Fore Play - Prestwick, LIV & Such

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

Prestwick hosted the original Open Championship in 1860. Now it has hosted the boys. We break down our entire Scottish experience thus far, the latest with LIV, and delve deep into “the bottom falling out.”You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. You pull the fucking shorts down. Rip them down. Jesus. Stay in a, you know, a kind of a wall squat type posture. Yeah. And just release shit.

I mean, that'd be a compliment if it was that. Four players, right, Barstool Sports. We are in Scotland. It's been two days, I think. We're all kind of messed up from sleep. going to get a great sleep last night. I don't know what's really did. All kind of slept like shit.

But press work was our first experience, uh, especially for you two for Frankie and Trent playing any Scottish golf. Um, so we got a lot to talk about on that front. But yeah, we're kind of in, um,

I think we're in a better state than we were the other day. We did the podcast. Trotty carried us. I'm in a worst state that I was yesterday. For sure. I am not like, but I'm talking Monday when we did the podcast. Right.

Last time the folks that are listening heard from us. We were in a loopy, weird state after traveling all day. Yes. You got to be a better place than you were then. Yes. Slightly. I feel pretty tired right now. Yeah, I, um, yeah, getting 10 hours the night before last was great. Um, I think I ended up getting around 7 last night, but it was a bumpy seven. Yeah, because you attempted what, another 10 or 11? Well, I went to bed at like 10, 30, 11 and I fell asleep pretty much instantly, but then I woke up at 3 and I was just ready to go. Right.

And I was like, no, no, no, we got to sleep a few more. And my body really fought it. We fought for two and a half hours. And then I finally just went to sleep and slept until right before we did the podcast. So I got a few hours in, but it wasn't smooth. The 10 hours, I was barely alive. I barely had a heartbeat. Yeah.

And last night, I was just like, ah, I can barely sleep. Yeah, same way. That's the difference. Right. Like, it was a good 10 hours versus like a bumpy seven. That's the difference. 100%. I feel okay, but not.

I feel better than I did when we first recorded the podcast. I don't feel as good as yesterday, but I feel fine. How are you doing, Frank? It's an early wake up. It's an 8.30 podcast here. It's just early. Yeah, it's 2.30 back home. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel okay. I feel a little tired. I don't think I'm ever going to get rid of that. The whole trip. It's just going to be one of those trips. You think you're going to be tired of the whole trip? Yeah, I don't think I'm going to make it up. But I think once we're out there, you feel pretty good.

Like, obviously, we played our first true round. of Scottish golf yesterday. We went to Presswick and halfway through that day I was like, I just feel like a human being. I'm just out of here golfing and I feel really good. Didn't think about any of the travel.

None of that affected me out there. It's just like in the mornings and at night I think I'm going to be pretty loopy and like out of it. I think that's right. I don't know what it is. It wasn't that much of a travel day. I mean, it was crazy travel.

They were up for like 34 hours or whatever it was. But like you're not going that far distance wise where you would think they would fuck you up for a week, but I just think it's going to fuck me up for a week. could it was just two days that's the problem yeah traveling was two days yeah we left midday Sunday and all day Sunday is pretty much gone traveling all day Monday's gone traveling and we were here by midday like Monday and then you're trying to get through

that and stay awake so that you can like sleep so that's all Sunday and Monday they're basically gone in your mind traveling you're trying to sleep you're in a weird spot it's just been weird yeah it's trying to get used to it yeah it's right to you're trying to get used to it We do a whiskey tasting tonight. Hopefully that will just put us all to sleep at like 9 o'clock. Just crush us. Yeah. Whiskey tastings are like,

how much whiskey can you truly taste? Has anybody done a whiskey tasting before? No, I mean, I'll be honest. I'm not the biggest whiskey fan, so we'll see how that goes. I mean, I'm not going to be able to tell the difference between one drink and another,

but me and Jake passed at a rum tasting one time. Is it just, you're drinking whiskey flights? Is that what you're doing? Yeah, I mean, like, how many shooters are whiskey can you take before?

It's like, well, he's asleep. Well, I'm going to puke. I puke with, shots now it's like a new thing i left my own engagement part i was the first person i'll leave my own engaged part because i puked yeah i'll say it's a lot i'm like just mostly a beer drinker i'm gonna

truly drink i puke now and i don't you know i don't love the hard stuff or i try to stay away from as much as i can and so now that's just the we're going to a thing where that's exclusively what we're having you're gonna do it it's just like hold it and you're not you gotta you gotta swash it around like a wine i'm gonna puke i think that's the toughest thing to do with whiskey i think you just got to get it down But it's like you can't rip shooters or else you just get four of them. This has always been my argument about whiskey is that people only enjoy it because it's a cultural thing. Because it's like a man thing. Like let's drink whiskey.

And when it tastes like jet fuel. And the only reason you drink small, small, small amounts of it is because it's horrendous. Not a great lead up to a whiskey tasting, I will say. No. For the boys. But I don't disagree. I think it's good with a cigar or something like that. Or like it is some sort of like.

That's, that's okay. I do. You just said you can't keep it in your mouth Otherwise you want to vomit No no no I just said you can't I mean you're just gonna get blacked out if you have 15 of them So it's like it's a whiskey taste and you can't taste that many It's gonna be interesting

There's definitely people who don't like whiskey It's like it's yeah It's huge it's a big drink It's big people can yeah People want to be a certain type of person Billy told me that I don't think an old ass man sitting in this fucking little rocky He can't taste anything care he can barely see Billy was saying the guy behind us yesterday

was like a family of like was it Bullmore whiskey Is that right? I think so Yeah huge whiskey family I guess was playing right behind us So we're in the whiskey culture Very much so Tolomore

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Yeah, but they. It helps them. I know. They get all self-fulfilling sort of. It is self-fulfilling, but they also can make money off of it. Maybe they're moving in that direction. I think that 500 burr is starting to collect some PGA and the USGA is going to catch one of this and we're going to be paying out of pocket. We're going to pay it.

It's like people just aren't going to go and they're going to be like we have to covers the U.S. Open. We have to. You know what I mean? It's crazy. We have to. Like our jobs mean like if we don't write an article about this thing and like interview people, we're fucked. It's like whatever it is. We have to just go.

USGA needs to start charging. No. No, we don't we don't advocate for that. The majors they can. could John Deere that just can't. No. Nobody's going. It's actually the opposite.

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No sign of them. No, I mean, they've just kind of given us the same update. I've been DMing with. Well, that's not true. They were like, we've got them, and then they gave a call. They're like, we don't have them yesterday. They keep doing that. No, it's been the same update.

Oh, okay. Same update because you get a text message. Yeah. It's been like it's on this flight. Great. And then you get the next update like four hours later. It's like it's on this flight. I was like, well, how could it be on both flights?

That just means they just keep telling me that it's on a flight that it wasn't on. So we sent this driver to the airport at Glasgow like five different times. I mean, every time he goes to pick up somebody else, we ask him to check and he checks that he can't find it. And then they tell us it's there, but he says it's not there. So anyways, we're two days in. I have no bag, so O for two. And I will say somebody tweeted at me yesterday, just a business insider article. That just had like thousands of travelers in shock as luggage is lost at Heathrow,

Luggage Mountain, they call it. Oh, War. Which my stuff is at Heathrow. It's on the mountain. Luggage mountain. It's a great image in my house. A mountain of luggage.

Just bags everywhere. They painted that nicely. We all know what that means. It's just a gigantic room of lost luggage. Just the conveyor belt that's just emptying bags in a room that nobody's addressing. at all. They're like, oh, that Mr. Flight, send it on Converary Belt 12 that just goes into just this gymnasium. It actually reminds me of this, there's a dump or there used to be, they moved it now, just outside, just outside of Cedar Rapids, called Mount Trashmore. And it was just

you could, there was so much trash on the outside where people would go dump it that you could look in the distance and you could see it. And it was Mount Trashmore. And I'm picturing that at the Heathrow Airport with the luggage. People just go in this room and it's just a huge mountain of luggage. And just thinking about hopeless you are. your luggage is in that mountain. Right. I've been there. You've been there with United. Yep. And I've been, people have not been helping via Twitter. They've just been tweeting at me like, hey, Riggs, you better go buy everything you need because my stuff was lost like May 13th and I haven't seen it yet. I'm like, I get and I've seen dozens of those two. There's like missing persons

posters all over, but it's like it's luggage just on the side. Like this was my, this was my beloved piece of luggage and I lost it. And they were saying the caddy's saying the same thing in press me. Yeah. Like, oh, it's been awful this year. Everyone's. every group that comes in they get somebody doesn't get their bags the whole trip Mike great it does kind of feel like overall plane travel is on the way out oh yeah you have just out people now

teleportation teleportation or take a boat or there's going to be like individual private companies that only fly people travel plane travel flying just seems to be going the wrong way it's cancels delays all these things lost luggage and I think people are just given up in terms of lines.

I just have an update. Okay. Wow. From Ryan Lodder at Taylor May Golf. Okay. Driver has your clubs with four exclamation points. Wow. Whoa.

That's big. That's an insane turnaround because when it went to United, I would say, I think my turnaround, we came back from Australia. Frankie touched my bag in Newark Airport. It's huge. So I decided not to grab it. And then I think my bags were gone for three months in the Houston, I don't know, Houston Garbage Land of bags.

So that's an incredible turnaround. I'll say I was DMing with British Airways, which I think made a huge difference. Yeah. I mean, can't hurt. Because you're just lost in this fucking circle. It's just like we're talking about with the Delta.

And it's like the problem is so big that nobody knows how to solve an answer unless you get to somebody that's like impactful. Yes. Right. Unless you get a boss inside that's like, we need to find this bag. Then it's you get nowhere because they're like, oh, that's in Trash Mountain.

I don't even know how to solve that problem. It's so big. No, we're just going to keep putting trash in there. Yeah. And we were doing this. Exactly. We were doing this yesterday. We were all trying to help.

Taylor May guys have been amazing and trying to help and talking to the driver. And we're trying to like make sure we film stuff and not miss stuff. But it's like, should I go to the airport? And they've been amazing. And then they were talking about like, we're just going to maybe we'll try to DM it. And I was like, I'm just going to, I'm going to tweet out because at some level, if it's like, what's the point you have it clout if you can't use clout? I suppose. So if they're going to see it, it's like that can't hurt.

