Fore Play - Rory Time and Thank You Season

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

We hung out with Rory McIlroy last week. It was awesome. The TaylorMade shoot in Florida gave us time with Rory, Morikawa, DJ, Sergio, Wolff and many others. We detail those experiences. Plus we discuss the merch sales and how much our listeners’ support means to us. Then we get into Tiger updates, real vs fake Christmas trees, Saudi tournaments, the legend Lee Elder passing away at 87 and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, presented by Barstool Sports. We got almost the whole gang as myself, Trent Frankie, Lurch, I believe is joining a little bit. He's got his other gig going on. Jake Bass. Our lovely Jake Bass is out for the week on vacation. So I hope he's enjoying himself.

We got Brendan Jones. We got Garrett. We got the whole gang helping us out, minus those two. So not the whole gang. But anyways, we're back. it's Cyber Monday as we're recording so we're giddy we're slinging merch we got such cool items we got printed pillows

we got comfort or printed hoodies we got comfort hoodies we got all kinds of good shit going on if you're listening to this you already missed out on 20% off but a huge thank you to everybody that did buy because tons of people supported us it's kind of crazy really like Thanksgiving makes you think all the time about what you're thankful for I saw

all those posts and the fact that people so many people buy so much of our merchandise it's pretty crazy considering where this whole thing started but we got a lot to get to and we are very thankful aren't we gentlemen everybody have a good thanksgiving fantastic thanksgiving and yes i want to echo what you're saying there rigs it's amazing when you think about barstool each franchise is almost we are a small business right so like by our fans that listen to us and our listeners that listen to us to us talk about the fucking dumbest

shit on the planet yep and the universe they actually are helping in the universe our brand um you know grow. That's how we're going to grow is by seeing the people that actually listen to our stuff and they watch our videos, they are supporting us one by one. And that's the only reason we're able to do what we get to do. And it makes you think like we have to, it makes me want to do more, like more videos and more podcasts because like they're helping us move forward in life and and move forward in our business. This is our business. Foreplay is our business. And without those people buying the merchandise and buying our cool stuff, we don't get anywhere. We don't do anything. We just become a failed podcast that just gets thrown to the rafters and you never get to

do anything ever again. Right. And merch is very important. Everything is important, but merch is just direct-to-consumer. And you'll see it with the Dave stuff. Dave talks about it all the time. And his whole entire promotion this year during Black Friday was that our fans, the Stoly's of the world, they're the ones that are going to keep us alive and keep the lights on. At the end of the day, like the advertising is unbelievable. We love our partners and they're always going to go on, but the stooleys are the heart of it. The stooleys are where,

it's where our business thrives from. It's the actual people. Right. If you want, oh, go ahead. Well, just like Dave saying, if people haven't seen, you know, Dave's stuff like if we get into it with Jeff Shackerford

or the PGA tour or the USGA or who the fuck ever we get into it with, what allows us to say and do whatever we think we should do with this little gig that we have here and the way that we want to cover golf, it allows us to not be beholden to anyone else. Anyone else is when you guys out there are listeners buy merchandise because we could basically be self-sufficient. We could be self-reliant and none of that would be possible without all the folks out there listening who buy our merchandise again

because it allows us to just be pure, real, raw, do and say whatever the fuck we want. And if we do do that and you guys continue to support us, this will never change and it will never be filtered because we could just, kind of do and say whatever we like now like we said earlier like our partners that have come with us sponsored us stuck with us for a long time owens is one of them which i'm holding right here which we're going to get to um they're absolutely incredible um but no matter what happened with them if we continue to sling merchandise as we as we have which we take very seriously by the way we love merch every pro shop we go into we buy merch so we actually have a really fun time creating really cool items goodies everything but the more and more people buy it the more allows us to basically frankly

just be us and not give a fuck what anybody else thinks. And it makes mommy and daddy happy. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I'm talking business. It makes Erica and Dave see that. Like, we're doing something over here. And you, the listeners, are helping that happen. You are part of this story.

You're part of this journey. Absolutely. Like, without that, we are not for place. So, like, we're all collectively one big family. You guys are helping. We're putting out this merch. We're putting our necks on the line by putting out a lot of, like, really expensive. And we put it, we have a ton of inventory.

This is a huge risk that we're taking on doing Peter Malar stuff and all these hoodies and all these hats. And we're like, I'm telling you guys, they're going to support us. They're going to love it. Our fans are going to do it. And then they fucking show up, man. These listeners show up every goddamn day. Mike, Allen, Alex, Alexa, Ryan, David, Kyle. Rory, Tim.

Rory, Tim. You're all fucking awesome. Bobby, you're the fucking man, dude. Are you kidding me? You just made a bunch of people's Alexis go off by saying that name. People are people are there. It's going do do do. Like that's who fucking does this shit.

Absolutely. You know? That's the difference between us and them, them, that we have you listening. You're listening right now. This is not going to anyone that's not listening. You ever think about that?

Yeah. It's only the people who listen. Whoever I'm talking to, you're listening to this. I'm talking to you. Right. You're preaching to the choir. If you weren't listening to this,

you wouldn't hear me. And they chose to listen to it. They went through their phone. They selected this show, hit play, and they're actively listening to it. And I want to thank you. during this Thanksgiving time we're about to hit this fucking

Christmas season hard like a motherfucker and I want to thank you personally for everything that you're doing it just makes us happy man we're actually doing something we want you our fan base is better than any other fucking fan base on the planet and I'll put them up against anyone else anyone else they're an

army they're a fucking legion I love them same I could not possibly agree more big thanks to everyone out there that buys stuff it really does mean the world and Frankie's right we take a little bit of a leap we order like thousands of items of inventory and we're like yeah yeah people are just going to buy this stuff and then you guys actually do and it's really cool so big thanks to everyone talked about partners earlier owens mixers these guys

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figure out where geographically, physically in the world it is. Drive to it, pick it up, drink it, have a great time. They got a bunch of other flavors, too. I grab this grapefruit in line because of a little ode to Lurch, who's not here, because he does the Paloma thing. But anyways, big thanks to Owens. You guys rock. They support chicks in the office as well, a bachelor stuff.

So they're kind of all over. They're trickling in and we are very thankful for them. What are you doing over there? Can I do some ASMR opening of an Owens can? Yeah, please. All right, can you get my mic up there, Brennan? Really, really crank that thing. Here we go.

This is opening up an Owens mixer's transfusion can. And I'll now pour the Owens mixers into a bottle. Bro. Sounds like Peebee. Right, I'll say not only did you activate people's Alexa's, but now you're going to make them take a piss. It sounds like peepee. Let me tell you.

It sounds like you're peeing in a cup. I thought it was going to be a lot more. That's going to be a lot better than that. You thought it was going to be a professional commercial. I will say, though, I will say at the beginning of that was fucking erotic. The opening was perfect. Really solid. One thing that reminded me, Frankie, one thing you said when we were in Florida last week,

that they redo and basically plug in the audio and movies from every single physical act in noise that occurs in movies, I never knew that. Yeah, so that's a little segue. That's a perfect segue. Last week when you guys heard us, we were preparing for the drone video. I'm sure you've seen it. It's got 3 million views on Twitter. It's going crazy on Instagram.

Jay Bird Films on Instagram, Jay Christensen from Minneapolis, a nice Minnesota boy. Him and his crew came to Barstool. He heard me last week freaking out if we were going to be able to do it. We only had one day of prep of like walking around the office. seeing what the route was going to be. I had been talking to Jay for a long time about getting him in here. I saw him do this bowling alley video in Minnesota. It was fucking blew my mind.

I couldn't believe how anyone could fly a drone like that. I didn't even believe it. I thought it was CGI'd and all this shit. He has all this audio involved in it. I'm like, how does a drone get audio? So we get him in here. We have to get Dave to sign off on it. Dave has to be a part of the video.

And we're doing the whole thing. Turns out we had one crack at it. We did one walkthrough to show everyone, hey, here's where the drone's going to go. then we're going live guys we have one shot we only have one of those we have one pack of those party poppers that were the ending right i'm saying you're about to do eight mile right there we have frank the tank running through the 20% sign only once that's the only time we could have had it so anyone that says that was more than one take we only had one fucking piece of paper that

said 20% off that frank could run through so we do it and it fucking came out so good guys i i can't even fathom how good this video came out the route was perfect Every single person in this barstool office that was here, and I'm sorry for the people that weren't here. It's really hard to get 200 people in the office at the same time. But everyone did their role perfectly. Chef Donnie cooking. He got the steam. He hit a little squirt of water on the flatbed.

Let's just get to the elephant in the room here. I mean, you hit one of the worst. I'm going to go through them all. You know, the basketball. Josh, Josh, the editor in the back, he does. What does Josh do? He does Dion Sanders. He does all these amazing edits for us.

The really high-end stuff. And then he's just back there draining basketball shots. That shot was one of the most clutch shots I've ever seen in my fucking life. I talked to him before the shot. I said, you need to make this thing. He says he's only two out of ten on a good day. Three out of ten on a great day. His average in that league is three out of ten.

He rose to the occasion. He rose to the occasion. We go around and go to KFC radio. Oh, the KFC radio one was my favorite. I mean, the way that the, the way that the lighting change. Nick Hamilton's jumping over. Nick Hamilton jumps over the desk and Fidelberg hits him right in the chest. It just totally talks.

It's totally encapsulates, encapsulates their podcast. You come out. Incalates? What? Encapsulates. He goes into advisors. He flies over everyone's head. He goes into part of my take and Billy's doing his fucking his bench press.

He comes out. He sees Brennan Walker and Devlin and Devlin hitting each other like they did. That was a nice little Easter egg. Goes into the yak. Comes out. See Brianna chicken fresh. She's drinking. She's doing her thing.

Who's next? Then they come to front. Frankie Borelli, and all he has to do is make the putt. He has one chance, one opportunity to make the putt, and he fucking blows it. You hit it so hard. He blows it. You crush that. Right through the middle.

There's two holes. You didn't touch either hole. It just went rocketing through the middle of both of them. You're lucky it stayed on the thing. It almost rocketed right off. How many times do you think you, like, what's your percentage you make that put? I bet it's pretty high. Bro, I have the perfect practice putting mat.

I have it at home, the barstool. We have a transfusion one coming out. That one, I've made me. I can go eight out of ten, no problem, especially on the big hole, maybe 10 out of 10. I mean, it's the easiest part on the planet. You just go straight out and kind of curves right into the hole. Something about it, man. We weren't, we're not allowed to look into the camera.

