Fore Play - Shay Mooney, and The Fore Man Scramble Wants To Play The TOUR

Episode Date: June 11, 2020

Shay Mooney (44:50) from Dan + Shay joins the show. Remember the Jonas Brothers story about the Grammys speech bet? We get Shay’s perspective, and the FULL tale. We also hear some great stories from the industry, from Shay’s on-course experiences, and basically become best friends. In From The Gallery, what’s our scramble team’s official world golf ranking, and which professional tournament will be the first to give us a tee time???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. You got Shay Mooney from Dan and Shea on the show. If you recall, where we had the Jonas Brothers on, also mega stars. A few weeks ago, great story about a Grammy's bet. He was playing golf with the Jonas Brothers. So he happens to be a huge golf guy. He happens to be a mega music star, country music.

star he's done stuff with beber with kelly clarkson he's boys obviously with the jonas brothers uh frankie i believe talked to him he said he'd love to come on the show jumped on nicest guy on the planet we all were just saying we're like coming down from a high after conversing with him for an hour straight uh we basically had no outline we just ripped through we were telling golf stories music this guy's the best so shame who he's on the show um again it was just kind of felt like one of those where he was like the fifth mic on the show and we just kind of ripped it. I didn't know if we were going to go 15, 20 minutes. We went for a full hour.

So that's coming up in a few minutes. We've got a lot to get to in terms of the PJ tour is returning. We got some great from the galleries. So it's a big show, gentlemen. Happy, you know, happy Wednesday. Happy PGA tours back. How are you doing? I'm doing well.

Like you said, the Shay interview went so well that I feel like I made a new friend, which is always a good feeling to have. He was so nice and so cool. And he even says at the beginning of the interview, which you're going to hear, that he was nervous to come on the show, which is insane because we were nervous to have a megastar like him on and then turning it around and he said he was nervous.

The whole thing was great. But yeah, I'm excited that golf is going to be back. It's almost like, I almost don't feel like it's happening. Like I'll believe it when I see it, even though I know it's happening. And while people are listening to this, it's probably happening. But we're recording this on Wednesday afternoon, and we haven't had sports in so long that I'm like,

I'll believe it when I see it, but it's very clearly happening. So I'm excited about that. Yeah, I'm feeling great. However, I got, do you think he was actually nervous or that was full sarcasm? That was full sarcasm. No, I think he's actually nervous.

Fully nervous. Oh, wow. I'm totally sarcastic, I thought. He made a couple jokes about that. I thought he was definitely sarcastic. But either way, he was fantastic, and I'm with you on the come down. He was a great guy,

and I believe there was even some love you's drop at the end if I'm not mistaken. So yeah. Yeah, he did. He said, I love you back. And it was, I don't know. I didn't know what else. I mean, that's what you say.

I think when somebody said that. Right. Yeah, he's incredibly normal dude. And, you know, he's just a huge star that he was saying, like, his origin story of him, he's from Dan and he's from Dan and him meeting Dan is like, they were at like a party together. And now they're just multimillionaires selling albums out the asshole and winning Grammys and being friends with the Jonas brothers and collaborating with Justin Bieber.

That's a wild ride. And it's a super. interesting life and he's totally down to earth living in like arkansas and Tennessee and living on a farm when he's in Arkansas and then coming back and golfing a time with Nate Bargatsy and the Jonas brothers he's just like a really cool dude and I'm glad that we got to talk to him it all happened because like he followed me on Instagram one day and I was like what the hell the guy from Dan and Shay just like where did this come from and apparently he's just like a huge four play fan so uh it came out of nowhere like we were trying

to get him on the show for the past couple weeks and he was in Arkansas he says like he had like Walmart-type Wi-Fi where you have to, like, drive hours just to get a connection so he couldn't do it. And I kind of just like let it go. I was like, oh, yeah, well, like, reconnect, like when you get back. And he hit me up yesterday. Like, hey, man, like, I want to come on that show, like, if you guys will have me. I was like tomorrow. And he just was on the show. So I'm really cool guy. I can't wait to golf with him. Frankie, you're two for two on your last trying to book Megastar guests. Like, first you like shot your shot with the Jonas brothers. Didn't think anything was going to come of that. Sure enough, we had him on. And now you've had

Shay Mooney on. That's a pretty good track record. You should just be like a booker. Yeah, we have to keep that streak alive. I can't get like, I can't go out of my limits. I have to now pick, strategically pick my next guess and see if we can go through for three. You can't get, you're going to try to get some fucking nobody on and they're going to like not respond and it's going to just kill your record. Right. No, we've got to keep this going. And I do like the way that like we had the Jones Brothers on. They had a story about Shane Mooney and then we had Shane Mooney on. And then he talked about like Nate Bar Gatsy, that would be a nice third one, which we know he's a big bar stool guest.

He's a common on our airwave. So I feel like that's something that could happen next, which would be a good one. I'm not saying that that's going to be the next guy, but whatever. You know, it wouldn't even be my reach out. Like, you know, KFC's like best friends of Nate Bargatzi at this point. You're really spinning yourself into a web there. No, you never. I could see it coming.

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We just kind of mentioned it very quickly. We talked a lot about it on Tuesday shows. We don't have to get too much into it, but, you know, live coverage, Rory, a bunch of big names are playing. I'm already hearing reports. I just picked out a couple quotes off of Twitter, but this guy Brian Wacker, which is a great name.

He tweeted out multiple caddies and players tell me they're not listening to any of the tort protocols. They're going to eat out. They're going to stay wherever they want, et cetera. I hope everyone stays healthy. And then Daniel Rap report, whose boys with fits. This might just be a fits quote.

Said hearing the same thing. Ask someone on the grounds this week if people were respecting guidelines, social distancing while at the course, et cetera. their response was not really at all. Seems like people were forgetting the virus is still out there. So, you know, we kind of talked a couple months ago about like, wait, is June, you know, 11th, way too early for the PJTor to come back? It'll be interesting to see how everything unfolds. I'm not all that surprised by those quotes because I've seen, and it's just like a microcosm of the real world.

Like I have even seen in New York City, like as soon as you start relaxing a little bit, like we're in phase one now in Manhattan. And so there's construction, a few things are opening up. And it's just people want to get back to normal to the point where, yeah, you want people to be really careful. But as soon as they start interacting, they start seeing each other, I feel like things are going to go back to normal pretty quickly. Whether that's a good or a bad thing, I don't know. But like I said, I'm just not all that surprised by, you know, hearing the caddies talk like

that. Yeah, once you let it out, once you let the cat out of the bag, you're gone. I mean, like, you know, you fill out a pair of sweat pants. Maybe that button's a little tight. As soon as that thing pops, it's tough to get it back on. you know what I mean, Trump? Correct. Fuck, man, that was quite a ricochet shot at me.

Jesus. Takes one to no one, though, right? There we go. Let's pass it around the Zoom. There we go. That's right, Frank. Well, there was a lot of people questioning, again, at the beginning of this whole lockdown thing,

of like, oh, is this going to change the way we live forever? Are we ever going to go back to normal? And it's the second you kind of lift a few restrictions, people go back to normal. You guys noticed it down here in Piner. It's like a little bubble. It's just different. Like people, and obviously it's not anywhere near the severity of the epicenter of being in New York or some of these major cities that have huge, huge outbreaks.

But like down here for the most part, it's like you get here for a day or two, you realize that things are different. Things are way more relaxed. People aren't as uptight about it. And it kind of goes back to normal. And we're seeing that with the PGA tour folks. I assume, you know, at some point it's almost impossible to imagine this wouldn't happen. There'll be a little bit of an outbreak. Somebody will get it.

Somebody's catty will get it. A few players will get it. I imagine they'll just get kicked out of the bubble. They'll have to quarantine for a couple weeks. I think that's kind of the standard protocol. And we'll see how the tour handles it going forward. But hey, Tours back, golf bag. We're overall excited about it.

I've been tracking Tiger's boat along with a few other people on the internet. And I don't really know what to make of it. I feel like it would be very surprising if Tiger's mega yacht, which is called privacy, by the way, which you can track publicly accessible, especially if you download a $499 app on your mobile device or your iPad, that you can just track it. And it would be really awkward or weird, not awkward,

it would be very coincidental if Tiger's yacht just left Southern Florida and started heading up the eastern seaboard towards Hilton Head, South Carolina, where the PJ Tor stop is next week, if he just wasn't playing in that event. I agree. And I don't think it's that creepy at all. It's common knowledge. People, they track flights all time during, like, NHL trade. deadlines and they figure out what's going on.

Like if we can, if there's a way of us seeing where privacy is, then we need to know where privacy is. And somebody's going to do it. So why not us? Like, why not we have the most updated information we can have? Well, you know, I never really gave much thought to Tiger and his yacht life, but just getting on a yacht and just going up the eastern seaboard to a golf tournament. It sounds like the coolest.

It is. It's very funny. It also sounds like the coolest thing ever. He's just on a yacht. He's like, yeah, I got. got to get to this golf tournament pretty soon. And I'm just going to get on this yacht and I'm going to go up the eastern seaboard. It's really amazing.

I just saw a picture of Tiger and I don't know if it's from now or when it was taken, but he's sitting on the back of his boat it looks like with his shirt off fishing and just like a little like bowl in the water. I mean, incredible. Yeah. You know, in the best part, right, like Kisner flew commercial down to fucking colonial. And like he's got to get on this little charter flight that they're doing to get to next tournament and then they got to do a charter flight to the next tournament and they're supposed

to stay in some bubble and they're supposed to be fucking surrounded by hazmat suits so that like they're kind of like they're they're like almost being treated like the zoo animals and everyone's like pointing in the cage and like dance and do all this stuff for us and tiger is coming in on his own fucking mega yacht up the eastern seaboard that is such a large ship and vessel that like it has to be registered to be tracked by people publicly on the internet like that's just the his way of experiencing this fucking tournament, RBC Heritage next week at Hilton Head, if he plays in it,

is hilarious. And we talked about it. You know, anybody that's calling it like creepy, when they had the U.S. Open at Chinocock, everyone's like, oh,

Tiger's yachts going to be docked at this place. When he goes and plays a practice round at Augusta National, everyone's like, oh, his private jet landed at the Augusta private airport. Like Frankie said, people get tracked all the time when they go to visit, you know,

a coaching staff or they go to train somewhere because it's trade deadline or it's free agency. It's no different. I'm just tracking Tiger's gigantic vessel. We all are. And it appears to be making its way up the eastern seaboard from his home in Florida towards the next stop on the PGA tour. But he's going to take his sweet time. Apparently it's stopping right near Sea Island, Georgia, where there's some great golf. You might stop there for a couple days.

Play a couple rounds. The next thing you know, Tiger arrives at Hilton Head and just steps off his ship onto the dock and plays a golf tournament, gets back on his ship and goes home. And I'm very excited about that. Does he, would he be doing this in a non-coronavirus world? Or is this specifically to stay quarantine? I guess I hadn't, like, does he do this all the time and we just hadn't known about it? But now since quarantine such a thing, we're trying to track it?

Or is this a new thing? That's a good question. I, you know, I don't even know that he's on this ship. I would be surprised if he is. Like, I think that if your Tiger can quarantine, right? he can just take his private, he can get it in his, in his private vehicle,

he can drive to his private airport, you can get in his private jet, it can fly to his next private airport and get, you know, and just do that the whole time. The only time he's not quarantined is if he has to like, you know, fist bump kids on the first tee at the RBC heritage or something,

but other than that, he's pretty quarantined. This one, I mean, it could be close enough that he's just like, yeah, I'll just go up the, you know,

we'll hop on the boat, we'll go for it. He likes fish and all that stuff on the way. But I don't know. I think like when he was, when he was at Shinnock, I think he just flies in, gets off, goes and takes a car to his jet, but I don't know, it's a life I'll never be familiar with. It's so much funnier to think of him on there all the time.

