Fore Play - Riggs vs Whitney for $10k is now set

Episode Date: September 26, 2019

Riggs and Whitney have finalized details for their long-awaited $10k match. We breakdown the details, the expectations, and Riggs reveals what Frankie's caddie's cut will be. Plus, Trent's childhood nightmares won't die and Rory's dad is pretty damn good at golf!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Happy Thursday, everyone, fall golf, it's the end of September. A lot happening. We never really, we don't ever really slow down around here, never, ever, under any circumstances. A lot of shit going on, a lot of stuff to talk about in our world, in the golf world in general. I guess we can start. Let's start with Trent's picture.

I want to start there. Because, you know, at the end of the last show, it really went off the rails. You and I started talking about our pasts, our relationship with our older siblings. Dark little childhoods. You know, rig's getting tied up to a basement floor, cracking his head. And the lightning. To the sound of thunder and the streak of lightning. You know, Trent getting cross-dressed at the age of four or five years old.

Yeah. Yeah, I told my mom to give me the best guest because the picture didn't have a date on it. And she said she thinks I was about four years old in that picture. Is that right? Yeah, which throws people off because I look older. than that. But I was a large child throughout. So I was born. I was large. And then that just continued as I grew into. What was the headline in the newspaper? Big as baby ever or something. Yeah, big baby. Big baby was the headline. So, and then that continued. So when I, that picture,

I look like I'm like, I feel like nine or ten. I'm four years old just because I've always been a large person. So I, yeah, so it did. It got, it got a little dark, a little therapeutic. I think you were older than four years old. You look way older than four. I mean, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, like, 10 years old. Let's not just, like, be nice to Trent because, like, he cross-dressed. But he was cross-dressed. I don't think, I think some, you know, he got cross-dressed. He got cross-dressed. Yeah.

I'm not, I'm not saying that's concrete. You are legitimately eight years old in this picture. You're in school at that point. Dude, there's no way. I mean, I can just, I'm looking at you. You can't lie to me. You're not, I'm not lying to you, and I'm not trying to lie to you, but you're saying that my mother is lying to you. She just, maybe it's a white line. Look at your like,

like your arms are like a length that a four-year-olds just kind of a unit. You'd be like a four-year-old unit. You couldn't be four years old. You couldn't be. Look at where the couch is. You guys are acting like I haven't, that I wasn't the biggest baby ever born. Like four and a half feet tall.

It's true. Headlines said big baby. Right. Like I'm a person who has always been large. That's not the main story. Okay. The main story here is that you wore gloves, a purse,

The stockings, really, I mean. Yeah, and the polka dot blouse is really. I was texting a little bit with my sister after this was all happening, and she said, it's an Easter dress. So it was for Easter. I don't know if I wore it on the exact name Easter. My favorite part is that you said that your mom texted you saying, I don't know if that was the one. This isn't the one I was thinking of.

Trying to pull it up there's more. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. She said, oh, man, where it was last time I texted her? But yeah, you know, I was like, after the show, I texted her being like, hey, if you can, we talk about the. on the show.

If you could find the picture of me in a dress, it'd be kind of funny. We talked about on the show. And she spent all night looking for it and didn't find it. She texted me back and said, chances of finding it are slim. I've looked through tons of albums. I haven't been able to find it. The next morning woke up again, she's retired. She doesn't have, she's not doing anything all day long.

So she once again started looking and then she sent me the picture and said, not the one I was thinking of, but here you go. So that means there's more multiples of me wearing dresses. I don't know if she's going to send those. Different outfits, different get-ups. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, what can you do? Did you make you sit down, like drink tea with them in the outfit?

You know, I didn't get specifics on it. My sister thought the story was very funny. She, you know, she should remember it was like eight years ago. She, this is out Christmas vacation. Four or five in that picture. I don't think so. She said, she said the part year old ever. You must have been just, if you were playing like any sort of organized sports, you must have been barreling people.

Dude, I'm huge. They used to. When I, when I played tea ball, um, they called me. They called me Big Cat because of Andres Colorado. Because of Andres Colorado, who he played for the Rockies and he'd play, he was just, he was a home run hitter. I was the only guy who was able to hit a home runs in my T-ball league because I was huge. And I was just way bigger than all the other kids. And I could just hit the ball way further.

And I was the only guy who could have home runs. This is a dangerous search, but I typed in four-year-olds on Google. I mean, like, look at this kid. That's a little kid. That's a baby. Yeah. You picture of you. You're a man.

You're right. That is close to, that's like a toddler. You are close to like you could be try as an adult in that picture. I mean, come on, dude. I'm not denying that I look older than four years old in that picture because I do. But my mom said four and like I said, I'm always... She's mistaken, unfortunately. You're like 5'5.

You watch your mouth when you're speaking about my mother. But I get what you're saying. I do look older in that. So I have a confession to me. Okay. And I don't really know what this means because obviously you're really young. You know what's great is that confessions on this show now? It's like it could be anything.

Anything. So it's, this is probably going to make you feel better drink because I think I know what this means. But my mom texted me after the show and said, just listen to the podcast. And by the title, I thought I was going to hear about quote, Elizabeth, unquote. And instead it was Trent, L.O.L. What the hell does that mean? Does that mean I was Elizabeth?

I think, I think that is what that means. Did you, did you send a follow up? No. No follow up. I said like, LL.L. funny show or something. I didn't get into it because I thought it'd be funnier to kind of speculate. What the hell happening to you guys? Is this normal? I have to have been Elizabeth and I just was young and don't remember. I remember one thing I do remember is I had like my little um I had like a

little like doll like that I, I slept with all the time. His name was Nathan. That was like my boy was Nathan. Okay. This Elizabeth character, I think that had to have been female rigs. I think it definitely had to be cross-dressed rigs. I mean, the only thing. that I got a text from after this show. I mean, it was, the show really went places. I mean, everyone was, like, going crazy about Trent, uh, dressed up like a little girl. And he was like eight or nine years old. We said, we put together a great teaser.

I think it was in middle school. I put together the teaser. It's a fantastic teaser. Now that one got people on Benz and my sister listened to it. She said she was crying, laughing, listening to everyone getting dressed up. But, uh, but, uh, but mine was, I said I was the backstreet boys dance. It was in sync dance. So I just wanted to clear that up.

It was the in sync dance. And they said they used to dress me in my dad's shorts as my jeans. Yeah. You know, like my dad's jeans shorts would be my jeans because it'd be like almost like the, what are those things called? The Janko jeans. Janko jeans. Jankos, yeah, Jankos. Yeah, Jankos.

Skateboarding jeans. Yes, I was like a cool little kid dancing. I wasn't getting dressed up like, you know. Yeah, no, I know you're trying to like brag about it. We didn't. These weren't our decision. No, I know. I think we turned out to be a pretty, you know, it sounds to me like if it was.

It was basically like, hey, Riggs, either we're going to tie you up in the basement and you're going to like fall and crack your head open to the sound of lightning or you can dress up and be Elizabeth. I mean, you got to do some dig on that one. I've got to figure out what that means. The last thing my sister said to me, she said, I apologize for saying that you'll end up living in a pillowcase. She said that was mean. But everything else, she was okay. Yeah, that was a ruthless line. Yeah, it was true, too.

But, you know, that's what they told me. And they would dress me up like a girl. You know what else is true, Trentetti? What's true? Supreme Golf is the best tea time app you can use. Yes, it is. It really is. You guys like that, by the way?

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You can throw that credit towards whatever you want. You go book some tea times. They get better deals, tee off. All that's under the Supreme Golf umbrella. T-off, golf now. I don't even know what other ones there are because all I use is Supreme. But if they're out there, they're just all under Spring Golf. So you don't need those other ones.

You just need Supreme, and you have access to all of them. So go to SpringGolf.com. So that's so smart. It's just smarter, man. How are they able to do that? Dude, people are wizards with technology. Just being able, like, write down code that just makes an app do that. Like, where would you even start?

