Fore Play - PGA Championship Instant Reactions
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We're doing knee-jerk.
We're doing instant reactions.
It was phenomenal.
Major Championship golf is back.
Colin Morikawa took that tournament, grabbed it by the balls, and made it his at the end.
There are a million things to talk about.
I have probably the longest list of things to talk about that I've ever had.
had from the beginning of the week, really from Thursday on because we obviously put out
a show every Thursday. We have a ton to get to, but we're going to start really with today,
with this afternoon, this evening, whatever you want to call it, was primetime golf. Again, it just
wrapped up within the last hour. And it feels like an hour and 15 minutes ago, there were 15
people that could have won the PGA championship and could have won the first major championship
in 13 months. And Kyle and Moore, Kyle went out there and grabbed it. Uh,
Again, there's a lot to break down, but, you know, my first reaction is like I need to go outside and get a fucking breath of fresh air and just chill out because that was intense.
It was an action-packed day.
And what I want to say right off the bat here is that I have been saying that I want to be Colin Morcawa.
I am jealous that he's Colin Morcao and that I'm not.
And this just drives that home.
If you go back on this podcast, I say after he won, probably the work day after he beat JT in a playoff, I was like, this kid, he's just,
Got it.
And that's no surprise to anyone.
He's a stud.
He's going to win going forward.
And the bottom line is I'm just jealous that he's Colin Warwick Cowell and I'm Trent on this
golf podcast.
He's just a fucking stud.
And the drive on fucking, I can't even, it just happened.
What hole is that?
16.
16.
The drive on 16 was crazy.
One of the greatest shots I've ever seen.
It was just a really fun day of primetime golf.
And I just, you know, I'm trying to catch my breath like you said, Riggs.
Yeah, it was awesome to watch.
At one point, I even tweeted out, like, the whole world was at minus 10.
Like, every single golfer in the world, even if you were an amateur, if you were at your local golf club, like, you were 10 under at the PGA Championship.
It felt like at any moment, any time that they showed a new frame or a new golfer, that guy could be overtaking the lead.
And then Morikawa just drops his nuts on the entire world, takes in his first major.
The guy is, what, 22 years old?
Is that how old he is?
23 years old.
He's a fucking stud.
He's good looking.
He's got everything going for.
He came on this podcast, so you know that he gets it.
Great, huge smile.
And, you know, even more important than winning a PJ championship and talking about all this stuff,
I just want to bring up the fact that it's hard to not bring this up.
I'm sorry that I have to do this.
But Thursday is my birthday, and I know we usually like to talk about birthday weeks.
So I wanted to learn everyone that we are now entering into a birthday week.
I'm not a huge birthday guy, but I know that people like to ask me when my birthday is and stuff like that.
So if you wanted to set a reminder.
Did you just try to, did you just hijack Collinmore Collar's first major championship victory with your birthdays in like five days?
I said it's not more important or, you know, it's not, it's just something that I had to get off at the top of the show.
I know listeners will be listening to.
Who cares about your birthday?
I mean, it's not.
I thought you were going to tie it in somehow that like your birthday is coming up and that ties into the tournament somehow.
But you just interrupted your own talk.
about the PJ Championship and we're like by the way my birthday's on Thursday well it's just an
alert came up at 930 we're filming it or this is 934 you know I don't I don't want things like that to go
or I can't or we are we supposed to say anything are we supposed to say happy birthday no not a bit no not yet
no I'm not that kind of guy I just like to let everyone know what's going on and why wouldn't you
wait until Wednesday's show where you could been like hey when you're listening to this it's my
birthday now there's no say it's awkward no there's no say I won't do that
I just want to let people.
Are we supposed to prepare?
Like, are we supposed to be getting ready?
Maybe you want to guys,
like, get me something?
I don't know.
You need a couple days in advance.
Like, but back to the golf,
Morikawa,
unreal.
I wasn't a bit,
like,
I don't know where I fall on his celebration yet.
And I know that we'll get to everything
that has to do the PGA championship.
I know he had people on the golf course
at the end and we're going to get it to all this.
But like,
I guess it's just COVID and the whole scenario,
but like when I was just watching
and it just ended minutes ago,
it looked as though he was waiting for his mom to pick him up at the local golf club.
He was sitting there with his girlfriend on the ledge of like some sort of fountain outside the clubhouse.
And he's just waiting to get picked up from his major championship victory.
Not like a crazy celebration at all.
So very weird, but also like very tiger-esque where it's like,
I'm just going to like dominate the rest of the world for however many years
because this is, I'm supposed to be here.
Yeah, right.
It wasn't, it did seem like it wasn't a.
surprised to him. Cala Morcawa was not
done. He wasn't even necessarily
in a state of jubilation that he won. It was more, yeah, I'm supposed
to have won, of course. And they talk a lot about he's the most
polished of that crew. He said himself that he's the most mature
of that crew of Hovland, Wolf, and himself. We have seen now
on multiple occasions that Matt Wolfe is indeed very immature. And that's not
a negative on him. He's 21 years old and that he kind of rambled
on and he sounds young and then you get Kaan Morcawa, who he plays like a, you know, 30-year-old
Tiger Woods did when he was very methodical and machine-like and clinical and picked
tournaments apart, kind of, you know, threw a dagger in everybody at the last second when
he really needed to and won golf tournaments kind of, and you looked afterwards like, oh yeah,
of course he was going to win that tournament. And that's sort of the attitude that Morikawa had.
So that combined with the no fans, it was a little bit, like there wasn't a big moment.
But then again, the tournament was over when he kind of putted out on 17, it felt like her.
When his T shot didn't go in the hazard on the left on 18, it was the tournament was over.
So after all of the buildup, after all of the fact that there were legitimately 15 people on Sunday that could have won the PGA championship.
And then it didn't come down to a put.
it didn't come down to a chip. It was sort of just unceremoniously over. It was a bit weird.
And again, you combine that with no fans. And it was unlike anything I've ever seen before.
But I will say throughout kind of the middle part of the round in the back nine when it was tight and there were a bunch of guys tied at 10 under.
I didn't really care or notice at all that there weren't fan.
Yeah, no. There was actually, so you've been there. You were there all week and weekend.
And you weren't there today, right? You were flying back.
in Boston right now? Yeah, took a red eye
last night. I'm in Boston. We got a Barstall
Classic tomorrow. So there were people like
screaming from outside the golf course
today. It was crazy and like Faldo loved
every second. I mean, they were going, they loved
talking about the fans outside the ropes
and the fences. They loved saying that line day
in and a minute in and minute out.
Like there's the fans outside the ropes again. Like they were
just going crazy. Was that
there all week or no? Was that just like today?
I kind of only noticed that today.
So there's the main sort of
road that goes around Harding Park and that area has these fences that you can clearly just see it's a
immunity. I mean, you can just see the golf course, but they had put up sort of that dark green,
you know, banner, blockade, whatever you want to call it on the fence so that you couldn't just stand
there and see it. And they did that obviously to deter people from crowding and gathering and watching
the tournament that way. But as the week went on, people started to figure it out and poke a little
little hole and then the next day you come back and it used to be one guy. It looked like he had a little
fishing hole like he's fishing. Now he's got a whole pond and like five people with him. And I think by
Saturday and Sunday there were a bunch of people lining some of the T shots. And it was funny because
Tiger would tee off on Saturday when I was there. You didn't really notice because you couldn't see out
really except these little holes and we weren't looking for. Like if you're inside the event, you're
watching Tiger, you're looking at the camera guy, you're watching the play, whatever. And then
you'd be dead silent you wouldn't think that there's fans there tiger would tee off and you'd hear
you're the man tiger and people kind of go nuts so i think it kind of grew through around
weekend but it wasn't for tom was a legitimate gallery it was probably like 50 people total
or something so it wasn't a huge deal yet people kind of figured something out um we got a lot more
to get to like i said uh owens that's something you should be getting to i saw a ton of people
to being at us this weekend about them getting involved, them dabbling in a little Owens mixers.
You're welcome.
I saw one guy had, I think the drink of their wedding was the Barstall transfusion by
That was crazy down.
Hold on.
I got to pull their like Instagram handle up because they need it.
We got to give them a legitimate shout out.
So pull that up, Frankie.
They had more Barstall transfusion than I knew we even produced or created.
Chaz Skidmore.
He's only got three photos on Instagram and one.
of them is his wedding in which they made a pyramid of Owens Mixers transfusion bottles and cases.
And they got married at Lake Waka Ma in North Carolina.
And they said, take one married at the lake, has a nice ring to it, never in the original
plan.
Thanks, blah, blah, blah, blah, and thanks to the Owens transfusion by Barst's Sports.
Is this more important than the wedding pictures, free merch?
I think we've got to send him something, right?
Yes.
T-shirts, we'll get him.
We'll get him a nice care package.
Owens Mixers wrote, wow, congrats to you in all.
Capital letters.
What an amazing way to celebrate.
Oh, his mixers is pumped.
The beauty of the transfusion, I have noticed, you know, now that more people are getting
and it's in more stores, you don't necessarily have to order online, you can go pick it up,
is the people that don't know about the drink and have never had it because previously prior,
it is a country club drink.
That's become more mainstream.
Part of that was us.
part of it was just, I mean, if you have a really delicious cocktail, people are going to find out
about it and start drinking it. So we're getting a lot of people that are first-time
triers of the transfusion in general, and they're like, this is my cocktail, especially in the
summertime when it's hot, because that puppy is refreshing. It's just delivering for people in a way
that they didn't even know they needed it delivered. And a cocktail they didn't know they wanted
is now their favorite cocktails. I played golf a couple days ago, and I was at like what now feels
like my home club Rockville Links and it was the first time I'd played there on the weekend and
a lot of stoolies like around the clubhouse and they're all chirping me and we can get into that
later but like they forced me to pull a wedge on 18 when I was in a match like I was going to putt it
and they're all booing me like 20 to 30 people just booing me when I had a putter even though I
definitely did and I ended up hitting a perfect fucking wedge out right next to the whole up and down
it was crazy I just I always deliver in certain situations like I guess right any footage of that
yeah no footage though like every time I can
camera comes out, I played one across the fucking greens.
But anyway, I'm driving away and I had some Owens Mixers
transfusions bottles, and you heard a couple guys like, whoa, what do you
got there? And I was literally in the cart driving back towards
my, like, towards like my buddy's car. And I'm throwing them out, like,
I'm the crackerjack guy essentially, like each table.
Like, I'm a crackerjack and popcorn guy at a baseball game.
I was like, Owen's Mixers here, and they're catching them and they're pouring
them in their glasses. So yeah, they had a, it is, you could tell that there's a lot
the hype around it and then when they actually drink it it's like oh shit it's actually a good drink
it's not just like a bar still thing that like even my dad was like oh let me try this shit and like now he can't
stop drinking it like you think it's maybe just like a thing that we put our name on but it's it's
actually a really good drink it's fucking delicious the reviews are overwhelmingly positive so give
it a try owensmixtures.com you can check out the store locator if you don't want to do the shipping
and all that method you can just go find it in the store near you buy it bring it home try it
pour it in with some vodka and boom, you're good to go.
Or you can go to store.orgasport.com.
You go to Owensmixtures.com.
They'll deliver it right to your doorstep.
Okay.
Morikawa, we got more to get to on him.
So, you know, this back nine, like we said,
there's a thousand guys tied at 10 under par,
and big names and big hitters and guys that are playing well.
Fiena started making cuts.
He looked like he could win.
Bryson on the front started birdie, birdie,
and then he stalled a little bit, but was still right there.
There were just a ton of names.
Morikawa chips in on 14, makes a nice par on 15.
He actually had a pretty good birdie look, and then steps up on 16.
Now there's a lot of comparisons being made to the 14th T shot at the Workday,
which is the Memorial when I think it was like 311, something around that yardage.
He steps up with the driver.
J.T. had laid up.
Other people were laying up.
He steps up with the driver, hits it to like 10, 15 feet, and it looked like he was going
to win the tournament there, ended up having to go the distance with JT.
came out the winner of that after they both made back-to-back bombs.
But it was clearly in his bag.
It was in his arsenal that Colin Warcow was so goddamn cocky and confident with his driver
that you can say where there's 300 yards, there's trouble up there.
You can't really miss in certain spots.
And he's going to step up, thread the needle, and hit that fucking thing more accurately
than we've ever hit wedges in our lives.
And here he comes to the 16th at the PGA championship with, you know, his first major.
He's looking to become, I believe, the third.
third youngest person in golf history to win the PGA championship.
He's in a league now with Rory and Jack Nicholas.
He booted Tiger because Tiger didn't win until 1999 after, by the way,
he decided to change his entire swing.
That's why he took a couple of years.
Anyway, he steps up on a 16th tee, 294 yards,
and hits a fucking driver to seven feet and makes Eagle.
After having a one-stroke leap from chipping in,
that is going to be a T-shot that will be replayed.
It reminds me, remember when Brandel was on this show a year ago,
trying to claim that Dustin Johnson T-shot at this fucking ceremonial champions,
dolphins jumping in the fucking background event in Hawaii was the greatest shot in the history of golf?
This, my man, this my man, has significantly more merit than that
because he, with everyone, with a bunch of big names all over the fucking map at TBC Harding Park,
the fogs all over the place, the wind starting to pick up,
He steps up and hits a driver from 294 to 7 feet.
That's impossible.
Right, yeah, I've seen a lot of comparisons between that, like you said, Riggs and the 14th full at workday.
The small detail, the small difference between those things is one was the workday and the other
was the PGA championship where there were 1,000 people at 10 under.
I'm pretty sure Morcawa and maybe Casey at that point, we're 11 under.
