Fore Play - Phil Mickelson Stuns At Kiawah

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

Out of the clouds, Phil Mickelson wins the 2021 PGA Championship at Kiawah Island, taking down Brooks Koepka and a handful of others down the stretch to earn his 6th major championship title. We react to it all: the scene coming up 18, the holed out bunker shot, the bombs, the hold-your-breathe moments, leaving Streelman hanging and more. We also relive the Let Them Play Classic. Big weekend in golf - tons to cover.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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We had one of the more iconic scenes in my life of watching golf coming up the 18th hole. The crowd jumping in a la Tiger at Eastlake. Tiger at the old course at St. Andrews in 2000. It was awesome. Phil was taking deep breath, playing as slow he's ever played. You can tell that he had this whole system and he was locked in and he never really veered away from it. One that we will talk about, think about, reference probably for the rest of our lives. Gentlemen, what a week.

There's a lot going on, a lot to break down from the LTP Classic to the PGA Championship to, again, one of the most iconic wins that we'll probably ever witness, to be honest with you. Frankie and I were out at Kiowa earlier this week, and we watched Phil for a good amount of time on one of the days when we were out there, Tuesday or Wednesday, when you're really on the range, you know, trying to talk to guys, whatever. I think the word Frankie and I would use when watching Phil was lost. Like it just didn't look like he had it,

or he was really grinding over something, and he seemed in a bit of a daze. And Frankie and I were like, oh, there's just no way, you know, he's going to continue to not play well, and this just might be the phase of the career that, Phil is in, and then he won the fucking thing. He won the PJ Championship in historic fashion, which just goes to show that golf makes zero sense, absolutely none, but it's a win we'll be talking about for the rest of our lives. Yeah, it was a couple of things I'll take away from it right off the hip, right off the jump,

is that, you know, we were there, man. Not the hip. No, firing from the hip is what I wanted to say. You're going to fire from the hip. Just shooting, you know, right off the jump. What I want to tell you guys, you don't like the jump thing? No, shooting right from the jump doesn't work. Okay.

You never heard that one? We're going to hit it right from the jump. I don't think anybody's heard. No one has. Right from the jump. Like, yeah, we're going right from the jump, but you don't shoot right from the jump. Okay.

So we're going to go right from the hip or you go right from the jump. I don't think you shoot from the jump. So that we've now, we've now done a little investigation work here. We've now figured out that I was saying shoot from, I was saying shoot from the jump, shoot from the hip, right from the jump. I combined them.

I said the wrong thing. Did you guys know? Did you guys know, like the best horse archers of all time, especially this goes back to like the Mongol Empire and the Mongols? They were so good that when they would shoot their arrows, they would time it perfectly when the horses, all four legs are off the ground because it's perfectly flat and not bumpy. I don't even know how I don't even know how to process that. What I do want to say about that, think about how good you got to be to do that. It's insane. Anyway, it's absolutely preposterous.

What I want to say is that we were there and it does suck that. like Trent and I were on the grounds for maybe one of the most historic major wins of all time. The oldest win, 50 years old, Phil Mickelson, the lefty, one of my idols out there, a lefty golfer who was like one of very few and he is such a legend. God, it's just watching that crowd swallow him legitimately, swallow him in Brooks on 18. I was just like, fuck man, we could have been right there. But our decision was when we go to majors, most of the time, it's just easier for us to consume it on TV so that we can take it in just like our fans and everyone else that like legit, all the fans of golf do.

And boy, was it a good watch on TV. I fucking love Phil Mickelson. I will say, before we go to Lurch, I said to you, Trent, we were on the driving range, maybe Wednesday or Tuesday, and we're looking at all these superstars, Dustin Johnson, Rory Macquarie McElroy, fucking Brooks Keppka, all these guys are right in front of us. And all the way to the left was Phil Mickelson doing his weird breathing exercise, not that many people were around him.

He was just like over there with his brother and his coaches. And I said to Trin and said, isn't it fucking insane? I think Amon Lynch was there too. And I'm like, isn't it insane that Phil Mickelson is just not talked about anymore? Like one of the most iconic golfers of our lives is on the edge of that driving range right now. And not one person in this group is looking at him. We're all just fixated on these other guys. And he was over there hitting bombs, salacious seeds, halaceous seeds, all these things that he says,

drinking his coffee. The guy fucking went out and won the PGA championship. Dude, we're all ready to put him out to pasture. We were like, just go play on the champions tour. You already won twice there. You can beat up on those old guys. You're just too old for the Stallings and the studs on the PGA tour. Just go do that.

That'll be a great living. You'll make a decent amount of money, and that'll be it. And then you're right. He just won the PGA championship. Like, I honestly, I haven't even processed yet because it's that crazy. I thought he was going to go into a sales pitch when he won. He's standing on the green. He was talking about like,

longevity and eating the right things. I didn't know if he was going to do a little name drop there. But yeah, today, I mean, I was crazy, you know, traveling salesperson. So I didn't get to see much of the golf early on. But then seeing Phil, like, duck hook won yesterday into the water. And then to start the round today, Brooks makes a birdie, Phil makes a bogey. And you're like, oh, this thing, it could just slide away from him right out of the gate. And then Brooks makes a seven.

And he just, honestly, everybody kind of fell away from Phil. and all the pieces came into place. And the guy is, he won the PGA championship at Kio, where you think you need, like, crazy length and just not somebody who's 50 plus can win this thing. He won it. It's honestly spectacular. And him walking up was mayhem.

That was like COVID's over. What the hell are we watching? It was honestly crazy, but it was great TV there to close it up. All right. So a couple things I was going to say. One, everybody wants to compare it to 2019 Tiger, which there's a lot of reasons, too. one of the huge differences

that, like, Tiger Woods was building up to it. Tiger Woods had nearly won a couple major championships in a row. He had won at Eastlake. It made sense that he kind of was crescendoing at the Masters and won. Phil Mickelson hasn't finished inside the top 20 this year. Like, Phil Nicholson is legitimately winning more on the senior tour. And last year, last time there was a PGA championship. Phil Mickelson was more likely this year to be in the booth with Nick Faldo

and then he was to be winning the championship. And that's not even an exaggerated statement. That's a fact. Like, everyone was talking about how Phil did his debut. He was chirping Nick Fowldo last year, Harding Park. He was great. This is going to be looked at as, like, a transition period for Phil, where he plays a little bit on the senior tour,

and then he jumps in the booth, and it's a hurrah. It's great. Like, you know, take him essentially, like, yeah, take him out to Pasha. He's just on his way out the door, and it's great. And then he just won the fucking PGA championship. Out of nowhere, and to Lurch's point, the golf course could not set up worse for Phil Mickelson. I just saw Bones came on before, you know, during the 30-minute window and we were trying to start this podcast, and my audio issues wouldn't work.

And he said, he's like, I've been telling people forever that Phil Mickelson will win a major in his 50s. He's like, but I always said it would be the Masters. He said, because you can just spray it all over Augustus Green Earth. And it's not a problem down there. At Keel Island with crosswinds, crazy wins the whole week, they're changing in your face. You know, you just have to keep the ball on play. The second that you don't, you make a double or triple. We saw it all week long where guys are playing.

Well, I got a good round going. One bad T-shot. You're completely fucked and it's over. Phil Mickelson's been known for being one of the most erratic drivers for a really, really, really good player in the history of the game. Then he went out to Keow Island and was just hitting bombs. Like he had a 366-yard missile on, I believe that was like the 15th hole today. That was the longest, or 16th hole.

That was the longest T-shot on that hole of the entire day, longer than Bryson, longer than Brooks. So for him to do that at age 50, it's amazing this game and it really reminds you that like that talent that's in there in this game can come out at any moment like Tom Watson it came out when he was 59 obviously it came out like for Tiger the last couple of years Phil Nicholson Stuart Sinks playing like the best golf of his career we see Lee Westwood's playing like the best golf of his career so it's crazy that it can just come out and that you can compete at that age against these guys

but Phil out of the clouds and that scene on 18 easily easily at top you know, five, maybe top two golf tournament for me that I've ever watched. Yeah, it was, that wasn't, the scene at the end was incredible. And I was actually, I was rooting for like good golf down the stretch. So Brooks had been missing it left all day. And then he ripped one on whatever that was. I think it's 16. And then when you saw Phil's ball just rolled by his, you were like, what the hell is this about?

And then obviously what I want to talk about is the fans were 100% for Phil, just a crazy story left beyond this charge. Was that the third or fourth hole that, like, he pulled it into the fans, and then what was that scene about? Like, I wanted to see footage of that. It hit somebody. I guess a little kid picked it up and dropped it. I mean, if that's Patrick Reed, what are we even talking about here?

Like, what the hell transpired in that? So what was the story that a woman picked it up, which, if you're picking up golf balls in the PJ Championship, what's the game? happening? The one thing you can't do when you're out there is be picking up golf balls so that a woman or a child picked it up and then dropped it? I think it was a child that picked it up and dropped it. And then it was like a nervous dad that shot into the camera. But with all the footage around, and obviously it's Phil's ball, he's the leader of the championship. Like there's no camera of like what happened over there. I can't believe that. I want to see something of what's going on over there

so badly. Yeah, you would wonder what like, yeah. I don't know. What would be the reasons to not show the footage, right? Like if they, you know, like, are they, would they really go out of their way to, like, cheat for Phil? That's right. It was crazy. But then after that, he got a lift clean and plates.

It was like, I mean, that's a ridiculous outcome for pulling the ball left. I couldn't believe that those are the rules. And I think at that point, Brooks was like looking for something. I think he was in the middle of the fair way. Phil was certainly taking his time. The deep breasts when they would pan to Phil and he had those outrageous glasses on and he's doing these like full body breasts

like he's going through almost like a yoga class. And then that was happening at that same moment and Keppka's out there like, all let's pick it up. This is effing ridiculous. Right, by not showing the footage, you allow us to all say exactly what we're saying now. Like what happened over there then, right?

Like obviously nothing happened, but I even tweeted out, what would have happened if everyone one was in on the joke like, oh yeah, like we picked it up and now you just get to do it. What would happen to Phil Mickelson? Does he get like disqualified if we find out that no one touched his ball? He lifted it up, cleaned it, or is that just like you're at the mercy of fans? Because at that point, then when does that, where is that line? Can you just be on your own in the bunker and be like, oh yeah, someone said they actually came in, picked it up,

dropped it and I just like picked up the ball cleaned it because like that's, you know what I mean? Like, where does it actually? Are we just listening to fans all the time now? Like that's insane. Yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, it's, in some level, you're right. Like, there's got to be A and edge that we get to. So, you know, I think that, like, you can't, you can't blame Phil. Like, if that's the information he was given, then you just act. He brought a rules official over. I just didn't think it was that big of a deal.

I saw a lot of people tweeting about it. But I, yeah, who don't? I don't know why they don't have footage. They got to have footage somewhere. They have cameras fucking everywhere. Yeah, it's, but yeah, it's, Phil Mickelson winning this fucking major champion. It makes this sport that we all love to play, watch, enjoy just that much more outrageous that a 50-year-old can win at the highest level of this sport.

Like the fact that we all just love to watch these young guys, Victor Hovlin's and the Justin Thomas's and the Jordan Spees, all these young studs on tour, the Xalotauruses who take the game by storm. You have a 50-year-old out here. In any other sport, that guy is like almost a little too old to be a manager. You know what I mean? Like, this is getting out. That's a number that he's half a century old, and he's out there playing at the highest level, beating everyone, out driving them.

