Fore Play - Serious Drama

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

Massive Barstool inter-office drama has people on edge. Max Homa wins. Islanders fire head coach Barry Trotz. Saudi league chatter heats up. Phil’s got some huge decisions to make. What are the best golf tips we’ve received and used?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay is right barstool sports. It is a very big episode with a lot going on in the world. Currently, we have Max Homa, who just won his fourth PGA tour event. We are one week away from the PGA championship, which is the second major of the year. Tiger Woods will be playing. No clue of Phil Mickelson is playing.

We have more news about Phil Mickelson and potential debts. We have comments from Sergio Garcia. We have a bunch of fan questions to get to. We have some drama at Barcelona sports. We have in the current NHL world, the St. Louis Blues are tied to two. The Rangers are down to one. That could change by the time this podcast comes out. And the New York Islanders have just announced in a stunner minutes ago that they fired head coach Barry Trots after a terrible season.

But the year before and the year before that, they had back-to-back appearances in the Eastern Conference finals. I doubt anybody on this show will have any thoughts on that. whatsoever. The fuck are we do. What the fuck? On the heels of the Rangers being the biggest embarrassment of the NHL playoffs over the last week, the Islanders go out on a day that just didn't need to happen. You just, there's no contracts up or anything.

There's nothing going on. The Islanders are out golfing, enjoying the offseason, you know, let these other teams get their shit done. The Rangers are in the playoffs. They're losing, blowing leads. They can't win in triple overtime. They come all the way back. They get their hearts ripped out by the,

45-year-old penguins. Then all of a sudden, Lou Lamarillo, out of the fucking clouds, fires what is, to me, the most successful bright, shining light in my lifetime as a New York Islanders fan. Barry Trots was the greatest thing that's ever happened to me in my sports fandom life as a New York Islanders fan. And he has now been thrown to the curb, kicked out, saying that the team needs a new voice and this was a decision that was not taken, that was not made easy and it was not made

overnight, which I don't even know what that means. You know, Barry Trots made three consecutive playoff runs, two consecutive finals runs. His record with the Islanders is absurd compared to where they were my whole life. I mean, you're talking eight and 70 type team or like you're talking the worst teams of all time in those early 2000s years with the New York Islanders. And to have, Somebody must have it out for him.

It was like, someone's scoring, like offensive player. I could see Barzell being very against him because it doesn't help his career at all. What do you have, 15 goals or something this year? So Barry Trutz is a system coach.

He's always played like that. Now, the thing that made him successful in Washington was that he had Ovechkin and fucking Oshie and he had Baxter. So like you could play those defensive style and then you also have some of the best offensive players in the history of the game on your team.

So like that's kind of how he used to run his team. Now you come to the Islanders, you put that implement, you implement all that defense, but you don't have those types of players. Like, you know, Brock Nelson, the guy's fucking scored 37 goals. He's an American hero. But you don't have like an Alexander Ovechkin to pair with or you don't have a backsham, whatever. So maybe they're seeing like you need some sort of spark in the offense. But like, dude, their defense scored no goals last year. They had zero.

They had no offense from their defenseman. That's all personnel. So like, how do you just get? Not one defenseman scored a goal last year. They did, but like, dude, like Charas scored a goal. his first goal of season with two games left. Fucking Pellick made have had like three goals. I mean, I don't know that like a defenseman had more than like 15 points all year.

All right. So like that's all personnel. So it's fucking ridiculous, it's my point. Is that like keep the guy who's like the dude, he's second all time in Islanders head coaching wins history. He's only been there for four years. All right. So I expected this reaction from Frankie because I know that he loves Barry Trots. He tweets out a picture of Barry after every.

Islanders win. This was an expected thing for me as a guy on the outside. I am curious to know Lurch and Riggs as guys who are not fans of the Islanders. It's always, you know, it's indicative of a move how your enemies react. So I'll be curious to know how you guys feel not as fans of the Islanders. I would say it's objectively a very surprising move. A very surprising move. He had, I think, one year left. Is that right, Frankie? One year left on his deal. You know, you could, you could, you could, you could justify away this one bad year with the COVID cases and how unlucky they got and how the regulations changed afterwards where teams didn't have to play through and go through all of that.

Still, bad year is shocking. And then you could, I mean, you could argue it the other way, which I'm sure Lou is, which is like, we obviously have the personnel on the team to win. I mean, they were goals away from the Stanley Cup finals. And very realistically, could have won the Stanley Cup if they got past Tampa Bay Lightning. So it's like clearly have the team hasn't really changed. They clearly have the right players to be one of the top four or five teams in the NHL. And then this year were horrific.

So you could explain that away either direction, but you would never, never expect after how good they've been. And like Frankie said, from where they came. It's not like they were awesome. They got buried trots. They continued to be pretty awesome. They had a bad year. It fucking sucked to an embarrassment of the league for decades. And then became one of the best teams in the league playing a pretty unique system against.

And if you look at the scores right now in the playoffs, I mean, all the teams that are successful in the playoffs, scoring a ton of goals. The scores are outrageous in the NHL playoffs right now. And they play kind of a New Jersey devil's late 90s style. It's like trap and commit to the system. But clearly it was working. So I would say overall, it is if overall it was shocking.

When I saw that, I thought it was a parody thing a little bit. Pretty shocking. I'm honestly as like, you know, a rival. I'm happy. It's like, yeah, it's a complete shock. Like, I hated playing against the Islanders. They played tough. I think I was just reading just, I think they went from the last in the league and defense to first, the first year of Barry Trott.

So, like, playing against that style is super frustrating because it slows down the game. They take certain chances. And then you're down one-nothing and you're like, dude, I thought we had the puck for like 70% of the time. So, yeah, I think it's a real shock. Like, that guy's a stud of a coach. He knows what the hell he's doing. That's why I'm saying, you know, I'm shocked to hear some of Frankie with just like the inside baseball knowledge that he has of the team. Because like I feel maybe Lou thought like it was incredibly mismanaged this year with COVID or he lost the locker room because I really don't have much more of an explanation for it.

He had a bunch of good runs and they had one down year, which like can happen in hockey. And they really just set themselves back in the first like three months of the year. And then they were really nowhere to be found no matter how good of hockey they played. So it's a crazy day, honestly. I was like, nice. Maybe they'll get like another coach that will totally eff it up and play a softer system and they'll be shittier than they are. The only thing they have to do now.

And if they go to another route, I'm going to be fucking livid. They have to just hire the assistant coach Lane Lambert, who's just been with Barry Trots the whole time. Maybe just a different voice. I'm hearing like a little inside baseball stuff. Like he's kind of been like already like in charge for most of the guys. Like he's the guy that guys would go to. He's been there forever.

He's a good player. coach. If you just like insert him in maybe I don't know. Part do you want to see a different style, Frankie? Does part of you want to see like a younger, faster, not young, but like running gun hockey? No, no. They tried all the styles my whole life. The team is not built for running gun hockey. They're built to play the same style they did when they made it one goal away from the Stanley Cup finals. I want to do that exact same thing every single year for the rest of my life. And I want to add a little bit more offense. Like that year, they, they went like, oh for fucking 95 in the, on the power play.

in the playoffs that year and still made it all the way through. So like there's little things that always needed to be fixed. This year was a fucked up year. Whatever. There's a lot of things happening in the world. Burner accounts. All this stuff's happening. I definitely affects it for sure.

I went into my fucking Reddit account. I had a, I want to let you guys know something that I use Reddit for deep dark porn. And I had an account to save all my fucking bullshit in there for years. I'm talking seven or eight years of just the fucking most incriminating disgusting just like you couldn't believe and I'm like and I scoured the internet last night to just be like let's just make sure that this search history doesn't just pop up which I'm sure everyone has done at one point or another but we start talking about work IPs and all this stuff coming out that's a nightmare all right that's a full blown fucking nightmare that we've got a nuclear terrorist uh that's trying to release people's fucking search histories and likes if they if the likes came out from a fucking Reddit account I mean you're talking how you know how many cups of come can make a girl full or something? I don't know what the,

I don't know what I was like. Yeah. I don't know what I was like. It's amazing that we were just talking about the I owners and we ended up there, but look, it's literally interesting, interesting time.

Again, we just have a ton to get to. For anyone who does it, I mean, I feel like we probably have a good amount of four pay listeners that have no idea what we're talking about. So we are, we're going to fill you in on a little bit of drama

without really touching on the drama so that you understand what we're referencing First, we can tell you Tommy John. I'm wearing Tommy Johns right now. I imagine we're all wearing Tommy Johns right now. It's the only thing that I wear under my pants. My shorts are these Tommy Johns. I'm here on this trip.

Yeah, Frankie. Frankie showed his. Riggs is about to show his. Bang. We got underwear on the screen right now. Sorry, we're going to start to the show. So we'll just everybody show in their undies.

Nobody revealed their dick. That's good. So Tommy John is the most comfortable maker of underwear in the world. When your summer heat is melting your popsicle, You need underwear that'll keep your tall boy on ice. That's Tommy John. I will say we're down in the south right now. Tall boy.

We're at the Contraband Bayou golf course at LaBerge Casino. And it is probably 91 degrees humid. People are sweating through everything on their person. You got to have the most comfortable things underneath in the world in order to get through this today. And I've got Tommy John. You can shop Tommyjohn.com slash four right now for 20% off your first order. I actually use this, I believe, in the fall. and I ordered like 20 pair of Tommy John because I'm on the road so much trips like this,

three weeks on the road. You just don't want to run out of the good stuff. And then you're walking around, you get chafing, you get all kinds of horrific action going on. And you just can't get behind. If you get behind on that part of your body, you can't catch up. You just can't catch up. You almost have to go to like the hospital and just lie in a hospital bed for like a week and let yourself recover.

So you can't get behind. Tommy John, they're just the best. They're breathable moisture wicking fabric. It keeps you two to three times cooler and dries four to five times. master than regular cotton, get 20% off right now at Tommyjohn.com slash four. That is Tommyjohn.com slash four. See site for detail. So for those that do not know what's going on, and it's not a hockey podcast, it's not a

Reddit podcast, but we're, and we still get, this is going to be a long shop because we've got a million things to talk about. A little bit of drama, bars for sports going on with just some stuff. I don't, I don't want to get into it. I don't want to necessarily be sitting here taking sides. That's not what this show is all about. But it has led to a threat from Deep Zucker, who does. Jake Zucker is sort of the dark web,

uh, huge stoolie who used to tweet out quotes from barstool radio in real time and other things, uh, and take a lot of them out of context and it would just lead to all sorts of fucking chaos with bars to employees. Our lives are public. Our stances are public. Our takes are drama.

Our run-ins with employees. Everybody understands that. But he would tweet out all these different quotes and he would get information and he would be scouring Reddit and scour. and scouring Twitter and scouring every podcast for all kinds of information, trying to throw it in, stir that fucker up and get the best drama that he could out of Barstall Radio and other Barstool personalities. Well, he clearly is on one person's side hard in this situation

and tweeted out that if the hashtag Team Hank is trending, he will consider releasing all the burner accounts on Reddit from Barstool employees. And I will say that it has long been rumored behind the scenes that Barstead, employees use burner accounts on the comment section, on Twitter, on Reddit and other platforms to shape public opinion in their favor and against potentially others. So if that came out, it could clearly be insanely damning to some folks. And now there's a campaign from many people to be like, fucking release it. Let's go.

Let there be chaos in the office. I think it would be fantastic. I'm very much rooting for that. Very much rooting for that. But Frankie's right is that it's a Pandora's box. And I don't know how you kind of cap it once you enter that realm. Just like we're entering. It's almost like we're entering the end game at this point where it's just at some point,

the whole thing's coming down, right? Like I don't know that it ends with one person be like, you're right. You got me. Like that person's not going down without a fight. Like it's all, it's all happening. And like I don't know that we should. It's ugly. It's ugly.

