Fore Play - Pat Perez Week!

Episode Date: December 19, 2017

Perhaps the Tour's biggest beauty, Pat Perez joins the show to tell the guys about winning with a terrible diet and without working out. PP details the fallout following his comments about Tiger Woods... earlier in the year, his disdain for Golf Channel, his plans for 2018, the best shot he's ever hit, and how he eats thousands of calories minutes after burning hundreds. In From The Gallery, the boys debate the best Tiger Woods video game, if they'd go all the way to Augusta to play one hole, which hole that'd be, and more. The boys also breakdown Justin Rose's hot streak and Tiger losing 9 straight games of H.O.R.S.E. to caddie Joe LaCava then refusing to talk to him for the rest of the day!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Trent, Frankie Borelli, I am Riggs. It is almost Christmas. I believe we are not going to do an episode next week for Christmas week. Okay. We might. We may.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We haven't decided yet. We can kind of do whatever the hell we want, which is the beauty of this year program. We got a big show, as always, to finish up the year. We got Pat Perez, a little bit. bit of a character, a little bit of a bro. We're going to get into it with him on a bunch of the different comments. He's made over the years. He loves, he's kind of a hate-love relationship with social media.
Starting point is 00:00:40 So we're going to have some fun with that. We're going to do a couple headlines. We've got a little bit of Tiger News. We got Justin Rose absolutely wiping the floor with people across the planet, which people might not know. And, of course, we've got a bunch of from the galleries with Frankie Bro and the pizza maker. First, we've got to talk about our friends at Blue Apron. Cooking is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I have discussed on this here show before that I'm basically cooking illiterate. I don't really know how to cook. Blue Apron is basically the only thing that I actually, it's the only way that I'm capable of cooking a full meal. Otherwise, I'm just not even freaking close. So my latest favorite ingredient, my roommates and I, also, we installed a TV mount that rotates. Oh. So the TV now, we used to have basically, like, cooking in our kitchen kind of stunk because you were just, you were locked in the kitchen. There's not much going on.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We're kind of, you know, we're three single dudes, whatever. So we like to watch sports, do cool stuff like that. TV now rotates towards the kitchen. Wow. So while you're whipping up a nice meal, you can watch a little TV. So recently we were in there. We whipped up the roasted chicken with maple butter. Mmm.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Sweet mashed potatoes, collard greens. It was absolutely fantastic. On a big chicken kick in general right now. So when you get to whip up your own, it's maybe the best thing in the world. And it feels, make someone like me who's just an absolute idiot in the kitchen feel very accomplished. I'm a big fan of the presentation, too. Oh, yeah. Some garnishes.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Oh, my God. Frankie knows he's a restaurant guy. I'm a restaurateur. That's right. Man, did I used to go crazy on, like, the chocolate toppings. Like, anything. I'd make an ice cream Sunday look like it, like, Da Vinci just made it. Oh, how good is that?
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Starting point is 00:03:30 Check out this week's menu. Get your $30 off with free shipping at blue apron.com slash forward play, Blue Apron, a better way to cook. Okay, we're going to jump into a couple very quick headlines here. We've got to mention Justin Rose on an absolute tear. It is December, what, 18th? So nobody's really thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:03:49 He won by eight shots over in Indonesia this week, and he has won. Look at this. He's won three events, 10 top tens, and six times. top fives in his last 10 starts. It's pretty fucking good. It's crazy because, you know, we talk about DJ, we talk about Justin Thomas, talk about Jordan Speat, talk about Tiger coming back and all that. It is amazing that someone like Justin Rose who lost the Masters in a playoff this past year,
Starting point is 00:04:12 won the gold medal last year in the Olympics and won the U.S. Open in 2013. You don't even really think about it. The gold medal really goes under the radar. Big time under the radar. Which, I mean, I kind of, you know. Like we, I mean, we talked about this podcast how we didn't, we weren't totally into the Olympic golf thing, so maybe that's why it does, because nobody else is into the Olympic golf thing.
Starting point is 00:04:29 But, I mean, he still won against a pretty heavy field at the Olympics. He did. And, you know, it meant a lot to him at the time. I told, I wrote a little bit of a blog today about Rose and his hot streak that he's on. I included a great anecdote in there that I heard when I was at Marion. Okay. And the customary move, you know, when a guy wins a U.S. Open at the host course offers them kind of an honorary membership. You know, it's the basic cost of nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You're just a member. You won the fucking U.S. Open here. You do whatever you want, blah, blah, blah, blah. the anecdote that they told me was basically Justin Rose went to them immediately after and said, I want to be a member. Let me know how much it costs and who to write the checkout to. And basically decided, like, no, no, I want to become a member of the old school way. I want to do whatever the hell I got.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He's like, beloved at the club. So whenever he comes by with his kids, he's super well-liked. He's chatty. He's very nice with all the members, blah, blah, blah. So I've loved Justin Rose ever since them. But anyway, he's on a sneaky hot streak to finish the year. Another name you got to throw in the mix going to the next season. And I feel like we're wildly excited about 2018, as we probably should be.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, yeah. And that's not even, I'm only, all those names we just mentioned. I haven't even included, like, Hedekhi, who's my favorite player, by the way. Haven't included Sergio Garcia, who is the reigning master's champ. So there's a lot of names next year going in. Rose is on a hot streak and might be the best player on the planet right now. We had a cool story about Tiger. Last week, Joe La Cava, his caddy, was on, I don't know, he's on, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:50 he's on, you know, PGA TORXM radio or something like that, telling a story that he beat Tiger nine straight times. in horse and Tiger wouldn't talk to him the rest of the day, didn't even invite him over for dinner. So when you blog this, you blog this is a story where it's like, this is good for Tiger. This is a good look for Tiger, yeah, because he's being competitive Tiger. I know what you're going to say. I'm much more worried about him losing nine straight times in a row. Look, if you're not good of basketball, you're not good of basketball. You should stop playing.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Stop playing after game three or four. It's great news for the Fusion, though. You don't play nine games. Correct. Does Tiger a guy that just stops playing, Trent? I don't know. Maybe. I wish he would stop playing after three games because he's so mad.
Starting point is 00:06:25 he can't lose three in a row. To lose nine in a row, at like seven and eight, he's got to be like, you got to be like, all right, buddy, let's stop playing. I purposely didn't put that part in the blog that, like, who the fuck? How do you lose? I mean, right, I can play against like Michael Jordan. I might not lose nine straight game. Of course, that's where your mind goes. Of course, that's where your mind goes. Like, Michael Jordan doesn't lose nine a row in anything. I don't care if it's a sport he's never played and the other person is way better. He figures out a way to get in the other person's mind or he, you know, plays better as he goes on. Tiger losing nine in a row at anything,
Starting point is 00:06:55 is a problem in my eyes. You know who loves this story is those dicks that think like, oh, golf's a hobby, not a sport. Yeah, that's tough. They love this story. That, like, people argue Tiger is like maybe the greatest athlete of all time. And they hate it. He loses nine straight games of horse to his caddy.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Right. What is that? Like, oh, he plays golf, sure, but can he play any other sport? It's like, yeah, he's fucking athletics. Like, no, he can't even hit like a jump shot. It's not the direction I thought this conversation was going to go. I wanted to throw that in there because. You know what, though, it's scary.
Starting point is 00:07:20 It's a scary thought. I've been avoiding that take. Look, we've got to focus on the positive here. We got to focus on the fusion. You're not out there cranking hoops all day with your boy. Think about the back movement you need for a shot. Think about the back trend. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm thinking about it. I'm also thinking about him losing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine games in a row. It's a lot of shots, too, to be, like, way worse than the other guy. Yeah. What if the other guy's just, like, he just is unbelievable at golf? You mean that? I mean, I'm sorry, a horse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Who, how do you be? Like, how does Joel, Kama not have a bad game in there where Tiger, That's the concern is that Tiger is so bad at it But it doesn't matter if he's bad at basketball Who cares? He's still healthy but losing that many in a row Was a red flag for me And he's fiery, man
Starting point is 00:08:02 He's not even talking to him for the rest It's not like your buddy where you shake hands afterwards He's like he didn't even texting a quote over for dinner After nine! How do you not love that? After nine, if he didn't talk to him He shouldn't have talked to him after two games The fact that it's nine
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, he's fiery But he's really if anybody gets beat nine times anything They're going to be mad about it Of course It's not just Tiger Sorry Did you see what it? Jack said about Tiger? I did.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Let me read this. The quote says, I'm not interested at all in seeing Tiger play. He says, do I wish Tiger will? Yeah, but I'm not interested in watching him. I've watched him play for over 20 something years. Why would I want to go watch more? I don't want to watch anybody golf. Jack Nicholas is now, he's like getting a little bit that. What is that? What is that even me?
Starting point is 00:08:41 He's getting old and like crusty, I think. That was a weird. That sounds like a guy who's nervous. That's guy like he like did a little research on the fusion and he Jack's like, oh shit. I don't want to watch this. This is going to be devastating. Yeah, that, I didn't take it.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I think he, like, he doesn't want to watch the devastation that, like, Tiger's going to leave on the game of golf. Like, he's going to dominate. He doesn't want to be there for, like, how horrible the competition is going to be in 2018. The Tiger's just going to run through the whole entire. It's also, it's such a weird comment. Like, I've watched him for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Why would I want to keep, why? Dude, like, you know, you won the Masters at age 46. People have been watching you for 25 years. What you don't, you think they shouldn't have wanted to watch you because they've seen it before? Like, no. That's the whole point. I really like the angle that Jack is nervous about Tiger. It's not a pretty.
