Fore Play - PIP Patrol, Post-Holiday Gloom, Banger & Mash

Episode Date: January 4, 2022

Phil Mickelson claims he won the PIP. We react. It’s the first-week post-holiday season. We react. Trent crushed banger and mash before a long redeye. We react. Plus the show has a few resolutions.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Four Play, I'm right Barstool Sports. Welcome to 2022. What a day. We're recording on Monday. It is the day after basically two weeks of break for the entire world. People are just on edge and shitty and feeling really shitty about the future and about the next two or three months.

And that's kind of how we're starting the show and our pre-chatter. And it's just, it's just. energy's low. Nobody wants to nobody wants to be on this end of what the last two or three weeks are supposed to be and what the next two or three months is supposed to be. And here we are and we're fucking doing it. We do have a lot of exciting things to talk about.

But there's no getting around the fact that this is just the period and time in relation to the rest of the year that we're in right now. A lot of hype for the holidays and they're just gone. And a lot of hype for a lot of things and all that stuff is gone. And what's ahead is doom and gloom and winter and cold and things are frozen and dead. And that's pretty much where we're at. So good to see you, boys. Yeah, good to see you guys.

Easily one of the worst days of the year. I want to start off by apologizing for my betrayal to Frankie Barrelli. We were on a text last night with Jake Bass. He asked us if we were coming into the studio. And at the time, I thought I was going to be in the studio. And then I remembered I have a doctor's appointment by my apartment right after this. So it wouldn't make sense for me to go all the way into the office and then come all the way back. So I'm not in the office. Although I don't. I did not send Frankie Borrelli a text saying that I'm not going to be there. He bit my head off a little bit when we first jumped in here because he's at the office. And it's just, Riggs is right.

This is, it's just a tough time a year. And I know everyone who's working in a cube. I worked in a cube for years. Coming back from this break is just as bad as it gets. So I want to try, I want to start off with an apology to Frankie. I hopefully that brings up the vibes a little bit. But I don't know if it's going to work. I don't know if it's going to work because this is a, it's a tough time of year for sure.

No, it'll work. I mean, at the end of the day, I was just in one of those moods sitting on the train, empty train. People are observing New Year's Day, even though it's the third. I don't even know what that means. I was saying that to them before we jumped in here. I was looking down on 2nd Avenue where I live and there's no cars. It's completely dead out there.

Half the city is. I didn't hear of this being an off day, though. Somehow, like some people have off on this. They're observing New Year's Day because it fell on the weekend. so they need to get that day in. It's one of their holidays, which I get. But for me, but for me, you know, we do the podcast via the internet all the time. I have a nice little setup.

So one of the reasons I was coming into the office specifically this morning was to see Trent's, you know, nice vibe, his beautiful face, that nice barstool golf hoodie he wears. I wanted to just get my eyes on him, that Iowen. And I walked in here and I saw Trent on the screen and I got pretty upset. So, but now that I'm here, I'm settled. I feel good. It's going to be a good day in the office. I'm sure the big man, the eagle, as we call them, will be in here.

So it's good to just be in the mix again in New York City. I feel like everyone's been all over the place. And, yeah, it's just going to be good to feel the energy of Barstles Sports. I haven't felt it in quite some time. So since the last time we did a show, the Arizona Bowl was canceled. The scramble and the golf aspect of it was the only thing that went on. We've had the announcements of the PIP winners. Phil Mickelson kind of cucked the pip, it feels like, by just, which we can get into,

tweeting out the results that he won, that he was victorious, and then that kind of set off a shitstorm of people going back and forth and refuting claims. We've got to shout out dude wipes really quickly. All right, you can use the code 415, F-O-R-E-5 at dudewipes.com. I've got to tell you, you know, we've been in many situations where I've needed dude wipes. In fact, we did an entire travel series where if I didn't have dude wives, I wouldn't have had clothes that I could have worn in public or been presentable because those things can can literally save your ass. And why? Why? If you had a dish with a bunch of stains on it, a bunch of food that's

kind of stuck to the plate, would you just take like dry, a dry piece of paper and try to get it off? No, you need something that's not some, a little moisture to it, a little texture that's designed to clean it nicely. And that's what Dudewipes does. So again, you go to dudewipes.com. You get 15% off with the code 415. Great company. I got our friend Harry Higgs is a dude wife's guy. I like my asshole wet. I don't know about you guys.

Not, well, good wet, clean wet. You don't want what happened to Riggs up there in Michigan. Clean or wrong wet. It's a wrong wet. Let me clarify. I like my asshole clean wet. A good clean wet. I will also.

I do like your line of it saves your ass, but I think the real thing that it saves is the shit stain in the shorts because that's what you're trying to avoid and that's what we saw up there in Michigan. So I would say, yes, it does save your ass,

but really what you're trying to avoid is that little driplet in the old pants. You just don't want to be noticeable for the wrong reasons. That's just, you know. Do you guys remember the first time you started using like moist towelettes

for the bum area and how much of a, it just felt like an invention. I felt like I was holding the iPhone for the first. time. For years. For years.

I remember the first one I touched and I was like, oh, that's different. Mine was at like a buddy's house. And I'm like, you guys do that, you guys do this at this house? Like we just didn't use,

um, baby wipes for, for like toilets and, and wiping our ass and, and dude wipes. So I, I never really thought of it. Maybe when I was a,

like a baby boy and, and they used to wipe my ass for me. They did it, did that, but in my, did not have toilet paper there? They just have, well,

they did, but there was like a whole assortment of different products for you to choose from. So I remember just walking into this bathroom, having to take a shit, and then I look up and there's the dude wipes sitting next to toilet paper. And I'm like, wow, I can attack it with the wetness first and then dry it off at the end. I walked out of there squeaky clean. I couldn't believe my eyes were just.

It was like I had seen Jesus for the first time. I couldn't believe what happened. And I have not turned back since. You can't live in a world where you've used that once and then never do it again. You have to continuously wipe your ass with the most of that way. You guys ever do a bidet situation? I've done a bidet. I did a bidet in Dave Portnoy's room at the Super Bowl house.

Remember that? Before he got there, we were all checking out the houses, and then his room just had an unbelievable bidet. Turns out, I don't even think he ended up coming. It was a huge, it was that when we went to Pebble Beach, right? It was a huge house, ridiculous house in, like, Carmel, California, whatever. And it was a huge risk to go in there and take it. that shit because I'm like, what if Dave just comes while I'm doing this?

And then he ended up not coming to California. Yeah. I would have, every time I look at a day, I'm like, that's interesting, but I'm not sitting down on it. Same. I just can't do it. The next time, I've never used one, but the next time I see one, I'm going to give it a go.

Because I'm the same way, Lurch. I've seen them in the past and I'm like, I don't even know, like, how to position myself. And it's going to make a bigger mess than I'm willing to clean up, right? now, but I think I'm making a solemn promise to myself and all the listeners. The next time I stumble upon a bidet, I'm going to give it a shot. I can help you. I get nervous. Content of that.

Any chance that will be recorded just even though. I might be some dude wipes content because I'll have such a mess everywhere that I'll have to use dude wipes to wipe down the entire room. You're going to love it. I'd be spraying the walls and shit. No, dude, you're going to love it. I fucking love that shit, man. And some of these toilets, they come with them and they're all powered where the

toilet gets hot in the morning and then all of a sudden you hit the bidet and it's got different types of sometimes it'll go poopopop or sometimes it'll be just like a long jet dude I'm hitting my asshole like those little carnival games where you try and hit the water gun what is it like a hose that comes out like it's a hose man and it's fun to try and hit the target try and get it out your mouth you know I'm going to give it a try I don't it's rare that I see a bedet and I don't know when the next time I'm going to see one but the next time I do you know they have the Toilets at all, it's an all encompassing toilet. We have to get our toilets.

We've got to get these new toilets, man. We're, we haven't. I'm living in the stone age. We're living in the stone age of toilets, man. We haven't embraced the technology. We have the Tesla of toilets out there and we're not using them. I mean, I live in a, I live in a shoe box. I can't be, there's no way it was going to come with a bidet.

I don't even think, is it a different, like, part of the toilet? What did it even fit in my bathroom? It's a little. Yeah, it's in the toilet. It's just a little. Good news. Dude Wipe has the dude wiper. 1000, which is a bidet toilet attachment.

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That's lovely. Okay. Moving on. We got a little golf to talk about. Happy year. Great. Nice there. Just like a real high pitch.

