Fore Play - Riggs Island, Cantlay > Bryson, & Brandon Wu Joins

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

What a playoff. Bryson falls to Patrick Cantlay and there’s plenty of chatter to go around. “Patrick, stop walking please.” Bryson allegedly having a confrontation with a fan post-round. Cantlay... draining putts. Rory throwing clubs. In East Lake talk, Riggs finds himself on a rare island discussing the Tour Championship scoring format. Finally, Brandon Wu (01:30:12) joins the show to discuss life on the Korn Ferry Tour, what it means graduating to the PGA Tour, and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I'm right barstool sports. We are all in different places, but we have the whole squads myself, Trent, Frankie, and Lurch. Big day. We have a huge playoff to break down a lot that obviously came from it. The most polarizing, controversial, news-creating figure in golf in the last four or five years. D'Shaambo.
Starting point is 00:00:31 And again, there's outside of the playoff, there's interactions with fans. There's all kinds of shit to break down from Bryson. I'm in Detroit. We're at the Barstall Classic Walnut Creek. We have this cool hat to the game. It says, The Creek on it. Boys, how are we? How is everyone doing?
Starting point is 00:00:48 Great, honestly. Just an incredible weekend of golf. So I'm in a great mood today. I'm doing well, but I'm in the office in New York City, Barstle headquarters, and my internet's already spotty. So, hopefully, I get to participate in the majority of this podcast, but Riggs is already doing the robot voice. So I hope that it seems like it's strong now.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Was that robot voicey for anyone else? No, no, no. It's just because the internet's like super laggy. Ooh, yeah, you're, yeah, you're jumping around. I will say in classic Barstall fashion, A, the internet, you know, doesn't work at the headquarters of our giant internet company. And then B, we were at the Barstable Sportsbook last night, and Greek Town, which is lovely, brand new.
Starting point is 00:01:33 They got a great restaurant, great food, all kinds of cool stuff. But they have the satellite TV, and there was a massive storm that came through. So just in the sports book, the TV just kept going out. So it was like all business Pete had been in charge of that, too. So it was very funny, Barso. They were only out for like 10 minutes or something. They went out like two or three times during the fights, and you don't know what's going on because you're in a casino
Starting point is 00:01:57 and in a casino it's like you're in a cave obviously it's like your own little world so all of a sudden the tvs are spurn out so it's you know martial sports that's what you're going to get that's the difference yeah i'm doing well um i got back from a bachelor party yesterday so it's been quite the weekend volume's really low i can't hear you is that your voice is that i didn't know if you're losing your voice or if you had no volume can you guys hear me now it's a little louder A little better. Can you hear me now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:25 We thought you had a mousy voice from the bachelor party. I don't have a mousy voice. Don't talk about my mousy voice. I got back from a bachelor party yesterday. You know, I never cracked over a 4% recovery on the whoop since Thursday. So,
Starting point is 00:02:39 you know, we're looking at really, really, really tired Frankie on a Monday. But it's fine. It's absolutely fine. You know, we had the Borelli's pop-up shop
Starting point is 00:02:49 with Slice and Barstle Sports. Wednesday and Thursday and went straight to the bachelor party that next morning so it's been it's been quite the scene but boy was it nice to watch some golf yesterday in my bed just didn't move just ordered some takeout just didn't move frank y'all yesterday oh yeah yeah well we got back a little later than I wanted to so yeah I mean it was it was like a forced try and relax as hard as you can as quick as you can but there was a lot of disgusting food a lot of ice cream and then just a lot of lot of sleep just now. What was the step counter at?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Was it low? For yesterday? Yeah, as low as it could get. Brandon Wu, we have Corn Ferry Tour player. Brandon Wu is on the show. A little bit of a different look. Kind of gives you a peek into,
Starting point is 00:03:39 he just got his, you know, he played well enough this year on the Corn Ferry Tour to get his PGA tour card for next season. A little bit different look. Kind of the non-glamorous side of professional golf, the grind, Stanford guy. So we kind of go in through, you know, his career, his, his path towards the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And again, give you kind of a different look this time of year as you start to see stories pop up on Twitter on golf sites from folks whose kind of lives are changed. They get their PGA tour card. So it was, again, a little bit different look kind of the coming up through the minor leagues of golf, if you will, and ultimately making your way onto the PGA tour, what it's like in the Corn Ferry Tour versus the PGA Tour from doing laundry to food to all kinds of different stuff. So Brandon Wu is coming up at the end of the show. Really nice guy and obviously a really good player. I think I looked. He was 10 under par, tied for 27 or something this past week.