What does that say? Does that say anything about the sport? Like, I don't understand how that's possible, right? I understand it's not a physical sport, but, like, at some point, like, today it was. He was out driving Brooks Kevka, who posts Instagram stories prior to the round, which was, like, a weird thing I've never seen a guy do. Of him doing, like, bench presses and fucking, like, deadlifts and shit. Never seen a professional god for do that. that he's such a fucking meathead it's nuts but the fact that 50 year old Phil mickelson's out here

doing that is just i don't know what do you guys think about like what that says about this sport well i would say golf forever has been touted as a sport where you can play and like compete basically your whole life like you know in the handicapped system and not now this takes it to a whole not level like just beating beating the best golfers in the world the age of 50 um but like you see it pop up occasionally that's why they keep like referencing the tom watson and they, you know, we all, like, have matches against our dads, and they might have bad hips or bad knees or whatever, but, like, you could kind of play golf for a really long time.

Now, can you hit the ball as far as, like, Phil's hitting it at age 50 without doing insane work? Like, I don't think so. I think that he's, he was kind of talking his presser about the hard work, the hard work, the hard work. Like, he chased distance. He did his ridiculous bits for the last year about, like, halacious seeds and hitting bombs and all of his, all of his ridiculousness.

But, like, clearly I think there was an underlining. truth to it. He was like, no, I need to learn how to hit bombs because all these young guys out out here are being meatheads like Brooks Kebka or like DJ or like Bryson and he's got to figure it out. So it is, it's always going to be a little bit counterintuitive and a little contradictory. Like because we tout the young guys. Like last year, 23 year old Kalamorakaa, like won the PGA. And everyone's like, yeah, it's a young kid's game and Spieth had his run when he was like 22, 21, where he's winning major championships. But the old guys in golf, they always seem to fucking hang around.

And I think it'll be like that forever. Yeah, and Mickelson is old, but he's also in the best shape of his life. Fitness and health have come such a long way in sports where they asked him during his post-press carmets like, what has it really taken or what have you had to cut out of your life to allow you to perform at such a high level at this age? And he just said food. He was like, I had to cut out food, things that I love. because if my body is not in shape, I just have no chance.

And obviously, Phil is incredibly talented, one of the most talented guys to ever play the game. But if you improve your fitness, there's no telling what you can do when you're 50, 55. So it's obviously surprising. He's the oldest major champion winner of all time. But given that he is in the best shape of his life, he takes care of himself, he drinks whatever the fuck is in that coffee. I've seen the ingredients and it's crazy. but he's clearly extremely healthy. So the chances of this happening are as good as they've ever been,

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Because like on a day to day where there's not much wind, you're playing in the back like any other course, right? They still have 200, 2.30 in or whatever the case may be. And that might be tough for them over the long time. But I'm just saying courses going into the wind when you're playing in, everybody's kind of screwed. playing downwind, it negates natural, I guess, power that is needed. Because Kepka was still a club or two longer than them. Every time that they were close, Kepka was hitting, you know, seven iron, he was hitting five iron or something like that.

I mean, I think there's probably something to the conditions being a contributor. I mean, right, like, because those older guys with the experience and whatnot, when it's windy, like everybody's kind of missing greens and nobody really has the accuracy. And I think that like scoring, like I'm putting air quotes out if you're not watching on YouTube, but like just scoring your golf ball, which is like a talent in golf. And I know that sounds really obvious. I guess scoring. But you know what I mean?

Like you can just figure out a way to get the ball in the hole a little bit better than the other guys, even though you might not hit it as far. You might not hit as many fairways. You might not hit as many greens. But like the mixture of it is like, well, that's actually what golf is. And when you take a lot of those elements out, it kind of becomes a little bit more scientific, like Bryson does where you just roast it down there. You have a shorter iron in all the time,

and there's very little kind of like X factors that you can't control. And so you're just going to like, you're just going to eventually win. Numbers just win in that. Whereas I think like artistry and skill maybe win when it's windy because it throws a lot of that shit out. There's a little bit more guesswork. And when you have the people that are kind of natural field players that are older and experienced, like Tom Watson and Turnberry, like, you know, he knows that course like the back of his hand and he was talking for he's been talking ever since then about how when

the wind switched he knew other people were fucked because like he knows those wins and and same maybe with phil where it's like he can just get the ball in the hole after having done it for 40 years 30 years like professionally um i think there could definitely be something to do that you know the the that's the dumbest argument of all time and just as a contrarian and and playing devil's advocate i want to bring this up because i think what happened this weekend kind of adds fuel to these people's fire but you have the argument where it's like golf is not a sport, it's a hobby, right? And like anyone can play.

You can play against your grandfather and you can lose. And they'll compare it to football and hockey and baseball and all these sports where they're more athletically gifted. And we've talked about that all the time as Tiger Woods is the best athlete of all time. And what constitutes that? Do you think that Phil Mickelson coming out here and winning a major at the age of 50 actually hurts the argument that like, you know, it actually is an easier sport to go out there and you don't have to be as athletically gifted and you don't have to be as strong.

and powerful and skillful as the other sports because a 50-year-old can go out there and beat the best people in the world at that sport? I would say no because that 50-year-old is considered now probably like one of the top 10 players to ever play the game. So it's like, you know, like on some level. That's rare. Right. Yeah.

Like he's literally the oldest to ever do it. Like if 50-year-olds win like, if they sweep, made. one year. Then maybe we can have that conversation, but it's like, I don't think that's going to happen. Like Phil even said during his press conference where he legitimately said, this could very easily be the last win of my career. He's saying, I hope it's not. Hopefully I had a breakthrough here with some of my swing thoughts and the way that I played today. But he does not think that this is likely going to continue. And I think that it's going to be a very long time before we see another 50-year-old win a major. So this is like, what you're saying, this is like a Jamie Moyer, one of those

old school baseball pitchers that would go out there in a war. World Series game, like a 43-year-old pitcher would go out with an 87-mile-an-hour fastball and somehow like shut out the Yankees and win a World Series game. Like that's, I guess it's like a one in a, once in a blue moon, this old fucking guy can come out there and beat the young kids. So yeah, all right. I just wanted to place that because I know there's a part of people's brains that I feel like this like is that like solidific.

It solidifies it, but I was going to say solidification. That can't be the word. Validification? Remember when I tried to say validity? So, yeah, but like there is a, I think, the way I was saying that sentence, solidification, it solidifies to them like, yeah, like fucking, you know, my dad can go out there and fucking do it. You know what I mean?

Even though their dad's not fucking Phil Mickelson, but their dad also can't be the slot receiver for the New York Jets. You know what I mean? I think it's more of a testament to Phil than to other 50-year-olds. Like I think him doing it is impressive. Yeah. Just on a hell. had to be said. It's not. Yeah, and I think there's definitely an aspect of golf that's got

longevity as part of golf where it's not with other games. Like, it's one of the only games where you play the game itself. You know, you don't play against somebody else that's like getting in the way of you playing that game. And I think if, you know, someone you were going to bring like, you know, Bo Jackson was that football player that people thought like, is he going to come back? And like, he was like making claims he was going to come back in 50. Like, that's ridiculous. Your body just ages. There's no way that you, right. He played, but to 40, what? Like, still play.

Chellios played to 41. I know, but like, you can see those guys taper off. Chellius went back to the HL, which is crazy, making all that money in the NHL and then go ride buses again. It's just, but yeah, like, that's just insane. But golf has that aspect where it is longevity. Like, Phil isn't going trying to beat up Bryson. That just physically, that's going to be tough.

Like, I'm not saying he can't do it, but that's going to be out. He's looking pretty good. Where in golf, you play the course, you know, and that's all. And so golf certainly has that aspect of being different. How awesome is it going to be for people to go down, and this is not a fucking plug for Keow, Ocean Course, but how awesome is it going to be now for people to go down and play that golf course, play 17 with their buddies, come down 18,

try and hit the same bunker shot as Phil during his run, try and hit the same type of iron that Phil hit. Maybe they go to the back T's and see if they can hit that green into the wind. Like how awesome. is this sport that we talk about for a living on this fucking podcast, somehow, some way we do that. How awesome is it that this sport,

we're able to go out onto the field that these guys just played on and attempt the same stuff? Like, I said recently that I never want to play Kiowa after we were there. Like, I just think it's not a fun golf course. Same reason why I don't want to, like, go out there and play whistling straight from what I've heard about it.

And, like, it's just, it beats you the fucking shit up. Like, I don't want to go do that. I'd rather go drink Palomas down by the, you know, the caddyshack and play ping pong. But what I want to do now, after watching them shape the shots and,

and go down and win championships and the crowd running down the fairway, like, I want to go do that. Because it's now ingrained in my mind. We now have an all-time memory that we've just watched an hour ago, which I always have trouble like processing. In 25, 35, 85 years, they're going to be showing that clip that we just watched on the TV while I was, like, crinkling my toes underneath a blanket and air conditioning. You know what I mean? Fucking weird.

Right. They're going to be talking about that bunker shot. going to be talking about that bunker shot forever. I think it was on five. Like that was, obviously it wasn't anywhere near being over because it was such a back and forth between him and Brooks.

But that felt like, like when that stuff happens during a round for somebody, it feels like it's, it's, you know, written in the stars that they say. Like, if he had gone on to lose and fade down the stretch,

like, you forget about that bunker shot forever. But since he won, like, we're going to be seeing that until we're 100 years old. Yeah, and as it happened, it was a very, that was the first moment where you really were like,

oh my God, he's going to do it. Right. This is his day. This is magic. This is what's happening. And they, you know, on that too, I mean, to Frankie's point about the course and, you know, elevating it now to this lore, it's like lore by the shore, as Jim Nance said, which I thought

was phenomenal. Man, like when he was teeing off on 18 and he was going through his breathing and they were doing these shots with the waves crashing behind him and he's like teeing off on 8, you're just like, holy fuck. Like, is this real? and then him coming up 18 with all the fans coming around. It almost was like you knew that Phil Whitting was going to be really iconic and memorable, but it was like they went above and beyond.

Like the sports god who was in charge of this situation, like over-delivered big time. And you had this crazy scene where you couldn't believe what you were watching. And I was very much laughing. I saw a couple people pointing out on golf Twitter that like we're learning that the security system of just really thin like ropes at golf courses just don't they just don't work like people can just go through them

after he hit his second shot on 18 we lost Phil for two seconds they're like they all jumped on him and they they swallowed him and somehow the security got him back but I'd never seen anything like they had zero control over that situation they lost the golf Kepka was gone for 15 minutes Kepkin was gone forever they lost the golf course and you know they said that out at Shinnikov

they lost that golf course. I know the USGA, they got, you know, was it Zach Johnson that said that? Was it the guy from Iowa? It was, yeah. The needle mover. They legitimately, they got overthrown. You know, it was just, that was just a revolution.

And people were coming from all over fuck in the world. And they were rushing that course and no one was stopping them. Kepka legitimately, when he, when they were panning around the drone and they were showing 18 and Phil was, Phil had already walked behind the hole. checked his line, checked the read, was walking around, talking to his brother, like, reading the putt. And then Kepka emerged. I would love to know what happened in those legitimate real 10 minutes. Like, that's a long-ass fucking time from his second shot to when Phil is done reading that green.

You can't imagine Brooks has like a great memory of that either. He's like, I was, you know, I was close to the top of the leaderboard and then I faded as the day went on. Now I'm going to deal all these fucking guys who wanted Phil the whole. whole day. At no point where they like, hey, Brooks, we're kind of rooting for you. It was 100% Phil. So I can't imagine Brooks looks back on that being like, boy, that was a fun environment. Plus, there was like all the way down to the wire until Phil hit his second shot on 18. It was like, very realistic. Brooks makes birdie. Phil makes bogey and like we're in a playoff. So I'm, you know, from his vantage point, he probably the whole day was like, I can still win this golf tournament.