And then that's how I will be thinking about it. You make such a good point about the private jet, which is 100% what he's probably doing. But I like it so much more if he's just on that yacht, just like making my way to this next tournament. It would be like, why would he take a 48-hour trip up to, you know, Hilton had we could take an hour long trip on his PJ. Like, I don't know. I don't know that he would do that. But unless he's, you know, pretty into it, if the kids and the girlfriend and everybody's like, yeah, let's go, let's just go jump on the boat, the yacht and do it.

I mean, that sounds like a great time. So who the fuck knows? I mean, I guess he could have, you know, there's got a simulator on there. I bet you that boat is so sick. But, I mean, I bet you, I think he's on the boat and then he'll fly out of there. And the boat will do what it pleases on the way back. Speaking of simulators, I just got a DM that Knives Creek once I finish it will actually be available within simulators.

Like whatever system they use in this, you can actually play it in simulators. Now, that may be a Frankie Fack because I can just write a DM. But if that's a fact. No, I think you're right. Yeah. I think it gets into this like simulator world. Can you, we were talking about it off air, but can you give the people an update on what you've gotten yourself into with Knives Creek?

So Knives Creek, currently I have the golf club 2019 featuring the PJ Tour up on my screen. As far as I've gotten so far, is typing in the name Knives Creek, and I'm trying to pick out a terrain, a layout. You can go to the Swiss Alps, which I've actually dabbled with because I thought that that layout was nicer. But then every single shot, you see these huge mountains. I don't want a mountain course as my first one. Maybe that's going to be one of my passion projects when I'm done and I want to retire into a cabin. I'll build a golf course up in the Alps. But for right now, I'm trying to choose between like the foliage.

Do I want like an autumn style New York? Like, do I want like a September New York golf course or do I want that rustic feel? I don't know. I'm deciding that. But the main thing is I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos on how to build these golf courses in the golf club and in the future 2K video, which I'm sure will have actually more capabilities. But I'm doing it right now in the golf club 2019. And there's ways in which you can, like, set all your preset information.

You can put it into 18 holes. You can say I want, like, 80% fairway bunkers, 20% green side bunkers. I want four par fives, four par threes, fill the rest out with par fours. I want all blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it sets it out for you, but it's a super boring layout. It's just like whole green, whole green. And then you, like, add in your own stuff on your own. But it's also harder to, like, sculpt the way you want it to look.

It's not, like, genuine. So I watched this YouTube channel, which, like, I don't know, I should, I guess I should give the guy a shout out because he does. This dude's put in the fucking work, man. He's got like 27 episodes or some crazy shit like this on how to build the, on how to build these fucking golf courses in this designer thing. It's this guy crazy Canuck, 1985. He's a crazy person. And he's, like, figured out how way how to, like, actually build it like an architect. He wipes out all those preset things, and he goes in with just a lot of land.

So he says, like, I want like 80% trees, water level at 20, whatever I need. And then he goes through the trees. It's just a huge lot of just grass and trees. And he finds out where's the perfect position. Watch this guy on YouTube. He finds out where it's the perfect position for him to put his first green. And he sets that little marker there, and then he starts building out. Whole one.

He has just like these markers. And he goes back to the green. He levels it out. It's a fucking job, man. This guy's like logged 40,000 hours worth of fucking architectural work. And I'm like thinking I'm going to build this world-class golf course in one day. He's got to outsource it. I think you've got to outsource it.

There's no way you're going to have time to build this golf course. I think I'm going to be able to do it. But if you guys let me build this by the time 2K comes out in August, I think I build a golf course by August. Two months from now? Yeah. I don't want you to outsource it. I want you to do all the work.

And like there's been like talks about, do people want me to stream, like, when I'm working on a hole? Like, would you guys want to see the process on what I'm thinking of? Like, we can do that. We can do, like, nightly streams of me, like, building Nias Creek. But then also, like, the surprise goes away of, like, what the golf course is going to look. Like, I wanted kind of a ribbon-cutting ceremony at Nias Creek. My biggest thing is, like, when you raise the ground, it just goes up in this little area.

And no matter how big you make the circle or the brush, it's very hard to build what I want, which is a very high clubhouse and first-year. T like Bethpage Black. I need to build my base first. I need to figure out where I'm building my base and then have the golf course come to it. The way this guy did it was he started with the green. I may have to start with the T, first T. First T, high up in the air, we're going down the hill to the right. First hole is going to be almost identically similar to Beth Pade Black. Maybe a creek runs through the fairway to stop you from hitting a long drive, right? Like a lot of people at Bethpage like to cut the corner with that huge bomb shot like Rory will go over the trees. I may eliminate that

by putting a little Knive Creek across the fairway. That goes across maybe one and two and then goes down. You don't see it until like 14, 15, 16 again. So we'll see. I don't know. I have a lot of plans. I'm smiling. I'm giddy.

It's a new baby. It's a new passion of mine, but I can't get there. You know, as the sun's coming out, I'm fucking tanning now. I'm getting burnt. I'm putting on aloe. I'm putting on after sun. I'm trying to not get pasty. You guys see that Instagram that Barstle put up of that dude in the pool?

Yes. that's who I don't want to be anymore, right? Like that guy, I've been that guy. I've shown up to parties and taking my top off and people go, like, oh, who turned the lights on? All those fucking dumb jokes that people say. Like, I hate that shit. Like, yeah, it's just my body.

I don't know. Like, I'm just white. Yeah, I don't know. It's just my skin. So I'm trying slowly to get like tan. And it's like, it's red still, but it's getting there. Yeah. Yeah, it look better.

You got a little color to you. I'm definitely better. I don't know you're capable of it either. The point is, I didn't know I was capable of it either. The point, I do go to sleep crying at night with my back is burnt. The point is, is that it's going to take, yeah, it's going to take a lot of work. It's going to take a lot of work. This dude plants his fucking trees after, like, he goes, oh, we're going to take all the,

all the sliders off on the plants because we want to plant those. Like, what? On 18 holes, you're going to put every single little fucking bush there and little, you've got to put the cart path and make sure the cart path isn't on an angle because the carts are going to fall. That's the other thing I was telling you guys. When you put the pin in, it just goes side. You got to make sure the green is flat. It's crazy.

Dude, I'm watching a YouTube video right now of what this takes to build a golf course. You're going to be doing this for a year. Dude, August, if you get it done by August, it'd be a tremendous feat what I'm looking at here. Because if you tell me it's taking you two days to pick links or forest or whatever, like, kind of like looking. Thanksgiving. I'm going to say Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving's a good guess. I think.

Yeah. That's why if I stream a couple. maybe I stream like once a week, like progress on it. Like, and then people will, like, that will force me to do it, right? Like, and it will force me to make decisions. Like, I'm very anal with that stuff. I'm going to sit there and make sure the green has a perfect runoff. But, like, I have to just get it done.

And then the other question is, do I do it with the presets and just have a boring golf course? Yeah, because I saw the preset. I think you almost have to do the preset based on what you're talking about. Like, because then at least gives you some starting, like, and then you can move it around. You can tailor it. can probably still change around the greens. At least it clears out the trees needed to build some sort of golf course. You're going to be doing this forever.

I thought I wanted to build a golf course. Now I don't know if I want to. I think I want three to fall. I'm building the golf course from scratch. I've made the decision. I'm going to start with green one. I'm going to morph it around. All I have to figure out.

And I know people have messaged me. One guy made a PowerPoint slideshow for me. Well, do's and don'ts on how to sculpt the land. And he wrote like, do not and do and all this stuff. Dude, there's a part where, like, you have to go down to, like, reach the water level and the water rises and fills up. It's, it's fucking crazy. It's real. Sounds like it's just real.

Like, there's no shortcut. There's no, there's no cartoon aspect to it. It's like, it's just like playing the fucking game. Like, the whole beauty of, like, Tiger Woods a little bit was that it was a little bit preposterous. Like, I can hammer the A button, hammer the direction, and I could spin the ball like 30 fucking yards to the left. And there was a cartoon aspect to it. It's the same issue with that fucking game when you're trying to play it is that it's too real. If I wanted to go suck at golf, hit it sideways, play Army golf, left, right, left, right.

And I would go play real golf. But the problem with the game is this is too fucking real. Give me a little bit of, like, give me a little bit of fantasy, man. I need a little fantasy. And they want me to be like. Frankie's apartment that night when you, when you had a fit. Traumatizing. They want me to be like a, they want me to be Pete Dye or like, or Bill corn and shit.

Like, I got to be out there with a fucking tractor. trailer legitimately taking away trees. This guy looks down and looks at the, like he envisions what that second shot is going to be. And he, and he shapes the trees in that fashion. I'm also looking at once you build the hole or whatever, you can then just play that hole to test that. Correct.

Oh, my God. It's a lot of fun. There's no way you're going to be done by Thanksgiving. This is a whole project. I want a golf course that has undulations, it has turns, but also, it's got those it's got that nice i i want a mix between florida and new york golf i want those greens that have the runoff into the water so it's almost like a crescent moon of water around the green but on the right side is that like landing area that goes up the green you know what i'm talking about

i love holes like runoff and chip off and stuff yeah like um like the fourth hole at beth page to the right of it to the right on that massive par five you can hit that right side and go over that bunker and you have that huge little landing area that people will hit instead of going for the green i like that shit but on the left you have water like i want a lot of like you know what shots that make you fucking think about it hold your nuts on the second shot your course you're going out on thanksgiving the first six holes are going to be detailed immaculate frankie the last 12 are going to be the most generic auto generating farmland course up and back up and back whatever that like you when you simulate a season on on madden like that's the equivalent of what it's going to be like

Yeah. I don't know. And I wish it could out. I wish I could get like a whole little crew of people like taking down trees and shit. But I don't know that you can. I think it's very just. Little minions going into your course and cutting down trees. Just a whole little team.

Budget out hiring a squad or we're a crew and get the whole course in shape. So Thanksgiving. I'm going to say Thanksgiving. We're going to build this golf course and we're going to have a tournament on it. And that's a fact. All right. Like that is my promise to the people. I'm not going to promise you when it's happening.

it's a lot of work. You can't, you don't rush Michelangelo. You don't rush, you don't rush, think of another one. Pablo Picasso. You don't, you don't rush Bill Corp and Pete Die and all these fucking guys. You just let them do their work. You let them take out their scaffolds. And is that a word?

No, that's- Scalple. Question though, Frankie, will you be able to move this course from golf club to 2K? That is a question in which we need to figure out, because right now I'm looking at my screen. import legacy course is an option on the golf club 2019 which allows you to import your course from the golf club too so i'm assuming that they'll have the golf club allowing this to go into it we'll see i don't know i'll ask that before i start the first hole you know you know what else you need to just kind of let do its thing and do its work what tell me or is and else no fuck scott's turf builder triple action

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you got this. Okay. Jack asks, as a four-man scramble now, what do you think y'all's world golf ranking is? An interesting question. I mean, we beat Kizner is 36, right? Yes. Now, I started thinking about this, like,

if you ran the Kisner match back, you know, a hundred times or we're playing a tournament, like would we have been better than Kiz, you know, more than half the time? how timely were we some of the shots that we hit like are those were those higher percentage than normal or like lower percentage than normal we kind of like over delivered um so that is the basis to go off of like i would say we're probably around we're probably around like the 30 or 40th ranked player i think we're i think we're a top 20 player in the world

think so yeah because i think when we start playing shorter golf courses um i mean we're start going seven, eight under. I mean, we're going to be an absolute force out there,

no? Yeah, like when we play a little bit easier like we had one ball and play a lot. I think top 20

is outrageous. Who's 20? We did. Shane Lowry is 20th, a major winner. We can win a major for sure.