But he's got a title wave of guys behind him who are ready to win a major and he still
decides to pull driver and put it to seven feet. Like, that's a shot that I don't even think I've
wrapped my brain around yet. The tournament just finished off, but like, ask me a week from now,
and I still don't think my brain can wrap itself around it, because that is such a ridiculous
shot and takes such big balls. So for Morikawa to do that, like, it just solidifies his star in the
making, or now he's just a star on the PGA tour. Yeah, and it proves to me, right, that he, you know,
we all know he can hit that shot, maybe Monday, maybe Tuesday.
But for him to step up there under those circumstances, being as young as he is,
being in that position for the first time, he hasn't even played.
I think, what, the Masters?
He's never even played, I think, in the matter.
One of the majors, he hasn't even played it yet.
He's never even played in the fucking tournament.
So he's that young.
He's that inexperienced.
He's going up against all these names.
D.K.'s got 20, what, 22 PGA tour wins.
There's all these.
Brooks Kepka has four majors, even though he fell off today.
We'll get into that.
He steps up and really.
that little cut, right? The flag stick, it lands perfectly dribbles up there. It was incredible. And then
after that he finished it off strong. He's because, you know, now he converts that putt, which is also not,
I mean, seven footer is not a gimmie. That's pretty damn close to the 50-50 range on the PGA door. He steps up
and converts that. And then on 17, you know, you can tell at that point, the wind's howling off
the left. They put like a front left pin, middle left pin, and he hits one pin high, lags it up there
tight. And then that dry, I mean, we saw guys, we saw Phil today had to go back to the T because he fucking
didn't get one over. Like that T shot is no joke. We saw guys flaring it way right,
you know, kind of to the right of those bunkers because it's safe. He steps up and
pipes one on 18, gets one right at the flagstick on 18 and two putts to basically
lock the damn thing up. So it was as ballsy and as confidently as you can wrap up your
first major championship. It was so goddamn impressive. I can't, like I can't get over.
I also had in top five to win, which feels good. And we also talked about Morikawa.
Well, actually, I may have brought him up on the last podcast where I said he went to Berkeley,
which is right there 20 minutes away from Harding Park.
And you find out when watching the coverage that he played a lot there,
practice there, had a ton of tournaments at Harding Park when he was playing at Berkeley.
So, I mean, you thought that he had momentum going into it because he's played so well,
especially since being on our podcast.
And you just had to, he was just that name where it's like,
all right, if you're making your bets, it's surprising he was 3,000 plus 3,000 going into the week.
because when you look at him, he had the momentum.
He's fucking playing on fire.
And the guy's got stones.
He's got absolute stones to be able to rip that driver onto that green on 16.
Absolute fucking huge testicles.
He also, since coming on our show, he lost in a playoff where he missed a three-footer on the second playoff hole.
He then won by taking down Justin Thomas in one of the better finishes of the year.
And then a couple weeks later, he wins his first major championship.
That's since coming on a fucking show.
So, you know, we've tried to push this narrative, by the way, that we're like great luck
in that there's a for-play podcast, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
But I think we might actually have something here because he came on, we restarted the tour,
and he just lights out.
So Morcao.
We talk to then wins the next PGA championship.
Victor Hovlin and Matthew Wolf better get in line, better get on the show.
Right, because we talked to Brooks Kepka prior to the PGA, and he won the PGA.
And we talked to Markawa somewhat prior to the PGA, and he won the GAA.
and he won the PGA.
So let's, I mean, whoever's in that time slot for next year,
like that week before the PGA championship,
we should sell that thing for hundreds of thousands of dollars
because whoever's on that has the best chance to win the PGA championship.
Wow.
Save this.
Whoever has a better brain than me on this,
it's probably our producers, save this footage and this audio,
and let's make sure that we replay it next year
right before the PGA championship,
and whoever's on that show will win.
I had forgotten about Brooks last year.
That's an amazing point.
We're two for two.
So, yeah, let's save that, get it going.
He did drop the lid off the Wanamaker just now.
That was a few minutes ago.
I really didn't, I rewatched it, but I really didn't think it was his fault.
I mean, when you win, you grab that fucker like it's a Stanley Cup.
Like, I mean, you're just grabbing it.
You're hoisting it.
The lid pops off.
Like, you've never held it before.
How the fuck are you supposed to style type of it is?
It's hard that it's like, what, like a hundred and two-year-old trophy or something, like something crazy, right?
Like a PGA's been around for 100 years.
So, yeah, this is the 100 second, I believe.
So, like, not many people do what he did.
So it's got to be kind of his fault.
Like, I don't think I bet.
No.
No, if you go back and watch other guys pick up the Wanamaker,
they do the same thing he did.
It falls off?
How many people?
No, no, what I'm saying is they do the same move he did
when they pick it up.
And they're like, holy fuck, I just won this giant trophy.
And the lid doesn't come off.
I think Riggs tweeted it, and I agree with that where you've got to tighten that lid.
Somebody's got to tighten that lid.
Remember when we were at the U.S. Open and they brought over the fucking U.S. Open
trophy, which doesn't have a name still, right?
It's like the dumbest thing.
It's just the U.S. Open trophy, which is such an embarrassment to the game of golf.
But what we were at Barcelona Radio at Pebble Beach and they brought it over.
And I was like tinkering around with it, not wearing gloves, which they were like going crazy about.
I'm like, well, if Monsch put a name on this thing, so we want to talk about prestige and like, I can't fucking touch the thing.
And then we like popped the lid off that thing and we couldn't get it back on.
It wouldn't nicely sit.
It wouldn't, like, sit in there.
So, like, whoever, like, you know, like, Gary Woodland could be walking around the city
and in Times Square with that thing.
It just tops up because we were fucking idiots messing around.
I wonder if that happened with the PGA.
Like, someone, like, went to go clean it and, like, lift it up the top.
And, like, is a Frankie Brelly in the background just fucking up Kalamore Kauer's moment.
Look, that trophy's too, too famous, too important.
Somebody get in there, get a trophy guy, and you got to tighten that fucking lid.
So, I mean, you can't have that.
And that can't be on Calamorcau.
He grabbed it, he hoisted it, and the lid just goes flying.
Thank God for our friend Seth Watt.
He was there to save the death.
Golden Brown cookies sitting there looking like a trillion dollars.
His hair was falling on both sides.
Show me a man whose hair falls in front of their face on both sides of their head
when they bend down and grab a trophy.
That guy's just got so much swag.
He's got so much class.
He drips money.
And he's out there and he picked up that want to make a trophy.
And that smile, like he eased Calamorcau.
but Calmore Cowell wanted to jump into that lake.
And like he, or is it a lake over there?
What is that over there?
Yeah, Lake Merced.
Lake Merced.
He wanted to jump into that thing because he, I mean, at that moment, you're like,
I just, I'm a meme now.
Like, I just fucked up big time.
And you look at that fucking guy, Sethwa, and you see his face and that smile.
You're like, oh, man, I'm fine.
Like, I'm fine.
Seth, Seth, smile and at me.
I just won the PJ Championship.
Man, I love that guy, Seth.
I thought they did a good job, too.
They played the replay of it back to him during the,
the ceremony so that he could kind of get over the moment, which I thought was a great move.
Because otherwise, he's like, oh, fuck, that's all anybody's talking about.
Once you talk about it, then you're kind of over it.
So that happened.
It was, I think, you just got to tighten the fucking lid so that doesn't happen next year.
Big kudos to Kowlmorekawa.
We're going to get him back on the show.
That was amazing.
There's a lot more to get to.
We mentioned Brooks Kepka.
I think he's who we have to get to next.
Brooks Kepka had an amazing week in a lot of ways.
in a lot of ways that we, if you look back a couple years ago,
would have never guessed possible.
If you recall, when he won at Aaron Hills,
which a great spot, Trent Hills,
we were all rooting against him.
He was boring as fuck.
He was running away with it.
He was shooting way under a party.
He was so much we didn't like.
And then even a year later,
when he won again at Shinnock,
we were all kind of rooting against him.
We're like, this guy's fucking boring.
There were other storylines.
And then he had his whole, you know,
breakout in terms of,
a personality moment where he said, I feel like I've finally earned the right to start talking.
And so what happened this week with Brooks Kepka, where his playing actually didn't do the
talking, his fucking mouth did all the talking. And that's what he made a lot of the headlines that
we're going to talk about for is something that, again, we would have never guessed a couple
years ago. But it is now driving storylines in golf maybe as much as Bryson and Hall of his antics
are he's trolling Bryson.
He started trolling DJ.
He started trying to play mind games on Saturday night with all of the guys in the top,
you know, tied within three or four shots of the lead by saying,
I don't even know who those guys are.
I'm not sure if those guys have won majors.
DJ's only one.
One was his big line.
So Brooks kept Kavkin followed that up by shooting at 74.
He was only one of like a couple players that shot that bad of a number on Sunday,
which is stunning.
They just didn't show him on TV today.
Like you went into it thinking we are going to get full Brooks coverage because he's going for three in a row.
He's earned all the TV coverage he's going to get on this PJ Championship Sunday.
And I think they showed his T shot on the first hole and then he just disappeared because he played like shit all day long.
He played terrible.
Yeah, I saw he hit like eight or nine fairways.
He was actually driving it well as I on the second hole.
You know, the first hole he hits it way he left.
He ends up like he's not going to make birdie.
It's kind of a birdie hole.
Second way, it's down the middle of the fairway.
And then he hooked a six iron into the fucking trees.
And they didn't show them basically, like you said, the rest of the time, which, you know, I want to say, I loved everything that Brooks Kepka did this week.
We talk way, we talk a lot in golf about how everybody being buddy buddy.
And people talk about this and other sports too.
People bitch now about how in basketball, like all the guys are boys, whereas back in the day there used to be true, genuine bad blood.
And in golf, we talk about how, I mean, even Fowdo.
Fowldo used to be considered a dickhead on top.
He was this quiet, selfish guy who lived in his own world and was kind of a machine and won six major championships.
And now you get, you know, we get Ricky always waiting after and there's a bunch of memes about Ricky waiting to like shake the guy's hand that actually wins the tournament and how JT and speed are best friends and everybody's buddy, buddy.
And here you have Brooks Kepka, who the night before is out there legitimately firing shots trying to rattle other guys' cages knowing and he wants to reiterate in their brains.
have four of these fucking things and you guys don't. And I know now everybody's piling on Brooks,
like that's karma. That's what you get for being such a douchebag. But he did the same fucking
shit last year and backed it up and won. He came out on our show and on other shows a weeks leading
up to the PGA and said these are actually easy to win because half the field can't fucking do it
physically than have the talent. And then half of that field literally can't handle it because
they're cowards and they can't handle it down the stretch of a major championship. And he went out and
proved it. So I know everyone's going to pile on Brooks right now, but I think we need more of
everything that he did this week. He started out trolling Bryson. He finished it playing like shit,
but on Saturday by trolling DJ and trolling other guys at the top of the leaderboard, I think
everything Brooks did this week was great, except obviously he just didn't play very well on Sunday.
I'm a big fan of him trolling Bryson. I think that's great. Every time they put a mic or a camera in front
of his face, he's saying, oh, you don't need all that science and all that number stuff. You just go out there
and play or when they ask all the PJ tour players,
what do you eat for breakfast?
He's like 800 strips of bacon and 40 protein shakes.
Like he just gives it to Bryson nonstop.
The DJ trolling, that one felt like a little darker to me.
Like I don't know where that came from.
Like the Bryson stuff has become a storyline to the point where,
I mean,
I feel like Bryson almost has to fight Brooks the next time he sees him
because he's just absolutely killing him.
But the DJ stuff, I thought they were boys.
Like the fact that he went on to play.
He does have to fight.
Like, you just have, you have to fight him.
You have to punch him.
You have to fight him at this point.
You're getting dragged online and on live television now every single time.
It's like in hockey when, like, their meathead buries your best player from behind and you're the guy standing next to him.
It's like, you have to fight him.
You have to have a choice.
You have to fight him.
Yeah, like, if you go back and listen to, like, mic'd up hockey players, they'll be, like, they'll be waiting for the next face off and they'll, like, line up next each other and they'll be, we got to go.
And like he'll be like, all right, like, let's do this.
Like, the guy doesn't want to.
He's like, you know we have to go, right?
He's like, yep.
And then they blow the whistle and they're just fucking going.
Like, that's what, Bryce and has to walk up.
They'd be like, man, like, I have to, I have to hit you.
Like, you're being fucking mean now.
Like, I have to punch you because this is what I have to do.
These are just the rules.
You're being too mean.
The DJ stuff, though, was interesting because we also got in this weird space where
when somebody says something and you watch
them say it on video and audio, it is different than when you read it. When you read something,
there seems to be more venom attached because you can't see what emotion they're giving off.
So when I first saw Brooks's quote about, oh, DG's only one-one, I thought maybe they caught him
in a moment where they were just asking him about the top of the leaderboard and he said that
just sort of accidentally, which it does look like that if you watch the video. But then he doubled
down on it in his next interview and was like, well, if you look like somebody asked him,
is it harder to win your second one than your first one? And then he said,
something to the effect of, well, if you look at the top of the leaderboard, that's clearly
true, clearly talking about Dustin Johnson, and that's when I knew something's fucked up here.
Like, in the past, if you would ask people about the Brooks and Dustin Johnson's relationship,
you'd just say that they're boys.
They're a couple long hitters.
They've practiced together.
They play practice rounds together.
I don't know if they've gone on vacations together.
I think that they have.
Like neighbors, right?
Someone tweeted out that they, like, they're on like their boat all the fucking time.
Yeah.
They were, you would think they were close.
And maybe they are, and this was Brooks, like, you know.
Sted Riggs, just trying to play mind games with DJ, but it just felt a little
weirder to me, the whole thing.
I think Brooks is going with this whole troll system and the whole troll, like, that's his
new brand, and I think that he saw an opportunity to hit Dustin.
I think they probably are super close.
I actually took this as like a buddy being like you can't finish.
Like you, you know what I mean?
Like I think like they go back to their text messages and they're like, oh, I fucking
buried you just there on CVS.
