Fore Play - Shady Brooks and The Great Scramble Mulligan War of 2020

Episode Date: July 9, 2020

Brook Koepka throws perhaps his strongest shade yet at Bryson DeChambeau and we’re here for it. In From The Gallery, who would win: The Fore Man Scramble or Dave Portnoy with unlimited mulligans? We... also weigh in on calling an Arnold Palmer drink a “half n half,” the tour playing Muirfield Village back to back weeks, the Ryder Cup officially postponing until next year, and how to rule on COVID putts that “should” have gone in!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We've got back-to-back golf tournaments at Mirfield Village. We are produced and edited by Jake Bass, Brendan Jones. We got the whole squad. We got Trent Ryan, Frankie Burrelli, Lurch, and myself, I am Riggs. I did a new little thing that where I shot everyone's music out. Yeah, that was like...
Starting point is 00:00:25 This is a four-year-old show? How long has a show been going on for? You know, what did you think of the new thing where I said that I just kind of set the table? I thought that was like a set the table thing with the producer. Are we sending this to someone? Like is this? Are we trying? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I don't know. I heard. I was listening to another podcast and they kind of, they did a little, a little bit like that where they sort of, I don't know, announced and gave everyone the full scoop on what was going on and who was behind it. And I thought that was kind of cool. So I thought we would do it. But you guys seemed to be kind of shocked. Well, we had just had no idea it was coming. Are you adverse to change?
Starting point is 00:01:05 No, I actually think. Tricky question to answer it right now. I think it's a good move. I think the feedback that I've heard, actually, is like when you guys start, nobody knows if the whole squad's there. I mean, I think it's been really consistent nowadays. But I do think this shoutout's great.
Starting point is 00:01:20 But I just didn't see that coming. I don't think anyone saw that coming. That is true. Like if there was one of those shows where Lurch had his real-life job, you might not know you're not on until halfway through if like you just don't speak. So you might, he could just not be on the show.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I think you should keep doing it. I think it's a good twist. Okay. Yeah. Maybe I'll just slide it in at random time. I don't like, nobody'll know. And it'll be like,
Starting point is 00:01:42 oh, Riggs, what you to take on this? I'll be like, we are producing. I'm like J-Fass and Brennan Jones. It felt fucking official. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:01:48 It did? Yeah. Frankie thought it was going to the government. He said, yeah. He goes, what's his thing going to the government? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I just, I don't know. I was kind of thinking about it. It just happened. Anyways, we've got a lot to get to some, an amazing one of the best tweets, maybe in the history of golf Twitter from Brooks Kepka yesterday that we have to talk about. We have big news on the Owens transfusion situation, which is that it's available in stores. So now that this show is out, the transfusion is available in stores. We're trying to get into as many stores as we possibly can. Obviously, that's just a smart business thing.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But it's going to be in golf clubs. it's at Pine Harris, it's at Tobacco Road, it's at Midpines and Pine Needles. Like I said, we were able to kind of get those conversations going because I was there for 99 days. Walmart, to be all over the place, and then you can also get it online. Store. It is a perfect transfusion recipe. Orch and I were drinking them out of Pebble all week long. We did this great thing that I'd never really experienced before where instead of booking a golf trip,
Starting point is 00:02:53 it was almost a vacation. And what I mean by that is we didn't do 36 holes a day. We played in the morning, and then we just sat on our fucking asses all afternoon and drank transfusions and just hung out, which again, for someone like me who's a little bit tightly wound, who likes to go, go, go, just sitting there and doing nothing all afternoon was something I hadn't really experienced very often, and it was fantastic. How nice is that? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:03:16 The way to do it. Just got to relax a little bit. That's all you need. It was lovely. Our place was in the most outrageous location on the golf course. I don't know if you guys figured it out where we were located, but just right on the 18th, making dollar bets, having a transfusion. It was, it was making dollar bets made.
Starting point is 00:03:34 So you see a guy like 150 yards out. You just look at Riggs or a buddy Josh and just say a bucky gets on the green or a buck not. And so you're just constantly doing that all day long. Like, hey, I bet you this guy doesn't get down them three from the trap. Who wants it? So you're just constantly making markets and then seeing who wants to take the other side of it. One of the best ways to do it, which is what I learned with Pashley down at Piner's, is obviously Piner's number two has a similar scene on the 18th green where everybody can watch.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And we sit out there and have lunch a few times. And he would just, the bet was will this person's ball go into the hole? Not will they make this put? Not will like they could be 150 yards up. I'll be like, will that person's ball go into the hole? And all that means is like they could lag it up to six inches. And if they pick it up or if they hit it into the hole, that's the difference in the bet. So we would do that.
Starting point is 00:04:21 You try to judge the type of guy. Does this person care about finishing out on the 18th hole at a course like Pioneerst or a course like Pebble Beach? You could base a lot of that on like the outfits. The guy's got like a more casual. A woman's got a more casual outfit. They might be like more likely to just be laxidaisical and oh yeah, we're hanging the ball, pick that ball up, who cares?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Or someone's a little bit more geared up head to toe. They got the pants on like Borrelli. That ball's going in the fucking hole when they play the 18th. So that's like that is basically what we were doing all afternoon. And it was fantastic. So we were doing that while sipping transfusion. Owens, the Barstall Transfusion by Owens. You just pour it in there.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It's what, 8.5 ounces. You pour it in there. You can do a single, a double. You put as much vodka in there as you want. Pour it in, it's still going to taste like a perfect transfusion. It's got that color. It's not overly purple. We didn't overgrape it, which is a way to kind of ruin a transfusion.
Starting point is 00:05:14 We did it just right. We taste tested it. We've got our commercial that's out now that folks have seen with the donkey, where Trent was very much becoming a good friend of the donkey. Shout at the Elwood. That's Elwood. I love you. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:05:27 D.O. Transfusion, you can go to store. dartralsports.com. You can go Owensmixers.com. They've got a store locator on their website. So check that out. Get your transfusion. Pioneer's number four. Once this show has aired, the teaser is out.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And then later today, Pioneer number four travel show will be available on our YouTube page on barcelesports.com. You can find it very simply. We're growing in subscribers. Our subscribers are through the roof now because I think everybody's quarantined. They got nothing to do. We got like 60 something thousand subscribers on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Shout out to us. Remember, like it wasn't that long ago. We were just talking about, hey, you can find out about this YouTube thing, guys? Did you hear about this video platform? And now we've got a ton of subscribers and people are viewing the shit of our videos. So Pioneer's number four, which is the final episode of our whole Pioneer series. We'll be available today.
Starting point is 00:06:15 That is Thursday, July 9th, 2020 to view. I'm excited about Pioneer number four. Talk a lot about it. but it's very easy to have Pioneers number four be your favorite golf course in all of North Carolina, I'd say. I agree. The Vistas, the undulation of the golf course, it's just very pleasing to the eye. It's a very fun golf course. And we've talked about it a million times.