Like, you're trying to act like it's like all one day and everyone's just doing their thing. So you're not looking at the camera. So in the corner of my eye, I'm waiting to see when the drone is coming by. So that's all I'm thinking about. So when it was go time, I just swung and hit. I just hit it as hard as I could. I just freaked out. And I also want to say this is not an excuse.

If you go back to the footage and you look at what that drone did to that fucking mat, that mat gets wrinkled because the drone's buzzing so fast that the mat actually flips the ball up. Jay in the behind the scenes, yeah, you make that fucking face luggage boy. But Jay in the fucking behind the scene says, I think I moved that ball from left to right. Dude, there's a curve on that put. I'm telling you that thing was going in dead center and it moved to the right. No excuses. We come out.

We go with the chicks in the office. We come out. Trent nails his. his luggage guy fucking shot. I was nervous about it because I sort of had to hide away so the drone didn't see me because it goes past me, goes in the chick's room and then I have to walk down the hallway.

Do we see you? Do you ever look to see? You don't see me. Really? It's close though. Westie was over there and I like hid behind. He was at the desk and I hid behind there. Yeah, I stutter stepped a little bit

but they didn't see it. It looked like it worked out perfectly. So they come out, Frank the tank, the whole explosion, at the end of the video, we nailed it. And then to go back to your original, point about the audio rigs, that whole thing is filmed in silence, right? So, because the drone is so loud. It's so incredibly loud. He's got these huge, he's got these little mini propellers on this.

I mean, Brendan, we and you fly drones for these fucking, for these videos. That drone is, have you ever seen a drone like that? It's like the kid made it in his backyard. It's this little mini drone with these four propellers and he puts a GoPro on top. Compared to these DJI ones that we have, it's the craziest setup of all time, but it's loud. So we had to go back. And when I say we, I mean mainly Logan, Logan Spence. Is that Logan's last name? Logan Spence.

Shout out to Logan. St. Louis guy, by the way. St. Louis guy goes around and figures out how to become an audio engineer overnight. Now, this guy, Jay Christensen, J. Bird Films, he has a reputation of these videos. If you've seen the bowling alley video, you see the Hard Knocks video, what he did. We need to live up to that expectation. We need to live up to that type of hype. You don't want to be the shitty one.

You don't want martial sports to be the shitty one. And also, like, you don't want it to look like he fucked up the audio engineering because we wanted to take it because we had to get it out really fast. He had a million other shoots to do. We're like, we'll take this, we'll do it. Fucking Logan's sitting here in the office until 2 o'clock in the morning every day, learning on YouTube how to become an audio engineer. He's walking around filming Greenleysk, rollerblading,

and he's getting the sound of the rollerblades. He's getting the sound of the sizzle. They had me roll my luggage next. to a microphone. Rolling the luggage. People cheering. And I had, I did it with him for a little bit. And I had so much fun finding out like what kind of noise do you need.

And it really opens your eyes to movies and, and, and all these, um, documentaries and stuff where things are filmed in silence. And then you have to go back and make the noise, right? Like, if we were doing a golf video in silence, you'd have to go back and get the sound of a golf shot and a sound of a golf ball being hit. And like, uh, the, hitting the ground and like, what kind of sound do you want for hitting the ground. Is it a soft green? Is it a hard green? You have to think about all of this stuff. So Logan did it. And not only that, but you also have to make it sound natural where the drone is

going from your left to your right. And if I missed the putt, which I did, and I say, oh, my God, it should sound like I'm saying, oh, my God, from the mic, and then it goes away from me. So he had to, like, bleed the audio out. He had to bleed the audio from left to right. If he passed a room and someone said something, it has to hit the right ear before the left ear because it's come dude he nailed it man shout out to logan he fucking nailed it so that video was so i actually did watch it with headphones and earbuds in because you told me all about the audio and how it switches from right here to left here and i couldn't believe it so i watched it with my headphones in and it's it's like 10 times better and more impressive with the headphones in because you get from

right to left it's it's really really really cool that uh that we pulled that off that partial sports you choreographed the whole thing right frank yeah we choreographed it we you know it was Trent saw me. I was nervous the day of because you have one shot at it. Yeah, Frankie is always a ball of nerves. Anybody who follows this podcast or follows anything we do knows that he's a nervous guy. He's anxious and all that. That day it was cranked up to 100.

Because, yeah, we had one shot at it. You got Dave Portnoye standing on a street corner. He's not going to stay on there all day. He's got things to do. How did it work? Did you guys have like a time in your head? Did you count to a number and then what did you do? The sound of the drone really helps because it is loud.

So you know you'll hear it coming. you'll hear it go. That was my cue. Like I could hear it coming after Frankie missed the pot. I knew it was going to come my way. And you would walk through it a little bit. So people kind of knew. So I walked through prior to us doing the one shot. And I said, all right, when it comes here, you're going to throw the ball. Pat and then Pat would throw the ball. Also, what was helpful was before it got to my side of the office, I was able to kind of walk around and tell people it's coming. Like, Grinnelly go. And then also go back once I was done because I was kind of following the drone then. I could scream out to Pat, like, throw the ball now, and then he threw the ball.

So there was a little bit of directing going on, but everyone knew when to go. Like, dude, to be honest, Fidelberg's execution in that KFC room, no one was over there to tell him what to start. And he, he, he did it off the top of his head. He completely, what's the word I'm looking for when you, like, just go off the riff? Improvized. He completely improvised. I didn't think he was starting outside the room. That was something that he did just for that one take.

and Jay somehow didn't hit him. Dude, just kudos to everyone here. I never thought we'd ever be able to pull anything off like that. But, you know, enough of the drone shot. I'm sure people have done hearing me talk. I've been talking a lot of right. Awesome, man. Awesome video, extremely well done.

Part of the segue was that we were in Florida. We don't want to give everything away, but we were down there for the Taylor Made shoot. Taylor Made does about three days each year a massive production, which again, this is kind of in line with what you were just talking about with directing. They bring in all kinds of productions. trucks, content, cameras, and they get a lot of their players, ourselves included, hashtag

Taylor Made athletes, to come and they shoot a ton of content that they didn't release over the next year. And you've seen it with the Christmas cards and the Thanksgiving and the little battles that they have on the range. And last year, a bunch of videos came out with Tiger and all that. Well, you know, we released our videos last year. We went down and got to film. And, you know, we make our pitches.

We submit it to Taylor Made and to the players, agents and teams. And then, you know, we kind of go back and forth. we go down there and we get to film. Again, we don't want to give a lot of it out. Starting early next year, we're going to roll out a bunch of our footage that we got. I would say that this will be, which is amazing to say, this will be the best series of videos that we have ever released is what we were able to get down there. And we couldn't help ourselves.

We were so impulsive. We had to put out the picture of us with Rory. We've never gotten anything with Rory. We've never had any documented, really, interactions with Rory. We love Rory. We're extremely positive about him. We've heard nothing but great things. every human being on the planet just sucks the guy's dick basically every time they talk about him

he's great in interviews bra bra bra ra well we had him for like an hour and we filmed a couple videos they're going out and all i'll say is we had really high expectations going in and coming out i think roy mackroy is the single most impressive human being i've ever spent time with the time we spent with rory mackleroy was the best hour of my life and i think you guys would would echo that statement he's he has so many expectations and we talk about it on the podcast all the time about how he's such a great ambassador for the game of golf and just for being a decent human being. So we've got all that coming into it. And then, you know, at a certain point during these tailor-made shoots, you're just waiting

for the next guy to show up. And at a certain point during that shoot, it's Rory McElroy who's coming. So then the atmosphere is a little different. He's an icon. He's a superstar. But then he shows up. And again, we're not going to give too much away. But he just has a way of comforting you and being like, yeah, I know I'm Rory McElroy,

but like let's have some fun and let's make a good video he was engaged he liked all of our ideas we shared a lot of laughs the whole thing i just can't wait for people to see it because he's just a great guy i remember when we were walking up the fairway all five of us together i very very clearly remember it was almost like a jim and pam take a photo lurch take a photo type moment where they do like the mental images i very clearly remember having an out-of-body experience where my my actual mind kind of became like Casper the Ghost and I floated up into the sky and looked down and was just like remember this moment forever because this is I'm currently knowing and I'm conscious of the fact that what I'm going through right now is maybe the coolest moment of my entire life. Correct. There's no doubt.

And shout out to Trent. You've been the number one Rory guy maybe on the planet. Yeah. And for this to happen and come to fruition, that that was such a big moment not only for Trent but for the whole entire group. We stood on the green when Rory left us and we had an hour with them. I don't think we're talking about that enough. We had an hour with Rory McElroy. We stood on the green. We looked at each other and we all just almost broke down into happy tears, giving each other high fives, hugs, saying, does anyone realize what we just did? We just filmed an hour's worth of videos, essentially got almost like a podcast mini thing within there. Everything that we did with fucking Rory Maceroy was mind-blowing.

The whole thing, from beginning to end, was mind-blowing. And it's not just because he's Rory Maceroy, but also because of the stuff we did with him, that was mind-blowing. We got Rory to do things that we've always wanted. You know what I mean? Like, it was so cool to be able to swing a golf club with Rory Maca-Roy. And how do we give you tips? What are we talking about here?

And we've had lengthy conversation on this very podcast about what's our relationship with Roy. We had no idea. What is it? Does he like us? Does he hate us? Does he not even know we exist? We got answers to all of those questions when we hung out with him.

So it was just... I would say that's... We hung out with him. Yeah, that is like the best description of what we did with Rory. We hung out with them. We were with 10 players that weekend. Or was it a weekend? Sort of.

Yeah. Three days. We hung out with like 10 players. And I would say we hung out with Rory more than we hung out with anyone. That's the craziest thing. We had conversations. we learned about him. Yeah.

It was fucking awesome. And he asked about us. Like he was inquisitive about us. Like where we're from. Where we're going for Thanksgiving? It was shocking. The whole thing was so cool. It reminded me like like the end of it reminded me of when you see a really good movie.

Yep. The best part of it is actually afterwards when you get to like talk about the movie with all the people that saw it with you. And like we just couldn't wait. We just looked at each other that green and we were like, are we going to fucking talk about like we have to just speak words to each other about what. what just happened. Like, did you experience what I just experienced? It was, it was off the show.

