Fore Play - Rebranding Rickie Fowler + Steve Elkington Vs Riggs

Episode Date: March 23, 2021

It’s Match Play week and the boys are buzzing. Fresh off the Honda Classic, we break down Matt Jones' win, Riggs’ JB Holmes tweet that sent Steve Elkington into a tizzy, and Adam Scott’s adonis-...like figure. Then we dive deep into Nick Faldo’s comments about Rickie Fowler potentially missing the Masters, preview the Match Play by breaking down defending champion Kevin Kisner’s record, toss our brains in a blender by discussing UFOs and our cosmic footprint, and as always much, much more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's a big week for our guy, Kevin Kisner. He's the defending champion because they didn't have a tournament last year. So Kiz has been sort of the tiger effect on the Masters where he was just the Masters defending champion forever. Kiz has been the match play defending champ for a very long time. This golf course this week is awesome. I would say it's maybe my favorite to watch in terms of just how the actual golf ball.
Starting point is 00:00:32 There's a hole that par five with the bridge where they hit it like 470 yards all the time. So I get really jacked up for this week in the match play. It's different. So we're going to get to all that. Go Bobcats. You guys know out there the result of the game because this podcast coming out on Tuesday, but we're speaking with one another on Monday. And tonight, the Ohio Bobcats, great state of Ohio, a lot of good golf up there,
Starting point is 00:00:56 win and go to the Sweet 16, we get a little Bitcoin, or we get at least a chunk of a Bitcoin, which is worth a lot of money. So we're hard on the Ohio Bobcats right now. Oh, HIO. Do they do that or is that Ohio State? Because I know when we go to Ohio State, they go, OHIO. Feels like Ohio should have that. I agree.
Starting point is 00:01:16 That should be Ohio's. I mean, OSU's got OSU. I think that's where they live. They're Ohio. I would say, I don't know this, but as Ohio had to start. before Ohio State. Ohio is the oldest school in Ohio. But it's also like when they say, what do they say, the winners get to write the history books where if your school is so good at sports, you kind of get to dominate what the
Starting point is 00:01:40 chance are. Yeah, it was, I'll say it's a little weird when we dip into someone's Twitter world and tweet because we're not like tweeting properly how that crew tweets about their team and their school and their slogans and stuff. So it's a little bit weird. you try to keep it real basic. I was going to go with the Ohio thing. I think I was tweeting some of that. I don't know. It could be their biggest rivals.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So it is a little weird. All I do is I just say roll Bobcats. I continually say Roll Bobby's. Roll Bobcats. Bobcat Nation. I repeat those things and people seem to be okay with it. Yeah. I'm very excited for tonight's game.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I think that we have a good squad. We're facing Creighton to Five Seed. That's like a good match. The only thing that makes me nervous is that all these other teams have already come, like, have already done the upset. The upset has already been committed. So who knows that we're going to get a fifth team in there. That's crazy. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But I'm very, very, very into the Bobcats right now. I was looking at play. We're not only are we into the Bobcats, but it seems like the Bobcats are pretty into us. We had our guy, Ben Roderick, tweeting at us after the game being like, we got you guys like, crazy. Let's play around sometime. And then he even did the hashtag barstool bracket blockers. So that's as good as it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 gets. It's as good as it gets. So these guys are on our side. We're on their side. It's good vibes all around. He dropped 15 points that game. The first thing he did, instead of thanking his mother, he thanked us for tweeting about him. Biggest game of his life. Creighton's on the other side. Cretton does not, not in favor of us rooting for Ohio. I saw Virginia because we beat UVA and they're like, we just didn't need this this year. You guys are coming at us for no reason. You know, they're fucking, they're all the team. Just because we're a low seed?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Now you hate us? What the hell is this about? Yeah. They're like all their careers. They don't need it. But their careers are over. They're so sad. They're years over and we're just pummeling them on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Randomly. They got these fucking guys. Frank and I, we got called up for the blockers draft. Shout out Blockfolio. And we just like, we're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:45 We were thinking about Ohio. We're North Texas. And then North Texas lost yesterday. So we're sitting in a good spot. We're sitting in a very good spot. Because we get internet money. That's the whole thing. So, like, they're live, their basketball career is over and we're dancing because people get internet money.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, potentially, too. We didn't even have it yet. We're just like, we're one step closer to maybe getting internet money. And it felt really good. And as the more teams that win in this contest, the less we get. And there was a lot of teams that won yesterday. So, but it's still, it's exciting. We got a little skin in the game.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I'm excited for the game tonight. Like Rick said, though, if you're, when you're listening to this, you already know. So you're going to know if we're happy or sad. Yeah, it's kind of weird. that somebody's probably listening just being like this was all for nothing. Like these guys, they just lost. I will eat a lot of prosciutto though.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So I'm excited about that. I don't know why I've linked our blockfolio bracket busters to just my consumption of Italian salty meats. But I went for it the other day. And boy, was it a hit. I had a couple people over my buddy's house. And he's like, go get a couple of limes. I said, yeah, I'll go get a couple of limes.
Starting point is 00:04:47 First thing I did was go to the Italian meat section of Uncle Giuseppies. And I fucking waited there for a half an hour. and I was picking the Supersad, the Presuta de Parma. I mean, dude, he's like, how much you want? Like a quarter past, he said, give me a pound of bowl. He goes, you know how much a pound of prosciut is? Like, like, really, because it's so thinly sliced. It took them like a half an hour to cut this fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I ate the whole thing during the game. So I will be doing that again tonight. We'll see. It'll set back my Peloton, you know, the advanced that I've made in health. It's stress eating. Yeah, there's nothing you can do. You're now tying. You're now tying your kind of.
Starting point is 00:05:20 You're now tying your content to prosciutto consumption, which is good. As we roll Bobby's, I roll pieces of pursuit. Hell yeah, brother. So that's tonight. Again, you guys already know the result, but if they win, we get a bunch of internet money. So you should be happy for us. Owens mixers. That's another thing you should be happy about right there.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I got this can right here. It is phenomenal, great branding, cool logo, and the drink is even better. So get yourself a little Owens. Have yourself a nice day. Transfusion Thursday's coming up. there will be match, play golf on. So get ready for that. Go to Owensmixtures.com.
