Fore Play - Sam Burns and Colt Knost

Episode Date: October 7, 2021

Guests galore. First, we’re joined by Sub-Par host, former PGA Tour player, and roaster of Lurch, Colt Knost (00:11:37). We discuss the Bud Cauley incident, the MJ lunch photo, get some great stories, and find some true common ground. Then, as we’re on with Colt, Sam Burns (00:52:45) joins the show fresh off winning the Sanderson Farms. We discuss favorite restaurants on the road, hunting, LSU football, pizza reviews, Trent’s bunker woes, and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, presented by Barstool Sports. We got the entire crew here myself, Trent, Frankie, Lurch. We're joined by two very special guests throughout this show. In theory, we haven't recorded with him yet, which is always a little bit dangerous. But we have Sam Burns, the most recent winner on the PGA tour. And Colt Nost, who was a very big topic of discussion on the last show,

we'll be joining this show very soon. I just said show like 5,000 times it feels like, but gents, hello, how are you? How are we feeling? Great. Excited about what might transpire tonight if I'm there, but I think I'm just excited for the day. Yeah, I'm in Boston.

Are you in Boston, Trent? So I'm doing the Chicks in the Office Live show. I'm the surprise guest for their first live show tonight, and we can talk about it right now because this will air tomorrow and the show is tonight so people will know that I'm here but I'm in Boston I'm in a very nice hotel by the water and we're

doing a live show tonight at a bar it's my first live show ever it's their first live show ever I'm pretty sure so I'm here as the special guest as the luggage guy and I'm going to go out on stage during the show and we're going to talk about whatever we're going to talk about the panty dropper is what he is he's going to walk out 45 minutes into the show the place

is going to go fucking bonkers bunch of females screaming at the top of of their lungs. Breasts will probably be exposed. I mean, the whole thing. That's just, that's the world.

Trent lives in when he gets off this golf course, when he gets off this golf podcast. The second he takes off those, those Peter Malar five pocket pants and exchanges them for his khakis and his black, um, preunex car heart sweater. He is a panty dropper,

a pussy wetter. It's just, I mean, I'm sorry for the language. I'm sorry for the language. It's just, that's what happens, Trent,

you are. You're this, you're this, you're this, you're this, you're this, you're this, God, you're this demigod that walks out on the stage of all these females that love the Bachelor,

the Bachelorette, the Bachelor in Paradise. You've got them hook, line, and sinker, man. There's no, there's no two ways about it. You can't deny it. I do wonder how many of the people who listen to this show know about, like, my second family. Because I know that, like, the Chicks in the Office fans, they, they just refer to this podcast in all of the videos we do and all the work that we do, just as the golf stuff that I sometimes have to miss recaps for. Like when we were at Abandon and then we're at the Rider Cup,

I couldn't do recaps for two weeks and they were like, oh, he's just off doing golf stuff when it's actually, there's a lot more to it than that. But I wonder the people who listen to this show if they, I'm sure some of them know, maybe even the majority of them know

that I'm very much into The Bachelor, very much into that world, and I like recapping it. I like live tweeting it. I've been on it as the luggage guy. I have this whole other second family, like I said. Do you think there's a good amount of them that assumes you're just sick at golf?

Trent, because you do all the golf stuff? 100%. They just think that, yeah, if I play the game and I do this podcast professionally, I must have some sort of skill in the game of golf, which strong boy, he probably hits the ball far. As the listeners of this show know, we just went through a painstaking series of me trying to get over a golf barrier that most people do in their early teens. And they loved that also, if they got a glimpse of that.

They loved every second of it. Trent was also, I mean, all the females of the golf world came out of the woodworks for Trent's Breaking 100 series. The guy is he has the world in the palm of his hand right now. And I would argue that everything that he's ever done with his hashtag bachelor tweets have led to this moment where he's about to walk onto the stage for this pop. I think that this has been the goal of our own Trent Ryan that one day he would cash in to be, I mean, I don't even know who you can compare this to.

That pop that you're going to get tonight is comparable to, what's that, what's that, what's that like Asian pop group, the BTS? BTS, when like you ever see the fucking videos of these guys stepping off fucking planes and people legitimately like go into cardiac arrest? It's like the Beatles when they came to Shea Stadium. That's what's going to happen tonight for Trent.

And you can't replicate that anywhere. Even when we're at like pop punk, it's a little bunch of dudes. Like we want to listen to 90s music. Like dude, you're about to fucking change the world tonight. To be clear, we're not performing at the Boston Garden. Like it's not going to be a million people there.

Like you're acting like I'm going to be walking out like John Sina a couple like a month ago where they're like, oh my God. It's going to be a, it's a smaller crowd. Yeah, but let's be clear here. Let's be clear here. At Barso's Sports, right? If we get some public recognition, it's great. But I would say what? 93% of our followers are dudes.

A bunch of dudes going, this is awesome. Bro, you're the man, which is great. And we love them. cool. That's who we are. What's your favorite course you played and we'll go and do it all day? We have a great time. Tell me about those irons. Yeah. Where. Where do you have Big Cat's number in your phone? How much does Big Cat make? Where's Dave? Yeah, no, it's a lot of that. And they're cool and we have a great time to get the bagels. And it gives us a really cool life and it's the best. But it's not like we're, we're not these rocks. We don't get this female pop. If you're a heterosexual male and you're into females, that's how foreign concept for us to get that kind of recognition from a certain part of the human species. Now we've got Trent Ryan is going to walk out there at this chicks in the office, the CETO

crowd, and you're going to wow this crowd because this guy that is the male leader for bachelor coverage in the United States of America is going to drag a piece of fucking luggage onto the stage in Boston. That's my favorite part. People are going to go crazy. He's going to walk in with luggage. I mean, they're going to ask to get in the luggage and you take them out with you. It's just, bro,

I don't care if you played this in the back alleyway. The fact that we have a guy from Foreplay, representing our brand, going out there and doing what you're going to do tonight, is huge for us. Like, the fact that we have one fourth of this podcast, getting a pop from an all-female audience,

is unprecedented. Like, show me another podcast, right? And I don't want to, I don't want to name names. I mean, Colt Nose is about to come on our show, and he's about to talk a bunch of analytics and stats and talk about X's and Nose when it comes to PGA Tour.

Show me a cult nose podcast, right? Since we are friendly with him, I'm not going to name the other ones. That can get, that can have one of their hosts show up to a fucking live show and have 150 screaming women go fucking crazy for the guy. All right? That's a sleeve, that's a card that we've had up our sleeve that no one else saw coming, you know, when they're doing all their fucking things and they're doing all, how are we going to beat four play?

Oh my God. Did you see what they did in Boston? and last night, Trent walked on the fucking stage and they had to mop the floors. There was a slippery, every table had a slippery one wet sign next to it. You're being very nice, but you're also making me super nervous. No, it's a huge night, not just for you, it's a huge night for us. You know, like when that video goes live, when that video goes live of that pop, I will tweet it at, like, I'll sub-tweet it at all of our competitors and be like, fine.

Find you another golf podcast host that can get this pop. Find you another golf podcast host that can get this pop. You better get the pop now. The pressure is on. See, this is why you're making me nervous. I might walk out there with my luggage and whatever. They're just going like, ooh. Dude, you said you're going out to the 90s Bulls entrance song.

Yeah, the chick thing I was producer Noah made like a hype video. That's like 20 seconds long that has the Bulls. The greatest NBA dynasty and like the, like the, the, greatest athlete who Lurch had lunch with recently. They're music. So it's, I don't know. You're making me more nervous by the second, but I am very excited. Owens Mixers.

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It's fresh, delicious, and just tasty. Dude, I had some tequila the other night. So, M.B. and Kelsey, who we work with, everybody knows there. They were in town scouting some stuff down in Tucson. They asked me if I wanted to grab dinner before they caught a red eye home. So I went by this place Diego Pops, it's called, which I'd never been to before. And the GM there was a big fan. And he's like, dude, you want a shot of tequila?

So he brought over this bottle of his tequila right here? Is that a turtle? He said it's pretty... Perez's bottle? Perez has something similar. I thought it was really similar, so I sent it to P.P. And P.P. is like, no, I never heard of that. Dude, every bottle that this company makes is handcrafted.

They handcraft every single bottle. And it's like a local tequila. It was unreal. Looks really good. I also just started laughing as all three of us just started leaning right into the... Yeah, exactly. What's on the screen? Yeah, that looks like a very...

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I got to give them a recap, but I need to extend the story. What's the word I'm looking for? I got an update. I have an update on the, Jesus Christ is right. I got to extend this story. I need to extend the information on this story. You know, I.

That's actually what you do when you update someone, you extend the story that you previously had said. Amazing, dude. The Michael Jordan story that I had of the Unreal CEO, the guy who's at the helm of Unreal, UNRL, clothing, his name is Michael Jordan. He texted me after he heard the podcast, and he just goes, you bastard,

I've been dealing with this my whole life. He got a really big, he got a good kick out of our story about, like, you know, how the fuck can you be called Michael Jordan? He says, like, his mom, just really loved the name Michael and obviously like I would assume Michael Jordan was like maybe

barely in the league at that time I don't know the guy's pretty young but she said like oh he'll just be a flash in the pan athlete like no one like whatever it's not wrong on that one Mrs. Jordan but his buddy James reached out to me and goes MJ from Unreal

is my best friend and we take a trip to Sage Valley every year last year there were like nine caddies waiting around his bag on our first day because they heard it's a pxg bag with the name michael jordan on it i what's happening oh shit oh cold that just joined in it's up anyway the finishing point to that story is that all these caddies are waiting for michael jordan to show up and it's the unreal clothing michael jordan and they all walked away and one guy actually said god damn it and he just walked away he like didn't have a caddy at sage valley

so i mean that's just a tough life to live when your name is michael jordan and you're not the guy Colts got Michael Jordan hat on. I wore it for Lurch today. We were just telling a story. You heard of the Unreal company, UNRL. They're like a Minnesota company. They make a bunch of apparel hoodies and stuff. They're pretty new.

But the owner of the company's name is Michael Jordan. Oh, wow. We were talking about him last time and all this shit that he gets in for basically being called Michael Jordan. He signs his text like MJ. It's just I just don't think he can do that. Yeah, that's too bold. JT's old caddy, Jimmy Johnson. he lives in Dallas and he's like dude in the 90s I never had a trouble getting a dinner reservation

we talked about him on the last show yeah I'm jimmy johnson well we said when you hear jimmy johnson do you immediately think of the coach or do you think of the driver I think of the coach because i'm a cowboy guy yeah i actually grow up and you're a dallas guy I think of him the coach as well for sure yeah um all right we got colt notes on the show I have a whole intro ready for you cold notes um he is if you're not familiar with colt uh this is a golf podcast that you should be and maybe you became very familiar with him last show when he was discussed at length uh host of subpar with slees drew stultz who's a good buddy of mine now here in scottstale despite colt trying to thwart um those types of things ever happening gravy in the slees they're

on serious we used to be on serious as well um but that got canceled so now we're not recently inducted into the smu golf hall of fame congratulations Cole. Thank you. Much appreciate it. Won three USGA events in 2007, joining Bobby Jones, who did it in 1930, and Jay Sigel, who did it in 1983, is the only players ever to do so. CBS On Course Reporter. You were also on an incredible 2007 Walker Cup team with Ricky Fowler, Dustin Johnson, Webb Simpson, and Billy Horshaw. And you guys at Royal County Down took down Roy McElroy and company. And then you introduced Lurch to both Michael Jordan and Bud Colley.

in the very same day. Welcome to the show, Colt Nost. Thank you, guys. Have yourself a day, Lurch. What a weekend we had. Yeah, it was insane. Kept going. You know, just Patriots game,

and then Red Sox game last night with the Yanks. The Yanks got absolutely shalack. But, yeah, it's been a hell of a week. So anyways, thanks for the invites and appreciate the chirp of me knowing nothing about the game of golf. Well, I mean, I always thought I had it pretty good until this last weekend for you. I mean, you topped it off with the Patriots and the Red Sox fans.