Nice. Oh, that's great. That's great. That's lovely. Happy New Year's, Ray. So the player impact program, that's been a lot of, chatter over the last, really the last year since they announced this thing. And it's sort of, you know, the PGA Tour's way to combat the new league and making

sure that their top stars don't go somewhere else. They're upping the PIP to $50 million next year. But anyways, Phil Mickelson tweeted out last week several days before the end of the year. And thus, Tiger Woods is their 46th birthday, which is on December 30th when he would get a lot of social media love. He just tweeted out, I'd like to thank all the crazies and real supporters, too, for helping me win the pip to get the second half of the money I have to add to an event. I haven't played in a while, which he's playing Capulua. P.S., I'll try and find another hot controversial topic soon

because he got into kind of schools and kids and COVID right before he won the PIP. Now, Aiman Lynch, our guy, who we love very much, a very funny little fucker, he tweeted out a little already said that he asked about Femmikasin claiming he won the $8 million pit bonus. The tour says the PIP runs until the end of the year and there's a weeks long lag in reporting metrics, which means Tiger and the PNC impact could be outstanding still. Then an independent firm must verify. Mickelson might win, but he hasn't yet, which got me thinking that it would be a diabolical move by Phil Mickelson to chum up a bunch of chatter about him winning the PIP, which would then factor

into him potentially winning the PIP, even if he had not won the PIP yet. I agree with that. and I have a question, is the PJ tour going to put out the winning list or have they put that list out? Because I remember at the beginning of all this, they had said that they were maybe not going to release the rankings, which is the stupidest thing in the world. So I was wondering if they changed their minds on that and if they've put out a list yet. I have not seen an official list. I've just seen like, you know, the sources, the usual suspects who get this kind of information just been tweeting out. I can confirm.

I think Danny Rapaport was out there. He was tweeting. you can confirm that Phil and Nicholson did win it, that Tiger Woods finished second. I saw our buddy, Kyle Morcala, was the bubble boy, I think. He finished 11th. And I think top 10 were people that got paid out for it. So I saw him kind of tweeting about that. So yeah, they're kind of leaking it, I guess.

But I don't, like, maybe the players are leaking it themselves. Like, I don't really, it's weird. So first, I agree with what you said about, that's a great way for Phil Mickelson to manipulate it right at the finish line. If he doesn't, if he thinks he's a few points behind Tiger or whoever for first play, this is a great way to drum up a bunch of clicks and interests and all that to hopefully take them across the finish line. And second, if they're not planning to put out a list, hopefully this forces the PJ tour to in the future put out a list so guys can't manipulate it right at the end. I don't know if that's what's going to happen. But if all that stuff about, oh, there's a weak lag time and an independent source has to confirm all this stuff like that is, I don't care.

I don't want to hear about any of that. I just want the PJ tour to have like a parade and a ceremony where these guys were walking out to walk out music and fireworks are exploding. The fact that this is still sort of like behind the scenes and they're not quite telling us what's going on shows me that they don't get it. And lastly, I love Phil Mickelson and I think he's great for the game and obviously drums up a ton of interest. If Tiger Woods doesn't win this thing, then the system's off. The system's broken. The metric system of how they measure this is clearly broken because although Tiger didn't do a ton last year, everything that he did drummed up a ton of interest. Again, I don't know if they kept that negative clause in there where him flying off the side of a cliff doesn't get factored into this stuff, although we think that it should.

If Tiger Woods doesn't win this, they have to reconfigure the machine. No? Yeah, it's an indictment on the system if Tiger Woods doesn't win it. It's just the common sense test, the eyeball test. Hey, who's the most influential player on social? And in the world of golf, bang, Tiger Woods, next question. So you're right, him not winning. I don't care if he doesn't play a tournament for the rest of his life.

He should win the PIP every year that he's still alive. So I do think that that immediately makes the entire system. It needs some tweaking. It's like when they fix the East Lake tournament every year because they were like, it's just not quite right. It's not quite right. You're going to have to tweak the system because clearly whatever they did this year, not quite right where Tiger Woods doesn't win it.

And so, Riggs, I saw the same list as you, or like, same rumors as you in terms of Moro Cal out. The other one that shocked me, Homa's not on the list, I guess. He didn't make the top 10, which really shocked me with all the kind of traffic and social that he does. I understand it's not like grand scale, like the big, big names of golf, but I still think that he's doing enough that I would have thought he would have been on the top 10, which kind of shocked me.

He had two wins, too. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like you would think that that combination, I agree with that. But I also, it's hard for us because we're kind of in the golf bubble. Like if you're outside of the golf Twitter, like everybody we follow us on golf Twitter. So like we see Max pops up all the time. Everybody loves them. Like I don't know if you get one degree removed from that. If Max is as big to the larger PGA tour as we think he is, I'm not really sure. But also to that point, wouldn't you want to motivate more tour players to be like Max Homa on Twitter? Like that's another indictment on the system where, you. Yeah, I get that they're factoring in other things other than social media and Twitter and Instagram. But if you actually want to use this to motivate guys to grow the game, social media isn't going anywhere. It's a huge part of it. Max Homa is by far the best at it in the game of golf. Let's get more guys like that.

And I agree with Lurch. To not have Max on that list at all from what we've heard seems crazy. Right. They have to decide what are they trying to accomplish by giving out the PIP. Are you just trying to give it to the most famous person for the year? because that's always going to be the Tiger Woods, the Phil Mickelson, the Rory Macaroys, the John Roms, just because of their performance, their skill.

But they're getting paid off by that. They're getting paid for their skill by winning tournaments and getting endorsements. Prize money. Prize money. If you're trying to give out excess money, extra money to grow the game, I do agree that there needs to be a more clear goal

by the PGA tour on what they're trying to accomplish. And if they're trying to accomplish new names to grow the game and create, new stars, then it's absolutely the Max Homas and the Harry Higgs's and all of the guys that are grinding on Twitter and trying to, you know, be funny and different, even like a Kevin Kisner, that just he'll do the different types of media with us and he'll play in the four-minute Instagram with just like Pat Perez, like those guys make an impact on the game in a different way than with the prize money.

And they, that should be the top 10 is the guys who really aren't winning the prize money with their skill, but they're still generating eyeballs. with their personality. It should be like a personality thing as opposed to whatever the fuck this system is. I agree with that. I also think that that reward system could go further than the top 10.

Like if Max Homa isn't, maybe he like on this list or whatever, he comes into 13. I think this honestly payment of this pit plan should extend far outside the top 10. Like when we talk to Pat Perez and he says, you know,

he's grinding on the mini tours going from X, Y to Z to play in tournaments, scratching together a couple grand. Like I think that if you're on the PGA tour and at some certain level, if it goes to the top 100 or if I don't know how many actual people played in a top or in a PGA tour event,

but I think the PIP plan should truthfully like just be a stacked ranked of everybody because I honestly think that the last thing that Phil Mickelson needs is another just $8 million cash in the bank and then go to Hawaii to play in a golf tournament. Like I think he's just trading this as like a vacation. If it trickles to such a small number, then it doesn't matter, right?

Like, if you start paying out every person that plays in a tour, then it's like... Well, I disagree. Like, I think if the last person makes like two grand, that still might matter to that person that is like truly grinding. I don't think so. And nobody that's on like the PGA tour. I don't know. I would be interested if you just did the numbers on like a $50 million payout.

If you reduce fills to $5 million and then work down from there for the guys that, that are in the top 10, what excess money would be left over to pay down, or Riggs, maybe not. Maybe it's the top 30 or 50, because in that vein, then you would be rewarding the max homas or that level of social media effort and saying those guys are competing against them. And so then you're getting outside of that megastar threshold that truly is the top 10 and no, that's just going to be the revolving door. Because if this metric stick. Yeah, I think like, I think you're right.