Starting point is 00:05:54 They got a lot of good flavors. Obviously, the transfusion is our favorite. But try a bunch of different ones. They got a great logo, too, the donkey logo. That's when we had our little shoot. So there's a lot of history there. We had our billboard siding. So there's a lot of history going into the old Owens Mixers situation.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Do yourself a favor. Get involved. Try it. You're going to like it. You make great cocktails. And it's very simple. I wonder what my guy Elwood is up to. Elwood, the donkey.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Elwood was a little out to lunch, I would say. I hope he is free. I hope he escaped somehow. The least free donkey of all time. The lady, his handler was very sweet. She was a very nice lady. He talked a lot about energies and positive energies and letting the world flow to you and all that.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So I'm hoping if he's if he's not free that they're enjoying a nice, you know, positive energy lifestyle. But I hope he is. He's not free. Elwood showed up in a top hat and a bow tie. You think that's a definition of free? We were hitting golf balls at him.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He was kicking. balls into hole. You were hitting golf balls out of her. He's definitely probably not free, but I hope he's... You think he's put out to pasture? You think he's still with us? How dare you? He's definitely still with us. Well, I mean, Rick said he was a little bit out to lunch. And so, you know, I didn't know if sometimes, sometimes, you know, like comes and goes. And I don't know, maybe he's, he could be free in terms of he's on a field with fences grazing, but he doesn't get dressed up anymore due to lack of trust of what goes through
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm going to say that he's free. Elwood didn't like choose to put that outfit on, you know? It's like that's, he just doesn't have a lot of choices. And that's, is it a he? It was a he? Yeah, Elwood, he. Anyways, Owens mixers is great. So you can go to Amazon and get some Owen's mixtures. Honda Classic, it was a little bit tough because there's Mark Madness going on and we just came off the Players' Championship. So it's a little bit hard to be all fired up about the Honda Classic compared to everything else that was going on, especially when the leaderboard wasn't necessarily the most diabolical names of all time. And Matt Jones, second win of all time,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I think it's been seven years since his first win, came out and just blitz the field. Probably the coolest part was his pace of play. It was one of those where, you know, whenever he didn't have the honor on the tee, somebody else would tee off. And they legitimately had to cut from the other person's ball. Like they couldn't even watch it finish because they would miss him teeing off
Starting point is 00:08:14 because he just teed off. so quickly. So that was by far, I would say, the best part of the weekend. Five stroke victory, it just was never really that close. You thought going into the bear trap last, you know, three or four holes out there, maybe you get some fireworks, maybe you get a little drama. And he just played great golf and kind of blitz the entire field. But again, the pace of play, I thought was fantastic. Pace of play is so interesting, too, because it looks like he's setting up to take a practice. Like even when he dresses the ball, his club is inside the golf ball. So you're like, no, here comes like a practice swing or like an abbreviate something like trim the grass and then he hits but no it's
Starting point is 00:08:50 inside and then he just swings at it then off he goes it's really remarkable and i saw certainly there was some twitter traction between you elkinton and a few others because maybe you were critical it's like no you're just like kind of like saying how you feel which is exactly what we do um but yeah there was certainly a difference between jb holmes and the way that our boy matt jones plays Matt Jones. He got a little bit of pushback on my J.B. Holmes tweet, which I would say was a pretty bland, I think. It wasn't like a hot tape. It was just like, J.B. Holmes, like when he collapses, I've had a bad taste in my mouth about J.B. Holmes ever since the incident at, I believe it was Torrey Pines in the 72nd Hall.
Starting point is 00:09:29 When he's standing in the middle of the fairway, he took like 10 minutes to decide to just lay up when his playing partner had a good chance to win the golf tournament and ended up not hitting great shots and everyone was going nuts about pace of playing. and he was right in the thick of things, pretty much him and Bryson, on being slow on the PGA tour. So that's just a bad taste in my mouth. Pretty bland tweet to just be like, yeah, when I tune in and J.B. Holmes is nine over bar, since I've had that bad taste on my mouth, I kind of dig it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:54 That's fine. Wasn't a massive attack on the guy's carriers. And then I got, and Steve Elkinton, I love Steve Elk. We've had him on the show a handful of times. He is one of the funniest motherfuckers ever met. So I love Elk. And he's a very opinionated guy. I'm a pretty opinionated guy.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So then he started going a little bit off. the rails about like paying players and I think that he thought he chirped me and was like you still asking for tour players to give you free content. I was like yeah. No, yeah. Absolutely. Of course we are. Like that's actually what that's what we do all the time. And it's actually, I would say like a badge of honor that the players willingly work with us. They like to work with us. And then he said, just pay the players, then chirp all you want. And so I think there's a little bit of a disconnect. I don't even know what that. I don't even know what that means. Right. I didn't find that one either. And by the way, no.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We're not going to do that. That's not what we're going to do. And I think, you know, I put this in my tweet, but I think like the players clearly see a value in coming on. A, they either like it. They just enjoy doing stuff with us, filming videos, chatting on the podcast. It's a different type of media.
Starting point is 00:10:56 It's a different platform. It's a different crew, clearly a different attitude towards golf. And B, it's definitely a calculation on their part that it grows their exposure, their brand, you know, gets them out there, gets them more fans. So that's all just obvious, I think. thought so it was a little just the paying players thing was a little weird and also let's be clear elkington comes on this show for free and that's the same reason that anyone does anything with us to get a larger platform to get more eyeballs on them that seems like a weird argument to make when you've been
Starting point is 00:11:24 on this show he's potentially been on this show more than any other guest and so for him to be like oh well you got to be paying these players and then they can do whatever they want do you come on here because our platform is huge and you come on and you want a little bit of that too it's the same give and take with anybody else that we have on is he just waiting on a check Jack, like, did he expect, like, is Elkington sitting by the fucking mail every day? I'm like, man, I'm really, really late on this check from the foreplay guys. I've gone on 10 times and they haven't paid me a dollar. He's just right by the mailbox.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, man, what is with those guys? They're just never going to send this? Is it a 11 months gone by? This is insane. Yeah. No, and I like Elkington, too. It's just sort of a weird hill to decide to die on when that's just how the world works. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So, so yeah, I hate to keep saying I love elk because I do. So it's not like ill will towards us. I just think that take was a little, it was a little bizarre. It was not, like you said, not a hill that I was expecting anybody to die on and not a battle I was expecting to have. I was a paying player. What are we doing here? So hopefully that just kind of goes away.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It just didn't make a ton of sense either. Like, so once you pay them, then you can chirp them. Like, that's like the logic behind the tweet, like, which I fundamentally didn't understand either. So, like, I saw the conversation kind of die off at that point, but then Elks said, like, I'm done, like, fighting this battle. And I was like, well, I don't even know, I don't know the premise of the argument. Like, is it the premise? Like, you're saying, like, no, once you pay them, then you can just make fun of anybody you want.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Here's what you got to do. Here's what you got to do. Next time we're at a tournament. Next time we're at a tournament, give J.B. Holmes $5 and then be like, you're a slow playing piece of shit. Yeah. Signed Elfinkin. That's that. This is, Elk told me to do this.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So I'm going to pay you $5 and then I'm going to insult how slow you play the game of golf. Right. And then you break it down. Are certain insults worth a certain amount of money? You know what I mean? Like the higher the amount that you give them, are you allowed to say even more horrible things about them? Because I like to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:13:21 First of all, you guys owe Jack Johnson $10,000. Right. We all owe Bryce and D. Shambo like $100,000. Like if we're going to break it down this way, we just got to go to the people that we've been most critical and we've got to start writing checks. Can we treat it like almost like it's a strip club? We go with a bunch of singles next time we go to a tournament and just start firing singles at guys and chirping them
Starting point is 00:13:42 when we walk down the range. You're fat, you're slow, you're annoying. Nobody likes that outfit. It's just like they can't complain. Such a weird premise. Yeah, it was a little bizarre. It was a little bizarre. And again, I'm sure J.B. Holmes is a nice enough guy.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I saw Kip Henley, who, you know, Caddy on tour for a long time, Austin Cook for a while. He was with DJ Singh for a while. he's been on the show before, I believe, multiple times as well. He was kind of chirping that, like, this is a horrible take about, so we'd love to have J.B. Holmes on the show. Jamie Holmes wants to come on this show right here. Happy to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Dude, it's the same as anything else in any other avenue where if you're on Twitter, it's jokes. Like, everything we do on Twitter is a fucking joke. Like, I tweet The Bachelor, I say crazy shit about everybody on the show. Those are jokes. Frankie says the thing about Abraham Answer at the President's Cup. Then he comes on the show and we have a good laugh about it. Riggs talks about J.B. Holmes, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:33 which is a take that everyone has on J.B. Holmes, like you're saying Riggs, it's a pretty standard take on J.B. Holmes. And, like, if J.B. Holmes came on the show, we'd bust his balls about that, we'd laugh about it. And then we'd get actual cool information about his life and how he plays golf and how he got involved. Like, it's all the same thing. So to just pick that tweet randomly on a random Sunday and then be like, oh, well, then you got to pay these players if you're going to talk shit about him. It makes no sense to anyone. Yeah, I put, I tweeted that out on that I was busy for like a half hour. I looked at my phone. to Twitter. I was like, huh, that's interesting. Huh, what's going on here? Like, what are these
Starting point is 00:15:10 reactions? Because it's just a pretty common, like, that's how people feel about J.B. That's fine. It's not that crazy. It wasn't a vicious attack. So, so yeah, the whole thing is a little bizarre. I'm sure hopefully we don't have to pay him, but we'd like to get J.B. Holmes on at some point and, you know, chat through it. I'm sure he's a nice enough fellow. I'm sure we'd end up loving him at the end of it. So that's the J.B. Holmes saga. Did you guys see Adam Scott on Thursday when he made that par save out of the water? Like the little pond there and he rolled his fucking pants up. Took like a half an hour to get undressed.