I love Deek. You know, Deke and I worked hand in hand with Barstle radio. He was the only person that tweeted out radio clips. Like we literally had a full team of Barstool Radio. We had social media managers, you know, and Deke Zucker was the only one that would tweet out, like, legitimate fucking quotes from the show that we would then retweet, quote, tweet, use.

Dave, we used it as our radio prep for the day. It was like, Deke Zucker's Twitter. It was like, all right, what's not going on in the world of Barstle? It's an amazing account that we thought people at, we used to think Marina ran it at Barstle. We used to, like, I used to stare at her at. Deek Zucker tweets would be getting fired and I'd stare at her across the office.

And she'd kind of just have her hand on a keyboard and look at me. She knew what I was looking at. And she'd be like, no. You're taking down people though with this. I mean like a burner account, comments, you're taking down relationships. It's tough. You're taking down pillars. That's the problem. If it was strictly like strictly only

released people that would write stuff about other coworkers, then I could understand it. But like you said, you can't really, control it. Once you, once you, once you allow this puppy out, you can't ever bring it back in. It's over. We're just having fun talking golf and you're at LaBurge and like I got fucking a tea time tomorrow. Like, let's just fucking just think about the fair way and green. Maybe that's all blacked everything out. I will say as a guy who arrested, I'm not going to make

everybody, you know, say what how they have or what they have and what they don't have. But as a guy who doesn't have a Reddit burner account, this has been a very interesting 24 hours because I have heard I have heard the rumors as well rigs for a very long time about other employees having accounts doing all sorts of different things and you're right there have been many efforts many efforts over the years to bring down barstool from outside sources a lot of it we've been we've all been through the wars it's been a lot nothing would bring this place down faster than if that Reddit list gets out that much I know that much I am sure of I am positive And again, DEC is a great account

And I don't have a burner So I'm sitting here kind of being like Oh, I kind of want to see Somebody press the button Like you're kind of looking There's a red button on the wall And you're like, I don't know, just press it maybe

And I understand the fallout That's like being in a war room You're like, you know what? We can just get rid of this problem today If we all just press that button And then you're like tomorrow You're like Fuck, we never should have pressed that fucking button

I'm with you. I see both sides of it There is a funny aspect of it Where you know when a it's It's sort of like You don't want a cop is following you and you know you haven't done anything wrong. But you're just like, man, I hope I don't get pulled over because maybe I, my tail lights out or something. I also have that part of it too where I know I don't have a Reddit burner account.

I've never created one. I also, I don't go near that Reddit because it's, it's a lot. For people who work here, it can be a lot. So I never got involved with it, really. But I still feel like there's a cop following me. And if that list comes out and be like, wait a second. But I don't think that's going to happen. But it's right now it's.

at Barstle sports, there's a lot of tight buttholes. It's a great analogy. Every employee has a cop behind them, and some people feel like they have a SWAT team behind them, and they're just waiting for the lights to go on. Honestly, like, you know, like it's a miscommunication, like, oh, no big deal, like, hey, you didn't turn on your blinker, like a misdemeanor for anything you did or nothing at all.

Some people have legitimately, like, the U.S. Army behind them. Some people are probably hammered drunk driving with, like, two flat tires. Like, wow. Oh, no. Some people are holding an unregistered AK-47 being like, oh, no, I hope this, we don't get pulled over here. Like, would this be bad if we got pulled over here? Really bad. If those lights go on, man, I'm not getting out of this place for the rest of my life.

Just hit, right, just like you're at a red light and then all of a sudden you just hit the gas. Boom! Whoa! Someone's just going to hit the gas. It's like, all right. Right. Because whoever's got that locked AK-E 47, this list comes out, they have a chance to stop and face that officer. or just hit the gas and run for the effing hills and never return or never to be seen again.

It really is kicking a bees nest where you know where it starts, but you just don't know who's going to get hit. So, I mean, I don't know if Deke's going to do it. Again, it's that red button that it's just so enticing that everybody kind of wants to see. But Frankie is at the end of the day, probably right, where it's just not worth it. Because I want to be able to pay rent. I want to be able to, you know, I want to be able to do everything we've been doing. And there are things in this world that can happen where all that just goes away and a burner Reddit list is probably one of them.

Deek taking Reddit list.com away from me is something I'm going to have to deal with for a long time. And for anyone that doesn't know what I'm talking about, you can go and do your own little search history on what that has to do with. But you go to Reddit list, you hit the NSFW on that little icon there. And it's the most itemized, beautiful place of the internet you've ever seen your entire life. But the problem is a lot of times you have to do things in there that you don't want to have to do or tell you. kids about. So he took that away from me last night and that was that was unfortunate. I kissed goodbye to a really fun time in my life and uh, it is what it is. I feel lucky right now because I'm with Trent. I never dabbled in that world. I don't I have one account. I think it's just Riggs

Barstool and there was a time four or five years ago where I would go in and respond to a few things. I probably haven't logged in more than two or three times in the last year. Red is just not somewhere I ever dabbled in. But I also understand all the analogies. The cop, we're living a great life here. Don't ruin it. It would be the most barstool thing of all time for everyone to try to bring us down from the outside.

And we just, we just bury ourselves. We just strangle ourselves from within in all sorts of turmoil and drama and infighting and horrific stuff that was revealed by ourselves because of our own things that we've done. It would be very fitting for personal sports. I also don't like that, that world with IPs and who's

a counseling to what. I don't know how accurate that is. So like, if you, what if he released that misinformation? That's going to, I don't know. How are we going to, like, like confirm Dek Zucker. Like,

Deke Zucker could take the whole thing. I'm, I'm like the, I'm the head of the state, I feel like at the front gates being like, we can't let this guy in for, like, He seems nervous. I seem a little nervous about it.

I don't want the whole thing to come down is my thing. I don't either. It could be some big names in there. I'm just saying, guys, there's a lot of money that's going around this place. And it's just like, who knows what was said? Who knows? You know, I will say for a faceless account,

which is Deke Zucker, he has a very good grasp on what's good and what's bad. Like, he really is an incredible pot stir an incredible content, like motivator in the ways that Frankie described with the quotes out of context and stuff. So I think if this person or lady or man or woman or whoever it is or multiple people who knows, they know that if they press that red button, it's going to end. And I don't know, I think, I don't think they necessarily want to see that either. So, so funny. I were talking about like, the end is, it's so funny. Bro, it's, I don't know if it's imminent, but it's certainly, it feels

closer than it ever has before. What a powerful, what a powerful time to be Deke Zucker. Just really holding, holding all the nuclear footballs, the only man with access to it. Dude, and we we've all, we lived in that office. We grew with that office. We know all

the rumors. We know how like crazy this place could be. Early days bar stool, that first office man, that shit was fucking cutthroat. That was like, you had to just try and survive. I don't know what people did back then. I mean, he's saying He's got things from five years ago.

I'm talking, this could be like, what is it, Watergate? This could be Watergate. I think the cop analogy is a great one too, because God forbid that button gets hit. You're going to see people face the music, and then you're going to see others just run for the hills. Hold people hostage. Yeah, and they're just gone.

That car's not stopping, and they're going to have to shoot the tires out to slow that person down. You're ready to get home hostage. You're right to get help hostage. With Watergate, like there's probably some serious cover-up efforts going on right now, Like once you then, you get into people trying to cover up their transgressions in this world. And this could spiral into something we've never seen before in the history, 20 year history of Barcelona sports.

And, you know, part of me is excited about that. We've said many times at Barstall when you're not the center of the controversy, when you're not getting, you know, roasted by Dave and Barstall Radio and whatever else, it is so fascinating to follow. But when you are the center of it, it ruins everything about your life. It sucks. It can be the greatest reality show in the world. And I like the team Hank thing, the hashtag team Hank thing was the number nine trend on Twitter in the country.

Like it's it's a when this when this place has something like this and and it's it's just people can't get enough of it. There's no other company like that for better or for worse. Like there's you can't name any other media company in the world that has the infrastructure that we have with all the podcasts and the games. gambling and all this stuff where it's just like this really, you know, innovative media brand. And then there's just this part where when you throw a bunch of weird brains together, weird shit happens. And Dave has been smart for 20 years where if you just put them together, even if they're not in the same office, which we were for a while, now it's a little bit more separated.

But even if they're just within each other's orbit on the internet, weird shit is going to happen. And it just people can't get enough of it. And it's another one of those right now. seem a little higher right now with this one, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a part of barstool that has been here since the beginning. It's crazy. Man, you expose secrets, dude, and you, you, you see people change quickly. Things are, oh yeah, I mean, yeah, the whole thing is insane. Yesterday was an insane day at Barstool Sports on Twitter. Just, I almost crashed my car when I got certain news. I was driving and I

got news and I almost crashed my car. Literally, I started honking the horn. Just like, things were just fucking things have just palming the no and even that's just like news or just like what what what's happening just so much news was happening on Twitter two news things leak on Twitter two

in an incomplete fashion so you gotta kind of piece things together a little bit you gotta like reach out to people but not the not like the wrong people so you kind of you're trying to piece it together without coming off like you're piecing up together it's just who it's unlike anything else it is unlike anything else

a company. KFC just did like, if you, if you've been talking shit about KFC behind his back and then act like you're like a normal person in real life, that,

that's an insane thing. Like, I just don't know how people are going to be able to live like that. So it's, you know, I, I'm an agent of chaos.

I do enjoy chaos. I mean, I've always thrived in it. I, you know, oh, I don't want to say this. Well,

yeah, well, like, when, like, when things were happening when the virus started popping up, do you remember that feeling of like,

whoa, the world's like changing right now. Like this is kind of crazy. Like the basketball players were getting taken off the basketball court. You're like, this is kind of like. We're living through a movie. You don't want to say it's cool, but it's definitely different. Like work got canceled for a week. You're like, what's happening?

I can't leave my apartment. I remember saying to my roommates like, there's something happening right now that we're going to remember for the rest of our lives and I'm kind of happy to be a part of it. And then it got to a point where it just became absurd. I mean, it was three years. But it's intriguing. It's like if each day that you wake up is, much the same and you could consider life pretty mundane and boring, when something that is

pivotal and you know is going to be remembered forever is happening, it's definitely intriguing. I know what you mean. And you get that sense around you of like, something's happening here, fellas. Something's going on. It may not be good. I hope it's good. But like, at least something's happening. On a much smaller scale, my brother and I used to feel that way about big blizzards that were coming into Cedar Rapids. You're just kind of like, they're like, this is the biggest one in five years. And my brother and I were like, that's what's that going to look like that they're going to shut down the streets they're going to cancel work they're going to cancel school and you just you have that feeling of like holy

shit this is going to be something that's going to like change to see this yeah it's going to change my normal everyday activities so um yeah exactly it's exactly it's yeah this thing that's going on at barcelor right now is it's something uh well look as you know we're talking about um intriguing exciting i don't know if you guys witness I imagine you did what happened at the Kentucky Derby on Saturday. One of the coolest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Game time, all right, you want to be there? That's a moment where you could say, if you were at that Kentucky Derby,

be able to hang your hat on the fact that you were at that event would be something you could talk about forever. Game time would be the best way to do it. Game time is the exclusive ticketing partner of Barcelona Sports. They are the new ticketing app that makes it easier than ever before to score last minute deals on tickets to sports concerts and shows. they guarantee the lowest price. Download the game time app.

You go to the account tab, click a create a login, redeem code for you get $20 off your first purchase terms apply. Download game time, last minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. What an absolute event that was. What a moment. Rich strike coming from a billion lengths back. No chance. Zero.

None whatsoever. Not even a thought, not even a consideration. Navigates his way through the back of the pack, comes racing up and steals it. has the longest shot, amazing call from the announcer, right as he crosses a finish line of the longest shot has won the Kentucky Derby. And you're just getting chills the entire time.

The drone aspect of it that has changed everything, where you get the true aerial look at what happened. And it's all these moving pieces on a board. And one of them just vaults up to the front. That video is going crazy viral. So again, game time. Make sure you're at events because events are the best thing ever. These guys went to a basketball game.