And then he just got eaten by the, like literally eaten by the crowd and couldn't get out of there. He did not look happy when he came out. I don't blame him. But, yeah, I mean, he's got something going on too now that we got to talk about. Where, I mean, he posted 74 last year at the PGA championship. He had his comments about DJ and the other guys being like, yeah, he's only won one. Nobody else has won any. And then he posted a shit score on Sunday as well and faded.

So Brooks coming out with the birdie are all thinking like this guy's just nails in the final round, nails under pressure. Now he's kind of got a little thing going where maybe it's not so. easy to close out major championships. Yeah, he had the missus left going big time. He just couldn't get the driver at the ballpark. And then what was it? Was it on 17 where he put it long and then just had like a kind of a horrible effort down?

Or no, what was that whole, Phil put it in the water. What was that? Oh, like 13. Was that, was it that early? Yeah, but like he kept missing it. I guess it was because then he got the driver going down the stretch. But yeah, he just like, he kind of just got in bad spots, but just kept missing it left, left, left.

And maybe there's something I know he'll just blame injuries and knees and, like, however bad it is. But we'll see how it shakes out going forward for him. But he was just ugly. As soon as he made that seven, he really didn't play strong golf until probably 15 or 16, it felt like. Yeah. It was really surprising.

They said on 18, just the swagger of that drive and even on 16, right? I think he hit a good one, 16. Yeah. The swagger of those drives, like the way he approached the T shot, the way he put the ball on the ground, the way he went and picked up the T immediately. Like that was something that he wasn't doing holes one through 15. Something was just off. It was almost like he was playing. And I think they mentioned this on the commentary a couple times.

He was like getting caught up in Phil's game. Phil was kind of controlling the pace. It almost felt like a hockey game. Like they're like they, Phil was the team that was pressing against the defense and was dumping the puck and making the fucking other team make the change. They, Phil controlled that game today. And I think it was- outrageous. Like, his breathing shit was outrageous.

He took a lot of time out there, man. Like, that was like a pace of play issue for Brooks. Right. Not for like the average golfer. Like, I don't think he was like going over his boundaries or, or breaking the rules or anything. But fuck, man, he got Brooks like kind of off his game. And it works, I guess. Like when you're out there, we've all seen it, right?

Like if we're on an amateur side, when we're playing well, and then you get to the next T-box and these fucking idiots, up there are playing for the Ryder Cup they feel like and they're reading greens and all and you're like, fuck man, it's been 25 minutes since I last took a golf swing. How am I supposed to hit this green now? It's impossible. You got to think that Brooks is like, come on, man, I got to go. I got to go. He's said that before. So props to Phil. He has said that. Dude, I think you're right. I think Phil that was intentional. I think Phil very much was like, yeah, this guy fucking hates and people play slow. I'm going to breathe. I'm going to drink my coffee. I'm going to play how

Phil wants to play. No one's going to penalize me because I'm Phil Mickelson. And this is going to be my, welcome to my world now, Grandma. Like, that's pretty much what he was doing. And I think it worked. Like, I think, is that the reason did it cost Brooks any shots? I don't know. But guess what? He didn't play fucking great.

And Phil played perfectly, really. Like, he played for Phil Mickelson in a final round like that. Like, he didn't have to really do anything special. He did hit some six shots. Like, him birdying 10, like, they made the turn and he had, like, the one-shot lead or so. And you're like, okay, Phil's coming down the back nine. Like, he's got a history of having some. some issues. He closed some. He hasn't closed

to other. And then he just piped one on 10 and then hit a dart in there and made the put. He had some clutch moments where you were just like, man, he's really going to do this. And then he was able to kind of stumble a little bit when he needed to. He was able to hit one in the water and still just made a bogey, no problem. He was able on 17 to like realize he was in a dog shit spot. 17 was where we could have had a real fill moment for sure. I was convinced that he was going to skull that ball over the green and going to the water.

and it was just going to be pandemonium. And then even on the 17 T-box, he was over the ball, and he stepped back, and I was like, it's over. Like, Brooks is going to win this thing. Like, Phil's not in the right state of mind. But I thought for sure his second shot on 17, by some way that was going to end up in the water. And it didn't. He obviously, he made the right play.

But that would have been a very fill moment if that ends up in the water. And then it's, then 18 is very, very interesting. I've said this after major championships. It's been a couple years since we've seen, oh, not a couple years. It's been a long time since we've seen a lot of fans at a major tournament like that. And it just reminded me, like, I think it was 17 and definitely 18, that we just trust humans at golf tournaments to not fuck up our favorite sport and all this historical shit. Like, we don't trust humans for anything. Like, we legitimately, like, don't.

We're all idiots and we, like, ruin the world. And that's just who we are. That's who we are as humans. We all make mistakes and we have idiots that get drunk and they go out there and they fucking drive into. telephone poles or whatever they're fucking doing. You can't believe that idiots and drunk idiots don't mess up golf tournaments more often. That a guy doesn't, like a happy Gilmore thing I'm trying to think of. They all climb the fucking TV tower, it crashes down.

Like the fact that he's stepping up to 17, the biggest golf shot of his career at that time right now, right? He's 50 years old. He needs to get this done. And no one like blows an air horn or something. It's just, it's amazing that we as a society just allow golf to be golf in those, moments and I just want to applaud humans for letting that happen because in any other sport we're assholes like dude in baseball we're going to fucking crazy in the last pitch and basketball re-chanting defense and golf are just like oh my god everyone just be quiet and let this guy do his

historical shit right those four seconds where guy is over the ball in golf in a big moment like that the fact that more doesn't go wrong on a more consistent basis is a miracle like I understand that people they respect the game they respect the players they respect phil but people drink a shit ton of these tournaments. And you could see that that was a lubricated crowd out there today. So the fact that, like, yeah, like when he's on 17, the fact that somebody just doesn't go, yeah, Phil, let's do it! Anything.

While he's over the ball is, is, I guess it is a testament to humans, but it's, I feel like it, I don't know, I'm, I'm just as. It's one of the great upsets. It's one of the great upsets of all the time. Like, that's a miracle that that doesn't happen more often. And it happens like every Sunday, all. year long. Like we all just, every day, really, we all just follow the rules within, once we throw those khaki shorts and that polo on, we just kind of like follow the rules. And I love it.

Like golf is a sport in which you have to govern yourself. And when you're there, uh, they have acres upon acres of land to cover. You have to kind of govern yourself and your, the players are at the mercy of you. I've always said that. Tiger Woods at Augustine National like chipping on, like some of the more iconic holes that he's ever done. The, fact that like none of those moments were spoiled by a drunk asshole is phenomenal. Like it's honestly like unbelievable that that's never happened. Like say today on 17 with Phil, if a guy had just run out there and kick the ball off the team, I wouldn't be, I would not be surprised.

It's just not. I'm surprised that it doesn't happen. But it doesn't for the most part. Obviously there are examples where it has. But for the most part, in big golf moments, they're not ruined by fans. it's just what the player does. And I'm with you, Frankie. The more I think about it, the more surprised I am that more shit doesn't happen.

Again, I applaud humans in general. We are all doing a great job. When it comes to the golf course, we're killing it. So let's all give ourselves a little round of applause. If you're listening to this and you just came from Kiowa, just, you know, give yourself that nod, be like, I did the right thing. I was there for historical moment. I am part of golf history and I did my part.

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Well, what smacked me in the fucking goddamn moon face was a 90-degree weekend this weekend. And what I found out was when I plug in my air conditioning, because I have one of those, I don't want to say poor people things, but like when I have, I have one of those poor people air conditioners that you put into your fucking window, because that's just the kind of room I'm saying in. And, you know, you have to crank the thing up and it goes, I don't have fucking central air in here. Again, pizza sauce on the pizza sauce on we don't we're not buying $20,000 rings around here. You know what I mean? So I can't plug this thing in at the same time as my as my setup because the fuse breaks and the whole house goes down.

So it's a hundred and two degrees in this room right now as I speak to you. How do you live inside that brain? I just don't. I don't. It's a mess. I don't have a constant natural disaster in there. I don't have a goddamn breeze coming through this room right. Not even, not even a sniff.

You know what I need? I need Phil Mickelson to do one of those breaths right on my forehead. What she did on the driving range, basically, when we were like, I was like, dude, this was like Wednesday. It would have been awesome now thinking about it. Breathe on me. No, bro. It's like, come on Phil.

Breathe on me. I don't know if you're on the last podcast, but like we were, I don't think you were, but like, Trent and I were on the fucking driving range. I'm sure you saw a lot of the stuff that we were doing. But like, Trent and I are very like, you know, we're not outgoing like as much as people probably think in person. So we're both talking with each other. Like, all right, are we just going to go up and do it?

Or we're going to do it? We're going to do it? And I said to him, all right, fucking Phil Mickelson's coming over. I'm going to say something. I'm going to reach my hand out. And I'm going to say, Frankie Borelli, Barstool Sports, speak to us. Like, I had the whole thing planned to it, plan. And I saw him walk.

And what he did was he actually looked like a robot, walked right in front of us, and then took a deep breath and just, he exhaled, like, right on our face, basically. And I was just like, well, that's over. He just dominated us. Is that sexual assaulted you? Didn't even get a chance to speak because I was just getting blown by his CBD gum breath. So it was just over and that's that's it. I would say I think it was maybe one of the uglier final parents.

I think Phil looks absolutely preposterous in those glasses. And I also think Kepka could not look worse with that goatee thing that he's got going on. I mean, Frankie, to your point, if aliens saw us and they were like, that's your like prize possession, walking down this weird piece of grass for whatever reason, that's the ugliest human being in the galaxy. Yeah, I mean- I like Phil's aviators. Well, they have nothing. Yeah. There's nothing cosmetic about those, correct? Like, he's doing those for some sort of- I think they're strictly cosmetic. No, I think you're incorrect. I think they're practical. I think that there was a ton of research done

about what was like the optimal amount of sun that needed to come into his eyeballs. Maybe he's I was having eye problems. Are they prescription? Like, we, I don't think there's any fucking chance that that guy's out there because he thinks he looks good in them. I think that they were surgically done. Dude, I'm telling you, bro, they're so big and they have that certain tint. Like, I'm pretty sure that this guy figured out that he could see the ball better, like

hitting the club face and, like, he can see pins better with those things on. No, I think, I think that's what he would tell you if we asked him. I think he would say, oh, yeah, yeah, I got him, you know, specifically engineered so they look. so I can see the ball in this type of sunlight. But I think he got them because he thinks he looks good in them. And I think he does look good in them. But I don't know how much of like an advantage he's getting with those particular sunglasses.

Right. I was thinking now they're just catty shot glasses where he just like looks at it, just knocks the ball in the hole like that putter. But there's no way he can think that those look cool. They don't, they obviously don't look cool. Like I think they look fine like he's playing golf. Like Hendrick Stenson rocks his glasses.

they have a fine on the golf course, but they don't, he doesn't look, they're not like stylish, cool glasses. I think he thinks they look cool and I'm sipping that Kool-Aid a little bit. I think he looks pretty cool. He's like a 50-year-old slim-down version of himself and he puts on these aviators.

People who wear aviators wear them because they think they look cool. I think you're wrong. I think Phil Mickelson, on his way to win a fucking major, is not dressing or trying to look cool. Like, that is a very important part of his game is his eye.

