Fore Play - Rahm’s Redemption — Full U.S. Open Recap

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

Jon Rahm electrifies Torrey Pines and snatches his first U.S. Open. We break it all down: tomahawk fist pumps, tree balls, the course, Bryson’s meltdown, Rory’s close call, Louis racking up runner... ups, the streaker, Wolff’s transparency, and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay is Norway Barstool Sports. We just watched the United States Open Championship 2019 finish up. I'm still at the media center. I'm hoping to linger around and kind of do what ForPlay does and maybe get something with John Rom. But, boy, it was an amazing day, a very memorable day. Storyline probably couldn't be more perfect with everything that happened with John Rom,
Starting point is 00:00:28 which we will of course get into. I haven't seen Frankie, I feel like, in years. He's been through a lot. Trent was here and then took off and watched a lot on TV over the weekend. I've been kind of hanging around and seeing what I can get. But, boys, awesome United States championship, awesome drink called Owens Mixers, which we can get into as well. We should.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Transfusion Thursday is coming up Thursday, as it always is. But how are we feeling? How are you doing? What's up? I feel good. It was a fantastic U.S. Open. I want to give you a shout-out, Riggs, and probably Lurch, too. Who's not here yet, but I think he's going to join us in a second.
Starting point is 00:00:57 All Last Podcast. You were especially hot on John Rom. I feel like we get shit on for our picks because we're just, I mean, everybody gets shit on for their picks or whatever. But you had thought, and you had picked up a vibe while we were out there at the U.S. Open. Somebody called our job at the U.S. Open being professionally around, which I thought was very fitting.
Starting point is 00:01:17 But you were hot on John Rom all weekend. It turns out that you were right. So I wanted to give you your props on that. Yeah. Look, Rob was the obvious choice. I think I just saw Brando on Live from them. they had it on the media centers talking about how he kind of did what Tiger used to do, which was like Tiger was the pick, Tiger was the obvious pick.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Everyone would talk about how there's a million reasons Tiger Woods should win, and then Tiger Woods would win. And that very rarely happens in golf because there's 156 players in the field. But John Rom was the obvious pick. He got his first PGA tour win at Torrey Pines when he eagled on the 72nd hole. He got engaged, I believe, at Torrey Pines. They show the side-by-side pictures of his hometown in Spain and the cliffs, and then Torrey Pines and the cliffs
Starting point is 00:01:58 and talk about how he feels comfortable here. He's been playing extremely well, including holding a six-shot lead before he got booted from the tournament of Memorial because of COVID. So all of the signs are pointed to John Rom. And then John Rom came out and won, and that never happens in golf.
Starting point is 00:02:13 You like that doesn't happen enough in golf. It's hard. Like you said, anybody can get hot. Somebody gets a good bounce or two. Somebody makes a few puts and they just win the tournament no matter who was favored, but not John Rom. He went out, got it done in amazing fashion. and maybe the most like, and I guess it makes sense because all the anger stuff that we've talked about,
Starting point is 00:02:30 but maybe the most aggressive fist pumper in the history of golf. He's a fantastic fist pumper, and I'm sure hearing my voice on this podcast right now was kind of a shock to the hundreds of thousands of years that are now listening to the Four Play Golf podcast. You still on the show? This is Frankie Burelli. I know the flow was so good in Tori Pines without Frankie. They didn't stop to talk about Osmosis Jones and the fucking Oh, I'm gonna hit plus 15 seconds
Starting point is 00:02:58 Every time he talks Listen guys, I'm fucking back You read two tweets You read two tweets or something And you're all Lurch had a fucking championship U.S. Open weekend Listen, the flow was good
Starting point is 00:03:09 Because they were together, you idiots We've been talking through a fucking computer For a year and a half Not mad about it, just say I want to congratulate you guys On a great U.S. Open coverage. I mean, we all know when we get there It's hard to get stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:22 hard to get guys, especially during the pandemic. They're in weird spots. You can't go over to the players. But Barstool always perseveres. Kisner stuff all time. I mean, the interview you did today, Riggs with Kevin Kisner was laugh out loud funny. I mean, his smile was psychotic. It looked like a person that was being held hostage and then also was about to go like commit murder.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah. Kiz is the man. John Rom is a bad, bad mammajama. He just fucking figures out how to get it done at the end of the day. You know, we all know the story about him getting COVID, you know, a couple of weeks ago. And that whole ridiculous charade that happened on the green and the fact that he comes back the next time he's on a golf course and wins the U.S. Open. Hats off to that fucking guy. We've said a lot of things about John Rom.
Starting point is 00:04:08 But I think we are turning a quarter where it's just like, you know what, if he's going to fucking win and dominate and fist pump and be like this really likable, awesome dude that hits bombs and cuts onto fairways on the 18th fucking T-box, like a fucking. I mean, that was a phenomenal finish on 17 and 18, the way that he just stepped up there and ripped and did everything he could to win that thing. That's a guy that I'm going to back for a long time. I'm a really big fan of John Rom, the way he plays. And yeah, it's just, it's, I've like come around on this guy. Yeah, we used to make fun of him like you wouldn't believe. I used to root for him to implode.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And now I root for him to succeed. Well, maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but he's a great interview as well. All these questions he gets asked about the most. Memorial and testing positive for COVID and how should it have been handled. He takes the high road on every single one, but he's very insightful, and I want to see more John Rom interviews. Again, maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but when he speaks, he says interesting
Starting point is 00:05:06 things. It's not just boilerplate boring shit that everyone says. When he did his poster on interview, I thought he said some really insightful and interesting things. So maybe I just missed it, but I thought he was great. I think he's got a good team around him, too, because you could tell his response about the COVID stuff, was completely talked about prior to that round. Multiple people had their hand in what he was going to say,
Starting point is 00:05:30 because that is the big ticket question. That is the thing that they want to get from him. Like, oh, like, you could have won back-to-back weeks. He had the world's perfect answer. Like, a person that gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to come up with that answer, came up with that answer. It was, I mean, it moved me. It was like his friend had passed away and we're still in it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And you know what? We can only learn from this. Like, I am lucky. I mean, you asked John Ron that stuff just off the top of the head when he's walking off 18, you know, a couple weeks ago. And it's not as insightful and thoughtful as that. I think he's probably pretty fucking mad. But, man, he was really, really good today after his win. I mean, he's just super gracious, super humble.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And a guy that, like I said, he's easy to root for when he's playing well. He really is. I got to say, boy, did I make the wrong decision? Because, you know, we get these, I got this thing I'm wearing right now, which I don't need to wear for the podcast. but I'm just wearing. I'm going to take it off, actually. It's a little ridiculous. But, you know, we get this inside the ropes pass.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And everybody knows where you go to a golf tour. I imagine almost every single listener to our show is gone to a golf there. It's very hard to watch golf in person. Like, you can only see two people at a time, especially, obviously Saturday and Sunday. And there's a lot happening. Like, on the golf coverage, they cut from shot to shot to shot to shot. When you can just follow people to time. Shot, shot, shot, shot.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Sorry, that made me think of a little John. Keep going. You see, you know, you can only see basically two golf shots every, like, five minutes or four minutes or whatever. it is and like so it's it's important and then uh as the back on kind of started there were what like eight guys within a shot or do with a lead and it was rory was making a move bryson was making a move brooks had made a move louis was hanging on um rom was making a move and they're all kind of in different groups and i am and i was like man who should i follow who could i get the best of action from like it's all over the fucking places there's big names what am i going to get and i did the
Starting point is 00:07:18 exact opposite basically of what Frankie did when he witnessed the 2017 Masters tournament where he saw like every cool shot for that tournament I saw none of them every single thing everywhere that I went I saw nothing cool like literally nothing cool happened I went you know I left like the ROM group and and I followed him for like two holes he missed every put that he saw I leave him to go find Rory Rory goes like bogey double ROM all the sudden makes bombs and his fist pumping to the moon and I have to try to find it on Twitter where it does. doesn't work because there's, you know, 15,000 people around. So Twitter's not working.
Starting point is 00:07:51 So I couldn't even see the wrong fist pump for like 30 minutes, even though I'm on site. And I just missed everything. Like, everything that happened, I missed. And then at the end, when I decided to follow Louis Ooste's, and like, he just pulls one left on 17 into the shit. And I'm just like, I saw nothing cool. Like, nothing good that occurred at this tournament did I actually witness in person. So I just blew it. Like, everywhere I could have been, I wasn't there at the right time.
Starting point is 00:08:16 and everywhere that like something you thought sweet would happen like I guess the coolest thing I saw was Bryce and blade went over the green on 13 and like make make a double but that's a shitty thing like you don't want to see just shitty stuff so I just I just blew it like I just made the worst decisions and what a what a uh uh uh uh US open was to watch on TV like so good the drama I mean that fist pump you know 17 18 John Rom that's a moment I mean the people I was watching with were like oh Frankie like you could have been there for that. Like, you could have been on 18 as John Rob does a legendary fist pump, the little stutter step leading into the bump. I mean, that's something that people are like, holy shit in 30, 40 years when you're watching commercials about the U.S. Open and you're hearing about 2021 and Torrey Pines, that just replays in slow motion. You were there, Riggs, and you just didn't witness that.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You might as well have been on the fucking glider port jumping off the cliff. You were nowhere to be You watch Louis Oosteis and make a couple of gutsy pars. Yeah. No, literally I did. I saw him like on 16 he made like a six footer for par and I was like sick. I was trying to hype myself up. It's like what a putt. I almost I actually almost tweeted like wow, that was so clutch. And then right as I was about to tweet that and get it off, he just hooked one into the into the canyon.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And I was like, well, that. So I just, yeah, I just kind of blew it. But, you know, whatever. It is what it is. I also had, you know, I want to talk about the ear piece that I was wearing. because of the exact reason that we're talking about, where you can't follow anything in real time. So there's so much going on,
Starting point is 00:09:49 and they give out those free, like, little radios you put in your ear, you know, and they just give you all real-time updates of exactly what's happening. But you look like a total dork. And I came off, coming off 15, I ran into Kiz for the first time, watch a kid play his last four holes or something. He walked by me, he's like, is that a radio in your ear? And I go, yeah, he goes, it looks like a fucking tool. And then he just walked to, like, the 16T.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And I was like, well, shit. So, I mean, it's just a tough day. as a spectator for me out there. That's a big time old man move. Whenever I would go to Iowa football games at Kinnick Stadium, there would always be one guy who had the earpiece in, and he'd give all the injury updates. Like when someone would get hurt on the field,
Starting point is 00:10:26 we'd always be looking to that guy, like what's going on? Is he in or is he out? Is he doubtful? But it's a big time old man move. But I understand as a guy who, again, I've been to a golf tournament as well, a bunch of them, and you can't follow anything when you're out there,
Starting point is 00:10:38 when it's just you can only watch two people. So I understand it, but it's a big old man move. The radio and the binococan. are two moves that, you know, veterans sitting in your seats, maybe even, I'll add a third in there for a veteran, you know, venue sitter and someone that's going to watch live events is the cushion. They bring the cushion with them on the seat. That's a very big college football thing because they're on uncomfortable seats, I feel like, at a football stadium. So those three, it's the radio, the binoculars, and the cushion. That makes an all-time, all-star viewer of sports and live entertainment.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And look, and I had my stupid lanyard on, and then my, like, which is orange, and then, like, my blue radio, and then, like, my sunglasses. I just look like a dork. And so, I mean, you're trying to do the best that you can. It was obviously awesome. It was cool being there, but I just missed all the big stuff. You could hear the John Rom roar. Like, you could fucking hear it from four holes over.