Starting point is 00:06:39 If you're not into the architecture and the history and stuff, it still has a little bit of that with the restorations and all that. So, I mean, anytime you give me a high tea shot with some water underneath and rolling, in greens into waters and bunkers. Like I'm always going to take a picture of it. I'm going to throw it on my Instagram store, and that's what makes the golf course cool to me. If I can tell the difference between hole one, hole four, whole seven, I can remember them. That's what I really do at Pirates number four. When I play, of course, like number two, sometimes they all blend together with me.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Like, it takes me a while to remember which hole was which. There's a couple of them that you remember. But four is like just very vivid in my brain. And also, this is the course that we got the peanut butter and jelly things. where those uncrustables uncrustables I thought you were going to say pine cone dick
Starting point is 00:07:26 I that's what I got a pine cone dick on the golf course but I mean whenever you're eating bro I brought this bag a baggiole I secured a bag of uncrustables and gave it to the crew gave it to the boys and that just makes the experience
Starting point is 00:07:39 so much better we honestly could have been playing at the Eisenhower Blue course and if I was eating that many uncrustables I mean that's no shot that's no like disrespect eyes and hour blue I love Eisenhower Blue but like
Starting point is 00:07:48 you get an uncrustable in your tummy and no matter where you're playing, it's a great day. Yeah, I was running the ninth tee there when you go to the nest, which is a big shared halfway house between two and four, and Frankie did come back with a bagioli of uncrossibles. And those ones that day were, I mean, I've had a lot of them. That day they were just perfect. There's only two times that they've really tasted like that.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It was at that moment. And then also, when we were at Pebble Beach, Dave did the challenge, and then we played right after. and we were starving. And we hadn't eaten anything. I was like, I haven't eaten anything in eight hours. And this lady comes over in a cart and she's like, you guys want uncrustables? I was like, yelp.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I hadn't had an uncrustable in 10 years before that. And that started off this huge addiction I now have of uncrustable. I'll eat one like a week, which is weird. I didn't remember the name. The temperature of them is very important. The ones at Piner's number two and the ones at Pebble, they had been refrigerated. Perfectly. Yeah, but when you refrigerate them now, like when I put them in the refrigerate,
Starting point is 00:08:50 They're hard. That's what I was going to. They were perfect. I don't know how they do it. They're not frozen because if you freeze them, they are a completely different item. But if they're just cool and like the, the bread feels a little doughy almost,
Starting point is 00:09:04 that's the best unpressible. When you bite into it, the inside is so soft that you want to squeeze your teeth into it. Like you know, like you actually want to like, oh, like you want to really bite down hard. I want to live in there.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. That, I don't know how they got to that temperature where you, like you said, it's refreshing. The jelly is actually, I agree with that. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:23 We actually have those things every year for Thanksgiving football game in the morning. Right after we play a Thanksgiving football game, we'll have like 50 uncrustable sandwiches just on the sidelines, and you just pop them in your mouth. How many uncrustables lurch do you think you could eat in a single sitting? I don't know, Trent, you're right there with me, though. I've been doing the two of us weekend. What is a, you probably get, you buy a bag.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I don't know. I don't know if I've ever bought, like an uncrustable at a store, but I get them in certain. location. I don't think you get a box, I think. I get the big guys, but our eating habits are not all that similar. Like whenever you'll eat like three slices of pizza as an appetizer and then be like, I think I'm going to get a burger now.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And it's like, we got to like, I remember we went on those LaGuardia JFK and it's like, we got to get on this plane and Lurch is ordering it like a third burger. It's, I think you could put down like 15 on crossbow. Well, yeah, while we're talking about, while we're talking about just Lurch in general, no one no one has ever um enjoyed less or been less accustomed to the desert and to Scottsdale Arizona than Lurch he's just he's not made for Scottsdale or the desert he doesn't like it he can't like really get through it I don't know if it's him being a big person I don't know he doesn't like the heat but from the minute from the second that we arrived in Scottsdale
Starting point is 00:10:46 got off the plane. He just was uncomfortable. He could never quite get there where he was settled in. At one point, he said to me, when we were alone in the car, he just said, like,
Starting point is 00:10:56 you could never live here, right? And I was like, well, no, like, it's a beautiful place. I could maybe, he was just like,
Starting point is 00:11:02 no, there's, you could never live here. I was like, no, like millions of people do it. I could probably live here. He got,
Starting point is 00:11:08 you got, what, a cactus in your fucking arm? You got stung by a bee? So first T-box. So, in Scottsdale is beautiful, but it's just too hot.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's just way too hot. And when we were there, it's just too, too hot. And even this weekend, the waiter said that it's going to be 117 degrees. Now,
Starting point is 00:11:26 I know there's some to the dry heat, et cetera, but 17 degrees is a fake man. And when you're a big body, that's just too much. Like, I can't, the whole time I'm just trying to drink water
Starting point is 00:11:38 and the whole time I'm like lightheaded and don't have enough fluids in me. So it's just this constant state of a battle. But yeah, so we go play. First hole, I'm standing on the T-box, I'm doing my little roll-around, and I get stung by a B in my elbow.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And I'm like, this is terrible. And then the next hole, I pull a drive left. And for the reason, I'm just not thinking, the ball is maybe like three feet in front of this, like, little cactus, or it's like a jumping cactus. A cacti. Cacti? But it's like the thing jumps at you.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Is that multiple? It's like an active plant. Oh, maybe. So anyway. I hit a pitching wedge. I also don't think there's a couple things wrong with all this, but I don't think cactus is jumping you. No, no, no, this is a special kind of cat.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I was incorrect. I was incorrect. I think cacti is multiple. There is some type of plant that like goes at you. Remember like the Venus fly trap? Yes, of course. Or fights down on flies. Is it similar to that?
Starting point is 00:12:36 You know why I got mixed up there? Because I've been playing a lot of yatsy. And when you say dice or give me the die, you know, I thought cacti. die and that was in the back of my head. I'm going to say definitively cactus, cactus and cacti do not attack people. I don't,
Starting point is 00:12:52 like, I think that they're just stationary. Anyways, I'm pretty sure it does. But any, my thumb was covered in whatever cactus splinters. Orns.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Oh my God. It was, I mean, it was so painful. And so then I hit another shot and I was just, I'll just pick up because I got to pluck whatever's in my thumb out of my thumb. Yeah. I don't agree with you that I don't understand how people live in Arizona during the summer.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Like, their summers are similar to, like, East and Midwest winters where the conditions are so bad outside that people don't go outside in the summers in Arizona because it's so hot. You can't be outside for more than a minute or you'll be burnt. Right. I think the summers are worse there than anything on the East Coast with regards to the winter. Like, in order to match that Scottsdale summer, you'd have to go to, like, northern Alaska to match how bad it is. Yeah, I went there, like, I think in January a couple of years ago. And we went to, like, the Grand Canyon, the whole thing. And, like, I remember we had this, this, like, personal tour guy that brought us to, like,
Starting point is 00:13:55 Camelback Mountain and, like, Antelope Canyon and all this shit. And it was really cool. Probably one of my favorite places I've ever been, like, going to see all that stuff. But it was pretty hot at that point. And the guy looked at us, and he was literally, like, we were driving through, like, whatever, like, Indian Reserve or, like, Native American Reserve that was. And he's just, like, you guys would know. believe how hot it is here in a couple months like it's unlivable he said like I don't he's like
Starting point is 00:14:19 I don't understand how these people like you look out and they're living in like legitimate like not like huts or whatever but it's not like it's not real houses it's crazy like when you know and they're all there I think they're all light colored so like it doesn't absorb the sun as much do he was telling me that like in the in the rich areas out and stuff in the rich areas they actually have um instead of like pool heaters they have pool cool coolers because the water water is too hot. Like, you want to get in the pool and feel refreshed that they actually pay money to air conditioned their pools as opposed to in New York.
Starting point is 00:14:51 We, like, love heaters. That's crazy to me. Just a different life. Pool down their pool. I mean, I was thinking that the pools would just evaporate. I mean, give it a couple of days and that pool is just going to, the water is going to be gone. It's 117. I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. Yeah, I will say that we were mocking the whole dry heat thing. There's a lot of truth to it. I think there's, like, when it is. trends from the Midwest like myself like there are humid horrific stretches in the Midwest for months at a time where it'll be 90 to 90, you know, eight degrees. But the humidity makes it the second you step outside of your door in your garage, you're not even outside or not in the sun. You, you are sweating profusely. You are miserable. You can just sense it through every crevice
Starting point is 00:15:38 of your body, which is disgusting but true. Out here, unless you're out in the sun, I think it's really not that bad. And in the mornings and in the evening, it's actually fine. And then you'll be like, oh, how hot is it? It's 101. You're like, what? What do you mean? It's 101. Now, in the middle of the day, like two fucking o'clock when you're out there and it's 113 degrees and you're in the beating sun and the sun's directly above you, it's just a shocking experience. But I think like the rest of the time, it doesn't seep into everything as much. And the dry heat, which we were mocking before we arrived, there's actually a ton of truth to that. The humidity is what killed you. Totally great. I mean, humidity does kill you.
Starting point is 00:16:17 117 will kill you just as fast, though. So I am excited to be out of that climate. But there is definitely some truth to that, that the dry heat is real. Because when we were playing golf, it was like, I forget, it was like mid-90s or something like that, or maybe low 90s. And it really didn't feel that bad. However, that being said, I was lightheaded the whole time we played and I was chugging water. So, you know, maybe you can't feel as much, but it's real out there. Thinking of you walking outside reminds me of, like, and this is a shout out, rest in peace,
Starting point is 00:16:50 NEO, Mottie Kohn, the composer of the good, the bad, and the ugly. I just saw that on lights camera bars all the other day, but he's the guy who came up with that, like, noise. I just picture, I picture Lurch, like waking up in the morning and, like, grabbing himself ice-cold water and just, like, staring out at, like, this horizon, knowing what the day ahead of him has in store for him. And hearing that noise, this is going to be an absolute battle. You know what I mean? Like that fucking, you see like a tumble we go across, maybe a lizard that looks at you and just like walks back in.
Starting point is 00:17:28 The whole time you were describing your experience, that's all I thought about. Yeah, that noise is spot on. You know what's funny is when, shout out to that guy, Ennio or Ennio, Matacone, however you say his name. I mean, I don't know if I'm putting any disrespect on his name. He's dead now. But, like, you see a name like that, and you're like, I have no fucking clue to this guy is, right? And, like, why is he receiving an Instagram post from Jeff D. Lowe on, unlike Cameron Barso? Which, by the way, you're not dead until you reach that page, right?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Like, you are not officially deceased until you reach that page with the black, with the black and white photo and the white lettering underneath. No one does it better than Jeff D. Lowe and Ken Jack on that Instagram. It's incredible. The guy hasn't even called yet, and he's walking on the Instagram page. It's nuts. but they're also one of the best follows on Instagram. So I love what they're doing. Also, you type in that guy's name into Google and you're like,
Starting point is 00:18:17 there's no way I know who this is. And then you listen to all the music, he's composed. And you're like, holy shit, I know that fucking noise. That's crazy to me. It happens all the time with that Instagram account. They'll be like rest and peace to this videographer who's famous for this, whatever. And you search it and you're like, holy shit, I know that shot. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:35 That is nuts because I don't know any of that shit. I know no one. No. But as soon as you made that noise, I was like, oh, my God, I know that noise. It's iconic. Yes. Iconic. All right, it is golf season.