Starting point is 00:09:23 nervous to me. I don't watch anybody play golf. You know, that sounds like a guy who puts his glove on. So I was just going to say, this is a perfect transition into From the Gallery this week. We had a massive discussion last week about putting with your glove on. Frankie and I said it's a big pet peeve of ours. Basically a dusty movie.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You look like a huge duster. You're putting with your glove on. Right away, the website goes up. We get hit with one of the biggest haymakers in the history of this podcast. People start tagging us. Picture Jack Nicholas, putting with a glove on. Maybe the greatest putter of all time. the greatest career of all time.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm watching this week they got the, you know, whatever, PNGC, whatever, fuck yourself, father, son, challenge. PNC, PNC, Steve Sands. Our guy Steve Sands out there announcing. It's having great. Anyway, that's on Lee Trevino and Jack Nichols are out there, both putt with their glove on the whole time.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Everybody's tagging me. That's a tough one for us. This should be a big win for me, but I have it a week later. I didn't have it when we were talking about it at the time. If I had that, it would have it. been a real haymaker if I'd been like, well, Jack Nichols did it. So you guys are fucking idiots. This is what happened with me with my Wayne Gretzky take. I don't know if people are
Starting point is 00:10:30 up to speed on that one, but I had like proof of what I was saying the next day. Right. It's like you get shit on. Everyone calls you an idiot that you don't know anything. It's like, you go home. You like do a little research and it's like, God damn if I only had this one of my. Like if you would have told me, it's like, oh, so I'm an idiot for putting with a glove on. Like, what about Jack Nicholas? I would have been like, I got to go. I would have kicked you guys out of the podcast. Yeah, I would have to leave. Yeah, we would have deleted the segment. So we have it a week later, but it just doesn't have the same effect.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It doesn't, but it's an important point. I mean, when I saw that picture, I was horrified. I was like, God, like, how do you? So then I started thinking, like, well, you make an eye. I said to Frankie earlier, I was like, Wayne Gretzky, he went with, like, the jersey tuck. He's, like, famous for the Jersey tuck. Now you can't be some schmuck out there in, like, junior hockey rolling around with the Gretzky tuck. Or you're like a loser.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Right. I don't know if that equates. Like, he can't just be. some schmuck on the green like three jack in every hole and you've got your glove on well it's also it's also because the jersey tuck it sounds like it would be an homage to what wayne did and when i leave my glove on and on when i'm putting i'm just an idiot it's not like i'm like oh jack nicholas did this so i did it it's that i just didn't take it off and i'm now i'm up here putting and oh shit i still don't like the move i don't either it didn't change anything like
Starting point is 00:11:46 like you put with a glove on i think you're wearing jeans also when you're golfing yes that's just What comes with it. Don't make that face because no one's tagging you in a picture of Jack Nichols with jeans on. True. Okay. I say, if I see a guy on the practice screen, putting with his glove on, I'm like, I'm going to dust that guy. Yes. I'm going to absolutely toast that guy.
Starting point is 00:12:04 There's no way that guy makes a six-footer with that's on the line. The finger, like, like, when you're putting it, like, bunches up. Like, the whole thing's just a mess. Yeah, your gloves, like sweat. It's like, it's like, I don't know. There's no finesse to it. There's no, like, there's no finesse to it. It feels, it feels wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah. It's just an outdated move, too. I feel like, you know, that's like, that's the old generation. Nobody in the new generation's out there with the exception of Lexi Thompson who matches her gloves or gloves or, like, her shoes. Right, which I cannot get over how bad I think that move is. I just, I can't stand the look. I think you put it on a glove, you're ready to, like, smash something.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Like, I put on gloves, like, you put on baseball gloves and, like, you feel good. Like, I'm going to smash this baseball. Like, you're putting, like, you want, like, the delicacy of your fingertips. Do you keep your... I don't know, Jack Nichols did it so. Yeah, he's like a rugged man. Do you keep your glove on? when you chip?
Starting point is 00:12:54 It's weird because that is a finesse move too. I may have just... I'm like, it depends on where I am. I don't know if that makes any sense. No, I do. My chipping varies. Sometimes I do sometimes they don't. I don't have much logic.
Starting point is 00:13:05 If it's just strictly using a sand wedge, like if I'm 80 yards out, I'm obviously using a glove. If I'm like just off the fringe, I'll sometimes take it off because I, if I'm using like a putter, if I'm using a putting stroke, like a very small stroke. Yeah, like that's just kind of like straight back straight through. I'm taking up my gloves. But if I have any sort of back swing, I put the glove on. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm a huge grip guy. Need grip. So, speaking of grip and gloves, I've got a move that I've done for several years now because I can't stand when my hands get sweaty on the club. You know, some people can handle it more than others. Like, you know, Freddie Couples famously has played forever without a glove on. I just, like, it just affects my mental state, probably more even than my physical grip of the club. And so I have, I always rock.
Starting point is 00:13:50 a three-glove rotation system. Wow. So that every glove is always fresh, basically. Because if you start, if it's like a hot day, by the time you get on the second or third hole, your glove's going to be a little wet. And that, like, wetness between my fingers in the club, like, drives me insane.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Now, a byproduct of this that I've realized is that I have to get new gloves, like, never. Right. Because I like... It's, you're cutting in the thirds. Like... Right. And you're giving them time between shots to, like, air out.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So I gripped, I basically attached them to my bag Like via the loop, the handle, whatever you were, the strap Couldn't think of the word, it's called strap And I, and then I go like, you know, whichever one's at the bottom is the one I grab And when I'm done, I put it up with this. Every shot. Wait, wait a minute. Wait, how often do you mean every shot?
Starting point is 00:14:40 Like I rotate gloves. From the driver to the... Oh, you hit a drive. Yep. Take a glove off. Yep. You wrap it around the... What was the word?
Starting point is 00:14:49 My strap. My strap on my bag. I have three gloves on there at all times. You get up to your second shot and you have a new glove on. Correct. Holy smokes. I thought you were talking. You would go a few holes and then you would, you know, run it to take the next one in.
Starting point is 00:15:01 That's much different. That's a little crazy. A little. That's why I brought it up. It feels weird. Now I know why you're saying it probably affects you more mentally than it does your physical because it is. It is. You're using three, on a par five, you're using possibly four different gloves or three gloves, four different times.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah. Holy shit. Isn't that crazy? That's nuts. And so when you have a caddy, are you just, like, if he, like, if he poor caddies. So, I've had issues where, you know, because when they go up. So a lot of times what I'll do is I'll keep one in my back pocket and one on. And then if I have to, I could keep two of my back pocket, which feels like a bender move, but, like, I can't be stuck without a glove.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I've golfed with you multiple times. Maybe five or six times, never notice it. And when I ride in a cart, I always do the strap it up to the sidebar. Yeah. So that they air out in between shots. Wow. I can't, I just like when my gloves are like, they got to be, like, fresh and dry. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Isn't that crazy? Yeah, because, yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of glove movement. That's a lot. So basically any picture of my bag in you, by seeing, if you look, there's always at least, you know, two or three or three or three years on them. Depending if I've got, like, one of my pocket or something. When did you start doing this? I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It just, like, it happened probably three or four years ago or something. When I start playing a lot, I just like, I realized. A long will each glove last you? It lasts three times a long. A long time. Right? No, even more, I think. Because when you use a glove every shot, right,
Starting point is 00:16:25 that moisture really like starts to bear down or starts to wear down the hot spots, like the thumbprint and like the middle of your palm and all that. But when you give it that time to air out, it like even increases the durability of it. So my gloves, I mean, I'd be using the same three gloves like all fucking year. So beginning of the year, you find your glove that you want and you buy three of them? Well, the thing is I always have, like there's, like, there's, like, A lot of times there's one that's fresher than the other two. I didn't know if they all come in.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'll throw one fresh one into the system. Got it. Yeah. Wow. Man. That's something. This is something. Now, I had a company this year sent me like 15 gloves.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Okay. So I've got a ton of gloves now. I'm fucking glove guy for her. You might die with those gloves. These gloves might never, because they don't, you know, the ones on my bag, but on my bags, it's like pre-Scott one. I played a ton of golf. It's just such a commitment to change every.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But I don't even think about it. I literally don't even think about it. It's part of my routine. Yeah, I guess so. I put one on, I grab the new one, put it in my pocket. As I'm walking up or as I'm carting up, I put it on, so I'm not wasting anybody's time. And I just strapped in, I'm ready to go. What's stopping you from just having, like, 15 gloves on there?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Just don't need that many, Trent. But I mean... Yeah, like, when did you say that three was... Right. Like, was there a trial here? Here's where you got to realize that being from St. Louis, the summers in St. Louis, and Trent knows you're a Midwestern guy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:40 The summers in the Midwest are light. You're walking outside into an oven. The humidity is no joke. community is off the charts. And so I very quickly moved to two, you know, 10 years ago or so during college breaks. So this is a trot laughing at me like a psychopath. Two. And then I quickly learned that in, you know, you know, in the fall and stuff, you can get away with two is not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:18:03 But I would say summer when it's hot, I learn like two is not enough because even like I'm putting on a wet one. It's like I can't fucking hit a golf. Like, have you ever like put on, have you ever like accidentally put the wrong one on? You're like, ah, fuck. Yeah, it happens quite a bit, but it's like, if it's really bad, I would notice it, and then I would even retire it and just be like, this one's not going to work. And then I go to a rain glove. Wow. You've used rain gloves in the summer when it's like 90 degrees and hot.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Is there any thought to move into four gloves? Are we getting there at all? No, because the rain glove just trumps everything. Okay. Right? The rain glove is like, the rain gloves dominates the whole seat. If it's getting bad where three is not enough, you get out the rain glove and that thing, like, is glued to the club. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Wow. I mean, this is shocking. I don't truly know how to take this. I wonder if there's anyone else in the world that does this. I would be surprised. The four changes on a par five really has me going. Like you hit a drive, it doesn't go too far, maybe it clips a tree. You hit like an iron.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You're still not there yet. Your next one's short of the green. You're on your fourth goddamn glove. But it's the first one that you use for the driver. I'm back on the first glove. I know. And you gotta realize like the You got to watch a guy on tour
Starting point is 00:19:16 The temperature hasn't changed You watch a guy on tour They take their glove off after every shot It does feel professional Take a glove off after shot And you feel it's real good And you feel it's really good And we said last week
Starting point is 00:19:25 The glove hanging out of the back of the The pants Feels real nice It's really nice Wow If you do this Please let us know I'm sure you will
Starting point is 00:19:33 But I don't think we're going to get Any responses on that Next question We got a guy Aubrey He basically goes through This whole thing about how him and his buddies got to play Augusta.