Yeah, you got burn it on luggage. But sometimes you got to. do it true but it's like you want it you need it it's like if i got if there's a certain number of followers it's going to make them be like oh we got to escalate this up from go fuck yourself to like somebody that can actually help it's like maybe maybe it's more but it's better than what you have before and see it's we add them and then they DM you and then all of a sudden you get results so it's worth it i think it's worth to try sometimes i mean you got clubs now tailorman employee mike esse who's been our guy who's one of our great great contacts there and he's on this

trip of this and he's been working to get your luggage as soon as you got that alert we heard some rustling around he's not staying in this lodge is he no so he's he somehow he looked like he had just woken up and he came storming through that door and was like they got his clubs yeah we got the alert and he was just like he got out of here he's like just woke up that's become his job you just gave him that job too no they just have been well for him taylor made set this whole thing up yeah for anyone who's listening who doesn't like everything like with the whole itinerary all all the resorts or all the stops all the everything and so they've been hard on the case and they

are the ones that have the driver and the driver access got it um and they've basically been like how you know we're going to do this yeah like give us the information because they have all the contact with the folks here too at dundado donald don't deals with this shit all the time so they're their guys were like we have a connected british airways gotcha they were to the first inside scoop totally so s he was like give me all the baggage information i'll talk to them those guys actually have a real person instead of just fucking hitting refresh on this stupid website that they give you. I've seen it

also. Well there was one mom yesterday where Essie was on the phone with British Airways and just hitting one and saying baggage and he looked like he was going to probably jump into the ocean being like I don't know why I'm doing this. Like when you lose your bags that's the worst part of losing your bags

is getting him and Essie for 24 hours had to deal with losing someone's bags. So like shout out to him for having to deal with that. There's like no reason why he's He had to sit there while instead of he worked all day and then couldn't even chip. Yeah, but I would say like if it's like then I would have to like miss the round of golf to try to get it where I'd be. No, I don't know. But afterwards, when he was just out here, he was just, he looked, he looked like he was on his last night.

Under his brother's. And that's the worst part. I'm doing. Yeah, like, work for Taylor, man. It's just like, I was like, I don't know. Like it's just like, it's a bad day because that's the worst part. Oh yeah. Absolute worst part.

No doubt. Like when we were in fucking bandin, the guy just told me I'm not coming until tomorrow. And I had to deal with that. We're like me. I was like, I talked to him. Physically, I was like, why? Why won't you come today? It's just like, I'm in a different state.

You know what? Not coming up that way. And it's also not part of the culture to hustle. So why don't you just chill out? I was like, are you coming today? He goes, no. And we knew where they were. They were in his car.

They were, yeah. He goes, I'm just not coming today. Right. He's like, I come up there twice a day. I already hit my quota. I'm going home. He actually in the beginning goes, I don't know how to break this to you,

but I'm not coming. Dude, that's my favorite message of all time. That was the clear message that he's got the bags. But those bags are going back to his home. He was a deep breath in the beginning. He's like, so he can just go chill and have dinner that night and be done with it. That's one of the all-time customer service messages.

And his, like, distance was not that far. No. He was like, an hour and a half. So he's like, I can't make it up there tonight. I was just like, first of all, it's 11 o'clock in the morning. You have all day? That was his job, which is unfortunate.

But apparently it wasn't his job. Like, he, like, does the club of favor and goes picks him up. I don't fucking know. whatever it's fucking crazy out here with these golf bags they gotta just be better speaking of team tailor made um i don't know how much we want to get into the round yesterday at press quick i'm sure we're going to get into it but i did my tailor made plus app well mike spent all day doing the my tailor made plus app um tracked every single one of my shots and i have all these stats that are quite interesting and funny what's my favorite status how many fairways you hit

yesterday i hit two oh two i thought it was one yeah But dude, you want to see. So the MyTaylor-Mate Plus app is an all-encompassing everything in one app. You can get fitted. You can get a lesson. You can track your stats. You can track your actual round, shot by shot. Yeah, that was the big thing Trotty was saying.

You can get fitted or like schedule or do it within the app. Yeah. So you play around on the MyTaylor-Mate Plus app. You upload it to the app and you upload some swings. So usually you need like someone to help you like with some things. Like someone can take a video of one of your swings. You upload it all. And then a pro will.

watch it, give you notes, and then you'll go out and take a lesson based off of those notes. You'll video that as well. So it's really interactive. It really helps your game. So I have all that stuff from our first round at Presswick. And I mean, you want to talk about a guy that just doesn't really know where it's going? These are my driving stats. This is just all off the T.

So I use a couple of irons as well. Missed left, 43.8%. Missed right, 43.8%. fairways hit 13.3%. So I'm just left. I'm right and I'm very rarely down the middle. And then with my driver specifically, 50% missed right, 41% missed left and 8%

hitting the fairway. So it's just driving distance yesterday was 254 yards. But that was with, I think I hit an 8 yard 7 iron off the second tee. Topped it. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I didn't hit it, you know,

in any hazards. I wasn't out of bounds ever. So there was a lot of just shots in the rough. And then, you know, there's, yeah, 13% fairways hit, 28% greens and regulation hit and 33 putts yesterday. And this was all for an 88. It's cool. So I mean, there's a lot of stats in there.

I hit every single club in my bag. Wow. Oh, wow. Yep. That kind of shows you the power. Driver, three iron, four iron. Yeah, we get it. Yep.

Everything. I'm saying, even like the three iron. Right. The hybrid. Right. Didn't have a three wood. So yeah. You don't have a three wood?

I can't hit that one when I put the three hybrid. Right. The three iron in. Yeah. It makes sense. I've got too many clubs in my bag this week. Yeah. He,

Mike Essie came out to me. He goes, we're going to drag you off the ground. Well, Essie came out to me and he goes, you got 15 clubs in your bag under his breath. I'm like, first of all,

I don't know why you're whispering that. And second of all, I'm just not, I was like, you can take the three one, just throw it in whatever, see that is right there because I'm not hitting it right here.

If there's never going to be a moment in Scotland where I hit a three wood. No. Because I'm always hitting ripping driver into the wind or if it's downwind and I can't hit driver, I'm hitting an iron. Like there's never a moment where there's like that like yesterday the guy was like and we'll get into the whole round. We have to because that place is unbelievable. But at one point he's like, oh, it's like a 220 shot or 240 shot and handing me a three wood. And I was like, well, what's like the least amount I can do? He's like, oh, you can hit like 150.

So I just hit like a fucking five iron and we were fine. I'm never hitting a three wood out here. That's a promise to you. Okay. Presswick is great. Yeah. And it's cool because like Presswick and I feel like in Scotland, it's just, I was talking about this with my Caddy Billy.

It's not like in the States where a 60-yard shot is just a 60-yard shot. You know, you just throw it up high, just lands. Right. And close. Every green is potentially a different 60-yard shot based on the setup of the green, how it's angle that you want to play something different into it. I would say to a 60-yard shot at Presswick yesterday. If it was downwind.

it was almost like you were you were a heavy favorite to miss the green oh yeah yeah for sure like what were you gonna do it's like especially if there was a hill in front or like a slope in front it was just like so you're thinking like even we were trying to be smart and like fly it barely onto the green and it would hit and just rock it into the air and not even wasn't even close to staying on like it would go racing by the pin and you're like I mean that was a pretty good shot so then you just yeah you're just kind of fucked I hit one of the best eight irons of my life on 18 not to give too much away.

And I just hit it so great, it landed pin high, and it rolled out of bounds off the back of the green. Gives a little away? That was devastating. It gives a little away, but I just want people to know that. That'll be it'll come out in a few months. Even when I hit a great shot, which I don't hit too many of them, although I played okay out there yesterday.

Caught it pure. You flushed. Caught it great, and it went too far, and right over the back of the green, 18 at Presswick is out of bounds. There's flowers over there. That's where I found my ball. Think about Preswick, to go back to the beginning. But that was so great about it,

and everybody should do it if they can when they come. is they make you so golf horny at the beginning. Because they take you through the history. The clubhouse is amazing. They show you the clarechug. They show you the belt that was given out before the clarechug was around. And it's just dripping with history. We talked a little bit about it when we were grabbing a flat white, the three of us up top.

They got binoculars. Nice item of the flat white. Yeah, I might try to get one at some point today. I won't touch that one. Yeah, we'll get to you in a second. You can't be. Yeah, you got to do a different routine. But I love, I love old stuff.

I don't like news still. Yeah, start with the drive. I mean, we leave Dun Donald at 10.30 or whatever it was, 10 o'clock. Yep. And then we make this, what was it, a 20-minute drive over to Presswick. And you finally got to see the town. Is it the town of Presswick? What is the town?

Irishire. Irishire? No, I think we go away from that. I think it was Presswick. I think we were in Westwick. So whatever town that is, you're driving through and you're immediately, now you're, for me, you're in Europe and you're in the UK. You're doing the red lines.

You're doing the thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. You see the old cobblestone. buildings the town literally has like the dentist the lawyer the funeral home hotel the hotel it just says hotel on it meat shop meat shop yeah but yeah it was like one was just called the butcher and it's just like are you kidding me there's a place called the butcher it's nuts like that's the guy in town that's the butcher right there that's him he's standing outside he's drinking a coffee he's covered

um he's covered in fucking blood and meat yeah that the town drive-thru was really eye-opening and then you pull into what's more of the town and then there's a golf course in the middle of of it. Like the buildings are right up against the 18th Green. They're right there. Everything, you know, people are walking their dog through the golf course. Everything about it felt like oh shit, this is a fucking town and there's a golf course in it.

Which is everything you wanted it to be. Your first real, true Scotland experience, Preswick had to be like a top choice. Presswick was Preswick blew me away. Thought the history of it was, you know, it's, so anybody who doesn't know,

it's 1860, the first Open Championship ever was at Presswick First major championship of all time This year is the 150th anniversary So they're gonna be doing a lot of stuff about the origins And the reason it's 150th because there's for a lot of reasons It's been different times where there just wasn't open championship world wars I think young Tom Morris won the open three years in a row and the rule was that

We're gonna give away a championship belt every year But if somebody wins it three years in a row they just keep it forever so they didn't have a prize. They just stopped having the tournament. So it took him a few years. He's the guy. We got to get a new pride. COVID a couple years ago, obviously.

They didn't have an open championship. So anyways, 150th. And when you go in, they do such a good job of embracing that history without it being gaudy or over the top. It's like, you don't even really notice as you walk up to the clubhouse. The clubhouse is really cool. It's old school looking. But it doesn't like say anything in giant, you know, it's just sort of there. You walk in.

It's got like a concierge almost. right there when you're going who's got like a jacket and tie on and then you just start to kind of piece it together all the history there's some really cool rooms with photos there's only been what is it seven head pros in history from 1860

1851 whatever at Presswick till now and David our guy was walking us around telling us about a lot of the history he's a young pro like hearing that number 19 years in yeah right hearing that number you'd be like that guy's old as dirt

like he's one of seven since 18 18 Well, not really. I mean, the other guy could have just been... But you would think, like, pros at golf clubs would last like 10, 12 years and, like, there'd be fucking 30 of them by now. The fact that there's only seven that each one has lasted, I mean, what's the average... What's the average lifespan of work as a pro at Preswick then? Four years. So the club started, what, in 1851? Yeah.

It's a hundred and... Uh-oh. One years? 171 divided by seven. Yep. Whatever that is. 24. It's pretty long.

It's a pretty... Damn right, it is. Average, too. It's a pretty high average for seven guys to be working at one place. All of them. You know what I mean? I think that speaks to the history too and why people want to be there. Yeah.

Obviously, a place treats people well. Like, never once was there like a guy was there for like six years and they got, I mean, 20, how many? There was no, um, who is that Pope? Benedict. Oh. Yeah, Benedict. Couldn't handle it? Was it Pope Benedict?

There was a Pope who was there for like a cup of coffee. Yeah, I think it was Benedict. Because now it's Francis. Yeah. Do you guys remember that Pope? Yeah, he had the weird fucking butthole eyes. Yeah, he was like... Was he the one that the two popes was based off of? Is that right?