Starting point is 00:18:49 We're talking a lot about playing golf. People actually ask us a ton when you're going to play golf. How do you, how the hell do you book tea times? What's the best way to go? Do you just search an area called a pro shop? Do you use one of these other aggregators? Yeah, we do. It's called Supreme Golf.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Golf season, it's in full swing. Like I said, Supreme Golf has a totally reasonable. design website and mobile apps that make it incredibly easy to find the best tea times and the greatest rates. This year they've got a brand new Supreme golf rewards program. They're basically going to be paying you ladies and gentlemen to play golf. That's the dream. That's what you want. They're going to be paying you to play golf. You just book your tea times using Supreme golf. Earn rewards points for every single round that you book and turn those points into credit towards your next tea time. Barstool Classic. It's rolling right along. We're in L.A. today when you guys
Starting point is 00:19:38 guys are listening to that. I guess we're in Monarch Beach, which is halfway between L.A. and and San Diego, I've never been to Southern California. Then we're in Denver. Then we're in Atlantic City and we just roll right along. If you're playing and you're not booking your practice around T-tides with Supreme Golf, you are a moron. If you're booking any T-times and not using Spring Golf, you're just an idiot. You don't have a brain. You don't get that they have the most tea times, that they have the best deals, that their system, that they're new, the way they've rolled out and redesigned their website and their app makes it clean. They've got reviews on there so you can see what kind of shape the courses in.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They have five stars. Everybody gives them a rating and you can just kind of obviously rely on the user to understand how good the courses that you're paying for. It's the best. So sign up, SupremeGoff.com slash barstool today. That is supremegolf.com slash barstool. They've got the rewards program, the big sponsors of the Barstool Classic and go play some golf.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Question for you guys. When you get a drink and it's composed of, half lemonade and half iced tea. What do you call that drink? Arnold Palmer. Arnold Palmer? Half and a half. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I mean, it is an Arnold Palmer. It's a half and a half. Well, it's, that's like when you... Well, no, I'll say it's both. It's both. I've got no problem saying it's both. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:57 So, Homer can does say Arnold Palmer up top, but then below, because this is where he took it from, it says half and half. Well, let me... So for those, like myself, we call it a half and half. Let me ask you this. If you go up to, if you're at a restaurant, back when those were still a thing,
Starting point is 00:21:13 if you were at a restaurant and there were, really is still a thing, you can come up. Really? Still thing. Make sure you go there. If you're, if a waiter or a waitress comes up to your table and ask,
Starting point is 00:21:22 what do you guys want to drink? And you say half and half, they're going to be like, what does that mean? Coffee? That's correct. No, that did not happen.
Starting point is 00:21:29 They only do it. They may think coffee. No, he tripped me the next day, but I, I ask for half and half at every restaurant, and they get it. Every time you've ever asked for it, Every time you've ever asked for it, you have to follow it up with Arnold Palmer.
Starting point is 00:21:42 No, no, I would never, I would say half ice the half lemonade is what I said. Just cut out the middleman. That, thank you. It's infuriated. He does it every time. Yeah, no, you're, you couldn't be more, I can't believe that you do this even. It's a half an hour. Where I'm from, everybody, just nobody calls it in Arnold Palmer.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's half an hour. It's like, um. Why are you saying Arnold Palmer like that? What do you mean Arnold Palmer? Did I say it weird? No, that sounds a little. the first time. See, I think you're on the attack side, but I'm just, I think you're, you're, you have like this principled stand to call it half and half, even though it's significantly
Starting point is 00:22:20 less efficient because it requires an explanation almost every time. No, it's, what is the same as soda and pop? Same thing. No. No, it is. Why not? Because like soda and pop are like the thing. Half and half can be like misconstrued or a waiter or waitress could be like, oh, like, do you want half and half in your coffee? Like that could be a completely different product. So it's lunchtime. So like I'm coming up to you. You're working at the restaurant. You're not giving me water because it's illegal at Borrellys.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And I ask for a half and half. And what are you going to do to me? What are you going to say? First of all, and I've said this a million times, my biggest pet peeve when I was waitering. If I go over and I say, hi guys, can I get you guys something to drink? and they say no thanks will just have water would drive me fucking bananas because it's like well is water not a drink
Starting point is 00:23:11 like I said this a million times I often in my head say okay nothing to drink for you just the water can I ask you a quick sidebar question about that because I worked at a restaurant too I was content to be a bus boy anytime that asked me if I want to be a waiter I'd be like absolutely not
Starting point is 00:23:28 like I can make just about just as good of money and not have to like put on a show for everybody I went to. But anyway, did you have that pet peeve when you started? Or was that something that ground you down over the years and then it finally got to you? Something that really got to me. Like to the point where I'd hang my head like, hey guys, welcome to Borrellys. Lanes Frankie.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I'll be your waiter today. I'm going to start you guys with some drinks. No thanks. We're all just going to have water. Well, then why are you saying no thank you, right? Like I have to now bring you water and you're going to drink that. So let's not say that. Why don't you have a brain and say, yeah, actually.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, that's exactly you. Just go be in the back room and just lose your mind. I get it though. When I worked similarly, when I worked as a security guard, when I first started, I would ask, everyone would walk in and I'd ask,
Starting point is 00:24:19 how's it going? And they'd say, live in the dream. And I was like, I was totally fine at first. It's office space. Yes, but then a year into it,
Starting point is 00:24:27 when you hear the 50,000 person say, live in the dream, I want to rip their head off. So I was like, someone has a case of the Monday. One of these days, I'm just going to and then the waiter comes over. I'm like, we'll get a case of the Mondays.
Starting point is 00:24:44 One of the best movies of all time is off his face. Hands down. I can quote it from beginning to end. It's so fucking good. And honestly, I've really never worked that often in a office. I will say this, that people don't know this. I worked for a company for six months. It was, um,
Starting point is 00:25:03 It was called like something accredited. Like go accredited. It was a probably illegal or fake money company that would give out credit loans to businesses. And I hated it. I don't know. I thought like, oh, it would be like an office job. I'll do it. And boy, I did working in an office for six months.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It was the worst thing I've ever done. I like put on a little headstet. I cold called people. I ended up talking to people about Borrellas. I'm like, call this old restaurant. I'm like, hey, do you need a loan? He's like, no, but I need a new fucking like, don't. don't need her or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And I was like, ah, we got one of Raleigh's. And the guy come over to me and say, you like, suck at this job. But I don't know how we got on to this topic. Something about Arnold Palmer's. Yeah. Water.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Frankie being pissed off at life. We talk about Brooks Kefka. I think we're going to get to Brooks Kefka. I think you just got to call it Arnold Palmer. I think that solves a lot of issues. But anyways, I was just curious if anybody had ever heard that before. I'd never even heard it really called half and half before. So it just kind of blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I didn't really understand. It's like going to a restaurant and like you order a Coke, but they have R.C. Cola in the back. It's like not the real name. Like having a half and half is like the off brand version of an Arnold Palmer. No, that's where you're wrong. No, I really think that. That half and half was before all the Palmer. That's why he credits on the camp that says half and half on the camp.