Starting point is 00:04:27 He kind of goes into the difference between golf courses on the Corn Ferry Tour versus the PGA Tour and the scoring. So it's interesting. Speaking of the scoring, preposterously low this week at Caves Creek in Baltimore, we of course had Bryson versus Patrick Cantlay. We'll get to that. We've got to get to Owens Mixers first, our title sponsor.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I've been with us for a very long time now. I believe Trent Daddy's got some Owens now as he sort of flashes on it off the screen and he pauses occasionally, but he's got those puppies right there and his nice, strong Iowan mitts. He's holding those Owens Mixers. They're great. You just get Amazon and you get him shipped to you the next day. You can go pick them up at a store.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You go to Owensmixers.com, but you just poured in with your liquor and choice fellows and you have a great cocktail. Is that right? Spot on. Spot on. What flavors you got there, T? I've got the new margarita mix, and I've also got the ginger beer and lime. This margarita mix is really good. We drink those during cutting stems.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's one of their newer mixers. It's a very, very delicious. It's very summery drink. That's right. We were down in Fort Lauderdale, and we had some Owens mixers, stopped and got it, got it out of CVS. It was just there. The Owens Mixers was just available. And we got that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We were drinking them, enjoying them as much as we possibly could. It's just a great drink. We actually went to a golf course that didn't have it, and they used, like, a Gatorade as their transfusion mix, and we talked to the people there, and we said, this is unacceptable. It was just an adult gatorade. They then went on the website, and we're like, we're going to switch this around, and we're going to get this Owens Mixers mix. So sales were made, changes were made at golf courses.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Owens Mixers is the way to go. You can't start making your own transfusion. This is already done for you. Yeah, straighten them out, Frankie. It's good. We straightened it out. Owens mixture. I believe, too, I just got word.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Our buddy Josh from Owens was all fired up sending me. All caps, text messages about Rider Cup whistling straight. I think they're going to have Owens Mixers all over that thing. Trent is now basically turned into cousin Mike Portnoy in terms of his presence on the show where the screen is looking at the ceiling and like half of his forehead. I think he's trying to find a better location with better internet connection. Just figure it out, dude. What do you think I'm trying to do?
Starting point is 00:06:45 If I wasn't moving, I wouldn't be trying to figure it out. You see what I'm saying? That's a good point. That's a fair point. All right. I just got to move to a different room. I'm sorry. He's actually in the process of figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But Owens makes her big thanks to them. Okay. A lot to break down from yesterday. Awesome playoff. As entertaining as golf can be really. When you've got the storylines and you've got the amount of money that's on the line. And you've got two people who don't really get this that often in golf.
Starting point is 00:07:15 get down to two folks, two players, and they're in the same group where a lot of times leaderboards can change. It's a jumble leaderboard. Somebody's kind of in a group in front or two groups ahead and they make a charge and then they get in the clubhouse and their leaderboard watching. This was just mono-e-mono. They had like a five-shot lead kind of making the turn and then the two of them just went back and forth, toe-to-to-to-all, all the way down the stretch. Bryson pretty much had the thing locked up. It looked like six different times and somehow did not win the tournament. You know, I placed a bet at the Marshall Sportsbook on Bryson on, I think the eighth hole, he was down a stroke to Patrick Cantlay. And when you're looking, too, they're both, I mean, 27 and 28 under at the time
Starting point is 00:07:59 or something. So I'm like a stroke with 11 holes left. One stroke is nothing. That's just like a punt. And Bryson's hitting the ball a mile on the first hole. Everybody's looking at that, the shot link data difference where the entire spread, the whole plot of the field, and then Bryson's ball was like 50 yards ahead. Everybody else up in the green side bunker. So he's hitting the ball a mile. That place you could just bottom the ball as far as you possibly wanted. He was hitting pretty straight for him too. So I threw some money on Bryson. There's a point on the 17th hole where Bryson is up a stroke. He's basically sitting on the fringe chipping. He's one of the best players in the world. And his opponent is down a stroke and in the water. And he did not win the
Starting point is 00:08:36 fucking tournament. So I was infuriated at Bryson, of course, the one time I bet on that fucking giant freak, he just blows it time and time and time again and doesn't win the golf tournament. But again, there's just a lot to get to. There's a lot of little tidbits from throughout. There's different stories
Starting point is 00:08:53 and anecdotes, but overall playoff was fantastic. I imagine we're all going to agree that it was wildly entertaining to watch. Yeah, it's as good as golf can get. It was a non-Tiger Woods event and a non-major event, just a regular, you know, playoff,
Starting point is 00:09:08 um, PGA tour event. That's as good as it's ever been for me. I mean, man, was it fucking edge of your seat? Fist bumps in the bed while I was watching it for guys making them, for guys missing them, sending text messages to group chats.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Like group chats were firing. That's how you know that that golf is, is really firing on all cylinders is when you're getting massive amounts of text messages about certain puts and certain hits. And like golf is never like that. Golfs on every Sunday and you don't hear a peep from people about it because PGA Tour on in general is very boring. But when it's on, it's fucking on.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I don't know that there's better entertainment in sports. Like it's hard to get better than two guys going at it. And like hitting bomb putts, missing putts. It's so fucking good. On the green in a playoff, of a playoff in the PGA Tour is as good as it gets. Canley couldn't miss, too. It was like, and I agree with you. When like you're getting text from your dad and everybody being like, can you believe this playoff?
