Fore Play - Scott Brown aces Tiger Woods, and behind the scenes with Tiger’s golf ball makers

Episode Date: February 20, 2020

Scott Brown (26:30), fresh off a T2 finish at Riviera, joins the show. He tells the story of making an ace while playing with Tiger, playing Palmetto with Kiz & the Fore Play crew in November, and being in contention down the stretch at Riviera. Then Elliot and Adam (69:10) from Bridgestone join to discuss working with Tiger to create his new golf ball, what Tiger likes and doesn’t like, and what distance regulations could mean for ball manufacturers going forward!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It is Thursday, February 20th. I had to do a little Frankie kind of, you know, go into the future. It's Wednesday. Because today's Wednesday we're recording. We have a full lid. We have a full show today.

We have two different interviews. Scott Brown, he just finished tied for second. It Riviera and the Genesis invitation. He finished only two strokes back from Adam Scott. He is in the 18-hole video that we're going to be. put out very soon with Kisner at Palmetto. He played with us. He and Kizze always play the Zurich Classic together. They lost in a playoff one year.

So he's basically Kisner's best friend, especially when it comes to golf. Really good dude. Been trying to get him on, been wanting to get him on for a while, and this was the perfect opportunity coming off a huge finish. He made over $700 grand. He was right there down to the finish. He had a three putt for par, the 17th hole at par five. If he two-puts that, you know, then he posts 10 under with a birdie on 18.

things could be a little different. So he was right there in a huge tournament. He's in Puerto Rico getting ready to play that event. So he took a few minutes out of his day to chat. He had incredible Tiger Woods stories. Yeah, he claims that he doesn't know anything about Tiger Woods, but then, like, sits at his dinner table, essentially. He's his best friends of Tiger Woods.

Yeah, he said, you know, that Tiger Woods is basically his idol. He's the biggest fan of Tiger, but that he hasn't really had any, like, you know, whatever. And then he just, like, told story after story about interactions with Tiger Woods that are phenomenal. So, very good interview. And the other chap that we have is with the guys from Bridgestone. Tiger just put a new ball in the bag in play this year. Tiger's got new balls. New balls, Tiger has.

Very nice. Performance. You've been waiting to say that? No. Okay. Something that just popped in my head, Tiger's balls. Balls. I often think of Tiger's balls from times of time.

Do you? Yeah. Who doesn't? Why? I don't know. He's fucking one of the best golfers of all the time. I want to know what ball he's playing with. Golf ball.

Singular. Or balls. I don't think balls in his bag. Okay, how many balls he's got? Yeah. Performance type balls. I'm talking to spills. I'm talking about distance.

His ball bag, the whole thing. Yeah, I just, you know. Do you think Tiger has a ball bag inside his bag? No. I think it's just loose in there. Yeah, I think it's a pocket. You know, it's funny because ball can also mean testicle. Yeah.

You see what's happening here? I can see that. Okay. Yeah. Definitely see that. So we chat with these guys about the process of working with Tiger Woods to create a new golf ball that he is obviously going to put into play and use. It's obviously a pretty interesting situation and whole process working with the grades player of all time.

At one point during that little chat, Frankie Borelli tells a golf ball engineer to watch his fucking mouth. I did. So that's a little teaser for that. It's actually a really interesting talk, but that part stuck out to me where Frankie berated a golf ball engineer. Well, he said, I can't remember what he said to me. It's been a couple days since we talked to him, but he said something super offensive. me. Like what?

You're something like, we couldn't make you good even with this golf ball? No, it was something like, what the hell did he say? Well, you'll have to listen. Yeah, you'll listen and then you'll know and then you'll laugh because the guy

was told by Frankie just shut his fucking mouth. Yeah. It's a great interview. We also, we get into the, um, the distance thing dialing back to golf ball. Does that affect them as the company with the money and all that?

Are they pushing against that for that? Uh, we get into like, if you just didn't have rules and regulations on, how hot you can make a golf ball. Could they, in theory, make a golf ball that we could hit just like 400 yards? We had a very fun conversation with them about that. Travel series update quickly.

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he's had. And this kind of aligns with a lot of the discussions that we've had about Brooks Kepka, but he said in response to how many whole on ones have you had, he said, I don't know, actually, I don't keep track. I think I had a whole one at Augusta and forgot about it later that day. Inferiorated. Yeah, it's just shut up. It's infuriating because this is, this guy just like we did with Bryson this he's trying to make this his brand it feels so disingenuous just like I did with Bryson where it's like you're trying to be the guy that doesn't care and that is so annoying it's either do it or don't like you can't when you win be like it's amazing and all these things and then like if you go on a little streak of not winning or something you say oh well it's on a

major and then oh golf is just not that kind of sport that I can really get into that much I don't like to practice. Oh, I hit a hole in one at Augusta. I forgot about that day. It's like I'm on the beach. Who cares? I commented it saying that you could potentially make a hole in one at Augusta die. Be reincarnated. Die again. Oh, live the next life and you'd still remember that. What do you mean you don't remember? I know. It's so out. You have Alzheimer's? Yes. It's just a lot. You have dementia? Which is to Frankie's point, it's just so. Does he have to start playing chess on his phone like I do? Because I feel like my brain's going. Yeah. I can't remember anything. And even if you, here's like, my point was.

Okay, let's even give him some of this. Like he doesn't think August is like that cool because he's not a golf guy. If you took all of that out of it, you would just have to be a brainless person to not remember later in the day that you got a whole one. What do you mean you forgot? Even if I was just shooting around in the gym

playing basketball and my buddies and I made a half court shot, like later in that day I would just remember that I made that shot. Just like he would remember that he got a whole and one and golf. That's just like what happened earlier. How would you forget about it? Right. That's just a thing that happened recently.

Correct. Like you didn't. I ain't a sandwich. Like, I remember that sandwich. It's an iconic place. Right. And it's something that you're doing that's to the highest level of that sport at the highest, like held place in the world. It's like, oh, oh, I don't play football.

And I've never played football. I'm way too scrawny and, uh, and bitchy and frail and a feminine forehead. We know. But I went to, I went to the moon face. That is a new development. I, Lurch, you don't know about this. I actually, as soon as he said that, I just looked at your cheeks and your smile. And I was like, you do.

Just rotate it on the side. I don't even know what they're talking about. And he said moonface. Like, I know what they're saying. You know, I get it. There's a kid on Twitter. There's a kid on Twitter.

Everything I say, he goes, he goes, you have a face like the moon. So I'll be like, I'll be like, let's go Islanders. He goes, let's go Islanders. But you still have a face like the moon. It's terrific. Hope that, hope the Islanders win for you, you moon face. I will say the moon you never see, like, frowning. So I think that's a good thing.

No, I illuminate the world at night. That's fine. Right. You have a featureless face. Featureless round face. But I remember, you know, we once went to the big house in Michigan, and I got onto the field before a Michigan versus Michigan State game the night before. We were tossing touchdowns.

I threw a touchdown to Zah in the end zone of the big house. Like that is something I'll always remember. It's one of the most elite, like, mythical places in college football. And I got to hold a football and throw it into the end zone and have a little Zimbabwe midget catch the ball. It's something I remember. And of that level, it's not even close to hitting a hole in one at Augusta National. So you're going to tell me, like, that's something I'll remember for the rest of my life. And you're going to tell me that, like, you just don't remember.

Right. It is, it's a thing. Later that day. Later that day. It's a thing. It's what you're, it's what everyone's saying. It's a thing where it's like, you see that, you read that. You see that he said it.

And you're like, oh, he's trying to portray this character now that he legitimately doesn't care about the sport. You care a lot. Yeah. You just, it's not even if you care or not. It's like, you just remember that. Right. To Riggs's point, the basketball shot, agree with that. You're like at the big house.

agree with that. I mean, I even think it's more than just making a basketball shot. It is playing an MSG and then you're playing a game and you make a game winning three or maybe, you know, whatever. And then like later that day you're like, oh no, I forgot about that. Right. It reeks of a concerted effort to push some sort of narrative forward. You don't care about the sport that you are incredibly good at. It's Bill Belichick going like

Snapface. It's like it's the same kind of you know what it's called. You know it's called Facebook. It's Colin Cawd or whatever the fuck his name. Or tool ports. Yeah, exactly. You know, you know it's Barcelona. You know it's called sports, even if you don't know it's called Barcelona. It's that port.

Oh, like you got a whole one in Augusta that morning. You know you got it. Actually, that's why you're telling the story now because you remember that it happened. Yeah, he's walking off. Like, oh, did that go in? Really? Yeah. Yeah.

He could be grateful for what the game's given him to. It's like, you know. This is all gravy. He's seen the headlines that it's like, oh, isn't it interesting that Brooks Keppley is like aloof about the game of that he dominates? And he's like, oh, he's like, yeah, bro, I'll feed into that. Yeah, bro. I'll feed into it.

I'll say I don't remember a whole and one at Augusta. It's that whole thing. It's exactly what Frankie says. It's disingenuous. I see something like that. It's just like, all right, man, I'm so glad that Roy's back to number one.