We're better than Shane Lowry. We could win a major for sure. I fucking I fucking wish we'll to the world where they would just let us do it.

Like, let us play one, like, let us play the John Deere Classic. I swear to God. Holy shit. We always say that should be the experimenting ground for new things in the sport. They should let us play in the John Deer Classic. That would be. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we'll play it in the morning or after when we're totally out of the way.

We'll play that golf course the same way they play. Do we win the tournament? I think so. I don't think we should just be at the tournament. We're just like, I agree. I agree. I didn't agree with like they have to, they shove us into a corner and they hide us from the public.

No, we're just there. I think we show up. We have an 845 T time and we're playing against, uh, we're with like Luke List. Yes. And like Kevin Nah and four,

four play. That's like the group. We would have to imagine how long it would take. Right. That's the problem because when we play with Kisner, one of his main grites was like, no, he was wrong, dude.

We were waiting on the group in front of us a bunch. Right, true. We're still taking four shots every time. We were just around four hours, right? I don't think it's longer. I genuinely don't think it's longer. I think if you put us in a PJ tournament, we legitimately would not be holding up anybody.

I think our pace of play would be faster than a lot of guys. And with the marshals and stuff, picking up the extra balls, like you constantly have people picking up the extra balls. We don't have a pre-shot routine. We just step up and whack it. Like, we're not. We absolutely keep up with the pace.

And we didn't even have to read the greens. Like the first guy puts it, and we just know the read after that. Should we put together a time trial so John Deer can put us in? We'll do a time trial round. I think if there's like, I don't know, like the corn fairy tour, if someone wants to give us a shot and get some eyeballs on your tournament, you should allow this to happen.

You guys let Steph Curry play over people that quote unquote deserve it, right? Romo. You have Romo. So like, why not let someone that's going to bring so much social interaction to your golf tournament? Like, this is a call to anyone that's in meetings about how they need to get their interactions up and all their views up and how are we going to get all this money back into our sport when we've just been off for six months or whatever it's been. And we need to get the world back. Bring the foreplay guys and have the social media absolute storm come to your front doorstep and have people go crazy about your shitty little tournament that now is going to be the biggest event in the world on Twitter. Like it would be, if we were legitimately on it in a tournament, it would be the biggest tournament in the world that we could.

We'll play, we'll play like an amateur. Like, we're not eligible for prizes. Correct. We can't win the prize pool. And like, we're almost like in the pro-ams and stuff where there's like a separate side thing. It's like, like, no, we're in the tournament, but like we're not eligible to win anything. And we just see where we fall after the whole thing. And we're going to show up on the range.

a little, we'll have a little plaque thing that says like four plays, this is four play spot on the range. And like, we'll tee off. We'll be very, we know golf etiquette, the rule book, we'll have a caddy and that's like what we do. We're just in the tournament. Oh my God. That would be so great.

Come on, somebody do it. Reach out to us and let's do it. I think we would win of corn fair tour tournament. I think we'd win. That's, uh, you know, that's a challenge to the corn fairy tour. Bring us out. We dare you. Man, imagine how nerve rack.

I can, that would be a fucking, like, oh, it really, it really comes down to you and you've got a big swing and the other, like, three balls are in tough shape. And it's like, oh, man, we're on TV. There's fans. Now, this is the negative side of it. And, you know, this is going to have to be accounted for. How many people do we hit? I mean, balls are like, we don't hit, you know, like, if the fairways are lying with people, we've got an issue. We've got.

We're talking corn ferry tour. there's probably more people at our event in Pinehurst and there will be at a corned ferry tour. That's a fact. Yeah, some of them for sure. Yeah, for sure. And also, like, put, like, the John Deere, classic, if you put us on in the morning, like,

with not a big player, right? Like, there's no chance. There was legitimately more people at our event and Pioneers than there will be at, like, when you go to, like, the heritage, like, and you just stumble upon fucking Zach Johnson, there's, like, five people following him. So, like, I mean, it won't be that big of a deal. Just getting killed.

Wow. I think this has to happen, man. I don't think we're top 20, but I think we're safely in the 30s. Let us prove, let us prove like our worth. Just give us a full season. Let us come out there. That's our job for a PJ tour season. We're at every stop.

We're at every stop. Now I'm getting greedy. That's bringing golf to the 21st century. That's like allowing these people that like want to see the average everyday golf for how they match up. If you compare, everyone plays in scrambles and everyone loves the competition of scrambles

at their local country club and at their local, like you sign up for your local bars, golf batting and you play in a scramble with your buddies. Now you get to see four fucking hacks play against the PGA tour and how they would do. And then as a fan,

you can go out and play as a scramble and see if you could beat our score. It's a no-brainer. Let me get to a meeting room. I will talk to a head of a company and be like, all you assholes, Just like I taught little Bob Harrog and Jeff Shackleford on how to come into our world, old

hugsy. I had a phone conversation with Bob Herrick, by the way. Just, yeah, great. Just like we gave them a lesson on how to enter the 21st century, I'm going to teach you old hags wearing your fucking suits and your powdering your wigs on how to bring golf to the new age. And you know how you bring the golf to the new age is let me smack balls into the fucking trees and Trent hit bombs off the fucking fairway.

and we just win these golf tournaments. I got a question for you. If we play 30 tournaments, do we miss any cuts? And if we do, how many do we miss? I think we miss at least four cuts. Yeah, I think we show up days where, like, right, Lurch just isn't hitting his irons and, like, Frankie's not getting off the T. And, like, we, and my short game's horrible.

Trent's not hitting his baby cuts down the middle, and we're like, we're eight over nine. That's a quiet trip back to the airport. Boy, we missed the color. And we're just all sitting there like, boy, we had four shots on every try. And we could imagine us in the media center after. They're like, all right, what did you guys hit on like seven? We're like, wow, you know.

So I saw Trent topped one. So I don't know. I just tried a seven iron. And then Frankie just grabs the mic from across the room. He's like, well, I just try to blitz a hybrid out of them. Would we have to all, like, dress the same? Yes. Yeah, sure.

I think so. Same. 100%. Everything's the same. so we look pretty much the same. So it's like the one person, right. If we don't hear from a tournament director within the next week, you're all cowards.

And honestly, I won't rest until we do. Like, it's a no-brainer in content. It's a no-brainer. Let me ask you this. Would you think it'd still be kosher? Let's say the first tee times at, like, 8 a.m. If they're like, all right, you guys go off at 7 and, like, stay out of the way, and you have to play fast.

We're kicking you off the course. Yes, I think you. It's fine. It's 100% fine. There's like, we're not going to be in the middle of the field. Like, let's be realistic about this. They're not showing. We have like a morning tea type Thursday and an afternoon tea time Friday.

I want to be in the final pairing on Sunday. I want to be out there. Like, this is it. We put ourselves in this position. That's what we're supposed to be. No, if they were like, you have to play a little bit earlier to be involved, then yes. We will do anything we have to do. If our playing partner hit like a hole in one and they have to show that shot in the highlights

and then the four of us bimbos are just behind them, like, yeah. that's fucking God. Frankie's right. If we don't hear from anybody, this whole sport is fuck. Just so fuck, man. Like, that is so fun and such a good engagement idea.

And, like, you could get so many people that would never watch your tournament. And what are you going to say? You don't want those people to watch your tournament? You would get thousands upon thousands of people interested in your tournament that no one would have cared about to begin with

if you would let four schmose play a spring. as a one slot in your tournament. That is so perfect to me. How many... Sponsors' exemption, four-plice. How many people get so mad? Can you imagine that... We'll read your fucking ads.

Sponsors' exemption. We'll read your ads. Give it to them. Give it to us. We'll do it. Boy, people would be up in arms like, yeah, ma-mah, see, they should be out there, see.

It would also be like we'd have the Bargstool main account and, like, the fan-play account, like, live, live Instagramming it and, like, it'd be, the eyeballs would be off-re- the charts. Off the charts. We could do a whole deal where like maybe we should like, we use the cameras from there and they show it like live on like our website, people watching it and they're like we like push to like

their social media or whatever. It would be it's it's a home run. Like if you're not a suit right now trying to figure out how you're going to do this and you're not thinking about this already, then shame on you. Shame on you that we had to come up with this idea. And I think we're just bad and just good enough that like it could go either way. Right. we could miss the gut or we could win the tournament.

Right. We may have to weaponize our social media to force the PGA tour or the Corn Ferry Tour to all our fans constantly. How this usually works is it's not the guys making the decisions who hear this and are like, we're going to come up with this ideas. It's the people, it's the younger people who are listening to this show. And then they go to their bosses with these ideas. So you're those people listening right now.

go to your bosses and be like, hey, these guys have a fucking fantastic idea. You've already let Dave Portnoy. We'll do the pitch for you, young guy out there. You've already let Dave Portnoy play the U.S. Open and win it, and they said that they're going to put them on like a, if you want it. They're going to make a trophy for them and shit. Like, you're already there, right? And that was a USGA.

Like, let's figure out how we can do this. If the U.S.J. is not going to let us do it, which I'm not saying they're not, because they're awesome. If you're any sort of tournament director, you have to get us involved. I'll play in a MET PGA event if I have to in New York against like little kids and we'll dominate them. I'm a little worried. Could you imagine us leaving the driving range

and rubbing shoulders with like Matsuyama walking by and just like us going to the first week? Imagine if he's like good luck. He's like good luck today, boys. We have to share the same spot at the driving range. We can't get four so we're like alternating practice. One meeting a spot. One. We're one person.

That's it. We're one person. We are, we are, exactly. We'll learn for you, do we only get one meal? Do we only get one meal in there? We all, we get a. Orch is going to die. Birch is out.

He quit. He just quit. For some reason, I'm picturing us on like a quad bicycle arriving. Sure. Sure. Arriving to the golf course. He's so out of place that every moment would be must-see. Right.

Exactly. I love it. It's a win. It's a win. It is a win. Riggs, do you... Oh, go ahead. We will have some three puts on... Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. I mean, we'll have some Ms. Greens. We'll have some bad drives. We'll be in trouble. Riggs, was there anything you wanted to say from the Bob Herrick call, or do you want to get into that at all?

Oh, yeah, I do. I kind of... You know what? I think I had the call on, like, a Thursday or Friday, and we didn't record until the following Tuesday, so I just forgot about it. But Bob Herrick reached out to me and said, hey, Riggs, I think you would have... I should have a conversation. I said, absolutely. So he called me one afternoon. It was like maybe a Friday or Saturday afternoon while he was at his kids like soccer game, I believe. And we just had a conversation about everything that happened. We both sort of, you know, acknowledge maybe where like, hey, we went a little too far there. And he handled it, I think, about as stand up and professionally as you could handle it. And he just said, you know, this is kind of where I'm coming from. And, you know, and I probably lashed out a little bit here. And we just kind of talked about the

business and about everything that went down and he was incredibly classy about it and he sent me some nice notes about it since and said, you know, I think we should live in a world or we can all just kind of bust each other's balls on Twitter and have a good time with it. And he handled it in a very stand-up way. So I would like to shout out Bob Harris. I thought that was a really classy move. Good. Very good. He should just come on the show. We should shoot the shit that way. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. We should. Yeah, we probably talked for 15, 20 minutes. And like I said, it went really well. He sent me a couple kind of, you know, funny little comments ever since.

So, so credit the- I'm not going to be 100% nice to him just because he's like, you know, he's going to have to win me over. Like, Bob Harry's going to have to come on the show. And, like, he'll probably win me over from the first second. But, like, I hold grudges for sure. That's one of the tougher ones to hold the win over. Right.

But, like, I'm already, like, I'm the biggest Shay Moody fan of all time. Like, there's no one bigger than me right now. Nice teaser because, Next up is Shay Mooney. He is awesome. I think, I don't know. I can't envision that like a first time interaction with someone like him could have gone any better than this hour-long chat with. He's just one of the boys.

