Fore Play - PGA Tour Draws A Line In The Sand

Episode Date: May 12, 2022

The Tour denies players exemptions to play in the first LIV Golf event. Rangers losses turn Frankie on. Scheffler bedazzles in practice rounds at Southern Hills. Rory is trending. Tom Brady gets an enormous broadcasting contract. We discuss the most beautiful places we’ve ever seen.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For Play, I'm at Barstool Sports. We are back for our second show of the week. My first topic, it just says Rangers suck is what I wrote on the outline. Honestly, can't even say anything about it. They look like they're stuck in mud. They're a horrible hockey team.

I watched that game and just got fucking hard as a rock. Tell me you bet on the Rangers to win, too. Oh, my God, I bet on the Rangers to win. I'm responsible to losing so much money on the Rangers. That is a responsible gamble. Honestly, that's the most responsible gamble of all time, because you're just even your body out. Also, Jay, I forgot to record for that little moan, so that might come in as, as computer as in the beginning.

But I will say this. I didn't say this on the last recording. I have been betting the New York Rangers. This is something I've been doing. I feel like I'm buying losses. And I don't know if anyone else has ever done this, but it's essentially hedging your unhappiness where I know that if the New York Rangers go on this miracle, unbelievable run, I'm going to be the most sad person on the planet.

I'm going to be a sad little boy. I'm going to be sitting there pouting and stomping my feet and crying and, wow, the Rangers are so bad. I'm going to be so mad. But the other side is like, what if I just happen to just make like 10 grand on this run? What if I itemize each game where it's like, I'll bet $250 on game one and $500 on game two? And I'll just keep going until if they continue to win games, I'm going to continue to make money. So for me, even when they lose and I lose, I feel like I bought the win last night.

There was a feeling where I felt like I made a purchase. And I'm like, you know what, that's the greatest purchase I've ever made, like a 7-2 win in Pittsburgh. Are you going to risk a double here in game five? Are you going to, are you going to? Well, I've now doubled up on winning the series bet. Because like, it's just, if they come back and fucking, you know, you're talking percentages here. There's been, I think the percentage of a team down three ones, like the team that's up three ones like 900 and like 50 or something like that. It's fucking, it's phenomenally bad odds for the Rangers.

I mean, they just look like an HL team. I was, this guy Braun on defense is horrible. Neymouth is bad. they all look slow. The guy, Braun, there was a goal, and he was, he didn't, he didn't stop and start once. He just did a bunch of turns, and then they just went around them and score. It was one of the worst defensive plays of all time. I actually wanted to tweet out, 601s doing periwettes out there, but I couldn't, for the

life of me, figure out how to spell that word, so I just quit the tweet. I have no idea how to spell parolet. Pirouette. Yeah, I don't think you know how to say it either. Yeah, I think that's probably, probably part of the problem. It's Frankie How do you spell it? Do you know how to spell it?

No, I don't know how to spell it. Piroet. I wouldn't even know. I mean, I'd know where to start, but I wouldn't know to go right after that. Give me your first three letters. That's what I could. P-Y-R?

But you couldn't figure it out for a tweet. You couldn't like be resourceful for a tweet? I was honestly so mad. And I was just like, nobody's going to get the context either. So just, you know. I'm surprised that's cross your mind.

Right. That's interesting. I had a moment like that. I had a podcast moment off the podcast today with my buddy Kyle was talking about a situation or something. I forgot how that came up, but I was trying to say, I said, yeah,

these guys have all Eliases. And I kept going. I'm like, Elias is, you know, and, you know, he stopped me mid-conversation.

He's like, did you mean aliases? And I was like, I think so. But I must have said Elias is two or three times in a group of people. people, like to a group of people. And Eliasus is probably the worst one I've ever done. It sounded like some character from Hercules.

Have you been saying it out for a while? Have you been saying it that way your whole life too? Yeah, because Elias is for sure sounds right off the tongue. And I know I haven't said that word. Like it feels new off the tongue. Elias definitely is something that it feels fresh. Let me just say that. Elias has definitely came off right off the rip.

Just off the bat, crack single to left field, no problems. Round in first base, undoing the fucking batting gloves. You've been doing Eliases. You've been saying Elias. Elias has been in my fucking book. Elias for sure feels new. But yeah, no, the Rangers got their fucking dick stomped on. They got fed it raw, real dry.

And it is what it is. And if they come back and win, I'll be a dead person. But things are looking good, you know. It's just, it's fun time to be a hockey fan. I will give a little context We're recording Tuesday night There's a lot of travel going on So recording Tuesday night

So if things have changed Rangers are playing Wednesday night Is that right Lurge? That is It doesn't appear that they will But if they It feels like there's no hope For a Friday game

Might be worse Well they're playing at home So they're a bunch of better home team Have you seen them move around the ice It looks like they're in quicksand I mean they haven't won one puck battle They just I mean we're joking around

It feels like it's like Thursday night skate with your boys and you're just like nobody's getting injured out here now we're just gonna kind of you know throw pucks in the net nobody's gonna back check and yeah we'll just you know we'll just if somebody wins nine seven somebody wins nine seven i mean it's some of the worst hockey i've ever seen i watched the whole third period completely naked were you touching yourself just oh yes from time to time like my hands got below my hips i mean there's no doubt about it so yeah i was just sitting there be like this is awesome Ice cold bowl of ice cream, briars, mint chocolate chip.

Just right on my chest, freezing my chest. Just naked as a mole rat. Sounds right. I mean, yeah, celebrate. I mean, they are horrible. That's all I have. It's all I have. Yeah, Barry Trouts is gone.

Yep. Blues. Blues are two, too. But again, we're recording Tuesday night. People are listening on Thursday. It could be three, two. It will be three, two, unless there's an unbelievably long overtime, one way or the other. But yeah, Rangers, boy, oh boy, I bet them last night too,

and I did not feel good about that. 7-2 was the final, I think. So we're at LaBers Casino, beautiful Lake Charles. We're down there with the whole Borsesville Classic Squad, and we get a nice dinner set up at Ember Steak House, and they got the Ranger game on. We got this kind of like side private room. They got the only TV that's in there, it's right in our face.

Rangers, it's 1-1, and the boys, Mancini and Zach are like, we bet the Rangers live it's 1-1 like awesome I jump on it bang bang bang the penguins just score score score score so then I'm like chasing I'm like well if I thought they were going to win a minute ago now I think they're still going to win but I get really good odds put more on it just bang and pexter scores like two more goals it's like six to two I'm like what the fuck is going on here so that team's just an awful hockey team whatever they're doing so we set up we had a great night ahead my brother just got an outdoor TV, outdoor fireplace, invited friends over. Frankie's literally jerking off.

His clothes are going to start to come off real soon. I fucking love this. I always think about how much money people spend to go to the garden and they're with their dads. I love the whole thing. Just like leaving all upset. Oh, it makes me hard, too. Listen to my voice, Frankie. You might come right now.

So anyways, we have a big group. somebody brings over this is his wet dream we've just got like we got burgers going beers everybody's happy rangers hot start and then then the wheels fall up then it's like one of the worst hockey games ever where people are just like

I'm just like adamant like just shitting on the hockey team being like nobody cares so like galant said soft all over the ice totally agree so in the second they get down 4-1 and then they get a goal to go back 4-2 with like two and a half

minutes left to go in the second period. And I'm like, all right, maybe if we can sneak this out or two-go-le-le-e going to the third. No, no, no. They go bang-bang in the last 90 seconds to go six-to. And then, honestly, just blow the whole thing up. So that ruined the whole night, obviously. People were depressed. And then we watched, we had the audacity to watch post-game with Hank, Valicette.

And, I mean, those guys were near tears. I mean, Hank was like, it's just, it was a sad, it was a bad effort, real, like, just a somber mood. So, yeah, have a ball, Frankie. Awesome. It is what it's Igor. He's gotten pulled two nights in a row. The prince that was I can't really blame him though, man. I like he's still, I mean. Yeah, but when you do this in the, in, uh, totally, totally games left in the regular season to the penguins and like they come back and kick you and like you're 100% without question. In period three, back to back game. Awful stuff. Oh my God. It's, that's what like curses are made out of. You know, it's like the little

gobble-gobble-goblenk. You don't do that. Regular season just couldn't mean less, honestly. You're going to do that to Sidney Crosby. He's treating our team like a bunch of children. Sidney Crosby has six straight multi-point games in the playoffs against the Rangers. I mean, think about that's that. How hard it is to get points in playoff games. It's always tough. It's always tough when these teams draw the penguins, especially in years when the penguins aren't touted as being as good as they've been, because they still have it. Like, Mollinger. is still just scoring. He's injured.

He's not a factor ever in the playoffs start, and he's scoring. Sidney Crosby is the best player of the last 20 years, and it's not close. How good that guy is, how many could. And now you just have to go up against those guys in the playoffs. I mean, of course, they're going to fucking score goals. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's dominating our team. That line is absolutely dominant.

Gensel has five or six goals in the playoffs. That guy scores all the time. I mean, like somebody said it. It was like, they're giving Crosby so much attention, which they have to. but it's not like he's like scoring, but he's dominating the ice and passing, and there's just so many open areas. It's really, I mean, it's a humbling game.

I mean, hopefully the youngsters on the team get taught a little bit of a lesson were better. It doesn't feel like this year is going to pan out for us. Maybe there's some heroics, but honestly, I saw there there was like a tweet of them skating and hustling around the ice. I was like, how about we give the boys a day off? Because they look as slow as a hockey team could ever be.