Yeah, the best comment I saw, the first time I saw this quote from Brooks was somebody tagged us in it and just wrote hashtag, not my world number one. And it was perfect because it was like, Rory is, like he talks about how he lives and breathes golf

and growing up in Hollywood, North Ireland, and like how much it means to him. and all these different things that make him like a golf guy. And Brooks Kevka, hey, dude, you're clearly a golf guy. You just wants to be perceived as not. And he has to realize that people are going to get infuriated by this. It's just the same thing as the royal couple, right?

Like they don't, like they act like they don't want to be a part of the royal family anymore. They want to move to Canada and do all these things. But it's like, no, no, like you are a part of the royal family. Like, Brooks Kepler, you are the best golfer right now on tour. Like you don't get to act like you don't. like you don't want to be. Like that's something you signed up for. You wanted to be a golfer.

You became a golfer. You are now one of the best. You're winning all these majors. You have to do this now. You have to care. You can't act like it doesn't matter. You can't. You're not allowed.

And it sounds like stupid for me saying that. Like he's allowed to do whatever he wants. Just like Prince Harry and Megan Markle are allowed to do whatever they want. But the world gets mad at it. They're like, no, you're born into this. You chose. Actually, even more so, you chose this. You picked up the golf club.

You got good. You started winning majors. And now you have to give a fuck. So much. Dude, he went over and played all around the world on like the European tour, basically the golf minor leagues to try to make it in golf. Yeah. He did that for a long time. Correct.

Like you have to deeply want to be a professional golfer to do that. And we get that. So why what's frustrating and just fucking downright annoying is making this concerted effort like Trent said to buy into and to push this narrative that you don't care when in reality you do. Dude, you're awesome at this. Yeah. And Brando made that comment where he was like, Because now he's so cocky, Brooks, with all the comments about Rory. Like, he hasn't won since I've been on tour.

But, like, Brandon was like, well, no, like, you just weren't good enough to be on the tour. That was a great line. And, like, that really stinks. That hit me. I was like, oh, my God. That is like a power statement. Maybe since you've been good enough to be on the tour he hasn't won. But, like, Rory's been doing the damn thing since before you were even allowed on the same golf course as him.

So. Allowed. A loud is a strong term. And technically allowed. Not allowed. Yeah. No, had he tried to get on the same golf course as Rory? He couldn't.

before that time frame, they would literally tackle him and say, you're not allowed on this golf course. And it's like, he doesn't have to do this. He could so easily, like, dude, you pound the ball, you hit it a mile.

You've got crazy biceps and like super white teeth. And you're, you were the number one right player in the world. You're tan. It's cool. Like, that's all cool and good. And a lot of your comments are spot on.

The fact that you roast other guys for like slow play and all that means that you are thinking about golf. Like you care about issues pertaining to golf. So then don't, but just don't, go too far. That's what's annoying. He doesn't need to do that. It's clearly gone too far. Not one person read that comment and thought it came from a genuine place. That's just you trying to look cool. It's like he thinks golf's filled with nerds. It's literally like a high school, like almost

like high school musical where like the jock finds out he can sing, but doesn't want his jock friends to know that he's a really good singer and he wants to be in the musical. Right. So it's like he's hanging out with like Big Cat and part of my take and be like, no, bro. Like I love football and beer and all this stuff. I don't like that fucking golf stuff. I'm just good at it. Like, whatever. Like, don't, don't, don't, don't like that.

But then when he's in his room, he's, he's singing beautiful notes. Beautiful notes. He's putting. He's working on his wedge game. But then, like, I don't know, like someone from like the Los Angeles Rams comes over. Like, what are you doing over there? Brooks? Like, nothing, bro.

I'm just like swinging around this stick, dude. Like, I'm just going to hit a couple golf balls like a hundred miles an hour. Is that sick? Like, cool. And I will say on it. Like, he, like, I agree. It's don't take it too far. Like Riggs's point was

Of like, it's fine if that's the way your practice habits are That you can't like focus for so long or whatever That you only want to, you know, focus on golf for this amount of the day I love high school musicals so much. Then taking it to the point of I don't remember the whole one is just so stupid and ridiculous. And there are right and there are aspects of him that like broad in the audience for the game like when he wore off white sneakers when he was playing that one time Like I think that's interesting and I know his point on that was like all all these golf nerds and all these golf journalists nerds aren't going to know what this shoe is. was ha ha ha ha I still am on the

That's kind of how it is I'm still inside of that even the comments he made What's that shoe that you didn't know? Balenciagas Belenciagas He probably has a pair of Valenciaia That was Bronte La Bronte La La

What are those balenciages? Valciages? Yeah but then and even these comments that he made He's talking to sway Like that's not That's not an audience that is necessarily going to know a ton about golf So for Brooks Keppka to be going into these arenas

and being like I am a golfer And I'm like a cool guy That we completely agree with It's taking it and swinging it, no pun intended, too far in the other direction and being like, I forget the whole one ones I made at Augusta. Yeah, it's just, I think we're all on the same page with that. It came off wrong, and I don't know that he intended it that way. Whatever. Like, I don't think he thought it would be received this way.

I don't really know if he cares. But it was just, it just came off. It was very duchy. And then he also made comments on Patrick Reed. I said, I don't know what he was doing, building sandcastles in the sand, but you know where your club is. That was a funny comment. saying building sand castles in the sand is funny that made me laugh that made me laugh I wonder it's a little redundant it is redundant I know sand castles like where else would

you build sand you can't build sand no I know on the concrete like just picturing Patrick Reed sitting in the sand like on his ass like with no shoes on like messing around with the sand is hilarious yeah that's what I picture it's the funniest description of that event that I've heard like oh wow while while he was just building sand castles I was out like that's funny funny I'll get that to him me too I thought it came off a little like rehearsed. There is an aspect of that. Yeah,

I put in my blog when I blogged it originally. It was like, I wonder how long he's been holding on to that. Yeah, right. He definitely thought of that and instead it wasn't off the cuff, but I still give him credit for it. It for sure comes off like that, but man,

does it hit? When you read it, when it's written down it, it hits. Yes. When you watch him deliver it, it hits less, but it's still,

I give it an A for effort. Okay. All right. And then the last thing we're talking about before we get to Scott Brown and to the Bridgestone golf ball guys is the WGC Mexico of the course they put a plaque down for Tiger. Last year, if you recall,

this is when he hit the huge cut out of the bunker to like 12 feet. Oh yeah. Didn't make the birdie. He just made par on the hole. Finish tied for 10th. They put a plaque down for him. Yeah, that's a little too much.

That's when you move it. It's a little too much and they're desperate for more like interaction about their golf course. Yeah. It's two prong, I think. Yeah.

It's just like not an iconic in this moment for people who'd be like, oh, what's this plaque? for it's like actually he like just he hit a really cool shot but then missed the put but yeah it's a cool shot it is an insane shot they should just have a little like iPad over there that you can just watch it yeah that's not a bad idea um you like kind of nice interactive interactive interactive yeah it doesn't need a like just like Justin thoms Aaron Hills I'd love to just you can just I guess you just pull up your friend he didn't win there it's crazy yeah we got to talk about my golf bag

you got chirped like what was that about I got fucking roasted on the internet Also, some kid was like, how do you not have a putter cover for your part of cover? It was just right there. Just blatantly right there. Let me just talk to everyone for a second. Okay. So yesterday I'm just sitting at my desk, you know, just fucking paddling, doing some of those, what are those things called? Pizza reviews?

Kekles. Kegel exercises? You strengthen in your shaft? You know, I heard that if you just sit. I heard. If you sit there and you just squeeze a little bit, it helps you. Fuck yeah, dude. Self-care.

What were you doing? What is it called? This guy doesn't do it. What is it called? Cagle exercise. Cagles? Yeah. Is that where you squeeze your...

It's made for the clitoris, but it's... You put a little thing in between your legs. That's spoken like a man is definitely... That man has sex. It's just you put it in between your legs and then you squeeze your legs together and it just strengthens the whole area up there. Whatever. And...

I mean, you got to... What book did you... you read. Well, listen, I'm just sitting on my desk, mind of my own business, and I see a tweet coming after. It comes from the four play of castes thoughts on Frankie Borelli's bag. And I'll say the bag was a, it was a disaster. It was an absolute catastrophe what was going on in my golf bag. But I want to give everyone a little insight. Now, Riggs tweeted that out, fired that out of me. He didn't put his input. I get that. He just said thoughts on his bag. This is a question. Got hundreds and hundreds of responses, people hardos being like,

you can't shoot 80 with a bag like that like, oh, sick. I can't. I can't shoot 80. Someone said if your driver is in the bottom slot of your bag, you can never break 80. Bro, as if, like, if that driver is in any other slot, I'm breaking 80 and ever. But I want to give myself some credit here, or at least explain what happened. We were at a golf simulator, and like, who the hell is paying attention to where you're putting the fucking clubs in your bag had a simulator had my girlfriend there you know we're like we're eating appetizers we're fucking drinking

beers and i'm worrying about where my driver dude i had my cut the head covers are all over the floor you're hitting every two seconds it's a simulator yeah it's a simulator i'm not walking around augustin national with my driver head cover in the in the bottom slot i'm not walking out my scotty cameron all willy nilly like tiger woods when he was at the u.s open just flinging it around and stuff i have a cover for my from my scotty cameron it's a tobacco road head cover it's a very nice one's a red. So sometimes when I'm on fire, I'm like, oh, I'm pulling out the weapon. Look at this fucking thing.