You know what I mean?
Like I think Dustin Johnson and Brooks are at that.
level. Meanwhile, like, Bryson is the nerdier. Like, I don't think you do that with Bryson. Like,
you don't be like, yo, man, I just had a fucking, I just had an interview with Amanda Ballionis,
and I absolutely just dominated you in that interview. Like, you're done. Like, I, like, wait until you
watch this fucking clip. I think they do that with each other. And I don't think they do, like,
you can't do that with, like, Paul Casey. And you can't do that with, like, Jim Furrit.
But I think DJ and Brooks are probably on that level where they, like, just go back at each other.
I think in the next weeks or so when they do see each other around town or they have to go out and
hang out with all their hot girlfriends and have beers or whatever,
then they talk and laugh about that.
But I think, like, last night, which is Saturday night,
and, like, there's nothing exchanged.
Really?
Yeah, I think Brooks does that,
genuinely does that as a competitive advantage.
Yeah.
Wow.
I think that's what he's looking for.
I think he is out there to say, like, you know,
a little bit of what Tiger used.
Tiger used to try to use intimidation factor.
I mean, we laugh about him in the final round of the Masters.
And he was standing just in front of guys.
thing up.
Tyler wasn't friends with us.
He wasn't on people's boats.
But that's my point is that I think Brooks is trying to separate his friendships from people
with he wants to destroy people and win more majors than they do.
I think,
like I think he's trying to come up with ways to motivate himself and motivate others to realize
that inside the rogues,
he's not their boy.
Like I think he's,
you know what I mean?
I don't,
I don't think they're busting balls sat right now.
I think they're in their own fucking teams with their own crew.
and they're focused on their own thing.
And I don't think they say a word to each other until, like, next week.
I want to believe that.
But then you also hear, like, some of these guys, they go to fucking tournaments and majors
and they room with each other.
And they, like, and they buy houses and they all stay in the same places, right?
Like, I want to think that there's that type of bad blood, but, like, I don't know.
I just feel like the closer we get with these guys and see the inside of the ropes
and see, like, the interactions between people.
And, like, you learn about, like, Justin Thomas's relationship with guys like
speed and fucking, even, like, when they're Mike.
up like we're going to talk about when speed uh when um when um joseph said that speed like apologized
for not giving me any momentum because he played like shit like i just think these guys are on such
they've already made it i feel like they're just they're in another world than us but i think
it's them against us you're looping in the j t speed crew with like brooks keppka and dj like
even more so they're they're they're more dudes even more so no i i i think i think i think keppka's more of like a killer
I think he's an isolated killer at all.
I don't see killer at all.
I tend to agree with Riggs because when I saw those quotes and I read them,
it felt like it had more of an edge to it.
It didn't feel like it had the,
it just didn't feel like they were going to text each other afterwards being like,
oh, that was what a trip you gave me.
Saying someone can't finish in majors and DJ clearly cannot
because he's had a bunch of 54-hole leads now with majors that he can't close on,
like that hits him in the soul.
That doesn't, that's not like, that's not a busse of dolls.
That hits him in the soul.
And I know we're going to get to Roy's comments where if you're basically said,
Brooks is trying to play mind games with a guy who,
and now we're in this other situation where people try to tap dance around,
whether DJ's smart or what he's going on, got going on upstairs.
Brooks's comments about DJ had a little bit of an edge to me.
That's the way I felt.
Yeah, I thought so too.
And, I mean, we'll never, we'll probably never know.
but look like Brooks I do like does this with everyone and he does it right like he goes after brando
chambly to like troll him and hurt him he goes after bryson to troll him and hurt him I don't think
that he then would just be like going after uh DJ the night before a major when like Trent said like
that's equivalent to him being like I fucked his girlfriend last like that's like going
deep and dark to his like worst place like DJ's worst place is that he can't he hasn't
closed enough majors despite the fact that he's 122 tournament
And even the way that Rory responded today, which Rory's comments reacting to that entire thing, where I certainly wouldn't say it, it's different.
Someone who has 21 PGA tour wins, which is three times more that Brooks has, like deserves the respect.
And so I think that Rory clearly took it as it was too far.
And Rory took his own shot at Brooks.
So now you've got all three of these fucking guys taking shots at each other.
It just doesn't feel playful.
It feels serious on the level of three guys that are in the top five in the world.
Speaking about Rory, there's like a ton of chatter now.
And I feel like 2014 in the year 2014 is being brought up now more than ever.
And I think it's just because the years are going on and on and on.
But the fact that Rory McElroyd hasn't won a major since 2014 is absolutely
fucking mind boggling.
That is, aside from Paul Casey playing 64 majors,
and I think he has the most active majors on tour.
That is the most mind-boggling step
because you think of a million other fuck it.
Was he the most active in that tournament or on tour?
Most active without winning.
Without winning, okay.
Okay, right, right.
But in that tournament or just like in the world, like on tour?
He's the most active.
So he's the guy still playing on tour
and trying to win majors that hasn't won one
that hasn't played the most.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
It's crazy stat.
He had more than Lee Westwood since, like, 2002, I think was that's, that was stunning.
Which is crazy to me, because Lee West was just such an older name and just like,
you just think that he's in the hundreds.
Yeah, I think, I think the graphic, maybe the graphic said, like, since 2002 or something.
So there's no way he has more than, than Lee Westwood total.
So maybe it was like just since Paul Casey's come out on tour.
I don't know, but that graphic they put up, that was 60 fucking major.
It clearly, like, broke my brain.
Frank doesn't know where he's at right now.
I don't.
Because I have Rory takes,
but the fucking Paul Casey thing really has me questioning life.
Like,
I just don't.
I forgot Paul Casey existed.
And the fact that he,
like,
the fact that he's still playing golf
and he's still fucking joining these fucking tournaments
and won't win,
and he fucking keeps making,
like,
he's still in there,
he's still at the PGA championship,
he's still at the Masters,
he's still at the open,
and he's just not winning.
64 is insane.
But anyway,
Rory McElroy is going to end up
getting fucking 64 straight majors
without a win because this guy's gone
fucking six years.
Now, when you start talking about that,
like, is Rory, so Rory
still wins, though.
He won the players.
So that, like, that stops,
win the players, right?
He's won two FedEx Cups, too.
Yeah, so he's won,
since 2014, Rory Macquarie,
so when he won the PGA championship
in 2014, he won the PGA,
then he won the WGC Cadillac
match play, the Wells Fargo Championship,
the Deutsche Bank Championship, the Tour championship,
the Arnold Palmer, the players,
the RBC Canadian, the Tour Championship, and then the WGC champions again.
So it's like he's constantly winning tournaments.
Some of them major, like big, huge tournaments.
Yeah.
But like, does that stop people from talking about him just not being able?
Like, he doesn't just not win majors.
He's like horrible now and then.
Well, he also, he can't get it going.
He can't start majors.
Like he, he's notoriously now awful on Thursdays of major championships.
And last, this past week, and he obviously played with Tiger and with J.T.
And he's the best driver of golf ball in the world.
And on 9T, which the ninth hole was playing, I think it played the hardest hole the entire week.
And Rory stood up there.
I think he had the honor.
And he stood up there and hit, and this is one of them where I was standing right next to those guys in the T.
And Rory hits his T shot and it goes way right, like into the right rough, maybe the right bunker.
He just comes walking back with his caddy, he just puts his driver in his bag.
And he just goes, I wish I could hit a fucking fair.
way. And it was so, you know, he's like, he wants it, right? And he's putting this pressure on himself.
And we always talk about it at the Masters because he blew that lead in 2011. Is that when that was?
He blew the lead in 2011. And it's the one that he needs to complete the Grand Slam. And he's had his chances.
He was in the climate group of Patrick Reed when he was kind of chirping Patrick Reed. And he was trying to pull the Brooks Kefka's saying, you know, he's the one with all the pressure.
But it's more than just the Masters. It's all majors. I mean, he made the,
fucking eight to begin the British Open last year in his home, you know, so he, he clearly has
a problem going on at major championships. And I think that the media, us included, love Rory
so much. And he's such a good guy. And he's so candid and honest and great for the game that people
don't like give him as much shit as he probably deserves for being, you know, one of the top two or
three players in the world consistently. A lot of that time, number one for the last six years.
Yeah, not winning any major championships.
amazing.
Yeah, I think
what you said is right.
The media loves him,
ourselves included,
and he was one of those tournaments
that Frankie rattled off,
and he was number one for a long,
like he's doing enough where
it's not like he fell off the,
he didn't fall through earth.
Like he didn't stop winning.
Right, exactly.
And speak you can see
is getting a ton of shit now.
But like,
Rory does enough,
he gives enough good quotes,
he wins enough tournaments,
he's number one player
in the world
for a long enough time where people don't seem as concerned that he hasn't won a major
since 2014, but it definitely has to be a concern of Rory McElroy's because he's just like,
I was, I won four in such a short period of time, and now I haven't won any, like, what the
fuck is going on with you?
Yeah, and Roy's a pretty deep guy, is a comprehensive guy.
He takes a wholesome approach to the entire game.
He's zen-like, he's reading books.
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Rory finished 200 for the week, and that feels like about as bad.
I don't know.
It feels better.
actually than it seemed. He was frustrated. Anytime he started to get something going,
then he made a triple at one point. He was just sort of all over the fucking place and never got
into much of a groove. So it continues to be one of those storylines. I'm sure he'll be a
favorite going into Wingfoot. I'm sure he'll probably win between now and Wingfoot for the U.S.
Open in about a month, a little over a month. And we'll revisit this conversation about how crazy
it is as he hasn't won since 2014. Going back to his comments on Brooks, just very quickly,
you know that Rory thought they went a little too far
because Rory doesn't say anything about anything.
I know that he was asked about Brooks' comments about D.J.,
but for him to take that little shot about DJ having three times as many wins as Brooks,
like Rory's all about respect and he respects the game and he respects anyone who plays it
and anyone who plays it really well or at a high level.
So for him to be like, yeah, Brooks is talking shit to a guy who has three times as many PJ's
tour wins is him. That's how you know Roy was like, this is, I'm not okay with any of this.
He's sort of like, he's like the governing body. I view him as the normal governing body of golf,
and he's like looking at Brooks being like, what the fuck you're doing, dude?
Yeah, I agree. I think he's kind of the, some people try to be the voice of reason or the voice
of authority in terms of representing the players. And Rory actually has that. He earned the
respect of his players. He's in the respect to the media of his peers of the fans. And so when he,
I mean, he was ready, right? He had the stats. He knew the numbers. And for him, like you're saying,
trying to be that ready and to deliver that, it clearly was something that he felt pretty strongly
about. And that's another reason that I think it even says that, like, Brooks's, to Rory, I think
Brooks's comments came from a pretty real place, which I love. I love that they're spicing it up.
I love that there's some animosity at the top. I'm sure, like J.T.
and those guys have thoughts and feelings about it as well.
So I think ruffling those feathers is great.
I mean, the fact that we have,
I think I looked it up right before we came on,
the third-ranked player in the world,
the sixth-ranked player in the world,
and the seventh-ranked player in the world,
like, in this weird, like, fight,
and they're talking shit to each other via the media.
That's only good for golf.
I know some people will be like,
oh, some of those comments right of line.
Zoom out, like we always do on the show,
and just look at that.
Rory, Brooks, and DJ being in a little bit of,
like, a verbal tussle is fucking awesome.
Awesome. Agreed. It's great. I want to talk and shout out real quick, a couple massive score discrepancies that we had, Martin Kimer. He went with the old 66-82. He was four under after day one talking about how he watched a YouTube video from his win at Pioneers No. 2 in 2014, got himself kind of in the zone. He didn't really come in with much confidence. Kheimer is, of course, a two-time major winner. He won a U.S.O. when he won a PGA. He hit a clenching cut to win the first. He had a clenching put to win the
the rider cup of the Miracle of Medina, and then he just fires 82 and misses the cut in a land.
Like, he wasn't even close to making the cut after being, I think, tied for second after the first round.
Zach Johnson, I hate to put this one on there, Trent, but he went 66-76 to miss the cut by one shot.
Wearing that tight-fitted trans-america hat and quarter-zip and his tits were getting squeezed and his gut was hanging out.
and he just looks like,
Seth O'Oat looks like a trillion dollars
and he looks like he's being foreclosed,
Zach Johnson.
Like it's the opposite.
He literally looks like he's being evicted from his own body.
Damn, I won't lie to you.
That was pretty good.
I had illusions on Thursday
of what this podcast was going to be like on Sunday night
after a Zach Johnson won.
Like he was playing so well early on,
just hitting, you know, drivers down the middle,
not very far.
He's not a much of a long hitter, as we know,
but he was just playing really well.
He was near the top of the leaderboard.
And then he just fucking missed the cut.
And like, just, it really killed my dream.
66, 76, I'll do that to you.
That's just.
But I really had, I was ready to fucking bring it to you guys tonight
when Zach Johnson hoisted the Wanamaker Trophy.
It just didn't happen.
Look, we only bring these up because we love it.
We think it's very relatable where we all,
and I, you know, I threw out a little tweet on Friday night,
anything after I saw it.
Just send me some of your score.
We have people that are like, yeah, I went 77, 102, one time.
You know, I mean, that's just how golf is.
It's one day I can't miss.
You're so jacked up.
You can't wait to play the next day.
You got to figure it out.
And then you can't hit the ball in play and you shoot a million.
So that's golf.
And then we had Ryan Palmer who did a little bit of the opposite.
He went 76 on Saturday after barely making the cut.
76, 64.
He fired off his 64 on Sunday.
So it's a beautiful thing when you get those big differences
between your back-to-back rounds,
the fact that people chirp us,
the handicapped police who were Frankie's favorites,
like, oh, you shot like 87,
there's no way you claim to be a six handicaps of possible.
Dude, are you fucking kidding me?