Starting point is 00:11:34 You know, you just heard a mat. And everybody knew because everybody had the radios in. It was actually getting kind of awkward where on the T-boxes even, everyone had the radios in their ears, but they're all super low. But when everyone's super low, it actually is kind of, like you could kind of hear it around the T-boxes because there'd be, you know, 500 people around the T-box. And so everyone knew that Rom had like a 20-footer for Bertie on 18. And then you heard his roar and the radio at the same time. So there's actually like a mini-murmur roar around like the T-box where Louis was at the time. So the whole thing was, the whole thing was, it was very.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It was cool to be there. It always is. But I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. And I was drinking these shitty water bottles that we talked about, which are the worst water bottles. Frankie doesn't know that. Before we get to that, we got to talk about Owens Mixers,
Starting point is 00:12:22 which is the best mixer ever. The Marshall Transfusion, which we came up with, which you put in with vodka. It's awesome. It's taking everybody by storm. People can't believe how good it is. So go to Owens Mixers. They're on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They're in Kroger's. They're in CVS's. There are all kinds of local retail shops around you. And go get it on Amazon. on like I said because it could just come in a day or two to your house. You could drink it. You don't have to go anywhere. Big thanks to Owens.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They got great flavors. You poured it with liquor and you have an awesome cocktail. These fucking metal water bottles, Frankie, that you missed this week, you should be thankful that you weren't here because this, and I apparently they're like recycled. I think Jake Bass is going like, they're like recycled, whatever, which is great. I'm into protecting the earth. These water bottles suck. Everybody says they suck and they suck.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I'm permanently scarred. My finger is cut open because we try to open it and close it. Yeah, everybody's got that mark on them now. If you were at the 2021 U.S. Open with the media pass, you have a scarred pointer finger because those things cut you wide open. They must have got a discount on those. They were like, those were, you know, nobody was buying them. They were off the clearance rack waters because those things fuck up your hands.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Does the water taste worse than usual or no? Taste metallic. Okay. And it tastes worse because you were mentally rattled about the bottles. You want it to taste worse. Yeah, I know what that. Yeah. I can feel that.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Just the experience sucks. The experience is a zero. And water is water. Water is something that should come pretty damn easy, right? I know it's actually a sad thing in this world that it doesn't, which is kind of crazy. And that's actually, you know, one of these things that are coming up. People are starting to invest in water.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Have you seen this? Like water is one of the biggest investments because they think we're going to fucking run out of fresh water. Are you seen this? No. It's unbelievable. I don't want to run out of water. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:14:02 They said that's going to be the next fucking war. Talk about nuclear bombs and all this stuff. Water is apparently a problem. Water wars, man. I'm telling you. Water wars are going to be nuts. But yeah, I mean, water should be just fucking make it easy, man. You know, just fucking make it easy.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Trent drinks it out of a sink in New York City. Like, let's just get the water down this guy's gullet. You don't need to make it fancy in some metal fucking thing. I mean, I am a water snob, but I still like it to come easy to me. I don't want to have to wrestle this thing open and cut my fingers to drink water. If it's like this extreme drink, sure, maybe you. You got to, like, you got to figure out to get in there. We're talking about water here.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Frankie, I'm telling you, they get these metal, the metal caps on these things. It's a fucking war to get them off. Everybody's fingers are cut up. It's a disaster. I saw, Ian. I saw Louie doing it. I saw Louie, like, fissling around with it on the 17th T-box. Kids, kids, like, everyone's tweeting at me, like, how come I'm drinking Coors Light
Starting point is 00:14:56 inside the ropes? It's like, as it looked like everybody's drinking beers. It's ridiculous. Dude, I had a legitimate concern when we were out trying to be, we were being professionally around at the U.S. Open, I thought a picture of us was going to go out holding those waters, and people were going to think it was beer, and I thought that was going to be a whole thing. So I didn't take any of the water to the range because I was like, people are going to think we're drinking on a Tuesday and a Wednesday, and we're trying to be, when we're supposed to be
Starting point is 00:15:21 doing our jobs. The waters were a disaster. Yeah, disaster. And look, we love the association. They're great people, put on a great championship. Just, you don't have to, it's a, you don't have to reinvent the wheel situation. You literally don't have to re-event water. It falls from the sky.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Put it in a plastic bottle and fucking drink it. It's really not. It's just not that complicated. So, you know, this was a miss. Maybe, like you said, the company, you're doing somebody a favor. It's cool. Just don't do it next year. Like, we're over the metal waters.
Starting point is 00:15:49 These things stink. So you guys are obviously out there. I was pretty pissed that I couldn't make it. Obviously, we have a lot of stuff going on here in Long Island, on Long Island. But, you know, we were out there for behind the green. So I got to see a lot of the golf course from February. to two weeks before the Open and all this stuff. What did you guys think of being there for tournament play or championship play?
Starting point is 00:16:11 I know they like to call it championship play. And how do you think the golf course handled itself for the U.S. Open? Tori Pines. Dude, I mean, I thought it was awesome. I really, really thought it was awesome. I always go in at a course like this really positively to begin with because of the Muni aspect, any municipal course is obviously we're going to love were a muni type guys so right out of the gate you just you want to like it um and then on top of
Starting point is 00:16:40 that it just delivered like no one ever went extremely low um it put a ton of elite names at the top of the lead board you had a good mix of like guys that have won quite a few majors guys that were trying to get over the hump and win like their second major guys that were big names and trying to win their first majors and then total Cinderella stories it had like a really good mix of all of those names in the top 10. The greens were firm. So like, it was, it was cool to watch guys pretty much have the classic case in the U.S. Open that you're supposed to have, whereas if you miss the fairway and you're in the rough and you land something on the green, it is not going to stop on the green because the greens were too firm. That's pretty much what you had. And you had that all the way through the golf course.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I thought, like, they did a cool job on Saturday of moving it up. So, like, all the par five were moved up to where they were very reachable for every player in the field. So they mixed it up in a good way. So the views are obviously going to be really cool. Views matter. Hello. We've talked about that a million times. Like, yeah, there's a reason like ocean front property is more expensive than like Missouri or like Iowa, you know, middle of nowhere property is just because like being on a fucking ocean is nicer and makes things cooler. And that's the case here at Torrey Pines as well. So I thought it was awesome. I thought they did a good job. I heard like zero players complain. I feel like the entire week about setup, about pin locations, about rough, about greens,
Starting point is 00:18:00 beads, nothing. I don't think anybody complained about anything. So all in all, it was fantastic. Nobody got lower, I don't think, at any point than like, what, 600 par, which ended up winning the whole thing. And you had, you know, a handful of guys in that, like, two, three under, which is for the viewer, we like carnage and all that. That's right in the sweet spot. Like, no, it wasn't five over. But like, anytime that you're keeping the best players in the world round after after round, to something around like 71, 72, maybe a 69, that's really hard to do. And to do it them even bitching it all. I think it's just like hats off.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I thought they did an awesome job. The grounds crew, the USGA, I thought they nailed it. Yeah, couldn't agree more. I thought the course completely held up. I thought it did exactly what they had said, and they wanted it to do. Rich McIntosh's entire team over there, the fact that they get that place dialed in
Starting point is 00:18:48 from when is farmers January to till now, I mean, you're talking five months in between. They had to build that driving range. They had to get the rough up. They had to do all these things. They have to change the grass to poana and all. It's just the way that, I mean, they bring in the kakuya around the green surroundings. It's stuff that I don't even know is possible.
Starting point is 00:19:09 They're just like bringing in grass. I don't even know that that's possible. Actually, funny story, when we were filming behind the greens, our sound guys, sound guys are always fucking just wild cards, right? Oh, totally. Totally wild cards. Maybe the biggest wild cards in any profession across the board. And our sound guy was getting a little.
Starting point is 00:19:30 little bit too into what we were talking about when it comes to grass porn for behind the greens. I think he got swept up in the whole thing and started actually picking up a little bit of Kukuya around the greens at the U.S. Open on the Torrey Pines South and started putting it in a bag. And he actually like talked to like the guys, the assistant superintendents is like so when I go home and I throw this in my backyard, I'm just going to grow Kikuyu grass. And they're like, yeah, that's like kind of just what's going to happen. Like I do you want to do that? He's like, absolutely. And he just kind of got like, he kind of got caught up in the whole moment, I think, we were talking about how cool the grass was. We were trying to drum up some drama for the video,
Starting point is 00:20:04 but this guy was hook-line and sinker. He's got Kukuya growing in his fucking backyard right next to the swing set for the kids. Amazing. I've absolutely made. Lurch has joined the show. Hello, Lurch.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Hey, boys. How we doing? We're doing lovely. We're doing lovely. We're talking about the golf course right now and just Tori and how well it presented, how well it held up, how well it challenged these guys,
Starting point is 00:20:25 and how well it delivered just an elite leaderboard. Yeah. I mean, it was amazing. I'm sorry to miss the first 10, 15 minutes or whatever, but all the people negative on Torrey Pines and saying, oh, it's not a good layout. It's not a good whatever. Like, screw off.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That place was perfect all the way through. So enjoy. Happy to join the chat is the way you say it. But yeah, just a tremendous weekend of golf. Yeah, at a certain point, the leaderboard had all top five players in the world on it. Like they were within striking. Right. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:59 What do you want? What do you want? Like if that's what we're going to get, then that's what I want. I don't know what everybody else wants, but I want the best players in the world competing for the U.S. Open title. That's what I want. Everything else feels like noise to me. And how awesome is it to have the easiest hole in U.S. Open history be 18?
Starting point is 00:21:18 I find that to be such a cool part of the layout that, like, no matter what happens, whole 1 through 17, you could be two shots to three shots back on the 18th T-box and still have a chance. You know what I mean? Like no matter what happens, maybe the guy in front of you bogeys and you eagle, there's so much that could go on. And look what happened with fucking Louis. Like he still had a chance. And I think that should almost be a standard for every single major venue.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like, why make the 18th difficult? Make it scorable. Make it really easy so that these guys have a chance to do memorable, awesome shit. Right. Louis I agree. Saturday when he's on the 18T needs an eagle to tie and it's very possible. Like that's really fun.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Totally. I agree with you, but I also agree of rewarding the drive, having water cover the front. So you do have to put together like two good shots to get there. It's just a tremendous closing hole though. Like that is, because Louis was standing over that ball in the rough being like
Starting point is 00:22:17 maybe, could I? Yeah. And then eventually decided to lay up to do the old like feel like no, I can miss it the front side and coming back if I hit a really good one. But it was, that's, that's the best championship hole in golf. You know, not the tournament, the championship. Yeah, no, it's, it's, you need, I mean, Louis Eagle on Saturday was three tremendous golf shots.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So you get a 65 foot, whatever, however long that putt was. So, yeah, it definitely is a risk reward. What was he, like, 2.45 out in the rough. So he just couldn't, he just couldn't risk it. Because also, the thing that I, got me kind of going was the fact that this guy was, like, kind of fighting for solo second as well, right? Like there's a lot of money on the line. So do you just, like, do you think that's in his mind?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Like, do I go for broke here and go in the water? Or do I kind of just play for the birdie obviously, but, I mean, the eagle obviously, but I want to be birdie. I don't think it is. I honestly, so I was standing right there and you would see, like, I had, Craig Hook me up with this skybox thing on 18. So like at the beginning of the day from, you know, 10 a.m. until noon when like TV's not even really on, we were watching people come through 18.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And like to be that far out in that rough, there's no way he could have flown the golf ball onto the green. And if he somehow did, it would have gone 20 yards over the green. So like you're not doing yourself any favors. Like the only possible chance he could have had that would have made sense to go, you know, for it from there would be to land it maybe 40 yards short of the green, right of the pond, and then have it like take the hill that like puts balls into the pond and like ride in. like a highway and then exit the highway at the right time and roll on to the green like it just didn't it didn't make any sense when he actually had like a hybrid or a wooden his hand at first you know everyone in the crowd was cheering and going nuts and I was standing there being like if he does if he hits
Starting point is 00:24:08 this club the tournament is instantly over um now he hold on like I also kids was in the same spot that he was earlier to on the layup and I watched kids hit a good wedge in there that landed right next to the pin and ended up 15 feet behind it so it was also It was a really tough spot for him because I don't know which one genuinely leads, if you have the stats, leads to more Eagles. And when we talked to Will's Allotoros, remember he was even like, I actually make more Eagles now, not trying to make Eagles because I'm playing smarter. And when you play by the stats, you actually make lower scores,
Starting point is 00:24:44 and part of those lower scores are Eagles. So, like, I don't know statistically which one would actually yield more Eagles, but I think it was the one that he did. That feels like something Scott Fawcett has tweeted about in the last hour. Let me check. That feels like something he would talk about. Rigsie, like I, I agree with you in the aggregate, you make more eagles by doing whatever the hell you just said, numbers, et cetera. But in that moment, I think he's got to try to skirt the right side to get it close. Like, hitting a wedge from how many, so in that moment, if he hits a hybrid, he skirts it up the
Starting point is 00:25:17 right hand side, I don't know the numbers of that. But how many wedges does he hole out in a given year from what was he 117 yards or something like that what was he well i don't know his total number but like i think he's got a better chance to hit a hybrid up the right-hand side if he pushes it a little right yeah he's got a hole out of the bunker or maybe he's a little short of that like i think there's a better chance of going that way to make a three but i i don't i just don't like he didn't he didn't have a good lot he wasn't like it's not like he can just automatically fly at a certain distance from there he's in u.s open rough so like he if he if he missed is right, like, he has no shot. Like, look, Rom missed right. Rom couldn't even, like, he hit it to
Starting point is 00:25:59 20 feet and he had a good lie in a bunker. So, like, I don't think, I really don't think he had much of a choice, honestly. Like, he didn't have a shot. There wasn't, I'm saying, skip it up the right. He would have literally had to, like, use, like, centripetal force around a hill that goes into the water. I think it's centripical. Centripical is the word. To get it to not go in the water. Like it would have, it's not even a real shot that he would have had. It's not a real golf shot. Fair. To go back to Frankie's point, if money played any, like gave him any thought process, it's the worst thing in the history of sports. Like, if, if money was a factor at all, it is literally the worst thing in the whole game of sport. I would love to know how much,
Starting point is 00:26:44 how much that's factored in. I mean, I think we've asked guys on this very show, like, are they thinking about it? They said yes. Like you're always thinking about it. Um, but is Louis thinking about that when he literally has the tournament, the championship on his, at his feet with a chip, with a chip or a shot from the rough? I'd hope to, I'd hope the answer is no. I think in that moment, Louis, no. I think zero percent did it factor. Yeah. I agree. I just looked it up. Louis made, Louis made 25 million bucks on the tour. Yeah. And that's also, it's the, the difference is, between second and third, and obviously he probably would have, like, maybe tied for the whatever, but the difference between second and third is like $500,000.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, also, people were tied for third. Pretty decent cash. Yeah. Decent cash. But no, I'm going to be, I'm firmly on the side that Louis Euse is and was just trying to tie that golf tournament up the best way that he could.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I would have loved to see him go for it. Like, you know what? I know what you're saying, Riggs, but, like, for the, like, for the, like, competitive and the person that wants to watch the most drama, I'd rather see that ball go right in the water because he fucking tried to go for something crazy. Like, you have to. That's a magical moment.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Like what Lurch is saying to me makes a little bit more sense. I know stats probably say no, but that's one of those moments where it's like stats go out the window and like, let's just see if the heavens and the gods can take this ball onto the green. Because we've already fucked up. We put the ball in the fucking canyon on 17. We didn't make the put when we should have.
