming back a little bit, but, you know, like I said,
Starting point is 00:25:46 I wish they would have left Phil to the North course because I think North course would have been better than the South. That's how good plans that Phil had for the North. Yeah, wild history there where he had the bid and it was pretty much a done deal, and then they kind of pulled the plug in the last second, the city and the town. It's crazy. It was $10 million high. His, like, proposal?
Starting point is 00:26:07 What it was going to cost for him to redo it was 10 million higher than they wanted to do it. 10 million? It was going to be fucking sick, though, bro. It was going to be, you know, and he made an argument which I've thought, even since I was 14 years old, there's not enough canyon in play on either one of the courses. Right. You've got this amazing cliff on this incredible beach down there. And if you think about the holes on the north, now the south doesn't have.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You've got a little bit, but even still like 13, right? 13th in that back team. That fucking Faraway should be over to the left one. With a canyon is gone. Your ball's gone, right? And then like 14, Farrow should more left. 15 should have been more left. Those trees should have been gone.
Starting point is 00:26:52 16, the green should have been a little more left. 17, the green should be kind of shorter left. There's so many things on the south and the north that the canons just aren't in play. They finally on 17 of the south, they brought that canyon into play off the team. But that's how like Change the U.S. Open, too. I mean, Louis U.S. has hit it in the canyon.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Right, right. But that's how like 10 or 12 holes on both those courses should be, and they just aren't. But Phil's plans, his plans were awesome. They were going to be so cool. The canyon coming up three on the north
Starting point is 00:27:25 was going to then wrap around the green on nine, like on the right side of it. It was sick. How long ago was that decision? I don't even, how long ago was that? A couple years ago, easily. Three, four years ago, easy.
Starting point is 00:27:39 When he started talking about it, you know, I talked about it in great details, because I played there just as many times he had. You know, me and him played there at the most, probably Hoffman, the other one. We're like, bro, this course just needs some action. It needs, it doesn't just need length. It needs to have some
Starting point is 00:27:57 fucking danger somewhere. You know, like even as good as the green is on 17 on the north, they didn't even, they didn't bring the fairway to the left over there. The fairway, you got to bring the fairway in on the left. It's the same thing like on two. You know, move the fairway left.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Move the green left over on three. It's like, God, you get this amazing, amazing canyon and cliff and all this other stuff. And he used none of it. It's funny, man, because we were actually at the, at the U.S. Open. I remember talking to Trent swing coach, John Tiller, who's obviously also kids, swing coach. And on 17, now they have the cluster of bunkers on the right. They moved the fairway left. And literally, if you miss the fairway left, it just kicks into that canyon like Louis ball did.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And they had been pretty recent into the whole decade golf stuff, Kiz. And Tilleri was saying the actual start line for Kiz is in the bunkers. He's actually starting his T-Shod on 17 now because of what you're talking about in the bunker. And if he draws it, great. But if he pushes it right, it's literally what happened to Louis where it's like, you're fine. You're still going to make par most likely from those bunkers. but if you pull it left and you're aiming down the right center of the fairway, you're fucked. It's over.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It's over. Which is why, you know, Ron was the clear favorite to win that tournament because now is, you know, I talked with Ron, a lot of detail about that after he won. Because, you know, I play them all the time. But I know you love to play some running. But he knows what he's going to go to. He's going to go to this power fade all day. He can aim left. He's going to hold.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's going to power fade off of all the trouble coming in. And there was no other clear. favorite other than him to win that coming down the stretch. Louis, as great as he is as a, you know, a major player, there was no question that Ron was going to win that tournament coming down the stretch. When he got into that lead, he's won him before, he won his first tournament there. He loves that place.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It was just a clear deal, you know, that he was going to win. And he, you know, he might win that thing. He might win that thing as many times Tiger has. Is some of my favorite sound bites, I feel like, in the last year where Rob talking about his sort of limitations with like what he was born with and how he learned to swing the way he swings because of that. I felt like that was some of the best takeaway for any golfer in the world of like, no, this is the best swing that works for me.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Like instead of everyone just trying to copy Tiger 2000 or whatever, like, no, no, swing, like what's best for you. And then Rob talking about that as he's been dominating golf, I thought that was just really important for a lot of normal golfers to hear that. Yeah, well, it's funny enough because the owner of Silverlee, Ben, he always works with kind of like whoever we play, whether it's me or Chess or Chapel or Ron. He plays with me and Ron the most. He keeps trying to copy Ron, but he swings like Patrick Reed. You couldn't have any more opposite swings, right?
Starting point is 00:30:52 So I told him, last time we probably said, bro, we got to get this shit out of your mind that you're going to swing like John. No one's going to swing like John. You're never going to get this flat and come through and turn like he does. he does it beautifully. That's why he's number one in the world. You are not going to do that. You are a powerful player. Nice. I mean, this guy's phenomenal. He's a plus five at a club. He owns a club. He owns a plus five. Ron gives him one to one and he's got his hands full every day.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But I said, you swing like Patrick Reed. You aim right. You come over, you're across at the top. And you come down. You always hit this power, this like total draw. And I said, that's fine. But don't try to swing like John. You're literally going to be out of the game. You can't do it. So back to your point, yes, swing your swing. Find out things that are in your swing that you can work on to get better.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Like me, you know, I started working with Claude Harmon, and my driver now is like a power fade. Everything else is kind of straight, but the driver's a power fade. It gets to the right, and I swing left, and it fades out to the right. And that's fine. That's just going to beat my shot. I tried to draw it for three years. I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I was one of the worst drivers of the game. Now I'm actually in play, and I'm actually playing. better. So you have to, you've got to know what you can do and what your body can do. If you think you can hit a power draw, but you can't, then don't do it. Go the other way. Work on what can actually get you in play. Speaking of Tory and aiming in certain spots, one of the big things that came out of the U.S. Open was Bryson on the fourth hole and multiple holes, just targeting the crowd and not screaming for, yelling for. What was your whole takeaway with this guy? I mean, he can't, he can't
Starting point is 00:32:31 get out of his own way, it seems like. What's your take on the fourth? Pat, by the way, Pat just took his hat off and he's now combing through his hair thinking about... That's a perfect representation of Bryson Nishambo. It's just like, whoo, man. The thing about is, I get along with Bryson very well.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Bryson has always been great to me, but there are just things I want to go, bro, just don't fucking say anything. Like, just can you get out of your own way and just shut the fuck? up. If somebody says to yell for it, yeah, fuck, bro. I went through this. I went through this about a fucking decade ago where I was playing with DJ. DJ was running. He was fucking nine out. He was nine up on us. And I just started fucking foul balls. I had a guy in the goddamn head he went to the hospital. I had two more. I had three people in four holes. You know, and I'm like, it was going so fast. I wasn't even fucking thinking about what's going on. And I hit three
Starting point is 00:33:28 people. And people call me out of it. They said, you don't fucking yell for. DJ's on his way to a championship. People drop a left and right.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I got to go to the fuck what are we doing out here? I'm just trying to get in. I'm fucking killing people out here. It was horrible. It was the worst like stretch of golf I ever played. It was like,
Starting point is 00:33:48 God damn. Will you people just fucking go like, let me hit it over here somehow. Can I hit it over there away from the people? I didn't. And this guy, get done with this guy's
Starting point is 00:33:56 fucking head is like this. I'm like, Like, give him a glove. Like, what the fuck is that going to do? Your glove? You guys go to the fucking hospital. What that was the glove? So I called that guy.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I called this guy that night. I don't know what the fuck I finished. And it was, oh, man, I can't believe you called me. I go, bro, I must fucking kill you today. What do you mean? You think that's not with a phone call? At least I'm just glad you're alive that you can take the phone call. But I hit three people in four holes.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They hit a guy on 11, 12, and fucking 13. I'm like, we got to go off this course. We got to fuck out of here. I said, I'm going to kill somebody. And then they're like, you didn't yell four. And they're all mad at him. I'm like, bro, I didn't even fucking think about. I'm so, like, worried about killing somebody and dot to da-da.
Starting point is 00:34:42 You know, DJ's running. He's fucking playing fast. I'm playing shit. And everybody's passing me. I'm like, I didn't think about it. And I'm like, oh, yeah, well, okay, you got to yell four. But, you know, when you're in those big-time groups, like the Bryce is the world, DJ these guys, you're always going to have fans with you.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So, yeah, yelling for us. is the right thing to do. But God damn, I wish Rice would just fucking, you know, he's such a good player, but God, I don't know why he just can't,
Starting point is 00:35:08 like, not say the wrong things. Right. We talked about it the last time we had you on the show when the Part 67 thing was going on, where he just, like,
Starting point is 00:35:16 don't do that. It's so easy to not do that. Because if you don't shoot 67, you look like a fucking idiot. 100%. I mean, it's just really simple. I'm not going to show up
Starting point is 00:35:27 to literally to ask him. Oh, fuck if i don't shoot 68 when the fedx cup this you know this year it's a it's all it's all it's all bad right also just to bring it back to like what you were just saying how you hit people when you were playing with dj there's a huge difference between publicly or like public perception of what you were doing where you just didn't have it those couple holes and what bryson was doing where they were saying he was actually his aiming point was in the crowd so like if you know that at least like pre-round be like hey guys when i get up there clear the crowd on the right like i mean that's just a missile like
Starting point is 00:35:57 you're saying like you're sending guys to the hospital by accident this guy could have sent someone to hospital every single day since my brother that ball yeah that ball is coming in hard there's there's only one place i've ever eaten where people are and it only happens a little bit of time it's at pebble number six where it's the left side of the cart path up there is bare you can hit it up there and you got actually a clean shot to the to the green but before i hit i tell the marshal i said tell those people down there you to get over here because we're going this one way, but I've never actually hit somebody aiming at them. You know, like saying, well, I'm going to go over there.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say shit. And that's just going to happen. But, you know, you get up to you're like, fuck, he's so horrible. Like, God damn it. Hit this guy, you know. Oh, give the guy a fucking ball. What the hell is that going to do? It's not going to do anything.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I mean, I feel fucking shitty as it is. No, yeah. So now, even if it just kind of goes offline, I yell for it. buying a home very important probably the most important thing that most people will do actually financially i don't know i don't know what could be more important than that could anything be more important than that no i think that's got to be the number one thing certainly it's certainly the most important thing the biggest decision that young people make i would imagine yeah for most people i would say like you get into that billionaire million then they're doing all sorts of
Starting point is 00:37:21 investments but for thus normal people how many billionaires do you think you're listening to the podcast Oh, but like maybe purchasing a company. Like maybe there's a guy here that like his job is to see if his company needs to like overtake another company. That's got to be a stressful part of your job. He's talking millions. Over under point five billionaires that listen to this show. I'll take the over. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I think that I take the over just because it's golf and like maybe, maybe. How many billionaires are on the planet? I'm going to look that up right now. But all I know, while I look at that. Thousands? Are there 200 billionaires? I think there's more. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I didn't know. I think there are... I don't know. I have a number. I have a number, too. It's probably the same number because we're not going to do... We're going to do the Jake Bass search and we're just going to see the first thing that pops up.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I'm sticking with 200. I'm sticking with 200. 2,755. Wow. Wow. That gives me a whole hope. Both of... It's both of...
Starting point is 00:38:25 both a small number but also a pretty large number. You know what I mean? I'm going to say one of them listens to the podcast. Okay. I'm going to say zero of them listen to the podcast. Yeah, I'm going to say zero. If it was like, if it was 10 hours of golf, it's golf. Dude, rich people like golf.
Starting point is 00:38:41 We got the best chance for sure. Riggs, I'll agree with you there. We got the best chance probably, but I still say no. These people aren't real though. Pretty big show. Pretty big show. Pretty popular hobby among super rich people. Golf.
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Starting point is 00:40:14 bullshit where people guilt you into doing things because they they think that they're the fucking, you know, if you get enough bullies after you, well, fuck, he didn't say four, fuck him and that, da, da, da, da, da. And now you've got this shit storm that came after you because you didn't yell four. And literally in that day that, I'm like, bro, I don't know where the fuck the ball is going. I'm sorry you people have to be here to watch the shit. I don't here to watch DJ, but I'm playing too. I'm in fucking third place and my ball is going like this.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So I don't know what to fuck to tell you. And the problem is, when you do, here is another big problem, too. When you have that many fans around it, when you yell four, they don't do this. They go, oh, really? And they turn around. They fucking always look up. So everybody out there, when you hear four, cover your fucking head. Don't look up.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Don't look for the ball. Don't look at the marshal. Just go like this. That's it. That's all you got to go. Dude, they do give a very curious, like, ooh, a pro ball is coming over near. It's like, where it could it be? It's like, no, dude, it's going to kill you.
Starting point is 00:41:20 It's going to fire. It's going to kill you. One time I screamed, I screamed heads up, it's coming for your head. Because I noticed the guy just wasn't moving. And I just, like, I had to scream everything I could because it was going right at his dome. Well, when I hear four, I mean, you might as well yell fucking, you know, firing a hole. I mean, I take off and I'm like this. I'm fucking down on the ground.
Starting point is 00:41:43 You don't look up, you don't do nothing. It's actually scary, bro. When you, you know, when you're playing and the ball, Stars going like this, it actually gets scary because fuck, I mean, I shattered a lady's knee in Charlotte. I ducked a one off 16. The old 16 used to be, the whole used to be way different. You're a menace on the golf course, man.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Oh, bro, I'm fucking terrible. Wait, are you a menace or do you? Like, are you a menace or do all PJ Tour pros have these type of stories? I'm sure they do. No, no, we all have these stories, I promise you. Everybody, just no one cares about us enough to actually bring them up. but thankfully they kind of don't. We do.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I fucking duck hook went off 16 at Charlotte. This is probably 50 years ago. And there was like trees and bushes. I'm like, hey, she, where fuck that ball go? I go all the side. God damn, there's my ball over there in the first cut. Perfect. I got a great bounce.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I get up there and this fucking lady is on her back, holding her knee. Or a goddamn knee is like this big all of a sudden. I go, fuck me. God damn. You know. There's that great bounce. There's a fucking here.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Give her a glove. She's fine. Get over there. They go, hey, how are we doing? She goes, not good.