Starting point is 00:10:05 That's when you know people are glued into it. And then what I was thinking about is because I, you know, we always talk about the U.S. Open carnage, people dying. When it's 28 under, I know it like looks gimmicky, but that's amazing to watch the fact that they can just terrorize a course like that, making birdies one after another. And so it made me think like, do I actually like when they can just go 30 under in a weekend? But yeah, it was incredible all the way through.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I know you had, you know, responsible gambling money on Bryson, but I just could not be rooting further away from Bryson to win-night golf tournament the way his like body language's posture, him telling Cantley to stop walk, just his whole thing. I was like this guy cannot. He ruins the golf tournament if he wins. It's like I just could not take any more of them out there. Well, that was the other part of it too. There was the undercurrent that these two guys don't like each other.
Starting point is 00:10:57 That on like on the 14th hole when Bryson tells Cantley to stop walking, it's kind of like, oh. And then you start reading their body language a lot of. little bit more. And I don't think they said a word to each other. I don't think they looked at each other. I don't think they interacted at all until they shook hands after the sixth playoff hole. And even then, if you watch that back, Can't Lay does the thing where he like, make sure that his hand is going to hit Bryson's and then looks away immediately, starts going towards Bryson's caddy. So the whole thing, yeah, the back and forth, but then the undercurrent of these two, I think, despise each other. Can'tley downplayed it afterwards. He
Starting point is 00:11:30 said that, you know, it's just the heat of the moment. Nothing's really going on. I kind of put myself, my own world. But during that round of golf, they hated each other. Which made it so much cooler. I mean, the fact that you knew that they, it was deeper than just wanting to win the golf tournament. It was like, fuck this guy. And even the announcers alluded to like when Bryson said that on the 14th hole,
Starting point is 00:11:52 they're like, I think that pissed, that pissed Patrick Cantley off to the point we're like, oh, we're in something here. Like I, you just vocalized that you don't like me or the way that I'm operating or the way that I'm walking. A ridiculous move by Bryson. I don't think it's ridiculous to be distracted by somebody walking. That's fine. But you just step off it and you go back through your routine or something.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You don't, in the heat of the moment, like, Patrick, can you stop walking? Like, that was so shocking that he said that. Like, that made you lean into the TV and be like, what? What are he just saying? Did he say that out loud to the other guy? So that was amazing. He had, like, him doing the club twirl when he just doesn't quite do it like. right he does it in such a dorky like aggressive way and the timing's a little bit off he had the
Starting point is 00:12:38 put on 16 that par five where he made that like 10 foot slider for birdie where he hits it and then he does what like a 32 handicap does where he puts it and then he stands behind it kind of and looks at it and is like leaning and then it goes in and he holds like a fist butt it's like he's just like so off yet he's making birdies left and right and he's 28 under he can't chip so he's literally on all of these holes, he's like 15 feet off the green, and he's doing the Frankie Borrelli at Forest Dunes, just putting from all over the place. And then finally on 17, he actually couldn't get around it.