But also think about this, like, you know, all these apps, like you just said, tee off and, like, guys. golf now and all this stuff like supreme golf's like i'm just going to combine them all and it's going to be my thing it's like you walking down the street with your big golf umbrella everybody's got their tiny little umbrellas and you're like my umbrella is just bigger and it can cover more that's exactly that's what they did why would you have one of those little miniature bitch boy umbrellas when you could just be really dry under my gigantic one letting golf now teat and all these apps they're doing the work too they're still pulling out teetons they're just like hey all these

apps that you're just going to put it all in one place for you that's an incredible idea. That's why they're our guys. That's why they're also, they had a great comment on Trent Daddy picture. Oh, yeah, they did. They wrote Our Sweet Prince and then in parentheses S. I saw that Dan commented or I see this in our little outline here that that we should start calling you Trent Mommy instead of Trent Daddy. How do you feel about that? I don't feel good about that at all. That was a, that was from the gallery submission. I don't feel good about that at all. Dan wrote in and said Trent Mommy, right, instead of Trent Daddy. The one person I didn't hear from over all this was my dad i think he is completely blocked it out he doesn't want to hear

about it he doesn't want to remember that it happened i he has been radio silent since this is all gone down that's understandable yeah really is another other big news in our world uh the the whitney match the myself against ryan whitney this match has been about a year in the making i was actually going back and looking at when this when this came it was august of last year so it's been like 13 months that this has been in the making uh we're playing uh october 9th it's a wednesday i think we're t off in the morning around 9 a.m. somewhere around there at Great Horse in Hampton, Mass, western Massachusetts. Awesome spot. Phenomenal private club. Golf course is delicious. I think that's actually where Delicious came from. I think it is. I put up an Instagram called

it Delicious. We had a whole debate on this show about that. Great Horse. October 9th, $10,000 cash. I get three strokes for anybody who doesn't know. Whitney is a 1.8 handicap. I'm a 6.6 right now. We did a lot of negotiations where he was calling me basically, he was really like harnessing a lot of the worst of social media to call me like a little bitch for asking for strokes. And I said, well, look, if we're trying to create like a fair match that everyone's going to be excited about, that's going to be close and create drama and then it's technically going to be a 50-50. We should use the handicap system that literally exists for this purpose.

That's why like any golfer technically could play against any other golfer. That's the beauty of it. He eventually came to the negotiation table. I think it was at Pebble that we agreed. Right. The more you talked it out, the more it just makes sense. Like, why would you ever start a match for a certain amount of money when someone is clearly at disadvantage because one player is just,

their handicap is just better. That's what the handicaps system is. It's like a good four strokes better. So it's like if we played, there's a massive chance that he's just going to shoot a lower score than I am. That's just like the numbers. That's understandable. That's a fact. I get three strokes.

That's what we settled on. I get three strokes for each bringing $10,000 cash to the table, winner take all. I told Frankie yesterday. I want Frankie as invested in this as possible. Frankie's my guy. He's on my bag. He's part of my team.

Frankie, if I win, gets $3,000. That was massive news. And I was happy to just do it for anything. Like I just for free, just to go up there and do it. And when you told me that,

I mean, now I have a financial investment that I'm going to go there and I'm going to try and get a W. That's massive. Sweet. Who needs more prep? Frankie or Riggs? It's,

you know, I will say, like Frankie knows that I pretty much in for the most part like I kind of live in my own world yeah so it's like on the course it's not like I'm gonna I'm gonna be like hey Frankie uh like Jesus take the wheel here what does this do tell me everything we're gonna consult I love talking with like my caddy or my teammate and he cough like what do you think it does here what do you think this one's playing we're gonna have all those conversations but at the end of the day I'm not like blindly gonna go up there and be like oh frankie just said it's right at the end of the day it's rigs a shot

rigs his decision and like he's gonna end up making the decision that's what we say about pGA tour guys all the time like you're in the PGA tour, you're going to blame your caddy. Like, you're the guy hitting the shot. You're hitting the shot based on the same information that the caddy had. Correct. You had the same exact information. You're the pro. Here's the second thing that I think that we're really going to have to talk about is like,

I think the biggest or most important part about my involvement is like the pre-round or like walking around the golf course making sure that we have like all the information that we need because there shouldn't be anything that like surprises us on the day of the match. Like if we get up there like early or if we like scout the golf course, like we shouldn't be like, oh, there's a fucking creek there or like, oh, the green goes this way off the back. Why did we hit it? Like, we should know everything about the, every hole. We should know everything about the hole.

Well, it's very tricky because now, like, we're, we have to call up with a game plan to do what PGA Tour pros do every week. Like, we need to get to this course. Like you said, and we need to know it, like the back of our hand. Right. So we got to figure out a way to do that. We got to, like, we got to figure out a way to maximize our time. We should contact like Dewey.

Like, how does he, like, yeah. That's a great call. How does Dewey, like, if Dewey had, if Dewey had four hours to prepare for a tournament and he had like a golf cart and an open golf course how would he look for and how would he like draw up a book like what is what are the main thing i was talking to you earlier and like we were talking like yeah let's go up like the day before we'll do a practice round where we both play it and then we'll go back around where we just like we'll take a cart and i just have like a wedge and a putter and the only reason i want to do that is because like that's what tiger does

i don't know why he does it yeah i mean i do like oh you chip around the greens that's where you save all the strokes on that but like i would just be doing it because tiger it's like my brother changed to cross-handed putting only because speed does it right he just he just puts cross-gall we also have to when we're practicing we have to put like tiger does before the match where he puts the two t's on either side he knocks in a thousand five-foot putt's well that that's a part of that's going to be tough but yeah like we'll make it the perfect distance where it like has to go in or it's impossible where i can't miss but yeah we should like i should hit five thousand like 18 inch putt yeah so yeah there's going to be a lot of preparation i'm thinking too

like, you know, we've talked about it's not a vacation, it's a golf trip. Like, we're go, go, go. We like to drink. You like to, like, maximize the time that you're at a place. Usually you end up, like, buddies with your caddies or the people from the course, you go out to the bar, you get up late. You don't have time to go to the range, all this, that. Like, for this match, I'm going to be able to wake up whenever I want.

I'm going to be like stretch and, like, hit balls and, like, what does that look like? Am I going to be, like, a new person on the first tee? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You guys are going to be nervous. There's no. Very nervous.

Yeah. There's no, like, getting around that. No. I was thinking, you know, I don't know, like, I don't know that you could find or create a situation in the world of golf where someone would be more nervous than like, we're going to be on the first tee. Because we're not. And I get the people, be like, what if you have a put to win the Masters? Well, I would argue that, like, they play competitive golf every week. And they're really good.

Like, it's hard to be that nervous when you know, like, oh, no, if I just repeat my phenomenal one of the best 20 swings on planet. earth like not that much can go wrong right for us it's like no I hit horrible shots all the time yeah we're gonna be staying on that first tier should be probably like hundreds of people there there's gonna be like Dave big cat right that's the big you've got a bunch of money on all right we like dominate social media at barcel sports and all the biggest people that work for barcel sports are going to be at this golf event going live and like like like it's like on the internet there's not many people with millions of followers Dave has like 1.2 on twitter like whatever he's got a million five on instagram if he starts going live like like no one else on twitter

is doing this or on social media is doing this in the game of golf and broadcasting like just a random match like this will be the biggest random match on the internet with two guys who have basically no experience playing live golf in front of like people for this this highest stakes like took me wrong whitney plays a decommatic competitive golf i play in fun like you know rider cup weekends of my buddies all time where like you're able to like artificially create some nerves and this and that this is going to be i mean i don't even i'm not even able to feel my body for probably like the first right i'd like any listener to try and name a non-professional, like non-celebrity, like match that's going to be as big as this

that's ever happened in the world, like social media-wise or clout-wise or like that people actually know what's happening. It's the biggest one ever. How does that make you feel? It has to be. It's very exciting. In what other world are there too? Because you know I'm a super competitive motherfucker.

Yes. Like how cool is it that like I'm going to get to be out there with everybody watching this playing for $10,000 cash? Awesome. Like live on the internet in front of millions of people or hundreds of thousands of people or whatever it is. It's insane. It's also just terrifying.

It's not going to be bad at shots I've hit. I mean, that's Frankie's got to help you through it. Yeah, it's tough, man. He's got to be a therapist. He's got to be a therapist more,

I mean, more so over than, like, have you gone through the scorecard at all at Great Horse? I've played the course twice. And you're getting three strokes. And I'm getting three strokes.

Have you looked at which holes you're getting the strokes? So here's the thing. We still have to agree on the T's because Whitney. I'm looking right now. So Whitney said he wanted to, so Whitney's doing this. He didn't know how deep it was.

Right. Whitney's doing this thing where like he's complaining that he's giving up the three strokes and he's trying to do everything he can to make it look like he's already had disadvantage. Even though we've already said this, he plays five times a week. He admits he plays 45 times a week and he's a 1.6 handicap or whatever he is. Right? 1.6. Something like that. 1.8. 1.8.