Yeah, that was cool. I had to come home and work. Did you guys know each other at all before the trip? No. That was the first meeting. And, you know, I listened to the podcast the other day, and I would say, I would say some is true. Some is not quite all the way true. But either way, I had a blast with Lurch.

Briggs, you know, I always have fun with you here in Scottsdale. So Frankie, I didn't know you'd get so sensitive about all this. We'll talk about that later, I'm sure. But in all honesty, I'm a big fan of you guys. Y'all are great for the game of golf. I just like to joke around and say, I don't know shit about the game of golf, which might be true, might not be. I know that's not what y'all's podcast is about,

but y'all have done awesome stuff for the game of golf. So congratulations. Thank you. Appreciate that. Well, yeah, I wouldn't let Frankie accept that compliment. I would like to know what was in action. in color. I did not say he would not remember you, MJ. Oh.

That part, see, I actually, here's what I'm going to say, and I didn't want to get into it with Lurch, because he sometimes, like, will come back of me and say, like, my family should die when I say one thing about him, but I've never said that. No, but like, you always take things like 10 times meaner. My, my thing is, my thing is, I thought that he, Cole, we got, Cole, we got enough problems on the show, as you can see. But I was going to say when he was, when Lurch was talking about the story and he was retelling it was that he was actually painting you i think in a in a worse light by saying that part that you just said is probably inaccurate because it's like oh he's not going to remember you like that like that part to me was like oh we have to have this guy on

to make sure that that's true cool what did you say there i'd said the whole picture thing because we're talking about it during the day the only thing i said was the picture thing is like he immediately thinks you're just a fan boy and i i stepped up which i being a beta like i was like with I'll be told my honest. The first time I met him, I asked for a picture. Well, there you go. I think if you go, something wrong. You know what I mean?

Who knows? Yeah. Also, if you have lunch with Michael Jordaner, you meet him, and you don't take a picture and you tell people about what happened, they're going to think you're a lot. That's a great point. I'm already gaining points for Colt. I mean, he took a picture of Michael Jordan.

Like, everything that we assumed of him is now, like, incorrect, where, like, he was too cool to take the picture with MJ. We had this whole debate about, like, oh, if you want to continue to be friends with them and, like, have all these lunch with them. Like, no, he's just a, he's like the same as us that would he would take a picture first time he meets him. Well, I mean, growing up, I mean, obviously I'm not an NBA expert or anything, but I think like all of us, I mean, I'm 36 years old. M.J. was the guy. I mean, I had every jersey, every pair of shoes. And I was a fan. There's no doubt in the fact, like,

that I got to meet Michael Jordan. I played golf with him probably a dozen times is like I just pinched myself every time. Like, just walking up and having lunch with him the other day. If I didn't have about four transfusions in me, I probably would have been a little more nervous than, you know, just hanging out with another normal guy. At the end of the day, it's still Michael Jordan. And it's still the coolest thing ever that you get to have a relationship with him and get to hang out with him. It's always weird.

Like you don't want to, like on one level, you do want to treat anyone like they're just a normal person. But on somebody like that level, it's got to be almost impossible to treat MJ like a normal human being or treat them like one of your buddies. Yeah. It really is. I mean, it's so recognizable. He's not like, you know, Bud Pauley or anything like that.

know who it is. So, you know, I was treating bug just like your normal guy. Yeah, I'll tell you, I'll tell you my biggest, you know, panic I always have when, you know, Riggs, you and I go out and we get after it a little bit, which I like to do on weekends anyway, but, you know, sometimes you have a little too many. You don't remember what you do the night before. The worst thing the next day is waking up and seeing that you called MJ in the middle of the night. That is full panic, full sweat. I'm just like, why? Like, why? How often does that happen? It's happened a couple times throughout the years of knowing him and I'm just like, Jesus, stop it. You're an idiot.

Does he answer? He's answered like once or twice. Not very often does he answer. Normally it's I'm in Vegas and I run into one of his buddies and we call him and it's midnight in Vegas and it's 3 o'clock in the morning in Florida so he's not awake. Do you like FaceTime him? I think I definitely have. There's no doubt about that.

I don't think we're closer with Michael Jordan than I think everyone assumed. At least me. That's close. If you're FaceTiming him at 2 in the morning. If I didn't make it clear, I mean, Colt like, was like texting him like when we're playing golf trying to work out this lunch and then then it was like confirmed when we're on like maybe the 15th or 16th Cole the call was like yeah he's actually coming up here for lunch like we're going to meet him in a second and yeah I mean

colts out right next I mean like they're like without question they know each other pretty well that's that's astonishing it's all right there's a lot of trash talking that goes on which it's not a fair fight I mean god look at him and look at me it's ridiculous yeah but that is your that is your MO. That's and and like Lurch found out you just run your mouth. That's what you like to do. And it was hard for us on this show to like convey in the story. Like no, Colt just that's just, he just bust balls 24-7, 365. That's all he does. Because when you're trying to, it's almost like on Twitter. Like sarcasm doesn't translate on Twitter is very similar when you're trying to like tell about somebody else. Like no, he wasn't that serious. And it's like, no, but you just told me

what he said to the other person. That sounds like he was being me in reality. It's like, no, Colch just doesn't shut the fuck up and he's chirping people in their ear the entire time from start to finish. You know, you guys are hockey guys and I play golf with a lot of the hockey guys here. And we talk about that all the time. They're like, you can be kind of like, you can be kind of an asshole on the golf course. I'm like, dude, I'm this little short fat guy that doesn't have a whole lot of talent. I mean, I got to make up for it somewhere else. So I just try to chirp you to death.

Like, I mean, when I played on tour, I played with a chip on my shoulder. I'm obviously one of the shortest guys out there. Like, I had to have a little meanness to me or I never would have. made it in my opinion. So it just kind of relates. Like once we get out on the golf course, that's my deal. I love to chirp you. I love to talk shit because one, I know I'm better than you. And two, I try to make you uncomfortable because I want to win at the end of the day. It very much reminds me of Kiz. Kiz is almost identical that way, where it's like... He's got a lot more talent.

He's got like, yes. And that's why I mean him get along so good, too. Yeah. It's very reminiscent of that. It's like you guys just like to make people uncomfortable and it can come off to the wrong person of like sometimes like man he's being a real dickhead it's like no he just runs his mouth and that's how he's wired because of whatever reason it's probably similar to you 100% and i mean that's why kids is one of my favorites pat peres one of my favorites i mean it's just i think that's that's the deal and i mean with athletes i'm not considering myself an athlete but just in professional sports like trash talking is the thing i mean you ask all the guys that step away from basketball NBA hockey whatever it is what do they miss the most and it's being in the

locker room trash talking with the guys. Like, that's why I love it. I mean, I get, we go out to Whisper Rock and it's just from the time the tea goes in the ground, it is nonstop chirping, whether I'm winning or losing. Our boy, Todd Martin's in that. I mean, he didn't shut up until he took a five minute nap on the ride home. Like, we had a bunch of drinks on the course. And there's probably 40 minutes back to our hotel.

And like, he's just like, even when we get in the car, he's just talking about nothing. Like, it's just like, it's easier to ignore. Like, Frankie, it's like, or whatever. Just shut up and just on we go. That was funny crazy. And then he took like a five minute kind of like drunk nap on the ride home. And it was just peace and quiet. Like nothing was happening.

I don't know. Isner was on his phone behind me. I was on my phone, which was in the Uber. And then he wakes up and he says three different things. They're on three different topics. And then it's just full go again all the way through dinner until I said goodbye to them. But how bored were you for those five minutes? No, I was psyched.

I mean, I think one night I looked at you door dinner. I was sorry. I was sited. I was like, just constantly, and I was like, you're annoying. Yeah, I mean, you make it eventful, you make it fun. It's, you have a, you have a good angle on it because, I mean, X pro, obviously, you know, you say I'm not that you're unreal watching you hit a golf ball around the course. Like you have perfect control all over. I mean, you hit a three wood for like 267 to like four and a half feet.

But I made the pot. I'm sure he made the pot. Yeah, I think you did. So it's crazy. Three, you hold it up. But you're coming from that lens and you're like, oh, you guys are coming into my field, my realm and you want to gamble. It's like, well, we're just like amateurs trying to make a go at this thing. And so it is tough when you're just a pro.

Like you've got that level of game. And then, yeah, I like sometimes I hit it good. Sometimes I hit like shit. And I really don't know what's going to happen. And you're just here comes cold. Yeah, you're coming in my old. Well, let me tell you guys this. He's not making this very, he's making me sound terrible.

He popped off. Lurch popped off and said, oh, really? You want to take it to the tennis court? I said, listen, I don't try to step in your arena. You're trying to step to this point. This is what I meant. Like, we didn't get the full picture for me. All the hockey guys are the same thing. Like, oh, let's get you out on the ice. I'm like, I don't want to go on the ice. You guys want to come to the golf course. I have no interest in going in y'all's arena. I'm perfectly fine in this one right here. You ask them to go to the clay lurch? Like, come on, man. No, no, I just asked you with that a different game. Just as douchy as you made himself. That is the most lurch thing to ever come out of this podcast. I don't know. Oh, you talk of shit? You want to play tennis? Oh, yeah.

Oh, you just hit one, 265 to four feet? Let me take you to the clay. You want to play singles or doubles? Do you want to play paddle ball? Do you want to play squash? Pickle ball? Pickle ball? That's the one else like a word.

Sorry, Lurch. No, no, that's totally fun. And it was like, yeah, and now, you know, I definitely asked him to play. I think I just told him, like, I'm a good, like, brackets player. But I was like, yeah, we'll play another game where we're both amateurs. And then tennis came up. But, yeah, I mean, Colts unreal at golf. And so, yeah, I mean, he kicked my ass and Eisner's ass every which way.

He was actually playing with TM. It wasn't Todd Martin, Peter Mlar, wasn't his best weekend of golf. But it didn't matter because what did you shoot underpar both days? The first day, I don't know. I think I think I shot one over the second day. It was windy as shit at Grohl. It was tough. We played it from back, too.

It was probably $7,000 or maybe $68,000. I don't know. Yeah, it's over $7,000. Yeah, it was hard that day. I will say, though, like we, you know, like we are all competitive, though. So it is funny to hear when, like, beforehand, I imagine the vibe on that whole thing of like going to the arena

and I'm just here on vacation to hit some golf shots. I imagine pre-round that was a very different vibe because you're like, oh, I'm getting shots. Like, I can play a little bit. Like part of our brain thinks we can. like do it we can play we can like navigate our array where we can have a good round golf's got this cool handicapped system and we can like be competitive athletes and like they underbell and then after it's like well it's on vacation like he played golf for a living i got fucking killed like course like

well so first first of the first day it wasn't so much it was just like yeah we're going to go play around a golf and just like you know see how it goes i've never played with cole before i had no like prior understanding of how he goes about the round and so like that didn't really come out that day. But then on the second day, I was like, I want to beat this fucking guy so goddamn badly. I don't care about him being like a pro. I'm getting my shots. I want to fucking beat this guy. But then you just understand, like, you know, and you just see it. Like the range of good shots and bad shots in my game just comes up so much more frequently than his. Like, he's never making worse than a bogey ever. And like a bogey's coming out once,

maybe twice around. And so, like, there's, you know, there's. a good chance you just getting beat. Like, Isner was like, I would argue that Colt is the best handicapped golfer like in the country. Like, just play right to it, make a couple birdies. He's a plus three. Like he's, he's, I mean, you're good. You're good.