Starting point is 00:13:14 He had to chip, and he just like flubbed one barely onto the green. So all of that going on while they also didn't like each other, and while they were the only two players basically on stage, it was just must-watch golf, which you very, very rarely get outside of four tournaments a year, maybe the players, and anytime Tiger Woods plays. Yeah, and I got to say, I think it was just more of the same of Bryson.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I don't know that Bryson hates Patrick Cantley. I think everyone just hates Bryson. I think Bryson was just being Bryson. There was no rivalry there. It's just Patrick Cantley can't stand Bryson Deschambeau. Just like 99.999% of the people on the PGA tour feel the same way. So there's no way that Bryson has any animosity against Patrick Cantley. He's just, that's just him being him.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Hey, Patrick, can you stop walking? Like, what are you talking about, dude? Right, because, like, that's usually, I feel like the standard is you step off, you might look over there, and then, like, can't lay whoever you're playing partner kind of gets it. And was like, and you might be doing something where you're talking with your caddy or like, even like, oh, my bad. Like, that was, like, I was just aloof in my own world here. But like he was, you know, and he's got the biggest shoulders in the world. So when he like pivots and goes like, can you stop walking over there, Patrick? And then like, except that.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's the most absurd thing in the world. And it is to Riggs's point, you're like, leaning in. you're like, no, he couldn't have. Did he, you did it? Okay, he did it. But then, like, it's, it's so similar to how we say he thinks he's, like, figured out the game of golf more than the guys he plays with. Like, he was, like, letting Patrick Cantlay know, like, what to do in that situation.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You know what I mean? Like, Patrick Cantlay is number one in the FedEx fucking rankings on the PGA tour. The guy's going to make millions upon millions of dollars probably at Eastlake. And you're telling him where to walk and when not to walk, as if you think that he doesn't know golf course editing. Like, that's Patrick Cantley. Like, I think maybe he was like for a second looking somewhere and didn't realize, but Patrick Cantley knows exactly where and when to walk.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Like, just step off, give him the second. Give him the courtesy on national television during a fucking PGA tour event to not call him out for bad golf course etiquette. Let him know. Like, just give him a second. Be a normal human being. Has the footage been released of what he was doing? Has anyone seen what he was doing? Like, how far ahead could he have been?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Do Tiger Wood stands in front of people. Tiger Wood stands in front of people's T-shots on par three's and no one says a word. Like, how bad could he have been? Well, what Cantlay said after was that he, they had been told they needed to speed up a little bit. So what he said was like after I hit, I was like kind of motoring up the fairway while Bryce was doing his routine to like try to get ahead and be ready. He's like I usually walk pretty slow. So I was actually trying to walk like quicker. And then when Bryson said that, he's like, it's and to Cantlay's credit, he just shoved it up.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He's like, yeah, like that stuff, like those comments and stuff are pretty like normal. Like we're just, that's, you know, how you operate on the course and you're playing with different people and you kind of get through it. So I think he just was moving. And I think in Bryson's peripheral vision, you could see him walking and moving. It distracted him. But again, instead of just do, you just do a quick step off and you can maybe you give a look over or something. You don't call him out like by name. Like he, he, he was almost like he.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like berating. Right. He was, it was like, um, like Trent Ryan, no running in the house. Like it was, that's almost, telling him when he can walk and when he can't, came off as so like degrading in that moment of, where it became a huge Twitter clip
Starting point is 00:16:43 when it's very easily could have just been avoided. So he just fucks that stuff up all the time, Bryson, and it makes him despisable unless you have money on him. And then he loses and then it makes him really despisable when he does that. But it was that, that moment was so unbelievably shocking until he then somehow didn't win the tournament five times, which made it even more shocking. Also, to get distracted at a PGA tour event by that,
Starting point is 00:17:06 like to me seems so crazy. Like, for us, obviously, any sort of movement would get in our heads because we're so used to a normal golf course setting. But when you're at, like, the PGA playoff and guys drunk people, I mean, did you see the footage of guys running from the 18th to the 17th during the playoff? People are full on sprinting on the golf course. So, like, I understand that it's like pretty normal to get distracted