Starting point is 00:15:41 It was so like it was almost like Gustavo Fring getting ready to cut that guy's throat open. He was like so slowly rolling up the pants. He took the glove off. He covered his jacket up and he zipped it up and slowly walked into the water and fucking made an up and down. One of the craziest parts I've ever seen. The only reason I bring that up is because that's a move I've always wanted to do is to just step in the water and hit a shot. I wanted to do it when we were in Nevada. I asked like, can I do that? And I was like, no, you're not getting in there. But the reason why I wish I could do is because you need to have those legs to be able to hold that
Starting point is 00:16:17 off, right? Like when something an alligator might see you and think you're a flamingo with those dirty little legs going on a hundred percent. Because like the good thing about wearing pants is you cover up your legs. And that exposes it. When you do the roll up, it exposes the calves more than shorts because everything else is tight and you just like, you need to have some sort of definition. I mean, Adam Scott's legs were maybe the most beautiful legs I've ever seen in my entire life. And he was just waiting for any opportunity to roll those things up and show him. So shout out to Adam Scott for looking incredible as usual. I mean, he's one of the hottest guys on tour. That's no question. He's hot. He's a and making that up and down. I thought that was a phenomenal, phenomenal clip on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, you're only doing that if you're an Adonis. If you're, if you've got the body to do it. Like Phil is, Phil an Adonis. Okay. What is that? It's like, it's like, is it Greek? It's, um, I don't know the definition of Adonis. I was like, does you mean Giannis?
Starting point is 00:17:14 No, not the basketball player. Adonis, do you guys know the, when people say Adonis? If you're an Adonis. I just assumed it was Greek and some like, like, mythical feature. uh, read it off. It was super, I'm trying to find it.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Jake Bass says it's the, what is, what was it rigged? The god of beauty and desire. Okay. Greek God. There you go. Put that one in your quiver, Frank.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Love it. Okay. Frankie can't put that in a sentence. That would be a mess if all of a sudden Frankie's in a bar with his buddies and he drops in Adonispa. It's going to be a miss every time. Get the hell out of here. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Are we recording? We were talking about a cup of coffee. Frankie's been working in the cup of coffee saying, and it did take him a few tries to fully understand it. So there's going to be a couple of misses with Adonis, but when you nail it, people are going to be very impressed. But my point was, is that like Phil or Adam Scott, they're going to be quick to roll up those pant legs because they got great legs.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, the next Islander game, Frankie's probably going to tweet Adonis like a hundred times about all the players. 100%. If one of them hits, it hits. So good luck, Frankie. I'm rooting for you. Appreciate that. Hold on. Before you move on, Riggs, to another topic.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Did you see Matt Jones and his, his, like, training practice of chipping to putting? Did you see this? No. So he's been a really good chipper with, like, good tempo, but his putting wasn't great. So he was holding both, like, a wedge and a putter at the same time, looking down at the wedge and putting with it to get a sense of the tempo. and then switching to his putter face. So does this make sense at all? So there's a ball in the green.
Starting point is 00:18:58 He's holding his wedge and his putter down, looking at the wedge to get a sense of the tempo and putting with the blade of it, like much of the way people do it. And then trying to remit that and putting his putter to the ball and now recreating that same tempo, which I thought was a very interesting training tactic
Starting point is 00:19:18 that obviously paid off. But it was like just, I don't know, the power of visually and the mind and looking down at the wedge, would you feel more comfortable with, mimicking that tempo, and then quickly going to the putter face, looking down at that and trying to recreate the same thing,
Starting point is 00:19:32 which I've never seen anybody hold two clubs at once and get a sense of that. So I was wondering if you guys did as well. Is that something you might try there, Frank? You're going to put that one in the rotation too? Well, the thing that sticks out to me when you say that, is that I just don't care enough about putting as much as I should. I just, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:19:51 I just need to practice all that. that stuff more. And I think it's very evident after four years of being, you know, on camera with hitting golf shots and whatever, however long it's been, that I need to just, I need to start doing shit because if Matt Jones is up there winning golf tournaments, holding two clubs trying to get, I can't tell you the last time I thought about the tempo of my putt it, my, my, my putter stroke. Can't tell you the last time. I never have. And that's surprising because it's the one thing you can practice at home. Like, oh, I do practice it, but I don't think about it. Okay. Yeah. Because I was going to practice, perfect practice.
Starting point is 00:20:23 putting mat and i'll knock in a hundred puts but i'm not actually thinking about anything right because we always say like it's hard for us to get that much better when every time we play golf we're playing golf we're not going to the driving range we're not we're not we're not going around we're not chipping and putting but yeah when you do the perfect practice putting mat yep then you like you got to think about it you can do it mindlessly if you're like on the phone talking to somebody minusy but if you think about it it it would it's so easy to just practice and improve upon there's a good great tidbit in Hank Haney's book about working with Tiger where he talked about when they would really work on something in the range. Tiger a lot of times would hit three or four balls working
Starting point is 00:21:03 and he would go sit in the cart and just think about what they were working on because he genuinely needed to like comprehend and put full thought into what they were doing for him to actually get it where we like Trent just said, I mean, it is the most mindless attempted practice that you can possibly have. Dude, it's not what it's common. Bro, uh,
Starting point is 00:21:24 well, Trent, go ahead, because I'm, I may take this a little off topic. You know, it's like when you're, when you're reading a book and you'll read an entire page,
Starting point is 00:21:32 but you're not actually reading it and you'll think about like, what did I just read? And if you, if someone asked you a question about the last page, you wouldn't be able to answer it. But if you, once you really focus in your reading, then you're reading,
Starting point is 00:21:42 your reading comprehension improves. I think the same is with putting. If you're just mindlessly, you know, whackin at the ball on your putting mat, then it's not going to matter. But if you're actually paying attention, that's where the improvement comes.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So we all hit golf shots and we just do it. We've always said that. Like we just take a swing and wherever the ball goes, it goes. And someone messaged me. So I played golf yesterday. It was like 60 degrees in New York. I actually played Deepdale, which is like one of these,
Starting point is 00:22:07 I think they call it the Billionaires Club. There's like 200 members. I think they get like 40 guys playing at most is like the busiest day. And like all these guys helicopter in. It's just an awesome place to be. It was, so it was really cool to. play that's right by my house and never played it and you know i'm excited to play deep down fucking
Starting point is 00:22:25 whatever i'm getting going we i haven't played since we played in the fucking mountains of nevada so i was excited to play northeast golf again and someone messaged me just before i got up to the t-box on to on twitter and i and they were like hey man like i've watched hours of your swing and which was scary but i've watched hours a haymaker if someone starts for that and he goes i want to tell you something your pre-shot waggle, the little thing you do with your wrist, is the number one reason why you're inconsistent with your irons. You're creating tension in your wrists and your fingers prior to taking the club back, and it's near impossible to have a consistent and confident coming through the ball swing
Starting point is 00:23:08 with that pre-shot waggle. So he says when you address the ball, it was a long message. When you address the ball, just relax for that like one or two seconds. Don't do anything. and then take it back. So now I'm like, and we didn't get to hit the range or anything. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:22 what the fuck? Like, so I'm now, for the first time to bring it back to, you know, the Matt Jones thing, I'm thinking. I'm like looking down at the,
Starting point is 00:23:32 I'm like, what do I do? So my first swing with an iron, I just like went limp. Like I was just like fucking loosey-goosey. And I just fucking sprayed one like a thousand feet left. Like I just couldn't believe I even tried that. And it just goes to,
Starting point is 00:23:47 show that like when we I'm sure that there is some sort of truth to that right where like you need to have soft hands you don't want to be too tense and I guess his thought of like never being consistent when your fingers are all fucking tight and you're moving your wrist I guess that makes sense you can't think of shit like that when you're us though they can't I would say also like maybe your body isn't like doesn't tense up in that way and you since you're so little and like you know fundamentally were you weak you need to get the blood flow so maybe that helps get your body move. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And I go back like, like Bryson does a, you want to talk about a waggle? Right. Right. And he's like, he fucking hits balls 400 yards. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:32 I also would say like the waggle typically, I think, is encouraged because it releases, like it gets movement going and it actually eases attention. If you're staying in there dead solid, like are you like a fucking block of wood? Like how are you supposed?