Starting point is 00:28:16 We're down by two now. We got to do something. we have to do something like out of out of body out of mind not not by the not by the stats not by the scott playbook this is scott faucet lost on 17 green when i miss that fucking put now it's up to like the heavens and the gods that's what that's my point is like just make something happen or even push it into that bunker i would rather see him try and just hold one out from a bunker than i would from 110 yards out on the fairway like i know that like rom didn't go after the pin because it's basically impossible to hold it from that position.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But just like, I just think you get more spin. You're closer. You have a little bit more of a chance. I just didn't like that play. It was way too safe. Way too safe. Rahm was also on a downslip too. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:57 His bunker shot. So, like, maybe he lands on an upslope, anything. I agree. Frank, like, you're a top, what, 25 player in the world or whatever he is? Like, can you get up and down from 240 or the water covering in the front? You can't. Go for it. Don't hit a wedge.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's like, I was infuriated by that. But the golf book is going to The golf book is going to say do what he did. I'm just saying like, fuck, throw it away for a second. Well, then we're just saying the tournament's lost by the missed tea shot, which is even worse than like where he was actually missed by it. It was lost by the putt. He had a great recovery shot after he dropped.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And he has an uphill put that he just fucking, it's just never had a chance. He holds a couple of those five footers though all day. So it was like, he was getting testy off the tea. as soon as he knew he had to lead and then there was the big roar because Ron made a huge hole on 17 made that bomb and like
Starting point is 00:29:54 he looked he looked sensitive down the stretch it didn't look like he was just nails all the way going through so he's a to me he's a fantastic putter I think he's always been and it was funny to hear the commentators constantly say he does like to move the ball left to right they continuously drilled that into your head
Starting point is 00:30:10 because any time the call the shot called for a right to left they're like oh he's just going to go to the middle of the green here because he cannot move the ball right to left. And all I was thinking was like, oh, man, he's got to be thinking, like, do not put this ball right to left on this T-Bow, this T-on-18. And the ball really did not move left to right as much as he wanted to on that 18th T-shot.
Starting point is 00:30:29 He kind of got fucked. Like, the ball just stopped, and that's why it stayed in the rough. So, and we saw this guy in the match play. He fucking, on the T-box, he put it into the water, and he lost it for his partner. So maybe the guy doesn't have the stones on the T. I mean, it's the sixth time he's finished runner-up. That's brutal for our guy, Louis.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Ustahuz and that's absolutely brutal he doesn't have stones it is it's a sixth runner-up in a major um which is he's he's he's the 13th player oh in history with six or more and this was um i believe this was from j ray who said uh i know uh i can't remember this was the j ray satir anyways he's the sixth uh the 13 player was six runner-ups or more um the other 12 have a combined 95 major titles. He's got his one. So, like, the people that finish run up in majors all the time just win a billion majors. And Louis, I mean, he has his one.
Starting point is 00:31:24 He won at the old course. It's extremely cool. It was 11 years ago. But, yeah, you got to feel for him a little bit. It wasn't like he played badly. It's like Rom made two absolute bombs on him. And if he didn't, Louis just wins, he just wins the U.S. Open. So, you know, that's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Very unfortunate for him. When you guys were watching Rom and the, bunker on 18 where you like where's this guy going because I was like this guy's playing scared I was I stood up I said he's playing scared he's going way too right this guy acts like I mean Louis Hustazen has two holes to go you're not going to win this tournament this championship but only being up one like you have to try and make this up and down and fucking he still makes that put it was he he completely shoved it up my hoop I've never in my life would have thought that he was going to make an up and down from where he ended up out of that bunker it was way too
Starting point is 00:32:13 way too plain and safe for me. That's when you realize, though, how good these guys are. It's like the fact that he's like, no, like from 18 feet, I make 48% of pups. Like I'm 50 or whatever the number is. It's like, I was like, dude, you can't go right there. But in the U.S. Open, it's not like your standard golf tournament where people are making birdies every hole. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:35 They're four under after the weekend. It's like you're going one under every round. so it was conservative. I think at that moment he was very much playing for a playoff and saying, hey, I've got to score in. But yeah, that was, yeah, it was such a good finish. He also, like, there's water now there.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So, like, if he goes to the pin with, you know, and hits it in the water, it's like, I think he just did exactly what he was supposed to do, which is, like, give yourself some kind of look. And if you make it cool, if not, you're in it, you're in at five under, and there's a good chance you're in a playoff, which he would have been.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So, but yeah, it was, like, On TV, you can never see the undulations. Everybody knows that, like the slopes and all that. So, yeah, it looked like, because we could see the bunker shot. We watched a bunker shot. Didn't see the putt in real time. But, like, the way he's aiming, you are, if you haven't been watching all day, you're like, wait, wait, wait, like, he's just trying not to, like,
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Starting point is 00:36:15 This is the Justin Race that I was looking for earlier. The last player to birdie the last two holes to win the U.S. Open was Tom Watson in 1982. Wow. Been a bit. Been a long time. Been a very long time. So amazing work, obviously, by ROM. This is a sixth PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:36:34 win. He gets $2.25 million for winning. It's obviously not lost on people that he, you know, he took the high road when the, you know, the whole situation happened at Memorial a couple weeks ago, got himself healthy, got over Corona, came out and won't. So huge shout out to John Rom. Hopefully we'll get him on at some point. It'd be very cool. We have said many times that he's, you know, comes off like a certified crazy person. I'll never forget the moment at TBC Sawgrass a few years ago and he just overruled his caddy, tried to hit some crazy shot on the 11th hole, hit it into the water, and then just melted down and lost the tournament. But that's why they call it, that's why they call it a learning experience.
Starting point is 00:37:12 That ball, that ball at TBC Sawgrass landed as in the middle of the water as it possibly could. But he was like, no, no, no, this is going to work out fine. I'm smarter than you caddy, hits it. And I really do think it hit the center of that lake. And it was just the wrong call. But yeah, I mean, I would love to have ROM on the show. we've called him a walking time bomb.
Starting point is 00:37:34 We've said that he needs to get like a person who defuses bombs as his mental coach. I think he has one of that. Yeah. He has been there, done that, pal. Yeah. So, I mean, he's obviously super interesting cat.
Starting point is 00:37:47 We would love to have him on the show. Yeah. Did you see when Ustey missed the fairway? They panned a rob. He gave the biggest psycho smile I've ever seen. He has that in him, man. He's got a little bit of lunatic in him, but I think he's just an eccentric person.
Starting point is 00:38:02 and like he's going to wear his emotions on his sleeve. At one point, and I said this in the beginning of the show, at one point I used to root for that to happen. I'm not going to lie. I still kind of do. I would love to see him absolutely just explode on the golf course. Like if he could just helicopter a club off into the canyon, like that would have been electric, just as electric as I'm winning.
Starting point is 00:38:21 To me, I don't care of a fuck. But it's been fun to watch him succeed. Is this guy number one in the world yet? Has he surpassed Dustin Johnson with this win? Yes. I think they, I saw that he's projected to go to. to number one now. I mean, he is the best player in the world. There's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Prior to every single major championship, I get a text from one of my buddies and he'll always go Rambo this week. And I just always say no chance. This guy has to not compete. He has to, there's no, he's going to miss a cut at some point. There's no chance
Starting point is 00:38:54 this guy finishes top 10. I did it at the Masters. I did it before this week. I said there's no way Rambo is going to do this. And what do you fucking do? He always shows up. I would love to you know what, I'm going to look up what his finishing stats are in his last like eight majors. The guy is
Starting point is 00:39:10 nails. He is. He absolutely is and there's a reason he's number one. I mean, he's just, he too like the way his swing, you know, he's got the super short swing, but man, it just looks like nothing can go wrong. Like it looks like it's all so compact, it's so
Starting point is 00:39:25 I don't even want to say simple because it's not like simple what he does, but for him it looks simple and repeatable. and powerful, and he's got those tree trunks and that, like, Coke bottle of a body that just absolutely moves the ball out there. And, yeah, of course he won the US Open. So, congrats to John Rom. Extremely impressive. The streaker. We're going to talk about the streaker real quick. So there's a streaker on 13 when, like, Bryson was in the fairway trying to, you know, figure out what he was going to do, hit a shot. Strieker runs out there in, you know, like pride colors and all that,
Starting point is 00:39:59 which we support, and then takes a couple swings. And the first swing, I got to tell you, was extremely impressive. Good rhythm, really good acceleration through the ball, sneaky, good speed. It looked like flushed it. To jump out there like that and hit the ball like that, I thought was very impressive. Yeah, no, it was a great swing. And when it first happened, and shout out to Bones McKay, who did a great, like, off-camera, play-by-play, because they don't show those guys.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They don't want to, you know, give them the time of day or their 15 seconds of fame or whatever. Great stuff from bones to like break it down in a way that we all understood. And I had a couple of people tweeting me being like, oh, is that you out there, Trent? Because I obviously took the swing on 15 with Kisner. And then I saw the video and I was like, this is definitely not me because that guy has a pretty amazing swing for a guy who ran out there. The adrenaline had to be pumping because he had just decided to run out onto a U.S. Open golf course and hit a couple of shots. He has a great swing. He just has a really nice swing, I thought.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah. I thought that. So what happens to those people? That guy go to jail for like a day or two? Yeah, I think so. It was pretty funny to see him try and evade the guy on the golf cart, and he just did, he did not see that for see that coming. Like that guy in that golf cart was fantastic at being a security guard.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Fantastic. This kid that I played college lacrosse with, if you go to YouTube and type DAC attack Storms Fenway, he is one of the most outrageous run-around Fenway things I've ever seen, where he literally goes from one side of the outfield to the other, and he got one night in jail, and then he was out. So give that to YouTube because it is the most exceptional sprint in the history of sport.
Starting point is 00:41:40 But yeah, I think it's just one night in jail. You know what's funny, Frankie, is we literally were talking about this at Kew when we talked about on the podcast how we were talking about, oh, how great the fans are and how, you know, it's crazy that more stuff doesn't happen where a drunk guy runs onto the field or runs onto the course, and sure enough, at the next major it happens. Yeah, and I'm still like today, there was one point where I said it again when I was watching it. Louis was hitting a shot.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Actually, I think it was his shot that he was laying up on. Oh, no, it was his fucking wed shot to try and tie the championship. And everyone was just dead silent. They were screaming, Louie, right before it. And they all just stopped for the biggest moment of the night, the biggest moment of the entire week. And they're just like, let's just wait for this to happen before we continue to be drunk and obnoxious and screaming. Let's just wait for this incredible moment to go. We're going to all follow the rules, all politely.
Starting point is 00:42:31 We're going to have manners. And then after he strikes the golf ball, we will then scream. I just don't understand how we as a society do that. We can't do anything as a society. We literally can't. People are running around the streets naked. There is no society. But at golf courses, it's like people just follow the rules.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It's preposterous. John Rom. John Rom. I'm sorry. It's very surprising. Oh, go ahead. Wait. Are you going to continue with this guy who fucking ran off the golf
Starting point is 00:42:57 course. No, I wasn't. I, you know, I'll say generally I'm not crazy about streakers. You know, it's just, I don't really, I don't know, people get really excited about it. It sort of dominates the coverage. It doesn't, the streaking thing doesn't really do it for me. I don't know. I don't really get it. I don't, I don't get the excitement, to be honest. Am I under the wrong impression that, am I under the, yeah, am I under the impression the wrong impression that you have to be naked to be considered a streaker? No, I think that's right. well they announced the streaker on the on the golf course um but then i think they just may have gotten that wrong right i think you have to be naked everyone is calling this guy is streaker not an intruder
Starting point is 00:43:36 or a trespasser or what are you i guess it's probably just easier to blanket everyone that runs onto a field or or or thing like that is a streaker but i thought you had to be naked to be a streaker really strange to say i'm going to go run on this professional sports venue like this field and i'm going to take all my clothes off and i want i want everyone to look at my little people Like, you know, they're always like a soft, flaccid dick and like really weird bodies with the skinny legs. Just be like me running out there. Like, nah. On that same.