Like I actually had a more comfortable relaxing conversation with him than I do with some of my friends. The way he was just like laying back and telling stories and laughing. He was like, he was like nervously giggling at one point, like to see if like we would laugh at one of his jokes. like he actually has that like Nate Bargatsy type of humor too or like he's very very funny. Yep. He is. He's a hilarious guy, big golfer. He's boys with the Jonas brothers as you guys know.

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There we go. What's up, dude? How are you guys? I'm good. I'll look, okay. I'm so nervous. You're nervous for us. What are you kidding?

What the fuck? Do you mean you're nervous? I'm sweating in my non-air-conditioned room right now. Like, y'all am the ones to be nervous. Trying to build a video game course. I haven't showered in like in two weeks and I showered for you guys. So this is a pretty, things are really heating up here. You just show.

Howard for the Zoom podcast? Yeah, I did. I'm not sure why. Like I put on pants and stuff, which is unnecessary. I got on the shoes, which is weird. I don't know why I did that. That's great. You are nervous.

Why are you nervous? I'm not really nervous. I'm nervous that my little boy's going to wake up from his nap. We got like a little, yeah, we got like 20 minutes before all hell breaks loose and he comes up here like that. I don't know what you think you're doing up here, but things are, things are not going well down here, so I need you. But no, it's going good, man.

I did see that, by the way. Frank, are you building a course actually on... On the golf club. I'm, like, trying to... Right now, I've just picked out, like, my theme. So, you can do desert. You can do, like, autumn. You can do highlands.

You can do any of these different versions. I picked rustic right now. I'm trying to... I'm trying to see what, like, style I want. It's, dude, I was telling them... It's actually incredible how hard it is. Like, I have this land that you have to now, like, go through and see where you want to...

put the first green and then you start from there and you build outwards and like even when you build the green you have to take trees out and like let's say you stick the pin in the pin sideways you have to flatten the land you're legitimately building the golf course yeah i have i've been playing actually i have golf club uh i think i think that's one i've been playing are you good at it i find it like impossible it's pretty hard i got pretty good at it i get obsessed with things so like i played it for probably like a month straight and i got like pretty good at it like and and i hated it too because I'd go real golf and I was like this is this doesn't make any sense like right I've been I've been getting pretty good on golf club it doesn't seem to be translating no joke the last

time I played the game I suck so bad I threw a fit at Frankie's apartment and just walked out of his apartment I hate how golf can do that on video games as well like it it's so calming and like the people are like back they're like oh this is and he feels so calm you know and then just like you just want to break your TV it's devastating uh well let's just hop right in I mean I don't know Do you know who we are? We got, I'm Riggs, Frankie, Trent, Lurch. Oh, yeah. I've made a, I actually have you guys a custom wallpaper in my rim of your all's faces.

I'm pretty big fan, pretty big fan. I won't show you my tattoo yet, but I'll show you guys to that later. We'll get there. I feel like this conversation, yeah, it'll get us there. So look, you're, you're, you guys, Dan and Shay, you guys are mega stars. You're winning awards. You got hundreds of millions of streams all over. Spotify and you just jump on with us and you're like, I'm nervous to chat. How can that be a thing?

How can that be possible? I would rather play for 50 million people than like the four people that I kind of, you know, you care about their opinion more like your family or like anyone who you kind of, you feel like you know, like I've followed you guys. You guys are awesome, a big fan. But it is funny how you just, you think about everything. I'd really, I'd really rather play for like thousands of people than, you know, the one person that you really value their opinion. that you're going to talk to face to face. Like you can't see like the 20,000 people that are in the back of the room. Like, you know, but you can, I can see you guys real well.

I can see you real well. How do you like stumble on us just being like a golf guy, being a golf fan? Yeah, dude. I mean, I, I'm always on Instagram and kind of looking like, you know like what you're obsessed with by going on your own Instagram page. Like it'll be popping up. You know, usually. It knows you better than anything in the world.

It knows you better than anything in the world. And like all I can see online is like all of these, how to get, how to not suck at golf, you know? And that's a lot of mine. It's not like, oh, these great shots. It's like you, we can tell that you aren't good at this game. We must have popped up when it was like, hey, here's a bunch of terrible golfers, just like you.

Don't feel so bad about yourself. Look at these guys. You think you're bad. You should check these guys. You're really going to have a lot in common with these guys. So a couple weeks ago, we got the Jonas brothers on. Nick Jonas is telling these stories, these different golf stories and kind of, you know, being in the biz and different buddies.

And he tells this story about a speech and about you. And so then it just worked out where Frankie's like, I think Shay wants to come on the show. So like, how true is this story? Did he like dog himself, you? Like, how true is this story? Dude, it's very true. It was one of the weirdest, like, it's just one of those things where like,

I can't imagine. I didn't talk about it for probably like, I don't know, you know, two months. Like until you guys, they told the story, with you guys. We hadn't told, like, anyone that had happened. Like, there was just a lot of people on Twitter, like, I'm pretty sure he just thanked Joseph Jonas for some weird reason. And, like, that must be like, that's a weird coincidence. That must be like one of their producers' names. Like, you know, like, I also love that, like, I think that they, like, whatever I was thanking them, this is the long way around this story. But I, before I forget, right whenever I said, I'd like to

thank Joseph Jonas. They, like, pan over to Smokey Robinson. Like, I don't know why. Like, it was like, Oh, and he knows. They're all good friends, like him and Smokey. And, like, he gets this story. That's where we're going on it. I've always wondered why they kind of just, like, zimmed in on him after I said Joseph Jonas. Like, that was Joseph Jonas.

Like, that's, that's actually Joseph Jonas. He was one of their, he was one of their producers. But anyways, so this story, it started. We actually went on a golf trip to Scottsdale National. And so this was, I haven't been on a ton of golf trips, you know. I mean, I have two kids now going on golf trips. isn't one of those things like, hey, I'll be back in like two weeks, babe. I'm going to go out of a golf trip, a quick.

Right. And so this was one of those times that Nick and Joe, they have, you know, they're obviously, you know, some of the biggest stars in the world. And they're also just like the sweetest human beings ever. And they will ask like real casually, like for us to go on these trips. Like, hey, man, I'm going to head out to the Hamptons. Like, do you guys want to join? I'm sitting there, like, at my family's farm, like scoop and poop or something.

Like, oh, man, I would make it, but I can't make it today. but they uh it's it's awesome like they'll you know invite me on his like random trip so he uh texted me one day and he was like hey man i'm gonna put together this golf trip uh going to scottstale national you know if you like to join and i was like dude that would be amazing you know but i was like i had just gotten back from a trip and i was like i don't think that my wife's going to go for this she's very cool with me you know going to doing things but like i just got back from this trip so i told her i was like yeah like you know nick just invited me this trip and she was like you should go you should definitely go so things are heating up in our marriage uh things are going to

now ever since she'll have been going on that trip so we head out to you know scottstall national and this was like the week before the grammies right this was uh i can't remember the date because i i've lost all track of time during quarantine but uh it was sometime toward the beginning of the year when the world still was awesome and uh anyway so we we like get out to scotsdale national and it's me and uh and joe and nick and his manager philly mac and a couple of guys and so we we go on this golf trip we're there for like three days. I think we played like 98 holes of golf. Like it was just so much golf. Like we were doing night golf and things. And so we, I think it was the first night we were there was the night of the, it was a big fight. It was cowboy and McGregor, I think. I think that was the fight. That was

happening. And so we get there and we had golfed all day long. I think we played like two 18 holes of golf. And so that night they're like, yeah, we're going to play, you know, a night golf on the dirty little nine. I'm sure you guys are probably heard of that. It's like the little par three nine hole that they have there at Scottsdale National. And so it's all this like ridiculous, I mean, it's most ridiculous little course I've ever seen. I mean, there's like 30 foot drops down like sand. Like it's not even a real golf course. Like you have to take a lift up to the green. Like you can't even walk there. It's like outrageous. So we're sitting there. And what they didn't mention too, this is a pretty funny little tidbit. I think this was also like on the last

hole, like one of the last holes that we were playing. And so he tells me, he's like, hey, by the way, like, Phil's going to meet us up here, you know, and we're going to watch the fight. We're going to, you know, finish this game and go watch the fight with him. And I'm sitting there, like, Philly Mac is their manager. And he'd been golfing with us all day long. And he's standing like, maybe 10 feet away. And I was like, yeah, he's right there, you know, like, what are you talking about? And he's, I thought he was making a joke. And he was like, yeah, like, Dr. Phil. And I was like, oh, got it. Dr. Phil. And I thought he was kidding.

I was like, you know, and I mean, no sooner than he said that I hear like, hey, boys. And I look like, Dr. Phil is there. And I'm like, this can't be like, I'm sitting here first of all. I mean, this is all still, no matter how like, you know, how big that you get as an artist and how many cool things do you, there are moments where you're just like, this is one of the more ridiculous things that's ever happened to me. I'm sitting here with the Jonas brothers and Dr. Phil is here. Is this kind of like, is this for real life right now? And so anyways, that happened, and we ended up watching the fight with him. So he was around.

That just makes the story just more hilarious in my mind. So, yeah, we get up there in this par three, and it was like the last, the last hole. And Nick is like, let's make this one interesting. You know, we've been hanging out there all day. I can't even, it's not, I'm not in like the greatest shape of my life right now. We just played two 18 holes of golf. Like, I'm barely swinging the club. Like things aren't, I'm trying different thing.

I'm like side saddling it. Like, maybe that'll get it there. I don't know. So he's sitting there like, all right, let's, let's do a little bit. And if, you know, and you guys, you know, they told a story. If you land it and I land it vice versa, like, you guys have to, you guys have to thank, you know, thank each other, whatever. So whoever landed the green. So I'm like, this is impossible.

Like, nobody had hit the green all day long. Like things were not going. Everyone was pretty well. We've been having a good time. You know, things have been going on. Oh, yeah. Dr. Phil's there. You've got to have a good time.

Dr. Phil is there. And we were under supervision. It's very important. You know, you got to drink responsibly. Things are, they're pretty big stars. They have just bigger doctors. that come out and do those things. But anyway, so it's sitting there.

And I'm like, there's no way, like, you know, anyone's going to hit the green. So sure enough, he lands it like, I mean, it was like a foot and a half from the hole, maybe even close to that. It was like almost the whole and one. I couldn't believe it. I was like, this is the most, of course he would. Like, he looks like that and he'd golf. Like, what an idiot.

I hate that guy. So attractive and like just get a golf. Yeah. We'll get into that later. He's a real piece of crap of how nice he is. He's just such a good guy. Nick, on the other hand, we'll get. he's not as nice of a guy.

They're like the sweetest guys in the while. They're going to take that one clip and be like, Shay Mooney of Dan. Oh, yeah. That's a headline graph. Yeah. What happens next? We'll blow your mind.

We're going to do that. That's a word. I actually have our tabloid person online right now because sheeemone is trashing Nick Jonas. You won't believe what he said. Burning pictures of them. He hates that guy. So anyways, so we get to this, you know, fast forward to Graham and I,

this was. I wasn't worried about it either, by the way, because every year, they kind of switch back and forth of like what's actually on the show. So our award that we were up for that we had won the previous year, we had won our first Grammy the last year. And it was like up for that same award. It was not on TV. Like it was going to be to have a pre-telecast before the actual show. So you go there and there's like this separate building right by the Staple Center, I think it is, or wherever at the forum, wherever the, Gravy's is, I think it's Stable Center. So right next door to that is like this little theater.

