Fore Play - Riggs Makes His Pitch

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

A twist — Riggs pitches the boys on new segment ideas. Will they take? Will they hate? We weigh in and speculate on Bryson’s caddie split. Why? What happened? What will happen going forward? Plus ...Frankie details what it was like running a speakeasy at Borrelli’s during the Islanders’ run with Joe LaCava showing up.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, presented by Barstool Sports. It is 4th of July week, so our office is closed. So I'm going to hit you with a little programming note that's going to mess us up. It always does chronologically. But since our office is closed, we're trying to enjoy a few days off. We are recording this on Thursday, July 1st, but it is coming out on Tuesday, July 1st.
Starting point is 00:00:30 sixth. We want people when you go back to work. I know not everyone has their office clothes like we do. So when you go back to work Tuesday morning, I want you to have a little podcast, maybe you're traveling, who knows what you're doing. But I want you to have a show. So some interesting developments have occurred in the current events world. In particular, Bryson DeShambos, caddy Tim quit the morning before he's supposed to tee off in Detroit, where he is the favorite and the defending champion, his caddy of a long time just quits. So we're going to get into that. We have some more debates within the crew coming. We have a bunch of from the galleries that we can get to. And at the end of the show, I'm going to pitch the boys a handful of segment
Starting point is 00:01:08 ideas that I came up with, and we will see what they think. But gentlemen, hello, how are you? We are joined again by the entire crew. I would introduce all of you again, but, you know, I don't know how tensions are right now, but I know what I'm holding, which is a little Owens mixers, correct? Owens mixers is the best mixer in the game. It certainly is what you're holding. I mean, there's no question about it. Those are in your hands and they're delicious. So, this week, and a lot of you, I get that you might not have the whole week off,
Starting point is 00:01:37 but people are getting, they got days off here and there. They try to, you know, parlay a little Fourth of July break, a little Fourth of July day off into maybe a longer vacation. On vacation, pretty common to have some cocktails. Pour this shit in with your favorite liquor. It might be tequila. It might be vodka. It might be rum.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Who knows what the hell is? is. But you pour this in with your favorite liquor and you have an awesome cocktail. There's dozens and dozens of options of great cocktails you can whip up. And Owens is the best way to do it. They've revolutionized this old stagnant game of the mixer game and made it cool. They got great tasting stuff. You get it on Amazon. You get it next day. You go to Owens Mixers.com and get it all over the place. Go check CVS, Krug, all kinds of spots. So Owens Mixers, thanks for supporting us for a long time. Hey gentlemen. How are we? Doing fantastic. You played golf yesterday. How'd that go?
Starting point is 00:02:25 So Wednesday, I played golf. I've been doing the big chair sit tip. That's been my big thing lately. Golf tips are probably the closest thing to crack cocaine for any golf, you know, aficionado in the world. And I got this new tip that I picked up from Max Homa weeks ago, put in play. I've been hitting the ball a lot better. Well, yesterday I did my typical routine, which is, you know, I'm three hours behind you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So we kind of record our podcast, do a bunch of emailing, that kind of BS. And around three or four p.m. I go out, pick a public course I haven't been to before, show up, pay as the last guy out, and go off as a single. I can film, I can just be alone for three or four hours. It's great. Well, played this course, Legend Trail from about 68, 6,900 yards by myself, and I shot 75 with a three jack on 18. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Dude, I played great. And the front nine, it was windy as shit. Like the first hole, so I get up, the first hole is a three, no, it was a 400, I believe, like, 400 and, five yard par four straight downwind like 30 or 40 mile an hour wind and the courses are baked out here like they don't really water them anymore because summertime here it's 105 hundred 10 degrees people don't play as much and they're just going to oversee it in september anyways where they basically the grass doesn't matter so dude i hit one i hit a three wood on the first he was a little bit narrow and i hit it like 2.95 and had a flip wedge into a front pin hit it tight made birdie then got then the next hole's a par four into the wind and i hit it my driver, it might have gone 220 yards. So it was windy as shit. But long story, sure, I'm not going to bore everybody with every shot. I played fucking great.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I had 20 feet for a 73 on 18 and three jacked for a 75, which is my low round of the year. So I'm feeling good, fellas. At what point did you realize that you were having a good day? At what point you start thinking about it? So I shot 36 on the front nine. And I was like, all right, something's happening here. but it also, it wasn't just that something's happening, was that I was hitting it really well.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Like I wasn't, because you know my game. Sometimes I can hit it all over the fucking planet, and somehow it's like rig shot at 38th there? How's that possible? Whereas this one was like, it actually could have been lower. I was hitting it really well. So I had a lot of confidence going to the back nine.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Really tough stretch, 11, 12, and 13. Just like two really hard par fours and then a 235 yard par three, which I bogied all three of them. But then made a birdie after that. So I was two over with, like five holes to go and two of them were reachable part five so I was like dude I could post a number here I could really post a number and I birdied a part four before it so I'm like all right we're in we're in good shape and then I fucking I bogeyed a really dumbass par five where I hit a five
Starting point is 00:05:10 wood off the tea and it just went through the fairway into like I hit it dead straight and it went just through the fairway into like a wash that I didn't know was there had to take a drop ended up making bogey and then the next par five I went four four iron five wood and to the middle of the green and had an eagle look. So, like, there were a couple weird, couple weird part five, but it was straight downwind. So it was like, you're just playing it weird. Long story short, I knew I was hitting it really well,
Starting point is 00:05:34 so I felt fucking great. If I can keep this thing up where all of a sudden I hit the ball decently, watch out, gentlemen. 75, man, that's good golf. You're three hours behind, so the 11.07 PM tax of, like, I played great with just a picture of your scorecard was an all-time move. I was like getting it bad about to fall asleep. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I was like, well, done, dude. Dude, I can't tell you how weird it is the playoffs. Like, I just missed the whole game, too, with Stanley Cup finals last night. I just didn't even know, because I've been traveling so much, west, east coast, whatever. And I finish up my round.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's like 7.45. I'm jacked up. I look. I mean, the game had been over for an hour. It was just like, fuck, I missed the whole damn thing. So I'm playing well. I'm excited for our upcoming trip where we play a little travel series golf
Starting point is 00:06:19 because, you know, every shot's on camera, and my game feels pretty good right now. So I'm excited. But we've got, you know, I hope everyone had a good Fourth of July that's listening. I can't say that to you guys because it hasn't happened yet. Who knows? We may not even make it through it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 One of the big risks, I know, but one of the big risks of doing a show this far in advance is like one of, like we may just not make it to the show releasing. We get so many downloads though. So many downloads. Totally. A lot of stuff's happening.
Starting point is 00:06:52 You know, I hope everyone. Everyone, like, stays safe, doesn't drink and drive, like avoids, you know, bad stuff over this crazy holiday weekend. Um, but you never know, man. Life, you know, this is a fickle game, this life. It's fleeting. Who, starting early on the negative side. Sometimes you feel like that.
Starting point is 00:07:09 That's just a punt. I got punched. Is it too early for you, Frankie? Is that what's going on? No, no, no. Nothing's too early. No, it's just, it's just, you know, that's something you got to think about. There is a risk involved.
Starting point is 00:07:19 We sometimes say, oh, like, you don't want to promote, like, when we think we have a gas, because it may not happen. Like, we're promoting this show coming out like July 5th. It's fucking July 1st. Well, we don't know if we make it there. It's a little different because we know the show is eventually going to come out. It's just whether or not the human body makes it to that point as well.
Starting point is 00:07:39 True. No, but I'm feeling good. I played some golf last night. I went to North Shore Country Club on the North Shore of Long Island. I guess that's how they got their name. Just wacky little greens, man. It's one of those courses, really fun layout. but when you get up to the greens, it's just, it's mini golf.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It's crazy. There's no rewarding for a good shot onto the green, but it's really fun. It's a different style. And I just like, I haven't played Twilight Golf like that in a really, really long time. So like teed off at six and the rush to get to 18 was a cool rush. Like you knew you had to play pretty well to get through all 18 holes. You can't really look for balls. You have to hit it straight.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You got to get in and get going. So that was fun. The only thing that happened to me was. and this is something all golfers have to kind of relate to. I was playing in a two-sum, and we were moving, and we're at a country club. So there's guys behind us that are country club players, these older guys, older gentlemen, that just hit the ball right down the middle. They know exactly how to hit it onto the greens.