Starting point is 00:24:47 to then swing like a nice fluid swing. Like I think I'm thinking like Tom Watson with a nice waggle, Jason Dougher had a great. Tiger Woods does a little, Tiger Woods does the little one. Oh, you ever heard of them? I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:00 come on, dude, I literally stood over my ball. I didn't move an inch and I did this like gumby loose swing. I went, it just fucking barely went anywhere. And everyone was like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Like when I took this swing, I'm like, I just write something on Twitter. I, you know, it's just I can't. I can't think. I can't do the Matt Jones.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I just got to play. Well, the craziest thing I think in this whole story is that you on the first T looked at Twitter and then made a fundamental swing change to your game. That's actually a pretty good golf game. You read one thing on Twitter, which is 99.9% lies. And you just put that into the billionaires club before he teed off, but you're just an incredibly nice golf court. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 You bring up an interesting point. Do you think we? are the recipients of the most golf tips of all time of any golfers. Because I like maybe we're not number one, but we're certainly in the top 10. We're now in an era where we're very accessible. We're on Twitter. We're on YouTube. We're on Instagram where and people watch our golf swings all the time.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And I would say we're at least in the top 10 of most golf tips given in the history of the game. And golfing that like just you give tips. Like everyone thinks they're the best. They think they're better than you. And they know the game better than you do. So they're going to give you a tip and get. you to a higher level of golf that's what every single person that watches us thinks and then some of
Starting point is 00:26:21 them actually act and send the message so yeah i think it's a hundred percent we get the most tips i mean our dms are flooded every time we put up a video with our with our fucking swing thoughts our swing tips the whole thing and i'm not even saying and it's not even some of them like there's a percentage of them that are like mean but they're most of some of them are genuine tips that they want like i think the one that guy gave you about the waggle that's a genuine tip because wants to be better at golf. 100%. And I did it.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I did it. I read it and I acted upon it. That's the greatest thing. I've never heard. Yeah. I mean, how do you just ignore that? Like the guys, like I've watched hours upon hours of your swing. I'm noticing one outlier.
Starting point is 00:27:03 It's like right before your swing, your waggle's different. It's tense. You're moving your wrist. He goes just like, let's calm it down. Calm the tension. I'm like, all right, dude. Let's go. Let's go Steve 1207 at hotmail.
Starting point is 00:27:14 com. but to put that in your swing with no guidance of what that's going to do or anything is crazy. Like at least you know with a waggle like what you're going to get out of your game. All of a sudden now you're just taking that tip. But when the guy frames it like, hey, Frankie, all you got to do is just get rid of that waggle and you're just going to be sick. Frankie's like, oh, hell yeah. Like no problem. To standing like sitting in the cart like looking at my phone, getting ready to go out to the first team,
Starting point is 00:27:41 I'm like, oh, this is like this makes sense. until I approached the ball did it not feel ridiculous. Also, you didn't, it sounds like guess you didn't waggle, but then you just did a limp swing. So you didn't even do the sense. When you said loosen up the hands to me,
Starting point is 00:27:55 because something like when you say, like you guys got to swing 37% of your, like, or like the speed has to be on the downswing, all these things make no sense to me. So when you tell me loose hands at, at approach of the ball, I'm thinking I'm barely holding on to this club, which is what I did.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, the soft grip thing away. When someone's like, don't squeeze the club too hard. Sorry. Remember, Kiz told you the fastest part of your swing needs to be ragged when, like, the club makes contact with the ball. And Frankie's like, well, now, hold on here. You're trying to figure that out. And it just messed you up so bad. That was when you bladed one or topped one into the lake at Palmetta.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Said it right before the first tee. Worst first tee shot ever hit. Frankie almost fucking. guy to hit it. Frankie almost fucked my entire swing up at Sand Hollow. You remember when we were on the driving range? And you've been doing that abbreviated follow through with your irons. And you just fucking stripe the ball when you do that. And you're still a little, you know, hesitant to bring it to the actual course. But you told me to do it right before we went out and we were playing a match against each other. And it just, I thought it was going to ruin my whole fucking day. Actually,
Starting point is 00:29:01 I didn't play pretty well. But in that moment, I was like, Frank, you just ruined my golf swing. You've been hitting great iron shots. Like, so there was no reason for me to say anything. But I was absolutely hitting piss missiles on this on this driving range doing this abbreviated follow through so at the kingdom the guy taught me just try and stop the club mentally try and stop the club right after you make contact and it was it was teaching me to finally come down on the ball take divvits get that better launch angle and and when you see a video i think i'm stopping the club right after but when you see a video i'm coming through it it's a it's a beautiful swing it's a beautiful swing. I just haven't gotten used to it enough, like knowing where it's going to go,
Starting point is 00:29:41 how hard we have to swing. So I haven't really used it on the golf course. But I was hitting it so well that Trent was like, man, those things are so good. I'm like, dude, try it once. Just try the fucking abbreviated follow through. And you striped your first one. You hit a seven nine, like a hundred and 185 yards right down the middle. And we were like, oh my God. Your next five swings, you hit five inches behind the ball. And the ball barely got off the driving range pad. Like we didn't even come close to where you were hitting the ball. So then you got to the first tier, like, I'm done. Game over. Golf's over. All this good work is always. It was the last minute we were on the driving range. We were doing it. And as soon as I topped or, you know, chunked my fifth one in a row, we're like, all right, let's head to the first tee. I was like, well, I'm dead. I'm a dead guy, but I put it together. But you're right, though, when you, because you had me take a video of your abbreviated swing, because you thought you were stopping right after you hit it. And you do, you end up going pretty high, but it doesn't feel that way. It's amazing when golf teachers and pros.
Starting point is 00:30:35 tell you to do something mentally. Like I'll always remember when I played in high school golf when I had two good shoulders. I was able to, I did the John Daly swing. Like no joke. I'd always be able to see. And that must be stunning to people listening and watch our stuff because now I have a smaller swing than a shorter back swing than Tony Feene now. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But that's because of my shoulders. I'm not kidding. I used to see my club face in my back swing. And I would just fucking go through it. And I'd have a little baby fade. And it would be per. I'd play it. I'd played out to the right and it'd come back.