I've still never been to an NBA game. We got playoff hockey going on. which we've already been discussing. So use game time. Use the code for F-O-R-E. You get $20 off your first purchase. But yeah, Kentucky Derby was as cool as I've ever seen in my entire life.

Dude, it's just one of those moments. It was one of those sports days. You had playoff hockey during the day. You had playoff basketball. Then you had the Kentucky Derby. Then you had the Rangers that night. It felt like a day. We were at a bridal shower.

Canello. Conella was out. All the dudes from the bridal shower were all at one house. We were like 25 guys. It was a great day to be around, like, everyone and drinking beers and the boys, watching sports.

And then we did this fucking thing where like you throw everyone's name number. You throw a number in a hat and then you just pick a number. And in racing, horse racing, you know, you figure that out of the 21 horses that were running or 20 horses that were running, 17 of them had no chance. So like if everyone threw in the same amount of money, 17 guys were like, this is fucking ridiculous. Like it's just I have no chance. Making fun of the guy with the worst odds, rich stripe the whole day. Like you're just a loser.

You got like at the time when we picked it, like the odds were 99 to 1. We're like, you're just an absolute nobody. Sean like you just can't win anything in your life and all of a sudden like we're watching that and everyone has the same story but you're watching it and you're like can't believe this guy's fucking making this run right now and fucking Sean's going crazy red in the face the little he's purple standing in front of the TV he wins no one believes it not one person believes that that just happened it's just uh it was a moment it's a moment you'll always remember it's maybe one of the best sports like clips I've ever seen in my life of just where he got like I felt like uh

in the movie The Star is born, you know, when the dad's like, I was like 250 of those views. I could not stop watching the drone video of that horse, like coming, finding a pocket, sprinting through that. And then the last 200 yards, it's the fastest thing I've ever seen. It gets into this crazy gallop where it's like, that might be the fastest object in the world at this point in time. It is moving so damn fast. And the other horses are flying. And it's picking up like a half length of a horse every gallop.

It was honestly amazing. Well, that was crazy too because every time I kept rewatching it, when it would go, when Rich Rydraig went from like 18th to even like sixth, there wasn't that much race left. It was like, no, I felt like I'd been watching those two leaders run down the stretch for 10 minutes at that point. And he's still like 10 legs back and in like six place. And I'm like rewatching it like, oh, that must have been edited.

Like he didn't actually win. And it's just like, like you said, the last 100 yards, It just vaults ahead of everyone, lightning pace. And I mean, if they, if they would have kept going, that thing might have won by, it might have lapped the entire field effect. Like, it just was shot out of a fucking can. And at peak speed,

that horse was running two to three times faster than all the other horse. It felt like fast forward. I don't know, man. And like the jockeys are insane. Actually, we had a jockey at the party. One of the dads of my buddies used to be a jockey. And he's talking to us about what, What you got it.

Yeah, a tiny little fella. You just got to like, the way, the way. I didn't know like how fucking strong their quads had to be. Oh, no. Imagine that you'd fucking flatten that thing like a pancake. Rich Wright would have literally got lapped by the field. If I was on that thing, he bucked off the gate. You know how strong their quads have to be because apparently that, you know,

when you watch them, they're all the way up by the neck and the head. And I think they actually talked about this on the broadcast, but the head of the horse always wants to pull up as, as he's like finishing and they got to fucking push his head down every time he's popping up to keep that thing moment all the momentum forward and you got to keep your quads like perfectly tight and straight so that you're not bouncing with the horse if you watch them they're you can you can put a piece of fucking you can put a glass of water on their back because they're so solid it's it's a really really remarkable feat to be able to ride those things that fast

yeah it was impressive but i agree with you rigs on your point of like because the announcer, I would say, did just of a good job as Rich Strike. Like, the announcer was incredible. Phenomenal. Early in that video, he's like, and into the final furlong, and at that point, he's in like 17th place, it feels like. So, no, I don't know how long a furlong is. What is it?

Anyways. Quarter mile. Your guess is it good as mine. How far is it right? I would assume a quarter mile, maybe, because it's like the last fourth. I really are. Distance expert either, usually. Right, but anyways, that throws, like, the video off.

and then he just rips to the front. I can't wait to watch it. He's got the voice, too. I mean, there's a reason he's in the job, but it's like, and he's, here comes, switch strike is coming up the inside and the longest shot is one

that Kentucky Derby. And you're just like, oh, my fucking God. You're like going crazy with him. It's just, it reminded me a Doc Emric when he would just like, how many scars

in the last second of the game? And you're just like, how was his voice that perfect for this moment? I'm losing my fucking mind. It was awesome. It was absolutely. Tommy smokes that the call of the, of the triple crown,

With what's his fucking name? What was the Triple Crown? Oh, Secretariat way back? No. No, Triple Crown. That's a war or something. No.

War ember? No, no, that was a... No. Are you kidding me? Justify? No. American Pharaoh? American Pharaoh.

When American Pharaoh won at Belmont, that call, if you go back and listen to that, could be considered the greatest call in sports history. Just everything about it. Triple Crown, the crowd, his call. And then American Farrow was so ahead of everyone. So he had that like 10 seconds to call it as American Farrow is crossing the line. It's something to definitely, after you listen to this podcast, go back and listen to that because it's all time.

I'm going to need to re I'm going to need to re-listen because I enjoy this. I think that the I'm going to always believe the Al Michaels. Do you believe in Miracles call is probably the greatest call in sports history? But I haven't. I'm not familiar with the American Fair one. So I have to check that. This one's probably not going to have as the greatest call on sports hit, but it was so perfect for the moment and the upset.

I think they said that was the second, was that the second longest odds in the history of the Kentucky Derby, which is like 150 years old to win the Kentucky Derby. You just, I mean, you just came and imagined it. Got in last second because of somebody else dropped out with Drew. It was awesome. It was absolutely awesome. Very inspiring, gave you chills the whole time.

So that was very cool. All right. On to golf. I guess we'll discuss golf on the four-play golf podcast. We're now, oh, yeah, minutes into the show. Max Homa, really his third win of the year. He defeated the four-man scramble at auction Southern Dunes. And then he, of course, goes on, you know, you could say we're on a pretty big hot streak with the four-play bump. We had Scotty Shefflon. He wins the Masters

Tournament. Well, we play a scramble against Max Homa. He goes out a couple weeks later and wins on the PGA Tour's fourth PGA tour win. If you recall, when we played against Joel Damon a couple years ago, year and a half ago, he went out like a few months later and won his first ever win on the PGA tour. So the four-play bump is pretty hot right now. I have to admit that. But Max Homa, you know, he really is kind of gets up there with Rory in my mind, but he's really up there as from a personality standpoint and a way he handles the media, interviews, social media, and then that combination of how good he actually is at his sport, he's got to be one of the top. if you factor both those things in at the same time.

He's not just good anymore. He's won four fucking times in the last like two and a half years. He went from 2017. He, I believe, made two cuts and made $18,000. And now he's vaulting into, I don't know, where he's at in the official world golf rankings. He was like in the 20-somethings, I believe, coming in. Now he's got to be a quick search.

Max Homa is 29th in the official world golf rankings. He keeps playing the way that he's playing. he's probably going to get to top 20, top 10 in the world. And yet he's also probably the most active on social media. He does every interview from us to other golf podcasts, to pardon my take, to anything that he's asked to do he does with people. So that like that like one two punch of being really fucking good at your sport

and also just being insanely down to earth and normal in the way that he interacts in everything that he does, he's pretty much top of the list, I would say. And still not in the top 10 of the PIP. So stunning. Sanity. Stunning lack of execution by the PGA Tour to not have this guy be one of their biggest stars.

It's, and he just is. Like you, on paper, just because we don't see him on that pit piece of paper, a lot of peas there, um, he's a star.

He's a star. Like he's, he is a lot of people, if, when you get caught in the, you almost get stereotyped as the Twitter guy. He probably gets that a lot still. He probably,

to a degree resents it. Like, oh, this is the guy who's really good on Twitter and he roast everybody's swings and that's a lot of fun. He's really funny. But he's also just an extremely good golfer who keeps winning golf tournaments. Like that's who Max Homa actually is. And you're right, he's just a one-two punch. And that golf tournament did not look fun to play it. Like that looked like a horrific, not a fun golf tournament to play in. So to come out on top there, I think what a Jason

day? He shot a 79 on Saturday. Like, and he was leading the tournament when the day started. So like, it was just, it was an interesting tournament to watch. But yeah, Max Homos was a star. We're rooting for him for a couple reasons. One, we're close to him and we do videos with him. And two, hopefully that, you know, bumps the YouTube algorithm and people go watch that four-man scramble. And if you haven't seen it, go watch it because it's another win for Max Homa. He's, yeah, he's, uh, he's just a hell of a player. And it's, I don't, I think it's just the beginning. When you lose to someone, you, like, can take their wins as your wins as well. Like, you know, at this point, like we've lost to a three-time, transit property, 20-22 winner.

like we're I mean how good are we that like we pushed him to a we pushed him to a playoff like we have to be you you look back at how we played max holma and then you look at how he's played against the rest of the pGA tour and it's like we're we're basically number two like right behind him so um I mean the island is essentially won the Stanley Cup last the last two years of the lightning so um but yeah no it's uh totally coach is fucking hurrah it's horrific and players didn't know what's happening it's insane so max won the fortinet championship in September, which was the very beginning of this wraparound season, uh, wins again at the Wells Fargo. He had a top 10 at the Genesis. He at the, uh, players championship was tied for 13th. He still needs to kind of get going a little bit in the majors. He hasn't had the performances in major championships that he would like. He finished T-48 at the masters, uh, but you have to think in a lot of what you guys were

saying and Trent talking about how miserable it was to play out there, like him continuing in these scenarios to, I mean, the Genesis when he won there last year, that's a major championship course. That course is extremely difficult. So for him to win there. And then in these brutal conditions when scoring was not very good for him to get it done, I think eight under is what he was. You end up winning the golf tournament. That's any time these guys are single digits under wins the golf tournament. That's pretty much major championship conditions. So you got to think he's going to start to turn it around. His ball striking is off the charts. We saw that in real time. The way that he drove the ball. He hits it dead straight.

The way he hits his irons, he hits it dead straight. And when he's got his short game working and his putting working like it was, huge par save putting a putt. I think he had like 11. It's just, he just can be one of those players that can win any golf tournament. You got to think going into Southern Hills, which is ball striking PGA championship, brutal rough, firm greens. And then the U.S. Open. You got to like Max Homer.

It'll be kind of a threat going into some of these majors. So awesome for him, a fan of the show, friend of the show, friend of the show, in front of the program has always been close with us, great with us. So he's a top five guy, I would say that we root for out there. And a soon to be, is amazing. Soon to be father. He's just got a lot. Max Homer's got a lot going on in his life.

His perspective was amazing after the Rasp, and he was on part of my take this morning. And just the way he talks about, like winning only $18,000 in his first year and all that stuff and how he knew going into these rounds when you have a lot of stress and maybe you're not going to win it. Like nothing's going to be as bad as the first year that he had on tour. which is such a cool way to look at it that way. The tour is really lucky that they have guys like Scotty Sheffler and Max Homa, and they're going away from like big egos

and like all these like stuffy country club guys that were brought up on like a ton of money that like were legitimately crafted to be PGA tour pros. Like we're just not seeing that anymore. We're seeing a bunch of just. And I think that's because the game has evolved so much more. Tiger Woods is probably a tribute to all that where anyone wanted to go out when they were younger to just go learn the game. You get a lot more athletes now that could play any sport that chose to play golf.