Starting point is 00:42:53 My knee is shattered. The problem is with this whole deal, is you've just, you know, injured this person tremendously, right? And you've got to keep going. It's not like you can stay there to make sure that she gets help
Starting point is 00:43:06 and gets going on. I mean, you know, now you're on the fucking clock. You've got to keep going, and you're like, I mean, I just almost fucking killed this person.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And I got to keep going because the sport goes on. I mean, it's like such an insensitive. The Marshall's like, Pat, let's go. You got 30 seconds. Hit your ball here. It's like, it's like such an insensitive. Do it like, whoa, fuck it says on the ticket, you know, no, you didn't fight on you. I mean, it's pretty brutal. It's fucking brutal. It's not fair for you guys, though. Like, if a guy hits a home run in a baseball game and someone's not paying attention and catches a baseball off the chin. Yeah, exactly. No one feels bad about that.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Nobody cares. When you guys accidentally hit it with, there's no lining, there's no board, There's no netting. It's just balls going at hundreds of miles an hour whipping at these people's knees and head. But you're the fuck. You're the asshole for hitting the fucking guy because you didn't hit the fairly the 23 yards wide. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I mean, I don't get it. You named any other sport the fucking people are getting hit left and right. And it's like, I don't know what fuck. You know, that's just what it is. It says on a ticket. But if we do it, like you're a fucking asshole. If you throw like a golf ball size rock at someone at like 15, miles an hour, you are considered like a terrorist and you guys are hitting golf balls
Starting point is 00:44:21 180 miles an hour just had crowds of people. It's unbelievable. I mean, think about it. You know, when a guy hits a foul, right, a guy, you know, right hitter hits a foul ball out there and it gets kind of, you know, in between the right field and first base. The guy doesn't yell, watch out, you know, but nobody gets mad at him. No. Right?
Starting point is 00:44:41 No. If we don't yell it, I mean, and nobody's, you know what fucking loud. You got to yell, by the way. To have to hear you from 320 yards. Think about that. It's not like you're yelling 15 feet. You're only 300 and some yards if the fucking guy is actually listening and paying attention what's going on. Totally.
Starting point is 00:45:00 They're like chatting. They're looking at their phone. They're trying to see. Oh, who's coming up next? Take a fucking picture, bro. I mean, they don't. Boom. Just smokes.
Starting point is 00:45:10 They got to have like a horn or like a voo-vo zala set up on every T-box. For you guys to run. For you guys to run. to and just blow into it. I actually told H. I told H. you need to start carrying a whistle. I think a whistle would work,
Starting point is 00:45:22 you know, or somebody that yells fire, you know, where people actually pay attention. But yeah, I mean, you're talking about something that takes off the club.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Then there's a reaction because it's offline. You're pissed anyway. They're like, oh, fuck. It's going towards somebody. And by the time you yell, you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:45:40 you know, but you're talking about like six seconds. Yeah. Right? And then someone 320 yards away that's not listening anywhere or paying attention is going to hear you go oh fuck you know i mean it's i mean bryson's probably getting a little actually it's probably not getting a bad deal because if you're actually aiming at the people and you're not saying something then that's a fucking dick that's a
Starting point is 00:46:02 fucking dick move tell so tell me about um what's going on with bryson getting heckled how do you feel because we talked about the last show it's kind of the question is like is it is it now crossing the line People yelling Brooksie at him. People, they kind of, I guess, heightened the audio when he hit the ball in the water on, like, 12 or 11, whatever it was last week. And people were, nice shot, Bryson. Like, maybe you spend it too much time in the gym, Brooksie. They're screaming at him nonstop. Do you think as a, you know, because any other sport, right, if you're like Alexander Ovechkin gets booed every time he touches the puck, like you hear some brutal shit.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Golf clearly you do not. Is it like, is it too much? Is it a significant disadvantage? What do you think as somebody that's been inside the ropes forever? I don't know. I don't know what he's going to do about it. You're not going to shut them up, that's for sure. So next week it's only going to be worse because, you know, New York, they love, you know, they're vocal.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And that's fine. Oh, yeah. I don't know when it's going to go away. I don't know if, if, or I didn't watch a shot last week, you know, from Memphis. so i'll really know but um man it's it's been quite a shitstorm for him with this brooks and brooks and brice and thing you know i wish they'd almost say like say hey let's have a match let's just have a fucking match whoever wins the other guy's got to shut the fuck up and suck on it for a year the other you know the other guy he gets worn out but no one's really going to
Starting point is 00:47:38 wear up brooks though that's the thing brooks is like the guy's guy You know what I mean? And I think that's where Bryce is kind of disadvantaged. He's all about golf. He's just trying to do his business. He just wants to be a great golfer. This man. Brooks is more, you know, a guy's guy.
Starting point is 00:47:56 You know, he just got engaged. He's having fun. He's got four majors. He's made a fucking ton of bread. You know, he's having fun in life. And Bryce is trying to, like, get back to where the hell he was when he won the U.S. Open. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I don't see it going away. only see the New Yorkers having some fun with them next week. And I just don't, I don't see it calm down any time soon. Do you think, like, in general on tour, among tour players, is there a sentiment of, like, people enjoying to a degree, Bryson getting so much shit because he thinks he's doing it better or different or that he's, he's figured out some answers that none of you other guys have figured out, right? like it feels as an outsider that there's at least some sentiment among a lot of the players of like
Starting point is 00:48:49 this fucking guy thinks he's coming in playing with single leg irons and he's sprits and golf balls and he's doing he's swinging harder he's changing like his fucking nervous system so he could hit it farther like guess what dude like you haven't you don't have all the answers and therefore those people would be in some way kind of enjoying that that person who thought he had all the answers is finding out he doesn't really have all the answers. The only thing I can really say on the whole deal is until you beat Tiger doing whatever he did, and if you've done a different way and be Tiger, then your way is better. That is one way I can look at.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I've always looked at it that way. I don't give a shit what anybody does, how they train, how they practice, how they eat, how they find. I don't even fuck about any of that. if you don't have Tiger's records, then you're ever done anything. That's my opinion because I'm the same age as Tiger. I've seen all these kids come up. I've seen all the grades,
Starting point is 00:49:50 all these next great whatevers are supposed to be. There's still the fucking cat who has everything. I mean, the guy has only played how many years in the last 10 and he still holds all the fucking records? I mean, think about that. Think about if he was like me where he just, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:06 he just played his 20th straight year on top. tour. Fucking guy would have 700 wins. You know, I mean, think about it. This guy has been hurt and had all this bullshit go on and he still has all the stuff that everybody's chasing
Starting point is 00:50:21 and will forever as far as I'm concerned. But nonetheless, I don't like the fact when you think you have all the answers, you think you're smart at everybody. I don't like that. I don't like that because
Starting point is 00:50:36 and let me tell you something I would fucking never do, which pissed me off when he actually did it. I would never go after my main sponsor and say, these guys are fucking, basically saying these guys are fucking assholes that can't make me a driver. Okay, well, you're going, what he needs to do is go after a company like Crank, a company that makes long drive drivers.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Cobra does not make long drive drivers. They make clubs or people that swing like me, okay? they do not they cannot catch up to his fucking bullshit with the five degree drug when you miss a driver at five degrees by the way and it's anything in this department that fucking thing's going that way when you swing and your ball speed 200 miles an hour look at the long drive contest riggs i guarantee you boys all you boys have watched the long drive contest at some point how many ball why do you think they give them fucking eight balls and then of the eight balls how many are actually findable like two maybe they take off that way okay there's a reason why when a guy can actually win a bunch of long drive concepts it's like a goddamn miracle it could actually get a ball in play at 240 miles an hour is unbelievable it's unbelievable now bryson went down that round because he thought that you know he needed the distance all this other bullshit now where's the fucking driver from u.s open
Starting point is 00:52:00 where's the driver from bay hill he just won bay hill in march a few months ago that seemed to work everybody fucking was raw raw when you fucking do this bullshit on six right where's that driver so you cannot go after your company if i was co-operative said you can go fuck yourself you're out i'm kind of surprised that they didn't i mean they they there i i would if i was co-brick did they sort of were like what the bullshit they said like how are we supposed to keep up every day he has a different degree and he's trying to achieve speeds ball speed and like swing speed that we just can't keep up with like one day we sent it to him and the next day he has a new loft and a new and a new swing speed so like
Starting point is 00:52:40 what are we supposed to do no way i mean like his right-hand man there called him like an eight-year-old cry baby i know those guys at cobrough i can promise you between him and his coaches and even tim who took off finally he couldn't fucking take anymore those guys worked their fucking dicks off now if i all of a sudden put on 35 pounds and i got my ball speed of 205 and i called mr bob parsons i said bob i got a lot more fucking speed you know i'm getting ready to come into jams and January in four months. I'm going to have 25 more ball speed. Can we work on something that's going to work with that? Bob, I'm going to fuck you out. Let's do it. But never would I ever go, fuck Bob Parsons and fucking PhD and all this other bullshit. These guys are, you don't do it.
Starting point is 00:53:23 These guys at Coburn have worked their ass off to help him, you know, get his deal. You don't go after the sponsors. You know, I don't give the fuck. What kind of mood you're in or what you think or whatever. If the company's putting that kind of work with you in time, you don't wear them out on national television and embarrass them like they've done nothing. Right. Bryson doesn't. I do know over 20 years. Yeah. Bryson doesn't have very many friends or allies right now. The last thing you need to do is be burning a bridge of a sponsor. Of a sponsor. Your main sponsor, no less. You know, and thankfully, I've got four unbelievable sponsors. And if I got, you know, not that I've had a problem
Starting point is 00:54:01 them but if I do, I go, hey, let's try to make this the best because I'm a team guy. Well, hey, how can we make this better? Let's let's get this going. I'm going to interview with someone goes, hey, you know, what do you think about that? Ah, that's fucking bullshit. It sucks. No, you don't do it. You just don't do it, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And that was embarrassing is all hell at the British Open with Bryce and did for COBRA. I mean, after all they've been through him, the guy, when you're going to, you're going embarrass him like that, it's terrible. It's troubles. I love how your responses are all so perfect for you. Who is it against PXG, Jordan? Who is that?
Starting point is 00:54:38 What's the... I've got... I've got William Murray, I've got MGM resorts. I've got PXG, and I've got... What I said? William Murray, PXG, Jordan, and it fuck's the other one. I don't know. You said it.
Starting point is 00:54:57 MGM. Oh, you got it. You got all four. You got it. Yeah, you got all four. four, just saying only three each time, but you got all four. But it's just so perfectly like Pat Perez. Like, it's almost like, I don't know how that came to fruition.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It's almost like you had a team sit together and like mold your, like, what are all your likes and what are like all, all the things that people know about you? And they just got to get them all. I did them all. I worked, I worked to get them all and I got them. You know, I do my own stuff. I do all my own stuff. But I only, I'm only going to be.
Starting point is 00:55:29 20 years in now, I'm only going to be with companies that I love the people that are there and I believe in what they can do and they're like family with me. So I'm only going to be with people like that going forward because I don't want to say it's not about the money because that's fucking bullshit, but it's about the people that are in the company that you're with. If the people in the company suck, then I don't want to be with them. I actually know and void the contract earlier in the year because I didn't believe in the product and then the guy wanted to be a fucking psycho, so I got out of that. But, you know, like, you know, Bob Parsons, unbelievable man.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You know, Lance Evans and his team at MGM are incredible. You know, William Murray, you know, Bill Murray. I mean, I'm in business with Bill Murray and Michael Jordan. So good. I mean, really? I mean, really? Does it fucking, I mean, do I even have to explain it? I mean, it is.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It's actually funny that the way that you have set up yours seems radical when that's actually how it should be because it's just things that you like. It's everything I love. That's what's amazing. It's everything I love. So it's easy. I couldn't be any luckier. I literally cannot be any luckier.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I'm coming in my 20th season, and I literally have it. I got it by the balls. I never thought I would have some, I never thought I'd have this kind of life. Somehow I do. I'm grateful every day for it. I've got, you know, amazing family, you know, fans. I mean, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's amazing to think that I have people actually care about me outside of my family, you know, about my golf. I mean, my dad just had quintuple bypass surgery three days ago. How's he doing? He's doing great. He's home. He's great. But, I mean, the outloving, you know, the outcry and the love and the support we felt for the last five days has been fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:57:13 The golf world is so amazing in that way because, you know, there's a lot of memes. There's a lot of bullshit that goes on and jokes about that. But when you, you know, you put something serious out there like your dad had, Quinn Tumple, bypass, the world comes again like, hey man, you know, we're pulling for you. We, you know, we love your dad. I mean, it's fucking, it makes you feel
Starting point is 00:57:35 really cool when something like that happens. Like all the jokes aside, all the bullshit and someone, you know, it's a serious matter. It's your father. You know, everyone's got a father. You know, it's like, it's a serious deal. And it was fucking cool that everybody, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:51 gave us well wishes and, you know, because so many people know my dad, because been the starter at the Farmers Insurance Open out for 30 plus years. I mean, it's incredible. He knows everybody. And I was even going to reach out to Tiger because, you know, Tiger looks at him. He gives him a hug every time and sees him.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And, you know, if it was going to go south, I was going to send Tiger a message. Hey, man, I need a, you know, I need a fucking video for my dad. And I guarantee he would have done it. You know, Tiger and we're not the close to friends and we don't have to be. But he loves my dad and, you know, and they give him, you know. But it's shit like that that makes, you know, life, you realize how precious it is, but also how small the golf world is. You know, the golf family, it's, it's small.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It's small. So to make enemies in it is fucking stupid. How old's the baby, Pat? She's almost three. The boy is coming, three weeks. Boy's three weeks out right now. Wow. He's actually supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:58:54 was supposed to come Thursday of next week. Okay. Was supposed to, but the doctor said, you got to wait until September 1. Ash is a little hesitant, and I said, you're fucking waiting. He's conscious of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:59:09 He wants to make sure Dad's going to get through the course. God, if I can say I've got on a decent love next week, and I never really played Liberty National that well. I love it. I play with the fireman. It's the first time that they opened it. I mean, it's such a cool joint effect. Get that fucking status.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Liberty right there. I mean, and then you got New York. I mean, it's such a, it's such a cool joint. I mean, it's such a fucking great joint.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You know, being up in that part of the world is just phenomenal, but it's going to be cool. It's going to be cool. I can't, I can't wait. How do you feel about your game going in?