Starting point is 00:31:07 It was awesome. And now, let me just clear this up. And now, and now, so I had one teacher at Eisenhower Park golf course tell me, I had one lesson my whole life up until every single golf pro that we've ever met gives me a lesson. I had one lesson. The guy said mentally swing 50%. So I'm like, what does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:31:29 So I do it. And then he shows me the video and it's fucking, and he like matches it up to like where Tiger is. on his little fucking thing. He's like, you're right there. Like, that's your 50%. You're perfect. You're 100% of the correct swing. So when you do that mental stuff, like stop the club face after impact, you think like,
Starting point is 00:31:47 oh, I'm going to look fucking ridiculous stopping right here. It's like, no, dude, look at the video. You're all the way up here. You're insane. It's all mental. Dude, the feel versus real part of golf is shocking. And when you actually see stuff and like when Bush was talking about how they, you know, he had to like mail and FedEx videos to Tiger of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:05 you know, stuff about his swing because you can't until you see it, you don't believe it. You're like, no, that's not. Like what you're saying is wrong. Then you look at it. Oh, my God, 50% is like a full golf strike or when you feel like you're sawing it off. And it's like, no, that's just a pretty full follow through. So the whole feel versus real thing in golf and how true it always is and how different your swing looks compared to what you actually think. Like Jim Furik says that.
Starting point is 00:32:29 He's like, no, my back swing. I always, I think my back swing looks like Tiger Woods. Like, it just feels like I'm swinging like Tiger Woods. but I'm swinging like Jim do. Yeah, it's great. Really it's crazy. The bottom line is it's really impressive that we even know how to hold a golf club with all the tips we get all the time.
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Starting point is 00:36:53 tweet and said, good news if he misses the Masters, he can shoot another six commercials that week. Yikes. Heater. Out of the clouds. And I mean, if you really, think about that. I mean, that it's, it's like Jim Nance just like roasting somebody on, like this is, he commentates the, like that's what he does. He calls the mattress and just
Starting point is 00:37:14 taking it out of the cloud shot at Ricky. They asked Ricky about it multiple times this past week and he finally did address it. And he took the higher road like he always does. He says, no, I know where Nick was trying to come from on that. He essentially said, you know, it's, it's competitor to competitor.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You're trying to needle each other and get each other going. type of thing. I'm fortunate enough to have great partners, make some great commercials. It's been fun to be able to do that. I would much rather be playing the week of the master's than working, but it's all part of it. I'm going to keep kicking down the door. If we're able to do something special in the next few weeks before Augusta, we will be there. If not, we'll keep grinding and we'll be back in the winter circle soon. So Ricky just took, you know, the classiest high road that you possibly can, which I think he comes out looking like the real winner in this one.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I think the further we get down this road with Nick Faldo, and by that, I mean, the older he gets, the more interesting it's going to get. He, like, we all know, we know Nick Falo. We interviewed him at Borrelli's. And he's, he's a very interesting guy and he's a very opinionate guy. He's also a guy who, what's up? What a ridiculous day that. Like, the fact that you just said that is such a fake life funny thing.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He was just sitting there. He had dinner first at Borrellys and then we interviewed him like in one of the rooms. Fucking Nick Faldo. Yeah. We just tried to get your Imagine Dragons quotes in. ridiculous. That's right. When we were interviewed them,
Starting point is 00:38:35 we tried to say as many Imagine Dragon songs as we could in our questions. I think we got like 13 or 14. Yeah. If you guys want to go back and listen, every time Trent and I speak during that interview,
Starting point is 00:38:45 we try and get a title of an Imagine Dragon song in there. So it was, you know, I had in front of me, like the outline for the interview and then in front of Trent and Frankie,
Starting point is 00:38:54 each one of them just had Imagine Dragon Spotify up. Yeah. They were just going through the song titles trying to get them into the, into their sentences. Any reason that you picked Imagine Dragons? Like why that group versus another?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yes, because Nick Faldo references Imagine Dragons during his master's to win with Patrick Green one, right? Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the New Age. Welcome to the New Age, he said when Patrick Reed put it out on 18. And it was like, or maybe Nance said it. I can't.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Oh, it was him. Yeah. Nick Fowler got wrapped into saying, imagine something about Imagine Dragons when Patrick Creed was walking down the 18th fairway at August. and it just became like a thing and we tried to work in as many titles as we could. Dude, at one point he goes, I didn't want to drink the scotch and I'm like, no, that stuff's radioactive to me. And that's when I really thought, I really thought we got caught there.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But he didn't pick up on it. But he is a guy to that point who kind of lives in his own world a little bit. And I just think that he, like when he says something like that about Ricky, I think he just thinks that it's funny and it's like, it is what it is. is like i think we're going to get a lot more of that from nick faldo as the years carry on is my point okay i like that i mean there was a stretch people might forget where just every day nick fowlo just roasted me on twitter for just every day for like months he just would chirp me all the time so um and then i sat in at pinerce at the deuce and he just like made fun of me and said that
Starting point is 00:40:22 i suck the whole time when he when we interviewed him so sir nick is you know like you said trant we got an interesting history with him he is quite the character and i think he he he he is just continuing to be more and more interesting, we'll call it, and like firing a shot out of the clouds at Ricky Fowler is something that I do want more of, even though I think Ricky looks way better here. But I want more of it from certain things. And actually, what his tweet says is, I don't know if necessarily everyone would agree with it, but it's true to a degree, no? Like, Ricky Fowler is very brand positive. He's very popular with the brands. He's very popular in the in the general public kids love him you know adults love him like he is very much in
Starting point is 00:41:05 then he's in a lot of commercials and he just hasn't been playing well recently so yeah it's a fucked up ricochet shot to give him but it's not necessarily 100% inaccurate no I think it's very accurate but it just was so like there was no reason for him to just do like that clearly just crossed his mind when he saw it and he gets like it's almost to me it is it showed maybe that, like, Fowldo didn't do all of that crap, like, right? He was pretty locked in his own world. He focused. He played golf.
Starting point is 00:41:38 He was known as being like Nick Fowldos and Nick Fowledo's world. And that's sort of what he does. So then he's got somebody else who does pretty much the exact opposite. Like, Ricky is everywhere. And I imagine, like, it is a little weird on the weekends. Like when Ricky misses the cut and his commercials are just all over the place. Like, you get that with a few different golfers when they miss the cut. But when it happens to Ricky and when he has kind of the reputation,
Starting point is 00:41:59 of getting chirped for being like overrated and not winning enough. And they had the players poll a few years ago, I believe it was, which maybe it was 2015 right before he won the players championship when he was voted as like the number one or number two most like overrated player by his peers. So clearly Ricky's got that history. But you're right. It wasn't it wasn't like inappropriate. And I'm glad that Ricky didn't take it as a vicious attack.
Starting point is 00:42:25 He sort of just brushed it off as like, oh yeah, just guys kind of chirping. Yeah, I guess you're right. he could be making a larger point about like what's really important to this generation of golfers. Is it is it getting all these deals and making a ton of money and being in commercials or is it winning major championships? Like which one is it? It's an interesting. It's an interesting. It's an interesting. Like in the private area.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Like when they see each other, there's Ricky be like, yeah, Nick, like, Sir Nick, like, what the fuck was that? You know what I mean? It's just like what that banter is. But Frankie, what were you going to say? I just, I think, um, to Trent's question, like that crew, I think very much cares about results. Um, I think once you have some results, I think it's very tight knit community of like, who's the better guy out of that career. Like J.T.