You can see it from miles away. When I'm at the simulator at Five Iron Golf, I'm not thinking about where the slots are. I got text messages from people all around the world being like, are you fucking kidding me with that organization? I actually think it's almost better that way. Brock Nelson said he may not play golf with me anymore the way he was texting me. He's like, he sent me a picture of it. He goes, you've got to be kidding me right now.

I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, man. I wasn't paying attention. Look, I put it up on Instagram without any thought. I just wanted people to know that we were there. We're going to do it. noticed a lot of engagement on the photo. I thought very simply, well, maybe we'll throw it on Twitter. A ton of engagement.

Thoughts question mark. And listen, I'm usually a guy that likes things like neat. I like the way. Doesn't look like you. But I do like the way a golf bag looks when it is all the way like the drivers on top. Sometimes you put the driver and it floats, it just like flows over the putter. Like when you're getting ready for a big golf day, the next day you'd clean you clubs. I've done that all the time.

I've brought my clubs to my mom's kitchen. and I've like dirtied up the kitchen with like the wedge and like what's all this dirt in here I was just cleaning my golf clubs like you know what I mean like I've done that before but in a situation like that like for someone to care about my golf bag that's what's worse is you caring about it now well you're curious about it the problem is I saw a lot of people say that I was hypocritical because I care about Trent's wires with his TVs yeah but that's something that really irks me because that's like a living that's like you choose to live your life that way you You watch TV, you watch The Bachelor, you do all this stuff with wires all over the place like you're in Jumanji.

I don't usually watch. I don't usually live my life with my bag that disorganized. And I don't think people should care when I'm at a simulator. The one time I put my driver in the bottom slot should not affect their day that much. When I first started playing golf, I would have my driver in the bottom. Worry about your own wires, bro. I should worry about my own wires. And you know what this is a learning experience.

I want to apologize to Trent about the wires. I don't agree with the way you do your wires. But I shouldn't care that much about how you live your life that way. I shouldn't. I do. But I shouldn't let you know that. And I should let you live the way however the hell you want. I accept your apology.

People should not give a fuck if my driver head covers in the bottom or the top slot. Even though I do put it in the top slot most of the time. When I'm at a golf course, if I have a caddy. I used to catty. You have to put him in the correct slots. I understand that. Guys care about that shit. Old man fucking geezer, the old judge who grabbed my neck at the Garden City Men's Club.

You know, he cared very much. If you ever touched my ball, son? He cared very much where I put his golf clubs. Cared very much. All right. On that note, I got fucking shafted. Hey, you're trying to make it. I think it makes more sense to have the driver in the bottom.

Especially if it's on a golf cart. Well, because, well, no, when you drop it down, then the driver doesn't overhang the wedges. So when you pull the wedges out, it doesn't potentially hit the driver head. I think it actually makes more sense in reverse. It just looks uglier. Little. That's, that's just, I think that's wrong. But, you know, anyways.

It's got a ton of their own, you know, to each their own. It got a ton of responses. People's telling you. Tons. People freaked about it. Freaked. Engagement. Engagement.

But when you're at, like, you guys are there. They're negative. We're numbers. We're just working about the numbers. Listen to how fucked up golf is. I got chirped for bringing my bag to the simulator. That's fine. And then got.

But I'm also a leftian. Like, I didn't know what the situation is. I've never been there to that one. I didn't know, like, what, I didn't know. what the availability is in lefty clubs and shit like that. And then I got, so I got shirt for bringing my bag. And then I got churped for the organization of my bag at said simulator play. So what the fuck am I supposed to do?

It's like you're being too much of a hardo. Oh, you don't care enough. You're not a hardo enough about where your organization is. That's crazy. I guess if you're going to be the hardo, you've got to be full hard out. Oh, whatever, dude. I scanned the comments as soon as I went up because I knew people were going to just eat them alive. And the first one I saw was, what's going on with these lefty clubs?

And it's like, all right, well, that guy just doesn't know. There were a couple funny. He's just there to make one of them. No, that's just like your left hand. That's what's going on. One person put in a knife inside the bag. I thought that was funny. Next up, we got Scott Brown.

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How you doing? Good. So you got the whole gang here. It's a four-on-one situation. Sweet. What's up, Brum? Brownie. How you guys?

What's up, Brownie? I'm the anonymous lurch. Doing great. It's great to talk to you. This mic smells. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, all right. Proudny, we're just going to kind of record and just wing it and talk a little golf. All right. Okay. Okay. Where are we at right now? We're in Puerto Rico? Puerto Rico.

You're a champ. You're, you know, is this the side of your PGA tour win. Are you excited? Yeah, 2013. It's been a while, but I've had a good run here. A lot of top teams, a lot of chances to win other than that year. So obviously coming off last week, yeah, I'm pretty excited about this week. It's going to be really windy, a little different than last week, but golf course I kind of like. So looking forward to it.

Clearly. Well, let's talk last week. Let's talk a little Riviera. Everybody praises the golf course. You hear every single week from Adam Scott to Max Holman was talking. It's their favorite course on tour. What is it about Riviera that makes it so good? It's mine, too. I say the same thing. It's my favorite course we play all year.

I just think it's pure golf. You know, there's no water. I mean, no out of bounds. It's just trees, rough, and hard-ass greens to hit. So it's just pure golf. You've got to kind of play. really smart there, know where you misses are, and I kind of like that. I've always liked golf courses that are hard.

I seem to do better on those kind of tracks. So you said no water on the course, there's kind of no water at Palmetto either, so I kind of bring up. That's right. Like, is there really no water or no water like for you guys? There's no water. It reminds me a lot of Palmetta. It's just a little longer.

There's some water at Palmetto. that's right I forgot he didn't even know where that joke was going it was possible yeah the warder on number one

I forgot about everybody forget nobody knows about it except Frankie when someone told him that it was there and then his ball

just happened to be to end up in that spot yeah yeah yeah I tried to chip it like Frankie

last week and drive it like Trent you know everything I learned from from Palmetta that day yeah Trent the only

fairway finder on won at palmetto i'm telling you and then i caused the car wreck on three yeah um so i'll get into that round i got i got we got plenty of questions about that obviously i'm uh i'm curious you'd missed i believe it was four cuts in a row and then you go to the genesis which yeah was really coming off like a major championship with some of the big names with how difficult the the scoring was people were backing up on the weekend not necessarily going deeper and you get a two finish, you only finish two strokes back. What changes?

How does it happen? I felt like I hit the ball really, really good and just got nothing out of it any of those weeks, really. Putted pretty bad the first three weeks, and then it was like a switch went off kind of Monterey Peninsula. It was the third round. I played really bad at Pebble the first round and went to Monterey Peninsula the third round of the Pell Beach tournament and shot like five.

under it was kind of windy playing tough started making some putts um and kind of just went into riviera played the monday program with some of the college guys they give an exemption there um for some of the college boys that come out so i play with with washington um they asked me to play with the kid from washington play with him shot like seven under in the program on monday at rive It's blowing 30. I've had a hole in one on 16. So just kind of it's not all come to fruition, really.

You know, I've been working hard as, obviously. But you know how it is? It's just a game of confidence. And play that good round at MPC and then kind of saw some good scores Monday under tough conditions and just part of that into a good finish. You know, you mentioned that kind of tough round you had at Pabble that had you on PJ 12.

live the whole every shot was on there yeah yeah i mean well i'll find with herald i think is that right harold yeah yeah yeah yeah we were first group out uh that opening round and he obviously got off to a really really good start and then literally they followed us all day he played well that day and i did not play so well oh yeah i ask his this but i i want to ask you too i mean the pelleckes you too i mean Bevel Beach, AT&T, Pro Am, you get to play Spyglass, Pebble, Monterey. You're a guy, obviously, you're on the PGA tour. You've got almost $10 million in career earnings. You play all over the place.

Do you still get kind of, like, jacked up? Do you get excited to go out and play these gorgeous courses similar to how we would? Yeah, especially the places like Pebble. Pebble is very neat. I mean, obviously, the seven or eight holes that are sitting on the coast. line are just incredible. With that being said, I think, you know, if it wasn't sitting where it was sitting,

I think Pubble would be kind of one of those places that nobody would know of. It's an awesome golf course because of where it sits. Spy is actually my favorite in that rotation out there. It reminds me a lot of Augusta, just the way that it plays, the way the greens are, kind of through the trees, which is very rare out there. But, yeah, I mean, obviously going forward. places like 20 pounds and Hell Beach and Riviera, you know, they kind of have a sacred feel on those places.

You're in a, you're Augusta-born, so does Augusta National? I mean, is it still kind of, you know, make it move for you a little bit? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, growing up, I was going up, 200 yards from the front gate, kind of grew up with grandparents, you know, and their house still sits here in a bay. They're like one of the few houses that didn't sell to the Gus National sitting right in the in the parking lot.

So, yeah, I mean, I went to the Masters every year since I can remember with my granddad, we sit on 16 every year. So obviously it's a really big goal of mine to get over there eventually. Yeah. That's that bar we went to when we were down Augusta, had all the pool. It was like, we were watching, like, I guess we were watching baseball or basketball. Oh, oh. I mean, Brownie probably knows.