It's like, I'll tell you this. Like, I'd never seen you play. I saw you hit some balls on the range. And I was giving you 10 shots the first day. We go out in the first few holes, you hit it great. And I'm like, this is going to be a problem. Like, you drive direct, drove it right down the middle. hit your irons on the green you hit one to like four feet and i'm like oh boy and mizner just looks at me he goes

just make him put everything he said that then i figured it out i didn't know he said that i'm going to give him chip for that was your partner yeah that was my partner i mean i was like why does he get so many strokes he hits it great like you hit it further than i do and you hit your iron's great and then he's like just wait till he butts i'm like okay now i see it now i see it i had some bad ones this past weekend too it was like i was like Lurch. It's just back and through. It's the smallest stroke there is. It's easy. He said all the golf stuff is how easy it is. All right. Now, let's talk about the stuff that really got us heated, which was the bud was the bud situation. I want to give you a chance to, you know, talk about your side of the story. Because from our vantage point, it seems as though we're supposed to know every single person that's ever stepped on on on grass on the PGA tour. Yeah. So I just assumed people knew who Bud Colley was. Once again, like I'm a golf nerd. I talk about golf 24-7, 365. I mean, I have three jobs that are all talking about golf.

And these guys are my friends, but I just assumed most people in the golf world knew who Bud Collie was considering, you know, he did something that I think 12 other people in the game of golf have done, which was earn your tour card through sponsor exemptions without having to go to Q school. And I just got, and listen, I like to give y'all shit about not knowing anything about golf. It was the perfect scenario where we're at Justin Thomas's house and Ricky's there and these other random people and we'd been drinking since about 9.30 that morning and it was about 4 in the afternoon and I walked by and I hear

so bud what do you do and I fucking lost it. I was like this is so perfect like the one time you didn't want me to walk by was right there and I guess that's my fault for assuming I should thought y'all would know who bud collie was because I thought it didn't really like affect me on that level like you're chirping me because like but I was like yeah

I mean I'm just asking this guy what he does like I don't know what the hell he does I don't like I didn't recognize him so you walking by and then chirping me, which was like your continual chirp. Oh, you're the fourth mic. Oh, you're like. You told me you're the fourth mic. I probably heard that 500 times from you.

And then like there was just like more of the same. So that was like another like, yeah, whatever. Like yeah, I don't know who Bud is. But he is, I mean, he's the nicest guy in the world. See, I think we would argue like we know of Bud Colley. Like there's no way that we don't know who Bud is. It's just I think like if you saw like, I don't know, fucking I just watched the Yankees.

I said like Joey Gallo walks by me on the street like I don't know like I would just like maybe walk right by him or like Anthony Rizzo you may not like if he's just in like a hoodie and a t-shirt and shorts I may not like recognize him like I just in that situation and I know Lurch probably should have been like I'm at Justin Thomas's house these guys are probably all professional golfers like it's not like it's not like he was at a fucking cafe in the middle of like Louisiana just be like what do you do but um but yeah I just thought like the idea that like then it almost like went into like four play done. doesn't know, like, that's just like, that's our MO is to not know anything in the game of golf, which is like, if we don't know who this guy is in street clothes, that has nothing to do with, like, us and our enjoyment or our connection to the game of golf, like, or even just, like, our knowledge of the game of golf. Like, wouldn't you agree it's, like, such a weird thing to, like, pin on someone for not knowing who someone is in street clothes? It was a lot of alcohol involved in just a perfect situation of me just continuing to talk shit

to lurch. And it was, it was great. I mess with Riggs all the time about this. First off, y'all, y'all debate golf a lot. I see y'all stuff. Y'all debate, you know, who should be on the Ryder Cup team, who shouldn't. Y'all know, y'all talk a lot about the game of the golf. I just like giving Riggs and you guys shit that y'all don't know anything.

It's just all just part of just trash talking. Like I said, I said this on serious XM after people hated on me on Twitter. I'm like, Jesus Christ, guys. Like, I said, these guys are great for the game of golf. Like, they have brought a whole new audience to the game of golf. Their brand is unbelievable. Like, I'm jealous of their brand. I wish I you know what y'all have done is truly remarkable and it's and it's great people love listening to you I mean you got jason day talking about you i mean everyone on the pGA tour knows who you guys are and that's so cool because they don't know who a lot of media guys are but they know who the four of you guys are high school bathroom you can just write anything on the wall it's just and it's telephone it's a it's a big game of telephone too like like riggs was saying before where you guys last episode were trying to convey the shit because

I don't know Colt that well. We run into each other at events sometimes. We say hello. But I haven't spent a lot of time with him. But you guys have, and you clearly understand his attitude and where he's coming from. But then to try to explain that to me and Frankie on the show is impossible. But having him on now, a lot of it, it makes a lot more sense, hearing it come directly from him. Yeah, it's nothing hateful.

It's just all fun. Right. I mean, like I said, that's my favorite thing to do. I mean, he saw it like, I should talk with Michael Jordan. I mean, I have no business shit talking with Michael Jordan. Like he's an whole other planet. No, like y'all said, I think yesterday, Tiger Woods is about the only guy that should be able to shit talk Michael Jordan. But I'd do it just because it's fun.

Right. Yeah, I would say it is like from the credibility standpoint, it is always a little bit tricky. Like I agree with that for us and that. Yeah, like we don't. Our show is not based on fucking analytics and being able to break down shots and being able to break down shots of being able to break down who's most likely to get there, you know, get through Q school. Like, we just don't really pay attention to that.

And I think, like, mainstream golf fans, like the average mainstream golf fan probably doesn't either. But then there are also times, like, we'll get into it with players for 45 minutes an hour on the show. We will kind of break down and get into stuff. And because we've been exposed to a lot of that, like, yeah, we definitely know a lot more now than we did when we were just purely fans.

And we know more, like when we are walking around events, and stuff, there's guys and situations and stories and little tidbits and insight that we've gotten that like we do know more. So I do think like we on some level in those spots, like in order for us to relate to our fans, it's not important that we like fucking know who Bud Kali is and all the times. But I do think in order to appeal to a certain subsect of like players and stuff that there needs to be a degree of that, I think. So like, so I think we're always a little bit caught with like, yeah, no, we know like enough, but like we don't know everything. And I think to able to like to be, to have players want to be kind of our go-to, like Frankie mentioned, like Aaron

Rogers going on Pat McAfee and like you guys have guys come on your show a lot on the series X-X-im show when things are going on in the news. Like for us to be closer to that, I do think we would need to know more of that stuff or at least have players believe that we know a lot of that stuff. So we are caught a little bit in between sometimes, even though we're clearly leaning more towards we appeal to the fan more than to the player. Yeah, and you see it every single week out there on the PJ tour. I mean, there's bar stool gear all over the place. And that's awesome because, I mean, and like I said,

y'all relate to a different audience that makes it fun. And my example was going to be Pat McAfee. I mean, I love that guy. Like, I'm a huge football guy, but I would rather listen to him than most people because he makes it fun, which is what y'all do. And that's what Slees and I try to do as well, but we also throw in some, I mean, we have, I mean, I've played golf for a living, so I have a little bit different, you know, background, obviously.

But we try to just make it as much fun as possible. We're never going to get to the point y'all are. We're not allowed to say, fuck every other word, which is really tragic. I really enjoy that. Frank, you're bad about that. That's it. It brings in the money, man. Hold, that's a secret.

That's how you get your brand this big and strong. You just say, fuck. The argument could be made, the argument could be made that that is the difference. Being unfiltered is. huge, man. I just think, and there's always this talk about doing sports broadcasting unfiltered, like having a separate thing. And I think whenever someone figures out how to do it and do it well, that's going to be the future. Like I, I want to got, I mean, what Bob Minery did, I mean, that's how he got famous. And granted, I'm not going to compliment him anymore, but he makes

it fun. Like, that's, y'all make this, y'all make golf fun in a sport that's so uptight. Like, one of my favorite arguments y'all ever got in was with what you all call old school media or old man oh man golf yeah like dude that's my whole point like if you want that stuff you can go listen to it you don't have to listen to barstool it's a choice like let them do their thing old man media do your side in whichever way the people want to go it's fine there's no right or wrong answer so that's where i got sensitive about it because i every time we always hear every week it's like well how do you feel that jordan spieth went on subpar instead of your show it's like well if I was Jordan Speeith, I'd want to go talk to someone after a big tournament or as I'm on my comeback

to someone that knows me a little bit better. And like, you, you were a PGA Tour pro. Like, you are a part, you're his peer. That is the Pat McAfee argument with Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers is not going on. He's not like going on like the, the joking podcast that, you know, would probably ask him about his dick size as opposed to like, all right, like Pat McAfee knows exactly the questions to ask him. And AJ Hawk is his, that's who he's doing it with, right? It's AJ Hawk. Yeah. was his was his teammate so it's like yeah he feels comfortable there like these guys feel comfortable around you guys and i don't know why it's always like a negative from like a golf fan's viewer standpoint where they're like well you guys aren't getting the guys that they're getting or like

you guys don't know anything about golf it clearly shows it the players it's like why can't you listen to us talk about our shit that clearly is working about like us talk about the universe and then go listen to subpar about like when they break down jordan speech game and his like come back and all this like that's perfectly like possible to be able to enjoy both things. So when it comes off as like, oh, these guys know nothing again, like, and I'm picturing, like, at Justin Thomas's house, like, Lurch is standing there and everyone's laughing at the foreplay guys. It's like, well, hey, man, we're doing pretty well for ourselves over here, fucking just do it, not knowing who Bud Collie is. Like, that's fine if you guys

know who he, like, he is in street clothes. Like, why can't we both exist? So that's the, that's the only reason why I really got, like, fed up with it, because we hear it every week. It's like, dude, we're just going to continue to do our thing. And, and Colt's going to keep killing his thing. And, like, you can enjoy both. There's no. reason why you can't listen there's guys that go on y'all's show that comes on our show like golfers they want to grow their brand and obviously and those are two different shows right there's two totally different interviews yeah i mean ours is joking around but there's also some serious part to it as well right and you can go on what i mean when you get invited to go on one of these like listen i have my

own podcast there's a no-brainer when y'all ask me to come on y'alls i'm going to do it like this helps me out as well like there's no doubt more people get to know who i am now like why wouldn't i do it. Right. All right. I got on a pretty cool hoodie right now, boys and girls. It's from Peter Millar because it's fall. You know, it's getting a little chilly out there. It's getting a little nippy. Weather might be a little bit more unpredictable. Like we were abandoned. Everybody bought cool Peter Malar hoodies. You can go to petermalar.com slash for play. Check out all of their cool, um, you know, top layer, pullovers, crew necks, QZips, hoodies, all the good stuff. I got a couple cool ones over here right now actually i'll show you guys yeah finding out about the you're not finding

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swing. So go to peter molar.com slash foreplay right now. If I'm just a fan of any of golf in general and these players are going on multiple short, like if they go on subpar for an hour and then they go on forwardplay for an hour, I'm going to listen to both of those because like if same reason I'm a big like, like we're all Tiger Woods fans. If Tiger Woods goes on anything, I'm going to listen. I'm not going to be like, oh, Tiger Woods already did a interview. So I'm not going to listen to like any of it.

Like you're going to hear different stuff and just hear more of it. and you're going to get different stories, you're going to get stuff. So that stuff, like, who gives a shit about that stuff? And we get it a lot, too, when we'll really go in on Bryson, right, on the show. And then we'll get a few emails or tweets that'll be like, man, I really think what you guys said is probably going to discourage them from coming on in the future. Like, you should really rethink that. It's like, well, no, like, if our success is based only on catering to people so they come on our show, then we're not actually doing our own show. We don't have our own show.