Starting point is 00:08:37 They put. These guys play 18 holes in no joke like an hour and 45 minutes. And they came up on our ass so fast, like out of nowhere to the point where we had to then finish the hole, right? Like, we were in the middle of the fairway. They're on the T-box. Like we're just hitting our approach That's on the green They're already at their balls right behind us
Starting point is 00:08:55 So like what do you do in that situation Do you continue the hole Or are they so fast and so up your ass That you, in mid hole, mid-fairway Do you just step aside and be like, just go guys? Like, because I couldn't even play the hole Like I had a bunker shot and these guys are hitting They're hitting a protest because they knew exactly where to hit
Starting point is 00:09:11 Balls are landing in front of the green As I'm in the green side bunker So I'm just like, what do I do here? Do we just let them come up and put And then just go on their way? We ended up just finishing out. and we made them watch us putt. But it was like a frustrating, like heart-pounding moment.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Those, those country club usual's everydayers, they kind of become, what's your, what's your buddy's name, Frankie, who's in the office, who's never smiled before it worked? Yeah, Rob. Their golf experience becomes Rob's work. They are just robots. Like, they click the button. They go through.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They don't smile anymore. They say the same old man jokes. And they can play, like you said, an hour and a half. And it's very intimidating because if anyone interrupts their ordinary schedule out there, it is like you fucking, you basically like killed their family. Like they don't allow that. Their whole life is ruined. So I always just fucking step aside and just please, please go as fast as possible.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I don't care. I don't want to be in your way because it's there's nothing. Golf's already hard enough. You already feel uncomfortable enough over the golf ball. Now you've got the added stress and just uncomfortability of people behind you. it's the worst. I was standing over the putt and they were on the apron of the green. Like they were right there staring at us.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And I said to my buddy, I'm just like, I can't. I can't do this. I legitimately cannot put this ball because like I just misread it. I hit it 15 feet over. I ended picking the ball up and we just walked. Like we were just like, I'm done. Guys, go ahead. It was very funny to see how, um, how robotic they played that golf course.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like I don't think either of them hit a bad shot the entire day. How much worse did you play when they were on you? Oh my God. It was only, like, I was actually playing decently, and I made a triple boge on that hole. And I was in a green side bunker in two. Like, I just, I exploded. The tempo of your swing, like, triples when they're about it. I, I pounded one out of the bunker.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And then I four putted, and I just ended up picking up. So I gave myself a triple boge. It was just, it was. They're also, like, standing there with, like, they got their hand on their hip in the fairway, like, leaning on their club. Just trying to give all the body English of get the fuck out of the way. Bro, they had, there were two, they were two-sum and they had two carts. So they just, like, it. They just went.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Just solo. It's a job at that point. That's just like, that's just, yeah, that's my job. No, at 4 PM IT off and I get 18 holes in an hour and a half. Oh, my God. So, big news, and this is going to be interesting to talk about, because I'm sure more will come out from this, definitely more will come out from this in the time between now, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:42 and when we've done. I do want to say before we jump into the Bryson D. Shambot, Caddy News since the last time we recorded, which is a weird time warp, a new episode of Breaking 100 came out. I shot 118 at Eagle Crest in San Diego. I saw that face Frankie. That's the same face I had on all day long. I played with rigs and lurch.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It was just a tough day. Before I got a putting lesson from JT. My putting was much better that day. Just everything else was horrible. It's like when I'm hitting my irons well, I can't put. And then when I can putt, I can't hit my irons or hit my driver. I will say it was a tight golf course. It was a real tight.
Starting point is 00:12:20 It was an ugly golf course too. I mean, like, I would say where we left it, though, very positive. Those last three, four holes were great. It was not, it was a tricky golf course. It was a tricky day had by all. It was extremely tricky for you because of that front foot pickup thing that you were doing. Well, that, yeah, the front foot pickup thing, which I just, I don't know what I was doing. Where did you get that?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Did you pick that up in a magazine or something? I don't think so. I just think that I, and I said this during the video, and I'm sure I've said it before, I just got so excited about the lower body movement that I just started moving things that didn't need to be moved. And I think Lurch made a point during the video where he said, yeah, like, I got a taste of what moving my lower half does. And it makes me hit the ball much further that I was like, oh, I'll just add a couple more lower body movements and I'll be even better. That is not the case. That little foot pickup drains all my power and it takes, it makes all my timing screwed up.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So, yeah, I figured that out on the 14th, 15th hole at Eaglecrest. I wish I had figured it out sooner. But I bogied the last three holes and I just played way better. So doing that going forward, I think it's going to happen in no time. It's a little tricky for us during the round because, you know, we, like, you're John Tilleries student. So we don't want to go in and, like, plug an IV into somebody else's patient and just, you know what I mean? So it's like when you're doing the footlift thing, I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:13:46 oh yeah, JT must have given him that. That's just his move now. Right. And we could also be plugging the wrong IV in. Like we don't know. We are. We definitely are plugging the wrong IV.
Starting point is 00:13:54 We're going to kill it. The right medicine. We don't really know. It just seemed like there was a lot of lower body movement going on. And if we could simplify that, we might have a better, I don't know, club to impact a ball,
Starting point is 00:14:06 you know, like more consistent club phase. Thinking back, you were doing that at Brookville. And I remember the first time I saw your new swing, I went, whoa, that's a lot going on. You're like, yeah, man, this is awesome. And I was like, yeah, it is. It's fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:14:19 But I think you did get a little too excited. And it's tricky because even with the foot thing, I play better than I did when I didn't move any part of my lower body. So, like, it's not all negative, but it is something that JT didn't tell me to do. And then once I stopped doing it or stopped doing it to the degree that I was, I just play better. And even my bad shots, they might not be great, but they still go pretty straight. When I move the foot, it's just a full-on disaster. So we're going to stop doing that. I appreciate anybody that sat through the Eagle Crest round.
Starting point is 00:14:52 After the ninth hole or eighth hole, it was pretty clearly out of reach. So if you stuck around, I really appreciate that. And shout out to Riggs and Lurch and Frankie's good at this too when we do these videos. Just all positivity. You guys don't give me any tips, anything like that. It's just full support. and I appreciate that. But foot down
Starting point is 00:15:11 and I think we're going to get this thing really rolling along, hopefully. We march on. We march on you. And the key was to finish, you know, like we realized with what, nine holes left, maybe less.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Like, it was, today wasn't going to be the day. So we were like, dude, this last nine holes find something. Like even if it's on the 18th hole, you've got to find something that in your thoughts on the plane ride home,
Starting point is 00:15:35 in your thoughts when you're lying in bed, before that next round, like you feel positively about what you're doing. You've got, it's a swing thought or it's maybe it's a larger kind of just general mindset around your golf game, whatever it is, find something in these last nine holes. And with three holes to go, you found something. I think you bogeyed the last three or four holes. You could have easily pared a couple of them. And if you can do that consistently, you're fucking shooting 90. I mean, you'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So I think finding something was the goal and you found it. Yeah, I'm grateful. I wish I'd found it sooner, but I'm glad I found it at all. Also, one of the sneaky hottest days you could ever imagine there. So, like, between the blend of the course, the course hadn't seen water and seemed like a few years. And it was, I mean, it was, it was impossible for anybody to play well under the circumstances. You'd rip one down the middle of the fairway. You'd just be in sand. You'd be in dirt. So you're basically playing a bunker shot from 150 yards.
Starting point is 00:16:34 and just to move around and breathe that hot air became uncomfortable for especially not even for big guys for every guy it was one of the most uncomfortable rounds of golf and we did have a group decision after like i think it was like maybe 10 holes it was like are we going to continue with this because like Trent just i don't know you had like a 60 something on the front so it's like dude i think i said it was like the hunt to like 35 like you had to like shoot like one under on the back or something like that And I mean, that's not happening for anybody in this group. So it was just like, should we continue with this misery? And we decided to, yeah. I think it was for the best. But man, that was not like, looking back, that was one of the least enjoyable golf rounds I've had. It was the worst golf course for you in that area, right? Like, you need to be able to, like, New England golf is significantly more friendly because it's tree line.
Starting point is 00:17:29 So even if you spray it a little bit, like the trees knock it down and you can at least advance the ball. whatever. And we were deciding between two different courses. And I will say, I ended up going and playing the other one, it would have been similar. It was like if you missed fairways, if you missed fairways, you were gone. Like it just didn't, it was almost desert golfy where it's like, dude, if you just can't hit it sideways much at all, there was a lot of water. So I think that just region with like the canyons and they kind of squeeze some courses in between like brush and it was all overgrown. It was like if you just didn't hit the ball really flush and straight, you weren't even, you weren't even. You weren't even. You weren't even. dropping or like punching out, you were like re-teeing, which is just never going to add up. It's going to make it frustrating. So I thought that that course didn't set up well for you. The weather didn't set up well for you. And then you had acquired that weird footlift thing that clearly didn't work out for you either. That makes me feel better the course thing because that day we were all going back and forth about where to play.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And I wanted to play the one that we ended up eventually playing because it was closer to the airport. And producer Jake and I had a red eye. and we didn't want to miss that and all that stuff. And I was worried after I played so bad and after we went to the one course that we ended up playing, I was worried in the back of my mind thinking like maybe that other one was like more wide open and there was more forgiveness. So hearing that it's very similar actually makes me feel a lot better. It would have been the same shit.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I don't think it would change anything. Same hot day. Same topography. It was the same stuff. But the reason we found these golf courses was the Barstow Golf Time app, which that's how you should be, that's how you should be booking your teeth. T-Times. You're crazy. If you know, we've got a reward system going on now where you can get discounted merch. You can get all kinds of good stuff by leaving reviews and by booking T-Times.
Starting point is 00:19:12 That's how you benefit. It is kind of crazy to think, gentlemen, that we have our own golf T-time app because I've been using T-time apps about a lot. Yep. And the reward system is as good as it gets. The points for booking T-times, for putting up pictures for T-T-T-T-T-T-imes, for putting up experience, videos of your experience, and all that stuff. You get all these different points, and the most points will just win you prizes and rewards, and that's just a really good thing to do
Starting point is 00:19:42 because it's going to help not only promote the app, but also promote just golf in general with you and your buddies. You can show people the courses you've gone to. So download it, use it, experience it. If you're going to do a T-Time app, if you're going to use a T-Time app, why not use the Barstil Golf one? It's got all the times, and it has just extra stuff in there. I've actually got my own promo on this Barstle Golf Time app.
Starting point is 00:20:03 now that just got pushed out where if you play book a tea time you play Tuesday through Thursday during the week you get a hundred extra bonus points it's like a it's a breaking 100 promo it's it's we're trying to promote weekday golf like after work off so if you play Tuesday through Thursday book a tea time any of those you will get a hundred extra reward points and like these guys are saying you can get it for merch you can get it for all that stuff so if you do that you can just gain points like it's nobody's business I think I said and I don't know this has been approved. I think I said if someone has the most points on the app, you just come, I'll just bring you to Borrelli's and we'll eat like kings and we'll go play golf around here.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You have to be normal, though. That's the only disclosure. Yes, correct. Just be normal. That's going to be kind of an honor system thing. I think the normality of someone. Just suck if like, I, I like, no, man, you can't come. You're not normal. That'll suck for the person. But if you're normal and you have the most points, I will bring you to Burrells and we'll go play local, Long Island golf. It's a nice, like, elastic clause that you've put in there, Frankie. You just have to be normal because you can just make
Starting point is 00:21:09 that call no matter what. You're not normal. I'm not going to do it. But hopefully people trust us enough. And yeah, we're going to continue to add things like this. For example, like in the fall, when I'm back in Scottsdale, more, not traveling as much, we're going to add ex-person with like the most points on the Barstow Golf Time app.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You know, in Arizona, come out, you and two friends and we're going to have a foursome and play around a golf at Greyhawk or wherever. So the more points that you acquire, the better for you. You can get discounted merch, discounted T-Times. The way you acquire your points, you book T-T times with the Barstool Golf Time app, and then you leave reviews. We all know reviews are huge when you're trying to pick a course. I do this every day.