Just regular dudes now are like becoming PGA Tour greats as opposed to, I just feel like back in the day it was like you were, I don't know. It was just you were made to be a golfer and all those guys were so uptight and that was the culture. Now you got Max Homas up there just being so, so real. Being like, dude, this is a fucking grind up here. I made, he lost how much money that first year on tour making $18,000 traveling to all the tournaments. And kids told us it's like basically $10,000 a week if you kind of do it like most people do it. So if you don't make at least 20, you're like losing a bunch of money. You know, you're, you don't make 10 or 20 a week.

You're losing money. And he made 18,000 all year, all year. Be a bus boy of fucking Borrellys and make like triple it. I mean, you know, it's just crazy. It's insanity what these guys go through. But that's their dream. They have aspirations. They know that they can do it.

Shout out to Max Homa for knowing that he could pull it off. And he has to walk one three million this year this season. Fucking awesome. No, he's not making 18,000 anymore, baby. It shows you too, like the. parody of golf, you know, like Tiger Woods brought in all these athletes that a stud of Max Homa's caliber, like could drift making $18,000, you know, a year or whatever, because there was so many other really good players where I don't think maybe that was the case back in the day,

where there wasn't this many people playing the game of golf where, you know, he started 18 grand and now look where he is. And it's pretty amazing that he's accomplished all that and kept confidence to do so. Max Homa also had the driver yet. I'm not that long ago. A few years ago, he had the legitimate driver yips. And now that thing is one of the great weapons on the BGA tour. And he proved that on the 18th hole. You know, when Kegan was kind of floundering a little bit, hitting some weak shots,

Max steps up and just roast a driver down the left center on the 70 second hole in the tournament with a one stroke lead. That's fucking confidence, baby. That's how you do it. That's how you win golf tournament. So congratulations to Max. I'm sure we'll have him on again soon. He's just the best.

He's the man. He was on part of my take. So go check them out there if you would like to get a little bit more Max Homa in your life. Okay, Phil Mickelson. So things are heating up even more so. We're going to the PJ Championship is next week. And the PGA championship defending champion will be Phil Nicholson. He, it's unclear.

There's been reports that he's been discussing with the CEO of the PGA, Sethwa, buddy of ours. If he's going to play in the event, it'd be crazy if he doesn't play in the fucking tournament. He's the defending champion. and the only reason that he wouldn't be playing is because of his involvement in this, you know, rival Saudi Live League, which they're starting up not in too long. So he submitted the release form, the exemption request form for that for the PJ tour. He also applied, you know, to to play in the PJ Championship and the U.S. Open, which we talked about last week. Now from Allen Shipnuck's book, which is coming out next week, he was reportedly $40 million.

in gambling debt in years when he was making like 40 million a year. So potentially breaking even or even worse because those are just the things that were reported. So who knows how much else he could have been losing. Obviously the situation with Billy Walters, that was his name is, Billy Walters with him going to jail and the insider trading stuff that he was rumored years ago to be heavily involved in. Everybody else went to jail for that. He just like didn't. And then again, it was reported that Phil 40 million. million dollars in gambling debt that the you know there's a lot of speculation that the saudi's paid him

money up front to essentially back and support publicly and to play in this league and that he needed that money he sold his plane not that long ago and a bunch of people were saying that his plane was like his favorite thing in the world so clearly must be in some sort of financial situation of you're selling your plane when everyone's saying you're making 40 50 60 million dollars a year why are you selling your plane uh so a lot going on with phil mickleson and a lot more is going to be going on with Phil Mickelson in that I imagine in that coming days he's going to announce and say something publicly. If you want to come on this podcast, Phil, we love to have you. I can't think of a better venue for you to come on and answer questions and explain yourself and where you're at in your life.

And then he'll either play next week in the PGA championship as the defending champion or he'll be just as big of a story because he won't play and this book from Alan Shipnuck will come out. So there's just a Billy Walters. What did I say? I say it was I say it was Billy Walters. Because then I was going to say, what was that, Barbara Walters' brother? I was thinking Billy Walsh, but that's an entourage character. Yep, Billy Walsh, crazy guy in that movie or that show. But Billy Walter is supposed to be coming out with the tell-all book. That'll be a lot about Phil Mickelson later this year as well.

So anyways, a lot going on with Phil, per usual. It's only going to get more dramatic and controversial and reports and fucking stories all over the place when he actually says something and returns. Just a lot of smoke with Phil and the gambling stuff. And if you've followed Phil at all throughout his career, it's always been there. And, you know, the Billy Walters thing obviously was a peek into that, a more like official look into it. But you're always seeing clips of Phil coming out, like on the golf course. He's betting a guy.

He's betting a kid. He's a hundred bucks to hit it around this tree or whatever. And that's obviously small potatoes to $40 million a year. But he's always had that side of him. Everybody's known that about him. And I think it's at least part of why people like him. I kind of got that gambler's mentality, and he certainly has that on the golf course. So the $40 million thing, obviously that's a big number, and it's hard to wrap your head around that.

But like, it's not a surprise to me that Phil Mickelson was gambling large, large amounts over, you know, sections of his career and probably more than that. The most interesting thing with him right now is what he's going to do about the PGA. And I don't know. I just, if you ask me right now if he's going to play or not, I really think it's 50-50. I wonder what he thinks or what he even knows at this moment. Because if he shows up, like you almost, if you're Phil, and we talked about it during the Masters, you wanted to, to quote unquote, burn the press surrounding it before you go to the tournament where you're the defending champion.

Because that's, once you return, if he comes back at the PGA, it's not going to be, oh my gosh, here's Phil this returning PGA defending champion. and it's now all going to be about like where you been what's going on what's going on with the Saudi stuff do you have regrets where do you are you going to play on the Saudi tour like you almost want to go to a warm up tournament before that we thought it should have been the masters because Tiger ended up playing and that was going to be the story pretty much no matter what and now the more Phil puts this off it just makes them return whatever tournament that's going to be the biggest story no matter what and it's going to be a weird um conversion or a weird meeting if it

happens to the pga because there's then it's almost too many fill storylines and we're going to have to pick and i'm pretty sure people are going to pick the negative one about like where you've been what's going on where you're going to be at moving forward as opposed to wow what a great win at keowa last year yeah i mean we could get a billy pain 2010 tiger woods returns to the masters moment where Billy Payne on Wednesday, just eviscerated Tiger and stunned people being like, you know, he was like, you disappointed all of our children forever. And everybody's like, whoa, dude. Like that's kind of, kind of between he and his family.

You know, like I don't think that anything to do with you, Billy Payne. So it could be the BJ of America could be in a very similar situation where I don't know how the fuck they handle it. Because if Phil comes back, he's inevitably going to have to do one of those interviews, right he's going to have to sit down press conference take questions for 30 45 minutes and it's going to be all the stuff that you just mentioned tritt he's going to have to answer them and then he's also going to be as a defending champion someone that everyone is going to have to um a little distraction we got people cruising by couldn't have cared less about what i'm doing here but uh that that he's

he's going to be marketed as the defending champion right and and the pg of america i mean they don't get all year to uh you know uh drive in their revenue and be relevant, you know, as an organization, as a company, like, they get one fucking year, one week of the year where it's go time. They need ticket sales. They need ratings. They need to drive ad revenue. They need sponsors that they can then in the future talk about how many people paid attention to the PGA championship. They've got one of the top two biggest names in the last 40 years of golf that is their defending champion, the oldest major championship winner in history coming back. So they want to be able to cash in and drive interest that way. So they're going to

have to juxtaposition and try to figure out how to navigate these waters too and they might not even fucking know if the guy's playing yet. Would juxtapy be the word you were looking for there? They're going to have to juxtapy. I don't think juxtapy is a word, but I kind of like it. He goes, they're going to have to juxtaposition. Is that correct? Probably not. But you know what I meant. Yeah, but it's not they're going to have to juxtapy. I don't think juxtapy is a word. Come on, guys. You don't think that sounds right. I'm with, I don't know I'm like, oh, you have to go there and juxtapy something.

Oh, no, dude. You can use it is like, oh, it's a weird juxtaposition. I don't know if there's like another form of it. I don't think it's got to go to that meeting and he's got to juxtapy. No. You don't think? Are you thinking of just to follow sentence, Frankie? But it's a form.

Finish a sentence with juxtapos. Juxtapose. Juxtapose. I knew it was something. You're going to have to juxtapose it. You guys were acting like the form of saying juxtaposition in a form of you're about to do it didn't exist. Yeah, I thought juxtaposition was the only way to use it. Yeah, juxtapose.

Damn, we would have never gotten that one, I don't think. Never. Who hit that to us? Is that Jake? No, I just looked it up real quick. Juxtaposition verb, it says juxtapose. To place different things side by side as to compare them or contrast them or to create an interesting effect. I think Phil's going to play in the PJ Championship.

I do too. I do too. And I also want to formally invite Phil to fixing Frankie. Invites wide open. We'll change the name to PHS if you want, the whole thing. So I just wanted to get that out there. Second of all, you're going to invite him to that. Okay, so we got double invite.

He's invited into the podcast and to fixing Frankie. 100%. I mean, if we're putting invades out there. We're going to be doing breaking 90 rounds if he wants to come back. Exactly. That would be great, too. Exactly. So, no, he's going to play the PGA, I think.

You know, the video of him swing in and, like, you know, I know that this book is coming out. But there's no better time to do it than when Tiger Woods is there. I get that. He's never going to be able to get away from it. But just do it. Rip the Band-Aid off. Get there. Answer the hard questions.

A lot of the stuff's going to be, like, somber-fill stuff, I feel like. I'm going through a lot of stuff at home. I've lost a lot of money. This has been a tough time in my life. You guys have seen all the rumors. Like, it's going to be a lot of that stuff where he's going to take. try and, you know, play that card. But just fucking get through it, man.

Just rip the Band-Aid off and go play golf. In two weeks, no one's going to care about it. They're not. The thing is, what are the answers to these questions that people are going to ask, right? Like, if they're, and they're going to be certainly some Saudi-based questions, like, what relationship or agreement does he have with them? Like, that could be a big reason why he's avoiding all this shit, because, yeah, it's easy to say, like, just show up and, you.

you know, tuck your tail between your legs and be like, I was wrong, I did this, and I agree with that. But if on the other side of that, if your answers are going to further infuriate the media and the general public, I would understand why he's avoiding the media. Yeah. Well, here's the other thing about Phil. We got to talk about plague off Myrtle Beach in a second. But Phil, Phil is very good at this. Traditionally, this has been one of Phil's strong suits, right?

Tiger Woods is not. Tiger Woods sits up there. It's always awkward and feels really forced and strained. Every presser he's pretty much ever done except for a few. And every time they're not that strained, we sit here for an hour and talk about how awesome it was. And like, wow, Tiger was smiling. And he actually had a normal conversation with somebody. Holy shit.

Phil Mickelson, this is what he does. So like Phil, it's almost like anyone else that would be that would be the lowest point where I actually feel like for Phil, him, him facing the music. going through this press press conference, there's a, there's a chance with Phil that it could go well enough that it would be considered part of the, uh, climb back up.

It would be considered almost like vaulting him out of it a little bit because now it's all hearsay and speculation and really negative speculation. And there's really no other side that Phil Migglinson is presenting that is allowing him to, uh, sustain or help or improve his image. It's just constantly getting battered and punched and destroyed by everybody and no one's really standing up for him and he's the only one that can really stand up for

himself and again he's usually pretty good at that he's usually pretty good at like talking his way through and and sweet talk in the media and making him laugh and all the bullshit and i think that if he gets out there does this presser it would be considered part of the way like of him like rehabbing and not necessarily be a brutal like right like when tiger went through his depressors and stuff were actually like a really brutal part of it you're like oh he's actually actually admitting to it. Holy shit. Whereas the Phil stuff, you're right, Trent. And like, you don't know what he's going to say and what he's actually going to admit to. But everybody's kind of assuming the worst right now of like he's in bed with these horrific regimes that are committing all kinds

of atrocities. And he's got horrific gambling debt with bad people. And if he goes out there and just kind of gives decent answers and justifications for stuff, I feel like it could actually help him more than hurt him right now. Yeah. If there's a guy to do it, it's him. If he, it's, it's almost, he almost, he almost has to look in the mirror before he goes out there and be like, I'm Phil Nicholson. Like this is, being charming and charismatic is kind of his thing. It's been, the rug has been pulled out from under him for a lot of reasons in the last few months. But like, yeah, I agree.