Starting point is 00:44:04 It's like, why are you, why are you? I get what you're doing and trying to get attention, but why are you naked, dude? On that same thing. Why are you talking balls out? No, I know. But like, why do the guys choose to pull their cock and balls out? That's what I want to know. I feel like streaking is more like, that's like a label the college thing.
Starting point is 00:44:21 But now, like, streaking is just like, if you run. through a sports field is streaking. Like the running aspect is kind of streaking more than naked. I think like soccer stadiums get a lot of naked streakers. Like I think that's a thing that happens. Do they? I think, oh yeah. Yeah. I think it's less of a leap to run naked than it is to run at all.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Do you know what I mean? Like the the act of deciding to run is crazier than than ripping off all of your clothes. Like I think if you're going to run, you might as well. rip off all your clothes. See, like, that's the part that I don't get. Why does, there's got to be something in your brain where, like, I'm doing something that I got to rip off my clothes for.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It's such a rush. Dude. That this guy's like, dude, I didn't take my dick out. You got to, you got to get your money's worth. If you're like, I'm going to jail. But my point is, is that money's worth? No. I don't know. I don't get where the, is it like a thing, a dopamine thing
Starting point is 00:45:20 in your brain? Do they show, do they just pull up the video of the bar for the rest of their life? look what I did on like I don't get I don't get the reward I guess there's a huge risk you go to jail what is the reward you're never going to look good doing it too this kid that I went to college with I think he didn't like high school and you can see him go through like the mental steps to think I'm going to do this I'm going to streak across benway but in order to get that story out of him he didn't even really promote it like I went to school of them for three years and I heard
Starting point is 00:45:51 about it on the third year. So I think at that point he was a little maybe this was the wrong step in my life. But he videotapes a whole thing where he's like going through the decision and then he's like I'm going and he runs down the steps takes off across Benway.
Starting point is 00:46:08 He jukes like three security and then he gets tackled by the last guy jumping back into the outfit. You also got to think that the charges get elevated if you're naked. Have to. Yeah. So that would make it. You can catch a fucking, you can catch a real ticket if you're like,
Starting point is 00:46:25 if you expose yourself on like a sidewalk, I set a bar, just like taking a piss or something. Imagine like in front of 18,000 people. Right. They'll put you on a list. Can I talk about just real quick? Like I know we all know John Rom is an incredible golfer, but when you just go through his finishes at championship venues for majors,
Starting point is 00:46:45 it is preposterous. U.S. Open 2021. First place. PGA Championship, eighth place. 2021 Masters, fifth place. 2020 Masters, seventh place. U.S. Open at Wingfoot, he finished in 23rd place. Ho-hum, like, I mean, still top 25, just didn't play well.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Then you go back to the PJ Championship at Harding Park, 13th place. The guy is always in the mix. 2019, you go back. Masters Championship, ninth place. US Open, third place. The Open Championship, 11th place. Does John Rom ever not show up to a major championship? I've listed three years of major championships.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Does he ever just be like, I didn't have it this week, and I just got cut? I mean, you can go through any other guy. I mean, I would like to compare that to Dustin Johnson, number one in the world. Rom has to be firing at a higher clip than him. Has to be. Yeah. Oh, absolutely, especially because DJs like Ms. Cots this year in majors. At least I know he did for the Masters.
Starting point is 00:47:40 So, man, that's impressive. That is an impressive streak from him. Those numbers are the boston. No wonder I picked him to win, you know, I guess. We should be betting this guy top 10. Every single week. Every single week. He's 26 he was old too.
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Starting point is 00:49:07 Let's go through a few of the other golfers, Rory McElroy. He had a run going. He had people fired up. He ended up finishing, I believe, what, one under for the tournament. He was two over for the day. He finished tied for seventh. He again had it going until the 11th hole. He made a bogey.
Starting point is 00:49:27 12th hole. He made a double. 13. He came back with a birdie, but then 16. He made a bogey and, like I said, finished at 100 par. I saw Rory in the little alleyway that we keep walking in maybe 30 minutes ago, 40 minutes ago, whenever right before we started recording. And I just said, as he's walking by,
Starting point is 00:49:46 I said, great run, Rory, and he gave me the most genuine thank you. I think any human being has ever given me, where he was like, he didn't stop and chat, but he just, as we walked by, I looked back and may eye contact, and with a very disheartened look on his face clearly because he had just come up short. He said, thank you. And, like, I've never seen a human mean it that much more. But, man, that guy, he, I don't know, he's had it going so many times. I'm not going to call this a backdoor top ten because he was right there,
Starting point is 00:50:13 but he ended up tied for seventh when he was. you know, one shot off the lead and four under par as people were making the turn. But just kind of came undone yet again, Roy McElroy. It was a roller coaster day. When it started, I saw the outfit that he was wearing, and I tweeted out that I can picture him winning in that outfit. Some guys just have that outfit on where you can picture them holding the trophy, going back and forth, all the cameras are flashing in their face. So I felt good about Rory early on.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And then by the end of the round, it got to the point where we've been with Rory many of times where I didn't want to watch him putt anymore. I cannot watch him putt anymore. They kept showing him and he was still sort of in and it too under, but it was kind of getting away from him and, you know, people were at five under, six under. It didn't look like it was going to happen. And it got to the point where he would just put and I knew it wasn't going in and I wanted to stop watching it. And I hate that. As a huge Rory guy, I wanted him to win. It's been seven years. We talk about it all the time on this show since he won a major. But I felt good about it early on. he was playing well and then he just played like shit and i'm glad that he
Starting point is 00:51:14 genuinely gave you a thank you but i would prefer that he would lift a fucking u.s open trophy and win one of these things it just sucks he he really did have a little bit of a swagger front nine you know he's one under for the front nine and he's won back at one point he made a great pot on four um and it looked like he just had things rolling he's he's strung together a lot of good pars and then on the back nine you look at it he starts the back nine with a par on 10 and then he goes bogey and then double on 12 like it's it's it's it's absolute blowups that get to Rory Macaroie how do you go three over in two holes on the back stretch where you need to you need to step on the gas at that point and even then when Rory was on like 15 16 17 18 the announcers and everyone
Starting point is 00:52:00 watching is like holy shit Rory still is in this thing I mean he birdies uh what did he do he you know he ended up birding 13 you're like okay Rory's like kind of back in this three back four back 18, we talked about that. It's a hole that everyone can fucking either birdie or maybe even eagle. Roy's still in this. And he goes in bogey 16 and his hopes are over. His hopes and dreams are over. The guy cannot putt when it matters.
Starting point is 00:52:23 The last seven years, he can't sink the putts when it matters. He's striking the ball phenomenally. He's one of the best drivers of the golf ball in the world. The guy can't putt. I don't know if he can't putt or he can't read the greens. I mean, his putts aren't even close. They don't even lip out. They're not even close.
Starting point is 00:52:39 He misses the ball. He misses the whole completely. I disagree with some of that. I mean, like, to Riggs, to your point of him saying, like, thank you, he's the best guy at being, like, even, like, when we had some small interactions this week, he was genuine about, like, everything that he said. Now, he's still never been on the podcast. So, like, how genuine is he about those comments? But, Frankie, on 13, that's a par five, he ripped that three wood, whatever, to the dead middle of the green and just missed that pot for Eagle. I mean, I don't think his putts were outrageous.
Starting point is 00:53:12 There were a couple outrageous ones. Early, maybe, but. But that put on 13, that put for the Eagle bid was a phenomenal put. Right. You were just talking negatively about 13. No, I'm saying he finally got it back. I said, like, that was the hole where we're like, all right, let's do it. No, it was on 16 where he made a bogey on a par three.
Starting point is 00:53:30 That was just, it was a horrible, horrible hole. And then he couldn't get it done on 14 and 15. He just can't get any momentum It looks like he's about to get momentum And everyone in the world is on his side It's like Rory McElroy is that Tiger Woods name He's the guy that's been there He knows how to do it
Starting point is 00:53:46 And he can never just turn on that final jet He can never go into that last final gear And just shove it down people's throats He misses puts He misses greens He just can't get it done It's always in that final stretch with him Yeah so I'm looking right now
Starting point is 00:54:05 like, man, if you go back, you know, he hasn't won a major clearly since 2014 is well documented. Dude, 2015, he finished fourth of the Masters, tied for ninth of the US Open. 2016. Tied for 10th of the Masters, tied for fifth at the Open Championship. 2017. Tied for seventh of the Masters, tied for fourth at the Open Championship. 2018, tied for fifth at the Masters, tied for second of the Open Championship. 2019, tied for eighth, tied for ninth, and two majors. 2020 tied for fifth, tied for eight. Those are all top tens and majors since 2014 when he's done.
Starting point is 00:54:39 That's like a Rombostat right there. That was phenomenal. It's crazy. It's crazy how good that is, but he just isn't winning one. And you know that that's adding up. He's a very perceptive guy. He reads stuff. He talks about how he tries to think Zenlik, tries to change his approach.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So he's aware of it when he gets into those moments. He appears like he's got the swagger. He's won a player championship in that time. but he's just not getting it done. And like, like you said, Frank, like, he's too good to be making like doubles and shit when he's in contention, like a bogey and then a double when he finally gets himself into a contention. In a tournament where I don't think people weren't making a ton of double bogeys that we're being honest. So, yeah, it's just, it's just tough.
Starting point is 00:55:21 It's hard because you want him to win. He has that tiger-like stardom. Like, you can sense it out here when you're sitting on a hole watching for 45 minutes, and then all of a sudden a swarm of people arrive. and usually within minutes Rory McElroy comes walking down the fairway because he draws a gigantic crowd. So, yeah, everybody's rooting for him,
Starting point is 00:55:39 and he's very genuine, and I think he gave me a very genuine thank you and gave us very genuine reactions all week, but we genuinely like him to win a fucking major championship. He finished 58th in strokes gained putting on Sunday alone. I mean, when you're trying to win a championship, you cannot finish 58th in strokes game putting. You have to make putts. He was above the average of the entire field and putting this week.
Starting point is 00:56:03 It's like Rory McElroy, I genuinely would love to know, and I don't know if it's a coach question or if it's a Rory question, if he would ever admit that. But what has happened in his career or to him as a player? Is it reading of the greens? Like I said, it always seems like he does not know where they're going to break, or is it the actual stroke? Because a guy of Rory McElroy's ability and stature and the amount of practice that
Starting point is 00:56:27 guy puts in, you're telling me it's a stroke issue. you don't think that guy puts in enough work for like getting a feel for how to put a golf ball. It's got to be something about the process on prior to the put. He doesn't even come close, guys. I agree with you. You have very little confidence in him a lot when he stands over. And it's not like the putt on 13. That's like a good lag putt, whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It's like the putts that you feel like he's right on that line of like, okay, a few of you should go in around. Like here we go. this isn't a guarantee, but this is a nine-footer, let's go. Like, a lot of times they don't even sniff the hole. You're just like, all right, again. And you would think somebody is as good as he is. Like, he would be better with that thing.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Is that a little bit of carryover from him when it was him and Reed in the final round? Or like, do you really think that he putted terribly in this last round? I didn't think he putted horribly, horribly in this last round. He didn't try to just say he's 58th. 58th and strokes game. putting and Ron was 10th. I mean, the difference there is... This week? This week. No, on Sunday alone. Final round. He just said that.
