Fore Play - Paul Azinger: "Being paired with Tiger is just different"

Episode Date: March 12, 2019

NBC lead analyst, major champion, and 2008 U.S. Ryder Cup captain Paul Azinger joins the show for the first time (46:45). In a very honest chat, Zinger discusses his true thoughts on Rory's closing struggles, what it's really like taking Johnny Miller's seat in the booth, what it's like being paired with Tiger Woods, and what type of carnage he's hoping for at The PLAYERS Championship. Before Zinger hops on, we breakdown the best Notah Begay x Tiger Woods puns and go through headlines: Tiger arrives at Sawgrass; Molinari is a savage; does it really matter what anyone calls The PLAYERS Championship?????You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I'm going to go as far as to say. I feel like we can cancel winter. It's over. I think winter's canceled. I got up to go to lunch today, and I spun around and tried to grab the coat off the back of my chair. It just wasn't there.

That's because winter's fucking canceled. I'm not jumping into that just yet. Come on. It's a nice place to live. Yeah, but this happened. It was like last week, and we were all wearing. We were wearing long sleeves and, like, jeans. Some people were wearing shorts.

I don't Glennie Balls wore shorts last week at one point. And then they hit us with a fucking frigid two-degree day. We jump. Next day. We jump forward with the daylights thing. It's been warmer out. The forecast. Looks, I saw something in the 60s this Friday.

It might rain, but something in the 60s. I think winter canceled. And you're right. Trent Danny, when I went to lunch today, too hot for a coat. It's too hot for a coat. And I think the reason I reach back for mine is it to, been winter for nine months. This is one of the longest winters I can remember. I can't remember

a time when it wasn't winter. My muscle memory is so that I turned around and tried to grab my coat because I haven't known anything else for what seems like a year. Paul Azinger on this show. We did about 35 minutes with Zinger. He's awesome. He's obviously 12-time PGA tour winner, major

championship winner won the PGA in 1993, captain of 2008 US Rider Cup team when they won. Remember that being getting our shit pushed in for years leading up to that? Aesinger talks about that. He talks about how I think we lost by nine points, the two rider cups before that, and then won at Valhalla. That was when, who's the, what's that absolute beauty's name?

Who was riding like he was like riding his golf club, who's a beau? Is it Bo? What's that fucking guy's name? You know who I'm talking about on that Rider Cup team? Looks like he's like, kind of looks like you, Trent. Oh. Handsome devil. How come nobody can think of this?

Handsome devil, it must be. Hoster? No, the housework was like five years old at the time. Our internet doesn't work. Literally, I'm trying to look it up. We're not just living in a place of not knowing. How can nobody know? Who am I?

He's a big hunter. He's like a total fucking like, oh, nobody can think of this guy. Come on. I can't, my internet, literally. Bo Hunter, University of Windsor Athletics. That's not. I'm just getting a circle right now. He's a, like he hunts.

He's like a fucking, like. Bo Titzworth? There's a PGA tour guy named Bo Tittsworth. Can you look up to that? 2008 Rider Cup team. Boo Weekly. Boo Weekly. What a name?

Jesus Christ. Boo? Boo Weekly. I typed in all. I typed in Bo Hunter golfer. There's a golfer at the University of Windsor. Bow Hunter. Shout out to you.

Let me tell you this. Go Lancers. Boo Weekly is like the greatest ball striker of all time, and I believe just like a terrible short game. But he, he was on that squad. Anthony Kim was on that squad. Awesome team. Anthony Kim. Anyways, Paul Asinger, I can't believe we couldn't come.

up with Boo Weekly. I do, I will say he's on like the Hooters Tour now. I will say you threw us off the scent with Bo. Well, I was like, it's something like, you know, I was just throwing, I was three off the scent. Let's not be able to come up with that. Let's let's slip on Bo Titzworth, who is, I guess, is a player right now. He's made $739 on the tour in 2008, 739.

Let's not sleep on the fact that I'm still trying to upload my search of 2008 Rider Cup team. I still have internet. Mine just says no internet. Literally my screen says no internet. Yes, it does. So Paul Ezier, captain of 2008 U.S. Rider Cup team, he, in the last couple months, of course, seceded Johnny Miller as the lead analyst for NBC Golf Channel.

So we talk a lot about that. We get stories, again, from him partnering with Tiger Woods at the Ryder Cup, what that's like, to captaining a Ryder Cup team, to now kind of fulfilling the shoes of Johnny Miller, all kinds of good stuff. He's got all kinds of insight on the players championship on Bay Hill from last week. He's a very outspoken and honest guy. So he talks about Rory McElroy, his thoughts on why Rory can't close. He said the job that he has now, it is the least rewarding job that he's ever had.

A little teaser there. Yeah, it's like, yeah, talk about the new gig. He's like, it's the least rewarding thing I've ever done. It's wonderful. It's amazing. It's a very good interview. No, he's got good reasons for it. And he obviously, you know, he loves it, but it's different than his last job where

if you won, you got just, I mean, you won a golf tournament. So you got a million dollars and you get a trophy, you get patted on the back everywhere you go, being a golf analyst a little different. So it's a fascinating interview that's coming up in a few minutes. Stay tuned. Spring golf, I got to say, I saw this tweet by Spring Golf the other day where they just unveiled this new mobile app. This might be the cleanest thing I've ever seen.

So clean, so fresh. I couldn't believe it. I gasped. Are color schemes? Gassed. Color scheme off the charts. I'm looking at it right now. I mean, it just looks.

it looks so friendly. It just looks like this is, it looks like this is a gateway to an unbelievable amount of fun. Supreme Golf is, of course, our title sponsor for the entire year. We love Spring Golf. They love us.

They're the best, so it actually just makes sense. It's very cool that we get to promote something that is phenomenal. Unbelievably clean. Islander colors. I mean, this is right at my alley right now. I didn't even think about that.

Damn it. I didn't even think about that. I stuck that right in there with the great color scheme. I really walked right into that. one, didn't I? SupremeGoff.com. You go to the app store. You can download Spring Golf.

Their mobile app. Again, we're looking at it right now. It's incredibly clean. I don't think it's Iowa-under-colored colors, but, you know, you can always get. It's blue and orange. It's similar. So, they're the best T-Time app. Get Sabrina Golf.

Big week. You know what else is clean? Our fucking new logo is clean as shit. Dude. I just, like, stumbled upon our Twitter page. It's fucking clean. Every time I see it, when it pops up on the Twitter or on the Instagram feed when I'm scrolling through, I just see that logo.

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Or like little stickers like they sell at the Bordy Barn. We do need stickers. I think that's an auto sticker. Put it everywhere. Auto sticker. Yeah. We're going to, by the way, keep your eyes and ears peel, ladies and gentlemen. we are going to have that 4Play logo on cool stuff very soon.

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You are going to like it. So stay tuned for that. It's Players Week. Players' Championship Week. Sawgrass, Island Green, the final three holes, that stretch, all that good stuff. We get that this week. Pretty exciting. I love this week.

Again, Zinger kind of goes through a lot of that, a lot of the players and talking the differences between playing it in May versus now playing it in March and the overseeing of the golf course, what it's like to come down that stretch. He said he's been in the mix a couple different times at the player, so he's got really good insight. But Tiger Woods, video just went public. We just saw it. We tweeted it out. We timed these podcasts well.