Starting point is 00:19:45 They're all really good players. They play college golf. They're all like around scratch or even a little better. They go, they're like, we're only probably going to get to play Augusta once ever. Do you play the tips, basically, was the question. Knowing that it's going to be a battle, it's going to be brutal. You're not really going to get to play the course, like the way that the pros or the best players get to play it because it's long as shit. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's Augusta, whatever. Or do you play the members' teas? what do you guys think? There's no way I'm playing the tips. I'm not as good a golfer as you guys, and it sounds like as good as these guys are, and I would not enjoy myself doing that. I would play for the members' teas just to enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:20:22 because you don't want to be, you don't want Augusta to be a battle, at least in my opinion. I want to enjoy it. I want to be like, oh, I'm in this hole. This is great. I don't want to be frustrated all day. I don't want to play from the tips
Starting point is 00:20:31 and be like, this was the worst day ever. I want to at least try to enjoy the day. Frankie? For me, like I would want to say every time I watch the Masters, I hit that same exact shot. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:45 But as a player, I'd much rather play the members' teas. I mean, I just don't want to shoot 135 at Augusta. And, like, I mean, I'd have to also see, like, the stats and the yardages and the differences. It's like 7450 or something from the tips, and it's like 60. I don't know. I think it's probably 68, 67 or something. All right. Like, if it's something where it's, like, doable, a thousand percent going from the tips.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Just like I said, because like every time I watch a message for the rest of my life, I hit that exact shot. The thing is... I can mentally see what they did. No, I agree with you guys. I think that... Now, he went on to say that they had, like, 30-mile-an-hour wins. The cadets are saying it's the most absurd thing they've ever seen. They all shot like 80, 90, something like that, and they're all, like, scratch golfers.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah. So they kind of had a very miserable time. He said they got the opportunity to go back out and played the back nine from the members tees, and they all made, like, each made a birdie or two and enjoyed it way more. Awesome. So, I, it's tough, right? Because we've all done it. Like, at Beth Page, my buddies and I, we played, we were like, you know, let's play the tips.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Like, we was whatever. And we had a great time. But it does make it tougher. And then there's, it's, I think I'm with you guys. We're not professional golfers. I think if the T's were really short, right, if the members T's were like 6,000 yards, you'd be like, well, that's stupid. Right. But I think, like, 67, 68 is plenty for pretty much anybody that's not like.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And now we're talking it out. It's like, you're still in. enjoying the golf course the same way. It's just not, like, we're not professional golfers. That's why we're not playing from the professional team. Right. And what you said earlier, break, you're like, I want to be able to say I hit those shots. I think you actually have more chance of hitting those shots if you play. Because now I'm 150 out. You know what I mean? Like I actually haven't. You might, like, you know, part five over water. You might have, you know, 2.10 in or something instead of like two 90s.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yes, I retract my same and I would never play from the tips. Yeah, it's tough. You just wouldn't have that much fun. And that's, you don't want your memory of playing at Augusta to be like, that was the worst day of my life. to be like, I enjoyed myself and I played from the T's, the member season, it was fine. Because that's what you want. Like, when you're talking about the differences in yardages, like from 68 to 74, it doesn't sound that much,
Starting point is 00:22:50 but it makes a world of a difference. Even, like, you're mental on the T's. Because, like, I mean, par threes are, like, a disaster. Like, you're turning... I mean, I would feel like most of the yardages would affect me on the part three's the most. Yeah, I'm thinking at Augusta, the fourth hole is, like,
Starting point is 00:23:07 it's legit, like, 245 from the tip. Yeah. I mean, like, so you're, so that's a difference. So, maybe it's, like, 190 from the members. And, like, that's the difference between me making, like, a seven or possibly being able to make a par. And it's like, it ruins your entire day. Yeah. Just because I can't reach.
Starting point is 00:23:22 What am I going to do? T up a three would? That's why I thought that was a really good question. Because everybody wants to say you played the exact same course that the pros play and you try to stack up how you do against them. But it's also, like, who the fuck am I? It's not a pro. Like, I'm not a pro. But, sure, I'll stack up against a pro, but I won't do well.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I'm not a pro. This drives me insane. Like when I posted a picture from any course and it's clearly like not the tips, you get all the hardos that come out like, oh, you're not tipping it out. They literally make golf commercials chirping you for doing that. It's crazy. Tia forward and enjoy the round. Everybody plays faster.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So, I mean, I get it both ways. I know this is a good question. It was interesting that he, so he said they had the decision. They were given the decision afterwards to they could either go play the par three course or go play the back nine again. And I was like, that's the easiest. That's the easiest dilemma of all time. You go play the back night again.
Starting point is 00:24:12 You never play. Yeah. Who cares about the Part III? That would be, I would. Like, I'm not saying who cares about the Augusta part three course I'm saying compared to the- when I die hearing if someone chose to play the part three over any hole. I'd rather play just one hole at Augusta than play the entire part three course. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I definitely agree with that. Yeah, you got to play the course. Which hole it would be if you got to play one hole at Augustine? Oh, geez. If you flew all the way down there, first of all, would you fly all the way down and I'd play one hole? Yes. Yeah, definitely. I wouldn't even hesitate.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Imagine that. I would too. Imagine how much pressure there'd be on your shot? I know which one I would play. 13. Yeah. Not even close. I mean, it's 13.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah. I think it's 13. Right? I mean, amen. I mean, you just, you have to. You're standing right next to 12, like, the green. You get to play maybe the most famous part five of the world. You get a chance for Bertie, like, potentially.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You don't play like an asshole. Oh. Hmm Frankie's I would I would do it for one hole Yeah I would Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:14 Which hole would you play I'm trying to think Trent what about you Let me like I mean It's hard to argue with 13 You gotta do 13 I think I think 13
Starting point is 00:25:22 My second would What would my second be My second My second People probably gonna shit I mean Probably be the second I love the second
Starting point is 00:25:30 That huge dog leg left Downhill Par 5 That hole is Awesome I'd always love that hole that was also when we were on Thursday when we watched the Masters we were at the Masters we
Starting point is 00:25:42 had Augusta yeah I was there all the play had gone through already and we were walking back to the exit while the guys were all in the back nine and we just walked around the second fairway like we were in the middle of the fairway just walking around oh yeah there was no one around we had beers in her hand we're like we're just on the second fairway like 80 yards from the creek uh what do you think frankie it's so I'm trying to find something other than 13 yeah because I don't want to stall. I'm like, I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I mean, you saw the hole one at 16, but you don't want to play. I don't know if a part three would be the only hole because that's just less shots. If you're flying all the way down there, you should play fucking part five. Oh. So then you're kind of down to like two, eight, 13, 15. I think 13's a cool or hole than 15. Yeah, I thought about maybe 12, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You want to hit more shots. Yeah, 12. Yeah, I know. It'd be tough to go all the way down there and just, yeah, I got an eight iron in my hand and I'm hitting one shot. You kind of want to, but it's kind of like, that's kind of badass. You're like, I'm going to take one shot at Augusta, and hopefully I just ace it. Imagine you just hit one on the green two-pott.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Just get out of there. That was great. You know what? I changed mine. I want 12. I'm playing 12. I can hit one swing with a 9-iron or 8-iron or 7, wherever it is. Like, I can do it once.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Just see you later. I'm 100% playing 12. I may play, like, if it's not 12, I think I may play 11, even though it's a long part four. Yeah. Because, like, then you see 12 coming up, and it's still an awesome, like, approach shot. And that's where we saw the guy come out of the... Was that with you guys when the guy just came out of the woods?
Starting point is 00:27:07 The magic rules official just appeared out of the woods. He just like, whoosh, you can't do that. Like, and then there's a whooshed back. It's like... So I guess my final answers, I mean, I was going to say 12, but I thought I'd get shit for saying the part three. I say 11. So 11, 12. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 00:27:24 I mean, that's the three best... 18 would be fun. Yeah, I thought about that, too. She hitting through that shoot would be sweet. You know, 11's nice because if you make a 5, like that's kind of what you're supposed to make right if you make a four you're like a hero i love those hills right in front of 11 too or it's like we always say when you're seeing in person they're like they're taller than you are those mounds the mounds like 10 yards short and right of the 11
Starting point is 00:27:46 green are preposterously you can't see the pin you can't believe how you we legit standing next to them couldn't see the green yeah we like couldn't see the green it's how big there you don't realize that at a tv you think it's just like one steady downhill slope yeah there's these giant mountains just stay in the middle of fairways it's great they're huge all right all right All right, next one. Which do you prefer golf again? 100 degrees where you're dripping sweat or sub-40 degrees and you can barely feel your hands. 100 degrees.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I'm a bad grip guy. I mean, I'm not. I mean, we're talking to the grip master here. Like, you are the grip master. You're the grip king. Three glove care. I can't play. Like, I'm, like, bad with, like, I don't know if I have, like, that problem where, like, your toes get cold.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You don't get, like, blood to your fingers? What's that like? Oh, Robbie has that. What's it? Low circulation? Yeah. No, it's called something like rainards or something. Raynards or something like that.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Rainards, something like that. Yeah, so it's like, it's just like a... You know what that is, Brendan? Raynards. Look it up right now. Raynards. I think that's it. I just get like super cold.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, I really easily. Rainids. Rain outs. Whatever the fuck it is. A condition in which some area of the bodies feel numb and cool in certain circumstance. Yeah, so when I... See you, Frankie.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So I have like a mild condition of that. I don't know if you can have a mild, but I've diagnosed myself with it. My fingers get super cold. My fingers get super cold. feet get cold and like it's just miserable i can't do anything in the cold at robbie's exactly like yeah like i try and go snowboarding and i'm just like i need like it's like crazy we made robbie go film us in time square during the blizzard earlier this year he was like no joke like i might have to go to the hospital after this yeah i'm not that bad he's like my hands are
Starting point is 00:29:21 going to fall off so he said that before we went outside he's like just warning you guys like my hands are going to turn blue and fall off it was like three i'm like buddy we're going to be in time magazine for this to get out there's like yeah my hands are going to turn blue and fall off yeah i mean i'm not that bad but i definitely have something going on so it's like if i'm playing in 20 degree weather, which I have in Colorado before. It was a couple years ago with my girlfriend's family out in Colorado. Boy, was it cold. It was like we tried to be heroes.