Starting point is 00:57:35 John Ron was 10th in strokes gained putting on Sunday alone. Rory McElroy, 58th. At one point, they were both tied for the championship. That's a 48 person difference in the ability of putting on a Sunday. That's going to lose you the championship. With his putting, the good is pretty good and the bad is really fucking bad. Yeah. That's... I agree with that, too. That was my feel of it when I was watching the him today. That's what I would say. Yeah, and I looked, he's 68th for the year in strokes game putting on the PGAT tour. So, you know, that's not horrific overall, but for somebody who's, you know, top, should be a top three to five player in the world, it feels like at all
Starting point is 00:58:17 times, to be 68th in a part where everybody says, you know, drive for show, put for dough, you'd like it to be a little better than that. You'd like it to be a little better. I agree. You know, well, also makes me nervous over putts sometimes nowadays. The short ones especially is Colin Moracawa. They just sometimes, he's, there's an issue there. For a guy who's as put together as he is and as polished as he is, he gets those shorter putts.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And we've seen it a few times over the course of his short career where it's a little too much time over the put and then it doesn't go in. And it's like, fuck, man. Brutal. Talk about a guy that goes flag hunting from the fairway. I mean, Calla Moracawa, I don't think I've ever seen a guy land a ball. next to the flag as much as that guy, or like right over the hole where he zips it back. I mean, that guy with his approach shots and his iron shots and wedges and anything,
Starting point is 00:59:08 basically what we did the tailor-made video from, like 80 to 100 yards, those shots onto the green are dynamite. They're actually like disgusting how good he is at that. So Colin Moracawa, strokes gained approach to the green is first on the PTA. Yeah, I mean, come on. It's phenomenal. That sounds right. So his strokes gained on approach shot for the year is 69.86.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So over the course of the season so far, he has picked up almost 70 strokes on the rest of the PGA tour just in the category of approach shots. And the next closest is Justin Thomas, who's picked up 46. So he's at 70, and Justin Thomas is at 46. He is like, boys, he is like light years ahead of everyone else in the PGA Tour when it comes to iron play. So there's a reason you're seeing him just drop balls next to pins all the time. It's because he's just so good at it. It's one of those things where you have to look around when you're watching and be like, is anyone watching what this guy's attempting to do?
Starting point is 01:00:12 He tries to drain him from 120 yards out, and he comes pretty damn close. But yeah, I think Collins, I mean, he's so young too. We give Rory a hard time with the putting because the guy was a phenom. He was the biggest guy in the world. It's been seven years since he won a championship, since he won a major. Kalamorakawa just won it hard.
Starting point is 01:00:33 You know, this guy is, he's still up and coming, as crazy as that sounds. Kalamorakawa is. He's super fucking young. I don't know what his age actually is. What is he? Like, 24. 24.
Starting point is 01:00:46 24. Okay, so like, I just think at that point, like the little putts and stuff. Like, we, we can give Kalamorakaa some time to gain some confidence on those five foot, six foot comebackers, those par putts, those kneading birdies coming down the stretch. I mean, Kalamorakaa is fucking still a rookie. 24 years old. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. So I'm not, I'm not writing home yet about Kalamorakawa. You know what? You know what, Trent, he gives me, he gives me Lee Westwood over short put vibes. Yeah. And it's, it's, remember when he lost to Kentland that. playoff. That was a really short fucking putt. I think that's stuck in my mind. And now whenever I see him over short putts, and he missed at least one today. It's just, that was one thing that's stuck in my head.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yeah. No, I feel you on that. I'm not, I'm not necessarily taking it to the bank when that guy's got like a five-footer, especially in something like the U.S. Open. But, but yeah, I mean, Morikawa, he's sick. His iron play is to die for it to be able to hit irons like that. I can't hit. I mean, I was thinking about, like, how often you think you hit the green with, like, a five iron or lower? Five iron, four iron, three iron, whatever. Like, what do you think your percentage is on actually hitting, like, a green in regulation with a club like that? I don't think I've hit the green with a three wood in the last, I don't think I've ever hit a green with a three wood. Ever.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I think, I don't know that I have. I would say one in five, one in four, five. I don't attempt it to say that I've never done it once. Oh, yeah, no, I was talking. No, I know. He said five iron or worse. You just said to the worst club, and you can take out of your bag.
Starting point is 01:02:28 But, yeah, I think three woods, one out of every 15, maybe? You only get so many three wood cracks. What do you think, Frank? You get a lot. I think I'm zero three wood. I think I'm maybe one out of 15 with a hybrid. And then when you start going four iron, five iron,
Starting point is 01:02:47 one out of every nine, eight. I mean, that's a fucking poke. Gee, what do you think? You're talking 210-yard four irons. You think I'm going, like, I'm talking 10, 15% to hit that green? Was that a sarcastic question? No, I just want to know what he think. Oh, oh, in terms of you guys?
Starting point is 01:03:06 No, in terms of, well, both. I mean, I'm a hard zero. Has Lurch ever, have you ever played golf with this? Dude, I can't hit my irons, dude. You know how we're trying it's a good three wood. You're asking him for like percentage. You're asking us for like percentages of four irons on to green. Like it's zero.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It's zero. It's like we're, we don't hit greens. I mean, with a five wood, it's definitely zero. What are we doing? With a four iron or five iron,
Starting point is 01:03:33 I mean, I'm, I'm just starting to try to hit these things as well as I can. It's, it's tough, man. It's just tough for me to hit an iron. So T,
Starting point is 01:03:42 I would even say your three woods better than your iron. It's like your four and five iron. I would say your three wood's better. better be. I'm certainly more confident. That's like a layup or something off the tee, but like to hit a green with a three wood? Like, I hit a green I'll tell you this. I hit a green with a three wood at Aaron Hills during my magical round. That is the only time I maybe done that in my life. It was a miracle shot. A lot of people listening to this show probably struggle to hit her. A lot of
Starting point is 01:04:09 people listening to the show probably struggle to hit fucking greens and regulations on, you know, a round basis. I think if you took the average golf, that listens to this show and said how many greens did you hit four iron and bigger of a club? I think the answer is like one or zero across the board. Dude, I'm telling it. For the day, I mean, if I know, if I pull a four iron, okay, and I got a perfect lie in the fair way. I'm even on a T-box. I get to tee it up perfectly.
Starting point is 01:04:38 If I pull a four-iron, I know in my brain there is no chance this thing ends up on the green. None. In fact, I'm looking at like, all right, I'm doing like decade golf times 30 of like, where up in that vicinity of this golf course? Can I strike this fucking tiny little, little knife in my hands? Shout out Frankie. And get it on land somewhere near that little putting surface where I can have a chance at a par and maybe a bogey. That is like, that is best case scenario. And let's say I strike it good and I feel good about it.
Starting point is 01:05:12 That thing's coming in hot. Like I don't get air My irons don't get up that high At least not right now Like when I hit a good one When I catch a four iron Or I catch a five iron I feel good about it
Starting point is 01:05:23 That thing's screaming It's on a roller coaster Screaming So like it's just Hard to get air under those At least for a guy like me I did hit the green I did hit a green at Torrey Pines
Starting point is 01:05:37 When we played Number six I hit a drive And then I drilled a green With a four iron Or maybe the best warrant I've ever hit and I had an eagle bid, missed that, but tapped them for a birdie. But yeah, I mean, it happens once every eight or nine attempts, which is bad percentages,
Starting point is 01:05:52 which is why we do not play pretty, we don't play good golf. But I don't think the average golfer really is hitting that many greens with a four or three, three wood anyway. But, Lurch, you're a great iron player. So that's, I think you are certainly at a higher clip than the rest of us on the show. Yeah, but maybe not. T, I actually wasn't saying that in like a negative light by any means. I actually think you hit a pretty good, like, little cut three wood.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I don't think you hit a good four-hand at all. Like, I would say your percentage there are low. But when Frankie was saying, like, I hit, I don't know, whatever numbers he said, I was actually thinking, like, Trent, I think you hit maybe like, you know, when you pull that thing, like one out of 12 green. Which club are you talking? Three wood. Man, I mean, I'm rarely in a position where, you hit that thing from like one night.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I'm rarely in a position where I'm hitting a three-wood that. is going to land on the green. And we're talking greens of regulation. So you think like how often is, how often that we? I guess I wasn't thinking that. I was thinking more just like greens. Like, because T might have. Oh, at some point you're going to get on the green.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Yeah, for sure. Right. But if he pulls three one, I'm saying like when that's the club of choice for him, no matter where he is, like what are the chances he gets it on the green when he pulls it? I was thinking like, yeah, one out of 12, one out of 13. Again, that puppy is screaming like the irons too. We're all getting there. We're all getting better.
Starting point is 01:07:08 We're all just trying, you know? We can't start putting our stats up against. these fucking guys or else it's just going to be a bloodbath. I mean, I'm going through the USG EA's website and just the numbers that they, like, all these stroke gains and the amount of putts that they hit, like in a tournament. And like, I mean, Rory had a horrible day today, which, I mean, Lerf's thought he putted lights out for some reason. But he had 32 puts today. I would take 32 puts in a fucking heartbeat.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Oh, yeah. You kidding me? Yeah. 32 months? It's pretty good. That's actually really good. For them it's terrible, but that's also because they chip it so close, and they hit irons like pretty damn close.
Starting point is 01:07:47 So for them, like that, anything over like 30, I'd like they're rattle about, but for a normal player to have, to have, like Lurch said, for most people, if you're less than 36, you're like, all right, boys, good day out there. Really good day. What would you guys say your average putts per round is? The stats, clearly for them are quite different. I don't know, my putts per round, I think. think would be a little lower, but I think putting is the best part of my game, so it's similar
Starting point is 01:08:15 to, like, lurch with the irons, where it's like you're going to hit greens more. I'm looking right now, like the PGA Tour average in terms of green and regulation percentage from 200 plus yards, there's only 20 guys on the PGA Tour that average over 50%. I don't know how to put that, wait, I don't know how to put that number into anything that I can understand. Wait, what was it again? there's only 20 guys on the entire PGA tour who from 200 yards and farther average over 50% greens and regulation hit. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:56 So we're in good company. Yeah. That means that we're close to zero. That just goes to my point. I know I came off a little like assholy with the way I asked you if you've ever played with this, but it's like true. It's like, I mean, we're one or two around if we're lucky. The number is very minute.
Starting point is 01:09:14 It's a, it's a, it's a ridiculously small percentage of numbers of us hitting greens and regulation with three woods and four irons. Right. No, and I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm saying like one out of 10, one out of 15 in that range is about accurate. Which is what? Which is like 3%? 2%, I mean.
Starting point is 01:09:33 10% on the high end? I think that's insane. There's no way I'm at a 10% clip, man. No way. I don't think we're much worse than 15 to 1 What's your answer on how many putts you've had you average? I probably average 39 to 40 puts around
Starting point is 01:09:54 That's so bad It's crazy I mean What's the tour average of putts per round Didn't we look this up the other day? What was it? Or maybe we did average putts per round
Starting point is 01:10:09 It is Maybe like 27 or something. I'm seeing a lot of 27s. Well, that looks like the leader. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Puts' pronunciation's average 28.94. Oh, wow. That is fucking elite.
Starting point is 01:10:27 That is fucking elite. I got to be, I mean, I got to be over 40. Have to be. 41, I'm going to say, because maybe some rounds I'm 35. I'm putting lights out. And then other rounds, I'm 48. Like, I got to be right there in that. that 41 range.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Have to be. I'm going to start keeping track of that shit. Yeah, it is fun to keep track of. Like, we really should. That idea, you know, we came up for trend,
Starting point is 01:10:52 but we should all just do it and keep all of our hardcore stats. It would be very funny. My guess would be I'd be low 30s. Like, I just miss a lot of green, but I'd chip it decently close and make a decent amount of butt, so I would guess low 30s.
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Starting point is 01:13:07 But he opened up a lot. seen it went pretty viral about, you know, about mental health. I loved that he came in and said, I think after maybe Friday's round, he said, to be honestly, I just expected to finish dead last this week and had like no expectations. He spoke a lot about, you know, mental health about how it's way more important to, you know, wake up every day happy and excited about whatever you're going to do than it is to be, you know, grinding and focused on golf. He talked about how months ago, you know, he was just walking down the fairways,
Starting point is 01:13:36 basically with his head down, not in a good place, not happy, not excited, not anything, and that's why he decided to step away from golf for a few months. Something anybody can relate to, no matter if you're a successful golfer, you made a good amount of money and you're kind of a celebrity or whether you're just an average person like anybody, and everybody can suffer from mental health from trying to find happiness. As we all know, like I said, it's extremely relatable. Everybody goes through phases or significantly worse than just phases.
Starting point is 01:14:02 So I thought him being open and honest about that was maybe as endearing and likely, of a thing in interviews as I've seen in a long time. Yeah, it was awesome to see. And what's interesting that people often don't think about and something I definitely didn't used to think about was that with success, like you'd think the more successful you become, the less anxiety you'll have,
Starting point is 01:14:26 the less like problems you'll have in your life, the more money, right? All these things come with just being happy. And a lot of times you see that it's, Frank. Yeah, more money more problems is fucking true, man. Like, you know, all, maybe something that was inside Matthew Woll. and maybe he never really noticed it because he was in college and high school and he was the best player on his team and he was, you know, with all his friends.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And all of a sudden all this pressure comes along and you have, you have sponsors and you have to make money and like you have to pay all these bills and you're buying houses and you have to perform. And like I'm not saying that like that stuff directly results in like anxiety and depression. But sometimes when you have a lot of success, you know, things just come out that you didn't know that we're there. And you see that a lot and actors and baseball players and baseball players. and hockey players and golfers. It's crazy. It's hard to sometimes deal with the fame and the pressure. So shout out to him for being able to speak about it
Starting point is 01:15:18 because that is a, you know, it's a problem that a lot of people go through that probably are afraid to talk about, to be honest. Yeah, success certainly creates, you know, it gives you all those things that you listen, Frankie, but it also creates expectations. And then you start thinking about those all the time, and then you sort of lose out in your love of the game
Starting point is 01:15:37 and you sort of start thinking, like, why am I doing this? What am I doing it for? And we briefly spoke with Matthew Wolfe. What day was that? Was that Wednesday? Just right off the 6th D and he just seemed happier and lighter. And he was like, yeah, I took a little bit of time off, but I'm feeling better about my game. And he had, you know, playing well early on in the tournament. I think he shot 73, 74, maybe Saturday, Sunday.