Starting point is 00:59:42 My game's a lot better than it was seven weeks ago. Seven weeks ago I thought about quite a gossiping. Come on. I was in probably one of the worst spots I've been. Fuck, I can't even tell you how long to be honest with him. and you just wasn't you know Drew and I just weren't really clicking
Starting point is 00:59:58 and you know I saw Claude I saw Claude of Congaree and I said hey man I didn't have fucking help and he helped me and literally every day now I've hit it unbelievable and he's helped me not only get into the playoffs which I really didn't think was possible but now I don't even have to
Starting point is 01:00:16 go to this week at Windham because I'm so far inside the number that you know I'm so looking forward to like the next 15 years of my life. With this kind of knowledge, I can't tell you, the excitement is through the roof. I'm just, I'm just really excited.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I mean, I'm not saying I'm going to win next week or even get to the second playoff because we started so late, but I think next year, you know, I've got such a different mindset of kind of where I want to be. And, you know, I've got like this new purpose in life, you know, with a new boy coming and baby coming, you know, a new golf game. I guess that's a whole new vision of like what's going to happen to now in 60. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Wow. Let's go. That's amazing. What's the go right now. Come on, Pat. P. P. Can you let some of this information out?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Like, what's this like new look on the golf game? Like, is it? Nets. Getting better at golf. Trent recently got better at golf. Is that right, Trent? Yes, I got much, much, much better. And a big part of that was practice.
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Starting point is 01:02:24 And I'm looking at this thing. I'm like, what is this thing? The net return. And I'm like, who sent this to me? I'm looking at it. I'm opening it up. It's got these pipes. It's got these colors. It's got this netting. I'm like, holy crap. This is a fucking golf net. I go to their website. There's this nice man who apparently
Starting point is 01:02:40 made the net. It has a nice tutorial on how to put it together. It seems like it would be incredibly, incredibly hard to do. But you put color to color. the net starts to be put together all of a sudden you have this net in your backyard
Starting point is 01:02:56 it's got our name on it's got the four play logo this thing's phenomenal when I tell you you could swing a ball you could swing a club and hit a golf ball harder than Bryce and Deschambeau does and the ball will just softly sit in the net and bounce right back to your feet
Starting point is 01:03:12 like you wouldn't even notice that this thing was hit at 250 miles an hour the reception of the ball the way that it receives the ball is a technology in which I don't know how they did it. Because I put the net together. I don't know how it's set up for the fact that it's so good that the ball doesn't go through or it goes under or goes over
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Starting point is 01:04:13 You know, Drew and I, we've worked forever. I love Drew like a brother, so I'm not shitting I do it all. I promise you. Drew's like a brother-mate. But we just, you know, the information just wasn't coming around. So I saw a clot. He goes, I see you doing this.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I want you to do this, which was kind of the opposite of what I did. I started, I started to fucking feel it. I started to hit different shots. Like, God damn, this is what the fuck I'm looking for. You know, where the hell is this shit been? So I'm looking for. And the last, you know, seven weeks,
Starting point is 01:04:44 I've been in contention four times. And I'm like, fuck, this is where I used to. to be. This isn't the shit I'm accustomed. I want to be on top. I'm used to being on top. You know, and it's just been nice. I mean, it's not like, you know, it's not like we've spent that much time to get a cloud. And I, we're going to do more next year.
Starting point is 01:05:02 We're going to, you know, we're going to do, we're going to be together for a while now. So, but it was just information that got me in the right spots in the swing to give me a hell of a lot more confident what I'm doing and hit shots, you know, that are in play. I mean, it's really not that complicated game
Starting point is 01:05:20 if you can make it kind of simple. You know what I mean? I mean, and that sounds stupid, I know, but he made it very simple for me to hit shots and go, fuck, I get that. I get that. I mean, that makes it. Why is the fuck?
Starting point is 01:05:33 Because I never heard that before. And, you know, I finished 10th at Congreid, and then I went home. I mean, I, I, I, I drank a whole bottle of work. I couldn't believe I was so fucking excited. I think I've done. I think I'm going to get to these fucking playoffs. I think I'm going to make it.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Because I've never missed a year. This is my 20th year straight. We'll never lose my car. So I'm like, fuck, I can't believe that it's actually going to come through. And sure shit that I finished, I finished 10th, 11th, and 14th with him
Starting point is 01:06:07 in four weeks. And it gave me enough points to get to Liberty National. You know, it was a little late at the timing of it on my part, but at least I'm going to get there. So I don't know if I can get to the 70, which is fine. But, you know, I'm very excited for the next year and the years to come after that because at least I've got another chance again.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I mean, I had literally the longest, shittiest year of my life being away from my wife and baby and being on the road for, you know, 26 weeks just in 2001, or 2021 alone, you know, with COVID and all the other bullshit going on and playing shitty. It's like people don't understand the life. of a tour player if it's not you know john ron winning u s open or fucking you know colom carl winning fucking it's different for the guys that don't win all the time it's a long miserable shitty road that you know but that's all i have that's all i have i don't have no skill i don't have something that i can go out and make a couple million dollars a year doing other than this so
Starting point is 01:07:11 put that you know with the you know new baby coming and wife another baby it's like fuck man it's real shit it's real so the pressure of it is incredible but the relief that I had after after finishing 11th in Minnesota and having enough points I can't tell you, me and A's went to dinner
Starting point is 01:07:31 I looked across and said can you fucking believe that that just happened we're done, we're set, we're in and I fucking I laid that seat on Delta going home and I fucking couldn't even believe I could not believe it but you know I've had some miracles
Starting point is 01:07:47 in my career over 20 years that have happened. My thing you just can't explain that happened. At that day that Claude helped me, because I just happened to run into him. I happen to run into him on the rain and I said, bro, I would love to get some help. It was all right, let's take a look at. And then I play with DJ 18 holes. And then DJ
Starting point is 01:08:06 Vibbivist Day with him and, you know, we had this whole week of like, it's just all kind of like a coming to Jesus type thing. And then I work with like three or four of the weeks and here I'm going to fucking Liberty National again. And I never would have thought it was going to happen because if I stay on the same path seven weeks ago, I'd be sitting here right now telling you what else I'm going to do in life because the career, the golf career would have been over.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Wow. I mean, that's how shitty is. You start getting to a point. Fuck, bro, I'm 45 and change. You start thinking, goddamn, can I get the 50? Because I have lifetime stats basically when I get to 50 on the champ tour. But you've got to get the 50. right it's not that easy you look at most guys careers from 45 to 50 they're shitting right i mean like
Starting point is 01:08:52 ernie riteef allen b apple b all these guys have played all these you know big president's cup and rider cup teams they don't really have these stats like 47 50 they kind of lose it by the point like well fuck man can i even come back can i that do that that da da da da da da da these are questions i have this year like am i am i even going to do it anymore am i worth it can i do it can i pull us out You know, am I too old, my fucking whatever? These are serious things that go on when you get into the 20th year. Plus, you stick a loss to us in there, and it's really dark days, right? Like, we love you, but I would have taken credit for ending your goddamn career.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I really would have. I would have been like, that guy never played golf again after he lost in a four-play. You guys have read you how many times I hear about that? Bro, that punt was fucking brutal on the laugh. I got, I know what problem is that? Yeah, I hit it. Yeah, no. I know. I saw it.
Starting point is 01:09:48 What else we got? We got all kinds of shit. I haven't talked to you guys in months. We got so much action to happen. Dude, we got, we got Olympic stuff. What do you think about that? Oh, I got one for you. What do you think about Mr.
Starting point is 01:10:04 fucking Slovakia, finishing silver? That's kind of a touchy subject, but not really. I mean, I feel like not particularly liked. What do you think? You can't be born in South Africa. You can't have dual citizenship in South Africa and U.S. have a United Kingdom passport. Maria a girl from Slovakia and all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:10:36 fucking hold your goddamn hands up that high because you think you want to fucking silver for Slovakia. Now, don't get me wrong. phenomenal plan. 61. He showed the balls that he has too fucking close because that's what Rory does.
Starting point is 01:10:51 He's not afraid of shit. Rory 17 is not afraid of anything. But should you have been there? That's the question. I mean, no. I would say just outright, no. And the point where, how does he even feel good about it?
Starting point is 01:11:07 Like Rory Malko even said, I wouldn't have felt going because I wouldn't be proud to have the, national anthem for England or for Northern or for anybody. I told everybody, you couldn't give me, I don't know what you gave me.
Starting point is 01:11:22 You could give me nothing on this entire planet to represent another country other than the United States. I don't give a fuck what you gave me. I don't care if you gave me. It's not matter what you gave. You couldn't give me anything to represent anything other than the greatest country in the world where I've lived in right now the United States of America. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:42 100 million dollars. The fucking standing like this with the fucking thing playing. This motherfucker doesn't even know what the fuck, any of the words are for the entire fucking national anthem. 100 million dollars are not going to play for Canada? Not a fucking chance. Wow. I don't need a hundred million dollars.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I know. I got a lot of money. I don't know 100 playing. I got enough. But you give me a fucking billion dollars. I'm not going to Canada. I'm not going to fuck Ethiopia. I'm not going to, I'm not going anywhere.
Starting point is 01:12:07 What about you, Frankie? You know why? You know what? Frankie, I got this for it because when you stand on a fucking, when you stand on that fucking podium and you're standing going motherfucker I'm not from this country but and everybody knows it
Starting point is 01:12:21 everybody fucking knows it and it's going to feel shitty because everybody fucking knows it that's why you get to feel shit when it comes to the Olympics I agree like the Olympics are all about like you playing for your country and at that point
Starting point is 01:12:36 like there really shouldn't be you shouldn't be reaching to try and get onto a podium trying to get into contention the Olympics are something that's so specific to like guys guys and girls work their fucking lives their entire lives just to just to just to wear those track suits during that opening ceremony and i love i love the Olympics the ancient greeks all that stuff about it i just love everything about the olympiad is my new thing i'm calling
Starting point is 01:13:01 it yeah i agree with you he should not have been able to um sing the national anthem for i mean getting married into a country is preposterous i'm sorry like that's the fact that's just not true the fucking guy that runs in golf. I mean, the whole thing worked out perfor. I got this for him. The thing that worked out perfect for him, where her brother was the guy that leads the fucking golf and the whole deal, he would have never done it.
Starting point is 01:13:23 He would never done it. I mean, everybody knows him. He's South African. I don't even fuck how long you live in the United States in Dallas with his ex-wife. He is from South Africa. Yet none of South Africans really might take to him because he's not
Starting point is 01:13:38 in South Africa, right? Or whatever. But nonetheless, I mean, he's got a United Kingdom passport, right? He's got dual citizenship in the U.S. and fucking South Africa. How in the hell could you possibly go and feel good about yourself being from Slovakia? So, Frankie, to confirm the flip-flop, you're saying no to the $100 million. I'd have to really sit down and think about that one, all right? At first I said I'd take six figures.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I heard that. I mean, 100 milo guys, like for, I do like Canada. I mean, I like hockey. But I don't know. 100 million dollars to win a gold medal in golf for Canada? I'm doing a heart. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:14:28 I was going to say, I don't think I'm in a position to turn down a hundred million dollars. I don't think I'm there. I love America. I'm a huge U.S. guy. Don the stars and strives red white and blue all the time, but 100 million dollars, I moved in Bermuda. I'll move to fuck. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:14:43 You wear an American pick? Let me ask this question because I had a decent debate with John Rob on this. Where do you actually put a gold medal win in the Olympics as far as wins in golf? Like where do you guys, I don't know if you guys, I'm sure you guys had a special on this. But where do you put that win? You put it like a like a. like a barracuda win do you put it a little higher
Starting point is 01:15:14 a little lower you put it it's not Memphis we know that it's not a fucking major we know that it's not a gustum so where do you guys put a gold medal win so we discussed it right before the Olympics and we had basically the exact same conversation
Starting point is 01:15:30 I think we settled on and it kind of depended each guy but like somewhere similar maybe to like a PGA tour like Bay Hill or something of that nature. Maybe a little higher, maybe like for us as fans.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Not for you guys, but us as fans. It's not even close to Bay Hill. It's not even far as close. So that's interesting because we said what Riggs said, but then we said to the players, we thought it would probably mean more, but it sounds like you might be saying different. But Pat, are you taking like the field into
Starting point is 01:16:03 like consideration? First of all, there's only how many guys were there? 60. Something like that. Yeah, I think it was 60. How many of the 60 were in the top 200? Not all of them. I know that. You know that because the two Indian guys were $500.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Okay. And then so how many guys, how many guys, how many guys, we know the four were in the top 10 for the U.S. We know that. Rom did get to go, okay? Bryson did get to go. DJ. Here's how I classify this type of thing.
Starting point is 01:16:37 When you have top players in the world turning it down, that's bad. Okay. Ron, he was going to go because he knows that it was important for Spain
Starting point is 01:16:48 that to the mob. Rory only went because he fucking basically got bullied into it or guilted into it for not playing for, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:58 Ireland. That we know. Okay. But if you look at the other countries, our top Americans didn't go. You know,
Starting point is 01:17:07 how many top players were there? of the 60. Yeah. I'm not trying to take anything away. I'm not trying to take it away from Xander. It's a win. It's a win.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Would he tell you that it's bigger than winning in Memphis last week? Not a chance of hell. Not a chance. But I would say like Rory came out and said that he was wrong. Like he's like, yeah, my, you know, thoughts about it over the last four or five years, missing it last time. Now that I'm here and I've been a part of it. this is one of the most special things I've ever been a part of that I changed my mind.