Yeah. Oh, I think you're right. On HBO. Yeah. I didn't end up watching that. It was really good. It was great. But yeah, there was no Pope Benedict. Not to take ricochet shots of him, but he shouldn't have a great run.

He's probably got a lot of ricochet shots. Right. Because when you're a Pope, it's like, you're the Pope. Right. Yeah. You have it for a lot. He got kind of run out of there, too. I think he deserves a lot of ricochet shots.

I believe he has a. he has this sketchy past something to do with Germany and just the way he handled a lot of the weird things that happened I don't remember all the details

I don't want to get You gotta watch it to popes You start going after popes You don't know what's gonna happen Right That's the deal you off the planet We could take them I think a lot of people

After it more than we're going out That's true Big time The cool pope now Everybody seems to be good with He's a nice guy The cool pope mobile He's got Twitter account

Yeah, he does. He does. He does. Ways in on stuff. I think at one point he also said all dogs go to heaven and people were like, we like that guy.

Yeah. Didn't he like live feed the World Cup one time? Dude, Pope is interesting shit. Like, doesn't matter what your religion is. It's the fact that there's like

the Pope is pretty interesting. The Vatican, it's pretty nuts. It is nuts. When we go to, I'm definitely going to go there. Vatican, we got to go to the Vatican.

Definitely going to the Vatican. St. Petersburg. It's a crazy. You want to talk about history. It's just, a crazy place. You know what I mean? It's a town. This history is insane. I was saying to someone yesterday that I'm not a big fan of golf course architecture when it, oh, maybe it was bug for the

for the video that we're doing. I was like in the States, which is what I've been saying a lot here because a lot of people say in the States. In the States, I'm not a huge golf architecture nerd when it comes to like, I don't, if I play a golf course and they're like, the only reason this is cool is because it was built in fuck in 1905 and then this guy made it. I'm like, all right, I'd rather just the views. We've gotten to that debate. But here, the fact that this is like, this is where all the templates come from.

This is where golf was made. Everything else is just a fucking copycat. Like, this is it. This is where it was decided. I mean, the open championship, the first one was decided in a bar that we drove by,

the Red Lion. Yep. Shout to Cortland University that has a red lion there too. So does Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Fucking wild. It was just the most common Barney involved.

I didn't realize that. Because I love the Red Lion back home where I'm from. And I was like, this is a special place They had, isn't there a red lion in Manhattan?

Yeah, there is. They play live music at the red line. That was the first spot to go to like 80s night, didn't we? Yeah,

that was the first bar I ever went to when I moved to New York. Right across some LPR. That's right. They fucking just sat in this bar was a seven guys, eight guys.

And they're like, we're just gonna, I think someone died. Yeah, Alan Robinson died. He was the best golfing died. He was considered the best golfer in the world and that was just conceded

so nobody even wanted to, like, have a contest for us. What was his name? Alan Robertson. Alan Robertson. Alan Robertson, best golfer on the planet. Yep. Dies suddenly.

They all have a meeting saying, well, now who's the best golf? Now we're going to have the old. They have a meeting at the Red Lion. And I believe Old Tom Morris was Alan Robertson's protege. He was. And then they ended up having a massive split based on the golf ball. And Alan Robertson, like, created a new golf ball and like, or endorsed somebody's new golf ball.

And old time Morris was making the old school golf ball and was like, fuck you. And then Alan Robertson dies. And like you're saying, then they all got together and we're like, well, I guess we have to figure out who's the best golfer in the world. And then old time. Morris was a heavy favorite and he loses the first one. He blew it. He blew it.

He blew it just like Willie Clark or something. A forgotten name. Which Presswick's probably still rattled them out there. Like we really want Old Tom Morris to have won that first. 12 holes. Yeah. 12 holes. Insane routing the way that we and at Presby yesterday there were a couple holes that were left as is.

Right? Like our 17th hole was left as is. Parts of it. 17th is 100%. And two. And then. The part three they were saying. Oh, is that, is that the same?

I didn't know. My catty said two and 17 was essentially. There's some original greens that are combined with other. 16 green is original green, but the one T-box was different. Yeah. And so actually in late October, I think October 20th through the 28th, they're going back to the old 12-hole routing for those dates. Yeah.

Which is pretty epic. So you saw some white circles around. Didn't they say the caddies that week are going to be wearing like hard hats and fucking That's what they're going to need for routing and like big, yeah. And like illuminated jackets. Yeah. The routing is interesting out there. It's confusing now.

It's confusing now. And it's so much different than the States. Like I forget which hole it was where you finish up on the green and then you walk to the T-box to the next hole. And you're hitting right over the green. Yeah. So everything is on top of each other. And it's, I really like it. And to Frankie's point earlier, like, I love the simplicity of all of it.

Like we're saying eight guys met at a bar because we just got to figure out who the best golfer is. Yeah. That is so cool to me. and the routing is so simple but awesome, even still. Like if they were saying, if you play Presswick for the first time without a caddy, you will get lost. Yeah.

You will not be able to figure out where the holes go. So you have to play with the caddy the first time. I got a question for you. Sure. You were glowing after yesterday's round. Yeah. Was that your favorite golf course you've ever played? It's definitely up there.

I don't know about favorite, but man, it's pretty close. And like I said, they get you real horny up top where you want to play. You go, you see you go in these different rooms with all these pictures and

you know they're not level Frankie was talking about that you want to go in there with a level and level them all off I don't think I have diagnosed OCD but it's definitely in there where there's something in there that I looked at a couple of the frames I'm like they just got to fix these frames it is funny the things that you and I are like we go different ways

on like I love that they just it looks like they just went there and threw frames on the wall and I love that I love the just messiness of it imperfect imperfect is great so But yeah, it's got to be up there in my top three. Speaking of horny there, Trent, Roman. We got to talk about Roman real quick.

I need Roman if I play Presswick again. Oh, well, yeah, maybe last longer. You'd be lasting forever with Roman out there. You would like to last longer. That's generally a goal when you're having sexual intercourse. Summer nights, a good TV show, an awesome concert, and perhaps playing Presswick, something you'd like to last longer. Yeah.

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beginning of the winter out here, because they used all the sheep out here is the only way they can manicure the courses. And the summer, the courses would just get overgrown. So they literally just couldn't play golf in the summer. Yeah, David was saying that they would play like old Tom Morse would be in a heavy lamb jacket. That's by far the most interesting part of the whole day

when he said that. That's crazy. Yeah. We're talking about one of these holes that was like, how long was that part five? 575 yard part five. Is that how far it was when they played it? Yes. Okay.

That was the first hole. With 570 or five, either way. So 570 something yards. They played this in fucking 1860. They're using what we saw that the hickory clubs are called a spoon and whatever the house. All these names of these golf clubs were insane. Also, there were a couple lefty clubs in there, which was stunning. It said 1860 player unknown.

And then they had a bunch of other clubs that were, um, golf clubs that were associated with certain players and they had it all in this office. It was amazing. Anyway, they're using these fucking wooden clubs, the worst golf balls of all time. And what,

when he said, you got to remember it's fucking freezing out here, rainy, cloudy, everything that he's wearing is wet and heavy. He's wearing wool, uh, uh,

uh, jacket. And then he made a, what did they made? There was an eagle from was it young Tom Morris who made an eagle on that hole. Made a three. Before there was ever a bird. I think it was a par six at the time too.

It was a super eagle. Which is fucking insane wearing that clothing, piping the ball that far. I mean, we couldn't do that with the new technology we have today. It's insane. He said he hold it with like the spoon club from like 180, which is basically their three wood. He just smoked in and it went in. And they said, I think they said nobody ever made a four there ever, but he made a three. Yeah.

It's just crazy like how far they were hitting the golf ball with just what they had. It's really eye-opening. Straight. I mean, we got to look like ball from our friends and tellerman. What was Old Tom Morris's swing speed in that wool jacket? I bet his swing speed wasn't that bad, but I bet just like ball speeds way down. Way down. Because all the technology that goes with it.

But swing speed, I bet he could swing it pretty fast. It is funny too because we only think of Old Tom Morris is just an old geyser. Right. Well, he was. But like there was a time when he was brought like he was just a young person. He grew up. just like come out of the wound. That's what I mean.

He's not Benjamin Button. Some of those guys just existed the way they were, you know? Yeah. They said that about Jim Furick. Jim Furick was always just like, old. Oh, 46. Imagine young Jim Purick. I can't do it.

The other thing I think about all the time when I see all these old pictures and I look at all these like they had a group photo outside the clubhouse from like 1868 or whatever and you're just looking at all these guys. I try and picture myself sitting in one of the seats and looking around like, what is that guy with that mustache and that crazy? They were just men back then. Like those guys were probably 12 and they looked like fucking 80 years old. So I try and picture that.

And then also I try and picture the smell. And it probably smells fucking horrific. But if, but if everybody smells, nobody smells. Yeah. Like did you think they didn't notice like how bad they actually smell? No,

because maybe old Tom Morris just smelled fucking awful. For sure, but they all smell horrible. That hair. He probably never took showers or bath. Like you're used to people smelling like, you don't even get the showers back then. They probably barely did it.

You're probably taking a path once or twice a week if you're wealthy. Yeah. Okay. A lot of perfume. Yeah, dude. Yeah, Musk. I would have thrived. There's a commercial.

I think it's like an American Express commercial or something recently. And it was during Christmas and I think it was like the ghost of the Christmas past, whatever, that took this guy back to like 1700 America or whatever it was. and they like dropped him on the street and like he's there and all the horses are going by and then someone throws like a bucket of shit in front of him and he's just like oh my god

like this place fucking stinks and that's the first time it was like a couple months ago that I really thought about how the earth just stunk like shit up until like recent times like it's more it's modern for the earth to smell okay does that make any sense?

Yes. Like we just like dumped our shit in the street like plumbing whenever plumbing started, that's when the smells start to become better. Yeah. Earth smelled horrific with humans on it for a long time. I think I could be wrong about this, but I think there's something, there's

something scientific about a men's body odor that like attracts mates. Like the smell primal, I'm at. Primal, yeah, that's the word. Right. Yeah, definitely. Because I mean, it's all you had for thousands and thousands of years. That was the difference. Right. It wasn't some fancy car

or some nice dinner. And then some signs. like engineered what would be attractive to like the different gender and they just made like perfume and cologne you know what I mean like that definitely hits a part of your brain we're like oh that's attractive it is funny to figure that out yeah it is funny to think that the only thing that's changed is the accessibility of it but at the end of the day we're just putting on odor under our arms just so it doesn't smell and we've just accepted that that smells good right like their brains probably accepted that that was the smell that's okay. I don't even think they thought about it. Maybe that smelled good to them. Right. Does that make any sense? I don't think it's,

I don't, maybe it didn't go one way or the other. I think it was just like, this is what everybody's like right now. Maybe someone in the 1600s like a ax body spray now is like, oh, that's insane. How do you smell that all day?

They'd be like, that's alien to me. Right. It just smells horrible to them. Right. Meanwhile, like they loved the smell of like poo poo on their fucking chest. I think,

well, I think it was. more B-O, but maybe, I think shit's probably always smelled like shit. Then it never would have, deodorant never would have been invented. You know what I mean? So there's definitely a little bit of like, yeah, they had something in the back of their mind that was like, this isn't great. Yeah, true.