Starting point is 00:21:47 When I determine where to go film my Riggsverse videos, I put out three a week, I film a bunch of daily night and stuff. When I'm going to figure out where to go play a golf course, I use the Barstow Golf Time app, and I rely on people's reviews. Numbers, pictures. I want to see pictures. We're visual creatures. Give me a fucking picture. So anyways, go download the Barstool Golf Time app.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Book your Tea Times using it. Leave reviews using it and you will gain points and you can use those points for cool things. Barstool Golf Time. All right. Bryson DeShambo, this was originally reported by the No Laying Up guys who I believe they have some source and they've always been hard on the Bryson case. I do not think they're big Bryson DeShambo fans. But they reported them in Ryan Lavner of Golf Channel, who's a great guy,
Starting point is 00:22:26 who's been one of their best writers for a long time. confirmed it saying, Bryson is caddy Tim Tucker, have parted ways. Bryson has Cobra's been showman on the bag this week in Detroit. Bryson's agent, Brett Falkoff tells me in any relationship they run their course, and that's what happened here. Obviously, this is going to be fascinating. We've all seen the clips of Bryson losing his mind at the Open Championship,
Starting point is 00:22:50 banging his head against the wall. We've seen Bryson sprits and golf balls. We've seen his caddy Tim laying down like Camillo V. Jagas reading putts to like take videos of Bryson's putting stroke and all kinds of crazy shit we've seen the videos of Bryson pictures of Bryson out on the driving range at 9 10 7 p.m lights are off grinding and guess who's got to be there is caddy tim so it is an extremely high maintenance gig probably the most high maintenance gig in the history of the pGA tour maybe like Tiger Woods rivals it just because of all the extra curriculars you have to deal with and all the other people but I doubt it I think it's probably
Starting point is 00:23:23 the most high maintenance gig he's been doing it for years I think that I saw somewhere like he quit maybe for a little bit three or four years ago, but mostly he's been there the whole time. Clearly everyone's immediate instinct is like, oh, this is just a fallout from Bryson being an extremely needy, crazy science guy, and people can only take it for so long. That's kind of my initial knee-jerk reaction, but I imagine that we'll talk about it for a while. I think that's, I mean, people wear you down. If there's one guy that could potentially wear someone down, it'd be Bryson with just his antics, the way he goes about it all.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And we've seen some disagreements when they just talk about various shots where it doesn't, like, it seems like there's a lot of friction there. So, yeah, I mean, relationships come and go. You know, you have good ones. Hopefully they sustain. But this one feels like it's obviously doesn't sustain the, you know, the timeframe because, yeah, he's gone. and it's crazy because obviously a favorite potential winnings. It's like, can I just stay on for four more days? So I think there's a lot more to come out about this when you're thinking about several
Starting point is 00:24:34 hundred thousand dollars potentially meeting you on Wad Wednesday for the caddies too. Yeah, I do wonder who initiates a breakup, like the breakup in this situation. Is it, in my eyes, it's probably the caddy just because of all the things that we're saying where it's just a lot. Bryson D. Shambo is a lot and he demands a lot and he talks a lot and it's just these very high maintenance like Riggs is saying
Starting point is 00:25:00 and I would imagine, again I don't know and maybe more details have come out since then but like if you're that caddy at a certain point I know there's potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars to be made like you're saying Lurch but also you just sometimes that doesn't outweigh like
Starting point is 00:25:15 having to work with a guy like Bryson and again that's all speculation but I do think the burnout rate for a guy like Bryson and Caddies feels like it could be higher than usual. Yeah, I mean, all speculation included in this, but a guy can only go to sleep crying so much, right? Like Tim has been through a lot. And he could say that he hasn't been.
Starting point is 00:25:37 He could say that Bryson's been his guy, blah, blah, blah. We've gone to war together. I'm part of this. And I'm going to speculate that that guy just got broken in half, man. Like every night just staring at a fucking plate of food being like, when is this going to end? there is no amount of money that can like allow me to accept this job anymore i can't accept my life with this guy it's a living hell every single day being blamed for stuff being like you know
Starting point is 00:26:03 he's probably just sick of this shit and again that's all speculation maybe tim is the one that was like you know no like i was the asshole and bryson couldn't or maybe bryson says like tim was the asshole and i couldn't handle his like outbursts and stuff like what if that just came out that'd be unbelievable. That would be shocking. That would be a stunning moment. But you're right. It's all pure speculation for us. Like actually, Tim used to sit me in the corner and spank me with his towel all the time every time I didn't make a put and it was horrifying, so I had to get rid of him. Um, no, but Bryson's a nightmare. And he's a nightmare for everyone involved. I mean, anyone that talks to that guy for more than five minutes realizes he's a lot to handle. So imagine being with him
Starting point is 00:26:41 24-7. I can't. I will say I've never seen Bryson blame his caddy for anything. He always blames math and science. He's always like, I had that completely figured out. And for some reason, that putt didn't go in. I wonder if even that, I mean, that's got a wear on you too, where even if the guy's not blaming you for a mistake that happens, he's blaming something that's not him. Or like, he's, he's not taking any accountability for it. He's just saying, I did everything perfectly. And for some reason, it didn't go the right way. Like, that also would be exhausting. And look, like, we've seen in pretty much every caddy player relationship ever, at least a lot of high-profile ones,
Starting point is 00:27:22 that the player will blame or the caddy. Like, that just happens. We've seen it with Speeth and Greller. We've seen it with Bubba and Ted Scott. And those two tammons, by all accounts, are like as close as it gets. And you see that with anything. Like, I've probably just blamed Jake Bass for shit before that. Like, he probably didn't deserve.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'm sure Dave Portnoy just blamed shit on Frankie. Borrelli all the time. You don't deserve. So that is just like a a work relationship thing that happens. But dude, I think every time we ever saw Tim at a tournament, he looked miserable. Like miserable. He just wanted to be anywhere else on earth. And I brought up, so Bryson and his career has about $25 million in career earnings already. So if you do the 10%, you know, that's 2.5 million. Let's say he wasn't there for the whole time. I don't know the exact dates, but let's say he's made at least two million dollars off of Bryson DeShambeau in three, four, five years, however long it's been. That's damn lucrative. This week alone, Bryson is the favorite. If he were to win, he'd win about
Starting point is 00:28:28 $1.35 million, which would be, again, around 130k or so that Tim would take home, even if he finishes fifth. That'd be 30K that Bryson would take home. So he'd be making 30K this year with with the top five finish or this week or higher, and he couldn't make it four more days. So if the speculation is correct that it was Bryce, it was Tim's call, not Bryson's, which I think everyone's on that page, just speculating.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We don't know that could come out to be untrue, but we're just speculating. Like he got to a point, he put his time in this week, practice rounds, he's out there grinding, going through the green reading book, making notes,
Starting point is 00:29:08 and he just woke up Thursday morning. It was like, you know what? I'm fucking out of here. And that is, that tells you a lot, I think, about the relationship. The timing does tell you a lot. It doesn't necessarily tell you which person decided I'm done, but it definitely tells you that it was a last second decision.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And after the meltdown on the back nine that Bryson had at the U.S. Open, Tim must have just, he must have thought about it and been like, maybe I'll keep going. And then like, like, Riggs is saying, just had a moment of clarity Wednesday, Thursday morning, being like, fuck this. because the timing does make you think that it wasn't like the greatest of endings. Well, think about any midseason like breakup sports relationship where it just fizzles away or stops.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's because things have gotten so bad. And then there's usually like one moment that's just like, you know what? This is a drop all. I'm just done. And midseason, they're like, so I'm very interested in this story. Tea Daddy is being just a storyline guy. Like I think whatever comes out about this will be super interesting because end of the season you see we're just going to move and separatees. It just didn't go like our way.