I don't know if it'll show up in video as much as how it felt on, on site where for us, we've never known how Rory felt. So I really want to hammer that home. We always thought that Rory, like didn't like us or thought that maybe we weren't the bees, knees of golf and was like, you know,

I'm just going to let those guys do their thing. And I'm never going to associate myself with them. Like, I'm just too much. I'm too Rory for them. You know what I mean? For sure. I always had that feeling. We've documented that on this podcast.

many times where I said, Rory fucking hates us. And then he just, for us to be able to, the first words he said to us was like, holy fuck, that was all just wrong. He's, he's the man. Right. He showed up the first thing he says. He loves us. Like, I mean, it was the complete opposite of everything we've ever thought about.

He showed up with such great energy just being like, he got out of the card after he got miced up and he was just like, you guys ready to hit some bombs? Boom. Or like, this is going to be the best hour ever. Yeah. And I said this a lot that day after he left. And it's the truest thing I think that Roy McElroy could be a dick. If he wanted to be, he's certainly in that position.

He kept saying that he's got all the money in the world. He's got all the accolades. He's got all this stuff. And he could be a dick, but he is the opposite. He's nice. He's conversational. He's open to hearing about how you feel about things. Like that makes, that goes a long way in my book.

When a guy is in a certain position to do whatever he wants, but instead he acts a different way. He's very nice. and the whole thing was just fucking incredible. Dude, he did something to that day that really made it so much better, which is that, you know, we all hit shots. We were all going to jump in carts and then drive up and then kind of do our bullshit up in the fairway. And he literally just walked and was like, why don't we just walk, boys? And so we all, instead of just carting around ourselves and then like reconvening,

that's where Frankie was saying, like, we kind of had a podcast out of it where for like three, four, five minutes, we were just walking up the fairway. Just talking about life with Roy McRoy that wouldn't have happened if you would have just gotten in his cart and driven up there and then gotten out of his cart and been like, okay, act two, scene two. Like, let's go. And instead it was just, no, we're just hanging out. Why don't we just walk up the fairway? And it was, again, we're going to keep saying like we don't want to give it all away, which we don't. We want the videos to speak for themselves.

We keep talking. We're just going to talk about every single aspect of the video. Right. It was awesome. It was so unbelievably awesome. So we put the picture out. We couldn't help ourselves. We were smiling, ear to ear, beaming.

I felt bad for the next player that we had because we all were just like, we hadn't gotten over the fact that it happened yet. We were still in Rory mode. I'm still not over. Dude, the next player we had, I went to that player's like agent or whoever it was and I bumped him on the arm. I said, we just got Rory, dude. Another golfer.

I was like, I was like, man, we're all reeling right now. I actually said to him, I said, you know when you've had a crazy anxiety-driven rush moment, that kind of. kind of dull after the feeling after where it's like a come down it's like a come down you just it's like coming down from a high yep that's what it felt like after rory mackerel where i almost had a headache and i was like hung over i felt hung over my whoop was probably off the charts i felt hung over after rory he was so great are we talking about the other people we i mean are we going to tease a little bit of what we did like of the players that we were with yeah let's let's

tease it uh after we do a little bit of better help we're talking right now a good amount of how great it felt. Nobody's like that every day. Everybody goes through really, really hard times. We're all aware of that. We're all, we all experience that. It sucks. Again, we are all very much aware of those types of experiences and how bad they can be the best way to think about therapies. We've got to talk about better help. It's through a bunch of analogies. We get our cars tuned up to prevent bigger issues down the road. I have to go get oil change today. It's actually on my list. We get annual checkups, go to the gym to maintain physical wellness. Going to therapy is like all the above.

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Harry Higgs was on the podcast while we were down there, so people clearly know that. We had like an hour and a half with him where we film really good stuff and he's just the man. And then I would say the other guy that really, really stuck out of the couple was like Colin Morikawa, who is, you know, the next Tiger Woods, really. Like they're stacking up, comparing his records and everything. That guy, I mean, he's been on the show, I think three or four times now this year. Frankie had him one-on-one. He literally took one of Frankie's ideas and wore a suit to Liberty National.

He just won a couple days before we filmed. He was in Dubai. Flew across the world. That guy, too. Hanging out with him is totally different than hanging out with Rory, but it did feel like he was just kind of hanging with us. And he's so competitive that we get really good stuff out of him, no matter what we do with that guy.

It was psychotic the stuff we got with him. Well, I was also going to say we stayed at the same hotel as the players. And you, this was on camera because we were back at the hotel, you had a very funny interaction with Colin. Yeah, so we all got out of the car. And, you know, it was like Brendan, Riggs and I and we pulled up. We dropped it off at valet. And I'm waiting for Riggs and Brennan to get their bags out. So I'm kind of just standing in the hallway of the hotel kind of looking out to the right.

And I see a couple bodies like walking into the hotel to my left. I'm not even looking at who they are and somebody kind of tries to get my attention stands in front of me and gives me one of those daps where they hold on to the hand for a long time and I finally focused in it was just Colin Morikawa and he's holding onto my hand

giving me that like you know what dapp I'm talking about right where you're just holding on to the hand and long form dab long form dab he goes my man he goes I just watched you for 30 minutes on that lower in the bar episode puking your brains out eating that hot chip he was how the hell was that

And I'm looking around being like, Colomorcao, I felt like I was drunk. And I kind of played it fucking cool if anyone was there. I was like, yeah, man, you see that shit and we're talking about him. Like,

you should have seen the next day. I was rimming my asshole with ice cubes. So, I mean, we were really getting into it. He was like, oh, what the fuck you're talking about?

Yeah. So Calamorcao is one of the boys, and he will always be one of the boys. We saw that from the first time we ever talked to him. He hates when people put expectations and goals onto him because he just likes to live his life the way Kalamorakaa lives his life. And if that happens to be winning golf tournaments and winning majors and making a shit

ton of money and being the next Tiger Woods, that's what it happens to be. But he'll never ever, you'll never feel like he has some sort of agenda to be some sort of person. Kalamorkawa is always going to be Kalamorikawa, no matter what. He's never going to like make you feel like you're less than him or whatever. He was walking around with shorts and a t-shirt talking about me eating a hot chip. That's the guy he is. He gave me Sour Patch Kids with the day we filmed the video.

I think we probably got it on video. But he pulled up and he was eating Sour Patch Kids. He's like, you want some? I was like, you don't understand what you just offered me. That's heroin. I absolutely want Sour Patch Kids. And then he's just an all-world generational talent who is insanely good at the game of golf. And we put him through a bunch of challenges that were very interesting.

And he got very into it. But like Frankie said, he's one of the boys. One of the boys. And they all really are, man. Tommy Fleetwood, we did some stuff with. He was all time as well. He was my partner for one of the challenges. I had to drive in a cart with him.

that footage is going to be all time. I mean, I don't even know what we said. When we have to go back into that GoPro stuff, me and Tommy Fleetwood just drove and played a couple holes together. I forgot about that. And it was one of the more surreal, like, scenarios ever. I drove Tommy Fleetwood in a cart. I can't imagine what you guys talked about.

I don't even remember. You blacked out. I blacked out for sure. Everybody was great. What's up, man? Lurch is joining. It's always jarring when your big mug comes. God, my ears just fucking.

I was like, what just happened? Did you pop a little bit? We're doing, Lurch, we're kind of doing a little tease. not really revealing what we got, but we talked about the Rory experience and how amazing that was. We're kind of going through the other guys and who we were able to work with. I mean, honestly, Maria Fosse was unbelievable. She had Brooks we got to work with. Tommy Fleetwood, like you just mentioned, Matt Wolf was awesome. DJ was like the guys that we got to work with, people were going to go nuts. And I said Lurch, I think that this will be the best series of videos

we've ever got. Yeah, I think so. I mean, just when you said those few names, it's like crazy. I mean, my brother is like, all right, you know, he gives me kind of a whatever from time to time. And then he was like, the other day, he was like, generational whatever's just a lurch on lurch, whatever. You got to pay me 20 grand to go to that Thanksgiving. Just everyone just fucking blowing people off. Hey, I don't really like cranberry stuff. The whole family. Whatever.

I picture, I picture Thor's hammer and Captain America shield hitting each other with the whatever. No, but nobody wants just a guy that just names. dropping people and like when you talk about the what we just did it was just he was like give me five minutes what it what just happened over the last couple days and you just go down the laundry list I'm like you're and even when I was saying it it's like oh my god did that just that took place like I'm pretty sure that took place I had that same feeling where I actually felt embarrassed at my Thanksgiving yeah talking about what I just said because I was with a bunch of people that I wasn't going to bring it up and that's why my brother was just like I

I don't want to even hear it. A bunch of people that were golfers and they're like, what did you do? And I was like, man, we did this with Colin Morricow. We did this with Matthew Wolf. We did this with Tommy Flew. And then we had Rory for an hour. What? Can we like eat our turkey?

What? They're like, I just had like punched a bunch of numbers into some Excel sheet yesterday. What were you doing? I have had that experience where I won't even tell them what I'm doing. Like I don't. It's embarrassing. I don't tell them that I was in Florida. When I was the luggage guy on The Bachelor for the first time, I didn't tell my family because I was just like this.

It's an insane life that we live. live and then recounting those stories like at a thanksgiving you're just like i know i sound like an asshole and i'm sorry but and also we haven't even said this name yet but people are not ready for the video that we did with sergio garcy no they're just no no they're not can't the shock i don't even be ready to watch it the shock factor with sergio might be more than the rory thing that's how crazy it is with i still can't i still can't breathe properly from what we did with Sergio Garcia. Well, that's another guy where...

That guy's the man. His answer to... His answer to what we proposed, I mean, I just wanted to go out and hug him and say you're even cooler than I expect. I'll give people a tease. I propose to Sergio Garcia. We have two options for what we're about to do. One of them being regular, a regular challenge, and the other one being utter chaos where people might get injured.

Yep. Danger. Danger. Danger. Danger. chaos is what we said and we said which one would you rather do and he looked at all of us in the eyes and he said we'll do the chaos and he just walked to his bag and just got a couple clubs and then we went and we did the chaos in danger it wasn't even a thought no and that was another guy who we had we've had no interaction with

and we don't know how he feels ever the whole thing if he he's one of the guys where i would imagine he might not even know who the fuck we are which is fine but you just you get presented with a bunch of idiots and we give them these ideas and they agreed to it. And Sergio, the whole Taylor Made team, the list of guys that they have are so great and so open and so willing to allow clowns, literal clowns come to their media day and propose outrageous ideas. And I would say, my name is Bozo the clown.

Right. Right. And I would say pretty much 100% of the time, the golfer says, yeah, let's do it. It's awesome, man. It's really great. Taylor made is the best company in the world. like them, them getting how good of players, how good a roster they have, them setting everything up,

them getting us the access that we get, embracing what we do, putting us together with their top talent that they invest a ton of money into. The company is just the best company in the world. So a huge thanks to. And our help there. You got Barbooty, the king, absolute king, Barbudi. You've got Mike who was new on our team. Mike was running around.

