Fore Play - Podcast Edging, live from Pinehurst

Episode Date: November 7, 2019

We're podcasting live from the Dornach Cottage at Pinehurst. We talk Rory McIlroy, Tiger vs Greg Norman, and LPGA rules controversies. In From The Gallery, we discuss how big the hole would have to be for us to be competitive on the PGA TOUR!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It is now Thursday as you are listening to this. Actually, as you are listening to this, we are at Pinehurst Resort. We are playing Pinehurst number four. It is a Gilhance redo, less than a year old, that it's been redone. You are probably, you're like driving to work or you're on the bus or a, train. Maybe you're on like the seven bus coming out of out of Southie going into downtown Boston.

Maybe you're in, uh, kill yourself. Maybe you're in, uh, Des Moines, Iowa. And you just, and you're looking out at nothing. Like you're just like, you walk, you, you, you, you woke up, you drank a cup of coffee and you just, you're staring at like a cornfield. You're like, what is out there? What's out there in the world? And you listen to us. Could be, could be. We got, we got Iowa listeners for sure. Man, if you're on that seven bus like I used to do, too seriously. I used to do that in the downtown box. Franklin Street and Devin Shire Street, you just want to get out of the bus and just lay underneath it and get run over because it's fucking awful. And now what we're doing.

Maybe you're my buddy, Rob, who a couple weeks ago he bit into his tuna sandwich and his tooth fell out because he's been mining too much of data in a fucking cubicle talking about like medical, like what is efficient for a medical company. So his teeth are falling out of the data. I almost I almost bit my tongue off last night Dude I forgot you said that I don't know I mean we're not gonna talk about the golf Is it played a no I almost bit my tongue in half Didn't you say you had to take a reset pretty close So like 3 a.m. I got up at you reset at 3 a.m. I got up in the middle of the night to take a piss and I

At piner's were saying that the Dornet College College college Dornet College Dornet Cottage and I have to walk across my room To one of the three bathrooms in my sprawling abode that I'm staying in and there's a bit of an elevation change when you walk from the bathroom to the bed where the bed is in the back of the room.

You would buy too much golf. Elevation change? Whatever. There's like a step up. It's a step. There's a step up and a step down. Dude, because the people listen to this don't even know where we're staying, right?

Because we haven't done a podcast since they don't even know what the hell you talk. Like, they don't know where we're at. Didn't we talk about the last show? No. Yeah, we did. Why did we talked? We talked about the fact that we had a Dorda cottage.

No, because we were in, uh, we were at Tobacco Road. Ah, shit. Oh, man. Yeah, man. All right, so I'm sorry. I don't want to listen. We've been doing things. We're recording stuff.

We're recording podcasts after rounds of golf that we're not putting out immediately because we're putting them into a full North Carolina golf trip recap. So our brains are like, think about Frankie at the Justin Thomas podcast and we recorded it in December, but it was coming out in January and he was like, happy new year. The people listening to it now, even though it's not the year. We know what the fuck was going on. We played Tobacco Row. We recorded the podcast.

That was what you guys heard on Tuesday. Now it is Thursday, even though it's Wednesday. Right now, when we're talking, it's Wednesday. Yeah, so it's Thursday for you listening to this. We have now played Pinehurst number 8. We've played Pinehurst number two. We've played the cradle, and we are now playing Pinehurst number four tomorrow. What we have done is every time we've played one of those courses,

we've come back to Donald Ross's old house, the architect, the god of Pinehurst. We are staying in his old house. They don't let you or any other people stay in these houses. You normal folk, you peasants cannot stay. You have to be invited to stay at the Dornick Cottage. Yeah. And we are here sitting by a fire, a blaze, speaking about golf. And we've been doing this for the last three days.

You haven't heard this yet because we're going to save it for when we play The Cradle again and Pinehurst number four. And we are going to put an entire North Carolina episode together where every, where every segment it's going to be our recap of the golf course we just played like right fresh off fresh out of the kitchen yep fresh out of the oven well yeah fresh out of the oven

don't dornet cottage he's been cancelled hot and fresh out of the kitchen yeah you're right you know it's a good fucking line big cancel it just can't say it Dornet Cottage built in 1925 by Donald Ross himself he lived here until he passed away I think it was 1948 that he passed away were right off the third green

at Pinehurst number two it's right out of there. It's a little haunted the house. Has to be. It has his office that looks like he was in there yesterday drawing up plans for how to ruin our day with those greens. The office has drawings for Pinehurst number four just on a table.

Donald Ross built Pioneer's number one, Pinehurst number two, Pioneer's number three, and Pinehurst number four. He was the original architect of those four courses. He has built over 400 golf courses in America. He's got nine courses Inside Golf Digest, top 100.

Pioneer's number two, which is about to host the U.S. Open again in 2024. Has hosted three U.S. opens before. It's hosted a Rider Cup. It's hosted a PGA Championship. Donald Ross has so many phenomenal golf courses. Seminole, which is always way, way, way up there in the rankings. Essex County Club up in North Shore, Mass, which is one of my favorite courses. Manchester by the Sea Area, Essex, Massachusetts.

Skokie Country Club. That movie killed me. I never saw that movie. Chester by the C. Oh. I heard it was. I cried like someone was... I cried like someone was pulling out my eyebrows one by one.

Like it was making me tear. Like, like... Fuck. Like, oh. You know what make me tear up more? Pulling out your nose hairs. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Like, this is like you grew up your nose hairs for a year, like, like two years and someone just plicked them out with their fingers. Like, you know, with their fingers. That's what I was crying watching Manchester by the sea. Nothing good happens in Manchester. but I see only bad stuff. Long story short, we are at the Dornet Cottage. And I know you want to know, right?

I know you're listening to this and you want to know, like, what we just did. We played Piner's No. 2 today. We played Piner's number 8. Like, we've played it already. And, like, stories happen, crazy stuff has happened. And we can't give it to you. You want to hear all about the round on Tuesday. We have told it to you, but we haven't published it yet.

It's just a file. It's sitting on SD card. It's a file just waiting for us to play number four tomorrow, and then we produce it to the world. It's on producer Andrew's SD card. card that's just like in his backpack. It's somewhere just like it's just it's on a physical card. You're gonna get it. You're gonna get it next week. You're gonna be on your hands and knees. Your mouth. You want it

from me. I'm gonna give it to you. Your mouth is wide open. You're like ah, give it to me, Frankie. Give it to me. Give me Pynne Stewart. The whole thing. Give it to me. I want it. And I'm just like, I'm gonna you. I'm gonna hold it, baby. I'm gonna hold it. I'm not giving it. I'm not. Podcast This is called podcast edging

This is called podcast Enging Oh, I'm gonna do it No, pull it away I like it better I like the pain I like the pain, baby This is called podcast edging

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The first 10 minutes of the show, maybe brought to you by like exhaustion. and like sun poisoning and all sorts of things not to complain about what the experiences we don't want to be champagne problems guys but like we're running on day six now we started on a legit private jet that got the late six hours then we drank all weekend in vero beach with country stars jake owen chase rice late fleet was turned into a megastar as he obviously should then we fucking came to piner's we went to tobacco road we stayed at the state of the Dewey Cabin. Then we came and actually came to actual Pynters.