Tiger Woods has arrived at Sawgrass. It seems the last couple, every time we've gotten this studio, either something just happened or was about to happen. And he looks great. Shades, backwards hat, carrying his shoes. Neck, I've never seen a neck that looks more healthy than that. He was looking either way. Have you ever seen that? No, I mean, it's the healthiest neck I've ever seen.

Head on a swivel. At first I thought he was floating, and then when you look at it more closely, he's actually walking into the clubhouse as if there's only a certain type of people that have this walk and it's only in certain situations and one of them being, and I've always thought that this was odd, that professional baseball pitchers are able to walk off mounds like differently than anyone else is allowed to walk in real life. Like they'll walk and it's real serious and like they're kind of just like,

they're walking into the dugout and like no one's allowed to look at him, no one's allowed to talk to them. You know this walk I'm talking about? I do. Like a guy fucking blows him by a batter, 100 miles an hour. And then the way he walks to the dugout is like a walk no one else is allowed to do, let alone do. And Tiger Woods is walking to this clubhouse.

No one's allowed to look at him. He's on a mission from the car to his clubhouse. And that is the, it's a guy who's determined. That's what I see. It's a determined walk. I see a determined walk. You cannot tell until the very end of this video that he has legs and is walking. It honestly, the first like 70% of it, he's like, there's these bushes.

And it looks like he's just floating into the clubhouse. Yeah, and you just see his legs in his, I mean, those are the legs. If he had appeared on the other side on one of those those what are they hoverboards like oh yeah that makes it. Or like a magic carpet. If there was like a whole team of little people like carrying him in on like a little magic carpet that honestly like I wouldn't have surprised me. The way that he walked in there and then you're like the white on white on white. He's got the whitest shoes I've ever seen. White shirt like collarless shirt.

It's all brand new shit too. Oh yeah. And then the white like just basic black Nike backwards hat with nothing on it. That's the tag. I mean that's our guy. It's incredible. how vintage just in the last 12 months the backwards hat the shades

and him walking into somewhere usually a golf course has become as soon as I saw that all the fears and all the anxiety about the neck stuff completely went away. Nobody with that case shoes walks into a clubhouse like that are you fucking kidding me? I walk gingerly they walk scared

I will say I put in my blog that I expected like the next stuff scared us so much that if he had been wearing a neck brace like that's how I expected him walking up to sawgrass but since he wasn't wearing a neck brace I think he's going to be fine. Unable to turn his head. What he scares me is Tiger is so fucking ahead of the game that he could have,

like that collar on that white shirt could be like 10,000 pounds and it could be like completely supporting his neck. Like we would never know. Tiger, you know what I mean? Like he's wearing a white t-shirt, but that collars made a steel. He's just so far advanced to the technology of neck and back stuff. Like without that special, you know, steel-collared neck, he can't even move his head.

Or like his backwards hat is actually. stabilizing his head like it's like it's a vibranium yeah it gets like a um there's like a laser connection to a satellite from up in space that like keeps his head in place as he walks there i don't think that's true how nice must it be to you know he wakes up and someone from his team gives him just and all he he took all that outfit out of a plastic bag brand new yeah don't you think like isn't a little bit of that don't you like to like wear stuff after you've worn it a couple times like brand new white shoes like that man it's true white shoes so clean i would imagine he's so used to it that he's just

like oh there's the i got to rip this plastic no do you think tiger takes his tags off his shirts himself yeah you think tiger walks into a nike shirt and has to rip the i think they send him to tagless yeah what about the little thing on top of the hat's a little black thing that always comes on the top of the could you imagine what the Nike like send merch to tiger person the note they would get from mark steenberg if tiger had to take all of his own tags on what he's there with like a little pair of scissors. Dude, I would get the fuck out of here. Sometimes those things are hard to get off.

They cut up your finger. They cut up your finger. And sometimes it's like, what was this thing made out of? Like, you're like, sometimes I figure like, this is made out of the most expensive fucking material on earth because I can't rip it off. Dude, I bet his drawers are just full of these things. And he doesn't even realize when they restocked them. No.

Like when he's gone, when he's gone from his house, they just restock everything. And he gets back and he's just like, oh, I got all new stuff. Karen, can you step into my office, please? you sent Tiger a bag of Nike clothes with the fucking plastic tags on him That's how you That's you know Fast track to the unemployment line

Get the fuck out of here Are you kidding me? You are fired On the spot What are you doing? That guy doesn't get tags Are you kidding me? Anyways, he looks great

He's walking into sawgrass You know I don't really know what else He can say about it Other than Well I guess he's going to do media tomorrow So Tuesday This kind of

It's so weird how they do this but this news broke during Arnold Palmer this past weekend that Tiger is going to be doing. He's expected to do media Tuesday. So if all continues on this trajectory, it seems like the withdrawal from Bay Hill was just a precautionary thing, which is best case scenario for us.

Tiger last year, you remember, he made quite deep push on Saturday and Sunday at the players. Oh, yeah. He got himself in the mix. I think he made the cut like on the number, and then he just went on a tear on the weekend. Unfortunately, Webb hybrid Simpson won the third. tournament going away, but Tiger was in the mix for a little while, and he, of course, won in

2013 was the second time he won it. 2001, I believe, was the first time he won it better than most, all that. So he's got, for a course that he's played as many times he has, because he obviously plays there every year, he doesn't have a great record there relative to other courses that he plays every year. But he has played pretty well there lately, so we'll see. It's going to be interesting to watch. He's been ball striking.

It's a ball striker's course. He's, you know, he's been hitting the ball well. putter was the big issue if you remember last time in Mexico so we'll see hopefully the neck looks good it looked great when he floated into the clubhouse Molanari Francesco Molanari My boy

Your guy This guy is a savage He is just an absolute savage For him to post an 8 under At Bay Hill Green's rock hard rough's insane He goes out there Comes from

I mean he wasn't even in the fucking tournament And then all of a sudden he just wins I won easily Makes a 50-foot slider bomb on the 72nd hole. Gives about as much of a reaction, as much of like a fist pump as you're ever going to see out of this guy. Wins pretty much going away because these guys coming down the stretch, they really, I mean, 17 was unburdiable.

He can't even keep the ball in the green. So unless these guys made like Eagle on 16, which they didn't, they did have good looks. Fitzpatrick had a good look for Eagle on 16, but missed that. And once he missed that, the math was just not there. There's no way to birdie 17. And 18 is a really hard hole, too.

He would have to birdie both of them. So it was pretty much over. He came out of nowhere. Bay Hill's awesome. I mean, that course is awesome. Rory in the final group with Fitzpatrick. This was, I believe, Zinger says this in the interview. I love calling him Zinger.

Awesome name. That's a great name. Rory's, I think, seventh straight final pairing where he hasn't won the tournament. Seventh straight final pairing where he hasn't won the tournament. Seven straight time he's been in the final pairing and hasn't won. He's at the point now. Because he'd say, let's say that number was. four, three or four, you'd be like, all right, I'm going to take away from that.

That's good. Those are good things. My game is trending in the right direction. The more he finishes that way, the worst it gets. Like, he's just got to win at some point. Yeah, I don't know how you don't think about it every time. I mean, now, right, he's good enough that he's always going to be in the mix. I mean, if you look on the PGA tour, right, like, if you're, you know, if you're like

seven to 12 under par through three rounds, you're pretty much always going to kind of be in the mix depending on the golf course. And, like, he hits the ball so far and so pure and so straight that, you know, you're you know, the par fives are a joke for him. He, I think, you know, he reaches every par five, pretty much with an iron in his hand every single time. So the par fives are a joke for him. So, I mean, almost no matter what he does,

he's going to have at least some chance. He gets in the top five or so going into Sunday. So now it just becomes a thing of like, hey, dude, yeah, I have a problem. I cannot close golf tournaments. It's the fiend out problem. It is the fienow. I mean, phenow.