Starting point is 00:29:46 We tried to play in like November. And it was like, because we just love playing out there. Playing at a home course at the cousin's house. And I mean, we showed up to this golf course and it was windy. And the people said, we're not going to charge you. Like, because they're like, we can't believe like anyone showed up today. Yeah. So we ended up, like, getting out for free, played on the first hole.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And I, and we, just to make the story fast, I ended up, so I started on the first tee fine, ended up on the third hole. I was wearing golf, my head covers on my hands. Because I, we weren't prepared for it to be that cold. The wind came in. So I would never, ever, ever choose cold over hot. Yeah, I would choose hot. I think I was going to choose cold, but I hate being cold so much. And also 100 degrees, get a bunch of cold beer out there.
Starting point is 00:30:34 mind getting a little sunburn and it's way better. Are you walking? Can you take a cart? Yeah, you get to show up to the course, choose whichever you get. Cart and 100 degrees. Yeah. It's fucking fine. Cold beer, a little burn on top. No big deal.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I hate being hot, love being cold. This is cold for me all day. Really? Oh, yeah. I can't stay. Oh, yeah. I mean, your gloves get all wet. It's just hot, sweaty.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I mean, how many gloves do you need on a hundred degree day? Think about me, too, how irritated I get on a hot day? Oh, thank you. I hate being hot. And you shank one, you're like, it's fucking 100 degrees. Yeah. It's like, it's fucking miserable. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's like, I'm fucking sweating all over the place. What I do? Let's go to a pool or something. Jesus. Hate being hot. Can't stand it. I don't want. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Now we're going to do a little. This one's been kind of percolating for a while. But what is the best golf game? Yes. So, I, this is basically video game. I have a definitive answer as well. I imagine we're going to all have. the same game just different years.
Starting point is 00:31:35 No, I think we're going to have the same year. I think it's that obvious. I'm ready to fight for my year, so. Wow. So let's rule out. We're obviously, we're all narrowing it down to the Tiger Woods video game. Yeah, I mean, what? Everybody is.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Rory Macaroid's game sucks. The Rory game stinks. It's the worst game ever. I think they made it in like a week. It is the most disappointing game ever. It has the worst course list of any golf game to ever be created. I want to throw up just thinking about the game because I waited for it to come out. I watched trailers.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I watched like behind the scenes bullshit. Yeah, Rory was marketing the shit out of it, too. Oh, my God. I remember being bitter when that happened, although I love, because I love Rory as much as almost anybody, but it felt like, you know, he took Tiger's game, and that was it. And I was very mad at him for a while. It was to take his game and deliver a stinker. Yeah, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It is so bad that my, so we have it on Xbox One in my apartment, and we have acquired, we bought an old 360, and then got, we had the games in, like, our old CD cases. So we had a couple of the games. so we've rehashed them. People have probably seen me tweeting about it the last couple months. Bought a 360 and so we could play the old Tiger games. I think we're all going to be.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Is it the Masters Edition? No. No. Wow. So my favorite. I'm looking at Frankie. I know. What the fuck are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:32:49 What the fuck are you going to say? You want me to say it? Oh, no. Let him go. Hold on. Did my mic just turn off? Am I good? I think producer Brendan is just messing with the levels, but I think we should be good.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Okay, good. He's tracking him. It looks like he's tracking him. All right. This is tricky for me. It's getting it emotional. Well, so the 2012 version, which was the original Masters version, I legitimately went to the store that morning, stayed home that day.
Starting point is 00:33:16 It was like a Tuesday or something. I was like, I'm not like going to work that day. Fuck that. Got the game, bought the game, went straight back home and played Augusta for the first time and played it all day long. I doubled 18. I blogged about this before. A doubled 18 and he shoot 74 was devastated.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Wow. Hit it under the trees on the right, trying to cut the... corner. But anyway, so I have a very nostalgic memory from that game playing a gust of the first time, but that game has caddy mode, which is the worst thing ever. So it kind of takes the game down a little bit. What was the catty mode? The caddy mode was it would legitimately, it would just like appear and it would be like 96% flag.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Oh, right, right, right, right. You just had to pull the thing straight back, straight through 96% and it would just like go in the hole. That's right. It was like green, yellow, red if it was like very confident. That's right. It was complete dog shit. That's right. So I'm not a hunt.
Starting point is 00:34:02 We're going to, let's get through it again. That's how I'm starting. What's, what, Masters Edition? Frank. Are you giving me the option? Well, I was thinking what we could do is we have rigs count of three, and then we each stayed at the same time and see where we're at. Because I wonder if we're going to be the same year.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It has to be because this is, without a doubt, the best tag is it. So we'll say 2000, whatever. Okay. When you count to three? Three, two, one, 2007. Oh, wow. Wow. 2007 is the best tiger.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Incorrect. And I'll tell you why. Okay. I wrote down in my journal why. I don't need to write down. No, I don't know why. No, I just had to remind myself how good it was because it's like, that good. Tiger Woods PGA tour 2004 was the first time that they introduced, like, the licensed equipment.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So you went from, like, these very generic, like, clubs to, like, I can use a ProV1. golf ball. I can use a ping driver. I can use whatever. I used to like specifically look for my clubs that I had and I'd use them. So my creative player was awesome. Right? Number two. They introduced John Daly for the first time.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Okay. Who doesn't want to play with John Daly in a Tiger Woods? That was huge with this huge way past parallel swing. Oh, it was big time. Big time on the game. They did a great job mimicking his swing in the game. The other thing they introduced. This is all introductions. The first time that these things have ever come into the game. Did you just know this off your brain or did you look it up?
Starting point is 00:35:32 I just remember, I remembered the John Daly thing, and to be honest, I had to remind myself how good this was. Because I knew this was the best game I've ever played. The other addition is that they added real-time events to the calendar. So, like, you're actually able to play the real tournaments. So if you were creative player. But you couldn't play Augusta. They just called it, like, the spring invitation. The spring major or whatever they could.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Right, but, like, think about how good this game had to be for, like, people to be. Like this was the first time they've ever done it. And then you had to wait until 2012 just to add another thing to that calendar. That just shows how big the calendar was. You understand what I'm saying? That's a good game. I don't disagree. And this is the part that I really looked up.
Starting point is 00:36:13 They said that they perfected the analog swing in that year. It was like people were going nuts at how good like the swing was. It was fluid. Yeah. It was like, I mean, I just don't know how you can hear those introductions and how good these things came in and like say that another year is better. Yeah, I just don't give it. shit, Augusta Trump's all that. Playing Augusta was, we just talked about
Starting point is 00:36:35 what playing Auguste. You would fly out of it out of there to play I'm playing that. You would fly all the down there to play one hole in real life and now for the first time ever you got to actually play the course on the video game. Oh, it was unlike anything on how green it was. They hit you with a master's scoreboard, the leaderboard, all yellow up. It's so good. You see your name up there?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Do they play the music? Do they play Masters? Do they play Masters music on it? Oh, of course they do. Oh, Jesus. Oh, shit. Yeah. All right, let's hear two Well, I don't have all the features like you do, but I know that the beef with some of the earlier ones, 2004, 2007, is that it's a little too easy or it can be. Like putting can be too easy. But there is a point where it gets to, it was like 2010 or 2011,
Starting point is 00:37:13 where the game gets almost too hard. And the sticks become too sensitive when you're with the back swing. I don't need all that in my life. 2007, it's like the perfect year where it's not too easy, it's not too hard. I don't know, again, I don't know the features they added. I just know that that is the best game that I have ever played. 2004 was such a big moment. Like, I remember, like, I was 11 years old.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I remember seeing, like, because I loved Tiger Woods games. Like, I was like a avid little golfer fan, and I was like, I was a huge gamer. And I remember when they, like, when you look up like, you type in on the internet, like, new Tiger Woods game features. And I remember seeing this list of like, we are remaking this game so well that like we are making golf on, on video games real. Like you're going to be able to use a tidalist putter. You're going to be able to use Nike irons. Don't give me wrong. Like going from the EA sports.
Starting point is 00:38:00 softball to the ProV. Oh my God. What have I been doing for the last 10 years? Like, it was such a revolutionary year. Yeah, yeah, and, yeah, you're right. I do remember fitting my irons too. I basically, and then when they had, like, you had to get really good to unlock the Nikes because that's what Tiger used.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And they had the swish on them. RIP to all those clubs and all that. But, and obviously those clubs are kind of dog shit in most people's mind. But in the game, getting swish on your clubs was awesome. And they, like, the Nike ones obviously hit the ball like a million miles further than everybody else's. Now, I could be stupid, but like, is, like, they're a new game? Like, is there? I've looked and they like, not really.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Is it really? Is it off? I don't really know, to be honestly. It's kind of, it's one of the saddest things. Because they just. So what me and the roommates do now is because, you know, the game, once you play it a lot, the game does become just too easy. And it's like everybody just hits it really tight. So what we've been doing is we've been playing with the chicks in the game.