Ryan, running around getting golf, Ryan, running around getting golf, filming for us. Mike was running around with a tripod, filming videos, sprinting from. fair way to green. He also saved the day when you talk about the end of the column or cowo video. Yeah, he did. He saved the day. The guy is amazing. He's amazing. Ryan was amazing. I mean, the whole entire crew there is phenomenal. We did a photo shoot at one point. The people inside the photo shoot were all time. That footage is going to be laugh out loud. The boys got makeup. There's a point where somebody tells Trent first time. I haven't seen this footage, but somebody tells Trent to laugh while he was taking a photo. They said they said laugh while you swing.

and he just like apparently it's the funniest thing that anyone's ever seen i don't know where that footage is going to go i don't know if it's going to translate i don't know what it is but bug was in there bug was he they had all these cameras and bug was on one of the cameras and you're getting directed by this guy who like knows what shots to get and at one point he's like yeah give me a fake laugh and i just i don't even i can't even recreate it i'm the joker baby i can't even recreate it but it made it made it made brendon laugh for a solid five minutes so it's yeah now thinking back back on that experience. And we did a year ago, too. But this one, we were down there for three days as opposed to one day. It's a surreal experience, man. How about the Doc Redmond stuff too?

So good. That was day one. We mean, I forgot about that. Doc Redmond, I'll give you a tease on this. We took 500 swings each with Doc Redmond. I mean, he's sweating, getting water. I mean, trying his hardest to accomplish this feat. It's crazy what we did with these guys. Jake Bass is the star of that video. People aren't going to move that one. Yeah. Run away. Shout out to Jake Bass. Brendan Avery, who are on our team that go down and help film and get all this bullshit done. It really, like, they say it takes a village to raise a child. I mean, it takes a village to get all of our bullshit done.

It's stupid and silly as it seems, and we are clowns. It takes a city. But man, it takes a village. It does. So big, big, big thanks to everyone. I know it's kind of a thank you off show, but it's very important. We're thankful. We're thankful for these things.

We're very thankful. If you're not thankful right now, then you're just, get off. You're an asshole. Drop the mic. Yeah, leave. You're an asshole. Harry Higgs. We talked about Harry Higgs.

He was on the last show. A little tie in here is dude wipes. Harry Higgs is now the newest ambassador, sponsored athlete of dude wipes. Dude wipes great. I keep him in my bag. You use them on mini-a-k. They are unbelievably clutched to have. And the simple cell that we've always used is that if you get a big stain on a dish or something,

do you just wipe a dry paper towel on it and hope it comes off? No. That would be psychotic. That would hurt. Oh, that just doesn't work. you want dude wipes, which are perfect, flushable, created to basically handle your mess way better than traditional methods, toilet paper, whatever. You'd be prepared for any situation on off the course with dude wipes. They come in, clutch at home, they come in on the course.

They've got dude powder, dude shower body wipes. Great for products that are hot, sticky days on the golf course. Like maybe if you're down in Florida, that's humid, you can find everything on Amazon or dude wipes at Walmart, Target nationwide. You can go to dude wipes.com. If you do that, use the code 415. That's F-O-R-E-15 for 15% off your entire order. Again, it's kind of discount season. It's gift season.

Use the code 415 at dudewipes.com for 15% off your entire order. If you didn't listen to the Harry Higg's show because last week was kind of holiday week, make sure you go listen to that. One of my favorite podcast interviews you've ever done. We basically, we kind of like hoodwinked him a little bit. We were like, oh, yeah, 15, 20 minutes, and we did a two-hour show with him. So he's a great ambassador for dude wipes. But if you miss that interview, just hanging out with that guy.

I mean, it's been such a whirlwind, but hanging out with that guy for an hour and a half, two hours. And I know Harry Higgs has this great kind of image of the buttons and the sunglasses, and that comes off as a little bit silly or not serious. The seriousness that that man takes golf and his golf career is so cool that he's got both of those things going on at the same time. It was, like, inspirational to hear him talk about golf. He's crazy. serious. It's just crazy. You see the eyes of all these guys. Like you're like, oh, dude, we can joke around. Like, we're somewhat similar. And then they set it into a gear of just competitive mindset, focus, and drive that's like, we're still on the starting line. We don't even know what that's like. It's crazy. We're in the stands. We're very much in the stands. Yeah, that's a good point. The first time, not the first time I picked up on it, but you do find that these guys as likable and normal as they may seem.

they're different Scotty Sheffler was the first one for me where we were talking to him out of liberty where you think of Scotty he's kind of and he's walking around 10 dude No that's not Ricochet shot

That's not mean He's a jolly fella Was that a jolly noise He made him turn him into goofy I didn't mean it like that Maybe sound like a fucking idiot From the Simpsons or something That's not

I wish I hadn't done it now But he was he's a We love Scottie He's a we love Scotty He's a super nice guy, but then you start to talk to him. Scotty told me to eat shit last time I saw. That's true. We were like, what does it actually take to become a professional golfer and to have success at this level?

And then you just open the box and they'll talk for two hours about how hard it is and how intense it is and how much they have to work. Harry Higgs is very much that same way where, yeah, he's got that image that Riggs talked about. But then you ask him about what does it, what's it actually like, what's it take? And it's very serious. It's sort of similar to that Cosmos documentary by Neil deGre. as Tyson where he shows you, no, where he shows you the cosmic calendar. And you really see how like earth and humans are just on 1159. 59.

We're just, we're not even on the doorstep of how far the universe goes. Right. Makes me feel like that with golf. Like that's what we see of them. We know, we think we know so much about the game. But then when someone shows you the bigger picture and you meet these guys, you realize you haven't even, you haven't even gone past the first second of the world of golf. You're not even, you're not even, you're not even a good job with this one.

I thought you're going to spin off the plan. You're not even through the front door. Like people say that we've only explored to the end of our driveway of our own galaxy. We're not even out the front door of golf. Yeah, I think that's right. Harry Higgs knows so many more intricate things about the game that we can't even comprehend. That's the worst part is that we can't even comprehend. On that analogy, Frankie, I would argue when you were, I think it was early COVID, you were taking maybe eight steps to 12 steps a day.

I would say you're still laying down. Like if you think that all the scientists and everybody only in this whole world can take us to our driveway until we know what we know about the galaxy, you yourself, what you know about the game of golf is still in the bed. Correct. You have not left the bet. I've rolled over and checked my phone and I've like kind of shed. shimmied my body back up to get a nice pillow arrangement so I can maybe watch the TV. That's as much as I've got. But that kind of is the beauty of this show where we are idiots and we all suck at golf to varying degrees.

But and Harry Higgs alluded to it on the podcast where we are interested in what it takes to become a better golfer. And when you show that type of interest, a guy like Harry Higgs will, will tell you what it takes. You're not going to be able to do it to his level and it's going to be varying degrees of success. But he'll tell you what it takes. and us just being interested in it, like I said, we suck at golf. But being able to unlock a guy like Harry Higgs, so he'll talk about it for two hours, I think that's pretty valuable to the amateur golfer. Totally.

And I think it's awesome because it's this constant chase for like imperfection. Ooh, that was a toughie. And like they're still on it and just further down the line, but we're just at the beginning stages of it. Not to say that we'd ever get close to that level. But I think there's something, when you've mastered something, it's always interesting from their purview of somebody new, trying to figure it out, trying to work on their game,

trying to get better. And yeah, he was a joy to talk to. I mean, like, he's a guy that didn't start as a prodigy of golf, but it just worked his ass off late in life to get where he is. And to Riggs's point, like, yeah, he's got this kind of fun look. But then when he kind of sets in, you're like, oh, my God, He is super focused on this. Boys, I will say I got my list of errands I got to do today.

What's the first one? Can you guys read that? Buy Christmas tree. Wow. So we said, we said we were going to be big time Christmas guys this year as soon as Thanksgiving's over. One of my three errands today, next time we record this podcast at Wednesday, you motherfuckers are going to see a Christmas tree behind me here because I'm going to get that thing today. Question. Yeah.

Real tree or fake tree? If it weren't an apartment and how difficult everything is, I would go real, but I'm going fake for sure. You don't have to justify your fake tree. I'm, I'm going to- What are you about to say? I like a real tree. I'm always done real tree back home. I'm a fake tree guy my whole life. We've never had a real tree.

It's not pathetic. Is that allergies, tea? No, it's that I don't want to have to. Needles? You don't want the needles on the ground? No, it's not. I don't want to uproot this tree out of its natural environment and then I have to take care of it. Oh, God.

What is that? You don't want to have to do it. You go to a Christmas tree farm. They fucking, it's not its natural environment. What are you talking about? They're fucking growing for the sake of taking Christmas trees home. You're bringing a fucking tree into your living room. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be doing it.

I'm just saying that like, it's way easier to just have a fake tree, put it in the fucking basement. And then when December rolls around the next year, bring that thing up. Is Christmas season about ease? Are we trying to only find the easiest... Is it about labor? Are we trying to find the easiest way around Christmas season? Are we trying to put work and dedication into it?

I don't want to work for it. I want to... I would just want to enjoy the look of the trees. That's part of the enjoyment. You go out. You find the tree. You're with your family. You drink some hot cocoa.

You bring the tree back. You cut the fucking... They wrap it around. And that plastic's so hard. You got to cut it. You get a knife. Maybe someone cuts a finger. It's a whole thing.

You watch it's sad. You put the water in. It's the whole thing, man. We just bring it up from the base. He set it up and that time spent in the car that you would have to go out and get it and you have to saw the tree down because they're clearly doing. No, you're just sitting around drinking, having a good time. I don't have to go get anything.

God, you're so 21st century Christmas. It makes me. Am I really the only fake tree guy here? I would have been fine with the answer of like, yeah, I just don't, I'm lazy. I don't want to go get the tree rather than you saying I don't want to take it out of its natural habitat. That the hell out of your job. That was a shocking take right there.

That's how I feel. You don't eat. That's so bad. No, it's not. Like saying you don't want to take the corn out of its natural habitat when he's stuff it down your fucking face. Here we go. Go make pizzas. I'm just saying I really thought I would have some reinforcements.

I didn't think I would be, you know, one on three here. One of those moments. It is one of those moments. Riggs is getting a faky. So he's getting one. But I will say that our family, our entire lives, we've always done a real tree at my parents' house. But it's, yeah. Can you even get a real Christmas tree in Arizona?