What did he finish second? Like five times. Tony. And our guy, Colby, for anybody who doesn't know, Colby, bet on him every tournament last year to win, Finaw, every tournament. He just got him. He's his ultimate blue balls. And you're hooked.

You can't not bet him now. For the rest of the time. You're the biggest loser. Have to ride him. Have to ride him. Have to. So, yeah, Rory, I mean, it's tough. Rory's a superstar.

We like to see him win, but it's becoming a thing. He's got the Masters in a month, which is crazy to say. Masters is about a month away. It's the only major. He hasn't won. He's going for the Grand Slam there, so he'll have a ton of pressure and whatnot. But yeah, his ball strike can continue to look good. He just didn't quite get it done.

He doesn't make the putts. We talked about it a couple weeks ago, like watching him. When you actually having PGATor live and watching Roy McRoy's round, especially like Thursday, Friday when you don't typically get to see every shot. Like Saturday, he's always in the mix. So you always get to see pretty much every shot. Thursday Friday, watching all of his rounds sitting in your cube. And the only people they show are like six people at a time for fucking five hours straight.

So you actually get to see every part of Roy's round. and it's just stunning how many puts he misses. I mean, they never go in. I mean, think about that and how many tournaments he would have won. And then now, seven now that he's been in the final pair. Yeah. I mean, this guy would be absolutely cleaning up. He's having a final round issue, Rory McElroy.

There's no doubt about that. But he's too decorated to like, you can't throw the Ricky Fowler terms at Roy McRoehrie. Can't throw Ricky Shea. Correct. I agree. You can't put Ricky Shea shots at, at throw it. I am on fire right now. He's too, he's just too much.

Yeah, Roe McSha. Rory Shea shows. No, it's not there. It's Ricky Shea. Ricky Shea's good. Ricky Shea's, I mean, you can't throw Ricky Shea's around there. You want to know how fucking on fire I am right now? I just got a message from someone.

Actually, our close personal friend, Josh, who sent us these tasers. Did you get a taser today? Oh, yeah. I put one on your desk. You put one on my desk. So I got a tape... I walked into work, and I just had a taser sitting there. Like a very fucking legit taser.

Yeah, it's got your name on it. It's like inscribed and shit. It's fucking crazy. No, they're sick. I put one on Dave's desk, too. So Josh hits me up. He's like, glad to see you got the taser saw your Instagram. I said, dude, we were stunned to get him.

Yeah, no, you think you're on this little hot string. You're on fire. You're on fire. It's good to podcast with you and you're on fire. Glad to see you got the taser. I said, dude, I was stunned. Did he laugh? He did.

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Has that thing been on there the whole time when I was talking about the logo? Yeah, it's kind of like staring it at you. I was going like this. Spitting it a little. Wow. Fire. It's nice. People check it out.

I'm not, our new gear, I'm not kidding. Our new gear is going to floor people. Oh, my God. Anyways, Roy McRoy needs to figure it out going to the final group. Spring is creeping up on us. Finally, warmer weather and less clothes. You got to keep your body fit. You got to get your body fit.

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That's classpass.com. slash try slash four for your first two weeks free. ClassPass.com slash try slash four. Players championship, fifth major. There's a lot of golf twitters losing their mind over the fifth major thing. PGA Tour pushing to call it the fifth major. I don't, I feel like we, like, we do this every year. We, I'm sick of doing it.

We need to figure out a way, like, can we pull all of the current PGA Tour players? And if they think it's a fifth major, then it is. Not that it doesn't count as one, but I'm sick of people talking about whether it is or whether it isn't. I'm not saying you make it a fifth major, but I think if we pulled all the PJ tour players and say let's call it the fifth major, because I don't like doing this every single year where like, do we call it that? Do we not call it that? Like, let's just get a definitive answer because we do this every 12 months. I completely agree.

I think we just need to not care. Like, it's not people, for whatever reason I feel like this year, people are taking it like there's a, a legitimate concerted effort to transform it into an official major. And I don't see that going on at all. That's just not happening. Right. Even the term fifth major actually, by definition, excludes it and says that it's not as big as the other four. Right?

Because nobody calls the PGA the fourth major. Correct. Right? Like you consider all of them on the same pedestal, even though they're not. They are. Right? Like in a technical sense on paper, they are the exact same thing. PGA, the British Open, the U.S.

open the masters are like the same level of tournament. Right. By saying that it's the fifth major, you're just saying like, oh, it's just not as good as the other four, therefore it's not a major. So I don't understand why are people so upset about this. Call the fifth major. Call it the players. Call it every fuck you want.

There is a very legitimate truth to the fact that people when they talk about somebody's career, they'll be like, oh, yeah, Sergio Garcia Garcia has a master's and a players. You know, like they go out of their way to say and the players. And it happens when you talk about Ricky Fallow that he hasn't won. won a major yet, but he did win the players. But he won the players. So it is, yeah, it gets mentioned. It's not like it goes by the wayside when they're talking about career achievements. Yeah, and it gets a, it gets a, hmm, that is impressive. That's kind of what it gets. Yeah. You know, hmm. Yeah, no. It almost gets more publicity being called the fifth

major than the other majors get by just being a regular major. Totally. And I know, right? Like, I would know a lot of players be able to tell you instead of exactly which major they won, I'd be able to tell, well, they did win a players championship. 100% I know where that's played I know what that I know what happened there You had to go through the island green You had to go through the 16th With all the water down the right

You had to go through 18 with all the water down the left Like I know what that means So it's it's fine right where it is I don't understand Every year we have this narrative where Should we call it that? Should we not call that? How about this? Do whatever the fuck you want And it's just going to be the tournament

That people go to people play in it It's a very prestigious one to win And it'll always be noted in the guy's career That's it's big time I mean it's bigger than any other event outside of the major. It's like I'm trying to compare it to another sport. The way that they say Fifth Major,

trying to compare it to something else, it's almost like when, like, your team plays its biggest, biggest rivalry game of the year, and someone's like, that was your World Series. Like, when the losing team would be like, oh, that was that team's World Series. Like, yeah, it was a fucking huge game.

We got up for it. Like, you know, Ranger fans always say it to Islander fans. Like, that was your Stanley Cup. Like, it's not technically the Stanley Cup, but we fucking tailgated, we partied, we won. It was like a huge moment for us. It's a game won't remember all entire, year. It's not a part of the playoff system, but looking back on the year, it was a huge game. So you can

call it whatever the hell you want. And, I mean, this is a tournament that Tiger Woods sat out last week, so he could play this week. It's massive. What does that tell you about it? It's massive. It's just, it's a bigger than normal event. That's just what it is. It's a huge game, whatever you want to call it. But it's a player's championship. I'm fired up. I think what you said, how it's repetitive, it's repetitive, and we get to watch it every year, and it's something we know the shots. It's iconic holes. That makes it bigger than most. Oh, yeah, it's a nice. You're on fire.

I mean, you're just on fire. I mean, he's on fire. You're just, look at him. You see him just slunk back into his chair. I feel like I'm, right now I'm a part of his tree. I'm upset because of the smirk that you have. I mean, I'm on fire, baby. You did smirk and fall back.