Like, so like he already has advantage. We've talked about this a million times. The handicapped system is built to make this fair. So now he's resorting to and he hits a long ball. Like Whitney just crushes the ball off the tee. That's like what he does. That's one of his strengths of his game. and now he's resorting to saying he wants to make this as long as possible because Riggs is getting an advantage of getting three strokes.

That's not how it works. Whitney, playing this much golf and knowing the game of golf should understand that you're not getting an advantage. You're just getting what's fair. I'm getting less than what's fair, which is amazing. Right. Which is fine. We agreed on it. I'm like a 6.6.6.

It's 1.8. We agreed on 3 strokes, which is quite literally an advantage for him if he was to play in any tournament. Correct. And that's fine. Now, we're debate. the only thing that's really still up for grabs is the T's. Like, what T's are we going to play? He said tipped out.

He actually was on the tips. He didn't realize it's the TIP. 76, we're not doing that. That's longer than PGA TOR. Correct. So we're obviously not doing that. He agreed. He's like, okay, I didn't know.

So he agreed to like 71, 72. I think we should play like 68, something like that. People were bitching like, oh, you're such a pussy. You won't play the tips. Do you think Kevin Kisner, if he was negotiating a one-on-one match against, like, Dustin Johnson, that he would be pushing for a 7,600-yard course? No, it's insane. Kids would be like, no, my strengths are like accuracy,

uh, wedge game, accuracy, putting. I want to like minimize your advantage with distance. Whitney hits the ball further than I do. So if we play a longer course that just gives him more of an advantage, not being a pussy about it, I'm just trying to be strategic. I got $10,000 in the line. I want to win this match. Right.

Negotiations are huge part of that. So that, that is the big thing. It has to be a negotiation because we're saying that he can't go for the 7, 7,700. He's saying we can't go for the 6,800. We have to somehow find a middle ground because like, if he, if he accepts a 68 then he's just playing to your advantage. Right. So I think we'll end up playing around seven.

That's my guess, which is fine. I can handle seven. And Great Horse usually, I mean, it'll be fall. Maybe it'll get some rain. Who knows. But usually the course plays pretty firm. Like the ball bounces. It's kind of how it's designed to be played.

The Silva, Brian Silva guy, who's the architect who kind of redid the whole place. He likes it like firm and fast. He likes like templates and all that. So that's kind of the kind of course that he built. So it won't, it'll play a little shorter, I think. But it ain't easy. It's a tough track. So how about this?

The three holes. you're going to get strokes on or par fives? So what would be like two, two, eight, and 14? I like that. That's huge. That turns pars into birdies. Right.

Because then I, like, forcing him to have to burry those holes. Right. And there's a chance like, it's not uncommon for me to birdie par five. Correct. That'd be nice, birdie nut eagle for the boys. It's all,

so here's the other thing. I've been thinking a lot about like, what do you, okay, what do I need to do to do to win? Like, what do I have to shoot to win? Frank and I talked about this a lot.

I think, like Whitney, obviously has played some really good rounds. Like when he went out, I guess to Aaron Hills, he shot like even par like a month ago, great round of golf. However, he does play a good amount of competitive golf too. So you go look at like how his scores change. And under this type of pressure, I think it's Whitney, I think, with like a good round,

he'll shoot like 77, 78. That's what I think. I've asked him this yesterday on our way to a pizza review. Not to plug that, but we did a pizza review with spit and chick that's hilarious pizza view. One of the funniest things we've ever done. Honestly, it was just mayhem. Not because Whitney was in it.

It was like Biz was talking a homeless person. R.A. stepped on a glass in the background. He was like, Ah, I was all right. Dave, like, did something he's never done

in a pizza review. It was very funny. Check that out to, uh, so this comes out Thursday because we're talking on a Wednesday. This comes out Thursday. This comes out Thursday.

Nice. So today, let's get there. Watch this today. We really talked out one out. We got there. Yeah, that was good to watch you get there.

Um, and I asked him like, Whitney, like all jokes. And he didn't even know that you were giving me the, the 30% at this point. So he didn't know how invested it was.

I got to tell you know where I came up with that number. That's a lot. And I'm actually kind of rattled that I, what I wanted to do was I wanted to get. He takes it back right now. No, no, no, not doing that. He's like, 1500. What I wanted to do was I wanted to get to the same amount that Matt Coocher paid his caddy.

I mean, I won 10 grand that I paid Matt and I paid Frankie the same because I thought it was three and I was wrong. He can't pay him five though. No, I can't give you five. That's too much. That's crazy. Then you're a dollar away from making money. I know. He, uh, he, uh, he had originally been like, I'm going to give him three.

then if I'll give a bonus for this or a bonus for this and both those bonuses I think were $1,000. So we ended up getting to like five. But it would have been sick if I could have said like, I paid my guy the same way. Right, right. But you're right. He was telling you yesterday. He told me he's going to shoot us.

He's like, I said, what are you going to like go out there and play? You know, it's going to be pressure the whole thing, like tough golf course. He's like, I'll probably shoot like a 78. That's what he said. That's kind of my guess. And when we played Spyglass, I, granted, I played well that day. And we did not have his best. And he was like, I didn't get to warm up and stretch and all this and that.

he's older, bigger body, fine. But we both shot 78 that day. Trent Danny and I won one up on the 18th. Yeah, we did. It was a great match. Fantastic. And then the next round we played, he probably beat me about 10 shots. So it's like, that can happen.

I'm very volatile out there. But he's very consistent. It's just a matter of like, I mean, I haven't seen him play much golf, but I can't imagine that he's impossible. Like, it's impossible for Whitney to shoot an 80 or an 81. I can't imagine that's impossible. No, no, no. It's not.

I mean. And so, and when you add this much pressure, you know, let's say you add three or four strokes or something like that. Like my thinking is if we can keep it around 80, I think we win this match. Yeah. And like pressure, pressure is pressure. And then there's like Dave chirping everybody. There's Big Cat chirping everybody pressure.

There's crowds. There's like that, like, certainly Whitney's never been through. And you haven't either. No. But like having Dave and Big Cat there like laughing and like making fun of all the bad shots that you guys hit, that's going to drive you guys crazy. Big time. And that's good for me, I think. Yeah.

Because I think like the more we push everybody towards like 85, that's where I live. But I live in like 83, you know, I shoot 83 all the fucking time. 82, 83, that's kind of my sweet spot. I shoot that score all the time. It's very difficult for me to like break 80. And every time you're doing that, you're not getting strokes, right? Correct. You're always giving strokes.

Right. So it's like you're kind of forcing it, this, that. You know, I know how to win golf matches. I've played a lot of golf matches. Being able to use three strokes is going to be huge. It's going to be clutch. We're going to have a bunch of cameras out there. I think Jake's telling us right now six cameras, six cameras out there.

so every hole will be filmed heavily. I think Whitney may get, like, carried away with, like, trying to be a trash talker and, like, being, like, mucking it up and laughing and all stuff, that he's going to, like, lose focus. Like, I've seen him, like, did you see in the video when he played with, like, Sidney Crosby and stuff? Like, he's, like, always just trying to chirp every single thing. Like, look at this guy.

Look at the way he was. Look at him. Like, I just feel like he thinks he's going to be in his own domain, but he's not going to realize that, like, Dave's probably going to, like, Dave loves to get Whitney rattled. Like, he's not going to understand that he's not in his, own domain. This is Dave's domain.

This is bar stool sport. Whoever Dave smells blood, that's where he'll go. So if Whitney fucks up, he'll go there. If Riggs fucks up, he'll go there.

Or if you both fuck up, he'll go in both places. But Whitney's in, like, his spit and chicklets, like, mode, he feels like he's untouchable. But, like, now he's, like, he's, like,

he's a person in our video. So, like, he can't, I just feel like he's gonna be out of, like, his comfort zone a little bit. You know what you're right? He's becoming more like, he's Grinley and Whitney's world now.

Correct. You know what I mean? The other thing I think is going to drive him crazy is that Biz is like not a golf guy. Right. Like Whitney's pretty particular about like. If Whitney bogeys the first two holes in Biz is like like, like, like, hands him like a club and joke. Totally. We should do this.

He'd like shut the fuck up. Like you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Hands on like the putter on the par three third and is like maybe go with this one or something. Like Whit, I could see Whit losing his mind or if like Biz is just standing in the wrong spot while he's trying to put something like that. So there's a lot to it. I, though. Now, having said everything that we said, the odds came out. Whitney is minus 600.

I'm plus 350. He's going to be a favorite. The guy plays a ton of golf and he's consistent. This is going to be a difficult match. There's no way around it. But it's like it's going to be competitive. I think the line is a little too much. I think you've got to love rigs at the plus $350.