And so there's, you know, there's people in there. There's quite a few people in there for like this telecast, but it's not, you know, actually on the show. Like they record it and everything, but it's not on the actual telecast. So I'm thinking like, you know, whatever. Like, I'm not going to have to thank Joe. Like no one's going to see this, you know. Like it'll be recorded. It'll be a funny story for like later. And so, you know, that morning we get a call and they're like, hey, guys, this is, this is awesome. They're like, you guys actually are going to be on the show now the telecast they've switched to your award you guys are actually going to be on the show and I was like oh oh no this is uh at first you know I'm not like expecting to win at Grammy but like this was the one

that we had won the previous year and I was like if there was ever a chance that we were going to get to in a row like this is it and at this point I'm starting to like be pretty nervous like when I should be nervous like oh my we're up for a Grammy you know what I was I was so nervous I was like I'm gonna have to thank Joseph Jonas on national television like one of the biggest music events in the world And I'm going to have to thank him. I don't know how I'm going to explain that to, like, people and to like my manager's and be like, listen, this is going to sound crazy. But I'm going to go ahead and thank Joseph Jonas for this.

And this is going to be weird. But so I was just like, whatever. I'm just going to throw it in there. Like if we happen to, you know, we happen to win. So this is also, my wife is, uh, is, was currently pregnant with our second baby. So she was, she was home. She didn't get to come to the show. So like, I'm there alone.

And I'm like, I'm very nervous at this point. You know, we're sitting there. Our words coming up. And I'm like, I can't believe this. like, I'm going to have to thank Joseph Joseph. My wife's at home. I hope I don't forget to thank her. That'd be horrible.

I was like, she's going to leave with a baby. She's not going to go. The house when you get back. Yeah, things get up. So I, anyways, you know, we obviously, we won. And I was so, like, I just figured I'd pop up there. Like, I got to say this. Like, a bet is a bet.

And I knew it would be a pretty great story for later. Because the things that had to happen to have that moment were, it was significant. You know, we got Dr. Phil there. probably had something to do with it. I don't know how, but yeah, that was one of the craziest stories that I will tell my kids and they'll think, wow, one of these days, like a long, long time ago, you were actually kind of, kind of cool.

You're a minute. Not only do you, like, win a Grammy, which is astronomically cool, right? Like, it's something that no one can even fathom of doing. But then you also have this story where I don't know how many people have been able to use a joke or, like, a bet with a Grammy speech because, like, you think it's like you're one and only chance. Let me thank everyone. Like we said on the podcast, Joseph Jonas came before.

God at that point, right? Like, don't people get up there and they're thinking, oh, first and foremost, I want to thank God and everyone who's gotten me here with Joseph Jonas, because he hit a seven iron closer to a pin on some drunk boy's trip with Dr. Phil. Like that, that is so, like, sadistic to me. I love it. That is such like a boys vet. It is. It was such a boys bet. It was so ridiculous. But it was one of those things, like, if there was one guy out there that was like, man, I just, I hate Dan and Shia. Like, I hate those guys. Like, there was one. guy watching and he's like, you know what, I respect that guy. Yeah.

They're like, you know what? I'm going to check out that music again. It's nice. Not now even more now that they know the story. Right. You're a man of integrity. Correct. You know, integrity.

I would go on, but that's all I can't think of anything else. It is just super relatable. Like that, something like that has happened to like everyone where they've had to like start a best man's speech or something by thinking of that because, oh, what's the story about that? It's like a year and a half ago we were shit faced that like, yeah. you know at Biner and like somebody hit one tight i didn't think he was going to do that and i think you are on just a bigger scale it happens all the time too like i mean there's been

stories i'm sure that we all have it's like you know you've been out on the course you make some ridiculous thing and it just it's so funny like in this world that all the things that had to come you know come together for that actually to be like on tv and like on this moment it's just hilarious to me so i love such a such a fake life moment for you but like you're also from a world in which you have, like Rigg said, you're closing on like 400 million downloads on multiple songs on Spotify. You did a song with Justin Bieber, your buddies with Jonas Brothers. Like, for those of us that don't know that world, like, how are you, how did it, how did you guys get to this point? Like Dan and Shea, you guys are this duo and now you're collaborating with

the biggest stars in the world. You are some of the biggest stars in the world. Like, what was that moment that like this rocket ship took off for you guys? Do you remember specifically? Like, how did you guys get to this like plateau right now. I passed out in like 2012 and like a week ago. I don't think I was like, oh, what does that happen? Yeah. It really feels like that, man. It's so crazy. I mean, in this world, you know, especially it's an interesting time in music and just in culture where everybody, I mean, like this, you're able to be, you know, you know everything immediately through social media through, you know, things like this. You're able to really connect with people in a way that you've never been able to connect with them. And that's really cool to me. But when we first started in 2012, I met

Dan at a house party. It was not like, you know, we weren't like put together. It wasn't, nothing of our career has ever been like, you have to do this and you have to like put this song. I get to do this. It's all been very much like, you know, this is what we want to do. And this is our vision. This is what, you know, the kind of music we want to write. And this is how we want to be, you know, perceived as, as really, truly who we are as artists. And I just, we met at a house party and started writing songs in 2012. And we just, you know, kind of took off from there of trying to, we had come to town, you know, being just writers, you know, trying to do that. And I was, I was doing the artist thing. And we just met and started writing a million songs. And we had met,

you know, with Warner Brothers and got signed and just, I don't know, things just kind of took off from there. And it was, it's so crazy to look back on because, you know, time is one of those things when you think about a memory from 30 years ago and you think about one from five years ago. They don't seem farther apart from one another. It's just kind of all there, you know, in your mind. And it's really strange, man. We've just, we've just, we've just, we've just, been very blessed to be able to, you know, kind of do this thing. I mean, we just dreamed of not having to work at Sonic and also, you know, love Sonic. It's a great place. I'd like to take this opportunity just to shout out. Give Sonic a free ad. They got those mixed drinks. Those things are

delicious. Oh, they have breakfast sandwiches. Put them on like Texas toast. Oh, dude. Sonic blasts. Sonic blast. I think a Sonic blast is up there with a blizzard. It is. I think it goes pound for pound, man. I have a son right by my house and we get a Reese's cup Sonic blast. Oh. And I'm like, I mean, the way that they get those bits of peanut butter cups inside there throughout the middle, satchez on top. Holy smokes.

I don't even know. That's something. They figured out something like those, the cookie dough as probably. Oh. Cookie dough is real solid. Like, I don't even know. You're going to have Trent pass out right now. I know.

We talk about, I have a fucking panicking. I've been trying to eat better because I've just gotten huge during quarantine. And I haven't been eating. ice cream, but boy, does a, yeah, does a Sonic Blast cookie dose? That's so good right now. You've been trying to eat better for what? Two days? What do you mean?

I think it's been three days, so give me a little credit. We should take like a 30-minute break and run down to Sonic and just just the truth that would be. Oh, yeah. You know, like whenever, because I've been trying to do the same. I've been trying to eat better in quarantine. Like I started out, you know, pretty good. Like I started on Peloton.

They're awesome. They had sent me this bike and I was like, this is, I was like, this is going to be the one. You know, like when you're trying to work out and you're like, you know, you're having those moments. Like for me, I have to have somebody like, this is what you eat. Eat three piece. You eat one piece of, you know, whatever it is. Like, you have to tell me exactly.

Because if not, I'm like, did you say that a Sonic Blass? That's okay. I can just kind of sneak that. I can sneak out. That's fine. That's fine. You know, that's my mentality. I'm like, I started doing this Peloton.

I did it for two days. I was absolutely killing it. I mean, it was absolutely amazing. And I'm sitting there, you know, on my bike, feeling like I'm sweating. so much. I even like went golfing those two days. Like I was feeling so healthy and active, you know, I was like, I am absolutely killing it. I've probably lost 25 pounds of this point. I don't even know. I haven't checked, but I probably if I could ballpark it is around there. But then I got like the third day. Like we went, I think it was like the first day that our

Mexican restaurant down the street was the back door. And I was like, ah, I would, I would do the whole time. But I just, I want to support local business. Yeah. So you walked down there to get your workout in. You know, I did. I did. I did. Yeah. I did. Yeah. I tried to walk down there and I was like, ah, it's a little far. So we just drove and we had a bunch of margaritas instead. But you know, honey, we got the stimulus check. It says on the check, we have to put it back into the economy. And that means we have to go to the Mexican place and order all the food. I don't know how to tell you. I don't know how to break this news to you. You know, we need to do our part. I'm not going to sit by Italy, you know, and not do my part.

That's giving back, man. That's giving back. It is. You know, I like to get back a little bit. Yeah, I'm going to get back on the palpit. I'm looking at it right now. Like it's, this is probably going to be the last time I see it. Dude, I bought a stationary bike that's not a Peloton. It's a much cheaper version.

And I was the same way. The first two days, I was like the Tour de France on that thing. I was right like crazy. And now it just holds my belts. I put my belts on it. And that's like my, or my towels dry on that thing.

I don't use that thing anymore. It's tough. It's tough to stick with it. It's also not fair because the people on there, like the trainers, they're so unbelievably fit. And I feel like they aren't just doing Peloton. Like they're out there really putting in the work, doing other things.

And they look unbelievable. And you're like, I'd love to do that, you know. And I have like, I was thinking about a joke. My friend Nate Wargetse, I was just to tell it. He was talking about like, he had never worked out. And he's like, let's do what the Navy SEALs do. You know, he jumps into that big workout and he looks at the before guy. Like the before guy is always amazing.

Like they don't have before people that are giving you these workouts. They're like, they're shredded. And they're looking into your soul. and they're like, you can do it. You are better. You are great. And I'm like, I am. You know, you're on there.

I am great. And then, like, as soon as you get off there, it's just, it's also, I, they have these special shoes for Peloton that you have to, like, I swear to you, like, the first time. Does any guys, have you ever ridden the Peloton with the shoe? Dude, it took me like 20 minutes to get out of it. I couldn't figure it out. Like, I'm in there, and I was like, oh, I guess, like, my wife went over. I was like, I don't, I guess I'll live here now.

I can't get it. Like, what do you mean? You can't get out of it? So you like, you put on the shoes and then you, you, like, clip in. And they have all these instructional videos of, like, how you clip in. Like, that's how advanced it is. Like, they have to have a whole video. Somebody made the video to clip into this thing.

So I couldn't figure out how to get out of it. I panicked. I mean, I'm up here just like, I guess I'll go on another ride. Like, that's how they get you. They just keep you in there. Like, you're going to be here a while. So I did that on a real bike where, so my brother got a Peloton. So I ride that from time to time.

Then I got a real bike. And it's the same thing where you clip in. and I was behind this car and I had to slow down and I was trying to get my foot out and the bike was starting to slow down and I couldn't get my foot out couldn't get my foot out so I'm just wiggling, wiggle and wiggling. I'm absolutely panic because as I lose speed now I'm trying to shove the thing to balance myself and then I fall right on my side and going like two miles an hour right behind this car. That's a big tree coming down too. Two like high school girls get out and they're like, are you okay? And I'm not. like scrambling to my feet. I look at him, I'm like, yeah, I'm okay. They need like an injection button. Oh, I know.

They just like sheds out. Like, that'd be pretty exciting too. Good thing. It wasn't near that, like, big volcano that they said is going to end the world. It's been getting all those earthquakes. If Lurch falls off his bike near that thing and what is it like Yellowstone National Park, the whole ride's going to explode. Yeah, it's like a triggers the geysers and all that.