Yeah. Is that a dumb question? No, it's a good question. I mean, yeah, there's trees out here. You got to be able to grow Christmas. Answer this question. Are there any people out there decorating cacti out there? Because that's something I don't want to be a part of.

Really? I think that'd be cool. No, I can't. I can't start, you can't start giving me alternate Christmas trees. It's got to be the Christmas tree. Speaking of which, if you can see that artwork over my left shoulder, I know it's an audio podcast. Oh, cactus? Yes.

Did you go to a paint? Where did you get that from? I went to a painting class the other day for Axon. And we all painted. It's like a team building thing. Company makes you want to puke. Oh, God. Oh, it's like, let's all go paint pictures together.

Look how bad this thing is. I mean, that's a second grade level. I really like Josh. I like Josh and I like your leader in the thought space, but this company makes me want to puke. I'm a fan of the whole thing. I like what they're doing. But, God, the fact that you guys are painting cactuses makes you. want to absolutely throw up all of themselves.

I'll team building. Fake trees. I'm going to get a fake tree. Wednesday, I'm going to have a fake Christmas tree in here. I'm going to decorate it. My mom sent me all the ornaments that I've been accumulating over years because she, one of her favorite stocking stuffers every year for all of us is an ornament.

So I've got like fucking, you know, 40 ornaments that I've never really had anything to do with. So I'm going to have a bunch of ornaments. So again, this is the last time you guys are seeing Thanksgiving rigs. Next show, Christmas rigs enters the picture. Your mom has how many Santa's? what is it over 400 maybe what she loves Christmas

I'm telling it 400 400 Santa Claus I see if 400 Santa Claus it's crazy no not even Santa Claus is wooden Santa Claus exclusively

what was it Jim Shore I think Jim Shore like makes these fucking wooden Santa Claus you know I your mom listens every show we know that and I don't want to laugh about that so I want to be supportive but that's just a lot of Santa

Think how much of just your home that takes out. Oh, yeah. You've 400 wooden Santa's out. Dude, I've seen these. I got to find one of these videos. It is an appalling amount of Santa. And now where do these Santas go? Are they spruced around the whole house?

She puts them all around the house, man. So like what I, you know, we go around and kind of count them up and she just loves them. And then every, I will say it makes it really easy every Christmas when you get gifts from my mother. Yeah. You get her like a really cool, unique wooden Santa and kind of checks the bottom. You got to think she gets it.

It's doubled up from year to year. Yeah, she's got to have a duplicate. How many wooden Santa's order on the planet in terms of just design? You got to just keep getting like the new version, like the 2021 Jim Shore. That used to be the new house truck. My mom used to love. He comes out with all kinds of new ones. Yeah.

Precious moments. You know what those are? No. They're like, I actually don't even know how to describe what they are, but it's similar to what he's. Hold on, hold on. Let me make sure I got that right. Hold on. Let me make sure I got that right.

Precious moments. Precious moments. Is this wooden Santa's, Wooden Santa's can get expense. Yeah, I just look 45, 50 bucks for each pot. I just, I'm looking, yeah, that's like the average. I'm looking at one right now. It's 1450.

Dude, she's got one. This is a nightmare. There's a bunch of those precious moments that, and my mom used to collect them. Do they come alive at night? I mean, probably. They've got the eyes of the devil, dude. Look at these things. Oh, no, I've seen them my whole life.

I don't think she collects somebody. You have some scary stuff in your house, like those, the paintings of you, of your guys silhouettes in the basement. Oh, the shadows. Yeah. The silhouettes. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that was that we did that with your children. So one of my favorite ones of all the Santas is there's one that's a bowling pin that's painted like a Santa Claus.

It's like a legit bowling pin. That's a great one. There's some really cool ones in there, but there's also a lot that kind of, like you're saying, they blend together. What's the Santa that you pop it open and there's a bunch of sands inside? Like a Russian nesting doll? Yeah, something like that. Those things are cool. Is that what it's called?

Yeah, and you pop on. I think Trent just nailed that. But I think that is. Some of them, like the smaller ones were hard. Right when you get a new one, the smaller ones were hard to pop open. Yeah. It finally got it felt so good. You're like, wow, that was so satisfying.

This has got me thinking that I'm going to buy a tree on Amazon later. Oh, shit. Because I don't have a tree in my apartment either, and it could use a tree. Dude, get a real one. Henrik Lunkwist. Remember in 24-7 when the Rangers and the Flyers were in the Winter Classic and they did the whole thing? And Henrik Lundquist went and got a tree. It was like the coolest fucking thing ever.

Was it Henrik Lundkwas or was it Haglin? I was going to say it was somebody else. I wanted to even say like Gabrick. I think it was a forward. I forget who it was. I could have that scene, though. It goes to the village, throws one over his shoulder.

Walking through Manhattan and holding a fucking Christmas tree. Do they sell tree? I see the Boeing. You see the board box? Oh, yeah. You see the Boeing pin one up there? I do. That's a little more organized than I thought.

Yeah, but like I'm trying to scroll it out. But that's only four of them, Frankie. I mean, she's got. You know, they keep going. Like every shelf in the house. This is a Russian one I got her one year. It's like a. a fucking elephant with like a Russian Santa on there.

Those things are gonna overtake the house at one point. If they came alive, we would get, we would get down here. Dude, your house, your house in like toy story would be off the chart. A bunch of sands with different accents. Different accents. Different accents. Doi! Dude, credit to her, she gets fired up every time she gets a new one.

She's genuinely excited. I think you can make a cartoon out of that. Yeah. All the Santa is coming alive and then they all have different accents and they're all crazy different fucking Santa. You have a drunk Santa. You've got an Irish Santa. You've got a Japanese Santa.

They're all fucking going crazy. And she puts up all 400? I believe she does like a rotation. I don't think they all make it out of the storage. I love the Christmas season so much. I don't want to be labeled as a Christmas elitist about this Christmas tree thing. I just think that you should show a little bit more effort into the season. You're starting to feel like people are going to be on my side.

No, because there are. There's a huge market of people that do have indoor, that have fake Christmas trees. I'm just letting you know that you, what you said about why you don't have a real Christmas tree makes me upset. That's not actually how I feel. I don't, I just, I think it's like when you have the option of a fake one where you don't have to care for it during the month of December, why not just do that? I think this is going to come down to however you, whatever your family had, that's just where you're going to be strong on that side. gut tells me that it's 50-50 on fake and real trees. I think real trees are more of a new thing.

T, have you ever considered buying an actual live tree back in Iowa? One year, we bought a live tree. We kept it in the ball and then planted it after the Christmas holiday. Wait, what? You follow? No. So instead of chopping a tree, we bought the root system and everything of the tree. And then after the holiday, we planted that tree.

So now the tree lived in your backyard. Yes. Yes. Like 2007 Christmas holiday lived in our backyard. Awesome. I love that. Yeah. That's great.

I might do that in my future house. I love that idea. There you go. You're not killing the tree. I love that idea. And then instead of having four to Santa's, you can have 400 Christmas trees in your backyard. You are the,

You have a forest. It's the beginning of a forest. Yes. So I had to fact check myself. My mom says she has about 160 Santa. Still a lot, but definitely 400. Still a lot. Sense of relief that it's not in the 400.

Sense of relief. Give it a couple of years. And she also has, I'm trying to find the video of it, she has a Star Wars fake Christmas tree that's got the Death Star on top of it. Wow. And it hits this little button and it goes, it does the Imperial March and it lights up. Go, dun, dun, dun, done, don't. Oh, shit.

Let me ask you this. how long, like, did you find out one day that not everybody has 150 Santa's around their house during the Christmas time? Because there are things from your childhood that you don't realize are not the norm until you grow up and start interacting with other people. Well, let me say this. People in the Midwest are super into Christmas. Yes. So I wouldn't say there was never like an eye-opening experience because almost every home that I went to, even though it might not be exclusively. exclusively Santas were pretty fucking Christmas out in the Midwest.

So I don't think there was like a moment where I really, where I really realized. Where you walked into your friend's house and you went, where are the 300 Santas? Why don't you have all? 160. 160. What was my eye opening experience? What was the one I was really wrong on that my parents clearly made me do? And then mixing cereals?

Mixing cereals. That was the one where really eye open. But do you guys do like in the Midwest? I don't think this is exclusively to the Midwest. but like pretty much everybody decorates puts lights on the outside of their house and does the whole thing is that common out in Long Island? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I love that. Big deal. We have companies like Long Island Christmas lights and stuff. They'll come and do it like if you have like a higher level that you want to go out to. But yeah, my dad, shout out to my dad did it all himself. Did I tell you about the little thing he makes? He takes the pool. I think I talked about this the other day. You mentioned. He takes a pool skimmer and then takes a wire hanger and curls it. And then that's how he gets to the top of the tallest tree. He kind of. wraps it around really really innovative shit that's that did it all himself i came home the

day and all the lights were out i was like holy shit dad what the fuck i mean not that i would have loved to help him because it is cold and it's not the best thing shucks but still you know are you guys ready for the star wars tree i'm gonna hit you with the star wars tree i think i've seen you put this up once hold on hold on is the star a death star the star is a death star yeah dude i've seen this i've seen him put this up here go look at this thing's off the charts Oh, I got to get the volume going. And this is a fake tree. Oh, yeah, that thing's nice.

Oh, my God, dude. It's a beautiful tree. It's got the Death Star on top. Oh, there we go. How big is that tree? Is that a small tree? No, that looks like that. That's pretty fucking big.

Look at that door. It's next to it. That looks like an eight-foot tree. You see that? It's got the Han Solo on it. It's got the Storm Troopers. Pretty good. Now, here's a question for you.

Do you have multiple Christmas trees in your house? Because I've seen people do that. which I don't like it all. You do. See, I'm the one Christmas tree guy. We always only had the one. Yeah, I'm only one. I think Riggs's family goes just absolutely bonkers.

Good for them though, dude. Mom's favorite thing in the world is Christmas, man. That's how we're trying to be this year. Yeah, we're trying to live up to those standards. I help my brother get, he's got his tree all set up, bought in his house already. I helped him get it the other day. It is. I mean, it's nice.

There's all these little things. When you get a real tree, there's all these little, you can go on Google, what makes a tree stay alive longer? Aren't there all these weird things that you can do to them? You can maybe pour some, I don't know, fucking Coke in there, I think was one of them or something. You know what I mean? I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I've certainly like hot water, I think is better, but I have actually. The Coke, right? I don't know if Frankie's right on the Coke thing, but I have, it's crazy what you can do to help the tree. Yeah. It's a caramel. You know what? I'm going to just jump on his side.