You know, we'd love to approve this. And so that's why somebody was like, let's just throw some like weird, I don't know, what is deodorant? It's just like weird paint you put under your armpits. It's so weird. Well, I fucking, there was a, I used to do those facts all the time. And there was that one where it was like, why do we have bouquets? and it was because it would mask the bride's smell.

She would hold fucking flowers as she walked down the aisle. And then when she went up to go get married, like the guy would smell like beautiful flowers instead of her disgusting like coochy and under arms. Whoa. Speaking of all this, the shit talk is, it segues perfectly to you yesterday.

Oh, does it? Yeah, I'll let you tell the story because you had a... It went back in time. Yeah, right, right, which is what I said to somebody. That's insane. I'll let you tell a story, but somebody was like, man, that's pretty disgusting out here.

I was like, it can't be the first time someone's taking a shit on the ground of Presswick. Yep. The bottom fell out. I lost my way. Start from the beginning and tell your story. So we have a really nice morning, as everybody's alluding to. A little bit of food, great lunch.

Amazing lunch. Yeah. Whoever said the food out here sucks, I think was wrong. The local food might suck. Like the things that they're known for. What is it? Haddock. We haven't even tried.

Haddick. And Haddock. We haven't tried it yet, so I can't say that it sucks. we've heard bad things that like it's like an acquired taste but they have regular food here i got tuna sandwich yesterday and it was fucking phenomenal yeah i had a turkey bLT that was i had the tuna as well and uh we had fucking steaks and lampchops last night like this fucking place is sick and one of the people were with lauren who works with taylor made she got a lobster roll yeah i mean and there was a chili cheese steak that lobster roll looked amazing yeah that was their number one item i think there was a

philly cheese steak i think there was a philly cheese steak i know yeah let's come on A little too modernized. Yeah, let's not do that. Fucking Roan and Smitty have influenced the fucking the home golf. Right. Come on. Get the Philly. Just called a cheese stick.

And I wouldn't have even noticed. So we had all that. So we had all that. And a flat white. And a flat white, which is I think where everything went wrong. What's a flat white? Basically just a hot coffee with milk in it and it's all mixed together.

They frothed. Yeah, exactly. And you enjoyed that? You're a black coffee guy. I am, but I did enjoy the flat white. I had one first time ever. It was really nice. Like we just sat at that top table.

and it's just a beautiful view that overlooks one and kind of coming up to 18. Had binoculars up there. Yeah, it's just a great setting. And you get into kind of like, you're just like, man, I love the game of golf,

and this is going to be so cool to play at Presswick. So we're enjoying all that, a little cookie. I'm like, oh, man, this is just fantastic. And I go to the bathroom. I take a whiz.

Trent comes in after me, and I can clearly see him going to stall, you know, one of the stalls, he's going number two. safely and improperly the proper location. Producer Jake's just making something and he's rustling around with some sort of bad.

What are you making back there? What are you making? He's making some cereal. Can you give me a glass of water if you give a chance? Thank you. So anyways. It's an audio podcast. They probably can't hear that.

I know. I can't stop listening to it though. We got ears. Yeah, we can hear it. It's fucking rice Krispies going to do. There's a lot of stuff crumpling back there. Just for just one bowl and cereal. Yeah.

All right. So I'm sitting on the bowl. So you're sitting on the ball. And I make a joke to you. like, oh man, I should probably, you know, maybe, but I think I'll be fine. And I go, I hope the bottom doesn't fall out. Yep. And anyways, we get to the first tee.

I'm feeling fine. Make an insanely beautiful swing on first tee box. Just rip a horn down the guts and hit a wedge 20 feet for birdie. I'm like, we're going to have a round of golf today. And everybody's kind of putting around. I look at Trent and I go, the bottom might have just falling out. And that's where you lose basically. all your protection on what could potentially come next.

It wasn't like I sharded. Yeah. So it was just kind of like a fart, but with some like some wet air. You fart in the golf course a lot. Yeah, I mean, I'm a gassy guy. Like that's why I said back in the old times. I'd be, you know, women would flock to me based on my sense.

Ladies man. Yeah. You do a lot of public farting. Yeah. I think your golf course is a pretty safe place. It's stunning how much you publish. It is. And usually because I don't public fart ever.

I'm a disgusting person. I like to do things in the confines of my own home. I don't publicly fart. I'm a PF for I like I have buddies that fart and fucking bars. I'm like this is what the worst part of the world is like when you're in a bar and you smell that's how you pick up women back in the day we just have a smelly far I'm like who did that my buddy Robbie like that's me like why did you choose to do that you chose to do that didn't fall out of you you literally but if you keep in it hurts your stomach right

that's how with everyone in a society is doing we're all here's I got bad news for you everybody around you they're farted yeah but like everybody's Some people are doing it like out. You're sneaking a few out. Never. Never. Bro, I'm telling you, I have a fear of being caught doing it and I refuse to do it. I would tell you right now.

I'll tell you right now I've never farted in a bar. It's a shocking side story. I go to the bathroom and do it. I'll rip a fucking toot. I was seeing this girl. Farted in her room after a really nice dinner first time. She screamed at me. Screamed at me.

And that night, I left her apartment and we were done. Yeah. I couldn't believe that she screamed at me. A wild move to rip a fart in the first day. She was cleaning like, she was like finishing up upstairs or whatever. You're way too public of a farter. Her bathroom was downstairs. It'll clear out.

I went down there. She was irate. Eyes watering. Oh my God. So pissed off. And I go, you don't think then this is just never going to work. And I just left the room. We were done that night.

I know it's human nature. We all fart. We all have gas. We all smell. I'm just saying you're actively. Okay. I think the golf course is a safe place. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, that was fine. What I'm about, you're about to get to is fine. Like, oh, what you did, I think is just like nature. No, no, farting on the golf course. Yeah, but you're around guys. I don't want to hear you fucking farting all the time. You're around guys. That's what they do.

Dudes are being dutch. Yeah, it's like. Farting all over the place. And also, you play golf at a time. Usually we play in the morning where it's like, this is usually when I'm by myself. So it's like. Just too many far. And by the way, we got five dudes in this room right now.

Somebody's definitely farted already. No, I haven't. I haven't yet. No, I haven't. yeah there you go that's insane behavior because you're releasing a bad smell to everyone around you

why would you like choose to do that oh like I said before it hurts your stomach if you keep it air right yeah so anyways I look at Trent and I'm like I think the bottom and that's when I just had this kind of like wet fart air

wasn't like a shart and it definitely wasn't a shit but it was like I got it now and I got an uncomfortable issue that I'm gonna have to solve and then you're delightful segment I get the two T-box

and I am I'm on uncomfortable and I got to keep these things pretty close together these things meaning my cheeks and your asshole was loose it just I didn't know what couldn't happen on a on a swing when you stepped up to the tea were you at all worried that you had already left a mark back there and when you were going to hit the tea shop we're all going to be like this guy shit his pants I wasn't but I knew that my I needed a couple bananas inside my system you know what I needed to drive to some things up in the lava was bubbling yeah exactly and so I shanked the ball right on two

I eventually made maybe a triple I think and then we get to third T and I cold top a hybrid and then I hit a healy kind of overcompensation blade up to the right and then I just looked at the group and I go Billy is there any bathroom in the proximity out here

because when you're out here I mean it is you go out and you don't come back to the end of the end of the end of that there's no there's no help out there I swear to God there's the first round of golf I've ever played without taking a sip of water. We walked 15,000 steps. Right. They're just like, once you're out there, you're out there, pal.

So he looked at me and said there's a Port-a-John kind of after maybe the sixth hole. And I said there's just no way that I can play, you know, three more holes like this, the way that I'm feeling. So I just cut tail. You guys went down the fairway. I turned around, found some weeds. Went to the marsh. High, high, you know, exactly. There was a little stream near me.

not knowing what's in there by the way we're gonna need some answers on like the wildlife out here are there like snakes does wildlife yeah I don't know those answers either because I was wondering when you when you're walking around the grass is just high enough that it'd be perfect for snakes

perfect I agree so you go in there I go trample the fuck you pull the fuck you pull the fucking shorts out down rip them down Jesus stay in a you know a kind of a a wall squat type posture yeah and just release shit

I mean that'd be a compliment if it was that. It was more on the water side. Yeah, it was oatmeal. It wasn't, it wasn't a consistent. Ugh.

And yeah, I'm not a dairy guy. I think that flat white just took what is in my stomach and just boiled it up, turned it into water. And I got that out. And then after I was like,

I went into the weeds because I was basically, I was just ripping straw and wiping with that. That's the worst part. Wiping, oh, and like, just take your, my butt's still itchy.

Take your underwear off and use that. So that's what Trotty said, but I didn't have that answer in my head. I should have. The fact that you wiped your ass with fucking grass is insane. I mean, I was asking, I was asking yesterday. I was like,

this is going to be awkward, but I'm going to go shit right now. I got to shit. Okay. I'll do a lot of shit talk. You guys got to do true bill. Yeah, no,

and then talk about wherever you're talking about that. I'll be right back. Sure. I'm going to wipe with toilet paper. Yeah, no, you're in a bunch. That's where you should be.

Yeah. So then I was just ripping that straw. I mean, I did spend 30 days out in the wilderness at one point in my life. So there's a little, not saying I'm a 30 days straight. Too many. So I do have some sort of history of like, okay, I can get myself through this. I can't believe you're able to, I struggle with like one plight toilet paper.

I can't believe you were able to like consume anything on that, on that straw, on that grass. Yeah. I don't know how you got any product on there. There was product. That's crazy to me. Yeah. it's like individual pieces of fucking grass i don't know where is it picking up it's like you got a leaf no no no no it was a little leafy okay so there's a little leafy flower okay i'm picturing you're

picking up little pieces of straw no no no and shoving them up your asshole it's not like little pieces i'm taking a bare claw handful of anything in that area ripping it and then you know doing what i got to do to clean up and from there on i mean i i like didn't play that bat i mean I was like five or six over in those two holes, and I didn't finish much more than that. Any irritation? For sure. Yeah.

Yeah, because now he's got grass on his ass. He's got everything in there. So then that was basically a hold me over until the sixth hole where there was the porter john there. And then I was able to, you know, really clean up with some toilet paper and, you know, really fix myself. And so from then on, I felt there was a little stream there that I could wash my hands. like that I just kind of dabbled in there and got to the billy and got the towel on. And then I was able to get real soap on my hands, though, after.

That is as natural and primals you're going to get, especially out here. At Preswick. At Preswick, I mean, you took a shit. You can't tell me that, you know. Took a shit on the grass and washed your hands in the creek. Like that's old and young Tom Morris didn't fancy themselves a nice dump. After.

100%. The second green, three T-box? How much, how much did you clean up your little area right there? None. That's a little. That's fucking. up because like, dude, I was in the middle of nowhere.

I trampled into an area that I would argue, nobody's touched that land. You better hope not. Nobody's touched that. You couldn't kick a little dirt over it or something? Dude, nobody has touched that land in... It's inconsiderate.

Someone's going to step in your shit. That's fertilizer. Yeah. I know. Like, you're giving life to land. It's probably rain last night. That's all gone. All right.

I would like for you to just cover it up next time. I will say if it was closer to a trail or anything, I would have done something. But then it's like, have some respect for others if you're just shitting on the trail. I mean, I was, you were in the drone and there's footage, you know, I felt pretty. I was. Well, dude, at one point, Jake was filming you from a long way. Right.