I think that like the goal should be the Max Homa and Kevin Kisner should get paid out in this thing. Now, I don't know how you like I know exactly the formula. They should get paid out to a point where it also like matters to them. Now, you know, the, I guess the whole goal with the thing, right, clearly is to like try to make the tour, um, have a bigger like curating, have the entire tour as a whole, have more of just, an impact, a digital impact, a social impact, a conversational impact in the world of sports and beyond. And I don't know, like from a pure, like, integrity and the best thing for all people that are trying to make it in the game aspect, I absolutely would support. Give everybody

millions of dollars. That's, that's grinding. But if you're like the tour and trying to really focus on driving that business and improving your business in the elements that bring in the big sponsors, and this is something that JT tweeted out, then you really do need to reward like a big 10, 15, 20 people. And I think that a part of that is that the tour is afraid. I think they're a little bit afraid that these guys are exploring other options, whether it's the match or whether it's going over to a Saudi-backed league. I saw a handful more guys are playing in the Saudi International, and the tour had to come

out and say, well, then you have to play like the Pebble Tournament if you're going to do that. So they're a little bit scared, I think, too, which is a weird kind of motivator and element to this whole thing that they're, you know, they're not, no offense to these other guys, but like the guys that are really grinding in the 100 to 200 spot in the world, they're not afraid of those guys leaving, but they are a little bit afraid of like a Phil Mickelson or or certain folks like jump at ship and getting paid $100 million. And what JT said to, he responded to somebody who wrote that the PIP is just awful.

And he said, earning money for being the reason our TV deals, purses and recognition of the game and growth of the game, et cetera, has happened. So as much as the rich get richer thing applies to this to some, none of us would be in the position we are without the people making golf what it is now, which is true, which is like the Arnold Palmer's and the Tiger Woodses and the guys that came around that, yeah, we're really good at golf, but there's plenty of guys. Look at a Dustin Johnson or John Rom.

Those guys are really, really good at golf, but they don't move the needle anywhere close to a tiger or what Arnold Palmer was or even what Roy McElroy is, even though he might be ranked 10th, when these guys are playing better than he is. Those are just bigger names. They're more impactful names. They drive ticket sales. When those motherfuckers are in the field, people show up, people turn on the TV.

And that is, at the end of the day, it's a capitalist society. That's what matters. And that's largely what's going to drive them. And so the tour is a little bit as crazy as it sounds like they're in a little bit of a weird spot where they are going to get accused of like the rich get rich. I mean, they're just paying out Phil Mickelson, who's got $500 million, $8 million more. and everyone's like, well, I mean, like, how many yachts can you water ski behind? Like the whole thing. And I get that.

And Pat Perez is like, you know, like I basically bow to tiger because of what he did. I guess what I'm trying to find is like how much deeper do you have to go so that like the next Max Homa feels like he has a chance? Because if Max Homa has proved out this model and like, you know, yes, we are very much dialed in. And if you were just to remove him on Twitter or social, you just would. see that. Like that content is not just something you wouldn't see. So, but, you know, how do we get that next Max Homa to promote it to feel like he's got a chance to be inside the top 30, top 50 of the PIP to at least get a 50K check, a 75, 100K check that might move the needle a little bit for him? And then from there, all the tournaments that the PGA tore and like the obvious knock is just

the John Deere, if you can't get somebody in the top 50, how do you get some interesting people there that have promoted their brand enough that somebody wants to go see them for whatever reason. And so I guess that's what I'm more getting to is within, if we have a $50 million, $50 million all lotment in the PIP plan next year, we've just added $10 million. Should that all go to the top 10 or can we, you know, create a top 20 or 25 to pay those people out? And that's what I'm kind of getting at or more interested in. Maybe for the final, maybe for the final $2 million or something, they should do one of those Twitter, like March madness brackets like they do for baseball Twitter where like Jared Karabas always wins against

like John Boy and they should say who's your favorite like PGA Tour puts it out who is your favorite golf Twitter personality and we all vote vote it's like the shot of the year that we were voting on for Kevin Kisner for his foundation exactly you won that 75k kids don't forget that you want to talk about creating an impact on social media that would go crazy of like people with campaigns and like showing off all the stuff that they did. And Max Homo would be like retweeting all his funny tweets or all of his videos that he did with golf brands on YouTube. And Pat Perez would be like, look, I played these four play guys or whatever.

And they'd be pushing to show their impact for the year. Yeah, that to me, I would love to do that. In a good direction of like a most improved player too. Sorry, just quick point. Like on Frankie's idea, I love that idea because or like, you know, another check on most improved or most like growth in terms of what that percentage is, because I think there is something there. And if you say at the end of the day,

they definitely should be motivated because they're good for everything that we're talking about. Right. And at the end of the day, if a Max Homo wins that challenge and, you know, the haters or the people that see like the devil's advocate of that side will say, well, he's just the most active on Twitter. Like he had the best chance to winning that.

Well, then that's exactly what the PIP is trying to do. So if he wins that tournament or whatever, that challenge, he deserves that money. So if they don't do that, someone should be arrested. And Jim Herman, like Jim Herman's a great example. He's been out just tweeting nonstop for the last year, and he's showing a lot of personality. And now when he pops up on the leaderboard or on this, you know, TV once a year,

whenever the fuck it is, like, it's, well, I mean, didn't. I'm like, I like that guy. He's trying to get in on that PIP action. I respect that. I mean, we do have to give Phil Mickelson credit. He's Phil. he's a legend, he's an icon, he's won everything and all that. And he's also active on social media.

Like he's the top of the pyramid. And it's not like he's some recluse who doesn't go on social media at all and avoids all that stuff. He is actually the opposite. So he's a good example of a guy who's actually both where he's got the name recognition with the entire world. But then he also jumps into the mud and into the muck on social media with guys like us and moves the needle that way.

So, you know, we joke, and although we're pretty much serious about Tiger winning it every single year, Phil is a good example of someone who should, is a good candidate to win it because he does both things. Yeah, he does a problem with Phil winning it. I just have a problem with Tiger not winning it. That's pretty much. I agree. I'm more of a problem of not including all those guys that we just said and then only leaving it to the top, top guys. They have to just expand it.

Like, Phil Mickelson can win every single year. That's fine with me. I don't care. I just want it to be more accessible to the rest of the guys that are actually putting in the work. I think the bracket idea is a really good one. You would think that Max would win it, but, I mean, Phil might win that one too. He'll be involved in that. Like, you never know.

But it'd be fun to follow you right. That's like it. That's great. Yeah, and guys who can't get campaigns and that would motivate them to actually get active on social media. So I think that's a really good idea. Will the PJ tour ever do it? Probably not. I think it's good.

I include guys 11 through 50 in a March Madness style bracket. You know, Kalamor Kau is the number one ranked American golfer and he finished, what, 11th? So, I mean, a guy like that could make a push too, all the stuff that he does and all. It would be really cool to see. And we know these guys have personalities, even the guy, especially Kalamorikau, he's a perfect example. But like, all these guys who are in the top 10 or in the top 20 or in the top 30, I would imagine have more personality than they're letting on.

So just to give them that. push to do a little bit extra to let the show the people that they do have that personality, I think would go a long way for the sport. Imagine that battle on Twitter between Kiz and Homa. Like kids would be a fucking battle. You get us involved

and big social media accounts involved. And those votes start to get to like 100,000 versus 85. It becomes like the presidential fucking election. Those numbers would be insane. We have to eventually endorse someone we can't just have to play it all we have to come to a point where the four play podcast has to endorse the candidate for the pit bracket and we have to sit down and make an announcement i mean that

shit would be so fun and you know what happens to the people are on different sides like we each endorse somebody you know on our own and then it's just a war to try to get them that money and people just start talking about golf yeah you know that's that's the that's the end game there is that for a week or so, there's just a ton of chatter about the PGA tour and its players on Twitter. A ton of chatter. Look at what Max Homer's done for himself. Like, he's like, pardon my takes golf guy now, too, because he's just been himself. Like, people have him on because he's awesome on Twitter and that's like exposed everyone to this great

personality. And you're right. There's every guy that we meet. We're always like, oh, wow, that guy's way cool. You know, he's really cool. He's funny. He's this. The man of Striel for fuck's sakes was like great.

We're chit-chat with him. But like you don't, you just don't get to see it. So you're right. Frank, you're right. It would just spark people talking about golf and answering questions. And when you answer questions, wealth front will help you build a diversified portfolio, boys and girls. Few. Hell yeah.

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What's this NFT golf course? I've been getting tagging this too. And again, I want to state clearly that I know nothing about NFTs or any of that thing, any of that stuff. So I'm not critiquing the idea. It actually sounds like a cool idea. I actually, I just don't know what's happening. What does NFT stand for, Trent? The fuck if I know.

Do you know? Non-fungible transaction. Token. Fuck. Oh. I was, I googled it the other day to kind of, you know, so actually I was going to be a fungible thing for me was a huge get right there. That was a huge get.