Starting point is 00:30:17 We didn't have the success we wanted, et cetera. But with something like this, you know that there is either a conversation or something that was just like we were holding this relationship together by a thread because of this. It's just over. So very interesting to see what comes from this. I mean, that's one of the toughest jobs in sports. Yeah. Breaking news as we're recording, trying not to, you know, be on the computer the whole time. But Jake Bass just said this to us that Brooks Kepka just tweeted a picture of he and his caddy and just wrote,
Starting point is 00:30:52 couldn't do it without my guy, Rick, best friend and greatest caddy to do it at Ricky Elliott Appreciation Day. That is a phenomenal tweet. That is a phenomenal tweet. I like the, I like subliminal Brooks the most. Yes. That's where his stuff is the best. When he's not directly talking about Brooks or directly making fun of Brooks and instead is like like subliminally, that's the best shit. That's a great fucking tweet.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, when he was when he was with Mikhailobulchra and saying like if you say Brooksie or something, you get a beer or something like that, horrible. That's when we went after him. when I personally went after him, I think that that shit was just so lame and stupid. This funny tweet. Like this coming from anyone would be funny. This is just the picture is hilarious. Like they're like embracing each other. It's a very, very funny picture.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's just such a good tweet. I couldn't agree more. This is the ideal Brooks. If Brooks, and I get it, you got to find yourself a little bit. Maybe he'll level off in this area. But this version of him when he does stuff like that is as good as it gets. Remember when Bryson went off on the. photographer and Brooks tweeted out the GIF, the Royd rage Giff.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Like that's, he's just sub-tweeting and that stuff is very, very funny. Very funny. This is a page out of Dave's book right here, like to just like the complete spite and, and such a like, you know, it's, it really digs deep. Like that kind of tweet really digs deep to a guy like Bryson D. Chambot. Totally. Because like who left Hugh in that relationship? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Like was it just like, we're done? did he quit where they're both like it's mutual. I mean, that one digs deep. That's a, that's a beautiful, that's artwork right there by Kepka. I hope for the benefit of all of us golf fans that Tim, or whichever side is the most mad, and the one that left the relationship is willing to speak publicly about it, because I would really love to hear what's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I mean, Tim, Tim going on a podcast, our podcast would be, if it went down the way that we think, it would be like when somebody finally leaves the White House and they're like, you know what, I got some shit to say. That is kind of hopefully the position that he's in because it would be great for the golf world. Also, we'd get, if Tim did this, we would get Bryson's true feelings on the Brooks stuff
Starting point is 00:33:26 because they just went through all of this. And I guarantee Bryson is talking to his caddy about Brooks. Like obviously the public stuff is like, oh, I'm going to take the high road and, you know, he's kind of doing his thing. I'm doing mine. But I would love to hear the actual shit that Bryson talks about Brooks to his caddy. So again, if Tim wants to come publicly, he can come right on this podcast and talk about it. Love to have him on the show. More than, more than welcome to come on this show.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So now it'll be interesting to see Bryson, who he's got in the bag this week. I imagine it'll just be an interim situation. I think, you know, whether it's his agent or whether it's somebody from one of his sponsors or whatever. find, but who he gets in the future, because it is a very lucrative job. People like to make money. Money is very important. It's an extremely lucrative job. Bryson's not going to stop making money, I don't think, for the next 10 years. So even if you could put in a couple years time, it's probably worth it. Joe La Cava, like I don't, I don't know, him and Tiger, Bryson and Tiger, played a lot of rounds together, seen to be buddies going into, you know, Ryder Cup and
Starting point is 00:34:29 all that a few years ago. It was like the Tiger was kind of picking. Bryson's brain a little bit on his approach and that kind of stuff. So maybe it would be something like that because Joe Lakova did caddy for Freddie couples a few weeks ago on a championship event. But the caddy player relationships, man, are weird. Like Tiger did not like when Steve Williams went off with Adam Scott at all. It's almost like a little bit of a kind of, that's my girl thing. Like there's a little bit of that in player caddy relationships.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So I don't know that Joey, and we all know Joey's been the most loyal guy in the world. Like I was thinking about it the other day, because I was watching some fucking Tiger highlight, you know, for the past and thinking, like, there was a stretch where Joe Lakova went from Dustin Johnson's bag, who's been the number one player in the world for much of the last handful of years, to Tiger Woods's bag. And then for years, three, four years, Tiger just didn't play. And Joe just didn't take another bag. Like, he could have easily made hundreds of thousands of dollars over those years,
Starting point is 00:35:25 taking somebody else's bag, but he's such a loyal, awesome salt-of-the-earth guy that he was like, nope, Tiger's my guy. So that seems unlikely, but I was just thinking in terms of caddies with notoriety, big names that are up for grabs. Maybe, you know, maybe bones, like with bones, because he's done the Justin Thomas thing. He's jumped out of the booth and into the inside the rope. So it'll be interesting to see who takes that loop. Real quick, on the Joe Likava side, I don't know. He did actually recently caddy four Freddie couples in a tournament.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And he was pretty excited about that to get back with his guy, Freddie Couples. And it seemed like he was like, he's the most loyal dude of all time, the best person on this planet. I don't know that there's a nicer man than Joe Likava. I don't even know if I said this on this podcast, but now the playoffs are over and everything. Jolokava went to an Islander game and came to Borrelli's pregame, loved everything about it. He was eating pizzas. He was drinking beers. We were talking golf.
Starting point is 00:36:25 This was after we saw him at the Breaking 100 day at Brookville. So me and Joey have just become like when we see, other we like embrace each other i mean i joey lakov is like my god and uh post game after a big islanders when he came back and we're talking about everything he's like yeah man like freddie and tiger those are two like the best guys that you can possibly be around in golf he's like if you guys ever talked to freddie i'm like freddy couples no like bam bam like what do what are you talking about like and he's like oh like you want to like say hi to him for a second i was like what joey like what are you like he just like facetimed him and freddie's in a in a hotel at a golf
Starting point is 00:36:59 turf and like, Joey, he's like, hey, I'm with the four play guys, Frankie. He's like, Frankie, how's it going? We just talked about golf and sports for about like 10 to 15 minutes of just FaceTiming for any couples. And Joey's like, how was that for you? I was like, fucking awesome. He's just the man. So I just wanted to put in that little story because it just shows like when a guy like Joey is on the bag, it's different. Like that would never happen. What happened to Bryson and Tim would never happen to a guy like Joey. He is the actual. guy's partner for life. Like he's he and, um, and Freddie couples have a relationship, regardless of whatever happens after they are not playing golf anymore or he's on his bag.
Starting point is 00:37:41 They are brothers because of what they went through. Tiger Woods and Joey Likava, brothers because of what they've went through. That's the kind of guy Joey is. So I don't want to put all the blame on Bryson now that like, when you see how caddies are able to react and interact with their players, like maybe Tim's just not like the guy cut out for a guy like Bryson or like, you know what I mean? Like he could be just as much to blame for not being able to like dish it back or or accept a lot of criticism. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Like, we don't know enough about it. So when you see a guy like Joey, it just makes you think like that's, that's the tier. That's, that's the top of the tier type of relationship guy that you want on the bag. Yeah. 100%. And look, like Joey is as good as it gets. There's a reason that, you know, when Tiger was open, it didn't have a loop that they went to a guy like Joey La Cava, even though he's with one of the best players in the world, like,
Starting point is 00:38:31 that guy's as good as it gets. And it's true. He is. He's a fucking elite guy. His family's awesome. He's the salt to the earth as it gets. Genuine, authentic, everybody you've ever met who asks about or talks about Joey Likava talks about him with the highest regard.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So there's a reason that a man like that with the best character is with the biggest superstar in the history of golf. Like that just makes sense. Guys, the night that he came to Borrelis, he's sitting down. Legs crossed, sitting back in a chair telling stories just about golf and Freddie couples and Tiger Woods. And he's telling this one story. I think I was kind of like talking to him as if he was on the podcast. I'm like, Joey, how do you get a job with Tiger Woods?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Did you fucking go on like LinkedIn? Like, how do you get hired by Tiger Woods? And he's telling like a story about how he met. And as he's talking, now during the playoffs, I kind of did this thing where I'd lock off the back of the restaurant and any players that wanted to come in, we would make it to speak easy essentially at Borrellis. is all stuff that I wasn't talking about during the playoffs because it was like I wanted to keep it hush-shut. So players would come back, guys, like, you know, Islander alumni would come back there. All the people that were at the Coliseum would all come to the restaurant and we'd have like our own little VIP in the back.
Starting point is 00:39:40 While everyone was going crazy in the front, it was a frat party in the front room. And we would literally hang up curtains on the windows so no one would see it. And they'd park in the back parking lot the TD bank and walk in the back entrance. Fucking awesome memories. But anyway, Joey's sitting back there telling and you just see, as he's talking, a couple people stop their conversation over here at this table and they start walking over. Someone else goes, oh, what's he talking about? And starts walking over. And at one point, he's sitting there, legs crossed, beer and hand, talking to 20 people standing around him. Just, just talking about golf
Starting point is 00:40:12 and his experiences and he's so fucking good at telling stories and relaying it. And his imagery is incredible. You feel like you're there. You can almost smell the golf course as he's telling you. They're walking up to 18th Green. You can feel the pressure. He's like, telling these stories like that. So I don't want, I feel like I'm hyping him up so much. We have to get this guy on the podcast. Joey La Cava has to come on here at some point in his life and come on here and tell his stories because the people need to hear this guy speak. How did he say you got the job with Tiger? Well, I'll leave that for when we eventually get him on the podcast. See, I was just going to say there's an element of, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:50 we've had good relationship with Joey for years now. We, Joe, always the reason we're able to get that chat with Tiger, where he asked Trent, where he's stationed. Like, Joey makes that stuff happen. And there is an element of, it's almost cool to keep him at arm's length from the podcast and just be like buddies with him. But also if we don't parlay it into Joey coming on the show at some point and just telling stories, then that would be a huge myth. So it's a little peek behind the curtain.
Starting point is 00:41:21 It's always weird for us to be like, hey, you're our boy. We love just hanging out with you. You can say no if you want. but like if you came on the podcast, that'd be awesome. I said that to him and I would say it was taken very, very well. Okay. So we will have to pursue that at some point. Obviously, he doesn't know what's happening in his future right now.
Starting point is 00:41:39 So like Joey will have to make his own decisions on that. But all I know is that for play podcast is the biggest Joey La Cava fan base podcast on this planet. We will, I personally, and I think you guys will be there right beside me arm in arm, I will go to war for that man. regardless of whatever happens in this lifetime, Joey Lakava, I will go to war for you. I fucking love him. I'll go to war right now.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I love him. I love him. Hall of Fame. The only weapon I could find is I just had a pair of scissors. Are caddies inducted into the Gulf Hall of Fame? Oh yeah. Joey, I believe, was like inducted. I don't know if it's necessarily the same.
Starting point is 00:42:16 It might be like the caddy or something different. But I think Joey was inducted into something a few years ago. Okay. There you go. Well, he should be inducted to all of them. Even like baseball hall of him. I don't know. Just put him in every hall of him you could possibly put him in.
Starting point is 00:42:29 So his bib should be everywhere. You walk into like the hockey Hall of Fame and Joe Lakov's bib is there, like next to like Mike, like Richter fucking goalie pads or something. So in 2019, he was inducted into the caddy Hall of Fame. But you're right. He should get into just the general hall of fame. It's also amazing to think that that man was there on the 18th green, hugging Tiger Woods. In the, in the biggest moment, probably most famous.