Yeah, plus $350. I think you have to. Who would ever lay 600 on? That's crazy. That's one of the worst bets I think in the world. So I do like that. I like that things have come, you know, kind of come around. and that the odds, because, like, really there's no benefit to going in, like, talking yourself up that you're playing phenomenal.

It's not, what are you going to, like, intimidate the guy? The guy, like, you're already intimidated by the surroundings. You're not going to be intimidated because, like, oh, I heard Riggs is playing lights out. Like, that's not going to be a problem. So I think in terms of manipulating the odds, we're really right where we want to be all the pressures on Whitney. It is because, yes, you're the golf guy. Yes, you are on a golf podcast and, like, this is what you do. But, like, Whitney is just the one that started the trash.

talking to begin with where like you guys clearly had like this falling out that led to this match but like Whitney talks so much shit even off camera and like says like talks about your swing and all this stuff this guy golfs for a living that's what he does we talk about golf for a living but this guy legitimately all he does is wake up in golf that's what he does five days a week that's all he does that's the only thing he has to care about in the world he doesn't have to go to work he doesn't have to like get on a subway and come to work and like go do videos he goes out and he plays at country clubs and he plays a member guest and he plays in like US Open Qualifiers.

That's all he cares about. So if you were to come out here and like just dust him in a $10,000 match like that would destroy him. That's all he has. What an all time. That is all he has. I agree. He's a ton of money.

Sure. He plays great hockey. He does what we would all. His ankles broken head. Seems like a nice family he has. Yeah, great family. Yep. You know, great family.

But golf is the thing. Horrific ankles. Just the worst. The only thing that he, like, aside from his family and stuff, like, you know, he loves his family, but the only thing he really genuinely cares about, like, aside from that, like, is golf. He's obsessed with it. He's obsessed with competitive golf. He does a golf trips all the time.

He plays in the USGA four-ball qualifiers. He's at Wallace and the Fallon Cup. He's driving around a golf cart making sure people aren't cheating. He says, like, he thinks people are dropping balls, and he's psychotic when it comes to, like, the competition of golf. And this will absolutely eat at him. And he's a better guy. shopper so that is what he has to lose look point is we're trying to set the table

here a lot of us we both have a lot at stake we're playing golf in his nerve racky of as an environment as I can imagine this thing comes down to like the last three holes tied I think it's on the 15th I think with the three strokes it will like there's almost no way that it won't and the two like I said two of the strokes are like within the first

eight holes it's like that's get off to a hot start frankly because Whitney was like oh man he's like if I he's like if I get lucky and the strokes are like on 17 and 16 or 17 and 15 Like I may be able to close this thing out before that But like you get one on two You get one on eight

Like you're already two strokes ahead You're up to nothing in the first two like Right, two holes Yeah we're two up like through eight Yeah really and it's like okay Yeah no I um I think we play this thing right Play this thing smart

I think we're gonna have a hell of a match on our hands And I think Whitney does have a little bit Of a history of collapsing Yeah That's all we hear When he gets on the 18th holes He's triple bogeed and three putted To lose a walliston

the Fallon Cups. I mean, there's all these horror stories. Another thing I think about a lot is like, dude, I'm used to having horrible golf shots film on camera all the time. That's what we do. We do that all the time. Trent, take it away. That's us, babe.

That's us. You hit a bad shot on camera? Tons of them. For the whole internet and everybody to laugh at you and like how horrific this swing or that swing of that. When he doesn't have that, like the only swings he ever posts or like when fucking the mask golf association posts him like striping one down the middle on the first tee at some tournament he like retweets that every time i wonder what it's going to do to his

psyche when like he hits a he's going to hit horrible shots like when he fucking slices one off and it's like we might not find that one off the tea rigs in the middle of fairway dave's fucking running over into the feskew like oh wittney where the fuck's that one like how's he recovered when he hangs one way out right and like ball goes like obie or like hits like where he just like has a disgusting swing and dave's laughing maniacally in the background like almost like he did like when weird haircut seth couldn't throw the football And he's like, you suck Whitney And like he's just going to be like

You don't fucking know what sucks is He's gonna get so mad I can really see what he could do I can already see his like passion and like hate For like when people chirp him for hitting a bad shot It's gonna be a spectacle man It's gonna be quite the spectacle We're still working out all the details on like spectators

For the most part we're not gonna have them I think there's gonna be like family and friends I think Great Horse are gonna open it up to its members People gotta realize like logistics wise To have fans there is Like impossible You have to have you have to have have food, drink, porter potties.

Like if you have like thousands or hundreds of fans that like this private club and us and the limited time that we've had to plan all this, that, it just like it just doesn't seem like it's going to work out. If that changes, we will, of course, let people know. The plan is to broadcast it really just like we've done Mulligan Challenge. So anybody who's ever followed Dave two years in a row, Shinnock and then at Pebble and the Mulligan Challenge, you know, we have, we're going to have, I think, six cameras there so there will be a video the next day or two or three days afterwards.

That's going to recap the whole thing. It's going to capture all the shots, all the angles and all that. In real time, we're going to have Dave and Big Cat walking around with iPhones and with, like, their squad going live. I'm sure they'll go live on probably the first tee, probably like the final hole, whatever that is, if it's on 16 or on 18 or whatever it comes down to. They're going to tweet out a bunch of videos in real time. I think we're going to have like a scorecard on the website so people can go to

to barstolesports.com, check that out, see where we're at, and like follow along that. way but it will be covered in real time uh i won't be worried about any of that because we're just going to be i mean frankie and i are going to be head down someone's got to order me a um caddy outfit oh yeah you got it's got to be a white one right yeah what's it going to say in the back borelli no it's got to say rigs or like oh i love that i mean think about that yeah i'm i'm an idiot i'm not used to this bozoian yeah rigs those are kind of the options I'd say those are the top two.

I really appreciate you lay it out. What about Elizabeth? You know what I'm saying? I like that. Yeah. I like that a lot. I don't hate to be like. Riggs or Bezoian?

Man, that's tough. I think Bezoian. I think so too. Go with the last name. You got to go to last name. That's like Frankie's all in. Like no, this is like, this isn't a content bit. This is like I'm his guy.

Yeah, I think you got to go Bezoian. I think that's the play. All right. Whitney and myself. $10,000 cash. Again, someone will walk away with that on October night. That's the plan on October 9th. Hope for good weather.

That's really what we need. We need good weather that day. What is that? Two weeks from today? Yep. Oh, shit. Two weeks from today. $10,000 golf match.

That's exciting. You know what else is exciting. On average, a burglary happened every 23 seconds. I don't know that that's necessarily exciting. Yeah, it's just kind of... You know, I think it was a little bit of a swing and a miss on the transition game? I agree with that.

Well, not only was a swing of miss, I couldn't even pronounce it. You know what's exciting? getting robbed of your personal belongings. I would argue it's exciting. Well, it excites you. It's definitely like, whoa. I wish that wasn't happening, but you're definitely, there's adrenaline flow. And if that's like the definition of excitement, I don't know what it is, but it's got to be like, adrenaline has to be involved.

Excitement has taken on a positive connotation and being robbed is not positive. No. So I could see how excitement's not the perfect word, but I would argue that like it. A burglary leads to excitement. A feeling of great enthusiasm and eagerness. or something that arouses enthusiasm and eagerness, an exciting incident. Eagerness is not the word we were looking for there. You know who's probably feeling eagerness, though?

Who? The burglar. Yeah. Approximately 2 million burglaries are reported a year in the U.S. consensus or census. God, I can't speak. Too focused on this golf match. I'm focused on my swing hitting the ball. 83% of burglars admitted that they specifically look to see if there's an alarm.

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October, like, 18th, somewhere around there. So the plan is to do it before then. We've obviously got in that time, we've got the Whitney match. We have got the Barstool Classic Championship. Oh, wow. What is that? October 15th. Oh, my gosh.

I know. A lot of big events coming up. Our goal is to somehow squeeze the Kisner. The damn off season. We're just taking over golf. We are in the off season. We got event after event after event. That's crazy.

It is nuts. So we're working on the Kisner 5-hour match. I'm saying that it will happen before he leaves. That was his what he said to us. Like, hey, here's your window. He's doing, I think, Japan and China he's playing in at the end of October. So we've got to get it done before he leaves. We've been going back and forth on like negotiations.

on getting it sponsored, this, that. We're trying to figure all that crap out. That's how we get paid here. That's how we're able to do all the cool things. We've got to get stuff sponsored. So we're working on that. We'll keep you posted. And then the Frankie against Justin Thomas lefty match.