Starting point is 00:38:57 We've been playing with Natalie Galbus and Paula Kramer. because they hit it about the same distance that we hit it in real life in the video game. Yeah. And then we turn the wins on Gail Force wins. That's what I was going to say. Now when it gets too old for us, we just turn up everything. Yeah. Gail Force wins, everything.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So then we go play the men's teas, like the PGA Tour T's in all these courses. If you play Augusta, and it's like there's some holes that fits into the wind. You've got driver, driver, wedge into like a par four. It's insane. It's so fun, though. It's like, it's legit like we're playing. I mean, on the fourth hole in Augusta, you're legit hitting driver. Like it's 245 driver
Starting point is 00:39:30 There's times you hit it like you're 70 yards short In the green on the part 3 Like I just ripped the driver Like I roasted that driver That's when you know you really mastered a game Is when you have to like think of little things To make it that much harder Gale Force wins hard pin placements
Starting point is 00:39:43 The whole deal playing with the chick golfers This is where it all came from when we played Beth page And we played the tips And we were like I want to play it again on the video game We were so hungry because we love the black course so much And we were like how can we make this close to like reality Let's play with the chicks
Starting point is 00:39:56 And you know their driving distance is like 42 on the game or something, right? Like, Rory's will be like 96. There's just 42. They don't hit it anywhere. I do want to give a quick shout out to Mario Golf. That game was okay. I never got into Mario Golf. I got really into Mario Tennis.
Starting point is 00:40:10 That's one of the best games ever. But, yeah, producer Brennan agrees with me on that. Well, I'm a big Mario baseball guy. Okay. So Mario Golf was okay. It wasn't as good. Tiger reigns supreme and Roy's game sticks. And I just tried to look it up.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I don't think anything's coming out. I think Rory may have just destroyed all hopes. It like ruined the whole franchise. Yeah, because now it's like, look how bad this was. everyone hated, why are we going to put more money into it? I wouldn't mind if they, like, went dormant for a few years and then revamped it as just, maybe Tiger or just PGA tour golf, you just do it that way. It was just called Tiger Comeback, like, Tiger's Back, and then, like, they just like underlined back.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Oh, that would be, I'd buy, it. It could charge me $200 for that game. Are you being ugly there? Are you talking about his back or being back? Well, I just think that that could go either way. It could. Matt, you start the way year's season, and he just gets injured in, like, February. You start the game, and you're doing rehab with him.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like you're just... Well, you just don't know. Like, and like, there's a meter on the right that just shows like fusion status. And like if you like have too much of it, like, maybe he has like a crazy shot in like a bunker and like it's strenuous. And then like the fusion status goes down. You like start like, you're like, I'm going to start my career with Tiger in the first event is like you're trying to like drive home shit face from like the box. Yeah. Trying to back out on Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:41:23 What freaking game was it? Was it the last? Was it the last? Was it the last Tiger Woods ever made? where you could play as Tiger Woods as like a little kid. That was 13, 2013. That's number two for me. That was fucking... Game was awesome.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Wait a minute. You're making a... I don't know. I'll do. Let me tell you this. Once I found Tiger Woods 2007, I never did anything else ever again. I just called you Tiger, which is like a huge compliment. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. You can play... You call me Tiger, please? No. Trent, you can play as Tiger Woods throughout his whole entire life. So like, it's Little Tiger. It's a little Eldrich. Like you're putting on the Ed Sullivan show?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yes. No, you literally put on the... You literally... You're chipping into, like, a little miniature blow-up pool in your backyard. In his backyard. In like... What? Jupiter. He's like the first stage to get through together.
Starting point is 00:42:05 He literally putts on the show. I did not. I was a joke. Or am I going crazy? I think you actually do put on the show. I think you do. And then, like, you're like... In high school and you're roasting people with junior golf.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yes. And you're playing tournaments. And it's got, like, a little, like, hazy, like, filter on the screen. 2014 is the one then when they bring the legends in. You can play like Augusta in, like, 1933 and stuff or 1934. Hey, man. Yeah, I think... 2013 maybe
Starting point is 00:42:29 above 2004. I know that in 2004 holds a special place my art because I love I love reality of things like I'm like a huge like I'm a huge features guy like MLB the show
Starting point is 00:42:40 I like I fucking like I like I watch when that shit comes out like I'm like what trying to win the majors with Tigers awesome like I just love yeah so like anything that's realistic is I'm like all in that 2013 man
Starting point is 00:42:53 like playing with Tiger Woods and like junior golf is like the coolest thing I've ever seen well and they need to come out with a new one because they need the next generation. Like they need a game that has Spieth and Ricky and DJ. I would imagine, like, you pretty much always follow the money with everything. I would imagine when the Roy one came out.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It just didn't do anywhere near sales that Tiger did. So they were like, we're not making any more of these games. All right, we got to move on. Next one, this was just a really funny thing that a guy sent in. We could talk about it if we'd like to. It's from Ryan. He said, buddy of mine from work that I golf with in his mid-20s, pretty in shape, claims he's a single-digit handicapped golfer,
Starting point is 00:43:24 but plays two T's up from the tips when everyone else plays the tips, and doesn't give us strokes, thoughts on his bananas move of him basically playing for the senior T's. Outerrageous. I mean, you just can't do it. This is such an... Wait,
Starting point is 00:43:37 did you say a name on him? The guy that submitted it was Ryan, but I don't know what Ryan's... Like, the buddy needs, I mean, like, I need to know this guy's name. Like, if it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:44 I mean, like, it's like sounds like a Brad. Like, Brad can not be playing up there. Yeah, this is tough. Like, when you're, you can't just, you can't just play different T's than your buddy, especially when you're like,
Starting point is 00:43:54 this guy claims a single digit that he's probably around the same as the other guys. you can't be playing the other T's. Or two T's up. Two T's up, that's a crazy move. Like, how would you ever want to look like that? Like, so it's like everyone just leaves you. Like, it's like you have something wrong with you.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It's like, yeah, it's like make a wish. Yeah, it's like, all right, go. Like, you're standing up there. You got to wait for all three of those guys with T off for back there. And then you waltz out there in front. How embarrassing of a moment for a man is that? And he does it all around the whole time. He's got to do that multiple many times.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And like, he's got to know that like when. they like when he takes up when they split ways like they're all just talking about him like you know what I mean like as they're walking up the theater like this fucking guy is such a loser like look at him up there just fucking standing there waiting for us they hit shots like like be better have to be if you're if you can handle it you're not as good of a golfer so it's like but that's the you're not as good of a golfer that's the reason why you're playing at the top of the front t's so just be that same not as good golfer from the back t so that you're not looking like an idiot playing a match it by it's a weird but so I just wanted to read that
Starting point is 00:44:56 I thought that was a crazy move. The last thing that I'm going to put on here, then we're done for the day. This guy, Alex, sends in this long thing. And typically from the galleries, for the record, you're going to submit them. The shorter, the better, because my attention span's not great.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I'm scouring through these things. I don't have time to read, like, a 10-minute post. But this guy's got into it. I can't read the whole thing because it would take hours. But the gist is, this guy, this guy Alex sends in this thing about his uncle. He's got a 62-year-old uncle. Okay. His uncle is, he started, like, his own insurance company,
Starting point is 00:45:26 or something a while back. Got into the point now, you know, he's got his life set up. It's pretty damn good. He has a three, he has the three o'clock tea time every day at his local club. He's a good player. He's like a zero or a one, the guy says. So this guy's uncle started, he's playing in a member guest relatively recently, playing with this guy who claims to be like a college coach at like a local college golf team.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And the guy says, like, hey, by the way, do you have like any eligibility left, like kind of laughing? Bottom line to kind of cut it all short. this guy only did two years of college this guy's uncle he has two more years of eligibility left 62 year old uncle is a upcoming junior on the golf
Starting point is 00:46:08 shit on the golf team yeah that's like a Disney movie unbelievable story I mean I went through being like is this guy fucking with me I googled it to be like is this like a common thing where people look I don't know if it's true or not it's not like this guy's story was very legitimate
Starting point is 00:46:22 62 year old uncle is now junior on the college golf team and he said i mean if this is true get this guy on the show oh we got this 62 old old balls we got to call them old balls he said that they he's talking you know he calls him to talk to like how's college going on all that and he said oh the guys i just moved in they're all being really nice i really miss home they go into the workouts and all like the normal kids on the team like they rotate each day who gets to control the music and all the normal kids on the team putting on like rap and like pop music he puts on the eagles every time yes this sounds so made up yeah definitely true yeah i mean i read it now it's like you know i don't know
Starting point is 00:47:04 it doesn't say what school it doesn't say where it did it was like some little um like a disney movie in a i a is the uh is like the league oh yeah that's uh so that's right so i mean that's you know that's kind of all i know i don't think he goes yeah i'm trying to look oh hold on Bellevue University It sounds like retirement home B-E-L-L-E-V-U-E-U-E University I mean
Starting point is 00:47:33 It's in Looks like it's in Nebraska And apparently this guy is like They told him he's like the oldest college athlete Ever Imagine being a guy Like a kid that didn't make the team Because old balls just came back
Starting point is 00:47:48 Like 42 years later Imagine that? I'm Googling everything I can find and there's nothing. I wonder. That's what I said. I googled it. Like, this guy should be
Starting point is 00:47:56 on Good Morning America. Right. This is the type of story that Good Morning America loves. They got to have this. Or we got to have them on the show or something. Yeah. So I died.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I mean, I legit, I was just getting pizza before we started the show and I was going through some friendly guys. I laughed out loud. Yeah. I was like, where is this going? And then I started a piece of together my brain. I was like, this fucking guy is going to play on the college golf team.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So, yeah. She said that, I guess the guy's wife keeps telling, or he keeps telling his wife, If she's lucky she's going to get some from a junior in college. Hell yeah. This can't be real. I need this guy to reach back out to us and give us more details.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I mean, I had to read it. Again, I prefaced it. Who knows, it might not be true. I wanted to be real. Me too. Unbelievable. I'm going to sleep tonight dreaming that it's real. Unbelievable laugh.