The guy, the best players in the world,
the best players in the world can go 6682.
You're telling me that us,
with as bad and inconsistent as we are,
that we can't have a 20-stroke discrepancy
from round to round.
Get the fuck out of here.
Dude, recently a DJ went 80-80,
missed the cut,
from a tournament and then he was leading the PJ Championship.
Like golf is the stupidest thing in the world.
And handicapped police, like you said, are the worst.
Only when they do it the opposite.
I don't like what they do with me, where they say,
I say I'm too low.
Why would I ever fucking say that my number is that low?
I want as many strokes as possible.
It's the opposite of a sandbagger, you fucking morons.
I would say I'm a 15 and then really I'm an 8 or 9, whatever.
It doesn't matter.
I was actually a handicapped police from my buddy this week.
again. He came up to the fucking golf course says, yeah, I'm like, I know his game. I've played against
him in thousands of matches. He's part of the good, good conversation. And he shows up to this
fucking golf course and says to the guy who's hosting us, yeah, I'm like a 10 or a 12 or something.
And like barely got the words out. I was like, well, what does that mean? Like, like, what are
you? He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I'm a 12. I'm like, well, you're at 12 and now I'm like on
the team. So we give him an extra portion. The guy shot a 77, career low 77. He had 10,
on the front nine and every 10 puts on the front nine it was it was it was it was legitimately
the craziest display of putting I've ever seen with professional golf included from 10 to 15 feet
out he hit every single put and I mean he finished boge bogey bogey I think it's out 77 guys a fucking
fucking 12 anti guy so brin says we lost murdering you guys I mean we lost six we lost we lost eight
we lost eight and six is that even possible like we yeah
Yeah, we lost eight and seven.
It's a 12 shoot in 77 when he made his bogeys after the match was over.
So, and now my question is, I want to get back to the prog up because it was just a major
and we're talking about.
But, like, I was not happy for him, and I feel bad about that.
Like, I remember walking off greens, like, on the 14th hole, he had a 45-foot bomb for par.
And I was like, are you fucking kids?
I legitimately walked off the green.
I said, fuck you, Kyle.
Like, I went to his face with the middle finger.
I said, fuck you, man.
Meanwhile, we should be, like, rallying around him and be like,
Dude, you're even right now.
You're going crazy.
But, like, I was down $100 to this guy.
Like, I couldn't even fathom him hitting another fuck.
That's how I felt in Australia with Lurch.
Remember that?
It's easy.
Oh, yeah.
There's fucking clear footage of it.
It's like, we were guessing them up.
Oh, man, it's the worst.
But it's, I would say this.
It's, like, if you're really competitive,
I think you and I are similar to this break,
in the moment, it's very hard to be happy for them.
I think later I'm happy.
Yeah, I,
In the moment, I'm like, no, fuck you.
I still don't think, I still don't think Frankie's happy for Kyle.
I am.
I'm happy for you, Kyle.
I am.
I just, I can't get over the way he did it.
Like, it was like we were down three through three, four through four, five through five.
I'm like, is this kid kidding me?
I would hit like a tap in birdie.
He'd drill a 35 foot birdie with a stroke.
And I'm like, I quit the game.
I quit the game of go.
So, and then also another thing that we can talk about.
I don't know if you want to wait for Lurch for this.
I've also Lurch is done on here.
he's got some things going on, but we, I want to save this argument for him, or we can touch on it.
I pressed a match on the 16th hole after I watched my two opponents crush balls into like the woods.
And is that, is that important taste is the question.
Well, here's the thing about presses.
Like, they don't have to accept.
Right, right.
So, right.
So even on it to be like, all right, like, and I did it in a dickish way, I'm like, we're going to press you.
like after they were just like they were out of bounds.
Yeah.
Well, like we're hitting three off T now.
You win the hole and now you're going to win the press.
It is crazy to press after somebody's hit.
Usually you press walking to the T-bogles.
I've never even heard of somebody doing that,
but if they accepted it, then you're a genius.
Why wouldn't you?
Yeah, okay, all right.
Cool.
I want to get people's takes on that.
Like, is that the biggest gumback move of all time?
I don't know why my friends play with me at this point.
And after the good, good situation,
after not after not
Rudy for my friend shooting a fucking career low 77
and then pressing them after
the guy who was shooting a 77
I pressed him on his only bad shot of the day
to try and get some money back.
Instead of you being like, oh bummer man
like maybe we'll find that one up there.
You're like press.
Press and you're hitting a provisional.
I was going crazy.
Frankie, he put this question in the group chat over the weekend
and everyone gave their opinion on it
And then Frankie finished it with, I was the one who asked to the press and it worked in my favor.
I won and feel good about it.
Yeah, I did feel good.
But yeah, I want to take it back real quick to the golf.
And I know we just talked about Rory.
And I know we're going to get into ESPN Plus.
But I guess this all kind of ties them together.
What Tiger and Rory did on the T-box, them talking about sports,
was the coolest thing I've ever been able to be a part of watching a sporting event.
because we've often said we'll pay $1,000 to watch Tiger Woods bag groceries.
Like I'll just do it.
Like I'll watch Tiger do any sort of normal activity.
And to watch him talk sports and like not know there's a mic, like a hot mic and he's
dropping F bombs and he's talking about COVID and he's talking about the fucking San Francisco
Giants and shit.
I thought that was the coolest thing of all time.
What would you guys think about him talking about Rory?
Oh, I couldn't agree more because it wasn't, right?
Like there's two different Tiger Woods is clearly.
There's a tiger who's genuinely candid and who bust balls and apparently curses up a storm.
And we've caught little tidbits of it, right?
Like when he does clinic sometimes and those videos get out of him being like, yeah, Masters was fucking sweet.
But, you know, shitty bet on the Grand Slam.
It's like when he's himself.
And then there's media tiger who he's Bill Belichick.
He doesn't want to give the media anything.
He has no interest.
He just does it because he's pretty much obligated and he's told to do it, but he's been trained and he doesn't give you shit.
that was real raw tiger and rory shooting the shit while standing on the tea waiting sounded just like any of us except tiger actually having the passion so much so and hating the giants as a doctor's so much that he was telling rory like no no who's your team that'd be like it's liverpool over here you're a man you fan if liverpool's fucking colors on your bag that's how much and just having that genuine candid conversation be captured with any with no there was no context that tiger's
had to worry about or think about, he and Roy were just talking.
I agree.
It was kind of the highlight audio clip of the whole weekend.
Yeah, and Trent and I were streaming that night.
We were playing the golf club, which I absolutely rinsed him in.
I mean, I'm just better at you at that game now.
I beat you the first round.
I fucking killed you, and now I just can't get it.
You haven't even come close since.
We were trying to decipher exactly what it was going on.
And then we remembered that, like, Taylor Made makes, like, themed bags for the PGA championships.
And I'm sure other tournaments as well.
But last year at the PGA at Bethpage,
they did like a whole Statue of Liberty or like New York style bag.
And I'm assuming Tiger looked at that and was like,
are you fucking kid?
Like I would never fucking do that.
Even if like essentially saying,
even if my sponsors like if Monster forced me to go black and orange for like the San
Francisco Bay area,
I would legitimately hold my golf clubs in my hand,
not get a bag.
And like because I love the Dodgers that much.
And that is so cool to hear him talk about that because you don't think of,
you know Tiger would.
is a sports fan, you know he likes the Lakers
and he likes basketball time. Basketball
time. He said that to us.
When I tried to ask him, who do you like tonight?
I couldn't get the words. I just went,
I said, oh, and I couldn't get the word out.
And then Trent followed it up with, who do you like tonight?
He said my, he goes, what do you say?
Not my Lakers?
Yeah, because Lakers weren't playing.
We weren't playing. Not my Lakers.
Not my Lakers.
But he's just like that.
He's just better at everything than everyone.
He's better at holding a conversation about sports than us.
Like, I wouldn't be able to talk to anyone about sports the way Tiger did with Rory.
He's just so cool.
Well, Frankie and you and I talk about this on the stream as well.
We thought Rory and Tiger were closer.
Yes, that was an interesting fact.
They might not be as close as everyone thinks they are.
Like, we look at them and we're like, oh, they're both Nike guys.
Rory obviously loves Tiger, love them growing up.
They've seemed to have become pretty close over the years.
Tiger calls him when he's fucking working out and Rory sleeping.
Like, oh, they're fucking boys.
What are you doing?
But there were some questions during that conversation between the two of them that made it seem like they weren't as close as everybody.
Like Tiger doesn't know what his favorite football team is, like soccer team?
Like isn't, like, wouldn't that be like a well-known fact?
I made the point to Trent that like we know every single person in Barcelona's office in his team.
Like just even being like like just like kind of acquaintances with them.
Like you just know.
I would say this though.
I could see Tiger just not knowing soccer like Premier League soccer team.
But he did because he knew Liverpool was their fucking arch rival.
Like, he knew.
No, I thought he asked him.
Oh, he did?
I thought he thought he's like, who's your, who's your?
And Rory was like, well, man, you were so like Liverpool.
And then he was like, yeah, I thought that's the way it went down.
So I more took it.
But regardless, I think you're right.
I think it was, the conversation was almost like, it felt like the third time they never talked to.
Yeah, it was.
It was like, yeah, it was like they were seeing each other for the first time in years.
Yes.
But not like old friends.
Just like, oh, yeah.
remember you from an event once like let's let's do this yeah i didn't get the vibe that tiger had been
texting rory for two nights because they're going to play together about like life and like oh jack dog
they hadn't talked since pre-covety difference between speed talking to jt when he was walking off
as opposed to tiger talking to rari is like night and day like yeah yes those are genuine friends
which i know is the most overblown story and talked about all the time but we can get into that too
We can break down Tiger, which that's going to be a dumb thing.
But while we're doing kind of conversations and the hot mic,
first of all, just everything being caught on hot mic this whole week was phenomenal.
It was great.
There were so many more just tidbits and audio clips that breathe life and character
into the event and into the players and the caddies that we don't get every week,
that highlighted and made it that much better.
And this one, I mean, Speed, so Speed has been going through
you know, the most talked about
Oh, my God.
Dude, him on Saturday was,
every time they cut to him,
I got very nervous.
Like my palms got sweaty because he just,
he sometimes doesn't have it,
but he just didn't have it on Saturday at all.
And look, like he's,
it's been talked about for years now.
He hasn't won since 2017.
So it's been talked about for years now.
Then on Thursday he has a shit round.
He's at the range alone.
There's all kinds of memes coming.
out of Spieth and his team, so McCormick, who I told to get the fuck out of the way at the U.S. Open,
and Greller and Speeth on the range.
The only people in the fucking driving range, there's a clip or the picture that comes out of,
I think it was McCormick and Speeth just sitting down together, just like clearly deep,
deep in a bad place.
It feels like their, him and McCormick, his instructor, are, you know, a bickering married couple
who's constantly trying to appear like they're not bickering.
Yeah.
They're just, there's so much, there's so much stress and tension all the time.
The only way he can get better is if Steve plays better, and then he just doesn't.
So it's clearly not helping.
And then he goes out there, really, he barely makes the cut, which great, came back Friday
is exciting.
And then, like you said, he makes the cut.
He gets highlighted because he's in the feature group.
It's him and Justin Thomas, and they're relatively early off and their big names.
So everybody's watching.
JT's making a run.
He's 500 for the day.
Speed is all over the planet.
I mean, he's not even close.
He's rattled.
He's frustrated to the point where afterwards he apologized.
And it was caught a little bit.
But him and J.T. are boys.
J.T. commented on what was said, and he said,
Spith said walking off 18.
He said, I'm sorry, man.
I just didn't really give you any momentum.
And then J.T. went on to say,
that's just a good friend trying to take the blame.
And then J.T. told a story and said,
I remember I actually said that to him walking off 18 in Augusta in 2018.
When he was nine under coming up 18, I four putted 16, bogeyed 17,
and was really just trying to stay out of the way because I wanted him to birdie 18
and have a chance to shoot 10 under.
I feel terrible.
I felt terrible.
I kind of scraped it up the hole and he missed an eight footer.
I told him, hey, I'm really sorry, man.
I kind of screwed that up for you.
So there was some history here.
That's just genuine like you're saying.
That's real friends that catch up and hang out all the time.
And there is some truth to playing up or playing down to who you're playing golf with.
Very true.
So this, you know, Speed, I feel horrible for Speed.
I know that's crazy because he's won, you know, three majors.
He's got millions, tens of millions of dollars,
and he's one of the biggest stars in the game, and he's young,
and he's going to be told with time,
I feel terrible for the guy because we've all been there in some relative fashion,
especially with our golf game, but you're just lost.
And for Speed to go from the best of the best,
he's Tiger comparisons left and right.
He nearly should have won back-to-back.
Masters. He did end up winning, you know, a couple of, he almost won all four majors in 2015,
to now he's kind of the laughing stock, even though he probably shouldn't be. I mean, he's made,
I think he's made like 10 of 12 cuts this year or something like that, and he's, he's been
in the mix at times. So it's not like he's playing the worst golf in the world, but he ain't playing
speed golf, and it just looked very frustrating. I almost just want to tell Jordan Spiff to just, like,
take a deep breath. Let's just take it. It seems like he waste all of his energy on just
just feel like he's fidgety and he's always working on something.
Like I almost think he just needs to sit down and someone needs to be just like,
just sit there for like two hours and don't do anything.
I know I'm not,
I mean,
I'm not going to fix speed.
I don't know who's going to fix speed.
But it seems like they almost do too much tinkering and I don't know the ins and outs of
his relationship with McCormick.
I know they're always trying to fix something.
And if we ever follow speed at a major and we're able to follow him at a couple of practice
rounds at Pebble,
he's just,
he's always thinking,
always thinking.
And it just seems like he needs to,
think less. But again, he's probably tried everything at this point and it's just not working.