I think that he takes them off. No, when the... Particular shots, he takes them off. Maybe some shots, but he wore them almost every shot. Which should then even prove more like he's doing things for certain swings, right? Like he, like, on maybe certain chips, he needs to be a little bit more feely and he takes them off because he's used to... I'm telling you, bro, it's Phil Mickelson. The guy, like, like, the guy has a C2 squared, like HIV.

The guy who is the most worried about his image ever who goes on Twitter because he thinks people think he's cool that. way? Like, I don't understand the argument. I just think that they are so preposterous and they came out of absolutely nowhere that there was some thought into like his game when he started wearing them. I don't think that he went to

Rayban.com and was like, what do I look cool in, honey? And like bought them and started wearing them during fucking major championships. Well, up until today they've been dog shit if they are supposed to help his game in any way, because he's been playing like shit. Can we talk about

What'd you guys think about his reaction when he won, right? Because, like, that's one of the more iconic wins of all time. I was, like, waiting for tears. I was waiting. And it's kind of a lame thing to say, like, he should have cried and he should have been more emotional. And he should have, like, I don't know, acted like he cared about the fucking championship. But he actually kind of did the opposite. Like, he was just super polite.

He was an old man, Sally. Super polite, like, during his interview with Ballionis on the green, very, like, he was just, like, very thankful. for like fans of the game of golf. It was like an old man talking to the crowd, which I guess it kind of is, but about like the game as opposed to like what he just achieved. It was very strange and no family there. I don't, it was, I mean, no family there except for his brother.

Very strange. I would have liked to see him a little more. I could, I could have used some, some more emotion, some more fist bumps. I mean, like Tiger Woods dominated him in this in the Selly game. Tiger went crazy with that. And then he was marching through with Charlie with that whole thing. Everybody chanting.

and tigers like high-fiving people and fist bumping while he's walking. So, yeah, I could have used a little more. I mean, it's, yeah, yeah, I could have definitely used it a little more. I thought the same thing. I thought when he gave, he put both arms up. He was excited, but then after that, I don't think I really saw shit from him, which, again, he can do whatever he wants, but I would have liked this team a little more. He could do it every once, but there was a point when he was speaking that it almost

felt like, I was like, I actually said to myself, this guy almost looks like he's embarrassed that he just won. The way he was talking, every time Amanda was like, trying to get that moment out of him because she did that with Dustin Johnson at the Masters and every time he couldn't speak she was like well I understand that you couldn't answer that question but what about

all the dogs that aren't being saved you know what I mean like trying to ask him a question that would fucking make him cry and what she was doing that with him like Phil you're the only man in his 50s to ever win a major you're the oldest you said it has that feeling he goes well you know these fans out it was like

what what I What, Phil? I will say it's got to be sort of a weird question to get where the main point is people just telling you how old you are. Where it's like, dude, you're fucking so old that you're the oldest person to ever do this. And then you're just staring morality in the face. And you're just like, fuck, all right.

Like I understand, like that's definitely the main takeaway from all of us. Like, that's crazy that Phil won. He's 50s, the oldest major champion ever. But in Phil's mind, that's just people constantly reminding him that he's super old. And that would be like, it's cool, but it also sucks. Yeah, it was weird when they kept, like, when they were like, you are officially the oldest major champion ever. The oldest. You're so fucking old.

Like, they literally, that's like how they introduced them. That's a little bizarre. I also said morality when I meant to say mortality. There you go. I just wanted that on the record. I, sometimes, I know what you're saying because I'll sometimes get a, you know, my skin crawls when I'll be around someone that's around. older person. Maybe it's like a birthday event or something where people are talking about age and someone's like, oh my God, I'm getting so old. Like, and they'll say it to like an actually old

person. Like let's say my buddy turned like 29. He's like fuck, dude. Like my life is just like over now. And he says it to like a 50 year old. You're like, well, like what do you think that just made that person feel like? Like that person's essentially one foot in the grave now. You know what I mean? I've actually had debates with people in my inner circle about that. Like, like do you have any respect for the person you just said that to? Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I'm getting, like, I can't imagine being 40. Ew. Like, you just said that to a 60 year old.

So, so like, so like, when that person now goes to sleep and, like, is staring at the ceiling and they, they're going to be running that one back. Like, you know, that was 20 years ago when that person thinks that they're going to fucking die. I'm very much picturing Phil driving back in his rental car by himself to his hotel, potentially right now. And just staring off onto the road being like, I'm old, man. Yeah, I just accomplished something that no one has ever done. But the only reason that was possible is because I waited so long to do it because I'm old. It's like that's not great. Dude, like the interview didn't lead with like you won your sixth major.

It makes you like tied for 12th all time. Your 45th teacher. It makes you eighth all time on PJ. They were just like, dude, so you're the oldest fucking dude to do this. Like, what's up with that? And dude, I think Phil's a person that really cares about that. We've talked about maybe being in like a midlife crisis, right? Like the calf stuff, he got oddly thin.

He's in the best shape of his life. Again, his family just wasn't there to celebrate him with him when they knew that he was in the final pairing. Very strange dynamics. A person who's the oldest person on tour to win one should have the most family. You know what I mean? Like, Grant, like they've been on this earth the longest to then generate the most amount of family to then be there. He has collected the most family along the way. Correct.

So how that works. No one. But yeah, no, I don't even know what I was saying for you. You're saying no one? Yeah, I mean, you're saying that the guy with the most family had no family there and then basically walked off and said, I love you to his wife and I'll see you tonight. And it was just like, it wasn't that he came back at one and shot 63 and it's like, he was in the final pairing.

He was like, no, like if your family's not there Thursday or Friday, I get that. He was going off at plus 25,000 to one. Like, but it's. as soon as Saturday comes and he's in the mix, like just private jet your family up there. Now, something could have happened, whatever, they could have been somewhere. It is what it is.

I mean, Phil's always had these, like, headlines where he was going to miss the U.S. Open with his daughter's graduation. Remember that one? It's just, there's always stuff going on during majors with Phil and the family, so obviously things could have happened. But it was just weird to like, I don't know. And I'm not saying that it's wrong or weird or unfortunate that he didn't cry and drop to the ground and do some.

I would have loved to buy a picture. and put it up in my future house one day of like Phil Mickelson doing something fucking awesome with that huge crowd unfortunately he didn't um so i mean that just kind of sucks but what i but you know it it is what it is like Phil Mickelson's kind of like a ho-hum i did it i've done it fucking six times kind of guy like that's kind of cool thumbs up um uh i'm a champion and i'll be here next year competing i'll be at tory pines let's let's see if i can get let's see if i can get that one thumbs. I know he's the thumbs up guy, but he now does it as like a reflex as he's walking. Like if anybody says, go Phil, he just, he just throws it.

Dude, it's like, it's a whole hum. I just want to major. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'll see you guys. I just got to get to my car. That's it's like the weirdest fucking thing ever. But that's fucking Phil, man. Fucking Phil with a pH. I was throwing a lot of those tweets out there, people getting mad. Yeah. You were, you know, yeah, by the end, I think you were doing it to piss them off, right? I will, yes, yes. 100%. I can say that.

Yep. I did it. I said 50 years old. It was pH on both F. And everyone was like, this guy sucks. Kind of want to sell it as a shirt. Just 50. Yeah, he did kept referencing after, I think multiple times I heard him say when he was asked about the crowd swarming him on 18,

saying that it was like unnerving. Like, so clearly he was, that. that came off a little bit like you're above, like, people being near you. And, like, he was, he was, he was a little bit uncomfortable, like, oh, we've lost control of everybody. Like, this is a problem, which is like, I get it. Like, it's kind of what we've been talking about with, like, I can't believe golf crowds aren't crazy.

What if someone just ran by and took his hat or something? Like, while he's walking up 18. So I guess I do get that. But, yeah, I think, he's, seemed more subdued than I thought he would have been. And maybe that was a result of his breathing stuff. Like maybe he's so divorced in the sauce with a breathing that he like can't snap out of it. He's like in character.

I don't know what his deal was. But regardless, it was just one of the coolest things I've ever seen from a golf standpoint. I think for all of us. It does make him now, like I said, it's his sixth major. It puts him up there tied with Nick Faldo and Lee Trevino. He's T12 all time. He's got 45 PGA tour wins. That's eighth all time.

So Phil, I mean, has pretty much supplanted himself, I would say, as the top 10 player of all time. It's also crazy to think that Brooks was going for his fifth. That kept fucking my head up, thinking that he was trying to tie Phil Mickelson in major championships when, you know, Brooks is what, 31, Phil's obviously 50. Like, Brooks has just screwed up the whole timeline on majors. He's just won so many so fast that I'm just confused by it.

But yeah, Phil, I wonder how Nick Faldo feels about now being tied with Phil Mickelson at 6. I know how he feels not good about it. He played it pretty cool on the broadcast. He was very, like, complimentary, and it was very cool for him to watch. But we all know that they have, like, a weird relationship, so I'd love to know how he actually feels. Yeah, by weird, you mean, like, clearly Phil fucking hates, like, Nick Faldo. Right. That is what I mean.

Yeah. Um, shout out Louis Oostazen. Almost at one point on the back nine, kind of felt like it was like this was his time. Didn't it feel like that guy was, I mean, legitimately on 13, he makes a double bogey. And like that was the difference. He ends up losing by two strokes.

He ended up having a double boge in 13 absolutely fucking sucks. But if there was ever a time for Louis Oostehusen to get it done, he played lights out, man. Like that guy was nails this week. Just a couple mistakes here and there. And like, if he eliminates those one or, two mistakes, he wins the PGA championship. A guy that you really wouldn't

have thought would have been in the mix. I did fire up a good Louis Oopsayson when he hit it into the water. I thought you would have liked that Trent. I don't know if he saw it. I did like that. Okay. I did like it. Yeah. No, I was very, that's very much up my alley. So I like that a lot. Louis O'Says is one of the best ones I've ever pulled.

Because he has two O's in his name. You get it? Yeah, I just felt for the guy. Princessa made that the best name in the world when he did that whole thing. I was really pulling from my guy Kevin Streele. I, I, people so didn't want that to happen that I wanted it to happen. What do you mean your guy? I'm just messing around.

Okay. Okay, first of all, he got, he got left hanging worse than you did, Trent. Oh, that's what awkward. One of those awkward things ever seen. That wasn't why he was my guy. It's just, I love the moments when, obviously, the entire lead up to starting last night to today was like, Brooksville, Brooksville, Phil, what's going to happen? and then a guy like Kevin Strelman is just hanging around

two or three shots back and it'd be very funny if he just stole the show You didn't want Kevin Strelman Bro, we would have, I would have rioted it I would have went down to you. That's why though, people be like, you hate that. You were not. You've been on this show being like we hate when fucking vanilla pudding nobody's win these championships.

So generally the reason why we all watched with so much passionate days because it was Brooks first Phil Mickelson not because of Kevin Streelman. I also thought about it and then I thought it would be funny if Jim Nance yelled Man of Streal when he won because I thought that would be really funny. But sometimes I get in those modes where it's like, obviously everything's about Brooks and Phil right now.

But if Kevin Strel, Man O' Streel can come out of nowhere and just grab this thing, that'd be kind of funny. But, you know, was I actually pulling for Kevin Strelman? No. But it would be funny if once you throw all the narratives out the window and Kevin Strelman wins, that's just a funny win. Kevin Strelin is just like a... You've got to start selling shirts.

Manistreel shirts have just, we've just got to sell those things. Those would be awesome. Nobody's buying a Kevin Streelman shirt, but I do think it's an awesome man. I don't know about that. Well, yeah, no, I mean, legitimately no one would buy a Man of Streather shirt. I mean, unless it's just like a play on the movie Man of Steel. No, no, Frankie. We're in a business and we're not having, like, fun.