Starting point is 00:48:36 If you've got any more from the galleries, send them to us for Play at Barstool Sports. Dot com. Merry Christmas to everybody. Shout out to all the golfers in Florida. I'm going to be down there Christmas week. Frankie's going to be down there. How long are you going to be down there? I'm going to be down there from,
Starting point is 00:48:50 December 26th to December... Is this him? I don't know. I found a picture. That might be a coach, but that's Bellevue University golf page, and there's just an old dude in a golf,
Starting point is 00:49:03 a matching golf, like it looks like a portnoid jumpsuit, but for the golf team, and there's just an old guy right there on the side. I don't know if this is him. It says 2014, but... Anyway, we'll kind of, we'll try to validate this.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, we need more information on that. It's too good. Are you and your pops going to Florida? Is that what's going on? No, I'm just going down. A little... Where are you going to be, Frankie? What?
Starting point is 00:49:24 Where are you going to be? I'm in the Pompano Beach area, Fort Lauderdale. So it's like... I mean, people have to try to get Frankie Burrellia. Play a little golf with the pizza maker. I think you like to call it like... I'm playing a muni, right? Is that like...
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yep. That's a little term you like to use. I'm playing a little municipal track. A little Greg Norman. Wow. Yeah, it's like Pompano Beach Golf Club. It's actually really nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:46 It's like right by our condo. I'm going to be skiing. I'm going to be in... Okay. Yeah, I'll be doing the opposite. Yeah. Very different. Yes, I'm looking at golf like two or three times,
Starting point is 00:49:54 so if anyone has any things available. I would love to see Frankie take down a couple of plaitrons out there. That would be nice. Hook up our guy Frankie down in Florida. Anybody. Anybody got anywhere going, where are you going, Trent, Danny? I'll be in Seattle. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:50:07 You've been home a decent amount of year. Yeah, I had a couple weddings. I didn't go home for Thanksgiving. But, yeah, so it'll be good to see the folks. Yeah, I'm going home for four days, playing a couple rounds of golf in the chili, which I prefer. Chile weather by boys and go and skiing with my old man. and I believe my mom and my sister
Starting point is 00:50:23 are joining him for a couple days would be a little family trip hell yeah it's great anybody got to the last Merry Christmas Happy, happy holidays By the way
Starting point is 00:50:30 the video that four play I mean the picture that Foreplay put up of that sand wedge with like divvets in it that everyone's been tagging me as my dad's I've been looking to buy that for him for Christmas ever since I saw it
Starting point is 00:50:42 and it's not on the internet Oh that one that's absurd like vertical grooves or whatever it was just like the one that just like cuts through the sand it's like the most like illegal golf club of all time. I look for it.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I even like, I somehow, like, tracked it back to the original poster and it's from Japan. And, like, I looked online and I found a link to an eBay post, and it was once sold on eBay once.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Like, this is like a, just a custom golf club in Japan by this company called Funjoy. That thing is amazing. That club is amazing. It's, like,
Starting point is 00:51:12 my dad, it was born to be in my dad's hands. Like, I can see him, like, I can see him, tearing up, if you handed that to her for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Oh, oh, he would be crying. be crying. How would you find this? I told him that people were, like, tagging me in it, and he started tearing up. Because he's like, like, like, first he was, like,
Starting point is 00:51:29 kind of weirded out that, like, people just know him as the guy who disrespects golf. But I'm like, Dad, you literally, like, move T-T boxes for people behind, like, when they're, like, assholes behind. Like, you just disrespect the game of golf, like, you wouldn't believe. And he's like, and you use the spin doctor. Does he agree, or is he like, no, no, I don't. He just laughs it off and just, like, walks away.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Like, you have to address this at some point. Like, you do disrespect the game of golf. like you do I love he just ignores he just people he gets people like gimmies like from like 35 feet away just like take it up like take a five like you just can't do this stuff
Starting point is 00:51:59 so I mean yeah that's just the way he plays it's fucking hilarious I like it's crazy we all have to play together with him oh yeah that would be that's actually that'll be a video
Starting point is 00:52:08 we're doing that for sure yeah the spin doctor like everything he just gives us lessons we should almost do the video and not let him like know that we're going to be pointing out every time he uses it
Starting point is 00:52:16 and just like see his reaction as to like how he tries to hide it from us He does try and hide it. When he goes on the green, he puts it face down. He won't let anybody else pick it up. No. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:27 We got to do that. All right. Next up, we got our interview with the always candid Pat Perez. Enjoy. We are joined by Pat Perez, 2017 C-I-NB classic winner, up to 19th, the official World Golf Rankings. Pat, thanks for hopping on, man. It's December 18th, not necessarily golf season.
Starting point is 00:52:46 So what are you up to, man? Oh, just a lot of remodeling on the house. About a new house and, you know, just finding a debt thing going. It's not much of an off season here. We just played the shark shoot out last, you know, two weeks ago. We'll leave from Maui in two weeks. So unfortunately, it won't be a lot of downtime for me until probably after the Masters, unfortunately. But, you know, it's going to be busy after being gone in 2016.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I don't really bitch about being busy now. That's right. Yeah. I mean, you were sidelined for most of the year. You came back this year. Had a hell of a season. Yeah, I want to get in a little bit into, you know, the win. A couple months back in October, you kind of talked a little bit about it.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You had some great comments after the win, but, you know, you had said, yeah, I just kind of came off my off season. Talk a little bit about, you know, how you were feeling going into that week and what you were doing in the off season to get ready for that week. For CNB, not too much. You know, I just got down the Tour Championship, and I was leaving for two weeks. I was living in two weeks for Malaysia.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I was trying to get some rest. And, you know, it's hotter in hell here in Phoenix. I didn't really hit any balls. You know, I was just kind of, really I was just trying to get like a nice start or just a start. I was going to a three guaranteed event, you know, events. And I was going to try to get some points and, you know, get a nice start and maybe make some Christmas money and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And, you know, I wound up winning and finishing fifth after that. It was really unexpected. I didn't really prepare enough to play that well. But, you know, maybe that's my secret from now on. So I don't know. Yeah, I think you said something along the lines of, I didn't really do anything. I watched the President's Cup.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I drank a lot that week, ate a lot and hit balls. Plan to hit balls on Friday last week. Once for a couple hours. Instead, we just kind of drank and played some golf. Does that sound like your usual preparation? Yeah, it was for that week. You know, getting ready for Maui now. I'm actually doing a little more serious.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I'm actually riding the bike a little bit. I mean, I've been such a slob the last three months. It's just been embarrassing. Then we were in Cabo last week. I played with Joe Buckdown. I was a good guest. And, you know, I drank an egg enough for everybody there. So I figured I got to get here and do a little bit of work.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And, you know, I'm going to put a little work in for the next couple weeks and get ready for Maui. And, you know, I try to get going. Because I got Maui and then I leave. I come back. for a few days. I go to Singapore and Dubai and then then I got Cabal, L.A., from Mexico City,
Starting point is 00:55:28 and Bay Hill. So, you know, it's going to be busy, but you know, I'm trying to, I'm going to try to give a little more effort. I mean, I'm already number two on the FedEx. I'd like to kind of hover around that number or stay around, you know, the top all year, so I figure I might have put some working since everybody else is.
Starting point is 00:55:43 How's Joe Bucks game out there? He wasn't that great. He actually is for, pretty good. I mean, he's, yeah, he's my boy, but he actually didn't play that well. I think the alcohol kind of got to him. So, but we had, we definitely had the most fun, that's for sure. Yeah, alcohol can affect people different ways out there. Some guys get better, yours truly, and some guys get way worse.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, see, I get worse. So in the second day of the deal, I hadn't had a drink yet because I was so hungover. And then I, and I shot 30 on the front. And I started drinking. We started, we started, we started getting the shots again and all this other stuff, then I basically quit. I was basically done by the 16-year-old. So I'm not good with booze because I lose interest real fast because I don't like the way I feel when I drink when I play. So usually I'll just, if I'm drinking, I just kind of won't play anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And that's kind of how that goes. But I do have friends that, I mean, as soon as they have like their third vodka, they're unstoppable. It is. It's kind of a, yeah, it's a little bit of a bell curve, though, because you kind of, you get really good and then it's like, you know, beer pong or something where you get a little too shit face and then those, even those guys hit a wall and are pretty terrible. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Kind of like me. Yeah. I'm also a little nervous. I'm a little nervous that you're riding the bike and all that because you did say after CIMB that you're not going to change anything. You're still not going to work out all that. Now, you're out there riding the bike. Yeah, that's probably working out, though.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I mean, working out is like lifting weights, these guys with their weights and, you know, pushing bench press and all this stuff. I'm interested riding a bike and watching Stephen A. Smith in the morning. That's it. That's all I'm done. All right. I just wanted to make sure I get a little nervous. We like to protect that kind of that.
Starting point is 00:57:28 That's sacred out there. I'm not getting. No, no, I'm not getting crazy. Believe me. We're not going to see Pat Perez with a six-pack anytime soon? Oh, no. Because my diet is so shitty that it'll never happen. I mean, I'm the guy that goes to the gym for an hour,
Starting point is 00:57:45 and sweats his ass off, and then it goes to get Mexican food with three tacos and a side of roll tacos. That's that kind of guy. So I'm burning 600 calories, and all of a sudden I'm eating 4,000 right after that. So, no, there's no, there's none of that. You won't see a six. Only six-pack is my hand. That's it.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I was just saying, you're not shedding anything out there. You're just trying to maintain, basically. You try to, like, work all that off so you can put it back on. Yeah, I fast and I work out to stay overweight. That's my goal. So, you know, we talked to you. This is kind of your comeback year. You had a hell of a year.