Starting point is 01:17:43 But special, special, and the equivalent of how big the win is are different. It is special. Don't get me wrong. If you're from the right country, it's going to be special. Like if you're from Slovakia, it's going to be special, right? Yeah. I would also say, though, I think it's interesting. I would guess that for someone like,
Starting point is 01:18:09 Zander, I feel like the gold medal would be, he would take that over a lot of PGA Tour wins because he doesn't need a lot of the stuff that you get from PGA Tour wins versus someone else who the couple of years of status and the million and a half or two million dollars will mean more, whereas Zander's sort of reaching a level where he's just adding up, you know, accomplishments now. I mean, he's going to be set forever. So I wonder how much that would factor in where like the prestige of an Olympic big gold medal versus the actual perks that come with winning a PGA tour event.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Like he doesn't need those perks. He doesn't need to like have a couple years of exemptions. He doesn't need, you know, the extra million or whatever. He like has all this other stuff. He's going to have all that for 20 or 30 years. I wonder how much that would factor in. How many major is Zander? I was waiting for that one.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Does Zander have? Yeah. I know the answer. Do you? I know the answer, but I don't know that that has anything to do with. How he compares a regular tour of it versus how many made this brook have? How many made this this is his brooks have? He's got four.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Who decided to go and who decided not to? You see, like, this is exactly what we, I read, I read this article from Aiman Lynch last week. It's not about reading. It's fucking exactly that. You're taking off, you're taking people that, like, and I'm going to quote Aiman Lynch here, like, you are taking the review of a person that never ate at the restaurant. Because, like, you heard that maybe it's not good or maybe you went to a restaurant. No, no, no, no. They don't fucking care about it.
Starting point is 01:19:42 They don't care about it. Because they've never went. Like, Deson Johnson has never gone. So it's like, how could you ever take his? He doesn't fucking care about it. Because he's never experienced it. Like, that's the argument that we're trying to make. It's like, Rory went and experienced it.
Starting point is 01:19:54 He's like, it's fucking awesome. They also went. They also got invited to go when it was fucking terrible. There's only been two in the last, how many years, 140 years? And they've both been fucking shitty. There's been nobody there. There's been nobody there. Now, if you had full deal, they could go and watch the other sports, all the other fucking bullshit that goes on, maybe all the top players would have gone.
Starting point is 01:20:18 But they got invited in the last two times where it's the shittiest, absolute shittiest time to go to the Olympics. So that's probably why not. Now, the other top players, the other top athletes of the entire world of the other fucking sports, they go because they have to go at that time. rowing, you know, sand volleyball, you know, all these other things. They have to go because there is no other window for them. There is no other time for them doing anything. So they have to go. DJ was number one in the world for a long fucking time.
Starting point is 01:20:51 He's number one, you know, again, wrong. He got fucking this bullshit COVID thing. So he couldn't get to go. Deschambo, same thing. Brooks turned it down. Rory, reluctant to go. You know, if you look at these things, it's not about, you know, you know, you know, cannot compare these things to a major or winning, you know, a PJ tour event.
Starting point is 01:21:13 You cannot measure it that way. I'm not taking anything away from Xander because he won. But Rory finished fucking, he lost in a playoff. So what did he get out of the whole thing? What did he actually get? What the fuck that he didke get? Hadeki should have probably won. He didn't get anything out of it.
Starting point is 01:21:31 They got memories. They got memories for a lot of time. We got these other two poor bastards. Sung-Ji and Siwu who now have to go to fucking military because of it. That's the stupid thing I've heard in my life.
Starting point is 01:21:46 If you qualify, if you want a player's championship and you've qualified to the Olympics, that's enough to not go to the fucking military. Now, that's me looking at it. Now, Sewu has to report within two years now and disappear.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Now, Sung-J, Stang Moon Bay And some you'll know Exactly what that's like They couldn't play dead in the western out. They went away for two years And these guys are literally fucking almost out of the game. And Sang Moon,
Starting point is 01:22:17 he played the President's Cup before he left. How was that not important enough for the country To go, we need this fucking guy to represent our country. This is something we all agree on, by the way. We talked about this couple weeks ago Where it's just like They seem far more useful promoting their country as one of the best golfers in the world,
Starting point is 01:22:36 as opposed to having to do mandatory military service. I just, we pumped this guy like crazy. He's got a podcast, but his name is Joe Rogan just had a North Korean defector on his show. And I'm halfway through it. Boys, there's shit going on over there on that side of the world that, like, they may need all the bodies they could possibly get to be fighting, like, for their, like, rights and freedom on South. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:01 Like, there's some crazy. shit that's going on just on that side of the world that like man i would be afraid to not go to like that's why they are just reporting you know what i mean but i've asked but i've asked son jay i've asked siwu and i asked sang loombe i asked all of them i said then why don't you just not go back i said your parents are here anyway in dallas they go ah no fuck they they come with some fucking bullshit but you know obviously when you're 26 and you're from a country I get it. We don't have those mandatory things like, you know.
Starting point is 01:23:33 You get like, don't they get like ruthlessly publicly shamed forever if they do that? They may, but I mean, you know, there's different levels of people in every country, you know, there just is.
Starting point is 01:23:45 When you won a player's championship and you've qualified for the fucking Olympics in a sport, that to me means exemption for one guy. Okay? It doesn't mean you're going to have a thousand of those guys, but one guy, you just go look, see who you're going to pay.
Starting point is 01:23:59 a 50% tax for the next three years, you know, because you're not going to do military, so you're going to fucking fund our deal. Okay, fine. He would do that hard. He'd give you 100% of the money. I guarantee you. I know CWU very well. Another Claude guy, he would pay 100% of all his money to not go to this fucking deal.
Starting point is 01:24:17 But my whole point, the whole thing was I was trying to figure out where you guys thought the Olympics was in the whole deal because when you don't, when you have top players turning the shit down, to me, that's a sign of going, it's just not that important. And you're so new to us, which sucks. Like, I just think that you got to give it some time. Like, and I think guys have to bite the bullet and just go to make it have its prestige. The prestige of the Olympics are there. The personal accomplishment of winning a gold medal is there.
Starting point is 01:24:48 It's just, we're always going to have the argument, like, was it enough because of the field? And that's honestly on the guys. That's on the guys on the PJ tour. That's their fault. Like you'll never get the procedure unless they just show up. Once those guys show up, it will just be at that level that we want it to be. It'll be like a tour event. It'll be right there with a major.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Novak Djokovic talks about how it's the perfect ending to his career, being able to have medals next to his Grand Slam majors because he's beating the best in the world. It is like the best feeling to cap off your career with gold medals. Like wouldn't that be an awesome cap off to like Rory Macquarie's career or race in Deschambeau? But that's on them. That's their fault for not showing up. It's not the fucking Olympics. I'm telling you right now, if I qualified, I'd fucking be there a heartbeat.
Starting point is 01:25:35 So I'm not taking anything away from Xander's win. I promise you. I'm not. It's an incredible accomplishment. He's going to have his entire life. I mean, fucking ask Michael Phelps, how he's doing with his medals. Ask him if he thinks are important. Of course he does.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah. I know Michael very well. I've talked about him all the time. Of course he does. But when it comes to fucking golf, see swimming you got to remember the other sports they don't have these big
Starting point is 01:26:02 massive things we have them every week bro we got them every fucking week okay we got them every week and then you have four majors and you've got four WGCs so when you put the Olympics in there and you've got guys in fucking India and all these other you know countries that
Starting point is 01:26:18 never get into a PGA tour field it diminishes the value of the win whether you want to believe it or not So, yeah, I think we're with you on that. And Frankie's point is like, well, we have to grow it. Like the players have to grow that experience to show it off to make it the pinnacle because it is like in all those other sports, it is the pinnacle.
Starting point is 01:26:40 The thing that I guess it's a shame that it fell on the last two deals where nobody could go and the fucking bullshit and all this other bullshit. It's a shame that that's why it went down. down that route. You know, everybody's working about, worried about fucking Zika. I mean,
Starting point is 01:27:00 not one person got fucking Zika when they were down there. So that's why a lot of guys that go. Now this time, COVID, oh, the fucking testing,
Starting point is 01:27:06 that's that, that's about. Yeah. Nobody had COVID while they were there. Not one Olympian. These are the elite of the fucking elite of the elite. Now imagine it was that crowd. Imagine it was the best of the world.
Starting point is 01:27:18 One through 50 in the top world rank is we're all in the Olympics. And the guy from India ended up winning. How amazing of a story. It would be. amazing right that's like that is why it would be worth it to keep i want to see i want to see the top 50 in the right world they have to look like the olympics are like hey we have this event come and they're just like no like we'll never get there like it's well and i asked i ask you know i i know these guys
Starting point is 01:27:41 so well dj brooks these other i'm like why the fuck would you guys not go but see why would rory pay it's like ah fuck you know he's basically paying like ah fucking being forced to go see Lowry, he couldn't wait to go. You know, these guys can't wait to go. I would fucking pack, I'd go right now. How would you change the format? Would you change the format at all? Like, how would you make this worth it?
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Starting point is 01:29:32 incentives for just playing golf. Like, you're going to book a tea time anyway. Download the Barstool Tea Time app. It's as simple as that. It is that simple. It's kind of crazy if you wouldn't do it. You'd be a moron. Book your tea time now by downloading our new Barstool Golf Time app available now in the app store. In my opinion, it should be a team form. at anyway. We have, we have enough single events in our deal, you know, but you look at like swimming, right? You got, you got, you got butterfly, you got fucking freestyle, you get all these fucking deals, and then you got the four-man fucking relay, which everybody loves. I fucking love that more than anything. The track and field, you know, four, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:12 four by a hundred relay. I mean, I love that shit. Actually, the best thing is the synchronized. The synchronized I had to, I couldn't fucking find anybody to do what I do dumbing off a dive board, but nonetheless. But see, those are the kind of things that makes the Olympics great, because it's a sports you don't see all the time. We have 48
Starting point is 01:30:35 tournaments on the PGA tour, okay? So you're just kind of watching another sport. That's like, that's my gripe with it. It feels like what we see 50 times a year. And at some level, it's like,
Starting point is 01:30:51 All right, mix it up. Why don't they do what they do in college? It should be like two or three days of stroke play. You have stroke play individual champions. And then you get to like a match play with 16 teams and you narrow it down to one. That'd be fucking awesome. My counterpoint to that is when MJ was with the Olympics and they were winning gold. People loved it.
Starting point is 01:31:12 It's the same fucking sport they watch 81 times a year on the same team. That's just because the best players in the world went there, dominated. And it was like the biggest thing of all time. Isn't amazing if USA basketball team can send their fucking C team and still win? That's what's unbelievable. It's amazing how good that that fucking sport is in our deal. And the women's is even more dominant. The women's basketball team is the most dominant sport in the Olympics.
Starting point is 01:31:38 What I would say is the, the, my counter would be like, it'd be like, to me, Frankie, it'd be like if those same teams from the NBA went and just played as the same teams against the same teams, like seven games over two weeks. Because they're watching a bunch of great players who you normally wouldn't see play together. Right. Whereas what's different about that is that they're actually like different players playing together.
Starting point is 01:31:59 What's different? Why do you think that the Ryder Cup and the President's Cup are the most, literally the most watch thing by each country because it's such a different deal because you see team coming together. That to that, dot, da, dot, dot. If the Olympics was that way,
Starting point is 01:32:17 it would be the same way. you've got you've got a few individuals and that's about i want to see a different rick what you said is like perfect you do a qualifying you do like a 16 man deal like every other sport does the Olympics it would be phenomenal we've already got 50 not 50 we do have 48 tournaments coming up there are there's one match play deal so there's 49 tournaments of single individual events The Olympics needs to be completely different. Completely different. I like that.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah, and they made that format. Like, they just invented that format in college, basically, for TV. And it is delivered. Like, the college. It's phenomenal. The women's in the middle. The way it finishes up is awesome. Yeah, we won national 96.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Tiger won the individual. It's like nobody really cared about, I don't know, I don't even wrong. I'm not saying they don't care of it. They kind of care, but it wasn't as big as Tiger winning the individual as it was us winning the team. because the team got together, Tiger went and fucking grabbed, you know, himself because he was by himself.
Starting point is 01:33:24 The team thing is the deal there in the fucking in, in, uh, dude, in the college, you have them like hooting and hollering from the greens. They're like hooting and hollering back to their players behind them, like doing their school. You know,
Starting point is 01:33:36 I remember like the Mississippi State girls were like doing the bark back to their, like everybody's going crazy. So that type of environment feels like golf is missing that in the Olympics. Like the most camaraderie that you get. is in the practice route when they like play practice rounds together. The PJ, we are missing that. We are missing that a lot, first of all, because people associate with that kind of stuff. Because everything that, you know, basically the fan watch is a team deal.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Like right now, they're watching their training camps to see where their team's going to be coming up because the first game is tomorrow, you know, preseason game and all that stuff. That's the kind of stuff. Like I said, when Tiger walked off and won the national champions, He just kind of went to his car and left. I got to celebrate with my coach and four other players, and we had a fucking hell of the time, even though Tiger felt better because he beat the shit out of all of us.
Starting point is 01:34:28 But there's very few times in this sport, our sport is two individual. But if you can make it, you know, like I watched the rolling, the first two days of the Olympics. I'm like, fuck, all four of those girls are together. They're all together. They're all rowing. They're fucking ass off and this and that. when you start watching individual sports,
Starting point is 01:34:50 you know, I'm involved in individual sport. And when it comes to golf, we have 47 individual events every year. The last thing you want to fucking watch is another individual events. The Olympics should be a team event. If they don't like it, you know what? I don't have to tell you.
Starting point is 01:35:06 But I actually think that they would be, I think there would be more people would be behind them. Yeah, I agree with that. What do you think? I agree with that. I think, I think, I think, I think we got some answers there. I think that was the right way to go.