Now we're at the Dornick Cottage. Shout out of Donna Ross. The OG, the legend, our guy. We played two courses at Piner's. Three, if you count the cradle. But we've been, man, we've been working. Man, we've been working. We're doing interviews.

But we've been working. We're doing podcasts. We're responding to emails. We're just working. We're getting shit done. We're not complaining. But here we are. About 10, 15 minutes into this show.

And if you're wondering why things got so. fucking weird out of the gate. It's because our brains have just been... They're fried a bit. It's exhaustion. It's like, we just got our... We just got beat up by Pioneers. Donald Ross just took his greens.

He just smashed our faces in it on the greens over and over and over and over and over again. So that's what's happening. But we are back. We're here to do a podcast. We're here to talk some golf. We mentioned it briefly at the end of Tuesday's show, but Rory McElroy, Rory Maceroy. Rory Maca Roy. Robbie McAvoy.

No couch. No, no count today, eh? Go hit the runway. Oh, me lucky, oh, my lucky charms. Oh, my lucky charms, oh, my lucky charms. Oh, the luck of the Irish. Oh, no, go today, eh? Yeah, all right, you got there.

You know? That's pretty good. You got there. I think, actually, I think that's more of, like, a cartoon version of an Irish person, but, you know. You got to do it, like, oh, the peaky fucking blind. Like, there's some, like, peeky blinders. They're from Birmingham. There's a couple of, who's the guy?

Who's the guy in the first season, like, the cut. He's Irish. The IRA. Yeah. I'm coming for you, Thomas Shelby. Yeah, that's good. The IRA. That's an obscure reference.

I'm coming for you, Thomas Shelby. That's good. Yeah, that's pretty good. But he won again. worry back. Not really his wife, but his lover. Yeah. Rory won in Shanghai.

He won the WGC in Shanghai. One of my favorite things about whenever these WGCs happen is they always put up the stat about how much more dominant tiger. Woods is in WGCs and anyone else in the history of the world. Tiger's won like 19 of them or something like that. And the next closest has won like four. It's like DJ. DJ's one like four or five.

And then there's like a couple people at three and then a million people at two. And it won. And Tiger is at like 19. Imagine Andrews going to text me really soon because he's a big stack guy and he checks that up. Somebody tweeted about it and I want the actual numbers. But anyways, it's a blowout. Rory wins. He beat Xander Shoffley in a place.

way off at the WGC, HSBC Champions in Shanghai. A lot of folks predicting that Rory's going to win multiple majors. I turn on morning drive the other day. You know, my alarm goes off, and we've been, you know,

we have a couple beers each night to kind of like recap the day and all that. And whenever I have a couple of beers, I don't sleep that late, I wake up a little early. So I throw on morning drive, I hear these putses talking about, I don't know why I call them putses there. I like a more.

I mean, we've been on a morning drive. I like that show. I'll take that back. I didn't mean puts. I just was, looking for a term to describe of an adjective. But anyways.

And they were like, yeah, I predict that Rory's going to win multiple majors next year. Now, look, I love Rory as much as the next guy. Rory hasn't won a major championships since 2014. 2014. I mean, but he's certainly playing at a level where you could see majors being coming down the pipe pretty soon. It would be crazy to predict that he's not going to win one. Yeah.

Just like Tiger. You know, in a smaller sentence, right? Like everyone counted out Tiger. He was never going to win one. and we know that he's the best of all time, and that's why you could never count him out. But Rory is, like, built from, now, Tiger is, like, a quilt,

and when I say built from the same cloth, I mean, like, he's a gamer, and he's a champion, he's a winner. Like, he's built from, like, a sliver of Tiger's quilt. Yeah. Right? Yeah, same cloth.

And I don't think you can count out Rory Macaro, no matter how many years go by, even if another three years go by, and Rory is still playing on the PGA tour, you can't count him out. It doesn't matter. He's Rory Maconoff. When he gets hot, he gets blistering hot.

the game better than most people ever. 2014, he was blistering hot. And that's when he was winning. I mean, he was just winning all over the place. So now it almost feels like we're on an upswing again with Roy. He's also won a couple majors, I feel like by like eight shots. Like when he won the U.S. Open at Congressional, I feel like I think he won by like eight.

When he won at Keowell, when he won the PGA there, he won by like eight. So like he could just go on a tear and dominate. 100% get that. I think it would be great for the game of golf if he did do that again. If Roy McEloy sort of re-elevated himself to a mega, a star because as much as we and May like Brooks Kebke, he's a friend of Barstool, he had him

on the show, he's fist-pounded us in between holes at Bethpage Black. He goes on me at the Black. He goes on me at the Black. He pounded us. Yep. Walking off 17. I think Roy McGroy has infinitely higher star power. And so, what, Andrew? What are you looking at? Yeah, you just

pulled the mic away from Frank. You're listing all these people that are really, really good at golf. And I'm just going to say that you said that Tiger Woods is going to win 20 majors. All three of you. So as you're listening off of these people? No, we didn't. Yes, you did. Frankie said he's going to win 20 majors. So you're listening off all these really good people that are going to get hot?

That's why. They're all really good. I love Tiger. Are you the only anti-Tiger guy on our pocket? I love Tiger. We all grew up on Tiger. There's just other really good golfers out there. When we go take care of the boss, man, you're not allowed to come. Yeah, you can't. That would be devastating. We got to blindfold you. You don't deserve to come. You know, I don't know, he's okay. He's allowed to do that. I think we need to have some

anti-tiger and i think you can you can you can flourish in that field on this podcast you're allowed to hate tiger i think that's fine i think it's fine jake like tiger he just said he like you know if he wants to give us like we'll give it right back to him but i think it's good to have another perspective i'll tell you this fucking andrew yeah there you go give it to him that's what all those fucking guys who you just said are so good at golf they were all there the masters when tiger won the fucking masters so what he's like not capable of winning uh he just won he just beat all those fucking losers in Japan. He crushed him. Won by three shots. I'm going to give him the mic back.

Okay, so he won by three shots in one tournament. He's won 82 tournaments, you idiot. Well, we're aware. We're aware. We were there alive. It was a great day. But you're expecting him to win multiple other majors against all these ridiculously good golfers, a

blistering hot Rory Maccroy. Lori hasn't won a major of five years. Five years. Trent, is he blistery? 40 majors? he is and his blistering is unbelievable it is if it can match where he was it's blistering brooks kepka is blistering okay brooks kepka is good hot as he's been put one in the kitty for andrew because he stinks number one and number two he said the you word okay all right so throw that in the kitty true wow why don't you just suck it right in there suck on that suck it you got sucked in don't why don't you suck on that you know you're a little close to the fire

physically and mentally and you fucking said the you word now I have the mic back and here did go a little too close to the fire physically because we have a fire right there's little a fire is between myself and i understand that there's going to be people that say like oh you guys suck tigers dick and you like you will never see other people like like yeah you know what and he's deserved that right for us to say he's going to win fucking 20 he deserves that every time people down he comes back and doesn't get most out of all the people he's playing against that's why he gets to that that's why he's why when we say he's going to win or when i say he's going to win and and and and he's going to beat rory it's because he's done that already he just he's just deserves that. He's earned that right. Shane Lowry and Gary Woodland won majors this year. You don't think Tiger Woods can win majors? Correct. Like, it's not like only the best players in the world win majors all the time. It's not like Rory and DJ win