I think Frankie's right about the Coke thing. I'm going to go with it right now. You know what really keeps a tree alive? If it's plastic. Oh, shut the fuck up. Oh, it's dead. You're just the worst because you have to save the environment. No, that's the tree.

I really don't want that to be the takeaway because that I was just, that's my take from you. I was just yelling at Frankie and I just, whatever it came out came out. I just, a fake tree and you have memories with that tree every year. Every time I saw that tree, I would get excited like, oh, we've had this tree for the entirety of my life. That thing was there when I got an N64. That thing was there when we got a DVD player. That thing was there. It's a piece of plastic.

Oh, at least. It's a living thing. Those are just pieces of wood to your mom, I'm sure. You can attach sentiment, sentimentality. Gardensalive.com says, just add a cup of soda to the water in the reservoir every couple of days. Don't overdo it. Am I a tree?

Cut flowers like the, cut flowers like trees like the sugar and citric acid. And some folks feel the natural land. Lemon lime flavor of 7-Up may act as a preservative as well. I got a tree in the house all the time and it's me. Yeah. You know what are some great Christmas gifts this year? Nomad gifts.

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I believe if ebugs out there. Thursday night. Thursday night? Thursday night, 8 p.m. Easter? Is that what time we're going? Yep. Doing it.

Love it. Our YouTube page, Thursday night, 8 p.m. Eastern. Fantastic. People been asking. So good for Band of Dunes, drone footage. We got decimated by the wind, basically, the whole week. So you're going to see us. Cartage, gorgeous views, intense matches.

Frankie almost got eliminated from a physical standpoint by Band of Dunes. It couldn't walk. A knee injury that just happened to, it just disappeared. Yeah, with the point. Which I think was, what did I say it was? Hyper extension. Yeah. I think with hyper extension is just like resting.

Once I rested it for like the week after, it felt a lot better. Right, because we've been, we talk about your elbow a lot on this show, but the knee thing, we had to stop off and get you a sleep. It could have been like an MCL type deal too. The whole thing. You couldn't walk on a couple of courses. I forgot about that. It was really bad. Wow.

At one point you got on Lurch's back. You remember that? Yeah, dude, it was really bad. I don't want people to think I was overreacting. I almost went home. It was that bad. I couldn't walk, dude. I could not walk.

But just even the first episode is going to be so good for people that want to travel to abandoned dunes. We kind of are going to document exactly our route there with taking, what was it called? The Loop. The Loop was an outrageously good service. You're also going to learn from our mistakes about maybe not ever having to take a connection flight through Denver when you go to Oregon. I mean, it was a nightmare losing the bags. So yeah, it's definitely an informative first episode and just a little bit more off the course stuff to start, which I think people do like to see our travels and how we get to places. It's a huge part of traveling to a golf course is how the hell you get there.

And everybody talks about that with Bandon. Everyone's like, this is great, but it's really tough to get to. So we document that and do our same silly BS. It's the travel series. Travel series does well. It gets hundreds of thousands of views. We put an enormous amount of effort into it. It's probably the most comprehensive from a production standpoint up there with like behind the green stuff.

that we do trying to get different perspectives. We interview people. We get drone footage, real footage. We film every single golf shot. Again, we got Jake, Brennan, Avery. Everybody's out there. We're hiring freelance audio guys. So it's a hell of a production.

Ban of Dunes is maybe the most visually stunning place for a golfer in the world, or at least it's up there. It's at the top of the list. So these videos are going to be awesome on our YouTube page. Make sure you are subscribed and check those out. Tiger Woods Update. So this is the Hero World Challenge. week. He's obviously the host. It's his tournament. A lot of speculation since he posted the video

last week. Is he going to be involved? Is he going to make an appearance? You're going to do a press conference. Our trusty source, Tiger Woods Legion, who has earned at least one official apology from Frankie Morelli throughout history, tweeted out, I'm hearing that TWEW is going to be hosting the Hero World Challenge in person and that a press conference is going to happen Tuesday. Also told not to be surprised if he's hitting balls on the back end of the range. Source noted that he doesn't want to take away from the event. So kind of a funny visual of Tiger like hiding in the back end of the range, just getting ready for wherever he makes his return because he can't help himself hitting balls. But it'll be very fascinating to see. I imagine we'll have more updates on Thursday show as to what

Tiger's appearance level is this week because he hasn't been heard from. I mean, he posted the video, the three-second swing. He hasn't been heard from. He has done any interviews. He hasn't posted any videos of him speaking, addressing anything. So if he does do a presser this week, that'll make some serious headlines. Yeah, I wonder what that press conference is going to look like. Is he going to take questions? Or is he just going to be like, here's what's been going on in my life for the past, you know, 12 months? If it's business as usual type of presser, then we're rolling.

I don't want him to have to, like, answer all these questions. If he's just there at the Hero World Championship, I'm almost botched that. Challenge. Challenge. So I did botch it. A little bit. If he is just answer. If he's like opening up the tournament, like he usually does, where he's just talking about

how excited he is to be there and all the people that are participating. And it's just like another day with Tiger Woods. That's what I want. I don't want to be this huge thing at the hero. I don't think that that's where we have to see that. I just want it to be like Tiger Woods is back in our lives. Oh yeah, Tiger's on TV. He's talking about the hero.

That's what we're going to do. Just like he never left. Yes, that's what I want. I absolutely want that. I mean, that's already what he's doing. He's just fucking hitting golf balls already, not talking about it, not saying how his progress is going, not talking about his leg. Let's just fucking act like nothing ever happened.

Let's just move on. He's also not a guy who is, he's not going to answer any questions that he doesn't want to answer. No. You know what I mean? Like those questions are going to be vetted. The people who are asking the questions are going to be prepped. Like, it's not going to be a... How you get in that room is big.

100%. Like, I don't think there's no just any Joe Schmo can ask any question you want. They'll be like layup questions. Keep it tight. He can jump them down. I mean, if he can control the world in terms of the report of the accident, not really getting out, like nobody, like, if you think you can just go in there and ask him any question, like, no.

I mean, the first question at that tournament or that presser is going to be like, what's it like hosting this tournament? And it's like, all right, now we're just going. We don't want to talk about the car accident. We don't want to talk about the police departments. We just want to talk about we're moving forward. We're heading north. At some point we're going to get to.

Tiger Woods tell all story, whether it's in 10 years, 20 years. Not coming from him, though. Let's let Tiger Woods just be Tiger Woods while we have them, all right? I don't want to be pepper in this fucking guy. Shout out to the, uh, tout out to chef, uh, to sheriff deputy Alex Villanueva. He's the guy that just shut the whole thing down. He was the first guy on site. Shout out to him.

Um, he's kept a tight lid on this whole fucking thing. He might be running this presser down there for, for, you know, all I care about. Get the right questions in there. Layups. let Tiger just say whatever the hell he wants to say. North Korea, controlled media, totally fine. Like you're saying, Frankie, I want him like, oh, yeah, I want him giving the same answers he's always given.

I want him, oh, yeah, I'm going to play when I believe I can show up and win. I think we might get one of those quotes. And then, like you said, business as usual, keep the machine rolling, get Darth Vader back out there, swinging the golf club, stopping through people, using the force, choking people to death. That's what we want. We don't want all this other bullshit. So, yeah, that's kind of what I'm expecting.

and what I hope we get from time. I'll know we're back on track. Tiger joke. Yeah, that's what I was just going to say. I'll know we're back on track when he tells a joke that no one lasts that but him. That's when you know. Then we're buzzing. There's that beat where nobody laughs and he just smiles.

Masters, baby. Where it's something about like the speed of the greens or something, you know, like it's something that's completely not what anyone else wants to hear. Well, they're running a little slow or something like that. Everyone's like, are you fucking getting me? I was like, is that a joke? Yeah. That's when you know.

Go to the sports book. Exactly. And just hammered it. Yeah. I hope we see him. That would be amazing. Like if they're just like, you know, how are you feeling this week? Or what's been going on?

Well, the wind here is certainly picked up from, you know, where I've been, where I've been the last couple months. And everyone's just like, yeah. What the fuck did he just say? Or like, hey, I've been feeling these last cold days. He's like, I'm a little sore. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

That would be so good. Ha! Yeah. Actually, that wouldn't be kind of fun. I'm a little sore. Yeah. Basketball. Leg's a little sore. I think we've missed on the Tiger jokes.

There's something out there, though, that I hope he hits on. Well, no, that's the goal is to miss. Right, you got to miss. Right. I hope he says exactly. I actually think if he said, I'm a little sore. I think that's too good. I think it's like, because then he'd be like alluded to the, to what happened, which he will not do.

Right. He's not going to hit you with like, oh, yeah, greens are running even faster than I was driving in L.A. Like, he's not going to hit you with those. He's going to keep it. He's going to keep it real dumb. and simple and stupid. I just hope it's all about the golf course in the tournament. I don't want anything about what happened.

That would be all time. It would be all time, Tiger, not one thing. Talk about the green speeds. Talk about the wind. Talk about the wind. Talk about the, field. I don't want one answer about what's happened.

I just want Tiger to, as if nothing happened last year, right now he's just, yeah, he's supposed to be up there talking about the field and the green. He hosts a tournament. Yeah, he hosts a tournament. Talk about your partners and all the people that have helped you get there with

the tournament, not with your personal life and your injuries and the doctors. No, no, no, no. I want to talk about the sponsors and the golfers and the field. I don't want one reference to what happened. Agreed. So hopefully we get that. We'll get more updates on Thursday show.

Speaking of more updates, Lee Elder passed away. First black man to play in the Masters tournament. He was 87 years old. He was brought out, you know, in an awesome moment to be part of the first ceremonial T-Shod at the Masters. his health clearly as, you know, it makes sense now, wasn't good enough so he couldn't actually at the shop, but he was out there. He was recognized hand up. Like, I don't know enough about Lee Elder. I was doing a good amount of research beforehand. I want to do a pretty good, like, little historical dive. So I'm going to save a lot of that for Thursday show because I want to do it justice, do it

proper. And I also reached out. I want to get a couple people. I think we're going to get somebody from the Fire Pit Collective, which is Janella and Shipnuck in them, who were actually good, legitimate storytellers and know more about this to come on and do Lee Elder justice and talk through, you know, more about his impact or what he went through. His story's crazy. I was looking up like when he was nine years old, his father was killed in Germany during World War II. His mom died three months later.