I mean, anyways, it is what it is, but we're going down. Well, congratulations to Frankie. I know this has been one of his more enjoyable segments ever,

and last night it was probably great, and tomorrow night's probably going to be really nice for you too when they go down officially. Much to discuss, much to get to. Greg Norman has done another interview where he was yet pressed against some Scotty Sheffler, some Roy McRoy.

I want to talk about this Tom Brady deal, what it could mean for broadcasting and golf going forward, and we got a bunch of from the gallery, from the fans out there. We can talk about Celsius first. Celsius helps you stay active and energized all day. The Rangers might need Celsius. You might want to hit them up. Lurch.

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This is what Lurch, Frankie Trent, myself, Jake Bass, Brennan Jones, Alex Bush. Everybody's drinking this stuff. Celsius.com. Find a store near you, order online at Amazon, Walmart, or Tarje. All right. Calamara Calla video. So that has come out now once you are watching this. Incredible, incredibly funny.

Kalamorakaa is such an absolute. savage when it comes to competition. We've discussed all the time, many times. We're so blown away at his maturity, his ability to give these speeches after he won the British Open, how he approaches interviews, how well-rounded he is. And what you really kind of almost forget when you get him in these cool environments, he wore the suit, took Frankie's idea, which Frankie took somebody else, and he wore the suit to Liberty National.

You forget that he's just a competitive, absolute savage who will do anything to win. and when he did win, he was not going to let anybody off the hook when it came to a punishment. Also gave us, oh, no, go ahead. Well, no, I just feel like we're being, or I am being desensitized to how amazing these videos are coming out every single Tuesday. Yeah. It's like, had this been a one-off, it's the only thing we'd be talking about for the last year. If you're like, like, you know, when we were first starting out as a podcast and getting videos and like trying to get our names out there and our brand, if we got a video with Colin Moracawa, who going into this year was the number one,

number one ranked American golfer that we have here in this great state of the United States of America. The guy is legitimately, one of the best studs, and best people that we've like ever been around with a professional, in regards to a professional athlete, he's like not a real person.

He's built from the same cloth as Tiger Woods. We've always said he's got that extra edge. He's got that fucking fire that you can't, you can't just like create. You have to be born. with it. And the fact that we have multiple videos with this guy and tonight we're facing or not tonight. Well, in real time it's coming out tonight. In real time it's coming out tonight. These people have already seen this for two days. But we have a video with this guy. We're facing him in an athletic

challenge on the golf course. Like how are we not screaming this from the rooftops? This is fucking insane. And it's coming out every Tuesday. We have DJ coming up in a few weeks. It's like it's insane what this Taylorman series has done to me, has done to you guys. It's just breaking my brain. I want it to be like breaking news every week, but then like I feel like I'm an asshole. Like, hey, by the way, we have the biggest video coming out of all time this week. It's every week. You do get, uh, I do feel like we've been desensitized to it. And when they do pop up when, when eBug sends out these teasers and these social clips to our group text, I'm like, oh shit, I forgot that we did that.

I forgot that that's coming out. I need to be focused. I do drop everything up. I can't even hang out with my friends. I have to go tell the internet about this fucking video that we're doing with these stars. mega stars. I mean, when, when, we got a golfer that was, you know, Ali Schneiderjans we got, you know, in our first couple weeks of doing the podcast. And we, yeah, we and Trent were fistp up and we were like, fuck yeah, let's go.

We're doing a video with Colin Moracawa. What? Where he's playing us like, like, you said, in a legitimate physical golf competition on a golf course with a punishment that is laugh out loud funny and that brings out kind of a menacing side of one of the biggest names in the world of golf. It is like we should be shouting it from the internet rooftops at every second. This is what we set out to do. This is what, this is beyond what we ever could have imagined.

But, you know, we wanted to showcase these guys personalities off of the golf course or even if they still are on the golf course outside of the ropes and the traditional confines of being inside the ropes, the PGA tour. We're to showcase what they're like. We want to showcase these guys for an hour,

30 minutes, whatever it is, can hang out with relatively, normal human beings like us and actually showcase who they really are what they're like what they like to talk about what kind of jabs they like to throw how they handle kind of adversity outside of golf but in other shit in life and in conversation and everything else and here we are just rolling out another one with Kyle Moore Kyle it's fucking unbelievable when you really he himself has been promoing this video which has been a delight to see he put on his Instagram story said I love

these guys which is one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about us or to us or about us. And then on Twitter, he called it must watch, which, you know, I know, I'm, I feel like I'm from an older school of the internet. I've been on the internet forever now in terms of having a job with the internet. Putting a must watch on something is a big deal. And I believe that Colin Corwin knows that. It is a big deal. And he's, it is a must watch video for a couple of reasons. But the end of it is is as must watch as you can get. So I'm very excited for people to see it. As they listen to this, they've already seen it, hopefully. Yeah.

But if they haven't, go watch it because it's that good. Yeah, it's so good. And I mean, we also lucked out with the ending because at one point it was going to be the dunk tank, which would have been great, would have been fun. But this ending was so much better because it brought out the competitive nature and Colin, a little bit of like psycho behavior. And then you two idiots banscing around in like a golf cart, like pickup ball machine stumbling around.

And we all got to just like, you know, basically like, like shank hood balls at you to try to just try to knock you out. So it was an epic outcome and thank God a tailor made for like honestly setting it up and helping a problem solve and figure it out a good solution. There was a part two when it was over when Colin was just hooting balls at you two clowns in this golf cart where, you know, Lurch and I were just kind of standing there laughing and like school children just laughing at the scene in front of us. And Colin like looked at us.

It was like, get over here. Let's go. So then me and Lurch got to just, we were like us like the. us two? Are you sure? He's like, yep, get over here. Get a club. We're like, all right. So then he's like, I want you guys to rip and balls with these guys. Players only. You know what I mean? That was like a player's only range. That's where they were doing like Rory shots and then, you know, DJ and Colin. So I was like, I don't know if we're like, this was ground that pretty much we said like, you can't go to. So it threw us off when he was like, no, you guys can. And then it just trumps

everybody else. It was that we like went over the boundary for a second. And you weren't, the whole week you'd go kind of do whatever we want, except you kick over this. boundary. This is only where the real people that are actually supposed to be here get to go, aka Roy MacGroy, Collinmore, Kyle, and Dustin Johnson, Matt Wolfe. And like, now you guys are being motioned to go over there by Colin Moore, Kyle himself. We're like, okay. And then it turned into just a wild scene.

So awesome video. Our YouTube page, boy, is it just really cool that we get to do that stuff. So shout out to Colin being just an awesome dude, by the way. Awesome. Is desensitize only about cruelty or horrifying images? Like when you become desensit. sensitized or can it be to something? You can be desensitized to anything.

You could be desensitized even to like food, right? And that kind of, right? Like, or desensitized to other senses, I would feel like. I guess I looked up the official description, in the dictionary. I looked up the definition. Definition. I have the Eliases, you know, my Elias is perfect. really the description

I like the description I got the description of the description of the worst looked up the fictional description in the dictionary what do you call that? Webster's anyway it said something to do with that you're being desensitized to

to something of like horror or like cruelty oh wow yeah I know I think you can use it positively or negatively I think if you used it in either scenario people would totally understand what you're talking about okay I'm going to tweet that

that's why I want to let you guys know That's good. Yeah, you can go ahead and tweet that. That's a good one. All right. A few topics to get to, and then I want to get to a bunch of from the galleries. First of all, just a little tidbit I saw came across my radar there. Scotty Schafebord went lit up Southern Hills in a practice round.

Cameron Chim, I believe, C-H-H-H-H-H-I-M, the assistant pro there. I hope I'm not misproncing that. If I am, I apologize. I'm stupid. Double H. No, you don't see that all the time. No, you don't see that all the time. No, you don't.

Caddied for Scotty Sheffler and Ryan Palmer. He played one ball the entire time, no practice putts and made it look easy. He told Golf Oklahoma. He's number one of the world, and it was pretty easy to see why. It would be hard to say that he's not going to win, or at least be in contention. He hits it far enough, and he has just incredible distance control with his irons. Ryan Palmer shot two or three under and looked like he was standing still based on how Scottie was playing. So my question is, are we going to go into yet?

another major championship with the writing on the fucking wall in front of us and not all do what we said we were going to do last time and just take Scotty Schafford to win the PGA championship. I'm betting. It's crazy. I'm betting. I'm bet not. I don't care if it doesn't happen.

I can't have it happened twice where we get all these reports or, you know, the master's he was coming off just an incredible run. And in your head, you're thinking there's no way this guy can do it again. I mean, we love Scotty. We had him on the show. We were like, how great is it's going to be for you to play. and the Masters and have an opportunity to win it. But you're thinking, you know, it's rare for someone to go on a run like that in golf

and then win the Masters on top of it. It almost never happens. So we didn't bet it and we were fucking idiots for that. Idiots. Idiots, dude. So hearing these reports, I am going to bet Scotty Shetler. And like I said, I don't even care if he doesn't win it. But I can't have him win and have me not bet it.