It was a real cool place. In town, right in town. It was like right across the street it felt like from like the main entrance. It was a bunch of pool tables. Real cool. They were playing country music. People were dancing. Remember that?

The country club. Oh, the country club. That's it. Is that where Snoop Dogg was playing? I think so. Snoop Dog, he didn't perform, but he DJed. Right. He's a rare thing. You don't see that all the time.

I think if you're trying to book Snoop Dog to do some sort of event, it's a lot, a lot of money for him to be a rapper Snoop Dog. But if you get him a DJ, I bet it's probably 70%. what it would be. Well, I think Snoop Dogg looked down, he's like, I'm at Augusta National. You know, this is not really my, this is not really my, like, group of people audience.

That you typically listen to my music. I mean, we were all, like, showing up in, like, golf clothes and stuff. And then all of a sudden, he just hit, like, journey. And, like, on the, he just hit play on his laptop. We're like, this is not Snoop Dog. Like, he's usually, like, smoking weed and, like, rapping. He was still smoking weed.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you go to the country club ever, Brownie? Uh, a half man only when, uh, a few of my buddies have played, like Eric Dodd, who's played at Keynes Foundation event before. I think he's played there. Maybe he just went and seen him there once or twice. And I think y'all were talking about the country club.

It's right behind the hooters. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly. And that place during Masters Week for everybody who hasn't been to the Masters, we have. And Lurch has not. Sorry, Lurch. That place just turns into, like, Party Central the whole week during the Masters.

That's right. You said something interesting about your grandparents' house. It's still there in Augusta. How does that work then? Is Augusta National knocking on their door every couple of weeks being like, hey, can we buy this place from you? So they work for a while. It's kind of gone down in the last few years.

I think they realized that they were in a certain age that they probably weren't going to get it at this point. But yeah, for a while, I mean, they came by pretty often, often often them pretty good numbers. Right. I'm sure. Augusta national numbers. So they've held out and, you know, it's still sitting there. That's really interesting.

Yeah, I mean, you've got to think someday you just cave. You're like, all right, yeah, we'll go, you know, we'll move to the beach. I would never ask, I would never ask for numbers, but those numbers have to be astronomical. Yes, crazy numbers. From what they're paid for the house in the 50s, they're astronomical. Right. Yeah, they're ROI strong. How sick, that'll be happy for Brownie to play.

his family have a house right on the course yeah i mean that'd be an absolute dream you can't sell until that point yeah that'd be pretty cool uh is it difficult to go from um from riviera which like i said earlier kind of felt like the genesis felt like almost a major championship type vibe the crowds the golf course was was a star it was people were the names of the top of the leaderboard and how bunched everything was to like an opposite field event like porto is it like just getting jazzed up for it or the kind of the emotional investment feel any different? Yeah, I mean, it obviously does, especially coming off second, they're almost having a chance to win.

Obviously, I love to be in Mexico. And, you know, I mean, I think just me kind of have an affiliation of this tournament past champion, I mean, the way they've always, you know, expressed it to me is they'd like to see me in those fields too, as well as, you know, myself. So it only looks good for them. You know, if their champions go on to, like, female, for instance. You know, he won here, and he's gotten all those big events now,

and it only makes them look better. But with that being said, I've had a lot of success here, so it's kind of hard for me not to come here. Obviously, going wrong, I thought about it, because this is a big run of tournaments for me, and it kind of fits in a place where an off-week looks pretty good. But then again, you know, it's had so much success here. It's hard not to come.

Definitely, and it is. I mean, it's an interesting dynamic when you've got the two tournaments going on and, and clearly people probably lose sight of the fact that you're still playing for a lot out there. There's a lot on the table. It means the world to almost everybody in the field. That's why you guys are there. So I just think kind of hearing that perspective and kind of how that dynamic plays out is interesting because it probably doesn't get a ton of coverage. No. And yeah, I mean, you're right. There's a lot of play for here. I mean, it's, you know, it's basically a two and a half year exemption from right now if you win it and trip to Maui, which everybody knows what that's worth. So, you know, it's just more than just an opposite film event for sure. So Zurich Classic, we talked a little bit on Tuesday's show about the Zurich Classic. Why are you and kids runner up 2017, tied for 18th of 2018. tied for fifth last year. Why are you guys so dangerous in the at Zerickr class? I just think our game is so similar. You know, we kind of hit it the same distance off the T.

So I think these guys that go out and say, you know, I'm going to play with, you know, Dustin Johnson or Brooks Kepko or all these guys that hit it far. Let's say they take me. I mean, I think they would not have a clue what to do for my drive, to be honest with you. They'd be like, oh, holy shit, I've got to hit six iron in here now. I think kids and I just used to it, you know, so we hit it in the same distance,

and we're just used to having to hit five and six irons. And we do a lot of the things the same that we do them well. You know, put putting and chipping, and we kind of, we just do everything kind of similar from, I guess probably just from playing with each other so much, you know. Plus, you know, we give each other shit out there on the horse. he's like nice drive when I hit one in the water or something and it doesn't bother me where some people might be like God I can't let me just hit in the water for Dustin Johnson

we don't really care it is funny you say that because we people ask us a lot like are you guys played a full round with you know two PGA tour players most normal golfers on earth will never get that experience what's that like and we're like they're the exact same golfer they hit the ball within five feet of each other off the teeth it's crazy it was like we could not believe how identical your guys games where we're like is that what all tour pros are like but i guess we just found the two guys

that play identical golf yeah i mean it's scary we always you know when you guys read you said it too what's the job you want to play like we always joke about it you know when practice around zero who's got what holes and who does that finally we just said it really doesn't matter uh i was it doesn't matter i was gonna ask what's what is kids like inside the ropes in a team of it i mean i imagine he's just still running his mouth like you said the whole time Oh, yeah. I mean, he still gives me crap all the time. I'm not quite the guy that he is. I don't needle him too much, but I'll give you a story last year.

He always tells me if I leave a putt short, you know, it's $50. And I'm like, okay, whatever, you know. And I left one short on, like, third or fourth hole, and he's like, that's 50. Something. Well, it got, like, late on Sunday. And we were kind of making a move and all-s and a shot, and I hit a good shot in there on, like, a par three or something. We had like 10 feet, and he left it, like, short, like, one inch short.

And I'm like, now we're even. And the guys we were playing with us are like, started dying laughing. Like, what are they talking about? We're out there, like, gambling with each other on the day. Trying to win a PJ Toil. That's how it for us. I mean, we really, we went down there the first year, I think, we didn't really care if we won or not.

We just happened to get in the Knicks. I just think we've kind of always gone on there. We don't really go down there to win. I mean, it's nice if we do, but we kind of get on there to get away, have fun, a fun event, you know, and that's the way we've always looked at it. Owning a small business is no easy task. Couldn't even imagine owning a small business. It sounds way too difficult, way too many things going on. My brain could not comprehend it.

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Do you at least help him up? Dewey, Dewey has fallen a lot, actually. I think my recent was last year Memorial Dewey fell and just tripped right over walking right down the middle of the fairway. It's flat as a board. And there's even nothing out there. He just tripped over his feet and fell face forward. Bagged flopped down his floor. The guy just can't stay on his feet no matter what.

Is it the shoes? He might be wearing the wrong size shoe. He might have got tripped everywhere by his calf. I don't know. So funny. Oh, man. So let's talk about our round together. You know, we've only, I believe.

You and kids are the only two guys we've ever played a round of golf with. Who do you think of us three? You didn't get to see Lurge play, unfortunately. It has the most potential or could someday be, like, decent at golf. Right, probably for sure. Hell, yeah. Why do you say that? The only reason you ask that question to the people that come on the show is because they're going to say you.

I don't even think I asked kids last time. I asked somebody that question. Based on swings, I would say Frankie. I'm actually shocked that you would say, say Rick. mental disaster. I know. That's true. But in only 18 holes, do you figure that out?

Say it? The chipping scares me with Frankie. Yeah. It does with everybody. Dude, we spent like, Brownie, how long we spent maybe 45 minutes, almost an hour, chipping around at Palmetto, first hole, I just bladed it onto the next T-box? Yeah, but I will say that Frankie does have the play of the bunch. Thank you very much.

Appreciate that. Just, I'm just waiting for a compliment to come my way. Okay. There you go. There is. It's actually more infuriating. I'm graduating to hear, like, I have a nice swing, and I have so much potential, but I'll never get there because how mentally fucked I am. That's the worst place to be.

It's the worst place. Yeah, I'd rather be like, oh, that guy just doesn't know how to play golf. Broken arm, can't do it. Yeah, but I think that, yeah, it's like you can change a golf swing. I don't know you can change that brain. No, no. It's kind of a lot of therapy. Like an insane amount of therapy.

When we were playing, so, like, the first couple holes, I was a disaster. I think I was. You made a nine on the first. I made a nine on the first. I think an eight on the second. It was just a nightmare. I was like, I was so busy. I was like, I just want to go home.

But then, like, Brownie had me locked in. Yeah, well, you know, kids and I both went to the same thing when we first got on tour. It's crazy. The conditions makes you, but kids and I both went through the same thing when we first got out there. We're kind of, I won't call it the chip.