or Rory DJ Brooks Kepka win every single major. No, they don't. They don't win that many majors at all. Rory hasn't won a major in five fucking years. Tigers are like just as hot as Rory. Correct. Yeah. Tiger and Rory are the only ones that have won three tournaments in the last year. Yeah. And Tigers are a great player of all

time ever he's got the leg up there yeah he's got the leg up he's got the leg up and he's the boss man to fucking take care of him yeah he's the boss man anyways rory one in shanghai is that we were talking about yeah he's a force he's a force to be reckoned with uh i think going into next year like he is already and this is kind of going to be my overall point is he's like already getting all of the shine and brooks kebka is kind of being set up for another classic brooks kepka type year where even though he's the number one ranked player in the world Even though he's won all these majors in the last two and a half years, people are still going to go into next year and be like,

oh yeah, Rory is the guy that's going to win multiple majors. Roy this, Rory that. Meanwhile, Brooks fucking Kepka is the one who delivers in major championships, who's always there, who's won four of them in the last,

like, two and a half years. And I think that, like, he and Rory, God, Rory, or Brooks Kepka is saying that he and Rory don't have a rivalry, has created the most real, like, rivalry. That's a rivalry.

I feel. It's it right there. And right now we're just talking about a world where, oh, Rory McElroy, Brooks, Keppka, and Tiger Woods are the hottest players in the world. Like, oh, boy, that's so terrible. Like, we're a golf podcast. We cover and follow golf for a living. That could not work out better for us.

No doubt about it. Everything's great. It's perfect. It is so perfect. Last time Tiger Woods played golf, he just won. He won. He just, he lifted a trophy. He went to Japan.

He's like, oh, I don't get to choose where you guys pick you. your tournaments. I don't get to choose who plays, but what you're telling me is 30-something of the best top 50 players in the world are going to Japan to play a golf tournament. I'll go to fucking Japan and I'll just win. And that's what he did. That's the last time that he played golf, he just

won. He's also the reigning Masters champion. The Masters tournament is the biggest tournament in the world of golf. So he's the reigning champion of the Masters. He has 15 major championships. He's tied for the most PGA tour wins of all time. He's played the greatest golf that anyone's ever

played ever, ever, ever. It's not even close. So, yeah, we're Tiger Woods believers. I think that he will continue win more major championships and try to convince me otherwise. You can't because there's no logical explanation.

And you don't have a mic, Andrew. And I'm just not going to give you the microphone. I think I had a spelling mishap on an Instagram story just a couple seconds ago. What do you think he said? We took a picture of the fire and us recording and I said, no better place to record than at Donald Ross's house.

And then I wrote, Fuck! What'd you write? I wrote then with an A. Like, what am I doing? No, that's right. That's right. That's right.

No better place to record then, not then. There you go. You're good. I did now. It felt right. Yeah, I'll say. And it's a tough one, man. That's one of those things that for no reason irks me when people fuck that up.

I look at it. I think that's a dumb person. It's pretty easy. Jake's off mic. Oh, we're here we go. We're going to hand Jake to Mike. So he did say Donald Ross. old house.

Isn't it instead of doing the apostrophe S, you do an apostrophe? It should have been Donald Ross. It's a style thing. You're good. You can do that. You can do two S's with the apostrophe on the S or you, right? You can do.

Little known fact. Little known fact. Little known fact. Trent Daddy English major. Yeah, but Andrew's saying I'm wrong, but I thought it was that way. I guess. Yeah, Andrew is an idiot. But.

Andrew has done nothing. So instead of doing the three S's, it should just be Donna Ross. Yeah. I believe that's correct. Now, Andrew is. saying the other way, so I don't think that he's, he's, I know he's an idiot. So I refuse to make eye contact with him because I know he wants the mic. Yeah.

He wants it so badly. This is actually really fun that he can't get them out. We're not going to talk about apostrophies on the podcast. No, I know it's correct to do, a posthrophy podcast. I know it's correct to do Ross R-O-S-S-A-Postomy. I know that's correct. But it might be stylistically correct in other places, too, to just throw another S on there. And you know what?

I'm going to make it stylistically. Yeah, fuck it. Fuck it. Because I don't know if they didn't fuck up the van. I don't know if that many people will pick up on the roster. I can't tell the listeners how much Andrew just wants the mic and he just can't get it. I'm going to edge you on this mic. Let Go is the fastest growing mobile marketplace to buy and sell locally.

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I'm not sure if Tiger Woods just doesn't like me. We had Greg Norman on this show. We did an hour with Greg Norman. The shock, the shock. One of the best podcasts we've done for sure. I am, so we're often asked, like, hey, who's the, who's your, favorite interview you've ever done honestly you've had so many people on the show that like i just forget about a lot of them i'm like man i don't know i think matthpatrick was incredibly

he came in we really know much about him um you know he's obviously like english which is just totally like from a different fucking continent so you don't know how that's gonna go and he was the man my number one i tell people all the time is like you have to listen to the great norman podcast he told stories about breaking fucking knees with like bill clinton yeah he just he was cocky but like such a star greg norman is the man i hate to see the this situation with he and Tiger Woods. But I do think Tiger Woods doesn't like Greg Norman. When I first saw the story, I thought it was, I didn't know he had the note hand

delivered. I thought it was like a text message that I was like, hey, congrats. And he can kind of just go. You don't see him. And Tiger's not looking at all of his text messages. He's got probably a couple people he communicates with and that's it. I didn't know that it was hand delivered and now Greg Norman has been ghosted by Tiger Woods.

That's tough. That's tough. You got hand delivered ghosted, which is, yeah. Yeah, you don't see it. Way worse than it's really hard to get over that. You know what else is? You think, like, you think, like, Tiger's been waiting to, like, see him or something and be like, hey, I got your message after the Masters, thanks so much.

Like, you think? No. You don't think so? You think he hates him? Yep. Because, like, that's tough that he gets, like, called out for it. I know it's been a long time. He's had a long time to answer and respond.

But here's the thing is Greg Norman, and he said this in the interview. He's like, look, I don't sugarcoat and I don't bullshit. You're asking me this question about this situation. And, like, this is what happened with Tiger. So I love that Greg Norman just tells it how it is. That's kind of what we talk about with Rory all the time. Rory's like super candid. And some athletes have made comments about it now where they're like,

I hate that the media demands and has this like thirst for athletes to like tell the truth and tell it how it is. But then they get totally like roasted and ridiculed when they do tell it how it is. And so I feel like Greg Norman is kind of going through that right now. And the golfers are like, this is what happened with talking about him. There's no different response. Not sure if he hates me or maybe he just like it just he just didn't think to respond or whatever, but this is just what happened. And now we're all drawing on this storyline that like Tiger Woods hates Greg Norman, but I do think the Tiger Woods like doesn't like. I agree with everything you just said.