That's what I can't have. It's not supposed to be shocking when, when Scottie Sheffler wins a golf event right now. It's supposed to be like, yupp. And if that feeling of yupp happens, how are you not placing your hard-earned money on that guy to win the golf tournament? It's not like some fucking Joe Schmo fucking Zach Johnson

comes out of fucking nowhere and wins the PGA championship. You're like, all right, I never would have done that. I never would have done that. That's insane. I mean, I might as well just fucking lighted on fire or a bet on the range. He's two of them.

He's got two of them, so I mean, it's not a fluke when it's two. Now, now you've got Scotty Shepler where it's like, well, obviously. Yeah, there's too much good information out there right now to not bet on Scottie. How often do you get a well obviously bet in golf? You don't, and that's why we don't. I would argue that's why we didn't bet it before. I know. Because it's like there are no well obviously's in golf.

Are there odds out on this right now? But he's just as close as you can get right now. The guy's literally shocking people with the way he's playing the game. Is he the favorite? No, he's probably not, right? I'm looking right now. I think he is, but I'm, so I'm going to, while Alerts pulls that up, I'm going to rattle off, Scotty Sheffler's most recent finishes on the PGA tour

playing professional golf in case people were not familiar. The waste management, Phoenix Open, first place, Genesis Invitational, tied for seventh. Arnold Palmer Invitational, presented by Master. card first place players championship t 55 world golf championship match play first place master's tournament first place zirut classic of new orleans which is a team event tied for 18th so he is still at that part where i believe he's won four of his last six starts in individual competitions and now he's going into southern hills where the assistant pro double h guy is saying i just don't i don't see how he doesn't win or is in contention. I mean, we got to take this fucking guy. We got to take this guy.

All right. I agree. But if I were to ask you, which I am going to now, we're going to bet him, but do you think he's going to win? Of course, I don't think he's going to win. It's a numbers game. I mean, I see, I'm with you. I'm totally with you. 50 other guys. He can't win every week. I mean, you got to take the field. So John Rom is currently the favorite at plus 1,100. But also not insane. because he just won. J.T. Sheffler and Rory are all plus 1,200. So pretty much kind of a tie for the top.

So he's in the mix. But it is crazy that he's just not the number one got. Like, it's really, it's befuddling. So I've got him on here. Oh, that's the AT&T, Byron Nelson. He's the favorite of the AT&T buyer Nelson. Tell you that much. That's exciting.

Go, Scotty, go. Go, Scotty, go. Yeah, I mean, look, this man is clearly playing great golf. It's nice to hear that he's still playing great golf. It's always cool when you get these assistant pros and all that. I wonder if use golf facts is going to have an issue with these comments coming out. Feels like somebody could have pried information out of the assistant pro at Southern Hills to get some information going into the tournament, which obviously he or she that runs that account doesn't like. So we'll be curious to see if that account weighs in on that.

Speaking of PJ, PJ, sorry, random name associated with that account. Patrick Reed is plus 6,500 to win this year's tournament. Ooh, interesting. I'll say, I don't love him as a PGA championship guy because he sprays the ball, but he's short game sick. I like him more to obviously the Masters, maybe a British Open. I can see him even coming up, coming up. But we're talking PGA championship.

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It's been built for last minute tickets. So right before the game is about to start day of, morning of, there's no better feeling than waking up knowing there's a baseball game in town and being like, you know what, you guys want to go to the baseball game tonight, go to the Yankees game. did this with GameTime recently. It's just like the best feeling to be like, I have something awesome going on tonight.

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He was runner up at last month's Masters. And then last week he made it run. He was only two shots off the lead, two shots behind Max Homa on Sunday at one point. So clearly Rory is playing some good golf. His quote was, I'm playing good, playing really good. And he was very positive. I saw these comments very positive going into his thought, his prospects for the PGA championship. I feel like we've said this since the inception of this show, which was in early 2017.

but you got to think Rory is going to break through and win a big tournament, a major championship. At some point, fucking soon. I mean, it's a, it's a not, are we talking a nine, eight or nine year drought this man is on in major championship? It'll be coming up on eight or eight, yeah, I guess, eight years coming up.

Yeah, I'll bet him too. Sure. If Rory McElroy says that Lurch is shaking his head, which I disagree with, but if he's being like, I'm playing really good, I feel like I don't know if we hear him say it that often. Like I'm playing really, really good.

Then, yeah, sure, I'll put a little on him. I was also thinking, looking at those quotes, this is kind of stupid. But how awesome would it be to be Rory McElroy sometimes? And you can just play golf like that. Like, when you're playing really, when you're Rory, like Rory's a person. He's a person like you, like we are. And sometimes he's got to just think like, it's fucking awesome to be this good. And I know there's guys out there who have been better than Rory at times.

But I think Rory, being Rory sometimes when you're just like, I'm fucking Rory and I'm good at golf. He's just out there on a golf course, hitting greens playing well. There's got to be times where it's like, it's pretty fucking awesome. Dude, the coolest thing in golf.

The coolest thing. Yes. The swing alone. Even if you shanked it, if you could make your body move like that where you like step on a team, you're like, oh, that guy can swing it pretty well.

Kind of like Frankie actually. But then he has the outcomes too. It's got to be off the chance. Thanks. What? Excuse me? Frank, he's got a beautiful looking swing. He just stinks.

Not like Rory Mackel. No, what? What? No problem. I mean, your swing is beautiful. I spent the whole beginning of the show say,

he jerks off to your misery and you hit him with your swing. Looks like Roy McElroy? Thank you. Appreciate that. No, I'm fine with that. I don't need the, you know, shit on people all the time.

You know, I think he's got a good swing. Frankie's got a different mindset that I said. He's got a beautiful looking sweet, but, you know, I mean, there's a limitation to the, you know,

beautiful looking at it is. It is awesome. No, I guess, yeah. I mean, if you were going to put like a negative spin on it, it's got to suck to be, Frankie. It's an honest spin on it. He's got a beautiful swing and he can't hit the golf ball. So like that sucks too. He's kind of trapped inside his own body.

That actually made me think about something the other way with Rory where it's got to be incredibly frustrating sometimes. Infuriating. It has to be infuriating. Like I would actually, I would argue those moments are far more frequent than the times when he's like, man, it's pretty awesome to be Roy right now and how good I am at golf. Seeing those flashes makes the bad golf got to just drive you up a wall. Trent, every Thursday morning when I log on to Twitter and I scroll through Thursday morning of a PGA tour event that Rory's playing, and I feel like I see five tweets where it's like, Roy with another drive, 337 down the middle and then miss the green with a wedge or like a nine iron.

That's got to be in fury. I mean, when you can hit the ball the way, you can hit it and have a swing that is that beautiful, that is 10 billion times more beautiful than anybody's swing on this show. it has to suck to not win every single golf tournament he plays it. Yeah, that's the flip side, I suppose. That's the gift and the curse, as they say. I've always thought, though, just how much fun would it be? Like, when they put on those little clinics and they got a microphone on

or when they're in a practice round, like, when they just swing a golf club, they just know it's going to be perfect. Like, right? Like, when we're swinging, like, there's a chance. It's just a cold shank. Or today I hit four inches behind the ball for the first six. them or you know or i blade the first two and a half or so you know you're trying to get through it every time he swings it's just going to be beautiful and he's pretty much going to flush the golf ball

every time dude even when we went down and saw kisner put on that clinic um where were we at oh it's sage valley and he's just they're just talking through it him and dewey are up there and everything that happens is what they say is going to happen for the most part that is it's unbelievable and i don't I think maybe we don't talk about it enough or maybe we do on this show. But you got to think about how hard golf is for the people who play it. And then these guys are so consistent like that. It's fucking unbelievable. What's the word I'm looking for?

Like if you have a lot of spin on a ball and the wind would not double it, but like, right? Like let's say you hit like a spin would exaggerate it or escalate it. Amplify it? Amplify it. That's the word I was looking for all day to day. Played in the wind, got sunburned like you wouldn't believe. And then every time someone would hit like a little flared out like a fade or like a slice, I'd be like, man, that wind is really escalating that thing.

But it's definitely amplified. Yeah. It sucks when you're right around the right word, but you can't come up with it. Yeah. So Rory, when he plays poorly, it amplifies that feeling. of like misery and and and and being upset because he knows how good he could be as opposed to like if you're just some joe schmo like Zach Johnson you lose you're just like yeah it's just the feeling I have what my mother told me you know I'd never be anything so yeah no that's not how that's not how

is that not how his story worked no that's not how Iowa mothers are at least not and you know I got I got I got a small sample size but it's not what happened to me big baby big huge huge on the on page of the paper. Arguably, arguably the biggest. I talked about that. It's funny when, you know, bar stool is or just our people knowing us has gotten bigger, it feels like, in the last five years or whatever. And I've been talking about the just, I'm not even talking about us. I'm talking about the whole company. But like some people know things. Some people don't. And when I was, I was recently did a couple of chicks in the office live show stops. And we talked about me being a big baby and I'm pretty sure no one in the audience knew it.

And that reaction, when you have it like a live reaction like that to me saying, I was a huge 14 pound baby and they put me on the front of the paper was something that I hadn't experienced in maybe ever, but certainly a long time. People just, they find out that you're a fat baby and it, you know, it changes the vibe in the room. 14 of them. That's fat. It's a lot.

I think I was not 15. I didn't decide. That's like, I know, but. Close to like, close to like dying that fat. Is that like, like are babies allowed to be that fat? True. How much bigger can you get before it's like this isn't going well? I mean, well, I will say I get articles sent to me all the time of, of huge babies that were larger than I.