Starting point is 01:35:19 And I'm not putting down the Olympics. I'm not putting down the Olympics. I'm not putting down the standards. It's a great win. He's going to have a medal his entire life. I just don't put it up there with a major or a WGC or a FedEx win or anything like that because the field is just not there. In my opinion, he beat 15 players. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 01:35:39 But that's actually who he beat was 15 players. What did you think about all the talk with the, like a lot of people, I think because a lot of Olympic fans, Maybe it's like their first time watching a lot of golf or something. They said that the caddy should be getting a gold medal as well. Fuck, no. Until you hit a shot, you get a fucking metal. That's a good call.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yep. I mean, we said like the caddy doesn't get a fucking green jacket. The problem with a lot of these guys today, they think they're so fucking cool and special because they're making so much money. That's the difference in what's going on. You know, the Tony DeVarro's the guys are back in the day, the Steve Williams, the guys that fucking, you know, worked their ass off and made like a $15,000 check because the money wasn't there until Tiger came in.
Starting point is 01:36:21 They're the same guy. But the fact these guys are making so much money today, they think they're so special because they're making so much money. You're no different than the caddies back in the 80s, Bruce Edwards of the day, right, with Tom Watson. He was a phenomenal caddy, right? You know, but these guys think they're so cool because they're making so much bread. And, you know, they think they're like a different level. I'm making so much money. I'm fucking different.
Starting point is 01:36:47 No, you're not. You haven't hit a shot yet. You haven't hit a shot. I mean, I got a pissing match with Steve Williams one day. You know, I play a Paxhaw a Tiger. He's like, oh, fuck, you think you're fucking, da-da-da. You know, all you want is to Bob Hope. I said, you know what, Steve?
Starting point is 01:37:01 I won one more fucking tournament that you have. I said, you know what difference in me, Steve? I don't hear every fucking shot that week. I said, fuck, I can get anybody cat at the tiger. At the time? At the time. This is like 15 years ago. This is like 09, right?
Starting point is 01:37:17 I said, fuck, I can anybody catch the tiger. This is the greatest players ever walk the earth. Right? I said, I've won one more than you. I hit every fucking shot. You stand over here and watch your boy fucking flag it every time. So, yeah, I've only won the hope. And if you want to qualify that, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:37:37 But I said, I hit every fucking shot that week. Really glad I'm really glad you done. I'm not saying, you should have got my boy. My boy age is the fucking best. That motherfucker has been with me from the start. But you know what? He never thinks he's too big for business. He never thinks he's too fucking cool.
Starting point is 01:37:55 But he's family. And I'm not really talking to shit about the caddies, but there are some out there. I'm not going to mention names tonight. But there are some guys that really think they're fucking incredible because their player is amazing. A few more glasses of whiskey. We might be able to get some caddy names.
Starting point is 01:38:11 We might get there. If we stay on a few more hours, it'll happen. I mean, you're just, yeah, you're, like, everyone thinks that. I mean, at some point, like, you just know that. The guy's not fucking playing. And if he's getting cocky or he's getting crazy, it's ridiculous. I mean, there's always a level that caddy can get to, right, of, like, of respect when it comes to, like, how much they actually put into the win. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:32 And I think, the good caddies know that. Like, um, they don't know. They don't know that. They don't know that. But, Frank, you were right. That question originally, the Olympic, the question, should they get a medal? That came from non-golf people who are. watching.
Starting point is 01:38:45 There's no fucking chance in hell that those guys should get a medal. Not a chance in hell. Same reason they don't get a green jacket or a piece of the youth trophy. Yeah, did fucking Steve Williams get a fucking green jacket? No. Should you have gotten to pocket square? Maybe. And nobody's shitting on caddies.
Starting point is 01:39:02 If you want a green jacket, go play in the Masters and win the Master. Pat has now stood up and walked away. I'll tell exactly what the fuck Steve Williams should get right here. He hates Steve Williams. I love Steve Williams. I do. Here you get a fucking clock. Damn, that thing's a nice.
Starting point is 01:39:19 You get a clock. Is that set to the right time or what? It's master's clock. It's always the right time. It's always the right time, no matter what it says. That's what you get. You get a fucking master's clock. That master's clock is sweet.
Starting point is 01:39:33 And, Rick, like you were saying, we're not diminishing the caddies in any way. No, no. I am not. But if you think you deserve a gold medal, then go win a gold medal. I have not to miss you.
Starting point is 01:39:45 All my friends have great caddies. There are great caddies on the tour now. They've worked their fucking ass off. They do a great job. My boy is the fucking best. So I'm not to miss you guys at all, but you know what? He would not expect a fucking, you know, gold medal. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:06 He would not expect a gold medal. And the Olympics are great, but you know what? Should golf be in there? I actually don't know. to be honest with the whole deal because we have world events we have world events all the time think about it we always we have world events we have four world events every year that are i mean infinitely better feel every time we have them other than the olympics so that is my argument on the thing is it a great win no i don't think it's that great a win i just i just gotta highlight it more
Starting point is 01:40:43 like let's like let's get us let's get a place where the olympics are at where the course like runs through all the olympic stadiums or like it's right there where you can see like the baseball stadium and the swimming like the awkward way right that's what i mean like it's in the city with a thousand fans let's get the top players period from all the countries if we can get all the top players and if we can get top players that don't turn it down because oh fuck i've got like a four or five week stretch coming up or You know, Vakabata. I mean, Ron wasn't even that upset. He wasn't even that pissed. He's like, oh, I got fucking next week. He took a three-week break. He didn't play last week in Memphis. He's like, oh, I got fucking all the playoffs coming up.
Starting point is 01:41:25 I got Ryder Cup coming up. I got all this shit. You know, why? Because the Ryder Cup means more of those guys than anything. The Limbinson means shit. The Ryder Cup, to beat the United States, means more than anything to those European players. I promise you.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Pat, you ever got it, boy? Your caddy, you ever got your caddy anything, like outside of just, like, money payments? Like, I know, uh, kids, I think kids one time, like, I don't know if it was like a truck or something for Dewey that he, like, got as part of a tournament that he, like, gave to Dewey, or you ever, maybe even like an apology, ever been like a dick and you got got him something? That's like, uh, I never, I've never, I've never a dick to him because he's, he's a fucking best. But when I won, I won my first term, I got him a, I got a, I got a rammed truck. I got a rammed truck.
Starting point is 01:42:13 I feel like that's a big cat. Caddies love trucks. Well, I think, so I won. I'll do your truck. I mean, it was a Chrysler tournament, right? So I turned in my Chrysler and my boy down here, Jay. I said, bro, I got to get my boy a truck. He loves trucks. He got a Ford 150.
Starting point is 01:42:28 It was fucking terrible. I said, we got to get him a tundra. He goes, all right, give me the car. I'll fucking take care of it. And we've got him a tundra. But I have, you know, I bought him a Rolex. You know, but I have another thing in plan. I can't really, I can't really talk about another thing
Starting point is 01:42:44 and plan for him, but let me put this. My boy, when he's done, I'll not have to worry about a lot. But you also talk about a guy that with the longest, with the longest commander-in-chief group of anybody. I mean, I went to high school.
Starting point is 01:43:04 I met this guy in 1990. Okay? He kind of for me in U.S. junior, junior, Rams. He kept me in US AM qualifiers. He kept me in college. He's carried for me professionally. This is going to be our 21st year. This is not just some fucking smow off the goddamn street. I mean, this is my guy. So I have a thing in place for him that when we get the champ tour, he's going to be very fucking happy. That's amazing because you have such a eccentric, like in your face personality. I'm so surprised. that someone's been able to, you guys have been able to mesh, right? I mean,
Starting point is 01:43:43 you're probably even surprised at this point. Frankie, we couldn't be any more fucking opposite. I mean, I will drink until I fall over. This motherfucker will never do. You know what I mean? This motherfucker,
Starting point is 01:43:55 he carries a king, he puts a camera in the goddamn bass in case somebody cuts him off. I don't want to, I don't want a fucking camera because when I run some of my hammer, I don't want any fucking video up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:06 That kind of thing. I mean, it's like, it's so, We're so opposite to joke. It couldn't be any more opposite. But he's the fucking greatest human being there is on the planet. Everybody loves him. You know, he's just the fucking best.
Starting point is 01:44:22 My wife loves him more than me. I guarantee it. And that's perfect. But you know what? We're a rare breed. I mean, these poor caddies, you know, there's some great caddies out there to get rins left and right for who even knows what reason. You know what?
Starting point is 01:44:37 it's just there's not a lot of guys like me out there I promise you I fucking promise you where did you make of the of the Tim Tucker
Starting point is 01:44:45 Bryson thing I think Tim Tucker won and I said I said if Tim Tucker Tucker leaves after when Tim Tucker left I said I don't think
Starting point is 01:44:54 Bryce can do this on his own but so far right and that's not a shot to Bryson you know what because I think Bryson
Starting point is 01:45:03 I think Bryson's phenomenal player I think he's got you know, I think he has a bright future head of him. But Tim Tucker was his fucking anchor. H is my anchor. If age leaves me, I know I can't fucking do it. I don't think Bryson realized that he can't do it without his fucking anger.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Right. You need people like that. You know, you might not like Bryson wasn't realize it, but you need people like that. He might be realizing that now. You're never fucking bigger than your team. If you think you're bigger your team,
Starting point is 01:45:37 you're going to fucking lose. I got news for you. You know what? It's just the fucking way it is. I think, I think Bryce's phenomenal player. I think he's had a hell of a stretch.
Starting point is 01:45:48 I don't know how long that stretch is going to last. But, you know, I just don't know. Tim Tucker is, you know, a hell of a nice guy. Phenomenal guy. I think he got pushed to the edge, and that was it.
Starting point is 01:46:03 He's like, fucking I'm out. And when he left, I'm like, I don't know if this fucking guy can do all this show on his own. And sure is shit, what we've seen so far, why she can't do it on his own? So I don't know, I don't know if there's been an offer made back to bring him back, but I would make the fucking big offer to get his ass back.
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Starting point is 01:48:53 I think he was like 19 years old. He lost his eyesight, which is obviously terrible. So I looked it up, our very own Frankie Borrelli, is an 8.5, I believe, handicapped index. So who do you think? would win in a match this blind Jeremy. Jeremy was a three before he went blind, so I mean, he was a stick. That's fair point.
Starting point is 01:49:16 So he knows he's blind. I mean, he can't, you can't see. Is he a New York, is he a New York Islander fan? No, I don't think so. Where's this guy from? Then he wins, that he wins on Mackle. Am I crazy? I think he might have tweeted at me the other day.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Oh, yeah, we've been talking. talking about this guy for years, man. I'm not on Twitter, so I don't know what I'm going on there. Well, we originally had a debate like, Rory McElroy, where was he in Dubai? And he was like, I could play this golf course like the back of my hand. I could play it blindfolded, he said. That's all false. I took that very seriously.
Starting point is 01:49:55 I said, no, you couldn't. He wouldn't even make the cut. Frank, you're right. You're goddamn right there. So we got into this whole debate. No, you couldn't fucking play blindfolded. You need to see the golf ball. We, everyone on this show, Riggs was like, he could.
Starting point is 01:50:06 If you just place the ball in front of him, he knows where it is. I'm like, what happens? He's in a fucking bunker. Which, the Jeremy guy, though, does have that. He has, like, a, I looked it up. He has, like, a guide. He has, like, a guide who points him in the right direction. And then he just-
Starting point is 01:50:20 When Jeremy comes out of the clouds, once we're arguing about this, he's like, actually, I can't see shit. And I shot, like, a 74 last week. And we're like, well, now, what the fuck? Like, who the fuck is this guy? So now he's coming back into the fold because he just got into single digits. It's been his, like, life goal. to prove everyone wrong, which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Shout out to Jeremy. I'll play him in a match. And if I lose, I have to go away forever, I guess, because, like, you can't lose to a blind guy in golf. Also, we're going to have to figure out, like, the rules. Can he just be, like, set up? Can I have a caddy set me up to, like, you can have a putt?
Starting point is 01:50:53 You can have him. I got this for him. I have friends all over the world that got sent him up right down the fucking middle, and that ball and go down the middle. So it's a lot more than just fucking set up. I got this for him. Well, a shout out to him for being able to fucking have a nine handicapped. You know what?
Starting point is 01:51:10 I'll take him on my team instead of the fucking owner or something. I'll take him. Me and him are going to play you four. Oh, my God. Now, what hell are you guys actually coming out? Riggs, I know you're here. When are we going to do this? Well, look, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:51:25 We actually can play this weekend if you're around. I'm back in Arizona for the first time. I'm playing Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So any day you want. Let's play this weekend. And then we're also going to see. you all week out at Liberty National. We're going to be there all week, the whole squad. You know it's coming to follow me
Starting point is 01:51:39 on, I think Cici's coming out to walk with me one day. Really? Sabathia. Yeah. Okay. So, what day you guys are you out? So we'll be there Monday through Friday and then we should, we got
Starting point is 01:51:53 to set up this fall. I mean, we're pretty, you know, whatever, we're just all over the map, but October, November, December, I feel like one of those times similar to last year, we could set up the rematch. it's Silver Leaf. Silver Leaf is sick.
Starting point is 01:52:08 No, it's going to be sick. We're going to see it this weekend. Bro, we've got so much rain here, it's fucking amazing. How much rain we've got in the last month? The course, by the time you guys come out, it's going to be unbelievable. I'm going to do it at Friday.
Starting point is 01:52:20 You want to play Friday? Yeah, I'm in for Friday. Amazing. Let's do it. It's my birthday. I've been playing well. I've been playing the best I've played. Bro, your swing looks unbelievable,
Starting point is 01:52:32 and your other boy broke 100. I don't know about the lefty yet, but I know Lourge gets his bounces, but I'm telling it. My swing is okay right now, although there's a viral video going around of me double hitting yesterday. It was a nasty one. I can't believe in the science. I mean, 85 yards out, double hit. Never see anything really like. The middle of the fairway.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Middle of the fairway. It's nuts. Terrible. So who's going to, so one of the last points. Who's going to win the FedEx? John Ram. I think John Ram's the best golfer on the planet. He's proved it every single week.