Because I was like running through my head. And then I was like, I almost said nonrefundable. I almost said nonrefundable. Fungible feels like a word that we all just made up. It feels like something. Fungible. It's a little soft thing feels like something we all just made up. And I think that it is.

But it's certainly got legs. It's the talk of everyone who seems influential and important is in on NFTs. And that usually is a pretty good indicator on where something's headed. So, Could we make Butters Bay just an NFT? I'll tell you right now, I'll sell, I'll sell Butter's Bay for $1 million. Let me say this. That's why I went down this road.

What do we need to do to raise money to just build our own golf and have it? We have one. Dude, it has like a million plays on PGA tour. I think on Xbox it had like 600,000 plays. Butters Bay is a place. It's an oasis. It's a virtual oasis. We already have the location.

Who wants to buy it? I mean, what better NFT than something that you can actually go and play? You know what I mean? Let's sell this thing. Sell it? Put it in the Metaverse? Let's sell this thing. Who wants it?

Dude, it is crazy the amount of value people have made for themselves with crypto and NFTs in the last couple years. It's like, what in the hell is going on? And I know so very little about both. Can we make our own? Like, we should just NFT our, like Trent getting asked, where is he stationed, right? Like that moment should be NFT.

Why are we not in this space? I know. It's just a, it's just a digital thing that's just, there's only finite of it and you, only so many people can just have it. We place value on it. We say this is the only one that is going to be out there. We are acknowledging that this specific NFT has value and then someone else places

the value on it by purchasing it. And now once they purchase it, the value is. goes up. Yeah, the easiest comparison is trading cards or sports cards or whatever. Like there are, we grew up with those. Everybody kind of understands that system where it's like, oh, you got that Michael Jordan card. Oh, you've got that Barry Bond's card, whatever. And that is somehow you have to make the leap where that's digital. And that's, that's hard for a lot of people to do because what you say is, all right, I can screenshot all these things that that people have. And I can be like, oh, look, I have that too. But it's not the actual item. It's hard to make. It's hard to make.

the logical leap and I have a problem doing it too because it's digital but it's no different than trading cards. You're essentially you're essentially owning like a serial number, right? Like you have this number. No one else has it. It comes with an awesome little holographic whatever image. Those are cool though. Yeah. It comes with a cool image that dances around and sparkles and whatever. But it's really just this it's this number that you have and no one else has. It's this ID number that if you want this, you have to pay a ton of money for it. And I'll send it to you, but you have to give me a million dollars for Butter's Bay. That's what's going for.

What's the most like expensive NFT in the world? Dude, didn't Dave get the board apes? The board apes are like what all like the rappers and everything have. Didn't Dave get like a hundred grand for? I see a lot of hate says like avatars on Twitter. Dave got a ton of money for the pizza review one that I thought. He did like the one of one. But I, Frankie, I think we're talking millions.

No, I know, I know. This one that says, here we go. The has a digital collage of images by people that sold for 69.3 million dollars. No. The pack packs of the merge sold for 91.8 million dollars. No, no, no. So that's just money laundering, right?

Butters Bay. I mean, we can get, right? Butter's Bay, we got to be, we got to be raising that price, Frankie. Right now it's free. People are, now it's right now, people, it's that. I mean, without, I don't. don't want to get like arrested by like Joe Rogan or something but this that is just that's money laundering right that's got something something's something has to be something's going on where someone's paying

90 million dollars to get yeah maybe but what you said is right now but it really is as simple as what you said before I'm pretty sure where fucking dude wipes ads and these people are getting 69 million I'm out here I'm out here begging people to paint my house on this podcast begging people to paint my goddamn house and these guys are selling you're telling me they're selling digital monkeys for 40 million dollars i mean have you seen some of these things go back to that point though like because i my brain does not get there because that's a digital thing i can just screenshot that and then it's literally mine i've got it so that you all your money's also digitally on your phone like the digital aspect doesn't break my brain it doesn't but the digital aspect the money on your phone it's like yeah

you can screenshot my bank account it's not like you can take that money out and use it to buy anything. Yeah, but you can't take that NFT out of your account until you send it to someone. It is your money. It's the same thing. It's like just because I can screenshot that picture does not mean that the thing that I own doesn't have value. Like, think about it this way. The value isn't in the picture. Okay. Value isn't in the picture. It's in the serial number. All right. All right. I think I'm getting somewhere. My brain's getting somewhere. Get it? Yeah, a little bit. Think about, right. So think about, again, I can't believe I'm like running point on this. No, you're our finance.

Come on, too. NFT, the quarterback, Trent Ryan. Think about a trading card again. Think about the most expensive Michael Jordan card in the world. Honest Wagner. I don't know what that's worth. Honest Wagner.

It's worth a lot of money. And you could, you know, print out a piece of paper and, like, make that card and get the picture and, and draw it up and print it out perfectly. It's like you could make a counterfeit card,

but that's not actually the card, and it's not actually worth the real amount because it's not what everyone else. has decided this card is worth all that money. You just made a counterfeit card that people are eventually going to figure out isn't the real one. It's the same thing digitally when you screenshot something. Yep. Got it.

Interesting. Well done, Professor T. That was nice. That was very clear. All right. Nice. Little jinx there. We got much more to get too.

Lert, you have great head of hair, man. Head of hair? Yeah, you have good hair. Like that kind of hair where you can just. I'll say now you got the surfer hair going on too. Yeah, that's good hair. My flight got delayed and then I didn't get into like two last night. I'm on the West Coast.

So it's an early morning. So I just kind of woke up at a random time. You want to talk about flight delays out of me and Frankie out of Phoenix. What a what a trip that was. I don't want to talk about your food consumption thing too. Yeah, we can talk about it. But before T goes on any sort of flight delay or whatever, I'll know for the rest of my days there's a little piece of me that hates to

both of you because when we were coming back from Australia. Yeah. And there was the three of us in a whirlwind of who's going to get on a flight, who's going to get where. I forget all the details, but I know the fact that you two got on the flight. And I didn't get home for another eight hours or something like that. And my bag simply never made it. And we're in the middle of nowhere, Houston, Texas, where I guess United goes to let all

their bags die. for maybe three or six months after. So before you two said, oh, I missed a flight and I was an hour behind, remember the day from hell that I had coming back from Australia, which is already 30 hours of travel, and you schmucks just posy on. And I was like, because you guys were, we were standing in a group, but I think you were the first two in our little, like, group as we, like,

went to the next section. And they basically just drew a line and were like, this guy's not making the cut. And I'm dead. A couple of things happened with the Australia trip. We talked about this with our nightmare of travel coming home from Arizona. But we all came from the other side of the world, which was just the furthest place ever of Australia. And you bought a bunch of duty-free stuff, I remember.

So then there was something when we got to California. We missed our connecting flight because whoever sets up the connecting flights coming from Australia just doesn't know what's going on that you've got to go through this ridiculous customs line at LAX, where you just physically can't make the connection. It's impossible. They've set it up for you to go. It's a two hour task. Yeah.

It's never lower. It's never quicker. We were in that line like waiting to get through like once we get through this barrier. We're going to make our flight. At one point somebody pointed at a point in the line which we had not passed it and said everyone from here back is not making their connecting flight. And we're like, how do you know that? And he's like, I just know.

And he was right. And we fucking missed it. They do that every single day. for these 16-hour flights and then they know that the people are going to be pissed off and angry about their misconnection. So because of that and because of all the duty-free stuff that Lurch bought, we now missed our flight, had to go through customs and we had to recheck our bags. And I remember that being a massive problem for Lurge where he had all of this alcohol and

all of these things in his bag that they wouldn't let him like check or carry on. That's right, dude. I gave it to a security guy. I was like, this is now yours. Didn't you have to go buy another bag? You wanted to go buy another luggage bag? So as all that was happening, Trent and I just slowly walked away. And then we made our connecting flight where we were just like, see you later.

They've given us, they've given us two seats. Maybe they had three, but we told them that you weren't coming on. It gets worse now that I remember the story and Frankie just spoke. Because the worst part is when I was mentioning my bags being stuck in Houston for three months. No, I saw them. You saw him in Newark. I touched it. I grabbed them.

So we finally get to Newark. We get our bags. I say, oh, there's Lurch's bag. What the fuck can we do with that? I looked at it. Saw the tag and I just put it back on the conveyor belt. And I just left Newark. That's not my problem at all.