Starting point is 00:42:55 moment in the history of golf. I mean, the 2019 Masters will go down as the most amazing, memorable, stunning, important win in the history of golf. And Joe La Cava was the one being like, you know, it's 181. I think it's a hard eight iron. That's amazing. It's fucking amazing, man. And like you said, his family is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They're huge sport fans and they're big barstool fans and everything about that family. I love. He's the nicest, most generous dude in the world. he texted me after the islander game like wishing me well saying how the islander game was cool and talking about the team and he's a big ranger fan so it takes a lot for someone like that to really like
Starting point is 00:43:34 get into the islanders and god I just like that guy so much man I'm just swooning over joey you got to bonk of me right now did lark send you a text after the islander game after the islander lost fuck that guy i'm just saying that was the rangers you know no why would I after the loss what
Starting point is 00:43:50 sorry that they lost to tampal well just you could have done what joel lakava did I don't know. No, I could have, but Frankie doesn't have his emotions in check, and he takes it out on me, and he's a little baby. So I didn't want to even touch that stuff. I was okay. I was okay after the loss, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:44:04 People texted me, they called me, and I was just like, you know what? I'm fucking heartbroken, but I'm not going to take it out on anyone. A lot of people Monday at the Classic and Tuesday in Chicago, actually, their first question to me was how was Frankie doing? Yeah, everyone's been very somber. Just because, like, we're watching the, we're watching the fucking finals out. And that, that Eastern Conference Finals was the championship. that was the finals.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I mean, whoever got out of that was Tampa Bay is just rolling Montreal. They're better. That's what losers are stronger. I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:32 your team's lost just as much as mine has, so. Right, but I'm just saying like that's like the losing mentality. Like you lost that.
Starting point is 00:44:38 And so like, that was the finals, East Coast of finals. Like, no, it wasn't. It was a semis. All right,
Starting point is 00:44:43 Riggs, I'm going to take off here, but I'll catch you guys next time we were forward. You want to do a separate zoo call? You want to have a link up over there? We're just talking sports. Link up.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I didn't think it was just going to get shut down like that, but it's all right. We can continue. What do you mean? I just said it's like, that's what, like, it was the semi-fine. It's not really what losers say. What I'm saying is, like, I think the Islanders would have beaten the Montreal Canadians. I think it's pretty evident that, like, Tampa Bay is a much better team than them. Islanders pushed them to game seven, a one-goal deficit.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I mean, a lot of people are saying that that was the finals. It's like a thing people say in sports. I'm not being a sore loser. I've taken real. I can possibly get. It's just like what people say when they lose in the semifinals. They think their team deserves more accurate. When the team they lost to in game seven goes on to eventually probably sweep the team in the Stanley Cup finals, it's pretty easy to say that there was something there.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Potentially, but, you know, different playing styles, different, like puck bounces, different ways. Like last night, the goalie for Tampa, like stood on its head, a bunch of deflections, hit a stick, luckily. You know, you never know how it goes. That's true. It's a good run. Your team's amazing. I will say that. No doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:45:56 They're good. They're incredible hockey team. You think they're going to get broken up a lot? Frankie, where are they at with their contract stuff? Contract problems, but Lou LaMerello, I owe everything to that guy. One of my tweets is it goes viral every July 1st. Artemi Pernaro will be a New York Islander, and everyone retweets it, and 610 Barstool and Avery Zaretskies of the world, the real Ranger fans.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Um, they end up retweeting me and they make videos about me saying Artami Paneras will be a New York Islander tomorrow. I've never deleted that tweet. I stand by it. I'm wrong. I mean, Darren Drager, all these people said that Panera was going to be an islander. So I just went on it. Um, but my, the only reason I bring that up is because ever since that day, Lou LaMerello has just corrected his wrongs, like figured out a way to just get past the Rangers those last two years since Artami Panera has not been an islander. And I just put a lot of faith in that guy.
Starting point is 00:46:50 They got to sign Pellick, the best defenseman on the team, and they got to re-signed Sezicus. Do they have capspace? No, they have zero cap space. But it is what it is. Like, we'll figure it out. Guys will get moved. But the core of the team will stay. They will re-sign Pellick.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And this is another thing. It's like, that's just going to get retweeted if they don't. My hope is that they resign Pellick. If they have to lose Sizicus, he's an identity guy. It happens. But I think that they're so deep at this point. Like, they were making roster decisions in game seven of the Eastern Conference. finals or the semifinals it was called this year so i think they're deep enough to you know lose a guy
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Starting point is 00:49:25 now I'm going to pitch you guys a few segment ideas. I was driving back from the golf course last night. Also, real quick, I want to remind everyone, we said in the beginning that we've recorded this on Thursday. So Bryce and Deschambeau for sure will have made comments or someone from his team. You've got to think that there will be some sort of confirmation or anything about this caddy situation.
Starting point is 00:49:48 We do not know that as of right now. Because, like, you're already seeing people, like, tweeting about, like, how they're going to get him after the round. He just teed off at 110. So, like, something will happen. And I want you all to know not to get angry on Twitter. These guys are losers and they don't tell us X's and O's about exactly what happened. We don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:50:05 As you hear us, we don't know. That was awesome. It's just, some guy just fucking tweet at me. Our fucking promo about us putting. our golf bags, our shit in our golf bags and we're complaining. He goes, real first world problems, huh? You guys are such fucking losers. First world problems?
Starting point is 00:50:24 Everyone puts fucking luggage on planes, dude. What are you talking about? Jesus Christ. First world problems? These guys are losers. Only you Frank, you rich fuck. You rich elitist douchebag. Look at this guy packing clothes in his fucking bag, trying to save money so he doesn't pack two bags. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:50:43 He doesn't want to pay for that $30 extra bag so he's fucking packing it was golf bag. Champagne problems. Champagne problems. While he's trying to get early in line on Southwest, he doesn't have to get a middle seat. Jesus, these people, man. All right, let's go to the ideas.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I'm excited. The other thing I wanted to add actually about the Bryson thing. It speaks to how much Bryson is a needle mover in golf. Like, dude, his caddy just, like, quit. And they're talking about lining him up for interviews after. Everyone's, like, on pins and needles about who's going. It's just Bryson moves. needle. You can fucking hate the guy. I think overall now, more of the stuff that he does newswise
Starting point is 00:51:19 and everything is a little bit like, I have a distaste for it more than I like it and enjoy it. But man, everything that guy does makes news in the golf world. Everything that happens to him is huge news. They're waiting afterwards. All the journalists are lining up to interview Bryson after his Thursday round about his caddy, who's not even Bryson, and what happened? Yeah, it's spectacular. Also, if you just look at like the Brooks' tweet and on Instagram and stuff, there is that like people are somewhat turning the assholes on Twitter and Instagram. They're like, knock a guy when he's down. Why don't you, Brooks? And, oh, is this like too much? Like, let the guy, let the guy live. Bryson lives in Brooks's head
Starting point is 00:52:00 because every time Bryson does something, Brooks then reacts. So it is this whole 50-50. You don't know where people stand now. It is, it's interesting to see where this is going. Brooks said something the other day that I think really ended up turning some people. Maybe he was on Sports Center and he was saying I think the reporter asked him like, do you guys think you'll ever like get dinner and just like hash
Starting point is 00:52:22 this thing out and like what is this beef even really over? And then Brooks like, he just said like I'm not going to disclose what it's about but I don't think we'll be getting dinner anytime soon. He knows what he did. He kept saying like he knows what he did. And people were like, what do you talk? about what the fuck are you talking about he kept he like he said he started it basically brison started
Starting point is 00:52:43 this whole thing so was all his fault but yeah that was just was that on esbian or something like that yeah like a short little interview about it uh like what did he fuck his girlfriend or something like what he what does he mean by that right but i did i did read a couple of the kind of people being like well now this is just high school you're just saying you're like oh i'm not going to say it but he knows what he did when it's like we all want to know and it just seems like i do think people are starting to turn on him a little bit talked about his abs like three years ago. Right. Yeah. No. And I, the Barstall classic is actually a really good barometer for stuff, because we just, like we just have a hundred golf fans at each one that we kind of chat with. And they all
Starting point is 00:53:20 bring up, very commonly bring up the Brooks Bryson thing. And people were split on it. I think pretty similar to how we are. Like there's times where I think Brooks comes off amazing. There's times where it comes off like kind of an asshole. And there's times when Bryson comes off is very likable and sort of almost like endearing. We're like, yeah, just let this kind of like golf dork do his golf dork stuff. There's other times where it comes off like a total loser. So, yeah, the whole thing is a little bit split. I think it probably will be forever. But, yeah, well, Bryson moves the needle, man.
Starting point is 00:53:49 You should almost set up a voting booth at these Barclosics and have them like, who are you team, Bryson or Brooks, and then just have the results. We can talk about them on the podcast. Because I do think, because we've talked about, like, we pick up golf fashion trends from the classic. We're like, what are people wearing? What's hot this summer?
Starting point is 00:54:08 for that. And like, it is just a very good sample of normal golfers and what they like, what they dislike, all that stuff. I think we just came up with a great content idea, Trent. I know what we're going to do. We're going to set up a confession cam at the classic with like a hot button topic and golf and just have people sit down, film them and we'll splice it into a video of like what the people think about golf. 100%. That's a great idea. From the gallery. That's a no brainer. That's absolute no brain. And you're right. We do like with a lot of the merch we put on sales. so people know. Whenever people show up to the classic,
Starting point is 00:54:40 I just fucking walk around and stare at their outfits and then I just text our merch team. This is what people were wearing. We put parts to golf on it and we start selling it. I have a confession. I have a confession. Oh, God. Speaking of like outfits.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah. I golf yesterday. Okay. And I fucking wore shorts. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did. Shut the fuck up. I fucking wore shorts.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Was it because you were alone? It was because I was with my buddy Andrew, and I knew that there was no one on the golf course, except for those two guys that ran right through us at the country club. And it was fucking 100 degrees of humidity out here. I almost passed that out there in shorts as it was. And I had pants on. I walked outside.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I got in my car. I said, I can't do this. I can't. I've been fasting. I haven't eaten all day. I haven't done shit. I had to,
Starting point is 00:55:25 I threw on shorts. It took me about a half an hour to find shorts. I was 25 minutes late to the tea time because I couldn't find fucking golf shorts. I finally found a pair of puttumular pants that were in a bag still that they've sent me like two years ago because I've told them not to send me shorts. I don't want to look at them, but I fucking wore them. First thing my buddy says is, whoa, look at those legs, like in a bad way. And I said, well, this is why I don't fucking wear them.