And that's got to be the most frustrating thing in the fucking world.
Yeah, he's. And it's funny that he did that with the, with the, oh, sorry, I think we had
bad connection there. Are you good? I'm good now. Yeah, I'm good. It's funny that he did that
driving range and it was caught on that because at that day, I was out to dinner with a couple
of my buddies and we were watching the golf. And I was like, man, like, you guys have no
idea what Speed does like when we go to this tournament. He's so fucking anal about
this stuff. He freaks out on himself. And they're like, really, like, I've heard the stories,
but, like, you don't see it that much. You see it a little bit. And then, like, as we were talking
about it, they showed him, like, just absolutely going crazy on the driving range from that,
like, up angle, just hitting a million shots. And he was at a thousand different divots around
him. They're like, okay, like, I get it now. Like, he's going crazy. Like, he really is losing it.
Yeah. And it's been a year, right? Like, it's been over a year since we told the amazing
stories. We're like, oh, we were finally right behind Speed while he's gearing
up for the U.S. Open, he's a crazy person.
I mean, after every shot, he's going, he's like doing all kinds of hand motions and
following the ball.
And then he's pointing to McCormick.
He's pointing to Gorellar.
What happened there?
What did you think?
After every chip, after every shot of the range, after every shot during the practice
round.
And it is exhausting.
And I'm sitting there thinking, man, you've been doing this for a whole year since the last
that we saw you.
Right.
And you were probably doing it for years before that.
It's like, he's got it.
He's like almost going to be, he's going to be like a 45-year-old, you know, 27-year-old.
It's like he's just, he's been through so much and it doesn't look fun, man.
It looks miserable.
And the frustrating part for him's got to be like, I know it works.
Like it worked in the past.
We were on top of the world and it worked and it kept working and over and over again.
And there's something had to change and he's just constantly searching for that.
And like you said, he's been doing it for over a year now and he just can't find it.
And I hope he finds it soon because I feel bad for him.
I feel really bad for it.
Get away from Under Armour.
It's got to, like, just, he just, those shoes look like,
um, the classic high school soccer cleats.
Like your buddy had, like, old cleats.
Like, his shoes are disgusting.
The pants are okay.
The shirt's like, all right.
The hat that's a square.
It's a circle inside a square.
I just, I can't get behind speed being the Under Armour guy.
Get him with some Peter Millar.
Come on.
Well, something else.
I mean, Forbes came out with our highest paid athletes in 2019 or whatever.
And he's, like,
top eight because the Under Armour money is still coming through.
So I understand what you're saying.
Like the look isn't great,
but he's getting so much money from Under Armour.
I'm sure he's just like whatever.
It's funny.
Like the look was fine when he's winning the Masters.
And now everything's just brutal.
You just need to change.
He just needs to appear, right?
Like one day, like you said,
head to toe Peter Millar,
he's using different clubs.
He's got like, I don't know,
some, his swimming coach is like
fucking Miguel on Hell Jimenez.
And they're just fucking ripping and hanging
and having a good time because they are like when they walk down the range everyone else even tiger
tiger sees kids or sees pat perez and he stops and chats when when speed walks down the range it's
him and mccormick just at each other the whole way and they're like in their own world and it's
just doesn't seem healthy it doesn't seem positive it seems awful so in 2015 he won the masters
won the u.s. open uh and then finished second in the fiji right so he was on a fucking tear
In 2015, the Under Armour stock was at like an all-time high, $50.90.
It's now a $10 stock, if what I'm seeing is correct.
So the whole company is going down, trending downwards, as is Jordan's feet, which is sad to see it.
I mean, I think one in one is, I see no reason why not to combine those two.
Well, it was also, Frankie, it was also Tom Brady was under Armour, Julio Jones.
Steph Curry, there was like a whole, like, little, like, athlete bubble where, like,
they had the number one player every single year.
I just had to get that out because Baltimore is.
No, they did.
I remember that.
Under Armour was, no, I remember that, too.
Under Armour, like, couldn't miss because they had all of these guys.
They're missing now.
Oh, yeah, right.
Swinging and missing.
Unless Under Armour wants to do something with us, like, I'll fucking, I'll bring, I'll do whatever, man.
All right.
He was like, I don't give a shit.
Like, I'm a, I don't want to say before for that stuff.
Maybe, maybe what you're saying is, it's like when a player.
gets traded. It's a change of scenery.
Maybe that's what he needs with his app. I watched him
come out there and he was rocking like
Jordans and like something crazy.
Like he was on the Pat Perez game, like wearing like MGM
and like going crazy. And we just see him
lighten it up, just swinging loose, not caring that much.
I fit underarm, everything about his game
right now just change. Just change, Jordan.
I know that what you're saying, it's in the back
of his head. It worked. It always has worked.
It's going to come back. But how many more
years we got to deal with this shit? Let's go.
I couldn't agree more.
Okay, we still got Tiger.
We still got Phil to get to.
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Really quickly, someone sent me in a ticket, and he says this was for a $2,500 collect, console me.
So I had to look at the picture.
he had a one, two, three, four, five, a six, a six matchup parlay going into Sunday.
And it was Woods versus Burger.
He picked Daniel Burger, cashed it.
McRoy versus Shafley.
Shafley, cashed it.
Morikov versus Matsuyama.
Morikawa, cashed it.
M.
versus Lowry, Chein Lowry.
Cashed it.
Justin Thomas versus John Rom.
John Rom.
Then he had Brooks Keppka versus DeChambo, and he picked Brooks Kevka.
And then DeCampbo fucking beat Brooks Kevka.
Kepka. It was a $48
bet for a $2,500
collect and all day
long you think that that's going to cash.
All day long. You're feeling
good and then Bryson comes out of the fucking
clouds like that. Oh, it's
got to kill. That has to kill.
I'm sorry, man.
That's his name. Alex Barrett. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
So I had
Kepka win in too. He was
the one I put money on and I had
Morikawa to finish top five, which was actually seven to one, which was crazy.
Seven to one odds on Morikawa to finish top five, I thought was nuts.
We're going to have to get our guys at Penn on the Morikawa train.
So actually, no, keep them off it so that.
Keep them off it.
So that's the odds are still.
Fuck you.
Don't tell them about it.
Don't tell Pan about Penn sleeping on Morikawa.
Jesus.
They're definitely not going to hear about Morikawa.
No way.
No way.
So they're our hidden gem.
Right over.
All right, Tiger Woods.
We talked a little bit about him already.
By the way, I did a little bit of reconnaissance in the word on the street.
I've been watching a lot of Jeopardy, too.
That's a good word.
Yeah, they're on, Jeopardy's on Netflix now.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I heard that.
That almost feels, I mean, it's great, but it feels.
And I know we want to get into the golf, and this is not a Jeopardy podcast,
but I don't know how people know the,
I understand that if you're like a genius and you're super smart
and you went to fucking Yale and Harvard,
Shadow Rays and all this stuff.
Like, you can retain information better than I can.
You can fucking, you can read a book, remember it,
and then just like regurgitate that information.
My question is, when do they learn some of these things?
Like, some of these questions,
when do you come across even learning them?
A 15th century, the category is 15th century literature,
and they're college kids,
and they get every single answer correct within a second.
Like, I'm talking.
oh, that's fucking Sir Charles the third who wrote the phone.
What are you talking about?
In what world did you read that book
or even come across the name of that book?
You know what I mean?
Isn't that stunning?
There is.
But isn't there like a categorical,
strategic way that people prepare for Jeopardy?
That like there's.
There's like, um,
there's patterns, I think.
Exactly.
There's patterns to like how deep they'll go through different categories.
So you don't actually,
those people don't know everything about literature.
They know like,
they're able to kind of predict how deep they're going to need to go and certain and know that.
Like, right, I think they like prepare for that shit.
I don't think that they just, I mean, some of the freaks, some of the savants that that up here do just know this.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think it's like how people prepare for the SAT, right?
Where it's like you can learn patterns and shit and pair yourself that way rather than memorizing every word that's ever been, you know, created in the history of vocabulary.
But that show, I'm with you.
That show is.
Oh, my God.
On average, on average show, how many do you get right?
I get maybe one, maybe two.
The other day, it was a college show, and I got six answers correct.
And I was going nuts.
I was going nuts.
But it was also like three of them were sports questions.
They were super easy.
And the kids, like, the nerds fucking, their brains melted it.
It was like Derek Henry, it was like Derek Henry went to this college.
And they were like, I was just like, Alabama.
I was like, it was the easiest question of all the time.
But go ahead.
Let's talk about it.
I did a little bit of reconnaissance.
and I was text to you guys a little bit, but thank you.
Our friend Robbie Mack, who's, who's Tiger's best friend, he's Tiger's guy,
he's Tiger's right-hand man, he's his best boy, he's a swing coach,
he's a little bit of everything.
And he's the one who's gotten us a little bit of time with the boss man over the,
he's the one who rolled you guys to golf balls and who's just taking care of us
whenever we've been around because we take care of the boss man.
And there's nobody at the fucking tournament.
So, again, I was texting you guys little tidbits, and I spent a good amount of time
with our friend Robbie Mac, who's a,
a phenomenal guy. He's just like, he's the smile of the Tiger Woods team. He's just around. He
knows everyone. He's the one who set up and did a lot of logistics for the President's Cup because
Tiger was the captain. He just takes care of stuff. And he and I were chit-chat and he's a fan of kind of
what we do. And we were chit-chatting for a while. I can't, I can't, you know, reveal everything,
but on the Elder Wanda situation. And I was like, so, and I don't think he'll care that. So you
got to tell me, like, when he's not, he's not using that putter because he's, Tiger's literally
at this time right in front of us using the new putter.
What's that?
Like, what's the, what's the elder one doing?
Where is it?
And he's like, it's just in the hotel room.
I was like, come on.
What?
And he's like, he was like, yeah.
And he's like, and every time I get nervous and shit about it.
He's like, because I, you know, he's like, that thing is a very valuable, you know,
putter that's been through.
And it's just, it's just in our hotel room.
I was like, man, you ever think about it?
He's like, I think about it nonstop.
The fact of that.
like Tiger, you think we should maybe I do so?
But it just, it just chills in the corner.
Like I, to me, I think that if Tiger's not holding it,
I think Robbie Mac should just have it.
Like every time we see Tiger not with it,
you just cut to Robbie Mac and he's holding it.
Like, Tiger obviously trusts Robbie Mac with his life,
so he might as well trust him with that putter.
The fact that it's just like sitting at some shitty random hotel
makes me very nervous.
It did not be.
I almost ran off property.
Like, Robbie, I need to go secure the putter.
This is crazy town.
It almost makes you think, like, since, I mean, a lot of things happen.
We're not going to, but, like, since 2008 to 2019, like, his, from the U.S.
Open to the Masters, almost like Tiger lost that putter because of how, how, like,
nonchalant he was leaving it in places, right?
Like, like, you got, like, the fact that he just leaves it in hotels, like, to me
makes me think, like, for that 11-year span,
like that putter the elder one was gone and missing and like he retrieved it and recovered it in
2019 for the masters like now it's back but like to me that's crazy that it's just like you can't
even put it in a safe or a lot it's just too like unless he like deconstructs it and puts it in
the safe imagine he did that it's almost like one of those like little mini putters that like
you can just like bending and you throw it in the same no he made it you know he made it seem like
there's like a robe a towel and then like the butter it's just that
The maids are moving it, like, every time they think something else.
Like, what the fuck?
Yes.
I was like, come on, man.
That's, but, yeah, that's just, there's no, it's sad, really.
He also, I don't know if you were going to bring this up,
but he also said that, like, you need to become a better golfer.
Is that something that happened between you and Robbie Macs?
So this is something I wanted to bring up, too, that I think, well, I'll explain.
So, you know, we're talking, and he's like, you know, how's the game?
And I was like, yeah, that's kind of how it always is.
He's like, I'm a little bad.
I got a little bit better maybe at Pioneer.
She's like, yeah, I saw some of the videos.
He swings a little flat.
And I was like, yeah, yeah.
It's not, you know, whatever.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, no, he's like, you know, we think, yeah, he really got
and he started getting into tips.
And he's like, yeah, I think you got really, you know, get those, get that, you know,
get that right elbow higher and you got to, because if you're a little bit more upright,
you know, you're going to have a lot more room.
You're hockey player.
You got some, you know, you clearly got some athleticism, but you're kind of killing yourself coming back.
And I was like, yeah, so we're,
We're, there we are.
Tigers, like, walking down the fairway.
And I'm standing there with his best friend.
We're doing the shadow.
So I'm like, you mean like this, Robbie?
You know what I'm like going through the,
going through the club positions.
And I was like, okay.
And then he says, he goes, yeah, I mean, we're going to,
if you're going to kind of represent the brand and be part of the team,
like, you know, we're going to need you to play some good golf out there.
We can't have, like, well, fuck.
And, like, Robbie, are you threatening me?
Right.
Like, listen, if we're going to keep doing this, we're going to need you to start performing just a little bit better.
It's almost like this.
It's like the guy from office space.
He's like, I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday.
Like, I need you to go ahead and just be better.
Okay?
Okay?
Let's just do that.
And he actually, so that this was on Friday.
And it was just a short, brief little interaction.
We're hanging.
And then, yes, on Saturday, you know, because Friday, Tiger played in the afternoon evening.
prime time. It's the second round. He's still right in the mix. Saturday's off early in the
morning, so there weren't as many people were out. So I spent probably two hours with Robbie,
and we're talking about life, all kinds of different stuff. But again, at the very beginning of the
conversation, he leads off with, yeah, so, you know, you've been thinking about that,
you know, the swim. I was just like, man, and then he actually said the line, like, you know,
if you're going to be kind of a tiger guy and our guy, we can't have you out there shooting 85.
I was just like, are you, are you serious, man?
I'm not going to be allowed in the room.
I'm not going to be allowed in the room if we ever interviewed Tiger.