Starting point is 00:43:15 You got that whole entire, I mean, the Jordan Spee, um, just Thomas, Ricky Fowler. Like no one wants to be worse than the other guy, Smiley Kaufman, rest in peace. No one wants to be the worst guy out of that crew. Like JT's running away with it. he wouldn't believe right now. But I think it's got, like, we've talked about Ricky at length on this fucking show. And I think that that chirp from Nick Faldo definitely hits him in spots that he's like, this motherfucker like, yeah, I do want to fucking win.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I don't care about the commercials anymore. I've worn the orange shirt for like 10 years now. I've done that. First, we've got to get that guy away from Puma. He's like, he's going to be 40 years old rocking a fucking orange popsicle jumpsuit, like for the kids. Like, let's get this guy into something like a little more adult like and then maybe it'll change his game.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But that's another point for another day. Just another ricochet shot at the guy with Rick... It was trying to be nice to him and then finished with just stepping on his head. You know what, though? I don't disagree with that. It's like when a baseball player or basketball player gets traded somewhere else and it's a nice change of scenery and they end up having the best season of their career. Like, I do think he's caught in this mode.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You almost need him. You almost need a heel turn from Ricky Fowler where he turns into the bad guy. And all the sponsors fucking drop him because he's going off the handle in interviews. Like, we've been to... in this lane for so long and he's very comfortable in that lane where I'm the likable guy, wear orange on Sundays, look at me that I can make a commercial for you. It almost, he needs more of an edge and maybe that'll give him the winning edge too. He, he, like, has very, like, when he was growing up, it was, he was like Zach Efroni, right,
Starting point is 00:44:47 with the hair and he had the looks. Just like when Zach Ephron was in high school musical, right? And he was like the kid and all like the little girls liked him and all this stuff. And then Zach Ephron became a fucking sex god and, like, has awesome fucking bull. blonde hair and fucking he changed his demeanor like i'm not the fucking kid that was in high school musical anymore ricky fowler is still the guy bouncing the basketball singing fucking high high school musical songs he's walking down the 18th fairway at augustin national in a popsicle outfit with a fucking big pee on his hat and all little kids like ricky like they're going crazy like
Starting point is 00:45:19 no dude you want you want you want panty droppers at this point like you're in your 30s like let's you're going into like the prime of what should be your career like let's fucking change the outfit a little bit. I think that would go a long way. A massive overhaul for Ricky Fowler. Start calling him Rick. Oh, my God. Slick Rick? Oh, dude. Get like slick black hair, fucking black hat. Dude, I honestly could not agree more with that. If you want to stick with Puma, like make him like the black Puma or something. You know, like, very good point. It's a very good point because he's, he gets a little bit of the of the Rory where it's like he doesn't seem to have that edge. He seems to be kind of content a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Obviously he doesn't have the resume that Rory has, but he's also a fucking megastar. Like when we go to tournaments, is there, is, what is he a top three? It's like Tiger Phil, Ricky, Rory, like who else? Who else is in there in terms of fandom? He is a megastar.
Starting point is 00:46:17 It has nothing to do with his play. Nothing. Like at this point. I mean, at this point, I mean, at some point, like, it has, it has very little to do with his, current abilities to win golf tournaments because he's not doing that. So his status, his commercials, his money continues to go up because of this Mickey Mouse
Starting point is 00:46:39 Disneyland fucking thing. But his, his play goes down. So at some point, it's like, hey, thank you, Orange Popsicle for getting me to where I am. But I need to put you in the corner now. And I need to now get this chart of winning and productivity up. And I think it directly correlates with the color of his shirt. as crazy as that sounds. As crazy as that sounds,
Starting point is 00:47:00 I think it directly correlates with his whole entire demeanor. He should just come out and murdered out outfits from now. Oh, God. That would be, and call slick Rick, bro. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Dude, that would be, please let that happen. I know he probably loves the spot that he's in right now. Well, he might not, though. Like, he might be in this prison of like corporate positivity, where he's just like,
Starting point is 00:47:25 yeah, it's great that my bank account is massive. and I'm brand safe. But like, who gives a fuck about that if you're not winning any golf tournaments or even coming close to winning golf tournaments? It's just got to get to him, man. Walking around your peers, all your buddies, like his best buddies are just fucking killing it.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Right. Like, you just have to want to win. You know he wants to win. That's how, that's why he's Ricky Fowler. We talk about how hard it is to get to where these guys are in the first place. They're the best in the world. You think at some, you think like they're only out there for a fucking. check and some coin.
Starting point is 00:47:58 No. They want to win. That's why they got there in the first place. This guy needs a fucking brand overhaul. It is crazy. Like we just spoke about how Ricky's probably agrees like a top five biggest star at pretty at any golf tournament. And he hasn't won a tournament in over two years.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And he's since September 2015, he's won twice. So it's been pretty much six years. and two wins, and he is a megastar in the world of golf. So he's on the same trajectory is Matt Jones. What's his world? Matt Jones has won twice in like seven years. I want to say he's like 81st or something like that. Jesus, that is just a slip.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah, 81 is your spot on. I got to say 81 is higher than I would have thought. Really? How is healthy. This is always tricky, higher which way. Yeah, it's a good point. It's tricky. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Lower or higher? A higher number, but... Yeah, yeah, I thought he would have been lower. No, it's higher. But lower, like, in the rankings or lower numerically? Lower in the rankings. Do you think he'd go from 81 to 82 or 81 to 80? My brain hurts.
Starting point is 00:49:18 81 to 82. So that's got to be... You thought he was going to be closer to like 100? Or what did you mean? Yes. That's what I meant. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:26 That's got to lower. You were talking about it in the right way. You were talking about it in the right way of, like, golf rankings. That would be higher. If you thought he would be lower, then you would think closer to one. But if somebody says he's wrong. Right. If somebody says you're higher in the rankings, I think that means you're like number one.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Like, think about it this way. Think about it this way. We're in the middle of March Madness right now. A lower seed is what? No, no, no. I'm out. I'm out. I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:49:52 You're right. I don't want to talk about it. What is a lower? Wait, now I think it's the other way. A lower seed. A lower seed is like a two. Nope, that's wrong. No.
Starting point is 00:50:03 They say the higher seed one. The higher seed is closer to one. Dude, I think. No. Come on. Really? Like tonight, Ohio's the lower seed? Correct.
Starting point is 00:50:16 No, higher seed. Nope. Higher seed. They're the lower seed. I think they're the higher seed. Oh, fuck. I think there's people, we fouled us up in just the continual basis.
Starting point is 00:50:30 This came on the wrong day, too. Did you guys see that UFO shit? Oh, God. Tell me he saw that. He's stressing looking down at this article. Dude, this fucking guy, the Pentagon. Tell me about the UFO. Pentagon Report is coming out about UFOs.
Starting point is 00:50:48 So John Rackle was the top intelligence official under former President Donald Trump, and he's just like talking about what he saw. And it's, I mean, the guy is a normal It's not like he's a senile old man. He's saying like these are things that are going to come out, official government data that they have to release.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Apparently a part of the bill to pass the latest stimulus check was that the government has to release all the information they have about aliens. It was like snuck into this. It was snuck into the same bill. They just shove things into those bills. It's really something. A forthcoming government report will reveal evidence of UFOs breaking the sound barrier without a sonic boom and other quote unquote difficult to explain phenomena.