Starting point is 01:16:00 But yeah, whatever he needs to do to get right, he should absolutely do. And it sounds like he's done that. And if he's just happier playing, it doesn't matter if he finished his first or last, or whatever, as long as he's happier and in a better mental spot, good on him. Dude, tied for 15th, like, T-15 for a guy that hadn't played in months. Like, think about how much raw talent he has to come out. You know, he's clearly probably, like, nervous. He hasn't played in a long time.
Starting point is 01:16:23 He's probably, you know, a little bit, like, nervous about being embarrassed. He knows that, like, people are going to be asking them questions because he hasn't been out there in a few months. And he comes out at a U.S. Open venue where it's playing hard and finish is tied for 15th. Like, that's amazing. Yeah. Bro, he's 22. He also played with Rahm in the final day, right? Didn't he play with Rom today?
Starting point is 01:16:42 Yeah, he was with Rob today. So just got a first-hand seat to, you know, a champion, like ex-gidone and that coming from behind and winning. And Trent, yeah, when we saw them, it was like the most kind of like honest and transparent I've ever seen like a professional, like exceptional athlete where he's just like, yeah, golf's really hard. I've been through my stuff and working through it and every day's better and we'll see how it kind of goes. It's like, you know, he just like pelted two on the 16th and had a laugh after that. I don't think either of those balls were great. And he just stayed with us and talked with us for like five minutes there on that Wednesday afternoon and night time. Like it was exceptional.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And he's a guy going forward that I'm just like, he continues to ingrain himself in my eyes of somebody that I'm pulling for. And there's going to be assholes out there because there are assholes in every walk of life and all these people that are going to hear what he said and be like, suck it up. you make all this money and just go play better at golf. Go like, oh, the guy doesn't play good golf, so he's going to step away because it's too hard. Like, I just don't understand how anyone can not see how the better you are at golf, the more torment and the more pressure that's put on you that could absolutely bring you down. The fact that these guys are able to persevere through all of this is insane. You watch the last dance of Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Michael Jordan, the top of the world, that is the highest an athlete can get. what you aspire to be. He'd sit in his hotel room and say, I don't want to play basketball anymore. I do not want to do this anymore. He literally quit. He went and played baseball. He couldn't take it anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:12 It just wasn't fun. The expectations, the fame, the drama, the fucking, I mean, the anxiety of, like,
Starting point is 01:18:17 of not being able to walk outside or not have your own life. I mean, that literally just ruined him for like a year or two. It was crazy. Listen, the best player of all time.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Yeah, if you're, if you're shit on Matt Wolfe, those are the people who need to work through the most stuff. Yes. You know what I mean? Those are the people
Starting point is 01:18:32 who need to just take a break, take a break, look in the mirror and be like, what's going on with me? Because there's something going on there. Also, what does Matthew Wolf have, what does he owe you to go play fucking golf for himself? If he wants to fucking take two years off, he could do whatever he wants. Like, what is, what does that have any effect on you if he joins that tournament next week? Nothing. Zero. Zero.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Absolutely zero. He could do whatever he wants. So I love that. I thought it made him so easy to root for, made him just a human. He's young. What is he? 22 still? He just turned 22 less than two months ago.
Starting point is 01:19:06 I mean, yeah, he's just so young and he's out there. He's one on tour. He was in the TV, made-for-TV event last year with Roy, which gets him a ton of an variety. He's been all over the place. And guess what? It may not just not be for everyone. Like Bubba Watson came out this week, kind of responding a lot to what Matt Wolf was saying. And he was extremely honest, too, and said that he would get into phases where he couldn't help but be seriously, deeply effective.
Starting point is 01:19:32 by what people were saying about him online, what people were saying about his putting when he was having a bad job putting, or you're going to three put this one, and how made him like want to go in and lock himself into his room and never come out and never play golf and maybe never even live again, how he comes out to the U.S. Open.
Starting point is 01:19:46 He's like, I'm extremely nervous over every single golf shot. I'm like so unbelievably nervous that I don't even know if I can play the game of golf. Everybody's different. Everybody goes through stuff. And so just seeing those guys come out and be that honest about it, If there's anything that makes them like skyrocket up my leaderboard of guys that I that I root for, it's that kind of honesty and transparency because you're just,
Starting point is 01:20:11 you're getting a look in and realizing that they're just people. And we're all just like people. And it's that simple. And you want those people to be happy. And, you know, if being a professional golfer and out there in front of thousands of people and being chirped at isn't what makes them happiest, like you said, Frankie, they don't know what shit when it comes to going out and playing golf. No, and as a human being, you don't know if your body or your mind is going to react to something as ridiculous as being in the limelight of playing golf in front of hundreds of millions of people that all want to chirp your swing and your attitude. I mean, I was doing it with him after that made for, after that TV event.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I'm like, this guy's saying Gucci bra and he's the college kid and he was cringy. Like, we were all doing it. But, like, that's what we do. That's what the world does. You react to things. You say things about people. You just have no idea how it's going to affect the person. And you can't then chirp the person for how it affects them.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Like, that is just, they don't, they don't know how it's going to affect them until they're in it. So Matthew Wolf was in it for, you know, a couple of years. And he's like, I need to take a break. I just need to fucking let me just reset. I never knew that I was going to be, like, affected like this. And now I'm back. I think it's awesome. I really think it's cool.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah, me too. Bryson is shambo. Bryson kind of collapsed as well. He had it going. He almost had the ace on the eighth hole, which that was sort of a moment where it felt like, okay, this is going to be. be Bryson's day. We had Brooks Keppkin went back to back and won U.S. opens now we're going to have like Bryson go back to back and when U.S. opens as well.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Like that just kind of all makes sense. That's what the storyline is going to be. Boy, did he collapse about as much as I've ever really heard or seen. I'm actually looking at his scorecard now. I didn't know it was this bad. Holy shit. It got bad there on the back. The eight is it jumps at you like a fucking lion in a jungle. Are lions and jungles? Sure. So he got to the solo lead after he birdied the eighth hole.
Starting point is 01:22:03 And then on his back nine, he shot 44. On the 11th hole, he went bogey, bogey, double on 13, par, par par, quadruple bogey, eight on 17, and then a par on the 18th hole. And look, like we've been back and forth eight trillion times about Bryson DeChambo. The one, you know, and I still don't really know how you feel all the time, he seems like a nice enough guy, but you hear certain stories. One thing that he was really getting railed on online, especially, was that he was just aiming balls, especially I think on the fourth hole on Saturday,
Starting point is 01:22:38 aiming balls at the gallery, and then just not yelling for at all, when he would hit balls, you know, 200 miles an hour at crowds of people and just not once to be yelled for. So he was getting a lot of bad PR for that on Twitter, which is not, I mean, you just can't send 200 yards, you know, bullets at crowds of human beings and not like give them heads up for it, I don't think. Especially if you're trying to aim at them. Yeah, he just becomes a weapon.
Starting point is 01:23:07 On the fourth hole, like decade golf. On the fourth hole, he was literally aiming right of the bunkers. So he took the cliffs out of play and it's all matted down from the galleries. He was just hitting it over there on purpose, picking up his tea real quick and not yelling four. And then they would pan to the ball just flying into the crowd. It was great. Dude, the commentators, they kept saying, oh, this is part of Bryson's strategy where he doesn't necessarily care where this drive ends up. Like if it's in the fairway, great. If it's not,
Starting point is 01:23:32 he can gouge and do whatever. But they never brought the fact that every time they would cut the cameras, people be running for the hills because he doesn't yell for or anything. People are just standing there enjoying the nice day in San Diego. They all fucking, they all go down. Really, for a guy, this guy, clearly we talk about how he has no self-awareness. You got to just do that. You got to just yell for it, even if it's part of your strategy. don't care. Yeah, or like communicate like, hey, but I'm on the tea, like to, you know, the staff around be like, actually I take it up the right hand side because the rough snap down or
Starting point is 01:24:07 whatever. Like you got to give a heads up. Hitting a bomb up the right hand side or wherever and then just pick it up your tea if someone could potentially see their, breathe their last breath because you're hitting a bomb is just not where we need to take golf. Like that's not a storyline that we're looking to chase. But yeah, he was. and he kept getting flack because he kept doing it,
Starting point is 01:24:29 which is just outrageous. Imagine that happened in any other sport, like in baseball. If a guy's like, yeah, in between innings, I just rocket a baseball over the third baseman's head into the crowd and then I just run into the dugout.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Like, that's just something I do. I don't say anything. I don't say heads up. I don't point to the people before. And I don't say like, I'm going to, you just send it into the crowd on purpose.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah, because that's like your pre-game strategy or something. Like, that's just something I do. You know the guy throws a first pitch fastball, so you're like, I'm going to yank this. over the third base dug out at the fans,
Starting point is 01:25:00 just to get in the guy's head to show like, hey, I can put some real power behind his ball and just walk away. But that's like your premeditated stance on it. Because that's the scary part about Bryson is, it was premed, like, no, that's his path. Yep. And hit that or miss that by five, 10 yards. Like, no, you're in the fairway.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Like, those fans are technically in Bryce's fairway. And that's just, and he doesn't say a word about it. It's almost the restable. The best part is that he aims for the padded down stampeded section Which are the most things are people Where he's saying if I don't hit it where the people are I miss hit my shot Right
Starting point is 01:25:38 Or where the people have been Like I'm looking for the way I'm tracking people And then doesn't say a word about it And no way you can see a ball off the day I mean like he's looking to injure Right Yeah so he was not getting a lot of love
Starting point is 01:25:53 For that move and in the opposite vein, like Louis Usays, and I was sitting right next to him on the 14th T, and he hit one like a little right into the gallery, and he screamed four to the point where his voice cracked, like mine has many times on camera, like the second he realized he was going to go to people, he was like, four, fuck, he was just so concerned for other humans,
Starting point is 01:26:17 which I think is the normal reaction. And so for Bryson to be doing it all week, it's like it kind of makes him like he's more machine than man, like he doesn't... Big time. He just doesn't get it when it comes to people. And like, he doesn't care about people. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:32 I don't know what that move was. But yeah, he needs to stop doing that because he's starting to get a reputation for purposely sending absolute missiles into galleries and never yelling for. Louis even wins too on that, on the 14th. They show it in slow motion. He goes, like, no, I don't want to hit anyone
Starting point is 01:26:49 because that would just ruin my day. Because it would ruin your day. If you fucking knock some old man on the ground, Like, are you kidding me? You could kill somebody. You'd hope it would ruin your day. I mean, if you clear somebody out with a drive, you'd hope that'd be like,
Starting point is 01:27:02 you know what, I should probably stop playing golf today because I almost killed a man on the 14. Somebody on tour in the last few years hit somebody. They were like bleeding profusely. They had to go to the hospital. And that player went from like playing well to shooting like 80 that day and missed the cut
Starting point is 01:27:18 and like had to withdraw from the like that. Yeah. So I think that would really negatively affect you if you killed somebody with a golf. ball like Bryson appears to do. So he should just start yelling four. At least it'll make it look better. McKenzie Hughes, all-time bad break.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Ball stays in a fucking tree. And a tree. Didn't even stay in the tree, bounced off the concrete, went through a tree, bounced off the concrete, went back into the tree and nestled up on a fucking branch. And I don't even think that's a typical California tree that, like, the stuff in San Francisco, that's just nets, right? Those are just netty trees. This was...
Starting point is 01:27:53 You know, those cypress trees? those huge cypress trees. This was your run-of-the-mill tree next to a sidewalk. You could find this in Eisenhower Park, and it just sat on a fucking branch. Never seen that before like that. It was really bad luck for that guy. And McKenzie Hughes was the guy this week,
Starting point is 01:28:13 where you saw him in the top five. You saw him up in the leaderboard. You saw him tied at one point. And you're like, that guy can't win the U.S. Open. Unfortunately, he just has the look. He has the stature. He's got the name. It's just McKenzie Hughes has no chance.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Mackenzie Hughes gets his ball stuck in the tree after hitting off the concrete. That's just what McKenzie Hughes does. Are you thinking about Henley or are you thinking about Hugh? Well, there were three guys. Because Russell Henry and Blan. Right. Those guys. I think it was Hughes, Henley, and Blan.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Those were the trifectal. Those were the trifectal. I think he went 77, 78, Saturday, Sunday. Those are the three guys who. were just not going to win the U.S. Open because of their names, unfortunately, for that. Yeah. Richard Blan. All three of them.