Like, you didn't have to say anything else the rest of the show. I'm pumped up to watch the players. Me too. Like, that final fucking stretch, the island green, they were talking, like, the hope with a wind's up. When the winds up, it just makes it all kinds of cross winds, which again, Paul Ezier gets into. which changes the whole dynamic versus what it's like in May when the winds are down. Like, we get some, there's some fucking carnage at this event. You will see, this is one of those two, right?

Like, a normal PJ Torven, if a guy's not playing well, like they shoot a couple over or something, missed the cut, they end up like four or five over at the players championship. When guys are struggling, there'll be guys that are like fucking 11 over bar, which is awesome. It's just one of my favorite things in golf. The one thing that does suck is they've been overseeding the hell out of it, which, you know, again, we get into that a little bit,

but it's, you know, they try to make it super green and look good and all that instead of kind of playing the way that it's meant to be played, which is really the only downside. But Players' Championship Week. I also believe this is the one-year anniversary of the Lucas Glover round. Oh. Lucas has been on fire, man. He has been playing very well.

You're right. I believe he had an off Saturday round, and then things got out of hand. You're right. He did. He made the cut, and then he had a hundred. horrible, I think, Saturday round. And that didn't go over well. We don't have to talk about it.

I just wanted to let people know. I like to mark history. Yeah. One year ago to this weekend, that's what happened. Yeah. Okay. I was going to look up the leaderboard from this past weekend to see how I did. Again, my internet.

It was so bad. Yeah, isn't that nuts? That was the players championship. That's crazy to think about. You know what? This is the two-year anniversary of, I believe. Oh. when Kip Henley caddied for VJ Singh

And then we had him on the show like a week later That's right He left Vijay after the player's championship Wow Said it just wasn't the right fit That was two years ago, right? Time flies I think so

Lucas finished T10 if you were looking for Oh wow dude he's on fire Yeah he's been playing really well You guys keep saying that like he's on fire And he's finishing all these T10s and racking up money But I mean I just don't know if it's good enough We'll leave it at that I know that you're saying that it is I know you're saying he's bringing home

You and I got into this last time. It is. He made $209,000. I know. I'm just saying, how do we know where the line is at? How do we know what's acceptable? I don't know if we do. Have you seen any police reports lately?

No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying I don't know if, I don't know if he's not supposed to be shooting for the stars. I don't think, I don't think he's allowed to be content with T-10s anymore. But I think right now it's becoming, I think right now it's becoming a little too common. I will say this. If Lucas Glover finishes T-10 every week, I think she'll be happy. shit ton of month. We don't know where the line is, Frank. I also don't know if it's the money at that point or if it's like she's married to a winner.

Being a winner. You got to be a winner. No, but I don't... There comes to Tal-Dak in a night's reference. I need a winner. I need a winner. I was going for two hours. I was going for two hours.

You crudely past your foot. It's a Vermont. Oh, and shout out to Kevin Kisner. What was it, 27? T-23. The fucking K-23. God damn it, kids. Just keep doing you.

This was frustrating. This was one, I actually put out a tweet, kind of like, you know, giving kids a hard time, but with the understanding, like, oh, no, this is going to be a much better week because kids teed off, I believe, and, like, tied for third yesterday. He was at, like, 7 under, leader was at 9 under. He's right there. So he was in, like, the second or third to last group. I don't think they showed him on TV once the whole day.

I couldn't find him. I'm staring. I'm looking around. I got, like, my fucking telescope out trying to find him in the background of all their shots. Do you have a telescope? Can't find kids now. It was kind of a better. It was a joke.

I always wanted a telescope. The problem is we live in the city. We can't have one. Can't have one. I imagine taking one up to your rooftop, though? There's smog up there. You fucking give me, Frank Cantanee. Damn.

In Missouri, where I'm from, if you drive a couple, like an hour outside the city of Missouri, same, I'm sure, back to your app. Buddy, the whole sky, you wouldn't believe what the sky looks like. You could see into space. You would not believe what the sky looks like. It's stunning. Since the waste management, these are, these are Kevin Kisner's finishes. T-26, T-28, T-288, T-27, T-23.

Oh, my. That is an unbelievable Kevin Kiddah. I think at the beginning of that, we said that Kiz is just like a T-25 type guy. We had him on the week before because he committed on this podcast, remember? To the waste management. And then he's gone on this run where he could not be more consistently in the mid-20s. What's he making? I mean, I know it varies.

I think he made like 80K this last week. I think it's 78 as well I saw. So, yeah. So you figure like three or four or five T-20 to 25s, and he's making at the end of those five rounds like, 350, 400 grand. Yeah, and that's just like with a pretty mediocre month that he's at. Mediocre month. He's like a nice month of like 400 grand.

Yep. Just like, you know. Yeah. And if he played like one of these, like he should have. This last week, I mean, he should have. He would have a decent Sunday. I mean, he would have made several hundred grand. Yep.

Yep. But that's a Kiz. I mean, I did. So I tweeted out. Oh yeah. He shot 75 yesterday. Right. I did not realize he shot that out.

He'll figure out much more more money makes. So Kiz, that's also a long golf course for Kiz. Yeah. He hits the ball, kind of a little bitch. But Kiz, you know, I tweeted out yesterday. Somebody's like, oh, Kiz is about to T-off. What do you want me to yell at him? And I said, yelled at anything greater than a T-27 finish would be nice.

Kind of mocking him because, like, he's clearly going to finish top 10 or something like that. No. T-23. What a stretch. I hope he keeps that going. Nobody should feel unsafe at home, period. Fear has no place in a place like home. That's been Simply Safe's mission from day one.

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Speaking, a quote, it would be blank. Like that would be, we know that that was a Noda Begay comment. So here's a couple good ones, exactly. I'm excited. One of them, this information has been notarized. I love that one. That's strong. Notarized.

That was sent in quite a bit, and people, there's a lot of weight behind that one. People are into that. Notarized. This information is notarized by Tiger Woods. Very solid. Quota Begay. This quote has been approved by Tiger Woods, and these are the quotes that you get from Quota Begay.

Another one, no duh, be gay. That was my favorite one by far. That's my favorite one by far. No, duh, bagu. Like, yeah, no duh is saying all this good stuff about Tiger Woods, because that's why he's employed. No, duh, bagu. It's perfect.

No duh. As a fearless leader of the more like gang, no duh, bagu, baguay is. It's like no dash Duh, no duh. No duh. That's the one that I'm most surprised you didn't get tripped. Yeah. I thought you were going to just spit that out. What's the one thing that when you read it?

It's like obvious. Like, oh shit. Like, it's Noda Begay? No, duh. I'm old for two on the show. VJ swing. No, duh, Baga. Oh, VJ swing.

VJ swing is beautiful. That's a beautiful thing. Oh. That one's a little bit of a stretch, but I like the thought behind it. It's amazing that there's this many, we couldn't dig a one. And then the last one I've got on here, Noda Ben Gay, the pain relief cream for every tiger injury room. What was the one Colby had? Did we talk about that?

Oh, fuck, yeah. Notification. Oh, that was the one. That's a, that's so. Shout out to Tony Fienaulby. You get a notification. Which he was right. It looks, when you spell it out, it looks pretty tough.

Yeah. But when you say it, you get a notification. Yeah, I just wrote it down. Notification is amazing. We've got a notification. Everybody knows what that is. That is going to be the new segment anytime Notivegay has news on Tiger Woods. It's a notification.