They're going to kick my ass out.
Trent walks in, there's just laser pointers on his chest and just rubber bullets.
He said, boom, boom, boom, boom, don't get anywhere near Tiger.
The way I picture it is, I think it's exactly how you're explaining it, Riggs,
where it starts out as a joke, you're maybe killing some time with Robbie, like,
yeah, let's talk a little bit about the swing.
And then he's like, no, no, no, I'm serious.
Like, you need to play better or you're never.
getting like a sit down with the guy.
Do you...
A hundred...
No, I think he's very serious.
After hearing that,
do you think there was ever a time in which they were like
chilling on fucking privacy or something?
And Tiger, like, saw a video of your thing.
It was like, yeah.
Do you think...
Yeah, I think so, too, man.
I think Robbie Mac was like,
you know, that guy Riggs?
Like, what do you think about this thing?
And Tiger probably, like, broke it down.
Like, this is brutal.
Like, oh, man, let me see that.
Because Tiger probably lives for that shit.
The vibe I got,
Frankie was that that absolutely happened
and if it doesn't change, we're not going to get anywhere
near Tiger.
The way, the way Riggs said yes
when Frankie asked him if Tiger
has seen his swing, was the perfect
mix of excitement, but also
devastation that Tiger definitely fucking
hated it. Yeah, definitely. I could
just picture it. I can see him sitting there
like, Robbie Mac being like, look at this thing,
Tiger. Like this is our guy. He's like
that leader of fucking Tiger Woods
fan boy club and this is his swing
and Tiger's like, oh, that's really tough.
That's a really tough swing.
That's just really, really tough.
Honestly, it felt like Robbie was like, yeah, so like, what are you still doing here?
I got thought we talked about the swing changes.
And it was, I think it was a threat.
So no joke.
I'm, I was like, no, yeah, I'm going to go to the range.
It was, you know, it was like my parents were like, did you do your homework yet?
I was kind of like, I don't, do, are you serious?
Right now.
You just like start running.
He's like, go, go.
Shewing you away.
So yeah, so that was a big part of the conversation.
And then again, on the 18th tee, as Tiger, which I got another little tidbit, this I'm allowed to share, where he was saying,
so Robbie's told me, I guess Tiger's obsessed with and he uses teeny tiny teas.
And I've actually noticed this, like, other guys on Tortee the ball up pretty fucking high and, like, let it rip.
And tigers always teed it pretty low.
And he said that he's like, now watch this on 18, we got a new little thing because Tiger's got to sling it kind of over the tree a little bit when they try to cut off the coin.
on the 18th tee.
And he's like, watch this.
Here comes the big tea.
And sure enough, Tiger pulls out a much, like a legit, long-ass tea and tees the ball up high.
And I go, now, are you telling me that all the other teas in his bag are shorter,
but he keeps one tea because you guys have been, you talked him into this new long tea thing.
He goes, yep, that's like he doesn't use that tea except on a couple tea shots now where he
teased it higher and he's never done that before in competition.
I was like, no fucking way.
That's fucking awesome.
I love everything about that.
And also the fact that, like, and I know they all do this.
I'm sure high school golfers do this,
but the fact that their teas are at the same height and same length
and everything on every single swing to the point where, like,
you can bring out a longer tee and, like, that difference in inches or centimeters
or whatever is, like, the difference between hitting it over the trees and not.
Meanwhile, when we get up there, we just try and get the ball on the tee.
And this in the general direction, the general length that we usually have it,
Like the fact that it's that minuscule and that precise is absolutely mind-blowing to me.
Like you can give me any tea and I just make it work, right?
And I said, I told him, like, my ball is just teed up as high as it ended up on my first attempt.
Right?
Like, I'm not, I just tee it up and then however high it is, that's how high it is when I strike the golf ball.
It's not.
It's crazy if you think about, like we should always have it at the same height because that's, you can practice your swing a billion times.
if you don't have the ball in the same spot,
you're going to need a different swing
for the different heights and stuff, right?
Like you...
It makes a lot of sense.
It makes so much sense.
I don't think that we practiced that.
And I told Robbie, I said that.
I was like, you know, it's just...
He kind of laughed and again, he was like,
you know...
Well, don't you start practicing that.
Robbie Mac, not laughing, but not laughing,
just like, ha, ha, ha, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You don't do that, or you should?
Yeah, you're...
You're terrible golf.
If you don't improve, you're never getting time with the boss, man.
No, so I'm not kidding.
Like, I'm on a mission now.
I think if I don't get better, it's, like, we're going to lose access to Tiger.
So I, I guess it's a serious problem.
Holy shit, that's funny.
Kind of addressed.
Like, I don't, I don't know.
Like, I don't think I can post another video of me playing golf unless I'm hitting, like,
roasting a three iron stinger.
I don't think I can, anything else is just not going to work.
So, I don't know, it's going to be a problem.
But anyways, Tiger Woods, what a week.
What an interesting week.
There's, you know, it ended strong.
I guess we'll say that.
He shot 367.
He came out in a red sweater that anytime, we don't get to see that red sweater that often.
Especially in the Tigers, he doesn't play in cold conditions all that often.
It's really only iconic moments.
I mean, when he won his first master's 97 by 12 shots on the 18th green, he had that sweater.
he had the sleeves rolled up.
He had the red sweater.
I remember, I think it was in Philly or one of the playoff events,
like a year and a half ago when he rocked the red sweater.
And it was so stunning.
And I don't feel like we'd seen it since.
And then this morning, man, when he came out with that fucking sweater
and I saw that clip, it was so surprising.
I just never seen anybody else wear anything like it.
It looks so good on him.
It's not possible for him to play bad golf.
So I don't know if they need to make one of those that's,
you know how like they got the sleeve?
that are good for the sun and they're actually that keep it like they need to make a red sweater for
tiger like that that he can just wear all year round. He looks unreal in that thing. So he looked
really good all week. The sweater he looked phenomenal in. But and the one thing that I really need
to comment on is him wearing the buff. He wore the buff on Thursday, Friday. I think he took it off
on Saturday, maybe even took it off on Friday a little bit or like even during the round on Thursday
he was taking off, putting it back on. It was like weird. But Tiger,
rocking the buff on the first whole first like stretch of the pga championship was such a bizarre
look but also like the coolest look of all time the fact that like at any moment he could have
put that thing over his nose and just went like full like like uh like seal team six on people and
just like went into a roll and just started sniping people out of the trees or something like
he just looked like he was in desert storm like like back on comms it was like back on coms how much
golf could he have possibly played with a buff around his neck? Zero. Right. Like this, we're talking
about a guy who thinks about everything. We just talked about how he uses different size T's,
and now he's got something hanging around his neck, but it seemed like he didn't notice it at
all, but he looked fucking awesome with it all. He looked, he looked really cool, and I didn't expect
that. I don't know if he was using it as kind of a scarf type thing. There was some chatter about
that because he's always right like if other guys are wearing uh you know like a vest tiger always has
like a sweater and a fucking winter cap on like he's always colder i like than other people so
there were some theories that he was kind of using it as a scarf i don't like he didn't need to have
no one else had it on so i don't know why he was wearing it but he did look cool as fuck
throughout the entire time uh when he was introduced and there was no applause that was one of the
weirdest things I've seen in sports and I didn't like it. I didn't like it at all. I was standing there
and I will say it was still, I was feeling out the week and it was also like right in front of me was
JT, Rory, and Tiger. So like if they introduced Tiger and I started going crazy, like all of those
people would have just looked at me like, what are you doing a crazy person? So I didn't. I kind of regret it
now. I feel like I should have gone crazy when they introduced him. It's an interesting. It's like a, it's your
last hurrah then so it's like you really got to pick the poison like it's like your last time you're invited
there it's the last time like but then like a guy like j t would find that hilarious he'd look over and
like look at this fucking guy i think so it was also the beginning like for them it's the beginning of a
major yeah they've been like preparing all week and they're like in the zone and then here's this
fucking barstool idiot like making a a mockery of the whole thing yeah i think j t might turn around and be like
lose my number.
He's like, you are a disgrace.
Like you're saying, this is the start of a major.
And this fucking moron who we have allowed on these grounds just completely
burned every bridge that he's ever built for like a viral moment that people are
going to forget about in three days.
True.
Yeah.
It would have been awesome in the moment for sure.
We would have supported it.
And I didn't realize because the video, the actual quiet video ended up going viral.
So now I'm like,
If I would have been on that going nuts, I think it would have gone viral, but I didn't know that in the moment.
And I thought, because, like, actually the rest of the week, people clapped a lot.
Like, you started to hear people get the competence to clap and volunteers and shit.
But in the moment, nobody was clapping, and I would have stuck out.
I mean, I would have been kicked off of breath.
Yeah.
Just like, we have a good relationship with the PGA of America, but I don't know if it's that good, where you can, like, cheer for Tiger Woods wearing a press credential when there's nobody else out there.
I mean, it would have been an all-time moment.
I wonder if we asked our buddy Sethwa had Riggs cheered on one what he would do.
He probably would have loved it.
He would have loved it.
Yeah, yeah.
You're probably right.
Anyways, Tiger's game, it was interesting.
He did overall, I think, look great.
My takeaways are positive.
I have a ton of confidence going forward.
No part of me thinks less of his chances.
after that, I actually think more of them.
I mean, all we had seen was the memorial, really,
and he did not look great at the memorial to the point where people were starting
to question his health and his back.
He made comments about how it's not going to be healthy every week,
and there's going to be problems sometimes.
This week, I mean, he looked healthy.
He was taking rips at the ball.
He was fifth, I think, in driving distance at the end of the first round.
He averaged over 300 for the week.
He was taking mighty lashes out of the rough when he needed to.
he drove the ball two out of the four days like a stallion and the other days he wasn't that bad
he just had a shitty putter he had a dog shit putter for the Thursday or for the Friday and
Saturday rounds today's Sunday it was solid Thursday it was solid and both those rounds he was a
combined 500 par so if he could have had it going you know in the middle of he could have gotten
hot at some point started making some putts flips everything around he could have been right
there coming down the stretch so so overall I feel pretty good it was disappointing right
like Tiger Teeing off early on Saturday and early on Sunday sucks.
But also it's just cool watching him play.
I actually noticed that even watching those rounds of golf,
like how glued in I am to every shot because he's Tiger Woods,
even when he doesn't have a chance to win,
reminds me of how big of a just genuine Tiger Woods golf fan I am,
not just the hysteria, not just when he's winning majors,
but just watching him play is so much more fascinating than watching anybody else play.
So, you know, that part of it was cool.
But I didn't think it was any reason to panic.
He was never really in contention, and we're on to the playoffs.
I never want to see that putter again.
That's what I want to say.
On Saturday, I have such a bad taste in my mouth from Saturday that I tweeted
to you rigs.
I was like, steal that thing and run away with it.
That's when you got to burn all your bridges.
Forget whooping it up on the first tee.
When he's playing like shit with the putter that's not the elder one,
get that thing the fuck out of there, take it, run into Lake Merced with it and never
let him see it again.
It was so good on Friday, though, that you have to think that, like, he needs a little
more time with it, right?
He says it helps his back.
He can practice more.
I like the new fucking putter.
I mean, I hate it.
I like it.
I like it too.
Thursday he putted so well with it.
It was draining in long putts.
He at one point on Thursday had like a hundred and ten feet worth of putts made.
And it was more than Justin Thomas and Rory combined at that time.
Like he was absolutely rolling the rock.
So like at that point, if he could just give himself a little more time to learn with this thing,
he's going to be dynamite with that putter.
I really do.
I really think so.
I'm with you, Frankie.
I'm with you.
I like it.
I like the whole concept
that he can stand up a little taller
and it doesn't fuck up his back.
That's great.
Because anything that's back,
I have such a trigger
towards back related tiger stuff.
I don't ever want to go down
that path again.
I never want to live in a world
where Tiger like can't fucking compete.
So if he just needs to stand up a little taller
with his new Scotty,
the thing looks,
I will say when he's standing over pucks,
it looks like the same fucking putter.
We had that mallet thing.
When he was trying to win majors
with that black mallet thing,
that looked like that's not.
our guy, right? That's like, that's like how
Robbie and then view me. Like, that can't be our guy
that's swinging like that. I was like, that's
not our tiger that's going to putt. Like, he's not
going to have a 10-footer to win
the masters and use that
hideous putter. Whereas
this one looks exactly the same
from, you know, the camera angle,
so I'm fine with it. Sounds like you guys are okay
with T-37 and that's sad to
hear. That's no, don't
don't play that game. Trent.
Yeah. That's a dissonance
game you're playing right there.
Why don't you go cut you and throw that TPC D run?
I'm just saying, I mean, the other one's got majors on majors on majors.
And this one, you guys are, you guys are hyping it up like he finished top five.
It's like, I don't know what the fuck we're even talking about.
Just use the wall.
I saw enough good stuff.
And I'm a believer.
That's a pretty good point.
I don't want, get teeth.
That's a really good point out of here.
I know what you guys are saying.
It was like 50.
50.
Good half of the time, but that just doesn't seem good.
It was better than we've seen like in like 10 years on third.
Like I got to the point on Thursday, he didn't play like phenomenal.
He played great.
But like every time he was 10 feet and in, I was like, this is it.
And like at that point, if he can do that with that putter at any moment, just give him the time to get consistent with it.
And I think it's going to be a winner.
Same on Sunday's round.
Sunday, yes.
Yeah, when he had a putt that's like, oh,
oh, he could make this.
I felt like he was going to make it,
and he did.
Whereas Saturday,
I mean, Saturday it was...
He couldn't make a fucking...
Couldn't hit water from a boat.
He couldn't...
Nice.
Couldn't hit a...
I don't know.
He couldn't...
He couldn't even two putt from like 20 feet.
That's what was...
You're right?
It was like one of those where you're...
Oh, he better put this stone cold dead or he's going to miss it.