But I think you can go pretty high. 14. I don't think I was in, I was at any sort of risk. 14 dudes. Huge. That's really big. Rory in an exciting. Tidbit of News is set to play.

So he's obviously going to play the PGA. He's taking a week off. And he's playing four tournaments in a row. He'll play the Memorial, the RBC Canadian Open, where he will be the defending champion because they have not put that tournament on since 2019 pre-pandemic, the U.S. Open and the Travelers Championship. Very excited for our RBC Canadian Open. I'll say that we have actually a lot of Canadian fans.

Number one, they love to let us know that it's really hard to get our merchandise up there because of shipping internationally. So I know there's a lot of them. Number two, they always tell us to come to that event because that's like their crown jewel, obviously for golf, the Canadian Open, all that. And I saw that Rory will be the defending champ there because it hasn't been to 2019.

So I want to make sure, put this in our tickler file, even if we can't go, which we probably can't, I want to make sure that we amplify that event this year. Done. Fucking tweet that shit. We'll be all over because I love our Canadian fan. So I want to make sure that we amplify that thing. I love Canadians.

Canadians are, you know, their sport is hockey. We love hockey. And I just have loved Canadians. I don't love the ones in Ontario or in Toronto specifically. But, you know, most of the good old Canadians, I love their good nature. I like how polite they are and how nice they are and their hair. I like Canadians' hair. I like syrup.

I like all that stuff. Poutine. Poutine. I like Tim Horton. I want to go up to Canada. I want to go to an RBC heritage. I want to go to the Canadian Open one day for sure. I want to go root on Cory Connors.

That would be fun to go like, you know, root for the Canadian boy up there. My favorite golf course I ever played is in Canada. Cabot Cliffs. There you go. And the most beautiful place I've ever seen in my life is in Canada. What's that? Lake Louise, which is right in the Banff area.

They did a bachelor episode. there actually back in the day. Oh, the most beautiful spot I've ever stood in my life, Lake Louise. They've actually done, you know, occasionally they, some of those hockey accounts will tweet out a video of somebody skating on like a sheet of glass lake with mountains and trees in the background. They've done a bunch of those from Lake Louise.

It's just off the charts. How stunning it is. Let's all share the most beautiful place we've ever seen that we've been to. I'll go first. I'll give you guys a couple of minutes to think. about it. If Frankie, you just went gray, bro, when I brought that up, people on YouTube will be able to see it. You, like, reacted. You're trying to think really hard and you went gray like you would just been wasted in Grand Theft Auto. But I'll go first. I'll give you guys some cameras.

The most beautiful place that I've ever seen was on the north shore of Oahu in Hawaii. When I went there, yeah, no, I mean, you guys can have good ones too, but that's mine. And It's, we, me and my buddies after high school, we went there because one of my buddies's families is from Hawaii. So we went and visited them. And we stayed on the beach on the north shore of Oahu in a little place called Haleiva. And our, our stayed in that same area. Really?

Yeah, I agreed. North Shore, Oahu, I was there in January, February. So the waves were ripping. And it is some of the most beautiful coastline in the world. When you look left and it's like you're in Jurassic Park. I mean, it's insane. They filmed parts of Lost out there. Yeah.

Dude. Yeah, right? We're the same. We had a very similar experience, clearly. But it really is like you go there. And I, everybody talks about how beautiful Hawaii is. That's not a secret. But like there are certain parts, the parts that I guess that we went to where you just, you can't believe what you're looking at.

And that was, I have not found. We've been to a lot of great places. Thanks to this podcast. in our job and whatever. But there's something about that, that slice of land, that slice of the planet that is unmatched to me. What's a beautiful place?

What's a called trip? It's a north shore of Oahu, but the place that I stayed in was called Haleiva. How cool do you feel that you know all those words and names of the place? Did you do that little hike up the trail? Like there's this small little high in Haleiva that you get a whole visual of the coastline?

It probably takes 20 minutes. No, we didn't do that, but I did jump off a huge rock. Ooh. Daredevil. You survived? Like, yeah, barely. Like, the one I did when I was in Georgia with J.T. But, like, four or five times taller.

Whoa. Four, five times bigger. Dude, it was. It was big. I was scared. It's beautiful out there, though. Like, we had one day that was, like, misting over the mountains. And so you had this, like, low fog.

And it literally felt like we're, In Jurassic Park, it was epic. That's where I went spearfishing. No way. Yeah. I don't have very good at it, but it's hard. You're underwater, and you put the elastic band around your arm, and you let it go, and it, phew. That was horrible at it.

But that's my answer. All right. I do have breaking news, but I don't want to interrupt this segment. How big breaking news is we talking? Really super big. Do we want to get to Frankie and Lurch's favorite places in the world, or do we want to talk about the breaking news? You don't want to know Riggs's? I thought he said his.

I began the whole thing, Lake Louise. Oh, that's right. I'll just rattle mine off real quick. I have three of them, so I'm not going to play your dumb game. Oh, my God. One of them. Well, I just can't choose between things because they're all. So say three of them and then we're going to cut out.

We're going to have Jake cut out. Well, one of them is horseshoe bend. It's one of the things to see when you go to the Grand Canyon. It's fucking just the most ridiculous. You see the river going around this bend. you get to go right off the edge and actually my tour guide held which I hope he's still not in business

he held my hoodie and let me lean over and if he just let's go on that's terrified I mean come on what do you that can't be the employee handbook that's got to be the thing you can't do in the employee handbook bro people out there were like on ledges playing guitars it was fucking

neurotic what people were doing and then on the other neurotic psychotic um so the other side of that. That's the desert. The top of the Rocky Mountains, I was at the top of Keystone Mountain,

I believe it was, and just looking out at like, you're on top of the world. And I'd never once felt like I literally was in the heavens. Looking out, you see the tips of all, basically a Coors Light can. You're at the top of it. And you're just like, no way are my eyes real right now.

Like, you're just taking pictures the whole fucking time. Like, no fucking way, dude. So yeah, those two. And then probably Pebble Beach. walking up the fifth fairway and sixth fairway. Just nuts. How can it be better than standing on the sixth green at Pebble Beach and looking around? You know what I mean?

It's fair. The highest part of the golf course is looking around just being like, what is this spot? It's almost the whole thing, that whole conversation almost reminds me of like when people to ask you to compare a certain level of a golf course where it's like, it's awesome. You know, it's awesome. I don't. It's just reached a tier that's just. really super awesome, but I don't know how else to decipher between them.

Right. There's a couple locations. Like, when we were in Tasmania, and I think you walk up to that par three T-box. Yeah, like the fourth hole or something on Lost Farm, I think. It's like the most beautiful thing in the world, and how do you compare that to pebble to like, and the four of us schmucks have been all over the globe playing the most elite golf courses in the world and the visuals that you get, because I was thinking the ninth hole. Cruden Bay, which I hope all of us get to.

I think it's the number one T-box and all of Scott. It's absolutely incredible the visuals you get. You take like a five-minute walk and then you're at the top of it. Just to duck hook one into whatever. Yeah, just to lose the golf ball. That's the psychotic part about golf is like it's the most beautiful place ever. You're like, look at this. Let's take a photo.

And then you just go up and like unathletically shit your pants and just like embarrass yourself and curse yourself. It's like the most beautiful thing. thing and then also just the most train wreck disgusting shit of all time. I would argue that knocks it down a few points in my eyes. Like when we're talking about most beautiful place in the world, like you talked about Pebble and you are right. But my first one was Hawaii. I probably the reason it didn't jump right to Pebble was because I just, you put, you just put

one in the water four times. But golf courses have the best real estate on the planet. You like can't get that type of grass going right up to the cliff anywhere else. Like if you do that as a regular. citizen, you're like risking your life. You know what I mean? Like if you ever walk to the edge of a cliff like you do on Pebble Beach, whole number six, in just like your jeans in a hoodie, like, and you're just like wandering around earth and you're that high over a cliff. Like someone's like, what's that guy doing over there? But for some reason in golf, it's except you're supposed to like

take an athletic swing there and like hit golf balls at 120 miles an hour. So like at the end of the day. It's crazy the places you get to rest your feet on this earth on golf courses. It's like you get to go to the edge. It's crazy. I thought you were going to have a finishing comment on the edge. I got pretty big. It's pretty big news. I just go to the news. No, well, hold on. I like this. Tunk Lake Maine is my number one. So it's just a fantastic lake in the middle of nowhere.

How big is this news? I really like this moment in time right now. Sorry, Lachia. I didn't mean to step on Maine. We're living in a moment where we don't know. Right. And the information's out there. And actually the world knows it.

Why am I turning great? I actually, I get a moment like this is so far and few between for me because, I mean, and for you guys, because we're on Twitter. And as soon as something happens, I just know. And I've known ever since I've been on Twitter. So these last five to ten minutes have actually been kind of nice because in the back of my head, I'm thinking something's happened in the world that I just don't know about. And that's a little bit exciting to me.

So, Amon Lynch tweeted out. And we're going to talk about... Amen Lynch is dead. Like, oh, no! No, that would be devastating. I wouldn't have...

I wouldn't have teased it like that. Gosh. We like Aiman Lynch. That would have been... Although it would have been fucking hilarious if I would have been like, yeah, Amon's dead.

He would have loved what? I know. You know what? Promise to A. So when he dies, we'll release it just like that. And I think he'll respect that. We'll do the same exact format.