We're just doing what we do so that we're relying fully on other people coming on. Like we don't really give a fuck at the end of the day. In fact, like if we could do a whole show that got as big as it could in the world without us ever needing one guest ever, that'd be fucking awesome. Because then we're just as entertaining and as big of a draw as anyone else. So it's always when people react that way, it's always really bizarre because it's like, no, that's like our secret sauce isn't just sucking Bryson de Shambos dick so it'll come on our show. Like that's not it. Our secret sauce is actually saying fuck every other word, which Cam Swan. who emailed us on January 28th, Frankie,

if remember I recorded these stats. He said, Riggs 27, Frankie 46. This is how many times the two of you said fuck on today's podcast, January 27th. If we're adding new words to stop saying, please consider adding fuck to the list. It's almost impressive how often you guys say. I am trying, I'm consciously trying to think about

how many times we say it. It's just like when I go on these tangents and these rambles and I run down these mountains, I lose it, man. I'm literally Jordan's, I'm Jordan's, running down that little hill and I'm about to fall into the lake. Like that's exactly what my brain feels like. No, but you go back to the guest thing. Like, and I agree with you.

Like as a former player who has done some interviews and stuff, it's like, listen, most of the media, like you sit me down for a 20 minute interview. I can probably tell you what 90% of the questions are. And that's what makes y' all great. And that's what we try to do over at subpar is, listen, I want to ask guys questions that they don't, they don't already know what they're going to say. Like, I want them to be caught off guard. nothing like that's going to get them in trouble or anything like that.

I just want to take a different angle. And I think that's why if you had Jordan Speeth on y'all's show and then we had them on us, you'd get two hours of totally different conversations, which makes it fantastic. And one other thing about the Bryson thing, they got the Rider Cup. So Bryson went to SMU where I went. His mom comes up to me. I believe her name is Janet Deschambo. And she's like, hey, Carl, Bryson's mom.

And I'd met her before. I was like, oh, good to see you again. She's like, I love listening to you, except when you get my son's shit. And I just turned to laugh. And I was like, listen, I mean, to be fair, Bryson brings a lot of it on himself. I'm just got to kind of call it like I see it. Right. I bet Janet does not listen to this show.

Well, Brice is, you know, a son of her mother, then, you know, they probably hold some grudges in there. So that all makes perfect. But we had Bryson on a serious XM show yesterday, and he couldn't have been more fantastic. He was so nice. And it's amazing because we've had 90% of the times we've had interactions with him or maybe 100. We've actually had real interaction with him. He's been great. But he just doesn't like.

like when we react to some of the things he does that we haven't loved, and he'll DM us saying he's never going to work with us again, which is, you know, it is what it is. Well, then don't do those stupid things. Or we just do because that's who we are. We don't care. No, no, not y'all. Like him.

Oh, thank you. Yeah, him. I was going to say, Cole, this is our whole fucking ethos of what we were just saying for the last 10 minute. When you yell at a camera guy saying, don't ruin my, for filming you, for saying, like, he's doing his job. Like, what are you supposed to do? Literally.

But it is tough. I remember we with JT and JT is the drunk FaceTime thing that you mentioned is very funny because I think that's become part of the move now especially us like we're in this world where we know people that we never ever ever ever thought we would know and like Cole Swindell is one of mine like when I get drunk I'm with people like I'll FaceTime Cole and he always picks up and he's always great but another one was like when I go on a golf trip I was at Aaron Hills and I drunk FaceTime Justin Thomas coming down 18 because he hit the shot. He made Eagle on Saturday shot his 63, all that.

And he didn't pick up. We were right by the plaque. And then we were walking off 18, and he phacized me back. And I picked it up, told him where I was, coming off 18 at Aaron Hills. And he just goes, oh, 18 at Aaron, that hole's easy as fuck. And all the caddies and everybody were around, and they all heard that. And that's like catty lore now. They're all like, JT is the best guy ever.

He, like, facetined us back, said that this hole's like easy as shit. And everybody talks about that. So I very much related to. the MJ thing, but on JT and being in like the circle on the... Pause for one second. Sorry, I got to sign it. You got your delivery thing? Yeah. He said he had a delivery coming. I told him

it's fine because we stand up a pee in the middle of the show all the time. That's true. Yeah. Which is very accurate. You guys ever heard the term, uh, my teeth are floating? Oh my God, dude. No. But before you do, I got to leave here in a second to catch your show tonight.

You can be a couple minutes late to the show. No, but to get a ride. out of here. I got to, so that's how I have to get up. Trent, in our latest episode, which shout out to Garrett,

shout out to Jake, shout out to Brendan Jones, and shout out to who else was on that trip with us? Avery was on the trip with us. Fantastic series. It's come to an end. The Northern Michigan series is on YouTube.

Our latest episode at Bailey Farms was a great one. I mean, we introduced this game, which we could talk about a little bit more, either today or on the next show next week. Sinkhole. We played sinkhole on the beach at Lake Michigan. There are beaches on lakes, right?

Is that a dumb question? They're just because of beaches. Yeah. There's beaches on rivers. There's beaches on all kinds of stuff, right? Okay, I didn't know if it was just like, you know. I don't know if you could call a beach on a pond. Could you say that?

I would call that like a bank or something. You call it a bank? Sorry about that. Colt, can you have a beach on a bank or is it only to rivers, lakes, and oceans? I'm sorry, on a pond. A beach on a pond. A sandy area around a pond. is that considered a beach?

You call that a beach? What else are you going to call it? I think you're right. I think it's a beach. Yeah. Cole, have you ever heard the expression My teeth are floating? No.

Damn, I thought I was going to score a point there. So we have this video. It just came out on YouTube and we're sitting in the cart and he goes to himself try to go, my teeth are floating. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? He goes, oh, you never heard that. It means I have to take a piss.

First of all, the most disgusting saying of all the time your like bodies filled with urine so much that your mouth. Your mouth has so much urine in it that your teeth are floating. All your body that your teeth are floating. You use that in like in just like public vocabulary. Hey, I have so much piss in my mouth that my teeth are floating.

What the fuck are you talking about? I don't know how we got on this. It's a thing people say. For that to come from you too, Trent, like Iowan, like sweet little Trent to be filling up your mouth with urine and your teeth are floating around. I mean, when you talk it through like that, it sounds disgusting, but if you

just say my teeth are floating. I said it's a KFC last night you started gagging. He was like, that's just, just the idea. Someone said that their grandpa said, my molars are floating, and that was just too much, man. Some people, people also were saying that they say my eyeballs are floating. Let's just say you gotta take

a piss. I like the phrase. I like the phrase. Hey, Frankie, can we get some frames around those flags? I mean, oh, I know. Well, the problem is, I'm moving out of here, but the problem is that it's a slant, so like if I was to frame it'd be on like a weird angle.

I mean, I tell you're dangling. I agree. I messed up, though. I got a couple flags frame. It was crazy expensive. Yeah, framing is super expensive. What are we talking? Dude, it was like probably like two or three hundred bucks each one.

Yeah, dude, I get my jerseys, the guy signed for framing. They're 350, 400 bucks. It's fucking expensive. Dude. It'll be $10. Frank, you can't buy a house anymore. You got to buy frame. Seriously.

Cross-country mortgage, changed the loan. I don't know where we were in that interview. So this thing was sitting, this was the one that was on my desk. This is the, Tom Brady, Yeah. Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods, but next one. I took this up there to get it framed, you know, and I was like going through and they're like, yeah, we can do this one with that.

I was like, that's great. And then they rang me up after. It was like $270 or something. Yeah, it was absurd. What? You get one at Target for like 12 bucks. I believe we were talking. Oh, no, go ahead. No, you go ahead.

I was going to jump back into it. I think we were talking about Justin Thomas, and I believe Riggs was going towards that we used to have a somewhat rocky relationship with him. Yeah. Yeah, because when he had the Honda Classic, you know, you're out of here, buddy, incident. You know, we were pretty hard on him.

Dave tweeted, I think, that he should get heckled when he's buying groceries. And we were pretty hard on him that, like, for the whole year. And then we ended up having him on the show. and a few months after that, we were at the U.S. Open, and we were walking during practice round and said, he introduced me to, like, his mom was walking along with him as well. So I'm like, man, a few months ago,

we're just fucking roasting this guy all the time. Now you're here at his mom's like, oh, like, what do you do? And where you're from? And we're, like, chit-chatting about, like, restaurants they're going to go to and stuff. And so that does make it where you're not as distance from stuff as you would either, like, like, to be, or once you get on a human level,

becomes way harder to talk, but I will say we're very, we're very public and honest, I think, about the fact that, like, we're susceptible to those changes because we're just like, oh, yeah, I met his family. Like, I love that guy. We do that with every guest that comes on. I mean, I've already done that with, I've already done that with Colt. Like, I was like, fuck subpar, fuck Colt knows. I'm like, now I want to grab a beer with him.

Like, if you just come on the show, beers. And now if you come on the show and you teach us and you teach us and we probably got mad at, and then you show us that you are a human being, which you are doing. right here today. It's a simple, like, how could we not, like, change, like, we're human beings. Like, you're allowed to have different opinions and, and you're allowed to sway your opinions based off of, like, experiences. Like, I now see where you're coming from. I think, like, it's completely honest and it's completely acceptable to be able to talk shit on a golf course. It's completely acceptable to be able to give lurched, especially when he's challenging you to the

clay, and you didn't come off as much of a douchebag as the way that he explained. So I apologize for originally getting so heated and so sensitive. And I, I, I, I, I, thank you for coming on the show and clearing it up. No, dude, first off, it's an honor to be on here, but I definitely accept your apology. You know, I wanted to hate Riggs before I met him. I mean, here's the guy who's got this huge podcast. You know, we're starting this podcast. We're trying to climb up the rankings and all that and be as big as there is.

And we can't pass you bastards ever. So I wanted to hate Riggs. And then, I mean, I pretty much do hate Riggs, but I just tolerate him because he's, you know, sucked up to Connor Treyas so much that he's got his bodyguard around him at all times. Smart move, by the way. Smart. Very smart. Listen, big guys.

Have you guys ever played together? Have you in a Colt and Riggs? Oh, okay. We have out of Whistock. You know, there's a rule at Wischbrock. You're only allowed to play six times a year as a guest. Well, apparently Riggs thinks that's six times a month. He breaks it.

Since he's friends with the owner's son, he doesn't ever get in trouble for it. Colt's like the one trying to tell on me, too. He's calling like the membership director. He's like, I think this is Riggs's seventh route. You might want to check in on that. I saw something on Instagram. Colt and I were actually Cartners. We rode around together.

I think I cleaned out that day. We cleaned everybody out that day. Pretty typical around West Brock, you know. Always, it's good to see you. Cole's good to see again. I got to catch a ride to make Trent show tonight. So I got to hit the dusty trail. This is the show you're losing to in the rankings.

We got a guy who just leaves to go make a train mid-interview. Unbelievable. Let's drive you fucking crazy. I look forward to the trend show. Bye. All right. I'll see there, buddy. Goofy hats on again, too.

Yeah, I thought he put a... He laughed. How about the fact that Trent's about to go do a live show in front of like 400 screaming women in a bar. We don't know what the number is. It could be 400, it could be 1,000.

I don't know how big this place is, but he's going to walk out with a piece of luggage and all women are going to go crazy for him. That is fantastic. By the way, I have a question. How did you get that gig, Trent? The luggage guy gig? Yeah, on The Bachelor, Bachelorette.