It wasn't quite the chicken yips, but the conditions of, you know, coming up on the web back then when I was coming along, and then you go to the PJ tour where everything is cut so tight, everything has grown back at you, like grainy, and it is not easy to chip on tour, not easy at all. Well, I will say to Frankie, like, standing there playing in front of you guys is so nerve-wracking that any part of your game that is like your biggest weakness

or whatever is going to get exposed. Yeah, think about that first hole for me. I'm standing in front of two PGA tour pros, and I just drill one into the water that's 60 yards to the right that no one even knows is on the golf course. And I'm like, well, I'm just less of a human now. Like they're, but then you find out very quickly. I mean, we already knew this going in because we had hung out with these guys,

but like they're just the coolest guys of all time. That didn't matter. Like, you can make a 13 and they're still just like shooting the shit joking. Right. It's not that kind of like mental. Well, it's just because we can't understand the golf swing. Like when I'm hitting it well or poorly, I have no idea really what I'm doing differently.

And so to go in front of someone where they know, like they could break down your swing, no, Frankie, hit with one hand, like you'll get better quickly. And then you do that and it works. Like, in a million years, you never would have came down to. We were in Australia. So you'd present yourself on a first day.

You're just, I'm going to shake it. When we were in Australia, remember when Tiger was staring at, so we were at that little par three thing. And they were hitting the balls into the water. Not the par three. They were hitting the balls into the water onto the target. Yeah. Oh, the river at the river.

Yeah, downtown. And all these, like, you know, local celebrities and like athletes were going up. there and like the younger kids are going up there and whatever and they're all hitting in front of tiger and tigers just staring down at like their leg position the way that they hold their hands and you're just thinking like this guy is just is just he's piecing together exactly what they're doing wrong he was like jason born when he goes into the restaurant he's like how come i know the license plates of all nine cars out in the car car car car car car come i know that it's like the exact same thing he's looking that person up and down his computer like iron man is like computing and calculating everything

I said that person into Chip. That's how we felt with you guys watching, Browdy. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. We do it every week. I did it today in Puerto Rico with three guys. I see the same stuff every week. But you guys are better.

Have you ever felt that feeling like on the tour? Have you ever been in front of like, I don't know, Tiger, like hitting the ball and being like, man, I wonder if this guy says I'm doing the wrong thing? I'll play with Tiger in Greensboro in the next last group. Remember that last year he played in Greensboro? Yep. Like when he was kind of hurt, I played in the next to last group with him, and I could hurt, I mean, obviously, I'm a huge Tiger fan.

I've kind of always idolized him growing up. But like he was walking up to the tee, you know, and it's like a 50-yard walk from the 100-yard walk from the putt and green to the first tee. And, like, I wasn't even nervous until, like, he came out of the crowd, and, like, he's strolling up from the putt in the putt in the first tee, and his red and black and his Sunday, and you're like, geez. I couldn't even hardly breathe. Just don't top the three wood off the first hole.

Please, just don't top it. But yeah, I mean, obviously, I mean, I feel good. I mean, I get crazy nervous out there. I mean, like, but good, obviously. Get nervous because it's obviously if you're a good position, you're nervous. I was nervous on Sunday, but I kind of, the more of the round gets going, you kind of,

I guess it kind of eases all for us more. It's more excitement, I guess, more than nerves. See, I've always wondered that. about like obviously the the it gets talked about johnny miller made it crazy famous just nerves this nerves that nervousness changes everything in golf and it does we're all aware of that you can stand on the range and hit even us or who were bad you can get to a groove or we hit five six seven drives in a row they're like very good drives and then you get up on that first tee and maybe it's just the starter that's looking at you maybe it's four random guys that are in the group behind you and all

the sudden your whole fucking golf swing changes you're nervous you're nervous you're your rhythm change every single thing changes now to me i've kind of thought like backwards from that been like well it makes sense because like our swings we know fundamentally suck so like we're nervous that one screw is going to come out and the whole thing collapses whereas i've always thought there has to be a little bit of um a difference when your highest nervous situation would be when you're in contention at a golf tournament but you guys are some of the best players in the world and if you're contention, that means you're playing very well. So, like, is there almost a calming effect of, like, I know I'm playing well?

I don't think, I mean, I don't think. There's not for me to answer your question. I mean, obviously, the more I'm in the mix, the more I'm nervous or amped up. But I will say for me, it's not really, I don't really get much on, like, hitting full shots. I get more around, like, putting and stuff where you can just feel, like, Like the hands are, you know, you just don't have that, like, the hands are maybe a little bit nervy or something on some of the, like, maybe like four or five footers if it means something for par coming down the stretch. That's where I feel it the most.

Yeah, I feel that. I feel like that's, that too, for whatever reason, the putting is, like, where things are remembered and, like, where it's very, like, it's very finite. It's very, like, it's one way or the other. Either goes in or it doesn't. And, like, even when we have matches with each other, if I have a big pot on 16 or something from. six feet, I'll be there and be like, I know of this misses that at the bar the entire night, that's like all lurch is going to talk about is how I missed that six-footer. Whereas if you like slice one into the right rough, like, well, whatever, that's just like,

we do that all the time. But if you miss a six-footer, it's so memorable. So I feel like on some level, we could kind of relate to that. Yeah. I mean, I mean, anybody tells you that I don't know. I mean, even Tiger talked about it. I was watching wherever he was. Somewhere early in the year, maybe it was even at the, somebody asked him about nerves,

and he's like, oh, yeah, I'm nervous. I mean, I get nervous still. It means something. It doesn't mean anything. You don't get nervous, right? It means something you do. So, I noticed they have a little profile on you on PGATor.com, and your answer for filling out your dream for some was Tiger Woods, Bobby Jones, and Ben Hogan.

Have you ever had outside of Tiger being in the group next to you and scaring the shit out of you at Greensboro? Have you ever had any interactions with Tiger? So Sunday when I got done with the air, actually, he was actually, we took the same two time. And, you know, we double tea Saturday and Sunday. And he was finishing in scoring. I was finishing in scoring on Sunday.

And it was kind of like, he said, Scott, how'd you do? You know, and what did you post? And I was like, 9-under-and-he's like, that's good point. he's like how firm was this place. So like a little bit of that kind of stuff, but not much, not much. But it was kind of cool. It's always cool. So, you know, I never thought it's a kid.

I'd go, hey, man, how'd you post in this tournament you're in with me? So that's cool. I mean, I just got the chills when you said that. I just cracked my knuckles. I was so excited and nervous. That's. Yeah. I mean, it was cool.

I'm surprised you weren't like. It's unbelievable, obviously. I'm sure it's changed a lot from, you know, 15 years ago. but when I play with him in Greensboro, I mean, who couldn't have been more awesome to play with? You know, and we were both in the mix. Then he ended up making like a triple boge at 11 that day and kind of just kind of killed his chances. And I was kind of still in the golf tournament at the time. Matter of fact, the next hole we two to all from Davis-Lillian finished.

Davis-Lev won that tournament. But he'd shot like 64 on Sunday. And I was basically like one back with like seven or eight to go. And I had a couple of big putts coming in a stretch. and he kind of walked by me and kind of gave me a putter tap on the butt and said come on knocking in stuff like that.

So he was incredible to play with. So you're saying you haven't had many interactions it's kind of an understatement. It feels like you've done everything with him. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, just one, just the one time is everything you could dream. I would love to play a couple

practice rounds with him and pick his brain some. I just really never had the opportunity. You know, he shows up in tournaments a lot different times than I do. Most weeks. So, I mean, he's coming in for the program, and then obviously I haven't been in a lot of the big field event. So just haven't had a lot of opportunities to do that. But I think it'd be awesome.

Just pick his brain for a few times. It's just cool. I mean, it's cool even to hear tour guys just talk about, like, yeah, that's, you know. Well, I mean, he's such a mythical figure that even tiny little things are, like, big deal. In a butt tap, like, I'd never forget that ever if I got that. That would make it move. No. Your first question was, what makes a move?

That would make it move. Yeah. I was blown away. I mean, I'll never forget it for sure. I mean, it was a part of it. It was literally to keep me in a golf tournament from like 15 feet. And he kind of nudged me on the butt, kind of knock it in, you know. I was like, that's cool.

You make, you make it? And then, you know, I made that day, the highlight of that day, I had the hole in one with him on number three. And he looks at me as I make it. We're walking up to the green. And obviously he kind of tapped me on the head, and gave him like a tap on the head, like, you know, like a little kid, like made a hole in one with him.

And he said, that's the first one I've ever put on a card. And I was like, what? And he's like, nobody's ever made a one with me. I've made him my whole career. He goes, you're the first one that's ever made a one in my dream. What? I mean, I legit think there's nothing you haven't done with Tiger League. Have you had sex with me?

Do you have that card? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the most famous. Dude, this is like when. This is like when Chapel is like, oh, there's no trees at our golf course when we went out there. to Washington, the whole thing was tree line. He's like, no, I never really talked to Tiger.

He's just told me I've done something, literally the best golfer of all time. I've done something that has never happened to him on a golf course before. He tapped me on the butt. We've talked in the scoring tables. We went out to dinner. You know, everyone knows each other. You know, I sleep in his guest room. Southern dudes, man, just so low-key.

Like, it's insane. That's all you talking about Browning. You know, Tiger more than anyone. You're going to mean, if this guy runs for president, you're going to be in his cabinet. I hope, Seth. Yeah, it was pretty cool, man I do have it.