So those were dark times.
And I don't want to see those anymore,
but overall, I think, pretty possible.
I want to point out,
I know we have it on the outline, ESPN Plus, and I want to tie this into the way you said that you have to watch Tiger Woods play golf and like you're so addicted to it.
At first I couldn't find the golf coverage and I was fucking infuriated by it because it's the first major we've had all year.
COVID, everything.
We're in our house.
Like, let's just fucking Tiger Woods is on TV.
Put it on TV.
Let's go.
Where is it?
Why can't I watch it?
I was going nuts in my room.
Like where?
I actually texted you guys like, can I watch Tiger Woods play golf or is that an impossible feat?
And you guys said it's only on ESPN Plus, and I said, all right.
And I was like, it's $5 for the month, whatever.
You got to pay for it.
I was like, I'm not going to pay for.
I'm going to find a free stream.
And at the end of the day, I was like, you know what?
I just paid $3.50 for a side of garlic aoli at this lobster joint the other day for my fries.
And why aren't I paying $5 to watch Tiger Woods play golf?
So you know, I just fucking did it.
And I did it.
And let me tell you something.
When you watch the featured groups, I can't go back to watching general coverage, especially
when it's Tiger Woods.
I had this to be with my buddies.
Like, I can't get behind seeing shot after shot after shot
and highlight real fucking golf coverage.
I can't, like, figure out what's going on.
I can't, you're not watching a round of golf.
Like, you get to actually see the guy go from T1 to the 18th green
and you actually get to see professional golfers at their highest level play the game.
You get to see them talk about fucking, like what Tiger and Roarer are talking about.
You get to see everything.
And then when you're watching the general coverage,
on Thursday and Friday, it's like every time they pan to a different person, it's like, oh, let's check
you know, I'm Paul Casey. You know the putts going in. It's like, it's all the same shit at that
point. Like at that point, you're just like, I might as well just pull up my fucking phone and look at
the leaderboard because you're just going to show me like good shots here and there. I'm going to
see them on Twitter anyway. Let me watch golf. I want to watch a full round. So I watch just strictly
featured coverage. I watched Jordan Speeds Group and then I watched Tiger's group. And it was
the most enjoyable experience I've ever had watching it. It was like you were just, you had a camera on
Sugarwoods for five hours, four hours.
And what more can you ask for?
I couldn't agree more.
I do think what you said about not ever being able to experience someone's full
round of golf sucks.
Like I've never been able to experience through viewing Kevin Kisner's full round of golf
ever, never.
And that is really, like that is the relatable, understandable part, right?
like you you want to see the ebbs and flows you want to see it oh he's driving it well now for this
stretch he's he's feeling it now it's like oh he's actually the last four holes he's been in the
rough but he saved a bunch of pars and this is now a huge moment where he can break through and make a
birdie whereas if they just cut to him when he's got the birdie putt like oh cool he's got
like a good round going he's one under you have no fucking clue how we got there and having the
featured group coverage where like you're saying you see everything you see the chatting with
the caddy, you see him throwing grass up in the air, you see a cart fucking stopped in their
back swing, and that's why they're a little bit behind. Like, you understand how they got there,
and it, it was really good, I thought, throughout the entire. I like, I like general coverage
for being totally honest. I can't, I like general coverage. I can't stand it. Because I do like
watching everything that's going on, and your point that you want to see every shot of tigers,
even general coverage shows every shot of tigers. Like, you're not going to miss. I know you like
seeing him talk to Roarraud on the T-box. I love that as well. But I like knowing what's going
on with everybody else and it's like you're just watching the entire tournament. Like you're
going to see every Tiger shot regardless of what coverage you watch. I like the general
coverage on Sunday. Like that like at the end like everyone's coming down 15, 16, 17, 17, 18 and
every single swing and shot feels like it's a huge moment, which at that point, it's must watch TV.
You have to watch the general coverage there. But unlike the Thursdays and Fridays, I just don't need to
see the guys who are like
holing out from like
like they're chipping in and they
they go away from like tiger
to go show a guy chip in
on the second hole and he
he went from plus one to even and like
then the next shot to long putt
and like you don't even see it yet and you know it's going in
because like why would they show the guy who's four over
like putting right now. There's no rhythm
to it. You just know that you know
when they show a guy like oh let's check in on
Jim Furek he's seven over let's watch
this put like all right I know this is going in
clearly it's a bomb put because like why would you show him it's just like i don't know i just
i i love so much more watching the featured coverage and then on the on sundays just flipping
on that that general coverage and see yeah i i do think general coverage is is on sundays
and even saturdays is good because you know like you need to the tournament starts to come together
and you need someone to curate that for you right and present it for you because otherwise you're
just going to be fucking lost uh but i do
having those full round experiences is so different than just the in and out highlights.
And especially like later in the tournament on Sunday when you start to know every hole
and you start to know like, okay, I've watched so many guys play the 16th that like if he doesn't
make birdie here, like that's, that's going to cost him the tournament and understanding how
those things play out.
But then I want to see everyone come through there, right?
like if all the sudden Tommy Fleetwood, they just skipped through and now he's on 18.
I'm like, well, no, how did he, I've been waiting for that fucker to play these cool holes that I've been watching all day.
How did he do on those holes?
It sucks when you don't get to experience.
And we're watching the future coverage.
You get moments and I talked about on Twitter a little bit where I was, where Rory couldn't find his ball on one of those holes against the lake.
I don't know which one it was.
I can't remember.
It was on Thursday.
And like the camera's just on them.
They're not going to commercial and they're legitimately looking for the ball.
And the camera's just on Tiger Woods, Rory Maperon Johnson Tom, looking for Rory's ball.
looking for Rory's ball as if they're at immunity, which they were.
But like three of the best golfers in the world,
one of the best golfers of all time,
literally looking for a golf ball.
And then someone, like a ranger's like,
oh, I got it over here.
And Rory comes running over.
And he's like, no, that's not my ball.
And then he, because he knows his way left off the tree.
And it's just the most relatable.
Like, oh, my God, I just did that yesterday when I play with my buddies.
And they found a ball.
I got one over here.
Are you playing Strickson?
Like, no, dude, I haven't played Strickson since I got a fucking free sleep of balls from a golf out
and that came with a glove that was the wrong hand.
Like, it just felt like such a, it felt like Rory was my buddy right there and that like
my other friend was screaming for his ball there.
That's why I love the coverage, the future.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm a feature group fan, but like I said, there's times for both.
And luckily, if you just pay, you can, for the most part, especially at BGA tour events,
I mean, you're going to, you can get the featured groups.
the PJ Tour Live and it's just kind of other times late in tournaments when you can't get that,
which sucks.
But yeah, I thought ESPN Plus did a great job.
Scott Van Pelt, Duvall, they were really good.
Scott Bampel is one of the best in the game right now at Colin golf, I think.
The way he facilitates from shot to shot, he gets in a couple of jokes, one-liners.
He's very, their whole vibe, the way that they all mesh together, it's like a bunch of buddies
talking about golf, but it's a major tournament.
I love Scott Van Pelt on the call.
I think when he actually logged off,
I was upset that we weren't getting more Scott Van Pelt.
Like, it's like Jim Nance is coming in,
but like I want Scott Van Pelt more.
Like, I think he's like my number one guy
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I love Scott Van Pelt on TV.
He was great.
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If we're going to talk about the commentary,
we're going to talk about Phil Nicholson.
Phil jumped in the booth on Saturday afternoon.
I was actually on site.
I mean, I saw, you know, we're all talking and everybody has seen now the clip of
him saying that he only does three things well.
A little sex joke on on the TV coverage.
But Faldo in a blender.
Oh, I felt for Faldo.
I've been there before.
I still, I've been there.
You can ask him right now,
and I don't think he understood what it was.
Nance looked over at him like,
are you fucking serious right now?
We'll illustrate it for you later.
Whatever he said.
He said, use your imagination, dear boy.
Yeah.
I mean, Phil was getting a lot of, his commentary was really good,
and he was getting a lot of Tony Romo comparisons.
And the reason why, and it's a good comparison to get,
because they're both good commentators.
But like Phil is still, like Tony Romo early on was so good
because he was just fresh out of the game,
and he knew all the people who were still playing.
And obviously, Phil is still playing.
So he's got all this insight that you wouldn't normally get from
a guy like Nick Faldo who hasn't been playing in a lot,
in a long time. Phil is fresh on the tour. He's still playing. He knows insights into these guys.
So the things he says about people is just more interesting than what other people have to say because
he's still competing against these guys. Yeah, I agree too because also like you're going to get
those moments which a lot of people don't like when it comes to Tony Romo. But where Phil is saying,
oh, he has this kind of shot. He has to do this when I was in this situation. I do this with my hands.
Right. Watch him here. He's.
going to talk to his caddy here and he's going to hit the ball on this side of the green because
the ball trickles down we all know that on this saturday with this pin placement he can say all that stuff
just like romo's like watch this he just audible this is a pass across the slot this is a this is a
fucking touchdown five-yard pass the cowher up whatever as long as he knows how to do it the right
way and not be over-bary and annoy it's the most it's the best commentating you can have
because it's the inside no one else has right yes and right like phil's clear
clearly an articulate, thoughtful speaker.
He always has been with the media.
And Phil also, like, Phil gets his rocks off on being perceived as smart and witty.
Yeah.
Right.
So, like, so he's, he's clearly using that booth, uh, showing as an opportunity to show
up.
Like Phil likes to show off.
That's why he hits ridiculous golf shots.
That's what, that's who Phil is.
That's why he's always caught on camera.
Look at his new brand he's created.
That's why he's caught on camera, like betting against the gallery, always $20.
He's a little bit of a show off.
And now he knows he's got that chance in the booth to jump in there, to show off his knowledge,
to show off his insights and to also show off like how articulate and witty and funny he can be.
And it landed.
And it is, I think the Romo is a great comparison, right?
Because half of the people or some people despise Romo on the coverage and they think he's overbearing.
he takes over the coverage and that it's like shut the fuck up we know that you know and we want to
like just watch the game and so phil could get to that point but i like it's all positive so far what
phil was doing in there all the stuff that i saw and i went back and watched so much of it as i
possibly could he is insightful he literally had just played the fucking golf course he's won the pga
before he's won five major championships he's battled tiger he's been in every situation you could
possibly be in and so to have him in the booth he clearly by the way hate
Nick Faldo and Nick Faldo hates them.
Yeah.
I was going to say, the only person who wasn't a fan of Phil Mickelson's commentary was Nick Faldo.
They fucking hate each other.
Oh, deep hatred there.
I, you know, I could get it from Faldo's vantage point, right?
Like, they pretty much presented his replacement.
Yep.
And had him sit there.
And now Faldo, I mean, Faldo's pretty active on Twitter.
So Falto seeing everyone was tweeting like, oh, nice to like see the guy that's going to finally replace
Fowledo, like Phil was phenomenal. Get Sir Nick the fuck out of there. Like, everybody was tweeting
that. So you know Fowledo was going to see that. You know that he's been kind of like worried about
this to some degree. And there's clearly some bad blood from, who knows, rider cups,
competitiveness, just they're all in the golf circle and big names and golf that don't like each other.
Who knows what the history is. But it's clearly pretty dark there. And then Sir Nick today was
started taking shots at Phil. And Phil was on 18 about how, you know, like,
he's going to be upset that like Tiger beat him this way on this.
he's taking shots as those guys fucking hate each other
which is another great element.
Yeah, he did go full Frankie on today because Phil wasn't there,
obviously, like to defend himself.
So Nick had just thought all the shit he wanted,
and it was just, it was the best.
Yeah, I would love, I would love to know what the backstory is
and those two hating each other because it seems pretty serious.
Yeah, it did.
But it was, Phil was great.
So I imagine we'll get more Phil.
I imagine he's going to be negotiating and finegling and doing whatever Phil can do to get the best contract or be Phil.
Phil's goofy fuck.
Hopefully he ends up in the booth more because it was fantastic.
Okay.
We got a couple more quick ones just to get to.
It's been a long-ass show already.
Houtong Lee, who was leading after 36 holes, a ton was made about him practicing.
And first of all, he's got a crazy background.
I imagine a lot of people that were pretty into the tournament were reading some of the features.
and refreshing themselves. But at the President's Cup, you know, in Melbourne, like he got sat the first
two days and then went out the third day. And, you know, Ernie Ells, Captain Ernie Ells had had a clear
plan to not, he didn't want guys hitting driver on one. How Tongley rips driver on one. And Ernie
L's kind of like chirps him. They get destroyed that match. Then the next day, he loses his match.
Again, he's caught scrolling through his phone during Ernie Ells's like emotional speech as the
captain afterwards. And it was all reported that he didn't.
give a fuck about being there at all. He had the stamped wedge that's that's come out where he
had it stamped on his wedge that Houtong Lee is the most handsome man in China. That's just
stamped on his wretch. So clearly he's an interesting cat. But what was weird was he was the
second group out on Friday, went out and shot a great round so he gets in the clubhouse at
nine under, I think it was. He's leading the tournament. He goes home, takes a nap a little bit,
comes back that afternoon, and just goes to the range and hits balls and chips and puts
around and the camera crew and the coverage just kept cutting to him.
And people just started roasting him online for like, go the fuck home.
Which I thought was a little ridiculous.
Like he's, you know, like the guy's leading a major and he's got all afternoon to kill and all
morning the next morning to kill.
And he's in like a bubble where they're not allowed to go to like restaurants.
Right.
What the fuck else is you going to do?
So so he was just kind of like messing around chip and hitting balls and, and he was kind of
getting roasted for that.
but Hal Tong Lee, I think, is quite the character,
and he's clearly a fucking major talent.
So I could see him being around and popping up in big tournaments here and there for a long time.
Yeah, I agree.