Starting point is 00:17:26 by someone in a peripheral vision moving. but like, I don't know. It just felt so weird out of PJ Tour. These guys are so used to a million people around, moving around talking. Like Tiger does it all the time. Like Tiger steps off and stops and looks at people all the time. Yeah, I know. I guess he just does it right.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Like that was the first time that it really was like, wow, these like, is this really in your head that much? Like, how do you survive with drunk people just to your right and left? Like, dude, when we were at Northern Trust, Harry Higgs was teeing off and I was just walking towards him on a hole on the first hole because I went to the bathroom. And I was thinking of myself, like, I should probably stop right now, but I also need to get back to the putting green because I've been away for too long. So I just kept walking.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I was definitely in his vision. And he just striped on right down the middle. I remember thinking of myself like, this guy is so dialed in because he's a professional golfer. He didn't even notice me. I was walking at him. Like, if someone was doing that at me, I'd be such a mess. Well, that's why I think there was, like, built up animosity, too. Like, it just felt like that they didn't like each other.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And him saying that was just so damn weird, but it also felt like there was a little bit more. to it. Like it wasn't just, you know, another person walking around or just like a natural step off. Because, yeah, I mean, the poor guy, Bryson, where I give him, like, a little bit of slack is that he just doesn't know how to do things like a normal way. So he can't get out of his own way. Like the club twirl, it's like Tiger does it and as soon as he hits it, he knows it's flush. So he's just out there, he twirls it right away. He's like staring it down and then kind of holding it and then twirling it like, oh, that actually is. Yeah, but I like that, though.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I hate when people prematurely club tour. I actually loved the club tour. It wasn't as clean as it could have the swag that, like, Tiger does because it wasn't off the face feeling. But Frankie, the swag comes from knowing that it's all. It's like a bat flip. Like, if you just wait to do the bat flip the wall and then you flip your bat, it's like, well, no shit. Like, now you know it went over the wall. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I'm pretty hard on bracing. I thought, like, in real time, I was like, that was fucking baller. Like, that was awesome. And then the way that it just dropped right next to the hole. I mean, these guys were hitting it, like, in the safe spot the whole entire time. They kept playing 18. They were hitting it to the right of the pin. And then he finally just flagged it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Like, that to me was fucking awesome. I understand you can nitpick it when you watch it in slow motion. It wasn't as smooth. Like, we always compare people with Tiger fucking Woods, the smoothest criminal of all time. Like, I thought all things considered at that moment was a really good club twirl. Really good club twirl. For him. I thought for him, like, if Tiger Club twirled like that, we'd be like he short-circuh.
Starting point is 00:19:57 humming all over the place, dude. If Tiger fucking flagged one, took a second to think about it, and then club twirl door, regardless, even if he dropped the club, I'd be, I'd have my dick on the floor covered and come.
Starting point is 00:20:08 It's just very clear. He doesn't have the swag. Like, he just doesn't have it. He's like, he just doesn't look or cool, like, when he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Like, yeah, I agree that the, he was, like, aggressive with the twirl. Anytime you can just physically twirl the club, like,
Starting point is 00:20:23 that's, it's just pretty cool. But it, again, part of the beauty of it is like the second they stripe it when they twirl that thing and then the camera pans away from the player to the ball and then the ball drops and you're like, oh, he fucking knew it the whole time. Whereas like when it drops and then it's almost like they cut back to the guy and then he's like, oh, it was close.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I'm going to twirl now. Because he also had a couple like be perfects and it was like 30 feet short. You did that like twice. Yeah. At one time he was like, be good. It just didn't even come close. But yeah, and look, I think we're all starting to realize like Bryson gets too much shit in terms of, you know, the people chirping him, him getting like heckled, people jumping to shit on everything that he does. I think like the people are almost like ruining it where it's like now he's becoming a little bit sympathetic.