Starting point is 00:58:19 You just talked a little bit about your schedule. schedule going in the next season. What are Pat Perez's goals for 2018? Because, you know, you got inside the top 20 in the world rankings this year. You got yourself a win. What are your goals next year? I don't really, I don't really have goals. I mean, my goal always is to, you know, play as well as I can to be weak. You know, I guess, you know, if you look at long-term, not long-term, but like kind of life goals, you know, to win a major would be amazing. I mean, it's so hard to do, though. There's only four of them. There's so many great played. But obviously that
Starting point is 00:58:55 would be like cherry on top. Ryder Cup would be amazing, even though I don't have any points yet, because they don't do points until who knows when. So my win and my kids play, it don't mean anything. So, I don't know, those two would be really cool. I'd like to win again. I think
Starting point is 00:59:11 my game's in a good spot. I think I kind of know what's going on right now. I'd like to win another tournament. You know, something big, you know, there's a lot top players. That would be kind of cool. And you know, basically it's kind of continue on my, just kind of continue the way I am would be, would be nice. You know, I just try to get better every day.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I learned something all the time. I learn, you know, new things about my game and myself and all this other stuff. But, you know, to get top 10 in the world would be amazing. I mean, I never, you know, not that I never thought it'd be top 20 in the world at any point, but it was, I guess I thought it was going to happen a lot earlier in life. I thought it would happen like before I turned 30, not when I'm not after I turned 40. So, you know, it'd be kind of cool to stay. that kind of position and maybe moving up.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And there's so many good players these days. I mean, it's just amazing. All the good guys, you know, all the good players out there. But, you know, I think I can play with them. And I think I can, you know, I can always improve, that's for sure. So what are we working on right now? You know, you mentioned you're trying to, you know, you want to be ready for Maui. I follow you on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:00:12 You post a good amount of kind of down the line views of your action and all that. When you're going out to the range nowadays, you know, you got another couple weeks to get ready. What are you out there working on, grinding on, trying to approve on going into next year? Well, it kind of happened to last, like, nine holes at Mexico this year. I got tired hitting this weak phase, and I was afraid to release it, and I just finally got to the point where I'm just going to release it. So I started releasing them, and I'm getting more distance out of it, but I now know where the bottom is.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I don't, you know, I'm getting more speed through the ball, and I feel like I've got more control over it, and that's just kind of I've been working on. I am a little more right than I turn it down hard, and it actually will draw a little bit. So that's something I've always fought with this weak-ass fade that I hate. It drives me crazy. And now I've kind of gotten away from it. I've added some more ball speed.
Starting point is 01:01:08 You know, I've just been doing that. I always work on my short game because, you know, my short game has taught me all the way through my career. You know, when I put well and chip well, I have, you know, I have a great week. So I always know that. You know, I have to, those things have to be constant. to me to play well. I'm never going to hit like as far as Dustin or Rory any of these guys. I'm sure it's never going to happen, but
Starting point is 01:01:27 you know, I know I can put as well as them in any given day. And if you look at speed, you know, everybody thinks speed short, which he isn't. But, you know, he's not one of the long guys you're talking about, but his putter is deadly. The same way Tiger was for 10 years, his putter was deadly. I mean,
Starting point is 01:01:44 he hit the farthest at that time, but he hit it kind of crooked, but his iron game was incredible in his short game was just unmatched. And that's why he was so dominant, and people don't talk about, you know, the putting enough. I mean, the putting is basically half your shot. And there's not enough emphasis on it, and I realize it because I know the short game can get you out in a lot of situations.
Starting point is 01:02:07 It can really carry you through a round. It can make a round or you can cheer you around. So that's kind of what I do. That's all I'm working on. You get the draw going. That sounds like somebody that's getting ready for a little Augusta National. Yeah, that last year, last year I knew I didn't have the shot. Even though I finished 18, there was some shots up there that killed me that I didn't have.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And, you know, you got to have that draw. I need to draw, you know, well, actually, you can use it almost all the way around the place. But, you know, one, two, three, five, seven, the fade killed me. It was terrible eight. I could have used it. Ten, obviously. And, you know, 13, I couldn't get the green because I couldn't hit it. I couldn't get a far enough left.
Starting point is 01:02:50 14 is a massive draw. You don't realize it on TV, but the whole fairway slopes to the right, and you've got to be able to hook it into that hill, you know, so it can actually hold the fairway, and then you can try to make birdie. You know, and then 17, 18s is kind of a straight, you know, baby fade. But for the most part, yeah, you've got to be able to draw it at Augustine.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I'm excited to put that in this year, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, we were kind of, we were down there for the first time ever for any of us this year. And I was amazed, standing on the 14th T, you know, at where you're looking up there, and you've got to play a pretty significant draw. And then, like you said, I mean, how many balls you watch on TV, even TV, that land on the right side of the fairway and kick over into the rough, maybe some tree trouble? It's not a easy tee shot.
Starting point is 01:03:34 No, you're dead. You're just dead. I mean, Phil, you know, the left team is not to say, I don't want him to have an advantage, but, you know, Phil could hit a pretty good fade. But for him, he fades into that hill, and, you know, obviously, he can hold a fairway. but it takes some distance off. If you can, if you're right-handed player and you can draw it, you've got such an advantage, and you have such a shorter club in,
Starting point is 01:03:55 you know, that's the kind of stuff I'm looking forward to this year. I can't wait to get back there. I love it. He's eager. So let's talk a little bit about Tiger. You were actually, you know, you were sort of vindicated in your comments from last year. You took a ton of heat, which is stupid and, you know, social media kind of got off that. Everybody overreacts and all that.
Starting point is 01:04:13 What you said, you know, you basically said he knows. Well, the problem is, you know, the problem is, you know, the problem is they, took, they took one thing of what I said, and they made that sound like that's all I said. I mean, I went on, I had a three-minute piece on what I said about him, you know, which was such horseshit because I didn't attack the guy. I've been like that guy, three years, and what benefit would it do to attack me? But, you know, a guy calls in and says, what do you think about Tiger today? And I said, what do you want me to tell you?
Starting point is 01:04:39 I mean, you're looking at the, well, I'm looking at it. I mean, the guy, you know, he's obviously, he played the hero, he finished 15th. you know, then he did what he did, and he, he went through from Dubai and then, you know, L.A. and all these other things, and I said, you know, what do you think you're going to see him? I said, if he doesn't play well, you're not going to see him. But I said, I think that he thinks that he can't beat anybody right now,
Starting point is 01:05:00 which if you ask him honestly, and if he gave you an honest answer, he'd say the same thing at that time. At that time, he would tell you, yeah, I can't beat anybody because I'm either hurt or I'm, you know, I'm whatever. But that's what it was. And like you said, you know, the world just came down to me, like, you know, how can you,
Starting point is 01:05:16 dare talk shit about this. I said, I wasn't talking shit about him at all. I said, somebody asked me a question. The Golf Channel is a bunch of punks. I can't stand them anyway. You know, they took it, and then they made it sound like somebody died. I mean, that Kelly Tomic, she did its report on it.
Starting point is 01:05:33 It's like, oh, my God, can you believe what Pat Fores said. About the Great Tiger Woods, even though I said that he should be lynched and this and that, you know, she gets to keep her job, and nobody, you know, nobody puts her on blast. You know, if that's somebody else, that guy gets fired immediately. You know? Or no problem. Yeah, and it's...
Starting point is 01:05:49 Sending for a couple weeks. Everybody left you go. No problem, huh? And it's crazy because, I mean, we're the biggest Tiger fanboys going, and we even, you know, we could look at what you were looking at last year at the same point, be like, you know, this isn't a guy that's like thinking he could beat people right now. He can barely walk. No, I mean, the guy can barely walk, and I said, if he's no Tiger the way,
Starting point is 01:06:09 I know Tiger and you've seen him, and the guy's three months older I am, you know. I've seen him do everything. He's been beat my ass since we were eight years old. I've seen it all. And I know when the guy is on and when he's not. And if you look at the things in the past, you know, he played the Bahamas. Okay. And then he loves to play Tories.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And then he goes to Dubai. And then he, you know, if he doesn't play L.A., if he doesn't play Bay Hill, and the thing he loves more than life itself is Augusta. If he doesn't play then, this is what? And this what I was telling this, inner, this question that I answered. I said, if he doesn't play then, then what? And I said, you know, he only plays seven PGA tour events a year anyway. So then what?
Starting point is 01:06:46 He's not going to play after that. And you're talking about the U.S. Open. Okay? Is he going to come back there in Hills and play a 7,800-yard course? Probably not. You know, then he's going to go to the British and play Brutdale. I don't even know if he liked that course or not. Then you've got the PGA, which possibly he could come back.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But then let's see all this stuff happens, right? And he doesn't play well. Now he's not going to qualify for the FedEx Cup. So then when do you think you're going to see him again? You think he's going to go to Malaysia? No. You know, he's not going to play in those. He'll be getting ready again for his own.
Starting point is 01:07:16 permanent. That's just the facts. And that's exactly what happened to a T is exactly what I said almost a year ago now. Yeah, but all that context. And the world just blast. All that context, people just want to, you say you shit on it gets way more clicks. So they don't care about all that context. It's a click game. No, no, exactly. And then some asshole from, from Gulf Digest put out there and said, Perez says Tiger can beat nobody. And that's all they put. So, I mean, that just, and then all of a sudden, you know how social media goes. It's like, it just spread through the world.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I get this phone call from the guy. Hey, man, what the hell you said about a tiger? I said, what are you talking about him? It's all over social media. You said that, you know, basically Tiger sucks and he can't beat anybody. I go, that's not what I said. That's not what I said. I said, he was going to ask my co-host, Michael Collins, what I said.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You know, and I called him, I said, bro, do you remember me ripping on Tiger last night? he goes, no, why? He goes, why? I said, check social media and see what the hell is going on. This is going through the roof. And he actually went the bat for me. The golf channel just slating. The bottom line is, you know, and I said 100 times.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Tiger's the greatest thing I'm ever going to see with my eyes. He is the greatest, as great as these young kids are today, they aren't tigers. They have not had their dick handed to him by this guy. They have not seen this guy show up the red shirt, not talk to anybody, and beat everyone's dick in. I mean, they haven't seen this. You know, they don't cheer.
Starting point is 01:08:39 He didn't cheer for them. anybody. He doesn't wait for anybody to get done. He doesn't go on spring break trips with anybody. I mean, I love the new kids. They're fantastic. I think golf is an unbelievable spot right now. We've got such good players. They're all coming up together. It's all great. But Tiger was Tiger, and it was so different.