But then, like, I think Essie who was doing, is it Essie or essay? Essie. Okay, Essie. Mike Essie was like filming us all day on social, like, like on his phone. And at one point, he's like, oh, like, I kind of felt bad. So I just kept walking. No, this is the only thing we should be filming out here today. Did we fly the drone over him?

So I fucking, I looked at the drone, which is, this was some crazy. Bugs on top of me. What a ridiculous. I felt pretty exposed. That's awesome. Dude, it felt very like utopian and futuristic at one point where I looked at this drone that was flying the air and I saw that the camera was looking at me and I pointed to the, to the shitting area.

And all of a sudden, like the drone turns its head and just kind of looks over, which is which is literally Brendan like, you. using his now virtual eyes to see what I was pointing at. And then once he locked on it, it went 100 miles an hour. Boom. I felt like I was in a movie. Like, oh, those are the bad guys over there. And the drone was like, okay, and went to go get it.

I felt like I was the bad guy and the drone was coming out. You were looking up shit in your pants. We've had extensive conversations this trip about how we're going to get you and bug walkie talkies. So you know, so you can start like telling them where to go. I don't know how we can get walkie talkies out here. I don't know if Amazon comes up this high. There's got to be some walkie talkies.

on the grounds. Like the suit. You think Bud wants that? Yeah, I think he does. There's a lot of, you know, like the,

uh, the maintenance, the maintenance crew definitely has them. Yeah, true. Um, so maybe we can figure that out. But the only reason we want walking talk is just because we're filming such a

high level production of a video today. Yesterday's footage is absolutely insane. We have a new piece of technology now with this new drone that we've got that zooms in. And essentially we have a TV tower shot of all of our swings. Like there's, Zoom in's awesome. Dude, fucking bug is 400 yards away and zooming in like he's in a TV tower or a blimp.

And we're getting that shot where like from the T-box, you can see, from the green, you can see the like trajectory of the ball coming towards the camera in the air. It's fucking awesome. And it's not pixelated on the zoom. It's not pixelated. It's not pixel. It's 4K, 28 times zoom. It's amazing. So we've got that.

But he always stands a club, a hole ahead because he's the producer. He's trying to produce the whole entire. thing. He's trying to drone. He's trying to get all the shots. And he's trying to get the balls landing on the green. The only problem is when you're 350 yards away, if something happens like Lirk shits his pants and has to go into the woods, he's not like there to even see any of that happening. We can't even connect with him because he's using his phone to be the screen for the drone. So that's a little inside baseball right there.

We're trying to get some fucking way. Best content possible. We're trying to get away to contact him. The drone is a great piece of technology. You know what also is also a great piece of technology true bill true bill how many subscriptions do you have do you even know the number i'm i'm i don't know personally but my true bell app definitely knows it's probably like that was the most eye-opening thing that they do is yeah this is exactly what you pay for monthly money out the door crazy and you're like am i even using that app you know what else is pretty eye-opening is your monthly spend and and the difference from month to month for me like furnishing a house and all this stuff like those are outwires

Oh my gosh, man. Like this like we finally have like slowed down the purchasing and it was like you spent $19,700 this month on this card or whatever it is. And it's like that has been that's 4,000% less than last month. Like what did you do? Like how are you surviving? It's like well, no. We bought like the most useless stuff ever for the most money ever last month.

That's buying a house. Yeah. Couch ride? Yeah. Yeah. You know what the real you know what the real bitch is is, is these. places called home goods and home sense and hobby lobby home ripoff we'll get into it we'll get into it it's going to make me mad it's just you walk in there you spend all your money and you don't

even get anything yeah you want these you get trinkets you get a bunch of wicker baskets you get trinkets and now i live out there it's crazy town i live out there and i didn't buy a house but i am trying to furnish my place and make it look like some sort of adult lives there because every other apartment i've ever lived in a child lives there and that's just who i am but i go to these it's at home It's home goods. And you just wander these warehouses full of wicker baskets and pillows. And you spend $500 and you have nothing to show for it. It's all browns and whites and it's all chipping Joanna from the HGTV network.

Throw pillows should be the last thing anybody ever buys. I got so many pillows in my house upstairs. My bed's got 19 pillows on it. Right. And then every night you got to get rid of these pillows and then put them back on. It's like we should never buy throw pillows. I bought a couch, which I got a true bill notification about because it was a large transaction. You sure you want to do this? Yeah, because I, again, it alerts you on large transactions.

It does. And it came with so many pillows. I think, no, I didn't send you a picture. But I ended up throwing out 80% of them because you can't even sit on the couch with all the pillows. But I did get a true bill notification, which I like the large transaction one just because it'll, it just shows me like, you're spending a shit ton of money, but it's worth it. Who are all these people just pillowing it up all that? It's crazy.

I legitimately, as a culture, why we've figured out that or why we've, thought that pillows make things look better. Big pillow has gotten to all of us. They have. Women love pillows. What is that? I don't know. I hate pillows.

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slash 4-F-O-R-E. How do you feel, Riggs? Much better. Morning times when this is going to happen. Did the poopy talk make you poop? No, I don't think so. I mean, potentially. I don't know if that's weird.

But it's a little childish. Like if you talk about poop-a-pee around the little kids, they go, I got to pee-pee. Like, stop holding your pee-pee. It's because we're just talking about it. You know what I mean? I guess so. I mean, it's not like I chose to then have to shit.

Yeah. It's the thing. It had to go out. You have to go. But it felt nice. Good. Yeah, toilet paper better than grass. 100%?

I think. I mean, toilet bowl is massive. Yeah. You know what we're talking about just in the potty? Gotta have it. It's huge. Really good bathrooms in these lodges.

Delightful. At least it wasn't a hole. I was listening to, what's, it was a, it was a, no, the holes are nasty because some things can pop out of them. What was that? I thought you meant like digging a hole. Mark Norman, on Joe Rogan,

they had the Shane Gillis and... Protect our parks? Yeah, and Arasafir. And they're talking about shitting in holes. I think it was in China or somewhere in Asia, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

and he was shitting in a hole. And it's just a hole in the ground. And like, as he was shitting, just like cockroaches and all these fucking insects just come out once the dump hit the fucking water. And it was just a nightmare coming up at your asshole.

I thought you meant like a self-dug hole where you just dig a little... This is the whole of that like, this is their plumbing over there. Yeah, yeah. No, no. That's our weak, our weak stomach listeners are having a tough day. Yeah. Yeah.

You say cockroaches? Cockroaches. You said it like Tony Montana. Cockroachroach. Cockroaches. That's what he said the first time. I think I might have said cockroach. Were you to say something about Tiger Woods?

I was. Yeah. So Tiger Woods. We got, we done on the shit talk? We can move to Tiger Woods? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.

Tiger Woods did not play particularly well in the pro-em, but it's the program. Who cares? He did say, when asked that basically the plan was always to play the open championship that he prioritized his entire schedule around playing the open championship at St. Andrews, which I think we pretty much pegged and got all jacked up about in like February. Early. Looking at the entire schedule.

And then anything else was a bonus that he feels and significantly stronger, better than he did at the PGA. And then it's all systems go. He wrote a cart, I believe a lot of the program. And he was like, of course I wrote a cart. Like, I'm just trying to save myself for the open championship. So quick updates on Tiger that basically he was prioritizing. He was focusing all year long on I'm going to play at St. Andrews at the old course

where he's won twice by eight shots and by five shots. I think that's very excited. What is not playing well mean? Like what did he like is she shot 77 74. Yeah. I mean that's not the best. No, that's bad. I want to say he finished 39th out of like 50 pros or something.

Okay. I'd like to see him play a little bit better going into the open. It's going to be a tough test out there at St. Andrews. I saw a quote from him that I had something, you know, I didn't see the video of it or the audio so it was just written so he could have said it in a way that was more like lighthearted but someone asked asked him where are you going to play leading up to the open to prepare and he said I'm not going to tell you because I don't want people out there watching me I couldn't obviously I saw it in written for him so he could have just been like I'm going to tell

you guys I don't want people out there watching me but it came off like I don't want people watching me it was the first time I'd seen him give an answer like that where he's just like he acknowledged that he is uber super famous and he doesn't want people watching him all the time Yeah, I think it's probably understandable He's just like, I'm not going to tell you my schedule He also took a picture with somebody in a bookstore And he looked unhappy He had to get books for the trip

He was in the thriller section At the bookstore? Yeah Yeah He just didn't look happy He looked like a guy who was like I'll pretend to be happy to take this picture But also you're Tiger Woods

You probably can't go to a bookstore I can't believe he's going to a bookstore Sucks, he can't go to a bookstore Also he's not happy taking that foot Like what do you mean like It's obvious Like it's just the most He's just kind of like...

Yeah, because... They're also standing at a gap. You know, the guy was like... It's just... We've seen it on a one trillionth small level where it's like, you have to take the same picture and be the same happiness with all the people.

Like, you go to the Barsoe Classic, whatever. Because that person, it's their first time taking a picture with you. Tiger Woods has done that. A trillion times. It's just like one time. He's just like not happy to take that photo. And then we're all on the internet being like,

this guy doesn't look happy to take this photo. It's like, dude, the guy's just picking out a book. I get what you're... I get what you're... I also understand what you're saying rigs where I feel bad for him that he can't go to a bookstore, but he is super aware that he's Tiger Woods. Yeah. And I wish he-

Go on Amazon. I wish he could go to a book. Probably is out of a billion photos if there's one where he's not showing his teeth and he's like not smiling. And everyone's like, oh, he's an asshole in that bookstore. I don't think that was the takeaway. Is that what people are saying? Well, a lot of people are like, Tiger's just like not happy to be with this guy. And it's just like, obviously.

Yeah. Those people are idiots. I mean, we're literally talking about right now. It was your takeaway. Well, I was just saying, that was my general feeling. I didn't know if that was everybody's general feeling. I was just saying that, um, you, Tiger Woods, you're going to a bookstore. You're going to have to take a picture.

Yeah. That's, that's, that's the way that it is. Yeah. That's true. That's how that's reality. But I also don't think that's the end of the world. He goes, just takes a picture and then keeps looking for books. Yeah.

If it happens four or five times, like he's not going to be happy, but he's just going to look at the camera. Yeah, I think so. Like, I'm looking for a book. You want a picture. Like, take the picture now. What books were, was he hold now? I was trying to figure it out.

I couldn't quite see. I'm not sure. He's holding like two books. I loved to know what they were. What is that book? I bet you read some fucked up shit. If that, if people figure out, you think so. Oh yeah, just like, he should write a book.

He should write a thriller. I bet you'd love just a fiction thriller. He'd write like a military fiction thriller. Maybe he has under a shooting. What is that? Whose book is that? Strangers. But what, whose book is that?

What? Tiger was holding? Oh, he was. holding. I couldn't see it. I thought he was just giving the top book in the world right now. It was actually the pros at Pressworks. You're mad about the general tiger people being mad about it. We were just talking about you asked what book was he holding and he gave you the name of the book and he said who's book? I thought you just said top book. You said top book. It's because he's holding two books. I get it now. Top book like ranking. You were thinking. Yeah. I was like just in the world. That's pretty interesting. That's not that be the Bible. Yeah. Weird. Bible's usually way up there. It's usually way up there. A lot of copies sold.