Starting point is 00:26:23 No respect. Honor system going forward. Order your half and halves everywhere you go. And be honest and tell us how many times you have to say Arnold Pomer. palmer. Okay. Or half tea iced tea, half lemonade. Arnie palmy alert. Arnie palmy alert. That's right. That's right. Because if you say Arto Palmer, no, there's no follow up whatsoever. If you say half and half, more often than never, there's a fault that has to be a follower. The other guy, I would love it's the first time
Starting point is 00:26:52 I have for an awful Palmer, they look at me like, what is that? I've got a darkness inside me. In that scene, in that scene, the other guys, we got a lot of conversations going on at once, and I think that's totally fine. But if that's he, he's looking over at Will Ferrell or Mark Wahlberg and he goes, I bet you think I'm really hairy,
Starting point is 00:27:10 but I'm not shaved. Sorry. Let's talk about something else. Brooks Kepka with a, he just tweets out a GIF. And it's Kenny Powers, you know, steroids,
Starting point is 00:27:29 attacking the cameraman, Royd rage. He just tweets this out, you know, the day after Bryson D. Shambo wins on the PGA tour for the first time since the return. He came out as the Incredible Hulk. He gained 40, 50 pounds. He's gained a ton of yardage off of his tee shots.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It's all anybody and everybody's talking about. He looks ridiculous in terms of his buildup. He's a completely different human being from a physical standpoint. And Brooks Kepka, who got into it with Bryson many times over the last year, at one point where it looked like they were going to come to blows at the driving range at Liberty National when he was kind of chirping him about slow play and then Bryson said if you're you know I want to talk talk to my face Brooks was like no problem and then I guess Bryson went to Brooks to Caddy and was like where is he and they had to talk and then that continued all the way into the beginning of this year with the back and forth about winning tournaments
Starting point is 00:28:20 and then Brooks kind of dunked on Bryson about the majors with his four major championship trophies that's what got Bryson to be mad at the boys here and say good luck getting me on the podcast because he was mad that we just commented on a massive beef with two of the best players in the world. And now he tweets out this gift. That's it. There's no caption. There's no nothing else. He just tweets it out. There's a lot to break down on it. But my, I mean, it took me a second to kind of get the entire thing. But once I did, it's just an incredible tweet. It's very funny. Here's my, the conclusion I've come to in the Bryson Brooks beef.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Brooks doesn't actually care about this beef whatsoever. But he knows that Bryson very much cares about this beef. Like I think Brooks puts that tweet out and he's not thinking, oh, I think Bryson's on steroids. This is bullshit. Somebody, they should test him. He's winning. This is stupid.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I think he thinks that he knows that Bryson is going to take it very seriously because Bryson clearly takes his brand and his public image very seriously. So for someone to be like, hey, that guy might be on steroids. he's going to freak out. And I guarantee he'd be freaking out ever since he saw this. But Brooks is like, I've got all the majors. He's got none.
Starting point is 00:29:37 He's got the upper hand in all these scenarios. And he just likes poking Bryson because he knows Bryson is going to see that and completely lose his shit. Yeah, I mean, at a certain point, like, you have to lose your shit a little bit. You know, like, he basically, and I didn't,
Starting point is 00:29:52 Riggs showed me it and I didn't see because you have to, like, read the font in the bottom to really understand, like, the gift in the attack. But I mean, at a certain point, it's basically just saying Bryson's like done steroids or like hinting at it. And it's just, it's a beautiful, beautiful gift that in every way is going to make Bryson's headspin, especially after he's gone on the rant of protecting players, protecting brand, protecting image. You shouldn't show us at certain times. For this to come out is going to make Bryson's head spin. Now, I don't think he's dumb enough to do steroids.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I think he built his body in like a way. that no one could really understand. So I don't think any of that would be true. But yeah, I mean, that GIF is going to catch on. And it did. You do you think that Brooks's tweet comes from a place of any more knowledge on the situation than we have? No.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's almost if I was, if I were Brooks and I don't know how he found that GIF or if he, you know, he watches Kenny Powers and he was like, this is so perfect and I'm going to use it. But that gift is so perfect. It's almost like he would be doing everyone a disservice not to tweet it out. And I feel like that was almost part of his motivation. We're like, it's attacking a cameraman. It says he's trying to address the steroid allegations.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It's too perfect not to put out there. Yeah, it's crazy how spot on that is. I mean, and you know, and I think you guys nailed it, I think these are perfectly planned attacks on Bryson's brain. I think that Brooks is Bryson's like kryptonite, like everything. that Brooks says Bryson now he hones in and he won't stop until he, like, proves older brother, like, wrong or, like, he beats older brother and whatever it is. Because, like, you know, he said he was, he could beat him up in a fight,
Starting point is 00:31:42 and then Briceon became the Incredible Hulk. And now he says he's on steroids. And now I guarantee Bryson's going to go on this, like, anti-steroid going to schools talking about how steroids like hurt your body and the right way to he's going to show like his full routine on how he works out and all this stuff i think i think he's going to do all that and take a step further i think he's going to put out his blood work i think he's going to show getting blood drawn and then he's going to put out the documentation like he he is going to take this so far to prove that he's not on steroids when like we're saying brooks just put that and he was like
Starting point is 00:32:18 this is going to drive this dude it's like saying that uh it's like when like the CIA or someone or like the SEC like leaks out that maybe your house is like tapped or wired and then you see these people go insane like looking for it and they rip up there like I'm thinking of an episode of billions from like last season where like like acts actually found out that like maybe his office was tapped and he's ripping the walls down and like and he's sitting in there and there's nothing in there like that's kind of what Brooks does to Bryson where he plants this little seed and Bryson will rip down the walls of his life until he finally finds it if he doesn't he just ends up being a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And Brooks is just like on his boat sipping a Mick Ultra the whole time. Yeah, I've gone so back and forth on both these guys. And it's honestly like, I'm a flip-flopper. I'm a pancake maker. Like it's, I can't get a gauge on either of these guys. I want to hate Brooks for like acting like he's too cool for golf. Like he's that guy in high school musical that can sing. But when he's around his jocks, his jock friends, he like, like, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Like, I don't like doing that shit. And then like, meanwhile, he's, like a beautiful songbird in his bathroom. And then I also used to hey, Bryson for all the disingenuous shit, but they are both so fucking entertaining and so funny at this point. Like, that gift made me
Starting point is 00:33:33 love Brooks again. And it's like that freezing cult take thing where they're like, oh, you shouldn't have said this at one point. It's like, well, at that point, I thought that way about that person. And now I think this way about this person. Like, I think Brooks is fucking hilarious. I want to be best friends with them that he came out with that gift. That is a funny
Starting point is 00:33:49 gift. If someone sent that in a group text me, I would laugh my ass off. I'd laugh for hours. I mean, I think that's why I caught some attraction. It's hysterical. The gift is so perfect. Brooks is good at this stuff too. He's got the beat with Brandel and recently he was throwing darts at a Brandl-Shambly dartboard. And like, that's just really funny. Honestly, he's cut from the same clop as our friend Big Cat. He's got that like big cat, like that's why he's friends with him. He's got that Big Cat type like humor where he is like, like, part of my take has really done well with that like sarcastic jock humor.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Like PFT is one of the best of it at all time. And like Brooks really blends well with them because he is that to golf. He is that like he's like that stereotypical jock. And I always say that high school musical thing where it's like you are that guy that's like, and he's not supposed to be in this group of guys. Brooks Skepka is not supposed to be in the same world as Webb Simpson. He's just not. He's supposed to be like with his girlfriend who's wearing crazy outfits at award shows and he's
Starting point is 00:34:50 getting his hair, like, buzzed off with his shirt off, and he's, like, ripped and tan and doing the fucking golf issue naked, and his ass looks perfect and shit. I mean, I don't want to get too... Don't get a little crazy. Chill out, dude. It's just, it's early. But it's just, he's so fucking funny, man. Like, him, him doing it just to piss up Bryson is one is my favorite thing of all time.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That makes him very likable. Part of me, part of me just wonders if... he would consider at all or if he doesn't he might not care i think the consensus probably to me he doesn't care but like it's such a serious allegation that would he put that tweet out without any basis or any extra knowledge than we have or did he see the gift somebody probably sent it to him on a group text or something like that where it popped up and he was like this is too perfect i just have to tweet it based on literally nothing else other than what we've seen Like, to me, that would be, that would be a ballsy, ballsy move because, like, it's going to be talked about by every publication.
Starting point is 00:35:57 If we talked about us, the word steroids and Bryson in the same sentence over and over and over again because of this tweet. And Brooks Kepka is not an idiot. He knows that. So, like, part of me thinks he has to know something. Not that it's definitive, but, like, you got to know something in order to put that out there in the mainstream. I just. Maybe the word steroids is very like, maybe the word steroids is very general. I mean, I would tend to believe that Bryson has some sort of supplement that, I mean, he's the most scientific dude of all time.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He knows every single part of his body down to like molecular level of his atoms. Like everything that makes him, he knows all the information about. And it wouldn't surprise me if he was using something to generate like the highest level of weightlifting. I mean, I don't think he's take. shooting up steroids like in his ass cheek in the middle of a men's locker room. But I would assume that he's doing something. I mean, I also don't think Bryson would ever break the rules of golf because he's so, so like maybe he's pushing the boundaries because who can get that big that quick?
Starting point is 00:37:02 I think that's maybe what Brooks is alluding to. Like it's impossible. It's physically impossible. Well, I think if Brooks knows or knows anything more than we do, then it's a much bigger attack on Bryson than anything else. Like if he knows as much as us, then it's. it's a good, like, funny humor jab. But if he knows something more,
Starting point is 00:37:21 then it's like a legit attack on Bryson. And I don't think it's coming from that place. I do. I don't think he knows more than we do. I think Brooks also knows that like straight-laced media places are also going to look at it and think maybe he does know more than he's letting on. And now we can put Bryson and steroids on our, you know, lower third and we can talk all about it. But I also think Brooks knows about places like us and PMT. And they can be like, isn't it funny that I put this out?