I like when athletes are very candid and they give interesting answers. But I'll tell you what, I know who doesn't like that this has become a story. And that's the bossman. That's the boss man. Right. And I agree with that. Do you think that he's done something to Tiger? And that's like just like Tiger doesn't like certain publications or people like because they're,

They've wronged him in the past. Do you think Greg Norman's ever made a comment? Yes. Okay. I want to say Greg Norman back in the day, maybe he was like skeptical, right? Because like Greg Norman in the mid-90s was like peak Greg Norman. That was when he like collapsed. That was my favorite golfer early on.

Me too. Yeah. The hat and the wallaby down by the shock. The wallaby down by the shock. Tiger Woods didn't answer my. Tiger Woods. Whoa. You're way off.

The wallaby. It's not like you swallowed some helium. The wallaby down by the shock I can't do it Your brain's fried What are you right now? What continent are you on? The wallaby

The wall will be down by the shock The wallaby down by the shock My name is You know what you sound like You sound like an ow-now brown cow Anchorman before he goes on air The wallaby down by the shock My name

The arsonist has oddly shit My name is Jack My name is Greg Norman Fuck No you don't have it today No I don't They can't find it. I can't grab it.

Speaking, we are going to Australia. Which I have, like, do people know that? You know, I know people want to listen to this podcast. I don't really want to talk about it because I can't think about it. Yeah. That's just too much. We got it to process. We got to complete this trip before we start thinking about the next week.

We still have to play Pioneer No. Tomorrow. Yeah. Like, the fact that we're going to Australia and plan like these crazy courses and going down for the fucking President's Cup, holy smokes. We're going to a whole other country, boys. A whole other country. He has a little throwback.

Yeah. You called back that one. Yeah. Oh, yeah, people do know. Australia is so far. 22-hour trip. That's including a layover in California. 22-hour total trip.

They got to go through lax. Lacks, bro. What do you got to do? Can't you get like a blood clot sitting on a fucking plane that long? Why do you always got to think about the worst ship? I don't know, man. You're crashing blood clots? You're sitting down in a chair for 22 hours?

People fly to Australia all the time. I don't get blood clots. I bet you they walk up and down the plane. I'm going to walk up. You got to get up. You got him get up a little bit. sit perfectly still for 202 hours. I was thinking about it.

We are going there. I just want to see a fucking kangaroo. I want to see a wall. Oh, we did talk about this because that kangaroo got punching the drop. Yeah, that's right. I forgot that we talked about it. We narrated it. We did talk about it.

Phil Mickelson, his streak, 26 year streak, inside the top 50 in the official world golf rankings just ended. 26 years. I wish I could take credit for this. It's an amazing accomplishment. You wish you could take credit for that? That's amazing. I wanted to at least say that's an amazing accomplishment before I said what I was about to say.

Incredible by Phil. That's great stuff. You had nothing to do with him playing. No, no. It really could have been less than ball. But now I don't want to take credit for this. Somebody tweeted me and said, I wish I could remember their name. He is now eligible to play in the John Deere Classic.

So if Phil Mickelson wants to play in the John Deer Classic, he's no longer in the top 50. He can now play. we'd love to have him. Lefty, come on out. It's the week before the British Open. Just, you know, a little tune up before you head over. I know, does he play in the Scottish Open every year? I can't remember.

He usually does, yeah. Yeah, so skip that. Come to the John Deer Classic, and you're all good. Would you rather Phil Mickelson play in the John Deer Classic this year, or Tiger Woods win a regular, like, Farmers Insurance Open, like regular tournament. Would I rather have... Just Phil Maclinson participate in your tournament that we scold you for, where we say no one would ever want to play in.

A dog shit. It'd be number 83? Yeah. I want 83. I want 83. Not even you care about your own tournament. No, I do care, but I, I, the boss man is important to the, to this podcast as a whole. And the John Deere Classic is very important to me personally.

So this, I'm really doing it for you guys. How do you think John Deere Classic thinks about and feels about us shitting on the tournament every podcast? We don't. I don't, I don't, I think it's so, like, satirical that, I think they know at this point that, like, they, they're going to invite us there and they're going to invite us there and they're going to, put on all their bells and whistles and they're going to like like john near classic's going to be like our favorite tournament in the world me and frank you're going to be riding like horseback style on a john near around that fucking golf course and it's going to be an iconic like we shit on it but like it's just it's like the base for all of our jokes right like if if if tiger woods wins the masters

it's like well like you know that's the opposite of that would be winning the john dear classic you know what i mean like it's all the opposite we're at dinner last night with our friend tom Pashley, he was the president of Pynhurst, and I just in private, like, made a comment roasting the John Deer class. He's like, we thought about doing John Deer's for Pinehurst. But Pashley said, Pashley, he said that he played in the John Deer classic pro in, and he thought it was great. What a wrinkle that was.

Yeah, you really blew up in your face. We're going to be talking about him at some point in the, in the, for years to come. Yeah, for years to come, but at some point in that North Carolina podcast that's coming down Tuesday. But I just want to say that, that man is a delight. He's the president of Pinehurst, all of Pinehurst. all of Pinehurst. I wrote that.

I wrote an Islander blog that time. I'm on the Islander blog train right now. The Islanders won 10 games in a row. I don't know if anyone understands this. I know Larch isn't here to defend himself and Andrew's here

but I won't give him the mic. I won't even look at them. The Rangers are a joke and the Islanders have won 10 games in a row. I can't contain myself. I had to speak. We're not a hockey podcast. We're not going to talk about it.

The Islanders are like franchise altering hot right now. They're a wagon. It's the second longest streak in their entire franchise's existence. History. Yeah. We are experiencing that right now So I wrote a blog about it And this guy

Cole Bardrow Which I actually missed a lot of the fucking details Because I was just trying to get it up so fast This guy broke his neck That guy last night broke He's a New York kid Which I knew I just forgot to fucking talk about

He's a New York kid who broke his neck Didn't think he was ever gonna play again He spent 250 games in the minors Six seasons Never thought he didn't get out He worked his way back The Islanders called him up After four injuries

He hasn't even been We have literally one of the best prospect pools on the islanders in the entire NHL. We have like all these guys in the USA team, Canada team, juniors, everything. We're not going to talk about Hark. We fucking called this kid up. He got a shot. He's played for like the last week. He gets a penalty shot

last night at home, scores his first NHO goal. He goes up to the fucking bench. They're going crazy for him. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because Tom, the president of the entire thing of Pinehurst, was at the fucking dinner table with us at the Pinehurst Brewery. And I'm

watching this Islander game trying to hide it from him. because I didn't want to be that rude. So I had it like set up behind the barbecue stuff that he couldn't see. And then Cole Bardro is about to get this palatheel of the show. So I had the whole table watching. And I think like Tom like sat up in his chair. He's like, oh shit. Like this guy's about the score.

And when he scored, I saw the president of Piner's give a little fistpump. He's like, yeah. I was like, what are we doing here? We're watching the Islanders. They're just your best friend. Someone said to us when we came in, welcome home. Welcome home. Your home.