I do have it like up in my A little simulator room at the house And I got the card And he gave me his glove signed And obviously he's got a signature on the card I got it kind of in the glass frame It's pretty cool How many hole in ones do you have

I mean I feel like Yeah, every store is man Oh yeah, I got a hole in one on three You know Last week actually in the pro am on Monday That was my 13th Okay Pretty damn good man

Have you ever seen those videos? I think the European tour puts them out where they'll give a guy or a pro just like 500 swings. I don't know if I could do it. No? Just the endurance? I think it's really cool. I think it's really cool that they do it.

So hard to do though. So hard to do. So I just went on a crazy run of whole and ones like three or four years ago. I made five in two years on tour. Oh, so when you say, Does that mean only in tournament hole-in-ones? So on PJ-2, I made five in tournaments, in tournaments.

That's a crazy stat. Five on tour. Like, it's crazy. I don't know. Phil Mickelson have five more than one on PG-Tor. I'd like to put that. And also he was saying. That was when they were doing that rocket mortgage thing, too, where, like, they were giving

away those mortgages for all those whole-and-ones. Remember that? Yes. So I had those all during the game. that stretch. So I've got five mortgages for people. Where do you think you rank up against, like, other PGA tour players who have had hole-in-ones on tour?

It's got to be the greatest whole one player of all-time. It can't be that far off if you're, if not the best. Pound for pound, you're number one, maybe. I think it's high. I think it would be high. It's got to be really. Oh, yeah. Dude, if he's not one, he's like two.

Like, how many who's going to get more than like five? I see the record, I think, is like, 10 or 11. I'm looking at. But like that again, like, pound for you having five and two years is outrageous. That's not even that's all the sight bullshit. Who has it?

And he was saying Frankie, when you brought up the European Jordan thing in terms of like 500 swings, he was saying it would be hard because of the number of swings not because he couldn't do it, right? Yeah, for sure. I just think it it would be so frustrating. I feel like what would be your

ideal hole and yardage? and club if you if you have to do that challenge like the number just the number like where the pin is is that like

I'd probably go like an eight iron I don't know about 160 yards or something eight iron that's probably what I'd do it with big a seven iron

for me yeah just strong seven just a full wedges wedges would be trying to spin too much you'd be like trying to throw it behind the hole

and spin it. I don't know. Yeah, it'd be like a soft beta Yeah. I would try to pound an eye and pull it left. I'm gonna, I'm gonna start hammering some little prop bets on like Brownie. That's a good point. Especially if he gets one.

It sounds like it's a domino effect. Right. They do come. They're coming much. It's weird how that happens because I have made one now. I mean, I guess it's been three or four years since I made those ones and I made another one this past week on Monday.

So they tend to come in. You say that, but they don't come in bunches. They don't come at all. Like you're saying that like, yeah, you get one hole in one. You get five of them right and right. What are we talking about? Maybe not a hole in ones, but I think the hole out. Okay.

That makes sense. Again, does it? I'll give it out. So I was texting with Kevin Kisner earlier and asking him, you know, What should I potentially bring up? And he said, you can always talk about Brownie thinking he can sing. Said he paid some dude in a bar that was playing music a long time ago for him, Brownie, to get a song in.

And when he got up there, he totally forgot the words to Wagon Wheel. I did, man. It was so bad. And I don't really think I can sing. Kevin just gets me in these spots, these awkward spots like that where I've been drinking, you know, I don't get up there, and whatever. And literally, he did pay the guy. And then I got up there and I was like, man, I don't even know words in this song.

That is a true story, though. Tyler Farr, you got up and, you know, you kind of did like a little duet with them almost. Yeah, that was kind of cool. See, I thought you were pretty good there. I don't know for a while. Colt Forge program. And we kind of keep in touch. Tyler's a good boy, man.

I thought those guys did a great job at kids' events. So Frankie was. playing the drums with Lee Bryce just like last week. I went to his show on Long Island and I went to go see him in the bus after and he's like, we're about to record a song that we wrote today. You want to lay the drums. What the fuck did you say to me? I thought he wanted to fight me at first.

I'm like, what are you talking about? And then I sat down. He's like, yeah, like play the drums. He's like, be a musician, be an artist, do it. I'm like, I can't do this. I'm like, I've never heard this song. He goes, no one's ever heard the song. I just wrote it.

So I played the drums. And he says he's going to send me, he's going to send me like my verse. version of the song. So, like, when the song comes out, I can, like, compare, like, my song to, like, the actual, the guy, Donnie Marple, who's, like, an incredible drummer in Lee Bryce and the love canons. I'm, like, a huge Lee Bryce fan now. You got to be, you got to be a song that's probably going to be, like, a number one country hit. That's pretty cool. It's awesome. Yours is just way worse. Probably, yeah.

Or way better. Well, no. Sweet if it's better. Dude, I was, like, playing a, like, every note. How did you feel you did? I thought I did pretty, pretty good for not knowing what was coming next. He never heard the song at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's just like, here it comes. Following along with him. He's like, here comes a chorus. I'm like, all right, I don't know. And then you make up your own beat or whatever. Yeah, it's kind of easy to like go to the beat. I mean, not when you're tone deaf. You're right.

Well, tone doesn't have, well, you don't have rhythm or tone. But that was a fun event, Kisner's. You know, I was actually going through. I've been keeping a lot of my lineers. I've been telling people this. I've been keeping a bunch of my stuff that we, you know, I have two Super Bowl tickets in prime condition. I got Stanley Cup game.

I've got Masters media master's media master's a sentimental guy dude it happened like just from not realizing that I've been keeping it in my drawer and drawer next to my that's a draw draw draw drawer next to my bed and like I've just like stockpiled all this really cool memorabilia from these events and just last night I went back to my parents house and I found the Kevin Kisner foundation line so I'm going to add that to it that's great it's pretty cool yeah it's a good event. It's a very fun event. We have to so. That didn't land too hard. It didn't land. It didn't land your story

didn't land. Didn't land. Don't give them that. I deserve that one. Brownie, when are we going to have a rematch? We got to have a rematch. Yeah, we do have to have a rematch. Because I, you know, I mean, I don't know how I feel about you beat me. We didn't play on number one. You know, it really wasn't a full match to last year. But, you know, I lost. So I'm going to have to have a How many strokes did you give him?

So we had the same deal as Kiz, but we started on two T. So it was only a 17-hole match, and what people don't understand is, yes, Kiz beat me five and four, but right after that is when I heated up, and I, like, pared the last, like, four or five holes. I think if you could have won one more hole off, Kiz, it would have been tight. Exactly. How many strokes was it? It was 14, right?

Yeah, and you got, and you were stroking on every hole coming in. Yep, exactly. And so that's why I kind of, the five of four looks bad because it was, Kizdust of me. But I was only like one or two holes difference with you. And I ended up winning on 18 because I got so many goddamn strokes at the end. And then I finally played okay. That's right.

So if you could have just, you can beat you next time. I agree. I definitely agree. I actually just saw Link's Jim's posted a bunch of gorgeous, like, prime time photos of Palmetto. It got me all jacked up. Have we done the one club thing yet? What is that? So we got to do the five iron challenge.

That's, we got to work with scheduling. Kids is playing a ton coming up. And I would like, you know, you and I were talking a lot about how much you were helping me out there. I would like you to be there for that. So we need to schedule that when we're there. I think that you think I can win that thing. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, the one club thing for sure.

Yeah. Kids are just a five iron. I can beat him my whole bag. Yeah, it's going to be tough because we're not doing the strokes for that one, right? He was on your side. Straight up. Straight up. You don't feel that confident all of a sudden.

It's like you took a little bit of ice and you thought about it. You're like, wait a second. No, you could do it. Listen, I think he's going to sheet. I still think he's going to bust. I mean, I still think he's going to bust 78, one club. Yikes. Not good, yeah.

Okay. I think I shot 84 Pometto. So, I mean, yeah, I got to tighten up. But now you know, though, that's, that course, nobody realizes. Like, everybody says that when they come there, like, oh, my God, it's so hard. And we just know where to hit it now. So it doesn't seem that hard for us. Now that you've seen it one time, though, you kind of, I think you'll play better to miss it around.

I agree. The greens are treacherous. You got to know where to miss and whatnot. But I think he's going to find himself in spots. If we played Palmetto, I know people think that favors him dramatically because he, it's, you guys, he literally lives off the year, both live on the golf course. But around those greens are just a five iron. Like on 16

Is that the par 3? That's right On 16 he Like it's like 220 He couldn't get there The 5 iron So he rope drawed one up there Just short right

And the pin was like back left On that little shelf And he just couldn't get it on the green You just kept punching it over and over the green So I think things like that will happen Where I'll be able to take advantage of him He'll be like pretty damn consistent But I think he'll have holes where he just blows up

It's a lot Yeah Are we doing strike play or match play? We're doing match play Yeah I mean, the thing is, he's got more double potential than you will, well, hopefully, than you will, with the five-miron. But it'll be tough. He'll be tough to beat.