How many notifications do you think we get this week? I think we get at least two or three notifications regarding his neck, regarding the way of playing, how we woke up. The press conference tomorrow or today. So I think this. I think you guys can call him no dub a gay. but I think the official term whenever he updates about Tiger Woods I mean you know they put him on the fucking set

right he sits there on Golf Central he doesn't say a fucking word the whole show and then like right at the beginning though they'll be like so no to I understand you got some updates well I was over at the house earlier today and you get a notification that's a notification I love it

I really love that that's just so good notification so strong I mean imagine they hit him with like the breaking news news graphic in information. It just said, notification. I mean, there's a very real chance

that Galt Channel steals that. Like a very real chance. Well, yeah, they do the Whitney on the NHL Network does, are you with it? So, I mean, why are they not doing notifications? Like the notification segment. Notifications is 800,000 times better than wit it or not with it. Witt it or not with it.

And Witt will tell you that's the worst segment name in the history of television. What I'll say, if Gull Channel, if you steal that, I guess that's okay. but just know that we know that you stole it because that's gold. Honestly, if you just put per the four play golf podcast, fine. Done. Put our logo. Yeah.

Actually, just, yeah. Put our little stamp right next to it. Put this thermal on the desk and then do the notification. Notification. Notification. God, that's good. Oh, it's hard for me to imagine how good that is. Wow.

I wonder if we, do you think we could have ever come up with that on the show? No. And Colby came up with it off the top of his head. We were sitting in the radio, remember? pretty sure. He said it's a notification, unless I'm wrong about that. Maybe. I don't know.

Notification. That's fucking perfect. I cannot wait to read the next notification. I bet on Thursday's show we got at least a couple notifications. We've got to get one between now and then. He's got to say something. Jason Day. Jason Day would drew after a couple holes on Thursday.

Now, the reason I put this in here is because gambling in golf is about to become incredibly important with obviously the legislation across the country. Golf is starting to already. I know per my sources, taking a lot of, like, pre-steps to make sure that once gambling is a full-on go for golf in, like, all states and all this and that, that golf's ready for it. Jason Day kind of ignited a conversation about should the PGA Tour disclose weekly injury reports basically for gambling reason? Because right now the PGA Tour does zero. There's like no injury reports whatsoever. Whereas in every other spray, if you're gambling on hockey or on baseball, like team submit, like,

injury reports. So you know by like the rules of the fucking game. Like you know where players are at. If you need to be a little more careful with your bet on this or that because that guy might be hurt or we might not play or whatever. Golf, you just like unless you were, I don't know if you would have had any idea that Jason Day was potentially going to withdraw from the tournament. Whereas he like basically knew. He was like, yeah, just a couple holes in. I knew I couldn't go and it wasn't feeling great that whole week. So it's kind of ignited this debate of like should there be injury reports in golf or not. My gut says yes. What's the downside of that? Do players not want to reveal that they have something going on?

But it's not a team sport and no one's going after them. It's not like their injury would affect anyone else's round regardless. So I feel like that information absolutely should be. There's no problem with that. I think so too. I think just do a weekly injury report. I don't understand what the problem is. There's no strategic advantage to the other golfers if Jason Day is hurt.

Rory Macaroy, hearing that Jason Day is not feeling well or thinks he may not be able to make it through has no. effect of Rory McElroy's round. But if you hear that in a game, right, like in a hockey game, like Johnny Boychuk's favoring his left leg, like, you know, he may do stuff like that. You may send the puck in on his side and, like, go after him and stuff. That's just something that you do. It's strategic.

But in golf, it's not. So give us all the reports you need. That makes sense to me. So I have a couple quotes about this. One from our guy, Kevin Kisner, who I believe was on, like, the board of players, like, opinion or some bullshit. He's on like this board. He's not qualified for that.

He's got, like, a role that he has no business having. On a board? I think so. He's on, like, um. What's more stunning that he has, he's on a board or that, uh, that Brooks has a camp? Well, Brooks having a camp was very surprising, but it's like been of development. This Kisner thing, they, they quoted him like, Kevin Kisner, who's on like the players. You know how they have like the NHLPA?

I think he's on like the PGAPA or whatever the fuck it is. Jesus. So that was shot. Kevin, tell us how it is in the middle of the leaderboard. What are your guy's thoughts? He's like, what did he say? So Kevin Kisner said, it's nobody's business. I mean, are we out here to gamble or are we out here to play golf?

I don't really give a shit about the DFS guys, David Fancy Sports. You should have picked someone else. If he had shot 65 and hurt his back, those guys wouldn't have said anything. Where did he say that? Did he say that to you in a text message or something? No, he said that on, this golf channel did a little article on this whole thing. It says, said Kevin Kisner, co-chairman of the Tours Player Advisory Council. Oh, my God.

Are you fucking kidding me, Kiz? How did I not know that? What is that? He might have told them to that, said that to them, like, as a joke, like put this in there. Because that can't possibly be true. That's like Pam from the office, when she just makes up that she's the office administrator. I'm the office administrator. Yeah, I think that's what he did.

I'm the co-chairman of the Tours Player Advisor Board. That's not even a thing. It's not even a thing. Player Advisory Council. Like he's a fucking Jedi Knight Like he's sitting on the Jedi Council So say what he said again What was his quote?

It's nobody's this is such a Kisner quote It's nobody's business I mean are we out here at gamble Or are we out here to play golf I don't really give his shit about the DFS guys You should have picked someone else If he had shot 65 and it had a hurt back Those guys wouldn't have said anything

It's like so anti like common man Kiz To say that Yeah but Kiz is very much Always been defensive of like The guys being able to just play golf And do their thing however the fuck they want and not be bothered. I mean, gambling is big, Kevin Kisner.

It's going to be huge. Well, it'll be bigger for that, right? I think it'll make golf bigger and therefore. Right, that's what I'm saying? Personal brands. Like, what are we out here to gamble? You're out there to play golf, but there are millions on millions of people who want to gamble on golf. You're going to play golf and make money, kids.

Like, grow your game. Guy lives, you see how many fucking ads kids has on him? He's out there to make money. PGA tour spokesman said for the foreseeable future, medical information is considered confidential. players are not required to disclose an injury. Jimmy Walker came out a little different than Kiz. He said, I'm not saying anyone did anything malicious, but yeah, it's a bigger deal.

There might have been a head-to-head matchup with Jason today, and if a few people know that he's probably not feeling good, people need to know that. It's a big deal. There's a lot of money out there. Yeah. That's the right way to approach that. I agree with that. I think, like, you just need to embrace gambling.

It's going to be better for every sport that does, and the more you push back against it, I think you're just kind of hurting the growth of your game. What a world. Like, think about how much fantasy sports has made football. much bigger. It's made football. Dude, that's like, yeah, that's why so many people are into it, no doubt about it. What a weird world where we're taking Jimmy Walker over, Kevin Gister's opinion here. I love it.

We're just a good point. We're in the Walker camp. On this particular issue, we're in the Walker camp. Unbelievable. All right. That's pretty much all I got. Next up. You guys got any of them?

I don't think so. No. Frankie? No. It's a nice little hoodie. I knew you were going to bring that out. I mean, it is. Well, you know.