Starting point is 00:21:12 We've said that for a long time. But yeah, you know, it was it was frustrating watching him yesterday not be able to close it out because he should have won that tournament like six different times. and we, you know, we talked about it with Kisner. We're like, when someone just makes putts, it's infuriating, and it feels like they just stole it. Like Patrick Cantley was plus 14 something in strokes game putting through the actual like first 72, you know, the 72 hole event. He made whatever that was a 25 footer on the 72nd hole for Bertie to force a playoff.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Like, he just was pouring everything in while being outdriven by like 30 or 40 yards. And he's not a short hitter. like he was carrying the ball 300 yards and getting just embarrassed Tita Green in terms of distance, which I mean, imagine flying. Like if we hit one that bounces and rolls and goes 302, we're like, what an absolute bomb. And Patrick Cantlay is carrying it 290,300, 305 and Bryson's airmailing his golf ball by 20 or 30 yards. It was the whole thing was just a preposterously awesome playoff to watch. Yeah, there was a time where I didn't realize, I didn't know how to process if
Starting point is 00:22:26 If Bryson Deschambeau was putting horrible or if he was just putting normally Like those are not like makes. All the ones that he was missing are not like auto makes. But when you're putting next to a guy like Patrick Cantley and you're like trying to win the tournament When this guy's draining 25 foot pars and saving fucking 12 foot pars and all this, Like he's just making everything and made Bryson look like the most incompetent person on the green of all time. Like, guys in my mentions, every time I would, like, shit on Bryson on Twitter or
Starting point is 00:22:56 something, like, guys would get in arguments to be like, well, actually, he's like one of the better putters on tour if you, like, look at, like, the way he likes, like, he's actually fucking sick on the greens, but when you compare him to a guy that can't miss, that's shooting 100% from three point range, the guy who's shooting 40% from three point range, which is still above average, looks horrible. You know what I mean? I couldn't process it. I was like, is Bryson the worst putter on the planet right now?
Starting point is 00:23:18 But I don't think he is. no he's good yeah somebody was saying I want to say in terms of I saw a screenshot I don't know like what the time period was but Bryson strokes gain putting was like 6th
Starting point is 00:23:33 or something and he was ahead of Patrick Cantley like for the year but you are right and and the difference was like Bryson had a couple that burn the edge or lit that like Cantley was just pouring him in perfect speed right in the center like his put on the final play
Starting point is 00:23:49 hole when he won it. That thing just, if someone had just drawn a circle there and not, there wasn't even a hole, his ball would have just stopped right in the middle of that circle. Like, it was a perfect putt. So you are right. By like comparison, Bryson looked incompetent on the greens, but he had, you know, four birdies on the back nine in a really tight one-on-one situation to try to win a golf tournament. He had that putt again on 16 where he buried it from like 10 or 12 feet down the hill.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So he just looked like a horrific putter compared to that. to Cantlay, but Patrick Canley had one of the best, like, putting performances I've ever seen. He was making everything. I saw Luke Donald tweet out. I don't know why I follow Luke Donald. It's like a random Twitter follow for me. I like Luke Donald. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's just a random, like, Twitter file. Cantlay is putting the lights out or putting the lights out. Man, I don't know where he's trying to go with that. I imagine putting. Putting the lights out. Yeah. Spelled the same. Yeah, it's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Love the pace of his stroke, longer back, shorter through. Great way to produce a solid strike, which is so important for speed control, which to me was like the opposite of everything that we've learned. Like when we went to the kingdom and even when we went to Forest Dunes, they were teaching us like go toe to toe, like make sure it's just as far. Your follow-throughs just as much as your back, your take-back. Like to me, that was so confusing that Luke Donald was saying the perfect putting stroke. for Patrick Cantley was a much longer back and a shorter through.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Wait, what did he say? Longer, he goes, love the pace of his stroke. Longer back, shorter through. Great way to produce a solid strike, which is so important for speed control. Yeah, that is like the opposite of what everyone says ever. Right, that's like stabbing it, isn't it? Yeah, I feel like to get a solid strike, you want a shorter backstroke to like ensure that like there's more risk the further you take it back of, assume.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I don't, that one doesn't make any sense to me. And he was doing that. If you watch his practice strokes, he was doing these huge takebacks and these shorter finishes. And I'd be like, what was that? Like, this guy's going to crush this ball. But then, yeah, he ended up just, like, draining everything. McDonald was also, like, one of the best putters on planet Earth for a while. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:05 The Riggs is, like, trying to ponder how this is true. He's going to be, like, barely finishing through his ball. Definitely. I mean, yeah, this is what we do. You just read one tip and it changes everything. Someone underneath the tweet was like, it sure seems like he decelerates, but I don't. think he actually does. Like people who were stunned, like golf, Twitter was stunned by this guy's stroke.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He, he did look the whole time. I agree with that. I kept thinking, like, is he hitting this putt? Like, 20 feet past the hole? Like, he would take a huge backstroke, but he putted it amazing. It's very funny to hear Luke Dodd. I mean, yeah, I'm definitely going to try that now. Dude, every comment.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Take the putter way back. Every response to Luke Donald's tweet is just they can't believe that what he's saying is true. This one guy, Jason, goes, putted great, but it looks like a massive. deceleration through the ball. Everything I was taught not to do. I can't remember a better putting performance. Like, the guy just couldn't wrap his head around in one tweet. Amazing putting by Kentley, sure, but not sure that's good advice for most golfers who would