All right, Brownie. I know you're busy. You got a tournament to win down in Puerto Rico. So, you know, good luck out there. Are we feeling good going into it? You like the course, like you said earlier. I like the course, feeling good. You know, it's going to be – it's a weird week because it's –

It could get really windy this week they're calling for. So it will see. It should be good. I've had a lot of success here every year pretty much. So I think there's one year. You know, I didn't play so good as year after I won. But other than that, I've had some good runs here. So I'm looking forward to it.

Do you like, like, do you think the wind, if it gets really windy, helps you or hurts you versus the field? I don't mind a little bit. But like today during the program, I mean, it was. blowing. Like, you know, I mean, it's blowing 25, 30 million an hour. So I think it's hard to play and that stuff, but it'll be hard for everybody. You know, there's only been like one year here where the scores weren't like crazy low. I mean, the year that I won, I think I shot 20. So it's usually 20 under to 22 under usually wins. But the golf course is really wet this year, so it's

playing a lot longer. So I'm kind of interested to see where the scores are going to get to. Well, good luck. Play well. We'll be following you. We appreciate the time. And, you know, ride this train coming off a huge T2 finish over $700,000. That's some momentum, my man. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks, guys, for having me on. All right, Brownie. Good luck this week. Thank you. All right, guys. See you. All right, folks. We are now joined from Bridgetstone Golf.

We have Elliott Mello and Adam Rayberg. Did I get that correct? Correct. That is correct. All right. You are here with, Myself, we've got Trent, we've got Frankie. So we've got the whole squad.

This week we're talking on Thursday of the Genesis Invitational out at Riviera, Tiger Woods. He's obviously a Bridgestone golf ball guy now. You guys have the new ball out. So we really would like to hear a lot about, you know, the new ball and kind of the involvement with Tiger. What's the boss man using? Talk us through it a little bit, fellas of him. don't mind. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, we've worked with Tiger for a number of years now. The relationship between Tiger and Bridgetown goes back 20 years at this point. You know,

so we manufactured a golf ball for him that was used under another manufacturer's name, but it was made here and designed here at our facility in Covington, Georgia. And, you know, if you think back to the year 2000, when Bridgetown and Tiger kind of teamed up on the first golf ball, that product revolutionized the way that Torballs are made. And our guy ultimately used that to go on and win the Tiger Slam. So here we are 20 years later, and Bridgetown and Tiger are teaming up again, and we got a new cover that kind of transcends the urethane that's on traditional tour balls. And it's a new material called Reactive that kind of stretches the boundaries of what's possible.

It's faster than ever off the driver and more control around the green than ever, and it's really the most involved that Tiger's ever been designing a golf ball. You know, in the past when he was with that other company, there was kind of a middleman, so to speak, and he wasn't quite his hands-on. But these last two years with Tiger, going down to see him in South Florida, working with them out at the tour events, designing this new golf ball, this new material, has been quite eye-opening, and it's a real step change. So what's Tiger like in that process?

Does he come to you and say, hey, okay, here's what I like about my current ball. I know, you know, we're obviously going to work on improvements and changes going into the new model, or do you go to him with ideas and he sort of signs off on him or doesn't? like what does Tiger Woods want and what feedback does he give on the golf ball and how to kind of engineer it? So it's a little bit of both. We'll go to him with new technologies and materials, but for certain, we're picking his brain as much as we can. I mean, the dude's the greatest to ever walk on grass. So we're picking his brain and we're trying to figure out what little tweaks he needs in the golf ball.

And he kind of starts leading us down a path of whether he wants it to hit a different window or, feel a little bit softer around the greens or have him a little bit built for a little more distance. So we're kind of R&Ding in the back, you know, and making new materials and making new product, but then we're also picking his brain at the very beginning and just in trying to analyze what he kind of needs more inside the golf ball. So it's a very good give and take between Tiger, the human R&D, and then our actual R&D team here in Covington. You know, it's crazy because he actually, you know, that Adam's point, you know, we're prototyping, there's AI, we're hitting things on robots, but Tiger actually can give us feedback above and beyond what you get

from the robot in terms of how the ball feels on the face or what the ball can do if he changes the angle of attack or the way he wants to kind of work the golf ball, things that we physically can't do with a programmable robot. Tiger can hit those shots for us and provide that extra layer of feedback and kind of helps guide the prototyping into the next phase and ultimately the golf ball that comes to retail. Yeah, that's what we call that the force. That's what the force is. Tiger's better than a robot. He's better than a robot. Half man, half machine.

That's what you're going to get. He is one with the force, for sure. So we hear all the time on coverage, you read stuff, you hear, you see little lines and articles about how Tiger uses the softest ball on tour. They say that all the time. Is that true? Is that what he likes? Is it softer than other golf balls?

What's the truth behind that? Yes, absolutely. You know, from day one of working with Tiger when we signed him three years ago, the comment that we kept getting was, and this is from Tiger's mouth, was I grew up playing ballata, I need something that spins, and I'll dial the spin back as needed. And so with that thought in mind, we've always tried to produce the spinniest golf ball around the green that we possibly could for Tiger. And we did that previously, but what this new material does, this new reactive material, it allows the ball to stay on the face longer, or as Tiger says, more face time.

And so at that more face time at a slow impact, like an iron or a wedge, that allows the ball to ride with the club a little bit longer, loft and grooves, bite in, do their thing, so we can have better control on the short game shots. You know, we're out there testing, it's pretty wild because he'll hit a shot, you know, a 10-yard, 15-yard shot, he'll hit some shots that barely get above the waistline, and then he'll hit some other shots that are like a rocket, and they go straight up, and it's fun to kind of watch the way that he really puts the ball testing through the paces.

You know, it's not let me hit the standard shot and see if it checks the box. It's let me hit all shots I have in the repertoire and all ways. is I might use this and make sure that it's really going to work. He's gauging the window of the ball flight on like a 15-yard chip shot. It's unbelievable. Yeah, you know, the launch and the spin that a normal player looks at off of like a driver, for example, that a normal golfer is kind of in tune with those numbers. He's in tune with those numbers on a 15-yard shot in terms of what's the launch angle,

what's the angle of descent, what's the spin rate at landing, etc. And not only does he in tune with wanting to know them, when he's hitting the shots, he can call out the numbers. He says, that one launched at X, and sure enough, we look at the launch monitor, and his eye is spot on with what the launch monitor is measuring. Yeah, I was going to ask, how much of a savant is he, because we've heard the stories of, you know, they'll hand him a driver where the shaft is, you know,

he'll say that, oh, no, this one's, you know, a half a gram wider or something to be like, no, that's, like, physically not possible for a human being to detect that. He's like, no, no, it is, and then they'll go measure it, you know, a little more acutely, and they'll be like, holy shit, Tiger Woods is right. Yeah, the legend is true. I mean, when we lay down the balls out for him to test, you know, and we're setting up trackman and quad and getting all the launch monitors ready, he reaches in there with his wedge, and he kind of scoops him out,

and he's bouncing the ball on his wedge, and he's, daggum listening to the sound that the ball produces in the field just on chipping it, you know, juggling. Like everybody thinks maybe he juggles it for fun, and we all remember the great ad where he did it through his, legs, but he's listening to the ball. That other company. But even what he's not, I mean, he's out there hitting drives, and he's trying to work it. He's hitting long iron's trying to work it.

He can see and feel the difference between like a two compression difference in the golf ball in terms of the different prototypes that we're doing. And just that 2% difference, he can tell that one's maybe moving five yards less than the other one when he's trying to draw a long iron in there. And he gives us that feedback, and, you know, ultimately we use that to kind of better fine-tune the spec for him. So how different is this golf ball than the one he was using previously? The inner workings are pretty similar. So the core, which is where a lot of the initial velocity comes from the mantle, which is what prevents the ball from ballooning off the T, lowers driver's

spend. So the core and the mantle are pretty much the same as what he was using previously. The big difference truly is the cover. So if you think to all the balls that are being used on the BGA torque, with the exception of his, they have what's called the urethine cover material, Uyrthane, essentially there's like kind of three blends of it. There's a hard, medium, and firm. And so with urethane, you can either gear it to be a little more distance oriented or you can make it softer and make it a little more spin-oriented, but you can't decouple the two.

So it's kind of a give or take, if you will. So what this new material, the new reactive cover does on his excess ball, it allows us to push both of those boundaries. So it has what's called an impact modifier, which essentially it customizes the way the ball compresses based on how violently the ball has impacted. So when Tiger's swinging 122 miles an hour out there on the T at Genesis, ball compresses real fast, jumps off the speed with higher initial ball velocity,

but then when he gets up around the grain and he's hitting that touch shot at the lower impact, the face time, the compression time is longer, and that's where the control comes from. So it truly is a step change in terms of how the balls are made. So Bryson's one of your guys, right? Yep, yep, yep. What's that lunatic like working with those golf? balls. We love working with Bryson. The cool thing to me about Bryson is, you know, a lot of these guys, let's say we lay down five protoes in front of these guys. They're trying to pick

which one is their favorite so that we can bring that to market and they can play it on the tour. What Bryson does, he kind of approaches it as completely different. He's out there hitting all five of them and he's trying to find the positive of each of those golf balls. So he hits prototype one and he says, well, that doesn't work, but this allows me to go back to cobra and tell him to do X, Y, and Z to the driver, and then this thing will be perfect combination of driver and ball. And then he goes to the, you know, he goes to the next proto and he hits it and doesn't check up around the green. He says, well, that's not a big deal, because that ball is great off the T, but let me do this and this to the shaps and the wedges, and then this ball

would be perfect. So while Bryson isn't necessarily working towards, he is working towards his spec, but he's also providing the feedback that we use that goes into kind of all four of the Torball based on his, kind of his insights, if you will. The synopsis, what Elliot just said, he's an absolute insane person, but in all the right ways. We love Bryson. We've actually, I mean, we've always had a great relationship with Bryson. I think he's probably a little upset with us now, but he'll come back around. But we love Bryson.