You know that thing like has gotten like 35 earthquakes like this year or something like that? we just keep peppering that thing. That thing's bound to blow. Dude, they talk about it too. Like when it blows, the whole, like, North America, I think, just, like,

explodes into space and it's over. But I saw some scientist knows how to, like, put some, like, cooling nitrogen shit into it or something. I don't know. Yeah, we've been working on that. You are you in on that,

Che? I didn't tell you guys. I'm also a scientist. Things of, I'm pretty smart guy. If you ask me any question, I could probably figure it out. So,

they were like, hey, how are we going to get this? And I was like, I don't know, but I can look it up for you. And so they took me on as a consultant. You mentioned Nate Bargatsi,

which he's one of my favorites. I know he's one of Frankie's favorites. We talk about him all the time. He's a big golf guy, too. You ever played golf with him? We do, man. Me and Nate go,

we've been probably, I don't know, 15 or 20 times together now. We started, we became pretty good buddies, like, over the last, this last year.

But he's just like one of the sweetest guys in the world, but he's kind of like me like when I get into I only got into golf probably I had like a few lessons when I was a kid like probably 12 or 13 but I really got into golf like the last three and a half years and became like obsessed and I hate being bad at things so I knew that it was going to go one or one way or the other where I would just quit and never play golf again and swear it off or like you know play for 300 million hours and that's it went that way yeah but he's like that like he's very obsessed with everything about golf as I am but he's He's a little further long in his golf career. It's because he's super old. He's like probably 70 years old at this point. I'm not sure. Nate looks younger than me, which is strange because I think he's like 20 years older than I am.

I'm 28 and I think he's, I think he's 40. He just turned 40, I think. He looks my age. It's a real big bummer. He does look super young. When you watch him on the specials, you're like, you Google him and you can't believe that he's 40.

Yeah, it's insane. And people are like, if you told people I was 40, they're like, no, yeah. That's about right. you never want that answer when someone's like you know back and they're like how old do you think i am like girls and say that you like oh you don't look like a day over 25 people are like oh you don't like you look barely like you look barely 30 i'm like oh well that is that's a bummer because i'm not even 30 yet right that is a horrible it's a horrible thing but what i should say i look 10

yeah that's the problem that's why i'm growing this little whatever you want to call this because i'm sick and tired of people like telling me i was cute and that like i can barely get into into movies. I got IDed at a rated R movie last year. I'm 26 years old. Went with my girlfriend and go see just like, I don't know. What was like, was it it or something like that? It wasn't even like that bad of a movie. And it was just like rated R.

Are you sure you want to see this scary movie a little bit? The ladies like, the ladies like ID plays. It's like sorry, we need to see ID. She like pointed to a sign like anyone's 16 years and old, younger has to be ID. What did you think your girlfriend was your mom or something? I mean,

she looks just as young as me. so I guess like they just thought we were two little kids sneaking into a movie. I'm like, I'm 26 years old. I will, like, I could be your parent. Imagine when you guys travel together. People are like, where is your guardian for this? I think the person checking the tickets was like 17. So I was like I could like I could be your parent.

What are you talking about? It is weird. People are looking like I kind of have no idea how to even get close to guessing somebody's age now. Like whenever they're under like 25. Like I have no idea. It just looks so young to me now. Like I'm like, oh, what are you like?

Is this like, your fifth birthday. But then you look at pictures from back in the day. Like, if you look at like an MLB roster from like the 1970s or 60s, and some of these like 24, 25-year-old guys look like old ass and men. Like, I feel like as we've grown older, we've looked younger. That makes any sense. It is true.

It was strange. They're like smoking a cigar. They've been living hard lives. Yes. They've got like a beer in their hand. Like things haven't. We've been working in the factory for quite a few years now. Yeah.

No, it is very interesting. You said you started golfing like passionately like three years ago. So where's your game at right now? Like did it start out real rough? Like how was that process? Did you try and go to simulators or did you go straight out to like the golf course and embarrass yourself? Are you guys familiar with Tiger Woods? Yep.

It's pretty close to that. Okay. Okay. That's good. You know what boat is right now. It's a bit tracking his boat. I mean, it's like a dead. It's like a dead ringer.

Like people see me golf and they're like they look over like trying to get an autograph and they're like, Oh, you type, no, no, no, I thought it was you. But, no, I'm like a, I'm consistently shooting now. Like, I started off real bad. Like, I didn't even know how to really get into it. Like, I started going to talk off, which is a horrible place to, like, start. You know what I mean? Because they're just like, first of all, there's just so many people there.

And it's not just not the same at all. Like, I'd be in there, like, hitting a couple good shots being like, just wait until I get on the course. Like, I'm going to really tear things up. You know, and then I got on a real course and I was like, didn't I didn't tear things up at all. I was tearing things up, but not in the way that I wanted them to go. I was like leaving divots.

I didn't know how to like do anything. So I just kind of started piecing it together watching like a bunch of videos, like golf videos and like instructional videos. And yeah, so I just kind of went from there. And now I'm shooting pretty consistent like like low 80s, high 70s. Wow. Not a big deal. It's just like, I mean, this is the guy that Jonas brothers want as his, as their fourth.

Like I don't know if that's fair. Hey, dude, do you know that? They're trying to add you for their scramble against us. I'll do it. Any day, anytime, dude. I'll go right now. Take me a couple days, but I'll go now. I'll start now.

I'm so ready. I'll meet you. Well, what do you think is going to happen, right? So we just beat Kevin Kisner in a scramble. So now if we scramble versus the Jonas Brothers plus Jay Mooney, how do you like your chances? Because you played with all of them, so you know they're getting better than we do. Yeah, well, here's the thing, too.

I feel like, obviously, and this is, I was very impressed, by the way. I watched the whole thing on Instagram live, and I was back at my parents' house. They have, like, I mean, Walmart Connect, dial up internet, and it took me a while. So it was a commitment to watch you guys. That's huge. It was fantastic. From six hours to watch a two hour live. Yeah, I just saw it.

It just loaded. I just got to watch it. Briggs is still walking in that put on your phone. Yeah, he is. I just finished. Congrats. I just saw it now. But I, uh, yeah.

Scramble is, it's so interesting because I feel like it would be pretty evenly matched maybe with, with how I've seen, like how you guys play and how the Joe Bros play. Because I haven't played with Kevin, but I've only played with, I know Kevin well, but I've never played golf with him. He didn't, he wasn't there on that golf trip. So I haven't seen him play yet. But I know, like, Nick is pretty good. Like, he's pretty solid.

And so is Joe. And I feel like with a little bit of pressure, I feel like we could do pretty well. but I feel like it can go at it. Scramble is tough because it's like, you know, especially that's what it is and even playing. Yeah. And that's going to be a pretty even playing field. I mean, yeah.

So I mean, I'm in though. I'm the fourth. I've already bought shirts for it, but I don't. Hell yeah. I'm like, I'm like, look. Let's go. It's like you already on there. Are you like, do you have all PXGs?

I've seen like an Instagram with you and Nick, like rocking PXGs. Was that just on that trip or something? Yeah, well, that, that I don't actually have PXG's. but I was going to get fitted when we were there. We ended up having to leave early. We had to fly back to L.A. when I was going to get fitted. And I was like, well, it's no big deal because, you know,

our tour is going to come through Boston, which is where they have another, like, big facility, like a new facility. I was like, we're going to be there, like, pretty soon. And then, you know, obviously all this stuff happens. So not, not there. But I do, I play a tailor-made right now. And I really like, I really like my tailor-maids. But he has, Nick has PXGs.

And at the Scottsdale National, They're like rental clubs, our PXGs, which is like, stupid. Here's an 8,000 set of your dollars in golf clubs that you can. But, yeah, I like a, Nate, Marguess, he plays PXGs. He really likes him. I think he has the Gen 3s. Okay.

So, I mean, you, you obviously collaborated, you guys collaborated with Justin Bieber. Like, when you collaborate with him and put out a jam, do you guys instantly become, like, golfing buddies? Or is he, like, too big? I don't know that he golfs. I don't know that he golfs, but I've never went golfing with him. But yeah, we've known Justin for probably, gosh, I don't know. I guess we probably met him back in like 2012 or 13 when we first met.

And we've been kind of wanting to do something for a while, but it was just the timing didn't really, you know, make sense at the time. Like, we didn't want to just, you know, do a song with Justin Bieber because then it wouldn't really count. Like we wanted it to be the song to actually be a hit, you know, and actually be able to play. Boy, is it a hit? Yeah.

Bring something together, you know. like we didn't want to just be like please do a song with us like we wanted to actually have something to bring to the table and you know we were finally at that point where we were actual you know where we could have a big hit together and it wasn't like who in the world are these guys you know right but uh yeah it's it's fun though dude i mean those you know collaborating like justin is he's one of the biggest obviously i mean maybe at points is the biggest most recognizable name on the planet uh and it's really crazy like how many like we had shot the video somewhere in LA and there was people I think he probably left his house at like 5 30 in the

morning when we shot that video and there was like 50 paparazzi that showed up outside the gate like no one knew we were shooting this video they just that's their job to like be outside of his house and just follow him wherever he goes so it's I mean that would be just such a strange life but he you know all that being said for him you know being such in the spotlight he is such a sweet guy and I mean has really you know coming to his own especially in the last you know a few years is you know, overcome a lot and just being who he is and how famous he is. I'm blown away of, you know, of the man that he's become. I mean, it would be, I can't imagine not being able to go down to the Mexican restaurant and like, you know what I mean? Like, that's just, it's a different

stop your fucking face while you're on a diet. I just completely stuff myself until I pass out. But it's a, I don't know, it'd be a strange, strange world. I'm very thankful to be like just famous enough, you know, whereas like, yeah, you can do some cool things, but like, I can still, like go outside and you know and country fans you know everybody they're so respectful like i live here in nashville so like you know you go somewhere and you'll have people come out and they're super sweet and they're like hey i don't want to bother you guys you know but you know can we get a picture it's there everyone's so nice it's not like shay i'm walking in and like a blinding lights like please i'm trying to eat some k-sau or no it's like yeah i don't know if i can handle that either

like because i'm just a you know i'm a country boy from arkansas of small town arkansas like my town had 500 people in it. And my whole family still lives there. And like, I don't know, it's just kind of, it's two different worlds where I, I'm very thankful to do what I get to do. But I don't think that I could, you know, handle being that massively, massively famous.

You ever been to Table Rock Lake? In Branson. Yeah. I am going there soon, actually. Come on. Yeah. That's where my family used to vacate. I'm from St. Louis.

So we'd vacation every summer. I get jacked up. We do one week, July. Every year we go to Table Rock Lake. And now, obviously, down that area, they've got all of the new golf, like Tiger's new golf course and all these sick golf courses down there that didn't exist when I was a kid. Have you played any of those courses? I'm literally going down there like in a couple weeks because I was, we were like looking for somewhere to go that wasn't all the way down in Florida. Something like something's secluded and, you know, just a cool vibe.

And I was like, Branson's perfect. The older I get, the cool Branson is. Like when I was a kid, we went there all the time. And it was like, not Branson again. Like I've ridden Wildfire like 300. times. Like, what are we going to do? The older I get, I'm like, they got golf courses. They got, you know, they got all this stuff. Like, I didn't even know how cool Branson was. It's getting cooler as I get older. Like, we got these shows. Like, they brought in some

acrobats. I don't know if you guys have checked out. But they're doing well. Like, they're doing real well there. I only know Branson of from, she's out of my league when they're all wearing the Branson Branson Bunch shirts. Branson Boundtonson shirts. Oh, Branson Boundt. Branson Bunch. We should make Branson the next place. Like, I feel like I could really use a shot in the arm. Because it's kind of where those places, like, I mean, for some reason, Nashville has become, like, the place for, like, Bachelor parties, bachelor parties, like, it's all, like, Nashville, downtown. Like, I don't know how it becomes that.