Starting point is 00:27:03 probably decal and hit it less solidly if they try to replicate it. Luke Donald needs to, like, clear this up. He has to. You can't say it's great. You can't say that that is so important for speed control, like when you have 770. thousand Twitter followers when now everyone's going to go out there and try and replicate a longer back and a shorter through when that's the only thing that we hear on the putting green that you shouldn't do yeah but we it's very realistic we could just be hearing bad advice all the time
Starting point is 00:27:32 like people like Luke don't's like no I just did it really well and I putty great and then this other guy that you just watched on TV does it and he puts like the best in the world so maybe you fucking idiot should do it that makes me feel better because I get chirped for that a lot of like you're taking the putter way too far back and then desal coming through and I'm like well I putt pretty well so what is the what just because like you read in a book that you're not supposed to do that that's interesting that is very interesting um I looked Bryson is 14th in strokes game putting for the year right so I mean and he looked like a guy in the first tea pro a kid in the first tea program which just took who just got a putter for the first time
Starting point is 00:28:13 in his life learning how to get a ball in a hole compared to Patrick Cantlett when he was standing over like five footers I'm like this guy's no chance. I've never seen such a juxtaposition between two pros on one surface. It was like the one guy was a professional and the other guy wasn't even close. Well, that's what, Riggs, you must have been a brutal, I mean, responsible loss, because Bryson had just endless amounts to win that thing and just lipped out, missed pots, just couldn't execute, put one in the water, then didn't make par.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But like, what a roller coaster arrived at must have been. It was, it was weird in that it was, uh, it was like in hockey when you're just pelting the other team and their goal is really hot, you just know that they're going to get like one odd man rushed the other way and score and you're going to lose like one nothing. It just kind of continued and continued to feel like that. But not until after, like Cantley made that putt on the 72nd hole. Up until that moment, it was just over.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It was like, it was so over on 17 even when he hit it in the water. And even when Bryson kind of blew it and made bogey, you're like, he's still got a one-shot lead. He absolutely laced one. He hit one tight on 18. It's like it's just over. It's fine. And then Cantley makes a bomb.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And you're like, wait, now we got to make a putt. But I was like, oh, he just saw the read. And then he hit a horrible putt low and, like, didn't even sniff the hole. And from that moment on, I was like, we could be in trouble here. This fucking guy just doesn't look like he's going to get it done. And none of his putts looked like they were going to go in. Like, none of his putts in the playoff looked like they were going to go in except for that putt for part that he hit. It was just infuriating to watch responsibly as a guy that had bet on Bryson.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And the one time I wanted to see that fucking guy do something really good and impressive and close it out. Let's go, Bryson. He just ripped my heart out by missing putt after putt after pot. I'm obsessed with watching Bryson like intensely. Like I stare at him. Just I want to see every single body movement. I want to see his eyes blinking a million times a minute. I want to see his like software processing at all times.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And when he hit that drive on 18, I think it was like the third playoff, the second playoff hole, maybe the fourth playoff hole. I can't remember at this point. They kept going back and forth. But he hit a drive right down the middle and then started whistling right after. It was one of the more socially awkward, like this guy's not in the same planet as us. Like that's his brain being like, all right, we got to do something aside from processing reality where you have to now whistle in public. Like, I'm surprised everyone didn't stop what they're doing to stare at him. Like, why are you whistling right now?
Starting point is 00:30:50 He literally hit the drive, picked up the team, went, it was nuts. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you whistling right there? What made your brain whistle now? Like, it was, what song was he whistling? Like, is he on the same, is he on the same wavelength? Is that what is happening to price of Chimbo?
Starting point is 00:31:07 He just doesn't know what to do. He just doesn't know what to do. He didn't know what to do. He didn't know what to do with my hands right now. He didn't know how to stand there and wait for Kent later hit. He had to, like, whistle. And I thought that was so interesting. It's such a ridiculous look into his brain.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's just constantly like a monkey, like slamming fucking symbols and just chaos. Frank, it's like this morning we had our national anthem singer is this Australian dude, Adele, who is not their confident in his ability. And he, you know, he responded to like an email that was just like, hey, if like no one else can sing the national anthem, sure, I'll do it. So I was talking to him last night. He came by the Greektown Casino. And he's like, yeah, you guys really could, like nobody else stepped up, huh? And he's like, I got to do that. So then he's standing over there for like five minutes while we do it now and spends another.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And he's at a noticeable volume doing like tone drills while we're just standing there. And it was the same thing. And I loved it. I was like, dude, I like that you're like getting ready to go. But it was a little bit like, no, you need to just be quieter. You need to probably go somewhere else. We can just, like we can hear you just going. And like, you're just talking.