Starting point is 01:53:11 I mean, every major you look back on, we use this term a lot, laugh out loud, funny that this guy's been in contention for every major he's ever played in, essentially. He's the best golfer in the planet. Yes, I don't know if you saw my thing with Claude, but that's exactly what I said, because everybody said, oh, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:28 Claude said, who's the best? I said, I'll give him more Cal, JT, fucking speed. I'll give him all. I said, Rom is the best player in the game today. But my second point to that is that Roy McElroy is still and will be, I don't know for how many years, he is still the second best coming I've seen the Tiger yet. He makes the fucking game look so easy. How that fucker doesn't win six, seven times a year, I'll never know.
Starting point is 01:54:01 but Rom is the best player you know don't give it wrong DJ is fucking phenomenal DJ's phenomenal you know he's my boy but Rom
Starting point is 01:54:13 I still think is the best player he's better Moracalla he's better JT speed fucking wolf you name any young player I don't go fuck who it is Rom's the best player I don't care if Markella's got two or not
Starting point is 01:54:26 it doesn't matter Rom is going to be in the top ten his entire career if he does not get hurt. You grew up with Tiger and you know Tiger like anyone. We've talked to Morikawa a bunch now. And one of the first things we always say every time we leave him, we say this kid's got it.
Starting point is 01:54:44 There's something about him. He's got this crazy confidence. He's the most polite guy on the planet. But he also seems like nothing. He never waivers. And he's proved that now. He's winning majors. The guy's proving it.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Do you think that he has that? Have you seen that from him? Do you think he has any of that mentality, like the I'm just going to keep winning and not count and whatever I end up at the end up with. I don't know if he has or not. I know he doesn't have Tiger stuff. I know that. I think Ron has that stuff.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Wow. You know, I haven't been around Morikawa that much. He's a very nice kid. Don't get wrong. Phenomenal player. Very nice. You know, maybe he's got that fuck you and him when it comes to, you know, when it needs to be.
Starting point is 01:55:25 You know, Tiger always had that fuck you. He was like, fuck you. I'm going to win. And I don't give him. a fuck about you at all. And that was fine. Moracow is a very nice player. You know, I don't know if he has it or not. I don't know if he
Starting point is 01:55:38 has it or not. The other one I've seen that has that is John Rom. John Romm has that. Fuck you. I mean, this motherfucker kicks clubs, throws shit and practice rounds at us, you know, with us a silver leaf. You know, I mean, he gets fucking pissed when it's a bad shot.
Starting point is 01:55:56 To me, it doesn't even bother me. I like that because that means he wants to get his shit right. So I think the guy in the future, you know, is John Lowe. I really do. You know, I mean, Speed, Jordan, fucking Moracawa. I mean, I don't even know. Fucking pick him.
Starting point is 01:56:18 I don't care. Do you think, do you ever think like Rory's almost too normal to be like as dominant as Tiger? But I mean, like, as a person, right? He's very, seems to like, the way he responds to questions and thinks through things about the world. He seems to be more. He might have other interest, not other interests, but like he is interested in other things. More so than a Romer of Tiger Woods, right? Like Tiger Woods was, I guess what I'm getting at is it seems like Roy has that talent that, you know, is close in some way to like the tiger.
Starting point is 01:56:53 But he doesn't have like, yeah, he's almost too human, whereas Tiger was never human. Rory has the most talent of anybody I've seen since Tiger and I'm talking since 1994. Rory has that kind of, he has the closest talent to Tiger I've ever seen since 1994. Rory is too fucking nice. He's not the prick that Tiger was or that Rom has or that fucking these other guys. And I'm not talking about a prick like, you know, if you walk by and ask him the time, you tell you the fuck off.
Starting point is 01:57:26 I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the prick on the course. I'm talking about the guy that wants to fucking shove your neck down your goddamn throat. That's a guy I'm talking about. Rom has that. You know, Tiger had that. Rory does not have that. Rory is so fucking talented.
Starting point is 01:57:45 It's a joke. Now, actually, funny enough, Brooks has that. DJ has a little bit of that. They want to beat your fucking ass at. But the thing. is it takes a certain person to be able to actually carry it and continue to carry it without
Starting point is 01:58:05 thinking that oh my god I don't want the world to think I'm a fucking prick you know what I mean? How was it staying with DJ? You say you stay with DJ. You like him, right? DJ's phenomenal. Fuck, my boy. He's finally getting married. You don't know you know what about. But nonetheless
Starting point is 01:58:27 DJ is my fuck DJ's phenomenal DJ's fucking my boy his his future father-in-law Wayne is fucking incredible he's taught me a lot he's taught me a lot but you know
Starting point is 01:58:40 the DJs the Brooks's Rom, Tiger the ultimate Rory doesn't have that mental attitude in my opinion yeah if Rory had a lot more fuck you and him
Starting point is 01:58:54 he would be he would be fucking incredible. It's interesting. Here you say that Brooks has it because we always go back and forth on like if Brooks even cares about golf. I personally, I hate his public persona where it's like every time he loses, he didn't care,
Starting point is 01:59:11 but when he wins, when he wins all of a sudden. Oh, he tried that week. He cares. I promise you. He tries to have that golf is like a nerd sport and he's like, oh, they're lucky I'm here. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:59:24 And I get, I get what you're, I get what you're talking about, but he does fucking care. When you win four majors, you fucking care. I got to do this for him. Now,
Starting point is 01:59:33 when he loses, he tries to act like it doesn't matter like it's not a big deal. It fucking matters, I promise you. It matters. It matters. Tiger had mattered all the time.
Starting point is 01:59:43 That's why he's the fucking greatest. And I don't give a shit of anybody who talks about anything. He is the greatest players ever touch the club. Whatever has happened to him in the last, you know,
Starting point is 01:59:53 whatever amount of years, is truly unfortunate. But once again, it's done to himself. So he really has no one to blame but himself and what's happened, which sucks because he should have gone down as the greatest player that never fucking touched a club and nobody can touch his records.
Starting point is 02:00:14 That's what sucks. What's your general feeling on what the future looks like for him? Hopeful, for one. I hope to God, you know, as stubborn as he is, as stubborn as he is, I hope to God that his fucking ankle heals. And then he can't come back. But, you know, I'm not going to speculate whether or not he can win again, not win again, play again. There's Jeremy.
Starting point is 02:00:39 There he is. What's happening? I just don't know. Can he win again? This is Jeremy, the nine handicapped. Congratulations, Jeremy. Where is it? Thanks, Rick.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Yeah. So he just joined. Where is he? Just join the crew. Don't go away. Don't fucking. I got a piss. All right. That's perfect timing.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Pat Perez is going to take a piss, and Jeremy has joined the show. Jeremy, how do I pronounce your last name? You want to give it a shot first? Yeah. Points to no. Rigsie's got it. Points to know. Silent French tea.
Starting point is 02:01:15 We're so close. It's like, okay, I got you. It's like a Merlot. Exactly right. Well done. Yeah. I'm surprised you didn't get that with the way you try to be fancy. I would have.
Starting point is 02:01:25 your bullshit. So, congratulations, Jeremy. You got down to 9.0. First time in the single digits? First time since losing my site. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:01:37 And you used to be, what, like a 3 or something like that? Yeah, I got down like a 3 or 4 in high school and I could see when I was fully sighted. Okay. So, now I don't want to say, but it seems like your site is somewhat there. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I don't quote unquote look blind. I have complete peripheral vision.
Starting point is 02:01:56 I've got nothing in the middle. I've lost all central vision. So what does that really mean? Yeah, so like if put both your hands one on top of the other, put them in front of your face and look around a little bit with your hands in front of your face like that. Okay. That's my sight all the time to somewhat be able to see things
Starting point is 02:02:16 I've got to look above to the sides or below. Don't do that with the ladies. That doesn't go over well. But, you know, I lost the ability to read without extreme magnification. I got to zoom in here on my laptop to see you. I'm not able to drive. And I'm not able to distinguish faces. If we walked by each other on the street, I would have no idea who you are.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Everyone's a blur to me. So how did this happen? Walk me through the, you know, what occurred? Because it sounds like you had originally, like you said, fully sighted. Yeah, I had perfect 2020 sighted my whole life. Went off to San Diego State. and was living the dream. And my sophomore year when I was 19,
Starting point is 02:02:57 I had to squint to read a sign. I was like, oh, that's weird. I think I need glasses or contacts. And in a matter of two months, my site went from perfect 2020 to where it is now and where it's been for 12 years, legally blind with no central vision due to a rare... Don't worry about that shit.
Starting point is 02:03:12 We're still going to beat fucking Frank in his team. So Pat has recruited you, I believe, on to his team for the rematch when he plays against... that's this fault. Jeremy, don't fucking worry about these dead beans.
Starting point is 02:03:25 We're gonna fucking win. I couldn't have said it better than myself. They're not gonna fucking see me again. I got this for you. They're not gonna what? They're not gonna cheat me again. We're gonna fucking win. I'm actually,
Starting point is 02:03:36 I'm a member at the same club Pat's dad's a member at. Oh boy. It all comes full circle. That's right. So Pat, he was saying, he was saying that his,
Starting point is 02:03:48 he's got peripheral vision, but he's got no direct vision. So if you were to put both their hands like this, this is what he sees like all the time. I can see alcohol and I can see glasses. That sounds about right. Jeremy, talk us through a little bit about how you, like how, what is, what is the setup of a golf shot for you?
Starting point is 02:04:10 Like, how are you a nine handicap right now? Talk us through like your whole process. For sure. I'm sure there's a ton of questions and people are mind blown as to what blind golf even is. but and to even like help people understand how I see as well like peripheral vision like my site similar to a donut right I've got the whole donut part the top the sides the bottom I'm missing that huge donut hole in the middle um so frank you answer your question it's it's a team sport for me golf
Starting point is 02:04:37 when I was playing in high school by myself it's an individual sport we know golf to be an individual sport but blind golf is a team sport and in competitive blind golf tournaments my dad is my guide but if with Pat as my teammate, I could have him guide me and we'll whip anyone's bro, we're gonna have fucking 15 katties, you don't have to worry about shit. I don't need 15, I just need you, Pat. I just need Pat and we're set. We're gonna have, that's all I need. I promise you, we're gonna be fucking set.
Starting point is 02:05:04 It's overlaid, I promise you. My man, are you gonna bring me a pair of Jordans too? What size of you? 10 and a half. 10 and a half. Why is everybody fucking 10 and a half? I'm a 10. You have to squeeze it 11.5.
Starting point is 02:05:17 You have to wear a double sock. Double soft. Do you like, run into shit or you, you know what I mean? I'm trying to. No, that's a good question. Definitely not me. But I mean, after a couple of drinks, you have a couple of drinks, I probably drive just as well. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. No, with complete peripheral vision, I don't bump into stuff and I don't look legally blind or blind. But Frankie, I just have like, if you're my guide for the day, I would just like talk like just talk to me. Hey, what do we have a par four, 420, okay, let's pull the driver. And hey, you'd rather be right than left here. Okay, then aim me down the middle and I'll try to play a cut.
Starting point is 02:05:55 And if it's, you know, if we keep it on the right side, we're going to be fine. And then we just talk through each shot. And you stand from behind and tell me my feet, go more left, go more right. I pull the trigger and we do that the whole way around the course. There's separate things we do for chipping and for putting to be more precise. But it's a team sport. And I mean, if I'm just playing with my dad at my home course, the two of us, we get around in three and a half hours. So people might think.
Starting point is 02:06:18 That's so fucking cool. That's fucking cool. I mean, that is amazing. No, that seriously fucking cool. Because the fact that you have to have enough game to know when someone tells you what you're doing, you know, like where you are, aimed left, aim right. Right. You know, sit on the left, sit on the right. Water here, that's fucking cool.
Starting point is 02:06:39 That's my partner right there. How do you line up an iron shot? Like, all right, do they, are they physically holding the face of the iron and holding it behind the ball? No. So for me, with the complete peripheral vision to somewhat see the ball down there, I look above it. I can't tell if my club face is on the toe, the heel, or if it's square. So if I'm on the toe, my dad will say it's on the toe, I'll step up a little more and get it square. And then just from behind, you just told me to go a little more right or left. And it's kind of like, it's like a video game. I kind of turn around the ball to the right or to the left. You tell me it's good. I pull the trigger. If I hit it to a foot, I'm the man. If I, you know, miss it. It's a little. left of the green, you screwed up. Yeah. Gonna win. Hey, we're going to win.
Starting point is 02:07:22 It doesn't matter. The way they pull the trigger, like, so nonchal, I look. Like, that's the part that I don't get. Like, actually, like, I have to look at the ball to hit it. And I still, I see the ball. I still can't hit it. So it's like, I don't understand why pulling. Have you just gotten the plane down?
Starting point is 02:07:36 You've gotten, is it all a feel thing? Has, is there, like, a heightened sense now of, like, feel now that you've lost some of your vision? Because I've heard, like, I don't know if that's, like, not true. But, like, as, like, like, one second. goes down, other senses go up, like, are you, like, do you have a feel for the ground more? Say that one more time? So, like, I was wondering. I'm totally messing with you.
Starting point is 02:07:57 That was a joke. Oh, Jesus. We're in trouble. He's going to, him and Pat have, like, a whole fucking vibe going right now. See, Frankie. Frankie is left. Sorry, Frank. We're in trouble.
Starting point is 02:08:10 We're in trouble. Sorry, sorry, Frank. Boy, are we in trouble. I don't know if I'm being an asshole. Like, I was trying to tiptoe around that. No, no. I'm going to win this fucker. I'm not playing this guy.
Starting point is 02:08:22 He's going to fucking dominate me. I'm an open book, man. His sense are going to go up more drinking fucking 23-year-old pappy. I got to eat for you. His sense are going to go fucking way up with a victory. No, Frankie, that's the most common question I get. It's a good question, man. And that's my response.
Starting point is 02:08:39 But it's 100% feel. And it's something like, if I step over the ball, like I don't look at the target at all. because for me it's just how are my feet set up and I'm only focused on the alignment of my feet. As long as the sighted guide is pointing me in the right direction, I don't need to, once I'm stepped over the ball, I don't look back to the target. I'm just focused on my feet, alignment, and pulling the trigger to make sure it's starting online. Is it up to your dad to make sure that the ball is teed up the same height every single time? I tee it up.