Starting point is 00:51:28 the former director of national intelligence said. Holy fuck. There are a lot more sightings than have been made public. And when we talk about sightings, we're talking about objects that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots or have been picked up by multiple satellite imagery that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain. I mean, boys, this is tough.
Starting point is 00:51:50 This is, this is it. I actually thought about you the other day and something else. What was your line about the moon? We only see one side of it or whatever. because this thing is up like in the middle of the day, the moon is like directly above me. And I can't believe that that's true. And they say we only see one side of the moon from Earth.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Like it rotates with us. You never see the other side. It's amazing that they're just still trying to be correct about this. Well, no, no, I'm not saying I'm correct. You could see the other side of the moon. That was so tough, dude. That was, well, whatever. But when the sun, when I see it at night,
Starting point is 00:52:23 when I see it at night, and then I also see it at noon, and I see the moon just, I just, it really, it sends me into it. Same side, bro. Every time it's lying to you. That can't be true. It is. Same craters. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:52:37 We got to get somebody on who's knowledgeable in this area who's a thought leader. A leader in the thought space? It's literally, it's a fact. Have we talked about, and we talked about on Casey Radio, we talked about it in the car. Did we talk about how aliens just missed us? Yeah. Did we talk about that on the show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Okay. Yeah. that's something that really needs to start. I don't think we talked about in the show. I think we talked about it driving out to Wolf Creek or maybe Sand Hollow. It was San Hollow. And we talked about it on KSRata, but we did not talk about it on this program. I don't even know if that's true because I feel like we talked about it so much.
Starting point is 00:53:11 But I will just bring it up again. And this may be the best alien talk that we can possibly come up with where I think the most listeners, this will be where the listeners finally are like, all right, Frankie made a good point. And it's not even my point. Barstle cheap is the one who brought me on to this. It's the fact that you talk about how the, and I'm going to throw a number out there, and I'm always, I could be way off by billions of years, but the earth is what,
Starting point is 00:53:37 six billion years old? I think you're close. It's 4.5 or something like that. 4.5 billion years old, right? But we've only been around, like human existence, where it would look like it was habitable by like humans and dinosaurs or whatever, has been around for what? Two billion years, a billion years?
Starting point is 00:53:55 I'm going to say dinosaurs were a couple hundred million years ago. Oh, geez. All right. So now you've got this window of like three to four billion years of like an inhabitable world. Most of our Earth's life has been this like volcanic like combustion crazy like hurricane. Like when you see these other fucking Venus and all these other fucking places, it's just like how could anything ever live there? they can't right no water so the idea is if an alien life or world had finally ventured trillions of thousands of light years out of their solar system out of their galaxy finally
Starting point is 00:54:39 got into hours the odds are that they saw our world and our surrounding worlds as inhabitable and and no imaginable life could possibly exist on it and then they just went on their way and continued throughout the endless galaxy into other galaxies. Like, we are just a speck of time in the cosmic calendar in which they would have to find us. It would be like finding a fucking hole, like a needle in a haystack to be able to fucking, we've been here for a cup of coffee, all right?
Starting point is 00:55:13 And they, they- These bristles are making me thirsty. They've been around forever, dude. Yeah. So that one always is like, you know what, man, we probably just missed them and they missed us because we're we haven't do think about how yeah think about how how how long this actual planet's been around and how little we've had the technology
Starting point is 00:55:38 to even know if someone is in the sky it's been like what 80 years or so like even less like we don't even know like we never even had the technology to know if anyone was looking outside of our fucking sky. So what the fuck do we think? How important do we think our lives are that we think they're going to come down in our one second of the cosmic universe? Come on. It's the most rational. You have like math on your side in terms of chances of that happening. So I agree. I think it's the most rational argument against humans, you know, meeting aliens someday. We also thought that like the sun was carried across the sky by a fucking chariot. Until a couple hundred years ago.
Starting point is 00:56:20 We were like, you know what was another one? Another great point you were saying was like, think about how far we've come in the last 150 years in terms of technology advances, everything, human advances, everything. It lasts like 50 years. Yeah, but last 50 years, last 20 years, whatever. And think about there's, there's, you know, could be other civilizations in another universe who have been doing this for three million years. Like just imagine what this place is going to be like in 100 years.
Starting point is 00:56:48 like think about the advances that are going to be made and then you times that by 10,000 or a 100,000. There's there's probably civilizations out there that are just so far advanced than us. It's just crazy to think about it. If someone else lives on another world in which it doesn't like destroy itself with like fucking volcanoes and comets, if they've been able to to actually build upon their civilization for a number of years, thousands, hundreds of thousands of years or whatever it is, you're talking. the advancements are something we can't even comprehend. Like the word advancements probably doesn't even fucking,
Starting point is 00:57:25 like they don't even have, they don't even speak. They just look at each other and things fucking pop up. The technology is something we can't even comprehend. Yes, because again, like take what we've done in 40, 50 years with the iPhones, the,
Starting point is 00:57:39 if you took somebody from 100 years, 150 years ago, from the 1800s, which is, that's yesterday. It's not that long ago. And you just play. them at like an airport and they just saw fucking giant machines flying through the sky and should be like, whoa, what is what how did this happen? What is going on here? Now, I mean, if Earth's 4.5 billion years, if we've done that in the last 50, 100, couple hundred years, like you're saying, now,
Starting point is 00:58:05 just imagine like 10 million years from now, right? Like the dinosaur era, they, I'm looking up 245 million years ago to 66 million years ago. So those motherfuckers were around for almost 200 million years. So now, imagine. of humans, like, imagine 100 million years from now where we could be with tech now. A hundred million years. I don't want to think about that.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I want to start screaming and crying. I actually want to start screaming and crying right now. Because I'm going to be dead. I'm going to be dead by then, so I won't even see it. I won't even... Super dead. I'm going to be so dead.
Starting point is 00:58:41 In 100 million years. Dead. I can't have a fun death, man. Just to bring this. just to bring this sort of back to earth. No pun, but there's no, there was, Nate Bargatsy put out a new special, our guy, Nate.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I refuse to watch it. What do you mean? I refuse to watch it because you know why? You know why, dude? Because he's the funniest motherfucker that I've ever met or been around. And he's my favorite comedian or top two comedian of all. Yeah, he's probably my favorite comedian. I love Sebastian Manascalco also.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Louis C.K. Before everything happened to him, he was one of my top favorites of all time. But listen, Nate, there's nothing better than going to a comedian's fucking show with their new material and seeing it for the first time live. And I want to go to a Nate Bar Gatsy show so fucking badly. And I want to laugh to the point where I can't breathe anymore. And I feel like I'll lose that moment if I watch it on Netflix. I don't want to laugh in my room while I'm fucking soiling myself.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I want to sit inside a comedy bar and watch Nate Bargatsy do it live. What do you think about that? You were kind of cutting out on my end. but I think I got the gist of what you're saying. I did watch it. I understand what you're saying. Like, seeing a comedian live is when you're, it's like a night. And you're like, all right, we're going to go to this specific venue and we're just going to laugh and laugh and laugh.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Like, I've been doing enough comedy shows where there's really nothing better than that when you're like doubled over laughing at a joke you had never heard before. Like there's few experiences that are better than that. But I wanted to watch his new special so badly. Like, I feel like when the Tennessee kid came out from when that came out to when this one came out was. so long and I so badly wanted new Napar Gatsy material that I just had to watch it and it's phenomenal and the reason I bring it up during the alien
Starting point is 01:00:26 conversation is because one of his early jokes in the in the special is about aliens and about how we're now figuring or finding out that aliens are probably around. I'm not going to do his joke but everyone should watch it. It's just he's just so effortlessly funny that
Starting point is 01:00:42 he is like you were saying Frankie he is easily one of my favorite comedians of all time and if you don't want to wait or if you can't wait until you get to, you're able to see him live or he comes to your town. Just watch the special on Netflix because it's super fucking fun. And now, now the general public should not listen to what,
Starting point is 01:00:58 what I'm doing. Like, it's on Netflix. You're going to watch it. Go watch it. Like, give the guy fucking views because he is going to be the most watched standup. That will be like the most watched standup special on Netflix going right now.