Just like, hey, you guys want this news? You want to talk about your favorite, you know, fucking color on the rainbow. All right. Amen Lynch tweets out, the PGA Tour denies players permission to play in the Saudi-funded event next month. And then the article goes on to say, PGA Tours denied its members' permission to play. The denials were sent to players who had sought permission late Tuesday afternoon. It had been expected that the PGA tour would grant waivers for the, live golf invitational event near London because of a precedent allowing players limited releases

for overseas events. All members are required to seek a conflicting event released to compete in non-tore events. This is from Eamon Lynch's piece on Golf Week. However, it is thought the decision is based on a belief that the event in the UK is effectively part of a rival series Live Golf, which is funded by the Saudi Arabian regime, has announced a schedule of eight tournaments. So they have denied. And there were, I believe the numbers that Greg Norman has thrown out is 19 of the top 100 in the world.

I think 30-something of the top 150 ranked players in the world had enlisted to try to play in this event. All of them that are members of the PGA tour are denied and are not allowed to. So things are coming to a head significantly quicker than maybe we would have thought. Yeah, that's what we call a line in the sand. That is that you just, now we know because we didn't really know. We kind of knew what was maybe going to happen. But I guess if you had asked us, you know, 15 minutes ago before we got the breaking news, was the PJ tour going to grant these waivers?

I think I might have said yes. I think I probably would have said yes. Me too. So for this, for them to be saying, no, you guys can't go play there. That's very interesting. and a little bit surprising. So I, like, I don't know where does, where do those players go now? Like, what do they, I mean, what are they going to decide to do?

And what does now the Live Golf League do? Because now their legs are almost completely cut out from under them with, in terms of PJ Tour. What are the repercussions if they play in the Live? I think they, like, forfeit their membership. I mean, give away their card. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Now, you got to think that this was in the back of every guy's mind when they're,

name was associated with live, right? I mean, the odds were probably like 50-50 chance that they were going to allow it or not allow it. So it's not like it's going to come to any shock to a guy like Sergio Garcia. The PGA tour is not allowing him to withhold his status as a PGA tour member when he literally berated a fucking rules official saying, I cannot wait to never see you again and be off this tour and never have to deal with this bullshit ever again. You think he's going to be like, I don't get to play in the Wells Fargo next year.

It's like, no, I mean, he literally told the guy like kiss his fucking dick. I'll see you later. I think he is going to react like that. Really? Well, yeah, just because I don't think that was like a rational reaction. I think he was just like, I can't wait to leave this tour, blah, blah, blah. I think he's going to be rattled at the tour's like, yeah, if you go play in that event, like, see you later. Because he's only going to play in eight.

So he's only going to play in potentially eight events now all year long and not have access to any PJ tour events. I think he'd be rattled about that. Yeah, I mean, we've been talking about this for so many months with that idea. Like, they're just going to play in. this eight event thing make a ton more a ton of money much more than they'd ever make on the pga tour and then probably be able to play in the majors because they're like individual entities right as opposed to from the pGA tour like you maybe still playing the u.s open you can still play in the masters still playing the british open like i think this was some this is not shocking news to me

that's all i'm saying that's my opinion i think it's very it's definitely it's not like it was uh not an option but i think that you know the tour was it was rumored that the tour was going to ban players basically for the PJ tour if they play. Jay Monaghan was asked directly in this players championship interviews. Like, are you going to ban players? And he never said yes. He was very much kind of beat around the bushy on like, you know,

we'll evaluate and we'll do this and we'll do that. And Greg Norman has phrased everything as, no, we're not a rival. Like we're adding, we're a supplement to other, you know, to all these golfers options and we're doing the events when there's, you know,

and so I don't think, that it's, I wouldn't say it's like shocking. Oh my God, I can't believe it. I would say it's, huge news in that this is now going to lead to a very clear, I think dominoes are going to fall of who's going, who's not very, very quickly now because the tour has drawn the line in the sand like Trent said. Does it lead to, this is, I'm way out of my depth here, but can it lead to lawsuits? Like, can live, um, sue the PJ tour and say, it's essentially like, I don't know if it's a monopoly, but it feels a little bit like a monopoly if you're saying that we are the only game in town. I don't know how that works when it comes to sports leagues. I know

I have a better idea when it comes to business, but I don't know what it means when it comes to sports leagues. Well, they still have the opportunity to like playing others. And it's like a monopoly, I would say is, you know, if there was not allowing anybody else to host a golf tournament. I mean, you can just choose to play in a different league, but it's like they're mutually exclusive. So I don't feel like it could fall under a monopoly, but, you know, I'm not a lawyer, so that could be just way off base. I think the lawsuits are definitely going to happen. I just don't know if they're going to be successful. Yeah, I would say, I would say it'd be more like player to tour level if they signed up for anything and like didn't know the like repercussions from that and, you know, they withhold them for too long or something like that. I would say would be more interesting. I think that, yeah, I mean, this is like a play of the PGA tour to be like, we don't want competition.

would maybe be the lawsuit, you know, which is like all players versus the PGA tour, I think, would be kind of interesting of just being like, dude, you can't hold us like hostage here. This is like, up into this point, this was like basically come as you will, PGA tour. We didn't have to play in all the events and we could do other things on the weekend. We could do media things. And all of a sudden you're saying because we're playing elsewhere. Like, they could play on the European tour before. So I think there's, the fallout will be interesting.

and there's much smarter, smarter brains than I that will come up with like, you know, billions of dollars of lawsuits. They could certainly argue that it sets a precedent that you, that they don't want. Like they could, they could, the players could say, you know, yeah, maybe we don't want to play in the Saudi League. That's not the example we want to use,

but we don't want you guys. Like it's, it can be looked at as a power graph in the PJ Tour and having control over what the players can and can't do and where and where they cannot play. And that's something that I would imagine. and players on the tour might be interested in. It's not about playing in a Saudi league.

It's about we don't want to, you guys to set the precedent. That's right, precedent. Say that as many times as possible. That's the word that will, I think, like, I think you're spot on with that. Of like, that point that you're making, I think is 100% accurate of like letting the dominoes fall, if you will. And this is the one that knocks one down and then lawsuits just go crazy. Yeah. And to be clear, I mean, when players play us,

in a four-man scramble, you know, there is an exemption form that needs to be signed and from the tour to allow that to happen. When, you know, Phil and Tiger play in the match, they have to get an exemption from the PGA tour to play, you know, in a broadcast, not on the PGA tour, rah, rah, rah. When they, you know, the players went and played in the Saudi Invitational, they had to get an exemption and the PGA tour put stipulations on. it where they had to play in the AT&T Pebble Beach thing next year, whatever those stipulations were. But, you know, this stipulation of just denied, yeah, is a precedent that the tour made their stance

extremely clear. I think there will obviously be lawsuits. I think there's now going to be, it's big news in the sense that it's going to trigger a lot of things that are going to happen that are just in the golf ecosystem going to be fascinating for the next several, several months. And who knows who's going to go where, who knows how rattled certain people are going to get. This is going to naturally pit people that aren't typically publicly against one another, against one another, right?

Like you're probably going to have, just like when Bryson became so controversial, all of a sudden you had like Matthew Fitzpatrick firing shots at Bryson DeChambo. It's now going to be like Sergio is going to make a comment or about, you know, the live golf tour, about the B. somebody else is going to be in a press conference presented with those comments, be like, what do you think? And then that person's going to fire shots at Sir Joe Garcia Garcia. And it's going to be like, oh, fuck.

We've got, we've got action, boys and girls. We got action. What's going on on Greg Norman's phone right now? Messages. Just an amazing amount of messages. Or did he just take it and just throw it into a body of water? And he is now, no one knows where Greg Norman is. Or someone took his phone from him and no one knows where Greg Norman is.

I mean, how much of a phone? fuck you how much of a like a fuck you from monahan to norman is this decision like a personal you're not going to bully me around like i bet you you you got to think in some i said there's probably 50 50 chance that this was going to happen the whole time but you got to think in some negotiations or conversations norman's like he'll never fucking do that and like probably to hit to like monahan from normie's like you're never going to fucking not grant us the access and then bang he just does it right there just a big f you to greg norman i like i wonder how much of that is personal

it's really like who has the bigger dick leading these fucking leagues right now who's gonna like who's gonna give in who's not gonna give in who's gonna steal the other players it's like a fucking game of chess i think it's just like a brand protection i don't know i mean it'd be interesting if something came out that was like they had got beef but i don't think i think it's just protecting the pga tour shield through and through and that's like that's his number one job um but i mean to trance point i mean there could just be like like Saudi WebEx must join right now and that's just like that's what Norman's on for the rest of

the night you know it's just yeah it's uh you know like to Frankie's point I'm sure they were prepared for this I'm sure they had you know legal steps set up that they're now going to pursue and it'll be interesting to see how it it shakes down what a court case that will be supreme I should go to the Supreme Court, you know. The players versus the PGA tour. Be right after Roe v. Wade, all those discussions. It'll just be like, how can we get these golfers, you know, in the right, in the right money-making machines

that they can get the ball in the hole? It's fucking wild times right now. Where can we allow them to make the most millions of dollars? It's fucking wild world right now. These fucking golfers are finding themselves in. Well, speaking of these golfers, we were talking about two guys already, Rory Macroy and Scottie Shephyffler,

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tailor made dot com go check them out great great tools they got there yeah the dominoes are about to fall fireworks are going to happen i'm We're going to get more statements. We're going to go kinds of stuff. We're going to see players, I'm sure, make statements. It should be, it's going to be, I imagine, a little bit like the opposite of when we had everybody pledging their allegiance to the tour. Now we might get some people like, you know, pledging their defecting, you know, that they

are defecting from the PTA door, which will be fun. Do we think anyone will do that? And if we do, what's the over under on the number of guys that do that? Oh, yeah. I think guys are going to do that. I just don't, I just, yeah, I don't know who. I don't know how many. I wonder, here's my question.