Starting point is 02:09:15 Really? feel yeah when i teed up i feel like how far down i want to put it i make sure the ball is slightly above the driver like we want to have it set up and yeah i don't want anyone else putting the teedown for me uh bro we're gonna fuck with these guys don't give me your goddamn secrets don't get into fucking secrets we're gonna win these good we're gonna beat these i'm gonna be like uh you sure you want to teed up that high right before you pull a trigger we're in trouble i want to i want to get out in front of it and say we're in trouble i find what you do to be so impressive man it is congrats to you to be able to just like
Starting point is 02:09:45 overcome this stuff and and you can tell on social media people are rallying behind you and it's like a really cool thing and we definitely need to get you involved whether it's this like we have to get you involved into something like people need to see this i mean i like pat like you're just not allowed to have good golfers as you're fucking you're lost you can't keep like drafting players to beat us like you lost you have to beat us on your own you're a good golfer you're playing at fucking liberty national next week came down to one put Came right down to it. You got this new swing now.
Starting point is 02:10:17 Where is he from? Where's Jeremy from anyway? I didn't catch the beginning. I'm in Carl's Bad. Oh, fuck. You're in my hometown. Yeah, I'm in your backyard. All right.
Starting point is 02:10:26 So listen to me. You are going to come out here and we're going to play these fucking four derelics. And we're going to fucking win. How does that sound? I'm so down. Frankie, thanks for the nice work. Frank's going to feel so shitty because he fucking lost that he's actually to have to shake our hand this
Starting point is 02:10:43 because we fucking won. I'd be remiss. We're going to do this soon. We're going to do this soon. I'm totally game. I'm there. And I'd be remiss if I didn't say, Trent,
Starting point is 02:10:54 congrats on breaking 100, man. I think that's just as inspirational, dude. I watched it. I know I'm a blind guy, but I was zoomed in. I got to tell you,
Starting point is 02:11:02 it's probably not as inspiring as what you do. It's got to be tough to hear, Trent. He thought, like, you read for your skill. I appreciate the kind words.
Starting point is 02:11:09 I really do appreciate it. It was equal to being blind and playing on. Just, we all. We all have our accomplishments and achievements we got to get. You got yours. I got mine and let's keep going. You're at just as much of like a dis-like you're at such a disadvantage as, as Jeremy
Starting point is 02:11:23 on the golf course. And he's literally saying that you guys are just as your equal. You're a common. No, this is Frankie being negative trying to turn it around. That's what he does. Jeremy, I appreciate the kind words. Let's keep going, pal. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:11:38 Frankie still hurt that I gave him a hard time. Turn out. Turn out. I can inspire. I can go out of you. All right, Jeremy, we're going to set this up. You're going to be part of it. Unreal word.
Starting point is 02:11:48 He's coming out. He's coming out this town. Very inspirational. Appreciate you guys. Awesome shit, Jeremy. Seriously. Yep. Thanks for hopping on, man.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Absolutely. Take care guys. That's good. Jeremy. I'll see you soon. Jeremy, I'm going to see you within five weeks. Perfect. Love it.
Starting point is 02:12:07 I'll hear you then. All right, brother. See you. Wow. That's your partner. that's fucking cool by the way yeah that guy's awesome that's the kind of shit
Starting point is 02:12:19 see you're not going to get that kind of shit with any tour player no chance no no trust your body to do that he'll pull the trigger when you can't see it's crazy dude how his vision makes me think that he's like that would me I mean obviously get used to it but I'd just be nauseous
Starting point is 02:12:34 like I yeah I don't it's almost like a blessing that he has a little bit left end a little bit of a curse where it's like just an outer rim of the world and you're like Can you imagine what that looks like? No. I feel like you're constantly trying to see the thing, but you can't.
Starting point is 02:12:49 That's what I mean, yeah, I'd be like. So off the four of you, who's going to be upset the most and we fucking beat you guys? I mean, Jesus. All of us, if we lose to you and a blind guy. I think that you need to like realize. This time you're fucking losing. A new swing, a new outlook on life. Like, you're going to fucking crush us if you played a solo again.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Plus, we played a public golf course. Hey, the bottom line is, We are going to have fucking fun. We are going to have fun. I just want you to think, like, you don't need fucking Jeremy to beat us. Like, you would have beaten us nine times that at 10. We hit rocks. Damn, I got fucked.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Like, we got so fucked. We never should have won that day. We got so lucky. No. That was done. He didn't even know where that ball was going on 18. He hit it into the sun. All of a sudden, it was two feet away.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Lurch, what did you hit? You had a four iron to a foot? No, no. It was a five. Oh, it was an eight item. I thought it was further than that. No, it was five feet.
Starting point is 02:13:44 with six week luck job that's probably what i guess four percent like result for you yeah by the way what the fuck is what what lurks his fucking background looks like he's on the fucking moon he does this shit he does this like he's like he's a buffet of bits with his with his car with his no he's keep it word i don't i don't have the background that you have that so it's not trophies well i we know that i'm actually moving so it's boxes and shit riggs why should come over for a drink i'll come over check out that vegas style pool you got running around. Vegas.
Starting point is 02:14:16 I know. That's Vegas, San Jose, Manico, Abiza. It's more than just one fucking pool, by the way.
Starting point is 02:14:23 That's fucking big league shit. It is big league shit. It's one of the most impressive pools I've ever seen. It's the most impressive pool I've ever been a part of. You ever see that water?
Starting point is 02:14:34 Hey, Ray, get the fuck in the car. Get up here. All right. We got to finish our job here, unfortunately. Which is,
Starting point is 02:14:41 okay, so by the way, pretty much took care of itself. We got Jeremy, me and Jeremy, and we got me and fucking Ben, and then we're going to get the other fucking, we're going to get the other boys out. Yeah. Are you guys all going to be out at Liberty next week?
Starting point is 02:14:56 Yeah. Yeah, whole squad. Where do you stay for that? You stay in New York City or you stay in Jersey? I'm in Jersey City. I'm in a fucking dumpside over here. But at least I got DJ and his chef. Oh.
Starting point is 02:15:09 I think we covered a lot of ground. I think we covered a lot of the main topics going on. We got anything else? What else we got? It's been fucking five months. So what else we got? We got one left. Someone's going to have one left.
Starting point is 02:15:23 Holy fuck. We got the Olympics. We got Bryce. We got, we got fucking Brooks. We got, first of all, there's- Who wins the wind on this weekend? Huh? Who wins this weekend?
Starting point is 02:15:33 Oh, does Ricky Fowler make the 125? He needs to finish 21st. Oh, hi, baby. Yeah, I think he does. He never got you nothing. Oh, fuck, look at my wife's drop it. What is it? Podcast corn dogs.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Hey, Rick's coming up. Rich is going to come up. Now you're committed. That's awesome. Riggs, get the fuck, Newburgh. That thing looks delicious. I got to tell you. I got one for you.
Starting point is 02:16:06 I got two. So we got one inch. What were we just talking about? We're talking about what? Ricky. Ricky will do it. Ricky will finish top 20. Is he going to finish 21st?
Starting point is 02:16:18 Now, it doesn't matter. Don't get me wrong because he has he's going to, he has two separate qualifications against his card because he's top 25 all-time list. But does he finish top 20, does he finish 21st this week? He's never missed a FedEx playoff. I'm going to say.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Same swing coach is, Trent, same swing coaches. John Hillary, baby. I love Ricky, but I say no this time. Really? Yeah, I do love Ricky. I think he's phenomenal. He's always been great to me.
Starting point is 02:16:55 But to put all that pressure on the line, he's got to finish 21st this week. The only time he's finished inside the top 20 for the last 18 months is the PGA championship he got a fucking sponsored by it. He's playing better. I think he's going to do it. I got faith.
Starting point is 02:17:14 I'm a big Ricky guy. I think the... Bro, I'm a rookie guy too. Ricky gets so much shit. He gets chirps so hard. He seems like the nicest guy on the planet. I'm with Ricky. Believe me, I get it.
Starting point is 02:17:25 I fucking love Ricky. The fucking nicest kid. He's always been the great to me. We talk cars. We talk fucking shit. I'm pulling for him. I'm just saying it's like it's odds or not odd. There's nothing to do of whether I like the kid or not.
Starting point is 02:17:38 I think he's fucking phenomenal. I think he's fucking great. If they were all like him, I would root for all of them, but they're not. So I don't move for a lot of them. We have any run-ins with, you have any run-ins with Harris-English? I feel like he's been playing better golf recently.
Starting point is 02:17:53 Let me tell you something right now. Harris-English is my fucking boy. His caddy, Elar, is literally our fucking boy. Harris-English, I could not be any more proud of Harris-English if it was my own son. He was for a shitstorm of, fucking shit golf.
Starting point is 02:18:15 And he got with Justin Parsons. He started working. He worked his fucking ass off. Harris English is on top because he worked his fucking ass off. He's a phenomenal golfer. I literally could not be any happier for him or is Caddy Elar
Starting point is 02:18:31 because I mean, seriously, bro. I mean, it is so cool to watch a guy go down and then go all the way up to the top. He's down on top. Yep.
Starting point is 02:18:45 And I, I, you know, he was in the fucking shitter. Like, he was literally in the fucking shit house of shit house. And then he kept getting starts and starts and stars. He finished top 10, 10, 10, 10, and then he won, then. And then he won again. I mean, Harris English and Elon, I mean, two of my favorite people on the planet. Dude, something you said, something you said a few minutes ago that I just was confirming and looked up.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Ricky Fowler being 24th on the all-time PGA tour money list is shocking to me. I just would have never, he's ahead of Brooks Kepka. Like he's. Yeah, he is. Ricky Fathers has an amazing career. He's an amazing fucking career. He's got $39.9 million in career earnings on the PGA. This is the problem.
Starting point is 02:19:32 This is the problem with a lot of public information is that, oh, that guy fucking sucks. He had a shitty ear. Okay. well, let's see what he's done before that. And then you get what you just saw, right? Right. He's made $39 fucking million. You know me jobs pay out $39 million fucking dollars in 11 years?
Starting point is 02:19:54 Very few. He's ahead of Heddecki. He's ahead of Henrik Stenson. He's ahead of Chief Gussin. He's ahead of so many guys. He's fucking shitty. He said, no, no, he's not. No, he's not.
Starting point is 02:20:08 He's fucking phenomenal. I don't give a fucking. he's only won five times or not. He's had phenomenal years, which now add up to $39 fucking million. Okay? So Ricky Fowler,
Starting point is 02:20:21 I'm pulling for it to have a great fucking week because he's an unbelievably nice kid. He's genuinely pulling for these fucking guys he roots for all the time. Yeah. He couldn't be any nicer.
Starting point is 02:20:31 He's a phenomenal. I call him kid. He's not young, but he's younger than I am, so I call him kid. But he's literally a fucking phenomenal guy. And that's rare to find in our business where you can actually find a guy that's actually genuinely happy for you. But that guy, phenomenal player.
Starting point is 02:20:49 I hope the guy, it doesn't even matter if he gets his fucking, it doesn't matter if he gets to the playoffs. He has, he's going to have two separate exemptions that get him to play. Okay. So let me, let me explain it to you. Let's say this is good. Let's say he finished 126, right? If you go on the bylaws and bylaws, right, you would only get like 15 events. Okay.
Starting point is 02:21:09 what event is not going to allow Ricky Fallon next year of the 48? None of them. Zero. Okay. So the worst case is going to get 40 events. That's worst case. And why wouldn't you? Ricky Fowler is a phenomenal human being.
Starting point is 02:21:26 He's great. Great wife. He's got a baby coming. You know, I mean, he's a great kid. He's hard to root against. So. Do we know where Pat Perez is on the all time? Do you know what number Pat Perez is on all-time career money list?
Starting point is 02:21:42 I do know that I passed Jason Duffman, my boy, by $10,000. There you did. Just start pulling dollar bills out of that thing. I'm $10,000 away from Poulter. I'm going to pass his fucking ass so soon. Yep, you are. You're 53rd. You're right behind your Poulter.
Starting point is 02:22:00 You're right ahead of Duffner and your two spots ahead of Louis Oostock. Wow. Wow. You take a lot of pride, that. I would too. I love fucking Louis. Louis Eustacein will always fucking have a part right here.
Starting point is 02:22:16 I was first alternate at Bay Hill this year, and Louis Eustaceen was hitting balls behind me. And he was hitting, hit and hidden. He goes, what time do you go? I go, Louis, I'm not in. My first alternate, right? He goes, oh, fuck, are you shitting me?
Starting point is 02:22:30 He goes, I don't feel like great. He goes, you go. I said, what are you talking about? He goes, I can't go. You go. So he fucking pulled out because you knew I was for his ultimate. And he let me play Bay Hill. No way.
Starting point is 02:22:45 Wow. But seriously. But even before that, like Louis Eustazen, Cheryl Swartzel, you know, Brendan Grace, Ritif, Ernie, all the South African crew, other than the fucking new Slovakian guy. They're all fucking awesome. They're literally, they're all fucking incredible. And it's that you can't like make him that. They just are that way. And Louis saw me, and he knew I was warming up.
Starting point is 02:23:14 He knew I wanted to get in the tournament. He felt kind of shit. He's like, you go. I said, what are you talking about? He goes, no, no, no, no, I can't do it. He goes, you go. So it was hard for me when, like, he's leading, and Ron was there in more and more of a Cowell.
Starting point is 02:23:31 I was definitely pulled for him more and more of Cowell. You know, but, like, when Ron was leading, Tori, I wanted Louis to fucking play well because Lewis was with my guy for so long now. I mean, we've been friends for like over 15 years. It's hard for me not to pull for a guy like that because here he is like, he could have been to fucking cocky and be like,
Starting point is 02:23:51 now fuck that, I'm gone. I'm going to play and pull out after three holes. He's like, oh, oh, your first alternate? Oh, you go, you go. I'm like, Louie, are you sure? No, no, fuck, you go. You go. I don't feel that great, you go.