It's a great story. I just tweeted it into existence, essentially. But like, so they have, I don't know if you want to hear the whole story, but basically, when they go, go on these two-on-one dates during the Bachelor and the Bachelorette, they wheel out the two pieces of luggage for each person that's going on the date. So when they get eliminated, they don't get the roads, the one person stays, then they have to leave. And when that person leaves,

they don't get to go back and get their luggage. They have a luggage person come in and grab it and take it away. And for the longest time, it was just like a person on the staff. Basically, anybody they could grab to go do it, would do it. And I, like, four or five years ago was like, I want to be the person who comes in and pulls the luggage. And I just tweeted about it relentlessly over and over and over again until it got into the right circle. And they were like, hey, if you can get down to Lima, Peru in the next week, you can do this. They expected me to say, no way, I'm not going to do that. I had to get a passport. I had to do all this stuff, jump through all these hoops, got the passport, went down to Lima for 30 hours, pulled the luggage,

and came back, and it was a dream come true. That's the shortened version of it. I love that that's basically what happened. That's your dream. That's his dream. Probably the most confused guy in the world right now, which is Sam Burns who just joined the show, and he has a new news who's on.

What is happening? Yeah, it's Sam. How about you text me back, you asshole? You didn't text me. Oh, I can't remember which number of your new one. Yeah, exactly. No text. What a moment.

What a moment. We have Sam Burns or Joy. We've got Coltonose of Subpar Podcast. Sam doesn't know what the fuck's going on. He just jumped in. He's got like, Shrent's talking about luggage in Peru or something. He's like,

what the, they traded lurch to subpar for me and some cash. Oh my God, I'd take that in a heartbeat. I'd give all the cash. How much cash you want? I'll sell this goddamn house. All right,

Cole. Well, everybody go check out subpar. Check out, you know, you and Slee's on Sirius. We very much appreciate it. Good luck on CBS.

And I'll probably see you like 10, So, you know, we'll figure it up. Good choice. Let me know where you need a reservation tonight. Thanks, Colt. Thanks, Colt. Appreciate it, man. See you, Sam.

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This is great. I don't even know what I'm listening to, but I'm just going to sit here. Would have been all the time if Sam actually ignored Colts text to go on his podcast and it came on here. Maybe he told him like, hey, I'm actually busy at this time.

Imagine that would happen. Like, that was pretty risky. The fact that we had another guy join on when we had a competing podcast on at the same time. Yeah, I didn't know the hopping on two minutes early was going to be just going to hop into Trent rambling on about something in Peru. I was the luggage guy on The Bachelor.

That's never happened before, by the way, which is incredible. New Bachelor guy by chance? Yes. 100%. Are you really? Yeah. Did you watch Bachelor in Paradise? Yep.

what do you think about Joe and Serena I haven't watched I haven't watched last night's Okay Now I won't spoil anything for you Say no more Okay But it's beautiful

And their love is beautiful Don't be a spoiler right now Trent I figured that you might be Because I know Boys with Scotty Shefford And Schaefford and Trent go into Batchewart talk Like their old friends from 1995

Yeah We uh Where was that I think it was Memphis We had a house and that was when Greg and whatever her name was. Oh, what was Greg on? What was her name?

Katie. Katie. And Scotty and I were just like screw her. Like Greg's our king. Like we got Greg's back. Yeah, he had a tough exit. Yeah, that was brutal. So what's up, man?

You just won, you know, on the PJ door. And now you're rolling right into Vegas. Imagine life's pretty good right now. Yeah, I had a tough morning. I took the check and took it on red and lost. Trying to get over that. It's wild Wednesday. It's been good.

Yeah, last week was fun. Playing close to home, which was always nice. So it was cool to have some family and friends there. And obviously played well, just made it even better. I mean, now you're just winning on the PGA tour. So you got in 2021, now you got two wins. It's got to be worth a wraparound season now.

It's got to be real, almost like, relieving to kick off the year with the W because it just makes everything for the next year way easier. Yeah, for sure. I mean, that's the thing. Like, when you have the wraparound season, you've got to play in the fall because there's so many events now. You wait until January to play you're so far behind. So it's nice to start the year off.

like that and you don't feel like you're going to get behind and you can kind of pick your schedule and go from there. Yeah, I remember Rory. I feel like a few years ago, Rory said that he just, he had to start playing or mix in an event or two in the fall because when he would start in January, he was so far behind that he get screwed. Yeah, like if you didn't win around the bat or play really well, you're just, you're way down the list.

So I got to ask you, because when you were in New York at Liberty National for the, the Northern Trust. Again, I noticed you were with Scotty. You guys had your little crew. I believe you guys did some pizza reviews downtown. Is that right? Oh, yeah. We got our very own pizza boy right here,

Frankie Borelli. So we want to kind of hear which ones you tried out, which ones you reviewed. You guys hit all the favorites. You guys went to, you guys went to Johns Bleaker, right? Yep. Went to sauce?

Yep. What's the one right around the corner from John's? Joe's Joe's we went to Joe's I'll say right around the corner There's probably 15 right around the corner from there Yeah that bleaker street area is insanity What was your favorite?

Like were you guys like getting full pies Are you getting slices? We got so after the U.S. Open We took a red eye to New York For Scotty's birthday Before Hartford And that's when we first had Johns And we were like

Wow this is insane Like unbelievable So we go to Hartford, we play. We end up back in New York for New Jersey for the playoff event. And we go to dinner, like one of the first nights we were there. We go into the city for dinner. Scali and are sitting there looking at the menu and like almost the same time. We're like, dude, I wonder how far John is from here.

And so we look it up. It's like a seven-minute walk and we're like, well, let's just get a little bit of food here and then let's just get a crusher product, John. So we did that like literally three or four times that week. and then we went to Joe's which was good but I don't know something about John's it's just oh yeah it's unbelievable you got to sit down you got to get it there you sit in those old wooden boots and it comes out piping hot on that and you're still trying to eat it yeah you're still trying to eat it no man it's there's there's really no better pizza eating experience in

New York City than eating at John's Bleaker Street do you guys do that in every city you go to or is like New York a special trip that you guys usually pack into your schedule? New York is kind of on its own in that aspect. But like me and my wife and Scotty and his wife, we went to dinner last night. At catch, we're staying at the area right in the hotel. And so like this week we'll just crush all the restaurants. But like it works out well because my wife and my wife and Scotty's wife are like best friends.

And so we go to dinner with them a bunch. We're all foodies, so try to go to the best spots. Yeah, is that a big move restaurants, basically? Because, I mean, you guys are trying to be so much. You're just trying to always check out all the restaurants. Yeah, we always try to find the best spots. And my brother-in-law kind of does food blogging stuff on the side just for fun. And so, like, he'll always send us these restaurants to try out.

It's a miracle I'm not 300 pounds. Right, I was going to say it's kind of tough to, like, be a professional athlete and then like baking all of these like pizzas and like like like try you're going to get like desserts and stuff like and then you're going to knock it out yeah try to knock it out early in the week so by like Thursday we're like all right I'll try to eat a little more clean now get the carb loading done yeah what's your what's your routine on a on a week to week basis I mean you're still you're obviously a younger younger guy out on tour you're 25 it's only been a few years some guys I know go in pretty late. They know the course is really well. They've been playing there for decades. You know, what's your kind of preparation routine usually look like? Yeah. It's a little different week to week, but mostly the same. Like Mondays is usually when I'll do like, if I'll have like a heavy lift that week, I'll do it Monday, won't play any golf. Tuesday I'll typically play nine, whatever night.

I'm not playing Wednesday in the program. Practice that day. That's probably like the like the hardest day, like a practice just. of the most stuff. And then Wednesday, like this morning, I had a 640 program time. So I got out here pretty early. Played that nine practice till 11.30, had a little lunch. And then I'm done for the day. So kind of doll it back on Wednesday just to try to get rested and recovered for tomorrow.

What's your, do you have any preference on Thursday, Friday, T times? They're like a better draw generally that you just like? If any, I would say, I prefer. prefer late early just because like sometimes it's tough and you go out Thursday morning and you don't play well and then you don't see off again until Friday afternoon you're you could be 13 shots back before you can see all Friday and that's not really a good feeling um so I typically would prefer late early if I had to choose it's always that's interesting to me because you hear I don't know you don't get enough of it you don't and as a viewer you don't really think a ton about it like

you don't you know because you just don't really notice you're like oh yeah he played whatever. He's got to play when he played. Let's just say I go out and shoot even part Thursday morning. He got afternoon shoots seven. He tees off Friday morning and shoots five. He's at 12. And before I even tee off, I'm 12 shots back.

And you're like, well, I guess I got to go and make some birdies. So that can be a little jerky, but. What about groupings? Is it a matter to usually, like, who you're playing with? I know your feature group this week. I believe you're with Brooks and A. Yeah, I mean, there's obviously you know certain uh people that you enjoy playing with more than others like

when guys are really slow that bothers me um it's just like sometimes you see guys that are last a hit and two other guys have hit and they don't start figuring out what they're doing until then i'm like what have you been doing for the last five minutes like you had time to get the yardage you had time to talk to your caddy time time to pick a club like your ball should be in the air when my ball lands. So that bothers me a lot. If you want to name some names, you're free to say whatever you want to set on the show.

I'm sure people, I'm sure people know the slow guys out here. I think they know, yeah. You ever say anything to them? You ever just walk by? Okay, buddy, maybe it's just, let's fucking pick it up out there. A lot of times I'll just kind of like walk ahead

and just like they can obviously tell that like I'm rushing them. To be Sam, stop walking, Sam? Sam's top line. But like when a rules official comes over there and it's like, hey guys, we're putting it on the clock. I'm like, why are you putting us on the clock? You need to put that guy on the clock. So then, like, you don't want to have that happening. Then the whole group has to rush.

And it's just shit show after that. Are there ever any, like, things set under the breath and then someone hears like, what was, like, you know, like, are you guys ever, like, getting chippy out there? Or do you try and just? I think, I think it's the U.S. Open. they put the mics in the cups. And I remember it was at Shinnock a few years ago. I was playing like missed a pot or whatever and said something. And I didn't say anything bad, but I didn't realize there was microphones in the cup.

And somebody had texted me after. I was like, hey, man, glad you didn't say anything bad. I heard everything you said after you missed that pot. So you got to watch out for that. Got to watch those hot mics. Totally. J-Ten is all about that. Yeah, no, it's, we've, like,

I think that we all agreed, like, when that happened, that it's crazy that, like, I mean. It's not, it's just, it's not right. Like, most sports, you know, like, you don't have, like, imagine if you had a microphone that dug out of a baseball game? I mean, they had one on the other day with that pitcher Robbie Ray of the Blue Jays

going back and forth with their head coach of the Orioles, and the stuff they were saying was insane. Like, I mean, they were cursing each other out, calling each other fucking pieces of shit. pitch the fucking ball. He's like, you shut the fuck up. Like, that's just, that's the, that's just for one second the mic just happened to be on. Imagine the last hundred years. Oh, I mean, there's not, I mean, there's not telling what's been said.

Like, people knew everything that was said in sports, just in general. It would be, for the same time. You knew what was said in, uh, in an office building or, uh, at an insurance company, at a doctor's office. It's the same thing everywhere. It's life. It's life. Why do we always say, like, sports are not allowed to be life? That's the part that drives me crazy.

It's life. It's a job. They're, they're human beings. Are they not? I get like, you guys are role models and like there's all that stuff, but you're allowed to be a human. Yeah, for sure. And the thing that, like, sets a bad example is like, oh, if you're going to be a whatever, a pitcher in the MLB, you have to act a certain way. You can't say this and that. It's like, you're setting a bad example for these kids. They're like, oh, I can't be myself. I have to, you know, act a certain way. Well, obviously, you want to set a good example and all that. But I mean, you've got to be real too. Yeah, they can't, like, go out and try and get you guys.

That's, like, that's what's not. It's like, the mics inside the holes are a little tough. Yeah, you've got to protect the guys. Yeah. So aside from golf, like, you, like, watch a lot of sports. I know LSU guy, so, I mean, I'm sure, obviously, college football is massive for you. Yeah, it's massive.

It's been tough. It's been a hard, hard last year and a half watching our team. It's hard for me to understand how, what the team we had two years ago to what is going on now. It just doesn't really make sense. Like we had probably arguably one of the greatest football, college football teams of all time to now we're going to go four and seven or four, whatever.