Starting point is 00:37:47 but it was obviously just a joke and no one should take it all that seriously, but he knows people well, including Bryce. Yeah. I think, I mean, VJ Singh, right, was doing the dear thing at one point. He ended up getting like suspended for a couple months,
Starting point is 00:38:02 I believe for doing that, which it's like you, I don't know. So, I mean, there's definitely different ways to do it. He's clearly doing something, but by something like supplements and all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:38:12 that stuff's just fine. You're able to just do that. But he is. He's obviously maxing everything. out there's no way he didn't do his research. Like, how can I get his jacked as humanly possible within the rules of golf, theoretically, in this amount of time. So it was, it's a great tweet.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It's such a perfect gift. I even nobody thought that that perfect of a gift even existed for the situation. Right. Let me tell you this. If Bryson does, like, test positive for steroids at any point, that is going to be an amazing day. That is like, that would just, he's Mr. Headlines right now. He's Mr. Polarizing right now.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Just imagine if that would happen. I don't think it's going to. I agree with you guys that he's doing everything likely within the lines of like gaining all this weight. But that would be fucking insane. Yeah, I wonder. Yeah. I wonder how actively the tour is out to prove one way or the other. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Like I, you know, like do they want to even test him that? Because he's striving so much right now. He's driving. He's winning. He's driving headlines every week, multiple times a week. So it's like how proactively are they even seeking to find out if what he has done is within the rules or not? And, you know, how like if he is kind of borderline, how are, how inclined are they going to be to report that versus just, hey, Bryson, take a couple of weeks off. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I just don't know how that whole fucking thing plays out because the tour has always been crazy secretive about punishments, fines. Yeah. All of that stuff. We've speculated forever, like reasons that guys have taken leaves or, or not. played in events and all kinds of stuff. So it's the and again, the fact that Brooks tweeted that out leads to these conversations, which is amazing that he did it. But it is like that gift wouldn't have worked until Saturday. Like, right? Like it wasn't like he could have had that ready to go forever. Like he went after a camera guy and he got. It's, it's amazing. So the whole thing is great.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Well done by Brooks. And Frankie, I'm with you where it's like, I'm out on Brooks sometimes. He's too, too cool for school. Then I'm in on Brooks because he does shit like that. And he wins majors. So it's like the whole fucking thing. It's great. Golf's in a good place. And Tiger will be back next week, most likely, which is also great news.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Bad news, but I think, you know, understandable and expected news. The Ryder Cup officially postponed until 2021, pushing everything back. So they're just pushing all team events, basically, in men's professional golf backwards. So the Ryder Cup is going to go back to odd years. for forever until something happens. And the President's Cup's just going to move to even years. And they're just going to do that, you know, until, again, something happens that, that switches it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I believe 9-11 is when it went from odd years to even years. And then now we're back because of COVID. So it was expected. This was reported a week or two ago. Bob Herrick, our old friend, I believe, got the scoop yesterday. So way to go, Bob. And the rider cups postponed. unfortunately it'll probably be back to even 10 years again something crazy will fucking happen because this world stinks so um you know at this point nothing surprises me it's the right move you got to have the fans and especially for team event speaking of president's cup and tiger which he just brought up i tweeted out this clip last night it was from the pGA tour twitter of tiger at mirrofield during the 2013 president's cup um you know i'm just going through twitter i see him absolutely stick this wood and i wrote it three wood i'm like can you imagine sticking it three wood like this and everyone's like what
Starting point is 00:41:43 Well, actually, it's a five wood. Well, actually people on Twitter are some of the worst people of all time. I said, can you imagine sticking a three wood like this? And most people are like, holy fuck. And these people are like, well, actually, it's the five wood. And I responded to them saying, oh, well, now it's completely relatable. Like, you're right. Like, oh, it's a five wood?
Starting point is 00:42:04 No problem. 265 into the wood. 265, like into the wind. Like, fucking just sticking it to five feet during the President's Cup. No problems there. Five wood? Oh, that's so much spin rate. You kidding me? Easy. It's like a wedge. Fuck those people. I saw that video. That was wildly impressive. He took a beautiful high cut. He took a divot with whatever three wood, five would it was. And then it just plumbed. It was like checked up like three feet below the hole. I can't take a divot from 110 yards out with a 58 degree, 100 or 52 degree. I cannot take a divot. I pick it clean every single time. He took the best divot I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:42:42 with a five wood from over 250 yards out. There was also a video that the PGA tour put together of some of Tigers' like longest stripes into par fives and just being really fast. And one of them, I was just like one of them, he was 275 out on, I think it's, it's on the back nine at Mearfield at par five that like dog legs left and then
Starting point is 00:43:05 back right and it's got the little creek and like that runs along the entire hole. And he's 275 out and hits a two iron to like, four feet. And I'm just like, if I'm 275 out with a driver on a T, I cannot get there. Like that, that's just like so unlikely that I could get there.
Starting point is 00:43:23 He's just got a two iron off the fucking turf. He has to hit a cut over this creek to a back left pin and he just rips the two iron to 275. You're just like, that is, that's cheating. That's not fair. You can't,
Starting point is 00:43:37 no one can play against that. How could you play? Did you imagine that generation that he was just whitewashing? Because that was the, generation prior. What they're like how that's, like, you have to get... Dude, can I talk about that generation? It's like he just, he just did that the whole generation.
Starting point is 00:43:50 That generation, someone texted me, my buddy Tim the other day, texting, he's like, hey, I'm listening to the podcast, and I heard you guys talking, like, how stunning it is that DJ has 21 wins and a major in his first 13 years. Like, that seems like such a high number. And he's like, can you even fathom the fact that Tiger Woods in his first 12 years, that's a year shorter than what we were talking about DJ? And remember, we were stunned at how many wins DJ has compiled.
Starting point is 00:44:16 In his first 12 years of his career, Tiger Woods had 65 wins and 14 majors. I saw somebody. That's insanity. Tiger stat come out on Twitter and it was something to that effect and it just blew my mind. That's those numbers. I mean, when you just go through his numbers, it's laughable. You can't have an honest reaction other than to just giggle. Like, oh, he did that.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Oh, wow. So this was the stat that I saw come out on Twitter. Bryson won his six PGA tour event in his 99 start as a pro, an impressive clip to begin a career. Tiger won 27 of his first 99 PGA tour starts. How many of that generation were just sitting in their hotel rooms on Friday, Saturday nights, being like, I just can't do this anymore. I don't want to do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It's not even fun anymore. This guy just wins everything. He's winning at an insane clip, and they're just on the edge of their bed. And their boxers, like, I just don't want to do this anymore. I know. Well, the guys at the top, yes, with the guys that are like 21st. Now it's like, oh, I finish 22nd every week, but I make twice as much money. So this is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Fair. But it is. Like, he just, I love when they pull the clips up, two of guys, you know, in 96. And when he's first turning pro, being like, yeah, no, we've heard about this a lot where people come on and they, you know, there's a lot of hype. And, you know, we'll see if he can really, you know, how he can really perform. form out here. It's a different game or professional golf. And then he just won the Masters by 12 shots.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Everyone's like, oh, yeah, all right. Right, because they're in their head, they're thinking, chances are I'm going to be right, because there's a 1, there's a 0.1% chance that this guy is like, you know, Mozart holding a golf club, and then it just happened. And it's like, all those old clips, you've got to be like, ah, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I was, yeah. Holy shit, man. Frankie, I'm curious if you have any thoughts on perhaps what the best skincare product, especially under your armpits, could be in the world or usable or small company? It's cold ores and alps. It's cold ores and alps, guys, and it's the best product I can possibly push. I use it every single day.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I've often said that if they go out of business, I don't know what I'm going to do because I'm now hooked. I need it. It's a necessity. It's like water and bread. When there's a pandemic hitting, everyone's running to go get their wonder bread and their milk and their water, and I'm going to get Orsoned Alps. because I know that I need to hunker down and make sure that I'm feeling good, I'm smelling good.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It's animal cruelty-free. It's natural deodorant, which, like, everyone says that you want to jump into, but then they get afraid of smelling and, like, going through that process and the detox process. Honestly, that detox process is good for you. Like, you're supposed to go through that. You're supposed to smell for the first week or whatever. I didn't smell, luckily, because I'm a delicate little flower, as Nick Thalda once called me. But this or a pedal, a delicate little pedal, I think he called me.