This is your home. Dude, we sat at the Piner's brewery, which is only a year or two. old. Looks like it's been there for 200 years. We sat at the Piders Brewley last night. We had dinner, our whole crew. We got the two producers, like you said, Jake and Andrew, who will never give the mic to ever again. And then the three of us, and we, so we had

and then we were joined by Tom Pashley, who's the president, who I got to know at Band and Dunes. I was out there imagine now. He's the nicest guy in the world. And he's actually been, like, contact and hanging us up for like months, maybe like years. Be like, you know, I know what you guys do. And

we've added the cradle, which has live music and the pine cone and the brewery and we're trying to make it very clear that like this is more than just a destination for like families um this is a destination for like buddies this should be piners should be on the map when you're looking at like places to go for buddies trips um and tom bashley who is the nicest guy in the world it's crazy how nice he is he is such a powerful as he is like to overlook such a massive golf resort you're talking 10 courses You're talking restaurants, hotels. He was telling us to that's last night.

He didn't know when he was going through it that he'd be like, he wasn't like in the food and drink industry. He wasn't in the hotel management industry. He was like he went for what? He's a sales guy. Sales person. He worked in sales and like worked all he's been here by like 22 years. He's a sick golfer.

He worked his way up. He started here at Piner's before the 1999 U.S. Open, which is the one that Paine Stewart won. Last night he's telling us the whole process about like creating the logo for the cradle. And like that whole process, which is a hilarious process and the different like avenues that he went down to get that done. I have a cradle belt on right now that I bought. Because after he told us in stores, like, I got to have a belt. I bought a pylon logo.

So I bought the size I thought I needed. And it was one of the more embarrassing things I've ever seen. Oh, it was. This was a good moment. Because I'm skinny and I'm skinny fat. And I'm sorry. I got this pouch and this pooch. You got tits?

Yeah, I got these tits. And I, you know, I'm a 32 by 32. But now, you know, I asked Peter Milar to send me a 33 by 32. And, you know, I sent the message to them like, hey, guys, I know all those panties that But they just not cutting it anymore So I bought just thinking like, you know, my whole life has been 32 32 And I went in, I got a belt, really nice belt 32 And I tried to put this thing on and I swear it didn't even go around halfway

I walked back into that- You were trying to squeeze yourself into that belt on the first tee What a walk in shape Dude, I walked back in there and the guy behind the pro shop at Pinerce was like Didn't fit, did it? I was like, nope This dude, I got 34. I'm two sizes. You're getting up there, man.

Yeah. You're getting up there. Oh, he said that to you guys. Yeah, he's just like, didn't fit, did it? I didn't even have to say anything. He's like, come on, bring it back. Man. Yeah.

Christina Kim. So speaking of Pioneerst, they had the Q series Q school for the LPGA tour here at Pioneer. Over like the last week right before we got here. This has turned into quite the debacle as golf tends to do. So what happened was, She, I'm going to read this. According to Golf Week's, Beth Ann Nichols, who covers women's golf very well, the infraction occurred after Christina Kim hit her T-shot Thursday on Pinehurst number nine's par 317th hole.

As Dewey Weber prepared to play, the third player in the group, Kendall Dye, motioned to Weber's caddy, asking if Weber had hit an eight iron. Tram confirmed wild players are allowed to look into their. competitors bags to determine what club they selected. They cannot ask players, other players, or their caddies. And so Dye had violated Rule 10-2. Unknowingly, so had Weber. Kim then went out and tweeted, quick PSA.

If you're a golfer, please read and know the rules, please, with a bunch of, like, heart emojis. What happened was she, like, reported the incident. So then the other two both got penalized. and it's turned into a massive thing. Kendall Dye then came out and wrote like a long, um, classic,

uh, screenshot your notes app, um, basically saying like, look, it turns out that what we did was against the rules. I've been playing professional golf for like 10 years. I did not know that that was against the rules.

Um, it's insane to label me a cheater. I wasn't cheating. I just didn't know it was against the rules because you can just look into somebody's bag and see what club is missing and know what they're hit. You can also just observe a caddy or a player. Like if a caddy will tell the on-course reporter, right? Like a lot of times they'll do that to Roger Mulpy or so. They'll flash him the number. They'll flash them the number. You're able to witness that. You're able to observe that,

deduce what club they hit and use that information. But you're not allowed to actually engage with the player or the caddy that hit the shot and in any way like ask them or have them signal to you what they hit. And so they got a penalty for that. So she basically came out and just said. I didn't know that. Well, that makes me wonder how often do you think this happens and just nobody says anything? All the time. That's what I'm saying. So according to everyone like Kip Henley I saw, who's obviously a PGA tour caddy.

We've had him on the show two or three times. He's very vocal on Twitter. He was like tweeting out like this happens on the PGA tour every hole, which it does get a little dicey. And there is and people have been like defending Christina Kim who's taking a lot of heat for being like a dart. all this and that. People were defending her being like, well, actually, if you know of like a rules violation on the course and you don't say something, then you're actually subject to penalty. So it's like kind of a tricky, tricky place to live in.

Yeah, I just think if she never says anything, I think nothing happens. Like I get that the flip side of they are. That argument to me on the other side is a little thin being like, oh, you knew, so now we're going to penalize you. I think it just goes. It happens and nobody says anything. It's also so dumb that you can look in someone's bag and find out what club they hit, but you're not allowed to just like ask.

What's the fucking difference? You got to ban both if you're going to ban them. This is the golf shit that people hate. Yes. Like, why are we talking about this? You can't talk and see what club they hit. What do you mean? You can't verbally say it, but you can look.

That's what's dumb. And they're so stingy about it. That's what's dumb. Either make it like a blanket rule where you're not allowed to like find out the information in any way. Which would be outrageous because you're just standing next to the purse. So just get rid of the rule Yeah Get rid of the rule

Stop being Stop having golf rules Be like why the fuck is that a rule Yeah Like if you look at all of them Be like why is that a rule? Get it out Yeah if anybody if yeah If we're sitting here thinking

Why is that a rule You just kick it out of the book Erase it use an eraser Or white out Because it's embarrassing You ever use white out? Oh yeah Oh my God yes

Yeah tons I used to pride myself On how clean I used to white out stuff Yeah I could see you being really meticulous So like my first week or two weeks of school, middle school, high school, I used to get all my marble notebooks

and all different colors and everything was, dude, like that first day of school when you're writing down, like, the itinerary of what the class is going to be and the teacher's writing down. I was so fucking neat, man. Like, I'm talking. If I, like, mess up, I'd rip the page out

and, like, restart. Because I, like, I wanted to, I always thought, I wanted to hear how messed up this is. I always thought that, like, if I died, I want the people to go through my books. Dude, when I was like 15. Why didn't think you're going to die so much? 13. I remember, like, seeing a movie.

And, like, I went into my room and, like, I started a diary and I wrote, like, I wrote in it, like, I love my mom and dad. Yeah. So, like, in case anything ever happened to me, like, they'd go back. You did that on the podcast, I was right? And, like, they'd go back and be like, oh, he loved his parents. Like, look how cute this. You know what I mean? That's sweet and a pretty sick and twisted way.

It's dark, man. It is dark. Like, 13-year-old just in there like, damn, man, something could happen. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah, that's sweet, but also like a movie or something where that is, you know. Yeah, they looked underneath the mattress and there was like notes and stuff, you know? Yeah.

You want to do something cute? Yeah, I just thought like I'd be cool. Like, I thought like I had to do that. Weird. Demented. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it sounds like leaving notes in case I died. A recent Gallup survey shows Americans worry more about burglary than almost any other crime. More than mugging, more than terrorism, more than car theft and murder.