Starting point is 00:55:49 This is why I don't fucking wear them because of that. And also, because you shouldn't worry about what I'm wearing and you shouldn't worry about the heat or the condition that I am in. Worry about yourself. See, I hate that shit. Don't worry about my. Did he take any pictures? No, there's no pictures.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah, I picture you attacking your friend like Alec Baldwin and the paparazzi when he as to take a picture, you're just like going after him. You got to pay for these legs. Yeah, you got to pay to see these legs. You also, Frankie, you do do the, like, why do people care what I'm wearing? But then you, like, will lose your mind on Trent if he has wires exposing in his apartment. Like, why would you care if he has wires exposed? Also, you said, like, well, look at those legs.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Like, you treat your legs like they're like this hidden temple and they don't see the light of day. It's like a kid who's played video game for 12 hours. It's like somebody's played video. games for like 12 hours and then they see like the sun they're like squinty that's your leg right that is true like you make a of a smaller problem worse by not wearing pants and the legs just get
Starting point is 00:56:48 whiter and whiter and whiter and then when you finally It's not about the whiteness guys it's like They're just not nice legs it has nothing to do it's a combination of things Yeah I think the whiteness they're blinding dude Bro they got to be drama who wants calf implants like that's you Yeah I just so self-conscious about your legs knees and everything like I just don't like these and I also just like don't usually get that hot so I like to wear pants.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But are they not just translucent white? See the problem is they're not translucent white because I do like walk, I like lay out on the weekends and stuff. Like I do wear shorts like in a pool and I'll like go to like my friend's house who has a pool and I'll just like lay out there. I do, but in golf shorts they're just bad man. Listen, it doesn't have to be a whole thing about my legs. I just wanted to say a confession about I wore shorts. It's been about, I don't know, two years since I wore golf shorts.
Starting point is 00:57:42 How did it feel? How did it feel? You like it? It felt great, man. So just wear shorts, dude. It was way too hot to wear pants. But no, next video we do, pants for sure. Like Michigan, pants.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Every day. Why not? Just throw shorts just in case. Bring a pair of shorts. I'll bring a pair of shorts. I'm going to need Peter Milar. If you arrive to the T one morning, like when we're all kind of,
Starting point is 00:58:05 wake it up and you're in shorts. Come on. That'd be a moment. They send me these high shorts too because those are in. Who the fuck's wearing these high shorts, man? I walked there. Dude, it was a scene, man. I walked around. I thought I had to go straight to a hospital. Will you wear shorts if I wear shorts if we sort of have like a... No, you have fantastic legs, dude. You have... Look at you. You just nodded with a little fucking smirk. Anytime I wear shorts, people are like, you should wear shorts more often. I need Peter Millar to hook me up with shorts that go around the kneecap. I need something that covers up above the kneecap.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Like that area right around the kneecap's a nightmare. So I need something that covers up. Maybe I can wear a hybrid. Maybe I'll wear Caprize. Please. Yes. Everyone support it. Everybody support it. No brainer.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Please do. So yeah, that happened. And, yeah. It was a cyphi sore eyes. Thank you. All right. I've got six. I came up with six segment ideas.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Now, I did have a whole play. I came up with a few on the last night on the way home, and I couldn't jot them down really because I was driving, so I kind of forgot a couple of them. But then this morning, I was like, I got a few hours before we record. I'm going to come up with like 20. And then all this other news broke from things.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So I was trying to collect some information, and I didn't get as many as I want. But I want to preface this by saying, before I pitch my segment ideas, there's a little bit of a throwback to Rohn. Remember when Rohn was on the Dave Portnoy Show? Well, this is also a throwback, and it's actually making me want to jump out of my,
Starting point is 00:59:33 window is when I was, like my first two weeks with Dave, Fortnoy, I wasn't really doing anything at the job. I sucked. And I would go in, I'd learn how to video edit because I kind of snuck my way in there teaching myself on YouTube had a video edit and all this stuff. Took me a month to make one video that he loved. So I was learning from Millmore and whatever and I'm getting my feet wet and you can't get your feet wet around Dave, especially at that point. This was five to six years ago. He was still fucking going a thousand miles an hour every second. So he came up to me after almost firing me and he goes, I want, before you leave today,
Starting point is 01:00:07 I want 100 ideas for me by the end of the day, right? So I'm just ideas, like content ideas, places to go. 100. 100. So I said, okay. And I got to like 25. And I, like really thinking about ideas.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Like, we should go to here. You should do this. This is something that, I got like 25. I walk in his office. I'm like, hey, I got like 25. He's like, that's, that's not. not even, that's 75 away from what I told you.
Starting point is 01:00:35 He's like, you will not stop until you get 100. And I remember just writing down anything. Oh, we should do sunset reviews. Let's go to the fucking moon. Yeah. Tree color reviews. Anything. I can't with every fucking.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Microphone reviews. Laptop reviews. Sunset reviews kind of came to fruition. That's right. It's a goal now. Yeah, that's a good job. You know, I thought of anything. So that's the only reason that kind of just sparked something.
Starting point is 01:01:03 thing in my brain where I saw myself shivering in a corner in the back of my mind. Yeah. Yeah, I remember Rohn did the, uh, when, the one idea that I remember and he had a bunch of them and he was just going rapid fire. Was the Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe show. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah, it was Joe. Really good one. Really good one. He did. Coff. Joe. A coffee. Joe.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yep. And then. And coffee. Like Joe, a cup of Joe. And Jojo from, um, the Bachelorette. Yes. The Jo Jo Jo Jo Joe and Joe show. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:32 And that was probably. what got him hired. Like it wasn't even a real thing, but that was laugh out loud funny in that clip on social. So I want to preface this by saying, I'm going to, my plan is now for once a week to pitch you guys a handful of segment ideas and we'll talk about them and see which ones we keep. And the other thing I would like to say is that no idea is a bad idea here. Okay. This is, you can't, we're just, we're trying here. If it's really stupid, don't make fun of me and we'll just move on. This is a safe place for ideas. That's what it should be.
Starting point is 01:02:04 So any idea that you have, we might call it stupid, but we can still talk about it. Thank you. Of course. All right. I've got six of them. First one, it's going to sound really simple at first, but I'm going to throw a little explanation in that hopefully you understand. First one is, we each go through dream foursome of X topic. Now, I get that part of my take does like Mount Rushmore, but I think that's very simple of like just the top four, greatest four ever.
Starting point is 01:02:32 the little twist with Dream Forsome is that it's got to be a foursome. There's got to be that Kevis Street. It has to make a little bit of sense. So, for example, if you did like Dream Forsome of TV shows and you did like, you know, Breaking Bad and Seinfeld, like that could be a nightmare. I don't know that those two things would get along. But if you did like Breaking Bad and Lost, that could be a really interesting day out there with those two things mingling together.
Starting point is 01:02:59 We put a graphic online and it could get a little interaction and traction. going. Is that, so are the characters, are we thinking about Walter White teeing it up with Kramer? Or are we thinking of like the idea of Breaking Bad playing golf? And is it always like the idea as a person playing golf? Well, it leads to an interesting discussion. Now doesn't it, Frank? I like, I like you, if you say if you did TV shows and you had to pick characters, a single character from each one, there in the foursome. Does that make sense? Yes. I do like the idea of action. picking fours because then we have or who do you want to see on the golf course
Starting point is 01:03:36 right like tv shows comedies movies right so in your example rigs like you're saying it'd be like walter white kramer and i don't know about lost but i well i guess i would say it's a little bit then more up to not necessarily the overarching description of the segment but rather
Starting point is 01:03:55 the um subreddit if you will of that segment so like dream for some you almost do like TV show characters or whatever. But if you get a little bit more vague, then it could lead to whatever. So I guess it would depend on the topic. But like if we did, you know, superheroes, I think that's pretty obvious. But you're right. If we did just TV shows, that could lead to a wild discussion.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Forces, dream forces for sure. Presidents, American tycoons, sports owners, TV shows. Yeah, anything. Any movie directors, musicians, bands. Yelp, let's do it. Starting next week. One for one. Come on.
Starting point is 01:04:34 All right. Dream foursums is it. Dave Grohl, Dream Forcums. Next one. Next one. Who said it? Very simple. I just present a quote and then you guys discuss, guess who said that quote.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I think it would play well on social where people just guess and we kind of discuss it. Not much to it. Pretty simple, kind of one-dimensional. Golfers or? Is there anything? It's just a quote. It would be kind of funny if I, for weeks, got you guys. I'm in on the idea.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Because we're not going to get any of these. But if for weeks I got, but that would be kind of up to me as the host to like get something that's close enough that you guys could guess. But, but yeah, it's okay. I'm very on that. That's great. Yeah, I mean, that's a good content piece. And we're not going to get me. Again, that's pretty simple.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Tea, what are your thoughts? I was, I got stuck on the, um, the dream for someone when Frankie said he wanted, uh, different. He just wanted Dave Grohl and all of them. and I was thinking like Nirvana, Dave Grohl, Foo Fighters Dave Grohl. Was he ever in another band? Was he maybe probably early on he was in a different band? Why Queens of Estonia, she was the drummer.
Starting point is 01:05:43 There you go. Is that a big band? I never even heard of them. They are, yeah. They are. Yes, they are. So who said it's in? Come on, we could tweak the names, but that's just...