I almost brought up before when we were talking about the way. You wore it for the first time a couple weeks ago. I'd say it two months ago. Me and a couple of the guys in our area of the office were worried because you wear something like that. It's probably going to get called out by maybe the boss or just about anybody. Whenever I wear anything that's out of line, a cool guy for you. A.k.a. not an Islander shirt or a Borrelli sweatshirt or just like very plain color sweatshirts. I'm told by people in the office that I'm getting.

a little too big for my britches. Yeah, man, it's like a, that's, for you, that's like a cool guy hoodie. This is like, uh, like, where's the old Frankie type hoodie? That's what people tell me. It's like a, it's like a, I don't know. It's, to me, I always think it's like, uh, John Mayer Paradise Valley. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's like, you're on a ski trip and you bought, like, oh, this looks really casual and cool, but it's actually like a $300 hoodie. Yeah. You willing to tell us the price? Oh, I got that urban outfit is for like $49. That's not bad, no. Yeah. It looks like you took like the Arizona, like, night and just put it on a sweatshirt.

Like, Arizona, Desert Night, like, scene, and you put it on a sweatshirt. Yep. It looks good. I like it. It's comfy as shit. I bet it is. And it's the right kind of, like, material in this type of day where you don't need a jacket. You walk around.

It's, like, just enough, you know, warmth. All right. Look, we like it, man. Yeah. We're not coming out of shit. I'm tired. Did a 14 hour, 50. I keep, like, changing the hours.

I'm pretty sure it was, like, 14 and a half hour. 14 and a half hour shoot yesterday for for barstole wasn't jake there for that too jake was there too yep he sounds fine yeah i don't know how frankie was like working working i was kind of just in the back doing well everyone was working everyone was jake was working we don't need you guys to both give each other like all the it was it was it was a fucking golf it was a crazy shoot man crazy uh next up paul a zinger uh we gave him a good introduction earlier so yeah um you know who he is he's uh he's all over now he's lead analyst for him because he's uh he's all over now he's lead analyst for DC golf, very, very honest guy, very experienced guy, very accomplished golfer.

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Paul Asinger just finished up at Bay Hill. How was the week? How is we feeling just kind of about the state of the game going into the players this week? Anything I've seen in a long, long time, it was all international players at the top of the board, Europeans. I mean, it looked like a European right. global brand, completely global brand, and there's a lot of international players that are going to be weeks when it's going to be like that. Just pretend you're talking to All-American. It's really pretty good. I mean, as long as Tigers in the picture, there's never anything to

complain about. But these young players play the ball, you know, way up in the air, it's so exciting. I mean, people ask me all the time, is you think these guys are better than your generation. You know, it's just different. Everybody's got, they've got swing coaches, mental coaches, politicians, they've got fitness guys, it's different. I think it's a lot harder to be a good player now than it was when I played. I think they're way different. Yeah, it was interesting yesterday because, you know, Bay Hill is a very difficult golf course. I think with how firm the greens were, with how long the rough was, I think a lot of people

thought, you know, with Fitzpatrick and Rory, if they could go out and shoot something, just anything under par, they'd have a really good chance yet. They both kind of came down the last couple holes, almost out of it because Molinari with an 800. Did you see an eight under out there at all? No, it wasn't out there. I looked at where the holes were cut and the texture of the greens and it just wasn't there. But it required, you know, 150 feet of putts to go in for him to do that. Pretty solid.

Could have been, should have been good enough to win. And then Roy, I don't know what's going on with Rory. If he feels too much pressure on Sunday if something changes or he wants it too much, it's hard to know what's going on. You know, he's a secative time. he's been in the last group, and he's losing the guys he should be beating. And maybe he never was, I guess. I don't know, but when you're winning by eight, you're winning majors by eight, that's intimidating.

Now suddenly he can't beat guys that you would think he could beat. A fan, you need a win right now. Yeah, it's interesting because he was, I believe he's the only guy in the top 14 that didn't break par yesterday, which is, you know, for Rory, a guy with as much firepower as he's got, he can reach all those par, five's out there. How much, like, as obviously very accomplished players yourself, 12, PGA Tour wins, major champion, how much as a player does that start to, those kind of things, start to really creep in your head and affect you going into a final round when you've got kind of building up a little bit of a history of something like that? Well, he's thinking about it. It's in there,

and it just doesn't get any easier. I think he's really the prime example of how difficult it is to win on the tour. But he's not playing great final rounds when he's in great position. and, you know, he's got to figure out how to rectify the entire week. And so that's six just not going to get it done. You know, truthfully, Rory, he's the kind of guy that should have to, you know, it's a mental battle for Rory. I guarantee it's him against himself because he can own the golf course. I think maybe just almost a little more desperate.

You know, I hate the idea that he's going to go out there and, oh, I'm just going to be relax. I'm not going to anything bother me. You know, it should be bothering you. And, you know, that whole, that's just a little bit of it. just a different mindset, you know. Imagine telling Lanny Watkins, go out. I don't have a good time out there, Lanny.

Are you kidding me? It's just not that fun to try to win. It's fun when it's over. But trying to do it in the moment, one day at a time, fun to watch. And when he gets it going, when he gets it going. Yeah, he did when he had that stretch in 2014, and a lot of times where he's seen him really go on a tear,

is he did have that killer instinct look on his face, you know, the way that he reacted after Puts went. And even Ryder Cups when he had, huge moments in rider cups that he's got that kind of killer look at his eye. And like you said, when he comes out yesterday morning before his round, he's kind of talking, yeah, we're just relaxed. And it's like, well, that's not really you. You need to be kind of a killer, like a little bit of a prick out there almost to get the job done.

There's nothing easy about it. You don't go out there and be the most relaxed. You get out there and desperately stand over that seven. You know, there's something else that goes on in your head that allows you to get those in. Something clicks. Now when they get on that rider cut, team and they're putting in match play, there's so much more finality in the putt. You either make it to win the hole, you make it, you have to make it to tie the hole

or avoid losing the hole. About that, that makes Poulter a great, tremendous on the greens. I mean, it could be a mindset of some form. I think it is, but it's hard to watch. You know, I think really Rory hits it as well as anybody in the world every single week. But yeah it'll be it'll be interesting to see kind of you know how he figures it out going forward he's obviously got a bunch of top five I think he finished tied for six yesterday so he's right there and he's won a lot of big events before so I imagine he'll figure it out but you got to be opportunistic

you know like Molinari Molinari had an opportunity to close that thing out yesterday and he did it he did it on 16 where he had to the put on 18 you know that is a gigantic moment for you know he won the Open Championship and he has a great Rider Cup moments and all that, but how many moments has he ever had in his lifetime where he could make a put like that to win a PGA tour event? Not very many. That was a huge moment in his life and his career. I was happy for him. I really like watching him play.

He's kind of monotone in his actions. But boy, when he let loose on 18, it was like, yes, he did it. And he knew that was going to win. We all did. Yeah, you don't see that out of him a lot, but he was. You could tell he was fired up. That meant a lot. He kind of sneaks up there.

That guy, he's a force to be reckoned with. He's a close. He made a couple dramatic putts, like in his own open, the Italian Open in the past, and he just does what he has to do when he's in contention. He's a closer. And, you know, Tiger's a closer. Nicholas was a closer. Guys that get in contention and finish it off,

hired, guys that get in contention and, you know, get kind of either a back-door. They got mental struggles that they're going to deal with every single time they play until they overcome that. And that's where Rory is right now. I think he's got to take a hold of something, whatever it is, and attach himself to it, whether it's on the Greens or not. Right now he's attached to this relaxed kind of one day at a time, you know, live that way anyway. And that's a life lesson. And it's kind of the same on the golf course, but there is an urgency and there is a self-awareness.