We just traveled for 29 hours. Not my problem. And then they took your bag from Newark and sent it to Houston. They just to some housing center. It's not tagged and not itemized. They have no idea where stuff goes. They just throw it basically in a trash can. It lives there because I remember you guys were home and I was just getting back and I was like, oh, dude, brutal, just landing.

Now they don't even have my bags. And Frankie was like, dude, I saw them. And I was like, if I could jump through this phone right now, I'd kill you. If I could get my hands on you, you would be dead in seconds. All we had to do is take that bag and bring it to like the Delta office and been like, hey, this guy's landing in seven hours. Can you just hold on to this for this? them. Oh yeah. He's blessed. Now, now Lurch is well within his rights to

kill Frankie and I for that. But my argument would be when you're traveling 29 hours from the other side of the world, it's every man for himself. I agree with that point. I get the band of brothers thing when you're traveling like, oh no, if he can't go, I'm not going, all that type of deal.

But when you're traveling like that, and it's serious travel and your nerves are shot and you've been on more flights than you can count and you don't really even know where you're at, you just got to go. Just start moving. You got to leave a guy behind. You got to leave him behind.

I wish we didn't have to. But that is such a horrific travel day that once you see light, you head for it, regardless of who's with you. I firmly agree with that. However, the fact that I didn't do it allows me to be on this pathetic kind of Barstool saying that, you know,

no, no, no. I would have given my seat up and waited with a group and, you know, been part of everybody and we would all got on the same flight. We've got to talk about flights. We've got to talk about bangers and mash. We've got to talk about the bangers and mash.

Trent Daddy the other day. I don't know if Lurch interacted with this tweet because it was it was something straight out of his playbook of just eating just the most incorrect meal. Because I will say, I mean, I think I said on this podcast one time and just a horrific, horrific experience. I mean, I spent, I did that kind of Scotland trip and then I was, did a week in Amsterdam for work and then flew back. and I probably had an experience of what Trent delivered on that plane from what he ate. I mean, that's poison, that's messed up for your seatmates who are all in row 22 with you and before you and after you, it's almost an arrestable offense to put that plate of food in your body.

I mean, I assume just, you know, an hour or two before you take off. I want to talk selfish and reckless. Trent's not going to disclose all the information. And so I feel the need for people to be able to explain to it. It wasn't just the bangers and mesh. It was everything that led up to the bangers and mesh that made the bangers and mesh an even more preposterous order. We're at the golf course.

You know, it was a long day out in Tucson, beautiful, beautiful golf course, La Paloma for the Barstall Stramble, the Arizona Scramble. You know, we stopped halfway through the round and we got ourselves some nice barbecue pulled pork sandwiches, Trent and I with some fries and, you know, the whole deal. maybe a soda pop. I think Trent may have gotten himself a mountain do, maybe two from the fountain. So that was, you know, in our tummies and we're playing golf and we're doing the whole thing. Then we get to the post-game meal and we are, we're at the buffet at the Arizona Scramble La Paloma.

And we're walking around and Trent Daddy spots some more pulled pork brisket. So now this is at the buffet. So this is the second dose of pulled pork brisket. I will say the most preposterous thing I've heard so far is you have two mountain dews. Yeah. Yeah. So now we have a second order of pulled pork brisket within the two hours of being of the eating. And so that's a lot of meat and just all these sides and mashed potato. I'm sorry.

Mac and cheese. Yeah, mac and cheese cookies, right? So which is fine, Trent, this is not me talking down on your consumption of eating. I'm just saying this I needed to say because I was right there with you. I was eating everything with you. This, it's, it's, it's the combination of doing those two things and then showing up to the pre-meal dinner where we go to this place called the kettle black, a nice little spot in Phoenix, Arizona, right by, what do they call it the footprint? The footprint where the sun's play. Beautiful little Irish restaurant.

The place was bumping. It was really nice to see. We're all, you know, I order a chicken sandwich. A couple people order muscles. We've got like nice light American, Irish bar food. and Trent looks down and he goes, I think I'm going to order the authentic bangers and mashed. And I said,

you know what, man, I don't know what that is, but go for it. I don't know what it is. We're having a day. We've gotten our flight delayed for three hours. It's already been a long day.

We're up for 24 hours already. Just fucking do it. When it gets to the table, I look down, you know, and everyone was kind of just not really paying attention to Trent. He was eating fast. He was eating fast.

He was trying to hide that. He was trying to hide a couple bites in before people know dinner starts. Everybody else ordered chicken sandwiches. I order fucking bangers and math. Bro, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was sausages. Yeah, the name is a giveaway. The bangers and mash is not a healthy meal. Sausage links.

Sausage links with these huge fat sausages on top of mashed potatoes with gravy on them. And then that all sat on a bed of brown beans, just baked beans. Just like the most. watery, gravy-ish beans you've ever laid your eyes on. And then like these grilled, cooked onions just all mixed in. I looked at him. I said, are you fucking crazy? We have a six-hour flight experience coming up.

What are you going to do when those beans hit that fucking stomach? What are you going to do when the beans come for you, man? All right. I got a few things I want to say. Question. Do you have an aisle seat going in? Did you know you had an aisle seat or where we said? No, we had no clue.

No, I didn't know where I was sitting at that point. So a few things. One, when the plate hit the table, I knew that it was going to become a topic of conversation. So I almost tried to eat it fast and cover what was going on. Because like I said, everybody else is eating chicken sandwiches. Like it was a pretty normal bar food atmosphere where I could have gotten anything other than this. And I'd never had bangers a match before. So I really didn't know what I was in for.

I just, it just sounded different and good. And I, you know, actually was pretty good. But as soon as it hit the table, I was like, something's going to, like, Frankie's sitting right next to me. This is going to turn into a thing. And it did. And I'll tell you what. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard. Bro, we almost, I almost shit my pants.

I laughed so hard. Everyone at the table, we have like eight people with us. Like, we were all hyperventilating once. Because as soon as the first person mentioned it, just even casually like, Trent, what do you got there? I knew I was in trouble. But it was just everyone was laughing as hard as they possibly could. But my defense is this. I also hit him lurch with the, I said, hell in a handbasket.

That's going to be absolute sewage in the place where lost it. I just, I put my face in a napkin and I cried tears of laughter. Here's my defense. Okay. So at this point in the night, we are facing a delay of our, of our flight that is already a red eye. This flight was supposed to take off at midnight. It has now been, shut a bubble in my throat. It has now been pushed back to one.

137 a.m. So there's a bit of a buffer. And this is, this is already happening like hours before the flight. So we're in our heads, we're thinking, yeah, it's 137 now, but this puppy's going to keep getting delayed and keep getting delayed. I mean, everybody sees what's going on all over the country right now. Travel is just a nightmare. Things are getting canceled all over the place, weather, staffing, COVID, all that stuff. So our flight is pushed back by an hour and a half already. What time do you think we ordered dinner, Frankie? probably 715 how was later than I would have thought

I thought we ordered around six but anyway we order the food and then the food and this place was great and you weren't caught in the airport right well this wasn't like you got to the airport went through security and you're seeing delays you're at home or you're at like a nice

we're off campus at a bar and this place that we went to was great the kettle black I believe what it was called and it was bumping so we ordered this food and it took a little while it took a little while We were sitting there for a while, just waiting for our food, having a good time, having a few drinks. It wasn't that big of a deal. But then we start thinking, can we try to hop on another flight?

Because people at the table are on a different flight than us that's taking off at around 1130 or midnight. Maybe we can hop on that. That one hasn't been delayed yet. So we try to do that. And that actually happens. And that happens after we get the food. So this gap that I thought that I had when we're ordering food at six, I think I've got a flight at 1.30, 2.8. I think I've got a pretty big gap going on.

That all of a sudden, with the food taking a while to come out and then our flight getting booked up so we get on an earlier flight, my gap closed really quick. And I already had bangers and mash in my system. So it just didn't really work out the way that I thought it was going to work out, which led me to having stomach issues on the flight. Like I was, I was, I was, I felt bad, but I was, what were you over under on toots? How many over, set a line, set a market line on toots? On Toots? Yeah. Five and a half?

Yeah. Oh my God, dude. You understand what I said? You didn't care. I get you, but you're still signing up for a travel day. You know you have a travel experience in five to seven hours. Whatever it's going to be. It's going to happen for you five to seven hours.