If he handles it the right way, which he has the tools to do so, I think it could be a good start or it could be a complete disaster. And that's what makes it so interesting. Man, what a story like that his second to last tweet. most recent second to last most recent tweet from February 11th was at me where he said, I'll let you handle this one, Riggs, when we were going back and forth about, I think that was the Charlie Hoffman thing when he had the Charlie Hoffman comment about the tour, which that's going to lead us to Sergio Garcia. First, we got to get to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, the golf capital of the world, more than

70 courses, Sandy White beaches, endless off the course entertainment options. I've had several folks come up to me and say, hey, I know it's something that you guys are in partnership with. You got a deal. you guys work closely with play golf, Berto Beach. They're like, but I've been there many times,

and it is exactly what you guys are saying. There's stuff for everybody. It's fun. It's not stuffy. It's not some of these places where you get a little bit nervous to go there. It's got stuff for literally everybody, different kind of golf courses,

munis, oceanfront courses. Same with the lodging. They got some ocean front lodging. They got pretty standard Airbnbs and condos and hotels you can go stay at. When they got a million different golf course, I mean,

the golf capital of the world with over 70, golf courses in the same lee white beaches you can do all kinds of good stuff they got golf digest top 100 courses package options include free replay rates um you just go visit myrtle beach myrtle beach golf dot com myrtle beach golf dot com to shop golf packages for the popular fall golf season in myrtle beach we love merdle beach we're going to be there later this year fellas dude i love myrtle beach so much that i'll tell you guys this and i'm not going to release the video because there's too many like too many people in my family and they wouldn't want to They wouldn't want to be on video, but there's a video.

A family member bought a house in Myrtle Beach like seven years ago, eight years ago. And we were all doing things like, whenever you're going to get the invite to the house. And essentially we did this music video. It's very embarrassing. But we did a music video to this song called Myrtle Beach by like Sunny Ledford. If you go on Spotify and listen to this thing, it's just Myrtle Beach, Myrtle Beach, God damn. I love Myrtle Beach. And like we did like this fun little family thing, like taking videos, whatever.

And it's always been in my head. That's how much I love this place is that I did a music video, like an old school YouTube music video with my family, singing our love for Myrtle Beach. It's like I'm going to get me a beer when I get there. It's like a rap. It's fucking horrific. But I love that place so much. I cannot wait to go now for work and like actually experience it and good to go golf down

there and the whole thing. I'm very excited. Myrtle Beach has had a very. you know, a nice place in my heart for the, for the past 10 years. Amazing spot. We love Little Beach. Can't wait to get there and explore it more. We had a few days there, you know, for the Barstool Classic like a month or so ago,

but cannot wait to do the boys trip there. So play, I'm sorry, Myrtlebechgolf.com, shop packages for the fall golf season and enjoy it's the golf capital of the world. On a very similar note to what we're talking about with Phil, Sergio Garcia, with yet another moment where he snapped. Got a ruling that he did not like from the PGA tour. He was caught on Mike following a ruling at the Wells Fargo Championship saying, I can't wait to leave this tour.

Later, a bunch of outlets reported that Sergio is looking to play in the first live golf event in London coming up. Not a good look for Sergio, who, you know, we have one interaction with Sergio. We loved it. We had a nice little race for him. But if we're going to be honest and objective on this show, Not a great look for Sergio Garcia.

So I found his comment interesting for one reason because he's making it seem like I'm leaving this tour. Like that, those were the words that he said. Like, I'm on the PJ tour right now, but I'm going to go play on this other tour and I'm not, insinuated that he's not going to be on the PJ tour anymore. And I guess for me, like that's always been the question, right, with Jay Monaghan and Greg Norman. and the whole thing. Like, if you are a PJ tour player right now and you go into an agreement with Live, are you then banned from the PJ tour?

Like Greg Norman's thing, Ian, correct me if I'm wrong, has been, I'm trying to just include more tournaments. I'm not saying one tournament or the other tournament, you have to pick one. I'm saying, well, let's just have more golf tournaments, essentially. And what Sergio is kind of saying, not to read too much into it, but he's saying, I'm going to go play on this tour. I'm leaving this tour. and I'm mad at these rules officials,

so fuck you guys, I'm going to go play on this tour. Am I reading too much into that? Or is that kind of what's going on with Sergio? You know, it's a weird comment from him because of that. I mean, it's the whole premise is that you don't have to leave the PGA tour, right? And now he's basically, I mean, his comment, I can't wait to leave this tour.

You know, Charlie Offman's comments from the Ways Management when he was like this tour, you know, can't wait to not have to deal with this. That stuff is super anti-PGA tour. And I think that's the type of rhetoric and type of approach that will not allow the live golf league to really succeed because it's going to drive the tour to be very abrasive and not allow anything. So yeah, that it's good for us. It's good drama. It's great talking points.

I mean, it's going to, if you have these things budding heads and you got the Lee Westwoods of the world and Sergio Garcia is like now being in a position. And I will say that a lot of like reporters and stuff have been pretty good to get this out of. them where you're pitting the two things against each other hardcore makes it a lot more interesting. But I would even say that Greg Norman wouldn't love those Sergio Garcia comments. No. Whatever his plan ultimately is, right now he wants it to be like, all right, we're going to have just a cohesive, more golf tournaments for everybody. That's the plan. So for Sergio to be like, fuck the PJ tour, you guys, your rules officials aren't treating me right.

I'm going to go to live. Greg Norman's got to be like, maybe that's our. end goal, but right now we're trying to not make it be butt heads. What's your guy's personal opinion? You think of Sergio Garcia, he plays in a live golf event, bad guy? Bad guy. What do you mean bad guy? That's a big question. Does it make him a bad guy? Yeah, just like, you know, does it immediately just tarnish Sergio Garcia's whole career and legacy and just how you think about him just because he plays in that golf event? A little bit. Not a little bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Certainly tarnishes his legacy. I think that's undeniable.

Yeah, he's, I mean, he's definitely, he's got an interesting legacy regardless. Like when we met him, it was the best experience I've ever, like, he was the man. Could have been nicer, could have been more fun to be around. Right. It is, it's interesting because if you ask the same thing about like Adam Scott, right? Like, I don't know that my answer is as strong because it's part of like, Sergio already has a little bit of a whiny, like kind of shitty reputation at times. I mean, remember, I think it was in the Saudi Arabia event a few years ago when he was like, slam at his club in the bunker like a fucking lunatic.

It's like, he's kind of already got a little bit of a shaky reputation. What do you think, Frankie? I don't know. I just think I think as names come out, it's going to be more difficult to pin each guy as being like a backer of the Saudi regime as opposed to a guy that's just trying to make money in a golf tournament.

I think at some point it will turn into that where it's like not every single guy has the same viewpoints that like Phil said to Alan Shipnuck about like, yeah, they do slaughter gay people, but it's also about leverage of the PJTor. I just don't think it's as fair to pin. Because I think it's just Phil's comments and all of the stuff that's coming out about this golf league,

I feel like you sign, I guess it's just their choice, but like do they sign up for all those comments by signing up for the golf tournament? My response to that is when that starts to happen and if it does, then you give the Saudis what they want,

where it gets muddled to the, point where it's like, oh, well, not all these guys can be bad guys. And then you're, then you're just saying that this golf league, all right, now it's just another golf league. And we've got all these guys joining. And that I'm not super in love with. And I know when you ask that question, Frankie, I get what you're saying. And it is probably more nuanced than we're making it. But like, I don't know. I do fear that the more people that join, it will get into, it moves the conversation from, are these all bad guys to, oh, well then if all these guys are doing it, then it's just another golf league.

And then that's kind of the sport washing that everyone's been talking about. In my opinion. Yeah. No, I agree. I definitely agree. And, you know, Lee Westwood's interview last week, if folks didn't say that, you know, the reporter presses them. I think it was on Sky Sports.

They press them pretty good about it, basically saying, you know, hey, you're going to, you know, you're clearly one of the front man, man now that's going to play. in the Saudi back league. The regime has X, Y, and Z history. Sport washing is a very clear thing that, you know, most believe they are trying to do by playing. You are helping them do that. How do you feel about that?

And he made a lot of the points, frankly, that I think a lot of people can see, which is like, I'm doing what's best for me. And he justified that by saying, you know, they have Formula One over there. They do WWE wrestling over there. They've done boxing over there. And, you know, the reporter's point is like,

Yeah, that's sport washing. Like what you're describing right now is precisely what they tried to accomplish, which is they are trying to distract and make you think that their way of operating as a regime is normalized because they go, yeah, we have all these normal things over here. And that distracts from people pressing them and people driving very loud and aggressive opposition to what they're doing. and people just kind of turn their head a little bit. They're like, oh, yeah, they'd get pretty normal culture over there. When in reality, they have horrific atrocities that they're committing.

And by participating in them, you are saying, I'm just going to take money. And I'm going to be part of what they're trying to use to help their image when in reality they're not changing and not doing what they need to do to protect their, not just image, but their actual regime, which is to change. their ways. And so I think most rational human beings can understand both perspectives. You can understand that like, well, in theory, I could justify every regime as terrible to some degree. And I'm just trying to make money for my family. And I do think you're going to get more negative feedback towards players that already have questionable reputations at times. And I think that that's why I brought up Adam Scott. Like I think a guy like Adam Scott, I could see him skirting it pretty easily. People are like, oh, yeah, Adam Scott. He's Australian. And like it makes more sense for him. And

when that's just not fair because we should be ridiculing everybody equally if that's what we're going to do. The biggest chip that the Saudis have is that what they're ultimately doing is pitting whether like an individual against a group, right? Like if you are an individual who like if you're a if you're a Sergio Garcia, who are you going to think about at the end of the day? Are you going to think about the, the whether Sergio is going to prosper or about sort of the, it's a bit, it's the greater good and it's a bit abstract. Like you're just kind of being like, oh, is it the greater good or am I just going to focus on what makes Sergio Garcia more successful and prosperous?

And over the course of time, human history, the individual is always going to, an individual is always going to think about themselves as opposed to what's going on in the abstract greater good. So that's kind of where it falls. And I, you know, you look at a guy like Rory and it seems like he thinks about the abstract greater good in a situation like this. as opposed to how is Roy McElroy going to make more money. Now, Rory has like $400 million, so he is in a position to do that. But I do think it comes down to individual versus the group, and people are always going to be like, at the other day, I just got to do what's best for me.

And that's what happens. And I do think, agreed. And I do think if you were, if you were Joe Schmoe from off the street and you're making 75 grand a year, And then you're offered from the Saudi League to potentially make $5,15, $25 million. It's like, I don't know that a lot of people would really hate on you for doing that, being like, yep, I get that they got a bad history, but like, okay, I'm going from that to that. Whereas if you're Roy McElroy and you've already made $400 million, I think it's much more, it's much easier for you as Roy McElroy to be like, I don't need that extra money.