Obviously, for obvious reasons of being the center of country music and other things, but we should, we should bring in Branson. I mean, you got, like, Seaside has become a real hot spot, you know. That's where everyone, I feel like in Nashville goes down to, like, Seaside, Florida. But I feel like Branson could really be the next hot spot. it happens. This is genius. We'll buy a little real estate in Branson and we'll just start pumping up Branson. Maybe we'll do the scramble in Branson. That's a great idea, actually. You know, bringing some fucking views on Branson. I mean, the Joe Brothers and Shay Mooney brings in,

makes it, you know, puts the asses in the seats. The Branson. We got to think of something. It's huge. It's massive. Oh, it's massive. It's huge. It was a pretty big, pretty big table. It was a pretty big thing. It was. You wouldn't believe this. You wouldn't believe this table. That's how it happened. It's a mythological story, but it's true. I feel like that would be Branson is just known enough to where like everyone's like, oh, of course I've heard of.

There's not going to be a single person in the United States you ask and say like, oh, you've been done to Branson. They're not going to be like, what? I've never heard of it at least, even if they haven't been there. They're going to have never been there, but heard of it. That's like the place. Yes. That's what Branson is.

And you said, Riggs, you're from, you're from St. Louis, you said. Yeah, like St. Charles, Missouri, so it's like 30 minutes west of St. Louis. I went to St. Louis quite a bit when I was growing up because I'm a huge Cardinals fan. So growing up, that was in Arkansas, you had to like pick your sports, like any professional sport. We didn't have any. We had the Razorbacks, which I'm a huge Razorback fan.

But it was like, you have to pick. So I just, I'm a Steelers fan and a Cardinals fan. And that's just the way it is. What was the deciding factor in those two? I just like their colors were pretty good. I just thought they were doing well. whatever it takes, man.

Our boss, Dave Portnoy, I was a Vikings fan when he was a child because he thought he could eat the Vikings helmet because they looked like candy. That's pretty solid. My best friend,

obviously now a Patriot fan. My friend Michael, he was from growing up. They had moved there. I think his dad was from Pittsburgh. And so like my kind of introduction to like really, really getting into sports

at a really young age was watching the Steelers at their house. And I just, you know, when you're at someone's house and you're five, you're not going to root against the other team

when the dad is, like sit there like let's go yeah you're like i think i'll go for this team you know yeah so that was kind of of my start of it and then i actually ended up living in pittsburgh for like a year and a half um my sister went to college up there and i went to school up there for a second oh i did like this nine-month program up there and i actually lived probably um like a mile and a half away from where day because dan grew up and so i lived like a mile and a half away from where he grew up but he wasn't living there at the time he was in Nashville so that was kind of like a crazy wow a little thing. So I kind of was even more

solidified in kind of the Pittsburgh world. So that's another second home there. Most surprising fact about Pittsburgh after being there one time, bridges everywhere. I never seen more bridges my entire life. Yeah. They're just like you can't, you got to go over like 11 bridges to get, you know,

five, like, you take bridges to like get to bridges. Like, you're like, yeah, you can go down this bridge. You're going to take, have you been to bridge bridge? That's that's the bridge you got to take. Remember we had a debate on this show about Pittsburgh and bridges and we were talking about whether or not you could drive all the Pittsburgh bridges in one day and I think the answer is no because there's like a million bridges I think it's

known isn't it known as the city of bridges yes okay I wasn't sure if I made that up just that sounds because I was going to say it but you're like you're famous enough that if you say something knows I think you're stupid if I say I'm just beaten down so I was going to just start that up before yeah I feel I feel like you can say things that's that's one of my favorite things to do actually is like when someone says like oh yeah have you been like to this place you're like oh yeah that's like rainbow capital of the world like you know you're not going to like no one's really like look that i'm like they're going to be like oh wow i had no idea like of course he wouldn't just say that would he that's that's rainbow capital of the world i will say that people say

like minnesota is like the land of 10,000 lakes or whatever but i feel like a lot of times when people go there like i didn't really see that many it just like seemed pretty normal whereas pittsburgh i came away it was like dude did you see how many bridges that were back Well, we saw in baseball stadium, all you can see is bridges. Like from where we sat, it was like there was like eight bridges over there. And that's all the-I-Go-I-Go-I-Goole it, 4466 bridges. It's a lot of bridges. Yeah, no way you get that done in a day.

No, sure. I like going on the bridges or, like, building the bridges. Like, there's no way you can build that many bridges. You can't build 464 bridges. Technology is pretty good these days. Try to Google that one, smart-ass. If you gave me the rest of my life, I would not be able to figure out how to have built a single bridge.

There's no, no. If you just said build a bridge, like, and you had to figure out and get all the tools together, I don't know if I could ever build a bridge successfully. Are you allowed to Google it? Are you allowed to Google and YouTube it? Yes. I see, I feel like, here's the thing. I would just dump concrete.

There needs to be a documentary on bridge makers back in the day, because if you were seeing those old pictures, like, I mean, even like, you know, the Golden Gate Bridge and always play, these guys are insane. Like, they're crazy people. They're something they're eating. I used to see that picture, be like, oh, that's a cool picture. These guys are, like, sitting on this beam. We're like 400 feet in the air eating a sandwich.

Like, like, things are chill. Like, I get scared on like sky bridges across malls, you know? I'm like, there's no way I could do that. Like, they're just sitting up there, like, hanging out. Like, this is what we do. Did you throw my sandwich up? I'm up here, like 400 feet in the air. Yeah, back then, like, safety is, like now safety is everything.

If you have to be up the code, it has to be the right spec, all that. Back then they were just like build a bridge. Do it. Go build us a bridge. because we need one to get across the wall. Guess what year construction started on the Brooklyn Bridge? 12th, just year 12. 12.

I like that. Dude, it's probably so much earlier than we think. I'm going to take a guess. Take a stab. It would be so wrong. I'm going to say 1842. I was going to say 18.

That's pretty good. I'm going to say 1798. Wow, no chance. Way off. That's deep. That's deep. 1798. George Washington was still running around at 1798.

Fuck, it didn't even invent paper by that. I didn't even... We're not going to get... We can't guess shame. You can't do it. Well, 1895. All right. Well, I thought it's going to be a big thing, but you guys undershot it.

Now it doesn't sound that crazy. Was it 19-19-69. Wow. I was close. You guys want a more... That's pretty good. I was just going extreme. I panning.

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I should have just hit you with the date. I can't... There's also, yeah, you should have just like done that. Now, like, you embarrass me from my friends, Regs, I thought things were going on. No, I just, I'm just,

Now I don't feel like my number was as crazy as I thought it was. You guys were the 1700s. I thought you were going to blow us away. I'm like, guys, they built it like six years ago. Oh, that bridge got it. Speaking of the 1700s.

Pablo, I want to say one thing before you go. Pablo Picasso died in 1973. Crazy. Think about that. Not that impressed by that. No, that's not that impressive.

I barely remember the 70s. 1973. Everybody thinks, at least me, Pablo Picasso, I thought he died in like the 1500. It's true. Are you talking about the painter?

Yes. Okay, at first I didn't hear you skipped a little bit and I was like, I thought you were talking about Pablo Escobar. I was like, wow, I didn't even. Yeah. So he's still around. Frank, you go ahead. My fact wasn't as good.

No, you're horrible. Here's a couple. Here's a couple things to think about. In the 1700s, our founding fathers must have had like English accents, correct? It's actually, yeah, it's quite right. I believe. Yeah. You don't think of George Washington walking around asking for tea

and shit. It's actually odd to put him in that, like, paint him in that picture. Wow. Okay. That is kind of weird to think about it. Right? You think of him being like, I'm George Washington. This is America. This is America? It's America. I tried to do it. I bet. Here's a little fact for you. It's because, you know, I've never done a guest fact, but we'll see if Shay likes this one. In the old West, a 45 cartridge for a six gun cost 12 cents. So did a glass of whiskey. So if a cow ham. was low on cash, he would often give the bartender a cartridge in exchange for a drink, hence the term, a shot of whiskey.

Wow. What do you think about that? You lost me at the first part. I didn't understand when the first couple of words. Oh, they're getting into the, they're getting into like, I guess the 45 cartridge, I guess a gun, like a 45. Gotcha. A cartridge for a gun costs 12 cents and so did a glass of whiskey.

So it was actually common place to be able to swap out your cartridge for a drink when you didn't have any money on you, so they'd say, give me a shot. You know, that's a shot of whiskey. It's believable. I like that. You like that fact? I did like that one. I didn't think that was going to be true at all. I love that.

Some aren't true. Well, that's not the facts. No, we don't know. There's no, correct. There's zero basis for that being true. It's just Frankie find stuff that's interesting and regurgitates it. But I will say, I'm suspicious because I don't think you have a great track record of your facts being factual when you do origins.

stories. Right. I try and do all origin stories. Right. So you're saying it's better when he just pass along a story, so to speak, that really has no factual background. No, I'm trying to think.

Some of them have been good when they're like, when they're not necessarily like frankly stories. When they come out of left field, Shay, let me tell you this one. Okay. Before Wrigley Field was built, there was another stadium. I should remember the stadium to make this fact better.

But whatever the name of the stadium was before Wrigley Field, beyond the left field wall, they had a like one of those mental institution in a sane asylum and people in the outfield would actually hear people screaming beyond the left field wall so when something would come out of like left field they'd be like oh it's out of left field craziness something out of the fucking loop out of left field that makes so much sense that one is true that one i've that's 100% true yes i mean it sounds a little out of left field but yeah there you go it is kind of weird how you there's like all these sayings that you say and they you have no idea where they come from and you find out

you're like that's I didn't even sound like I didn't like that saying anymore what a dumb thing to say every time you say out of left field now you're going to think of these crazy people screaming inside in asylum and like the early 1900s let me out it's like oh shit like I don't even know what that means there I feel like there's uh the older I've gotten like I mean high school was as much as education I went right into music you know they're like yeah we could tell oh we'd it. But I feel like that is one of those things like when you learn these big words. Like I'll try to really hold on to them and use them like later. Like I'll hear somebody real smart use it. And I'm like, that's going to be a good one for later. And I'll just save it. I don't know what it means,

but I know how to use it? I feel like, you know what I mean. How many words do you think that you have in your arsenal that you have no clue what they mean? But you're like, yeah, you know, this is, I can't even think of one right now. That's how dumb I am. I have no idea what you use words. I think I use juxtaposition incorrectly. And that felt like, I think I know what it means, but I think I just get out of context. That's a good one. That's a great one. I think that's a little, it's a bit of a juxtaposition.

And then you just like hope that everyone else agree. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody else, nobody else really knows what it means either. They'll be like, yeah, it's, it's pretty, it's just, it's real. Feel free. You can use that one if you want in the future. I am going to, I'm going to use that.

One time on the radio, I, I didn't know that the word appalling have negative. connotation. I thought it just meant like surprising. And one time on the radio, I was describing something that was clearly a positive thing. And I was like, yeah, it was just appalling. And everyone was like, that's a wrong way of brain. Like, why didn't you think? I feel like, because I, I love using like, ridiculous words, you know, to describe like it was, you know, amazing, you know, like, I'll, I'll be like, that was, that's ridiculous as a good thing. Like, that's ridiculous. Yeah. There's other ones that I use of like, that's disgusting. I'll say that sometimes of how good it is.

Like, I'm disgusted. That's disgusting. It's gross. How much fun we're having right now. Yeah, that's gross. Yeah. It is gross. Horrible.

Yeah. It's nasty. I don't know if nasty is one, but nausey. We would say nasty and hockey things. Very dirty or some negative terms all the time. I've been saying dirty a lot. I used the word scintillating in a conversation. And I don't think I don't think it was correct at all.

Well, just scintillating actually came from, because I looked that up one time. and there was, there was, like, cents, just like dollars or whatever. And there was a lady, I'm making this all up. I don't have a, there's nothing. Yeah, I know, I was like, do it a fucking prank you. Like, have you heard of, like, there's like, there's centimeters and centipedes? They were late, they were late all the time. We're so, we're so gracious.