You're going to be on a five, a five and a half hour flight. It's a long flight from Phoenix to back to Newark. So I'm going to say I still don't credit. credit that logic of all because you know you're going into that flight. So you get the bangers and mash after two full plates of pulled pork and all the sides where now you're going to stuff this thing down on a plate of beans. And I know you read the menu. I know you knew what had that inside of it.

And if it's got a bed of beans and then you're just going to have meat on top of that, I don't know if I can say, oh, no, Trent, that's fine because you thought you had an extra two hours to deal with. You know, sue me for trying to broaden my horizons with food. Everybody else is getting sandwiches and wraps and it's like, what, come on. Like, I always get this stuff. Let's try some bangers and mash.

I will say, I did not realize, and maybe I just missed it on the menu, that it was going to come on a bed of beans. That might have been a deal breaker for me if I had seen that. Because I'm involved in the society. Like, I exist. I know what's going on. I don't, I wouldn't want, like, if I saw that on a menu and the guy who was flying next to me, I saw him order that.

I'd be like, what do you? doing we got a four and a half hour five hour fletking you can't be tooting like we're all a part of this once you once you get on a plane like it or not you're all a part of that that crying baby that's a part of it like we're all in this together and i i was the guy who ate bangers and mash before i got on i didn't know that it came on a bed of beans if i had known that i probably wouldn't have gotten it was the food delicious yes do i regret it no because it was good it was good but i'm just saying like the gap closed. I ordered bangers and mash. I tuned it on the flight. We ended up getting home. But like I would I go back and change anything? No, it was a delicious meal. We had

good laughs. Yeah. That's what I would say like the logic of like, oh, I thought an extra couple hours and that's what okayed my brain to order bangers and mash. That didn't, I'm saying that that didn't influence your brain at all. No. That's probably right. There we go. That's what I want to hear. I think a big point in my favor is I never had bangers and mash before. I didn't know that it was, it's, it's essentially a laxative what you order at that. It's just a plate of beans. On top of brisket, it's the only reason I bring up the pre meal, double orders of brisket. I mean, you just got all this barbecue meat inside your belly. The only thing more psychopath would be to sit down on the plane. Can I get, can I get a small

coffee here to type? I mean, that's, uh, they put me on a list if I did that. It's, it's, it's also we had, we had apps. We had a Bavarian pretzel, we had wings. Yeah, we ate like kings. Yeah, we ate like kings. And I mean, I like the bangers of mash. I'll probably get it again. I won't be doing it, you know, before a 4 a.m. Red Eye or whatever time it was.

But it was a delicious meal at a fun restaurant and we had a good time. I apologize for the people who sat next to me because, you know, I mean, they were asleep most of the time, but subconsciously knew something was going on. Any interactions with them where they, you think they were kind of aware something, something's coming from you or something's going on with you there? No, because anyone who's taking a red eye, it's similar to the 29-hour flight where you're just survive, survive, survive. People were sprawled on top of each other.

There's limbs all. It's just you're out. Frankie and I talked about this where we landed, which I would argue is the worst time of travel when you land after a red eye where you're just, your nerves are shot, you emerge into the light in New York City. You have to find your bag. You have to find an Uber. Frankie and I were saying it's not fair what they do on red eyes

for the people who aren't sitting in first class or comfort plus or whatever it's it's inhumane to sit in those seats for five hours when you have to sleep and everybody's just trying to sleep but you can't like I would cut the capacity in half of those flights

charge double and make everybody comfortable yeah that was my biggest thing was like all right I'm getting on this flight regardless of the price I'm going home so I would rather have more room and spend more money than be hoarded in there like animals where I'm sitting straight up for four and a half hours trying to fall asleep I mean dude my wub ban almost broke it almost started like fizzling because it didn't understand when I was sleeping what I was how long

I was sleeping for all these head nods and wake ups and then your eyes hurt and then your back is killing you the lady that my right fell asleep I was on that window couldn't get up to go to the bathroom because she's just dead asleep. I'm not tapping her on the shoulder to ask her to get up because that's just a nightmare. Every, like every health expert on planet Earth says you should never sleep this way ever, ever, ever. The most important thing in your life is to sleep the opposite of that. Like at a certain point, the airlines have to save us from ourselves. If that flight is available and those seats are available and I got to get home because I'm trying to get home for New Year's Eve, people are going to buy that plane ticket and we're going to get on, but we're going to just be. And, you're going to just be. And,

Like Frankie's saying, the guy next to me, probably 50 times his head did one of those. And it's like that is maybe doing irreparable damage. But like I'm saying, if those flights are available and I'm trying to get home and those seats are tiny and I'm big as it is, like I'm going to get on that flight, they shouldn't even allow it. I would argue also, and we had this argument the whole night leading up to it, I don't know if there's logic behind a red eye. Like, is it smarter to take a red eye or is it smarter to take the 6 a.m. flight the next. day. All depends what you do. Your day is ruined no matter what.

Yeah, if you take the 6 a.m. flight the next day, you got to get up at 4. You got to get up at 3.30 in the morning. And then you're flying in the morning. You probably got to take a nap when you get home. But you're going to wake up around the same time you would wake up when you take the red eye. A red eye is a nightmare. You get home.

I got here. I got back to my apartment at 8 a.m. And then I slept until like noon. And I woke up and I didn't even feel like a real person. Like that's not, that's no way to live. No, but if you're flying back East Coast, it's such. a day waster in my eyes if you don't do the red eye. Like if you don't do the red eye, then you leave at 8 a.m. You add three hours, 11, and then you get home at 4 or 5 p.m.

If you get on 8 a.m. flight here on the West Coast, it sucks. So that's why I'm a huge proponent of just get on the red eye, have a miserable night sleep, and try to catch up on it the next couple nights. I just think there's something to be said. And I should note that I can't sleep on planes. So that's, I really can't, I can't do it. And so I'm just up on a red eye, which is, that's a, that's a weird time. But it's like, I think there's something to be said for just body clocks where, yeah, you take the 6 a.m. flight the next day, but you're going to bed at, all right, nine or 10 p.m. And your body knows what that is. So at least there's some familiarity with it. With a red eye, it's, it's just chaos. You're up, you're, you're on a flight at

three in the morning. Your body's like, what is this? Why are we 36,000 feet in the air right now? usually were in a bed. I just think there's really something to be said for that. And I not every time I take a red eye, I swear I'm never taking another one. I'm sure I'll end up taking another one. But I, there's something to be said for that 6 a.m. flight the next day. It's a pretty interesting video on YouTube, uh, I think it's called like Wendover Productions has a YouTube page. They have a bunch of subscribers, but they explain things like your five, like all these really cool things that you would never think about. Like how do, how does electricity get to your house? And they kind of explain the way it works with all these graphs and all what were you about to say did you find that

youtube page because of quigs yep me too isn't that crazy how twitter works um so essentially um what there was this one video about the economics behind planes and it's amazing how they just don't make any money off of the economy class and they stack so many people in the backs of the planes right Like from row 14 to row 40 is really all economy. And then you have like business class, first class, all that stuff where it's completely spread out, maybe a couple of rows here and there. But they use very generic low prices to show this graph. And essentially like they were saying on a on a flight, the whole entire economy class with their example, whatever price they use,

the entire economy class had made made they got $106,000 from them like then they're showing this plane and then from business class all the way to first class it's half the amount of seats and they made $550,000 off of those which is less than half of the seats right so from 100,000 to 550,000 the airline made five times more money off the people in those premium seats so that's why like my argument would be like just forget the fucking people. And you're already making the money. Have some flights where you just have that business class experience where it's just the whole flight.

Yeah. I want to check that out. That's crazy. Interesting. Because to me, like now, you know, I'm sure rigged with your travel. Like you just, I buy economy, but then I just get upgraded to basically first class every time. And so, Frankie, was that a model of that individual flight? Or was that on like the lifetime of like a United.

like, you know, 1K premier partner flyer. What they did was they just took the average price from this one airline on this one flight from like London to D.C. Okay. And they were saying it was like the premium flight. Like obviously there's there's ways of getting cheaper flights. If you go from London to fucking Boston and then Boston to New York, like if you connect or maybe you connected from Russia, whatever, there's all these different ways to get cheaper

flights because connectors are always cheaper but if you're just going to take a baseline price it was five times more money from premium seating up to then economy back it was five times more money made for the airlines it is i will say i mean now i'm you know whatever i fly a ton so i always get upgraded but when when that wasn't the case they heard you like cattle in the back of those That's bad. And it is so small. Like you just don't have any room to move your shoulders or elbows or who gets control of the... Dude, I was row 40.