Starting point is 00:47:10 The problem with real big deodorant is that it leaves those nasty marks under your armpit. Sometimes you get that big gulp of like white crusty deodorant residue and it like sticks to your armpit hair and you're like, ah, it feels like you're fucking waxing yourself. Other times your shirts get yellow. It's just disgusting. Like, why can't you wear a white t-shirt like this and just feel good? I'm wearing a white t-shirt. I got oars and alps on. Nothing's on it.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Nothing. I'm feeling nimble. I'm feeling good. Orson-alps is the yellow. You bet. You know, Stephen Che, one of our, I don't know what you even consider him anymore. Like, what is his role? He's just, he's everything.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't know. But he also does something with the, on the sales side, right? Oh, yeah, he does a ton of stuff. Yeah. Data, um, data mining. I don't know what he does. People would probably know him as producer of the yak, I would say. He's become a wildly good character in Barstles.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Somehow, some way, whatever, whatever his title is, he's a utility player. He plays second, third, short, outfield, catcher first base, whatever he's got to do. He mess. last night and he's like man like I'm going in on ors and else now he's like I just watch your instagram story and like what's the best like scent and I'm ordering it like tonight and so it really I'm not kidding I wouldn't say it this often if I didn't think it was the best well you can get 15% off oars and alps which is the best it is the only stuff that we use for our skin for our deodorant because they are a life changing company you won't be able to use anything else
Starting point is 00:48:39 and if ores and alps something were ever to happen to them i'm with frankie we're like no i just have to have that so you guys need to go back into business because i can't put anything else under my arms or on my skin it just won't work i have to have oars and alps riggs is the code you get 15% off you go to ors and alps you're going to get that 15% off your entire order use the code rigs oars and alps we love yours and alps go get some try it you're going to love it um Jim Bones-McCai is on the bag for Matthew Fitzpatrick this week. Pretty cool little article where Fitz, who's one of our guys, of course,
Starting point is 00:49:13 he said I was shocked honestly in terms of how this happened. I was absolutely shocked. I think the CEO of Workday, which is this is the Workday charity event this week, sort of helped me out with Bones, got in touch. He sort of texted me and we took it from there. And then Bones said,
Starting point is 00:49:31 having seen Matt play for several years now, getting paired with him when I was still with Fon's, I knew two things, that he was a really good player and a really good guy, which I like to hear. That's one of our guys. When I heard through the grapevine that some of the European caddies weren't coming over because of the quarantine issues, I heard Billy in particular wasn't coming with Matt. I thought, my goodness, I'm going to reach out to this guy because I love to caddy. I still consider myself a caddy to this day, who's just doing TV, and I said if I can help you
Starting point is 00:49:56 out. So, Maddie fits with an iconic, a legendary caddy, bones on the bag this week, would be cool to see something magical from those two happen. But nice to see two guys who we like pair up and get bones back on the bag. I'm excited for fits. The courting process of caddy and players is so funny and interesting to me because it is like courting someone you're trying to date. And every time you see a story like this one between Maddie Fitz and Bones-Wa-Kai,
Starting point is 00:50:23 there's always, oh, I heard through the grapevine that things are, you know, things maybe aren't going so well, or maybe that guy's open. And it is, it's similar to like, oh, I heard that person broke up with this person. and maybe I can send him a text and then Bones sends Maddie Fitz like a, hey man, if you ever need anything, you know, let's grab a drink. And it's like, that's, and it just works out that way. There's no official process of, I don't have a caddy, how do I get one? It's all through text messages and through the grapevine.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It's just all very funny and interesting. Yeah, it is. And it never like, the Stevie will, you know, like Stevie Williams story about how he gets it. And it's like life, these life changing moments where it's like Stevie Williams didn't believe it was tiger and like tiger called him like had to call him three times the first time i guess he had some cb williams had some buddy who had like a pretty good impression of tiger and so he was just like fuck off mate like leave me alone tiger call back was like no no no like this is tiger woods and he's like seriously stop calling me third time he's like hey man i don't know what else to
Starting point is 00:51:20 tell you like i'm tired it's like the stories are really really good um and even with like joey la cava where they, you know, it's like talk about how the loyalty where Joe La Cobra for years wasn't working could have easily jumped on the bag for anyone. I mean, he had one of masters with Freddie couples. He was on DJ's bag. So he clearly could have could have caddied for a top 10, 20 player in the world, no problem. And instead just sat on the sidelines. He was like, no, I'm Tiger Woods is caddy. And everyone's like, well, Tiger Woods isn't playing golf anymore. So no, he will. And when he does, I'm going to be there. And so like that type of loyalty everybody talks about it, it is the same terms. And,
Starting point is 00:51:58 sort of way that people speak about relationships. It's like, you know, maybe your man gets locked up. Maybe your man gets locked up. He was holding it down at home. Joey La Caba was holding it down. He was like, you can get with anybody. He's like, I'm waiting for my man to get out. And then Tiger Woods got out.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And boy, did that pay off. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One of the most iconic moments in sports. There's Joe, look. I got the first hug. Just Joe La Caba right there. So that fucking paid off.
Starting point is 00:52:24 No doubt about that. But anyways, good luck. Two fits this week. And then, you know, we do have the back-to-back two tournaments at Mearfield Village. Cool in the sense that, you know, this was supposed to be John Deere Classic Week, and we don't have to watch that tournament. We instead get to watch them play Meerafield at the workday, which is great. It's a good value out.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I think most people are excited about that. It is a little bit weird that it's just the same golf course and that they're just, the only thing they're changing is, like, conditions. Like, oh, yeah, greens will be a little bit. faster. It'll be a little bit tougher pins, maybe a little bit higher rough the second week for the Memorial. And it feels like there could have, it feels like a little bit of a missed opportunity.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Like we talk all the time, Trent talks all the time about even the John your classic. Just go crazy. Just allow crazy shit to be experimented with. That's what the European tour does. This would have been a great opportunity for that, for just experimentation, maybe half the the clubs in the bag. I don't know. Like do some fucking nuts, wild stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:27 you only get 10 clubs in the bag. You only get seven clubs in the bag. You have to play, I don't know, you just make it a par three tournament. Like do something different to have it stick out. Instead, they're just playing the same golf course two weeks in a row, which I feel like could get a little bit redundant, but at least they're playing.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, two weeks in a row is strange to me. But like you said, if that's all we have and that's all we can go with, I'd like to see them add a little bit of a wrinkle, not too much of a buffet of bits, but somehow change up something. I don't know, maybe like a couple of shots they have to tee off from like other sides of the road or something on top of a building or something.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You got to like really change up the layout. Just make it look different on TV the second week. Somehow, some way make it look different. I'm surprised they didn't flip-flop them in the schedule so that they could have cut the rough back and made it like easier next week and like experimented with a few things. But yeah, I mean you got to try something to make this exciting
Starting point is 00:54:23 because it is going to be the same thing. Pretty much over again, it seems like. I was surprised by that too because Jack, the Memorial, pretty iconic. It's a top, what is it, a top four event outside of the majors on tour, I would say. You've got the players, you've got the Memorial, you've got, what, East Lake? And what else is up there? What else is, like, is big? Arnold Palmer used to be up there.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah, I don't know now. People, since Arnold Palmer passed, I don't think it draws the same fields that it used to. so like but it's up there is the point and for them to to be like oh we're going to be the second running of the basically the same golf tournament i guess it's all logistics i guess it's all like pre-planning and no this is like when it was going to be hospitality's been sold you know ad deals have been sold this is when folks are going to do the tournament i would guess that's the reason tv writes all that but yeah it's it's a little bit surprising if they're going to run this thing first that's clearly a watered down shittier version of the memorial and then run the actual
Starting point is 00:55:26 Memorial following week. It's just, it's just going to be a little bit bizarre. But hey, we get to watch golf. And Mirfield Village is a phenomenal golf course. All kinds of drama. Always plays pretty tough. Water down the stretch. They got a little bit of a gust of feel with the 12th hole and that 16th hole where there's water. And it's really hard to hit the green. They're angled a little sideways. So it's going to be very fun to watch. But it feels like a little bit of a missed opportunity where they could have done some crazy shit experimented a little bit. So it'll be fun to walk. Mr. Stocker, where's privacy. Doct?
Starting point is 00:55:57 And I just got my email. It's docked. Do you get daily emails? You get daily up there? In Florida. You guys see it? Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I saw privacy. Yeah. I get a noon update. It's called the position report. And it's in, it's insane. The position report. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:21 That's right. So, I mean, if that thing moves, I'm going to know. And I don't think he's going to take it to the memorial. I think it's too inland. Yeah. I think he's going to fly his ass right in there,
Starting point is 00:56:32 stay at a fucking awesome hotel, hop back in his PJ and fly. One guy tried to give me, I guess, you know, every plane, Lurch, you probably know this.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Did your grandfather fly planes? Believe it or not. He should drop rocks outside the back, back to see how deep the water was, seaplane. You know, the plane has like its tail number or whatever the hell they call it.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And you, that's all public information too. So you can track where Tiger's plane goes. I haven't gotten that far yet. That's a whole different app. And I feel like the yacht thing, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:03 There's a little bit of a, I don't know. I haven't done that yet. I might get to that point. Point is the boat still in fucking Florida. So you feel the plane is more creepy than the boat? I don't think either one of them's creepy. No.