According to studies, just over 10% of break-ins are planned. beforehand. I almost forgot to put that part in. Just over 10% of break-ins are planned beforehand. The rest are spur of the moment, crimes of opportunity. In other words, random. Did you know most break-ins happen between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m.? That's that always just throws me off for a loop.

You know, you always think lock the doors at night, the bad boys are coming. Yeah, but everybody's at home at night. Yeah, I know. I don't know. You just never think, like, and if you're out at work, it's like, yeah, I got, do you guys ever do the thing as a kid when you go on vacation? You leave the lights on in the house? So it looks like you're home.

Oh, my, I can't imagine what my bill, my dad's been paying the bill, like the art electric with my mom. She makes sure there's like, it's essentially like McCullochin. Yeah, it looks like there's a party in my house. It's like we have, we have music going on. Like, you got Michael Jordan on a train. Yeah, we got. Dude, I'm telling you, man. Like, there's never lights off in my house.

My mom's got that thing like bumping. You know, you come back and you're like, hello? Yeah. Like, someone moving? I used to come home. and be like, is, what's, is there a party going on? Like, I'll text my mom. Like, what happened in here? Like, no, we're just out to dinner. Like, I just want to scare off. Like, oh, I thought, oh, you just made a noise.

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We are back. We haven't done from the gallery in a long time. Long time. Long time. Yeah. It's been a while. Probably got some good emails. We do have good emails.

Foreplay at barstoolsports.com is how you can contact us. That is how you can email us. Make them short. Make the subject should say from the gallery because what I do, a little behind the curtain, a little peak here, is that I just search in the email inbox. I just search from the gallery. So if your email doesn't say from the gallery,

I won't fucking read it. Quick shout out to all the stewies we ran into it out of tobacco road. Ran out to? Ran out to. Did you run out to a bunch of people? Did you see people? I wanted to sneak in something nice. I wanted to shout out to the stooleys.

Imagine you saw people that are being friendly. You just sprinted across the course too. Yeah. We have ran into a lot of people. Yeah. A lot of four-play people. It feels like every single golf course we're at. there's a gallery waiting for us at 18 or not.

It's crazy. Yeah. I will say it sucked today at Pyrus number two because I bladed my second shot on number 18 over the green. And then the Pineshurst, the 18th hole at Pieders number two is one of the more spectacular vistas that you'll ever see in golf with like how long it's been there. They got the Paine Stewart, all the statues. And then the Deuce restaurant, which is crazy. And it's called Duce because you just played number two and you probably have to shit afterwards. And then there's all these people standing out of the restaurant on the balcony.

And sure enough walk right up there. And the guy's like, 10 bucks you don't get up and down from here, Riggs. And I'm like fucking behind like a Donald Ross green with this chip. And it was a whole scene. But anyways, Fordplay at barsoil sports.com. That is how you email us.

Big shout out to all the stories, like Trent said. It's been crazy, man. The amount of people that just yell butter knives. It's so funny. So much. It's every single person that drives me. We were out on the cradle.

And somebody who was just like, good luck, butter knives. It's like, it's like every single person that, like any person, that is like 18 to 45. That's on a golf course that like you just can tell that they would like know what Barstall is or whatever.

Like they just, they look me in the eye immediately and they're just like butter knives. Like it's just like right in my eyeball. Yeah. And then I do something like I did on one. I mean, there's no, there's no hide in it. We tweeted out. I bladed the shit out of my first wed shot today at Piner's number two. That was one of the most vicious skullfogs you've ever had.

Boy, oh boy. I thought I was so confident. I'm like, all right, let's go. baby. We're a piner's number two. I'm right in front of the green, up and down. You hit that thing. It looks like you hit it with a bat.

I was probably 15 yards off the green. I hit it 15 yards off the back. Yeah. Hanky-panky just texted me. That's my guy. Trent's caddy at Aaron Hills, when he trented it. Yep. And he just texted me and said,

got to tell Trent, keep the head down. You'll watch it. Yep. That was the mantra at Aaron Hills. And I've been doing that. I've been doing that a little bit. I'm not going to give anything away about our piner's. This has been a big don't give it away.

week. I know. Because next week, everything's gonna come. I actually had Aaron Hills. I'm gonna release. I'm gonna stop holding it out. I'm gonna release all over you.

You're gonna let it go. The Aaron Hills. The Aaron Hills. The Aaron Hills Instagram account. You're not gonna be able to handle me on Tuesday. You're a sick man. No warning. You're just gonna release.

Yep. See you next Tuesday. The Aaron Hills, the Instagram account, DM me like an hour ago. Because I Instagram story had a picture of the shirt that I wore today, the gender classic shirt. And they just, uh, DM me.

said return of the Mac. So we shout out to the people, Aaron Hills. I'm thinking about wearing my Aaron Hills polo tomorrow. I've got one with me too. For number two. Number four. I might wear it too. Danny.

I bought a sick Pinehurst, a little dingy. I think I'm going to wear that tomorrow. I'm wearing a sick Pinesh. I may wear that. I may wear that the rest of the trip. That little blue thing I bought. That thing is nice.

I'm definitely wearing it in front of kids. That's a hell of an item. You know what's going to be chilly and we're in Aiken, too? Yeah, that's why I'm wearing it. How about after we leave Pinehurst? We're going to Aiken, South Carolina. to hang out. South Carolina. Say it, Frankie? South Carolina. To go hang out. You do the L.

well. Carolina. To hang out with Kisner and Duffner and all these guys for the weekend. We're playing Palmetto on Friday. What a world, man. What a grind this is. Danny says this is a great, this is a great from the gallery. I want everyone to think, okay,

I'm not, I'm about to say it. But I want you before I say it, all you people out there, you got your email pulled up and that my whole little spiel there, you typed in from the gallery in the subject line. You came up some fucking dumb-ass thing to send me. Some brutal story, some long shit story that nobody cares about. I want you.

I don't. You're trying to do care? I want you. I care. I want you don't. I do. I care. I want you to look at, I want you to listen right now.

I want you to fucking perk those ears up. I want you to listen to Danny's from the gallery. This type of shit is fucking good. This is what we need. How big would the golf hole have to be? You to be competitive on the PGA tour. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, that's the one.

That is so simple. The one time you drank a beer with your buddy and played golf, like, that's sick, dude. I want to know your hypotheticals. I want to know how big the hole has to be for me to win. Okay. Let me ask you this. If that hole was two feet radius, I'm a professor. I'm Tiger Woods.

And, right, there's no one I'm not. How do you miss? Two feet wide. You send a missile in there. Two feet wide. Two foot, two foot around a radius. hole, I'm Tiger Woods. I never lose. I don't

know that's true, man. It's only for you, right? It's only for you? It's only for you. It's only for you. Oh, yeah. Two foot. Like, everyone else is playing with a normal hole, you have a two foot wide hole. No, because, like, you can still dremble the ball, hit it O.B. Easily, dude. How large is this

fire pit? All right. It's huge. No. Radius? Yeah, what's... Diameter. This guy's saying, One of his suggestions with a two-foot radius, which means a four-foot diameter.

Is that correct? A four-foot diameter. Think about that, man. Dude, I know people are saying, oh, Frankie, there's no chance. When you see a four-foot diameter, like, we're looking at this fire pit right now. How do you miss? It's a crater in the ground. Yeah, it is.