What are we going to do? How do we handle it if one of our guys does that? Yeah, I think. All right, boys, hit them hard. I don't know. That's a scenario I had not thought about. I do think Trent's point, though, about the precedent and, like, doing the European tour and, like, I would say the details of the PGA tour's stance on why the Saudi League is a no-go, I'm very interested in to read a little bit more about

of like, what is the particular reason that this tour is a no-fly zone? I think will be pretty interesting because I don't think they'll just hold against it. I think there will be some like foundation that they fall out. I wonder if there's something that says like there, don't they put clauses in some like professional athletes contracts where it's like this, you know, he was suspended because of actions detrimental to the team. Like I would imagine maybe that they're saying if you go over and play in this live tour, then that's an action that's detrimental to the PJ tour and like sort of that's how it goes. That would be the only thing that I could think of.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense, actually. I mean, something like that. Am I a lawyer? I kind of feel like I'm a lawyer this episode. You're the most lawyery guy on the show so far. I used the word precedent. I used it a bunch of times. and I just use actions detrimental to the team.

So it's like where's my, where's the bar exam? Which states can I be a lawyer in it? It's what it feels like. Yeah, Ryan and Ryan, we're going to sign up for, you know, that's, you're our guy.

Feels good. I feel like I'm on a little bit too much of a hot streak that the next sort of lawyer question that comes up, I'm going to completely fumble. You're just a huge baby lawyer. Big baby. Huge. Big baby.

Huge baby. So anyways, big news, breaking news. We'll see how everything unfolds. I want to talk a little bit. And, you know, from the gallery, we can get in from the gallery coming up in a second. But first I want to talk about Tom Brady's contract. So Tom Brady, what a wild couple months. But Tom Brady obviously announced he's going to retire.

Now he's going to unretire. And then it was announced today that he has inked a $375 million, 10,000. year deal with Fox to be an analyst for their football coverage for the NFL coverage. Tom Brady has, you know, never been an analyst ever. He's never been a broadcaster ever. And he's going to make more than anyone else in broadcasting, which is, which is fucking amazing. And I, you know, I know Kirk, Kirk Minahan, who I listen to their show all the time. He brings this point up all the time on football.

Like, I don't know that the. does who's broadcasting or analyzing the game matter for, like anybody? Really? I mean, I get that you're going to, you prefer, you know, you prefer certain people and you might chatter about how you like it. But like, is it going to do, are you going to be like, all right, Tom Brady is on the call, so I'm going to turn that game on? Like, are people going to do that?

There must be something there because Tony Romo did it. They paid him a fortune. I mean, like, no for me. Like, I'm just going to watch the Giants game. Trent's going to watch the Iowa game. So, like, but there's got to be. they've got to see a massive ratings bump to effectively pay these people. There's no way that they do.

I can't imagine that they do. Like the only situation I can think of where this is true, and there might be more examples out there. But the T&T MBA crew, the Charles Barkley, Kenny the Jet, Shaq, and Ernie, like that feels like one of the only crews in all of sports where people are like, all right, that's the show that I have to watch

because those guys are so great. right. Tom Brady, like you said, Riggs, not only is he unproven as an analyst or anything like that, but we just don't know what we're going to get with him overall. It seems insane on the face of it. It's a lot of money. And yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like you, you know people are going to tune in for Tom Brady. You just are. I mean, he's Tom fucking Brady. Just like if Michael Jordan was on some sort of post-game coverage or calling a basketball game, you're just going to like, But do you tune into like the hockey post game? That's what I was going to ask. That's what I was going to ask.

Yeah, I actually do. I love the TNT crew. I love biz, our coworker on there. I think they're all amazing. I think, I think, you know, that whole entire crew is just really funny.

I watch all the intermission stuff. I watch the post game stuff. I think the way they mic up the players, like they do stuff that's just different than all the other broadcast. Like Brady might have different interactions with players because he's the greatest quarterback of all time. Maybe he like does things differently. I mean,

it's interesting. We'll see how much like, like how different it's going to be. He seems to be a guy that likes to like change the way people perceive athletes. I mean, he does the match. He's like he's all over the place. I mean, he did man in the arena.

He did the whole Tom Brady documentary himself. Like maybe he's going to do different shit. Like, you know, Biz went to TNT and did different shit and now I watch it. And that's worth whatever contract they gave biz because now I literally turn on that game on Wednesday nights and whenever they're playing. So yeah, I'm definitely a fan of the move.

It's just a fucking a ton of money, which if they have it, who care? I don't know. No, I love those guys, too, the TNT crew both for both sports that we've mentioned are excellent. But I guess, and Frankie, you're, I mean, if a lot of people are doing that, then it's clearly definitely worth it. I just, I would, it would be very difficult for someone to convince me that, and I get maybe the first couple games, first six games of the season or, you know, when Tom Brady first

starts, people will tune in because like, oh shit, I've got to see it's Tom Brady, but for 10 years by year two, I just can't imagine there are people that are like, you know what? I wasn't going to watch the NFL today, but Tom Brady's calling that game at 430. I got to watch that thing. Like, I just can't. I find that so hard to think that that is worth a $375 million difference. So much money. And I just wonder how much of the money is just to have him be a part of your channel.

Yeah. Or like, it's not actually worth dollars from week to week. It's just like that's what he's worth to just have a part of your team for 10 years. I would really. Yeah. And I would be interested to know, like, who were they bidding against? Who was at 365? They were just like, can't quite do it.

And they're like, well, we're going on 375. Because there was a bid. You don't just come up with 375. There had to be. I would be very curious to know where the second highest number is because 375 for a guy, like, when is this even going to start? We don't know. Tom Brady is still playing. He can play for another five years.

Or do you think they sat there and gave him a blank check? They're like, Tom, whenever you're ready, you just write the number on there and you're going to come work for us. And he literally wrote, you know what? It's going to take us. I take $375 million for me to come. And they're like, whoa. I did not think he was going to write that, but we have to cash a check. He has it in his hands now.

He's got the whole routing and account number. It's got to happen. It's a fascinating thing because I've just never seen anything like it. I've never seen a network drop so much money on an unproven talent like that. and something that's not going to kick in for a couple of years or whenever Brady decides to retire officially. So it's very strange. You know what's really strange?

And I mean, they have all the numbers that we don't. But like, I guess I'm seeing what you guys are saying. For the TNT with the hockey guys, that was a brand new acquisition. TNT, ESPN, they bought all the rights from NBC and NBC Sports. And like all those games run like USA Network and all these different channels. And like now they went out, spent a bunch of money on Wayne. Gretz and they got biz and Tocke and all these guys and they will uh and McHugh and like now we have a home to watch primetime nighttime hockey right like now we know TNT's the spot to go it was it was never

like that before you had to go on TSN or whatever with football it's like you know Sunday nights and Monday nights are just those are the games you watch and it's like regardless I guess of who's announcing them like I'm kind of doing the class like me thing where I'm arguing against myself. You're thinking it through. You're thinking it through. Regardless of who's announcing them, you're going to watch the news. Do you put Adam Schaefter in that seat?

And I don't think it changes the ratings. Like I don't. They would argue against that. They would, the ratings would be pretty similar. I don't know. They have to keep making the NFL grow, right? Like there's got to be reasons for why it keeps growing. And like this has to be why.

They're staying relevant. Their announcers are the best players of all time. Tom, Tony Romo was like a great quarterback for the fucking most, for the cow. boys and one of the most famous teams ever. Now he's an analyst. Like there's got to be reasons why they do this stuff. It's just, it's king.

Football is king and they have the formula. They are right and we're wrong. What is the contract again? 37. 10 years, $375 million. And who's this with again? Fox.

Fox. Yeah, because Romo's FACU's. It's 10 years, 175 million. It makes it look like peanuts, dude. But Brady's that much better. Totally. Tony Roman. Is he though?

He's doubly better than Tony Romo. He's never done the... No, no, Donald Brady is just doubly better than Tony Romo. You're talking about on the field. We're talking about him as a person is just doubly better. Everybody knew, no, no, no, no, everybody knew Tony Romo was going to be a great announcer because he, I think at, like, at some point he had done a little bit when the Cowboys got eliminated or something. Like, everybody knew that, or that he was going to be great somehow. And he is great.

I know he's polarizing now and that. That's what happens. But he is actually pretty good at that job. Tom Brady, we have no idea. None. He could be awful. He could be two games in and they're like, he doesn't talk. He doesn't say anything.

You have no idea. No clue. It's just a different aura. Gretzky doesn't talk that much on T&T. And every time he speaks, you're like, that was fucking awesome. Wayne Gretzky just, when Wayne Gretzky talked about the- Rangers goal, the game one should have counted. He did say that.

when he also said that he couldn't make him. He also said, Wayne Gretzky himself is the reason why I got into such a damn argument with people five years ago when I said he couldn't make an NHL roster nowadays. He's the one that said that also. And everyone said, oh, he's just being humble.