Frankie, it is a play on Man of Steel movie. Do you get it? No, it is. It is. Well, to Lurge's point, he wants to put him up for, like, one or two people so he can giggle, but it's like, we're just not just not. Or the joke would continue, which would be pretty funny. Frankie, Frankie, Man of Streal. It's like Man of Steel.

The movie, Superman. Yeah. And the golfer. Because if he had won and Jim Nance says, man of Striel, it's like he's Superman because he beat Brooks and. I'll give you this. Oh my God, I almost called you Brooks. Lurch. I'll give you this lurch.

I think the amount that I've now been negative. about that shirt, there will be tweets about people who want a Kevin Streelman shirt. And... Yeah, I only think it was about you. I think it's just a funny shirt. Or you make a... Superman and Kevin Streelman on it. Or you make a fan club of Kevin Strelman fans in your friend of Striel.

There's something there now. We've talked about it for way too long in this podcast. For now, it's like a thing. So we'll see. We'll see how much... The problem is there are no Kevin Strelman. That is... But that's why I kind of snapped on Lurch

Because he's like, let's just have a little bit of fun It's like, you're just sending that out to nobody. The singular reason I was pulling for Kevin Strelman Is because Man of Streel made me laugh out loud In my own apartment. That's the only reason. It will cost more money to actually get it done on Microsoft Award Than it would be to like,

And it was perfect watching him get completely left hanging by Phil Mickelson Because I obviously that happened to me and Frankie Over the weekend in Charleston. But, you know, it's just, That was tough to watch. It's one of those things where you just got to give up, right? Like the first time he goes by you and misses you, bail. You just have to bail.

It's when you linger. That's when you get yourself in trouble. But he was caught in no man's land of like, did I just get left hanging? Maybe if I can salvage the situation on the second pass. And Phil double looked him off and just walked away. and went actually very enthusiastically towards someone else that just appeared out of nowhere. And it was so hard to watch. But of course it was Kevin Strelman, like Man of Striel.

Nobody else. I could pick any other name. Phil was hugging everybody, every person on the golf course. Paul Casey, everybody was getting hugs from Phil Mickelson. And Strelman, they got to have some sort of history or something because he just walked right by him. Or Kevin Strelman is just one of those guys where. he's never won like a radio call-in contest. When you're supposed to be the eighth caller, he's the seventh caller.

And like, it just doesn't work out. That's the vibe I got. I don't know if there's anything going on. Maybe there is between Kevin Strillman and Phil Mickelson. But I feel like a guy like Kevin Strillman just kind of always falls, you know, in between the cracks, unfortunately for him. Another headline that stuck out to me, our guy, 154th world ranking golfer, probably a little bit higher, I mean, better now.

Harry Higgs. First major ever, his first major performance ever, and the guy finishes T2, T4, sorry, two under, and he had a bogey free Sunday round at Kiowa Island Ocean Course. What a fucking legend that guy Harry Higgs is. We saw him on the driving range going out there on Thursday. He had a great round on Thursday where he was one under, he was in the mix, and then all of a sudden we looked at him and we go, hey Harry, like, go get him this week, we're leaving tomorrow, and he just goes, time for my nap and just walked by us and went to go nap. And he's just a legend. Harry Higgs is a legend.

I could not be more proud of that guy. Just nice to see. I can feel his swell of support starting to grow, Harry Higgs. Like I can just everybody likes him. Obviously we did that video with him. Everybody love that. But he's just such a nice, relatable guy that I just hope he continues to play well. Because if he really starts to play really well on a consistent basis,

there's no telling how big his fan base will get. Right, because he's big in our circle and our fan base, right? Like the people that are for play listeners and our group, the guys who like to have fun on the golf course, really, are big Harry Higgs fans. But like I watched it with a couple older people today. And like when Harry Higgs came on the screen, because he's obviously T4, he had some screen time today,

they're like, oh, like, who's this guy? And I couldn't, like, they were older people. Like my girlfriend's dad is like, who is that guy? I'm like, well, it's Harry Higgs. How the fuck do you not know who Harry Higgs is? And I had to kind of take a step back being like, well, no, I guess he's like kind of our generations, like he's 28-year-old guy who doesn't button his his collared shirt.

And this is his first major ever. So I guess if you're not watching that much PGA Tour golf, you're not going to see him. But he is on the precipice of gaining that older crowd because if he continues to play better, they're going to see he's just out there to have a good time. He's just like them. He's going to smoke a stogie, drink a transfusion, and just like have a good time. That's a guy that resonates with every golfer in the world, not just young guy. Correct.

Yeah. And he is clearly a people's golfer guy. I mean, he's probably, he's in the top five of people's golfer kind of guy. It's like, Joel played really well too. He had it going for a while. But like him, Joel, Kiz, Max, these are just the people's golfer type fellas. So he's going to be, if he continues to play this well, a total superstar in our world, a total superstar. He's very likable in every way.

And I bet he loves this stuff. Who doesn't? Well, you ever look at a egg? Chef's cut, baby. I mean, Harry Higg seems like a guy that loves himself some beef jerky, some real jerky. And that's Chef's Cut. Chef's Cut has sent us a plethora of jerky. And it goes down the day it comes in.

Dude, I eat it right away, right away. The Bill Tong, the just the regular original, the terriaki. I mean, all of these flavors, even the no sugar. All right, chefs cut beef jerky, real jerky, comes in these no sugar packets sometimes, right? They'll have the black pepper zero sugar, is what it's called. They'll have the Bill Tong zero sugar. You know it's just feels better. You know it's healthier. It feels better in your hand because you know there's not all these things added to it to make it fake and all the sugar coating and stuff. And it just tastes fantastic. It's got so much flavor. It's juicy.

It melts in your mouth. And then also, like some of them, like the terriaki, the original for sure, it gives you that sense of like when it's late night or you're driving home and you have maybe some chefs cut beef jerky in your car. And you need something to just chew on. You know, sometimes you'll stop at like a 7-Eleven or you're stopping a gas station. You need something to chew on. Just have chefs cut on you because it's like so satisfying to crunch it in your mouth. It feels like you're really, you're really quenching that, that, that, that starvation.

feeling of wanting to eat, for some reason Chef's Cut just doesn't. You're just describing eating. I mean, that's- Yeah, you're really going to have a story time. This is ridiculous. But I will say, you're ridiculous. You're ridiculous. Smote chicken is so good.

And it's a good to put your golf bag, frankly. You need a little snack, nine holes, you're playing 18, maybe you're playing 27. Probably good to have your golf bag, you know? So why don't you tell us another story about it all? Whatever. When you eat a banana, it just doesn't like do it. You know what I mean? It's that like,

You're biting into nothing. There's something about eating beef jerky that even if you don't have a lot of it, it satisfies you. It's that one little stick of meat that's like, holy shit, I'm eating a meal right now. And it's out of a bag. Or even the beef stick. It's something that you don't need to go. It feels like you need to cook it. You need to like take all this time to make this beef stick.

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25% off. That's a great discount. CC4 play, that's all one word. Chef's Cut Cc4 play. One word. Go to Chef's Cut Realjerkey.com. CC4 play, you get 25% off. Riggs, you mentioned Joel Damon. I don't

think we've talked about our little encounter with him on 17 on Thursday, which was one of the crazy things that's ever happened to any of us. Yeah. You guys need to describe it because it was, it was amazing. I actually couldn't believe it. It's one of the craziest things that's ever happened in our brand in like, like a professional sporting event.

Like I don't, not just four, but I think just bar still in general, the fact that someone during the heat of a competition of a major championship, that level, and someone that's playing well at the time, he was playing very well. well. He was even for the tournament when everyone else was like six, seven over. He was playing the best in his group at the time. We're standing on 17 green on T-box. We have the inside the ropes passes. And the way that it was positioned that day, today you really couldn't tell because they used a different T-box. But on Thursday, it was kind of like a U-shaped T-box. And we were on the left. He's on the right. And it's just us and the golfers at that point. We were probably in the wrong spot, to be honest. We're just on a T-box. And, you know, people are walking in and out and they're like, they're not noticing us much. And it's just us. And for some reason, like these 10 minutes went by where just no one could miss us on this T-box,

all the players, right? So, so Joel Damon comes up. He hits a shot and it goes way left, screams four. To us, we think he's in the gallery. And we both look down because, like, he's just going to go back to his caddy and just, like, proceed to play the major championship. What we didn't realize is as we looked up, he's just walking towards us, doesn't even pick up the T, hits the gov shot, screams four, and then proceeds to walk.

straight to me and Trent and I'm like, what's happening? What's happening? What's happening? Even Jake, who was with us, who was like filming on his interactions, didn't even have a chance to pull out his phone because who would have ever thought that this would happen? Walks up to us and just goes like, this is really fucking hard, guys. And I'm like, all right, like, are you

talking to us right now? Okay, so then we get up. You see us kind of like, get up. And he's like, if I was standing on the 14th at May, 14th, uh, T-box at Mesa Country Club, I'd beat your guy's ass right now. Because he was playing well. Like, he was, he's like messing around with us. Then he kind of like stops talking

lets his partner who's playing with him in the major championship hit and then continues to talk to us and joke around and we were able to get in a couple hoo-haz with him I was like oh we just can't be around you because every time we're around you you're just a worst golfer ever and he laughed at that and just went on to like make a bogey on 17

like it was it was preposterousing joke yeah that's awesome and then like as our lives are we're like damn that was an awesome moment because Joel is legitimately an awesome guy and then the next thought is boy I wish we had that on camera. It would be really funny and cool thing for all of our fans to see because like we're saying, it's the Thursday of a major championship. This is no bullshit. For Joel

to come over, that's a pretty crazy thing. And then we started, we got one tweet of a screenshot of the top of my very burnt head talking to Joel Damon. So it was clearly on some sort of broadcast. But it was one person that tweeted as. We couldn't find it. Marina, who we worked with, ended up finding it. And it got the whole interaction, which we didn't think was possible. We figured when Joel hit the ball, it goes left, they all yell four, and then we figured they jumped to another guy. Like, that's how a golf broadcast works. But we got the clip, and sure enough, it shows him hitting the ball, yelling four, and they stay on him, and as he walks all the way across the T-box to tell us how hard this golf course is. Like it was, and we got the

whole thing on video, and we had proof we weren't just lying about Joel coming over to us. It was pretty fucking incredible. One and a billion chance that they stay on Joel Damon to show him talk to the patrons as they call this, which was funny. People wanted us to get, like, mad at that. Like, I don't expect fucking ESPN Plus or anyone to know who the hell we are. Like, I didn't respond to one of those tweets. They're like, how do they not know who rigged? I mean, legitimately, I got a thousand tweets being like, the disrespect that they don't know who they are. I'm like, are you kidding me? We're, what? I don't even know who I am on that. I like, I like actually prefer being in that spot. I want them to be like, oh, look at Joel going

over there to talk to a couple idiot spectators. That's, that feels like a good way. That's who we are. Right, I know, that's what I mean. Like, it feels like that feels like the lane we need to stay in. I mean, we're not going anywhere. So I think it's going to stay that way. A lot of people commented about how you, like, I kind of just followed your shoulder tap, which like, it was just. Somebody said, somebody said the last person to touch Joel wins.

Because I hit him and then you hit him. And I was like, because he definitely followed my lead on it. He said something funny. And I was like, oh, good one, Joel. And you're just like, yeah. I just wanted to touch him. I mean, I just don't know how often you get. get to touch a guy who's competing for a major championship.