Starting point is 01:01:09 People will go crazy for us. So John Fidelberg said it's like maybe the funniest special he's ever seen his entire life. You are saying now you have rave reviews. I just personally know I will be going to a Naparagazzi show because I want to see him that badly. I'm going to do everything I can to meet him somewhere in one of these towns. We all have to do it as a show because he wants us to go to a show.
Starting point is 01:01:30 He's come on this show and he's like, you guys have to come to a show. And I want to experience that night seeing his new material for the first time. I just, there's just something about him where I know that it would be so much better if I had never seen it before. I'm very in with that take, Frankie, especially like that's,
Starting point is 01:01:47 it's not the same thing. It's not because going to a show is way cool. But generally, like, I don't like to know anything about a golf course before I show up. And I like to see it. I don't want to do a flyover. I don't want to, like, when I walk up to a hole or drive a car up to a hole, I want to see it for the first time in real life. And be like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So I actually, I'm into that. I'm going to try to restrain myself. It might be tough, but I'm into. Dude, last night I was hovering. When are we going to be able to go to shows? Last night I was hovering over the fucking Netflix thing. And it was like I was, it was like I was a, it was a, drug addict. That was like, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't watch it. Because once you watch a second.
Starting point is 01:02:24 It's called the greatest average American for those if you're trying to look out. But if you just look up. It's a great name. I understand what you guys are saying. And we have to go to a show like you guys are saying he wants us to come to a show. That'll be an awesome time. I just, I, the Tennessee kid, I have maybe watched no joke 30 times. It's just so. That came out in what? Like 2018, 2017, maybe even earlier? Probably 2018. I would. I'd be my best guest. I've waited this long for new Nate Bargatzi. I can wait another however long it's going to be so I can see him in person.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I've just, it's one of my dreams to see him alive. I had a dream to watch Louis C. K. live and I drove to fucking like Virginia to go watch him. And he had new standup at the time. And I remember I almost threw up in the seat. I was laughing. Like I just want that moment again. So I need to do this.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I need. There might not be any better live entertainment than a good community. Like it is, because there's nothing better than laughing. Like, playoff hockey's awesome. Good concerts, awesome. But like, when you're, as Trent said, just belly, like, I've gone to a few Bill Bersh and I just die. I'm dying in my chair and I can barely breathe.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And like, that's the hardest part is to get oxygen in your body to laugh again because they're just so good. Dude, pre-pandemic, when everyone was still doing shows, I had a ticket to a Nate Bargatsy show that our guy, Nate Dog, bought me. We were going to go to a show. I was going to go with him, John Fidelberg, and a couple other people from the office. And a golf trip. I can't remember what when it was came up that we were going to film something.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And I couldn't go. And I was like, oh, I'll just catch him the next time he's around New York City. And then the world fell apart. And I, so I was just like, I was so close to going and seeing him live, doing likely some of the material that he put in this new special. And it just, I just couldn't make the scheduling work. So I, I couldn't wait. I understand wanting to wait, but I simply could not. You've got pent up, Bargast.
Starting point is 01:04:14 show excitement. He's just so fucking funny. So fucking funny. His last show was going to be in Red Bank, New Jersey, in the Count Basie Theater, I think. When he was on our show, he was talking about how his last show was going to be in Jersey, and then the world shot and couldn't make it happen, obviously.
Starting point is 01:04:28 But you guys, do you guys know it can be a little frustrating, especially if you're running perhaps a little late? What's that? Find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train. Yeah. Oh, dude. This happened to me. This happened to me.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I don't know where this is going, but this happened to me. I was in Arizona on a vacation. This was like five years ago. Like right before I started at Barcelona, I went to go see the Grand Canyon and the whole thing. We're rushing to the airport because I'm usually, I like the thrill.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I don't know why. I don't like getting places. I love the thrill. Like sometimes like in the morning, I'll like do the math. Like, all right, it's going to take us like eight minutes to get to the train. Let's leave like nine minutes from that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Like I fucking love that rush. You did that in Vegas when you and I were going to the airport. We made a plan the night before. We'll take the rental car back and go to the airport together. And then I woke up the next morning. You're like, I'm running late. I got to take an Uber. And you were probably just, you weren't doing anything.
Starting point is 01:05:26 You were probably just sitting in your hotel room getting yourself revved up about potentially missing place. Sitting there all packed. Just like, you know, let's just let's get the heart pumping a little bit. Let's get that fucking whoop up. But here we go. Real quick, we're driving. And I'm like, all right, like, we're fine. At this point, we were trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Ooh, I just got a weird buzzing in my ear. That was weird. at this point we were what the hell's going on my ear drum I can't speak right I'm getting like a buzz at this point we weren't trying to do that Are you having an aneurysm right now on the podcast I had like a little bit of water
Starting point is 01:05:55 I think from like a shower this morning and it was like You know when you get like a little water droplet in your ear And it makes that like but It's like every word you say is getting like magnified That happened We were on our way to a fucking airport And I'm like all right There's no chance we're going to be late
Starting point is 01:06:08 Everyone's screaming at me I'm like we're going to be there We get to this fucking street And the railroad crossing thing comes down. So I'm like, let's go. We've got maybe 30 minutes to get inside this airport, drop this rental car. Bro, it was one of those country mile trains that I had never witnessed in my entire life. I thought it was a movie.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I thought it was in only the movies. This thing comes, I don't know, a 12 minute long train, maybe, maybe 15 minute long train. It never ended to the port around. I got out of the car. And I'm like, now what the fuck is happening now? I'm looking down the railroad track saying, I'm looking back at the car saying it never ends. I was going, dude, I was going fucking crazy. I'm like, this train never ends.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Long story short, we missed the flight and we had to get one like the next morning because of that fucking country mile train. So go on to whatever you're going to say because I had a bad experience with that shit. Well, what I was going to say is if the signals are going and the train's not even there yet, you may feel a bit tempted, especially if you're in Frankie Borelli's shoes to try and sneak across the tracks. Oh, wow. Don't. Ever. Nope.
Starting point is 01:07:16 To the naked eye, trains often appear to be further away and moving slower than they actually are, and they cannot stop quickly. That's just a fact. Look at a train and just can't stop very quickly. Even if the engineer hits the emergency breaks right away, it can take a train over a mile to stop. Over a mile to stop. By that time, it's far too late. The result is a potentially deadly crash. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive.
Starting point is 01:07:41 the train can't stop quickly, even if it sees you, it very well could end a disaster. If the signals are on, the train is on its way. You need to remember one thing. Stop because trains cannot. That's our little announcement about trains. We want you to be safe out there. We want you to be smart. If you see the signals, stop.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It's not worth it. You're going to get where you're going, but you need to get there safely. So that's our little public service. Trains are so, that's a good PSA. And trains are so long in the Midwest that as soon as the things drop and the train starts coming, people start turning around and they just, they're like, I got to find an alternate route because there's just like, we can't, we can't wait around this long. Because on average, I'd say they last like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, they're forever. They're just long. And like it takes them a mile to stop. Think about that. Crazy.

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