We were just going to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. It means sparkling or shining. And I walked upon this person's backyard recently. And the pool was like shining. And I was like, your pool is scintillating. Wow. They were like, holy shit.

I didn't know if that was correct. And it ended up being correct. Is that close to the word titillating? Because I don't know what that word is. I don't know. It's probably something real bad. It probably means something so grotesque. That means that you hate Nick Jonas and that all the tablets need to write another headline.

Yeah. She says titillating. People were like, I don't know what that means, but it doesn't sound good. I don't know. We should check it out. Oh, man. Oh, this is been a blast. By the way, the Taylor Swift photo right behind you is just, it's, it's, it's, it's disgusting. Not Taylor Swift.

Not Taylor Swift. Me? Who is? I can't see it. Oh, wait, on. So it's, who is that? Yeah, let me guess. Hold on.

Okay. If it's, or is it an old picture? No. It's not an old picture. Let me tell you, let me give you this. I'll give you some time to think. I don't know, I don't know who was either, but my roommate is a big fan of, her and her band. So he put it up. Is it Steve Nix? No. No. Okay. Some misery business.

Oh, yeah. He, he, he didn't, that didn't help. Haley Williams, Taramore. Oh, hey, well, okay, gotcha, gotcha. I thought the band name was, was, was that. So yeah, that's like Haley Williams told to me by my roommate, because I don't really know. And what's the one on your left? Well, Les Zeppelin. That's the Jonas Brothers. Yeah. You guys know who that is? Can you see who that is? I don't know. Maybe not. I can't. A little wayne. That's a little way. And then we got Kurt Cobain and then the Beatles and Muhammad Ali, but they fell on the ground.

Kurt Cobain falls off my wall constantly. I think it's haunted. I also love looking at the color in Trentzrow. Just an amazing amount of black and white everywhere. I thought he was in black and white for happiness. You're coming on work or? You know he's from the 1860s, right? He actually has an English accent. He does. He came over here.

He's going to fall. It's better than before because we didn't have anything on the. walls and it looked like an insane asylum. So at least it's a little bit better than that. Are you guys at your house, by the way? Like, are you at your respective residence? I'm on my family's house and we have an air conditioning that goes into the window. And I want to let you all know how much I like doing this podcast that I've been sitting inside. He's been sweating for a 99 degree room with no, because when you turn it on the air and these types of air conditioning, it's like, it's crazy. So that's what I've been doing just for you guys

and for the audio. Yeah, I'm in New York City in a tiny Manhattan apartment. But I We have air conditioning, actually, so it's been kind of nice. That's pretty solid. What about the rest of you guys? Where do you guys? Riggs, where do you live? I'm in Pinehurst, North Carolina. Okay.

I've been here for three months. I originally, I live in Manhattan with those guys, but I got the hell out. Instead, I'm going to go to Pioneer's for a little bit and see what happens three months ago, and I've been here ever since. Pinehurst looks unbelievable. Like, I've never played there before, but it looks like a lot. The lightful. The best part of it's probably the cradle. The minehole track they built two or three years ago.

It's got music and the speakers and the trees. It's got like pine cone, which is a little bar. And you just go play barefoot out there. You loop it around. It takes like an hour to play it. You just go, go, go and keep playing. It's awesome. Are you a member there?

Honorary. Unofficial, yeah. Solid. Honorary. Yeah, because we've actually been looking, we were actually going to go on a little, actually me and Nate. And this guy, do you, are you familiar with John Ogenstein? I know that name.

He's a, he was like, he's a very good golfers. He plays for Vanderbilt right now. but he was actually up for the, what was the award that they gave out last night? The, for college. It's basically the Heisman of golf. Hogan,

the Hogan. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was, he was like in the top three finals of that, but he's gonna be one of those. He's, he's a stick, dude. He's, he's crazy good. It's devastating going to golf with him because any time that you go golf with someone

just so much better than you, it's just kind of like, yeah, I can probably do that as well. But I'm gonna play from the, I'm gonna play from the blues instead of, 500 feet, you know, behind those. But he always plays from the, he's insanely good. It's like, I feel like when I'm watching him, I'm watching like he's going to be like,

you know, the Justin Thomas's of the world. Like, right. I feel like he's going to be a big star one day. But we've been looking at going on a golf trip and that would actually be a pretty cool place to go. Dude, you should do pioneers. They've got, so they redid two, a couple years ago. They redid the number four course.

So obviously number two is the big ticket item, but number four. Wars really, really good too now. These guys have all seen it. And then they added the cradle, and then they've got, you know, seven other courses beyond that. So it's like all the options are amazing. How many courses do they have there?

They have nine and a half courses, including the cradle. That's a lot of courses. That's like one less than ten. That's like a lot of it. That's right. And I can tell that education paid off. You nailed that.

But there's Tobacco Road, which is insane golf course. We all have played as well as like 25 minutes away. There's mid pines, Pine needles, which are a couple Donald Ross courses that are like 10 minutes away. So the golf here is amazing. That's why I've been here for three months. That's amazing.

I see it. I see, I mean, I watch the Daily Nine. I've been doing my own Daily Nine. Not with like golf, but I do that with beer. It's pretty close to the same. But. Appreciate that. I've been doing that as well.

It turns into not Daily Nine sometimes, but it's like. Daily wine. Oh. Daily wine. It's pretty solid. I, by the way, I feel like you guys should rename your podcast. Since there's four of you could be a quality. quadcast and that's a whole new like genre you know what I mean

quadcast yeah okay we're getting into the puns I like four play quadcast I like yeah yeah playing quadcast one of the dumber things that I thought about but I thought about it last night like you know those things that you're just like I should probably tell them and like I should put I probably shouldn't tell them that but I thought about it like a significant amount of time I was like quadcast is pretty good what else you're your jokes out. I mean, usually I think you guys come up with.

This is the laugh factory. This is the laugh factory where I get to like, you know, test out. Yeah. My jokes. Not all of them land, you know. Most don't land. That's right. That's why it's where you test them.

That's fine. Come on and test them out whenever the hell you want. Anytime you want. I'm going to test him out all the time. And we'll be honest with you. We don't, you know, we do have one, one guy we work with John Fowlerberg is the biggest like courtesy laugh for a ball time. So he's a great guy to test stuff out with because he'll just give it to you.

Those guys are the worst. Not saying he's the worst, but like, whenever you, I just want to say that guy's the worst. That's what I'm trying to say. I hate that guy. Never met him. Don't want to. We'll never meet him.

We will try to bring him to you and you will refuse to meet him. You know I'm a man of integrity. I've proved it once. I'll prove it again. Never going to meet this guy. Won't even talk to him. Won't see him. If he comes on here, I'll close my eyes.

I'll do it. But the, I feel like that. That's, those, uh, whenever you're trying to tell a joke, like, my, my wife is not a courtesy lapper at all. Like, if I tell a joke and it's not funny, she won't say anything. She'll just let it go. But I have, like, there's like a couple of those guys that'll be around, you know, like, you, you find yourself in these big grips and these guys, like, they think you, they want you to laugh at like everything. You're like, oh, and you're just like, Carl, why are you even, you know, here? We didn't invite you. And so he'll be there,

some guy. And they just, like, laugh at every single thing you say. And like, you start to kind of, start to try to push the limits, you know, we're like really giving them some, like, how stupid other joke can I say right now? Degrade stuff. You got, you guys seen, you know, monkeys? Those are, those will get, you know, get you. And they're like, oh, that's fantastic.

You're testing his integrity right there. He tests in his integrity, you know. There's always that one guy in there. He'll do anything to be in the group. You know what I mean? He's like, I'm willing to do it like, no, anything. I'll do anything to be friends with you guys. It's totally fine.

Well, look, we got to set up the match. with the Joe Bros. You're there fourth. We got to think of a bet because we can't think of anything. What is as embarrassing for us that would be even equally? Like we can't get to any stage

like the Grammys. We got to rename our podcast, the Quadcast. That would be a pretty horrible bet because that'd be such a horrible name, I think. Now that I've actually said it out loud. It doesn't have that same kind of shower mind thought that I had

when I was saying that joke in my head. Boy, was that funny in the show? It just nailed every time. Yeah. That does happen to me. Is that ever happened to you guys where you're like, I'm sure you kind of like, you brainstorm ideas and like things to talk about and you write it down in your phone. Like we do that as songwriters. We'll go and we'll like write things down in our phone.

I'll go on it late night and being like, you know, write down these ideas. And then the next day I'll be looking through. Like you guys got any ideas and I'm looking through there. And I'm like, nope. No, I do not. No. What are scrolling through? I don't know, I don't know, virus or something.

I'm going to go out of here. Twitter. I'm looking at Twitter. I feel like some people, they write down those ideas, and then they do write those songs, and they get put out, and they shouldn't have done that at all. Like, I know where you got that idea, and it should have stopped there. Yeah, we got to think of a bet. I don't know what it should be.

Well, your kid's got to be screaming by this point. You said 20 minutes. He moved out. Yeah. Did you put a muzzle off? He's gone over there. We're going to have to let him go. This is the time of your life that you have to be like.

He's waiting at the train station right now. He's got his bags packed. He's got one-way ticket to Branson. We've got to go there and get him. He's gone. I heard that's a hot spot, though. I heard it's coming up. It will be.

I'll probably be going there pretty soon. I'll pick him up there. Oh, shit. All right. Come up with a bet. Seriously. We've got to set up this match. Set it out.

We have to make. Blow up Branson. Blow up Branson. Well, maybe we shouldn't do this. Don't know. No. No. I don't think we should do that at all.

Just the worst tagline. That's horrible. Horrible. We get on the planes. We get on the planes just like instead of Branson baths, blow up Branson. We're all sitting there and yellow t-shirts. It's on T-shirts. Yeah, we're going to workshop that.

We'll workshop. That's a shower shop. That should have stayed. Should have been. Well, I'm looking at my battery. My battery, this is actually my wife's computer and I don't have a charge rate. I'm at 2%. All right.

We can wrap it. Perfect. That's a good way to wrap it up. We appreciate it. This was amazing. I can't believe you're like super famous. You're normal as hell. Just one of the boys now.

I think that people are still trying to figure it out every time. Like you, they could have picked somebody else, I feel like. But, dude, thank you guys. Seriously, this was a blast. And I think, I think we should probably just be friends or whatever. Yeah. Totally. We're friends.

We're friends now. We are friends. Except for that other guy. I won't, yeah, I won't even. Finalberg. Finalberg's out. He's done. He's going to be ralb to, I think.

I'm sorry, man. I guarantee he's a big Dan and Chafin. Like, I know he is. You always know the time. You know. He thinks when the laugh is a favor. He's giving you the laugh to keep you going. And then reverse, you don't want to see him because of the free laugh.

So never. You're going to close your eyes when he's, when he's going to be so mad at us. Wait, the laugh thing? I got to stop the laugh thing. He's going to be like, it's going to be, it's going to ruin his day, guys. Every time he laughs, he's going to think about that now. Like, was that genuine? He's going to start like, there's going to be like a hitch in his life.

He's like, ha-ha. You like retweets our good shows too. He's great. And he's just going to be like, man, what happened on that show? What is a great guy? Why does he hate me now? And now, you know, I've changed my stance on him. I like him, but I have to stand by this one.

Okay. I can't wait for that four-play promo tomorrow that says you are titillating. I'm still trying to figure out what that means. Exactly. You and the Faddleberg and the Jonas brothers are on your titillating list. A rousing mild sexual excitement or interest. That works. That works.

That's good. The Jonas brothers definitely are titillating. Oh, for sure. For sure. Well, thanks for coming on, bro. We really appreciate it. And I can't wait to hit the links with you. All right.

Well, thanks soon. Y'all be safe. Look forward to you too. All right. Thank you. Thanks, man. What did you guys say? We love you, too.

See you guys.