Starting point is 00:57:14 What's your hesitation? I feel like the boat is one way and you kind of faded away. No, here's why. Here's why. Because the plane just goes so quickly that it just is there. The boat, there's like a legitimate journey. True.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So I think like tracking the journey, there's a little bit more excitement. The plane, it's just like, this is just where it's just there now. It's there like an hour. So it's a little different. I don't think either one of them is creepy in any way,
Starting point is 00:57:38 shape or four. I mean, public information. And like Frankie said, like when guys are trying to sign free agency, it's very well known. Like,
Starting point is 00:57:48 oh, he landed in fucking Atlanta on a plane and everybody talks about that. Why is it creepier to be like, this is where Tiger's going. I'm trying to figure out where it. I don't know if it's legal. or not, but if I were Tiger and maybe this is happening, I don't know, like, what is,
Starting point is 00:57:59 what is the tracker that they have on it? Like, is it, uh, what is it? I, because I would throw that in another boat and have it be the dummy boat and have my actual privacy be off the grid. That's a good question. I don't, I don't know. I imagine it's just a little GPS chip or something that they, they have in there. But if your boat is of a certain size, it has to be public information. And so that's kind of on tight. I mean, if you're going to be, if you're going to have that big of a boat, my man, you know, we're going to know, we're going to know. We're going to know where that fucking thing is. I'm just stunned that he's willing to be on the grid like that.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I know. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I too, like a big part of me believed that he wasn't on the boat, but that the boat was going where he was going to be. I think we learned that like he was on the boat.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And afterwards I felt a little bit like I wish I wouldn't have because he's on the, I'm just watching him float across the sea. That's, you know, that's like, it's felt a little different. But anyways, speaking of distances and like people. and where they are and stuff,
Starting point is 00:58:56 did you know that the International Space Station is the same distance from where we are right now as New York to Boston? So, like, if you drive from New York to Boston, that distance is the same distance if you, like, just put it upward. Drove straight up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. That might be the best Frankie stat of all time because that's mind-blowingly short. To me, it seems like, that seems extremely short. The fact that I can make that drive to Boston and be like, oh, like, if I was just in a rocket going this speed, I'd just make it to space, the International Space Station. It seems incorrect, right?
Starting point is 00:59:36 What do they get to the space station in 30 minutes? What's the difference in speed, though? How fast is the rocket? They have to get there in like 15 in like four minutes, right? Ah, shit. Like they're eating lunch in the-per-speed, did you fuck me? They're eating lunch in the NASA lunchroom, and then like, all right, you guys got to hop on this rocket.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And then, what, 25 minutes later, they're just chilling on the space station? So it's like 320 miles away kind of thing? That doesn't sound that bad, actually. That has to be farther than that. No, that sounds, I'm okay with that. You're okay with that? Yeah, dude. Bro, the International Space Station is only 254 miles in the air.
Starting point is 01:00:18 It's fucking nuts. That's shocking. It's stunning. How far is the moon? I think it's far. Like it's really far. Moon's got to be quite a bit further. I was going to say like 100,000 miles.
Starting point is 01:00:32 500 miles. How does it take 24 hours to get to the International Space Station if you're in a rocket flying up into the space? If it's the same distance as from here to New York and we can get here to Boston, we can get to Boston in what, five hours? Well, you've got to get it to orbit and then like slow down and time up the- That's the issue. It's all orbital.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It's got to be on orbital. Well, get this. now. Okay? I got the moon distance from how close the moon is to Earth. Do you guys want to do some guesses? 500. No,
Starting point is 01:01:03 way higher. 10,000 miles. I'm going to say 40,000 miles away. 238,000 miles away. What? Why is the space station might as well be in fucking, you know, a skyscraper? It might as well be the bodega across the street from my apartment. What is up with that?
Starting point is 01:01:24 make any sense. No way. I'm... Man, that's a mind-blowing fact. That's a fucking Frankie fact. I'm going to tell you what, the International Space Station, it ain't shit. It's nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:36 It's right there. It's right next door. It's not doing anything. I can't believe how far the moon is. Hit me with Mars, Trent. Trent, hit me with Mars. How far as Mars? It takes 30 years to get there.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Is it a billion miles? A hundred million miles? 72 million miles away. Crazy. That's far. Elon Mustings is going to get there after he makes his fucking little little underground railroad thing in L.A. where he basically just invented a subway system. Remember that?
Starting point is 01:02:12 It's like, oh, we're going to have this railroad system underground and we're going to ship, we're going to move people from L.A. to San Francisco in 35 minutes or something like ridiculous. And they're like, you're just building a subway. It's just a less efficient tunnel. It's a tunnel. Yeah, it's a tunnel. I just can't believe the thing.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Space Station is 238 miles away. It's just not. I would have guessed that thing just like has to dodge the moon every day, like that they're in the same, right? They're just doing the same thing. Yeah. Wow. Me too.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Wow. Yeah, that's just, I don't know, that kind of racked my brain a little bit. If you've been dealing with something quite different than space travel, although this might affect your skin. If you've been dealing with acne, redness, dark spots, or wrinkles, I didn't really know how to transition. Finding treatment that works can be complicated. You need skincare that actually performs, but getting started can be very overwhelming. Thankfully, there's a solution. Roman makes it convenient to get customized prescription skincare that really actually performs.
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Starting point is 01:04:19 needed a huge par and 18 to be in the group of winners. He had a two footer for par, hits the center of the flag stick, and the ball bounces out. My playing partner said it's a bogey because you're allowed to leave the flag stick in now. I said that's the only reason I left the flag in is because you can't remove it due to COVID restrictions. Should the puck count who is right in this situation? The reason that I bring that up is obviously we've all been going through like COVID cups. You've got pooled noodles. You've got PVC pipes.
Starting point is 01:04:48 You get all kinds of different options. Plastic. There's all kinds of different stuff that you see nowadays. And at the Barstool Classic at Hazeltine, the guy came over to me and said, hey, I had a put on the last hole for birdie. It was like a six-footer. It clearly would have gone in the hole if it weren't for COVID stuff. Our whole group agrees that it would have gone in the hole, but we got screwed because the COVID cups. Should we count it as a par?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Should we count it as a birdie? And I said, if the ball doesn't go into the hole, it doesn't go into the hole, that's it. There's no way that we can just judge and have each group judging their own, you know, situations. The ball should go in the hole. It's simple. It just has to go in the hole. I'm sorry. You probably did get screwed.
Starting point is 01:05:22 but there's nothing else we can do. So what do you guys think the proper ruling is for this guy in his game? I think in a more tournament setting, like at the Barstow Classic, you have to have a certain rule in place so that, you know, like you said, you can't decipher which one was supposed to go in, which one didn't go in. You have to have just like the ball has to go in the hole. But if you're playing just a friendly game at a country club or with your pals or whatever and you're in a match, I think that you should be able to use judgment on the fact.
Starting point is 01:05:52 that like, all right, you absolutely got screwed there. You hit a great shot, great putt, went inside the hole, popped back out. Some of these, like you said, have plastic that are only like an inch or too deep. They have, like, you can barely even get the ball to stay in the hole. So, I mean, golf was not created to have the ball pop out of the hole. You're supposed to get it in it. So I really do hate these COVID cups.
Starting point is 01:06:15 But, yeah, I'm on the general rule that, like, if you're with your buddies or whatever, you guys can just decipher which, I've done it before. I'm like, ah, that actually just like, I made that putt and it came out. And everyone's like, yeah, we all saw that. Yeah, I think the rules just have to be, you've got to create them up front. It makes it so much easier. I will say when we were playing Spy this past weekend, it felt like it was only a half inch below the actual like cut line of the green.