I mean, how does that happen that fast? Yeah. No, yeah. You look at a team like Alabama that's able to have like the sustained success. And we have our producer, Jake Bass, over here is probably just massaging himself underneath the table right now. Coming himself.

We talk well highly about Alabama, but it is amazing when you see these. I mean, it's not like a shot, like it's not like a shooting star team when he's talking about LSU, but like your, well, that team was dominant. They were, they had star power. They had national celebrity status type players. And then all of a sudden it's like no one's even thinking about them. It's amazing how fast I can fall off, especially in like a recruitment type sport. When you think about it too, like,

Think of how many, like, assistant save and loses, like coaching staff every year. There's so much turnover. Those guys are getting offered, had coaching jobs, and OCs, and all over the place, and they're still just to maintain the level they do. It's really impressive. Jake, what do you think about this? You like this? I am ecstatic.

Jake, what would you say is wrong with LSU if you had to give your input as an Alabama diehard? I just don't think coach. chose a good coach. Like, I think he's a good recruiter and he had, like, one of the best teams ever. But, like, for anyone to say that he shouldn't be fired, like, Gene Chisick won a national championship and then was fired, like, a season and a half later, like, LSU is like a premier school. They're going to get their guys.

And, like, at the end of the day, like, they have the four and the five stars and, like, those kind of players. But if you don't have a leader of men, like a Nick Saban or, like, a coach smart, or, like, you know, or, you know. Think guys like that. Does anyone know how many rushing yards we had in the first half against Alder? No. Negative five.

You're going to want that number to be higher, Sam. That just doesn't get it down. It's got to go the other way, actually. Correct. So that was tough. Does that affect you? Because you are, I mean, you're born in Louisiana. Does that affect you, like, during college football season?

Do you notice that, like, you're, you're, Yes, 100%. Like on the, you think it affects you on the golf course? Because, like, that would happen to me. I'm such a big New York Islanders fan. It affects my life and everything else I do. Like, it bleeds into my life. Yeah, I mean, especially like I'm out there, Travis, my caddy,

and we're talking about, that's pretty much most of what we talk about on the golf course. It's football right now. And I'll just start going down this rabbit hole of, like, what I think we need to do, why are we, what's going on? And next thing I know, I'm like, oh, I've got to hit this shot. What we got it again, how far? Right. But yeah, something's got to change.

I think it might be working for your golf game because obviously things are going well right now. It keeps you distracted a little bit, maybe. Not that they're playing poorly, but just the game of college football in general. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think it was a few years ago, whenever I think it was 2019, we were really good.

I remember I was playing on a Saturday. I was playing terrible. I was in like 60th. So I go out early, and I think we have 11 o'clock game, I see off of like nine or whatever. So I make the turn and I'm like, all right, kickoff about the start. I get my phone out, get my ESPN up, and I just put it in my yard.

Put my phone in my yard, go and just watch the whole first half because I was playing the back now. That's so good. That's great. See, that's so like for a fan, right, that's almost incomprehensible. It's like that guy, that person when they're inside the ropes is off-coms. Like, they are not on the radar. Yeah, they're probably like, this guy's insane. 60th place and look how hard he's studying his yardage book.

What is he doing? First down, yes. Yeah, yeah. Let's go. He just threw his yardage book on the ground. What's wrong with it? That's really fun. That's good.

It's good that you're that into it. I mean, that's, you know, that's, you know, that's a fan. That's why you get it. Oh, by the way, as a fan, I have to credit you. I know you don't care about this stuff, but I woke up Saturday morning, saw you were, I think, three shots back. You were a name that stuck. out to me so I threw like

250 bucks or something on you. I think it was 8 to 1 and obviously you won the tournament so he made me a little bit of coin. Oh wow. Congratulations. I'm a success. There's nothing professional athlete Right. I was going to say that's a dangerous path to go down because there's nothing professional athletes care less about. Your bets or your fantasy team.

Fantasy. Fantasy clearly but I just thought you always think as a fan that the guy's going to be like oh I'm happy that I like won you some money like I don't give a fuck about that. It doesn't care. No, the best is when you're out there playing, like, in the tournament. And a guy yells out like, here we go, Sam, I got you on my fantasy this week.

I'm going to be like, like, why would you tell me that? Like, you think I really honestly care that I'm on your fantasy team? Like, that's going to make me go out and play harder, you think? Like, all right, all right, now I'll start playing. Oh, man. Yeah, all right, I'm going to go make this part for that guy over there. Right, that was the motivation you needed to get the ball in the hole was that guy saying, that he had you in his like $1.1.

Yeah. Yes. I guess in my warped brain, I thought you would accept it as like, oh, wow, like Riggs really had a lot of faith in me. Riggs, I appreciate your support. That means a lot. You had confidence in me.

Right. Like, after the fact, it is, it is a sign of support. I mean, that's all it is. Yeah, it's not like he told you the Sunday morning, like, hey, you better go fucking do this. I just put $200,000 on you. And he didn't fade me, so that's always nice.

Right. Well, he didn't tell you when he fades you. I think I should fade myself, though, to this point in college football. Great. Yeah, no shit. So, you think, spreading with my heart this year is not going well. Trifecta nutrition.

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so like you have the biggest game of the year and you just bet on the opposing team? Because regardless of what happens. It's a win-win. It's a win-win. You can't lose. If you're that big, if you're so emotionally invested that a win means something to you in that life, then why not? Go to the

Barso's a great sport and put money down on the other team. It's a great point. It really is. It really is a great point. I just can't do it. Like last year against a tag of lightning, I could have done it. Game six, like,

game seven, I'm sorry. I could have done it. Like, no matter what happened, I would have won, and I didn't. Because you feel like you're doing something.

Yeah, you go to hit, like, submit and your finger just will not let you click the button. Exactly. Yeah. But I want to make hedging happiness like a thing.

I want to, I want people to be okay with it because it, because there's only a certain amount of people that can do it. That can actually, like, rationalize losing money, to win the game. So I've got Iowa Penn State

coming up this weekend. So number three and number four teams in the country. Like I want to be happy regardless. Obviously, I would love it if Iowa won. But you're saying, then I just put money on Penn State and then I'm happy regardless. Right.

You put a wager on Penn State. Penn State wins. You're fucking so sad. You're so mad that your team lost. And then you check your account and you're up significant amounts of money because you just happen to place this wager. There's something dirty about it, though.

Right. Definitely. Right. Right. What if the other team wins and they don't cover? Well, then. Then, Yeah,

you're going a long walk, Sam. You're going a long walk. That's what happens from then. I think, Frankie, I think you love the name hedging, hedging your happiness so much that you're trying to make it work. Because it's like a catch-in-name.

I don't think it needs to try and where I think it works. You just have to be able to have the balls of steel to, just do it and then throw your phone away. Be like, Frankie, I get on board with it. I love it. Thank you, Sam. I'm going to do it this year. I'll, I'll be in, I'm going to watch the game in Jersey, so maybe I'll do it for Iowa this weekend.

Trent, it reminds me of when Dave used to always go in on us for being the boondoggle boys, and finally we just said to him, like, I think you just love the word boondoggle. And he was like, I do like the word boondoggle a lot. So he would just say it all the time. Right, we were caught on that for a long time. Forever. This hurts me to tell me I should have hedged my happiness last night because the Yankees lost of the Red Sox, but I don't think Dave,

speaking of Dave, speaking of Dave Fortnight, I don't think Dave has ever loved anything more than the John Sterling call. Have you guys seen this last night? Oh, yeah. He played it 150 times. It's a 25 second clip. He played it 150 times. Have you heard this, Sam? This call last night?

Oh, my God. So the Yankees have... I know Scott had the Yankees last night. Oh, dude, the Yankees have this old school announcer that does all these things. It's a text message. to right field from Tashara and like all these ridiculous things. And last night, John Carl Staten hits one. It looked like it went to the moon.

It looked like it went to Rhode Island from home plate at FMway Park. We all jumped up on stream. We went crazy. Turns out the ball hits the fucking bottom of the wall. It didn't even come close. Didn't even hit the halfway point of the green monster. And, you know, we're all, everyone's ragging on us for thinking it's a home run. And John Sterling, the clip comes out like 10 minutes later on Twitter.

He does this announcement. I wish I could actually play it for you just how funny it is. He goes, that ball is hit. It's gone. A Stantonian home run to left field. And, bro, the ball's already at second base. And then he goes, now hold on a second. What did I do wrong?

And he couldn't believe what happened. I have to pull up this clip. You're going to love this. It's... The pitch to Stanton. There goes. Deep left. It is high.

That is far. That is God. Out of the ballpark. A Stantonian home run. Now, what did I do wrong? What did I see wrong? He's at first base. Wow.

It's as wrong of a call as you can possibly have. I don't know if I've ever seen anything like it. I just had to get that in because I want to talk about it on the pod today. It's so all time. Sorry about your Yankees there, Frankie. Sorry about your Yankees. I know. Do you care about it again?

Like the sports betting Going to affect golf at all? Sam, like do you care? Is it going to affect anything in your guys' lives? Like people being more rowdy, yelling shit at you or no? I think the only thing, the only place it could come into like,

it can be trouble is when like live betting a hole and the person's out there. And I mean, for them to win 100 bucks and for them to yell at me to hit in the water or something as I'm hitting, like, they're going to do that. Why would they not? They can win their bet? Like, they don't

mean, they don't care. They're going to win their bet and they can get kicked out at leave. So, like, but at the end of the day, it's like, all right, how do we, like, I'm all for it. I think it's awesome. It's great for golf. It's just great in general. How do we protect, like, the guys

out here from stuff like that happening? I will say, because the fairway, non-fairway bets and, like, Greens and Regulation are the best ones in golf. So, like, that will end up taking golf to the next level. Like when we watch the Masters, like, we, that's all we did. We went to the Barst & Sports Bookhouse, and we bet every single fairway hit or not hit

from, like, Dustin Johnson the whole way in. And, like, yeah, like, yeah, I agree that it has, well, what they do is they do it like a couple holes in advance, right, Riggs? Is that, like, kind of how they were doing it? So it's not so instantaneous. Yeah, but I think they're going to try to do it more real time. I think that was more just a delay and, like, the, yeah. But how awesome also is that, like, you're sitting there and you've got DJ

to hit the fairway on 10, and, and, you've got DJ did it hit the fairway on 10, And as soon as he hits it, it picks up the tea or something, and you just like, you're like, yes, I'm so critical. It is the most fun. It's so thrilling. I'd say of anything that we've done, like doing that live stream at the Barstles Sportsbook house in Philly with those fairways was the most fun we've had in a very long time.

Well, here's the problem here, Sam, is we have these guys on tour, and I don't know if you're one of them, but they do these premature twirls, right? You hit a fucking shot at a green. Maybe you have greener regulation bet on the sportsbook, and I see Jordan Speed. Okay.

All right. Well, what about the other way around when Hadeki drops his club? Do you go automatically celebrate because you know it's still going to be good? Yeah. Right. Right. Right. We can't have these reactions.

It's got to be, it has to be the thing. It's got to be tight. Uniform. We need uniform reactions. Or when a guy, just as soon as he hits it, just gives it the, the worst feeling in the world. Hits a tree and bounces back in the favorite. Oh, yeah. That happened at the Masters with like DJ did that.

We all lost our minds. Yeah. We had a, we had, I forget what hole it was. I think it was like 13 or 14, but we had at Augusta, we had a Tiger Woods to hit the green regulation. And for 25 minutes, we were all debating. And the sports book was debating if it was on the collar, if it was on the, like, it was on the fringe or if it was on the green.