And also it seems like, I mean, people say that he's like one of the funnier guys on tour
and he's just got a crazy, crazy personality,
which I think if he can just go with that personality
and not change and conform to other people and what he's supposed to be
and all this stuff like we always complain about with Bryson and Brooks,
where, like, you keep changing who the fuck they are,
based off of like what people like and don't like.
If they, if Todd Tong Lee, and I'm sorry, I just can't, I never know how to say the name.
I thought you nailed it.
I don't really know.
That sounded really good, right?
I've been practicing it because when he was leading, it's like you want to talk about him that much,
and he was fucking on fire for the first 36 holes.
You, you know, now, you know, now I just, I lost my fucking take because of the, like,
I wanted to make sure.
You were so focused on pronouncing your name.
You said, you were saying, Frankie, that you really wanted him to stick to him being him.
Oh, yeah.
He's just this crazy guy running around on his phone and disrespecting Ernie L's and fucking,
and practicing after 36 holes and staying there until 10 o'clock at night and doing all this stuff.
Do it, man.
I need, I need some of that in the PGA tour.
I need, like, a genuine, funny person on the PGA tour.
Like, Kevin Kisner, we know that he's funny because, like, he's funny with us and he makes
these, like, little comments.
But if Lee's going to go out there and, like, disrespect people and captains and,
and like legitimately they say do not hit driver
and he goes out there with his fucking clubs
and just his like stamped clubs
to say I'm the most handsome person in China
and hits a fucking bomb with a drive
and they're all in the fucking clubhouse like no
like what the fuck is he doing?
He's like fuck you guys like I'm fucking out of here
doing whatever the hell I want like
that's awesome. I love this guy.
I think he's electric.
There's no way to not.
There's no denying how electric he is.
I agree with you.
I agree.
What was the one clip he's driving in the cart
and he was looking for the ball?
He was just like buzzing around the cart on the coverage.
All of a sudden they put the coverage on him and he's buzzing around on a cart.
I'm like, what does this guy do it?
He's a circus out there, but he's also like a sick off.
He is.
He's really good.
He took down, who was it, Rory?
I think he took down Rory in a, was it Rory or JT?
He took down one of those guys in like the Dubai tournament,
which is, you know, the biggest tournament on the European Tour.
So he can play.
He was clearly leading the PGA championship.
So he'll be around, I think, for a long time.
and he does seem like quite the character.
And I did kind of want to defend.
Like he should go out and practice if he wants to fucking practice.
That's not going to be the reason that he doesn't play well.
Bryson broke his driver.
That was very funny on Thursday when he's the talk of town,
the meat stick, and he leans on his driver
and the thing just fucking breaks his nap.
I thought we were going to get some really good.
He ended up just kind of recovering and handling it fine,
but it looked like we were going to have a hell town there.
No, this is the thing.
And you can't script.
First of all, you can't script.
anything that happens with Bryson because if you did, people would be like, that's not
believable. The fact that the main storyline since the restart has been everything,
Bryson, and how he's this meathead protein chugging dude now and he hits bomb drives.
So for him to break his driver at the PJ Championship, you can't script that. But he is a
hypocrite because as soon as he broke the driver, he was in front of the camera being like,
oh, I guess I put too many good swings on it. Oh, I guess I hit it too well.
That is the same guy who just weeks ago was complaining that the camera stayed on him too long.
He only likes the cameras when it's something LOL that he can play up and it's part of his persona.
But when it's him being an asshole to a cameraman lingering on him too long because he's playing like garbage, he's like, get out of my face.
That is the part that I don't like about Bracey Nishambeau.
He's a hypocrite.
Yeah, he also like he saw it.
And we talked about that when we were streaming the golf club.
Like he saw that as a moment.
I was like, oh, I'm going to be like the, I'm going to be the fun, Bryson, because this is a funny moment,
as opposed to like I'm looking at animal holes and ants and stuff.
And I know people are going to think this is like, I'm being a dick here.
He saw this as like, oh, I broke my driver.
I'm the big guy.
And then like, they actually let him do what he wanted where he's like, can I go get another one in my car?
Which was a really funny, unique thing to see a PGA pro guy, be like, can I send my friend to my car to get my other driver?
Really weird to see, like, imagine that in any other sport.
imagine like the baseball player being like can I just go get my bat in my trunk because my bat broke and I need another one they're like yeah yeah we'll wait for you like just go get it it's like the most unprofessional non-professional sports thing I've ever seen in my entire life but so like I think he saw that as that moment and he really ate it up you can see he was like smirk and he tapped he tapped the rules official on the shoulder like thank you so much my man like it was he went out of the way like to go in front of the camera and do that so I do agree with Trent and also
like, I feel like during the coverage, they were trying to figure out, like, if he had done
something wrong with the driver, like, so I guess if it breaks while you're taking a swing,
you can no longer use it.
Now, if it breaks, if it breaks during the normal course of play, you can replace it.
If it breaks because you caused it to break out of frustration or something along those lines,
then you cannot replace it.
So him just going to pick up his tea and leaning on it, and at breaking was deemed just like
normal motion of play.
I did have a buddy who was sending me conspiracy theories that, like,
Bryson had hit a handful of shit drives before that purpose and then started driving
it great afterwards.
You know, I don't see much in that.
At first they're like, oh, it just popped off.
Like, it just popped off.
He looked down and it's just there.
And then they showed the replay.
And whoever was announcing at the time was like, oh, he leaned on that, like, pretty
hard.
Like, someone tried to get that in there.
one of the announcers tried to get in the fact that, like, he leaned on this fucking thing.
Like, I've done that before where I'm like, dude, I'll put as much, it will look like I'm not mad,
and I'll grab a T with all the force in my body.
And, like, I'll just grab it with, like, my pointer finger and my thumb and I'll snap it.
Like, you know, like a fucking toothpick.
And, like, it'll look like I just went down and grabbed it.
I could totally see him putting all the force in his body down on his driver being like,
like, motherfucker.
Like, I can't, because he hit a bad drive at that point, right?
Didn't me?
Like, he didn't know where?
it was. He kind of went over the trees.
Like, yeah. So that, right, that was
a little bit of the controversy.
There wasn't much controversy, but if you want to find some,
it right, it would be like if he did,
even if you did a little bit of like,
and he snapped it that way, that would not
be replaced. Correct. Right.
Correct. That's what
one of the announcers was trying to work in. Like
it did, since it didn't snap and then
like on the drive and the head didn't go flying,
that's where they were like, well, he leaned on it
so maybe he shouldn't get a new drive.
Right. I would have loved for him to not have a
driver. It would have been such a good, such a good wrinkle into the story. Yeah, yeah. But I mean,
in terms of me, like, the reason I say he handled it well is because then he started,
Emmy played great after that with his new driver instead of melting down. But you are right.
It was all camera. It's all, if it's under his terms, he's happy. If it doesn't show him in a way,
he wants to be shown, he's a, he's a lunatic. So, uh, so he broke his driver. That was funny.
Uh, Shane Lowry broke a club over his, his, uh, thigh. That was amazing where he just, uh, he just,
he just did the Patrick Reed, which is what we saw at the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach, where he's just in the rough,
hits the shy as like, looks around real quick and just breaks it right over, right over his thigh.
Has to hurt. I think we've tried that before. It hurts. I mean, it doesn't hurt a guy like Shane Lowry.
I love that guy. Just a big old Irish brute. He's just out there. He's got his big beard. He's on the
heavier side. I bet I bet he didn't even feel that club over his leg. I mean, he's like me.
Like if I broke a club over my leg, my leg wouldn't feel it.
I don't think.
I think I'd be totally fine.
Shane Lowry and I were cut from the same cloth.
I just like I like Shane Lowry a lot.
He seems like a jolly old fella.
Obviously, he was frustrated this week.
But like watching somebody snap a club over their leg,
that's going to make me like you instantly.
Yeah.
And it was another one of those moments where it was very, very relatable.
Because you're thinking the jolly old Irish fella,
he's never going to snap and lose his mind and break a club.
But even him, even who just...
just like he likes Gennis and like being Irish and him losing his mind and breaking a club over
his leg makes us all feel a little better about how frustrated we get over golf. I mean,
he's the reigning fucking British Open champion. So you wouldn't think that he would get that
frustrated by anything yet here he's breaking clubs. So that made me feel better about myself.
Ricky Fowler missed. He whiffed on a tap-in, which cost him the cut. That was shocking. You don't
see those, especially in a major championship.
He dubbed a put.
I mean, it was, those guys are very diligent about those, too.
They usually mark them and they, they kind of like square up.
And usually they take, like, longer than I feel like they should take.
Let's go, man, finish it up.
Just, it's a six-inch butt.
He just whiffed.
I mean, missed them all.
Collin Moracow was born 64 days prior to Tiger Woods' 1997 Masters win.
Wow.
So when Tiger was putting on that green jacket in 97,
a little mini Moracow was just born 64 days before that.
And then fucking 23 years later.
Yep.
Good job, Frankie.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Kisner finished tied for 19th.
So not in the T20 range.
Tide for 19th.
Had a great week, actually, considering all the bombers, everyone's talking about how the bombers kind of funneled their way towards the top at the end.
Kiz is not a bomber.
That's well documented.
Had himself a good ass week.
He finished tied for 19th.
He posted 500 bar for the week, which is very good.
And then outside of the PGA championship, the people's women's golfer, Daniel Kang, won back to back on the LPGA tour.
So they kicked started.
They got things going recently.
And she won last week, played great.
And then today, which is a few hours ago, she was playing Lydia Coe, who everybody's, she's kind of the Jordan Speefe of the LPGA tour where she's fired caddies and swing coaches, changed her swing.
You know, she was like 17 years old.
She was the best player in the world.
and she hasn't won in a couple years.
She had a five-shot lead with six holes to play.
She had a one-stroke lead on the par five, 18th hole,
was Greenside in two and made double.
So she made a seven to lose the tournament,
and Danielle Kang won by one shot.
So I haven't seen the replay that,
but that is, I don't want to end on a negative note
because we're here to kind of celebrate
the people's women's golfer, Danielle Kane,
who's cool as fuck, winning back-to-back tournaments,
so good for her.
But kind of a crazy finish on the,
LPGA tour and then outside of that I think we've been going for two fucking hours so that's
pretty much all I got thank kids won 143 grand at 19 I was just trying to I was just trying to
look it up too I saw 134 Mark how 1.9 1.9 million that's a good week I mean just imagine
being him right now he's just sitting wherever they're at in the heart in San Francisco like
I'm on top of the world I'm on top of the world I'm 23 I just won my first major I've won as many
majors as I've missed cuts and like I'm unstoppable I think they said since he turned pro 14 months
ago he's made somewhere around seven million dollars like yeah awesome it's good to be yeah it's good to be
colmore cow speaking about being on top of the world I went to see the golden gate bridge last night
couldn't see a fucking thing I saw that picture that was foggiest fuck right I drove all there was 25
minutes out of my way drove over there I was all excited I got like five minutes out and I looked around
I was like, I'm not able to see anything.
You see those pictures of like people in that little,
I think Bryson was actually down there with his Bentley.
Like there's like a little park that you just see the Golden Gate Bridge perfectly.
I know.
Well, it was there was,
it was just a giant cloud of fogs.
You couldn't see anything.
And so that's,
that's it.
I just tried to see the goal.
I could see like one pillar,
you know,
that goes into the water.
That was it.
Yeah,
before we go,
a couple reminders,
birthday coming up on Thursday.
If anyone wants.
This has been a long show.
I thought you talked about that like two weeks ago.
That was two shows ago.
You know, actually, like, when we were like an hour and 45 minutes into this show,
I was like, man, I really didn't have to say that birthday thing that early
because I didn't realize how much we'd be talking on this show.
I could have saved it for now.
I mean, I talked about it.
That's the first thing I said today.
And then also, number two, the New York Islanders advanced to the playoffs.
we beat the Florida Panthers.
It's not a hockey podcast,
but it would be remiss to not mention my team
who is advancing.
We're playing the Capitol,
so I got the Nate Dog and PFT in my fucking,
in my phone,
coming right at me 100 miles an hour.
Nate Dogg's already texting me,
asking me what I'm doing,
if we're deleting any Nooners coming up on the Sunday,
the Sunday 12 o'clock game.
So yeah, that would be fun.
And then the Rangers lost.
So Shada, I know Lurch isn't here to defend himself,
but King Henrik will probably finish his Rangers career
without winning anything in his entire career.
The Blues haven't won a fucking hockey game since coming back, so that's great.
Blue's haven't won a hockey game.
They're sliding into the playoffs.
Islanders are coming in hot, so it'll be a good series.
Rangers haven't won anything in 20-something years,
and they just continue to not win anything for 20-something year.
And that's it.
Look out for the streams.
We're still streaming PGA, the golf club 2019.
The new game's coming out.
I think we're actually getting early access.
we may be able to stream that.
We are getting airy access.
So people, yeah, keep your eyes and ears peeled for that.
Check out the streams.
Big thanks to Jake Bass and Brendan Jones,
who produce our show and produce our videos.
Shout out to those guys.
Lurch should be back on Thursday for the second show of the week,
as will we.
So we got Barstall Classic in Boston tomorrow.
It'll be a good time.
That's all I got.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
Yeah, if you're someone that belongs to, like,
National Golf Links of America or something like that,
and someone's birthday is coming up.
up on this weekend.
Maybe you reach out to like a birthday guy.
Your third birthday conversation.
Maybe you reach out to someone who's birthday.
You know, Frankie's fucking bucket list golf course is National Golf Lings of America.
Maybe someone gets him out there with a buddy or two and he has a time of his life, you know,
I don't know.
Maybe this is the Shinnecock invite.
Maybe this is where you get a Shinnecock invite.
That would be great, man.
You know, I'm just out here on Long Island.
I'm just out here, Trent.
I'm out here just chilling.
Sorry.
Are you done, birthday boy?
I'm done.
See ya.