Starting point is 01:29:00 I think all three of them were just, like, thanks for coming out. It's cool. We'll give you a paycheck. But, like, there's no way you win the U.S. Open. When McKenzie Hughes was looking up at that tree, he had already, like, spoiled his day, kind of, like, leading up to that. He missed a couple puts. He just, like, wasn't playing well. And you could tell the pressure was probably getting to him.
Starting point is 01:29:17 He was hitting really bad putts leading up to that. And he just looked up at the tree, and I saw him just, like, let out, like, a, woof. Like, this is, this is fucking tough, man. And then, like, the, the marshals try to explain to him, like, all right, like, this is, like, where it would have dropped. They had to look at a TV camera just to identify that that was his ball. He said, yeah, that's it. Like, this is just, get me off this golf course now because I just need to go home. Like, my ball is in a tree.
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Starting point is 01:33:34 this recently, said Zander Shofley now has nine top ten finishes in 17 career major starts. Nine top ten finishes and 17 So a little bit, John Rom. He's got nine top ten finishes in 17 career major starts. That's Zander, so that's top tens and over 50% of the majors that he's participated in.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Am I hearing that correctly? That's right. Nine divided by 17 is higher than 50%. Is the John Romsdath, I said before, not that impressive? No, it's very impressive. Super impressive. It's just a bunch. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:09 I think I was pointing to you, Frankie, so I was like, man, it's amazing how many other guys that are kind of flirting around that, like, starting the peak. And so I was just kind of looking at you like, oh, boy, that Frankie's going to have a reaction to this. And then you just looked at dead face into the game. Well, my audio wasn't working there. There goes the Franklin ruins the flow here. Oh, I swear to God, it just wasn't working. You guys were speaking. I wasn't hear anything. I wouldn't be dead face like usually. My reaction to that stat is that apparently the John Romstead is not as crazy as I once thought because we've now said two different players since then
Starting point is 01:34:43 that have just finished at around the same pace or maybe even better than John Rom on average. I mean, we're talking about elite players. But I also don't think that's right because yours were, you listed like everyone that he's played it in the last three years, right? Okay. Where these are kind of like cherry picking their best ones. Like at a high clip, these people were finishing top 10, top five. But Rom like every single major over the last four years or whatever it was, he's like in the top, whatever. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Yeah, okay. All right. Zander Shoffley, that's his home course. You know, we got to catch up with him actually a little bit before the open when we were out there filming behind the greens. And he was just so dialed in, like practicing that like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday prior to the practice week. Him and Charlie Hoffman were out there early.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Patrick Reed was out there early. So I was really keeping an eye on Zander. I think that this was like a big one for him. Obviously, everyone wants to win the U.S. Open, but for a San Diego guy that, like, grew up right down behind by the golf course and played there in high school and even before that, um, I was really hoping that that could be the storybook, like, win for him this week. And he actually played pretty well. I mean, he was in contention the whole entire week. And like you said, his, his stats in, in majors have been wildly impressive.
Starting point is 01:36:04 He's a fucking fantastic golfer. Um, it was pretty cool to see the way he prepped, like, so early before US Open. I'm sure this is what guys do at like their home course. is like he just basically throws like a billion balls out on a putting green and it's just there all day so like like has like tripods and cameras set up with his coach and like even hoffman was like in the mix i guess they maybe share the same putting coach or i guess when you're both like there you guys just kind of shared they the guys kind of shared data and like and tips and stuff but like zander would like put for like two hours and then they'd go and grab lunch and they'd look over data on their iPad and they'd literally like go through their stroke and their follow-through,
Starting point is 01:36:45 kind of like what we did at the kingdom. And then they'd go back onto the green and they'd put for another hour or two. And then they'd go in some shade and they'd all hold onto the iPads. And at one point, like, Zander was writing down. He actually drew lines. And it was like he was making boxes for Super Bowl, like, bets or something. And he would write like plus one eight, plus one nine, like all the speeds of all of his putts and, like, how they broke on just a practice
Starting point is 01:37:08 putting green. And it just really opened my eyes to just how, much of a grind it is. And when I watched him during the tournament, I was like, man, is he like bringing stuff that he worked on on last Tuesday right now on this put? It's just amazing to think, like, all
Starting point is 01:37:23 that work goes into this, like, five foot straightaway put to, like, save par on Sunday at the U.S. Open. It's pretty cool to see guys, like, put that much work in and actually pay off because he played well. Well, it absolutely is. And it's such a it's such a stark
Starting point is 01:37:39 difference to how anyone else outside of a professional golfer or someone that's elite competitive golfer approaches a round of golf like think about how little preparation goes into not only just a round of golf that we play but like even a put
Starting point is 01:37:54 like you know you kind of walk up to it and just give it like maybe you get a little bit lower like you get down like you kind of go like this a little bit like fuck and like yeah it moves a little left boys and then you just like and then you just pot it and if it moves left great if it doesn't like you don't even remember it
Starting point is 01:38:10 And yet they're out here, you know, doing all of that prep work. Like you said, Frankie, for the odd chance that they might have that put on Sunday, you know, to stay within two of the lead and give yourself a chance. So there's so much that goes into it. And, you know, like when people talk about this player works this hard, you know, you wouldn't believe nobody talks enough about how hard that guy works. Like, I think there is a little bit of a benefit to working that hard, especially in a game where, like, you know, we're looking at someone,
Starting point is 01:38:40 like Zander, I mean, Zander finished one under for the tournament. He finished five shots back. Five shots over four rounds of golf out there feels like nothing. Like he was just right there. So that marginal difference is got to be gained and got to be earned somewhere. And if you can pick up a marginal difference in like that preparation and how much hard work that you do, you know, even if it's like a quarter of a shot around, like that's a stroke and that's a difference between. first and second or seventh and eighth, which adds up to a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:39:13 So, yeah, it's crazy how much goes into it. And I think people would be stunned because we see it during the practice rounds. Like when they throw it out and they hit a million different shots, we're like, what the fuck are they doing? Yeah, and shots are the coaches, like the John Tillery's of the world, this guy was out there just as long as fucking Zander. I mean, does John Tillerie ever have a second off? You've got to think that they're consistently practicing golf,
Starting point is 01:39:36 and he's got to be out there on putting greens and driving ranges. everywhere. Everywhere you looked with Xander, his guy was there right next one with an iPad and stats. Well, and then we were talking earlier in the week about watching guys grinding on the range. So, for example, remember we watched Henrik Stenson. He was out there for hours. We watched him out there, just hitting balls, hitting balls, went 76, 76, just out of the tournament, gone. But someone might look at that the way he played, who didn't see him on the range, just being like, oh, he just didn't have her, he wasn't working at it as much, whatever bullshit they come up with. But we saw it.
Starting point is 01:40:14 We saw him on the range working on his game for hours. We would leave the range, go eat lunch, come back, he'd still be there. We'd go to the podcast. We'd come back. He'd still be out there. And he went 76, 76, and was never even a factor. So it's really interesting. You're right, Frankie, that those things that he's working on, I'm sure he's putting them into the tournament that he's playing.
Starting point is 01:40:34 But, like, it can also go the other way where it just doesn't work and you're gone for the weekend. Charlie Hoffman, also a local guy, was there at the same time as Xander, and I think he finished like plus 10 for the tournament, plus 11. I think he was like, he shot like a 76, 77 on Sunday. What he was doing out there on the driving range, this is like the Wednesday or, oh no, I guess it was like the Friday before the practice rounds. So no one was on the drive range. They didn't have any stanchions up. So basically it was just an empty drive range like you would find it like a country club or something. and Charlie Hoffman actually had these little cones, like almost like soccer cones and a million different colors. And he went out on a diagonal from where he was going to be hitting.
Starting point is 01:41:18 And every, I don't know, five yards, he dropped a cone with a different color. And he went all the way out to like 150 yards. He had so many cones that would drive, it would blow your mind. And then he jogged back and he worked on hitting just different distances. It was fucking phenomenal. Like the amount of effort that was put into that prep just to put the cones out was crazy. It was exhausting to set up the fucking drill.
Starting point is 01:41:46 And that guy just like plus 10 doesn't even come close. It's such a fucking hard game, man. Like that's, you know, when kids, when we're following kids and like at a lot of majors now, especially like a US open, kids is like on the cut line all the time it feels like. He's just that guy. Like a couple strokes here or there. He's either a cut guy or he's not a,
Starting point is 01:42:05 US Open. He's setting himself on our show famously like two years ago. He's like, yeah, US Open, I got no shot. And so like when he's out there and you see him all week, like we said, he's doing the same shit. He's getting up with his physio. He's coming in two hours early. He's grinding on the range. He's putting balls out. He's practicing.
Starting point is 01:42:22 He flies his team out here. He's got to pay J.T. a percentage. He pays Dewey. He's got to get a house. He's got to get flights. He's got to do all this shit. Brings a chef in, all this stuff to play in this tournament. And then it comes down Friday and he's got like, on the whole night he's got like these four, five, six foot
Starting point is 01:42:37 puts left and right to stay inside the cut line. And I like can't breathe watching it because I'm like, dude, if he misses, he makes zero dollars and this was all for nothing. Like all of this, you could have just stayed home, dude. You could have just chilled with your kids and like all of these people. J.T. could have been on his boat, like,
Starting point is 01:42:52 hanging out and fucking, you know, wake surfing or whatever the hell they're doing. And instead, everybody's out here so that this one guy can make a couple four foot puts and try to get into the weekend and like maybe move up the leaderboard and make people some money. And that's just one guy Because it's just one out of 156 guys in the field
Starting point is 01:43:09 So the whole operation, the whole preparation level that it takes To go into these tournaments And then to actually be the guy John Rom that fucking wins it Right? Like everyone's really talented Everybody's so good at golf Everyone's doing all this prep
Starting point is 01:43:22 And then John, like you're actually the person That just defeated all those other human beings Like that's amazing Right it does sound His prep He had COVID Couldn't be with his baby Like as his parents met his newborn
Starting point is 01:43:34 And then it has to come right out of that into the U.S. Open. I mean, like, that just throws everything we're just saying out the window. This guy basically just showed up and won the thing. It does sound stupid, but the closer you get to it, and we've gotten very close to it, just be having credentials and getting close to a guy like Kiz. It is crazy that someone ends up winning this thing. It's the fact that, like, there's a guy who plays better than all of these guys
Starting point is 01:43:57 who are incredibly good and they end up winning it, I guess does it just come down to talent? Like, all these guys work super hard. That's kind of what we're saying here. Does it just come down to You're born with a little bit more of something And you end up winning the U.S. Open I think it comes down to just confidence over the ball Like it's just like a blind confidence over the ball
Starting point is 01:44:16 Maybe I'm wrong on that but like we see Wolf Wolf is like golf's too hard I don't know what the hell I'm doing out here Guy was in contention going to Sunday to win this thing We see Stenson the guy who's grinding down the range Trying to find something 76 76 smell you later We see Bryson, he's out on the range after his rounds, hitting, hitting, hitting, has a dream that he thinks he should hit it this way in contention.
Starting point is 01:44:43 It's just like, I think it really comes down to all these guys are crazy talented and then there's blind confidence because, and then it's, I guess even past that, it's just a coin. Like a little breeze here or there. Bryson goes in for a hole in one. Like, I mean, these guys win by one stroke after four days. It is a tie. That is fundamentally a tie. It is. It's also if you think, like, think about Louis' ball on 17.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Like, if his club face is, like, a fraction of an inch a little bit more square when he impacts that T-shot on 17, like, he just makes par and they're in a playoff. And if he, if his ball's a little bit, if his club face a little bit more square, and then his pot, like, that he hit on 17 just, like, broke that extra, like, millimeter where he didn't think it was going to break and goes in. He just wins the tournament. Like, that is such. And everyone's like, what? what's wrong with him? How come he comes? It's like, actually, dude, it's like he had one swing where his club face came in a fraction,
Starting point is 01:45:38 like more, you know, outside in or whatever and pulled it left into the hat. Like, that's just what it was. And by the way, and by the way, that sums up Louis's entire career at majors. If things are just like a little bit different, he's got five or six of them and we're like, holy shit. But instead, unfortunately for him, he's just on the other side of those. And I mean, he has one and that's great. but I'm sure when he's staring at the ceiling at night going to bed,
Starting point is 01:46:03 he's like, I should have four or five of these, at least. And let's stress the word little there, like a little something happens. Like little is really the difference between Zander and Rom this week. That's like five strokes. A little something happened along the way for Rom to beat Zander by five strokes. Something like so otherworldly small happened throughout four days of golf for Louis Oostazen. to not win that golf tournament. So it really does have to, like, sink in really deep and just torment you, especially when it happens time and time again, six times.