The armrest. Yeah. I go 40 of the day. It's a mess. Dude, I did that. I took a flight last week where I was in the southwest and I didn't check in in time. So I was like fucking C6 or whatever.

So it was a real gamble towards the end because you get back there. I'm like, should I take one of these front middle seats or should I grind to the back and play and see if I'd see if I'd. And I was like, dude, I get the last seat in the last corner of the last row. And I don't know how they get away with regulations of making a seat area this small. But like my left knee, dude, I had like a dent and a scrape in my left knee from just sitting. I just, I couldn't avoid. I was like in there.

And I was looking like, hello? Like, do you guys see me back here? Like, what the fuck is this? Dude, plane seats are. They're like the seats at Fenway Park. Like they're made for people who were in the 1910s. Like, hey, like the human, the American, I don't know if you've noticed, but Americans have gotten larger over the last 110 years or whatever.

Couple plates of bangers and mash. Like, let's, let's adapt these. They didn't make lurches a hundred years ago. I do wonder, Riggs, you bring up a good point. I wonder, like, what, who is the model human body that they're putting in these seats? Like, when they, they clearly have something like, when they, these planes. They're like, all right, the average American or average person who's going to be on this flight is, you know, 5-9, 160 pounds. That's just not going to work for me. And for everybody else. Maybe. Are they using like Ria from Barstool? Is that? The problem is Americans are, or, we're obese. So like, we're all going to have this problem as a country because we're just not doing things the correct way. We're not living up to the standards of what the flights are like the flight that the airlines are like,

These are what the seats are because these are what normal humans are supposed to be. And if you guys, if you animals don't fit to them, then you're just going to have to be uncomfortable while you order like three orders of McDonald's pre-flight. Because that is the problem. Because you can anybody like rigs, you're saying you got like a dented knee or like and there's no room or you're trying to find that like little gap in the seat. So your knee is literally on like the metal frame of the seat to gain an extra inch. And the problem is that you can sustain that. for a two-hour flight or whatever, and it's miserable, but they can pack like one more person in

so they can fit that rigs in the back row because they've carved an inch out of every other seat that makes it miserable. And you can literally sustain it for those two hours and you get off, you're like, fuck that. Sorry for the language. But it's a mess. And so they've realized that.

It's okay. It's okay for the language. What fuck was that? I don't know. I just dropped a heavy F-bomb and I kind of shocked me if we're going to be honest. Let me talk about Tommy John. So for Christmas,

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So again, 20% off your first order. You go to Tommyjohn.com slash 4. See their website for details. Tiger Woods turned 46. I had a couple Tiger Woods stats for you from our guy Justin Ray, who we just regurgitate his stats on the show all the time because he's the best in the golf business. Best score to par in major championships from 1997 through 2009. This is a minimum 70 rounds.

Tiger Woods, 134 under par. Phil Mickelson 99 over par. Phil was the only player in that 12-year stretch, the only player within 250 strokes of Tiger Woods and major championships. Whoa. Holy fuck, man. Wow.

In the last 60 years, there are three instances of a player winning five or more PGA tour starts in a row. Last 60 years, three instances. They belong to Tiger Woods, who won seven in a row, Tiger Woods, who won six in a row, and Tiger Woods who won five in a row. It's the best. Tiger is the only player since 1950 to win the same PGA tour event four years in a row.

He's done it twice. The Buick Invitational 2005-2008 and Bay Hill 2000 to 2003. Won the event four times in a row. Tiger Woods has won seven majors by three shots or more, which is the most all-time. last player before Woods to reach the career milestone of seven majors one total was Tom Watson in 1982. It's disgusting.

I wonder how Tiger is going to be perceived in 200 years. I honestly worry about it a little bit because are they going to look back and just say that like there was no competition or something? Yeah, they already kind of do. Right, which is they do that with, I don't know, they do that with Michael and, LeBron a lot. Like it gets...

I do it with Gretzky. What? I do it with Gretzky. Right. Like, I think Michael Jordan is actually going to get into. He said he wouldn't make an NHL roster. That's right. He would struggle. He said it himself. But, like, we know, like, we live through most of the Tiger stuff.

We were pretty young at the beginning of it all. But, like, we know the specifics of it. And the nuance is going to get lost. I mean, in 20 years, it's probably going to be lost. There's going to be some young stud up-and-coming golfer that, you know, know, wins a couple of tournaments at a young age, and they're going to be like, oh, this guy's the next tiger. He might even be better than Tiger.

But you go through these statistics that Riggs is listing right now, and you just, they're not to be believed, but they happened. And like the competition was pretty good back that. Lurch can't get over in the Grisci. Quick point. Frankie's an idiot and just got me laughing about Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky admitted. He said it himself.

He can't make an age of roster. Wayne Gretzky admitted the league has changed so much since he's been in it, that he, with his style that he played in the night. 1980s doesn't think that he'd be able to compete with the NHL this year to the point where he wouldn't even make a team. He said it. There's a video of him saying it. But I think he's humbled. I don't give a fuck. My point. Oh, the guy's humble. Like I win in a court of law. The guy said it. I don't care what his reasoning was. He said it. If I went to law, if I went to a court and the judge was ruling, if I was correct or not, I'd say, judge, I have this piece of evidence where the

person I'm talking about completely agrees with everything. everything I've said. No. Look, on the Tiger Woods front, he's had five years of over 200 points and you're an idiot. On the Tiger Woods front, on the Tiger Woods front, I would just say that it's,

it's, I'm worried that he's becoming almost like, um, an Egyptian pharaoh or like Jenghis Khan or so where it's all just like, it's almost like mysterious here. Like somebody actually did that shit like yeah, right. Right.

To the point that and where they're so mind boggling that then, then they'll have to justify by saying that like, oh, the level of competition wasn't what it is now or, you know, the courses where, or just something, they'll use something because the accomplishments are so not to be believed that you have to somehow, not us, people in the future will have to say, oh, it's because of this. When in reality, it's just that he was a once in a 500 billion person odds that he would be this good at something during this time frame. It's really what it is.

I think golf in general. I think the 2019 Masters is just like a caveat is the backlash to that argument. It's just like no. Like, you know, yes, he did accomplish all those things. But with this top talent that everybody thinks is in the game of golf today with all these elite players, to go out and win the Masters through everything he's been through, I feel like does change that narrative in a little bit, but it is something to focus on. But yeah, it's just he was a freak.

He was wildly better than anybody else. at that time and I think ever. And that's just the tag of the woods effect. And golf in general. And the sport allows that argument to be a little bit easier than the other sports, right? Because it's all personal achievements. It's his score to par. He dominated.

Like when he when he just went out and won by ungodly amounts of strokes, that is so much easier to say, oh, he would have done that in any era because the golf course is still the golf course. You could go out and play Pebble Beach the same way that he played it in the 90s. to that you know what i mean like it's very similar the course isn't changing as much like if anything it's getting easier with better technology so like you could always argue that um so yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't say it's going to be like the babe ruth conversation where they say babe ruth like you know coli mick always says babe ruth like wasn't an athlete or whatever they used to talk about him and trill um i don't think that'll happen i think tiger will withstand the test of time because

of the sport that golf is. It's very, there's no defense. There's no argument to be made. Like, yeah, the guys he's playing against may have been worse or whatever, but that doesn't, that didn't affect his game at all. Right. Yeah, and he was winning by an outrageous margin in a lot of these events. And like those guys he was playing,

I mean, Phil Mickelson, Phil's got six major championships and 40-something wins. Like, Phil is one of the best top ten players of all time, so clearly. Right. Uh-oh. You're getting kicked out of this room. Riggs is getting kicked out of room. But I was making a good point right there. You were.

I just worry about the youth. The youth is, the youth always wants the thing that they're watching to be the best ever. And I worry about that. They actually open the door. Like, they're really kicking you out. Yeah,

I'm really interested over Riggs's left shoulder of what's happening. Are you guys more stressed than I? I'm pretty stressed a little bit. You're fine. Maybe they're not going to kick out. If they put you in a headlock, he gave me kind of a, he gave me kind of a, oh, don't worry about it.

Oh, okay. But he didn't seem to be the authoritarian. You're to wrap up your Zoom. Go ahead. You're fine. You're doing a podcast. That's exactly what you're going. You're going to go.