Like the master's app had said it wasn't, what was the reasoning rigs? The master's app had said it was the 11th hole at Augusta. Oh, it was 11. And we did that he would have a green in regulation on 11. So we were like, we all bet that he wouldn't because it's 11. We were like, he has two options to not, basically. If it's a shitty T shot, he's like less likely to hit the green. And if he just, whatever.

And so we bet no. And then his ball was like right up on the edge. And I noticed that he didn't mark his ball and clean it. That was the thing. That was the thing. But like you can't explain that to someone necessarily who's not into like golf. Right. And I was like, this is the fact.

The fact is it wasn't on the green because Tiger Woods did not clean his ball. He would always mark and clean his ball. Always. 100%. Always. And they ruled it as a green in regulation. And then we literally were like, it was with Penn National who fucking owns us and runs the sports book. Yeah.

And we were like, Dave Portoy had probably had 50 grand on it or something ridiculous. And he literally was like calling them being like, I will burn this place to the ground. Oh, that's a bad deed. And they ended up like an hour later, I think they ended up changing it. But like, because yeah, on the Masters app too, it had it that it was like on the green. And we were just losing their minds. There's no way a guy's not going to mark his ball on the green. Never going to happen.

Right. Zero chance. 7,000 over par. Yeah, he's watching. He's watching the LSU on his phone. Yeah, exactly. Who would do that? When you're 7,000 over par in a tournament,

and you have no chance of winning it and maybe you have no chance of making the cut. Like, how checked out are you? Are you trying to find it or are you just want to get off the course? Yeah, I feel like for me it's like, you don't want to like disrespect the game, right? You don't want to just be that guy

who just mails it in and acts like a little just kid out there. So, I mean, I still try to, you know, you never know in golf like one swing if you're just going to find it. Like that's happened. I've been missing. They cut about five or six shots and try something different and it works. And you're like, huh, you know, they may have something here.

And then, you know, make a couple of parties. You still miss a cup. And then you have a great week the next week. So, like, if you do that, you're just, you're lessening the chances of that happening. It's always try to at least give myself the best chance. Yeah, not like that guy that we interviewed a couple years ago that tried to shoot the 200 and, what do you shoot at 202? Mr. 202. Trey.

I saw Trey. Trey. You ever done that? No, I've gotten close. Close. Close. We're in the other direction now, Sam. How many times you've broken 100 now?

Twice. Let's go. Hell yeah, brother. Dude, I watched every one of those. I mean, it was great, but sometimes I just have to look away. I get that review from a lot of people. The potting, dude. The potting dude.

It just, like, whenever he would hit in the bunker, I was just like, I know what's about to happen. I can't watch it. I can't watch him do this again. Did you know that there was going to be a nightmare just like looking at a setup? Like were you able to tell like as he's approached the shot like no chances is getting out Yeah damn you had the club face so square like if you didn't just somehow magically catch the Perfect amount of sand and not thin it it wouldn't coming out man I could have used you at Rockville

links on the oh man I watched that one I watched that one is that the one you went ping pong yep yep that was tough actually like 104 and he made a 11 on on the fifth hole. 110-yard hole. She couldn't get it in the hole. I appreciate you watching, though. What are your thoughts for Trent Daddy as he approaches breaking 90 now?

Like, what is, do you have any thoughts on how he could do it? Well, I think first off, like, you knock out all the four putts, no four putts, and just be able to get it out of the bunker on the first shot on the green. You don't even hit it close.

You get 30 feet, 40 feet, and then if you can three-putt it, I mean, you're going to make a six instead of a eight. I do need a surefire way to get out of a bunker. Like right now I still all stand in a bunker. You've seen those infomercials. How you can order one of those? I could do that.

Oh, yeah, dude. Like the dinner plate fucking thing that they got? Yeah. I think, honestly, like, you just got to, like, get in there and get comfortable and just practice different things. Like, not everything. No, everybody does the same thing out of a bunker, but everybody has a way. way that works for them. That is true.

Getting comfortable is obviously a huge part of it, but we've talked about on this show before where if I just go, and it's harder in New York City to get somewhere and practice just your bunker shots, but if you do and if you can, if you hit, however many you hit, that's more bunker shots than you're going to hit in the next six to eight months. So you're so uncomfortable in there is because you're never in there

and you never practice it. And then when you get in there, you're like, this feels extremely foreign to me. Yeah. Well, and you've got a lot of scars now from it. So it doesn't help.

So much scar tissue. But I mean, literally, five minutes. Like, if you just did it for five minutes, it's not like you have to go hit hunger shots for an hour. It's like five minutes. When you say, get comfortable for me, like, we were out of bandin. And I was hitting the wedges like I always do.

And Lurch finally looked at me and goes, why don't you just forget everything anyone's ever told you and just do one time what feels comfortable? Like, who cares if it's not? Yeah. Like, functionally and, like, like, you know what I mean? Like it's not technically the right way. And I just started like nipping wedges.

I was like, yeah, I'm going to do it incorrectly, but I'm going to feel comfortable. And like, I was like, I don't think I've attempted that in two to three years. Every time I've hit a wedge that, I've tried to do someone else's technique and form. Sling or swing. Swing your swing. It's really fun. Like golf is so interesting in the fact that like a lot of times what you're feeling

and what you're actually doing can be totally different. It's like somebody, you tell us somebody. somebody like, hey, you're taking it way inside. They're trying to feel like they're taking it outside and they're still taking it inside. It's hard for your brain to comprehend. It's like, oh, I'm trying to take it outside, but you're still just taking it dead inside. And just the feel on what's real is fully different. Yeah, I learned that when I was working with Tilleri for the first time in his bay and he's got all the cameras on you.

And he was like, all right, do a half swing. And I would do what I thought was a half swing. He was like, that was a full swing. And I was like, it felt like a half swing. He's like, it's a full swing. And you just learn. You don't know that if you don't see. see it. Right. So much different. That's a lot of stuff. Is golf still fun for you? Like on,

are you able to just like drink beers? Oh yeah. With your buddies? Yeah, for sure. I mean, like for me, I try to, like whenever I'm home, like I'll try to get away from it for a few days. And then I'll just go play with buddies and just kind of mess around and, you know, have a couple of cocktails or something and just take it easy. It can be, you know, you know, You're out here and you're three or four weeks in a row and you're just grinding and then you go home. You don't really want to continue to grind on it for another week. So try to get away and I like to hunt and fish a lot. So I'll put my clubs up for a while and get away from it.

November, you're probably, you're probably take a few weeks off and do a little hunting in November. Yeah, I'm playing this week and next week and then I'll have three weeks off. So I'll be in a tree somewhere. It's fine. Oh, yeah. Nobody watching. That's got to be, that's got to be really nice.

No hot mics out there. No. They'd fucking blow that thing up if there's a hot mic. Exactly. What do you get from hunting? I've never gone hunting. So like, what would be your selling point to me as to why I should, like,

go hunting? What makes it so much fun? I think one of the reasons that I love it is because, I think it's part of it's because, like, being out here and you're just around people and in front of people and entertaining people and all that and then I get to go out there and just be by myself like it's quiet like you're just in nature like get to watch the sun and rise in the morning and I don't know it's just it's so relaxing and so peaceful to me um and there's something about this like like I like to practice

and shoot my bow a lot and like getting out there and having a chance of having a big deer walk out or you just never know you just don't know you never know it's coming um that that's one of the reasons i love it because i don't know i grew up doing it was something i did with my dad as a kid and so yeah no i listen to a lot of rogan and he says like when you do it when you go out there for the first time it's like some part of you being a human yeah like gets like like switched on like you've never done it before like us i humans, that's like how we're like built. That's why we're built is to like, like,

reproduce and like make our own food. It's like that's like that's why we are humans. That's why we're here. I mean, I'm not going to get into a whole fucking talk about like, the universe and the brains and why we're here. I mean, think that are like our ancestors from a long time. Oh yeah.

Let's go. They had to hunt for the food. Like, so some of that's still in us. It is in us. Yeah, absolutely. So it is interesting. Like I always, it's not like like I shit on it, but I've always, I'm an. inside guy. So I wonder if I ever went if something would like click in me and be like,

oh wow, like my human nature like wants to fucking do this right now. Like I want to catch you. You ever come to Louisiana. Let me know. All right. I got you. So I'll say Frankie like my, my dad's a big like he's on the farm all the time. He's a big hunter and fisherman in Missouri his whole life. And he loves animals more than anything in the world. And that was always I can see people being like that's counterintuitive. Like you hunt, you love animals. But he like puts out salt licks and stuff for the deer and he's always like he works with the Missouri Conservation Department to like better the environment and the lives for animals and then a big part of hunting I haven't hunted since I was a kid but kind of like Sam was saying where

you get up crazy early at like three or four in the morning you walk out there and you got to be as quiet as you possibly can you're tiptoeing through and then you sit there for like an hour even before the sun comes up and then you're part of the world basically like awakening and like things start to make noises things start to kind of creep around and you don't know exactly what it is, is that a deer, is that a squirrel? And then when the thing that you're actually hunting, if you're deer hunting, whatever, like, when one actually appears, like, you've been there for hours and you've done all this bullshit to get out there.

And now the thing is, like, happening in front of you. And it's so exciting. It's, like, such a thrill. And then it's like, I don't want to fuck it up. Like, if you're jittery or whatever, and you, you know. So it's very much a thrill that you kind of build up towards. And I think there's something else, too, like about eating, like, the food that you actually harvested yourself.

Like, that's pretty cool. Definitely. Definitely. I mean, I eat Chipotle every day, and like, I don't get that feeling. You know, someone... Yeah, you didn't go get the chicken or whatever it was. If it was chicken, who knows? By the way, chicken, what was the trophy?

What a trophy you won had? Sanderson Farms. What was that trophy? What was on there? Big old rooster. Big old rooster was on there. That's a cool trophy. Yeah.

Pretty excited. They're going to ship it to the house. until Carolina said are we going to put this on the like the dining room table or where are we going to put this guy? I like that they ship it to you so you don't have to worry about breaking it on your travels home. You see all these other things like that like Morikawa would like put his, didn't he put the claret drug on?

Yeah, and like a, they had some kind of like hard suitcase or something for it. He put it. He had his carry on like United Airlines. It was like nuts. You 100% know that some guy had no idea who was. who's this jackass taking up all the space and the overhead. Yeah.

You're supposed to put it sideways. Could you check this, please? Exactly. We're going to have to orange tag that if you could bring that up to the front. It's like, actually you're not touching this. Yeah, you can wait in line, wait in the 30-minute line to get your checked bag. Yeah. I love when they always ask, like, if you'd like to volunteer to come check your bag,

you can sit first and, like, no one goes up there. Yeah, like, no, am I doing that? Have you ever even thought about it? I mean, I don't know if you've even been in the situation, Sam, but you ever been on a flight and, like, they start raffling off, like, money to people to say, like, if you don't want to take this flight, we'll give you cash. Have you guys ever seen that trend? Like the vouchers.

They'll give you a thousand-dollar vouchers if you sit out this flight. Oh, my God, dude. I was in Vegas after one of Dave's birthday excopades, and I remember he flew somewhere else, and I was by myself. And the number got up to, like, $1,400. And I'm like, should I take this fucking thing

and just spend one, like just spend it one more night in Vegas? The problem is that they give it to you in like airline credit, right? If it was cash, I think everyone would be going up there, especially in Vegas, people would be running up there.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah. They would save a lot of money because they'd be like 150 bucks. Yeah, I was like that. Right. Right. Yeah, that guy's never using that again.

Yeah. No, under no circumstances. So it is Wad Wednesday as we're recording. Do you like, are you like rapidly updating your bank app or something when this $1.26 million that you just one comes in? How's that work? It always comes Wednesday morning. So yes, I did see that it had hit my account.