And, you know, you just have to self-aware. He's got to come up a little more clutch, and it's usually on the Greens. The Sunday's scary is Do you ever get that creeping feeling of dread and anxiety? I'm sure you do as Sunday comes to it close. Every time we do these reads, we usually work Frankie into these because he just worked some long hour, horrendous shoot.

And here we are again. Every single day. And I just got off a 14 and a half to 15 hour. I'm very... I thought it was going to be 30 hours at this point. I don't know. I'm all over the place. I've told some people it was 11. I've told some people with 16.

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So let's talk about your new gig, you know, lead analyst for NBC, Golf Channel. obviously a huge job in the world of golf. It's a very interesting job. A lot of us just kind of, you know, it's the voice in the face of a ton of the top-level golf that we get to consume. So we find it very interesting. It's the Monday morning between Bay Hill and the players' championship. When you guys finish up yesterday in an event like Bay Hill, what happens? I mean, you all just kind of split down.

Is there like a big celebration? What's it like when you guys wrap it up? Saturday. And literally count down to zero. Dan Hicks is finishing it off, and the producer says, good job, everyone. It's like the least rewarding things you can do. For me, honestly, I love being able to call golf, to call live golf in front of millions of people, and to have the spontaneity to react right away.

It's something I like, but it's not as much fun as what Molinari did, you know, where your result is tan. People may love what you say. Some people may hate what you say. but I think I mean in the end you're just doing your job you're enjoying that but after you're done no one's saying man I loved it when you said this or by anybody like if you win a tournament you're getting patted on or any broadcasting foot it's all about Michael Phelps you know it's all about who won the world series it's all about reporting the action and that's different for me I'm kind of used to it now but when that

headset when we go off air the headset comes off we're packing up our gear and heading out the dinner, either sometimes together, sometimes separately. So what are these next couple days look like getting ready for the players? I mean, you out there, you know, we hear guys all the time. We hear like Faldo, I was down there this morning rolling golf balls. Are you out there in the mornings like rolling balls? And what are your kind of next couple days of preparation look like so that, you know, you're fully ready to go, ready to rock on the commentary?

Well, it's helpful that I know all these courses kind of like the back of my hand. You know, going down to Mexico City was tough because I ran around that course twice. the same day, just trying to remember which direction the holes went even. And asking the Greens is a mystery cult. But once I landed in Florida, of course, I know Honda like the back of my hand in Bay Hill and TPC and St. Pete. I know all those courses. So preparation is a lot easier. And I'm not the guy out there rolling putt.

The Greens haven't changed much through it. Once you see where the hole is, nowadays you've got these books that'll point which direction. You like to be on the range, though, and I do like to talk. That's an inside information I think the viewer is when we get to office. that goes with it. You can't, whatever comes out of your mouth, you can never get it back, slomacy, you know, not to get yourself canned. You know, sometimes the truth can get you fired.

So you just got to be careful out there. We had Brandl Jamblay on a couple times, and he, you know, he took some criticism for not being on the range, that he was like a ghost on the range and this and that. His response to that, to a degree was sort of, you know, whatever information they feed me on the range is going to be, you know, biased or it's going to be, whatever information they want to get out there, not necessarily the raw facts and kind of a different type of approach. So do you, in kind of conversely with the caddies and the players in the range, do you, you

know, try to filter it all, thinking that, you know, it could be different than, or because it's exactly what they want to get out there, or does that not really factor in? That doesn't factor in. I mean, I don't want to bond with the guys and get to know them all, like, go out to dinner and all. I want to be fair to the viewer. But you want to be fair to the viewer. And, you know, I always said, golf digest wanted me to do a Q&A.

I said, why don't you wait until I'm completely retire? Then you can find out. I try to be guarded, you know, with respect to what I say. For information I get from the players, I'll figure out a way to work it in for the viewer. You've got to let the picture. I mean, you can watch any sport with the mute button on these days. And if you don't like the broadcaster, just mute it. It's not like you're missing out on anything.

I just can give you a lot of good information. You get it kind of how these guys not necessarily. ever tell you what they're in what is that they think is really similar you learn how to pick a and feels like under your feet you know there's a in that second and a half you can play without words in that second and a half you shoot 70 you're only at it for about a minute and 30 seconds of actual motion the rest of it is just can't trick the viewer not they know what they're doing they know what they're thinking you know as as golfers themselves and if i can add some kind of insight to yeah i will i will say zinger like i've got a lot of words going on about i've got

Oh, shit. Well, what does every great athlete say in their moment of greatness when asked, what were you thinking? They have no idea. And consider every motion hitting a hockey puck, a free throw. All those motions are under two seconds. It was in the zone. And so is it possible a second and a half? I always say field first, which it does, and then comes the field last.

But bottom line is there's a great relationship with those. So you, of course, succeeded Johnny Miller, as in your analyst position at NBC. Did he give you any parting advice or words of wisdom? Yeah, he just said tell it like it is. Really not told it like it. I was really frustrated with myself. We were talking about Keegan Bradley.

About Keegan Bradley, he's kind of right where he wants to be. But that was not right because he started with a four-shot lead and he was three shots back. You know, re-say that. But he's in a spot where he can still win. He didn't want to be there. He wanted to be ahead still. So when I missed, I said a word yesterday that needed an ED on the end.

And probably nobody heard it but me or probably everybody heard it, but didn't either the ED needed to be on that word. And that bothered me all night. So you're going to misspeak, as I said, that praise. Yeah, and it's, you know, you're calling it live for several hours, and you're reacting to things that you have no clue how they're going to play out, right? Like even, you know, we do a lot of, like, live radio around here, but we pretty much have a good idea of what we're going to talk about

and how to talk about it versus, you know, reacting live on the air to things that, again, are completely unpredictable is, I imagine that's just incredibly difficult. Well, it's really not for me yet, but they measured, you know, it's kind of unnerving, I suppose, and that you have no idea what's going to happen, but I also know how I want to set up the day after two days. and after three days. Thursday, Fridays are tough. Great Sunday finish. I know how to set up about the golf course, how difficult it was playing, but the fact that there were some good scores already shot, but it's a no-hick, a no-hook golf course. And the guys that fell off the board ended up hitting here in the water on 11 or in the water on 6, and they're out. And I love the mental side of golf because those guys that were chasing in the back of the pack, they're freewheeling right up until they get close to the lead. Now all of a sudden, the weight of what they're trying to do. becomes a reality. You go from a freewheeling, not really, I have a chance,

and inevitably, yesterday they got there, and then they all backed up. I like it. It's fun to do, but at the same time, you just really have no idea what you're going to say. So the players' championship, of course, moving from May back to March, what kind of differences can we expect from the golf course and just kind of the whole tournament being moved up a couple months? Pete Dye built that course with March in mind, because, you know, you get that March wind, and it can be a chilly wind.

Those last few holes are really terrifying, and you get a lot of crosswinds on that north wind, northwest wind. I called it TPC Jacksonville immediately into the principal's office. You can't say that. That's great. But, you know, it's all overseed. It's going to be so lush, you know, decided that overseed grass, that is the way to go. So green and lush looks better on TV, but it's not true Florida Bermuda grass anymore. Even down there in Honda, they've overseeded the rough, and it is beautiful.