Starting point is 02:24:07 And I made the cut. and I made money and I fucking, you know, added in my fucking cut total and retirement and all this other shit because he didn't want to go. I mean, that's fucking cool. But that's the South African way. Him, Charles,
Starting point is 02:24:21 Gracie, you know, earning, rathith go down the line. I mean, that's the way they are. Or is Habbatini. No. And then you passed him on the money list. One last one for me. We haven't talked to you since this, but Phil Mickelson, you know, 50 years old winning a major what do you think about that is that give you any hope like man we
Starting point is 02:24:41 can keep doing this for years upon years upon years Phil I have a goddamn I got a story you guys would fucking love to have but I can't tell you I would love to tell you this fucking story it's so unbelievable it would make all the tabloys in the planet wow all right you'll tell me later I'll tell rigs later Riggs, you're coming, right? We're definitely playing all Friday. It's the middle of a week
Starting point is 02:25:12 work day. I've been drinking since fucking noon. Hey, you're not coming over? You're on a week off. Riggs, his wife got corn dogs.
Starting point is 02:25:20 You're not coming over? There's no way that corn dog is going to survive until I get there. There's no chance. She's a multiple of them. He's got four. Those do look at this.
Starting point is 02:25:29 Where are they from? Where are they from? Sonic. Sonic. What the fuck else is you get a corn dog from? I don't know. I'm new. to town.
Starting point is 02:25:37 Well, you're 12 minutes away. But nonetheless, I'm going to tell you if you show up. I've got the greatest fucking Phil story of all time. If you show up. You got corn dogs and Phil stories.
Starting point is 02:25:48 It's right. Hard to turn it out. I would love to tell you guys this fucking story because it's so fucking good at making it. It would make it. Nonetheless. Come, coming over.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Jesus. What else are you? It is fucking beyond amazing. And I will use that term, beyond amazing with Phil did. to beat all the young studs at the PGA at Kiowa. It doesn't give me any more hope or not
Starting point is 02:26:14 because I haven't won a major yet, so it's like I'm going to go, hey, I want to major 40, I'm going to 1 in 150. So it doesn't give me any more hope. You know, I mean, Phil is Phil, right? He's the second guy in my generation. He's a second best guy in my generation ever.
Starting point is 02:26:31 You got Tiger and you got Phil. I don't know to fuck about anybody else that you want to talk about in my generation because they don't matter because you got a guy that won fucking 82 times
Starting point is 02:26:43 you got to want that one that wants 46 times after that it really doesn't matter you know what I mean so these new kids I want to fucking talk about the bullshit and all these guys oh what's a new guy
Starting point is 02:26:54 you still got to fucking win 46 and or 82 you still got to win you still got to win you still got to win 15 or six to get in the conversation of, yeah, we're great. You know, I mean, I understand the morocales and, you know, the Brooks and the D-J,
Starting point is 02:27:13 I mean, I get all these guys, but I grew up with the best. I grew up with Tiger. I grew up with fucking Phil. I grew up with the best. You know, some people grew up with fucking Sam Sneed and Tiger and, you know, and fucking Jack and all this. And I just don't see two of those three in the same conversation, one, but that's fine. you know,
Starting point is 02:27:35 Tiger is the greatest thing it's ever walk the fucking earth and that's the bottom one. So when anybody wants to try to compare oh, this is number one guy oh no, this is number one guy.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Oh no, that, da, da, da, da, that. It don't matter. You guys are so far behind the curve. I said it like eight years ago. I said, I'll give you the entire new crop
Starting point is 02:27:55 and they will not match Tiger's record combined. And it was like, I named my 10 names. And it's still. will not happen. Ten names will not match the fucking great tiger boys. This motherfucker has missed like five years of the last 15.
Starting point is 02:28:13 Think about that. That's what's so fucking scary about the deal. Because this motherfucker has missed so many years and is still on top of what everybody's chasing. He did win. 82 times. 8.2. 15 majors. 82 wins.
Starting point is 02:28:32 Like, if somebody has, 15, that's outrageous. He's got 82. That's the thing is DJ's the next guy. He's won 24 times. Right? DJ's won 24 times. And the PGA tour, because they try to suck off everybody they can, like William Max and all the fucking new guys and all this fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Like Monday qualifier fucking Yahoo's that, oh, my God, I'm going to buy diapers or this fucking bullshit. Nobody fucking cares. Nobody cares. nobody cares I have to there's one guy there's one there's one
Starting point is 02:29:10 there's one oh yeah go pee there's one guy there's one guy that fucking changed our sport and that's the
Starting point is 02:29:16 bottom line that's the bottom fucking line but they keep trying to reach for somebody else to fucking this is our guy
Starting point is 02:29:25 there's nobody else there's nobody else all the young guys of today they can't fucking hold fucking corn dog.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Next to the guy down there in fucking Jimber. It doesn't matter what the fuck they do. Combined, they're not going to have what this fucking guy has. Why they keep trying to do it? I mean, I get it for social media-wise, all this shit. But there's one
Starting point is 02:29:51 guy that's changed the fucking sport, and it's going to take another hundred years to do it again. If that guy comes around. The only thing that pisses me off is this motherfucker couldn't fucking stay out of trouble. and couldn't not get hurt to not win another hundred times. Imagine if he had like 150 wins and like 30 majors.
Starting point is 02:30:12 Nobody would have argued the fact he wasn't going to do that. I know. I thought for sure he'd have 150 wins, 35 fucking majors. Who would have argued against that? So when everybody talks about, oh, the next great sensation. Oh, okay. Please tell me who the fuck it is. Trent Ryan.
Starting point is 02:30:36 There's nobody's going to match. There's nobody's going to match the fucking cat. It's the bottom line. You're hurting her first. I love that. I absolutely love that. That's a perfect way. Get the fuck in the car.
Starting point is 02:30:48 Good the fuck I get. All right. We got to do our ad reads and then I'm going to call you and I want to hear this Phil story. One of these is yours if you show up. All right. If you play a car, you might get some of this, although it's more fast. Oh, this was flashed.
Starting point is 02:31:06 Did you pop that bottle in the beginning of this? Yes. And then by the way, you can only get this. You can only get this. No way is right. If you play the show, you get this. That's it. So I can't give you one of those, but.
Starting point is 02:31:19 I got to earn that. I'll let you drink from it. Can't buy that at like a mountain-based tent. Hey, and by the way, you motherfuckers are going down next time. Me and Jeremy. We're going to kill you. We're going to kill you again. We're going to meet you here.
Starting point is 02:31:34 me taking your fucking ass down we almost ended your career once we'll do it again god damn that's right it's true actually sucks boys i enjoyed thanks again for a minute thanks as always you crazy person we love you me thanks be too we love you i'll see you in a little bit you're the best dude riggs i'll send a car for you riggs i don't want you have to pay for anything what a wed i can get a car i can get a car don't worry what a wednesday but yeah i will not be driving up there that's not Marks, I'll send you a fucking car. I'll get a car. I'll get a car.
Starting point is 02:32:08 Maybe you can be a car for the way home. Griggs, I know where to fuck you live, by the way. I know you do. I'm right down the hill. I can probably see your Tony Stark house from here. Down the hill, this way. Down the road. Hey, I'm going to see the rest of you fucking...
Starting point is 02:32:23 You guys come out next week? Yeah, I'll see you Tuesday. Tuesday. I'm going to play the DJ, so... Ooh. All right. All right. And C.C. is going to be out there with me. me on Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:32:34 You fly in on Monday? Is anybody a CC fan? I'm a CC fan. I'm a Yankees fan. Frankie Big Ten. All right. Cc's going to walk for me on Tuesday, so. Wow.
Starting point is 02:32:45 He's not going to sign anything, so don't fucking get too excited. That's all right. I got corn dogs. All right, Pat. We'll see you later. Good luck to have tonight, right? Thanks, Pat. All right, boys.
Starting point is 02:32:58 See you soon. See you. Hey, yeah. Oh, man. It's so good. Brigg, see you soon. Yes, sir. out
Starting point is 02:33:05 yeah that's fucking turn this bitch off it's never easy no god damn babe I ain't
Starting point is 02:33:16 I turn this shit off is there a red exit button babe I'm leaving yeah it's just it's a crazy amount of
Starting point is 02:33:29 it's a crazy what was that bourbon was he drinking whiskey what was that I'd say he was 60 percent of the way through that bottle of bourbon by himself. What a character he is. How is that
Starting point is 02:33:40 thing really keeping that blur on you there, Lurch? Even as you walk through the back of the room. That's an amazing technology. That's actually pretty impressive. I love the thing. I stick with a blur now. Well, the edges of your hair make you look like a cartoon character. Yeah, I know. It doesn't capture
Starting point is 02:33:57 that. Like, it makes me like, yeah. But the fact that it caught you walking around the room was stunning. Pat Perez is crazy man He just lets that shit fly It's awesome The guy's absolute character I mean if he did
Starting point is 02:34:12 If that bottle did start fresh Then I'm pretty sure it did Not only his character He's a lunatic I think like right when he started He had a full glass And I think that was the first glass
Starting point is 02:34:22 And his wife just shows up with corn dogs That shows sober him up What a gift So that's an off week for your boy Hell of a light. Traveled all over the place, and now he's getting a little off week before he goes to Liberty National,
Starting point is 02:34:37 and he's just pounding, I think, bullet bourbon and corn dogs. Riggs, are you going? I mean, that's the storyline. And I just, dude, I got up at 5 a.m. in Boston. I flew across the country. I was so excited to just take it easy for a night or two, doing laundry.
Starting point is 02:34:55 I'm opening packages. I think I don't know. I might have to go up there. That's insane. I mean, you have to go up there, but it's insane that you're now part of that. It's a 15-minute Uber. It's like nothing. Yeah, it's not that bad.
Starting point is 02:35:10 You're there all night, though. Yeah, no, you can't lay there. It's going to be. You might be sleeping on the floor. Dude, that sun's going to set overlooking, like, the mountains with that pool. Like, we've been there. I don't know how you leave that. That's impossible.
Starting point is 02:35:24 All right, well, so I will see you guys in New York then. That's the next time. We'll be in New York. So everybody understands. We're going to be all over Liberty National all week at the Northern Trots. So we're going to be recording some shows from like on site. Do we know the days of that yet or no? No, I think it's kind of up to up so we can kind of do them whenever I think we want to.
Starting point is 02:35:50 I think so yeah, I think that's kind of the plan. But we'll release to people the actual locations and times and dates of when we're going to record live. people want to kind of gather around and hang out while we do it great we're going to be you know releasing stuff from on site and we're just i mean it's in the in the backyard of new york city so we're going to be all over living international this be fun awesome uh-huh uh other than that anybody got any else um i got some news i mean this is deep this is a this is like a what did they call it a Friday news dump. But I think I'm going under the knife, boys.
Starting point is 02:36:31 I think that's the official word from the bird is going under the knife. I mean, I don't know for sure if it's 100% happening. I still have a couple tests tomorrow. They're going to stick a bunch of needles in me and test if things are done or not. But September 29th may be the day, and apparently it's a very quick recovery. So we'll see. I just got a DM from a guy who got both his elbows done. and he said he was back to working and typing within two weeks,
Starting point is 02:37:00 and he said he could throw a baseball after a month or a month and a half. So with my golf swing, I'm sure I'll be back after six or seven weeks. So we'll see. It's going to get me back to just being able to do stuff. So I just got to do it. I have to do it. It's been a long time coming, I think. Elbow is done.
Starting point is 02:37:16 The owner nerve is just completely entrapped. It's in there, and I think I'm just going to do it. I think you got to do it. I think that's the answer. I think get it done. Get yourself right. The fact that it's only a month recovery, I thought he'd be out for like six months.
Starting point is 02:37:30 Well, the thing is, is like they're just going in there and there's releasing a nerve. He was trying to explain it to me, like all my muscles around it are pretty healthy, he was saying. Actually, my shoulders fuck too, but like they're not going to worry about that.
Starting point is 02:37:41 That's just physical therapy. My arms are falling off. I have two limbs hanging off my body that are just not working. So it's going to be a long recovery with everything. But yeah, I heard like after he takes a sling off, it, like, the only thing is like not making, Like, your elbow gets really tight after elbow surgeries.
Starting point is 02:37:57 So, like, you got to really go to physical therapy and work on it. And if you're good about it, you should be able to be back. It's not like I'm fucking swinging Bryce and Deschambeau speeds. So I should be okay. Also, I got a lot of DMs about people in the surgical field that definitely have drinking problems. I don't know about you guys. I got a lot of them.
Starting point is 02:38:14 The drinking in the medical field is extremely prevalent. It's got a lot of those. Yep. And we actually got several that made it, you know, were, warning us of being insensitive to the high levels of kind of alcohol abuse associated with the medical field. So we clearly were not trying to encroach upon any insensitivities in that realm. But it's, yeah, it happens is the answer.
Starting point is 02:38:41 Which is what we thought. We figured that was the case. Yeah. It's just the numbers game. Yeah. And then it's, I got a message from a guy who, like, is, he was like very open about it. He's like, yeah, I mean, like, alcoholics, anonymous, like, like people that I work with, in surgery, we do brain surgery, we're all in it. It's like, it's just something that, because it's
Starting point is 02:39:00 like ego plus like stress plus just like having a lot of money and like golfing all the time and drinking and living that lavish lifestyle. Um, of having a ton of money as like a fucking neurosurgeon and shit. So crazy. Absolutely crazy if that stuff goes on. But as it probably like he said, the numbers and stuff happens just in all walks of life. So scary. Correct. It's just a numbers game. Uh, it is very scary. Tonight, uh, uh, 8 p.m. Eastern, we have the first episode of our travel series to Michigan, Forest Dunes, the Loop, which is literally a reversible golf course. I think Red's the first way that we play it, is the first day, I believe.
Starting point is 02:39:37 So on YouTube, 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, tonight, Thursday night, August 12th, 2021. We'll have the premiere. Log on, watch it. We'll be in the comment section. And that's all I think I got. Hit it hard. It's going to be fantastic. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Thank you.

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