So anyways, we got Tiger Woods. That's the latest update. Happy he's going to play. He seems like he's in good spirits. That's all good. If you see him, let us know where he's at. Yeah, especially at a bookstore. Yeah, or golf course.

Are hotels still doing Bibles? Yes. Yeah. Really? Every single one. I check him sometimes if there's any money or like ransom notes in there. Ooh, I haven't seen one in a while. Because I've seen way too many movies where they put like money in the Bible and they're like,

oh, we'll just make the next person happy. Like some criminal do it. Yeah. I check them They do still do that It's yeah You pull that drawer open It's in there

I will It's definitely in there I don't know if we have one in here though No I don't think so No I wonder if it's company policy Because everywhere does it It's what you're making

How much they would save Right Hilton Brands was like We're done putting the body Like we're That's actually a really good point Like if you were If you're a hotel company

And you're like How we trying to cut corners Make a little bit more money We cut out the bibles We say five mil a year And then you're It's not like they're buying a new Bible every year. They seem like pretty new Bibles,

but I guess nobody's touching them. No. Which is like, then why are we buying these things? Right. Why are they in there? What started Bibles in hotel rooms? It's one of the weird things that still happens.

Right. Just like, just, oh, we got to have them. Probably such a, it's probably at the point now where it's just, would be such a potential negative story if you got rid of them.

Right. Hilton cuts out Bible. Yeah. Like, you know how, like, there's a sneaky massive percentage of the country then that would be like fuck hill

that's so true but it is you're the devil yeah it is funny if you're like starting a hotel you're like all right we got the little bottles of shampoo we got you know the pillows we got the blankets oh we got to get the bibles we still got to get the bibles it's like that's just an extra cost bibles and hotel rooms

is very interesting you about 400 Bibles so many Bibles it's a ton of Bibles do hotels get discounts on Bibles I got a Bible guy for sure Bible and bulk you're buying than that kind of bulk. Hilton's setting up, you know,

another hundred hotels this year. You're giving discounts on Bible? Why have Bible and not like, what's like the Torah? The Quran? Quran. What's a Torah? No, that's wrong.

Quran. I don't know. I'm not going to get them. Probably I feel like our country's more, where we're used to in the United States. That's why I was interested. You're appealing to the percentages. Right.

You're telling a couple of dances in terms. No, no, it's just facts. Well, it was a good, you know. Tippity tapping. Question. Tippity tapping. around. Let's talk about the Pope again.

Yeah. Let's get more into that guy. Why wasn't Tiger happy taking that photo? Fucking asshole. Billy Horschel went off on live golfers, called him hypocrites and liars, defended the PGA tour pretty hard. I saw Billy Horshiel in the airport. Really?

At London. And Heathrow. He threw. He loved Heathrow. Right at the time when I guess my luggage was entering that mountain, I ran on Billy Horshawks. Came darting across, saw me. Oh, wow. I was like, what's up, bro?

Dapped me up. We had a nice hug. chatted for like 30 seconds, like a bro hug, chatted for 30 seconds. I'll say he's been wearing that blueish hoodie nonstop. Because I saw him, I saw him in his presser that we're going to talk about. He's wearing that blue hoodie.

And then when he was at the airport, I saw him, he's wearing the blue hoodie. And then I saw that he tweeted about his stay at like this new hotel in London all week. And he's wearing the blue hoodie and all the promo photos. He's been wearing it for like a week straight. Looks good in it. But anyways,

he was asked about. I like that our in-person meetings with Billy Horshawson since the podcast have all gone pretty well. Very well. I think great. Yeah. I love Billy Horsal now. Yeah.

I'm not afraid to say that. He was great. A big old smile on his face. Yeah. He's like, where are you going? Playing golf? I was like, yeah, we're going to Scott. He went to real.

He's like, unreal. I've been out here for like two weeks. I was in Munich and then I'm in London. I figured I'd just stay over here and then I'm going to play Scottish Open Championship. You guys be out there. I was like, yeah, we'll probably be there Monday or Tuesday and San Andreas. He's like, awesome.

See you there. And then he just trotted off and went and ripped on live golfers. He's called them all hypocrites and liars. and basically framed it in a really interesting way that I hadn't heard yet where he was like, look, anybody who is taking shots at J. Monahan and the PGA Tour, you're also taking shots at us because we, the 200 members of the PGA Tour are the PGA Tour. He was like, I'm the PGA Tour.

The people that make up the decisions and contribute and on the boards that ultimately decide what the PGA Tour is and how it goes is us. And he's like, so those guys are taking shots at us whenever they do that. And I think they're liars and hypocrites because they're not coming out and just saying, you know, the truth. They're not coming out and telling everyone precisely why they're going.

They're going over there and saying like, oh, we don't get listened to by the PGA tour. He's like, what are you talking about? Like everybody gets listened to. They obviously are going to enact every single thing that 200 people that are members want them to do because it'd be chaos.

But they're listening and that's why we have the tour and that's changes that are made. So these guys are liars and hypocrites. It was funny that the one person who said that PJT tour doesn't listen to us was Patrick Reed. Like imagine those list of demands that he gave them. It was just eating. Like it had to be some absurd shit on there.

So I thought that was funny. It is interesting to watch guys start to get fed up. And I think Billy even said it. He's like, I can't be diplomatic anymore. Like I've been going through most of these things and you give like, you know, I respect everybody's decision. Do whatever you can for the blah, blah. Like there's so many.

It's only so many times you can give that answer until you get to a guy like Billy. And also, do you see Freddie Couples's quotes from like a week or two ago? Those are very funny. I thought those were some of the best. one so far. What all he said? He said well he went after Phil he's like if you ever seen him look so stupid up there he's just up there he's I did say I'll never play off of Phil Nicholson ever again. He would talk to him again and then he took a shot at Pap Perez being like he's a he's a dust of what did he say he's like a grain of dust in the wind on this tour so he should be happy with

whatever tour he plays for and whatever he gets wherever so he was a couple guys are coming out now and just being like this is how I feel about it obviously people can feel differently, but people are probably sick of answering the same questions over and over and over again. Yeah, you're right. That spot where he was where, uh, Billy was like, I'm not going to be diplomatic about it anymore. Yeah. Was, I think, just a little bit of a

boiling point for several people, including Fred couples and him, of just like, no, I'm just going to tell how it is now. I'm sick and tired of being like, you know, and he did say he's like, I don't have any ill will and I'm not like not friends with guys now that went over. But when it comes to professional sins, like, I think they're just being liars and hypocrites and I'm going to just tell you what I think. Yeah. Yeah. You took the money. It's like just that's the only answer. It's interesting that this is the only situation in the history of sports where we're demanding that the that the players admit that they

went for the money. I mean, while in every other sport when a guy leaves his team or leaves his league and goes to a soccer league and leaves the premier league and goes to the other guy or whatever, that's always just like the most generic fucking cookie cutter like agent answer of all time. Like wanted a new experience, wanted a new jersey, wanted a new coach, the whole thing. It's just like now we're like, How much money did you make and why did you go for it? I think the Cano left the Yankees for like a hundred extra million dollars. Never once talked about the reason being an extra 100 million. I think the reason is is because there's a chance when like a baseball player does that,

that what he's saying might be true. We know that they're lying this time. Like we know. Yeah. Like there's a chance that the guy legitimately if he goes from one baseball team to other, he's just like, I need a fresh start. I've been there so long. I felt like we weren't doing the right things.

and I needed a new atmosphere, that might be true. When a guy says who goes to live, I'm trying to grow the game, it's pretty clear that it's a lie. People don't like being lied to so bluntly. They can accept maybe, oh, I wanted to go somewhere else because I'd worn out my welcome somewhere else. People don't like being flat lied to when it's pretty clear. I think every guy is lying that went to live,

even like the lower stage guys that are like just trying to win golf tournaments. Like they see that they have a better chance to get over there. I think them in particular, yeah, because it's, they, like, they definitely went for the money because they knew that they weren't going to make as much money here. Yeah. It's just safer. Like James Piot. Yeah. It's like, has anybody even heard from him? I mean, like, everybody just knows he's now and live and, like, he's getting a check. But it's just safer dollars. I would, though, say to your point, I feel like almost, like when Tavares left, did he really get questioned or did he just talk about the next opportunity in Toronto? Well, we offered him more money. He took less. Like, you know what I mean? Right. So I had nothing to do it. Right, but like.

Unfortunately, he just left. Right. But like, was he ever questioned on the way out? Was he? The money was never an issue. No, I know. But like, I'm just wondering. In any sense, did, like, was he interviewed about, like, why he left the Islanders?

Of course, dude. It was like the biggest decision in Islanders history. Like, that's the only thing he talked about for a year. It was the only thing he talked about after every single game. I mean, when he came back to the Coliseum, we, like, threw snakes on the ice and shit. It was, like, crazy. Right. It was, like, the biggest thing.

of all time. We're like, why did you leave? It makes no sense. We just got a new coach. We got like, we got a new GM. We have like good draft. Yeah, I guess my thought is like you don't hear much of like the player's past experience. He said he walked around. It's just like I'm excited about the next place. He said he walked around his pool for two hours the minute before he had to submit his answer and didn't know if he was going to be an Islander or Maple Leaf. Like he talked about every moment. He actually like outlined minute to minute how he made

his decision. I feel like that's like an outlier then. I feel like if somebody leaves a team, they don't get much, like, many questions of their past experience. It's always, no, they always do like a press conference. Like, why did you cut, like, what, what was the decision? I feel like those. I also think the teams are, are the team thing in a sport is different because the teams are relatively the same thing. Yeah. This is not. This is completely different. Yeah. This is a rival in your contract. Like, when you leave in, in American sports, like, when you leave, it's because your contract was like up. And it's like, now you have a decision to make. There's no contract that's up.

These guys are members of the PJ tour, and they chose to like cut it off, leave, and go to a rival tour. Yeah. That is like... Colo-Chuk leaving the NHL and absolutely destroying the devils and just going back to the KHL.

He got a lot of heat for that. Yeah. So yeah, I just think that that part of it makes it pretty different. But, but yeah, it's... We're just like, we demand them to be like, we need you to talk about the money. It's just the only time in, like, the history of sports that we've done it.

But it is because we know that that's why they went. None of this other stuff. Like, you're not trying to play against the best players in the world. It's a worse field, significant. Like,

why do you think that everyone needs a satisfaction just hearing them say it just because we don't want to be lied to? Yeah, because they're saying other things that we know just aren't true.

Yeah. Like, you're not going because it's fun and exciting. I don't think that's, I don't think anyone's going for that reason. And it's just like an obvious,

like what DJ said. Like, just do that. And I don't think DJ's got much scrutiny. You know, it's just, yeah. Yeah,

it took $17, a million, a lot of the lottery. This is what I'm doing left. The only thing that made me, I was kidding, but the only thing that made me like Liv was watching Taylor Gooch give his Rider Cup President's Cup answer. It was one of the, one of the better things I've ever seen, especially saying it, what he said was out at the, where were they, Portland, Portland, he was like, I've never played a presidents or president's cup or rider cup, but I can't imagine just a whole hell of a lot different than the crowds out here. He said it in

front of Patrick Reed and Dustin Johnson. Dustin Johnson had to turn. away because he was laughing. It's just putting guys in a position like that and then having them carry the water and drink the Kool-Aid so much where they say outlandish answers feels like a parody movie. And I love that part of it. Did you just look to the side and was laughing? That stuff to me is like, I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime where it was just like such a blatant like, gee, golly, these crowds out here are pretty crazy. It feels like a rider cup even though I've never played in one. And I think there are like 5,000 people there totally.