You might have to cut that out of the podcast. I just wanted to touch it. No, Joel knows that. Joel knows I want to touch him. Another thing that we need to talk about that happened on that 17th T that the cameras did not catch. And I know Frankie knows what I was talking about. Jason Duffner's group came up onto that T-box.

And he was standing off to the left, like getting ready to hit. And Frankie and I were looking down on our phones. I think Jake was looking at his phone too. Trying to find the clip of Joel Damon. So Joel Damon has just happened, right? Joel Damon, the craziest interaction that we've ever had comes up to us, leaves, we're on our phone. One guy from Germany, I don't even know if you explain that. One guy from Germany was like, you're on the broadcast on ESPN.

No one else in the world sent it to us. Just this one legend with an iPad from Germany. We're like, did this just play on the Germany product? Like, do they have specific cuts for Germany that we're on that one? Like, we didn't understand what was happening. So we're looking at our phone trying to find Joel. And someone behind us, Trent, goes. Yes.

Duffner's just staring at you guys right now And we all look up at the same time And Duff Daddy is standing over us Just staring a hole through our chest And we're like, what is happening? And I look at him, I'm like, he was like, He was like eight feet from us. Like he wasn't on the other side of the Teabox

staring at us looking at our phones. He was about as close as you can be While it's like still a comfortable distance Just staring at us And when we look up, he continued to stare at us. And I think the crowd started to like laugh They're like, what's he doing? Oh shit.

And like, He kind of like smirked and just looked back towards the golfers and then never came over and explained what happened. So it was, it almost reminded me of one of those moments at like a hockey or baseball game where the Jumbotron during like the intermission or something will lock on people on their phones. And the Islanders will do this sometimes and they'll they'll put the timer on on the bottom left. And like how long can they see that we're not staring at them on the Jumbotron? Because these idiot millennials are on their phones at a fucking professional golf tournament. Now we were looking for something like actively trying to. trying to find. We were on streams or whatever. And like, he must have been locked on us for what

felt like a minute or two. And like, because someone behind us in the gallery is like, dude, you guys have to look up. Like Jason, like, Duffner is like legitimately not stop looking at you until you make eye contact with him. There's something there. I don't know what it was. I don't know. I'd love to get an answer from him at some point because he was very clearly pretty close to us and just staring through us. And he never came over like Frankie said to be like like, hey, what's up? None of that. But I don't think, like, I was going back and forth in my head trying to think if it was a negative or a positive interaction. I don't know. I really don't know either, but he did smirk at the end and then he hit his shot. But it was just a very odd thing.

It was, I think what I said. There was like a little laugh at the end or something or no. Like, do you think there was anything to it? I think it was the Jumbo Trot thing where it's like, look at these idiots on their phone. I think he must have given the gallery like an eye, like, look at these guys. Like, their heads are all done. I'm looking at it. him. You know what I mean? So. It was weird. But the 17th team box is got like a sense of humor. So I was thinking like he was doing that out of some sort of joke or like the look at

these idiots like the jumbo trom thing. I tried to sneak in a joke and I was like, what are you staring at our guy's hat? And because like Jake was wearing an Alabama hat. So I know that they've had a huge. I mean, I don't know. We ever talked about that. But Jake and Duffner like went at it at Kisner's charity foundation. Big time.

Was it Auburn versus? Is he an Auburn guy? So it was Auburn versus Alabama? So like I thought maybe he remembered that. I mean, what are the odds that Jake was wearing an Alabama hat? He argued with Jake at Kessler's Foundation. So maybe, I don't know. I don't fucking know.

I'm so awkward. What's up, Jake? Oh, Auburn Golf. Look at that. War Eagle. War damn eagle. LTP. Oh, yeah. The best part is Jake is literally mad back there,

which is why I brought when I kept the shirt here. Do we have any more highlights here before we get into the LTCHA? TP? Oh, Jake can't respond because of the audio. Mm-hmm. Sure. The only other thing I wanted to say was just that the PGA Championship delivers. We all have shit on the PGA Championship many times.

I don't even should. It just doesn't like, we've just talked about it a lot, is it's not the British Open, it's not the U.S. Open, it's not the Masters. It's a major, but it's like the PGA, and they moved around because they're trying to get on a different part of the schedule where they're not, like, kind of the last major, and everybody kind of knows. that. But man, the PGA Championship delivers. Like Tiger and Brooks in 2018 at Bel-Rive, Bel-Riv, was amazing. Like Tiger in 2000, I was talking with my boy Joe Shoe, who like runs, works up at

Greyhawk and is very, very important up at Greyhawk and kind of run that whole place. They got the E&CA championships going on the next two weeks. And he was talking about the PGA championship in in 2000 and how the year 2000, which was obviously like Tiger's big year, like their course list was like the Masters obviously had Augusta. The U.S. Open had Pebble Beach. The British Open had the old course at St. Andrews. And then the PGA championship had like Valhalla in like Kentucky. And people like, you know, whatever.

And guess what? It was the best one. Like fucking Bob May and Tiger Bulls shot like 31 in the back nine. It had to make huge putts in the last hole. And in the first playoff hole, Tiger chases the ball into his one. from like 20 feet away and like the PGA championship over the years like last year morikawa with no fans on 16 like drove it to seven feet and like made eagle and there were 10 different guys that could have won so I just wanted to give a shout out to the PGA

championship because the way they set those courses up the venues that they pick and the way that they do it I think it over the others almost like maybe maybe Augusta's the one that they don't have it over because the back night of Augusta we could all go into that but man it feels like they do it. deliver it as high of a rate or higher of a rate than any other tournament in the world. Yeah, and it's the play that's going to separate it or make it noteworthy, right? Like, they can move it all around the calendar they want, and I know some events, they throw money at things, and they think that's going to make it better.

But, like, Brooks' domination of the PJ Championships as of late, the Brooks Phil today, like the Colin Moorakawa, the Bell Reeve with Brooks and Tiger, like, those are the things that are going to make the PJ Championship noteworthy. You can put it anywhere on the schedule that you want. But it's guys playing well. It's guys like Phil winning. Those are what's going to make people want to tune in the PJ Championship. And you're right.

Like these last couple of years, it's been fantastic. I don't know if it'll ever elevate to a level that they want to be at or whatever. But the way that it's been going, like the PJ Championship, I look forward to that just like any other major. Like it's an awesome, awesome tournament. It's just that's the way it is. Shout out Seth Waugh. Seth Waugh is a genius. he's our golden cookie nugget and everything about i mean i don't know that we talked about this

maybe we did and we always do that on this fucking podcast we like i don't know if i said this yet but um i i saw seth while and i just hugged him like a like i was his son i mean we legitimately embraced each other like we hadn't seen each other like i just got back from war it was it was insane so that's the kind of guy that they got running over there that they got running the uh running the running the ship? I don't know. What's going on? What's going on? Yeah, running the ship works. There you go. Running the ship over there.

So, you know, that's the kind of guy. They got running the ship over there. You know? I mean, Seth was as big as a dude as you can be. I mean, he's... He's great. When he came on our show, we saw it right away. He's got that charisma.

He's got that pizzazz. He's got the class. And when a guy like that's running the ship, you know that it's going to be a good product. Seth was not going to be in charge of some Rinky Dink championship, okay? He knows what golf needs. He talked about it beautifully on this podcast about the game of golf. I think he had a couple quotes that we wanted to turn into, like,

inspirational posters to hang in our room. He had a tough virtual exit on our podcast. You remember that? He did. He's definitely a CEO. He's not the guy that signs off in the Cisco chat before. Also, we got a guy here that can put on a golf tournament in 12 hours for 48 college golfers but can't get his audio to work for half an hour while I'm sitting in a hundred-degree room.

I'm talking about radio. I'm the only guy that's ever had audio with you. No, but it's starting to become a problem. 28 minutes? 28 minutes. It's starting to become an issue. You had to buy a new microphone because we thought that was the issue, and that's just not the issue. Okay, but I also, it was 28 minutes too, but like, no one was offering, you guys were blabbering on.

Nobody was, like, offering any help anything. Nobody's looking at it. Trent's got the same mic. Nobody was like, well, I actually had this experience. So I was just, I couldn't hear anybody. So was I supposed to? I was just sitting here. I could have done that.

Next time I'm going to do that for like an hour and a half. Just sit here. We said like, well, there's a drop down there. You just got to click it. You got to click the microphone. And then we also said, But wait, but wait. We said, just figure it out.

Like I was just saying figure it up. But every, yeah, because every suggestion we were going to give would have felt like we were babying you. Like we were being condescending where it's like, hey, if you could just. Did you try to plug it in? Right. Dude, Larch wanted us to text you and say, turn the volume up. And I was like, are you insane? We're on the 26 minute.

I was like, who's going to text them to say, turn the volume up? And everybody's like, I'm just not doing it. So we'll just, we'll let this one go. Anyway, talk to us about the LTP. It looked like a fucking raging success, man. So the LTP was incredible. Another thing that's incredible I want to get into first, the Bush and out wingman.

We talked about this a lot of the speaker. It's the coolest thing ever. It's got GPS built into a really high quality, sound quality Bluetooth speaker. So I actually, like, when we go on vacation, we go on our golf trips, I don't bring a Bluetooth speaker for the hotel room if we're going to hang a little bit. I literally just use the wingman because the sound quality is so good on it. And the thing's awesome. It comes with like a ball marker size button that you put in your pocket.

You can actually just use it to mark your ball if you want. It's literally like a ball marker. You press the button. It just gives you distance to the front, the back, the center. It's got on the app too that you sync it up to the Bushnell app. It just gives you the aerial bird's eye view of the hole. So if you're playing a place for the first time, you just look, you can click on the, you can just push on your screen where that bunker is. It tells you exactly how far that bunker is. Hit the button and it just gives you the distance while playing the music. The thing is awesome.

So you go to bushnellgolf.com slash four. Order your wingman golf speaker today because the thing is awesome. It's a good Father's Day gift, to be honest. I really think that you're going to stun older generation golfers. You're going to be like, hey, man, like this is what we're all doing on the golf course now. We're listening to music. We're getting yardages. We're not walking over to sprinkler heads anymore.

golf courses aren't putting in the white and red and blue stakes anymore. We're going to start going to nicer courses and we're going to need yardages. We're going to need pin seekers. And what this is is an easy way for them to get yardages. I honestly think it's going to be the easiest way for these people to get the yardages and be able to have some fun. So you sync it up for them, wherever you got to do technology wise. But once it's all ready to rock, it's going to be a great gift for people. Just look into it.

I'm telling you. If you're deciding on what to get, it's going to be a great wow fast. actor gift. Bushnellgolf.com slash 4. They really are awesome. You got to get them. They're just the perfect addition to your

golf bag. The let them play was a I mean, it went awesome. It went extremely, extremely well. I know a lot of people have seen a lot of the footage at this point. We were of course putting it out, you know, everywhere that we possibly could.

And it was, it was, it was, there's a couple big takeaways for me. One was just like the girls were awesome. Like they were so, they were very cool. They were very good at golf, which shouldn't be surprising. But like how often have any of us really watched college women's golf? Probably never or next to never.