I'm fine. I think it was Robert McIntyre from the European tour who had some quotes in the last couple of days that came out that were exactly like that where he was like at some level money's money I'm a happy healthy person I got a good family and I make a good amount of money I'm not going to go over there because I don't need to. So everybody's going to have a different kind of threshold on that level. But, you know, so yes, my point is that like if you look at it from the two extremes of both sides, there's clearly a way I think where you could justify it. But if you're already, if you're already worth tens of millions of dollars, you're going over there to make a few more million and you clearly have been

presented that it is sport washing a horrific regime that's full of atrocities, committing atrocities all the time. It gets into a pretty dicey area, I think, ethically. Yeah, I think it's interesting, too, and they're in like a tough spot because, like, you go back to Max Homa and make an $18,000 a year, you know, they could go out and recruit a bunch of those like young, up and coming kids, but what they're looking for is people with a brand already to like effectively complete, you know, sport washing or whatever you want to call it. And so they need somebody that's, made it to some certain degree to fall and bring them on board because you can't if they go get a bunch of college prospects and pay them a bunch that's effectively not going to do anything i feel like

in their eyes and the human eye of what they're like you know trying to cover up or or make you know feel okay if that makes any sense at all sergio goes to this league you think he gets invited to the champions dinner at augustin national yeah sam yeah i agree with that it's a good Yeah, but I think he, you know, he's a player's champion. I don't know that he, I don't know that he's allowed to play in the players championship. I also think like based on what's out there right now, he gets invited. But then he's basically tying himself in.

And if things were to change, new information gets released. I could totally see Augusta pulling that, like carpet out from underneath it. I don't, yeah. I just think they celebrate their champions. It's a good question. their champions so much that like I honestly think you could murder someone and still they'd like give you 24 hours to go to the dinner like I don't know that's just like I know that's an extreme example extreme example I'm just saying like that that how obvious is it that you murdered someone is it like do we I think it's a gray area I think it's like a jury of 12 of your peers convicted you of that or are you

I don't think you'd be able to go there anyway right exactly can't leave jail I'm just saying that that place, you know, they, they take that shit pretty seriously. Once you're in that crew, it's like, it's a crew for life. I think it's blood brothers is what I'm. I agree with that. I think it's more, it's more pitting the PGA tour against them, right? It makes it a lot more interesting. And credit to the credit to what the PGA tour has done, right?

Because we were just talking about, you know, puts these people in a tough spot. Well, the tour kind of came out and said, no, it doesn't. Like, we're offering you all these amazing things. We're putting more money into the prize pools. we have more for the PIP, we have more for, you know, your, your, your pension and your retirement forever. Like, we're making you all millionaires. If you're a big star in the game or you're doing more to become a big star in our tour, we're making, you're making a ton of money from us.

So you're not in a tough spot. It's kind of what the BG tour is done, which is not clearly Fulberg because guys are going over there. But they've tried. They're done. They've come out looking better and better, I would say, every week, it seems like. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about money.

True bill. True bill is one of the great things. One of the great applications I ever downloaded on my phone. How many subscription services are you paying for each month? Do you even know? True bill is the smartest way to manage your finances. A lot of finances talk on this show. You're probably not on a level that we're talking about with this tour and that

tour and how much money these guys are making. So what's going on in your little app there and your little bank count, your credit card? That's going to matter. On average, people save up to $720 per year with True Bill. This app's great. I mean, it's automatic. You just put, you plug in your financial information. It says, hey, you don't really use this subscription.

You don't use that subscription. You're, you're paying for X. I bet you don't want to be at least look into it. It gives you these notifications. He pops up. It's flag stuff. We love it. Yeah, it's great for a guy like me who will just, I'm a big sign up for the trial,

the free trial and then be like, all right, I'm going to remember to cancel this once I'm done with it because I just want to use the free trial. Then I just forget about it. it. And I, then I don't want to go through all the whole process of you got to cancel. You got to unsubscribe. True bill does that for you. You just go through it. You give them your information and it lists everything that you pay for each month. And if you see one that you're like, oh yeah, I did that for a specific reason, but I'm not actively using it every day or every week or every month. Let's get rid of that. They do it for you. They go and do the legwork, which is great.

Because that's the part. That's just the, they, these, some subscription services make it purposely difficult to stop because they know that I'm, a guy like me is just going to be like, this is too much. I'll just pay the $9 that you guys are charging me. So I don't have to deal with this. True bill, you click it. I'm not using it. Boom.

They take care of it. I'm probably saving $85 to $100 a month, thanks to true bill at least. Yeah. It's crazy. And, you know, this last week, I spent a lot of money. I had like a big dinner that I put. on my card everyone venmoed me so like you like don't realize like how much you're putting on your card i got a weekly spending report from true bill my last notification was 25 minutes ago hi frankie

you spent 1,100 last week that's 104% more than you're normal over the last month like they're doing all of these all of these calculations and like if you are going if you're trying to budget and you're trying to i mean you know move into a new house all this stuff like it makes a really big difference And it tells you, I have so many bills that it would make your fucking headspin. I don't even know where all these things are going. Electric, gas. All this shit is just popping up. It tells me, Frank, you have seven bills due this week.

It's like, okay, now we just know. And you go down. It itemizes everything. It puts it all in categories where there's entertainment. It's fucking utilities. It's mortgage. It's crazy. So it's really been huge.

And I honestly don't know how we would get through what we're doing right now as like young idiots that just bought a house, like how we would get through like paying for all this stuff. Makes me feel way better knowing that I have it and makes me feel really idiotic about myself before I had it. Do not fall for subscription scam. Start canceling today at truebill.com slash four. Go right now. Truebill.com slash four. It could save you thousands a year. We use it. We love it. That is true. Fact. Real raw. Go right now. Truebill.com slash four. It could save you thousands a year. one thing is for certain the Saudi league is not going away and Greg Norman months ago

when he said we are going to power through we are going to carry golf events whether you know Roy McRoy says we're dead in the water or not he was right he was absolutely right there's going to be a tournament that comes up what at the end of the month that one it is is the end of next month live I think it is it is it late June live golf tour

schedule. It might be late June. They have a website. I never been to their website. Just got real. What a website. Teams and players. June 9th to the 11th. So that will be, I believe, the week before the U.S. Open, there will be a live golf event, which will be the first one. It's going to be in London. So things are just going to happen, man. By that time, we're going to know who's in. We're going to know who's out. We're going to know who the PGA tour, allowed, didn't allow what they did, what they said, what they threatened. There's just too many leaks now. I mean, not too many.

There's the right amount because it's entertaining for us. But there's leaks all overplay. So like if the, if the, if the, if the JTA tour tells one person this in terms of their exemption requests, we're just all going to like know about it. We're going to find out about it how that's going down. And like you were talking about the very beginning when you get like these seismic shifts and what's going on, whether it's a blizzard or some drama or whatever. It is always in, it's exhilarating knowing something seismic is happening.

there's just going to be a rival to the PGA tour events that occur, whether big names are going to play in it or not, who the fuck knows. But that is going to be something, again, that has never really happened, at least not in our lifetime, that people will break down and talk about forever. Certainly something the only a PJ tour has going on right now,

like in terms of the entire sports world. Like I know we've talked about the XFL and there's the USFL, which is going on, which I'll just see sometimes on a Saturday night, Like they'll just, USFL games are just running. There's football going on right now. They start at like 10 p.m. And they run on Saturday nights. It's really something.

But no other league has gotten the media scrutiny or the attention that this Saudi Golf League has in relation to the PJ Tour. And yeah, it's certainly a storyline. I mean, it's something that we're going to continue to talk about because it's, I don't know if it's necessarily like a real threat to the PJ Tour. in terms of like, this thing's going to take over, but it certainly is a threat in the sense that players are going to go over there and it's going to force the PJ Tour to make a decision on those guys.

And that's super interesting. It's as close of a threat as any league has ever had to having another league just come in, in our lifetime at least. I don't know what it used to be, what the NBA and the ABA and was that like a merger or was that like a takeover? I don't know what happened back in the day. But in my lifetime, certainly have never seen anything like. like this.

Can you imagine just like, I don't know, like Russia at this point, who's a pretty bad regime, like just taking back all the players and like everyone just going back there and just like, I don't know, like, Ovechkin goes there and then fucking like Sidney Crosby's like, yeah, I'm going to go over to the fucking Russia. We'd be like, what is happening right now? Like this is fucking, are we going to start watching Russian hockey games? It's also just around us. Like London, Trump, Bedmister, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Portland.

So it's not like. Yeah, F1 was in Miami. me last week to their point. Right. So, like, you know, fans going to Trump Bedminster, like, who's going to be there? Like, it's a very real, it's not so much over there. Like, it's over there in terms of that's where the dollars are coming from. But it's very much, like, in the States and, like, here that they'll be playing these events.

It'll be, I mean, yeah, it'll be really interesting the way it pans out. They're trying to make it probably as easy as possible on the players. And, I mean, it's not so much across the pond. like just in the PGA Tours backyard where these events are going to take place. Yeah, and it's, you know, they've got some pretty big names. Now, they're all a little bit past their prime, right?

Like, but Sergio Garcia, I mean, there was a time where Sergio Garcia was like the biggest up-and-coming name in golf. He was like 19 years old doing the scissor kick, taking on Tiger Woods. There's a time where he against Tiger Woods was the storyline where they were chirping him at Beth Page Black about having the yips and he couldn't pull the club back.

I mean, he was a mega star. He's been one of the biggest stars in the history of the Ryder Cup, Sergio Garcia. I mean, he won the Masters. He is an enormous name. And you have him being like, I can't wait to leave this tour to join another tour back by some horrific regime. That's committing atrocities. You got Phil Mickelson, who again, is 50, but he's still the defending PGA champion. He's still Phil Mickelson.

He's still probably the second biggest, third biggest earner in the world of golf. It's probably Tiger Woods, Rory, slash Phil. probably have to be right around each other in terms of how much they bring in endorsements and everything else. So it'd be one thing because the XFL doesn't have like Aaron Rogers going and playing in the XFL, right? Like this would be and it's not quite Aaron Rogers level name, maybe, but it's kind of fucking close like Phil Nicholson-Zergerger are pretty big name.

So the fact that they're able to draw that, that they're going to have events like Bryson was very heavily rumored to be one of the guys over there. He very realistically could be over there playing at some point. and there's probably going to be names that are up on that level that are playing over there. So it is just going to be unprecedented time to watch an event series in golf, professional golf that rivals the actual PGA tour, which is the only thing that's been known for a long time.

And then as that's all going on, we have Tiger Woods returning. We have actual PGA tour events going on. We have major championships happening. So there's just a lot going on. We've got big events going on. I mean, we're going to be at the PGA all week next week. Has that even sunk in yet to me, to anybody?

We're just going to be in Tulsa? No, I haven't, I have not thought about that, but it's, it's coming. I've got to get through Scottsdale, I'm going to a bachelor party, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Got to somehow make a Sunday night flight, midnight flight to Tulsa, Oklahoma. So that's, I'm coming in hot on Monday, real hot. Don't piss me off Monday morning. I'm going to be in a bad mood. Hopefully we get to see Tiger Woods.

That put me in a good mood. So yeah, I just got to get through this weekend and then it's just go time. And we also tonight have Kalamorakawa coming out for YouTube. So tonight, YouTube, Kalamorakawa, one club challenge. It's going to be an amazing video. Some crazy stuff happens after the video for if he wins, if he doesn't win, we did a little bit of a prize for the winner. And it was fun. It was a lot of fun.

Yeah, I would call it a punishment for the losers. A punishment for the losers is a great way to put it. Could be maybe the best clip of the entire series is this little bit that happens at the end of this whole thing. You're right. People need to check that out. Four play golf on YouTube, Colin Mora Kyle, one of the biggest stars in the game. We haven't mentioned his fucking name yet.

That guy's a stud. There's so many studs in the world of golf. It's fucking awesome. But yeah, PJA Championship. We're going to be there. Scottsdale's a hell of a place for a bachelor party. I mean,

I obviously live there, but I, you know, when you live somewhere, it's just like in New York. When you live in New York, you're not necessarily raging all the time. You kind of just live like a pretty normal person.

When you go to Scottsdale to visit, especially like old town and all that, I mean, it's chaos. That place is fucking chaos. It's like almost almost all this out there. It's nuts. I mean like the plan that we have set out, we have like 14 guys.