I think most of the times you would just chip in from wherever. Everywhere. You'd chip it from everywhere. You'd be making birdies like crazy. No, it can't pop out on it. It's got to be as deep as it's a normal hole depth. It's got to be as deep as it is wide. Normal hole.

Just like you like it. You know what I'm saying? No what I'm saying. No. No, but why? You like that shit deep in the line. No, but like, I feel like you would bounce out.

Oh, it can't. That's the whole thing. It's not an inch deep into the normal depth of a golf hole. And the wire in there would stay there. If you fluid in there would stay? Yeah, in the hole. The way the hole is is it like, it funnels towards the bottom, right? A golf hole is it like flat at the ballhole.

flat at the bottom. The pin would be so girthy and huge. The pin would be massive. It'd be like a tree. You'd hit it in a tall. Okay, yeah. The pen would be huge. Yeah. Yeah, I would win. I'd win so many tournaments. You would, by the one. You'd imagine that big, fucking thick pin. All right, so think about it. Even, so here's my question. Big pick pin in that hole.

Here's my thing. As long as it doesn't ricochet off, right? It's been nice. This is the weirdest. We did a lot of weird shows. This might be the weirdest one. I know. And my parents listen to this. dinner. Dude, the other night, I called my dad. I called my dad, and I'm like, hey, how's it going?

He's like, hey, son. And I'm like, oh, like, I'm telling him about North Carolina. And I'm like, how's it going? He's like, listen to the podcast yesterday. I'm like, oh, geez. And my mom's like, hi, honey. I was like, what's going on? And she was on speakerphone.

I'm like, what's going on, mom? And she's like, oh, nothing. We just listen to your podcast. I'm like, which one? She's like the last one. It was one of the grundle ones. Yes. And she's like, the one I spanked my grundle on.

Well, none other than this. You know what? It's all parody law. Like, it's all, you know. We're sure. Have a good time. Oh, yeah. And back to it.

As long as you avoid the fact that the thicker it gets and the longer it gets, that it won't knock the ball out. And when I hit like a 150-yard shot that it won't hit the pin and it ricochets back, as long as that, like, doesn't happen. And we're just talking, we're talking the hypothetical of like how big does the whole lot to be. I'm saying four-foot radius, four-foot-feet diameter. You would one-pot every hole. You would one-putt every hole, and you'd chip in all the time.

Even if you hit a bad drive, let's say like today I topped one, right? You top a ball. Yeah. Your next one, you swing it all the way in front of a bunker, right? You hit, like, you hit your recovery shot. Even if you're in the trees, you punch you out. The worst that's going to happen is you're going to make a par. The worst that's going to happen.

You're going to make a par. You're going to hit it out. You're going to punch in front of the green. Then you're just going to chip it in. Yeah. I would never miss. a four foot fucking pot a hole. You would literally be like, give me a chip.

If I just have a chip, I'm in the hole. Because people, you have to understand how wide this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this pit is. This is probably a, this is this is this is this is this is massive. So I think my answer is if you give me a six foot wide hole, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm passing tiger by you got 83 wins in like the next. I'm fucking dusting people. Yeah. And imagine how devastated.

And you're playing all the time. He was like, this is easy. Yes. And imagine like what I have, like, when you make pogeys. Imagine when you're hitting it well for a stretch. Like, oh, oh, Riggs is on five greens a regulation a row. He made a 90-footer, a fucking 40-footer. And they all just went right in.

It was like never even close. Never even close. He punted it way too hard. It just went into the hole. I like it. I like picturing it as like everyone else when they're watching you play, the whole is the real size. And when you play, it's like shallow howl. Like when the heat.

sees like what he, the version that he wants to see, but people see the real version. They're just watching you drain 90 footers. No, what is this? It's your chance to go, the hole expands. Yeah. Right? It's like Santa Claus. And then the hole looks even smaller for the next guy.

Santa Claus. And then the hole looks even smaller for the next guy. You go to the PGA-Dor stats site. It's like strokes game putting and it's like Riggs is like at 13. Wait, are you saying that they watch the hole expansion? Yeah. That's ridiculous. The mechanically gets bigger and then I putt and then it shrinks right back to the side.

There are going to be some complaints from the other players. I just don't fucking understand why the hole gets so goddamn big for this guy. It's just so easy. Oh, man. See, that's good stuff. That is. Do you think of the hole were like two feet in diameter? You'd still be that good?

No, so I originally said two feet, but I meant like, I meant what this is, like, from end to end. You know what I mean? The diameter. Two feet would not be enough. No. No, because then you still got to make, you got to still make shots. Yeah. It's got to be this big.

It's got to be, it's got to be massive. It's got to look like this. It's got to be like the center court logo on a fucking basketball court. Like that's how big it's got to be if you're like visualizing. Yeah, I think once you get into two foot area, like, yeah, you'd be, you'd be better, but that's not enough. Like, we'd be fucking making doubles and triples still all the time. Right, because there's times where I'm putting for five and putting for six, you know. I still.

currently one putt for double all the time. Because I'd just chip it in in the big hole. In the big hole. I would just, I would never, like, two feet, you'd still make a lot of puts with a two-foot hole. Two-foot holes, right? Because think about this, like, you wouldn't even have to lag it.

Like, you could just drill it at the hole and it would just go with it. Right, your lag putts would you just make it. Like, now I know that you're thinking, a lot of people are probably thinking, like, well, it's not like I'd get it within two feet in all my puts. No, but you don't have to die it in the hole. You would just send a missile of a pot. If you had, like, a 40-footer, you could just take all the breakout and just buried at the hole and it would just fall into that too clean.

screaming at the hole. It would matter, yeah. You'd be sick. God, I wish a course would like do this for one day. And like, maybe they're redoing their greens. And like the last day of the season, they punched like massive holes in these greens, right? So I've played one before. Really?

One time at Granite Links, the seventh hole on the Milton side, they, uh, and we didn't even know about it. They had like an event there that day. And my buddies and I teed off like late in the afternoon. and it's a driveable par four and we fucking hit our T shots and like one guy hits a great shot he hits it to like maybe like

20 25 feet and the other guys are just off the green and they're thinking like all right like we're got in good shape like we'll chip it up there close make birdie and the other guy who's got like 20 feet 25 feet for eagle probably like two punt and we'll make birdie and get out here we get up there on the green and walk across the green and the hole is

legit like two feet wide and the guys that miss the green are so rattled they're like what the fuck is this like well and sure enough my guy shout out to jeremy morin uh played the nchl for a while one of my good buddies is calling jet he legit just like while laughing like maniacally buried his butt from like eagle baby eagle he's like walking across the green doing like the eagle flap in the it wasn't even it was it was so easy dude it was a man he just it was like it never had a chance to miss he just from 30 feet he just fucking rolled it down the hill

just, and just caught like the left part of all. You think you ever go like two or three feet? Like if you know, if you know that all you have to do is hit it hard, you will never go two or three feet away from the hole. Two or three feet? I think how many, like, slide by?

Like, you'll never have a sliding putt. Dude, I just so many, like a foot to the right. You know what I mean? Right. That's me like really trying to get in the little hole.