Starting point is 01:08:56 And, you know, the guy was so unbelievable to watch. And I've said this a million times. You know, for some reason, people think I'm like this tiger hater to watch for him. I couldn't be any less. I told, you know, I told, you know, I the guy, and so I told him to his family. I said, you know, you're one of the same thing like Jordan. Same kind of deal. But that whole thing suck, man, because, you know, the
Starting point is 01:09:18 world turned against me and then, you know, I guess once they started, you know, once it all started coming true, it wasn't like, hey, you know, by the way, this guy was right. Why do we beat him up so bad? It was just nothing. You know what I mean? Did you hear, he just kind of forgot about it somehow? Did you hear from Tiger at all during that point when all that shit was going on? No, I sent him a test. Hey, man. I said, I don't know what the hell is going on with this world here, but I said, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I'm not, I'm not apologizing, but I said, I didn't talk shit about you. You know, I didn't talk shit about you. I just, someone called in to my radio show, you know, and I said, what do you think about the state of Tiger right now? I said, what do you think the state of it is? I mean, you know, because people call in every week on my show and they want to know what's he doing. What is he, you know, they think like I've got a direct line to him. Like, he's going to tell me, you know, what's going on. I said, guys, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I'm seeing the same thing you are. I said, obviously, he's not good shape. He's obviously hurt or something's going on or else he would play. You know, and then you get to the DUI and the dick picks and the whole thing. I mean, God damn. The guy had him, you know, it's just, I want to see the guy come back. I told us a bunch of that. I said, I don't want to see things like that ruin him.
Starting point is 01:10:33 You know, I want people to remember how great he was and how, you know, his 79 wins and the majors and all he says. I mean, but I want him to go out on his turn. I want him to be able to come back and play as much as he wants and go out of his turn and go away when he wants to. You know, it just sucks. But, you know, this day and age, man, it's really hard to give an answer and not have to worry about what if someone's going to put you on blast.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And the reason why you usually don't get. you know, what people would consider real answers, everybody's robots and stuff, it's because you can't give a real answer. You can't, the guy that's sitting down at Hooters watching the TV, if he gave an interview, nobody would give two shits what he has to say. Even if it was true,
Starting point is 01:11:23 even if it was talking shit or whatever it is, but a guy that's involved in business, if he said something, he's a hater, you know, he talks shit, he can't say anything because he's done as good as that player, you know, that kind of stuff. it's really a shame because there's actually a lot of great guys that would give a lot of good insightful answers
Starting point is 01:11:43 but they just won't do it because they won't take the chance on the fact that they're going to get their dick kick him because of giving their honest opinion on something and it sucks it really sucks so that's kind of why you always get your bland plain answers because people are tired of getting worn out they're just tired of getting worn out that's the way the media world is now it's unfortunate
Starting point is 01:12:05 that I learned the hard lesson. Somebody asked me that question again. I'm going to say, hey, I don't know what he's doing. Sorry. I don't have an opinion. Sorry. Yeah. I just not.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I've learned my ear because I had to hear it. I had to hear it on the course. Some guys like, hey, man, you're talking shit for it. I got 79 wins. I said, no kidding. I know that. I know everything. I know everything about the guy.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Believe me. Go talking shit about him. I go, guys, you're totally missing a pointer. So, anyway, bottom line is, you know, I was glad to see him. I was glad to see him come back. You know, he looked great. He looked like he was playing, you know, not like there was no rehearsal swings.
Starting point is 01:12:44 There was no, you know, kneeling down because of this background. He just looked good again. He looked like he was just doing it. And there was no mention of anything. He said he felt great. You know, I'm glad. I want to see the guy play again. You know, it's amazing how much bigger a week goes on.
Starting point is 01:13:05 with him in it. It's incredible. That's incredible. Yeah, it really is. And you're right. It sucks that you give a candid answer and, you know, in today's kind of headline-grabby world, you get killed for it. But, I mean, you gave a candid answer. You said what you felt and you turned out to be pretty spot on. So I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Anyways, let's move on a little bit, a little bit more fun stuff. You kind of touched on something right there, but I want to ask you, what's the craziest thing you've ever heard from somebody in the gallery?
Starting point is 01:13:33 Crazier thing. God, you think I'd remember, too. I'm sure it was some comment, not towards me, but like a yelling comment about something. I can't know what the hell it was. I can kind of remember. Some guys said something, and I photo with me, I was laughing so hard. You know, you see guys in these outfits or, you know, a comment or something. I mean, it's just, there's some of these guys, they just get it. I mean, they just get it.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And, damn, I can't remember, though. Man, what season heard so much, I can't really pay. 10.1. What's one rule you would change in golf? You could change one rule. One rule. I would change. God, a thousand.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Really grilling you here. I don't think you should be penalized for hitting the fairway. If you hit into a divot, I think you should go to drop it. I love that answer. That's exactly what my one rule has been forever. I think one rule, you know, Jack isn't saying it forever, but it's true. You know, if you hit into a spot and it's got sand in it that was just filled, you know, that's ground under repair.
Starting point is 01:14:49 It really is. You know, I always thought the wind thing was stupid. You put her down, and the ball rolls away. And I mean, if you didn't touch the ball, then you didn't cause it to move. So why would you get penalized? I think the best one they just did, which I can't fucking believe took as long as it did, was the guy that can call in. Fuck that guy.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And can you penalize or disqualified. I don't understand how were the only sports that left that go on for so long. I mean, I watched about 20 of the shittiest calls I've ever seen in my life yesterday on football. And what number? This is the question. I've always asked what it's going. What number do they call in?
Starting point is 01:15:26 I play on the tour, and I don't even know what number to call. What number are these people calling to get people penalized and or you know, disqualified. Like the Lexi thing, that couldn't have been any worse. That was so shitty. It was such a shitty deal. What kind of asshole do you have to be to call that? Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:15:45 You've got to be that guy. We don't know the number either because we'd be assholes if we knew it. But the guys who do it, they have to look up that number, and even by the time they find the number, they're still like, I'm still going to be a fucking asshole and call this in. That's how big of assholes they are. Yeah. I just don't understand.
Starting point is 01:16:00 And we bitch about it forever. And I always said, you know, why are we letting some guns? You know, because the whole thing about it. And it said, well, you know, that's bullshit. We saw it on TV. We should let it call us. Well, no, you shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:16:13 When you're watching football or baseball or, you know, whatever, you're watching the entire sport go on at the same time for four hours. With us, I tee up at 7 a.m., another guy tees off at 210. The TV only runs for three hours, right? So not everybody is on the TV. So it's fucking Joe Small over here. moves his ball and it's on on TV, nobody can call in. But if you are one of the really good players and you're on TV every shot,
Starting point is 01:16:42 that's the thing they always said about, you know, or Tiger did this, Tiger did this. Well, Tiger, they would watch Tiger take a shit if they could. You know, they would put a toilet cam in there if they'd say, because they love this guy so much. And that's what it was, because that moved the needle, right? That's what people want to see. They want to see him do anything on TV. But it's not fair to him that he's on TV all the time
Starting point is 01:17:01 and gets all the scrutiny and gets all this bullshit because the other guys the guy could kick his ball down in a fair way nobody would ever know because it's never on TV, right? So I could never understand why that rule was never changed you know, way long ago and the fact that, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:18 somebody could call in and get you penalized. I mean, I can't even believe that, you know. But thank God that rule, that rule changed. But, yeah, I don't like the debit one. I think the debit is pretty bad. and the one that we have, which is one of the worst I've ever seen in my life, if you miss your pro-antime, pro-antime, you can actually get this qualified from the tournament.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And having to Jim Furik at the Barclays in New York, he missed his pro-emptime by five minutes and got D-Qed from the tournament. That's insane. I thought that happened to John Daly, too, at some point, but maybe I made that up. It happened to J.D. at Bay Hill. Oh, that's right. He was the third alternate.
Starting point is 01:17:57 The first guy didn't show. The second guy was later. something and JD wasn't there and got DQed and the king like banned them from the tournament forever. He never got a spot again. Jesus. Wow. That's a harsh rule. That is. What'd be like the Warriors having a pickup game with some business guys
Starting point is 01:18:15 deal the night before the final, the fucking game seven. And Curry shows up like 20 minutes late. It doesn't get to play the game. I mean, that's how ludicrous it is. That's how stupid it is. What is, in your opinion, you in the greatest or the best shot you've ever hit? Best shot ever hit is easiest. It was the 90th hole at the hope.
Starting point is 01:18:40 The sixth iron wind pumping off the right, it hits a three feet to win the turn. Then what's the worst shot you've ever hit? Too many. I don't even have one. Too many. I got way too many. I couldn't even narrow that down to a thousand.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Oh, man. Everybody hits way more shitty shots than they do good ones, but I'm sure I have. have to think about, so. What's your favorite, what's your favorite course on tour? When you show up and you think, all right, this is my, this is my track. This is where I like to be. What's the, what stands out for you?
Starting point is 01:19:15 Well, funny enough, the two ones I've won on, two of the ones I've won on, I always thought I could win at. C-I-N-B and Mexico, because they're not real long courses, and I love the putting green. They're like a slower type of, I mean, what the hell they call? I don't know what kind of grass is, but I love the grass. It's a slower type of green, and it's not real. along. But I, you know, and that would be like Riviera. Riviera is one of my favorites.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I think it's, it's stood in the test in time. It is a phenomenal, a phenomenal course. You know, obviously everybody loves to Gus and all those other things. But, you know, Tori used to my favorite until they made it 9,000 yards. Yeah, people forget you took Tiger down at Tori in 1993. Yeah, that's the last time, too. Kicked his ass. I got him once.
Starting point is 01:20:05 At least I got them once. I love it. Yeah, I'd say rib. Probably Riviera. That's my favorite course. All right, Paparaz. Well, man, you're coming off an awesome year. Big win just a couple months ago.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You'll be back in Maui. We really appreciate you taking the time. We know you're a really candid guy, which, like you mentioned, you know, get all the time out here in golf. So we really appreciate it, man. You got it. No problem. All right. Take care.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Good luck next year. And we'll talk to you soon, hopefully. That's all I got. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.

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