And we think he's phenomenal for golf. He's fascinating. He's different. He gets headlines all the time. He's won a handful of the PGA tour, and he'll win a lot more. So we love Bryson. I don't want him to get, you know, too upset. And it's true.

We do love him. He's always been very good to us. How different is a golf ball now than it was in. in 2000 when tigers out there winning the tiger slam. That's a great question. So at that time in 2000, the ball had gone from a wound golf ball

to a solid ball. So if you think about a wound ball, that's like basically the inside of that golf ball is like 600 rubber bands put together. Kind of like how baseball's made. But what happened with the wound ball is when you impacted it, as each of those rubber bands hit each other,

there was a loss of energy. So translation, ball velocity, and distance sucked with that golf ball. So in 2000, we gave Tiger the Solid Core Torball, and that's ultimately why he kind of lapped the field out there in Pebble, because he's hitting the ball 20, 30 yards past everybody because the technology was so much better. So that was 20 years ago. And so as we transition to the year 2020, what you're seeing now is we've better fine-tuned the way the cores of the ball are made. We've made the cores more forgiving.

They're faster than they were previously. But then on the flip side of that, we're making them stop. unlike we ever did before. So we truly have come a long way, and we're not done innovating. Our competitors aren't done innovating. And, you know, along with our rubber expertise and Tiger's feedback and testing, the future is right.

So I got to ask you the million-dollar question. Everybody's talking about dialing the golf ball back. You guys are kind of representative of big golf ball, if you will, in that debate. What's the situation? How do you guys feel about it? it are you like lobbying strongly to not dial back the golf ball or if everybody's dialing it back you know 10 or 20 percent would that really affect you is there science where you can just i don't know i'm not an engineer can you just make a golf ball go 10 percent less distant like how does what's what's

what's your guys approach to that well that's that's a good question as you might imagine a pop well i mean that was a great question if you get to be honest fantastic the uh i mean so if you think about it The USGA and the RNA, they make the rules of golf, and so that means, obviously, the rules we play by on the course and keep score, but it also means the rules of how equipment is conforming and what the conforming means. And so when you look at the current rules, there's parameters set around velocity, the weight of the ball, the size of the ball, et cetera. And, you know, we have a close relationship with those guys, and we continue to work with them

within the existing rules and whatever the future rules might be. but I think one of the things that has kind of been lost in this whole conversation is the rules are governing the driver velocity. Sure, sure, absolutely, which impact distance. But there's still a lot of area to innovate outside of that that the USG isn't necessarily measuring or regulating right now. So what I mean by that is if you think about the course of a round, you hit 70, 72 shots, maybe more for some golfers, but you're hitting the ball numerous times across numerous clubs. Those are fake numbers. Excuse me. You watch your fucking mouth.

Well, I didn't say what hole we finished. I didn't say what hole we got through. Don't you dare say. But that's what I was saying, if you think about it, they're regulating one club being hit off of a T. They're not necessarily setting parameters on all the other shots currently. So that's why I think that, regardless of what path this thing goes,

I think there's still a lot of opportunity for us to innovate and make golf ball for the average player as well as for Tiger. So you mentioned like the regulations to the golf ball that are in place, the rules of golf. Is it scientifically possible to create a golf ball that we could hit just like to the moon? Could you make one that we could just hit like 400 yards or is that not possible? Would you be doing that if you could? So we have a really good relationship with our friends at Tyre. They're polymer scientists and engineers.

So we're very certain as a golf ball brand and innovators inside of rubber and polymer that we'd be able to innovate the ball, whichever way the USDA goes. But within the answer, you know, more specifically answer that question, within the current rules, I mean, we're pretty close to maxed out in terms of what we can do off the teeth. You know, if the ball was heavier or smaller than what was currently allowed, or if we could increase the elasticity, the initial velocity, then certainly we could get 400, 500 yards out of it. But within the current rules, we're kind of up against the fence.

Let's say, hypothetically, you're talking to three guys who don't care about the rules. Could you make us and send us golf balls that we show up on that first tee? Yeah. And we're just hitting it four or 500 yards. Moon balls. Yeah, absolutely possible. Okay. You slap that B on there.

You put whatever branding you want on that thing. Again. I'm telling you. Hypothetically, if we were just like, gave you our address once this was over. I just give them my dad for like his birthday. Yes. Your dad would love those.

My dad starts drilling the ball. Like what is happening? He's spinning the ball back 25 yards. Again, it's all hypothetical. Yeah, hypothetically. Well, you know, it's a good conversation because it goes kind of down the lines of, you know, what percentage of golfers are keeping score and playing by the rules and what percentage are, you know, out there to have fun and have a good time with it.

Definitely. And, I mean, ultimately, it is about having a good time. and I'm telling you, what sounds like a really good time is standing up on that first tee and your golf ball looks like a normal golf ball. It looks legitimate. It's got that Bridgestone logo on it. And I swing,

and it just goes 150 yards further than other people's golf ball. They're like, what the fuck is? His swing speed is 95, and he just hit that. Boy, I really tagged that one. I just got it on the sweet spot. It's a nice 1.75 smash factor. Let's quickly talk about, these chips inside golf balls.

You know, we saw a headline the other day. Someone did it from the gallery saying that there's a new ball coming out, that it has Bluetooth technology and it can even make a siren or something like that where you can find your ball. Yeah. So, like, how difficult is it, or is it even possible to create, like, a tour-type ball with one of these microchips in it so that people can stop losing their ball? I understand it would increase price and all these things.

but like is it possible to actually make a ball that can still do all the things that a Torball is doing right now and have a microchip in it to have statistics and everything you can attach it to your app and all that stuff? Yeah. So chips are a thing that are out there. There's a couple brands that have them in the market. Most of them are working off a technology called RFID. So there's active and passive RFID. So RFID in the passive form would be like the chip in your credit card and it's active form.

it would be broadcasting, sending the methods to your phone. So when you think about both of those, the way a golf ball is made is it's vulcanized, it's heated up, it's cooked, essentially. And as we all know, electronics don't like to be cooked. So there's a level of complexity to making that a chipped golf ball in a high-quality way. And there's also another level of complexity to getting chips that aren't detrimental to performance. So I think that what's kind of currently out there and what you're seeing are kind of

more in the novelty realm, if you will, in terms of the high, rather than the high performance kind of tour level. But I think long term, as you look at kind of where the world is going with technology, I think eventually someday somehow somebody could potentially get there from a tour standpoint. But I think right now a lot of the stuff that you're seeing is more of kind of hit it, find it type stuff as opposed to high performance. All right. That makes sense.

Well, look, this was a lot of fun. I don't know if you guys have any questions for us or Frank U.S. aren't you guys have any more questions. But I thought this is very interesting, is very fun. The ball now, so it's the Tor B. Tiger's using the Tor B excess. Did I get that right? That is correct.

And it's out, it's available. People can grab it. Do you have a ball? Yeah, they came in a confidential box. No, no, I have one from Tiger's bag. Oh, yeah, that's right. I gave mine away originally to a kid because I had stole his pen and he couldn't get any more signatures at the PJ

championship but then we were in Australia and Justin Thomas rolled me a ball and said look down and it was Tiger Woods's ball so I just want to give that little story out here to the people in the room because I know one of the people in the room I have a ball I know Trent has a ball I have now my goal is to get a ball that's more important than you

I have a ball I have a ball in my backpack right now from Tiger Woods's bag it's in my back in all time that's genius carry around with me we'll see what we have laying around you know we have somewhat of a connection to those type of balls that's been handled and played. So we might see what we have laying around. Where's that ball?

He almost knocked on the hole in 16. Give us all those balls that he's playing with. Yeah, the one that regurgitated from the cup. Yeah. Yeah, what the hell was that? Let's shoot that thing in the space. You guys, science is too good. You spun that thing right out of the cup at Torrey Pines.

Yeah, maybe too much reactive on that ball. Have you ever seen anything like that before? No way. That was sick. I've never seen, I've watched a lot of golf, I'm like you guys, and I've never seen that happen to where it just... It should count. It broke the plane.

Does Bridgestone have like a huge meeting, like a conference table meeting about what, like this tiger, like, call you guys all into a conference room and be like, what happened here? And I don't ever... And he basically uses the force and, like, shoots people into the windows and shit. Like, don't ever... If I drain, if I go drain all from 140 yards, that fucking ball better stay where it's supposed to be. Yeah, choke forces. Choke forces. Got in the corner of the tables

just starts choking. He's like, oh, tiger, tiger, tiger. Oh, man, that's funny stuff. All right. Elliot, Adam, we really appreciate the time. Thanks, guys. That was awesome. Thanks, guys. Yeah, that was very interesting.

We appreciate you. You guys have a good weekend. You too. Thank you again. See you. Bye-bye.