The first team was insane though. They did get the people going. Definitely not a rider cup or president scouts go. But it's also similar like when the worst team in the league and they do an interview in front of the fans of the last game. They're like, we have the best fans in the world. I mean, everyone drinks the Kool-Aid when it talks about who they're getting paid from. I mean, Taylor Gouch is not the first person ever like prop up his employer ever or like

You just rarely see his teammate laughing his face. Yeah. No, for sure. That's why DJ's got a man. Yeah. But like every like I remember. I remember sitting in the Coliseum, like game 82. We like won 17 games that season.

And like Tavares would get on the fucking mic at Center Ice and be like, you're the best fans in the league. Like there was 12 people there being like that dude just doesn't believe any of this shit. Like obviously in Toronto, the fans at that point were like every night was a fucking biggest night of all time. Like you kidding me? It's just not the same. Yeah.

We're not the same. No. No. Which is similar to like Taylor Gooch being like it's probably the Rite a Cup. He's never experienced that and he's like Oh, this is fucking unbelievable. Right. It's like, dude, there's actually guys playing in the Ryder Cup

they're just actually experiencing it. 10 times better. Patrick Reid. Captain America's standing right next to him. He's just like, oh, boy, it's not. It'd be funny if one of them was like, this is not. It's like, well, come on.

They probably, Taylor Gooch probably got, they probably gave him like two million bucks for that answer. Yeah, probably a big bonus comes in. A little wild Wednesday for him. Myrtle Beach, we're talking about, we're talking about golf trips right now. We're in Scotland. Golf trips are the coolest thing you could possibly

do. Myrtle Beach. Myrtle Beach we're going to later this year. We're going to be talking and hyping that whole place up while we're there. Different than Scotland. A lot different offerings. Beaches. They got all kinds of restaurants. We went to the Pirates Voyage. There's just a lot going on there in Myrtle Beach. It's the golf capital of the world. They got more golf courses there over 70. They got the sandy white beaches, local breweries, hundreds of restaurant options, pretty much anything you could want to do. Myrtle Beach has it. Two of the courses you visit, you must visit during a trip to Myrtle Beach, Caledonia Golf and Fish Club and True Blue Golf Club.

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organize the entire thing with Scotland. He told us that there's a run of golf here. I believe it's 11 courses or something like that or it's 82 straight holes that you can walk. It's like 11 miles. And like the furthest distance from T-E-Ronged. box to T-box is like 500 meters. So like in theory you could play I think

he said like 82 holes straight. It's like the courses like line up like that in Scotland. That would be a long day. 11 miles. Wow. We walked seven miles yesterday. Yeah, 11's not crazy.

Well, it's got to be 11 miles from beginning to end and then seven miles because we go back, forth, back, forth back. We got to have cars picking us up. Yeah, we need to. Right. I wonder how much it is when you actually play the courses. know what I mean?

Because like you go that way, you come back, you go that. Is it 11 miles you think from beginning to end? But then you walk more miles within the middle. You know what I'm saying? I think. Yes, I think I do. But the holes are going like in a straight line. Oh, I see.

I see. Instead of like on the coastline. Oh. So instead of kind of zigzagging like we do to walk seven. It's just you're walking 11 miles straight. I thought he was saying there's 82 hold or whatever, 72 holes in the, in the midst of 11 miles. You know what I mean? I think that is what he's.

same. But, oh, but it's in a straight line. Yeah, I was thinking a square. It's on the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like yesterday we walked seven miles. That's crazy. Where the fuck is that? 20 feet from where we started. This would be walking 11 miles. We'd be 11 miles from where we started. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. I think that's right.

I think that's right. You nailed that. Thanks. How about Perez shot 80 in the final round and he made 900 grand? Yeah. And then he made a couple million because the team won. Well, I'm saying he made 900 grand total. Oh, he did. He got. I think he made. He made like a hundred something for the prize and then he got 750 which is I think the team splits

three million between four guys so we made 750K for finished he shot 80 yeah that's like a t2 finish in a major yeah I mean it's it's that's a team aspect though yeah no that's I mean they're making money over there yeah I think that's pretty right Reeves doesn't score a fucking goal but if they win he gets a fucking right huge bonus then he gets a fucking ring well deserved Guys in the fucking press box. DJ actually roasted him. It was like they were doing the presser at the end. And they're asking you're like, yeah, what was it?

He's like, you know, we had a great team effort today. Like, everybody played well except Pat. That's like, I don't get fucking. Aside from, like, that is cool that some part of golf is doing that. Like, I would love to see that over here where like a guy has a bad day and his team picked him up. That is, I love that shit. Right.

You know what I mean? Doing a project. The guy does nothing. Yeah, but that is team sports. Definitely. Guy has a bad game still wins. the guys pick them up they fucking rally around him like next game you got it i kind of like that a part of golf is there the aces you huge aases fan no i don't get a hat dude get a

fucking a asses hat fuck man i saw a guy castler crane who's reeds cat he just was pumping the aces on his instagram story made me laugh out loud every time they're also they got the trophy that no one has ever seen before that they're just like they're carrying around like it's a stanley cup they're taking pictures they're drinking next to it they're i mean they're in he was all the playing he got like the sideways Hit like the sideways Asis hat was like, let's go Aces. And was like doing just like they're all, they're all geared up. It's the worst name of sports.

The Aces? Four Aces is that one of the names is pretty bad over there. It's like just team one, team two. It's DJ's team. It should just be legit and just be fucking brands. It should be brands for sure. Yeah. I think eventually it will be.

Yeah. I think that's their plan. That's their hopeful goal. I saw Dylan DeCere was tweeting quite a bit about the, uh, the, the misconception that live golf doesn't have any plan to be profitable. And he was touting a lot of like they want to go the Formula One route. They want to eventually have each team that is sort of owned by a brand. They obviously want to be on, you know, television with media deals, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Yeah. So who knows? That's a long play. I would say basically the way they're spending money. I would say that's the long game. Perez shot 80 and they just gave them a million dollars. It's like, oh boy. That's a bull.

I love seeing all the guys over in Scotland. It was they had a, or over in the UK, Spieth, J.T. and Ricky were out in Ireland two or three days ago. They just a bunch of footage came out of them having like pints of Guinness walking down the fairway. That was cool. Hang with the locals. It looked awesome. I thought that was fucking awesome.

It's also cool to see J.T. and all them like posting photos on their Instagram of a golf course. Yeah. It's just a little weird to see it. You know what I mean? Because they live on a golf course. And they play with the same thing we do. Yeah, like JT posts a picture of like the clubhouse and being like, what a place and like just a random like fairway and green. You know what I mean?

It's just like wow. That dude's just like a 28 year old fucking guy playing golf on a golf trip in Ireland. It's pretty cool. I wonder if they get more space over here. You know what I mean? So it feels more special. They go to American course and a thousand people show up. You're telling your buddies that like, oh, JT's here.

We're here. Maybe they get to just kind of like walk around and enjoy it a little bit more. JT just has his rotation of courses that he goes to, right? He probably just plays at home and then he's got one in California probably. He's just like he just hits his certain ones. Here he gets to play a place. He never gets to play ever. You can't do that.

I feel like you can only do that very rarely in the United States for one of these guys. You know what I mean? You can't just show up to like a destination place. No. JT can't go to like banden, can he? No. There'd be chaos. No, I think you can.

You can? Yeah, because you're really. only with your group. I mean, yeah, when you're at the clubhouse, it's probably a little bit of a disaster. But, like, the rest of the time, you're just with three other people for the most part. Yeah, abandoned, though, like, the food's all on-site.

I know, I know Homo went to, I mean, he's not as big as those guys, but I know he went to Bandon for, I want to say, like, his, I don't know if it was his bachelor party or birthday or something. A few years ago, he, like, literally went to band him with a bunch of guys.

That's pretty awesome. Yeah, I think it had the group of, like, eight, and they just went to ban it, like a year and a half, two years ago, something like that. Or maybe within the last year, something along those lines. But he's all, yeah, I mean, like Tiger can't do it. Rory, I don't know that he could do it.

Because it's just like it's the ultimate golf destination. So all the golfers that would be diehard fans of the guy showing up, it would be like Steph Curry playing the Barso Classic in the Bay Area. It's like, it's insane. It's an insane decision to be like, you're just going to show up here. It is. But then again, Steph Curry during the round is like pretty much just with his boys that he's there. Until people found out he was there.

And then they were like driving up the beach and like running onto the golf. person like taking pictures of them. I do think I don't know. Literally like ran out of there. I have no evidence to back it up. I feel like guys like J.T. and Spieth and Ricky when they come here, they just have a little bit more breathing.

They have to. Yeah. Everyone here is just more polite and like they let people do what they want. And it's proper. It's more pure. Yeah. And like whether or not like traditional whatever, but it does seem like they would leave those guys alone as opposed to

America. People just want autographs. Yeah. And it's not to say that they don't know who like they're maybe, they're bigger. golf fans than we are. People definitely know who they are. They know exactly what's going on. They're just a little more like, yeah, go enjoy our place as opposed to us. We're like, I want a fucking picture. I want to touch you. Yeah. Like the American cultures, I want to get as close as possible to people. Oh, yeah, we're

born from that. I want to touch them. I're like, I feel like, yeah, it's like, yeah, go. A lot of our, a lot of our brand is built on us hanging out with Tiger Woods. We just like to touch them. Totally. Just fucking high fives and dappes and dappes and fucking, how are you doing? So I saw him in a bookstore. I'd take a picture of him. Yeah. Tiger, what's up? Caption big. Why the fuck was you so mad? Why is this guy mad? He's Tiger Woods. Come on. We should be happy all the time running a stranger.

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So go get them. Go check them out, truly hardseltzer.com. Kyle says thoughts on live doing a novelty event such as a hickory club tournament Be awesome I could see them doing something like that That is one of the cool parts Hickory event would be unbelievable Yeah but like the tour would never do it right

Whereas like they don't seem to give a fuck The tour I think did like one hole right Like I forget what tournament was Yeah it was like the travelers or something On like the 12th hole or something This was a couple years ago they made guys do like different shit Like they all hit with like a hickory club club off the T to see how far.

But on like Wednesday. Yeah, it was like a Wednesday. Yeah. Definitely not a tour. But like an event would be epic. It was so cool to see like how far they hit it though in that one shot. Right. Your reaction to the tour may be doing a Hickory Club event is their problem.

Correct. Right. I agree with that. 100% where it's like. Because you're right. But they need to do shit like that. Yes. And I think that they're behind.