Starting point is 01:05:55 So, sorry, because I was really like a deep and thought about that. Who said it is... Yeah, you look... up. I was just thinking, trying to think of a third band. Mentally, just looked shut down. I was like, what's he doing over there? That Dave, I just, I just, we should do this.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I just read a quote and then I would even say that you guys could text me individually who you think said it so that you don't reveal your answer to the other people. And then we just kind of go through and see and then it opens a discussion. And we put that quote, you know, on social and people kind of guess, um, People can cheat. They can just Google it. But if they want to play an F-1, they wouldn't. Love it.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Okay. I'm in. Okay. Next one really similar. Guess by the dress. I just show you guys an outfit and you'd kind of guess who wore it or who, yeah, who wore it. Okay. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:48 That one's probably not as cool, but, you know, I don't know. Yeah. I don't hate that. Okay. Is that, again, is that just golfers in their outfits or is this? Look, I would say, for all the. the categories in terms of the parameters, I would say
Starting point is 01:07:04 it's similar to the show, where we try to keep it as close to golf as possible, but occasionally you don't never know. Slip it to the cosmos once in a while. I might hit you with fucking Leonardo da Vinci what he wore on like 1492 and you're just kind of like how are we supposed to get that? They were showing a, they were throwing
Starting point is 01:07:20 a throwback, excuse me. Is that breakie? You're right? I know. I'm hot. I'm fucking hot again. Harry? Harry? We're throwing a show back, huh? Remember when Sergio Garcia wore that piss yellow outfit, all yellow, Tiger Sunday at the British Open? Tiger just dusted him?
Starting point is 01:07:42 Dusted him. And I was just watching it. I was like, I can't believe. It's so funny how fashion changes where, like, you look back at that now and you're like, that's the worst outfit ever. But then back then, Sergio woke up that morning, Adidas gave him this outfit, and he's like, yeah, I'll wear that. And it was totally fine. It's just, it just ages so fast. Dude, and it was like brown and baked out like Link's golf and he just blended in with the ground.
Starting point is 01:08:06 It was proposed. Dude, Taylor May put out a promotional video a couple weeks ago of guys hitting shots in slow motion. And fucking, they showed Sergio Garcia's legs. He was in shorts like during a practice round. And his legs are fucking, they're unfathomable. Like you can't, you can't, you can't comprehend how, how beefed up and perfect. his like leg muscles are. It's on their Instagram.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I'm going to have to try and find it. It was weeks ago, like before one of the tournaments. Maybe before the U.S. Open, honestly. I just Googled Sergio Garcia legs. Dude, I think he's an elite soccer player. Someone told me that he chose between soccer at one point in his life, soccer and golf. Was it again? I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Sergio Garcia? Oh. Oh, yeah, I'm sure he's got great legs. It has to be from soccer. Those fuckers all play footy growing up. Like Rory, didn't like Rory get hurt one time playing a little footy back in Northern Ireland. He twisted his ankle, yeah, he fucked his ankle.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Oh, if you just type in Sergio Garcia Soccer, there's a few pictures of him just running around in a soccer uniform. He's got a laugh-out laugh-ball. Yeah, he like plays with the, he like his practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's that outfit. I'm going to have to find this. I'll send it to you guys.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Shout out to Messi for getting a four-year $674 million deal. That number? I thought that just... Oh, no, it was 460. Ended. Yeah, it just ended. So did you get another one? No, no, it was $678 million for years.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Yeah. That just expired. I don't know anything about that. I just saw a tweet. I saw one tweet fly by me. And that's all the research I did. Oh, man. That can't be American dollars, by the way.
Starting point is 01:09:50 That number was amazing. I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't believe it. I thought that was going to be one of like a. Rick DiPiatro contract where it's for like 80 years at least. It's a ricochet shot. Oh, we're also recording this on Bobby Bonilla Day. We're talking a lot of contracts. That's true.
Starting point is 01:10:07 We are recording this on Bobby Bonilla Day. He makes like one point something million until, for what, another 15 years or something like that? Until 2035, which is so absurd because he hasn't been in the MLB for seemingly 20 years. 2001. You guys think I've figured out life. Look at this fucking guy. He's getting over a shmill a year for 35 years,
Starting point is 01:10:27 doing nothing he's just credit cards get paid today he's just mapping these things out for the year and then here's my million 1.1 let's pay them up all right what's the next idea riggs all right next idea oh hold on i found that video well you don't have to hold on it's just i'm just gonna text it to you guys it's on one of the slides we can do a reaction sorry it's an audio it's an audio podcast it's on like one of these slides next one's a little different this one's called ninth green at nine and every single podcast at the nine minute mark the producers just play a shooter McAvin quote from Happy Gilmore. I love that.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Love that. Brendan, the producer likes it. I think Brennan just came. So, okay, any quote. They just,
Starting point is 01:11:14 we won't even know. And we'll be lost in the sauce. Like you and I and the four of us, we'll just be talking. All of a sudden, they're just going to hit us with a shooter. And that's to be like, oh,
Starting point is 01:11:21 it's the nine minute mark. So it's, oh, so we'll hear it. They won't just edit it in post. They'll play it during. They're going to just play it. And it's,
Starting point is 01:11:29 it's almost going to be, like when they play fucking bagpipes at like 5 p.m. at certain golf courses or whatever, they just, at nine minute mark, they just hit us with a shooter McGabbin quote. I don't know that we will be able to hear that as a recording. Okay, it's 2021. If we can't figure that out, we should just fucking quit and go do something. Okay. What if we did it?
Starting point is 01:11:51 What if we, instead of the nine minute mark, what if we did the 90 minute mark? So then we would know, well, nine minutes just seems early. go. I don't know that we always go 90. But like, I think the nine minute would ensure that it gets in there. And I don't know. Again, these weren't, these haven't been seriously vetted. This is just kind of a. That was not the worst one, but it's also not the best one.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Okay. That's fair. I'm going to put it. They don't like it. Or, I don't know. Okay. Okay. Took this to school, mommy.
Starting point is 01:12:22 And they're just the friends don't like it. You would just said that we don't always get to the 90 minute mark. That's true. But how about any show that we'd, do with the 90 minute mark shooter jumps in. Okay. So then we'd know. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah. Because I think it's a ninth green at 90, we'll call it. Because I think at nine minutes it's going to be too early, and I'm going to be thinking about it. And I'm going to be like, when is this shooting? Make anything happen? And I'm going to forget. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:47 All right. Okay. I like it. Yeah. If that just pops in, that'd be very, like, holy shit, we're at 90 minutes. That's funny. Yes. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:12:57 90 minutes. I like it. That's a nice wrinkle. All right. We'll have to figure out the technology. We could barely get microphones to work. That's true. I just got a mic that worked yesterday.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Barstlesports.com slash tailormade. So, as you know, we've been tailor-made athletes for- I love this segment. I'm a big fan of this segment. Half a year now. You could call this a segment, also known as an ad read, but I'm showcasing to you fellows right now, my P-770s. This is my eight iron, which I pulled out of my bag.
Starting point is 01:13:29 and I can't get over how sexy these things are. People have asked a lot, like, all right, the Taylor-made deal, what's going on, how legitimate is this? The irons are by far the most amazing both the way they look, the way they play, and the way that they sound irons I've ever hit in a landslide. I couldn't agree more. It just looks really good. Yesterday I had like a 225-yard par three, and I took a four-iron out, and I hit it really high. it right on the fucking nuts. I mean, I creamed on this golf ball. A little bit of a draw.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I hit the back of the green and rolled back on this little plateau back towards the pin was the best feeling iron of all time. Didn't feel like I made contact with anything. I just went right through the golf ball. Oh my God. It went like anything, anytime you're hitting one of those long irons, 200 plus, it's the best feeling of all time. It was the best iron shot I've ever hit. And I want to recreate that every second of the day. I want that feeling in my hands. I want that. hands into my cock. That's T. Davy's feeling of golf. I feel like Tee, that's what you think of like good golf is long irons.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yes, because when I was at the kingdom, when we're all getting fitted at the kingdom, me and my fitter had a discussion about which irons I was going to get. Was it going to be the P790s or was it going to be something a little more forgiving? And we eventually went with the P790s. They're not as forgiving, but I told him that I was going to really be trying to improve my golf game this year and I wanted to grow into the 790s. 90s and now when I fucking catch one of the 790s, it's the best feeling and it's the best sound that you can get. It's that snap.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And when it goes, it's like Frankie's saying, you don't even feel it. It doesn't even feel like you touch the ball. It's, I'm so glad I won't with the 790s. They're obviously all great irons, but these irons are fucking. The difference is extraordinary. Like I had Mizuno's before. Like, just to blatantly say, like, I had Mizunos and then I had tidalists. The difference is staggering.
Starting point is 01:15:28 ring. I will be tailor-made iron player for the rest of my life regardless of what's going on. Like, they are that good. Look, I could not possibly agree more. And I like the long iron talk because I, if I'm working on something on the range, I think the true barometer of it is I then go to like a four iron and take a handful of swings. And like if you can hit a four iron or a five iron pretty consistently, like you can, you can play golf. That's just a fact. Like you can just get the ball and play and play pretty well. And these four, this four iron, I've got from my P770s. Dude, it's high in the air, stays in the air for a while, land soft. Even my misses, which I clank quite a bit of them.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Like they still get up there near the green. They land soft. They're in a good spot. And then the other thing I have to show you guys. Okay. So the TP5X, which is a great golf ball. I got it right here in the, you know, these. But my girl, Teresa, who played in the LTP from South Dakota State, the Jack Rabbits,
Starting point is 01:16:24 she sent me a couple boxes of these TP5Xs with the Jack rabbit on the side. Really cool. This is my most prized possession. Are these golf balls? That's an elite logo. It's a great logo. Oh, it's fucking.