It's just going to be, it's like survived till Sunday is really what it is. We've got like that Maya pool party thing going on on the weekend, which I heard is just like not a real place. There's like you can rent a beach in the middle of the pool or something like that. It's like $30,000. My buddies are like somewhat like thinking about. I'm like, I'm not coming to that. It's just not coming to that or else I have to sell the house. So it's either we go to the pool party for.

one day or I sell the house. What's your guys decision? So yeah, it's just, it's going to be a crazy time out there. Scottsdale's like a mini Vegas from what I'm seeing. All the reservations you have to make. The dinners are all sold out. It's like the clubs are insane. Like I've never been to, I've never seen that version of Scottsdale. We've only seen the golf courses. So that's going to be pretty interesting. You're going to have a great time. You're going to have a great time. Scottsdale's awesome. Be safe, be smart. You know, it's one of those places. You can get out of hand quickly. What's up, Frankie, what role do you think you play in a bachelor party? because there's a lot of different

different guys on a bachelor party. Which role do you think you feel? It's actually funny, Sam, my buddy Rob, we call him Big Rob. You've heard many stories about Rob on this show. Love Rob. One of the greatest people on the planet. Your favorite buddy of ours, and I've never met him.

Yeah, so Rob is a scene. He sends out a pre, he sends out a scouting report based off the last bachelor party going into the new one. It's a pre-scouting report, and he does it like a team, where it's like, it's almost like he's the general manager and how certain guys are utility players and other guys are stepping up and one guy was a rookie of the year and he's getting a big contract and for me I missed the last one and uh he basically

said that like I'm a wild card you don't know what player you're going to get when he wakes up you can get on a hot streak or he can get real cold real quick meaning I was the first person to leave my own engagement party because I got too drunk like I took way too many shots and they had to carry me out and I left at 1155 I was puking and they all stayed until 4 a.m. So it's like that's the, like, you don't know what frankly you're going to get. Like, are you going to get the longevity fun one? Or are you going to get the one that's just gone all night? So I'm a wild card for sure.

But it was so funny to like watch him break down. Like one guy like hit for the cycle in the last one. He's like, can he keep up this streak? Like he's Shohei Otani. He's hitting on both sides of the ball right now. He's pitching. He's hitting. He's just score and runs for the team.

Like another guy is like not, you know, he's not afraid to steal the bases if he has to. It's just like, it's so fun. But he could get thrown out if he just jumps too early. Like, it's very, very funny. That's a guy you need too, the guy who assigns the roles of the bachelor party. That is also a guy that is a miserable at work guy that's like, I'm going to sit here in my free time and I'm going to break down the scouting report for the next bachelor party. Let's go. He's been thinking about that at his desk for fucking months.

Months. He sent it out with like emojis. The whole thing was fucking perfect. So yeah, I think my role is just. just going to be to survive honestly. And I think for me, if I stay away from shots, which is really tough on like straight vodka or straight like tequila shots, stuff like that, like that just happens. You get bottles, people are ripping shots. They're drinking fucking mixed drinks. It happens. I'm more of a beer guy. I can get drunk. I can have fun time with beer. That's why you can see the belly.

When I start ripping shots, like the day's over for me. Also, I think a big thing is like eating. I know Lurch is a big eater. So like eating in the morning and making sure that you have a nice base, that's how I don't get sick. And water. Water's huge. Sneak in water, especially in Scottsdale. Dry, hot. Just sneak in when you, when, even if somebody orders that fucking round of shots,

just look over the bar to her be like, can I just get a tall glass ice water and just pound it? That makes a huge difference. Dude, the video of me with Dave when I was dropping all the grapes in Vegas. So funny. I couldn't hold on to any of the grapes. I just was so hung over. Why is it ghost? Why is it ghost?

We had drank from four o'clock in the afternoon. the day before until 4 a.m. And then we woke up to go to a pool party. And like I was literally one, I was on one hour of sleep, which was the most disgusting sleep of all time. And I'm holding on to these grapes. But I hadn't eaten anything.

Like that's how I get to that level. If you see me dead, it's because I hadn't sat down and ate like a grilled chicken sandwich or something. I need to do that. That's the biggest thing for me to survive. Yep. Yeah, smart.

Yeah, and I mean, it's hard because you're, when there's booze and you just want to eat like greasy, disgusting food. But man, if you get like, if you make,

makes in like a good like, you know, salad or something in there or even like a turkey sandwich, turkey, something that's like decently healthy. Bacon tomato, you're like, it makes a huge difference. Is there a science behind that? Yeah, definitely. There is. Like, so you actually need food to soak up the alcohol so that your brain is getting drunk. Yeah, bread is great.

Like, if you get some bread. How does that work? I don't think the yeast. I don't know. I have no idea. How does Advil work? We also just could be wrong, you know. How does Advil work?

If you have a little boo-boo on your pink. You suck that thing down. It just goes away. It's all in the brain. I don't know. That's what I think sometimes. If it's like a placebo effect. No, it can't be placebo.

I don't think that's probably wrong. Come on, bro. Come on. What is Advil is just selling a sugar pills? No. But I think there is a part of it where you're like, oh, I'm actively trying to solve the problem that I have and that helps. But I'm sure there's, I don't know what it is. What is it like acid? How does it know?

Acetone? If you have like a, if you have a headache or. Or if your foot is bruising and you just rolled your ankle. Why is it like, like, how did they invent something that you just take a pill and it fixes both those things, like, at different moments? You know what I mean? Like, why wouldn't it be like a shot, like into the actual spot? Does it have to do with inflammation? I feel like inflammation is a big word.

So does everything, do, does everything, like, come down? Everything, I think a lot, a big, like, a lot of your body can get inflamed. I think that's right So if I have a boo-boo on my arm And it's inflamed I take an Advil My whole body is I'm trying to think of the word

D-inflaming I don't know I have these we are I'm so out of my depth I don't know Yeah I've always thought That the Advils of the world And such are

Some of the most magical things They just You take that And it just goes into your body Finds where you're having pain And just stops it from her I mean It's stunning

It goes into your stomach was a robot you're putting in there doesn't make it sense is in your stomach filled with like acid and just like kills whatever went in there like how does it get into like ever like how does it get into like the back of your head where you have like that throbbing headache i don't know that's amazing how'd they figure that out how'd they like know it yeah it's working that's why if you invented ad bill you're worth just trillions of dollars just trillion you're looking good you're looking really good they could sell sugar pills and people be like this stuff is still good. It's still working because you don't need to join any any sketchy leagues if you invented

Advil, you're fine, dude. You're fine. You're sailing off into the sunset. Another thing that if you invented, thank you, is Roman. Roman. Roman's group began this show mentioning some sexual stuff, you know, some desires. If you are lucky enough to have been in a situation where having a sexual encounter, congratulations to you first of all.

nice. It's a big part of a, you know, primal part of our existence. But another thing is you want it to last for a long time. Roman swipes are the secret to longer lasting sex. Roman swipes are a clinically proven way to last longer in bed. They're effective, easy to use and fast acting. They do not require a prescription. Roman can ship swipes to you in discrete unmarked packaging. Each swipe packet small enough to hide in your wallet for whenever you need it. Get Roman.com slash 40. Get $10 off swipes when you choose a monthly plan. We like long sex, right? We like just, you know, lasts in there for a while, getting after. having some fun, right?

Fun time. The better. Rolling around on the sheets, you know. GetRoman.com slash four to get $10 off swipes. Roll around in the hay. You guys ever hear of that one or is that, is that a Midwest? Yeah, roll around in the hay. Hitting the speed bags.

Going heels to Jesus. Heels to Jesus, you know, pants around the ankles. Any other ones? What are some other ways to say having sex but not having sex? we're tapped out i think putting the icing on cake but i think we keep us a p got so many more it's an r rated adri they we it is r rated um look hold on let me look yeah there's an r can contain r rated content it's not what it says this isn't a disney movie no it's just think of another one for play golf podcast um all right we're going to go uh quick my computer is at let me look at this let me look at

My computer's at 4%. So I could just disappear in any second here. So if that happens, maybe I'll just jump back into my phone. But make a lot of the outside. Get a release. Did you just look that one up? Make whoopies a pretty good one. Horizontal refreshment.

What the fuck? Afternoon delight. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Afternoon delight. That song is about sex. Do the deed of the darkness. Hop on the good foot and do the bad thing.

I think that's awesome. hours. What is it? Hop on the good foot and do the bad thing. Talk to your mother with that mouth. Okay. This is one from Twitter from the gallery for play at at barstalsports.com.

What is the best golf tip you've ever received? Obviously, it was the chair sit thing for me last summer, but I would say currently for me right now, Jake Owen, actually, at the Barstool Classic in Nashville a couple weeks ago, told me the only thing you have to do is just make sure you turn as much as you can turn your shoulders as much as you can and I just started thinking about that I started hitting the golf ball a lot better so obviously we all always have different stuff going on my new thing is I just try to feel my back sitting I'm literally just turning my shoulders as much as humanly possible and then let it go

and it's just been working if I got anything going on right now I know frankie's been going through like oh yeah frankie I got I got a thing I've got a thing on my glove written from dr. Brett McCabe and the word just says process it's in the blue ink right up my thumb. And for me, I genuinely think, under my thumb, I genuinely think that the process is the most important part of what you're about to do as an amateur golfer because we're all not going to perfect our swings. We're all not going to have the perfect, like every time the club's going to hit the ground at the same spot. We're not going to have the same tempo. We're not going to be perfect every single time. Our technique is never going to reach a level where

we're going to be professional golfers. It's just going to be our technique. As sad as that is, every one of our swings, no matter how much work we do, it's still going to be our swing in some aspect. So how do we get to our swing every single time? And I genuinely think now that I've seen the light from Dr. Brett McCabe,

it's process. It's like doing the same thing going into each shot, specifically on the practice range. Like, don't just go up there. Like, dude, Lurch is a non-processed guy. He steps up to the ball with putts and he just fucking looks and like he's over it and just rips the putt or like on the range he'll rip like nine fucking shots in like two seconds which i do also if you went to brett mccabe you'd be like man this

guy because then when lurch dials in in a scramble he stands behind the ball we're like lurch this is you man three wood right to left you're gonna curl this thing in 260 you're at the front of the green you like are behind the ball you step up with like confidence you step over the ball you're looking at the target and you rip it it's like i've seen so many times where we all just step up to a ball and hit a golf ball it's just like you're not going to do anything thing spectacular when you just do it, like, off the top of your head. It's got to be like a moment each time. And that takes so much fucking pressure to remember to do that throughout 80 shots in a round or whatever. But you have to do it. Think about what pros go through before they hit a

golf shot. It's like two minutes of speaking. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm, yeah, I will definitely, I'll definitely fade away. Energy. If I'm not well fed, you can see me going off into just la la land. So, like, I need to be well fed. And then, another phrase that I use is just a little bit of focus goes a long way. Just a little bit. And I will say, usually when I'm on the range, though, I'm just trying to loosen up the body. Just like pulling the club back, feeling your back pop just a second,

and then feeling like you're comfortable to actually let a driver fly by the time you get on the first team. But certainly on the putting green, I'm like, I'll just send this thing over there. Because I honestly think where I fail too is just, I don't even think I'm like, believe that I can't hit a straight putt so like why even like I'm a generalist in terms of I'll just hit it over there hopefully I pull push or hit the straight putt on the right line and just get

the speed right is kind of the goal of my putting strategy these days but hopefully I'll find a coach and we'll fix that so try to figure that out the next couple weeks of getting your boy your boy that's your guy the Florida guy he wants to help you what was that guy's name again I don't know it's the Florida guy I haven't talked that I said that too didn't I said that in the in the group chat did you? Yeah, he sent you his Instagram. You were like,

I'm going to check his Instagram and the whole deal. Was it like someone's putting coach or whatever? Steve, yeah, Steve, he's like Sergio's guy. Yeah,

oh, bad guy, which is tough right now. Steve Sweeney. Steve Sweeney. Swing? He's, we look him up here.