They're behind. They're behind on not having done that. PG tour is boring. It's like that would make it fun. Yeah. If they did, uh, you know, I don't know that it would have. to be the entire tournament or something maybe it could be i mean i don't know why it couldn't be i guess at this point maybe do a one-day tournament or something yeah but the live i could literally see live

just doing it i mean 54 do it out here just do i fucking presswick and do 12 holes if they just did the course and it was imagine how hard we'd watch that watch that much and must watch and with the pj tour field i don't care about like i want like the real deal guys i want justin thomas and tony fienow i want Homa. I want Tiger Woods out there with a fucking Hickory Club playing 12 holes, seeing who's the best with just their skill, no help at all. Yeah, if they played those clubs off the wall hitting the spoon. They played the original layout of Presswick for the open.

And they played a, you know, four round, like you could do two rounds a day because it'd be 24 holes. You can just do two rounds a day. And you could just have, they could invite, you know, the top 24 golfers in the world or something like that. It's funny that the answer to that happening is make the purse huge. right that's true that's why they would do it you know which is what lives do it that's what i mean you get just got to like they're not they're we want them to do it because it'd be fun to watch they want to do it because 50 million dollar purse come right and because they they might get embarrassed on some shots and they don't like that so you'd have to have it financially yeah you got

to make it worth it it is funny the more you talk about like good ideas for golf and like where it could go and all these things like it is falling into like what live is trying to do it's just it's horrifically backed money and all this stuff and all the atrocities and all that. It's just I've been trying to play the other side of it because I do think that there is a part of it that is trying to do things that are cool for golf. Yeah. I genuinely do think that. A few weeks ago, I think we talked about it and basically said like not everyone that's

involved in live is a bad actor. Yeah. Like it actually could just be one person about that's the person behind it. And that one guy that works for MBS that's like the, the, the, I can't remember what his name is, but he's the guy that like Phil hugged at the first event. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Like it might just be after him, everyone he's hired is actually trying to make golf cool over there. Like everyone that they're from the people in the broadcast to the logistics folks to the people hyping up the first T and the fans and the and the format and like all in all that. That could legitimately be true. And I think it is true to agree. It's just tough when it's when it's based solely on money. Yeah. Which sucks because it's like everybody's getting paid from that money. You lose a lot of the passion.

You lose a lot of the like they're not there to. their legacy, there is no legacy. We're making fun of the fucking aces. They're trying to create the legacy. Totally, which you have to start somewhere. And maybe someday we'll look back and be like, how wrong were we? They like created this thing 15 years ago.

That's amazing. But I doubt. Hick these tournaments all the time. It would be great. It is tough now because golf has gotten so big that regardless of the governing body, regardless of who's backing it, money is the motivator. Golf has gotten so big.

It's not like we're starting in 1860, 1851, whatever at Presswick, where like there's nothing except, passion for it. So now the game has grown so much and the money has gotten so huge that it doesn't nothing's going to move these guys except money. That's just an American sport. So I think that what we, I think our perspective isn't broad enough to understand this has been happening in other sports for a long time. Formula one has been getting guys just taken away from their teams and brought to other teams with just outrageously big contracts. Soccer. I mean, guys would go from different leagues based on like the owner giving them like ownership rights to their teams and like you know

like i mean rinaldo's been moved and all these guys have just been like messy's been moved it's for almost billions of dollars it's insane the amount of money that's been bought but there's no there's no patience for like the tour championship is a good example they want that thing to matter yeah the only thing that they can do to it is just pump money into it yeah like you it's what's a vent base i'm saying you're saying like golf in general is now becoming money motivated And I just think that's like new to us because it's like that's our American way of looking at it, I think. I just think there's it's we're too far down in any sport now to make something matter without money. Like there's nobody's going to do anything for passion.

Athletes are so put up. Why are we so surprised it's happening in golf then? Oh, we're not surprised. It's just like the way it's happening. The way it's going down is fascinating. I think it's sudden. I think like the fact that it's a split. There's just never been that before.

There's always been multiple soccer leagues. You know, there's always been multiple teams in Formula One. There's always been multiple teams in the NHL. There hasn't been multiple top golf leagues. It's just interesting that they're now put in a position where everybody has to evolve and make it more interesting. And it's almost like no good idea is good enough. No idea is better than money. Yeah.

Right. That's right. I mean, I will say like what we've done in the States, like the NHL pays more than anybody. Like the NBA pays more than anybody. But that's why we get all this incredible talent. So it's like, in the sense, it's a little bit of. reversal. I think the way that some European teams do it.

Like, I think soccer is maybe the best kind of controller, like, of, you know, where players go, how you actually grow teams. Like, imagine if the NHL took the soccer model where, you know, who's the Islanders Farm System team? Bridgeport Islanders. They could, like, raise talent and then against, like, in soccer, they get to buy. And then you can.

can elevate your team and invest more in prospects. And like, yeah, I think that's such an amazing natural model that, like, if Livtor was ever to go that direction where like, you know, you scout a player,

we talk about like Chris Godderup or James Piot. And like, then you could sell those to the cracking aces and then invest more in your own team. Cracking Ases. Great timing. World Series of Poker Week. Oh,

yeah. Dog and Smith, he got massive stacks. Go get them, they got massive stack. Two hundred. Doug's got over 200K. It's insane.

Nate's wearing the mask too. No, he's not. I pretty sure I saw a picture of that. I saw a picture from just like Nate dog's like smiling. I saw a couple pictures. I saw some. Smitty like, yeah,

I think he said he put it into perspective. Like Smitty was at like 170 or something like that and like the highest he had ever gotten in past years was like 115 or 120. That was on day three. He's on day two. So yeah, they're really doing well. I mean like Nate.

Like Nate is even more than that. I saw Nate at 201,000 or something like that's crazy. That's crazy. His high goal for that day was 189. He finished with 201. Wow. Go get them, boys. Cracking ace.

I'm not like kidding to think of what to live to our team's name. Four aces or something. Is it the a ACEs? Four aces. I had a quick from the gallery that has nothing to do with golf. It was, um, let me read off this hypothetical for you guys real quick. Um, I know we have a tea time to make. We do.

We're playing Donnell today. It's 40 minutes. All right. All right. All right. Yeah. Yeah. That's no problem.

Have you guys, have you guys showered and everything? No. No. That's still no problem. Okay. Okay. So this is the question. You get $10 million right now in your hand, but there's a catch.

A snail is chasing you for the rest of your life. And if it touches you, you die a terrible, horrific death. The snail cannot be killed. It knows your location at all times. Its only purpose in life is to find you. Are you taking the money? No. Not even close.

sleeping would be tough. Brutal. So I've thought about this a long, I didn't get much sleep last night because of this. Can I? Okay, go ahead. Well, I want to know what you guys are thinking.

Can I hit the snail with a baseball bat? It cannot be killed. No, I know, but like, can I, am I able to get my hands on it, like with gloves?

Sure, I'm sure you can like, if it touches you, you die immediately, but I'm sure that you're able to like swoop it away and then like you just make it move further away. I'll put that thing on a space shuttle.

dude you just can't you better hope yeah you better hope you fucking get it on there you just don't have somebody else to also can't relax but here's what I fuck there's no no no it's just an automatic note unless you know the like the skill set

of the snail so that's my point it moves like at a foot an hour then you could be like all right I'm just gonna like live between like here and you know China you know wherever like somewhere across the country I think it's skill set now you're uprooting your entire

you're leaving all your family and everybody just because of this snail thing. Oh, the snail can kill it. Your life's pretty good right now. Now you're just going to move to China because, like, what are we doing? Wait, so, yeah, so I think the only way you take it is if you calculate the speed of the snail, because you know that this smell is intelligent. The snail is intelligent.

Right. You know it. We know that? Yes. Well, it's fine. It's got tractor beams on. My interpretation of this snail is that it's very intelligent because, number one, it knows that if it touches you, it can kill you.

Number two, it knows your location at all time. It's only mission in life. Number three, it's only mission of life is to touch you and kill you. So it is aware at all moments of where you are. It's very smart. So if you move to China, it's going to like somehow know you're in China. You have to know, all right, it's going to get on a boat. It's going to fucking get here at some point.

I have X amount of years before this snail gets here and then I have to move again. And you have to hope that it's not smart enough. Like, could I live between here in Florida and then it's just trapped in the Carolinas? Is the snail? I would just wait for you. Is the snail smart enough to be just waiting in your bed in fucking Florida? Oh, okay. I'm under like the premise that it's basically like constantly moving.

It's smart. It's like it's so just wait for me in New Jersey when I remember it. It knows the location. You don't know. You don't know. You never know where the snail is. So I took it as a. Super easy for me.

He was always chasing me. Always moving. Well, you'd think. Yeah. I mean. All right. Then I'm not doing that because like then he's just waiting in one of the beds. Yeah.

Maybe. Maybe. But it's not. I wasn't taking that. I was thinking that he's constantly chasing me as I, what I thought the question was. So super easy. Let's say you make this deal with the snail in New York.

It's a yes? Yeah, because what you do, all right, I take the deal. Boom, $10 million might count. I pay NASA, some guy, astronaut, $500,000, whatever it's going to take. Take the snail, put it on the International Space Station, and then it's just up there, and I know that it's up there. What if it just comes back? Yeah, you have, like you don't. It's a snail, so what if it gets on one of the capsules that comes down?

There's always that thought. It's an intelligent. I'm going to have them put it in a case up there, and they're just going to look at it. There's always people up there at the international space. space station. Wake up in the morning. Trent, they get on their space phone.

The snail is here. I'd be like, all right, I'm having a good day. What do you pay a guy like a hundred grand a year and you just watch it's a snail? Done.

Yeah, put it in a crate. What if that guy just like falls asleep? Right. I mean, now you have a snail that just kills you. You die a horrific death for noise.

All right. My astronaut falls asleep. Now the snail's got got to figure out how to get down here. Good luck snail. The other part is like there's like, there's a lot of things out there trying to kill you every single day

that we just don't think about. the snail could just be one of them. You know what I mean? So like you have to kind of sleep on that. Yeah, I think it's an old for me. Fucking lurches, heart tries to kill him every single night. Like, it's just like,

it is what it is. Just another thing. You know what I mean? I don't say that, but yeah. Well, I'm saying it. Yeah,

you know what I mean? Don't say that. That's just trying to relax and put it off and you know what I mean. I almost want to break your ankle up right now. I'm on. I want to know. To pick and just snap it off. Go on my very day.

I'm on a beach. My snails and state in space. I'm good. I'm not taking the money. It's just too much stress. It's too much stress. Do I get all right,

do I get 40 million if I have four snails and I put them all in space? Yeah. I'll take your guys. You can't get him safe. Why? Because that's insane. Oh, oh. Oh, we got a smart snail chase me down and now we're talking about things that are insane.

This is the game of throw. Give me a fucking break. Look what we're, look where we're at. Give me a fucking break. All right. We got golf to go play. Dundon Donald. Dunnell.

Dundonnell links. So we get golf to go play. We'll be back. We've got scottish open this week, so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the trip. We'll be back on Tuesday. At one point,

we'll talk about Joey La Cava. We're definitely going to talk about how we have played golf twice with Joy La Cava in the last month. We keep teasing at the end of every episode. I like that. We'll talk about it.

Continuous tease. We got open championship next week, so when we come back on Tuesday, we'll have all that to break down. We'll be in St. Andrews. We'll have been there for four or five days. The Michael Scott Dior Room said the heart's fine, so we're good.

Hit it all right.