Starting point is 01:16:37 And I shot my 75 yesterday with these golf balls with the jack rabbit on it. There you go. There's something there, man. Is this a segment idea, by the way? No. This is an ad read.
Starting point is 01:16:51 It's just us talking. I love it. Yeah, kind of mixed. I kind of tripped you guys up there. I mean, if we want to do this every show, I'm in. I love it. Taylormade. That dude, too.
Starting point is 01:17:01 They're Sim2, the woods are awesome. Sim2 Max. Everything's really, really good. So go to Taylor Maids' website store. Check them out. Go to Barstool Sports.com slash Taylormade. We have our own landing page. You can see what we use and get involved in the Taylor Made.
Starting point is 01:17:14 How good is the Jack Rabbit? It's the best one I've ever seen. I just want to say, you mentioned, like, when you're hitting a four and five and that's a good barometer if you're playing well. I can't tell you the last two times I've played golf, I probably hit more greens with my four and five than I did with my sandwich. It's insane. I mean, yesterday, yesterday, but like, that's, that's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:17:32 That's, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm hitting flush four iron, five iron, six irons and duffing 58s and 52s. It is a, it is a sad sight to watch me hit these golf balls like moonshot irons, great your eyes, hybrids off teas, three wood, dude, I worked a three wood around a dog leg left the other day as a lefty. I was like Bubba Watson. I actually finished like this. My second shot.
Starting point is 01:17:58 I'm like right in front of the green, chunked it twice with a 58. It's like, what just happened? I was elite 10 minutes ago. So yeah, that's my game right now. All right. Next segment idea. A couple left. This isn't necessarily like a unique idea.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I think a lot of different places do this, but I think it'd be fun if we did it, is basically a four-play survivor pool. So you pick a player each week that makes the cut. That's it. And you can only pick a player one. Once you picked him for that year, it's over. I think, again, this is not revolutionary. This is almost like claiming you invented the newsletter. Like, no, we're not inventing this up again here.
Starting point is 01:18:37 But I think it would be very fun. I think we could start really at any time because, like, with the wrap around, we would just do the calendar thing, whether we mix in some prize, tie it to varsal golf time, tie it to whatever. But I think picking one player each week, we'll do it in the Tuesday show, who's in the field, and do a survivor in the last person left. wins for the year and then we start up another one would be a fun idea. I think it's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And any other podcast that's like, oh, they're copying us. I'm sure other people do it. You didn't invent fucking survivor pools. Let me tell you something. You didn't invent shit. I think we do that for sure. Does that happen in other podcasts? I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:19:15 No, I'm just a common thing. Who knows? But it's a- Frank, he's just getting ahead of it. He's just getting ahead. Yeah, that's just an old podcast move right there. That's a good idea. And then this is the last one of the day.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I'm going to come with a handful each one. week. But the last one's called The Cut. And we each will do it. Let's say once. Cutler the podcast. Every show, we just fucking at the end of it, just say goodbye. Ding Tom, you got it, it. It's taking you so many fucking hours to come up with these ideas. Let's go. You nailed it, buddy. Finally. I think grinding. So the cut is you're kind of close, Frankie. Each week, each person, each person, eliminates one thing from the world of golf. You just eliminate one thing.
Starting point is 01:20:02 And then that's just your running list. And each week will update each person's running list. And by the end of it, we'll all have dozens of things that we have just cut out forever from the world of golf. Okay. Oh, I like it. Yeah. That'll get tricky. We're going to have a stripped down golf course by the end of this podcast.
Starting point is 01:20:20 There's going to be barely a ball out there. It's going to get close at the end. It's going to get really, it's going to get weird at the end. I mean, we're going to have to come up with weird stuff. Again, this one could be refined a little bit, but wait. Is this an aggregate? Is it or just individuals? Like, do we go around each week we do something different, but it's all to the foreplayed
Starting point is 01:20:40 golf or is it I have my own golf? Frankie has his own pathetic golf. We each have our own. We each have our own list of things that we've cut called the cut. This is like this would be, this would be Trent's cut list. And it's everything Trent's cut from the world of golf. And this could be just so unclear. It's not just to the game of golf.
Starting point is 01:20:59 It's things in the golf world. Correct. Okay. I like that. Correct. You could just cut like... Jeff Schaferred. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:08 He's out. He's gone. Okay, good. That's my first pick. All right. Or like, yeah. All right. I like that.
Starting point is 01:21:15 That one I really like. And look, we say that it's going to get dicey, but also you could just cut like a golf hole and that's just gone. Like forever. So, you know, you got to get creative with it. That's the point. We've got to activate those brains, that neurological system you got up there and try to, you know, try to do it. Yeah, I like it. We do that.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I'm doing the thing Frankie is just tried to defend against. But when we do cutting stems, every week we cut like a thing from that episode of The Bachelor of the Bachelorette. So it's, I like have my practice in. I know I'm excited for that. Do you want us to not do that? No, that's not what I'm saying. You're stepping on toes here? No.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I'm saying it's a good idea. We're stepping on. Roses or what? Did we cut your stems there from here? Trent, how is that, how is Bachelorette going this year? I see, I mean, as always, there's a lot of hype around it on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Is it another banger of a season? It's an okay season. Katie, the Bachelorette, is good at, she's no bullshit. She, like, if anybody starts, if, like, acting like they're not there for the right reasons, she sends them right home. And usually, or in more entertaining seasons, I will say, those people get kept around for whatever reason and they cause chaos.
Starting point is 01:22:36 But she's very good at seeing a problem and getting rid of it. So it's a more together and organized season, but that sometimes doesn't always make for the most chaotic season. She said to one person, your bachelor audition is now over. That happened. and she just said that to a guy that clearly was trying to become the next bachelor. Yeah, she said that to Thomas. Thomas admitted to the group. That's a hell of a line.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Thomas admitted to the group that he had thoughts of becoming a next bachelor when he came on the Bachelorette. Because that's what happened. Yeah, go ahead. Did you, so I watched that in real time. I flipped over. And did you think, like, her delivery there and all that was really, really good? Did you guys debate if that was scripted or not? we did not debate if it was scripted or not.
Starting point is 01:23:24 But I could see people. That was like a movie line. That was a movie line that shit dropped off. I said preposterous again. Someone do the tally. I said preposterous again. I made it through an hour and 20 minutes of this fucking podcast. You're like, I'm picturing one of those days in the workplace since the last accident.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And you are the preposterous guy. Yeah. Yeah, that line is straight out of a fucking villain movie. Like your watch has ended. Right. Yes. That's what I thought. And I'm not trying to shit on The Bachelor and say it's overly produced.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I don't care about any of that. I was just curious if you thought that she just fired that kind of off the cuff and was like, I'm going to address the situation or if there was a little bit of a meeting with the production crew because it was it was too perfect. There is a chance that it was scripted, but I do this thing sometimes with The Bachelor and The Bachelorette where I just view it differently where I'll just believe everything. I'll switch it on and I'll start believing everything. If you, because if you start wondering what's overproduced or what's scripted, you'll drive yourself a little crazy. And don't get me wrong, we talk about some of the things that do seem overly produced and scripted sometimes. But if you view the entire show through that lens all the time, you'll just end up hating the show and you'll leave.
Starting point is 01:24:37 So it's fun to believe the craziness sometimes. Yeah, I agree with that. And it's a better life. It's a better life. Absolutely. All right, gentlemen. So to recap, go ahead, Larch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:48 So are we going to do every one of these people? Every show? Well, no, no, no. These would be, you know, we'll pick a few each show. Maybe a few of them will do every week. We'll kind of, we'll workshop it and see what works. But we're not going to, like, oversaturate the whole show with just segments all the time. Because some of them seem like they needed a weekly input.
Starting point is 01:25:06 So then I'm thinking, how much time would we give it? A few of them. But also, like, I got to give you guys a heads up now of like, if we're going to do a dream for some, I can't just be like, hey, tell me your dream. You know, there needs to be some thought behind it. Yeah, the only two that I thought needed to be weekly would be, obviously, this survivor pool that has to be and then the 90 minute shooter magavin the other ones you can kind of pick and choose agreed um so to recap here's kind of my notes um the first one there's six of them first one dream for some i wrote in all caps they love it second one uh who said it i wrote in all caps
Starting point is 01:25:40 they love it um third one guess by the dress i wrote they think it's fine yeah it's okay it's fine Okay. It was hard to follow that one with the quote one. Because we like the quote one so much. Okay. Ninth Green at 90. I originally wrote, they don't like it,
Starting point is 01:26:01 then scratch it out and said, we got there. Yeah, I think we did. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Fifth one, four play survival.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I wrote, they love it. Sixth one, the cut. We eliminate one thing from the world of golf each time. I wrote they like it. Yes. It's a good list, man. think this is nice.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I think the listeners will all appreciate the refreshment of new ideas and different topics and stuff because, you know, the dog days of summer, that's what they are, man. It's like it's golf tournament after golf tournament. It's the same fucking shit day in and day out. And this will get us going. And how about we could also do a segment where not just rigs comes up with a segment. Like we a segment, a segment idea about segments. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Okay. You're right. Segment. Yeah, I'm going to write that time. Yes. I think like every few weeks I should pitch segments to you guys. And but also we then,
Starting point is 01:27:00 one of the times, every once in a while one of us, different people has to have. Comes up with the segments. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Okay. I like that. Every few weeks we'll do, we'll rotate whose turn it is to come up with segment ideas. Okay. You'll have like a week's notice to come up with segment ideas. You'll pitch us and we'll go through it. Frankie will be like golf ball reviews.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Just take me right back to that moment. I'll come with a hundred ideas. All right, gentlemen. I hope everyone had a good Fourth of July. I don't know if you did yet, but again, talking to the listeners. Hopefully we made it. It's Tuesday. Yeah, hope we make it, Frankie.
Starting point is 01:27:39 It's Tuesday, July 6th, 2021. Got to make five days. Holy shit. The next episode will air on Thursday, July 8th, 2021. So we will see you all then. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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