I don't like talk about this because when we play tomorrow, the hole's going to look like a fucking penny. I have to have to, I'll have to, I'll forget about this. Yeah. Think about how many times, like, when you race a putt, right? You bury a put too hard, and it goes right by the pin.

You're like, hit it, hit it? That just goes in in this. Oh, my God. It goes in so easy. You'd be a real threat. Pete asked, would you rather rip driver 325 plus yards down the middle? Think about how Roy drives the golf ball consistently and play your irons like you currently do or have Tiger the boss van's iron play and hit your driver like you do now.

I mean, that's an easy one for me. I like the way I drive the golf ball right now. Obviously, I'd like to hit it pretty much 100 yards further than I do right now. But my irons are so shit and I just hate them so much. And I hate looking at them and I see him in that bag. I'm like, why do you hate me? You disgust me. You look at them.

You're just like fuck you. Like my five, my four and five iron, those things like, those things are mean to me. They bully me. I hate them so much. Take your lunch money. They do. They do. I look at them and they just like, they stare me.

I don't even make eye con. contact with them. That's how scary they are. So I would... Books down in the hallway. You close your eyes look the other way and you're like, yo, Caddy, can you hand me that for her? I don't want to look at that thing. It's just, it's... My irons are such a mess that, yeah, if I could drive it the way I do right now and I

have Tiger Woods's irons. Dude, Trent... Trent hit a pure slice yesterday with an iron. It was... It was a part three, and it was just a pure slice. Like, I had never really... They would say, like, oh, you come out to end, and it just... And this is what happens. The spin

comes off the face, and it goes right. He hit this slice. It just made a noise like, wha! And it just, it was perfect. And you never once, like, broke your plane. You just came from out to end and you pulled it, and the ball went perfectly straight and then just turned to the right. It was perfect slice.

That Frankie, as I was walking over there, he said that ball might be in half over there. Yeah. Because that's how badly I sliced it. You just sliced it. When you only the last time you hit a green with a four iron was? Oh, boy. I don't even use it. I'm so scared of that iron that I don't even use it anymore.

Honestly. I don't even go near it. It's just too flat? I can't do it. Yeah. I mean, you talk about butter knives. Yeah. I just, I look down at that thing and it's just, I'm not going to get out the ground.

I'm going to, I'm about to start digging a hole with it. So what was the first part of this hypothetical? Would you rather rip your driver 325 yards consistently down the middle like Rory does and play your irons like yourself, your current self, or have tiger-like iron play and hit your driver like you do now? the answer is a thousand percent tiger woods irons me too yeah i mean that's just how you score that's how you score that's how you score that you know it would be fun to rip driver like that but it'd also be fun to just throw darts all day and just laughing people's faces yes like i would rip driver like that and i would still shoot the same scores i shoot now yeah you know right there's no like for me it'd actually be worse i'd have like 70 yard chips and like i'd have to like do all

this cute bullshit like no way like let me hit my regular drive like even if i pull it or like I shank it. I still have Tiger Woods as irons. You kidding me? If I shank a ball, I'm going to hit a low stinger. It's also like, imagine what it would feel like to be like, oh, there's a middle right pin. I'm going to hit like a cut seven iron here to that right pin.

And then the next hole will be like, oh, there's a front left pin. I'm going to hit a spinner draw that's going to land like 20 feet behind it and spin to 15 feet and, like, have a good look at it. Also, how about this? What's so much fun? What world is that? That would be so much fun. Also, how about this?

Driver never comes out of the bag. I take my fucking stinger out. And I just hit irons all day. off the tea. Yeah. And I'm just, I mean, I hit it, I hit a 270 off the T, low missile. That's true. You have Tiger Stinger.

And awesome. We're playing like 65, 6, 6,600 yards. You'd be lights out. Lights out. You'd kill us. I would be Tiger Woods from T to Green until now the boogeyman comes out, and it's my putter. I'd sign up for that all day. The other way, it's just like, oh, you're Rory for a second.

No, I'd rather be Tiger Woods for a long time. Yep. Long time. Yeah. Yep. All right, boys. I think that's it because I'm starting to get a little woozy. I feel like I'm going to start hallucinate here a little bit.

We got a dinner to go to. We're going to the Pine Crest Inn. Apparently you can chip into this fireplace or something like that. Is that a, are you scared about that? I am. I am. I'm really scared. Yeah, you have to be. Imagine I just take out people at this restaurant.

Well, you said there are there other patrons then? Yeah. That would be interesting. Chip into a fireplace. How are you going to do? You can't chip onto a green. Seems like a small window. I don't know what that means.

I'm not sure either. Oh, we'll be back on Tuesday. Next week is going to be Pinehurst week. I mean, we're going to have, again, we've been recording like, we keep sitting an hour. Go, let's do 10 minute recap. We did an hour yesterday, recapping our couple rounds, and we did the same thing today. So we're going to have next week, we're going to have a full episode recapping the entire

trip. It'll be like a two and a half hour podcast. Yes. In a few months, we're going to have, and you're going to see why it takes a few months, we're going to have a video series documenting the entire trip from the airport to the golf courses to the cabins, to the Dornet cottages, to the dinners, to Tom Pashley, everything is going to be well-documented. Dron footage, interviews with staffers, you're going to love it.

So all that shit's coming out. And, like, you know, some, like, haters of, like, our content or any content, like, that's out there with, like, people, like, us are golfing golfing, like, courses and stuff. They were, like, why would I want to watch these guys fucking play? Like, why would I want to sit down and watch that for 25 minutes, 30 minutes? Us playing is going to show you, like, what the average person gets to experience at, a world-class resort. And also, for reference, if you want to come here and play it yourself, like, it's not only just us playing.

Like, that's the one difference between this video series that we're doing now and the ones that we already put out. Like, we put out videos of us idiots playing so that you can watch us, like, deteriorate on golf courses, like quick videos or long 18-hole videos of just every shot. This is going to show you legitimately from the time you, like, click on Pinehurst's website, like, should I go with my buddy's trip and do a rider cop or, like, or whatever I just want to go play pinerers. This is going to show you, like, if you should, and if you do what the experience is

going to be like. And that's, like, awesome to me. I think that is, like, that is so much more, like, valuable to, like, the everyday golfer than, like, anything I think we will ever put out. Agreed. Couldn't agree more. That's why we're doing it. And you have to realize, too, like, 97% of golfers suck.

So, 97% of golfers go out there. If you go to a piner's number two, or you go to a tobacco road, or you go to a betpade black or pebble, like, most of the time, you play like shit. You are rattled and you're getting beat up. You're trying to stay mentally positive because it's a really cool experience, but you also care about your score. You know, all your friends are going to ask you forever, like what you shoot. You're starting to encroach on like an embarrassing number.

How can I salvage this? That is like what the average person experiences and that is what we are delivering to you. So we're working on all that. It's been nonstop. Yes, it sounds like champagne problems. It probably is. We're sitting by a fire outside of Donald Ross's house talking on a podcast that we get paid to do about golf.

Get that. Get excited. All that stuff's coming. Hope you enjoyed this show. Tuesday and Thursday next week. We're going to hit you with Pinehurst stuff, and the videos will be coming out in the future. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard. Hit it hard.