He jumped around to all kinds of different, obviously like home environments before finally, you know, bursting through playing in the Masters as the first African-American. I think it was 1975, which think about how different the climate is, racial tension, all that stuff back then. So again, incredibly iconic figure in the world at golf. He had a great relationship with Hank Aaron, which I saw some quotes. But I want to put all that together to have enough time beforehand

and maybe try to get somebody on that can talk more through. But Lee Elder passed away, RIP to him, Icon in the game. Tiger Woods might not even exist if it weren't for him and the barriers that he broke down. But again, I'm going to wait, do a little bit more justice next show when I have more time to kind of accumulate everything. Breaking news.

The match. Breaking news. Yeah. Breaking news. Tournament host Tiger Woods to address the media at the Hero World Challenge at 9 a.m. Tuesday. Wow. Wow. It's happening. Wow. That makes me think that it's going to be a little bit more of a press conference about everything that's been happening in his life. The fact that we already know a day in advance, all the hype about it. I just want the cameras to turn on Tiger to be there. This is

already flipped on my head. This is going to be way too emotional. Is that going to be live? Oh, of course, dude. It's going to have a billion views. Is this going to be similar to like 2010, pen presser where like they were able to grill them on stuff. I don't know. I don't want like the Shacklefords of the world out there grilling our guy. He needs to be handled with care right now. I don't like the 24 hour notice. Tournament hosts Tiger Woods to address the media at Hero World Challenge at 9 a.m.

Eastern Tuesday. I hate it. I mean, I love that he's back. Tiger's just back in our lives. Obviously that's an amazing thing that's happening. I just want the best for our baby boy. That's all I want. Same.

It'll be a controlled. environment though. You better hope so. It will be. You better hope so. He might say one or two things off the top about, fuck, I don't know. The worst thing that's ever happened to him?

Certainly up there. Drove off a cliff, I mean, fuck. All right. Hope he doesn't say that. I just, I just. He gets up to the mic and just goes, fuck. He goes, fuck, I drove.

Shit, man. I drove off a cliff to. Fuck, man. I just. I just drove right off that cliff. God, imagine if he had that kind of levity. He won't.

He doesn't. I just drove up cliff. I'm just crazy. You can't, though. It was way too, it was way too serious. He is, everything he does is fascinating.

I know we talk about that all the time. Just like it never, ever, ever stops. Like, we're now, we're now stressing and have anxiety

about a 9 a. Tuesday press conference at the Hero World Challenge. I just wish they turned on the cameras and he was there, man. I don't like this anticipation. I don't like it.

It's going to see. It's going to be must watch. Do you think he alludes to the accident like it really didn't even happen if he's kind of like, oh, yeah, like the, you know, the police report kind of, you know, took care of everything. I'm just going to allude to the police report. Like, do you think he's just going to, like, I don't think he's going to touch any details of it.

No, he can't. He might thank the people that rescued him. That might be the only thing he says. Yeah, Mr. Villanueva, our God. Right. I'm just grateful for the people who, you know, got me out. And, you know, but he won't even, he won't, I can't even picture him saying that stuff. Yeah, got, got him out from what, Trent?

Right. Like, what, what do you mean? The wording is tricky. That's going to be, he's going to be a guy. How many people are working on what his, like, initial comments are? How many people are like the smartest minds thinking of exactly what we're trying to think of right now? Do we think the first thing is a sentence with a chuckle where it's got, it's, it's lighthearted.

I would put the house on something being lighthearted. Kind of joky. No. Really? Nope. Because you got to think it's pretty heavy. I think he leads with a thank you. I think he really leads with a thank you to the doctors,

to the people that were first responders to those that have gotten them back into a position where he can hit balls. I think it's a big thank you. You don't think it's like, I bet you didn't think you'd see me here. No, because you got to think, I wish,

but you got to think like, I'm back or something like that. That's our. world like that's how we would start something like that you got to think in his mind and his team's mind this is the first time he's speaking since a very very serious accident yeah a thing where he could have very easily died yeah so he's gonna he's like really flip the script like i flip that car yeah i think it'll be yeah he'll end up thanking somebody right away you don't think it'd be like uh he sits down and he's rustling around you hear him and he just goes quite a year or laughing

something like that. You don't think it's going to be something lighthearted? I want that. I'm already uncomfortable. I'm already uncomfortable. But that's a guy who's got like, even like a touch of comedic chops. And I don't know what he possesses.

You think we're going to see tears tomorrow? No. Okay. No. From me? Yeah, we'll probably go out. No.

I don't think it's going to be that serious. I mean, he almost fucking died, yeah. But you know, but the whole thing we've been talking about and I think if, If you were to put odds on it,

I think it's going to go the way that Frankie was talking about how it's business as usual. I hope so. It's going to be a must watch TV. I'll tell you that. Goate? Goatee or no goatee. Clean. Clean.

There's probably a whole team talking about what his appearance should look like right now. It's like he's a politician. His red tie, blue tie, what's that going to mean? And they, you know what they need? They need us in the room. Big time. I trust his team. They've done a pretty good job.

Dude, actually. I don't know. I think we'd ruin him. Go out there and make a joke about it. Yeah, they don't need us. I just want to be in there. Half the things I've said that I think that he's going to say would ruin his career. No.

Him saying quite a year would be funny. Quite a year. Quite a year. Excited for the hero. Just like boombole. That is true. Glad this year's over. The funniest thing he can do.

The funniest thing he can do is not talk about it at all. Yes. Well, I'd say this year was over par. something funny that's the joke that's a good dad joke it's pretty good that's pretty good yeah we're gonna try and dial it in and get under par here in the next year like you just all golf references it's so tiger now i i can't wait to see what it is working with joey to get it dialed in all right um i'm ready for it though tomorrow i mean you know i wish it wasn't so much anticipation and hype and and fear tonight i'm going to sleep like uh like something bad's about to happen tomorrow

so yeah it's going to be exciting nine a m a lot of people that are listening to this will already have lived through this. So it's true. I didn't even think about that. That's 7 a.m. my time. What time I'm going to be up at 5 just walking, pacing around my apartment waiting for Tiger. That's going to be so good.

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And you know what's crazy? It's so selfless. Like, they're doing stuff to benefit our brand and our lives of like they're just trying to help us, like, come up with the best merch. And it's so crazy to see how hard they work on finding the right combinations of, you know, exactly what we need to knock it out of the park and think about how many brands we have

it's crazy dude like we are I mean we're the golf brand and we have a shit ton of merch that we sell a bunch of like different varieties different types and but we're just one of the brands and they work with all of them it's like last night during this black Friday sale we're selling all this merch

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Think about how much stuff too. All the photos got to go on the website and you got to change it and all the artwork and all the graphics. It's fucking nuts. The team's deeper than what we've already said. I mean, there's what I would think are hundreds of people or maybe it's just the team that we said

and they work for hundreds of people. I think it might just be the ones that we said. I don't know though. I don't know. Well, thank you to everyone. It's crazy how much work goes around here. It's not just... I think a lot of people have the perception that this is just like a frat house that people love to throw things around and we just get lucky with a lot of the stuff.

But we get lucky in the fact that we have really good workers that help us. That's where we get lucky. It's not just it's not just it's not just stepping into shit. It's just it's people working really, really hard to help us. Yep. We, we, we do. We have an amazing team. So a huge thanks to them.

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I believe it was November 18, 2021. Ricky posted, as you can see, Allison and I are beyond thankful, a whole new meaning to life. Maya Fowler born 11, 18, 21. My heart is full. So a big congratulations to the Fowler family. I would say that there's a very, very high likelihood that that child, boy or girl, no matter what it was, is going to be a very attractive individual because the Fowler family

are incredibly handsome and gorgeous. So I think that that child was... I think that was the third. I did not think you were going to go there with that. I thought you were going to go athleticism. Yeah, I did too. Like she was a pole alter. Like, he's obviously...

I would say both. I would say both. That'd be my... Yes. They are two good-looking individuals. That's true. You also came in hot with a great name. You were like,

this is a great name. I don't know why. Maya is a good name. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't like the name?

No, I didn't see the great aspect to it. But we got them all tied together when I guess they're going to be just. You love this job. Yeah. I think this is obsessed with this child. This child's awesome. I want this child.

Woo. Look at it. No, no, never mind. Everybody, be careful. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Ricky's really grown up since that Ryder Cup picture. Remember that one? Where he's, he's all alone,

and then look at him now. He's a father. All these guys are growing up. It's crazy. It's weird to see from spring break and all that to now. They're all getting married. They're all having kids.

We're getting old. Growing up. It's a lot. People are growing up. Do I see JT. Is J.T. engaged? Yeah.

Is that what I saw from Justin Thomas recently? Congratulations to him. Everybody's growing up. And then the match, so I kind of mentioned this earlier, Brooks absolutely dusted Bryson DeShamba. He beat him, I think, four and three in a 12-hole match. Pretty underwhelming. The team that puts the match on, we know well, they're awesome.

I think they do everything they possibly can to make to create cool. events outside of the norm in golf. I don't think this one had a ton of pop. I think they kind of got screwed by the Ryder Cup, you know, sort of coming together of Brooks and Bryson that kind of killed a lot of the hype and a lot of the bad blood, it feels like, between the two of them that had been building up for the entire year. So I think they kind of got hurt by that a little bit. I'll be curious to see ratings or numbers. I haven't seen any of that yet, but just general consensus from people I've spoken to, golf world, people in golf Twitter, whatever, that there was not a ton of pop around this one. It probably didn't help that.

and a 12-hole match, you have a four-and-three dusting by one of the guys. Yeah, I always judge things like this and pretty much everything, on how much traction it gets on social media, Twitter for myself. And it, I don't know, didn't have the moments. The most of the stuff that I saw was about Phil, about Phil's commentary, about the things that he was saying. Obviously, he's great on the mic, and like, that's going to be such a lucrative thing for him

after he beats up on the senior tour for 10 more years. But, like, nothing, I thought we were going to, going to get something explosive from Brooks and Bryson like something really crazy and outside of that if you're not going to get that if they're just going to kind of be near each other kind of talk shit but not really and then have one guy blow out the other not the pop that they were looking for as I would imagine bryson brought cupcakes and called them cupcakes and it was just it was unwatchable honestly with other things going on on the weekend and I was at an islander game going like it was just I couldn't even fathom sitting there watching those two guys play golf especially after what