He's stupid. He doesn't really say his words. Is Gretzky getting paid the hockey equivalent of $37 million a year? Gretzky's getting paid like $500,000. No, he's making some cash. He's definitely doing well, but he's not making it. a fraction of that time. No, and he's not, but also NHL

pays its best players, 8 million to 11 million dollars. That's what I mean when I say the hockey equivalent. So like when Gretzky gets like, 3 million a year for a show that never existed before when the best player in the league, Sydney Crosby makes 8.7 million. So it's like, come on. Is football 10 times bigger than hockey? I'd have to argue like that's about right, right? I don't know.

I'm surprised he's making 3 million here. I think that's pretty high. That's a good amount of money. it never existed. They have four guys on that show, five guys on the show. Yeah, I don't know. It's fucking,

it's a lot of money. But the NFL makes so much money. But it's not the NFL we're talking about. We're talking about Fox. It would, yeah, so, but the NFL makes so much money for,

for everything that Fox then can charge however many dollars for all the advertising. I mean, they're not showing the fucking dog show. I mean, they're showing NFL. It's like, that's where they're making their cash.

That's who you're, right? There could also be something to do it about, like, the TV deals. And like maybe timing wise, like Fox could get more because more people are watching because of Tom Brady. That 375 could be like an investment towards a new television rights deal. Right.

But you just said more people are watching because of Tom Brady. And also Amazon's like coming in soon. So like maybe they're trying to stick it to be like, all right, maybe people are going to stop watching CBS to go to Amazon? Why not watch Fox? Show me what this looks like in year six is what I want to know. Are they trying to get people away from like red zone? Right. Are they trying to get people to, because like, I'm wondering what, what's, where are they trying to?

Strategic thought that just popped in your brain. It's like, where are they trying to corral these viewers? Are they trying to keep around? Are they trying to be competitive against these other? Is that what they're doing here? It's just like, is that what's driving them? Are they like, let's make people sit here and watch a full game so that they can hear all of Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of all time, arguably the greatest athlete of all the time, just talk about our sport.

And they're just going to watch Fox all game instead of flip over to the Red Zone, Channel 21, or whatever. whatever it is and they're just going to watch all little snippets of the games and not care about he's announcing him? I don't know. Like, is there any scenario where he's so good that this becomes a steal? I would argue probably not. Like, that's almost how you can judge a deal too, right? Like, if it's, if he, if it wasn't 37 million, if it was 10 million and even people then were like, holy shit, that's a lot of money. But then, then he comes in and he is just the best football analyst and people have to hear the football opinions of Tom Brady on Fox.

Then it's like, oh, maybe this is actually a steal. I think at 37.5 million dollars a year, there isn't a performance that he can put on on television that it ends up being an awesome deal for fucking. They crunch the numbers and they figured out that it was fucking worth it. Whether they're adding $40 million in advertising just by having Tom Brady in the booth, then that's the answer. I mean, they crunched the fucking numbers

and he's worth that money. They're not dumb. No, well, maybe. I'd also argue that a large portion of the country hates Tom Brady.

Would you say it's a large portion? I don't think so. Maybe not anymore. That was certainly true when the Patriots were dominant. Yeah, it was more true before he, yeah.

For whatever reason, the Tampa thing almost makes him, yeah. As he kept winning, didn't he just gain the respect of everyone? Maybe in the early days it was like the Belichick, Brady versus everybody. And now, then it just became like, how many can these guys win? I mean, even as a Jets fan at some point, you had to just bow to your master and just be like, it's like you just are the greatest thing we've ever seen ever.

Yeah, there is certainly a degree of that, I guess. Yeah, that it was the Tom Brady hatred was more like the undefeated Patriots team until they lost. Yeah. There's people out there that lived their lives. hating Michael Jordan. It's just such a, it's an unfortunate life to live

because like if you're just, I don't know, the Pacers fan or like a Detroit Pistons fan or it's just, it's tough to like hate that. Like people legitimately, I don't know. Dude, Michael Jordan was a hockey player

for the New York Rangers. You would hate Michael Jordan. Well, he'd be an unsuccessful, way too highly touted. Absolutely fucking nobody guy like Hendr's, who won nothing in his career.

And you've got to remember that when these guys are so dominant, and I agree with what you're saying, Frankie, I take back that a large portion of the country hates Tom Brady. But he is, these guys are beating. We make that a graphic, by the way, Jake. What? That this is a large portion of the country hates Tom Brady. No, come on, don't do that to me.

I think that was true at some point, but it's not true anymore. Yeah, I don't even know what point. That's something he would do to me. That's something that Jake would do to me. I'd be like, I want to slap my asshole. And it'd be like, Frankie wants to slap a slap a lot. ass all in today's foreplay podcast. Please don't put that on.

Yes. You know, I think the point, too, of like, this is just what you do in that business. And clearly their market has figured it out is probably what's right. And, I mean, you know, it makes me think of like when, you know, when band and dunes will, like, give us free lodging and give us a couple free rounds of golf because we're going to, like, promote the reserve. We're like, do this band of dunes need us to promote their reserve?

Like, they're ban it. They don't need us to promote it, but it's like you've got to stay relevant. You got to keep like that's part of the system is like make sure people are still kind of talking about your spot. Make sure people are still kind of interested in like your spot. Make sure you're still throwing some videos out there and throwing some pictures out there. Because even though things are great right now, even though we're booked up for two years, like, we constantly need to make sure we're playing the game with like marketing and with new entities coming through and like plugging it. And they, their system might be like, no, we're not going to necessarily see every single dollar from $375 million in return. But like, we're making a ton of money.

We got to do something with it. And the way that you do something with it is like, make sure that you get news and a big name that comes in there. And like you constantly drive some sort of interest and intrigue to it, even if it doesn't technically like, well, we run every dollar and we don't need to like do that. It's like, well, really, that's just kind of playing the game the right way and making sure that you're kind of like making. making the right moves. And also maybe it might be a risk of like, what if somebody else gets him? And it's not like the football bubble is going to pop in America. That's not, you know what I mean?

So it's the money is going to keep. It's too much money. It's too much money. Charles Barkley doesn't even come close to making this much money. It's just a massive hedge. Like that's just a huge dollar figure. Like, Greg, you're talking about like tea times and stain. I know we're talking about wildly different things.

I know. I'm just trying to. I know. It's just a massive. And I get, I think that is the point. Like the point that you made is the right one. It just feels like this wild hedge on Tom Brady to be like saving Fox football. Like what the fuck?

I mean, you're talking about $40 million a year. I'm sure with like bonuses and all the other crap that might go into it. It's like, Has he agreed to this or is it like a contract that has been offered to him? I think he took it. I think he agreed to it. Did Fox lose someone recently that I'm just forget, like, did Fox lose an analyst that like everyone's going to miss or something? It's almost like in Formula One when like they just announced that a different driver is going to be one of their drivers the following year.

And then one of their two drivers is like, I mean, that's like my car. That's what, like what am I going to drive next year? I think it's like that. Sort of they're just saying like, yeah, no, when he's done, he's just coming here for three. 375 million and whoever's currently there is probably just sitting there today like yeah I mean See you later writing truthfully the writing is on the wall like this one's over you guys aren't going to believe how much Charles Barkley makes as a tn tn t announcer i'm going to say he makes 10 million dollars a year now i'm going to say 50 oh a year 10 million a year i'm going to say he makes like

Seven a year. 1.5. What? Oh, he's going to renew. I mean, he's right. There's the first thing that I read when I looked it up.

It said NBA legend Charles Barkley, quote, cheated out of $100 million. So it's something with like the deal or his agent. Something happened there. But one and a half million for Charles Barkley is, I mean, he should be making 10 times that.

Right. Yeah. It's a stunning number. It's a stunning number. He is, yeah, he's, he's,

he's, I think, Frankie, I think I said this to you one time. I think he might be the number one, like, sports personality of all time. Yeah, he's like, yeah, he's up there. I mean, certainly up there. Depends on, like, how you rank that. There's obviously guys that have made much bigger splashes and have had more impact on, like, but I don't know, he's way up.

I mean, he's definitely top five. I know what you mean. And the internet kind of changed everything, too. But, like, in terms of, like, a guy. Like, Rodman is, like, just as, like, much. of like an impact guy where it's like what the fuck this guy about. I'm talking like post career. Yeah.

Guy who's talking about it. Charles was obviously great as an NBA player. But like if you're talking a guy who's really, really good at his job and is a big personality, I think he's the best. Yeah, he's the best. It's crazy. He's making 1.5. That's fucking stunning. Criminal.

Tom Brady's making way too much money. I'm trying to find out. How much money did Tom Brady and Whitten made? How much money did Tom Brady? How much money did Tom Brady make in his career? It can't be... It can't be that much more than $375 million, is it? No, it can't be, right?

No, that, I mean, that's a lot. To be the greatest quarterback of all time, how much money did he get to literally play the sport? I haven't made that much. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I do that go to. No, I want you guys to guess.

Not Lurch. I'm going to say $420 million. I'm going to say... I'm going to say $275 million $317 million So he's getting paid more cash To talk about the thing

Than to literally be The greatest at the thing What are we talking about here? Fuck this deal This is fucking crazy Who's getting paid on the side For this one Someone's getting cash

I'm seeing Marty Bird type shit here You were so supportive Of this deal at the very beginning Like I got to talk ass with the podcast I guess, you know, that's fucking, you're essentially to do this like it's live. We just talk shit out. It's fucking crazy that they're paying this guy,

37 million a year when he was getting paid fucking less that on average to be the best. Patrick Mahomes current contract, guess what that is? I know, because I remember when these sign. Is it 45 million a year? It's close. 42?