Like people just don't spend enough time watching women's sports, especially a niche thing like college women's golf. They were just sick. Like they all just stepped up on the first tee. It was a tense situation because, everybody knew was getting so much media coverage. It had been talked about so much. We put the video out Wednesday night,

so they knew all of these big names were paying attention. We get up to that first tea. And I'm thinking, like, how in the fuck is somebody going to hit a good tea shot right now? And it was just 40-plus girls step up and just roasted tea shots. And I just was like, okay, yeah, they're just unreal. I mean, one girl, Audrey Tan, who won the whole thing, she just shot nine under over three rounds. of golf. And the first day, it was very windy and it was really hot. Like, especially, you know,

and then the last day in the afternoon, the last nine holes, it was super windy. There was only one round in the 60s, and she shot 68 and won the whole thing, posted nine under. So, like, how good they were at golf was awesome. There's very much an appetite for watching them play, because it's just fun. It's a different kind of game, too. Like, we've all played with guys that play college golf or that are really good we play with it. And like for the most part, they step up and they just roast it and then they kind of find it wherever it ends up. And dude, the women are so accurate. It's insane. Like they just hit the ball on the par three. It's like they always miss on the correct side of the pin just below the hole where they hit it right at it. Off the

tee, they hit every single fairway. Like no one's ever really in the desert. And they're just really fun to watch how good there. And a lot of them too. Like a lot of them are small. Like you just don't like you're like oh go look at this like she's adorable great and then she steps up and just rips it like oh fuck like let's go so um that part of it was really cool our team was laughing a lot like the production crew of like because they've come and they filmed the barstool classics before and they're like man is this different like we stand behind one part three being like all right let's get a couple six shots we'll probably be here for an hour or two whatever and they're like all three in the first group just six shot six shot we can just move on to the next thing

like Barcelona Classic, we had to stand there for an hour before somebody and try to get like footage of it. So it was, it was very cool watching them play. I thought too, like they, like they all had, a bunch of them had, you know, really cool like locker room teammate type personalities. They're busting each other's balls hard. It got to the point where like we built up a little bit of rapport. Like the Mississippi State girls, one of them came off the tea after absolutely piping one

and just walked by me and was like, can you do that, Rigsie? You know, so, like, they were, like, chirping and, like, you know, their, their teammates that, like, take a lot of shit and, and, and give it back. And, like, and so just kind of having that rapport and all of that going on while everyone was having, you know, a good kind of finale experience was cool. We spent a lot of time with, like, a few of the different ladies, parents that had made the trip. And, you know, they were just, they were so kind. They were so appreciative. They were offering up to, like, the perspective of a parent that you don't think about and how shitty the whole thing was. for them because like you want the best for your kid obviously um but usually you can influence it you

can like you know pay for them to go to school or pay you know have them go to an awesome vacation or get them a tutor if they need or whatever but in this situation like they couldn't do anything like the parents were watching their their kids be miserable because their seasons and careers were ended in the parking lot show Frankie and SVP um and and they couldn't do anything and the parents felt so helpless and then all of a sudden they got to come out and have like this finale experience. So hanging out with the parents was really really cool. A lot of

them or a few different girls had family that lived within five or ten hours that drove and surprised them for the final round. And so it was just kind of the whole thing was it was a lot. I cried probably a handful of times at the end of it, but I will say in my defense

I think our entire staff on Friday when we were doing the Cisco videos with the families everybody cried like Devlin who's our social guy who came over to us after and was like I was pretty convinced I didn't have a single emotional like cell left of my body and he's like and I was tearing up during a couple of those calls with people's family so the whole thing was just like it was off the charts it's um it's one thing that I you know I kind of said in a few different interviews when I really was thinking about it because I had like a 40 minute drive each way

to and from the course I was just kind of thinking about the whole thing a lot and I was thinking like the whenever you do work and whenever you focus on something put a ton of effort into something that is for others it's such a different return right like when you're working on stuff that just makes like your own life better it's very like selfish and you're self-consumed and you have to be that way to some degree in order to get through like when you're working on shit to like check boxes and get stuff done because you know it's going to improve the lives of others and then you see that it does it's just like it's like the reason

that you're actually supposed to fucking be here it's like oh that makes sense that we're different than like a plant like that's like what we as human beings can actually do

and seeing that pay off and how gracious everybody was it was for me and I think like Lisa and a lot of the people Justin about a lot of the folks that worked on it

it was the coolest thing in my career that like we've been a part of by far yeah and I mean the perception on social media

and even just us being out there at Kiowa, just everyone just couldn't believe, number one, how good the girls were, right? And it sucks out like you can't believe how good they are, like you're saying. Like, there should be more eyeballs on it. And I think for something like this, it was a blessing in disguise that they did get more eyeballs on it. The video that's going to come out, that, you know, eBug and all the guys, it looked like Steve was down there, Devlin, all those guys that were filming, that video will be, like, unreal

to be able to watch the skill and watch, like, what, you know, what should happen in the future. They should have more eyeballs. They should have a lot more hype around, you know, their seasons and, and everything that they got going on. So that's awesome, the fact that you're able to do that. And just, yeah, the family stuff was unbelievable. I was with a couple of friends the other night and, like, that came up.

And it's just like, you watch it. You have to turn it off. You're like, I can't. I mean, I'm in public. I can't watch that. Like, what do we do? Like, the girl walks by. She comes back.

She's like, what is going on? She starts, like, nervously laughing. Her whole family is on the Cisco WebEx. it's like, all right, I got, I can't. I'm like ordering ice cream right now. I was just scrolling the timeline and I just can't deal with that. So, you know, no, I hope to, I hope this continues in some fashion. I don't know like what the future plans are for, but I'd love to be at one because, you know,

it was a major sense of like, FOMO of not being there. Honestly, like, it felt like the right place to be more than the Kiowa, like, you know, the PGA championship. That's how crazy of a successful thing it was. and like that feeling of putting on for others, I know exactly what you're talking about. It is like a better feeling than working for yourself. But we said that with my dad all the time.

We'd open up on Christmas morning Borrellys for the needy families and stuff and 250 people would come. And we'd be like, Dad, you work every single day. Why don't just take Christmas off, right? He's like, those days, like, just aren't like, this is my favorite day to work of the year because, like, we're actually doing something for people. We're not, like, trying to sell a pizza to make money for us to, like, pay our rent. We're actually just, like, giving people something that they,

they wouldn't have had if we didn't go into work. And you gave people a tournament that they wouldn't have had if you didn't go into work that day. And that's fucking awesome. That feeling is what drives you. Like, he looks forward to this Christmas now. That, like, you know what I mean? It's, that's, that's what will drive, hopefully the brand and, like, every, like, golf and

college golf for forever. Like, this, this can now help women's golf in a better way. And that's just awesome. Yeah. And I don't think it has to be the last one. Like, it's, I think it's without question. the coolest thing that Thorplay's ever done is the LTP. I mean, like, there was clearly a miss, and Greg's team basically put on this incredible

event. And I agree, the one aspect of all your interviews and all the content coming out that I didn't foresee and really just didn't think about it was like the parenting, like, you just want the best for a kid. You want that aspect. And, like, that showed true in so many different ways. But, yeah, I mean, it was just spectacular. It was spectacular.

So it's a job well done. and I don't think that it's the last one either, just on how well it did and, you know, bringing eyes to other events. I think there's a lot of avenue for that. Yeah, they were very much, they were requesting and hoping there be another LTP, and Eric and I, you know, been texting,

and a lot of it was just a lot of, like, congrats. Like, I can't believe we pulled this off. This is amazing, but there's an appetite for it. So, you know, we're going to pursue it. You know, and as a squad, as a team, here, you know, the more events we could put on, the better. And I, you know, again, I think, like, one of the main reasons I wanted to harp on the level of play is because, like, people, as we've mentioned, don't give enough credit to women's sports. And you think in the back here, like,

oh, yeah, maybe because it's, who knows, is it not the same? Like, watching them play was fucking awesome. Like, it was so fun to watch them play and follow them around and watch for five or six holes as they like navigated their way through the round and and fought certain stuff and then bounced back. It was so impressive watching them hit shots, watching them get up and down from all over the place. Like they stood in the putting green man on Wednesday, especially, and like they just didn't miss a putt. They made everything. And Lisa just kept looking out being like, I've never seen that before. At all of our tournaments, people putt for two hours straight, nobody makes one. And then, you know, they're just making everything. So the level of play was

was really impressive. And yeah, it is just when you're focused so hard on something that is outside of yourself and your own like self-interest, you're not doing it to improve yourself, you're doing it to give other people something that like they deserve and trying to go above and beyond to make it, you know, special, it's the easiest work in the world. And when it paid off and when you really started to see like, you know, those girls that were screaming and that were

were crying last Wednesday in Baton Rouge. Like, they have brothers, they have sisters, they have parents, grandparents that, like, were devastated for them outside of themselves being devastated clearly. They have coaches that, like, those coaches couldn't do anything. Those coaches had to answer questions the way home. You know, I think it was North Texas who had like a 10-hour drive or something back from Baton Rouge. And when the coach was just like, yeah, we were talking with the team. It's like, I don't have any answers for you guys.

I'm sorry. Like go home basically. Now is the part of the year where you just go home. And instead of that, man, they got pictures. They got videos together. And their memory won't be, you know, how a bunch of people let them down or how it had a horrible ending. It'll be a positive one where they were part of like a really cool event that didn't exist. That got a ton of exposure and people were rooting for them.

And so it was just extremely cool to see. And like there, it was it was very competitive clearly. Like people want to win these. girl, like you can't get to that level unless you're crazy competitive. But it was also the final round, you know, I was laughing that the final round seemed less tense than the first day because you could tell that it was a little bit almost of like a victory lap for everyone. Now like, whether they win or lose, it was like, we've all won because we came here and we did this together. And we threw cornhole up. People were playing some

cordhole after and just kind of hanging out and reminiscing over the whole thing. So it was awesome. University of North Texas, they posted 11 under and won the entire thing. They have a really good team. It's like one of their best teams in years, and they easily could have made a run. I mean, I'm looking at the women's standings over at Greyhawk right now, and there's one team under par through three rounds of golf. Now, obviously, it's a different course, probably set up a little tougher, but like UNT, like the mean green from North Texas were 11 under par,

Stanford is 18 under par, Duke, who's in second place, the NCAAs right now is too overpar. So it's like clearly, like these teams didn't even have a chance to go to this Nationals and like they're fucking really good. So Audrey Tan, Lauren Cox, Patty Sinalungan, Emily Rico, who had an ace in the practice round, by the way. Katie Finley, Sharia Powell, then their coach, Mike Lakers. They were just awesome.

They came in. They dominated. They played really, really well, and they got it done. So it was awesome. It just went extremely well. We obviously appreciate everybody supporting it covering it. And we're not going to, we're not going to. to stop and it's got a great backstory so if you i mean if we run an event in the future if you get

five 10 15 years into this thing you start talking about the let them play like the origin story is off the charts it's off the charts and yeah it's just really good for women's golf in general it's got great um feedback you know from all i mean like daniel rapaport that was right daniel rapaport was the one who wrote that article and he came up to us on the driving range just like really fucking awesome what riggs and you guys are doing out there couldn't have been more um You know, just, he honestly felt like appreciative for the game and just like, when you have a platform like this to be able to do some cool things. And oddly, the pandemic and this world that we're now living in has, as granted us the opportunities of Barstool to be to be able to do things with our platform that necessarily I didn't think we'd ever be able to pull off. Like the fucking Barstool fund raising almost $40 million for small business, something like this where like the way the world is and just the circumstances that happened, they couldn't play.

their fucking championship and their final, you know, qualifying event and we're able to throw this together because we happen to have another tournament that we have everything in place that we can just now move that to, it's just crazy that all the things that could happen with our platform and the way that we run this, this operation that we could pull this off. And, you know, yeah, it's just, it's just awesome. Really great job. A big shout to Lisa, Lisa Litvak, who runs our live events, who just, you know, ran all the logistics of it. She crushed it. Justin, who works for her, he crushed it.