Starting point is 00:32:14 But at least he's getting ready to sing, Bryce. Right. There's a reason. for that action. Frankie's point is like this guy's walking and like there's no reason to whistle except him being in the effing clouds. Doesn't know what else to do. Maybe his brain all to start.
Starting point is 00:32:29 He was just like walking down a pasture and like nobody else was around. Like I do like Frankie's point of like no, I love watching him intently because it is like I said intensely. I wanted to say intently. I didn't know if it was the right way. I said intensely. I want to say intently or intensely. But intensely.
Starting point is 00:32:47 intensely adds a little bit more sort of passion to the way that you're watching them. That's what I was doing. Intently just means. Your eyes are bug wide just looking right now. Yeah. Intently, intently you're not missing any details, Frankie.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Intensely, you're like really emotional over every shot. Yeah. By the way, we have to just like, we have to talk about this. Trent just hasn't been on the show today. So,
Starting point is 00:33:13 which is insane. Like at some point, figure it out. Go on your phone. use 5G, like, do it, like, just don't not be on the show. Like, I understand he can't get Wi-Fi, but at some point you just get on the show somehow, some way. You can't just say, oh, yeah, I just lose to the internet. You can't lose to the internet.
Starting point is 00:33:29 He's also in our headquarters. He can't. There's a way to get on the show. Do it at your desk. Do something. Do something. He just needs to be on the show. He's just not here.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He's had, what does he said, less than 30 words in the show? Because he's just not here. Yeah. I don't know that I can accept him not figuring this out. Are you coming on to the show that we're recording, Trent, Ryan? You guys are going to love this real quick. Bryson DeShambo for the week was second in strokes gain putting for the week. So I saw that and I was like, is that up-to-date statistics?
Starting point is 00:34:05 So I didn't read it. I was like there's no way can't leave was one. Bryson was two. But it's like that he seems like he was like in the mid like third, like just middle of the pack. The average strokes gained putting per round. Patrick Cantley was 3.644. Bryson Nishambo was 2.340. Total strokes gain putting for the week.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Patrick Cantley was 14.6 essentially and Bryson was 9.4. And the next closest was John Rahm, who was right about seven strokes gains. So they were pretty significantly clear of the rest of the field in terms of strokes gain putting, which again, I mean, I don't know that that factors in the stats from the playoff. It probably doesn't because I don't know why you'd give like two guys seven more. I don't know that it factors that in. But regardless, for the whole week, him being that close to Cantlay and being significantly
Starting point is 00:34:59 better than the rest of the field putting after what it looked like in the playoff is pretty wild. Now, can you change that to like shipping if you have it up? Because some of Bryson's biggest mistakes or biggest, I don't know, mistakes, but just like poor shots, poor strokes, were those pots where he wasn't on the green or he was chipping just off, those were atrocious in terms of being,
Starting point is 00:35:21 you know, 15 feet and like hitting it to six feet. So you'll like this. We can pull that up. We got strokes gain around the green, BMW championship 2021. Second place is Kevin Kisner, who finished DFL, dead fucking last. He finished,
Starting point is 00:35:40 which is real tough for my current. status looking like and I don't want to be rooting for the European team but it's looking very much like I will be I hope I'm wrong I hope that the uh captain Steve Stricker doesn't just go to the same fucking playbook which is never won uh anything ever but we'll see uh bryson is was 47th in out of 16 out of 70 people he was 47th with a negative uh one point basically of 1.1 strokes around the green. So he lost a little over a stroke to the field. To the field.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And what Cantley do from that area? Can't lay was 48th, so he was right there. Wow. Mm-hmm. Okay. He did have a sick up and down in the first hole of the playoff. We hit that huge flop shot that almost went in the hole. That made my heart.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Thank God it lipped out, though. If it didn't lip out, it was going deep, deep by. But yeah, that probably made your heart sink a little bit when you hit that flop. I was like, no fucking way I'm going to lose this way. I think I'll lose it anyway.

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