Starting point is 01:06:40 So you'd hit it and it would just like roll through it and pop out. And so we started just giving pots in that way. But I think you just got to, you know, those rules got to just be created up front. And then, you know, if you say that everything's got to go. down but you can make a group decision if it was like dead center then sure but uh yeah when you've got just four guys i think it's easy it's like if everyone agrees then it was just good i think that's simple but like we can't and it may in a legitimate tournament i you know no someone their problem was like that there were just i guess there were more than they were like 15 but still they didn't agree so i
Starting point is 01:07:10 guess that's the part where you run into a problem if i'm there i mean i would have just been like yeah that was good the crazy times things are going to happen and that would have counted yeah uh so just settled among your group that's our answer a lot of times. Like just agree with your group to just have normal human judgment. And that's fine. The only reason it's different to the Barstow Classic is because we can't watch every hole and see every put. So there's no way. It also makes arguments come up. And I love that. Like debating and fighting and screaming and hating each other. I like, yeah. I mean, Frank, you've taken multiple arguments into the parking lot. So it's, it's, it's no one of the
Starting point is 01:07:44 argument that went into the Borrelli's parking lot. The good good. The good argument was so hostile. It was, it was us at each other's throat, screaming. Girlfriends came. Like, putting our bags in our cars. I'm like, what don't you understand? Frankie loves that world. Holy fuck. Oh, golf arguments have, have spilled over into every part of my life, obviously.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And if that's Frankie and I. I still can't believe my partner gave him the good, good. after he put his. Like, it should have been good, good before you put that. But, like, ours was in a tap-in range. He still had to go 50 feet. You don't wait to see how he does. Like, just, it blew my mind that that's what happened.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And I just argued the wrong thing. I said that he disrespected the rule of God, the rule. And I was wrong. I was wrong. And then the last one that we have today is, Chris says a scramble question is the four-play scramble, would the four-play scramble, four-man scramble, versus Dave Portnoy, Unlimited Mulligan's, who wins, and how long is the match? So Dave wins because he has unlimited mulligan, and I think the match goes on until he wins.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Well, if it's the same rules as he has to play in the U.S. Open when he does the Unlimited Mulligan, at Mogan's got five hours and 15 minutes. Okay, if you put a time constraint on it, then it's a match. Then I think we both, yeah, I think we win that one. He just wins because he just doesn't quit until he makes a puck. I mean, without the time period. Right. Without the time constraint, that thing could go, it could be a whole weekend.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Yeah, it could be forever. We just might never leave the course. Yeah, he just wouldn't stop until he made a birthday. So, like, we would lose. But that's what he kept saying during that challenge. You guys don't understand. and I have unlimited mulligans, so I will win. I will never stop until I get the ball and null.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Like it's just like if you want to talk about actual facts, he would win that. Now, but again, if we're going by the rules that he did play at Shinnecock, which it was five hours and 15 minutes, he shot four under at Shinnecock. and we shot about 2 under at Pioneer's number two. So I think it would be a close match, but I think we would probably lose. I think we would lose too. He gets unlimited mulligan.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah, I know. You guys saw that in person. I didn't see it in person. I mean, I saw it feel like Periscope and other, but it's tough for me to think that we'd lose in five hours. But, yeah, I mean, based on just like that's a number of four under and us a couple wonder. It would be about time management for him at that point.
Starting point is 01:10:45 It wouldn't be about anything else. Problem is that people think that he can't put, like, we originally thought that he couldn't get the ball in the air to the point where he would clear these 23, 2.30, 240 carries from the tips and stuff. And he did. Like, he somehow, he didn't have a bad thing. He dribbled a ton of them, like 30 in a row from the fairway, 40 in a row. But then he'd crush a five iron, 195 yards onto the game.
Starting point is 01:11:11 green. It's like, let's go putt for the next hour. And then, right. And then he would take 45 putts until one of them went in and he'd be like, yeah, birdie. And you're just like, man, he had so many bad shots on that hole, but he made a birdie. And like, I just don't think we, I don't know, I think it'd be, I do think it'd be close. But like, I think he would eventually win like two or three up. I think he'd beat us. We should do that, but we'd need 10 hours of, like, I mean, I know it's five hours, but like, man, that would, I think you, I don't know. It's just us hit in four shots, him hitting 50, would be such a circus. There's another one that I would say we would have a better chance from a shorter course.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I think we'd have a better chance. I don't know. He's just going to hit until he gets what he wants. I've been thinking about the whole challenge and like if we start playing these guys from shorter distances, we're going to put up really, really low numbers because like I said, I played a scramble with my buddy with no shoes on from like a 6,300-yard course, and we had four good golfers, decent golfers,
Starting point is 01:12:15 and we went eight under and nine holes. But like, so like a pro is not even keeping up with that. The only problem is, if you play some like- They're going to get close to that, I bet. They're going to get really close. But if you play a guy like Bryson
Starting point is 01:12:26 at one of these courses, holy shit, I would love to do it against him. Imagine our four drives wouldn't even come close to him. It would be a hundred yards shorter on some way. That would be so fun. That would be the best.
Starting point is 01:12:39 He would be a hundred yards behind him. Yeah. I mean, he hits at 370. We hit at 270. That's just what it is. We get killed. Jason at Piner's who would have gotten killed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:51 That's nothing against Kiz, but his distance would have been, we wouldn't have been able to keep up with it. There were times where Kiz was even with us, and like he found himself in a bunker and couldn't hit the green too. And Bryson would have been hitting, flipping wedges onto the fucking green from those spots. Yeah. We should do this in some way.
Starting point is 01:13:11 We should try to play Dave and the other. I wonder if he thinks he would beat us. I'm not really sure. But it's a good question. It's a fun one to ponder. Maybe we'll try to do it at Wingfoot. Yeah, Wingfoot's coming up. Be a good spot for him.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Dave Portnoy versus the four-man scramble. Dave Portnoy on Limited Mulligan's versus the four-play scramble. We would need two days. We'd put a circus act on one day and then back nine on the second day. We would people's golf media's brains would melt in half. He's getting, he's getting, I'm letting them all right in the far play guy.
Starting point is 01:13:42 What's going on? It's a combination of everything they hate all in the ground. Everything. Yeah. Oh, it'd be a mess. We'd be untucked shirts, backwards, ads, playing music. It's a shit show. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Everyone have a great weekend. I think that's all that I have. Do you guys have any picks for the weekend? Yeah. I do have a pick. I have a pick. Patrick Cantley. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:09 13 to 1, I believe he is. Can I take the Kepka brothers? Damn, I would you be able to take two people? I was going to take Brooks. Because it's just, you know, I'm a brother guy. I got a brother I'd like to be able to take both. No, no. All right, I'll ride with you again.
Starting point is 01:14:24 I'll take Brooks. I'll take Brooks as well. Who's the favor? Is it Brooks? Or it's probably Bryson. Bryson's on the field, I don't think, is he? So I don't think Bryson's in the field. I believe my pick, Justin Thomas is the favorite.
Starting point is 01:14:37 1,100 to 1 odds. So that's my guy, Justin Thomas. back in the saddle with my guy. Um, roll tied baby. And let's, let's finally get on the board here. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I'm not taking him. I'm not taking Justin Tots because they're Jake on the butt. I'm not taking Justin Tops because he's the favorite. He happens to be the favorite. Fair. How about how about producer Jake is, um, sick,
Starting point is 01:15:01 but not, but apparently not with COVID. Yeah. Where did something? Oh, I didn't know that still. You can just, you can actually just get sick nowadays.
Starting point is 01:15:10 That's something that they don't know. COVID's getting all the headlines. I went to go get tested after all, like when we got back from Minneapolis, because I'd been in Delaware and all the stuff. So I waited a couple days. I got tested. And it was stunning to be inside this, like, clinic. And, like, everyone that walked in was getting tested for COVID.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And, like, one person was like, I'm here for a sore throat. Everyone's like, wow. That was me yesterday. The lady had to ask, like, oh, are you here for COVID testing? or regular, like, medical stuff. Like, are you just here for, like, medical treatment? And the guy's like, yeah, I'm here for just, like, to try and get better. Like, Jonah Hill and 40-year-old virgin.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I just want to get, I just want to get, like, better. I have a cough, and I just want to be okay. Did you get the thing in the nose that everybody gets? Yes. So, the person, I went inside this room, and it was super quick. Like, basically, I waited 15 minutes. I went to this like AFC care. It's called Denise Meadow.
Starting point is 01:16:14 And they have like 20 rapid tests a day. Like you have to make an appointment. It's impossible to get one. And I like, so I made one while we were in like, while we were in Pinehurst, I made one for like two weeks in advance for when I'd get back. And I get there and basically you wait like 10 minutes and everything goes really quick. I walk in the back. And the lady says take down your mask and look down. So I literally just sat down in that little weird chair that they always take the paper down.
Starting point is 01:16:39 It's like you make a lot of noise and you sit in the doctor chair. And I just sat down. She goes, take her mask down. I rolled it down. She was looked down and then she shoved it up. She like stunned me. Like I was like,
Starting point is 01:16:50 I don't have to sign any pay. Like nothing. I didn't have to do anything. I didn't have to tell her any symptoms, nothing. She shoved it to the back of my skull, man. Like tickled my brain. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Her doing that because the anticipation is what kills you. It's the biggest. It's the biggest swab of all time. It's like, it's the size of. of your head and it goes all the way. Oh, God. She does the other one. But honestly, it's not that bad.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Like, it looks bad. And it's just your eyes. It almost knocked my contact out because my eyes are so watery. And I made a noise. I was like, woo. I was like, whoa. Glad you're saying. I hear that so many times.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Glad you're healthy. But yeah, it was, uh, I think everyone should get tested at this point. Can't hurt, right? Like, you should just fucking get the info. Because if you get it and you just know, it just helps. So. Agreed. Nice little public service.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Okay. We're finished here. Everybody enjoy the weekend, the work day. We will be back on Tuesday. A couple bars to a classics between now and then we'll be in L.A. And then we'll be in Denver. And the transfusion is now available in store. So go check that thing out.
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