JT got melanoma, he said. So he was like bedridden for a week, which killed his lefty game. I talked to him very briefly. He said he didn't get to, he hasn't gotten to play lefty at all. And now he's back basically playing PGA tour. So that's definitely, that just got side. The hell is melanoma? He actually, he posted a photo on his Instagram, gnarly surgery.

What? To get it to get a cut and cut out. And the stitches were big time. Bad news, bears. Okay. Bad news. I actually didn't see that Instagram. So when I felt like an idiot when I hit him up was like, what's going?

How's your lefty game going? He's like, I'm like basically dead from melanoma. Holy shit. Damn. Yeah, that's a gnarly scar. Not good. Not good at all. Where is it?

I'm trying to find it. It's like the second row down. The second row down. Oh my God. There you go. Oh, man. J.T. You could beat him now.

Frankie. Yeah. I mean, he's got like, looked like he had like an alien taken out of his leg. That's crazy. So luckily he's okay. He says, like,

it's a pretty good like, like awareness thing too because he's saying like I recently went and had a scare, the dermatologist, very early stages of melanoma. Everybody should get checked. You know, these guys are always in the sun.

Skin cancer and, like, and, you know, checking these little things on your skin, your legs, your arms, like, a lot of Italians have, like, I know I have all these little, like, dots on my body. Yeah. Like, sometimes they change color. You're supposed to go right to the dermatologist. Yeah, if you're in the sun, it doesn't matter for, like, not getting sunburnt or whatever, you can still just have, like, really. You know, two most common. Stuff can happen. Two most common places people get skin cancer.

I think we had a, um, was it like a nurse or somebody emailed me? I can't remember. Uh, back of your calves, which it looks like this is where JT had. his cut out and the top of your ears. Wow. Two places people like don't put on sunscreen. Yeah. Or forget.

You know? Because you go like arms. You go like face and neck and all that. You forget to go to the top of your ears. And then you do like your legs. Like a lot of people do like the front and they just don't remember to like rub it all back in on the back of their legs. Yeah.

So nice and a little awareness part of this podcast here. All right. Thanks of course to JT and his post. So long story short, I think the JT. Lefty match is significantly less important than this situation. He seems to be okay, which is great news. We'll keep you posted on that situation. Tiger is scared if we're going to be honest, but it's okay.

I'm just kidding. You got melanoma. You had to sneak that in, eh? Yeah. You keep the juice flowing. If he hears that, maybe he's like, oh, I'm going to beat. I don't think he gives a fuck. No, I don't think he does either.

But you never know. I keep thinking about my first T-shot in that match. Wow, that's not good. You got to get that out of your head right now. You know what I'm thinking about how... It's a regular T-shot. Think about how nerve-racking it was at the Bethpage. It's going to be 10 times that.

So nerve-wracking. It's nothing. But you pipe there, right? Yeah, it had a good one. Yeah. Good little draw on the left rough. You'll be fine. Hit it on the green two putted.

See you later. You'll be fine. Yep. Nothing to it. Once you're off that first day, it's just same old sport. It's golf. Yeah. Just playing golf.

We're on the course now. Golfing. The round has begun. We are golfing. Just say that to Frankie after you hit you drive. Stop doing that. You have to stop hitting things. What's with you hit and stuff?

I don't know. I don't think it's like that big of a deal. hear that? I mean, he's just smacking his laptop. Doing this in the middle of the show. I'm doing. I mean, you're always typing during the show. I do it so low. Oh, no, you're always. You got, you're kidding.

I don't have, no, I do it consciously. It's like I'm writing, uh, with a feather and ink. I, I, I, I, it's like I'm tickling the ivories and I'm playing like a really soft piano. I literally put all my fingers on the keyboard and I touch one key at a time. I'm sorry. Don't call me out because I consciously do that. I was, yeah, I was.

doesn't even accomplish anything. I just like my hands are just like they're moving. I'm sorry. Sorry for the listeners if that was annoying to you. I'm just going to hold my hands together like this and I'm not going to touch anything else. Are you okay, Trentetti, all right? I'm great. You're settled?

Yeah. Yeah. Let's move on to a couple headlines of the Skins game with Tiger Rory, Jason Day, Hideki Matsuyama, October 21st over in Japan. So they've been putting out a couple promos. The last one was like a group text promo that they put out. It's actually very funny. Yeah. I thought for like these types of things.

It's always tough It's always tough It's almost I would say nine out of ten times It's a swing and a miss Yeah nine out of ten times Almost not worth doing Correct

And it's corny And it's cheesy and this and that There's a certain aspect to that But I actually thought it was very well done They were kind of roasting each other It was done quick paste They had a couple Like ruthless chirps

One of them They were chirping Somebody like chirp Rory About like the time zone thing Obviously that's from the 2012 Rider Cup when he missed his tea time They were throwing gifts in there. The guys were responding with some gifts.

So it was pretty funny. Skins game. Look, we talked about it last year with the match, the Tiger Phil match, of people like, oh, you're going to watch. Do you really care about this and that? I pay 20 bucks to watch Tiger Woods to buy groceries. Said that last year. That was one of our big lines and we stuck to it. I'd pay way more than that.

If you said, I'm going to put a live camera, Tiger is going to you for a half hour, go to, you know, stop and shop and walk around and decide what to throw in his cart and then pack it into his car and pay and leave, I would pay like 20 or 40 bucks to watch that. There's no doubt about it. Easily. Yeah. About it.

So now you're telling me Tiger Woods, Rory, Jason Day, Hideki Matsia, we're going to play the Skins game. I'd pay $45 to see how many marshmallows Tiger Woods can fit inside his mouth. What's a guess? What do you think? What's that game called? Chubby Bunny.

Is it called Chubby Bunny? Have you guys ever played that game? Is that what little girl? Charlie Trent used to play when he was... Let's play chubby bunny. Elizabeth likes that game, too. You get jumbo marshal. I think I could maybe...

I hope I'm correcting this. But you take giant marshmallows and you see how many you can stick in your mouth while also being able to say chubby bunny. Toby bunny. Yeah. So it gets progressively harder, obviously, the more marshmallows.

Sounds dangerous. Probably is, but we used to play that game as a kid. How many people do you think have died playing that game? A lot. Has to be, right? I don't know if it's a lot. At least one would be a lot. It's an epidemic.

This was like viral internet trends before they existed. Like if Chubby Bunny happened now, it would be like a thing on the internet. All right. So what do you think the world record for marshmallows in a mouth is? I'm going to say, I'm going to say 41. Whoa. Holy fuck. 19.

41. What is wrong with you? Not everybody's a big baby. The answer is 44. Oh. Holy shit. I just couldn't believe you said 44. 41.

This is like the other day when you tried to say something to us. What was it? And you're like, oh, you asked us how old, what's his name was? You asked us how old someone was? Oh, Danny Willett. You're like, how old is Danny Willett?

We're like, I don't know, like 30, like two. And you're like, fuck, I think you guys were going to say. Like, whatever. You thought we're going to be way off. I'm a man who has played chubby bunny. Well, yours affected. Frankie's reaction to yours affected, my guess. Dan Smart sets a new world record with 13 chubby bunnies on his mouth.

That's what it is. I thought, I thought chubby bunny. I thought that was like a thing people all knew about. Jake obviously knew. Dude, I feel like, I don't know what just happened. You ever, like, your brain ever just, like, forget where you are? Yeah. I just had that, man.

I forgot we were on a show. I'm looking at this video of a kid shoving marshmallows in his mouth. And, like, my brain just told me, like, you're on a golf podcast right now. Like, you're telling me you left and then came back. Yes, I swear to God I did. So you just joined the show. Like, a stream of consciousness hit me. Like, it was, like, very quickly, it left and came back.

scary stuff welcome back you had an out of body experience just sitting there doing the podcast Jake it would Jake Jake's just laughing and something

probably watching chubby bunny videos He's got to me he's giggling like a psychopath Those two Two lovely ladies are playing Chubby bunny Those are tiny marshmallows

They make them look tiny Are you kidding me Come on, Tracy Yeah Those were regular size Those were regular size marshmallows. No, they weren't.

Those were tiny. Those had to be marshmallow minis. Those are marshmallow minis. Anyway, I'd pay $45 to watch Tiger play that game. Me too. I mean, easily. Chubby Bunny. Point is, we're going to watch the skins game.