Starting point is 01:46:39 That's just fucked up, man. That's really just fucked up. And I agree with you, Lurch. I think at some point, off the races, just out of the gates, it has to be confidence. That's how you get the leaders in the pack compared to the guys who missed a cut. Some guys just don't have it that week. Other guys are feeling really good over the ball. But once you get to Saturday, I do think, like, a lot of that confidence, probably,
Starting point is 01:47:00 carries over and doubles for these guys. Like, all right, I have it this week. I made the cut. It's moving day. Let's make some moves. It all comes down to like a coin flip, bounce here or there. Like if some of these guys' putts just stay up a little bit and they don't,
Starting point is 01:47:13 they don't just curl down and miss on the low side. Like that's the difference between a par and a bogey. That's the difference between all that momentum going to the next hole. It's just, it really is a crazy trickle down effect on the golf course. And like when you think about, sorry. Well, I'd say we're using the word confidence, but it's it's actually bordering on delusion
Starting point is 01:47:31 when you're playing a sport like that. I think somebody said that recently on the show where it's like confidence is one thing and you can be confident, everybody can be confident, but to really be confident in the way that you need to be to win at this level, it borders on delusion
Starting point is 01:47:45 and probably sometimes swerves into delusion because it is that type of confidence that you need. Totally. It's like it's crazy when you think about like the little differences, like when you think about Ram's Puts, 17 and 18, he's playing both of those, couple like feet outside the hole it seems when a putt is breaking that much what are you putting like an extra half inch of pace on it to find that line like what is the number of just like how
Starting point is 01:48:11 much ump he's getting on it to keep that line like it's everything's just ridiculous i mean it's pretty much it's a damn well a tie if you're asking me and like the odds the odds are dramatically in the favor of rom missing not one but both of those pots and instead they just both go in and Louis loses and everyone's like, what's wrong with Lou? It's like, well, I mean, what are we talking about here? Over the course of four days, 72 holes of golf, like 20, they're out there for 20 hours, maybe 20 plus hours playing, like, tournament golf inside the ropes. And it's like, you said Lurt's like maybe two total half inches of pace difference.
Starting point is 01:48:49 And Rob's like, goes over the top lip or just dives underneath. And everyone's like, yeah, Louis was steady, man, this was his week. And that's just a totally different storyline. Yeah. And sometimes things can just happen that are out of the control. You get a plug, you get plugged in a bunker, you, whatever. Like you were supposed to keep the pin in, and you didn't keep the pin in, and the put with the pin in would have drained.
Starting point is 01:49:12 And you just had a discussion 10 seconds before where your caddy said, let's take it out. But that is the difference between you winning and losing. It really, if you really boil it down, I don't know how all golfers don't just go mad. No. They kind of do, which. Yeah. Which all this makes it even more impressive that you see the same names at top leaderboards week after week after week. That's where it gets crazy.
Starting point is 01:49:34 They're fucked up. Right. They are. Something in your head has to be just off. Like it makes more sense to us, to my stupid brain, if there was never the same top five guys on a leaderboard from week to week. Like that would make more sense than seeing the same guys over and over and over again. That's how good they are. Professional athletes just have a different brain, man.
Starting point is 01:49:54 They just are able to. access things that we can't even comprehend. That's why to us it's preposterous that they're able to do what they do. Really quick, I got a lot of tweets about this, but I mentioned the plugged bunkers. And we saw a lot of them today. We saw like a lot of the balls like ending,
Starting point is 01:50:12 like ROMs ended up like on that bad lie on 18. Borees got like, was in a bad spot should it came down. And one of the highlights of behind the greens that's on YouTube was the fact that because they are a public golf course, I'm sure a lot of golf courses do this. Maybe all of them do. I never knew that this was a process,
Starting point is 01:50:29 but a lot of amateur golfers will walk up the faces of bunkers. I was one of those people. Like, for sure, would just run out of bunkers. It's probably video of me on 4Play YouTube of doing it. But what I didn't realize was like, yeah, I mean, there's 100% it is.
Starting point is 01:50:46 I mean, I think we did a video of us like getting stuck in one and getting pulled out, right? In like Vegas. We were all over the fucking. Oh, yeah. And what you don't realize is, that when that happens at a golf course, like it's 90,000 players from January to July, which was like a preposterous number of players, when that happens all day, every day,
Starting point is 01:51:07 the tops of these bunkers and the faces just have no integrity. They have no strength. So a ball hits them, and they're just fluff, fluff and nutter, you know, peanut butter and that used to be my go-to elementary school sandwich. I fucking love fluffer nutter. That marshmallow of fluff stuff? Yeah, really fucking good. So they actually go through with a compact here, and they really try and firm that up.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Now, is, like, did they not do a good enough job? Because it was funny to see on the first day, these balls were hitting the tops of the bunkers and rolling right back down in the middle. It was fucking, I was getting tweets like crazy. Like, dude, these bunkers are compacted as shit. Like, the guy Juan and Julio that fucking did it in the video are legends. Like, people are going crazy. And then on Sunday, these things are flying in, like, fried eggs. I never seen so many plugged fucking balls and bunkers in my life.
Starting point is 01:51:55 So you wonder if it's the wear and tear Because you got a guy like Patrick Cantlay on Thursday Walked right up the face of a bunker after he hit one We put it out on four-played Twitter It was preposterous It was like the most amateur exiting of a bunker I've ever seen So it just opens your eyes a little bit Stuff like that from behind the greens
Starting point is 01:52:11 And stuff like that has an impact on the game And that's the only reason I bring that up Like it has an impact on Rory Macoroy If that's more compact and strong, it comes down If maybe ROM has a better shot I mean it didn't come back to fuck him but no that could easily be the difference in some guys rounds no doubt it's almost like we should interview one of those guys I mean because I'd be interested
Starting point is 01:52:31 to like do they think that comes down to them not being able to give it like course maintenance as much over those Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday I mean could they not wet it enough like or is it because of wearing terror it's just a bunch of hot days so dried up the sand like I would love to know because I was actually watching that too Frankie like the first couple days perfect roll down in the middle and then on Sunday it was a mess it was like a great It was like dropping a freaking like a pinball into just marshmallow. They just sat.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Whatever that is. I don't know. I was trying to think of just something hard that just fucking falls into nothingness. Go check out behind the greens that people have them because it was really good. Great work by you and bug, obviously. Brennan murdered that. Murdered it. Really, really good work.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Especially the paragliding stuff was some of the sickest stuff I've ever seen. I told you that you're going to love that character that took me up in the sky. Oh, he was awesome. Have you ever in your life seen a guy more Californian than that dude? No, he was, he embodied the state. When people say, oh, this is what California people are like and they have like a caricature in their head about some lazy surfer bro or whatever, that's what that guy is. He was just, he was quite the character. Exactly how he describes.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Man. It's unbelievable. Oh, man. Fantastic. All right, boys, I've got to get going. It's been a long week, obviously, but it was an awesome week. So a big shout out to the USDA, to John Rom, to a lot of different people, to the staff here at Tori Pines. But it was a phenomenal championship.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Leaderboard was off the charts. Today was as excited as I've been watching and trying to follow everything going back and forth. So we'll be back, you know, on Thursday. Anybody got anything else? It did it hard. Yeah, I don't think so. What do you got, Frank? Mikey. I know where he's got to go, but I, I, I almost died the other day to the point where it's changed my life. And this is going to be really quick. I just have to tell you guys because you're my friends. And I've let a lot of my friends know this. Like I literally sent out text messages. Like I almost just died today. Okay. Real quick, walking down a street, really fucking windy, going to dinner right by the beach. So we're in Long Beach. And anyone that knows Long Beach in New York, there's like a beach, a bunch of parking on the street where you can actually, it looks like a parking lot. But then there's a street on either side of that parking.
Starting point is 01:54:52 line. It's basically a parking lot in the middle of the street. So when you're walking this sidewalk, you almost feel like you're in a parking lot. You don't think cars are going to come left and right, whatever. I'm walking down the street, and this is a little bit embarrassing, but I had a little cream I was putting on my face because I was getting a little bit of a dry face. So I had it in my pocket. And I'm a little, you know, like, whatever, I feel self-conscious about this. So I'm trying to put a little cream on my face behind the crew that I'm walking behind to dinner. Okay. So I'm fissling around with this, fiddling around with this, this cream bottle. and the cap falls off and rolls into the street.
Starting point is 01:55:24 And it's fucking windy out, man. Crazy windy. So this thing just starts going like a movie scene. Like just down the street. And I go, look at this fucking thing. And like, I'm laughing. And I run in the street to go get it. And all of a sudden, I take three or four steps and I'm jogging.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Someone in my group screams, Frank! And I stop. And all of a sudden, a car going like 80 miles an hour, just goes, boom! Right by my face. And I literally looked back at the crew and I said, I, like, I couldn't, I didn't speak for 25 minutes. I looked back. I'm like, what the fuck did I just do?
Starting point is 01:56:00 I ran in the middle of the street. An active street of a car going as fast as it could possibly go down a side street. And it was windy. I didn't hear it coming. I'm telling you, my foot was under the car. That's how close it was. You're like a small child going after a ball. It was crazy, dude.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Like, over a cap, I couldn't believe it. I probably didn't have to say this on the podcast, but I've been shook about it. Like, legitimately shook to the point where I feel like I've gotten a second chance of life. That's how close I came to getting hit by this car. That's how close I came.
Starting point is 01:56:31 You know, like, why did you, why did you, I wonder what led to you actually going in there for the cat? Who cares about the cat? Like, why would you jump into the middle of the road?
Starting point is 01:56:39 I don't, I didn't think of the, I was, I was so fixated on how far that thing was going that I was like, I said to someone, like, look at this fucking thing rolling.
Starting point is 01:56:49 You know what I mean? I was just like, I was like, look at this thing. And I just jogged to go get it. And a lot of things happened for the person who screamed. Like, it was like one of our friends looked back because one of my other friends was locking the keys to a car. So if that person wasn't doing that, the other person wouldn't look back and saw the car coming. Dude, I would have been dead.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Fuck, man. Over a cream. So that person saved your life, clearly. Yes. Over a cream cap. Has it made you, like, reprioritize anything? or like, you don't,
Starting point is 01:57:21 like, wouldn't it would be funny if you just didn't care about the islanders anymore. Imagine I could just shoot now. If you could. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:30 It's like, I'm just a sick fucking golf for now. I haven't golf since. Maybe you are. I actually almost, I went to the, I went, we got to the restaurant right after
Starting point is 01:57:39 and I actually went to the bathroom and I was nauseous. I almost puked. Yeah. Because I know personally, I was about to take another step. Like, I know that if someone didn't scream,
Starting point is 01:57:48 I would have just kept jogging after this fucking, green cat this cream cap i know i would have i don't like that story for the reason for a couple reasons but the main one is that just how close it can be all the time trent it ruined my i was really shook like when we're talking about the golf where it's like oh the wind blows a little bit this way and that's why that guy loses a tournament that's just as applicable in real life in terms of being alive or dead they would probably would have put me on the we had a discussion if they would have put me on the screen that night for the game for sure dude maybe it would have
Starting point is 01:58:22 Boy, it's just such a different turn than talking about the U.S. Open and ROM and how awesome that was. Sorry, I didn't die, Lurch. What? I was just kidding. You create more hate between us than I feel sort of good. I was going to say, your mere death experience,
Starting point is 01:58:40 it didn't change a ton, at least between you and Lurch. Like, it's not like you guys are now buddy, buddy. But first thing I said, I think I said, like, I'm glad you're okay. But you close, like after Riggs tries to bring it back to normal, you give a close of back to negative of side and dilerch. It's like, I'm just like, listen, I'm just, I'm back in the swing of things here, people, you know? I will say one time in New York City, a car cut me off, ran over my toes, and I punched the car in the side of the car.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Did you break your toes? No, it's just like I was walking across the crosswalk. I even have, I wasn't even jaywalking at this time. It just like came and did a sharp left and I had the right away as a pedestrian. And it was just like one of those long days of work. and I was just like agitated already. And I just, I just punched the side of the car as hard as I could. It slammed to the brakes.
Starting point is 01:59:28 I stood in the middle of street and I was just staring at the car. I was like, if he gets out of here or she, we just have a fight. We just have a fight on our hands. You're not that guy, pal. You're not that guy. Okay. I fucking,
Starting point is 01:59:44 that guy's a psychopath in that video, but I fucking love, dude. He's got to die. Brows, bro. He's got shark eyes. You're not, that guy, pal. I'm okay? Okay? Oh, and you are?
Starting point is 01:59:56 That's right. All right. I just stared at that door. Thank God they pulled off because if they had opened the door, I probably take off running. I don't really know what my path is, but I don't think it's an interaction. All right. Hey, Riggs. Safe travels, my friend.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Safe drive back to Arizona. Likewise. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Thanks, guys. Go Islanders.

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