He came out here for pretty much the whole week. Devlin and Cody did the social. We had eBug was out there with Snapchat, Steve. They were cranking the production on the cameras. Jackie, who's our PR, she came out, managed all the PR. And then Drew, aka Phoenix Dave from Whirlwind, just crushed it for them. He was supposed to have Thursday Friday off, like I said, and he instead was up at like 5 a.m. every day, just running this tournament.

So their whole staff there, Louis and the whole squad at World Win was awesome. And yeah, it was just a crazy collaborative effort that got it done. And everyone was just pulling in the same direction to give the girls the best experience. And somehow we pulled it off. True is actually playing in the Barstow Classic tomorrow now. So good luck to him and his boy. And then the partner, Cisco, Whoop, G4, Taylor-made, Bushnell, and Trifecta. They came on and put up the money that covered all those girls' expenses.

So they didn't have to pay for flights, transportation, hotel, food. It was all covered because of those partners came in and because people bought merch. So just an insanely collaborative thing. It was awesome to do stuff for other people. The coolest part of my career by far was watching them just be happy. And like in the year with smiles and pictures and videos that they'll remember forever. So, oh, and Zach, our guy from Cleveland who drove 30 hours just to photograph the whole event, that guy's awesome. So he legit was just tweeting at me.

I responded. We covered his hotel and his expenses, and he drove from Cleveland to take pictures the whole time, and he was just working his ass off. He'd be away for an hour. He'd come flying back, running across the course, airdrop me a bunch of pictures, and then go out and do it again.

So just a million people worked their asses off to make it happen, and the girls were cool as shit. They were so appreciative. They kept, a bunch of them gave me, like, you know, they wrote notes for me and Lisa and a few others, or they gave us gifts, and I cried every time. So it was awesome. The whole thing was fantastic.

Glad to hear it. That's awesome. I'm well done. and honestly look forward to the next one. And what do you think the tier count was at? I mean, you said, you know, maybe a half dozen times, but then he's cried every time we got a note. There was how many golfers?

So what was the number do we think? No, I would say it was probably five if you count every time on Friday. So Wednesday night when I was given the little opening remarks, I choked up. Mostly I knew the video was coming, and I was like the whole thing was kind of a lot. And Thursday I was fine. And then Friday I was pretty fine until we started showing.

showing those videos. There were a few moments in between that when, like, Nicole Schroeder's mom was awesome and she was there and she came over to me, you know, a few different times and just, like, she would get emotional when she was telling me what all it meant to them. So it was like, if somebody's like right in front of me that starts tearing up telling me how much this means to them, like, I'm going to fucking tear up every time. So that, you know, you could count that, I guess, but that was just kind of between her and I, I wasn't necessarily bawling. When the few of the videos. Like the first video, you know, we had a few different from Spain and the first girl came by and her, you know, it was like 10 p.m. local time in Spain. So like her whole family was all

having a bunch of beers and like a siesta and like all on a on a Cisco call together. A Cisco WebEx call and she like stumbled upon it and was like, oh my God, and like join and they're all like speaking Spanish together, which we couldn't understand. So like I lost it during that. And then the video that I that we kind of tweeted out with Nicole from Oregon State who like didn't know what's going on came back and then like started crying when she saw her whole family like that made me pull my eyes out and then we had um izzie from Oregon State who she's from Australia she made the comment she was the only that we did wasn't a senior but she had made a comment that she basically hadn't seen her family in two years because of COVID being from Australia so then we we rushed

rushed it to try to get her family's contact info. We surprised her during the whole thing with her mom. And that was like waterworks through the whole thing. And it was funny too because like her mom couldn't figure out like the mute button. And it was like going back or forth. So yeah, I mean, once we got to that part of it on Friday, it was waterwork. I'd say probably five times. I was legitimately like crying.

Hold on. Jimmy Vee, you know. There he goes. Jimmy V. All days. All right, what a week in golf. What a week for golf in general, women's golf. Phil Mickelson, PGA Championship.

Congrats to Phil. Congrats to North Texas. Congrats to the PGA of America and Kiowa Island. I thought it dominated. Great week for the fellas down there. And Kiowa putting out video after video after video. So it was just a huge week. And now we've got two Barstool classics,

based Monday and Tuesday in Arizona. We got another one in Denver on Friday. We got a ton more videos to roll out. So just keeps rolling, fellas. Shout out to Uptown Social down in Charleston for a great watch party. We were calling it a meet and greet at one point, which it just wasn't. We really... We were telling the best golfers in the world when we would talk to them on the range.

They were like, oh, what's the rest of your week look like? And we would say, oh, we're going to a meet and greet. And they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? I think Harry Higgs was like, what are you going to? And I'm like, it's just sorry, man. Dewean, Jewelian, do it. Sorry, man. Yeah, Dewey and JT, my JT, John Tilly were like, they were just busting our balls the whole time about

because we told them meet and greeting. They were like, you guys are fucking nobodies. Everyone that showed up, it was a transfusion. Owens Mixers transfusion party. We had frozen transfusions, which are a game changer. Absolute game changer. I mean, I had one too many soda pops, as the kids say. And what they did was they put the Islander game on for me downstairs.

I did a nice little outfit change and I felt like I was at home. But it was just a fantastic place. Every single person we met at that bar couldn't have been nicer. Everyone that came out, thank you so much. A lot of you are big fans, which to me is insane. Like, they knew everything about us. They knew everything about the podcast. And that was just awesome to see up front.

It's like, it's just so cool to actually meet the people that listen to the show. And somehow, some way, I had that bar chanting for the blue and orange, man. Like, we really had that place going fucking crazy. It happened to be one of the crazier playoff hockey games in, like, recent history. I mean, there was, there was. there were goals every two seconds. No one could understand what was happening. They're down 3-1.

They score two goals in 20 seconds. It's 3-3. Then every time the Islanders score, the Penguin score a minute later, then the Islander score a minute later. We didn't get the W, which was heartbreaking. But yeah, no, it was a fun time. And the owner of that bar is a diehard Ranger fan.

So he texted me the next night, like, dude, thanks for rocking that place. Like, criminal to see that place going crazy for the Islanders. like just never thought in a million years that that would happen in Charleston. He kind of got away from New York. And now it's like, because he has like the 13th step. He's got a bunch of places in New York. And big Rangers guy.

And now he's down here in Charleston, like running one of the best bars in Charleston. And like I just come stumbling and I turn it into an islander bar. It's kind of just very, it's kind of funny. Like that guy's path in his life. So no, yeah, uptown social. Great spot to be if you're in downtown Charleston. I want to go back because we didn't really get to experience it much. We were at the golf course so much,

and we only got there for the game and the watch party. So, yeah, shout out to Charleston. The meet and greet. Yeah, nice meeting and great. Me and great. Great people down there. Watch party. It is stunning when you see in real life people that are actually, like,

listening to it. Like, there's concrete evidence that people listen to what we say. I, like, questioned each person. Yeah, I actually made them feel like losers. I'm like, you listen to our show. What? He's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Isn't that, like, the goal?

I was like, ah, shit, you're right. No, but they're just, they are just the coolest people of all time. Everyone just loves golf down there. Every time, you almost meet, like, the same person each time. They, like, they know an inside joke about the podcast. They'll say something that, like, will make you chuckle. And then they'll be, like, where are you guys playing? Like, do you guys want to come play with us?

Like, every single person just loves golf and wants us to play and experience their home course, their favorite, like, they want us to go to their favorite destination. You know what I mean? Like, they all just care about us experiencing it because they want to hear if It's the same experience that they had. That's the one thing I've gathered is like everyone just wants to kind of hear like us go to different places because they, that's their favorite place. And what are we going to say about it? So, um, yeah, the travel series I think needs to keep growing.

And everyone wants to watch Trent fucking break 100. It's like the biggest thing in the world. I mean, the big, aside from the LTP and aside from the PGA championship, the biggest talk of Keow Island was Trent breaking 100. I mean, it was insane. Yeah. No, every single person I ran into. to fans or, you know, PJ Tour players alike, where like, is it happening, when is it happening? I didn't have a great answer for him because I'm like, I'm just working on it.

And I've got this new swing that JT is trying to help me with. But they're, I mean, yeah, it's very anticipated. People can't wait to watch. Those videos will be coming out, you know, within the next couple weeks. And then I just got to keep playing rounds and I got to keep getting better. So, but yeah, a lot of people, it's a lot of anticipation for the breaking 100. Are you feeling the pressure of kind of the world on the shoulders now? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, big time. Big time. Because, like, it's going to be tough. It's, you know, I'm going to have to really work at it. But it's cool. It's cool to have people be like, you know, I can't wait for it to happen or I really want it to happen. So, you know, I got a lot of momentum. If people want a series, if people want a series to, like, sit down and watch and binge, like,

Trent's going to have to not break 100 for a couple episodes here. You know what I mean? So, like, they should be happy that it's a grind. Like that we said it's not just duct tape on a little boo-boo. We're deconstructing the whole thing. We are full on-a-wis- Your sayings are just way off the night. Duck tape on a boo-boo? It's like, what do we even do here?

So what I wanted to say was like duct tape on like a, on like a hole in a boat, but I just couldn't think of that like word. So I kind of combined it with. Duct tape on a boo-boo would be overkill. You'd be. It would get the job done It just would probably end up with some sort of infection That's what I'm saying

You'd be holding it fucking Nothing would get out of that cut You saw somebody's kid go by with duct tape On their skin You'd have to be those parents would be right People definitely want a Breaking 100 series And I'm here to tell them I'm likely going to deliver a series

Of Breaking 100 Because I know we dance around it I've played one round And it's just like We gotta keep it moving So it's gonna be a series Get ready to watch some footage, right? Like, we were talking about how we're going to release it.

And, like, they have a ton of footage from Trent's, like, breaking down to the swing. So that's going to be, like, an unbelievable episode. And then we're going to get right into these rounds, man. Like, we're just going to try and break 100. Like, that's just what's going to happen. That's the series. Trent's going to just try and break 100. And we're going to film it.

And we're going to keep putting them out until he just does it. So either hop on board or just, you know, see you later. Astana mania man. Auvoir. People are into it. You guys are into it. You guys watch the Formula One show. You guys watch a Formula One show?

No, I need to watch a Formula One show. It's a great show. Fucking fantastic with PH's things. Shout out Phil Mickelson for winning the PJ Championship. Fucking fantastic. Shame what happened. I watched the, uh, Moni Carlo. You know, the whole.

Right. I'm now a fan of Formula One. It's just crazy that I know Formula One now because I watch a Netflix show. I have played. play the video game. It's just fun. You know, it's just a fun,

it's just a fun, a fun sport. It's fun sporting event. I like the accents. I like the drama. I just like everything about it. I think it's very, very insane that these guys go that fast and they're,

I mean, they're, you're talking about athletes. It's like, their fucking hand-eye coordination. You don't think so, man. Yeah.

Oh, Max, they're doing stuff that I can't. No, I think, I think you're an awesome, man. You can't stick your fat ass and that fucking thing.

offensive lineman? No, no, I'm... Come on. Sorry to be blunt, but you ain't getting in a fucking... You ain't getting in a fucking... Frank who took that F1 attack so seriously that he called Lurch a fat ass who could not get in an F1 car. Frankie's been at me all show here.

I don't know, Frankie's just always got beef. Just a little big. I'm hot, dude. I'm hot. I'm fucking hot, man. We got it in the show. I'm sorry. I apologize.

It's probably like a little, like... It's not an... Yeah, I understand that. There's something going out. We've gone through a lot of stuff. But PJ was awesome. LTP was awesome. Trent's going to break 100.

It's going to be awesome. We'll be back in theory on Thursday. We obviously want to put out a quick reaction show because this is an iconic win. So we hope you have a lovely week. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.