I think it's October 21st. It's in Japan. Anytime, I'm sure they'll be miced up a little time. I don't look at all details. I'm sure they'll be miced up and all that. Yeah, something to learn from the last one, you know? Like, this is not the first time they're doing it. Like, now it's got to be a better production.

you'd think so you'd think you would think so so uh so check that out if you haven't i'm sure they'll have more promos and whatnot coming out tiger woods playing golf or i'macloid playing golf i like that and then they're adding jason day who is one of our more um peculiar it's preplexing day it doesn't make any sense jason day for those who don't know the back story about two years ago he was asked at the at t-n t pebble beach proam maybe a year and a half ago in his press conference they're just like oh what does golf need to do to like you know, continue to grow and be popular and all this thing. And he went on like a minute and a half kind of monologue about Barstool Sports.

It was totally unsolicited. We've never talked to him before. Nothing. And he for like a minute and a half just talked about how Barstool is great, how Barstool, like, you know, they cover things differently. They make people laugh. They can attract a younger audience. Yes.

It was like a big part of it. Of course, part of our intro to our show now. And then that's where the line says, where he said he called us absolutely. stupid but quite funny and amusing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he called Barstall Sports. You would think that would just blow open the door for him to walk into Barstall and be like, hey, let's do an interview.

And it just hasn't happened. And then at the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach, I locked eyes with him. He took a step towards me. Like, do you want to ask me to come over and maybe do a quick video with you? And then I just shut down immediately, didn't say a word to him. He just kept walking by. And then that was that. So we have a weird relationship with him where, like, he went out of his way to talk

about how great Barstual Sports is, how much he loves. I've heard from inside sources who walk by him at tournaments and stuff in the player dining and they're like, oh yeah, he's on the Barstville app like every time I walk by him. Yet we, you know, we make eye contact. We try to be present. We try to be unavoidable at these tournaments.

We're on the range of the U.S. Open, the PGA, and we just haven't been able to get anything with Jason Day. Regardless, he is in the Skins game. And then Hedekhi Matsiyama, who I love Hedeky Matsuyama, but again, he doesn't speak a ton of English, so it's hard to really relate to the guy. But he'll be out there. It's in his home country.

So there's a lot of cool shit going on. Rory and his dad had a great moment on the first T. I think that was at the old course, right? It looks like it was at the old course. The first T at the old course in the proam where they're trying to figure out strokes, not all that different from myself and Ryan Whitney, where they're trying to figure out strokes on the T. Rory's chirp and his dad being like, well, I'll give you four side,

but like four side was clearly too much yesterday. I'm a little surprised by that. That four side wasn't like that was too much for Rory's dad. Is his dad just sick? I think he is. I think he's like a strong. scratch golfer. I mean, I guess it makes sense.

It could be surprising for someone. She's just 74 and he's getting eight strokes. Well, then he followed that up with, well, with me beating you twice a real shatter your confidence, kind of just like, hey kid, like, I still got you when I want. Oh man, still got it. Just to let you know. Because he doesn't, it's not like his dad doesn't look like the most, like, athletic in shape guy of all time.

It's not like he's a slob, but like he's not walking out there being like, oh, this guy, okay, okay, this guy can play. It's kind of stunning. and then he only gives Rory He's only getting eight shots from Rory, four a side, and he beat him the day before, and Rory's kind of like standing on the TV and like, oh, my God, I'm going to give you a four side again.

Pretty stunning, to be stunning. Pretty stunning. But then again, I guess, like in order for your offspring to be Rory Macquarie and all, like the natural athletic ability he has in golf, I guess it has to come from somewhere. Stats got a great swing. Smooth.

I didn't see it on there. Smooth criminal. Yeah, here. So I saw Rory's. Here we go. There we go. Oh, that is smooth. Smooth.

Real nice. You think they're playing the same T's? Yeah. Well, I guess this is a combo. I mean, I know there, because on the first T, it's like everything's pretty tight. Yeah, I think they play the same T's, yes. It's amazing. He's only given four.

That is amazing. Because Rory's one of the longest hitters in the world. Ever. Maybe the best driver of the golf ball all around of all time. How nice does that got to be? Everything's just kind of worked out for Rory. Like him and his dad, their best buddies. I got four majors.

I'm one of the best golfers in the world. Let's go play the old course. That seems nice. Yeah, and we talked about it a bunch, but Rory seems like one of the more genuine stars in the history of golf. Absolutely. You know, he's like, he speaks his mind.

He's flawed at times, but doesn't seem to care. He doesn't seem to be too cautious about it. He had the incident at wherever that was in Florida where he threw his club in the water. That was a great one. Remember that? Dural. Was that Doreau?

Yeah. Where he just tomahawked it into the pond. Just a great moment. Oh, an all-time moment. So, Roy does. he seems very candid. He's always been that way with the media, with other players.

Anytime he's captured on, like, Hot Mike, he's usually making, like, a nice little wisecrack and kind of laughing. He's got his little smile. He's had all the comments before about how, like, he would never want to be Tiger Woods. He would way rather be Roy McElroy,

who gets to do his own thing. He likes to spend time with the wife and, like, and, like, eat in and hang out and watch TV, and that's just who he is. So, Roy's always been kind of a lovable now. He's a superstar who comes off as, like, relatable and nice,

which is a very, very difficult thing to do it. Imagine you went and got to put a pie. with Rory, you'd be like, that guy is the fucking man. And you can imagine that. Like, you can imagine doing that. That sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, it does.

I'm trying to think. Still with us, Frankie? Yeah, I'm trying to think of. You grabbed your face like, man. I thought maybe you were outside the podcast studio again. Rory gave me two strokes a hole. Would I beat him? Yes.

Yeah. Of course you would. Yeah. 36 strokes. Yeah. I mean, I, like, I have to shoot, like, you know, what if I shoot 100? If you're not going to be a close match It's a fucking

It's like the old course Like I mean I shouldn't shoot 100 No no you wouldn't shoot 100 of the old course You would shoot you shoot around 90 I think So you'd dust them Yeah Yeah Now if he gave you like

20 5 You know now you're talking like Because you shoot 90 He shoots like 65 When you guys are just talking I was just set up all the matches Like how much different

With the first TV Like right now I'm watching this video As you guys are talking It's so nice and like four on the front, four on the back. Like, oh, that's too much much, isn't it? Like, the whole, like, I ever singing.

I'm like, how much different would it be if Roar is just like, I'll give you 25 strokes and I'm going to fucking beat you? Like, the difference between him and his pops, like him and Papa and me, like, walking up there. Papa, Mama. Be like, Rory, like, let's do this. Like, no, like, I'll give you 25. And, like, let's see if that's, like, if that works. Tomorrow maybe 30.

Yeah. 25 would be a good match, I think. Yeah. Because you start shooting low 90s. That means he's in the high 60s. Like, you got a good match. But I think, honestly, the old course, I think that course would suit your game well. Right.

And Lurch said that too, like that, that style of golf. I think that would suit your game well. You put from almost everywhere off the game. Pudding off the green is huge. So I think you'd make a lot of pretty easy bogies, and that would be tough to beat, given like 20-something shots. I think you, I think the old course you'd break 90, Frankie. I really do. Yeah, I'd love to try that out one day.

That's my guess. I thought you were going to give your Irish Shacks on a go there. I can't. Okay. Oh, lucky charge. Oh, yeah, 25 strokes. The fact that you do the warm-up everything. You got to do the runoff.

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So this is a pretty funny exchange right now with my friends. You know, I have my laptop up here. We're doing the show. And I got a text message. And I don't know if you saw this popping up on my screen. I did. I wanted to bring it up, but I didn't know if, like, if there's something going on that I didn't. I have pictures of, like, a tooth and, like, a dental flap.

Like these, I'm trying to figure out why there's a tooth in, like, a picture of a tooth inside this group chat. So I'm going through. And did I ever tell you guys, like, did we ever talk about ever punching someone? Yeah. We did that. You punched that one guy that one time. punched the one guy on the side. After he shoved your friend.

He punched my friend, knocked his tooth out. Yeah, that's your only fight. My only fight ever. So this was when we were fucking like 17 years old, right? We're now 26, right? And this kid is still ailing from that one punch at this fucking bar. What you mean ailing? He can't get his toothpicks.

Like he's had fake. So this kid knocked his tooth out at a bar, right? At Bedrock in Uniondale, New York, outside the Nassau Coliseum. Yeah. And ever since then, it's been how many. years now? Nine? Nine years?

This kid, Robbie, just can't figure out how to get this tooth to stay. He's had fake teeth. He's had fillers. So, you know, we're all going out to dinner tonight. We have a couple friends that we haven't seen in a while. They're all going to come in. I'm like, Robbie, coming to there. And he goes, if this tooth stays in.