But we had just done at Taylor Made Media Day and playing with those guys and seeing how cool all those guys were. It really made me think, like, and I am more on Bryson's side now than I ever have been, and I'll fully admit that the Ryder Cup completely changed my perception of them. But those two guys are zeros to me when it comes to comparing them to the other guys on tour. What we saw at Taylor May Media Day really showed me how much I don't care about Brooks and Bryson at all. there are so many cooler down-to-earth regular dudes that we should be like focusing our time on on tour than brooks and bryson i'm done with that storyline it's just i watched like brice brooks like walk around and he was like laughing with the fucking earpods in his ear and it was just like this guy sucks man i just didn't like i don't know it just well and also and we're obviously biased but what everyone wanted to see was dave versus brooks and bryson on dave's back like that because and i think i talked about it on the lead-up to this match where it gets some a little too corporate and it's not a natural environment where at barstool we let things go we just we let the people involved dictate what happens where in in a match i think it's very much you kind of

knew what was going to happen and there'd be a couple little comments here and there where people are going to be like whoa but if you let barstool do it and if you do the dave versus brooks with bryson involved that's where you get the real shit and it's unfortunate that it didn't happen just get the sense that brooks thinks he's the biggest ticket in the show like he's he's the guy that draws all the balls and that's what makes me really turned off about him he's got that sense to him and that's just my opinion on him i'm not saying that that's actually how he carries himself but it's just like the idea that we had this whole match with dave set in stone he obviously gets hurt by hitting the the root in the tree and he hurts his wrist and he says he's going to take a couple weeks off he has

a ride a couple reconvene after and then he just completely out of the blues does this match with bryson and it's like yeah go fuck you and everything that you guys planned and dave's practicing for the match and we got him all these clubs and and we're talking all these golf courses and we have all these things playing and then he just completely wipes it away and does this other money grab with bryson and acts like he's the fucking show and it wasn't had nothing to do with dave and people are going to watch brooks no matter what i mean come on that that that that that turns me off big time on that guy it's just sour taste in my mouth when it comes to brooks kepka i don't know about you guys yeah i mean i'm

with you i'm not uh again i didn't i was at a bar watching the blues game they were on a 2.30 and this match didn't even have volume on. So we were kind of paying attention a little bit. You know, we threw a little bit of money on it, you know, trying to happen. But it wasn't that into it. And without volume, it's pretty tough for me to make a big judge. But you're right. It's just kind of like whenever they would show, Brooks kind of like was walking like he's, you know, cooler than the other side of the pillow, as some say. And it just wasn't, it wasn't really doing it for me. We've talked about this whole thing at nauseam. And I do not think that this, like, settled anything. I just didn't really care. I don't think a lot of people care that much.

I think there are a million other storylines. And I do very much agree with your point that coming from those interactions and the time that we spent with 10 other players out there on the PGA tour and LPGA tour, I'm way more invested in what's going on with them and how they're doing than I am and these two and their kind of corporate beef that they had. And that's why, and not to to to our own horn or, I mean, this is what Taylor Made saw by sending us to Taylor Made Media Day. we need to be able to do the stuff that we did at Taylor Media Day, Taylor Made Media Day, to show those new storylines and to show people that side of the players

that they don't usually see. Because I needed that day to see a couple of the guys in those elements to now become a huge fan of them and now forever want to be invested in what they're doing on and off the golf course. As opposed to like all we've been fucking fed for the last year and a half has been Bryson versus Brooks. It's the only thing that we've been told to care about.

Meanwhile, there's so many other guys and so many other storylines and so many other players that you absolutely should be caring about instead of these two fucking beefcakes. Yeah, I can't do another 12 months of Brooks versus Breastard. Yeah, I agree. Beefcake. You know what I mean? Like, and I think at the beginning of it, it was obviously they were put up against each other as like nerd versus jock or whatever. And then like now we've played out the string pretty much the whole way to the point where what else is there? Like I think if you had asked at the beginning of the Brooks or Spryson thing, you would say, oh, at the end of all of this, they're going to play a match against each other.

And people have been like, holy shit, that's going to be awesome. And now the match is over. Brooks killed Bryson. I don't even think that matters. But like, what else could there be with this little rivalry that has been going on forever? I also, just like the way everything was presented, like the social media and like if you're on Brooks or Bryson's side, it was just a lot of it. and I think it just got kind of too much and just kind of like,

I was done with both of them by the time this match happened. You know what I mean? Where when it was like right away, I was like, I was pretty intrigued, depending on what side you're on. You know,

Bryson would say this, but then Brooks was doing kind of all his, like, Michael of Ultra and like kind of like dogging him on different angles. And like, by the time the match showed up, I was like,

dude, I'm just done with both these people for the time being. And so I just wasn't interested. Like, they were both, I don't know, not lose, they were both, they both were downgraded in terms of like how I felt about them. So it was just kind of like a whatever. Yeah, but the match. Right. And I agree. Like what I don't think they saw coming was people being sick of both of them.

Like I think they thought that people were going to dig in on either side and you're either a Brooks or a Bryson guy and that they're going to be able to butt heads for however long they want to. But they got so much, they got so many headlines and they got talked about so much that it became clear that neither of these guys are all that likable. And people are just done with it. Done with it. Yeah. Yeah, agreed.

And again, I love that team that does this. This is, I think, what, the fourth or fifth iteration they put on in the match. It's like 2018. Tiger Phil, they brought in Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. They've done all kinds of cool stuff. And I love that innovative sort of unique look outside the box, trying to make cool golf events that are different than the norm. We're all for that.

I just think they kind of got screwed by Brooks and Bryson really just losing a ton of steam and nobody caring that much. Whereas that was a main storyline for a lot of the year. For sure. Times that we talked about it and we were super passionate about it. We cared. I just think at the time that they ended up doing it, people didn't really care even close to the degree that they cared beforehand. So they got a little bit unlucky there. But I hope they keep doing it.

I hope they keep coming up with unique concepts and matches. It's not that dissimilar from what we do, just kind of a different form and medium that they do it in. So I hope they keep going. I think they did all they could. They just got a little bit unlucky with it. But all right, I got nothing else. What's this Dylan DeChiar tweet about the Saudi International, the commitments? Yeah, I saw.

I actually do, I do have that on the little outline here. So I think they've got 25 players. They tweeted out the list. Some notable names, Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson, Zander Shoffley, Bryson DeShambo, Sergio, Adam Scott, Poulter, Bubba, Abe Ancer. I saw Graham McDowell's in there, which I put on my list because it's just funny to me. They're hung up. The Saudis, I think, just love Graham McDowell for whatever.

He did win over there but he's just, yeah. And essentially they're at the point where they're waiting for the PGA tour to decide if they're going to grant them permission to play outside of their tour and play in the Saudi event. Right, so the ball is fully in the PGA Tours court right now

and they, because hadn't they said in the past that they weren't going to allow PJ tour players to play in the Saudi invitational or am I wrong about that? Well, I believe that it comes down to if you're equating this Saudi international,

whatever the event's called, Saudi Invitational, equating that to the Saudi-backed Premier Golf League because the PGA Tour has said that they will ban, I believe, anyone who joins or participates in the Premier Golf League or whatever other spinoff, the Greg Norman Show, whereas they've been allowed in the past to play in the Saudi Invitational, which has been part of the European Tour. I think now it's Asian Tour sanctioned, so really it's kind of, you're right,

the ball's in the PGA Tours court, like, what precedent are they going to set, you know, on an ethics standpoint, on a competition standpoint, TOR versus PGA Tour versus other Tours? If they don't allow the players to play, you know, they're basically going to, everyone's laughing because the appearance fee that the Saudis are paying these players to come over is significantly higher, as everybody knows, than the fines that the players are going to get. Like if the PGA Tour doesn't allow them to play, they just fine these guys, but I think that's the only punishment. And so if the, if the appearance fee is way higher than the fine, it's just the addition and subtraction situation. Nobody gives a fuck and they're all going to go

over and play. Anyway. Real star power on that list. Serious. Yeah. Graham McDowell. And he's been like a headline the whole time. So I love that they're interested in them. A couple majors. But yeah, people are really excited about him. Graham McDowell, by the way, Graham McDowell might be our next guest on the show. I have Graham McDowell's phone number because I was trying to get him on the show during the Ryder Cup

because he was one of the vice captains and I was trying to get him on the show during that and he was like, sorry, I was really hectic. I was really hectic. Here's my number. I don't check Instagram very often. And then went back in for it real quick but couldn't get him on that week

because it was like last second. So I think I'm going to text him and try to get him on Wednesday show. I think that just reminds you that. That'd be a great perspective. Let's get Graham McDowell on here. He's just the Saudi's favorite. They love Graham McDowell over there.

I think his answer should be pretty short. Like, yeah, I'm just going to go over there and get paid a bunch of money. And, like, that's what it is. Like, I don't care about a waiver or whatever I have to get approved. Like, I'm just going to go collect a check. And we can all talk about how bad the Saudi regime is and your ethical opposition to them. But at the end of the day, we put the same thing forward. Like, they pay us $10 million each to do the four-man scrabble plays in the Saudi League.

book our fucking flights. Trent's getting a real Christmas tree. Fake Christmas tree is the way to go. I don't know if they allow those over there. We should definitely put up a poll about fake and real trees because I'll be curious to see what the results are. Okay. What do you think the number will be?

I think it'll be... So I think that number is pretty close. I just don't think many people are concerned about, you know, taking the tree out of the natural habit. That's not my actual reasoning. I would like the poll to be, I would like the poll to be, are you getting a fake tree because you don't want to pull a real tree out of its natural habitat? And I would like to know the answer is on that.

No, I don't want that to be the poll. I think as time has gone on and technology is advanced and the trees have looked more real and all that bullshit, it's absolutely going to be closer to 50-50, maybe even more fake than real. You think that's the reason? Absolutely. Absolutely. Totally. Dude, back in the day, I feel like fake Christmas trees were like a weird thing.

to get because they kind of looked weird and and real Christmas trees were like the only thing you could get there there wasn't we've been doing it since the 90s I'm saying even before that though do you think before electricity did people like put candles and shit or torches on trees or is that like crazy dangerous you should burn your house we've got to figure out the um history behind christmas trees that's what we got to do maybe next episode right next show Christmas lights is really interesting what Riggs just brought up like who was the first person to grab a set of lights and put it on a tree. Let's figure it out.

That feels like Frankie Fax. Yeah, I'll do some research, the history behind the Christmas lights and the Christmas tree. Just remind me right before we do the show so I can do some work. Okay. Thursday show, you're going to get a history lesson

in Christmas trees and Christmas lights. You're going to get reaction to Tiger Woods press conference, and we are going to get deeper and do the elder justice on his impact in the game of golf. So stay tuned. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard.

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