Steve. I guess the tip from what I said, that ramble I just had about process is basically come up with your own and just take it slow. swing your swing. It's actually interesting that you bring up process because me and JT had a similar conversation when I was down there in Georgia that like for putting and pre-shot where he was looking at me

before I would put and I've just got the putter like all over the place and I like it's I had like above my knees. I was holding it like a baseball bat. He's like you're not like you're looking like a guy who's not going to break 90. You're looking like a guy who's not going to break 100. So if you have the right process and it's a it's a, it's. As crazy as it sounds, like if you have a process of a guy who looks like he knows what he's doing, you will more times than not, you have a better result.

So just always have the same routine when you're walking up to a putt, when you're stalking a putt, when you're looking at a shot, like what are you trying to actually do? And if just thinking about that each time, and you're right, it takes a lot of patience and a lot of effort because when you're not well fed or when you're playing like shit or you just don't want to be there, you just, you throw all that out the window and it ends up fucking with your game. If you always have a process and zero in on what you want to do, it's not going to be

perfect. It's never going to be perfect. But the result is going to be better than if you just step up, do a couple practice swings that aren't real practice swings and try to hit the ball. Process goes a long way in getting your focus on what you're actually trying to do. Yeah, I agree. JT talked about the exact same thing. There's a, there's a reason why when you're standing on a T and you like, We've got two rigs right now. We've got two rigs. When you look out onto a fairway and you're like, this really catches my eye, it's like for righty, maybe it's like a left to right fairway bunker on the left and you know you're

going to draw it around the bunker. You've got room out right. There's like the trees kind of go all the way out to the right, but you have so much rough. You're like, I'm going to absolutely a load on one here. And it usually goes pretty well. Obviously, we're not the best golfers in the world. You tug one. You lock one out.

But there's a reason why whatever activates in your brain at that moment, that confidence of like standing behind the ball, seeing the shot and being like, oh yeah, this one's going to go really well. How do we get that to go on every shot, even the tough ones? Right. Finding that field goal. Because like finding that viewpoint where like, okay, you know, on a tee ball, it's like if it's a little bit more open right, I'm fine. or like Trent, like if there's trees short left and you know you've got to hit a cut, like that screws up your eye. So how do you get to a spot where you're like,

you're seeing a good line for you so you feel comfortable? I feel like is massive. The only tip I have is just like still head straight left arm are the two things that I always go back to and I feel like I've made the swing too complex is just keep the fulcrum still. Yeah, the tip that I've given on this podcast for years now is the Kisner-N-R-R-E-R-Ear. which he taught me at Palmetto and actually goes back to Lurch a little bit because it's all about strengthening your grip and Lurch was told that once and he just squeezed the he'd squeeze the club heart and that's not it. It's the knuckle tip is when you're hitting when you're hitting when you look down

if you're righty how many knuckles can you see on your left hand and ideally you can see two three is is good too but when before Kisner gave me the tip I would look down and I saw no knuckles. So it's all about turning that left hand in and you do, if you just do that, and it really did change my game. And JT and I still talked about it when I was down there. He's like, can you still, can you see the knuckles? I'm like, yep, and that's still a big part of it. And it will change your game instantaneously. I've gotten great feedback from people being like, just strengthening the grip of my left hand,

being able to see those knuckles, I'm just able to hit the ball a lot better. So if you're not doing that, if you look down and you can't see any knuckles, just turn that hand in and feel it and swing away. And I guarantee, not that I'm going to guarantee anything in the game of golf, but you're going to hit the ball better, I think, if you do the knuckle tip. So I've been giving that out for years. And we have breaking news for Trent that breaking 90 is going to start, I believe, this week. Are we doing our first attempt?

I don't know how much you want to talk about, like, what we got going on. But, I mean, we're starting these attempts pretty damn soon. Yeah, I texted you last week being like, are you free Thursday to go out and film a breaking 90, around the first one and you said yes we're just so we're just kind of back and i need to i need to go and practice it a little bit before i get out there but i got a couple days uh i want to get some swings in before i try to break 90 for the first time but it's happening we're just back you should just come out here on like wednesday and you should practice around before you could sleep at the place and then we'll go play thursday that's an option for you dude i would do that yeah we might just do that

um okay we'll text me we'll figure that out because we need to practice we need to like chip around and play because i want the viewers to know we're going to try and do this as fast as possible you're not like milking you're going to try and break 90 every time you go out there you're trying to defeat the challenge of being an 80s golfer it may not be easy but like round one like if we do it we do it that's how it's going to happen so um i'm really excited for that and then for me i've got scott fawson coming to long island for episode two of fixing frankie oh okay so that's he's already locked and loaded it's going to be in a couple weeks he's already claimed that like If I just let him talk, he's already said, like, he's done other videos before with, like, other golf people.

And, like, a lot of times it's, like, YouTube, whatever. Like, if he just lets me be him, he's going to make me a fantastic golfer with what I already have from Dr. Brett McCabe. So you add process and then course management. And then I'm going to go do technique with probably Trevor Immelman. It's like, Frankie might start to get a little bit dialed in over here because the brain's starting to turn. The brain is starting to turn. And you guys know me. I'm so neurotic that when I get hooked on something, I can't stop thinking about it.

So like I'm already, I mean, I'm talking so much, but I'm excited about it. I'm excited about the process. I like to hear excited. I had to change my phone real quick, boys. I was in a little bit of a panic because my computer was at 1% and I realized that maybe if it died, it wouldn't save the audio. So I had to save the audio real quick and then change to my phone and trying to get out ahead of it.

So that's where we're at. But I think the process comments are incredible because I think that we are horrible at as a group. I think we are a couple of the worst people at process, and I think you know it. Like when you hit a shot, we've always said, like, I had no fucking plan there, just having a plan and genuinely trying to commit something. And it's amazing that when you really think about how pathetic we are, like, we have no energy, we have no mental strength. We don't like get the right amount of sleep or eat the right amount of things. So we just like lose mental toughness and we lose mental strength.

We lose. We get exhausted. We don't think through shots because our brain is just quitting on us because we don't do anything to do it the right way whatsoever. It's incredible how much all that stuff starts to add up and how it's just true. We don't, from a total, total approach standpoint, we do like 5% of what we probably should be doing. And it slips out fast.

Dude, I had three parts in a row yesterday played in 20 mile an hour wins at Colonial Springs. I'm feeling like I'm on a roll. I'm like, let's get a birdie on this part three. Strong 20 mile an hour win from right to left. pins all the way on the right, water on the right. So it's like you're talking five feet off the right is the pin. An idiot, me with just no process, stepped up. I'm like, I'm going to hit this thing over the water and the wind's going to bring it back.

And I'm going to land it on this little 10 foot shelf where the pin is. Instead of hitting it, the green might be 20 yards long. Instead of just hitting it up there and then just taking my medicine and making my fifth par in a row, I tried to hit this thing to two feet from 175 yards away and I hit it in the water. So it's like there was no process. there at all. It was like cocky and like just stepping up and just like thinking I could bend the ball with the wind. Like who

who is that guy? That's not me. I should have just hit aimed at the pin, talking about field goals and at the pin and have it float back to the middle of the greed. I walk away with a two put. Maybe I walk away with the bogey, but it's a tough hole. Like there's water, there's everything. Process, man. It's a process. Yeah. Process. We got

trust the process. I would say that's our biggest fucking mistake as a group. All right, boys. I'm going to get back to the past. I'm watching a game. We're really. roasting gators right now. Oh, that's unfortunate. Wow. You're roasting gaiters?

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. That's like a full-blown gator. You got him on the spinner, and there you go. Skewer. Turning a skewer. That's what I was for. No way.

Man. You ever done a pig roast or something like that before, though? That's what I'm fucking looking at. Oh, yeah. I did a, when I went to Hawaii after I graduated my school, we did a traditional lu-out where we, What you do is you dig a hole and you bury a pig and you cook it underground. We had to dig the hole.

It was really hard. Really hard. Digging a hole. Like, it's hard to do. Digging a hole is hard work. Yeah. Digging a hole is hard. But when you dig the hole, you bury the pig and then you do the whole thing.

It's a good time. It's a really good time. Yeah, we used to do pig roast every year for the parade through South Boston. It was awesome. I loved it. Good time. Stu Feiner had a pig just fucking sprung. rolled out ready to get stuffed at his house the day.

Dude, big rows are wild, dude, because the face and the body's, like, still very much in contact. It's, it's, uh, it's quite a bit to look at and get it over before you start biting into the thing. Yeah, Trent and I had that experience of crawfish, which I don't even know if we want to talk about because it was so horrifying. Oh, yeah. Dude, we went to this crawfish boil and it was the best thing of all time, best food ever,

but the guy took us and we could talk about it because we're just soft, but. He took us in the back. He's like, we'll show you how the crawfish is made. We're like boiled. And like, man, there's this conveyor belt of just these fucking crawfish. Like Toy Story. Oh, yeah. It's coming down.

And they're literally lurch hanging on to the last thread. Oh, yeah. And then it pushes them off and they just go, no. Dude, you ever boiled a lobster or something like that? It's not good. It's not good. You throw a live lobster to a boiling pot of water, man. They say like humanely you're supposed to stab them.

thing I think with a knife, but like, I mean, you're killing something. You know, it's pretty obvious. Like, their life's like, you know, in short order and like, who killed it? You did, dude. You dropped the lobster into the hot pot of boiling water and close the lid on it. So. Some point they, like, look at you, like, stop. Right.

You know, it's just like, right. Like, it is. I'll forgive you up to this point. If you just take me out of this fucking boiling hot water, I'll maybe forgive you. Like, I'll just walk my own. way. Just drop me back in that ocean so I can be a bottom feeding piece of shit that just has nothing to do with what you're about to put on a buttered roll. You know what I mean? Just I don't want to have anything to do with that nastiness that's going in your mouth. It is so cowardly because we love

all of these things like steak, lobster, shrimp, crawfish. But as soon as you put me and Frankie in a room where we have to deal with the fact that they're just dropping these crawfish into boiling water, it's like, man, that's, that's tough. That's tough. Convary about's real, too. Oh, conveyor belt was too real. That's like premeditated, dude. You're just throwing them on these things and like, they're all looking at you, being

like, we good, we good. It does remind me a toy story a little bit. The worst part was them holding on and like barely, and like they were catching it, so it's like dangling. And then it was got, he'd kind of walk over and just like flick them off. You know what I mean? Just like, get in there. Just fuck, oh, no.

So yeah. I almost became a vegan that night. Like as soft as that is, like, I don't know. And then we just poured them on a table and... Eat them all. All of them. The pool is incredible. Oh.

This is a spot, man. It was so good. Oh, dude. Lurch would die there. You'd eat 20 pounds of crawfish. Dude, it's so fun. You just get a beer, salty, like, hot taste that they are. It's like, it's just dynamite.

You can just... Maybe wear a crawfish outfit that you don't care what's on you. Maybe just wear, like, old shorts. Like, that's the problem. We came in, like, golf attire. We went and shit in the golf course. So I was kind of like standing over my shit. Like, so if I could just wear like a raggedy old t-shirt and like shorts and just fucking like, oh.

Even sometimes when you rip them apart, dude, you could hit the guy next to you and you're like, I'm sorry. But like that's just kind of a battle wound here at the crawfish table. You know what I mean? Like that sauce can go anywhere. It's got to get back to the classic. Yeah, he does. All right. Hi, boys.

Great show. I imagine we might have some information about Phil or whatnot, hopefully by the next show. I would think so, honestly. You guys think so? You think he'll announce something before everyone starts making their way to Tulsa? No, you don't think tomorrow or Wednesday? I think like later in the week, Thursday, Friday, maybe.

Is it just dumping on a Friday? Barry the week. You think there's any chance that Phil just shows up without an announcement? No. Yeah, Sam. He's got to say something. Dude, it's been crazy. We'll see.

All right. I'm going to go. everybody have a great have a great day hit it hard go rangers oh hit it hard hit it hard