And I said, now what the fuck does that mean? He goes, I'm one bite away from this thing popping out. Right? So, like, what is happening? He's like, I'm on the phone with insurance. This thing's wobbling, like, crazy. He's like, I think I got to get this dental flipper. tooth where like it basically goes in the top of your mouth and then one tooth sticks in.

Oh yeah. While they build bone for the tooth to now get like an official filler or official fake tooth. Yeah. So this guy's just, he's all in place. And we're talking about like if his tooth pops out. So three or four messages go by and he's like, I can't believe this is the shit I have to deal with. And all of a sudden he messages. He goes, and it's out.

He goes, no way. He goes, first bite of the day, fuck me. We're like, Jesus Christ, get a new dentist, like, figuring the shit out. One of my friends says, your mouth is an anomaly. He goes, one damn punch, man. He goes, if this kid only knew. He goes, it never ends. So we're sitting here.

We have a great life of parcel, man. We're talking about, you know, doing golf matches against Whitney for 10,000. My friend, Rob, is currently walking to Dwayne Reed to get tooth glue so that he can stick a tooth inside his mouth while he sits in his cubicle. and does data all day. And he says, I deserve one swing at this kid. Just one full shot for all the fucking misery and despair. He's caused to my mouth. So he's not coming to dinner night because his tooth fell out.

His tooth just won't stay in, man. Imagine punching someone that was going to cause them nine years of just, like, bullshit. It's his front tooth. You could sue that guy and get all these damages, like, get all this money, or they're like, or you get to punch him one time. It's like, I'll punch him one time. You have to.

You've got to try to clock and write that same tooth. the mouth. Yep. I love that. I love that like, you are you coming to dinner and out? He's like, boy, I got to see if this tooth is going to behave. First bite of his lunch just popped right out, stayed in the Tunis Day. Damn.

Every day he's got to just wake up and be like, I don't know how we're going to see what my tooth is doing. I mean, that would drive me insane. How's my tooth acting up today. It's just so funny. I was sorry to sidetrack. It's just I couldn't. I was laughing sitting here being like, I can't believe this kid. Best of luck to Rob.

You know, the only fight I've ever been in was with our goalie. I tell you guys that stuff. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah. Junior hockey. It was, we do a rookie vet game every Monday, and I was on the rookie team, and he was on the vet team. Losing team had to bag skate for like 30 minutes.

It got really intense. He was like hacking me a little bit in front of the net, which is fine. And then one time I just decided to run him because I was so pissed off at him. I just ran him. In hockey, that's just, you just go full speed. Sometimes he got to run him. You just bury him. And he got up, ripped his helmet off, ripped his, you know, his blocker and glove off.

And we just started going. He's like probably four or five inches taller than I am. But he's skinny. skinny goalie and and I had neither I mean I had no idea what I was doing fighting I mean but in junior hockey people fight a decent amount so you watch people fight but it was like we just grabbed each other's jerseys and we were just swinging because there's like a pull method to hockey there's a pull and there's like a push away there's a push and a pull and you can grab and like you can twist up his jersey to where it won't allow his his punching arm so there's a lot of that

involved too but if you get too focused on that and you lose his arm he might just clock you yeah and he got me a couple times in the side of like the top of the head I had to couple bruises, but nothing in like the face. That's huge. I didn't really clock him at all either. I definitely would have been cool to be a hockey player with like a tooth knocked out. It's different if you're like Rob sitting at like a data center or whatever the hell he's doing, like with your teeth just falling out inside your ham sandwiches at the age of 26.

And then also like being a hockey player, if you walk around, like some of these hockey players walk around just no teeth. I had two black eyes one time. That's pretty cool. I got, uh, it was embarrassing. I was, uh, sitting on the bench, standing on the bench. And we were, uh, we had like a defensive zone face off standing on the bench, leaning, leaning over talking to my boys and in juniors you wear a half shield you don't wear a cage and fucking our guy wins the face off back it was a penalty kill wins a face off back and our defenseman

just uh just clap or slap shot all the way down the eyes trying to clear it hit me right right in my face shield like right at the bottom of it and knocked my face shield into my nose i was leaking everywhere and both my both my eyes were black for like a week yeah yeah as black eyes go you want one i don't think you want two you want one i mean it looks like i was in a fight two i mean it was like i was in a fight two eyes. I got my ass. Two black guys looked like you got no surge or something. Yeah.

It looked like I basically got into a fight with somebody, but I was asleep the whole time. Right. Two black guys, it's like, dude, put your arms up. Put your hands up. Put your hands up. Mix it some hands. What are you?

Onus? Yeah. So, and then I had a cut, like right between out here. So I had the butterflies holding the cut together. Two black. I was a mess. Oh, man. Yeah, I looked ridiculous.

Rider Cup. I just want to, Rider Cup is one year from now. This week next year will be the Rider Cup at Whistling Straits in Wisconsin. We'll, of course, be there. We're tied with the PJ of America. A lot of them, they love us. Rider Cup at Whistling Straits, you know, Rider Cup's interesting because we were so fired up this time of year last year for the

Rider Cup. Tiger had just won, like, a day before at the Tour Championship. We're going to go to France. And then, like, the Ryder Cup was so disappointing that it's almost, it's almost like hard to get his jacked up for it as you should be now we're obviously a year out and what's more president's cup and it's that but it is weird how much the rider cup has changed kind of in my mind from how jacked up we were we're going to go on this tear we got all these young guys like j t t t t

tiger's playing it well like brooks kebka t jay we're going to fucking dominate these guys and then we just got steamrolled and never had any momentum last year we wouldn't mullinari but now we're on home soil and we're going to get we're going to get it back it's going to be a scene sheboygan wisconsin sheboigan so if you were to take the weather this week it's 74, 67, 66, 60, 62, and rain three of the days. So it could be-sha-boygan. Could be kind of fucking, like, dicey out there. A high of 60 with some rain in, like, bum-fuck, Wisconsin.

That warms my Midwest bones here in that weather. Yeah, that's what you just want to get into a polka-dotted skirt, you know? You just want to get in a dress. You want to put your gloves on it. It's a blouse. I want to get that handbag. I want to put some accessories in there. I just want to get it.

Man, once it hits 60, you just want to correct. Rest those lips are some lipstick. Yeah. Put some tights on. I love it. Yeah. I love it. That's smart.

That's me. Dress guy. Yeah. Yeah, it's a dress. Is it? It was kind of a blouse skirt. Like, yeah. I don't know.

You have to ask Elizabeth. We got to learn more about Elizabeth. I know my mom will listen to the show tomorrow morning when it comes out and she will call me and be like, I have to tell you about Elizabeth. And the next show I will relay the information. Can't wait. Speaking of lipstick, I got a funny meme sent to me the other day. Did we understand. lipstick? I was just talking about

Trent wearing lipstick. Gotcha. Did you hear Julie Andrews no longer endorses cheap lipstick? It crumbles easily and makes her breath smell. She explained, the super color fragile lipstick gives me halitosis. Do you get it? Yeah, I get it. You get it?

Yeah. Like, so Julie Andrews is from Mary Poppins and supercalifragilistic XBelida. Okay. The super color fragile lipstick gives me halitosis. I thought that was funny. I thought was funny. That's like, you know, you were like my dad just now. I thought that maybe someone listening to the podcast with.

Have you seen this hilarious thing I saw on the internet? You saw this May May. Me, I thought maybe someone would be like, Me too, you know. If one person repeats that joke, it was worth it.

I think they will? I'm a big repeat the joke guy. Oh, if it, if it takes on a life of its own is like, I got to tell it to other people. Yeah. Other people that you tell to.

My dad's a biggie. Here's a joke. He retells it the next day to someone. Like it's his own. Oh, yeah. You got to own it. Yeah. Are you a joke guy?

I'm a big joke tell me. I am a big joke guy. My dad's a big joke guy. Oh, yeah. That's not surprising. Yeah, he is. That's not surprising. I don't know if I've ever seen him and not how to tell me a joke right now for you, but you already all know the joke.

The Cherry Valley joke? We have to wait for Lurch. We're going to do it to Lurch. So everyone listening right now, there is going to be a joke told the next time Lurch is in studio. And these two guys, actually, all three of us know, because I'm going to be telling the joke. You know, otherwise you wouldn't be telling me. But the goal of this joke is to get Lurch to fall for it. I watched you do the joke to a couple of guys in the office.

And they fell for it. They fell for it. And it's very good. The guy we first heard it at Cherry Valley, the bartender did it to us. And it's very funny. We'll do it to Lurch next time he's in the studio. He'll fall for it. What a big dumb idiot he is. Oh, yeah.