What is it? Yeah, no. Frankie's spot on. It's 10 years, $450 million. So, I mean, like he's arguably like okay the best up and comers so that's the best up and coming contract it's only

a little bit more than just to be a TV analyst feels like when you're sitting when you're sitting in a fox uh like conference room and you're sitting at the table and you're deciding how much how are we going to drag people to our our fucking channel who brings more eyeballs Patrick mahomes on sunday playing the game or tom brady talking about it they literally say it's like it's a coin flip. It's like, what are we talking about? The game is so much more important. If you have Tom Brady talking for a New York Jets versus Miami Dolphins game, no one's watching it, because that game sucks. It's all about the product. If you play the Islanders this year, I mean, the Islanders and the Devils at one point were on like T&T, and I think it was the lowest rated game of the

season. Like, no one watched it, regardless of who was on the fucking broadcast. I mean, it was an unwatchable hockey game. So we were laughing, night how many people are watching Rangers post game with Hank and Dallas? I mean, we were like, we might be the only. It was 1,200 people, like, just angrily watching it and cursing out. My brother said under 1,000. And then, like, we were like, wait, watch for, like, an extra 20 minutes. And we might be the only TV still watching this where they're like,

all right, cut the broadcast. Like, this is just, and we lose a viewer. And I know, devil's advocate is saying, well, Fox has nothing to do with the content or, like, you know, the product on the, field. I get that they don't have any saying that. But fuck, man, don't you, like, find yourself in a situation where you feel lucky you get to, like, film the guys that play the game.

You don't have to spend that much money on the announcers. Like, they could get by doing the same shit with, like, 30 million. I don't know. It seems just like a waste of money. I hate this deal. It's the worst deal fucking ever. It just seems, and again, there's smart people, clearly that, like, I'm sure they're making money, and the network must be making them money.

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They all do kind of the same thing. Yeah, how would you know? Yeah, I guess everything is pre-recorded, I guess, isn't it? Every, every cut that goes to him. No, but I feel like when we're like- No, but I'm not saying pre-recorded. We're saying- Live golf. I understand the question.

I feel like when I was watching Johnny Miller, when it was like a live shot, we were watching it all together that he would call it like appropriately based on their swing motion. But maybe they, that's wrong. That's just a gut feel. Honestly, we're going off of right now. So you're saying like the second they would make contact, he would be like, oh, that's going right? It felt that way. He was also like the most critical guy in the world and kind of funny

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It's all about being around and seeing the most swings to me. Sir Nick could also just be full of shit, the most full of shit. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I don't know if I think right now to me they would all be tied, right? Because like they go to the slow mo and they're like, break it down for us. Colt, what happened? The Colts like, all right, at the top here, this looks good. And then you can really see the elbows start to flare out there.

And then he hits out. right but like Colt already knows the ball went 100 yards right so obviously he's like breaking it down and whereas if you just did just did just showed them random slow-mo swings and we're like where did this ball end up and why do you think it did and they were able to actually call it out and be like oh he got a little underneath it there you know or you got a little bit more to inside and the way back oh it's going to bring it back over the top that's hard to save he's trying to flip it didn't flip it enough oh it's going out to the right and then they showed that was the actual result that'd be that'd be fucking amazing.

Well, I know what we're doing the next time we have Colt on the show. I know for a fact what we're doing. Definitely. You show him five swings and see what we get. That would be really fun. So you show him like the head-on version and then you show him the full swing from like, you got to find a video where it's like, yeah, it's like that head-on version in slow-mo. And then you show him the real-time shot after he makes his call.

Yeah. Yep. Love that. And then you got to see the full swing, but you don't want to see where the ball goes. Yeah. I think that's a really interesting idea. I wonder how good they'd be. I bet they'd probably be pretty good.

There is a chance that they're really good at it. I mean, where do you expand this idea to? Like, do you go to fucking Butch Harmon and be like, I mean, are you worth all, like, being a coach? Like, do you know what's going on with these swings? Like I know Call him out Hey Butch Do you have any idea

What you're doing? He's not going to accept that one Where's this ball go? I know that if you showed me five swings I'd go O for five Correct I think so I wanted If you showed JT

You think John Tillery's up For this challenge? Yes How good are you At knowing Exactly what's wrong With the golf swing That you could watch a guy

In slow motion head on Make contact with the ball Follow through I know exactly where it went Also it has to be a pro too Because like If you have one of our swings they're just so painfully obvious.

It's like, dude, he couldn't hit it left if he tried based on setup. But like, Aurora, can you really tell, like, that minute detail of, like, a high push versus a high draw? No way. No way, dude. Off the contact, it's got to be the same shit. Right. I know. There's just such a minuscule change somewhere in the down swing that made it go from its apex left to its apex right.

Yeah. There's got to be something so... And did they get slow-mo, or is it just like... They can, yeah, they can slow-mo as much they want. Now I'm starting to think I might have a chance. Jesus Christ. Dude, you're going to see the ball come off the club face for a yard. Dude, I...

And I'm not going to put it on JT that he's going to do it and that he would be fantastic at it. But what I do know is that that guy is obsessed with golf. swings. He calls himself a swing junkie. All he does is watch golf swings. All he's done. He talked about it like even when he was still playing. Even when he was like pretty young, he was like, I just loved watching swings. Like I brought up Tiger because when I was down there, it was when Tiger had been spotted at Southern Hills. I was like, oh, this is pretty crazy. People are going nuts. Tigers at Southern Hill. And he was just like ready to talk about, oh, I can see the difference in the Tiger swing now that most people can't see that like what's making it, how he's making it work the way that he is.

So like guys like that, I'm sure there's guys who are just like that, who do TV, who are just out in the world, who are obsessed with the golf swing and they can tell little parts of it that make a difference on where the ball goes. Speaking of that Tiger Woods joke, every time someone says Tiger, I say Woods, this happened to me in real life the other day. I heard this in conversation and I had to call the guy out and be like, what the fuck was that? we're at my buddy you know the guido torpedo he was the fucking police officer for tiger woods

at beth page state park when we were there for the pj championship and then also was there at winged foot and was like giving us all this inside information about where tiger was going to be when he wasn't going to be all this blah blah blah blah blah blah so we're at guido torpedo's house the other day and he's like it's my first time going there and he's showing me all of his memorabilia that he had and he comes up and he goes frank look at this and i'm looking at they call me frank couple of my friends, but he looked at me, I looked at this thing he had and it's a fucking white Tiger Woods hat. Tiger Woods signed it.

And then there's a picture of the glitter torpedo walking with them in his uniform. Tiger Woods signed it. Awesome. He saw him. He brought it all to Wingfoot, got it signed when it was from PGA. Whatever. He's walking back to where he had this memorabilia's displayed. And someone goes, what's that?

And he goes, oh, it's Tiger. And someone from his family, some like 19 year old kid goes, oh, Tiger Woods? because he's someone said what is that he goes tiger and he stopped anthony he goes tiger woods and i said i let the i let it go for like a minute and we're watching the game and i'm smirking myself and i said now who the fuck did you think he was talking about never met this guy in my entire life i said now who the fuck did you think he was talking about when he walked with a golf hat and said this is tiger's signature he goes oh no no i was just like making sure he's like you don't have to be an ad i was like no like we're going to absolutely fight now because like

you hear the name Tiger It's just like what are you thinking Fucking Tony I mean how is that possible I couldn't believe it happened to me in real life I honestly could not I could not believe I wonder if that generation though

I mean there's probably a good amount of kids From 13 to 19 20 21 who probably are like I really don't know who tigers Dude he literally was like I don't watch golf I don't know he's like I don't know He's like I don't know I was like I want a strike

you do you think that hopefully 2019 would a what a what a nip that in the butt a little bit bro we talk about all the time is he the most famous guy on the planet at times like I mean he just the way he just takes over social media and pop culture and sport like these are all just the things we have in the world I mean I don't know it's like what else do you have in the world that how do you not know who Tiger Woods is you never crossed your you never crossed your table never once that name be like I should check this guy out you know I mean like It's like Dalai Lama, the presidents, and then Tiger Woods. Like these are names, like the Pope.

These are names you know. Yeah, you got to know, tiger. Yeah, it's also a guy that he clearly had heard of, and he's making it seem like he's heard of multiple tigers that are. That's the point that I wanted him to explain. That are like, oh, is it Tiger Woods or is it Tiger Johnson? It's like, did you think it was the guy from the Frost and Flakes Box, you fucking idiot? What'd you think?

Who? Who else? Who? So you're never going back to that guy's house? No. No. All right, boys. What do you have got anything else?

I don't think so. Well, no. Go Rangers, man. All I can say is please. Yeah, I could use a couple of dollars, you know? I was like that's a game. You'd love a game seven loss. Couple wins and then.

You know what? End this thing. Hit it hard. Screw Frankie. I hate the penguins too, but it's just fucking crazy how much I hate the Rangers. I know. It drives me.

It's what makes me wake. up in the morning. Let's go blues. We'll see how things unfold after this announcement. We're all going to take Scott to win the PJ Championship. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit hard.