But it's not Bermuda. Bermuda's gangly and wiry, and it's just – it flummox has got anybody that's not from this Bermuda grass, and they freak out. Well, they don't – because it's all this beautiful plush rye grass, and you get these – for me kind of disappointing Durow used to be plush, even though it's thick, not true Florida anymore. But I think to move to more people there at TPC, spring break and all that is a marquee event. And, you know, it's a little bit like Augusta to me in that there's so much familiarity at Augusta

with all the holes coming down the stretch. You see sawgrass. Those guys know what they face. I've been in the last group there a few times, and you can't get 17 out of your head. It's in there. It's in there the whole next morning while you wait to tee off in the last group, and it's in there when you tee off. You just got to have to keep telling yourself, I'm not there yet.

I'm not there. You have to be able to redirect battle of all battles because there's nothing you can do, but you've got to put it on that island green. And in March, if the wind's blowing, somebody, you might hit six or seven irons. Yeah, Island Green, you think it's a gimmick, or is it a great hole? It's beautiful. It seems gimmicky because it can play so easy. It shouldn't be more than a wedge or a nine iron ever unless you got the elements.

And in May, the elements never paid him a visit. but in March the elements could pay. They may get lucky and only have to deal with conditions in the practice. And that is a long, long walk from 16 green to 17T. And while you're walking, you are literally five or 10 feet group on Sunday. And they're all screaming at you. Man, I'm just telling you. It's like you're busting out onto a concert stage.

And now what makes, I think what makes 17 also great. On Sunday, everything feeds down in there, the one in the front. You're going to get hole in one. Don't think for one second that those players, I don't care who you are, even if you're tied to that T-box. I love it. You need those heart rate monitors that we always talk about. Yeah, we have been saying.

Why can't we have them? It's the best idea that we're still not doing, and I don't know why. Well, you'd think that somebody could use a satellite and just check their heart rate from above and pipe it into your cell phone the way things you're going this day and age. You know, he doesn't have on a hot rate monitor satellite. Imagine that guy's just standing over the ball on 17. You just see, too, too, too, too-to-to-to-do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d going crazy. He's so great.

So I'd be remiss if we didn't have you on talk a little bit about the 2008 Ryder Cup. You were, of course, the U.S. captain. It had been a pretty terrible run for the Americans. Kind of an unprecedented terrible run for the American squad leading up to that point. What were kind of your first thoughts on how to approach that job once you got it? An idea I wanted to implement the PGA of American. I'm like, well, they promised me I could have 2008. So I had to lobby for it.

And I lobbied for it with this of taking the large group of 12 and creating, and getting them to bond in a Navy SEALs video of how they take these large groups and break them into small groups, and these guys will do anything they can for each other. And that controllable is dreading the event. I mean, we lost by nine points in 2004, lost by nine points in 2006, had lost four of the previous five rider cups. You know, Europe has small groups naturally. The Englishmen play together, the Span.

They all play together. The Irishmen play together, and if they don't, maybe Darren Clark. They have an intangible over the world. They have language issues over there in the international squad. And the U.S. is the more bonded team now. Well, we do the Ryder Cup. You're going to realize you got no control. What I did, I think those guys were really, I think, at a point where they dread the Ryder Cup,

were just really fascinating. You know, green light, caution light, red light scenarios, and we tried to get all green lights together. What did you think of some of the fallout after the, this past Rider Cup with the team with Reed and Speeth and the pairings as a successful Rider Cup captain and someone who kind of built this model that Phil and all those have touted as so successful. What was your reaction to some of that fallout? But you got to say, hey, Lenton Thomas were friends since they were little kids.

They dreamed about playing a ride. I get that part. Splitting up Speeth and Reed. Speeth and Justin Thomas didn't seem like that big a deal to me. Reed together because they're probably to play with. I've paired with him before. right. I mean, maybe a misunderstanding. And I don't think Patrick Reed is, you know, giving him a whole lot of thought. He doesn't look much. Pat Spieth needs to do. And, you know, I feel for Jim Furek that the guys will move on. It's the key. There's no, you know, we're going to be more relaxed. You know, like we're just talking about Rory. I'm going to go out there and be the most relaxed guy and all that crap. That's just garbage, man. You know what this is all about. The only way you're going to beat anybody is if you out-prepare them, learn the course, knowing like the back of your hand, come up with a philosophy and a strategy. and then see what happens. Europe's got it.

They got it. Yeah, you mentioned it's a different pairing with Tiger and a Ryder Cup. What all changes? How different is it? How unique of an experience is that? You know, the guys that Tiger plays best with, that he's a real green light with, is somebody that he's significantly better. They've never seen Tiger laughing and relaxed as he was in that scenario.

It made a difference in the way you put Tiger with Phil Mickelson. It's like, you know, Phil's a threat to be given. Possibly if I played well, I could be a threat to his life. legacy. He knew I could play well. The only guys that stared Tiger down and beat him. He beat him in a major. Tiger used to be uncomfortable if you were comfortable with him. And he's different. I think he treated us. So that's just way, way different now. As big Tiger fans, what's our concern level with his next situation? I'm always concerned. You know, let's say Tiger stays healthy. How many years do you think he has He could win when he's in his 50s if he remains flexible and uninjured.

But anytime you get something in your neck, the low bat, a neck, it's going to wreck your swing. So, yeah, I think it's a career-threatening issue. We'll know tomorrow. Tigers can't. They're not bothering you. You can't play. Dizzy Dean, well, I don't remember him, but I heard the story. He heard his foot, and he tried to pitch with him.

Tigers got a bad back. It's fused. And now his neck's bugging him, and that, to me, his career. So I'll hold our breath here. Keep our fingers crossed. Yeah, you've got to hold your breath, man. We've all got to hold our breath because he's not going to tell you what's going on. That's true.

So we just hold our breath and see what happens. It's very true. Last question. We talked a bit, obviously, about the players' championship. It's players' championship week. As carnage guys, we all love to see the carnage. What type of conditions are you pulling for out there? I guess it sounds like a north win.

Is that what we need? To win, something like that, to blow about 15 or 20, you know, manageable. but I always like when the greens are like concrete. You're Lee Jansen one way back that you couldn't make a ballmark. It starts to get hot up there, and you've got to water the greens to keep them alive. And, you know, here they can just keep them bone dry and let Mother Nature water the greens, and then they got these rollers that they can make them really firm and crispy. I always like fast conditions.

When the golf course is overseeded, it starts to get hot. You have to keep it alive with water, and it makes things soft, and that's just not as much fun. for a viewer, I don't feel. So I'm looking for hard, fast conditions. Honda was unbelievably tough. Bay Hill with a Green's heart as a rock. This could be the third.

They'll get used to it. Well, you know, it's 320 in the air and watch it roll 60. Point B, I don't know. If ever there was a target golf course, a point A to point B course, it's this one. The way the fairways are built and shaped, you know, it does. There's no advantage to hitting it. The advantage is to put it in that area, and everybody will play from that.

The whole time you're there, and with all the water lurking and looming, I mean, I need a floater and a ball with a pop-up flag or something. Pretty fun to watch. And like I said, I had my chances there. Of what in your career, it was a 10-year exemption when I was trying to work. Well, the stress package players championship, it'll be an awesome weekend. It'll be a fun weekend. It always is.

And Paul Asinger will be Golf Channel Thursday, Friday, they've got the coverage, and then NBC all day, Saturday and Sunday. So check them out. Zinger, we appreciate the time, my friend. This was a lot of fun. You're on my phone. Barstool Sports, baby. We love that.

We love that. That's awesome. See you. That's good to hear. Thank you. We appreciate it. All right, bye. Hey, this is Casey Smith. Thank you for enjoying the Barstool Podcast Network.

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