There's no way he doesn't fall in. No doubt that he's going to fall for. He's in like Amsterdam right now. Yeah, that's true. He might never return. I've seen Lurch in like months, I feel like. Your apartment probably gets like no foot traction. Like, I feel like you're always gone or he's always gone.

It is such a waste of money that we pay for that fucking thing. Yeah. We should just get hotel rooms. Yeah, or like bum it on people's couches. Yeah. Like you guys would save a ton of money because you're never there. It's a fact. Refinancing your credit card balances can lower your interest rate and save you money.

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We'll take a couple really quickly because we're going long. It's been a long show. Luke says me and my brother had an argument kind of started by debating Roy versus Brooks. Would you rather win the PGA championship or the FedEx Cup? I say FedEx because the payout is so much higher. 15 million versus 2 million. But he says a major is a major. For me, I would take any other major over the FedEx.

but the PGA seems like the least prestigious. I would say PGA championship. Especially having been there at Bethpage this year. Imagine winning that tournament, how much cool where that is than winning the fucking FedEx Cup. Yeah, it's still, despite it being the fourth most sought after major, being there did change my opinion of it as well. Like, it's a fucking major.

I agree. Had you asked me that like a year ago or even like, because in St. Louis, it was pretty awesome too. Belreve isn't like as revered of a chorus as Bethpage Black, But that Beth Page Black, that PGA championship, like us being inside the ropes with Brooks Kebka, him like fist pumping us a couple times and feeling those vibes like Speed was in the mix. DJ making the run. Like that was a fucking major championship. I think the DJ run really solidified it.

Me too. That's a good one to win for Brooks. In this hypothetical or this question, like what would you rather win? Is it us? Like, do we like get a chance to play in one major and win it? Like so because it's obviously FedEx Cup then because you win 15. million dollars if it's like you play one tournament hypothetically and then you're done yes it's it's probably

the fedex cup right but I guess I would interpret it as like no you're good enough to do either right what if you're like a low on the totem pole golf or on the pGA tour you don't know if you're ever going to get to the top again do you want like one major to be like this is like this is what I did with my career do you want to be like I fucking won the fedex cup one 15 million probably fedex cut yeah yeah which is interesting because it goes kind of to like what rory was saying before he won it where he was like you know like these

tournaments, the ones that we care about the most are because of the prestige and how they've built that up. It's not because you just throw money at something and this, that. Yet here people are being like, would you rather win this FedEx Cup or a major championship? I think the only time you pick PGA championship is when you're at a point where winning majors matters, like ranking yourself amongst the greats of golf, right? Like do you have five majors, seven majors, eight majors. Like, I think anyone would take the $15 million at that point.

It's almost impossible not to. Right. Right? Because I was trying to justify my head. Like, no, you get this. You kind of get this, like, perceived value from winning a major championship because your brand grows. You're bigger in the game of golf. You can get gigs afterwards because you're known as, like, a major champion.

You can get gigs, like, appearances in this and that because you're known as a major champion. Your endorsement deals are significantly higher because you're a major champion. I don't know if it adds up to a fucking $13 million difference. Right. You know? Yeah, I'd say it probably doesn't. But, like, if you Brooks and Rory, I think you'd rather would just want. the PGA championship.

Yes. If you're at that level. Definitely. If you're at that level. And you're making the money anyway. It's interesting. I wonder how much of that money of that 15 million because Kiz was telling us with the FedEx Cup prize money that he gets that like that like so if he won like what did Kiz win like a little

over 800 grand I think. Yeah. So he said like 400 of that the PGA tour puts away in like an IRA. Yeah. Retirement fund. So he was like which he's like, no, I like that because it's not taxed. And then it's just worth way more money. Right.

I retire and all that. I wonder how much of that $15 million that Roy wins. Is it like half you think? Is it more? He probably just like put the whole thing in there. Totally. I don't need to touch it. Put it all in there.

Yeah, like I don't want. I wore a Nike hat today. It's literally paying for like the $15 million anyway. Easily. It doesn't matter. Easily. Evan. Evan says I have a question about my office golf day that is being held soon.

As a youngster guy of the office and a recreational golfer on my best day, this can be a stressful day as the office has plenty of experienced golfers, aka he's a little intimidated out there. Do you guys have any tips for an inexperienced, golfer such as and he goes on to say like how to act when arriving to the course dues and don'ts on the course common mistakes and golf the corn blah blah blah my biggest thing I would say is play quickly no there's nothing worse than like anybody can tell if you're not that experience you don't play a ton of golf nobody really cares if you're out there you don't

really care about that if somebody stands on that first tee and then they go stand next their ball and they take like seven practice swings that are all horrible and then hit a horrible shot you're like dude what are you doing you're not going to hit the ball anyway just go correct you got what you got. So what I would say is like minimize the practice swings, step up and hit it, keep a positive attitude out there and nobody will give a shit. And don't try to do too much because when you try and do too much, you're going to start hitting the ball

further in the wrong spots. If you're like on a houseline golf course, like don't try and fucking hit a ball over the tree. Just like punch it out into the fair way. Like do like as minimal as you can. Don't try to be a hero because you're going to end up slice someone into someone's fucking living room. Keep it simple. Keep it simple. Keep it simple. That's one of the most go-to things and play quickly.

You do that, man. Everybody's going to have a good. Positive attitude, you're good. You're golden. Positive attitude, you keep the pace of playing. So hard to have a positive attitude. When you're playing a horrible golf. He's like, yeah.

This is awesome. Woo! Golf day in office! All right. Wow. I look like an idiot out here. A bad day out here is definitely better than a good day in the office. Yeah.

Dropping those jokes. But in real life, you just like want to slam your club on the ground and like fucking bend it in half because the sports stinks. It just gets in your head. We've all been there so many times. It's just so. I can't tell you. I've told you on the golf course

I hate the game of golf. Yeah. This fucking sport sucks. We're doing this right back out there. We're doing this for fun. Yeah. We were just right back out there in the middle of it. I've bladed so many wedged with a green like,

what am I doing? What did somebody say? What was the story? Somebody's like, we paid for this. We paid to do this. I forget that story. One of us told us.

Somebody told us. But that just shows how much fun it is, is that it can bring you down to the depths of like cursing the sport out and you still love it. And you like go back and you pay for it again. Yeah. I can't tell how many times I've said out loud, this isn't fun. I've stopped having fun.

This is, we are not having fun. No. What we're doing right now, what we're doing right now. You're always like on a team sport. I feel like, you know, you're playing baseball.

And like when you lose, like, you all like share that together. When you don't do well in golf, it's all on you. It's because you suck. It's because you didn't do it right. No one's defeating you.

Like someone's not throwing pitches so well that you can't hit the ball. It's like, no, the golf ball. It's just sitting there. It's so frustrating, you just have to, like, hit it straight that way.

It does. It just sits there. It taunts you. It laughs at you. It's like, I'm going to be here every day, and I'm going to be in the same spot. Like, you got to do,

like, you got to figure it out. That ball's looking at you like, hey, this is on you, buddy. This ain't on me. Like, I'm going to be here tomorrow. I'm going to be here the next shot. There's no curve ball.

I won't be moving. No. It just sits there. Yeah. It's like, do your worst. The golf course is saying the same. thing. I've just been laying

here for decades. Yeah, it's not like the bunker moves. That water's been there for 40 years. You didn't have to hit it there. Like what? You didn't know it was there. That's true. We have hit it into water that's been there for decades. It's like, oh, you didn't know it's going to be there? Like, I know, I just don't

I can't control the ball. I legit, I wanted so badly to not hit it in there, and I just had to hit it in there. I knew that with bunkers constantly. I'm like, I want to avoid that as much as I can, so I'm going to do everything I can and it just goes in there. It is there. knew it was there. You're like, no, I have to like, see this little tool in my hand, this fucking club

that's like perfectly designed for someone as bad as me at golf? I have to like bring this thing behind me and then deliver it to the golf ball and have that ball spin in a way that it just misses all that bad shit. How am I going to do that? How the fuck am I going to do that? It's fucked up, man. What a stupid ass game. What a fucking stupid game.

And with that, we're done. We're done here. We will be back, of course, on Tuesday. Lurch, I think we'll be back. I think he'll be back. We have to try that joke. I have to remember. We got to do it.

We got to hit him with the joke. The fans, you guys are going to love the joke. It's an all-timer. So stick around for that. Everybody have a lovely weekend. Enjoy yourselves out there. We'll be back on Tuesday. Hit it hard.

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