You're going to about Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson. What the fuck's going on there? This is a business center, sir. Do you guys have New Year's resolution before we wrap up? I just want to get healthier. Yeah, my health is pathetic. My stamina is off the charts poor. Like my heart rate is just like zaps up when I was, I mean, I was barely.

playing, I was playing a game of horse the other day. And then it changed and I did like one athletic move to the left and then the right. And I heart was just through my chest. And so that's going to be the big thing is that I'm going to, I'm going to get a little bit healthier. When I get out of my golf cart and then walk up like to elevated T-box, I'm exhausted. Like I can't, I can't breathe. I can't think.

I have nothing. It's like there's no, this whole thing needs to be opened up and like you. and it needs to be used to being used. Otherwise, we're just going to wither away here, you know. My goal is to live in the 230s. That's my goal for this year, is just to be in the 230s. And just like, if I'm in that range, I'm going to be decently healthier and a little bit of a weight loss issue here going on.

I got some golf resolutions that we should go through on Thursday. I think Thursday we all come with some golf, 22 golf New Year's resolutions. I'd also, I agree with that. I will definitely do that. and getting healthier year is my number one. What was that? I'd also, I'd like to know what you guys think about this. I'd like to learn how to cook.

Okay. I like that. I would love that. I'm moving into a house where mommy and dad is not going to be cooking for me anymore. I got to figure that shit out. You know what I mean? Like I was thinking about it the other day where it's just like a skill that I don't have. And I actually don't even think I have the skill set for it.

There's people who just have it. They're like, oh, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. You put it in for that long. It's fluid. It's liquid. But, you know, something good will come out. I try, whenever I try to cook, I try to follow it by the book and it still comes out like dog shit. So I somehow got to figure out just a, I need like a real way to get good at it.

I'm going to hit up our guy, Chef Donnie, just like I need like what's a starter? What stuff do I need to like have the baseline of someone who can cook and then like sort of go from there? Because right now I don't know anything about cooking and I know that I'm pretty bad at it. I would like to improve upon that. I might jump off that ledge with you, Trent Daddy. I would like how to cook, too. It's just a good life skill. It's impressive.

It's cool. It's healthier. It saves you money. And I don't know how to do any of it. You think about all these awesome meals that you show up to restaurants and you eat them, right? You look at the menus and you're like, wow, that's something I wouldn't even think to that. I forgot that existed, right? Like a bangers and match.

And then people just go out and they just make this stuff at their houses. It's unbelievable. I've been around a kitchen my entire life. Borrellys, obviously, we've, you know, I've been there. I was making pizzas with my dad forever. And that's a different style of cooking. Like we were, I was able to make a chicken parm, no problem because everything's already breaded.

It's all there. And everything in a restaurant, you just take it, you put it on the skillet, you get ready. You have the sauce already made. Everything's done. I was able to cook my meals there, no problem. I would, starting from scratch, I mean, might as well kill me right there on the spot. So I definitely need to, um, learn how to cook better. I want to, I want to be able to, my one, what I want to get healthier.

And I think my biggest goal is to meal prep throughout the year. And I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it. But it's something that I'm really going to try. Because that's where you can get like two things on a plate. Like if I make something for myself at home, it's just like a chicken breast. And I just like don't get like barbecue sauce. Yep. But if you do like meal prep, then you can actually have like something else on the plate with that.

Like even if it's just rice. Like it's like you've got like one other item on there. which makes a home meal that much more impressive. Like if you have their power to do like, oh yeah, we just made someone home, I had like chicken, we made a little salad and like something else. It's like, you're amazing. Yeah. You're right.

You're amazing. You know, my level of chef would only be, or my goal would be like, I just want, on average, I have two things on my plate. It's not one. And like sauce doesn't count. Yeah, I would describe my level of cooking. I would describe my level of cooking. I would describe my level of cooking right now to be sad.

It's sad because I'm what's stopping us. What's stopping us from making a nice thing of rice? You throw them in these containers. Meal prep. You get grilled chicken. You get broccoli. You throw them in the refrigerator. Each day you grab it.

You eat it. It's like a nice healthy lunch. You can get whatever you want for dinner. But at least that one meal that you're usually ordering the five guys and the fucking the cheesy sandwiches from all these places. Man, let's just get one nice base meal. Let's start off with something solid in our day, you know? Let's start up with one thing solid.

So what I've been doing actually, so I did that juice cleanse, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago. Are you thinking to that or no? No, but the one thing that I'm doing is kind of like a meal saver is I'm doing a lot of bone broth these days. So chicken beef. I've heard a lot about bone broth. I've heard some good things about it. So like not every day, but sometimes my lunch will just be like a big bowl. of brough.

What was that? Thank you. Big bowl of bone broth. Blah, blubblub. All right. I think that's a good. Chips up lurch. Oh, yeah, big time.

I think that's a good, I think it's a good resolution for the pod. Let's, let's, the boys need to learn how to cook. Dude, we're going to be sharing our meals on social media on the gram. Like that shit. That shit pops. Right. That'll be good.

Frankie takes great pictures of food. We're going to get some traction going. Franky and I took the same fucking picture in Phoenix of the same fucking hole. We were standing. right next to each other. And we both put it on Instagram, on our Insta Stories. And his,

you know, conservatively looked 400 times better than mine. Dude, he deleted his. I did. Well, my photo was how to doctor it up. Like,

he knows how to doctor it up. He's good at that. I put out maybe the strangest photo of all time of taking a polar plunge. And I, I edited that myself yesterday. And people were like, dude, this is the strangest thing I've ever had.

You got to do me a favor to Lurch on your Instagram, story posts. You can't have, words at the top because you can't see them because they're covered by all the other Instagram story people. Okay. So you got to there's like a feedback.

It gives you like a there's like a max line that you go to and it tells you like you can't go above this. You'll actually feel it underneath. It'll like buzz. It's like no. It gives you a vibration thing. I haven't seen the buzz. Yeah.

You're going to love that. That's huge for me. I also go on top of the cooking. I need Frankie to sit me down maybe all of us and be like these are the baseline board. These are the things that can improve your pictures instantly because we need. It's amazing what exposure does, right? So like if you're looking at that mountain, Riggs is getting kicked out of this room.

Okay, great. Thank you. You're looking at this time, boy. That's huge. You're looking at this mountain in Tucson, Arizona. And you're just clicking it immediately. Like, oh, that's really nice. I'm going to snap that.

But you have to really take a second and look at what's happening on the screen of your iPhone and say, like, do I have to click anywhere on the screen? Do I have to get the exposure out? Do I have to click on the mountain? Maybe that's going to dial it in there. There's a lot of things you have to do. It's really not that hard. It's really about looking in the lens or at the screen before you click it and making sure it's the optimal brightness.

And then you can doctor it up after. Your photo was horrible. It was dark. Lighting is huge. It was dark. It was dark. It was like two o'clock in the afternoon. It was dark.

What you did with the picture that you, me and Brian Baumgartner took? I mean, it was a good picture of the first. It's three good looking guys. But what you did to that picture it turned me on to being like, oh, I need to figure out how to. And I did it right in front of you. It took me two seconds.

It was like, adjust the brightness, bring up the contrast and then like add a touch of saturation and give us some life in our faces. And it was over. It was done. You're already saying too many things. Saturation.

No, but it's worth it because the pictures are so much better. He's good at it. I just don't know like the saturation. button. I know how to do like I swipe right and then it like gives me the New York filter. That's, oh, the Los Angeles filter. That one looks pretty good. Oh, the Buenos Aires filter. What a fucking artist I am. Well, cooking, cooking in pictures. That's the resolution. Those are the resolutions and healthy. We're just going to be healthier people. I want to be a better person too.

Well, that's, I don't think that's happening. You know, I want to see the world. Save that for 2025. I want to see the world. Yeah. You got a few more years. tackle that one in a couple of years. All right. We'll be back on Thursday. We got whales and shit. They're playing in Hawaii this weekend.

We know all about that. And we got our golf resolutions. We talked a little bit of golf today. I'm proud of us. We did talk about it. I think the PIP conversation was pretty damn good. That's a good conversation. I think there was some good ideas in there.

Golf on this golf podcast. I mean, that was the biggest story in golf over the break. And there has to be, there has to be some fine tuning to that. I hope. the powers that be somehow listen to that or it gets back to them because there's there's yeah we got it we have to make it better it's got to be better um all right we'll be back on Thursday hit it hot hit it hard hit hard hit hard hit hard hit hard