I was going to say, that's the look of a guy who's already got it. It is confirmed. that's awesome what a cool thing all the stupid things the pGA tour does that's such a they should promote that like that should be there should be a tv show around wad wednesdays like the whole show is just you getting the notification because i love that idea like the fact that you guys are just getting it wired to your account on one day is so good they asked me in jackson last week they had a like one of the happy gomore checks they're like do you want to take this i'm like i mean what i'd like take this to my bank and like go through the

draft through and be like hey could you put this in my account like what how is that going to work you're like what is this what is this massive check you're bringing me like no you're trying to get it around like there's like a glass divider and you're trying to get over to the purse yeah just send that right to my account if you would actually yeah you get the little thing you shoot it up the deal and it goes to him like hey this one's putting your uh put in the little holster amazing well congratulations that's awesome thank you you appreciate it and more congratulations to me sure yeah definitely a couple less

zero on the exact same but it's oh yeah yep totally um all right sam

well we appreciate it we appreciate you taking the time gearing up for a tournament even though you just said you're done for the day you're probably just going were you eating tonight eating somewhere cool in Vegas tonight

oh yeah we're uh we're going to carbone tonight us in the shufflers carbone's love favorite yeah scotty and I were saying it worked out well that we have late Tons tomorrow

so we can just literally eat so much pasta that we're just sleep till like 10 tomorrow. It'd be great. Yeah, what do they got their rigatoni there, I think is unbelievable. Yes. Spicy rigatoni. Spicy rigatoni. Insane.

It's insane. It's insane. The one of the year today is nearly impossible to get into. Really? Yeah, that's what I heard. I remember Dave had like just got started going, getting in. Like I remember I went in once with my buddy Axorod. and I remember coming back home,

coming back to work with Dave, I'm like, yeah, I went to Carbone. He's like, I haven't even gotten invited to Carbone. Like, it's so hard to get in there. But then the one in Vegas is like you just walk in. Yeah. Have you ever been to a, do you all like dumplings? Like soup dumplings and all that?

I fuck with dumplings. Yeah. There's a place called Dentai Fung. Have you heard of that? No. They just opened one in the Aria. And we always go to the one at, there's one at Tori, like right by the golf.

of course. Really? So we're going to hit that this week. Yeah, it's really good. I just broke that down. If you like dumplings, I mean, some people don't. I like the types of dumplings, pork dumplings. Yes.

Yeah, it's legit. Oh, wow. I like this going a little bit. All right. You just got Trent excited, man. Trent's like. I like dumplings. I mean, come on.

Who doesn't like dumplings? Yeah, exactly. What's your favorite food, Sam? Uh, oh. well I love sushi yeah at down points

um you like the real sushi like sushi like the whole thing yeah I mean when it's when it's like the good stuff

you know um but like I would be lying if I didn't say I love just like a really good steak potatoes too would that be your last meal

like death death row yeah just give me like a fat riba and like some buttery mashed potatoes and let me go to work.

What do you have for drink? Probably bourbon. I had to pick one. My boys are coming into town tomorrow where we're going to play golf for a few days. They asked, I said any liquor request. They said bourbon, but like not blend. So what's like a good, what should I go pick up? Anybody got any advice?

Just like a good, like a really good, not crazy expensive. Good bourbons like wood for reserve. That was like the only one I knew, I feel like was Woodford. Yeah, that's good. Like, that's good stuff. And if you wanted to go, like, pretty, pretty nice stuff, go Blantons. Blantz. Maybe I was surprised him.

I got my winnings from Sam Burns. So maybe I'll go get some bland. Blends. It's tough to find, though. But knowing you, you'll probably, you'll probably be able to get your hands on it. All right. So a nice fatty steak with some mashed potatoes and a bourbon last meal for Sam Burns. Mm-hmm.

I think it's strong It's your favorite appetizer Get your favorite color prepared It's going to be purple It's got to be purple, right? Depends 2019 it was I don't know

I don't know favorite appetizer I think that's a hard question I want to take that one back There's too many options right It's so many It's your favorite appetizer Who the fuck asked somebody at? Well, I wanted to get the whole meal.

If I'm going to serve this guy like a three-course meal because then I was going to ask what's your favorite dessert? Like what's your like all-time last meal? Sit you down. Then at the end I'm putting a bullet in your head. I'll say what. The hot cookies and cream cookie from Chip City is wow. Try and put your pants on.

No, I was going to say that was so specific that I know it's good. When you have that down and that ready, it's like I've never had that, but now I know that it's good. you have to I mean it will change your life are you a big sweet guy after you eat a John's pie and then walk right down the street

you can get a hot cookies and cream Chip City cookie Oh my gosh So you have a big sweet tooth huh I'm writing that down right now Oh yeah big time I think athletes low-key have like the biggest sweet tooth I know a lot of like all my hockey friends

These guys all are like Brock Nelson will Probably like every time I see this guy's eating like a crazy donut or or like sending me an ice cream. I'm like, you ever eat anything healthy? But then you guys are like the healthiest,

like you guys are always working out. Right, they burn it off in no time. Trent and I eat it and we just get tits. Or moon face. Moon face. Moon face. I got nothing else. I got nothing out.

No other questions for you. That's your favorite form of execution. Any thoughts? How do you want us to do it? How do you want us to do it? I just put a book. right in the back here. Like an electric chair guy?

Or what do you think? No, I'm going to let you look out the rabbits. You don't even know what happened. There you go. That's good. Larry? Is that the guy's name? Larry?

No, it's Lenny and George. Lenny. Lenny. We're going dark quick. Holy shit. That's not a comment on this show, amazingly. We'd be talking about spicy ricketony at Carbone, and then all of a sudden it's fucking Lenny and.

Yeah. What's the other guy's name, George? Lenny and George. You a big Halloween guy? Are you a big, are you a big, you get it swept up in the seasons? A big seasons guy? My wife does. Whenever it's this time of year, I'm just ready to hunt.

So, like, I love this time of year, but I don't really get caught up in the seasons. You got no costume picked out this year? Not this year. We did dress up. I dressed up with Joe Burrow, and my wife dressed up as the Hysman a couple years ago. That was pretty good. That's really good. It was a place where a bunch of LSU fans were at?

Was it a huge hit? We did go to a little Halloween party down the street. Kyle Williams, who played for the bills, lives right down the street for me, and he played at LSU, so he thought it was pretty good. Yeah, that's awesome. That's great. It was a good time. All right, I'm not going to hold you hostage here anymore with these questions.

I'll let you go. Thanks for joining the podcast in the weirdest environment ever. That was great. Yeah, that was great. I would text cold and be like, hey, man, you actually never text me, but here's my response. Yeah, send him the podcast link. Just be like, this is what I was going to say anyway. Yeah, exactly.

Well, thanks for coming on, man. I really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, guys. Enjoyed it. Yeah, good luck. Good luck this week. Say hi to the Shephyors for us tonight, even though Scotty told me you shit last time I saw him. Yeah, that's tough.

All right. All right. See you. Thank you, Sam. Appreciate it. See, boys. All right. See you, man.

A nice guy. Just that Louisiana, like, slow. He's slow. Just laid back. At first, I felt like, oh, man, I don't know if he's, like, into this thing, but I think that's just how he is. Like, I think that's... We had to actually morph our speed to his, and then once we did, it was great.

Same thing with, like, Kisner. You got to just kind of talk slower to him. Yeah. Totally. Because we're, like, wiry, and we're always in each other's face. and then it's like, no, just pump the break. I think for the listeners, the juxtaposition between, like, the way we were at Colts and neck and the way he, like, we were all trying to figure that out, and then right into that.

I mean, that's like, that's like you went through a nightmare fucking, um, uh, roller coaster, and then it's that nice, smooth ending and it takes you right into it. That's, that's playing out. It's like moliasis, you're spilling out. Camile. That's so good. That's great. Oh, you're going to be great.

That's the laugh I need to going into this live show. It's going to be fucking crazy. You with the panties, you're really into that. Bro, because, like, there's only certain moments where this happens. I said that. It's the Beatles. It's Trent. This is what I, yeah.

I'm, I know. How often there's a group of women in a, in a place to go, in a place to go see a live show where a male comes out and they go crazy for him. Like, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a moment. You're like, um, who do all these, like, who does like my mom love to watch in like daytime TV? Harry Conning Jr.

Like, you know, that guy? Like, he walks out, they all fucking crazy. Yeah. He does his daytime show. People are going nuts. That's like you. Like he, and that guy, wets panties, man. They're all there going crazy.

They're clapping. They, they zoom in on the crowd. they're all swooning over him. That's you tonight, man. I hope you have a really fun time tonight, Trent. I'm not trying to make you nervous. I'm trying to gas you up. Lurch is on like a train right now. No, I know. Like, find you in the show.

I love that. I love that he's going to be there. Yeah. I want it. Yeah. Well, I'm sure there'll be video of it good or bad. If I walk out and you can hear a pin drop, you'll see that video too. Can we get a photo from your angle of Lurch if he looks ridiculous in the crowd. 100%.

If I'll see him, I'll be like, hold on. This is going to look weird, but I'm going to take a picture of this ogre in the back. I know you're all scared of him. He's harmless. I'll get a little bump there. I'll get a little laugh. Yeah. That'll get a great laugh. Like, you're going to warm up the crowd with that.

There you go funny, man. Tell a joke up there. Yeah. Yeah, we're still record. Yeah, we're doing a... We're coming down from the mountain of the... Oh, we are. Slow as my lais is coming out of the... Sam birds, man.

Dude, halfway through, I was going to be like, we got to cut this interview, man. This is just not, like, he's just not into it. But then I just realized he, the way he was just slouched on the couch, like, that's just that, that's just that dude, man. Yeah, dude, we were in, like, we were in Northeast mentality. We needed to be in Southern mentality. We got there. We got there. Big time.

Big time. Your series of just, what's your favorite questions, I think, really got him going, actually. Yeah. I just, I liked him. Something about that crew, man. And then I actually looked like, me and him had a little. little back and forth during the Northern Trust because he tagged me in that pizza review on Instagram.

So I had responded to him and he got back to us. So like I had had some connection with him already. So something about his, I really like that group, man. His group of friends, the Scotty Shefflers of the world, the Sam Burns, like those are our guys. Even though they're probably not supposed to be our guys, like we're not fucking nice people, like slow people. No, and like.

I'm saying he's like the way he fucking. talks and we're not like laid back basically no that's the word I was trying to yeah no but there's a little something there with those two even just like there's like there are there are type of guys they are they sit there they watch football they read barcel sports they send like funny blogs to each other

they like watch me he members shot by shot of Trent breaking a hundred he's a huge he's a huge breaking a hundred right but this guy Schuffer sees like Dave like go after someone and he extends it to fucking Sam Burns and they like get a quick laugh. They watch Trent in the bunker incident. They're like, look at this guy. It's like horrible.

Like that's just our guys. Yeah. It's like horrible. Yeah, I'm looking like Sam Burns has Christ follower and then he's got just a line of dead ducks. There's like his background photo and that's, you wouldn't think that would mesh with us, but it does. It's great.

I like those guys. I like Sam Burns. I hope he wins again. I might put some money on him. Boy, did he not get a fuck about that? I said that. He didn't care. Not even a little bit.

It's the same thing. I mean, we love all of our followers. Whereas we love every single person that comes out to us in an event or something. But, like, sometimes someone just say something where it's like, yo, man, like that, like, video is hilarious. And you're just like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Totally.

I get it. I 100% get it. The second I said it, I regretted saying it. Yeah. I was like, ah, yeah, I should. All right. I'm the worst. I know you made money.

I'm just like one of those guys. Like, okay, cool, dude. So, sorry. Yeah, sorry. My teeth are legitimately floating. God, it's so gross. You're mad. mouth is filled the piss right now.

I got to pee. Everybody have a great week. Go check out the Bailey Farms video if you haven't yet. Sim2 driver giveaway. Pay attention to that. We're going to leave now. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard.